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Overnight Open Thread (6-28-2015)
Quote of the Day I - Our New Reality
Exchanges established by the federal government are exchanges established by the state. Rachel Dolezal is black. Iran will honor an agreement not to develop nuclear weapons. ISIS is a JV team. There's an epidemic of sexual assaults on college campuses. Michael Brown had his hands up and pleaded "don't shoot." Caitlyn Jenner is a woman. Obamacare is working. 2+2 doesn't necessarily equal 4. The polar ice caps are disappearing. The IRS is doing a decent job. The border is secure.We've ended two wars responsibly. Hillary Clinton turned over all work-related e-mails. An $18,200,000,000,000 debt can grow without mention. People who burn down buildings and overturn cars aren't thugs. The OPM hack is manageable. We've reset relations with Russia. Entitlement reform can be kicked down the road. We're more respected around the world.
-- Peter Kirsanow in Reality Is Now Discretionary
Quote of the Day II - dar al Gay Edition
Two plus two equals five. A severed head plus "Allahu Akbar!" equals "Nothing to do with Islam." Network screenings of Gone With The Wind plus Uncle Ben's rice equals blatant incitement to mass murder. A nice chichi gay couple at 27 Elm Street and a firebreathing imam and his four child brides at 29 Elm Street equals the social harmony of a multiculti utopia.Where is this story headed? The warriors of the caliphate divide the planet into the dar al Islam and the dar al harb - the house of war. In reality, it's a struggle between the dar al Islam and the dar al Gay: Liberty in the fin de civilisation west means sexual liberty and nothing else - which is why one consequence of yesterday's decision is that freedom of expression and freedom of religion will increasingly be confined to what Justice Alito called the deepest recesses of your home.
-- Mark Steyn
After all, the greengrocer was a threat to the system not because of any physical or actual power he had, but because his action went beyond itself, because it illuminated its surroundings and, of course, because of the incalculable consequences of that illumination. In the post-totalitarian system, therefore, living within the truth has more than a mere existential dimension (returning humanity to its inherent nature), or a noetic dimension (revealing reality as it is), or a moral dimension (setting an example for others). It also has an unambiguous political dimension. If the main pillar of the system is living a lie, then it is not surprising that the fundamental threat to it is living the truth. This is why it must be suppressed more severely than anything else.In the post-totalitarian system, truth in the widest sense of the word has a very special import, one unknown in other contexts. In this system, truth plays a far greater (and, above all, a far different) role as a factor of power, or as an outright political force.
-- Vaclav Havel in the Power of the Powerless
Meanwhile the Gleischaltung immediately rolls on:
Politico Mag Writer Says 'It's Time to Legalize Polygamy.'
Time Writer: Now's the Time To End Tax Exemptions for Religious Institutions
Politico Writer Says Gay Marriage is Superior to Regular Marriage
Dailybeast Writer: Did The Four Dissenting Justices In Gay Marriage Case Just Suggest Treason?
Andy McCarthy: It's Time To Give Up on the Supreme Court as a Court
Here former federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy argues that we should just admit that the Supreme Court has now become a supra-legislature and treat it as such.
Did you notice that there was not an iota of speculation about how the four Progressive justices would vote?There was never a shadow of a doubt. In the plethora of opinions generated by these three cases, there is not a single one authored by Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Elena Kagan, or Sonia Sotomayor. There was no need. They are the Left's voting bloc. There was a better chance that the sun would not rise this morning than that any of them would wander off the reservation.
...And it is not so much that they move in lockstep. It is that no one expects them to do anything but move in lockstep - not their fellow justices, not the political branches, and certainly not the commentariat, right or left.
It is simply accepted that these justices are not there to judge. They are there to vote. They get to the desired outcome the same way disparate-impact voodoo always manages to get to discrimination: Start at the end and work backwards. Guiding precedents are for the quaint business of administering justice. In the social justice business, the road never before traveled will do if one less traveled is unavailable. But there's a problem. Once it has become a given that a critical mass of the Supreme Court is no longer expected, much less obliged, to do law, then the Court is no longer a legal institution. It is a political institution.
So forget Constitutional strict constructionalism and all that and simply strive to get conservative electors into our third legislative body to start voting against the progressive bloc.
John Hinderaker of Power Line suggests that if we're now in a post-constitutional era, the conservative justices should start discovering new 'fundamental rights' more to our side's liking:
For example, how about a "fundamental right" not to pay income taxes in a percentage exceeding that which other Americans are charged? Why isn't the progressive income tax a violation of the equal protection clause? That is a much stronger argument than the one the Court has just accepted on gay marriage. Or, how about a theory that the Internal Revenue Service is violating Americans' right of privacy-that same right of privacy that the Court found among the emanations and penumbras of the Constitution's actual provisions-in seeking extensive information about taxpayers' finances?Or how about a fundamental right to affordable energy-or, rather, to be free of government policies that unreasonably raise the cost of energy? If the Supreme Court discovered such a right, the EPA's anti-coal regulations would be unconstitutional. You could write a decision in support of such a "fundamental right" that would be at least as persuasive as Justice Kennedy's "fortune cookie" travesty. What is more fundamental than heating your home and driving your car? To paraphrase Justice Kennedy, what if a voice cries out in the night, saying, "Honey! Can you turn the heat up?"
If conservatives are willing to abandon the archaic notion that the Supreme Court is a court and not a super-legislature, there is no telling what conservative policies might be advanced.
Post-Obergefell, Dissent Is Now The Highest Form Of Bigotry
And must be suppressed.
I thought about this in the aftermath of the Supreme Court's decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, especially when a friend alerted me that the editors of The Patriot-News of Harrisburg, PA, had declared, within minutes of the announcement of the decision: "As a result of Friday's ruling, PennLive/The Patriot-News will no longer accept, nor will it print, op-Eds and letters to the editor in opposition to same-sex marriage."In a tweet later in the morning, the paper's Editorial and Opinions Editor John L. Micek (until recently a state capitol reporter-yikes!) explained himself curtly: "This is not hard: We would not print racist, sexist or anti-Semitic letters. To that, we add homophobic ones. Pretty simple."
...This is why it was important for the LGBT movement that same-sex marriage be affirmed by the high court rather than piecemeal in the states: Statutes are contingent and temporary, dependent on shifting allegiances and majorities; the Supreme Court is permanent, accountable to no one. The people and our elected representatives are subjective and unreliable; the Supreme Court is objective and irrefutable.
The Patriot-News isn't censoring bigotry. If it were, it would have been rejecting anti-same-sex marriage letters yesterday as well as today. It is censoring dissent-dissent from the new orthodoxy proclaimed by our secular Magisterium, dissent from the prevailing viewpoint of our oligarchs, dissent from the state. And we are to conform ourselves to this orthodoxy not because it is good, but because the state so ordains it.
The Patriot-News later backed off a bit and said that they will allow letters with wrong-think about gay marriage for a limited amount of time.
The 20 Hottest Conservative Women In The New Media for 2015
Grexit Coming: Greek Banks, Stock Market Closed Tomorrow, Capital Controls Imposed
The Greek government called for a referendum on July 5th on whether to accept the ECB bailout terms or leave the Euro. But events may be already overtaking their plans.
Greece has moved to close its banks and impose capital controls to prevent financial chaos following the breakdown of bailout talks with its international creditors. The dramatic move on Sunday night came after the European Central Bank announced it would freeze the amount of emergency loans it supplied to keep the Greek banking system afloat.Officials said the bank closure would last for several days and would be accompanied by limits yet to be announced on bank transfers abroad and withdrawals from cash machines. The cashing of cheques would be halted and fixed term deposits would be locked down. The Athens stock exchange was also set to be closed.
WWII Weapons In The Syrian Civil War
Each weapon is vignetted with a representative still image, followed by still photos and video footage of the actual weapon(s) in question being used in the conflict. Notable weapons include a chromed or nickeled Beretta 38 submachine gun, a cache of MAS 36 rifles, what appears to be a rearsenaled or civilian production M1 Garand, a PTRS-41 14.5x114mm anti-materiel rifle, and of course several of the StG-44s captured from a Syrian government stockpile by rebel fighters.
What It's Like to Be in the Blue Man Group
In the smaller shows there is typically seven full time guys. In the bigger shows, like Vegas, there are upwards of nine guys full time. The reason is because we do so many shows. In New York, the typical Broadway run is eight shows a week, and we will often do much more than that. On a slow week we'll do 12, and on a high week we can do upwards of 20. So we need those extra guys to do those shows. This is also another reason why guys stick around for so long, because there is less of a grind that way. There will be slow weeks and you can take leaves of absence to do other artworks. Its just a much more stable, supportive environment that way. And for a theater gig. it was 12 years with 401K, full benefits for me, my wife, and my kid, a really stable setup.
So immediately after the show, we go and clean up a little bit. And this has been a really important part of the show since the beginning, we go and meet the audience as they're leaving the theater. That's a really special part of the show too, or one that I've always enjoyed because you can shed the character slightly. We always talk about that it's 80 percent Blue Man and 20 percent just yourself at that point. So if someone comes to you and says, 'That show meant so much to me,' you can very quietly say, 'Thanks a lot.' We're not the hardcore character in that moment even though we're still in make up.
The point of that part is so that the person right next to you can have that connection, but the person across the room still just sees a Blue Man. ...So that's about 15-20 minutes. Then we go downstairs, and as we're getting out of makeup, in this other important Blue Man tradition, we have about a 20 minute conversation with the stage manager of the night and the band. We talk about all these different parts of the show. And this is why, again, that guys can stay in it for so long, because it is always, always, always considered a work in progress. There's always stuff that can be done better. Just because there's a guy who's been doing it for 12 or 15 or 16 years, doesn't give them any kind of 'Get Out of Jail Free' card. We're working on stuff day-to-day just as much as trainees are basically.
Early 80s Comedies: Cocaine Fueled Cinematic Insanity
DC Cab (1983)
When Mr. T is the most subtle and nuanced character in your film, you know there's issues. You can't tell me Gary Busey isn't on near-lethal levels of coke in this movie; it's almost scary to watch. Also, take note of the mad inclination of all the male characters to start randomly dry humping.
Sad News at Casa Maetenloch
On Friday we had to put one of our cats to sleep due at aggressive liver cancer. We had Kitty for 9 years but he was already 5 to 8 years old when we rescued him from living (unhappily) under a neighbor's back porch so he was an old cat. He had a very happy life during that time and even his final hours with us in the garden were as happy as they could be given his condition.
After we had had him for a while Mrs. Maetenloch demanded that he be given a real, official name so I dubbed him Kittybot Cougar Unit12. She was not exactly pleased with this. So he became known as Kitty to friends and family and Cougar to outsiders.
He was a good-natured cat who truly loved to be with us and people in general. He was happiest just being wherever humans were and would follow us from room to room to hang out. In fact many an ONT was created with Kitty sleeping at the base of my desk. From waiting in the bathroom in the morning while we got ready for work to greeting us at door when we got home to sleeping in our bed at night, he was a constant happy presence in our lives for nine years. And now we have a Kitty-sized hole in our lives.
RIP Kitty, a good loving cat.
Weekly Commenter Standings
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Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 28, 2015 11:10 PM (p7dd/)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:10 PM (Xehhp)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 28, 2015 11:10 PM (p7dd/)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:11 PM (EzgxV)
The worst thing about pets is that their stay is way too short
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:12 PM (Xehhp)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 28, 2015 11:14 PM (0O7c5)
*Clinks glass to monitor frame* Here's to Kitty, a good loving cat!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:17 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 11:18 PM (7YlUk)
Actually, it's more like an insane asylum.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 28, 2015 11:18 PM (MYSVz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 28, 2015 11:19 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2015 11:19 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 28, 2015 11:19 PM (1brdf)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 28, 2015 11:19 PM (BVDFs)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2015 11:19 PM (oZr5y)
--Couldn't have said it better myself, by a long shot.
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 11:19 PM (z0HrT)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 28, 2015 11:19 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 28, 2015 11:20 PM (c/Ipt)
SCOTUE-care and gay marriage was so last week?
ISIS hit on the USA?
EMP?
Russian in the baltica/Scandi
Kate Upton is gay?
Teh beer tax come back at 8x the original?
boobehs stop bouncing?
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:20 PM (PY/7D)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:20 PM (EzgxV)
Because what we need are conservative ideologs and they tend not to be judges.
The Democrats and the media will fight this tooth and nail.
We are going to have to muscle through but alas could you see Mitch McConnell or Miss Lindsy going along with this plan?
No way in hell is an outright conservative ideolog getting on the SCOTUS.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2015 11:20 PM (WVvzl)
Night 2 of 6.
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court decisions this past week were not merely bad dreams.
Wish I had a beer to sip on...but the medical board frowns upon mixing alcohol and patient care.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2015 11:21 PM (b2cFu)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:21 PM (Xehhp)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2015 11:22 PM (oZr5y)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:20 PM (EzgxV)
***
Quite the prolific daywalker poster.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 28, 2015 11:22 PM (Mg6e/)
Wish I had a beer to sip on...but the medical board frowns upon mixing alcohol and patient care.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28, 2015 11:21 PM (b2cFu)
Fuck it, the SCOTUS doesn't mix law with decisions
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:23 PM (Xehhp)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:20 PM (EzgxV)
***
Quite the prolific daywalker poster.
Yes... I'm normally a day "walker" here too. Just thought I would check in...
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2015 11:23 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:20 PM (EzgxV)
***
Quite the prolific daywalker poster.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 28, 2015 11:22 PM (Mg6e/)
Well, that could explain it, since I'm generally here.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:23 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:24 PM (PY/7D)
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 11:24 PM (z0HrT)
Man, I am tired and, after that last thread, pretty depressed.
Good night, horde.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at June 28, 2015 11:24 PM (+XMAD)
and freedom of religion will increasingly be confined to what Justice
Alito called the deepest recesses of your home mind.
There. Fixed that for y'all.
Posted by: PPs43 at June 28, 2015 11:25 PM (gs8t9)
Posted by: Tobias at June 28, 2015 11:25 PM (kivUY)
Wish I had a beer to sip on...but the medical board frowns upon mixing alcohol and patient care.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 28
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Beer is a fundamental right. It's right there in the Constitution.
Posted by: Justice Anthony Kennedy at June 28, 2015 11:25 PM (oZr5y)
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2015 11:25 PM (Bn6aD)
-- Mark Steyn
Get in the closet, bigots!
Posted by: The Lavender Mafia at June 28, 2015 11:25 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 28, 2015 11:25 PM (+4uXG)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at June 28, 2015 11:26 PM (93KBH)
Alito called the deepest recesses of your home mind.
Wonder how long it will be before I put size 10 in mouth?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:26 PM (Xehhp)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:27 PM (PY/7D)
It's a nice time to make that little announcement with the GreeceFire getting started. Maybe no one will notice.
One thing I was sure of was the efforts of the Fed and everyone else to "save" the markets was going to lead to an even bigger crash. I just didn't know when and how long the illusion would last. This may be the start, but I'm not sure. We'll know soon enough.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 11:27 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 28, 2015 11:27 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:27 PM (Xehhp)
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2015 11:28 PM (Bn6aD)
My first cat in childhood was also Kitty, a gray tiger cat.
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at June 28, 2015 11:28 PM (93KBH)
- 2A/gun rights.
- Undermining failing public schools.
There was also the Hobby Lobby decision last year.
If I'm wrong, I'm sure folks here will let me know...
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 28, 2015 11:28 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: PPs43 at June 28, 2015 11:28 PM (gs8t9)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:29 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Weirddave at June 28, 2015 11:29 PM (7TK5d)
Posted by: joncelli at June 28, 2015 11:29 PM (5ALxI)
41 daywalkers unite and take over the ont!!!!
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 28, 2015 11:27 PM (0O7c5)
I've never been a fan of the "daywalker/night time crowd" designations/separations.
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2015 11:30 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:30 PM (OB/ib)
One day he's pulling shit out of his ass, the next day he's decrying the same.
Oh and there are something in the neighborhood of 141K people in SSM and civil unions across the country which works out to 0.04pct of the population.
Amazing!!
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2015 11:30 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 28, 2015 11:30 PM (CxEX+)
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:30 PM (OB/ib)
Who???
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:31 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: lauren at June 28, 2015 11:31 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Buford Gooch at June 28, 2015 11:31 PM (ZwQjw)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 28, 2015 11:30 PM (CxEX+)
In debt to whom?
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:31 PM (OB/ib)
That's awful!
Posted by: Detroit at June 28, 2015 11:32 PM (kivUY)
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That's known as "growing in office."
*spit*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2015 11:32 PM (oZr5y)
Posted by: donna at June 28, 2015 11:32 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 11:32 PM (z0HrT)
That's b/c you're a dirty RINO, buzzion! Lol
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at June 28, 2015 11:32 PM (93KBH)
One day he's pulling shit out of his ass, the next day he's decrying the same.
"
Seriously. At least Kennedy's brand of crazy has some rhyme and reason. Roberts is just nuts-o.
Posted by: lauren at June 28, 2015 11:32 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 28, 2015 11:32 PM (F0Cog)
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Shark EBT cards hardest hit.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2015 11:33 PM (oZr5y)
Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at June 28, 2015 11:34 PM (GwjEG)
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:30 PM (OB/ib)
Sure, let loose of their sorry ass. Let em go. Just another sucking toilet with money going down the drain.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:34 PM (Xehhp)
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:34 PM (OB/ib)
So, imagine the look of disapproval when the vet called regarding a checkup for "the Satanic Death Cat from Hell". She was nothing of the sort really.
Posted by: lurker at June 28, 2015 11:34 PM (vu484)
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2015 11:35 PM (zt+N6)
In your guts, you know he's nuts.
Nuts about destroying the planet.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 28, 2015 11:35 PM (UVfht)
Posted by: Garrett at June 28, 2015 11:35 PM (o3+os)
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 28, 2015 11:35 PM (Dwehj)
Will we bail PR out? I have no clue. If we do it will be an entity that is $18T+ in debt bailing out an entity that is 72B in debt.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 11:36 PM (dvuhZ)
most I don't know
SE Cupp is way motorboatable but not a conservative
I' kick SE off and replace her with Tantaros, Andres
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:36 PM (PY/7D)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 28, 2015 11:27 PM (0O7c5)
****
Easy now, everyone. I am referring to how those that post on the ONT are occasionally referred to by those that mainly post during the day.
I read the daytime stuff, but rarely post because driving to or at client sites within 5 states.
That's all. Sheesh.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 28, 2015 11:36 PM (mG3Qj)
When did we ever do otherwise?
Posted by: Thor's feather duster at June 28, 2015 11:36 PM (JgC5a)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 28, 2015 11:37 PM (CxEX+)
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:30 PM (OB/ib)
Sure, let loose of their sorry ass. Let em go. Just another sucking toilet with money going down the drain.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:34 PM (Xehhp)
Get a millions of conservatives to scrounge up the money, and offer to pay off the debt if all the Leftists are kicked out. Then those millions of conservatives can move there and vote for independence...
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2015 11:38 PM (7YlUk)
"There's a sign on the wall, but he wants to be be sure, cause you know sometimes words have two meanings. In the tree by the brook. There's a songbird who sings, sometimes all of are thoughts are misgiven."
Posted by: Michael J. Bilek at June 28, 2015 11:38 PM (S2yuE)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 11:38 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 11:38 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: colonel george taylor at June 28, 2015 11:39 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at June 28, 2015 11:39 PM (+4mdw)
That's called spiking the football and the asshole who inhabits the Office of The President of the United States excels at that shit.
He literally can not stop being a dick.
It's like he gets up, looks in the mirror and says, "how can I be an even bigger dick today than I was yesterday?"
Fucker is good at it, it's about the only thing he's good at.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2015 11:39 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 28, 2015 11:40 PM (EzgxV)
Ok, when and where. Who gets tied up again?
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2015 11:40 PM (ztOda)
Posted by: @votermom at June 28, 2015 11:40 PM (cbfNE)
Julie Banderas did that on FNC yesterday.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 11:40 PM (W5DcG)
Why the fuck dobwrblook the other way while the Progressives exploit that charity loophole?
And Tax the Clinton Foundation double.
Posted by: Garrett at June 28, 2015 11:40 PM (o3+os)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at June 28, 2015 11:41 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 28, 2015 11:41 PM (CxEX+)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:41 PM (PY/7D)
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2015 11:42 PM (z0HrT)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 11:38 PM (W5DcG)
Last year , their Federal level judge blocked a lawsuit or some such thing to legalize gay marriage. And because they are a territory and not a state, our Federal statutes are not binding on them.
So that is one thing we wouldn't have to fix when we arrive.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:42 PM (OB/ib)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 28, 2015 11:43 PM (mvenn)
fuck those guys
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:43 PM (PY/7D)
And there's this:
@RANsquawk 26 minutes ago
BREAKING: CHINEXT PLUNGES 7.8% TO FALL 20% OVER THE PAST 3-DAYS
CHINEXT is the name of the Shenzhen Stock Exchange, one of China's three stock exchanges.
Posted by: Thrawn at June 28, 2015 11:43 PM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: publius
Of course DC will. Spending taxpayer's money is their only prerogative.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 28, 2015 11:43 PM (fYgrm)
Then they played some music for us a couple of nights later. That was pretty good so Bob decided to howl back at them.
No pizza from Bobo. So I wouldn't let him see me.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 28, 2015 11:43 PM (dboyw)
Some fools, although those fools are likely to soon be us for some our betters might explain to us.
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2015 11:43 PM (ztOda)
Posted by: Country Singer at June 28, 2015 11:44 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at June 28, 2015 11:44 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:44 PM (PY/7D)
Posted by: AstroBevo at June 28, 2015 11:45 PM (I2gXY)
My cat of 8 years passed on Friday too. He seemed fine that morning, but when I got up that afternoon, he had passed. So I feel you pain.
Thanks for another fine ONT.
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 28, 2015 11:45 PM (6n332)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:44 PM (PY/7D)
Anyone who buys municipal, state, or savings bonds.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:45 PM (OB/ib)
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2015 11:45 PM (ztOda)
Maet, sorry about Kitty. Love cats. And he looks like a good one. But nine years is a good solid run for a feline. And presumably a good life, in your home. So .....
Meanwhile, I hope nobody recalls but more than many many times I have used a stock phrase (mine) about SCOTUS (and really the whole federal judiciary): "an unelected, unaccountable super-legislature for dummies". Pretty close to the terms used in those excellent pieces referenced/cited in the ONT.
And two related, gloomy points.
First, note how the "other" side (hate this terminology, as I don't have a "side", I have logic, facts, and values) is - to all appearances - utterly unconcerned about, you know, actual process, law, the constitution, liberty. Nothing close to thoughtful, perhaps some misgivings about how both the week's catastrophic farces were implemented. If something I favored *on the merits* were achieved in such ridiculous, abusive, arbitrary ways, it would be more than a bit of a stain on the whole thing.
Second, take both the WH and broader cultural reactions to things, incl. the ridiculous Confederate flag hysteria.
This WH, already degraded in so many ways the last few years, has reached a new low. Rainbow fucking lighting? Are you fucking kidding me? Has the WH - ever, under any president - engaged in cheap theatrics with the property itself to spike the ball, much less on an outrageous bit of arrogant judicial tyranny to impose a lawless, unneeded and mostly unwanted bit of social engineering? (leave alone that the president at the time conspicuously opposed this bit of social engineering until quite recently)
And the flag thing? WTF? Weirddave's use of the infamous retouched Stalin/Molotov/forgot his name!(Beria, I think?) photo is an all-too appropriate device, andit's sickening to any thinking American that THIS country is engaging in bizarre history-suppressing hysterics like the brutal, uncivilized countries generations have fled to shelter in American sanity.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2015 11:45 PM (QDnY+)
96 So when they throw the bouquet at a same sex wedding is it going to look more like a rugby scrum?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 28, 2015 1
Waiting for the day Isis puts necklaces back into fashion
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:46 PM (Xehhp)
...or a Lemon Party.
Posted by: Garrett at June 28, 2015 11:46 PM (o3+os)
Sorry to hear about your loss, I certainly know how it feels.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 28, 2015 11:46 PM (F2IAQ)
stay proud dumbasses
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (jT+gh)
Politico Writer Says Gay Marriage is Superior to Regular Marriage
By EMILY ESFAHANI SMITH
a writer based in New Haven, Connecticut. She is the Manners and Morals columnist at The New Criterion, managing editor of the Hoover Institution's Defining Ideas
Conservative institutions, ladies and gents.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Butch at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (HLx1C)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (PY/7D)
So sorry for you loss of your beloved kitty.
A kitty is thing to love always.
They love us, but they are always the masters of us, by way of our hearts.
Posted by: Thor's feather duster at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (JgC5a)
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (dboyw)
Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (ztOda)
Office of The President of the United States excels at that shit.
I suppose that's what galls me the most. The in-your-face belligerence, the "this is my house, so f*ck you" attitude. As was stated by a poster in the earlier thread, "the mask is off".
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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Also, will they throw a sock garter?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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Also, will they throw a sock garter?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 28, 2015 11:47 PM (F2IAQ)
Condolences, Maet
and from this semi lurker, thanks for all the work on the ONTs
Posted by: Far Post at June 28, 2015 11:48 PM (CWDSd)
Cats playing accordions : DYNOMITE !!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 28, 2015 11:48 PM (W5DcG)
The Left needs the current Tax code to punish its enemies, for PROGRESS! Thats why you'll never see a Fair Tax or anything similar to it.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 28, 2015 11:49 PM (NGd+i)
Populace is already hording food and gas. Greece has been in full-on collapse mode for years. Just read some of the stories.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 11:50 PM (dvuhZ)
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As long as the stuff hits the fan while Obama is in office. I hate rooting for bad news but if it is to happen, let the Perfesser of Constitootin' Law deal with it and show what a poseur he and his gang are.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 28, 2015 11:50 PM (dboyw)
wouldn't tossing a sausage be more of a thing?
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:50 PM (PY/7D)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at June 28, 2015 11:51 PM (+4mdw)
Oh no he's not done.
I fully expect a gay wedding ceremony to be conducted at the white house, fully expect it.
One of the SCOTUS hags will officiate it, media coverage the whole nines..
You can take that to the bank.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2015 11:51 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:51 PM (PY/7D)
But two guys marrying has no effect on anyone else's marriage.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 28, 2015 11:52 PM (10ydV)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at June 28, 2015 11:52 PM (0RdKg)
wouldn't tossing a sausage be more of a thing?
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:50 PM (PY/7D)
Sausage? Maybe a fresh tuna is more appropriate, depending on the participants.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 28, 2015 11:52 PM (nL0sw)
Their net income can be zero very easy
property taxes? but those are local
hmmm
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:52 PM (PY/7D)
wouldn't tossing a sausage be more of a thing?
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:50 PM (PY/7D)
I think that they prefer to toss salad.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 28, 2015 11:52 PM (10ydV)
'Do you have the Cock Ring?'
Posted by: Same Sex Wedding Quotes at June 28, 2015 11:52 PM (o3+os)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at June 28, 2015 11:53 PM (AF8UR)
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at June 28, 2015 11:53 PM (FbbZf)
And a Twitter reply to that decision that you can pass along on e.g. Facebook:
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2015/06/pitchforks-and-.html
Posted by: andycanuck at June 28, 2015 11:53 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: t-bird at June 28, 2015 11:54 PM (FcR7P)
Post Modern Juke Box - I Don't Mind - Vintage Las Vegas Style.
https://youtu.be/JnWJUoR2tFc
Posted by: buzzion at June 28, 2015 11:54 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2015 11:54 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: eman at June 28, 2015 11:55 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Alana at June 28, 2015 11:55 PM (ku1y8)
Andy McCarthy: It's Time To Give Up on the Supreme Court as a Court
So forget Constitutional strict constructionalism and all that and simply strive to get conservative electors into our third legislative body
A majority of the justices were appointed by Republicans. The Democratic appointees were confirmed with the usual rump Republican vote in the case of Obama's picks, or overwhelming GOP support, in the case of Clinton's choices.
This farce of a court is a Republican court.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2015 11:55 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Same Sex Wedding Quotes at June 28, 2015 11:55 PM (o3+os)
Posted by: don lemon at June 28, 2015 11:55 PM (kivUY)
The IRS can revoke their 501c3 status, et al.
Hostile localities can do the same with local taxes, et al.
They are not done extracting their revenge.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2015 11:56 PM (WVvzl)
are the banks open yet?
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It's a Greek national holiday. Assrape Germany Day.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2015 11:56 PM (oZr5y)
maybe the horde could infiltrate them and get sausage tossing to be a 'thing' and gay marrage cerimonies?
crud if less than 2% of the pop can do 4th gen warfare what can us morons do?
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:56 PM (PY/7D)
There is an absolutely crazy level of margin debt in Chinese stock markets. Here come the margin calls. This coupled with the Grexit from the EU could spark a global black swan event.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 28, 2015 11:56 PM (noWW6)
There was a mask? Fucker told rightie newsman, he was elected
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 28, 2015 11:56 PM (Xehhp)
McCarthy articulated several familiar and widespread thoughts about the current lawlessness quite well.
And somewhere, cannot recall/find where, some legal types actually *were* seriously discussing how Roberts' histrionically bad and self-contradicting approaches to the two big cases might really point to some personal problem or developing instability. They were very sheepish about "going there," but .....
Can't top Scalia's "bag over my head" dismissal of the garbage from Kennedy.
Brace yourselves: but as ace occasionally can't help but comment, so many of the people running/ruining the country and culture just aren't very bright. Williamson says were are ruled by criminals (his latest on SCOTUS is worth reading, BTW); may be, but there is no doubt that we are being ruled (not governed) by dummies.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2015 11:56 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 28, 2015 11:56 PM (6qR/9)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615187549817057280
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615204357806538752
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615204840021430272
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615204998645821440
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615205191915167744
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615205340037025793
Posted by: kbdabear at June 28, 2015 11:56 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: two girls one cup at June 28, 2015 11:57 PM (56XFm)
Posted by: Garrett at June 28, 2015 11:57 PM (o3+os)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 28, 2015 11:57 PM (kivUY)
The Modern Survival Manual: Surviving the Economic Collapse
About a Guy who went thru the collapse in Argentina, he gives his tips on how to survive.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 28, 2015 11:57 PM (CxEX+)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:57 PM (PY/7D)
And as for me, I want accommodationsin gricery stores. How hard WOUKD it be to set a few stools around? All my life I've had to ask total strangers to reach something down fir me. (Fortunately, I never had to ask Michele Ibama; that WOUKD have been racist.)
Posted by: Alana at June 28, 2015 11:58 PM (ku1y8)
And a Twitter reply to that decision that you can pass along on e.g. Facebook:
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2015/06/pitchforks-and-.html
Posted by: andycanuck at June 28, 2015 11:53 PM (kivUY)
That is a great thread on that site. Our Canadian compatriots have the same opinion of Canada's SC as we have of ours.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 28, 2015 11:58 PM (OB/ib)
Posted by: Kenway at June 28, 2015 11:58 PM (5L5St)
This farce of a court is a Republican court.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2015 11:55 PM (kdS6q)
***
It no longer matters how we got here. This is how they keep us squabbling.
The only question left is "What to do now?".
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 28, 2015 11:58 PM (mG3Qj)
Yes, the left is way too powerful, in the USA and everywhere else. But we need to remember, Alinsky said "power is what your opponent *thinks* you have, not just what you have." And unfortunately there are a lot of great, well-meaning folks here who seem to believe it's all hopeless, the left is now in full God mode and can make *anything* happen.
If the left truly is all-powerful nowadays, I'm wondering:
- How did Air America fail? Wouldn't the all-powerful leftists manage to keep it afloat?
- How does Fox News stay on the air?
- How did conservatives win Hobby Lobby?
- How are 2A/conservative gun rights lobbyists winning so many battles in court?
- How are charter/private school advocates winning so many battles in court?
I say, we keep on fighting where we're winning, examine the crap out of those victories, and start applying those lessons to those where we're not doing as well.
Or, you know, we could just keep prayin' for SMOD. The easy thing... ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 28, 2015 11:58 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 28, 2015 11:58 PM (DblUs)
The German VolksWagen Group by themselves out did the whole Nation of Greece at 202 Billion Euros.
Go Greece!!
?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 28, 2015 11:59 PM (91eZY)
Furthermore, Republican's don't like what the court is doing? Get some impeachments going.
If you're going to be the party of empty gestures, at least take some skin off 'em.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2015 11:59 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 28, 2015 11:59 PM (PY/7D)
Posted by: Alana at June 28, 2015 11:59 PM (ku1y8)
andycanuck, thanks, very good (not on BookFace or any other soc-media, but anyway .....)
eman, LDC - spot-on and well said, as ever
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2015 11:59 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: The Mask Being Off at June 29, 2015 12:00 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 28, 2015 11:56 PM (6qR/9)
Especially when they are deep fried...
Posted by: Barack Obama, Canine Connoisseur at June 29, 2015 12:00 AM (7YlUk)
to greeting us at door when we got home to sleeping in our bed at night,
he was a constant happy presence in our lives for nine years. And now
we have a Kitty-sized hole in our lives."
Deepest sympathies.
The reminders are hard.
Finding old cat toys under the furniture.
Looking at that once-favorite napping spot, now always empty.
Waking up in the night thinking you've heard that familiar mew.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 29, 2015 12:00 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2015 12:01 AM (5LOno)
I immediately leaped into action and started sprinting toward the scene like a veritable gazelle.....if such a gazelle were an unathletic overupholstered creaky guy in his fifties that would leave lions thinking, "let's save that one for if I ever break a leg or something."
I got to the scene of the accident and ascertained that nobody was seriously hurt, mostly by running up to the calm conversation they were having and shouting "ANYBODY HURT?!? ANYBODY HURT?!?" at the top of my lungs. I then asked whether they would appreciate the attention of the local constabulary -- who could, at the very least, keep fat weirdos from huffing and puffing up to their conversations and screaming at them. They readily agreed that might be a proper course of action.
So I called the non-emergency line and got someone dispatched to the scene. It's actually a dangerous intersection because the through road isn't supposed to be fast but people drive it that way, and the cross road only has yield signs. I think this is actually the second accident in a week.
While the po-po were advancin' on the hood, yo, I went to get a pushbroom, dustpan, and garbage container -- figuring that the intersection was dangerous enough without the possibility of getting a flat while crossing it. The policeman arrived just as I got everything together and I asked him if he wanted to inspect anything or make measurements before I started. He said, "no, but you don't have to do that." While he was taking statements and making notes, I got everything sweeped and binned.
I then pointed out to one of those involved that they'd compromised the crumple zone on the front driver's side and that they needed to make sure that the repair didn't just reskin over it because then the driver would be unprotected in the event of another front end crash. The policeman later noted that they should have the airbag inspected because it possibly should have deployed.......and may be hanging on a hair-trigger.
So, anyway, that's part of the gripping excitement that is The Life of Cthulhu.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 12:01 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 29, 2015 12:01 AM (XAFOu)
It no longer matters how we got here.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
Well if the proposed solution is to elect more Republicans who can be expected to do more of the same, kinda does.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:01 AM (kdS6q)
How can you get turned on by someone you aren't related to? And...adults?
Posted by: Lena Dunham at June 29, 2015 12:01 AM (5LOno)
Today was an interesting day at my at-home typing job. I was tasked to type a PDF of what I wouldn't know how to descrbe, but a complete *script,* of how prosecutors examine police officers in DUI cases. Turns out it's literally as down-pat as Shakespeare. Complete with "now Mr. DA, you say this, and Mr. Officer, you say that..."
I support DUI laws, but it's gone way beyond obvious that it's also a huge moneymaker for the cities, counties, states and Feds. And of course just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:02 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: DeRay McKesson at June 29, 2015 12:02 AM (5L5St)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 29, 2015 12:02 AM (b2cFu)
Posted by: AstroBevo at June 28, 2015 11:45 PM (I2gXY)
And topless female accordion bands are the entertainingest of all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 29, 2015 12:02 AM (5z2ng)
Right now my aunt's kitty is great comfort while going through cancer treatment. They know when you're hurting.
God bless the animals.
Posted by: mpfs, Questioning My Sanity at June 29, 2015 12:02 AM (y+J3v)
MWNP and qdpsteve, with nice dosesof practicality and resolve!
Mean that. You both have good points.
Clearly the morons here should run the country. So I guess the question is how do we make THAT happen?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 12:02 AM (QDnY+)
Because everyone uses Twitter nowadays anyway. Or so I am told.
- How does Fox News stay on the air?
Because they are establishment.
- How did conservatives win Hobby Lobby?
- How are 2A/conservative gun rights lobbyists winning so many battles in court?
Because SCOTUS is not a uniformly leftist superlegislature, but is mixed. We got those victories too from the SCOTUS superlegislature.
- How are charter/private school advocates winning so many battles in court?
Because the left hasn't yet settled on a successful litigation strategy to drive them out of business.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at June 29, 2015 12:02 AM (+4mdw)
Finding old cat toys under the furniture.
If I were any good at it, I could knit myself a new cat from all the fur my recently-taken left behind. There will be reminders for years.
Posted by: t-bird at June 29, 2015 12:03 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 29, 2015 12:03 AM (jT+gh)
Posted by: Jean at June 29, 2015 12:03 AM (ztOda)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (b2cFu)
Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (e+1S5)
A friend of mine has a hundred-trillion-dollar bill issued by the Zimbabwean government. It's worth a few pennies, if that.
I fully expect to live to see such denominations issued by the U.S. Treasury, and will not be in the least surprised to find them graced with the likeness of King Putt.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: Maetenloch at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (wqVD1)
And chemjeff, all good points but again, I think conservatives would do themselves well to spend more time learning from their victories. It certainly couldn't hurt us.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (ntObR)
***
The point of government is to take money from the productive class to enrich itself. Everything else is secondary.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (5LOno)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at June 29, 2015 12:05 AM (+4mdw)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:01 AM (kdS6q)
*****
Which dovetails nicely with my further comment that you selectively edited out which was "What do we do about it now?".
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 12:05 AM (p7dd/)
Posted by: pookysgirl can walk (a few yards) at June 29, 2015 12:06 AM (p5m4k)
Posted by: butch at June 28, 2015 10:52 PM
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Smokers dying of lung cancer probably resent their family members who tried for years to vet them to quit. I just wish the spiteful assholes would drop dead already instead of trying to punish the rest of us for the consequences of their own actions.
Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 29, 2015 12:07 AM (6qR/9)
Posted by: Cicero
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Gosh..., it almost coincides with what I will now call Ernst Röhm Day in the U.S.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 12:07 AM (F2IAQ)
One kernel of corn in the bushel of Supreme Court shit is their reputation will now tank. They typically had the highest approval rating of the 3 branches by quite a bit; I bet that takes a huuuuge hit.
More importantly, they will no longer have a reputation as dispassionate arbiters of the Constitution. Now, they are just another gubmint agency in need of a good keelhauling.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 29, 2015 12:07 AM (DblUs)
They don't exactly work like a treadle spring trap ... I bet the air bag is missing - stolen years ago.
Posted by: Jean at June 29, 2015 12:07 AM (ztOda)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:02 AM (ntObR)
Yep. If it were about safety people would not still be on the road getting their 8th DUI. And they also wouldn't be attempting to have private party bus services banned or put out of business.
Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2015 12:08 AM (zt+N6)
It does theater, it puts on a play.
The only thing the folks in DC take seriously is protecting their jobs, increasing their wealth, and their power.
The rest is show.
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 12:08 AM (MQEz6)
I know it's hard to lose a pet, but they bring such joy into your life that the trade off is worth it.
"Happy is the home with at least one cat." ~ Italian proverb.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at June 29, 2015 12:10 AM (nJvB1)
A real DUI policy would be: first offense, lose your license for five years, you're not allowed anywhere near a car during that time, no exceptions, maybe not even for your job or emergencies.
second offense, you're in jail for attempted murder and you *never* get to drive again. Period.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:10 AM (ntObR)
Cruel gift that G*d gives us but they make us better people.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 29, 2015 12:10 AM (XAFOu)
qdpsteve, good point about doing some after-action analysis of engagements that have been won, for lessons learned. But the 2A situation, just talking broad strokes here, might be seen as offering even more bad news.
Yes, Heller and McDonald. But, though it *may* be early, there seems to be a bit of lower-court lawlessness going on (extremely rare), and so far SCOTUS has shown no interest (completely unheard of). See the ridiculous SF gun law case, recently passed over for consideration by SCOTUS, and see Thomas' comments on this refusal to grant cert. See DC's barely-concealed defiance in actually implementing Heller.
Just one of the situations you rightly cited - but when you consider these and other fairly odd indications that the system is NOT working within Heller/McDonald, as usually happens after big cases, and also that (contra this absurd rabbit-out-of-a-hat marriage decision based on the 14th) the 2A cases are factually clear-cut AND revolve around an express limitation on govt. set forth in the constitution .... well ...
Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 12:10 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:10 AM (BVDFs)
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aka 'Political Expediency'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 12:11 AM (F2IAQ)
you selectively edited out
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
The term is "elide" when you just intend to respond to one part of a post.
As to the the rest, propose a solution yourself and perhaps that will spark a conversation.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:11 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:12 AM (ntObR)
Just wait until Obamacare hits people even more than it has already. The conservative blogosphere and the GOP should tie that bitch to the SCOTUS to push, "That's why they shouldn't be legislating from the bench and have to be cut back to what they were originally supposed to do!" (Not that the GOPe would favour that tack.)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 29, 2015 12:13 AM (kivUY)
Posted by: Adriane the Pithy Saying Critic ... at June 29, 2015 12:13 AM (nSOh+)
Posted by: gp at June 29, 2015 12:13 AM (mk9aG)
As to the the rest, propose a solution yourself and perhaps that will spark a conversation.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:11 AM (kdS6q)
*****
My term is disingenuous when you pull that shit, Sport. Since you brought it up, you go first.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 12:14 AM (p7dd/)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 12:14 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Adriane the Pithy Saying Critic ... at June 29, 2015 12:14 AM (nSOh+)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 29, 2015 12:14 AM (XAFOu)
Posted by: Maetenloch at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (wqVD1)
Please accept my condolences as well, Maet. I lost a long-time kitty companion just last month.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 29, 2015 12:14 AM (5z2ng)
Posted by: gp at June 29, 2015 12:15 AM (mk9aG)
Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2015 12:08 AM (zt+N6)
If DUI were about anything reasonable they wouldn't be arresting guys riding lawn mowers. BTW, you know that it's legal in many states for cops to come onto your property while your riding your lawn mower drinking a beer and arrest you, for mowing the lawn on YOUR property with a beer. ... and golf carts and the whole lot. And, frankly, anyone who arrests, tries, or in any way participates in these offenses against normal society is far more of a dangerous criminal than any actual drunk driver.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 29, 2015 12:15 AM (MYSVz)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (b2cFu)
Yeah, there's still echoes of the other -- this evening's discussion with the fiancee involved a "lost" "Projects Account". Turns out it isn't linked to my replacement WF card but it's linked to hers.....wouldn't be an issue if I were accessing anything online.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 12:15 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Kreplach at June 29, 2015 12:16 AM (1SzQh)
Posted by: Daybrother at June 29, 2015 12:17 AM (9o75O)
Posted by: Garrett at June 29, 2015 12:17 AM (o3+os)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 12:17 AM (MQEz6)
If someone reaches old age, he'll likely die of pneumonia and experience a similar end.
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 29, 2015 12:17 AM (jT+gh)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 29, 2015 12:18 AM (CxEX+)
My term is disingenuous when you pull that shit, Sport. Since you brought it up, you go first.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
1, Sorry, but not every word of what you write is deathless prose that must be dwelt upon like the Torah.
2. You're the one who asked for options, with your fruity "Oh Dear, what shall we doooo" rhetorical question.
3. Let you balls drop and suggest something first.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:18 AM (kdS6q)
227 In case you weren't paying attention, the Cubs are losing to the Cardinals.
Posted by: Garrett at June 29, 2015 12:17 AM (o3+os
So I guess the prediction from Back to the Future 2 of the Cubs winning the World Series this year is going bye bye.
Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2015 12:19 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Garrett at June 29, 2015 12:17 AM (o3+os)
***
A rewind of last night I guess, when last I looked they were down 8-1. My hometown team. *sigh*
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 12:19 AM (mG3Qj)
Posted by: BuckIV at June 29, 2015 12:19 AM (CLfqv)
Posted by: Maetenloch at June 29, 2015 12:04 AM (wqVD1)
We're constrained by the amount of reverence we have for our Lord of the ONTs.....but we are all remembering our own losses and sending you and Mrs. M strength and comfort for yours.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 12:20 AM (EzgxV)
drinking an ont posting is way cheaper and funner!!
eleventy
!!
Posted by: moron #73 at June 29, 2015 12:20 AM (PY/7D)
The UK funded a meticulous study a few years ago which found that the majority of drivers actually became safer when mildly inebriated. They recognized their state, slowed down, maintained wider distances from other vehicles, declined to accelerate through changing lights at intersections, et cet.
This did not comport with what the political class desired as policy, so the study was immediately buried.
The study found there is (as one would naturally expect) a tipping point where further intoxication does begin to impair the safe driving of the majority of drivers. That point is higher than the 0.08 standard which the US and UK now employ.
A retired cop who taught a traffic school class which I attended talked to me off the record about DUI and BAC. He said that there are *so* many drivers out there clocking 0.08 that if it really were reliably correlated with driving danger, there would be mass slaughter on the roads every night.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 29, 2015 12:20 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: gp at June 29, 2015 12:15 AM (mk9aG)
Read this earlier.
Long Distance Runaround / Fish ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TI0u6nIil8
Posted by: Adriane the Pithy Saying Critic ... at June 29, 2015 12:20 AM (nSOh+)
Absent gods
And silent tyranny
We're going under
Hypnotized by another
Pup-pet-eer
And tell me why the
Men in cloaks
Always have to
Bring me down
Running from the
Ghosts and shadows
The world just disavows
Mercy
Mercy
Show me mercy
From the powers that be
Show me mercy
Can someone rescue me
Posted by: seemingly appropriate Arkham Knight commercial earworm at June 29, 2015 12:20 AM (9iL4y)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 29, 2015 12:22 AM (kivUY)
Posted by: BuckIV at June 29, 2015 12:22 AM (CLfqv)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,aging Redneck Queen supermodel, has a Hobbit foot at June 29, 2015 12:22 AM (FCPu0)
2. You're the one who asked for options, with your fruity "Oh Dear, what shall we doooo" rhetorical question.
3. Let you balls drop and suggest something first.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:18 AM (kdS6q)
***
Wow, projection is a rather disturbingly awesome thing to occasionally witness.
Given your lack of a response, I fart in your general direction.
Peace out.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 12:23 AM (QNcbF)
Posted by: moron #73 at June 29, 2015 12:23 AM (PY/7D)
I'm a big thick guy so my BAC might have to be up to past .1 to see a difference in my driving. OTOH, I have a very thin sister who has half a beer and boom, she's inebriated and can't drive.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:23 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: BignJames at June 29, 2015 12:24 AM (j7iSn)
But CNN called it the ISIS flag, never caught the satire. Question in my mind: was this some gay pride type deliberately mocking ISIS, or was this somebody mocking Big Anus by drawing a comparison to ISIS? Or was it an agent provocateur seeking to spark a confrontation between ISIS and the Mauve Mafia?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 29, 2015 12:24 AM (5z2ng)
Posted by: Jean at June 29, 2015 12:03 AM (ztOda)
They aren't after the churches for income tax, it's property taxes that they want to hit them with.
Why? There are a crapton of churches located on very valuable property in liberal shithold cities. Couple that with all the things the church has in it used for its services that can be taxed as "machinery" or furniture, and you get another assload of money.
The Left isn't thinking of the Feds getting the money but their allies in local governments that have a want for that cash.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 29, 2015 12:24 AM (Z7G74)
Posted by: torquewrench at June 29, 2015 12:20 AM (noWW6)
Yep. People know that the chances of anyone getting into an accident is very, very low - even if they're drunk as hell. But they take one or two accidents and blow them out of proportion, making people think that if you get in a car drunk, in any way, you're almost guaranteed to get into a fatal accident. And that's just obvious bullshit. But they need to make it sound so immediate and grave so that they can arrest everyone drinking within earshot of any "motorized vehicle" (to a scooter) and can put up un-Constitutional random roadblocks to search all of us ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 29, 2015 12:25 AM (MYSVz)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 29, 2015 12:26 AM (0O7c5)
I'm weird, I've never been a pet person. Probably because of my OCD, which of course leads to my severe distaste at even the thought of having to clean up a litter box or other varieties of dander. (I often joke to my family, I'll get a pet as soon as they invent one that doesn't poop.)
The older I get though, I can definitely understand why people love their pets, especially big shaggy friendly dogs. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:26 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 29, 2015 12:24 AM (5z2ng)<<<
Hmmm, maybe zombie's been up to some mischief?
Posted by: fingers crossed at June 29, 2015 12:27 AM (9iL4y)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:26 AM (ntObR)
You need a pet rock. I just happen to have several for sale, all housebroken, and vetted by a geologist.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 29, 2015 12:29 AM (5z2ng)
Check out this recent Fox report on CA traffic fines; reason #infinity+1 to not going to CA:
http://tinyurl.com/p85l32u
It's not just DUIs anymore.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 29, 2015 12:29 AM (DblUs)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 12:29 AM (MQEz6)
I live in the belly of the beast, Los Angeles County. Am OC-adjacent however.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:30 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 12:31 AM (HLx1C)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:26 AM (ntObR)
You need a pet rock. I just happen to have several for sale, all housebroken, and vetted by a geologist.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 29, 2015 12:29 AM (5z2ng)
You sound like a metamorphic kinda guy.
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 12:31 AM (MQEz6)
Exponential growth is not sustainable. The human mind just can't seem to grasp it. Everything looks fine, until just before the end.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 29, 2015 12:31 AM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:33 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Miley Cyrus at June 29, 2015 12:33 AM (6qR/9)
I love dogs too, but never owned any. Lonely cats keep showing up on the doorstep needing a home.
Posted by: gp at June 29, 2015 12:33 AM (mk9aG)
Think about it for a sec. Vile-isis.
Hope he's not in partnership with Dr. Gaynazi...
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:34 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: gp
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Hoboes, reincarnated.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 12:35 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Country Singer at June 29, 2015 12:35 AM (nL0sw)
"We take your shit so you don't have to!!"
[/rimshot]
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:36 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 12:37 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:38 AM (ntObR)
Check out this recent Fox report on CA traffic fines
Posted by: GnuBreed
People seem rather surprised that if you don't pay your initial ticket and skip court, things go egg-shaped pretty fast.
Now, a legitimate complaint is the doubling of fines in "construction zones", then putting vacant work sites up and down the freeway to git you for that.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:38 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 29, 2015 12:39 AM (10ydV)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:39 AM (ntObR)
politics, this is math.' That is a lesson Washington is going to learn,
and it ain't going to be pretty."
Meanwhile, the guy at the top of the heap in Washington right now loves politics and hates math. Yeah, that'll end well.
Anyone else remember the snide line from _The West Wing_ about how they wanted to have "parts of speech, and fractions," included in the list of debate topics with their Republican challenger?
Can anyone imagine Obama having had to wrestle with fractions, live on television? It would be UTTERLY MARVELOUS.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 29, 2015 12:39 AM (noWW6)
"Uh Caltrans, I don't see any actual work going on. What are you really constructing here?"
"Pretext."
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:40 AM (ntObR)
I have a cat story I've maybe told here before, but I think it's worth sharing again.
We came home from a trip, neighbor was taking care of our 20 yo cat. Wife goes in first and says "Sally is dead"!
I find the cat under the coffee table, cold and not breathing. Go out back and dig a hole to bury her. As I pick her up and get to the back door I hear a gasp.
We decide is the death gasp, air expelling from a dead body. I place her in the grave. When she is laid on the cold ground her legs start to move!
Bring her back in and pet her, she seems to respond, now I can see her breathing.
After a bit I realize it's time to let her go and stop petting her. She died a few minutes later.
It was amazing, my touch brought her back from near death, she was waiting for us. And once I let her go she passed. It was very weird.
Posted by: Farmer at June 29, 2015 12:40 AM (o/90i)
They literally peeled Regina off the steering wheel. She was 16.
Chris died when they took her off of life support after several years in a coma. She was 15 t the time of the "accident"
Diane got away with a crushed pelvis, 12 broken ribs, broken left shoulder, elbow and wrist, a broken jaw and crushed left orbital socket. Also 15.
I have no doubt that the drag racing is ultimately what did the damage ( 110 on impact) but the drinking impaired their judgement. They had been pulled over earlier that night, and since they said they were going right home, the cops let them go with a warning.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:41 AM (BVDFs)
A real DUI policy would be: first offense, lose your license for five years, you're not allowed anywhere near a car during that time, no exceptions, maybe not even for your job or emergencies.
second offense, you're in jail for attempted murder and you *never* get to drive again. Period.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:10 AM (ntObR)
Getting your license taken away won't stop a drunk from driving. Probably 5-10% of the people on the road have no license or are driving on a suspended license, and they don't care.
Several years ago, a woman was drunk as shit and killed a highway worker on her way home. During the lead up to her trial, she was not allowed to use alcohol or drugs and would be given breathalyzer tests, she failed them and was put into jail until her trial. She is found guilty and sentenced, she gets paroled. Several months later a motorist calls the police about someone weaving all over the road. Cops stop the car, and it is her, drunk as shit. Now she may be going back to the slammer, but who knows with the court system.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 29, 2015 12:41 AM (Z7G74)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:42 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:45 AM (ntObR)
***
Yep. In my home town, cops would follow you home if they had the time if you were drunk and driving, or just warn you that they better not see you out again if they didn't have the time.
Probably not a good policy, but it was a different time.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 12:46 AM (mG3Qj)
Probably not a good policy, but it was a different time.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 12:46 AM (mG3Qj)
We had a cop tell our senior class point blank that they knew the back road that all the kids went up to drink, and as long as the driver was sober, they didn't care about the rest of the car.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 29, 2015 12:48 AM (10ydV)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:48 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 12:49 AM (MQEz6)
Also re: CA traffic fines, here's the math:
http://www.courts.ca.gov/23715.htm
Lots of add-ons, but that's what happens when government eels around limitations on direct taxation.
But, if you can afford a car and insurance* and gas, you should be able to afford a standard ticket -- if you pay or challenge it on time.
* "?Que?"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:49 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:50 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:50 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 29, 2015 12:48 AM (10ydV)
In my town, some of the cops partied with 18-20 year olds. Pretty creepy, looking back, but it saved many a ticket, be that right or wrong.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 12:51 AM (QNcbF)
I keep reading that you shouldn't use actual litter for fear they'll eat it. Right now they use old sheets, but things have reached a crisis point.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:52 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 12:53 AM (2XMpf)
People already pay income taxes and property taxes for law enforcement.
Ticket fees give the government the wrong incentives.
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 12:54 AM (MQEz6)
The ACLU claimed the state denied drivers due process since they were required to pay a fine in full just for the right to see a judge.
That's a legit complaint. Not everyone has a cash float. Posting a partial bond before trail would be fair.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:54 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:52 AM (BVDFs)
I've got this antique document I'm not using.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 29, 2015 12:55 AM (5z2ng)
Shreaded paper was my standard with really young kittens
Posted by: Phil at June 29, 2015 12:55 AM (39FGM)
Posted by: Tammy
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?
I, and everyone I know, have just used ordinary litter. In my case, ordinary clay litter. It's all the rage now to use all sorts of other stuff, but *perhaps* that is where the eating comes in. Dunno.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 12:55 AM (F2IAQ)
Ohhhh tht's toughat is so dear and sweet.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:42 AM
It's tough to loose your pets. But they are a joy, we are now dealing w/ a 5 month old chocolate lab. She's a handful.
Posted by: Farmer at June 29, 2015 12:56 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 29, 2015 12:55 AM (5z2ng)
If it weren't so sad, I'd be LOLing.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:56 AM (BVDFs)
Give her a receipt, and she goes nuts. She's in cat heaven.
On that cute note, good night everyone.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 29, 2015 12:56 AM (F0Cog)
Now, a legitimate complaint is the doubling of fines in "construction zones", then putting vacant work sites up and down the freeway to git you for that.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 12:38 AM (kdS6q)
No shit.
Guy I worked with 20 years ago decided not to pay a speeding ticket. Months later, his license was suspended. One morning on his way home from work, he decided to stop and get a biscuit at Hardees, his car smoked so bad that you could see it coming for miles. A cop was behind him at Hardee's and decided to pull him over to tell him to get it fixed. Cop finds out that his license is suspended, he gets 30 days in jail.
BTW, if he had been pulled over 2 weeks earlier, he would have gotten a warning, but a car dealer's son had been killed by a drunk driving on a suspended license 10 days earlier, so the local cops were cracking down big time.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 29, 2015 12:56 AM (Z7G74)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 12:57 AM (HLx1C)
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 29, 2015 12:58 AM (jT+gh)
Posted by: Our stupid, yet adorable!, dog. at June 29, 2015 12:58 AM (F2IAQ)
The initial ticket the vet got cost like $125 face value, but after all the extra fees and such were added the ticket price jumped to near $400. Now I know everyone here has $400 cash lying around for such an event, but rest assured much of the rest of the country don't. They buy everything on time, and their check is gone as soon as they get it.
So in a month, you don't have the near $400 to pay when due, so then they tack on ANOTHER $375 to that ticket.
aaaand that's when the trouble started...
Yeah, that sounds like a fair and just system to me. But hey what do I know.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 29, 2015 12:58 AM (DblUs)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 29, 2015 12:59 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Mega at June 29, 2015 01:00 AM (9Du4t)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 01:00 AM (HLx1C)
Posted by: Phil at June 29, 2015 12:55 AM (39FGM)
PERFECT! How did I not think of that??
They're about 5 weeks old, that should be just right. They're on our back deck, and are at that optimum cute kitty age where they run all about and are learning to pounce and are in fact climbing the stucco walls of our house..
Then there are the teeny wee dumplings on the front porch, just three weeks and so precious and sweet that you all but die of adorableness when you look at them.
And fat! Is that normal? I am not feeding them at all, they are still nursing.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 01:01 AM (BVDFs)
Have you tried sand or dirt? My best years of my childhood was having my own sandbox and digging cat scat out of it over and over again, so I know kitties love sand.
otherwise there are the wheat-hull based litters. A friend usese SWheat Scoop
http://www.swheatscoop.com/
Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2015 01:01 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 29, 2015 01:02 AM (6qR/9)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:56 AM (BVDFs)
***
I hear ya. Keep your chin up and buckle up. Only thing to do, now.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 01:02 AM (QNcbF)
Milady & I saw the original Blue Man Group, and what a story about how we ended up there. For another night.
Maet, sympathy for that feline-sized hole in your life. Your Kitty looks a whole lot like our old pal Jack, who left us last year, and he was a real people-cat also. It's hard. Got some grit in my eyes.
So, Good Night, Gracies. Partying with my mom's family for her 95th bday has left me no time or brains to read comments, but I'll assume you're all up to no good as usual. God bless alla y'all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up 2 late 4 me at June 29, 2015 01:02 AM (Xh7t/)
Prior to that he would squeeze in among the 5 gallon buckets in the back closet and hide his scat there.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2015 01:03 AM (3pRHP)
My experience is that the dogs will eat what is in the litter, too.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 01:03 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 01:05 AM (CdIQH)
Well duh, another thing that never occurred to me! Thank you!
They're outdoors, probably will remain so, so I do not worry about them peeing on the floors, but we have 12 acres, so dirt is plentiful.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 01:05 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2015 01:06 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 01:06 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: Our stupid, yet adorable!, dog. at June 29, 2015 01:07 AM (F2IAQ)
I suppose it really just tastes like cat food.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 01:07 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2015 01:08 AM (3pRHP)
I have a cat story I've maybe told here before, but I think it's worth sharing again.
We came home from a trip, neighbor was taking care of our 20 yo cat. Wife goes in first and says "Sally is dead"!
I find the cat under the coffee table, cold and not breathing. Go out back and dig a hole to bury her. As I pick her up and get to the back door I hear a gasp.
We decide is the death gasp, air expelling from a dead body. I place her in the grave. When she is laid on the cold ground her legs start to move!
Bring her back in and pet her, she seems to respond, now I can see her breathing.
After a bit I realize it's time to let her go and stop petting her. She died a few minutes later.
It was amazing, my touch brought her back from near death, she was waiting for us. And once I let her go she passed. It was very weird.
Posted by: Farmer at June 29, 2015 12:40 AM (o/90i)
I have attended two human deaths -- my grandfather and the fiancee's mother -- where medicine was not enough to keep someone alive.....but they lived until their loved ones were near.
And, not able to move a muscle and in terrible straits, their loved ones held their hand and said out loud, something like "I'd keep you with me forever, but not at this cost." Moments later, they were gone. These were in ICUs, but there were nurses nearby. There was no medical explanation as to why they lived so long; there was no medical explanation as to when they passed. The two situations were 3000 miles apart, and I was the only person at both.
"It was amazing, my touch brought her back from near death, she was waiting for us. And once I let her go she passed. It was very weird." It happens with people, too -- and is no less weird. But in that weirdness, there is also a sense of wonder and of love.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 01:08 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 01:08 AM (CdIQH)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 01:08 AM (HLx1C)
aaaand that's when the trouble started...
Posted by: GnuBreed
Now now, driving is a privilege and there are base expenses for having a car, and having cash or credit to cover a fine is one of them. In an era of potential $100 fill-ups, having access to a potential fine is prudent. Don't/can't do that? Then live on the edge or get a bus pass.
And the guy in question skipped a court date, let the fines go to collections and so on. Again, not paying what the government wants from you rarely ends well.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 29, 2015 01:09 AM (kdS6q)
who the fuck would order a chicken burrito to begin with?
carnitas, sure. carne asada, of course... al pastor? why not?
but pollo? YGBFSM...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 01:09 AM (I8nxO)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 01:10 AM (HLx1C)
Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2015 01:10 AM (3pRHP)
Ohhhh that is so dear and sweet.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:42 AM
She was the sweetest cat. Just so old and she hung on until we came home. But the bad part is I almost buried her alive!
The good part is I didn't and I can share the power of love in telling this story. She loved us so much she hung to life till we got home and could let her go.
Posted by: Farmer at June 29, 2015 01:11 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Our stupid, yet adorable!, dog. at June 29, 2015 01:12 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Daybrother at June 29, 2015 01:12 AM (hVozd)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:12 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 01:13 AM (BVDFs)
Palak Paneer, Tongue burritos, chicken livers fried up with pepper and served in a flatbread with cheddar and cottage cheese...
Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2015 01:13 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Dave M at June 29, 2015 01:13 AM (Cbzos)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 01:14 AM (HLx1C)
Posted by: Farmer at June 29, 2015 01:11 AM (o/90i)
She wanted to see and feel and smell you one more time.
And now I am all teary.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 01:14 AM (BVDFs)
Posted by: Dave
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Love Wins!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:14 AM (F2IAQ)
***
Yawn....
Post here more than once a pimping day and we can talk.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 01:15 AM (mG3Qj)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 01:15 AM (I8nxO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 01:16 AM (CdIQH)
Posted by: redc1c4
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Everything out-of-doors is intent upon killing you.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:17 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 01:15 AM (I8nxO)
***
Outdoors is trying to kill you.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 01:18 AM (mG3Qj)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 01:21 AM (I8nxO)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 01:21 AM (I8nxO)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 29, 2015 01:22 AM (1brdf)
Posted by: Hank at June 29, 2015 01:23 AM (e2GNw)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 01:24 AM (HLx1C)
I'd assume Kipling's poem works just as well for cats, come to think of it.
Posted by: Bill in TN at June 29, 2015 01:24 AM (3LsBS)
Posted by: speedster
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Just blow into this device, sir...
Posted by: Cop at June 29, 2015 01:24 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 01:25 AM (I8nxO)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 01:25 AM (2XMpf)
Posted by: speedster
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Just blow into this device, sir...
Posted by: Cop at June 29, 2015 01:24 AM (F2IAQ)
Just blow this device, sir.....
Posted by: SF Cop at June 29, 2015 01:25 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2015 01:25 AM (NPofj)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 01:26 AM (HLx1C)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:27 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 28, 2015 11:50 PM (dvuhZ)
I read last week that they are holding newborns hostage in the hospital until their parents cough up the cash to pay the maternity ward bill.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2015 01:27 AM (NPofj)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 01:27 AM (HLx1C)
You almost fell off a 10' bladder???
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 29, 2015 01:22 AM (1brdf)<<<
Call Greg!
Posted by: the Drunk D.A. at June 29, 2015 01:28 AM (9iL4y)
/inebriated moron
Posted by: Butch
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Cop fires warning shot to forehead.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:28 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 29, 2015 01:28 AM (1brdf)
Posted by: speedster
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Used to. The Bosch picked up the tab.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:29 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: speedster1 on the ipad at June 29, 2015 01:30 AM (1brdf)
Currently 57 deg. here. Low 50's by morning.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:27 AM (F2IAQ)
What's your elev. approx.?
Posted by: BignJames at June 29, 2015 01:30 AM (j7iSn)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:30 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Butch at June 29, 2015 01:31 AM (HLx1C)
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 29, 2015 01:31 AM (jT+gh)
Posted by: BignJames
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They keep dragging me back in...
Not to high ~3000'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:31 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2015 01:27 AM (NPofj)
To be fair, the children to belong to the community...
Posted by: Melissa Harris-Perry at June 29, 2015 01:33 AM (7YlUk)
Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2015 01:27 AM (NPofj)
The parents can just wait until they put the repossessed baby up for auction and then get it back cheaper.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 29, 2015 01:34 AM (MYSVz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 29, 2015 01:31 AM (F2IAQ)
It's 66 here....about 900' and 60 miles south.....might hit 60...but doubtful.
Posted by: BignJames at June 29, 2015 01:35 AM (j7iSn)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 29, 2015 01:36 AM (TF10X)
I keep reading that you shouldn't use actual litter for fear
they'll eat it. Right now they use old sheets, but things have reached a
crisis point.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 29, 2015 12:52 AM (BVDFs)
Clay litter is not harmful to baby kittahs but if you want to litter train them, I would start with a container that is short enough for them to get into (a regular litter pan is like Mt. Everest when your legs are only four or five inches long)
Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2015 01:37 AM (NPofj)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 29, 2015 01:36 AM (TF10X)
***
Bonk bonk on the head.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 01:37 AM (QNcbF)
Then we should get mean.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at June 29, 2015 01:39 AM (ukTrJ)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 29, 2015 01:34 AM (MYSVz)
LOL... When your economy is failing, looking for bargains is the only responsible thing to do.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2015 01:39 AM (NPofj)
Posted by: Russell Brand at June 29, 2015 01:41 AM (6qR/9)
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 29, 2015 01:43 AM (jT+gh)
they both absorb neutralize well, but the pine breaks down, whereas the paper ones don't.
together they w*rk better than either one separately, and the paper one keeps the pine dust from tracking around the house.
we has 4 house kittehs, and two boxes, so we have a lot of waste to deal with.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 01:43 AM (I8nxO)
Then we should get mean.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at June 29, 2015 01:39 AM (ukTrJ)
Turnabout is fair play.
Posted by: The Punishin' Hat at June 29, 2015 01:43 AM (7YlUk)
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 29, 2015 01:43 AM (jT+gh)
***
Sure. Having lotso cash has always been a good alternative.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 01:44 AM (mG3Qj)
And, not able to move a muscle and in terrible straits, their loved ones held their hand and said out loud, something like "I'd keep you with me forever, but not at this cost." Moments later, they were gone.
"It was amazing, my touch brought her back from near death, she was waiting for us. And once I let her go she passed. It was very weird."
It happens with people, too -- and is no less weird. But in that weirdness, there is also a sense of wonder and of love. Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 01:08 AM
I had a similar experience w/ my maternal Grandmother. She had a stroke, I was there maybe three days later.
She didn't react to anything but when I held her hand and told her I had on my hand the ring she gave me on my HS graduation she reacted.
It's tough losing these people, but it's just because they were so fantastic in contributing towards your life.
Posted by: Farmer at June 29, 2015 01:47 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 29, 2015 01:43 AM (jT+gh)
Not if you get hit by a car.....but if you've blown off Obamascam and discover you have cancer -- simply move to another state and enroll. They can't deny you for your pre-existing condition, and you clan clearly enroll in a gold plan since you're a new citizen.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 01:48 AM (EzgxV)
http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/12/ what-youll-see-in-the-rebellion/
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 01:51 AM (I8nxO)
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 29, 2015 01:43 AM (jT+gh)
Yes. Apparently asset forfeiture.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 29, 2015 01:52 AM (3pRHP)
I'd say we're hosed.
Posted by: Sam Adams at June 29, 2015 01:54 AM (R8h28)
Posted by: =/= derit =/= at June 29, 2015 01:43 AM (jT+gh)
Savings or barter.... I will also pass on a tip from when I was uninsured. Treat medical care like any other purchase and compare prices by calling at least three doctors that can provide the service you need (when you can as this obviously won't work in an emergency). Most doctors will offer a discount for same day cash payment for services of between a third and half off of their normal prices. In an emergency, get the hospital care you need and then call the billing office afterward to see if they can offer you the same discount they would give an insurance company and to make arrangements to pay the bill in small monthly increments.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2015 01:54 AM (NPofj)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 01:18 AM (mG3Qj)
I've noticed that. Are you in N IL?
Mosquitos are killing us here!
Posted by: Farmer at June 29, 2015 01:56 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 29, 2015 01:57 AM (fYgrm)
That's awesome.
-_-
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 29, 2015 01:58 AM (CFcIt)
Mosquitos are killing us here!
Posted by: Farmer at June 29, 2015 01:56 AM (o/90i)
***
Not now, but grew up around there. Been in a free State for a long time now.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 29, 2015 01:59 AM (QNcbF)
Those of you who have been identified in the Target data breach, or the Anthem data breach, or the Federal data breach, who were offered "two years of data breach security".
Ever notice what "data breach security" looks like? It looks an awful lot like putting your private data all together in one spot and trusting some "authority" to work in your best interests. Funny how often that is just fine.....
Gold, silver, brass, and lead. And we need fewer "data breach security" companies and more handshakes in banks.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 02:03 AM (EzgxV)
Think of how farcical even the great system of govt. becomes when people of mediocre intelligence, weak character, and bad faith are in key positions.
Roberts beclowned the court and made a mockery of federal tax law in his first desperate effort to save a disastrously counter-productive unconstitutional program- then in even greater desperation the second time, tips the court over into parody territory with an orwellian (and comically unpersuasive and dumb) annihilation of accepted statutory construction. Not mention of logic itself.
One person has mandated a destructive, idiotic scheme cooked up by arrogant half-wits on the entire US population. One person.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 02:05 AM (QDnY+)
There is a faith-based medical cooperative that's out there.
http://www.chministries.org/
and
http://samaritanministries.org/join/
Samaritan looks easier to join and maintain. Here's a comparison:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nwdgbgf
This should give you alternatives to having to deal with insurance.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at June 29, 2015 02:07 AM (ukTrJ)
For now.
You may safely expect that they'll be coming for those just as they're coming for the churches.
What was it that Italian fellow said?
"Everything for the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State."
Well, when the State puts itself into health care, it's not going to brook competing alternatives for long.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 29, 2015 02:17 AM (noWW6)
But torque, the "law" (giggle) specifically exempted these kinds of religious-based ..... er, wait.
Never mind. You're probably right.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 02:19 AM (QDnY+)
But you never get to see the real cost of the procedure, because it's billed at inflated rates to your insurance company, who has negotiated a lowered rate, and they're covering most of it, so your copayment is only $220.
Look at that again. If you were paying cash in a free market, it'd be $200.....buy you're paying a small proportion of a fraudulent price, so $220 looks good. And, BTW, you really got a great value from that $800/month insurance payment you're making.
The numbers are so ludicrous as to be insulting. The fact is that America would be immensely better off -- to the tune of possibly trillions of dollars -- if the Federal government would exit healthcare altogether and allow free markets to reach equilibrium.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 02:33 AM (EzgxV)
fact is that America would be immensely better off -- to the tune of
possibly trillions of dollars -- if the Federal government would exit
healthcare altogether and allow free markets to reach equilibrium.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 02:33 AM (EzgxV)
So true.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2015 02:40 AM (NPofj)
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 02:48 AM (2gDQR)
Now I hope that I will get a form of fast-acting cancer - because then I could take revenge on the Vichy Government that I hate. I could help sap its reserves and puke all over its smug social workers' desks. And scream in agony into their ears enough to make them hate their lives and their values.
I live now to see revenge taken; I hope for pain and filth and hatred.
Thanks Obama. You c*(ksucking son of a communist prostitute, you killed America and now I'm living in an Occupied Nation, a Collaborationist's Puppet State, the Pit of The False Prophet and His Gay Orchestra.
I wish I could hope again for American things, but instead I wish for disease and death.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at June 29, 2015 02:49 AM (ukTrJ)
ctulhu amen times a zillion.
Yes, so many (most?) of themeat puppets around us - can hardly call them fellow citizens any more - are economically illiterate (this incl. "educated" and even successful people). They haven't given it a minute's thought.
When I had a routine but biggish screening test we all do at a certain age a few years ago, I decided to pay cash (thanks be to the deity, excellent health/genes etc, have always had high-deducticle catastrophic-type insurance, raised by a physician father to avoide "medicine" if possible and aside from sports injuries have done so, completely).
Took nearly an hour for the hospital to figure out what they would bill me. I asked for their lowest insurance rate. I asked the very nice woman struggling - and a bit embarrassed to be doing so - with this problem- "can you think of any other transaction you are ever part of where nobody knows the price? A plumber doing a repair call? Fixing a dented fender? A hair styling?" She actually got it - she said no, and that's bizarre.
So even back when I could (fairly easily) afford decent PPO "insurance" (haven't been able to since January 2014, by coincidence I guess), I have wondered how much "insurance" there was in the cost. I figure the actuarial cost + 3% profit (typical in the industry) for me was probably less than half of what I paid back then. The economic impact of a normal health care market (to incl. the financial aspects) would be gigantic (to the upside). The opposite, which we've been living and has now been made much worse, will have a similar impact in the other direction. But almost nobody understands how - and why - bad it was before, and will become. Frogs don't feel the water temp.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 02:52 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 02:52 AM (2gDQR)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 02:33 AM (EzgxV)
My mother recently dislocated and broke her arm. The insurance plan she was forced on basically told her the nearest doctor she could see that they'd help pay for was in something like 70 or so miles away in another county.
Thankfully she can pay out of pocket, though the unplanned expenses won't have repercussions.
I was in a similar situation with a follow-up to an emergency room visit.
Obamacare = paying out of pocket for real medical attention.
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 29, 2015 02:58 AM (7YlUk)
Completely true.
-- if the Federal government would exit healthcare altogether and allow free markets to reach equilibrium.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 02:33 AM (EzgxV)
...and there is only one way of convincing almost 70 percent of this stupid nation of that.
Collapse.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 29, 2015 02:58 AM (CFcIt)
Posted by: 'neath the halo of a streetlamp at June 29, 2015 02:58 AM (z7WDr)
ctulhu amen times a zillion.
Yes, so many (most?) of themeat puppets around us - can hardly call them fellow citizens any more - are economically illiterate (this incl. "educated" and even successful people). They haven't given it a minute's thought.
When I had a routine but biggish screening test we all do at a certain age a few years ago, I decided to pay cash (thanks be to the deity, excellent health/genes etc, have always had high-deducticle catastrophic-type insurance, raised by a physician father to avoide "medicine" if possible and aside from sports injuries have done so, completely).
Took nearly an hour for the hospital to figure out what they would bill me. I asked for their lowest insurance rate. I asked the very nice woman struggling - and a bit embarrassed to be doing so - with this problem- "can you think of any other transaction you are ever part of where nobody knows the price? A plumber doing a repair call? Fixing a dented fender? A hair styling?" She actually got it - she said no, and that's bizarre.
So even back when I could (fairly easily) afford decent PPO "insurance" (haven't been able to since January 2014, by coincidence I guess), I have wondered how much "insurance" there was in the cost. I figure the actuarial cost + 3% profit (typical in the industry) for me was probably less than half of what I paid back then. The economic impact of a normal health care market (to incl. the financial aspects) would be gigantic (to the upside). The opposite, which we've been living and has now been made much worse, will have a similar impact in the other direction. But almost nobody understands how - and why - bad it was before, and will become. Frogs don't feel the water temp.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 02:52 AM (QDnY+)
It's all about the shell and the pea -- then forcing you to need government to discern activities and price; then requiring insurance to discern out-of-pocket......by the time you pay for services you get, you have no idea what they cost.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 02:58 AM (EzgxV)
nobody knows the price? A plumber doing a repair call? Fixing a dented
fender? A hair styling?"
There actually are a few small surgical hospitals left in America that will quote you a flat cash price up front. They will no doubt face massive federal pressure to "harmonize" their operations with the rest of the industry.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 29, 2015 03:00 AM (noWW6)
If you were paying cash in a free market, it'd be $200.....buy you're paying a small proportion of a fraudulent price, so $220 looks good. And, BTW, you really got a great value from that $800/month insurance payment you're making.
In fact, it just might be worse.
I had a yearly checkup at my dermatologist 2 months ago, and made it quite clear that I wanted to pay cash, AND wanted to avoid insurance (Anthem, which I cancelled in November 2013)
The cash price was $120.00; No Trouble Found.
A month later, I get a notice from Anthem ... why? ... they aren't covering any of the visit (ok), but I owe $135.00. Why do they still have my name and account?
I exchanged calls, actually messages, with the dermatologist's umbrella company ... and finally went back to the office last week, to clear everything up. They were sure that I had paid in full while I was there. Someone at corporate had "assumed" ... I had them annotate my account ... Anthem is no longer my insurer (and hasn't been since November 2013). I think we're square.
Why did Anthem still have my name and account?
Enquiring Minds Want To Know.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 29, 2015 03:01 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 02:58 AM (EzgxV)
Exactly. And no one can convince me that that was not by design.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 29, 2015 03:03 AM (CFcIt)
Posted by: enterprising ChiCom hacker at June 29, 2015 03:03 AM (z7WDr)
If you were paying cash in a free market, it'd be $200.....buy you're paying a small proportion of a fraudulent price, so $220 looks good. And, BTW, you really got a great value from that $800/month insurance payment you're making.
In fact, it just might be worse.
I had a yearly checkup at my dermatologist 2 months ago, and made it quite clear that I wanted to pay cash, AND wanted to avoid insurance (Anthem, which I cancelled in November 2013)
The cash price was $120.00; No Trouble Found.
A month later, I get a notice from Anthem ... why? ... they aren't covering any of the visit (ok), but I owe $135.00. Why do they still have my name and account?
I exchanged calls, actually messages, with the dermatologist's umbrella company ... and finally went back to the office last week, to clear everything up. They were sure that I had paid in full while I was there. Someone at corporate had "assumed" ... I had them annotate my account ... Anthem is no longer my insurer (and hasn't been since November 2013). I think we're square.
Why did Anthem still have my name and account?
Enquiring Minds Want To Know.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 29, 2015 03:01 AM (FlRtG)
The Devil's bargain that all the insurance companies signed up for was that Obamacare would take a smidge of their business but force everyone to buy in. That hasn't worked out so well -- people's reaction is to opt out and negotiate cash. I'm so pissed at anyone involved with Obamacare [AARP, various insurance] that I'll actually boycott their asses. If I get some nasty lingering cancerish horror, I'll move to another state for treatment -- if I have a splinter, I'll pay cash. But the insurance conglomerates can go fuck themselves.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 03:07 AM (EzgxV)
Check the cost curves for medical areas with little to no insurance (elective cosmetic surgery and dermatology, etc.). Flat. Hmmm. Darndest thing.
Recall, ten thousand years ago (2008/9?), when some major corporations did what they could to reduce the needless financial waste (Von's/Safeway? One CEO did a WSJ op-ed on it). Reimbursement for costs for most minor things, employees encouraged to price shop. Rational, minimal self-insurance (company working with insurance company) for the larger stuff. I believe this company (ies) had experienced an abrupt end to rising medical costs, commencing immediately. And that was working *within* the artificially mangled medical finance system, overall.
Really gotta go, but I can never view the country the same way again. The economic illiteracy and lack of common sense that makes this O-care catastrophe - almost the exact opposite of everything that needed to be done - possible. And USMC, I think you're wrong - in the sense that "collapse" will not guarantee improvement.
Learning curve is flat.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 03:08 AM (QDnY+)
I've come to talk with you again
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 03:10 AM (ozpxp)
for your own good, of course...
you ungrateful bastage.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 03:12 AM (lsWof)
408 cthulhu
The Devil's bargain ... etc. etc.
Why did Anthem still have my information ... 15 months after I bailed on them? 12 months I could understand, maybe ... there might be delayed bills that they are liable for (there have NEVER been any in my case).
But 15 months ... I suspect there might be some sort of "expectation" on their part ... that they will somehow be able to get a slice of my payments, benefits, subsidies, etc.
I wonder about the legality of their retention of my information.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 29, 2015 03:12 AM (FlRtG)
Yo, homeslice, why are you looking at me?
Posted by: enterprising ChiCom hacker at June 29, 2015 03:03 AM (z7WDr)
So they could push you into credit management services so when the fascist state decided to roll-up your assets they would only need to look in one place.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 03:16 AM (EzgxV)
but they might start looking at you instead, since you don't have an insurance policy.
(for your own good again %-)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 03:16 AM (lsWof)
They are not helping by staying in DC.
All they are doing is propping up the Democrat-Republican Alliance Party.
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 03:16 AM (MQEz6)
How YOU doin'?
Posted by: Molly's Hat at June 29, 2015 03:17 AM (ozpxp)
It is best to get it over with.
Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 03:18 AM (MQEz6)
408 cthulhu
The Devil's bargain ... etc. etc.
Why did Anthem still have my information ... 15 months after I bailed on them? 12 months I could understand, maybe ... there might be delayed bills that they are liable for (there have NEVER been any in my case).
But 15 months ... I suspect there might be some sort of "expectation" on their part ... that they will somehow be able to get a slice of my payments, benefits, subsidies, etc.
I wonder about the legality of their retention of my information.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 29, 2015 03:12 AM (FlRtG)
Whether you live or die or suffer is immaterial. They want dominion over you. They want to know your secrets and your inflection points. They want total control. Doctor/patient privilege means less than nothing; HIPAA is a sad joke. Obamacare makes you a wholly owned slave to The State -- it should be no surprise that the Dems enacted it and the GOPe want it to stay.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 29, 2015 03:24 AM (EzgxV)
A married couple, Bob and Neal, decide to have a child. They contract with their friend, Vanna, to rent her uterus
for nine months.
Neal pays Vanna $10,000. In the contract she waives any
claims to her baby.
At the IVF clinic, Bob masturbates into a little cup. A doctor unites his sperm with one of Vanna's eggs, and implants the zygote into her uterus.
Nine months later, Vanna gives birth to a little girl, Susie. Vanna is filled with love for Susie and decides to keep
her.
Bob and Neal have a huge fight, and Neal moves into a shelter for battered men.
Bob sues for custody of Susie, and sues both Neal and Vanna for child support.
Neal sues for custody of Susie, and sues Bob for child support, and sues Vanna for child support and breach of
contract.
Vanna sues for custody of Susie, and sues Bob and Neal for child support.
Discuss!
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 03:24 AM (ozpxp)
Posted by: goon at June 29, 2015 03:25 AM (gy5kE)
Learning curve is flat.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 03:08 AM (QDnY+)
On further review, you're right.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 29, 2015 03:30 AM (CFcIt)
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 03:24 AM (ozpxp)
Take Susie away from those nutballs and let her be adopted by a married couple consisting of a man and a woman.
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 29, 2015 03:34 AM (7YlUk)
Take Susie away from those nutballs and let her be adopted by a married couple consisting of a man and a woman.
A+
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 03:36 AM (ozpxp)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 03:39 AM (jMMCO)
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 03:40 AM (ozpxp)
So they could push you into credit management services ...
Is this a bunch of annoying phone calls, a monthly charge to my credit cards (that I will have to fight every month) or a forced deduction from my bank account?
Posted by: Arbalest at June 29, 2015 03:42 AM (FlRtG)
Neal sues for custody of Susie, and sues Bob for child support, and sues Vanna for child support and breach of
contract.
Vanna sues for custody of Susie, and sues Bob and Neal for child support.
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 03:24 AM (ozpxp)
King Solomon: I will cut Susie in three and you can each have her.
Bob: I want the head.
Neal: NO! I'm getting the head ... and the right arm.
Vanna: You can't have the right arm. That right arm reminds me of my grandmother.
Bob: Neal, if it's the last thing I do you will not get Susie's head. You can have her left leg, though.
Neal: Sure ... the leg. Who wants a leg?
King Solomon: Er ... This isn't the way it's supposed to work, you worthless freaks. I've changed my mind and decided to cut each of you into thirds, for the good of society.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 29, 2015 03:45 AM (MYSVz)
I wonder about the legality of their retention of my information.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 29, 2015 03:12 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: ***cough*** at June 29, 2015 03:45 AM (ozpxp)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 29, 2015 03:45 AM (MYSVz)
Alternatively:
*blam*
*blam*
*blam*
"I'll give you a proper home little Susie"
Posted by: Judge Dredd at June 29, 2015 03:47 AM (7YlUk)
Posted by: ***cough*** at June 29, 2015 03:47 AM (ozpxp)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 29, 2015 03:12 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: ***cough*** at June 29, 2015 03:45 AM (ozpxp)
Shut up, serf.
Posted by: Your New Technocratic Nobility at June 29, 2015 03:48 AM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Little Susie, Woken Up & Everything ... at June 29, 2015 03:54 AM (nSOh+)
-Subotai Bahadur
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 04:10 AM (ozpxp)
-Buddy Larson
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 04:13 AM (ozpxp)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 04:19 AM (jMMCO)
Posted by: Molly at June 29, 2015 04:21 AM (ozpxp)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 04:23 AM (I8nxO)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 04:19 AM (jMMCO)
I'm not so sure. They'll have plenty of grievance mobs who're happy to bust head in addition to Silicon Valley who will jizz their pants over helping to stop H8rz...
Posted by: The Pessimistic Hat at June 29, 2015 04:24 AM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Wally at June 29, 2015 04:27 AM (ozpxp)
Posted by: Wally at June 29, 2015 04:27 AM (ozpxp)
Pi = 4
Posted by: SCOTUS at June 29, 2015 04:29 AM (7YlUk)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 29, 2015 04:23 AM (I8nxO)
You assume that isn't by design...
Posted by: The Plannin' Hat at June 29, 2015 04:29 AM (7YlUk)
Posted by: BignJames at June 29, 2015 04:31 AM (j7iSn)
Posted by: BignJames at June 29, 2015 04:31 AM (j7iSn)
Militias... or H8rz... or because the Kardashians said it was totes cool...
Posted by: LIV at June 29, 2015 04:33 AM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Wally at June 29, 2015 04:27 AM (ozpxp)
"If you vote against my bill then you are supporting irrationality!!" -- Rep A. Douche
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 29, 2015 04:38 AM (MYSVz)
Posted by: BignJames at June 29, 2015 04:38 AM (j7iSn)
I guess I live a sheltered life, reading here and at NSF.com.
Is there some kind of rule that commenters at regular media sites have to be ignorant drooling imbeciles?
Posted by: rickl at June 29, 2015 04:41 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 29, 2015 04:58 AM (7YlUk)
Yes.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 05:39 AM (C8x6r)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 29, 2015 06:00 AM (VPLuQ)
I'll be referring to participants only as "legally defined spouses", worse if I know my company at the time is down for the cause.
Posted by: Mister John Galt at June 29, 2015 06:02 AM (RR2Xj)
Note if you are heavily invested in the Euro. It lost about 2% against the Dollar earlier this morning.
Not in Greece if you wondering what kind of Cash you will be using after July 5.
I still say Frau Merkel, the former east german communist, masquerading as a Conservative, will cave. Plenty of time left.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 06:12 AM (C8x6r)
Ooh, I'm a bottom jumper.
Good morning all. A fresh week of rape-shifting and persecution.
Oh joy. Now where's the friggin' morning thread?!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:15 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 06:17 AM (2XMpf)
"If we take matrimony at it's lowest, we regard it as a sort of friendship recognized by the police."
- - Robert Louis Stevenson
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:19 AM (St6BJ)
how is everyone else doing this morning?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 06:17 AM (2XMpf)
Ain't you got any chem for that, Jeff?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:19 AM (St6BJ)
I raised this question the other day.
Do businesses make it that besides the employee, the only others to receive benefits are legally married spouses, and the children of the marriage partners?
Steady girl friend?
No benefits
Room mate?
No benefits
Civil partner?
No benefits.
State marriage license?
Benefits
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 29, 2015 06:19 AM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:19 AM (St6BJ)
yeah, caffeine. it's slowly working
Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 06:21 AM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 06:21 AM (C8x6r)
The homos already can get domestic partnerships with the full weight and bearing of marriage in probably every state.
But that was not the objective. The objective is to destroy the family unit, destroy G-d and make the supreme entity in everyone's life The State.
And you will be made to kneel before it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:22 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:19 AM (St6BJ)
yeah, caffeine. it's slowly working
Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 06:21 AM (2XMpf)
Weird is that I'm finding that as I slouch towards decrepitude, the most sleep-inducing time of day is about a half hour before I have to get up. Sometimes I make a cup of coffee around 4:30AM and within a half hour, I can barely keep my eyes open. Best, if not shortest sleep ever!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:24 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 06:21 AM (C8x6r)
Like health insurance, right?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:25 AM (St6BJ)
Will President Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst bestir himself from a round of golf to say Turkey acted stupidly?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 29, 2015 06:28 AM (4fj37)
At the risk of seeming like a brat...
I hate my job. I dread going to work. Except I like the actual work I do. I just hate my job.
And, I don't know that finding a new job would help. I am introverted, and I really just don't like being around people. And, I am not a fan of the structure of work hours.
I am a good worker, don't get me wrong. If someone said, "Here is your project. You have 40 hours this week, any 40 hours you choose, to get it done." I would be good as gold. But, to work within the confines of a 8-5 workday, around people....it just drives me batty.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 29, 2015 06:30 AM (adaac)
Will President Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst bestir himself from a round of golf to say Turkey acted stupidly?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 29, 2015 06:28 AM (4fj37)
Whoever participated, they got some serious brass balls. I imagine they were not Turks as the locals know better.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:31 AM (St6BJ)
If you quit, I know about 93,000,000 people who you can hang out with.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:32 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 29, 2015 06:32 AM (4fj37)
Weird is that I'm finding that as I slouch
towards decrepitude, the most sleep-inducing time of day is about a half
hour before I have to get up. Sometimes I make a cup of coffee around
4:30AM and within a half hour, I can barely keep my eyes open. Best, if
not shortest sleep ever!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 06:24 AM (St6BJ)
Yeah sometimes it is the same with me, I will drink coffee and then get tired. and I looked it up, and there is actually a point where you can drink too much caffeine, and if that happens, you get sleepy.
But this time it was because I had tons of cr*p that I have to do today, plus, smoke alarm beeped saying battery was low, so that woke me up
Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 06:36 AM (2XMpf)
That's the thing. I hate to seem ungrateful, because I am very lucky to have a job at all.
I just don't know that I am a traditional workplace kind of person.
But, I don't know if this is a "suck it up, Buttercup" situation where that's life, you do what you gotta do.
Or, if it shortens my life by being unhappy and stressed all the time. Is it really worth it? Ugh.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 29, 2015 06:36 AM (adaac)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 29, 2015 06:39 AM (4fj37)
Couldn't sleep so I came in to work early to get some work done. Somebody has to support that FSA I guess.
I see they got Sweat. That's some good news amidst the DOOM.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 29, 2015 06:43 AM (7ObY1)
No it is not worth it. If you can survive outside it, do it.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 06:43 AM (C8x6r)
Lots of places will allow you to work from home nowadays, maybe that is something your boss will let you do.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 06:45 AM (2XMpf)
Take Susie away from those nutballs and let her be the 7th child bride of that new imam down the street.
Posted by: Agent J at June 29, 2015 06:46 AM (ueOgE)
Posted by: Ruth at June 29, 2015 06:51 AM (oo88B)
Nope, long story.
But, maybe I will be able to find a job out there that will allow that flexibility.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 29, 2015 06:53 AM (adaac)
and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave... there will be
some jihadists of the Islamic State, too." Panos Kammenos, Defense
Minister of Greece
Blackmail? Extortion? Threatening violence if you don't get your way?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 06:55 AM (6yehy)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 06:58 AM (GoyxN)
Posted by: MTF at June 29, 2015 07:04 AM (DkJ4E)
Need moar range time. They shot him twice and he lived.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 29, 2015 07:09 AM (ITu74)
Posted by: Ruth at June 29, 2015 07:10 AM (oo88B)
I can help him out here, and direct him to Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States, where Treason is plainly defined so that even the most idiotic or crazed among us can understand. He should be able to see the answer to his question there.
Posted by: MTF at June 29, 2015 07:13 AM (DkJ4E)
They should consider themselves lucky that it was just water cannons and not a whiff of grape......
Posted by: rickb223 at June 29, 2015 07:13 AM (ITu74)
Posted by: TickledPink at June 29, 2015 07:14 AM (adaac)
3, Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States, where Treason is
plainly defined so that even the most idiotic or crazed among us can
understand. He should be able to see the answer to his question there.
Posted by: MTF at June 29, 2015 07:13 AM
If he actually read that, and applied the Awesome Reasoning Skillz that got him his gig at that Prestigious Website, he'd have to conclude that the only people who meet the standard as full-on traitors are Choom Boy, John F'n Kerry and a couple of the lesser myrmidons within the regime.
He'd have a Sad for sure....
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:17 AM (P8YHq)
the Constitution of the United States, where Treason is plainly defined
so that even the most idiotic or crazed among us can understand.
Treason has been redefined.
Dissent, patriotic yesterday, is treason today.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 29, 2015 07:17 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 07:19 AM (2XMpf)
Fidel Castro and Zombie Joe Stalin have to be jealous as hell. We don't need our very own tyrant to crush dissent with armed thugs -- the people are doing it all on their own.
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:21 AM (P8YHq)
Myrmidons. Add that one to catamites and cloaca of words I learned nowhere else but here.
And . . . Good morning!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:24 AM (St6BJ)
I now declare that the Constitution guarantees me free blow jobs for life.
On your knees, bitches!
Posted by: John Roberts, Ruler of the World at June 29, 2015 07:25 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:26 AM (St6BJ)
I now declare that the Constitution guarantees me free blow jobs for life.
On your knees, bitches!
Posted by: John Roberts, Ruler of the World at June 29, 2015 07:25 AM (YFw5T)
(**scrounges for tweezers and scanning tunneling electron microscope**)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:27 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 29, 2015 07:28 AM (ITu74)
Don't think I'll be posting this week. The last week was just too damned depressing and I'd rather not be confronted with daily reminders that I am now a criminal in my own country.
I'll leave you with this: during an interview, Groucho Marx was asked, "You revolutionized verbal comedy and Harpo was a master of pantomime. What did Chico ever contribute?"
Groucho answered, "Chico introduced gonorrhea to the Orpheum vaudeville circuit."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 29, 2015 07:28 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Kink Barack al-Hussein Zoobama at June 29, 2015 07:29 AM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: King Barack al-Hussein Zoobama at June 29, 2015 07:29 AM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:24 AM
And a Good Morning to you!
As for "myrmidon:" My vocabulary is peppered with archaic and generally useless words. I use them, because I, too, am archaic and useless....
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:30 AM (P8YHq)
Posted by: f'd at June 29, 2015 07:30 AM (BO/km)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:30 AM (VcOqI)
Ah, a professionally 'gay' writer.
They always make the best fascists.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 29, 2015 07:31 AM (oVJmc)
Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, June 29, 2015. On this day in 1956 the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 was signed, officially creating the United States Interstate Highway System. Eisenhower thought this law was probably unconstitutional but he had pressed for it. This was one major boondoggle from the government that I didn't think was unconstitutional because the Constitution provides for "post roads" which this could easily be said fell under that article.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:32 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Gem at June 29, 2015 07:32 AM (c+gwp)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:32 AM (VcOqI)
http://fxn.ws/1NnZ8MW
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:32 AM (GpgJl)
http://fxn.ws/1g0UGc1
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:32 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 29, 2015 07:32 AM (baR5c)
http://fxn.ws/1Lw2I8U
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:33 AM (GpgJl)
http://fxn.ws/1Kpgzys
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:33 AM (GpgJl)
http://ti.me/1LDsR6G
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:33 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 29, 2015 07:33 AM (nRvEn)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:33 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Weasel at June 29, 2015 07:33 AM (6xtq3)
http://politi.co/1HlzU2O
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:33 AM (GpgJl)
Hermann Sasse, What Is the State?1932
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 29, 2015 07:34 AM (nRvEn)
http://bit.ly/1Hro7jG
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:34 AM (GpgJl)
http://bit.ly/1Lx9HhQ
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:34 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 29, 2015 07:34 AM (YFw5T)
does deter capital crime if it is implemented fairly and carried out
swiftly. NY did neither. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:32 AM
When the death penalty is used, the recidivism rate drops faster than Choom Boy's alleged "unemployment" rate.
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:34 AM (P8YHq)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:34 AM (GpgJl)
http://bit.ly/1KjDLfX
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:34 AM (GpgJl)
http://bit.ly/1LxrxkJ
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:35 AM (GpgJl)
http://bit.ly/1BPZpXC
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:35 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:35 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:35 AM (GpgJl)
http://washex.am/1HrrJ5e
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:36 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:36 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:36 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:36 AM (VcOqI)
http://dailysign.al/1NsJtLU
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:36 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:37 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:37 AM (VcOqI)
http://bit.ly/1NsEZoz
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:34 AM (GpgJl)
It's all kabuki. They'll fold.
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 29, 2015 07:38 AM (nRvEn)
**cough** California
Posted by: rickb223 at June 29, 2015 07:38 AM (ITu74)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:39 AM (VcOqI)
There is zero chance that Ex-Im won't be continued.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 29, 2015 07:39 AM (YFw5T)
Trey Gowdy issued an ultimatum to Horseface yesterday. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:36 AM
Wow! I'll bet Lurch is shakin' in his boots!
And mooochos graciass for teh Nooz, Vic!
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:39 AM (P8YHq)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:40 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:40 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:41 AM (VcOqI)
Greece is not the only one with debt that can not be paid without severe
sacrifice. Puerto Rico is swimming in debt that can not be paid after
years of socialist policies and negative spending.
**cough** California
Posted by: rickb223 at June 29, 2015 07:38 AM (ITu74)
Obama bailed them out a few years ago. However, since they are still spending like mad he must be bailing them out under the table illegally now.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:42 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:42 AM (P8YHq)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 29, 2015 07:42 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: Khalid el Browncowski at June 29, 2015 07:43 AM (7LHHt)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:43 AM (St6BJ)
What if they had an election and no one came?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 29, 2015 07:43 AM (YFw5T)
Will President Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst bestir himself from a round of golf to say Turkey acted stupidly?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 29, 2015 06:28 AM (4fj37)
Prezzy Gutsy Call will say nothing. Because Muslim.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2015 07:44 AM (DiZBp)
What happens to all the federal employees who 'work' at the EX-IM bank? They show up to work everyday, do nothing, and get paid?
Posted by: Khalid el Browncowski at June 29, 2015 07:43 AM (7LHHt)
Legally they have to sit at home unpaid. But them being federal employees I doubt if that will happen despite it being a violation of law.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:44 AM (GpgJl)
What if they had an election and no one came?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 29, 2015 07:43 AM (YFw5T)
Jeb or Krispy Kreosote or any other GOP shill insures me staying at home come November of 2016.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:44 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 29, 2015 07:43 AM
What if "they" don't have an election and no one complains?
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:45 AM (P8YHq)
Will President Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst bestir himself from a round of golf to say Turkey acted stupidly?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 29, 2015 06:28 AM (4fj37)
Prezzy Gutsy Call will say nothing. Because Muslim.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2015 07:44 AM (DiZBp)
Second look at diner kebabs?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:45 AM (St6BJ)
The Church, apparently, will not give the gays the word "marriage."
I will do the same.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 29, 2015 07:46 AM (baR5c)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 29, 2015 07:46 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Agent J at June 29, 2015 07:46 AM (ueOgE)
What does their unfunded liabilities look like?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 29, 2015 07:46 AM (ITu74)
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:45 AM (P8YHq)
You know, I've wondered about that. But thinking that there won't be an election is probably thoughtcrime, so of course I would never think it.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 29, 2015 07:46 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:46 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:45 AM (P8YHq)
Second look at Reichstag fire?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:47 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:47 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:48 AM (VcOqI)
But as one news story I linked to a while back said, Boeing had enough promised graft already to go decades. But that raises another question, do they still get their "promised" graft if there is no longer a bank there to give it?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:48 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:48 AM (VcOqI)
What happens when an overwhelming numerical majority is the minority?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:49 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:47 AM
Marinus van der Lubbe unavailable for comment.
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:49 AM (P8YHq)
DONER kebabs, nod diner.
Sheesh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:47 AM (St6BJ)
NOT!!! not nod!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:50 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2015 07:50 AM (go5uR)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:50 AM (VcOqI)
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:49 AM (P8YHq)
Now I have to look up that name, although on quick reading I see "anus" and "lube."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:50 AM (St6BJ)
:-)
...if the kabob tent had a big pic of Mary & a crucifix then they'd have my business!
Posted by: Ruth at June 29, 2015 07:51 AM (oo88B)
HAL, shouldn't it be something like, "These conversations can no longer serve any useful purpose?"
Posted by: Dave Bowman at June 29, 2015 07:51 AM (ueOgE)
I could probably pull the lever for Rubio or Walker, happily pull it for Cruz or Perry, but Christie or Bush? Nope.
I'll get hammered instead.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:51 AM (Zu3d9)
That's a reasonable response. Personally, I hope churches also begin counseling their members to forgo secular marriage altogether. Obtaining a marriage license could become a simple matter of expediency akin to how you arrange your 401K. Get a license if it puts money in your pocket, but that's the only consideration.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 29, 2015 07:52 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:52 AM (Zu3d9)
Heh, makes me even happier to be an LCMSer!!
Posted by: Ruth at June 29, 2015 07:53 AM (oo88B)
I could probably pull the lever for Rubio or Walker, happily pull it for Cruz or Perry, but Christie or Bush? Nope.
I'll get hammered instead.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:51 AM (Zu3d9)
Walker more than likely. Rubio? I would have to get really, really drunk. Or write my name in.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:54 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 29, 2015 07:46 AM (ITu74)
Their unfunded liabilities are astronomical, as well as some other States and cities. However, those are not even being considered now. The problem PR has, and CA originally had was they could not pay the debt or interest on their debt. They had a bunch of bonds coming due and could not pay them off.
These types of debts are much worse that the "unfunded liabilities". These are liabilities due now or default. Default has another name too, its called bankruptcy.
They had tried to float another series of bonds to pay the old ones but had no takers. So guess what, Democrat Congress passed a bill to buy their shitty bonds at that time. I think it was somewhere around $50B. Since they lost the House that has not been possible again.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:54 AM (GpgJl)
You need to read Gulag Archipelago, it's all in there. Fear of the minority freezes you, and before long, it's the camps.
Posted by: Agent J at June 29, 2015 07:54 AM (ueOgE)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 29, 2015 07:48 AM (VcOqI)
As long as you're part of a group think group
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2015 07:57 AM (DiZBp)
Not sure if this was mentioned but the second prison escapee was shot and captured by the Canadian border.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:57 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 29, 2015 07:57 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:54 AM
As election time draws closer, I am more and more convinced that I will, once again, feel morally compelled to write in Vermin Supreme.
He's a lib, true, but his platform calls for good dental hygiene and a pony for every child. And he lives only a mile or so from me. And I have a "Vermin Supreme" t-shirt....
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:57 AM (P8YHq)
Not sure if this was mentioned but the second prison escapee was shot and captured by the Canadian border.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:57 AM (St6BJ)
I had it in the links above,
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:58 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Agent J at June 29, 2015 07:54 AM (ueOgE)
Read it long ago.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:58 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:58 AM (GpgJl)
Of course. Should've known.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:58 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2015 07:57 AM (P8YHq)
I had vermin supreme for dinner, with fava beans and chi-aaaan-tee.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 08:00 AM (St6BJ)
@560 What happens when an overwhelming numerical majority is the minority?
You need to read Gulag Archipelago, it's all in there. Fear of the minority freezes you, and before long, it's the camps.
Posted by: Agent J at June 29, 2015 07:54 AM (ueOgE)
There is a big difference between Russia and the US. Here that overwhelming majority has guns. And THAT is the reason for the second amendment.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 08:00 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:46 AM (rwI+c)
Yep, based on what we heard Sunday, they are not going to perform state marriages. At least that is what is going to be proposed at the synodical convention. I figure it will pass.
On the other hand, they see this as only delaying the inevitable. The gov't is on the path of forcing churches to perform homosexual "marriages" and those that don't are going to face the consequences.
The fact that the synod president posted the quote from the Lutheran in Germany from 1932 about illegitimate ruling authorities tells me they don't like where this is heading. The LCMS is very follow the law whenever possible and talking about the gov't being a superior power but not ruling authority speaks volumes to their thinking.
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 29, 2015 08:00 AM (nRvEn)
Posted by: Infidel at June 29, 2015 08:01 AM (2LVOe)
There is a big difference between Russia and the US.
Here that overwhelming majority has guns. And THAT is the reason for
the second amendment.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 08:00 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Communist Par, I mean Democrat Party at June 29, 2015 08:01 AM (fVOPU)
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at June 29, 2015 08:03 AM (D0NZx)
"marriages" and those that don't are going to face the consequences.
Churches will be declared 'public accommodations' and forced to comply.
That will be the next battle.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 29, 2015 08:05 AM (oVJmc)
That will be the next battle.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 29, 2015 08:05 AM (oVJmc)
Churches could very easily be converted to private clubs, because in reality, that is what they are.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 08:06 AM (GpgJl)
That will be the next battle.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 29, 2015 08:05 AM (oVJmc)
But but but Comrade Chairman Barry is such a good Christian
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2015 08:06 AM (DiZBp)
Mathew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 08:09 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton, Your Next President at June 29, 2015 08:09 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 08:10 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: Lizabth at June 29, 2015 08:10 AM (Qeh6Q)
"marriages" and those that don't are going to face the consequences.
Churches will be declared 'public accommodations' and forced to comply.
That will be the next battle.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 29, 2015 08:05 AM (oVJmc)
************
Ours has begun several small-group, home-based ministries. Unreal, but yeah, the church is about to go underground.
Posted by: A person of no import at June 29, 2015 08:12 AM (yxw0r)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 08:16 AM (GpgJl)
Bill defining expectation of privacy in the digital age-stops spying on patriotic white people
Bill adding Christians to "protected class"
Bill eliminating "deep pockets" legal doctrine
Bill eliminating "disparate impact" legal doctrine
Bill providing criminal penalties for government employees who participate in collecting gun purchase/ownership records, who illegally share IRS data.
Bill reenacting the independent council.
Impeachment hearings for the most asinine judges.
Bill protecting the rights of private parties religious freedom, criminlaizes government employees who violate.
Bill making the facilitation of, or consperacy to commit election fraud (including registration fraud) of more than 5 people/votes, regardless of intent, a serious felony.
Or they can suck on whatever Obama and the left whip out, which would be the status quo.
Posted by: Smarty at June 29, 2015 10:13 AM (aZ9MX)
On the other side, I'm starting to think a second Civil War will be a best-case scenario.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 29, 2015 12:03 PM (Wqv3y)
Posted by: joefl65 at June 29, 2015 02:34 PM (UFV5W)
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