Current Conservative Presidential Darling Pretty Indifferent On Same Sex Marriage Ruling

Marco Rubio....pro-intervention and nation building, pro-amnesty, but indifferent to SSM ruling.

“While I disagree with this decision, we live in a republic and must abide by the law. As we look ahead, it must be a priority of the next president to nominate judges and justices committed to applying the Constitution as written and originally understood…

“I firmly believe the question of same sex marriage is a question of the definition of an institution, not the dignity of a human being. Every American has the right to pursue happiness as they see fit. Not every American has to agree on every issue, but all of us do have to share our country. A large number of Americans will continue to believe in traditional marriage, and a large number of Americans will be pleased with the Court’s decision today. In the years ahead, it is my hope that each side will respect the dignity of the other.”

Allah took exception to my characterization of Rubio as "indifferent" but had the decision gone the other way, what would he have said differently? "While I'm thankful for today's ruling and understand the passions on both sides, we live in a republic....blah....blah...respect the decision....blah...blah...respect each other...blah....blah...conservative judges."

Why so tepid Marco? Oh, right....donors.

Oh and while we do live in a republic (theoretically) it's important who and how laws are made. If judges do it, it's not a republic. Marco should probably think on that for a bit.

This is your guy GOP? Swell.

Ted Cruz has a fundraising idea, I mean, a response....let Congress vote on keeping Supreme Court judges every 8 years. Odds of passing that amendment to the Constitution? Yeah.

Anyone selling a "solution" to this that requires an amendment is simply blowing smoke up your ass.

So what is the solution? I have some ideas and will have a post on Monday about it.

In the meantime the short answer is....stop protecting people from the big government they support. Too many people who have spent years and decades advocating for bigger and bigger government have to be made to enjoy it as much as we have been.

For me it starts with the Catholic Church. They and any other church that discriminates against gay couples will find up being sued and forced to perform ceremonies or will lose their tax status.

My reaction: Oh well.

US bishops have spent decades advocating liberal big government programs (ObamaCare, as long as they are exempted and amnesty spring to mind) all while enjoying an exemption from its effects or sharing in the burden of the costs via their tax exemption.

Well they are going to get a taste of what they've been building and they aren't going to like it one bit.

While I will lament to loss of an important American value, it won't be the first progressives have killed. But I will laugh as they and others like them are shocked that the government they are so happy to sic on others turns on them.

I keep being told there isn't a critical mass of people who support big government. Fair enough. So now it's time to create one. No more exemptions and safe harbors from which people safely sell me and my values down the rive to protect theirs.

Big government is the best salesman for small government. It's time we let it loose on it's supporters.

Added: In the interest of interfaith comity I should note I'm looking forward to synagogues and mosques being taxed as well.

90-95% of your congregants vote for Democrats? Well, then I'm sure you'll be happy to be subject to even more of what they impose on the rest of us.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:01 PM




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1 Conservtative presidential darling my ass. I'd vote for Hillary! before Rubio, just to spite that weasel. That's what he gets for supporting amnesty.

Posted by: Agent J at June 27, 2015 12:05 PM (ueOgE)

2 Omg, first! And I've got a tuna sammich and Fritos. Today's a hell of a lot better than yesterday.

Posted by: Agent J at June 27, 2015 12:07 PM (ueOgE)

3 Remember, the ratchet only works one way.

Rubio just proved it.

Posted by: steveegg at June 27, 2015 12:07 PM (cL79m)

4 LiFB

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 12:07 PM (rwI+c)

5 While I disagree with this decision, we live in a republic and must abide by the law.


Why? They sure as Hell don't. RINO Rubio just doing more RINOing.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:07 PM (GpgJl)

6 The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.

Posted by: Stuff Abraham Lincoln Said, Vol IV at June 27, 2015 12:09 PM (rwI+c)

7 While I disagree with this decision, we live in a republic and must abide by the law

A more perfect illustration of the difference between the democrat and the republican.

If the left identifies a law they don't like, they bring out mobs in the street, and target people for destruction, until the law is changed.

The republicans don't do that.

Posted by: Adelade Kramski at June 27, 2015 12:10 PM (TBfVE)

8 For me it starts with the Catholic Church. They and any other church
that discriminates against gay couples will find up being sued and
forced to perform ceremonies or will lose their tax status.



Obama does not have that authority and neither does congress. Tax exempt status for churches began before there was a USA.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:10 PM (GpgJl)

9 As for what Rubio would have done had SSM gone the other way:

...

...

...

No call to the Left to accept and move on, because they never accept defeat. They never accept an adverse SCOTUS ruling. They never accept a provision of the US Code they don't like. They never accept a provision of the Constitution they don't approve of.

Posted by: steveegg at June 27, 2015 12:10 PM (cL79m)

10 "The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."

Forfeiture of assets without trial, or evidence, based on mere suspicion.

Posted by: Adelade Kramski at June 27, 2015 12:11 PM (TBfVE)

11
Time for the I Hate Marco Show!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZrj_REmwlUfeature=youtu.bet=39s

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 12:12 PM (kdS6q)

12 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:10 PM (GpgJl)

Total bullshit.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 27, 2015 12:12 PM (5LM4o)

13 How anyone could possibly imagine that we live in a republic is just beyond me.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 27, 2015 12:12 PM (YFw5T)

14 Abide by the Law?

Which one?

The one written in black and white using words with meaning or the one conjured up by a gang?

The Congress could pass a law saying ObamaCare is null and void, and a President could sign it into Law, and the Supreme Quiff would say nope, that's not what it means.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 12:12 PM (MQEz6)

15 Suspicion is the wrong word. I should have said accusation.

Posted by: Adelade Kramski at June 27, 2015 12:13 PM (TBfVE)

16 Fatso Christie's Presidential website went live...

I don't see why anyone would support any of these other pretenders, when the real genuine (actual size) Rino hisself is now crashed onto the stage.


Rubio is too pretty. If we're going to have a Republican Party who can muscle out the Democrat pigs who have been feeding at the trough for so long, we need a bigger pig.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2015 12:13 PM (Dj0WE)

17 "Obama does not have that authority and neither does congress. Tax exempt status for churches began before there was a USA. "



They don't give no shit. Law means nothing short of what they want it to mean. History, tradition, religion, law....they got Twitter SJWs to tak care of. All 10% of the population of them.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:15 PM (pCePB)

18 OT: Don't fvck with this guy. (Read the whole story.)

http://tinyurl.com/ptgkmkq

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:15 PM (lz5vi)

19 Bestiality? Meh. I'm indifferent.

Posted by: Marco Fabio at June 27, 2015 12:16 PM (Dwehj)

20 The Conservative in the House and Senate should go home.

They can cripple the Empire with one move.

If we are to write a Letter of Complaint to Congress it must include the command to pack up and go home.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 12:16 PM (MQEz6)

21 Ditto on the Catholic Church starting to get some political STDs from being in the bed with the Left for decades; this is from a weekly attending Catholic. I am in total agreement with the sentiment. Let us extend that to Corporate America who has thrown their former Traditionalists allies under the bus. Next time they complain about the Left imposing higher taxes, and more regulation let us stay silent and shrug out shoulders. Any question that Rubio is a Bush with better packaging? The mask came off when he went into bed with the likes of Durbin and Schumer. I am going to call Rubio the False Bush in honor of the various False Dmitriys that came out of the woodwork claiming to be the rightful Tsar. LET IT BURN!

Posted by: Michael K at June 27, 2015 12:16 PM (8w5oQ)

22 If the left identifies a law they don't like, they bring out mobs in the street, and target people for destruction, until the law is changed.

The republicans don't do that.



Known as "The Moral High Road", aka Having Your Ass Haneded To You. Repeatedly.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:16 PM (G+3hN)

23 Why? They sure as Hell don't. RINO Rubio just doing more RINOing.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:07 PM (GpgJl)


Obama does not have that authority and neither does congress. Tax exempt status for churches began before there was a USA.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:10 PM (GpgJl)


How do you reconcile these two comments? They are fundamentally inconsistent. You either believe one or you believe the other. You cannot believe both at the same time.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2015 12:17 PM (Dj0WE)

24 I have to agree with you Drew. I am sickened by the over-reach. Next up: 1st and 2nd amendment, already under attack. What are we going to do about it?

Posted by: small town girl at June 27, 2015 12:17 PM (gPTe0)

25 17 They don't give no shit. Law means nothing short of
what they want it to mean. History, tradition, religion, law....they
got Twitter SJWs to tak care of. All 10% of the population of them.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:15 PM (pCePB)


About the only meaningful tax they are exempt from is local property tax and the federal government has no control over that at all. If a church has "earned income" they already pay taxes on that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:18 PM (GpgJl)

26
Related

Lena Dunhams boyfriend of 3 years said he wouldn't propose until everyone could get married


Well

Yesterday she tweeted to him "Yo, Get on it!" And is insisting he propose to her

Romantic

Posted by: ThunderB at June 27, 2015 12:18 PM (zOTsN)

27 Call your Congressman and tell them to go back home.

Imagine Orange and Turtle dealing with open abandonment of office.

"Turn those machines back on!"

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 12:19 PM (MQEz6)

28 Bold prediction - Before Obama leaves office, Christian churces and Jewish synagogues (and only Christian churches and Jewish synagogues) that either have pastors/rabbis opposed to Teh Ghey Mafia or are members of synods who are opposed to Teh Ghey Mafia will have their federal tax-exempt statuses stripped.

Posted by: steveegg at June 27, 2015 12:19 PM (cL79m)

29 And I am waiting to see what the Southern Baptists do. They already warned SCOTUS that a bad ruling on this would not be followed by them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:19 PM (GpgJl)

30 "If we are to write a Letter of Complaint to Congress it must include the command to pack up and go home."


You're punking on the previous threads, right?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:20 PM (pCePB)

31 Effete scum Barack Obama
With your policies so red.
Wish you were removed from office
If not here's hoping you drop dead.

Posted by: Ronnie Van Zant at June 27, 2015 12:20 PM (F1Z8f)

32 Rubio is the party's last chance to repeal Obamacare, but Jeb! would make liberal heads explode.

Rubio / Bush 2016

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 27, 2015 12:20 PM (BNZkU)

33 About the only meaningful tax they are exempt from is local property tax and the federal government has no control over that at all. If a church has "earned income" they already pay taxes on that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:18 PM (GpgJl)


Actually, they are exempt from federal income taxes, and that exemption extends to their preachers.

Not for long, though.

Posted by: steveegg at June 27, 2015 12:20 PM (cL79m)

34 An-y-way the wind blows. Doesn't real-ly matter...to meeeeee.

Posted by: Marco Fabio at June 27, 2015 12:20 PM (Dwehj)

35 Usually a good night's sleep tends to take the edge off my "fvck 'em" attitude and my cynicism, but I rolled out of bed to find my my "fvck 'em" circle expanding like Drews here.


What comes after cynicism though? Because whatever it is, I'm there.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 12:20 PM (xSCb6)

36 Lena Dunhams boyfriend of 3 years said he wouldn't propose until everyone could get married
Well
Yesterday she tweeted to him "Yo, Get on it!" And is insisting he propose to her



Pro tip: Never bluff unless you are willing to have it called.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:21 PM (G+3hN)

37 They aren't repealing anything. Obamacare will stay. Single sex marriage will stay

Posted by: ThunderB at June 27, 2015 12:21 PM (zOTsN)

38 Bold prediction - Before Obama leaves office, Christian churces and Jewish synagogues (and only Christian churches and Jewish synagogues) that either have pastors/rabbis opposed to Teh Ghey Mafia or are members of synods who are opposed to Teh Ghey Mafia will have their federal tax-exempt statuses stripped.

-
That's impossible! Of course, these last six and a half years I've seen many impossible things.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:21 PM (hxAur)

39 When does ObamaCare go into full effect now? Different parts have been delayed and waivered so much that I've lost track.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 12:22 PM (rwI+c)

40
30 "If we are to write a Letter of Complaint to Congress it must include the command to pack up and go home."


You're punking on the previous threads, right?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:20 PM (pCePB)

No, not at all.

A Conservative Representative trapped in the House of Orange Doom is useless and a prop helping to hold up the Empire.

Go home.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 12:22 PM (MQEz6)

41 "And I am waiting to see what the Southern Baptists do."



Knowing Southern Babs, well.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:22 PM (pCePB)

42 "Turn those machines back on!"

It waz the Dukes!!!

Posted by: Marco Fabio at June 27, 2015 12:22 PM (Dwehj)

43 The chances of me voting for Marco Rubio are exactly the same as my chances of voting for Jeb Bush.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Posted by: rickl at June 27, 2015 12:22 PM (sdi6R)

44 For me it starts with the Catholic Church. They and any other church

that discriminates against gay couples will find up being sued and

forced to perform ceremonies or will lose their tax status.


Obama does not have that authority and neither does congress. Tax exempt status for churches began before there was a USA.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:10 PM (GpgJl)



You think that will stop them? Barry/Mao will set his SJW/Red Brigades on the Church in the next phase of his Cultural Revolution.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2015 12:22 PM (DiZBp)

45 I don't read this as indifferent. I read his response as law abiding. If you're going to be the chief executive of the law enforcement of a country, you ought not just throw out the laws you don't like. That's what makes us so upset at President Obama: his ideology and desires trump law. We cannot claim to be all for the rule of law, then get mad at someone for saying "well this sucks, but if its the law, I have to enforce it until its changed properly."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:22 PM (39g3+)

46
Signed.

Let the Churches of all denominations handing out teddy bears at the border and bead spinning over intolerance and global warming enjoy the fun we're having:

Property taxes for church property
Minimum wage, mandatory benefits and labor law enforcement for church workers
Public accommodation -- up -- the -- wazzoo

If need be, our side can go back to Sunday meeting in the parlor.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 12:22 PM (kdS6q)

47 Rubio is the party's last chance to repeal Obamacare, but Jeb! would make liberal heads explode.

Rubio / Bush 2016

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 27, 2015 12:20 PM (BNZkU)


Repeal? Only in that we want to put our own stamp on it, and Roberts took away our easy way to do it.

Now we're going to have to pay a portion of everybody's insurance premium, just like we, and Jeb's brother, did last decade for the seniors' drugs.

Posted by: Bo(eh)ner/McConnell at June 27, 2015 12:23 PM (cL79m)

48 It's not the income tax. It's the property tax. It's how Henry the VIII took over church property


We will see it here

Catholic church's will be hardest hit. Pope Dope won't know what hit him

Posted by: ThunderB at June 27, 2015 12:24 PM (zOTsN)

49 "When does ObamaCare go into full effect now? Different parts have been delayed and waivered so much that I've lost track."

The cadillac tax on gold plated insurance policies is still out there, I think. 2017.

Posted by: Adelade Kramski at June 27, 2015 12:24 PM (TBfVE)

50 "A Conservative Representative trapped in the House of Orange Doom is useless and a prop helping to hold up the Empire. "


Okay, what is that supposed to do?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:24 PM (pCePB)

51 Posted by: steveegg at June 27, 2015 12:20 PM (cL79m)

Also make them fight for that exemption state by state. If they lose their 501(c)(3) status at the diocese level there will be places where states and localities will tell them to pay up.

Also, charitable deductions to their charity arms won't be deductible.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 27, 2015 12:25 PM (5LM4o)

52 Rubio would probably do ok in office, but it doesn't matter. Hillary wins if she survives to election day without a massive stroke.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (39g3+)

53 Catholic church's will be hardest hit. Pope Dope won't know what hit him

Posted by: ThunderB at June 27, 2015 12:24 PM (zOTsN)


Frankie should have been more careful on picking his allies-of-convenience.

Posted by: Gen. Curtis E. LeEgg at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (cL79m)

54 They and any other church

that discriminates against gay couples will find up being sued and

forced to perform ceremonies or will lose their tax status.

-
Then bent over the altar and rodgered up the squeakhole.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (hxAur)

55 California and New York will tax the property of churches that won't perform gay marriage. Bet on it


There is some prime real estate they would like to seize

Posted by: ThunderB at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (zOTsN)

56
50 "A Conservative Representative trapped in the House of Orange Doom is useless and a prop helping to hold up the Empire. "


Okay, what is that supposed to do?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:24 PM (pCePB)

Create chaos is the GOP and the Congress.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (MQEz6)

57 Fuck cocksucker Rubio.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (YFw5T)

58 It's not the income tax. It's the property tax. It's how Henry the VIII took over church property





We will see it here



Catholic church's will be hardest hit. Pope Dope won't know what hit him

Posted by: ThunderB at June 27, 2015 12:24 PM (zOTsN)


I had a post in the last thread about Thomas More. But yeah, King Barry will go after the Church like Henry did and there are plenty of Richard Rich's out there to sell out the Mores and help King Barry

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (DiZBp)

59 ***"About the only meaningful tax they are exempt from is local property tax
and the federal government has no control over that at all."***


At the very minimum, states will use the precedents of this week to start rolling back property tax exemptions. And that's as long as the Feds don't step in and do it for them.


Why you think the Feds wouldn't at this point is mystifying.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (xSCb6)

60 Property taxes on Churches? That little Trinity Church down there at Ground Zero in Manhattan. What would be the property taxes on that plot of land?

Posted by: Adelade Kramski at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (TBfVE)

61 "This is your guy GOP? Swell."

This is always their guy. When has it been different? They despised Reagan. It's freakish he ever got through to win.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 27, 2015 12:27 PM (s/yC1)

62 Let the Churches of all denominations handing out teddy bears at the border and bead spinning over intolerance and global warming enjoy the fun we're having

Yeah there are some denominations that are working hard to pump out those golden calves.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:27 PM (39g3+)

63 "My reaction: Oh well."

Yeah, that's not my reaction. At all.

Posted by: Lauren at June 27, 2015 12:27 PM (MYCIw)

64 Disband the IRS.

Flat tax for everybody. Everybody!

Posted by: Fritz at June 27, 2015 12:28 PM (tQZfi)

65 "Create chaos is the GOP and the Congress. "


Is not the GOP and Congress.....whew...out of control?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:28 PM (pCePB)

66 Want to create chaos in the Left? Start demanding mosques perform gay weddings.

Posted by: rrpjr at June 27, 2015 12:28 PM (s/yC1)

67 Pro tip: Never bluff unless you are willing to have it called.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:21 PM (G+3hN)
------
I'm already married, to a manatee. I hope Lena takes it well. I really loved her lingerie selfie. I'm not offended that she prefers dog.

Posted by: Lena Dunham's boyfriend at June 27, 2015 12:29 PM (F1Z8f)

68 The theme for this Century is "You are next."

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 12:29 PM (MQEz6)

69 Rubio said the court was wrong in its seeing the issue as one of human dignity. I don't see that as RINO weaseling.

Posted by: Thorrison at June 27, 2015 12:29 PM (AVWYi)

70 51 Also, charitable deductions to their charity arms won't be deductible.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 27, 2015 12:25 PM (5LM4o)


Our shitty little town here has high property taxes and the very reason is that tax exempt status. Every city block downtown has a church on it taking up half the block. So all the people who are not tax exempt have to make up for it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:29 PM (GpgJl)

71 "Disband the IRS."


Awesome. Burn it down.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:29 PM (pCePB)

72 trapped in the House of Orange Doom

-
Aka the Blunderdome.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:29 PM (t82Ht)

73 Rubio would probably do ok in office, but it doesn't matter. Hillary wins if she survives to election day without gives Sanders and O'Malley a massive stroke before Iowa and keeps Warren out of the race.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:26 PM (39g3+)


ReWrite engaged for Rat reality. If Clinton somehow clears the Rat field before the end of the year, she will be the 45th President. If not, she won't even be the Rat nominee.

Posted by: Gen. Curtis E. LeEgg at June 27, 2015 12:30 PM (cL79m)

74 I am so f'n boned...

Posted by: Lena Dunham's Boyfriend at June 27, 2015 12:30 PM (Dwehj)

75 Speaking of tax exemption, former job czar Immelt threatened to outsource 3000 GE jobs in SC if Ex-Im isn't renewed. Send that guy some money and push for a double tax credit match for salaries of Americans on your payroll to offset the corporate tax.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 27, 2015 12:30 PM (Kqhlu)

76
Oh this is rich, and I'll tell you why.

A few weeks back Rubio spoke to a group about how religious freedom was under attack. Ace posted about it. I and others immediately called it Bullshit. Some weenies here disagreed.

Well guess what.

Rubio and ALL the R candidates are full of shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 12:30 PM (rrKIh)

77 St Patrick's. In NYC. Right across from the Helmsley Palace Hotel. Real swanky neighborhood.

Posted by: ThunderB at June 27, 2015 12:30 PM (zOTsN)

78 Off massive bomber sock.

Posted by: steveegg at June 27, 2015 12:30 PM (cL79m)

79 California and New York will tax the property of churches that won't perform gay marriage. Bet on it

Why do you think it will be only in those states? Smart churches are already working on changing their tax status and being ready to deal with the expense.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:30 PM (39g3+)

80 People are funny. Every year at our congregational meeting, I push for the congregation to get out of the building twice a year and have our service in a field. Just to remind ourselves that The Church is not the building but rather the body of believers. I'm even willing to do it in the Spring and Fall when the weather is as nice as it gets here.

No one ever agrees with me.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 12:30 PM (rwI+c)

81
65 "Create chaos is the GOP and the Congress. "


Is not the GOP and Congress.....whew...out of control?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:28 PM (pCePB)

No, they are firmly in control along with their Democrat partners.

Tip the cart over.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 12:31 PM (MQEz6)

82 Oh yes, the feds will attack the churches that do not cave immediately. The leaders of my own denomination are so eager to fold that tomorrow might be my last day as a member. But will most of the churches go meek and fold, or will it be Onward Christian Soldiers? I'm guessing enough will fold that most of the rest of the large denominations will see resistance is useless and give in.

Rest assured, an effort will be underway shortly to defile every sanctuary in the US. Lists will be made and dates reserved. Your own church will not be immune. Your church may not be part of a large denomination, but one day you will see SWAT teams taking over the building and federal martials escorting in a happy couple.

Posted by: Agent J at June 27, 2015 12:31 PM (ueOgE)

83 People keep saying "They can't do that!".

...yet they're doing it. You already know about the latest examples.

Churches can't lose their tax status. They can't do that.

Until they do.

They can't confiscate everyone's firearms or compel a turn-in. They can't do that.

Until they do.

They won't round up dissidents and those who refuse Federal mandates. They can't do that.

Until they do.

Posted by: Billy Barty's Righteous Indignation at June 27, 2015 12:31 PM (mTo/m)

84 "4 I am so f'n boned..."

Why?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:32 PM (pCePB)

85 To those who come after:

We left you the greatest country in in history. Yeah, it had some problems, but nothing reasonable people couldn't work out. But all in all, the richest, most tolerant, and most inclusive man has known.

Too bad you fucked it up.

Posted by: Fat Freddy's Cat at June 27, 2015 12:32 PM (x2KAR)

86 The Catholic Church will be the last to be affected by this. The Church has a shit ton of rules that restrict folks from getting married. Most straight folks wouldn't be allowed to get married in the Catholic Church. Divorce, no. Living together, no. Not a confirmed Catholic, no. etc.

And because the Church still sees homosexuality as a sin, you wouldn't be in good standing anyway.

Posted by: XPO182 at June 27, 2015 12:33 PM (BNm6b)

87 Want to create chaos in the Left? Start demanding mosques perform gay weddings.

Yeah see that's the first thing I flashed to when people started talking about property taxes. What's the property tax value of the Ground Zero Celebration Mosque? Do they pay taxes?

The problem is, the Saudis could pull that kind of expense out of their diamond-encrusted couch cushions without even putting down the 13 year old Filipino boy on their lap.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:33 PM (39g3+)

88 Shorter SCOTUS decision. Dignity, the sodomites have it and you don't.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:33 PM (t82Ht)

89 "No, they are firmly in control along with their Democrat partners.

Tip the cart over."


We're not saying different things.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:33 PM (pCePB)

90 "Well they are going to get a taste of what they've been building and they aren't going to like it one bit. "

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:01 PM

Not a new idea Drew, but one that seems to be rather important in the grand scheme of things.....

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

-- Galatians 6:7

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2015 12:34 PM (Zu3d9)

91 We left you the greatest country in in history. Yeah, it had some problems, but nothing reasonable people couldn't work out. But all in all, the richest, most tolerant, and most inclusive man has known.

Too bad you fucked it up.

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Now you'll have a millennium of regret.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:35 PM (t82Ht)

92 The Catholic Church will be the last to be affected by this. The Church has a shit ton of rules that restrict folks from getting married. Most straight folks wouldn't be allowed to get married in the Catholic Church. Divorce, no. Living together, no. Not a confirmed Catholic, no. etc.

Yeah you'd think so but... the Supreme Court just ordered all states to allow two dudes to get married. Let that sink in a moment.

If you think that churches declining marriage ceremonies because someone is living in sin or not a member will stop the state from requiring marriages there, you haven't been paying attention.

I mean if a pastry shop can be compelled to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding reception by law, what limitations that churches have will be allowed to stop homosexual weddings in their midst?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:35 PM (39g3+)

93
89 "No, they are firmly in control along with their Democrat partners.

Tip the cart over."

We're not saying different things.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:33 PM (pCePB)

Oh.

Cool.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 12:35 PM (MQEz6)

94
The Catholic Church will be the last to be affected by this. The Church has a shit ton of rules that restrict folks from getting married.
Posted by: XPO182



Hence public accommodation enforcement against them.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 12:35 PM (kdS6q)

95 I don't read this as indifferent. I read his response as law abiding. If you're going to be the chief executive of the law enforcement of a country, you ought not just throw out the laws you don't like. That's what makes us so upset at President Obama: his ideology and desires trump law. We cannot claim to be all for the rule of law, then get mad at someone for saying "well this sucks, but if its the law, I have to enforce it until its changed properly."

----------

That's how I see it too. It sucks that we get clobbered so often for being so, but we can't abandon this position.

Instead, we should go after the left's institutions that undermine the rule of law, starting with the universities/colleges and the DEMSM. These a*****es should feel a great deal of heat, and the public universities that are located in states controlled by the GOP, should be hit hard with massive changes to how they operate and who is employed by them. Make the leftists in these organizations feel a great deal of heat. Make them painfully aware of how much they are despised by the Constitution-supporting Americans.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 27, 2015 12:36 PM (Mb6qh)

96 @82, marshals, not martials. Still stunned over first and drowsy and full from tuna sammich

Posted by: Agent J at June 27, 2015 12:36 PM (ueOgE)

97
What is Rubio doing about that NY couple who own a farm and were fined $13K and ordered to attend "sensitivity training?"

What are ANY OF US doing about that?

Nothing.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 12:37 PM (rrKIh)

98 "Now you'll have a millennium of regret."


People will figure this shit storm out regardless of government. In spite of, more likely.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:37 PM (pCePB)

99 We left you the greatest country in in history. Yeah, it had some problems, but nothing reasonable people couldn't work out. But all in all, the richest, most tolerant, and most inclusive man has known.

Now eat it. You can wrap yourself with that rainbow flag if it will make you feel better.

I'm almost 50 years old. I'll likely be long dead before the really bad times come. I have no kids. It won't hit me much. But you guys, the younger generation cheering now?


Have fun.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:38 PM (39g3+)

100 The Culture Mob will now move into full frontal assault against the churches.


They've been prepping the battlefield for this on social media and other internet outlets for years. Notice how venomous and obnoxious more and more people are toward Christianity?


The Media and Entertainment industries have also been on board in how they portray Christians. Just look at how the Federal Government includes religious belief on the Right Wing terror spectrum.


And everyone who thought - and still thinks - that this is where it stops, just like banning the CBF, is not only kidding themselves...they're part of the problem.


Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 12:38 PM (xSCb6)

101 I'd quibble on the "Conservative Presidential Darling" thing, but otherwise I agree w/ your characterization of Rubio.

He is dangerously close to being acceptable to conservatives, but doesn't seem to be their first choice. He *is* the first choice of a lot of the business as usual Republicans.

I don't think Walker is the answer. I read an article yesterday (might have been at National Journal) that reviewed his fairly coy behavior over the past couple of years on SSM. I think Walker is a lot like Mitch "Truce" Daniels.

Perry and Jindal seemed to be the best at a Federalist approach on this issue, imo.

Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2015 12:38 PM (RWGcK)

102 48 It's not the income tax. It's the property tax. It's how Henry the VIII took over church property


We will see it here

Catholic church's will be hardest hit. Pope Dope won't know what hit him
Posted by: ThunderB at June 27, 2015 12:24 PM (zOTsN)


Yep, that's exactly what this is. Let's party like it's 1535.

Posted by: rickl at June 27, 2015 12:38 PM (sdi6R)

103 "Oh.

Cool."


Well, no, come on, debate. It's all good.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:38 PM (pCePB)

104 Until they do.

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The first first six years of Hitler's rule were relatively sane. We're six years into Obola's reign.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:38 PM (WSDpY)

105 If you're going to be the chief executive of the law enforcement of a country, you ought not just throw out the laws you don't like.

It's not a question of like. If the chief executive enforces laws that *he* believes unconstitutional, he's abrogating his own oath of fidelity to the Constitution. His honorable choices are to support the Constitution, or resign. There is no middle way.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 12:40 PM (rwI+c)

106 Carry-over from the previous post...

After all, unlike the rest of the 1st Amendment, the protection of religion only applies to actions that might be taken against it by Congress, not the states, localities, the executive branch, or especially SCOTUS.

Since all of the attacks on Christian churches and Jewish synagogues by Teh Ghey Mafia will be made outside the bounds of Congress, SCOTUS will be cheering them on.

Posted by: steveegg at June 27, 2015 12:40 PM (cL79m)

107 I'm almost 50 years old. I'll likely be long dead before the really bad times come. I have no kids. It won't hit me much. But you guys, the younger generation cheering now?
Have fun.


52. Same boat.
May they enjoy the Good and Hard clause that they so enthusiastically wanted.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:40 PM (G+3hN)

108 Total bullshit.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 27, 2015 12:12 PM (5LM4o)

Of course.

In fact many established churches in the colonies had the legal authority to tax everyone in their "parish."

That pesky Constitution also protected us from churches!

Every time I think about the framers I am more impressed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2015 12:40 PM (Zu3d9)

109 The Culture Mob will now move into full frontal assault against the churches.

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There's always the catacombs.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:40 PM (WSDpY)

110 Tax exempt status for churches began before there was a USA.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 12:10 PM (GpgJl)


Ah, the days of Vic's youth!

Posted by: wooga at June 27, 2015 12:41 PM (XK0dn)

111
Next up will be the Veteran's Administration repayment schedule for services rendered. Currently, the fee for physician or administrative assistance for a one time visit is $50. A 100% increase in the fee schedule for this service is well within the parameters of "fairness."

Posted by: Doctor Fish at June 27, 2015 12:41 PM (P330y)

112 Ernst Rohm will return shortly.

Posted by: Doomed at June 27, 2015 12:41 PM (bGLSw)

113 What are ANY OF US doing about that?


Not the hill to...ah, never mind.

Posted by: That guy who always says... at June 27, 2015 12:42 PM (Dwehj)

114 Dear titless bubble-butt...

Posted by: Lena Dunham's boyfriend at June 27, 2015 12:42 PM (/f6Nd)

115 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

-- Galatians 6:7
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2015 12:34 PM (Zu3d9)


And this is why I love Ace O' Spades, smart mil blog.

Come for snarky political commentary, succinct movie reviews and late night debauchery, stay for Jewish sex toys quoting the New Testament.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 27, 2015 12:42 PM (BVDFs)

116 I'm almost 50 years old. I'll likely be long dead before the really bad times come. I have no kids. It won't hit me much. But you guys, the younger generation cheering now?


Have fun.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:38 PM (39g3+)


You really think there's 10 years before the shit flies through the fan, or do you think you're going to be one of the first to be killed in the Camps?

Posted by: steveegg at June 27, 2015 12:43 PM (cL79m)

117 You really think there's 10 years before the shit flies through the fan, or do you think you're going to be one of the first to be killed in the Camps?



Don't know about CT, but I'll never make the camps.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:44 PM (G+3hN)

118 Nap time. Hasta.



*What? I was up early*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:44 PM (pCePB)

119 I'm almost 50 years old. I'll likely be long dead before the really bad times come. I have no kids. It won't hit me much. But you guys, the younger generation cheering now?
Have fun.


52. Same boat.
May they enjoy the Good and Hard clause that they so enthusiastically wanted.


51. Ditto.

May they get everything they wished for. In spades.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:40 PM (G+3hN)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 27, 2015 12:44 PM (BVDFs)

120 I'm almost 50 years old. I'll likely be long dead before the really bad times come.

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I'm not sure that's true. Destroying civilization is like skating on thin ice. At first the ice cracks slowly, then all at once.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:44 PM (mRbBS)

121
103 "Oh.

Cool."


Well, no, come on, debate. It's all good.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 27, 2015 12:38 PM (pCePB)

Debate what?

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 12:44 PM (MQEz6)

122 Just got back from Wegmans.


Real weird vibe out there.

Not a lot of happy people, judging by facial expressions, and body language.


Eh...probably nothing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 12:45 PM (VPLuQ)

123 In the interests of fairness and making America better place for us all, I hereby revoke the tax deductions Christians take for donating to Churches that do will not perform or recognize same sex marriage.

Posted by: President Obama at June 27, 2015 12:46 PM (wkuqO)

124 Debate what?
Posted by: eman



Jolly Rancher bites or Twizzler bites?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:46 PM (G+3hN)

125
the good news is Gabriel Malor and his pals at GOPud can finally stop pretending they're on our side on a few issues

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 12:47 PM (rrKIh)

126 Will they go after the strongest church first, or a weak single congregation?

I'm assuming the big churches will watching out for an indirect attack.

Posted by: goatweed at June 27, 2015 12:48 PM (8HrdX)

127 Apropos of nothing but the eccentric orbit of the Gum Thread, J&G has C&R P64's (one mag) for less than $200.

http://tinyurl.com/l8mthxl

At some point in the near future, there will be no more of these on the surplus market.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 12:48 PM (rwI+c)

128 Don't know about CT, but I'll never make the camps.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:44 PM (G+3hN)


Which will be the herald of the really bad times to come.

I'm not expecting to see 50.

Posted by: steveegg at June 27, 2015 12:48 PM (cL79m)

129 O.k. this is kind of assbacktards, but... Steiner will surely come to make sure the President, Courts, Congreff, and various departments obey our laws and Constitution.

He's right around the corner! On his way! Any minute now!

Posted by: but... snappy uniform! at June 27, 2015 12:48 PM (mTo/m)

130 We no longer live in a Republic and are thus no longer subject to laws of humans. Laws of nature still apply.

Posted by: Ceteris Paribus at June 27, 2015 12:48 PM (lQqJB)

131 I agree and want churches taxed. Tired of the baloney they're selling.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 12:48 PM (pmv/9)

132 Not a lot of happy people, judging by facial expressions, and body language.


Prolly bummed that the SC didn't go far enough.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 27, 2015 12:49 PM (Dwehj)

133 "90-95% of your congregants vote for Democrats? Well, then I'm sure you'll be happy to be subject to even more of what they impose on the rest of us."

This is your weekly reminder that U.S. Roman Catholics do not vote in a bloc. With the possible exception of Kennedy, their national voting patterns tend to match the country's as a whole.

Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2015 12:49 PM (RWGcK)

134 O.k. this is kind of assbacktards, but... Steiner will surely come to make sure the President, Courts, Congreff, and various departments obey our laws and Constitution.

He's right around the corner! On his way! Any minute now!

Posted by: but... snappy uniform! at June 27, 2015 12:48 PM (mTo/m)


Mein Fueher, Steiner....

Posted by: Nervous German general at June 27, 2015 12:49 PM (cL79m)

135 I agree and want churches taxed. Tired of the baloney they're selling.

Of course you do, bless your Yankee heart.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 12:49 PM (rwI+c)

136 Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:46 PM (G+3hN)

Black or red?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2015 12:50 PM (Zu3d9)

137





45
I don't read this as indifferent. I read his response as law abiding.
If you're going to be the chief executive of the law enforcement of a
country, you ought not just throw out the laws you don't like. That's
what makes us so upset at President Obama: his ideology and desires
trump law. We cannot claim to be all for the rule of law, then get mad
at someone for saying "well this sucks, but if its the law, I have to
enforce it until its changed properly."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:22 PM (39g3+)

Only the legislative branch can create law. There is absolutely nothing in the US Constitution that gives the Supreme Court the authority to create law, and in fact there is nothing that gives them the right of judicial review either in that they are the final deciders of what is and what is not constitutional. The Marshall Court gave SCOTUS that extra-constitutional power in the Marbury ruling. If we accept that we are a constitutional republic then technically the SSM ruling is not a law; the only way it can technically be a law is if the Constitution is regarded as being null and void, which in the opinion of most on this blog is probably true as there are no real separation of powers anymore since the legislative branch has effectively been neutered by the courts and executive during the Bush/Obama administration.There's a big difference between Obama and his bureaucrats creating law (which they have no power or authority to do) or expanding upon laws already passed (again, no authority) or refusing to obey and enforce laws (for the last time, no authority) than legitimate laws such as Obamacare being unpopular. Legalizing SSM across the country by judicial fiat is not legitimate nor is redefining basic English to keep certain aspects and definitions of Obamacare in place.

So what Marco Rubio is saying is not that he is "law abiding" but rather that he believes the Supreme Court can create and change (not just strike down) laws despite the absence of any Constitutional authority to do so.

Posted by: Jordan at June 27, 2015 12:50 PM (r9mDd)

138 You really think there's 10 years before the shit flies through the fan, or do you think you're going to be one of the first to be killed in the Camps?

I won't make it that far.

Destroying civilization is like skating on thin ice. At first the ice cracks slowly, then all at once.

This is true. None of us truly understand how fragile civilization is, and how quickly it can collapse. Someone a while back here posted a bit on how fast Somalia fell from a prosperous 3rd world country on the way to being 2nd world... to horrific chaos and brutality.

Some of us know it can be fast and how fragile the bubble is, but none of us really know for sure. All I know is I feel like we're on the cusp.

I hope I'm wrong. Given the consequences to the poor, young, elderly, and sick, I'd rather the left be correct and have their utopia, I'd rather be completely mistaken in my politics and economics than see what is coming happen. I've been wrong before. But I just cannot see how in this case.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:50 PM (39g3+)

139 Further I'm instructing the IRS to make this retroactive to the beginning of my administrations and collect penalties and interest.

Posted by: President Obama at June 27, 2015 12:50 PM (wkuqO)

140 Yup....the Catholic church has supported the dems forever in some kind of judo social justice thingee but the millions aborted by the dems it's just oh well. I am Catholic but recently with pope assailed I just stay home.

Posted by: Hariryback Guy at June 27, 2015 12:51 PM (JG47A)

141 Just turned 52, and I am thinking in much shorter timeframes than I used to.

Posted by: Weasel at June 27, 2015 12:51 PM (e3bId)

142 As an ardent Catholic and SoCon first, FiCon second...I won't weep either when the government begins to revoke various tax privileges and such; I won't mind when "Cathollic" colleges lose federal funding. The bishops need reminding in every generation that Caesar is not your friend...

Posted by: philosoph0123 at June 27, 2015 12:51 PM (zoMgK)

143 Will they go after the strongest church first, or a weak single congregation?

I'm assuming the big churches will watching out for an indirect attack.



Big. Whack a big one first, all the others will roll up without a fight. Psychologically win without a fight.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:51 PM (G+3hN)

144 "You really think there's 10 years before the shit flies through the fan,"

That has always rattled around in my mind, what will be the tipping point? Thirty trillion in debt? Every week your dollar is worth 5 percent less? 25 percent unemployment?
I think Europe is less then five years away from misery myself and it will probably bring down us with them. It's closer then we think. If I were sixty I wouldn't be making plans for my Social Security money.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2015 12:52 PM (dItuC)

145 Big. Whack a big one first, all the others will roll up without a fight. Psychologically win without a fight.

Unless the Big One goes war to the knife. That's the risk they take. I would bet on a smaller denomination being hit first.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 12:53 PM (rwI+c)

146 Let it burn.

Posted by: goon at June 27, 2015 12:53 PM (gy5kE)

147 I think they will take down the Mormon's first. Big enough to be noticed and no one likes them anyway.

Posted by: President Obama at June 27, 2015 12:53 PM (wkuqO)

148 ***"Instead, we should go after the left's institutions that undermine the
rule of law, starting with the universities/colleges and the DEMSM.
These a*****es should feel a great deal of heat, and the public
universities that are located in states controlled by the GOP, should be
hit hard with massive changes to how they operate and who is employed
by them. Make the leftists in these organizations feel a great deal of
heat. Make them painfully aware of how much they are despised by the
Constitution-supporting Americans."***


State GOPs? Do you have any evidence of State GOPs going after any of the above and succeeding? How is a State House going to go after the MSM?


State House goes after a University that receives federal funding? Guess what happens. Feds pull funding for Education and Highways and even Healthcare. State Level reps get clobbered next election cycle.


Long March is over as soon as it starts.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (xSCb6)

149 I won't make it that far....

None of us truly understand how fragile civilization is, and how quickly it can collapse. Someone a while back here posted a bit on how fast Somalia fell from a prosperous 3rd world country on the way to being 2nd world... to horrific chaos and brutality.

Some of us know it can be fast and how fragile the bubble is, but none of us really know for sure. All I know is I feel like we're on the cusp.

I hope I'm wrong. Given the consequences to the poor, young, elderly, and sick, I'd rather the left be correct and have their utopia, I'd rather be completely mistaken in my politics and economics than see what is coming happen. I've been wrong before. But I just cannot see how in this case.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:50 PM (39g3+)


Point noted. I don't think we have anything close to 10 years left before the shit flies through the fan.

You do realize that in every Leftist attempt at utopia, the poor, young, elderly and sick are hardest hit...by design.

Posted by: Nervous German general at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (cL79m)

150 Gee, if the churches lost their tax-exempt status what would their income look like?

All their expenses would be business related. Most of their 'income' would be in the form of gifts under $10,000 per donor per year. It seems to me the government wouldn't be going after the churches so much, but the taxpayers who donate to them large dollars for the write offs, just trying to cut off funding that way.

That's not going to do anything other than break up some bigger churches that already are licking the Govts. jockstraps, and give a bigger reason to get smaller 'cells' of churches.

It would be a huge backfire for the government to do that.

Posted by: doug at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (IYEs/)

151
Has this been a shitty week? Yes, even worse for me.

Rush has been dropped from my local radio station. Rush Limbaugh is no longer on Boston radio. The Left was crowing about this, too, this week.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (rrKIh)

152 Obama will wait, keeping the pressure on, until someone defies him. The first nail to stick up will be an example to everyone else.

Posted by: Adelade Kramski at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (TBfVE)

153 I'm not really sure of the nature of Drew's complaint.

What statement would you have preferred?

"This decision is outrageous, and I call upon local governments to ignore it!"

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (ERDLa)

154 "Apropos of nothing but the eccentric orbit of the Gum Thread, J&G has C&R P64's (one mag) for less than $200. "

You're not helping with my desire to save money.

On the other hand, I did just get another 250 rds of 9x18.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (VPLuQ)

155 "Will they go after the strongest church first, or a weak single congregation? "

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My money is on the Westboro gang. Who in their right mind will stick up for them? As much as I would like to, I don't think it is possible with them given how poorly they've conducted themselves.

I'll do my best for speaking up to the general principle with plenty of caveats distancing myself from Westboro but it's going to be brutal to do a good job of defending the First Amendment when they're in the crosshairs.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (Mb6qh)

156 Yeah, the "hey kids, less pass a constitutional amendment" is a variant of failure theater - act like you're doing something when you're not; or worse doing something destructive while pretending to help. Some Congressman floated amending O-Care to make the Supreme Court use it. That kind of crap just trivializes the issue. If you can't fix it today, work to fix it tomorrow. If you're engaging in failure theater or "look, I'm doing something" crowd, you're part of the problem.

Posted by: duke at June 27, 2015 12:55 PM (enhDu)

157 ...I didn't really mean it. A person of normal intelligence would have understood this implicitly. That you were dumb enough to take my throwaway comment at face value, and dumber still to advertize your stupidity to the world, has brought things to a head, much like those pustules on your back you are always asking me to pop with a sewing needle.

Posted by: Lena Dunham's boyfriend at June 27, 2015 12:55 PM (/f6Nd)

158
Real weird vibe out there. Not a lot of happy people, judging by facial expressions, and body language.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice



No doubt because we still live in a country where the love that the polyamorous, polyandrous and those separated by an arbitrary age barrier is oppressed by the law of the land.

Time for our nation based on "love", per the Supreme Court, to get cracking to NDH8.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 12:56 PM (kdS6q)

159 120 I'm almost 50 years old. I'll likely be long dead before the really bad times come.

-
I'm not sure that's true. Destroying civilization is like skating on thin ice. At first the ice cracks slowly, then all at once.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 27, 2015 12:44 PM (mRbBS)



I commented yesterday that there's an old saying about bankruptcy: At first it happens gradually, then all at once.

I mused that it might be the same with totalitarianism. It certainly does seem to be accelerating now.

Posted by: rickl at June 27, 2015 12:57 PM (sdi6R)

160 Unless the Big One goes war to the knife. That's the risk they take. I would bet on a smaller denomination being hit first.



Smaller ones would require work to compel. Lots of work.
Feral gov is big enough to splat a large one. Then it's just a matter of mailing letters to everyone else.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 12:57 PM (G+3hN)

161 Rush has been dropped from my local radio station. Rush Limbaugh is no longer on Boston radio. The Left was crowing about this, too, this week.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (rrKIh)


Wow, just wow. Good news he is live on the internets.

Someone in government has probably noticed the internets are too free speachy

Posted by: just saying at June 27, 2015 12:57 PM (wkuqO)

162 So what Marco Rubio is saying is not that he is "law abiding" but rather that he believes the Supreme Court can create and change (not just strike down) laws despite the absence of any Constitutional authority to do so.

I can't know his mind, but I suspect he thinks the decision didn't create law, but upheld law. Which makes his legal discernment suspect, but not what you're arguing.

I agree and want churches taxed. Tired of the baloney they're selling.

Agreeing with someone's teaching or not doesn't mean they should necessarily be taxed. Tax exemption is because the organization is viewed by government to be a net benefit to society which reduces the government's load in terms of law enforcement and costs to provide services. Thus, they are given a tax break.

You might not like why churches do what they do or how they teach but churches have counseling services, support hosts of charities, have food banks, etc, etc. Almost all adoption agencies for example are religious in origin and run by churches.

Disagreeing with someone doesn't mean they should be penalized by the government. Churches are actually saving you money in taxes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:57 PM (39g3+)

163 You're not helping with my desire to save money.



It's not an expense, it's an investment. You may laugh, but I have a half a dozen of these, each with holster, two mags and that weird Polish cleaning rod, all cleaned, over oiled, and racked in the safe. I only use one for carry purposes, and it's the most beat up of the bunch, a '68 with the failed plum bluing. I honestly don't think I could lose money on them if I were inclined to sell.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 12:58 PM (rwI+c)

164 So what Marco Rubio is saying is not that he is "law abiding" but rather that he believes the Supreme Court can create and change (not just strike down) laws despite the absence of any Constitutional authority to do so.
Posted by: Jordan at June 27, 2015 12:50 PM (r9mDd)

Absolutely. I was impressed by Rubio when he first came on the scene five years ago, but he has proven to be the willow in the wind type that is trying to not offend anyone in his quest for higher office.

Which makes him incredibly unattractive.

One of the reasons I believe Obama still has a decent popularity rating is not because of what he does, but because he does what he says he is going to do. He gets things done. Even if it isn't what people want, there is a natural attractiveness to a human of someone who is sure and determined and carries through.

Which is why virtually none of the Republican candidates are attractive in a leadership sort of way. They all seem so weak and that naturally is repulsive to most humans. I think that is programmed in as a survival mechanism in us, and centuries of "enlightened thought" doesn't eliminate it.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 12:58 PM (OB/ib)

165 Just looked up the assessed value of on of the Catholic Cloisters here.

Assessed value?

4.7 million dollars.


Property tax exempt.






For now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 12:59 PM (VPLuQ)

166 Facebook resembles a Turkish bath this morning. Much LIV butt slappin' and high fivin'.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 27, 2015 12:59 PM (Dwehj)

167
It would be a huge backfire for the government to do that.
Posted by: doug



Doing stupid stuff that backfires is what government does best.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:00 PM (kdS6q)

168 Orange and Turtle need the Conservative Members in order to have what they have, but then use the RINOs and Dems to cancel the Conservative votes.

So, to all the Conservatives I say, "Go home."

Stop propping up the fake Congress.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:00 PM (MQEz6)

169 "142 As an ardent Catholic and SoCon first, FiCon second...I won't weep either when the government begins to revoke various tax privileges and such; I won't mind when "Cathollic" colleges lose federal funding. The bishops need reminding in every generation that Caesar is not your friend..."

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Same here, philosoph0123. It could even be used to our advantage. Being forced to close some inner city schools could paint the left in a very bad light.

Of course, this will require the ability to get the message out, something that isn't necessarily possible with today's media. But it could be done and the left could be left explaining why they hate poor black kids.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 27, 2015 01:00 PM (Mb6qh)

170 Doing stupid stuff that backfires is what government does best.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:00 PM (kdS6q)


And then doubling down and powering ahead.

Posted by: just saying at June 27, 2015 01:01 PM (wkuqO)

171 My money is on the Westboro gang. Who in their right mind will stick up for them?

Given that they're by definition apostate and no longer a Christian Church (if they ever were) I feel no kinship toward them as a Christian. And I seriously doubt their filed as a tax exempt body.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:01 PM (39g3+)

172
Woo hoo!

I just found out that Rush Limbaugh will be on a different radio station in Boston. A tiny station, only 5000K watts but that's okay.

This station is even better than the old one. WRKO can go horsefuck, except from 3p-7p when Howie Carr is on.

New lineup for Boston's newest conservative talk radio station:

FOX Sports Daybreak with Andy Furman/Mike North 6-9 a.m.
The Glenn Beck Program, 9-Noon
The Rush Limbaugh Show, Noon-3 p.m.
The Sean Hannity Show, 3-6 p.m
America Now, 6-9 p.m.
The Mark Levin Show, 9 p.m.-Midnight
Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis, Midnight-1 a.m
FOX Sports, 1-6 a.m.
The Jason Smith Show, 1-2 a.m.
The Ben Maller Show, 2-6 a.m.


Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:01 PM (rrKIh)

173 I can't know his mind, but I suspect he thinks the decision didn't create law, but upheld law. Which makes his legal discernment suspect, but not what you're arguing.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:57 PM (39g3+)

Except that it didn't uphold law, it struck down the law and overturned constitutions in 13 different states. What the SC did was decree that the state constitutional amendments, duly voted on by state's citizens in various states such as Michigan, are null and void.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 01:02 PM (OB/ib)

174 Wow, just wow. Good news he is live on the internets.

Someone in government has probably noticed the internets are too free speachy

Posted by: just saying at June 27, 2015 12:57 PM (wkuqO)


We're working on that. We've logged your IP and will send either our own goon squad or the FBI "Hostage" "Rescue" Team by when we get a chance.

Posted by: The FCC at June 27, 2015 01:02 PM (cL79m)

175 "You may laugh, but I have a half a dozen of these, each with holster, two mags and that weird Polish cleaning rod, all cleaned, over oiled, and racked in the safe."

How I envy you.

The one that I currently own is very nice shooting.

As a matter of fact, had it to the range yesterday.

Reliable as hell, and easily conceal carried.

If only one could legally carry in Martin O'Malley former State.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 01:02 PM (VPLuQ)

176 "State GOPs? Do you have any evidence of State GOPs going after any of the above and succeeding? How is a State House going to go after the MSM?"

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Wisconsin just made an effort to change tenure. Admittedly, it's a small step but it can be expanded.

We need to expand this to other states. The academic forest is full of dry tinder and all that is needed is a small fire and a good wind.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 27, 2015 01:03 PM (Mb6qh)

177 I expect a little blow back from the bible thumpers while I fundamentally change America. But I do not expect to hear any flack from the press, this will all blow over.

Posted by: president obama at June 27, 2015 01:03 PM (wkuqO)

178 This country has been burning for a long time. Most of you are fascinated (and fixed in place) by the very fire that will consume you.

Posted by: Ceteris Paribus at June 27, 2015 01:03 PM (lQqJB)

179
153 I'm not really sure of the nature of Drew's complaint.

What statement would you have preferred?

"This decision is outrageous, and I call upon local governments to ignore it!"

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (ERDLa)

Yes, exactly that.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:03 PM (MQEz6)

180 122 Just got back from Wegmans.

Real weird vibe out there.

Not a lot of happy people, judging by facial expressions, and body language.

Eh...probably nothing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 12:45 PM (VPLuQ)



It used to be said that foreigners could spot Americans by our optimism, body language, and confident way of walking.

It's probably not the same any more. Fundamental transformation and all that.

Posted by: rickl at June 27, 2015 01:04 PM (sdi6R)

181 There is something Rubio or any other Congresscritter could do. Their f*cking job. There is nothing in the Constitution making the SCOTUS exempt from the checks and balances in our government. Nothing.

So introduce a one paragraph bill something like this:

"Congress find no lawful authority for the recent ruling of the Supreme Court on homosexual marriage, it usurps the Legislative power at best, assuming the 10th Amendment doesn't forbid it to Congress as well. We also find their ruling on Obamacare an unlawful usurpation of the Legislative power. Both rulings are therefore null and void."

No supermajority needed but Obama would of course veto without one. The Senate can't stop it with a filibuster either, that is more feigned helplessness too. LET THEM FILIBUSTER. Let them rant and rave, capture the video for future campaigns and then when they exhaust themselves hold the damned vote.

The second Obama vetos the bill the 2016 election is a single issue election, reigning in a lawless court. Hold the focus there, don't let the media wing of the Prog Party distract with details of Ocare or teh gheys.

And if the so called 'conservative' Republicans can't even
muster a bare majority then that too would make useful fodder for the
coming election cycle.

Last I heard Sen. Rubio is a sitting U.S. Senator and can introduce legislation, can he not? There is no spending or taxing in that one paragraph so there is no need to begin in the House. So we need to ask him why he is just bending over and taking it. He is putting himself out as a leader, demonstrate it.

Posted by: John Morris at June 27, 2015 01:04 PM (JiDdW)

182
btw, I'd take Trump over Rubio any day.

In fact, I will NEVER vote for Rubio or any of the R candidates.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:04 PM (rrKIh)

183 Scalia spoke truth; this was a "judicial Putsch." What I propose will never happen, although if conservatives kept courage and faith, they could possibly prevail. Not unbloodied, of course, and that is the tragedy, because worthy victories always demand the blood of patriots and tyrants, and our professional conservatives now seem passionately interested in minor pains only so that they may avoid actual bloody combat, which surely is deadly.

But hear me. We have long ignored the concept of checks and balances, and while many will argue (1) that judicial activism is founded in honest belief, and therefore no crime, and that (2) the political ramifications would be too horrible, I disagree.

The Legislative Branch should now, faithfully and immediately, exercise its mandate to supervise and superintend the Judiciary. They should:

Impeach Justices Kennedy, Breyer, Ginsburg, Kagan, and Sotomayor. Heck. Chief Justice Roberts, too. And they should impeach every federal judge who oversteps the limits of the Constitution. Every one. Every time. Good faith and mistaken judgement notwithstanding, neither incompetence nor malice can stand when our Liberty stands tied to a pole surrounded by flaming kindling.

And then, at a minimum, the Republican Senate should refuse to confirm any Supreme Court Justices while the current administration lasts. And it seems not to much to ask, when they do confirm anyone, to demand faithful adherence to the Constitution. Call it a litmus test if you will.

As necessary--damn Saul D. Alinsky!--rinse and repeat.

Posted by: Rusty at June 27, 2015 01:04 PM (Cl0Yn)

184 Anyone with a 5 year outlook is an optimist.

Posted by: Weasel at June 27, 2015 01:05 PM (e3bId)

185 Historically speaking Christianity has done best in terms of outreach and purity of belief when under persecution. You don't crush Christianity by stomping on it. You spread it. Its awful for the people involved, but in the end, you only make it stronger. I'm not worried about the church. I'm worried about individual lives in the process.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:05 PM (39g3+)

186 btw, I'd take Trump over Rubio any day.


In fact, I will NEVER vote for Rubio or any of the R candidates.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:04 PM (rrKIh)
I think I agree on this as well. Rubio is as big of a traitor to conservatism as Jeb I think.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:06 PM (pmv/9)

187
173 I can't know his mind, but I suspect he thinks the decision didn't create law, but upheld law. Which makes his legal discernment suspect, but not what you're arguing.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:57 PM (39g3+)

Except that it didn't uphold law, it struck down the law and overturned constitutions in 13 different states. What the SC did was decree that the state constitutional amendments, duly voted on by state's citizens in various states such as Michigan, are null and void.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 01:02 PM (OB/ib)

Indeed.

If just one State would say, "Lick me.."

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:06 PM (MQEz6)

188
Yes, exactly that.

Co-signed.

Yes, I expect leadership from a man or woman who, get this, wants to be a leader.



Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:06 PM (rrKIh)

189 Rick Perry yesterday posted the same usual, "I'll pick originalist Justices that won't legislate from the bench!"

Well, I'm sure you'll try, but the GOP ALWAYS fucks it up. Hell, even Reagan went 1/3.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at June 27, 2015 01:06 PM (ERDLa)

190 Has this been a shitty week? Yes, even worse for me.

Rush has been dropped from my local radio station. Rush Limbaugh is no longer on Boston radio. The Left was crowing about this, too, this week.


Next week is the last week of Rush on the radio in Indianapolis. He's being replaced by Dana Loesch. They're going for the young and hip or something.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 27, 2015 01:06 PM (W5DcG)

191 How I envy you.

You should see the safe sometime. Mrs928 has asked me more that once if I am starting a militia, but the fact is, every piece I have is now worth more than I paid for it, in some cases like the PSLs, +40%.

I'm not getting any ROI like that from anything else. Hell, I bought cans of 54r at $54.95 and it's going for nearly $120 now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 01:07 PM (rwI+c)

192 Posted by: Rusty at June 27, 2015 01:04 PM (Cl0Yn)

You left out the part where your favorite movie star takes you to the prom.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:07 PM (MQEz6)

193 122 Just got back from Wegmans.

Real weird vibe out there.

Not a lot of happy people, judging by facial expressions, and body language.

Eh...probably nothing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 12:45 PM (VPLuQ)

I went to a local community event last night that included a small rodeo. I was struck by the thoughtful prayer that invoked Jesus Christ given by the cowboy announcer prior to the start and then was almost in tears over the cowgirl loping her horse around the arena carrying the flag while all sang the Star Spangled Banner. Tears for what our country has become under the boot of a minority but also appreciation for the many fellow Americans who still believe in this country's founding.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 01:07 PM (OB/ib)

194 Scalia spoke truth; this was a "judicial Putsch."

Exactly. A little more formal than in a beer hall, but the result may well end up being quite similar.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 27, 2015 01:08 PM (Dwehj)

195 To the people who represent them, politics is bloodsport.

To the people who represent us, it's a friendly croquet match at the country club. You won? Oh well, nice game! See you in the courtyard for a glass of lemonade!

The idea that sending more conservatives to Washington will fix this problem is fucked. It's completely absurd.

Article V. I don't know if it will work, but what else is there to do?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 27, 2015 01:08 PM (KVRil)

196 "State House goes after a University that receives federal funding? Guess what happens. Feds pull funding for Education and Highways and even Healthcare. State Level reps get clobbered next election cycle.
"

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Maybe. The GOP in Congress may not be able to stop this but they can make the case that the Feds are acting in an inappropriate manner when it comes to the States. The Dems aren't in power through most of the country and this sort of an action could be shown to be how unsuited they are to governing.

If this is too risky to do while Obama is in office, then it can wait until a Republican takes over the WH and the GOP has control of Congress. Then hit the universities with this full-tilt. In any event, let the Democrats defend the sorry state of our universities.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 27, 2015 01:08 PM (Mb6qh)

197 If we get out of this with a new nation ... and I have my doubts ... I suggest we simply don't repeat the notion of a Federal Judiciary.

The very notion that nine men or women can be entrusted with the power to impose law over the will of a State, with a lifetime appointment, WITHOUT that body becoming a corrupt entity is total naive bullshit. It smells of the same "things will work out if we only trust our betters" crap that Progressives believe.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 27, 2015 01:08 PM (FAbks)

198 Congress and the president hide behind the Supreme Court.

Remember back to McCain Feingold campaign finance reform. Bush signed it knowing it was unconstitutional and even said he thought the court would knock it down. The court did but only partially.

It is all about voting present.

Posted by: just saying at June 27, 2015 01:08 PM (wkuqO)

199

I just want Texas to say Fuck You to obama and his Court.

Texas should not issue marriage licences to sexual perverts. Let's see what happens. What's obama gonna do, send troops?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:09 PM (rrKIh)

200 What's obama gonna do, send troops?

Yes. Yes he will.

Folks ... it's incredibly easy to forecast this out. Just read up on the Civil Rights Act. This will go down the same way. Federal Troops will be mustered if necessary.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 27, 2015 01:10 PM (FAbks)

201 Texas should not issue marriage licences to sexual perverts. Let's see what happens. What's obama gonna do, send troops?


Well, actually yeah. It would be his pleasure.

Posted by: just saying at June 27, 2015 01:10 PM (wkuqO)

202 Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (ERDLa)

How about a statement that demonstrates that he's concerned and angry that the Supreme Court is ripping the Constitution to shreds?

He acted as if this were just some simple case involving a contract or something.

He's made it quite clear he's indifferent to and accpeting of judicial power grabs. That should scare people.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 27, 2015 01:10 PM (5LM4o)

203 Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 27, 2015 01:08 PM (Mb6qh)

The GOP is in on it.

They are not going to do a damn thing.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:10 PM (MQEz6)

204 It used to be said that foreigners could spot Americans by our optimism, body language, and confident way of walking.

We have been "fundamentally transformed".

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 27, 2015 01:10 PM (W5DcG)

205
Federal Troops will be mustered if necessary.

Then so be it. I will be in Texas when it happens and I will hold the line.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:11 PM (rrKIh)

206 ***"I just found out that Rush Limbaugh will be on a different radio station
in Boston. A tiny station, only 5000K watts but that's okay."***


Something tells me they won't be tiny for very much longer.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 01:11 PM (xSCb6)

207 So I'm in my 50s, so the hell that's coming won't bother me too much. I'll likely be dead before it all goes into the crapper. However, I've got 3 small kids to think of. When I think of what the future holds for them, I start to despair. Until, of course, I remember that despair won't help me protect them.

I'm reminded of this particular exchange from "The Village":

Ivy Walker: How is it that you are so brave while the rest of us shake in our boots?

Lucius Hunt: I don't think of what might happen, only what must be done.


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I already have a pretty idea what's going to happen. At this point, I'm busy working on what must be done. And that is what I would suggest for everyone.

Posted by: physics geek at June 27, 2015 01:12 PM (llWHs)

208
This isn't about blacks or race. This is about a sexual lifestyle. This is about men having husbands.

I'll hold the line and see if any U.S. troops will fire on me.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:12 PM (rrKIh)

209 Just double checked AIM Surplus on the P-64s.

Down to $239.00 with two mags, and free shipping.

J&G wants $199.00 with only one mag, add $24.87 shipping, plus only one mag, and condition is listed as "good". Second mag is a $20.00 up-charge.

J&Gs next higher offering is $229.00 for very good, with one mag, plus the $25.00 shipping.

AIM seems to still come in as $45.00 cheaper total for a VG condition, two mags, and shipping.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 01:12 PM (VPLuQ)

210 So ... DrewM ... I've hit the point where I'm voting AGAINST Republicans in 2016. I'd be delighted to see the House, Senate, and Presidency go to the Dems - both to send a message to the GOP as well as to get the pain of a National Implosion over just a little quicker.

I'd like to know how you stand on the topic.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 27, 2015 01:12 PM (FAbks)

211 I just want Texas to say Fuck You to obama and his Court.



Texas should not issue marriage licences to sexual perverts. Let's see what happens. What's obama gonna do, send troops?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:09 PM (rrKIh)

It'd be funny, but I doubt it'll happen. Alabama is the only one I can think that might do it. Alabama would be tempted just to keep the tax revenues. Gay marriage is going to drop taxes on the gays, and the govt is going to have to up revenues somewheres.....

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:12 PM (pmv/9)

212 Any candidate that refers to this as a fucking "law" is AUTOMATICALLY disqualified imho.

Posted by: Prescient11 at June 27, 2015 01:13 PM (Au7Z/)

213 State governments can tell the Feds to eat shit.

They won't, but they can.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:13 PM (MQEz6)

214 It used to be said that foreigners could spot Americans by our optimism, body language, and confident way of walking.

I doubt its true any longer. Americans are bend down by oppression and cowardice like everywhere else now. That's what Obama wanted though. What they called "optimism and confidence," he called "arrogance."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:13 PM (39g3+)

215 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 12:57 PM (39g3+)


They've made it clear they will collaborate with people to restrict my liberty so long as theirs is preserved.

Enough.

You want big government? You get to experience it like the rest of us.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 27, 2015 01:13 PM (5LM4o)

216 I'll hold the line and see if any U.S. troops will fire on me.

If Texas talks secession ... I'll join you. And I'm not even in Texas.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 27, 2015 01:14 PM (FAbks)

217 Next week is the last week of Rush on the radio in Indianapolis. He's being replaced by Dana Loesch. They're going for the young and hip or something.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 27, 2015 01:06 PM (W5DcG)

As much as I love Rush and appreciate what he has done to lend voice to conservatives, his programs have become, um, stale to say the least. They are five minutes of his dialog or a caller, then ten minutes of commercials, then a plug for Rush Revere, then commericals, etc. He has overreached the tipping point of commercials and I have stopped tuning in most days.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 01:14 PM (OB/ib)

218 I'll hold the line and see if any U.S. troops will fire on me.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:12 PM (rrKIh)


No one knows who fired the first shot at Lexington.

Posted by: just saying at June 27, 2015 01:14 PM (wkuqO)

219 I'll hold the line and see if any U.S. troops will fire on me.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:12 PM (rrKIh)

We'd probably just be ordered to arrest and take over the state government. There will be lots of turncoats in the state government who will work for the feds if a state trys to buck gay marriage this.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:14 PM (pmv/9)

220
obama should be impeached for a lot of things, but not defending DOMA, which he SWORE AN OATH to do, is one



Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:14 PM (rrKIh)

221 btw, I'd take Trump over Rubio any day.

In fact, I will NEVER vote for Rubio or any of the R candidates.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:04 PM (rrKIh)
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Hear, hear. I'm sleeping with a rhino. I don't need to vote for one.

Posted by: Lena Dunham's boyfriend at June 27, 2015 01:15 PM (F1Z8f)

222
Texas should not issue marriage licences to sexual perverts. Let's see what happens. What's obama gonna do, send troops?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:09 PM (rrKIh)



But only gay and tranny troops under the Rainbow flag

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2015 01:15 PM (DiZBp)

223 Texas should not issue marriage licences to sexual perverts. Let's see what happens. What's obama gonna do, send troops?

They don't have to. They'll just threaten to withhold matching funds and federal dollars and the state government will roll over like a whipped dog and piss themselves begging for forgiveness.

Back in Lincoln's time, they had no leverage over the states.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:16 PM (39g3+)

224
Rush is stale??

You didn't listen to him this week, then. Thursday's and Friday's first hour monologues were two of his best ever.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:16 PM (rrKIh)

225 obama should be impeached for a lot of things, but not defending DOMA, which he SWORE AN OATH to do, is one
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:14 PM (rrKIh)

He's never been one to support rule of law. I listened to just the opening 3 minutes of his gay press conference yesterday and all he talked about was how we have to re-interpret laws as time progresses..... which is admitting that the law never is solid.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:16 PM (pmv/9)

226 Party at Grump928 (c)'s place!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 01:16 PM (VPLuQ)

227 >Big government is the best salesman for small government. It's time we let it loose on it's supporters.

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

Posted by: salfter at June 27, 2015 01:17 PM (Qr9mV)

228
Skimmed the comments, but Jordan and John Morris at least are on to the right idea.

No, Chris Taylor, the bland/automatic/meaningless "we will comply with the court's decision" is NOT the right approach, does NOT constitute any sort of useful response, in ways exceeding reasonable comment length (even for me!).

Discussed this late one ONT with Caesar North of the Rubicon, about a similar situation WRT Hamdan v. Bush, when Kennedy (!) completely departed any good-faith or sane course and simply completely inverted the plain undisputed meaning of treaty language to produce a "decision" as absurd as the O-care one this week. One of Bush's great errors - meekly complying. The court - one guy, actually, plus the 4 statist stooge/freaks whose names people are probably starting to forget, such idiotic apparatchiks for state power they have become - literally and clearly usurped the treaty power, rewrote a key provision of a treaty, and then used that to hamstring the govt. in time of war.

Acceding to that idiocy only weakens and endangers the system - in fact, irony of ironies, Roberts himself wrote in dissent to that decision that the court's "bait and switch" bad-faith ballet with Congress threatened the very constitutional system. Which is the point.

When the SCOTUS is both wildly exceeding its authority (cramming every issue it pleases into a "civil rights" framework) and then using that authority arbitrarily and absurdly (marriage redefinition), no, the bland mewlings of compliance with the court are not a useful response. The system IS broken. The crisis is in not fixing it, NOT in acknowledging it's broken.

Congress' authority to define jurisdiction and reach of the courts lies there, almost never used in history. As some above note, USE it - or try to, and again, for the billionth time, USE that split as a differentiating factor to give voters and society some choice, some idea that there IS a choice. Basic politics 101, for a party/group actually interested in winning, and for a purpose.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 27, 2015 01:17 PM (QDnY+)

229 To you article V folks I say paragraph two of the Declaration of Independence. You have no clue that the fire is past deadly.

Posted by: Ceteris Paribus at June 27, 2015 01:17 PM (lQqJB)

230
Texas should not issue marriage licences to sexual perverts. Let's see what happens. What's obama gonna do, send troops?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful



Per Gabe, yes.

Yesterday, ala twit, he compared those who were urging state nullification of gay marriage to Orval Faubus.

Wiki it for those who don't know the historical reference, but [spoiler] it ends with the 101st Airborn on your lawn enforcing a Federal court's judgement.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:18 PM (kdS6q)

231 He has overreached the tipping point of commercials and I have stopped tuning in most days.

It's not just him, though. It's pervasive throughout radio. I've stopped listening to sports talk because it has also become commercials with a smattering of sports mixed in. That, and the unpleasant fact that the SJWs have totally infiltrated the forum.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 27, 2015 01:18 PM (Dwehj)

232 "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

Posted by: salfter at June 27, 2015 01:17 PM (Qr9mV)

I love how in a Democracy we get the government we deserve.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:18 PM (pmv/9)

233 As much as I love Rush and appreciate what he has done to lend voice to conservatives, his programs have become, um, stale to say the least.

I noticed over a decade ago that everything he had to say I'd heard or read already online the day before, and he wasn't amusing any more. I will always respect the man for what he accomplished and did in the past, but he's just not very good radio any more.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:19 PM (39g3+)

234 You didn't listen to him this week, then. Thursday's and Friday's first hour monologues were two of his best ever.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:16 PM (rrKIh)

Your're right and I would love to hear that his program has returned to it's high quality. Guess I need to check out his webpage and listen to those shows

Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 01:19 PM (OB/ib)

235 For some reason the local homo-nazis are installing a giant pink triangle on a hillside in the SF Bay area to push for acceptance and equality for the LGBTQIMPDDR-S1(a &b type)VY.

WTF? Did they not watch the news yesterday?

No, it's all part of the gay pride month celebration - and gloating isn't enough. Total surrender. Submit, obey and bend over.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 27, 2015 01:19 PM (sH832)

236 ***"How about a statement that demonstrates that he's concerned and angry
that the Supreme Court is ripping the Constitution to shreds?"***


Every branch is currently shredding it. The GOP is even complicit in the Senate and this guy is a GOP buttboy.


Not gonna happen.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 01:20 PM (xSCb6)

237 They don't have to. They'll just threaten to withhold matching funds and federal dollars and the state government will roll over like a whipped dog and piss themselves begging for forgiveness.



It would be financially hard, but Texas could secede. The US needs us more than we need them.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 01:21 PM (G+3hN)

238
Per Gabe, yes.

Well, Gabriel Malor is a totalitarian cocksucker just like obama and David Brock. So that explains that.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:21 PM (rrKIh)

239 It would be financially hard, but Texas could secede. The US needs us more than we need them.

Long as we have the Dakotas I'm not so sure of that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:22 PM (39g3+)

240 Posted by: rhomboid at June 27, 2015 01:17 PM (QDnY+)

Congress is not going to do that.

Congress and the Executive and the Courts created this problem.

Why would we expect them to solve it?

A broken system cannot fix itself.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:22 PM (MQEz6)

241 John Roberts: the "Let it Burn" justice

Posted by: West Town at June 27, 2015 01:22 PM (/iupQ)

242 No, it's all part of the gay pride month celebration - and gloating isn't enough. Total surrender. Submit, obey and bend over.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 27, 2015 01:19 PM (sH832)

Yeah they were walking downtown Atlanta too, but they stayed out of black neighborhoods. The funny part is how often I hear hetero liberals at work joke about gay people. The most common joke is about "science be damned." I don't think hetero liberals, at least the thinking ones, see gays as anything as an temporary ally.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:22 PM (pmv/9)

243
How about a statement that demonstrates that he's concerned and angry that the Supreme Court is ripping the Constitution to shreds? He acted as if this were just some simple case involving a contract or something.
Posted by: DrewM.




Rubio and Bush have expressed far more outrage at the mere mention of the idea of restricting Florida sugar producers' price supports.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:23 PM (kdS6q)

244 No, it's all part of the gay pride month celebration - and gloating isn't enough. Total surrender. Submit, obey and bend over.

No, it's about sooooo much more than that. It's about total control of the individual - absolute submission to the State.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 27, 2015 01:23 PM (Dwehj)

245 Wow

Second Catholic Convent, the smaller one.

Assessed value?
4.66 million.
Property tax exempt.


That's like 9.7 million in taxable property for just two Catholic Church owned properties off the top of my head.


Now, anybody know why Charleston is known as the Holy city?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 01:24 PM (VPLuQ)

246
153 I'm not really sure of the nature of Drew's complaint. What statement would you have preferred? "This decision is outrageous, and I call upon local governments to ignore it!"
Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (ERDLa)


A sickening usurpation of power. Destruction of democracy. Flies in the face of the tenth amendment.

Posted by: buzzion at June 27, 2015 01:24 PM (zt+N6)

247 Thomas was pretty impressive in his discussion on positive rights in his dissent.

Posted by: West Town at June 27, 2015 01:24 PM (/iupQ)

248 Rubio and Bush have expressed far more outrage at the mere mention of the idea of restricting Florida sugar producers' price supports.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:23 PM (kdS6q)

I didn't know that, but it makes sense. If they cut back the free stuff to business, the donations stop, if they cut back the free stuff to the people the votes stop.

Posted by: just saying at June 27, 2015 01:25 PM (wkuqO)

249 Long as we have the Dakotas I'm not so sure of that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:22 PM (39g3+)
By all means keep the Dakotas

Posted by: Velvet Ambition greatest thing since before sliced bread at June 27, 2015 01:25 PM (R8hU8)

250 13 How anyone could possibly imagine that we live in a republic is just beyond me.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 27, 2015 12:12 PM (YFw5T)


I'd purport that we live in a *banana* republic.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 27, 2015 01:25 PM (EHU9F)

251
push for acceptance and equality for the LGBTQIMPDDR-S1(a b type)VY.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo



I can't even try to write it out anymore.

I just go LGBTQGOSUB20

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:25 PM (kdS6q)

252 Somewhere 'out there' is a point. We can't see it from here, we can't even recognize it when we get to 'that point'. We will have to progress well beyond that point before we can look back and say, "yep, went too far. Shouldn't have done that. It was a mistake."

By then, it's too late.

Posted by: Adelade Kramski at June 27, 2015 01:26 PM (TBfVE)

253 I remember how Gabe started his career here. He posted long comments about the law and soon became a coblogger.

This place was a nice stepping stone for him.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:26 PM (MQEz6)

254 push for acceptance and equality for the LGBTQIMPDDR-S1(a b type)VY.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo



I can't even try to write it out anymore.

I just go LGBTQGOSUB20
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:25 PM (kdS6q)


I have no idea what that means, but I'm grateful Im not included.

Posted by: just saying at June 27, 2015 01:26 PM (wkuqO)

255 Thomas was pretty impressive in his discussion on positive rights in his dissent.

He's not running for a national office. Opposing homosexual marriage is 100% guaranteed electoral poison. This election will be decided by who the voters think is the most supportive and nice to homosexuals, period. And true or not, fair or not, people think that's Hillary.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:26 PM (39g3+)

256 My god, even Bing has gotten on board with the gay marriage cheerleading with their fucking picture today.


I'm going to have to use Alta Vista or some shit now.


You literally cannot escape this shit. The cultural left is fucking everywhere.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 01:27 PM (xSCb6)

257 I'm grateful Im not included.

Amen. The lunacy inside that club would be absolutely overwhelming.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 27, 2015 01:28 PM (Dwehj)

258 Liberals have been telling us for years how good Big Government is for all of us -- from the thousands of pages of regulations announced each year to the hundreds of myriad laws which we break without knowing it was even illegal. For years we have been told its good for us.

Enough is enough.

We must adopt the tactics of the left and place the shoe firmly, painfully on the other foot. If everything we have been told is good for us then they will not mind if we invite Big Government to scrutinize their activities.

This action must first target the LOWEST levels of the liberal middle class -- the ones with some resources but not enough to really fight back. Go to their place of businesses with tape measures and notepads and document the thousands of violations of various regulations you see -- Health Codes, Fire Codes, Employment Practices, Americans With Disability Act compliance, Signage Laws, display of business tax certificates, truthfulness in advertising, do they ensure their outside trash receptacles are properly secured to prevent littering, are they following laws for public parking, etc. etc. etc.

Measure. Photograph. Document. And turn it all over to your local bureaucracy for code enforcement.

But most importantly follow up on that bureaucracy and ensure that they are taking action! When they fail to do so inundate your local council or commission meetings with complaints -- why are we paying for these bureaucrats if they will not enforce the laws on the books? Inundate them with your complaints, phone calls and messages of failure, incompetence and lack of enforcement. And if they refuse to comply we must file lawsuits to force them to comply -- either the regulations and codes are enforceable against everyone equally or they are not.

We must be like a swarm of locusts descending on a fertile field and leave NOTHING but a dry, barren waste behind. But this.... this is the price to pay for living under the heavy weight of Big Government -- and it can't be too bad since we are told it is so good.

We must use every obscure law, regulation, act, edict or code against the left. We must force them to use their meager resources to comply with what they have told us is so good for us. Lawfare is a legitimate tactic of the left and they have spent decades condoning such actions -- we will simply apply their own rules and tactics against them.

The end result will either be a diminished size of the State or outright rebellion -- either way it will kick start change.

Posted by: nevyan at June 27, 2015 01:28 PM (zxWyw)

259 We will have to progress well beyond that point before we can look back and say, "yep, went too far. Shouldn't have done that. It was a mistake."

This was the core of my argument against drug legalization. You can't put that genie back in the bottle. If its too far, you cannot ever go back.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:28 PM (39g3+)

260
DrewM, not that there's anything there other than small-market fluff to start with, but with Rubio, his amnesty idiocy was comprehensively and histrionically diqualifying. Obviously.

Share your utter indifference to the "sufferings" of thesocial fascists, er, "social justice" warriors, incl. in the "religious" community, esp. the RCC,if it comes to that. Though it won't, probably.

Have been some small hits like the Catholic charities adoption outrage, but I can't see this getting big. Might - might - wake up a few idiotic Dem tribal and soft-headed NPR suburban do-gooder types who would be astonished that the lawless federal govt. and abortion-freak party they enabled were messing up their precious charity work, and that's not desirable.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 27, 2015 01:29 PM (QDnY+)

261 You literally cannot escape this shit. The cultural left is fucking everywhere.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 01:27 PM (xSCb6)

I am staying off of Facebook. I have close relatives, heteros, who overcoated their own wedding photo with rainbow colors. I have another acquaintance who is posting a new pro gay marriage photo, cartoon, etc. every hour..she is also straight.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 01:29 PM (OB/ib)

262 How many Christian churches believe that Karl Marx was the second coming of Christ?

Posted by: Ceteris Paribus at June 27, 2015 01:29 PM (lQqJB)

263 That's like 9.7 million in taxable property for just two Catholic Church owned properties off the top of my head.
--------------

Link?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 27, 2015 01:29 PM (9mTYi)

264
LGBTQGOSUB20

I have no idea what that means
Posted by: just saying




That joke would have killed in the high school computer lab.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:29 PM (kdS6q)

265 I can't even try to write it out anymore.
I just go LGBTQGOSUB20



A-Z.
Fuck them. They aren't worth more effort.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 01:29 PM (G+3hN)

266 Denton County Texas is refusing to issue licenses for gay marriages now. It's on Bing

Posted by: traumakitty at June 27, 2015 01:30 PM (/gawK)

267 I'm dating a Victoria's Secret model. I will share some of my best pick up lines with this fellow Rubio, as a token of my appreciation.

Posted by: Miley Cyrus at June 27, 2015 01:30 PM (F1Z8f)

268
He posted long comments about the law and soon became a coblogger.

While he was a law school student. He was a knowitall back then, too. Ace took a liking towards him because he was in law school and shared the same disdain for social conservatives. So Ace let him blog here.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:31 PM (rrKIh)

269 Hillary is the candidate for the hyper-emotive. I am beyond thinking that anyone but the more sophisticated see beyond that.

Posted by: West Town at June 27, 2015 01:31 PM (/iupQ)

270 Posted by: nevyan at June 27, 2015 01:28 PM (zxWyw)

Big problem with that solution, is that we got jobs and families.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:31 PM (pmv/9)

271 I have another acquaintance who is posting a new pro gay marriage photo, cartoon, etc. every hour..she is also straight.

Same here and I don't even pretend to understand it.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 27, 2015 01:31 PM (Dwehj)

272
Je Suis Denton County Texas

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:32 PM (rrKIh)

273 How The Left Changed the Public's Mind on Gay Marriage:

LiV Public: We don't like gay marriage.

The Left: YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT ANYWAY!!!

LiV Public: Oh, okay...

The Left: THE PUBLIC FAVORS GAY MARRIAGE!!!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 27, 2015 01:32 PM (oVJmc)

274 Denton County Texas is refusing to issue licenses for gay marriages now. It's on Bing
Posted by: traumakitty at June 27, 2015 01:30 PM (/gawK)

If any of our embedded lawyers here can explain this, Fox reported this morning that the SC ruling will not become law for a few weeks because the dissenter get to argue their dissents...

I have never heard of this? Can anyone explain?

Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 01:32 PM (OB/ib)

275 My god, even Bing has gotten on board with the gay marriage cheerleading with their fucking picture today.

I find Paul's teaching on meat offered to idols in Corinthians useful here. We're surrounded by people who hate God, are you surprised when they celebrate it? If you stop patronizing people who disagree with you stupidly, you're going to have to live in a cave. Its just a matter of laughing at them and going on.

Go to their place of businesses with tape measures and notepads and document the thousands of violations of various regulations you see -- Health Codes, Fire Codes, Employment Practices, Americans With Disability Act compliance, Signage Laws, display of business tax certificates, truthfulness in advertising, do they ensure their outside trash receptacles are properly secured to prevent littering, are they following laws for public parking, etc. etc. etc.

This has actually worked quite well regarding abortion clinics. More than a few have been shut down for many, many violations of laws and regulations.

Its a powerful weapon; nobody can possibly keep all those regulations and laws, nobody can possibly obey all the rules that they so heartily embraced and loved.

Its like forcing reporters to face the same level of scrutiny, shame, and humiliation they heap on others. Full transparency, make them feel it too.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:33 PM (39g3+)

276 What's the point of refusing to issue licenses? They will just get a court order making them or face fines and/or jail.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 27, 2015 01:33 PM (iQIUe)

277 I just go LGBTQGOSUB20

Notnormal$ = "LGBTQ"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 27, 2015 01:33 PM (9mTYi)

278
271 I have another acquaintance who is posting a new pro gay marriage photo, cartoon, etc. every hour..she is also straight. Same here and I don't even pretend to understand it.
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 27, 2015 01:31 PM (Dwehj)


Daddy issues. They're sticking it to daddy by showing that they support it. "You can't make me go to my room dad! You can't tell me I'm not allowed to do something! I'm a grown-up!"

Posted by: buzzion at June 27, 2015 01:33 PM (zt+N6)

279 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:18 PM (kdS6q)


As soon as people realize that Fair Weather Lawreaders like Malor are closer to the enemy and NOT allies, the better.


I'm sick to death of these people.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 01:34 PM (xSCb6)

280 A black woman from NC climbed over the fence surrounding the monument, climbed the flag pole, and removed the confederate battle flag. She was arrested and had been charged with defacing a monument on State House grounds. She could get 5 years and/or $5K fine. I hope she gets both.


This is what happens when you give in to the SJW crowd.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 01:34 PM (GpgJl)

281 I am staying off of Facebook. I have close relatives, heteros, who overcoated their own wedding photo with rainbow colors. I have another acquaintance who is posting a new pro gay marriage photo, cartoon, etc.
every hour..she is also straight.



Gots to be in the kewl klub.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 01:34 PM (G+3hN)

282 "Link?"

Let me try.

It's a Baltimore County Government page called
MyNeighborhood.

http://myneighborhood.baltimorecountymd.gov

From within it, you can drill down to property tax records.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 01:34 PM (VPLuQ)

283
I have another acquaintance who is posting a new pro gay marriage photo, cartoon, etc. every hour..she is also straight.

Same here and I don't even pretend to understand it.
Posted by: Uncle Busyhands



Girls and their irrational love of guys that like to gossip, go shopping and tell them they're pretty to their face -- while calling them a fat breeder bitch behind their back.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:34 PM (kdS6q)

284
What's the point of making a stand? Is that what you're asking?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:34 PM (rrKIh)

285 Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 01:29 PM (OB/ib)


I've been loving the Jesus pictures supporting gay marriage. I've just been bombing them with Matthew 19:4.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:34 PM (pmv/9)

286 How many Christian churches believe that Karl Marx was the second coming of Christ?

None, but some that claim to be Christian churches seem to think so.

I have another acquaintance who is posting a new pro gay marriage photo, cartoon, etc. every hour..she is also straight.

Its useful when fools self-identify. It warns you in advance that you'll have to interact with them more carefully, using smaller words and more pictures in the future. Like little children.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:35 PM (39g3+)

287 Daddy issues. They're sticking it to daddy by showing that they support it.

Good enough for me.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 27, 2015 01:35 PM (Dwehj)

288 If gabe has truly said that well then i'd say he's a bigot as well.

And he can fuck off.

Posted by: Prescient11 at June 27, 2015 01:36 PM (Au7Z/)

289
DrewM, exactly (statement actually with content, responsive to the situation).

Look, folks, step back and think for a second. Is a mindless - and baseless - drone response that "we must respect the decision of the court" adequate when the system is off the rails? The court is, quite literally now, making s**t up and legislating - in a spectacular fashion.

The reductio ad absurdum in this case is pretty obvious. And we've reached it, apparently.

At what point - is there ANY point - at which mere bland surrender to lawlessness and a broken constitutional system appears inadequate to some of you? Scalia erred, using "democracy" when he meant "constitutional republic of laws", in his dissent. We're there, folks (leaving aside we've been there for a while).

The dumbed-down electorate knows nothing other than this bland surrender to the "judicial putsch". How much risk is there in somebody at least MENTIONING that the system is off the rails? The tools to fix things are there, always have been, but it's too icky to even talk about it?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 27, 2015 01:36 PM (QDnY+)

290 Je Suis Denton County Texas



I AM Denton County.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 01:36 PM (G+3hN)

291
The Dumb People have been bamboozled by the Leftist Media that they are living in a time when something great happened, equal to Emancipation.

In reality all that the government has done has allowed men to have husbands, which is an abomination and an affront to nature and God and any reasonable person.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:37 PM (rrKIh)

292 left out link


http://fxn.ws/1NnuCCd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 01:37 PM (GpgJl)

293 The dissents have already been argued. It's done. Two really old gentlemen got married in Dallas yesterday

Posted by: ThunderB at June 27, 2015 01:38 PM (zOTsN)

294 LGBTQGOSUB20

Isn't "pervert" easier to type?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:38 PM (39g3+)

295 One could almost rage stroke out just by the top five stories at Weasel Zippers right now.

Including the NYPD official news link going rainbow.
And Hillary hocking rainbow Hillary Memorabilia.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 01:38 PM (VPLuQ)

296 Yes i will no longer use bing or google. Yahoo it is!!!

Posted by: Prescient11 at June 27, 2015 01:38 PM (Au7Z/)

297 That's like 9.7 million in taxable property for just two Catholic Church owned properties off the top of my head.


Now, anybody know why Charleston is known as the Holy city?
Posted by: Village Idiot's
-----------------

Okay, I haven't followed the thread as I should, apparently. I thought the reference was to Charleston, SC not Baltimore.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 27, 2015 01:38 PM (9mTYi)

298 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 27, 2015 01:39 PM (GpgJl)

299 "Okay, I haven't followed the thread as I should, apparently. I thought the reference was to Charleston, SC not Baltimore.
'

no, I wrote it poorly.
It's a combination of the two.
In Baltimore, I can find that amount of tax exempt property easily.

And Charleston, which is referred o as the Holy City due to the huge number of churches has tons of tax exempt property as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 01:41 PM (VPLuQ)

300 You will embrace the rainbow or you will face shunning, loss of jobs, reeducation, and tax sanctions. Heil rainbow.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2015 01:41 PM (39g3+)

301 Before I die, I will invent the circle twerk.

Posted by: Miley Cyrus at June 27, 2015 01:41 PM (F1Z8f)

302 I don't think Gabe has said any of these things. I doubt he was a fan of how gay marriage became law of the land.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:42 PM (pmv/9)

303
If gabe has truly said that
Posted by: Prescient11




Gabriel Malor gabrielmalor Jun 26

Here's why the Orval Faubus-like call for state officials to defy SCOTUS will fail: http://thefederalist.com....

And the link goes a "Supreme Court Uber Alles" article he wrote.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:42 PM (kdS6q)

304 ***"I have another acquaintance who is posting a new pro gay marriage
photo, cartoon, etc. every hour..she is also straight. Same here and I
don't even pretend to understand it."***


Two word explanation:


Conspicuous Virtue.


How many dudes are doing this nonsense, and how many women?


Some Moronette was on here yesterday lamenting the threats that this represented to her religion right after demonstrating the she completely buys into the fundamental structure of the Left's idea of what constitutes family.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 01:43 PM (xSCb6)

305 About 10 years ago Mark Levin wrote a book on the Court.
The courts have been legislators for a long time.

When the courts become corrupt there is no place left for justice.

We are getting the government we deserve good and hard.

I'm not very religious to be sure but when a nation turns its back on its God, I expect God's blessings to diminish.

Reports Ive heard is only 3% fought in the revolutionary war and only 25% supported it. I think we can muster that much again. This is not to be construed as a call to arms NSA.

Posted by: just saying at June 27, 2015 01:43 PM (wkuqO)

306 Party at Grump928 (c)'s place!!

If we're going to be shooting, bring your own alcohol.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 01:44 PM (rwI+c)

307 Sooth, I did finally get around to working on the Camry blower this morning and the ploblem is the fan itself. I just moved the blower from the other Camry in there an it's blowing a storm.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 01:45 PM (rwI+c)

308
I don't think Gabe has said any of these things.
Posted by: Draki



You appear unfamiliar with GMs history of explicitly endorsing the arbitrary unconstitutional actions of the courts on the issue, as well as his support for Obama similar executive orders.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:45 PM (kdS6q)

309 If Joni Mitchell is "recovering " at home, it means she has no chance. If there were, she wd be in a rehab hospital receiving intensive rehab. Instead, she is receiving basic care at home which tells me she is going to die.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 27, 2015 01:47 PM (iQIUe)

310 ***"I don't think Gabe has said any of these things.


Posted by: Draki"***


I didn't think you were new here. Welcome aboard!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 27, 2015 01:48 PM (xSCb6)

311 122 Just got back from Wegmans.

Real weird vibe out there.

Not a lot of happy people, judging by facial expressions, and body language.

Eh...probably nothing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2015 12:45 PM (VPLuQ)


Yeah, I just got home from Publix here. It's usually extremely busy on Saturday but the parking lot was less than half full and it was near silent inside the store. Very, very weird.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at June 27, 2015 01:49 PM (KkVB6)

312
I'm no Gabe fan but dont hate him for telling you want is going to happen if licenses arent issued. The feds will enforce it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 27, 2015 01:51 PM (iQIUe)

313 You appear unfamiliar with GMs history of explicitly
endorsing the arbitrary unconstitutional actions of the courts on the
issue, as well as his support for Obama similar executive orders.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:45 PM (kdS6q)

Naw, y'all are right. I just trolled through his twitter feed. He's happy about it. He also made a dumb argument that the Supreme Court usurped executive authority when rewriting obamacare, which is STUPID. The supreme court usurped the legislative branches authority.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:52 PM (pmv/9)

314
312
I'm no Gabe fan but dont hate him for telling you want is going to happen if licenses arent issued. The feds will enforce it.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 27, 2015 01:51 PM (iQIUe)

With Gabe's blessing.

Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:52 PM (MQEz6)

315
I don't think Gabe has said any of these things.
Posted by: Draki

I didn't think you were new here. Welcome aboard!
Posted by: Burn the Witch




*rings the bell*

First timer has to chug!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:52 PM (kdS6q)

316 I'm no Gabe fan but dont hate him for telling you want is going to happen if licenses arent issued. The feds will enforce it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 27, 2015 01:51 PM (iQIUe)
It's not just him telling what gonna happen, but he's cool with this change too.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:54 PM (pmv/9)

317 First timer has to chug!


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 27, 2015 01:52 PM (kdS6q)

Too early in the day, can we wait a bit?

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:55 PM (pmv/9)

318 "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the
same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,
it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and
to provide new Guards for their future security."

Posted by: goozer at June 27, 2015 01:56 PM (mcwCF)

319 I am not opposed to gay marriage.

I am opposed to courts making them legal and crushing the Tenth Amendment in the process.

States are little more than satrapies now and ambitious myopic folks like Gabe don't care, as long as they get what they want.


Posted by: eman at June 27, 2015 01:57 PM (MQEz6)

320 Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 01:01 PM (rrKIh)
So Levin is leaving WRKO as well? Could you tell me what station Rush is going to in MA?

Posted by: plum at June 27, 2015 01:57 PM (vxuDM)

321 I'd take Trump over Rubio any day.

A hairpiece is nonsensical in that Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich pick.

Posted by: DaveA at June 27, 2015 01:57 PM (DL2i+)

322 Yeah, Gabe supports the death of rule of law, and he's supposedly some hot shot lawyer.

Posted by: Draki at June 27, 2015 01:58 PM (pmv/9)

323 Anyone selling a "solution" to this that requires an amendment is simply blowing smoke up your ass.

That dinghy deep-sixed over twenty years ago.

The only solution will be the slow, inexorable crush of Math! It will take awhile. The "white mans' bounty" is still very well stocked here. The parasites will likely feed for quite some time, as the party apparatus dances madly backwards creating more illusion.

"They were in their first good pair of boots. They'd be ready to listen, when the boots wore out"

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 27, 2015 02:06 PM (CFcIt)

324
Rush will now be on 1430 in Boston. But he's still on 580 in Worcester and 560 in Springfield and 95.1 on the Cape

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 02:07 PM (rrKIh)

325 @60: Trinity Church in Manhattan is an Episcopal church that supports gay marriage. Their property tax exemption is not going to be at risk.

Posted by: Joshua at June 27, 2015 02:08 PM (oCZ4e)

326 324
Rush will now be on 1430 in Boston. But he's still on 580 in Worcester and 560 in Springfield and 95.1 on the Cape
Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 27, 2015 02:07 PM (rrKIh)


Funny...... just a few weeks ago, I was assured by the infant class that rUshiStoaST!!!!!!!!!eLebinTy!!!!! Pt. 4,396.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 27, 2015 02:09 PM (CFcIt)

327 "I keep being told there isn't a critical mass of people who support big
government. Fair enough. So now it's time to create one."

Did you mean "small government"? I can tell that there's a critical mass of people who support big government, since Obama got elected twice.

Posted by: Joshua at June 27, 2015 02:09 PM (oCZ4e)

328 "I keep being told there isn't a critical mass of people who support big government. Fair enough. So now it's time to create one."

Have a nice nap, Rip?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 27, 2015 02:12 PM (CFcIt)

329 If we're going to be shooting, bring your own alcohol.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 27, 2015 01:44 PM (rwI+c)


Isn't that SOP?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 27, 2015 02:16 PM (CFcIt)

330 We are getting the government we deserve good and hard.

Yes.

*Ow, my balls!*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 27, 2015 02:18 PM (CFcIt)

331 Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at June 27, 2015 12:54 PM (Mb6qh)

The Westboro Baptist church consist of a couple dozen family members. I really doubt Big Govt cares about them, as they don't do anything but protest military funerals and the left hates the military anyway so it saves them the work.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 27, 2015 02:20 PM (BVDFs)

332 Drew - you're awesome. Thank you for this great piece.

Posted by: YourMomKeepsTexting at June 27, 2015 02:20 PM (vexAN)

333 Universal healthcare and same-sex marriage are two pretty different things, despite both involving "big government." Actually the generic big govt. argument against judges going for SSM is pretty weak considering you don't explain why the same couldn't be said for interracial marriage, or Brown v. Board of Education. Judges invalidating democratic laws they deem oppressive/unconstitutional isn't new.

you're retarded, basically.

Posted by: JL at June 27, 2015 02:21 PM (Pa4eZ)

334 I am not concerned as of yet about churches being forced to perform same sex marriages, because I don't think women can sue churches who won't allow female priests, and whatever covers that ought to cover the same sex thing for now.

But the time is coming.

And I say that being fine with gay marriage, but very fearful as to what will come along with it in terms of rights being taken away.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 27, 2015 02:23 PM (BVDFs)

335 This article is right on. And I say that as one who has benefited from the ministerial tax exemption in the past.

The BEST way left for resistance now is lawfare.

Your Democrat neighbors are letting the kids play outside unsupervised? Call the police.

Your Democrat neighbors didn't pick up after the dog pooped? Call the police.

At city council meetings, demand every last thing be made ADA compliant, or gay friendly. EVERYTHING. Same with businesses.

Video the police at every available opportunity. Post any small infraction on the web.

Report your liberal coworkers who say questionable things. Turn them over to the Twitter mob.

Also, conservatives need to STOP loving on business/industry. It is evil and it hates you. I have worked for 2 Fortune 500s. They are not friendly to you or to liberty. The only business worth sticking up for is the small entrepreneur. All the rest are evil, and they hate you, and they hate liberty. It is a necessary evil that must be viewed with skepticism at all times. As Chesterton said, "big business and socialism are very much alike, especially socialism."

Etc.

The only way out is pain. Inflict the consequences on the people who created it.

Posted by: some guy at June 27, 2015 02:23 PM (AV5ue)

336 also seeing Allahpundit write so much on how terrible it is that Obama lied about his opposition to SSM is kind of pathetic considering he's a social liberal across the board. Who cares? Lincoln lied about not caring about freeing the slaves too, it's called practicality. Not equating the two, but the principle's the same.

Posted by: JL at June 27, 2015 02:23 PM (Pa4eZ)

337 I have another acquaintance who is posting a new pro gay marriage photo, cartoon, etc.

every hour..she is also straight.







Gots to be in the kewl klub.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 01:34 PM (G+3hN)


Sounds more mentally deranged

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2015 02:23 PM (DiZBp)

338 Gots to be in the kewl klub.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2015 01:34 PM (G+3hN)


It....uhh..... yeah, that's pretty much it.

Sounds more mentally deranged
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2015 02:23 PM (DiZBp)


Sadly, yes. I have the same going on with a former/ future GF in Florida (if I feel like moving to Florida. Not really).

Intelligent, Big 2A supporter, firm fiscal conservative and thinks O-blame-O is a POS. But........

Yayyyyyy, teh ghey!!!!!!

*facepalm*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 27, 2015 03:01 PM (CFcIt)

339 I like Rubios honesty here

Any other candidate that sells a constitutional amendment as a solution is playing you for a rube.

The fight now is protecting religious liberty, something that is far more important than fags getting a government piece of paper that lets them pretend to play house

Posted by: Jim at June 27, 2015 03:02 PM (zvtVK)

340 Any Amendments will just be more words that they will ignore,.

Posted by: Rob in Katy at June 27, 2015 03:02 PM (eYTQP)

341 338.

I've noticed that also with my wife's friends.

The LGBT community didn't win this, it was upper middle class white females that watched too much Will and Grace.

If there's one silver lining, the move forward with the Left on these issues is not going to have the traction this issue did

They are going to miss gay marriage being a political issue to extract money from wealthy gays

Posted by: Jim at June 27, 2015 03:07 PM (zvtVK)

342 Thing is with a SC ruling there is nothing to be done.

I disagree that there is no critical mass of people who like big government. Of course there is, that is why we have it.

Government is FULL of stuff that White People Like. SWPL.

Like parks and roads and Social Security and aircraft carriers and pretending to care about poor people.

White people LOVE that stuff. So if it takes GIGANTIC HORROR GOVERNMENT to pay for mom to live in Florida so we don't have to take care of her on our own, well, that's what it takes.

Posted by: blaster at June 27, 2015 03:22 PM (2Ocf1)

343 Fuck Rubio, I never liked him after he stabbed himself in the back when he decided illegals were ok and going to get a free pass to citizenship.

Posted by: Gmac- 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at June 27, 2015 03:29 PM (4CRfK)

344 "Girls and their irrational love of guys that like to gossip, go shopping and tell them they're pretty to their face -- while calling them a fat breeder bitch behind their back."

sssshshhs

dont say it loud here. A lot of people believe in unicorns and moderate gheys...

Posted by: fromabroad at June 27, 2015 03:33 PM (rnV3B)

345 When progressives and liberals start getting shafted by the government, then the screams for small government will be heard.
There it is.

Posted by: obsidian at June 27, 2015 04:19 PM (ARK2U)

346 I think this is wonderful! Now can I marry my son?

Posted by: Veritas at June 27, 2015 04:21 PM (tPtDI)

347 I am staying off of Facebook. I have close
relatives, heteros, who overcoated their own wedding photo with rainbow
colors. I have another acquaintance who is posting a new pro gay
marriage photo, cartoon, etc. every hour..she is also straight.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 27, 2015 01:29 PM (OB/ib)
I blocked or "unfriended" a shit ton of people this morning because of their stupid comments and rainbow profiles. Enough. Some of these people (mostly female, by the way) I've known for many years. But, they're so wrapped up in the emotional moment they can't control themselves. I told one "female" that it may be time to revisit the 19th Amendment. Caused female heads to explode!! HA!! Yeah, I'm the sensitive type.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 27, 2015 04:25 PM (TPimP)

348 "14 Abide by the Law?

Which one?

The one written in black and white using words with meaning or the one conjured up by a gang?


11!

Posted by: Shoey at June 27, 2015 04:38 PM (vA94g)

349 I am a practicing Catholic and I could not agree more. Make those 2 faced bishops squirm!

Posted by: Liz O at June 27, 2015 04:39 PM (LTre7)

350 339 I like Rubios honesty here

Any other candidate that sells a constitutional amendment as a solution is playing you for a rube.

The fight now is protecting religious liberty, something that is far more important than fags getting a government piece of paper that lets them pretend to play house
Posted by: Jim at June 27, 2015 03:02 PM (zvtVK)


that fight is lost, this ruling renders void the religious exemption of the 1st Amendment.

same sex marriage is a government protected RIGHT, any institution that performs weddings MUST also perform gay weddings, that is what the ruling means.

think I'm wrong?

wait for the lawsuits and the rulings they will produce.

the State now decides moral issues, not God, not the Church, and especially not citizens.

Posted by: Shoey at June 27, 2015 04:51 PM (vA94g)

351 don't worry, the left's government henchman wont dare bother the mosques, only the Christian churches.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at June 27, 2015 04:52 PM (COpZ4)

352 On March 1, 2013, President Obama ordered into effect the across-the-board spending cuts (commonly referred to as sequestration) required by the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act, as amended. Under the order, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) must cut its current budget by more than $30 million, 5 percent of the current 2013 appropriation, by September 30, 2013. In order to achieve these savings and protect core programs, the BLS is taking the steps listed below:

1) Eliminate the Measuring Green Jobs products.

2) Eliminate the Mass Layoff Statistics program.

3) Eliminate the International Labor Comparisons program.

4) Freeze hiring and curtail spending.


Dropping 1) and 2) are interesting. If they had brought any peasure to this administration , they would not have been dropped.

Posted by: President Asshole Obama at June 27, 2015 04:55 PM (e8kgV)

353 "Catholic church's will be hardest hit. Pope Dope won't know what hit him"

oh, Pope Shitty is more than halfway to laying out the welcome mat for ghey weddings already. He'll probably cut some deal with President Boy that'll amount to Catholic priests permitted to officiate in individual cases as a "pastoral" response in return for the Church keeping its goodies. And in a year, it will just be SOP.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at June 27, 2015 06:01 PM (VBbCO)

354 Genius.

Under your new plan will the Climate Change cult be considered religion and taxed at the usual level?

Posted by: bour3 at June 27, 2015 06:18 PM (5x3+2)

355 Is this what you all learned from your hillbilly cracka d.i.? Or are you all really that repressed and closeted yourselves? Rubio and the rest of the normal human beings are ready to move on to other things. No one pays any attention to the fringe bigot jarheads anyway. Without any irony at all, go suck a big black cock.

Posted by: The lowered confuckerate flag at June 27, 2015 07:14 PM (H1Krz)

356 Ace, I think you are being unfair in your snark towards Cruz. I am happy that he is proposing a solution that could really work if adopted. And keep in mind that Cruz clerked for Rheinquist. It had to have been a difficult decision for him to publicly suggest reining the S Ct in with this type of device.



Posted by: VA MK Z at June 27, 2015 07:14 PM (gRS/u)

357 Congress can by mere legislation remove the Supreme Court's jurisdiction over marriage cases.

Posted by: Federale (@Federale86) at June 27, 2015 07:41 PM (zZ+xG)

358 "Lena Dunham's boyfriend of three years"

Three years??? My God, hasn't he suffered enough?

Posted by: Birthers are right at June 27, 2015 09:27 PM (5itIK)

359 Amazing how there can be people who are so fucking stupid that they can chant over and over that we should "let it burn" and then whine like a stick pig that it's burning.

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at June 27, 2015 10:22 PM (EgbCN)

360 Although of COURSE the efforts to eliminate dissenting churches will start with the Catholics (and, of course, the Mormons), it will totally avoid Black churches and Islamic mosques. Not because they don't condemn this ruling even more strongly, but because the administration is chicken$hit.

Posted by: LindaF at June 28, 2015 01:27 AM (Id4/4)

361 I don't comment on this site, I'm actually more of a lurker, but I can't really help myself anymore. I must comment.

A lot of the posts made on this blog resonate with me, especially lately. I'm Conservative on a lot of issues, except when it comes to SSM. I don't have a problem with same sex couples getting married. I'm more of a spiritual person than I am a religious person. As long as people don't bother me or others with getting what they want by way of force, I really don't care what they do. However, it has been well shown that Christian businesses that do not provide services for a gay couple's wedding, due to it being against their religious beliefs, can get a mob sent after them to put them out of business or face paying a ridiculous lawsuit. To me, that is forceful. I don't approve of harassment to punish others for not having the same view as another group of people. It's just not right. But we seem to be stuck with politicians that only care about themselves and preach hate, harassment, lawlessness, and more, to the people of this country. Our society has become filled with monsters, that believe their way is the only way people can live by. Freedom be damned.

After The Supreme Court decided it can make law, I set out to look for any of our founding documents that state they are allowed to do so. I knew it was something they could not do, but I had to double check, because my mind was blown. Surprise, that's not their job! Yet, people are thrilled about it and are willing to ignore the abuse of power, because special groups got their way. They don't stop and think that letting such abuse of power slip by, could lead to a future of a right or freedom they enjoy, being taken away by that same abuse of power. When I try to explain this to anyone, even those with Conservative leanings, I am treated like a crazy person with a fondness for conspiracies. It makes rather sick.

While society has caused me anger over their willful ignorance, I find myself being pissed off that no one is taking a proper stand and that these people aren't getting a taste of their own medicine fast enough. I'm also upset that their ignorance will cause me to suffer with them.

Posted by: Pretty Poison at June 28, 2015 12:11 PM (ygSxj)

362 Why won't churches perform homosexual weddings? It wasn't little girls that those priests were diddling.

Posted by: Ceteris Paribus at June 28, 2015 12:17 PM (lQqJB)

363 In the meantime the short answer is....stop protecting people from the big government they support. Too many people who have spent years and decades advocating for bigger and bigger government have to be made to enjoy it as much as we have been.

More winning through losing? That worked out great in 2006 and 2008. I can hardly wait.

Posted by: Right Headed at June 28, 2015 02:04 PM (yCsq6)

364 If we think the notion of 3/5 of the state legislatures agreeing to be bound by a paragraph is ridiculous and impossible, then it's over.

I mean NOTHING you do in national politics is as simple as enacting a Constitutional amendment. It took six months to give the vote to 18 year olds.

I'm not saying you have to agree with every paragraph proposed, but if you can't accept that a paragraph will meet with the active support of a majority of the American people, then what are we? What are you playing at when you endorse any person for any office?

Posted by: Chris Balsz at June 28, 2015 05:27 PM (8rRE+)

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