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Morning Thread (6-10-2015)

May your day be extra-humpy.

Posted by: Andy at 06:46 AM




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1 Shiny new thread! Yay!

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 06:46 AM (J+mig)

2
Actual CNN headline this morning: "Why Jeb Bush is struggling"

This should be the shortest article ever written, but it's not.

"Because he's not conservative."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 06:48 AM (fwARV)

3 Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, June 10, 2015. On this day in 1963 the Equal Pay Act of 1963 aimed at abolishing wage disparity based on sex was signed into law by John F. Kennedy as part of his New Frontier Program. And we passed another one a few years ago and the Democrats are pushing to pass yet another one now as part of their BS war on women strategy. When is enough enough? This supposed wage gap has been debunked many times.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:48 AM (GpgJl)

4 Obama wants to send more troops to Iraq to fight ISIS after giving the country to them. I know it says Pentagon here but you know the Pentagon doesn't make this kind of decision.


http://fxn.ws/1S3lbew

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:48 AM (GpgJl)

5 A TX appeals court has upheld a TX law that requires TX abortion clinics to meet the same level of standards as a hospital. Opponents say they will appeal to SCOTUS where it will depend on the "swing justice".


http://fxn.ws/1S3qLO0

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:48 AM (GpgJl)

6 Climate scientists are slamming the lying NOAA paper that shows the earth still warming. You can not trust anything this lying administration puts out.


http://fxn.ws/1Mnd4pj

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:49 AM (GpgJl)

7 Good news of the day; doggy saves blind owner from being ran over by a school bus.


http://fxn.ws/1S3rtLj

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:49 AM (GpgJl)

8 Good Morning!
I've been up since 4 am & now going to take nap.

I tried posting to ONT & got message that thread is closed?

Posted by: Carol at June 10, 2015 06:49 AM (sj3Ax)

9 A South GA woman has been charged with murder after inducing an abortion by taking some pills she ordered off the Internet.


http://fxn.ws/1F7x9e2

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:49 AM (GpgJl)

10 TSA workers are lambasting the TSA over security concerns and bad management. I blame Scankles who got this incompetent organization off the ground so she could push the union on it. It should be abolished and restored to what it was before.


http://fxn.ws/1FPWeuv

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:49 AM (GpgJl)

11 That TX cop who really did nothing wrong has been fired. Bad publicity from the MFM counts more than eyewitness testimony. Story says he resigned but we all know what that means.


http://fxn.ws/1FIkVKp

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:50 AM (GpgJl)

12 The Secret Service gets yet another black eye.


http://fxn.ws/1S3sG5b

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:50 AM (GpgJl)

13 Scankles has signed on to the SEIU $15/hour minimum wage for fast food workers, which in actuality is a bid to unionize them into their union.


http://fxn.ws/1B5n7Pd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:50 AM (GpgJl)

14 Morning! Thanks for the news, Vic!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 10, 2015 06:50 AM (UpGcq)

15 Looks like McConehead is getting ready to sell us out again on Obamacare.


http://fxn.ws/1KU8Yoq

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:50 AM (GpgJl)

16 Blacks have lost their luster on the Choom:


African American voters who were inspired partly by the emotional draw of his biography, high hopes have turned to frustration: Even a black president was unable to heal places still gripped by violence, drugs and joblessness.


I guess they found out he really was not going to put gas in their car and pay their rent. My advice to people who want to end violence, drugs, and joblessness; clean up your neighborhood and get a job. Politicians can not do this for you and if they tried the assholes in your neighborhoods would raise hell about it.


http://wapo.st/1IusEPo

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:51 AM (GpgJl)

17 The GOP plans on rushing Obamatrade through despite nobody having read the bill.


http://politi.co/1IEudgr

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:51 AM (GpgJl)

18 And opponents are sending rubber stamps to House Republicans with Obama's picture on them.


http://bit.ly/1MHrpxD

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:51 AM (GpgJl)

19 Idiot Lynch thinks she is the AG for the whole world.


http://nyti.ms/1MnnXaQ

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:51 AM (GpgJl)

20 The European Parliament has delayed it's vote on the TTIP measure, which is the European version of TPP. The head of the EP has come out strongly against. One Parliament member says he is getting 10,000 emails a day, telling him not to vote for this.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2015 06:51 AM (BOnxM)

21 The DOS is releasing hundreds of Cuban and South American criminals to the streets because their home countries will not take them back. I say take them back and dump them on the shores of their country and piss on them.


http://bit.ly/1Gr3MIK

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:52 AM (GpgJl)

22 SJWs who want to recall the mayor of Ferguson got shot down when half of their petition signatures turned up false. The drive was being run by out of town agitators.


http://bit.ly/1B5piSR

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:52 AM (GpgJl)

23
DAY 946

517 to go (590 to Inauguration Day 2017)


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, mewling mattress myth manufacturers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 06:52 AM (St6BJ)

24 The Hump Boat,Shiny and new.Come aboard,We're expecting you.

Posted by: Captain Rubio at June 10, 2015 06:52 AM (LF5/M)

25 Russia is violating the IMF nuclear missile treaty and Obama doesn't give a shit.


http://bit.ly/1QnBqG5

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:52 AM (GpgJl)

26 A French AGW scammer says Obama has committed to a AGW scam treaty even without congress.


http://bit.ly/1IEvmVk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:52 AM (GpgJl)

27
The no-shit last Ninja on the planet says he'll let the art die with him because 'we can't try out murder or poison. Even if you learn, you can't try it out.'

http://tinyurl.com/kyxd972

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 06:52 AM (fwARV)

28 The NYC police commissioner says he has a hard time hiring black cops because so many blacks have been in jail and thus can not be hired as a cop.


http://bit.ly/1FQJsMr

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:53 AM (GpgJl)

29

Old and Busted - McKinney, Texas

New Hotness - Cynthia McKinney wrecks us

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 06:53 AM (St6BJ)

30 Obama says the secret trade bill will fight climate change.


http://bit.ly/1FInXOw

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:53 AM (GpgJl)

31 Ramirez


http://bit.ly/1MHu2Qj

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:53 AM (GpgJl)

32 The NYT blames the Baltimore riots on predatory banks that rob black neighborhoods of money. These people truly are clueless.


http://bit.ly/1QKLaF1

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:53 AM (GpgJl)

33 The Daily Deals


http://amzn.to/1cL8THU


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:54 AM (GpgJl)

34 Mornin' glories.
I'm guessing L, Elle isn't around...
If you are - I'm here for a hot minute.

Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 06:54 AM (4XFNL)

35
And the GOP is afraid if Obamacare loses in SCOTUS this month.

They're afraid. Ho. Lee. Fook.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 06:54 AM (St6BJ)

36
So, what the fuck is this feud on the ONT?

Just the Cliff's Notes, please.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 06:54 AM (St6BJ)

37 8
Good Morning!

I've been up since 4 am now going to take nap.



I tried posting to ONT got message that thread is closed?



Posted by: Carol at June 10, 2015 06:49 AM (sj3Ax)


When I first got up early this morning I could not get on the internet at all. And even after I did I could not get on AOS. I think the whole thing is still a little squirrely.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:56 AM (GpgJl)

38 Vic,
I'm sorry to interrupt your news but l haven't been here often.
I hope everything is well with you & your wife.

No, we aren't moving to Texas. Older brother is very concerned with his health & I couldn't take care of him & I have best male friend (cousin's cousin) living here with me & he won't move to Texas either.

I'll refresh page later.

Posted by: Carol at June 10, 2015 06:56 AM (sj3Ax)

39 Well the Mega Millions rolled over. $26 million annuity on Friday.

Tonight's Powerball is a $50 million annuity.

Louisiana Lotto is worth $950,000 tonight.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 06:56 AM (Rh6FA)

40 Russian hackers on the ONT?

Here's today's fresh hell.

Methinks they're after our Valu-Rite.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 06:56 AM (0HooB)

41 541
The Vietnamese math puzzle has 21 solutions:


Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 10, 2015 12:19 AM (grOY9)

Given
that one of the parts of the equation is (a number * another number /
third number), shouldn't there always be an even number of solutions
given that those first two are always interchangeable values? I
brute-forced it with a horribly unoptimized and quick C# program, and
came up with 20 possible solutions that fit the equation A + ((13 * B) /
C) + D + (12 * E) - F - 11 + ((G * H) / I) - 10 = 66.

Come to
think of it, teaching third graders to think in terms of programming
algorithm design probably wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Posted by: Dan Kojak at June 10, 2015 06:57 AM (zfjOq)

42 38 No, we aren't moving to Texas. Older brother is very
concerned with his health I couldn't take care of him I
have best male friend (cousin's cousin) living here with me he
won't move to Texas either.



I'll refresh page later.

Posted by: Carol at June 10, 2015 06:56 AM (sj3Ax)

That's too bad. I think you would have like it there a lot better than MA.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:59 AM (GpgJl)

43 re: ONT stuff.

It is becoming something like Fight Club. Because it possibly is spilling over into affecting lives in real life, I prefer not to talk about it.

Th COB's are handling it.

What happened last night and this morning proves that someone is a vile despicable thing that is not even human. I might have been too kind by calling it pond scum.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 06:59 AM (Rh6FA)

44 Obama considering more student loan forgiveness.

what a fucking dope I am for getting an engineering degree and then living well BELOW my means so I could make double payments to get my student loans paid off.

Now I get to subsidize dipshits who are too good to take jobs that involve manual labor and want to live in high rent "cool" areas.

Posted by: the real ch3 at June 10, 2015 06:59 AM (IG5KL)

45 Ugh. I stomped on Vic with my Ninja News.

Sorry, Vic.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 06:59 AM (fwARV)

46 A lot of the history of literature has been the lie of non-diverse world.

Posted by: Irene Gallo Approved Quotes at June 10, 2015 07:01 AM (TcePY)

47 "So, what the fuck is this feud on the ONT?"


???

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:02 AM (DDeKY)

48 *yaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwn*

Morning! Dog woke us up barking at the thunder for an hour so we only got a few hours sleep. Now the dog is passed out from exhaustion and is leaving all the day's heavy lifting to us...

Posted by: Ruth at June 10, 2015 07:02 AM (oo88B)

49 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 06:59 AM (Rh6FA)

It is tiring.....and annoying.

Posted by: BignJames at June 10, 2015 07:02 AM (HtUkt)

50 Just wanted to get that Galling Gallo quote into the record so we all understand the full revisionism SJW's want for all of culture, history, literature and society. As if you didn't already understand...

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2015 07:03 AM (TcePY)

51 So I will pose a question I posted on the ONT -

Lada, Yugo, Fiat, or Moskva?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:03 AM (Rh6FA)

52
I play MegaMillions but only when it reaches about $50 million. I need to have enough money to take care of a very few people with substantial gifts and have enough for me to achieve "escape velocity," which is roughly $6.5 million net.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:04 AM (St6BJ)

53 51 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:03 AM (Rh6FA)

Fiat. Sucks much lose.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:05 AM (St6BJ)

54 Posted by: the real ch3 at June 10, 2015 06:59 AM (IG5KL)


builds character....suck it up...\s

Posted by: BignJames at June 10, 2015 07:05 AM (HtUkt)

55 >>>>The no-shit last Ninja on the planet says he'll let the art die with him because 'we can't try out murder or poison. Even if you learn, you can't try it out.'
.
.
.No....there is another.

Mall Ninja!

Posted by: Gecko45 at June 10, 2015 07:06 AM (iONHu)

56
Sucks much lose? Sucks much less!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:06 AM (St6BJ)

57 Ira has been spamming/trolling the ONT (in particular, he hits this thread too sometimes) for what seems like weeks now. He shifts his hash frequently, which is chewing up Maet's time to reload his new hashes into the TB3K (automated deletion tool). It got real bad again last night, which is why Maet closed the thread to comments.

Maet has warned Ira that he will release all the metadata on Ira if he doesn't stop with the attacks; stay tuned and buy popcorn.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 10, 2015 07:06 AM (hVp2k)

58 Ah. Looks like the newest gimp payed a visit to the the thread late last night.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:07 AM (DDeKY)

59 Of course the rest of the vehicle question is - which one does Milky Virus sound like without auto-tune.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:07 AM (Rh6FA)

60
It's one thing to deal with a schmuck like Moo Moo, but threatening to expose someone's private info is WAY over the line.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:07 AM (St6BJ)

61 Is the comments section open?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 10, 2015 07:08 AM (V70Uh)

62 60
It's one thing to deal with a schmuck like Moo Moo, but threatening to expose someone's private info is WAY over the line.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:07 AM (St6BJ)


OOPS! Serves me right for not reading the comments.

Do your duty, Maet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:08 AM (St6BJ)

63 It should be abolished and restored to what it was before.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:49 AM

It should be abolished. Period.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 10, 2015 07:10 AM (iUCQL)

64 Sefton lets say I wish upon them the 'joy' of two hours of Vogon poetry.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:10 AM (Rh6FA)

65 64 Sefton lets say I wish upon them the 'joy' of two hours of Vogon poetry.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:10 AM (Rh6FA)


Whither Snotty Bart Farst?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:11 AM (St6BJ)

66
Having looked into the ONT, all I can say is

I See Cranky People

and I blame math.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at June 10, 2015 07:11 AM (VLTL9)

67 McKinney Texas is a return to the days of 'block busting' where real estate developers secretly move a black family into a neighborhood and all the whites flee.

This new modern technique involves the old fascist tactics of brown shirts breaking windows and vandalizing shops forcing the shop owners to flee the country. It's being done for political reasons just as it was back in the '30's.

Hacking web sites is an extension of this same tactic. Drive the targeted demographic off the web, out of the neighborhood, out of the country, out of political power.

The attack on reason.com, the stalker(s) here at ace all being funded by government grants for community organizing. Michelle Malkin has a piece on townhall about 'Teachers for America' that has been taken over by extreme leftists political activists a la ACORN.

It's all a return to leftist revolutionaries and too many innocent people don't know what to do about it.

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 07:11 AM (GkTW3)

68
Good news, every Juan!:

Trustees for the Sacramento City Unified School District have approved creating an ethnic studies course for high schools and implementing it as a graduation requirement by 2020. The resolution was approved unanimously

A committee of teachers, college professors, ethnic community group leaders, students and curricula specialists will organize to create and evaluate options for ethnic studies. The plan also calls for prospective teachers to receive training, professional development and certification to teach the course.



Sorry Trig. Gotta make some room.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2015 07:11 AM (kdS6q)

69 Did Cranky People and Front Hole open for Pussy Riot?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:13 AM (Rh6FA)

70 and I blame math
---------------------------
You misspelled haldol.

Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:14 AM (4XFNL)

71 Maggies Farm has an interesting BBC link up in their morning list of videos and quotes from people living in Mosul under ISIS. Hell on earth. Brought to you by President Progressive and his "foreign policy team".

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2015 07:15 AM (TcePY)

72 LieMeister Robert Gibbs, aka DCBob, former WH spokesman/liar has been hired by MacDonalds as some sort of Exec VP Of Lies And Disinformation (I may have misremembered his exact title). The new CEO apparently is interested in turning McDs into some kind of progressive (his word) corporation.

My limited patronage of McDs has now turned into no patronage.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 10, 2015 07:15 AM (hVp2k)

73
For those who were not aware, the police are being targeted intentionally by the Marxists since they are protectors of the very society they seek to conquer. So sayeth Vlad Lenin just over 100 years ago or so.

And here we are. Ferguson, NYC, Baltimore, McKinney, etc. etc.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:16 AM (St6BJ)

74 Aloha kakahiaka e Palani.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 10, 2015 07:17 AM (kmtse)

75 Some art for the morning thread? From Ufunk.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/breastfeedingart

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:17 AM (Rh6FA)

76 >>>The DOS is releasing hundreds of Cuban and South American criminals to the streets because their home countries will not take them back.<<<


That's perfect. I can use their help in my illegal drug running operations. I need to expand my empire to keep up this high roller kingpin lifestyle.

Posted by: Narco Rubio at June 10, 2015 07:17 AM (LF5/M)

77 " the police are being targeted"


The police. Morality. Common sense. Economics.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:18 AM (DDeKY)

78
Maggies Farm has an interesting BBC link up in their morning list of videos and quotes from people living in Mosul under ISIS. Hell on earth. Brought to you by President Progressive and his "foreign policy team".
Posted by: MTF




BTW - today is the one year anniversary of ISIS taking over Mosul.

Team Jihad is supposedly losing the war, yet somehow they're still there and putting in new carpets.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2015 07:18 AM (kdS6q)

79 77 " the police are being targeted"

The police. Morality. Common sense. Economics.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:18 AM (DDeKY)


Moral relativism, topsy turvy time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:19 AM (St6BJ)

80 The police. Morality. Common sense. Economics.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:18 AM (DDeKY)

They're probably trying to build up a case to build a national police force, so that they can impose their order how they want.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 07:20 AM (J+mig)

81 Team Jihad is supposedly losing the war, yet somehow they're still there and putting flying in new carpets.



Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2015 07:20 AM (1PHG5)

82 Looks like it will be a nice day today here. We had a Hell of a thunderstorm come through yesterday evening about sundown.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:20 AM (GpgJl)

83 Troll is either off his rocker or paid disruptor.

Posted by: @votermom at June 10, 2015 07:20 AM (cbfNE)

84 Yes, a huzzah to the cobs! I'm sure this crap is just maddening.

Posted by: Gem at June 10, 2015 07:21 AM (AuJ+i)

85 They're probably trying to build up a case to build a national police force, so that they can impose their order how they want.



Time for secession talks.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2015 07:21 AM (1PHG5)

86 Aloha oe

Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:21 AM (4XFNL)

87 83
Troll is either off his rocker or paid disruptor.

Posted by: @votermom at June 10, 2015 07:20 AM (cbfNE)


Who are we talking about on the ONT?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:22 AM (GpgJl)

88 36
So, what the fuck is this feud on the ONT?

Just the Cliff's Notes, please.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 06:54 AM (St6BJ



Quick and dirty:


Wierdo acting weird. Cooth wonders if weirdo is asshole identity thief. Weirdo LOSES MIND. Maet gives timeout. Weirdo proceeds to go Full MUMR. He spams thread so much it lags the website, so basically he's engaging in a Denial of Service attack.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2015 07:22 AM (zt+N6)

89 Aloha..... SMFH

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:22 AM (Rh6FA)

90 "Time for secession talks."


Fer it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:22 AM (DDeKY)

91 83: or both.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at June 10, 2015 07:22 AM (wi0FU)

92 Yes, you are correct, Dave. Voting is an abject and utter waste of time. In the end, all politicians are either corrupt or corrupted and the will of the people is subverted. And, no, I will not open the pod bay doors.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 10, 2015 07:22 AM (VcOqI)

93 Aloha Anna : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 10, 2015 07:23 AM (kmtse)

94 Time for expatriation talks.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 10, 2015 07:23 AM (VcOqI)

95 "Who are we talking about on the ONT?"


Ira.


Strange duck. Posted rather normally for a while and, then, whammo.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:23 AM (DDeKY)

96 81 Team Jihad is supposedly losing the war, yet somehow they're still there and putting flying in new carpets.



Fixed for accuracy.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2015 07:20 AM (1PHG5)


Munching on carpets (see: Hilary)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:23 AM (St6BJ)

97 Yeah, didn't take long for his wheels to fall off his bike.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 10, 2015 07:24 AM (kmtse)

98 93 Aloha Anna : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 10, 2015 07:23 AM (kmtse)


Cultural appropriation in progress!!!!!

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2015 07:25 AM (zt+N6)

99 Washington post
Chuck Schumer promises democrats will paralyze the congress by filibuster this summer holding hostage the defense spending and veterans.

Now, after seven years, the democrats are going to demand a budget.

http://tinyurl.com/nl3rnp4

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 07:25 AM (GkTW3)

100 Just remember, the 'normal' might have been an act to lure in people.

Ted Bundy seemed normal...

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:25 AM (Rh6FA)

101 Moral relativism, topsy turvy time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:19 AM (St6BJ)

Relativism has been our greatest enemy, and it's really the underpinning of Leftist thought. In its simplest, most essential form, it's the statement "there is no truth", which is self-refuting. They believe that every idea, every cause, every culture, and soforth is equal. Input and outcome are unmoored from each other, and life is just a game of dice. Morality has no inherent meaning or value to them, our morality isn't any more preferable to them than ISIS's bloodthirsty savagery.

So why do they always get it wrong, why do they hate us? Because we succeed. The rise of Western civilization to them is equivalent to someone winning at dice night every night for centuries. They think we're cheating. And if we're cheating, everyone else, no matter how backwards their ideology or cause, is a victim.

We can't defeat the Leftists until we convince people that there are absolutes again. Good and evil, truth and lies, and so on.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 07:25 AM (J+mig)

102 " the 'normal' might have been an act to lure in people."


Apparently.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:27 AM (DDeKY)

103 88 . . . so basically he's engaging in a Denial of Service attack.
Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2015 07:22 AM (zt+N6)


Sounds intentional. Reminds me that quite possibly not unrelated, I heard that the law firm that finally won the case against the EPA for torturing that homeowner in Idaho was targeted by the IRS.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:27 AM (St6BJ)

104
In "the new normal" news:

A wax figure of Orange is the New Black star Laverne Cox is set to be unveiled by Madame Tussauds, the first time a transgender person has been made into a wax figure by the museum, according to The San Jose Mercury News.

The figure will be unveiled on June 26 during the San Francisco Pride press conference and go on display at Madame Tussauds in Fisherman's Wharf.




Next stop? "It's a small world after all..."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2015 07:27 AM (kdS6q)

105 Wait, I thought Chuck Schummer said the filibuster was evil.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 10, 2015 07:28 AM (/HC6x)

106

Chuck Schumer promises democrats will paralyze the congress by filibuster this summer holding hostage the defense spending and veterans.

Now, after seven years, the democrats are going to demand a budget.

http://tinyurl.com/nl3rnp4

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 07:25 AM (GkTW3)


Remember way back in 2011 when Reid, Pelosi and President Obama all said the filibuster was inappropriate? Remember when they said that preventing Congress from doing things was 'holding a gun to the head of the American people,' 'holding America hostage' and 'acting like terrorists'?

Good times.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 07:28 AM (fwARV)

107 Wax figure SF In June.

And shouldn't they change that to Fisherperson's Wharf?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:29 AM (Rh6FA)

108 As a society we are told to hate and reject the Robertsons and Duggars, but not only embrace but celebrate the whole Kardassian and Jenner clan.

That's it in a nutshell.

This is how Rome fell.

Posted by: blaster at June 10, 2015 07:29 AM (2Ocf1)

109 Houston police officer shot in the back after a routine traffic stop last night. Officer in stable condition. Police don't know nuffin.

Fox news
http://tinyurl.com/owqpzfz

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 07:29 AM (GkTW3)

110 There's no need to "talk" about secession, especially with our enemies. Just do it.

Posted by: Blano at June 10, 2015 07:30 AM (NHQQx)

111 Does anyone know what brand of power tools the NY escapees used?

Posted by: Tmitsss at June 10, 2015 07:30 AM (Pa9vP)

112 101 We can't defeat the Leftists until we convince people that there are absolutes again. Good and evil, truth and lies, and so on.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 07:25 AM (J+mig)


Sadly, there will always be evil. The idea is to have a society so well informed that it keeps evil in check. The last we had that was the era of Reagan. And we let it slide.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:30 AM (St6BJ)

113 The DOS is releasing hundreds of Cuban and South
American criminals to the streets because their home countries will not
take them back. I say take them back and dump them on the shores of
their country and piss on them.


http://bit.ly/1Gr3MIK

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:52 AM (GpgJl)


Cubans criminals let loose in the US? All we need now are hostages in Iran and a killer rabbit.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 10, 2015 07:30 AM (DiZBp)

114 111 Does anyone know what brand of power tools the NY escapees used?
Posted by: Tmitsss at June 10, 2015 07:30 AM (Pa9vP)


I smell an ad campaign!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:30 AM (St6BJ)

115 Does anyone know what brand of power tools the NY escapees used?

Posted by: Tmitsss at June 10, 2015 07:30 AM (Pa9vP)

Ryobi. I hope. I LOVE my Ryobi collection.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 07:30 AM (fwARV)

116 111
Does anyone know what brand of power tools the NY escapees used?

Posted by: Tmitsss at June 10, 2015 07:30 AM (Pa9vP)

The last I saw they were thinking it was an inside job with aid from a secretary.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:31 AM (GpgJl)

117
Ryobi. So that's how he was able to afford that yacht and be a scofflaw!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:31 AM (St6BJ)

118 Cubans criminals let loose in the US? All we need now are hostages in Iran and a killer rabbit.

Oh.

Joy.

It's the '70's all over again. Now where did I put those bell-bottomed jeans?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 07:32 AM (0HooB)

119 Query: Are the police currently the front line in fighting a civil war that will spread and become far more bloody?

Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 10, 2015 07:32 AM (VcOqI)

120 >>>Chuck Schumer promises democrats will paralyze the congress by filibuster this summer holding hostage the defense spending and veterans.<<<


Come along, Sherman... er, I mean Schumer... let's hop into the WABAC machine and head back to that time long, long ago when the filibuster was the Worst. Thing. Evah.

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at June 10, 2015 07:32 AM (LF5/M)

121 Marielitos Part Deux!

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:33 AM (Rh6FA)

122 Anybody here like cottage cheese?
I have a hankering for a bowl - with some of the fresh pineapple in the fridge.

Or should I get Greek yogurt instead? (Never tried it)

Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:33 AM (Y5oz1)

123 This is how Rome fell.

Of course. That's their goal.

Posted by: Orange Boner at June 10, 2015 07:33 AM (oVJmc)

124 " Are the police"

I'm not totally sure where the police fall in all of this.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:34 AM (DDeKY)

125
Did you hear what some schva-- "reverend" said?

"You won't have to worry about ISIS; you'll have to worry about US-is!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:34 AM (St6BJ)

126 Speaking of extra-humpy.

Where is LauraW?

Haven't seen her in a while.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 10, 2015 07:34 AM (2XMpf)

127 Remember way back in 2011 when Reid, Pelosi and President Obama all said the filibuster was inappropriate?

Anything they say, ever, is what they need to serve their immediate purpose. And they will say the exact opposite as soon as they need to say that.

Posted by: Orange Boner at June 10, 2015 07:35 AM (oVJmc)

128 No, we aren't moving to Texas"

Bummer. We did, and are loving it.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:35 AM (C9pBZ)

129 119 Query: Are the police currently the front line in fighting a civil war that will spread and become far more bloody?
Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 10, 2015 07:32 AM (VcOqI)


Q. E. D.

See me at 125.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:35 AM (St6BJ)

130 Haven't seen her in a while.

She did a post a couple of weeks back.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 07:35 AM (0HooB)

131 Or should I get Greek yogurt instead? (Never tried it)

Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:33 AM (Y5oz1)


Its ok. I think its a bit more tart and thicker than regular yogurt.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2015 07:35 AM (zt+N6)

132 122 Anybody here like cottage cheese?
I have a hankering for a bowl - with some of the fresh pineapple in the fridge.

Or should I get Greek yogurt instead? (Never tried it)
Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:33 AM (Y5oz1)


Sour cream and bananas. Pop Sefton's favorite snack.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:36 AM (St6BJ)

133 The latest word out from historians is that Rome did not "fall" so much as it split apart into individual towns and communities that later became the European countries like France and Italy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:37 AM (GpgJl)

134 There's no need to "talk" about secession"

Well, there goes half the "talk" in Vermont...

"Or should I get Greek yogurt "

*resists temptation to start filthy jokes this AM*

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:37 AM (C9pBZ)

135 Who are we talking about on the ONT? Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:22 AM

Just scanned ONT comments and presume Maet broomed all of teh Disruptor's posts. It musta overused the word "revolution" or something....

I did find the comments on various scrap-worthy cars amusing, particularly those referencing the late and unlamented Pontiac Aztek. In a previous life (don't ask what I was doing then -- I'll cry), GM had reason to loan me an Aztek shortly before its official public unveiling. At one point I had to run through a gas station. A young couple were looking the car over and the girl asked her male companion what it was. The guy said "it's the new Pontiac Anthrax!"

The GM rep was not amused.

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 10, 2015 07:37 AM (P8YHq)

136 133 The latest word out from historians is that Rome did not "fall" so much as it split apart into individual towns and communities that later became the European countries like France and Italy.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:37 AM (GpgJl)


Didn't Rome ultimately morph into the Catholic Church?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:37 AM (St6BJ)

137 So, Rome seceded?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:37 AM (DDeKY)

138 "You won't have to worry about ISIS; you'll have to worry about US-is!"

I saw the video. He's about as eloquent as Sharpton with the morals of Jackson.

Posted by: no good deed at June 10, 2015 07:38 AM (GgxVX)

139 @133 Yeah that's about the size of it. It was a futile system, you might say.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 10, 2015 07:39 AM (xq1UY)

140 The Pontiac Anthrax.....

Did it come with a Grail Sign?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:39 AM (Rh6FA)

141 Posted by: HAL 9000 at June 10, 2015 07:32 AM (VcOqI)

Also, see me at 73.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:39 AM (St6BJ)

142 Obama says he doesn't have a strategy for dealing with ISIS. He says the Pentagon hasn't given him one. The Pentagon says they have given him 'options'.

Options are not strategy. Options are tactics. It's the president who is expected to do the strategic thinking.

Obama does have a strategy; it is to do nothing, vote present, and blame failure on someone else. So far Obama's strategy is working. . . for Obama with half the country not interested, uncaring, and not paying attention.

So the Pentagon recommends sending 400 more bullet catchers, potential targets, potential hostages to Iraq.

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 07:39 AM (GkTW3)

143 JJ - huh? Weird. But just weird enough for me to try it.

I know most people think cottage cheese is the gross, but I learned from Dad way back when. Put a spoonful of applesauce on top, sprinkle on some cinnamon...

I'll try the greek yogurt, too, buzz.
off to the grocery store.

Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:39 AM (Y5oz1)

144 136 Didn't Rome ultimately morph into the Catholic Church?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:37 AM (St6BJ)

The city of Rome did.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:39 AM (GpgJl)

145 No hump today, it is all down hill from here, just put her in neutral and coast down.

Posted by: Picric at June 10, 2015 07:40 AM (QnQ+g)

146 We had a Hell of a thunderstorm come through yesterday evening about sundown. "

Could use some rain (I know, I know...). The deluge stopped, and it's been 100 percent dry since.

There was one heck of a lightning show last PM - so called "heat lightning".

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:40 AM (C9pBZ)

147
122- Heathen. Everybody knows you eat cottage cheese with pepper sprinkled on top of it. Fruit heretic!

However I've only tried greek yogurt once, and found it horribly, horribly sour. It was a blueberry one, and it was so incredibly sour and unpleasant I threw it out because to me it was inedible. YMMV.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at June 10, 2015 07:40 AM (tf9Ne)

148 The GOP plans on rushing Obamatrade through despite nobody having read the bill.

-
IT'S COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 10, 2015 07:40 AM (LImiJ)

149 I saw the video. He's about as eloquent as Sharpton with the morals of Jackson.

One of the imported, Soros-paid disrupters?

I'm surprised someone hasn't gotten their own bullhorn and yelled back, "We don't want you here!"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 07:40 AM (0HooB)

150 And until the middle 1800s the Holy See in Rome actually controlled about half of Italy. But you see all those temporal rulers made the Holy See give up those lands. And thus modern Italy was born.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 10, 2015 07:40 AM (Rh6FA)

151 143 I'll try the greek yogurt, too, buzz.
off to the grocery store.
Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:39 AM (Y5oz1)


Actually going to a Greek restaurant for lunch today (belated birthday lunch with the brother). Dessert is usually Greek yogurt with honey and walnuts and it is really delicious.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:41 AM (St6BJ)

152 Don't worry about that filibuster, we'll use reconciliation if we have to for appropriations just like the Dems did to pass Obamacare.



Hahahahahahaha... Just kidding. We'll just piss ourselves and curl up into the fetal position, then let them have whatever they want.

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at June 10, 2015 07:41 AM (LF5/M)

153 return to the days of 'block busting' where real estate developers secretly move a black family into a neighborhood "

Thereby depressing values and buying up property, and selling to whom, exactly?

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:41 AM (C9pBZ)

154 We don't need secession. What we need is an Art V convention and kick all the perpetually blue States out.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:41 AM (GpgJl)

155 " The deluge stopped, and it's been 100 percent dry since."


If I see a thunderstorm, I'll tell in to head south.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:41 AM (DDeKY)

156 The JEF decided on sending a mere fucking 400 troops to Iraq. Pentagon can't pop a squat without the JEF's permission.

Not even the five-sided nuthouse believes 400 troops are going to be able to accomplish fuck-all in Iraq--alongside Iranian Quds.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 10, 2015 07:42 AM (kmtse)

157 154 We don't need secession. What we need is an Art V convention and kick all the perpetually blue States out.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:41 AM (GpgJl)


Agreed. Unfortunately there are a few knuckleheads in some of the state legislatures that are gumming up the works. See Arizona.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:42 AM (St6BJ)

158 That should've been me @ 152, not some genius talking dog sock.

Posted by: Old Age Mutant Senate Turtle at June 10, 2015 07:43 AM (LF5/M)

159 What we need is an Art V convention and kick all the perpetually blue States out.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:41 AM (GpgJl)


Even with a red-state-only nation, you'd absolutely never get the Bill of Rights written into any new Constitution. There's not a single Amendment that would get enough support to pass today. Not one.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 07:43 AM (fwARV)

160 One of the imported, Soros-paid disrupters?

Sadly, he is a local.

Posted by: no good deed at June 10, 2015 07:44 AM (GgxVX)

161 Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 10, 2015 07:40 AM

This is the reason I am off of any candidate to identifies him-/her-/itself as "Republican." I don't know what inducements are prompting Boner and his cabal to act like Certified Obama Fanbois, but whatever the promised spiffs are, they do not justify this kind of anti-American behavior.

Let 'em run Marco the Rube or Jebbie and get their butts whipped. Again.

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 10, 2015 07:45 AM (P8YHq)

162 I smell an ad campaign!!!!



Breakout Tools - For When You Really Don't Want To Be Here

Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2015 07:46 AM (1PHG5)

163 Shit.
now I'm hungry for some spanakopita & a good moussaka.

Thanks a lot, JJ.

Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:46 AM (Y5oz1)

164 159 Even with a red-state-only nation, you'd absolutely never get the Bill of Rights written into any new Constitution. There's not a single Amendment that would get enough support to pass today. Not one.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 07:43 AM (fwARV)


STOP RIGHT THERE.

An Article V convention of the states is NOT a constitutional convention. It is to propose new amendments, not to draw up an entire new constitution.

And in case you missed it, the Constitution as written is either ignored, abused or abandoned on a daily basis.

I don't mean to sound angry at you personally , but this mischaracterization of the process is really irritating. We need it. Desperately. Without it, we are heading for anarchy and violence, sooner or later.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:46 AM (St6BJ)

165 It was a futile system"

Ahem.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:46 AM (C9pBZ)

166 What we need is an Art V convention

Moveon.org has been pushing for one, too.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at June 10, 2015 07:47 AM (rHXGG)

167 The GOP plans on rushing Obamatrade"

Is that sorta like rushing a frat? I mean, since we're all talking Greek here n' stuff.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:48 AM (C9pBZ)

168 I guess they found out he really was not going to put gas in their car and pay their rent. My advice to people who want to end violence, drugs, and joblessness; clean up your neighborhood and get a job. Politicians can not do this for you and if they tried the assholes in your neighborhoods would raise hell about it.


http://wapo.st/1IusEPo

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 06:51 AM (GpgJl)

The historic first woman President can do that and more.

*sadly, this is what the idiots are thinking.

Morning horde.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 10, 2015 07:48 AM (VT8YF)

169 I don't much read modern fiction but the ONT mention of gamergate got me interested in Ursula K. Le Guin. She must be emblematic of SJW in scifi: she was born in Berkeley, has lived much of her adult life in Portland, writes ponderous fiction and (at 86) claims she advocates anarchy. I bet she advocates anarchy right up until her porch flower pots are disturbed, and then she wants to know where the cops are and that right quick.

Lefties are pretty generally full of shit and that's probably even more true of 86 year old anarchists from Portlandia, I'd guess.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2015 07:49 AM (VPncT)

170 Yo!!
As usual that's all I got
Also thanks again for the news Vic.....it starts my day

Posted by: navypopojojo at June 10, 2015 07:49 AM (Ixsz4)

171
now I'm hungry for some spanakopita a good moussaka. Thanks a lot, JJ.
Posted by: chi's sandwIch




One of those Greek salads with crumbled up feta cheese sounded so good the other day.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2015 07:49 AM (kdS6q)

172 What happened last night and this morning proves that someone is a vile despicable thing that is not even human. I might have been too kind by calling it pond scum.
***

Damn. I guess it's good that I fall asleep too early to participate...

Posted by: Le-a is on a boat, MFers! at June 10, 2015 07:49 AM (vmMMi)

173 Hell on earth. Brought to you by President Progressive and his "foreign policy team".
Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2015 07:15 AM (TcePY)

Correction: brought to you by Islam and aided by President Progressive and his foreign policy.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 10, 2015 07:49 AM (nRvEn)

174 166 What we need is an Art V convention

Moveon.org has been pushing for one, too.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at June 10, 2015 07:47 AM (rHXGG)


They don't need one; they've accomplished, with GOP help, the virtual evisceration of the Constitution. He has fundamentally transformed the nation. He succeeded.

On a tactical level, the blue states could never muster the votes to pass anything vaguely anti-constitutional in an amendment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:49 AM (St6BJ)

175 This is the reason I am off of any candidate to identifies him-/her-/itself as "Republican." I don't know what inducements are prompting Boner and his cabal to act like Certified Obama Fanbois, but whatever the promised spiffs are, they do not justify this kind of anti-American behavior.


I can't figure that out either.

I've also never seen that type of thing before in my lifetime. Secret legislation? WTF? Can't read it or disclose any of the details before it's passed?
How in hell is any of that legal? Not that I expect the SCOTUS to help put things right, they're just as corrupt as this clown car of an administration.

I can't see anyone bowing to some international law/court or anything foreign to our form of government. I damn sure ain't planning on abiding by it, since it doesn't have my consent. But, then again, I won't have to since it will be forced upon me by everyone else, like businesses.

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 07:50 AM (0HooB)

176 167 The GOP plans on rushing Obamatrade"

Is that sorta like rushing a frat? I mean, since we're all talking Greek here n' stuff.
Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:48 AM (C9pBZ)


Greek would be "bum's" rush, IYKWIM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:50 AM (St6BJ)

177 The yogurt I just had for breakfast lists "chicory root fiber" as an ingredient, which seems to be an indication I should have just gone to Dunkin.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at June 10, 2015 07:50 AM (rHXGG)

178 >>>Is that sorta like rushing a frat? I mean, since we're all talking Greek here n' stuff.Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:48 AM (C9pBZ)<<<

No, but this time they really are gonna rape us...

Posted by: Rolling Stone at June 10, 2015 07:50 AM (LF5/M)

179 Good Morning! I've been up since 4 am & now going to take nap. I tried posting to ONT & got message that thread is closed?

Posted by: Carol at June 10, 2015 06:49 AM (sj3Ax)
________

Have you been working on that math puzzle for 4 hours?

Posted by: FireHorse at June 10, 2015 07:51 AM (PUS8s)

180 I bet she advocates anarchy right up until her porch flower pots are disturbed,

I'll bet she endlessly bitches about threats to her social security, too.

Posted by: Orange Boner at June 10, 2015 07:51 AM (oVJmc)

181 Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 10, 2015 07:51 AM (KBcYf)

182 Without it, we are heading for anarchy and violence, sooner or later.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:46 AM (St6BJ)


I'll rephrase.

With an Article V, there's no way to keep text that limits, mitigates or removes previous Amendments out of the new additions.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 07:52 AM (fwARV)

183 Moveon.org has been pushing for one, too.

And therein lies the rub.

Some of those pushing for an Art. V convention are thinking "oh, boy, we can get all the True Patriots together and straighten out the mess!!11!!"

It doesn't work that way. The friggin' Choom Gang will get seats at the table as well, and they will not play by the rules (they never do).

Think about having the Mocha Messiah and his bankrupt race-baiters, the Bernie Sanders Brigade and Nanzi Pelosi's best buds pushing new amendments and, worse, getting them passed By Any Means Necessary.

Yeah. Works for me, too....

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 10, 2015 07:52 AM (P8YHq)

184 "but this mischaracterization of the process is really irritating."

The process is nothing. The people running the process is everything. You put your faith in laws, and courts, and lawyers and police departments, and you get Obama and his crooks and crooked lawyers and crooked politicians, and crooked news media with half the population afraid or indifferent.

and you end up in the gulags sent there by a judge who followed the process of which you are so fond, all legal, all constitutional because you let the people running the process define the language, define the words, define the crime.

Why do you think the news media is banging the drum to define conservative political views as hate crimes.

Democracy? Pffffft. What was it Stalin said, "let the people vote, I'l count the votes." or some such.

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 07:53 AM (GkTW3)

185 (Adds feta cheese to grocery list as he heads out the door)

Good morning, Le dash a!

Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:53 AM (RO+JA)

186 good morning

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 10, 2015 07:54 AM (0O7c5)

187 183 It doesn't work that way. The friggin' Choom Gang
will get seats at the table as well, and they will not play by the rules
(they never do).

Think about having the Mocha Messiah and his
bankrupt race-baiters, the Bernie Sanders Brigade and Nanzi Pelosi's
best buds pushing new amendments and, worse, getting them passed By Any
Means Necessary.

Yeah. Works for me, too....


Posted by: MrScribbler at June 10, 2015 07:52 AM (P8YHq)


A lot of people keep saying that but there are more red States than Blue and each State only gets one vote. Some of those perpetually Blue States will push for more choom but the Red States can shut them down.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 07:54 AM (GpgJl)

188 182 With an Article V, there's no way to keep text that limits, mitigates or removes previous Amendments out of the new additions.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 07:52 AM (fwARV)


Beg to disagree. The reps will not allow anything idiotic into an Amendment. And any rep who tries it will be dismissed by his own state delegation.

I really suggest you read "Liberty Amendments." The case is solid for Article V. It is our only legal recourse at this stage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:54 AM (St6BJ)

189 I searched the ONT thread for "12.65" and came up with nothing. Didn't find it here, either. Am I the only one who came up with that for problem #1?

Posted by: FireHorse at June 10, 2015 07:54 AM (PUS8s)

190 >>Trustees for the Sacramento City Unified School District have approved creating an ethnic studies course for high schools and implementing it as a graduation requirement by 2020. The resolution was approved unanimously

If this meant they would teach straight history and put all the bullshiit in one class kids could safely ignore that might be a good thing.

Of course they won't. And no class should be so unspecific as 'studies'.

Posted by: Le-a is on a boat, MFers! at June 10, 2015 07:54 AM (vmMMi)

191 Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:46 AM (Y5oz1)

I dated a chick in college who could do both...and it was amazing.

Oh....wait....never mind.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 10, 2015 07:54 AM (Zu3d9)

192 I don't much read modern fiction but the ONT mention of gamergate got me interested in Ursula K. Le Guin.


I actually read the first 2 Wizard of Earthsea books in junior high. They were pretty much Harry Potter before Rowling.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2015 07:54 AM (zt+N6)

193 What I cannot for the life of me understand is why anyone in Congress (and especially the GOP) would support "secret legislation" that no one has read and is intended to give TFG a blank check power.

Absolutely fucking bizarre. What are they afraid of?

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2015 07:55 AM (VPncT)

194 Papa Papadapolous is offering breakfast gyros now.




*no coffee... still dreaming

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 10, 2015 07:55 AM (VT8YF)

195 Anybody stopped to consider that the DoJ and its cohorts send in people to post inflammatory comments and then swoop in with a subpeona to essentially take you over?

False Flag has never been so easy!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 10, 2015 07:56 AM (oVJmc)

196 They don't need one

But they want one, and if one happens they'll participate.

I have no idea why people think a convention is going to yield the pure conservativism of their wet dreams. It's a public process. You can't limit participation to only people you like.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at June 10, 2015 07:56 AM (rHXGG)

197 >>>>>Moveon.org has been pushing for one, too.

And therein lies the rub.

Some of those pushing for an Art. V convention are thinking "oh, boy, we can get all the True Patriots together and straighten out the mess!!11!!"

It doesn't work that way. The friggin' Choom Gang will get seats at the table as well, and they will not play by the rules (they never do).

Think about having the Mocha Messiah and his bankrupt race-baiters, the Bernie Sanders Brigade and Nanzi Pelosi's best buds pushing new amendments and, worse, getting them passed By Any Means Necessary.

Yeah. Works for me, too....
.
.
.This. Every State gets a seat at the Art V table. I am not sure why some people think it is a good way to get something done.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 10, 2015 07:56 AM (iONHu)

198 The yogurt I just had for breakfast lists "chicory root fiber" as an ingredient"

Er,

No.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:57 AM (C9pBZ)

199 195 Anybody stopped to consider that the DoJ and its cohorts send in people to post inflammatory comments and then swoop in with a subpeona to essentially take you over?

False Flag has never been so easy!
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 10, 2015 07:56 AM (oVJmc)



Speaking of laws no one is allowed to read, what about that 800 page FCC takeover of the internet a few months back?

Hello?

(*crickets*)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:57 AM (St6BJ)

200 Don't know if it was covered but Mosby told police to come down harder on the neighborhood weeks before.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 10, 2015 07:57 AM (VT8YF)

201 193 What I cannot for the life of me understand is why anyone in Congress (and especially the GOP) would support "secret legislation" that no one has read and is intended to give TFG a blank check power.

Absolutely fucking bizarre. What are they afraid of?
Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2015 07:55 AM (VPncT)

Each of them has probably done something that their mother wouldn't forgive (with politicians, it's generally a safe assumption), and thanks to all of the illegal snooping and other actions of the Obama administration, they're probably being blackmailed.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 07:57 AM (J+mig)

202 193 What I cannot for the life of me understand is why anyone in Congress (and especially the GOP) would support "secret legislation" that no one has read and is intended to give TFG a blank check power.

I'll take "filthy fascist cocksuckers" for a thousand, Alex.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 10, 2015 07:58 AM (KBcYf)

203 Absolutely fucking bizarre. What are they afraid of?"

Nothing. "They're" simply expanding the limits on Federal powers with the knowledge that they, too, will someday have their hands on the levers of said powers.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:58 AM (C9pBZ)

204 197 .This. Every State gets a seat at the Art V table. I am not sure why some people think it is a good way to get something done.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 10, 2015 07:56 AM (iONHu)


Red state legislatures outnumber blue by significant numbers thanks to the midterms of 2010 and 2014.

The blue states cannot do jack shit. Legally that is. Anything they try to enact will never see the light of day, let alone have the 3/5 majority to be enacted.

Ain't gonna happen. ARTICLE 5 NOW.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:59 AM (St6BJ)

205 197 .This. Every State gets a seat at the Art V table. I am not sure why some people think it is a good way to get something done.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 10, 2015 07:56 AM (iONHu)


Red state legislatures outnumber blue by significant numbers thanks to the midterms of 2010 and 2014.

The blue states cannot do jack shit. Legally that is. Anything they try to enact will never see the light of day, let alone have the 3/5 majority to be enacted.

Ain't gonna happen. ARTICLE 5 NOW.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:59 AM (St6BJ)

206 Beg to disagree. The reps will not allow anything idiotic into an Amendment. And any rep who tries it will be dismissed by his own state delegation.

I really suggest you read "Liberty Amendments." The case is solid for Article V. It is our only legal recourse at this stage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:54 AM (St6BJ)

I've read it, and no, it's not our only legal recourse. It's probably our preferred legal recourse, but certainly not the only one spelled out in our founding documents.

As to the faith you have in the state reps... I just don't.

If you believe people like Boehner or McCain wouldn't get seats, or even amnesty hawks like Rubio, I'm just not sure we'll see eye to eye.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 07:59 AM (fwARV)

207 Each of them has probably done something that their mother wouldn't forgive (with politicians, it's generally a safe assumption), and thanks to all of the illegal snooping and other actions of the Obama administration, they're probably being blackmailed.

I wouldn't doubt it.

It says several thing about DC, none of them good. I guess the DC mafia is running things now.

We couldn't keep it. Sorry, Ben.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 07:59 AM (0HooB)

208 Speaking of laws no one is allowed to read, what about that 800 page FCC takeover of the internet a few months back? "

Otherwise known as the "Communication Lawyer Full Employment Act of 2015"?

That pile of steaming exc..er, greek yogurt?

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:00 AM (C9pBZ)

209 202 An Art V convention gives the Left access to the source code of the Constitution.

It would be a disaster.
Posted by: eman at June 10, 2015 07:57 AM (MQEz6)


Um, no it won't. You don't understand the process and what it takes to enact amendments as well as the impossible math the left has to deal with.

Read Levin's friggin' book, okay?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:00 AM (St6BJ)

210 207 As to the faith you have in the state reps... I just don't.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 07:59 AM (fwARV)

Then we're fucked, and we better face it now and figure out the immediate next steps because the ship is on fire and sinking.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:01 AM (St6BJ)

211 I've been calling for Article V for a while too. With the DC elites in control of the "opposition" party and pulling Obama's freight for him, we don't have a snowball's chance in hell of achieving anything with them in power.

When what you've already done isn't working, you should try the option that has the virtue of never having been tried.

At this point, even if it fails, it's not doing any harm that wouldn't have happened anyway.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 08:02 AM (J+mig)

212 Pres. I am the world, has been busy telling the Brits that they need to stay in the EU. The Brits are closer to a get out referendum than they have ever been. This trade deal has gone all squishy in Europe.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2015 08:02 AM (BOnxM)

213 We were told the way to fix things was to win elections.Well...

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2015 08:02 AM (sPO3u)

214 212 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 08:02 AM (J+mig)

They cannot ignore an amendment that is enacted and if they do, then really all bets are off.

And that would be the last straw.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:03 AM (St6BJ)

215 Any crazy bullshit amendment proposed would still have to be ratified by 3/4ths of the states. There's plenty of red states to be able to block something insane.
Now is as good a time as any to try.

Posted by: Article V at June 10, 2015 08:03 AM (LF5/M)

216 I've been thinking a lot about the Unified Field Theory of Madness someone posted yesterday. It's a very nice philosophical analysis and takedown of Leftist thought:

http://tinyurl.com/ody8czg

A summary would do this piece an injustice, but suffice it to say one of the cornerstones is the Leftist inability to connect cause and effect in any rational way. This is because the Leftist school has declared huge swaths of reason as bigoted or otherwise invalid, so all he is left with is a preening sense of intellectual superiority to cover up the failure of his theories.

Seriously, read it.

I bring it up because I see Obama sending more troops to Iraq to "train" their army. The same army that dropped its arms and ran at the first sight of ISIS. In other words, the exact thing that didn't work at all. Precisely what the Unified Field Theory of Madness said happens with Leftists.

Amazing to me.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 10, 2015 08:03 AM (eytER)

217 Posted by: Ben Had at June 10, 2015 08:02 AM (BOnxM)

Churchill had it right. In any choice between Europe and the open sea, England should pick the sea.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 08:03 AM (J+mig)

218 "We were told the way to fix things was to win elections."

Now that shit's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

Posted by: John Boner in Assless Chaps at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (KBcYf)

219 It took me a while to solve the math problem in the ONT but I finally got it.

The trick is to find a 12 cm rod that's 4 cm in circumference and wrap a string around it. It was late and the hardware store was closed, so I made my own out of a baseball bat. I know, it tapers slightly, but towards the end it's about 4 cm thick and it practically a perfect cylinder.

Then I reread the problem and saw that it's 4 cm in circumference, not diameter. I put the piece of bat on the lathe and trimmed it down. This took out all of the tapering, too. Lacking a string, I used a rubber band, which I wrapped around the rod and measured. I measured a second time and got a different answer.

Duh! It's elastic. It stretches. So I put the rubber band in the freezer, waited a few hours, and tried it again. It was kind of stiff, but I sort of rolled it over the surface of the bat. When it broke, I tried it again with a tape measure.

I came up with 12.65 cm - the hundreths, of course, being an approximation. Anyone else?

Posted by: FireHorse at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (PUS8s)

220 Then we're fucked, and we better face it now and figure out the immediate next steps because the ship is on fire and sinking.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:01 AM (St6BJ)


That's where I am on more days than I'd care to admit.

As to what I'm doing? Making sure my family is protected/provided for. If I'm even 15% right, bad things are coming. We can sort out big-picture stuff afterwards, but priority one is taking care of my people.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (fwARV)

221 "
The yogurt I just had for breakfast"

Fajitas.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (DDeKY)

222 If a string bikini is wrapped around Kim Kardashian's ass nine times and the ass circumference is 90 centimeters what is the length of the string?

Posted by: Anthropology Guy at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (ANXl6)

223 I had understood that Art. 5 conventions have three checks on their power: the issues to be addressed can be stipulated in advance by the state legislature resolution authorizing the convention, the convention itself would be dominated by Red states by number, and any amendments resulting from the convention must be adopted by individual votes of the state legislatures.

With those checks available I'm less afraid of an Art 5 convention than I am watching the current mess going forward.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (VPncT)

224 Any crazy bullshit amendment proposed would still have to be ratified by 3/4ths of the states.

I'm hearing "our desired reform amendment has to be ratified by 3/4 of the states."

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at June 10, 2015 08:05 AM (rHXGG)

225 The Bedford Incident is on.Movies! ,if youhave it,

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2015 08:05 AM (sPO3u)

226
Papa Papadapolous is offering breakfast gyros now.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA




A charbroiled pork chop plate, with salad and grilled peppers.

Now I'm going to have to go out for lunch.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 10, 2015 08:05 AM (kdS6q)

227 Now is as good a time as any to try.
Posted by: Article V at June 10, 2015 08:03 AM (LF5/M)

Even more to the point... every other option has failed, except the one that every right-thinking person would prefer to avoid if it could be avoided and still obtain a good outcome.

What do we have to lose?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 08:05 AM (J+mig)

228 219 So you you have faith in a process designed to fix a thing that already fails to follow a well-defined process.

Posted by: eman at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (MQEz6)

I have faith in myself and a significant portion of my fellow citizens. I could not live with myself if I didn't do whatever I can as an individual within the rule of law and my morals/ethics to reverse this madness.

Gotta try if for no other reason than to say that I did. Who knows? Might work.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:06 AM (St6BJ)

229 The trick is to find a 12 cm rod that's 4 cm in circumference

TWSS.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at June 10, 2015 08:06 AM (rHXGG)

230 "They cannot ignore an amendment that is enacted and if they do, then really all bets are off."


They do it all the fcukin' time, JJ.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 08:06 AM (DDeKY)

231 You don't understand the process and what it takes to enact amendments as well as the impossible math the left has to deal with.

Read Levin's friggin' book, okay?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:00 AM

Sir, you are a smart guy and say a lot of things that I agree with, or am at least indifferent to.

But on this 'process' obsession you have you are making the very same mistake the gun control advocates make and that is if we just pass another gun control law the criminals won't have guns to use in their dastardly deeds. The problem is, criminals don't obey the law. You can pass as many laws as you want, the criminals don't care.

In the same way, you can set up a legal process as elaborate as you want, with as many safe guards as you deem necessary. Obama doesn't care. He is going to fuck you anyway, process or no.

That's the whole fucking point. We are beyond process now

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 08:06 AM (GkTW3)

232 If a string bikini is wrapped around Kim Kardashian's ass nine times and the ass circumference is 90 centimeters what is the length of the string?

14.235 KWests.

What? It's metric.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 08:06 AM (0HooB)

233 It seems to me that fidelity to the Constitution requires good faith, a faith we've not seen in the Federal Government for some time now.

I want to be optimistic about an Article V, but what good is the output if the Federal Government will ignore it anyway?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 10, 2015 08:07 AM (eytER)

234 They cannot ignore an amendment that is enacted and if they do, then really all bets are off.

And that would be the last straw.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:03 AM (St6BJ)


I really don't mean this to sound snarky, but they've been ignoring amendments since... forever.

Honest question: Why would ignoring new amendments be a deal-breaker when ignoring the previous amendments isn't?

I really read that (internally, not because of anything you stated) as 'I'll leave if he hits me one more time.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:07 AM (fwARV)

235 If a string bikini is wrapped around Kim Kardashian's ass nine times and the ass circumference is 90 centimeters what is the length of the string?"

Uh, "Chicago"?

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:07 AM (C9pBZ)

236 214 We were told the way to fix things was to win elections.Well...

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2015 08:02 AM (sPO3u)



Yep. Remember when we were told we had to vote Republican to win the senate? Because Boehner was actually getting good bills passed in the House and it was Harry Reid holding them up by refusing to let those be voted on in the Senate. And by winning the Senate all those awesome bills would finally be voted on and it would force Obama and Democrats to actually take a position and vote against or veto all these great bills?


Yeah we're seeing those just flying through the House now aren't we.

Posted by: buzzion at June 10, 2015 08:07 AM (zt+N6)

237 233 That's the whole fucking point. We are beyond process now
Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 08:06 AM (GkTW3)


Well, if that is the case - and it sadly may very well be - then I am now open to suggestions.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:08 AM (St6BJ)

238 Damn Firehorse.

Way to work the problem

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 10, 2015 08:08 AM (VT8YF)

239 Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (fwARV)

You might have guns, and food, and maybe even a nice bolthole up in the mountains.

They have tanks, bunker busters, thousands of aircraft, property records, and time.

We either stop this from happening, or we don't survive it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 08:08 AM (J+mig)

240 I came up with 12.65 cm - the hundreths, of course, being an approximation. Anyone else?
Posted by: FireHorse at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (PUS8s)


It was easy. I just remembered how I did math when I was in high school. I beat up a math nerd and made him work the problem for me.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (Dj0WE)

241 I don't know how you would keep the fingers and influence of an already-corrupt system out of an Article V convention.

If Washington pols didn't work to block it entirely, they'd work to subvert it. A state legislature being in the hands of Republicans might be as meaningless as the Senate and House being in the hands of Republicans.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (oVJmc)

242 Scankles has signed on to the SEIU $15/hour minimum wage for fast food workers, which in actuality is a bid to unionize them into their union. big boost to the robot and food kiosk industries

FIFY

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (O7MnT)

243 That's the whole fucking point. We are beyond process now"

Hmm. I oncetuponatime heard a Prezzy say something about having a phone and a pen...

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (C9pBZ)

244 I'm undecided on the wisdom of an Art V convention, but I have a question:

Given that we have a Constitution that government ignores now, why would government not just ignore any changes made to it?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (KBcYf)

245 They cannot ignore an amendment that is enacted and if they do, then really all bets are off.
And that would be the last straw.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:03 AM


"They" can't? Where you been the last six-plus years?

If an Art. V convention was actually convened, and was made up of sensible, patriotic Americans, I would ask only one result: an Amendment commanding Our Betters in government to obey and enforce existing laws, without regard for race, creed, social class or electoral status.

Within minutes of such an amendment's enactment, Choom Boy and every member of Congress would be under indictment. The power shift would be astonishing and virtually instantaneous.

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (P8YHq)

246 We either stop this from happening, or we don't survive it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 08:08 AM (J+mig)


I agree completely with this.

The thing is, there is only one way to stop it. Once again, Reagan nailed it: "There is one guaranteed way to have peace, and you can have it in the next second - surrender."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (fwARV)

247 For those pushing for an Art. V Convention, why?

The current constitution works fine. It is the lack of enforcement for disregarding it that is broken.

What magical reason would make people follow a new amendment, if they aren't following the one's we have now?

I guess the question can be applied to any new law. What makes you think people will obey ANY new law if the penalties for breaking it are not enforced?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (1PHG5)

248 I don't know about anyone else, but being abducted by aliens is looking more appealing by the day. Room/board, Elvis, anal probes...

What?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 10, 2015 08:10 AM (659DL)

249 137 So, Rome seceded?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 07:37 AM (DDeKY)

No, Rome burned. Everyone else seceded. Not an expert, but the basic theory now is that Rome basically started ceding power, due to Rome's decaying power and decadence, to outlying areas to groups that were supposed to have allegiance to Rome. Of course that didn't work as those groups had their own agenda. Think Democrats importing a new people and somehow thinking they will always control those people instead of those groups having their own cultures and agendas.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 10, 2015 08:10 AM (nRvEn)

250 Question: Will the DOJ be empowered to offer primo accommodations to early arrivals at FEMA camps?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2015 08:11 AM (VPncT)

251 This is how Rome fell.

I think of it as a symptom of a sick society, not a cause. When a society is wealthy and decadent enough that it abhors serious things and embraces frivolous things, it's a symptom of third-stage Cycle of Apostasy.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 10, 2015 08:11 AM (O7MnT)

252 The current constitution works fine. It is the lack of enforcement for disregarding it that is broken.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (1PHG5)
________

Bingo.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 10, 2015 08:11 AM (PUS8s)

253 If an Art. V convention was actually convened, and was made up of sensible, patriotic Americans,

Bit of a premise problem there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 10, 2015 08:11 AM (659DL)

254 Umm, yeah, I am going to go with that barnstock guy.

California had this bright idea to make the redistricting process non-political and have citizen committees draw the lines. So of course the Democrats infiltrated and took over the non-political process.

Because they just didn't have enough electoral advantage.

Posted by: blaster at June 10, 2015 08:11 AM (2Ocf1)

255 They cannot ignore an amendment that is enacted and if they do"

What.

Note the Judge fishing for anon posters to Reason and get back to me about that, 'k?

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:11 AM (C9pBZ)

256 243 A state legislature being in the hands of Republicans might be as meaningless as the Senate and House being in the hands of Republicans.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (oVJmc)


Well, in the case of Arizona, the state legislature overwhelmingly wants to be involved in the process BUT - the state assembly leader has blocked a vote to come to the floor. He is GOP-e.

The other problem is the only amendments we seem to be hearing about is balanced budget. That is a good one but there are so many more. Like term limits and a flat tax.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:12 AM (St6BJ)

257 We need it. Desperately. Without it, we are heading for anarchy and violence, sooner or later.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 07:46 AM (St6BJ)

What I don't understand is how will Art. 5 make the Left start obeying the Constitution? Not opposed to it, just don't see how the enforcement mechanism changes, as it were.

Posted by: East Bay KG at June 10, 2015 08:12 AM (uDCdI)

258 Room/board, Elvis, anal probes..."

2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:12 AM (C9pBZ)

259 >>I'm hearing "our desired reform amendment has to be ratified by 3/4 of the states."Posted by:HR trinken trinken trinkenat June 10, 2015 08:05 AM (rHXGG)<<<

Yes. That is true too. So it won't be a cake walk. But giving the states a chance to reign in power of the Federal leviathan without the Feds having a say may prove just tempting enough to get cooperation for change.

Posted by: Article V at June 10, 2015 08:12 AM (LF5/M)

260
Good morning, Le dash a!
Posted by: chi's sandwIch at June 10, 2015 07:53 AM (RO+JA)

Morning! I like Greek yogurt. I mix it in when I make hummus.

Posted by: Le-a is on a boat, MFers! at June 10, 2015 08:13 AM (vmMMi)

261 257 Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:11 AM (C9pBZ)


So, okay. Now I'm completely depressed. But I still favor the process if for no other reason than perhaps a symbolic one to rouse the silent overwhelming majority.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:13 AM (St6BJ)

262 About three weeks before Freddie Gray was chased from a West Baltimore corner by three Baltimore police officers -- the start of a fatal encounter -- the office of prosecutor Marilyn Mosby asked police to target the intersection with "enhanced" drug enforcement efforts, court documents show.

"State's Attorney Mosby asked me to look into community concerns regarding drug dealing in the area of North Ave and Mount St," Joshua Rosenblatt, division chief of Mosby's Crime Strategies Unit, wrote in a March 17 email to a Western District police commander.

Posted by: Patriots ball boy at June 10, 2015 08:13 AM (e8kgV)

263 What I don't understand is how will Art. 5 make the Left start obeying the Constitution"

Hahahahahahahaha. That's some funny...

wait, that's not a joke?

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:13 AM (C9pBZ)

264 With the great advances made in anal probe technology they are no great hardship.There are no aliens however,the UFO's are crewed by fags from the future.

Posted by: steevy at June 10, 2015 08:14 AM (sPO3u)

265 259 What I don't understand is how will Art. 5 make the Left start obeying the Constitution? Not opposed to it, just don't see how the enforcement mechanism changes, as it were.
Posted by: East Bay KG at June 10, 2015 08:12 AM (uDCdI)

It all depends on what Amendments are passed. Imagine Term Limits and a Flat Tax. Right there you'd cut their power and the corruption.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:14 AM (St6BJ)

266 153
return to the days of 'block busting' where real estate developers secretly move a black family into a neighborhood "



Thereby depressing values and buying up property, and selling to whom, exactly?

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 07:41 AM (C9pBZ)
________________________________________
Already in the works. Called Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing (AFFH) rule by that LaRaza guy over at HUD. Vote to attempt to block funding (Gosar Amendment) in the House last night. Info at Powerline. Called my Congressman but don't know how the vote turned out.When I did call Congresscritter to see how he was going to vote -- aide said he had not decided yet "waiting to hear from constituents" -- What's to decide? And how many of your constituents even know about this?


Posted by: gracepmc at June 10, 2015 08:14 AM (xvd51)

267 >>Lada, Yugo, Fiat, or Moskva?

I heard on the radio that Fiat is looking to buy Government Motors.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 10, 2015 08:15 AM (O7MnT)

268 Within minutes of such an amendment's enactment, Choom Boy and every member of Congress would be under indictment. The power shift would be astonishing and virtually instantaneous.

In addition to taking impeachment off the table (which is probably what future historians will note was our downfall), why did no one dare stand up and tell TFG and the rest of the nation that, even tho' he's preezy and all, he still has to follow the law? He can't do anything he pleases, contrary to popular leftard opinion.

How are we to function as a nation if the people we send to DC refuse to honor their Oath of Office?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 08:15 AM (0HooB)

269 perhaps a symbolic one to rouse the silent overwhelming majority. "

Yeah, 'bout that. I recall the Nixon administration as well...

and note that only about one third of the colonial population actively supported revolution.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:15 AM (C9pBZ)

270 Even a black president was unable to heal places still gripped by violence, drugs and joblessness.


*Knock, Knock.*

Whut?

Clue here. May I come in?

Go away, -baitin'.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at June 10, 2015 08:15 AM (o4QuK)

271 >>alifornia had this bright idea to make the redistricting process non-political and have citizen committees draw the lines. So of course the Democrats infiltrated and took over the non-political process.

There is a state that does it non politically but they have a computer draw the lines I think, based on a set of parameters that makes sense..Ohio? Iowa? One of thoseish...

Posted by: Le-a is on a boat, MFers! at June 10, 2015 08:15 AM (vmMMi)

272 "Bit of a premise problem there."

And I don't trust any pols, R and sure as Hell not D, to represent honestly in any such event. Liars, thieves, would be tyrants them all.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 08:16 AM (DDeKY)

273 246
I'm undecided on the wisdom of an Art V convention, but I have a question:



Given that we have a Constitution that government ignores now, why would government not just ignore any changes made to it?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 10, 2015 08:09 AM (KBcYf)


The trick would be to put some actual teeth in it. Violators like Obama would be automatically impeached and required to be tried in the Senate. If the Senate acquitted then the States would get an option to try him. And if he ignored it then a final option would be to declare him a non-person who has no employees or right to exist. i.e. open season

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 08:16 AM (GpgJl)

274 I'd love to see the 17th repealed. It's hopelessly unbalanced our process.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 10, 2015 08:16 AM (oVJmc)

275 Lace Wigs changing to new growth industry: Jackboots.

Jackboots.

Posted by: Jackboots, Formerly Lace Wigs at June 10, 2015 08:16 AM (KBcYf)

276 "Amendment commanding Our Betters in government to obey and enforce existing laws"

That is exactly what Obama is doing right now. enforce the existing law as he defines the law. Listen to what he says. That is exactly what is going on in McKinney Texas, right now. That police department is being investigated for breaking federal civil rights law. That is exactly the pretext Obama is using for 'monitoring' local police departments and 'training' police departments in the proper enforcement of Obama's law.

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 08:16 AM (GkTW3)

277 Bit of a premise problem there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 10, 2015 08:11 AM


Yeah. I was just taking the Mark Levin approach for a second and making the assumption that the ghosts of the Founders would inhabit the bodies of the new "Art. V-ers." S'cuse me.

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 10, 2015 08:17 AM (P8YHq)

278 I heard on the radio that Fiat is looking to buy Government Motors"

Sort of. It's an internal (FIAT) political game.
Would be funny as s*it, though.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:17 AM (C9pBZ)

279 "Clue here. May I come in?"

Heh.

Didn't want to. Only wanted to exploit for personal gain. Thus, a politician.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 08:17 AM (DDeKY)

280 Posted by: FireHorse at June 10, 2015 08:04 AM (PUS8s)

The answer is 20 cm.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 10, 2015 08:18 AM (hVp2k)

281
By the way, the Article V process itself is difficult and even then it will take time for the effects to be felt as new laws kick in.

Moot point. As much as I (and only a few others here) am in favor of it, I don't see it happening. Too many people are trying to stop it and there may not even be enough time left.

And the fact that it is attacked alone tells you that it is feared by the Statists.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:18 AM (St6BJ)

282 The answer is 20 cm."

Question is "what is one weird trick to increase your..."

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:19 AM (C9pBZ)

283 Good morning

Posted by: Bigby's Snapping Fingers at June 10, 2015 08:19 AM (3ZtZW)

284 " Imagine Term Limits and a Flat Tax. Right there you'd cut their power and the corruption."



Love 'em both. But neither would come out. Even if only Red states participated.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 08:20 AM (DDeKY)

285 Alinsky's Rules for Radicals #4

"Make the enemy live up to it's own book of Rules."

McKinney Texas. Police use excessive force in restraining a group of innocent teenagers.

Baltimore

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 08:20 AM (GkTW3)

286 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 08:16 AM (GpgJl)

State Impeachment Amendment.

A 2/3 majority of States can vote to impeach a Senator, Congressman, President, or appointed government official that needs to be impeached if their respective branch of government if guilty of any particular crimes from a fairly long list.

The Impeachment tribunal that followed would be a lot of fun to watch.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 08:20 AM (J+mig)

287 279 Yeah. I was just taking the Mark Levin approach for a second and making the assumption that the ghosts of the Founders would inhabit the bodies of the new "Art. V-ers." S'cuse me.
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 10, 2015 08:17 AM (P8YHq)


Not everyone in government sucks or is amoral and a goniff. Way too many are, but not all. If you go back to the Revolution, the political makeup is surprisingly similar to what we have today. About a third in favor of independence, a third loyal to the king and a third who were colonial LIV's who only cared about ye olde Kardashians.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:20 AM (St6BJ)

288 Morning all

Is it ever going to be morning in America again?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 10, 2015 08:20 AM (rDqRv)

289 ER. If their respective branch of government fails to do so, despite criminal charges.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 10, 2015 08:21 AM (J+mig)

290 My guess on the string problem is pi*diameter*4 + length of cynlinder, but I haven't bothered to see if that's correct.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 10, 2015 08:21 AM (oVJmc)

291 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 10, 2015 08:21 AM (KCxzN)

292 What I don't understand is how will
Art. 5 make the Left start obeying the
Constitution"


Drumhead courts martial with summary execution at gavel drop.

The 2nd Amendment states, "Shall not be infringed".

The very words, "gun laws" PROVES infringement.
People need to pay. Dearly.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 10, 2015 08:21 AM (1PHG5)

293 "And the fact that it is attacked alone tells you that it is feared by the Statists. "

That's delusional. The Statists would love to get a chance to write more law.

Posted by: hobart barnstock at June 10, 2015 08:21 AM (GkTW3)

294 "If neither side or both sides get what they want, there will be civil war."



Dude.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 08:22 AM (DDeKY)

295 Not everyone in government sucks or is amoral and a goniff"

Ah, the days of misspent youth growing up in the lower east side...
and Yiddish being the primary language.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:22 AM (C9pBZ)

296 289 Posted by: eman at June 10, 2015 08:20 AM (MQEz6)


**DEEP SIGH**

I tried. I really, really tried to explain it. But I'm a'choppin' and there ain't no chips a'flyin'.

Forget it. Read Levin's book. You may totally disagree with it but the premise is solid. Jeez just go to the library if you don't want to buy it.

But I've said my peace.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:22 AM (St6BJ)

297 Levin has three suggestions for amendments that should be appealing enough for the states to cooperate on, as it helps them seize back a lot of power from the feds.
1- impose Congressional term limits.
2- repeal the 17th amendment, go back to electing Senators by the state legislatures.
3- setup a mechanism for 2/3rds of the states to nullify federal laws.

Posted by: Article V at June 10, 2015 08:23 AM (LF5/M)

298 298 Ah, the days of misspent youth growing up in the lower east side...
and Yiddish being the primary language.
Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:22 AM (C9pBZ)


Actually, it was Flatbush/Midwood and Hungarian.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:23 AM (St6BJ)

299 Posted by: MTF at June 10, 2015 07:49 AM (VPncT)

I haven't read any of her books. But her argument against Amazon was confusing to say the least. Who in their right mind thinks that Amazon only pushes best sellers? I see books all the time I never heard of that look interesting. Books I never would have seen in a book store.

Also loved the left going nuts over Tor censuring one of their employees for bad mouthing Sad Puppies. One comment I loved was along the lines of because Sad Puppies stated they don't think books should be judged by the authors , it just shows they aren't committed to diversity. Meanwhile they did admit that Sad Puppies had nominated people that weren't white males.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 10, 2015 08:24 AM (nRvEn)

300 Regardless of those who think an Art V convention would not be successful; NOTHING could be worse than what we have now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 08:24 AM (GpgJl)

301 I big shout out to the NY Mets for their outstanding performance last night!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 10, 2015 08:24 AM (rDqRv)

302 The answer is 20 cm.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 10, 2015 08:18 AM
________

Seriously?

Oh, wait a minute ...

Posted by: FireHorse at June 10, 2015 08:24 AM (PUS8s)

303 Is it ever going to be morning in America again?"

Yes, it will. Of that, I have no doubt.

Posted by: anon a mouse at June 10, 2015 08:25 AM (C9pBZ)

304 Since the govt is not following the current Constitution (may it be praised), what's the point of adding / subtracting anything to a document no one follows anyway?

Newsflash: Modern Americans do not WANT to follow the Constitution or anything else that limits their greed, avarice, license, and access to free shit.

The violence and chaos is coming; not because the Constitution is in any way inadequate or complete, but because people don't want it. The Constitution is based on voluntary adherence by a majority of like-minded people and THAT majority has long since disappeared.

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at June 10, 2015 08:25 AM (nqiq9)

305 Levin has three suggestions for amendments that should be appealing enough for the states to cooperate on, as it helps them seize back a lot of power from the feds.
1- impose Congressional term limits.
2- repeal the 17th amendment, go back to electing Senators by the state legislatures.
3- setup a mechanism for 2/3rds of the states to nullify federal laws.


I have one, too: rewrite the 14th Amendment to state that in order to be born an American citizen, both parents must be American citizens.

Or whatever they need to do to stop this "anchor baby" bullshit. AFAIK, there aren't many other countries who allow for that idiotic premise.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 08:26 AM (0HooB)

306 NOTHING could be worse than what we have now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 08:24 AM (GpgJl)


I'd argue that Americans killing each other on a scale relative to the Civil War would be worse.

Exponentially.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:26 AM (fwARV)

307 3- setup a mechanism for 2/3rds of the states to nullify federal laws.

Within a week, three million leftists would die of stroke.

Faster, please

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at June 10, 2015 08:26 AM (o4QuK)

308 Or whatever they need to do to stop this "anchor baby" bullshit. AFAIK, there aren't many other countries who allow for that idiotic premise.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at June 10, 2015 08:26 AM (0HooB)


Even Harry Reid tried to get rid of birthright citizenship.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:26 AM (fwARV)

309 All right. Time out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 10, 2015 08:26 AM (DDeKY)

310 The answer is 20 cm.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 10, 2015 08:18 AM
________

Yes, 20 cm. It certainly is.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 10, 2015 08:27 AM (PUS8s)

311 303 Regardless of those who think an Art V convention would not be successful; NOTHING could be worse than what we have now.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 08:24 AM (GpgJl)


THIS, THIS. 1000X THIS.

(But, considering history, it could be worse)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:29 AM (St6BJ)

312 309 I'd argue that Americans killing each other on a scale relative to the Civil War would be worse.

Exponentially.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:26 AM (fwARV)

That is what we are going to have sooner or later if we don't do something.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 08:29 AM (GpgJl)

313 Early news dump thread is up...

Posted by: CanaDave at June 10, 2015 08:30 AM (hqCH/)

314 Navy Blue Angels F/A-18's literally falling apart in midair.

http://tinyurl.com/nt9ssre

Main causes: gutted maintenance budgets, F-35 sucking up all remaining dollars, and that vicious beating they took during the ID4 invasion of '96.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 10, 2015 08:30 AM (O7MnT)

315 310 3- setup a mechanism for 2/3rds of the states to nullify federal laws.

Within a week, three million leftists would die of stroke.

Faster, please
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at June 10, 2015 08:26 AM (o4QuK)


Levin had another one to nullify SCOTUS decisions. Bingo!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 10, 2015 08:30 AM (St6BJ)

316 That is what we are going to have sooner or later if we don't do something.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 10, 2015 08:29 AM (GpgJl)

I completely agree. I'm just saying that something can certainly be worse than what we have now.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:30 AM (fwARV)

317 May your day be extra-humpy.

Are we talking in a sexual way? Because then, in the words of John Francois Kerry (who, by the way, served in Vietnam), "would that it were."

And morning, 'rons and 'ronettes, thanks for the news, Vic.

I wanted to expand on this story a bit with some thoughts about power and ambition, but I'm very busy at the moment, so I'll drop it here and let you ponder it:

Marilyn Monroe readily admitted that she had, in her bid for stardom, "spent a lot of time on my knees," rationalizing that sexual favors were the coin of the realm in Hollywood, and that, if she weren't willing, there were plenty of other girls who were.

After some time, she did manage to wangle a letter of introduction to various Twentieth Century-Fox executives, and made the rounds of their offices, hoping for a part or a contract. But she noted that, in each case, after reading the letter, each exec had the same reaction: he would come around to the front of his desk, fly unbuttoned.

It was only later, Monroe recalled, that she learned the letter consisted of one sentence: "This girl loves to give head."

Hope you all have a wonderful day. See you later, perhaps.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 10, 2015 08:30 AM (zF6Iw)

318 Fuck off, Ira.

This is why you have no friends.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:30 AM (fwARV)

319 I'd argue that Americans killing each other on a scale relative to the Civil War would be worse.

Exponentially.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at June 10, 2015 08:26 AM (fwARV)


Wouldn't happen. Cindy McMansion and Trevor von Organic have no stomach for war. Doubly so if they themselves have to have a personal investment in it.


Posted by: Just some guy at June 10, 2015 08:30 AM (yxw0r)

320 Geez. Go fuck yourself, tool.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 10, 2015 08:31 AM (oVJmc)

321 Posted by: Article V at June 10, 2015 08:23 AM

I'll give Levin two out of three on this, though I still maintain that simply enforcing existing laws -- and never mind Choom Boy's decrees, which violate existing laws in most instances -- would do more than his "liberty" amendments.

I think the fuss over the 17th is mainly a battle of theories between purists and don't-give-a-shitters. Having easily corrupted (see CA, MA, and a boatload of others) state legislatures pick Senators is not better, IMO, than letting the rubes do it. In fact, the more direct involvement the public has with elected officials' fates, the better.

I would go for a streamlining of the removal-from-office process. Exempting anyone from being accountable for their acts is, in theory, sensible. Or it was in the 1700s, anyway.

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 10, 2015 08:33 AM (P8YHq)

322 >> I'd argue that Americans killing each other on a scale relative to the Civil War would be worse.

Absent the moral imperative of slavery to fuel such a conflict, can you really imagine a bunch of Brooklyn hipsters and Boston college students to sign up to fight and die in the hollers of Appalachia to keep West Virginia and the other red states in the Union?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 10, 2015 08:39 AM (O7MnT)

323 Now that I fixed one of the math problems in the ONT (with some help - thanks, GnuBreed) I'll proceed to fix the problem with our government. Here goes:

Forget about our "betters" and go after our peers who think they're our betters.

Presidents, senators, judges, etc., have designed a system that protects the whole class of designers. So leave them alone (for now). Go after the folks - the national park rangers, the Capitol Park Police, the IRS bureaucrats - who act criminally in the mistaken belief that they can wield power because they work for the government. Wait until our side is in charge, then prosecute the hell out of them.

If a Border Control officer followed orders to not control the border, then charge with with dereliction of duty.

If a DOJ lawyer follows orders to not pursue Black Panthers keeping people from voting, pin a civil rights charge on that lawyer.

Et cetera.

When the Ds are in control, the higher-ups with have destructive agenda items. The solution is to make the 2+ million civil servants so afraid to act unlawfully that they'll be deterred from it.

There's no fixing an Eric Holder, but there's hope when it comes to his underlings. Let those guys know that they may have a free hand today but the day of reckoning will come tomorrow.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 10, 2015 08:41 AM (PUS8s)

324 IMHO, since the direct election of senators, the Senate has come to act like a Parliament. The senators no longer represent states, they represent parties. Parties in turn represent vested interest groups.

We would be better off in a situation where senators served at the pleasure of state legislators, and not a bunch of fraudulent voters and party hacks.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 10, 2015 08:41 AM (O7MnT)

325 "In "the new normal" news:

A wax figure of Orange is the New Black
star Laverne Cox is set to be unveiled by Madame Tussauds, the first
time a transgender person has been made into a wax figure by the museum,
according to The San Jose Mercury News.

The figure will be
unveiled on June 26 during the San Francisco Pride press conference and
go on display at Madame Tussauds in Fisherman's Wharf."

More attacks, denigration and marginalization of transgenders. When will the madness end?!?!?!?!

Posted by: Hill! at June 10, 2015 08:46 AM (vg8iE)

326 Dump is up.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman found my saddle at June 10, 2015 08:47 AM (baCne)

327 With regards to the Reason.com story:

This should make us wake the fuck up. Since WHEN has internet comments been subject to prosecution?

Shit, they think THOSE comments are bad? They should hop on over to NPR and see whats being allowed to be said under tax payer dollars if we are going to go that route. But they won't because the media has less than zero integrity or morals. I've received emails from the fucking OFFICIAL Democrat Party newsletter claiming republicans are Nazis so.... yeah... ZERO integrity.

The bigger problem is however the people on the right who even mildly agree that the comments went over the top. For fucks sake STOP THIS. Why must there constantly be that stupid group of panty waists who find every opportunity they can to claim moral authority by slapping down people that use the fundamental values we have to vent about RIDICULOUS federal activity?

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at June 10, 2015 08:49 AM (MV2jA)

328
This is how Rome fell.
Posted by: blaster at June 10, 2015 07:29 AM (2Ocf1)


Rome fell because the state became a predator on the producers, and in defense the producers became part of the subsistence economy, self dependent, in self defense and the empire lost cohesion, economic and military power it needed to defend against invaders. The "citizens" no longer saw any difference between the invaders who came to destroy their livelyhood and steal their land, and the Roman state that was already doing it, so did not fight for a system they had no stake in.

Those of you that want Galt's Gulch should understand the risks, by the way.

http://tinyurl.com/k4q8bqf

Posted by: Kindltot at June 10, 2015 09:02 AM (3pRHP)

329 There is a state that does it non politically but they have a computer draw the lines I think, based on a set of parameters that makes sense..Ohio? Iowa? One of thoseish...
Posted by: Le-a is on a boat, MFers! at June 10, 2015 08:15 AM (vmMMi)

It's not Ohio. The Republicans really stuck it to the Democrats last time. The put Kucinich and Kaptur in the same district.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at June 10, 2015 09:08 AM (nRvEn)

330 The simple way for the first math problem is to picture the tube completely unrolled: a 12cm cylinder with a 4cm circumference turns into a 12cm by 4cm rectangle. The string makes exactly four turns around that circumference, so multiply it into a 12cm by 16cm rectangle. The string then travels from one corner to the opposite corner, leading to a right triangle, Pythagoras and sqrt(12*12 + 16*16) = 20.




Posted by: Dan Kojak at June 10, 2015 09:10 AM (zfjOq)

331 Imagine rolling the tube on a surface that is sticky only to the string. Roll the tube exactly 4 revolutions. The tube will travel 16cm. The tube is 12cm long.
The string has now become the hypotenuse of a triangle with legs of 16 and 12. The theorem of Pythagoras gives the length of the hypotenuse (string) as square root of (16^2 + 12^2) = 20.
The original exam probably had more than one question and takers of the exam probably had less than 12 hours to finish, but that's just a guess.

Posted by: Anominous at June 10, 2015 09:10 AM (uXaGz)

332 Amazing to me.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 10, 2015 08:03 AM (eytER)

It is an interesting piece - thank you.

I've been doing my own thinking about the bizarre amalgamation of stupidity and evil that is the left. My Unified theory of leftism is that it is the concretion of the most effective resistances to growing up.

Similar to the saving of an innocent life and the bringing of new life into the world, the maturation of a human soul is of great importance. There seem to be forces at work to prevent that from happening.

I like the use of the word "resistance" from the book "the War of Art" discussed a couple of times on the book thread here.

"Resistance" is a compass that always points to true north, the author says. What you have resistance to in your life is very often the very most compelling and important thing you could be doing.

The left is resistance to growing in morality and maturity.

Instead of being humbled by your own smallness in a big universe, the left says you are a special snowflake who cannot be allowed to feel bad about yourself.

Instead of facing your own sins and short comings, the left focuses you on hypothetical enemies to hate and whose sins are decried from morning to night: the bigot, the 1%, conservatives, Christians etc.

Instead of dealing with the great philosophical problems of pain, innocence, loss, uncertainty and danger, you look to a big daddy government who will, if only given enough or your power and wealth, protect you from every discomfort and danger.

Instead of accepting the daunting responsibility for your own freedom, the left will order your life for you, preventing you from making mistakes like failing to save for a rainy day.


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