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Open Thread: Patriot Act/USA Freedom Act Debate
It's been on since four, on CSPAN 2.
Comments
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Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 06:23 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at May 31, 2015 06:23 PM (pxMbm)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at May 31, 2015 06:23 PM (pxMbm)
Who's "Us"?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2015 06:25 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: HH at May 31, 2015 06:26 PM (Ce4DF)
Oh my bad. People who give a damn about the Fourth Amendment.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at May 31, 2015 06:26 PM (pxMbm)
It's going to be extended, of course. At the end of this show, the Republicans will be split with most R's agreeing with the totalitarian Democrats and talking shit about the few good R's in Congress.
I've seen this tv show a couple of dozen times already.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:26 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at May 31, 2015 06:26 PM (pxMbm)
Yeah I don't think it is that simple
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2015 06:27 PM (/tNwW)
Following, I tweeted, 'There shouldn't be a need for a US Senator to stand on the floor and beg people to consider liberty when legislating.'
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:27 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:27 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:28 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2015 06:29 PM (mGBKM)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:29 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2015 06:29 PM (mGBKM)
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2015 06:29 PM (mGBKM)
THAT is a whole other issue
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2015 06:30 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 06:30 PM (mmRvP)
This post woulda been 58% better if it had a pic of Sauron's Eyeball with it.
(or whomsoever's eyeball that was; I'm not a dork)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:30 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 06:31 PM (hdy+0)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anime-Mask-Kigurumi-/261897312202
Or just ignore it and watch the political monkeys on C-SPAN fling poo at each other.
Or better yet, tune out the world and enjoy Sunday.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 31, 2015 06:31 PM (byUbj)
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 06:31 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead on a new tablet at May 31, 2015 06:31 PM (gOixe)
And protecting the citizens is pretty high up there in the job description of government.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 06:31 PM (AC0lD)
Yeah, here we are, as usual, arguing shit that should never be up for argument.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:32 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 06:32 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2015 06:29 PM (mGBKM)
My problem is that I am doubting if ANY administration can be trusted to administer any program.
Posted by: RagamuffinB at May 31, 2015 06:32 PM (/J2kU)
Bullshit. These people were all comprised and neutered by government spy programs. Intentionally, with malice aforethought.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 31, 2015 06:33 PM (xQX/f)
Volume on Mute.
Thelonious Monk , 'Live at the It Club' going on the stereo.
Needs more Polish Butter Churning Lasses.
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 06:34 PM (mmRvP)
I have to wonder if Germany and other nations feel the same way we do right now. You know, with obama spying on them, too. We'd never hear about it here, though.
Our "news" is all about kerry's broken leg!!! and "wild" weather!!!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:34 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Old Hob at May 31, 2015 06:34 PM (NBhge)
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 06:35 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2015 06:29 PM (mGBKM)
Typical uninformed sheeple.
Undecided voters are the biggest idiots.
Posted by: Superflex at May 31, 2015 06:35 PM (JQ4M8)
Which channel? the fourth amendment?
You're lucky. I used to live in NJ, and we didn't get the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th.
Even the 1st only comes in fuzzy and with a lot of interference.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 31, 2015 06:35 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2015 06:35 PM (mGBKM)
You all remember Lois Lerner?
What other shit bags have access to this information?
Who's to say whatever comes after Barky won't be worse?
This beast needs it's head cut off!
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at May 31, 2015 06:35 PM (pxMbm)
Posted by: tbd at May 31, 2015 06:35 PM (2msJf)
If we have time, we can take turn gobbling Obama's knob.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at May 31, 2015 06:36 PM (JoIcn)
*ahem*
Don't have all the call data yet, but give me some time.....
Posted by: Obamacare Hub who connects federal dbs together at May 31, 2015 06:36 PM (UJir/)
Posted by: Kate58 at May 31, 2015 06:37 PM (oLZsm)
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 06:38 PM (mmRvP)
I know, right?
But it would save me the trouble of having to lug those heavy FBI files of my enemies into the private quarters....
Posted by: Hillary! at May 31, 2015 06:38 PM (UJir/)
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 06:38 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:39 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 06:39 PM (mmRvP)
****
Rand's impassioned speech was worth the time.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:40 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 06:40 PM (sj3Ax)
FIFY
Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2015 06:40 PM (2AlPN)
If he compromises, he's toast. He's drawn a line in the stand, let's see whether he's got the guts to carry through.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 06:40 PM (zRby/)
Posted by: Old Hob at May 31, 2015 06:40 PM (NBhge)
Posted by: Teh NSA at May 31, 2015 06:41 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: Tamarind Tsarnaev at May 31, 2015 06:41 PM (3F6F8)
Or, would you rather have a dollar for every adult diaper in the room?
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 06:41 PM (mmRvP)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at May 31, 2015 06:41 PM (pxMbm)
It is a welcome 55 degrees right now and falling. And rainy. Perfect weather, if you ask me.
I'm seriously half-seriously considering a move to a colder clime such as Cheyenne.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:41 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 06:42 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 06:43 PM (zRby/)
You know, so we can read and debate the bills.
Ha, I make the funny.
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 06:43 PM (MQEz6)
Isn't is funny how obama's Taliban 5 pals are set to roam free exactly when Patriot Act is set to expire.
Coincidence? Nah.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:43 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:44 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 06:44 PM (sj3Ax)
***
One of the greatest disappointments of late has come from listening to Sessions speak so naively, last week, about how we have nothing to fear from NSA spying.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:45 PM (PMlgt)
Why are we even having this debate?
Who really believes we're safer because of it?
Do you also think the DHS has kept us free from hijacking?
Are you high?
Believe in unicorns?
Easter Bunny?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 06:45 PM (zRby/)
***
I wonder what kind of reaction he got to his speech last week.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:46 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:46 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Old Hob at May 31, 2015 06:46 PM (NBhge)
But I get stuck on the fact that if there are any abuses of the powers in the act, or crimes committed under the color of the act, the only way we would know about said abuses and crimes is if some whistle blower breaks the law and pulls a Snowden.
Some how I don't think that's what he founders had in mind.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2015 06:46 PM (uctT+)
This is nothing but Let's Do Something ROTTEN And Force The American Conservatives To Argue With Us About It Part MCMVII.
This is all we do these days..
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:46 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: kartoffel at May 31, 2015 06:46 PM (fVxXv)
unconstitutional on all fronts! But we know they will not do what's right,,,aarrggh!
Posted by: geezer der mensch at May 31, 2015 06:47 PM (DE31Y)
2. Has not stopped a single attack.
3. Can be used in kangaroo courts.
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
P.S. Remember when the democrats were pissing their pants about library book check outs? Good times, good times.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 31, 2015 06:47 PM (TV9BR)
Posted by: JD at May 31, 2015 06:47 PM (TzeLs)
I missed Sessions speech. What did he say?
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 06:47 PM (sj3Ax)
Now, are there any firearms in your home? Do you have more than a week's supply of food? Do you recycle? What do you think about gay marriage?
Posted by: Smiley Clipboard McKhakis at May 31, 2015 06:48 PM (1omct)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:44 PM (NLm3u)
There's at least one in Nova Scotia.
Posted by: Sam Losco at May 31, 2015 06:48 PM (7P0BI)
***
The whole no-shred-of-evidence that anything untoward has been happening in the NSA spy program. He sounded incredibly naive. Very un-Sessions like.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:48 PM (PMlgt)
And since we're on the subject of Old People Food...
You know how you know you're old?
When you go out early on a Saturday morning and come back to the house with a box of Hermits.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:49 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 06:49 PM (zRby/)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 31, 2015 06:49 PM (oVJmc)
***
The vote is on limiting debate.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:50 PM (PMlgt)
Bet that's what's being said behind the scenes to get votes: "Come on, you don't want to be THAT guy who blocks this and then there's a terrorist attack....Just consider the consequences of your vote, because we will be sure to point out your vote to the media when it happens..."
Never mind that it will be one or more of the administration's dumb moves that causes the next, inevitable attack - ignoring intel from Russia, letting a terrorist slip in across our Southern border, pressuring local authorities into not "discriminating" certain sectors of the population, etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 06:50 PM (UJir/)
74
And since we're on the subject of Old People Food...
You know how you know you're old?
When you go out early on a Saturday morning and come back to the house with a box of Hermits.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:49 PM (NLm3u)
Yeah, baby!
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 06:50 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell
Come on Mitch, you know there is always time for a knob gobble.
*hic*
Posted by: John Boehner at May 31, 2015 06:50 PM (sQzB6)
My name AND face are on the bulletin board at the NSA.
They're just waiting until the right moment to . .
Wait there's someone at the door.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 06:51 PM (zRby/)
You know what's amazing? The length of time, (decades I gather), that the Democrats have been sitting on Hastert's perverted disgraced.
But of course it was obama to finally pull the cord. I mean, who else and why not.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:51 PM (NLm3u)
Thank you. That's not like him. He's usually fighting for us.
Who posted about "accidents?"
I'm sorry I switched browsers & lost my place.
Another accident of NSA I believe was CJ Roberts on TFGCare!
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 06:52 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Tina in shipping with a baritone voice at May 31, 2015 06:53 PM (Q819Q)
My childhood memories of visiting the grandparents includes some candy Grandma would always have in a dish, individually wrapped in foil made to look like a strawberry, and strawberry flavored with gel or cream in the center. I don't even know what they're called or if they're made anymore.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 06:53 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 06:53 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:54 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 06:55 PM (kdS6q)
87
Hermits are like brownies for old people. Mostly a bitter ginger flavor, I recall.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:54 PM (NLm3u)
So..good...so...soft..
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 06:55 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 06:56 PM (mmRvP)
Posted by: Tina in shipping with a baritone voice at May 31, 2015 06:56 PM (Q819Q)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 06:56 PM (hdy+0)
Also, over at HotAir, "Hands" is having a sads:
Rand Paul along with...an army of strident, Big L Libertarians who are ready to Stand With Rand, or whatever the bumper sticker of the week reads.
hotair.com/archives/2015/05/31/open-thread-funeral-for-the-patriot-act
and so on. Guess Rand and Jazz won't be sharing a cabin on the next HA Cruise.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 06:56 PM (kdS6q)
Oh, so THIS is the Hill to Die on?
I'm at the point where I feel that we have already died a thousand deaths.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 06:57 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Tina in shipping with a baritone voice at May 31, 2015 06:57 PM (Q819Q)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:57 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 06:58 PM (UJir/)
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 06:58 PM (MQEz6)
candy Grandma would always have in a dish, individually wrapped in foil made to look like a strawberry, and strawberry flavored with gel or cream in the center.
Posted by: logprof
Ah, the things that always sifted down into the green plastic grass of a cheese and sausage gift box.
Pretty nasty.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 06:59 PM (kdS6q)
***
Didn't it already catch fire, or something nutty? It seems I heard about it a while back. Could be wrong.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 06:59 PM (PMlgt)
They will set up a warrant factory and keep things going.
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 06:59 PM (MQEz6)
Remember back on (insert date of criminal act caught on tape here) when you and (insert victim's name here) were seen (insert link to youtube video here) at the (insert crime scene photos here)?
Be a shame if your (insert Federal employee rank here) salary and (insert Pension code here) retirement was to disappear.
And just think of how your (insert family photo here) and (insert friends pictures here) would react if they knew you were a practicing (insert proscribed activity participation name here).
we here at the (insert Spy Agency acronym here) wish you a happy (insert target's age)th birthday. Hope you have many more.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 07:01 PM (zRby/)
Posted by: jmel at May 31, 2015 07:01 PM (lW6Fb)
*pushes several rounds of Shiners and tequila shots through the usb port*
Posted by: stace at May 31, 2015 07:01 PM (yCkeu)
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 07:01 PM (mmRvP)
Posted by: The NSA at May 31, 2015 07:01 PM (hdy+0)
What bothers me is that -- I'm just guessing here -- major corporations are already in league with obama's NSA data sharing.
It's the Fascism that concerns me right now.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:01 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 07:01 PM (kdS6q)
****
He'd have to wear a mask to breathe through all the Axe fumes.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 07:03 PM (PMlgt)
Which is why Rand was mostly right to call out his own party for creating this mess.
Sooner or later conservatives will figure out that Rand was also right to call out his own party for supporting "the Syrian opposition", thereby helping to install a caliphate in Raqqa.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 07:03 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Roman Polanski at May 31, 2015 07:03 PM (mmRvP)
109 You know he loves that show.
****
He'd have to wear a mask to breathe through all the Axe fumes.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 07:03 PM (PMlgt)
No like that show.
Totally insists on itself.
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 07:03 PM (MQEz6)
Here's another grim thought while we're on the subject.
Even after obama leaves, it will still be obama's FBI and obama's CIA, etc. for a long time to come.
All the govt agencies are rotten.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:04 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: kartoffel at May 31, 2015 07:04 PM (fVxXv)
obama's courts..
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:04 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 07:05 PM (MQEz6)
With you and your elected representatives as the recipients.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 31, 2015 07:05 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 07:05 PM (hdy+0)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 07:06 PM (zRby/)
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 31, 2015 07:06 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 07:06 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 07:06 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 31, 2015 07:06 PM (kReud)
Posted by: John McCain, Card Carring Maverick at May 31, 2015 07:06 PM (TV9BR)
Posted by: skip at May 31, 2015 07:06 PM (Gncxj)
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 07:07 PM (mmRvP)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 07:08 PM (zRby/)
On 9-11 you say "Hey, I bet that guy we have in jail was one of them."
Thanks, Team Clinton.
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 07:09 PM (MQEz6)
Where does Cruz stand on this??
Posted by: jmel
"Cruz supports the USA Freedom Act, but has argued against allowing the expiring Patriot Act provisions to expire."
www.cnn.com/2015/05/31/politics/patriot-act-senate-showdown-nsa/
Of couse, that's assuming the LCF showed up to vote.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 07:11 PM (kdS6q)
Al-Jazeera is having a sad that this is an "atrocity": http://tinyurl.com/qbkgnka
But hey, Qatar and al-Jazeera are totes against the Daesh
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 07:12 PM (AVEe1)
They would never vote for term limits. Why kill a great job & it is just an act!
BS to try to make them think they're representing us. They're voting to please donors!
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 07:12 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 07:09 PM (MQEz6)
Which the media managed to make it look like Bush's WH was the only one's at fault and who's presidency was then preoccupied with all the various stuff that Billy boy ignored for 8 years.
And yet even we Republicans still blame Bush.
Knowing what we know.
Propaganda is an amazing tool.
It works even when you know it's there.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 07:14 PM (zRby/)
btw, I have a feeling they're gonna send out joke biden in the near future to use his son's death to defend obamacare and say if it was passed sooner his son would still be alive.
This is how they Do.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:16 PM (NLm3u)
and even if we did put in term limits, they'd find ways to either work around it or still stay relevant in DC and still find a way to mooch off the taxpayer.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 31, 2015 07:16 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 07:16 PM (7P0BI)
And the rest of the usual gang of idiots:
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said on CBS's "Face the Nation" that ending the program Paul has targeted would put the nation's security in danger.
Former New York Gov. George Pataki took the most direct shot at Paul, saying he is "simply putting Americans at risk for a political reason. I think it's wrong and I think it's unfortunate."
Ben Carson said on ABC's "This Week" that he doesn't support Paul, though he did express some reservations about the NSA's phone data program.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie hit Paul last week as he slammed what he called "misguided ideologues who have no real world experience in fighting terrorism."
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who has announced he is running in 2016, has also defended the National Security Agency's role in collecting phone records.
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker told Fox News last week that he disagrees with Paul.
www.cnn.com/2015/05/31/politics/republican-2016-candidates-nsa/
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 07:16 PM (kdS6q)
The NSA runs a billion calls a week through a program (that some schtup at Verizon has anyway), hunting for connections between Dearborn, and a falafel stand in Cairo, and it's link to cell tower in Peshawar.
Then a drone watches near the tower, and later Haji gets a Hellfire in the ass.
I'm not feeling a 4th amendment-denial-stiffie over this.
I'd rather have rectal warts than trust this administration, but I'm not concerned about supercomputers sorting phone calls.
Denounce me at will.
Posted by: retropox at May 31, 2015 07:16 PM (J3zBG)
Posted by: DaveA at May 31, 2015 07:16 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Harry Reid, still recovering from multiple surgeries from 'work out injuries' at May 31, 2015 07:17 PM (AkOaV)
And yet even we Republicans still blame Bush.
Knowing what we know.
Propaganda is an amazing tool.
It works even when you know it's there.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 31, 2015 07:14 PM (zRby/)
So getting Mickey Mouse to cancel releasing The Path to 9/11 on home video worked?
Sweet action!
Posted by: Hitlery! at May 31, 2015 07:18 PM (7P0BI)
Thank you.
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 07:18 PM (sj3Ax)
Of folks who complain
They'll kick in your door and bash out your brain
Safety Clause is coming, to town
Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 31, 2015 07:20 PM (hCdMd)
I fear my Canadian government only slightly less. We have a gentler system, with human rights tribunals and lesser bureaucracies that can and will still tut-tut anyone that strays too far.
Neither government has any intention of stating the truth about Islam and protecting me from it and them.
Both governments are thrilled to take about 50% of my income for the rest of my life to support the politicians and the bureaucrats.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 07:20 PM (AC0lD)
I don't want to have to decide if I'm concerned or not. They present a greater threat to me than Haji does, so I'm interested in denying them as much power as possible.
Posted by: kartoffel at May 31, 2015 07:20 PM (fVxXv)
But...What else are they monitoring???
I get it.
But I still like sieving the sand on the beach for Islamist connections.
Proceed with your denunciations of my position.
Posted by: retropox at May 31, 2015 07:21 PM (J3zBG)
Posted by: retropox at May 31, 2015 07:16 PM (J3zBG)
--It's not the scenario you describe we object to so much. It's the spying on American citizens communicating with other American citizens, on American soil.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 07:21 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 07:21 PM (AC0lD)
But I still like sieving the sand on the beach for Islamist connections.
What makes you so sure obama is even doing that?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:23 PM (NLm3u)
Here's why I am not thrilled with the capabilities it provides, should someone in government wish to abuse the data in their possession:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lr5bvzf
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 07:23 PM (UJir/)
Veterans and "Constitutionalists" are the domestic threat.
Islam was not mentioned...period
Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 31, 2015 07:23 PM (hCdMd)
Posted by: Doug MacKenzie at May 31, 2015 07:23 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 07:23 PM (kdS6q)
Except, that's not whats happening.
They're intercepting and storing all domestic communications.
If a guy in Dearborn calls the middle east for nefarious purposes, he's not using his Verizon cell phone registered to his name.
He's using a burner phone, or an internet phone, or any number of secure means of communications that exist on the internet.
How does saving 10 years of Joe Blows text messages to his wife help "fight terrorism"?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 31, 2015 07:24 PM (AkOaV)
The above comparison of the NSA's program to the TSA is apt.
We all know who the terrorists are 99.99% likely to be, so why the comprehensive all-encompassing surveillance??
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:24 PM (NLm3u)
The subjects generally being: (1) equality of health care access; and (2) parental priorities.
Our host recently explained the importance and value of treating these vile beasts in exactly the same way they treat others. See, Ace post, May 28, 2015 319 pm.
Be reminded that Joe Biden's friends and supporters were rather cruel about Sarah Palin's personal anguish -- a Downs baby and a teen pregnancy.
Posted by: Blackthorn at May 31, 2015 07:24 PM (uSM1W)
Posted by: John McCain
Yes, I agree. Our betters in the Federal Government won't abuse their positions.
"Because they have training."*
*Yes, I actually said that.
Posted by: Huge Hewitt at May 31, 2015 07:24 PM (uctT+)
Yes they would. Corrupt liars.
Jindal was on Boston radio show Howie Carr Thursday or Friday. He made the case against the DC elites & I agree with everything he said.
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 07:26 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Roger Goodell at May 31, 2015 07:26 PM (7P0BI)
The feds say that they need to continue with this unprecedented level of surveillance, in order to obtain solid intelligence which will allow them to protect the citizenry from jihadi terror attacks.
Except we have already seen case after case where the feds had absolutely rock solid intelligence available to them, where they then did absolutely nothing about it because of political correctness and tiptoeing around Muslim sensibilities, and a jihadi murder outrage then followed.
So why give them these sweeping capabilities if the capabilities are not going to be used to address the threat?
Posted by: torquewrench at May 31, 2015 07:26 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Roger Goodell at May 31, 2015 07:27 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 07:27 PM (7P0BI)
"Because they have training."*
They went to snoop school.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 31, 2015 07:28 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 07:29 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2015 07:29 PM (rZiQq)
Posted by: Harly Kruptbender at May 31, 2015 07:31 PM (gBogr)
Ouch.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 31, 2015 07:31 PM (byUbj)
How does saving 10 years of Joe Blows text messages to his wife help "fight terrorism"?
a] Burner phones don't matter is he's traveling in the same places regularly (location meta data) and he's calling the same numbers. They can ID him by his behavior pretty quickly.
b] Not about look at Joe Blow, the individual.
It's about what orgs exist (which Joe Blow may be part of), who are the key nodes/people w/in those orgs, and simply disrupting the key members of the group to neuter it. I imagine that's what the IRS audit were about: finding key Tea Party groups that posed a threat to his re-election and neutralizing them.
See a better explanation in the article I linked in #149.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 07:31 PM (UJir/)
Not surprising, given that AtC would these days advise feeding 80% of Congress to giant spiders...
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 07:31 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Julie Capulet at May 31, 2015 07:32 PM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 07:32 PM (4oSc7)
obama is releasing Taliban, why on earth would you think he's using NSA surveillance to stop attacks here??
btw, obama WILL close Gitmo soon. It's gonna happen.
But yeah, let's allow his NSA to continue domestic spying because it might prevent terrorism. My ass.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:32 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:33 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 31, 2015 07:33 PM (byUbj)
Wait til they mistakenly put you disOrganizing Fucking up America's call til they're deaf list.
Some NatReview McCarthy? splained it's not a 4th amendment violation but Big Data IS problematic.
Posted by: DaveA at May 31, 2015 07:33 PM (DL2i+)
The feds say that they need to continue with this unprecedented level of surveillance, in order to obtain solid intelligence which will allow them to protect the citizenry from jihadi terror attacks.
Posted by: torquewrench
Renewing for another 4 years an act that vastly expanded government power without meaningful oversight, hastily cobbled together as a series of amendments to existing laws, passed in the midst of a terrorist attack by a quivering terrified Congress, that will take the law to damned near two decades of the initial act, sounds like a great idea.
It's like the Congress of 1960 declaring war on Japan again. Just to be safe.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 07:34 PM (kdS6q)
I am a voice-in-the- academic-desert Reagan Conservative, gun owning, 2nd Amendment absolutist, tobacco chewing, Chaucer reading, AoSHQ agreeing 99% of the time, college professor, 'moron"....with a daughter who flies SpecOps missions against bad men in sandy places.
who respectfully disagrees with the consensus today, and values the opinions of the other morons here. and greatly enjoys your contributions, BTW.
Posted by: retropox at May 31, 2015 07:34 PM (J3zBG)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 07:34 PM (4oSc7)
Recall that James Clapper lied to Congress about the very existence of this phone sweeping program (and note, still free as a bird and in a position of power). He even admitted he lied.
And now Congress wants to continue the very same program.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 31, 2015 07:34 PM (CUfQt)
Yeah, the Left was all against government agencies intruding into people's private lives. That is, until they controlled those same agencies.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:35 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 31, 2015 07:35 PM (byUbj)
Rand says he will stop it, we will see.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2015 07:36 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: new Senate musical rules at May 31, 2015 07:36 PM (J10Dc)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 07:36 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Nidal Hasan at May 31, 2015 07:37 PM (7P0BI)
Then get a freaking search warrant.
It's not complicated.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 07:37 PM (sdi6R)
network chart) of who is talking to whom. It is able to say what are the
key nodes through which any business passes, find all its Internet "friends" and interlocutors and potentially drill down into the comms
themselves --- in time series.This would pick up every organization of significance, whatever its
purpose....
The fact that you belong to a large group, for example the 50% of the
US population that is conservative or Republican, does not give you
safety in numbers. Within this large group of millions are a much
smaller number of key leadership nodes. They are the nodes that matter,
the top of the hierarchy mandated by Dunbar's Number.
If you can control, corrupt or even bait those nodes you can reduce
the entire group to impotence. You can effectively decapitate it, a
strategy applied not only to al-Qaeda but apparently also by the IRS in
its hunt of Tea Party and Republican fundraising groups. The virtual
world lets you dominate the virtual high ground. You don't have to
clobber all Muslims and Republicans. You just have to clobber the key
nodes and the rest will mill around like leaderless ants."
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 07:38 PM (UJir/)
Posted by: Harly Kruptbender at May 31, 2015 07:38 PM (gBogr)
Well, the Patriot Act worked for me.
Posted by: Nidal Hasan
Nah nah! Missed me!
Posted by: The Homosexual Pedophile Speaker of the House - #3 in the Line of Succession
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 07:39 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 07:39 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 07:41 PM (zOTsN)
nodes and the rest will mill around like leaderless ants."
But enough about the GOPe.
Posted by: DaveA at May 31, 2015 07:41 PM (DL2i+)
Incidentally, the new season of The Last Ship on June 21, in 3 weeks. I did not know it was based on a 1988 novel. Anyone read it?
And Falling Skies will finally end beginning on June 28th.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:41 PM (NLm3u)
nodes and the rest will mill around like leaderless ants."
But enough about the GOPe.
Well, it does kinda resonate when you think about the impact of the loss of Breitbart.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 07:42 PM (UJir/)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at May 31, 2015 07:43 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Nidal Hasan at May 31, 2015 07:43 PM (7P0BI)
There I said it, now if you can keep the Mustaffa's of this planet from trying to do sex to me we might win this
Posted by: The Goat at May 31, 2015 07:43 PM (D0Tns)
Well, it does kinda resonate when you think about the impact of the loss of Breitbart.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 07:42 PM (UJir/)
I remember that Belmont Club post, Lizzy. Very sobering.
Link again for those who missed it:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lr5bvzf
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 07:45 PM (sdi6R)
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner. See, it wasn't that the British Army was evil in the American Revolution, it was that they worked for somebody else. Just like Obama.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 31, 2015 07:45 PM (c41Rr)
Posted by: zombie t kennedy at May 31, 2015 07:45 PM (paJcx)
I predict the spying on US citizens will continue unabated.
Rand says he will stop it, we will see.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2015 07:36 PM (ODxAs)
Stopping any sort of government program should move someone to the top of the Presidential contenders lists eh?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 07:45 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Harly Kruptbender at May 31, 2015 07:31 PM (gBogr)
In the 70's the the lefties were taking foreign money to commit treason, and they saw the role of the CIA was to catch them.Today the lefties are taking foreign money to commit treason and they feel the CIA is there to protect them.Evidence? No, no evidence.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 07:46 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: The Goat at May 31, 2015 07:46 PM (D0Tns)
Posted by: zombie t kennedy at May 31, 2015 07:45 PM (paJcx)
Your sister had both, prick.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 07:46 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 07:47 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 07:47 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 07:47 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2015 07:47 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 07:48 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 07:49 PM (sj3Ax)
very existence of this phone sweeping program (and note, still free as a
bird and in a position of power). He even admitted he lied.
And now Congress wants to continue the very same program.
Posted by: GnuBreed
So yeah, they are all lying to us. Is this "Debate" all for show? Now that they are tied into all the telecoms, and the computers are all programmed and rolling, do we think they will......stop?
Amazing, in retrospect, how many thought the Internet and the digital age would enhance freedom. Amazing how so many people want to share intimate details of their personal lives on easily accessible data bases, like Facebook.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at May 31, 2015 07:49 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 07:49 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 07:49 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 31, 2015 07:49 PM (byUbj)
What's that? Gaping hole in the southern border?....meh.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at May 31, 2015 07:49 PM (JoIcn)
***
It's not going to be stopped, but it isn't for a lack of effort, or passion, on Rand's part.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 07:49 PM (PMlgt)
Anyone watch the Texas show on History channel?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:50 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2015 07:50 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Senor Juan McCain at May 31, 2015 07:50 PM (Dwehj)
http://tinyurl.com/o75sajy
****
I was watching it live. Immediately tweeted out what a dick he is.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 07:50 PM (PMlgt)
did not know it was based on a 1988 novel. Anyone read it?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:41 PM (NLm3u)
I didn't read the novel but gave the series a fair try despite the comment from one female officer in the very first episode mentioning her girlfriend or wife.
I gave up shortly after the guy they rescued said they freed the terrorists from Gitmo because all society had gone to hell and surely these prisoners would no longer want to do anyone harm.
I can't wait for ZNation, season 2 to start though. That was a fun series.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 07:51 PM (AC0lD)
I remember when they were initially debating the Patriot Act after 9/11 and the Dems and Lefties were in a tizzy over the thought of the feds accessing their freakin' library card history.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 07:51 PM (UJir/)
Sam Houston gorging himself on yoghourt was more than I could bear.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2015 07:51 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:50 PM (NLm3u)
--I did. It was pretty good. I'll definitely watch tomorrow.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 07:51 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 07:51 PM (zOTsN)
John has a long mustache.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2015 07:52 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 07:52 PM (4oSc7)
I'm just watching to see if McCain loses his shit
Posted by: Thunderb
It's irrelevant. The old crazy coot will get re-elected in 2016. Arizona, like many other places, is full of stupid people that vote.I heard him lose his shit on Michael Reagan's radio show (live) in 2000, yet, her he is. Maverick, or whatever bullshit he calls himself these days.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at May 31, 2015 07:52 PM (+1T7c)
despite the comment from one female officer in the very first episode mentioning her girlfriend or wife.
Yeah, there must be some quota now for every tv show include a sexual pervert.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:52 PM (NLm3u)
I know Rand means it, but the DC GOP will get enough dems to pass it.
I must credit Hrothgar with term of derision for DC GOP.
We were trying to think of a new name for them & he came up with it.
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 07:53 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2015 07:53 PM (rwI+c)
If the Patriot Act were downgraded, I wouldn't put it past this
administration to deliberately allow an attack, then blame Rs. They know
the media would back them.
After their handling of the Boston Bombing warnings, how would we know the difference?
Has anybody pointed out ONE SINGLE terrorist act all this surveillance has prevented?
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 31, 2015 07:53 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:53 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 07:54 PM (zOTsN)
Practically my first reaction after 9/11 was: Rather than focusing on Muslims, the government will end up treating each and every American citizen as a potential terrorist.
Why? Because concentrating on Muslims would be "discrimination". Even in 2001, the PC culture was so far advanced that nothing was worse than discrimination.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 07:54 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 07:54 PM (7P0BI)
I'm hooked on those GoPro Syrian tank battles in Jobar. It looks like the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, or the battle for Berlin in '45.
I can't figure out the tactics of it though. The tanks go in and expend a metric shit ton of ordnance, and has been for over a year now. The insurgents don't have heavy weapons to counter the armor, which would make it a logistics war, and the only way the insurgents can counter the Syrian government's logistics advantage would be to wage war on economic targets to destroy the economy that supports the army's logistics base.
Need some commentary from veterans with urban warfare experience.
Posted by: Harly Kruptbender at May 31, 2015 07:55 PM (gBogr)
No wonder why Dumb People today think perverts are 30% of the population -- they see it on the TV.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:55 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 07:55 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: freaked
If we don't stop spying on every American, the terrorists will have won.
Wait, wut?
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at May 31, 2015 07:55 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Alf at May 31, 2015 07:56 PM (JdEZJ)
Liberty, Hatfields and McCoys) have been well done and well acted.
And Vikings.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 07:56 PM (UJir/)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 07:56 PM (zOTsN)
======
yay
now end this fking travesty of a law
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 31, 2015 07:56 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2015 07:56 PM (rwI+c)
But the people paying attention see 100% perverts in congress.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at May 31, 2015 07:57 PM (zauWW)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 07:57 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: Children of the Corn at May 31, 2015 07:57 PM (Dwehj)
.....that, and I was jealous of their magnificent vaginas.
Posted by: Bruce Jenner at May 31, 2015 07:57 PM (JoIcn)
Posted by: LadyS at May 31, 2015 07:58 PM (xYNhJ)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 07:58 PM (7P0BI)
Still have the 10th episode of The Vikings awaiting for my viewing pleasure, but it was another great season, while Game Of Thrones continues to trudge along.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:59 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 07:59 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: your Roomba & Nest at May 31, 2015 08:00 PM (uctT+)
/====
latest Belmont Club sez its because its a line of sight war. infantry is acting as forward spotters for tanks, tanks blow the crap out of sniper nests etc
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 31, 2015 08:00 PM (Cq0oW)
Just guessing, but Stanos will be next to die and Jon Snow will somehow inherit his army and fleet. Or at least keep Stanos' ships.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:00 PM (NLm3u)
Over 500 showed up last night.
Saturday Rand Paul will be in Peabody for an event, but it's at least $25 to attend.
Pols never come here. Dems take this state for granted & republicans don't waste their time.
I didn't know we had over 500 Conservative Republicans in Massachusetts.
Later!
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 08:00 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at May 31, 2015 08:01 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 08:01 PM (4oSc7)
Let me guess. He was a crossdresser. No? How about a cabin boy. The early years.
Posted by: Alf at May 31, 2015 08:02 PM (JdEZJ)
I didn't know we had over 500 Conservative Republicans in Massachusetts.
Posted by: Carol
That's SEVERELY Conservative Republicans.
*snifffff*
Posted by: Mitt Romney
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 08:03 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: your internet LCD & refrig at May 31, 2015 08:03 PM (uctT+)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 31, 2015 08:03 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 07:56 PM (UJir/)
--I like Vikings as well, but I was just listing miniseries. I'd never leave Viking off a list of fave original programming on cable.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:04 PM (7P0BI)
and Vikings indeed.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
Protip: the Blu-rays have more skin and gore. As do the European broadcasts of the episodes.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 08:04 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 08:01 PM
Search youtube for 'gopro syrian tank' or 'syrian rebel tow missile compilation' will get you started.
and it demonstrates the advantage of air power, air superiority, and arty, and why WWII cities were reduced to piles of rubble.
Posted by: Harly Kruptbender at May 31, 2015 08:04 PM (gBogr)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:04 PM (zOTsN)
Why do people get dogs only to leave them barking outside all day and night?
My neighbor has two dogs. One is pretty quiet and doesn't do much, but the other growls and snarls and barks at me every time I take my dog out, and he runs up against the fence as well.
I have no doubt that if that dog gets through the fence, he'd immediately attack me.
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 08:04 PM (kzA81)
Posted by: JD at May 31, 2015 08:04 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: Linux Toaster at May 31, 2015 08:05 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:05 PM (NLm3u)
Conditioning.
Yep, The gospel of Post Modernism MUST be preached to the masses by all means available. The rubes must CONFORM!! or else. We haven't quite reached the "or else" stage but its coming.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at May 31, 2015 08:05 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 07:59 PM (NLm3u)
--The siege of Paris was one of the best battle sequences I've ever seen on something made for TV.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:06 PM (7P0BI)
It's incredibly stupid with multiple we did this impossible or ridiculous thing every show just so we could show this scene, OTOH Rhona Mitra!
Posted by: DaveA at May 31, 2015 08:06 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:07 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:07 PM (zOTsN)
Pretty sure
at least some of the insurgent groups have been using RPG-29s. I know
they had them in Iraq so they should still be floating around. Of course
those export model T-72s only have 400-500mm RHA at the front so it
doesn't take a lot to kill one. If they can separate the tanks from the
infantry screen they have a serious advantage in an urban environment.
Posted by: kartoffel at May 31, 2015 08:08 PM (fVxXv)
I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worse.
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 08:08 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 31, 2015 08:09 PM (2XMpf)
to the masses by all means available. The rubes must CONFORM!! or else.
We haven't quite reached the "or else" stage but its coming.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work
For fun, we always read Chinese fortune cookie sayings, by ending with "in bed".
Now try doing this, by ending the fortune cookie reading with ....."or else".
It's the New World Order, baby.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at May 31, 2015 08:09 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 08:10 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: New thermostat connected to the SmartGrid at May 31, 2015 08:11 PM (JoIcn)
I kinda like how the Vikings don't do the graphic sex scenes like every other show today.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:12 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Edna Mode at May 31, 2015 08:12 PM (+1T7c)
On the other hand...Logatha.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:12 PM (NLm3u)
And I think the JEF would allow an attack, purposefully.
And I am not a Rand paul fan
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:12 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 31, 2015 08:13 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 08:13 PM (zNLls)
I'm halfway through it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:05 PM (NLm3u)
--No, didn't have History back then. I'd watch it if they re-air iy, though.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:13 PM (7P0BI)
So far, all the dramatic miniseries on History I've watched (Sons of
Liberty, Hatfields and McCoys) have been well done and well acted.
The BBC does a lot of those historical dramas. A recent one that was excellent was 37 Days, on the political maneuvering just before the outbreak of WWI.
www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/mediapacks/ww1/drama
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 08:13 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 08:13 PM (4oSc7)
Hi!
I had to dig up a lot of dead roses & some came out with one hand. One climber died & I chopped off canes but have to dig up roots.
Other climbers are near it & I had to cut back to ankle level, I don't know if they'll bloom this year but they are recovering.
I was just leaving. I have to do some things.
I hope you've been good!
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 08:14 PM (sj3Ax)
I kinda like how the Vikings don't do the graphic sex scenes like every other show today.
Posted by: Soothsayer
Again -- Blu-rays.
Giggity.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 08:14 PM (kdS6q)
Discovery Channel did the Klondike miniseries. It stars Robb Stark.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:15 PM (NLm3u)
Our government has reached flood proportions, but every bureaucrat is just "doing his job."
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 31, 2015 08:15 PM (kReud)
Posted by: LadyS at May 31, 2015 08:15 PM (xYNhJ)
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 08:15 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 08:10 PM (4oSc7)
--For the on-air version. Don't know about the DVDs.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:15 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 08:15 PM (zNLls)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:16 PM (zOTsN)
uh oh, Michael Ian Black (a comedian?) just called me out publicly for calling Robert Reich the DNC's midget poster boy.
Posted by: JD at May 31, 2015 08:04 PM (TzeLs)
I think he was on some VH1 shows that talked about 1980's pop culture.
Tell him there was actually someone on the internet that vaguely remembers him and is pleasantly surprised he's still alive.
After their shows end, I kind of expect comedians to be found cooked in a running hot tub by freaked out neighbors after they pickle themselves with booze and / or accidentally overdose.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 08:16 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 31, 2015 08:16 PM (2XMpf)
Saturday Rand Paul will be in Peabody for an event, but it's at least $25 to attend.
Pols never come here. Dems take this state for granted & republicans don't waste their time.
Posted by: Carol at May 31, 2015 08:00 PM (sj3Ax)
Interesting. I said in Saturday morning's politics thread that I think Paul is making a play for voters who don't normally vote Republican. This is more evidence for that.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=357002
See my #205 and 215.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 08:17 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Fritz at May 31, 2015 08:17 PM (ty633)
Outlander is lady porn basically.
I noticed that too. It's like a Lady Chatterly meets Fifty Shades of Scotland.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:17 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 31, 2015 08:17 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: LadyS at May 31, 2015 08:18 PM (xYNhJ)
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at May 31, 2015 08:18 PM (syGA0)
Now I'm off to Wally World for the weapons-grade Blu Rays.
Thx for the pro-tip.
Posted by: retropox at May 31, 2015 08:18 PM (J3zBG)
Posted by: Your "thermostat" what's been here for years. at May 31, 2015 08:19 PM (c41Rr)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:19 PM (zOTsN)
That's definitely the plan. I just hope that fence is strong.
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 08:20 PM (kzA81)
On the other hand...Logatha.
Posted by: Soothsayer
Judith* > Logatha
*The gal Athelstan was cuckolding with.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 08:21 PM (kdS6q)
So its a TV show for True Blood's audience then?
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at May 31, 2015 08:21 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 08:15 PM (zNLls)
--Don't contract space herpes!
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:22 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 31, 2015 08:22 PM (Cq0oW)
Things have been going okay here, more or less. Summer school starts tomorrow so I have been getting ready for that.
How is your brother doing?
Posted by: chemjeff at May 31, 2015 08:22 PM (2XMpf)
That is all.
Posted by: Linux Toaster at May 31, 2015 08:22 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2015 08:23 PM (mGBKM)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:23 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:23 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Linux Toaster at May 31, 2015 08:25 PM (JdEZJ)
Ice Pirates or Hell Comes To Frogtown?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:25 PM (NLm3u)
I'll have to keep an eye out for 37 Days.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work
www.dailymotion.com has Episode 1 if you want to take a gander.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 08:26 PM (kdS6q)
And completely took over the civil service from the WW2-era old-timers as they retired and died.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 08:27 PM (kivUY)
300 I think he was one of the Kids in the Hall.
Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2015 08:23 PM (mGBKM)
Good to know. As a Canadian, outside of 'Corner Gas', there's very little I know about my 'culture.' - which in itself is very Canadian.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 08:28 PM (AC0lD)
My love for Adam Baldwin knows no bounds but I watched the first episode and though it was pretty hackneyed.
I will just watch reruns of chuck instead.
I have been trying to decide if I should download the second season of turn or wait for it to show up on netflix...
Posted by: Lea at May 31, 2015 08:28 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 08:28 PM (AC0lD)
--Three words: Trailer Park Boys
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:29 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 08:29 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Lea at May 31, 2015 08:28 PM (vmMMi)
--Do you have AMC? Or does AMC.com have episodes?
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:31 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:32 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:32 PM (7P0BI)
***
I think that one guy actually hiccuped on air.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2015 08:33 PM (PMlgt)
The "new" gas cans the EPA mandated SUCK. And will continue to SUCK. I've finally found a use for President Obama's toy "let them eat cake", "let us pretend we care!" site and filed a whitehouse.gov petition to rollback the stupid gas can regulations. It won't go anywhere, but we can at least all agree and get more signatures than the pointless progressive petitions that don't really say anything
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/order-epa-save-environment-new-gasoline-cans
Posted by: GasCansAreTooDamnDangerous at May 31, 2015 08:34 PM (w9MiY)
I have rectal warts *because* I trusted this administration
Posted by: Reggie Love at May 31, 2015 08:35 PM (qFwf5)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:31 PM (7P0BI)
I don't have cable, so I live with netflix/hulu and occasionally just buy stuff on amazon. I bought turn season 1 and liked it. Although it needed more spying.
Log prof, sounds promising. Does the guy from leverage who is playing a slave show up much this season?
Posted by: Lea at May 31, 2015 08:35 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:35 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:32 PM (zOTsN)
----
Probably regulars.
If I watched CSPAN a lot, I would probably be a drunkard. (No, I am not anyway.)
Posted by: RioBravo at May 31, 2015 08:36 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: Lea at May 31, 2015 08:36 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 08:37 PM (JdEZJ)
But I do remember the callers. They seem to have even less of a life than I do.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 08:37 PM (sdi6R)
Got a new tractor. And was cutting trees in the woods all day yesterday. Got reminded how much I hate the new gas cans created by bureaucrats who don't even know what gas smells like..
But seriously, it's easy to sign while watching C-SPAN. And you won't miss much anyway, they're just pretending to disagree for the votes.
Posted by: GasCansAreTooDamnDangerous at May 31, 2015 08:39 PM (w9MiY)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:39 PM (zOTsN)
1. complete progtard assholes calling on the Democrat line
2. complete paranoid nutjobs calling on the Republican line
3. complete progtard assholes calling on the Independent line but pretending (a little bit) to be Independent
Posted by: chemjeff at May 31, 2015 08:40 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:40 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:41 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lea at May 31, 2015 08:35 PM (vmMMi)
--I assume you mean Jordan. Yes, he's Simcoe's right hand man and this season he sees his former mistress (meaning owner, not lover) again.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:41 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 08:41 PM (YQBx9)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 08:37 PM (JdEZJ)
*COUGH*
Posted by: Eric Blair at May 31, 2015 08:42 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 08:42 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: random lurker at May 31, 2015 08:43 PM (WF5ei)
It was hilarious.
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 31, 2015 08:43 PM (JoIcn)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 31, 2015 08:45 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 08:46 PM (sdi6R)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AbeALNVkk
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 08:46 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 08:47 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 08:47 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Stupid woman on a car insurance commercial at May 31, 2015 08:48 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 31, 2015 08:49 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: B. Obama at May 31, 2015 08:50 PM (JoIcn)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 08:50 PM (JdEZJ)
It's not a law at all in that case; it's a privilege given to a ruling class
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 08:50 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Granpa at May 31, 2015 08:51 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:51 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:29 PM (7P0BI)
I'll look them up sometime.....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 08:51 PM (AC0lD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AbeALNVkk
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 08:46 PM (AVEe1)
Should have had R. Lee Ermey playing the father.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 08:52 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 31, 2015 08:52 PM (XX9+E)
I am late to the party as usual, but if a law is only good if the
"right" administration is there to execute it, it's not a good law.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 31, 2015 08:49 PM (V70Uh)
It's the 18,000 pages of other regulations they pass every year that will get you.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 08:53 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 08:53 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 31, 2015 08:55 PM (2XMpf)
abandon the concept of freedom and liberty?My life when I was
growing up would be impossible now.
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 08:41 PM (YQBx9)
I think this would be similar to asking an old man (like me) when he abandoned the concept of youth.
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 31, 2015 08:56 PM (kReud)
Posted by: Harly Kruptbender at May 31, 2015 08:57 PM (gBogr)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 08:57 PM (JdEZJ)
Did you ever name your car?
Posted by: Stupid woman on a car insurance commercial at May 31, 2015 08:48 PM (W5DcG)
I learned to drive in a green '65 VW pickup - the sort with the flop-down sides and looked like a chopped bus. I called it Kaiser Wilhelm II and wanted that painted on the door in cream-colored Fraktur script but Dad wouldn't let me.
I also had a Toyota Cargo Van that a friend always called "The Fist of Allah" and threatened to paint that in arabic on the doors.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 08:57 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: LadyS at May 31, 2015 08:57 PM (xYNhJ)
Posted by: Hillary! at May 31, 2015 08:58 PM (qFwf5)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 08:58 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 08:58 PM (YQBx9)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 08:41 PM (YQBx9)
I dunno. Prohibition, maybe? Why that didn't have people in the streets with torches and pitchforks mystifies me.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 08:58 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 08:59 PM (IrH2i)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 31, 2015 09:00 PM (2XMpf)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 09:01 PM (YQBx9)
Guy I worked for had one painted bright orange and yellow. We called it the weenie wagon. I had to drive it for deliveries.
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:01 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 09:02 PM (7P0BI)
Well, it was either at the Intentional Terminal or the Domestic Terminal.
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 09:02 PM (IrH2i)
I dunno. Prohibition, maybe? Why that didn't have people in the streets with torches and pitchforks mystifies me.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 08:58 PM (sdi6R)
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed...
Plus, it was easier to work around the G-men. In those days, you just ignored government you didn't like, and they ignored you too, unless you were depriving them of money, or made too much noise.
Plus, the eye of Sauron wasn't activated yet.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 31, 2015 09:03 PM (XmOA9)
And don't start with the "but this time is different". No it is not.
Posted by: Dan Patterson at May 31, 2015 09:03 PM (1YIhc)
But the Republicans controlled Congress at the time, so it was totes OK.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 09:04 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 31, 2015 09:04 PM (tAoev)
I loved that.
Once in a while I drive the back road past the spot where I flipped the odometer to Zero
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 09:04 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 31, 2015 09:05 PM (tAoev)
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 09:04 PM (sdi6R
sorry.
I was a fool. Fool me once.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 31, 2015 09:05 PM (XmOA9)
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 09:06 PM (IrH2i)
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 09:04 PM (sdi6R
No it wasn't ok. And the few of us who raised our voices on the patriot act, and the new DHS bureaucracy were shouted down by the mob.
and the demand for conformity to the consensus has only gotten stronger.
Posted by: Harly Kruptbender at May 31, 2015 09:08 PM (gBogr)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:08 PM (JdEZJ)
Breaking news, car plows into LAX. Witness says looks intentional.
Posted by: tinfoilbaby
https://youtu.be/k2beu8dm0dQ
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 31, 2015 09:08 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 09:09 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 09:10 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 09:10 PM (YQBx9)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 09:10 PM (7P0BI)
Those things were tall. I'm not sure they would even fit in my garage.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 09:11 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 09:12 PM (hdy+0)
I hate those people.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 09:13 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:14 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 31, 2015 09:14 PM (sQzB6)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 09:13 PM (AC0lD)
--There's brain bleach but for Kos you need brain delouser.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 09:16 PM (hdy+0)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:16 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Shoot Me at May 31, 2015 09:17 PM (EQcfE)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 09:17 PM (hdy+0)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 31, 2015 09:19 PM (XO6WW)
"
No but I have a candidate. I had a boyfriend whose cat would sit on the ledge by the front door and dive bomb people's faces when they walked inside.
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 09:19 PM (kzA81)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:19 PM (JdEZJ)
I hate those people.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 09:13 PM (AC0lD)
I went over to take a look. One commenter said:
"When in our history have we had the worst Speaker of House and the worst Senate Majority Leader simultaneously?"
I wanted to reply, "You're forgetting Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, but point taken."
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 09:21 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Garrett at May 31, 2015 09:21 PM (IrH2i)
(See what I did there? "Pressure," and "Patriot" like the football team - I made a Deflategate reference.)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2015 09:21 PM (SgXEz)
Posted by: Madonna at May 31, 2015 09:22 PM (D0Tns)
(See what I did there? "Pressure," and "Patriot" like the football team - I made a Deflategate reference.)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2015 09:21 PM (SgXEz)
--We trade in flaccid humor here.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 09:23 PM (hdy+0)
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 09:24 PM (b4Krx)
Posted by: Shaky McGurk at May 31, 2015 09:26 PM (YQBx9)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:27 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Aaron Rogers at May 31, 2015 09:28 PM (IrH2i)
After IRS, it would be insane for a conservative to trust the US gov't, when in the hands of political opponents. Given that the political opponents of conservatism extend well into GOP political class, that means that all government power is suspect.
Posted by: Arkady at May 31, 2015 09:28 PM (ET/v4)
Really. If all those Republican cocksuckers and obama were serious about security why are our borders wide open?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 09:29 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 09:29 PM (b4Krx)
I didn't name my car, the previous owner apperantly did.. "Sassy" heh (also owned or flipped about 2 doz VW bugs lol. luv em, but like 5th gear and AC more!)
What do the morons think about a film with Adam Baldwin playing a secret agent rooting out domestic terrorism?
Just curious...
Posted by: JarvisW at May 31, 2015 09:30 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: Aaron Rogers at May 31, 2015 09:28 PM (IrH2i)
Go on.
Posted by: Olivia Munn at May 31, 2015 09:30 PM (hdy+0)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 09:30 PM (YQBx9)
I briefly looked at a climate change thread about a book by Michael Mann!!
I almost wanted to open up an account and ask about data manipulation, but why bother when the answer is going to be "Shut up!"
The mind blowing orgasm that is SCIENCE! apparently never lets blood fully return to the brain.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 09:31 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 09:30 PM (YQBx9)
--I'd like to know how the Patriot Act and all the data collection helped.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 09:33 PM (7P0BI)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:34 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: derit at May 31, 2015 09:34 PM (jT+gh)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 09:35 PM (YQBx9)
What a flaming a-hole that Rand is.
Rand Paul: Some of My Critics "Secretly Want" Terrorists to Attack the United States via WeeklyStandard http://tws.io/1HZ1q5V
Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2015 09:36 PM (RWGcK)
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 09:36 PM (+xTTN)
To be fair, it's true of Obama.
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 09:37 PM (+xTTN)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 09:38 PM (NLm3u)
People who control government, that's who.
--
And Halliburton.
/s
Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2015 09:39 PM (RWGcK)
Posted by: derit at May 31, 2015 09:39 PM (jT+gh)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:40 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 09:36 PM (+xTTN)
Like when your favorite indy band gets popular?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 31, 2015 09:41 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 09:41 PM (b4Krx)
Ice Pirates was after HotW1, but before Spaceballs.
Ice Pirates differs in that its parodies were (slightly) more subtle. Spaceballs insisted on its references ("oh god not AGAIN"). On the grasping hand... when mocking that genre, parody arguably *shouldn't* be subtle.
I'm going to give the nod to Spaceballs. The plot is easier to follow.
All that said, Anjelica Huston was hot as a Wolf-Rayet in the mid 1980s. Especially in leather :^x
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 09:42 PM (AVEe1)
@KyleWOrton
Rand Paul would have looked less like a nutcase tonight if he just declared himself a poached egg and demanded buttered toast to lie down on
It also made me hungry.
Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2015 09:42 PM (RWGcK)
Ah, so McCain's been watching "Requiem for a Dream"
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 09:43 PM (AVEe1)
my first car was a convertible Karmann Ghia.
The neighborhood VW expert lived across the street. He taught me a crapton about them, including replacing the engine & tranny (at 17).
AnywAy, he painted his bus with a Wagner house sprayer one weekend. White over bright red. From 100 ft awAy, on a rainy day, at dusk, it was beautiful & shiny.
Get within fifty ft of the thing in the daytime and you could see two foot long runs. It looked horrible.
But he was proud of his work, so I guess that's what mattered, right?
Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 31, 2015 09:43 PM (/eN7v)
Yeah and then they lose a drummer and the lead singer leaves but the bass guy somehow gets the name and they sort of limp along but it's never the same. Never the same.
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 09:44 PM (+xTTN)
Posted by: Stupid woman on a car insurance commercial at May 31, 2015 08:48 PM (W5DcG)
That entire ad sereis is stupid. You want a customer that does not understand depreciation?
You are going to do an ad saying your company doesn't understand it?
Really really insulting.
LIV ads. REALLY Insulting.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 31, 2015 09:44 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2015 09:46 PM (KCxzN)
Rand Paul would have looked less like a nutcase tonight if he just declared himself a poached egg and demanded buttered toast to lie down on
KyleWOrton's read just enough CS Lewis to be... obnoxious.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 09:46 PM (AVEe1)
Rand Paul: Some of My Critics "Secretly Want" Terrorists to Attack the United States via WeeklyStandard http://tws.io/1HZ1q5V
Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2015 09:36 PM (RWGcK)
Does anybody seriously doubt that?
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 09:48 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 09:49 PM (YQBx9)
Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2015 09:49 PM (go5uR)
Lindsey Graham comes immediately to mind. He's got the Reichstag Look.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 09:50 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:50 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 09:51 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: Big Al at May 31, 2015 09:52 PM (Ouc7s)
You have to have rocks in your head to side with obama on anything. If obama is doing it, or if obama is for it, it's bad.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2015 09:52 PM (NLm3u)
Posted by: The Fonz at May 31, 2015 09:54 PM (r5Qcm)
In the documents of the Second American Republic, the Second Federalist Papers will have the formula "Obama did [x], so we -" in each chapter's introduction.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 09:55 PM (AVEe1)
"Rand Paul: Some of My Critics "Secretly Want" Terrorists to Attack the United States "
They have already started attacking but nobody has the balls to call it what it is.
Posted by: harleycowboy at May 31, 2015 09:55 PM (+9AX9)
The Left doesn't like to mention that he spoke against the education/research complex as well.
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at May 31, 2015 09:55 PM (nRvEn)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 09:55 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 31, 2015 09:56 PM (XX9+E)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 09:56 PM (YQBx9)
What Melon should have said in Back to School.
Posted by: derit at May 31, 2015 09:57 PM (jT+gh)
I named one candidate: Lindsey Graham.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/lindsey-graham-nsa-tracking-phones-92330.html
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 09:57 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: John F. (stands for fracture) Kerry at May 31, 2015 09:57 PM (b3v0W)
I Like Ike!
Too.
Posted by: Ira Weatheral, man of few words at May 31, 2015 09:53 PM (85ldL)
My dad was a Taft guy. He was right. Ask the Hungarians.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 31, 2015 09:57 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 31, 2015 09:58 PM (2AlPN)
Posted by: Ira Weatheral, man of few words at May 31, 2015 09:56 PM
________
I don't know but it was cooler than the Batgirl cycle.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2015 09:58 PM (r5Qcm)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 09:58 PM (AVEe1)
The Left doesn't like to mention that he spoke against the education/research complex as well.
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at May 31, 2015 09:55 PM (nRvEn)
Yep. I was just about to mention that. Hello? Global Warming, anyone?
That was a great speech. It was his farewell address, and he spoke to the American people like adults. I cannot imagine any of today's politicians giving this speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 09:59 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: otho at May 31, 2015 10:00 PM (tBSrv)
You think Lindsey Graham wants a terrorist attack then Paul should name him specifically. Otherwise it's just a pussy statement.
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 31, 2015 10:00 PM (XX9+E)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 31, 2015 10:01 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at May 31, 2015 10:01 PM (cIoI4)
That's got nothing to do with Paul's statement.
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 31, 2015 10:02 PM (XX9+E)
Posted by: LadyS at May 31, 2015 10:02 PM (xYNhJ)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 31, 2015 10:04 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 10:04 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: LadyS at May 31, 2015 10:02 PM (xYNhJ)
---
Where did I call you or anyone a troll?
Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2015 10:04 PM (RWGcK)
Posted by: Manolo at May 31, 2015 10:05 PM (Z+kHZ)
Posted by: derit at May 31, 2015 10:05 PM (jT+gh)
http://tinyurl.com/oqt48v4
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 10:05 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 31, 2015 10:06 PM (2AlPN)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at May 31, 2015 10:06 PM (XrHO0)
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2015 10:07 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2015 10:04 PM (RWGcK)
wtf? where did that accusation come from.......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2015 10:07 PM (0O7c5)
Why is he embarrassed about being a tribe member?
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 31, 2015 10:08 PM (0FSuD)
Dunno about that, but Y-Not has stated that you're not an American and that Memorial Day is not for you if you don't accept Martin Luther King: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/356911.php
So, she wrote ME out. ... which seems fair, since I naturalised in 1994 when I still believed in that stuff. There are other posters here who wish I'd not naturalised either, more explicitly.
So, I'm hunting around for that receipt.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 10:08 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: irright at May 31, 2015 10:08 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at May 31, 2015 10:09 PM (cIoI4)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 31, 2015 10:04 PM
Aaaaaaaayyyy! Sit on it Pottsie. Leather Tuscadero was more "adventurous".
Posted by: otho at May 31, 2015 10:09 PM (tBSrv)
No, Rand Paul isn't the bad guy here. But Y-Not is around to call us
trolls if we point that out. I hope she'll enjoy the reign of President
O'Malleys Cankles. I won't.
Posted by: LadyS at May 31, 2015 10:02 PM (xYNhJ)
As a Libertarian and a Conservative I agree full-heartedly with you, and this is why I am forced, as a life long Republican, to throw my full support behind Elizabeth Warren.
Posted by: Social Justice Barrista at May 31, 2015 10:10 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 10:10 PM (hdy+0)
Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2015 10:04 PM (RWGcK
Must of been on the gardening thread. Ha ha. I have no clue.
Just plead guilty and carry a mattress
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 31, 2015 10:10 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:11 PM (4oSc7)
2B for the Royals back in '78....went 0 for May and got sent back to the farm
later, he became a socialist senator from Vermont...
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2015 10:11 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Cruzinator at May 31, 2015 10:12 PM (XX9+E)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 31, 2015 10:12 PM (W5DcG)
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That's what you got from that post?
I asked what being American meant to you and used an MLK quote to illustrate what it meant to me.
I had no idea some of you small-minded people were holding a grudge. You really need to get out more.
Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2015 10:12 PM (RWGcK)
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 31, 2015 10:13 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 31, 2015 10:13 PM (hCdMd)
Posted by: derit at May 31, 2015 10:13 PM (jT+gh)
Posted by: Pinch, the newspaper at May 31, 2015 10:14 PM (b3v0W)
The owner paid off debt, didn't reinvest in the business and let it go to hell.
I won't spoil the rest, but the owner was a dumbass.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 10:14 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2015 10:14 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 31, 2015 10:14 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Zombie Chuck Cunningham at May 31, 2015 10:15 PM (2AlPN)
Backing Rand Paul causes lots, if not most, people here, to experience great butt hurt. I've noticed that you're one of those.
Okay. We disgaree. But I don't like the degradation of language- "PaulBot"- whenever anyone expresses approval of Rand Paul's policy positions.
Carry on, or whatever.
Posted by: LadyS at May 31, 2015 10:15 PM (xYNhJ)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 10:15 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:16 PM (4oSc7)
PRO TIP: Don't piss off The Fonz.
Posted by: Zombie Chuck Cunningham at May 31, 2015 10:15 PM (2AlPN)
He don't scare me.
Posted by: Shark at May 31, 2015 10:16 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2015 10:16 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 31, 2015 10:06 PM
Hmmmm.. Fonzie did seem to spend a lot of time hanging in the men's toilets.
Posted by: otho at May 31, 2015 10:16 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2015 10:17 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:18 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 10:15 PM (kivUY)
*****
If he did, it would have gone that way. Look at the Mustang Ranch. They took it and managed to lose money selling pussy and booze. That must have taken some work to fcuk up that badly.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at May 31, 2015 10:19 PM (3F6F8)
Haha! Wrong.
Since I'm not Y-Not, I'll call you a transvetite troll, Lad Ys, you insufferable ass.
Posted by: Tina in shipping with a baritone voice at May 31, 2015 10:19 PM (Q819Q)
Are they going to renew the Intolerable Acts?"
Intolerable Acts? Are you commenting on Ben Affleck's occupation?
Posted by: irright at May 31, 2015 10:19 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 10:19 PM (tO0wb)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:20 PM (4oSc7)
You don't think American citizens deserve protection from the Constitution, even when accused of the most heinous crimes?
American citizens have no right to due process, 4th amendment, 5th and 6th amendment protections just due to the seriousness of the accusation?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 31, 2015 10:20 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Dwayne at May 31, 2015 10:21 PM (2AlPN)
Posted by: note to self... at May 31, 2015 10:21 PM (b3v0W)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at May 31, 2015 10:21 PM (cIoI4)
Posted by: Wind Breaker at May 31, 2015 10:23 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:23 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2015 10:23 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 31, 2015 10:24 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at May 31, 2015 10:24 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: LadyS at May 31, 2015 10:24 PM (xYNhJ)
So red eye without Andy and the leg chair?
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 10:26 PM (tO0wb)
Posted by: derit at May 31, 2015 10:26 PM (jT+gh)
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 10:27 PM (b4Krx)
Posted by: irright at May 31, 2015 10:08 PM (DtNNC)
What are these "pants" you speak of?
Posted by: The Overnight Hat at May 31, 2015 10:28 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: derit at May 31, 2015 10:26 PM (jT+gh)<<<
We're also available for a comeback.
Posted by: RedEye Robot Theater at May 31, 2015 10:29 PM (b3v0W)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2015 10:29 PM (0O7c5)
What is going on here is that people won't let shjt go, and cuddle their butt-hurt to them like a favorite teddy bear in an electrical storm.
Granted, me too. I am nursing my personal butt-hurt like it is worth good money.
I'm pissed off because security, freedom and economic recovery are simple - not easy mind you - but simplesimplesimplesimplesimple and all people have to do is do the right thing and not try to make sure all the sweet kickbacks and the strokes and cocktail party invites land only in the right pockets.
And I am seeing my country be stolen by traitors who pledge to do everything to save it, and are turning it into a dictatorship while they fight over intangibles and who gets the good settings at the table.
So stop being those asshats and get on with your lives.
Thank you for your patience.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 10:29 PM (t//F+)
Do I understand that correctly?
What will Sean Hannity's greeting be!
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 10:30 PM (zOTsN)
Let's focus on surviving choomster, and then rebuilding what he has destroyed.
In other words
You kids better behave, don't make me stop this car.
ONT PLZ
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 10:32 PM (b4Krx)
that Memorial Day is not for you if you don't accept Martin Luther King:
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/356911.php
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2015 10:08 PM (AVEe1)
Don't be a dumbass.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2015 10:32 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 10:29 PM (t//F+)
Too bad, we prefer it *raw*
Posted by: The Federal Government at May 31, 2015 10:32 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: geezer der mensch at May 31, 2015 10:32 PM (DE31Y)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:33 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 10:33 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Madonna at May 31, 2015 10:33 PM (D0Tns)
Posted by: NCKate at May 31, 2015 10:34 PM (zGDNi)
Posted by: geezer der mensch at May 31, 2015 10:34 PM (DE31Y)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 10:34 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 10:34 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2015 10:36 PM (tO0wb)
Posted by: bette middler at May 31, 2015 10:36 PM (kivUY)
Neil Young wrote a song about Monsanto.
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Does it sound like his other songs? (i.e. like someone parked on a cat's tail)
Posted by: irright at May 31, 2015 10:36 PM (DtNNC)
Screw the effin patriot act, and the horse it rode in on.
If they wanna violate the Constitution, let 'em do it cold with no color of law to weasel around on.
It'll make it more clear-cut if it ever gets litigated.
Whenever RP takes a stand on principle, he wins points on my planet. When he weasels around like a emmeffin republican, not so much.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 31, 2015 10:36 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (zOTsN)
I declare a flame war!
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (zOTsN)
Aaaaaaaayyyy! Sit on it Pottsie. Leather Tuscadero was more "adventurous".
Posted by: otho at May 31, 2015 10:09 PM (tBSrv)
Ah yes, Suzi Quatto.
There had been plenty of female singers in rock music, and there were folk musicians like Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell playing acoustic guitars, but Suzi Quatro was pretty much the first woman to be a frontwoman for a rock band playing an electric instrument.
She was American, but had her greatest success in England. Her music wasn't all that memorable, but she was a pioneer and influenced subsequent generations of female musicians. She probably belongs in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame for that.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: derit at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (jT+gh)
Posted by: johnny yuma at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: geezer der mensch at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (DE31Y)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 10:38 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Corona at May 31, 2015 10:38 PM (4ugDk)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:38 PM (4oSc7)
Just about everyone here is pissed about where we are headed.
Don't shoot co-passengers in the handbasket.
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 10:38 PM (b4Krx)
Maybe Craig Ferguson's robot sidekick is available? He was funny....
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 10:38 PM (UJir/)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 10:39 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: geezer der mensch at May 31, 2015 10:39 PM (DE31Y)
Posted by: geezer der mensch at May 31, 2015 10:39 PM (DE31Y)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 10:40 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: NCKate at May 31, 2015 10:40 PM (zGDNi)
Posted by: johnny come lately at May 31, 2015 10:41 PM (uGrec)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2015 10:41 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:41 PM (4oSc7)
I dont' know which one I find more disgusting, but the 2 of them together is one 3 way I'd pass on.
Posted by: docweasel at May 31, 2015 10:41 PM (XxzcU)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 31, 2015 10:41 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2015 10:42 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Wind Breaker at May 31, 2015 10:42 PM (/pOl7)
I dont' know which one I find more disgusting, but the 2 of them together is one 3 way I'd pass on.
Posted by: docweasel at May 31, 2015 10:41 PM (XxzcU)
It's not a serious news site. More like the Weekly World News without Batboy
Posted by: Batboy at May 31, 2015 10:43 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:43 PM (4oSc7)
Wow. No.
Is *this* how Hillary is going to change the current narrative about herself?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 10:44 PM (UJir/)
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at May 31, 2015 10:44 PM (YQBx9)
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 10:44 PM (b4Krx)
Posted by: Madonna at May 31, 2015 10:45 PM (D0Tns)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 31, 2015 10:45 PM (XO6WW)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMqd5EQXD-g
Posted by: johnny yuma at May 31, 2015 10:45 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 10:45 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2015 10:46 PM (UJir/)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 31, 2015 10:46 PM (VdVvm)
"591 Ace has to weigh in on this: http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/yoko-ono-i-had-an-affair-with-hillary-clinton-in-the-70s/"
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I call shenanigans. The smell and the noise would have wiped out all life on the planet.
Posted by: irright at May 31, 2015 10:46 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2015 10:46 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 10:46 PM (zOTsN)
I am in a place where I will support just about anyone who has actually read the Constitution and understands the concept of Liberty, even if they have other thoughts that I may not agree with.
When the Constitution gets established as the Law Of The Land again, we can use free speech to argue about the rest of the stuff. If that doesn't happen, it won't be long before any further discussion will be moot and/or punishable by "law".
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 31, 2015 10:47 PM (OCcU9)
You've already creeped me out with the Kigurumi, Anna. It's the stuff of nightmares.
We either dropped too many nukes on Japan or not enough. It's hard to say.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at May 31, 2015 10:48 PM (0RdKg)
500 What was Joan Jett, chopped liver?
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 31, 2015 10:45 PM (XO6WW)
Suzi Quatro preceded Joan Jett. Her heyday was in the early 70s.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 10:48 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 10:49 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:49 PM (4oSc7)
But I might be back to plan B: only the more expensive coated/jacketed in the 9mm. Making the cost advantage (about 40% with regular uncoated lead bullets) of reloading in that caliber fairly small.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2015 10:50 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 10:50 PM (4oSc7)
"coating" as in coated bullets
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2015 10:51 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 10:52 PM (b4Krx)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 31, 2015 10:53 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 31, 2015 10:53 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 10:55 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2015 10:55 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2015 10:56 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 10:56 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: The Overnight Hat at May 31, 2015 10:57 PM (7YlUk)
- Mary Ann
- 1911
- 870
- longbow
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 31, 2015 10:57 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 10:57 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2015 10:57 PM (QDnY+)
I didn't mean to kill the thread I just hate seeing us shred each other"
Yes, yes. Delicate sensibilities around here of late.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 31, 2015 10:57 PM (VdVvm)
Posted by: irright at May 31, 2015 10:57 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 31, 2015 10:57 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Country Singer at May 31, 2015 10:59 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: otho
****
God help me I just imagined Fonzie in assless chaps, a ball gag in his mouth, and on all fours while Leather T has added an additional "appendage" to herself.
I'm off to seek professional help.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (F0Cog)
Wonder how long a round would "coast" if it were fired in space--provided it didn't collide with anything?
Posted by: irongrampa at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (jeCnD)
The bolt-head is right and there would only be the issue of switching out the barrel, and re-jiggering the extractor.
think it will fly or just be an expensive failure?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Country Singer at May 31, 2015 10:59 PM (nL0sw)
***
No.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (XrHO0)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: PT at May 31, 2015 11:01 PM (uGrec)
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 11:01 PM (hdy+0)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2015 11:02 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 31, 2015 11:02 PM (VdVvm)
Posted by: irright at May 31, 2015 11:03 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 31, 2015 11:03 PM (82LNv)
644 @637
Not being a science witch, I think the laws on that say that it would......go on forever.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 31, 2015 11:02 PM (VdVvm)
Depends on what is meant by "in Space"
Posted by: eman at May 31, 2015 11:03 PM (MQEz6)
type crap. HOWEVER, the crew seems ready to cut loose once the ONT comes through!
Posted by: Ira Weatheral, man of few words at May 31, 2015 11:04 PM (85ldL)
--I'm fine with discussing booze in the meantime.
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2015 11:05 PM (hdy+0)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 31, 2015 11:05 PM (VdVvm)
Posted by: PT
****
She was Pinky in public, Leather behind closed doors IYKWIM.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 31, 2015 11:05 PM (F0Cog)
Posted by: alphabaker at May 31, 2015 11:06 PM (Wfp8t)
I just thought Adam Baldwin playing an NSA type searching for domestic terrorists would be right in his wheelhouse.
"What's the chain of command?"
Posted by: JarvisW at May 31, 2015 11:06 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 31, 2015 11:06 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (jeCnD
It is a question of friction. Per Newton things in motion stay in motion until they are affected by something to change the motion.
Fire it between stars, it would coast until it got drawn into the orbit of something, or encountered a magnetic field that might change the direction or speed.
Fire it in orbit, it goes into orbit and is subject to gravity, solar wind and possibly solar or planetary magnetic fields. If it slows down enough it gets sucked into a large body.
I suppose the answer is "probably not forever"
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 11:06 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2015 11:06 PM (Zu3d9)
- 1911
- 870
- longbow
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
****
I think I've found my long lost brother.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 31, 2015 11:06 PM (F0Cog)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (XrHO0)
I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
*srednop*
Posted by: Country Singer at May 31, 2015 11:06 PM (nL0sw)
And, cheap "Virginia Gentlemen" bourbon with a splash of ginger ale here - plenty to go around...
Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 31, 2015 11:07 PM (82LNv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2015 11:07 PM (0O7c5)
They survive by complaining about how things are.
They have no idea to create prosperity.
They know how to bitch and moan.
That's it.
We will outlast them.
Stand fast. They're losing the LIVs.
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 11:07 PM (b4Krx)
Posted by: Chance Thomas at May 31, 2015 11:07 PM (uGrec)
It's Pinky, not Leather.
Posted by: PT at May 31, 2015 11:01 PM
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It was Pinky in high school... Leather by college.
Posted by: irright at May 31, 2015 11:08 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 31, 2015 11:08 PM (VdVvm)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 11:08 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 31, 2015 11:05 PM (VdVvm)
Probably, there are some butchered up foreign contract Carcanos out in shows. Not planning to chance my delicate eyes and classic profile on detonating a last-ditch carcano in my face.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 11:09 PM (t//F+)
There are lots of vectors that will miiss the gravity of every object in space.
The answer really is, "it depends."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2015 11:09 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: alphabaker at May 31, 2015 11:10 PM (Wfp8t)
So Kerry's broken leg. A broken femur is a big deal, especially in an
older person. You can lose lots of blood. In an older person it means a
long period of traction and physical therapy. It's a bit like breaking
a hip
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 11:08 PM (zOTsN)
So Kerry 2016 is going to be put on hold.
Too bad. The Hillary / Kerry walker races could have been epic.
Posted by: Shark at May 31, 2015 11:10 PM (AC0lD)
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BANG
Posted by: The Equine Veterinarian's Handbook at May 31, 2015 11:10 PM (2AlPN)
Posted by: irright
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I just checked, and the Book Thread is still breathing.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:11 PM (9mTYi)
Dad had a broken femur a few years ago. Two operations and lots of time being laid up. Took up almost two years start to finish.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 31, 2015 11:11 PM (VdVvm)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 11:11 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 11:11 PM (kivUY)
England. Her music wasn't all that memorable, but she was a pioneer and
influenced subsequent generations of female musicians. She probably
belongs in the Rock Roll Hall of Fame for that.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2015 10:37 PM (sdi6R)
And she was a hottie, too. That didn't hurt one bit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2015 11:12 PM (mwzXN)
Sooo, as a gun thread, I was talking to someone about turning an Italian Carcano action into a 7.62 x 39 rifle.
The bolt-head is right and there would only be the issue of switching out the barrel, and re-jiggering the extractor.
think it will fly or just be an expensive failure?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (t//F+)
Sounds like fun.
Special Interest Arms used to do 7.62x39 conversions of Lee-Enfields using the Hungarian singlestack AK mags and a new barrel. Discontinued now, unfortunately. Always wanted one, have a bubba'd No4 with a shot out barrel that would be a great candidate.
On the other hand, last I checked, they still do .45 Auto conversions and De Lisle carbine conversions (both with a faux suppressor and NFA).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 31, 2015 11:12 PM (ynQIy)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 11:12 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (t//F+)
I don't think smashing road-kill possum and dandelions is going to make gourmet food.
But be a fun experience, and won't break a bank.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 31, 2015 11:13 PM (XmOA9)
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Posted by: The Equine
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Nah. Too humane.
Anyhow..., I guess John won't be windsurfing anytime soon.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:13 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 11:13 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 11:14 PM (b4Krx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 31, 2015 11:14 PM (W5DcG)
Maybe he can have another career as a trotter?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2015 11:14 PM (Zu3d9)
Kindl, I defer to others on your project idea. I am at a far lower technical level when it comes to gun projects. At the moment I have a plan to "re-arsenal" my 5 Mosins, meaning reshellac stocks (where needed), electronic bore-clean the barrels (again), polish the bolts, ensure the magazines feed easily with stripper clips (file out the interrupter if needed, and shim the magazine if needed), and document the proper hold/sight picture for each rifle.
irongrampa, I'd think if not acted upon by another force (gravity, etc) a bullet fired in space would in fact continue indefinitely. Hmmm, question: does smokeless powder require any oxygen present to burn? If so then the action of the firearm would have to be not in the vacuum of space.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2015 11:14 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Chance Thomas at May 31, 2015 11:14 PM (uGrec)
Posted by: This thread, laying half-naked, battered & crying on pinball machine. at May 31, 2015 11:14 PM (JoIcn)
Posted by: alphabaker at May 31, 2015 11:14 PM (Wfp8t)
75 is my recommendation for "old enough".
Let's not waste the resources... time for the Death Panels, Johnny.
Posted by: Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel at May 31, 2015 11:14 PM (b3v0W)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 11:15 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Moo Cows at May 31, 2015 11:15 PM (F0Cog)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:15 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 11:15 PM (4oSc7)
http://www.returnofkings.com/64205/anglo-american-women-are-terrible-financial-investments
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at May 31, 2015 11:15 PM (zauWW)
Posted by: Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel
****
He needs to take a pill...
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 31, 2015 11:16 PM (F0Cog)
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 31, 2015 11:16 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Thunderb
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A name picked at random from the phone directory would likely be a superior choice.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:16 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 31, 2015 11:00 PM (jeCnD)
It would basically coast forever, or until it did finally collide with something. It would probably wind up going into an orbit around some planet or moon.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2015 11:17 PM (mwzXN)
Posted by: ACME Glue Mfg. Co. at May 31, 2015 11:17 PM (2AlPN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 31, 2015 11:17 PM (4oSc7)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 31, 2015 11:17 PM (jeCnD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:18 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 31, 2015 11:18 PM (JoIcn)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 31, 2015 11:18 PM (F0Cog)
Auto conversions and De Lisle carbine conversions (both with a faux
suppressor and NFA).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 31, 2015 11:12 PM (ynQIy)
Oh, my. I may have to save my bottles and cans for something like that.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2015 11:18 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:19 PM (9mTYi)
oxygen present to burn? If so then the action of the firearm would have
to be not in the vacuum of space.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2015 11:14 PM (QDnY+)
-----------------------Nope. All things necessary for full combustion are present in the powder.
Posted by: irright at May 31, 2015 11:19 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: Stock Picking Monkeys throwing darts at May 31, 2015 11:19 PM (XmOA9)
Wise.
I had a 7.35 but I only cost me $50 so I thought "what the Hell." Ammo can be hard to find and in fact I wound up finding a good guy in West Virginia who would load it for me.
Personally I probably wouldn't worry with it unless it was real cheap and you had a gunsmith buddy who'd do you a solid.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 31, 2015 11:19 PM (VdVvm)
Posted by: Bruce with a Wang! at May 31, 2015 11:19 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 11:19 PM (kivUY)
Who will replace him
Posted by: Thunderb
****
The biggest loser in the history of Jeopardy.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 31, 2015 11:18 PM (F0Cog)
I've always wanted a second career in diplomacy.....
Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at May 31, 2015 11:20 PM (ynQIy)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 31, 2015 11:20 PM (7YlUk)
Posted by: Tilikum
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So..., Chris Matthews?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:20 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:18 PM (9mTYi)
Nothing to add, just needs repeating.
Posted by: Stock Picking Monkeys throwing darts at May 31, 2015 11:20 PM (XmOA9)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 11:20 PM (zOTsN)
Too old too cut the mustard, he finds himself in a pickle.
Lettuce hope his replacement knows their onions.
Posted by: seamrog at May 31, 2015 11:20 PM (b4Krx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 31, 2015 11:20 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 11:21 PM (zOTsN)
But the nastiness about the injury is sorta low-class for such (well, mostly) respectable folks.
I wish him a full and untroubled recovery. And advise him to resign his current office. With absolutely no illusions that a more suitable or capable person will replace him - OR that such a thing would matter, if it happened.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2015 11:21 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2015 11:22 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2015 11:22 PM (kivUY)
What the hell is going on around here?
Quit taking the high road!
Posted by: Stock Picking Monkeys throwing darts at May 31, 2015 11:23 PM (XmOA9)
http://goo.gl/D6FflO
Posted by: Bruce with a Wang!
****
Bath salts?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 31, 2015 11:23 PM (F0Cog)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 31, 2015 11:23 PM (zOTsN)
Thanks for the link.
He complains about American women. I think the complaint could be extended to all of Western society.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 11:25 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: two men dressed as a tiger at May 31, 2015 11:26 PM (3F6F8)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 31, 2015 11:29 PM (AC0lD)
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