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It's not as though CNN hired him to give legal analysis.
Wait, he's their Chief Justice Correspondent and has a law degree from Fordham?
[Update]
And he responds.
Here.
I would embed it but...Moveable Type 2003.
And he responds again.
Here.
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What the hell?
Posted by: Moki at May 06, 2015 10:07 AM (x303I) 2
Thatisn't in my copy of the Constitution. All speech is protected according to mine.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at May 06, 2015 10:07 AM (O9qtX) 3
Piss Christ isn't hate speech? That was fully protected
Posted by: Ruth at May 06, 2015 10:07 AM (oo88B) Posted by: Matt in Maine at May 06, 2015 10:07 AM (rKjTm) 5
This is one of my favorite tactics of the left.
They have no idea whats in the constitution, and assume no one else does either, so they just make it up. Which may have been a more effective method 20 years ago before you could pull up the constitution on your phone to show someone how stupid they fucking are. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:09 AM (AkOaV) 6
I eat paste
Posted by: The Entire Cuomo Family at May 06, 2015 10:09 AM (KRVqu) 7
Golly Chris, who gets to determine what is hate speech?
Posted by: TBolt69 at May 06, 2015 10:09 AM (wD+ZA) 8
The only speech that is not protected is threats of violence when it is clearly a threat.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2015 10:10 AM (wlDny) 9
Posted by: TBolt69 at May 06, 2015 10:09 AM (wD+ZA)
The Department of Hate Speech, duh don't just say you love the constitution... read it... Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 06, 2015 10:10 AM (AkOaV) 10
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
That's it. No exemptions for impolite, irreverent, uncomfortable, or gauche speech. So fuck off, Cuomo. Posted by: orthodoc at May 06, 2015 10:11 AM (YWXf7) 11
Yeah douche, "hate speech" is excluded.What a fucking retard.
Posted by: steevy at May 06, 2015 10:12 AM (mGBKM) 12
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2015 10:10 AM (wlDny)
Well, there are no carve outs in the constitution. The supreme court has drawn some *very* narrow exceptions, all on grounds other than speech grounds (none on "hate speech" grounds). Like inciting a riot (screaming "fire!" when there isn't one) or "fighting words" (a terrible SCOTUS decision) or inciting a crowd to violence "GO KILL THAT ____ OVER THERE!" (fill in the blank as appropriate) Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:12 AM (AkOaV) 13
Chris Cuomo is a big fan of the Faith Militant. He just doesn't realize that it'll eventually be turned on something he likes.
Posted by: Gaff at May 06, 2015 10:12 AM (jPS2y) 14
He's anticipating SCOTUS changing the law, I guess.
Either that or he assumes Geller's conference is akin to shouting "fire". One thing is certain: He is an idiot. Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:13 AM (LISuA) 15
If he were talking about Canada,the UK and all or most of Europe he would be correct.
Posted by: steevy at May 06, 2015 10:13 AM (mGBKM) Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2015 10:13 AM (St6BJ) 17
Wait, he's their Chief Justice Correspondent and has a law degree from Fordham?
Posted by: BenK at 10:06 AM Nice. My cousin has a law degree from Fordham. I don't think I should ever hire her to represent me if Cuomo is representative of their law program over there. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:13 AM (AkOaV) 18
What the actual hell?
I can tell you right now what his defense will be. Oh I was referencing the various SCOTUS rulings that limit protections for hate speech but twitter is too short for that. Which is still errant nonsense, by which I mean utter bullshit, but I bet that will be the defense. It's boring how predictable this all is. Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:14 AM (mf5HN) Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 10:14 AM (0HooB) 20
Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:13 AM (LISuA
Yeah but.... none of that is in the constitution. All are in subsequent SCOTUS cases. Cuomo seems to think there is some kind of asterisks IN THE CONSTITUTION danglin' off the end of the first amendment there. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:14 AM (AkOaV) 21
What is hate speech? Sounds silly.
Posted by: Fritz at May 06, 2015 10:14 AM (UzPAd) 22
Hey Cuomo, if you did a show where your female companion created crazy food combos and made you eat them.
Then I might pay attention to you. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:14 AM (6Poxk) 23
14 He's anticipating SCOTUS changing the law, I guess.
Either that or he assumes Geller's conference is akin to shouting "fire". One thing is certain: He is an idiot. Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:13 AM (LISuA) If that's what he's saying than he is admitting that Islam is NOT a "religion of peace." Just the opposite; he's confirming that it is violent. All you have to do is provoke them and QED. He proves Pamela Gellar's point and is too stupid to realize it. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2015 10:15 AM (St6BJ) 24
13 Chris Cuomo is a big fan of the Faith Militant. He just doesn't realize that it'll eventually be turned on something he likes.
Posted by: Gaff at May 06, 2015 10:12 AM (jPS2y) I'm going to go out on a limb, and say the Chris et al have never read what happened to Robespierre, later on in the French Revolution. Sucks to be ignorant. Posted by: Moki at May 06, 2015 10:15 AM (x303I) 25
Add C to LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ - for cuomosexuals (i.e. ones with two brains, neither functional)
Posted by: Roy at May 06, 2015 10:15 AM (VndSC) 26
Lefties have the fascistic instinct deep in their bones.
They cannot imagine that "liberty" or "freedom" or "rights" apply to people, causes, speech, and institutions they don't like. In other words they want these freedoms for their own tribe and to fit their own uses but not any one else. And this, of course, isn't freedom. But they are deluded into thinking it is. Posted by: gwelf at May 06, 2015 10:15 AM (+7Usq) 27
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:14 AM (mf5HN)
"don't just say you love the constitution... read it" doesn't seem to referencing SCOTUS decisions. Which is much more excusable for people not to know the ins and outs of 200 years of SCOTUS decision than the constitution (he was trying to say conservatives are dumb) Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:16 AM (AkOaV) Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:16 AM (5QyYN) 29
Chris Cuomo is a great American!
Posted by: John Boner in Assless Chaps at May 06, 2015 10:16 AM (8W5zZ) 30
No exemptions for impolite, irreverent, uncomfortable, or gauche speech.
Or--to the butthurt of some of the Horde, and you ratfuckers know who you are--speech by women. Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 06, 2015 10:17 AM (ZKzrr) 31
No delusion there, it's more like sociopathy.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 06, 2015 10:17 AM (go6ud) 32
All speech not in accord with progressive ideology is hate speech and forbidden. It's in the "good and plenty" clause. Look it up.
Posted by: Chris Cuomo's Nepotism at May 06, 2015 10:17 AM (GgxVX) 33
Cheebus. From the previous post...
Polish the feed ramp? Have you had a gunsmith look at it? Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:09 AM (5QyYN) Nah, but thats because I hate the way it feels. I'd get rid of iteven if it did shoot right. In the meanwhile, I'll use the Beretta if need be (and God-willing, I won't have to). Posted by: DangerGirl at May 06, 2015 10:18 AM (F8EBp) 34
Chris - does that little tongue-clicking sound that women make when a guy makes a comment count as unprotected speech?
Posted by: Roy at May 06, 2015 10:18 AM (VndSC) 35
"don't just say you love the constitution... read it"
doesn't seem to referencing SCOTUS decisions. Which is much more excusable for people not to know the ins and outs of 200 years of SCOTUS decision than the constitution (he was trying to say conservatives are dumb) Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:16 AM (AkOaV) Oh I didn't mean to imply that the defense was valid. Or, you know, correct, just that you stupid wingers you know what I meant but you don't get it because u r stupid. Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:18 AM (mf5HN) 36
So the Constitution gives him the right to free speech?
Interesting take, for a man with no small background in Law. And possibly a small penis. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2015 10:18 AM (VPLuQ) 37
Cuomo has misinterpreted the Constitution before - think it was on gun rights...
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2015 10:18 AM (2TN4k) 38
"Hate speech" being defined, of course, as "anything you say that disagrees with a DemonRat policy position".
Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2015 10:19 AM (rXB/r) 39
He was hired for the name "Cuomo". That said, his stand is entirely consistent with lefty doctrine, which (A) wants an exception for hate speech and (II) wants to define what constitutes hate speech and (3) thinks anything you and I say is hate speech.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 06, 2015 10:19 AM (RD7QR) 40
Y'know he just might be right. I took him up on it. After staring at 1A for a few minutes there were penumbras leaping everywhere from the page. Damndest thing I ever saw.
/sarc Posted by: ObjectionSustained at May 06, 2015 10:19 AM (KjC0V) 41
...still waiting for that objective standard by which we can all separate "hate speech" from "free speech."
Posted by: jwpaine at May 06, 2015 10:19 AM (0bXhD) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2015 10:19 AM (VPLuQ) Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:20 AM (mf5HN) Posted by: Bill Maher at May 06, 2015 10:20 AM (2TN4k) 45
It's not against the law to be an asshole, - look at Barry Obama! Or the Clintons! Or are those bad examples?
Posted by: Fritz at May 06, 2015 10:20 AM (UzPAd) 46
And for my next performance, "Theme and Variations on Chris Cuomo."
Posted by: Le Petomane at May 06, 2015 10:21 AM (8W5zZ) Posted by: The Constitution at May 06, 2015 10:21 AM (VndSC) 48
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:18 AM (mf5HN)
well, we'll see. I say it's more likely he deletes the tweet and/or just ignores the whole thing. OR doubles down. Personally, I love it when liberals double down. But you may be right. He may take the "your lizard minds are too under developed to understand the nuances of the brilliant point I was making" upper road. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:21 AM (AkOaV) 49
Remember this:
Lefties: CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE! THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS111!!!!!!! Us: So, the NY Times' speech can be controlled by the government? Lefties: CITIZENS UNITED!!111!!!! Us: Oh, so Citizens United - a non-profit that made a tiny film about 1%er Hillary Clinton - is "rich people" distorting the political process? Lefties: OK, OK, OK, WE JUST NEED TO GET RICH PEOPLE OUT OF THE POLITICAL PROCESS! Us: Great. So if the Koooooooooooooooooooooooooooch Bros buy a newspaper you'll shut up about it? Lefties: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: gwelf at May 06, 2015 10:21 AM (+7Usq) 50
Hate speech laws like those in Canada and Europe are coming our way with a quickness. Claiming 'hate speech' isn't protected under the 1st Amendment is the first step in making it happen. If the Left can't kill the 1st Amendment, they can sure as hell neuter it by rendering it meaningless, one maliciously parsed word at a time.
Posted by: troyriser at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (XHR9b) 51
Who get's to decide what hate speech is? Only Liberals? Most of what is said on CNN and MSNBC is hate speech.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (/tNwW) 52
Only a Leftist could read a document meant to constrain the government and empower the people and see it as constraining the people and empowering government.
Also idiots, BIRM. Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12 at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (DT3rQ) 53
Idiot. Even if he's talking about "fighting words" that doesn't apply in this case.
Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (MYCIw) Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (AkOaV) 55
Hate speech laws like those in Canada and Europe are coming our way with a quickness. Claiming 'hate speech' isn't protected under the 1st Amendment is the first step in making it happen. If the Left can't kill the 1st Amendment, they can sure as hell neuter it by rendering it meaningless, one maliciously parsed word at a time.
Posted by: troyriser at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (XHR9b) Spot On! Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (/tNwW) 56
Is flag burning hate speech? Okay, FYNQ.
Posted by: Chupacabras at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (kZVsz) 57
And I just saw the update.
Told You So Posted by: alexthechick Bans fighting words. So the religion of no peace is just that. Amazing. Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (5QyYN) 58
Them's fightin' words!
Posted by: Yosemite Sam at May 06, 2015 10:23 AM (W5DcG) Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:23 AM (5QyYN) Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 06, 2015 10:23 AM (/Ho8c) 61
Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (MYCIw)
Of course it doesn't. And even in the original SCOTUS ruling it was about a guy calling a cop a "fascist" which broke some NH state law at the time that said you cannot insult people in public (who the fuck knows?) Which uhh... STUPID as hell SCOTUS decision. Decided absolutely wrong. BUT has nothing to do with drawing mohammed. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:23 AM (AkOaV) 62
If my understanding is correct, "fighting words" is where you get up in somebody's grill* and say "I left your mother bleeding on the dance floor last night," not "Islam is not a religion of peace." Crucial difference, Chris.
*See? Even pale penis people can be Down With The Street. Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 06, 2015 10:23 AM (RD7QR) 63
Have you ever had any misfire or misfeed issues? My current handgun misfeeds way more than I'm comfortable with.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 06, 2015 09:24 AM (F8EBp) I had 50 rounds of Wolf that misfed on every round. The nose was too squared-off to properly chamber. I've fired over 1,000 rounds of everything else (Federal, Eagle, Civil Defense) without a single issue. I carry Civil Defense rounds and shoot Federal at the range. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:23 AM (fwARV) 64
I misspoke: does burning a flag fall under fighting words? Then FYNQ.
Posted by: Chupacabras at May 06, 2015 10:24 AM (kZVsz) 65
55 Never fear,Mitch McConnell and John Boehner would never allow....oh.
Posted by: steevy at May 06, 2015 10:24 AM (mGBKM) 66
doesn't seem to referencing SCOTUS decisions. His reply to BenK says "Chaplinsky bans fighting words", so it is a SCOTUS reference. Of course fighting words = hate speech is arrant nonsense and also bullshit. Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 06, 2015 10:24 AM (JtwS4) 67
*serves AlextheChick a large strawberry hateshake through the USB port*
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:24 AM (6Poxk) 68
All the cases abridging free speech have been stupidly decided.
The whole "fire in a crowded theater" was about a guy handing out antiwar pamphlets. Uh. No. Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (MYCIw) 69
I believe most of these people go to law school for two reasons.
1. Because it has become the essential resume listing in order to get into politics or the best restaraunts. 2. They want to understand enough of the current law so that they can use it against people to commit their social lawfare or create additional laws that conflict with the original one, creating cases that drag on for years and are lucrative. I've also decided that getting into law school is now easier than getting into a beauty school. It has to be. There are a zillion laws schools now, and they all are full. They have become the Plan B or C of the permanent student class that we seem to be funding in masse. Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (EMXR7) 70
Cuomo's lack of awareness is staggering.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (0HooB) 71
you win!
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:22 AM (AkOaV) That was a sucker bet. As I said, it's predictable. Also boring. Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (mf5HN) 72
Chaplinsky Chaplinsky Chaplinsky Chaplinsky Chaplinsky Chaplinsky
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (fWAjv) 73
"Don't listen to Ace...It's the Valu-Rite talkin' "
Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (eOpVe) 74
Charles Chaplinski the famous Polish tramp.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (W5DcG) 75
Fighting words?
Popehat Totally Destroyed that crap yesterday. Fighting words is when you're saying things that will immediately start a fight with a reasonable person who you're actually talking to face to face. Can't wait for "Shouting fire in a theater!" Posted by: gwelf at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (+7Usq) 76
When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean. Neither more nor less.
Posted by: Humpty Cuomo at May 06, 2015 10:26 AM (2AlPN) Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:26 AM (LISuA) 78
Have you ever had any misfire or misfeed issues? My current handgun misfeeds way more than I'm comfortable with.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 06, 2015 09:24 AM (F8EBp) What caliber, if I may ask? Is the behavior similar with different mags? How about different operators? (not snark) Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 06, 2015 10:26 AM (/Ho8c) 79
Well, a fire in the right theatre could cause an explosion, so there's that.
Posted by: Le Petomane at May 06, 2015 10:26 AM (8W5zZ) 80
A lot of the time, misfeeds are magazine related. Got any more details on what's actually happening, DangerGirl?
Posted by: Chupacabras at May 06, 2015 10:27 AM (kZVsz) 81
Fighting words is lefty speak now for "Anything you say that upsets me is hate speech".
Posted by: gwelf at May 06, 2015 10:27 AM (+7Usq) 82
"There are a zillion laws schools now, and they all are full. They have become the Plan B or C of the permanent student class that we seem to be funding in masse."
This is very, very true. If you can crack a 140 on the LSAT, someone will take you. And I'm pretty sure my 10 year old could meet that threshold. Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2015 10:27 AM (MYCIw) 83
The "read it" is what makes this sohilarious. It's a line you'd give to a sitcom character to illustratehisstupidity (like, "it says in the Bible that .. . " followed by whatever the stupid character says is acceptable).
Posted by: Bud Norton at May 06, 2015 10:27 AM (6cOMd) 84
Posted by: Chupacabras at May 06, 2015 10:24 AM (kZVsz)
No it doesn't. "fighting words" have to be said to a person in a way that "any reasonable person" would be super duper offended and feel the need to defend their honor. But it can't be about someone, it has to be *to* someone. So I can say "John Smith sucks homeless dudes cocks for fun" and generally I'm okay (assuming he sucks dick and I'm not slandering him), but if I go up to John Smith and call him a "cock sucker", I could get a ticket if my state had a law (like NH once did) about "insulting people in public" Now, he still wouldn't be justified in hitting me or anything... Frankly, its an affront of the 1st amendment and SCOTUS should overturn that decision with as much haste as possible. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:28 AM (AkOaV) 85
Hate speech is what a leftist is referring to when they say the words "hate speech."
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 06, 2015 10:28 AM (RD7QR) 86
Chaplinsky vs. New Hampshire banned trigger words.
Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 06, 2015 10:28 AM (JtwS4) 87
Lefties: You can't shout fire in a theater - but you can argue the theater deserved to be set on fire if Michelle Gellar was there talking to people.
Posted by: gwelf at May 06, 2015 10:28 AM (+7Usq) 88
Constitution?..."You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means"
Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 06, 2015 10:28 AM (eOpVe) 89
And, c'mon, these lefties aren't actually going to start swinging.
So, a reasonable person would not expect a fight to start. Posted by: Chupacabras at May 06, 2015 10:28 AM (kZVsz) 90
So, somebody I never heard of, from a network I never watch and a medium I don't see except in brief webclips, using a social medium I don't use, said something ignorant.
Huh. In real news, Oklahoma soldier returns from the dead: "They shocked me," Lopez said. "About seven shocks later, I finally came to." ... Though he has a humble and astounding sense of humor about his near-death experience, he considers it a miracle he didn't have to leave his wife and 11-month-old son behind for good. His mother, Penny, said it is all thanks to faith, the Oklahoma standard and the U.S. Army.... Ariana Garza, KOCO http://bit.ly/half-hour-dead GoFundMe account for Clint Lopez http://www.gofundme.com/rr99wc Posted by: mindful webworker at May 06, 2015 10:29 AM (YTvcG) 91
Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2015 10:27 AM (MYCIw)
Pretty sure the scale goes from 140-180, so just showing up should help you crack 140... Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:29 AM (AkOaV) 92
Chaplinsky is a terrible decision.
That being this is all too common - not just among supposed legal analyst - but the public at large. The Constitution is whatever the Court says. I guess separate but equal was Constitutional. Interning Japanese - Americans, perfectly Constitutional. So long as the Court says so. Posted by: SH at May 06, 2015 10:29 AM (gmeXX) 93
oops, 120-180 ** nevermind.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:29 AM (AkOaV) 94
Yes, that was my point, mynewhandle. Flag burning isn't fighting words, so their argument is totally invalid.
Posted by: Chupacabras at May 06, 2015 10:29 AM (kZVsz) 95
Fighting words is when you're saying things that will immediately start a fight with a reasonable person who you're actually talking to face to face.
Can't wait for "Shouting fire in a theater!" What about shouting "theater" at a fire? Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:30 AM (5QyYN) 96
Triggering <------------ Fighting Words
i.e. carte blanch to claim anything = unprotected hate speech Posted by: Bill Maher at May 06, 2015 10:30 AM (2TN4k) 97
The left is telling us right now what they plan to do.
The question is what are we going to do about it? Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2015 10:30 AM (78TbK) 98
Excellent question from the Twitter comments:
A - Drawing Mohammed B - Burning the US colors Which of the above is considered 'hate speech' or 'fighting words'? A B Both Neither Show your work. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:30 AM (fwARV) 99
GoFundMe account for Clint Lopez
http://www.gofundme.com/rr99wc Hey, wait a minute. This account isn't funding some conservative h8er, is it? Because that's against our rules. Posted by: GoFuckMe at May 06, 2015 10:30 AM (2AlPN) 100
Cuomo is full of shit. He also needs to read Cohen v. California.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 06, 2015 10:30 AM (2Ojst) 101
Chris Bowyer
To be fair, "Chaplinsky" is a pretty common misspelling of "Constitution." I mean, they both start with a C. ======================= That's a great response tweet to Idiot Cuomo. Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:30 AM (LISuA) Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:30 AM (LISuA) 102
How is "No Justice, No Peace" not considered "fighting words".
Posted by: reality man at May 06, 2015 10:31 AM (BNEdd) 103
Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder. How convenient for those who would suppress dissent.
Posted by: flounder at May 06, 2015 10:31 AM (ecDRv) 104
Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (EMXR7)
or people like me who hate my job and want to go back to school to avoid the real world for 3 more years. cant forget us. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:31 AM (AkOaV) Posted by: From out of nowhere! at May 06, 2015 10:32 AM (jEVE9) 106
Sounds like, for Cuomo, the latest court ruling on a matter is the Constitution.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 06, 2015 10:32 AM (LA7Cm) 107
Well, now that Daddy is gone you haters are gonna see me stand on my own two feet now, and...
(trips over own foot and falls) Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 06, 2015 10:33 AM (DLu2s) 108
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Chaplinsky is a terrible decision. That being this is all too common - not just among supposed legal analyst - but the public at large. The Constitution is whatever the Court says. I guess separate but equal was Constitutional. Interning Japanese - Americans, perfectly Constitutional. So long as the Court says so. --------------------------------------------- Plessy v Ferguson. Dredd Scott. Posted by: gwelf at May 06, 2015 10:33 AM (+7Usq) 109
I hate Liberals and Islam. By definition, you could say it's hate speech. Or and opinion. So that has to be banned, what? Meet the New new world order. Same as the old new world order. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2015 10:33 AM (St6BJ) 110
*goes and hides under the table*
Puerto Rico is well set to go Greece. The island's government agencies are $73 billion in the hole. Have been borrowing to paper over deficits. And now that the debt collectors are pounding on the door, trying to rewrite bankruptcy law and/or raise taxes. http://tinyurl.com/lwzxd2o Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:33 AM (6Poxk) 111
Spencer, Geller and Wilders were yelling fire in Texas and then two dickheads heard about it in Arizona. That theatre covers three large states. An alien from Ceres could spot it with binoculars
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 06, 2015 10:33 AM (oerr2) 112
Of course Gabe has the same view of the Constitution. It is whatever the Court says it is.
Posted by: SH at May 06, 2015 10:34 AM (gmeXX) 113
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:30 AM (fwARV)
I'm going with "neither" Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:34 AM (AkOaV) Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 10:34 AM (FsuaD) 115
If Republicans made speech the campaign issue it should be, we'd win every race nationwide. So we certainly wouldn't want to do anything like that.
Posted by: John Boner in Assless Chaps at May 06, 2015 10:34 AM (8W5zZ) 116
Posted by: SH at May 06, 2015 10:34 AM (gmeXX)
Right. Common law seems to have "evolved" well using precedence and stare decisis. But questions of constitutionality should not rest on precedence and should be decided on a plain text reading of the source document in question (the constitution). Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:35 AM (AkOaV) 117
Speaking of. A hacked (up) 2003 version of moveable type is no way to go through life Ace.
Posted by: People Corp at May 06, 2015 10:35 AM (TzeLs) Posted by: scoffing scofflaw what scoffs at May 06, 2015 10:35 AM (0bXhD) 119
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Fighting words is when you're saying things that will immediately start a fight with a reasonable person who you're actually talking to face to face. Can't wait for "Shouting fire in a theater!" What about shouting "theater" at a fire? ---------------------------------------------------- It's ok to shout at fire. But you cannot shout "theater" while in a fire. Unless you're in a theater fire. Posted by: gwelf at May 06, 2015 10:35 AM (+7Usq) 120
I'm going with "neither"
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:34 AM (AkOaV) Me too. I want an answer from the liberals. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:35 AM (fwARV) 121
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:33 AM (6Poxk)
Shit, Obamas got that covered. If they just name a golf course or two after him, I'm sure he'll write them a check from his stash. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:36 AM (AkOaV) Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:36 AM (5QyYN) 123
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:35 AM (fwARV)
Oh they don't answer questions like that under they get the talking point. In the meantime, they just stare blankly with smoke coming out of their logic circuits. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:36 AM (AkOaV) 124
Ah, here it is - past Constitutional brilliance from Cuomo:
Cuomo was debating Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. Near the end of the back-and-forth and after Moore argued that rights cannot be handed down by men, Cuomo blurted out: "Our rights do not come from God, your honor, and you know that. They come from man... That's your faith, that's my faith, but that's not our country. Our laws come from collective agreement and compromise." . Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2015 10:36 AM (2TN4k) 125
116 Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:35 AM (AkOaV)
Stare decisis. Totally fucked up but it's the statist's bible. Seriously, if they revere previous law then slavery should still be legal. Sheesh. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2015 10:36 AM (St6BJ) 126
You know, I'm positive a-thrilled at the cut of this Chris Cuomo's jib! Could you Dhimmicrats see to electing this fellow into high political office? Perhaps, dare I say it.......
"Dare, Dare!" The Presidency? Posted by: John the Jihadist at May 06, 2015 10:37 AM (8E9QA) 127
Case law is like whispering a secret sentence to the first of 25 kids and see what comes out of the last kid. It will be Nothing like the input. No need to ever refer back to the original text because: case law.
Posted by: how it works at May 06, 2015 10:37 AM (wkuqO) 128
Imbeciles like Cuomo are yet another reason why I don't have a Twatter account.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 10:37 AM (0HooB) 129
As I was trying to explain this to a friend yesterday.
"See, here's the difference. you might be willing to die for your religious beliefs, but they are willing to kill for theirs". Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2015 10:37 AM (VPLuQ) 130
And none of YOU losers have their own TV show, which I got by being all smart and stuff, and clever, and...
(trips over dropped Starbucks latte cup, fractures skull) Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 06, 2015 10:37 AM (DLu2s) 131
I'm late to the party, but this OT should be interesting to the Horde.
Michigan had a stupid proposal on the ballot yesterday. Michigan's roads are in such poor condition that our potholes are legendary. Our legislature has been arguing (despite being majority Republican) for months over how to fix it. During all the debates, it came to light that the current state fuel tax IS NOT 100% being used for road maintainence. Instead, a large percentage of it is being siphoned off for Yes..you guessed it, schools, programs for the poor, etc. So when it was proposed to restore the fuel tax usage back to it's intended purpose, roads, resulting in a loss of major money to all these non road recipients, the war was on. Our children would suffer school closing, loss of programs, etc. The poor would starve, the state would lose a balanced budget, etc. etc. So what did our brilliant legislators come up with? A hybrid proposal in which the state fuel tax would be raised, the state SALES tax would go up 1%, the increase in sales tax would continue to fund the schools, etc. (remember when the lottery was supposed to fund the schools beyond their wildest dreams-yeah, that's been siphoned off too) and the working poor would get more money..from the increase in taxes they pay to buy things, lol. The fuel tax would supposedly go to fully fund roads , but the language was murky. Short answer, the voters in Michigan defeated this proposal 85% No. Virtually no one believed the BS coming out of Lansing on this proposal. Snyder was still sounding like Baghdad Bob yesterday, claiming that he thought the proposal would pass. It's heartening to see that my fellow Americans in my state, regardless of political bent, continue to have some sense and some fortitude. The Nerd was so wrong.....LOL. Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2015 10:37 AM (EMXR7) 132
You don't even have to scratch lefties anymore to find a fascist.
Posted by: gwelf at May 06, 2015 10:38 AM (+7Usq) 133
"Our rights do not come from God, your honor, and
you know that. They come from man... That's your faith, that's my faith, but that's not our country. Our laws come from collective agreement and compromise." . Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2015 10:36 AM (2TN4k) He's a legal positivist, as are all leftists. Posted by: Insomniac at May 06, 2015 10:38 AM (2Ojst) 134
12 Like inciting a riot (screaming "fire!" when there
isn't one) or "fighting words" (a terrible SCOTUS decision) or inciting a crowd to violence "GO KILL THAT ____ OVER THERE!" (fill in the blank as appropriate) Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:12 AM (AkOaV) See post #8 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2015 10:38 AM (wlDny) 135
The Liberty in the Constitution is an illusion anyway. Let's go back to the Articles of Confederation
Posted by: Bigby's Latex Gloves at May 06, 2015 10:38 AM (3ZtZW) 136
We may think this is funny, but it is becoming official policy
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 06, 2015 10:39 AM (eGmvn) 137
Poor Chris. He's clearly been eating too much of the crap his brother's live-in, Sandra Lee, has been serving.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 10:39 AM (FsuaD) 138
When they came for the booth babes I said nothing...
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:39 AM (6Poxk) 139
I'd be happy to hire him on as a paralegal. But only for his family's organized crime contacts.
Posted by: Saul Goodman at May 06, 2015 10:39 AM (nFdGS) 140
BTW that old saw about yelling fire in a crowed theater is a myth. There has never been such a ruling. You can in fact yell fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire. Of course you can be held liable for injuries and damages too.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2015 10:40 AM (wlDny) 141
Add C to LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ - for cuomosexuals (i.e. ones with two brains, neither functional) Posted by: Roy at May 06, 2015 10:15 AM (VndSC) Cuomosexual = Fucked in the head? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2015 10:40 AM (ewiBW) 142
Fordham: pay your fees and get your Cs.
Just like the rest of the Ivies now that the morally corrupt faux intellectual left has destroyed them. They are no longer institutes of higher learning but indoctrination where the trick is getting in, not actually being smart. If I'm not mistaken, this idiot is the dame guy who said that man's rights come from government. Posted by: Dancing Queen at May 06, 2015 10:40 AM (Ol/Jg) 143
And seeing the second response, I shall just limber up for another victory lap.
*stretch stretch stretch* *bend over* *touches toes* Told. You. So. Oh how I told you so: .@SnakeTaleJohnny you think I really meant it was one of the six textual precepts of 1A? Don't be so desperate to find criticism. https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/595961408136839168 God, this is pathetic in its boring obviousness. Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (mf5HN) 144
The left is in this for the long haul, and will never give up.
They will keep drumming the "hate speech" line, and it won't take long, really, for polling to show that a "majority of Americans" buy into it. ISIS would be stupid to target Pam with something like a suicide vest, something that would result in ancillary damage. Their smartest move would be to hit her with precision, so that their friends in America can say, there, the hater got what she deserved. Posted by: the littl shyning man at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (U6f54) Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (5QyYN) 146
Sad thing is he is known as the "smart" Cuomo.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (g1DWB) 147
Wow. Also, 'drawing a picture of a guy who existed in history'? NOT hate speech by any reasonable definition. Posted by: Lea at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (lIU4e) 148
Jen the original at May 06, 2015 10:37 AM (EMXR7)
Wisconsin just passed a constitutional amendment (I think) that forces the state government to use the fuel tax for roads and such because of the same thing (funds were being diverted for other crap). It took a constitutional amendment though...geeesh. Posted by: GMan at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (sxq57) 149
Im surprised Cuomo is a fan of the "fighting words" carve out. I didn't hear him advocating the police arrest protesters in Baltimore when they were calling the cops fascists.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (AkOaV) 150
The fail is strong with this one.
Posted by: Scott M at May 06, 2015 10:42 AM (AdBfq) 151
God, this is pathetic in its boring obviousness.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (mf5HN) I enjoyed this one too: you said hate speech was not protected. Then you changed it to fighting words. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:42 AM (fwARV) 152
Had a friend try to explain this using the Catholic Church.
"If you marry a Catholic, you must agree to raise your children's Catholics" So I asked if two Methodists get married and have children, does the Catholic Church have the right to dictate that the children be raised Catholic. 'Well, of course not, the Catholic church has no say over a non Catholic" The light bulb started to glow ever so dimly. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2015 10:42 AM (VPLuQ) 153
You know what else is hate speech? Saying Andy is the smart one of the family! Next meanie I hear saying that, I'm slapping a write of 'hobos is corporals' on them so fast, they'll think...
(trips over laces of hand-made shoes that he's tied together, falls, fractures skull again) Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 06, 2015 10:42 AM (DLu2s) 154
And he's still digging:
you think I really meant it was one of the six textual precepts of 1A? Don't be so desperate to find criticism. Uh, he said to read the Constitution. Now he's saying don't be so literal? Like one of the other people in the thread said: Chris just isn't very good at this sort of thing. Posted by: @JohnTant` at May 06, 2015 10:43 AM (eytER) 155
And seeing the second response, I shall just limber up for another victory lap. *stretch stretch stretch* *bend over* *touches toes* Bunk! Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 06, 2015 10:43 AM (JtwS4) Posted by: Insomniac at May 06, 2015 10:43 AM (2Ojst) 157
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (mf5HN)
He thought he had such a good point. He had a little smirk on his face when he typed "read it!" cuz he thought he really got one over on those stupid in bred camo wearing bible thumpin "constitution" types who are too stupid to be able to read and understand the constitution. Unlike him, whose only exposure to the constitution was in constitution law 101 which im sure was taught by a progressive dolt. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:44 AM (AkOaV) Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:44 AM (fwARV) 159
145 Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder.
I AM NOT holding bees. Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (5QyYN) OH GOD, NOT THE BEES, NOT THE BEEEEESSSS!!!!! Posted by: Nicolas Cage at May 06, 2015 10:44 AM (2Ojst) 160
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Chris Cuomo as a shining example of the hereditary governing class we've let take over this country.
We're doomed. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at May 06, 2015 10:44 AM (DLu2s) 161
But, but CHAPLINSKY!!!!!
Posted by: Ruth at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (oo88B) Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (JtwS4) 163
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:42 AM (fwARV)
Which was a horrific SCOTUS decision, and if Cuomo actually read the decision, I'm sure he would be against it. But he wont. Because hes smart and we're stupid. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (AkOaV) 164
Looks like Fordham will give a law degree to any asshat with the price of tuition.
Posted by: maddogg at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (xWW96) Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (h4vJk) 166
Hate speech. An Orwellian term for bypassing the First Amendment.
Posted by: Mike at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (1V9qu) 167
160 Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Chris Cuomo as a shining example of the hereditary governing class we've let take over this country.
We're doomed. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at May 06, 2015 10:44 AM (DLu2s) Habsburgs v2.0 Posted by: Insomniac at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (2Ojst) 168
A lot of the time, misfeeds are magazine related. Got any more details on what's actually happening, DangerGirl?
Posted by: Chupacabras at May 06, 2015 10:27 AM (kZVsz) I have four (or maybe it's five) magazines, and the misfires are not all from the same one. Unless they're all defective? I've tried different ammo, same result. I can't remember what the stuff I read said the problem was, either. Oh and another thing I hate about it is that it ejects the casings backwards into my face. Had one get stuck between my temple and safety glasses arm. I'd take it to a gunsmith if I liked the weight and grip, but I don't so... Posted by: DangerGirl at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (F8EBp) 169
Alternate headline: Chris Cuomo says something stupid; world wonders why it's news.
Hey, America: Islam is testing you and the world is watching. Cuomo just got an F. Posted by: Socratease at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (2GbWn) 170
To give the Empress some serious exercise of the cerebellum or perhaps cause her to join me under the desk hiding from an insane world.
California's Attorney General, Kamala Harris, has minions with odd side jobs. Three of them apparently have been running a rogue police force called the Masonic Fraternal Police Department. http://tinyurl.com/kanqclu Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (6Poxk) 171
We may think this is funny, but it is becoming official policy
Yup. The goalposts are being moved in all types of ways. Cuomo's ridiculous example here is one, and the Twatter mobs trying to eliminate the concept of the presumption of innocence is another. The leftards are pushing outrageous ideas that fly in the face of everything we once held dear, and they're getting away with it. Right up until they reach me, that is. This bullshit needs to be fought back against at every opportunity. "I'm sorry, but that's not true" comes out of me a lot more these days. And it does piss a lot of people off, but then I explain to them that they've been lied to by people who either don't know the truth or are deliberately misleading them. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (0HooB) 172
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:44 AM (fwARV)
are you on that new fangled tweet machine thing all the young kids are telling me about? Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (AkOaV) 173
Cuomo ought to campaign for a title change at CNN to "Social Change Reporter".
Xe's definitely up for the job, as he shows in these tweets. Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (LISuA) 174
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (F8EBp)
I'm the opposite of an expert, but could it be the ammo you are using? Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (AkOaV) 175
Wisconsin just passed a constitutional amendment (I think) that forces the state government to use the fuel tax for roads and such because of the same thing (funds were being diverted for other crap).
It took a constitutional amendment though...geeesh. Posted by: GMan at May 06, 2015 10:41 AM (sxq57) I like it, although Michigan currently has a constitutional amendment properly voted on by residents in the state that is before the Supreme Court, after being overturned by a judge who felt sorry for his gay law clerk who couldn't adopt a pet, uh, child. Hard to count on that route sticking. Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (EMXR7) 176
>>>> OH GOD, NOT THE BEES, NOT THE BEEEEESSSS!!!!!
Once had a dream where I was in Bali with a film crew doing a documentary on bugs and I was the guy what was covered in bees Woke up screaming? well, sure. Posted by: Bigby's Latex Gloves at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (3ZtZW) 177
are you on that new fangled tweet machine thing all the young kids are telling me about?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (AkOaV) Only to rabble-rouse. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (fwARV) 178
Our laws come from collective agreement and
compromise." *** If that is the case you have *no* rights, as 51% of the populace could decide tomorrow that you don't have a right to speech, or to not have soldiers quartered in your house, or heck to not have to attend sessions to discuss Mao's little red book... Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (78TbK) Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (FsuaD) 180
Ha Ha The moron is so self confident he 'tripled down' on his initial claim, even as he undermined it.
When we fall as a country don't underestimate the entertainment along the way, just as falling off an airplane is also entertaining along the way. Posted by: East Bay Jay at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (7v8o1) 181
Also, Modrate Salami, yes it did happen with different operators. My husband had misfeeds as well when he fired it.
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (F8EBp) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (LA7Cm) 183
Regarding hate speech (which only for the sake of argment will I stipulate as being relevant at all):
Some random, unwashed gimp says, "I will murder you if you draw a picture of Mo." Someone who has a sense of dignity draws a picture of Mo. Which one of these things is actually hate speech? Posted by: revolting peasant who proudly wears his INFIDEL t-shirt in public at May 06, 2015 10:48 AM (nb8KI) 184
Oops. That was me in the bunk.
*smokes cigarette* Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM (JtwS4) Fine. But I get the chocolate chip cookie. Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:48 AM (mf5HN) 185
Cuomo has no principles, no brains. Just Daddy's last name.
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 06, 2015 10:48 AM (2cS/G) 186
dear all the 1st amendment but club,
you are one small step away from agreeing with chris cuomo ![]() have a great day! Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 06, 2015 10:48 AM (0O7c5) 187
I have four (or maybe it's five) magazines, and the misfires are not all from the same one. Unless they're all defective?
Brand? If Mec-Gar, lose them in a lake. Like yesterday. Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:48 AM (5QyYN) 188
What a fucking imbecile.
And how is it that he has a high-paying job and I don't? #WASTF Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 10:14 AM (0HooB) I suspect it's because you can't swallow and smile at the same time. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 06, 2015 10:49 AM (zF6Iw) 189
Honestly, can it be any more obvious? Chelsea Clinton as a 'roving correspondent' on NBC, with a face like Howdy Doody and a brain like a sack of wet cement, 600k a year?
Although, now that Comcast/NBC didn't get their merger with Time Warner, I'm wondering if some of these political hires get the boot. Start shaking, Al Sharpton! Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at May 06, 2015 10:49 AM (DLu2s) 190
No talent ass clown Cuomo
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2015 10:49 AM (JO9+V) 191
>>Hate speech. An Orwellian term for bypassing the First Amendment.
Fighting words--->hate speech--->triggering This will be the slipery-est slope evah in banning wrongthink badwords. Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2015 10:49 AM (2TN4k) 192
Posted by: Dancing Queen at May 06, 2015 10:40 AM (Ol/Jg)
Ha! Fordham wishes they were one of the ivy's. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:49 AM (AkOaV) 193
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (6Poxk)
============================= Holy moly. Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:49 AM (LISuA) 194
Posted by: DangerGirl at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (F8EBp)
For me, the MP40 misfeeds were purely the ammo. Once I upgraded to the cheap stuff (instead of the cheapest on the planet stuff), I had no problems. That trend has held for over 1,000 rounds. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:49 AM (fwARV) Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2015 10:49 AM (g1DWB) 196
Mr. Cuomo, since the moratorium on depicting Mohammad is a tenet of sharia law and the right to freedom of speech is the cornerstone of United States law. To which set of laws as a U.S. citizen am I to follow?
Posted by: wrg500 at May 06, 2015 10:49 AM (kQBSd) 197
"I'm sorry, but that's not true" comes out of me a lot more these days. And it does piss a lot of people off, but then I explain to them that they've been lied to by people who either don't know the truth or are deliberately misleading them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (0HooB) Even this has its limitations with Lefties. I know a woman whose standard response is, "Your alternative narrative is not persuasive." Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 06, 2015 10:50 AM (8W5zZ) 198
I'd love for Pamela Geller to go on Chris' show and draw Mo right there in the studio.
Wonder how the goat rapers would react to CNN, and Chris, in particular? *shifty eyes* Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 10:50 AM (FsuaD) 199
Once had a dream where I was in Bali with a film crew doing a documentary on bugs and I was the guy what was covered in bees
Woke up screaming? well, sure. Posted by: Bigby's Latex Gloves at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (3ZtZW) *shudders* I had a dream a few nights ago where I thought I'd woken up, it was still pitch dark and somebody grabbed my legs. I woke up bolt upright at that point with a YEEARGH!!! Posted by: Insomniac at May 06, 2015 10:50 AM (2Ojst) 200
Chris Cuomo demonstrates that even the lowest bars can be limboed: not ethical enough for the legal profession, not intelligent enough for the journalist profession.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 06, 2015 10:50 AM (nFdGS) 201
Law guy doesn't even understand what "fighting words" are.. Not even that they are not banned or restrained by law...just that if you say it in the specific situation where violence is immediately and personally on the spot provoked, the reaction of the heater may be somewhat excused and you may both be guilty of breach of the peace.
Drawing a cartoon and putting it on display in an exhibition hall is not fighting words Posted by: Sarahw at May 06, 2015 10:51 AM (lv2k0) 202
Someone should investigate this "Fordham University" and see if it's a real place, if it's credentialed properly, and if they encourage their students to lie about the Constitution, make it up as they go along, or neglect to teach it at all!
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 06, 2015 10:51 AM (Gosad) 203
Drawing a cartoon and putting it on display in an exhibition hall is not fighting words
Posted by: Sarahw at May 06, 2015 10:51 AM (lv2k0) SILENCE!!! I KEEL YOU!!! Posted by: Achmed the Dead Terrorist at May 06, 2015 10:51 AM (2Ojst) 204
http://tinyurl.com/kanqclu
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (6Poxk) What the WHAT??!? Posted by: jwpaine at May 06, 2015 10:52 AM (0bXhD) 205
But I get the chocolate chip cookie.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 10:48 AM (mf5HN) ==================== Why, yes! Yes you do get a chocolate chip cookie. Those cookies are right here in my van. Somewhere....just look in the back, you'll find them. Posted by: Creepy Cuomo at May 06, 2015 10:52 AM (LISuA) 206
MTF, yeah. Just to make things more colorful I do wish they had claimed to be an intergalactic police force.
And Kamala Harris is one of the possible future Presidential hopefuls for the Demoncrat Party. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:53 AM (6Poxk) 207
Even this has its limitations with Lefties. I know a woman whose standard response is, "Your alternative narrative is not persuasive."
"Neither is yours, beyotch". Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:53 AM (5QyYN) 208
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 06, 2015 10:50 AM (nFdGS)
Gotta say, I LOVE posting Horde snark on this dildo's twitter feed. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 10:53 AM (fwARV) 209
From Drudge: McConnell wants to "compliment" Obama by moving quickly on fast track authority.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at May 06, 2015 10:53 AM (2EAjI) 210
"Your alternative narrative is not persuasive."
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 06, 2015 10:50 AM (8W5zZ) Yes. I was trying to articulate a point last night about this, but I think I failed. But the left's voters know they're pushing "narratives" and not necessarily, you know, the truth. But they don't care, because they think they are smart (and on the "inside") and we're stupid and we need "narratives" with good guys and bad guys and simplified history to be convinced of our stupidity. So it's all about "who has the more convincing narrative" not "what is true" Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:53 AM (AkOaV) Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 10:54 AM (5QyYN) Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2015 10:54 AM (St6BJ) Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:55 AM (6Poxk) 214
This is the Democrat War on the Constitution.
Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:55 AM (LISuA) 215
my answer would be, "I'm not trying to persuade you, I'm just pointing out your ignorance because that's a thing I like to do, have a nice day."
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 06, 2015 10:55 AM (2cS/G) 216
People that get in pissing matches on Twitter are by definition idiots.
Sorry, ace, you are included. Twitter is for the stupid. It is flash thoughts that never work out. Iowa Hawk should be in charge of the place. Posted by: Nip Sip at May 06, 2015 10:55 AM (0FSuD) 217
>>"Our rights do not come from God, your honor, and you know that. They come from man... That's your faith, that's my faith, but that's not our country. Our laws come from collective agreement and compromise." For serious? Forget what the text actually says... Posted by: Lea at May 06, 2015 10:55 AM (lIU4e) 218
http://tinyurl.com/kanqclu
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (6Poxk) If they had claimed to be from the League of Shadows, now *that* I could respect. Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 06, 2015 10:56 AM (nFdGS) 219
Hate speech. An Orwellian term for bypassing the First Amendment.
Posted by: Mike at May 06, 2015 10:45 AM And part of the reason a metric fuckton of "hate speech" laws exist and are enforced around the country -- despite their obvious unconstitutionality -- is because Our Conservative Betters in elected offices have chosen to be all nicey-nicey and not impeach and/or imprison everyone who has used the Constitution as toilet paper over recent decades. Liberal mouth-breathers couldn't get away with this shit if they were not, to a considerable extent, enabled by our own worthless eunuchs. The law is clear. Enforce it. If that means putting 535 members of Congress, nine "justices" from SCotUS and a so-called President in jail, so be it. Posted by: MrScribbler at May 06, 2015 10:56 AM (P8YHq) 220
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 06, 2015 10:51 AM (Gosad)
expensive leftist school for kids with wealthy parents who were quite smart enough to make it in to a really good school. also, the undergrad campus is in a really shitty neighborhood in the bronx. law school I think is somewhere in manhattan though. I have several family members who graduated from fordham law. One is an "environmental lawyer." Really all I need to say on that subject, I trust. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:56 AM (AkOaV) 221
weren't quite smart*
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 10:57 AM (AkOaV) 222
And Cuomo is still going strong on this.
I'll hand it to him: he's very persistent in making sure we all know he's a clueless idiot. Posted by: @JohnTant` at May 06, 2015 10:57 AM (eytER) 223
Emmett Milbarge, I think in this case we have conclusive proof of what happens when people play Illuminati far too much.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:58 AM (6Poxk) 224
Also, 'drawing a picture of a guy who existed in history'? NOT hate speech by any reasonable definition.
*** It isn't clear whether Iconoclasm was an Islamic thing that created an Orthodox Christian heresy, or an Orthodox Christian heresy that influenced Islam - the trend shows up in Byzantium and the Caliphate at about the same time. But certainly there have been disagreements about Iconoclasm in Islam, and the extreme notion that you can't even show a picture of a religious figure more so... Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2015 10:58 AM (78TbK) 225
I have had this exact same argument with educated people. Stunning. They actually think it's unconstitutional to offend someone. How would that work?
Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at May 06, 2015 10:58 AM (zyapI) 226
Even this has its limitations with Lefties. I know a woman whose standard response is, "Your alternative narrative is not persuasive."
That's another thing: how is it that a growing number of people seem unable to grasp the concept of something being true. I just don't get that. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 10:59 AM (0HooB) 227
I'll hand it to him: he's very persistent in making sure we all know he's a clueless idiot.
Posted by: @JohnTant` at May 06, 2015 10:57 AM (eytER) ========================= He subscribes to the ad hominem school of lefty foot-stomping. Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 10:59 AM (LISuA) 228
>>> I had a dream a few nights ago where I thought I'd woken up, it was still pitch dark and somebody grabbed my legs. I woke up bolt upright at that point with a YEEARGH!!!
Nearly your foot off, if you'd slept with a revolver at the nightstand. OK gotta go look for somebody. BBL Posted by: Bigby's Latex Gloves at May 06, 2015 10:59 AM (3ZtZW) 229
http://tinyurl.com/kanqclu Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 10:46 AM (6Poxk) Knights Templar?? I'm all for bringing back the Crusades. Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 10:59 AM (FsuaD) 230
Cuomo: (if I'm reading this twitter shit correctly.)
No matter how many times you tweet "Chaplinsky", it's still not relevant." It is the only exception to 1a. Which is a) not true and b) retarded, sir and c) unrelated to the point he was ahem trying to make about "hate speech" Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:00 AM (AkOaV) 231
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I have had this exact same argument with educated people. Stunning. They actually think it's unconstitutional to offend someone. How would that work? Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at May 06, 2015 10:58 AM (zyapI) We could use our Founders spinning in their graves as an energy source. Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:00 AM (FsuaD) 232
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 10:59 AM (0HooB)
Because truth is in the eye of the beholder. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:01 AM (AkOaV) 233
I have had this exact same argument with educated people. Stunning. They actually think it's unconstitutional to offend someone. How would that work?
Tell them that their position offends you, so they must commit ritual seppaku. Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 11:01 AM (5QyYN) 234
Someone should ask Chris Cuomo on whether sharia is constitutional.
#popcorn Posted by: @votermom at May 06, 2015 11:01 AM (cbfNE) Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:01 AM (fWAjv) 236
Jane D'Oh they obviously got on their high horses and were carried away.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:01 AM (6Poxk) 237
They actually think it's unconstitutional to offend someone.
*** If the left makes much progress in this space it would be time to enforce a slightly different version of the law in red states. Oh, you called for taking more money from the taxpayers? Sorry that's serious hate speech. Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2015 11:02 AM (78TbK) 238
I have had this exact same argument with educated people. Stunning. They actually think it's unconstitutional to offend someone. How would that work?
Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at May 06, 2015 10:58 AM (zyapI) That's because many people, sadly on both sides, now equate something being Constitutional with something being good and something being Unconstitutional with something being bad. So since mean words are bad they are Unconstitutional. It's. Science. Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 11:02 AM (mf5HN) 239
That's another thing: how is it that a growing number of people seem unable to grasp the concept of something being true.
By being sheltered and never forced to grow a pair and grow up. Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 11:03 AM (5QyYN) 240
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 10:59 AM (0HooB)
The left sees us as a bunch of unthinking mind dead robots getting "misinformation" stuffed in to our skulls by people like Rush Limbaugh. So they have to counter that with their own, um, "information." And they think we're stupid, so they don't care if the information is right or wrong or makes sense, as long as they can spin it into their meta narrative of world history (long story short: human species has evolved, thanks in large part to the democrat party who has done everything good in the world, stymied at times by their arch enemy the republican party who represents all that is bad in the world) Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:03 AM (AkOaV) 241
Life, liberty and to be un-offended.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:03 AM (fWAjv) 242
131 Short answer, the voters in Michigan defeated this
proposal 85% No. Virtually no one believed the BS coming out of Lansing on this proposal. Snyder was still sounding like Baghdad Bob yesterday, claiming that he thought the proposal would pass. It's heartening to see that my fellow Americans in my state, regardless of political bent, continue to have some sense and some fortitude. The Nerd was so wrong.....LOL. Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2015 10:37 AM (EMXR7) Sounds like what happened here. They had a ballot proposal to raise sales tax from 4 cents to 6 cents. (It is now 10.5 cents inside the city limits but all the stores are inide the city limits and I didn't get to vote on this). In any case the original increase was defeated by a 3-1 margin. So what did the county do? They schedule an "off year election three months later and gave all city and county employees the day off. It pass by a 3-1 margin of 1000 voters in a county with 70,000 residents. So watch out for down the road tricks. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2015 11:03 AM (wlDny) 243
First, "hate speech" is a bogus progressive construct. I can see some
future SCOTUS decision on "hate speech" reading like their decision about pornography ... "I know it when I see it." I think you can frame the limits of free speech based on the SCOTUS' definition and usage of "fighting words." The SCOTUS differentiates between "in the heat of the moment" and otherwise. I think if Ms Gellar had tried to hold a "draw the prophet" contest at a mosque, there would have been a case for "in the heat of the moment," but as the SCOTUS says if there is time for the initial emotions of the participants to pass, like in the time it takes to travel to Garland from Phoenix, that there is no defense for those who attempt to commit crimes. Posted by: Bradley Manning at May 06, 2015 11:03 AM (e8kgV) 244
My son is studying for his Constitution test. I'll just tell him to read Cuomo, and answer everything opposite of what he said.
Posted by: Roy at May 06, 2015 11:03 AM (VndSC) 245
Drawing a cartoon is Unconstitutional, yo. Read the Constipation, you wingnuts!
Posted by: Chris "Silver Spoon" Cuomo at May 06, 2015 11:04 AM (2cS/G) 246
239 That's another thing: how is it that a growing number of people seem unable to grasp the concept of something being true.
By being sheltered and never forced to grow a pair and grow up. Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 11:03 AM (5QyYN) Being indoctrinated in the post-modernist viewpoint doesn't help either. Posted by: Insomniac at May 06, 2015 11:04 AM (2Ojst) 247
"Hate speech" is wrong because it presumes to know the person's motivations, what's in their heart. Just because I disagree with you or a politician doesn't mean I HATE you or the politician.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (2TN4k) 248
235 Cassandra Bankson
I'd hit it. I'd hit it. http://tinyurl.com/ooyjt3a Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:01 AM (fWAjv) Well, it's always nice to have a backup. Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (RD7QR) 249
The Constitution does not protect hate speech.
What's that? What is hate speech? Hate speech is any speech that I hate. And that means yours, you Hatey McHaterman. Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (hLRSq) 250
Beating around the issue of whether something "is or isn't hate speech" is an exercise in circular semantics only and will make you go blind.
Whatever the frack a Consensus of Professors of Fascism has defined as "hate speech" has zero legitimacy as a constitutional concept, and must be wholly rejected. But repetition, without outright rejection, of "hate speech" as a phrase is enshrining a wholly unAmerican, unConstitutional concept in the minds of too many, much like the "expectation of privacy" language from a stray Supreme Court opinion has now been repeated by so many, so often as to create a now self-fulfilling prophesy of the death of privacy. Never, ever argue that something "isn't hate speech." The point must always be to reject the concept as borderline meaningless, and to the extent it has any meaning, wholly illegitimate. Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (HEo6y) 251
Because truth is in the eye of the beholder.
Not necessarily. There are a great many objective truths that are considered absolutes. Except to leftards. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (0HooB) 252
Chris Cuomo demonstrates that even the lowest bars can be limboed: not ethical enough for the legal profession, not intelligent enough for the journalist profession.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 06, 2015 10:50 AM (nFdGS) As a friend of mine said about the punchline of a particularly nasty joke: "There is a cornucopia of insult in that statement." Posted by: jwpaine at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (0bXhD) 253
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 06, 2015 11:02 AM (mf5HN)
What I don't get is why people act like the Constitution is some shakespearean play written in an unfamiliar cadence and requiring a whole afternoon to sit down and read, occasionally looking words up in a dictionary. It's a short, easy to read document written in our vernacular. You could read it cover to cover in, what, 20-30 minutes? And you should be able to understand pretty much every word it in with only an 8th grade reading level. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (AkOaV) 254
Our laws may come from collective agreement and compromise, but human Rights don't come from laws. They pre-exist any societal construct, and whether you want to attribute them to God or Nature or whatever is mostly irrelevant.
So, apparently, Cuomo is a moron, and not the good kind. Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (/Ho8c) 255
Olbermann used to call Bush a war criminal, a fascist and the worst person in the world constantly. Can we charge him with a hate crime or beat him with sticks?
I'd prefer beating him with sticks if that's ok. Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (g1DWB) 256
From ace's post yesterday about Pam Geller (Megan Kelly vs BOR):
It is a class which is deathly afraid of social stigma, and lives in class-based fear being grouped with the wrong people, and which is more interested in Career, quite frankly, than in the actual tradecraft of that Career, which is clarity of thought and clarity of expression. Horde, I give you, Chris Cuomo. Nice going BenK Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2015 11:05 AM (JO9+V) 257
Ok, I'll bite.
"Hate Speech" is anything that supports leftism, leftist candidates, initiatives, and organizations OR that which denigrates American conservatism, Judaism, or Christianity. There. That should work for Mister "Oh shit what if I lose" Cuomo. Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 06, 2015 11:06 AM (FCuM7) 258
Hate Speech is anything a democrat/fascist doesn't agree with.
When the power swings back to conservatives free speech will again be free speech for democrats/fascists to get their POV out. Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 06, 2015 11:07 AM (TV9BR) 259
In Ferguson, truth was in the eye of the E. Holder.
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 06, 2015 11:07 AM (2cS/G) 260
I didn't realize the tweets' responses would be so hilarious. "Do you even law, bro?" Good to know we're not alone.
Posted by: t-bird at May 06, 2015 11:07 AM (FcR7P) 261
You don't have the right to say anything I don't want you to say. And so must suffer. That's true freedom of speech!!!1111!!! Posted by: Ignorant Progtard Nazi at May 06, 2015 11:07 AM (0cMkb) 262
My respect for lawyers is near an all-time low.
Posted by: Y-not at May 06, 2015 11:07 AM (9BRsg) 263
So, Morning... I see nothings changed...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 06, 2015 11:08 AM (Bn6aD) Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2015 11:08 AM (St6BJ) 265
Don't get the stupid on you Ben. It's contagious.
How come Leftists are such pathological liars alwasy trying to twist truth and reality into their personal fantasies? Posted by: Marcus T at May 06, 2015 11:08 AM (GGCsk) 266
Also, Modrate Salami, yes it did happen with different operators. My husband had misfeeds as well when he fired it.
Posted by: DangerGirl OK, that probably isolates any grip issues. Different ammo probably rules out low-powered rounds (provided some of the misfeeds happen with both HP FMJ). Sounds like it's probably not the mags, either. Could be a problem with the feed ramp like rickb223 suggested. Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 06, 2015 11:08 AM (/Ho8c) 267
FIRST AMENDMENT:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Chris you ignorant lying turd smoker, read it Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at May 06, 2015 11:08 AM (TV9BR) 268
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:01 AM (fWAjv)
============================= ISWYDT Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 11:09 AM (LISuA) 269
When the power swings back to conservatives free speech will again be free speech for democrats/fascists to get their POV out.
Hate speech laws will be shoved down their throats with thousands of pairs of jackboots. Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 11:09 AM (5QyYN) 270
Cuomo is floundering.
He needs backup. Where are the SJW's to tell us that the constitution is patriarchal and seeped in white privilege and that to even quote it is triggering to them? That should shut those stupid conservatives and constitutiony people up! Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:09 AM (AkOaV) 271
the Constitution is some shakespearean play written in an unfamiliar
cadence and requiring a whole afternoon to sit down and read, occasionally looking words up in a dictionary. ___ Dude, its like 100 years old. Who can read that stuff? Posted by: Ezra Klein at May 06, 2015 11:10 AM (78TbK) 272
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican
You left out the part that says: You can't say stuff that hurts people's feelings, makes them mad, or insults the Prophet (PBUH). Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 06, 2015 11:10 AM (/Ho8c) 273
When "group defamation" ("hate speech" by another name) gets going it quickly places entire political issues off limits, e.g. you can't seriously debate immigration in the UK anymore without an actual risk of criminal prosecution ("defaming" groups by race, ethnicity, etc)
Result? Only The Gubmint (TM) may pass on issues such as immigration quotas and policy, that the subjects are forbidden to discuss. Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 06, 2015 11:10 AM (HEo6y) 274
Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 06, 2015 11:10 AM (kff5f) 275
Jesus. Case law vs. the constitution. Is this guy also a constitutional law prof like TFG?
Posted by: NCKate at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (HbHb5) 276
MFM Delenda Est
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (kff5f) 277
The Constitution maybe an easy ready, but the cultural foundations that underpin it are now foreign to the current generation of voters. It might as well be in Klingon.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (6Poxk) 278
Just because I disagree with you or a politician doesn't mean I HATE you or the politician.
What if you did? Why should it matter to the law? If that was the standard everything Liberals say about conservatives would be "hate speech." Posted by: Socratease at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (2GbWn) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (kff5f) 280
It's just a flesh wound.
Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (JO9+V) 281
Cuomo is down to "proximity" and "speech reasonably would incite violence." The man has no idea what he is saying. Beat up a few flag burners or homosexual pride parade members and his "high bar" is easily jumped. Of course as Ace says, it's all about the Tribe.
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (nRvEn) 282
That demands double-face-palm. Seriously, as someone on the thread of tweets said: "fail harder."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (kff5f) 283
You don't NEED adjectives, and they make people uncomfortable.
Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (HEo6y) 284
In case you missed the pattern.
There is no hypocrisy involved here. The Left clearly believes in "free speech" except when it offends a group that is likely to respond with guns because you can't 'win' by calling them racists. It also explains why the Left so wants gun control. Posted by: Ellen DeGeneres at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (e8kgV) 285
And you should be able to understand pretty much every word it in with only an 8th grade reading level.
There's your sign... Ripley was right. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 11:12 AM (0HooB) 286
Mark Steyn has a great anecdote in one of his books about a tourist in a karaoke bar singing "Kung Fu Fighting" when some asian guy walked past the bar, felt offended, and called the cops. Tourist was arrested and charged with hate speech for offending the asian.
That's where the left would like us to be. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:12 AM (AkOaV) 287
Steyns anecdote took place in the UK** (should have specified that)
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:12 AM (AkOaV) 288
More proof, as if any were needed, that being a liberal means shielding your brain from knowledge.
I've been re-reading John Christopher's "Tripod" series, and being "Capped" in those books is exactly like becoming a liberal. It's uncanny. Posted by: Null at May 06, 2015 11:12 AM (xjpRj) Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet validates insecurities, hang-ups, neuroses, and parking! at May 06, 2015 11:12 AM (hLRSq) 290
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And Cuomo is still going strong on this. I'll hand it to him: he's very persistent in making sure we all know he's a clueless idiot. Posted by: @JohnTant` at May 06, 2015 10:57 AM (eytER) Just like his dad. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, etc. Posted by: Nip Sip at May 06, 2015 11:13 AM (0FSuD) 291
Glue eater. Boy I sure hope he doesn't practice law. I pity the poor bastards who become his clients.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 06, 2015 11:13 AM (GGCsk) 292
Ripley was right.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 11:12 AM (0HooB) What, when he said "believe it or not?" ![]() Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:13 AM (AkOaV) 293
When "group defamation" ("hate speech" by another name) gets going it quickly places entire political issues off limits, e.g. you can't seriously debate immigration in the UK anymore without an actual risk of criminal prosecution ("defaming" groups by race, ethnicity, etc)
Result? Only The Gubmint (TM) may pass on issues such as immigration quotas and policy, that the subjects are forbidden to discuss. Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 06, 2015 11:10 AM (HEo6y) Result: England allows Muslims to rape and groom for rape hundreds of children over a period of years. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 11:13 AM (fwARV) Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2015 11:13 AM (g1DWB) Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2015 11:13 AM (2TN4k) 296
Chelsea Clinton is the p'oh Clinton, at 600 large a year from NBC. Bill gets that and an hour of grab ass with the attendees for a speech.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at May 06, 2015 11:13 AM (7v8o1) 297
A contemptible and dangerous man.
Posted by: rrpjr at May 06, 2015 11:14 AM (s/yC1) 298
Sorta-kinda-emanations-penumbras is how the Left views everything, I think they call it 'nuance' or 'grays' or 'living document' or something.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 06, 2015 11:14 AM (oVJmc) 299
>> "Do you even law, bro?" Ha. Dangergirl clearly doesn't like the gun, right? So get something else. And that reminds me, I need to get to the range because I have two guns I've never shot in the closet... Posted by: Lea at May 06, 2015 11:14 AM (lIU4e) Posted by: SGTYork at May 06, 2015 11:14 AM (/yNLK) Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 11:14 AM (5QyYN) 302
I'm sure someone's already said it, but apparently Chris Cuomo now thinks that drawing a cartoon of mohammad (may feces be upon him) is "hate speech" and/or "fighting words".
So, that's where the left is now. Islam is their official religion and they will defend it. Posted by: Monkeytoe at May 06, 2015 11:15 AM (3ZtZW) 303
Quick. Somebody check the Cuomo household for partially eaten lead paint chips.
Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 06, 2015 11:15 AM (JO9+V) Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 06, 2015 11:15 AM (Bn6aD) 305
Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at May 06, 2015 11:11 AM (nRvEn)
He woke up this morning with no idea what the constitution says, and has been feverishly reading wikipedia to try to spin his way out of his stupid statement. So now he's on to the part about "proximity" in the fighting words carve out from Chaplinsky. Give him a few more minutes and he'll get to the part of the wiki article where it explains how stupid that SCOTUS decision was (assuming it does, I'm too lazy to check wiki) Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:15 AM (AkOaV) 306
I'm not a lawyer or do I play one on TV, however I know quite a few.
It has been my experience when talking to them*, especially on political subjects and the Constitution, that they indeed do believe that SCOTUS rulings are the "Constitution." It has also been my impression that they believe the original document coupled with stated intent (as found in the Federalist Papers and other writings) is, in a way, superseded by said SCOTUS rulings. Hence, we end up with bullshittery such as "separation of church and State" and a right to murder the unborn. *Those that I know are libs/Dems/Leftists. Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 06, 2015 11:16 AM (vg8iE) 307
What, when he said "believe it or not?"
Nyuk nyuk. Nope, the other one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPa5oVG-nII Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 11:16 AM (0HooB) 308
I've never shot in the closet...
Posted by: Lea at May 06, 2015 11:14 AM (lIU4e) I think you're doing it wrong... Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:16 AM (AkOaV) 309
the Constitution is some shakespearean play written in an unfamiliar cadence
Imagine if we could get Congress to draft us a new Constitution, version 2.0. With chairperson Nancy Pelosi in charge, that would be an inscrutable document. And heavy. Very heavy. Posted by: t-bird at May 06, 2015 11:16 AM (FcR7P) 310
I need to get to the range because I have two guns I've never shot in the closet...
Posted by: Lea at May 06, 2015 11:14 AM (lIU4e) You're not supposed to shoot them in the closet anyway. Posted by: Insomniac at May 06, 2015 11:17 AM (2Ojst) 311
Never, ever argue that something "isn't hate speech."
Exactly. Don't buy the premise to begin with. It's a linguistic and conceptual Frankenstein stitch-up like "economic rights" and "social justice." Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at May 06, 2015 11:17 AM (QKIQb) Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 06, 2015 11:17 AM (W5DcG) 313
The First Amendment free exercise of religion is not a suicide pact with fuggin' islam.
Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at May 06, 2015 11:18 AM (ucB75) Posted by: Lea at May 06, 2015 11:18 AM (lIU4e) 315
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 06, 2015 11:16 AM (vg8iE)
"Separation of church and state" comes from a Jefferson letter to Methodists (IIRC) in Danbury CT and has nothing to do with any body of law or court decisions I know of. I don't know how or why I know that, but I feel pretty confident I didn't just make that up. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:18 AM (AkOaV) 316
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Uh oh. Iowahawk is getting in on the Cuomo beat down. This is not going to end well for Chris. Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2015 11:13 AM (g1DWB) Iowahawk brings the bitch slapping to the table. Oh no, Chris just said......... http://tinyurl.com/k7yjx5e Posted by: Nip Sip at May 06, 2015 11:18 AM (0FSuD) 317
I need to get to the range because I have two guns I've never shot in the closet... -- Shooting them in the closet isn't a good idea. The distance is too short to judge accuracy. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 06, 2015 11:18 AM (eGmvn) 318
Have at you!
Posted by: Chris Cuomo at May 06, 2015 11:18 AM (JO9+V) 319
apparently Chris Cuomo now thinks that drawing a cartoon of mohammad (may feces be upon him) is "hate speech" and/or "fighting words".
Hey, Chris, that copy of the Constitution you're reading? Yeah, it's actually the Koran. Posted by: t-bird at May 06, 2015 11:18 AM (FcR7P) 320
Chris Cuomo now thinks that drawing a cartoon of mohammad (may feces be upon him) is "hate speech" and/or "fighting words".
"Now?" The Left has always thought this. Well, maybe not about the Pedophile Mohammed (piss be upon him), but in general. The entire *idea* of Hate Speech is essentially "speech control." By labeling anything they don't like as "hate speech" they declare it off limits. Of course, the law exempts them (in fact, if not in writing) from the rules regarding "hate speech" because: "press." (This is another facet of why they hate "just a blogger"s- if bloggers count as the press, then their attempts to regulate speech completely fail). Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 06, 2015 11:18 AM (kff5f) Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 06, 2015 11:18 AM (Bn6aD) 322
" I have two guns I've never shot in the closet..."
Yeah, I don't ever shoot any of my guns in the closet. Is this a new thing? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 06, 2015 11:19 AM (LA7Cm) 323
The only speech that is not protected is threats of violence when it is clearly a threat.
And imminent. I can make all kinds of threats about The Fire Next Time, including murder, as long as it's some indeterminate time in the future. Posted by: toby928(C) at May 06, 2015 11:19 AM (evdj2) 324
Wait - are you saying there is no
"Article XCIIVwhatever: FEEWINGS"? Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 06, 2015 11:19 AM (ompLI) 325
The sort of comment I would expect from Constitutional law expert Obama.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 06, 2015 11:20 AM (F2IAQ) 326
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 06, 2015 11:19 AM (LA7Cm)
...trying to come up with a "come out of the closet" joke... nope, got nothing. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:20 AM (AkOaV) 327
An aide to state Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris and two others are accused of operating a rogue police force that claimed to exist for more than 3,000 years and have jurisdiction in 33 states and Mexico, authorities said Tuesday.
Brandon Kiel, David Henry and Tonette Hayes were arrested last week on suspicion of impersonating a police officer through their roles in the Masonic Fraternal Police Department, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Posted by: Indiana Jones at May 06, 2015 11:20 AM (e8kgV) 328
I watched 'Kingsman' last night. In it they depicted a Christian church as a neo-nazi cult. Is that banned hate speech, Andrew?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 06, 2015 11:20 AM (oVJmc) 329
Isn't Cumo the fcuking Governor of NY? Why the fcuk is he on twitter. Did anyone mention to him the Democrat Speaker of the House is in Jail and The Republican leader of the Senate is in jail.
I would think he would have more pressing things to do. Posted by: Nip Sip at May 06, 2015 11:21 AM (0FSuD) 330
I assume someone has asked CC if Mapplethorpe and Serrano were speech criminals, too?
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 06, 2015 11:22 AM (2cS/G) 331
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 06, 2015 11:21 AM (0FSuD)
Chris is a CNN personality. His old man was a governor of NY. And his shitty brother is the current governor of NY. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:22 AM (AkOaV) 332
Chris is a CNN personality.
His old man was a governor of NY. And his shitty brother is the current governor of NY. Apple tree... Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 06, 2015 11:22 AM (Bn6aD) 333
His brother, incidentally, was the one who came up with the brilliant ad campaign in the Cuomo v Koch mayoral race of
"vote for Cuomo, not the homo" which to this day is one of my favorite political lines ever. Just so... ah, liberal tolerance. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:22 AM (AkOaV) Posted by: toby928(C) at May 06, 2015 11:23 AM (evdj2) 335
Junior, thanks for reminding the Horde about Kamala Harris' minions and their dubious grasp on reality and responsibilities.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:23 AM (6Poxk) 336
335 Junior, thanks for reminding the Horde about Kamala Harris' minions and their dubious grasp on reality and responsibilities.
OMG, what a piece of work She is... Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 06, 2015 11:24 AM (Bn6aD) 337
Boy the First Amendment and Chaplinsky Wiki must be burning up from Cuomo hitting it.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 06, 2015 11:24 AM (GGCsk) 338
Shooting them in the closet isn't a good idea. The distance is too short to judge accuracy.
CQB training? I've seen some pretty big walk in closets. Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 11:25 AM (5QyYN) 339
Dangergirl, don't post much, but I do shoot a lot, including competition. I may have written about shooting a time or two.
That said, sounds like the gun and the operator are not well matched. Best suggestion is to either find a shop that rents guns and try out several, or, if you know someone who has a bunch of different firearms, see if they will let you try a few. One thing to remember, don't get caught up in caliber. Buy the gun you like to shoot, not the one that has "more stopping power." It's all well and good to own a 44 magnum that will "blow a head clean off" but if you're unwilling to practice with a large caliber handgun then it's not much use. Posted by: Blake at May 06, 2015 11:25 AM (DQWTl) 340
Well, let's be honest here - he wasn't hired for his legal expertise, but for his last name.
Posted by: PT Barnum at May 06, 2015 11:25 AM (VKFEZ) 341
Cuomo is doing what the Left always do when called out. Deflect, conflate, and sometimes, refuse to acknowledge that they ever said it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 06, 2015 11:25 AM (F2IAQ) 342
It's at times like this when I really miss the social commentary stylings of Sam Kinison
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2015 11:25 AM (JO9+V) 343
my friends, you have nothing to fear with Chris Cuomo on the supreme court.
Posted by: John McCain at May 06, 2015 11:25 AM (/eTPT) 344
Why do I keep hearing Forrest Gump saying 'I am not a smart man.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:25 AM (fWAjv) 345
Pappy O'Neil that church in Kingsmen is accepted as being a stand in for Westboro Baptist and the Phucking Phelps Phlan.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:25 AM (6Poxk) 346
Well, let's be honest here - he wasn't hired for his legal expertise, but for his last name.
Posted by: PT Barnum -------------------- You're trying to make this about me, aren't you? Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 06, 2015 11:26 AM (F2IAQ) 347
Oh man. Call the paramedics, Chris Cuomo is getting slaughtered.
Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at May 06, 2015 11:26 AM (KNsfV) 348
So the Fraternal Masonic Police Department actually did something or is it just a fraternal organization with odd ritual paraphernalia and non-freemason rites?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2015 11:26 AM (t//F+) 349
I assume someone has asked CC if Mapplethorpe and Serrano were speech criminals, too?
Can someone that twits axe him? Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 11:26 AM (5QyYN) 350
Lets compare this Cuomo tweet:
For last time (today), I didn't mean the language of 1A, I meant the case law. And hate speech has been protected except for fighting words. With the original tweet. Hmmmmmmm........ Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:27 AM (AkOaV) 351
oh, and "fighting words" again, is a different concept and a different justification (its still wrong) than "hate speech."
But he just came full circle. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:28 AM (AkOaV) 352
347 Oh man. Call the paramedics, Chris Cuomo is getting slaughtered.
Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at May 06, 2015 11:26 AM (KNsfV) Backtracking fast. Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:28 AM (fWAjv) 353
Kindltot they apparently thought they were so special super they sent to actual LEO's a little letter telling the LEOs about their organization.
When sheriff's department searched two sites in Santa Clarita; weapons badges, and uniforms were found. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:28 AM (6Poxk) 354
"For last time (today), I didn't mean the language of 1A, I meant the case law. And hate speech has been protected except for fighting words."
Yet, you told people to go and read the Constitution??? Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM (fWAjv) 355
For sh*ts and giggles. Andrew Cuomo's live-in, Sandra Lee's, infamous Kwanzaa cake:
http://tinyurl.com/bqnqjrs Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM (FsuaD) 356
Just as the second amendment says 'shall not be infringed but may be regulated'.
Posted by: Hondo Phrestrae at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM (i5zvT) 357
Think how much better off we'd all be if the old man just became a
mediocre utility infielder for the Pirates instead of governor of New York and inflicted his spawn on all of us. Posted by: tu3031 at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM (YFFpo) 358
Chris is a CNN personality.
His old man was a governor of NY. And his shitty brother is the current governor of NY. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:22 AM (AkOaV) So, a nest of whops? I denounce myself. Posted by: Nip Sip at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM (0FSuD) 359
Warren met privately with 'Draft Warren' supporters
The Massachusetts senator recently huddled with progressives affiliated with the campaign urging her to run for president. Her office insists she was unaware of any connection. Posted by: Elijah Muhammad at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM (e8kgV) 360
If drawing of Muhammed are hate speech, does that mean that the Supreme Court is a Hate Building? Muhammed is on there as one of the medieval lawgivers.
Posted by: buzzion at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM (zt+N6) 361
"Chris Cuomo is getting slaughtered."
He starts this screed by telling everyone to read the Constitution and now is claiming he never meant the First Amendment. Da fuq? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 06, 2015 11:30 AM (LA7Cm) 362
He went from this:
it doesn't. hate speech is excluded from protection. dont just say you love the constitution...read it to this: For last time (today), I didn't mean the language of 1A, I meant the case law. And hate speech has been protected except for fighting words. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:30 AM (AkOaV) 363
Semi OT, but what's up with the background image on Cuomo's twitter page? It looks like he's contemplating the empty space inside of his head.
Posted by: @JohnTant` at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (eytER) 364
For last time (today), I didn't mean the language of 1A, I meant the case law. And hate speech has been protected except for fighting words.
Case law? F**k the case law... Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (Bn6aD) 365
thats the kind of shit you'll see in blog comments with people working their thoughts out.
not from a lawyer / "journalist" with a huge platform. Typically. Would have been easier to just say "#hacked!" like Weiner then to try to defend yourself. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (AkOaV) 366
Chris Cuomo, proving that my left nipple is smarter than he is.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (6Poxk) 367
Never question your betters, peasants!
Posted by: tu3031 at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (YFFpo) 368
For sh*ts and giggles. Andrew Cuomo's live-in, Sandra Lee's, infamous Kwanzaa cake:
http://tinyurl.com/bqnqjrs Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM (FsuaD) Her baker's rack. Impressive. Most impressive. Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (JO9+V) 369
Even this has its limitations with Lefties. I know a woman whose standard response is, "Your alternative narrative is not persuasive." Unfortunatyely for you it's the facts, it's reality. Ignore at your own peril. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (1JqUE) 370
"For last time (today), I didn't mean the language of 1A, I meant the case law. And hate speech has been protected except for fighting words."
The last time a critter chased his own tail that fast, he turned into butter. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (0HooB) 371
Was it Cuomo who had that gawd awful Christmas tree?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (fWAjv) 372
Chaplinsky is a fine example of the old adage that bad cases make for bad laws. It looks like SCOTUS was looking for a reason to uphold his arrest.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (wlDny) Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:32 AM (fWAjv) 374
For sh*ts and giggles. Andrew Cuomo's live-in, Sandra Lee's, infamous Kwanzaa cake:
------------------ That cake is..., white! Can't be served without a trigger warning...., and may constitute hate speech. Wait...., that's it..., it's a Hate Cake. Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 06, 2015 11:33 AM (F2IAQ) 375
Well, let's be honest here - he wasn't hired for his legal expertise, but for his last name.
Posted by: PT Barnum -------------------- You're trying to make this about me, aren't you? Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 06, 2015 11:26 AM (F2IAQ) Don't be silly, what's in a name? Now look into my eyes, while I croon at you. Posted by: Ronan Farrow at May 06, 2015 11:33 AM (TOk1P) 376
Warren met privately with 'Draft Warren' supporters
The Massachusetts senator recently huddled with progressives affiliated with the campaign urging her to run for president. Her office insists she was unaware of any connection. Posted by: Elijah Muhammad at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM And so it begins... Posted by: RedMindBlueState, In before that guy who always thinks it's beginning at May 06, 2015 11:34 AM (h4vJk) 377
>>For sh*ts and giggles. Andrew Cuomo's live-in, Sandra Lee's, infamous Kwanzaa cake: This ought to be good! Is that plump a bunch of canned, boxed stuff in and call it a day sandra lee? Posted by: Lea at May 06, 2015 11:34 AM (lIU4e) 378
For last time (today), I didn't mean the language of 1A, I meant the
case law. And hate speech has been protected except for fighting words. -mynewhandle ===== Even for a Cuomo, that's weak sh*t. Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2015 11:35 AM (JBggj) 379
Someone should Tweet Sandra asking if she has ever made any Hawai'ian Spam dishes.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:35 AM (6Poxk) 380
The last time a critter chased his own tail that fast, he turned into butter.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy ---------------- Oh man..., cultural appropriation! cultural appropriation! * throws flag * Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 06, 2015 11:35 AM (F2IAQ) 381
Dont get me started on the Mystery Cult of the Constitution aka SCOTUS.
We need a Martin Luther of the Constitution. Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 06, 2015 11:35 AM (HEo6y) 382
Her baker's rack. Impressive. Most impressive.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (JO9+V) I'd let her rub that cake all over me and then we would do anal. She love it. Posted by: Nip Sip at May 06, 2015 11:36 AM (0FSuD) 383
The Supreme Court once said that hate speech not protected by the First Amendment in Beauharnais v. Illinois:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauharnais_v._Illinois It was based on a "group libel" theory and after New York Times v. Sullivan, it isn't good law. It has not, however, been overturned and I wonder if anti-speech fanatics will try to resurrect B v. I under a different theory. Posted by: Tim at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (gI4Je) 384
Should it be at all disconcerting that a lawyer / journalist / heir apparent to a political dynasty has spent the first 45 years of his life thinking that there is a constitutional ban on "hate speech" and that it is not protected by the 1st amendment?
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (AkOaV) 385
One of the lesser known atrocities in the Michigan referendum fiasco was that revenue raisers (higher sales tax, higher fuel taxes, higher auto registration fees) all of course begin immediately. Money for roads (only 40% of the new revenues), however would first pay off older bonds and in TWO YEARS money would be allocated for new repairs. Also, some news outlets actually were reporting on the total lack of oversight by the state Dept of Transportation to shoddy repairs. Just a total FUBAR that the politicians tried to foist on us.
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (02oLK) 386
And you thought only the fringe lefties think everything they do not like is "like shouting fire in a crowded theater". Think again. That is mainstream lefty thought.
Posted by: Rob at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (+pz/4) 387
Oh man..., cultural appropriation! cultural appropriation!
* throws flag * And the worst part is, now I'm hungry for pancakes. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (0HooB) 388
371
Was it Cuomo who had that gawd awful Christmas tree? Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (fWAjv) That would be Andrew's drunken/retarded girlfriend, Sandra Lee. She's done a Christmas tree adorned with cocktail glasses, and AtC linked one from a couple of years ago with a large, silver lion or something under the tree. Because nothing says, "Happy Birthday, Baby Jesus!" like a tree adorned with barware or a silver feline under the tree. Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (FsuaD) 389
"That's another thing: how is it that a growing number of people seem unable to grasp the concept of something being true." Backwords Boy, they don't WANT to face reality and you cannot make them. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 06, 2015 11:38 AM (1JqUE) 390
And don't forget their favorite "yell fire in a theater."
Which is dicta, utterly discredited, not even the author stood by it for long and the case wherein cited was specifically overruled. But that doesn't stop the little fucking fascists from spouting it to justify restrictions on political speech. This is part and parcel with their magical incantation of "unsafe." Same fucking bullshit from the same fucking cowards and bullies. Posted by: RoyalOil at May 06, 2015 11:38 AM (ZvKdv) 391
Now Cuomo is seemingly backing down. He's saying he meant case law, not the Constitution. And he's agreeing most hate speech isn't covered under "fighting words" judicial carve-out.
Victory is Ben's. Now, dance! Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 11:39 AM (LISuA) 392
AtC ripping Cuomo a new ass on twatter.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2015 11:39 AM (5QyYN) Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 06, 2015 11:40 AM (Bn6aD) 394
Because nothing says, "Happy Birthday, Baby Jesus!" like a tree adorned with barware or a silver feline under the tree.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (FsuaD) Yep. Linked it at 373 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:40 AM (fWAjv) 395
Because nothing says, "Happy Birthday, Baby Jesus!" like a tree adorned with barware or a silver feline under the tree.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (FsuaD) ======================== Oh, I don't know....throw in a few slinky women scantily dressed as elves or whatever and I could go for it. Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2015 11:40 AM (LISuA) 396
Because nothing says, "Happy Birthday, Baby Jesus!" like a tree adorned with barware or a silver feline under the tree.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (FsuaD) Or a White House "Holiday" tree with a Mao ornament. Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2015 11:40 AM (JBggj) 397
I'd let her rub that cake all over me and then we would do anal.
She love it. Posted by: Nip Sip at May 06, 2015 11:36 AM (0FSuD) No. You wouldn't. She likes black guys. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 11:40 AM (fwARV) 398
Someone post an updated Twitthing link, please.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2015 11:41 AM (JO9+V) 399
Think through the whole constitution. Is there a single part of it that would pass congress today? One clause, one section? One amendment?
Even the ones that seem obvious would face opposition. 13th amendment prohibits slavery, slam dunk right? But there's an exception in there for people who've been convicted of a crime - we force prisoners to work without compensation or escape. Many prisoners are black. RACISM, SLAVERY, H8!!!!! None of it would pass. None of it. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 06, 2015 11:42 AM (39g3+) 400
Backwords Boy, they don't WANT to face reality and you cannot make them.
Yeah, that's the feeling I get. It makes me sad for my friends. But then again, it's written somewhere that the blind will lead the blind and there's not much that can be done about it. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at May 06, 2015 11:42 AM (0HooB) 401
And the worst part is, now I'm hungry for pancakes.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy -------------------------------- You're going to have to round up a couple of tigers. Get it? "Round up".... Sometimes I crack myself up. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 06, 2015 11:42 AM (F2IAQ) Posted by: Garrett at May 06, 2015 11:42 AM (zcpBx) 403
Because nothing says, "Happy Birthday, Baby Jesus!" like a tree adorned with barware or a silver feline under the tree. Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (FsuaD) Holy Crap! Is that a tiger??? Today we celebrate the day baby jesus was eaten by a tiger. Posted by: Lea at May 06, 2015 11:42 AM (lIU4e) Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:42 AM (fWAjv) 405
"That's another thing: how is it that a growing number of people seem unable to grasp the concept of something being true."
Backwords Boy, they don't WANT to face reality and you cannot make them. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 06, 2015 11:38 AM (1JqUE) Serious answer? Conflict Theory. Which in a nutshell is a form of social "research" that gives rise to all the isms you know and love. The basic premise is that objective "reality" is only one form of reality, and the subjective narratives of the many, especially the "oppressed" are valued more than YOUR objective reality, which comes from your place of privilege. This language is being taught to wide swaths of the culture, and it is being embraced as a legitimate viewpoint. More legitimate than your objective reality precisely because... well, you know why. Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2015 11:42 AM (TOk1P) 406
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2015 11:41 AM (JO9+V)
just google twitter @chriscuomo also, nothing new from him. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:42 AM (AkOaV) 407
>>Should it be at all disconcerting that a lawyer / journalist / heir
apparent to a political dynasty has spent the first 45 years of his life thinking that there is a constitutional ban on "hate speech" and that it is not protected by the 1st amendment? Equally, if not more jarring, that he believes our rights don't emanate from God, but from man - via consensus and compromise. Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2015 11:43 AM (2TN4k) 408
Posted by: Garrett at May 06, 2015 11:42 AM (zcpBx)
Yeah, surprised his family connections couldnt get him in to ivy league. he must have bombed the lsats. Clearly, "the law" isn't really his thing anyways. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:44 AM (AkOaV) 409
'this contemporary rendition of a tiger in simple repose captures the power and intellect in its eyes.'
And now for the birth of our Lord and Savior. Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:44 AM (fWAjv) 410
What difference, at this point, does it make?1//1/1!?!?1!!?/1??//? Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (HSmrB) 411
Equally, if not more jarring, that he believes our rights don't emanate from God, but from man - via consensus and compromise.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2015 11:43 AM (2TN4k) Everyone on the left believes that. Another CNN infobabe (I think she worked for CNN) went on a twitter rant recently on how stupid conservatives are to say our constitutional rights come "from god", because duh of course they come from government. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (AkOaV) 412
Backwords Boy, they don't WANT to face reality and you cannot make them.
----------------- There is a Biblical proscription regarding pearls and swine. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (F2IAQ) 413
For guys brought up and steeped in the left, the constitution is a horrible, ancient, useless old document we've long evolved past but they aren't quite coming out and saying it yet. Every once in a while one lets it slip, but not often.
They hate it, and everything about it. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (39g3+) 414
The Beauharnais case ruling was based on libel, not hate speech. Libel is not protected per the ruling.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (wlDny) 415
For sh*ts and giggles. Andrew Cuomo's live-in, Sandra Lee's, infamous Kwanzaa cake:
http://tinyurl.com/bqnqjrs Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:29 AM (FsuaD) Looks like something 14 year olds would make in Home Econ. class. Love the cheap, Odd Lots candles. Also noticed how Christmasy. Kwanzaa like it is outside Sandra's window. June or July I would guess. Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (EMXR7) 416
nood ace
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (AkOaV) 417
My new battle-cry for when I'm completely wrong about something. For example,
"Mr. Cake, the moon is not made of cheese." "Chaplinsky!!!!!" Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (ppaKI) 418
Chris sure has been getting smacked around a lot lately; sorta like Harry Reid in a room full of prepubescent exercise bands.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (5KIZu) 419
I think the old man went to Fordham, so he was a legacy. Like Flounder in Animal House.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 06, 2015 11:46 AM (YFFpo) Posted by: Garrett at May 06, 2015 11:46 AM (zcpBx) 421
It's official, liberals hate Republicans more than they do Isis.
Posted by: David at May 06, 2015 11:46 AM (icceP) 422
You know what Baltimore needs!
Intervention by the DOJ! Baltimore's mayor announced Wednesday that she had asked the Department of Justice to investigate whether the city's police department has acted unconstitutionally. 'Throughout my administration, we have taken a number of steps to change the culture and practices of the Baltimore Police Department,' Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (D) said. ----- Democrats. Making things better, daily. Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2015 11:46 AM (fWAjv) 423
Same ditz who said rights are endowed by government, right?
Somebody needs to get his law school money back. Posted by: red speck at May 06, 2015 11:46 AM (9/Ug/) 424
Posted by: tu3031 at May 06, 2015 11:46 AM (YFFpo)
I mean *I* could get in to and go to fordham law school. If being the son of a governor can't get you in to a better school then *I* can get in to, then the gig kind of sucks, doesnt it? Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:47 AM (AkOaV) 425
Imagine the fun we'd have with Sandra Lee as FLOTUS. We'd laugh ourselves to death as what's left of the nation finished swirling down the toilet.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 06, 2015 11:47 AM (FsuaD) 426
https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/595972475986563072
I think he's quit responding altogether. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 06, 2015 11:47 AM (LA7Cm) 427
I have four (or maybe it's five) magazines, and the misfires are not all from the same one. Unless they're all defective? I've tried different ammo, same result. I can't remember what the stuff I read said the problem was, either. Oh and another thing I hate about it is that it ejects the casings backwards into my face. Had one get stuck between my temple and safety glasses arm. I'd take it to a gunsmith if I liked the weight and grip, but I don't so... I'm sure you know this, but the most common cause of misfeeds in automatics is holding the pistol too loosely. The fact that one of the spent cartridges struck you in the head indicates that the pistol moving around in the hand in an uncontrolled manner may be the problem. Posted by: An Observation at May 06, 2015 11:47 AM (qWU22) 428
Another CNN infobabe (I think she worked for CNN) went on a twitter rant recently on how stupid conservatives are to say our constitutional rights come "from god", because duh of course they come from government.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:45 AM (AkOaV) Look, this is simple for them. Words only mean what they say when they want them to. In all other instances, words are only place-holders for feelings. "Shall not be infringed" - in the Constitution, has no literal meaning. "..endowed by their Creator" - in the Declaration, has no literal meaning. "Separation of Church and State" - doesn't appear fucking anywhere, is the law of the land "promote the general welfare" - means 'cell phones, tvs, couches, new kicks, et al.' Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 11:48 AM (fwARV) 429
Posted by: Garrett at May 06, 2015 11:46 AM (zcpBx)
He needs to just set his alarm for like 7:30. Every day. Kind of forces you back in to a "normal"ish person schedule. Of course, I have to be "working" by 7 am, so I have to wake up at 6. Which sucks. Posted by: mynewhandle at May 06, 2015 11:48 AM (AkOaV) 430
An aide to state Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris and two others are accused of operating a rogue police force that claimed to exist for more than 3,000 years and have jurisdiction in 33 states and Mexico, authorities said Tuesday.
Brandon Kiel, David Henry and Tonette Hayes were arrested last week on suspicion of impersonating a police officer through their roles in the Masonic Fraternal Police Department, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Posted by: Indiana Jones at May 06, 2015 11:20 AM (e8kgV) Amateurs... Posted by: Cthuluian Regiment of Madness and Despair Enforcement at May 06, 2015 11:48 AM (0cMkb) Posted by: tu3031 at May 06, 2015 11:49 AM (YFFpo) 432
Chris Cuomo, proving that my left nipple is smarter than he is.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (6Poxk) Anna, consider this the obligatory "It is hard to judge, I've seen pictures of Chris Cuomo..." post. Arigato. Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2015 11:49 AM (t//F+) 433
One of the lesser known atrocities in the Michigan referendum fiasco was that revenue raisers (higher sales tax, higher fuel taxes, higher auto registration fees) all of course begin immediately. Money for roads (only 40% of the new revenues), however would first pay off older bonds and in TWO YEARS money would be allocated for new repairs. Also, some news outlets actually were reporting on the total lack of oversight by the state Dept of Transportation to shoddy repairs. Just a total FUBAR that the politicians tried to foist on us.
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at May 06, 2015 11:37 AM (02oLK) Did not know this....despite having taken the time to actually look up the proposal in different venues and try to divine what it actually would do. Thanks for this info..... Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2015 11:49 AM (EMXR7) 434
380 The last time a critter chased his own tail that fast, he turned into butter.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy ---------------- Oh man..., cultural appropriation! cultural appropriation! * throws flag * Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 06, 2015 11:35 AM (F2IAQ) With a helpful heaping of RAAAAACISM!!!! included, at no charge. Posted by: Grabthar's Hammer at May 06, 2015 11:50 AM (Edob3) 435
Chris Cuomo, proving that my left nipple is smarter than he is.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (6Poxk) Unknown. Chris Cuomo doesn't respond to any external stimuli. We'll have to do both tactile and temperature tests on the left nipple in question at the MoMee to be sure. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 06, 2015 11:51 AM (fwARV) 436
'Throughout my administration, we have taken a number of steps to change the culture and practices of the Baltimore Police Department,' Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (D) said.
Clearly, this city, which has been under Democrat leadership for 6 decades, in a state under Democrat leadership at least that long, requires more Democratin'! Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 06, 2015 11:52 AM (39g3+) 437
Chris Cuomo, proving that my left nipple is smarter than he is.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 06, 2015 11:31 AM (6Poxk) Well...it's certainly perkier, however Chris Cuomo is the bigger tit. Posted by: naturalfake at May 06, 2015 11:54 AM (0cMkb) 438
To the left, hate speech is pointing out to a leftist, in such a way that even he can't deny it, that he is full of shit; they hate you for doing that.
And the above is less than 140 characters. Posted by: An Observation at May 06, 2015 11:55 AM (qWU22) 439
'Throughout my administration, we have taken a number of steps to change the culture and practices of the Baltimore Police Department,' Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (D) said.
---------------- Interesting...., implies that O'Malley is responsible for the culture of the police department. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 06, 2015 11:56 AM (F2IAQ) 440
Chris Cuomo: todays most powerful, living, breathing argument against nepotism.
Posted by: Harley Quinn at May 06, 2015 11:57 AM (Fxobl) 441
Kwanza cake? Does it have a coat hanger inside.
Posted by: Jean at May 06, 2015 11:57 AM (ztOda) 442
'Throughout my administration, we have taken a number of steps to change the culture and practices of the Baltimore Police Department,' Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (D) said.
She went on to say 'many of those filthy crackers vote Republican despite our best efforts and they get uncle Tom race traitors to go along with them.' Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 06, 2015 11:58 AM (39g3+) 443
so when the media and people of the progressive party speak ill-y of US , is considered hate speech?
Does this mean we should constrain their speech, articles in papers, and on media news speak? or is restraining speech only meant for us? Posted by: comrade willow at May 06, 2015 12:04 PM (nqBYe) 444
We can keep talking about how stupid the Left is, but they're still smart enough to control the entire fu*king popular culture.
Posted by: rrpjr at May 06, 2015 12:05 PM (s/yC1) 445
Cuomo is trying really hard to backpedal and people aren't letting him. Saying "I guess I was wrong" is simply not in his nature, apparently.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 06, 2015 12:05 PM (39g3+) 446
Twitter slap fights don't make sense to me - where lawyers are involved is even worse. That, however, was a pleasure to read.
Posted by: Igotnothing at May 06, 2015 12:07 PM (lLXbF) 447
DangerGirl,
In case this hasn't been addressed yet, it sounds like you are 'limp wristing' your little Walther. Yes, it's a thing, especially if you are getting smacked in the face by hot brass. The wife was having the same problem with her S and W .40 until she stiffened her grip... Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 06, 2015 12:09 PM (4DCSq) 448
the left is not stupid it's propaganda all the time. they cynically use emotions to the masses to divide the nation into disparate groups that they can control with fear.
War on Women! They are gonna put you in chains! they hate poor people! Make women have 10 babies! while building more govt agencies to control what they have wrought. Profit! Power! Posted by: comrade willow at May 06, 2015 12:10 PM (nqBYe) Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 06, 2015 12:16 PM (1JqUE) 450
I wonder where Koomoe would be now if he weren't born a Koomoe?
Posted by: Avi at May 06, 2015 12:20 PM (SXVOI) 451
"I guess I was wrong" is simply not in his nature, apparently.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 06, 2015 12:05 PM (39g3+) The left never admits fault. Ever. It is ALWAYS someone else's fault when they fail. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 06, 2015 12:45 PM (vgIRn) 452
@315 - The Separation of Church and state came out of Everson v Board of Education, 1947.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 06, 2015 12:50 PM (vg8iE) 453
If Chaplinsky is the law of the land, how does anybody in New York City hold a conversation?
And how does MSNBC stay on the air? Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 06, 2015 01:28 PM (XO6WW) 454
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Posted by: DangerGirl at May 06, 2015 10:47 AM (F8EBp) For me, the MP40 misfeeds were purely the ammo. What were you feeding it? The MP40C I bought Deborah feeds everything I throw at it, even cheap range reloads. Haven't tried any steel case or bargain basement stuff yet though. Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 06, 2015 01:37 PM (XO6WW) 455
ben pwnd dat n00b
Posted by: Chad from ROFLorida at May 06, 2015 01:43 PM (XpaDo) 456
Am I the first to suggest that Cuomo be fucked sideways with the barbed cock of Satan?
Posted by: Afroman at May 06, 2015 02:02 PM (yEq2e) 457
My apologies -- not Ivy; Jesuit -- which is even worse.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at May 06, 2015 02:23 PM (Ol/Jg) 458
I think that to him, when a court makes a decision ABOUT the Constitution, then that becomes part of the Constitution. Reading Chaplinsky = reading the Constitution. And I guess thinking the courts are wrong is the same as thinking the Constitution is wrong.
Posted by: Dave M at May 06, 2015 02:37 PM (Cbzos) 459
"The whole "fire in a crowded theater" was about a guy handing out antiwar pamphlets.
Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2015 10:25 AM (MYCIw)" It was a bit more than that. It was about a guy passing out pamphlets to draftees during WWI urging them to disobey the draft. Posted by: holygoat at May 06, 2015 03:11 PM (O7Jq3) 460
Some real dumb asses get law degrees these days. When I was in college, not law school, one philosophy instructor taught the entire course on Guides to Straight Thinking by Stewart Chase. 1950's logic and the 13 basic fallacies. Almost all twisted thinking of the left involves one or more of these fallacies.
Posted by: kansas at May 06, 2015 04:05 PM (mka2b) 461
Man he is a special kind of dumb.
Posted by: RGallegos at May 06, 2015 04:30 PM (AVODN) 462
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