Sunday Morning Book Thread 03-29-2015: True Crime [OregonMuse]


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"Oh Look, We've Found Hillary's Missing Emails"


Good morning to all of you morons and moronettes and bartenders everywhere and all the ships at sea. Welcome to AoSHQ's stately, prestigious, and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread. The only AoSHQ thread that is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Or kilts. Kilts are OK, too. But not tutus. Unless you're a girl.


Book Quote

You know you've read a good book when you turn the last page and feel a little as if you have lost a friend.
-Paul Sweeney


Murder & Mayhem

Interesting review of the book Ghettoside: A True Story of Murder in America by Jill Leovy.

There's a statistic that surfaces early in...Ghettoside that should catch your attention: black men compose about 6% of the country's population, yet they are the victim in nearly 40% of homicides. And who's killing those black men? The answer is most often other black men. Leovy...explores the culture of black violence, specifically in South Central LA, describing a world that seems to exist hermetically sealed off from the rest of the city. With nearly zero mobility and little policing, the people of South Central are left to fend for themselves - further amplifying the devastating drumbeat of gangs and violence.

The reviewer notes that "Poverty deserves less blame" and "The US has long failed to punish blacks who kill blacks". This last bit brought on this one-star review on Amazon:

I can tell you from firsthand experience..that the blame for the inability to catch and convict violent criminals in predominantly black neighborhoods falls on the residents of those neighborhoods themselves. The culture of "stop snitching" means that people...who are literally shot point blank in the face by someone who they know from their neighborhood and survive, refuse to testify against that very person, and when forced onto the witness stand, lie and say that the person on trial is not the person who shot them. By the way, in the case I am talking about..there were at least 10 other people who witnessed the perpetrator shoot this person in the face, and not a single one voluntarily came forward.

So it looks like there's some sort of chicken-or-egg problem here. Crappy policing vs. the "no snitch" culture. Did the former produce the latter or did the latter produce the former? Or is there a third phenomenon that caused both?

I think the cop and detective shows on TV give the impression that murders are solved by forensic evidence acquired by sharp-eyed detectives combined with clever deductive reasoning, when in reality, most murders are solved by the police acting on information provided to them by informants, AKA "snitches". So when that source of information dries up, murders don't get solved.

And speaking of unsolved inner-city murders, there's Murder Rap: The Untold Story of the Biggie Smalls & Tupac Shakur Murder Investigations by the Detective Who Solved Both Cases by Greg Kading, that claims that these murders were hits ordered by... wait for it... Suge Knight and Sean "Puff Daddy" Combs. Kading was unable to bring it home because he claims he was suddenly yanked from the case by LAPD higher-ups, after which it then sputtered and slowly ground to a halt.

Evidently, those rap guys play for keeps.

I had forgotten this book, but Steven Pinker, in his book The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined, argues that, well, violence has declined. In the long term, that is. His is a sweeping view, which is admittedly hard to see from a place like, say, Mosul, or even from downtown Compton, but overall, but from prehistoric times to the modern day, civilizational, pacifying influences are slowly but surely winning out over the forces that encourage us to kill each other. Seriously. This 800+ page book is nothing if not controversial.

A Smart Military Book For This Smart Military Blog

Heard this week from a moron who told me that his father is one of men shown in the photograph on the cover of this book, Letters to Lida: World War II Told Through the Eyes, Heart and Words of a B-29 Tail-Gunner. According to the Amazon blurb, this is

an historical account of World War II in the words of B-29 tail-gunner, Staff Sergeant David J. Lemal. The story is based on 150 letters David wrote to his mother, Lida, during the war and his reflections, as he read those letters to his daughter, nearly seventy years later.

My correspondent goes on to say:

This is David Lemal's story, obviously, but it's also the story of my Dad's experiences in combat. He never talked about what happened in the war. Thanks to this book, I feel like I have a much better handle on the truth. Those B-29's were experimental planes, rushed into action, overloaded on takeoff, and subject routinely to engine fires and other malfunctions. The tailgunner's job was especially unpleasant, as he was isolated from the rest of the crew during engagements. Their plane had to make emergency landings at Iwo Jima several times on the way home from bombing runs, when they couldn't make it to Tinian due to damage or loss of fuel. The scenes of Iwo are as horrifying as you'd expect, even cleaned up for polite letters home. It's touching to see how young Lemal spared his family the awful details of war, while giving them the general outlines.

The info on the B-29 is interesting. I finished Unbroken a couple of weeks ago, which had a different perspective on these planes, namely, they were shown as heroic liberators, especially when viewed from the confines of a Japanese prisoner-of-war camp. They were a definite improvement over the plane that Zamperini was shot down in, the B-24.

He concludes with:

There's also a very good discussion at the end of how the returning soldiers were treated, as the war ended so suddenly with the dropping of the A-bombs. It wasn't all parades and fanfare, to say the least. Like my Dad, Lemal went home and got on with his life, handling the nightmares discreetly.

It's amazing what these young men go through, and how it affects them the rest of their lives. I always have to remind myself of this when I'm watching movies or TV shows where the action hero is shooting one bad guy after another, and everything is just fine and dandy, and he's pretty much doing the same thing next episode (or the sequel) as if it were nothing, but it this was real life, he'd be a psychopath.


St. Gilbert?

I never knew there was a movement among Roman Catholics to canonize G.K. Chesterton, but apparently there is. I found this out when I stumbled upon this (unabashedly hagiographic) article in The Atlantic, An Unlikely Saint, which is an interesting description of the many facets of his greatness.

Personally, Chesterton is like opera, that is, I can recognize the talent, but it isn't something I naturally enjoy. I tried a couple of times to read his classic Orthodoxy, but I quickly grew weary of his cutesy little one-liners, which many, I think most, of his readers find clever and witty, but to me, it's merely irritating.

My loss, I think.

But whatever my opinion of his writing style, I still think Chesterton was a great man, one of the voices of sanity in an increasingly mad and mindless world.


Famous Last Words

How many of these do you know? Take the 'famous last words' literature quiz. I got hardly any of these. The best I could do was 47%, all my guessing, which served me well in the past, this time availed me not (or is that naught?).


What I'm Reading

I just finished How Dark the World Becomes by Frank Chadwick which was recommended back on a way earlier book thread, and it's one of those books that that you hate to have end. The main character is a Ukrainian gangster who is trying to eke out a living on a rough and hostile world far from Earth and is doing OK, except that his powerful boss now wants him gone, and his attempts to escape the tight situation he's caught in brings him into contact with the nanny of two very well-to-do alien children who are marked for death for reasons that aren't immediately clear. So since his need to survive roughly coincides with theirs, he agrees to protect them as they make their escape off-planet. And as the violence escalates, he slowly starts to understand just how important these children really are, and why someone is trying to kill them.

Highly recommended for science fiction fans.


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I also finished up The Hot Gate, which is book 3 of John Ringo's 'Troy Rising' series. I liked it, I recommend the Troy series, but the book didn't really conclude, it just sort of stopped at the end of a huge battle, and it left me wanting to hear more. I hope Mr. Ringo will get back to this series, but I suppose he's pretty much moved on to other things.


Books By Morons

Moronette commenter artemis has just published her third Scotland Yard mystery, Murder in Hindsight, which features the unlikely crime-fighting duo of Detective Sergeant Kathleen Doyle, and Lord Acton (Chief Inspector Michael Sinclair), and it will be available on March 31st.

Here's a taste:

There's an unusual killer combing London's streets - a vigilante is at work, killing suspects from prior cases who were never convicted; those who'd gotten away with murder, in hindsight.

It's a puzzler, though; this vigilante is staying to the shadows, and covering his tracks so that Detective Sergeant Kathleen Doyle is left to guess at his motivation. Is the killer guilty about his own role in helping murderers get off, or is it someone who's just had-it-up-to-here with the imperfect justice system?

Meanwhile, the Kindle price has come down quite a bit on the earlier novels in this series, Murder in Thrall and Murder in Retribution.


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In the mood for some chick lit? Tammy al-Thor tells me she has a friend who writes mysteries that are, in her words, "strictly 'ette fodder". The Lanvin Murders, is available as a promotional for the low, low price of FREE until April 3rd.

All Portland vintage clothing store owner Joanna Hayworth wants to do is turn her back on the modern world and retreat into a carefully curated life of satin cocktail gowns, icy martinis, and old movies.

But when Joanna finds a key in a 1930s Lanvin coat cast off by an ex-showgirl, everything changes. The elderly woman turns up dead, and Joanna is pulled into a long-ago drama of back room deals, blackmail, and lost love. She must find a very real - and present day - killer before she becomes his next victim.

Tammy's friend has written two other vintage-clothes-themed mysteries, Dior Or Die, and Slain in Schiaparelli.


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Long-time lurker akornzombie wants me to tell you about his webcomic. It's titled Third Shift, and it's the story of how a guy, his girlfriend, and the werewolf they befriend become vampire hunters.

It's rated NSFW for blood, violence and naked werewolves.


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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Comments

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1 Good morning to all the book threadees

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 09:00 AM (FvdPb)

2 Um, shouldn't that be ghetto<b>c</b>ide?

Posted by: Xavier at March 29, 2015 09:02 AM (MB7G/)

3 Ah, no html-fu on AOS, eh?

Posted by: Xavier at March 29, 2015 09:03 AM (MB7G/)

4 The Better Angels Of Our Nature is a fabulous book, but it is long on graphic description of torture (for my taste anyway).

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at March 29, 2015 09:08 AM (lzx+h)

5 Maybe use brackets? I dunno. Now to read thread. Thank you, OM!

Posted by: Gem at March 29, 2015 09:08 AM (c+gwp)

6 >>>>>>Evidently, those rap guys play for keeps

Dear Sir,
Regarding your recent foray
Into the rap business and the scene you portray,
See I don't normally approve of war games,
But "He's biting you" is what they all say

http://is.gd/LEQQE6

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 29, 2015 09:08 AM (XvP14)

7 Currently working on a re-read of The Last Centurion by David Weber. Funny sarcastic book which assumed Scankles would be elected instead of Obama. Ringo really excoriated the female President in this book, but it would all doubly apply to Obama.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 09:09 AM (wlDny)

8 Good morning,

I'm reading "The Almost Nearly Perfect People: The Myth of Scandinavian Utopia" by Michael Booth. And on Friday, I quit my job. Not only do I get out from under my two-faced, passive-aggressive scrunt of a boss... but I also get to move from the People's Republic of Maryland back to the heartland. No rain tax and all the guns I want. Yippee-ki-yi-yay.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 29, 2015 09:10 AM (4YKBD)

9 Oh Look, We've Found Hillary's Missing Emails


LOL, OM; does that sinkhole go all the way down to the fiery place?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 09:11 AM (wlDny)

10 You know you've read a good book when you turn the last page and feel a little as if you have lost a friend.
Paul Sweeney



I sorta feel that way until I remember I can reread it any time which I do a lot anymore.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 09:12 AM (wlDny)

11 I love G.K. Chesterton. Ignatius Press is publishing his complete works; no idea how big the set will be when it's done, but it's already over 30 volumes. I was an early subscriber to the series when it first started coming out; we got a discount for buying each book as it appeared.

However, I question the whole sainthood thing. I notice that this campaign to make him a saint is occurring when the Catholic Church is at a very low ebb, and getting lower every day. Pope Shitty the First has become the town scold, and can't seem to go a single day without snarling at conservatives (i.e. "good Catholics") about how nobody got anything right for 2000 years until he and his Vatican II pals came along.

If Chesterton were alive TODAY, I strongly doubt he'd convert to Catholicism. It's in far worse condition than the Anglican Church was when he left it in 1922, and for the exact same reasons: collapse of nerve on sex, and excessive coziness with governments and politics (of the left, naturally). If he DID convert, it would have to be for completely different reasons than he had in the early 20th century, when what attracted him was Catholicism's unchangeability and defiance of popular fads.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at March 29, 2015 09:13 AM (VBbCO)

12 HELP!! The Nanny State has hijacked The Belmont Club and I'm drowning in estrogen!!!

Somebody needs to complain! NO MAN LEFT BEHIND!!!

HELP!!

Jesus Wept! STILL not a single hand clap and my blog on Blogspot has been shut by that evil Commie Kleptocrat Sergei Brin!! My computer has s----l----o---w---e---d to a c----r-----a---w----l from all the tracking cookies!

While I'm incommunicado (e.g. out sailing) some of all y'all ought to go pester the heck out of them!!

Stop the War on Boys!!

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at March 29, 2015 09:14 AM (EMi53)

13 500 error?

Posted by: Gem at March 29, 2015 09:14 AM (c+gwp)

14 I cried off and on for three days when I finished The Lord of the Rins. My brothers and sisters still tease me about it every now and again.

Posted by: Gem at March 29, 2015 09:16 AM (c+gwp)

15 The reviewer notes that "Poverty deserves less blame" and "The US has
long failed to punish blacks who kill blacks". This last bit brought on
this one-star review on Amazon



Amazon reviews on subjects that are political are totally worthless. You should see the comments on MM's book on internment in WWI and the crap I took because I liked it.


As for reporting on race in crime, it is a one way street. If a white kills a black it is shouted out loudly and longley. If a black kills or shoots a white it is history and race ios not reported at all. See the morning thread post about the black thug who shot a while cop.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 09:16 AM (wlDny)

16 HA! "He's Biting You" drives my rap listening sons nuts. I love it!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 29, 2015 09:17 AM (i7JE3)

17 One of us had to accept the agony. . .

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 29, 2015 09:18 AM (TF10X)

18 I copied and pasted from the post and Pixy no like it, but I guess it's better now.

Posted by: Gem at March 29, 2015 09:18 AM (c+gwp)

19 Autobiography of Mark Twain, Volume 2. On audiobook. It's good, exactly what you'd expect.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2015 09:20 AM (2cS/G)

20 So it looks like there's some sort of chicken-or-egg problem here.
Crappy policing vs. the "no snitch" culture. Did the former produce the
latter or did the latter produce the former? Or is there a third
phenomenon that caused both?


Around here, if the policing is good enough, we get "after the arrest, fucking white lib judges send the felons back out into the community because white guilt or some shit." In the past year, there have been two juveniles who have committed thrill-kill homicides while on "home detention" for earlier violent crimes (one judge resigned after the death of a newly-wed father-to-be got national attention in the conservative/pro-life media http://is.gd/snN68Y, the other is still letting killers free), and that "shocking" video recently of the girl and her brother being beaten for being white was made possible by a judge who let the perp go after an earlier assault.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 29, 2015 09:21 AM (/kI1Q)

21 I also finished up The Hot Gate,
which is book 3 of John Ringo's 'Troy Rising' series. I liked it, I
recommend the Troy series, but the book didn't really conclude, it just
sort of stopped at the end of a huge battle, and it left me wanting to
hear more. I hope Mr. Ringo will get back to this series, but I suppose
he's pretty much moved on to other things.



I liked that book. Unfortunately it looks like it is victim of one of those "contract" thingies. He is off on another series now about "zombies". But not really. I put off starting that series because I detest "booger" movies and books.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 09:23 AM (wlDny)

22 Crappy policing vs. the "no snitch" culture.


... this only accounts for the law enforcement side, then add in the "gangsta" culture which adds in on the illegal actions side, and you have the perfect storm.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 29, 2015 09:23 AM (e8kgV)

23 Currently working on a re-read of The Last Centurion by David Weber. Funny sarcastic book which assumed Scankles would be elected instead of Obama. Ringo really excoriated the female President in this book, but it would all doubly apply to Obama.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 09:09 AM (wlDny)
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I remember re-reading it and thinking "If he'd only known we'd get something even worse than Hillary!". But what if we get Hillary on top of Kim Jong O? It would take Ringo AND Weber AND Kratman to visit doom down upon that fictional president, and I would buy it in hardback, assuming we wouldn't be using animal pelts and toilet paper for currency by that point.

Nope. Can't stomach pondering such post-apocalyptic horrors before coffee.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 09:24 AM (KH1sk)

24 This week I continued with Larry Corriea's Grimnoir Series and read Warbound. Corriea wraps up his story nicely, but like all good writers, he leaves himself an out or two should he want to continue it.

On the basis of several very positive reviews here, I read The Profession by one of my favorite authors, Steve Pressfield. It didn't disappoint. Set in the near future, mercenary armies fight all the wars. Pressfield weaves the history of how this came about into his story. It's all very plausible which make this an interesting and exciting book..

Posted by: Zoltan at March 29, 2015 09:25 AM (eLZwy)

25 "I also finished up The Hot Gate, which is book 3 of John Ringo's 'Troy Rising' series. I liked it, I recommend the Troy series, but the book didn't really conclude, it just sort of stopped at the end of a huge battle, and it left me wanting to hear more. I hope Mr. Ringo will get back to this series, but I suppose he's pretty much moved on to other things."

IIRC Ringo has commented that he kind of wrote himself into a corner and there won't be another Troy Rising book until he thinks of a way out.

Posted by: BornLib at March 29, 2015 09:27 AM (zpNwC)

26 Vic,
I answered question about Texas in #157 in last thread.

Oregon Muse,
I'm sorry to go OT.

Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2015 09:27 AM (sj3Ax)

27 I remember re-reading it and thinking "If he'd only
known we'd get something even worse than Hillary!". But what if we get
Hillary on top of Kim Jong O? It would take Ringo AND Weber AND Kratman
to visit doom down upon that fictional president, and I would buy it in
hardback, assuming we wouldn't be using animal pelts and toilet paper
for currency by that point.



Nope. Can't stomach pondering such post-apocalyptic horrors before coffee.





Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 09:24 AM (KH1sk)

If I remember correctly it was only available in paperback at first. I found it for the Kindle for my re-read. I can no longer read paperbacks at all and have to use magnifying glasses for hardbacks. With the ebook I can set font size at will.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 09:28 AM (wlDny)

28 yeah professor elemental is awesome

he's talking about another chap hop guy named Mr B the Gentleman Rhymer in that one

hysterical

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 29, 2015 09:29 AM (VAXnE)

29 ...and that Lanvin Murders link did not work. Try this one.
http://amzn.com/B00KZ4JRNM

All I've been reading lately is cozies, so I'll give this one a whirl.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 29, 2015 09:29 AM (/kI1Q)

30 Just finished "First Light", Geoff Wellum.
Memoir of his RAF service. Started trying to get into the RAF when he was 17. Went in when he was 18, just prior to the war. In no time he was flying a Spitfire in the Battle of Britain. Terrific story, and a good read. He was a DFC winner.
Reviews at http://tinyurl.com/off7esf

Here are several copies available for ~$2.00, free shipping. http://tinyurl.com/p92crvc

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2015 09:29 AM (vPh3W)

31 The eARC for Larry Correia's new epic fantasy novel, Son of the Black Sword, is out now. It's the first book of what is to be the Saga of the Forgotten Warrior series. The final version of the novel isn't actually coming out until October so this is a very early look at the book.

Posted by: BornLib at March 29, 2015 09:31 AM (zpNwC)

32 I'm getting back to reading CS Lewis essays after a few weeks break. The draw is partly for the sparkling quality of his writing (I feel the same way about EB White and Wodehouse). But a part of the attraction is that he deals in hope, not utopia, not a pain free life, but hope and from a reasoned point of view. Given all the crap and injustice we're bombarded with each day, Lewis' words are very appealing.

It made me wonder if there is an upsurge of interest in Lewis' works even though they require serious focus and thought. I don't know if this is the case. I do know that it is hard to find his non-fiction books in local used book stores and our library often has a waiting list to check out his works.

Just curiosity.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 09:31 AM (FvdPb)

33 30 - Oops. Cancel 'Free Shipping' comment

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 29, 2015 09:33 AM (vPh3W)

34 OT: Carol, the question I had for you was when you were moving to TX.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 09:33 AM (wlDny)

35 i'm half way through Thomas Merton's "The Seven Story Mountain"

he had no faith....his mother died when he was a child....his father was an artist...it's a fascinating story of how he came to know God.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 29, 2015 09:33 AM (u8GsB)

36 I like C.S. Lewis, too: I think "The Great Divorce" is my favorite of his books, and the first one I ever read was "The Screwtape Letters". Both are apologetics cloaked as fiction. I like his essays, too, but if I read too much I can get sick of them. His "tetchy professor" persona gets a bit grating after awhile, to the point where I don't want to listen to anything he says, no matter how sensible. Usually if I take a break of a few months, I enjoy him just as much when I got back.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at March 29, 2015 09:36 AM (VBbCO)

37 Continuing with my quest to avoid all "serious" (that is, political/sociological/philosophical analysis) literature, I'm finishing up Brutal, Kevin Week's story of his gore-filled years with Boston's Crime Icon Whitey Bulger.

Not sure I recommend it, unless you're heavily into true-crime gore. Weeks, like Bulger, is Not A Nice Man, and proves it in this little tome. Some may find the graphic details of some of the murders the duo participated in a bit excessive....

But I have a morbid fascination with the sordid side of my current state of residence (bloodshed and corruption make a nice counterpoint to MA's Liberal High Moral Tone!), so this one fills the bill for now.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 29, 2015 09:38 AM (P8YHq)

38 Finished Before They Are Hanged (The First Law #2) by Joe Abercrombie, a nice thick book. Superb continuation of The First Law series, improves on The Blade Itself. The best book I've read so far this year.

Similar to Tolkein's Ring trilogy in that a war is brewing and the characters are engaged on various missions around the globe. Great characters and action, Abercrombie does great fight scenes.

Listened to To Sail A Darkling Sea (Black Tide Rising #2) by John Ringo. Excellent zombie apocalypse story that is mostly comic and rarely serious. The dialogue is very entertaining, very little happens but there are hints of possible things to come. Odd that the story is somehow largely optimistic and happy when there is a zombie apocalypse.

Posted by: waelse1 at March 29, 2015 09:39 AM (1U//B)

39 LOL, OM; does that sinkhole go all the way down to the fiery place?

Yeah, but Beezlebub kicked HRC back up. "Please, it's bad enough down there without her!"

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 09:41 AM (GvWlA)

40 60% on the quiz! W00t!

As usual, not being much of a reader of fiction, I've never read most of those books and I've never even heard of some of the ones I got right. I was able to make educated guesses based on the titles and authors provided.

On the other hand, I missed a couple where I actually have read the book. Go figure.

Posted by: rickl at March 29, 2015 09:41 AM (sdi6R)

41 Thanks, OregonMuse, for mentioning Robert Goldsborough's "Archie Meets Nero Wolfe." An interesting tale that fits well with Stout's books. A good period detective book for those who have never read a Wolfe book.
***
Picked up David Handler's "Phantom Angel" in the new books section of the library because of the Washington Times blurb: "What makes Mr. Handler so much fun is that while he's kidding around--and he is a very funny writer--he's taking care of plot business with skillful ease.His dialogue actually reminds me of the late, great Elmore Leonard.

I agree. Fun read.

Posted by: doug at March 29, 2015 09:42 AM (9teY/)

42 Read the Orphans of Chaos series by John C. Wright this week. It was certainly enthralling, I kept staying up late to read it, but it turned out to be my least favorite work by him (excepting One Bright Star to Guide Them, which didn't feel like a complete, finished work).

I liked the rest of what I've read by him, but have been on a lousy streak for a bit. Anyway, Orphans was okay, and I read the whole trilogy, but retrospectively (and even just once i got to the ending) i was less impressed.


I also read Pronto, the first Raylan Givens book by Elmore Leonard. It was engaging if not worldshaking, Raylan in the book comes off a bit different than Raylan on the show, and I won't repeat the nonsense he said about Winnona. But I ended up staying up til 2 to finish.

I'm starting on another Elmore Leonard tonight.

Posted by: .87c at March 29, 2015 09:43 AM (avP3z)

43 Vic
Answer is in 157 in am thread.

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2015 09:44 AM (sj3Ax)

44 .and that Lanvin Murders link did not work

Thank you, I fixed it.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 09:47 AM (GvWlA)

45 Regarding "The Hot Gate", John and I are somewhat acquainted. He has said for years he writes what the mood gives him. If he can't pull it out in a manner he likes, he saves it, leaves it, and that's it. Sometimes for years. He completely stopped Book 3 of the original Aldenata novels after 9/11 and turned in a partial book. That's why "Where The Devil Dances" and "Hell's Faire" are two volumes. But the Aldenata stopped abruptly with "Eye of the Storm" because John said he wrote himself into a corner in the sequel's manuscript, then he wrote the three Troy Rising novels, but then the three Black Tide novels jumped out ahead of them.

Shit, he's doing a piece of a Larry Corriea Monster Hunter anthology right now- he's teasing snippets of it on his Facebook page.

But I'll see him at a couple cons this year and will post interesting rumors.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at March 29, 2015 09:47 AM (JJ6EZ)

46 I like C.S. Lewis, too: I think "The Great Divorce" is my favorite of his books

This is also Mrs. Muse's favorite CS Lewis book.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 09:48 AM (GvWlA)

47 39 Yeah, but Beezlebub kicked HRC back up. "Please, it's bad enough down there without her!"


Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 09:41 AM (GvWlA)

LOL, de debil don't be allowen' no walkers down der.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 09:49 AM (wlDny)

48 The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner

From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.
---Randall Jarrell, 1945

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 29, 2015 09:49 AM (TqyFL)

49 I've been dusting off and reading the crumbling copies of Kipling I've had on my shelves for ages. His collection of ghost stories, The Phantom Rickshaw, contains "The Man Who Would Be King", and I was delighted to find that the story was a very faithful rendition of one of my favorite movies Kipling had a very good ear for the comic musings of rapscallions and some of the conversations were imported whole cloth into the film (remember that Hollywood is the land of "Romeo and Juliet by William Shakespeare, with additional dialog by..." ).

Next up will be "The Solid Muldoon".

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 09:49 AM (KH1sk)

50 Gem: "I copied and pasted from the post and Pixy no like it"

Commenters who don't want 500 errors (and AHEM! post bloggers who don't like black diamonds):

http://bit.ly/pixyize

Converts Unicode characters in a text into HTML code equivalents that Pixy can swallow.

and

Xavier: "Ah, no html-fu on AOS, eh?"

Square brackets instead of angled, and you're limited to i, b, s, and u.

Commenters' inconvenience is all for Ace's protection.

Posted by: mindful webworker - turn the page, already! at March 29, 2015 09:52 AM (XWb4y)

51 Yay! 67% on the quiz! Had to guess for some of them, but most of my guesses were wrong, so this is a reasonably accurate test for me.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at March 29, 2015 09:53 AM (VBbCO)

52
"The Virginian", by Owen Wister. Never saw the movie or series, but a book and author sometimes credited as creating the vision of the Wester Hero. The protagonist is a chivalric Southener with some rather unexpected personal traits. The style is rather dense, but interesting. Also contains some blood stirring pontification, see below.

"It was through the Declaration of Independence that we Americans acknowledged the eternal inequality of man. For by it we abolished a cut-and-dried aristocracy. We had seen little men held up in high places and great men held down in low places, and our own justice-loving hearts abhorred this violence to human nature. Therefore, we decreed that every man should henceforth have equal liberty to find his own level. By this very decree we acknowledged and gave freedom to true aristocracy, saying, "Let the best man win, whoever he is." Let the best man win.

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, languishing in Krazyfornia at March 29, 2015 09:54 AM (cmBvC)

53 (and AHEM! post bloggers who don't like black diamonds):

Black diamonds? I don't see any black diamonds? Do you?


Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 09:55 AM (GvWlA)

54 I've had 2 Error 500 messages.
Oregon Muse, I apologize again.

But if you're wondering about lack of comments it might be answer.

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2015 09:55 AM (sj3Ax)

55 "Poverty deserves less blame"

Is a statement made by someone who thinks of poverty as a driver for crime. In truth, it's the other way around: Crime causes poverty. Who in hell is going to invest anything in these neighborhoods?

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I amn't at March 29, 2015 09:56 AM (TqyFL)

56 I have been reading some classics to escape from the current depressing state of affairs.

I had no idea that Kim by Rudyard Kipling was so damn good! And I have a much better appreciation of how master spy and traitor Harold "Kim" Philby got his nickname.

Posted by: cool breeze at March 29, 2015 09:59 AM (6Cu7i)

57 I've had 2 Error 500 messages.

Carol, I'm not sure exactly what causes those '500' error messages.

Pixy's blogging software is strange and mysterious.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 10:00 AM (GvWlA)

58 "...when you turn the last page and feel a little as if you have lost a friend."

Since it's Palm Sunday...

In my 20s, I sat down and read the four Gospels straight through for the first time. Although raised in church, I never "got it" until then.

I had set myself the goal of reading the New Testament, but Acts was profoundly disappointing, because the main actor had gone behind the scenes.

Sort-of maybe like reading about what went on in Middle Earth after Bilbo and Frodo and Gandalf sailed away. Interesting, but not on the same level at all as that which fired my enthusiasm.

Posted by: mindful webworker - literally literate at March 29, 2015 10:01 AM (XWb4y)

59 Limited mobility argument as causing poverty is a bit perplexing. Scrimp and save, save and scrimp, buy a beater. Drive one's self to North Dakota (destination optional). Sleep in said beater, spend every minute of every day looking for work. Wash, rinse, repeat if first effort fails. Simplified version, but gumption helps.

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, languishing in Krazyfornia at March 29, 2015 10:03 AM (cmBvC)

60 Finishing up Champlain's Dream by David Hackett Fischer. Quite good. So far I've enjoyed the books by Fischer.

Was thinking of re-reading the Preacher series before Seth Rogen ruins it.

Posted by: Achilles at March 29, 2015 10:04 AM (TpeIH)

61 Nothing new on this front - 67% on the quiz, and mostly guesses, most of which were accurate because ... the language in the quote just "sounded" like a particular author.

At Chicagoboyz.net one of the regular bloggers put up a long review of one of RF Delderfield's three-volume family sagas - God is an Englishman, and the rest. Delderfield was a very good and evocative writer, and his books were all over the place in the 70s and 80s - I have an original paperback of The Dreaming Suburb. Anyone check them out, or have fond memories?

Posted by: Sgt Mom at March 29, 2015 10:05 AM (95iDF)

62 24 This week I continued with Larry Corriea's Grimnoir Series and read Warbound. Corriea wraps up his story nicely, but like all good writers, he leaves himself an out or two should he want to continue it.

Posted by: Zoltan at March 29, 2015 09:25 AM (eLZwy)

He actually already has. Check out "Murder on the Orient Elite" on audible.com

Posted by: BornLib at March 29, 2015 10:05 AM (zpNwC)

63 Reviewing my answers to the quiz, I missed FOUR where I have actually read the book! Yikes!

I may have done better guessing on the ones I never heard of!

The four were "Walden", "Catcher in the Rye", "Catch-22", and "All Quiet on the Western Front".

This seriously calls into question my reading comprehension.

Posted by: rickl at March 29, 2015 10:05 AM (sdi6R)

64 57% on the literary quiz. Well, at least I'm above average!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 10:05 AM (KH1sk)

65 Scored 43% on the quiz. I'm shocked it was above 20%, lots of guessing. I'll have to start taking notes of first and last sentences of books I read to be prepared next time.

Posted by: waelse1 at March 29, 2015 10:09 AM (1U//B)

66 Oops, I didn't mean to give away any spoilers. OregonMuse, feel free to delete my #63, or at least the sentence where I named the books.

Posted by: rickl at March 29, 2015 10:09 AM (sdi6R)

67 48 - Death Of The Ball Turret Gunner

That's it. I'm the moron who suggested "Letters To Lida." The tailgunner in the B-29, once he went into the little 3X3 space, put his seatback against the hatch -- if he was killed or injured, there was no way to get to him until landing. The compartment had its own separate pressurization and heating system, which sometimes failed. It wasn't the greatest situation.

Posted by: Octopus at March 29, 2015 10:10 AM (gnD2y)

68 If any of you still have a FB page, go and check out the Page "Black Lives Matter Boston"...they have an update on their meeting today and it does not include people of non-color..."UPDATE: tomorrow's community meeting will be a People of Color ONLY space. Thank you for respecting the wishes of community and Angelo West' family.
12:30-2:30pm 1452 Dorchester Avenue
Fields Corner Business Lab"....sheesh...

Posted by: KWDreaming at March 29, 2015 10:11 AM (NMBj4)

69 OT - Not about a book - sorry

Deal with Iran evidently reached: http://tinyurl.com/qz8yufk


Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 29, 2015 10:12 AM (BZAd3)

70
Since Prop 47 (reduced sentencing) property and violent crime has exploded in California.

http://goo.gl/7sKjkS

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 29, 2015 10:13 AM (iQIUe)

71 My gut feeling is that the Bade Runner sequel(see sidebar) is going to suck.Prometheus level suck.Obama level suck.

Posted by: steevy at March 29, 2015 10:13 AM (KETbL)

72 As far as the quiz goes, aren't most of those books on the Forbidden List of common core?

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, languishing in Krazyfornia at March 29, 2015 10:14 AM (cmBvC)

73 69 I hope the Israeli airstrike is onthe way.

Posted by: steevy at March 29, 2015 10:14 AM (KETbL)

74 The tailgunner in the B-29, once he went into the
little 3X3 space, put his seatback against the hatch -- if he was killed
or injured, there was no way to get to him until landing. The
compartment had its own separate pressurization and heating system,
which sometimes failed. It wasn't the greatest situation.

Posted by: Octopus at March 29, 2015 10:10 AM (gnD2y)


There was a story about a tail gunner being disconnected from the intercom putting on his 'chute because the plane had been hit, and missed the "Bail-out" order from the pilot. He survived. but he was horrified to realize he had been the only one in the damaged plane for a while as it went on auto-pilot.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2015 10:15 AM (t//F+)

75
I'm rewatching the Jeeves & Wooster series. Yes yes, I read the books. I love the one where Jeeves lives "rough" or where Bertie and his loser friends join commie and fascist groups to impress girls.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 29, 2015 10:15 AM (iQIUe)

76 Posted by: BornLib at March 29, 2015 10:05 AM (zpNwC)


Also Tokyo Raider on Audible.com. Correia has said he has another trilogy in mind, think it would take place in the 50's. That plus the start of a new fantasy series and all the other stuff he mentions on monsterhunternation, he's a busy guy.

Posted by: waelse1 at March 29, 2015 10:16 AM (1U//B)

77 I'm reading Bloodlands - Between Hitler and Stalin. It is the most depressing, horrifying thing I've read in ... I don't know how long. Very well written and interesting, but just awful. Also reading Ben Judah's Fragile Empire, because I can't not be reading a book about Putin.

Started Michael Weiss' ISIS, as well. But I can only handle one mass murder book at a time.

Finished Volume I of Kotkin's Stalin which is a long, looooong read. And it is only through 1928. I have a feeling Volume II would be more interesting, considering it would most likely have the beginning of the purges and more about Lavrenty Beria, who is to me the most confusing personality in the whole of Stalin's regime. I read his son's book - 'Beria, my Father' which basically says "Hey everyone said my dad was a rapist and murderer but he totally wasn't trust me y'all"

Posted by: pipandbaby at March 29, 2015 10:17 AM (mSukX)

78 You can't lay the crime in the inner city on the police; it's awful tough to solve crimes when no one will provide information, and it's impossible to take down criminal organizations, like gangs, without someone willing to inform on them.

Here in metro Atlanta, I have seen countless violent felons go to jail for 2-3 years or less for crimes that would earn them 10 in some other places. So even if the cops can send someone to prison, they don't stay there long.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 29, 2015 10:18 AM (c+vBe)

79 After my purchase of "Letters," Amazon suggested a bunch of books about Tinian. This week I read "Letters From Tinian," which turned out to be mostly silly mash-letters from a nurse sent to Tinian about a month before the war ended, which was still fascinating as a glimpse of life on the island -- as well as a glimpse into the mind of a young woman of the time.

Then I read "Angel On My Shoulder," by John Pope, a Marine who fought in three of the bloodiest battles of the Pacific, including the taking of Saipan, which allowed the taking of Tinian, which allowed the bombing into submission of Japan. I am still processing his frank memoir. Especially the Iwo Jima section. If you are at all interested in honest descriptions of combat, read this brief document.

Posted by: Octopus at March 29, 2015 10:19 AM (gnD2y)

80 There were 13 that I guessed correctly but have never read. Of those, I had never heard of three.

Posted by: rickl at March 29, 2015 10:20 AM (sdi6R)

81 Quasi-OT.

Mumsey Dearest worked for the gubmint at an airfield during WWII. She told me that she knew one of the crew of the Enola Gay and that the mission bothered him.

Never got the guy's name.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 29, 2015 10:20 AM (0HooB)

82 As always, this is a great thread Mr OregonMuse, thank you.

I just finished Sam Pivnik's book, Survivor. It's his story about life in Auschwitz-Birkenau starting at 13yrs old. At reception ramp, his family went left, his mother convinced him to stay in line going right. It's the last time he saw them. Damn.
It's a fast read, simply told. I recommend it.

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 29, 2015 10:21 AM (pqOzY)

83 OM: "Black diamonds? I don't see any black diamonds? Do you?"

On another browser on another computer they show up as little boxes. No less annoying, of course.

Posted by: mindful webworker - little boxes, little boxes... at March 29, 2015 10:24 AM (XWb4y)

84 Posted by: rickl at March 29, 2015 10:20 AM (sdi6R)

I got 100%.

Bu then...I wrote all of the books.

Posted by: Brian Williams at March 29, 2015 10:25 AM (Zu3d9)

85 I agree about Chesterton. Sometimes he seems to write whole pages in order to set up one of his paradoxical witticisms and it can get quite annoying and distracting. And I think I knew more about Saints Francis and Aquinas before I read his biographies of them than I did after completing them. But his fiction, like The Man Who Was Thursday and The Flying Inn can be good.

I got 77% on the last words quiz. In some instances you can eliminate two or three of the options.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 29, 2015 10:25 AM (nFdGS)

86 I just finished the first two of the Longmire books. When I started reading the first book I thought it was going to be the same as one of the TV episodes, but it wasn't the same. I liked the first one so much I read the second one in two days. Really well written and suspenseful. Bought the first four as a set from Ace's Amazon link.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at March 29, 2015 10:26 AM (FIrEF)

87
I read over the Chesterton article at the Atlantic which has nothing but glowing comments. That's the way it is with progs and people who are dead long enough not to have a major influence in contemporary culture. If he was still alive and kicking and writing articles for the Atlantic, he would be castigated as a Luddite, and racist homophobe.

But I'm not bitter.

Posted by: Levin at March 29, 2015 10:30 AM (6pgRO)

88 Read a comment on "The Better angels of Our Nature" which the reviewer called "another 'fresh' perspective written by a very privileged white man" who, as a "pillar of the Capitalist regime" will never experience the devastation of systemic violence, or something.

The world must truly be hell on earth for such (comfortable, educated, middle class) people. Imagine being trapped in that mindset.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 10:30 AM (KH1sk)

89 The Collected Letters of C.S. Lewis volume 1 is available for $1.99 until tomorrow at Amazon. Over 1,000 pages. If anyone is interested.

Posted by: NCKate at March 29, 2015 10:32 AM (2Se4i)

90 Posted by: Dr. Mabuse

I am re-reading Screwtape Letters again. I am recovering from a very serious illness and had some dark nights of the soul. Taylor Caldwell and C. S. Lewis help me sort those out.

Posted by: bossy barbara at March 29, 2015 10:33 AM (l1zOH)

91 39 LOL, OM; does that sinkhole go all the way down to the fiery place?

Yeah, but Beezlebub kicked HRC back up. "Please, it's bad enough down there without her!"

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 09:41 AM (GvWlA)

************

"I don't feel noways fried!"

-Hillary!

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at March 29, 2015 10:34 AM (NqQAS)

92 I recently finished Pere Goriot, by Honore de Balzac. It's about a young man trying to worm his way into Society in Paris in the 1830s. It's not as hugely overwritten as Victor Hugo's stuff, and the observations of people and life are still spot-on.

It touches on a couple of things mentioned up-thread: even lower-middle-class Paris had a "no snitch" culture. In the book after one of the people in a boarding house informs on a crook who's living there, the other boarders tell the landlady that they won't live under the same roof as a police informant.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2015 10:34 AM (znMLR)

93 I also have reservations about Chesterton. He's clever, but he isn't an observer of real life. And that means his satires and polemics are hollow inside, because he's attacking the enemies he wishes he had instead of real people.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2015 10:37 AM (znMLR)

94 Shooting bad guys does not turn good men into psychopaths.

Posted by: JohnJ at March 29, 2015 10:37 AM (TF/YA)

95 77 I'm reading Bloodlands - Between Hitler and Stalin. It is the most depressing, horrifying thing I've read in ... I don't know how long. Very well written and interesting, but just awful.

Shocking how cheap life was then. A thousand people here ...ten thousand people there...It went on and on. Unfortunately, near the end of the book the author takes a cheap shot at Israel.

Finished Volume I of Kotkin's Stalin which is a long, looooong read. And it is only through 1928. I have a feeling Volume II would be more interesting, considering it would most likely have the beginning of the purges and more about Lavrenty Beria, who is to me the most confusing personality in the whole of Stalin's regime. I read his son's book - 'Beria, my Father' which basically says "Hey everyone said my dad was a rapist and murderer but he totally wasn't trust me y'all" Posted by: pipandbaby at March 29, 2015 10:17 AM (mSukX)[/]

It's rare to find children who dont excuse the mass murders of their fathers. It's also infuriating.

I always try to find a method to their madness which there generally is. However, when you have quotas to be met of people to be killed, there is no rational.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 29, 2015 10:38 AM (iQIUe)

96 uh oh.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 29, 2015 10:38 AM (iQIUe)

97 Thanks O.M.


when in reality, most murders are solved by the police acting on information provided to them by informants


****

The other misconception perpetrated by TV is that there are lots of sleuths. Small town police and sheriff's do not really have much investigative capacity. Nor do they necessarily have the will power to apprehend suspects. In the case of my F-I-L's murder we put together a very substantial case and handed it to the sheriff's office, even to the point of providing information that the murderer was living in a particular remote house in the hills. The sheriff never even knocked on the door and ask to speak with the guy. Never interviewed him, much less arrest him. Never executed a search warrant on the likely murder scene. Too much trouble apparently.

If a murder is not "solved" within a few days the solve rate drops precipitously.

Link in nick

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 29, 2015 10:39 AM (NeFrd)

98 NCKate, Thanks for the heads up about the Lewis letters collection. It will be interesting to see the transition from the young atheist to the converted and friend of Tolkien.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 10:40 AM (FvdPb)

99 "No rain tax and all the guns I want. Yippee-ki-yi-yay.


Posted by: Gregory of Yardale"

Criminy, I thought things were bad in CA! Rain tax? Jeez, where can I go? Even Utah is under siege from La Raza and the enviros.

Just finished C. S. Lewis essays, The Men With No Chests set. He anticipates postmodern theory and the chaos it causes. I also liked his defense of patriotism, with quotes going back thousands of years by various leaders.

Posted by: PJ at March 29, 2015 10:41 AM (cHuNI)

100 Oops- wrong link- try this one.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 29, 2015 10:41 AM (NeFrd)

101 As for the violence, it's culture, not race. Insty referenced some studies that showed that dispersing people from the hood to the burbs only spreads the pathology. With folks they retrained and resocialized, relocation went much better.

Posted by: PJ at March 29, 2015 10:43 AM (cHuNI)

102 93 I also have reservations about Chesterton. He's clever, but he isn't an observer of real life.

You might like to take a look at his collected journalism. He wrote for the "Illustrated London News" for decades, I think from around 1906 until the mid 1930s. Can't remember if it was a weekly or a bi-weekly column. Anyway, there he's very much dealing with real life and the issues and people of the day. I find his columns very enjoyable, maybe because he had to work under pressure of time and space limits, so he couldn't just let himself go and excessively indulge in whimsy, as can be the case in his books. His writing is much pithier, and I find that most of my favourite Chesterton quotes come from his columns.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at March 29, 2015 10:46 AM (VBbCO)

103 Muse
So glad you enjoyed " How Dark the World Becomes". It is one of those books that stays with you long after the final page is read.

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2015 10:48 AM (JSovD)

104 Barbara @ 90

I'm glad C.S. Lewis helped get you through your illness. When my mom was dying, I sent her a copy of "The Great Divorce", and she had us read it to her over and over. I think it helped a lot, for someone who'd never given any thought to religion or the afterlife, and was suddenly forced to confront it with very little preparation.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at March 29, 2015 10:51 AM (VBbCO)

105 The sheriff never even knocked on the door and ask to speak with the guy. Never interviewed him, much less arrest him. Never executed a search warrant on the likely murder scene. Too much trouble apparently.

That's absolutely infuriating.

A friend of mine had his apartment broken into and guitar stolen, there were hand-prints on the windowsill they could have lifted prints from, he knew who did it, he called the police and told them, they simply did nothing, so he went over to the perp's house, talked to the perp's mom, who let him go down to the basement where he found his guitar sitting on top of a pile of (most likely) stolen game consoles, musical instruments, computers, etc.

Then he called the police to tell them he got his guitar back, and when he told them he went to over to the perp's house to collect it, they told him "you shouldn't have done that."

Arrrrggghh!

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 10:52 AM (GvWlA)

106 71
Same here.

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2015 10:54 AM (JSovD)

107 Dr. Mabuse at March 29,

Now I definitely have to buy The Great Divorce. Thanks.

Posted by: bossy barbara at March 29, 2015 10:54 AM (l1zOH)

108 I've given away several copies of C.S. Lewis's "Mere Christianity" over the years to people who needed a good, basic explanation of the Christian faith. That book was instrumental in bringing me to Christ.

Posted by: PabloD at March 29, 2015 10:58 AM (l7jd4)

109 I've given away several copies of C.S. Lewis's "Mere Christianity" over the years to people who needed a good, basic explanation of the Christian faith. That book was instrumental in bringing me to Christ.

Same here.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 10:59 AM (GvWlA)

110 Reading a first-novel by Frank J. Fleming, blogmaster at IMAO. Humorous sci-fi about a sociopathic hit man who ends up on a planet for a job, but becomes mistaken for a cop. Falls for a girl cop who isn't what she seems, and goes up against the syndicate that employs him. The best parts are the dialog between Rico and his AI computer.

Dry wit, interesting premise, with conservative undertones. Frank has also written classics like "Punch Your Inner Hippie" and "Obama: Greatest President in the History of Everything" (or something like that). Fun read.

Posted by: Sketchy at March 29, 2015 11:02 AM (7RHQv)

111 I have a question for the Horde. A few weeks back some of you recommended a book; "The Candy Bombers". Everyone spoke highly of it, so I bought the book. When it got here, I googled the author for background.

He's the worst kind of Prog!

He's been an adviser to everyone from the JEF to Hilary, Gore, Kerry, Biden and Bubba. He was a speechwriter for Bubba, he ran the Az. Democrat party for a while and he's run for Congress himself. Wiki says "Cherny is the co-founder and President of Democracy, a public policy journal and think tank that seeks to spur new ideas on the major issues facing America and the world. Democracy's ideas, such as the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau at the heart of the 2010 Wall Street reform"

So what we have here is a self hating Jew who has been at the forefront of Proggy politics from Clinton claiming credit for the dot com boom to a major author of Dodd/Frank, which is setting us up for an even worse collapse. Why should I read this cocksucker? Did he manage to write a good book reflecting the best in American ideals? I want to like this book, but now I'm very wary. The Berlin Airlift was a magnificent example of what America can do when it believes in itself and stands up to collectivism. How good a book could be written by someone who is on the other side?

Posted by: Weirddave at March 29, 2015 11:04 AM (WvS3w)

112 So that's a Psinkhole in the first picture?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2015 11:04 AM (eenKj)

113 Arrrrggghh!


Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 10:52 AM (GvWlA)


*****


That's exactly what I said.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 29, 2015 11:08 AM (NeFrd)

114 Right wing/left wing is classic chicken or egg. Perhaps the Germanwings killer wouldn't have been depressed if society didn't stigmatize homosexuality. Strictly based on my internal doppler and instincts. And as I get older I am starting to understand left logic as taking the less rocky road.

Another example of this would be the following article. I believe it's true that you reform and domesticate Islam through women. Women are our only hope. Otherwise it's male on male violence on an epic scale.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/03/a_muslimamerican_woman_speaks.html

Posted by: Anthropology Guy at March 29, 2015 11:08 AM (lPdaT)

115 On another browser on another computer they show up as little boxes. No less annoying, of course.

I know, right, they're like cockroaches. Every time I squash a bunch of them, more seem to appear unexpectedly. I usually have to save my post many times before I eliminate them all.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 11:11 AM (GvWlA)

116 Anthro Guy: WTF?

You're seriously claiming society "stigmatizes" homosexuality? What alternate universe did you come here from and how can I get there? Right now we live in a society where you will be PUNISHED for not glorifying homosexuality as much as the gays think you ought to.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2015 11:13 AM (znMLR)

117 The German mass-murdering pilot was gay?

If so, what does that have to do with anything?

Posted by: eman at March 29, 2015 11:14 AM (MQEz6)

118 I just finished reading "IBM and The Holocaust" by Edwin Black. It's a fascinating history of just one example of the symbiotic relationship of big business and big government, neither of which possesses the slightest hint of morality or ethics.
The most chilling part of the whole experience came when I realized I was reading both history and a contemporary account of American fascism particularly as it applies to The American Community Survey, the Census Bureau, and the Chamber of Commerce.
Today, of course, this is only one of many tools our gargantuan government uses to strip us of any hint of privacy and most of our freedom. How shameful that We The People have allowed and encouraged such an Constitutional desecration to continue to occur, over more than a century, through our choices of elected officials and their appointees.

Posted by: PPs43 at March 29, 2015 11:15 AM (gs8t9)

119
Whenever you read a good book, it's like the author is right there, in the
room talking to you, which is why I don't like to read good books.

Posted by: Jack Handey at March 29, 2015 11:17 AM (jlMUV)

120 Just finished C. S. Lewis essays, The Men With No Chests set. He anticipates postmodern theory and the chaos it causes.

You can see this in some of his other writings as well, that he's trying to come to grips with something he's seeing that he's never seen before, and even though he doesn't know quite what it is, he knows it's very bad.

Of course, as you point out, what Lewis is seeing is the beginning stages of postmodernism, and since he inhabits the academic world, he is seeing it first hand, long before the rest of us.

If only more people had listened to him.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 11:18 AM (GvWlA)

121 #119, ha ha! Thank you, that's next week's book quote.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 11:20 AM (GvWlA)

122 ...talked to the perp's mom, who let him go down to the basement where he found his guitar sitting on top of a pile of (most likely) stolen game consoles, musical instruments, computers, etc.


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[DISCLAIMER: Oh, I'll probably regret posting this, but my wife and I have a definite gallows humor (and accept the fact that we will probably never find her dad's remains) but here goes]

=>

The above scenario is not very far off from how we expected one day to find her dad's skeletal remains. The guy who killed him is just that creepy, and a momma's basement kind of guy to boot.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 29, 2015 11:20 AM (NeFrd)

123 118: I may have to put that on my reading list; I've heard other people talk about it, but it's nice to get a thumbs up from a member of the Horde. Also, your name lends credibility - I have a buddy who just bought a PPS43, retooled to shoot 9mm. Hey, we're past 100 posts; this can now be a gun thread, per the AoSHQ style guide.

Posted by: PabloD at March 29, 2015 11:23 AM (l7jd4)

124 The best I could do was 47%, all my guessing, which served me well in
the past, this time availed me not (or is that naught?).


Ref says: naught!

http://tinyurl.com/oy6q26l


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 29, 2015 11:23 AM (IN7k+)

125 Why does Guatamla have so many problems with sinkholes? Is it b/c of that SMOD that hit the Yucatan millions of years ago?

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 29, 2015 11:24 AM (iQIUe)

126 Right now we live in a society where you will be PUNISHED for not
glorifying homosexuality as much as the gays think you ought to.


Go Google "Indiana" and see the Pink Mafia in all it's bigoted hate-filled bully glory.

They even do cyberterrorism now, and no one will condemn this criminal activity.
http://is.gd/tf4Rxk

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 29, 2015 11:24 AM (/kI1Q)

127 I don't fucking know if he was. I am guessing. Land of the free. I can express my opinion and I did. My opinion is he was sexually conflicted. I've hear it whispered that Jim Jones was sexually conflicted and driven bonkers. The stupid thing is the liberal press and govt bury this shit out of embarrassment when they should highlight it to teach the rest of us how dangerous rigid conformity is in a free society. Free means free with the obvious exceptions and rigorous punishment deterrent protecting minors and other defenseless individuals.

Posted by: Anthropology Guy at March 29, 2015 11:25 AM (lPdaT)

128
125 Why does Guatamla have so many problems with sinkholes? Is it b/c of that SMOD that hit the Yucatan millions of years ago?
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 29, 2015 11:24 AM (iQIUe)

Mole People.

Posted by: eman at March 29, 2015 11:27 AM (MQEz6)

129 Anthro: I disagree. I think that if there was the slightest hint that the crashin' Kraut was gay and suffering from "stigma" the media nitwits would be hard at work turning him into a pitiable victim. "Homophobia crashed that plane!" would be their cry.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2015 11:29 AM (znMLR)

130 Another racist story where a White guy shoots a Black cop.



Think that would make the nightly news? I am sure you saw this story on the nightly news.




http://tinyurl.com/pqzt299

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 29, 2015 11:29 AM (0FSuD)

131 As to sinkholes in Guatemala, the answer is Limestone.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 29, 2015 11:29 AM (znMLR)

132 Just finished "Created, the Destroyer" by Warren Murphy and Richard Sapir. It's the introduction of Remo Williams and how he became an agent for CURE. Very different from the 80s movie, but still hits many of the same beats. Made for a very quick read at 170 pages.

Currently reading "Rocket ship Galileo" by Robert Heinlein. It's amazing to see a can-do attitude in American teens. Of course the book is from 1947.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 29, 2015 11:32 AM (6n332)

133 Germanwings murder-pilot apparently had an ex-girlfriend who is now telling everyone that he was a controlling nut job. Closeted gay? Not impossible. Just plain mentally ill? Most likely.

Posted by: PabloD at March 29, 2015 11:33 AM (l7jd4)

134 Commenters' inconvenience is all for Ace's protection amusement.

Posted by: mindful webworker - turn the page, already! at March 29, 2015 09:52 AM (XWb4y)

++++

FIFY

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 29, 2015 11:34 AM (IN7k+)

135 133
Too bad she didn't spill the beans before he got in that cockpit for the last time. If there is a hell, I hope he's on slow roast right now. The bastard.

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2015 11:35 AM (JSovD)

136 If elected, I will force my child-slaves to make free toxic condoms for everybody!

#Reid2016

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 29, 2015 11:35 AM (cIoI4)

137 126 Why would they condemn it when all "right thinking" people agree,Indiana is an awful fascist state.

Posted by: steevy at March 29, 2015 11:37 AM (KETbL)

138 Haven't read any Chesterton aside from some Father Brown stories which I enjoyed. I don't know how I'll respond to his Catholic church writings. Raised Catholic in the 1950s and 60s, with the some psychopathic nuns (no joke, two ended up in a looney bin) and a 'don't ask questions, just memorize and obey' demanding and authoritative approach, soured me completely on the Catholic church and organized religion in general. This is completely separate, in my mind, from having faith.

Lewis avoids this pitfall through persuasion and by explaining his thoughts, not demanding blind obedience.

Wish I had started reading Lewis when younger but each new piece has been a gem.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 11:37 AM (FvdPb)

139 Haven't read any Chesterton aside from some Father Brown stories which I enjoyed. I don't know how I'll respond to his Catholic church writings. Raised Catholic in the 1950s and 60s, with the some psychopathic nuns (no joke, two ended up in a looney bin) and a 'don't ask questions, just memorize and obey' demanding and authoritative approach, soured me completely on the Catholic church and organized religion in general. This is completely separate, in my mind, from having faith.

Lewis avoids this pitfall through persuasion and by explaining his thoughts, not demanding blind obedience.

Wish I had started reading Lewis when younger but each new piece has been a gem.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 11:37 AM (FvdPb)

140 Haven't read any Chesterton aside from some Father Brown stories which I enjoyed. I don't know how I'll respond to his Catholic church writings. Raised Catholic in the 1950s and 60s, with the some psychopathic nuns (no joke, two ended up in a looney bin) and a 'don't ask questions, just memorize and obey' demanding and authoritative approach, soured me completely on the Catholic church and organized religion in general. This is completely separate, in my mind, from having faith.

Lewis avoids this pitfall through persuasion and by explaining his thoughts, not demanding blind obedience.

Wish I had started reading Lewis when younger but each new piece has been a gem.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 11:37 AM (FvdPb)

141 137
126 Why would they condemn it when all "right thinking" people agree,Indiana is an awful fascist state.

Posted by: steevy at March 29, 2015 11:37 AM (KETbL)

It's a mighty "corny" place.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 29, 2015 11:38 AM (0FSuD)

142 Sorry about the triple post. Don't know how it happened.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 11:38 AM (FvdPb)

143 I wonder how many more time bombs(islamic or just plain nuts) are flying planes around the world?Screening procedures seem less than adequate.

Posted by: steevy at March 29, 2015 11:38 AM (KETbL)

144 135: right this moment, Beelzebub is scratching his head, trying to figure out how to get a 10 foot long cactus to fit in that pilot's squeakhole.

Posted by: PabloD at March 29, 2015 11:39 AM (l7jd4)

145 The above scenario is not very far off from how we expected one day to find her dad's skeletal remains. The guy who killed him is just that creepy, and a momma's basement kind of guy to boot.

Did you ever find out why the sheriff's dept. sat on their butts and did nothing about this guy? Did they ever say, "we just don't have any evidence that he's involved" or anything like that? Or did you get nothing but bureaucratic silence?

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 11:39 AM (GvWlA)

146 Why does Guatamla have so many problems with sinkholes? Is it b/c of that SMOD that hit the Yucatan millions of years ago?
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 29, 2015 11:24 AM (iQIUe)

Guatemala is on limestone, with high seasonal rains and acidic plant residues from decomposition.
Limestone is dissolved by acidic water, and even worse if it dries between application the stone becomes more porous and develops microcracks that allow deeper penetration next time.

Historically the Mayan and Toltec and others that lived there had to use the sinkholes and caverns as water sources since in the dry season there was no surface water, and the mythology reflected going to dark down hidden places to find life.
Most recently, that sink-hole was blamed on faulty storm drains.

(OK, had to put this space here for the full comedic effect)

The drains probably broke, ran into an ancient series of caverns that were brewing since the beginning of the Pleistocene, reamed them out and created the conditions for the sink-hole.

Not sure what you do with that deep of a hole though. Best I can figure is you could put a fence around it and sell tickets.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2015 11:40 AM (t//F+)

Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2015 11:40 AM (t//F+)

148 Clearly it is the entrance to the barrel

Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2015 11:40 AM (t//F+)

149 I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired! ((hear, hear!)) I'm certainly not! And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 11:40 AM (KH1sk)

150 Weirddave @ 111. I checked into that author after all the reviews on here and had same reaction as you. I did not buy the book. Some folks don't care and can isolate author or actor from their work, but I just can't. Especially a progressive. Because they are the most likely to infuse their work with hidden "meanings" and "insights".

Posted by: Yip at March 29, 2015 11:42 AM (84SRe)

151 The Berlin Airlift was a magnificent example of what
America can do when it believes in itself and stands up to
collectivism. How good a book could be written by someone who is on the
other side?



Posted by: Weirddave

Revisionism. Take something remarkable, important, significant...whatever from the past, and re-write to subtley change the view, and re-inforce whatever the current reality is.

The author is a progressive, democrat loyalist? +90% of the book is completely factual, but pull quotes and statements from people either long dead or too old to defend themselves, and make it support the inevitability of Bill Clinton being elected, that he was better than GHW Bush, and how great and inevitable Barack Obama is. It may not come out that way in an obvious manner, but people are left to draw their own conclusions.

Revisionism is a long used tool to create a narrative of the inevitable out of history. People like to connect events of the past to the present and make it all inevitable, so we appear to have no free will. Or how everything turned out for the best, or some such hogwash.

Things don't always turn out for the best, at all, Sometimes things become really awful. Revisionism is a tool to frankly obscure the real world by creating an illusion of "all is well!".

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....on a Sunday morning at March 29, 2015 11:46 AM (+1T7c)

152 I think all right-thinking people in this country
are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up
in this country with being sick and tired! ((hear, hear!)) I'm
certainly not! And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 11:40 AM (KH1sk)


One of the touchstones of modern progressive child-rearing is the touching belief that if you always criticize a person he will become what you tell him he is.
So, calling a person lazy will make him lazy. Ditto for selfish, delusional, thieving, homophobic, racist, bigoted haters with hearts full of violence and microaggression.

I am not sure if they are hypocrites, un-self-critical, or if they just don't consider folk like us to be people.


Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2015 11:49 AM (t//F+)

153 146, not only put a fence n sell tickets but advertise it as a wishing well with fantastical claims of good shit to happen if people toss in a few shekels. Then sell concessions for hot dogs, tacos, doner kabaobs, etc. Sell tshirts, pieces of "sacred"limestone, ...shoot dude, sky's the limit.

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 29, 2015 11:49 AM (pqOzY)

154 Um, in Guatemala they don't call it donar kebab, I think they call it Taco al Pastor.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2015 11:53 AM (t//F+)

155 In Peruvia sinkholes are immediately filled in with tourists and whores.

Posted by: eman at March 29, 2015 11:54 AM (MQEz6)

156 50
Commenters who don't want 500 errors (and AHEM! post bloggers who don't like black diamonds):



http://bit.ly/pixyize


Oh? Let's give it a go:

#1087;#1088;#1080;#1074;#1077;#1090; #1084;#1080;#1088;!

Posted by: Anachronda at March 29, 2015 11:56 AM (o78gS)

157 Wish I had started reading Lewis when younger but each new piece has been a gem.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 11:37 AM (FvdPb)
*********
Lewis is a genius at distilling essential issues in a pithy way. Catholicism has issues other than psycho nuns and intellectually lazy catechesis. If those were the only problems you should still be RCC. But you should be aware there are firmer foundations to reject it: sola fide, sola scriptura, "veneration" of Mary and the saints, etc.

Posted by: James White is usually right at March 29, 2015 11:56 AM (3F6F8)

158 Yeah, I thought the ampersands might prove tricksy.

Posted by: Anachronda at March 29, 2015 11:56 AM (o78gS)

159 Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at March 29, 2015 09:13 AM (VBbCO)

Good observations. I have a book called "Literay Converts" by Joseph Pierce* which chronicles British authors who converted to Catholicism from Oscar Wilde to Muriel Spark ("The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie"). Of course, Chesterton features prominently in the book, but the cast of characters is quite large - Evelyn Waugh, Siegfried Sasson, Edith Sitwell, Alec Guinness, Douglas Hyde (Communist editor of the Daily Worker) are just a few. The author notes that most of the conversions occurred before Vatican II, and many of these authors and artists were first drawn to the Church because the ritual and aesthetics appealed to them. Much of that appeal was lost in the era of felt banners and folk masses and Fr. Groovy and Sr. Mary Pantsuit.

*The author is an exception, however. He's a Brit who was a neoNazi skinhead before he found God and converted. Now he teaches at a college in Florida.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 29, 2015 11:56 AM (+XMAD)

160 JTB : I'd still recommend Chesterton. He wasn't always a Catholic, after all. His family sounded like sort of progressive, liberal non-denominational people (Unitarians, I read on Wikipedia), and when he was young he was drawn to the occult. Then he went on to become an Anglican Christian of the Anglo-Catholic branch, and only finally converted to Roman Catholicism. So he had a broad exposure to different strains of Christianity, as well as no Christianity at all. His conversion was rather a gradual process; if you read his early writings, you can see him working his way through different ideas and finally deciding that Catholicism was the way to go.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at March 29, 2015 11:57 AM (VBbCO)

161 Maybe Daredemon Rebus Cannibus will be willing to jump down it, since it is the biggest hole around....

Maybe it is full of blue moss, and it smells like "Breakfast"

Posted by: Happy Harry Cox at March 29, 2015 11:58 AM (t//F+)

162 Vic,

Ringo's E-book editions should all be available at BAEN E-books as well as Amazon. Baen, the publisher, finally went with Amazon for E-books about 2? years ago. They also have their own E-book set-up, which I use.

Posted by: rd at March 29, 2015 11:58 AM (NgW1r)

163 Did someone mention ampersands?

Here, I have a few lying around, help yourself.

&&&&&&&&&&&

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 29, 2015 11:59 AM (+XMAD)

164 test,sorry



Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2015 12:00 PM (t//F+)

165 Supposedly John Ringo is working on a new Troy Rising book. There are supposed to be snippets on his Facebook account. I do not do Facebook, so I do not know for sure?

Oh John Ringo No news. There are rumors he has 2 new Ghost-series books coming out, that are written by a new co-author (not by the Tiger co-author), and we can ignore the Tiger book like it never happened.

Posted by: rd at March 29, 2015 12:02 PM (NgW1r)

166 154, quite right. But I'm thinking international pilgrims and tourists.

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 29, 2015 12:03 PM (pqOzY)

167 I must have pulled the last two staples out of my head that my facial feminization surgeon left in by accident, but I don't remember it. I must really have been drunk. At least now I can get a haircut without worrying about the electric clippers getting caught in the staples. Dr. Spiegel is excellent, however. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Zombie Bruce Jenner at March 29, 2015 12:04 PM (XrHO0)

168 "As for the violence, it's culture, not race"

-------

So you can point out a well run society under blacks in the last 3000 years?

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at March 29, 2015 12:05 PM (WGm5T)

169 So you can point out a well run society under blacks in the last 3000 years?
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at March 29, 2015 12:05 PM (WGm5T)
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Well, you hack, the kingdom of Ethiopia lasted from the 13th to the 20th century.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 12:08 PM (KH1sk)

170 Checking back

162
Vic,



Ringo's E-book editions should all be available at BAEN E-books as
well as Amazon. Baen, the publisher, finally went with Amazon for
E-books about 2? years ago. They also have their own E-book set-up,
which I use.

Posted by: rd at March 29, 2015 11:58 AM (NgW1r)

I know, I got a lot of my original e-books books from them. Especially since they have a lot of free ones. Alas, most of the free ones I got from them were ones I already had bought the tree version.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 12:08 PM (wlDny)

171 101
As for the violence, it's culture, not race. Insty referenced some
studies that showed that dispersing people from the hood to the burbs
only spreads the pathology. With folks they retrained and resocialized,
relocation went much better.


So... you're saying this can all be solved with happy fun camps?

Posted by: Anachronda at March 29, 2015 12:09 PM (o78gS)

172 161
I'm going to give my ole buddy Don Brouhaha over at the Hellmouth Medicinal Herb Emporium a call and tell him about the hole.

We're gonna have the biggest damn party this stinking desert has ever seen.

Posted by: Anthropology Guy at March 29, 2015 12:10 PM (lPdaT)

173 132
Just finished "Created, the Destroyer" by Warren Murphy and Richard
Sapir. It's the introduction of Remo Williams and how he became an agent
for CURE. Very different from the 80s movie, but still hits many of the
same beats. Made for a very quick read at 170 pages.



Currently reading "Rocket ship Galileo" by Robert Heinlein. It's
amazing to see a can-do attitude in American teens. Of course the book
is from 1947.
------------------
I have never read the Destroyer series, but they have come recommended to me several times. The movie was probably lighter fare than the novel.

Heinlein's "young readers" novels made me a fan of his (and SF in general) at an early age. I started with Red Planet and went on from there with Tunnel in the Sky, Starman Jones, The Rolling Stones, Have Spacesuit, Will Travel, and Rocket Ship Galileo.

Posted by: exdem13 at March 29, 2015 12:16 PM (/mTq0)

174 OK, this isn't a book but it highlights the fact that author Joseph Conrad didn't learn English--his fourth language--until he was in his twenties.

Kevin Williamson has a hilarious short piece on NRO called "Guano Wars II." As funny as Jonah at his best.

Posted by: doug at March 29, 2015 12:17 PM (9teY/)

175 171
101

As for the violence, it's culture, not race. Insty referenced some

studies that showed that dispersing people from the hood to the burbs

only spreads the pathology. With folks they retrained and resocialized,

relocation went much better.

So... you're saying this can all be solved with happy fun camps?
---------------
Yes, the happy fun Lenin And Marx Summer Fun Camp!!

Posted by: exdem13 at March 29, 2015 12:17 PM (/mTq0)

176 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 29, 2015 12:08 PM (wlDny)

Baen also sells E-books there. They are like a drug pusher, they give you a free taste with one or two books, and then charge for the rest of them. /sarc

I use Baen because I can download the same book again later for free, and the books are available in LOTS of formats besides Kindle. The prices did go up a few bucks each, and they are now the same as at Amazon*.

*Not that Amazon is a monopolistic behemoth capable of setting prices industrywide.

Posted by: rd at March 29, 2015 12:18 PM (NgW1r)

177 Would you testify in a neighborhood where the honest citizens are disarmed, and armed gang bangers seem to kill with impunity?

Posted by: Mike Giles at March 29, 2015 12:21 PM (QqvVA)

178 I wish the Democrats had as much integrity as my lesbian gender psychotherapist. She'd better OK the surgery, though or I'm gonna be pissed.

Posted by: Zombie Bruce Jenner at March 29, 2015 12:21 PM (XrHO0)

179 Well, you hack, the kingdom of Ethiopia lasted from the 13th to the 20th century.

Eris: Ruling caste was South Semitic with lots of Jewish influence, ruling over other Afro-Asiatic peoples (like Somalis) and also Nilotic peoples for the most part. Not "black" as we know it, except cosmetically.

(Timbuktu was similar; that one was run by Berbers with Arab influence.)

Jukin: If we're excluding Semites and Berbers from the ranks of "black", then historically the Nubian kingdoms held their own. The best black-run kingdom since 1000 BC will be Egypt under the 25th Dynasty. There. Answered your question.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 29, 2015 12:23 PM (AVEe1)

180 Thanks for the suggestions about Chesterton's religious writings. I will get to them eventually but I'm enjoying Lewis' writing so much right now. I didn't want to start an OT religious discussion, just wanted to explain my starting point with Chesterton.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 12:24 PM (FvdPb)

181 I need a book on elbows.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2015 12:24 PM (08Znv)

182 Well, you hack, the kingdom of Ethiopia lasted from the 13th to the 20th century.

Was that the place with advanced medicine and space travel?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 29, 2015 12:25 PM (W5DcG)

183 Posted by: Weirddave at March 29, 2015 11:04 AM (WvS3w)


I just stopped reading Candybombers suddenly. Couldn't figure ouy why? I wonder if this was the reason?

Posted by: rd at March 29, 2015 12:27 PM (NgW1r)

184 I need a book on elbows.

Here you go:

http://tinyurl.com/ohy85q5

Instruction Manual for Steamfitter-pipefitter, Journeymen Apprentices

Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2015 12:27 PM (t//F+)

185 For what it's worth, the police don't get the community they want; the community gets the police they deserve...

Posted by: Whatever you say at March 29, 2015 12:29 PM (M5CTg)

186 "we just don't have any evidence that he's involved" or anything like that? Or did you get nothing but bureaucratic silence?
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 11:39 AM (GvWlA)

*****


Little bit of both, mixed with some local politics and a healthy dose of frank incompetence tinged with a passive-aggressive attitude. To wit, when the old sheriff was voted out in 2012, the new sheriff completely misplaced the investigative file (such as it was). We are planning to do a FOIA request this year but don't really expect to find anything in the file. The DA initially seemed willing to execute a search warrant but then backed off without explanation.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 29, 2015 12:29 PM (NeFrd)

187 With folks they retrained and resocialized, relocation went much better.

Posted by: PJ at March 29, 2015 10:43 AM (cHuNI)
*********
Yeah, what the heck do those terms even mean?

People enamored with such terms tend to carry out "studies" whose results are decided in advance of any actual data. No thanks. Sounds like leftards in search of grant money.

Posted by: Zombie Bruce Jenner at March 29, 2015 12:29 PM (cIoI4)

188 OT my mom has finally awakened post heart surgery
CT scan revealed no bleeding in brain
She is responding to commands but still on breathing tube

Thank you to everyone for your prayers

Best
Gina

Posted by: ginaswo at March 29, 2015 12:32 PM (2EgyQ)

189 Related to nothing, I read the Parade Magazine in the paper this am. It has really sucked for years, but they have this glowing article about how the kennedys have served their Country. For the first time ever, I logged on to the site and ranted. Seems I wasn't the only one.

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 12:32 PM (9HaoF)

190 Good luck Gina. Glad to hear it!

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 12:34 PM (9HaoF)

191 When I was growing up, I'd never heard about sinkholes. Now I read about them constantly in the news.

I think it must be due to global warming.

Posted by: Juice Brenner's sigmoid colon vaginoplasty at March 29, 2015 12:36 PM (3F6F8)

192 The GhettoSide book looks interesting, I'll see if my local library has it.

Appropos of this subject, in TODAY'S Chicago Tribune is the following story, here is the opening sentence:


"The manager of a Chicago rapper was shot and killed just hours after meeting with Chicago Bulls star Joakim Noah and his client to discuss "Rock Your Drop," an anti-violence foundation sponsored by Noah.."

Things won't change in the ghetto until the males stop killing the other males and anybody else they want to kill. The cops nationwide are going to withdraw services from those neighborhoods (as has already happened in South LA) because "Ferguson".

The residents don't really want policing.

Posted by: Boots at March 29, 2015 12:41 PM (l9mF2)

193 Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 12:32 PM (9HaoF)
***
Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for me.

Posted by: Lyndon Boehnes Johnson at March 29, 2015 12:41 PM (XrHO0)

194 gina

good news!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 29, 2015 12:45 PM (u8GsB)

195 So you can point out a well run society under blacks in the last 3000 years?


Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at March 29, 2015 12:05 PM (WGm5T)
The Empire of Mali and the Ashanti Empire are probably the two best examples. The latter survives as a recognized sub-state within Ghana, with its own king, to this day.

Posted by: A. Guy at March 29, 2015 12:46 PM (7oUgp)

196 This thread has that four hour erection feeling.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 29, 2015 12:46 PM (0FSuD)

197 The black crime rate is even more dismal when you consider that the 6% number includes all black males. However there is a high percentage of black males who are either too young or too old to be much of a crime threat. Then there is another big cohort who are either in jail or prison. That really leaves only around 2 or 3 percent of the population as a whole who are committing about 50% of the crimes.

Posted by: anchovy at March 29, 2015 12:49 PM (PtVFw)

198 For the first time ever, I logged on to the site and ranted. Seems I wasn't the only one.
Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 12:32 PM (9HaoF)

Mike Wallace conducted an kiss ass interview with Vicky Kennedy, the swimmer's widow this morning on Fox News Sunday about this Ted Kennedy museum of the Senate or whatever it's called that is opening. Really, it was no different than an interview Rachel Maddow would have done - reverent allusions to the "Lion of the Senate" and how much Drunk Ted loved being a Senator.

Presumably the interactive displays at the museum will not include driving Miss Mary Jo, secret and treasonous negotiations with the Soviets, or building a waitress sandwich with Chris Dodd.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 29, 2015 12:54 PM (+XMAD)

199 Posted by: ginaswo at March 29, 2015 12:32 PM (2EgyQ)

I didn't see your initial posts about this. I'm glad your mother is doing better.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 29, 2015 12:56 PM (+XMAD)

200 Ghettoside that should catch your attention: black men compose about 6% of the country's population, yet they are the victim in nearly 40% of homicides. And who's killing those black men?
******
They misspell ghettoCide and get the tense wrong with "victim". But being aware of spelling and grammar is racist, no? Maybe certain people are just sociopaths, mentally incapable of comprehending concepts like "ethics", and we need to accept that and stop thinking that statistics as such point to a "deeper" problem. That's a lib mind trap that leads to false burdens of guilt and unjust (in the true sense of the word) treatment.

Posted by: Wonton Poop at March 29, 2015 12:57 PM (3F6F8)

201 It's truly disgusting, Donna. And I cringe when I think of the glowing, knob polishing that will go on, even after I'm dead, for the JEF.

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 12:57 PM (9HaoF)

202 The black crime rate is even more dismal when you consider that the 6% number includes all black males. However there is a high percentage of black males who are either too young or too old to be much of a crime threat. Then there is another big cohort who are either in jail or prison. That really leaves only around 2 or 3 percent of the population as a whole who are committing about 50% of the crimes.



Posted by: anchovy at March 29, 2015 12:49 PM (PtVFw)


And it is only a fraction of that 3% that actually commit the crimes. That is the reason it is important to keep them off the streets by giving them long prison terms.

Every day they are NOT in society is 1, 2, or 3 less crimes committed. Every day they are locked up is someone in their neighborhood not getting robbed, stolen from, or beat down.

Posted by: rd at March 29, 2015 12:59 PM (NgW1r)

203 198 Mike Wallace conducted an kiss ass interview with Vicky Kennedy, the swimmer's widow

Oh. Is that who that was? She was also going be on Face the Nation.

I always change the channel when Wallace gets to the touchy-feely part of the show anyway, so today was no different.

Posted by: Anachronda at March 29, 2015 01:00 PM (o78gS)

204 I got 60% on the last words quiz. Some of the ones I got wrong I almost picked the right answer, but thought, "No, that can't be it." So my brain fought against me.

Posted by: Null at March 29, 2015 01:03 PM (xjpRj)

205 I ordered "Ball Four" after reading last week's book thread and I'm reading it now. It's enjoyable, although Bouton's '60's liberalism is rather grating. (Yes, Jim, we know you were against the Vietnam War, you don't have to keep mentioning it - yeah, that was really an unpopular stance in 1970).

Hard to believe the book was so controversial - the big bombshells appear to have been the revelation that Mickey Mantle was a drunk (and sometimes a mean one) and that baseball players liked looking up the skirts of women in the stands. Now that women no longer wear dresses to ball games they don't have that diversion any more.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 29, 2015 01:04 PM (+XMAD)

206 Mike Wallace conducted an kiss ass interview with Vicky Kennedy, the swimmer's widow this morning on Fox News Sunday

That must have been disturbing to watch, considering that he's been dead for about three years.

Posted by: A. Guy at March 29, 2015 01:05 PM (7oUgp)

207 Anachronda "I thought the ampersands might prove tricksy."

Oh, well, yeah, that's Pixy's extra layer of protection against the 21st Century. Ampersands available with Premium membership only.

п

Posted by: mindful webworker - little boxes, little boxes... at March 29, 2015 01:06 PM (XWb4y)

208 Chris Wallace is just as much a waste of skin and oxygen.

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 01:08 PM (9HaoF)

209 Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 12:57 PM (9HaoF)

If the Republic somehow manages to endure, I'd like to think that someday the Kennedys will be seen for the scum they were and are.

Peggy Noonan (I know) once wrote that the Kennedys will not be seen objectively until the last Baby Boomer is dead. They are too emotional about "Where Were You When You Heard?" to see that Camelot was bullshit. (I was only 3 at the time so I don't remember, but I've noticed that even many conservative Boomers tend to place JFK on a pedestal as being the "good Kennedy" simply because he wasn't as far left as his brothers.)

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 29, 2015 01:12 PM (+XMAD)

210 Just finished "Created, the Destroyer" by Warren Murphy and Richard Sapir. It's the introduction of Remo Williams and how he became an agent for CURE. Very different from the 80s movie, but still hits many of the same beats. Made for a very quick read at 170 pages.

Currently reading "Rocket ship Galileo" by Robert Heinlein. It's amazing to see a can-do attitude in American teens. Of course the book is from 1947.
Posted by: Darth Randall at March 29, 2015 11:32 AM (6n332)


I read all the Destroyer novels as they came out back when I was in the Navy. Witty, imaginative, and lighter than the competing Executioner series, which I also read.

And Heinlein's books are all damn good reads for any age, juveniles included. I have all of his stuff, and regularly plow my way through them like a pig in truffles.

Posted by: jwpaine at March 29, 2015 01:16 PM (a3NCX)

211 I just can't watch Chris Wallace. From the inability to keep from making eye contact ( once you notice it ) to his beltway-itis. He's a card-carrying libtard who does a Sunday show on Fox. No difference between him and Stephonopohohlogus in my book.

Posted by: Yip at March 29, 2015 01:16 PM (84SRe)

212 Can someone direct me to the fallopian tubes? We seem to have encountered a dead end.

Posted by: Sperm in Bruce Jenner's vagina at March 29, 2015 01:18 PM (3F6F8)

213 You and I are the same age Donna. And I agree. I fear we won't get thru this last destructive part of our history and the history books will be erased from memory. It's why I have an extensive library.

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 01:19 PM (9HaoF)

214 It's why I have an extensive library.
Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 01:19 PM (9HaoF)

Yep. It sounds pretentious as hell, but when I look at all my books, I see a little oasis of Western Civilization in a world that increasingly disdains and is destroying that heritage.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 29, 2015 01:23 PM (+XMAD)

215 Greetings:

Would have preferred...

"Oh Look, We've Found Hillary's Missing Entrails"

Posted by: 11B40 at March 29, 2015 01:32 PM (yMbU8)

216 Donna ... It doesn't sound pretentious at all. I really believe the books we choose to surround ourselves with show what we value. They are a source of knowledge, entertainment and, when needed, comfort. And the last few years they are a desperately needed distraction.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 01:42 PM (FvdPb)

217 "The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined"

One of the "Freakonomics" authors argues that the lowering crimes rates are an unintended consequence of abortion of black babies. Planned Parenthood abortion clinics are mostly located in poor and minority areas. In New York City, it's reported that about three out of every five black pregnancies are terminated due to abortion. Inasmuch as poor minority neighborhoods are often ground zero for murder and violence, it's not surprising few residents of those areas might result in less violence.

Posted by: Lance Culpepper at March 29, 2015 01:44 PM (U936r)

218 On behalf of the Baby Boomers, some of us have despised the Kennedy clan for a long time. But I fear we are in the minority.

Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2015 01:53 PM (FvdPb)

219 It's why I have an extensive library.
Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 01:19 PM (9HaoF)

Yep. It sounds pretentious as hell, but when I look at all my books, I see a little oasis of Western Civilization in a world that increasingly disdains and is destroying that heritage.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 29, 2015 01:23 PM (+XMAD)
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Me three. All that cheesy Golden Age sci-fi is just camouflage for my scattershot but extensive collection of history tomes, how-tos, and old textbooks. Maybe it will one day be the Eris Presidential Library (Mirror Universe, presumably). Its lovely to peruse book that predate the Great Endumbification.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 01:55 PM (KH1sk)

220 Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 29, 2015 09:10 AM (4YKBD)

Congratulations on your liberty. Now you'll have *loads* of time to finish your book series right? Right?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 29, 2015 02:27 PM (GDulk)

221 Snitches need stitches!
Vrooom vrooooom vrooooom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Suge Knight at March 29, 2015 02:30 PM (xBryS)

222 http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/longpeace.pdf

A technical criticism of Pinker.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 29, 2015 03:05 PM (IdCqF)

223 So my brain fought against me.
Posted by: Null at March 29, 2015 01:03 PM (xjpRj)
==============

Mine just mostly lies down and plays dead.

Posted by: Roadkill averse at March 29, 2015 03:06 PM (TqyFL)

224 Picked up the "Skull Mantra" by Elliott Pattison (and did not read up about the author) at a garage sale. Not sold on the mystery, but the Tibetan culture was awfully interesting (more interesting than the mystery) and how China treated the Buddhists (very, very badly... hello prison work gangs). The main character is actually Chinese- former Inspector who said the wrong thing or did the wrong thing to a high ranking party official and is on the work gang now. There is a murder and he is pulled back into being an detective. Won an Edgar award for best new novel back in 2001 and there seems to be lots of further novels. Doubt I will be buying any of the later novels, but this one was worth reading, but not great.

Posted by: Charlotte at March 29, 2015 03:19 PM (sKGmv)

225 Infidel,

I think it is worth noting that at the time of JFK, there was little separation between Repub and Dem. JFK and Nixon were very similar in beliefs. JFK had adopted the traditional Republican civil rights agenda, and most Republicans had accepted Keynesian theory.

Oh, there still was a true right, which included the Birchers, Goldwater voters, and the Americans who ate up Hyack's work (published in the '50s in Reader's Digest). But this was at the margins.

Posted by: DonS at March 29, 2015 03:32 PM (Hj7X8)

226 Another example of this would be the following article. I believe it's true that you reform and domesticate Islam through women. Women are our only hope. Otherwise it's male on male violence on an epic scale.
http://www.americanthinker.com/ articles/2015/03/a_muslimamerican_woman_speaks.html


Wow. The "Muslim woman" subject of the interview in that American Thinker article, "Emma", sounds like a real ditz. If we're relying on such as her to "domesticate" Islam, we might as well just write the whole thing off now.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 04:05 PM (GvWlA)

227 226
Would you rather have her or the ones referred to in Kipling's Young British Soldier Poem? And yes absolutely she's the key. She said her mom's ideas were bullshit. That's pretty strong.

Denying women an education is how the zealots maintain control. Once educated, the power of the parent and Mosque is neutralized.

Posted by: Anthropology Guy at March 29, 2015 04:39 PM (lPdaT)

228 Wow! 200 + on a book thread. Epic!

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2015 06:07 PM (JSovD)

229 Well, FWIW, just finished reading the book thread. I'm reading A Pleasure and a Calling, by Phil Hogan. It's about a sneaky little ba$tard who grows up to be a realtor -- who keeps original keys and files on all the peeps/homes he has sold. He still likes to visit all these homes to see what the residents are up to. He began his B&E's when he was in prep school. Creepeh.

Posted by: RushBabe at March 29, 2015 06:16 PM (zdw2Z)

230 219 It's why I have an extensive library.
Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2015 01:19 PM (9HaoF)

Yep. It sounds pretentious as hell, but when I look at all my books, I see a little oasis of Western Civilization in a world that increasingly disdains and is destroying that heritage.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 29, 2015 01:23 PM (+XMAD)
----
Me three. All that cheesy Golden Age sci-fi is just camouflage for my scattershot but extensive collection of history tomes, how-tos, and old textbooks. Maybe it will one day be the Eris Presidential Library (Mirror Universe, presumably). Its lovely to peruse book that predate the Great Endumbification.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 29, 2015 01:55 PM (KH1sk)



Yeah, but how can we ensure that our books are preserved for posterity?

I'm not kidding when I say that I occasionally get the feeling that I should be sealing them in plastic and burying them in lead-lined boxes in my backyard.

Posted by: rickl at March 29, 2015 06:59 PM (sdi6R)

231 She said her mom's ideas were bullshit. That's pretty strong.

That was the about only thing she said that she got right. Everything else that came out of her mouth was mindlessly regurgitated prog crap. She obviously has the IQ of a gnat.

We're not going to be doing civilization any favors if we populate the 3rd world with pudding-headed feminists. That didn't work out too well here, did it?

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 07:45 PM (GvWlA)

232 Hey Tuna, if you're still around, I think it was you that recommended Frank Chadwick on the book thread a year or two ago. Sometimes I go through earlier threads looking for recommendations I might have missed.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 07:48 PM (GvWlA)

233 Wow! 200 + on a book thread. Epic!

Yeah, and another fun fact about the book thread is that sometimes it's still active (albeit a bit slow) until late in the evening

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 29, 2015 07:50 PM (GvWlA)

234 And what's more (for me), the thread mentions a series I've read.

Loved loved loved the Destroyer. The series didn't hit its stride until the sixth book, but by the one in which Remo and Chiun got involved in Miami Beach elections, it was a gut-buster (and you can read that two ways).

Oh, and I adored the Executioner. Still have both series -- some damaged by cat urine, damn it.

Right now listening to "The Winds of Altair" by Ben Bova. Engrossing moral dilemma. And because it's on CDs, I can't skip ahead.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 29, 2015 08:16 PM (2x4H6)

235 232
I'm still around. I usually check late to see if any new suggestions have been added. Glad you liked the Chadwick book.

I think you should take over the ONT once in a while so we can check out what the morons who don't come out until after dark are reading.

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2015 08:22 PM (JSovD)

236 I Am Pilgrim by Terry Hayes is a fantastic book!

Posted by: Deb Freeman at March 29, 2015 10:19 PM (IhC7a)

237 Currently reading The Autobiography of Madame Guyon. So far I am enjoying it. Just finished Tai Pan which was wonderful.

Posted by: Deb Freeman at March 29, 2015 10:24 PM (IhC7a)

238 Thanks for posting "Letters To Lida," Oregon Muse. I've received so many inquiries today about the book, as well as people talking about their own parents' experiences in WW2. Also had some discussions with members of my own family, who haven't yet read the book.

I get a lot of good tips from this weekly thread. Today's Takeaway: Read some G.K. Chesterton. I know I've read a little, but now I'm really curious. I found a book in the house, "Man Alive." Read the first couple pages, and realized, I need to be more alert for this one. That first part was a stunner.

Posted by: Octopus at March 29, 2015 11:57 PM (gnD2y)

239 Rap music glorifies shooting people, robbing people, stealing, and being a criminal. The number of rappers that have been implicated in shootings and criminal acts is disgusting, but our entertainment industry just sees it as a "marketing angle" that gives these guys "street cred." The kids eat this stuff up. Our children think that it's cool to shoot people. They think it is cool to be a criminal. They think it is cool to sell drugs, do drugs, steal from people, etc.. This isn't just isolated to the inner city neighborhoods. Who is the biggest consumer of violent rap music? White suburban kids! More and more white suburban kids are starting to get involved in the whole rap lifestyle now, too. Why any parent would let their kids listen to this garbage defies common sense. This is one of the most disgusting and destructive influences in our society today. And yes, "snitches get stiches," so it's NOT cool to turn someone in. It's all about "minding your business." It's pretty sick when you think about it. We've created a culture that exists outside the boundaries of what constitutes a civil society, and we've marketed it like a product, a commodity, to sell to our youth. When there is a negative impact on society, we act all surprised. Meanwhile, the big name rappers and the entertainment industry sits back and laughs all the way to the bank.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 29, 2015 11:57 PM (2/oBD)

240 ...btw, rap isn't even music. it's crap. these rappers don't play any instruments, and they certainly don't know anything about music itself. it's G A R B A G E.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 30, 2015 12:00 AM (2/oBD)

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