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Stanislav Zhukovsky, "Spring Night" (c. 1912)

Posted by: rdbrewer at 10:05 AM




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Posted by: Methos at March 24, 2015 10:06 AM (ZbV+0)

2 Very vivd blue. Probably pigments that are banned nowadays...

Posted by: nnptcgrad at March 24, 2015 10:07 AM (wrS2o)

3 Speaking of white hispanics, there is a new George Zimmerman video available. He accused Obami of 'dereliction of duty'.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/on3gmff

Posted by: RioBravo at March 24, 2015 10:08 AM (NUqwG)

4 I CLAIM THIS GULAG IN THE NAME OF TED CRUZ AND THE CONSTITUTION!

*hands out mugs of hot cocoa*

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:08 AM (cbfNE)

5 I like this one. Great color and a horse, can't beat that.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2015 10:09 AM (2cS/G)

6 MARK LEVIN EXPOSES WHY OBAMA REALLY CALLED NETANYAHU, AND IT WASN'T TO CONGRATULATE HIM

over at therightscoop.com

Barack Obama insisted that Benjamin Netanyahu remove his ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer. Netanyahu said he would not. Obama pressed the case. Netanyahu said he will not.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 24, 2015 10:10 AM (IXrOn)

7 I know that the scene depicts the effect of firelight, but the building at left looks like something I drew.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 24, 2015 10:10 AM (Spluw)

8 People Charles Cooke does not like - Palin, Cruz, and Joel Osteen.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:10 AM (gmeXX)

9 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:10 AM (kff5f)

10 Alternate Title: Risky Behaviors During Hobo Season

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 24, 2015 10:10 AM (h4vJk)

11 I found Waldo!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:10 AM (kff5f)

12 Coming soon: reparations for college womyn triggered and traumatized by people that disagree with them.

And if you oppose reparation for the special snowflakes you must be misogynists.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 24, 2015 10:10 AM (1BQGO)

13 Very vivd blue. Probably pigments that are banned nowadays...
Posted by: nnptcgrad at March 24, 2015 10:07 AM (wrS2o)


The cobalts? Probably.

I was rereading In The Frame by Dick Francis the other day and there's a part in there discussing how one of the painters was careful with the chemical composition of his paints because he was looking 300 years down the line and didn't want them to decay. Best part is that Francis made this a plot point.

I like that painting. Very calming.

Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (mf5HN)

14 Ack, willow'd!

Q: What's the difference between Germany and Malaysia?

A: When the Germans lose a plane, at least they know where it winds up.

Passenger plane crashes in French Alps, all 150 on board likely killed...

http://tinyurl.com/m49wjo8

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (DT3rQ)

15

Some blues straight from the tube.

Time to get busy.

/wave

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (IXrOn)

16 Zhukovsky's work is pretty.

Autumn is very nice

http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/full.php?ID=124513

He does have a feel for water.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (t//F+)

17 Copied from the previous thread:

>>Barack Obama insisted that Benjamin Netanyahu remove his ambassador
to the United States, Ron Dermer. Netanyahu said he would not. Obama
pressed the case. Netanyahu said he will not.


Wow.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (V+8gv)

18 No skeleton that pops out?

I'm crushed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (0HooB)

19 People Charles Cooke does not like - Palin, Cruz, and Joel Osteen.

To be fair, Osteen creeps the hell outta me.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 10:12 AM (DT3rQ)

20 Hey!

I was told there would be nude art.




I may have misread that.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:12 AM (kff5f)

21 Sweet morning art!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2015 10:12 AM (LA7Cm)

22 zzzZZZZZzzzzz

Posted by: Edgar Cayce at March 24, 2015 10:12 AM (evdj2)

23 Apparently they don't learn about ironing, cooking, and doing the laundry in women's studies?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 24, 2015 10:12 AM (b4JMJ)

24 Listening to some songs from Justified, and seeing this painting is pulling me back into the mood to bug out from DC for some small town down south, you know, minus the meth and dixie mafia and all that.

Posted by: Mainah at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (659DL)

25 that tree is going to burn.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (u8GsB)

26
Looks cold and wet.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (iQIUe)

27 That's a Hell of a campfire they got going there.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (LA7Cm)

28 I like the way he handled the fire.

Posted by: Heralder at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (/Mxso)

29 People Charles Cooke does not like - Palin, Cruz, and Joel Osteen.

To be fair, Osteen creeps the hell outta me.

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Honest question - Why? I simply do not get the visceral dislike of Osteen.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (gmeXX)

30 Lovely. So glad you got unbanned rdbrewer

People on the ONT were very concerned. It was a testament to how much people look forward to the art you post

Thanks

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (zOTsN)

31 So a 12 pack of Buckhorn and some homegrown makes History

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (l1zOH)

32 Trees are for the birds, McFly.

Posted by: Biff Tannen at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (76HNm)

33 Q: What's the difference between Germany and Malaysia?
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The pilot yells "allahu akbar" in Austrian before the plane goes down.

Posted by: Roy at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (VndSC)

34 Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (V+8gv)

F*ck.

He's going to PNG the Israeli embassy, isn't he?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (kff5f)

35 Bibi will force Barry to eject his ambassador.

Can Odipshit be forced into a tantrum on the international stage?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 24, 2015 10:14 AM (/K3BV)

36 Keep that horse away from JEF, he might eat it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 10:14 AM (l1zOH)

37 There is a young cowboy, he lives on the range. His horse and his cattle are his only companions.

Posted by: James Taylor, Soother of Nations at March 24, 2015 10:14 AM (ZKGnj)

38 And if you oppose reparation for the special snowflakes you must be misogynists.

"Yes Virginia, it's a big mean world out there so GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!111"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 10:14 AM (0HooB)

39
Plane descended for eight minutes then smashed into mountainside. No distress signals from the plane.

Weird.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 24, 2015 10:14 AM (JtwS4)

40 So glad you got unbanned rdbrewer

Wait...what?

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 24, 2015 10:15 AM (Spluw)

41 35 Bibi will force Barry to eject his ambassador.
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Reggie does that most nights.

Posted by: Roy at March 24, 2015 10:15 AM (VndSC)

42 DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson Tells U.S. Muslim Group The Koran Reminds Him Of Quintessential American Values

What the fuck?

Weasel Zippers

This people are all bat shit crazy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:15 AM (rDqRv)

43 17
Copied from the previous thread:

>>Barack Obama insisted that Benjamin Netanyahu remove his ambassador

to the United States, Ron Dermer. Netanyahu said he would not. Obama

pressed the case. Netanyahu said he will not.

Wow.


Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (V+8gv)

the next request the scoamf makes ....bibi should respond....make me

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2015 10:15 AM (u8GsB)

44 20 Hey!

I was told there would be nude art.

--

Thar be nekkid wimmenz in that thar cabin.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (cbfNE)

45 "People on the ONT were very concerned. "



I'll admit it. I was a bit worried.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (LA7Cm)

46
Plane descended for eight minutes then smashed into mountainside. No distress signals from the plane.


Power failure? Maybe instrumentation failure?

Odd.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (/K3BV)

47 >>
Coming soon: reparations for college womyn triggered and traumatized by people that disagree with them.

This is a joke, right?
Maybe we should just buy them all fainting couches instead.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (V+8gv)

48 Cookes criticism. I think there is a very large number of "elites" of all stripes that are very uncomfortable with people of faith and think references to God are a low brow appeal to the great unwashed

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (zOTsN)

49 How did you get Pixy to unban you? Mr. Hammer and I are very curious.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (l1zOH)

50 So, the poor artist left russia to escape the commies and then the nazis got him.

There was another artist posted here that I couldnt find much info on. He painted a room, with a dog and a pretty couch. He also left russia to teach in Berlin. He died in 1944 or 45. I know the nazie didnt like him but I dont know how he died.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (iQIUe)

51 Honest question - Why? I simply do not get the visceral dislike of Osteen.

Smiler. Smilers creep me out. Plus I have a distrust of most televangelists, especially anything that sniffs of "prosperity gospel".

Probably not entirely rational, but there it is.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (DT3rQ)

52 Did rdbrewer get accidentally banned?

Did he do it to himself?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (kff5f)

53 I wonder how long a painting like that, displayed on some wall would last before the color fades to nothing?

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 24, 2015 10:17 AM (QLqUE)

54 Of course Israel spied on the Iran talks, how else would they know (besides obama and kerry being involved) the deal would be an absolute disaster for Israel?

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 24, 2015 10:17 AM (A98Xu)

55 Coming soon: reparations for college womyn triggered and traumatized by people that disagree with them.

This is a joke, right?


Joke today.

Policy tomorrow.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 24, 2015 10:17 AM (/K3BV)

56 Fredo is waging an complete and all out diplomatic War on Israel. Incredible. And fuck all the liberal Jews who voted for this fuck,. Fuck you and drop dead

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:17 AM (rDqRv)

57 Blue again! Love it.

Posted by: MTF, Vote For Someone The GOP Insiders Hate at March 24, 2015 10:18 AM (LISuA)

58 Brother Cavil, I have the same reaction for the same reasons.

Posted by: no good deed at March 24, 2015 10:18 AM (ZKGnj)

59 Honest question - Why? I simply do not get the visceral dislike of Osteen.
Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (gmeXX)



Because he dances all around on the Prosperity Gospel line.

As far as the visceral dislike, I have that as well but that's just one of those things. In addition to my general dislike of nearly all of humanity, there are some people that just get my hackles up. He's one of them. That's why I usually ignore him or stuff about him because I have this innate dislike that is not based on anything other than grrr don't like.

Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 24, 2015 10:18 AM (mf5HN)

60 I simply do not get the visceral dislike of Osteen.

Using Christ's name to enrich yourself is sleazy, even if you're a white guy with a nice-looking wife.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:18 AM (/kI1Q)

61 If you are descending for 8 minutes, why wdnt you send out a distress signal? I'm sitting on my couch and feel like I shd send out a distress signal.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 24, 2015 10:18 AM (iQIUe)

62 Smiler. Smilers creep me out. Plus I have a distrust of most televangelists, especially anything that sniffs of "prosperity gospel".

A bit too much 'Billy Mays for Shamwow.'

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 24, 2015 10:18 AM (/K3BV)

63 Honest question - Why? I simply do not get the visceral dislike of Osteen.
Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:13 AM (gmeXX)

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Because he speaks like an evangelical but rarely mentions Jesus Christ?

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 24, 2015 10:18 AM (A98Xu)

64 MH - I remain banned

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (F2IAQ)

65 42 DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson Tells U.S. Muslim Group The Koran Reminds Him Of Quintessential American Values

Yeah, the Erie Canal was built upon slave labor and Sharia compliance.

The recent story out of Mosul where Moslems are punished for using a flush toilet per the Koran. Thats Quintessential if I ever heard of it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (l1zOH)

66 As far as the visceral dislike, I have that as well
but that's just one of those things. In addition to my general dislike
of nearly all of humanity, there are some people that just get my
hackles up. He's one of them. That's why I usually ignore him or
stuff about him because I have this innate dislike that is not based on
anything other than grrr don't like.



Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 24, 2015 10:18 AM (mf5HN)
i feel the same about olsteen....it's a gut reaction

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (u8GsB)

67 I thought the plane did send out a distress signal?

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (cbfNE)

68 I think there is a very large number of "elites" of all stripes that are very uncomfortable with people of faith and think references to God are a low brow appeal to the great unwashed

I believe this is true.

Once the Devil convinced people that *he* didn't exist, he then set about convincing people that God doesn't exist.

He seems to be succeeding with depressing facility.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (kff5f)

69 "If you are descending for 8 minutes, why wdnt you send out a distress signal? I'm sitting on my couch and feel like I shd send out a distress signal. "



Sounds like a controlled descent where no one realized anything was wrong.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (LA7Cm)

70 Is that a horse?

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza and His Bucket at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (ZbCKc)

71 64 MH - I remain banned
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (F2IAQ

Me to Mr. Hammer, me too.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (l1zOH)

72 I dislike corporate preachers who are mega wealthy. Osteen is one.

Posted by: NCKate at March 24, 2015 10:20 AM (CDDUX)

73 Hey..., that looks like a glue pot...

Posted by: The Horse at March 24, 2015 10:20 AM (F2IAQ)

74 I don't think Osteen does "prosperity gospel". I think he is more of a "power of positive thinking" Peele kind of guy

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

75 I'm not against reperations. Anyone that was owned as a slave before it became illegal should be able to file for them.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 24, 2015 10:20 AM (jsWA8)

76 artisanal 'ette - thanks for that link about Levin on the Obama-Netenyahu call. I was going to say that on the last thread, but it was dead. So, glad you reposted it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - link heaper at March 24, 2015 10:20 AM (ATv6t)

77 Smiler. Smilers creep me out. Plus I have a distrust of most televangelists, especially anything that sniffs of "prosperity gospel".

Probably not entirely rational, but there it is.

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That's fair. I'm not into the prosperity gospel - I'm quite happy with the Catholic interpretation - that I am a sinner who needs to be saved. But that allows me to listen to Osteen differently. He isn't a Christian pastor to me - he is a motivator who uses Christian themes. I'm fine with that.

Still I fail to see why Cooke felt the need to take a shot at him in a piece criticizing Cruz.

I think the other other commenter is right - Cooke (being the atheist he is) is uncomfortable with politicians and speakers who directly reference God and his blessings on the US. I think he thinks its ok to believe in God - but please don't bring him into the public square.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:21 AM (gmeXX)

78 70
Is that a horse?

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza and His Bucket at March 24, 2015 10:19 AM (ZbCKc)

this is when cowboys rode cows.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2015 10:21 AM (u8GsB)

79 75 I'm not against reperations. Anyone that was owned as a slave before it became illegal should be able to file for them.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 24, 2015 10:20 AM (jsWA

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I'm on board with this.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 24, 2015 10:21 AM (A98Xu)

80 Not their kin folk, themselves only.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 24, 2015 10:22 AM (jsWA8)

81 Osteen is almost secular. He is more of a motivational speaker like Howard Vincent Peele or Tony Robbins

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:22 AM (zOTsN)

82 That's why I usually ignore him or
stuff about him because I have this innate dislike that is not based on
anything other than grrr don't like.



Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 24, 2015 10:18 AM (mf5HN)

But isn't that your general reaction to all humanity?

Posted by: wrg500 at March 24, 2015 10:23 AM (sWgE+)

83 74 I don't think Osteen does "prosperity gospel". I think he is more of a "power of positive thinking" Peele kind of guy
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

2 Cor 11
For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:23 AM (84oau)

84 I think he is more of a "power of positive thinking" Peele kind of guy

Not much better in my book, honestly.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 10:23 AM (DT3rQ)

85 Anyone that was owned as a slave before it became illegal should be able to file for them.


Lots of active SS numbers with birthdates before the Late Unpleasantness. Just need to find us some.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:23 AM (/kI1Q)

86 Reparations to slave owners who were stripped of their property without compensation.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 24, 2015 10:23 AM (b4JMJ)

87 Cookes criticism. I think there is a very large number of "elites" of all stripes that are very uncomfortable with people of faith and think references to God are a low brow appeal to the great unwashed

I've never understood that.

Religion, specifically Christianity, has some mighty good references, with the Founders at the top of my list. There can be no argument that they were geniuses (genii) with astounding insight into both politics and human nature (aka Psychology).

Many great philosophers and scientists were also guided by God and His Light, like Einstein. Just about every smart person I've ever known believed in Him.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 10:23 AM (0HooB)

88 Fair enough.

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:24 AM (zOTsN)

89 Nobody builds a campfire that big.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 24, 2015 10:24 AM (wlDny)

90 For those who share Cooke's dislike of Osteen - don't you think it odd that he referenced him in his piece on Cruz? It just feels out of place.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:24 AM (gmeXX)

91
Power failure? Maybe instrumentation failure?



Odd.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 24, 2015 10:16 AM (/K3BV)

I'm going with unknown, but a high probability is crew distraction similar to the Eastern Airlines flight 401 that crashed in the Everglades west of Miami in '72.
The EAL 1011 crew became distracted due to an inoperative landing gear warning light and didn't hear the ALTHOLD aural warning indicating the altitude hold feature of the autopilot had disconnected. The aircraft impacted the ground in a near level position indicating it was in a controlled descent.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (P330y)

92 Nobody builds a campfire that big.

Probably didn't have a lime pit out back.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (/kI1Q)

93 Reparations to slave owners who were stripped of their property without compensation.
Posted by: Boss Moss

mazeltov.

Posted by: zombie Abraham Lincoln at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (Spluw)

94 For those who share Cooke's dislike of Osteen - don't you think it odd that he referenced him in his piece on Cruz? It just feels out of place.

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Other than that it is a signal to other intellectuals.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (gmeXX)

95 Anyone that was owned as a slave before it became illegal should be able to file for them.

I see Michael Brown's Vagina of Origin is in the news again, railing about the days when black people were '3/5's of a human being.'

She doesn't even know how ignorant she is.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (/K3BV)

96 So....why???

"Chelsea Clinton and late-night TV host Jimmy Kimmel teamed up Monday
to announce the 'Serve a Year' initiative, a campaign that will use
Hollywood entertainment toencourage American youth to spendat least
one year after college or high school giving back to their communities
through national service."


Is this just to ensure we have a sizable army of lil' Lefty activists at the ready?
What about their student loans - how will those be paid?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (V+8gv)

97 For those who share Cooke's dislike of Osteen - don't you think it odd that he referenced him in his piece on Cruz? It just feels out of place.

Cooke isn't a very clear thinker. He doesn't think things through to a conclusion, he starts with the conclusion and works his way back. It's sloppy and hacktastic.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (DT3rQ)

98 Governor O'Malley is wasting his time. Dems will not nominate an icky straight white male to head he ticket in 2016 or ever again. (That's what VP slot is for) Any serious run by a SWM is a slap in the face to the wonderful diversity of the party. I wonder if any of the SWM in the Dem party thinking long term career advancement are aware of this yet?

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 24, 2015 10:26 AM (1BQGO)

99 All I see is rape.

Posted by: Feminist art critic at March 24, 2015 10:26 AM (2Ojst)

100 Nobody builds a campfire that big.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

We had beans.

Posted by: mongo at March 24, 2015 10:26 AM (Spluw)

101 I'm going with unknown, but a high probability is crew distraction similar to the Eastern Airlines flight 401 that crashed in the Everglades west of Miami in '72.
The EAL 1011 crew became distracted due to an inoperative landing gear warning light and didn't hear the ALTHOLD aural warning indicating the altitude hold feature of the autopilot had disconnected. The aircraft impacted the ground in a near level position indicating it was in a controlled descent.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (P330y)

And there was that Air France flight that crashed into the Atlantic. It was in a shallow dive with the junior flight officer flying. Overcompensated and stalled it

Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:26 AM (84oau)

102 I've never understood that.

In general (exceptions are, by definition, exceptional) people who don't want "God in the public square," are usually people who reject any external limits on their behavior.

Many of them are fine with acting in a moral manner, so long as none of that icky morality actually attaches.

Since any Theistic God would, by definition, require an external Morality to be true, many atheists are actually anti-theists.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (kff5f)

103 Osteen is a wolf in sheep's clothing. His god is the almighty dollar.

Posted by: Lone Sage at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (ShdUd)

104 "For those who share Cooke's dislike of Osteen - don't you think it odd
that he referenced him in his piece on Cruz? It just feels out of place.
"

the article is more about who cooke is than cruz......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (u8GsB)

105 giving back to their communities"

Ok. As a certified Old Codger Ass, I proclaim full on jihad on the next person to use the phrase "giving back" within earshot.

I'm serious. And don't call me Shirley.

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (KnbYp)

106 >>For those who share Cooke's dislike of Osteen - don't you think it odd
that he referenced him in his piece on Cruz? It just feels out of
place.

Probably because Cruz was at Liberty University and explicitly mentioned Jesus Christ.
That kind of open Christianity gives the Cooke types the willies, I imagine.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (V+8gv)

107 Cooke isn't a very clear thinker. He doesn't think things through to a conclusion, he starts with the conclusion and works his way back. It's sloppy and hacktastic.

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He is definitely the less talented writer of the Mad Dog and the Englishmen duo.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (gmeXX)

108 Televangelists remind me of this song.And vice versa.


http://youtu.be/2ESWRtaHNU8

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (KETbL)

109 So I guess Chelsea's 'year of service' was working for her parents' sham charity?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (/K3BV)

110 My quiet week ahead, a Girl's Soccer game this afternoon, Jury Duty on Thursday, my first baseball game on Friday. I've always wanted to be on a jury, but one of my friends is there today, and he posted that there was a crowd of a "few hundred" people waiting to get in the Courtouse and he had already been in the Security line for 30 minutes. Not looking forward to that. Definitely looking forward to the baseball game. A sport I've actually played will be a nice change of pace.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (2cS/G)

111 And there was that Air France flight that crashed into the Atlantic. It was in a shallow dive with the junior flight officer flying. Overcompensated and stalled it
Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:26 AM (84oau)

There was a malfunctioning air speed measurement instrument on the outside of that plane that was not working that caused that accident

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:28 AM (rDqRv)

112 are usually people who reject any external limits on their behavior.


Hi, I'm Bawney Frank...

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 24, 2015 10:28 AM (KnbYp)

113 >>Ok. As a certified Old Codger Ass, I proclaim full on jihad on the next person to use the phrase "giving back" within earshot.

Me, too.
I'll add another favorite: "raise awareness"

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:28 AM (V+8gv)

114 98 Governor O'Malley is wasting his time. Dems will not nominate an icky straight white male to head he ticket in 2016 or ever again. (That's what VP slot is for) Any serious run by a SWM is a slap in the face to the wonderful diversity of the party. I wonder if any of the SWM in the Dem party thinking long term career advancement are aware of this yet?
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 24, 2015 10:26 AM (1BQGO)

I'm announcing today, after consulting with Bruce Jenner, the beginning of my transformation into a woman

Posted by: Governor O'Malley at March 24, 2015 10:29 AM (84oau)

115 Chelsea Clinton and late-night TV host Jimmy Kimmel teamed up Monday

to announce the 'Serve a Year' initiative

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (V+8gv)

So I take it, they're both signed up?


Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 24, 2015 10:29 AM (iVjJr)

116 I see Michael Brown's Vagina of Origin is in the news again, railing about the days when black people were '3/5's of a human being.'

She doesn't even know how ignorant she is.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 24, 2015 10:25 AM (/K3BV)

It's Trayvon Martin's VOO. And yes, she's a total ignoramus, but this stupidity about the 3/5 rule is being taught at colleges around the nation. It also doesn't matter how clearly or frequently you explain the actual purpose and significance of it. They will cling to this for dear life because of The Narrative.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 10:29 AM (2Ojst)

117
Three ways Netanyahu actually lost last weeks Israeli election

By John Lloyd

John Lloyd co-founded the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism at the University of Oxford. He is also a contributing editor at FT and the founder of FT Magazine.

http://tinyurl.com/mpx95l4



Oxford, ladies and gents. Think of it as Occidental College with swans.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 24, 2015 10:29 AM (kdS6q)

118 Cruz talked about his faith and how religion affected his family. I think that is Cookes objection, that testament.

On the otherhand Cruz was jumping into the race and courting the Huckabee and Santorum voters. I know there are a large number of people who are uncomfortable with Huckabee and Santorum voters and would rather not have to deal with them. I get it. Not really my cup of tea either.

But if he is to win, Cruz needs to court those voters too and not care if the existance of those people makes Cooke uncomfortable.

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:29 AM (zOTsN)

119 Only one horse, and it's watching the fire pretty closely. Probably where the other horse went.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bracing for the cold at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (FviSe)

120 'Serve a Year' initiative

Alderson would be a good place for her mom to start.

Posted by: wrg500 at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (sWgE+)

121 "Chelsea Clinton and late-night TV host Jimmy Kimmel teamed up Monday to announce the 'Serve a Year' initiative, a campaign that will use Hollywood entertainment toencourage American youth to spendat least one year after college or high school giving back to their communities through national service."


With fashionable brown shirts!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (7/YOc)

122 111 And there was that Air France flight that crashed into the Atlantic. It was in a shallow dive with the junior flight officer flying. Overcompensated and stalled it
Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:26 AM (84oau)

There was a malfunctioning air speed measurement instrument on the outside of that plane that was not working that caused that accident
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:28 AM (rDqRv)

I may be wrong, but I do remember them stalling the plane...

Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (84oau)

123 111 And there was that Air France flight that crashed into the Atlantic. It was in a shallow dive with the junior flight officer flying. Overcompensated and stalled it
Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:26 AM (84oau)

There was a malfunctioning air speed measurement instrument on the outside of that plane that was not working that caused that accident
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:28 AM (rDqRv)

I may be wrong, but I do remember them stalling the plane...

Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (84oau)

124 I don't like Osteen either. He's a grinning huckster who uses the name of Jeeeeyazus to make himself rich.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (2Ojst)

125 74 I don't think Osteen does "prosperity gospel". I think he is more of a "power of positive thinking" Peele kind of guy
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

__________

He's actually more of a "there's a sucker born every minute and I know how to take advantage of him" type of guy. Just like every televangelist.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (0LHZx)

126 Ok. As a certified Old Codger Ass, I proclaim full on jihad on the next person to use the phrase "giving back" within earshot.


As a Moderate Crank, I will provide material support and cluck approvingly.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (/kI1Q)

127 In general (exceptions are, by definition, exceptional) people who don't want "God in the public square," are usually people who reject any external limits on their behavior.

For fun, see if this idiot ever chided JEF for his remarks invoking religion. I'd bet on no.
FHNQ

Posted by: mongo at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (Spluw)

128
Chelsea Clinton and late-night TV host Jimmy Kimmel teamed up Monday to announce the 'Serve a Year' initiative




Auf Deutsch?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 24, 2015 10:31 AM (kdS6q)

129 A while back I obsessively watched the Discovery Channel docu series about plane crashes (it has multiple titles in different countries, so I'm never sure what it's called) on youtube.

Sometimes it's amazing they keep those things in the air with the complexity of the machines and the training and attention required to fly them. Even when much of flying is automated or augmented now.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 24, 2015 10:31 AM (/K3BV)

130 For those who share Cooke's dislike of Osteen - don't you think it odd that he referenced him in his piece on Cruz? It just feels out of place.

--

It's called tarring with the same brush.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:31 AM (cbfNE)

131 Someone please yank the 2 x 4 out of Charlie Cooke's a$$.
And beat him on the head with it--fool.

Posted by: The Prophet Some Dope at March 24, 2015 10:32 AM (hKyl0)

132 "The aircraft impacted the ground in a near level position indicating it was in a controlled descent. "


Reminds me a great deal of the AA 757 crash going into Cali at night years ago. Pilot punched in the beacon code but one was one digit off in the entry. Crew sat back and didn't realize the error until altitude warning sounding.....12 seconds before impact.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2015 10:32 AM (LA7Cm)

133 Vagina of Origin

You really miss a lot around here when you take a week off.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:32 AM (/kI1Q)

134 I've always wanted to be on a jury, but one of my
friends is there today, and he posted that there was a crowd of a "few
hundred" people waiting to get in the Courtouse and he had already been
in the Security line for 30 minutes. Not looking forward to that.
Definitely looking forward to the baseball game. A sport I've actually
played will be a nice change of pace.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (2cS/G)


IF yer lookin to get out of it, wear a T-shirt that says something like "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" or some such. Either the DA or the defense won't like it and you'll walk.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:32 AM (x3YFz)

135 Since any Theistic God would, by definition, require an external Morality to be true, many atheists are actually anti-theists.
Posted by: AllenG
----------------------------

The antithesis, of course, is a 'personal morality', which is to say, no morality at all.

Posted by: Somerset Maugham at March 24, 2015 10:32 AM (F2IAQ)

136 128
Chelsea Clinton and late-night TV host Jimmy Kimmel teamed up Monday to announce the 'Serve a Year' initiative




Auf Deutsch?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 24, 2015 10:31 AM (kdS6q)

Kraft durch Freude

Posted by: Heinrich Bimmler at March 24, 2015 10:32 AM (84oau)

137 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Choice
Clinic think President Obama should cut off all aid to that Netenyahoo guy and Isreal until they become more friendly with Iran and the Persons of Middle east Color. He lies just as bad as Bush and wants to start another war for no reason at all except for maybe dirty oil. If we help those opposing Isreal's Naxi Imperialism then the world will accept us and also realize we hate Bush too. We love our Black Presdent and we know the rest of the world does also except Netanyahoo who is a liar just like Bush.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 24, 2015 10:32 AM (Sd++4)

138 When you're the daughter of an ex-prezzie who can call any of his friends and get you a job making $250K a year, it's easy to take a year and "serve the community".

When you're a middle class college grad with $100K debt...not so much.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:33 AM (0LHZx)

139
Picture is a fascinating depiction of life in Russia at the time.

Even MORE so is that you can find similar scenarios today. No real difference.

Same lifestyles and conditions.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 24, 2015 10:33 AM (jeCnD)

140 There was a malfunctioning air speed measurement instrument on the outside of that plane that was not working that caused that accident
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:28 AM (rDqRv)

I may be wrong, but I do remember them stalling the plane...
Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (84oau)

Yes because the air speed indicator was wrong the reacted exactly the opposite from how they should have and stalled the plance

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:33 AM (rDqRv)

141 In general (exceptions are, by definition, exceptional) people who don't want "God in the public square," are usually people who reject any external limits on their behavior.

--

They think God should be kept out of sight, like a mistress, or a drinking problem.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:33 AM (cbfNE)

142 Giving back.Sustainability and slapping the letters "Eco" on your product are triggers for me.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2015 10:33 AM (KETbL)

143 Vagina of Origin

You really miss a lot around here when you take a week off.


Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:32 AM (/kI1Q)


Oh? So there is The Original! I *knew* it!

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:33 AM (x3YFz)

144 Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:11 AM (V+8gv)

Just how delusional *is* O?! 'Hey Bibi, I know I've been a thorn in your side and tried to overset your government but ,hey, do me a solid and give me a talking point by romving your ambassador so I can spin it as you having a snit'. Really?!

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 24, 2015 10:33 AM (GDulk)

145 I'm going to make a wild guess that by "giving back" they will not be, say, working with the homeless or women's shelters, but instead volunteering for activist groups like ACORN, PIRG, La Raza, Planned Parenthood - going door-to-door to raise awareness and get petitions signed, registering illegals, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:34 AM (V+8gv)

146 Many of them are fine with acting in a moral manner, so long as none of that icky morality actually attaches.

Since any Theistic God would, by definition, require an external Morality to be true, many atheists are actually anti-theists.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (kff5f)

I don't have a problem with external Morality, but I do think God is a bit of a dick. Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 10:34 AM (2Ojst)

147 Zhukovsky's later, and less well-known painting, was a flaming pine tree. The reds and oranges were brilliant.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2015 10:34 AM (F2IAQ)

148 I'll add another favorite: "raise awareness"

Agreed.

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 24, 2015 10:34 AM (KnbYp)

149 Moo moo have you ever heard him speak? Or the other critics? I have no dog in this fight but I have listened to Osteen before. He is really very similar to the new age self help gurus that are on public television all the time, like Wayne Dyer

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:35 AM (zOTsN)

150
Yes because the air speed indicator was wrong the reacted exactly the opposite from how they should have and stalled the plance

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:33 AM (rDqRv)


There's a lot to be said for checklists (i.e. that they're written by the survivors) but nothing is a substitute for good SA and paying attention.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:35 AM (x3YFz)

151 148 I'll add another favorite: "raise awareness"

Agreed.
Posted by: anon a mouse at March 24, 2015 10:34 AM (KnbYp)

________

We have to raise awareness that breast cancer exists. For the .000001% of the adult population that doesn't know about cancer.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:35 AM (0LHZx)

152 He's actually more of a "there's a sucker born every minute and I know how to take advantage of him" type of guy. Just like every televangelist.


-----

I don't agree with this. He is not like the televangelist of days of old. The only similarity is that he is on TV.

And what is different from Osteen and anyone who writes motivational works? If people buy the product, that doesn't mean you area huckster. He's not telling peole to donate to his Church to save your soul.

Anyway - enough about that. Osteen can defend himself.

I'm just tired of these articles by Cooke which seem to be written in the "You - intelligentsia should take me seriously because I am willing to criticize Palin and Cruz too" even though those two are maybe the two strongest pro-2nd A (his hobbyhorse) politicians out there.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:35 AM (gmeXX)

153 140 There was a malfunctioning air speed measurement instrument on the outside of that plane that was not working that caused that accident
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:28 AM (rDqRv)

I may be wrong, but I do remember them stalling the plane...
Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:30 AM (84oau)

Yes because the air speed indicator was wrong the reacted exactly the opposite from how they should have and stalled the plance
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:33 AM (rDqRv)

and they didn't have an outside reference? I should just look it up on wiki - sorry

Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:35 AM (84oau)

154 I see NROs resident cunt CW Cooke is going after Cruz.

NRO is full of useless wankers.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 24, 2015 10:36 AM (4HFY9)

155 I believe 2 separate sensors failed.Mechanical pitot froze and the electronic was inaccurate for some reason.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2015 10:36 AM (KETbL)

156 Good News!!
Yahoo home page now has a Politics Magazine.
All of the unbiased crack reporting that Yahoooo is known for, now with more politics!

Posted by: Bruce at March 24, 2015 10:36 AM (8ikIW)

157 Giving back
Raise awareness
Being part of the greater community

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:36 AM (cbfNE)

158 On the otherhand Cruz was jumping into the race and courting the Huckabee and Santorum voters. I know there are a large number of people who are uncomfortable with Huckabee and Santorum voters and would rather not have to deal with them.

I don't care who the Huckabee and Santorum voters go for, so long as it's not dimwits and con artists like Huckabee and Santorum.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 10:37 AM (DT3rQ)

159 Sometimes it's amazing they keep those things in the air with the
complexity of the machines and the training and attention required to
fly them.


You should see the software.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:37 AM (/kI1Q)

160 I don't have a problem with external Morality, but I do think God is a bit of a dick. Make of that what you will.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 10:34 AM (2Ojst)

that's an extra 200 years in Purgatory listening to Obama speeches, Inso. Keep it up and I'll make you room with Ted Kennedy.

Posted by: G*d at March 24, 2015 10:37 AM (84oau)

161 There's a lot to be said for checklists (i.e. that they're written by the survivors) but nothing is a substitute for good SA and paying attention.
Posted by: TangoNine
=============

Hmm. The ground seems awfully close....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2015 10:37 AM (F2IAQ)

162 My quiet week ahead, a Girl's Soccer game this afternoon, Jury Duty on Thursday, my first baseball game on Friday. I've always wanted to be on a jury, but one of my friends is there today, and he posted that there was a crowd of a "few hundred" people waiting to get in the Courtouse and he had already been in the Security line for 30 minutes. Not looking forward to that. Definitely looking forward to the baseball game. A sport I've actually played will be a nice change of pace.
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2015 10:27 AM (2cS/G)



If you're going to the courthouse I think you are, you need to get there at least 45 minutes early in order to make it through the line on time. Also, you'll have to take off your belt and remember, no weapons at all, that includes even a small pen knife.

Also, be prepared to meet a most interesting cross section of humanity indeed.

Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (mf5HN)

163 149 Moo moo have you ever heard him speak? Or the other critics? I have no dog in this fight but I have listened to Osteen before. He is really very similar to the new age self help gurus that are on public television all the time, like Wayne Dyer
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:35 AM (zOTsN)

___________

Yes. Self help gurus are all hucksters. He differentiates himself by mixing religion with it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (0LHZx)

164 Giving back

Raise awareness

Being part of the greater community



Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:36 AM (cbfNE)


/burns tire while smoking a cigar, wearing nothing but whitey tighties, 1 unlaced boot, and a scarf.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (x3YFz)

165 and they didn't have an outside reference? I should just look it up on wiki - sorry
Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:35 AM (84oau)

It was the outside reference that was broken. The little tube that measures air speed was blocked by a bee hive

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (rDqRv)

166 Wanna see some televangelizing? Watch some of the diet / health/ new age "gurus" that PBS will have on when they have a fund drive.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (cbfNE)

167 Yes. Self help gurus are all hucksters. He differentiates himself by mixing religion with it.





Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (0LHZx)

life coach.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (x3YFz)

168 >>I see NROs resident cunt CW Cooke is going after Cruz.

Cooke took the bait, walked right into Cruz's trap - see Richard Fernandez's latest post...

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (V+8gv)

169 Sometimes it's amazing they keep those things in the air with the complexity of the machines and the training and attention required to
fly them.
---------------

Nah..., it's all handled by an app..., via Bluetooth.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (F2IAQ)

170 We have to raise awareness that breast cancer exists. For the .000001% of the adult population that doesn't know about cancer.

Thus depriving other cancers and diseases of badly needed funds and study, like say ovarian, which (unlike breast cancer in the modern day) is a shorthand for "hope your will's in order, 'cause you're f***ed".

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 10:38 AM (DT3rQ)

171 Whatever. It was a dumb thing for Cooke to say that revealed nothing about Cruz and everything about Cooke.

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:39 AM (zOTsN)

172 What the fuck?



Weasel Zippers



This people are all bat shit crazy


Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2015 10:15 AM (rDqRv


Identity politics by checklist:
It is what happens when you learn populism from a book.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2015 10:39 AM (t//F+)

173 /burns tire while smoking a cigar, wearing nothing but whitey tighties, 1 unlaced boot, and a scarf.

--

The scarf is a really nice touch. Classy.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:39 AM (cbfNE)

174
Germanwings is puzzled by the rapid descent. The plane was only at its normal flight altitude for one minute.

A local resident who guided rescuers to the Mariaud Pass says he saw wreckage and has no doubt that the plane flew directly into the mountainside (possibly cliff).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 24, 2015 10:39 AM (JtwS4)

175 171
Whatever. It was a dumb thing for Cooke to say that revealed nothing about Cruz and everything about Cooke.

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:39 AM (zOTsN)

exactly!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2015 10:39 AM (u8GsB)

176 >>I dislike corporate preachers who are mega wealthy.


This. I came of age during the era of Jimmy Swaggert, the Bakkers, and Oral Roberts. All so crooked they could pee around corners.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 24, 2015 10:40 AM (PtTYB)

177 The scarf is a really nice touch. Classy.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:39 AM (cbfNE)


eh... fashion week and all that

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:40 AM (x3YFz)

178 All so crooked they could pee around corners.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 24, 2015 10:40 AM (PtTYB)

Heh, I can relate to that...

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 24, 2015 10:41 AM (84oau)

179 Whoever listed nations that the USA should defend to the death excluded Mexico. We share too big a border with Mexico to let some Stalin take them over. We would have to defend them.

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at March 24, 2015 10:41 AM (TlMTA)

180 I believe 2 separate sensors failed.Mechanical pitot froze and the electronic was inaccurate for some reason.



aka, God wants you.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2015 10:41 AM (7/YOc)

181 Crooked so you can pee around corners....hadn't heard that before. That's funny.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:42 AM (0LHZx)

182 We would have to defend them.
Posted by: Nick in South Bend at March 24, 2015 10:41 AM (TlMTA)
----
Or conquer.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 24, 2015 10:42 AM (NUqwG)

183 I believe 2 separate sensors failed.Mechanical pitot froze and the electronic was inaccurate for some reason.







aka, God wants you.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2015 10:41 AM (7/YOc)


last words: "Really?"

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:42 AM (x3YFz)

184 Whoever listed nations that the USA should defend to the death excluded Mexico. We share too big a border with Mexico to let some Stalin take them over. We would have to defend them.

-----

Well we would be defending them out of some strategic purpose - and there are many we would defend for similar reasons. But not out of some higher purpose.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:42 AM (gmeXX)

185 One boot laces untied? You'll trip, land on your ass and tear the tighty whites.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bracing for the cold at March 24, 2015 10:42 AM (o/3Hk)

186 'zat a glory hole in that there log cabin?

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 10:42 AM (7ObY1)

187 Gawd, yes, all of the health gurus they roll out during pledge week at PBS. It's just a frightening parade of hippie hucksters!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:43 AM (V+8gv)

188 Somebody on CNN was guessing the hydro lids went out and prevented steering. Giving that the aircraft went into the mountains I am suprised they found bodies they can see from helicopters

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:43 AM (zOTsN)

189 who was that evangelical couple...the older guy and his big wigged wife that claimed gold dust was falling from the sky.......i think benny hinn was on the same show when it happened.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2015 10:43 AM (u8GsB)

190 Need to strengthen the rhetoric a bit Mary but you are getting better.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 24, 2015 10:43 AM (QLqUE)

191 Also, be prepared to meet a most interesting cross section of humanity indeed.


The time I was on a jury, the guy behind me was a $500/hr corporate lawyer. When he protested he was too important to be there, the judge told him to sit down and shut up, he was gonna sit on this jury. It was a thing of beauty.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:43 AM (/kI1Q)

192 One boot laces untied? You'll trip, land on your ass and tear the tighty whites.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bracing for the cold at March 24, 2015 10:42 AM (o/3Hk)


That's what the dog sled's for.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:43 AM (x3YFz)

193 I'm gonna say terrorism on the plane crash, there, Bob. Of course, if that's not a convenient explanation to our betters, then it'll be all purpose "pilot error."

And I don't think it'd be the French or Belgian resistance who's responsible....

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 24, 2015 10:43 AM (hqZPQ)

194 Whoever listed nations that the USA should defend to the death excluded Mexico. We share too big a border with Mexico to let some Stalin take them over. We would have to defend them.

If it wasn't for the resulting political, logistical, and other nightmares, I'd just annex the whole pile and call it the "Southern Resource and Buffer Zone".

Mexico and the US have a mutual curse: We're neighbors.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 10:43 AM (DT3rQ)

195 All so crooked they could pee around corners.

So can The Bent Clenis, if Monica is to be believed.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 10:44 AM (7ObY1)

196 @171

Cooke is just a dumbass POS.

He literally has nothing of value to say about anything.

Maybe we should look at revoking that dumbs shits work visa.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 24, 2015 10:44 AM (4HFY9)

197 Panes can't fly but they are too dumb to know they can't fly so they fly anyway.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 24, 2015 10:44 AM (j6e8f)

198 Something about the great big fancy mega churches and millions in donations rolling in that don't scream "salt of the Earth."


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2015 10:44 AM (LA7Cm)

199 Cooke is in danger of turning into Piers Morgan.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:44 AM (cbfNE)

200 Hydrolics. Not hydro lids. Wtf I pad

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:44 AM (zOTsN)

201 I love it when Mary Cloggenstein hits the schnappes heavy in the morning. Some of her best insanity.

Posted by: mindful webworker - far from Vermont at March 24, 2015 10:45 AM (ATv6t)

202 Indiana is considering installing "Baby Boxes" where parents can "surrender" newborns anonymously instead of whipping them into dumpsters. Wow.

http://tinyurl.com/nf9cq9o

Posted by: dartist at March 24, 2015 10:45 AM (ahBY0)

203
that's an extra 200 years in Purgatory listening to Obama speeches, Inso. Keep it up and I'll make you room with Ted Kennedy.
Posted by: G*d at March 24, 2015 10:37 AM (84oau)

Case in point...

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 10:45 AM (2Ojst)

204 I love that painting. A man tenderly burns the corpse of his wife sitting with the drifter he paid to do it, before shooting him in the face, torching his cabin, and riding his horse off into the west. It's like Oregon Trail.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner's Plastic Vag at March 24, 2015 10:45 AM (vXAXB)

205 And I don't think it'd be the French or Belgian resistance who's responsible....


From CNN: Spanish King Felipe VI said there was a "high number of Spaniards, Germans and Turks" on the doomed Germanwings flight.

Three countries riddled with Extremists For Pedo-Mo.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:45 AM (/kI1Q)

206 I did jury duty once. It was actually kind of cool. Unless it's one of these cases that lasts 8 weeks, I never see why people bitch so much about serving.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:46 AM (0LHZx)

207
OK, now I'm just going to be weirded out all day:

Russian "Berezka" Sliding Folk Dance

https://youtu.be/pQkmqK5U5Uo

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 24, 2015 10:46 AM (kdS6q)

208 "75
I'm not against reperations. Anyone that was owned as a slave before it became illegal should be able to file for them.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 24, 2015 10:20 AM (jsWA"


I am 100% in favor of slavery reparations. Let's take all the government land with a few exceptions like the Grand Canyon, Yellowstone and Yosemite, divide it up into 40 acre parcels and have a lottery to award it to descendents of slaves.


We can then fire everybody at the Bureau of Land Management and probably of half the people at the Department of the Interior.

What will get really entertaining will be when Democrats try to explain to the new black landowners why they should not be allowed to get rich by signing contracts to allow oil companies to drill and frack beneath their land.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 10:46 AM (KDbAT)

209 Didn't Cooke become a citizen?Or is in the process to become one.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2015 10:46 AM (KETbL)

210 Watch some of the diet / health/ new age "gurus" that PBS will have on"

Flippn thru the channels the other night and the Missus noted the abundance of "fat old white women" in the assorted self help guru audiences, and she especially went off on the one in which said audience was encouraged to stand up and flap their arms about in some bizarre ritual to make "aging amazing"... it was surreal.

(her words, not mine, so there)

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 24, 2015 10:46 AM (KnbYp)

211 went to see a buddy of min in OR. They do this whole recycling nonsense there and I'm just throwing trash where it goes: in the trashcan.

They looked at me like I had just chained a child in the bottom of the well when I threw a plastic water bottle in the trashcan.

"Do you recycle?" he said.

"Do you suck dick?" I replied

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:47 AM (x3YFz)

212 I do think God is a bit of a dick.

Job certainly thought so.

I actually don't have a problem with people who are angry at God. In many cases, I've found people who are angry at God are closer to the heart of Christianity than many (not necessarily "most" but many) of the ones who have beatific expressions and talk about how God blessed them because the bird pooped 2 feet to the left.

Heck, *I* have been angry at God a time or two.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:47 AM (kff5f)

213 >>Heh, I can relate to that... Posted by: Bill Clinton


Related story: back in my express delivery days, I was driving listening to G. Gordon Liddy's show during the Monica Lewinsky debacle. There was breaking news that Monica under oath had been asked intimate questions about Clinton's anatomy and had revealed that Billy Boy's pecker wasn't very straight. I remember Gordo announcing loudly, "Do you hear that America? Your president has a BENT CRANK." I damn near drove off the road.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 24, 2015 10:47 AM (PtTYB)

214 If it wasn't for the resulting political, logistical, and other nightmares, I'd just annex the whole pile and call it the "Southern Resource and Buffer Zone".


Annex 50 miles south of the Rio Grande, mine it heavily, and call it the No Go Zone.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2015 10:47 AM (7/YOc)

215 Cooke is just a dumbass POS.

He literally has nothing of value to say about anything.

Maybe we should look at revoking that dumbs shits work visa.

-----

I won't go this far. For the most part, I think he is a good read. This is probably why I am bothered. Every now and then he takes shots at people for no good reason. He could simply state that he prefers politicians who do not talk as openly about their faith as Cruz does. But that doesn't raise the heads of the intelligentsia class. Its as if he says things just to let them know that while he may be pro 2nd A he is still one of them.

I will definitely read him with a more critical lens. And maybe I'll come to the same conclusion as you.

But I can say this - I have no interest in buying his books. I'll buy books of people who I think are deserving - because I want to support their voice (e.g., Kevin Williamson, Jay Cost).

But Cooke clearly sneers at people like me - so why should I support him financially.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:48 AM (gmeXX)

216
"Do you recycle?" he said.

"Do you suck dick?" I replied
Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:47 AM (x3YFz)

You are my new hero.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 10:48 AM (2Ojst)

217 Worst part of jury duty is dealing with idiot jurors.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2015 10:48 AM (F2IAQ)

218 Indiana is considering installing "Baby Boxes" where parents can
"surrender" newborns anonymously instead of whipping them into
dumpsters. Wow.


I'm on record as thinking this is a great idea, but everytime I read an article about them I get pissed because all the articles say "the legislature may allow" and I get all WHO THE CFUKING FCUK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THAT YOU GET TO KFUCING "ALLOW' PEOPLE TO NOT LET BABIES DIE, YOU FKUCING CFUKERS?!

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:48 AM (/kI1Q)

219 Anon I saw that broad. How you can age beautifully. Like an infomercial but on PBS. Or Wayne Dyer. Same thing,

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:48 AM (zOTsN)

220 But Cooke clearly sneers at people like me - so why should I support him financially.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:48 AM (gmeXX)

it's almost like he's writing at us instead of to us..........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2015 10:48 AM (u8GsB)

221 204 I love that painting. A man tenderly burns the corpse of his wife sitting with the drifter he paid to do it, before shooting him in the face, torching his cabin, and riding his horse off into the west. It's like Oregon Trail.


Now that's just pure poetry! (snif)

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 10:49 AM (7ObY1)

222 I did three years of "service" in the Peace Corps. Like most other
volunteers, I never did so much drinking and dancing in my life. Rest of
the time was spent looking for something useful to do, which was near
impossible without money, tools, vehicles or computers. I worked
average of maybe 10 hours a week, which is about 10 hours a week more
than 90% of volunteers since I actually had some relevant experience.

Don't believe the glowing Descriptions of
Service you may run across by ex-volunteers. Mostly BS that Peace Corps coaches people what
to write in exit sessions (which is why they all sound the same) Most useful thing Peace Corps did was complete my transition into full conservative as it made blindingly clear the futility of touchy-feely govt programs aimed at helping people.

AmeriCorps
the govt service program is probably the same but a domestic version. I
ran across some while doing volunteer work for the Red Cross years
ago. Nice kids but out much effort for mor ethan short periods. This is
the fundamental problem with volunteer organizations, especially those
that want to save the world. Most people will only work for hard for
free (i.e. giving back) for short periods before they lose interest or
become disillusioned.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 24, 2015 10:49 AM (1BQGO)

223 So, I guess it's just too difficult for Indiana residents to just dump their unwanted spawn at a nearby fire station?

Or is this to protect them from being seen and actually feeling some shame about said spawn dumping?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 10:49 AM (V+8gv)

224 I do think God is a bit of a dick.



Job certainly thought so.



I actually don't have a problem with people who are angry at God.
In many cases, I've found people who are angry at God are closer to the
heart of Christianity than many (not necessarily "most" but many) of the
ones who have beatific expressions and talk about how God blessed them
because the bird pooped 2 feet to the left.



Heck, *I* have been angry at God a time or two.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 10:47 AM (kff5f)


Nope. The universe is working as intended.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:49 AM (x3YFz)

225 "Do you recycle?" he said.

"Do you suck dick?" I replied
Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:47 AM (x3YFz)


Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 10:49 AM (7ObY1)

226 Wasn't Cooke on an Ace Podcast a while back?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:49 AM (0LHZx)

227 I'll add another favorite: "raise awareness"

-
Raising awareness is almost as good as actually doing something.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 24, 2015 10:50 AM (j6e8f)

228 Yea, Mexico could be better, but Mexico and Canada are more like siblings we have to defend out of necessity, than friends we get to choose.

Australia has been blessed with the best neighbors of all, none.

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at March 24, 2015 10:50 AM (TlMTA)

229 The fire - this is Russia? Maybe boiling birch sap?

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 10:50 AM (EJo3N)

230 Worst part of jury duty is dealing with idiot jurors.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

The worst part is the idiot baliffs that herd jurors like animals, and periodically give fifth grade lectures on civic duty.

Posted by: mongo at March 24, 2015 10:50 AM (Spluw)

231 200 Hydrolics. Not hydro lids. Wtf I pad

--

Them hydro lids are the worst.
If'n they flip it's game over.
*nods sagely*

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:50 AM (cbfNE)

232 AllenG - shouldn't God be angry at us? And yet he is not. Powerful stuff.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:50 AM (gmeXX)

233 Cooke never says anything useful. Wasn't he the one clutching his pearls a few weeks ago over Walker's scary rhetoric?

Posted by: Lauren at March 24, 2015 10:51 AM (6qb6F)

234 I'll add another favorite: "raise awareness"


who in the fcuk is not "aware" of cancer, I always ask myself.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 10:51 AM (7ObY1)

235 "Australia has been blessed with the best neighbors of all, none. "


Heh.


Australia: Fcuk you, go away.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2015 10:52 AM (LA7Cm)

236 Something about the great big fancy mega churches and millions in donations rolling in that don't scream "salt of the Earth."

Yup. We are specifically warned against building large lavish churches in the NT.

I had another good conversation with my guitar-playing buddy the other night. He started going off on "the evil rich" so I had to remind him that money is like fire and there are lots of good people doing good things with money every day, you just don't hear much about it.

Made him think. Actually, it stopped him in his rhetorical tracks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 10:52 AM (0HooB)

237 I found the RINOs burning Ted Cruz in effigy.

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at March 24, 2015 10:52 AM (k6qnL)

238 Anon I saw that broad. How you can age beautifully. Like an infomercial but on PBS. Or Wayne Dyer. Same thing,"

The two or three minutes I watched was utterly amazing - "train wreck" is too kind of a description.

It was utterly bizarre. But they'd all laugh at either Cruz or Osteen.

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 24, 2015 10:52 AM (KnbYp)

239 @75

Reparations have been paid many times over for the stain of slavery.

First in the blood of the men who faught a bloody civil war to end it.

Second in the laws and amendments that were passed to make slaves full citizens under the law equals of all men

Third in the trillions of dollars in direct and indirect transfers to affected groups.

And last in laws of affirmative discrimination and preferencing.

The bill has been paid in full and then some.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 24, 2015 10:52 AM (4HFY9)

240 Plane descended for eight minutes then smashed into mountainside. No distress signals from the plane.

Weird.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 24, 2015 10:14 AM (JtwS4)


CFIT? (controlled flight into terrain; it's a category of flight accident)

Posted by: Achmed the muslim horticulturalist at March 24, 2015 10:53 AM (KefbY)

241 It is actually too difficult for Hoosiers to make any effort to get rid of their unwanted offspring. There has been a rash of dumpster babies in Indiana. It is sad and disturbing.

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at March 24, 2015 10:53 AM (TlMTA)

242 232 AllenG - shouldn't God be angry at us? And yet he is not. Powerful stuff.
Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:50 AM (gmeXX)

after six years of Obama, you still think that?

You are a saint

Posted by: MikeH at March 24, 2015 10:53 AM (84oau)

243 I'm on record as thinking this is a great idea,

I guess I'm too old and stuck on why anyone would throw a baby out in the first place. Seems like it will make it too easy but better than a dumpster I guess. Fcuking world is nuts.

Posted by: dartist at March 24, 2015 10:53 AM (ahBY0)

244 controlled flight into terrain"

Otherwise known as "auger in". Horrific.

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 24, 2015 10:53 AM (KnbYp)

245 Anon she was flapping around in this blue dress, upper arms jiggling, panting

It was ridiculous. Couldn't look away

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:54 AM (zOTsN)

246
Getting Godawful tired of people who make a career out of sniping at the country.

Bothers you so fucking badly, go live somewhere else.

I mean to stay here in this most exceptional place.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 24, 2015 10:54 AM (jeCnD)

247 Add my name to the list of those viscerally repulsed by Olsteen (and I'd never even heard of the guy until this thread; my reaction is entirely based on the still photos of him).

Michelle Obama popularized "the scowl of the incompetent supervisor." Olsteen appears to be doing the same thing with "the smile of the undetected cannibal."

Posted by: jwpaine at March 24, 2015 10:54 AM (a3NCX)

248 "Yup. We are specifically warned against building large lavish churches in the NT. "


Where I grew up in a little town nearby they would hold church in a pavilion. Out in the open, 50-75 people.


That seems "right" to me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2015 10:55 AM (LA7Cm)

249
There is a young cowboy, he lives on the range. His horse and his cattle are his only companions.

Posted by: James Taylor, Soother of Nations at March 24, 2015 10:14 AM (ZKGnj)




He's been plowing the fields all day, Walking behind that bay

And he thinks to himself "from behind she's a good looking horse"


http://tinyurl.com/l8em3ku

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 24, 2015 10:55 AM (SpnVI)

250
So, I guess it's just too difficult for Indiana residents to just dump their unwanted spawn at a nearby fire station?


There was a dumped baby near my work last year--dumped it less than a block from a fire station in a warehouse bathroom (and went back to work!?). When a cow-orker called 911 after finding the baby, that was the station that responded. Baby lived, vagina charged with attempted murder, so not the worst ending.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:55 AM (/kI1Q)

251 The left never does this. No matter who is running for the DNC, no matter how far left, no matter how extreme, they are treated well by the punditry.

But an even slightly right of center Republican enters a race and the so-called conservative media tears him/her down.

And then people wonder why the left wins every battle. Hmmm...it's a mystery.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:56 AM (0LHZx)

252 Jury duty was a great place to meet chicks. Just treat it like speed dating and talk to everyone for 2 minutes exactly, then announce "I HAVE REACHED A VERDICT!!" and select your mate. Ask the bailiff to clear the court

Posted by: Bruce Jenner's Plastic Vag at March 24, 2015 10:56 AM (vXAXB)

253 Fox now saying there was NO distress call from the plane

Posted by: Baldy at March 24, 2015 10:56 AM (sEXjW)

254 Heard that once Bruce has become a woman he is going to be on DWTS. How big is he? Who wd partner with him? Are these people nuts? I dont believe it.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 24, 2015 10:56 AM (iQIUe)

255 I have no dog in this fight, but how odd to judge a man by a photo and never having heard him speak

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 10:56 AM (zOTsN)

256 Anon she was flapping around in this blue dress, upper arms jiggling, panting

It was ridiculous. Couldn't look away"

Same here. It was a real freak show.... which I like to use as a rejoinder to those I know who trash "faux news" and such

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 24, 2015 10:56 AM (KnbYp)

257 I read this article not too long ago about this minister who saved a lot of babies in (was it China? or South Korea?) by installing one of those Baby Boxes.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:56 AM (cbfNE)

258 "194
Whoever listed nations that the USA should defend to the death
excluded Mexico. We share too big a border with Mexico to let some
Stalin take them over. We would have to defend them.



If it wasn't for the resulting political, logistical, and other
nightmares, I'd just annex the whole pile and call it the "Southern
Resource and Buffer Zone".



Mexico and the US have a mutual curse: We're neighbors.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 10:43 AM (DT3rQ)"

Do it in stages. Start with Baja California. How much is land worth in San Diego? How much is land worth in Tijuana? The only difference is which country they are in. Baja has 2000 miles of beach front property. Developing that to US standards would keep tens of thousands of people employed for decades and provide some nice places for Baby Boomers to retire to. It would also help to work out the processes by which the rest of the country can be absorbed.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 10:56 AM (KDbAT)

259 Jury duty was a great place to meet chicks. Just treat it like speed dating and talk to everyone for 2 minutes exactly, then announce "I HAVE REACHED A VERDICT!!" and select your mate. Ask the bailiff to clear the court
Posted by: Bruce Jenner's Plastic Vag

This has my vote for thread winner.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 24, 2015 10:57 AM (Spluw)

260 I guess I'm too old and stuck on why anyone would throw a baby out in the first place.

Same reasons you'd have an abortion, I guess.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:57 AM (/kI1Q)

261 Again I don't think NR will become the tip of the spear in a fight against Cruz because Nordlinger won't allow it.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at March 24, 2015 10:57 AM (dkHoZ)

262 And then people wonder why the left wins every battle. Hmmm...it's a mystery.

----

Well they don't win every battle.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:57 AM (gmeXX)

263 "Do you recycle?" he said.

"Do you suck dick?" I replied
Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 10:47 AM (x3YFz)


Only recycled dick.

Posted by: Recycler at March 24, 2015 10:57 AM (W5DcG)

264 it's almost like he's writing at us instead of to us..........

Nice.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 24, 2015 10:58 AM (evdj2)

265 Friend says he's sitting in a room with 200 other people, waiting to see if they get called. Thinks they're going to know by 1pm. Yay, sitting with 200 strangers, what fun. I call at 5pm tomorrow to see if my number is up. Since this was a requested postponement, I am Juror #2. They rotate what numbers they use, 1-50, 50-100, and so on, so there's still a chance I won't have to go.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2015 10:58 AM (2cS/G)

266 Since Indiana's safe-haven baby dump law was passed fifteen years ago, 13 babies have been safe havened and 33 are known to have been abandoned illegally.
(Source: National Catholic Registry)

Posted by: RioBravo at March 24, 2015 10:58 AM (NUqwG)

267 The baby box preacher was South Korean.
Heartbreaking story.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at March 24, 2015 10:59 AM (JgC5a)

268 Again I don't think NR will become the tip of the spear in a fight against Cruz because Nordlinger won't allow it.

----

And Ponnura is a friend. That helps.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:59 AM (gmeXX)

269 I read this article not too long ago about this minister who saved a lot
of babies in (was it China? or South Korea?) by installing one of those
Baby Boxes.


There was one in China they had to close after just a few months because at the rate of 2-3 babies per day, the orphanage filled up and they couldn't house any more.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:59 AM (/kI1Q)

270 Baby dumping was all over during the depression

My one grandfather was a foundling in Baltimore rip station back then

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 10:59 AM (EJo3N)

271 Yup South Korea.

http://bit.ly/1Cmc0jm

(Pastor) Lee Jong-rak is the creator of the Baby Box. His Baby Box is the first and only box in Korea that is for collecting abandoned babies who are physically or mentally handicapped, or are just unwanted by their mothers.

Hundreds of unwanted babies are abandoned on the side of the street in South Korea every year. Jong-rak knew he needed to set up a way to save the lives of these precious babies. He built a drop box on the side of his home with a humble sign reading, "Place to leave babies."

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 10:59 AM (cbfNE)

272 260 I guess I'm too old and stuck on why anyone would throw a baby out in the first place.

Same reasons you'd have an abortion, I guess.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 10:57 AM (/kI1Q)

Abortion is horrific, but leaves some room for self-delusion. Literally throwing a newborn baby out like so much trash takes an even higher level of callous disregard for human life.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 10:59 AM (2Ojst)

273 262 And then people wonder why the left wins every battle. Hmmm...it's a mystery.

----

Well they don't win every battle.
Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:57 AM (gmeXX)

__________

Notice I said battle, not election. Sure the left will lose the occasional election. But the long term battles....the left has an almost perfect record over the past 30 years. Exception is guns. Everything else, the left has got what it wanted....nationalized health care, 50% on welfare, highest corporate tax rate in the world, etc, etc

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 10:59 AM (0LHZx)

274 They have had the baby box thing in NJ for about 10 years

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:00 AM (zOTsN)

275 OT, looks like Ted Cruz failed to secure the domain name of tedcruz.com.
It is being run by the Obama people.
Don't take my word for it, just go there.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at March 24, 2015 11:00 AM (JgC5a)

276 What's all this talk about babies?
It's as if you have forgotten about me.

Posted by: Granny at March 24, 2015 11:00 AM (F2IAQ)

277 274 They have had the baby box thing in NJ for about 10 years
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:00 AM (zOTsN)

Can you take a baby, leave a baby?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 11:01 AM (2Ojst)

278 @273

And with regards to guns what they haven't been able to achieve through the front door they are trying through the back door.

They never stop.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 24, 2015 11:01 AM (4HFY9)

279 I never have to serve on a jury because Texas allows for an automatic exemption of primary caregivers for children under 5.

I plan to use this loophole to claim that I do not have a jury of my peers should I ever find myself on trial.

Posted by: Lauren at March 24, 2015 11:01 AM (6qb6F)

280 Apparently in South Korea, being a single mom is still a huge stigma (you get kicked out of your family, lose your job, etc) so most pregnant women opt to abort. Those who don't frequently abandon their babies.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 11:01 AM (cbfNE)

281 They dump a lot of babies and children in Greece also, present day. People have no money, they just abandon them on the street.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at March 24, 2015 11:02 AM (JgC5a)

282 You wanna talk creepy Televangelists, I give you Joseph Prince.

Not because he's Asian. It's the wireless head set/stalking the stage like an animal combo that weirds me out.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 11:02 AM (7ObY1)

283 Re: Baby Boxes

Here in Indy that seems to be an issue even though we have a "no questions asked" policy for anyone to drop off an unwanted newborn at a hospital, police station or fire station. But we still have dumpster babies, proving that some people should indeed be forcibly sterilized for the good of themselves and society.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 24, 2015 11:02 AM (PtTYB)

284 Oh, and fuck Dick Lugar.
http://is.gd/klEbYm

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 11:02 AM (/kI1Q)

285 I had another good conversation with my guitar-playing buddy the other night. He started going off on "the evil rich" so I had to remind him that money is like fire and there are lots of good people doing good things with money every day, you just don't hear much about it.

Made him think. Actually, it stopped him in his rhetorical tracks.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at Marc

Good on you BB. Evil Rich is such a subjective term. Am I evil rich? Well to the 26 year old kid working 30 hours per week making $9.00 hour, living in mom's basement, $75K in debt with student loans. I am. To the 55 year old doctor who has been in practice for nearly 30 years, kids all gone, Mrs. Dr also working. I guess to them I wouldn't be an evil rich person.

Money is not evil, the love of if is.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:02 AM (l1zOH)

286 Re: God being Angry with us.

Yes. He should be.
And I'm eternally thankful that He isn't.

But I believe that God would rather we be honest about our feelings/beliefs about him at any given time. So, yes, sometimes people are going to be angry with God- and being honest about that is better than *not* being honest about it.

I *also* believe that, given enough thought/study/distance, you will realize that it was you who was in the wrong much more often than not.

But there are always those instances of "the rain falls on the righteous and the unrighteous." Sometimes, like Job, "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 24, 2015 11:02 AM (kff5f)

287 Hi,
We're the only stoners at Liberty U. Please check our dorm room with a sniffer dog.

Posted by: RedShirts!11!ty at March 24, 2015 11:03 AM (DL2i+)

288 Ah Impressionism, not just for the French.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:03 AM (y4+1Q)

289 277 274 They have had the baby box thing in NJ for about 10 years
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:00 AM (zOTsN)

Can you take a baby, leave a baby?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 11:01 AM (2Ojst)



On Wednesdays, you get to take two babies if you have a coupon.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 11:03 AM (7ObY1)

290 I'll just leave this here.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/oarhvqf

Of course it's Floriduh.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 24, 2015 11:03 AM (h4vJk)

291 "243
I'm on record as thinking this is a great idea,

I guess I'm too
old and stuck on why anyone would throw a baby out in the first place.
Seems like it will make it too easy but better than a dumpster I guess.
Fcuking world is nuts.


Posted by: dartist at March 24, 2015 10:53 AM (ahBY0)"

This is not a new thing. Going back at least to the Middle Ages, churches had small rotating doors in which mothers could put their infant without being seen. Anybody you know with the surname "Esposito" had an ancestor who was one of those children.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 11:03 AM (KDbAT)

292 My understanding from reading the South Korean story is that a great number of the abandoned babies are disabled

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:03 AM (zOTsN)

293 282 You wanna talk creepy Televangelists, I give you Joseph Prince.

Not because he's Asian. It's the wireless head set/stalking the stage like an animal combo that weirds me out.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 11:02 AM (7ObY1)

Never heard of him. In the first picture of him that popped up on Google he looks like a Vegas illusionist.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 11:03 AM (2Ojst)

294 284 Oh, and fuck Dick Lugar.
http://is.gd/klEbYm
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 11:02 AM (/kI1Q

Not with some 'ettes dildo or a Usinger brat.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:03 AM (eeTCA)

295 So this is close to home. Pro aborts threw a Molotov cocktail at people praying outside the planned parenthood in Austin.

Posted by: Lauren at March 24, 2015 11:04 AM (6qb6F)

296 Yes. South Koreans are obsessed with beauty and perfection.
Their plastic surgery rates surpass even Hollywod.

Posted by: @votermom at March 24, 2015 11:04 AM (cbfNE)

297 I'm gonna give the Randians a pass on this one, only because attendance at the Cruz speech was mandatory.

They're still unclassy creeps in general. But if my university forced me to attend, say, a Fauxcahontas speech, I'd probably do something similar.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 11:05 AM (7ObY1)

298 That's railway station not rip

Also should say he was previous to the depression like ww1

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 11:05 AM (EJo3N)

299 295 So this is close to home. Pro aborts threw a Molotov cocktail at people praying outside the planned parenthood in Austin.
Posted by: Lauren at March 24, 2015 11:04 AM (6qb6F

My guess though it was an environmentally friendly M. Cocktail. Probably very low in emissions.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:06 AM (eeTCA)

300 @275

According to Whois lookup, the record for the domain was created in 2004. So either Ted Cruz or people affiliated with him owned it and it's been high jacked or somebody has been squatting on it for a decade.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 24, 2015 11:06 AM (4HFY9)

301 proving that some people should indeed be forcibly sterilized for the good of themselves and society.

That one would get my vote. Until then they'll probably have to make the boxes bigger.

Posted by: dartist at March 24, 2015 11:06 AM (ahBY0)

302 Never heard of him. In the first picture of him that popped up on Google he looks like a Vegas illusionist.

As an, er, insomniac, I see him on TV in the middle of the night. Maybe that's the only time he's on.

He comes across as phony as Liz Warren's Native heritage.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 24, 2015 11:06 AM (7ObY1)

303 Going back at least to the Middle Ages, churches had small rotating
doors in which mothers could put their infant without being seen.


They didn't have to wait for those cfuking fcuks in the statehouse to decide they were "allowed", I guess.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 11:07 AM (/kI1Q)

304 Does Esposito mean deposit or something?

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:08 AM (zOTsN)

305 The Duhka tribe of Mongolia, their reindeer, and where they live in photos.

http://www.ufunk.net/en/photos/hamid-sardar-afkhami/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:08 AM (y4+1Q)

306 What did the Randians do that was so bad at the Cruz speech. My understanding is they simply wore a red shirt that supported Paul. Did they do more. If that is all they did, then kudos to them. A clever way to support your preferred candidate.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:08 AM (gmeXX)

307 For a donation of only $10, we will send you a prayer cloth.

Posted by: Rev. Ike at March 24, 2015 11:09 AM (F2IAQ)

308 "For a donation of $10 a month, you can keep an Ewok in Valu-Rite."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:11 AM (y4+1Q)

309 Wait, I'm getting a word of knowledge...aaaand, it's gone!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 11:11 AM (2Ojst)

310 What did the Randians do that was so bad at the Cruz speech. My understanding is they simply wore a red shirt that supported Paul. Did they do more. If that is all they did, then kudos to them. A clever way to support your preferred candidate.
Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:08 AM (gmeXX)
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They were just located behind Cruz so they are in all the videos and photos from the front. I also do not see the problem with this. It is good, fun politics!

Posted by: RioBravo at March 24, 2015 11:11 AM (NUqwG)

311 Press those afflicted parts to the screen.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 24, 2015 11:11 AM (evdj2)

312 In doctor's waiting room being forced to listen to the view. I'd rather be in the barrel.

Posted by: TBolt69 at March 24, 2015 11:11 AM (TnvA8)

313 For a donation of only $1 million, we will not destroy your business.

Posted by: Rev. Jackson at March 24, 2015 11:11 AM (F2IAQ)

314 But there are always those instances of "the rain falls on the righteous and the unrighteous." Sometimes, like Job, "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

*does Forrest Gump wave*

I bitch at Him a lot. I also don't ask Him for anything, since all I ever get back is "No."

And yeah, I know I'm weird.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 11:11 AM (0HooB)

315 And yeah, I know I'm weird.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 11:11 AM (0HooB)

We're all weird here.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 11:12 AM (2Ojst)

316 OK, this one is pretty good. A couple fo days ago Maggies Farm linked this article about "50 Shades Of Grey".

The book sold 100 million copies and the film is very successful, despite the story being crap (or so I'm told). Why?

The answer, according to this article, is that 100 million women apparently like porn, just like all their male counterparts. Oh, yeah.


bit.ly/1Cme37d

Posted by: MTF, Vote For Someone The GOP Insiders Hate at March 24, 2015 11:12 AM (LISuA)

317 For a donation of a million, you can buy influence through the Clinton Foundation. love for sale

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:12 AM (zOTsN)

318 Posted by: RioBravo at March 24, 2015 11:11 AM (NUqwG)


If you don't want pranks like this played do not go to colleges and do not go to one that makes participation in the event mandatory.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has gone to Plaid! at March 24, 2015 11:12 AM (hLRSq)

319 Press those afflicted parts to the screen.
Posted by: toby928
--------------------

Heal!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 24, 2015 11:13 AM (F2IAQ)

320 Romney went to liberty. Republicans have nearly always gone to liberty. Why is this different. Are we just looking for things to bitch about?

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:14 AM (zOTsN)

321 >>Cooke isn't a very clear thinker. He doesn't think things through to a conclusion, he starts with the conclusion and works his way back. It's sloppy and hacktastic.

Cooke's assessment of Cruz was not based so much on policy which he said a number of times he agreed with but style. He thinks Cruz comes off too smooth and preachy thus the comparison to Olsteen who is the epitome of too smooth and preachy for my taste.

Overall, Cooke is pretty complimentary of Cruz agreeing with his policy positions and agreeing that he is quite often the smartest guy in the room but he thinks he needs to dial down the sermonizing and be a better retail politician. Not exactly a scathing review.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2015 11:14 AM (g1DWB)

322 Completely off topic - but if Hillary is the nominee she should not do any debates or give any speeches. She should just be on the ballot box.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:14 AM (gmeXX)

323 "Send your money to God, but address it to me."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 11:14 AM (0HooB)

324 Barack Obama insisted that Benjamin Netanyahu remove his ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer. Netanyahu said he would not. Obama pressed the case. Netanyahu said he will not.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 24, 2015 10:10 AM (IXrOn)


Hope Bibi told him, "Fuck you, shvartze."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 24, 2015 11:14 AM (zF6Iw)

325 For a donation of a million, you can buy influence through the Clinton Foundation. love for sale
Posted by: ThunderB
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Worked for Marc Rich.

Posted by: Eric Holder at March 24, 2015 11:15 AM (F2IAQ)

326 It's not like he put up roman columns.

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:15 AM (zOTsN)

327 Heal!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 24, 2015 11:13

coffee on keyboard. thanks. Hammer.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:15 AM (2Aj5D)

328 Press those afflicted parts to the screen.

Posted by: toby928

--------------------


Heal!

Posted by: Mike Hammer


Unless its the Right Reverend Cat that resides at Mike Hammer's house.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:15 AM (y4+1Q)

329 I bitch at Him a lot. I also don't ask Him for anything, since all I ever get back is "No."



And yeah, I know I'm weird.>>>

Sounds like a pretty standard father son relationship.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 24, 2015 11:15 AM (aVYsC)

330 Are we just looking for things to bitch about?

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New around here?

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:15 AM (gmeXX)

331 "Are we just looking for things to bitch about?"


Is this a trick question?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has gone to Plaid! at March 24, 2015 11:15 AM (hLRSq)

332 If you don't want pranks like this played do not go to colleges and do not go to one that makes participation in the event mandatory.
Posted by: Mikey NTH

This.
Some dem thought she was da bomb by staging an event outside the campaign office of her opponent. Someone was smart enough to herd a bunch of people outside and to the windows with signs. so her photo-op featured her opponents' signs front left AND center.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 24, 2015 11:16 AM (Spluw)

333 Politically I really hope by the end of 2015, Hillary's picture will only be found on milk cartons.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:16 AM (y4+1Q)

334 . Are we just looking for things to bitch about?
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:14 AM (zOTsN

Uh, yeah. For sure.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:16 AM (2Aj5D)

335 8
People Charles Cooke does not like - Palin, Cruz, and Joel Osteen.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 10:10 AM (gmeXX)
Cooke the old Tory doesn't like hicks. We don't know our place.

Posted by: Lester at March 24, 2015 11:17 AM (2UPXV)

336 Interesting visual concept, but the log cabin is rendered too simplistically/cartoonishly for my taste.

And are they burning carbonic things like wood or coal in that cabin? I hate the way burning carbon is being glorified and romanticized and convinces idiotic morons that they are not destroying the environment by doing such things. This painting ought to be burned. Or at least destroyed. And is that a fire on the front lawn? What's up with that shit? That's some major carbon right there.

Posted by: Al Gore at March 24, 2015 11:17 AM (xkSSa)

337 Any serious run by a SWM is a slap in the face to the wonderful
diversity of the party. I wonder if any of the SWM in the Dem party
thinking long term career advancement are aware of this yet?


I think Martin O'Malley is aware and is hoping that if he runs now he can head off that door closing.

I also think that door's already closed.

Speaking of O'Malley, it was nice to see the MD border signs finally changed to say Larry Hogan. I don't think Finnegan gets nearly enough shit for his "there is no way anyone will defeat Anthony Brown" post on the HQ.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2015 11:18 AM (B/VB5)

338 Hope Bibi told him, "Fuck you, shvartze."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 24, 2015 11:14 AM (zF6Iw)
----

If Obama had a brain he would never have accepted the idiots' appointment to begin with. Kick Dermer out of the country!

Posted by: RioBravo at March 24, 2015 11:18 AM (NUqwG)

339 Well if we are looking for things to bitch about, he needs to be less scripted, get that grease out of his hair, get a better tailor, and relax

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:18 AM (zOTsN)

340 So this is close to home. Pro aborts threw a Molotov cocktail at people praying outside the planned parenthood in Austin.
Posted by: Lauren at March 24, 2015 11:04 AM (6qb6F

My guess though it was an environmentally friendly M. Cocktail. Probably very low in emissions.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:06 AM (eeTCA)


Recycled glass bottle.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 24, 2015 11:18 AM (W5DcG)

341 Yikes! Pray for the families. An Airbus has gone down in the French Alps with 150 aboard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/world/europe/germanwings-crash.html?_r=0

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:19 AM (y4+1Q)

342 Cruz is my guy and even I would've had staged kind of passive agressive snark if I'd been REQUIRED to attend

Posted by: Chico Escuela at March 24, 2015 11:20 AM (MHKOK)

343 I get angry at God from time to time. Mostly because I don't have the slightest clue why He did whatever he just did.

So I pray for understanding. It...seems the best way to handle it. (I can tolerate many things if I see a good to it.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:20 AM (DT3rQ)

344 Sounds like a pretty standard father son relationship.

Funny you should mention that since my dad committed suicide two months before I was born and Mumsy Dearest never remarried. So no experience to work from.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 11:20 AM (0HooB)

345 Also, we need a scorecard so latecomers know what territory we've covered. Yeah, I know, Pixytech, but still.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:21 AM (DT3rQ)

346
The woman who wrote that crappy 50 shades book is now a $100 million bucks richer. She's my idol.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 24, 2015 11:22 AM (iQIUe)

347 Theory - conservatives will do better in the next 50 years because conservatives leaders learn in college to argue and defend and think critically about their positions and beliefs. Liberals are not put to that test. The future payoff of this will be significance. Liberals will not have the same training.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:22 AM (gmeXX)

348 In case I didn't properly present the "50 Shades" article, the author is someone who could be posting here,

Instead of sex in the city, I found depressed, beaten men-- cautious and passive around women. They were alpha, demographically, but they sure didn't act alpha...I'm not the only female who's had it up to herewith politically correct men.

Posted by: MTF, Vote For Someone The GOP Insiders Hate at March 24, 2015 11:22 AM (LISuA)

349 The woman who wrote that crappy 50 shades book is now a $100 million bucks richer. She's my idol.

Not bad for hopped-up fanfic. P. T. Barnum lowballed the numbers.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:22 AM (DT3rQ)

350 And are they burning carbonic things like wood or coal in that cabin? I hate the way burning carbon is being glorified and romanticized and convinces idiotic morons that they are not destroying the environment by doing such things. This painting ought to be burned. Or at least destroyed. And is that a fire on the front lawn? What's up with that shit? That's some major carbon right there.
Posted by: Al Gore
-------------------------

We're all over that. Wood burning stoves are in for another round of regulation:

"It seems that even wood isn’t green or renewable enough anymore. The EPA has recently banned the production and sale of 80 percent of America’s current wood-burning stoves,..."
http://tinyurl.com/kraqhbt

Posted by: Eric Holder at March 24, 2015 11:23 AM (F2IAQ)

351 Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2015 11:14 AM (g1DWB)

I agree but as someone quipped above , Cooke did in his writing exactly what he alleges Cruz does when he speaks.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at March 24, 2015 11:24 AM (dkHoZ)

352 The future payoff of this will be significance.

One would hope so but, Four Legs Good! has proven effective so far.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 24, 2015 11:24 AM (evdj2)

353 I get angry at God from time to time. Mostly because I don't have the slightest clue why He did whatever he just did.



So I pray for understanding. It...seems the best way to handle it. (I can tolerate many things if I see a good to it.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:20 AM (DT3rQ)


I changed my perspective to understand the he isn't "doing what he just did."

This while thing got started about 15 billion years ago when He set it in motion. I highly doubt he's poring over the planet making things happen like moving chess pieces on a board. It just is what it is.

And who am I to second guess the guy who made billions upon gazillions of galaxies with exploding stars, sharks, and peanut m n m's? It's like an ant trying to understand how to build a computer.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:24 AM (x3YFz)

354
343 I get angry at God from time to time. Mostly because I don't have the slightest clue why He did whatever he just did.
So I pray for understanding. It...seems the best way to handle it. (I can tolerate many things if I see a good to it.)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:20 AM (DT3rQ)
***
Maybe if you listened to more of my speeches, my thought processes would be more apparent to you, you moron.

Posted by: Barry Hussein Obama at March 24, 2015 11:24 AM (xkSSa)

355 Theory - conservatives will do better in the next 50 years because conservatives leaders learn in college to argue and defend and think critically about their positions and beliefs. Liberals are not put to that test. The future payoff of this will be significance. Liberals will not have the same training.

The assumption that anything other than preferred-class legal coercion and physical force will have anything to do with politics is potentially overly optimistic.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:24 AM (DT3rQ)

356 Maybe if you listened to more of my speeches, my thought processes would be more apparent to you, you moron.
Posted by: Barry Hussein Obama


Well I'm not trained with an electron microscope, so

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:25 AM (DT3rQ)

357 343 I get angry at God from time to time. Mostly because I don't have the slightest clue why He did whatever he just did.

So I pray for understanding. It...seems the best way to handle it. (I can tolerate many things if I see a good to it.)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist a

Don't most of us?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:25 AM (2Aj5D)

358 If you want a petulant sky god moving humans on a chess board, there is always Zeus. When he isn't getting into the tunic of various nubile human females which causes Hera must grief as she deals with all of his bimbo eruptions.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:26 AM (y4+1Q)

359 This while thing got started about 15 billion years ago when He set it in motion. I highly doubt he's poring over the planet making things happen like moving chess pieces on a board. It just is what it is.

Eh, I see it as a bit of both--the system moves as He set it to, but He does tweak it from time to time.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:26 AM (DT3rQ)

360 Biden/O'Malley 16

Dumb and Dumber

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:26 AM (zOTsN)

361


Posted by: Eric Holder at March 24, 2015 11:23 AM (F2IAQ)


We can always burn the bodies.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:27 AM (x3YFz)

362 OK we are now debating manichaens vs. Divine watchmaker

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 11:27 AM (EJo3N)

363 The assumption that anything other than preferred-class legal coercion and physical force will have anything to do with politics is potentially overly optimistic.

----

Potentially - except that the history of Anglosphere politics has been a constant pushback on coercion of the state. It was a vocal minority who could make the argument that got the revolution started.

It may be overly optimistic, but I see no reason to succumb to a completely pessimistic view either.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:27 AM (gmeXX)

364 360 Biden/O'Malley 16

Dumb and Dumber
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:26

That screams WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:27 AM (2Aj5D)

365

All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's
Reproductive Health Choice Clinic are [proud to announce that Brattleboro will
open in April the first of its kind battered and injured Skunk recovery center.
This has been a major problem within our city and we are proud to have this
facility open. The people of Brattleboro did not mind a 1% raise in taxes to
support this good cause and protect the skunk population from extinction in our
loving city. We have also invited
Michelle Obama to the grand opening but have not heard from her yet. We hope
Presdent Obama sends someone to share in our joy of opening this grate cause
center to better help the world and to show we still hate Bush and everything
he did to stop fine cause like this.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 24, 2015 11:27 AM (Sd++4)

366 Test...for...echo...

Yeeps, I think everyone else wandered off.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:28 AM (DT3rQ)

367 Eh, I see it as a bit of both--the system moves as He set it to, but He does tweak it from time to time.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:26 AM (DT3rQ)


...would imply he made an error at the beginning, which, by definition, he didn't.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:28 AM (x3YFz)

368 Instead of sex in the city, I found depressed, beaten men-- cautious and passive around women. They were alpha, demographically, but they sure didn't act alpha...I'm not the only female who's had it up to herewith politically correct men.
Posted by: MTF, Vote For Someone The GOP Insiders Hate at March 24, 2015 11:22 AM (LISuA)

Of course, she doesn't realize that the reason those men are depressed and beaten is largely because of women in the first place.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 11:28 AM (2Ojst)

369 Potentially - except that the history of Anglosphere politics has been a constant pushback on coercion of the state. It was a vocal minority who could make the argument that got the revolution started.

And we've been importing populations from where again?

Cause, effect.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:28 AM (DT3rQ)

370 @321

I'm going to go out on a limb that Cruz's personality, demeanor and delivery are genuine and ingrained and are not easily changeable.

I too think Cruz can be a little to schmaltzy but so F--king what?

I support Cruz because a. He seems like an agenda driven conservative which is what we need right about now if we are to save this country, that is if it can be saved.

And b. He comes from Texas and can be approximated if not replaced. The other candidates like Walker, Christie and to al lesser extent Jindals cannot be replaced as easily.


But as others have said Cooke seems to have a hatred of avowed agenda driven conservatives and more than likely loves him some Jeb Bush style moderates.

Cooke is, was and will always be a dumb shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 24, 2015 11:29 AM (4HFY9)

371 Hey! Can we talk about the plane crash?

What is the best movie version of a plane crash, experienced from onboard, you have seen?

Tom Hanks going down in the FedEx biggie?

Flight 93?

Denzel all buzzed almost losing it in Flight?

Maybe CNN should be showing clips, huh? WTF. It's why we watch news about plane crashes, right? Like, what goes through your mind on the way down? Like the last spooky roller coaster ride you"ll take?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 24, 2015 11:29 AM (U6f54)

372 Biden/O'Malley?

The Plagiarist and the Idiot?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:29 AM (y4+1Q)

373 God could well be determining the fall of each raindrop. He's got all the "time" in the universe to do it in.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 24, 2015 11:29 AM (evdj2)

374 Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:24 AM (x3YFz)

Yup.... besides... most of the bad stuff can be laid at the feet of other peoples decisions...

That whole free will thing...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:30 AM (qh617)

375 God could well be determining the fall of each raindrop. He's got all the "time" in the universe to do it in.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 24, 2015 11:29 AM (evdj2)


exactly.

but cubic equation solutions evade us.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:31 AM (x3YFz)

376 If you want a petulant sky god moving humans on a chess board, there is always Zeus. When he isn't getting into the tunic of various nubile human females which causes Hera must grief as she deals with all of his bimbo eruptions.

Having more than one God is like having more than one wife. They're hard enough to figure out all by themselves, why double the trouble?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 11:31 AM (0HooB)

377 And everyone is screaming.

And then










































































Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 24, 2015 11:31 AM (U6f54)

378 would imply he made an error at the beginning, which, by definition, he didn't.

========

Which implies god as father of evil too

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 11:31 AM (EJo3N)

379 ...would imply he made an error at the beginning, which, by definition, he didn't.

I didn't say correction. Some things you can't do all at once. Remember, omnipotence means you can do anything; omniscience means you know every way to do it; omnibenevolence implies knowing the best way to do it.

Like you said, you can't really think of Him in human terms. But you can try, and it tells you useful things in the process.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:31 AM (DT3rQ)

380
Yup.... besides... most of the bad stuff can be laid at the feet of other peoples decisions...



That whole free will thing...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:30 AM (qh617)


exactly!

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:31 AM (x3YFz)

381 Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 24, 2015 11:31 AM (U6f54)

And then: The Barrel.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 11:31 AM (2Ojst)

382 This. Is CNN.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 24, 2015 11:32 AM (U6f54)

383 I think the Barrel just woke up hungry.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:32 AM (y4+1Q)

384 Lots of writers had their manuscripts rejected initially. George Orwell was told this about "Animal Farm" when he sent it to be published in America:


"It is impossible to sell animal stories in the USA."

The woman-who wrote FSOG may be your idol. Her work will not be appreciated in 50 years. while Orwell's is still remembered. Selling lots of books is no guarantee of quality of writing

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 11:32 AM (DXzRD)

385 "304
Does Esposito mean deposit or something?

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 11:08 AM (zOTsN)"

No. It means something like "exposed one". Before they had the church drop boxes, abandoned babies tended to be exposed to the elements to die on hill tops. Then the corpses would be eaten by foxes, weasels and birds. They did not have dumpsters in those days.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 11:32 AM (KDbAT)

386 And we've been importing populations from where again?

Cause, effect.

-----

That's true and definitely affects things. Yet still to some extent we have retained our Anglosphere political culture - if not to the same degree we might wish.

History suggests that there will be periods when the state will push back and the state will regain powers lost. I submit we are in such a period. But that doesn't make it permanent.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:32 AM (gmeXX)

387 would imply he made an error at the beginning, which, by definition, he didn't.



========



Which implies god as father of evil too

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 11:31 AM (EJo3N)


no, he's the father of free will, as BB said, and allows the ability for critters to choose to act in an evil manner.

Different than "father of evil."

Father of "screw it up and you own it" is more like it.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:33 AM (x3YFz)

388 That whole free will thing...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:30 AM (qh617


Not for long

Posted by: The IRS at March 24, 2015 11:33 AM (2Aj5D)

389 The Earth is due for its 6 billion year people change.

Posted by: Jiffy Lube in the sky at March 24, 2015 11:33 AM (W5DcG)

390 I'm not the only female who's had it up to herewith politically correct men.
Posted by: MTF, Vote For Someone The GOP Insiders Hate at March 24, 2015 11:22 AM (LISuA)

Of course, she doesn't realize that the reason those men are depressed and beaten is largely because of women in the first place.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 11:28 AM (2Ojst)


Within the next couple of weeks I going to go out with a Lady, who is a Silicon Valley Lawyer...

VERY Liberal in the past, but finally figured out that going against the way we are designed... the way we are programmed to be ... makes everyone unhappy...

Could be interesting...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:34 AM (qh617)

391 The Lord's ways are a mystery. The Barrel's, not so much.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 24, 2015 11:34 AM (DT3rQ)

392 My analogy of God and Free Will is like a Pachinko machine where God ,if he so chooses , just pushes the direction of the steel ball in his desired direction and lets it continue on its way.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at March 24, 2015 11:34 AM (dkHoZ)

393
388 That whole free will thing...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:30 AM (qh617


Not for long

Posted by: The IRS at March 24, 2015 11:33 AM (2Aj5D)


Damn canoe accident....

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:35 AM (qh617)

394
Interesting graphic about the flight.

http://bit.ly/1HzsQ1C

Red line is altitude in feet (left hand scale), black line is speed in knots (right hand scale).

Down 32K feet in 8 minutes, impact at just under 400 knots.

A local mayor who has flown over the crash site describes it as an absolute horror.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 24, 2015 11:35 AM (JtwS4)

395
Could be interesting...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:34 AM (qh617

And expensive. Might be cheaper to get a good hooker.

Posted by: Mi at March 24, 2015 11:35 AM (2Aj5D)

396 The Earth is due for its 6 billion year people change.



Posted by: Jiffy Lube in the sky at March 24, 2015 11:33 AM (W5DcG)


heh... The good news is humans can't get past the moon to f up the rest of the universe.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:36 AM (x3YFz)

397 damn typing skills, yeah free will and all of that.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:37 AM (2Aj5D)

398 Sure I can see being thrown in a kiln by a howling mob as a product of free will

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 11:37 AM (EJo3N)

399 heh... The good news is humans can't get past the moon to f up the rest of the universe.

I'm convinced we've been visited by aliens in the past because they haven't returned.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 11:37 AM (0HooB)

400 16 kids and 2 teachers from one high school on board, had been returning from exchange students trip.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 24, 2015 11:38 AM (JtwS4)

401 I found this to be an interesting article -although somewhat long-about anger with God.

http://tinyurl.com/kt4jj2p

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 11:38 AM (DXzRD)

402 Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:33 AM (x3YFz)

It boils down to a simple premise for me...

If God does decide everything, then we do not have Free Will.

If we do not have Free Will, then our decisions are essentially made for us.

Then how could a Just God, then JUDGE us... either send us to Heaven or Hell, based on decisions, that we didn't really make anyway?


I think its more like the old George Burns Joke... God is a Stand Up Comedian, playing to an audience that's afraid to laugh...


But hell.... what do I know...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:38 AM (qh617)

403 >>>Down 32K feet in 8 minutes, impact at just under 400 knots.

wow, 4,000' per minute. Almost a mile a minute if my math is right. Thats one hell of a ride.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:38 AM (2Aj5D)

404 Sure I can see being thrown in a kiln by a howling mob as a product of free will

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 11:37 AM (EJo3N)


if you're being sarcastic, it didn't work.

The mob, and the individuals in it, exercised aforementioned...

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:39 AM (x3YFz)

405 On the bright side, I'm guessing the passengers never saw it coming.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 24, 2015 11:39 AM (evdj2)

406 If you as a Gray ET met Joe Biden, would you want to come back after being groped by him?

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/selection-du-weekend-132-30.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:39 AM (y4+1Q)

407 I'm convinced we've been visited by aliens in the past because they haven't returned.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 11:37 AM (0HooB

I take it you have seen Michelle Obama's mother as well?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:39 AM (2Aj5D)

408 Not being sarcastic

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (EJo3N)

409 Another good book on the subject about anger with God is "Why Is this happening to me?" by Wayne Monbleau and various books on the subject including "Disappointment With God" by Phillip Yancey.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (DXzRD)

410 399 heh... The good news is humans can't get past the moon to f up the rest of the universe.

I'm convinced we've been visited by aliens in the past because they haven't returned.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 11:37 AM (0HooB)


Actually.... around the time of the Moon shots, there were lots of UFO sightings, which have tapered off...

I've always wondered... did they come down and tell our Governments... 'stay home'...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (qh617)

411 The time I was on a jury,

I'd have never made it thru voir dire sp? last time. Civil slip + fall, she's got a totaled knee, he's there for "loss of service?"

I was debating "I have no unrude answer" or "til death do us part not til I can't get doggie style".

Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (DL2i+)

412 For those who's German ist nicht gut

http://www.airlinereporter.com/2015/03/germanwings-flight-9525-crashes-france/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (y4+1Q)

413 It boils down to a simple premise for me...



If God does decide everything, then we do not have Free Will.



If we do not have Free Will, then our decisions are essentially made for us.



Then how could a Just God, then JUDGE us... either send us to Heaven
or Hell, based on decisions, that we didn't really make anyway?





I think its more like the old George Burns Joke... God is a Stand Up Comedian, playing to an audience that's afraid to laugh...





But hell.... what do I know...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:38 AM (qh617)


you do have free will. Not sure what you're asking. Evil has to exist in order for you to be free, capiche?

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (x3YFz)

414 If God does decide everything, then we do not have Free Will.

-----

As an aside, I have struggled with the concept of hell for a long time - not its existence - which I accept. But the idea that actions on earth (or the rejection of God during life) could land you in hell for eternity. Do we lose our free will in hell? Can one choose in hell that they no longer reject God and be allowed in heaven?

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (gmeXX)

415 406 If you as a Gray ET met Joe Biden, would you want to come back after being groped by him?

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/selection-du-weekend-132-30.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:39 AM (y4+1Q)

I'd be perfectly happy that the script was flipped on those noseless anus-probing bastiches.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 24, 2015 11:41 AM (2Ojst)

416 >>I agree but as someone quipped above , Cooke did in his writing exactly what he alleges Cruz does when he speaks.

I'm pretty sure we could all be accused of doing it.

>>I too think Cruz can be a little to schmaltzy but so F--king what?

He's an opinion writer who gets paid to give his opinion. He may be right, he may be wrong, just another opinion. And it's not like every other candidate in history doesn't get criticized for style as much as substance. Go back to the Kennedy Nixon debate. Those who listened on radio gave Nixon the win, those who watched on TV gave it to Kennedy.

Politics is at least as much about style as anything else. Obama was elected, twice, on style over any substance. How many times have we heard pundits talk about the "who would you want to have a beer with?" question? What that hell does that have to do with substance? But that's a big piece of how we elect politicians in this day and age.

I admit that while I agree with Cruz on pretty much all policy positions I also find his style irritating. This was the true genius of Reagan, he could deliver the same message and have you wanting more. Cruz isn't at that level yet. If a little criticism of his style helps him connect better it works for me.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2015 11:41 AM (g1DWB)

417
I've always wondered... did they come down and tell our Governments... 'stay home'...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (qh617)


I'd be surprised if there wasn't an alien blockade around erf.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:42 AM (x3YFz)

418 Aliens, "We've seen your movies. You ain't going anywhere."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:43 AM (y4+1Q)

419 Do we lose our free will in hell? Can one choose in hell that they no longer reject God and be allowed in heaven?

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (gmeXX)


I think it's a place where He isn't, and you don't want to be in that place.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:43 AM (x3YFz)

420 you do have free will. Not sure what you're asking. Evil has to exist in order for you to be free, capiche?


Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (x3YFz)


Yeah.... that was an exposition on why I think we do have Free will... because otherwise judging us doesn't make sense...


But then I'm full of ... theories....

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:44 AM (qh617)

421 They're Made Out of Meat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 24, 2015 11:44 AM (evdj2)

422 And as far as FSOG, I am reminded of the journalist-whose name escapes my post middle aged brain at the moment who said something like,-"Nobody ever got rich underestimating the taste of the American public."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 11:45 AM (DXzRD)

423
350 We're all over that. Wood burning stoves are in for another round of regulation:
Posted by: Eric Holder at March 24, 2015 11:23 AM (F2IAQ)

***
Amazing, unreal. You can't even joke about things like this anymore because they really are like that. I should have just kept my mouth shut.

Posted by: Al Gore at March 24, 2015 11:45 AM (xkSSa)

424 The woman-who wrote FSOG may be your idol. Her work
will not be appreciated in 50 years. while Orwell's is still remembered.
Selling lots of books is no guarantee of quality of writing

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 11:32 AM (DXzRD)


Gee, FS. I think you had better send your sarcasm detector to the shop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 24, 2015 11:46 AM (KefbY)

425 Tschuss mein komerads.

Lunch time.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 24, 2015 11:46 AM (y4+1Q)

426 Over at Drudge - one of his stories through headlines:

Reporters give Hillary standing ovation....
After she takes no questions....
At 'Excellence in Journalism event!


Well that explains why she has a career after her disastrous performance as Sos...

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 11:46 AM (V+8gv)

427 Going to go exercise my free will and choose the evil that is Duncan Donuts.

Stay safe, critters.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:47 AM (x3YFz)

428 @ 405

Passengers, probably not.


Pilots damn sure knew.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 24, 2015 11:47 AM (jeCnD)

429
I think it's a place where He isn't, and you don't want to be in that place.
Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:43 AM (x3YFz

Well stated T9.

BTW, good to see you back.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:47 AM (2Aj5D)

430 Din'kin... whatever it's called. Chocolatey goodness awaits me!

We ride!

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:48 AM (x3YFz)

431 Anyway just trying to understand

From the first post it sounded like God doesn't get involved anymore and then it's you have free will so it all sounds pretty arid I guess

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 11:48 AM (EJo3N)

432 If God does decide everything, then we do not have Free Will.



-----



As an aside, I have struggled with the concept of hell for a long
time - not its existence - which I accept. But the idea that actions on
earth (or the rejection of God during life) could land you in hell for
eternity. Do we lose our free will in hell? Can one choose in hell
that they no longer reject God and be allowed in heaven?

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2015 11:40 AM (gmeXX)


Best description I heard of hell, is the soul is exposed to God for a moment, then removed from God's presence. No fires, no devils with pitchforks, simply the absence of God's presence, after having experienced it.


That is all the hell one would need.

Eternal? I don't know. What would a thousanth of a fraction of a second seem like after having God's presence removed? Possibly an eternity.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 11:49 AM (TOk1P)

433
BTW, good to see you back.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:47 AM (2Aj5D)


ty good to see you furry monsters as well. missed ya! /adjusts sights ;P

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:50 AM (x3YFz)

434 I admit that while I agree with Cruz on pretty much all policy positions I also find his style irritating. This was the true genius of Reagan, he could deliver the same message and have you wanting more. Cruz isn't at that level yet. If a little criticism of his style helps him connect better it works for me.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2015 11:41 AM (g1DWB)


Remember, though, Reagan was gifted with a naturally mellifluent voice, which he honed through radio broadcasts, and was also a product of the studio system which taught him how to walk, talk and present himself properly.

God knows I'm not suggesting an "image consultant" for Cruz, but I would like to see him take some lessons with a voice coach.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 24, 2015 11:50 AM (zF6Iw)

435 Gee, FS. I think you had better send your sarcasm detector to the shop.

Thanks for your concern.
One can't always tell here. We don't have voice tone or body language to react to. Perhaps they're envious of her making 100 million, not of her writing ability.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 11:50 AM (DXzRD)

436 Reminds me of the story of the native American who had just been baptized. He asked the priest
"If I had never heard of Jesus, would I have gone to Hell?"
"No" says the priest.
"THEN WHY DID YOU TELL ME???"

Posted by: navybrat at March 24, 2015 11:50 AM (JgC5a)

437 What would a thousanth of a fraction of a second seem like after having God's presence removed? Possibly an eternity.


Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 11:49 AM (TOk1P)


If I recall correctly, it's the only thing that Christ feared when he was crucified.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:51 AM (x3YFz)

438 The answer, according to this article, is that 100 million women apparently like porn, just like all their male counterparts. Oh, yeah.


bit.ly/1Cme37dPosted by: MTF, Vote For Someone The GOP Insiders Hate at March 24, 2015 11:12 AM (LISuA)******I'm an MTF myself. I like porn too. Are you pre or post-op? How's your hormone therapy going?

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at March 24, 2015 11:52 AM (xkSSa)

439 "THEN WHY DID YOU TELL ME???"

Posted by: navybrat at March 24, 2015 11:50 AM (JgC5a)

lol

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:53 AM (x3YFz)

440 "402
Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:33 AM (x3YFz)



It boils down to a simple premise for me...



If God does decide everything, then we do not have Free Will.



If we do not have Free Will, then our decisions are essentially made for us.



Then how could a Just God, then JUDGE us... either send us to Heaven
or Hell, based on decisions, that we didn't really make anyway?





I think its more like the old George Burns Joke... God is a Stand Up Comedian, playing to an audience that's afraid to laugh...





But hell.... what do I know...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 11:38 AM (qh617)"

It is my understanding of John Calvin's teachings that we all deserve to brn in Hell forever but out of God's divine mercy He picks a few Elect to spare from Hell. The people who are going to Heaven were chosen at the beginning of time and there is not really anything you can do to move from one group to the other. Another wrinkle in Calvin's teaching is that God gives indications of who is in the Elect group by how well they are doing on Earth. So for many or most people, God has predestined that their time on Earth will be hard and then they will die and burn in Hell forever.

Perhaps some Calvinist can explain to me where I have misstated any part of John Calvin's central thesis but this is my understanding of his teachings.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 11:53 AM (KDbAT)

441 The rain it raineth on the just/
And also on the unjust fella/
But mainly on the just, because/
The unjust steals the just's umbrella

Posted by: SarahW at March 24, 2015 11:53 AM (lv2k0)

442 Ted Cruz. I like the guy, he says more things that sound like me and what I support than any other candidate. And he can deliver a hell of a speech.

But two words: Eddie Haskell.

Watching his Seth Myers interview, he was blowing a lot of smoke up Seth's ass, which I get, and you kind of have to do with a media type, and he took him on on global warming BS so that's goof. But the missing component, I think, was he was unable to fake sincerity.

For me, that doesn't disqualify him, but I do think that people like to have their sincerity faked genuinely (see PRESIDENT Bill Clinton, for example, and our beloved Captain Bullshit) and Cruz has not arrived there. That will be a problem for the voters who want that. Regardless of what they think about his stand on issues, etc.

I don't think Eddie Haskell showed up at the speech at Liberty. It was a very good, heartfelt speech that fits in the mold of what LIVs want - a good struggling life story where women are center stage.

If he can do that in all of his appearances, he will do well.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2015 11:54 AM (Uo5BP)

443 Perhaps they're envious of her making 100 million, not of her writing ability.

I'm certainly envious of her money for writing essentially trash.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 24, 2015 11:54 AM (zF6Iw)

444 436

See because tree of life

AH never mind

Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at March 24, 2015 11:54 AM (EJo3N)

445 I admit that while I agree with Cruz on pretty much all policy positions I also find his style irritating. This was the true genius of Reagan, he could deliver the same message and have you wanting more. Cruz isn't at that level yet. If a little criticism of his style helps him connect better it works for me.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2015 11:41 AM (g1DWB)



Mark Levin. I cannot listen to him. I just can't. Yes, pitch and inflection matter. I say this as someone with a podcast AHEM AHEM AHEM and who flinches when listening to recordings of my voice. It matters.

It's like Jindal. It is viciously unfair that his coming across as the super nerd he is will cause major problems in running for President. But it will.

Presume here completely out my ass natterings about atavistic lizard brain responses to those who look and sound strong vis a vis survival of the species.

Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 24, 2015 11:55 AM (mf5HN)

446 If God does decide everything, then we do not have Free Will.
See Ephesians 1:11,12

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 24, 2015 11:55 AM (R8hU8)

447 MP4: God knows I'm not suggesting an "image consultant" for Cruz, but I would like to see him take some lessons with a voice coach.

Both Cruz and Sarah do this thing where they're trying to sound all sincere and important, in a breathy, quiet way. Doesn't really work. "Shmaltzy" is a good descrip.

Yeah, Cruz could improve his delivery. And that pudgy face. Someone yesterday called it punchable. Thought that was funny.

Alas that any of that should matter, compared to his actual opinions.

Now, about his wife's employer....

BTW, repeating, Reaganite Republican had a good list of Cruz's creds.

http://bitly.com/cruz-exp

Posted by: mindful webworker - cruzin' on a Tuesday afternoon... at March 24, 2015 11:55 AM (ATv6t)

448 So Israel "spied" on the Iran negotiations and found out the Jews were being sold out as well as the rest of us, and told congress about the secret dealings.... Oh My, I bet that made obama blow a gasket!

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 24, 2015 11:56 AM (Bn6aD)

449 So Israel "spied" on the Iran negotiations and found out the Jews were being sold out as well as the rest of us, and told congress about the secret dealings.... Oh My, I bet that made obama blow a gasket!


Israel discovered what was going on because they were spying on Iran. Which we discovered because .... we were spying on Israel.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 24, 2015 11:57 AM (evdj2)

450 448 So Israel "spied" on the Iran negotiations and found out the Jews were being sold out as well as the rest of us, and told congress about the secret dealings.... Oh My, I bet that made obama blow a gasket!
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 24, 2015 11:56 AM (Bn6aD)

------

I absolutely would expect them to do this and respect them for it.

Imagine how bad the deal was considering BiBi put his neck on the line to raise President Brat's ire.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 24, 2015 11:57 AM (A98Xu)

451 He picks a few Elect to spare from Hell. The people
who are going to Heaven were chosen at the beginning of time and there
is not really anything you can do to move from one group to the other.



Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 11:53 AM (KDbAT)


my favorite acronym: KISS. Keep It Simple, Stupid.

If religions have yer head all rat-nested, just remember two things:

1) love your creator (he did, after all, give you life)
2) be nice. To everyone. Yourself included

Do those two and yer fine.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:57 AM (x3YFz)

452 you know, minus the meth and dixie mafia and all that.

Posted by: Mainah


So you mean, not in the South, then?

Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 24, 2015 11:58 AM (/Ho8c)

453 What would a thousanth of a fraction of a second seem like after having God's presence removed? Possibly an eternity.




Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 11:49 AM (TOk1P)



If I recall correctly, it's the only thing that Christ feared when he was crucified.


Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:51 AM (x3YFz)


It is generally true that the purpose of each Gospel is different enough that we can take from each its purpose, and not have to sweat the inconsistencies.

That being said, I cannot quite wrap my head around John's depiction of the crucifixion. Either Jesus really had humanity, or He did not. John's version seems to eliminate the idea that Jesus had reason to fear His Father's abandonment, when the other Gospels, and Luke in particular, make it quite clear that He did.

The risk is there, for all of us. Anyone who thinks his or her place in God's presence is assured has no idea. How could any one of us have less doubt than Jesus?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 11:58 AM (TOk1P)

454 I'm certainly envious of her money for writing essentially trash.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 24, 2015 11:54 AM (zF6Iw)



Oh hell to the yes.

As I scream about Twilight, I can write trashy vampire porn too! Why does she have All The Money!

Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 24, 2015 11:58 AM (mf5HN)

455 My, I bet that made obama blow a gasket!
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 24, 2015 11:56 A

Thats not the only thing he blew.
Posted by: Charles Barkley

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (2Aj5D)

456 >>Mark Levin. I cannot listen to him. I just can't.

Same here. It stresses me out just listening to him.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (V+8gv)

457 "422
And as far as FSOG, I am reminded of the journalist-whose name escapes
my post middle aged brain at the moment who said something like,-"Nobody
ever got rich underestimating the taste of the American public."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 11:45 AM (DXzRD)"

H.L.Menken said that nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (KDbAT)

458 Is the monster fish the Mongolian kid is holding in this one a pike?

http://tinyurl.com/lxzf24q

Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (DL2i+)

459 I'm certainly envious of her money for writing essentially trash.

You and me and everyone who ever posted to alt.sex.stories.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (/kI1Q)

460 I'm certainly envious of her money for writing essentially trash.

Well, change your writing name to a woman, make the male a character an anti Prince Charming-except that he's rich and good looking-and ramp up the bondage scenes and you too could be the next-whatever her name is. All she did was push the bodice rippers to new heights- or lows

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 12:00 PM (DXzRD)

461 H.L.Menken said that nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (KDbAT)

__________

Fuckin' Eh!!

Posted by: Honey Boo Boo at March 24, 2015 12:00 PM (0LHZx)

462 >>God knows I'm not suggesting an "image consultant" for Cruz, but I would like to see him take some lessons with a voice coach.

That and maybe a strategery coach. This was my complaint about the shutdown thing in 2014.

All of us wanted the same outcome, get rid of Obamacare, it was just the strategy that was in question. There was no way to win that shutdown and as smart as he is I'm sure Cruz knew that. It was great for his image with conservatives but it not only was destined to lose it also pissed off a lot of Republicans who were put on the spot by his "you're either with my strategy or you're a RINO traitor" approach. In my experience, people don't like being called out as traitors just because they don't agree with your approach.

Cruz is a gifted debater and a very smart guy but I think he does himself a disservice with the my way or the highway approach. He is going to need a lot more than just movement conservatives if he wants to win the presidency and that requires a bit of humility and coalition building. If Reagan could do that and still be considered a conservative hero Cruz better learn that lesson too.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2015 12:00 PM (g1DWB)

463
The risk is there, for all of us. Anyone who thinks his or her place in God's presence is assured has no idea. How could any one of us have less doubt than Jesus?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 11:58 AM (TOk1P

Its called faith. I saw it up close and personal when I watched my Dad die.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 12:00 PM (2Aj5D)

464 Same here. It stresses me out just listening to him.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (V+8gv)



I don't mean that. I mean his voice. Fingernails on chalkboard and aaarrrggghhh no no no no no.

Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 24, 2015 12:01 PM (mf5HN)

465 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (KDbAT)

Ah, Thanks. "Went broke". My middle aged brain really fouled that up, didn't I?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 12:02 PM (DXzRD)

466 456 >>Mark Levin. I cannot listen to him. I just can't.

Same here. It stresses me out just listening to him.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (V+8gv

Get off the thread, ya big DOPE

Posted by: Mark Levin at March 24, 2015 12:02 PM (2Aj5D)

467 Cruz has to embrace his inner nerd.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 24, 2015 12:04 PM (0LHZx)

468 TFG will name Shailagh Murray, a former Washington Post and Wall Street Journal reporter as senior adviser.


Finally. Now perhaps the MSM will give him a fair shake.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 24, 2015 12:04 PM (fWAjv)

469 Sen. Dan Coats (R) IN will not seek reelection in 2016.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 24, 2015 12:04 PM (W5DcG)

470 >>Mark Levin. I cannot listen to him. I just can't.

Same here. It stresses me out just listening to him.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 11:59 AM (V+8gv)
*******
He is not well. Listen to him for a little bit. He is a Major Stroke or Myocardial Infarction just waiting to happen. You simply cannot live enraged all the time..... something is gonna blow.

Posted by: Genghis Cohen at March 24, 2015 12:04 PM (fLKzW)

471 Reagan was shot down the first time he ran and was hated, hated by the party leadership. Until he won

Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 24, 2015 12:04 PM (zOTsN)

472 The risk is there, for all of us. Anyone who thinks
his or her place in God's presence is assured has no idea. How could any
one of us have less doubt than Jesus?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 11:58 AM (TOk1P



Its called faith. I saw it up close and personal when I watched my Dad die.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 24, 2015 12:00 PM (2Aj5D)


I have never been comfortable with that particular aspect of faith. It can easily cross into hubris.

Even the people I know and love the most, who have passed out of this world and into the next, I cannot bring myself to say "she's in heaven now, by Jesus' side."


I don't know. I can't know. I can hope, pray, and have faith... but I can't know.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 12:05 PM (TOk1P)

473 As I scream about Twilight, I can write trashy vampire porn too! Why does she have All The Money!

Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 24, 2015 11:58 AM (mf5HN)


You know, the funny thing is - about a year or so back, trying to break a writer's block (**SPOILER ALERT** - it didn't work), I took two characters from the novel I'm working on and wrote a porn scene for them. And it actually wasn't half bad. So for a moment, I thought, "perhaps I should just write an out-and-out heavy-R-close-to-X book." But the moment passed and I went back to struggling over my manuscript as it is.

That, and I don't think a porn novel set during silent film days would really sell. A Man With A Maid did the whole period piece seduction-cum-orgy much better.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 24, 2015 12:05 PM (zF6Iw)

474 Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2015 12:00 PM (g1DWB)

The Congress has only TWO clubs they hold over the President...

Impeachment, which is off the table because of RAAAAAcism... and the Power of the Purse...

The shut down was an effort to use the Power of the Purse... to reassert the Co Equal standing of the Congress.... but... 'OUR' side blinked...

And now Obama, as he is showing by his actions... has no shackles on his Power...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 24, 2015 12:05 PM (qh617)

475 House Speaker Boehner says he's "baffled" by reports that Israel passed on information to Congress.

Israel denies that it has received any complaint about the alleged spying on Iranian negotiations.

Sounds like WSJ better step up with a source 'cause lots of folks claiming BS.

Posted by: USA at March 24, 2015 12:05 PM (tfM+W)

476 There! I said it!

Posted by: M. Levin at March 24, 2015 12:06 PM (/Ho8c)

477 Reagan was shot down the first time he ran and was hated, hated by the party leadership. Until he won



Then he was hated even more.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 24, 2015 12:06 PM (evdj2)

478 You simply cannot live enraged all the time..... something is gonna blow.
Posted by: Genghis Cohen at March 24, 2015 12:04 PM (fLKzW)

Shtick is shtick.
he's a master at it.

Listen to Belling on Rush. F*cking pussycat. Calm, cool, collected.
Listen to Belling's Milwaukee show and a complete 180.

Its entertainment folks.

BTW I love Levin.

Posted by: Mark Levin at March 24, 2015 12:06 PM (2Aj5D)

479 @405 I'm guessing the passengers never saw it coming.

I think this plays into the Will of God arguments as well, but here goes: I don't mind (so much) the idea of dying like an Ernie Gann co-pilot. What would irk the shit out of me, for a couple of minutes anyway, would be to see a problem, report it, and be patted on the head by flight crew as the aircraft proceeds to certain doom. It would be fine if I were in the right seat. Not spam in a can.

Kind of a Shatner/Twilight Zone thing. I once had the rearmost seat on a rear-engined jet, didn't like the feel as #2 spooled up (that titanium alloy disk being, like, right next to my head and all), and pitched an almighty bitch to Stewardess, which we used to have in those days. I do not know why she took me at my word, but she went to a phone, said a word, and the engine speed came right down. Couple of quick blips, and we wheeled back to the gate and changed planes. No, I did not get a big reward, nor did Q.Arrius adopt me.

Sure, I felt good all day. But lurking in the back of my head is the notion that One Day, I'll notice something (On The Wing!), and not manage to convince. True, I do not fly near as much any more. Or listen to Creedence, either.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 24, 2015 12:06 PM (xq1UY)

480 Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2015 12:00 PM (g1DWB)

He was betrayed by his side who were afraid to do what was right. He has been vindicated by the mess which is Obamacare, which contrary to your prediction has not destroyed itself.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at March 24, 2015 12:07 PM (dkHoZ)

481 When theological questions arise in Ace comments, I'm tempted to jump in and set everybody right, since I know it all. But, it wouldn't do any good. Folks would just argue with me, anyway.

Some four decades ago, a friend who had fallen asleep on the couch, awoke to the tv. Back then we had three broadcast channels and it was the middle of the night, so they were running their "public service time" show, a collection of local (Tulsa) preachers discussing religious matters. My friend watched in sleepy stupor for a while, then drolly observed...

"These people are very confused!"

It's stuck with me all these years. Maybe you had to be there.

Unserious webwork from almost a year ago:
http://bit.ly/only-heaven

Posted by: mindful webworker - omnisciently ignorant at March 24, 2015 12:07 PM (ATv6t)

482 I don't know. I can't know. I can hope, pray, and have faith... but I can't know.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 12:05 PM (TOk1P)

Then I will pray that you come to that knowledge and have that faith. For it is comforting.

Posted by: Mark Levin at March 24, 2015 12:08 PM (2Aj5D)

483 >>Its entertainment folks.

That's fine if it's his schtick. Just not my cup of tea, which stinks, because from the comments he generates from his listeners I likely agree with most of what he says.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 12:08 PM (V+8gv)

484 "my favorite acronym: KISS. Keep It Simple, Stupid.

If religions have yer head all rat-nested, just remember two things:

1) love your creator (he did, after all, give you life)
2) be nice. To everyone. Yourself included

Do those two and yer fine.


Posted by: TangoNine at March 24, 2015 11:57 AM (x3YFz)"

To be honest, I don't really worry what John Calvin taught. I am a Roman Catholic and view Calvin as a popular heretic who led a lot of people off into the weeds. To be honest I find Islam less twisted than John Calvin's teachings and Islam sets the standard for twisted.


I believe in free will and I believe that if you wind up in Hell it is because you put yourself there by your own choice, not because God created you for damnation.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 12:10 PM (KDbAT)

485 MH - I remain banned
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Me too.

Is there some Wisconsin discrimination I am not aware of?

Posted by: bossy barbara at March 24, 2015 12:11 PM (2Aj5D)

486 Ace is up.

Posted by: HH at March 24, 2015 12:12 PM (Ce4DF)

487 It's certainly some schtick, but he's also wound pretty tight, I think. Had at least one heart attack, IIRC.

He can be difficult to listen to sometimes because of the rage, but his knowledge of constitutional law is impressive.

You might try some of his writing, as his writing style is totally different than his radio show.


Posted by: M. Levin at March 24, 2015 12:12 PM (/Ho8c)

488 483 >>Its entertainment folks.

That's fine if it's his schtick. Just not my cup of tea
---------------

And thats what makes this such a great country to live. I don't care for Gaming and don't check out the Gaming Threads here. Just as at 5PM CST I'm listening to different things then Levin.

Posted by: Mark Levin at March 24, 2015 12:12 PM (2Aj5D)

489 If religions have yer head all rat-nested, just remember two things:

1) love your creator (he did, after all, give you life)
2) be nice. To everyone. Yourself included

Do those two and yer fine.
Posted by: TangoNine


Love God before all things

Love your neighbor as you love yourself.

These were the two NEW commandments Jesus laid on his disciples. To carry this message to all nations.

In German, the "Good News" is the 'Gospel'. Maybe the best news for all men and women, everywhere.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....spring is sprung at March 24, 2015 12:12 PM (RFeQD)

490 I don't know. I can't know. I can hope, pray, and have faith... but I can't know.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 12:05 PM (TOk1P)



Then I will pray that you come to that knowledge and have that faith. For it is comforting.

Posted by: Mark Levin at March 24, 2015 12:08 PM (2Aj5D)


What if I'm not asking for comfort?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 12:13 PM (TOk1P)

491 And I don't think FSOG would have been so successful if it had been written under a man's name. Didn't the author start out commenting off on some "Twilight" fan fiction and branch out from there. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think too many men were big fans of "Twilight". I don't know a single man who saw it, and I really don't know anyone over 30 or so who did either. I saw scads of teens girls. FSOG seems to be a happening for teen girls grown up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2015 12:14 PM (DXzRD)

492
>>Its entertainment folks.

That's fine if it's his schtick.
Just not my cup of tea, which stinks, because from the comments he
generates from his listeners I likely agree with most of what he says.


Posted by: Lizzy at March 24, 2015 12:08 PM (V+8gv)


Same here. The perpetual outrage, I don't need.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2015 12:15 PM (TOk1P)

493 Nice link about being angry with God, FS.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 24, 2015 12:19 PM (0HooB)

494 God gives indications of who is in the Elect group by how well they are doing on Earth

Ancient pet peeve of mine, right up there with "Giving Back" etc. When you talk about the "Work Ethic," especially if (generational thing) you put "Protestant" in front of it, this is what you mean. Not being raised right, enjoying the satisfaction of a job well done, fair day's work for day's pay, or any of that. It's the doctrine of the elect.

According to some bull-goose sociologist (OK, it's Max Weber), the opposite is a sort of Catholic Laziness Ethic, with lots of bingo festivals, Good Works, and easy forgiveness. And what we all say about imported Latinos now, my white-side Prussian Four-Bears said about all those central-European Catholics coming in by the boatload. When one grandfather married Across That Line, his family did not speak to him for years. To his credit, she was French'n'Injun, and hotter'n a firecracker. Plus, he made a Lutheran of her.

We seldom think back to those days, but I can assure you it was a Big Deal Indeed when JFK was running.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 24, 2015 12:22 PM (xq1UY)

495 He was betrayed by his side who were afraid to do what was right. He has been vindicated by the mess which is Obamacare, which contrary to your prediction has not destroyed itself.

So tell me, if every single Republican in Congress back then had voted to keep the shutdown in place, how would they win? You think Reid and Obama would have caved and compromised on Obama's singular piece of legislation? Show one piece of evidence that leads you to that conclusion. It was never going to happen.

As to Obamacare not collapsing, you've got to be kidding me. Have you heard what's going on at the IRS, at the SC? Over 40 rural hospitals have closed since Obamacare came into full affect and more are on the way. You expected it to collapse overnight with Obama rewriting the law on the fly to protect it?

I'm off to the doctor right now. If you haven't been in the last year you should give it a go. It's oodles of fun.

Obamacare will collapse. Would have happened sooner if Romney had been elected but that ship has sailed and now we have to do it the hard way.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2015 12:32 PM (g1DWB)

496 I believe in free will and I believe that if you wind up in Hell it is because you put yourself there by your own choice, not because God created you for damnation.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 24, 2015 12:10 PM (KDbAT)

I'm a Southern BaptiPresbyLutheran who believes the very same thing. God offers salvation to any who will accept it. He's NOT exclusive, except to those who reject him.

And the reason for all the denominations is living overseas-you find the church that speaks English. You never really know what you are going to get, and you are happy when they preach the Word, and not some newfangled, hip view of the Word that adds or subtracts to it. That's a lot harder to find than it sounds. Especially in Muslim countries.

Posted by: Moki at March 24, 2015 12:33 PM (bAB8f)

497 Very glad it didn't end up being an extended banning......

Posted by: cthulhu at March 24, 2015 02:42 PM (T1005)

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