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Open Thread
George Inness, "Winter Evening, Montclair" (c. 1860)
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: HH at March 23, 2015 10:49 AM (Ce4DF)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 23, 2015 10:50 AM (t//F+)
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Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 10:53 AM (wlDny)
So I won't.
I do like how that stand of evergreens almost have a 3-d effect in the middle distance. That is good technique
Posted by: Kindltot at March 23, 2015 10:53 AM (t//F+)
Obviously, they're trying to prepare the space for the Govt to seize those assets "for fairness."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 10:53 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 10:54 AM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: maddogg at March 23, 2015 10:54 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 10:54 AM (kff5f)
Drew M says Ted has no chance, but he had no chance in Texas for senate.
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I remember those days. I personally got close to a hundred people to go to the runoff and vote for him, and several of my friends beat me by a mile in ginning turnout.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 10:54 AM (2ePOO)
Posted by: PaleRider at March 23, 2015 10:55 AM (7w/kf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 23, 2015 10:55 AM (W5DcG)
Sub-alternate title: "Wolf's Dinner."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 23, 2015 10:55 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 10:55 AM (Ma5u/)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2015 10:52 AM (R8hU
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Ted says Drew M has no chance, so they're even.
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 10:55 AM (h6Mpm)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 10:56 AM (2Ojst)
hundred people to go to the runoff and vote for him, and several of my
friends beat me by a mile in ginning turnout.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 10:54 AM (2ePOO)
Yup
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2015 10:56 AM (R8hU8)
That doesn't look like the right kind of area for gypsum sand.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 10:56 AM (kff5f)
So, I don't know if this got mentioned in Vic's news links, or the Dump
thread (was there even a dump thread?), but NBC released a piece about
how 401(k) plans aren't "fair" and that "only the rich can retire."
Obviously, they're trying to prepare the space for the Govt to seize those assets "for fairness."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 10:53 AM (kff5f)
I don't go to NBC for news links. We get enough propaganda as it is.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 10:56 AM (wlDny)
C'mon brewer - post puppehs, kittehs, bewbs, flowers - anything but more fcuking winter! (although bewbs are ok year-round).
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 23, 2015 10:56 AM (Fr8iN)
Posted by: Furkan Derya at March 23, 2015 10:56 AM (8TdcF)
So, I don't know if this got mentioned in Vic's news links, or the Dump thread (was there even a dump thread?), but NBC released a piece about how 401(k) plans aren't "fair" and that "only the rich can retire."
Obviously, they're trying to prepare the space for the Govt to seize those assets "for fairness."
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Allen, rather than seize those assets ( which they will need to cover medicare), the feds will simply means test social security, meaning that if you have a pension or 401K, you don't get SS.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 10:56 AM (2ePOO)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 23, 2015 10:57 AM (zauWW)
OK, I've been waiting year to get that out of my system.
Posted by: MTF, Vote for someone the GOP insiders hate! at March 23, 2015 10:57 AM (FCsIb)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2015 10:57 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at March 23, 2015 10:58 AM (CsMLT)
Posted by: PaleRider at March 23, 2015 10:58 AM (7w/kf)
Posted by: Thunder B Cruzader at March 23, 2015 10:58 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 23, 2015 10:59 AM (zauWW)
Posted by: JohnsTH36 at March 23, 2015 10:59 AM (7vEcP)
Come for the 401k's, meet the IRA.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 10:59 AM (Ma5u/)
Speaking of the IRS... The IRS scandal nearly two years on:
http://tinyurl.com/knpnea3
Via Instapundit
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 10:59 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 10:56 AM (2ePOO)
I remember Chris Matthews coming out against means testing of SS because he said it would then be considered a welfare program and lose all popular support.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 23, 2015 10:59 AM (W5DcG)
http://tinyurl.com/3nxcv57
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 10:59 AM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: PaleRider at March 23, 2015 11:00 AM (7w/kf)
Why Cruzs presidential run is absurd, but important
Arguably the only one less qualified and less accomplished in public service among the presidential hopefuls is Ben Carson.
Jennifer Rubin
http://tinyurl.com/p3gu3lk
And then she gets mean....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:00 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Hillary! at March 23, 2015 11:00 AM (FCsIb)
<i>NBC released a piece about how 401(k) plans aren't "fair" and that "only the rich can retire."</i>
there have been a ton of these in the last couple years. Too many not to be a concerted effort. Generally someone will lament the lack of defined benefits plans without mentioning that they locked you into your company, in a world where companies are no longer loyal. So, through no fault of your own, you can easily lose a company defined benefits plan.
And then I love how the solution seems to always be SS, again! Some more.LOL. I already put effectively 14% of my paycheck into the government plan that I may or may not ever see. I'm not looking for more.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 11:01 AM (lIU4e)
Just look how good SS is. At least with a 401K you have to make your own contributions. The only thing not fair in the 401K program is the articially low cutoff amount for the so-called rich.
http://bit.ly/1GLhxji
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 11:01 AM (wlDny)
Obviously, they're trying to prepare the space for the Govt to seize those assets "for fairness."
I read a portion of the article. They say some crud how the 401k was never meant to be a vehicle for your full retirement.
I call BS. That is the way it was presented. I put in when it was first available 25 years ago. The company did a match to a certain percent, but the rest was mine. I have a substantial amount in it now, and I am retired. It is a fall back in case I need it. My pension is covering my needs right now. Mainly because I have always planned for a rainy day. That's why I have so much in the 401K.
Posted by: Bruce at March 23, 2015 11:02 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Mittney! at March 23, 2015 11:02 AM (FCsIb)
Yes, and also he industry's tax breaks?!?!?!
One of the DNC talking points against Cruz is that he will protect fat cat companies from taxes - so counter with Hollywood, as Instapundit writes about today in the WSJ:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/03/22/ republicans-silicon-valley-wall-street-column/25183105/
Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2015 11:02 AM (V+8gv)
Obviously, they're trying to prepare the space for the Govt to seize those assets "for fairness."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 10:53 AM (kff5f)
I've been waiting for this, as it was totally predictable. All that lovely money sitting there (really sitting there, unlike SSI), just being wasted on the people who earned it? That's like catnip to liberals.
A frank expropriation would probably start The Revolution, so my guess is that they'll require a certain percentage of each 401(k) to be held in government bonds (aka toilet paper - Venezuelans, at ease - it's a figure of speech).
Similar situation: Prop. 13 in CA, a constitutional amendment that capped the rate of increase of property taxes. The state is broke, and undoing Prop. 13 (which does generate some injustices, in truth) would free the Reds to kick property owners in the balls, as they always yearn to do, and use the money to buy more votes, which they also yearn to do.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:02 AM (oKE6c)
Not sure I have a problem with that.
Well, at least pay out *exactly* what's been paid in. But beyond that, yeah, means test it.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at March 23, 2015 11:02 AM (SCcgT)
Posted by: JohnsTH36 at March 23, 2015 11:02 AM (7vEcP)
If you really want to change the gop, vote cruz. If you are invested in status quo, you will hate and fear him
Posted by: Thunder B Cruzader at March 23, 2015 11:03 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:03 AM (y4+1Q)
"Cruz went to Princeton and Harvard. Not the type of education that would appeal to his base."
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 11:03 AM (9ZZd+)
Nope. Not from the angle of that story, anyway.
The story centers on how 401(k)s have "failed" because "the average amount in a 401(k)" is approximately 18k.
The story then immediately says "Oh, if you look at just people near retirement age, the average is higher" (well, duh), but that's not good enough (apparently) because you need millions of dollars to retire.
So "only the rich can retire" and "the working-class have to work until they die" (yes- that's at least an approximate quote).
So, no, it's setting the space to *expand* Social Security, and take away those "unfair" 401(k)s.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:04 AM (kff5f)
Iranian Quds force pos selfie on Abrams tank.
http://tinyurl.com/lu8z48t
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 11:04 AM (BZAd3)
Then what WAS supposed to be a vehicle for your full retirement? SSI? Pffft. Your pension? Many people don't have a pension; we're not all useless public sector union members, after all.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:04 AM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 11:04 AM (wlDny)
From 2008 they were talking about taking the 401ks
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2008/11/then-they-came-for-our-retirements.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:04 AM (y4+1Q)
lovely money sitting there (really sitting there, unlike SSI), just
being wasted on the people who earned it? That's like catnip to
liberals.
And unions - they have been pushing for this big time. The labor unions *really* want a piece of that 401K action because they know their own pensions are doomed. And that's "unfair."
Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2015 11:05 AM (V+8gv)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 11:05 AM (Ma5u/)
Statute of Limitations. Speak it bitchez.
Posted by: Lois Lerner et al at March 23, 2015 11:05 AM (iVjJr)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 11:04 AM (wlDny)
This may be hair-splitting, but I don't consider that means-testing since it goes to the net amount of payment you get to keep rather than eligibility.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 11:06 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 23, 2015 11:06 AM (so+oy)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:04 AM (kff5f)
Now you'd think, given the Reds love of coercion in every other context, that they'd require people to put money aside if they gave a rat's ass about people.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:06 AM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 10:56 AM (2ePOO)
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I think if the government starts putting their fists into 401K's, they do what Greece did and skim a percentage off of everyone's retirement plan. It's simpler and the funds can go directly into the general fund.
One way or the other, all of us know it's coming if the present mindset in DC prevails.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 11:06 AM (LZi/r)
I remember Chris Matthews coming out against means testing of SS because he said it would then be considered a welfare program and lose all popular support.
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It is a welfare program, what he means is that enough people will figure that out. In 1937 the supreme court officially declared that SS was a welfare program, since the taxes were simply dumped into the general fund.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 11:07 AM (2ePOO)
Not if; when.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2015 11:08 AM (9+Nhc)
Posted by: Psycotte at March 23, 2015 11:09 AM (ZHrVC)
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at March 23, 2015 11:10 AM (NHtMs)
Conservative ideas should get a chance.
Posted by: MTF, Vote for someone the GOP insiders hate! at March 23, 2015 11:10 AM (FCsIb)
Posted by: Jay Guevara
Release the SEIU!!! Think about it, what part of work isn't SERVICE?
Posted by: Bruce at March 23, 2015 11:10 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 11:10 AM (S+el1)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2015 11:11 AM (V+8gv)
Celebs make so much fucking money it is ridiculous. People like Bieber and Miley and Swift have amassed close to 200 million in their young lives.
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 23, 2015 11:11 AM (iQIUe)
Two standing, one sitting in the foreground. Is there a guy at the treeline in orange?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 23, 2015 11:11 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 11:12 AM (wlDny)
According to my liberal wife, this is when the shooting starts.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 11:10 AM (S+el1)
It will happen before then if we continue on this track.
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 11:12 AM (iVjJr)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 11:10 AM (S+el1)
I would like to believe that.
I don't anymore. I think the remaining patriots are too spread out, and no one wants to be the first one out of the trenches. *I* certainly don't want to be the first one out of the trenches, especially if I don't *know* that others will follow.
See the problem?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:12 AM (kff5f)
Two standing, one sitting in the foreground. Is there a guy at the treeline in orange?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 23, 2015 11:11 AM (LA7Cm)
Yes. He's the active rapist.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 11:12 AM (2Ojst)
Me: My life for you!
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If I gotta eat flies I'll eat flies.
- Renfield
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 23, 2015 11:12 AM (j6e8f)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 23, 2015 11:11 AM (LA7Cm)
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One guy ran home to get his Hobo hunting license
Posted by: MTF, Vote for someone the GOP insiders hate! at March 23, 2015 11:13 AM (FCsIb)
Oh, go ahead and let it out. What's the HQ for if not to vent?
Hell, I've been in the "smash people in the face with a baseball bat" mood since Saturday.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2015 11:13 AM (zF6Iw)
Not if; when.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2015 11:08 AM (9+Nhc)
Now couple the retirement issue with Obolacare. What interest does the government have in keeping retired geezers alive? They/We are a huge health care liability who don't work - by definition - and don't pay much in taxes either. Why expend heroic efforts to keep a liability alive? Why not let said geezers croak, then expropriate their savings through death taxes, and fees for shipping, handling, and restocking, that coincidentally come to the total of such savings?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:13 AM (oKE6c)
Obviously, they're trying to prepare the space for the Govt to seize those assets "for fairness."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 10:53 AM (kff5f)
I think they already floated a GovRetire system (there's a proper name for it, I just forget). It's just a step from that to "We'll just put your present 401(k) into the GovRetire plan, because we can handle it better than you can." Then, all private retirement assets disappear into the general fund, never to be seen again.
Posted by: joncelli at March 23, 2015 11:14 AM (RD7QR)
If you like your 401K you'll be able to keep it. We just want to expand choice.
Posted by: Hillary! at March 23, 2015 11:14 AM (FCsIb)
Oh, go ahead and let it out. What's the HQ for if not to vent?
Hell, I've been in the "smash people in the face with a baseball bat" mood since Saturday.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2015 11:13 AM (zF6Iw)
Join the club. I jumped ugly on a couple of stupid people in the comments section of another blog. I'd just had enough of the idiotic whiny bullshit.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 11:14 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2015 11:13 AM (zF6Iw)
I'm with you, brother. I'm in exactly that mood right now, for any number of reasons. The 401(k) thing is just one of them.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:14 AM (oKE6c)
First one outta the trenches will fly a Cessna into an IRS building.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 11:15 AM (Ma5u/)
So in my "small steps to a healthier AllenG" I started a workout routine this morning (body-weight strength training), with the plan on doing it MWF.
I made it *almost* through one circuit at 5:30 (CDT). I'm still shaky.
F*ck, I'm out of shape.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:16 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: MTF, vote for someone the GOP insiders hate! at March 23, 2015 11:16 AM (FCsIb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:17 AM (y4+1Q)
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?list=PLD7CC30401DB932C5& v=E33b038Wx8g&feature=player_detailpage
Posted by: DaveA at March 23, 2015 11:17 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 11:15 AM (Ma5u/)
And then be pilloried as crazy-pants.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:17 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Hillary! at March 23, 2015 11:14 AM (FCsIb)
No, no. They'll sell it as "protecting" us from the vagaries of the stock market by trading those NYSE lottery tickets for those safe safe government pensions, so we don't have to worry our gray heads. It's for the
And if some of that money should find its way to the FSA, and to programs to help the gay polar bears stop smoking, it's kismet.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:17 AM (oKE6c)
Huh
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 11:17 AM (A98Xu)
That has ALWAYS been my problem with Obamacare - they have a financial interest in who lives and who dies beyond the cost of healthcare.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2015 11:17 AM (V+8gv)
Does he have a list?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 11:17 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Bruce at March 23, 2015 11:18 AM (8ikIW)
I already have multiple times the 17k amount they are discussing, I am 33. I call bullshit. Or, they kept taking loans out on the thing their entire lives.
Posted by: cajun caret at March 23, 2015 11:18 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: MTF, vote for someone the GOP insiders hate! at March 23, 2015 11:16 AM (FCsIb)
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Agree.
Why is this hard for dipshits like Rubin to get? Too insulated?
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 11:18 AM (A98Xu)
1) John who?
2) Okay, obviously he's over the target, simply from the amount of flak he's taking.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:18 AM (kff5f)
Huh
.
.
.This is along the same lines of 'Jeb Bush was the most conservative Governor ever' articles which I saw this weekend.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 23, 2015 11:19 AM (4oSLk)
(there's a proper name for it, I just forget). It's just a step from
that to "We'll just put your present 401(k) into the GovRetire plan,
because we can handle it better than you can." Then, all private
retirement assets disappear into the general fund, never to be seen
again.
Posted by: joncelli at March 23, 2015 11:14 AM (RD7QR)]/i]
Yeah, 'cause the government's well-known for its skill and prudence in handling money.
Just like when Obongo touted Obolacare as "bringing government efficiency to healthcare." He really should be doing standup.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:19 AM (oKE6c)
On. Crack.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 23, 2015 11:19 AM (LA7Cm)
I... don't.
But that's my fault, and I know it. It's certainly not anyone else's.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:19 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:19 AM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2015 11:19 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Fritz at March 23, 2015 11:20 AM (ty633)
Taking a loan out against a 401k is paid back to the 401k plus interest.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 11:20 AM (Ma5u/)
are discussing, I am 33. I call bullshit. Or, they kept taking loans
out on the thing their entire lives.
Posted by: cajun caret
Probably the same people that refi'd the 20 times and took money out, plus run up their credit card debt.
Posted by: Bruce at March 23, 2015 11:21 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
.........
That's what I thought.. but, now I am not sure... purty picher anyways..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 23, 2015 11:21 AM (so+oy)
Taking a loan out against a 401k is paid back to the 401k plus interest.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 11:20 AM (Ma5u/)
Yup. It's a really bad idea, but there are people who do it.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 11:21 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: jewells45has a secret at March 23, 2015 11:22 AM (l/N7H)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:22 AM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:19 AM (kff5f)
I went aggressive in my 20's.
Posted by: cajun caret at March 23, 2015 11:22 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 23, 2015 11:22 AM (zauWW)
Posted by: rickb223
.........
Right.. and you pay the interest to yourself!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 23, 2015 11:22 AM (so+oy)
Allen G. You're not going to get anywhere in this life with that kind of attitude.
Posted by: Bruce at March 23, 2015 11:22 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Bruce at March 23, 2015 11:22 AM (8ikIW)
heh.
Posted by: cajun caret at March 23, 2015 11:23 AM (UZQM8)
I... don't.
But that's my fault, and I know it. It's certainly not anyone else's.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:19 AM (kff5f)
I lost half my 401(k) in the frivorce, and am playing catch-up.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 11:23 AM (2Ojst)
(there's a proper name for it, I just forget).
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Theft.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 23, 2015 11:24 AM (j6e8f)
Can you imagine an ultra leftist like Warren against Cruz.
There would be no clearer indicator whether this country continues as a free country than the result of that election, imio.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 11:25 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: rickb223
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Right.. and you pay the interest to yourself!.
.
.
.Which puts you back to exactly where you were when you took the loan out. Missing out on X number of months/years of your original principle minus the loan amount earning money.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 23, 2015 11:25 AM (4oSLk)
Once I finally get my finances back in order (~2 mos unemployment can *really* screw up your finances- I'm just glad we had an emergency fund so we could weather the worst of it), then I can start putting money into a retirement account.
The 401(k) is nice because "free" money (employer contribution), but a Roth IRA might be better- it should be harder for the Gov't to steal it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:25 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 11:26 AM (S+el1)
John Schindler*
Cruz's ability to cram the maximum # of "conservative" cliches into the smallest space with the greatest faux-drama cannot fail to impress.
*Remember John Schindler, the conservative talking head, retired NSA spook, and Naval War College professor who briefly went incognito after screenshots of what appear to be his "penis" leaked onto the Internet?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:26 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 11:26 AM (2ePOO)
See the problem?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:12 AM (kff5f)
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If it starts, it will start with individual old people who'll begin dying alone standing up to the goons trying to take their property. That's the only way any kind of a show of force for freedom will take root (if it does at all).
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 11:27 AM (LZi/r)
Hey. On an effort scale from 0 - 100, .5 is more effort than 0.
I didn't say "hard."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:27 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 23, 2015 11:27 AM (0HooB)
"I already have multiple times the 17k amount they are discussing, I am 33. I call bullshit."
I do too although I'm a few years older than you. The actual problem seems to be that people leave their job and don't roll over their 401ks, although some take the money out too, not just loans. I saw an article a whileback about racial disparities and it was almost entirely because minorities were more likely to take money out and not roll over when they changedjobs. They also contributed less.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 11:27 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:25 AM (kff5f)
All the govt needs to steal it is a pen and a phone.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 11:27 AM (S+el1)
retirement age, the average is higher" (well, duh), but that's not good
enough (apparently) because you need millions of dollars to retire.
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This is really being pushed by the investment houses.
Oh, the guys in the business of "managing" retirement money say you need more for retirement?
That's odd.
Anyway, I've been seeing them say for a few years now that you need something in the area of $1 million to $1.5 million minimum to retire--and, they say, "that's _including_ SS."
So, get everyone conditioned to "you'll never save enough (better let the government help)."
Oh, and there's no bigger group-faith in the magic of computer models than financial advisors.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 23, 2015 11:27 AM (ZvKdv)
AllenG that statement there is just tempting fate you know that. Talking Fedzilla after all.
Might as well scream 'lets hide in the cemetery!' as the homicidal maniac chases you.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:27 AM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:25 AM (kff5f)
Thats why i <3 where i work, our boss keeps an eye out for us. He swapped the company over about 4-5 years ago. Get the contribution + profit sharing. Everyone here gets a piece. That's why it blows my mind when ppl here start the usual "I ain't getting paid enough for this shit" rant. They have no clue how rare it is a company dumps a chunk of its profits into your retirement.
Posted by: cajun caret at March 23, 2015 11:28 AM (UZQM8)
Sub-alternate title: "Wolf's Dinner."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 23, 2015 10:55 AM (0HooB)
Last wednesday was the 50th anniversary of the first space walk ever by Alexey Leonov. Not as talked about is the fact that when on reentry they landed waaaaay off course, stuck in the thick of Russian wolf infested forests. Did not get found until days later.
Can you imagine how much that would suck, to be the first person to walk in space, only to get eaten by a stupid wolf? Luckily it didn't happen to him but would be ironically poetic, in a way.
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 11:29 AM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 11:27 AM (lIU4e)
Was it denounced for racism? white privilege instantly accrues 25% more interest.
Posted by: cajun caret at March 23, 2015 11:29 AM (UZQM8)
Dividends on my 401K = 5.05%
Tell me again why I should get government bonds?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 11:30 AM (wlDny)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:30 AM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2015 11:30 AM (rDqRv)
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 11:30 AM (yRwC8)
It always starts with folks with nothing left to lose.
Only then will the people with something to lose be shamed into stepping up.
90% of our problem is playing not to lose.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 11:30 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Russkilitlover at March 23, 2015 11:30 AM (3+osy)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 11:30 AM (wlDny)
Because we have your best interest at heart.
Posted by: the government at March 23, 2015 11:31 AM (S+el1)
Obolacare gives the government no incentive whatever to keep a retiree alive; a retiree is just a liability on the hoof.
But a retiree with a 401(k) is not just a liability, but a liability with a target on his back. Having had the sense to put something aside, he's less likely to fall for Democrat crap, too, so he's not even a reliable vote. Next stop: glue factory.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:31 AM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:26 AM (kdS6q)
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Holy shit, I didn't know that.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 11:31 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 23, 2015 11:31 AM (maLc1)
http://tinyurl.com/kz8m9p2
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 11:31 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 11:32 AM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 11:32 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 11:30 AM (yRwC
Not sure about that. If I were guarding Obongo's life, I'd be drinking heavily myself, just from the cognitive dissonance.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:32 AM (oKE6c)
Phil Plait BadAstronomer*
A reminder that Sen. Ted Cruz is unfit to lead this nation.
*The white Neil deGrasse Tyson
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:32 AM (kdS6q)
Recall that during Reagan's tax cut legislation battle, the left was accusing him of 'stealing from the Treasury' by pushing tax cuts.
They really believe it isn't your money.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 11:33 AM (2ePOO)
That was his finger.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 11:33 AM (Y92Nd)
So, get everyone conditioned to "you'll never save enough (better let the government help)."
Yeah. I think the new number is 2.5 million. Which makes me wonder- what are you doing with that money in retirement?
I mean, seriously- an annuity at 6% (which sucks, but that's probably pretty good these days) on $1,000,000 is 60k/yr. For a retired couple in good financial order (house paid off, etc), you could live on just the interest. And that's *not* counting SS.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:34 AM (kff5f)
IIRC, there was a gun thread a few weeks back that showed the pistol that was in the Russkies capsule for just such occasions.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 23, 2015 11:34 AM (0HooB)
entirely because minorities were more likely to take money out and not
roll over when they changedjobs. They also contributed less.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 11:27 AM (lIU4e)
I believe the other day we were discussing IQ tests?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:34 AM (oKE6c)
I watched NBC Nightly News with Savannah Guthrie last night with mom, ugh. Had a piece on Ted Cruz announcing. Of course they included the bit with the girl asking if the world is on fire, because of COURSE. Scary Republicans! But to their credit they included his whole response to her, which comes across as very sweet. But still.
Loved the story of his family. Compelling. Combined with his educational background he is like the anti Obama.
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 11:34 AM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:35 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Soona
Writing has been on the wall for this RE 401(k) ever since 2009, when the admin's folks crossed the Overton window floating the idea.
Just a matter of time.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 11:35 AM (/Ho8c)
Instead of calling someone the Anti-Gaylord, instead say "this is a person who represents the American ideal."
Erase Gaylord from the argument. Consign him to the rubbish heap of history.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:36 AM (y4+1Q)
Weird. I wonder if they think they might lose some of the Jewish vote to republicans. Because that is odd.
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 11:36 AM (zOTsN)
retirement age, the average is higher" (well, duh), but that's not good
enough (apparently) because you need millions of dollars to retire.
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My BIL just got fired from his job at 46yo. Hates his wife. Had his first child, who is three now. Too young to retire, and he has one year to find a new job.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 11:36 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:37 AM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: Tattoo
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I have lots of photos of my finger. "Here's a nice shot of our campsite, you can kinda of make it out on the right side of the fleshy blob on the left".
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 11:37 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 11:37 AM (zOTsN)
Andy Richter* AndyRichter
If I went in to buy a car Ted Cruz was the salesman, I'd travel five towns over to buy that car from someone else
*Some career you got going there Andy.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:37 AM (kdS6q)
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After reading the gawker deal, I think Old Johnny has some mental problems.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 11:38 AM (A98Xu)
Might as well scream 'lets hide in the cemetery!' as the homicidal maniac chases you.
Let's hide behind the running chainsaws!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 11:38 AM (Ma5u/)
What's up with that? That tattooed poster of him sure beats TFG's.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 23, 2015 11:38 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD)
Don't doubt you're correct.
It became evident very early on that this was an objective in the wake of the Second Great Depression's kickoff.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 11:39 AM (/Ho8c)
Bwahahahahaha. Will never stop being ridic.
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 11:39 AM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 11:37 AM (F2IAQ)
It isn't camping without toasting weenies!
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 11:39 AM (Y92Nd)
1. So?
2. Black people hate black people way more than whites do, why is that?
Posted by: Some Dude at March 23, 2015 11:40 AM (maLc1)
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 11:40 AM (qh617)
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No kidding.
Who the hell are these people they are projecting for?
Let's see: House--paid for. Car--paid for. Property taxes--capped.
So: Utilities, fuel, food and medical, right?
What's all that money going for? Travel, vacations, hookers, drugs?
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 23, 2015 11:41 AM (ZvKdv)
Um, that's not even funny.
Stick to being Conan's fluffer, Andy. (He does still do that, right?)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 23, 2015 11:41 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 23, 2015 11:42 AM (j6e8f)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 11:42 AM (Ma5u/)
If I went in to buy a car Ted Cruz was the salesman, I'd travel five towns over to buy that car from someone else
*Some career you got going there Andy.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:37 AM (kdS6q)
Why is Andy Richter such a horrible racist? Why wouldn't he want to buy a car from a Latino?
Also, can we stop calling him a comedian? That is ridiculously unfiunny schtick.
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 11:42 AM (yRwC8)
>>>Is it time to remind people how ENRON shafted its own employees on retirement?
Diversification is good for risk mgt. If you only have your money in the company you work for, you are up a creek when it dies.
A lot of people need a very basic financial education on the dollar cost averaging, the time value of money and basic things like 'buy low, sell high' (because it always amazes me how many people see the stock market doing poorly and rush to take all their money out. And then talk about how much they lost. Usually when the market has long since rebounded and if they had held out they would have been fine. *facepalm*)
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 11:42 AM (lIU4e)
Vox vox.com
This is what the students at Ted Cruz's announcement were saying on Yik Yak*
*On the edge of my damned seat in anticipation......
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:42 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: President Prolapse at March 23, 2015 11:42 AM (maLc1)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:42 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: President Prolapse at March 23, 2015 11:42 AM (maLc1)
Like you'd have any idea what that looks like.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 11:43 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Fritz at March 23, 2015 11:43 AM (ty633)
If this many people whose political opinions I hate are hating on Cruz, maybe he *does* deserve my time, money, and vote.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:43 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: RoyalOil
Penny slots at the casino.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 11:44 AM (Ma5u/)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 23, 2015 11:42 AM (j6e8f)
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You mean, "never been tempted"
Me either. Why does this sound appealing to anyone?
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 11:44 AM (A98Xu)
I saw a study a while back that said that a large portion of retirees don't have their house paid for when retiring. They probably took an equity loan to go on vacation.
What this tells me is that like so many things in life, there is a barbell in the data. Many people save for retirement responsibly, and there is a chunk of people who don't care, and expect everybody else to pay for their mistakes.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 11:44 AM (2ePOO)
>>>I've been seeing them say for a few years now that you need something in the area of $1 million to $1.5 million minimum to retire
1 million is a nice round number that would feel like an accomplishment, so I think that's why people aim at it. What kills me is all the articles that keep freaking people out saying they need way more than that. Maybe?
I say, save money over time and hope for the best. Any amount is better than zero. 500k, 1m, 3m. Don't scare yourself out of saving at all by worrying that you won't have enough.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 11:44 AM (lIU4e)
The Red Light District? In that case, probably 100% correct.
Posted by: HH at March 23, 2015 11:45 AM (Ce4DF)
Posted by: GMan at March 23, 2015 11:45 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 11:47 AM (zOTsN)
I look forward to reading Twitchy today, and seeing the documented twitter hate compiled for my enjoyment. Only way it could be better is if I had some haterade to drink while reading all the meltdowns.
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 11:47 AM (yRwC8)
You have broken the code.
I think it was a master stroke to announce this early. He pretty much gets to set the agenda and the talking points. That they will be conservative is even better.
We need a national conversation on the role of government. There are a lot of disillusioned TFG voters out there. I even know a few.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 23, 2015 11:47 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 23, 2015 11:41 AM (ZvKdv)
Maybe not so much the hookers and drugs... but yes.
The vision of retirement the "retirement advisers" are selling is one wherein you do all that stuff you wanted to do as a 20-something, but had to defer because "your career got in the way."
So you should go on multiple cruises ever year, and buy an RV (on credit, natch), and "travel the world" and so forth.
Me? I want my grandparents farm to be fixed, and to retire out to Eastland, TX, where- like my grandfather before me- I can raise red cows ("Because I like red cows.") and sell hay.
More and more I think "You can take this city life and shove it."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:47 AM (kff5f)
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I wish. They are our biggest expense. The local Progressives just can't seem to collect enough to pay for their walking trails and bicycle paths.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 11:47 AM (F2IAQ)
In 2000, Richter left his post at Late Night with Conan O'Brien to pursue a career acting in films and television.
[List of failures]
In 2009 it was announced that Richter would be joining Conan O'Brien once again as the announcer for The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:48 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:48 AM (y4+1Q)
Some two year old obit of a Nigerian author, Chinua Achebe, was making the rounds on social media. Susan Rice thought it was current and tweeted:
@AmbassadorRice: Despite the promise of the future, today is a somber day in Nigeria, as Chinua Achebe was laid to rest in his native village.
This tweet along with another where she claimed his words left a 'lasting impression' on her have now been deleted and replaced with:
@AmbassadorRice: Any occasion to remember life&legacy of Chinua Achebe,is worth noting (+good reminder to read fine print!)
Apparently his words left a 'lasting impression' but his death, not so much.
Buncha idiots.
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2015 11:48 AM (v0/PR)
Some idiot has signed up for ObamaCare but given them MY CELL PHONE NUMBER.
I've gotten four calls today already, and others over the weekend, from insurance companies wanting to sell to me.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 23, 2015 11:49 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 11:49 AM (wlDny)
Posted by: Lea
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Pinch every penny until it squeals. Tuck away every dime you can. Live as modestly as it is practically possible.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 11:50 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 23, 2015 11:50 AM (gfB4n)
Progressives just can't seem to collect enough to pay for their walking
trails and bicycle paths.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
That's the way they sell the road improvements around here.
"It'll have a bike lane"!!!!!!
Posted by: Bruce at March 23, 2015 11:51 AM (8ikIW)
Yeah...maybe the start of less stolen elections in Wisconsin. Voter ID stands.
Posted by: bossy barbara at March 23, 2015 11:52 AM (l1zOH)
Cruz' announcement is proof he can't raise money. See, 'cause most candidates go through the exploratory committee first to see if they can line up the big donors. And he didn't so he's announcing early because he needs cash.
Um, yeah.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 23, 2015 11:52 AM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: RoyalOil
Paying the doctors to saw off your feet and to perform tonsilectomies.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 11:53 AM (/Ho8c)
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2010/10/political-cartoons-1991.html
Or these political cartoons?
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2010/10/political-cartoons-1995.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:53 AM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: Adriane the GOT ain't got nothin' on the Plantagenets ... at March 23, 2015 11:53 AM (nSOh+)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580031242437046272
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580031688035540992
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580032842555494401
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580033401949843456
Posted by: kbdabear at March 23, 2015 11:54 AM (GrXXa)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 23, 2015 11:54 AM (j6e8f)
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 23, 2015 11:54 AM (Bl8Zy)
Oh oh oh legal geekery and also batshittery update! So. I got the court files on some other cases against our sovereign person defendant guy and in one of them he made a counterclaim for copyright infringement because, well, that's where it gets a little murky. (It's the whole oh you are suing me the living person but that was me the corporation and the living person never said you could use the corporate name - I think. It's a bit difficult to discern).
But yes. Copyright infringement for using his name. Sure, why not?
At least he uses punctuation in more or less the normal fashion.
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 23, 2015 11:54 AM (mf5HN)
"It'll have a bike lane"!!!!!!
Posted by: Bruce
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City council spent $250,000 to add a bike lane to 5 blocks of a local road.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 11:55 AM (F2IAQ)
Charli Peach @PoliticsPeach
@madeinhb Ummm I've read your TL I meant ALL that I said...Questions abt Ted Cruz's ability 2 run 4 POTUS are valid but PBO's were NOT
Grl - i wanna git wit U.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 11:55 AM (kdS6q)
Another skull for the throne. If only he wasn't so problematic on illegal immigration...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 11:55 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Adriane the GOT ain't got nothin' on the Plantagenets Critic ... at March 23, 2015 11:55 AM (nSOh+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 11:55 AM (F2IAQ)
Somebody's cousin needed a job AND money. Hard to spend $250K on 4 blocks of blacktop 3 feet wide when the land is free.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 11:57 AM (wlDny)
Posted by: Adriane the GOT ain't got nothin' on the Plantagenets Critic ... at March 23, 2015 11:57 AM (nSOh+)
So he's down with the Machine, when it's conveeeeeeeenient.
Yeah, that's going to go over great.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 11:57 AM (DT3rQ)
Loves: Princess Bride. Never go in against a Cruz when the constitution is on the line!
Hates: avocadoes, even though he is Latino and lives in Texas. DISQUALIFIED.
I keed. Watch the libs try to turn that into a wedge issue.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ol9o8pl
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 11:57 AM (yRwC8)
>>So how close is the 401K seizure? If it's eminent, I'll start withdrawing it so I can get SOME use out of the money.
Not close at all. If you start withdrawing now (assuming you are below retirement age), you will just give them what they want.
Which is more taxes. The biggest danger is that they will elminate the tax advantages of 401ks, IRAs, etc... The first danger, at any rate.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 11:57 AM (lIU4e)
Sounds like defendant guy is desperately trying to baffle with the bovine excrement. Are we sure this is not the resident non-sacred bovine?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 11:57 AM (y4+1Q)
Yeah... That's the thing, it's going to be very hard to judge.
I wouldn't lay any large wagers *against* it happening before the end of the SCOAMT's term. Then again, I wouldn't lay any large wagers *on* it happening before the end of the SCOAMT's term.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 11:57 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 11:44 AM (2ePOO)
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First off, this whole "retirement" thing is something that would be seen right out of the Frankfort School. It's a European socialist ideal.
It used to be that people didn't retire until they absolutely couldn't work anymore. Then they'd depend or move into extended family households that would care for and feed them.
I had many of my relatives work until they literally dropped dead. They lived well until then. They are my roll model. I do NOT plan on retiring.
Posted by: Al Sharpton at March 23, 2015 11:58 AM (/HX7u)
Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2015 11:58 AM (KETbL)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 11:50 AM (F2IAQ)
Save as much as possible in this life, so that you'll be able to enjoy the next one?
Take a chance, go for the gold, live like this is the only life you're going to get.
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 11:58 AM (9ZZd+)
will elminate the tax advantages of 401ks, IRAs, etc... The first
danger, at any rate.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 11:57 AM (lIU4e)
Since that was an actual congressional act that will be hard to do until they get back in charge of congress.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 11:59 AM (wlDny)
Yeah, that's going to go over great.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 11:57 AM (DT3rQ)
Oh there's alllllll kinds of extra super duper awesome fun times in this stuff.
It's very much no sudden movements, keep your hands in view type stuff.
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 23, 2015 11:59 AM (mf5HN)
Property taxes--capped.
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I wish. They are our biggest expense. The local Progressives just
can't seem to collect enough to pay for their walking trails and bicycle
paths.
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Oh, I'm sorry. You don't live in Texas.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 23, 2015 11:59 AM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 11:59 AM (/HX7u)
Pen and phone, beyotch.
Posted by: El Preezy at March 23, 2015 12:00 PM (kff5f)
http://tinyurl.com/ndgln2k
Champion of the little guy, Diane Feinstein's husband awarded billion dollar contract.
You know, helping the little people is it's own reward.
Well, that and lots of taxpayer money, anyway.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 12:00 PM (BZAd3)
So... at what point do you get to look at the client and say, "You're fired?"
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:00 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:01 PM (Ma5u/)
Posted by: Vic
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The same group of assholes have established that a 'living wage' must be paid by all contractors to their workers. Note that the 'living' wage is predicated on what these fabulists think is a necessary wage in this town where they consistently make it more expensive to live. I strongly suspect that very few of the contractor's workers live here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 12:01 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:01 PM (kff5f)
First off, this whole "retirement" thing is something that would be seen right out of the Frankfort School. It's a European socialist ideal. It used to be that people didn't retire until they absolutely couldn't work anymore. Then they'd depend or move into extended family households that would care for and feed them. I had many of my relatives work until they literally dropped dead. They lived well until then. They are my roll model. I do NOT plan on retiring.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 12:01 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at March 23, 2015 12:02 PM (cCxiu)
Posted by: jwest
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You never disappoint.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 12:02 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2015 12:02 PM (wlDny)
You can disagree with Cruz, but he's objectively an extremely smart guy with a very impressive legal career.
But to our Pundit Class he's an icky Sky God believer and therefore a low IQ yokel.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 23, 2015 12:02 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:03 PM (y4+1Q)
Which only makes it more funny when he shows them up, time and time again.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:03 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2015 12:03 PM (AEQXb)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 11:44 AM (Ma5u/)
The father-in-law's wife (not my mother-in-law, God rest her soul) loves to go out to Reno and play the slots. They went on four or five trips to Reno and Vegas per year, two weeks at a time, the whole time spent either visiting with friends, grazing at the buffet, or feeding the one-armed bandit. And the reverse mortgage will only last so long...
Posted by: joncelli at March 23, 2015 12:04 PM (RD7QR)
cruzion.
non thinking ignorant follower.
and i say that as a Walker supporter, but believe Cruz is more conservative and will also support His pushing republicans in general to a more fiscal responsible position .
i would even vote for him if He actually wins the primary.
better choices then the last election Presidential cycle
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:04 PM (nqBYe)
cruzion.
non thinking ignorant follower.
and i say that as a Walker supporter, but believe Cruz is more conservative and will also support His pushing republicans in general to a more fiscal responsible position .
i would even vote for him if He actually wins the primary.
better choices then the last election Presidential cycle
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:04 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:00 PM (kff5f)
Oh he's not our client, he's the defendant in something. And, shock of all shocks, he is pro se in all of these actions.
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 23, 2015 12:04 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:04 PM (Bn6aD)
What this tells me is that like so many things in life, there is a barbell in the data. Many people save for retirement responsibly, and there is a chunk of people who don't care, and expect everybody else to pay for their mistakes.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 11:44 AM (2ePOO)
It's kind of like the lottery: a tax on people who can't do math, aka a stupidity tax.
As for people who expect everybody else to pay for their mistakes, experience shows that their calculation is probably correct. It comes down to this: some people's sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others. It's important that some people get greased for making stupid mistakes, and that we close our ears to the bleating about how they're suffering. For many of them, much like people on Death Row, that is probably one of the few contributions they ever made to society: to show others what NOT to do.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:05 PM (oKE6c)
Isn't the client for the Empress' firm the folks he's suing, and the crank is going pro se?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 12:05 PM (DT3rQ)
To stoop to credentialism, he graduated with honors from Princeton.
And he's demonstrated infinitely more intellect than Gaylord ever has.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 23, 2015 12:05 PM (MMC8r)
Oh. Well that's better, I guess.
So... how many cases has he *won*?
Wait, wait! Let me guess: zero.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:05 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:05 PM (y4+1Q)
You are devoting most of your energies to planning a podcast for our amusement, aren't you?
Aren't you?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2015 12:06 PM (1xUj/)
As I thought. These "sovereign citizen" folks always go pro se, that's how they roll...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 12:06 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 12:06 PM (zOTsN)
You can disagree with Cruz, but he's objectively an extremely smart guy with a very impressive legal career.
But to our Pundit Class he's an icky Sky God believer and therefore a low IQ yokel.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 23, 2015 12:02 PM (ZPrif)
Allen Dershowitz said of him "I've had 10,000 students over my 50 years at Harvard . . . he has to qualify among the brightest of the students." and...."Off the charts brilliant,".
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2015 12:06 PM (v0/PR)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:03 PM (y4+1Q)
Pro tip: the taste of a potassium salt depends on the anion, not on the cation.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:06 PM (oKE6c)
i don't care caramel can be a brunch food!
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:06 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 12:02 PM (F2IAQ)
It must come from growing up with a father in the car business. Good years and bad years. The thrill of the good years beat out the lows of the bad years.
I would have hated to have my kids grow up in plain vanilla wage earner household without the ups and downs of capitalism.
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 12:07 PM (9ZZd+)
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Got an answer last week from a sovereign citizen fellow.
No zip code in the address block.
Last name in [brackets].
Phrased his (unnecessary) almost-verification with "from without the United States."
Referred to himself as DEFAMED PARTY. ('Cause I'd sued him.)
Lied and claimed we were working the issue out privately.
"Requires" the judge to grant him an abatement to continue working it out but titled his "answer" as a "motion to dismiss for lack of justiciable controversy."
No. Give my client his property back you fucking thief.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 23, 2015 12:07 PM (ZvKdv)
And Harvard Law.
And has argued (and won) cases before SCOTUS.
So, basically, has infinitely more actual accomplishment than the SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:07 PM (kff5f)
As does a ham sandwich...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:08 PM (Bn6aD)
It came from Bismarck, who was co-opting the socialists in Germany. He set the retirement age at 65 because few people made it to 65 then, when the average age at death was mid-forties.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:09 PM (oKE6c)
http://tinyurl.com/m7lc7e3
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 12:09 PM (BZAd3)
Aren't you?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2015 12:06 PM (1xUj/)
Maybe. Maybe not.
Maybe one has already been recorded. Maybe not.
*cloaks self in mystery*
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 23, 2015 12:10 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:10 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:07 PM (kff5f)
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Did he win those cases? That's what the MFM will focus on.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 12:10 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:10 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:07 PM (kff5f)
But he never once organized a community. That could be a problem.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 12:10 PM (BZAd3)
Supposedly He's released all his grades...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:10 PM (Bn6aD)
Will it at least clock in at 90 minutes or less?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:10 PM (kff5f)
I like Ted Cruz, but if Sarah Palin wants the job, she will be the 2016 Republican presidential nominee.
Posted by: mrp at March 23, 2015 12:11 PM (JBggj)
And Harvard Law.
And has argued (and won) cases before SCOTUS.
So, basically, has infinitely more actual accomplishment than the SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:07 PM (kff5f)
Nah... He's not a "Constitutional Scholar" (aka: part time, adjunct professor teaching how to sue because Racist!)
Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2015 12:11 PM (AEQXb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:11 PM (y4+1Q)
We will hear soon what dirt there is on him. And it will be fed to the press by Jeb
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 12:11 PM (zOTsN)
That's why I had "and won" in parentheses.
He didn't win all of them, certainly, but I know he won some.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:11 PM (kff5f)
can't seem to collect enough to pay for their walking trails and bicycle
paths.
They've just started that shit here in my (formerly conservative) little burg. Enormous wide bike paths everywhere, with no one using them, of course.
They promulgated a survey that asked how they were doing on promoting "connectedness," whatever that is. I ... uh ... told them.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:11 PM (oKE6c)
Supposedly He's released all his grades...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:10 PM (Bn6aD)
that's already way better than tfg holding the office currently
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:12 PM (nqBYe)
You are devoting most of your energies to planning a podcast for our amusement, aren't you? Aren't you?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2015 12:06 PM (1xUj/)
One more person chiming in saying that I don't care how long the podcasts are, moar Alex and Cochran the better! But I listen to podcasts while doing other tasks, cooking and such, so length is irrelevant. As long as you don't out having to edit them, make the podcasts as long or short as you want.
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 12:12 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 11:58 AM (9ZZd+)
Yeah, I never seen a luggage rack on a hearse.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 23, 2015 12:12 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:12 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 12:12 PM (/HX7u)
.
.
.You missed the latest Lib talking points memo. The Living Wage mantra has been changed. Now that Target and Walmart both are paying way more than the minimum wage, the cry for equality has now evolved into 40 hour workweeks and full benefits.
Do try and keep up.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 23, 2015 12:12 PM (4oSLk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:13 PM (y4+1Q)
That and He can't run because.... Not a Citizen....
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:13 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 12:14 PM (yRwC8)
More or less.
The City Council keeps trying to get them to fly here in Arlington. So far it hasn't worked (at least, not the ones they want).
Seriously, there are about 4 months out of the year when you can bike (comfortably) to work. And even then you're going to get to work all sweaty and gross- and your employer probably doesn't have a place where you can take a shower.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:14 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Fritz at March 23, 2015 12:14 PM (ty633)
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira
Is this a see-thru mystery, or maybe just clingy?
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:15 PM (/Ho8c)
That and He can't run because.... Not a Citizen....
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:13 PM (Bn6aD)
And architect, grand Wizard of the govmint shutdown!!!
Posted by: MSM prepping their lies at March 23, 2015 12:15 PM (yRwC8)
fem,race,rich/poor, religion! we might be able to look at people without omg is the coffee server going to fk with me when i only want my coffee.
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:15 PM (nqBYe)
Have a friend- single mom- works at a local factory (not GM, but I'm not sure which one). The entire plant apparently just got cut to 32 hrs / wk.
I can't imagine why...
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:16 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:10 PM (Bn6aD)
Supposedly, some of his professors at Harvard actually remember him.
Dershowitz called him, "Off the charts brilliant..."
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 12:16 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: MSM prepping their lies at March 23, 2015 12:15 PM (yRwC8
That should be an automatic qualifier
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:16 PM (vPh3W)
Funny How nobody seems to remember obama as a student...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:17 PM (Bn6aD)
http://www.shoebuy.com/pleaser-seduce-4010/488025/1031339
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:17 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: MSM prepping their lies at March 23, 2015 12:15 PM (yRwC
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And before Choomy's next year and a half are up, that's going to become a plus.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 12:17 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira
That's not a lot of mystery.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:17 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:17 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Barky at March 23, 2015 12:17 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 12:17 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:18 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: DangerGirl, footloose and Partyfree at March 23, 2015 12:18 PM (Oqufv)
Posted by: Moderate Salami
..........
How can you tell when it is also wrapped in an enigma?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 23, 2015 12:18 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:18 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 12:18 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:15 PM (/Ho8c)
Burka
Posted by: the government at March 23, 2015 12:19 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 12:19 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:18 PM (nqBYe)
Looks like willow's been dropping acid.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:19 PM (2Ojst)
I must be A.D.D. riddled today, there for a second I thought you were Panty Free. And I thought AWESOME
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:19 PM (vPh3W)
And because Dewhurst shat all over Conservatives in the process.
The sad thing is that Dewhurst (apparently) never realized that the only reason he was Lt. Gov was because of Perry's "Run as one Administration" strategy.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:19 PM (kff5f)
Insurgent's $54 million opening weekend blew away Gunman's paltry $5 million.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:19 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 12:19 PM (zOTsN)
Well said
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (rDqRv)
*cloaks self in mystery*
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira
Is this a see-thru mystery, or maybe just clingy?
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:15 PM (/Ho8c)
Ooooh.......with stilleto-heeled stompy enigmas.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (Fr8iN)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (nqBYe)
Insurgent's $54 million opening weekend blew away Gunman's paltry $5 million.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:19 PM (y4+1Q)
Cool. Not because I give a toss about the Divergent series, but because f*ck Sean Penn.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (2Ojst)
....................
Muahahahaha.. the deception is working!
Posted by: RNC at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
Interpreted it the same way here. So, maybe something other than ADD.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (gmeXX)
I probably need to read those books.
I heard the first one is really good, and the second two don't quite deliver on the promise of the first, though.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (kff5f)
Didn't they invent cars so we wouldn't have to ride bicycles?
Posted by: the government at March 23, 2015 12:21 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: MSM prepping their lies at March 23, 2015 12:15 PM (yRwC
And, puts the toilet paper roll on the wrong way!
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 12:21 PM (h6Mpm)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (/Ho8c)
No, that's just called "being a Moron."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:22 PM (kff5f)
You know, helping the little people is it's own reward.
Well, that and lots of taxpayer money, anyway.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 12:00 PM (BZAd3)
Boy, does that stink. I guess the nomenklatura take care of their own.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:22 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 12:19 PM (zOTsN)
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Nail -- hammered. A real choice for Americans for once. And he does express American Constitutional ideals well.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 12:22 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (/Ho8c)
Moron Madness?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:22 PM (vPh3W)
Now That Ted Cruz has Declared His Candidacy-
You Ever Seen the Guy's Resume?
-Reaganite Republican
http://bit.ly/Cruz-exp
Posted by: mindful webworker - essentially at March 23, 2015 12:23 PM (qScIa)
i consider it possibly the best brunch idea ever.
but here i am with it dripping into my hand, lonely and un eaten.
i just don't understand. tears coming soon!
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:23 PM (nqBYe)
Didn't they invent cars so we wouldn't have to ride bicycles?
Posted by: the government at March 23, 2015 12:21 PM (S+el1)
Yeah, and they invented buses so we wouldn't have to ride street cars, and airplanes so we wouldn't have to ride railroads. What's your point?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:23 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 12:23 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 23, 2015 12:23 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (2Ojst)
............
Spicoli is simply not believable as a bad ass.
Posted by: RNC at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (so+oy)
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While I find it unlikely that he will win the nomination, I wouldn't underestimate him. He appears to have good political instincts.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (Fr8iN)
i consider it possibly the best brunch idea ever.
but here i am with it dripping into my hand, lonely and un eaten.
i just don't understand. tears coming soon!
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:23 PM (nqBYe)
I mean...how sad.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (2Ojst)
That just can't be. Isn't Cruz a Nazi who did away with the Joos?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (oTFCG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (2Ojst)
Context is everything . . .
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 12:25 PM (h6Mpm)
"I'm sure any day now @realDonaldTrump will be asking to see @tedcruz's birth certificate. JK LOL he's white! #OhCanada "
These are the jokes, ppl. #fail
Aaaaaand bonus: the first "white hispanic" line of the Cruz camaign?
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 12:25 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:25 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (vPh3W)
Worse. Hispanic.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 12:25 PM (h6Mpm)
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That doesn't mean it was unhelpful. Her endorsement got a lot of people talking early on. Now I don't think her endorsement put him over the top or that he would not have won without it - but it was a very helpful endorsement to give Cruz some instant credibility with many.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:26 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:26 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira
That's not a lot of mystery.
Posted by: Insomniac
Ooh, is that a fleece mystery? Hope she didn't go with one of those all-synthetic ones, they aren't comfortable at all...
I heard the first one is really good, and the second two don't quite deliver on the promise of the first, though.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon
The ending is...not quite YA standard. I wonder if Hollywood will stay true to it...
Also, Gunman barely made more than Kingsman.
Which has been out, what, five weeks now? (And was a far more enjoyable movie...)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 12:26 PM (DT3rQ)
That is, indeed, one impressive resume.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:26 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 23, 2015 12:26 PM (Fr8iN)
Dershowitz called him, "Off the charts brilliant..."
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 12:16 PM (BZAd3)
And note, he says that NOW, unlike Laurence Tribe, who said that about Obama the NIGHT BEFORE the election. As for contemporary utterings, zip. I guess Tribe only appreciated Obama's brilliance after he'd reflected on it for a few decades.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:26 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:27 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:27 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:25 PM (nqBYe)
Outside the gutter is a scary, hostile world filled with . . . non-gutter-mind-dwellers.
Icky.
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 12:27 PM (h6Mpm)
I don't remember much about the Palin endorsement either.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 23, 2015 12:27 PM (LA7Cm)
>>Insurgent's $54 million opening weekend blew away Gunman's paltry $5 million.
I've never heard of 'gunman'. I didn't like the end of that book series and I thought the Divergent was kind of a mediocre film. Did you see Insurgent? Is it worth seeing?
I dont' think even my 'cheesy YA movie adaptation' group is going to see it.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 12:27 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 12:27 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:27 PM (/Ho8c)
That's true.
I hope to work up to 1 full circuit by the end of next week. We'll see how that goes (the not-quite 1 full circuit kicked my @$$ today).
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:27 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:28 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2015 12:28 PM (KETbL)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:28 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:28 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 23, 2015 12:28 PM (Fr8iN)
Its like me visiting Madison. YUCKY, YUCKY, POO-POO
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:28 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:28 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:29 PM (/Ho8c)
Behold the racism of the Progressives. When it's inconvenient that someone is a minority, their minority status (he's ethnically Cuban) is ignored or even called "inauthentic."
F*ck that guy.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:29 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:24 PM (y4+1Q)
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Heh. I was thinking in terms of "thorazine republicans".
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 12:29 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:29 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: ThunderB, Cruzader at March 23, 2015 12:29 PM (zOTsN)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/selection-du-weekend-132-24.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:29 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 23, 2015 12:30 PM (Spluw)
>>>Yeah, and they invented buses so we wouldn't have to ride street cars, and airplanes so we wouldn't have to ride railroads.
People around here keep yaking about expanding the trolley system. Newsflash! No one but the occasional tourist ever rides it and it ganks up the roads. And Bus's are more flexible. So so stupid.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 12:30 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 12:30 PM (DT3rQ)
No zip code in the address block.
Last name in [brackets].
Phrased his (unnecessary) almost-verification with "from without the United States."
Referred to himself as DEFAMED PARTY. ('Cause I'd sued him.)
Lied and claimed we were working the issue out privately.
"Requires" the judge to grant him an abatement to continue working it out but titled his "answer" as a "motion to dismiss for lack of justiciable controversy."
No. Give my client his property back you fucking thief.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 23, 2015 12:07 PM (ZvKdv)
Hoo boy, sovereign citizens. I learned a bit about them from a local cop a while back. He said that whenever they needed to go talk to them they would bring a local sheriff because they're elected by the people (so they would take directions from and follow what the sheriffs say) , whereas the staties/Feds are not elected.
Posted by: Mainah at March 23, 2015 12:30 PM (659DL)
http://tinyurl.com/2oaqxk
So it's come to this...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:31 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 12:31 PM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 23, 2015 12:31 PM (Fr8iN)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 12:31 PM (DT3rQ)
All you need to know is that it stars Sean Penn, a man so whipped dating Charlize Theron that he gladly threw away all his icky guns when she batted her eyes and asked him to. But he is starring in a movie that features guns. The cognitive dissonance in libs is impressive.
But seeing as he is a rabid anti-capitalist, he should be TRILLED his crappy movie didn't do well! Who needs money anyway, right?
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 12:32 PM (yRwC8)
Kind of like some weird story about someone in the news and it suddenly hits you.
"Hell, I knew that guy back in H.S. And he was an a**hole then".
Posted by: HH at March 23, 2015 12:32 PM (Ce4DF)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAJ-y7eGzTI&sns=tw
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 23, 2015 12:32 PM (oTFCG)
His article on Congress as a branch of govt with actual abilities to lay out congress's rights was funnay. that it even needed to be said.
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:32 PM (nqBYe)
So it's come to this...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 23, 2015 12:31
Yes, and it's only Monday.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:33 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:20 PM (nqBYe)
I think its nice to see the true colors of some of these fools. Conservative, my ass.
Posted by: DangerGirl, footloose and Partyfree at March 23, 2015 12:33 PM (Oqufv)
Well since the issue is raised, here's a fine pair of boobies:
http://tinyurl.com/2oaqxk
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 12:30 PM (DT3rQ)
Beaks are pretty pointy - must be chilly out.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 23, 2015 12:33 PM (Fr8iN)
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Never said that and I don't disagree. But he wasn't all that well known - even on this board. I remember early on people were questioning Cruz on this board (I'm not saying you were). And that's ok - skepticism is good.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:33 PM (gmeXX)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/selection-du-weekend-132-26.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:33 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:33 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 23, 2015 12:33 PM (Fr8iN)
Must be. Their feet have turned blue.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:33 PM (2Ojst)
>>>Unless you're able to do something shorter than a thirty year mortgage, and unless you're doing it in your 20s, you're going to be paying off your house in your 60s-70s
I'm on a 26 week pay schedule so I just pay an extra payment a year towards the principal. It knock, idk, 8years or sooff it?
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (lIU4e)
The question is will be able to keep the base engaged?
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:33 PM (nqBYe)
I'll be in my bunk...
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (vPh3W)
As a comparison the Canadian government honours treaty rights with natives because-or so the argument goes-treaties signed 150 years ago are legally binding. Wouldn't that also appy to financial instruments?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (4+sJl)
*raises hand*
*spears another bite of crow*
I was! I was the one lamenting that the Republican primary had: David Dewhurst, "a Harvard Lawyer," and "The Mayor of Dallas," as the only choices.
You know what they say- one of the benefits of being a cynic is that being wrong means you're *pleasantly* surprised.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:35 PM (kff5f)
licks fingertips then lips.
(this is too easy)
Posted by: comrade willow
*howls at moon, stomps on ground, passes out*
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:35 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Twoslaps at March 23, 2015 12:35 PM (8A8Wt)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 23, 2015 12:36 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 23, 2015 12:36 PM (rwI+c)
>>All you need to know is that it stars Sean Penn, a man so whipped dating Charlize Theron that he gladly threw away all his icky guns when she batted her eyes and asked him to.
Ah, gotcha. I haven't seen anything Sean Penn in a very long time.
But then, i don't see too many movies. I did see Cinderella starring Rob Stark as the Prince of Winterfell, I mean whereever Cinderella lives.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 12:36 PM (lIU4e)
Unless you're able to do something shorter than a thirty year mortgage, and unless you're doing it in your 20s, you're going to be paying off your house in your 60s-70s.
--
One of my basic rules of finance is that if you can't buy the place on a 15 year fixed rate mortgage, you can't afford the house.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 12:36 PM (2ePOO)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:36 PM (nqBYe)
Heh.
Posted by: Geronimo at March 23, 2015 12:37 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 23, 2015 12:37 PM (DL2i+)
Basically, they're saying he's not a moderate, but only talks like one, and that was his key to success as Fla. governor.
I was actually sympathetic to the guy after I read the article. Then I remembered he's a Bush--their middle name is Betrayal.
Plus, the brand is box-office poison.
But the article is a good read.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 23, 2015 12:37 PM (laMCB)
Whoops, forgot to answer this. It was a decent film, I haven't read the books but supposedly the movie is better. But I'm not running out to see the sequel, will wait for cheap theater.
The problem with Hollywood latching onto a genre when it makes money, is that these films start to blend together. I keep mixing up visuals in my head from both Insurgent and The Giver in my head. Not sure if that is a fault of genre overload or boring, uncreative production design.
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 12:37 PM (yRwC8)
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Very rarely does a politician surprise you in a good way. Enjoy it while you can.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:37 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: exdem13 at March 23, 2015 12:37 PM (/mTq0)
Okay here is one to have fun with. Caption This
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/selection-du-weekend-132-40.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:37 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 23, 2015 12:37 PM (laMCB)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:38 PM (Ma5u/)
Baby steps.
Posted by: Twoslaps at March 23, 2015 12:38 PM (8A8Wt)
Posted by: DangerGirl, footloose and Partyfree at March 23, 2015 12:38 PM (Oqufv)
Should we set the Cruz control now?
Ludicrous speed!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:38 PM (Ma5u/)
Me too.
What gives me hope is that they took it away from George Lucas.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:38 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:39 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 23, 2015 12:37 PM (laMCB)
Its the Weekly Standard... all Washington, all the time...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 12:39 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:39 PM (y4+1Q)
>>The problem with Hollywood latching onto a genre when it makes money, is that these films start to blend together
you should watch the Honest Trailer for Divergent. I'd link it but I have trouble linking youtube...
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 12:39 PM (lIU4e)
I was actually sympathetic to the guy after I read the article. Then I remembered he's a Bush--their middle name is Betrayal.
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I don't detest Jeb like some on this board. In general, I like his family - knowing full well they are not the domestic conservatives I wish they were.
And I was hoping Jeb would run in 2012 - just because I did not like Romney.
But Jeb's time is done.
If he wins - maybe like AllenG we will all be pleasently surprised.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:39 PM (gmeXX)
Should we set the Cruz control now?
Ludicrous speed!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:38 PM (Ma5u/)
Just don't go Plaid....
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 12:40 PM (qh617)
The question is will be able to keep the base engaged?
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (gmeXX
Forgot who is in the White House?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:40 PM (vPh3W)
effect, entered a contract with the government. Breaking that contract
seems criminal. But I guess there's nothing new about the government
taking criminal action.
Yep. The government pushes something, and then when people do it, they get penalized for it, as the government moves the goalposts after the fact. For example, "we've got to encourage purchase of fuel-efficient cars!" A few years later, "Oh, fcuk, gasoline tax revenues are down. Now we'll taxes mileage instead."
Or here in CA, "We've got to encourage solar power!" A few years later, "Oh fcuk, the utilities aren't making as much money (and therefore neither are we). We've got to tax solar power!"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:40 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (S+el1)
I fall for that every time :-/
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 23, 2015 12:40 PM (laMCB)
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:34 PM (gmeXX
Forgot who is in the White House?
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But remembered who was leading Congress.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (gmeXX)
I notice that the topic drew out all the usual mobys and "Concerned Christian Conservatives"-
that's a good sign. They're scared of Cruz.
Second - go back and look at Ronald Reagan's run in 1980.
The exact same things were said about him-
unelectable
too radical
too far out of the mainstream
etc
That are said about Cruz.
The ball is in Cruz's court. He can win if he presents himself correctly.
We'll see.
My big question is-
Which Republican will try to play a John Anderson-type spoiler should Cruz get the nomination?
That's the way the GOPe and Dims and Our Betters tried to hamstring Reagan.
I betting on Jeb.
His whole fuck the base routine had the smell of John Anderson-3rd Party about it.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: DangerGirl, footloose and Partyfree at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (Oqufv)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (Ma5u/)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (y4+1Q)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:40 PM (vPh3W)
either
1) TFG isn't running, in which case "who is in the White House" is vastly less important than who he's running against.
2) TFG is running, in which case *types* *deletes*
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 12:42 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2015 12:42 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (nqBYe)
No but it helps
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2015 12:42 PM (rDqRv)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:42 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (gmeXX)
Saddz face :-(
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:43 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2015 12:43 PM (KETbL)
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I'm actually in favor of this because I think it will start to erode SS's support. SS is sold as a I paid in to the system so I should get something out, but it is really just a welfare system. The sooner we make it look more like a welfare system, the sooner its overwhelming support will weaken.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:43 PM (gmeXX)
"Troll" the term is more powerful than Obi Wan could ever dream, and all your alls use of it inspires vastly tremendously.
Posted by: Twoslaps at March 23, 2015 12:43 PM (8A8Wt)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:43 PM (y4+1Q)
Christian School. Big part of his family's transformation. Plus Patrick Henry reference.
I'm guessing.
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 12:43 PM (iVjJr)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:44 PM (nqBYe)
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Needs grassroot socon financial support?
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:44 PM (gmeXX)
JJ Abrams can do action movies, though. I'm willing to give it a try.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:44 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:45 PM (nqBYe)
Our candidate should run against him anyway, just the way the Reds ran against W. Make EVERYTHING about Obongo. Make their candidate either embrace Obongo, or reject him, but force him to make the choice. Either way will fragment support for the candidate.
And if Obongo steps into the fray to defend his record (although how he could do that beggars the imagination), all the better. He'll upstage the Reds' candidate by doing so. Perfect.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:45 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: rickb223
*lightbulb appears above head, raises hand*
Memememememememememememememe!
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 12:45 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 12:36 PM (lIU4e)
Did you like it? I read a great review that said it was so earnestly straightforward in its telling of the classic story, that after over a decade of fractured/revisionist fairytales, it felt almost revolutionary. Really want to see.
And apparently the leads have such chemistry, and Branagh loved working with them so much, that they are going to star in his production of Romeo and Juliet he's doing in London. I miss the days when Hollywood stars had genuine lightning chemistry together, that was good to hear!
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 12:45 PM (yRwC8)
Support will weaken? Pfffft. BFD. When they have the power of the gun and take it out before you ever see it, they don't need your support.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:45 PM (Ma5u/)
My concern from using LU as a backdrop is that the left will try to dig up the ghost of the Moral Majority and Jerry Falwell to attack with.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 12:46 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:38 PM (Ma5u/)
Just don't go Plaid....
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 12:40 PM (qh617)
At least you'll be surrounded by Morons.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 23, 2015 12:46 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:46 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:41 PM (nqBYe)
No but it helps
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2015 12:42 PM (rDqRv)
I don't hate him, but .... no more Bushes, Clintons, or (God help us) Kennedys. Not ever.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:46 PM (oKE6c)
3rd party?
The Pitbull Party
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:46 PM (Ma5u/)
"I'm sure any day now @realDonaldTrump will be asking to see @tedcruz's birth certificate. JK LOL he's white! #OhCanada "
=========================
These clowns always forget it was Hillary! who got the birther ball rolling. That joke wont go very far.
Posted by: MTF, vote for someone the GOP insiders hate! at March 23, 2015 12:46 PM (FCsIb)
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Take SS away from enough people - it is no longer a third rail.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:46 PM (gmeXX)
Yes, because the last thirty years of the republican party have shown them to be 'the party of Cruz.' You're a joke.
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2015 12:47 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 12:47 PM (9ZZd+)
Weeping at PuffinStuff http://is.gd/P3V0cf
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 23, 2015 12:47 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:46 PM (oKE6c)
agree, a thousand times this.
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:47 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:44 PM (nqBYe)
hating the idea of Jeb Bush as the candidate does not mean I would not vote for him if he got the nomination. I mean it's not like I'd EVER pull the lever for a dem. The 2 are not mutually exclusive
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2015 12:47 PM (rDqRv)
Let them.
I'm pretty sure Cruz is prepared for that.
In fact, if there's one candidate from whom I wouldn't be surprised to hear about the links (and even interdependency) between Social and Fiscal Conservatism, it's Ted Cruz.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 12:48 PM (kff5f)
Of course, this is the GOP we're talking about here.
Say hi to the chicken for me.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 23, 2015 12:48 PM (DT3rQ)
Going by media coverage, this Cruz guy is another Republican WASP, huh?
No wonder they do so poorly with Hispanics.
Posted by: CJ at March 23, 2015 12:48 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:48 PM (Ma5u/)
I gathered Cruz would not care.
Mentioned Liberty was one of the first to sue over ACA. Also, the rights given to us by Almighty God.
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 12:48 PM (iVjJr)
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:43 PM (gmeXX)
This is a very astute comment. I will need SS in a few years, but at the rate the country's going, the dollar won't be worth squat anyway.
I'm always amazed at the people who get all pissed off when SS reform is brought up, because "I paid into the system, dammit!"
Dude, that horse bolted long ago. The government took your money and wasted it years ago. Why are you upset NOW?
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 23, 2015 12:49 PM (laMCB)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 12:44 PM (nqBYe
At this point it is only talk. I know I go back and forth. After swearing them off before 2014 election, I did go and vote (R) in the 2014 election. I suspect a true conservative will have the Morons out.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:50 PM (vPh3W)
Dumping Social Security is the key to switching the majority of the black vote from democrat to republican.
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 12:50 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2015 12:50 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: JohnsTH36 at March 23, 2015 12:50 PM (S4DgK)
http://tinyurl.com/mj3o8jn
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2015 12:50 PM (y4+1Q)
We should be shooting by then.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:48 PM (Ma5u/
Spitballs? Because by then ATF will have banned everything else.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:50 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 23, 2015 12:49 PM (laMCB)
That gets me too. The only thing worse is the idiots who babble about the "lockbox," and seem to think that there's some vault with safe deposit boxes, one of which has their name on it. Such people shouldn't be allowed to cross the street by themselves.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:51 PM (oKE6c)
He could be standing in the middle of an opium den and they would say that, if they felt that it served their purposes.
What matters now is how we deals with it and EVERYTHING else that will be conjured up.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 23, 2015 12:51 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2015 12:51 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 12:50 PM (9ZZd+)
You've mentioned that several times. How so? No snark.
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 12:52 PM (iVjJr)
It was battlefield prep, and always BF prep for take over - hell, the one leading the charge was mouthing this prior to the 2008\9 bubble.
My finance guy said it best -"They come for this, there'll be 'Wolverines' spraypainted over anything with US Government soon after."
Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at March 23, 2015 12:52 PM (zL/eJ)
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 12:50 PM (9ZZd+)
Please explain, TIA
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2015 12:52 PM (R8hU8)
>>Did you like it? I read a great review that said it was so earnestly straightforward in its telling of the classic story, that after over a decade of fractured/revisionist fairytales, it felt almost revolutionary. Really want to see.
I liked it fine. I was a little reminded of everafter since it was live action, but there was still magic in it. And no drew barrymore with a terrible accent.
Went to see it with a little cousin dressed in a princess dress! So that was fun.
I was pleasantly surprised Rob Stark was the prince. Because he looks dreamy, like a prince should look. Much more fun than malificent, because it didn't try to do too much of 'the evil queen is actually super nice and just hurt by life'.
Posted by: Lea at March 23, 2015 12:52 PM (lIU4e)
I just bring Falwell and the MM because I have family in PA that still goes apes shit crazy about them and how "their ilk have taken over the republican party".
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 12:52 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 12:51 PM (oKE6c)
They also have a good case against a government that rapes their paycheck every week.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 12:53 PM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 23, 2015 12:53 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Ready for Hillary Combat Information Center at March 23, 2015 12:53 PM (qh617)
Assumes facts not in evidence. Let's see him win the nomination despite the deep strain of cowardice in gop primary voters that got us mccain and mitt, then we'll talk.
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2015 12:54 PM (ZbV+0)
You've mentioned that several times. How so? No snark.
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 12:52 PM (iVjJr)
It'll never happen, so don't sweat it.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 12:54 PM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:48 PM (Ma5u/)
---------------------------------------
Or praying five times a day.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 12:54 PM (/HX7u)
http://tinyurl.com/optv6fk
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 23, 2015 12:55 PM (3tU6u)
Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at March 23, 2015 12:52 PM (zL/eJ)
And the really run part? 3% is way less than the actual rate of inflation...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 12:56 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 12:54 PM (Y92Nd)
I don't understand why this would turn them. Gubmint gets 7.65 percent of every dollar paid and 7.65 percent of every dollar made from people tha WORK. Add SSDI. Seems right up their alley.
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 12:56 PM (iVjJr)
I've got simple criteria for who I want running. I want sitting or recently retired governors from Red or Purple states. I want them to have some actual accomplishments they can talk about.
Working with the democrats is not an accomplishment.
New Jersey is not a red or purple state.
Jeb Bush has been out of office too long to be recently retired.
Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (zt+N6)
35 years ago I'd have been 17. KMFA.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (Ma5u/)
35 years ago I'd have been 17. KMFA.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (Ma5u/)
Its like with historic Temperature Data... they don't like history, so they are trying to change it...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (qh617)
Adorable!!!
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (yRwC8)
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I'm actually in favor of this because I think it will start to erode SS's support. SS is sold as a I paid in to the system so I should get something out, but it is really just a welfare system. The sooner we make it look more like a welfare system, the sooner its overwhelming support will weaken.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:43 PM (gmeXX)
This.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (Y92Nd)
Clinic think Presdent Obama should check to see if he is qualified to run for Presdent. We don't need anyone that wouls lie or try to hide the fact they are not a citizen and try to run for presdent with the idea to change how this county was founeded. Presdent Obama must gaurd against this threat allowed by weak Bush policies....
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (Sd++4)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (vPh3W)
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I'll let Jwest explain his thinking - though I suspect it may be because they get a lousy deal in SS from an actuarial standpoint.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (gmeXX)
Weren't they all pretty weak Mary?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 12:58 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (Ma5u/)
Holy shit.... I'd be 20... in US Navy A School in Great Lakes Ill....
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 12:58 PM (qh617)
Blacks are convinces the deck has been stacked against them from the beginning by the white man, so we affirm that belief by saying that if there had been mandatory Individual Retirement Accounts, black families would have inherited hundreds of thousands each over the years.
We hammer the theory that the accumulated wealth of black families would be far greater today if the democrats hadn't been using them as chumps all these years.
This would bring a sea change and bring the black vote back to republicans for dozens of generations to come.
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 12:59 PM (9ZZd+)
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Roths are getting more attention from the government, though. Lib politicians have been claiming that they're exclusively used by "the rich", and suggesting that existing accounts be taxed. That's in addition to the taxing that's done before the money is even put into the Roth account.
Doesn't stop me from using a Roth for my own retirement account. But it does make me wonder from time to time if I should switch out of it.
Posted by: junior at March 23, 2015 12:59 PM (UWFpX)
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W Bush made this same argument.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 01:00 PM (gmeXX)
suspect it may be because they get a lousy deal in SS from an actuarial
standpoint.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 12:57 PM (gmeXX)
Yeah. Makes sense.
*types**deletes**types**deletes*
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 01:00 PM (iVjJr)
Like Star Wars VII, I....I want to believe....
Me too.
What gives me hope is that they took it away from George Lucas.
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Indeed. There ought to be a good comparison between Lucas being bought out by Disney and the forthcoming *knocks on wood* Republican electoral success.
Posted by: exdem13 at March 23, 2015 01:00 PM (/mTq0)
So.... even MORE wealth redistribution...
You do realize that there are more poor people.. well off people...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 01:00 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2015 01:01 PM (2cS/G)
I've got simple criteria for who I want running. I want sitting or recently retired governors from Red or Purple states.
Posted by: buzzion
So, do you like me -- or do you like me like me?
Posted by: Florida Gov. Rick Scott
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 01:02 PM (kdS6q)
And then they demand lump sum payment and dems, only to happy to buy votes.......
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 01:02 PM (Ma5u/)
I hope it's true.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 01:02 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 01:02 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 12:56 PM (iVjJr)
If blacks don't work now, they sure won't after more of El Jeffe's EOs. They don't make plans on income-generated revenue. That's just their expected gravy.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 01:03 PM (Y92Nd)
Oh... CRAP!
Cruz Missle... inbound..
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Oh lookee, we got a SCUD transport parked by the side of the road while the driver was checking email messages.
Posted by: exdem13 at March 23, 2015 01:04 PM (/mTq0)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 23, 2015 01:04 PM (3tU6u)
Interesting about living modestly--in the run up to our retirement we lived VERY modestly.
Now, after all those years, living modestly is so ingrained that it's difficult to change in any way.
We aren't rich, merely comfortable. But even that is being nibbled at continually by our gov't friends.
I mean to insure that whatever we have remains with us by whatever means becomes necessary, though.
Count on that.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 23, 2015 01:04 PM (jeCnD)
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2015 12:54 PM (ZbV+0)
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Yes, I'm constantly amazed at people who hate the Dems yet get all their news from CNN and USA Today and think that the problem with government is those "hard right wing conservatives" and not enough "bi-partisanship."
Lady, Boner and Pelosi are in cahoots to screw you, and that's not bipartisan enough for ya?
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 23, 2015 01:04 PM (laMCB)
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 01:00 PM (gmeXX)
As with most arguments, it depends on how you make it.
I want this argument made in the spirit of Al Sharpton. If we explain it correctly, blacks will be "peacefully" marching on local democrat offices, burning them down.
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 01:04 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 01:02 PM (kdS6q)
Hey, if he wants to run, give him a spot on the stage. I don't think trying to help get George Zimmerman in prison is a very good accomplishment though.
Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2015 01:05 PM (zt+N6)
LINK: http://preview.tinyurl.com/bewo68e
Don't worry, I won't put them all up
Posted by: mrp at March 23, 2015 01:06 PM (JBggj)
beginning by the white man, so we affirm that belief by saying that if
there had been mandatory Individual Retirement Accounts, black families
would have inherited hundreds of thousands each over the years.
There's a flaw in your plan. You see blacks voting against SS as a matter of vengeance and possibly later as a reward for delivery on it's removal.
The grievance industry will take your argument and demand blacks be given SS reparations, which of course the gope will just put on the national tab like everything else they ought to cut.
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2015 01:06 PM (ZbV+0)
Several days ago, Dan Freidman who writes regularly over at Theo Sparks,
said that some WH insiders told him that Obama is wandering the WH in a
perpetual rage, and that it is all anyone can do to keep him from
blowing his top in public.
I hope it's true.
------------------------
I hope he's monologing to the portraits in true Oliver Stone style. That would warm my heart like a space heater.
Posted by: exdem13 at March 23, 2015 01:06 PM (/mTq0)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 01:06 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: President Prolapse at March 23, 2015 01:06 PM (ASn1R)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2015 01:07 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:07 PM (A98Xu)
I'm always amazed at the people who get all pissed off when SS reform is brought up, because "I paid into the system, dammit!"
Dude, that horse bolted long ago. The government took your money and wasted it years ago. Why are you upset NOW?
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 23, 2015 12:49 PM (laMCB)
Because people honest and truly believe there is some government bank account with their name on it and in that account is all of their Social Security money. Also that account is just for them and no one else can take money from it.
I've been called a liar to my face for pointing out that is not true and that the only thing propping up Social Security is a filing cabinet full of IOUs *kisskisshughug* from Treasury. Bring up that SCOTUS ruled ages ago that there are no property rights to Social Security and burn the witch!
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 23, 2015 01:07 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: President Prolapse at March 23, 2015 01:08 PM (ASn1R)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:08 PM (A98Xu)
Did he say what in particular he is PMSing about? If is Bibi getting under his skin that would make my day, hah.
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 01:08 PM (yRwC8)
How are you
gonna convince a 25 percent segment of the population of the AA's of
this when they can't find the resources to feed themselves?
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 01:08 PM (iVjJr)
I've been called a liar to my face for pointing out that is not true and that the only thing propping up Social Security is a filing cabinet full of IOUs *kisskisshughug* from Treasury. Bring up that SCOTUS ruled ages ago that there are no property rights to Social Security and burn the witch!
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But SS has been sold by both parties in the way people think it exists for so long - that it has become gospel. Once you start making it means tested - it starts to look different.
That's my theory anyway.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2015 01:09 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Seems Legit
Thou shalt not test the blog your God......Not on a Monday. Tests on Mondays are a dick move.
Posted by: Umpteenth Commandment at March 23, 2015 01:09 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 01:00 PM (qh617)
I know there is far too much waste, fraud and abuse, and absolutely nothing is done about it. In fact, I suspect it is a moneylaundering scheme for politicians too lazy to go to casinos on Indian reservations.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 01:09 PM (Y92Nd)
"The grievance industry will take your argument and demand blacks be given SS reparations, which of course the gope will just put on the national tab like everything else they ought to cut."
I would love to see everyone who wanted be bought out of the SS system.
Obama pissed away a trillion in shovel ready jobs that weren't there. I believe we could take the hit for the cost, relying on the resulting increase in economic activity.
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 01:09 PM (9ZZd+)
Pixy has saved my ass more than once because of that.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 01:10 PM (Ma5u/)
of El Jeffe's EOs. They don't make plans on income-generated revenue.
That's just their expected gravy.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 01:03 PM (Y92Nd)
What he said. And he did it without me getting banned.
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 23, 2015 01:10 PM (iVjJr)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2015 01:07 PM (2cS/G)
Except getting to hold court like pharaoh and order the half of the country he hates to build his pyramid.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 23, 2015 01:11 PM (FMbng)
account with their name on it and in that account is all of their Social
Security money. Also that account is just for them and no one else can
take money from it.
And it's generating interest just siting there, like bunnies or something.
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2015 01:11 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: irongrampa at March 23, 2015 01:04 PM (jeCnD)
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Same here. Learned to live modestly and pay off my debts. Credit card is paid in whole every month. Used my 401K to pay off my house. Everything else, including new cars, if I can't pay for it outright, I'm not buying it.
(This is usually the clarion call for Mooboy to make an appearance)
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 01:11 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: MSM, confuzzled at March 23, 2015 01:11 PM (yRwC8)
Just wondering what happened to those people.
Posted by: HH at March 23, 2015 01:12 PM (Ce4DF)
Because people honestly and truly believe there is some government bank account with their name on it and in that account is all of their Social Security money. Also that account is just for them and no one else can take money from it.
--
Exactly. I have had this argument numerous times. When I point out that FICA taxes and witholding come out at the same time from your paycheck, and go to the same general fund, "...so why don't you insist on getting 'your' income tax money back, too?..." argument, they usually become incomprehensibly angry.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2015 01:12 PM (2ePOO)
The only thing bucking up Social Security is my kids' future productivity.
My kids are idiots.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2015 01:13 PM (1xUj/)
account with their name on it and in that account is all of their Social
Security money. Also that account is just for them and no one else can
take money from it.
And it's generating interest just siting there, like bunnies or something.
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2015 01:11 PM (ZbV+0)
And if it had been... if that money had been invested in America... in the economy...
This would be a whole different discussion today...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 01:14 PM (qh617)
believe we could take the hit for the cost, relying on the resulting
increase in economic activity.
Do you have an estimate for what that would cost?
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2015 01:14 PM (ZbV+0)
In fairness, I'm sure the van he lives in, down by the river, is fully paid off.
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 23, 2015 01:15 PM (rwI+c)
Similar situation: Prop. 13 in CA, a constitutional amendment that capped the rate of increase of property taxes. The state is broke, and undoing Prop. 13 (which does generate some injustices, in truth) would free the Reds to kick property owners in the balls, as they always yearn to do, and use the money to buy more votes, which they also yearn to do.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 23, 2015 11:02 AM (oKE6c)
As I recall, Prop 13 is hated, Hated, HATED by CA leftist pinko cockholsters.
Right up until they realize that repeal would enable the State gov to Handi-Vac their wallet.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2015 01:15 PM (SpnVI)
The only thing bucking up Social Security is my kids' future productivity.
My kids are idiots.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2015 01:13 PM (1xUj/)
Ponzi schemes inevitably collapse, when they can no longer grow fast enough...
Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 01:15 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:16 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2015 01:14 PM (ZbV+0)
Not really. It would be interesting to find out.
Posted by: jwest at March 23, 2015 01:17 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:17 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2015 01:13 PM (1xUj/)
To be fair we don't think very highly of you either, old man.
Posted by: Bandersnatch's ingrate kids at March 23, 2015 01:17 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 01:17 PM (kff5f)
Washington gridlock is a feature, not a bug. Libs don't get that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch's ingrate kids at March 23, 2015 01:18 PM (yRwC8)
Right up until they realize that repeal would enable the State gov to Handi-Vac their wallet.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2015 01:15 PM
Same thing with Prop. 2 1/2 here in MA. The progs are constantly holding override votes, and usually lose. The moment they do, they punish the voters by cutting back on essential town services instead of cutting the waste form the budget. Nice elder services program/library/dump you got here...shame if somethin' wuz to happen to it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2015 01:19 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 01:19 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 01:19 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 23, 2015 01:19 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2015 01:19 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 23, 2015 01:15 PM (qh617)
------------------------------------------------
Every welfare program and payoff program is a Ponzi scheme. IMHO, the whole of the federal government as it exists now is a Ponzi scheme.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 01:19 PM (/HX7u)
They hate it as much if not more than Proposition 8.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 01:19 PM (Y92Nd)
Careful now, or Waldo is going to find YOU.
Posted by: HH at March 23, 2015 01:20 PM (Ce4DF)
In his defense, it does say "/cargo cult." It's not like he lit the grail-shaped lantern or anything...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2015 01:21 PM (h4vJk)
good, those arguments need to take place, we need more of them.
the reason that people are getting testy is that they don't feel like they are being heard.
the constant cry of "can't we have happy posts?!" makes me ill.
there is no "happy" under current conditions, let's change the conditions and then we can have some "happy"
Posted by: Shoey at March 23, 2015 01:21 PM (vA94g)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 01:21 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:21 PM (A98Xu)
Like the graceful Yeti, the new thread is there, then gone. And will be debated on whether it actually existed...
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 01:22 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 23, 2015 01:22 PM (LA7Cm)
Who wrote the piece Rush read a couple of minutes ago?
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 23, 2015 01:22 PM (Bl8Zy)
In his defense, it does say "/cargo cult." It's not like he lit the grail-shaped lantern or anything...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2015 01:21 PM (h4vJk
Fire in a theater
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 01:22 PM (vPh3W)
I said I was Cargo Culting.
It was right there in the comment. "/Cargo Cult."
We say "nood" and a new thread appears. Not my fault if the Gods of Cargo aren't listening.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 01:23 PM (kff5f)
What are we talking about?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 23, 2015 01:23 PM (F1jFR)
"As I recall, Prop 13 is hated, Hated, HATED by CA leftist pinko cockholsters."
They hate it as much if not more than Proposition 8.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 01:19 PM (Y92Nd)
Yup. And every time someone "important" argues for repeal, it goes nowhere because the limo leftists have NO intention of giving up their own money.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2015 01:23 PM (SpnVI)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:21 PM (A98Xu
Fun and downright embarrassing for Ba-Rock
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 01:23 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:23 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 01:22 PM (yRwC
-----------------------------------------
Schroedingers nood
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 01:23 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 01:22 PM
Fire in a theater?
Posted by: 3-yr-old Girl in New Hampshire at March 23, 2015 01:24 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:24 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Al Sharpton at March 23, 2015 01:24 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: People Corp at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (Ma5u/)
Posted by: PHONE at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (2ePOO)
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (h6Mpm)
Jerry "too much drugs" Brown.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:23 PM (A98Xu)
Being *thisclose* to the presidency and failing, it does something to you...and your chakras...switches a flip in your brain.
Posted by: Al Gore, totes not mad, bro at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (yRwC8)
Kill me now.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (rwI+c)
If you're reading the post, you're doing it wrong.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 01:26 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: People Corp at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (TzeLs)
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I'm with you.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:26 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Carlos Danger at March 23, 2015 01:26 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 01:26 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 01:26 PM (Y92Nd)
Always wondered about that. If indeed there was a fire, wouldn't you shout it out?
Was there some sort of epidemic of 'fake' calling of fire that happened back in the past?
Something I've always been curious about.
Posted by: HH at March 23, 2015 01:26 PM (Ce4DF)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 01:26 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (rwI+c)
Which is, of course, a type of weasel.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: rickb223
And after the spanking...
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 23, 2015 01:26 PM (/Ho8c)
And then . . .
The ICE CREAM!
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (h6Mpm)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:25 PM (A98Xu)
---------------------------------------------------
Probably. And fuck killing you. We demand you suffer with the rest of us.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (R8hU8)
Think about the exploding heads in the DNC base- it'd look like a double feature of "Scanners" and the Zapruder film. They could never make up those numbers.
Posted by: Fringe at March 23, 2015 01:28 PM (oWl4T)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (R8hU
Hobo Brownnose V6.9
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 01:28 PM (h6Mpm)
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 23, 2015 01:28 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Eromero at March 23, 2015 01:28 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Al Gore
I will realign you chakras for a small fee of $492 million dollars.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 01:28 PM (Ma5u/)
The ICE CREAM!
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM
Priorities, man, priorities...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2015 01:28 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 23, 2015 01:29 PM (rwI+c)
TOR
Posted by: wrg500 at March 23, 2015 01:29 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (R8hU
You want ampersands, sonny?
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2015 01:29 PM (h6Mpm)
Posted by: Soona
Well said. I was sooooo happy to see the so-con bullshit come roaring back. last week we learned that the realists sold us out yet again, and we're back to so-cons being the scourge of the party.
Posted by: Umpteenth Commandment at March 23, 2015 01:29 PM (Spluw)
I got thrown out of the Union Square Regal Theater during Eureka for bringing a kitten, and I puled the fire alarm so everyone had to evacuate all the theaters.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 01:29 PM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (R8hU
I use Pale Moon (which is Firefox with a side helping of "F*ck Mozilla). Then I add NoScript, and GreaseMonkey (and then the IgnoreUser GreaseMonkey script).
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 23, 2015 01:29 PM (kff5f)
My kids are idiots.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2015 01:13 PM (1xUj/)
Gaze upon my life choices and be awed!
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 23, 2015 01:30 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Barky at March 23, 2015 01:30 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: 3-yr-old Girl in New Hampshire at March 23, 2015 01:24
You owe me a keyboard little girl.
Posted by: olddog in mo at March 23, 2015 01:31 PM (2vRRd)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 23, 2015 01:31 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane
Most people eat raisinettes.
Posted by: Umpteenth Commandment at March 23, 2015 01:31 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 01:31 PM (Y92Nd)
Gaze upon my life choices and be awed!
Posted by: alexthechick - Jazz Hands Gojira at March 23, 2015 01:30 PM (mf5HN
Hell, that doesn't even make the Top 10 List for you
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 01:32 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (R8hU
anything but IE, IE barely works anymore, practically unusable.
Posted by: Shoey at March 23, 2015 01:32 PM (vA94g)
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 23, 2015 01:32 PM (iQIUe)
Also, have fun hijacking this hashtag today and tick off the left: #TedCruzCampaignSlogans
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 01:32 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Barky at March 23, 2015 01:30 PM (F2IAQ)
Epic also works well and keeps the cookies at bay. Just sayin'
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 23, 2015 01:32 PM (BZAd3)
What is GreaseMonkey?
I also use Pale Moon and NoScript.
Posted by: Umpteenth Commandment at March 23, 2015 01:32 PM (Spluw)
Frank Conniff*
Ted Cruz is a deranged sociopath. So he needs to figure out a way to distinguish himself from the other GOP candidates.
*TV's "Frank" of MST3K
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 23, 2015 01:33 PM (kdS6q)
commas, comas aren't they the same?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 01:33 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2015 01:33 PM (2cS/G)
Probably. And fuck killing you. We demand you suffer with the rest of us.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2015 01:27 PM (/HX7u)
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hahahaha-----ass!
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:33 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: HH at March 23, 2015 01:33 PM (Ce4DF)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 01:33 PM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: comrade willow at March 23, 2015 01:33 PM (nqBYe)
Immature and creepy as ever...
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 23, 2015 01:32 PM (iQIUe)
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What is it about those freaks? It's always some weird bullshit.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 23, 2015 01:34 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: HH at March 23, 2015 01:35 PM (Ce4DF)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2015 01:35 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2015 01:33 PM (vPh3W)
Girlfriend in a comma, I know, I know it's serious.
Posted by: Morrissey at March 23, 2015 01:35 PM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 23, 2015 01:35 PM (F1jFR)
Posted by: LizLem at March 23, 2015 01:36 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 23, 2015 01:32 PM (iQIUe)
RAND PAUL!!
Posted by: RAND PAULL!! at March 23, 2015 01:36 PM (/HX7u)
#KeepCalm&Cruz2Victory!
#KeepCalm&CruzOn
#Cruz/Perry2016
#Cruz/Netanyahu 2016
#Cruz/DarrylDixon 2016
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2015 01:36 PM (Ma5u/)
Ted Cruz will take away your Fun Camp.
Posted by: Hillarrhoids at March 23, 2015 01:38 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb
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I should add that I also use NoScript under Pale Moon.
Epic works fine..., in fact I am using it now.
Posted by: Barky at March 23, 2015 01:39 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 23, 2015 01:40 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 23, 2015 02:47 PM (Y92Nd)
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Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)