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Is This Why Hillary Clinton Deleted 32,000 Emails?
Did you know this? I wondered, but didn't know. So, when Hillary leaves office, she is now in possession of a mountain of classified information, all on her servers.
She of course is not allowed to keep that information. Only the government and its currently serving operatives are permitted to possess classified information. But she's in this odd situation, odder than most, because she insisted on transacting all business on her private servers, rather than the government's. So while the typical Secretary of State would only have to search and delete a few of his private emails to bring himself into compliance with the law, Hillary Clinton, drunk on power and vodka but mostly vodka, now finds herself with servers stuffed with thousands of emails recapitulating classified information. That's illegal. And furthermore, it was illegal to have kept these emails for any period of time past her official tour of duty. Actually, her little Paranoid Gambit may have put her in the position of an impossible dilemma: On one hand, she is required to save all correspondence. (For a normal person, this is no problem, as the correspondence is on the government's servers, and is saved automatically). But another law says she can't keep all those emails, because they discuss classified information! The way out of this dilemma is to recognize it, and to turn over the servers to State (thereby being in compliance with both laws), but for Hillary Clinton and her desire to hide evidence, that's an impossibility. So... perhaps at that point she decides to have a Deleting Party for six months. Anyway, that's all my supposition, but what is not supposition is that it is actually a crime to possess classified information without authorization (Petraeus just pled guilty to this crime) and that Hillary signed an exit statement certifying she had no classified information in her possession. As you read this, remember her strange, convoluted, and lawyered-up wording: There is no classified information. That sentence is in present tense, and isn't even grammatical. It's literally senseless. Why did she say this senseless thing so senselessly? Actually... The writer, Shannen Coffin, points out a more likely scenario: That Clinton is now "returning" these documents (and references to documents; referencing classified information makes the reference classified) to State to make herself, allegedly, in compliance with the law. But she wouldn't be. Turning over documents two years after leaving office, and only after being pressed on it by State Department officials and Congressional subpoenas, is not what the law has in mind.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: zombie at March 12, 2015 02:06 PM (K4YiS)
Posted by: zombie at March 12, 2015 02:07 PM (K4YiS)
Unfortunately, that is in the incompetent yet skulduggerous hands of the Obama administration, such as AG Holder and Sec. Kerry, so I expect them to fail on this.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 02:07 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2015 02:08 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: willy at March 12, 2015 02:08 PM (ersJc)
No -- she guzzles Elderberry Flower liqueur (St. Germain) like it's Geritol on Tap.
Posted by: zombie at March 12, 2015 02:09 PM (K4YiS)
After all, she and TGF only ever learn about anything from watching the news. Duh!
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2015 02:09 PM (AEQXb)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 02:09 PM (hLRSq)
Classified information is not nearly important as the status of my quivering itchy quim, and the aftermath of sitting for hours being grilled by inconsiderate republican assholes about subjects they know nothing about.
Posted by: Sir Edmund Hillary Rodham Clinton at March 12, 2015 02:09 PM (P330y)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:09 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: MJN1957 at March 12, 2015 02:10 PM (r0S86)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:10 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 12, 2015 02:10 PM (eytER)
Clinic think President Obama hope that no gays or lesbians will be hurt or attacked in that Fergistien, Alabama place. That would be a tradjety and we call on everyone to notify their local representertive to ensure this.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 12, 2015 02:10 PM (Sd++4)
Posted by: Benedict Arnold CEO at March 12, 2015 02:10 PM (n5fTN)
That sentence is in present tense, and isn't even grammatical. It's literally senseless.
Why did she say this senseless thing so senselessly?
Depends on how classified the meaning of "classified" is classified.
Posted by: zombie at March 12, 2015 02:10 PM (K4YiS)
I hate to tell you this but this scandal is already out of the LIV news cycle.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 02:10 PM (Pww3C)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:11 PM (bdqzU)
Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at March 12, 2015 02:11 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2015 02:11 PM (W3hdj)
Do they not realize that China has its own version of NSA...Russia does too...France...North Korea...hell, even South Friggin' Africa. Did she really think her servers were secure?
What a fool!
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2015 02:11 PM (08Znv)
Her lawyers assume that once deleted the data is gone forever from her server, and that is probably wrong.
Posted by: MTF, Bring On The Art. 5 Convention! at March 12, 2015 02:11 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: Get the f@cking server at March 12, 2015 02:12 PM (zhhGF)
In a Nation of Laws, not of Men, it would be the part where the police showed up wherever she was and arrested her for federal crimes.
Unfortunately, we don't live in that nation.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:12 PM (kff5f)
This is why they handily set up your own government work email for you! Then you don't have to worry about these things.
Unless you say screw the law and set up your own server out of your house with classified information, etc..etc..
Posted by: Lea at March 12, 2015 02:12 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: MJN1957
If Whte Men did that, they be charged with attempted assassination, treason, etc.
If Code Pink does it, they speak Truth to Power and also Obama awards them by attending more fundraisers with Jodie Evans.
Posted by: zombie at March 12, 2015 02:12 PM (K4YiS)
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (aA2hG)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (u8GsB)
Buddy provided great security for my server until he was poisoned by a very uncaring republican, or maybe he was hit by a car?
Posted by: BillyBob the Molester at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (P330y)
I'd think that if the server is not owned by Hillary, but some entity such as the Clinton foundation, that this would be a major issue - that she essentially distributed classified documents to an outside entity.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (bdqzU)
Posted by: Zombie Nixon at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (AEQXb)
Posted by: Hillary at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (2i576)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: OCBill at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (Mj+FA)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: larry at March 12, 2015 02:14 PM (S6e54)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:14 PM (kff5f)
Even more, she can't keep them because they are not hers to keep.
Now, that doesn't mean that she isn't going to try to or that the server may suffer an accident from an unprecedented and otherwise never-happened power surge flash-frying the insides; it just means that those e-mails are not her property.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 02:14 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (OQjlM)
And would anyone be surprised if Hillary had avoided signing such a doc?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (bdqzU)
Because she could?
Face it, Ace. The people who might have any control/jurisdiction over Shrillery don't care what she say, and those who do care (like us) don't matter.
She isn't even President (yet) but she's Too Big to Impeach!
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (P8YHq)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 12, 2015 02:13 PM (GGCsk)
Yup I'll get right on that.
*giggles*
Posted by: Eric Holder at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (AEQXb)
Posted by: Hillary at Planet Witless at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (ODxAs)
If she signed it and lied, that is a felony
If she never signed it, it's a violation of policy BUT not law
I bet she never signed it
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Chupacabras at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (V40IZ)
I used to peek at MILF when Hill was away, and she probably deleted all of those clicks, and also the ones where I searched for Big Butts, Blow Jobs, and teenage sex.
Posted by: BillyBob the Molester at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (P330y)
Posted by: The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Willy at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (ersJc)
Posted by: Marcus T
Lying is such harsh, perjorative term. What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine, too. I am a loyal government servant, and the government is my servant also.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (RFeQD)
You would be amazed what the smallest person can accomplish with determination, brazen effrontery, and a cutting torch.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (hLRSq)
LIV's have moved on.
Their takeaway "They all do it. Who cares if hillary emailed her daughter? republicans are stupid. lolz. Also, they're traitors."
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (AkOaV)
They simultaneously exist and do not exist, and simultaneously posses the quantum states of "classified" and "unclassified."
But if you break the symmetry by opening the server and looking at them, the function collapses and they become LOOK OVER THERE SQUIRREL!!
Posted by: zombie at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (K4YiS)
Im telling you ..... ask the Russians.
Im sure the Russians made copies of all of Hillary's emails.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (NaV4z)
It really isn't more complicated than that.
And to the extent that people discuss more than that, her PR goons and cheerleaders are succeeding.
Posted by: blaster at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (J2Gfi)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 02:14 PM (hLRSq)
Hey! It's been known to happen!
Posted by: Lois Lerner at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (AEQXb)
I suspect it is the email with regards to financial transactions and previous positions (Fast & Furious, Benghazi) that concern her more. I believe the classified issue may be a red herring, anyone (or organization that permitted it) who forwarded classified traffic to that UNCLASS address should be prosecuted. Now, in her position, it is likely that an aggregate amount unclassified information could constitute a classified data store; and any individual statement generated by someone in her position could have implications that could have security concerns.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (H2Opj)
If it wasn't classified, it wouldn't need to be redacted.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (5ic5a)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (hLRSq)
So you're saying we should send AtC after the server?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (kff5f)
C'mon, you knew that.
If this bitch gets elected president, I'm going to be pissed, not at her, but at the moron American people.
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (KzWjU)
Posted by: dogfish at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (1vYi0)
Posted by: phreshone at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (LoIJo)
Posted by: MrScribbler
That's a lie! I am not too big for my peach pants suit!
'hic'
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (RFeQD)
Whether or not she has them on a thumb drive in a safety deposit box in kansas city or whatever, who knows?
Either way, there is nothing provable here.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (AkOaV)
Something strange going on with the server...
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (bdqzU)
Posted by Ace at 02:05 PM Comments
Because she is a lying liar who lies constantly. Duh.
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (ZDJwC)
Posted by: Hillary! at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (zqzYV)
McConnell, Graham, r a disgrace to our form of govt.
McConnell in particular, who places his diseased need 4 personal power above all else.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Hillku at March 12, 2015 02:18 PM (c+Y7q)
Weaselly lawyer-types using weasel words = shitweasels.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 12, 2015 02:18 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (hLRSq)
You're going to give ATC a cutting torch? Have you thought this through?
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2015 02:18 PM (AEQXb)
Posted by: Hillary! at March 12, 2015 02:18 PM (i0wGQ)
Posted by: fixerupper
And they have Barry's grades, too.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... waiting for spring at March 12, 2015 02:18 PM (RFeQD)
She's blackmail bait.
Posted by: Sardiver at March 12, 2015 02:19 PM (nMXlE)
Posted by: BeBe Rebozo at March 12, 2015 02:19 PM (LoIJo)
I happen to think just about every email sent by a US Secretary of State is classified until a full govt review.
Hillary thinks no emails are classified. There is no classified information. Can't be, doesn't exist, ever, nope.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 12, 2015 02:19 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 02:19 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: dogfish at March 12, 2015 02:19 PM (1vYi0)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 12, 2015 02:19 PM (LoIJo)
Something strange going on with the server...
Posted by: Lizzy
It's in Bill's "ex-president's office" in Manhatten. But he never sends e-mails.
Uh-huh.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... waiting for spring at March 12, 2015 02:19 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 02:20 PM (ZDJwC)
The server should have been seized.
She straight up violated the terms of her sensitive information agreement by even using that private server.
Posted by: name at March 12, 2015 02:20 PM (TTSNB)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:20 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... waiting for spring at March 12, 2015 02:18 PM
It'd almost be worth making friends with the Rooskies, wouldn't it?
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2015 02:20 PM (P8YHq)
Bill's office is in Harlem. Remember that whole scandal?
Is the Clinton Foundation's offices in Manhattan?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (bdqzU)
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Bozo Rebozo at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: dogfish at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (1vYi0)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:16 PM (kff5f)
Not my original thought, but that sounds like a plan to me.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (hLRSq)
Yeah, I have a hard time believing she was running the sever in her basement. Just because of power outages and all of that, and being a residential home with comcast cable (which is not the most reliable in the world, especially during winter, with storms). That would mean her email regularly went out when power or cable went down.
But wherever the server was, or whoever hosted it... and why they have forwarding IP addresses and companies in the caymen islands and all the other bullshit... who knows? Honestly, who cares?
This is what democrats do. And they get away with it.
So why get all worked up?
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (AkOaV)
Uh-huh.
----
He doesnt.
But do you know how much bandwidth just browsing for plumper porn takes up??
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (NaV4z)
QUESTION: Were you ever--were you ever specifically briefed on the security implications of using--using your own email server and using your personal address to email with the president?
to which she "answers":
CLINTON: I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.
Well, that's not responsive to the question. It looks like she really wanted to make that statement about classified material: this was very close to the end of the press conference; not much time left to say what she had to say. So, she just slipped it in there.
Posted by: m at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (WIUGG)
Hillary is into the hootch.
Makers Mark is her preferred poison.
It's about the only thing I agree with her on.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (7ObY1)
Bring it.
Posted by: Hillary at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (7RXcs)
Posted by: Sandy Berger at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (lmdHn)
Posted by: Vladimir Putin at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (ZDJwC)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: dogfish at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (1vYi0)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: AllenG
Look closer. Cover up the hair with your finger if you have to.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (XvsbD)
Posted by: torabora at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (e2zEX)
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (SCcgT)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:21 PM (bdqzU)
Yeah, I think it's in the time life building.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:23 PM (AkOaV)
There is one other possibility to think about which could easily be true .... She was only a figurehead and never ever conducted any State Dept business other than traveling around the globe (and asking for bribe money).
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 12, 2015 02:23 PM (ODxAs)
And by her own account, she had campaign staffers go through and delete all e-mails that were not "personal" in nature.
A question that she is not going to be in any hurry to answer:
How many of those staffers had been vetted by the government and held security clearances sufficient to be reading message traffic at the SECSTATE level?
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2015 02:23 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at March 12, 2015 02:23 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:23 PM (XUKZU)
after being pressed on it by State Department officials and
Congressional subpoenas, is not what the law has in mind."
The law is whatever these fvckers "have in mind" at any given point in time.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 12, 2015 02:23 PM (wtvvX)
Needless to say, important stuff gets communicated back and forth within and between state departments, foreign secretaries, etc.
I think there are big shoes that aren't dropping here yet. Most likely involving Iran, Isis, the Egypt and Libyan eruptions, Russia in the Ukraine and elsewhere, and countless other matters involving the Chinese and Norks.
What things? We may never know, but it's possible... just possible, that the inertia being demonstrated by this current administration is not just due to incompetence. Well, it is, but I'm thinking part of that incompetence is foreign governments in possession of American secrets.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 02:23 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2015 02:24 PM (08Znv)
ACE: "There is no classified information.
That sentence is in present tense, and isn't even grammatical. It's literally senseless. Why did she say this senseless thing so senselessly?"
_____________________
Because Hillary is speaking the TRUTH: There is in fact NO classified information - because EVERYTHING has been deleted from her private server(s)
Posted by: alwyr at March 12, 2015 02:24 PM (V0j3u)
Posted by: Nicholas Tesla at March 12, 2015 02:24 PM (LoIJo)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:24 PM (H2Opj)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:24 PM (H2Opj)
Posted by: LIV at March 12, 2015 02:25 PM (JVEmw)
Posted by: Clever Hans at March 12, 2015 02:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 02:25 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Eric Holder at March 12, 2015 02:25 PM (LoIJo)
Mailbox - Clinton, Hillary
Inbox [426]
Drafts [13]
Deleted Items [42,492]
Junk E-Mail [42]
"See? They're all deleted! Nothing to see here!"
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 12, 2015 02:25 PM (UhRGU)
Posted by: Xander Crews at March 12, 2015 02:25 PM (G30fw)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2015 02:22 PM (XvsbD)
Oh, geez.
How sad is it when a woman can be made more attractive by being made to look more like Dick Nixon?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:25 PM (kff5f)
Just a reminder again here: there is a whistleblower at State who is alleging that Cheryl Mills ordered and supervised a late night shredding party after Benghazi.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2015 02:25 PM (noWW6)
Thirty two thousand emails to sneer....
Take Hillary down, pass her... wait,
Thirty two thousand emails to sneer at you all
Posted by: Dr. Gorgonzola at March 12, 2015 02:26 PM (e0JlW)
Posted by: dogfish at March 12, 2015 02:26 PM (1vYi0)
They weren't deleted. At least not until they were copied
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 02:26 PM (zOTsN)
electromagnet that will erase every piece of data within a 100 mile
radius of Chappaqua
Posted by: Nicholas Tesla at March 12, 2015 02:24 PM (LoIJo)<<<
Yeah, bitch! Magnets!
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at March 12, 2015 02:26 PM (c+Y7q)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 02:26 PM (7ObY1)
Heh.
Or can you see her saying something like. "We called a company to cart away and destroy theserver. They said that they would ensure that no personal info would be accessed. See, it's right there in their yellow pages ad."
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:27 PM (bdqzU)
Posted by: Allen Turing at March 12, 2015 02:27 PM (LoIJo)
You may be more right than you know. Twenty years from now they may be writing a lot of books on this. Just how bad is it? Who knows, but as someone said earlier in the thread, she is Blackmail Bait. But who else is as well?
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2015 02:27 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2015 02:27 PM (NaV4z)
Today....today....you find yourselves equals. For you are all equally blessed. For I have the pride, the privilege, nay, the pleasure....of introducing to you a Secretary of State sired by Secretaries of State.
A Secretary who can trace her lineage back beyond Madison. I first met her atop a mountain near Jerusalem, praying to God, asking His forgiveness for the Embassedors blood spilt by her incompetance.
Next, she amazed me further still in Italy when she saved a fatherless beauty from the would-be ravishings of her dreadful Husband.
In Greece, she spent a year in silence....just to better understand the sound...of a whisper.
And so, without further gilding the lily and with no more ado, I give to you, the Seeker of Serenity, the Protector of compromised Security, the Enforcer of our Lord God, the one, the only, SIR Edmund Rhodman Hillary Clinton!!!!!
Posted by: Kreplach at March 12, 2015 02:28 PM (iJMID)
Yeah, I'm waiting for one of her staff or secret service guys to write a book in, say, 20, years.
"So the funniest thing... When that Hillary email thing broke, a big shred it truck and a mobile MRI unit showed up the house. I saw bill and Chelsea lugging a large storage array to get MRIed, and Hillary and Huma were running out to the shred it truck with boxes and boxes full of papers."
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:28 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 12, 2015 02:28 PM (UhRGU)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 02:28 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 02:28 PM (EgOr3)
Also... whoever put the Shrillary picture in the sidebar- thank you for using one from before she started going to the Helen Thomas school of personal appearance.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:14 PM (kff5f)
Did you notice that it's a Hillary/Nixon photoshop mashup?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2015 02:28 PM (SpnVI)
Posted by: Norman! COORDINATE! at March 12, 2015 02:29 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Sunkmanitu Tanka Owaci at March 12, 2015 02:29 PM (b7D4y)
Heh.
Classic scene. I love the way Walt and Mike just sat there plotting while Jesse keeps saying "yo, what about a magnet? Yo, Missa White, how about a magnet..."
And they're all completely ignoring him and shit.
Then when it actually worked...YO! MAGNETS, BITCHEZ!
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 02:29 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at March 12, 2015 02:29 PM (LoIJo)
There's an app for that.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 12, 2015 02:29 PM (UhRGU)
The stuff that is gone will be her emails with foreign and private entities. Except for the copies they have on the other end -- with which they own her wrinkled ass.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:29 PM (H2Opj)
Posted by: mallfly at March 12, 2015 02:29 PM (bJm7W)
I wonder if she is related to Scankles.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 02:29 PM (wlDny)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 12, 2015 02:28 PM (UhRGU)
---
.... All would be forgiven if THAT were to come to pass....
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2015 02:30 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at March 12, 2015 02:30 PM (LoIJo)
Who would have to blackmail her? She's ideological buddies with Putin, supports the leadership of the Religion of Terror, has had many reported financial donations from Beijing.
I suspect that the purpose of her controlling the servers was to retain any incriminating evidence to use against others.
After all, those 100,000 files that mysteriously showed up in the Residence are almost 2 decades old now. She needs some fresh info.
Posted by: Mark E at March 12, 2015 02:31 PM (i4eXO)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2015 02:27 PM (08Znv)
I wonder if the events of 2009-2012 around the world were affected by the ability to hack Hillary's state dept emails. If the actors in those events (green revolution, arab spring, Benghazi, etc) knew how we would respond, it would make life easy for them.
Posted by: Vladimir Putin at March 12, 2015 02:31 PM (ZDJwC)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 12, 2015 02:28 PM (UhRGU)
It wouldn't be ironic, but it would be orgasmic, and lead to a Schadenboner that would reach across the room. Hell, I'd even forgive the son of a bitch for everything else if he did that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 02:31 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Bitch McConnell at March 12, 2015 02:31 PM (lG2E3)
Republicans will not do anything
WE.HAVE.NO.OPPOSITION.PARTY
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 02:31 PM (wlDny)
You may be more right than you know. Twenty years from now they may
be writing a lot of books on this. Just how bad is it? Who knows, but
as someone said earlier in the thread, she is Blackmail Bait. But who
else is as well?
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2015 02:27 PM (08Znv)
It's almost impossible for there NOT to be this sort of thing going on, isn't it?
It's also going to be true, no matter what else Hillery would have been doing while at State, she was always and also running for President. Which means the secrets she had that are now out there include almost everything she would want kept quiet about her plans, and her efforts to continue covering any and all shenanigans from her 8 years as First Lady, and... however many years she was First Squaw in Arkansas.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 02:31 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: John Boehner at March 12, 2015 02:31 PM (LoIJo)
Posted by: mallfly at March 12, 2015 02:32 PM (bJm7W)
Or to use agains Obama as a last ditch,mutually assured destruction move.
"Oh, you think I'm going down, buddy? Get a load of these emails I've saved discussingBenghasi w/you and Jarrett!!!"
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:32 PM (bdqzU)
"When you and your side are the only ones chattering about your opponent's scandal, it's over."
-- Shih Tzu
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 02:32 PM (Pww3C)
Posted by: TV Guide at March 12, 2015 02:32 PM (lmdHn)
This seems a bit harsh. How about "You have no functioning opposition party?" Prole.
Posted by: Bitch McConnell at March 12, 2015 02:33 PM (lG2E3)
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 02:33 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 12, 2015 02:33 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2015 02:33 PM (h4vJk)
be writing a lot of books on this.
The books will come a lot sooner than that, if ever. Twenty years from now they won't be topical.
What WILL be topical will be Communist penetration of the MSM and the Democrat Party, and its manipulation of the electoral process. Think VENONA decrypts, or Mitrokhin archive.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 02:33 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Bigby's Chokehold at March 12, 2015 02:33 PM (3ZtZW)
....moving around 35,000 emails digitally on a server is childsplay compare to trying to hide 11 legal sized carboard storage boxes that held the Rose Lawfirms Billing Records.
Posted by: Hillary!!! at March 12, 2015 02:34 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: The Beast with two cankles at March 12, 2015 02:34 PM (1sVzz)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The government is known for excellent email retention policies.
That's the ticket.
Posted by: Lois Lerner at March 12, 2015 02:34 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:34 PM (H2Opj)
Hillary has always been about getting and keeping classified info under her control...
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:34 PM (bdqzU)
In extreme cases, if the penis suffers from severe vascular disease, the priapism can result in penile gangrene.[12]
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 02:34 PM (ZDJwC)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 12, 2015 02:35 PM (1BQGO)
-- Shih Tzu
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 02:32 PM (Pww3C)
That's true. Let them keep talking, this will all blow over in no time.
Posted by: Nixon in 1972 at March 12, 2015 02:35 PM (TOk1P)
I'd be offended too. If I were an ape.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:35 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 12, 2015 02:28 PM (UhRGU)
What would be ironic is if at some point she needed some of her emails to extricate herself from some very deep sewage, and she'd deleted them all. Now THAT would be ironic. If you listened carefully, you could hear God chuckle at that one.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 02:35 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:36 PM (H2Opj)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2015 02:36 PM (IXrOn)
She is asked why she deleted them and she said she didn't see any reason to keep them
Didn't see any reason to keep them
So she gave them to someone else to hold?
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 02:36 PM (zOTsN)
And you can bet the DOJ, whoever it is in charge over there right now, isn't going to indict Hillary Clinton, hero of the left.
At very most, we can hope she will be deemed un suitable and they will get another miscreant to run in her place.
Honestly she is the gift that keeps giving, a Hillary run would be one scandal after another. So I'm not sure I want them to replace her.
Posted by: petunia at March 12, 2015 02:36 PM (cu2hv)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 12, 2015 02:36 PM (zauWW)
There are probably a dozen Phd thesis' begging to be written for up and coming Political Scientists and Intelligence Analysts. These would analyze the logic or illogic, of American actions in foreign events.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2015 02:36 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2015 02:36 PM (W3hdj)
"Sure I want the public to hear all the tapes. Out of hours and hours, we just deleted 18 minutes of personal talk."
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2015 02:36 PM (9ZZd+)
Power, control, and money.
They've gotten where they are on Other People's Secrets.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 12, 2015 02:37 PM (MMC8r)
If she had a "deleting party" and wasn't careful, those emails she received would be gone.
Which would be evidence that she did have a deleting party.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 12, 2015 02:37 PM (b4b5c)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at March 12, 2015 02:37 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Bigby's Chokehold at March 12, 2015 02:37 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 02:37 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Hillary! at March 12, 2015 02:18 PM (i0wG
Oh hellz no! I avoided all eye contact and everything!
Posted by: The Law at March 12, 2015 02:37 PM (XV4jC)
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 12, 2015 02:37 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:38 PM (H2Opj)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 02:38 PM (5ic5a)
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at March 12, 2015 02:38 PM (u8Yax)
Posted by: Fred Rogers at March 12, 2015 02:38 PM (LoIJo)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 02:37 PM (sWgE+)
----
Be nice if somebody fed those into a OCR scanner.....
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2015 02:38 PM (NaV4z)
Funny how that works. Republican administrations don't prosecute prior Democrat administration officials for actual criminal behavior, because Democrats threaten to prosecute Republican administration officials for *non-criminal* behavior.
Of course, this where we get back to, "if we had a functioning opposition party..."
I might as well wish to win the lottery. In fact, winning the lottery is more likely than Boehner and McConnel growing a pair.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:39 PM (kff5f)
Also that she kept requesting authorization to use an iphone and ipad which requests were denied six times. But but but she only had one phone! As a source in the article said, everyone assumed she went ahead and used the ipad anyway Because Clinton.
Lulz national security.
I joked on the podcast (ahem) about Hillary's email being lolsos but yeah. Yeah that's not so funny.
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 02:39 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: mallfly at March 12, 2015 02:39 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Bitch McConnell at March 12, 2015 02:39 PM (lG2E3)
It is flat out illegal to store classified material on a private server.
She was not the controlling authority for that information.... which was in email, on the server, probably at a company acting as a mid tier for her mail...
AND still on back up tapes...
It does not matter if she is in office, or not... it is the mishandling of classified, or SENSITIVE, material.
And if you don't believe me??? go ask David Patraeus...
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 02:39 PM (qh617)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:35 PM (kff5f)
_______________________
Michelle seems to have something amiss with her lower jaw. It juts forward and looks misaligned. Where is that dentist who sometimes comments here? Is there a surgery or some other procedure that could fix that? IIRC, Carol Burnett once had a similar issue, and she had surgery to correct it.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2015 02:39 PM (lmdHn)
No one in DC is going to go after her too hard on this one.
Because they all illegally conduct government business (at least the shadier stuff) on private emails.
Guaranteed if someone was able to subpoena all email addresses of everyone in DC, they'd find that every single one of them has at least one (actually) private email address, at least one "private" email address (for sketchy stuff), then a public email address that they only use for the mundane day to day stuff.
So no one can throw too many rocks from their glass houses on this one just in case they get caught at some point in the future.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:40 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: mallfly at March 12, 2015 02:40 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Jean
it doesn't follow, unless you want to blackmail the bat. I understood that Monica hung on to it to prove that she and he did indeed did the deed.
Posted by: Moron with crayons at March 12, 2015 02:40 PM (b7GF2)
They are actually going all-in on this false-flag theory regarding the Ferguson police shootings.
Site after site after site is using SCIENCE! to "prove" the cops were shot by fellow cops.
It's extra funneh when Lefties start getting all SCIENCE!-y about guns.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (KETbL)
We're finally on our own.
This winter I hear the drumming.
Two shot in Fergusooon.
Got to get down to it.
SJWs are gunning us down.
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew them
And found them dead on the ground.
How can you run when you know?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (XUKZU)
Hildebeast has to quit the campaign. She really has no choice. If she runs, she'll likely be elected and then, just as likely, impeached.
Can you imagine. Two members in the same family; both loved and hated by roughly half of the population; both criminals and both in the same club of three - count ém - three presidents to be impeached. In Hillary's case, she would likely be in an exclusive club of one - the only president to be not only impeached, but convicted.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: mallfly at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Bigby's Chokehold at March 12, 2015 02:42 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 12, 2015 02:42 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 02:42 PM (zOTsN)
VERNONA. I was thinking ULTRA and JN25.
What people need to understand is this isn't battle winning intelligence. It is WAR winning intelligence.
I've been around Intel guys a long time. It is almost inconceivable, as in Vizzini inconceivable, that that server wasn't penetrated...and not in a good way.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2015 02:42 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (tf9Ne)
______________________
That would have been smart, and Hillary's gang is not smart.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (lmdHn)
You know her emails will indict obama, holder, and co. exposing their bogus accounts. I bet there was tit for tat on this.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (IXrOn)
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Then when the real shooters are arrested they'll go all Rosenbergs. Oh, they couldn't done. A swell bunch of guys like them?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (XUKZU)
They were probably read them in real time.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (KETbL)
No. They're both thugs, only the Dems are the more thuggish. So Republicans have to be thugs against those weaker than them (Conservative voters).
If she runs, she'll likely be elected and then, just as likely, impeached.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (BZAd3)
I'll have what you're having.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (KETbL)
It's a pretty sweet deal, but sometimes I get tired of being the bottom.
Posted by: John Boner in Assless Chaps at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (lG2E3)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:38 PM (H2Opj)
I sure as hell would!
Because Hillary would have no problem blaming an "overzealous staffer" if we some day found an email on the recipient side (which I'm sure exists all over DC) that shows Hillary conducting official business from her personal email, while Hillarys paper copies do not show that email.
"Oh, it was this nice girl who was interning for me. She must have reached over to answer the phone, and he foot accidentally hit the switch for the electromagnetic science project bill has in the basement, and oh golly gee. Oops!"
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2015 02:39 PM (lmdHn)
Yes. Orthognathic surgery. I'm not a dentist nor do I frequent Holiday Inn Expresses, but that's what it's called.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (2Ojst)
Competition Sensitive, other Confidential emails (personnel matters), etc. all are illegal to mishandle. While there are institutional safeguards in place between the classified systems and the commercial internet - there are less likely to be controls on other traffic.
If Guccifier had been smart, he would have used the heads up on major contract awards to score big on the market.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:44 PM (H2Opj)
206 Dems and Republicans have a non aggression pact.
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (KETbL)
It's a pretty sweet deal, but sometimes I get tired of being the bottom.
Posted by: John Boner in Assless Chaps at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (lG2E3)
But you've gotten so good at just laying there.
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 02:44 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2015 02:44 PM (kivUY)
It is used in English in fashion - listed in Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary, 11th Edition - , so even in a different context it is grokable.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2015 02:44 PM (XvsbD)
Posted by: mallfly at March 12, 2015 02:41 PM (bJm7W)
I'd be fine with Mark Levin as AG.
There. I said it.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at March 12, 2015 02:45 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2015 02:45 PM (KETbL)
Ah, good catch!
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:45 PM (bdqzU)
Yeah I know her rightful place in history. I get that.
But she's not a young woman and I'm sure she's physically older than her health.
I'm convinced she's in poor health and possibly a piss tank.
She's also really bad at this politics thing. She sucks.
She's also going on about being a gramma.
I get why she's doing this. But I don't get.
She's clearly different than normal people. Almost seems psychotic.
Just my two cents worth.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 12, 2015 02:45 PM (lW9iS)
And he can "consult" with Landmark Legal "on the side."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:45 PM (kff5f)
don't need rules. I don't have to follow any stinking rules, you
god-damned cabron and chinga to madre.
Posted by: Hillary La Bandidta at March 12, 2015 02:46 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 02:46 PM (evdj2)
I'd be offended too. If I were an ape.
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It's that prehensile tail that does it.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:46 PM (XUKZU)
Their address has been published, along with pictures of their house.
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 02:46 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2015 02:45 PM (KETbL)
haha
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2015 02:47 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Northernlurker
Most people willing to do this are wrecks that have convoinced themselves that they can and should do this.
Posted by: Moron with crayons at March 12, 2015 02:47 PM (b7GF2)
She inherited it from her mother. SHe has the same underbite/resting b$tch face thing going on.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:47 PM (bdqzU)
That's how you spot a Reptilian.
The Greys have heads shaped like guitar picks.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 02:47 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 02:47 PM (EgOr3)
When I was a Network Admin at a major Telecon. I found porn in the General Consul's home directory. Both my boss and myself made and kept backup tapes of that folder before reporting it to the CEO and COO.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 02:47 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2015 02:45 PM (KETbL)
So she was the stunt double for the alien leader in "V"?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2015 02:47 PM (2Ojst)
If you adapt it to use in a different context, the meaning would be adjusted similarly, so "a pret-a-porter thought" would probably be "a ready-made thought".
Joe Biden thinks of Neil Kinnocks speeches as "pret-a-porter speeches", for example.
Posted by: MTF, Bring On The Art. 5 Convention! at March 12, 2015 02:48 PM (LISuA)
Ah, good catch!
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:45 PM (bdqzU)
And of course.... even after the Lois Lerner email debacle...
Note there is no mention of any BACK UP tapes.
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 02:48 PM (qh617)
Of course they did.
That's how the left works.
Remember the SEIU goons and other assorted goons doing that to the families of people who worked at big banks in '08/'09?
Not even the CEOs, just joe schmoe from accounting. Probably found him on linkedin.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:48 PM (AkOaV)
Her wording is not strange at all. Thus:
Hillary, 2015: "There is no classified information", meaning "That I am not currently holding classified information in my hand as I am talking to you imbeciles in the press."
Bill, 1999: "There is no inappropriate sexual relationship", meaning "Monica Lewinsky is not presently licking my bung-hole as I am talking to you willing dupes in the press."
Hillary learned this bit long ago.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2015 02:48 PM (72D6h)
Posted by: Bitch McConnell at March 12, 2015 02:48 PM (lG2E3)
Posted by: Mooch at March 12, 2015 02:49 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 02:48 PM (qh617)
No one uses back up tapes anymore (except the federal government, and other big stupid bureaucracies.)
Most use disk to disk back up.
Tapes are so... 1992.
Also, they suck to retrieve info from.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:49 PM (AkOaV)
...
Awesome. How would you like to be the police officer tapped to provide them protection.
"Look at what you're making me do! I'm having to defend a stupid frat boy - BUT I REPEAT MYSELF - because you couldn't content yourselves with dragging his name through the mud, but had to raise things to a physical level. Gee, thanks."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 02:49 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: wrg500
WIH would you keep any?
On a business device?
That can be remotely accessed?
Posted by: Moron with crayons at March 12, 2015 02:49 PM (b7GF2)
Hint: It starred one of our biggest lefty actors back before he was famous.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:49 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 12, 2015 02:49 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: troyriser at March 12, 2015 02:50 PM (q/891)
Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2015 02:45 PM (KETbL)
The more disturbing feature is the nictitating membrane.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 02:50 PM (oKE6c)
It has to be assumed. Hell, I hope our guys went to her and said 'let us plant a few false flags in there".
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:50 PM (H2Opj)
Guccifier hack Sid Blumenthal's email acct. that is where Hillary's private email acct first came to light.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 02:50 PM (sWgE+)
========================
I remember this happening!
To a friend. It was a friend.
Posted by: MTF, Bring On The Art. 5 Convention! at March 12, 2015 02:50 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2015 02:50 PM (XvsbD)
Hell.... I've still got copies of dirt on some of my Ex clients...
Especially the hinky ones.... because if they are not trustworthy, its good to have ammunition in case they somehow decide to come after you...
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 02:50 PM (qh617)
Good one by Jonah Goldberg:
"Never mind that it's much easier to set up two email systems on one device than it is to set up a whole dark server hidden from the government."
Posted by: m at March 12, 2015 02:50 PM (WIUGG)
Hillary doesn't obey them because she knows they won't be enforced.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2015 02:50 PM (u2qmh)
That's why people hate IT nerds.
Guys just trying to get his pr0n on, and you're gettin all up in his biznatch.
He should have worked for the government, they encourage regular pr0n consumption over there.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:51 PM (AkOaV)
Pret-a-porter was also a movie that had something to do with fashion but was mainly about having a dozen supermodels walk the catwalk nekkid.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 02:51 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Noted Pederast Hairy Reid at March 12, 2015 02:51 PM (7ObY1)
air that Michelle Obama looks like a cast member from Planet of the
Apes.<<<
Not 'Star Wars'?
Posted by: Self-Denouncing at March 12, 2015 02:51 PM (2i576)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 02:52 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at March 12, 2015 02:52 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 02:51 PM (JtwS4)
What's the point of having supermodels nekkid? You might as well put a webcam in the boys' locker room at a middle school.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 02:54 PM (oKE6c)
And do you not think every intelligence agency in the world said "hmmm..." when smokinggun posted the guccifer emails showing that hillary used her own domain?
I remember reading somewhere that both the Brits and Israelis knew about Clintons off the book sex life for years. Not that they were necessarily directly spying on the US president, but this shit gets around in intelligence circles.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:54 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Jay Guevara
Go on....
Posted by: Harry Reid at March 12, 2015 02:54 PM (b7GF2)
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 12, 2015 02:54 PM (PEgKF)
I've seen better legs on a coffee table.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 02:52 PM (7ObY1)
Each butt cheek has its own zip code.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 02:54 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2015 02:55 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 02:54 PM (oKE6c)
Wait, what? What have you heard?
Posted by: Harry Reid at March 12, 2015 02:55 PM (2Ojst)
Her lawyers assume that once deleted the data is gone forever from her server, and that is probably wrong.
Here's the thing, she used several different backup services. Including Google. Google has a bit of a crazy idea about what's yours is theirs after it's "abandoned".
They define abandoned as six months old. So all your emails on gmail that are more than six months old, they mine them for data unabashedly.
That's their gmail service. I have no idea what sneaky definitions they use to claim your old backups are theirs, but I bet they exist. So we should be going after those.
Even if the original disks are gone, drilled through, smashed, melted, and trashed some of the backup services she used probably have data; including from the three month period where Clinton was sending emails in the clear, without encryption.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 12, 2015 02:55 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at March 12, 2015 02:38 PM (u8Yax)
I saw her like that.
Once.
Posted by: Blind Lemon Jefferson at March 12, 2015 02:55 PM (zoehZ)
You think Putin didn't notice hrc22@clintonmail.com and NOT point it out to one of his spooks?
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 02:55 PM (sWgE+)
I've seen better legs on a coffee table.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 02:52 PM (7ObY1)
Untoned, unimpressive, and attached to a rather wide ass.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2015 02:56 PM (2Ojst)
Because the pico-second she stops Clinton Inc. SELC (Somebody Elses) implodes. Financially the running donations stop and they're left with their regular substantial grift and sycophantism. Legally/Threateningly as soon as they're never bound for the big chair again they're no longer a threat.
Posted by: DaveA at March 12, 2015 02:56 PM (DL2i+)
After the Guccifer hack ... everyone would have taken a whack at that server. I kicking myself that I didn't.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2015 02:56 PM (H2Opj)
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:54 PM (AkOaV)
FIFY.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 02:56 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 02:56 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: nraendowment at March 12, 2015 02:57 PM (Msv+6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 12, 2015 02:57 PM (pCOkh)
Posted by: mynewhandle
Before, during or after his presidency? he was a known quantity in Arkansas for years, the during bit everybody learned about, and as for afterward, well, he hasn't exactly been discreet.
The only reason the before part was a surprise was the lack of vetting by the media.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 02:57 PM (b7GF2)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 02:57 PM (5ic5a)
I'm familiar with (civilian at least) government data policies, and while they'd be good enough for most mid sized companies, I have to imagine that Russia and China have intelligence agencies who are at least close to as good as the NSA and know about currently-unknown zero day vulnerabilities (including NSA back doors) in most commercially available software.
not to mention all of the smaller countries out there, and all of the free lancers.
With enough money, you can find someone who will be able to hack in to just about anything.
Hillary just made it easier and cheaper for them by using her silly bootleg set up.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:57 PM (AkOaV)
Most use disk to disk back up.
Tapes are so... 1992.
Also, they suck to retrieve info from.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:49 PM (AkOaV)
Most use off site storage... a couple use NAS...although I do still have a couple of clients who use tape because they don't want to pay someone to update their IT policies (which still calls for tape, even though its getting hard to get).
But us old school IT guys (35 years as a teck) still use the term Back up Tapes for any type of Back up medium...
Now.... get off my lawn... /smile
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 02:57 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Hank at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (iI355)
Nope. He destroyed them.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (bdqzU)
There are USB
memory sticks up to 256G now (or higher?) that can hold the whole 55,000
emails. So she can even say the emails were not stored on a tape or
another computer and still be not lying. She would have to make a
blanket statement the emails do not exist in any form, digital or
otherwise. You won't hear her say this.
In any case, I'm pretty sure the Isreali's noticed she wasn't using a .gov email. They'll have copies just in case Hillary is elected.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (EgOr3)
What a guy!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 02:57 PM (b7GF2)
During his presidency.
I forget the specifics though.
But all it takes is for one clinton staffer to jokingly say something on an unsecured cell phone to another clinton staffer, and there you have it.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (AkOaV)
What's the point of having supermodels nekkid? You might as well put a webcam in the boys' locker room at a middle school.
We apparently have different tastes, but I don't judge.
Scene in question, NSFW
https://youtu.be/eqSsj8BNHJo
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 02:59 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at March 12, 2015 02:59 PM (27KAF)
What a guy!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (XUKZU)
Did he at least include a selfie?
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 02:59 PM (EgOr3)
The main purpose is to assure destruction is complete and reconstruction is impossible, and the various government agencies are responsible for destroying the material as well as assuring it is done properly and thoroughly.
Apart from the illegality of retaining classified material on her private server and deciding by herself what to delete, how did Hillary dispose of it? How can we be assured that she followed proper procedure and that it's really gone?
Posted by: jix at March 12, 2015 02:59 PM (/AU0d)
On a business device?
That can be remotely accessed?
C level executives are often very arrogant about computer infrastructure. They've got to have login access to EVERYTHING, even stuff they have no need to access. They usually have the very best hardware, even if they barely use it. And finally, they often do things on their computers they'd fire you for doing, without a thought.
I mean it's not that hard to use your phone to surf away from the corporate LAN. Or if you really need, you can set up a VPN host at home, and surf from there.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 12, 2015 03:00 PM (jhqr1)
Since she had a personal server, did the installation comply with Federal guidelines on having backups, continuous power, and high security, -email and site security? Obviously not!
If any of us had done this, we'd be residents of the federal grey bar motel for a very long time.
Now that would be an interesting federal law to pass, the "everyman" bill. If everyone else, except a politician would go to jail, the politician automatically gets the maximum penatly for the crime.
Posted by: Dr. Doomsday at March 12, 2015 03:00 PM (W41Dn)
That 6 month rule is not just Google...
Its Federal Law.
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 03:01 PM (qh617)
Or even a non-govt phone.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:01 PM (sWgE+)
What a guy!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (XUKZU)
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#SorryYouHonkyPigsGotSmoked
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 12, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c)
Backup Exec and some of the legacy software still break your data in to packets for tapes, which is why you cannot recover live virtual sessions from them.
But most modern software just write everything, as is, to a disk. Usually a SAN, not a NAS (unless its a small company, I guess). And usually one archiver on site, one off site (for DR purposes) is considered best practices.
But I've heard stories about the old days -- tape libraries and silly shit. Then the IT guys would store the tapes off site. And by off site they meant in their basements.
Then Iron Mountain came along... then VM's... then storage got cheaper.... but the fed gov is still stuck in the early 90s when it comes to IT. I guess any bureaucracy that size would be. What a headache to migrate everything!
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 03:02 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2015 03:02 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: DaveA
This. And this is the reason the obama wing(?) is determined to do this. If she stays viable, she and the Clinton wing are ascendant for perhaps the next sixteen years. And the obama wing had nothiing to do with it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 03:02 PM (b7GF2)
That's why she was careful to say she had no classified
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 03:02 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Algore, Releasing His 2nd Shockwad at March 12, 2015 03:04 PM (lG2E3)
See, that's the question.
If I send a group email, and one of those recipients is outside my org, Outlook warns me about that. Even if a person missed it, the software can certainly warn you. If that feature's turned on I mean.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 12, 2015 03:04 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 12, 2015 03:04 PM (OD2ni)
Hint: It starred one of our biggest lefty actors back before he was famous.
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Ahhhh. You guys are no fun. It was The Moonshine War starring Alan Alda (and Patrick McGoohan and Richard Widmark). Pretty good flick featuring a BAR. Prohibition is ending and a crooked fed, a crooked dentist, and others try to steal a hillbilly's prime hooch stash.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 03:04 PM (XUKZU)
I think her server is probly the most exploited one since Target got busted wide open
And IT STILL IS
This is a no-brainer: Get the fkn server. We can nab people in foreign countries and spirit them off to CIA "black sites" then drop them in an oubliette but we can't grab a 'puter from an old lady?
Posted by: Bigby's Chokehold at March 12, 2015 03:04 PM (3ZtZW)
"Folks, this is a big deal. Any Foreign Service or Civil Service Officer who did anything similar would have run afoul immediately of the Department of State Security guys. Career termination and even criminal charges would have been very real possibilities. That Hillary Clinton was able to get away with this for the duration of her tenure is an outrage. Heads need to roll at State over this, and Hillary should give up her White House ambitions--yeah, right . . ."
He's right; people at State knew about this arrangement. That right there is a raft of criminal charges that could be made against people who don't have the invulnerability the Clintoon's have.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2015 03:04 PM (XvsbD)
Posted by: Barack Obama
#Thepolicebledstupidly
JEF
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 03:05 PM (b7GF2)
Her domain had to be white-listed by IT people all over DC. And probably federated to state.gov.
Thats what I mean when I said everyone knew.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 03:05 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Iblis at March 12, 2015 03:05 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2015 02:43 PM (2Ojst)
_______________________
Ah, thank you. I don't remember if that's the surgery that Carol Burnett had, but I do remember her talking about it once (years ago), and she said that to fix her misalignment, her doctors had had to break her jaw and re-set it, and it was quite a painful and lengthy recovery.
I'll be curious to see if Michelle Obama has it done after 2017.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2015 03:06 PM (lmdHn)
In a sane world, we'd be looking at RICO charges for conspiracy to commit a felony.
But you must not have noticed the giant "D" after her name. That means shes bullet proof.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 03:06 PM (AkOaV)
When I was at DIA about 6 years ago we had massive tape silos. Some sites had 6 to 8 of the beasts.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:06 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 12, 2015 03:06 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 03:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:07 PM (sWgE+)
Nope. He destroyed them.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 02:58 PM (bdqzU)
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That was the point. He was trying to erase anything that linked the Clinton Administration and its inaction on al-Qaeda before the 9/11 Commission got the evidence. One can surmise that what he took had notes taken during briefings (or doodles made during briefings, or evidence that the President didn't attend the briefings). We'll never know.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 12, 2015 03:07 PM (5f5bM)
Posted by: Chupacabras at March 12, 2015 03:07 PM (V40IZ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2015 03:04 PM (XvsbD)
But the Clintons know where all the bodies are buried, so whoever is behind this (ValJar, Obama, Soros, or whoever) doesn't want that to happen.
Because when that happens, those people will turn State's Evidence faster than you can say "boo," and then Clinton goes down harder than when she's with Huma.
When *that* happens, Clinton *also* turns State's Evidence, and who knows how much damage that would do to the Democrat party in general? I mean, we'd be talking about so much damage that even the current crop of Republicans couldn't find a way to be defeated.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 03:08 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 03:08 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 02:56 PM (zOTsN)
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First, as someone upthread has already said, the people who sent classified material to a private email should be prosecuted also. But it still doesn't address the numerous conversations she probably had with people inside and outside the state department, or this government, for that matter. Conversations that never were seen by anyone in DC.
I forget who it was that posted it yesterday, but the email about meeting in secret with a dissident Chinese representative would have most likely been classified as "Top Secret".
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2015 03:08 PM (/HX7u)
I find my slightly puzzled why this appalling woman is so determined to
winning the presidency.Because the pico-second she stops Clinton Inc.
SELC (Somebody Elses) implodes. Financially the running donations stop
and they're left with their regular substantial grift and sycophantism.
Legally/Threateningly as soon as they're never bound for the big chair
again they're no longer a threat.
Posted by: DaveA
This. And this is the reason the obama wing(?) is determined to do
this. If she stays viable, she and the Clinton wing are ascendant for
perhaps the next sixteen years. And the obama wing had nothiing to do
with it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 03:02 PM (b7GF2)
******************
They have to keep it going until we're #ReadyforChelsea
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 12, 2015 03:08 PM (5f5bM)
Its Federal Law.
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 03:01 PM (qh617)
So, the Microsoft Outlook/Microsoft Exchange we use at the law firm, after 6 months they can just poke around in our emails???
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 03:08 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:09 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 03:09 PM (zOTsN)
I wonder about that statement. Is it true? Or was horndog Bill just trying to justify himself to a woman he was trying to bed? Or both?
Posted by: bonhomme at March 12, 2015 03:09 PM (jhqr1)
So, we assume that someone was reading her email and the question then becomes who did so and what did they do with it.
As I said in earlier comments, Putin's actions would be much more easily understood if he were in possession of private US administration communication opposing countermeasures.
Even worse is the prospect that the Norks or the Chinese - oh so good at the long game - or less likely Iran - found a pile of material that'd render her resignation or impeachment necessary should she be elected President, and are sitting on this for future use (you can spell that 'blackmail') in the event that she might be elected President.
It's not even beyond consideration that such information would be quite useful to the French or the Israelis or other nominally friendly states whose interests do not always align with those of the US administration.
Now I'll take off my tinfoil hat and go bake some samosas on it.
Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2015 03:09 PM (o+SC1)
Unless your license agreement says otherwise- which it likely does.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 03:09 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 03:10 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 03:09 PM (kff5f)
Ah, thank you, AllenG! I'm having a good chuckle about the other firm, though, where they decided to have everything hosted on Gmail because it was cheap. No matter how stupid you know someone is, they can still surprise you!
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 03:12 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Lawyer at March 12, 2015 03:12 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: bonhomme
Probably the latter.he may have been trying for the inverse of "my wife doesn't understand me"
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 03:12 PM (b7GF2)
LOL..... I lived though the 'old days'...
When I started with computers... IT was not even a term yet.
I used to solder in individual memory modules...
Some of the equipment I worked on in the Navy, is now in the Smithsonian Institute.... which is pretty damn scary...
Most today use Shadow copy to take a snapshot of the entire server... so its easier to restore the image... or an individual file... from a local copy stored on either a NAS, or some USB device...
But many companies want offsite storage... so you end up with backups of specific databases off site ( mission or business critical information) instead of the entire server...
We normally set up both ( I mainly support Drs. offices, Electronic Medical Record stuff).
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 03:13 PM (qh617)
Wait, what?
Assuming this actually is a Federal law, why would a licensing agreement supersede it?
Posted by: bonhomme at March 12, 2015 03:13 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: scott at March 12, 2015 03:13 PM (SHQyh)
Oh pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease.
With sugar on top.
Of course, with the idiots in charge of the GOPe, they'd never be able to bring themselves to even mention any of the high crimes and misdemeanors of the Dims. There's just no reason not to be pounding this up their asses at every opportunity. Paint all Dims with the same corrupt brush, like they do to Repumpkins.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 03:13 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 12, 2015 03:13 PM (FRkJH)
I guarantee you that server wasn't even built with a STIG image.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:14 PM (sWgE+)
If the server was set up as its claimed it was, then yes, most likely ever two-bit intelligence agency in the world was able to hack in to her emails as soon as they found out she had a private domain. Which depending on how important the country is, may have meant post-guccifer.
Most of us could have hacked in to her email at any time if we used one of the widely available hacks on the interwebs. But we're not script kiddies.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 03:14 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2015 03:14 PM (o+SC1)
I just re-glanced at the post and it occurred to me that the theory that Ace is positing is quite Games of Thronesian.
Weiners, and all.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 03:14 PM (Pww3C)
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 03:08 PM (EgOr3)
Nope.... as long as you access the account every 6 months, it is not abandoned....
Its only if you do not access it within 6 months.
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 03:14 PM (qh617)
still be in the same state she was always in. Does that make Kerry a
Cabinet bigamist/fake SOS?
I'm not a legally binding kind of secretary of state.
Posted by: J F Kerry at March 12, 2015 03:14 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 03:15 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Hacker at March 12, 2015 03:15 PM (e8kgV)
Google Apps for Business or gmail?
If you're paying per person per month, then your emails are (supposedly) yours.
If you're using free gmail... uh, not sure. Wouldnt recommend doing that.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 03:15 PM (AkOaV)
They don't need Stuxnet to penetrate this system
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 03:15 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 03:15 PM (Pww3C)
And more than hiding e-mails from the citizenry they had to keep the Chicago beaks out.
Posted by: DaveA at March 12, 2015 03:15 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2015 03:16 PM (ZBGyR)
Posted by: Peaches at March 12, 2015 03:16 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:16 PM (sWgE+)
Hey, hanging 9-tracks helped pay for my long-gone GTP. I never parked it on Vic's lawn though.
Posted by: DaveA at March 12, 2015 03:17 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: bonhomme
Curious; where was that info from? Was it in the NYT article?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2015 03:17 PM (XvsbD)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2015 03:17 PM (h4vJk)
Its only if you do not access it within 6 months.
That's not the way I read it. Google talked about any email that was six months old being abandoned. Nothing about accessing the account resetting the clock.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 12, 2015 03:17 PM (jhqr1)
I'm not a legally binding kind of secretary of state.
So, the question is ... how do you make them legally binding without the Congress ?
The negotiations involve five countries with Iran and will likely lead
to Security Council resolutions. Once those resolutions are passed, the
US has a legal obligation as a Security Council member to abide by
them.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Lawyer at March 12, 2015 03:17 PM (e8kgV)
or, in this case, Stinkfinger
In classic mob parlance, Tuna Two Fingers.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 03:18 PM (5ic5a)
I goofed a while back and misconfigured an update that led to a few months of a list's archives ending up in Google search.
Nothing of national security importance or even career-threatening embarrassment to any of the participants, but I was still highly POed at my own mistake.
Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2015 03:18 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 12, 2015 03:19 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 03:15 PM (AkOaV)
Last time I read Googles License agreement...
If its the free storage, anything on it they gave themselves an unlimited non revocable License to use....
So if you put a Picture on the free storage... they do not own it (you can sell it)... but they would have a License to USE it... or even modify it...
Google is not your friend... there is no such thing as a free lunch.... thus if you are not the Paying Client... you are the Product.
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 03:20 PM (qh617)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 12, 2015 03:21 PM (0Ew3K)
Sunday's book thread should be in his honor.
Also, we should all wear lilac blossoms.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 03:22 PM (kff5f)
I look at her, I see a deeply unpleasant, screeching, power-deranged bitch who owes everything she has to bending over and taking Bill's hog. But apparently, there are large numbers of people who look at her and say, "That... THAT'S ... the only person I want leading the country."
What am I totally missing?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 12, 2015 03:22 PM (4YKBD)
OK, she handled classified material in a way that's illegal. That's established, I don't think that's what she's hiding.
What would damage her politically is love letters to Saudi Arabia for donating to the CGI. That business was conducted on the same exchange, because it's a CGI server.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 03:23 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2015 03:23 PM (ZBGyR)
Ok, well, at least that's what nobody me thinks.
Posted by: Jack Hagan at March 12, 2015 03:23 PM (U1iMh)
Sunday's book thread should be in his honor.
Also, we should all wear lilac blossoms.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 03:22 PM
*nods*
Ook.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2015 03:24 PM (h4vJk)
Because "glass ceiling." And "Grrrrrl power." And "Historic First."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 03:24 PM (kff5f)
them.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Lawyer at March 12, 2015 03:17 PM (e8kgV)
The UN abides by UN dictates because we ratified the Treaty, which made us part of the UN.
Treaties have the force of US Law... but they do NOT trump the Constitution... which says that the Senate must ratify any treaties the US enters into.
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 03:25 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 12, 2015 03:22 PM (4YKBD)
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A free phone, free healthcare, and an EBT card.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2015 03:25 PM (/HX7u)
"They're the cream I tell ya!"
"Cohen... they're the cheese."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Wearing The Lilac at March 12, 2015 03:25 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: evenst4r at March 12, 2015 03:25 PM (1+ETW)
Yep, this is a Clinton V Obama battle for control of the Dem Party.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:26 PM (sWgE+)
You're reading them all. Would you believe any of it? I mean, even Fuji has cleverer people than that, right? You'd just have to think it was all Honeypots and Headfakes
[which is the newest RPG from WOTC, due out 2016!]
Posted by: Bigby's Chokehold at March 12, 2015 03:26 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Pocket Trout at March 12, 2015 03:27 PM (HGLpg)
I look at her, I see a deeply unpleasant, screeching, power-deranged bitch who owes everything she has to bending over and taking Bill's hog. But apparently, there are large numbers of people who look at her and say, "That... THAT'S ... the only person I want leading the country."
What am I totally missing?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 12, 2015 03:22 PM (4YKBD)
I don't get it either, but here's your calibration. When that dumb shit JFK Jr. went into the drink, I was on a site where assorted LIVs were bleating about how we'd lost a great future leader. WTF? He was a pretty boy who was too stupid to come in out of the rain, had approximately all the perspicacity and judgment of a goose, and proved it by, as a novice pilot, flying off into the night to find an tiny island in a very big ocean.
And they wanted HIM as a future leader??
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 03:27 PM (oKE6c)
Forget "Evil Nation."
If you're the Head of State from ANY nation and found Hillary's email open like that, you're reading them (well, having analysts read them). Because that's how this works.
We don't have any "friends" on the "world stage." We have allies. And alliances- however long they do last- are inherently temporary.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Wearing The Lilac at March 12, 2015 03:27 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Bigby's Chokehold at March 12, 2015 03:28 PM (3ZtZW)
"Cohen... they're the cheese."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Wearing The Lilac at March 12, 2015 03:25 PM
"There are 700,000 of them."
"So...something simple with pasta, then?"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2015 03:28 PM (h4vJk)
Back in the day, I could never understand Ace's distain for Sarah Palin based on the pitch of her voice.
Now, listening to the podcast, I find myself totally disgusted by this sniveling, Oxford educated twit Charles C. W. Cooke. His voice grates on me like fingers on a chalkboard.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2015 03:28 PM (9ZZd+)
I mean, come on, she abandoned our 4 diplomats to their fates
Actually, she abandoned about 40-60 diplomats to their fates. It was only the courage of the US security team (who defended them against orders, if memory serves) that saved most of them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2015 03:29 PM (SpnVI)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Wearing The Lilac at March 12, 2015 03:27 PM (kff5f)
To paraphrase Lord Acton, we have no friends. Only interests.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 03:29 PM (oKE6c)
Sorry, tried to find it. It was someone who did a data trail analysis of what companies registered the clintonemail.com and they mentioned a company that did spam prevention for it and they mentioned backup services.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 12, 2015 03:29 PM (jhqr1)
We know clintons and obama's hate each other
We think we know that some deal was made for Hillary to drop out and cede the nomination to Obama instead of her fighting it out at the convention or something.
We think we know that said deal probably gets her Obama's endorsement in the primaries.
We damn well know that if that deal existed, there is no way in hell he actually delivers on this.
Based on the knowledge we have of the scofflaws running the show, it's fairly certain that her server contains information that would be incriminating to Obama.
Now... I have said this before, I have no love for the Clinton's or their political machine but I would trade Obama for a third Bill Clinton term in a new york minute. Regardless fo that, Hillary is not as politically gifted as slick willy, it's starting to look like a possibility she might not survive this. All the screaming masses at places like Gawker defending her or saying, hey this is no big deal dont matter. Normal people, not political wonks, look at this presented even in a biased manner and are saying "WTF?"
If in fact their chapter of American politics is coming to an end. What do we think about her trading the server for immunity? I will happily let the Clintons go on their merry way if they destroy Obama on their way out the door. What do you guys think?
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at March 12, 2015 03:30 PM (n/ogz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2015 03:31 PM (rDqRv)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2015 03:28 PM (h4vJk)
"Poor old Teach... he didn't have our experience at not dyin'."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Wearing The Lilac at March 12, 2015 03:31 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 12, 2015 03:32 PM (MMC8r)
He thinks she is returning the classified
She can't. It implicates her. Remember this got pushed because of the benghazi committee
Judicial watch is suing again for cases that were dismissed previously for her emails
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 03:32 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Bigby's Chokehold at March 12, 2015 03:32 PM (3ZtZW)
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Don't think this is a safe assumption.
Despite the "I'm a doddering idiot when it comes to email" pose, its probably not the case that she is.
Presumably, having access to an eight figure rich private foundation ALSO gives her access to actual IT people who know that hitting the "delete" button doesn't actually wipe the drive contents. IE, she didn't put in this server HERSELF. . .she had tech people or a tech company do it, and the ones that did that, and maintained it would also know the above.
IE, if she's going or (more likely) has already gone through all these emails, she may have simply archived the ones she wanted to keep onto a separate hard drive, then physically destroyed the original one.
Posted by: looking closely at March 12, 2015 03:32 PM (PwGfd)
You couldn't make it "official" but I would also want her delivering enough Clinton Wing votes to impeach el JEFfe and remove him from office.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Wearing The Lilac at March 12, 2015 03:33 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 12, 2015 03:22 PM (4YKBD)
I always come back to that same problem. A least Bill was supposedly
likeable for the average LIV, although I find him annoying as hell I can
see it. Obama's voice can have a soothing, hypnotic effect the LIV's and can even come off as sincere and caring on occasion. Hillary is like a
screeching parrot. Who is drawn to this, besides other screeching
parrots?
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 12, 2015 03:33 PM (1BQGO)
Destroy Obama? You think race relations are bad now? If that were to happen I think you would see a up rise like this country has never seen.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:33 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2015 03:31 PM (rDqRv)
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Vayjaydemocratium.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2015 03:33 PM (/HX7u)
You're missing the Free Shit Army Mentality. Expansion of free shit under historic first semi-black dude? Check. Expansion of free shit under historic first female? Check. Expansion of free shit under historic first cross-dressing free-range chicken f*cking male 'trapped in a woman's body'. More checks then teeth in a hockey game.
The Dems just want that magic 50.01% number. The have honed their methods to a predictable methodology.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 12, 2015 03:34 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: Pete at March 12, 2015 03:34 PM (n1YFn)
Or me -- -- Hillary
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 03:34 PM (WNERA)
Like any intelligence report, you verify it against known information. Sure, the intelligence agency is masterful at selling the lies, but you do your due diligence and make a call.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 12, 2015 03:34 PM (jhqr1)
I also received a spam email from National Review talking about how the insider buzz is growing for Rubio.
Seriously....? Is THAT the hill the GOPe wants to die on?
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 12, 2015 03:34 PM (eytER)
Because they all illegally conduct government business (at least the shadier stuff) on private emails.
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Well at least they HAVE gov't emails.
The problem is that HRC didn't even do that!
Posted by: looking closely at March 12, 2015 03:34 PM (PwGfd)
What do you guys think?
Offer immunity. Get the server. Throw her ass in jail.
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 03:34 PM (5ic5a)
Posted by: no good deed at March 12, 2015 03:35 PM (ZKGnj)
Posted by: Lucy Ricardo at March 12, 2015 03:36 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 03:36 PM (evdj2)
it? I mean, even Fuji has cleverer people than that, right? You'd just
have to think it was all Honeypots and Headfakes
[which is the newest RPG from WOTC, due out 2016!]
Posted by: Bigby's Chokehold at March 12, 2015 03:26 PM (3ZtZW)
Had the same thought, but the analysis is kind of like a matrushka doll.
Imagine the reasoning in hostile capital X: "It's easy to hack the server. Too easy. Hmmm. Suspicious. Maybe they want us to hack the server, to feed us disinformation. But you'd think that they'd make it somewhat harder, to make it plausible that they were trying to keep this secret, but we defeated their security. But then, maybe they figured that we'd figure that that's what they'd do, so they figured that they'd act like totally incompetent fools, because no intelligence service would ever do something this stupid, even as a ploy, and so by being this stupid they'd be signaling that the intelligence services were not involved. "
"I need an aspirin, comrade."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 03:36 PM (oKE6c)
Guaranteed if someone was able to subpoena all email addresses of everyone in DC, they'd find that every single one of them has at least one (actually) private email address, at least one "private" email address (for sketchy stuff), then a public email address that they only use for the mundane day to day stuff.
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Contrary to popular belief, not everyone in DC is doing shady stuff. And if they are, many of them are hopefully smart enough to use something more secure than email!!! Most people are probably more likely to use the work email for personal stuff than vice versa.
There is nothing shady about having personal email, but having your own server and using NO work email address at all is next level shady. Most people couldn't get away with that anyway because theirIT dept/bosseswould never allow it. Most especially with anything classified or that needed encryption.
The only reason she got away with this is because she's a clinton and a democrat.
Posted by: Lea at March 12, 2015 03:37 PM (lIU4e)
= boilerplate?
Posted by: m at March 12, 2015 03:37 PM (WIUGG)
Still wouldn't top The War of Northern Agression.
If they feel froggy, jump.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 03:37 PM (5ic5a)
Bruce Jenner 2016?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 03:37 PM (oKE6c)
I must be immune.
Those whistled s's drive me up the wall.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 03:37 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: looking closely at March 12, 2015 03:32 PM (PwGfd)
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Somewhere, deep underground in some sub-basement, ALL of Hildebeast's emails lie hidden.......waiting.
Just like Lerner's emails were.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2015 03:38 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 03:36 PM (oKE6c)
Even if you suspect the acct to be bogus you would still watch the acct and verify through other means the info you get.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:39 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Agent Jones at March 12, 2015 03:40 PM (evdj2)
I must be immune.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 03:37 PM (7ObY1)
That's because your not a LIV. Just let go and think happy thoughts.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 12, 2015 03:41 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 03:41 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: The NSA at March 12, 2015 03:42 PM (xQX/f)
Even if you suspect the acct to be bogus you would still watch the acct and verify through other means the info you get.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:39 PM (sWgE+)
Sure. I was kind of kidding, thinking about how the whole thing would center on "just how stupid are these people, anyway?"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 12, 2015 03:42 PM (oKE6c)
I smell buyer's remorse. Admit it ACE, you are still a Republican,
It's OK, we will still follow your hairy ass.
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 03:43 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2015 03:28 PM (9ZZd+)
My ex-wife's high-pitched, bitch queen voice and cackling laughterhas that effect on me. My daughter's weddingday last May was alternately joyous and nauseating.
Posted by: troyriser at March 12, 2015 03:43 PM (q/891)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Wearing The Lilac at March 12, 2015 03:31 PM
So many quotable lines...so little time.
*raises a Winkle's in salute*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2015 03:44 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 03:44 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand
possible. I suspect that the obama wingbelieves that after bubba, he won't get impeached. And being the second first black president (after bubba), he's covered.
he's been covered for years, down to his college transcripts. What happens when two priveleged, amoral people who act above the law turn on one another?
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 03:45 PM (b7GF2)
Well, by definition, every email she sent had a recipient, and they may have copies. IE, Hilary can't easily delete emails on OTHER PEOPLE's computers (let alone on the computers of foreign officials). Or at least backup copies might exist on their equipment. But archiving all of them would be effectively impossible for any third party investigator.
Incrimination is usually a two way street. . .IE the individuals receiving incriminating emails probably wouldn't want them released either.
The NSA may well have all of these. . .but it won't release them.
In terms of criminal prosecution here, that's not going to happen. Obama isn't going to prosecute his own ex-SecState especially after she's out of office, especially because he had to know about this, and especially because she's the Dem's best (however thin) chance of retaining the White House.
If she wins election, HRC, obviously, isn't going to prosecute herself. And no GOP administration would prosecutor her, because no matter how well-deserved that type of prosecution would be portrayed as a partisan witchhunt.
So basically the only thing HRC has to do is get this issue off the TV screens until after the election. After that, she's scott-free.
Posted by: looking closely at March 12, 2015 03:47 PM (6Q9g2)
The GOPe refusal to turn the Clintons against Obama is sickening.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2015 03:47 PM (W3hdj)
My friends, the Constitution is a useless appendage, which needs to be removed. I have more experience in that field then any other candidate.
Posted by: Bruce Jenner at March 12, 2015 03:47 PM (xQX/f)
If by "soothing and hypnotic " you mean "nauseated, spiked BP, spewing Tourette's style profanity, and throwing shit at the TV", then yeah. That.
FBHO for what he's done and is continuing to do. Dreams of his father, indeed.
Posted by: Jaws at March 12, 2015 03:48 PM (WKNX4)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:49 PM (sWgE+)
Popcorn sales go thru the roof.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 03:49 PM (5ic5a)
The server that keeps on giving.
Posted by: Pocket Trout at March 12, 2015 03:49 PM (HGLpg)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 03:45 PM (b7GF2)
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We will eventually learn of all these people's gangrenous corruption. The Bible promises us that. It just probably won't be in the time frame that we'd wish.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2015 03:49 PM (/HX7u)
5 days until Israeli election
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 03:51 PM (Pww3C)
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As I said upthread, I'm just waiting for Hillary's check to cash -- and also I have to drop by the Walmart and pick up some bigger socks.
Posted by: Sandy Berger at March 12, 2015 03:51 PM (lmdHn)
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 03:51 PM (Pww3C)
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2015 03:52 PM (/HX7u)
My friends, the Constitution is a useless appendage, which needs to be removed. I have more experience in that field then any other candidate.
Posted by: Bruce Jenner at March 12, 2015 03:47 PM (xQX/f)
You throwing me one more ride, Mr. President?
Posted by: Kim Kardashian West, PhD at March 12, 2015 03:53 PM (HGLpg)
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 03:51 PM (Pww3C)
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The leftist/islamist gloatfest will be unbearable.
Posted by: Soona at March 12, 2015 03:55 PM (/HX7u)
"The Movement" won't even be thought of. Not with those two massive egos.
They get to battling each other and the movement will be forgotten.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 03:55 PM (5ic5a)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2015 03:56 PM (h4vJk)
No the movement has a life of it's own. It's a mine set not controlled by any individual.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 03:57 PM (sWgE+)
Oh, and even though the premise exists that the there's mutual hate between the Clinton's and the Ogumbies, I'm still not convinced that they're willing to destroy the progressive movement over it.
obama doesn't view the clinton wing of the party as progressive and clinton has big money corporate intrest that view obama as a wealth redistributionist
Posted by: kj at March 12, 2015 03:58 PM (lKyWE)
No the movement has a life of it's own. It's a mine set not controlled by any individual.
Correct. That's why they won't give it a second thought when they start to destroy each other.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 03:59 PM (5ic5a)
We have absolutely NO REASON to believe classified information is on Clinton's servers.
Posted by: Jay at March 12, 2015 04:00 PM (hL/0E)
The best reason is that a Clinton says they're not.
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 04:17 PM (evdj2)
True. Refer to comment #111.
BTW, having worked with classified info, myself, just taking that stuff out of a secure location without explicit permission is a big NO-NO, whether you show it to anybody or not. Classified info has to be CONTROLLED at all times. The higher the classification, the bigger a deal it is.
ALSO BTW, come to think of it, this might be a good time to remark on the lunacy of electing people who would never be able to get a security clearance to high office (speaking to Obama's drug use and associations with a known Communist and at least one convicted felon, not to mention the couple who were on the FBI's most wanted list for being terrorists).
Posted by: Optimizer at March 12, 2015 04:27 PM (/q6+P)
BUT!!!!
You have failed to recognize that with Obama, narcissism comes first - even before socialism - and that Obama reportedly doesn't consider Killary to be a committed enough socialist to carry the ball for him. Obama is too self-centered to care about a movement that he isn't the focus of. Just look at how he sacrificed both the House, then the Senate, to have his way. He did little to help the party.
Posted by: Optimizer at March 12, 2015 04:31 PM (/q6+P)
If any classified information hit the server she'd be obligated to inform the relevant security group, who would cooperate in the cleanup. It's absurd to think that any security guy would approve the continued use of the server after seeing it in action. A FOIA request might or might not reveal if there was a spillage of classified data on the server.
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at March 12, 2015 04:53 PM (XZWie)
Posted by: MikeD at March 12, 2015 04:58 PM (uKJIC)
But she is equally prohibited from DESTROYING the information. Once classified material of any sort makes its way onto a system, it requires special handling and only a an appropriate classification authority is allowed to approve its destruction and put it through the process to properly destroy it.
And furthermore, just hitting "delete" doesn't ensure destruction. That's nowhere near sufficient for classified (or even sensitive but unclassified) info. The hard drive needs to go through a long, intensive wipe process where ever sector is overwritten multiple times to remove magnetic traces. Or better yet, dumped in a shredder.
Posted by: can of spam at March 13, 2015 09:01 AM (g0aRc)
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