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Open Thread
John Ottis Adams, "Flower Border" (1900)
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: HH at March 12, 2015 10:48 AM (Ce4DF)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 10:49 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: HH at March 12, 2015 10:49 AM (Ce4DF)
CHOO
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at March 12, 2015 10:49 AM (TPjwz)
Posted by: EC at March 12, 2015 10:50 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 10:50 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 12, 2015 10:50 AM (OCcU9)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at March 12, 2015 10:50 AM (TPjwz)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 10:50 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 12, 2015 10:51 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2015 10:51 AM (ZbCKc)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 10:51 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at March 12, 2015 10:51 AM (SCcgT)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 12, 2015 10:51 AM (so+oy)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 10:51 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 10:51 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 10:52 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 10:52 AM (kff5f)
Spanish flies.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 10:52 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2015 10:53 AM (MQEz6)
"The desperate hyperventilation by Republicans and conservative talkers over the intense, national backlash to this letter has caused them to search for a Democratic equivalent to the dangerous precedent set by 47 Republican Senators," said Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill. "The fact is, there is simply not one."
... "bipartisan effort" ... who knew ?
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 12, 2015 10:53 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 10:53 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2015 10:55 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 10:55 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at March 12, 2015 10:55 AM (UaV8u)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 10:56 AM (lKSyl)
After my gig last Sunday, we hung around and started listening to music on the 6,000 watt sound system in the club.
Imagine my surprise when my guitar-playing buddy (whom I'm in the process of converting into an eeeevill conservative *rubs hands together in glee*) pulls up this gem. It was all over the radio before he was even a gleam in his Dad's eye.
Eumir Deodato - Thus Spake Zarathustra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJK3eUP5Hvg
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 10:56 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 10:56 AM (zOTsN)
Same goes for the above paragraph.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2015 10:56 AM (MQEz6)
It's distracting you from the ones you don't see. They should move in for the kill in 3...2...1...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 12, 2015 10:56 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Christian Conservative at March 12, 2015 10:56 AM (o4QT+)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 10:57 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 12, 2015 10:58 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: MTF, Bring On The Art. 5 Convention! at March 12, 2015 10:58 AM (LISuA)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 12, 2015 10:58 AM (7RXcs)
Posted by: Georgia O'Keefe at March 12, 2015 10:58 AM (/Z54L)
Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2015 10:58 AM (8dwuI)
Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2015 10:58 AM (84SRe)
Posted by: EC at March 12, 2015 10:59 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: JTB at March 12, 2015 10:59 AM (FvdPb)
Posted by: 1939 at March 12, 2015 11:00 AM (evdj2)
ratio of racist chant news stories to white cop shot in the face news stories
Ferguson shooting is top story on google news right now, with about 10 articles.
There are zero about OU SAE.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:00 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: The Triumphant Return of Crusty Butthole at March 12, 2015 11:00 AM (KvKOu)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 12, 2015 11:00 AM (xq1UY)
I think we're supposed to hover right around that for the next several days.
All I can say is, "about d*mn time."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:01 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Fritz at March 12, 2015 11:01 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:01 AM (zOTsN)
It's not the one you see that gets you.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 10:51 AM (JtwS4)
They could hide in the flowers because adult raptors were generally 1.6 ft. tall at the hip (wikipedia).
*ponders....thus, making them the perfect attack animal for AtC!!
Posted by: Mainah at March 12, 2015 11:01 AM (659DL)
Yeah.
How many are pro-rioters?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:01 AM (kff5f)
*ponders....thus, making them the perfect attack animal for AtC!!
Posted by: Mainah at March 12, 2015 11:01 AM (659DL)She saddles them and rides them around.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 12, 2015 11:02 AM (V2UGp)
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:02 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: citizen khan at March 12, 2015 11:02 AM (cFr4q)
They'll report that?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 11:02 AM (0HooB)
Racist Militarized Thug Cops.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:02 AM (kff5f)
Fuck you, Al Gore.
Posted by: FDR's Television at March 12, 2015 11:02 AM (ne2fm)
How convenient.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:03 AM (7ObY1)
*ponders....thus, making them the perfect attack
animal for AtC!!
Rideable. Like a pony!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 11:03 AM (qTPeM)
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 11:03 AM (MYCIw)
"The state is me."
Barack Obama I
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2015 11:03 AM (DXzRD)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 12, 2015 11:03 AM (/Ho8c)
http://freebeacon.com/blog/kate-upton-and-puppies/
Also *makes fingers to eyes to thread motion*
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:04 AM (mf5HN)
http://tinyurl.com/ncv45ml
He left out the whole, "Reminiscent of Genghis Khan..." bullshit, that forever solidified Kerry as a traitorous fuck in my mind.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 12, 2015 11:04 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2015 11:05 AM (DXzRD)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 11:05 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: The Wicked Witch of the West at March 12, 2015 11:05 AM (2i576)
Eyewitnesses were helpful to the police. They've identified suspects, apprehended two from a house and are now breaking into the attack to get a third.
Live blog:
http://bit.ly/1MusYNV
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:06 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 12, 2015 11:06 AM (lKSyl)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 11:06 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:06 AM (zOTsN)
From the previous thread:
A better headline that more accurately reflects the deliberate partisan nature of the media reporting would be something like, "German Railways Still Punctual Despite Jews Riding For Free"
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 12, 2015 10:46 AM (KDbAT)
YES.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2015 11:06 AM (CMkNk)
Okay, at this point you've got me on board.
If the University did not follow its own disciplinary procedures, then they are clearly in the wrong. That is something I had not heard before.
However, I will stand by my characterization of the University not being an agent of the state (because the nature of the association between university and student is mutually voluntary), and therefore not subject to the first amendment.
The problem I have with "speech codes" on university campii is not that the Universities should not have the right to have them, but that they are not applied equally- and a rule not equally and justly enforced is not a rule, but a whim.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:06 AM (kff5f)
Hiding in the flowers along with Hillary's server.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2015 11:06 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2015 11:07 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Penfold at March 12, 2015 11:07 AM (Fbt5B)
After several days near or in the 50's we still have some snow on the ground.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 12, 2015 10:51 AM (so+oy)
It's been in the 60s the last few days at Offutt. We've still got a patch of very stubborn snow on our north-facing front lawn. But the birds are back and I can open the windows in the afternoon, so I'm calling it spring!
Posted by: pookysgirl is supposed to be resting at March 12, 2015 11:08 AM (dCUzJ)
http://freebeacon.com/blog/kate-upton-and-puppies/
See, I post that in the Dump and nobody cares! And I even refrained from cracks about the Empress' compact magnificence... >snif<
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 12, 2015 11:08 AM (DT3rQ)
Eyewitnesses were helpful to the police. They've identified suspects, apprehended two from a house and are now breaking into the attack to get a third.
Hmmm. No "snitches get stitches"?
Maybe some of the "oppressed minorities" have had enough of this shit. One can only hope.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:08 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 12, 2015 11:08 AM (BZAd3)
Maybe not.
Posted by: OSTB at March 12, 2015 11:08 AM (ShdUd)
Its part of the SAE song book and has been for decades.
I heard somewhere that they had had a black member in '99. I wonder how awkward he felt.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:09 AM (JtwS4)
Had to run to a meeting, but thanks for all the jam session nervousness responses. I think some of the guys were scared too, at least the ones who aren't very good
So at least it's not just me being girly or something. But I hate being put on the spot and the whole thing was like 'go, now you're on the spot'.
Posted by: Lea at March 12, 2015 11:09 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 11:09 AM (0HooB)
Remember during the big riots, many (most?) of the actual instigators were out-of-towners looking to cause trouble. Entirely possible that's the case here, too.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:09 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Apathetic and proud of it at March 12, 2015 11:09 AM (8n+U+)
Bi-partisan ? .. who knew ?
"IT SEEMS LIKE THE FRUITS OF THIS VISIT WILL NOT APPEAR ALL IMMEDIATELY. IT MIGHT BE HOWEVER, READY WHEN THE DEMOCRATS TAKE THE WHITE HOUSE. IT SEEMS LIKE NANCY PELOSI WANTS TO FIGHT AN AMERICAN DOMESTIC FIGHT OVERSEAS."
http://www.c-span.org/video/?197480-1/speaker-pelosi-visit-syria
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 12, 2015 11:09 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:10 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: fairweatherbill looking for the sweet spot at March 12, 2015 11:11 AM (cNpuB)
The Board of Regents is delegated the power by the Oklahoma state Constitution to govern the university. The Board members are appointed by the Governor and the Legislature acts in its capacity to advise and consent.
So given that landscape, I think they are state actors.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 12, 2015 11:11 AM (eytER)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 12, 2015 11:11 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: fairweatherbill looking for the sweet spot at March 12, 2015 11:11 AM (cNpuB)
Roll the grass every day. Water it every other day. Mow thrice a week.
In 300 years, you'll have a really good lawn.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:12 AM (kff5f)
However, I will stand by my characterization of the University not being an agent of the state (because the nature of the association between university and student is mutually voluntary), and therefore not subject to the first amendment.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:06 AM (kff5f)
I have to give you credit. You are absolutely committed to your utterly incorrect in every possible way stance. Not only that, you are more than willing to continue proving that your position is impenetrable to correction.
Kudos for that.
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:12 AM (mf5HN)
STL Today:
"The protesters seemed to be two camps. The first were there to make a point that they weren't satisfied with the resignations of City Manager John Shaw and Police Chief Thomas Jackson.They were chanting in unison.
The other one was volatile, angry, hurling profanities at the police, media and other protesters. Some skirmishes broke out among the factions."
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:12 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:06 AM (zOTsN)
I agree about the national being responsible but my question is were these kids even on campus at the time. How does the University kick someone out for an off campus event. I see how they could suspend the fraternity but kicking students out??
(Obviously not defending the idiots singing an incredibly stupid song)
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 11:13 AM (ZDJwC)
Did the university accept any gubmint funds?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 11:13 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2015 11:13 AM (DXzRD)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 11:13 AM (evdj2)
You know, eff that. Two to tango. You can't start a riot among the unwilling, I don't care if the ringleaders are local or from elsewhere.
They want to $#!+ where they sleep, eff 'em all.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 12, 2015 11:13 AM (DT3rQ)
I used to be an Air Force rotorhead at Hurlburt Field. I must have done hundreds of night water operations just off the coast of Navarre Beach (which is now momentarily famous, thanks to the mishap two nights ago). Night water operations is dangerous work, even for helicopters like the MH-53 Pave Low that had all of the systems needed for zero illumination flying. Unfortunately, the Pave Low community is gone, scattered to the four winds since 2006. They cost too much to maintain, we were told, and besides, the Army claimed that the 160th SOAR would pick up all of the missions we were doing up in Florida and elsewhere.
So what in the hell were they thinking using Army National Guard UH-60s to do that kind of night mission? (to use an analogy, would you use Army National Guard MP units to do hostage rescue missions?) Where were all these Army SOF helicopters that we were assured would do all of the missions we were doing 10 years ago? Where were the CV-22s that we were told could do all of the missions that the MH-53 used to do with no problem? Were they really just lying to make it look good when they got rid of 40 perfectly good SOF helicopters?
I knew something like this was going to happen eventually and now that it has, I'm not sad, I'm just pissed off. Apparently, we're all expected to post some condolences on Facebook and just move on, forgetting about the underlying issues until it happens again. So don't expect any straight answers from either the Pentagon or anyone else in a leadership position, they were lying 10 years ago when they shut the Pave Lows down and now more lies will be needed to make this latest mishap fade away...
Posted by: Pave Low John at March 12, 2015 11:14 AM (b5yHT)
that way they are invoking federal law which will protect the universities actions
federal legislation will supercede state and OU rules on the matter
OU will be fine. The students if they sue will lose
frankly, it would be better for these students to quietly move on
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:15 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 12, 2015 11:15 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2015 11:16 AM (cbfNE)
These kids were taught a song. They shouldn't have, but too, the PC culture has gone round the bend. This is a great opportunity to forgive and learn but doubling down on ruining these kids lives just puts a knife into learning. And tolerance and forgiveness is not the lesson to be learned but that some things must never be said, ever. That is the opposite of what going to a university "should" be about.
Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2015 11:16 AM (84SRe)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 12, 2015 11:08 AM (DT3rQ)
Nooo, I missed that!
*shoves blondes through USB for you*
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:16 AM (mf5HN)
I can't, but I assume he looks faaaaabbbuuuloussss in his pretty floral bonnet.
Posted by: Jaws at March 12, 2015 11:16 AM (WKNX4)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 11:13 AM (evdj2)
If anyone needs me, I'll be at the Raptor pen performing the needed maintenance on the Royal Extension Cord of Delight.
*whistles the National Anthem of Alextopia whilst walking away*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 11:17 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:16 AM (mf5HN)
Are those blondes part of the sexual elite? I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 11:17 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 11:17 AM (cbfNE)
Er, blondes or blondies? (Swore off blondes after college, too high maintenance and high-impact on SAN levels.)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 12, 2015 11:17 AM (DT3rQ)
I don't think so.
Of course, I'm also not terribly hot on public universities (or schools) in the first place, and this is one of the reasons- it blurs lines which need to be straight and bright.
But I will continue to come back to the "voluntary association" piece. Either that means something, or it doesn't. If it does, then that means that either side *must* be able to dissolve that association. Given the contractual nature of the association, there are rules around such dissolution (so if, indeed, they violated their own procedures, that's a different ball of wax than what I thought), but those rules are agreed to mutually.
You do not have "voluntary association" with agents of the State, because all agents of the state (in theory) wield all the power of the State. The University clearly does (or at least: should) not.
Which brings us right back to that "blurred line" thing.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:17 AM (kff5f)
I think think it was zombie who had a great post about this. The organizers of these protests are often very bad actors who organize the protest into three groups, without alerting the protesters to this structure.
You have the green group which is the nice, useful idiot protesters who are positioned, unbeknownst to them, in a strategically important area. They act as human shields, and also as decoys for the media.
Then you have the yellow group which is the angry group you described. Some of these people will know the true nature of the "protest" but others are just violent useful idiots. They draw the police attention.
Then you have the red group who are the people actually carrying out the violence.
This protest seems like a classic set up.
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 11:18 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 11:18 AM (qTPeM)
Posted by: OSTB at March 12, 2015 11:19 AM (ShdUd)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:19 AM (7ObY1)
If I could dissolve my requirement to fund the state colleges with my tax dollars I *might* agree.
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 11:19 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2015 10:55 AM (cbfNE)
Uh, I'd prefer not to if that's OK. Say, why did you bring a gun....?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 11:19 AM (bdqzU)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:19 AM (kff5f)
Clinic think President Obama should tell people to leave Hillary alone. She is 1000 times better then that idiot Bush and she does not even come close to Bush lies. She would compliment all the hard work Presdent obama has completed to roll back the Bush disaster and the world would love us more for having a woman leader. She would be on the same level as all the leaders in theat Middle east place and probably be able to talk to those Iran guys to calm down and to channel more energy into helping the children and the poor and tell them that the war monger Bush is gone and will never return. That way if we show them we still hate Bush we will have peace and everybody would be happy agian like we were under Presdent Clintan.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 12, 2015 11:20 AM (Sd++4)
Racial healing, y'all.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 12, 2015 11:20 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:20 AM (VAsIq)
Are those blondes part of the sexual elite? I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 11:17 AM (hLRSq)
Debedbugged and everything!
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:21 AM (mf5HN)
Am stressed, or as Gwyneth might say, my adrenal cortex is overflowing. Will see what sellers of THIS house concede, as inspection reveals it needs new roof, furnace, etc. etc. it never ends.xoxo
Posted by: ChristyB would not wear a tunic at March 12, 2015 11:21 AM (TIGDR)
Posted by: guy who reads too much into these paintings at March 12, 2015 11:22 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2015 11:22 AM (SpnVI)
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 11:22 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 11:19 AM (evdj2)
See also: "blurred line."
And I can certainly see where the rest of you are coming from. I just respectfully disagree that this is a first amendment issue.
I do not disagree that it was blown out of proportion, and is yet another example of our "5 minutes' hate" culture.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:22 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 11:22 AM (/Mxso)
=========================
Thanks JJ- now that song is stuck in my head and its all your fault!
Posted by: MTF, Bring On The Art. 5 Convention! at March 12, 2015 11:23 AM (LISuA)
See, for me you also get into "reasonable man" standards (would a reasonable man infer that the speech codes apply to all parties, or just limit what some people find offensive) and possible cartelization issues (when there are open organizations that coordinate these things between institutions, I think there's a debate to be had there) that would seriously impact the issue. Plus the fact that, well, what percentage of tuition income is coming from subsidized student loans?
But mostly, cartels, cartels every-frakking-where these days.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 12, 2015 11:23 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 11:23 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2015 11:23 AM (8dwuI)
God bless America.
http://freebeacon.com/blog/kate-upton-and-puppies/
Also *makes fingers to eyes to thread motion*
Posted by: alexthechick - To
nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:04 AM (mf5HN)
Definitely want to ogle Kate Upton's "puppies", but evidently that means something different to me.
Sigh.
*turns away disappointed*
Posted by: 1bulwetweft having a another fapless thursday. at March 12, 2015 11:24 AM (5Un6g)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:24 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 11:24 AM (sWgE+)
I do care that a white cop got shot in the face after 9 months of racial agitation over a lie by the President and Attorney General of the United States.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 12, 2015 11:24 AM (ZPrif)
*whistles the National Anthem of Alextopia whilst walking away*
*flag*
Unsportsmanlike pandering.
Five yards and loss of down.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:24 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Sabrina Ruben Erdely at March 12, 2015 11:24 AM (9GG/0)
And it holds up remarkably well for a "children's book." As much fun to read now as it always was.
So I was looking up Robert Louis Stevenson online and discovered that he was a conservative.
I need to read his travel stuff. I like old travel writing. Off to Amazon...
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:24 AM (7ObY1)
Fatah giddily celebrates anniversary of Mughrabi massacre, its most lethal attack, inflating body count again and threatening Israelis.
Hey let's give em s State? Fredo's bestest buddies
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2015 11:25 AM (rDqRv)
Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2015 11:25 AM (84SRe)
And it holds up remarkably well for a "children's book." As much fun to read now as it always was.
So I was looking up Robert Louis Stevenson online and discovered that he was a conservative.
I need to read his travel stuff. I like old travel writing. Off to Amazon...
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:25 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Y-not at March 12, 2015 11:25 AM (9BRsg)
The good thing about those kinds of problems coming up in inspection are you can always say "look, now that you officially know about it, you have to mention it anyway. That means you're not going to sell the house without conceding on at least some of it."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:25 AM (kff5f)
But what is left unmentioned is that they must have massively slimmed down Hillary's mid-section. She's gotten quite large, and those down-to-the-knees jackets aren't fooling anyone.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 11:25 AM (bdqzU)
Huh.
We should all wear a Lilac blossom in his honor.
Or "ook" like orangutan.
Maybe both.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:26 AM (kff5f)
http://tinyurl.com/o2ufuzv
(safe link to National Review)
I am just disappointed that they airbrushed out the walker.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 12, 2015 11:26 AM (9GG/0)
he was from OSU not OU
but when you are in a fraternity you go to conferences with other chapters in your region
it is very unlikely that the two chapters of the same fraternity in the same state operated very differently
SAE national had to have known about the songs, their spring formal is called Plantation Days. Surely they knew
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:27 AM (zOTsN)
As for Polosi, I don't recall any Republicans going on that illegal visit to Iran during the Bush years. Will have to do some research.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:27 AM (wlDny)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2015 11:27 AM (W3hdj)
We've swap their bedbugs for lice and the pox. Let's see if he notices.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 11:27 AM (sWgE+)
Younger kid says " Nooo! I'm still in season 4!!!"
Not sure how I feel about this ...
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 11:27 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: chemjeff at March 12, 2015 11:28 AM (9GG/0)
Or else we can cry out please help me Erich Holder, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson. Save me I'm a little sheeple who is gender confused with an Ostrich.
Posted by: OSTB at March 12, 2015 11:28 AM (ShdUd)
The notion of a university off-campus, 24/7 honor code is just about as old and regional as SAE itself. It's part of the US university (pre-war) psyche, but it has not applied in decades. Right up there with the AAUW curfew rules, and riding in cars.
Universities should not be state actors, according to post-war notions of universities as "social institutions," and that's something states should think about before they establish universities. Foregone conclusion for state universities, because, A and M, and the Northwest Ordinance. Educationally, this is a very radical country, since right after the Constitution. And that ought to be reviewed, from time to time.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 12, 2015 11:28 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Al 'not so' Sharpton at March 12, 2015 11:28 AM (JgQLj)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:28 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Al 'not so' Sharpton at March 12, 2015 11:29 AM (JgQLj)
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 11:22 AM (MYCIw)
For what it's worth, I was talking to Boy BFF earlier this week and he told me that a friend of his in college was in SAE and Boy BFF claims that he distinctly remembers them singing that song. This was at a small college in PA and going on 20 years ago.
Now, knowing Boy BFF as I do, this could very well be a case of him deciding that he remembered something that didn't happen, but it could also be true. I was highly skeptical that he was remembering correctly until I saw other reports about it. Now I'd say that it's at least 50/50.
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:29 AM (mf5HN)
that way they are invoking federal law which will protect the universities actions
They are obviously in a bus going to some type of formal event. What the fuck does that have to do with a "learning environment" Were they even on campus?
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 11:29 AM (ZDJwC)
Though her visit conjured a strong rebuke by the White House, Syria seemed to welcome the 67-year-old California Democrat.
So she worked with Bush huh. Typical Democrat lie.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:29 AM (wlDny)
an agent of the state (because the nature of the association between
university and student is mutually voluntary), and therefore not subject
to the first amendment.
=======
Sorry man, there is a whole metric fuckton of case law against you on that. It's settled law.
You may be getting hung up on the quasi-contractual nature of the relationship. That is, in exchange for money, the university will provide an education upon certain terms, including complying with the code of conduct (which entails curtailing speech).
At a private institution, that's all well and good. Legal.
But, that's not what we have here.
If the state contracted out the issuance of driver's licenses to a third party and they denied driver's licenses to all blacks, is that legal?
It meets your test of neither compulsory nor guaranteed; it is a voluntary license. I am not required to have a driver's license and I am not guaranteed a driver's license; I choose to get one.
Also: To help you with whether the university is a state entity or not. Every single public university can and does claim sovereign immunity. As was the case in a very public case here locally when Tech fired Mike Leach.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 12, 2015 11:29 AM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: chemjeff at March 12, 2015 11:29 AM (9GG/0)
Jt Committee on Taxation: Obama tax refunds for illegal immigrants to cost $2 billion over 5 years http://wtim.es/1Dal2lk via @washtimes
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 12, 2015 11:30 AM (ZPrif)
I need to read his travel stuff. I like old travel writing. Off to Amazon...Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:25 AM (7ObY1)
RLS was/is one of my favorite authors - "Kidnapped" is still one of my all time favorites along with "Brotherhood of the Black Arrow". I even liked reading the old English dialogue, though I'd have to stop and think about it for a while to make sure I understood what they meant.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 12, 2015 11:30 AM (JkmfQ)
Posted by: Al 'not so' Sharpton at March 12, 2015 11:30 AM (JgQLj)
Because the MFM will never report it is why.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:30 AM (wlDny)
And those are valid concerns as well.
I am *not* saying (or not trying to say, at least) that the expulsion and closing of the frat house is just. I think the sheer speed with which these actions were taken speaks against that.
I am simply saying that I do not believe that (due process re: code of conduct/disciplinary policy having been followed), the school expelling any of these students would be a *First Amendment* issue.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:31 AM (kff5f)
Is your 13 yr old up to date with the current activities of ISI and Boko Haram? I can't imagine that anything in TWD is worse than that - although, the show is just so darn bleak that this might be a concern (wouldn't want it to inspiretoo muchpesimism/cynicysm about people in general).
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 11:31 AM (bdqzU)
10 questions for Bobby Jindal
And it starts
"1. Harwood:"
and I think this is going to be a Moron interview, but Hardwood is just the interviewer's name.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:31 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 12, 2015 11:31 AM (lG2E3)
Republicans write letter to dictator that Obama is working with = TREASON
Democrats go VISIT a dictator that Bush is opposing = PATRIOTISM
Posted by: chemjeff at March 12, 2015 11:32 AM (9GG/0)
Because she is a Clinton.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 11:32 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: chemjeff at March 12, 2015 11:28 AM (9GG/0)
Of course! In fact, you can have a pallet, a non-smallpoxed blanket *and* a pillow.
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:32 AM (mf5HN)
Jessica Vaughan @JessicaV_CIS
Jt Committee on Taxation: Obama tax refunds for illegal immigrants
to cost $2 billion over 5 years http://wtim.es/1Dal2lk via @washtimes
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 12, 2015 11:30 AM (ZPrif)
I posted a link a few weeks ago where the CBO said it would cost $30B over 10 years.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:32 AM (wlDny)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 12, 2015 11:32 AM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf at March 12, 2015 11:32 AM (qh617)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:32 AM (zOTsN)
Considering all the PC, all the rewritten history about evil America and all the castrating and brainwashing going on in our schools - full on for at least 25 years now - I'm shocked that these numbskulls from SAE even would consider saying what they said. What does that say about the effectiveness (or not) of the NEA indoctrination program?
And the fact they said it on camera is just incredibly stupid in and of itself.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2015 11:33 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: fairweatherbill looking for the sweet spot at March 12, 2015 11:33 AM (cNpuB)
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 11:22 AM
*removes hat*
Ook.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2015 11:33 AM (h4vJk)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 12, 2015 11:33 AM (2Aj5D)
And those are valid concerns as well.
I am *not* saying (or not trying to say, at least) that the expulsion and closing of the frat house is just. I think the sheer speed with which these actions were taken speaks against that.
I am simply saying that I do not believe that (due process re: code of conduct/disciplinary policy having been followed), the school expelling any of these students would be a *First Amendment* issue.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 11:31 AM (kff5f)
We understand what you are saying and we understand you are wrong.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2015 11:33 AM (MQEz6)
I'm not sure that alone means anything really. There are housing developments all over the south and southwest called Blah blah blah Plantation. I've always thought that was a bit odd (especially in Atlanta!) but apparently there's a large chunk of the world who is just fine with the word, regardless of connotations.
My guess is that the chant is not some official SAE chant, but rather something that someone made up and that spread and stayed because of the "forbidden word" angle.
It's like "Deck the hall with gasoline..fa la la la la la la la la la"
Who taught you that? Who knows. It certainly wasn't the school. But every child who's ever ridden on a school bus knows it.
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 11:33 AM (MYCIw)
Drunk and stupid is no way to go through life Son...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 12, 2015 11:34 AM (Bn6aD)
Of course! In fact, you can have a pallet, a non-smallpoxed blanket *and* a pillow.
You get a PILLOW while I clean Raptor pens in chains.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 11:34 AM (sWgE+)
Of course! In fact, you can have a pallet, a non-smallpoxed blanket *and* a pillow.
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:32 AM (mf5HN)
yay! smallpox free!
here is a present for you:
http://tinyurl.com/k3pe4z2
Posted by: chemjeff at March 12, 2015 11:34 AM (9GG/0)
Of course, I'm also not terribly hot on public universities (or schools) in the first place, and this is one of the reasons- it blurs lines which need to be straight and bright.
But I will continue to come back to the "voluntary association" piece. Either that means something, or it doesn't. If it does, then that means that either side *must* be able to dissolve that association. Given the contractual nature of the association, there are rules around such dissolution (so if, indeed, they violated their own procedures, that's a different ball of wax than what I thought), but those rules are agreed to mutually.
You do not have "voluntary association" with agents of the State, because all agents of the state (in theory) wield all the power of the State. The University clearly does (or at least: should) not.
Which brings us right back to that "blurred line" thing.
Allen, I think you're getting too in the weeds on this. There is no "voluntary exception" rule in 1A law. Whether it's attendance at a state-run University or residence in public housing, protections are just that...protections.
For instance, it certainly would *not* be OK to require that recipients of Section 8 housing could not criticize the government.
That isn't to say regulations can't exist, but that they pretty much have to tie back to state law. For instance, the OU Student Rights and Responsibilities code prohibits things like harassment, arson, perjurious statements, police/fire dept interference, stalking, hazing, sexual assault, and so on. These are things that are covered under state law. But there is no law against singing what those students sang.
In other words, the nature of the association has no bearing as to whether a state arm can override your Constitutional protection.
Another thought experiment...driving on public roads is voluntary. Do people who have driver's licenses lose their 1A rights as a condition of driving on those roads....?
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 12, 2015 11:35 AM (eytER)
Where's the black flowers?
Posted by: Al 'not so' Sharpton at March 12, 2015 11:28 AM (JgQLj)
i can't stop laughing crying....
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 12, 2015 11:35 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 12, 2015 11:34 AM (Bn6aD)
Now you tell me.
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 12, 2015 11:35 AM (JgQLj)
http://bit.ly/1MvT4C4
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:35 AM (wlDny)
*whistles the National Anthem of Alextopia whilst walking away*
*flag*
Unsportsmanlike pandering.
Five yards and loss of down.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:24 AM (JtwS4)
I'm reasonably certain that you're just peeved you didn't think of doing that first.
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 11:35 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:36 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:28 AM (VAsIq)
But Republicans are not a Race... so its OK to deride and target them...
Posted by: IRS Manager at March 12, 2015 11:36 AM (qh617)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 12, 2015 11:36 AM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2015 11:36 AM (8dwuI)
Posted by: EC at March 12, 2015 11:36 AM (GQ8sn)
Highway to Hell
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 11:37 AM (sWgE+)
They won't need to. An ample quiet settlement will be offered and accepted.
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 11:37 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 12, 2015 11:37 AM (lG2E3)
swinging from the chandelier
spilling menstrual juices into everybody's beer"
"Sing your balls to your partner, your ass against the wall,
you'll never get laid on Saturday night, you'll never get laid at all"
Fraternity song, no N word. I miss those days (not SAE, they were pussies)
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 11:37 AM (ZDJwC)
Posted by: EC
These Boots are Made for Stomping?
Posted by: fairweatherbill looking for the sweet spot at March 12, 2015 11:38 AM (cNpuB)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 12, 2015 11:38 AM (5Un6g)
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 12, 2015 11:39 AM (iQIUe)
The snow has melted away from the house enough to uncover the same wintercress that sprouted in December. After 3+ months of being buried in many feet of snow, it's still as green as ever and looks exactly like it did in December.
It's related to the Mustard Plant family and is quite tasty.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:39 AM (7ObY1)
Oh.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:39 AM (VAsIq)
their families are not having their homes protested by mobs. they have had to move out of their homes. They are taking this very painful medicine
I am not sure these young men would have sung this song or engaged in cavalier racism like they did if they had joined another fraternity
I will be very surprised to hear the frat sang this song during rush week and the pledges knew what they were getting in to
still, they are responsible for their own behavior. They are taking the consequences. The frat should be closed and it is. The national fraternity, if it had any integrity, would have dealt with this issue decades ago. They clearly did not.
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:40 AM (zOTsN)
Is your 13 yr old up to date with the current activities of ISI and Boko Haram? I can't imagine that anything in TWD is worse than that - although, the show is just so darn bleak that this might be a concern (wouldn't want it to inspiretoo muchpesimism/cynicysm about people in general).
--
She's aware, in a general way.
I guess it explains why she was asking, a couple of days ago, if there had to be an apocalypse, what kind of an apocalypse would I prefer.
I don't think she's gotten to the crazy lizzie storyline yet, I think I'll talk to her now to feelher put on what she thinks of the horrible stuff that happens to kids and nice people on the show.
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 11:40 AM (cbfNE)
A little dramatic, no?
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2015 11:41 AM (yty4o)
Posted by: EC at March 12, 2015 11:36 AM (GQ8sn
Born To Be Wild
Heart of Gold
And her favorite Blues Band is Jim Lieben and Short Stuff
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 12, 2015 11:42 AM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:42 AM (VAsIq)
Now I'm back and I see all these headlines about Hillary and emails.
Can someone give me a 3 sentence story what happened?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 12, 2015 11:42 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 11:42 AM (cbfNE)
What Pelousi means by "bipartisan" was that there were a few quisling
Republican congresscritters who went with her on that trip. But yeah,
the trip was absolutely opposed by Bush.
Republicans write letter to dictator that Obama is working with = TREASON
Democrats go VISIT a dictator that Bush is opposing = PATRIOTISM
Posted by: chemjeff at March 12, 2015 11:32 AM (9GG/0)
That article I linked had no mention of Republicans. I think she and her staff are the only ones that went.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:42 AM (wlDny)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:43 AM (VAsIq)
It would have to be a short song.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 11:43 AM (sWgE+)
There's too many of you suing
Brother, sister, daughter
There's far too many of you suing
What's going on (what's going on)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:43 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at March 12, 2015 11:43 AM (TPjwz)
There's a nice little section in the history museum at Biloxi about the important role that free (not freed, but non-slave) blacks played in their frontier society, before plantation culture made slavery economically viable there. And Georgia, of course, had plantations galore but never had slavery before the nation was founded. Now, that's because it was a penal colony, but, whatever.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 12, 2015 11:43 AM (xq1UY)
There's too many of you suing
Brother, sister, daughter
There's far too many of you suing
What's going on (what's going on
And I always thought Marvin Gaye was Gay
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 12, 2015 11:44 AM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 11:44 AM (qTPeM)
I guess it explains why she was asking, a couple of days ago, if
there had to be an apocalypse, what kind of an apocalypse would I
prefer.
I don't think she's gotten to the crazy lizzie storyline yet, I
think I'll talk to her now to feelher put on what she thinks of the
horrible stuff that happens to kids and nice people on the show.
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 11:40 AM (cbfNE)
I think some people are more upset about some of the more recent human deaths than they might realize. Which is understandable. They can be very hard to take.
Personally I think the most recent one was handled so beautifully, I understand how it can be painful to watch, but it was great great television.
I'm not specifying who or how, because I know some people have not seen it, but I believe you know who/what I am talking about.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 11:44 AM (TOk1P)
"Boy BFF claims that he distinctly remembers them singing that song. "
I don't know enough about SAE to know. I think we have relics in our society of another age. I remember some pretty racist chant that somehow got into my head, even though I grew up in the 80's.
I have concerns with the university getting that involved in something that happened off campus and didn't actually hurt anyone. Stuff you do and say at work or at school should be treated differently than stuff you do or say at home or off campus, imo. We seem to be, as a society, blurring the lines a bit too much for my taste. The SAE nationalhas every right to shut the chapter down and some sort of probation or suspension or even mandatory training might be in order for the students, but expulsion seems a bit too far. The only think that might merit that is the allusion to hanging, although I don't think that would legally rise to the level of threat.
Posted by: Lea at March 12, 2015 11:44 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
-----
Hillary Clinton set up her own private server so she could avoid her emails being subject to FOIA, she got caught, and she's lying about everything because she's a Clinton and a Democrat.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:44 AM (VAsIq)
Yeah, we've been following the Eglin accident news here too. Pooky was out there not that long ago and has a lot of respect for the guys there. But you're right, the military cutbacks of the last several years have been very shortsighted. It's been a total roller coaster ride for Pooky's unit as they're trying to figure out long-term solutions.
Posted by: pookysgirl is supposed to be resting at March 12, 2015 11:45 AM (dCUzJ)
Hillary didn't have a *.gov email address, ran State from *.clintonemail, housed on her own private server.
Delivered subpoenaed records on paper. Claims she turned over all official stuff. Deleted "personal" stuff.
Then started lying about just about everything.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:45 AM (JtwS4)
Eeny-meeney-miney-mo?
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:45 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 12, 2015 11:46 AM (JkmfQ)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 12, 2015 11:42 AM (0LHZx)
No.
Go away again.
Now.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 11:46 AM (TOk1P)
"Blurred lines" evokes a "feel" of the '70's , and it sounds like more than just Gaye's song. There's a David Bowie song from the same era--"Golden Years?"--that has a similar feel, and also some others whose titles I can't think of right now.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2015 11:46 AM (yty4o)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:48 AM (zOTsN)
Hillary didn't have a *.gov email address, ran State from *.clintonemail, housed on her own private server.
Delivered subpoenaed records on paper. Claims she turned over all official stuff. Deleted "personal" stuff.
Then started lying about just about everything.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 11:45 AM (JtwS4)
_______________
Ahh. Thanks.
And outside of the blogs, does anyone give a fuck? Or is this a "scandal" the way Gruber was a scandal, ie you didn't know it existed if all you watched was CNN and ABC Nightly news?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 12, 2015 11:48 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 11:48 AM (cbfNE)
--
There is a racist version of that.
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 11:48 AM (cbfNE)
I'm 45 years old and I only heard that version about 3-4 years ago.
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (ZDJwC)
repercussions in the music industry. Coming on the heels of the Sam
Smith/ Tom Petty "settlement"--an even worse travesty, expect more of
the same. Just like with most litigation, the problem is the sympathetic
juries.
"Blurred lines" evokes a "feel" of the '70's , and it
sounds like more than just Gaye's song. There's a David Bowie song from
the same era--"Golden Years?"--that has a similar feel, and also some
others whose titles I can't think of right now.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2015 11:46 AM (yty4o)
My sweet lord, what is the music industry coming to? By the way, Marvin Gaye says hi. He's not gay, but he is so fine.
Posted by: Zombie George Harrison at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (TOk1P)
Oh yeah. Even many on the left have their knives out. For now, anyway.
Posted by: Golfman - We Have No Hill at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (iVjJr)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:42 AM (wlDny)
warning: NYT link
http://tinyurl.com/ky2f2pl
towards the bottom
Posted by: chemjeff at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (wlDny)
There's also a raaaaacist name for Brazil nuts.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (JkmfQ)
Y'know, I hadn't noticed that before, but yep, "Golden Years" does have a similar feel.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 11:48 AM (cbfNE)
I'm 45 years old and I only heard that version about 3-4 years ago.
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (ZDJwC)
I never knew about it until the Jeremy Clarkson thing.
Posted by: Mainah at March 12, 2015 11:50 AM (659DL)
--
There is a racist version of that.
Eeny-meeney-miney-ho,
Catch an STD on your toe....
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 11:50 AM (qTPeM)
Posted by: Timon
-----
Learned that song as a three-year-old in Texas.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:50 AM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 12, 2015 11:50 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (JkmfQ)
I also didn't know that until a good friend, who is a die hard democrat, told me a few years ago.
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 11:50 AM (ZDJwC)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:50 AM (VAsIq)
I guess that's the difference between Texas and the Pittsburgh suburbs.
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 11:51 AM (ZDJwC)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 12, 2015 11:51 AM (Bn6aD)
http://tinyurl.com/o2ufuzv
Posted by: Horny Badger at March 12, 2015 11:51 AM (2i576)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:52 AM (wlDny)
237 There's a David Bowie song from the same era--"Golden Years?"--that has a similar feel,
Y'know, I hadn't noticed that before, but yep, "Golden Years" does have a similar feel.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:49 AM (7ObY1)
Hey..... really????
Is he rich???
/speed dials her lawyer
Posted by: Marvin Gaye's Daughter at March 12, 2015 11:52 AM (qh617)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 11:52 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 11:52 AM (VAsIq)
Probably not since the MSM is being sure to ignore the truly worrisome part of Hillary's cutesy email server:
* It's not a stretch to infer that she did this setup to facilitate communications amonst Hillary's top staff and the Clinton Global Initiative, since there's evidence that countries would "donate" a huge sum to CGI and the Hillary would do something favorable for them at State.
* The email server was likely not sufficiently secured, so that it's likely AMerica's enemies have been spying on Hillary's (and her topp aide's on the smae email server) communications on classified national security topics.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 11:52 AM (bdqzU)
The other day I read that Radiohead and the authors of the Hollie's hit quietly reached a settlement a few years ago, and now share writing credit and royalties.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2015 11:52 AM (yty4o)
Posted by: Timon at March 12, 2015 11:53 AM (ZDJwC)
As far as I knew, the rayciss version was the ONLY version. I was probably in my 20s before I knew there was another version.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:53 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2015 11:54 AM (yty4o)
Posted by: Baldy at March 12, 2015 11:55 AM (sEXjW)
So a mere mention of Plantations isn't exactly a moral disqualifier.
Then, there's this: http://www.shackupinn.com/
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 12, 2015 11:56 AM (xq1UY)
I was so innocent I thought it was complimentary - i.e. ran really fast, like Olympic athletes..
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2015 11:57 AM (cbfNE)
besides WD-40, which doesn't seem to be working, is there something
liquid (as opposed to me scrubbing with a wire brush which is out of
question) white/blue deposits on house radiator nuts? Radiators have not
been bled literally for decades. Trying to do some work on them t save
mom some $$$
Posted by: Baldy at March 12, 2015 11:55 AM (sEXjW)
Oil of wintergreen is the best nut/bolt breaker there is.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:58 AM (wlDny)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 11:45 AM (7ObY1)"NO, I only heard the tiger version of that one as a kid. The one I'm talking about begins with 'fight fight'.
Posted by: Lea at March 12, 2015 11:58 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 11:59 AM (zOTsN)
Suddenly, I remember that teethcleaning I had scheduled. Half-hour reminder and it's at least fifteen minutes drive from home to dentist. I might not have flossed thoroughly. But, what the heck, it was a cleaning, right?
New hygeinist is daughter of a dentist; teeth run in their family. She said I seemed to be doing okay. Told her, now that you've seen inside my head, let me ask: I'm in my 60s and my plan is to go another 60, so, whattaya think, will my (remaining) teeth hang in there? She said, as long as you take care of them; that's what they're designed to do, last a lifetime. Yay!
Greatest feeling ever, post-Dentist cleaning visit. Never lasts long. Oooh! Wife made cookies! ...
Posted by: mindful webworker - look ma! no cavities! at March 12, 2015 12:00 PM (UYkjZ)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 12:00 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Anti-Semite at March 12, 2015 12:02 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Anti-Semite at March 12, 2015 12:02 PM (Zu3d9)
I had a response to your post about the DL office, but I'm also working-at-work, and it got all garbled.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 12:03 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Anti-Semite at March 12, 2015 12:02 PM (Zu3d9)
Yes, I keep a small jar in my tool box. I was introduced to this when I was an MM in the Navy.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 12:05 PM (wlDny)
Posted by: Dianna at March 12, 2015 12:07 PM (DV/Ik)
Posted by: Dianna at March 12, 2015 12:08 PM (DV/Ik)
Barely. A one-sentence essay. Hardly worth leaving the art thread for. But then, I just got back.
Posted by: mindful webworker - look ma! no cavities! at March 12, 2015 12:10 PM (UYkjZ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2015 12:28 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: Baldy at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (sEXjW)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 11:58 AM (wlDny) - THANK you Vic. Now just hve to find who sells it
Posted by: Baldy at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (sEXjW)
Grocery stores carry it.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 12:53 PM (wlDny)
----- Grocery stores? OK. See no evidence online but will look at store Thanks
Posted by: Baldy at March 12, 2015 12:59 PM (sEXjW)
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