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Weekend Thread: SOOie! Iowa Ag Summit [Y-not]

Many of the 2016 GOP hopefuls attended the Iowa Agricultural Summit this weekend.

Some were well-received:

(More here)

Some... not so much:

Heh.

You can read more about the Ag Summit at the Washington Examiner.

By the way, it's been reported that Scott Walker now supports the federal ethanol mandate:

In the moderated discussion with ethanol entrepreneur Bruce Rastetter, Walker dropped his flat opposition to ethanol mandates, a new stance that's well suited to a state covered in cornfields. Instead, Walker signaled he favored keeping the mandate for now and phasing it out over time.

"I do believe it's an access issue so it's something I'm willing to go forward on renewing a (federal) Renewable Fuel Standard...so farmers going forward planting crops know what the standard is," Walker said, adding that he wanted to "get to a point where you address some of those market access issues...so you no longer need some of the subsidies."

If so, this seems to differ from his earlier position. (Link to the Saturday Politics Thread on ethanol here.)

Meanwhile, here's a brief report on how Rick Perry was received. (He still opposes a Federal ethanol mandate.)


Open thread.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:27 PM




Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 Ethanol sucks.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 11:29 AM (FMbng)

2 Jebba the Hut shall be my Interior Secretary. Also, Exterior Secretary and Around the House Secretary.

Suck it, peons.

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 08, 2015 11:30 AM (92L+g)

3 Bring me your seed corn and I'll make you some nice cornbread.

Posted by: t-bird at March 08, 2015 11:30 AM (FcR7P)

4 Jindal skipped it, unfortunately, so we didn't get to see what he had to say. I read somewhere that 6 of the 9 GOP "hopefuls" (a list that included people we've already dumped, like Huckabee) supported the ethanol mandate.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 11:31 AM (9BRsg)

5 So does Walker not swallow or spit?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 11:32 AM (0FSuD)

6 Someone please queue up some Bruce Stringbean. That'll win 'em over.

Posted by: Christy Christie at March 08, 2015 11:32 AM (Dwehj)

7 Now swallow, or spit. Sell out not impressive

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 11:33 AM (0FSuD)

8 Well, that's another strike against Walker. He tries to walk back his "pathway to citizenship" (amnesty) and promises the corn belt to keep the BS ethanol mandates that do nothing but destroy small engines.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 11:33 AM (wlDny)

9 I know I left my car keys around here somewhere...

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 08, 2015 11:33 AM (92L+g)

10 I'll throw in my two bits on McDonald's coffee on this thread:

It's generally good when it's fresh, but McDonald's ain't Starbucks, so don't walk in there at two in the afternoon when they haven't touched their coffee pot since 10AM and expect it to be drinkable.

Posted by: JEM at March 08, 2015 11:34 AM (o+SC1)

11 When Christie got on the stage suddenly an auction started.

Posted by: eman at March 08, 2015 11:35 AM (MQEz6)

12 I gotta say that on purely an emotional level I wish Cruz could be our nominee.

I don't think it's going to happen, but of all of the 2016 prospects whose names we've bandied about, he's the one I "like" the best on visceral level.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 11:35 AM (9BRsg)

13 Phasing ethanol out is fine. As long as it's truly phased out.

Posted by: Soona at March 08, 2015 11:36 AM (lhUpX)

14 Iowa: where candidates for national office go and pretend they give a damn about Iowa.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2015 11:36 AM (Dj0WE)

15 13
Phasing ethanol out is fine. As long as it's truly phased out.

Posted by: Soona at March 08, 2015 11:36 AM (lhUpX)

The market distortions are amazing. It should go. It eats up your hoses and it sucks

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 11:37 AM (0FSuD)

16 How about we put forth a rumor.

Corn fields designated for ethanol production are planted above fracking areas.
The small amount of chemicals from fracking which leach into the water table are absorbed by the corn plants.
Once converted into ethanol. the chemicals are entrained in the liquid, where it is then converted into vapors which the automobile catalytic converter converts into positive energy thoughts.

Ultimately harmless, and helps unicorns to develop strong muscles.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 11:37 AM (4aQaK)

17 i love cruz.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 08, 2015 11:37 AM (u8GsB)

18 Most U.S. Americans can't even find Iowa on their maps.

Posted by: Miss Teen U.S. America at March 08, 2015 11:38 AM (Dwehj)

19 Zombie Spock says ethanol subsides are illogical.

Posted by: eman at March 08, 2015 11:38 AM (MQEz6)

20 Each gallon of ethanol costs about 1.2 gallons of oil and delivers 80% of the energy a gallon of gas. For every gallon of ethanol we import MORE oil AND it destroys engines.

Posted by: Jukin at March 08, 2015 11:38 AM (WGm5T)

21 I want a candidate who speaks with clarity because he (or she) really believes what he's saying.

I'll accept a candidate who panders to me on a three major issues.

I'll get stuck with a career politician who is going to betray me the second he gets in the White House.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 11:39 AM (9BRsg)

22 The "Ag" thread?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 11:39 AM (vvS6Q)

23 AND it destroys engines

Now you're catching on!

Posted by: The Leftard Enviroweenies at March 08, 2015 11:40 AM (Dwehj)

24
18 Most U.S. Americans can't even find Iowa on their maps.
Posted by: Miss Teen U.S. America at March 08, 2015 11:38 AM (Dwehj)

No beaches, Dude.

Posted by: eman at March 08, 2015 11:40 AM (MQEz6)

25 I have an ethanol server at my foundation that nobody knows about.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 08, 2015 11:40 AM (WGm5T)

26 18 Most U.S. Americans can't even find Iowa on their maps.
Posted by: Miss Teen U.S. America at March 08, 2015 11:38 AM (Dwehj)


------------------


I've met some who think it's a city somewhere.

Posted by: Soona at March 08, 2015 11:41 AM (lhUpX)

27 Dang. I was just getting my hopes up that Walker was our best chance for a broad win.

On the other hand, this could be pragmatism. Incrementalism got the left to where they are today. There are some issues where all-or-nothing is the best strategy. Perhaps phasing out farm and ethanol subsidies is the best we can hope for in the real world.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 08, 2015 11:41 AM (WdLYX)

28 Ethanol is racist.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at March 08, 2015 11:41 AM (WGm5T)

29 >>Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 08, 2015 11:37 AM

Basically, yeah.

I don't see how he wins the nomination, unfortunately.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 11:42 AM (9BRsg)

30 Iowa part of Canada, but the Civil War shit changed it, Dude.

Posted by: eman at March 08, 2015 11:42 AM (MQEz6)

31 I like trains. they go CHOO-CHOOOOOOO!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 08, 2015 11:43 AM (WGm5T)

32 Most U.S. Americans can't even find Iowa on their maps.
Posted by: Miss Teen U.S. America at March 08, 2015 11:38 AM (Dwehj)


Here, this will help: it is Missouri's hat.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2015 11:44 AM (Dj0WE)

33 Democrats, RINOs, and illegals will pick the GOP nominee.

We get to watch from way in the back.

Posted by: eman at March 08, 2015 11:44 AM (MQEz6)

34 I thought a Missouri was one of those schools for really smart little kids.

Posted by: Miss Teen U.S. America at March 08, 2015 11:45 AM (Dwehj)

35 Not many people know this but I invented ethanol.

Posted by: Brian Williams at March 08, 2015 11:46 AM (WGm5T)

36 >>Democrats, RINOs, and illegals will pick the GOP nominee.

*Ahem*

We've picked Jeb Bush for you.
You're welcome.

Posted by: MSM at March 08, 2015 11:46 AM (lHHyw)

37 I still believe the MFM and the GOPe will elect both prez candidates. We don't have any say anymore of who aspires to the throne.

Posted by: Soona at March 08, 2015 11:46 AM (lhUpX)

38 Dang. I was just getting my hopes up that Walker was our best chance for a broad win.

On the other hand, this could be pragmatism. Incrementalism got the left to where they are today. There are some issues where all-or-nothing is the best strategy. Perhaps phasing out farm and ethanol subsidies is the best we can hope for in the real world.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 08, 2015 11:41 AM (WdLYX)


Iowa makes candidates go up there and mouth a phallic shaped corn covered piece of meat.


They're not even remotely hiding the symbolism. What is hard to understand is why national candidates still believe they have to do it.


One of these years I would like to see a candidate refuse to go up there, and openly talk about how idiotic it is we let our national election be held hostage to a backward, big government loving bunch of hillbilly communists.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2015 11:47 AM (Dj0WE)

39 Chris Christie Fun Fact: While most Iowa green energy projects focus on efficiently turning corn into ethanol, the New Jersey governor is solely interested in turning corn in to methane.

Posted by: Fritz at March 08, 2015 11:48 AM (dVmLD)

40 Most U.S. Americans can't even find Iowa on their maps.
Posted by: Miss Teen U.S. America at March 08, 2015 11:38 AM (Dwehj)


Everyone can find Texas, so bite it, bitchez!

Having said that, I once had an extended business trip to De Moines and enjoyed the town and the people.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 08, 2015 11:48 AM (WdLYX)

41 If the Republicans are smart they will pick Mitt Romney ahem I mean John Mccain ahem I mean Jeb Bush, the one who will win. - Everyone who wants the democrats to win.

Posted by: Dustin at March 08, 2015 11:49 AM (a7sQX)

42 Why is my clock running so fast today?

Posted by: Miss Teen U.S. America at March 08, 2015 11:49 AM (Dwehj)

43 "Why is my clock running so fast today?"


Well, go catch it, sweetie, before it gets away.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 11:51 AM (vvS6Q)

44 Actually, phasing out does make sense from a planning standpoint. As long as it's not a 50 year phaseout or some such nonsense. 3 years would be more than ample time for the farmers, and markets to adjust.

Posted by: Mr. Natural at March 08, 2015 11:52 AM (/pOl7)

45 Oh, that's right...the U.S. Americans are saving daylight before it becomes extincted.

Posted by: Miss Teen U.S. America at March 08, 2015 11:52 AM (Dwehj)

46 I'm not a Christie fan, so I get some enjoyment out of watching him squirm, but isn't it strange that when Bush is president, the president is to blame for hurricane issues, but when President Amnesty takes office, hurricane issues are a governor's responsibility?

Posted by: Ted K. at March 08, 2015 11:53 AM (vggcB)

47 Walker's phase out idea sounds similar to Jindal's plan. Difference is that Jindal laid out a detailed, comprehensive energy plan already, whereas Walker acted like he opposed Fed ethanol standards until he was sitting in Iowa pandering to voters.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 11:53 AM (9BRsg)

48 I love when daylight savings time starts. It's like the immediate prelude to spring. And being a night worker, it gives me more daylight to enjoy.

Posted by: Soona at March 08, 2015 11:54 AM (lhUpX)

49 >>Posted by: Ted K. at March 08, 2015 11:53 AM

Yeah, I had the same reaction.

I don't want Christie - AT ALL - but I think the protesters were jackholes.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 11:55 AM (9BRsg)

50 Well, if there's any silver-lining to Walker "evolving" on subsidies it is that he looks serious about running.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 11:56 AM (vvS6Q)

51 Posted by: Ted K. at March 08, 2015 11:53 AM

Yeah, I had the same reaction.

I don't want Christie - AT ALL - but I think the protesters were jackholes.
Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 11:55 AM (9BRsg)


Protesters are always jackholes. And Christie is good at responding to them, even when they are paid reporters. It's his one virtue. Other than that though...

Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2015 11:57 AM (Dj0WE)

52 48 I love when daylight savings time starts. It's like the immediate prelude to spring. And being a night worker, it gives me more daylight to enjoy.

Agreed. In fact I'd like it if it just stayed DST all the time. More time to golf after work. More normal daylight hours. Who cares if it's dark when you get for work. At least more daylight at the end of the work day would be less depressing.

Posted by: Mr. Natural at March 08, 2015 11:57 AM (/pOl7)

53 I think I'll go for a walk!

Posted by: Mr. Natural at March 08, 2015 11:58 AM (/pOl7)

54 So I see O'Malley is now the darling of the media.... What is He like? I know He must be bad because .... Dem., I just don't know anything about Him...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 08, 2015 11:59 AM (Bn6aD)

55 "Agreed. In fact I'd like it if it just stayed DST all the time."


Someone suggesting to me before that it would be better if they'd just adjust the time a half-hour and be done with it. I thought that a good idea.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 11:59 AM (vvS6Q)

56 OK who is Amanda Carpenter her twitter fed makes her look hot.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 11:59 AM (0FSuD)

57 " What is He like? I know He must be bad because .... Dem.,"


Well, he signed a law taxing rainfall on your property, so, pretty much crap.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 12:00 PM (vvS6Q)

58 I hate it when they change the language so that words mean something different.


Like Affordable now means Unaffordable




And six a.m. now means five a.m.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 08, 2015 12:01 PM (NeFrd)

59 >>OK who is Amanda Carpenter her twitter fed makes her look hot.

Ted Cruz's communications director, I think.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 12:02 PM (9BRsg)

60 The question is "would moving Iowa down to the missle of the pack since they are at best a purple State allow us to get rid of farm subsidies?".


The overwhelming amount of farm subsidies go to the big corporate farming companies like ADM. What is even worse they have mixed the food stamp welfare into the farm bills now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 12:02 PM (wlDny)

61 Today is a watch collector nightmare. BUT you do get to play with all your watches.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 12:02 PM (0FSuD)

62 Nothing like burning your feed supply to prop up farmers.

Posted by: huerfano at March 08, 2015 12:02 PM (bAGA/)

63 Well, that's another strike against Walker. He tries to walk back his "pathway to citizenship" (amnesty) and promises the corn belt to keep the BS ethanol mandates that do nothing but destroy small engines.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 11:33 AM (wlDny)


I think it goes beyond small engines. Pretty much anything with a carburetor. Especially if it sits for any length of time. Motorcycle carbs get trashed with that shit. The jets clog over time.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 12:02 PM (FMbng)

64 I'm gonna tax your precious bodily fluids...

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 08, 2015 12:02 PM (92L+g)

65 Agreed. In fact I'd like it if it just stayed DST all the time. More time to golf after work. More normal daylight hours. Who cares if it's dark when you get for work. At least more daylight at the end of the work day would be less depressing.
Posted by: Mr. Natural at March 08, 2015 11:57 AM (/pOl7)



--------------------


The excuse they give for changing it back during the winter is so the chillrens don't have to cross streets in the dark on their way to daily indoctrination.

Posted by: Soona at March 08, 2015 12:03 PM (lhUpX)

66 Obama: "I found out about Hillary's private email the same way everybody else did. I heard it on the news."

http://tinyurl.com/op4z6va

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 08, 2015 12:03 PM (BZAd3)

67 All subisidies are welfare.

You can't call yourself a conservative and be for them.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 08, 2015 12:04 PM (lGNaU)

68 I loved not observing DST where we were in Indiana. Then they changed it and, even more stupidly, most of IN went with the Eastern time zone instead of the Central.

I find it so jarring to have to skip ahead an hour.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 12:05 PM (9BRsg)

69 Are contributions to a Daylight Savings Account (DSA) considered tax deductible?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 08, 2015 12:06 PM (NeFrd)

70 "I think it goes beyond small engines. Pretty much anything with a carburetor. Especially if it sits for any length of time. Motorcycle carbs get trashed with that shit. The jets clog over time."

We use stabilizer in Mrs VIA's Vespa two stroker year round because of that crap.
Of course, I could drive up to York PA, and get ethanol free gas at one particular gas station right off of Rt 30, and bring it back.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 12:06 PM (4aQaK)

71 Obama: "I found out about Hillary's private email the same way everybody else did. I heard it on the news."

http://tinyurl.com/op4z6va

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 08, 2015 12:03 PM (BZAd3)


Shocked. The Sargent Shultz administration. The fucker never knows anything going on around him. This imbecile can't find his ass with both hands.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 12:06 PM (FMbng)

72 Where are Rockin' Rick Santorum and T-Paw? I bet Poppin' Fresh haz a sad 'cause they're not mixin' it up among the corn-people....

I was not -- and still am not -- impressed by Walker. As far as I'm concerned, the only candidates I could support without throwing up a little in my mouth are Perry and Cruz. And that could change depending on what they say during the next year.

If any of the other goombies are selected instead, I may vote for them. But I won't like it. The only exceptions are teh Jebster and Chris Crusty. If they get the nomination, I'll be out of town on election day.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 08, 2015 12:09 PM (P8YHq)

73 arizona agreed to dst as one condition to become a state...we became a state and then eliminated it. i've enjoyed the last 13yrs of not having to worry about it...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 08, 2015 12:09 PM (u8GsB)

74 I find it so jarring to have to skip ahead an hour.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 12:05 PM (9BRsg)

Blame it on the cows and the RR's

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 12:10 PM (0FSuD)

75 71 Shocked. The Sargent Shultz administration. The
fucker never knows anything going on around him. This imbecile can't
find his ass with both hands.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 12:06 PM (FMbng)

One of the sites I linked in the news this morning showed where Obama was lying on that score. He plainly knew about it. Teapot Dome was "Tempest in the Teapot" compared to crime lords Clinton and Obama.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 12:10 PM (wlDny)

76 >>>There are neighborhoods that it's easier for you to buy a handgun and clips than it is to for you to buy a fresh vegetable.<<<

Does President Funnyface not realize that we're burning fresh corn in our armored-up suburbans and escalades?

Posted by: Fritz at March 08, 2015 12:11 PM (dVmLD)

77 It all starts to make sense now.

The Big Corn Lobby has become unified and is morphing into UniCorn.

Connect the dots, people!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 08, 2015 12:12 PM (NeFrd)

78 I have been saying for decades, I don't care if you call noon midnight, just stop tampering with the effing clocks.

Especially since they keep changing the damned day it happens on as well.

Changing the clock to get more daylight is like cutting off your head and standing on it so you can see farther.

I think it comes down to the kind of person who thinks they will die if they can't get their fat grubbies in someone else's business. They can't be bothered to change their own schedule if they think they should, they want the government to change everyone's schedule.

*Millions* of man-hours later, a few entertainment complexes and shopping malls can lobby to keep it in place because so few of the millions of opponents will take the time to speak against it.

It stands as a shining example of busybody government, though, so I guess there's that.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 08, 2015 12:12 PM (bLnSU)

79 We use stabilizer in Mrs VIA's Vespa two stroker year round because of that crap.
Of course, I could drive up to York PA, and get ethanol free gas at one particular gas station right off of Rt 30, and bring it back.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 12:06 PM (4aQaK)



--------------------------


There are five stations within two miles of my house the sells no-ethanol gas. It's more expensive though. Something I've never understood.

Posted by: Soona at March 08, 2015 12:12 PM (lhUpX)

80 Colin Powell that super Conservative Rep. says the Republican party is still racist.. .

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 08, 2015 12:13 PM (Bn6aD)

81 "Pretty much anything with a carburetor. Especially if it sits for any length of time."



I haven't noticed any trouble with any of my small motors and I don't treat them. They're all less than ten years old and have operating on the assumption they are ethanol compliant.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 12:13 PM (vvS6Q)

82 >>>There are neighborhoods that it's easier for you to buy a handgun and clips than it is to for you to buy a fresh vegetable.

And yet somehow, I wind up living in a veritable gun desert.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 12:14 PM (4aQaK)

83 >>Blame it on the cows and the RR's

IIRC during the Indiana debate the argument was based on two things: golfing (I kid you not) and being in the same time zone as NYC.

It was a real disappointment to me when it passed.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 12:14 PM (9BRsg)

84 Teapot Dome was "Tempest in the Teapot" compared to crime lords Clinton and Obama. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 12:10 PM

IMO, BOTH Clintons are pillars of morality when compared to Choom Boy.

Not even Woodrow Wilson can hold a candle to the racism, arrogance and hatred for America that currently emanate from the White House.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 08, 2015 12:14 PM (P8YHq)

85 It all starts to make sense now.

The Big Corn Lobby has become unified and is morphing into UniCorn.

Connect the dots, people!
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 08, 2015 12:12 PM (NeFrd)


Unicorn?? What's your point?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2015 12:14 PM (Dj0WE)

86 " Something I've never understood."


Sorta like getting charged for having the phone book not list your number.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 12:15 PM (vvS6Q)

87 While only a few of you missed Obama's historic speech on race in Selma, I must confess my favorite part of Dear Leader's speech was when he teared up as he quoted noted intellectual Sheryl Crow when he said; "If it's brown, flush it down. If it's yellow, let it mellow." Truly a touching tribute to the millions of environmentalists and other communists actively working to collapse the country.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at March 08, 2015 12:15 PM (BLFGI)

88 "There are five stations within two miles of my house the sells no-ethanol gas."

There are a few websites that track the availability, and location of real gas.
sadly, nothing closer for me.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 12:15 PM (4aQaK)

89 Hey, phxazgrl, why aren't you sitting at the ballpark enjoying Spring Training?!!

If I lived in AZ I'd spend the entire month of March parked Scottsdale stadium... drunk off my ass. lol

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 12:16 PM (9BRsg)

90 Unicorn?? What's your point?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2015 12:14 PM


Why you tryin' to horn in on his gag?

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 08, 2015 12:16 PM (P8YHq)

91 "While only a few of you missed Obama's historic speech on race in Selma, "


I can't say that I "missed" it, Bob.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 12:17 PM (vvS6Q)

92 The Sargent Shultz administration.


*****

OT- My wife and I watched a couple old episodes of "The Virginian" yesterday.

One of them had Sergeant Schultz as the maitre d' at a fancy Chicago restaurant. He all but did the over-the-top German accent, only it sounded vaguely British.

The other episode had Bones McCoy (DeForrest Kelley) as a cavalry doctor and Leonard Nimoy as an outlaw who came under the medical care at the Fort Infirmary. The Nimoy character died while under the care of the McCoy character. I thought that was ironic given the news last week.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 08, 2015 12:17 PM (NeFrd)

93 All sorts of out-of-the-ordinary aircraft flying over my house today.

Posted by: Soona at March 08, 2015 12:17 PM (lhUpX)

94 If everybody saves daylight, nobody saves daylight.

/Truisms

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 08, 2015 12:18 PM (NeFrd)

95 83 IIRC during the Indiana debate the argument was
based on two things: golfing (I kid you not) and being in the same time
zone as NYC.



It was a real disappointment to me when it passed.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 12:14 PM (9BRsg)

Back when I played golf it was nice because you could get in 18 holes after work. But I have never actually liked it. And it is a huge scam. It saves nothing. It just trades what part of the day has sunlight. And the real kicker is that even if it did save an hour of electric lights that is almost a non-existent fraction of the average energy use in a house.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 12:18 PM (wlDny)

96 >>93 All sorts of out-of-the-ordinary aircraft flying over my house today.

*slides spray bottle of vinegar and case of tin foil through the USB*

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 12:18 PM (9BRsg)

97 Unicorn?? What's your point?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2015 12:14 PM

Why you tryin' to horn in on his gag?
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 08, 2015 12:16 PM (P8YHq)


I'm just horsing around, I guess.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2015 12:19 PM (Dj0WE)

98 Welp, you folks have fun. Going to go try a new (for us) dim sum place in Salt Lake. Finding decent Chinese food around here is nigh on impossible. Hoping this place doesn't disappoint.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 12:19 PM (9BRsg)

99 So, Boko Haram has pledged allegiance to ISIS.

Thankfully these guys are just JV and we have them on the run.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 08, 2015 12:21 PM (/cvEu)

100 Disapointed in walker but I get this is part of the game. Pretty insignificant part of America's challenges and it would be nice not to have to write off Iowa in a general election


Much more concerned with amnesty talk than ethanol bs.

Posted by: Tracer at March 08, 2015 12:22 PM (xhYmA)

101 Walker will sign Right to Work in Wisconsin on Monday..

Which state is next?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 08, 2015 12:23 PM (ZPrif)

102 " All sorts of out-of-the-ordinary aircraft flying over my house today.
"


Can you elaborate? Have you experienced any missing time?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 12:24 PM (vvS6Q)

103

1 Ethanol sucks.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 11:29 AM (FMbng


BANHAMMER!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, eyes bottle of home-brew lovingly at March 08, 2015 12:25 PM (cZOkr)

104 Much more concerned with amnesty talk than ethanol bs.

Posted by: Tracer at March 08, 2015 12:22 PM


It all adds up. You have to wonder what a guy who panders on the small stuff will do with the Big Issues. Walker has already "redefined" himself to some extent on amnesty; which is his "real" position?

At the least, he might just be showing that he doesn't always engage his brain before he puts the mouth in gear, which is bad enough. For once, I'd prefer a candidate who doesn't have to rework his positions.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 08, 2015 12:25 PM (P8YHq)

105 I don't know about you, but I am feeling the Joementum.

Talk about your amiable dunces. Except he's really a vicious back-biting dunce.

It would be like a 55 gallon drum of toluene and liquid oxygen poured on the fire.

Posted by: blaster at March 08, 2015 12:25 PM (Rx8ML)

106 re 18: I wonder how many college students think that Iowa is one of the Hawaiian islands. I suspect that something like half of them think Lincoln was a Democrat.

Posted by: mallfly at March 08, 2015 12:27 PM (bJm7W)

107 Traveling up the CA coast near SLO, stopped in a WalMart, picked up a 333 count box of 22LR. No ID needed.

Amazing.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 08, 2015 12:27 PM (9vBCx)

108 100
Disapointed in walker but I get this is part of the game. Pretty
insignificant part of America's challenges and it would be nice not to
have to write off Iowa in a general election





Much more concerned with amnesty talk than ethanol bs.

Posted by: Tracer at March 08, 2015 12:22 PM (xhYmA)

Republicans have won Iowa exactly once since RR left office. It is an almost automatic write-off.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 12:27 PM (wlDny)

109 It's not the substantive importance of the issue - though ethanol is a sterling example of an indefensible, wasteful, stupid bit of govt. meddling and looting - it's the lack of political savvy (yes, savvy) and confidence.

Pandering on ethanol, vs. the attention and splash of speaking plainly on the subject right in front of a crowd that may be in on and support the looting - no comparison.

WhyTF is America in 2015 unable to produce a politician with the brains and guts to simply say:

"Ethanol is a great example of wasteful, damaging govt. programs that essentially steal money from some taxpayers to give to others, all based on no valid scientific considerations, as so much of what is called 'environmental" policy is today."

There might still be time to actually appeal to the basic common sense of a tiny, bare majority of voters. That time is slipping away. When our dumbed-down and miseducated masses and illegal imports become just a bit more numerous compared to their elders, all best are off.

Is anyone in the GOP field not one of these mediocre, tiny little people who now dominate the Beltway?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 08, 2015 12:29 PM (afQnV)

110 Republicans have won Iowa exactly once since RR left office. It is an almost automatic write-off. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 12:27 PM

Who was it? Dubya or Daddy? Not sure either qualifies as a "Republican."

Well, maybe these days they do.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 08, 2015 12:29 PM (P8YHq)

111 Boy, I'd sure like to don my swimsuit and wash Amanda Carpenter's hair.

Posted by: Uncle Joe Busyhands at March 08, 2015 12:29 PM (Dwehj)

112 I want my freaking kidneys back.

Posted by: Charlie the Unicorn at March 08, 2015 12:30 PM (+FyX1)

113 110 Who was it? Dubya or Daddy? Not sure either qualifies as a "Republican."

Well, maybe these days they do.


Posted by: MrScribbler at March 08, 2015 12:29 PM (P8YHq)

Bush II's second term.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 12:31 PM (wlDny)

114 It all adds up. You have to wonder what a guy who panders on the small stuff will do with the Big Issues. Walker has already "redefined" himself to some extent on amnesty; which is his "real" position?


The problem is, who Is a better conservative than Walker and has shown he can win?

All the major candidates are squishy on immigration.

Posted by: Tracer at March 08, 2015 12:32 PM (xhYmA)

115 That Christie link.... just. Ugh.

Flippant and dismissive of, not Code Pink or a bunch of Feminazis, but his own constituency, who are struggling in their daily lives.

I've said it before and I still believe it. His style does not sell outside of NJ.

Posted by: Dan Quayle at March 08, 2015 12:35 PM (DmNpO)

116 ...a bottle of wine, some paste and crackers...hubba, hubba.

Posted by: Uncle Joe Busyhands at March 08, 2015 12:36 PM (Dwehj)

117 So Iowa hasn't really "gone Republican" since Reagan.

Kind of like what we get when MA elects a "Republican"....

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 08, 2015 12:37 PM (P8YHq)

118 OT:

Scrofulous grifters. Scrofulous grifters. Scrofulous grifters.

Whew. I feel better, I just wanted to see that repeated. Kevin Williamson is superb in the side bar.

Posted by: Dream at March 08, 2015 12:37 PM (NIJhi)

119 Off Quayle sock.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 08, 2015 12:38 PM (DmNpO)

120 89
Hey, phxazgrl, why aren't you sitting at the ballpark enjoying Spring Training?!!



If I lived in AZ I'd spend the entire month of March parked Scottsdale stadium... drunk off my ass. lol

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 12:16 PM (9BRsg)
i haven't gotten my first game of the season in yet. usually my brother comes down for 2 weeks and we go from stadium to stadium, but he's gone awol .....so i'll be going solo this year which unless i uber means i can't drink.... they put premiums on all the giants away games and jacked up the home game prices...it's just as expensive to go to these games as regular season games now....i have my candlestick park seats here at the home so i can listen to the games on the radio close my eyes and pretend i'm there....and get right without having to worry about driving......are you headed out here this year?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 08, 2015 12:40 PM (u8GsB)

121 The problem is, who Is a better conservative than Walker and has shown he can win?

All the major candidates are squishy on immigration.
Posted by: Tracer at March 08, 2015 12:32 PM (xhYmA)


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If Walker is the nominee, then I'll vote for him.

Posted by: Soona at March 08, 2015 12:40 PM (lhUpX)

122 WE'RE AT STORAGE CAPACITY ON CRUDE.

WTF do we need to add corn-squeezins to our gas tanks for other than to line pockets?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 08, 2015 12:44 PM (MMC8r)

123 I'd get rid of that ethanol crap in a heartbeat, but then again, I'm a stoner....

Posted by: SFGoth at March 08, 2015 12:44 PM (RxD8B)

124 114 All the major candidates are squishy on immigration.

Posted by: Tracer at March 08, 2015 12:32 PM (xhYmA)

WaEx did a rundown on all the potential GOP candidates (21 of them). The only one who was not in favor of amnesty in one form or another was Cruz. (They did not have Perry in the mix)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 12:49 PM (wlDny)

125 Sitting here watching a show were people are ice-fishing the Mississippi. In Mississippi.

I didn't even know that was possible.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 12:51 PM (vvS6Q)

126 Reality is Iowa is important not just in the primary, but in the general.

Democrats are winning the West and Southwest with their hispanicization strategy and expanding out of BoNYWash into the South thru Va and NC.

Repubs are countering by increasingly winning the midwest middle and working class white vote.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 08, 2015 12:53 PM (ZPrif)

127 But what the heck--you're welcome! Join us at the picnic. You can have your fill of all the food you bring yourself.

Posted by: Give Iowa a try at March 08, 2015 12:54 PM (a3NCX)

128 I met a strange lady; she made me nervous. She took me in and gave me breakfast.

Posted by: Colin Hay at March 08, 2015 12:57 PM (K+eZ6)

129 OT: ugggh
So still sick, it's still freezing, and half the handgun range has been taken over by the Chinese gun club
And anther quarter by a hungun class
Bastards!!!
Oh, and the tacticool kids are here

Ugggggh

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 08, 2015 12:58 PM (g8umy)

130 I though Iowa was a rumor
I mean have you ever met someone from there?

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 08, 2015 12:59 PM (g8umy)

131 Damn you autospell!!!
Damn you straight to hell!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 08, 2015 01:00 PM (g8umy)

132 O/T Story at Hot Air about Planet Fitness. A woman lost her membership b/c she complained about a dude in her locker room. Their policy is that you can ID whatever gender you feel you are. So, can I ID as a woman when the hot chicks are getting out of the shower? In. Sane.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2015 01:01 PM (5buP8)

133 "I mean have you ever met someone from there?"


Not that I can recall. Did meet someone from Minnesota who grew up just across the state line from Iowa. She swore up and down that Iowa existed and that there were people there, so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 08, 2015 01:02 PM (vvS6Q)

134 130 I though Iowa was a rumor
I mean have you ever met someone from there?

It's a weird place. They sell, and presumably people eat something called a "loose meat sandwich". On the upside, they raise a lot of pigs, so bacon.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2015 01:05 PM (5buP8)

135 I proudly stand by all of my Democrat-approved positions, so that you Nazified TeaBaggers can finally get the hint and GTFO from the official Country-Club Party!

Posted by: Jeb Bush at March 08, 2015 01:07 PM (2mJMN)

136 They make JD tractors in Waterloo, so it must exist.

Posted by: Ronster at March 08, 2015 01:07 PM (ymjdW)

137 Ethanol is a fucking joke.

Posted by: thathalfrican at March 08, 2015 01:09 PM (R5HRU)

138 Hey! did you guys know it's international chick day today? Aren't they supposed to show us their boobehs if we toss 'em a plastic necklace or something like that? I'm pretty sure that's in the rules...

Posted by: jwpaine at March 08, 2015 01:09 PM (a3NCX)

139 They sell, and presumably people eat something called a "loose meat sandwich".

As opposed to a tight meat sandwich.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 08, 2015 01:09 PM (W5DcG)

140 Choom-choom!

Posted by: Barack Biden at March 08, 2015 01:11 PM (VAsIq)

141 Christie really is a smug pompous punk isn't he.

And in the midwest, they're politer than the media are used to so the applause don't mean squat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 08, 2015 01:12 PM (zRby/)

142 For the moment, I'll support Scott Walker. I don't think he has charisma to pull it off. So, this is a violation of the Buckley Rule.

But, he got shit done. Given the amount of sell-outs and squishes we have on our side, I think we should focus on awarding that. If a candidate's just bringing talk and grandstanding, I'm not in the mood for it.

(The ethanol switch isn't helping, though.)

Posted by: AD at March 08, 2015 01:16 PM (pXB1a)

143 My brother spent two years in Des Moines--according to him, Des Moines has one of the highest per capita populations of gays and there are a lot of white trash people who game the system--they collect disability, Medicaid, unemployment, you name it--and will "join" any church willing to give 'em a few bucks.

My brother is not fond of Des Moines.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 01:17 PM (VAsIq)

144 I though Iowa was a rumor
I mean have you ever met someone from there?

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 08, 2015 12:59 PM (g8umy)




Actually yes. A guy I was on the ship with is from Iowa; he's a PNC these days. Here's his sister (no shit): http://youtu.be/k4-XldJw1vw

Posted by: Country Singer at March 08, 2015 01:17 PM (nL0sw)

145 134. The land of bacon?!!!
Puts them above my home state
All we export is crooked politicians and murder
Well, Shillary is from the Chicago area so that's a 2 for 1

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 08, 2015 01:17 PM (g8umy)

146 That should read: "...on the ship with a guy from Iowa."

Posted by: Country Singer at March 08, 2015 01:17 PM (nL0sw)

147 I read an interesting little blurb a while back about burning ethanol in the gasoline creates more ozone than straight gasoline. EPA has been going around the country tightening up the ozone standards. Denver won't pass the new ozone regulations. I was amused at the cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 08, 2015 01:17 PM (AxABj)

148 When Christie got on the stage suddenly an auction started.

Posted by: eman

That right there is funny.

Posted by: Dang at March 08, 2015 01:17 PM (FRkJH)

149 138
Hey! did you guys know it's international chick day today? Aren't they
supposed to show us their boobehs if we toss 'em a plastic necklace or
something like that? I'm pretty sure that's in the rules...

Posted by: jwpaine at March 08, 2015 01:09 PM (a3NCX)


Another fake day generated up by a German Marxist/Communist.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 08, 2015 01:18 PM (wlDny)

150 I'm sitting here watching the Tom Selleck version of Monte Walsh and it had a moronesqe line. Monte greets a cowboy, "How ya doin'?" Cowboy replies, "Better since I gave up hope."

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 08, 2015 01:18 PM (LImiJ)

151 They make JD tractors in Waterloo, so it must exist.
Posted by: Ronster

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Waterloo is a small town in ancient Rome where Admiral Napoleon lost to the Allied forces in the run-up to WWII.

Posted by: Vox at March 08, 2015 01:18 PM (VAsIq)

152 Look, there actually is a whole lot of extra daylight in summer - on both ends of the day. It's not so insane to value the daylight on the end of the day more when shifting an hour forward doesn't actually leave most people in the dark at the beginning of the day. Most people on conventional work schedules value getting more outdoor time and usable leisure hours with a DST shift.

This insane shift when it's still winter, however, makes no sense at all. It's not like getting up in the sun and playing late in the sun, it's darkness in the am for next to no improvement in the afternoon. It isn't worth it, and probably does more harm than good.

DST should either be limited to "fat" summer days with gobs of daylight to distribute, or eliminated altogether.

Posted by: SarahW at March 08, 2015 01:19 PM (Lbv/k)

153 Christie really is a smug pompous punk isn't he.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger

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Note to self: find out where Bitter Clinger lives and close all bridges in his areas.

Posted by: Chris Christie's Careful Cholesterol at March 08, 2015 01:20 PM (VAsIq)

154 Ethanol is a renewable resource and saves the planet from rising seas and global warming. We have saved the planet and ADM (they have the best gifts) and other distillers stay in business so they can give us neat stuff.

Let us hear no more of this criticism of ethanol as wasteful of water resources, fuel.

In fact we need more money to support ADM as a thank you.

Posted by: EPA (email to congress) at March 08, 2015 01:20 PM (WNERA)

155 >>I was amused at the cognitive dissonance.

Not unlike the cognitive dissonance of the tree-huggers supporting windmills and solar farms that slaughter birds.

Posted by: MSM at March 08, 2015 01:21 PM (lHHyw)

156 Oh, even though the line is hot there's two fools next to me wearing hearing protection with a comm cable on the side so I'm guessing military
Not hitting shit (6" targets at 25yds)
Of course they're using glocks
I got really tired of getting fanned so I'll wait them out

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 08, 2015 01:21 PM (g8umy)

157 Ow my balls!

Posted by: Chris Christie's Careful Cholesterol at March 08, 2015 01:21 PM (VAsIq)

158 Daylight savings should be moved to winter time when we really need it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 08, 2015 01:22 PM (zRby/)

159 >>Hey! did you guys know it's international chick day today?

What is that even supposed to mean? Half the world's populations gets to say "Yay, me!" one day a year? Gee, thanks. I don't need a holiday to validate my gender. Stupid Marxists.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2015 01:24 PM (lHHyw)

160 Ha
The range officer is teaching them about trigger control and sights

Hahahahahaha!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 08, 2015 01:24 PM (g8umy)

161 It was Ben Franklin's idea to save candles. If this idea really worked I'd have more candles now.

Posted by: Farmer from 1800s at March 08, 2015 01:24 PM (WNERA)

162 The going price for Christie would depend if he was sold as Feeder Cattle or as Pork Belly.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 08, 2015 01:25 PM (zRby/)

163 159. I think that means you get to tell your man what to do all day

Personally I call that a day that ends in "y"

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 08, 2015 01:26 PM (g8umy)

164 Kevin Williamson is indeed superb in the linked sidebar article.

When the law does not apply to the lawmakers and law-enforcers, you are not being governed: You are being ruled. And we are ruled by criminals.

Posted by: MTF, Bring On the Art. 5 Convention! at March 08, 2015 01:26 PM (FCsIb)

165 And we are ruled by criminals.

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So...a Hutt crime syndicate? Then Jebba or Christie deserves the nomination.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson, Star Wars enthusiast at March 08, 2015 01:29 PM (VAsIq)

166 137 Ethanol is a fucking joke.

No kidding. Bought a pontoon with Mercury outboard. To register warranty for the Merc had to sign addendum that said if I ran on ethanol it could void the warranty.

Posted by: olddog in mo at March 08, 2015 01:31 PM (3eZI/)

167 ...Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.

Posted by: Vizzini at March 08, 2015 01:31 PM (VAsIq)

168 How to carve wood.

First go out into the woods . . .

*five minutes so far on just cutting the fcuking trees down!!!*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 08, 2015 01:32 PM (zRby/)

169 Ethanol is a fucking joke.

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...It's not a very funny joke, is it?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 01:32 PM (VAsIq)

170 Want to improve your shot grouping? Use one of these:

featurepics.com/online/Puppy-Dog-Silhouette-1739169.aspx

Posted by: Fritz at March 08, 2015 01:34 PM (dVmLD)

171 Want to improve your shot grouping? Use one of these:

featurepics.com/online/Puppy-Dog-Silhouette-1739169.aspx

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Oh, we already do.

Posted by: Cops at March 08, 2015 01:37 PM (VAsIq)

172 I can't support Scott Walker because he's the Anti-Christ.

http://tinyurl.com/nyddxlf

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 08, 2015 01:39 PM (LImiJ)

173 Seeing as we hardly ever have Gum threads anymore.

Big Brown drops off Star Model B #3, from J&G at the house tomorrow.
The first one was from J&G, and was original bluing.
Second was directly from Century International Arms, and was parkerized.
Let's see what this one looks like.

ProTip, Numrich Gun Parts advertises extractors that fit the Model B.

They don't.

Fortunately, they have an outstanding return policy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 01:43 PM (hzrlb)

174 The NY Slime. If they could not run stories about race, racism, racist cops, racist people, would they be able to fill up their paper?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 01:44 PM (0FSuD)

175 170. Oh my lord
Must buy!!!

Will look good on my MRAP

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 08, 2015 01:44 PM (g8umy)

176 Yeah, the first hint that ethanol screwed your carburetor is when it won't stay running unless the choke stays on.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 01:44 PM (FMbng)

177 The NY Slime. If they could not run stories about race, racism, racist cops, racist people, would they be able to fill up their paper?

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Sure! We have lots of stories about sex, sexism, sexist cops, sexist people....

Posted by: NY Slime at March 08, 2015 01:45 PM (VAsIq)

178 @172

Sadly I must admit, I say the solar eclipse in 1967.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 01:47 PM (0FSuD)

179 Ethanol sucks.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 11:29 AM (FMbng)


ಠ_ಠ

Posted by: The Drinky Hat at March 08, 2015 01:48 PM (0Ew3K)

180 I don't know if this has been mentioned on any of the other threads, but SNL's opening monologue was on Hillary(!)'s emails. It wasn't terribly funny, of course, but it showed that Hillary(!) is a grasping, artificial, power-hungry individual.

Then, of course, they had four jokes about Ben Carson's idiocy during the weekend update.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 01:48 PM (VAsIq)

181 ethanol mandate is stupid. But it's about #57 on my priorities list.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 08, 2015 01:49 PM (ZPrif)

182 Da govehmint is jess savin all dat daylite to give to da honkies. Where my daylite, bitchez?

Posted by: Afroman at March 08, 2015 01:49 PM (lMcYM)

183 ethanol mandate is stupid. But it's about #57 on my priorities list.

Posted by: Costanza Defense

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#'s 1-10 all involve Kate Upton's boobs, Mr. Defense....

Posted by: Reviewer of Priority Lists at March 08, 2015 01:50 PM (VAsIq)

184 What is that even supposed to mean? Half the world's populations gets to say "Yay, me!" one day a year? Gee, thanks. I don't need a holiday to validate my gender. Stupid Marxists.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2015 01:24 PM (lHHyw)


so... no flashin' of da boobehs...?

Posted by: jwpaine at March 08, 2015 01:50 PM (a3NCX)

185 I have a gasoline generator for emergency use. After every use I completely drain the fuel system and carb even tho I use Sta-Bil in the gas. It causes excessive corrosion in the system.

There is no logical reason to use ethanol, if you aren't in the corn belt they need a way to transport it to the refiners where it is mixed with gasoline. It cannot be shipped by pipeline so it is train or truck. So trains and trucks are automatically for ethanol too--it pays.

Most of us here could write a white paper on the failings of ethanol's promise.

It is about the taxpayer money. Period.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 08, 2015 01:51 PM (WNERA)

186 Federal Records Act says Hillary's emails should have been saved.

Does that apply to text messages? What about IM clients?

If not, that's a huge loop hole.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 08, 2015 01:52 PM (ZPrif)

187 I'll get to hear Cruz this week at the Iowa Renewal Project in Des Moines. Looking forward to it.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 08, 2015 01:53 PM (czIfS)

188 @185

I never drain mine. I guess that is why at the beach a lot of gas stations sell non ethanol gas. It's not cheap.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 01:53 PM (0FSuD)

189 173 Seeing as we hardly ever have Gum threads anymore.

True that. And what happened to those Doublemint twins?

http://youtu.be/7sefHatyheE

Posted by: olddog in mo at March 08, 2015 01:54 PM (3eZI/)

190 Federal Records Act says Hillary's emails should have been saved.

Does that apply to text messages? What about IM clients?

If not, that's a huge loop hole.

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Hmmm, we'll get right on closing that loophole. Just, you know, after the election.

If it's a Republican.

Who's not Jebbers.

Posted by: Slimy Government Bureaucrats at March 08, 2015 01:54 PM (VAsIq)

191 My husband doesn't understand my violent opposition to ethanol.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 08, 2015 01:54 PM (czIfS)

192 Can't we just start claiming all of our kids are allergic to ethanol, like it's peanuts? Then they'll HAVE to ban it.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 01:55 PM (VAsIq)

193 They should make Christie do the "truffle shuffle."

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 01:56 PM (VAsIq)

194 *looks around*

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 01:58 PM (VAsIq)

195 So, can I ID as a woman when the hot chicks are getting out of the shower? In. Sane.

****

Well, here's how I see it. The statement from the company said the usage would hinge on the member's sincere self-reported gender identity. But at the same time they said that the complaining member violated their non-judgmental policy. This raises the gazillion dollar question of how can they 'judge' the sincerity of someone's self-reported claim in a 'no judgment' zone. This may be the loophole you are looking for. Just act sincere!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 08, 2015 01:58 PM (NeFrd)

196 *takes pants off*
*relaxes*

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 01:58 PM (VAsIq)

197 "True that. And what happened to those Doublemint twins? "

Since the filming of that commercial, one of the dogs was shot during a no-knock raid at the wrong house.

One sister is now hawking Three Wolf Moon sweaters on QVC.
And the second sister is a pre-op, who now goes by "Brian".


The second dog?

Run over by an old lady backing her mini-van out of the driveway while he was licking his balls.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 01:58 PM (hzrlb)

198 Every International Woman's Day, I let her make herself a sandwich, too.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 08, 2015 01:58 PM (MMC8r)

199 *puts pants back on in a panic*

Sorry, Muldoon, I thought I was alone in here!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 01:58 PM (VAsIq)

200 We only need the emails and other records to prove they cheat and steal. Could this be why they hide them? Well, of course, they are for the most part power hungry thieves and do their best work hidden from light.

It is Perfidy, and is technically against the law but when the perps are in charge of the prosecution expect only their enemies to be charged.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 08, 2015 01:59 PM (WNERA)

201 In fact we need more money to support ADM as a thank you.
Posted by: EPA (email to congress)

In days long past (the Clinton Regime), the decision was being made to use Methanol (made from coal) or Ethanol (made from maize....you call it corn).

There were good reasons and bad to use either one. The deciding one was a large contribution from ADM to the DNC. That flipped it for Billy Jeff.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... waiting for spring at March 08, 2015 01:59 PM (+1T7c)

202 I want a candidate to pander to the center, pretending to be a moderate who'll pull both sides together. Then, once he's in office, I want him to go hard right and punish the left for eight years. The anti-Barack.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at March 08, 2015 01:59 PM (NBhge)

203 yer smarter than I am, turd. I posted about half-dozen clever (or so I imagine) comments on the last thread before I saw that I was just playing with myself.

Posted by: jwpaine at March 08, 2015 02:00 PM (a3NCX)

204 There were good reasons and bad to use either one. The deciding one was a large contribution from ADM to the DNC. That flipped it for Billy Jeff.

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That's a lie! It was a large contribution, PLUS a compromising photo of me at Pedophile Island, that decided the issue.

Posted by: Former President Bill Clinton at March 08, 2015 02:01 PM (VAsIq)

205 I want a candidate to pander to the center, pretending to be a moderate who'll pull both sides together. Then, once he's in office, I want him to go hard right and punish the left for eight years. The anti-Barack.

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*waves hand*

Posted by: Pander Bear Candidate at March 08, 2015 02:01 PM (VAsIq)

206 jwpaine, I'll have to go look at your comments. Those are usually my favorite ones: when no one else is reading.

Posted by: Pander Bear Candidate at March 08, 2015 02:02 PM (VAsIq)

207 I assume it's Kraut chick day too so Diane Kruger.

http://tinyurl.com/k8smvds

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 08, 2015 02:04 PM (LImiJ)

208 198
Every International Woman's Anal Day, I let her make herself a sandwich, too.


Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 08, 2015 01:58 PM (MMC8r)
FIFY. I give her her wish.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 02:04 PM (0FSuD)

209 In honor of today:

Why are women's feet so short?
So they can stand closer to the stove.

Posted by: Jukin Former Republican at March 08, 2015 02:04 PM (WGm5T)

210 Fcuking Bing will not let you leave. Rude.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 02:05 PM (0FSuD)

211 *sigh* still waitin' for the boobehs...

Posted by: jwpaine at March 08, 2015 02:07 PM (a3NCX)

212 On the other hand, this could be pragmatism.
Incrementalism got the left to where they are today. There are some
issues where all-or-nothing is the best strategy. Perhaps phasing out
farm and ethanol subsidies is the best we can hope for in the real
world.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 08, 2015 11:41 AM (WdLYX)


I tend to agree. The ethanol mandate is a supremely bad idea, but it has made many farmers and processors rich. They vote. Even if they understand on an intellectual level that corn ethanol is not a "solution" to anything, they are hooked on the easy money. I see three pragmatic ways to deal with this situation. One, promote a long-term phase-out, say over 8 years or so. This would allow older farmers who are near retirement to carry on pretty much as before, as they will "phase out" about the same time as the mandate. That's the honest option. Number two, promote a long-term phase-out while campaigning, but, once elected, evince great shock and horror that the Democrats had cooked the books, and the situation is a whole lot worse, by golly, and the ethanol phase-out will have to be accelerated to 3 years because the country will be the loser, otherwise. That's the semi-honest option. Number three, campaign on a long-term phaseout, or even just ignore the mandate altogether, or even feign support for it, and then, once elected, kill it dead all at once. The "Democrats cooked the books" mantra can be used to excuse this, naturally, and we know for a fact they do cook the books, so it's not only plausible, it's true.

I'd favor option number three, some tough love for farmers. And you could throw them a bone by offering some short-term subsidies to grow tortilla-grade corn for the Central American market. One of the shameful side effects of the ethanol mandates is that food-grade corn became scarcer and more expensive because so much acreage was diverted to grow ethanol corn. And making corn products cheaper in Central America might help stem the flow of illegal immigrants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 08, 2015 02:07 PM (u6ZjY)

213
"There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born."


Barack only forgot one small matter. Selma happened in 1965, and he was born in 1961. Again, a lying prick who is unable to tell the truth about anything.


Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 08, 2015 02:08 PM (P330y)

214 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 01:58

Damn, what a tragic story. Makes my heart hurt. Especially for the poor ball-licking dog that was run over by grandma.

Posted by: olddog in mo at March 08, 2015 02:08 PM (3eZI/)

215 Anyone remember the Quantum Leap episode with Buddy Holly coming up with the Peggy Sue song about his pig?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:09 PM (VAsIq)

216 It's insane to get up in front of an audience of Iowa corn farmers and say, "I'm going to take away a mandated market for corn from you."

It's insane to get up in front of an audience of technically illiterate American voters and say, "The EROEI of ethanol is ridiculous. The energy conversion factor of photosynthetic plants is too low to make vehicle fuels."

Roll it into broader issues. Simplify. Clarify.

Say something along the lines of,

"For most of the history of this country, American citizens got along perfectly well without having rules on ordinary household items like toilets, light bulbs and gasoline being imposed on them by faraway federal bureaucrats in Washington, D.C."

You can expand the point.

"Much less having those same faceless unaccountable bureaucrats getting in between them and their doctor in the consultation room. Those things were thought to be none of D.C.'s business. That's the way the Constitution set things up, and it was a way that worked fine, and it's a way we need to return to."

Posted by: The Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party at March 08, 2015 02:09 PM (noWW6)

217 The only reason Republicans support the Ethanol mandate is because it benefits white rural farmers. This is welfare for rural whites. If the farmers were Black or Latino the GOP would be wanting to get rid of the subsides.

The Republican party supports welfare for rural whites.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:10 PM (yc2cD)

218 The Republican Party supports welfare for everyone--that's why we're all fed up with the Party.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:11 PM (VAsIq)

219 Grand Wizard Scott Walker is pro welfare for white farmers.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:11 PM (yc2cD)

220 @218
Republicans are against welfare for minorities. Hence why they demonize them, but they support welfare for white farmers and Wall Street.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:12 PM (yc2cD)

221 I have a gasoline generator for emergency use. After every use I completely drain the fuel system and carb even tho I use Sta-Bil in the gas. It causes excessive corrosion in the system.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 08, 2015 01:51 PM (WNERA)


Anything that gets seasonal or occasional use needs to be drained before it sits, including the bowl of the carb. Usually I'll drain the gas and run it till it dies if the bowl doesn't have a drain. This gas is such shit I don't even trust it after its 6 months old.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 02:12 PM (FMbng)

222 It burns when I pee.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:13 PM (VAsIq)

223 I posted about half-dozen clever (or so I imagine) comments on the last thread before I saw that I was just playing with myself.

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http://tinyurl.com/m7z7hlq

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 08, 2015 02:13 PM (LImiJ)

224 Every day, I check my right palm for fur, just in case.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:14 PM (VAsIq)

225 The Republican party supports welfare for rural whites.
Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:10 PM (yc2cD)

You could argue the space program was welfare for white engineers and technicians. Either way combined they pale in dollar numbers to welfare for people. Paying people to not work is a fine way to get more people not working. It upsets the labor market.

It makes for idle hands and they are the devil's workshop.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 08, 2015 02:15 PM (WNERA)

226 "And making corn products cheaper in Central America might help stem the flow of illegal immigrants."

What you say?

Central America: cheaper tortillas.

America: EITC, EBT, WIC, SNAP, AFDC, TANF, Section 8 housing.

Si senor. We theenk about this. We get back to you, hokay?

Posted by: Pedro and Maria at March 08, 2015 02:15 PM (noWW6)

227 Seriously, can we as a nation get to the point where we stop giving a fuck about Iowa? A bunch of subsidy addicts living in cornfields who expect to be pandered to once every four years are not who we need to have picking our candidates.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at March 08, 2015 02:16 PM (SkKfM)

228 Damn, what a tragic story. Makes my heart hurt. Especially for the poor ball-licking dog that was run over by grandma.

****


He died doing what he loved.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 08, 2015 02:16 PM (NeFrd)

229 The troll has a point. Ethanol is nothing but welfare.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 02:17 PM (0FSuD)

230 "The devil...the prowde spirite..cannot endure to be mocked." --Thomas More

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:17 PM (VAsIq)

231 He died doing what he loved.

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Ruff!

Posted by: Zombie Ball-licking Dog at March 08, 2015 02:18 PM (VAsIq)

232 @225
You support welfare for farmers to grow corn. At least you are honest that you support welfare for rural whites.

You do know many whites abuse SSI disability? That is OK, because they are part of the master race.


I give you kudos for honestly, but wish the GOP would drop the whole small government economic freedom canard. They support socialism for rural whites.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:18 PM (yc2cD)

233 @226
No white people are on any welfare program, right?

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:19 PM (yc2cD)

234 Psst--Bob: Don't take his kudos. It's icky.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:20 PM (VAsIq)

235 Colin Powell called out the increasing white nationalism in today's Republican Party. I salute him for standing up to racist trash. The Republican Party should coke out and be honest that they are a rural whites only party.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:21 PM (yc2cD)

236 Hang on a minute, guys--that street burrito I purchased is doing a number on me. It might be dysentery.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:21 PM (VAsIq)

237 The Republican Party is for welfare for whites.
Democrats are for welfare for all.

How about a party that opposes welfare?

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:21 PM (yc2cD)

238 Anyone remember the Quantum Leap episode with Buddy Holly coming up with the Peggy Sue song about his pig?

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I bought a book yesterday, Buddy Holly Is Alive and Well On Ganymede. I've barely begun but it's a scyfy comedy about a guy who was conceived the exact moment of Holly's death and then decades later Holly's image appears on every TV in the world simultaneously and, apparently, Buddy Holly is coming back from the great beyond.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 08, 2015 02:21 PM (LImiJ)

239 So. Much. Diarrhea.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:22 PM (VAsIq)

240 "In days long past (the Clinton Regime), the decision was being made to use Methanol (made from coal) or Ethanol (made from maize....you call it corn)."

If you like the horribly damaging effect that ethanol has on engine fuel systems, eating up gaskets and O-rings, you're just gonna love methanol.

Here's the #Torque2016 energy plan in one paragraph.

Corn is for eating or for feeding to animals. Ethanol is for drinking. Wind is a costly toy. Solar should be on orbital platforms. Vehicles should be powered by synthetic gasoline or synthetic diesel derived via GTL processes from our thanks-to-fracking abundant natural gas. We will free up gas since all primary electricity generation should be from new generation nuclear plants. These new nukes will also eliminate the need for long term use of Yucca Mountain, by fissioning that "waste" and making power from it. We will still need Yucca for secure short term storage till then, and the unhappy Senate Minority Leader can go yucc an egg.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 08, 2015 02:23 PM (noWW6)

241 By the way, since when do we get a weekend edition of Hector?

Posted by: torquewrench at March 08, 2015 02:23 PM (noWW6)

242 Be glad you can't smell this, guys. It's pretty rank. I wouldn't wish it even on you racists.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:23 PM (VAsIq)

243 Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:21 PM (VAsIq)

If you were a regular here you would know we don't like what rino's do. We rag on them more than the dems. So stop the racists shit and stick to the point.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 08, 2015 02:23 PM (WNERA)

244 Ethanol sucks.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 11:29 AM (FMbng)


But does it swallow?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 08, 2015 02:24 PM (veOgY)

245 236
Hang on a minute, guys--that street burrito I purchased is doing a number on me. It might be dysentery.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:21 PM (VAsIq)

This would be good. Take your shit over to HA.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 02:24 PM (0FSuD)

246 #Torque2016 for office or something!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:25 PM (VAsIq)

247 239
So. Much. Diarrhea.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:22 PM (VA

Like your posts. Be gone.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 08, 2015 02:26 PM (0FSuD)

248 Um, Nip Sip, the poop posts from the troll are not the real troll.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:26 PM (VAsIq)

249 Why not use the thanks-to-fracking abundant natural gas to power the internal combustion engine rather than going through the extra step of converting it to a liquid ?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 08, 2015 02:27 PM (W5DcG)

250 "Seriously, can we as a nation get to the point where we stop giving a fuck about Iowa? A bunch of subsidy addicts living in cornfields who expect to be pandered to once every four years are not who we need to have picking our candidates."

If they were better at picking general election winners, it would be a different story.

Here's another #Torque2016 proposal. An intra-GOP policy shift.

After the general election, if the Republican party's candidate loses, the states where that candidate won the primaries or caucuses get dropped to the very back of the calendar queue for the next primary cycle. Those states which consistently pick general election winners will end up with primary priority over time.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 08, 2015 02:27 PM (noWW6)

251 @243
RINOs, I thought Scott Walker was the great white hope for you guys. He's a welfare lover for white folks, but will gladly go after minorities.

Why don't Republicans just come out and admit they only care about rural whites. Be honest and stop with the dog whistle crap.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:27 PM (yc2cD)

252 "By the way, since when do we get a weekend edition of Hector? "

I's Aces way of giving back to us for paying the monthly AoSHQ Platinum membership rates.

Ace wins
We win
Hector has something to do on weekends.

It's a trifecta of winning.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 02:27 PM (hzrlb)

253 You know what I think is funny? Two of the top four candidates we right wing racist teabaggers want to see as president are black, Allen West and Ben Carson.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 08, 2015 02:28 PM (LImiJ)

254 249 Currently at least a couple of autos that run on compressed nat gas and some trucks on LNG. So yeah it is happening. It will never have the density of energy as gasoline or diesel.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 08, 2015 02:28 PM (WNERA)

255
I just stopped in,
to see what condition that the HQ was in.

Yeah, yeah, oh yeah . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 08, 2015 02:29 PM (CMkNk)

256 Both the Republican and Democrat parties are anti-American. Their sole purpose is to divide us against each other.

Republicans love to whip up white racists and Democrats like to whip the social justice commies.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:29 PM (yc2cD)

257 Welcome, J.J.!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:29 PM (VAsIq)

258 Two of the top four candidates we right wing racist teabaggers want to see as president are black, Allen West and Ben Carson.

Jindal and Haley are normally considered 'people of color' unless they're conservative, then they're white.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 08, 2015 02:30 PM (MMC8r)

259 @253
Sure they are Blacks who "know their place." If a minority Republicans leaves the plantation like Rubio, it is open season on them.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:30 PM (yc2cD)

260 Today we're whites-only racists--I learn so much from the trolls.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:31 PM (VAsIq)

261
JJ, your kitties, they will be confused today.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 08, 2015 02:31 PM (CRukk)

262 I give Ted Cruz respect for not pandering to white trash welfare farmers of Iowa.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:32 PM (yc2cD)

263 Isn't John Boehner a person of color? I mean, he's a tool and all, but it's pretty cool of Republicans to let a "token" Orange hold such a prestigious position.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:32 PM (VAsIq)

264 "Why not use the thanks-to-fracking abundant natural gas to power the internal combustion engine rather than going through the extra step of converting it to a liquid?"

In some specific cases, gaseous fuel is fine. Preferred even.

In general it's easier to handle and move liquids around.

And the engineering trade space for vehicle design is made more friendly by storage tanks that don't have to require a compressed gas. A CNG tank only wants to be a certain shape, optimally. A liquid fuel tank can conform to available volume within the vehicle package more gracefully.

Such new gen liquid fuels are also entirely compatible with the existing installed base of gasoline and diesel vehicles. Synthetic gasoline from GTL natural gas will drop right in to your classic car with no problems at all. And GTL fuels have many fewer issues with things like tailpipe particulates.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 08, 2015 02:33 PM (noWW6)

265 Why don't you just admit that you like red cars more than taupe ones?

Posted by: DOG loves truck at March 08, 2015 02:33 PM (VAsIq)

266 @260
It is true, the modern Republican Party has become a rural whites only party. It was not like this even 10 years ago, but with the white nationalist take over via the tea party, George Wallace would be at home in today's Republican party.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:33 PM (yc2cD)

267 And Cruz and Rubio would be 'people of color' if they'd just think like they're told, otherwise they're white.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 08, 2015 02:33 PM (MMC8r)

268 Two of the top four candidates we right wing racist teabaggers want to see as president are black, Allen West and Ben Carson.

Jindal and Haley are normally considered 'people of color' unless they're conservative, then they're white.

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Oh yeah. I forgot about them. I may have to check my white privilege card.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 08, 2015 02:34 PM (LImiJ)

269 How's your felon wife, Hector? Still illegal?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 08, 2015 02:35 PM (MMC8r)

270 Why not use the thanks-to-fracking abundant natural
gas to power the internal combustion engine rather than going through
the extra step of converting it to a liquid ?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 08, 2015 02:27 PM (W5DcG)


Because it cannot readily be stored as a liquid. You can liquefy it, but it has to be stored at cryogenic temperatures, so not really suited for consumer use that way. Natural gas vehicles (and there are a lot of them already) use pressure cylinders to store the gas. So range is an issue, and also the weight of the tank. Gasoline and Diesel are pretty much ideal fuels, in that they have a very high energy density (BTU's per pound) and also can be safely stored in light, thin-walled tanks at atmospheric pressure.

But, at present there is no need for GTL technology to make motor fuel, as the crude oil supply is still ample.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 08, 2015 02:35 PM (u6ZjY)

271 Derp derp derp, stay on script, derp derp.

Posted by: Troll at March 08, 2015 02:36 PM (VAsIq)

272 How much extra energy is required to convert gas to synthetic liquid fuel?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 08, 2015 02:36 PM (W5DcG)

273 @267
Many Latinos like Rubio and Cruz are biologically white. However, conservatives do not acknowledge the existance of white Latinos and this socially, they are not white.

Italians and Jews were not considered white 100 years for social reasons, the same with white Hispanics.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:36 PM (yc2cD)

274 Hang on a minute, guys--that street burrito I purchased is doing a number on me. It might be dysentery.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:21 PM (VAsIq)


Go wipe your ass with a snow cone.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 02:36 PM (FMbng)

275 Theoretically, Cruz and Rubio could join Planet Fitness, and claim female gender orientation.
So now we have two blacks, and two females, besides the real females in the party all generally accepted or rejected according to their positions, and not on their skin color, or plumbing.


Yup, racist sexist conservatives at it again.
Looking for the racial/sexual purity candidate of white skin and a penis that they were originally born with.



Fcuking dumbass trolls.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 08, 2015 02:37 PM (hzrlb)

276 And it's time for another episode of The Protocols of the Elders of Hector, who is race obsessed.

Us? We're just concerned with content of character, and things like legal status.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 08, 2015 02:38 PM (MMC8r)

277 I saw a burrito floating down the street on a river of dysentery in New Orleans.

Posted by: Brian Williams at March 08, 2015 02:38 PM (K+eZ6)

278 I am an expert on race, because I don't see it. So I know who is white and who is not, down to the drop.

Posted by: GOMP loves wifewear at March 08, 2015 02:38 PM (VAsIq)

279 I thought trolls took the weekend off.

Posted by: Lauren at March 08, 2015 02:38 PM (MYCIw)

280 I thought trolls took the weekend off.

Posted by: Lauren at March 08, 2015 02:38 PM (MYCIw)


Mommy's basement is a 24-7 thing.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2015 02:39 PM (FMbng)

281 Today's Republican party is the party of Jefferson Davis, Bull Conor and George Wallace.
Today's Democrat party is the party of Henry Wallace and the Hollywood 5.

Today's electoral scenario is Dixiecrat vs Marxist-Leninist.
There is no Center-Right party in today's America. It is National Socialism vs, International Socialism.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:40 PM (yc2cD)

282
Race, race, race, race, white, white, race, dog whistle, welfare, Klan, race, white, race, race, Klan, welfare, dog whistle, dog whistle, welfare, white, white, Klan, race, Klan, Klan, race, race, race, welfare, race, Klan, welfare, welfare, dog whistle, race, race, Klan, race, race, welfare, dog whistle......


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 08, 2015 02:40 PM (ynQIy)

283 @276
Please, you are just a more polite version of the Klan. I have respect for Bob from Table 9 because he is honest in his pro-white agenda. I respect honest racists, not those who are too cowardly to admit their true world view.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:41 PM (yc2cD)

284 I thought we were the racists, now dumbshit is telling us the Republicans are. Is it the Republicans, or us?

Shouldn't Boner get a non-racist t-shirt, since he pushed through the shamnesty for Hector's wife?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 08, 2015 02:42 PM (MMC8r)

285 I hope Americans of goodwill boycott the 2016 elections. It is time to say no to the Dixiecrats and Marxist=Leninists.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:42 PM (yc2cD)

286
I saw River of Dysentery open for Slayer at Ozzfest back in '04.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 08, 2015 02:43 PM (ynQIy)

287 "How much extra energy is required to convert gas to synthetic liquid fuel?"

In general, GTL plants cost a pretty penny. Better bring a couple of billion bucks. But once in operation they are generally reckoned to be operationally cost competitive with a traditional oil-based vehicle fuel refinery, including being energy cost competitive.

(Remember that crude oil has to endure some pretty complicated, costly, energy intensive gymnastics itself, on its long journey in between the wellhead and the unleaded pump.)

Last I looked, the Sasol firm were running design studies for a GTL plant, America's first one, intended to be sited in Lousiana's refinery corridor.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 08, 2015 02:44 PM (noWW6)

288 >>Go wipe your ass with a snow cone.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Oooh
Snow Cones!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 08, 2015 02:46 PM (sQzB6)

289 I missed the book thread, but I thought this book--Shady Characters: The Secret Life of Punctuation, Symbols & Other Typographical Marks--might interest some of the ampersand-obsessed Horde.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:46 PM (VAsIq)

290 I thought we were the racists, now dumbshit is telling us the Republicans are. Is it the Republicans, or us?

Can't tell the players without a program.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 08, 2015 02:47 PM (W5DcG)

291 Choom Choom!

Posted by: Barack Biden at March 08, 2015 02:47 PM (VAsIq)

292 @284
There are still non racists Republicans like Boehner, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and others. But they are a minority in today's Republican party.

Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:47 PM (yc2cD)

293 Can't tell the players without a program.

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Can't tell the players without a pogrom. FIFY

Posted by: Leftists at March 08, 2015 02:48 PM (VAsIq)

294 Always amusing when the guy who insists on calling everybody else names claims he sees racists. U huh, sure you can buddy - in the mirror.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2015 02:50 PM (lHHyw)

295 >>>239
So. Much. Diarrhea.

Depends(tm).

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 08, 2015 02:53 PM (7Ftan)

296 Marco!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:54 PM (VAsIq)

297 Rubio!

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 08, 2015 02:55 PM (MMC8r)

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 08, 2015 02:56 PM (VAsIq)

299 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 08, 2015 02:29 PM (CMkNk)

You do know who sang that?


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 08, 2015 02:56 PM (zRby/)

300 Posted by: GOP loves welfare at March 08, 2015 02:47 PM (yc2cD)

See! we're minority party!!!!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 08, 2015 02:57 PM (zRby/)

301 Cruz is 100% right on this issue and the others are just pandering jerks.

He still isn't qualified to be President by a long shot, though.

Posted by: Adjoran at March 08, 2015 02:59 PM (QIQ6j)

302 Posted by: torquewrench at March 08, 2015 02:44 PM (noWW6)

Lake Charles , LA.

Posted by: 14 billion at March 08, 2015 02:59 PM (glJL/)

303 I haven't heard anything recently from or about Allen West running for president. Anybody know anything? I appreciate his blunt words on Islamic ideology and wouldn't mind him getting a cabinet position.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 08, 2015 03:00 PM (KH1sk)

304 You do know who sang that?

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Kenny Rogers and the First Edition. That was before he lost that loose wheel.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 08, 2015 03:01 PM (LImiJ)

305 As a tribute to Leonard Nimoy, the Space channel in Canada is playing Star Trek episodes all day, which is nice.


I've only watched for a few minutes, here and there, but they look remastered, great color. Really nice.


Rest in peace Mr. Nimoy.


Oh, and Bone and Spock - 'frenemies' before that was even a thing.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 08, 2015 03:03 PM (AC0lD)

306 We stopped electing presidents because they were qualified for the job a long time ago.

It's all optics and PR.

(and no I'm not talking about Puerto Rico.

This is why we're getting fooled more often because what class of personality does best as far as looks, conviviality, popularity, charisma, charm, etc.

Con Men that's who.

Confidence Men (or women) to use the old school term.

They INSPIRE confidence. Based on absolutely nothing more than their handshake and a smile.

Who does that remind you of?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 08, 2015 03:03 PM (zRby/)

307 Food thread up.

Posted by: olddog in mo at March 08, 2015 03:03 PM (3eZI/)

308 Oh, and baseball is on!!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 08, 2015 03:04 PM (AC0lD)

309 I always preferred Bones....

Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2015 03:04 PM (lHHyw)

310
"Rick Perry... (He still opposes a Federal ethanol mandate.)"


[T]he former governor of a petroleum-rich state [Governor Perry] suggested he didnt think it would be fair to end the RFS while oil companies continued to benefit from tax breaks. "I dont think you pull the RFS out and discriminate against the RFS and leave all these other subsidies," he said.

HotAir

Opposes -- in the "supports forever" sense of the term.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 08, 2015 04:35 PM (kdS6q)

311 That's disappointing to hear from Gov. Walker.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 08, 2015 04:42 PM (lG2E3)

312 The ethanol subsidy still exists only because Iowa is front row center for pandering primary politics.

Walker's cave-in to the corn-hucksters isn't a good sign of spine. Somebody needs to remind him of how talking tough then backing down worked for Pawlenty last time out.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 08, 2015 04:50 PM (QKIQb)

313 @310
I find it odd that an agri business pub that I linked above (and here
www.agri-pulse.com/Perry-no-reversal-on-ethanol-03072015.asp) would interpret Perry's position "not a federal issue" if his position was the same as Walker's.

No offense, but Hot Gas is so in the tank for Walker I don't really trust their articles when it comes to 2016 prospects any longer.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 05:02 PM (9BRsg)

314 As usual, WSJ and HotGas selectively quoted. If you read the full quote at the link Perry's position is to remove all federal subsidies.

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2015 05:09 PM (9BRsg)

315 America's highest-ranked buddy-fucker deploys again! http://tinyurl.com/mdh2yeh Fly, Blue Falcon, fly!

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 08, 2015 05:45 PM (XO6WW)

316
If you read the full quote at the link Perry's position is to remove all federal subsidies.
Posted by: Y-not


Waffles:

A Perry representative later sent a statement of clarification to Agri-Pulse, saying he "has a philosophical objection to the federal government distorting the marketplace, whether it's direct subsidies, tax credits, or fuel mandates."

But the statement went on to suggest it was premature to dismantle the RFS: "We should not single out ethanol and the RFS while ignoring tax credits, subsidies and mandates for other fuel and energy producers. Gov. Perry supports a review of all federal energy mandates, tax incentives and subsidies to see if and how they protect our food supply and strengthen our energy industry, help small farmers succeed, and ultimately, ensure a responsible use of taxpayer dollars."

And since the severely conservative Perry isn't going to touch those, and a severely conservative review panel appointed by Perry isn't going to touch those, and since a severely conservative Congress isn't going to touch those, the "Engine Eating Gas" mandates go on forever.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 08, 2015 05:51 PM (kdS6q)

317 Perry is also a gun-grabber, I hear.

LOL

Posted by: Y-not on her phone at March 08, 2015 06:36 PM (9BRsg)

318
Perry is also a gun-grabber, I hear. LOL
Posted by: Y-not




Protip: If you keep needing to hand-wave away what your candidate has or is saying, you're losing.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 08, 2015 06:49 PM (kdS6q)

319 I am a farmowner, all my neighbors are farmers, most of the people I worship with are farmers, etc.... and I HATE ETHANOL. It is one of the most Rube Goldbergian schemes ever devised, putting more energy INTO the process than you get back out at the other end. It is GENERATIONAL THEFT. It is ruining/depleting the land/soil that our descendants need lest they starve. Corn is one of the most land-erosive, water-guzzling, pesticide-dependent, groundwater-polluting crops there is, and it is basically washing the state of Iowa down into the Gulf of Mexico. (Well, the rest of the Grain Belt is washing south, too, it's just that Iowa's the worst: They plant corn in rows going up and down hills, not even on the contour!!)

And the driving up of ALL grain prices by the inordinate landmass devoted to corn is literally causing starvation in other countries around the world. Bread riots are what started the "Arab Spring" in Egypt. See Deroy Murdock's article about it here:
http://tinyurl.com/p4bdkpk

Ethanol fuel is evil, evil, EVIL. I know every gas station between Concordia, KS, and Dallas, TX, that sells ethanol-free gasoline, and when I make one of my many required trips up or down I-35/135, I stop ONLY at those gas stations. I regard it as moral cooperation with evil to put ethanol in my car. (Not to mention that it's hell on your engine AND -- irony of ironies -- it actually DECREASES your miles per gallon. Can't. Make. This. Shit. Up.)

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at March 08, 2015 07:47 PM (AcTdG)

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