"Failure Theater," Or Why I Am Now a Democrat

Someone Storified this for me.

I'm done.

Posted by: Ace at 05:08 PM




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Posted by: MSMfly at March 03, 2015 05:08 PM (bJm7W)

2 maybe I'll start voting libertarian again. Or maybe we'll get lucky with someone like Walker in 2016, but you know the MSM will go after his twice as hard as they went after Palin.

Posted by: mallfly at March 03, 2015 05:09 PM (bJm7W)

3 hey, serious you guys, new thread.

Posted by: mallfly at March 03, 2015 05:10 PM (bJm7W)

4 I really, really hope Boehner doesn't survive this.

Metaphorically speaking, of course, though I'll admit I have worse thoughts.

We put this shit in power, and he runs off and does this.

No excuse. I've got a five-digit check ready for his primary opponent.

Posted by: JEM at March 03, 2015 05:10 PM (o+SC1)

5
Summon el Corguenos de muertos!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:10 PM (CMkNk)

6 wall, Ace, I guess it's just you and me. Unfortunately, I only have enough vodka formyself

Posted by: mallfly at March 03, 2015 05:10 PM (bJm7W)

7
Enjoy Pelosi's gums, Ace.

Posted by: JJ Stone at March 03, 2015 05:11 PM (nbgPm)

8 our tax dollars at work

seriously, when I write that check to the IRS, it's good to know it'll be paying EITC checks to illegal immigrants.

Posted by: brak at March 03, 2015 05:11 PM (Tj+s6)

9 So you are unhappy with Republicans because they act like Democrats yet you say you will then become a Democrat.


This is not logical.

Posted by: Spock Still Lives at March 03, 2015 05:12 PM (wlDny)

10 I dunno, may as well vote for a 3rd party. If there is really that much passion out there to vote Not-Republican, I think it is wiser to give that to a 3rd party so that both sides get a slap in the face.

Posted by: arcadehero at March 03, 2015 05:12 PM (27BfC)

11 ok, here's a preposition: we go all out to get a real conservative for Pres in 2016 and primary the siht out of people like Bonehead.
Yeah, I know, fat chance. I'll write in Michael Moore.

Posted by: mallfly at March 03, 2015 05:12 PM (bJm7W)

12
The problem in DC is structural and more than likely will not be solved with just elections.

It's why I'm in favor of the Article V process. It is the duty of the state legislators to take back their authority and reestablish the 9th and 10th Amendments.

DC will not reform itself. So, the above and also defeating the RINO's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:12 PM (CMkNk)

13 He'll be back.

Posted by: The Republican Establishment at March 03, 2015 05:12 PM (r75HN)

14 I was done over a year ago, and the only reason I held on that long was out of respect for my CINC, R. Reagan. Registered with the Conservative Party.

Posted by: Dick Poulin at March 03, 2015 05:13 PM (sMt7r)

15 I should have added, we need a UKIP for the USA. I would think there is enough anger out there now for something to gain traction in the 3rd party world

Posted by: arcadehero at March 03, 2015 05:13 PM (27BfC)

16 9 our tax dollars at work

seriously, when I write that check to the IRS, it's good to know it'll be paying EITC checks to illegal immigrants.
Posted by: brak at March 03, 2015 05:11 PM (Tj+s6)


Want to bring down the shit house faster? Hide as much income as you can. Where feasible, demand cash as payment.

Starve the beast.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:13 PM (CMkNk)

17 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 03, 2015 05:14 PM (kff5f)

18 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 03, 2015 05:14 PM (kff5f)

19 10 This is not logical.
Posted by: Spock Still Lives at March 03, 2015 05:12 PM (wlDny)


Norman Podhoretz! Coordinate!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:15 PM (CMkNk)

20 I see the trolls are out in force today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 03, 2015 05:15 PM (wlDny)

21 Yes. Poke the Ewok.

That's always the best plan.

Posted by: Garrett at March 03, 2015 05:15 PM (r75HN)

22 20 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 03, 2015 05:14 PM (kff5f)


Salted earth. It's what's for dinner in North Korea. Minus the salt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:15 PM (CMkNk)

23 Storify my brother!

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 03, 2015 05:16 PM (i55o+)

24 75 GOP congressmen.

we can punish them.

I wonder if they're super amensty lovers or just scared of the 1996 lessons of the worst thing to ever happen to the GOP, shutdown theater which led to clinton's plurality win in 1996.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 03, 2015 05:16 PM (wlWrh)

25 goodbye, ron. Libelous claims, you'll be shocked to hear, are banworthy.

You don't get to just make up whatever lie you like about me.

Posted by: ace at March 03, 2015 05:16 PM (E+pqw)

26 Wow. This is a must read. Thanks.

Posted by: Robert17 at March 03, 2015 05:16 PM (19WHj)

27 Salted earth. It's what's for dinner in North Korea. Minus the salt.


And the earth.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 05:17 PM (HZJjy)

28 fuck em all....

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:17 PM (Bn6aD)

29 2013: shut down the government
2014: win control of the Senate

there is a lesson in here somewhere, I just can't put my finger on it.

Posted by: mallfly at March 03, 2015 05:17 PM (bJm7W)

30 Not to rub salt in the wound, but just as a way of explaining things, this is exactly why I was so pissed off to learn that the GOP had promised Scott Brown that they wouldn't shut down the government again if he'd run in NH.

Writing the script for Failure Theater.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 05:17 PM (MYCIw)

31 29 Salted earth. It's what's for dinner in North Korea. Minus the salt.


And the earth.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 05:17 PM (HZJjy)


In Soviet Korea, Earth eat YOU!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:17 PM (CMkNk)

32 Posted by: Ron Dayne at March 03, 2015 05:14 PM (klYSh)

You can take your tiny penis to HotAir.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 03, 2015 05:17 PM (MMC8r)

33 I almost feel bad that Ace didn't post my Profanity Laced Rant.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 03, 2015 05:18 PM (kff5f)

34 No excuse. I've got a five-digit check ready for his primary opponent.

Posted by: JEM at March 03, 2015 05:10 PM (o+SC1)

You're one of the few that can scratch off a 5 digit check in this country.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 03, 2015 05:18 PM (wVWRM)

35 I should have added, we need a UKIP for the USA. I would think there is
enough anger out there now for something to gain traction in the 3rd
party world


Promise to strip non taxpayers of voting privileges for starters.

By executive order, as that's apparently how things are done these days.

Posted by: Methos at March 03, 2015 05:18 PM (A6vWB)

36 I see Ryan among the 75.


What a swell pair we ran in '12. Just swell.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 03, 2015 05:18 PM (LA7Cm)

37 32 Posted by: Ron Dayne at March 03, 2015 05:14 PM (klYSh)

You can take your tiny penis to HotAir.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 03, 2015 05:17 PM (MMC8r)


I think it's called an "innie."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:18 PM (CMkNk)

38 Don't be stupid. The Serpent tempted a weak Eve and now you're turning toward the Serpent for his success?

The Republican party has devolved into a racket. It's understandable. It's not good, it's greedy, but this kind of thing always happens.

The Democrats, OTOH, are evil. They'll make you work, tax you heavily, and then fund something such as abortion. Then they'll rub it in your face.

Demonrats.

Buy ammo and REMEMBER THESE TIMES!

Posted by: Black&White at March 03, 2015 05:18 PM (flqWO)

39 Let me go make some popcorn...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2015 05:19 PM (dMVEi)

40 I voted for Kodos

Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 03, 2015 05:19 PM (IDj42)

41 Be still my heart. What a way to delurk.

Posted by: nightowl197395 at March 03, 2015 05:19 PM (82sOM)

42 Remember folks - the surviving GOPe CONgress critters don't mind being in the minority - all the perks for about 1/4 the "work".

It's precisely why the entire rotting fish needs to be purged from head to tail. Wholesale Whig-treatment.

Posted by: DocJ at March 03, 2015 05:19 PM (zrsn3)

43 And it storified me, to my soul
Storified me, just like going home
Yeah, it storified me.

Posted by: Van Morrison at March 03, 2015 05:19 PM (r75HN)

44 36 I see Ryan among the 75.


What a swell pair we ran in '12. Just swell.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 03, 2015 05:18 PM (LA7Cm)


I'm sure Jen from the last thread has a reasonable explanation for Mr. Ryan.

Uh, huh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:19 PM (CMkNk)

45 43 And it storified me, to my soul
Storified me, just like going home
Yeah, it storified me.
Posted by: Van Morrison at March 03, 2015 05:19 PM (r75HN)


Great song.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:20 PM (CMkNk)

46 Good news about amensty, if it can be called that, is that more diversity impossible in my neighborhood. Any increase of New Americans will make it monolithic Hispanic and that would be bad because we need diversity to live fulfilling lives, plus no more low wage jobs around here. So the libs will have to welcome them into their own neighborhoods and schools in places like San Fran and Madison, which I'm sure will give their compassionate hearts a thrill.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 03, 2015 05:20 PM (1BQGO)

47 "there is a lesson in here somewhere, I just can't put my finger on it."



Totes, yo.

Posted by: Johnny "Weepy" Boner at March 03, 2015 05:20 PM (LA7Cm)

48 I could never register as a Democrat... I am a registered Independent....

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:21 PM (Bn6aD)

49 The Democrats, OTOH, are evil. They'll make you work, tax you heavily, and then fund something such as abortion. Then they'll rub it in your face.

And the Gods of the Copybook Headings will return that much sooner.

Which is, I believe, the point.

Though, honestly, if enough of the punditry got on board, and even just a few of the really Conservative politicians did so, and just a few of the big donors did, we could have a real 3rd party in 2 years. maybe less.

But the punditry has (as a rule, until now) pooh-poohed the idea, the politicians are too afraid to do it, and the donors don't want to waste their money.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 03, 2015 05:21 PM (kff5f)

50 " The worse , the better " Words to live by and drink by . The worse , the better .

Posted by: jaytrain at March 03, 2015 05:21 PM (uvj0z)

51 40 I voted for Kodos
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 03, 2015 05:19 PM (IDj42)


You voted for Kodos.
You'll settle for Koskinen.
You'll get Kos.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:22 PM (CMkNk)

52 This one was my favorite:

"Either we get some *consequences* for this betrayal right now or I swear to you motherfuckers we will have some in 2016. - Ace
2:05 PM - 3 Mar 2015

The next tweet said "Your choice."

Posted by: L, Elle at March 03, 2015 05:22 PM (6J/xZ)

53 I see obama had to attack Bibi's speech... that arrogant POS...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:22 PM (Bn6aD)

54 It was stupid for them to even start this charade... Did they think Obama wouldn't veto it even if it did get through Congress?

But we all knew defunding amnesty would never get through Congress from the start. Why go through the motions just to look like a dumb ass?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 03, 2015 05:22 PM (4+IgA)

55 Ace. Can you update with the roll?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 03, 2015 05:22 PM (wVWRM)

56 Did I mention I hate Boehner?

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:23 PM (Bn6aD)

57 BTW, MUMR is late-hitting the "bye-bye GOP" thread.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 03, 2015 05:23 PM (2KB+E)

58 What's the Republican equivalent of The Blue Dogs?

Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 03, 2015 05:23 PM (IDj42)

59 2013: shut down the government
2014: win control of the Senate
***
not to mention...
2008-2010 as the libs would have you believe super-unpatriotic terrorists in congress keep obama from being clear and thereby threaten economic future of america while obama bravely decreases debt from $10T to $18T. The net result of being the party of no and so on and so forth (not to mention being the party of "trash" white people who are old and should just die soon so new americans can take over already) is:

2010 gain control of house

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 03, 2015 05:24 PM (wlWrh)

60 53 I see obama had to attack Bibi's speech... that arrogant POS...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:22 PM (Bn6aD)


Thin-skinned, narcissistic, egotistical and wrong about everything.

He couldn't resist, despite having the MFM and Dems go apeshit afterwards with remarks prepared days in advance, no doubt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:24 PM (CMkNk)

61 Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Posted by: Cloward ampersand Piven at March 03, 2015 05:24 PM (OVx7B)

62 That while 140 Character thing just kinda flew over ace's head, huh?

Posted by: garrett at March 03, 2015 05:24 PM (r75HN)

63 I'm done voting for what was damn near a straight Republican ticket since the year 2000.

I'm done voting.

There is no political solution to tyranny.

[Insert obvious answer to tyranny here.]

Posted by: Black&White at March 03, 2015 05:24 PM (xcHSl)

64 Many times ppl have pointed out that "politics are local" and/or suggested we direct our attention locally.

With that in mind, I have been toying with switching party registration (to Dem), because here in Utah the GOP is so incestuous and Establishment-y that they really don't listen to an individual Republican. But the Ds here (who, let's face it, are not a helluva worse than the crony Rs) are desperate. So I figure if I were a Dem in Utah I could get elected to office. As a Republican, especially an "outsider" Republican, I have no chance.

On the national level, I think we've reached a point where resurrecting "blue dogs" from the Democrat party is about as feasible as getting the national GOP to do what we elected them to do. I am definitely open to it.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 05:24 PM (9BRsg)

65 Charles Cooke is definitely celebrating this development. I don't get why Ace backed off that claim.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at March 03, 2015 05:24 PM (UtEx8)

66
Poor, Ace! He needs an emergency BJ to cheer him up -- stat!
Who's going to volunteer?

Being older, I find myself slowly withdrawing from the world. When I'm dead I will have no worries and it is looking better and better to me.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 03, 2015 05:24 PM (iQIUe)

67 what other issues can we cave on? Cause I figure ace is right and we need to cave on all the ones that affect the rich.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 03, 2015 05:25 PM (wlWrh)

68 GOP... the lace whig party

Posted by: phreshone at March 03, 2015 05:25 PM (LoIJo)

69 You voted for Kodos.
You'll settle for Koskinen.
You'll get Kos.


Daily.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 05:26 PM (HZJjy)

70 GOP... the lace whig party

The lace panty party...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:26 PM (Bn6aD)

71 Oh hey, look, the worsening is already beginning.

Obama:

"We have a great opportunity...to really transform how we think about community law enforcement relations"

and

"I expect our friends in the media to really focus on what's in this report and pay attention to it"

Link in sig to said report

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 05:27 PM (MYCIw)

72 fire, stones, salt... some assembly required

Posted by: phreshone at March 03, 2015 05:27 PM (LoIJo)

73 "I expect our friends in the media to really focus on what's in this report and pay attention to it"

Link in sig to said report

Yes, the take over of Law enforcement is nearly complete...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:27 PM (Bn6aD)

74 Is there a reason Ace that you are skipping the middle ground of being a Libertarian or an independent, and just going full Donk? Admittedly it allows the LiB to happen sooner, but it sounds awfully painful.

Now that you are Donk, can you actually feel your brain cells and apathy centers shutting down, or is it more of a gradual process? You might also need to start up a Tumblr, all the cool SJW democrats have a Tumblr I hear.

Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 05:27 PM (yRwC8)

75 Well, okay, but I can't join you guys in your new party if it's pro-abortion (and it will be, I know).

I guess I'll just have to head for the hills and lament the state of things without a party.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at March 03, 2015 05:28 PM (YZcNj)

76
What sucks the most is that we're finally facing the reality that it has been Our Side that has been getting our shine boxes for the last 10 years.

We're the bitches.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 05:28 PM (omuEe)

77 (R)eady or not, here it comes!

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 05:28 PM (QCo5R)

78 67 what other issues can we cave on? Cause I figure ace is right and we need to cave on all the ones that affect the rich.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 03, 2015 05:25 PM (wlWrh)


Even if DHS was defunded, Obama would sign another executive order and take money directly from the treasury, like he did to reimburse the insurance companies.

The only thing the GOP could have done - should have done - was go against this shit on principle if nothing else. And we know what happened there.

I don't know if people realize just how well and truly fucked we are.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:28 PM (CMkNk)

79 O.T.-but It cheered me up a little, group of black pastors chided CBC for skipping Netanyahu's speech which they called an insult to Israel and an insult to God:

http://tinyurl.com/lkwkl3y

I think it's not a good idea to insult God.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:28 PM (DXzRD)

80 I thought Ace's reference to abortion was good. Perfect GOPe issue. They can pound the podium and get the Xtians all worked up about it and yet never have to actually do anything.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 03, 2015 05:28 PM (XUKZU)

81 Barbara Comstock is, er, was my rep. She's dead to me now.

Posted by: pep at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (4nR9/)

82 @34 - it'd be my only political contribution in 2016 if I did so but I'd like nothing better than to see this scum ejected.

I'm hoping it will not be necessary and that there will be a Brutus to Boehner's Caesar.

We need a different Speaker, one who really Speaks for the caucus, much sooner than 2016.

Posted by: JEM at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (o+SC1)

83 yo !!

Vote for me


I can tatally fix this country

Posted by: Jeb Bush 2016 at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (W6iIX)

84 golfman-- do you have a link to the roll call? I don't have it.

Posted by: ace at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (E+pqw)

85 Is there a reason Ace that you are skipping the middle ground of being a Libertarian
---

Libertarians aren't the middle ground.

I've looked at their candidates over the years and have never found one at ANY level for whom I could pull the lever.

Sadly, same problem with the Constitution Party candidates I've evaluated.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (9BRsg)

86 Can we ramp up production now???

Posted by: Pitchfork and Torch Manufacturing Association at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (LoIJo)

87 I'd vote for a Third Party but I'm still waiting for a Second Party to come into existence

Posted by: kbdabear at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (GrXXa)

88 The Storify format works for Ace's writing style. Whether you agree or not, buy in or not, that's about as clearly stated yet measured and nuanced a position as I've seen Ace produce.

Posted by: Wax the Gunter Flog at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (lqeGC)

89 83 I can tatally fix this country
Posted by: Jeb Bush 2016 at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (W6iIX)


Bodacious tattaly's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:30 PM (CMkNk)

90 Mmmm....amnesty? You got it! Ooooohhhh yeah.....minimum wage? Just schedule a presser for Monday where I can act mad......*moans*...then I'll pass a bill for you on Friday, sugartits.

Posted by: Boehner being gummed under desk by Pelosi at March 03, 2015 05:30 PM (q37Kv)

91 Man, this is so different from the last time R's had power in Washington. Oh wait, no it's not.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 05:30 PM (QCo5R)

92 I think it's not a good idea to insult God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:28 PM (DXzRD)

Too late.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 03, 2015 05:30 PM (wVWRM)

93 Well you all have not eliminated me yet either.


nah, nah you republicans

Posted by: Dept. of Education at March 03, 2015 05:30 PM (W6iIX)

94 "Link in sig to said report "


There a Cliffs Notes version by any chance?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 03, 2015 05:30 PM (LA7Cm)

95 ...... you know...

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at March 03, 2015 05:31 PM (LoIJo)

96 Go for it Br'er Ace!

Let's toss Br'er Progressive into that there briar patch!

Posted by: Br'er Hat at March 03, 2015 05:31 PM (0Ew3K)

97 Does anyone have a link to the vote? I want to know who voted for and against this.

It would be great if links to the vote were included in posts like this. We need to name names. Boehner didn't act alone.

Posted by: RobM1981 at March 03, 2015 05:31 PM (zurJC)

98 >>Is there a reason Ace that you are skipping the middle ground of being a Libertarian or an independent, and just going full Donk?



10000 Quatloos on 'Spite'.

Posted by: garrett at March 03, 2015 05:31 PM (r75HN)

99 86 Can we ramp up production now???
Posted by: Pitchfork and Torch Manufacturing Association at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (LoIJo)


No.


Dept. of Pitchfork and Torch Manufacturing

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:31 PM (CMkNk)

100 The Republicans are already a turd party.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 05:31 PM (QCo5R)

101 There a Cliffs Notes version by any chance?

Yeah, basically obama wants to federalize law enforcement though He doesn't come right out and say it...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:31 PM (Bn6aD)

102 Can we ramp up production now???

Posted by: Pitchfork and Torch Manufacturing Association at March 03, 2015 05:29 PM (LoIJo)

Yes, and quite cheaply, apparently.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 05:31 PM (QCo5R)

103 Foolproof plan ya got there Ace!

Posted by: Hardcore Right Winger from Conservative Utopia of California at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (0Ew3K)

104 See, you have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House... this is just what I would have done.

Posted by: John McCain at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (LoIJo)

105 I really hope someone competent decided to primary Boehner. And I hope they beg and plead with Brat to give them his campaign manager.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (1thmY)

106 They can pound the podium and get the Xtians all worked up about it and yet never have to actually do anything.

Abortion is just an 'organizing issue' to the governing class. It's there to rally the base in the way you want them rallied (both pro- and con-). No action is ever intended.

There's a lot of issues like this.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (MMC8r)

107 Figured you did.

Probably was in the last thread. Looking.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (wVWRM)

108 We can play the long game where we elect more young conservatives and win some of the battles or we can play the long game where we leave to build up a new party and win none of the battles. Both means have the same end, but only one of them give the Democrats a lifeline they desperately need. Obama's not going to be around forever, and he's done major damage to that party.

Posted by: RedStick at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (k6J0K)

109 I just checked Weasel Zippers and they don't have a roll call yet; something I've noticed in the past they're usually pretty quick about posting.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (2KB+E)

110 This plan of yours to get what you want by voting for democrats seems pretty solid and well thought out. It's like you were an apprentice for Machiavelli's retarded step-brother.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (+lsX1)

111 Shhh! Don't tell anyone but Hollywood and D.C. hate our fvcking guts. The only question is whether they lie to us because they hate us or hate us because they have to lie to us.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (XUKZU)

112 Time to take some scalps

Posted by: theworldisnotenough at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (dXobp)

113 91 Man, this is so different from the last time R's had power in Washington. Oh wait, no it's not.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 05:30 PM (QCo5R)


George W. Bush, with both houses, spent more than every US president combined until SCOAMF, then expanded Medicare and No Leftist Child's Behind.

Great job restoring the republic and shrinking the leviathan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:33 PM (CMkNk)

114 Well, okay, but I can't join you guys in your new party if it's pro-abortion (and it will be, I know).

Why would it have to be?

A viable pro-choice, pro-Constitution abortion position: "We oppose any legislation by Congress regarding abortion, and view Roe v Wade as bad law because it usurped a power "reserved to... the States" by the Constitution. We support any over-turn, by law or decision, of Roe v Wade, and believe that this issue should be decided by the states."

Honestly, that's the best pro-Life position, too. Personally I would support a personhood amendment (which would make abortion unconstitutional), but it's never going to happen, so you'll never see me actively advocating it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 03, 2015 05:33 PM (kff5f)

115 So with all this shit news and some bad news in my personal life, maybe we can have some cute kitty and puppy videos?


Or maybe I'll just go drink.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 03, 2015 05:33 PM (KuU4f)

116 Libertarians aren't the middle ground.

I've looked at their candidates over the years and have never found one at ANY level for whom I could pull the lever.



Read their platform. Dem Lite.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 05:33 PM (HZJjy)

117 87 I'd vote for a Third Party but I'm still waiting for a Second Party to come into existence.

Posted by: kbdabear
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^ this ×10

Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2015 05:33 PM (dMVEi)

118 Ricardo, I can't link to it because of some combination of pixy/my computer, but if you go to 7.1 in the report you'll see the recommendations.

The biggest one?

Create a National Policing Practices and Accountability Division within the COPS Office.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 05:33 PM (MYCIw)

119 "This plan of yours to get what you want by voting for democrats seems pretty solid and well thought out."



It's like sailing west to get to the east.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 03, 2015 05:34 PM (LA7Cm)

120 Charles Cooke is definitely celebrating this development. I don't get why Ace backed off that claim.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at March 03, 2015 05:24 PM (UtEx
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Yeah, this was pretty dishonest. I remember him tweeting about executive amnesty that he actually agrees with the policy but abhors the procedure. And you cant trust JeffB anyway, fucking liberal weasel. Ace shouldnt have apologized.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at March 03, 2015 05:34 PM (3uNuH)

121 Ace, here's the roll - http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll109.xml

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:34 PM (cL79m)

122 112 Time to take some scalps
Posted by: theworldisnotenough at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (dXobp)


How?

Posted by: Fauxcahontas Warren at March 03, 2015 05:34 PM (CMkNk)

123 36 I see Ryan among the 75.


What a swell pair we ran in '12. Just swell.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 03, 2015 05:18 PM (LA7Cm)


I'm sure Jen from the last thread has a reasonable explanation for Mr. Ryan.

Uh, huh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:19 PM (CMkNk)

Why the hell would I have any explanation for Ryan? He's not my congressman.

I guess unless someone has a post that includes the word "fuck" sixty times or an anal reference, their posts are no longer welcome here. And god forbid you point out any kind of actual reality, you'll be labeled some kind of RINO apologist.


Posted by: Jen the original at March 03, 2015 05:34 PM (zuDPz)

124 119 "This plan of yours to get what you want by voting for democrats seems pretty solid and well thought out."

Even though it goes against everything I believe in, at least I'd pick a "winner" ....

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:35 PM (Bn6aD)

125 So were in full "Burn It Down" mode?

Posted by: EC at March 03, 2015 05:35 PM (doBIb)

126 Will nobody throw us a bone? And I'm not talking about a 5-1/2" roll of quarters, I'm talking a fat, meaty T-bone, baby!

Posted by: Fritz at March 03, 2015 05:35 PM (dVmLD)

127 @118

national police?

What could go wrong?!

Posted by: Stassi Commander, Comrade at March 03, 2015 05:35 PM (AkOaV)

128 >>Read their platform. Dem Lite.

Yep and their candidates really are wackadoos.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 05:35 PM (9BRsg)

129 Steveegg to the scene!

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 03, 2015 05:36 PM (wVWRM)

130 I choose the plan that means RedStick and the Chamber of Commerce lose a series of votes they really want in a row and come to appreciate that the Republican Party either advances the bases interest in addition to its own or gets used to losing.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at March 03, 2015 05:36 PM (UtEx8)

131 My asshole congressman voted Yea.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 05:36 PM (MYCIw)

132 I'm a Woman without a party...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:36 PM (Bn6aD)

133 Scalps are good, but the claw is the meatiest part of the Great Plains Crab.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at March 03, 2015 05:36 PM (r75HN)

134 As I've been saying, the RepublicRATs, as the minority half of the bipartisan Party-In-Government, wanted the amnesty more than the credit for the amnesty. When push comes to shove, they'll simply melt back into the DemocRAT Party like their Federalist forefathers.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:36 PM (cL79m)

135 Charles Cooke has kind of gone off the rails.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (9BRsg)

136
maybe I'll start voting libertarian again. Or maybe we'll get lucky with someone like Walker in 2016,

establishment republicans won't let walker anywhere near the nomination

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (lKyWE)

137 Making it burn only works when most of the people left in the aftermath are willing to rebuild America properly.

America has been too "fundamentally transformed". Once the Progressives have exercised absolute power, there won't by any freedom left and scant few who remember it.

Anything that rises up from the ashes won't have any resemblance to what made America, America.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (0Ew3K)

138 See, being a demorat, Ace has no need to be embarrassed about his actions or words, nor the actions or words of those he helps elect. Besides Party Members are more equal than all the others.

My long game to take over the institutions of America, starting with academia, is complete.

Posted by: Nikita Khrushchev at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (LoIJo)

139 The democrats are planning for an apocalyptic post-constitutional society, and the republicans are more worried about taking the blame for it than they are in stopping it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (20Zla)

140 on reflection, ace, I do not like your plan.

How is it going to show the republicans we mean business if their comrades-in-arms get our votes instead of them?

if anything, that'll encourage the r's to get even more d-like.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (AkOaV)

141 123 Posted by: Jen the original at March 03, 2015 05:34 PM (zuDPz)


WHOA!

I never hurled an obscenity at you in my responses, and in fact urged others not to, so don't lie.

Second, you were the big Mitt booster and I believe Mr. Ryan was his running mate; it's a package deal.

And like I explained last time, Mitt would have done NOTHING to reverse the course of the past 6 years let alone the past 100.

Thank you. Now get your shine box.

Posted by: Fauxcahontas Warren at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (CMkNk)

142 [Insert obvious answer to tyranny here.]

Posted by: BlackWhite


Umm...sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll?

Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (/Ho8c)

143 I'm not even going to bother to look up Chaffetz's vote. Once he backed Boehner for Speaker (b/c he was promised a plum committee assignment) he was dead to me.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (9BRsg)

144 TheRickWilson had a great rant on Twitter at about the same time. His thesis is that Republicans are the battered step-children of the Democrats.

They don't have any plan for winning because they're not winners. They put out weak messages to the wrong audience because they don't know what they want or how to get it. They've been smacked around so much they cringe at a raised hand.

Instead of playing the Democrat game of putting landmines in opposition bills that play to a central theme that they unify around and play every sound bite from, they put together press releases for DC area journalists. They have no idea how to talk to conservatives, so instead they're trying to reach out to people who will never embrace them; DC leftists.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 03, 2015 05:38 PM (jhqr1)

145 Renee Fcukin Ellmers.

Sucking landscapers dick.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 03, 2015 05:38 PM (wVWRM)

146 Jen

Keep posting. People are very upset by what took place and so they're taking it out on people around them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:38 PM (DXzRD)

147 Switch to Democrat and then always vote for the ethnic candidate. Watch the SWPL's start to sweat.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at March 03, 2015 05:38 PM (nRvEn)

148 So, couple of thoughts.

GOP is dead. They are not winning another election.

DNC is commie. ACE is not voting for them, neither am I.

Third party? BIG PROBLEM. No, not the uphill road.

How do we weed out the lying weasels and prevent them from joining. We suck at doing it with GOP. So how?

Posted by: Guest at March 03, 2015 05:38 PM (uingK)

149
Perhaps Ace would consider revisiting the Shouty and Screamy idea that many of us are partial to??

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 05:38 PM (omuEe)

150 We joke about this, but my right eye is actually twitching.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 05:38 PM (vPh3W)

151 Anyone know of a site where we can see how our reps voted?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (vPh3W)

152 Making it burn only works when most of the people left in the aftermath are willing to rebuild America properly.

America has been too "fundamentally transformed". Once the Progressives have exercised absolute power, there won't by any freedom left and scant few who remember it.

Anything that rises up from the ashes won't have any resemblance to what made America, America.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (0Ew3K)


Strike the match anyway - may as well die honestly.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (cL79m)

153 Bonhomme-

I think that's a very good analysis:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (DXzRD)

154 You can't water the tree of liberty by handing tyrants an ax and hope they chop their own heads of before they get around to chopping down the tree...

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (0Ew3K)

155 One thing I would like to do is starve the beast in terms of the apparatus that surrounds politicians, not just the politicians.

I want everyone who makes a buck off of elections, from the staffers to the fundraisers to the reporters to the pollsters, to suffer.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (9BRsg)

156 I'm displeased with the situation too, but the blame lies primarily with the Dems who claimed to oppose Obama's illegal amnesty, but still voted to fund it.

But let's say that McConnell somehow got 60 votes on the de-funding bill. What then?

Obama vetoes it and the GOP gets blamed for the DHS "partial shutdown" anyways.

There wouldn't be enough votes for an override, which puts us back to square one.

McConnell folded way too early, yes. However this entire process has been political posturing to begin with. We're crying over a talking point.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (flLTC)

157 Oh, crap. My congressman is among the guilty.

Posted by: Optimizer at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (/q6+P)

158 Old and Busted: Smaller government means more freedom.

New Hotness: Bamophones for everybody. WHEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (8ZskC)

159 For DangerGirl ? Cute puppy videos:

http://tinyurl.com/lx5gy2d

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (DXzRD)

160 Anyone know of a site where we can see how our reps voted?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (vPh3W)


See 121, and realize an indeterminate yet substanital portion of the "nays" were allowed to lie to us.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:40 PM (cL79m)

161 146 Jen

Keep posting. People are very upset by what took place and so they're taking it out on people around them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:38 PM (DXzRD)


Dude. I disagreed with Jen's assessment of a Mitt presidency. I was not taking anything out on her at all.

Thank you.

Posted by: Fauxcahontas Warren at March 03, 2015 05:40 PM (CMkNk)

162 Hola!! I'm here for a fiesta gang bang!

Posted by: Jorge (walking in on Boehner going to pound town on Pelosi) at March 03, 2015 05:40 PM (q37Kv)

163 Afters today's rage fest from the Dems against Bibi, it would be very hard to become one...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:40 PM (Bn6aD)

164 @118

Didn't fine that yet but 5.9.2 is a hum-dinger:

"Law enforcement agencies should implement training for officers that covers policies with interactions with the LGBTQ population, including issues such as determining gender identity for arrest placement....?


So, cup 'em?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 03, 2015 05:40 PM (LA7Cm)

165 Jen

Keep posting. People are very upset by what took place and so they're taking it out on people around them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:38 PM (DXzRD)
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Translation: Stick around! I think you make a glorious punching bag!

Posted by: Elize Nayden at March 03, 2015 05:40 PM (3uNuH)

166 I'm forgetting something, I just know it...

-Paint kitchen with Spaghetti-O's. - Check
-Remove tuna fish from cans and put into available socks. - Check
-Place said socks into garage. - Check
-Remove toilets and place them in the front yard. - Check
-Make sure I have enough marbles and silly string for dinner... there it is!

...I don't have the green silly string I was looking forward to. Store? Red string? Store? Red string?

*flips toilet seat*
::tails::

Red string it is, then.

...I Picked the Wrong Day to Stop Sniffing Dran-O.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 05:40 PM (16bOT)

167 Anything that rises up from the ashes won't have any resemblance to what made America, America.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:37 PM (0Ew3K)

Strike the match anyway - may as well die honestly.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (cL79m)


That's going full Sweden. Never go full Sweden.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (0Ew3K)

168 Anything that rises up from the ashes won't have any resemblance to what made America, America.


I think you're right. I think we're going National Socialist.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (9m68G)

169 Making it burn only works when most of the people left in the aftermath are willing to rebuild America properly.



Plans to wall off Texas are underway for post-burn.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (HZJjy)

170
But let's say that McConnell somehow got 60 votes on the de-funding bill. What then?

--

Let it shut down. Then the democrats are in the position of publicly saying that illegal aliens are more important than Americans. I know the dems were relying on a terror incident for political gain, but publicize that, don't hide it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (20Zla)

171 Almost 240 years, not a bad run..

Posted by: The Founding Fathers at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (LoIJo)

172 unionize the illegals

f*** the restaurants, ag, food processing, housekeeping, hotel, etc industries.

unions for everyone
15$/hr, gold plated healthcare, work rules, no-fire contracts, diversity officers... the whole gambit

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (LWu6U)

173 It's like sailing west to get to the east.

Like, seriously?

Posted by: Queen Isabella of Castile at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (8ZskC)

174 McConnell folded way too early, yes. However this entire process has
been political posturing to begin with. We're crying over a talking
point.


No, there is virtue in clarity, i.e. truth. Unfortunately for the GOP, clarity doesn't enhance their look.

Posted by: pep at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (4nR9/)

175
Anyone know of a site where we can see how our reps voted?

think there is one in the side bar

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (lKyWE)

176 I figure forty or fifty of us can go to Canada and kick it's ass. From there, it'll be easy.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (MMC8r)

177 Platform for a new third party:
1. Secure the border.
2. A check from the Government every month to pay bills.
3. Massive tax hikes on the rich, so massive that we can now pay to give every American in the lower and middle class.
4. Closure of all Corporate loopholes for increased revenue to give everyone a second government check.
5. Flat tax of 10% on all upper middle class.

In short buy off the LIV minority voters with a couple of free checks and then just destroy the Establishment. Grind them into the fucking ground and then piss on them. We can deal with the LIV voters later.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (yh4lQ)

178 Y'know, yesterday was Texas Independence Day.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (MYCIw)

179 This is what let it burn have been saying for years now. We're past the point of saving this version of America. It can't be fixed, and the only way is to get through the bad times first. Better the sooner in and done than delaying it. Vote for the worst possible candidate, it simply doesn't matter at this point.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (39g3+)

180 Instead of giving up, why not work on the Convention of the States project? Elect good candidates at the local level? Continue to try to save the culture, by espousing conservative principles on your blog?

Blindly supporting the GOP, meh!! Support those candidates that act consistent with their conservative campaign promises.

Posted by: Scoob at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (BFk4h)

181 I'm a Woman without a party...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:36 PM (Bn6aD)



Wanna party? Heh. How you doin'?

Posted by: Bob Filner, Graduate, Encounter Groups of Cleveland, Inc. at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (8ZskC)

182 I want everyone who makes a buck off of elections, from the staffers to the fundraisers to the reporters to the pollsters, to suffer.
Posted by: Y-not
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (vPh3W)

183 We can play the long game where we elect more young conservatives and win some of the battles or we can play the long game where we leave to build up a new party and win none of the battles. Both means have the same end, but only one of them give the Democrats a lifeline they desperately need. Obama's not going to be around forever, and he's done major damage to that party.
Posted by: RedStick at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (k6J0K)


--------------------------------------------


This should have been done in the 80's or perhaps as late as the 90's. Doing it now is a non-starter. Main reason: We've run out of time.

Posted by: Soona at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (/HX7u)

184 The Republican party has devolved into a racket. It's understandable. It's not good, it's greedy, but this kind of thing always happens.

The Democrats, OTOH, are evil.
Posted by: Black&White at March 03, 2015 05:18 PM (flqWO)

They are two sides of the same evil coin.

Posted by: 50 Shades of Grey at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (Y92Nd)

185 You can't water the tree of liberty by handing
tyrants an ax and hope they chop their own heads of before they get
around to chopping down the tree...

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (0Ew3K)

Yeah, well, ace gets pissy if anyone suggests doing it the right way.

Posted by: Methos at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (A6vWB)

186 And I'll just leave this here...

When a government has ceased to protect the lives, liberty and property of the people, from whom its legitimate powers are derived, and for the advancement of whose happiness it was instituted, and so far from being a guarantee for the enjoyment of those inestimable and inalienable rights, becomes an instrument in the hands of evil rulers for their oppression.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (MYCIw)

187 Libelous claims,

Libidinous,
Ludicrous,
Licivious,

are all in the AoSHQ style guide however.

Posted by: DaveA at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (DL2i+)

188 I think you're right. I think we're going National Socialist.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (9m68G)


The question is whether we go Trotskyite with the odor of Stalinist (i.e. Obama declares himself Caliph-for-life) or full-on Maoist (Lizzie Warren takes over).

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (cL79m)

189 Hey guys
So anything happen today?

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (u65Ml)

190 Amen, Ace.

Posted by: Crowley at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (heiSW)

191 172 unionize the illegals

f*** the restaurants, ag, food processing, housekeeping, hotel, etc industries.

unions for everyone
15$/hr, gold plated healthcare, work rules, no-fire contracts, diversity officers... the whole gambit
Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (LWu6U)


Okay. NOW I get it. And I'm on board. This is sort of how I debate with leftists. Whatever position they argue, go to the extreme and watch them stammer and stutter.

Perfect.

Posted by: Fauxcahontas Warren at March 03, 2015 05:43 PM (CMkNk)

192 Busy day, come here, and WHOA.

I missed Bibi's speech. Sitting in a meeting that ran over two hours.

I keep saying, "I give up." That's my pussi-fied self saying that.

I owe more to the sacrifice and bravery of the men and women who count on us to elect their CiC. My veteran son, included.

I refuse to cave.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 05:44 PM (FsuaD)

193 So when is the Vote to Ban the 2nd Amendment rights?

Posted by: Yes means Maybe at March 03, 2015 05:44 PM (7wyDO)

194
Cheez 'n Fucking Crackers, does the Will Of The People mean anything to some of you?

The People do not want what obama is doing. That means if Congress needs to "shut down" part of a useless, corrupt agency, So Be It.

You Do What You Need To Do.
I'm sick of excuses.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 05:44 PM (omuEe)

195 Let it shut down. Then the democrats are in the
position of publicly saying that illegal aliens are more important than
Americans. I know the dems were relying on a terror incident for
political gain, but publicize that, don't hide it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada


Exactly. The battle was lost because our side declined to show up. If you don't like the situation, change it to your advantage. It's called prepping the battlefield, and my ex-side stinks on ice at it. Vote third party.

Posted by: pep at March 03, 2015 05:44 PM (4nR9/)

196
So when is the Vote to Ban the 2nd Amendment rights?

--

No vote, executive action

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 03, 2015 05:44 PM (20Zla)

197 >>So, cup 'em?



But don't, necessarily stuff 'em.

Posted by: McGruff at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (r75HN)

198 171 Almost 240 years, not a bad run..
Posted by: The Founding Fathers at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (LoIJo)


More like 140. I stop at about 1913.

Posted by: Fauxcahontas Warren at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (CMkNk)

199 >>>172 unionize the illegals

f*** the restaurants, ag, food processing, housekeeping, hotel, etc industries.

unions for everyone
15$/hr, gold plated healthcare, work rules, no-fire contracts, diversity officers... the whole gambit
Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (LWu6U)


Okay. NOW I get it. And I'm on board. This is sort of how I debate with leftists. Whatever position they argue, go to the extreme and watch them stammer and stutter.

Perfect.
.
.
.
.As long as everyone is prepared to start paying double and triple for pretty much everything, I can get on board.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (4oSLk)

200 I owe more to the sacrifice and bravery of the men and women who count on us to elect their CiC. My veteran son, included.

I refuse to cave.

Well said.... Right now I'm just soooo pissed about this "vote." and the treatment Bibi got from this administration...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (Bn6aD)

201 ...

The necessity of self-preservation, therefore, now decrees our eternal political separation.

We, therefore, the delegates with plenary powers of the people of Texas, in solemn convention assembled, appealing to a candid world for the necessities of our condition, do hereby resolve and declare, that our political connection with the Mexican nation has forever ended, and that the people of Texas do now constitute a free, Sovereign, and independent republic, and are fully invested with all the rights and attributes which properly belong to independent nations; and, conscious of the rectitude of our intentions, we fearlessly and confidently commit the issue to the decision of the Supreme arbiter of the destinies of nations

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (MYCIw)

202
this party has no fight in it

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (lKyWE)

203
Dishonest Injun sock off!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (CMkNk)

204 The question is whether we go Trotskyite with the odor of Stalinist (i.e. Obama declares himself Caliph-for-life) or full-on Maoist (Lizzie Warren takes over).

How you like-um struggle session, white eyes?

Posted by: Elizabeth "Three Wolf Moon" Warren at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (8ZskC)

205 That's going full Sweden. Never go full Sweden.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:41 PM (0Ew3K)


Three words - Swedish. Bikini. Team.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (cL79m)

206 My local rep (Young - IN) voted for this shit as well. Color me totally not shocked. That guys came out guns blazin' for Boehner.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (9m68G)

207 This plan displays a Biden-level mastery of cunning and strategic deceit. In one way it's like playing three-dimensional chess, but in another, more accurate, way it's like suffering a severe concussion while playing tic-tac-toe.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (+lsX1)

208
But let's say that McConnell somehow got 60 votes on the de-funding bill. What then?

Obama vetoes it and the GOP gets blamed for the DHS "partial shutdown" anyways.

There wouldn't be enough votes for an override, which puts us back to square one.

McConnell folded way too early, yes. However this entire process has been political posturing to begin with. We're crying over a talking point.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (flLTC)
---
I dont completely agree with it, but you should read Rick Wilsons twitter rant, about what the leadership didnt do, which is: all the communications basics.

If we have a leadership that is so dumb that it cant sell a message that says "Democrats care more about tax credits for illegals than for the security of American citizens" we face a leadership that cant be excused any longer. This is not like the Obamacare shutdown, this is actually something Republicans could have scored points on.

That is if they were not endlessly dumb or in lockstep with Democrats.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (3uNuH)

209 DangerGirl, were you saying a few weeks ago you read TWD comics? I used to buy them on kindle but Amazon stopped selling them. Now it's through an app?

Posted by: NCKate at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (MFjeS)

210 The last, desperate, pathetic hope we had was 2012, and we blew it. It was an extremely slim, idiotic hope to begin with, virtually nonexistent, but it was the last little flash if light before the tomb shut and collapsed. The Republic is done, and it has been for years. This vote was just about how quickly we get to the total collapse, not if.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (39g3+)

211 Well this is just delayed anger from that dammed cromnibus deal back before the new GOPs were even sworn in. Knew then that the GOPe's were taking revenge for us rubes putting them in majority and messing up their oh so cushy lives a little bit. Lazy cads, the lot of them.

But let me know when we call for a national strike. I'll volunteer to cover a mortgage payment for someone in that event. Marches are ignored, elections are ignored, but shut down the goods to the FSA and DC would be forced to listen.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (dkExz)

212 I live in Texas and have a Congressman who is reliably conservative. That almost makes it worse for me because I can't really effect any change. Even though it's a meaningless gesture, here's what I just emailed my Congressman:

Speaker Boehner's capitulation today to the President's patently illegal immigration scheme is the last straw for me. He and Majority Leader McConnell are either politically incompetent (doubtful) or obtained the result they desired all along.

I respect your work and understand that you consistently vote conservative and are not individually a problem. Unfortunately, you cannot separate yourself from your party and its feckless leadership. Until leadership changes and I see evidence Republicans in Congress are actually voting consitent with what has historically been vacant conservative campaign rhetoric, I cannot in good conscience support you or any Republican.

Going forward, I will either not vote or will cast a protest vote for another party. In fact, I plan on actively encouraging Republicans and conservatives to work against the Republican Party.

Is this constructive? Maybe not, but I see no other answer. The system has become so corrupt and flawed that it may just be time to let it collapse under the weight of it's own bad decisions and build from the ashes.

I hope you understand that I'm far from alone. The Republican Party has no idea of how fed up their core constituents are with D.C. business as usual.

I'm really typing out this email for cathartic purposes. I have little hope that it will filter through to you or make a difference. But, that's just part of the problem, isn't it?

Posted by: Lurker at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (ny0TR)

213 Dude. I disagreed with Jen's assessment of a Mitt presidency. I was not taking anything out on her at all.

I was not speaking of you; I don't remember who the actual posters were who repeatedly said "Fuck You" to her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (DXzRD)

214 And to think it's only Tuesday
Uggggh

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (3f8gu)

215 This is depressing.

I think I need to go read something with a happy ending, like Debt Of Honor by Tom Clancy.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (6oPFc)

216 176 I figure forty or fifty of us can go to Canada and kick it's ass. From there, it'll be easy.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (MMC8r)


"Look on the bright side. If this is the best they've got, we'll be running this planet inside a month."


--George Taylor

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (CMkNk)

217 67
what other issues can we cave on? Cause I figure ace is right and we need to cave on all the ones that affect the rich.

islam for everyone.

Lets start with sharia at all state funded universities.

I want to see pictures of the women's studies department wearing bedsheets over there heads like those before/after photos of iran

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (LWu6U)

218
The Dems, for all of their faults, largely tell the truth about their political goals. You know they intend to, and will, screw you. The country club Republicans are arguably worse. They win by lying to conservatives and then selling them down the river as soon as humanly possible.
Only by withholding votes by voting for another party, Libertarian, Democrat, whatever, or simply not voting, will they ever be incentivized to do what conservatives want. As it stands now, they have made the calculation, arguably the correct one given the circumstances, that they can tell us to go fuck ourselves and they'll still get our votes.
As it stands now, the only people they represent are the $10,000 per plate donors and the Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: Akdov Telmig at March 03, 2015 05:47 PM (jc4t8)

219 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (DXzRD)


Thanks FS, that was a needed smile.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 03, 2015 05:47 PM (KuU4f)

220 Today is a great example of why you don't vote for the squishes.

Posted by: Just A Guy at March 03, 2015 05:47 PM (CGzAz)

221 This is what let it burn have been saying for years now. We're past the point of saving this version of America. It can't be fixed, and the only way is to get through the bad times first. Better the sooner in and done than delaying it. Vote for the worst possible candidate, it simply doesn't matter at this point.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 05:42 PM (39g3+)


Pro-tip: There won't be an America 2.0.

Once the Proggies get done with it there will not be enough conservative sane people to rebuild America in the face of "fundamentally transformed" fellow former Americans.

Even then, you can not create America from scratch. What made America special came by a freak confluence of events that allowed both liberty and virtue to co-exist and strengthen each other.

You can not impose by direct action America on an unwilling populace.

At best you can preserve a remnant and have that remnant grow.

We need our own Terminus and our own Foundation (or two).

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:47 PM (0Ew3K)

222 McConnell folded way too early.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2015 05:39 PM (flLTC)

You could have saved your fingers the trouble and stopped typing right there. Except you forgot to add that Boehner is an orange, alcoholic, crybaby traitor.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2015 05:47 PM (Y92Nd)

223 including issues such as determining gender identity for arrest placement....?

Awesome. So if I'm ever arrested, I can claim to be cis-pan-trans-sexual and get my own holding cell because I have to be kept with my own kind?

Posted by: bonhomme at March 03, 2015 05:47 PM (jhqr1)

224 Somewhere a pantsuit stained with queefs twitches.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 03, 2015 05:47 PM (oFCZn)

225 212 Posted by: Lurker at March 03, 2015 05:46 PM (ny0TR)


Winner, winner!!!!

Excellent.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:48 PM (CMkNk)

226 Okay. NOW I get it. And I'm on board.


Me too. You know what I'm behind 100%, starting today ...


... increased income tax on the top 1%. I'm talking back to pre-Kennedy rates.


Why not ? Who the fuck do you think supports this amnesty shit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 03, 2015 05:48 PM (9m68G)

227 Hmmm....that's a lot of guns. Someone might get hurt, and we might get blamed for it. Turn the boats around!!! Europe will get used to Hitler after a while.

Posted by: Gens. Boehner & McConnell leading the D-Day assault at March 03, 2015 05:48 PM (q37Kv)

228
i guess you can't put a backbone in a jellyfish

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 05:48 PM (lKyWE)

229 Well..., here's the list of Republicans to be 'Primaried'
Drink deep...

----
1. Benishek
2. Bishop (Mich.)
3. Boehner
4. Bost
5. Brooks (Ind.)
6. Buchanan
7. Calvert
8. Carter (Texas)
9. Coffman
10. Cole
11. Collins (N.Y.)
12. Comstock
13. Costello (Pa.)
14. Curbelo (Fla.)
15. Davis, Rodney
16. Denham
17. Dent
18. Diaz-Balart
19. Dold
20. Ellmers (N.C.)
21. Emmer (Minn.)
22. Fitzpatrick
23. Frelinghuysen
24. Gibson
25. Granger
26. Guinta
27. Hanna
28. Hardy
29. Heck (Nev.)
30. Hurd (Texas)
31. Jolly
32. Katko
33. King (N.Y.)
34. Kinzinger (Ill.)
35. Kline
36. Knight
37. Lance
38. LoBiondo
39. MacArthur
40. McCarthy
41. McCaul
42. McHenry
43. McMorris Rogers
44. McSally
45. Meehan
46. Miller (Mich.)
47. Moolenaar
48. Murphy (Pa.)
49. Noem
50. Nunes
51. Paulsen
52. Pittenger
53. Pitts
54. Poliquin
55. Reichert
56. Rogers (Ky.)
57. Ros-Lehtinen
58. Royce
59. Ryan (Wis.)
60. Scalise
61. Schock
62. Shimkus
63. Simpson
64. Smith (N.J.)
65. Stefanik
66. Stivers
67. Thompson (Pa.)
68. Tiberi
69. Trott
70. Turner
71. Upton
72. Valadao
73. Walden
74. Walters, Mimi
75. Young (Ind.)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 05:48 PM (vPh3W)

230 Let it shut down. Then the democrats are in the position of publicly saying that illegal aliens are more important than Americans.

Given the gravity of the situation I'd have preferred they shut it down for at least a short while, but we both know that the media would have put 100% of the blame on the GOP.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2015 05:49 PM (flLTC)

231 Well, we keyboard commandos can afford to bail, while our sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, husbands and wives sit in sand boxes in Afghanistan and Iraq.

My husband, working his ass off to grow a business in an anti-business environment, is on his way home from work.

Going to make him a nice dinner, so he can go volunteer what little time he has to our Scout troop.

Buckle up, people. Jeebus. I'm as pissed as the rest of you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 05:49 PM (FsuaD)

232 202
this party has no fight in it
Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (lKyWE)


Oh yes it does. It fights We the People every damn day alongside the Marxist/Demokrats.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:49 PM (CMkNk)

233 At best you can preserve a remnant and have that remnant grow.

We need our own Terminus and our own Foundation (or two).

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:47 PM (0Ew3K)


Preferably at a latitude where the wholesale cobalting would also very adversely affect the ObamiNation.

Which rules out Texas.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:49 PM (cL79m)

234 Exactly how I feel. Thank you Ace.

Why should I as a social conservative, fiscal conservative, and a Christian support liars who want politics that are 180 degrees from what I believe.

LiB

Posted by: NJRob at March 03, 2015 05:49 PM (yiJOB)

235
Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:34 PM (cL79m)

Thanks for link! Looks like all my state's congresscritters behaved, for once. Agree Y-Not, was disheartening to see so many of them vote in Boehner. I hope they are part of a coup if one occurs but I doubt it.

Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 05:50 PM (yRwC8)

236 Ok, ok, one more and then I'll stop. I promise.

"These, and other grievances, were patiently borne by the people of Texas, untill they reached that point at which forbearance ceases to be a virtue. We then took up arms in defence of the national constitution."

Ahem.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 05:50 PM (MYCIw)

237 Poor Ace. Sandgina bothering you again?

Pull up your big girl panties. Stop deleting comments that call you out on being a douche. Get back in the game, we need you.

Posted by: Clevon Stepinfetchit at March 03, 2015 05:50 PM (1GLXo)

238 And DangerGirl-Here are some cute cat videos. Just don't ask me for Boobie videos (Not that you would anyway, eh? or you'll get those large birds)

http://tinyurl.com/ok9wfku

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:51 PM (DXzRD)

239 Three words - Swedish. Bikini burka. Team.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:45 PM (cL79m)


FIFY

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:51 PM (0Ew3K)

240
@232
i stand corrected

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 05:51 PM (lKyWE)

241 I'm very much liking the phrase "forbearance ceases to be a virtue."

We're there.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 05:51 PM (MYCIw)

242 This was inevitable... We all knew it was gonna happen... I'm probably more angry at the treatment the Dems gave Bibi...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:52 PM (Bn6aD)

243 239,

"We are the Swedish burka team and we loved guys named Habib!"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 03, 2015 05:52 PM (6oPFc)

244 As long as everyone is prepared to start paying double and triple for pretty much everything, I can get on board.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman



They have been slo-boning us for years at the grocery store. At least I can choose not to go out to eat.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 05:52 PM (HZJjy)

245 These threads are great for repopulating the ignore_user() cookie.

Posted by: DaveA at March 03, 2015 05:52 PM (DL2i+)

246 Just as an aside, I hate Twitter. I hate deciphering tweets. I can't for the life of me figure out its wild attraction for some. Maybe if I was in the media and had to keep up with all the gossip or be left behind, I'd find a way to make it work for me. But, thankfully, I'm not in the media surrounded by obnoxious losers (same reason I opted not to become a teacher). Don't tweet for me, Argentina...

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (fMQoG)

247 FIFY

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 05:51 PM (0Ew3K)


Dude. Stop harshing my memories, because they're all I have left. They're what will keep me from being the first dead in the camps (assuming I live long enough to be carted there).

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (cL79m)

248
I got a mickey baking in the oven. Lemme see if it's done.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (CMkNk)

249 So Boehner's invite to Bibi is Act 3 of Failure Theater, right?

It's the red herring that throws off attention from the true crime of funding amnesty.

Posted by: PJ at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (cHuNI)

250 Buckle up, people. Jeebus. I'm as pissed as the rest of you.
Posted by: Jane
------------------

I'm with you Jane. It's trite, but, quitters never win.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (vPh3W)

251 Posted by: Clevon Stepinfetchit at March 03, 2015 05:50 PM (1GLXo)

Get stuffed.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (9BRsg)

252 >>>I want to see pictures of the women's studies department wearing bedsheets over there heads like those before/after photos of iran

Why stop there? I figure a few random stonings and clitoridectomies and the ladies will be begging to let us back into their bedrooms.

Posted by: Fritz at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (dVmLD)

253 Sorry folks, can't go with you to the Donk side. While I'm frustrated as any of you with the Republican's contentment at being a subservient, opposition party, the Democrats have a sinister, criminal air and record about them that I will never be a part of.

I'm just an old, white guy and will be long gone before the worst of things happen to this country, but my sons' future is too important to give up the fight.

The Republicans are not the future, but God help us if it is the socialists in the Democrat party that inherits the country completely.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (l3vZN)

254 Ace has evolved.

Welcome in, the water's fine.

John Boehner (R,D) is upset though. You are blowing the establishment's cover.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (1Y+hH)

255 Get back in the game, we need you.

There is no game. Its over. Its been over for years. Don't you get it yet? There's no guy we can elect that will turn it around, no party we can form that will fix things, no constitutional convention that will solve the problem.

The problem isn't the politicians, its not the system, its not the president, its not the party. Its the people. America is too full of people who'd rather have tyranny than discomfort, who'd rather be in chains than worried about tomorrow, who'd rather have cheap internet than control their own destiny.

100+ years of leftist push to end the ideas of the founding fathers has finally taken hold in the last 20 years or so. There were barely 30% of the country willing to fight and die to be free in 1776, there's probably not even 3% today.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 05:54 PM (39g3+)

256 249,

What is the name of Boner's failure theater? The King In Orange?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 03, 2015 05:54 PM (6oPFc)

257

I'm with you Jane. It's trite, but, quitters never win.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March

Thanks Mr. Hammer
I'm torn. No way I can vote dem. but I feel I can stay home and not vote

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 05:54 PM (KJLlE)

258 So Boehner's invite to Bibi is Act 3 of Failure Theater, right?

It's the red herring that throws off attention from the true crime of funding amnesty.

Posted by: PJ at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (cHuNI)


That's the last difference between the two halves of the bipartisan Party-In-Government.

One that will be obliterated by hundreds, if not thousands, of ObamiNation nukes in 20-22 months.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:54 PM (cL79m)

259 242 This was inevitable... We all knew it was gonna happen... I'm probably more angry at the treatment the Dems gave Bibi...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 05:52 PM (Bn6aD)

Bibi knocked it out of the park. In fact, his performance is a textbook example for any potential prexy candidate of how to speak directly to the people over the MFM.

America saw him and America loved it. That's all.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:54 PM (CMkNk)

260 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 05:54 PM (39g3+)

Yep. Depressing, but true.

I can't see any real way to change anything.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 05:54 PM (AkOaV)

261 "I got a mickey baking in the oven. "

What the hell is a "mickey."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 03, 2015 05:55 PM (LA7Cm)

262 The f*cking Dems made sure my son and his buddies didn't vote in the last presidential election. They hate the military.

I'll be DAMNED if I'll ever vote Dem. Bastards!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 05:55 PM (FsuaD)

263 Very good e-mail, Lurker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:55 PM (DXzRD)

264 National Mt. Laural rules.

Background -- I came from NJ, where a judge ruled many years ago that cities were discriminating through low density zoning laws. He required (NJ courts have a lot of power) that cities set up high density, low income housing. All cities, towns, villages, enclaves.. every-f-ing-body.

Most got around this by finding a corner and paying off a developer to deal with this requirement without too much damage, but if the laws are written properly,...

I want to see forced diverstity in all these communities. No, in their fucking buildings and on their streets. Make it a requirement that these low income section-8 victims of discrimination have to be on every block in the country, not just destroying quality of life for middle and lower middle income folks trying to get by.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 05:55 PM (LWu6U)

265 aPlaceForGOP.com

Posted by: Senior Living Advisor at March 03, 2015 05:55 PM (W5DcG)

266 261 "I got a mickey baking in the oven. "

What the hell is a "mickey."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 03, 2015 05:55 PM (LA7Cm)


Potato.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (CMkNk)

267 If this is failure theater, it's really bad failure theater.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth Garnell at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (4nR9/)

268 Don't tweet for me, Argentina...
Posted by: kathy
-----------------

Nor I. Never have, never will.
Same for FB. Sure folks..., keep funding Zuckerberg..., rationalize it. Same for google. It's all 'convenient', right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (vPh3W)

269
7
Enjoy Pelosi's gums, Ace.
Posted by: JJ Stone

Joe Pepitone said the best bj was a gum job or so I read

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (KJLlE)

270 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 05:54 PM (39g3+)



What he said.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (dFi94)

271 America is too full of people who'd rather have tyranny than
discomfort, who'd rather be in chains than worried about tomorrow, who'd
rather have cheap internet than control their own destiny.


Chris Taylor ... please come to the podium to accept your prize. Chris. Taylor. Please accept your prize.


This is it. Our only hope is to get the hell away from them. I'm talking Secession.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (9m68G)

272 Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 03, 2015 05:53 PM (l3vZN)

It's OK. The Dems have been winning without you and they will continue to do so easily now that they have picked up millions of new voters.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (1Y+hH)

273 Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 05:55 PM (LWu6U)

Don't forget about the Abbott districts!

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (AkOaV)

274 "My politics is now entirely punitive."

Me too. I'm voting as hardcore left as I can now. I hope Obama seizes a third term. Save me from having to head out on election day.



Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (2VDgx)

275 The f*cking Dems made sure my son and his buddies didn't vote in the last presidential election. They hate the military.

I'll be DAMNED if I'll ever vote Dem. Bastards!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 05:55 PM (FsuaD)


The bad news - we've been voting for the fucking Rats all along. ALL. OF. US.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (cL79m)

276
What is the name of Boner's failure theater? The King In Orange?

cock work orange

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 05:57 PM (lKyWE)

277 So, we're essentially a 1 party nation. Let it burn! I think some people miss the point of the "Let it burn" tag. Its not like I want the nation to collapse or will actively work to "Let it burn". Its just going to happen regardless of what i do. So, I take care of me and my own, the rest of the nation is on its own.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at March 03, 2015 05:57 PM (DQMYs)

278
If I find out...

that anyone...

is ignore-using me...

the shit will get real

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 05:57 PM (omuEe)

279 264 Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 05:55 PM (LWu6U)


5th Avenue and 59th Street, right by the Plaza Hotel and the Sherry Netherland for a start.

Then Park Slope, Brooklyn Heights and the Upper East and West Sides.

Good and hard, libbos. Good and hard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:57 PM (CMkNk)

280 The Democrat Party has been the soul of evil since its inception. I will never vote in favor of it.

But giving power to the GOP simply encourages them to move in that same direction.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 03, 2015 05:57 PM (MMC8r)

281 Just look at the flowers, America.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 05:58 PM (16bOT)

282 Don't worry, I'll fix it


gonna be painful though

Posted by: Math at March 03, 2015 05:58 PM (W6iIX)

283 "Potato. "



Ahhhh. The Irish.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 03, 2015 05:58 PM (LA7Cm)

284 Hat, the minor points of victory aren't worth it anymore. We gave the Republicans one last chance and they blew it. Time to vote Democrat and always vote the most ignorant Democrat possible. Time to destroy the tyranny from within. Let the idiots "run" things long enough and they will soon be passing laws that are ignored.

Posted by: Not Loved Time to be Feared at March 03, 2015 05:58 PM (nRvEn)

285 >>>What is the name of Boner's failure theater? The King In Orange?

The Lion in a Bourbon Haze

Posted by: Fritz at March 03, 2015 05:58 PM (dVmLD)

286 The only way people could be possibly shocked out of their hypnotic gaze in the light of their smartphone is if we had some massive solar EMP that wiped out the internet and most of our gadgets.

I read a great Fabulous Freak Brothers comic once when they decided they'd been doing too many drugs and had to come down. As they became sober, the art became less cartoonish and more and more realistic and detailed, and in the process, the more awful their situation became. Their unwashed clothes, their piles of dirty dishes, the foul condition of the room, the reek of the house... they began to be aware of it all. But only by cutting themselves off from the source of their delusion.

They freaked out and started taking drugs again. But that's what it took to force them to look around and see what life was really like.

Without the internet, without all those gadgets, without the distractions, maybe - just maybe - people might be forced to see what's going on around them and react. Maybe.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 05:58 PM (39g3+)

287 269 Joe Pepitone said the best bj was a gum job or so I read
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 05:56 PM (KJLlE)


Probably got head from Boom Boom Geoffrion.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:58 PM (CMkNk)

288 281 Just look at the flowers, America.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 05:58 PM (16bOT)


Thread winner.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 03, 2015 05:59 PM (oFCZn)

289 Bring back school busing.

Lets start with inner city DC schools busing to Sidwell Friends

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 05:59 PM (LWu6U)

290 I will never vote for a liberal. I don't care which party they run under. If that means staying home, then home I stay.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 03, 2015 05:59 PM (dFi94)

291 "Let it burn". Its just going to happen regardless of what i do. So, I take care of me and my own, the rest of the nation is on its own.


Pretty much my mantra since 2007.

It's not Let It Burn. It's - It's Burning and I'm getting out of the way as much as possible.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 06:00 PM (1Y+hH)

292 289 Bring back school busing.

Lets start with inner city DC schools busing to Sidwell Friends
Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 05:59 PM (LWu6U)


NO! Bus Sidwell Friends to Anacostia.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:00 PM (CMkNk)

293 Where are the martians when You need Them? ack dack!

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:00 PM (Bn6aD)

294 For years now I have subscribed to the Treebeard philosophy of politics:

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qocv2/

Registered independent. The only thing that bugs is being shut out of the caucus/primary round of voting. But I can live with that.

Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:01 PM (yRwC8)

295
Let it burn, indeed. I survived NYC in the 60's and 70's, I can survive any damn thing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:01 PM (CMkNk)

296 WTF is a "storify"???

more weird hipster shit?

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 03, 2015 06:01 PM (yi8ar)

297 Thanks Mr. Hammer
I'm torn. No way I can vote dem. but I feel I can stay home and not vote.


That's my plan. Maybe I'll go hog hunting that day.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 06:01 PM (HZJjy)

298 The only thing that can possibly redeem this day is coming home to Marie Harf in a French maid outfit with a sammich and a cold Shiner Bock. Industrial drum of Astroglide optional.

Posted by: Bruce Jenners Plastic Vag at March 03, 2015 06:01 PM (oti5o)

299 100+ years of leftist push to end the ideas of the founding fathers has finally taken hold in the last 20 years or so. There were barely 30% of the country willing to fight and die to be free in 1776, there's probably not even 3% today.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 05:54 PM (39g3+)


---------------------------------------------


I would say 10%. But probably 5% would only fight on warm, sunny weekends.

Posted by: Soona at March 03, 2015 06:02 PM (/HX7u)

300 Exactly: pull back, ignore the federal level, ignore the politicians. Focus on your family, your friends, your neighborhood, your town. You can't fix the rest, all it does is make your stomach hurt and your hair turn white(r). Kiss them off. This next presidential election is meaningless. Who cares who wins? Its like being elected the guy in charge of the hindenburg as it lights on fire. Good for you. I'm bailin' out.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:02 PM (39g3+)

301 Nice to see you, Grammie. It's been a while. How are you doing?

And I'm with you, I voted for Democrats for 35 years. I will never do so again and haven't since Obama starting running, but I still officially belong to the party so I can tell them off when they call asking for money. I must have told them off enough times because they've stop calling.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 06:02 PM (DXzRD)

302 294 Registered independent. The only thing that bugs is being shut out of the caucus/primary round of voting. But I can live with that.
Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:01 PM (yRwC


I switched to Democrat so the Stasi won't get me and that if I ever run for office, I can fuck them up from within.

I'll just pretend I'm Hank Johnson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:02 PM (CMkNk)

303 Dear Congressman Ryan,

I for one am happy to see that you and your caucus voted to fund the entire DHS bill, including the funding for executive changes to our existing immigration law. I'm sure it pleases you, knowing republicans won't have to go on record voting for an immigration reform law.

Note too, how pleased I am that you and your caucus have taken that threat of defunding off the table, for any issue. We don't need a shutdown of our government for any reason whatsoever. The power of the purse is only exercised when it is opened, after all.

By the way, I can't tell you how pleased I am to know that I can count on you to support policies that benefit all north americans, even if it appears to hurt some in the short term.

Can I count on your continued support of our policies in the future? Just kidding, I know we can.

Posted by: DNC at March 03, 2015 06:02 PM (XmOA9)

304 I would say 10%. But probably 5% would only fight on warm, sunny weekends.
Posted by: Soona at March 03, 2015

Weekends? That will take away from my time at the lake.


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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:03 PM (KJLlE)

305 >> Don't forget about the Abbott districts!

NJ is the source of so many good ideas...
I started typing that one up, but gave up and just said "busing" instead.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 06:03 PM (LWu6U)

306 >>>>Registered independent. The only thing that bugs is being shut out of the caucus/primary round of voting. But I can live with that.
.
.
.Same here, but it does cut down on Primary election stuff. I just tell them sorry I am an Independent, cant vote in the Primaries. Only had two say OK, here is why you should vote for me in the election if I win the Primary.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 03, 2015 06:03 PM (4oSLk)

307 79 I think it's not a good idea to insult God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 05:28 PM

The last 6 years prove that.

Posted by: bibi's boobs destroy at March 03, 2015 06:03 PM (UciHm)

308
Netanyahu/Walker '16!

Posted by: Rasmussen Polling at March 03, 2015 06:03 PM (P330y)

309 As in a European nation. Left and lefter. Anyone not on that side is considered a far right freak.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2015 06:03 PM (W5DcG)

310 only way people could be possibly shocked out of their hypnotic gaze in the light of their smartphone is if we had some massive solar EMP that wiped out the internet and most of our gadgets....

Without the internet, without all those gadgets, without the distractions, maybe - just maybe - people might be forced to see what's going on around them and react. Maybe.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 05:58 PM (39g3+)


More likely, they'll withdraw further. In any case, any "awakening" under those circumstances would occur under circumstances that won't allow for those "awakened" to seize control from the Progs (who most likely, will cause said EMP).

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:03 PM (cL79m)

311 When I think of Dims, I think of crime ridden shitholes like Chicago, Detroit Baltimore, New Orleans and 70s New York. I have no interest in living in any of those places. Nor do I wantit to come here. I will punish those that have betrayed me, but I will not vote Dim.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 03, 2015 06:04 PM (6n332)

312 I'd like to consider an alternate to the Republican Party. The thought of Democrats running everything, even for a few years terrifies me. Especially as it pertains to foreign policy. Idiotic domestic policy we can endure, even overturn at a point. A big mistake in foreign policy means lots of dead Americans. Don't know if I'm willing to risk that.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 03, 2015 06:04 PM (U50PB)

313 .
.Same here, but it does cut down on Primary election stuff. I just tell them sorry I am an Independent, cant vote in the Primaries. Only had two say OK, here is why you should vote for me in the election if I win the Primary.

Me also, but I'm in Ca. so my vote pretty much doesn't count anyway...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:04 PM (Bn6aD)

314

I'll just pretend I'm Hank Johnson.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:02 PM (CMkNk)

Too much melanin

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:04 PM (KJLlE)

315 While we're playing the LiB game-

Fold on campaign finance reform. Because fuck the Chamber of Commerce. $2,500 max individual donation, period.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2015 06:04 PM (flLTC)

316 281 Just look at the flowers, America.


Heh!!

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at March 03, 2015 06:04 PM (DQMYs)

317
I KNOW we can start our own damn party and within a year it will be bigger than the GOP.

The piece on the Sideboob about Vince Vaughn's stock phot spoof shows how much of this world revolves on images and bullshit. It's so easy to mass-market a brand, any brand, today. The only ones who cannot market themselves are the Republicans.

Shit, ISIS is better at market outreach and brand-enhancement than the GOP!

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:04 PM (omuEe)

318 This is it. Our only hope is to get the hell away from them. I'm talking Secession.
Posted by: Scogg
------------------

Hmm. Seems just talking can get you into deep shit these days...., that is, 'incorrect' talking :
http://tinyurl.com/kblbx8f

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 06:05 PM (vPh3W)

319 Weekends? That will take away from my time at the lake.

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:03 PM (KJLlE)


Funny you mention the lake. We have the best small arms.

Posted by: Davey Jones' Navy at March 03, 2015 06:05 PM (cL79m)

320 295


Let it burn, indeed. I survived NYC in the 60's and 70's, I can survive any damn thing.


"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. "

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 03, 2015 06:05 PM (LWu6U)

321 vote Dem and you'll never see political daylight in your lifetime

Posted by: Feh at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (pjBrO)

322 The thought of Democrats running everything, even for a few years terrifies me.

But California, Illinois and NYC are utopia so they tell me.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (W5DcG)

323 Let it burn, indeed. I survived NYC in the 60's and 70's, I can survive any damn thing.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:01 PM (CMkNk)

*bows to you* Though I think you are remembering it wrong; according to hipsters it was a glorious nostalgic time, and they would prefer that to the disneyfied Times Square Hell that is NY now. Precious silly babies they are, insulated from actual suffering.And I love you are registered dem, hah! In certain enclaves of this nation is good to be a double agent.

Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (yRwC8)

324 321 vote Dem and you'll never see political daylight in your lifetime

At least I'd pick a winner for a change...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (Bn6aD)

325
Here comes Levin. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (CMkNk)

326 Failure Theatre, Not Ready For Primetime Politicians

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (KJLlE)

327 meh, they don't need our votes anyway. Progressives and Reps just gave the "dem" party a sold majority for decades.

why do they need old voters when you can have brand new spanking fsa voters?

Posted by: willow at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (nqBYe)

328 Well, my new congress-critter is on the list of 75. How about yours?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 03, 2015 06:07 PM (l3vZN)

329
The f*cking Dems made sure my son and his buddies didn't vote in the last presidential election. They hate the military.I'll be DAMNED if I'll ever vote Dem. Bastards!
Posted by: Jane D'oh



Since the Rs took both houses, how have they done on that issue? Done any work to clean up and ad some teeth to the military voting laws?

Nope.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:07 PM (kdS6q)

330 Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 03, 2015 05:32 PM (+lsX1)

Gristle...!

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 06:07 PM (QCo5R)

331 324 321 vote Dem and you'll never see political daylight in your lifetime

At least I'd pick a winner for a change...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (Bn6aD)

A winner who is willing to fight

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:07 PM (KJLlE)

332 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 06:02 PM (DXzRD)


Hello Fenelon. It's good to see you too. I've kind of been laying low so as to not do further damage to my already depressive state of mind. Trying to listen to more Christian ministry stations and steer clear of politics for a while. As has been said many times upthread, the answers to our problems do not lie within the confines of political parties.

I hope you are well, and enjoying an uplifting Lenten season.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 03, 2015 06:08 PM (dFi94)

333 vote Dem PIG and you'll never see political daylight in your lifetime

Posted by: Feh at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (pjBrO)


ReWrite(TM) engaged for "bi"partisanship.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:08 PM (cL79m)

334 321 vote Dem and you'll never see political daylight in your lifetime

Then do it for your children and grandchildren.

Posted by: painter at March 03, 2015 06:08 PM (3MNCs)

335 It's going to actually be fun now.

I'm going to tell my commie/democrat acquaintances that I've seen the light. They have very nice, large, 401K's, retirement accounts. I don't have that. I don't think it's fair.

I'm for the government seizing them. After all, it's only fair.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 03, 2015 06:08 PM (2VDgx)

336 I won't vote Dem, but I'm going to change my registration from unaffiliated to Dem. Then I'll send a buck when they send the first donation letter, causing them to waste a ton of money sending more stuff to me.

Losing membership is the only way R's will ever see the light.

Won't vote for another liberal Republican for President either. I'll write in someone.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 06:08 PM (1Y+hH)

337 Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (yRwC

Real NYers pine for the good old days of Rudy Giuliani, who cleaned up the crime and the streets but didn't destroy the character of NY.

Bloomberg was the end of the real NY.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2015 06:09 PM (Zu3d9)

338 323 Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:06 PM (yRwC


Oh, darling. You're mistaken. NYC was a shithouse back then and I applauded Disney coming in and cleaning up Times Square.

Anyway, I will infiltrate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:09 PM (CMkNk)

339 After spending almost a lifetime on the left coast, no democrat will ever get my vote.

Posted by: hmmm at March 03, 2015 06:09 PM (adOUE)

340 also perhaps we don't need to worry about voting for very long.
Maybe cuba, iranians , al quaeda, isis, oh every other citizen of the world will just vote for us .

Posted by: willow at March 03, 2015 06:09 PM (nqBYe)

341 The only thing that really surprises me here is that anyone actual, honestly expected this to turn out differently. What part of "we will not shut down the government no matter what" did you not understand? They gave away the only leverage they had. Its like starting a boxing match by saying "I won't block your punches, I promise."

One side is afraid of how they'll look, and the other side gave up caring in 2008. They realized that they can just bull through any bad publicity, ignore the polls, push past any scandals by stonewalling them until the press gives up or is distracted, and rely on a completely compliant, servile journalism corps to help them along.

The Dems stopped pretending they cared what people thought. In other words: they started doing what we've been yelling at the GOP to do for years. They started pushing for what they believed should happen no matter how much it cost them in the polls and its working. In a horrible, evil way, they have a sort of integrity. Its honest evil.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:10 PM (39g3+)

342 Psalms 146:3. Do not put your faith in princes

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:10 PM (zOTsN)

343
And a Federal minimum wage of $15 and hour now! A living wage for the working hermano.

Para los Ninos.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:10 PM (kdS6q)

344
Wow, I am listening to Levin play the standing ovation for BiBi.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:10 PM (CMkNk)

345 Grammie winger proposed cheesehead moron meet up later this month. You up for it?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:10 PM (KJLlE)

346 Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite at the GOP, I'm out of here.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)

347 Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 03, 2015

Well good for you; Sounds like some good choices. Lent's been fine so far; I've been reading a lot of good things and I will begin taking more time off here sometime soon.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (DXzRD)

348 Cuba Libres all around!

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (JO9+V)

349 I'll continue to vote for the few good Republicans like our state treasurer, who is amazing. But otherwise, Libertarian for me. The further toward the anarcho-capitalist side, the better.

Posted by: rfichoke at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (F879m)

350 Kind of sneaky they pulled this amnesty stunt same day as Bibi's speech.

Posted by: Baldy at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (+35FH)

351 Grammie winger proposed cheesehead moron meet up later this month. You up for it?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:10 PM (KJLlE)


You rang?

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (cL79m)

352
Registration, even (often) voting, does not matter that much, so all of The Drama about changing registration by the worthy but small group of people here is pretty beside the point. Most of you live in gerrymandered House districts, for example (forget the number of competitive districts but as a % of 435 it is astonishingly small). Most of us live in "solid" states WRT presidential elections. Bottom line: unless you're in a swing state or exotic/rare competitive district, your vote either makes the rubble bounce or is cancelled out by the dimmest, most clueless, self-dealing, self-righteous, ignorant, racist NPR type next door. Vote, don't vote. No more impact than CO2 on "global average temperature".

As far as third party, as some have pointed out, while our system (at its base) is NOT a two-party system, the existing gigantic inertial coral reef of how things get done on the county and state level DOES make any third party challenge very difficult.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (afQnV)

353 I can't vote dem. I may not vote. But I can't vote dem

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (zOTsN)

354 They're all your enemies, Maet.

Posted by: kartoffel at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (szYND)

355 Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite, I'm out of here.
Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)


You could always just start abortion threads.

That will change the topic real quick. He'll be all over those.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (V+kmg)

356 346
Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite, I'm out of here.


Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)


So am I. This place kept me sane (somewhat) during son's deployment.

If it goes to the Dark Side, I'm done.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (FsuaD)

357 What's wrong with you heartless conservative big business stooges? $15 an hour, how can anyone live on that? If a congressman can't survive on 175k how can you expect a family to live on $31k a year?

$20 an hour, minimum, with retirement and full health coverage. And none of this fascist exemption for restaurants and farms either. The oppression has gone on long enough.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (39g3+)

358 Yeah, I would name his Failure Theater "Look at the flowers, America."

Posted by: PJ at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (cHuNI)

359 So am I. This place kept me sane (somewhat) during son's deployment.

If it goes to the Dark Side, I'm done.

Hopefully this is temporary...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (Bn6aD)

360 Posted by: willow at March 03, 2015 06:09 PM (nqBYe

most of the groups you mentions won't let us vote. It's all taken care of for us

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (KJLlE)

361 345 Grammie winger proposed cheesehead moron meet up later this month. You up for it?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:10 PM (KJLlE)



Where and when? Although I must be truthful, I am terribly shy and probably would not come.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (dFi94)

362 350 Kind of sneaky they pulled this amnesty stunt same day as Bibi's speech.
Posted by: Baldy at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (+35FH)


Finally. Blame the Jooz!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (CMkNk)

363
i could never vote democrat so i'll just stay home

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (lKyWE)

364 >>>> Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)

I'm having a hard time with this sudden turn too. Sigh.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (6J/xZ)

365 The problem if you purposely cede power to the Democrats is that you're really giving power to the far loony tyrannical left. I mean like the real left, not these phonies in power now.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (QCo5R)

366 If it goes to the Dark Side, I'm done.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (FsuaD)


Little Green AoSHQ

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (V+kmg)

367 Love that saying, ThunderB. I had it one one of my whiteboard signs outside once--and the rest after "Put not your trust in princes. is "in mortals in whom there is no hope" which seems quite fitting given "hope and change".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (DXzRD)

368 Third party?
Try second country. At least. I'd prefer more in the range of 10-20, but someone has to start.

Posted by: kartoffel at March 03, 2015 06:14 PM (szYND)

369
Little Green AoSHQ

My fear...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:14 PM (Bn6aD)

370 I'm out of here.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)

Check your contract. I think you owe us 4,100 more ONTs.

Then you can can leave.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2015 06:14 PM (Zu3d9)

371 Oh, and it's nice to see that this episode has finally brought Allen around to making peace with the F word.

Posted by: rfichoke at March 03, 2015 06:14 PM (F879m)

372 ok i'm back to ..
doing as we did in 2010 2014 keep working it.
take the party over from the inside , just as the Progessives DID with the Dems.

i won't vote Ds again. I just can't i CAN obstain but not help em take us down.

Posted by: willow at March 03, 2015 06:14 PM (nqBYe)

373 abstain.

Posted by: willow at March 03, 2015 06:14 PM (nqBYe)

374 Is Ace the new Rick Santelli, igniting a rebellion against the G-O-Powers-That-Be?

(*Rick Santelli is the guy credited with the 2009 rant that helped inspire The Tea Party.)

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:14 PM (K4YiS)

375 Can't say I completely disagree with ace's sentiment, but it's true that the incentive to visit this site will be significantly diminished.



At least for me.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 03, 2015 06:14 PM (xSCb6)

376 >>>While we're playing the LiB game-

Fold on campaign finance reform. Because fuck the Chamber of Commerce. $2,500 max individual donation, period.
.
.
.The Dems will never go for that. They will scream like hell if a really serious move got behind that.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 03, 2015 06:15 PM (4oSLk)

377
Je Suis Ace...

and I mean like the maxi-pad...

Always.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:15 PM (omuEe)

378 346 Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite, I'm out of here.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)

---------

Thank you, Maetenloch.

I'm hoping that Ace cools off and changes his mind about this.
I can't support the Dems, in any way whatsoever.

The 'support-in-protest' thing will get quickly ignored...and it will just register as support.

Posted by: wheatie at March 03, 2015 06:15 PM (XIzXB)

379 For those of you who are switching your allegiance to the majority half of the bipartisan Party-In-Government in hopes of defeating the minority half, they're not going to make the same mistake they did in 1824 and 1852 and allow a second party to form.

Or did you forget what the IRS scandal is all about?

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:15 PM (cL79m)

380 Ace isn't going to be a big Dem booster, he's just got to get this out of his system. I know exactly what he's feeling, having gone through it in 2012. I realized what the country I'm living in is like for the first time, instead of what I hoped it was like. We're in an insane time, run by fools.

Pull back, focus locally, and stay sane.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:15 PM (39g3+)

381 Check your contract. I think you owe us 4,100 more ONTs.

Then you can can leave.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2015 06:14 PM (Zu3d9)


He'll just do 4,100 recipes for Arugula Pizza with Pine Nuts.

The horror. The horror......

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:15 PM (V+kmg)

382 All politicians, all humans, will fail you. Reach higher.

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:15 PM (zOTsN)

383 No fucking way will I ever vote democrat.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2015 06:15 PM (FMbng)

384 355 Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite, I'm out of here.
Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)

You could always just start abortion threads.

That will change the topic real quick. He'll be all over those.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:12 PM (V+kmg)

Hey I'm pro-abortion, anti-God, and open to suggestions to quit smoking. Let's discuss

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:16 PM (KJLlE)

385 There is no way I am voting to pay a salary to someone who wants to take away my guns and kill babies and old people.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 03, 2015 06:16 PM (6J/xZ)

386 I can't pretend to be something I'm not. I didn't leave this country. It left me. I vote no confidence.

Posted by: Feh at March 03, 2015 06:16 PM (pjBrO)

387 The problem if you purposely cede power to the Democrats is that you're really giving power to the far loony tyrannical left.

I think that's the point: if you push things far enough to the left, it will become toxic to even the moron Kardashian-American types.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:16 PM (39g3+)

388 There is no way I am voting to pay a salary to someone who wants to take away my guns and kill babies and old people.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 03, 2015 06:16 PM (6J/xZ)


I've been reliably informed that makes you a racist.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:17 PM (V+kmg)

389 Mt. Laural rules.

It's Laurel, and get that grill off the balcony.


Posted by: DaveA at March 03, 2015 06:17 PM (DL2i+)

390 I think that's the point: if you push things far enough to the left, it will become toxic to even the moron Kardashian-American types.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:16 PM (39g3+)

Or we become Cuba.

Posted by: willow at March 03, 2015 06:17 PM (nqBYe)

391 Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:03 PM (cL79m)

Yeah, hoping for an EMP is barking up the wrong tree. Gov't would have to take everything over because civilian shit isnt hardened against emps, but military stuff is (well, as much as possible).

We all would be fucked though while simultaneously becoming completely reliant on the govt.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 06:17 PM (AkOaV)

392 >I'll never vote Democrat!
Posted by: Everyone

What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: kartoffel at March 03, 2015 06:17 PM (szYND)

393 Rhomboid: US House elections aren't everything. There are also local and state offices that can prove useful in the cause of civil disobedience and nullification. We're going to need to start using more guerrilla tactics.

Posted by: rfichoke at March 03, 2015 06:18 PM (F879m)

394 I think that's the point: if you push things far enough to the left, it will become toxic to even the moron Kardashian-American types.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:16 PM (39g3+)


By the time that happens, the third "One" in One Man, One Vote, One Time will be in effect.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:18 PM (cL79m)

395 Start a petition to restore Reid and Pelosi to leadership in their respective houses. We will end up where we are now anyway, and the GOP will have an excuse for their performance.

Posted by: Jeff P at March 03, 2015 06:18 PM (aosNi)

396
Only interesting (small) exception to the inertial two-party structure/bias of existing electoral law and organization in most states are those with "jungle" primaries (hat tip, er, to the Political Hat, who made this point earlier).

Jungle primaries is a free-for-all, top two vote-getters face off in the "runoff", which is essentially what the normal general election becomes.

In this form of election almost anything is possible. In certain districts it's possible you could pick off worthless GOP seat-warmers with something other than a Dem. But this would almost surely be a case-by-case thing depending on local conditions and personalities/name-recognition. Not "scalable" such that you could actually challenge or take over a state GOP or delegation.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2015 06:18 PM (afQnV)

397
Single payer universal heathcare now! Paid for by fair taxes on corporations and the 1%.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:18 PM (kdS6q)

398
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:10 PM (KJLlE)



Where and when? Although I must be truthful, I am terribly shy and probably would not come.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 03, 2015 06:13 PM (dFi94)

Perhaps March 21st Oneida Casino Green Bay

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (KJLlE)

399 The Dark Side???

Seriously, Ace had an epiphany of sorts today.
I'm sure most of it is just rage, but still, there are those of us here who seem cynical, but end up being right all the time.

It's not dark, it's reality.

Posted by: DNC at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (XmOA9)

400 95 percent tax on all unrealized capital gains in excess of $2 million.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (nFdGS)

401 I'm with Taylor, but the problem is that the feds respect no local.

Posted by: Feh at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (pjBrO)

402 is ignore-using me...

We all have our limits on stupid and not funny.

Posted by: DaveA at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (DL2i+)

403 Latta venting going on 'round here.

That sure was a great speech by Netanyahu though, wasn't it?

Posted by: Geof Francs at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (7q/rb)

404 I think that's the point: if you push things far enough to the left, it will become toxic to even the moron Kardashian-American types.
Posted by: Christopher
------------------

I fear that you do comprehend the sheepishness of the average American. Witness Venezuela, or perhaps Greece. The slow bleed of expectations works every time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (vPh3W)

405 I tell people how to spell bukkake and I tell them. . . .

Posted by: alexthechick at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (vfVD6)

406

my favorite part about today's speech was seeing a frail and weak harry reid [fingers crossed]

my second favorite part of the speech was when the camera did a long take on the evil troll Mikulski and she looked like death warmed over

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (omuEe)

407 403 Latta venting going on 'round here.

That sure was a great speech by Netanyahu though, wasn't it?

A bright spot for sure...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (Bn6aD)

408 if we vote dem , it is possible we'll be facing the abortion of toddlers for the child's sake!

or that we have no judges ever again fighting for our speech rights.

or a mulititude of things i'm not sure we have anyone fighting for us anyay.

sigh.
going back to liv status is not actually a horrible thing.
at least i wouldn't knw the horror that is coming.

Posted by: willow at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (nqBYe)

409
"No fucking way will I ever vote democrat."

So Jeb is no-go?

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (1Y+hH)

410
Damn. Forgot to put wine in the fridge. Gotta wait.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (CMkNk)

411 forgot to change my socks.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (XmOA9)

412 I understand Ace's sentiment, but damn, I can never vote Dem. Not happening.


If I can't vote for what I can support, then I will just abstain.


Things are going to go pear shaped pretty much no matter what because the Left are pushing us there relentlessly. Voting, not voting, LIB, not LIB - doesn't matter. Their goal is complete control and nothing less. Saving ourselves will require physical resistance at some point. With Obama they have gone completely lawless and that is one genie you can't put back in the bottle.



So everyone, prepare yourselves. Do not despair. Just do what you can for your and your family to be prepared. May God have mercy on our souls.

Posted by: East Bay KG at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (uDCdI)

413 Perhaps March 21st Oneida Casino Green Bay

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:19 PM (KJLlE)


A bit of a drive for me, but doable. Isn't it great there will soon be 6 lanes of freeway headed into Green Bay?

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (cL79m)

414 >>Little Green AoSHQ

C'mon there's no indication that Ace is going down that path.


Folks, the GOP is not listening to us. Well, not most of us, anyway. (I'm sure they answer jwest's phone calls.)

You should look at your vote as something to be EARNED by the GOP, not something they can count on irrespective of what they do.

There ARE still some reasonable Democrats. My disappointment is that our betters in the GOP have made no effort to break the Democrats' voting bloc in Congress. They go through massive defeats, but Reid and Pelosi still have them almost entirely voting in lock-step. It's inconceivable to me that some couldn't be picked off.

You need to look at your specific situations and ask yourself where you can have the most influence. It may be through the GOP, but it may be by influencing Democrats from w/in their party.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (9BRsg)

415 I think hardening stuff against EMP is fine, for the stuff that's hardened, but against a major solar event? The problem is that unless you're 100% totally self sufficient, you're still going to have problems from external massive surges. Plus, great, your internet works in Cheyenne Mountain, but youre not connected to anyone else because there isn't anything else to connect to.

A major solar event wouldn't just take down your smart phone it would wipe out the power grid, the water supply, transportation, banking, records, factories, pretty much civilization as we know it. We could rebuild in a few years, but until then....

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:21 PM (39g3+)

416 Damn. Forgot to put wine in the fridge. Gotta wait.

Put it in the freezer for a bit...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:21 PM (Bn6aD)

417 I'm looking forward to being a Democrat. No more independent thinking. No more rage stroking. Just a comfortable numbness.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 03, 2015 06:21 PM (CVTpV)

418 ****I tell people how to spell bukkake and I tell them. . . .****



For some reason my brain read this to the music behind "I write the songs..."

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 03, 2015 06:21 PM (xSCb6)

419 Ace will chill. I believe. The first time I ever read Ace was December 2012 and the fiscal cliff was upon us. He wrote f*ck, let it burn. He relaxed on that.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:22 PM (KJLlE)

420 I can't drive these crochet needles into my head far enough to make the clowns disappear.

...maybe they are in the wrong plsocmkncm, fishstick.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 06:22 PM (16bOT)

421
Anyone check the concensus/mood at Hot Air's comments today?

Are they all rationalizing?

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:22 PM (omuEe)

422 369
Little Green AoSHQ

My fear...
------------

I hope Ace doesn't go all chuckey johnson on us and start banning conservative.

Posted by: Willy at March 03, 2015 06:22 PM (EJVZR)

423
its all really moot anyway i think world events over the next two years will shape the playing field more than anything we can do

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 06:22 PM (lKyWE)

424 There ARE still some reasonable Democrats.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (9BRsg)


Where? They've finished purging them into the minority half of the PIG; in fact, they're the ones running what used to be the GOP.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (cL79m)

425 I'll continue to vote for the few good Republicans like our state treasurer, who is amazing. But otherwise, Libertarian for me. The further toward the anarcho-capitalist side, the better.
Posted by: rfichoke at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (F879m)


-------------------------------------------


My heart is in my state. Conservatives in my state vote conservative very consistantly. That's where my focus shall reside. And I'll support anyone that will support the option of secession, or at least, nullification.

I can't see myself anymore voting for anyone nationally, for either party. They have become one in DC. They want to take my freedom.

Posted by: Soona at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (/HX7u)

426
Ugh. I'm listening to a phony political advert from some phony leftist Joo group.

Bastard momzers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (CMkNk)

427 >>What is the name of Boner's failure theater?


The Crying Game the Musical

Posted by: Garrett at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (r75HN)

428
365 The problem if you purposely cede power to the Democrats is that you're really giving power to the far loony tyrannical left. I mean like the real left, not these phonies in power now.


Precisely. Fools with a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature. In charge of our dealings with Putin, the Mullahs and ISIS. The Loony Left in charge of everything means devastating external war or civil war eventually.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (U50PB)

429
Higher inheritance taxes now! Our children matter too!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (kdS6q)

430 416 Damn. Forgot to put wine in the fridge. Gotta wait.

Put it in the freezer for a bit...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:21 PM (Bn6aD)

Or have a glass of red while you wait....

Posted by: Tami at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (v0/PR)

431 Oh, darling. You're mistaken. NYC was a shithouse back then and I applauded Disney coming in and cleaning up Times Square.



Anyway, I will infiltrate.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:09 PM (CMkNk)

I was being sarcastic, should have added a tag! I remember scary NYC pre guiliani; no one in their right mind wants to return to that time. Except hipsters, but I repeat myself.

Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (yRwC8)

432 The slow bleed of expectations works every time.

Sure, its a very reliable method. But if they go full retard, it stops being slow.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (39g3+)

433 Ace may be a genius here. If we all joined the Democrats they'd be the most conservative party in the country.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (1Y+hH)

434

in b4 Billy Joel!

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (omuEe)

435 Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite, I'm out of here.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)


Ace needs to eat a snickers bar...

Posted by: The Candy Hat at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (0Ew3K)

436 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.
Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight.
Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink-
Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him.
Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

Posted by: Sefer Yeshayahu at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (SOf+k)

437
I recommend a hostile take over of the GOP. If we start at the local level, precinct by precinct, it might work. Bring all your friends and we'll swamp 'em.

Posted by: Lily at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (PH+u8)

438 Witness Venezuela, or perhaps Greece. The slow bleed of expectations works every time.

Shift the culture, destroy everyone who is left outside by the shift. Works every time!

Posted by: J. Dzukashvili, just another Georgia patriot at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (Q819Q)

439 Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (cL79m)

Stay tuned about the momee

I'm from the western part of the state it's a haul for me but would be fun

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (KJLlE)

440 There ARE still some reasonable Democrats.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (9BRsg)



Your definition of "reasonable" must be different from mine.

Because, over the last 6 years the synonym for "unreasonable" has been "Democrat."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (V+kmg)

441 431 Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (yRwC


Sarc tag is your friend!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (CMkNk)

442
Precisely. Fools with a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature. In charge of our dealings with Putin, the Mullahs and ISIS. The Loony Left in charge of everything means devastating external war or civil war eventually.[\i]

I see that as a feature, not a bug. Because experience is a harsh teacher, but fools will have no other.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 03, 2015 06:25 PM (CVTpV)

443 Off to waste my time working. Maybe someday I'll wise up and start living off of someone else. But not today.

Posted by: Soona at March 03, 2015 06:25 PM (/HX7u)

444 I may stand alone but I will stand. It's not in me to quit. It may be futile, hopeless, foolish but I am persistent. Stubborn. Bull headed. Stiff necked. Unyielding. I just can't do it. Cant.

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:25 PM (zOTsN)

445 So this blog is going to be PRO Pres. Warren right? Because it looks like Hillary may actually self-implode (or melt like the witch she is) at this stage

Posted by: trump at March 03, 2015 06:25 PM (mctSY)

446

You all joining the D party would be like the scene from Caddyshack when the caddies were allowed to use the pool from 1:00 to 1:15.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:25 PM (omuEe)

447 Ace a little advice, Move to a red state where people actually get things done. I am a Jersey guy as well but I lived in FL for 35 years. At that time it was corruption free and the politicians got things done. Quite a contrast to Jersey. Anyway I can relate to your paint it blackness. Head south my man

Posted by: Regular Guy at March 03, 2015 06:25 PM (XYKz+)

448 A major solar event wouldn't just take down your smart phone it would wipe out the power grid, the water supply, transportation, banking, records, factories, pretty much civilization as we know it. We could rebuild in a few years, but until then....
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:21 PM (39g3+)

Pfffft. Either you live in an underground bunker or have a way higher opinion of your fellow man than I do. And on who would be in charge of "rebuilding"

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 06:25 PM (AkOaV)

449 For 8 years I've been working on (i.e. procrastinating and not working on) a mega-essay spelling out a new "pole" in politics that transcends left/right -- a pole that most everyone here would agree with.

Its basic principles are:

- Pro-freedom wherever possible
- Totally agnostic (that is, "don't give a shit one way or the other") about most social issues.
- Small-government, constitutionalist, federalist wherever possible.
- NOT anarchist nor hyper-libertarian -- "small" government does not imply "no" government. Government only where is does good and really is needed (infrastructure, military, rational public policy that refrains from social experimentation, etc.).
- Low taxes for two reasons: To free up cash, investment and self-suffiency for the individual; and to "starve the beast" - to deny funds to the entrenched bureaucracy. The "Laffer Curve" motivation (i.e. lower taxes to stimulate the economy to INCREASE revenue to the govt.) is NOT the reason for lowering taxes. However, if a stimulated economy occurs as a side-effect, the revenue will be used to PAY DOWN THE DEBT, and not fund existing or planned social policies.
- Etc. You get the idea.

I'm stuck on:

-- The name for the political philosophy;
-- Whether to frame it as a personal cri-de-coeur rant, or as a philsophy essay, or as the founding of a new political party, or as a 18th-century-style "broadsheet" white paper a la Locke /Madison / Hobbes.

Oooh look, Gilligan's Island reruns! Well, I'll just watch a few before getting started....ZZZzzzzzz....

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (K4YiS)

450 Ace needs to eat a snickers bar...
Posted by: The Candy Hat at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (0Ew3K)


Why am I now seeing Ace in my mind as looking like Johnny Manziel??

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (V+kmg)

451 I'm looking forward to being a Democrat. No more independent thinking. No more rage stroking. Just a comfortable numbness.
---

It's no accident that the reefer madness crowd are making inroads right now.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (9BRsg)

452 The more I read.., the more my eye is twitching.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (vPh3W)

453 "No fucking way will I ever vote democrat."

So Jeb is no-go?

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (1Y+hH)


I'll stay home. There is no way...no fucking way I will ever vote for a dem. I'm not even "that' conservative, but I recognize evil incarnate, and I will never vote for gun grabbing, muslim stroking, communist anti American scumbags. I would rather slug it out in the streets with the cock suckers, push them into the sea, and make the rinos my fucking house boys cleaning up the mess after I ass fuck their women.

I.am.not.voting.dem

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (FMbng)

454
On the contrary, some here need to snap into a Slim Jim!

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (omuEe)

455 Your definition of "reasonable" must be different from mine.

Because, over the last 6 years the synonym for "unreasonable" has been "Democrat."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (V+kmg)


Here's the entry in my dictionary for "unreasonable":

un-reas-on-a-ble (adj.) - Democrat

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:27 PM (cL79m)

456
There ARE still some reasonable Democrats.
Posted by: Y-not

Where?
Posted by: steveegg



Gray Davis. Really surprised me how much he did in his first term as California Gov to ward of the excess of the Democratic legislature. Went left in the recall, but before that he was pretty good for a Dem.

Better than Arnold, that's for sure.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:27 PM (kdS6q)

457 On the contrary, some here need to snap into a Slim Jim!

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (omuEe)


Ooooooh yeahhhh!

Posted by: The Macho Man at March 03, 2015 06:27 PM (cL79m)

458 The only real difference between the Democrats and Republicans is one party pretends to like me.

Posted by: Eliott Spitter at March 03, 2015 06:27 PM (5fSr7)

459 Christians know that its not politicians and voters who are in charge, but God almighty. But sometimes... well what He has in mind doesn't exactly fit what we'd prefer. And one of the worst punishments God gives mankind who steers too far into evil is to give them what they want.

Let's pretend. Pretend there is an almighty, Holy God as described in the Bible. How would such a divine personage view a country who murders children at the rate of thousands a day, celebrates perversity and blasphemy, mocks God regularly, and pretends that they are god instead?

The same God that is described as having flattened cities and swallowed people up into the ground, even sent fire from the altar to incinerate priests who blasphemed him?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (39g3+)

460 zombie if you need help I'm offering

Posted by: Feh at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (pjBrO)

461 It's no accident that the reefer madness crowd are making inroads right now.
Posted by: Y-not

Just take your Medical Soma.

Posted by: Mustafa Mons at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (GuwT9)

462 >>>I hope Ace doesn't go all chuckey johnson on us and start banning conservative.

Posted by: Willy at March 03, 2015 06:22 PM (EJVZR)<<<


Crikey! An Ewok with a ponytail, or does he let it all grow out like Cousin It?

Posted by: zombie Steve Irwin at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (OVx7B)

463 WI MOMEE?

Howzabout Wi Dells? It's centrally located to the whole state, there is adult fun and libation to be had. Not too far from anyone.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (XmOA9)

464 There ARE still some reasonable Democrats.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (9BRsg)

----

Your definition of "reasonable" must be different from mine.

Because, over the last 6 years the synonym for "unreasonable" has been "Democrat."

-----

Reasonable is someone with whom you can reason.

I'm looking for self-interest, not principle.

It's like the end of Kelly's Heroes when Crapgame suggests they go make a deal with the German tank commander. "Maybe the guy's a Republican."

The GOP should be trying to break their voting bloc. Bribe them, threaten them, reason with them. I don't care what it takes, but remove the power from Reid and Pelosi.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (9BRsg)

465 Gray Davis. Really surprised me how much he did in his first term as California Gov to ward of the excess of the Democratic legislature. Went left in the recall, but before that he was pretty good for a Dem.

Better than Arnold, that's for sure.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:27 PM (kdS6q)


And where has Gray-Out Davis been the last 13 years? Oh, that's right - out of politics.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (cL79m)

466 445 So this blog is going to be PRO Pres. Warren right? Because it looks like Hillary may actually self-implode (or melt like the witch she is) at this stage
Posted by: trump at March

I was so hoping a house would land on her

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (KJLlE)

467 I may stand alone but I will stand. It's not in me to quit. It may be futile, hopeless, foolish but I am persistent. Stubborn. Bull headed. Stiff necked. Unyielding. I just can't do it. Cant.
Posted by: Thunder
-------------------

* praises Lord, passes the ammunition *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (vPh3W)

468 Why am I now seeing Ace in my mind as looking like Johnny Manziel??

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (V+kmg)

I was thinking Jan Brady.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (Zu3d9)

469 Like any good general knows sometimes you lose ground in a fight. I say regroup to a warm state and create our own conservative eutopia without any federal funding!!!!!

Posted by: Regular Guy at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (XYKz+)

470 Here's the thing about Let It Burn: the only people who EVER feel the consequences are the middle class.

Both parties want it extinct.

So really, no matter what you do, it never burns, and you, as the taxpayer, get screwed.

I have no idea what the remedy for the situation is...

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (32zvW)

471
So this blog is going to be PRO Pres. Warren right?
Posted by: trump



If it's Warren vs Bush III, I will have no hesitation doing so.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (kdS6q)

472 I.am.not.voting.dem
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (FMbng)

I'm good with that. I'm voting R in my local/state races (getting rid of Udall was SO nice) and not voting in the presidential race unless a conservative gets the nomination.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (1Y+hH)

473 And, Maetenloch, you're not going anywhere. We'll all just harass you on Twitter until you relent.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 03, 2015 06:30 PM (6J/xZ)

474 OT/ But I see Iran has declined obamas plan....

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:30 PM (Bn6aD)

475 Perhaps March 21st Oneida Casino Green Bay
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian



Oooh. I hate y'all. LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 06:30 PM (HZJjy)

476 460 zombie if you need help I'm offering
Posted by: Feh at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (pjBrO)

Sure, I'm in. Just tell me what channel Gilligans Island is on first.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 06:30 PM (AkOaV)

477 460 zombie if you need help I'm offering
Posted by: Feh


Thanks -- but the striking of the match must be a solitary pursuit.

The "needs help" part comes once I've got it all down on the page. At that point -- yes, help spread it around!

I'll notify everyone when I'm finish....ZZZZzzzzzzzz...

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:30 PM (K4YiS)

478 468 I was thinking Jan Brady.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (Zu3d9)


Would hit that! Post Brady Bunch for sure.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:30 PM (CMkNk)

479 I was thinking Jan Brady.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (Zu3d9)


Marcia! Marcia!! Marcia!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 06:30 PM (V+kmg)

480 >>What is the name of Boner's failure theater?


-------

Like Clockwork, Orange

Posted by: fixerupper at March 03, 2015 06:30 PM (JmjOe)

481 Just cause I am a giver, I have order 20 cases of Valium for the Horde. One case alone for the Head Ewok.



This to will pass. Joining the enemy serves no purpose, but hey, when has that stopped the Horde?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 06:30 PM (0FSuD)

482 So really, no matter what you do, it never burns, and you, as the taxpayer, get screwed.

I have no idea what the remedy for the situation is...
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (32zvW)

Very true.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (AkOaV)

483 the remedy is radical

Posted by: Feh at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (pjBrO)

484 463 WI MOMEE?

Howzabout Wi Dells? It's centrally located to the whole state, there is adult fun and libation to be had. Not too far from anyone.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (XmOA9)

Stevens Point is center. But Dells isn't a bad choice. Get on the ONT and bring it up.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (KJLlE)

485 So, do I have to remind all of you of this thread in a couple of years for election time or will this too pass?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (AC0lD)

486 Come to Texas. Oklahoma. Come home

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (zOTsN)

487 425...Posted by: Soona at March 03, 2015 06:23 PM (/HX7u)

Out of our 5 R-reps, one voted with Boehner...Tom Cole.

Cole is a former blue dog Dem, so that's not a big surprise.
But he's going to get some hate mail.

Maybe I'm a Pollyanna...but the way I see it, we had 176 vote against Boehner, against their leadership.
This is encouraging to me.

This is a big change and it's happened since 2010.
That's four years.
It took the far left commies decades to take over the Dem party...and conservatives are making gains much quicker than that.

We need a change in Leadership.
I've changed over to Independent, and told the Reps that I won't change back till we get a change in leadership that reflects my conservative principles.


Posted by: wheatie at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (XIzXB)

488 Establishment Republicans love the middle class because they're consumers; they buy the stuff the big corps produce and sell. Democrats hate the middle class. They're the ones who dont need or want revolution, but aren't evil oppressive rich folks. They break the pattern, they ruin the theories. Either you change the theory or eliminate the ones that violate it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (39g3+)

489 zombie!

You rock!

Posted by: Willy at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (EJVZR)

490 Like any good general knows sometimes you lose ground in a fight. I say regroup to a warm state and create our own conservative eutopia without any federal funding!!!!!

Posted by: Regular Guy at March 03, 2015 06:29 PM (XYKz+)


Trust me - make sure a significant portion of the ObamiNation is downwind.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (cL79m)

491

Netanyahu: "Now, if Iran threatens to walk away from the table -- and this often happens in a Persian bazaar -- call their bluff. They'll be back, because they need the deal a lot more than you do."

(APPLAUSE)

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (omuEe)

492 Kind of sneaky they pulled this amnesty stunt same day as Bibi's speech.

Cover.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (MMC8r)

493 I suppose that the only time there will be any push back is when there IS no more middle class.

How long will that take?

I don't know.

But I suspect it will happen.

Then the bar will be re-set, and the "working poor" will be called "middle class."

And the cycle will begin again.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (32zvW)

494 I'm stuck on:

-- The name for the political philosophy;
Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (K4YiS)


Menshevism?

Posted by: J. Dzukashvili, just another Georgia patriot at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (Q819Q)

495 486 Come to Texas. Oklahoma. Come home
Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (zOTsN)


That used to be the tagline for Israel tourism.

Come to Israel, come stay with friends.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (CMkNk)

496 Stevens Point is center. But Dells isn't a bad choice. Get on the ONT and bring it up.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (KJLlE)


How's the Wisconsin basketball team this year? Repeat performance this year?

Nebraska shit the bed.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (oFCZn)

497 492 Kind of sneaky they pulled this amnesty stunt same day as Bibi's speech.

Cover.

Well it certainly backfired...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (Bn6aD)

498 Next up, the Iranians hire Assad's kid to troll Obama 24/7.

Posted by: Garrett at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (r75HN)

499 494 Menshevism?
Posted by: J. Dzukashvili, just another Georgia patriot at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (Q819Q)


Not enough menschs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (CMkNk)

500 understood

I've given thought to the same project, as have others

Posted by: Feh at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (pjBrO)

501 Howzabout Wi Dells? It's centrally located to the whole state, there is adult fun and libation to be had. Not too far from anyone.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (XmOA9)

Stevens Point is center. But Dells isn't a bad choice. Get on the ONT and bring it up.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:31 PM (KJLlE)


The bad news is there isn't much in the Dells in March. The ugly news is there isn't much in Stevens Point any time of year.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (cL79m)

502 So, do I have to remind all of you of this thread in a couple of years for election time or will this too pass?

The GOP will keep reminding us.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (MMC8r)

503 Maybe I'm a Pollyanna...but the way I see it, we had 176 vote against Boehner, against their leadership.
This is encouraging to me.
---

They had a chance to oust him and they didn't take it. Many of those votes 'against' Boehner were just for show.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (9BRsg)

504 480 >>What is the name of Boner's failure theater?


-------

Like Clockwork, Orange

Posted by: fixerupper


Out of nowhere, on the stretch, a new contender rockets past the pack and we have an unexpected...THREADWINNER!

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (K4YiS)

505 What bugs me about the so-called "conservatives" is how they force this very result to happen and then blame Boehner for it happening.

Boehner tried, Senate Democrats blocked it. Allowing funding to expire for DHS is NOT an option and would be political suicide that would likely get Republicans thrown out of both House and Senate in 2016.

Rather than hanging this albatross around the necks of Senate Democrats, where it belongs, the far right wing of the Democratic Party blames the HOUSE Speaker for it.

Boehner wanted three weeks to see how the court case would shake out. Instead, the so-called "conservatives" voted with their allies, the Democrats, to block it. Boehner was able to get a 1 week extension but that isn't long enough. Anyone with a half a brain would have seen this is how it would play out. This is a CORE issue for Democrats, they are not going to vote with the GOP. If the funding for DHS were allowed to expire, the Democrats would laugh all the way to 2016 and just leave it sitting there until the Republicans finally turned the money back on anyway.

I swear the stupidest people on the face of this planet are the people at the extreme left and right wings of both parties. Fault for this lies with the Senate Dems. No amount of "fighting" is going to cause Democrats to change their votes and McConnell can't just waive a magic wand to eliminate the filibuster.

When Reid went nuclear on appointments there were 3 Democrats who disagreed and voted with the Republicans. If there are only 4 Republicans that disagree with completely nuking the filibuster, it can't be done no matter what McConnell might want. It takes 51 votes at best. If 4 Republicans of the 54 oppose it, it can't be done.

The blame for this lies in the idiots who refused to support Romney in 2012. Asshats like Mark Levin with his character assassination helped re-elect Obama. The so-called "conservatives" made this bed. Enjoy it. But blaming Boehner for the fact that Democrats just are not going to flip on this issue is supremely idiotic.

Mind the door on the way out.

Posted by: crosspatch at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (PCyWo)

506 But forget third party. The TP had momentum and like magic, they got handed Loughner, which had nothing to do with the TP or politics. Suddenly the TP became toxic to most of the country. The spitting during ocare story (another lie) helped kill it, too. The point is they will never let a third party get real momentum because they have the mic along with a fundamentally ignorant country.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 06:34 PM (QCo5R)

507
Stronger anti-pollution laws on corporate eco-criminals! We only have one Earth!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:34 PM (kdS6q)

508 489 zombie!

You rock!

Posted by: Willy


You tree!

(Caveman tag.)

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:34 PM (K4YiS)

509
Quick bite: those dismissing the importance of today's amazing House vote for the actual policy issue are not making much sense.

Mainstream judicial practice (political doctrine) has been (not unreasonably) to decline intervention betw. president and Congress on a matter where either side has not used available powers to resolve the dispute. If there were an encyclopedia illustration of "Congress implicitly agreeing to executive discretionary action", it would be this vote. Thus, this acquiescence by Congress is NOT neccessarily a separate front on amnesty, it may materially affect the judicial front.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2015 06:34 PM (afQnV)

510 The same God that is described as having flattened cities and swallowed people up into the ground, even sent fire from the altar to incinerate priests who blasphemed him?
Posted by: Christopher
----------------
Turn around go back down, back the way you came
Can't you see that flash of fire ten times brighter than the day
And behold the mighty city broken in the dust again
Oh God! The pride of man broken in the dust again

Turn around go back down, back the way you came
Babylon is laid to waste Egypt's buried in her shame
Their mighty men are beaten down, the kings are fallen in the ways
Oh God! The pride of man broken in the dust again

Posted by: Hamilton Camp at March 03, 2015 06:34 PM (vPh3W)

511
Posted by: crosspatch

Hi Dunce, long time no see!

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:34 PM (omuEe)

512 How's the Wisconsin basketball team this year? Repeat performance this year?

Nebraska shit the bed.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 03, 2015 06:32 PM (oFCZn)


3 losses (a shit-the-bed-at-home loss to Duke, an injury-plagued loss at Rutgers, and a "we don't need no titles" loss at Maryland). They'll muddle through the NCAA tourney until they get crushed by Kentucky in the Midwest Regional final.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:34 PM (cL79m)

513 Posted by: crosspatch at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (PCyWo)

Shameless. Utterly shameless.



Gotta protect that big government at all costs, eh?

Posted by: East Bay KG at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (uDCdI)

514 507
Stronger anti-pollution laws on corporate eco-criminals! We only have one Earth!

Move everyone into the Cities... Open space!

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (Bn6aD)

515 >>Would hit that! Post Brady Bunch for sure.


Either way, I would run to the Burger King!

Posted by: Scott Ritter at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (r75HN)

516 Of course, there is also the positive side of Obama's reaction to Iran.

They will get the bomb, then to usher in the Mahdi, they will nuke the U.S., which will get our minds off of politics as usual.

/smod, oh smod, why have you forsaken us?

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (32zvW)

517 Sarc tag is your friend!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (CMkNk)

Indeed!

My one slim hope in the DiBlasio commiefication of NYC is that there are still enough New Yorkers that remember the Guiliani years, and they will intercede to do something before the city slides into utter crapola again. But I don't think they will register that voting dem or repub lite is contributing to the backslide, sigh.

Question for you JJ: were you around during the Mayor Koch years? Was he a decent dem mayor or as insane as the rest? I was watching Muppets Take Manhattan, he has a cameo in it. got me curious.

Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (yRwC8)

518
True or False?

"crosspatch" could be a typical hot air commenter

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (omuEe)

519 So really, no matter what you do, it never burns, and you, as the taxpayer, get screwed. I have no idea what the remedy for the situation is...
Posted by: shibumi



It WILL burn. Mr. Maths demands it. $17 trillion in debt. $150 trillion in unfunded liabilities.


Best you can do is whatever it takes to protect you and yours and stay out of the way.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (HZJjy)

520 WWMCD - What Would Michael Collins Do?

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (amQXf)

521 Move everyone into the Cities... Open space!

Just in time for the Burning Times.

Huh.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (0NdlF)

522
i said cockwork orange about 200 post upthread

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (lKyWE)

523 With that said, they're doing much better than the Marquette Anti-Catholic Care Bears (dead last in the Big East).

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM (cL79m)

524 Posted by: crosspatch

Whoever asked what was going on at TeppidAir, I think you just got it delivered.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at March 03, 2015 06:36 PM (GuwT9)

525
Mind the door on the way out.

Posted by: crosspatch at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (PCyWo)

Enjoy being pissed on.

(HINT: It's not raining.)

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 03, 2015 06:36 PM (MMC8r)

526 I recommend a hostile take over of the GOP. If we start at the local level, precinct by precinct, it might work. Bring all your friends and we'll swamp 'em.

Posted by: Lily at March 03, 2015 06:24 PM (PH+u


One of the problems with local takeovers is that they are typically run by amateurs who have no idea what they are doing.

You need to understand how things work in order to navigate politics. Don't do that and you will get shut out.

If you don't know your enemy, you will loose.

Posted by: Sun-Tzu's Hat at March 03, 2015 06:36 PM (0Ew3K)

527 I can't vote Democrat but I just wont vote.Needless to say,I wont be donating either.

Posted by: steevy at March 03, 2015 06:36 PM (KETbL)

528
@18
Nuke it.
Let the dust settle.
Sweep the glass.

Posted by: wth at March 03, 2015 06:36 PM (wAQA5)

529 503 Maybe I'm a Pollyanna...but the way I see it, we had 176 vote against Boehner, against their leadership.
This is encouraging to me.
------------

Take a lesson from what the Dems do out in the open. They get the votes they need and not one more. There's probably 70 votes they could have had if they needed them. Sorry to break the bad news.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 06:36 PM (QCo5R)

530
Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:34 PM (cL79m

Sounds about right

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:36 PM (KJLlE)

531 494 I'm stuck on:

-- The name for the political philosophy;
Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:26 PM (K4YiS)

Menshevism?
Posted by: J. Dzukashvili, just another Georgia patriot


Ha ha -- but seriously, I've pondered this considerably, and every imaginable word relating to politics has already been co-opted, or already has an established meaning. Which means that we must come up with a new term, if we are to exit the left/right dichotomy do-loop. But a fresh new term will be meaningless and offputting to most LIVs.

Problems, problems....

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:37 PM (K4YiS)

532
Boehner tried...

Posted by: crosspatch



The two most pathetic words I've read all day.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:37 PM (omuEe)

533 Posted by: crosspatch at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (PCyWo)

Huh?

I think your cut and paste is broken.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2015 06:37 PM (Zu3d9)

534 I'm all raged out.... Outta here...

As Bibi said today God bless America...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:37 PM (Bn6aD)

535 The GOP has long been locked into a stupid cycle of worrying about the next election before they do anything that might be a hard call. There's always another election in 2 years. Always. It never goes away There will never be a time when they can make the hard choices safely and not worry about the next election.

Democrats finally figured this out.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:37 PM (39g3+)

536 This too will pass because the alternative is difficult to think about. It's much easier to believe that they won't do that thing in your mouth this time because they promised, they said they'd change, and you want to believe them. If anything you'll just vote against the Democrat candidate, because to do otherwise would put this vague tingle in the base of your reptile brain that you're some kinda pinko commie or not a real murican. And so the cycle continues, because comfort and stability now is easier than planning long-term. The democracy zombie shambles on.

Posted by: kartoffel at March 03, 2015 06:37 PM (szYND)

537 I can't vote Democrat but I just wont vote.Needless to say,I wont be donating either.
--------------

Yup. Same thing Washington said at Valley Forge.

Posted by: Hamilton Camp at March 03, 2015 06:38 PM (l1zOH)

538
Anyone remember the rival bar on Cheers? That's what hot air is to us.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:38 PM (omuEe)

539 But blaming Boehner for the fact that Democrats just are not going to flip on this issue is supremely idiotic.

Mind the door on the way out.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (PCyWo)

Welcome to the party, Mr Voice of the Establishment, it's good of you to join us.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 06:38 PM (AkOaV)

540 508 489 zombie!

You rock!

Posted by: Willy

You tree!

(Caveman tag.)
--------------
LOL. Good to see you posting on AoS. (former LGF'er here).

Posted by: Willy at March 03, 2015 06:39 PM (EJVZR)

541 Next up, the Iranians hire Assad's kid to troll Obama 24/7.


Does he have a GoFundMe page?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 06:39 PM (HZJjy)

542 Anyone remember the rival bar on Cheers? That's what hot air is to us.
--------------

Gary's Olde Town Tavern

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2015 06:39 PM (QCo5R)

543
As a companion piece to the Geico ad in the sidebar:

http://goo.gl/U2VGuB

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 03, 2015 06:39 PM (iQIUe)

544 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Choice
Clinic want to thank our two Senators for boycotting that racist Netayahoo Speech and standing up for the rights of the good people of Iraq. Bush lied to these people and we should give them money for what Bush did to them. We have sent a letter to our two grate Senators to introduce a bill to raise taxes to help these people for what Bush did to the. That way we can show them we hate Bush too and will leave us alone and just bother Isreal.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 03, 2015 06:39 PM (Sd++4)

545 503 Maybe I'm a Pollyanna...but the way I see it, we had 176 vote against Boehner, against their leadership.
This is encouraging to me.

---

They had a chance to oust him and they didn't take it. Many of those votes 'against' Boehner were just for show.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (9BRsg)

---------

Well, the whole damn thing was for show, wasn't it?

There's no way Barky was going to let DHS get shut down, he could fund it with a stroke of his pen...and then blame the R's for 'shutting down the government' for a few days.

Posted by: wheatie at March 03, 2015 06:40 PM (XIzXB)

546 A whole lotta new nicks here telling us how it is, isn't there?

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:40 PM (9BRsg)

547 532
Boehner tried...

Posted by: crosspatch


The two most pathetic words I've read all day.
Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:37 PM (omuEe)

More like Boehner cried........

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:40 PM (KJLlE)

548 >>remember the rival bar on Cheers? That's what hot air is to us


Central Perk?

Posted by: Garrett at March 03, 2015 06:40 PM (r75HN)

549 Getting crushed by Kansas assumes being a 2 seed or lower, and that's not written in stone (yet).

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 03, 2015 06:40 PM (XmOA9)

550 I just feel like Netanyahu was used as a pawn to pass this, and it really pisses me off.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 06:40 PM (MYCIw)

551 Posted by: crosspatch at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (PCyWo)

-----

Oh...look....one of them we HAVE to support Castles reelection campaign types

How's that fcukin working out for you.

Get a rope.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 03, 2015 06:40 PM (JmjOe)

552
crosspatch (PCyWo)



The preceding post was courtesy of a Georgetown Student Internship in Steve Scalise's office.

Go Bulldogs!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:40 PM (kdS6q)

553 I'd like you to meet my new bitch, Crosspatch.

Posted by: Orange Boner at March 03, 2015 06:40 PM (MMC8r)

554
Mel's Diner?

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:41 PM (omuEe)

555 522
i said cockwork orange about 200 post upthread
Posted by: kj


It's all about the timing.

I only have read about 15% of the comments, so I hand out awards at random, where I notice things.

Fair? Who ever said life was fair?

So take your telephone patent, Mr. Elisha Gray, and get out of my office!

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:41 PM (K4YiS)

556 Move everyone into the Cities... Open space!

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 03, 2015 06:35 PM


Uh it's been done before...

Posted by: every black democrat since LBJ at March 03, 2015 06:41 PM (XYKz+)

557 Nice try crosspatch, but that's a revisionist screed.

The GOP committed to refusing to fund amnesty long before there was a court ruling. The e took the court ruling as political cover for something they were going to cave on anyway.

Oh, and even your premise is incorrect. Leadership isn't "hey, let's see what happens in court." Leadership is doing the right thing. The GOPe abdicated because they didn't want to fight it, not because evil conservatives forced the, to surrender.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 03, 2015 06:41 PM (CVTpV)

558 Posted by: crosspatch at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (PCyWo)

And you'll be back here in 2 years blaming us for not supporting the Grand Unity Clinton/Bush (yes, in that order) ticket.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:41 PM (cL79m)

559 >>remember the rival bar on Cheers? That's what hot air is to us


Reggie's?

Posted by: Elaine Benes at March 03, 2015 06:41 PM (r75HN)

560 just so we're clear; this place hasn't gone LGF, right?

Posted by: Hobbiehawk at March 03, 2015 06:42 PM (IPGju)

561 Democrat President
Republican speaker of the house
Republican majority leader of the senate

Illegal executive order

Fucking republicans you have one job

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:42 PM (KJLlE)

562 I'd like you to meet my new bitch, Crosspatch.



WHO BITCH THIS IS?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 06:42 PM (HZJjy)

563 Conservatives bring to mind Robert Aske and the republican establishment Henry VIII.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2015 06:42 PM (h+0fC)

564 I have a crosspatch. It's pretty funky, tho.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at March 03, 2015 06:42 PM (Dwehj)

565 Who let crotchpass in here? *hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at March 03, 2015 06:42 PM (16bOT)

566 The Peach Pit.

Posted by: Garrett at March 03, 2015 06:42 PM (r75HN)

567 Netanyahu wasn't used. He was convenient. They picked the time for the speech to coincide with AIPAC, so that right after 16000 committed american jews to lobby congress

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:42 PM (zOTsN)

568 Posted by: crosspatch at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (PCyWo)



Your shit tank is overfull.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 03, 2015 06:43 PM (xSCb6)

569 - Pro-freedom wherever possible
- Totally agnostic (that is, "don't give a shit one way or the other") about most social issues.


Freedom can't survive without a foundation of Natural (God-given) rights.

Social issue agnosticism doesn't work. The future will not belong to the tolerant moderates letting live, but the extremists. I'd rather it be the extremists who love humanity.

It's extreme to think that no man should be a slave. And slavery is just a "social issue".

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 06:43 PM (0NdlF)

570 Good lord, someone posted a pic on Twitter I hope is fake of what looks like Northern Africans holding a cross with a CAT crucified on it.

There just doesn't seem to be any horror people will avoid perpetrating these days. Its like living in WW2, but the Nazis are... everywhere.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:43 PM (39g3+)

571
the Regal Beagle?

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:43 PM (omuEe)

572 Your shit tank is overfull.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 03, 2015 06:43 PM (xSCb6)


It's a "hoople" (10 pounds of shit in a 5-pound bag).

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:43 PM (cL79m)

573
Quemarla.
Esparcir las piedras.
Sal de la tierra donde se encontraba.

Posted by: Manuel Labor at March 03, 2015 06:44 PM (wAQA5)

574 The GOP should be trying to break their voting bloc.
Bribe them, threaten them, reason with them. I don't care what it
takes, but remove the power from Reid and Pelosi.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:28 PM (9BRsg)

I remember reading somewhere that after the dems lost the house, Pelosi was still squatting in the speaker's office and refusing to vacate. Did they ever throw a can of Raid in there and actually get her to leave? I'm thinking, if Boehner keeps acting this way, they should just give it back to her and be done with it, she is defacto head anyway. Just make it official.

Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:44 PM (yRwC8)

575 Your shit tank is overfull.
Posted by: Burn the Witch

I can take care of that.

Posted by: Cousin Eddie at March 03, 2015 06:44 PM (GuwT9)

576 Melbournes

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 06:44 PM (16bOT)

577 Fair? Who ever said life was fair?

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:41 PM (K4YiS)



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Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 06:44 PM (0NdlF)

578 seriously we need to consolidate and condense our voting powers. we can move into districts in time to register for local elections. I say we move to FL and vote out Alan Grayson....Then move over a few counties and vote in Allen West!!!!

Posted by: Regular guy formerly LBJ at March 03, 2015 06:44 PM (XYKz+)

579
(wow, crosspatch, go off and learn something - anything, really - about American politics, congressional mechanics, congressional political dynamics, etc., then come back and make less comically unhinged pronouncements)

Quick bite 2: forget the underlying issue (amnesty, and the morphing of "discretion" into unfettered capricious rule by the executive). The power-balance significance here is substantial.

The GOP won the 2d or 3rd largest mid-term landslide in US history a few months ago, now controls both Houses, with largest majority in that body since the 1920s (nearly a century). That GOP then basically surrendered, without a fight or anything to show, most of its leverage for the coming year by passing another CR. It conspicuously left out one item - and expressly committed itself to fighting on that one issue.

Look what just happened. The WH won without even breaking a sweat, without lifting a finger. Pushing a widely unpopular policy, on which the GOP had drawn a line in the sand. Think Syria, Obama, Russia.

The GOP Congress, run seriously, would not only be able to have a major impact on policy with its majorities, but in the process torture weaken and isolate key Dem incumbents, probably peeling off several along the way for key votes. Time will tell, but it would stagger the imagination that a GOP that just casually abandoned its lone, pathetic line in the sand will now gather itself and actually use its congressional power to any effective end, either in terms of policy or 2016.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2015 06:45 PM (afQnV)

580 This message brought to you by Big Olive Oil.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 06:44 PM (0NdlF)


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Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:45 PM (cL79m)

581 This message brought to you by Big Olive Oil.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster


No no, that's too awkward -- got to keep the syllables down. It's simply "Big Olive."

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:45 PM (K4YiS)

582 The King Kamehameha Club

Posted by: Garrett at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (r75HN)

583 heh... talk about Failure Theater....

Iran just told Obola to go fuck himself.

http://news.yahoo.com/ iran-rejects-obamas-demand-10-nuclear-halt-fars- 105319674.html

i H8 tiny url

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (I8nxO)

584 They won't do anything to dork up their sweet lobbying gigs

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (zOTsN)

585 Can we have a happy thread, kittehs, puppehs, obituaries?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (KJLlE)

586 "If you don't know your enemy, you will loose."

Yes, so we need advisors. We have people on our side who know these things. They can write how to phamphlets and such. And we can recruit in-the-know people to our cause.

I really think it can be done. It'll be hard. It will take lots of time. But we should do it. Or try it.

Posted by: Lily at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (PH+u8)

587 It's a "hoople" (10 pounds of shit in a 5-pound bag).



The stuff you learn on this here smart militray blog.

hoople = Mooch's underwear.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (HZJjy)

588 Fucking republicans you have one job
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:42 PM (KJLlE)

Getting me elected!

Posted by: Hillary! at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (DNTer)

589 No no, that's too awkward -- got to keep the syllables down. It's simply "Big Olive."

Sorry, that's what happens when the engineers play with the slogan levers.

*slinks off*

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (0NdlF)

590 If Ace was coaching the Patriots in the Super Bowl he would have benched Brady in the fourth quarter and replaced him with the Fattest Man in the World just to spite all you fuckers.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (+lsX1)

591 Clean-up, aisle 586.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (cL79m)

592
now i know how the guy who invented the slinky felt

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (lKyWE)

593 Well Iran really has no incentive whatsoever to do anything President Obama asks. Why would they? He's got no leverage, no big stick, he can't even threaten them with military action after his rhetoric and behavior. They can just laugh at him and show him their hairy behinds then walk away.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (39g3+)

594
And what of eric holder's contempt of Congress?

You can't let him get away with that because he's black. But they will.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (omuEe)

595 Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2015 06:45 PM (afQnV)

Why, it's almost as if they ... don't really TRY to do the things they say they're going to do when they have their hands out asking for donations and votes.

It's almost like they lie every 2 years in order to get elected, and never have any intention on following through.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (AkOaV)

596
I think Pixy at a post of mine?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (CMkNk)

597 This is what you get for not voting for crazy people. Only crazy people have what it takes.

Posted by: DocMerlin at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (v/AZT)

598 586 You are all leaving the GOP? Good! Go back to your traditional homeland the Democratic Party which is the party of the KKK and the party of segregation and secession. You are descendants of the mob that Andrew Jackson took to Washington D.C. You and Charles Johnson of Little Green Balls are spiritual buddies - C.J. was pissed because he wasn't a kingmaker on the Right, Ace left because the Right is not reactionary enough (even though they want to hand 17 year old girls who have abortions).

Posted by: Mercato at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (ZLU+3)


I've dismembered tougher people than you.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 03, 2015 06:48 PM (oFCZn)

599 Fair? Who ever said life was fair?

----

Reminds me of what my Dad used to say when us kids would whine about *fair*.

Fair is a pig show in August...... And you ain't got any hogs.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 03, 2015 06:48 PM (JmjOe)

600 This is what you get for not voting for crazy people. Only crazy people have what it takes.
Posted by: DocMerlin at March 03, 2015 06:47 PM (v/AZT)


That's starting to make a lot of sense

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 06:48 PM (nzKvP)

601 There just doesn't seem to be any horror people will avoid perpetrating these days. Its like living in WW2, but the Nazis are... everywhere.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:43 PM (39g3+)


I don't even think the Nazis were this fucked up.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2015 06:49 PM (FMbng)

602 Also, what happened to Ace's decimate 'em plan? Cull 10 out of the heard and defeat 'em.

Posted by: Lily at March 03, 2015 06:49 PM (PH+u8)

603 Don't take it to heart people. Ace was just making a silly argument to remind everyone that there are alternatives to voting for people who take your support for granted.

Posted by: Akdov Telmig at March 03, 2015 06:49 PM (jc4t8)

604 This is what you get for not voting for crazy people. Only crazy people have what it takes.
Posted by: DocMerlin

Tanned, rested, and ready with the silver dimes.

Posted by: Luap Nor at March 03, 2015 06:49 PM (GuwT9)

605 lol, Ace a reactionary?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 06:49 PM (0NdlF)

606 Posted by: Mercato at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (ZLU+3)

You mad, bro? Just look at the flowers, buddy.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 06:49 PM (16bOT)

607
John Boner and McTurtle walk into a bar tonight. 5 minutes later both are carried out on stretchers.

Posted by: wth at March 03, 2015 06:50 PM (wAQA5)

608
Not only has the contempt been scuttled, but the reason for the contempt has been forgotten.

No one was ever held accountable for obama's illegal and unethical fast and furious gun running to gangs scandal.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:50 PM (omuEe)

609 607 lol, Ace a reactionary?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 06:49 PM (0NdlF)


Reacting to teh stooopid, yes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:50 PM (CMkNk)

610 607
John Boner and McTurtle walk into a bar tonight. 5 minutes later both are carried out on stretchers.
Posted by: wth at March 03, 2015 06:50 PM (wAQA5)


With sheets over their heads? Don't make my mouth water.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:50 PM (CMkNk)

611 The blame for this lies in the idiots who refused to support Romney in 2012.

#Jebba2016

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Rascal Scooter Brigade at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (Q819Q)

612 @505

Crosspatch makes some good points. Purity is nice, but you won't find it in politics. You have to take what you get and make the best of it.



Something the Horde should consider.



Being anarchist might be fun, but it accomplishes nothing.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (0FSuD)

613 This is what you get for not voting for crazy people. Only crazy people have what it takes.
Posted by: DocMerlin


That's starting to make a lot of sense
Posted by: Nevergiveup



Sorry. Crazy gets you Luap Nor.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (HZJjy)

614 Sorry, that's what happens when the engineers play with the slogan levers.

*slinks off*
Posted by: ConservativeMonster


Leave the wordsmithery to the effete jesters like me, Machine Man!

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (K4YiS)

615 Also, what happened to Ace's decimate 'em plan? Cull 10 out of the heard and defeat 'em.

Posted by: Lily at March 03, 2015 06:49 PM (PH+u


Culling 25 Representatives and 6 Senators (what a classical decimation would call for) isn't enough.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (cL79m)

616 He isn't a reactionary.


It's more of a spite fuck

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (zOTsN)

617 I thought the plan was to go to conference where the bills could be cleaned up, fixed up, added to, taken away from, and in general made right and then go with the 51 votes in the senate?

Is that plan now sub optimal?

Posted by: Nic Newman at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (7q/rb)

618 Can we have a happy thread, kittehs, puppehs, obituaries? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 06:46 PM (KJLlE)


Bubonic plague found in rats in NYC, that cheery enough for you? No word yet if DiBlasio was one of them.

http://tinyurl.com/pohud54

Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (yRwC8)

619 Aisle 586 - cleaned.

Posted by: Clean-up crew at March 03, 2015 06:52 PM (cL79m)

620
GOPe is worried.

Look at the desperate comments.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 06:52 PM (1Y+hH)

621 I don't even think the Nazis were this fucked up.

----

Yeah... I'm pretty sure the Nazis actually liked their country.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 03, 2015 06:52 PM (JmjOe)

622 That should be the name of the new party


Spite fuckers

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:52 PM (zOTsN)

623
Crosspatch makes some good points. Purity is nice, but you won't find it in politics. You have to take what you get and make the best of it.
Posted by: Nip Sip




Quel suprise.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (kdS6q)

624 I am so sick of hearing TEXAS!!!! all the time.

Georgia is an open carry state. We've been voted one of the top states to do business in.

And yeah, we've got illegals crawling around here, but we round them up and ship them back.

Jeeze, enough with the TEXAS!!!!! is where to go crap.

Come to Georgia.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (FsuaD)

625 Damn. Forgot to put wine in the fridge. Gotta wait.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:20 PM (CMkNk)


Fastest way to cool anything down is to immerse it in ice water.

Posted by: CQD at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (2dzsA)

626 >the Right is not reactionary enough

This troll knows his shit

Posted by: kartoffel at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (szYND)

627 I hope Harry Reid's exercise equipment pays a little visit to Boehner next.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (sH832)

628 More U.S. Americans need to understand the indemnifications of this.

Posted by: Miss Teen America at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (Dwehj)

629 I thought the plan was to go to conference where the bills could be cleaned up, fixed up, added to, taken away from, and in general made right and then go with the 51 votes in the senate?

Is that plan now sub optimal?

Posted by: Nic Newman at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (7q/rb)


Yes because it would give someone other than my good friend Dingy Harry a voice in what the bill says.

Posted by: Jean Bo(eh)ner at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (cL79m)

630 621 Yeah... I'm pretty sure the Nazis actually liked their country.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 03, 2015 06:52 PM (JmjOe)

That's the problem.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (CMkNk)

631 Also, what happened to Ace's decimate 'em plan? Cull 10 out of the heard


DOA. Because he won't let us really decimate them.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 06:54 PM (HZJjy)

632
You have to take what you get and make the best of it.


No I don't. You say that about your kids and family, maybe, because you can't pick them or throw them out.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:54 PM (omuEe)

633 >>Bubonic plague found in rats in NYC, that cheery enough for you? No word yet if DiBlasio was one of them.



Where does all the rat shit go? Seriously. There are way more rats than there are people. Where are they pooping?

Posted by: Garrett at March 03, 2015 06:54 PM (r75HN)

634 625 Fastest way to cool anything down is to immerse it in ice water.
Posted by: CQD at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (2dzsA)

35-40 minutes in the freezer. Just about done now. Thanks for the reminder!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:54 PM (CMkNk)

635 New Party: Truth and Reconciliation, Righteous Indignation Party of the Burners, Scatterers and Salters.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 06:54 PM (16bOT)

636 This is not a "purity" issue. smdh

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 06:54 PM (9BRsg)

637 Bubonic plague found in rats in NYC, that cheery enough for you? No word yet if DiBlasio was one of them.

http://tinyurl.com/pohud54

Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (yRwC


Where do you think the rats got the bubonic plague from...

Posted by: The Bubonic-Free Hat at March 03, 2015 06:55 PM (0Ew3K)

638
John Boner and McTurtle walk into a bar tonight, named The Pink Cowboy Hat.
McTurtle whispers: "We may be safe here, but keep your eyes open."

Posted by: wth at March 03, 2015 06:55 PM (wAQA5)

639 New Party: Truth and Reconciliation, Righteous Indignation Party of the Burners, Scatterers and Salters.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 06:54 PM (16bOT)


I'm going Dragonheads.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2015 06:55 PM (FMbng)

640 Spite Fuckers? Yeah I saw them open for Little Dicky and Cockroaches back in '82

Posted by: That Guy at March 03, 2015 06:55 PM (AkOaV)

641 Where does all the rat shit go? Seriously. There are way more rats than there are people. Where are they pooping?

Posted by: Garrett at March 03, 2015 06:54 PM (r75HN)


Gracie Mansion.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:55 PM (cL79m)

642 Mind the door on the way out.


Posted by: crosspatch at March 03, 2015 06:33 PM (PCyWo)

wide stance that is

Posted by: Regular guy formerly LBJ at March 03, 2015 06:55 PM (XYKz+)

643 Jeeze, enough with the TEXAS!!!!! is where to go crap. Come to Georgia.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (FsuaD)

Yes, it's the place to be!

Posted by: All the Villains and Zombies in The Walking Dead at March 03, 2015 06:55 PM (yRwC8)

644 how about some odd news to change the tone?

The biggest maraschino cherry makers in the country had a massive factory in NYC and it was raided recently because it also housed... a gigantic pot factory. I'm not kidding, the owner actually hung himself in disgrace and despair when it was found out that Dell's Maraschino Cherry Plant also housed 1200 pot plants.

http://tinyurl.com/pptthz7

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:56 PM (39g3+)

645
Where does all the rat shit go


Long time passing...

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:56 PM (omuEe)

646 "Come to Georgia."
-Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (FsuaD)

Your water smells of sulphur! Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 06:56 PM (16bOT)

647 >>Fastest way to cool anything down is to immerse it in ice water


Or have Hillary hold it between her thighs for 10 minutes.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 03, 2015 06:56 PM (r75HN)

648 Go to Georgia. They need more conservatives.


Runs


Hides


Spite fu ks.

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 06:56 PM (zOTsN)

649 No I don't. You say that about your kids and family, maybe, because you can't pick them or throw them out.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 06:54 PM (omuEe)

Well, once they are elected, like your kids, you are stuck with them till the next election. That's the point. Work with what you have, change that when you can, not before.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 06:56 PM (0FSuD)

650 626 >the Right is not reactionary enough

This troll knows his shit
Posted by: kartoffel at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (szYND)


That's what I was just saying to my rock-ribbed concerned Christian friends over fair-trade tea & gluten-free crackers in my 3000-room mansion.

Posted by: J. Dzukashvili, just another Georgia patriot at March 03, 2015 06:57 PM (Q819Q)

651 The biggest maraschino cherry makers in the country had a massive factory in NYC and it was raided recently because it also housed... a gigantic pot factory. I'm not kidding, the owner actually hung himself in disgrace and despair when it was found out that Dell's Maraschino Cherry Plant also housed 1200 pot plants.

http://tinyurl.com/pptthz7

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:56 PM (39g3+)


Sooo, the cherry really was the cherry on top.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2015 06:57 PM (FMbng)

652

Whoa, I think Levin is lurking here. He just said if SCOAMF raises taxes on his own, we should disobey and not pay.

First Ace and now Levin. Shit's getting real.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:57 PM (CMkNk)

653 Jeeze, enough with the TEXAS!!!!! is where to go crap. Come to Georgia.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (FsuaD)


North Dakota - yes it's cold, but the ObamiNation will have to use conventional weapons to vaporize us there unless they want to sacrifice the People's Republic of Minnesota.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 06:57 PM (cL79m)

654 Where are they pooping?

---

Where ever they want......city boy......

Posted by: fixerupper at March 03, 2015 06:57 PM (JmjOe)

655
Sorry. Crazy gets you Luap Nor.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 06:51 PM (HZJjy)

Not that kind of crazy. Genghis Khan type of crazy. Ya know my kind of crazy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 06:58 PM (nzKvP)

656 646
"Come to Georgia."

-Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 06:53 PM (FsuaD)

We got great peanuts!

Posted by: Jimmah Carter, second worst president evah at March 03, 2015 06:58 PM (0FSuD)

657 647 Or have Hillary hold it between her thighs for 10 minutes.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 03, 2015 06:56 PM (r75HN)


So that explains the perpetual frost around Huma's ears.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:58 PM (CMkNk)

658 >>>346 Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite at the GOP, I'm out of here.
Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)>>>

What about supporting your enemies out of delusion? That's what the GOP voters are doing.

Posted by: gm at March 03, 2015 06:59 PM (/kBoL)

659 Boy am I in a piss poor mood and I have a conference call tonight. Nobody better cross me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 06:59 PM (nzKvP)

660 When Texas goes all Mejican, you'll pine for Georgia. And we have mountains and a beautiful coast.

If we could just exclude Federally Occupied Atlanta.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 06:59 PM (FsuaD)

661
Cheers, bitches!

(**raises glass**)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 06:59 PM (CMkNk)

662 And I can't stand maraschino cherries, anyway.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:59 PM (39g3+)

663 659 Boy am I in a piss poor mood and I have a conference call tonight. Nobody better cross me
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 06:59 PM (nzKvP)

Laughing gas, bro.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (CMkNk)

664 Well, everyone in Georgia is armed. Openly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (FsuaD)

665 Georgia is great! Just stay away from the Azerbijanis. Holy crap, those guys suck.

Posted by: J. Dzukashvili, just another Georgia patriot at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (Q819Q)

666 Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite at the GOP, I'm out of here.
Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)>>>

Let him blow off steam. He is not stupid enough to support any democrats. I hope

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (nzKvP)

667 >>housed... a gigantic pot factory. I'm not kidding, the owner actually hung himself in disgrace and despair when it was found out that Dell's Maraschino Cherry Plant also housed 1200 pot plants.



That's the pits, man.

Posted by: Garrett at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (r75HN)

668 Well, everyone in Georgia is armed. Openly.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (FsuaD)


Niiice.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (FMbng)

669

666th???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (CMkNk)

670 If we could just exclude Federally Occupied Atlanta.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 06:59 PM (FsuaD)


I dunno. I hear tell Savannah is sorta goin all Myrtle Beach lately IYKWIMAITTYD

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (V+kmg)

671 Laughing gas, bro.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (CMkNk)

I'm home. The only type of gas here is PSE&Gs or mine

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 07:01 PM (nzKvP)

672 Let him blow off steam. He is not stupid enough to support any democrats. I hope
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (nzKvP)


Hope is not a method.

...

It is, however, a technique.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 07:01 PM (V+kmg)

673
What's Ace thinking right now?

a) I picked the wrong week to quit smoking.
b) I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
c) I should be playing Dungeons & Dragons.
d) Oh, look at the cute puppies!!

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 07:01 PM (omuEe)

674 669

666th???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (CMkNk)


Missed it by thatmuch.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at March 03, 2015 07:01 PM (cL79m)

675
Where does all the rat shit go
you don't think those are really raisins in raisinettes do you

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 07:02 PM (lKyWE)

676 671 I'm home. The only type of gas here is PSE&Gs or mine
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 07:01 PM (nzKvP)

Dutch Oven!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:02 PM (CMkNk)

677 Not that kind of crazy. Genghis Khan type of crazy. Ya know my kind of crazy


Oh. IOW, me!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:02 PM (HZJjy)

678 Doc Holliday came from Georgia.

And that's a good thing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 03, 2015 07:02 PM (oFCZn)

679 >>What's Ace thinking right now?

He's currently smacking Neil de Grasse Tyson around on Twitter.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:03 PM (9BRsg)

680 Dutch Oven!


Eeeewww!

Posted by: Miss Teen America at March 03, 2015 07:03 PM (Dwehj)

681 666
Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite at the GOP, I'm out of here.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 03, 2015 06:11 PM (pAlYe)>>


So true, note your post number!



Did you see I ordered 20 cases of Valium for the horde?



Ewok probably trying to stop smoking again and in a bad mood.

Posted by: Jimmah Carter, second worst president evah at March 03, 2015 07:03 PM (0FSuD)

682 That should cheer him

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 07:03 PM (zOTsN)

683 You want the truth?
You can't handle the truth!

Jeb Bush as president and democrat control of both houses of congress.

Take that future boy.

Posted by: Col. Nathan R. Jessup at March 03, 2015 07:03 PM (7q/rb)

684 Port of Savannah is the busiest in the U. S. Beats Charleston.

Enough with Texas all the time.

Every time my husband's headhunter puts out a nationwide search for IT guys, he gets more respondents from...Texas...and California than any other states.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (FsuaD)

685 The only real difference between the Democrats and Republicans is one party pretends to like me.

Posted by: Eliott Spitter at March 03, 2015 06:27 PM (5fSr7)
---
The Democrats said that? Effing liars...

Posted by: The Republicans at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (3uNuH)

686 If you throw your lot in with any party except the winning party, you are wasting your voice.

Posted by: J. Dzukashvili, just another Georgia patriot at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (Q819Q)

687 And it took me 1 1/2 hours to get home tonight. usually takes 25 minutes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (nzKvP)

688
or as I call him, Ace's Punching Bag

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (omuEe)

689 Yeah he's mocking the "I f'ing love science" idiots who don't actually know science. They're driven not by an actual love of science, but a hate of Christianity and a love of naturalistic materialism. Yes, logical positivism was demolished in the early 20th century but ignorant people have always clung to it anyway.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (39g3+)

690 >>>Let him blow off steam. He is not stupid enough to support any democrats. I hope
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 07:00 PM (nzKvP)>>>

Just as stupid to support a Republican. But, that said, you get into a polling booth, it's awful hard to actually pull the lever for the Democrat ,,, you can talk tough before you get in there, but once you do ,,, I generally (and by that, I mean in 2014) just leave it blank because the revulsion of voting Democrat is too great.

Posted by: gm at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (/kBoL)

691 I gave Boehner a boner. He said, "It hurts. Get it out!"
I said "Not until you give 0bama what he wants. You know your sh*tty little state is going to vote donkey next election - get with the program." I pumped him hard.
He said, "I give up. 0bama can have is way. Just get your stick out of my bleeding arse."

Posted by: Barney F. at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (Ba7Uq)

692 Texas is very easy for a Yankee to adapt to, I know from experience. I really don't think that can be said of much of the Deep South.

Chacun a son gout.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:05 PM (9BRsg)

693 687 And it took me 1 1/2 hours to get home tonight. usually takes 25 minutes
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (nzKvP)


Listening to the traffic report on WABC. Horrible out there with the sleet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:05 PM (CMkNk)

694 Every time my husband's headhunter puts out a nationwide search for IT guys, he gets more respondents from...Texas...and California than any other states.

Take care importing fruits and nuts from Commiefornia.

Just sayin'!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 07:05 PM (0NdlF)

695 Enough with Texas all the time.



Pssst. No state income tax. State legislature meets every other year.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:05 PM (HZJjy)

696 You want the truth?
You can't handle the truth!

Jeb Bush as president and democrat control of both houses of congress.

Take that future boy.

Posted by: Col. Nathan R. Jessup at March 03, 2015 07:03 PM (7q/rb)


You think America would survive 8 years of Jeb being the bottom of the Grand Coalition with Hitlery?

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:05 PM (cL79m)

697 Sorry but if ace starts supporting my enemies out of spite at the GOP, I'm out of here.

Uh, I hate to break it to you, but the GOP is supporting your enemies.

Posted by: how now brown cow at March 03, 2015 07:06 PM (coFf3)

698 684
Port of Savannah is the busiest in the U. S. Beats Charleston.



Yeah, horse shit. 40% of ALL imported goods comes through Long Beach, CA


I think you mean on the East Coast.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:06 PM (0FSuD)

699 Oops. Meant Savannah port is *fourth* busiest in the nation.

And the gnats keep the Yankee population down. So there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:06 PM (FsuaD)

700
Time to prepare for the gym...

/takes out needle

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 07:06 PM (omuEe)

701 My in-laws live outside Atlanta. I don't know if I could ever live there. Everyone looks at me like I'm crazy because I don't talk at a proper, southern speed.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 07:06 PM (MYCIw)

702 Texas is largely made up of Yankees who moved there after the Civil War, really. Its not like it has a history of old families and structures from the 17th century like the Carolinas.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:07 PM (39g3+)

703 Everyone looks at me like I'm crazy because I don't talk at a proper, southern speed.

Fortunately, on the Internets, no one can tell how fast you type.

Unless you're chain-posting like a hamster on steroids.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 07:07 PM (0NdlF)

704
I will continue working here in NY to effect change--as I have frequently posted here.

No quitting, giving in--NONE of that.

Gonna remain, because when it crumbles, as it must, someone with a modicum of sense needs to make sure we don't wind up in the same mess after the rebuild.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 03, 2015 07:07 PM (jeCnD)

705 University.of georgia took a vote.on investment in Israel



They demanded it increase

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 07:07 PM (zOTsN)

706 Texas is largely made up of Yankees who moved there after the Civil War, really. Its not like it has a history of old families and structures from the 17th century like the
Carolinas.



Less inbreeding.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:08 PM (HZJjy)

707 Fortunately, on the Internets, no one can tell how fast you type.

Unless you're chain-posting like a hamster on steroids.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 07:07 PM (0NdlF)


Hey,youwatchwhatyousayaboutme!

Posted by: Roided-up hamster at March 03, 2015 07:08 PM (cL79m)

708 Texas blows the rest of the states out of the water on job growth and historical trends on median household income.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:08 PM (9BRsg)

709 Texas is largely made up of Yankees who moved there after the Civil War, really. Its not like it has a history of old families and structures from the 17th century like the Carolinas.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:07 PM (39g3+)


So you're saying that there's less inbreeding in Texas than the Carolinas?

::: runs :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 07:09 PM (V+kmg)

710 701
My in-laws live outside Atlanta. I don't know if I could ever live
there. Everyone looks at me like I'm crazy because I don't talk at a
proper, southern speed.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 07:06 PM (MYCIw)


Good grief. NO one in Atlanta has a southern accent! Mostly NE libs live there now. My own idiot life coach SIL, has *never* had a southern accent.

Anyone with a Southern accent is looked upon as a cousin-screwing, mouth-breathing idiot. Sad.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:09 PM (FsuaD)

711 Texas doesn't work for me. Twelve hours in that state and I have an incapacitating migraine. Something in the dust.

Posted by: Carie Otter at March 03, 2015 07:09 PM (7q/rb)

712
Justified is on tonight. Maybe Ava will buy the farm.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 07:09 PM (omuEe)

713 Link for roll call:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll109.xml

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 03, 2015 07:10 PM (2o6Wj)

714 Twelve hours in that state and I have an incapacitating migraine. Something in the dust.
---

Go to Houston. There is no dust, only mold.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:10 PM (9BRsg)

715 "Good grief. NO one in Atlanta has a southern accent! "

Clearly, you have never met my husband's family.

(Actually, you probably have. His grandfather has 13 siblings, and they're all pretty big in GA)

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 07:10 PM (MYCIw)

716 Anyone with a Southern accent is looked upon as a cousin-screwing, mouth-breathing idiot. Sad.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:09 PM (FsuaD)


Humor me please.

Just....just tell me that there are still sweet Georgia peaches with that soft drawl.

It's OK. Lie to me. I'll believe you. And then....bunk

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 07:10 PM (V+kmg)

717 Promise to strip non taxpayers of voting privileges for starters.

I don't pay taxes and I'd sign on to that.

Justified is on tonight. Maybe Ava will buy the farm.

I think Ava is going to survive. I know Raylan will. Not sure about anyone else.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:10 PM (39g3+)

718 698 I think you mean on the East Coast.
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:06 PM (0FSuD)

Newark, NJ is either 1 or 2, unless I'm mistaken.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:11 PM (CMkNk)

719 There.is.every pollen in the usa.in houston. Everybody has.sinus issues

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 07:11 PM (zOTsN)

720 I concur with Jane. Georgia is great. We do need more conservatives though.

Posted by: freaked at March 03, 2015 07:11 PM (JdEZJ)

721 Texas is very easy for a Yankee to adapt to, I know from experience. I really don't think that can be said of much of the Deep South.

Chacun a son gout.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:05 PM (9BRsg)


I used to go to Texas 2 times a year for guitar shows. It was always a blast. The suburbs around Dallas were really nice, tons of stores for just about everything, a lot of new cars, modern looking, and no 10 gallon hats to my surprise. I could deal with it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2015 07:11 PM (FMbng)

722 Direct quote from Aunt Lou-Dean

"Child, I never am quite sure what you're saying."

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 07:12 PM (MYCIw)

723 Humor me please.



Just....just tell me that there are still sweet Georgia peaches with that soft drawl.



It's OK. Lie to me. I'll believe you. And then....bunk

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 07:10 PM (V+kmg)



Oh, yes there are. Come to Savannah. Sweet Georgia Peaches know how to turn on the accent for potential Yankee suitors. Trust me.

*looks around innocently*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:12 PM (FsuaD)

724 I saw Spite Fuckers open for the New York Dolls at CBGBs

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 07:12 PM (KJLlE)

725


I meant to post this earlier, but by my calculations today I am 20,000 days old.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:12 PM (CMkNk)

726 My experiences of the south is that the Carolinas are pretty but are apparently run by either idiots or the most corrupt people on the planet. Georgia was beautiful, and Florida is awful. I cannot conceive of why a single person would ever live in Florida by choice. Blistering hot and humid, wracked by hurricanes, no scenery, and filled with obnoxious leftists, except up north where if you aren't 10th generation cracker you're viewed like a turd on grandma's best china.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:13 PM (39g3+)

727 Weasel riding a woodpecker. 3rd pic down. Bibi or Putin riding the weasel riding the woodpecker.
Goes to buzzfeed.


http://bzfd.it/18iTMDp

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:13 PM (HZJjy)

728 725. Thanks JJ. We're not that far apart.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 03, 2015 07:13 PM (wVWRM)

729
So, dogs live, what, 3000 days?

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 07:13 PM (omuEe)

730 My son, my sister, and my sister in law all live in Atlanta.


They love it. Too damn big and the traffic sucks.



That's all I got.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:14 PM (0FSuD)

731
As I said before, very few people live where there vote matters. Ace lives where - NY, NJ? Hard to imagine his vote matters one way or the other.

So why all the drama about his understandable demonstration of spite?

News flash: most of you don't live where your vote, or 1,000 times your vote, will ever make a difference. The country is dramatically different than just 30 years ago, the House (and most large state legislatures) are effectively gerrymandered (look at the turnover rates, federal and large states - compare to turnover in Supreme Soviet, a mostly rubber-stamp Soviet farce, in the 80s).

And for those with state-wide initiative statute (referendum) option in your state constitutions: ha. Please see Prop. Eight in CA for the new shiny de facto abolition of this process for any big matter than can be somehow crammed into the (farcical) judicial process. That is, if you have Dem or est. GOP governor and AG.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2015 07:14 PM (afQnV)

732 Oh, yes there are. Come to Savannah. Sweet Georgia Peaches know how to turn on the accent for potential Yankee suitors. Trust me.

*looks around innocently*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:12 PM (FsuaD)



Do you have any phone numbers, perchance?

You know for....research purposes only.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 07:15 PM (V+kmg)

733 So, dogs live, what, 3000 days?

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 07:13 PM (omuEe)


I prefer them to be under 300 days - they're a lot more tender at that age.

Posted by: The Dog-Eater-In-Chief at March 03, 2015 07:15 PM (cL79m)

734 *looks around innocently*


*avoids direct eye contact*

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 03, 2015 07:15 PM (0NdlF)

735 I could deal with it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2015 07:11 PM (FMbng


Don't go in the summer.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:16 PM (0FSuD)

736 I used to go to Texas 2 times a year for guitar shows. It was always a blast.
---

My family is from Massachusetts, as is my husband, although I grew up in Maryland. We moved from Boston to Houston after we'd been married about 10 yrs. Took a lot of shit from the a-hole Bostonians about moving there, but Houston was terrific. People were great, city had everything you'd want, very cosmopolitan. Global, really.

I always thought Boston was overrated.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:16 PM (9BRsg)

737 Right or wrong, the performance of Republicans is driving people away.

Or is it bringing more people on board?

GOPe defenders, what say you? Are you making the tent bigger or smaller by being more "reasonable" or whatever you call these machinations?

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 07:16 PM (1Y+hH)

738 Hey,youwatchwhatyousayaboutme!
Posted by: Roided-up hamster at March 03, 2015 07:08 PM (cL79m)

Thank you for the chuckle

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 03, 2015 07:16 PM (KJLlE)

739 Yes, logical positivism was demolished in the early 20th century

Was it? This is one critique (I'm very close to using scare-quotes on the) I found on Wikipedia:

In 1958, Norwood Hanson's Patterns of Discovery undermined the division of observation versus theory, as one can predict, collect, prioritize, and assess data only via some horizon of expectation set by a theory. Thus, any dataset-the direct observations, the scientific facts-is laden with theory.

If I'm reading this right, positivism was found to be incompatible with post-modernist bullsh!t. So it wasn't refuted; it was declared unfashionable and abandoned.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 03, 2015 07:16 PM (AVEe1)

740 "When Democrats win elections, Democrats get what they want.
When Republicans win elections, Democrats get what they want."

--me

Posted by: Null at March 03, 2015 07:16 PM (xjpRj)

741 Roll call on vote if anyone is still interested. (Does not show party affiliation)

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll109.xml

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 03, 2015 07:16 PM (2o6Wj)

742 I meant to post this earlier, but by my calculations today I am 20,000 days old.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:12 PM (CMkNk)


I don't think I'm making it to that old age.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:17 PM (cL79m)

743 Texas is largely made up of Yankees who moved there after the Civil War, really. Its not like it has a history of old families and structures from the 17th century like the Carolinas.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:07 PM (39g3+)
---
The Carolinas? I have three words for you: Lindsey Bernadette Graham!

Posted by: The Republicans at March 03, 2015 07:17 PM (3uNuH)

744 Also I hate going to Atlanta and can't understand why anyone would want to live there. It may be in Georgia but it's not like the rest of the state.

Posted by: freaked at March 03, 2015 07:17 PM (JdEZJ)

745 I meant to post this earlier, but by my calculations today I am 20,000 days old.



19,096 days.

Cheated and used the Days Until app.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:17 PM (HZJjy)

746 Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:14 PM (0FSuD)

Yeah. My commute is great!

Posted by: Monroe NC commuter at March 03, 2015 07:17 PM (wVWRM)

747 Get off you Republican sock!

Posted by: Elize Nayden at March 03, 2015 07:18 PM (3uNuH)

748 742 I don't think I'm making it to that old age.
Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:17 PM (cL79m)

Just under 55 years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:18 PM (CMkNk)

749 Dammit. Last night, Daddy owl brought a live snake to the kids and Mom.

They've taken the video down. Apparently, tender souls don't mind birds and rats being eaten alive, but *snakes?*

Precious, delicate snowflakes.

Jeeze.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:18 PM (FsuaD)

750 I will agree that in my limited experience, southern girls really know how to treat a man they like. And then, when they decide they don't like him, suddenly walk away as if you never existed. Its very confusing trying to figure out where it all went.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:18 PM (39g3+)

751 Wow, remember Tom Tancredo?

Yeah neither do I.

Posted by: Jeanne of the Great White North at March 03, 2015 07:18 PM (QZKeA)

752 @741

Democrats are in italics

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:19 PM (0FSuD)

753 When I was a kid, 98 pounds, getting sand kicked in my face whenever I went to the beach, I loved it hot. The hotter the better.

Then I went into the army.

Ate three meals a day, and came out weighing 220. Now I can't stand the heat. Anything over 75 degrees is too hot. Anything south of 46 degrees latitude is too far south.

Posted by: Carie Otter at March 03, 2015 07:19 PM (7q/rb)

754 The WSJ is gleeful about the McConnell/Boehner cave.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 03, 2015 07:19 PM (zauWW)

755 Just under 55 years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:18 PM (CMkNk)


Like I said,....

Most of us probably don't have another 3 years in us.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:19 PM (cL79m)

756 Geezer


Look at the huge pit bull at the nypost. Lordy

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 07:20 PM (zOTsN)

757
btw, some of you mentioned Chantix the other day, (the med to help quit smoking), and mentioned the side effects of vivid dreams and, maybe, erections.

That's because Chantix causes a release of Dopamine!

If you want deep, restful sleep (with crazy vivid dreams), get your hands on some L-Dopa. It is totes legal and cheap.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 07:20 PM (omuEe)

758 If I'm reading this right, positivism was found to be incompatible with post-modernist bullsh!t

Depends on who you're looking at. Philosophers rather quickly abandoned it because it was self refuting. It argued in essence that only that which you can sense, scientifically study, and measure actually existed - but the very argument and the mind used to come up with it was impossible to sense, measure, and scientifically study.

In other words: it argued that it couldn't exist. Its very argument used the exact tools and concepts that it said were not there.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:20 PM (39g3+)

759 755 Just under 55 years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:18 PM (CMkNk)

Like I said,....

Most of us probably don't have another 3 years in us.
Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:19 PM (cL79m)

I'm waiting for the head transplant to be perfected, I'm gonna live forever.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (DNTer)

760 Wow, remember Tom Tancredo? Yeah neither do I.

Lost the primary to Beauprez because Beauprez was electable. Beauprez, in turn, failed to get elected himself.

That's usually how it goes.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (AVEe1)

761 I always thought Boston was overrated.
Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:16 PM (9BRsg)

I had grandparents there so visited a lot. Boston has some charm, and some good history to see.

The problems with Boston are it was built before autos and socialists are like fleas in Florida.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (1Y+hH)

762 Which one of you morons is Bill Allen?

Posted by: lindafell in her own time zone at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (LbPGR)

763 Texas sucks so much please don't come here you guys. I'm totally looking out for your best interests guys I promise. Texas is the worst especially Houston. Summary don't don't don't move to Houston.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (UtEx8)

764 Y-not.

I just ate, I'm pretty stuffed already, thanks.

But seriously: This is some vaginal idiocy going on here.

Posted by: Clevon Stepinfetchit at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (1GLXo)

765 759 I'm waiting for the head transplant to be perfected, I'm gonna live forever.
Posted by: Hillary! at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (DNTer)


Better to get than give, right?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (CMkNk)

766
22,635

Posted by: kj at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (lKyWE)

767
Drew McCoy DrewMTips
I'm firmly convinced if the GOP had 565 House Seats, 243 Senate Seats, 34 SCOTUS Justices and 6 Presidents at same time they'd cave to Dems.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (kdS6q)

768 The WSJ is gleeful about the McConnell/Boehner cave.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget

Of course we are. How many Columbia J-School grads are sneaking across the border?

Posted by: "Severely Conservative" WSJ at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (GuwT9)

769 'Just under 55 years'

Damn JJ me too.

Posted by: freaked at March 03, 2015 07:22 PM (JdEZJ)

770 More petulance from choomboy:

http://tinyurl.com/l3j87df

Obama reportedly reduces intelligence cooperation with Israel.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 03, 2015 07:22 PM (BZAd3)

771 When you can't pull the lever for the Gorillas or the Chimps, go with the Orangutans. They probably smoke weed and they got Dr. Zaius. Vote Dr. Zaius.

Posted by: otho at March 03, 2015 07:22 PM (tBSrv)

772 That's because Chantix causes a release of Dopamine!


Also causes suicidal and homicidal thoughts.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:22 PM (HZJjy)

773 Is Ace gonna be a Charles Johnson Democrat? Cause thatd gonna suck.

Posted by: kansas at March 03, 2015 07:22 PM (vqsBK)

774 The problems with Boston are it was built before autos and socialists are like fleas in Florida.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (1Y+hH)


That's exactly why I loved it. It wasn't built for cars so it was (and is) very walkable.

Of course, I also grew up there so that might have something to do with it....

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 07:22 PM (V+kmg)

775 I've become a non voter.

I mean, what's the point?

The outcomes differ only in the names of who profits and those not much different in many cases.

The fix is in.

It's why I wouldn't bet on a WWF wrestling match.

And I'm so glad to see so many new but belated converts to my opinion. Held since the beginning of last year. Actually longer ago but I still held out hope until they started telegraphing their moves to the public at large.

I believe they started doing that as a goof. Just to see how lemming like we'd be and continue to vote for them instead of the hated Democrats even though they've been more dishonest about their intentions than any Democrat I've ever seen/heard.

They're up there on the Hill laughing at us.

And we deserve it. (well not me, I didn't vote last year as my choices were either mirrors or non existent.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 03, 2015 07:23 PM (zRby/)

776 If Ace is done will there still be a blog?

Because well.... I'd like.... have to get a life.


Other than Tequila I mean.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 03, 2015 07:23 PM (JgQLj)

777 >>John Boner and McTurtle walk into a bar tonight, named The Pink Cowboy Hat.
McTurtle whispers: "We may be safe here, but keep your eyes open."


Good thought, didn't work for me though.

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 03, 2015 07:23 PM (sQzB6)

778
This post is getting rather stale, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:23 PM (CMkNk)

779 JJ, you're 106?

geez, way to go man!

Posted by: CommonCore at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (TPjwz)

780
Also causes suicidal and homicidal thoughts.

Causes? I'd guess it more like enhances.



Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (omuEe)

781 Former Senator Tom Coburn on Greta just now says he's working on an article 5 convention.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (KFdZd)

782 Speaking of Boston, have y'all seen the horrific tweets that people sent to Curt Schilling regarding his daughter?

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (MYCIw)

783 All the Obama bots are.knifing hillary.

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (zOTsN)

784 This post is getting rather stale, no?



At this point, what does it matter?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (HZJjy)

785 765 759 I'm waiting for the head transplant to be perfected, I'm gonna live forever.
Posted by: Hillary! at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (DNTer)


Better to get than give, right?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:21 PM (CMkNk)

Learned from the ultimate leech himself, Bill, he got it all over the Oval office

Posted by: Hillary! at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (DNTer)

786 769
'Just under 55 years'



Damn JJ me too.

Posted by: freaked at March 03, 2015 07:22 PM (JdEZJ)

Shit, Vic and I have shoes older than that.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:25 PM (0FSuD)

787 This post is getting rather stale, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:23 PM (CMkNk)


I stopped picking over the crumbs 50 replies ago.

Posted by: The birds at March 03, 2015 07:25 PM (cL79m)

788 Yeah, I've just been lurking for a while now.

Nothing further to say.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 07:25 PM (AkOaV)

789 " Former Senator Tom Coburn on Greta just now says he's working on an article 5 convention."

Fuck yeah.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 07:25 PM (MYCIw)

790 781 Former Senator Tom Coburn on Greta just now says he's working on an article 5 convention.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (KFdZd)


Good. Needs to be done, if not at least seriously attempted.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:25 PM (CMkNk)

791 All the Obama bots are.knifing hillary.
Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (zOTsN)


Good. Hopefully they'll nominate Fauxcahontas.

Have you ever seen her campaign? I've seen cow patties with more personality.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 03, 2015 07:25 PM (V+kmg)

792
Didn't you kinda know it was Over when reid successfully publicly lobbied for cowboy poetry during a recession?

That's when I knew.

Posted by: Soothsayer The Incorrigble II at March 03, 2015 07:26 PM (omuEe)

793 No it's rural Texas that is awful. Don't move there. Houston is LBGT heaven, move into Sheila Jackson Lee's district and be happy. Rural Texas is teabagger rednecks galore.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 03, 2015 07:26 PM (zauWW)

794 Long-timer here, never commented. Never said much of anything to political figures. E-mailed Boehner tonight from my hotel in the UK -- I'm a taxpayer, so I work, sometimes thousands of miles from home.

I graduated with chances to attend multiple universities, even as the spawn of a single mother. I put myself through 12 years of "higher"-ed because I could, working at Perkins as a line-cook, and other shit-shoveling jobs. I did two years post-grad for .gov because it made the most sense. I have remained employed for two "redundancies" at my current job in ten years. I survive because I am an individual who perseveres even if someone isn't wiping my ass.

I mentioned my "lack of satisfaction" as a father, husband, conservative, and voter to Boehner. I mentioned my future voting patterns will not include anyone without conservative bona fides to Boehner. "I" is a common theme in our culture, as it is the lowest common denominator. But fuck it and fuck you, "I" is what I can control.

I'd vote for people like Prof. Dave Brat (I'm a Salvador-VA resident), Gov. Scott Walker (WI born), or Sen. Ted Cruz (Texan-in-waiting?) for POTUS. Otherwise I am through. No more Romney. No more McCain. I have reached my limit. Conservative, or fuck off you sell-out fucks. I've got enough fairy dust in my life.

Posted by: QQQQ at March 03, 2015 07:26 PM (3aPiK)

795 Shit, Vic and I have shoes older than that.


Ha! Ya old fart!

Posted by: freaked at March 03, 2015 07:26 PM (JdEZJ)

796 Curt Schilling may be an ex ball player geek but he seems like a guy who'd go through hell and come out the other side fighting. I wouldn't make him mad.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:26 PM (39g3+)

797 #failuretheater

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 03, 2015 07:26 PM (u8GsB)

798 The best part of this blog is the heckling.

well, and the puns. sometimes.

and you can be anyone ya wanna be. Where else can you do that? With good humor?

Posted by: Carie Otter at March 03, 2015 07:27 PM (7q/rb)

799 'Just under 55 years'



Mid 1960?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:27 PM (HZJjy)

800 Ha! Ya old fart!

Posted by: freaked at March 03, 2015 07:26 PM (JdEZJ)

Guilty with an explanation your honor.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:27 PM (0FSuD)

801 QQQQ,
Pay attention to how you raise your kids. Take care of your own. That's about all you can do right now.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:27 PM (9BRsg)

802 The biggest maraschino cherry makers in the country had a massive factory in NYC and it was raided recently because it also housed... a gigantic pot factory. I'm not kidding, the owner actually hung himself in disgrace and despair when it was found out that Dell's Maraschino Cherry Plant also housed 1200 pot plants.

http://tinyurl.com/pptthz7

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 06:56 PM (39g3+)

His friends described him as a "giant cokehead" -- I think he had coke in there, too, and the cops kept it. He shot himself, because he knew he was going away for life and would lose everything.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2015 07:27 PM (Y92Nd)

803 799 'Just under 55 years'

Mid 1960?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:27 PM (HZJjy)


Yup.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:27 PM (CMkNk)

804 Former Senator Tom Coburn on Greta just now says he's working on an article 5 convention.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 03, 2015 07:24 PM (KFdZd)


You do realize that even if Coburn means well (as Mark Levin does), Article V is a trap.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:28 PM (cL79m)

805 Hello Q

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at March 03, 2015 07:28 PM (zOTsN)

806 #runinjuinlizrun

Posted by: MSNBC at March 03, 2015 07:28 PM (0FSuD)

807 protein wisdom feels this is post was "unhelpful" since i'm a purist that doesn't understand how dc works i should leave it to politicians bloggers with better connections that do......so there's that

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (u8GsB)

808 You do realize that even if Coburn means well (as Mark Levin does), Article V is a trap.
Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:28 PM (cL79m)


No. It isn't. That's all I'll say as I don't have the strength.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (CMkNk)

809 "I'd vote for people like Prof. Dave Brat"

Pretty sure I read Brat voted for this.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (Y92Nd)

810 Oh noes!!!

Orca Winfrey closes Chicago studios, lays off 200 employees.

http://tinyurl.com/ko4kous

Sucks to be an Obamabot, sweetie.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (FsuaD)

811 Posted by: QQQQ at March 03, 2015 07:26 PM (3aPiK)

Well, I like the attitude.

But unfortunately I think you wasted the electrons writing a letter to Boehner.

He clearly does not give a shit about what the voters want.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (AkOaV)

812 Is Ace gonna be a Charles Johnson Democrat?

Predicting what the host of a blog is going to decide upon is dangerous. I wouldn't advise it.

But no, Ace has never said he is going to change his principles. He's been proposing to change tactics.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (AVEe1)

813 Want to bring down the shit house faster? Hide as much income as you can. Where feasible, demand cash as payment.



Starve the beast.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:13 PM (CMkNk)



Totally agree. It's where I am now. I used to be all patriotic and rising tides n shit but since I've been called a racist for 8+ years by my lib family and the rest of them....and all the other crap the government puts on the self employed folks now I'm just done with it. Today and going forward it's all about me and my family and my peeps. Y'all are my peeps too, just sayin'.... But reporting all of what I'm doing to the government anymore is just not happening. Fuck them, they don't need to know every little thing about my life and business, they should fix their house first.

Posted by: NC Ref at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (Myqtp)

814 You do realize that even if Coburn means well (as Mark Levin does), Article V is a trap.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:28 PM (cL79m)
-----

Everything is a trap!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 03, 2015 07:30 PM (MbrzC)

815 Mid 1960?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:27 PM (HZJjy)





Yup.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:27 PM (CMkNk)

Wait, mid 60's? Did your mom go to Daytona for Spring Break?
I might be your dad.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:30 PM (0FSuD)

816 >>807 protein wisdom feels this is post was "unhelpful"

The same PW who holds his breath and shuts down his blog every few months?

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:30 PM (9BRsg)

817 This weekend I gave away a 68 Bug to a kid I race with. I've had that car longer than he has been alive. It did make me feel kinda old but I still think I've got another 55 or so in me.

Posted by: freaked at March 03, 2015 07:30 PM (JdEZJ)

818 I have reached my limit. Conservative, or fuck off you sell-out fucks.
Posted by: QQQQ

I'm Mike Huckabee, and if elected in 2016 I will fight for you and Conservative principles. Also reminding you that if you have stained or discolored teeth, reach for the Tova Borgnine Tooth-Whitening System. The Tova Borgnine Tooth-Whitening System is available at fine retailers and truckstops everywhere.

Posted by: Mike Huckabee at March 03, 2015 07:30 PM (GuwT9)

819 ..."I have reached my limit. Conservative, or fuck off you sell-out fucks. I've got enough fairy dust in my life."
-Posted by: QQQQ at March 03, 2015 07:26 PM (3aPiK)

Welcome aboard, Sir. A deckhand will take your coat and you can have a seat at the bar. Can I offer the gentleman a cocktail, perhaps?

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 07:30 PM (16bOT)

820 That's exactly why I loved it. It wasn't built for cars so it was (and is) very walkable.

Of course, I also grew up there so that might have something to do with it....
Posted by: Sean Bannion

Well that is certainly also true of Rome. But in Rome there is something stunning found about every third step. I can easily see how growing up there would give a different outlook. My visits entailed a lot of driving unfortunately.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 07:30 PM (1Y+hH)

821 You do realize that even if Coburn means well (as Mark Levin does), Article V is a trap.
Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:28 PM (cL79m)

Yes, terrible idea.

We will lose there.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 07:30 PM (AkOaV)

822 Yup.



Sorry. Was just playing with the Days Until app.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 03, 2015 07:31 PM (HZJjy)

823 Expect to see solicitations for donations to help fund this noble Article V effort.

/sarc

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:32 PM (9BRsg)

824 "Want to bring down the shit house faster? Hide as much income as you can. Where feasible, demand cash as payment.
Starve the beast.
"
-Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 05:13 PM (CMkNk)

In Europe, that's called "What I Really Do for a Living".

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 07:32 PM (16bOT)

825 813 Posted by: NC Ref at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (Myqtp)

Way to go. I earn it, I keep it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:32 PM (CMkNk)

826 Pretty sure I read Brat voted for this.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (Y92Nd)


Which explains why Brat was a "nay".

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:32 PM (cL79m)

827 The same PW who holds his breath and shuts down his blog every few months?

Yeah I got to the point I couldn't read that blog any more. I liked it but he kept throwing a snit and banning people I liked to read and whining about being treated bad and having nervous breakdowns. It was too much drama.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:32 PM (39g3+)

828 Folks,
an Article V convention will lead to a constitution with the addition of FDRs "second bill of rights", and retain the original 9 amendments and leave everything else much more open ended (no enumerated powers).

Did I say 9 amendments? Yes, it's so weird that it skips from the 1st to the 3rd amendments like that... must have been an oversight.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 07:32 PM (AkOaV)

829 Wait, mid 60's? Did your mom go to Daytona for Spring Break?
I might be your dad.
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:30 PM (0FSuD)


Ha ha.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:33 PM (CMkNk)

830 No. It isn't. That's all I'll say as I don't have the strength.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (CMkNk)


Save the strength for what will come after the ratification of the Soviet Constitution.

Posted by: steveegg at March 03, 2015 07:34 PM (cL79m)

831 Pretty funny to see @phxazgrl being scolded by a guy who threw a temper tantrum and shut down his blog over not being part of the In Crowd.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:34 PM (9BRsg)

832 Convention of States is probably all we have left---short of a bloody revolution. Flawed though it may be, it is our last best hope.

Posted by: Don't look at me, I took Spanish at March 03, 2015 07:34 PM (E6RIJ)

833 Huckabee has a weight loss program and a cure for Type II Diabetes also. As advertised on national radio, or maybe it's WBAP online during the Limbaugh program.

Posted by: Carie Otter at March 03, 2015 07:34 PM (7q/rb)

834 As much as I'd love a constitutional convention to hammer some things out (like term limits for congress, etc) I simply do not trust modern America to do it right. We'd end up with homosexual marriage and health care in the bill of rights.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:35 PM (39g3+)

835 Way to go. I earn it, I keep it.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:32 PM (CMkNk)



"It's not what you make, it's what you keep...."

Posted by: NC Ref at March 03, 2015 07:35 PM (Myqtp)

836 Theme song for this Congress:

http://tinyurl.com/bwb86o3 (Soy un Perdedor)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 03, 2015 07:35 PM (zRby/)

837 828 Folks,
an Article V convention will lead to a constitution with the addition of FDRs "second bill of rights", and retain the original 9 amendments and leave everything else much more open ended (no enumerated powers).

Did I say 9 amendments? Yes, it's so weird that it skips from the 1st to the 3rd amendments like that... must have been an oversight.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 07:32 PM (AkOaV)


No, it won't. You have no idea how the process works at all.

Besides, what do you think is going on NOW? Obama and the Dems have a Constitutional convention every fucking day all day.

Sheesh. Read Levin's book, m'kay?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:35 PM (CMkNk)

838 I'm almost certain the GOP was complicit in the IRS targeting of the Tea Party.

Posted by: eleven at March 03, 2015 07:35 PM (MDgS8)

839 My husband and I are still furious, and barely speaking with, people who stayed home and refused to vote for a Mormon.

Thanks a shit-ton, assholes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:35 PM (FsuaD)

840
And it took me 1 1/2 hours to get home tonight. usually takes 25 minutes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2015 07:04 PM (nzKvP)





Listening to the traffic report on WABC. Horrible out there with the sleet.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:05 PM (CMkNk)








I just drove from SoCal to Texas over the weekend. The icy roads were BRUTAL in W Texas. Between Odessa and Ft Worth, we saw at least 30 big rigs freshly wrecked on I20. At. Least. Stupid bastards just would NOT slow down. It was almost impossible to get through Ft Worth on Sat night because just about every freeway was shut down due to major wrecks.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 03, 2015 07:36 PM (cSU3r)

841 Convention of States is probably all we have left---short of a bloody revolution. Flawed though it may be, it is our last best hope.

Posted by: Don't look at me, I took Spanish at March 03, 2015 07:34 PM (E6RIJ)


"Convention of States" - how quaint. We're the ones who will be calling it, deciding who sits on it, and who sits on the state-level conventions that will ratify the Soviet Constitution that will come out of it.

Posted by: Congress at March 03, 2015 07:36 PM (cL79m)

842 Big difference between a Constitutional Convention and an Article V Convention.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 07:36 PM (16bOT)

843 " being scolded by a guy who threw a temper tantrum and shut down his blog over not being part of the In Crowd."

So I'm not the only one then. Course, Ima nobody, no one noticed. This blog here is my last, best hope.

Posted by: Carie Otter at March 03, 2015 07:37 PM (7q/rb)

844 The existing constitution is been so utterly violated that I don't see much point in changing it. But if somebody wants to give it a try you got my support. Might wake up a few LIVs.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 03, 2015 07:37 PM (zauWW)

845 Since we're now all democrats, can I get a break around here?

Posted by: James Earl Carter at March 03, 2015 07:37 PM (fLKzW)

846 >>The same PW who holds his breath and shuts down his blog every few months?

-----
Yeah I got to the point I couldn't read that blog any more.
----

Same here.

I was following him on Twitter until the latest temper tantrum.

And now he's whining about ace and insulting people like phxazgirl. I assume that's the reason we're seeing an influx of know-it-alls with unknown handles.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:38 PM (9BRsg)

847 jane d'oh

the damage that has been by the scoamf lays at their feet......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 03, 2015 07:38 PM (u8GsB)

848 831
Pretty funny to see @phxazgrl being scolded by a guy who threw a temper
tantrum and shut down his blog over not being part of the In Crowd.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:34 PM (9BRsg)



That's awesome!!! I haven't been around here much lately cept for lurking every day but I know phxgirl rocks

Posted by: NC Ref at March 03, 2015 07:38 PM (Myqtp)

849 We don't need a new set of supreme laws, we just need to follow the current ones.

95% of the problems we can affect would go away if we could elect and appoint enough constitutional constructionists.

That's still a minority of our problems but that's a different discussion.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 07:38 PM (1Y+hH)

850 Sadly, Austin, TX is Savannah, GA. Hipster libs flock here for SCAD. SCAD actually has a Republican club. I'm told they have secret handshakes and meet undercover of night in undisclosed locations.

Hipsters will be the death of all of us.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:38 PM (FsuaD)

851 Ace, I am right with you! I have politically gone Galt. I will not vote for another Rhino like this again. I switched parties today. I will not vote for a Dem most likely, but I refuse to give the Republican party one dime or one membership to add to their stats. I am not a member.

Here is what they are up to with this immigration thingy. Apparently it is intended to be DIVISIVE and destructive to the country as a whole. www.independentsentinel.com/
breaking-wh-plans-to-develop-a-country-within-a-country-of-15-million-new-americans/

Posted by: Miss Done at March 03, 2015 07:38 PM (2/oBD)

852 Doesn't matter. The end result is the same, same people involved, same politics, same culture, same people in power. Nothing good would come from it.

I mean really, you're mad that the elected representatives in congress ignore you and won't do what they should.... so you think they will with a convention? Some day you gotta grow up and put down the bong.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:38 PM (39g3+)

853 842 Big difference between a Constitutional Convention and an Article V Convention.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 07:36 PM (16bOT)

Womyn need a right that gives them two votes to make up for all the years they've been oppressed.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 03, 2015 07:39 PM (DNTer)

854 I'm almost certain the GOP was complicit in the IRS targeting of the Tea Party.
---

Yeah, that thought has occurred to me.

They really hate Mark Levin and iirc he was instrumental in blowing that story wide open.

Posted by: Y-not at March 03, 2015 07:39 PM (9BRsg)

855 847
jane d'oh

the damage that has been by the scoamf lays at their feet......


Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 03, 2015 07:38 PM (u8GsB)


*waves wildly!!!*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2015 07:39 PM (FsuaD)

856 noood


charge!!!!!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 03, 2015 07:39 PM (zRby/)

857 809 -- Not from the official scorecard.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll109.xml

Sorry for the earlier vent, but this has been too much for a simple man in his cups. You do it all by the book, and they change the book.

Posted by: QQQQ at March 03, 2015 07:39 PM (3aPiK)

858 phoenixgirl is referring to PW's twitter; not the blog, which blog PW's primary host doesn't post at much anymore...

PW's longstanding theme since 2009ish is that the Right has abandoned him, because - the host believes - the Right was too caught up in being popular to the DC crowd. This is partly true. Maybe half the truth.

The host doesn't quite understand that the host is himself also, well, a bit of a passive-aggressive jerk (or at least posts like one); which jerkyness might have had some effect on why his blog doesn't get linked much these years.

So, what the PW twitter-feed is doing is trolling Ace. He's trying to get Ace to admit that PW was right all along. Except that Ace has always posted the same shit, at least thematically, that PW has posted. Ace has been hammering at GOPe betrayals for, what, a decade? He's just not been saying "woe is Ace" about it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 03, 2015 07:40 PM (AVEe1)

859 22,675 for me.

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 03, 2015 07:40 PM (2o6Wj)

860
I am 20,000 days old.
.........................
Jeeb. 18 (years old)x 365 = 6570 days. 20,000 - 6750 = 13,250 days. Average 3 sixpacks per week minimum.
That makes me approximately 34,000 beers old.
Nah, must have screwed that up somewhere.

Posted by: wth at March 03, 2015 07:41 PM (wAQA5)

861 If you're Republican there is no gain.
If you're Democrat there is no loss.

Posted by: Pol Pot at March 03, 2015 07:41 PM (iZADc)

862



NOOD.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:41 PM (CMkNk)

863 y-not

i think he's being sarcastic....but my meter is off today....either he's dead to me after insinuating i was a mouth breather which i can attest has never been the case unless i had a cold...../

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 03, 2015 07:41 PM (u8GsB)

864 I don't know why y'all are raggin on the know it alls.

We tried knowing nothing and that didn't work either, but I'm a little hazy on the details, cuz I really don't know all that much.

Posted by: No Nuthing Party Loyalists at March 03, 2015 07:41 PM (7q/rb)

865 The Article V, (once the SJW's find out what is happening), will take the Libs and Anarchists Off Their Freaking Nut.

Their "Make it Burn" philosophy will not be covered up by the MSM. Excused and apologized-for? ...certainly.

...people will see who the "wingnuts" are, however. They need to be reminded.

Think of it as "Sporadic Ficuses of Liberty".

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 03, 2015 07:41 PM (16bOT)

866 I'm almost certain the GOP was complicit in the IRS targeting of the Tea Party.

Infighting and concern over what might come out would certainly explain their lack of action and confused, stumbling attack. They're acting like they want to politically grandstand but not actually accomplish much.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 03, 2015 07:41 PM (39g3+)

867 Not a big fan of Huck's. Anyone that talks to God that much is going to tell you he knows what's best for you.



A one term, only two years, governor/Baptist preacher, is not getting my vote.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 03, 2015 07:42 PM (0FSuD)

868 Hipsters will be the death of all of us.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

As one descended from the Old 300, I look at Austin as a sacrifice zone.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 07:43 PM (1Y+hH)

869 boulder....yes...i'm slowly beginning to see that....he's still dead to me....mouthbreather, my ass

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 03, 2015 07:43 PM (u8GsB)

870 >>But unfortunately I think you wasted the electrons writing a letter to Boehner.



He clearly does not give a shit about what the voters want.


Not to mention the fact I've already been in the bag for the last 4 hours.
*hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at March 03, 2015 07:43 PM (sQzB6)

871 Yes, terrible idea.

You're both wrong.

Posted by: DaveA at March 03, 2015 07:43 PM (DL2i+)

872 Republican is just failing to spell Democrat correctly. A failure who can't win as a Democrat candidate so they run as a Republican. Just don't hid the fact anymore because no one is able to do anything about it anymore.

Posted by: OSTB at March 03, 2015 07:44 PM (ShdUd)

873
There is no need for the Republican Party.
California is doing great without it.
Look West, see you future.

Posted by: Pol Pot at March 03, 2015 07:44 PM (iZADc)

874 844 The existing constitution is been so utterly violated that I don't see much point in changing it. But if somebody wants to give it a try you got my support. Might wake up a few LIVs.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 03, 2015 07:37 PM (zauWW)
---
Agreed but I'd rather just fast forward to the bloody revolution part and get it over with before the ability to even remotely accomplish that is removed.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 03, 2015 07:45 PM (MbrzC)

875 You have to admit, 200 years for a Country is a good run, shit has gone done quite a bit since 1976.

Posted by: skip at March 03, 2015 07:46 PM (1mbRl)

876 " Former Senator Tom Coburn on Greta just now says he's working on an article 5 convention."

Fuck yeah.

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2015 07:25 PM (MYCIw)


All according to plan...

Posted by: George Soros at March 03, 2015 07:46 PM (0Ew3K)

877 Folks,
an Article V convention will lead to a constitution with the addition of FDRs "second bill of rights", and retain the original 9 amendments and leave everything else much more open ended (no enumerated powers).

Did I say 9 amendments? Yes, it's so weird that it skips from the 1st to the 3rd amendments like that... must have been an oversight.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 03, 2015 07:32 PM (AkOaV)


It'll look more like South Africa's super-Progressive Constitution

Posted by: Necklace time? at March 03, 2015 07:47 PM (0Ew3K)

878 No, it won't. You have no idea how the process works at all.

Besides, what do you think is going on NOW? Obama and the Dems have a Constitutional convention every fucking day all day.

Sheesh. Read Levin's book, m'kay?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 03, 2015 07:35 PM (CMkNk)


Levin is full of it.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 03, 2015 07:48 PM (0Ew3K)

879 Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1974.

Posted by: Pol Pot at March 03, 2015 07:48 PM (iZADc)

880 I've had minor dealings with Goldstein (PW). He's a couple of fleas short of a circus.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 03, 2015 07:49 PM (1Y+hH)

881 The Republican establishment was definitely complicit in the targeting of the Tea Party organizations. Why? Because they were a existential threat to their power. The Republican party hates the grassroots conservatives as much as the left does. If there is proof of this complicity is another matter entirely. We may never find it until we wander through the wreckage of the busted down offices just as the East Germans wandered through the Stasi headquarters after the wall fell.

Posted by: Miss Done at March 03, 2015 07:49 PM (2/oBD)

882 Madam Speaker

Posted by: LiveFromRussianHill at March 03, 2015 07:53 PM (DrY6f)

883 Whores, sorted (I didn't have newbies at hand)

Cook 2014 Sta CD PVI
60. Scalise  LA 1 R+26
56. Rogers (Ky.)  KY 5 R+25
10. Cole  OK 4 R+19
25. Granger  TX 12 R+19
63. Simpson  ID 2 R+17
40. McCarthy  CA 23 R+16
3. Boehner  OH 8 R+15
62. Shimkus  IL 15 R+14
8. Carter (Texas)  TX 31 R+12
41. McCaul  TX 10 R+11
42. McHenry  NC 10 R+11
61. Schock  IL 18 R+11
7. Calvert  CA 42 R+10
20. Ellmers (N.C.)  NC 2 R+10
48. Murphy (Pa.)  PA 18 R+10
49. Noem  SD AL R+10
50. Nunes  CA 22 R+10
73. Walden  OR 2 R+10
5. Brooks (Ind.)  IN 5 R+9
11. Collins (N.Y.)  NY 27 R+8
52. Pittenger  NC 9 R+8
67. Thompson (Pa.)  PA 5 R+8
68. Tiberi  OH 12 R+8
43. McMorris Rogers  WA 5 R+7
64. Smith (N.J.)  NJ 4 R+7
6. Buchanan  FL 16 R+6
23. Frelinghuysen  NJ 11 R+6
37. Lance  NJ 7 R+6
46. Miller (Mich.)  MI 10 R+6
1. Benishek  MI 1 R+5
18. Diaz-Balart  FL 25 R+5
58. Royce  CA 39 R+5
34. Kinzinger (Ill.)  IL 16 R+4
53. Pitts  PA 16 R+4
27. Hanna  NY 22 R+3
59. Ryan (Wis.)  WI 1 R+3
70. Turner  OH 10 R+3
17. Dent  PA 15 R+2
35. Kline  MN 2 R+2
45. Meehan  PA 7 R+2
51. Paulsen  MN 3 R+2
57. Ros-Lehtinen  FL 27 R+2
16. Denham  CA 10 R+1
22. Fitzpatrick  PA 8 R+1
33. King (N.Y.)  NY 2 R+1
55. Reichert  WA 8 R+1
71. Upton  MI 6 R+1
2. Bishop (Mich.) 
4. Bost 
12. Comstock 
13. Costello (Pa.) 
14. Curbelo (Fla.) 
19. Dold 
21. Emmer (Minn.) 
26. Guinta 
28. Hardy 
29. Heck (Nev.) 
30. Hurd (Texas) 
31. Jolly 
32. Katko 
36. Knight 
39. MacArthur 
44. McSally 
47. Moolenaar 
54. Poliquin 
65. Stefanik 
66. Stivers 
69. Trott 
74. Walters, Mimi 
75. Young (Ind.)
15. Davis, Rodney  IL 13 EVEN
72. Valadao  CA 21 D+2
9. Coffman  CO 6 D+1
24. Gibson  NY 19 D+1
38. LoBiondo  NJ 2 D+1

Posted by: Jean at March 03, 2015 08:29 PM (ztOda)

884 @63: "I'm done voting.



There is no political solution to tyranny."

You can easily vote yourself into slavery. You just can't vote yourself out of it.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 03, 2015 08:52 PM (amQXf)

885 9. Coffman CO 6

Hey - that's my reprehensible representative!

I've grown to despise this gutless wonder. Definitely a Boehner lieutenant.

Posted by: Lily at March 03, 2015 10:19 PM (dXCcK)

886 There is no GOP. Only Zool.

Posted by: major major major major at March 03, 2015 10:28 PM (C57zR)

887 Tom Coburn, I love you.

Posted by: PJ at March 03, 2015 10:33 PM (cHuNI)

888 Pretty sure I read Brat voted for this.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 03, 2015 07:29 PM (Y92Nd)

Dave Brat did not vote for DHS funding with the Senate amendment. He did yea vote to table the bill (vote 108 which would have killed it). He then voted nay on the bill when it was not tabled (vote 109).

He was also one of 52 who voted against Boehner's stupid three week bill and was one of only 26 Republicans (if I am remembering correctly) who voted against Boehner for speaker.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 03, 2015 11:03 PM (afouc)

889 Reichert and McMorris-Rogers in WA voted for it, the assholes....

Posted by: ChrisP at March 03, 2015 11:15 PM (Ib3Td)

890 I live in Portland, OR, a heavily Democratic town, and a leans Strongly Democratic state. I am going to retain my Republican registration, but only so I can vote for a Republican who is the full meal deal in the primary.

If that isn't on offer, then I will vote 3rd party or abstain. I am done with the likes of Boehner and McConnell. They are effectively the moderate wing of the Democratic party.

I will consider the likes of Scott Walker, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or Rick Perry. If one of them gets the 2016 nomination, and they burn me, I'll be completely done with the Republican party.

Enough is enough

Posted by: jbarntt at March 04, 2015 12:26 AM (mjiRr)

891 "Failure Theater," Or Why I Am Now a Democrat

Shouldn't we taking to the phones, streets and town halls insisting that our representatives fight these maggots instead of becoming them?

Ace, you are better than this. We only have one united states and patriots fight for it, not deliberately do it harm.

Posted by: DrewM still sucks at March 04, 2015 12:38 AM (EgbCN)

892 Drew

Taking to the phones? What we need to do is get organized. We need to be calling eachother and forming a coalition of pissed of pitchforkers that insists that our party start listening to us - that or we start a new party. those are the two choices: a) all out war on the likes of Peter King, Boehner, and McConnell, to purge the party, b) start a new party.

All of this may be too late, however. this administration is moving fast and pulling some stuff that is just bizarre. Does anyone recognize the country anymore? Does this feel like the USA? It sure doesn't to me! We have to get organized. There is no cavalry. We're it, guys.

Posted by: Miss Done at March 04, 2015 12:52 AM (2/oBD)

893 I agree Ace,It's time to stop funding and voting the GOP.They have betrayed us too many times.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at March 04, 2015 01:06 AM (41+Ra)

894 893 Wonder what's the average % of the funding GOP House and Senate candidates have been getting since 2008 from general campaign donations to the various establishment Republican groups, in particular the RNC, the Senate R cmte, the House R comte, the R Governors ass'n.

I'm not talking over all funds raised; just where endorsed candidates got their per cent of all raised funds directly paid to them, what part from party establishment sources and what part from other.

My guess: the post-millenium high water mark for paid directly by the party was in 2006, then the per cent went down over each successive bi-annual national election cycle. Comparing 2012 to 2014 might come out nearest the same, but still down. 2016 I expect will end up being the rock bottom low since 1974-6, and before that lower than in any cycle since 1962-4.

Because the sentiment being discussed here isn't off base; check the net.

Posted by: Wax the Gunter Flog at March 04, 2015 02:54 AM (lqeGC)

895 Mmmm, Savannah!

Prettiest city in the country, as far as I'm concerned.
Sand Gnats baseball at Grayson Stadium.
Tybee Island just a half hour away.
The Low Country. Just love it.
Angel's BBQ. THE BEST.
Yeah, there's SCAD, but they do their bit by helping keep it pretty.
Pirates, bitches. Pirate central.
Lots of good restaurants. Even some great ones.
Good walking.
Fantastic people watching. Sitting all afternoon in Chippewa Square is a revelation on humanity.
Weird, but not that forced, faux Austin weird. Savannah weird is natural, well aged and comfortable.
Open carry? How 'bout walking around with your favorite adult beverage? Hells yeah. Bar to bar wth go-cups.
I love Savannah.

Posted by: Chef Mojo at March 04, 2015 03:36 AM (4G5ek)

896 I'm leaning towards Ace's new opinion.....

Posted by: Draki at March 04, 2015 08:35 AM (3On8X)

897 Y'know, the problem I have with you Ace, and the rest of the blogosphere, is that Romney was THE ONLY candidate in the '12 primaries who was adamant about Everify, and stopping illegal immigration. Yet Palin supported Newt, Igraham loved her some Santorum, Rush bitched about "severely conservative", and don't get me started on Allahpundit. So if immigration was so damned near and dear to you, mebbe you all should have enthusiatically supported the one candidate in the past 30 years that was closed borders. Politicians respond to positive stimuli, and you dipshits hemmed and hawed about Romney and 4 million Mccain voters stayed home in 2012 and here we are. Well played, sirs. Well played

Posted by: scott at March 04, 2015 10:17 AM (7S1U8)

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