aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
CBD:
cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com
Not Your Normal Baseball Thread [BCochran]
So I had originally planned to do the final "Offseason Moves" post, and I still will, but something was brought to my attention and I wanted to write about it. The story was actually originally brought to my attention by my mother. Years of being forced to watch all levels of baseball eventually turned her into a rabid fan. Then another article, the one I'm going to respond to, was tossed at me via Moron, Hostage and all around good person @osoloco11. So you can thank, or blame, her for this post.
THE ORIGINAL STORY:
The US portion of the Little League World Series was won by an inner city team from the Southside of Chicago, Jackie Robinson West. They did so in dramatic fashion and it was a great story. Right up until it was discovered that they cheated. The team included players from outside the geographical region that that team was supposed to draw from. There"s been a lot of debate over this, but I'm pretty cut and dry on it. The rules were broken. It is indeed hard to watch the kids have that title stripped, but actions have consequences. Rules exist. You don't just get to break them because you feel like it. THE ARTICLE: Now on to what I want to respond to. There is a site where content is provided pretty much entirely by those directly involved in various sports. The Players' Tribune. That site posted an article written by standout Pittsburgh Pirates center fielder Andrew McCutchen. In that article, McCutchen writes about something sort of related to the "controversy". The plight of lower income kids in baseball. If you want to read the article in full, and I highly recommend you do, it’s here. I, as you might guess, disagree with his take and wish to respond. So here we go.Baseball used to be the sport where all you needed was a stick and a ball. It used to be a way out for poor kids.Uh...no, no it wasn't. I started playing baseball almost 30 years ago. I can't ever remember a time where there wasn't discussion on how hard it was to spread the sport of baseball. It takes a lot of players. You need a lot of space. And most importantly, it's expensive. It always has been. Bats have always been expensive and, especially when you're dealing with growing kids, have to be replaced regularly. Cleats are a constant expense. Gloves last a while, but are still not cheap. Then you get into helmets and balls and sign up fees and uniforms and...well, you get the point.
When you're a kid from a low-income family who has talent, how do you get recognized? Now, you have to pay thousands of dollars for the chance to be noticed in showcase tournaments in big cities.This is the crux of McCutchen's argument. That there is no other option other than expensive travel teams. That you can't get noticed, you can't get anywhere without these traveling teams. That's simply not true. Frankly, it's silly. I spent quite a lot of time in the sport. I have friends who are college coaches. I was a college asst at one point. I know folks who've been drafted and even one who made it all the way to the show. Guess what? They didn't get noticed at a traveling tourney. Players aren't found at tourneys where 12-15 year olds are playing. You know how you catch a college coach's attention? High school ball. That's where they see you. That's where they find you. If you're good, if you're good enough, you will be found. Maybe not by that big D1 program you think you should play for, but if you've got the talent, there's a place for you. And the same holds true for pro scouts. They see you in high school. They see you in college. That's where a very large portion of their scouting is done. McCutchen then spends some time going on about his personal experience and the hardship that low income families face in making decisions over where to spend their money and what they can afford to spend on sports. This isn't something that just applies to baseball. It's true across the board. Every sport costs money and typically, it costs quite a bit of it. He continues to put forward that these traveling teams, and remember that in this case we’re talking about 11 to 13 year olds, are the only way out for these kids. And that "When people talk about the Jackie Robinson West team and blame the adults who took in kids from outside the boundaries that the Little League organization set, remember that those adults may be saviors to those kids." Saviors. He wants us to think that these 11 to 13 year olds are worrying about earning a living, about clawing their way up a ladder, about providing for their families and that these adults who run the teams/organizations, that are picking up expenses and paying ways are the only option the kids. Maybe these adults are good people trying to help kids out. Maybe they’re sharks trying to get their hooks into a potential pay day. Maybe...maybe...maybe... What I do know is that while these traveling teams have become all the rage, they are not the only way to get noticed. They are not the only way to grab the attention of college and pro scouts. I never took part in these teams or tournaments. I played in a rec league. Spring and Winter. If I had a good season, I made the AllStar team in the Summer. When I got to 7th grade, I played for my school. Junior High, JV and then Varsity. Guess what? I got noticed. Originally by the small NAIA school that was my first choice, Flagler College, and then by a big time program, the University of Florida. I was offered athletic and academic money, spots on rosters. Ultimately I chose Flagler. And by my senior year, I got noticed by the scouts. (An injury cost me my junior year and I never regained the velocity that I previously had and that the scouts said I needed.) Once again, without playing on any other team than my college’s team. Do you know what gets you noticed? An extraordinary amount of God given talent and hard work. There's no other way. There's no magical shortcut. Talent. Hard work. One of the things that most annoys me about McCutchen's article is that even if you buy what he's selling, he offers absolutely nothing to solve the problem. There's not a single suggestion on what to do to give low income kids a chance to play ball. Yes, there is a problem with trying to get low income, especially urban, kids interested in the sport. Money. Bodies. Space. These things aren't new. These problems have been well documented. McClutchen doesn’t offer anything new to the argument, he simply rehashes old topics while applying them to a situation that has nothing to do with income.
Anyway, thanks for letting me blather on. There will, eventually, be that final post on offseason moves.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 06:39 PM (m4MJN)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 22, 2015 06:39 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Brian Williams at February 22, 2015 06:40 PM (gwG9s)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2015 06:41 PM (YrXgo)
Mulder was born in 1977, so it's been a while.
Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 06:46 PM (m4MJN)
Posted by: Yip at February 22, 2015 06:48 PM (84SRe)
But the kids were Black, rules don't apply.. Get with the program here.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 06:49 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 06:50 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2015 06:51 PM (go5uR)
have to follow any rules.
Lotsa "special" groups out there.
Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 06:53 PM (m4MJN)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 06:54 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: NCAA Womens Softball at February 22, 2015 06:54 PM (gwG9s)
talent and hard work. There's no other way. There's no magical shortcut.
Talent. Hard work.<<<
I'm not a huge baseball fan, but how about this kid, Pat Venditte? This guy has a special talent. Let's hope he can refine and develop it for the majors.
Posted by: Fritz at February 22, 2015 06:54 PM (dVmLD)
But of course, it would've been funnier if it was written as an Abbott & Costello Baseball routine.
Seriously though? That's why I didn't participate in any youth sports. Just too damn poor. Coaches from several sports in H.S. ended up getting rather pissed at me for "not going out for the team", as I could tear it up during regular P.E. class.
Ever know a 5'10", 155 lb. kid who could max out the leg-press on the Universal Gym? Had quickness, too.
But, the realities of life intervened. Accelerated credits at school, so I could get out at 1 pm every day, and then off to work till 11 pm.
Kept the rent paid, and some food on the table.
Wouldn't trade what I'd learned on the job(s) though. It's served me well, lo these many years.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 22, 2015 06:55 PM (RzZOc)
At taxpayer expense.
Why yes there is a mayoral election on Tuesday.
Why do you ask ?
Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 06:56 PM (m4MJN)
Wife is watching with baited breath. She has no idea who our mayor is. She does know both our US Senators, personally, so she has that going for her.
(Mayor is a democrat)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 06:58 PM (0FSuD)
For the first time ever, I'm creating a couple of fantasy teams on mlb.com. I've only really started watching baseball again the last couple of years, so I'm not going at this hardcore, just to make the games a bit more interesting.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at February 22, 2015 07:00 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2015 07:00 PM (YrXgo)
Pretty damn good marketing.
Wonder why book publishers don't make up some fake award and have a show?
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:02 PM (0FSuD)
I can't ever remember a time where there wasn't discussion on how hard it was to spread the sport of baseball. It takes a lot of players. You need a lot of space. And most importantly, it's expensive. It always has been. Bats have always been expensive and, especially when you're dealing with growing kids, have to be replaced regularly. Cleats are a constant expense. Gloves last a while, but are still not cheap. Then you get into helmets and balls and sign up fees and uniforms and...well, you get the point.
It depends on what kind of baseball we're talking about. I know you were a college scholarship player and the air is rarified up there.
When I was a kid -- and you will be pleased to be getting off my lawn -- baseball was not expensive and it's what every American boy did. Your parents bought you a glove at six, and maybe you needed a new one at eleven. It cost $20 maybe for a little league season. Bats were made out of trees, not double-walled steel-carbon composite so of course every kid had a bat.
You played in the back yards of kids who didn't have a lot of trees in their yard. It's just what American boyhood was.
Now because either God hates me or the world has changed I raised two boys to young adulthood who have never enjoyed a game of baseball. If they were suspected of being German spies and asked to explain the infield fly rule they'd both be shot on sight.
But I in my advanced middle age play on a coed beer drinking softball team and feel 14 years old when I do.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 07:02 PM (1xUj/)
Yeah, I'm sick and tired of hearing whining about poor people this and poor people that.
Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2015 07:02 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:03 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Vincenzo Vegonzo at February 22, 2015 07:04 PM (KGN7Y)
http://tinyurl.com/8nwcb
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:06 PM (0FSuD)
I often wonder how I became a strictly "pull" hitter.
Old habits and all.
Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 07:06 PM (m4MJN)
Posted by: bergerbilder at February 22, 2015 07:08 PM (2o6Wj)
Posted by: Oscar 2015 at February 22, 2015 07:08 PM (gwG9s)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:09 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:09 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 07:10 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:10 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Vincenzo Vegonzo at February 22, 2015 07:10 PM (KGN7Y)
It's freezing in LA! Should result in red carpet nipple hardage.
I read an article in the New Yorker, or maybe it was the Atlantic...no, now I remember, it was in microfiche copies of the 1930s Vanity Fair...
that said pics like that might show up on the nip slip dot com or taxi driver movie dot com.
It was totally in someplace intellectual. Maybe the rebooted New York Times Magazine.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 07:11 PM (1xUj/)
Baseball has boomed in the SEC last 20 years. Plenty of space in small southern towns for baseball, but the black kids there showed the same declining interest in baseball as the black kids in Chicago. And that's because the NBA became such a huge cultural force in the lives of black America.
And that happened because blacks started totally dominating the NBA.
Elite baseball talent seems more evenly distributed among the world's ethnic groups. Which is why MLB is the only major sport with demographics that roughly mirror America. No other major American sport routinely has elite asian superstars, for example.
Black % in MLB is only a few percentage points below the black % in America anyway.
Meanwhile whites, asians, and hispancs are all massively underrepresented in the NBA with blacks 5x overrepresented.
Yet there are never any articles about the NBA's shameful lack of white, hispanic, or asian players.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 07:12 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:12 PM (0FSuD)
He was quite disappointed. Nonetheless, he turned down a free ride at Alabama (that I know of, there may have been others) and signed with the Braves farm system. Long story short, he never made it past AA ball. Just could not hit major league pitching. I think his best season was just over the Mendoza Line at .250 or there abouts.
Somehow the scouts could see that despite his stellar track record in HS.
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 07:13 PM (rwI+c)
As a HS Senior, he was all conference right fielder, and these are big high schools, too. Terrific player.
Know what? His Dad had pushed him all along (and they were Indian fans too). And by the time he finished his Senior year at HS, hated baseball.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....in the bleak midwinter at February 22, 2015 07:14 PM (+1T7c)
The State is Mother. The State is Father.
Posted by: @votermom at February 22, 2015 07:14 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2015 07:15 PM (go5uR)
I use to work with NASCAR. I knew Dick, he was a nice midwestern fellow.
I've had several friends that were in such constant pain they just said fuck it.
Had a great employee who beat cancer, then it came back.
He discussed it with his shotgun. Sad.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:16 PM (0FSuD)
I miss those days.
Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at February 22, 2015 07:16 PM (RJJYz)
Shitty thing, but that's the deal.
I have a kid who plays ball on a full ride to a div1 school, and BCochran is right. Nothing makes up for hard work. The first thing a college coach asks a high school coach about a prospective player is "how is his/her work ethic?" Next thing they ask is how are their grades.
I laugh at people who tell me "You know I could have been a pro if it were not for X"
The truth is that almost no one can fathom the amount of work required to play a professional sport.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at February 22, 2015 07:18 PM (VNgld)
In fairness to the post, though, basketball is much cheaper. All you need is a ball, a basket, and just about any number of people. With an odd number you can sub in or play horse or 33.
Posted by: A pot of message at February 22, 2015 07:18 PM (kk2ap)
The truth is that almost no one can fathom the amount of work required to play a professional sport.
True dat. Baseball players earn their money. The farm teams play like 90 games a year. Ridiculous.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:19 PM (0FSuD)
Since everything but the NFL is a niche sport in America, almost any other sport ends up with more haters than fans.
I watched Daytona earlier. And have UFC on now. Some roided up Brazilian chick is on my TV right now. Yikes.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 07:20 PM (ZPrif)
This. While playing in Little League now will run you into money, remember that most mlb players up until the '60's or so came from extremely poor backgrounds. Baseball was their way of escaping the mines and the farms and the factories. I don't think Babe Ruth in the orphanage or Roy Campanella in a Philly slum were getting new gloves and spikes on a regular basis.
I saw a documentary this summer on baseball in the Dominican Republic. Those kids are trying to bat themselves off the island. They're running the bases in bare feet and using branches as bats and making balls with tape. Uniforms? Hell, they don't own gloves. And yet they're making it all the way to the Show.
I agree that in the case of the Jackie Robinson kids that rules are rules and should not be bent just because the kids are poor and black. And I think Robinson himself would agree with that - he never wanted special treatment for black players, he just wanted them to be treated the same as everyone else. It's a safe guess that Sharpton would make Robinson puke.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 07:21 PM (+XMAD)
One of the things that most annoys me about McCutchen's article is that even if you buy what he's selling, he offers absolutely nothing to solve the problem. There's not a single suggestion on what to do to give low income kids a chance to play ball.
When I managed a group of engineers, I ran into an issue where these engineers would come to my office with a problem, but without a solution. I posted a notice on my door that stated, if you haven't come with two solutions, don't knock. It is easy to throw a problem over the wall. coming up with solutions is hard.
Travel ball and the "hope" that it provides is a joke. You cannot tell anything about a kid at 12 years old. I was the best 12 year old in my county in NY. But i topped out at 5'8" and that doesn't get you many scholarship offers. But we had plenty of college scouts at our games. They will find you if you are good enough. Playing on all star teams is not a requirement.
Posted by: RKinRoanoke at February 22, 2015 07:22 PM (b0n8A)
...their shit didn't ever stink;
...they already knew everything;
...if anybody ever asked them to do something they didn't want to do, it was time to move on.
Interscholastic sports are getting to be just as bad. The best players, especially "minority" ones, just move to wherever some booster offers their family the best deal.
Posted by: Cranky old coach at February 22, 2015 07:22 PM (T9V22)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:22 PM (0FSuD)
Somehow any black from the Caribbean- or Central or South America should not be considered black.
the mind reels.
Yeah I said black, cuz African American can be implied for both North and South America.
Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 07:22 PM (m4MJN)
I saw Allen Iverson play in high school. Man among boys.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 07:24 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Vincenzo Vegonzo at February 22, 2015 07:24 PM (KGN7Y)
And kids seem to find football just fine. That's a sport that is very expensive and requires organized play to properly develop the skills.
The space thing is an issue but so is general interest in the sport. Baseball's declining in popularity and if there's an open field, kids will play soccer or football. Or nothing at all.
Baseball's the game you play in the vacant lot when parents aren't watching your every move.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2015 07:25 PM (b4b5c)
Posted by: RioBravo at February 22, 2015 07:26 PM (z27Ny)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 07:27 PM (+XMAD)
Somehow any black from the Caribbean- or Central or South America should not be considered black.
the mind reels.
Eh. It's an in-group thing. I share a house with a negro American. He says David Ortiz is not black, he's Hispanic.
I say "he'sdarker than you". He says he's not black. It's not about skin color, it's about history and experience. American blacks come up through a different set of experiences.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 07:27 PM (1xUj/)
By the time you get to middle school and high school there's a field at the school, the school supplies all the equipment you need, and practices are super convenient.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 07:28 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: CNN Idiots at February 22, 2015 07:29 PM (0FSuD)
It's not about skin color, it's about history and experience. American
blacks come up through a different set of experiences.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 07:27 PM (1xUj/)
So Colin Powell, not Black?
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:30 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Vincenzo Vegonzo at February 22, 2015 07:30 PM (KGN7Y)
Jonah Goldberg has a theory about this. He says his own interest in baseball began from playing catch with his dad. It used to be something fathers routinely did with their sons. Basketball is something you pick up from your peers, but baseball is passed on from fathers to sons.
Not many baby daddies are playing catch with their kids in the inner cities these days.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 07:31 PM (+XMAD)
If growing up poor, being from a broken home and being discriminated because of your skin color are those "experiences" I know a lot of pasty faced "blacks".
Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 07:32 PM (m4MJN)
Football and basketball are relatively simple in concept, but as you move up (grow older) the level of work and basic athleticism is very demanding. Or in basketball, height too.
Anybody can "play" basketball, but to be good,l you have to be tall. There is no replacement for tall.
Likewise football. My youngest son played pony league, bronco league, middle school football, high school football. Eventually he got hurt and had to quit, but would have gotten outsized soon enough - high school would have been the end.
Baseball is hard to play because you either need gunslinger reflexes to hit and field, or an arm that can throw thunderbolts every 4th or 5th day. Guys And work insanely hard to be in shape and drill, drill, drill.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....in the bleak midwinter at February 22, 2015 07:34 PM (+1T7c)
Baseball has a weird white guilt thing about the black % since they used to not let blacks play. But that was 70 years ago now. We forgive you baseball. It's ok, you're not a racist.
Jackie Robinson broke the color line in 1947. Nobody is stopping blacks from playing baseball. It's just that the best black athletes in America tend to choose to focus on other sports at a young age, cause they think they'll have an advantage there.
Meanwhile, athletic 6'5 white guys moved away from basketball 30 years ago and towards being baseball pitchers, quarterbacks and tight ends.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 07:34 PM (ZPrif)
Remember, in baseball, a 30% success rate at a central task makes you nigh-godlike.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at February 22, 2015 07:35 PM (hMx4x)
Sorry for the O/T.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 07:36 PM (FsuaD)
Know your market!
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:38 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Vincenzo Vegonzo at February 22, 2015 07:38 PM (KGN7Y)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at February 22, 2015 07:35 PM (hMx4x)
When you have a ball coming at you at 95 mph and have a quarter of a second to decide if you should swing or not - I'm amazed anybody can hit the damned thing.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 07:38 PM (+XMAD)
LPGA is actually dominated by asians -- mostly Koreans. Several asians have done well in the PGA as well, most notably the dominant asian Tiger Woods.
NBA and NFL have one or two. Well, NFL has a bunch of Samoans, so i should clarify I mean more east asian. Samoans and australasians are an entirely different racial group.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 07:39 PM (ZPrif)
That and baseball is boring.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 07:39 PM (R5HRU)
It is not a 'way out', it is way for them to have fun playing a great game.
So yes I agree.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 22, 2015 07:39 PM (WNERA)
Umpire tossed a ball (I can't remember which famous Braves player it was, but the ball is here somewhere) to little D'oh, which husband caught and handed to toddler D'oh.
D'oh Boy did what he was taught to do in t-ball, and threw the ball back to the umpire.
Heh. This was on the Jumbotron. The crowd laughed, the umpire laughed, and HANDED the ball to my husband to keep.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 07:39 PM (FsuaD)
Hello?
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:41 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 07:41 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 07:41 PM (1xUj/)
I always admired their patience. I couldn't do it.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:42 PM (0FSuD)
I haz a sad.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2015 07:00 PM (YrXgo)
Is there a periodontist in the house?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 07:42 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:44 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 07:39 PM (FsuaD)
Now that's a cute story.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 07:41 PM (R5HRU)
Sadly, I wasn't there that night. I was on the verge of the flu, and husband had a client in town. I'm still sad I didn't get to experience the hilarity myself.
Son doesn't even remember it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 07:44 PM (FsuaD)
Is there a default time? Even F1 races have a time limit.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 22, 2015 07:45 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 22, 2015 07:47 PM (WNERA)
Coaching can be absolutely rewarding. It can also be mind bending. It usually fluctuates in between both.
I coach basketball and love it, then other days I wanna wring the kids necks.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 07:47 PM (R5HRU)
There's a blurb here: http://tinyurl.com/kxnl778
Spokane has him pitching in relief. Here's where he closed out a no-hitter last fall: http://tinyurl.com/mv6r3p4
Posted by: Country Singer at February 22, 2015 07:48 PM (nL0sw)
The top few stars on each team will be famous in the metro they play, but often unknown nationwide.
NBA is very good at creating stars. It's the structure of the game. A great player can dominate in basketball more than any other team sport. So the best players end up in the championship games.
MLB and NHL that's much less true. A lot more randomness. Often great players never win a title. Or even get a chance to play for one.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 07:48 PM (ZPrif)
She was a tiny, cute, always put-together lovely little thing.
And boy, did she enjoy her sports on TV. It was the one thing my husband and son shared with her that I just couldn't.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 07:49 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 22, 2015 07:47 PM (WNERA)
I've only sold one, ever. All the rest I've kept.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 07:49 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Cranky old coach at February 22, 2015 07:49 PM (T9V22)
Posted by: Osoloco at February 22, 2015 07:51 PM (9kGho)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 07:39 PM (R5HRU)
For those with the attention spans of fireflies.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 07:52 PM (+XMAD)
The truth is, baseball is expensive and rough to set up. That's why soccer is so popular around the world: all you need is a field and a ball. Period. Football is expensive and rough to set up and takes even more gear.
But there's enough money to make it happen if the teams and players want to be less greedy. If they really care. If they want to help. Honestly I don't give a crap what color or race the players are as long as the play is good and the players are good guys. But they pretend they care so much about the inner city and black kids playing ball and on and on. So put your money where your mouth is.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 07:53 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Osoloco at February 22, 2015 07:51 PM (9kGho)
Thank ye kindly.
I never would have seen it if it wasn't for you, so thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2015 07:53 PM (GEICT)
I had a Browning 12 ga with a side shell loader. You could have the plug in and shot all you wanted by simply inserting another shell.
Weird gun. I have gotten the stock wet and it had been so dry the stock swelled up. Should have kept the gun and replaced the stock. Never seen one since.
I also miss my dad's Fox that was stolen by some meth heads.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:54 PM (0FSuD)
It's just way too slow. If the MLB ever enacts rule changes that speeds up the game then it could be much more palatable.
I don't think it has to do with attention span to be honest, hell soccer is constantly in motion and I find that to be much more boring than baseball.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 07:54 PM (R5HRU)
Black kids and asian kids are totally different.
Blacks are the poorest group in America, Asians are the richest.
And "minority" varies from city to city, with many whites growing up as the "minority".
America used to be basically a bi-racial society, white and black. But that was a long time ago. Since the 1968 immigration changes that has changed.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 07:55 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 07:56 PM (0FSuD)
Excruciatingly. The average length of a MLB baseball game is about three hours, with absolutely nothing happening for about 2 hours and 50 minutes of it.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 07:57 PM (mx5oN)
Some games have run 3:30 - 3:45. Ridiculous.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 07:59 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 08:00 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 07:59 PM (R5HRU)
Some last until the next day. I really like baseball. You on the other hand are not required to like what I like.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 22, 2015 08:01 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:01 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Hegemony Cricket at February 22, 2015 08:02 PM (jDR5W)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:02 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:02 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 22, 2015 08:03 PM (WNERA)
That diet isn't working honey. She looks to weigh in at about 250. The only ass in America wider than Mooch's. Two ways.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:03 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 07:59 PM (R5HRU)
You do realize that football games constantly run in excess of 3 hours and the the amount of time in which an actual play is happening is minuscule...right?
You claim that nothing is happening most of the time. That's absurd. There are in the neighborhood of 300 pitches thrown every game and things are happening during every pitch.
That you don't like the game is fine, everyone has different interests and likes, but your claims are just simply not true.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 22, 2015 08:03 PM (GEICT)
Well, no argument there. I recently read a book called "One Summer, America 1927" and it had a chapter about Ruth and baseball then and the author noted that complete games in the 1920's were about an hour and a half long. They simply didn't dick around at the plate or on the mound the way they do now.
I went to a Brewers-Cubs game this summer and Edwin Jackson was pitching. I don't find baseball boring but even I got impatient because he took so damed long between pitches. I was like, geez, what's he doing standing there? Thinking about dinner? The meaning of life? There's some chick named Front Row Amy who attends all the Brewers home games, wears low-cut tops and sits behind home plate - is he looking at her boobs?
And on the batter's side, all the stepping in and out of the batter's box, fiddling with gloves, etc. is annoying. I wish mlb would address that crap.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 08:06 PM (+XMAD)
Bummer. I just know that I'll develop a case of serious seller's remorse later, so I don't get rid of them. The one I did part with was a favor to a longtime friend who didn't have a lot of cash on hand.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 08:06 PM (mx5oN)
Enjoying baseball means understanding what's going on, same as any sport - except soccer which is mostly just participation in the collective and a cultural thing. As in "I like futbol, cafe Americanos, and whole wheat bread with garlic aoli"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:06 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 22, 2015 08:07 PM (/pOl7)
The getting noticed thing at tournies, etc, not so much.
But the advantage of being able to play baseball all year long with travel ball is very real, especially if you're from an area that gets severe winters. I think they did some sort of study about players/colleges in warm climates producing more MLB players, and the theory was that they literally got more playing time. Do I think this is a huge advantage? Hell no, but I think it has more to do with making the majors than getting noticed at a tourney when you're 12 years old.
I think the lack of daddies playing catch with their little ones is also an issue...but part of the problem is also that baseball just ain't as sexy to most young inner city boys as basketball and football.
And MLB loves those "other" African Americans because they have better attitudes and they can get 'em cheap.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:07 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Sandra Flook at February 22, 2015 08:07 PM (Dwehj)
*Fistbump*
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:01 PM (rwI+c)
Right on.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 08:07 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Rocky Balboa on the baseball diamond at February 22, 2015 08:08 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:08 PM (rwI+c)
Insomniac said "nothing happens".
I know there is a ton of shit that goes on in between non-action plays. I just find it extremely plodding. As far as your take on football, yep I've seen that stat that during a 3 hour football there's like 15-20 minutes of actual play. Again I prefer the physical way more athletic sports than a sport such as baseball. It doesn't mean it's a bad sport, I just find it boring is all, no more no less.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:08 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 22, 2015 08:08 PM (WNERA)
Right. Last gun I ever lent anyone.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:08 PM (0FSuD)
But for pure love of baseball the best experience is your local minor league team. There's probably one nearby you. Great food, great community, and a wonderful, relaxing time out in the sun.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:09 PM (39g3+)
Right. Last gun I ever lent anyone.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:08 PM (0FSuD)
That rat bastard!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 08:10 PM (mx5oN)
I equate that like some people equate WRs making routine catches and going bat shit crazy.
I could rock a hour fifteen minute game, definitely.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:10 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:10 PM (rwI+c)
Now, I will help a guy out and buy his guns, if the prices are reasonable.
Two of my lawyer buddies almost went broke two years ago. I picked up A LOT of guns. Some I will never shot. Stupid stuff like a rifle with three different barrels.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:10 PM (0FSuD)
Tammy you hit it on the head. It's not as sexy as it once was. Baseball is no longer Americas past time.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:11 PM (R5HRU)
I don't have to know the teams.
There's a local minor league team that I go to see a game or two a year when it's a nice day. it's a good, cheap family activity.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 08:11 PM (ZPrif)
I say "he'sdarker than you". He says he's not black. It's not about skin color, it's about history and experience. American blacks come up through a different set of experiences.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 07:27 PM (1xUj/)
So why in the hell did blacks vote for Obama? He has absolutely nothing in common with them.
Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2015 08:11 PM (sdi6R)
True Dat! Minor league ball is usually pretty wild with lots of fun promos, etc. Not nearly as stuffy as the pro version.
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 22, 2015 08:12 PM (/pOl7)
Is it a Rossi? Center fire, rimfire and shotgun barrels, right?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 08:13 PM (mx5oN)
Cheap? Hot damn I wish it was.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:13 PM (R5HRU)
Basketball and football represent easy ways out, quicker paydays.
Inner city blacks can't or won't wait. Which suit the latinos just fine.
Posted by: Trump at February 22, 2015 08:14 PM (mctSY)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:14 PM (R5HRU)
There's a thing I didn't get about baseball until I had to explain it to a foreigner. Baseball is so situational, when a pitcher goes from a 3-1 count to 3-2 everything changes.
In my first real job I worked for a NYC law firm with a German-American practice. The Germans would send us "referendars", interns, who had to do this stint as part of their schooling. I would befriend them.
So it's 1986 and the (spit) Mets (whom I otherwise love) are playing my beloved Red Sox in the World Series. And I have my pet Kraut over to watch all the games. And it's the first time I realize how ridiculously absurd the rules are. You do this, unless that has happened, in which case this is the rule.
I mean seriously. Imagine you've grown up in a world where sports means "we try to kick it into that net, they try to kick it into this net". Then explain "the third strike is an out, unless you tip the ball and the catcher drops it, then you get to try to run to first".
Baseball is pretty wacky.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 08:14 PM (1xUj/)
I say "he'sdarker than you". He says he's not black. It's not about skin color, it's about history and experience. American blacks come up through a different set of experiences.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 07:27 PM (1xUj/)
So why in the hell did blacks vote for Obama? He has absolutely nothing in common with them.
Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2015 08:11 PM (sdi6R)
Pretty evident the blacks enjoy the democratic plantation.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 08:14 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: obama at February 22, 2015 08:15 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:15 PM (R5HRU)
Americans don't play football, ever, unless they're specifically on a team. Hardly anyone even throws the pigskin around with their kids any more. NFL is very likely America's most popular sport (NASCAR has more viewers and butts in the stands but racing isn't a sport) but its not the passtime of anyone but players.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:15 PM (39g3+)
The equivalent of a football defensive huddle takes place often.
It's non verbal, usually hand signals.
When you see outfielders shifting before a pitch, can tell you what pitch is going to be thrown and where in the strike zone (if that) Tendencies !
On the offensive side, watch first base and especially third base coaches. Information is being sent, sometimes reacting to defensive shifts.
It's a 3D chess game, most people don't notice it or don't care.
Like the Wrigley Field crowd, let's drink and ogle, and google, and text. Oh did the Cubs lose ?
Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 08:15 PM (m4MJN)
MLB has several programs like that. Not real sure how well they do, though. And many players do donate time and funds for new fields, equipment, etc. I'd say moreso than any other sport. It's something players' wives also get involved with.
Also, finding room for a new park or even a baseball diamond in established areas in not easy, especially in the inner city areas of places like NYC, LA, etc. where the need is the greatest.
Upkeep is a huge issue... the freaking schools in CA where I lived, nice areas, not ghettos, didn't have so much as a blade of grass on the playgrounds. All asphalt and that rubbery stuff under playground equipment.
So plenty of basketball hoops/courts, but no baseball or football. That has to make a difference in shaping kids' preferences, too.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:16 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 08:16 PM (+XMAD)
A Scottish man was at a baseball game.
It was the first time he had ever seen the sport so he sat quietly. The first batter approached the plate, took a few swings and then hit a double. Everyone was on their feet screaming "Run, Run."
This happened two more times, with a single and a triple. The Scottish man was now excited and ready to get into the game.
The next batter came up and four balls went by. The umpire called "walk" and the batter started on a slow trot to first. The Scottish man, extremely excited now, stood up and screamed, "R-R-Run man, rrrun!"
Everyone around him started laughing. So the Scottish, extremely embarrassed, sat back down. A friendly fan, seeing the Scottish man's embarrassment, leaned over and said, "He can't run -- he got four balls."
The Scottish man stood up and screamed, "Walk with pride, man... walk with pride!"
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:16 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 08:16 PM (mx5oN)
absolutely correct (at least for my daughter's sport, field hockey). we are asked to support other players (not named) and we do, as a club. It's not hidden, it's plain as day and we're happy to do it.
girls sports (for now) have a very high ROI for parents. but I have no illustions about that continuing (it can't). my daughter just loves to play and hates the bench
The LLWS story bugged me specifically for the "bringing in ringers" aspect. Having seen that in action on some travel/club/tourney teams it HURTS the legal-boundaries players who get bumped for ringers, and poisons the entire environment. It was wrong and I'm very glad the LL punished them for it. Everyone (including ALL the kids) knew what was going on. I'd bet they were messing with ages too, that team.
Posted by: BlackOrchidPhotobomb at February 22, 2015 08:17 PM (pS66t)
We need to integrate hockey. Too many short white men.with no teeth
Posted by: obama at February 22, 2015 08:15 PM (WNERA)
FIFY
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:17 PM (0FSuD)
You HAVE to go. Seriously, it is soooo much fun. Even for you commies who think baseball is boring!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:17 PM (37e3g)
1) no designated hitter
2) One interleague series a year per team, period
3) If the batter AT ANY TIME IN ANY COUNT tips the ball into the catcher's mitt, its an out.
Oh, and I'd get rid of instant replay, and burn the equipment, and kick the guy who came up with it in the furry mangerines.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:18 PM (39g3+)
Sure. Basketball is cheap and easy to play. There are public courts everywhere and the only equipment you need is a single basketball. That's it.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 08:18 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Barry O'Doubleday at February 22, 2015 08:18 PM (Dwehj)
I WS on the board of the local Little League for 6 years. Half our geography was upper middle class the other half poor. Couldn't get the rich dads to coach (but they definitely would contribute financially) and the poor kids for the most part didn't have dads. We made sure every kid was welcome and fees would be paid. But as a league getting enough coaches was very difficult
Posted by: Sunny at February 22, 2015 08:19 PM (BHRUO)
If there is less than two outs *and* first base is open.
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:19 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Insomniac
-------------------
Lighting..., at midnight.
Posted by: Bill Cliton at February 22, 2015 08:19 PM (l1zOH)
The mens is too damned tall and skinny, too. Baseball players have the perfect build.
Or so I have been told, because of course I never notice such things.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:20 PM (37e3g)
Most successful women's sports let the women look pretty and feminine. They're still athletes in tennis and gymnastics and figure skating.
Tennis is the most-watched, highest paying annual female sport -- no accident it lets them wear skirts and show some style and fashion.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 08:20 PM (ZPrif)
Anyone wanna see me throw like a girl again?
Posted by: Barry O'Doubleday at February 22, 2015 08:18 PM (Dwehj)
Yeah, throw that thing up here and I'll give it to you again.
Posted by: Reggie, the butt fucker at February 22, 2015 08:20 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:21 PM (39g3+)
If those Hollywood 'tards try to reboot Forbidden Planet, well I hope the Monster of the ID turns all of them into goo.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 22, 2015 08:21 PM (PHI4f)
Hearing them scream like they're being murdered every time they hit the ball is a little unnerving, though.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 08:21 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 08:21 PM (ZPrif)
Sadly, the last Braves game we attended, we brought D'oh Boy's deceptive girl friend. It was Marine Corps Night, and she was all over the boy. In front of us. I'm talking taking selfies, kissing, groping...and this was her.
The next day, she attended my MIL's 90th b-day, clinging like a monkey to the D'oh Boy.
And then a week later, told him via text, she wasn't interested anymore.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 08:22 PM (FsuaD)
In part it's not successful because the talent gap between mens and womens basketball is miles apart.
I will say in womens basketball they move the ball around much more in a team ball concept.
Few teams in the NBA have that, the Spurs and Hawks come to mind as good examples.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:22 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Insomniac
-----------------------------
Coming soon..., to golf.
I mean..., it would follow, no?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at February 22, 2015 08:23 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:23 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 22, 2015 08:24 PM (wzBnV)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 22, 2015 08:24 PM (WNERA)
Yep. And when you think back to when baseball WAS the most wildly popular sport by far, basketball and football weren't near as big as they are now.
I can see why folks like basketball, although I hate it, because it's constant action. Young kids now are even more inclined to like nonstop action because of video games.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:24 PM (37e3g)
But it's a global sport with interest worldwide. And that means TV viewers and money.
Women's tennis has a huge advantage that they play the the big events the same weekend as the Men. So they both are at Wimbledon at once.
LPGA doesn't get to play alongside the big male stars to build fan interest.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (ZPrif)
Act Of Valor coming on CBS in a minute - I forget who to thank for the heads up, but "thanks"
Posted by: shredded chi at February 22, 2015 08:24 PM (wzBnV)
Thank you to whoever!!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (FsuaD)
Monica Seles didn't sound like she was being murdered so much. Unless you mean "la petite mort."
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (39g3+)
Not sure if it's that I don't believe in God right now or just don't want to.
Posted by: AD at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (pXB1a)
136 Posted by: Trump at February 22, 2015 08:14 PM (mctSY)
Easy ways out? LOL. Just no.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:15 PM (R5HRU)
------ you can go from the hood to a free year or two of college before you leave to cash in in basketball and football.
In two years in baseball you can leave college and still need to ride the bus for at least 2 years.
So yeah......easy. Mlb drafts a high school kid today he's in the system 5 years grinding away for his shot
Posted by: Trump at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (mctSY)
Then you would see their dicks.
I kid, I kid.
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (rwI+c)
Got a pizza stone we were talking about in food thread
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:26 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 08:26 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 08:22 PM (FsuaD)
In the long run, he'll thank her!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 22, 2015 08:26 PM (ftVQq)
I picked the wrong month to stop drinking
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:26 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:27 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:27 PM (39g3+)
The more you know about baseball, the more exciting it gets. The team at bat is down 2 runs in the 6 inning, they have the bases loaded with 2 outs but the pitcher's coming up to bat and he's not a good hitter. However, he's settled down and is pitching a gem after a rough first inning. Do you let him hit or do you take him out of the game and use a pinch hitter? (Scenarios like that are why I like the NL.)
"Like the Wrigley Field crowd, let's drink and ogle, and google, and text. Oh did the Cubs lose ?"
Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 08:15 PM (m4MJN)
To be fair, being a Cubs fan at a Cubs game and actually paying attention can be deeply depressing (although that might change this season.)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 08:27 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: obama
---------------
It's not an issue of win or lose, it's an issue of fairness.
Posted by: Barky at February 22, 2015 08:27 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 22, 2015 08:26 PM (ftVQq)
Yep. He's already heard from friends that she "regrets" the breakup.
Son will never take her back.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 08:27 PM (FsuaD)
Okay, I've got a tough one for you: The past five minutes of these Oscars or the Super Bowl halftime show?
Posted by: AD at February 22, 2015 08:28 PM (pXB1a)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 22, 2015 08:28 PM (WNERA)
Then explain "the third strike is an out, unless you tip the ball and the catcher drops it, then you get to try to run to first".
If there is less than two outs *and* first base is open.
Exactly! And if baseball is just the pond you grew up in you have no idea until you have to make it make sense to somebody from the non-baseball world.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 08:28 PM (1xUj/)
Then you would see their dicks.
I kid, I kid.
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (rwI+c)
Jock straps would keep them from flopping around
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 08:28 PM (hcfn1)
Figure skating does a nice business of touring arena ice shows in between Olympics. Only the gold medalists get rich-rich, but they can make a decent living on the touring shows.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 08:28 PM (ZPrif)
I picked the wrong month to stop drinking
Posted by: Nip
-----------------
9:00, zombie slaughter.
Posted by: Barky at February 22, 2015 08:29 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:29 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015
The tuck rule
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 08:29 PM (hcfn1)
Women's beach volleyball seems like the kind of thing ppl would watch. But they don't. Everybody thinks everybody else would watch it. it gets a good bit of pub every Olympics.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 08:30 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Trump at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (mctSY)
Making 5000 a year, if he's very very lucky.
Not pretty. At all. God bless each and everyone of them.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:31 PM (37e3g)
And smoke a bowl, apparently. Last time I was at Wrigley it reeked of pot.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:31 PM (39g3+)
LOL. That's assuming they're good enough to get there FIRST.
Mind you there is no minor league system for the NFL - college aside - MLB and NBA does.
In fact there's a lot of discussion in expanding the NBDL so that these youngsters coming have somewhere to go to refine their skills just like in the MLB. The NFL is discussing a similar thing as well. Which would then equate to the MLB grind session. As it stands now NBA youngsters take the same amount of years to get "it" as MLB prospects do. Same for some NFL players.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:31 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:32 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Barky at February 22, 2015 08:27 PM (l1zOH)
Everyone gets a Stanley Cup! Because, fairness and middle class
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:33 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:33 PM (39g3+)
Nobody actually wants to watch beach volleyball, they just want to see
those tan, fit girls in those ridiculously tight teeny shorts. The play
is irrelevant, volleyball is pretty dull to watch.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:32 PM (39g3+)
What you are saying is that it's pole dancing with a net?
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:34 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:34 PM (R5HRU)
Most of them do. (Not Prince Fielder, but fat players are more the exception than the rule.) And because their uniforms aren't padded you get a good look at their builds. *Fans herself again*
"Or so I have been told, because of course I never notice such things."
Ha! It was fun having you on the WS thread, precisely 'cause you and I notice certain things about those players that Cochran doesn't
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:20 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 08:34 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Trump at February 22, 2015 08:25 PM (mctSY)
Making 5000 a year, if he's very very lucky.
Not pretty. At all. God bless each and everyone of them.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:31 PM (37e3g)
-----And the shot may never come. Prospects lose their status all the time, other players can surpass them. Basketball and football you can get a payday at least before you flame out.
Posted by: Trump at February 22, 2015 08:34 PM (mctSY)
In 1924 the members of the Montreal Canadiens were on their way to a celebration party after their Stanley Cup win.
The car carrying the cup got a flat tire and was pulled to the side of the road for repairs. The passengers took the cup and left it on the side of the road. They went to their party, but when it was time to drink champagne out of the cup, they realized it was missing.
They went back to retrieve it, it was exactly where they had left it.
How do you forget the Stanley Cup, especially when your going to be drinking out of it?"
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:34 PM (rwI+c)
Contracts aren't guaranteed in NFL. Not sure how minor league contracts work for the MLB.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:35 PM (R5HRU)
Bikinis are great. 6'2 girls with no breasts in a bikini -- not as fun. Elite vball chicks tend to be built like tall, skinny boys.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 08:36 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: scott at February 22, 2015 08:36 PM (2JSDI)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:34 PM (rwI+c)
I'll take drunk for $1,000, Alex.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:36 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 08:37 PM (hcfn1)
Because you were drinking already
I have an unrelated question now: why on earth is Emma Watson making speeches on transgendered people and getting so much love for it? I mean that's what... 1% of 1% of 1% of the population, and only in the absolute riches parts of the world? This is like giving an impassioned speech on not picking on dorks who play paladins in D&D. Who gives a rat's patootie? What about the real horrors of the world like little girls being used as an explosive by IS?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:37 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:37 PM (rwI+c)
Contracts aren't guaranteed in NFL. Not sure how minor league contracts work for the MLB.
--- correct NFL isn't guaranteed but odds still better for pay than mlb
Posted by: Trump at February 22, 2015 08:38 PM (mctSY)
Posted by: Oscar 2015 at February 22, 2015 08:38 PM (gwG9s)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:39 PM (39g3+)
I have an unrelated question now: why on earth is Emma Watson making speeches on transgendered people and getting so much love for it? I mean that's what... 1% of 1% of 1% of the population, and only in the absolute riches parts of the world? This is like giving an impassioned speech on not picking on dorks who play paladins in D&D. Who gives a rat's patootie? What about the real horrors of the world like little girls being used as an explosive by IS?
-----It's the hot fad. Next year she'll be onto something else. #bringbackourgirls
Posted by: Trump at February 22, 2015 08:40 PM (mctSY)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 08:40 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: He Hate Me at February 22, 2015 08:40 PM (gwG9s)
Posted by: TV Tonight at February 22, 2015 08:41 PM (OVx7B)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:41 PM (rwI+c)
I did like the rush to the ball. However, with the whole concussion scare that would be nixed. Hearing the coaches call plays would probably need some editing one would imagine.
Trump - again, if you make it. There's a ton of guys who never make it and outside of the practice squad and a few start ups that pay like MLB minor leagues there isn't much else.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:41 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:41 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: fairweatherbill bucking the wind at February 22, 2015 08:41 PM (efn6Q)
Posted by: TV Tonight at February 22, 2015 08:42 PM (OVx7B)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:42 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Trump at February 22, 2015 08:34 PM (mctSY)
But if you make it - jeez, I'm floored by what they make in mlb these days.
The 1950's Dodgers went back to working construction jobs, sales jobs, office jobs after they retired from baseball. One of the best players, Carl Furillo, worked on the World Trade Center. Try to imagine Derek Jeter showing up with his WS rings and sitting in the cubicle next to yours.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 08:43 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:44 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February
The dogs would be pissed
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 08:45 PM (hcfn1)
In the 1950s, they were working those jobs in the off season just to pay the bills.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:45 PM (39g3+)
The USFL didn't seem to prove that.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 22, 2015 08:45 PM (BBBoi)
Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 22, 2015 08:46 PM (i7JE3)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:47 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 22, 2015 08:47 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:48 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 22, 2015 08:49 PM (/pOl7)
You're welcome.
Saw it at the movies, and there was silence as everyone walked out at the end.
The acting was pretty good for rookies.
The voice part? kinda wooden in spots.
But, glad to see the turnout that I did at the theater.
Enjoy.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2015 08:49 PM (YrXgo)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:50 PM (0FSuD)
The 1950's Dodgers went back to working construction jobs, sales jobs, office jobs after they retired from baseball. One of the best players, Carl Furillo, worked on the World Trade Center. Try to imagine Derek Jeter showing up with his WS rings and sitting in the cubicle next to yours.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 08:43 PM (+XMAD)
I remember hearing that the Pittsburgh Pirates' Richie Hebner worked as a gravedigger in the off season. And that was in the 1970s.
Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2015 08:50 PM (sdi6R)
I'm hitting the skid.
Too much snow shoveling, and snow blowing.
See you all on the flip side.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2015 08:51 PM (YrXgo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 08:51 PM (FsuaD)
(He had to borrow a really heavy duty jacket to wear.)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 08:53 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:53 PM (39g3+)
Are you assholes watching the Oscars?
Shame!
*reaches for cat-o-nine-tails*
So. You're rooting for 50 Shades?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 08:53 PM (1xUj/)
Rugby is growing some. The Olympics help. USA Rugby is grabbing college football players who aren't quite good enough for the NFL, especially guys who have the speed, but not quite NFL size.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 08:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 08:54 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 08:53 PM (1xUj/)
Ummm. No. There are certain members of the Horde, however....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 08:55 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:56 PM (rwI+c)
Its over with in a hurry but nothing is happening in the game for almost the entire time. There's a reason soccer fans are singing and waving flags and rioting, because the pitch is dull as drying paint.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:56 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 08:56 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2015 08:57 PM (YrXgo)
They were there to be seen, the game was a reason to party and look for hook ups.
And don't give me that " Well, the teams are so bad, what else can you do"
I've been a White Sox fan forever, and they have their fair share of suckage. (bammy ain't a real fan)
That never happened at Comiskey/US Cellular til they started winning.
Mostly Cub fans.
Posted by: seamrog at February 22, 2015 08:57 PM (m4MJN)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 08:57 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 22, 2015 08:57 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Osoloco at February 22, 2015 08:58 PM (9kGho)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro,VT at February 22, 2015 08:58 PM (D5iCY)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 22, 2015 08:58 PM (YrXgo)
What did the five fingers say to the face...
**bam**
I'm Rick Grimes, bitch.
Posted by: Rick Grimes at February 22, 2015 08:59 PM (OVx7B)
and boom goes the dynamite.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 08:34 PM (R5HRU)
Oh dear, what have I said now??
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 08:59 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:59 PM (39g3+)
I never heard of them, til I bought one. They can shot both 556 and 223.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:00 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 09:00 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Kreplach at February 22, 2015 09:00 PM (DDFkt)
Posted by: Barack Obama at February 22, 2015 09:01 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 09:01 PM (rwI+c)
The woman has witnessed things on video that even we haven't seen, and she's cool and collected.
She's amazing. I also feel for her. The nightmares.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:01 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: USA at February 22, 2015 09:01 PM (tfM+W)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 09:02 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:02 PM (FsuaD)
A damn bunch of them. And yet, I am giving an M4 to a friend in the spring. I have it. He needs it. It's the Christian thing top do. So sue me. Or put me in a camp. If a dead guy in a camp is worth anything.
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2015 09:02 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 09:02 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 08:27 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, but last year the team with the most passing and actual plays won the championship, and they have the winningest record over the last 15 years in all of pro sports. We laugh at our Spurs sometimes-- hey guys SOMEONE has to take the shot. They love to pass.
Posted by: stace at February 22, 2015 09:02 PM (ImzkZ)
And I go through stages with Lacrosse; one of my brothers played and I really like it, but I never seem to think to look for it on the TV.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:03 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Enby at February 22, 2015 09:03 PM (QP2lF)
Posted by: Tom Cruise at February 22, 2015 09:03 PM (gwG9s)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 08:53 PM (FsuaD)
Where in Iowa, Jane?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 22, 2015 09:03 PM (aNzsD)
I technically like soccer every four years because of the World Cup, but I don't always admit it.
I was in Rome in 2006 when Italy won it. It was a great feeling to be so wrapped up in it. Everyone knew which game was next and who was playing whom and all that.
But when Italians would ask me if I understood soccer I'd say, "yes, it's like ice hockey except without the excitement".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 22, 2015 09:03 PM (1xUj/)
The Oscars??? Seriously???
Jeebus.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:03 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Kreplach at February 22, 2015 09:04 PM (DDFkt)
Oh Jesus Christ this speech by Nicole Kidman and the heavy from serenity is pathetic.
Posted by: Kreplach at February 22, 2015 09:00 PM (DDFkt)
This is your brain. This is your brain dead. Turn off the Oscars
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:04 PM (0FSuD)
That was... perfect. I bow to this.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 22, 2015 09:04 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 22, 2015 09:03 PM (aNzsD)
*kicks self* Cedar Rapids???
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:05 PM (FsuaD)
Its the aluminum bats *tink!* I could hit a fastball with one of those. You can tip it off the knob at the base of the bat and get a triple.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 09:05 PM (39g3+)
Hockey is OUTSTANDING. I get ALL fired up watching a game live.
Going to see a game with Vendette is on my Bucket List.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:05 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 09:05 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February
Soccer makes baseball look exciting
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:06 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:06 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:06 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:07 PM (0FSuD)
Seconding this. The bats drive me insane, but college ball is so awesome. I was a Diamond Doll/Darling/Angel at every freaking university I went to.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:07 PM (37e3g)
Going to see a game with Vendette is on my Bucket List.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:05 PM (37e3g)
Better cheer for them Oilers
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:07 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Tom Cruise at February 22, 2015 09:07 PM (gwG9s)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 09:08 PM (rwI+c)
Some asshole thought I was a dwarf on GoT!
Posted by: Tom Cruise at February 22, 2015 09:07 PM (gwG9s)
I know the feeling
Posted by: Jeff Gordon, "Rainbow warrior" at February 22, 2015 09:08 PM (0FSuD)
*kicks self* Cedar Rapids???
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:05 PM (FsuaD)
AKA "The City of Five Smells" (actually, the motto is "City of Five Seasons", but anyone who has spent any time there knows that the "Smells" one is closer to reality.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 22, 2015 09:08 PM (aNzsD)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 22, 2015 09:08 PM (4gN5w)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 09:08 PM (ZPrif)
I honestly believe Hollywood hates the film. But they can't deny the numbers going to see the film.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:09 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:09 PM (0FSuD)
Hah nothing, you just told that one guy to fuck off. Didn't even bother to get into a discussion.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 09:09 PM (R5HRU)
http://instantrimshot.com/
And no this isn't a porn site or something.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 22, 2015 09:09 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 09:10 PM (rwI+c)
Holy shit. I can not believe he would be shooting 50 cal. The noise and recoil would be too much
http://tinyurl.com/7dgy83
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:11 PM (0FSuD)
I honestly believe Hollywood hates the film. But they can't deny the numbers going to see the film.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:09 PM (FsuaD)
Hollywood does hate it. Numbers don't mean shit to them. It's all about arts & farts
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:11 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 22, 2015 09:12 PM (ucDmr)
yeah, sorry C&P accident. .338L
Posted by: toby928(C) mutters at February 22, 2015 09:12 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: stace at February 22, 2015 09:12 PM (ImzkZ)
Michael Moore will have a grabber, and demand to be flown to Havana, Cuba, to have the "Best Healthcare Anywhere."
And sadly, after arriving in Cuba, he's not recognized as a Cuban citizen.
*end scene*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:13 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:14 PM (0FSuD)
It's all about the "statement".
votes are not based on how good a film is, but what the voter wants others to think that they think is good.
CA is layers upon layers of deception, starting with the most venal type - self deception.
Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 22, 2015 09:14 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2015 09:14 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: stace at February 22, 2015 09:16 PM (ImzkZ)
300 I wouldn't watch the Oscars to save my life. Eff those clowns and everything they stand for. Look at me. I can do make believe shit really good.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 22, 2015 09:12 PM (ucDmr)
I've never watched them
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:16 PM (hcfn1)
Not going to work tomorrow. Ice overnight, and ice all day tomorrow. Even if it is navigable in the morning, I'm not risking getting stuck at work in my RWD sports car, so I'll call the boss in the morning.
Now, another drink...
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:16 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:19 PM (hcfn1)
Oh, that asshole. I wish I'd seen it sooner.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:19 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:20 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:20 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 22, 2015 09:20 PM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 22, 2015 09:21 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:21 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 22, 2015 09:22 PM (Y92Nd)
Hey DG! How's was the soup?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 22, 2015 09:21 PM (60Vyp)
Awesome. If you like beef n barley, look up Barefoot Contessa's soup recipe. Though, she calls for oxtails, I cut up a chuck roast and used that instead and added mushrooms and it came out wonderfully.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:22 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 22, 2015 09:22 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 22, 2015 09:23 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 09:24 PM (lHHyw)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:21 PM (KuU4f
Well you are DangerGirl
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:24 PM (hcfn1)
College baseball games are a blast.
Ah, too bad we can't all get in the time machine and go back to watch Cochran throwing his curveball.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 09:24 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 22, 2015 09:26 PM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 09:27 PM (lHHyw)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:27 PM (KuU4f)
That is pretty interesting.
Posted by: Kreplach at February 22, 2015 09:27 PM (DDFkt)
Oh Glenn Campbell...what a sad, sad story. Alzheimer's is a royal bitch.
I thought he was a drunk?
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:28 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Bad News Bears at February 22, 2015 09:29 PM (pIhxB)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 22, 2015 09:29 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 22, 2015 09:29 PM (TJCSB)
Nope.
We're watching... you.
Posted by: Aaron, with a parabolic mic in the car at February 22, 2015 09:30 PM (OVx7B)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:28 PM (0FSuD)
He has Alzheimer's.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:31 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:31 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 22, 2015 09:32 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 22, 2015 09:32 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at February 22, 2015 09:32 PM (pIhxB)
It's usually the single most popular non-NFL annual TV show. In Olympic years the opening ceremony will beat it.
Awards shows do good ratings. That's why there are so many. And the Oscars do the best of all awards shows.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 09:32 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 09:27 PM (lHHyw)
Aaarrrrrgh. *shambles* *shuffles*
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 09:32 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 22, 2015 09:33 PM (TJCSB)
He looked really really bad.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:33 PM (0FSuD)
Heh.
So....another cannibal community? I haven't read the graphic novels.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 09:33 PM (lHHyw)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February
My Mom had it. She wasn't a party animal.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:33 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 22, 2015 09:32 PM (ZPrif)
The 52% LIVs. Not surprised
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:34 PM (0FSuD)
Costco has excellent oxtails for a reasonable price....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 09:34 PM (Zu3d9)
He looked really really bad.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22
Think you're off Nip,
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:35 PM (hcfn1)
He looked really really bad.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:33 PM (0FSuD)
Maybe you're thinking of Randy Travis.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:35 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 22, 2015 09:35 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 09:34 PM (Zu3d9)
Yes, but you don't get deliciously lovely wonderful cubes of luscious, melty beef.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:36 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 09:36 PM (lHHyw)
Well, I guess we know now why the new guy was so clean and well put together...
Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 22, 2015 09:36 PM (KH1sk)
Sort of the inverse of Stalin in the 1930s, when the apparatchiks were afraid to be seen as the first to stop applauding.
Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2015 09:36 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2015 09:36 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 22, 2015 09:37 PM (ucDmr)
I occasionally tried to remember to watch the Joan Rivres show that came on a few days (?) later where they went in depth with what everyone had worn, and I kind of liked that, but I seldom remembered. I think I saw it twice.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:37 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 22, 2015 09:38 PM (KH1sk)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 09:38 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 09:38 PM (R5HRU)
The other brother Darryl.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 22, 2015 09:39 PM (W5DcG)
---
Nope. First guy-on-guy kiss. Not Daryl.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 22, 2015 09:39 PM (KH1sk)
It used to be glamorous, but now?
Shock factor indeed!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 09:39 PM (Zu3d9)
Don't tell me Daryl died?
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 09:38 PM (R5HRU)
No, he didn't.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 09:39 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Kreplach at February 22, 2015 09:39 PM (DDFkt)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Sorry, but at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (yxw0r)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (mx5oN)
Pics of most of the dresses and funny commentary. They're *mostly* non-political, but there's the typical PC fawning over people like Laverne Cox (which can easily be ignored).
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (lHHyw)
Posted by: Kreplach at February 22, 2015 09:39 PM
Well, they had to give it something.
Posted by: otho at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: puddleglum at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (20X6f)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 22, 2015 09:37 PM (ucDmr)
He's a piece of shoe leather
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (hcfn1)
Hah, really.
Oh well. I HAVE to assume it was in the comics, they've been somewhat faithful to them.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 09:41 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Sorry, but at February 22, 2015 09:40 PM (yxw0r)
No....but it shouldn't make one an object of derision either.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 09:41 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Sheryl Crow at February 22, 2015 09:42 PM (pIhxB)
Shock factor indeed!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 09:39 PM (Zu3d9)
Right??? It's so sad. There can't be any thing beautiful and lovely any more, it has to be all edgy and shocking and needlessly titillating.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:42 PM (37e3g)
Why? Why should I have to roll with it? Narwals swimming in the ocean don't mean I have to swim in that ocean. No sir.
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2015 09:42 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 22, 2015 09:42 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:42 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 09:43 PM (lHHyw)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:43 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 09:43 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:43 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:42 PM
heheheh eh heheh... you said "tit"... heheheheh
Posted by: beavis at February 22, 2015 09:43 PM (tBSrv)
I'll bet there is a significant correlation between outrageous dress and dysfunctional personality.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 09:43 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 09:43 PM (lHHyw)
They'd lose massive amounts of viewers immediately.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 22, 2015 09:44 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 22, 2015 09:44 PM (b6koZ)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 22, 2015 09:45 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Kreplach at February 22, 2015 09:45 PM (DDFkt)
Yeah, all those other films had sucky sound editing so I hated them. What the hell is Oscar-worthy sound editing?
Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2015 09:45 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 09:41 PM (Zu3d9)
All I did was ask if he was a drunk, that's not derisive. It's a question, the answer was yes he was a drunk. My memory was not incorrect only the time he was a drunk and you will note in my post I said "I think it was a year ago"
Not that it was a year ago. Lighten up here, he looks awful in that pic.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:46 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:42 PM (37e3g)
That's my big complaint with contemporary art. Do you have to know how to actually draw anything? No, if a guy takes a picture of his dick or spray paints "Free Palestine!" or some such shit on a wall, he's an artist.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 09:46 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:46 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:46 PM (37e3g)
389 American Sniper won for sound editing
Yeah, all those other films had sucky sound editing so I hated them. What the hell is Oscar-worthy sound editing?
Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2015 09:45 PM (FcR7P)
It's a bone.
Did you hear anything? Dialog? Gun shots?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:46 PM (hcfn1)
NOT
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:47 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:48 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:46 PM (0FSuD)
1. I wasn't referring to your comment.
2. Since you want to push it...watch your race-baiting.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 09:48 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:48 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:22 PM (KuU4f)
Recently I made a bean and spinach soup, and threw in a leftover ham bone. The results were very good, even better than the last time when I just added the ham. Although you get a lot of collagen out of a chuck roast, the additional richness and thickness that will come from the marrow of an actual oxtail or two is worth the extra effort. You may have already experimented with this, but if not I'd give it a try.
Posted by: CQD at February 22, 2015 09:48 PM (2dzsA)
Something that doesn't give you a headache, I guess. So Interstellar was out.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo is still angry at Christopher Nolan at February 22, 2015 09:48 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 22, 2015 09:48 PM (Zu3d9)
Did I call Campbell black? WTF?
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:48 PM (0FSuD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbZHIoaapmE
Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2015 09:49 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 22, 2015 09:48 PM (hcfn1)
FIFY
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 22, 2015 09:49 PM (0FSuD)
in a leftover ham bone. The results were very good, even better than the
last time when I just added the ham. Although you get a lot of collagen
out of a chuck roast, the additional richness and thickness that will
come from the marrow of an actual oxtail or two is worth the extra
effort. You may have already experimented with this, but if not I'd give
it a try.
Posted by: CQD at February 22, 2015 09:48 PM (2dzsA)
I have made it with beef bones before (and adding beef stew meet) and they may have made this soup better, but holy heck it was pretty freaking good. Homemade beef stock makes a huge difference.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:50 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:51 PM (KuU4f)
THIS! I mean, I freely admit, I am not an art person by any stretch of the imagination on any level, and I think a lot of extremely artistic people are a little whacked anyway, but some of this bullshit is just straight up psychosis.
I mean, the chick who "paints" with her menstrual blood as it is literally dripping from her? How is she not under a 5150 lock up?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:51 PM (37e3g)
heheheh eh heheh...
Posted by: beavis at February 22, 2015 09:52 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 09:52 PM (lHHyw)
Come on now, girlfriend, remember where you are.....another drink is not just needed, it's MANDATORY!!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:54 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:54 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:58 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 09:54 PM (37e3g)
Considering that and the fact that there is supposed to be ice on the ground on the morning, you're probably right. Although if it doesn't ice over, I'm going to be in huge trouble.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:58 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 09:50 PM (KuU4f)
Agreed. I always use chuck roast in place of stew meat (at least the stuff that they cut up and sell as stew meat at the market), because it stands up much better to stewing/braising and does not dry out.
What cuts do you use to make your beef stock, by the way? I'm always looking for new (in reality, I mean less expensive) alternatives.
Great soups, together with frittatas, are on the short list of dish categories that I wonder why I don't make more, because they're always so darned good when I get organized and make one.
Posted by: CQD at February 22, 2015 09:59 PM (2dzsA)
Posted by: Toothless Geezer at February 22, 2015 10:00 PM (R1Htd)
Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 22, 2015 10:02 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, stealin when I should've been buying at February 22, 2015 10:02 PM (hcfn1)
Here, they tend to put beef ribs on sale on occasion for like $1.99/lb. I'll grab those with some veg and roast them. Then in the soup itself, I'll cut up a chuck roast (2-3 buck a pound on sale) and that gives nice flavor. If you don't have homemade, I've found that Swanson's beef stock in the paper box (not the broth, the stock) can make a decent sub if you put plenty of veg in your soup.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 10:03 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: boiling frog at February 22, 2015 09:55 PM
Brass. Heavy guage. Can't use the glass ones. Can use steel in a pinch, but brass is preferred.
Posted by: otho at February 22, 2015 10:03 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 10:04 PM (KuU4f)
I told her to start with soups - you can double the recipes easily and freeze portions, you don't have to stick to a rigid recipe, and once you get everything in the pot, your work is usually done. You can let it simmer and make the place smell heavenly.
But I made soups for years before I made homemade stock instead of using canned broth. Goodness, does that make a difference.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 10:06 PM (+XMAD)
Tryna become a well rounded man. Since I think I'd like to marry this girl I'm with.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:07 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:08 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:10 PM (37e3g)
*puffs chest out*
I put them in my homemade - read: borrowed idea from the internet - guacamole.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:11 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:12 PM (37e3g)
A man who cooks is always appreciated!
Yeah, stick to the simple stuff for a while - soups, roast chicken, baked fish, tomato sauces....I got too ambitious too early and tried to make elaborate meals and just ended up ruining food.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 10:12 PM (+XMAD)
Are you sure this lady deserves you??
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:13 PM (37e3g)
Hell I'm geeked I buy the pre-prepped frozen chicken breasts and cook them things in the oven.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:13 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 22, 2015 10:13 PM (BBBoi)
Posted by: Juston Leesun at February 22, 2015 10:14 PM (X+yHO)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 10:12 PM (+XMAD)
Oh I don't believe you ruined anything!
But I do know that when I try and get too elaborate, and I am SICK of looking at the food by the time I'm done and end up making myself a sammie .
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:15 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 22, 2015 10:15 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at February 22, 2015 10:15 PM (1brdf)
Well considering my family business for all intents and purposes has shut down so I'm making about 30% less than I was - which wasn't much to begin with - and she still has my back and supports me while I look for a part time job, or full time if the job is right, yeah I'd say I think she does. I'm not 100% certain but I'm getting closer for sure.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:15 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: t-bird at February 22, 2015 10:15 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 10:16 PM (+XMAD)
As a single guy, I'd like to recommend your niece also tries plenty of fruit and vegetables. She should also get a good rice cooker. You can make a huge amount, cut up a few vegetables on top of a plate of rice, microwave it and you have easy meals for days.
There was something called a Turbo Cooker I bought which was also great - large but great. Toss water into the bottom, you can put frozen fish on top, and it steams it to perfection in about 20 minutes.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at February 22, 2015 10:16 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 10:03 PM (KuU4f)
I should have known that, but sometimes it takes someone else telling me before I connect the dots. I see beef ribs on sale all the time, but always think to myself "I don't have any ideas for that". Next time that happens, I'm picking up a pack (or two) just to make beef stock. This is one of those times I'm glad I have a big stand-alone freezer.
Heck, when turkeys are on sale I buy extras for pretty much that reason. Although in that case it's roasting first, and then stock for soups. Ribollita, in particular, benefits from a turkey stock base (even though the Italians haven't invented turkey yet).
Posted by: CQD at February 22, 2015 10:17 PM (2dzsA)
Maybe in the 90's you had a point, but that's largely not true anymore. The NBA went to great lengths to change it's image.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:17 PM (R5HRU)
Which is why you need to stick with soup for awhile.
You can make soup out of any damn thing.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:18 PM (37e3g)
What I always thought was that most modern artists look at the old masters' work, realize they have no hope in hell of ever even coming close to that level of talent, so they turn their noses up at it and then decide to do something more at their talent level, like spatter paint on a canvas and then roll condoms in it or whatever the current mode is these days.
It is sad that the newest piece of "Art" that I liked was that picture the guy snapped of the fistfight in the Ukrainian parliament.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 22, 2015 10:19 PM (wt/Oq)
Never leave a burner or a pan untended, no matter what.
Never cook on high unless you are right on top of it
always brown meat before putting it in a stew or a crock-pot
depend on your memory for making rice, and doing mechanical things like making scrambled eggs, use written instructions for everything else.
I love poached eggs, but everytime I make them they come out egg-drop soup. Very sad.
Today I braised them in oil and water: 2 tablespoons of water and a splash of oil in a pan, bring it to a boil, crack two eggs in, cover and allow to cook covered at a low simmer for a minute, baste a little with the hot water, cover back up and allow to steam. Poached eggs in under 2 minutes, so you better have your toast ready and buttered.
Eggs are supposed to be wonderful poached in milk, but I never tried.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2015 10:19 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 10:20 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....in the bleak midwinter at February 22, 2015 10:21 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 22, 2015 10:13 PM (BBBoi)
Well, I know you're thinking, did he fire 32 rounds or 33, and to tell you in all the excitement I kind of lost track myself, so you need to ask yourself...do I feel lucky? Well, do ya?
Posted by: CQD at February 22, 2015 10:21 PM (2dzsA)
Beef doesn't worry me because I've had steak tar tar which is essentially raw.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:22 PM (R5HRU)
That is all fine and well, it truly is, but you can make guacamole. Don't sell yourself cheap!
You know I am just joshin' and wish you much joy. I love weddings and am a big proponent of gettin' hitched.
My inlaws are shutting down ther construction company, too, or at least cutting back to where my BIL is a one man operation.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:22 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:24 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 22, 2015 10:24 PM (4j4+f)
Yes, you don't want gray meat!
However, is it just me, or does anybody else find that that crock pot meals taste a bit - flat? I love the convenience of the crock pot, but it seems like nothing I make in it ever tastes as good as stuff cooked in the oven or on the stovetop.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 10:25 PM (+XMAD)
Haha, I know you are I appreciate it.
Sorry to hear about your in-laws business. Shits tough out here Tammy. This economic climate absolutely blows.
If you ain't big business, you're fucked.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:25 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Dire Hats at February 22, 2015 10:26 PM (0Ew3K)
I love finding new recipes, though I lean more toward baking over cooking, and also, simplicity. So I like having a bunch of proven winner recipes when I just want a good meal without a big production. Roast chicken definitely, and also meatloaf, lasagna, several kinds of pancakes (never use mix), etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 22, 2015 10:26 PM (lHHyw)
That's a good cuisine to start with getting your feet wet learning to cook.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:26 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at February 22, 2015 10:27 PM (1brdf)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February
Pork loin,& sauerkraut in a slow cooker rocks
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, stealin when I should've been buying at February 22, 2015 10:27 PM (hcfn1)
The Yellow Rose of Texas
http://tinyurl.com/m5adexm
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....in the bleak midwinter at February 22, 2015 10:21 PM (+1T7c)
Hey, wait...that's MY song.
Posted by: Emily Dickinson at February 22, 2015 10:27 PM (yxw0r)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 22, 2015 10:28 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 22, 2015 10:29 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:12 PM (37e3g)
Interesting.....
Posted by: Sigmund Freud at February 22, 2015 10:30 PM (yxw0r)
Yeah we do. I'll def look into it too.
Ceviche seems interesting.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:31 PM (R5HRU)
What I always thought was that most modern artists look at the old masters' work, realize they have no hope in hell of ever even coming close to that level of talent, so they turn their noses up at it and then decide to do something more at their talent level, like spatter paint on a canvas and then roll condoms in it or whatever the current mode is these days.
It is sad that the newest piece of "Art" that I liked was that picture the guy snapped of the fistfight in the Ukrainian parliament.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 22, 2015 10:19 PM (wt/Oq)
I saw how one artist would take old books and cut them into Sculptures, his work was incredible. Google BOOKS AS LANDSCAPES
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 22, 2015 10:32 PM (b6koZ)
Get a meat thermometer so you can see what the internal temp of pork is. If you jab the leg of the chicken with a knife and the juice runs clear, it's done, since the legs take the longest to cook.
Cooking time for fish: 10 minutes for every inch of thickness, measured at the thickest part.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 10:33 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:33 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 22, 2015 10:35 PM (R5HRU)
You can make the flavor more complex with cracked wheat or oatmeal, but it takes longer to cook right.
You can also slow-cook beans and split peas and carrots and broth to make a killer bean soup.
Other things like soups and stews and roasts and pseudo-pulled pork I use a pressure cooker for. Don't cook wheat or barley in the pressure cooker it tends to foam.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2015 10:38 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 10:25 PM (+XMAD)
Amen. sister. The flavors all kind of run together, especially is you have onions in it. I get a similar effect from microwaving leftovers.
I like to use it for one thing like Chipotle chicken, or some other meat, which I in turn then use in something else.
Although Thor does love pork roast in the crockpot. I just put onions and carrots in it, no onion, though.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:39 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 22, 2015 10:25 PM (+XMAD)
Amen. sister. The flavors all kind of run together, especially is you have onions in it. I get a similar effect from microwaving leftovers.
I like to use it for one thing like Chipotle chicken, or some other meat, which I in turn then use in something else.
Although Thor does love pork roast in the crockpot. I just put onions and carrots in it, no onion, though.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 22, 2015 10:39 PM (37e3g)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 22, 2015 10:24 PM (4j4+f)
Heh. I think that guy was in four Dirty Harry movies.
Posted by: CQD at February 22, 2015 10:42 PM (2dzsA)
I've been on both sides of the fences at those, held some business cards from scouts, but out of the 2-300 players that show up, it seems only 4 or 5 shine.
One time a friend who played with Bo Jackson in Memphis was back trying out, a pitcher, and he told the hitter he was crowding the plate, the kid didn't do anything, he pitched right at his head. Then did it again .... then the kid backed off. That's the difference, my friend played AA ball, and that kid wasn't anywhere near ready for the minors just the presence was the 'it' factor for him to be noticed. Of course back then it didn't hurt to throw 89 on the gun the whole time.
Posted by: doug at February 22, 2015 11:18 PM (IYEs/)
Posted by: robschr at February 22, 2015 11:38 PM (esPeP)
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2015 03:14 AM (wlDny)
Posted by: Vic at February 23, 2015 07:31 AM (wlDny)
Also note that I said "field", not "diamond". As in "the field my neighbor across the street owned." Home plate and first base were rocks that were mostly buried under the ground but had a flat spot that was at ground level. Second and third base was someone's coat. It got pretty interesting sliding into home.
All age levels played. When I was a sixth grader I was facing fastballs from a high-school kid - with not 100% control .... No helmets, no mouth guards, no cleats, etc., etc. For that matter, no coaches and no parents. We decided where we played, when we played, who was on what team, and if there was a dispute over a call we settled it, we didn't have some adult telling us what to do. A game for poor kids. But we learned.
Posted by: RonF at February 23, 2015 10:45 AM (l8nW6)
So now the kids get taught how to play ball, but they don't learn how to organize a bunch of their buddies to play a game, make decisions on what has to be done and who's going to do it, resolve disputes, etc. etc. All they know how to do is to do what mommy or the coach tells them to do. And it shows. When I was a Boy Scout the Panther Patrol would go off in a corner and bang out the menus and the duty roster for a campout in 10 minutes. Now the kids can't do it in 1/2 an hour because they just don't have the experience. I can tell them what to do - but they can't do it themselves, even after I try to teach them. And the parents are surprised that I expect them to!
Posted by: RonF at February 23, 2015 10:51 AM (l8nW6)
A 12-year old kid will not be discovered playing baseball in Little League. He'll get discovered in high school, it's true.
BUT
When they get to H.S., the kid who's been playing travelling team since he's been 12 is going to wipe the field with the kid who's only played ball recreationally or in Phys. Ed. THAT'S what's making baseball a "rich kid" (really, middle class) sport.
Posted by: RonF at February 23, 2015 11:16 AM (l8nW6)
Posted by: brian mckim at February 23, 2015 11:22 AM (32N+1)
Processing 0.08, elapsed 0.0869 seconds.
14 queries taking 0.0248 seconds, 485 records returned.
Page size 254 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.
Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement
Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)