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After the Snowstorm That Could Destroy New York Drops Less Than a Foot on the City, Weathermen and Politicians Apologize For -- or Defend -- Their Climate Alarmism
You know why they do this, right?
Apart from Global Warming, I mean. Though that's a big part of it. It also goes to the media's calculated 2005 decision to turn a hurricane for which the local Democratic Mayor and the local Democratic Governor had all responsibility into George W. Bush's Weather Watergate. Now, of course the media only did that Because Bush. They're not going to apply the same absurd rules to other people. But other politicians can't be sure. After all, the media is 1 corrupt 2 stupid 3 immature 4 borderline insane; who knows the next time the media will claim All of This Weather Is YOUR FAULT?! So, now it's accepted that government officials will essentially declare Martial Law on a whim. Martial Law has become mainstreamed, thanks to our viciously incompetent media.After being a promised a blizzard of historic and catastrophic proportions on Monday, New York City residents woke up today to rather meager snow totals and a lot of questions for their public officials. ... In the media capital of the world, however, the howls are loud after predictions of [snowfall in NYC specifically of] 30 inches or more fizzled into somewhere closer to five or six. Meteorologists are even apologizing for their somewhat overblown predictions. The focus, in particular, seems to be about the decision to shut down New York City at 11:00 p.m. Tuesday night. All roads in the region (not just in the city, but in Connecticut and New Jersey, as well) were closed to non-emergency traffic, but Governor Andrew Cuomo also made the unprecedented decision to preemptively shut down the entire NYC subway system. That's never happened in the 100-plus years of the subways due to snow. Yet, by 11:00 p.m., it was already becoming clear that such a move was likely going to be unnecessary. That confusion quickly turned to outrage after a report by The Brooklyn Paper that the subway was actually still running. In order to keep the power on and the tracks clear, the MTA continued to shuttle empty trains all throughout the system and was planning to all along. It was apparently Cuomo's decision to shut the system to passengers, a move that caught MTA off guard and appeared to be unnecessary. Naturally, some people are upset about the overreaction. It's one thing to clear the streets of cars, but the subway is the lifeline of the city, particularly for those people who work third-shift jobs or have family and friends in other boroughs. Cries of "nanny state"-ism, political posturing, or just plain cowardice are ringing out today.These high-handed, alarmist, panicky, lawless actions are being defended on grounds of "safety." This is not an overblown statement: All forms of fascism and totalitarianism proceed under the guise of securing the public's "safety and security." I don't think you can cite a single time where fascism did not ride upon twin horses named Public Safety and Public Security. We seem to becoming jaded by frequent assertions of dictatorial power for this claimed emergency or that imagined crisis. And let us be clear about things: Cuomo did not do this to "protect the public safety." He did this to protect his own political safety. Let us stop pretending to believe the most ridiculous lies of politicians. Let us start dealing forthrightly with one another. Cuomo thought he should and could do this to spare him a potential three to five point drop in the polls. We should tell him that covering his soft political ass is not a mighty enough justification to start ordering American Citizens about as if they were conscripts in a third world army. Meanwhile, weathermen, who are to Science what drummers are to rock bands, shriek a lot about every snowstorm and blizzard because these are the few times each year that women pay them any sort of attention. Though some are of course still claiming they were So Right to be So Wrong.
However, Uccellini stressed erring on the side of caution and planning for the worst was "the right decision" given the potential for "extraordinary" snow totals.You know, it probably just sounds like smart-alec sophomorism to claim that weather dweebs overstate the danger of bad weather in order to draw attention to themselves. It may sound that way, but it's true. People are strongly motivated, often unconsciously, sometimes quite consciously, by simple personal interest. All persons wish to acquire social capital. All people want to advance up the bricks of the giant social pyramid. It may sound stupid to accuse professionals of using their credentials to accrue social capital, but it is actually far more stupid than to claim the opposite -- that a "professional," by virtue of his tinpot license, has somehow been elevated above and beyond human behavioral imperatives and can so now be trusted to act entirely without the taint of self interest, much like Angels or God. All of these people "talk their own book" and only a fool credits them otherwise.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: ALH at January 27, 2015 04:21 PM (yAPdC)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:22 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: ALH at January 27, 2015 04:22 PM (yAPdC)
Posted by: Sean Bannion, Chief of the Logistics Directorate, People's Democratic Republic of Alextopia at January 27, 2015 04:22 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:22 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:22 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: ALH at January 27, 2015 04:22 PM (yAPdC)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:22 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: Kristophr at January 27, 2015 04:23 PM (6ROe1)
Posted by: Kristophr at January 27, 2015 04:23 PM (6ROe1)
Posted by: ALH at January 27, 2015 04:23 PM (yAPdC)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:24 PM (2Aj5D)
"We could panic and shutdown the subway thereby inconveniencing and aggravating millions and millions of voting citizens?"
"Capital! Get that underway immediately!"
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Paranoia Punch with Electrolytes at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 04:24 PM (hLRSq)
As a drummer, ace, ouch. Just, ouch.
Posted by: CM at January 27, 2015 04:24 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Ministry of Truth at January 27, 2015 04:25 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: ALH at January 27, 2015 04:25 PM (yAPdC)
I want to be left alone.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:25 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at January 27, 2015 04:25 PM (sH832)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 04:25 PM (PuQW/)
Biggest nerd I've ever met, and I went to an engineering school for college.
Oh, and he and his wife divorced soon afterwards; she's extended family, so I see her occasionally; she expects me to have the good taste to never remind her of her first husband.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 27, 2015 04:26 PM (DLu2s)
Posted by: Chet Cognomen, Thinking about CS Lewis for Some Reason at January 27, 2015 04:26 PM (RwwCT)
Posted by: dogfish at January 27, 2015 04:26 PM (1vYi0)
Goodness, we've gotten 5-6 inches in arkansas and didn't bother shutting roads down I think. And we are terrible at clearing roads! (They'll tow you in a heartbeat if you abandon your car, though.)
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 04:26 PM (lIU4e)
"Overton Window"
Seriously. At this point, it's practically martial law for major weather events. People gripe and complain, but don't do anything about it (like, say, protesting by going out in the streets when they're not supposed to).
And every time it happens, people get a little more used to it.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:27 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: ALH at January 27, 2015 04:27 PM (yAPdC)
Posted by: Chet Cognomen, Thinking about CS Lewis for Some Reason at January 27, 2015 04:27 PM (RwwCT)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 04:28 PM (PuQW/)
Posted by: Kristophr at January 27, 2015 04:28 PM (6ROe1)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 04:28 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 27, 2015 04:28 PM (DLu2s)
Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (wlDny)
But look how compliant we've become.
-- State of Emergency declared a whole day before the actual emergency.
--Driving bans.
And we don't bat an eye.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (q19mL)
Confusion to the media, clarity to the people.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (zFLZx)
Posted by: Boss Moss
The "Shut Up" clause.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: NCKate at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (EBMYe)
balls
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (q19mL)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (kdS6q)
Me too. Instead, all we get is People of Snow flaunting their privilege. O_o
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 27, 2015 04:30 PM (zFLZx)
That said, I do have experience with TX weathermen (and, increasingly, weatherchicks). I have never seen one advocating shutting down a city preemptively. Given the nature of tornadoes, they are usually pretty quick to say "hey, get out of the rain," but that really is just "erring on the side of caution."
So, for the weathermen, I'm prepared to give them a pass.
The politicians? Not so much.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:30 PM (kff5f)
We've been ordered to stay. Like we're dogs.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 04:30 PM (q19mL)
"Hey guys, I wrote some songs."
But, I personally use both my professional credentials and drumming ability to attain both social capital and act as an angel.
It can happen...jus sayin.
Posted by: orange mule at January 27, 2015 04:30 PM (uXcD2)
I wish we would get snow. I would really enjoy staying home for a couple of days. I might bake some cookies.
Me too. Instead, all we get is People of Snow flaunting their privilege. O_o
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (ZKzrr)
The Original White Privilege.
Posted by: ALH at January 27, 2015 04:30 PM (yAPdC)
Please don't tell me he turned into a global warming nut in his later years or something.
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 04:30 PM (tD74j)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 04:30 PM (PuQW/)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 04:30 PM (oDCMR)
I don't want to be too get off my lawn but things do seem to be ramped up from even 15 years ago. I cannot remember school ever being cancelled due to cold and I remember times when there were no running water at our school because the pipes froze.
I recall a few travel bans but those were issued once it became apparent the plows couldn't keep up. I don't remember it happening before.
Posted by: alexthechick - My preeecciiiooouuusss at January 27, 2015 04:31 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:31 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 27, 2015 04:31 PM (zFLZx)
"At this point, it's practically martial law for major weather events."
Not in the south, as far as I can see. Even when the weather is bad they just 'suggest' that you stay off the roads if you can. Even when they evacuate for a hurricane there are still tons of people who stick around.
NYC/NJ seem to freak out at any possibility though!
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 04:31 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 27, 2015 04:31 PM (R8hU8)
To the Barrel!
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:31 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom
My rule is that I'll live in an area that gets snow, or has alligators. Areas that have both? That's just wrong.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 27, 2015 04:31 PM (Spluw)
What the asshats in gubment failed to do was look at the new data and act accordingly. They stuck to the fear model.
The "Reality Based Community" my ass.
Posted by: Drill Thrawl at January 27, 2015 04:31 PM (xtpUs)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (q19mL)
I miss Harold Taft.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (zFLZx)
Posted by: Boss Moss
The "Shut Up" clause.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (7OF+y
Shut up and like it clause?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:27 PM (kff5f)
The frustrating thing is that you know if you do go out like a rational person, you may be the only out there except for the police or National Guard that arrest you for disobeying a 'state of emergency' order. An arrest that, by the way, will be validated by every liberal stacked court system in the US (which is almost all of them), and probably get you put on a no-fly list because you didn't go along with the herd!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 04:28 PM (PuQW/)
This the action of a state government, not the federal government. Check the state constitution but remembering that states have a lot of police power to protect the health, safety, morals, and general welfare of their populations.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Paranoia Punch with Electrolytes at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (hLRSq)
That "drummer" line was funny, but untrue - drummers are the backbone of any good band. Just ask Neil Peart, Buddy Rich, Whipper Layton, etc.
Posted by: shredded chi at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (3uV3Z)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (PuQW/)
All this messing with weather has put off important work on the SMOD Project.
Posted by: Kristophr at January 27, 2015 04:33 PM (6ROe1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2015 04:33 PM (nzKvP)
" Given the nature of tornadoes, they are usually pretty quick to say "hey, get out of the rain,"
To be fair, it's pretty hard to dictate anything for tornados, since you never know where they will hit. The weathermen are very forceful about saying 'if you are in such and such area seek shelter NOW' but that's just good sense.
One time, a tornado was passing over the local weather guys neighborhood and he was like 'honey, take the kids and get in the bathroom'. Heh.
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 04:33 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2015 04:33 PM (zoehZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (7OF+y)
"Well, one computer is saying X, and the other computers are all saying Y, but I've seen this too often, so I predict Z."
You just don't get that anymore. Especially since he was right whenever he did that.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:33 PM (kff5f)
Majesty we're simply weaker now...
Blizzard of 78 was far worse...folk went to work
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 27, 2015 04:34 PM (zFLZx)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Paranoia Punch with Electrolytes at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 04:34 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 04:34 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson(D) at January 27, 2015 04:34 PM (LA7Cm)
You rang?
Posted by: Comité de salut public (1793-1795) at January 27, 2015 04:34 PM (DT3rQ)
Cape Cod by the canal had 20" as of this morning and still snowing. 70 mph gusts.
Mom's car was buried by drifts, Dad's, just a few inches.
Posted by: Drill Thrawl at January 27, 2015 04:34 PM (xtpUs)
Now that this blizzard has proved to be about as impressive as this stupid cow's railing against the patriarchy I wonder what she has to say.
Posted by: Captain Dogcock at January 27, 2015 04:34 PM (2aB+q)
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:34 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 27, 2015 04:35 PM (Spluw)
No sex, but a lot of attention. It's "Hey, get me a beer!" or "Haul this out to the van." or "You, pay the bar tab."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 04:35 PM (0HooB)
You just don't get that anymore. Especially since he was right whenever he did that.
Posted by: AllenG
Back when they stuck stuff on poster board.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:35 PM (7OF+y)
global warming scam and to get the news more on the weather and less on
the many Obama disasters.
Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2015 04:29 PM (wlDny)
Also, training wheels for the obedience classes!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 27, 2015 04:35 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: bergerbilder at January 27, 2015 04:35 PM (8MjqI)
Yeah, which is *why* people don't go out to oppose the order. No one wants to risk being the only one who does.
Which is why ace is right- any politician who does this *must* pay a very heavy price.
Of course, I'm not sure how we do that, either...
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:36 PM (kff5f)
Edited for improved accuracy
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2015 04:36 PM (8ZskC)
"Meanwhile, weathermen, who are to Science what drummers are to rock bands, shriek a lot about every snowstorm and blizzard because these are the few times each year that women pay them any sort of attention."
That sentence is a thing of beauty. We've got one in StL whose advice during storms is to turn the tv up to full volume, go to the basement, and "Listen to me. I will get you through this!"
He delivers this line just like Peter Finch in Network, "I want you to go to your windows...!"
Fucking maniac.
Posted by: rickinstl at January 27, 2015 04:36 PM (0AEWQ)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (NJDE1)
WWE still has to get to about 1.4M to fully replace their old PPV revenue.
UFC has a similar-ish network, UFC Fight Pass, but UFC is private and doesn't release subscriber #s. Big difference is WWE moved all of their live PPVs to the WWE Network, while UFC has not.
WWE Network hits 1 Million subscribers -- Thank you WWE Universe! | WWE.com http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-network-one-million-subscribers-27047223 via @wwe
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:32 PM (7OF+y)
My guess is that Vic and Nip miss President Taft.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (2Aj5D)
I just went outside and all I can say is thank Christ it is cold because this snow would hella heavy if it was wetter.
But it's cold. And windy. Still snowing, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (q19mL)
Posted by: Your Friendly NJ Neighborhood Fat Nanny at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (UzPAd)
there goes another failure to initiate Federal Subsidies for needy storm survivors..
Honey I tried to tell you my knees were hurting but every time I started to say something about it you said shut the eff up and keep on effing.
Posted by: Bill Freehan at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (/WmRg)
Please don't tell me he turned into a global warming nut in his later years or something.
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 04:30 PM (tD74j)
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You mean Gary England in OKC?
If so...yeah, he went there. He's a liberal guy.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (hX3bN)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: shredded chi
Ehh, I could even do it with one hand tied behind my back.
Posted by: What Rick Allen would say at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (1vYi0)
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (/HX7u)
I remember the blizzard that hit New England back 1978. Idiots were out driving and got stuck all over the place. Cops spent days rescuing them from their cars.
I'm ok with repealing the driving bans if we make a rule that says if you get stuck driving in a blinding snowstorm you're on your own. Dumb people should be responsible for their own stupidity.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Bob Dole at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (F0gty)
I keep tellin' ya, "historic" now means "not worth a shit." As in "historic President." A "historic storm?" Pffft.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (oKE6c)
Geez. Most places only bury stiffs 6 ft deep.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:38 PM (7OF+y)
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That is their rationalization for every action, no matter what the cost or assured negative consequence.
Witness: AGW
But it extends to every aspect of contemporary life. The compulsion to regulate.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 04:38 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 04:38 PM (lIU4e)
yea right
Posted by: big mick at January 27, 2015 04:38 PM (q+zA9)
No sex, but a lot of attention. It's "Hey, get me a beer!" or "Haul this out to the van." or "You, pay the bar tab."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 04:35 PM (0HooB
My brother says the same thing. I tell him he should have applied himself and become a guitar player :-)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:38 PM (2Aj5D)
However, not more than three weeks ago, San Francisco got hit with some rain, and the financial district ended up without power. This little storm managed to show that the City has neglected its maintenance and infrastructure so badly that it takes next to nothing to knock it back on its heels.
Maybe New York was worried about the same thing?
Posted by: Dianna at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (DV/Ik)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (2cS/G)
To be fair, it's pretty hard to dictate anything for tornados, since you never know where they will hit. The weathermen are very forceful about saying 'if you are in such and such area seek shelter NOW' but that's just good sense.
One time, a tornado was passing over the local weather guys neighborhood and he was like 'honey, take the kids and get in the bathroom'. Heh.
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 04:33 PM (lIU4e)
Yeah, I grew up in an area that got tornadoes so I am used to weathermen saying okay seek cover now really and truly meaning YOU ARE GOING TO DIE ASSHAT.
Wait. Since it didn't hit NYC but just hit Massachusetts instead, that means it didn't happen?
I need to go find that article in The Onion about how people in Boston are playing a living in a real city sim game.
Posted by: alexthechick - My preeecciiiooouuusss at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (mf5HN)
Supremacy Clause....
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (qh617)
It's the politicians and non-weather personnel "braving" severe weather that bother me.
Posted by: FDR's Television at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (81IdR)
It's the politicians and non-weather personnel "braving" severe weather that bother me.
Posted by: FDR's Television at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (81IdR)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (hX3bN)
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Strange. I know him and he's always told me that AGW is bullshit.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 27, 2015 04:40 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:36 PM (kff5f)
I personally am liking the Ace Theory of Political Decimation!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 27, 2015 04:40 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: maddogg at January 27, 2015 04:40 PM (xWW96)
Which part of the Constitution allows Martial Law to be declared for inclement weather?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 04:28 PM (PuQW/)"
That would be the "penumbras and emanations" clause.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 27, 2015 04:40 PM (KDbAT)
Supremacy Clause.... then
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
Some assembly required..
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (qh617)
Hit post too fast...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:40 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 04:40 PM (q19mL)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 04:40 PM (oDCMR)
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But, come on, if Gary England did it we all would have listened. Also google tells me he does not believe in man made global warming. Hurray.
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 04:40 PM (tD74j)
/tin foil
Posted by: Bigby's Signifying Hands at January 27, 2015 04:40 PM (3ZtZW)
England was one of the best, but then folks in that part of the country tend to take storms more seriously. In SE Colorado, we'll hear about the tornado on the 5:00 news. Maybe.
Posted by: wisenheimer at January 27, 2015 04:41 PM (qnhj2)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:41 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 04:41 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 04:42 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 04:42 PM (+eQyZ)
I saw it coming from yesterday, but still very funny.
Posted by: shredded chi at January 27, 2015 04:42 PM (3uV3Z)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (g1DWB)
There you go, displaying your "smart" privilege!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 27, 2015 04:42 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 04:42 PM (tD74j)
Posted by: Lea
Snowgatornado 1, 2 & 3! Coming soon to the SciFy Channel!
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:42 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 04:42 PM (oDCMR)
________
It's towards the back...next to the sections guaranteeing free college and free high speed internet to everyone.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 04:43 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: maddogg at January 27, 2015 04:43 PM (xWW96)
I don't think you can cite a single time where fascism did not ride upon twin horses named Public Safety and Public Security.
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Ja...... but ve also liked the lebensraum .....
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2015 04:43 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at January 27, 2015 04:43 PM (TPjwz)
Posted by: Super
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Snowscam?
Snowgate?
Snowghazi?
Snowquiddick?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 04:44 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 04:44 PM (2cS/G)
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Buffalo is where people are exiled. They are non-people.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 04:44 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 04:44 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2015 04:44 PM (DXzRD)
Our drummers made us what we are....Confused.
Posted by: Spinal Tap at January 27, 2015 04:45 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: bergerbilder at January 27, 2015 04:45 PM (8MjqI)
Ever notice that wind chill doesnt get applied on summer days..... and humidity levels are not factored in the winter???
**best Andy Rooney Voice**
Now.... why issssss that...
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2015 04:45 PM (NaV4z)
I don't think you can cite a single time where fascism did not ride upon twin horses named Public Safety and Public Security.
Shut your whore mouth.
Posted by: George Bush at January 27, 2015 04:45 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 04:39 PM (/HX7u)
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Really? I guess I'm remembering the stuff the station has done on the subject...and had his name associated with it.
They're a CBS affiliate, after all.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 04:45 PM (hX3bN)
Bush helped 'em do it. Right down the line.
Bush and his media people had him photographed gazing pensively out the window of Air Force One in flight at the devastation below. Straight out of the Poppy Bush playbook. ("Message: I care.")
The instant I saw that, I facepalmed, and said, to be captioned by the media as Arrogant Distant Out Of Touch Incompetent Leader Afraid To Descend To Ground To Witness Results Of His Abject Failures. Sure enough, precisely what the media did with it.
Then when it became clear that there were a hell of a lot of people left in what remained of New Orleans, and that there was a giant humanitarian relief problem developing, what did Bush then do?
He could have pointed out repeatedly that it was the job of the Mayor and Governor to have gotten those people out in advance, under a longstanding pre-agreed plan between the feds, the state, the parishes, and the city.
Bush might further have put it on the record that the Mayor and Governor had been given entirely adequate advance warning to accomplish their preassigned goals under said plan. And that they had screwed the pooch.
Instead, Bush busied himself with handing a birthday cake to Juan McShitstain on the airport tarmac in front of all of the television cameras. (GREAT optics there. Just awesome.)
And being vocally congratulatory about how well FEMA was handling things, even though FEMA was visibly behind the curve. ("Heckuva job, Brownie.")
Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2015 04:45 PM (noWW6)
IIRC they were throwing monies at the problem and declaring disasters and whatnot.
Posted by: Bigby's Signifying Hands at January 27, 2015 04:46 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 27, 2015 04:46 PM (4CVLy)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 04:42 PM (oDCMR)
In SoCal the weatherettes get out on an overpass in parkas and mittens to report on the bitter cold. People, it's 50 degrees! Where were you when the cold snap hit? How are you going to ride it out?
I'm not making this up. Their breath isn't even condensing, fer cryin' out loud.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 04:46 PM (oKE6c)
I especially like the ones that do it in a hurricane. Cameraman looks like he's following the football on a kickoff on MNF.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:46 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 04:46 PM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Super
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Snowscam?
Snowgate?
Snowghazi?
Snowquiddick?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 04:44 PM (l1zOH
Did Crispe Creme close bridge lanes, AGAIN?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:46 PM (2Aj5D)
Attempts to contact NY Governor Andrew Cuomo for comment failed; our reporter could not hear the Governor over the loud cheering in the background.
Posted by: Associated Presstitutes at January 27, 2015 04:47 PM (o+SC1)
We get a snowstorm here, and those idiot local stations cancel an hour of afternoon programming to cover it. It's the dumbest thing you ever saw. It reminds me of the SNL sketch where Buckwheat gets killed, and the newspeople are over covering it by repeating the same things, playing the same clip over and over, and trying desperately to think of ways to fill up time. They're stupid, self important people trying to suck everything they can get from a "story".
The schools around here, fortunately, are smarter. They don't close schools hours before the storm hits. If we're already getting pounded at 10 o'clock at night, they might cancel school for the next day. But when a storm is PREDICTED they wait until 4 or 5 in the morning, look at what is actually happening, and make their decision based on the real thing.
The mayor of NYC needs to stop stomping all over people's rights and put his effort into running his city better.
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 04:47 PM (N2hPc)
They lost me years ago with the moronic storm reality shows and the weak storm chaser show with the two nondescript guys chasing tornados in a Chevy Cobalt.
Did I mention TWC sucks?
Posted by: wisenheimer at January 27, 2015 04:47 PM (qnhj2)
Bush might further have put it on the record that the Mayor and Governor had been given entirely adequate advance warning to accomplish their preassigned goals under said plan. And that they had screwed the pooch.
And they wonder why they're called the Stoopid Party...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 04:47 PM (0HooB)
These silly fucks cannot predict a show storm in NYC with anything save for middling accuracy, yet they can tell us the earth is warming at :
.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001degree per year? Fuck me.
Posted by: maddogg at January 27, 2015 04:47 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2015 04:47 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 04:43 PM (0LHZx)
Exactly. Right after the "Good and Plenty" clause.
Posted by: Drill Thrawl at January 27, 2015 04:48 PM (xtpUs)
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Whatever, I'm not going to partake in gratuitous cheapshots at Bush. Katrina wasn't his fault. Every sane person knows that. The media portrayed him the way they did. They were going to do that no matter what.
Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 04:48 PM (gmeXX)
Yeah, I grew up in an area that got tornadoes so I am used to weathermen saying okay seek cover now really and truly meaning YOU ARE GOING TO DIE ASSHAT.
*****
Yes, the tornado coverage tends to be pretty good. And people pay attention because tornados are scary. When they aren't outside, trying to take video footage that is *eyeroll*
(Yes, OKC gets some terrible weather. Bad tornados and bad ice storms! Have some coworkers there...)
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 04:48 PM (lIU4e)
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Bush was fucked no matter what he did. Had he said anything negative about Nagan it would have been RAAAAAAAYYYYCCCCIIISSSMMMMM. Had he not flown over NO, he would have been a heartless asshole who coudln't even be bothered to see the devastation first hand.
Damn if he did, damned if he didn't.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 04:48 PM (0LHZx)
The FIRST thing progressives do, when a challenge develops, is to limit Freedom.
Not warn people that they might want to stay home because.... snow...
But tell them it will be against the LAW to move about.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:48 PM (qh617)
Posted by: MSM at January 27, 2015 04:49 PM (XzRw1)
Dude, I get lots of attention as a drummer.
No sex, but a lot of attention. It's "Hey, get me a beer!" or "Haul this out to the van." or "You, pay the bar tab."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 04:35 PM (0HooB)"
Not even hand jobs from the fat girl friend of the chick who is banging the lead singer or the guitarist? It's hardly worth showing up.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 27, 2015 04:49 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 04:49 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 04:49 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2015 04:47 PM (ucDmr
Ah, the President of the George Graphos Club I take it?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:49 PM (2Aj5D)
I wonder if in twenty years they'll refer to it as "The Great Histrionic New England Blizzard of '15"....?
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (NaV4z)
By far, the Most Important Thing To Govt Storm Prep is...
the goddam stupid SIGN LANGUAGE LADY
If we don't have Sign Language Lady, deaf people might be offended!!
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (q19mL)
Check again. It is federalism, and the states have the general police powers. And due process of law? Well, you just got all of the process you are due, so obey the law.
Isn't my opinion alone, the court decisions have come down pretty plainly on that.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Paranoia Punch with Electrolytes at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (hLRSq)
I get a kick out of idiots with no hat or mittens outside to report on "dangerous windchills."
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (Zi7PZ)
What makes you think if Bush had presented a written plan that had been signed off on by the governor of LA and the mayor of Chocolate City showing that they had full responsibility the msm wouldn't have blamed Bush anyway? It's what they do. They blame Republicans no matter what the facts are.
Obama goes to Texas in the middle of a human disaster that he helped create along the border and refuses to visit the border and the msm yawns.
There are just different rules for Democrats and Republicans and it doesn't matter what the facts are.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (g1DWB)
I think Jonah Goldberg may have written about it in one of his books.
Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (gmeXX)
Poor Fatman just can't get it right. Close part of a bridge and catch Hell nationally. In an effort to not seem disconnected again he overacts to WinterDeath 2015 and pisses people off again.
Heh.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (LA7Cm)
sound familiar ?????
Posted by: McCool at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (TQxRy)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (q19mL)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 04:51 PM (+eQyZ)
(this is for both snowmageddon and PC Gestapo threads)
Every thing going wrong in the country, being torn down, discredited or demonstrating lack of statesmanship or citizenship lies at the feet at some point with the Press?
We really need to do something. Licenses maybe.
Or perhaps make them more visible. No more bylines but actual bios. Where they went to school, how much money they make, what neighborhood they live in and the cost of their house and especially who they donate to and who they vote for.
Can't we demand that somehow?
I just want to kick the Press in the balls/cootch for how effed up they've effed things up because of their failure to be citizens first and media whores second.
They've made it almost impossible to ever recover.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 27, 2015 04:51 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 27, 2015 04:51 PM (QCo5R)
Key difference is???
When tornado warnings go out... its telling you to voluntarily take shelter.
Its not a LEGAL ORDER to stay off the street... as this was.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:51 PM (qh617)
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 04:45 PM (hX3bN)
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I do remember him saying on air sometime in April 1999 that it had been a long time since OKC had seen a large tornado. And then May 3rd. He was saying the same thing just prior to the large tornado that hit us a couple of years ago. He does know his weather.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 04:51 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2015 04:51 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: maddogg at January 27, 2015 04:51 PM (xWW96)
Snowgatornado 1, 2 3! Coming soon to the SciFy Channel!
*********
We've got to fit 'swamp' in their too, since every show that is set in La has 'swamp' in the title.
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (lIU4e)
If we don't have Sign Language Lady, deaf people might be offended!!
Posted by: Soothsayer
Need Mandela funeral guy!
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (7OF+y)
anything negative about Nagan it would have been
RAAAAAAAYYYYCCCCIIISSSMMMMM. Had he not flown over NO, he would have
been a heartless asshole who coudln't even be bothered to see the
devastation first hand.
Damn if he did, damned if he didn't.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 04:48 PM (0LHZx)"
Once again, another illustration of the malign power of the media. This raises the question, how do we defeat these evil leftist bastards before they destroy our once great country?
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (KDbAT)
I get a kick out of idiots with no hat or mittens outside to report on "dangerous windchills."
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (ZKzrr)
And we are only days away from Groundhog's Day. Wonder how many rodents will die at the hands of De Blasio?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (2Aj5D)
It read, "I'm glad we shut down the city. The Governor made the right call."
That driver's name was George Zip.
Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (Ks4nX)
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (qh617)
The press wet themselves straight down to the socks before the first raindrop hit. 'Worst storms in five years!'
Our local school district got stampeded into canceling classes for the first time I can EVER remember.
Posted by: Associated Presstitutes at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (o+SC1)
Well, as a former rhythm guitar player, I can say...
sloppy seconds aren't that good, and thank G*d I wasn't a drummer.
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Art Mullen's Marshal stiffy at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (tdmtT)
I thought that was what Closed Captioning was for? Hasn't just about every TV built in the last 20 years have that capability?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 04:52 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Super
Tsnownami. :^)
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I really like that one. Its so Japanesey.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 04:53 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: JEM at January 27, 2015 04:53 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 04:53 PM (ZKzrr)
And...yeah that was accurate.
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 04:53 PM (MYCIw)
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We resist. We fight. We organize. The same we have been doing for the past 50 years.
Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 04:53 PM (gmeXX)
A friend complained mightily that helicopters had not gone into New Orleans for 12 hours after landfall.
I asked him to consider that helicopters can't fly in windows above 60 miles per hour and that hurricanes are Pretty Fucking Big and Katrina was Pretty Fucking Slow.
He couldn't make the connection between the fact that winds were above safe conditions for 12 hours with the result that helicopters weren't in New Orleans for 12 hours.
...
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 27, 2015 04:54 PM (4CVLy)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 04:54 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:51 PM (qh617)
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Even if the local authorities would say that, no one would listen to it. Many get in there cars and drive away anyway if they think they're in a tornado's path.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 04:54 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (+eQyZ)
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We resist. We fight. We organize. The same we have been doing for the past 50 years.
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Just to add - if that is too exhausting - you can just move to Texas.
Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (gmeXX)
the "media" is the school newspaper staff - and their BFFs were the student council types - who are now our "leaders".
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (y5n9M)
raises the question, how do we defeat these evil leftist bastards before
they destroy our once great country?
First step: Ignore them
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: a tweaking meteorologist at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (tdmtT)
And wind up in stand still traffic on 35. *facepalm*
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (ucDmr)
safe conditions for 12 hours with the result that helicopters weren't in
New Orleans for 12 hours.
The laws of physics are racist, you know.
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (ZKzrr)
Yes, 30 inches is a hella lot of snow. I get that. I live in Texas in part specifically because I don't have to deal with snow very much- and certainly not 30 inches.
That said, my wife is from Northern Michigan. She laughs at your 30 inches. Her definition of "snowed in" is somewhere beyond "can't find the car" and all the way into "snow higher than the door frame."
As she described it, her town only had a snow day if the Superintendent couldn't make it to work- and he had a 4x4 with a snow-plow attachment.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (kff5f)
Someone had to tell him that it was snow falling and not suet.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2015 04:56 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Obnoxious
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THAT is the central issue. The problem is that it all starts in academe, and the Leftists have assumed full control.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 04:56 PM (l1zOH)
I believe DeBLasio has been banned from contacti with groundhogs this year
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2015 04:56 PM (DXzRD)
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Its very simple - don't talk to them. Pick real reporters from real newspapers across the country and let them be your story teller. None of them are looking to be boned by the Gay Anchor or Executive Producer so why would they screw their ticket to fame?
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 04:56 PM (oDCMR)
Meanwhile, weathermen, who are to Science what drummers are to rock bands
You mean, spontaneous human combustion?
So Billy Ayers the Weatherman was just a frustrated drummer.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2015 04:56 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (+eQyZ
Fine New Yorkian Flake.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:56 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 04:57 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Mark in Portland at January 27, 2015 04:57 PM (DpRZj)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:56 PM (2Aj5D)
Perfect description of an Ex Girlfriend....
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:58 PM (qh617)
Blame De Blasio and Cuomo and Christie for the Blizzard Snow Job
As we waited for the storm deemed "historic," the only real history was made when the subway shut down for the first time ever in preparation for snow. The real insult came when it was reported later that the trains were indeed still running, empty, as trains needed to keep moving to clear the tracks. Citibike was shut down. Cars were banned from the roads and anyone who didn't take heed risked being fined.
These are all symptoms of our infantilizing "do something!" culture.
... OMG, when you've lost TIME
Posted by: Bill Nye at January 27, 2015 04:58 PM (e8kgV)
The FIRST thing progressives do, when a challenge develops, is to limit Freedom.
Not warn people that they might want to stay home because.... snow...
But tell them it will be against the LAW to move about.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 04:48 PM (qh617)
Exactly. The thing to do would be to announce a travel advisory, and urge people to stay home unless absolutely necessary. Explain that the advisory would be upgraded to a ban if conditions warranted, and that people who were traveling would risk being unable to return home for the duration of the ban.
That's not so complicated. It would have kept all but the most stupid and careless people at home.
But threatening people with arrest for leaving their home is effin' bullshit. It's no different than the lockdown after the Boston bombing.
Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2015 04:58 PM (zoehZ)
That's what got those stormchasers killed outside of OKC last year (or before.) Tornado changed course, they tried to outrun and avoid it, and, got stuck on the IH right in it's path in heavy traffic.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 04:58 PM (LA7Cm)
We went skiing.
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 04:58 PM (MYCIw)
Yes, 30 inches is a hella lot of snow. I get that. I live in Texas in part specifically because I don't have to deal with snow very much- and certainly not 30 inches.
That said, my wife is from Northern Michigan. She laughs at your 30 inches. Her definition of "snowed in" is somewhere beyond "can't find the car" and all the way into "snow higher than the door frame."
As she described it, her town only had a snow day if the Superintendent couldn't make it to work- and he had a 4x4 with a snow-plow attachment.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (kff5f
As a guy who has lived thru snowfalls of 30" or more its not a big deal. What is a big deal is for Municipal DPWs and where you put the dam shit.
I think what the NY Authorities did was total bullshit. Glad I don't live there.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 04:58 PM (vPh3W)
In all seriousness there is a huge difference getting 30 inches of snow in suburbia or a rural area and getting it in big, densely populated city. My folks had a farm on the side of mountain in Vermont for a while. Trust me, 30 inches of snow was what they called Tuesday.
But you get that much in a big city packed with dumbasses and things go wrong. Always. Guaranteed.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 04:58 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Victoria at January 27, 2015 04:58 PM (nWKAY)
Posted by: Lt. Smokey of the LIB Brigade at January 27, 2015 04:59 PM (8/dgB)
http://tinyurl.com/mevzu3g
Posted by: bergerbilder at January 27, 2015 04:59 PM (8MjqI)
Posted by: GOP at January 27, 2015 04:59 PM (XzRw1)
They were signing during the MSM's coverage of the 2008 and 2012 elections. What does the sign mean when they point at us and then repeatedly slide the index finger of one hand through the circle of the thumb and index finger of the other hand?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 04:59 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 04:49 PM (2cS/G)
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This shit happens every winter. It's fucking retahhded. I've lived in snowy climates most of my life. I know what a lot of snow brings with it. You just deal with it. The hyperventilating is embarrassing.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 04:59 PM (0LHZx)
Yeah, Gary England has been a pioneer in tornado coverage.
He's the first one I remember to ever mention a "hook echo" formation on radar.
And also "carousel formation"...when two or three little tornados combine to make a monster.
Glad to hear he's not a true believer of AGW.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 05:00 PM (hX3bN)
In SoCal the weatherettes get out on an overpass in parkas and mittens to report on the bitter cold. People, it's 50 degrees!
*******
One of our local news reporterettes had a little segment a few weeks ago (when it was actually cold, not 60+ like it's been for the last week). It was a hard hitting news report about how wet drainage type spots freeze on the road when the temp drops below 32. And then they showed you one spot. Hilarious.
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 05:00 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 04:58 PM (g1DWB)
Wait'll they get a load of us.
Posted by: The Zombies at January 27, 2015 05:00 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 05:00 PM (0HooB)
so A CONSENSUS of METEROLOGISTS warn everyone of DIRE consequences based
on the outputs of their sophisticated MODELS and POLITICIANS eagerly
use this to restrict FREEDOMS and shutdown COMMERCE.....
sound familiar ?????
Posted by: McCool at January 27, 2015 04:50 PM (TQxRy)"
Their models are pretty good up to 96 hours. They predicted that a snow storm would hit the North East and it did. They predicted that snow would be pretty deep in places and it was in Boston. New Yorkers are some of the most provincial people on the planet. If it didn't happen within a few miles of them, they ignore it. Most other people on earth stopped thinking that way once bicycles, trains and telegraphs were invented.
A caveat. Just because weather prediction models are good for 96 hours does not mean that climate prediction models are good at predicting a decade in the future, especially when they are fed historical data and can't predict yesterday's climate.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 27, 2015 05:00 PM (KDbAT)
The FIRST thing progressives do, when a challenge develops, is to limit Freedom.
Because there is no problem that Marxism can't solve.
The Left loves chaos -- that's why they create most of it.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 05:00 PM (q19mL)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 05:01 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 05:01 PM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 04:55 PM (MYCIw)
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That's why you plan tornado escape routes to avoid those areas. I just travel north or south on May Ave. Good enough.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 05:01 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 27, 2015 05:01 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 05:01 PM (2cS/G)
No. He didn't.
I'm so smart, I could be governor!
Posted by: PJ at January 27, 2015 05:01 PM (cHuNI)
raises the question, how do we defeat these evil leftist bastards before
they destroy our once great country?
Start our own Youtube-like channel. First start with Youtube itself, build some viewership, then migrate. PJ Media is a start, but hasn't really taken wing. We need some commentators who are willing to get outrageous and funny, to attract viewership.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 05:02 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:02 PM (PuQW/)
And?
You get anything- up to and including "literally nothing" in a big city packed with dumbasses and things go wrong. Because, in a big city packed with dumbasses, things will go wrong. Snow, rain, sunshine? Doesn't matter.
Might those "things" that "go wrong" be easier to deal with without the snow? Sure. So what?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 05:02 PM (kff5f)
Back In The Day in Philadelphia we had a daily kids show called "Captain Noah" - the weather forecast was given by Barry the Barometer, a talking barometer.
One day all the news channels collectively FREAKED OUT about the impending weather DOOM. Barry calmly informed the kids that there'd be some snow, but not enough to worry about.
Barry the Barometer was right.
Since then I place my weather trust in anthropomorphic meteorological devices.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 27, 2015 05:03 PM (4CVLy)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 05:03 PM (2cS/G)
That shrieking queen blows everything out of proportion and is a big believer in "why isn't SOMEONE (read: government) doing something?!?!?"
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2015 05:03 PM (oFCZn)
I think they have to declare an emergency/martial law to make those commands legal.
And even then there (as for an emergency) is a limit on what they can force anyone to do.
They may be able to close highways by blocking them but I don't think the cops can legally arrest you. (yeah of course they can come up with some infraction)
It's a very gray area that hasn't had too much litigation. Mostly because most executives are smart enough not to make stupid commands of the population.
But then Andrew got elected. He's looking more and more like a thug. And I'm reminded of Tony Soprano whenever I see Christie these days. He's looking crookeder as he gets thinner.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 27, 2015 05:03 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 05:03 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: dartist at January 27, 2015 05:04 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 05:05 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 05:05 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 05:00 PM (hX3bN)
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Actually, the "hook echo" was first noticed by military meteorologists at Tinker AFB after the 1947 (?) tornado that passed through there.
Gary just took that research and made it mainstream.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 05:05 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: dartist at January 27, 2015 05:04 PM (ahBY0)
And Dronegate, and Indiagate, and Saudigate....
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at January 27, 2015 05:05 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Eromero at January 27, 2015 05:06 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: Eric Clapton at January 27, 2015 05:06 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:06 PM (PuQW/)
Posted by: Buzzion at January 27, 2015 05:07 PM (z/Ubi)
Back in the 80s, I was "privileged" to be in the Christmas blizzard in Denver. They announced on the radio (& TV & in the newspapers) that anyone who went out in the snow & got their damned car stuck would be ticketed & towed to an impound lot. Don't get stuck? Nobody cares. Plenty of people learned a lesson that year, though I'm sure around 47% of them immediately forgot that lesson.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 05:07 PM (MbqmP)
I kinda like tornado pr0n. The photos of playing cards sticking out of tree trunks and documents found 160 miles away from touchdown, not the assholes sticking microphones in the faces of people who've just lost everything.
Nature is interesting.
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 05:07 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Wham at January 27, 2015 05:07 PM (NaV4z)
Even if the local authorities would say that, no one would listen to it. Many get in there cars and drive away anyway if they think they're in a tornado's path.
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Our local weather people tell you to go somewhere else if you are in trailer park and don't have a shelter.
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 05:08 PM (lIU4e)
But don't rule out malice.
Posted by: rankle at January 27, 2015 05:08 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 05:08 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 05:09 PM (2cS/G)
Well of course. But that has nothing to do with adding 30 inches of snow and high winds. The reason they do the driving and parking bans is because it is next to impossible to clean the streets in a big city with cars and people all over the road. Living in Texas that might now seem like a big deal to you but trust me it is for people who live and work in those cities.
Some of the stuff deBlasio and Cuomo were doing was dumb but thats because they are dumbasses who are more concerned with their image than actually doing anything useful. But I don't have a problem with a driving ban when they are trying to get the streets in usable condition.
Do they close the roads in Oklahoma or other tornado areas after a tornado tears up the road or do people just drive over the shit?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 05:09 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2015 05:09 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:02 PM (PuQW/)
"Pork pork pork pork pork pork pork pork..." --Drummer I knew back in KC after a lot of whiskey & LSD
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 05:09 PM (MbqmP)
It's all right...
It's all right...
... SNOWCAINE!!
Posted by: Eric Clapton
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Stay away from the cities
Stay from the towns
Stay away from the man pushing snowcaine around..
Posted by: Donovan at January 27, 2015 05:10 PM (l1zOH)
There was not consensus, but Ike gave the green light anyway.
Eisenhower's toenail clippings had more leadership in them than the current collective government of New York.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 05:10 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Moron in a Rainproof Snuggie at January 27, 2015 05:10 PM (Ks4nX)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 05:10 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 27, 2015 05:10 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: dartist at January 27, 2015 05:10 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 05:09 PM (g1DWB)
After a tornado??? yes... to fix it...
BEFORE the tornado??? uh.... no...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 05:10 PM (qh617)
Deep down Dems attribute their lies about Katrina to McCain losing in 2008.
Dems also know well just how easy manipulated their LIV base is.
They are terrified of the monsters they have created. All this weather madness is a result.
Posted by: Lankle at January 27, 2015 05:11 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: Former HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo at January 27, 2015 05:11 PM (FCsIb)
Posted by: Lea
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Apparently, mobile homes attract tornadoes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 05:11 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 05:08 PM (sj3Ax)
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I was wondering how you are doing, Carol.
Glad to see you're okay.
On the bright side...I'm sure your rose bushes are liking the snow blanket.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 05:11 PM (hX3bN)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 05:10 PM (7OF+y)
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57 here in Kansas City..... in Janurary.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2015 05:11 PM (NaV4z)
Katrina wasn't his fault. Every sane person knows that.
Emergency management and planning starts at the local level. The Katrina disaster belongs to city, parish, and state governments, who completely and utterly failed to respond. They own it.
Posted by: wisenheimer at January 27, 2015 05:12 PM (qnhj2)
It kept on grooving with some energy.
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 05:12 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: wisenheimer
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They refused Federal aid until they were knee-deep in shit.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 05:13 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 05:13 PM (2cS/G)
does jumping the shark apply here
U.S. EPA @EPA Jan 26
If the climate is changing, why all the snow? Learn more about the relationship between climate and weather here:
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/basics/facts.html
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2015 05:13 PM (IXrOn)
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You're comparing apples to bananas by bringing up Texas and Oklahoma vs NYC.
How does Cleveland handle snow? Or Buffalo? Syracuse? They're big-ish cities. They have a shit ton of snow every year thanks to lake effect. They're big cities and somehow manage to clear the snow and go about their business without shutting the city down every time a flurry is in the air.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 05:13 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:13 PM (PuQW/)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 05:13 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 05:14 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:14 PM (PuQW/)
Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2015 05:14 PM (TETYm)
The solution to this is so obvious. Set up an empty trailer park on the outskirts of town as a decoy.
Posted by: wisenheimer at January 27, 2015 05:14 PM (qnhj2)
Every snow has its horn...
Just like every night has its dawn.
New Yorks mayor... sings a sad sad song.....
Every snow has a horn.....
Posted by: POISON!! at January 27, 2015 05:14 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 05:14 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 05:07 PM (ZKzrr)
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Film or video doesn't do a tornado justice. Seeing the real thing makes one realize just how puny the human race really is. The whole atmosphere surrounding a tornadic event is a panorama of unimaginable power. It's quite exhilarating.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 05:14 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Darth Randall at January 27, 2015 05:15 PM (6n332)
When was the first time they just completely locked down a city on pain of arrest- because of weather that had not even developed yet?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2015 05:15 PM (wt/Oq)
what is this snow of which you speak
Posted by: sunny and 75 at January 27, 2015 05:15 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: dartist at January 27, 2015 05:10 PM (ahBY0)
_________
Because nobody smoked pot in Colorado before it became legal.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 05:15 PM (0LHZx)
As I said, deBlasio and Cuomo are dumbasses. Also I think its a lot harder to predict a tornado a day ahead but we saw this storm coming for days. I think a lot of this as a result of the storm that hit Western NY and Cuomo got caught totally off guard.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 05:15 PM (g1DWB)
Katrina wasn't his fault. Every sane person knows that.
Emergency management and planning starts at the local level. The Katrina disaster belongs to city, parish, and state governments, who completely and utterly failed to respond. They own it.
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Chocolate Town was predictable, but guessing the Governor would shoot craps with her own citizens for Dem politics, that was the surprise.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 05:15 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2015 05:15 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:16 PM (PuQW/)
I know this isn't Dildo's Hot Dog thread but...
who here is good at buying fresh chicken? Sometimes fresh chicken is pink; sometimes it's yellowish. Does it matter?
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-243 days left until climate chaos) at January 27, 2015 05:16 PM (q19mL)
Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2015 05:16 PM (TETYm)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2015 05:16 PM (DXzRD)
/been said before
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 05:16 PM (NaeCR)
I've been worried about the roses because we've had single digit temps & no snow. I won't know until April if they've lived through winter.
Thank you for your concern.
How are you?
Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 05:16 PM (sj3Ax)
Congratulations. That was the entire point.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 05:16 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 05:16 PM (MbqmP)
Here's what the right learned after Katrina: if they don't believe us at first, let's spend the next several days/weeks/months/years/decades trying to convince them with all the facts we can muster.
Guess which one is working better.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 05:17 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 05:09 PM (g1DWB)
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The debris closes the roads...so the officials are pretty much doing 'catchup' on what's going on.
For the first 24 hours or so, you're pretty much on your own.
People clear the roads themselves, in order to get to where they need to go...to, you know, check on others or get injured people to hospitals.
Within hours, you hear chainsaws running and see people using their trucks to pull trees off the roads.
There's a reason why so many people have pickups and utility vehicles here.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 05:17 PM (hX3bN)
Posted by: Lea
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Apparently, mobile homes attract tornadoes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
What do tornados and redneck divorces have in common?
Someone is gonaa lose a trailer.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 05:17 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: MTF at January 27, 2015 05:17 PM (FCsIb)
Posted by: Garrett at January 27, 2015 05:17 PM (bb0LB)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper
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Seems blustery ( 105 mph gusts), and colder (-5 deg) atop Mt. Washington. http://tinyurl.com/l5k4qvr
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 05:18 PM (l1zOH)
Let's ask the folks who worked at Audi of America back in the 80s...
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 05:18 PM (/jpU8)
Posted by: a forlorn snowman at January 27, 2015 05:18 PM (tdmtT)
The resulting depopulation has doomed most Dim pols
Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2015 05:18 PM (TETYm)
It's what we do.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 05:18 PM (LA7Cm)
I kinda like tornado pr0n. The photos of playing cards sticking out of tree trunks and documents found 160 miles away from touchdown, not the assholes sticking microphones in the faces of people who've just lost everything.
**************
We blow off most tornados but we had a huge one last year (?) in Vilonia, Mayflower and a few other places (it was on the ground for30sih miles?)- It was a 'high 4' and the first time I've ever seen our local news have a press conference for a tornado rating. There was nothing on the news for a week or two. Tornado's are amazing and furious and scary, all at the same time.
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 05:19 PM (lIU4e)
What do tornados and redneck divorces have in common?
blows real good then you lose your trailer
Posted by: kj at January 27, 2015 05:19 PM (lKyWE)
And everything would still look beige.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 27, 2015 05:19 PM (RZzX3)
It's still windy here but not as bad as earlier.
Fenelon,
I'm pretty good , older brother & my best friend are outside with snow blower & shovel.
Another storm with 5-6 inches later in the week.
Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 05:19 PM (sj3Ax)
Shit Moo, I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. You're not a hipster are you?
Posted by: dartist at January 27, 2015 05:20 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: Shep Smith at January 27, 2015 05:20 PM (bb0LB)
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 05:14 PM (/HX7u)
And if by "exhilarating" you mean "good thing it was raining so no one could tell I wet myself" then I totally agree.
Chocolate Town was predictable, but guessing the
Governor would shoot craps with her own citizens for Dem politics, that
was
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 27, 2015 05:15 PM (oDCMR)
FIFY.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 27, 2015 05:20 PM (6fyGz)
When I lived in Milwaukee they'd put plow blades on garbage trucks and send 'em out when the plow force wasn't big enough.
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 05:20 PM (ZKzrr)
How can you tell a tornado went through your trailer park?
The debris is all stacked neatly.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 05:21 PM (TOk1P)
Doing good, Carol. Thanks.
Been battling the flu, but other than that, fine.
It's 77 degrees here today...which is not necessarily a good thing.
This will get everything growing too soon, and will get nuked when winter comes back.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 05:21 PM (hX3bN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:21 PM (PuQW/)
It's science, but not an exact science.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at January 27, 2015 05:21 PM (zxQ4h)
Quite a few of them up here too. Trees come down in snow storms and hurricanes all the time. Lots of them also have plows cause snow.
Authorities tend to take a dim view of average citizens plowing the roads in big cities though.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 05:21 PM (g1DWB)
"Do they close the roads in Oklahoma or other tornado areas after a tornado tears up the road or do people just drive over the shit?"
The tornado herelast year went right over the freeway. Meaning the trees on either sidewerebroken in half and some buildings in pieces.As far as I know they didn't close it down, but there was heavy rubbernecking traffic for a week or two.
Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 05:21 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 05:18 PM (l1zOH)
So, a mild Summer day up there?
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:21 PM (PuQW/)
Hey! That's not nice! What did I ever do to you??? And how could you tell I was lurking?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (GEICT)
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I remember a story from a few years ago of some Type A Wall Street financier type who was on his honeymoon at a ritzy ski resort and decided to ski "off trail", because nobody's rules ever applied to him anywhere or anytime,
When his skiing "off-trail" took him "off-cliff" he had at least eight or nine seconds to ponder what a massive mistake his final one was.
The story was written so as to make the reader feel sorry about the tragedy and for the dead guy and his widow but it didn't take much dot connecting for any sympathy you might have briefly felt for the arrogant jerk to evaporate pretty fast.
Posted by: Lare at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (Xv7f/)
To continue the firearms analogy, "Ready, Fire, Aim" is his usual method of operation.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (KDbAT)
Same thing I guess.
Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (n2K+4)
319 By the way, while we in the northeast have a fake crisis to contend with, America as a whole is watching John Boehner and the Senate Good Government Chorus explicitly now say they won't shut down DHS, or probably even reduce its budget or outlaw the Obama crap sandwich (this according to AP at Hotgas).
Posted by: MTF at January 27, 2015 05:17 PM (FCsIb)
Yeah who didn't see that coming. It's like when have was getting upset at the shutdown over obamacare saying that the fight should be at the debt ceiling which would be happening a few weeks later. Yeah right they'll totally make a stand at the debt ceiling even though they'd caved every single other time on it before. But yeah this will be the time they make a stand!
Posted by: Buzzion at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 05:23 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Kanye West at January 27, 2015 05:23 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 05:23 PM (2cS/G)
Closing the roads after a tornado is pretty well the opposite of closing the roads *before* a snow storm.
I mean, I shouldn't even have to say that. That may be the most obtuse comparison I've seen on the HQ- and that's saying something.
No one would have complained if they had gotten 30" of snow, and then said, "Yeah... city's closed. Moose outside should have told you."
What they did was say, "City's closed, cause we're going to get snow! And it *might* be historic!"
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 05:23 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:24 PM (PuQW/)
Our daily visitor is here.
Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 05:24 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 05:24 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe MUMR at January 27, 2015 05:24 PM (qnhj2)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:25 PM (PuQW/)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 05:25 PM (l1zOH)
Our daily visitor is here.
Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 05:24 PM (sj3Ax)
When you see one of it's comments, just hit refresh. It'll either disappear or (better) turn into something really hilarious.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 05:25 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (l1zOH)
I recommend a 105mm howitzer this time.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 27, 2015 05:25 PM (RZzX3)
Except the roads weren't closed before. The storm had begun by 11 last night.
You're right, you didn't need to say it.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 05:25 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:25 PM (PuQW/)
Was kidding, Boss Man.
Random question, anybody else got a drink in hand yet?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2015 05:26 PM (GEICT)
financier type who was on his honeymoon at a ritzy ski resort and
decided to ski "off trail", because nobody's rules ever applied to him
anywhere or anytime,
Did he decide on his own, or did the widow not like the prenup and make a few suggestions?
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 05:26 PM (ZKzrr)
When his skiing "off-trail" took him "off-cliff" he had at least eight or nine seconds to ponder what a massive mistake his final one was. "
Whoops. That reminds me. I was reading about the avalanche that killed all those ski executives on Loveland Pass a while back.
Nothing about that story makes sense. The avalanche forecast warned of the exact scenario that they skied right in to, and they weren't using any of their safety equipment. Also, from what I understand, that entire section off the parking area was terribly risky, so why put a parking lot there?
What is going on out there?
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 05:26 PM (MYCIw)
You'll excuse me if I choose not to avail myself of the experience.
Such a cruel joke in Alabama, prone to tornados, water table too shallow for basements...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at January 27, 2015 05:26 PM (DT3rQ)
Yeah yeah we know you're on your knees every day terrified and weeping. Begging for another chance to f up.
How's those knee pads working for ya?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe MUMR at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (qnhj2)
Posted by: overexcited weatherman listening to the Beastie Boys at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (tdmtT)
Posted by: steevy at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (v5UtH)
tornado tears up the road or do people just drive over the shit?<<
Hey, remember after the deadly tornadoes a couple years ago in Oklahoma and Kansas, the lib talking heads on CNN, et al , tsk tsking and shaking their fingers at people who live in tornado alley? People shouldn't live there because of the risk, they said.
Well, then, people shouldn't live in Boston or NYC because of the risk of hurricaine flooding and blizzards. So, media idiots, take your own medicine and MOVE.
Posted by: Sphynx at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (OZmbA)
The solution it seems to me is to eradicate all moisture when the temp is at freezing point...
//Neil Degrasse-Tyson
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (/4AZU)
333 How does Cleveland handle snow? Or Buffalo? Syracuse? They're big-ish cities.
When I lived in Milwaukee they'd put plow blades on garbage trucks and send 'em out when the plow force wasn't big enough.
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass at January 27, 2015 05:20 PM (ZKzrr)
And I don't know about Cleveland but Toledo has notices up on many streets announcing that when it snows you'd better not have your vehicle parked on the street or you'll be in trouble or SOL when a snow plow comes through and damages it. But then again the original comment was by moo moo who doesn't actually know or give a shit about what these cities might actually have as procedures in a snow emergency. He just needs to be a smug superior dickhead and tell others that they're doing it wrong.
Posted by: Buzzion at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:28 PM (PuQW/)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe MUMR at January 27, 2015 05:28 PM (qnhj2)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (/jpU
*clink*
*peers*
Whatcha got?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2015 05:28 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Bosk at January 27, 2015 05:22 PM (n2K+4)
They're both pissing into the wind?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 27, 2015 05:28 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: CM at January 27, 2015 05:29 PM (0NdlF)
That would be the storm that dropped 5 - 6 inches instead of the predicted 30, yes?
And the *decision* to close the roads occurred well before that, yes? Especially the decision to close the subway was made before it was actually necessary (since, as it turned out, it was never necessary).
There is so much daylight between "closing a road *after* a tornado" and "closing a rode before (or even during) a snowstorm" that I'm not sure how you got there, except that you're trying to be obtuse.
The decision should never have been made. The roads in NYC should never have been closed. Certainly the subway should not have been. Trying to liken them in any way to the way in which OK or TX handles tornadoes is... silly.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 05:29 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 05:29 PM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:28 PM (PuQW/)
Very kind of you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2015 05:29 PM (GEICT)
You'll excuse me if I choose not to avail myself of the experience.
Such a cruel joke in Alabama, prone to tornados, water table too shallow for basements...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at January 27, 2015 05:26 PM (DT3rQ)
God: I'll tell you the same thing I told California: I do not give one tenth of one crap about your city planning.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 27, 2015 05:29 PM (wt/Oq)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 05:29 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 05:24 PM (PuQW/)
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Though it snows and blowing on a deep dark night....
I can see paradise by the dashboard lights.....
Posted by: Meatloaf at January 27, 2015 05:29 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Kanye West
***
LOL. Excellent. When West said that, he was standing next to Mike Myers. I will never forget the look on Myers' face. He was like, Whoa....WTF was that ? Who the hell landed me next to the bi-polar black dude? .
Posted by: Remo at January 27, 2015 05:30 PM (Xv7f/)
Make a little birdhouse in your soul.
Posted by: Mirror-Universe MUMR at January 27, 2015 05:24 PM (qnhj2)
Desmond has a barrow in the marketplace.
Posted by: Mirror-Universe MUMR at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (qnhj2)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 05:30 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Nurse Ratchet with huge empty hypodermic needle at January 27, 2015 05:30 PM (zxQ4h)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 05:29 PM (/jpU
Not nearly as classy.
I had a little tequila rattling around in the fridge, so I took care of that. Now sipping on the same thing I was during the podcast last night. "VooDoo". Vodka/Mtn Dew.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2015 05:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 -
I would. But I'm afraid I might hit a pothole and spill it.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 05:31 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: mikesixes at January 27, 2015 05:31 PM (L65WS)
First, Jonathan Chait? In taking any note of that idiot whatsoever, ace is punching down so far he'll need a fathometer to measure the distance. Would get an equally intelligent - and American - comment from some illiterate illegal hanging out at the Home Depot parking lot.
Second, to have an America that means something, that means what it did most of its history, one ingredient cannot be missing: Americans. Not birth or naturalization documents - mindset.
See much of that mindset any more? Sure, it's abundant in certain regions, and among certain self-selected sub-groups (military, others). But generally? Does it "inform" pop culture, media, education ...... OK I'll stop. Obviously quite the contrary.
Americans - as historically and meaningfully defined - would not put up with much of what we now see, suffer, and decry daily. And it's going to get worse, and there is nothing you can do about it. See elections, mid-term, 2nd greatest blowout in US history, and their likely import. Not much.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2015 05:31 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Buzzion at January 27, 2015 05:27 PM (z/Ubi)
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Not really. I was pointing out that in those and many other cities, they deal with snow just fine, without all the drama and hyperventilating of NYC/Boston/DC. You knew that.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 05:32 PM (0LHZx)
Syracuse? They're big-ish cities. They have a shit ton of snow every
year thanks to lake effect. They're big cities and somehow manage to
clear the snow and go about their business without shutting the city
down every time a flurry is in the air.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 05:13 PM (0LHZx)"
Is that still true? It used to be true but by now we have had two or maybe three generations where anybody in those areas who wants to work moves south to where the jobs are. If you do that long enough, you are going to start getting the Idiocracy effect.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 27, 2015 05:32 PM (KDbAT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 -
I would. But I'm afraid I might hit a pothole and spill it.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 05:31 PM (7OF+y)
It's pretty tricky to feel up that scrawny dishwater blonde in the passenger seat who's not your wife, drive, text, & drink beer all at the same time.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 05:33 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Mickey Lolich at January 27, 2015 05:33 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 05:33 PM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 05:33 PM (MbqmP)
Holy shit. Tiger Woods comments here???!?!?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2015 05:33 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Kanye West at January 27, 2015 05:23 PM (OZmbA)
It was Mike Myers if I remember correctly and the discomfort on his face was hilarious.
I wonder what would happen if it was some white celebrity that said President Obama hates white people?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2015 05:33 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 05:34 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 27, 2015 05:34 PM (onnpB)
Of course they overreacted. Nobody has said they didn't. But putting bans on cars in major northern cities after a storm, which is what I have been talking about, to assist in the clean up is and has been SOP for decades. You can think its silly but until you haven't lived through it I don't think you have a very good perspective of what a mess it is.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 05:34 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 05:33 PM (/jpU
Yeah, my mom and her friends, who all live in houses/a neighborhood that most of us can't afford, drink some crap that's sold by the gallon.
You're drinking 1%er stuff from where I'm sitting.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2015 05:35 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mediocre Meterologist at January 27, 2015 05:35 PM (VAsIq)
I'm sorry you have been battling the flu. Are you getting over it?
Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 05:35 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at January 27, 2015 05:26 PM (DT3rQ)
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Stay aware of the weather. And, yes, that even means at night. If one hears thunder at night during tornado season, turn on the tv and get some weather updates. If you feel your in the path, gather your survival kit together, grab whoever (including pets) you wish to bring, get in your car and travel at right angles to the direction of the approaching storm.
But it does take awareness, and a little bit of weather knowledge.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 05:36 PM (/HX7u)
I try to keep it to red lights. Honest.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 05:36 PM (7OF+y)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 05:37 PM (7OF+y)
Not going to happen. See new thread, above.
"You're drinking 1%er stuff from where I'm sitting"
*tries to pour thru USB*
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 05:38 PM (/jpU8)
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Yeah, finally seem to be cycling out of it. Thanks.
This was one of those bugs that kept coming back.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 05:43 PM (hX3bN)
Growing up in NYC we NEVER shutdown transit. Ever. It was a matter of pride. You never let mother nature beat you. Now these nouveau fascists are trying to condition us to be helpless and submissive.
Posted by: Iblis at January 27, 2015 05:48 PM (G0j9g)
Buzzion and MTF, you guys just have to get smarter about how our system of govt. works. When one party has both houses, and other party has the WH, and is pursuing unconstitutional, wildly unpopular and destructive policies, Congress has no options and must just go along.
Any attempt to exercise the primary congressional power of appropriations is now doomed to failure. The executive merely needs to "shut down the government" and the congressional opposition must fold or suffer irreversible political damage. Well - if the president happens to be a failed, unpopular, weak, lame-duck president, and a Democrat. These conditions render him essentially all-powerful.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2015 05:48 PM (afQnV)
Back in my day, we had to walk to school, uphill, both ways.
No seriously, I lived in the exurbs north of Phila. from about 1978-1988 as a tween and teen, and remember lots of big snow. We were late for school, a lot, because we had to shovel prodigious quantities of snow (and the school knew it, so started late) since the town would fine you if you didn't have your sidewalk shoveled in 24 hours - and since the snowplow pushed hard, frozen snow boulders into the foot of everyone's driveway. And back in my day, kids were their parents' free labor, not pampered special snowflakes. We shoveled our own drives and walks, then our parents sent us over to all the old people's houses to shovel for them too (and we weren't allowed to accept anymoney from them either).
And just to cap off the "get off my lawn" story, I remember when the northeast WAS actually cold, and you could ice skate on the Delaware Canal from Washington Crossing to points north, if you had a mind to (I never made it farther than New Hope, about 5 miles... yeah, me and Hans Brinker...).These losers kvetching over even 2 feet of snow are a bunch of f*^king pansies. Try the winter of 1981 or thereaboutson for size, pussies.
Posted by: the other coyote at January 27, 2015 05:52 PM (yK44T)
That's what we've lost in the last 35 years...
"I am absolutely positively not going to let this fucking storm keep me from my task"
THAT was the mark of adult versus kid back then....
The idea what we did was important enough to see it done.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 05:53 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2015 05:54 PM (SKkpn)
I wish you'd told my son before he got a B on the lit exam....
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 05:55 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: HR, staring sadly at the grass
The new thing this year in Columbus was that the garbage truck drivers were cross-trained to drive the snow plows. So now, when you see them parked at McDonalds, there are two guys in the cab sleeping.
I lived in Cleveland for a while, and if you got up to 15 inches in a night, it would usually take about a day of plowing to get back to normal. Things would be moving the next morning, but a lot of roads would not be plowed yet.
If you had a long driveway, you also usually hired a guy to plow it before sunup, so that you could get your car out of the garage. Out east in the snowbelt, they will get huge amounts of snow some days (30-40 inches). It is sometime awesomfully beautiful.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... pretending to be someone else at January 27, 2015 05:56 PM (RFeQD)
@414
We got some ridiculous snow and ice in N. Dallas last year, and the whole time, I only saw one guy from the city out. He had a half-assedUTV- sized blade mounted (crooked, no less) on a garbage truck - and he didn't even have it down.
So thankful I picked Grandpa's pick-up mounted snowplow out of all of his boy toys back when I got my pick from the estate.
Posted by: the other coyote at January 27, 2015 06:06 PM (yK44T)
I know this is dead thread but I read your response.
Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 06:19 PM (sj3Ax)
You'll make so much money you can buy lots of fitbit thingies and home gym gear and instead of feeling at least good every day you'll start feeling great every day.
Do it for yourself. Do it for us.
Posted by: Yojimbo at January 27, 2015 06:23 PM (z90Zx)
Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at January 27, 2015 06:54 PM (kHv/o)
This time the spectral evidence is real, but can only be seen by the witches; and, the witches are real; but this time they are in CHARGE.
For the allegory, the witches are real communists, but that was true in the original, they were just whining then because everybody could see through their illusions.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 07:52 PM (NaeCR)
I think that you're being way to hard on Governor Cuomo. I don't think his problem is so much political as ethnic. Back in Cat'lic school, in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s, I learnt that wit' dem Eye-talians, what ain't a op'ra is a vendetta.
Posted by: 11B40 at January 27, 2015 08:27 PM (yMbU8)
FIFY
Seriously, imagine Cream without Ginger Baker or the Allman Brothers without Butch and Jaimo.
Posted by: Cowboyneal at January 27, 2015 10:20 PM (q4id9)
Posted by: red speck at January 28, 2015 09:33 AM (9/Ug/)
Posted by: iowaan at January 28, 2015 11:47 AM (hXclJ)
Brendan "weather nerd" or whatever his name is that Instapundit links to all the time is an egregious case of this. I never read a single thing from him that was actually worth the time.
Posted by: Rollory at January 29, 2015 06:44 AM (z2L/U)
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