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The Triumphant Return of DOOM
It turns out that black homeowners were much like their white peers during the housing bubble, in that they tended to buy too much house (due to artificially low interest rates) and then got themselves deeper into a hole by refinancing their homes via option-ARMs and other loans that they didn't understand very well. Plenty of nonblack Americans can commisserate with this particular tale.
Michael Fletcher, the writer of the piece, strains mightily to frame the story as an example of institutionalized racism, but if you read closely you simply see the same pathologies that other homeowners fell into during the bubble. Buying at the wrong time in the wrong place, failing to account for local real-estate market valuations (location, location, location), taking on too much mortgage, and then using the house as an ATM on the assumption that the value of the property will continue to go up indefinitely. This is not a tale of racism; it's a tale of how financial foolishness and bad decision-making transcends class and skin color. It is true that even middle-class black families often operate on a thinner financial "cushion" than their white counterparts, but this is often true due to cultural issues liberals would prefer not to talk about. The main one being the collapse of the two-parent family in many black communities. Single-parent families are at greater financial risk in many ways, and a mortgage weighs heavily on a single wage-earner regardless of race -- and there is added pressure in that single parents have to carry the weight of, e.g., childcare and transportation as well as housing and other living costs. Then there is the fact that black Americans are disproportionately represented in the public-sector workforce, and this sector has been on an almost zero-growth trajectory since the Great Recession. If you look past the facile white-racism frame of the story, what you see instead is a tale of basic human frailty during an economic bubble, and the unintended consequences of bad government policy going back for decades. And finally...can we dispense with the "death of the American dream" agonals, already? This shtick has been going on for fifty years. It's old and broke and needs to be sent to the glue factory where it can be put out of its misery. In other news, it turns out that I wasn't being paranoid -- His Majesty the King really does want you to stop saving money. We understand the truth of Milton Friedman's aphorism that if you want more of something, you subsidize it, and if you want less of something, you tax it. Therefore, we must assume that the King and his ministers want their subjects to save less and spend their money on booze and hookers instead. (I mean, I was planning on doing that anyway, but it's nice to know I was ahead of the curve on that one.) By the way, my new retirement strategy has shifted to capering for nickels on the boardwalk while tourists point and laugh. If you see me in my dotage attempting to dance a merry jig on my poor arthritic legs, please spare a few pieces of coin. Otherwise, all I might have to sup on is the burnt ashes of my dreams, moistened with my own bitter tears. But hey! Everything isn't going to shit. Why, look at how great the Greeks are doing in their effort to pay down their debts and re-integrate back into the Eurozone! ...oh, wait. Is Greece's catastrophic dalliance with the Eurozone about to come to an end? It certainly seems as though the victory of the left-wing Syriza party in the recent Greek elections portends -- finally and at long last -- a Greek exit from the Euro. Greece has groaned under a fiscal policy imposed on it by the so-called "Troika" for three years now as a condition of their last bailout, with the result that the chronically weak Greek economy has become all but moribund. It is mired in a deep depression, with unemployment currently running above 25%. Greeks are clearly tired of paying back loans they squandered long ago. It's like a kid having to continue to pay for a toy he's already broken. The Greeks basically lied their way into the Eurozone to begin with, racked up huge debts, and utterly failed to reform their backward, Statist economy. But they were able to stay ahead of the wolves for a decade or so, until the Great Downturn of 2008 came along and brought the whole farce to a crashing halt. And it may not be over yet. I have been surprised time and time again by the ability of even the most bankrupt and hopeless financial basket cases of the world to keep soldiering on even when all hope is lost. One might be tempted to call this the triumph of hope over experience, but "hope" isnt't the word I'd choose. A better word is "desperation". Greece may yet look into the abyss, blink, and step back; or they may be "persuaded" to continue along their ruinous economic track by angry German taxpayers and bondholders who loaned Greece a pile of money. Luckily, all is not lost. Our moral and ethical betters have gathered in Davos to light their cigars with hundred-dollar bills while mocking the tubercular bootblack who's been pressed into service to keep their shoes looking spiffy while they chat and laugh and eat lobster canapes. Oh, wait, I read that wrong, sorry. They're in Davos to discuss the pressing problem of Global Warming(tm). Because they're so concerned about Global Warming(tm) that they felt compelled to fly their private jets to an upscale enclave in the Swiss Alps to talk about it. While making fun of the tubercular bootblack who's spit-shining their wingtips. Don't get me wrong - I'm a big believer in ostentatious displays of wealth. If I had the money, I'd build a hundred-foot-high statue of myself made out of pure platinum and then hire homeless people to worship at it for no fewer than eight hours per day. (I'd pay them a fair wage, though. What's the going rate for abject obeisance to a living God? I'll have to look it up.) But this Davos thing is just...rank. It's a collection of rich fart-sniffers who want to congratulate each other on how socially conscious they are, and how much they care about the Little People. (Except the tubercular bootblack, whom they often kick with their rich-guy shoes.) Also...Illinois is boned. California is boned. And Detroit...well, Detroit passed "boned" a long time ago. At this point it's just vultures picking at the bleaching skeleton. The financial press promotes economic illiteracy. I've never been impressed by finance journos as a group, though there are some splendid ones out there. The canard about falling prices being a horrible sign is a good point -- deflation is not, a priori, a bad thing. Sometimes it is necessary, when -- as now -- we are trying to deflate an asset bubble.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at January 26, 2015 08:54 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: HoboJerk, The State Loves You at January 26, 2015 08:54 AM (FA3Z7)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at January 26, 2015 08:54 AM (1BQGO)
"need" is a stretch, but I see no reason why poaching the best and brightest is a bad idea. (I speak from CS land where there is a shortage of workers)
Posted by: HoboJerk, The State Loves You at January 26, 2015 08:54 AM (FA3Z7)
ask Grease and their new commie movement how long the Germanics foot their bill.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 08:56 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 08:58 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 08:58 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: jjod at January 26, 2015 08:59 AM (0r7PZ)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 26, 2015 08:59 AM (knoK7)
Posted by: EC at January 26, 2015 08:59 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:00 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: HoboJerk, The State Loves You at January 26, 2015 09:01 AM (FA3Z7)
Those H1b lads and lasses were getting too expensive...time to churn the butter again....
//IBM-Isadora Beatrice Michaels
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:02 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 26, 2015 09:02 AM (Z8DIA)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2015 09:03 AM (g1DWB)
You're a racist.
And a luddite if you don't understand that if Silicon Valley collaborates to depress wages...IT'S DIFFERENT.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 26, 2015 09:03 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Spock at January 26, 2015 09:03 AM (XzRw1)
Posted by: alexthechick at January 26, 2015 09:03 AM (YmMGN)
Posted by: doc at January 26, 2015 09:04 AM (xRTNW)
That one sentence reveals a whole lot of what is preventing a change in government.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 26, 2015 09:05 AM (fL+1V)
The headlines on the major papers the next day:
Wall Street Journal: "Financial Analysis of God's Decree"
USA Today: "We're Gone!"
Washington Post: "World to End Tomorrow, Minorities Hardest Hit."
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 09:05 AM (PFy0L)
//IBM-Isadora Beatrice Michaels
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:02 AM (/4AZU)
I mean they're smart(the ones I know), just means they'll have to quickly get sponsored by another company to stay here.
Posted by: HoboJerk, The State Loves You at January 26, 2015 09:06 AM (FA3Z7)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2015 09:06 AM (028dR)
Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2015 09:06 AM (wlDny)
That one sentence reveals a whole lot of what is preventing a change in government.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 26, 2015 09:05 AM (fL+1V)
Affirmative Action and race quotas FTW!
Posted by: EC at January 26, 2015 09:06 AM (GQ8sn)
Davos has plenty, peeel-enty of undecapitated heads floating around it this time of year.
Rumor is...that these undecapitated heads mock the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) every single day!
Or so I've heard...
Posted by: naturalfake at January 26, 2015 09:06 AM (KBvAm)
Today is the 135th anniversary of the birth of American five-star general Douglas MacArthur 1880-1964) in Little Rock, Arkansas, the son of prominent General Arthur MacArthur (1845-1912), who was awarded the Medal of Honor during the Civil War and later served as military governor of the Philippines (1900-1901) and Army chief of staff.
"The unfailing formula for production of morale is patriotism, self-respect, discipline, and self confidence within a military unit, joined with fair treatment and merited appreciation from without... It will quickly wither and die if the soldiers come to believe themselves the victims of indifference or injustice on the part of their government, or of ignorance, personal ambition, or ineptitude on the part of their military leaders."
- General Douglas MacArthur (Annual Report of the Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army for the Fiscal Year Ending 30 June 1933)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 09:06 AM (vPh3W)
Posted by: dissent555 at January 26, 2015 09:07 AM (yR6A1)
Subsequent loads during the browser session don't do the redirect.
Started doing it last night.
For what it's worth.
Posted by: filbert at January 26, 2015 09:07 AM (h6Mpm)
Posted by: MTF at January 26, 2015 09:07 AM (FCsIb)
If you're here, yes we would rescue you before the glacier sets in.
Hell, when we all move to Alextopie, it would be good to have a dentist that takes the AoSHQ Dental Plan.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 26, 2015 09:07 AM (fL+1V)
You mean having a workforce have double the statistical representation that is a 95% block voting machine could be defacto patronage that is protected by the US Civil Service act from churning?
Nah couldn't be....
"ropes and chains"
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:08 AM (/4AZU)
Affirmative Action and race quotas FTW!
Posted by: EC at January 26, 2015 09:06 AM (GQ8sn)
Peruvia is a color blind society. And Kaboom is the national cereal. It does have it's drawbacks.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2015 09:08 AM (028dR)
Wait I'm sorry, the media says he's just "anti-austerity".
Of course, they also call him the "Greek Che".
Good times ahead!
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 26, 2015 09:08 AM (ZPrif)
I saw Tubercular Bootblack open for Deep Purple at Montreux on the Lake Geneva shoreline in '72.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at January 26, 2015 09:08 AM (bWFHa)
Posted by: Paladin at January 26, 2015 09:08 AM (+Wvn3)
$15 an hour if you build it in Seattle. Unless you hire illegals, of course.
Posted by: Anachronda at January 26, 2015 09:09 AM (o78gS)
His Majesty the King really does want you to stop saving money.
Once you've hit your fiscal capacity to tax the rich, a few big sources of tax revenue are left: 1) A value-added tax.
"Moving to a consumption-based system is something which is very attractive to me philosophically"
Mitt "Severely Conservative" Romney
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 26, 2015 09:09 AM (kdS6q)
The Chinese words for "broken teeth" and opportunity are the same...
//Peruvian Denture Makers Local 957
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:09 AM (/4AZU)
You mean having a workforce have double the statistical representation that is a 95% block voting machine could be defacto patronage that is protected by the US Civil Service act from churning?
Nah couldn't be....
"ropes and chains"
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at Januar
So they lead the way in prison population and civil service population. Interesting.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2015 09:10 AM (028dR)
Posted by: Monty at January 26, 2015 09:10 AM (qEHOe)
Posted by: filbert at January 26, 2015 09:11 AM (h6Mpm)
Posted by: MTF at January 26, 2015 09:11 AM (FCsIb)
Very similar skill sets in professional use in both camps I'd wager.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:11 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Monty at January 26, 2015 09:10 AM (qEHOe
Monday morning jitters. Or your spell check is broke.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2015 09:11 AM (028dR)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 26, 2015 09:12 AM (fL+1V)
Who's this "we" kemo sabe?
Posted by: Janet Yellen at January 26, 2015 09:12 AM (SGtBn)
Of course, they also call him the "Greek Che".
Good times ahead!
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 26, 2015 09:08 AM (ZPrif)
His slogan is:
Shots! Shots! Shots-Shots!
Of course, he means head shots.
But still...
Shots!
Posted by: naturalfake at January 26, 2015 09:12 AM (KBvAm)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at January 26, 2015 09:13 AM (bWFHa)
Posted by: dissent555 at January 26, 2015 09:13 AM (yR6A1)
Dear uncle Jan....
I am wondering if your defacto reduction of US base pruchasing power per $ is not in fact deflationary pressure in a funhouse mirror...
if it takes more clown bucks to buy a loaf of bread forever but you raise minimum wage to give me more clown bucks to buy have we not deflated in a way?
//Confused at 1600 PA ave
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:13 AM (/4AZU)
"Moving to a consumption-based system is something which is very attractive to me philosophically"
Well then, I'm ahead of the curve.
Posted by: Tubercular Bootblack at January 26, 2015 09:14 AM (knoK7)
Can somebody remind me why we need more H1B visas?
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at January 26, 2015 08:54 AM (1BQGO)
"need" is a stretch, but I see no reason why poaching the best and
brightest is a bad idea. (I speak from CS land where there is a shortage
of workers WILLING TO WORK FOR $8.00 an HOUR)
Posted by: HoboJerk, The State Loves You at January 26, 2015 08:54 AM (FA3Z7)
FIFY
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 09:14 AM (KDbAT)
An average of 240,000 jobs per month created for a total of 3 million last year.
The stock market at all time highs.
The auto industry is booming.
Unemployment down to 5.6%.
Gas is cheap again.
Yup real doom.
Seriously, does anyone here live in reality?
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:14 AM (+me+d)
That one sentence reveals a whole lot of what is preventing a change in government.
That one sentence explains why my boss can say - in HR diversity training - "I can't call people crackers?" and mean it, and have nothing happen.
It explains why she can target, specifically, white males, do everything she can to end their careers (such as the equivalent of lawfare, by writing individuals up for everything on the sun and seeing what sticks).
It explains why she has received 6 of the 9 total EEO complaints filed against the entire Department over the past few years.
And no one can touch her because she checks two boxes on the 'diversity' checklist.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:15 AM (fwARV)
I have found that no issue ever escapes the broad brush of racism. Too many shysters make their living blaming everything on racism. Yes we do have racism in America, It is just on the black race baiters that it is found.
Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2015 09:15 AM (wlDny)
That guy was funny, though not as funny as Dieter in VSE support out of Deutschland.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:15 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: dissent555 at January 26, 2015 09:15 AM (yR6A1)
fairtax.org
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 26, 2015 09:16 AM (2Ayux)
Obamas approvals are in the upper 40's and lower 50's.
The America are buying this doom garbage conservatives are pushing.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:16 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Monty at January 26, 2015 09:17 AM (qEHOe)
Each of your talking points has been debunked in these pages.
So the only person around here refusing to accept reality...is you.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 09:17 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: rickb223 - ODD at January 26, 2015 09:17 AM (TAu/7)
"We've turned a corner" means when Ogabe gets gas prices up again with his horsefuckery, and he will, that he owns the downturn comrade.
Go fuck a chainsaw.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:17 AM (/4AZU)
Please conservatives are just as big of race hustlers as Sharpton.
You are an outright klansmen.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:18 AM (+me+d)
mired in a deep depression, with unemployment currently running above
25%.
That isn't much higher than our real unemployment. If you believe the lying liars in our current dictatorship you are stupid.
Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2015 09:18 AM (wlDny)
Polaroid and Kodak come to mind. Who would have thought in the 50's Kodak would go bankrupt?
SAS started up in the 70's now probably has more revenue than IBM.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 09:19 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:14 AM (+me+d)
Have some reality, courtesy of ABC News.
The national unemployment rate was 5.6 percent in December, lower than at any other point in Obama's presidency. But the December figure is closer to 11 percent when factoring in "marginally attached workers," including discouraged and part-time workers who would prefer full-time work. That rate, known as the U-6, is still higher than pre-recession levels. Another key measure of the economy's strength, the labor force participation rate, stood at 62.7 percent at the last job report -- down from 65.8 percent at the same point six years ago.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:19 AM (fwARV)
Good morning Sven!
What downturn?
I guess you are ignoring the economic stats and his approval numbers.
Get out of your bubble and enter reality.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:19 AM (+me+d)
Yector thinks that b/c Leon cut a glory hole on the OTHER side of his stall there's a booming economy instead of just more part-time work and productivity gains.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:19 AM (/4AZU)
Basically, so the billionaires can keep funding the Democrat party's economic suicide policies
that make it hard for American companies to compete globally.
So, in an effort to stay competitive, they want to cut your middle class salary-
cuz you have too much stuff,
and are greedy and all.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 26, 2015 09:20 AM (KBvAm)
U6 is always higher than the established numbers.
Say what you want, Obama has kicked Bush's ass on job creation.
Those are the facts.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:20 AM (+me+d)
I mean, when everyone around you is poor, who do you go out and conquer and demand tribute from? So Thunderdome must be right around the corner then.
Posted by: dissent555 at January 26, 2015 09:20 AM (yR6A1)
Posted by: Monty at January 26, 2015 09:21 AM (qEHOe)
Yector Giggles being able to string two decent quarters together in six years does not a downturn undo...
when you can explain Ogabe's U6 "success" get back to me until then get your shine box or your kneepads...
Leon gave you a spare service window.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:21 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Progtard 2000 at January 26, 2015 09:21 AM (ZPrif)
(+me+d) is just The Glitch - the spasmodic contents of its postings are documented to have caused epileptic fits.
Pay it no mind.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at January 26, 2015 09:21 AM (bWFHa)
Posted by: ginaswo at January 26, 2015 09:21 AM (2EgyQ)
I just plan on dying at work. Maybe my company-funded life insurance policy will set my young progeny up for something other than cubicle drudgery.
Just got back inside from shoveling some Mother Nature Doom out here in the 'burbs of East Pittsburgh.
Bring it on, SNOD! I laugh at your puny efforts!
Posted by: NoLongerintheBellyoftheBeast at January 26, 2015 09:22 AM (D/mKE)
Posted by: dissent555 at January 26, 2015 09:22 AM (yR6A1)
Say what you want, Obama has kicked Bush's ass on job creation.
Those are the facts.
---
I laugh at you.
What's the labor force participation rate today? What was it 7 years ago?
Yep.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 09:22 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Bruce at January 26, 2015 09:22 AM (8ikIW)
You live in a fantasy world old man.
America is booming economically.
That's why Obama's approvals are up.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:22 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: EC at January 26, 2015 09:23 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:23 AM (kff5f)
Those are the facts.
Please explain the labor force participation rate relative to 2008.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:23 AM (fwARV)
I am a firm believer in trying to undo the pain of human sex trafficking...
Yector needs a safehouse.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:23 AM (/4AZU)
Labor force participation has been going down since 2000.
Who had better job creation numbers, Obama or Bush?
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:23 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Fritz at January 26, 2015 09:23 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:23 AM (kff5f)
Especially after the EU tells them to sod off?
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 26, 2015 09:24 AM (A98Xu)
It'll only take one decade to see us fully into the crapper, less than that if we get Hillary or Warren in '16 .
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 26, 2015 09:24 AM (Z8DIA)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at January 26, 2015 08:54 AM (1BQGO
Asian Nurses for the win!
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid: Not a Notre Doom fan at January 26, 2015 09:24 AM (uSAVP)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:14 AM (+me+d)
Hey, fellow do you know about the decline in job participation? It's the LOWEST number of working men as a % of the population, EVAH! Quoting an unemployment rate that is fake, still makes it fake. HELLO?
I guess that's not party of the "party" talking points. I didn't bring up the national debt, I know that would confuse you.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 09:24 AM (0FSuD)
Meanwhile, since it's'a gonna burn anyhoo, pass the matches, I'm going to try to write my name in the smoldering corpses of the fallen...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at January 26, 2015 09:24 AM (DT3rQ)
Yector needs a safehouse.
Third stall on the left at the Pilot Truck Stop?
Posted by: rickb223 - ODD at January 26, 2015 09:25 AM (TAu/7)
Labor force participation has been going down since 2000.
The baby boomers Re retiring, that's why the rate has declined.
Who had better job creation numbers, Bush or Obama?
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:25 AM (+me+d)
Yector thinks the millions who have fallen into long-term unemployment are "millions hired"....
Never forget we are essentially dealing with either asn unfair bargainer, or a person who thinks you can spend as much as you want b/c after all the checkbook still has checks in it...
at either rate fifteen words offered seriously to him a day is 13 too many.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:25 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:25 AM (evdj2)
Look at Bush's job creation numbers vs Obama.
Which one had better numbers?
Be brave and look.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:26 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Hello, I'm Math... and I am one heartless bitch(TM) at January 26, 2015 09:26 AM (bWFHa)
@80
Labor force participation has been going down since 2000.
Who had better job creation numbers, Obama or Bush?
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:23 AM (+me+d)
Labor force participation has been going down since 2000.
HORSESHIT
Remind me who DOUBLED the national debt? Trying to remember was that Bush? No some other guy named Hussein or something.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 09:27 AM (0FSuD)
That's why Obama's approvals are up.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:22 AM (+me+d)
Booming - 11% unemployment. 2,000,000 manufacturing jobs still gone. Lowest labor-force participation rate in a generation. The jobs that have come back are all low-paying jobs (remember when you condemned the 'jobless recovery' in 2006?).
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:27 AM (fwARV)
Frankly, we'll be fortunate (I guess) to get through this decade regardless before this entire house of cards falls down. Once the USD swirls the bowl (and it will, it's just the prettiest horse in the glue factory) then true rebuilding of economies and societies can start.
At that point, BS government-manufactured numbers like "GDP" and "U-3/U-6" won't matter and those producing them will be in serious danger of becoming strange fruit.
Posted by: DocJ at January 26, 2015 09:27 AM (zrsn3)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:27 AM (kff5f)
so this is all just the boomers retiring eh Yector?
Really?
If Bush had a lower U3 AND U6 for the span of his presidency he did not have to "create" as many "jobs" by flushing folks into U6...
again...chainsaw...your groin some assembly required.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:27 AM (/4AZU)
The US Dept of Labor defines the middle class as annual household taxable income of between $95,000 - $140,000 per year.
That's a LOT of money, and with wages mostly stagnant for the last decade, no wonder it's shrinking. I can see two incomes breaking into the middle class relatively easily, but a single income makes it very difficult to break into the statistical middle class.
The "Lower Middle Class" is defined as $50k - $100k.
Posted by: Dax at January 26, 2015 09:27 AM (5ITGo)
The baby boomers Re retiring, that's why the rate has declined.
Who had better job creation numbers, Bush or Obama?
---
The labor force participation rate already accounts for retirees.
So it's simple math...can't have more job creation with a declining participation rate.
And jobs that have been "created" over the past six years largely come from the public sector anyway. So there's that.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 09:27 AM (PFy0L)
Obama has a better economy than Bush's.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:27 AM (+me+d)
doom...
hector the syphilitic goat rapist...
Yup, it's Monday. I'm going back to bed.
Posted by: fairweatherbill holding dominion over the nether regions at January 26, 2015 09:27 AM (hcW+E)
Rand Paul is wrong about lots of things, but he is right that there really is an opportunity for Republicans to reach out to blacks and say what we've done to "help" you all this time Has Not Helped.
Time to try something different. Let freedom ring.
Posted by: filbert at January 26, 2015 09:28 AM (h6Mpm)
Which is why teh tumbleweeds are still blowing through the same commercial real estate that has been vacant for years now.
Me, I'm gonna go work on my head-bashing skills; the old rotator cuff has been a little gimpy lately. And I'll need camo. Lots of camo.
Posted by: dissent555 at January 26, 2015 09:28 AM (yR6A1)
Magic!
Or something.
I think the Greeks really believe that they can spend their way out of debt, and that it's just those mean European Union jerks who won't let them.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:29 AM (kff5f)
Not true at all.
Most jobs have been created in the private sector.
10 million private sector jobs since 2010.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:29 AM (+me+d)
Tom Brady having reduced pressure in his balls.
Interesting article in the sidebar, looking at performance statistics in what looks to be a rather scientific manner.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 26, 2015 09:29 AM (fL+1V)
http://tinyurl.com/o6wkf4y
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2015 09:30 AM (DXzRD)
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 26, 2015 09:30 AM (A98Xu)
@67
U6 is always higher than the established numbers.
Say what you want, Obama has kicked Bush's ass on job creation.
Those are the facts.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:20 AM (+me+d)"
In a sense that is true. By capping uninsured work at 30 hours, companies are now hiring more people to avoid the cost of health insurance. Of course, that means that a lot of people are now working two jobs in order to make ends meet so more jobs does not mean more people working as the worst labor participation rates since Jimmy Carter show.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 09:30 AM (KDbAT)
Posted by: HoboJerk, The State Loves You at January 26, 2015 08:54 AM (FA3Z7)
That or for the damn machines to finally rise.
Posted by: all doubt removed at January 26, 2015 09:30 AM (DvOSv)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 26, 2015 09:29 AM (fL+1V)
That's what I tell the wife. Reducing pressure in my balls equates to better performance.
SCIENCE!!!
Posted by: EC at January 26, 2015 09:30 AM (GQ8sn)
The band, not Limbaugh.
I am so there.
Any 'rons in the Buffalo area want to come with?
Posted by: Citizen X at January 26, 2015 09:31 AM (7ObY1)
Trust me! Oh, and you can keep your doctor if you like him.
Posted by: Don't Worry, Be Stupid at January 26, 2015 09:31 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: dissent555 at January 26, 2015 09:31 AM (yR6A1)
Conservatives hate Rand Paul because he reaches out to Blacks.
That is why he will never be the nominee.
Rand Paul does not hate minorities and that is a requirment in today's tea party GOP.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:31 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 09:31 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:29 AM (+me+d)
10 million minimum-wage private sector jobs since 2010.
So. The economy lost 20 million manufacturing jobs and replaced them with 10 million low-wage jobs and you call that a win?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:31 AM (fwARV)
That's nice.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:31 AM (kff5f)
Indeed, but Obama's U-6 numbers dwarf Bush's.
Please explain.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:32 AM (fwARV)
Emailed to my "not conservative-enough" college senior son.
One nit to pick though... While government sector job growth may be stagnant, they'll still get them damn step raises and bonuses outpacing those in the private sector.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 26, 2015 09:32 AM (GqEzX)
Posted by: all doubt removed at January 26, 2015 09:30 AM
Maybe IBM has become "sentient". That would explain the 100K lay-offs of carbon-based units...
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 26, 2015 09:32 AM (2Ayux)
Most jobs have been created in the private sector.
10 million private sector jobs since 2010.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy!
I heard Obama created 22 billion jobs!! All by himself.
Posted by: I can make up numbers too at January 26, 2015 09:32 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2015 09:32 AM (ABcz/)
That's nice.
Amazing the way he can type with dicks in his mouth.
He's a troll of many talents.
Posted by: Citizen X at January 26, 2015 09:33 AM (7ObY1)
With the possible exception of Glerbel Werming, which is, ErMerGerd, JerstTheWerst!
Glerbel Werming will, merst lerkely, DermErsErll!
DERM!!!
Posted by: Progtard 2000 at January 26, 2015 09:33 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 09:33 AM (3ZtZW)
Jobs being created is better than the stagnant job market of the Bush years.
Although I did not vote for Obama the first time, I am glad I voted for him in 2012.
Unless the GOP nominates Rand Paul or Kacish in 2016, Hillary with have my vote.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:33 AM (+me+d)
Because he said so.
Underlying facts and statistics don't matter, it's only what's on the surface that does!
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:34 AM (kff5f)
Labor Force Participation Rate
Dec 2000: 67%
Dec 2001: 66.7
Dec 2002: 66.3
Dec 2003: 65.9
Dec 2004: 65.9
Dec 2005: 66
Dec 2006: 66.4
Dec 2007: 66
Dec 2008: 65.8
Dec 2009: 64.6
Dec 2010: 64.3
Dec 2011: 64
Dec 2012: 63.7
Dec 2013: 62.8
Dec 2014: 62.7
It's clear - since 2008 the labor force participation rate fell like a rock. Since 1988 it's hovered around 66-67%.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 09:34 AM (eytER)
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 09:34 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:34 AM (+me+d)
The economy is *recovering*, but at a historically slow and uneven pace. We're basically treading water. The recession and crummy recovery has put the economy about $2 trillion below where the OMB thought we'd be by now, based on forecasts in 2006. (Which should give you pause as to the estimates the OMB is *currently* projecting.)
The public-sector pension bomb is still there and getting worse. The unfunded entitlement problem at all levels of government is getting worse. Stocks are frothing, but volatility puts real gains beyond the means of most investors. Bonds have such a crappy return that some have gone *negative* in real return (i.e., you are paying Uncle Sugar to hold your money for you).
Posted by: Monty at January 26, 2015 09:34 AM (qEHOe)
Problem solved!!
Posted by: Greece Progtards at January 26, 2015 09:34 AM (ZPrif)
Which makes me think we're back to this brilliant scheme:
1.Everybody has an IRA
2. Government decides it needs to manage *a;;* IRAs.
3. Profit?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Yeah, right.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2015 09:35 AM (ABcz/)
I mean, adjusted for inflation, that makes it look even better!
(Let's not worry about the constant diddling with the inflation stats to the point where they're pretty much meaningless any more, shall we?)
Posted by: filbert at January 26, 2015 09:35 AM (h6Mpm)
An average of 240,000 jobs per month created for a total of 3 million last year.
- Source? How many are part time/temporary, and how many were lost in that same time period?
The stock market at all time highs.- bzzzzt. Adjust for inflation, brought to you by ohbozo and the technicolor QEs, and you are way off.
The auto industry is booming.- relative to when? And when will they actually for real pay off their loans?
Unemployment down to 5.6%.- U6, do you speak it?
Don't worry, you're sappy.
Looks like they're still serving the stupidberry flavor kool-aid in the obamadrone cafeteria.
Posted by: Motown Mope (East of Harbaughville) at January 26, 2015 09:35 AM (xRHlK)
Posted by: Valiant at January 26, 2015 09:35 AM (4rlxS)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:35 AM (+me+d)
Anybody correlate that to Super SnowStorm Juno yet?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 26, 2015 09:35 AM (xq1UY)
Which one had better numbers?
Be brave and look.
.
.
.False equivalency. The two numbers cant be compared directly. When Bush started the Country basically had full employment. When Obama started the job market was bottomed out with nowhere to go but up. Sorry.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 26, 2015 09:36 AM (4oSLk)
Which makes me think we're back to this brilliant scheme:
1.Everybody has an IRA
2. Government decides it needs to manage *a;;* IRAs.
3. Profit?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Yeah, right.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2015 09:35 AM (ABcz/)
Surprise. We already have one. It's called Social Security.
Posted by: EC at January 26, 2015 09:36 AM (GQ8sn)
Highest Bush U-6 rate - 9.9
Highest Obama U-6 rate - 17.9
Doubling the unemployment rate is better than the stagnant Bush years? Hm.
Remember what you said in 2006? Somethingalong the lines of: "Bush is creating low-wage jobs. That's just as much a failure as not creating jobs at all."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:36 AM (fwARV)
That's a fact.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy!
UP UP UPPPPP. Yayyy, I've seen some stuff in the USA Today and all all the numbers were upppppp. And the numbers were on graphs...and in color!!!!!
Posted by: I can make up numbers too at January 26, 2015 09:36 AM (8ikIW)
Bronko Bama worked his ass off to create the energy boom to lower these gas prices that he has to block Keystone XL and Arctic drilling to maintain to....
//Yector the Goat Warbler
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:37 AM (/4AZU)
So you deny 3 million jobs were created last year?
Seriously?
If things were not good, Obama's numbers would not be up.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:37 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Fritz at January 26, 2015 09:37 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: ProgMedia at January 26, 2015 09:37 AM (ZPrif)
Approve 42%
Disapprove--52%
And President Obama can chew gum and watch national parades of foreign countries at the same time. Woo Hoo! Success!!!
Posted by: Don't worry; Be sloppy at January 26, 2015 09:38 AM (DXzRD)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:38 AM (+me+d)
January 4th 2007: The day Pelosi became Speaker of the Democratically controlled 110th Congress
National unemployment rate for December 2006: 4.5%
2006 Federal Budget Deficit: $247.7 billion
Average GDP growth for 2006: 3.4%
It only took two years of Democratic rule to destroy the economy, and only two years of having Republicans run the house to get it going again.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:38 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 09:38 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: blaster at January 26, 2015 09:38 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: Ken Jennings at January 26, 2015 09:38 AM (xq1UY)
I dare you.
Why don't you post them? After all, I posted my source.
Or are you a typical LIV who expects others to do your work for you?
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 09:39 AM (eytER)
Nice cherry picking.
Read the poll numbers from Gallup, Rasmussen, CNN and Washington Post.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:39 AM (+me+d)
Yeah, no. They want to get their hands on your private IRAs. The Obama admin briefly explored the idea back in 2010. And bad Lefty ideas never die, so I see that mandatory IRS idea as...troubling.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2015 09:39 AM (ABcz/)
Monty, FYI: "Don't Worry, Be Happy" is actual Hector, one of our recurring trolls.
Attempts to argue facts with him will leave you more frustrated than your wife suddenly getting "a headache" right after you took viagra.
He is good for nothing but beating about the head and shoulders, or as a chew-toy for the Horde.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:39 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:40 AM (+me+d)
Hence, the headline unemployment figure touted by His Majesty the King is mostly bullshit.
Posted by: Monty at January 26, 2015 09:40 AM (qEHOe)
And an opportunity to point out the abysmal economic performance of Democratically controlled Congresses.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:41 AM (evdj2)
Obama policies are better than Bush's.
Bush crashed the economy, while Obama has created a boom.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:41 AM (+me+d)
Come on, Nearsider, you know that's not fair. History didn't begin until 2008.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:41 AM (kff5f)
Seriously?
If things were not good, Obama's numbers would not be up.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:37 AM (+me+d)
Let's go quote the New York Times.
"The
deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the
strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage
work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.
In
essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:41 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2015 09:41 AM (wlDny)
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:42 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: SMOD at January 26, 2015 09:42 AM (WGm5T)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2015 09:39 AM (ABcz/)
Back then it was called "guaranteed 401k's" or something like that.
Posted by: EC at January 26, 2015 09:42 AM (GQ8sn)
Uh....what's that now?
Posted by: Dr. Ben Carson, confused by the stupid... at January 26, 2015 09:42 AM (xRHlK)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at January 26, 2015 09:42 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:39 AM (kff5f)
And Ace banned him, but he's back under a different hash.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:42 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:42 AM (+me+d)
That would be the "Obama dick sucking" Al-NYT Yector....
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:43 AM (/4AZU)
On the other hand, a President can sure-as-hell make them go away.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 26, 2015 09:43 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:43 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:43 AM (evdj2)
The truth hurts.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:44 AM (+me+d)
Greece elected a communist. How will his refusal to pay back loans
(that's what I got generally from the article) and being "non austere"
going to prop up the flagging Greek economy?
Especially after the EU tells them to sod off?
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 26, 2015 09:24 AM (A98Xu)"
I think that with this election, the folks who operate the Eurozone are going to decide that the most useful thing Greece can do is to serve as a bad example. They can boot them out of the Eurozone. They will probably have to boot them out of the EU as well in order to prevent waves of Greek economic refugees from flooding into the rest of Europe.
On the other hand, doesn't every member of the Eurozone get to print their own currency? What is to stop Greece from continuing to print Euros, assuming that they can afford to import the paper and the ink to do so? Yes, the Greeks can be blocked from electronic fund transfers, at least internationally, but they could take the ferry to Italy or fly to Switzerland with a duffle bag full of 100 Euro notes to deposit in a bank account there.
Maybe Greece can form a trading relationship with another outlaw state, shipping olives and wool to North Korea in exchange for XTC, nuclear weapons components and counterfeit US $100 bills.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 09:45 AM (KDbAT)
I like that George Bush is now the gold standard for presidential performance.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:45 AM (evdj2)
Sadly, for the workers, their take-home pay has dropped by ~25%, but hey!..., Obama gets to crow about "Jobs Created!", the media (and Hector) will do the same, so it's all good.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 09:45 AM (vPh3W)
No one here has posted Bush's job numbers vs. Obama's.
The truth hurts.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:44 AM (+me+d)
Let's go quote the New York Times. Again.
"The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.
In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:45 AM (fwARV)
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/230443-dems-push-automatic-ira-bill
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2015 09:45 AM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:46 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:42 AM (fwARV)
Oh, so his mom is workin' a new glory hole then....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 26, 2015 09:46 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:46 AM (+me+d)
Lol!
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:46 AM (+me+d)
Here's a yes or no question: "Is creating 1,000,000 fast-food jobs better than creating 900,000 engineering/manufacturing jobs?"
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:47 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 09:47 AM (3ZtZW)
The truth hurts.
Well, why don't YOU post them and show us all how we're wrong?
LOL...at you.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 09:47 AM (eytER)
Can prosperity be far behind?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 09:47 AM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 26, 2015 09:47 AM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 26, 2015 09:48 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:48 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 26, 2015 09:49 AM (BbwTO)
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 09:49 AM (3ZtZW)
I'm wondering why he doesn't get the MUMR TB3K treatment....
only surmise is he is left here for batting practice.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:49 AM (/4AZU)
Go get some economic literacy, Hector. Until then, your opinion has about as much bearing on reality as an ancient pagan claiming Thunder was because the Sky God was angry.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:49 AM (kff5f)
You are an outright klansmen.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy!
Hector has been banned by Ace. Co-blogs please do your duty.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 26, 2015 09:49 AM (kdS6q)
Clinton had better numbers than Bush as well.
Face it, after Reagan Republican Presidents suck economically.
Both Bushes were failures.
That is why in 2016 the Dems will hold the white house.
Americans see Dems create more jobs than Reps.
That's a fact jack!
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:50 AM (+me+d)
Well, that crappy code won't just write itself, you know...
Besides, paying a few pence for what might turn out to be a "monotizable" bit of code is worth the gamble, nes't ce pas?
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 09:50 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2015 09:51 AM (LJcWW)
work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.
Pole workers & Mickey D's.
Posted by: rickb223 - ODD at January 26, 2015 09:51 AM (TAu/7)
Here is a useful link for you:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2xZ5ZKK3zk00cg5UymeU3ZsiGQZrkBSK
It's the Khan Academy Principles of Economics series. Perhaps after an hour or so, you'll understand why "jobs saved or created" is such a joke.
Posted by: Dax at January 26, 2015 09:51 AM (5ITGo)
2. Demand to taken seriously.
(Repeat 1-2 as necessary)
3. Sidetrack debate, repel blog readers
4. Mission success!
Posted by: Troll Patrol at January 26, 2015 09:52 AM (ZPrif)
Read the poll numbers from Gallup, Rasmussen, CNN and Washington Post.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy!
I saw the numbers! All of them say that 100 percent of the people luvvvvvvvv Obama. YAY OBAMA. He is perfect!!!!
Posted by: I can make up numbers too at January 26, 2015 09:52 AM (8ikIW)
IRAs, Roths, 401(k), 403(b) and similar programs are more tempting because they're actually based on saved capital which can be taxed to produce net inflows to government coffers.
Posted by: Monty at January 26, 2015 09:52 AM (qEHOe)
Under 6 years of Obama a net of 7 million jobs has been created.
In 8 years of Bush, a net of 1 million jobs were lost.
That's the facts!
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:52 AM (+me+d)
(No, seriously: there is a book claiming the first part.)
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 26, 2015 09:53 AM (5yHi1)
http://is.gd/2KebYn
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:53 AM (evdj2)
President Barack Obama claimed he created more private-sector jobs in the past 27 months than President George Bush created 'during the entire seven years before this crisis.'
That's like comparing apples and mangoes. The president is absolving himself of responsibility for the savage recession he inherited, while assigning to Bush responsibility for the recession that began within weeks of his taking office in 2001.
The fact is, the economy has gained about the same number of private-sector jobs (Obama's preferred measure) in the 27 months since the most recent job slump hit bottom as it did in the 27 months following the bottom of the first Bush slump. And looking at total jobs - the broader and more customary measures - Bush's post-slump job creation record was significantly better than Obama's.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:53 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 26, 2015 09:53 AM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 09:53 AM (3ZtZW)
only surmise is he is left here for batting practice.
Lurker education.
Hector spews.
Horde puts info on his ass.
Lurkers edjucated.
Win!
Posted by: rickb223 - ODD at January 26, 2015 09:54 AM (TAu/7)
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:54 AM (evdj2)
In the years of Dem control of House and Senate, a net of 1 million jobs were lost.
That's the facts!
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 09:54 AM (/jpU8)
The truth hurts.
-----------------------
Numbers? Easy peasey. There are now almost 9 MILLION fewer people working than in 2009, when Obama took office.
Care to argue the point?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 09:54 AM (vPh3W)
The NYPD has 36,000 active duty police officers which it pays 4.6 billion dollars for and 42,000 rerirees whic it pays 4.7 billion dollars for.
This situation is typical of unions across the country.
I believe this will be the next crisis that leviathan will "solve."
Posted by: Kreplach at January 26, 2015 09:54 AM (DDFkt)
The NYPD has 36,000 active duty police officers which it pays 4.6 billion dollars for and 42,000 rerirees whic it pays 4.7 billion dollars for.
This situation is typical of unions across the country.
I believe this will be the next crisis that leviathan will "solve."
Posted by: Kreplach at January 26, 2015 09:54 AM (DDFkt)
Obama's 240,000 jobs a month beat Bush's 100,000 jobs per month.
Facts are on my side.
I win, you lose.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:55 AM (+me+d)
How he got us out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Of course, we all know about his successful work in Liberia and Syria.
Just what can't this great guy do?
Posted by: Don't Worry, Be Stupid at January 26, 2015 09:55 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: filbert at January 26, 2015 09:55 AM (h6Mpm)
Do recall we called Ogabe being hot to go after actual middle class and poor savings back during election 2008.
Soc Sec is an IOU perpetual motion machine...
I see a massive class action lawsuit by illegals demanding the bookkeeping be shifted around based on their identity theft in some cases in the next 10 years.
We live in an asylum, pity it's an insane one and not a politico-economic one.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 09:56 AM (/4AZU)
Eff it, I'm going to do something useful in comparison, like swinging a monkey wrench at a high-voltage wire.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at January 26, 2015 09:56 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: rickb223 - ODD at January 26, 2015 09:56 AM (TAu/7)
Tut, tut, tut *pats little one on head*
Don't you understand that raising taxes, er, investments in Governme, er, "America" is a good thing?
What's all this chatter about "accounts" and "lockboxes"?
/doireallyneedthistag?
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 09:56 AM (/jpU8)
The GOP had the house 2001 to 2006, during that time job growth was anemic.
Under Obama job growth is better than Bush.
Facts don't lie.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:56 AM (+me+d)
Hector, my 7 yr old can argue better than you can.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 09:56 AM (kff5f)
Companies live and die, which is why America hitting a near one hundred
year low in new company formation rates is truly boned. It'll take
decades to recover from Obama.
Posted by: MTF at January 26, 2015 09:07 AM (FCsIb)
MTF, at the end of WW2 both Germany and England were on rationing, collapsed industries and inflation.
Germany, once it had gotten its own government back took a look at the rationing, shortages and inflation and realized two things. It had to go back to a species backed currency and it had to end price controls
Chancellor Adenauer did two things, he got rid of the occupation money (that the USSR had been printing hand-over fist) and basically handed out the new Mark, and ended price controls by edict.
The next day there was enough food in the markets where there hadn't been enough, and the economic miracle happened.
With a release of the bureaucratic state and a hard currency it may take 20 years to recover from TFG and his treasonous friends, but we will see recovery immediately. If Germany can come up from the rubble, even after being plowed over be every military in the world bar Peru, the US can recover too, but we have to be free of these restraints.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 26, 2015 09:56 AM (t//F+)
Posted by: filbert at January 26, 2015 09:57 AM (h6Mpm)
Civilian Noninstitutional Population/Civilian Labor Force,% of population/total employed/% of population:
2000:
CIP 212,577k, 142,583k in labor force, 136,891k employed (64.4%)
2008:
CIP 233,788k, 154,287k in labor force, 145,362k employed (62.2%)
2013:
CIP 245,679k, 155,389k (labor force increase from 2000), 143,929k employed (58.6%).
Pretty weak sauce to hang your hat on, Hector.
LOL
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 09:57 AM (eytER)
I win, you lose.Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:55 AM (+me+d)
FactCheck.org
Bush's post-slump job creation record was significantly better than Obama's.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 09:57 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Don't Worry, Be Stupid at January 26, 2015 09:57 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Yemen. Salmon Fishing extraordinare at January 26, 2015 09:57 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 09:57 AM (3ZtZW)
6 million new jobs and a 4.5% EU ain't anemic, Dunce.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 09:58 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 09:58 AM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:58 AM (+me+d)
Facts are on my side.
I win, you lose.
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 09:59 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Bruce at January 26, 2015 09:59 AM (8ikIW)
6 million new jobs over 6 years is horrible.
We have had had 10 million over the last 4 years.
Obama beats Bush any day on economic stats.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:00 AM (+me+d)
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Well..., and diplomatic success with the Rooskies.
Posted by: Hillary!, furiously punching Reset Button at January 26, 2015 10:00 AM (vPh3W)
Nice try.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 09:58 AM (+me+d)
If you had even a basic grasp of economics, you'd realize that there can be more jobs and fewer people employed. It's why the labor participation rate is the lowest it's been since the Depression.
One person having three minimum-wage jobs counts as three jobs created. It also counts as two people no longer working.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 10:01 AM (fwARV)
There were elections in 2000 and 2005?
Newsworthy, that would be...
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:01 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 26, 2015 10:01 AM (2cS/G)
240,000 jobs a month by a Democrat President beats 100,000 per month by Republican President.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (+me+d)
Not with a sub-5% EU. I remember when 5% was considered next to impossible to beat. The term was structural full employment.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (LJcWW)
These fuckers have been changing the metrics since they got to Washington.
Remember these bozos are factoring using a metric they created called, "jobs created or saved."
A completely made up and baseless statistic.
Whatever number they site cut it in at least half.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (DDFkt)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:03 AM (+me+d)
Since the Republicans took the House. Game set match.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 10:03 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (+me+d)
But you just blamed the Republican Congress for the slow job creation.
Which is it?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 26, 2015 10:03 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2015 10:03 AM (LJcWW)
Stop talking to it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2015 10:03 AM (LJcWW)
Funny how sub 5% UE under Clinton was "structural full employment" but under Bush it was suddenly horrible and only because of "McJobs."
Now >6% UE (really closer to 20%, but we'll ignore that for the moment) is evidence that Everything Is Awesome!!!!
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 10:04 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:04 AM (+me+d)
Not true at all.
There is a net of 7 million more jobs than when Obama started.
Nice try.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy!
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Your argument isn't with me..., it is the the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
http://tinyurl.com/phopssj
Posted by: Hillary!, furiously punching Reset Button at January 26, 2015 10:04 AM (vPh3W)
LOL. No doubt. Having lived through both the 1970's and 1980's I know what a REAL recovery looks like. What we are living through today is a massive sham papered over with trillions of dollars of debt which can never be repaid. When the latest hyper-printed fiat bubble bursts we will be looking at The Great Depression, Part II.
Posted by: Foul Harold at January 26, 2015 10:04 AM (FGvan)
Posted by: physics geek at January 26, 2015 10:04 AM (MT22W)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:05 AM (zOTsN)
But... chew-toy.
This one still squeaks.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 10:05 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 10:05 AM (evdj2)
Bush inherited low unemployment and had the most anemic job growth.
That's a fact.
Since Reagan left, Republican Presidents suck on the economy.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:05 AM (+me+d)
You would think Dems would catch on Obama is not good for their career but not being able to face reality is what makes them Dems.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at January 26, 2015 10:05 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Foul Harold
Then? World War.
Posted by: rickb223 - ODD at January 26, 2015 10:05 AM (TAu/7)
Sounds like the East Coast is going to be slammed. Meanwhile, here in CO it's going to get up to 67F today(what?). Hope all East Coast 'rons and 'ettes are safe and well-supplied!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2015 10:05 AM (ABcz/)
It's Hector. One of our recurring trolls.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 26, 2015 10:05 AM (kff5f)
All trolls are Average Joe.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 10:05 AM (evdj2)
What's it like living with all that hate in your heart....?
Speaking of hate, how's your mom?
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 10:06 AM (eytER)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (+me+d)
I hear by declare that any one who works for over an hour, will be counted as employed. Home work? Employed!
Also, we are not going to factor in the growth of the population, because you know, static statistics are really what we like. I mean, the fact that the population is growing at a faster rate than employment, really is that's a red herring.
Posted by: Don't Worry, Be Stupid at January 26, 2015 10:06 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: physics geek at January 26, 2015 10:04 AM (MT22W)
It's Hector, the Serbian troll.
Posted by: EC at January 26, 2015 10:06 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:06 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Nip Sip
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No, and don't really expect any. Even if we get a little, the ground is way too warm for it to affect anything.
Higher elevations west and north will probably get some.
Posted by: Hillary!, furiously punching Reset Button at January 26, 2015 10:06 AM (vPh3W)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:06 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:06 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: filbert at January 26, 2015 10:07 AM (h6Mpm)
Bush having a lower U3 and U6 than Clinton is proof that Bush sucks b/c Obama is t3h awesome for having a higher U3 and U6 than Chimpy b/c "McJobs are booming baby!"
Yector if you're not a drill bit for Big Oil you missed your calling 'cause your thoughts go in tight circles.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:07 AM (/4AZU)
We really do not need large work forces anymore.
Because of efficiencies through technology and the nature of Americas economy there simply is no need for the massive workforces that led up to these advances.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 26, 2015 10:07 AM (DDFkt)
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 26, 2015 10:07 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Hillary!, furiously punching Reset Button at January 26, 2015 10:08 AM (vPh3W)
Listen 4,000 less raw income with the added cost of Ogabecare is shorthand for WINNING motherfu**ers!
//Don't Worry I'm Tarded
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:08 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 10:08 AM (vPh3W)
record non participation in the labor market
good times, good times
Hector how is the wife's business
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:08 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Seems Legit
That's allll Booshes fault. See, it says so right here on this piece of paper I keep in my pants.
Posted by: I can make up numbers too at January 26, 2015 10:09 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:09 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 10:10 AM (evdj2)
What's the labor force participation rate today? What was it 7 years ago?
Yep.
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What was it during Reagan's recovery?
Yeah, fuck this Jug Eared Fuck.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 26, 2015 10:10 AM (5yHi1)
Right now when Ogabe is claiming the economy it is his...
now in three months when gas prices are over 3 bucks after the Sauds use Ogabe and EPA to kill shale it'll be Bush's again...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:10 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (+me+d)
Blow jobs by your mom don't count.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 26, 2015 10:10 AM (cNJvW)
He has my old ski outfit, a single piece that top and bottom, what do you call those? It disco 70's bright blue and silver. He plans to go out in it tonight.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 10:10 AM (0FSuD)
He had the worse economic performance since Carter.
When it comes to the economy, Bush sucks.
But go ahead and live in your bubble world.
When Hillary waltzes into the White House in 2016, I will be on here election night to gloat and mock the weeping.
Ran Paul and John Kasich are the GOPs only shot at winning.
Instead you will nominate a theocratic xenophobic racist and lose again.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:11 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at January 26, 2015 10:11 AM (mf5HN)
Ah, who am I kidding? When a chew toy throws itself into your mouth, you have to bite down. It's a moral imperative.
Posted by: physics geek at January 26, 2015 10:11 AM (MT22W)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 26, 2015 10:10 AM (cNJvW)
Also, her clear complexion? Put some dermatologist out of a job.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 10:11 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:12 AM (+me+d)
It already is. You don't see breadlines becoz EBT. You will once they stop abruptly.
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 10:12 AM (3ZtZW)
We have had had 10 million over the last 4 years.
SINCE THE REPUBLICANS TOOK THE HOUSE.
Game set match.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 10:12 AM (evdj2)
Turns out the "unexpected" higher ice coverage and "unexpected" low temps have conspired to upset the transportation plans (read: no icebreaking required) that "expected" warmer and clear waters...
Go figure.
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:12 AM (/jpU8)
Yector is right we'll probably get HILLARY! in 2016...but it won't be because she is T3h Awesomesauce...
it's because the GOP refuses to make its case.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:13 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 10:13 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:13 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 10:13 AM (vPh3W)
The fact is the 90s GOP House and the last four years of GOP House beat the rest of the years on job creation.
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:14 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at January 26, 2015 10:14 AM (RNhbC)
Posted by: Speaker Gingrich at January 26, 2015 10:14 AM (0FSuD)
After that comes the Donner party stage.
Posted by: votermom at January 26, 2015 10:14 AM (cbfNE)
If you didn't go the story prior to the beginning of snowpocalypse don't go now. FenelonSpouse who works at supermarket reports there is not one space free in the entire parking lot and the lines stretch half way around the store. If you need food eat any stray trolls shambling by.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2015 10:14 AM (DXzRD)
Your point is moot.
They've boomed since 2011, by your own reckoning.
Petard, baby.
Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 26, 2015 10:15 AM (evdj2)
One thing the article also didn't explore was that two of the people profiled had been spending lots of money to send their kids to private schools, until the money ran out.
If Prince George public schools aren't worth attending, it makes sense that houses there would be worth less than in suburban areas where the public schools are decent.
Posted by: Racism! at January 26, 2015 10:15 AM (xnAyb)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2015 10:15 AM (DXzRD)
He's been a disaster from day one.
The Anti-Reagan in every way imaginable.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 26, 2015 10:16 AM (DDFkt)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 26, 2015 10:16 AM (Sd++4)
I'm good with that.
BTW, wonder if there was some even in American history around 2001?
Nah.
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:16 AM (/jpU8)
It's already snowing pretty hard here in Bergen County NJ
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2015 10:03 AM (LJcWW)"
Where in Bergen County?
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 10:16 AM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 26, 2015 10:16 AM (xq1UY)
Hillary will win because the economy is good.
The GOP will nominate under lame xenophobic theocrat.
Its game set match.
If Rand Paul or John Kasich get the nomination, then Hillary will be in trouble.
They are both inclusive forward looking Republicans who appeal to minorities and reject the xenophobia of conservatives.
Luckily for Hillary, the conservatives full of hate dominate the Presidential primaries and these 2 men will not be given a chanc.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:17 AM (+me+d)
what about Hillary and her vast love for the Muslim Brotherhood brought about by her vast reliance on her number one aide Huma Weiner?
You comfortable with her pro jihadi stances?
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:17 AM (zOTsN)
Proof Obama's War on Globull Warmening is winning!
--S' Hecturd
Posted by: rickb223 - ODD at January 26, 2015 10:17 AM (TAu/7)
Mary...if the Ozone layer is gone we'll all be persons of color thanks to sunburns...
//Sven from Hell, Texas.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:17 AM (/4AZU)
free in the entire parking lot and the lines stretch half way around
the store.
See? The NY economy is booming! Thanks to the progressive policies of de Blasio and Obama.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at January 26, 2015 10:17 AM (1BQGO)
Fact is post Reagan, GOP Presidents suck in job creation.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:17 AM (+me+d)
I agree.
Hector's an Axeltroll of some sort.
My guess is to spray the party line all over the threads so potential libtard converts to conservatism get their woobie and go back to not thinking.
anyway, he was banned by Ace last week.
Can't one of the cobs give him the MUMR treatment?
Posted by: naturalfake at January 26, 2015 10:18 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:18 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:18 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 10:16 AM (KDbAT)
I'm in Edgewater NJ right now at my Office. It get's heavy in spurts. Waiting for one patient and hopefully the mail then I am out of here
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2015 10:18 AM (LJcWW)
After that comes the Donner party stage.
May I interest you in a copy of "101 Ways To Prepare Long Pig?"
Posted by: rickb223 - ODD at January 26, 2015 10:19 AM (TAu/7)
So does the drinking (and no, don't ask me how I know)...
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:19 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:19 AM (zOTsN)
Both parties are pro Islamic.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:19 AM (+me+d)
And hasn't Food Stamp/EBT participation doubled under Obama -
by design? Yeah, they hired people to go out and get more people signed up for the program.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2015 10:19 AM (ABcz/)
Kreplach said "auger" instead of "augur," but I think that was on purpose.
Because, we're augered.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 26, 2015 10:19 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:20 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2015 10:20 AM (DXzRD)
Job growth sucked under GOP congress 2001 to 2006.
Your point is moot.
THEY'VE BOOMED SINCE 2011, BY YOUR OWN RECKONING.
Petard, baby.
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at January 26, 2015 10:20 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:20 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:21 AM (+me+d)
Proof Obama's War on Globull Warmening is winning!
--S' Hecturd.
.
.
.I saw that one the news when I was up in Akron recently. A large increase in ice cover the last few years on Lake Erie.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 26, 2015 10:21 AM (4oSLk)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:19 AM (zOTsN)
I thought Hector's wife was a prostrate cancer survivor? Damn I need a score card to keep up with events.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2015 10:21 AM (028dR)
In the new Energy Sensitive America, heat is turned UP to 55. You think other countries are just going to sit around and take it while we set our thermostats to 72 all year?
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at January 26, 2015 10:21 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Fenelon
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Too gamey.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 10:21 AM (l1zOH)
I love your denial about Republican Presidents being failures.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:21 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at January 26, 2015 10:22 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:22 AM (zOTsN)
Thanks for playing
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:22 AM (/jpU8)
Yes jobs grow under a Democrat President.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:22 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:23 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Bruce at January 26, 2015 10:23 AM (8ikIW)
The one thing that could goose job growth would be to do away with the minimum wage which would surely create a shit ton of jobs at the lower end but that might be the churn we need to turn this thing around.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 26, 2015 10:23 AM (DDFkt)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:22 AM (zOTsN)
Hector massages it for her.
Posted by: EC at January 26, 2015 10:23 AM (GQ8sn)
Muslims are a joke.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:23 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 26, 2015 10:24 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 10:16 AM (KDbAT)
NE NJ. Very wealthy. I would expect no less from a moron. I lived in Madison, in Morris County, a long time ago, before everyone but Vic and I were born.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 10:24 AM (0FSuD)
It's (ice levels) been as high as any in memory, but the problem lies in the fact that "planners" expected warmer (less ice) temps by now, and built accordingly.
*insert facepalm here*
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:24 AM (/jpU8)
Or a functional education system.
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at January 26, 2015 10:24 AM (evdj2)
and concentrated in states with GOP governors...
it does get confusing...I guess what Yector is saying is "the US economy needs a supplicant butt thrusting foreign policy failure to be in charge with GOP oversight at every other level...."
and I mean he has the party for the job of Foreign Policy ass-penetration longing SCOAMFs in mind....
READY FOR HILLARY!
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:24 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 10:24 AM (l1zOH)
Job growth sucked 2001 to 2006.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:24 AM (+me+d)
Crackers need not apply.
Posted by: rickb223 - ODD at January 26, 2015 10:24 AM (TAu/7)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:25 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 10:25 AM (evdj2)
sure. a joke. funny like a clown funny
you bet your life on that?
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:25 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Get your Adverbs here at January 26, 2015 10:25 AM (6CTxJ)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:25 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at January 26, 2015 10:26 AM (3ZtZW)
Thought that was Teddy's line...
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:26 AM (/jpU8)
"...everyone should turn down there heaters to 55 degrees for the next 5 days to help save the earth's Ozone Layer"
You're in luck. Whoever this Mayor of New York City is, he told his citizens to b prepared for several days without electricity. So what you get is a kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. And no doubt about it, running NYC without electricity will result in the climate there being cooler. Quite a bit cooler.
Does anyone remember where we mislaid that excess generating capacity?
Looks like it necessarily skyrocketed right on out of here.
So that pristine snow covering NYC will not be sullied by the fallout from coal-plant ash. It'll be lovely. Should cover the bodies until Spring.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 26, 2015 10:26 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Bruce
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Comfort food.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 10:26 AM (l1zOH)
Republican foreign policy sucks as well.
Care to discusses how invading Iraq created a Iranian shia puppet state?
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:26 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:27 AM (/jpU8)
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All the mocking of McJobs?
And the wailing about record stock market highs meaning the rich were getting richer?
And the sneering that the $600 tax credit "couldn't even buy a muffler?"
But under the JEF:
"McJobs are The Best Jobs Ever!"
"Record stock market highs are proof of a booming economy!!*"
"And an (almost) $1000 tax _deduction_ proposed by the SCOMF is The Economic Boost All Americans Need!!!"
*Except when you point out those stock prices haven't done shit for Main Street--then they'll pretend they've a comeback burn--"You just admitted trickle down economics doesn't work." Nevermind these fuckwads have no idea what that is and why the stock market has nothing to do with that theory--which actually has a real world success under Reagan. Unlike the unending record of failures of their plans.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 26, 2015 10:27 AM (5yHi1)
Posted by: Diogenes at January 26, 2015 10:27 AM (08Znv)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 10:27 AM (0FSuD)
*insert facepalm here*
.
.
.Yep, and they spent the last 15 or so years budgets according to what they were told.
"By 2015 the Great Lakes will be mostly ice free in the Winter, blah, blah....."
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 26, 2015 10:27 AM (4oSLk)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 26, 2015 10:21 AM (4oSLk)
It was, what, mid-June before Lake Michigan was ice free in 2014?
We joke about how the MFM acts as if history began on January 20, 2009. The same mentality exists when I talk to people about climate change. Oh this is the hottest since recorded history! My general response is to point out that a. recorded history is a very brief period of time and b. what you think there weren't temperatures before people were able to record it?
Seriously, I've had people stop dead and blink at me when I mention that. It's as if nothing happened before it was documented.
*stompys people*
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at January 26, 2015 10:28 AM (mf5HN)
So you agree that Republican foreign policy sucks as well as Democrats...
Posted by: anon a mouse at January 26, 2015 10:28 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: HH at January 26, 2015 10:28 AM (Ce4DF)
Posted by: Stringer
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"Clean-up on Hammer's keyboard..., clean-up on Hammer's keyboard!"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2015 10:28 AM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Oedipus at January 26, 2015 10:28 AM (Tjkt6)
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 10:28 AM (evdj2)
Well when you have your communist democrat chums undermining the war effort comrade...
quick point out the Ogabe miracle in yemen now fuckhead...
Syria, Nigeria....
Yup your donk ass MoFos are rockin' don't bother knocking....
Ogabe lost 3 times the number of people in 'ghasni Bush has to no gain....
Foreign Policy GENIUS class.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:28 AM (/4AZU)
Welcome back, Monty. These posts are just exactly what we need to read the first thing every Monday, if not every day.
They set the mood so well. Also, nice Doom Kitteh, I think.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 26, 2015 10:29 AM (0HooB)
care to discuss Clintons failure to kill bin Laden or terrorism
had he done so Sep 11 wouldn't have happened and we wouldn't have gone to Afghanistan or Iraq
Hillarys failure in Benghazi, her arming of ISIS and her sucking at the teat of Ms Weiner
the JEFs failure to address terrorism or Iran?
seems you are betting your life
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:30 AM (zOTsN)
When confronted by a brutal adversary, Jihadis are a joke.
Get this through your thick skull, both parties suck when it comes to Islam.
Democrats think Islam is cool.
Republics view Latino Catholics, Blacks and Gays as the enemy, not Muslims.
Neither party is serious about Islam.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:30 AM (+me+d)
That's why Ogabe is after Texas with the EPA....they rejected Windy....they must pay.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:30 AM (/4AZU)
If you have a part time job you are considered employed.
I don't know if you are working two jobs if they fudge and double the employment stats, would not put it past them.
Yes the economy is up slightly. Cars are now the new bubble but after 6 years a lot of them needed replacement.
I started to go on and on but I don't read long posts either the place moves too fast.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 26, 2015 10:31 AM (WNERA)
*stompys people*
Posted by: alexthechick
I find that many of them are the same people that laugh at the religious. "Oh, so you believe the earth is only 6000 years old? What a dummy you are, it's billions and billions!"
On global warming.." Oh, the last 10 years seals the deal!!"
Posted by: Bruce at January 26, 2015 10:31 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:31 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2015 10:31 AM (wlDny)
Our recent homebuying experience in the boonies alerted me to a potential bubble in the making. USDA loans require no down payment and they'll even finance your closing costs. We didn't qualify for this magical sign and buy loan, but most do since the income limits are very generous.
Now, rural properties do tend to be cheap, so we aren't talking about mega loans, but the property values are also pretty stagnant. It just made my spidey sense tingle seeing 103% financing loans being offered.
Posted by: Lauren at January 26, 2015 10:31 AM (MYCIw)
@362
Republican foreign policy sucks as well.
Care to discusses how invading Iraq created a Iranian shia puppet state?
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:26 AM (+me+d)
The stupid is strong. The Mullahs over threw the Shaw during
CARTER's administration. HELLO?
Why? The dumb fuck, Carter, stopped paying money to the Mullahs that we had been paying since WWII
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 26, 2015 10:32 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 26, 2015 10:32 AM (xq1UY)
But it does NOT smell like victory.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at January 26, 2015 10:32 AM (gfB4n)
Go figure - when the free cheese runs out people suddenly find multiple minimum wage jobs better than dumpster diving.
Linkey at NRO.
To sum, Merde Midas has been rescued from his own stupidity and yet continues to prance around like his poop doesn't stink - and he gets away with this because of a media who won't do even cursory research on his claims, LIVs, and Axelbot Outer Party members who lap it all up like champagne from a super-model's posterior.
Posted by: DocJ at January 26, 2015 10:32 AM (zrsn3)
What's the Republican answer?
Invade those countries, build schools, hand out lollipops and then hood elections that will result in Islamic parties winning?
Get real, neither part is anti- Islamic.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:34 AM (+me+d)
you are a robot. and unthinking zombie who can only parrot what he is fed
you cant defend your position so you come up with a false equivalence
constantly calling people here bigots when you spew all the most bigoted stuff about non democrats and non Christians.
do you even work
tell us about your "job growth"
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:35 AM (zOTsN)
Last time I check, it was Bush who overthrew Saddam and installed an Shiite regime beholden to Tehran.
ISIS is a sunni backlash against Iranian domination of the Mideast.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:36 AM (+me+d)
A settlement that they voted to approve, via approving a 4.5% cut to their pensions back in July. They were afraid they would be cut more, so voted to approve this step on the way to allowing the city to emerge from bankruptcy.
The only people getting any money out of that deal are the lawyers.
The average pension is $19,000 of which the pensioners are taking an $80 cut per month or 4.5% Not 20%. That 20% was originally considered then a bunch of wealthy benefactors such as Roger Penske, etc. offered to funnel money into the city to be used to offset pension liabilities which reduced the cuts.
http://www.michigandaily.com/news/preparing-final-days-detroit-bankruptcy
Posted by: Jen the original at January 26, 2015 10:36 AM (nX2TX)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:37 AM (+me+d)
Making certain that we had a booming economy evidently never occurred to them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 26, 2015 10:37 AM (0HooB)
(that's what I got generally from the article) and being "non austere"
going to prop up the flagging Greek economy?
Magic!
Or something.
I think the Greeks really believe that they can spend their way out of debt, and that it's just those mean European Union jerks who won't let them.
===========
It goes like this:
1) All money inside a state is the Government's money.
2) When the Government takes (its) money from their citizens and spends it on social programs (not military), that is Good. (the old, discredited "social spending = more private spending = increase in GDP = economic recovery.)
3) When the Government is forced to spend its money paying back foreign banks (for its prior social spending), the banks are stealing from the social spending.
4) By not paying the banks, the Government can increase social spending.
Thus: "social spending = more private spending = increase in GDP = economic recovery"
The most dangerous job in Greece right now is the person charged with answering "where does the Government get more money for social spending if the citizens have no money and no one will loan the Government more money?"
If he tells the truth, they will kill him. If he lies, he will get blamed for the failure and they will kill him.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 26, 2015 10:37 AM (5yHi1)
how did Iran come to dominate the region and export political islam
oh yea
it happened under Carter
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:37 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: King Barky the Liar at January 26, 2015 10:38 AM (WGm5T)
heavy in spurts. Waiting for one patient and hopefully the mail then I
am out of here
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2015 10:18 AM (LJcWW)"
I went to High School in Ridgewood. Now I live in the DFW area where it is currently 48 degrees but predicted to be in the 70s until the weekend.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 10:38 AM (KDbAT)
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 10:38 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:39 AM (zOTsN)
Only Rand Paul or John Kasich would have any chance against Hillary in 2016.
The rest of the Republican field except that fat pig Jeb are a bunch of theocratic xenophobe racists.
The America will reject the GOP nominee unless its Paul or Kasich.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:40 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2015 10:41 AM (LJcWW)
Link please.
Bush had a net loss of 1 million jobs, while Obama has a net of 7 million so far.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:41 AM (+me+d)
Right b/c Nikki Haley is a UFO alien or something...
listen champ the media, the media, the media...
the Hildebeast could run against Jesus Christ as a female and the newsies will shill for her.
We get it, we don't agree with each other about what to do to the left about it...but we get it.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:42 AM (/4AZU)
You hate Rand because he's trying to broaden the GOP's appeal to blacks.
That bothers KKK bigoted xenophobes like you.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:42 AM (+me+d)
B/C you can't spell batshit crazy without the moonbat
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:42 AM (/4AZU)
Bush Labor Force Increase: 10.350 million increase
Obama Labor Force Increase: 3.018 million increase
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 10:43 AM (LXJ1e)
Rand sucks for the reason his dad sucks...
Wanting blacks to succeed by a growing economy is not racism Yector it's egalitarianism.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:43 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 26, 2015 10:44 AM (RZzX3)
Hey now that's like 600,000 a year....
when even without the flood of illegals you need ~ 255,000 or so just to break even a month...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:44 AM (/4AZU)
I think you have to confront your anti-American, anti-white, anti-semetic bigotry
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:45 AM (zOTsN)
Rand Paul or Kasich are the GOP's only hope in 2016.
They are forward looking and are trying to broaden the GOP's appeal.
Something tells me that in real life, you are not a theocratic xenophobe and you just play one online to fit in.
In order to beat Hillary, Republicans will need a new style out of the box candidate.
You know I am right on this.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:45 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 10:46 AM (LXJ1e)
I am white, proud to be American and support Israel.
Thank you very much.
I hate xenophobes, theocrats and bigots.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:46 AM (+me+d)
I like this form of argumention
requires no thinking. very very easy
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:47 AM (zOTsN)
In order to beat Hillary the GOP needs to run a woman governor with a good economic record...
Luckily we have two...arguably four...
unluckily we have a party ran by retards content to be the media's whipping boy.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 10:47 AM (/4AZU)
@397
Last time I check, it was Bush who overthrew Saddam and installed an Shiite regime beholden to Tehran.
ISIS is a sunni backlash against Iranian domination of the Mideast.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:36 AM (+me+d)"
Under Bush, there were elections in Iraq and a Shiite was elected. Not too surprising when you consider that a majority of Iraqis are Shiites. While the US military was in Iraq, they exerted a moderating influence on Maliki. As soon as Obama bailed out of Iraq, that moderating influence ended. Maliki fired all the Sunni out of the Iraqi government and army and started a series of petty actions to screw over the Sunnis in Iraq. When ISIS showed up, the Sunni were sort of in the same position as the Finns during WW II. They were not really in love with Hitler but Stalin had already screwed them and there was not anybody else offering to be their allies.
Essentially all Obama had to do in Iraq was leave it alone and not screw it up. That task proved to be beyond his ability.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 10:49 AM (KDbAT)
Rand and Ron are 2 different people.
Ron is an isolationist kook.
Rand is a realist when it come to foreign policy and rejects nation building in Islamic nations.
If Republicans like you wanted Blacks to succeed, you would not be giving Rand shit because he's trying to appeal to them.
Personally, I doubt you are racist in real life.
You just play one online to fit it.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:50 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Don't Worry, be ERG! at January 26, 2015 10:52 AM (WDCYi)
Bush should have never disbanded the Iraqi army nor should he have held elections.
We should have installed a secular Sunni dictator.
Democracy and Islam are not compatible.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:52 AM (+me+d)
These fuckers have been changing the metrics since they got to Washington.
Remember these bozos are factoring using a metric they created called, "jobs created or saved."
A completely made up and baseless statistic.
Whatever number they site cut it in at least half.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 26, 2015 10:02 AM (DDFkt)
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Thank you. I was going to post that too. This administration was the very first to make up an entirely new fake metric. "Jobs created or saved" means absolutely nothing. After hearings it was disclosed that if one stimulus dollar went to one person for more than I believe four hours in one day and that person was never hired or paid again he was still counted as a job created for that quarter. Never in our history has such a fake stat been used with such a straight face. Only a far Left admin would even try.
And rickb223: you are dead on. We are now in a global currency war and the whole system is coming down. Currency wars on this scale ALWAYS lead to war. Always.
Posted by: New Phone at January 26, 2015 10:53 AM (CDzfw)
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 10:53 AM (evdj2)
The new model is to work until you're 85, then get replaced by a guy from Latin America. I pioneered that.
Posted by: Pope Benedict XVI at January 26, 2015 10:53 AM (WDCYi)
So Obama's economy is what we thought it would be - A DISASTER.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 26, 2015 10:54 AM (DDFkt)
Susana Martinez can never get the GOP mood.
She's Catholic and Mexican Hispanic, the xenophobes who control the primaries will not allow her to win.
Haley is Indian, but because she's Evangelical, her ethnicity might be overlook.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:55 AM (+me+d)
6 million over 6 years is anemic.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:56 AM (+me+d)
Hector is an anti-American, racist, anti-Semite and religious bigot
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 10:56 AM (zOTsN)
@429
Bush should have never disbanded the Iraqi army nor should he have held elections.
We should have installed a secular Sunni dictator.
Democracy and Islam are not compatible.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 10:52 AM (+me+d)"
They said the same thing about the Japanese and the Koreans. It took a couple of decades before they had the substance to match the form.
Sadly, that will never happen for Iraq because Democrats cannot abide a US military victory so they always throw it away as soon as they come to power. They did it for Vietnam and they did it for Iraq.
Do you want to see America lose a war? Vote Democrat.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 10:57 AM (KDbAT)
Conversely, the Republican House has presided over an almost 10 Million job increase since 2011.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 10:58 AM (evdj2)
Obama Per Capita GDP increase: $-1000
This number always amazes me because during the Reagan/Bush years this was the go to number in the press for America's economic well being. Yet now, crickets.
Also the long term trend of this was very stable. The per capita GDP should be about $48,000. Yet here we are stuck at $43,000.
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 10:59 AM (LXJ1e)
Impressive to say the least.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 10:59 AM (evdj2)
Don't compare civilized Asians to Islamic savages.
Its funny how you conservatives dream that the Islamic hell holes can be civilized.
You are living a fantasy.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:00 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Mr Chumpo at January 26, 2015 11:01 AM (9Z1GO)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 11:02 AM (zOTsN)
Conversely, the Republican House has presided over an almost 10 Million job increase since 2011.
So combining the two figures, Republicans +16M jobs, Democrats -8M.
Impressive to say the least.*
*merging posts for future use.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:03 AM (evdj2)
That's not how it works.
The President gets credit for job growth, not Congress.
Fact is under Bush there was a net loss of 1 million jobs.
Under Obama a net of 7 million jobs created.
Good luck arguing that the GOP congress created jobs to the average voter.
They will laugh at your face.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:03 AM (+me+d)
@440
Don't compare civilized Asians to Islamic savages.
Its funny how you conservatives dream that the Islamic hell holes can be civilized.
You are living a fantasy.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:00 AM (+me+d)"
It is not possible anywhere as long as Democrats will achieve political power in the United States from time to time.
So now, the only effective military option available to the United States is one that cannot be undone by the next Democrat Administration or Congressional majority. That means nukes.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 26, 2015 11:03 AM (KDbAT)
They will laugh at your face.
Points at scoreboard since 2010.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:04 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Hank at January 26, 2015 11:04 AM (EU/xj)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:05 AM (+me+d)
Thinkin's got nothin' to do with it.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:05 AM (evdj2)
The best example: Xerox. Palo Alto Research Corp, their R/D arm, invented the GUI. And they basically gave it to Bill Gates. (Gates is always portrayed as a nerdy genius. I don't think he ever wrote a line of code.)
Also see: Levi/Strauss.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 26, 2015 11:06 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 11:06 AM (LXJ1e)
In fairness, he co-wrote a Basic interpreter.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:07 AM (evdj2)
Seriously.
Posted by: New Phone at January 26, 2015 11:08 AM (CYleN)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 11:08 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ThunderB, Professional Ball Deflator at January 26, 2015 11:08 AM (zOTsN)
You need to fit Innumerate Dunderhead in there somewhere.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:09 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 26, 2015 11:09 AM (5buP8)
Here is the score.
Bush I (89 - 93) +2 million jobs created.
Clinton (93-2001) +22 million jobs created.
Bush II (2001-2009) - 1 million jobs lost.
Obama (2009-present) + 6 million jobs.
That's what voters see.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:10 AM (+me+d)
BLS DATA: Average U3 Bush: 5.5% Average U3 Obama: 8%
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 11:11 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:11 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:13 AM (+me+d)
Most jobs created under Bush were low wage.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:14 AM (+me+d)
Which is GREAT now since 4000 bucks less per worker GDP is t3h awesomesauce but was bad under Bush BECAUSE!
DERP DERP DERP
//Yector on Choom
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 26, 2015 11:16 AM (/4AZU)
Average annualwage growth Bush: 3%
Average annual wage growth Obama: 1.7%
That's what voters see.
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 11:17 AM (LXJ1e)
How many jobs would be created in this global economy if the tax rates and regulatory burdens of the years before Reagan had remained?
Posted by: Hank at January 26, 2015 11:17 AM (EU/xj)
Since 2008
Republicans +2 Houses of Congress, +8 Governors, +33 State Legislative Chambers.
Democrats retained Presidency.
The voters see more than you.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:18 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:20 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:26 AM (evdj2)
The Presidency is the main event.
Republicans are winning college bowl games.
Democrats win the Superbowl.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:27 AM (+me+d)
Wage growth under Bush was 1.2%.
Nice try.
I went to the BLS and looked.
Btw, Obama's numbers are up.
What do you have to say about that.
Posted by: Don't worry, be Happy! at January 26, 2015 11:29 AM (+me+d)
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 11:32 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 11:35 AM (LXJ1e)
Republicans are winning college bowl games.
Democrats win the Superbowl.
Hug that to your breast at night.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:37 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 11:39 AM (LXJ1e)
Unprecedented, btw.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:39 AM (evdj2)
But, there is a difference between spiraling down under Republican leadership and lawn darting under a Democratic one. I hope for the former.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 26, 2015 11:42 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Shoot Me at January 26, 2015 11:49 AM (EQcfE)
Average annual weekly wage growth under Bush: $28.25
Average annual weekly wage growth under Obama: $13.17
Yes, Bush's record here is more than twice as good as Obama's. This points to the fact that Obama economic "miracle" is most low wage job growth.
Posted by: Ken at January 26, 2015 12:00 PM (LXJ1e)
2 Let's all take a moment and pray for SMOD's arrival.
Not yet. I still have a long list of hookers to work thru.
As it were...
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at January 26, 2015 12:03 PM (1hM1d)
Of course, all of our "savings" might be "redistributed" well before that happens.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 26, 2015 12:58 PM (trX1O)
Posted by: bjk at January 26, 2015 01:24 PM (DOgiJ)
Posted by: 0302 at January 26, 2015 02:06 PM (yHHKL)
Posted by: Beth at January 26, 2015 04:12 PM (Epq7Y)
Posted by: Tina at January 26, 2015 07:07 PM (95udX)
And by someday, I mean tomorrow.
Get to work, those pensions won't pay themselves.
And make me a sammich.
-- The DNC
Posted by: Captain Comic at January 26, 2015 07:47 PM (cDBRo)
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Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)