This Wednesday's Racist, Colonialist Charlie Hebdo Cover

Three million copies will be printed; the paper usually prints 50,000.

I don't really get the intent of the cover, but then, I never understand any of their cartoons, really. As I don't understand them, I don't pretend to be able to divine their intent and judge their politics.

This separates me from the left, who also doesn't understand the house style of Charlie Hebdo humor, but which wants to portray itself as experts on all things, and have, therefore, been claiming to "really get" Charlie Hebdo since they heard of it last Wednesday. And they've decided, along with the Islamists, that Charlie Hebdo kind of deserved it.

For a political position which claims to place such a strong emphasis on empathy, it has been sorely lacking on the far-Left in recent days. That all of the journalists were murdered over a difference of opinion is apparently irrelevant; instead, I have seen a far greater effort on the demonstration on far-Left credentials through the condemnation of Charlie Hebdo and freedom of speech than on solidarity with democrats and anti-Islamists. More importantly, in criticising the cartoons in response to an outpouring of sympathy for Charlie Hebdo, it is implied that their deaths are less important than if those cartoons had never been drawn.

"Those criticising Charlie Hebdo's cartoons are implying that the victims are unworthy of sympathy whilst denying they’re doing such a thing." https://twitter.com/JoeMiles94/status/553218280241242112

This is the heart of the opposition towards people celebrating free speech in defiance of Islamist violence – that ultimately, people who disagree with the far-Left are worth less as people, and the legitimacy of what they have to say is devalued as a result. This perspective is far more dangerous to freedom of speech than violent lunatics, as rather than arguing the problem with freedom of speech is a cartoon mocking Islamist demagoguery, freedom of speech is instead criticised as a flawed value. It is what prompts the usage of 'Freeze Peaches' [making fun of the concept of free speech by calling it by a babytalk name -- ace ] or "Free Speech" in quotation marks. This, not gun-toting maniacs, is the real threat to freedom of speech over the coming weeks and months – that Charlie Hebdo’s insistence on satirising Islamism makes them too irreverent for their principles to be defended. They and their values must be.

Below then the new cover of Charlie Hebdo. I don't get it. Mohammad is saying "All is forgiven."

I don't... I don't understand what they're trying to say. I think sometimes this paper gets so lost in ironizing an ironic take originally made ironically that their actual message disappears somewhere up in the seventh dimension of their own assholes (which then allows ignorant American left-wingers to claim this communist- oriented left-wing magazine is Racist and ergo RightWing).

If anyone can explain this to me, let me know.



Of course, the actual meaning of the cartoon doesn't really matter. What matters is that someone wanted to print this cartoon-- and other people want to kill them for it.

And the Left Wing, which, unlike the Islamist scum, grew up in rich, decent civil societies, actually takes the killers' side in this argument, as they usually do.

Hey, getting back at your father is a lifetime job.

Incidentally, Charlie's first issue after the savage butchery of last Wednesday is obviously newsworthy, and of course so then is its cover; but the media will of course embargo.

Praise the Prophet Mohammad, and please cut our throats last.

Meanwhile, the Islamists and the New York Times, CNN, AP, and NBCNews are on the same page:



Posted by: Ace at 04:59 PM




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1 I can't tell if the cover is flying over my head or if I'm not lowering myself far enough to get it

Posted by: the real ch3 at January 12, 2015 05:01 PM (IG5KL)

2 Should have gone with a French version of 'Bomb Mohammad" for dialogue purposes of course.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 12, 2015 05:02 PM (AC0lD)

3 No comprende.

Posted by: NCKate at January 12, 2015 05:03 PM (mVv5B)

4 I don't get it? Are they forgiving the mohammadens?

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at January 12, 2015 05:03 PM (Bn6aD)

5 It represent a move to the center.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 12, 2015 05:03 PM (oKE6c)

6 Whats the translation?

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 12, 2015 05:03 PM (3jmxp)

7 Meeting in the middle.

Posted by: NCKate at January 12, 2015 05:03 PM (mVv5B)

8 Probably parodying the Islams non forgiveness culture. ...after you're dead, you are forgiven or something.

Posted by: dogfish at January 12, 2015 05:03 PM (1vYi0)

9 I think they are lampooning how all these nominal supporters of Free Speech are suddenly on their side, even Mahmoud Abbas, even University professors who are against "hate speech", and even the Prophet Mohammed himself.

Posted by: Pastorus at January 12, 2015 05:04 PM (7eA96)

10 MoHamMan is on the pop culture Je Suis Charlie bandwagon, and doesn't want infidels murdered anymore.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball, Joke Expert at January 12, 2015 05:04 PM (yn6XZ)

11 6

All is forgiven

Posted by: the real ch3 at January 12, 2015 05:04 PM (IG5KL)

12 All is forgiven, even though it's another cartoon Mohammed and he's crying and that will piss them off?

From the nation that brought you Camus, post-modern angst and ennui goes to 11.

Posted by: brak at January 12, 2015 05:04 PM (Tj+s6)

13 I feel centered on this issue.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 12, 2015 05:04 PM (vPh3W)

14 I get it. It's a Middle East cover.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 12, 2015 05:04 PM (3jmxp)

15 Could it be a dig at Abbas?

Posted by: Y-not at January 12, 2015 05:04 PM (9BRsg)

16 Does his sign say "I am Charlie?"

Posted by: shredded chi at January 12, 2015 05:05 PM (0k2IJ)

17 If you look real hard, Mohammad's nose looks like a pecker and his hat is the ball sack.

Posted by: MacGruber at January 12, 2015 05:05 PM (S+el1)

18 Every politically correct leftist in the world is suddenly a champion of America's freedoms, when ordinarily they are working to overthrow our system at all costs.

Posted by: Pastorus at January 12, 2015 05:05 PM (7eA96)

19 Clowns to the left of me, Islamists to the right....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 12, 2015 05:05 PM (knoK7)

20 Three million copies versus the usual 50,000 copies eh.


I have an exciting, controversial, new idea to really spike CNN and MSNBC's ratings. It involves some dolls, cartoons, the Prophet Mohammad, fire, some Koran and some 'moderate Muslims' that don't appreciate satire.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 12, 2015 05:05 PM (AC0lD)

21 17

NOW I get it

Posted by: the real ch3 at January 12, 2015 05:05 PM (IG5KL)

22 If anyone can explain this to me, let me know.

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On one hand you got your multicultural cognitive dissonance. On the other hand you got your stereotypical Arab loon in a funny hat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2015 05:06 PM (AcTvz)

23 Corgis called.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2015 05:06 PM (JP4JT)

24 They should do an Iron Maiden cover Cover, with Eddie gunning down sheep frogs.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball, Joke Expert at January 12, 2015 05:06 PM (yn6XZ)

25 17 If you look real hard, Mohammad's nose looks like a pecker and his hat is the ball sack.

It does...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at January 12, 2015 05:06 PM (Bn6aD)

26 How do else know that's the Profit Mohamed and not dick weed Mohamed?

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 12, 2015 05:07 PM (3jmxp)

27 Chicks love Big Balls. Love 'em!

Posted by: Randy Marsh, Cancer Survivor at January 12, 2015 05:08 PM (yn6XZ)

28 Couldn't that just be your average mohammaden?

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at January 12, 2015 05:08 PM (Bn6aD)

29 After being equally perplexed, I decided the intent had to be that Islamists were, somehow, so shamed by the outpouring of condemnation of Islam that they were forced to distance themselves from the murderers.

And, if so, it is utterly untrue. But if their stock in trade is publishing provocative things, suggesting shame from Muslims is, I suppose, provocative.

Upshot: Too subtle by half

Posted by: Kirk at January 12, 2015 05:09 PM (GBnWt)

30 I pronounce a Fatwa upon all who dare to look upon this desecration. And, upon Cowboys fans.

Posted by: The Prophet Some Dope at January 12, 2015 05:09 PM (7GBH9)

31 Let me Voxplain it: The cover is showing that the cartoonists are sorry and want forgiveness and Obama was correct in blowing off the march to watch football.

Posted by: Ezra Klein at January 12, 2015 05:09 PM (0vU31)

32 communist- oriented left-wing magazine is Racist and ergo RightWing
***

any liberal person or organization that embarasses the progressive faithful is automatically right - wing.

see also the Sally Kohn bullshit on ppl killed by right wingers in the USA since 911. They ignore, AFAIK:
Major Hassan
Chris Dorner
Joseph Stack
Moh'med Reza Taheriazar
Hesham Mohamed Hadayet
Ali Muh'mad Brown
Sulejman Talovic
Amy Bishop
James Lee
Beltway Snipers
Floyd Lee Corkins
Loughner

who should be considered lefty or islamic (and therefore lefty).

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 12, 2015 05:09 PM (pofbO)

33 It's *another* picture of Muhammad (and that's the primary point), who, btw, was not entirely "earthbound."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq

Muhammad rode Barack through the seven heavens to meet God.

Posted by: I'll Never Tell at January 12, 2015 05:09 PM (ir3Yt)

34 On a tangentially-related subject, once ISIS (who of course are not Muslims and don't you for one second think they are) succeeds in slaughtering all the non-ISIS folks, we can just bomb those countries indiscriminately, right?

No civilians = no collateral damage.

Posted by: cool arrow at January 12, 2015 05:10 PM (7XKHI)

35 There is forgiveness in Christianity. I'm no expert on Islam, but I do not believe there is forgiveness anywhere in it's text, of sins or anything else. I kinda see this cartoon as Mohammed acknowledging and accepting Jesus. Which would be in-your-face f*cking hysterical if that's what they're saying. We'll see on Wednesday.

Posted by: joefl65 at January 12, 2015 05:10 PM (UFV5W)

36 Do muslims even know what forgiveness is??

Posted by: dantesed at January 12, 2015 05:10 PM (88xKn)

37 At a guess, a cartoon of Muhammad crying a crocodile tear saying he forgives Charlie.
Which is still meant to rile up Muslims dince any representation of ole PedoMo is haram.

Posted by: @votermom at January 12, 2015 05:10 PM (cbfNE)

38 I don't get it either. I don't know if a weepy Mohammed is forgiving the murdered journalists, or asking to be forgiven ("Don't blame me, it was just a couple of loons!") As you say, they're so ironical as to be incomprehensible.

I'll be curious to see what's inside, though - whether they continue to spray feces everywhere and on everybody, or whether they suddenly start shying away from certain subjects.

Posted by: Annalucia at January 12, 2015 05:10 PM (a5bF3)

39 So you have Muhammed with a tear in his eye holding a je suis Charlie sign saying all is forgiven.

My take:

Big Mo is saying all is forgiven for the Charlie folks for poking fun at him - that the violence Islamists are implementing in his name is not what he would want.


Posted by: 18-1 at January 12, 2015 05:10 PM (78TbK)

40 If you look real hard, Mohammad's nose looks like a pecker and his hat is the ball sack.
Posted by: MacGruber


Oh, so he looks like a Jew and is lying about Islam.

Sarcasm and irony.

Off with their heads!!

Posted by: Imam Sharia El Bossi at January 12, 2015 05:10 PM (RFeQD)

41 Yeah, the cover should say something like, "Cfuk you, you cfuking goat-cfukers, come and try to get us now, if you fcuking dare."

Posted by: Hurrican LaFawnduh at January 12, 2015 05:11 PM (HBAcW)

42 "Tout est pardonne" I think means "All is forgiven" but it's been decades since French classes.


And even though I'm French, I refuse to learn the garbage language of socialists.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 12, 2015 05:11 PM (AC0lD)

43 It's Racist.

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:11 PM (/jpU8)

44 I'm curious why we didn't get a million marchers to protest Theo Van Gogh's savage murder in 2004. I have a hard time believing it's because people are finally waking up to this shit. It's been going on for a long time.

Posted by: Mike at January 12, 2015 05:11 PM (c056A)

45 Hmm. I don't know Ace..., I think that should be "The Prophet Mohammad", capital 'T'. Wouldn't want to confuse him with lesser prohphets

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2015 05:11 PM (l1zOH)

46
They are french, I don't expect to understand their humor. What I do understand is that they aren't cowering and that is what is important.

Posted by: Lea at January 12, 2015 05:11 PM (lIU4e)

47 In before the Dhimmi Scorpions!

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 12, 2015 05:11 PM (evdj2)

48 39 that is actually a pretty good explanation.

Posted by: the real ch3 at January 12, 2015 05:12 PM (IG5KL)

49 18-1 good take

Posted by: The Jackhole at January 12, 2015 05:12 PM (6/J77)

50 Muhammad rode Barack through the seven heavens to meet God.



Reggie rode Barack.....

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2015 05:12 PM (JP4JT)

51 There is no "I" in Jesus!

Posted by: Mohammed, Jesus Freak at January 12, 2015 05:12 PM (yn6XZ)

52 *Who*, exactly, is being forgiven?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2015 05:13 PM (l1zOH)

53 They are french, I don't expect to understand their humor.

Nous aimons Jerry Lewis!

Posted by: The French at January 12, 2015 05:13 PM (evdj2)

54 So it's saying Muhammad is a nice guy who wants peace?
Sounds blasphemous.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 12, 2015 05:13 PM (ZPrif)

55 17 and 33, for the win.

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at January 12, 2015 05:13 PM (ir3Yt)

56
I just looked at the cover and I do understand it. It stinks.

It's a big Fuck You to all the people who showed or expressed support and sympathy for the hateful assholes at Charlie Hedbo, sincerely and insincerely.

One of the staff a CH said this weekend that he "vomits on" those who expressed support, especially ALL the people on the Right.

So that's their first reaction. A fuck you instead of a thank you. Well, fuck you, too, Charlie Hedbo.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:13 PM (IKE1C)

57 Just because a lot of muslims show up at a rally carrying signs they are excused? for murdering people? CH thinks not

Posted by: l jutzi at January 12, 2015 05:13 PM (c0a3j)

58 For all those asking what it means, you might try reading the post. I know. I know! Unconventional.

Posted by: dogfish at January 12, 2015 05:13 PM (1vYi0)

59 Ace,
My take on the cover is that they are portraying Muhammad (you know, the Prophet) as regretful of what happened and, of course, holding up the hashtag sign.

Naturally, this will piss off the Muslim extremists...or in other words, the Muslims.

Posted by: SGT York at January 12, 2015 05:13 PM (gjaCP)

60 "Tout est pardonne"?

I thought that meant "nice rack there toots, er, pardner"

Huh.

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:13 PM (/jpU8)

61 I think they're trolling.

Sad Mohammed, willing to bury the hatchet, totally sympathetic. Charlie's saying, "OK, oppose THIS image of Mohammed."

Posted by: AmishDude at January 12, 2015 05:14 PM (L2xDv)

62 There is no "I" in Jesus!

***

Except in Latin.

Posted by: cool arrow at January 12, 2015 05:14 PM (7XKHI)

63 Irony is the left wingers at the magazine, along with most of French society voted for and supported the open borders, welcome all the radical muslims into their country policies. Now, it is too late to do much about it.

Liberal policies always lead to disaster and death. History has proven it, yet when the deaths arrive, the leftists have a march/rally in the town square, while never adjusting the policies that lead to the deaths in the first place.

Therefore, it will keep happening over and over.

Posted by: Dan at January 12, 2015 05:14 PM (COpZ4)

64 Idea for U-Tube video: Watch me flush the Koran.

Posted by: Hurrican LaFawnduh at January 12, 2015 05:15 PM (HBAcW)

65 Meh. Whiff.

If they showed Mohammed joining in the Holy Trinity's anal sodomy train, I would have been impressed...

But no survivors putting this issue together quite had the stomach to draw that cartoon and so, well, Catch-22 covered it:

"During the night his talented roommate died, and Yossarian decided that he had followed him far enough."

Posted by: Roscoe at January 12, 2015 05:15 PM (Xv7f/)

66 I'm only sorry he isn't wearing a mime shirt..., with the message written on his hands.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2015 05:15 PM (l1zOH)

67 When someone can point out to me a muslim organization or government or the such making a contribution to world peace, understanding, or anything good get back to me. Until then fuck them. At least's that is how I feel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 05:15 PM (Zmw74)

68 This fellow on the cover looks like Don Martin of Mad Magazine.

Posted by: The Prophet Some Dope at January 12, 2015 05:15 PM (7GBH9)

69 Idea for U-Tube video: Watch me flush the Koran.

***

Don't forget to wipe first!

Posted by: cool arrow at January 12, 2015 05:16 PM (7XKHI)

70 It's a dig at the Hypocrisy on display.
That's my guess.

Because, you know...they already came out and said "We vomit at you, saying 'You are Charlie'"...to those people who are also making excuses for the Islamists.

So, they're showing Mohamhead himself, holding up an "I am Charlie"sign, as though that erases all the murder that he has caused.

Posted by: wheatie at January 12, 2015 05:16 PM (AQysw)

71
*I really shouldn't have to add this, but sometimes the more thick-headed here jump to conclusions. So I will add that, no, I do not think they deserved to be slaughtered. Their hate and their idiotic cartoons do not bother me because they just stupid fucking cartoons by stupid fucking leftists.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:16 PM (IKE1C)

72 Well, the colors are the classic green and white of arab states (it was supposedly Mohamed's favorate color). This isn'tMohamed, but a generic arab. It also says "Irresponsible Jornalism" in the little box.

I think it is muslims apologizing for what happened. "We apologize -we are Charlie." Pretty weak shit, if you ask me, but then agin, why squander all the good will you just got?

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at January 12, 2015 05:16 PM (F192H)

73 >> I think they're trolling.

No kidding?

>>> Sad Mohammed, willing to bury the hatchet, totally sympathetic. Charlie's saying, "OK, oppose THIS image of Mohammed."

I believe Mo is apologizing for some of his worshipers and Charlie is saying "All is forgiven"


I know they claim they don't worship Moham the Goat Boy. They do.

Posted by: fluffy at January 12, 2015 05:16 PM (Ua6T/)

74 There is no "I" in Jesus!

***

Except in Latin.

Posted by: cool arrow


And Greek

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 05:16 PM (c3xwz)

75 >>Muhammad rode Barack through the seven heavens to meet God.

I had almost forgotten that Big Mo's horse was named Barack.

Barack Hussein Obama. Yea, its a real mystery why he won't hammer Islamic terrorism.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 12, 2015 05:17 PM (g1DWB)

76 I think the cartoon is implying that Obama has brokered the most peaceful time between Muslims and Non Muslims in spite of this most recent tragedy.

Posted by: Josh Earnest at January 12, 2015 05:17 PM (3jmxp)

77 All it lacks is a "?"

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 05:17 PM (vuwaZ)

78 They could have drawn him wearing a "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" t-shirt for the American audience.

Posted by: dogfish at January 12, 2015 05:17 PM (1vYi0)

79 58
Well, there, self appointed Ace's Hall Monitor, I was asking what his sign read - not the headline above his turban.

Posted by: shredded chi at January 12, 2015 05:17 PM (0k2IJ)

80 What religion has a major player that forgives? Three guesses, first two don't count. This cover makes Mohammed an infidel.

Posted by: joefl65 at January 12, 2015 05:17 PM (UFV5W)

81 The way I'm reading it is that Muhammad is saying that he forgives them for their cartoons and stands with them against his terrorists. A pretty subversive message, though sadly untrue.

Posted by: Lauren at January 12, 2015 05:17 PM (lZpRv)

82 What's the deeper meaning? If we can't figure out what they're trying to say, I'd say these Islamic terrorists achieved their goal.

Posted by: WisRich at January 12, 2015 05:17 PM (hdpay)

83 OT: I'm listening to Rubio on Hannity. I cannot emphasize enough how much I despise this little lying POS RINO SOB.

That is all.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 12, 2015 05:18 PM (XzRw1)

84 If we are puzzled by this, imagine how confusing it must be to the paranoid remnants of a decayed civilization.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2015 05:18 PM (l1zOH)

85 i think they are satirizing the sudden outpouring of sympathy by islamists who will only go on to endorse killings tomorrow.

Posted by: avi at January 12, 2015 05:18 PM (viqX2)

86 This cover is the political left's version of irony.

Unless they are Christian and following the tenets of their faith and forgiving their enemies.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 12, 2015 05:18 PM (e9RH/)

87 We must wait for the Imams to tell us what this means.

Posted by: Achmed at January 12, 2015 05:18 PM (l1zOH)

88 D-R-I-N-K-M-O-R-E-O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E

Posted by: Ralphie at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (yn6XZ)

89 If we are puzzled by this, imagine how confusing it must be to the paranoid remnants of a decayed civilization.

Britain?

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (evdj2)

90
Jerry Lewis is a brilliant artiste and now this.

The French are inscrutable. No doubt about it.

Posted by: Radeaminit at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (Xv7f/)

91 Regardless of what it says or means, they have depicted The Prophet and they all must die for it.

Posted by: 40% of the muslim population at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (Nk8XV)

92 I'm pretty sure the message is that Muhammad (SBUH) has a turban shaped like a butt, and he is therefore a butthead.

Posted by: pep at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (4nR9/)

93 Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro!

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (evdj2)

94 "Resist We Much"

?

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (/jpU8)

95 On a tangent, it isn't clear if the Islamic prohibition on religious imagery is a native development or if they got it from the Iconoclast heresy in Byzantium.

The latter started in 730 or so and it doesn't seem that the early Islamic empire was particularly opposed to iconography until around that time.

Early Islam was not as clearly a separate religion from Christianity as it is now...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (78TbK)

96 Of course, it doesn't matter what it says, it's another drawing of Muhammad so, fatwa.

Posted by: Lauren at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (lZpRv)

97 Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 12, 2015 05:18 PM (XzRw1)

Tell us how you really feel. Don't sugar-coat it. I feel that you're holding back.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 12, 2015 05:19 PM (HBAcW)

98 Even leftist cartoons tell the truth once in a while. I like the ones where mohamad is taking up the boute' from a winged barak.

Posted by: Eromero at January 12, 2015 05:20 PM (go5uR)

99 I kinda see this cartoon as Mohammed acknowledging and accepting Jesus.
Which would be in-your-face f*cking hysterical if that's what they're
saying.


Beat me to it. It's subtle, but definitely a WWJD moment.

That being said, I prefer 'angry Jesus' who overturns tables and advocates passive aggressive methods that don't get ya killed.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at January 12, 2015 05:20 PM (zxQ4h)

100 58
Well, there, self appointed Ace's Hall Monitor, I was asking what his sign read - not the headline above his turban.
Posted by: shredded chi


I said unconventional. But if you mean the sign, it has been all over the internet for a week.

Posted by: dogfish at January 12, 2015 05:20 PM (1vYi0)

101 >>The way I'm reading it is that Muhammad is saying that he forgives them for their cartoons and stands with them against his terrorists. A pretty subversive message, though sadly untrue.

Thats the way I read it too, including the part about it being untrue.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 12, 2015 05:20 PM (g1DWB)

102
You guys are way off base.

The cartoon is about how EVERYONE who "je suises" with Charlie are as insincere as if the supreme muslim had said it.

They're very bitter at Charlie Hedbo. And rotten. Bitter and rotten people who draw cartoons.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:21 PM (IKE1C)

103 ALL IS FORGIVEN??!!??

Posted by: Al Sharpton at January 12, 2015 05:21 PM (HBAcW)

104 Look we stand for their right to say whatever. But did they really have to be so uncouth, lousy in style , and almost asking for the killing they got?

i mean of course killing was wrong, but such low class discourse should not be added to freedom of speech , because classless! where's the gentle poke of humor?

me channeling the left this week

Posted by: willow at January 12, 2015 05:21 PM (nqBYe)

105 je suis = I am

Posted by: brak at January 12, 2015 05:21 PM (Tj+s6)

106 What they should have done would have been a cartoon of a little muslim boy wearing a suicide vest holding that sign with the Profit next to him pointing a AK at him.

Posted by: Josh Earnest at January 12, 2015 05:21 PM (3jmxp)

107 I read the Wiki on Charlie Hebdo, which makes an expert in the vein of Ezra Klein. Ahyhow, the mag apparently self-identifies as hard left. It went so far as to circulate a petition to ban the National Front.

You'd think just this once the left could fight for free speech for a fellow-traveler. Instead, we get the "I'm all in favor of free speech, but....." The concept of "hate speech" is pernicious - it always devolves into "hate speech equals speech I don't like."

Posted by: duke at January 12, 2015 05:21 PM (ChY2Q)

108
4 I don't get it? Are they forgiving the mohammadens?
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at January 12, 2015 05:03 PM (Bn6aD)


Could it be meant sarcastically? You know "oh some Muslims held up a sign supporting so yeah now we're totally cool after they just killed a bunch of us."


a similar response to what we have to hashtag diplomacy.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 12, 2015 05:21 PM (z/Ubi)

109 Conditional sympathy is a universal trait. And fear of Islam makes cowards of many. Put the two together and you have people looking for any excuse to at least partially blame Charlie Hebdo. After all, they can't bring themselves to think that it could happen to them too.

Until it does.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 12, 2015 05:21 PM (XmOA9)

110 For the record, the drawing of "Mohammed" isn't really a problem for them.

Suppose you draw Saladin having a harem of young boys. Or Aisha at age 9 looking in terror at a rapist off-state.

They're an honor culture, and they don't care if Mohammed is insulted, they care that *they* are insulted.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 12, 2015 05:22 PM (L2xDv)

111 WHAT WAS POINT?

Posted by: The Who Was Phone Guy at January 12, 2015 05:22 PM (vgIRn)

112 I think the "All is forgiven" headline is meant sarcastically. Muslim leaders (the very same who support or at least condone Islamism in their home states) are merely pretending to genuflect at the altar of free self-expression. This cover calls them out for their hypocrisy.

In other words, Islamists murdered us, but then they turned around and said, "I Am Charlie." So all is forgiven.

That's how I read it anyway.

Posted by: j11e13 at January 12, 2015 05:22 PM (n/JT6)

113 "I am Charlie.....Bring on the 9 year old girls! I'm packing heat!"

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 12, 2015 05:22 PM (AC0lD)

114 I think it's another poke in the eye towards Islamists
Of course they don't care they they killed 11 ?) people (That was the intention) and they don't feel they have anything they need to be forgiven for.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 05:22 PM (DXzRD)

115
I think they're admitting France has been overrun by a bunch of dickhead Mohammedans.

Posted by: Zombie Winston at January 12, 2015 05:22 PM (Xv7f/)

116 "They're very bitter at Charlie Hedbo. And rotten. Bitter and rotten people who draw cartoons."

So they're like that Madcow dude, huh?

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:23 PM (/jpU8)

117 I see that it is Recreation Time at the Nervous Hospital.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2015 05:23 PM (l1zOH)

118

I think it's their approval for this year's Super Bowl halftime show.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:24 PM (IKE1C)

119 On a tangent, it isn't clear if the Islamic prohibition on religious imagery is a native development or if they got it from the Iconoclast heresy in Byzantium.

Similar to "the third holiest site in Islam" being Jerusalem.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 12, 2015 05:24 PM (L2xDv)

120 So that's their first reaction. A f*** you instead of a thank you. Well, f*** you, too, Charlie Hedbo.

Posted by: Soothsayer


Oh, okay. So they should just be fine with a bunch of preening posers exploiting this barbarism to pretend they're courageous and stuff for holding a candle? Where's their gratitude?

Posted by: pep at January 12, 2015 05:24 PM (4nR9/)

121 They should have had a pic of Mo holding a sign that said Hairy Reed is my kind of guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 12, 2015 05:24 PM (g1DWB)

122 Aside from Abbas who showed up at the march are there any other Muslims who expressed regret about this? The radical islamists in France sure as heck weren't marching..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 05:25 PM (DXzRD)

123 <<Jerry Lewis is a brilliant artiste and now this.
>>

Indeed. THIS was the day the clown cried...

Posted by: SGT York at January 12, 2015 05:25 PM (gjaCP)

124 Couldn't read all the comments so this has probably already been put out there: "Mohammed himself would've been horrified by the actions of those terrorists because that's not really Islam."

D'oh.

Posted by: jd at January 12, 2015 05:25 PM (ROXo4)

125 "Tout est pardonne" I think means "All is forgiven" but it's been decades since French classes.


-----------------------------------------


Is this anything like "toot sweet"?

Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2015 05:25 PM (qbgxo)

126 #IWillHoldSignsWithYou

Posted by: Fabulist Twat at January 12, 2015 05:26 PM (l1zOH)

127 Someone may have already said this in comments, but my impression is it means that since Mohammed is holding up a "Je suis Charlie" sign, then the magazine has forgiven him. As such, if all Muslims accepted the concept of free speech and solidarity with those who exercise it, then they, too, would have all forgiven, and we all could live in peace and harmony.

Posted by: elaine at January 12, 2015 05:26 PM (Y0Piu)

128
ALL muslims can be forgiven just as soon as you show me the myriad of Christian riots, beheadings and general acts of malice following satiric portrayals of Christ.

Until then fuck that malevolent cult of deranged animals.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 12, 2015 05:26 PM (jeCnD)

129 "On a tangent, it isn't clear if the Islamic prohibition on religious imagery is a native development"

Given the cultural basis for Islam, I'd go with "yes, it is native in nature".

Those great Levant artworks prior to the 600s really stand out, don't they?

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:26 PM (/jpU8)

130 They're spoofing Jen Psaki.

Posted by: Vladimir at January 12, 2015 05:27 PM (yn6XZ)

131 Is this anything like "toot sweet"?
Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2015 05:25 PM (qbgxo)




Antagonize the Ewok at your peril, monsieur.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at January 12, 2015 05:27 PM (vgIRn)

132
#soup du jour charlie

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:27 PM (IKE1C)

133 "ALL muslims can be forgiven just as soon as you show me the myriad of Christian riots, beheadings and general acts of malice following satiric portrayals of Christ."

Google "Iconoclasm"

Posted by: Chris Balsz at January 12, 2015 05:27 PM (kTWS+)

134 Aside from Abbas who showed up at the march are there any other Muslims who expressed regret about this? The radical islamists in France sure as heck weren't marching..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 05:25 PM (DXzRD)


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If what I heard is true, they were there at the gathering being irreverent and ragey.

Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2015 05:27 PM (qbgxo)

135 124

Don't care what anyone says. Lewis had the best physical comedy scene of all time in Sailor Beware. And is it ironic that this Jew is the most beloved comedian / person in France?

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 12, 2015 05:28 PM (3jmxp)

136 <<That being said, I prefer 'angry Jesus' who overturns tables and advocates passive aggressive methods that don't get ya killed.>>

I prefer his Dad's methods: smite the fuckers.

Posted by: SGT York at January 12, 2015 05:28 PM (gjaCP)

137 Somebody needs to start a gofundme site for the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists because their drawing skills stink. Even though they don't share the politics of Michael Ramirez maybe he could give them lessons in cartooning.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 05:28 PM (DXzRD)

138 Je ne comprends pas.

Posted by: Le Drill Thrawl at January 12, 2015 05:28 PM (xtpUs)

139 looks to me like big mo is crying and saying he is sorryand he is Charlie

and the magazine above says "all is forgiven"

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (zOTsN)

140 Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2015 05:27 PM (qbgxo)

So they were marching but obviously not for the same reasons.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (DXzRD)

141 How long before Josh Earnest comes out and calls on Charlie Hebdo to be "responsible"? As in, "grow up and control your own speech so we don't have to, you crazy kids!".

Posted by: MTF at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (6um35)

142 Is this anything like "toot sweet"?
Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2015 05:25 PM (qbgxo)




Antagonize the Ewok at your peril, monsieur.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains



Best done before 9 am.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (JP4JT)

143 "ALL muslims can be forgiven just as soon as you show me the myriad of Christian riots, beheadings and general acts of malice following satiric portrayals of Christ"

THE CRUSADES, YOU H8TER!!!

/libfools

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (/jpU8)

144 #39 My take is the same as yours.

It shows Mohammed crying and holding up a "I am Charlie" sign, so: Mohammed does not approve of the violence and stands with the other people holding up "I am Charlie" signs, i.e. people opposed to the violence.

The "all is forgiven" makes the most sense if you read it as Mohammed saying he forgives Charlie for making fun of him. That would reinforce the above message.

If Charlie wanted to go the "F*** YOU" route, they could have drawn a cartoon of Mohammed giving a thumbs-up to guys shooting up a building labeled "Charlie Hebdo" with a sarcastic caption saying "THE RELIGION OF PEACE" or some such. And I really wouldn't have blamed them very much.

P.S. Once the issue actually comes out, perhaps there will be an editorial or something that spells it out and we won't have to speculate.

Posted by: who is that? at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (O7l6D)

145
If Charlie Hebdo really wanted to be edgy and get some attention, the cover of this issue would have shown Obama in a racially stereotypical fashion having unconsented carnal knowledge of Marianne.

But Charlie only surfs left.

Posted by: Lt. Col. Kilgore at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (Xv7f/)

146 We going to have a football thread?


Go Buckeyes.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (0FSuD)

147
D-R-I-N-K-M-O-R-E-O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E
****
LOL! A crummy commercial?

Posted by: Lea at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (lIU4e)

148 66 I'm only sorry he isn't wearing a mime shirt..., with the message written on his hands.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2015 05:15 PM (l1zOH)



Writing shit on your hands is totally mine.

Well, mine and Jim Messina's.

Posted by: Jennifer Psaki at January 12, 2015 05:30 PM (oKE6c)

149 102
You guys are way off base.

The cartoon is about how EVERYONE who "je suises" with Charlie are as insincere as if the supreme muslim had said it.

They're very bitter at Charlie Hedbo. And rotten. Bitter and rotten people who draw cartoons.
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:21 PM (IKE1C)



Yea, I'm not reading anything nice into this at all. I don't pretend to understand it, but I DO know whatever they mean is NOT intended to give anyone the warm fuzzies.

I personally think they're more upset that the massacre gives credence and support to the positions of those they deem "far right" than they are about the actual loss of their co-workers.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 05:30 PM (5knmJ)

150 Let's be honest here, first, you have Charlie Hebdo... this radical, left-wing comic book or magazine or whatever you'd like to call it, mocking one of the great religions of the world. Some call the cartoons "satire." C'mon, I think it's a bridge too far personally, but we've got this other issue of freedom of speech. And on the other hand you've got far right websites like Ace of Spaces HQ. Its banner blatantly states something about "...hoisting the black flag, and begin slitting throats." What is that about? What is that about? I'll tell you. It tells me they have more in common with ISIS than they would let on. I mean, how more blatant can you get? It's one more dog-whistle racist slap against our first black president.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at January 12, 2015 05:30 PM (8TdcF)

151 "Mohammed himself would've been horrified by the actions of those terrorists because that's not really Islam."

D'oh.

Posted by: jd at January 12, 2015 05:25 PM (ROXo4)

Mohammed himself exterminated entire peoples. See: Jews, Qurayza.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at January 12, 2015 05:30 PM (fwARV)

152
The guy at Charlie Hedbo was very upset that the pope, the pope of all people, would dare express his sympathy for his slain colleagues.

He said he "vomits" on the pope. And the queen.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:30 PM (IKE1C)

153 Je ne comprends pas.



Jenna said what?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2015 05:31 PM (JP4JT)

154 From zombie's Mohammad image archive:

http://tinyurl.com/o2kl2je

Many examples of him being depicted going back to at least the 1300s.

PS -- When you try and tease out details about who exactly zombie is, keep in mind this archive is plenty of reason for muslims to want zombie dead.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 12, 2015 05:31 PM (Nk8XV)

155 >>So that's their first reaction. A fuck you instead of a thank you. Well, fuck you, too, Charlie Hedbo.

I think they're saying f%ck you to the johnny-come-lately's who are supporting them now but didn't do anything (or even notice, such as the US MSM) when Charlie was doing this back in 2006 and getting sued, and in 2012 and getting bombed. The MSM in general was not all Je Suis Charlie when they were one of the few publications willing to reprint the Danish Mohammed cartoons.

The vomit comment seems right in line with their let's skewer everyone approach. It's what they do, it's who they are.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 12, 2015 05:31 PM (ABcz/)

156 Are they forgiving the Mohammedans for killing their staff?


What a lame cover, but they will sell 3 million copies, more than their entire circulation last year.



Posted by: Nip Sip at January 12, 2015 05:31 PM (0FSuD)

157 Jenna said what?"

Qwah. Jennie said Qwah.

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:31 PM (/jpU8)

158 That graphic--Has Drudge been hacked by ISIS?

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 12, 2015 05:32 PM (XzRw1)

159 I think the message is pretty clear.

Mohammed is saying All is Forgiven, but also Je Suis Charlie, and in tears, so the figure is saying My followers made a hash of everything. Yes, what you did with the cartoons was insulting, but *this* is beyond the pale so I stand with YOU.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at January 12, 2015 05:32 PM (3ZtZW)

160
Posted by: Chris Matthews

Well done. I could hear his voice and see the spittle fly from the corners of his mouth.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:32 PM (IKE1C)

161 Many Western Non-Muslims think they would stand up to the cowards of Islam.

Ask yourself... Would you declare Christ as your Savior or reaffirm your Jewish faith if they were threatening your neck?

It would be tough to choose the dull sword.

This should not be a question to consider in this day and time.

Glass. Make the rubble bounce.

Who are the cowards?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 05:33 PM (vuwaZ)

162 156 Are they forgiving the Mohammedans for killing their staff?


What a lame cover, but they will sell 3 million copies, more than their entire circulation last year.



Posted by: Nip Sip at January 12, 2015 05:31 PM (0FSuD)


I believe it's meant to be read sarcastically.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 12, 2015 05:33 PM (z/Ubi)

163 Living in Paris 2002-2004 I told my friends it would burn within 5 years- so it has been 10. These people were virulently anti-Jewish when I lived there. Actually caught in a riot in our car trying to get home one evening with violent protesters on one side and Police on other preventing them from storming the local Synagogue. It was terrifying.
From this perspective I believe this is saying that because Mo is holding the "I am Charlie" sign that all is forgiven- that Mo can be forgiven for everything just because he brandishes the sign- a comment perhaps on the people/press too cowardly to cover violent islamists for fear of being called "insensitive or islamophobic"

Posted by: lb at January 12, 2015 05:33 PM (iK+VM)

164 Most of the people who work at the magazine are pieces of shit. Communists and assorted leftie turds.

I'm not coming to the conclusion that they deserved it because rayciss or colonialist or whatever the slime on the left is saying.

But let's not forget these people were not are friends.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 12, 2015 05:33 PM (oFCZn)

165 Similar to "the third holiest site in Islam" being Jerusalem.
***
Oh no, that one is entirely clear. They made it up to justify conquering it.

The Caliphate only started claiming that Jerusalem was the "farthest mosque" mentioned in the Koran in 715 - a century after the formation of Islam and decades after they conquered it.

Odd to suddenly discover at that point, no?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 12, 2015 05:33 PM (78TbK)

166 67 When someone can point out to me a muslim organization or government or the such making a contribution to world peace, understanding, or anything good get back to me. Until then fuck them. At least's that is how I feel
________________________

The Egyptian president, al-Sisi, made a speech the other day in which he called for a reformation of Islam. He deserves props for this, because it was a dangerous thing for him to do. He asked the imams to stop preaching their hatred, and said it was time that Muslims around the world took a long hard look at what their religion has become.

Muslims believe the Qu'ran is perfect, but the fact is that it was written by many different people, relying on oral accounts from people far removed from the original source. Also, the hadiths, or interpretations of the Qu'ran, were written by religious scholars, many of whom had their own biases and agendas. It's pretty obvious that a lot of this stuff has become corrupted over the centuries.

The Egyptian president has at least had the stones to say that Muslims need to take a look at this situation and discuss among themselves how they came to this place where the rest of the world fears and reviles them. It has long needed to be said, and this guy finally stepped up and said it. We'll find out if his words have any impact, or if he just ends up dead like so many others who have dared to criticize Islam.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 12, 2015 05:34 PM (2ruKl)

167 Posted by: GnuBreed at January 12, 2015 05:31 PM (Nk8XV

That's why I don't understand his aversion to guns. Of course it's his choice and he does not advocate for any gun control that I know of.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 12, 2015 05:34 PM (3jmxp)

168 Blaming Rome for France allowing Islamists to establish mini-States within France? Gotta love the Old World.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 12, 2015 05:34 PM (2cS/G)

169 157 Jenna said what?"

Qwah. Jennie said Qwah.

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:31 PM (/jpU


Bwahahahahahha

Posted by: Le Drill Thrawl at January 12, 2015 05:34 PM (xtpUs)

170 I just hope we don't have to listen to the NYT lecturing Charlie Hebdo on "the right way to act"

Posted by: MTF at January 12, 2015 05:35 PM (6um35)

171
I think the cover is trying to say that Charlie Hebdo forgives Mohammed because Mohammed has allied with Charlie in supposedly condemning the massacre.

(Man, talk about whistling past the graveyard.)

Posted by: Roscoe at January 12, 2015 05:35 PM (Xv7f/)

172 How do we know that is supposed to be Mohammed?
Could be Ulysses S. Grant wearing a chef hat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 12, 2015 05:35 PM (W5DcG)

173 UVA's approach would have Charlie Hebdo signing a pledge to help thwart 'offensive' cartoons. Muslim monitors required.

Posted by: Fabulist Twat at January 12, 2015 05:35 PM (l1zOH)

174 32 joe

That's DR Amy Bishop!

Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at January 12, 2015 05:35 PM (1brdf)

175 >>So that's their first reaction. A fuck you instead of a thank you. Well, fuck you, too, Charlie Hedbo.

I think they're saying f%ck you to the johnny-come-lately's who are supporting them now but didn't do anything (or even notice, such as the US MSM) when Charlie was doing this back in 2006 and getting sued, and in 2012 and getting bombed.

---

Yeah, I think that's closest to the mark.

Posted by: Y-not at January 12, 2015 05:35 PM (9BRsg)

176 maybe its a way of telling the muj's that they should call things off and back away now that theve riled not only the french but all of europe and if they dont theyll have to face the sleeping giant they awakened or something

anything else doesnt make sense to an american like myself
of course the previous cartoons i either didnt get at all or thought they were hysterically funny-like the one where muhammad was telling the muslim that was about to behead him IM THE PROPHET ASSHOLE!!

THAT was funny...i dont care where youre from...

Posted by: sound awake at January 12, 2015 05:36 PM (fKOqs)

177 Is Mohammed a Ballscalpian?

Posted by: Gunslinger at January 12, 2015 05:36 PM (4S7hN)

178 >> Chris Matthews

Loved you on Good Wife last night. Good look at that huge bald spot on the back of you head when you walked out of the scene.

Posted by: Aviator at January 12, 2015 05:36 PM (3rrMW)

179 I don't think their is a 'punchline' here. I think it's just a mash-up of memes to both remind their readers without actually having a point. It's too conventional to be clear and make a rational point.

Basically, they all smoked ten bowls and then drew the most 'profound' thing that came to mind.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 05:36 PM (c3xwz)

180
I think the cover is a rebuke of the officiating at the football game yesterday.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:36 PM (IKE1C)

181 Mohammed is crying because his ally in the destruction of the West (Charlie Hebdo) was attacked by his followers.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 12, 2015 05:36 PM (V70Uh)

182 Go Buckeyes.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 12, 2015 05:29 PM (0FSuD)

-------------

Hmmm, well, I've heard rumors that the Florida State defensive linemen are still passing blood in their urine one week later. So, I guess we'll see what happens tonight.

Posted by: Not an Artist at January 12, 2015 05:37 PM (uRumV)

183 >>I believe this is saying that because Mo is holding the "I am Charlie"
sign that all is forgiven- that Mo can be forgiven for everything just
because he brandishes the sign- a comment perhaps on the people/press
too cowardly to cover violent islamists for fear of being called
"insensitive or islamophobic"


That kind of makes sense.

When they published the Danish Mohammed cartoons they included one of their own on the cover that depicted Mohammed covering his eyes and saying "It's hard being loved by jerks."

Posted by: Lizzy at January 12, 2015 05:37 PM (ABcz/)

184 Hey, Gerry Trudeau, the jihadis say you're their bitch.

Posted by: --- at January 12, 2015 05:37 PM (MMC8r)

185 It would be tough to choose the dull sword. This should not be a question to consider in this day and time. Glass. Make the rubble bounce. Who are the cowards?
Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 05:33 PM (vuwaZ)


-------------------------------------------


Actually, the choice is much easier in today's world.

Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2015 05:37 PM (qbgxo)

186 Shouldn't that sign read: Je suis Barree?

Posted by: wth at January 12, 2015 05:38 PM (wAQA5)

187 Still don't get it, but Ialso don't get the French love for Jerry Lewis.

Posted by: LASue at January 12, 2015 05:38 PM (pWeX5)

188 Sabrina Rubin Erdeley has gotten away with hiding from reporters. I wish somebody could get her on the record, or at least film her running away from a camera. We can't let her off the hook.

Posted by: MTF at January 12, 2015 05:38 PM (6um35)

189 THE CRUSADES, YOU H8TER!!!

***
It is interesting that Islam was born via Holy War...it took the Christians about 400 years to adopt the notion of Jihad as a Crusade, and even then Crusades were mostly defensive in nature, at least until the Germanic crusades against the Wends.

Spain, Italy, Tunis, Egypt, Israel, Asia Minor, and Syria had all been core Christian regions until Islam conquered them.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 12, 2015 05:38 PM (78TbK)

190
I still maintain they are sending a clear message with this cover cartoon: All the "je suis" crap is meaningless to us.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:38 PM (IKE1C)

191 The cover is expressing support for President Obama.

Posted by: John Harwood at January 12, 2015 05:38 PM (OD2ni)

192 So, are Frozen Peach Bellini's a bad thing? Freeze Peaches for everyone!

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 12, 2015 05:38 PM (6hrmc)

193
Things I never thought I would say:
Go Ducks!

Posted by: LASue at January 12, 2015 05:39 PM (pWeX5)

194 The cartoon is stupid. Remember, the A-team of Charlie Bebdo cartoonists were killed. This was put together by the second string.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 12, 2015 05:39 PM (V70Uh)

195 Charlie Hebdo cover interpreted.

Scorpion. Frog. It's my nature.

Attribute the sentiment of "Je suis, Charlie" to Mohammed and his followers at the risk of your life.

Posted by: Andy at January 12, 2015 05:39 PM (Xv7f/)

196 Posted by: 18-1 at January 12, 2015 05:38 PM (78TbK)

There was also a Crusade that was Christian against Christian . I forget what number.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 12, 2015 05:40 PM (3jmxp)

197 Posted by: 18-1 at January 12, 2015 05:38 PM (78TbK)

There was also a Crusade that was Christian against Christian . I forget what number.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 12, 2015 05:40 PM (3jmxp)

198

Jesus weeps.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 12, 2015 05:40 PM (IXrOn)

199 I'm funny and I don't get it. Jello Pudding Pops won't return my calls. WTF?

Posted by: Bill Cosby at January 12, 2015 05:40 PM (5voqw)

200
If Charlie Hedbo were smart, their cover wouldn't have been a silly cartoon, but a photo of their lost colleagues: WE Are Charlie Hedbo

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:41 PM (IKE1C)

201 He's saying EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED

Posted by: Alistair Crowley at January 12, 2015 05:41 PM (3ZtZW)

202 Is Mohammed a Ballscalpian?



Yes
From the Isle of Manspread.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2015 05:41 PM (JP4JT)

203

The cover means it is all Bush's fault.

Posted by: Unified Field Theory of All Magazine Cover Interpretation at January 12, 2015 05:41 PM (Xv7f/)

204 So, MSN says today is the "no pants" subway ride day. What is with that? Girls stripped down to underwear riding the subway? Makes manspreading look tame.

Posted by: MTF at January 12, 2015 05:41 PM (6um35)

205 It's manyfold - but the magazine is saying, "You who are showing solidarity with us who are not communist - you are the same as the murderers. We are the only ones who have the right to free speech - you who are not us do not because you are not able to say the correct leftist things - therefore you are muderous monsters we hate.
And fuck you, Dad. "

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 12, 2015 05:41 PM (scgac)

206 Will someone please give MUMR his damn cigarettes.

Posted by: Randle McMurphy at January 12, 2015 05:42 PM (l1zOH)

207 I originally thought it was a caricature of a stereotypical 'muslim' and the gist of the message was essentially: we don't think all of you are like the ones that did this.

But since it's political satire, it seems to me that they're mocking the entire political establishment, domestic and foreign; they're just using the caricature of Mohammed to emphasize the hypocrisy.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 12, 2015 05:42 PM (60Vyp)

208

or maybe the cartoon means...

GO OHIO!!!

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:42 PM (IKE1C)

209 "Spain, Italy, Tunis, Egypt, Israel, Asia Minor, and Syria had all been core Christian regions until Islam conquered them. "

A vicious rumor spread by Christiantists who just wanted to massacre peaceful tribespeople


/IsawthemovewhereLegolassavedJerusalem

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:43 PM (/jpU8)

210 I'll tell you what though...
: |
This whole affair is ...
: | 8
rather Gauling
8|

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 05:43 PM (c3xwz)

211 see

big mo is holding the "I am Charlie" sign and crying

the magazine is saying "All is Forgiven"

still kind of sucks

its not forgiven and they aren't sorry

the march was just feel goodism

a way to establish your lib bona fides without actually doing anything

where were they when four little kids and their teacher were shot to death outside a jewish school in Toulouse

not marching

its all bullshit

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:43 PM (zOTsN)

212 Iconoclasm wasn't about being upset about satiric depictions of Christ. It was against the use of icons in the Eastern Orthodox church and then it was about too much "Popery" .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 05:43 PM (DXzRD)

213 So is "Everybody Draw Mohammad" back on this year?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 12, 2015 05:44 PM (AC0lD)

214
GO OHIO!!!

======

Is Downton Abbey on tonight?

Posted by: Ed at January 12, 2015 05:44 PM (Xv7f/)

215


Basically, they all smoked ten bowls ate a few brownies and then drew the most 'profound' thing that came to mind.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 05:36 PM (c3xwz)


edibles is the new bowl


Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 12, 2015 05:44 PM (IXrOn)

216 Isn't it possible that it is simply a lame cover.

Jean: "What are we saying here?"

Jaques:"Well..., it's subtle..., existential..."

Jean: "Ah. Okay, let's go with it."

Posted by: Randle McMurphy at January 12, 2015 05:44 PM (l1zOH)

217 Isn't it possible that it is simply a lame cover.

Jean: "What are we saying here?"

Jaques:"Well..., it's subtle..., existential..."

Jean: "Ah. Okay, let's go with it."

Posted by: Randle McMurphy at January 12, 2015 05:44 PM (l1zOH)

218 I think it is Mohammed saying that a sufficient price has been paid now by Charlie Hedbo, what with their 12 staffers being murdered, that now Mohammed will give them a pass on further insults.

In the form of him allowing himself to be portrayed again on the cover, with his nose looking like a cock and his head looking like an old man's ball-sack (as previously mentioned).

Which of course is not true (the forgiveness part, not the ballsack part), since a sufficient price is NEVER enough for the Muzzies, and everyone knows it, including the 3 million simpletons who'll buy this issue.

RIP, Charlie Hedbo. I pity you, and hope your folks' visit to the Pearly Gates wasn't as shocking as I think it might have been.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 12, 2015 05:44 PM (+5q/2)

219 The tear is a giveaway. It means that Mo is standing in solidarity with Iron Eyes Cody about pollution.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 12, 2015 05:45 PM (g1DWB)

220 #9 and #56 are correct, I saw from bbc I believe. Its a 'thanks a lot" to all their new friends who wouldn't lift a finger in support of them before the terrorism but now want to carry the sign.

Posted by: Explainer at January 12, 2015 05:45 PM (Qs8ZN)

221 212 see

big mo is holding the "I am Charlie" sign and crying

the magazine is saying "All is Forgiven"

still kind of sucks

its not forgiven and they aren't sorry

the march was just feel goodism

a way to establish your lib bona fides without actually doing anything

where were they when four little kids and their teacher were shot to death outside a jewish school in Toulouse

not marching

its all bullshit
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:43 PM (zOTsN)






i like

the way you write

but you use

too much

capitalization

Posted by: e.e. cummings at January 12, 2015 05:45 PM (vgIRn)

222

That's really going to p*ss them off, but, more? Nah, they are already maxed out at insane anger and delusion.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 12, 2015 05:46 PM (IXrOn)

223 Will someone please give MUMR his damn cigarettes.Posted by: Randle McMurphy at January 12, 2015 05:42 PM (l1zOH)

He's still orally gratifying Chief. When he comes out chewing day old
Juicy Fruit -- we pounce.

Posted by: Nurse Ratchet with huge empty hypodermic needle at January 12, 2015 05:46 PM (zxQ4h)

224

Yeah, I think many people, even here, are under the impression that Charlie Hedbo focused solely on the Muslim menace.

CH lumps everyone on the Right in with the Muslims.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:46 PM (IKE1C)

225 Early contender for Times Person of Year 2015?

Posted by: fly gal at January 12, 2015 05:47 PM (8TdcF)

226
kind of looks like balls and a dick on mo's head to me

Posted by: kj at January 12, 2015 05:47 PM (lKyWE)

227 dude do you even fatwa

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:47 PM (zOTsN)

228 Wonder who has the mountain bike contract with the Paris police, need to look into that.

maybe underbid them

??

and profit

Posted by: bike gnome at January 12, 2015 05:47 PM (W6iIX)

229

Don't blame me. I wasn't a part of this sh*t.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 12, 2015 05:48 PM (IXrOn)

230 So, MSN says today is the "no pants" subway ride day.

We are Charlie no pants.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 12, 2015 05:48 PM (W5DcG)

231 I have been writing like that ever since pixy started taking spaces away and haven't looked back. I stopped capitalizing cause I am lazy and sometime on my phone.

so


lazy

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:49 PM (zOTsN)

232

The French will go back to hating Jews and harassing Lance Armstrong in a few days.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:49 PM (IKE1C)

233 Bad timing on my part!!
I just came home & have been out all day. I should have looked at clock.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 05:49 PM (sj3Ax)

234 Considering that had a cartoon of of the Father., Son and Holy Spirit having three way sex they're not fans of any religion-yes, but they didn't get killed over the anti Christian cartoons.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 05:49 PM (DXzRD)

235 This is a French humor publication.

The French think that Jerry Lewis is a comedic genius.

If you don't get French humor, that's probably not on you.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 12, 2015 05:49 PM (xN1DB)

236 I don't get it either. Who is forgiven? The murdering muzzies? Well, the only people with the standing to forgive them are DEAD. So that doesn't work for me.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 12, 2015 05:49 PM (WNERA)

237 Yeah I was saying that march was hogwash as soon as I heard about it. It's the elites getting out in front of any possible backlash against them since they're responsible for this shit.

Marches aren't going to solve this problem unless the people marching are soldiers with weapons.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 12, 2015 05:50 PM (oFCZn)

238 has mumr taken on a symbol like Prince in a contract dispute

is he the troll formerly known as mumr?

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:50 PM (zOTsN)

239
*** not available for comment ***

Posted by: Ambassador Stephens at January 12, 2015 05:50 PM (LoIJo)

240 But what about the British in Malaysia in the 50s? Eh?!?

Posted by: Adriane the Etymology Critic ... at January 12, 2015 05:50 PM (P+IZm)

241 There was also a Crusade that was Christian against Christian . I forget what number.
***
It was...but it wasn't the intent.

The Venetians built an expensive fleet for the 4th crusade to ferry a large number of crusaders.

The estimate on numbers was off and the ones who showed up couldn't pay.

So the Venetians offered them a deal - work for us and we'll let you use our fleet...

First the Venetians used them to attack a city called Zara...and the pope excommunicated everyone.

Then one of the crusaders met with a Byzantine claimant to the throne who promised the crusaders and Venetians a fortune and help in the Crusades...if they put him on the throne.

They went to Constantinople and put him on the throne after looting the place...where he couldn't deliver on this promises and the Empire descended into chaos...

So they hadn't intended to attack fellow Christians so it was more a comedy of errors...and greed...then really a change in how Crusades were defined...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 12, 2015 05:51 PM (78TbK)

242 "Marches aren't going to solve this problem unless the people marching are soldiers with weapons."

H8TESPEECH!!!!

/libtalkingpointoftheday

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 12, 2015 05:51 PM (/jpU8)

243 They should have gone with a giant hog sodomizing little MO

Posted by: Larry Flynt at January 12, 2015 05:51 PM (LoIJo)

244 Meh.

I agree with the above comment that it's simply a lame cover.

To keep their satirical cred, they couldn't totally fold.

So....this....such as it is.


If they really wanted to give the finger to the muslim terrorists,

almost anything involving Mohammed and a pig would do...eating, sex, whatevs.

But, nope.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 12, 2015 05:51 PM (0cMkb)

245 Ace, the surviving editors were skeptical of the sudden outpouring of new-found friends of the We Are Charlie movement from the same folks who used to hate them, such as the Left and Vladimir Putin -- remember the "We vomit on them" remark? The ultimate new-found friend is Muhammad himself, underlining their skepticism that all their new Friends are committed to the kind of speech that Charlie practices.

Posted by: Ex Planer at January 12, 2015 05:51 PM (sGGMH)

246

hey, everyone, Masturbatin Pete is back!


Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:51 PM (IKE1C)

247 "My take:

Big Mo is saying all is forgiven for the Charlie folks for poking fun at him - that the violence Islamists are implementing in his name is not what he would want. "

That was my take too. And if that's the correct take, it's bullshit.

I've been looking at CH cartoons for the past 2 days now. Their stock-in-trade seems to be juvenile scatological and sexual blasphemy and much more of it was directed at Christianity than Islam. I've seen badly drawn cartoons of the Christ child coming out of Mary's vagina and a nun using a crucifix as a sex toy. Now, unlike Bill Donahoe, I think they have the right to publish those things and to do so without being murdered or imprisoned or shut down.

But I'm not going to pretend that crappy Charlie Hebdo cartoons are the equivalent of Moliere or Swift. Their idea of "satire" appears to be drawing an obscene picture of whoever they don't like - which is a 6th grader's idea of satire.

The only thing I can say in their favor is that they occasionally targeted the Muslims and didn't back down even after being threatened.



Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 05:51 PM (+XMAD)

248

We're still down one Pete -- Furious Pete.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:52 PM (IKE1C)

249 asically, they all smoked ten bowls and then drew the most 'profound' thing that came to mind.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 05:36 PM (c3xwz)


And there ya go.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 05:52 PM (5knmJ)

250 231 I have been writing like that ever since pixy started taking spaces away and haven't looked back. I stopped capitalizing cause I am lazy and sometime on my phone.

so


lazy
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:49 PM (zOTsN)




so much depends
upon

a capricious
pixy

glazed with valu-rite

doing unspeakable things to
chickens

Posted by: William Carlos Williams at January 12, 2015 05:53 PM (vgIRn)

251 Should have been three words

Hiroshima
Nagasaki
Mecca

Posted by: Curtis LeMay at January 12, 2015 05:53 PM (LoIJo)

252 mumr should draw for them

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:53 PM (zOTsN)

253 weed's legal in france?

Posted by: colorado at January 12, 2015 05:53 PM (W6iIX)

254

Donna, so they express hate for everyone on the Right and all religions, right?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:53 PM (IKE1C)

255 William carlos Williams your hash looks like you are a vag nurse

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:54 PM (zOTsN)

256 On 26 April 1996, Francois Cavanna, Stephane Charbonnier and Philippe Val filed 173,704 signatures,
obtained in 8 months, with the aim of banning the political party Front National.
They claimed the parties contravened articles 1, 2, 4, 6 and 7 of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen.

Stephane Charbonnier was the current editor of Charlie Hebdo and was murdered in the Jihadist attack.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 12, 2015 05:54 PM (W5DcG)

257 Where's your third antichrist now?

Posted by: Nostradamus at January 12, 2015 05:54 PM (LoIJo)

258 we now have a grammarian now?

Posted by: Name* at January 12, 2015 05:54 PM (W6iIX)

259


Where's Waldo the goats?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 12, 2015 05:55 PM (IXrOn)

260 I aint got time to capitalize

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:55 PM (zOTsN)

261
Stephane Charbonnier was the current editor of Charlie Hebdo and was murdered in the Jihadist attack.

Yeah.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:57 PM (IKE1C)

262 With all the talent in Europe you would think they could find someone who could actually draw better than a sixth grader.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 12, 2015 05:57 PM (W5DcG)

263 Ace, I think you'll understand exactly who Charlie Hebdo is (was) and what their "humor" is/was all about, if you have the stomach to view their version of the Christian Holy Trinity:

http://tinyurl.com/C-Hebdo-sViewoftheTrinity

They aren't about humor. They are about setting themselves up as the cool kids who can get away with insulting and hurting as many people as possible with their cartoons, in the guise of "speaking truth to power", in this case by their depicting the Persons of the Holy Trinity sodomizing each other, because, I guess, Christianity hasn't yet "got on all fours" with the progressive homosexual agenda.

The Charlie Hebdo folks took steps to protect themselves after they insulted Prophet SayShit, Mohammed, but didn't think they were in any real danger because nobody else whose been insulted by them has ever tried to hurt them. And, of course, because it is INSANE to hurt someone "back" just because of a drawing that makes you mad.

Not folks to be emulated. Not folks doing anything even remotely "noble" in any way. And not folks who deserved their fates.

Again, they are to be pitied for the world-view that allows them to think that what they do is "cool" or somehow noble, mourned for their untimely passings, and their souls and their families prayed for.

The whole thing is just a mess.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 12, 2015 05:57 PM (+5q/2)

264 liberty includes the freedom to be an asshole and not be killed for it

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:58 PM (zOTsN)

265 The No Pants Subway Ride is an annual event staged by Improv Everywhere
every January in New York City. The mission started as a small prank
with seven guys and has grown into an international celebration of
silliness, with dozens of cities around the world participating each
year. The idea behind No Pants is simple: Random passengers board a
subway car at separate stops in the middle of winter without pants. The
participants behave as if they do not know each other, and they all
wear winter coats, hats, scarves, and gloves. The only unusual thing is
their lack of pants.


So stupid prank + social media = hipsters who wanna all be original and unconventional together!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 12, 2015 05:58 PM (ABcz/)

266 I don't get it. I guess it's saying that they won't apologize and if anyone should apologize it should be Mohammed. And they accept his apology, further needling the Muslim radicals by putting words in Mohamed's mouth... I guess. Talk about a swing and a miss.

Posted by: Naes at January 12, 2015 05:59 PM (YhayY)

267 Je suis Horny.

Posted by: Pepe Le Horny at January 12, 2015 05:59 PM (UFV5W)

268 @196 There was also a Crusade that was Christian against Christian . I forget what number.
----------------------

The Fourth Crusade got repurposed. The organizers ordered a large quantity of ships from Venice to transport all of the Crusaders that they expected to come. But when the time came, the organizers only had about half the funds that they needed. So in order to keep the Venetian economy from collapsing (on account of a rather large number of ships that had been built on credit), some of the leaders of Venice effectively took control of the Crusade and used it to help with some problem areas in the region. One of those problem areas happened to be the city of Byzantium, which was a regional rival.

Posted by: junior at January 12, 2015 05:59 PM (UWFpX)

269 I getting the meaning as "Now that you're all safely dead, we forgive you."

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 12, 2015 06:00 PM (DLu2s)

270 Bodies of Paris kosher mart victims to arrive in Israel
Ahead of state funeral for four Jews killed in Hyper Cacher, stores owner says he will sell business and make aliyah to Israel.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4614433,00.html

Walid said he believed some ten thousands French Jews will make aliyah this year. When there are attacks, it is best for Jews to be in the State of Israel there is no place like Israel.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:00 PM (Zmw74)

271 I don't get it. Anything less than showing a cartoon of mohammad with a nuke up his ass is a fail.

Posted by: Havedash at January 12, 2015 06:00 PM (ZlE0f)

272 ??Again, they are to be pitied for the world-view that allows them to
think that what they do is "cool" or somehow noble, mourned for their
untimely passings, and their souls and their families prayed for.

How are they different from the South Park guys?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 12, 2015 06:01 PM (ABcz/)

273 Gotta blame it on something
Blame it on the rain (that finally falling)
Blame it on the stars (that shines at night)
Whatever you do don't put the blame on you
Blame it on the rain yeah yeah
You can blame it on the rain
Cause the rain don't mind
And the rain don't care

Posted by: Milli Vannili at January 12, 2015 06:02 PM (e8kgV)

274
Charlie Hedbo hated the Haters.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:03 PM (IKE1C)

275 257 Where's your third antichrist now?


Posted by: Nostradamus at January 12, 2015 05:54 PM (LoIJo)


Heh. I read this and think of Edward G. Robinson in the Ten Commandments.
Standing at the edge of the Red Sea, about to be over-run by the Egyptians and saying "Eh, where's your God now, Moses?"

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 12, 2015 06:04 PM (XmOA9)

276 Charlie is different than southpark because south park would only run their islam bashing episode once and Charlie never stopped

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:05 PM (zOTsN)

277 Q: Why do ducks have flat feet?
A: For stamping out forest fires.
Q: Why do elephants have flat feet?
A: For stamping out flaming ducks.

I don't know why I put this out there, but every time I think about the Oregon Ducks, I think of this old joke.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 06:05 PM (vVSOO)

278 The top says "Everything is forgiven". The card says "I am Charlie". This implies that Mohammad was in the wrong and is shedding a tear of remorse. He's even jumped on the "I am Charlie" bandwagon.

It's basically giving the finger to Islam. It's so contrary to Islam in every way. From the tears to feeling remorse for infidels to making a cartoon of Mohammad. It's taunting Islam in the way that Leftists are known to taunt people. However, this is unknown in America where the Left defends Islam. But from what I hear, they weren't exactly allied with the Left to begin with. So that would make sense I guess.

Posted by: MrX at January 12, 2015 06:06 PM (if9v9)

279 "How are they different from the South Park guys?"


Parker and Stone don't come off to me as being holier than thou or thinking they're better people for it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 12, 2015 06:06 PM (LA7Cm)

280 277 Charlie is different than southpark because south park would only run their islam bashing episode once and Charlie never stopped
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:05 PM (zOTsN)

ISIS would kill them just the same. If nothing else, they are predictable.

Posted by: Kraken at January 12, 2015 06:06 PM (s+qrv)

281 we need someone to handout t shirts with the bomb hat big mo and have stadiums full of people wearing them. march in those t shirts. then you are Charlie. otherwise its just stupid. like me marching around with a sign saying I am president. no. no I'm not


Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:07 PM (zOTsN)

282
There's no hate in South Park.
Family Guy can get a little hateful, though.

Charlie Hedbo is/was all hate, all the time.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:07 PM (IKE1C)

283 Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 05:53 PM (IKE1C)

Yeah, basically. And they tried to get the National Front banned so apparently their tolerance for free speech went only so far.

If a National Front publication had published insulting images of Mohammad and been attacked as a result, do you think that huge march would have taken place yesterday, with world leaders attending? I suspect it would have been chalked up to "right wing hate mongers got what's coming to them."

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 06:09 PM (+XMAD)

284 But from what I hear, they weren't exactly allied with the Left to begin with. So that would make sense I guess.

Posted by: MrX at January 12, 2015 06:06 PM (if9v9)


I think they are very aligned with the Left. Strongly left-wing.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 06:09 PM (5knmJ)

285 OT.
Paul Ryan isn't going to run for president. That's a relief.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:09 PM (sj3Ax)

286 283
There's no hate in South Park.
Family Guy can get a little hateful, though.

Charlie Hedbo is/was all hate, all the time.
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:07 PM (IKE1C)

Skinny jeans aging commie hipsters.

Posted by: Kraken at January 12, 2015 06:09 PM (s+qrv)

287 I understand the cartoon perfectly, wingnuts. That's because I speak Fwench. Duh.

Posted by: Jean F. LeKerry, Secretairie de'Etat at January 12, 2015 06:10 PM (AcTvz)

288 @146 Nip Sip

"Go Buckeyes."
I second that. Hope I can stay awake on this side of the pond to finish it. Monday night?? Ugh.

Posted by: FSA at January 12, 2015 06:10 PM (u/Fl0)

289 Islam belongs to Germany.

Posted by: Merkel at January 12, 2015 06:10 PM (XzRw1)

290 Charlie says they are aligned with the atheist left. Bill Maher left

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:10 PM (zOTsN)

291 I really, really hate Mondays.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 12, 2015 06:10 PM (OsWis)

292 According to its former editor Stéphane Charbonnier ("Charb"), the magazine's editorial viewpoint reflects "all components of left wing pluralism, and even abstainers".[4]

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 06:11 PM (5knmJ)

293 280

Yes she said that. I say she can keep it.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 12, 2015 06:11 PM (WNERA)

294 *waves to Tammy*

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 12, 2015 06:11 PM (OsWis)

295 How are they different from the South Park guys?



Posted by: Lizzy at January 12, 2015 06:01 PM (ABcz/)


South Park is very funny, and not based on hate.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 12, 2015 06:11 PM (+5q/2)

296 285
OT.

Paul Ryan isn't going to run for president. That's a relief.

Working on his debating skillz?

PS: He was re-elected last year.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 12, 2015 06:12 PM (XzRw1)

297 He's saying - if Musclims are contrite and realize they are Charly too, all will be forgiven.

Posted by: Jake Argyle at January 12, 2015 06:12 PM (iLwjz)

298 It's French Humor and remember they loved Jerry Lewis?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:12 PM (Zmw74)

299 who's this MUMR?

Mirror
Image
Mitt
Romney
?
or am I missing something? His crap gets deleted quick.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 12, 2015 06:12 PM (XmOA9)

300 What tickles me about this whole Charlie thing is how the same lefty goofs that pushed that disgusting choad Larry Flynt as some demigod of free speech suddenly discover that, why, just making crude libelous fun of everybody is really, really mean!!! Especially if some of that everybody are touchy homicidal barbarians.

I'm not supposed to assume that the dough Flynt launders from his rancid quim mag into 'free speech' grants to lefty JournoLists has anything to do with this dichotomy.

But, being a 'maximalist' extremist according Barry, Conqueror of the 18th Hole, I figure Flynt's bought himself some good press.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 12, 2015 06:13 PM (DLu2s)

301 299,

SHHH! Don't summon it!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 12, 2015 06:13 PM (OsWis)

302 Nevergiveup,
Thank you for link.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:13 PM (sj3Ax)

303 I don't see a Jew in site on the magazine cover? Oh well when did they ever give a rat's ass about Jewish Life in France?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:13 PM (Zmw74)

304 "SHHH! Don't summon it!"



He's already been here today. You just missed him.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 12, 2015 06:14 PM (LA7Cm)

305 "Not folks to be emulated. Not folks doing anything even remotely 'noble' in any way. And not folks who deserved their fates."

- - - - -

Damn right. And this is why Je ne suis pas Charlie.

If I'm going to attack Islam, I'm going to be smart about it. I'm not going to blaspheme for the sake of getting a rise out of people. I'm not going to insult good Muslims. I'm not going to give radical Muslims the opportunity to say to good or on-the-fence Muslims: "see what the depraved West is all about!"

I have Muslim friends. While debate with them over religion and politics is something I might want to engage in, I'd never want to insult their most revered figure.

And while I'll defend the right of Charlie Habdo to print this crap, I won't identify with it. I especially won't identify with people who make a mockery of my God. Yeah, they have the right to mock any religion without fear. I support that right 100%. But they are - or were - awful people, and I won't be identified with them, any more than my belief in the right to a fair trial means that I identify with accused murderers.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 12, 2015 06:14 PM (sMEo1)

306 Jerry Lewis probably knows what the cover means.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at January 12, 2015 06:14 PM (+v40j)

307 304,

I saw it...just don't want it to come back.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 12, 2015 06:14 PM (OsWis)

308 I would have preferred a middle finger and the title "I Will Not Submit"

but then I'm not french

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:14 PM (zOTsN)

309 I betcha we hear moar and moar muzzie leaders suggesting the terrorism cut back some. Europe is getting more than a little fed up. What is that back wash? or back blast.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 12, 2015 06:14 PM (WNERA)

310 One Eyed Jack,
He's the 5:15 or so Daily Troll.
He should be gone by now.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:14 PM (sj3Ax)

311 In other good news, I learned that Muhammed's horse's name was Barack, right here on this hyar blog!

I will make good use of that.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 12, 2015 06:14 PM (DLu2s)

312 I only know French from learning to sing opera lately, but that cover is easy to read:

"all is forgiven"

Except obviously it's not. I had hoped that Charlie's historic post-massacre cover would be, as per duty, an insult to the Prophet. My hopes are not disappointed. There are testicles on the Prophet's forehead. And he, ambivalently, is the one saying all is forgiven, while shedding a tear.

Testicles on the forehead is the main thing.

Posted by: musical mountaineer at January 12, 2015 06:15 PM (l/LyS)

313 299...Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 12, 2015 06:12 PM (XmOA9)

Not 'Image'...Universe.
Mirror Universe means "opposite".

Posted by: wheatie at January 12, 2015 06:15 PM (AQysw)

314
The next cover will probably have an ugly cartoon of Merkel and Netanyahu doing something nasty with the pope.

And then all this je suis charlie shit will stop.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:15 PM (IKE1C)

315 Paul Ryan isn't going to run for president. That's a relief.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:09 PM (sj3Ax)



He couldn't even beat that hee-hawing jackass Biden in a debate.


I'm not seeing the downside here.


Posted by: naturalfake at January 12, 2015 06:16 PM (0cMkb)

316 "His crap gets deleted quick."


Former poster who got his assbanned for saying some bad things and creeping on other posters. Now, everyday right around the same time, he tries to post and gets ridiculed and deleted.

Think there's something wrong with the dude.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 12, 2015 06:16 PM (LA7Cm)

317

Testicles??

You see testicles?

I see a turban. If those are testicles, wow, subtle testicles. If they're not testicles, wow, you see a lot of testicles where there are no testicles.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:17 PM (IKE1C)

318 Matty Y says the ticket should be Romney/Ryan

yippee

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:17 PM (zOTsN)

319 Thirty years later, Hattab family loses another member to anti-Semitism
Yoav Hattab, 21, was killed during the kosher supermarket attack in France; his aunt Yehudit Bucharis was killed in 1985 attack in Tunisian synagogue.

Since there are not that many of us, shit like this is bound to happen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:18 PM (Zmw74)

320 Matty Y says the ticket should be Romney/Ryan

***

Nope, the broken clock still leads 2-0.

Posted by: cool arrow at January 12, 2015 06:18 PM (7XKHI)

321
Again, it needs to be pointed out that CH's focus was not solely on insulting Islam. CH insults everyone that is not politically aligned.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:19 PM (IKE1C)

322 "says the ticket should be Romney/Ryan"




Dear God but no.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 12, 2015 06:19 PM (LA7Cm)

323
Think there's something wrong with the dude.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 12, 2015 06:16 PM (LA7Cm)

Kind of an understatement, don't you think?

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 06:19 PM (vVSOO)

324 Meanwhile, the JEF's administration has bigger fish to fry than worry about fanatical goat-rapers bent on western destruction.

Like going after Gen. Petraeus.

So, Al Sharpton owes the gubmint $4.5 mil. *crickets*

Petraeus whispered sweet nothings in his skank's ear, that initially the admin. assured us weren't classified.

Now nothing will do but seeing Petraeus frog-marched in an orange jumpsuit to prison.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2015 06:19 PM (FsuaD)

325 So the newest news is Obama walking in on Reggie Love in bed...with a woman. Uh huh. Sure.

Posted by: Lauren at January 12, 2015 06:19 PM (lZpRv)

326 @232 Soothsayer
"The French will go back to hating Jews and harassing Lance Armstrong in a few days."

As the sun rises in the east, that too shall come around shortly as for as long as they walk lesser Germany-- I mean France.

They will also tell you what great lovers they are to anyone who will listen. It gets embarrassing.

Posted by: Distant Observer at January 12, 2015 06:20 PM (u/Fl0)

327
SHHH! Don't summon it!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 12, 2015 06:13 PM (OsWis)









I think that only happens when you say it's name three times.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 12, 2015 06:20 PM (TIIx5)

328 I would have done a cartoon of Mo getting humped by a pig
But I'm a h8r I guess

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 12, 2015 06:20 PM (Twgay)

329 I really don't care what the meaning is, what's more important is that the radical Islamonazis care even less.

The only thing that can stop Islamists is high calibre ammunition and explosive ordinace.

Anything else is masturbation.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 12, 2015 06:20 PM (h8MpI)

330 Fame attained for just minutes a day. Send in your complaints right away!

Posted by: Stop Sally Struthers before she kills again at January 12, 2015 06:20 PM (FGEvF)

331 324 He was apparently an Obama supporter too.

Posted by: steevy at January 12, 2015 06:20 PM (v5UtH)

332 "Kind of an understatement, don't you think?"



I was being subtle.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 12, 2015 06:20 PM (LA7Cm)

333 um

where did you read about reggie being caught en flagrante delicto?

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:20 PM (zOTsN)

334 Seems obvious to me.

Muslim is holding a sign saying "I am Charlie", and therefore All is Forgiven of Islam.

Nothing else to see here, go back to your daily lives and forget that a bunch of Muslims murdered people.

Or maybe Charlie Hebdo is flying a flag of surrender and saying that the Muslims are forgiven of their murder. (Just look at the sadface!)

Posted by: CM at January 12, 2015 06:20 PM (0NdlF)

335 I read it as a FU to everyone that has come out of the woodwork in support only after people at the publication got killed.

I also took it as a FU to Islam. Depicting the not so prophety Mohammed is what got their people killed. Drawing Mohammed again seems like an odd way to offer an olive branch, especially given the nature of the publication. I read it as basically an FU to everyone, in keeping with the publication's nature such as it is.

Posted by: James at January 12, 2015 06:21 PM (H3Nzo)

336 I'm confused.

Posted by: Charlie Hobo at January 12, 2015 06:21 PM (Dwehj)

337 I have Muslim friends. While debate with them over religion and politics is something I might want to engage in, I'd never want to insult their most revered figure.


They decapitate people alive in the name of their "revered" figure, they send 9 year old girls to be suicide bombers in the name of their "revered" figure, they sanction the rape of kids in the name of their "revered" figure, they commit mass murder in the name of their "revered" figure.

Fuck him and the horse he rode in on also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:21 PM (Zmw74)

338 It does look like balls are on mo's head.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:21 PM (sj3Ax)

339 "where did you read about reggie being caught en flagrante delicto?"

Yahoo. Apparently Reggie thinks it makes them both look good. He's pimping his memoirs in which that story appears. Yahoo is happy to provide a platform.

Posted by: Lauren at January 12, 2015 06:22 PM (lZpRv)

340 314
The next cover will probably have an ugly cartoon of Merkel and Netanyahu doing something nasty with the pope.

And then all this je suis charlie shit will stop.
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:15 PM (IKE1C)

The terrorists made their point. Any publicity is good publicity if you are a terrorist. The West, especially Europe is not up to speed.

Posted by: Kraken at January 12, 2015 06:22 PM (s+qrv)

341 Reggie thinks it makes them both look good. He's pimping his memoirs in
which that story appears. Yahoo is happy to provide a platform.

***

Was the woman Lena Dunham by any chance?

Just curious.

Posted by: cool arrow at January 12, 2015 06:23 PM (7XKHI)

342 "Yahoo. Apparently Reggie thinks it makes them both look good. He's pimping his memoirs in which that story appears"


Barry must have been devastated. Inconsolable.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 12, 2015 06:23 PM (LA7Cm)

343
We've only seen the cover. I'm wondering if there's another cartoon inside the issue where mohammed takes the turban off and reveals that his skull is in fact, a scrotum.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 12, 2015 06:23 PM (TIIx5)

344 Clearly the Charlie magazine is a reference to the officiating in the NFL playoffs.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 12, 2015 06:24 PM (QynX3)

345 the only way they gave him permission to release that story is that they have heard the rumors too. pathetic.

I cant imagine any other POTUS giving the ok to such an undignified story. not even carter. not even clinton

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:24 PM (zOTsN)

346 And totally appropo to nothing on this thread at all, there is a new commercial making the rounds in Denver: Manning: "Nothing beats that new coach smell!"

Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2015 06:24 PM (08Znv)

347 Who was it, Ralph Peters I think, on Fox was saying how to deal with these guys. Basically, he said that we need to name and identify the enemy. Stop pussy footing around with PC. Secondly, we need to use our military to go in and kill as many of them as we can as quickly as we can. Third, don't use the military to nation build. Kill them, break their shit and leave the country with the widows and children weeping over the grave. They act up again, rinse and repeat.
I like this guy.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 06:24 PM (vVSOO)

348 where did you read about reggie being caught en flagrante delicto?"

Yahoo. Apparently Reggie thinks it makes them both look good. He's pimping his memoirs in which that story appears. Yahoo is happy to provide a platform.

Posted by: Lauren at January 12, 2015 06:22 PM (lZpRv)



Anyone care to calculate the over/under on this actually having happened?

Posted by: naturalfake at January 12, 2015 06:24 PM (0cMkb)

349 Whoa seventh dimension of an asshole whew good times..

Posted by: Mark Foley at January 12, 2015 06:24 PM (XYKz+)

350 Nationwide has left my side.

Posted by: Peyton's Ginormous Head at January 12, 2015 06:25 PM (Dwehj)

351 I cant imagine any other POTUS giving the ok to such an undignified story. not even carter. not even clinton

***

Eh, you're half right.

Posted by: cool arrow at January 12, 2015 06:25 PM (7XKHI)

352
I see a fluffy turban. No balls.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:25 PM (IKE1C)

353 Who was it, Ralph Peters I think, on Fox was saying how to deal with these guys. Basically, he said that we need to name and identify the enemy. Stop pussy footing around with PC. Secondly, we need to use our military to go in and kill as many of them as we can as quickly as we can. Third, don't use the military to nation build. Kill them, break their shit and leave the country with the widows and children weeping over the grave. They act up again, rinse and repeat.
I like this guy.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 06:24 PM (vVSOO)

Which is what we should have done in Afghanistan

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:26 PM (Zmw74)

354 having the story written about you is one thing

writing the story yourself, which would have to get the ok from the white house, is another

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:26 PM (zOTsN)

355 Will the real Charlie please stand up...please stand up...please stand up.

Posted by: Slim Shady at January 12, 2015 06:26 PM (AQysw)

356 346 -

Hmm hm hm hm hm hm hmmmm...

Just can't win a playoff game...

Posted by: Paiton Maning at January 12, 2015 06:26 PM (Dj0WE)

357 @317 You see testicles?

If there's a problem here, it's that you don't see testicles.

Posted by: musical mountaineer at January 12, 2015 06:26 PM (l/LyS)

358 @341 Was the woman Lena Dunham by any chance?
------------------------

That reminds me...

MSNBC's lead-in on the front page to the "Golden Globe After Parties" article had what appeared to be Lena Dunham and Taylor Swift hugging each other.

Posted by: junior at January 12, 2015 06:27 PM (UWFpX)

359 liberty includes the freedom to be an asshole and not be killed for it
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 05:58 PM (zOTsN)


you got a newsletter?

Posted by: Name* at January 12, 2015 06:27 PM (W6iIX)

360

If you see testicles, then what's the turban's tail in the back supposed to represent?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:28 PM (IKE1C)

361 Speaking of balls, there's a story over at the Daily Mail about a guy who raised a lion from a cub. He's hugging him and snuggling him, and the lion actually seems fine with it. Anyway, the balls come in because there's a picture of the guy walking with the lion holding his tail. The balls are on full display. It's hello, lion balls.

Posted by: Lauren at January 12, 2015 06:28 PM (lZpRv)

362 Better ingredients, better pizza... eh, what's the third thing?

Posted by: Pappy Jon and Jo Idaho at January 12, 2015 06:28 PM (Dj0WE)

363 writing the story yourself, which would have to get the ok from the white house, is another

***

But you see, if Reg is gay for the pussy, he can't be Urkel's butt buddy and therefore President Boyfriend is totes hetero, I guess?

Posted by: cool arrow at January 12, 2015 06:28 PM (7XKHI)

364 352
I see a fluffy turban. No balls.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:25 PM (IKE1C)










No dogs or elephants in the clouds either?
Imagination it is whats for dinner.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 12, 2015 06:29 PM (WNERA)

365 Hey Jo, you think Paiton has more time to spend with us after the first round of the playoffs?

It sure seems that way, Pappy.

Posted by: Pappy Jon and Jo Idaho at January 12, 2015 06:30 PM (Dj0WE)

366
It's hello, lion balls.


Then it was, like, BOOM, lion balls everywhere!

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:30 PM (IKE1C)

367 ha!

Lion balls?


Posted by: Name: * at January 12, 2015 06:30 PM (W6iIX)

368 Natural fake-
Sorry but iPad puts space in between name.
There is no downside to Ryan not running. If Jeb & Mitt could take the hint, that would be welcome.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:31 PM (sj3Ax)

369 Worlds Largest Islamic Group Calls For Outlawing Criticism Of Islam In Wake Of Charlie Hebdo Terror Attack

Weasel Zippers


Yeah let me think about that for a second....ah no go fuck yourself.
Hey I see that March really accomplished alot?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:31 PM (Zmw74)

370 >>If you see testicles, then what's the turban's tail in the back supposed to represent?

man taint

Posted by: JackStraw at January 12, 2015 06:31 PM (g1DWB)

371 318 Matty Y says the ticket should be Romney/Ryan

yippee
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:17 PM (zOTsN)



Fap fap fap fap fap

Posted by: A bunch of idiots here too at January 12, 2015 06:31 PM (z/Ubi)

372 so on Girls Brian Williams daughter has her butt, um, buffett in the early scenes

Mr Williams even spoke of the scene

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:31 PM (zOTsN)

373 a penis

Posted by: kj at January 12, 2015 06:32 PM (lKyWE)

374

TIME Magazine must be pissed that this didn't happen a month ago so they jump on the bandwagon and choose CH to be m o t y.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:32 PM (IKE1C)

375 WW2 Tweets from 1943 @RealTimeWWII · 14m 14 minutes ago

Operation Spark: Huge Soviet force, incl. 2nd Shock Army, advances round southern shore of Lake Ladoga, hitting Germans encircling Leningrad

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 12, 2015 06:32 PM (rwI+c)

376 the tail is toilet paper stuck to the man taint

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:32 PM (zOTsN)

377 360 If you see testicles, then what's the turban's tail in the back supposed to represent?

A dick cozy?

Posted by: wheatie at January 12, 2015 06:33 PM (AQysw)

378

If you said ass cheeks I woulda said yeah maybe, but not testicles.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:34 PM (IKE1C)

379 Probably some slightly damaging story about Obama and Reggie is about to come out in NE or something and they're trying to forestall by saying how straight Reggie is

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 06:34 PM (DXzRD)

380 I think its just pointing out the absurd bandwagoning going on.

One probably has to expect a lampooning organization to continue to lampoon. Don't skip a beat, as it were.

Posted by: Former Mass Resident at January 12, 2015 06:34 PM (X9xhg)

381 M-U-M and then the other letter.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.
But I'll not be the one that says Betelgeuse the third time.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 12, 2015 06:35 PM (XmOA9)

382 378 If you said ass cheeks I woulda said yeah maybe, but not testicles.

A butthead?
Yeah, that works too.

Posted by: wheatie at January 12, 2015 06:35 PM (AQysw)

383 369 Worlds Largest Islamic Group Calls For Outlawing Criticism Of Islam In Wake Of Charlie Hebdo Terror Attack
Weasel Zippers
Yeah let me think about that for a second....ah no go fuck yourself.
Hey I see that March really accomplished alot?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:31 PM (Zmw74)
Well, according to "Charlie", it seems it is already been outlawed. Oh wait, you mean they want "us" to roll over? Kinda pushing the dhimmi thing a little fast, aren't they? Feeling pretty cocky, looks like. Thanks, Obama.

Posted by: Kraken at January 12, 2015 06:35 PM (s+qrv)

384 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 06:34 PM (DXzRD)

REGGIE IS STRAIGHT?

Posted by: The Rev. Al Sharpton at January 12, 2015 06:35 PM (Zu3d9)

385
So Peyton played the last month and a half with a torn right quadriceps. I imagine there are some gamblers a little pissed that info was not forthcoming.

Posted by: Explainer at January 12, 2015 06:36 PM (Qs8ZN)

386 ...the left, who also doesn't understand the house style of Charlie Hebdo humor, but which wants to portray itself as experts on all things,

This, in many ways, is the story of Obama.


Posted by: OregonMuse at January 12, 2015 06:37 PM (I8YZX)

387 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:31 PM (Zmw74)

Their next offer will be that we can criticize Christians, but they get to kill the Jews.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 12, 2015 06:37 PM (Zu3d9)

388 387 CBD

Everybody hates the Jews. :-)

Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at January 12, 2015 06:38 PM (1brdf)

389 I've seen several people the last few days opine that Islam is not a forgiving religion. This is not true--one of the refrains of the Koran *spit* is "Allah is forgiving and merciful". However, it seems it only applies to Muslims.

Basically, God would give his Profit a commandment for his sheeple. The sheeple, being murderous thugs, would be incapable of following. So...no biggie. Try harder. And kill the unbeliever.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 12, 2015 06:38 PM (VAsIq)

390 Manning's been throwing ducks for a month.
Now we can hear why.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 12, 2015 06:39 PM (XmOA9)

391 nothing will change and the left will immediately go straight back to looking for right wing extremists completely ignoring Islamic facism

because if the media reported on Islamic facism they would have to admit their own previous perfidy

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:39 PM (zOTsN)

392 361 Speaking of balls, there's a story over at the Daily Mail about a guy who raised a lion from a cub. He's hugging him and snuggling him, and the lion actually seems fine with it. Anyway, the balls come in because there's a picture of the guy walking with the lion holding his tail. The balls are on full display. It's hello, lion balls

In many ways, this is the story of all those people who were eaten by their pets.

Posted by: Splunge at January 12, 2015 06:39 PM (qyomX)

393 How about a bacon sammich?

Posted by: Charlie Hobo at January 12, 2015 06:40 PM (Dwehj)

394 Nevergiveup,
What is an Aliyah to Israel? Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:41 PM (sj3Ax)

395 Erdrogan of Turkey rails again Bibi showing up at the march, claiming that he was responsible for genocide in Gaza. This from a country that committed genocide against one and a half million Armenians. And to this day denies any responsibility for that act.
*spit*

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 06:41 PM (vVSOO)

396
29 After being equally perplexed, I decided the intent had to be that Islamists were, somehow, so shamed by the outpouring of condemnation of Islam that they were forced to distance themselves from the murderers.

This thought is akin to a sermon given by our assistant rector at the Episcopal church that we formerly attended, but left ten years ago. Her simpleminded take was that Muslims around the world would, upon reflection, see the horror of the 9-11 attacks and vow, "Never again!"

Between that and 3/4 of my fellow vestry members getting a pearl-clutching attack of the vapors when I had the audacity to bring up St. Augustine's views on just wars for my topic during our opening lesson, it made saying "And I am outta here!" real easy when that time came.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at January 12, 2015 06:41 PM (bWFHa)

397 361 The balls are on full display. It's hello, lion balls.

Yesss, thisss is my seduction technique. Got a beejer out of it and everything. Bonus: Didn't even murder her, even though the Dragon told me to.

Posted by: Francis Dolarhyde at January 12, 2015 06:41 PM (qyomX)

398 383 369 Worlds Largest Islamic Group Calls For Outlawing Criticism Of Islam In Wake Of Charlie Hebdo Terror Attack

well i can see they are doing their utmost to empathize with the murdered.

Posted by: willow at January 12, 2015 06:41 PM (nqBYe)

399 turkey is the nurse maid of ISIS and is currently using them to get rid of the kurds for them

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:42 PM (zOTsN)

400 Peyton has to come back, he's too close to so many of those Brent Fahvrey records.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 12, 2015 06:42 PM (XmOA9)

401
MacLean Stevenson and Ace's all-time favorite actress Kim Richards were in a sitcom Hello, Lion Balls!.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:42 PM (IKE1C)

402 Given that one surviving Hebdo cartoonist was quoted as saying "Screw you," to all the new free speech supporters who only came out of the woodwork after this atrocity, I'm going to say the cartoon is intended to lampoon the hypocrisy of having the very officials who persecute journalists and other gadflies leading a supposed "free speech" march.

Which march was intended, I think, to divert the righteous rage of targeted westerners into safe and ineffectual channels.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at January 12, 2015 06:42 PM (eDZbN)

403 385
So Peyton played the last month and a half with a torn right quadriceps. I imagine there are some gamblers a little pissed that info was not forthcoming.
Posted by: Explainer at January 12, 2015 06:36 PM (Qs8ZN)

________

There's gambling on NFL games?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 12, 2015 06:42 PM (0LHZx)

404 I've seen several people the last few days opine that Islam is not a forgiving religion. This is not true--one of the refrains of the Koran *spit* is "Allah is forgiving and merciful". However, it seems it only applies to Muslims.

Best illustrated when Muslims kill each other.

Posted by: CM at January 12, 2015 06:43 PM (0NdlF)

405 What is an Aliyah to Israel? Thank you.
Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:41 PM (sj3Ax)


Aliyah literally means "To go up" and it refers to going up to the holy city of Jerusalem. And in modern times it means moving to Israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:44 PM (Zmw74)

406 Everybody hates the Jews. :-)
----
Tom Lehrer - National Brotherhood Week:

http://tinyurl.com/dxo5jk6

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 12, 2015 06:44 PM (KH1sk)

407 347 Who was it, Ralph Peters I think...
Posted by: Old Blue

I've known Ralph for a long time...back when he was one of my students in the Army. He is direct and no nonsense. Abrupt even. But he is also one of the smartest people I've ever met. And in this he is correct. Its time to go back to war fighting the way it needs to be done. Brutal, ugly and decisive. There is no place for the silver medal on this, or any, battlefield.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2015 06:44 PM (08Znv)

408 Lol. Bret Baier pointing out that while the JEF was giving a speech about cyber security, CENTCOM was getting hacked.

Barack Hussein Obama: reverse Midas touch

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2015 06:44 PM (FsuaD)

409 I think I understand the cover.

I think it's the nicest, least offensive cartoon of Muhammad possible -- and they did it precisely to show that the World's Media would refuse to print even the nicest, least offensive cartoon of Muhammad possible.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 12, 2015 06:44 PM (ZPrif)

410 BTW, does anybody here remember Mr. Pol from around 2002-04 over at the fat bicyclist's blog? He was a French Jew who lived in Paris and routinely gave reports on the worsening conditions there. He eventually immigrated to Israel. I remembered him last week and wondered how he is doing. He was a good commenter.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 06:44 PM (+XMAD)

411 A cooler cartoon would have been one of those Calvin & Hobbs pissing on Mecca thingies.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 12, 2015 06:45 PM (0LHZx)

412 MacLean Stevenson and Ace's all-time favorite actress Kim Richards were in a sitcom Hello, Lion Balls!.

I was cast as the lion's balls.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at January 12, 2015 06:45 PM (Dwehj)

413 Did anyone else hear this? This morning local radio station play a comment from the hacker group anonymous. The hackers said they would take down all the jihadi web sites and that the group knew where the jihadi were and that anonymous group would find them and kill them in retribution for the attacks in France. Haven't heard it again and haven't seen it reported anywhere else

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2015 06:45 PM (f9OUX)

414
never been to vegas?

Posted by: kj at January 12, 2015 06:45 PM (lKyWE)

415 During the 9-11 attacks Tom Brokaw hinted that Bush policies were lurking out there, making this stuff happen.

The MSM can no more be reformed than Islam can.

Basically we have one enemy of ours protecting another enemy of ours.

Posted by: eman at January 12, 2015 06:46 PM (24vvc)

416 I think some cartoonists should make a cartoon of various Jewish prophets sitting around a table with Mohammed and pointing at him and laughing and saying, "Don't get your boxers in a bunch, Mo."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 06:47 PM (DXzRD)

417 414
never been to vegas?
Posted by: kj at January 12, 2015 06:45 PM (lKyWE)


but I been to Oklahoma.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at January 12, 2015 06:47 PM (vgIRn)

418 The MSM can no more be reformed than Islam can.


+100.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at January 12, 2015 06:47 PM (Dwehj)

419 I think the cartoon is spoofing all the "moderate Muslims" who went on TV to say how awful the killings were, only to then go back to their job as PR flunkies for the likes of CAIR.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 12, 2015 06:47 PM (0LHZx)

420 Sharpton has already said he is on the look out for islamaphobia and that sort of thing is the same sort of thinking that killed mike brown

nothing has changed the alliances are in tact

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 12, 2015 06:48 PM (zOTsN)

421 Anonymous declared war on Islamic extremists Friday and promised to take revenge for the attack on French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.
In a video posted on YouTube, the group of hackers said they would track down websites and social media networks linked to terrorists, and take them down.
"We, Anonymous around the world, have decided to declare war on you the terrorists," it

jan 9th, 2014
cnn london

Posted by: willow at January 12, 2015 06:48 PM (nqBYe)

422 They tell me I was born there.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 12, 2015 06:48 PM (QynX3)

423 WW2 Tweets from 1943 ‏@RealTimeWWII 2m2 minutes ago

From Finland to the Caucasus, Red Army leading winter offensive, smashing at Wehrmacht strongpoints in Stalingrad, Leningrad, & near Moscow.

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 12, 2015 06:49 PM (rwI+c)

424 These are the people who thought Jerry Lewis was funny, of course we can't understand.

Posted by: Llittle Boomer at January 12, 2015 06:49 PM (ZuVs9)

425 weird. What happened?

TheBlazeNOW retweeted
Charlie Bragale @charlienbc 10m
-BREAKING- @wmata says one person died this afternoon at the incident at L'Enfant Plaza Metro, female died, over 80 trans to hospitals

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 12, 2015 06:49 PM (ZPrif)

426 Did anyone else hear this? This morning local radio station play a comment


Sure it wasn't one of those "Dick and Nob in the morning" shows?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 12, 2015 06:49 PM (XmOA9)

427 Here's how I see it.

First Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech."

The Left:
"Well if we can't make a law abridging freedom of speech that we don't like, it's a good thing the Mohamedans are stepping in with the murderer's veto. We're cool with that."

This argument seems to work for them.

Sadly, they also seem to think the Mohamedans will agree with them about what speech is objectionable.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 12, 2015 06:50 PM (NeFrd)

428 I used to be Ezra but I've begun the process of changing to my new self, and embracing the Feminine! Isn't that exciting?

Voxsplaining this from my new perspective I think the cover is an attempt to forgive the excess testosterone actions of these French boys and welcome them back into the community of humankind. That's not really Mohammed on the cover, it's Mohammed's mother-- she had a sizeable mustache -- and she is reprimanding her wayward male acolytes.

Posted by: Chelsea Klein at January 12, 2015 06:51 PM (6um35)

429 There has been a leftist split on this, which is interesting to watch - the ones who are still in full denial vs. the smaller group of Maher-type leftists. Also the split between those making excuses for Obama's absence from the march and those who have criticized him for it.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 06:51 PM (+XMAD)

430 Media Research Center sent me email that Rosie from The Viee criticized The JEF for not going to france.
iPad capitalizes Muslim & not France?

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:51 PM (sj3Ax)

431
chickenshit anonymous computer hackers vs 7th Century barbarians

yeah, that'll happen

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:51 PM (IKE1C)

432 I don't know what the cover means. I do know what I would like it to mean: Mohammed saying "didn't intend for that to happen; sorry bro."

Posted by: Splunge at January 12, 2015 06:52 PM (qyomX)

433 I meant The View.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 06:53 PM (sj3Ax)

434 Why do his eyes and nose look like a cock and balls?

Posted by: Superflex at January 12, 2015 06:53 PM (JQ4M8)

435 @421- Willow- did you hear anonymous say anthing about them taking the jihad's out,because the news reprot this morning say they were going to not only take down the websites but also take out the terrorists.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2015 06:53 PM (f9OUX)

436 So would it be appropriate to say, "I want to aliyah Kate Upton"? cause...I would.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 12, 2015 06:53 PM (QynX3)

437 Je suis Charles Martel.

Posted by: Charles Martel at January 12, 2015 06:54 PM (zxQ4h)

438 Have you ever smelled the seventh dimension of an ass hole? It ain t pretty.

Posted by: Mike Rowe at January 12, 2015 06:54 PM (XYKz+)

439 I would say Anonymous is falling down on the job if the ISIS hackers can take down Centcom's twitter and youtube feeds this morning.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 06:54 PM (vVSOO)

440

I seem to be having a flashback to high school.

I think I might be one of Charlie's new found friends.

1. I don't know if the editors of Charlie "had the right" to publish what they published, nor do I particularly care, but I wasn't going to, and still will not, stop them.

Voltaire was an asshole and a wuss; I see no need to follow Voltaire's pontifications or to defend Charlie. If faces with an immediate threat, I'll respond, or if called upon as a juror, I'll follow the law and be fair. See #2 ...


2. Rightly or wrongly, retribution was coming, and the editors of Charlie "should have known".

Why should I take the beating that the editors of Charlie begged for? Oh, wait ... Voltaire said. Voltaire was an asshole. Oh, wait ... the editors were murdered.

Again, "they should have known", and while there is law and stuff, at some point the editors should have realized that "The Law" had no affirmative protection mechanism, and anyway, the 'tards they poked did not and do not care.

Murder is wrong, and Charlie's scribblings do not rise, even remotely , to earning death (in Western culture, my culture) ... and this has been discussed sufficiently ... but the 'tards Charlie poked did not, and do not, see their actions as murder, and again, the editors of Charlie "should have known".


3. Sharkman at 263 sums things up nicely; "They aren't about humor. They are about setting themselves up as the cool kids who can get away with ..." any kind of shit they want, and forever, without retribution ... only they were wrong; the 'tards they poked responded with retributive wrath formidabe. The editors of Charlie should have known.


Unfortunately, unlike high school, I'm forced to choose sides; the side of the ungrateful, assholic, professional snots, who should have known that, like slapping a porcupine or taunting an animal at the zoo ... , or side of the animals.

So, I choose the side of Charlie.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 12, 2015 06:55 PM (FlRtG)

441 Didn't intend for what to happen? Mohammed was a murderous warlord who was PO'ed that the Jews and the Christians didn't accept his revelations.
Unless he had a conversion experience before he was murdered by a family member he'd probably have an incredibly thick skin about cartoons about him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 06:56 PM (DXzRD)

442 I see it as Mohammed forgiving the killers for their sins because Mohammed in the cartoon actually represents the leftist caricature of "true Islam" that leftists believe is some distinct and separate entity from the "radical Islam" that inspires people to go around killing people.

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebees at January 12, 2015 06:57 PM (Yq8Z8)

443 I guess this means the muzzies didn't kill or seriously injure all the staff of the nasty French rag.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 12, 2015 06:57 PM (z27Ny)

444 So would it be appropriate to say, "I want to aliyah Kate Upton"? cause...I would.
Posted by: goatexchange at January 12, 2015 06:53 PM (QynX3)

Well that depends on what you mean. There is an opposite term "yerida" which means to "go down" or leave Israel and return to the Diaspora ( those Jews who live outside of Israel). Now if you want to go down on Kate Upton, "yerida" would be more appropriate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 06:57 PM (Zmw74)

445 Ben Had I don't know, there is said to be a video online somewhere of the whole deal.

Posted by: willow at January 12, 2015 06:57 PM (nqBYe)

446 Kinda ironic that CENTCOM gets hacks the day El President is giving a speech on cyber security.
The NSA is getting sloppy.

Posted by: Superflex at January 12, 2015 06:58 PM (JQ4M8)

447 Meant have an incredibly THIN skin.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 06:58 PM (DXzRD)

448
...and I'm ungrateful hateful French cartoonist Rob Lowe...

Posted by: french cartoonist Rob Lowe at January 12, 2015 06:58 PM (IKE1C)

449 The NSA is getting sloppy.
------
Yeah, but they know who you've called, texted and what websites YOU have visited today. Oh yeah, and all your e-mail too.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 07:00 PM (vVSOO)

450 Finally someone notices that charlie hebdo is not very funny or insightful, and kind of offensive.

Of course I stand with them against the terrorists, but it seems so odd to see so many people claiming solidarity with them. They remind me mostly of Hustler, but more hard left, and more retouching.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at January 12, 2015 07:00 PM (LWu6U)

451 In all honesty, I have never, not even once in my life thought to myself, "Self, this mustard is just not fucking crunchy enough."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 07:00 PM (c3xwz)

452 Is it saying that the deaths were a blood sacrifice and that now Mo forgives them?

Or, with the frowny face on Mo (that's Mo, right?) is it saying that even Mo is ashamed by the actions of the terrorists? We all know Mo was a terrorist so he wouldn't be...

Hmm...

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2015 07:01 PM (rldyO)

453 We forgive the killers, for they were not Muslim.

And Muhammad is totes on OUR side, see? HE'S a Muslim.

Posted by: OhGodHireMePlease at January 12, 2015 07:01 PM (x01Vz)

454 They did print Mohammed on their cover? Late to the game.

Posted by: ? at January 12, 2015 07:02 PM (dMB3r)

455 From WaPo:
"Six people were injured, one critically, when smoke filled a Metro tunnel Monday afternoon.

Tim Wilson, a spokesman for D.C. Fire and EMS, said one person has been transported to an area hospital with a critical injury but he did not know the cause or severity of the injury. Another five people were transported with minor injuries.

A Metrobus at 7th and D streets SW held people from the tunnel and the train station. About 20 appeared to be on board, some being treated by firefighters with oxygen."

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:02 PM (+XMAD)

456 OT: Broncos, John Fox part ways.

Posted by: Pepe Le Horny at January 12, 2015 07:03 PM (UFV5W)

457 Inscrutable.
Much like most of the French.

Posted by: navybrat at January 12, 2015 07:03 PM (JgC5a)

458 @426- This is the largest radio station in Texas and very conservative.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2015 07:03 PM (49mCD)

459 A report earlier today that the Mini Cooper belonging to the widow of the now aerated terrorist at the market was seen being driven around by another member of the terror cell. They believe that six are still active and roaming around Paris. Also a report that the vehicle was packed with explosives. I'm not sure I believe the packed with explosives part because yesterday would have been the day to use it.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 07:03 PM (vVSOO)

460 Kozliks is going to be fucked when I develop crystallized mustard...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 07:03 PM (c3xwz)

461 Off, sock!! Damn...

Posted by: joefl65 at January 12, 2015 07:03 PM (UFV5W)

462 chickenshit anonymous computer hackers vs 7th Century barbarians

IIRC, a lot of Anonymous members that participated in the attacks on Israel were in fact Palestinian. Of course, the way we know this is because the IDF knew who they were, I believe, so the Palestinian contingent may have lessened considerably afterwards.

Yeah, I just laughed when they started talking about killing jihadis - taking down websites is one thing (and while a nuisance they haven't actually accomplished much by doing so that I can remember), picking up a gun and heading to Syria or the Islamic-controlled areas of Europe is a bit different.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 12, 2015 07:05 PM (emumR)

463
weird. What happened?



TheBlazeNOW retweeted

Charlie Bragale @charlienbc 10m

-BREAKING- @wmata says one person died this afternoon at the
incident at L'Enfant Plaza Metro, female died, over 80 trans to
hospitals

it's up at Drudge now


http://tinyurl.com/ml5gc7j

Posted by: dartist at January 12, 2015 07:05 PM (ahBY0)

464 A report earlier today that the Mini Cooper belonging to the widow of the now aerated terrorist at the market was seen being driven around by another member of the terror cell. They believe that six are still active and roaming around Paris. Also a report that the vehicle was packed with explosives. I'm not sure I believe the packed with explosives part because yesterday would have been the day to use it.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 07:03 PM (vVSOO)


So we're looking for a clown car with six people in it? Packed with explosives? I think you missed heard that....6 people with gas in a mini cooper could be explosive

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 07:05 PM (Zmw74)

465 450 Finally someone notices that charlie hebdo is not very funny or insightful, and kind of offensive.

Of course I stand with them against the terrorists, but it seems so odd to see so many people claiming solidarity with them. They remind me mostly of Hustler, but more hard left, and more retouching.


I'm not aligned with their offensiveness, but I'm strongly aligned with their right to their offensiveness.

Posted by: Splunge at January 12, 2015 07:05 PM (qyomX)

466 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 06:56 PM (DXzRD)

I'm not sure about that, Fenelon. Murderous dictator types are usually very thin-skinned when it comes to being criticized.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:06 PM (+XMAD)

467 Yes, it was a typo, Donna. I changed it to Thin skinned. in a later post.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 12, 2015 07:08 PM (DXzRD)

468 Barely 24 hours after Ahmet Davutoglu, Turkeys prime minister, joined millions marching in Paris to pay tribute to the 17 people killed by Islamist extremists, the countrys president struck a much more confrontational tone.
The duplicity of the west is obvious, Recep Tayyip Erdogan said at a press conference on Monday evening. As Muslims we have never sided with terror or massacres racism, hate speech, Islamophobia are behind these massacres.



The culprits are clear French citizens undertook this massacre and Muslims were blamed for it, he added

YEAH, Yup putting Turkey in NATO was a great idea?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 07:08 PM (Zmw74)

469 Posted by: Pepe Le Horny at January 12, 2015 07:03 PM (UFV5W)

It ain't John Fox's fault Peyton's lost the zip.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:08 PM (wVWRM)

470 They are saying that they believe the fiction that the real islam condemns what happens, and that their prophet would be against spreading his religion by force (!!!!!)

That is, that they cling to their lie - that true islam is peaceful - so strongly that they even now they can not see what is written on every fucking page of that damned book, and every fucking page or history for centuries.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at January 12, 2015 07:09 PM (LWu6U)

471 @468 YEAH, Yup putting Turkey in NATO was a great idea?
------------------------

Made a lot more sense back then. Turkey was secular, and that was enforced by the military. And Islam wasn't the problem that it is now. What *was* a problem was the Soviet Union. And the Russians would *really* like to get their hands on both sides of the Bosporous to remove foreign control over their access to the Black Sea. Putting Turkey under treaty protection was a no brainer at the time.

Posted by: junior at January 12, 2015 07:11 PM (UWFpX)

472 nevergiveup what can one expect from a v jarret pick?

man i would love to be a fly on the wall re those phone calls re obama, erdogan, s, rice, samantha powers etc.

Posted by: willow at January 12, 2015 07:11 PM (nqBYe)

473 I thought station was in France but it's in DC.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:11 PM (sj3Ax)

474 I know the history

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 07:12 PM (Zmw74)

475 >> I'm not aligned with their offensiveness, but I'm strongly aligned with their right to their offensiveness.

Yes of course. I think everyone who marched agrees to the second part. But still, it's odd to see so much "i am charlie"

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at January 12, 2015 07:12 PM (LWu6U)

476 I thought station was in France but it's in DC.
Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:11 PM (sj3Ax)


Never been on the DC Metro I guess ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 07:12 PM (Zmw74)

477 463: they don't know yet. Scary, I was just on it. It affected the Yellow/Green lines. L'Enfante Plaza is a major intersection on the metro. 4 lines come through there.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at January 12, 2015 07:13 PM (20X6f)

478 I see a fluffy turban. No balls.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 12, 2015 06:25 PM (IKE1C)


Sooth, you sweet innocent....turbans do not have two sections.

Take it in context with the entire face, especially the nose...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 07:13 PM (5knmJ)

479 yeah, the whole "I am Charlie" schtick makes me a little nauseous. they aren't Charlie, they aren't brave enough to be Charlie, and what's more, if Charlie et al were alive today, these same people would be holding Charlie in contempt for his 'racist' humor

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebees at January 12, 2015 07:14 PM (Yq8Z8)

480 Nevergiveup,
Never.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:14 PM (sj3Ax)

481 I read somewhere last week that the frogs have been very fond of political cartoonists since the days of Daumier.

Google Daumier's "The Legislative Belly" which is one of the greatest caricatures of politicians of all times.

Charlie Hebdo doesn't even come close and in fact shows how much French culture has deteriorated since Daumier's day.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:14 PM (+XMAD)

482 476 I thought station was in France but it's in DC.
Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:11 PM (sj3Ax)

I once worked at L'Enfant Plaza. I took that train every day.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:15 PM (+XMAD)

483 479 yeah, the whole "I am Charlie" schtick makes me a little nauseous. they aren't Charlie, they aren't brave enough to be Charlie, and what's more, if Charlie et al were alive today, these same people would be holding Charlie in contempt for his 'racist' humor

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebees at January 12, 2015 07:14 PM (Yq8Z


Je suis Charlie is like Boston Strong. A feel good platitude used in place of taking actual action against those who want you dead.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 12, 2015 07:15 PM (oFCZn)

484 Anti Islam demonstrations in Dresden, Germany had a record 25,000 in attendance. Counter demonstrations by those demanding tolerance had 100,000 total in attendance combined in several cities in Germany. Merkel stands with the Islamists saying that she is the chancellor of all Germans. Other countries in Europe are also seeing anti Islamist demonstrations.
It appears that the Europeans are finally starting to wake up but the SJW are going to make sure that their voices are drowned out. But others are seeing unfettered immigration by Islamics to their country, burdening the social welfare state by sucking up benefits and not contributing. People are starting to get pissed.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 07:16 PM (vVSOO)

485 [361 Speaking of balls, there's a story over at the Daily Mail about a guy who raised a lion from a cub. He's hugging him and snuggling him, and the lion actually seems fine with it.

Posted by: Lauren at January 12, 2015 06:28 PM (lZpRv)/i]


It's all fun and games until the lion gets pissed off one day.

Posted by: rickl at January 12, 2015 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

Posted by: rickl at January 12, 2015 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

Posted by: rickl at January 12, 2015 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

488 Hmm, a double post closing a tag. You don't see that every day.

Posted by: rickl at January 12, 2015 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

489 Thanks you, Donna &&&& V.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:18 PM (sj3Ax)

490 This Charlie Weekly Magazine massacre is a compare and contrast of ideologies to say the least. The left could (but won't) use this as a teaching moment to realize the difference between putting the highest deity of Christianity in a mason jar of piss and displaying it at an art gallery (funded with taxpayer money)and printing satirical comics depicting Mohammed. The Prince of Peace VS Mohammed.
OT but relevant. The Pastor from Florida that likes
to burn Korans Terry whats his name is on the hit list published by Al Qaeda.

Posted by: Regular GUy at January 12, 2015 07:18 PM (XYKz+)

491 Now that the the rallies are over and crocodile tears are evaporated, everyone can return home and await the next attack. Everyone except John Kerry that is. He is still to arrive for his rally of 1 and display of horse tears.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 12, 2015 07:18 PM (z27Ny)

492 another peeve i have is this "comedy should not take courage" shit.

If they think it does not take courage to tell a joke, they are doing it wrong.

Think about it -- from the class clown, to the standup comic, it takes a lot of balls to try to make people laugh.

Think of the balls it took for ace to admit he blows his trainer.

And political humor all the way back to the court jesters takes a lot of courage.

Sure, it takes no courage for that affirmation humor that draws those peals of claphter. but then, who said that was comedy?

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at January 12, 2015 07:20 PM (LWu6U)

493 Everyone except John Kerry that is. He is still to arrive for his rally of 1 and display of horse tears.
Posted by: RioBravo at January 12, 2015 07:18 PM (z27Ny)

And to show off his high school french

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 07:20 PM (Zmw74)

494 Yeah, old John F'n Kerry is still spouting that gorebull enwarmening is still the greatest threat to mankind. Said that in India this weekend. He'd still be spouting that garbage when they take his head off.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 07:21 PM (vVSOO)

495 The important thing for the French now is to die in the least racist way possible.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 12, 2015 07:21 PM (oFCZn)

496 Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 07:16 PM (vVSOO)

In all fairness, Merkel has a hella delicate line to walk, there.

Now if I were her, I'd say no whacked out lunatics will take over the country again on MY watch, but I can appreciate that she has to tread more carefully than the rest.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 07:21 PM (5knmJ)

497 And to show off his high school french

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2015 07:20 PM (Zmw74)

oh lord that was awful at his press conference.

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebees at January 12, 2015 07:21 PM (Yq8Z8)

498 Rick, I see what you did there.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....in the bleak midwinter at January 12, 2015 07:21 PM (RFeQD)

499 He'd still be spouting that garbage when they take his head off.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 07:21 PM (vVSOO)

Taking Kerry's head off would alleviate the global warming problem, since he'd no longer be able to emit a lot of foul hot gas from his piehole.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:23 PM (+XMAD)

500 "All is forgiven" is an admission you were wrong to punish someone for some perceived "crime" that then turned out not to be verifiable: the milk curdled because it was left out; you assume it was your kids who did it so you send them to bed without supper. It turns out it was the cleaning lady who left the milk out, so you tell your children they can come out now and have something to eat, accompanied by "All is forgiven"--for what isn't clear since they hadn't done anything wrong in the first place. It's a way of deflecting your own guilt for having wrongly accused someone. I think that explains the Hebdo cover: the terrorists were wrong to kill the journalists, so now, Mohammed, who inspired the terrorism, contritely holding the famous support sign, says all is forgiven.)

Posted by: Anne Gwathmey at January 12, 2015 07:23 PM (yTQ7b)

501 "Journal Irresponsable"

Shouldn't they all have that on the cover or do Truth in Advertising laws only cover the ads?

Posted by: DaveA at January 12, 2015 07:23 PM (DL2i+)

502 The WH stated security risks as the reason ole golf iron balls didn't make it to the leadership march in France. HUH? That sounds like someone was ascared to go?? HMMM

Posted by: Regular GUy at January 12, 2015 07:24 PM (XYKz+)

503 Fehsplanation:

Moe sould say no such thing

the cover rubs everyone's nose in that fact

Charlie follows Brecht: art is not a reflection but a hammer

the response the cover wants is a skeptical "yeah, right"

plus, having Moe hold it up points out how easy it is to hold up that particular sign

Posted by: Feh at January 12, 2015 07:24 PM (g/zj9)

504 Hey, SMFH!!!!


Hey chemjeff!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 07:24 PM (5knmJ)

505 GloBull warming is the greatest thread to mankind?
Islamic terrorists are the greatest threat, Lurch!!

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:24 PM (sj3Ax)

506 It just occurred to me that two generations of the UK And much of Europe were pretty much emasculated by the Great War and the Second Great War.

Sounds like a good strategy to combat the extremists.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:24 PM (wVWRM)

507 Is this Muhammed or is this just an Arab guy holding an "I am Charlie" sign, tearing up because he feels bad about what happened? You know, because Islam didn't really have anything to do with it (I don't agree, just interpreting)?

One of their surviving cartoonists already said he'd like to vomit on their new supporters. Maybe this is the ultimate stick in the eye.

Posted by: Motorhead at January 12, 2015 07:24 PM (jc4t8)

508 Hey, I almost did post-grad study in Fwance, and would have too if I'd gotten that 5th deferment like Boosh!

Posted by: Jean Fraude Karri at January 12, 2015 07:25 PM (fBxC6)

509 Seventh dimension Seventh dimension I read about that in Dante's Inferno I believe.

Posted by: Regular GUy at January 12, 2015 07:26 PM (XYKz+)

510 From Drudge:

Hackers post names, addresses of U.S. generals...
'AMERICAN SOLDIERS, WE ARE COMING, WATCH YOUR BACK'...
Tracked Back to Maryland?


We found the terrorist,.... and he's.... in the WHITE HOUSE!

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at January 12, 2015 07:27 PM (LWu6U)

511 I read about that in Dante's Inferno I believe.
Posted by: Regular GUy at January 12, 2015 07:26 PM (XYKz+)

How long before they try to ban it? Dante was pretty clear on where Mohammed ended up and it wasn't pretty...

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:28 PM (+XMAD)

512 >>BTW, does anybody here remember Mr. Pol from around
2002-04 over at the fat bicyclist's blog? He was a French Jew who lived
in Paris and routinely gave reports on the worsening conditions there.
He eventually immigrated to Israel. I remembered him last week and
wondered how he is doing. He was a good commenter.

Posted by: Donna V. (brandishing ampersands)


I do, in fact, remember him. I found his posts interesting.

Posted by: Aviator at January 12, 2015 07:28 PM (3rrMW)

513 We found the terrorist,.... and he's.... in the WHITE HOUSE!

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at January 12, 2015 07:27 PM (LWu6U)


Barry at Camp David with Michelle's laptop?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 12, 2015 07:28 PM (oFCZn)

514 "Journal Irresponsable"

Shouldn't they all have that on the cover or do Truth in Advertising laws only cover the ads?

Posted by: DaveA


Eet is arteestic today, mon ami.
* blows Gaulois in your face *

Posted by: l'homme de la Rue at January 12, 2015 07:29 PM (c3xwz)

515 Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:24 PM (wVWRM)

But unlike the French, the Brits actually fought their asses off in WWII

Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 12, 2015 07:29 PM (Zu3d9)

516 Ace must really like that mustard.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 12, 2015 07:29 PM (g1DWB)

517 I couldn't quit him!

https://tinyurl.com/qzykp84

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 12, 2015 07:30 PM (OsWis)

518 Evening, 'rons.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at January 12, 2015 07:31 PM (KuU4f)

519 502: Holder was in Paris and he didn't go either. So yeah, "security" concerns. It is interesting to see Europe discovering what many in this country have found out. The One just isn't into you. I have a friend of mine who is a leftist and he still BELIEVES. Too bad, he really isn't a bad dude, just wrong about Obama. Its aggravating.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at January 12, 2015 07:31 PM (20X6f)

520 Tammy, I can see what you're saying, but.....
By taking the most politically correct path, Merkel will keep kicking the can down the road. Germany already knows that it harbors Islamic terrorists. Mohamed Atta studied in Germany. Palestinian terrorists killed Israelis at the Munich Olympic games. France has no go zones for police for Muslim neighborhoods.
It's become a cancer. And it's all because of political correctness.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 07:32 PM (vVSOO)

521 Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 12, 2015 07:29 PM (Zu3d9)


Agreed. They and we won. For them, a much bigger cost. And they still suffer.

Make the rubble bounce. The satellites know where the bad guys are.

Who are the cowards? Generals that want to keep their pensions? Career bureaucrats at th alphabets? Eliminate the fathers of hate.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:33 PM (wVWRM)

522 And they've decided, along with the Islamists, that Charlie Hebdo kind of deserved it.

****

I suppose the left would be tolerant of murder were it over Charlie Hebdo's grotesque images of Christ as well.

Of Jews?


Sure they would be./

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 12, 2015 07:34 PM (DmNpO)

523 >> plus, having Moe hold it up points out how easy it is to hold up that particular sign

but moe is crying, and in the past they always showed that moe did not approve of the terrorists.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at January 12, 2015 07:34 PM (LWu6U)

524 I know you think you understand what you thought I drew but I'm not sure you realize that what you see is not what I meant to draw.

just sayin'

Posted by: Hobo Mojoist at January 12, 2015 07:34 PM (2ivCz)

525 Howdy, y'all.

What are we all today? Fwench? Arabs? Journalistas?

It's difficult to tell without a program.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, International Double-Naught Cat Speculator at January 12, 2015 07:35 PM (0HooB)

526 As fucked up as it was for Obama not to go, I wonder why a Republican delegation didn't go. It would have been a pretty powerful signal had Boehner and McConnell for instance shown up together.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 12, 2015 07:35 PM (0LHZx)

527 All is forgiven now that I've slain the infidels.

Next?

Posted by: Big Mo at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (2ivCz)

528 Testes Test.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (L6/+u)

529 Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 12, 2015 07:29 PM (Zu3d9)

To be fair, the frogs fought their asses off in WWI. And I think that's what did them in as a nation.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (+XMAD)

530 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 12, 2015 07:35 PM (0LHZx)

Cowards, too.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (wVWRM)

531 Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Scott Walker, Booby Jindal all marching in Paris arm in arm...now that would have been legen-dary

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (0LHZx)

532 528 Testes Test.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (L6/+u)


Titties. Yay!

Posted by: Big Mo at January 12, 2015 07:37 PM (2ivCz)

533 hi Miss Tammy

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebees at January 12, 2015 07:37 PM (Yq8Z8)

534 I wouldn't be too hard o all the "I am Charlie" and marching stuff.

The massive numbers indicate just how many people recognize that there is a problem.

The solution (killing the leaders, killing the financiers, stopping immigration, deportation, seizure of property, destruction of radical mosques, etc)just hasn't sunk in yet.

The Frogs still think this is like their massive student marches and strikes in the 60-70s.

They march and they get their way....well...no.

They literally have several miniature nations under foreign sovereign authority within their borders and just outside of Paris. These sovereign nations reject France, French law, French culture, French authority.

The war is being fought and they are losing territory.

They just haven't wrapped their minds around it yet.

But they know something is wrong and it has to do with muslims.


That's quite a bit farther than our own leftards are willing to go.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 12, 2015 07:37 PM (0cMkb)

535 Jihad is a way of earning "heaven", isn't it? Could it be that Mo is telling the terrorists who died that they are "forgiven" and have earned their way to "heaven" now?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2015 07:38 PM (rldyO)

536 To be fair, the frogs fought their asses off in WWI. And I think that's what did them in as a nation.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (+XMAD)

__________

Well that and insisting Germany be royally fucked at Versailles which in the long run fucked them even more.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 12, 2015 07:38 PM (0LHZx)

537 Umm....muhammed is Charlie...


Uh....

It means....

Fuck it.

Carry on.

Posted by: eleven at January 12, 2015 07:38 PM (MDgS8)

538 Just one or two more pen strokes and that cover could depict a certain men's anatomy on top of old mo's head.

It'd be an accurate portrayal.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, International Double-Naught Cat Speculator at January 12, 2015 07:38 PM (0HooB)

539 I suppose the left would be tolerant of murder were it over Charlie Hebdo's grotesque images of Christ as well.

Muslims object to portrayals of al-Masih too. They do mock the crucifix, because they think it was Judas or Simon of Cyrene up there; but they never mock al-Masih.

They protested "Last Temptation of Christ" arm in arm with Bill Donohue.
https://books.google.com/books?id=9jK9LnwmaAgC&pg=PA57

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 12, 2015 07:39 PM (AVEe1)

540 To be fair, the frogs fought their asses off in WWI. And I think that's what did them in as a nation.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (+XMAD)


Was explaining this to my father the other day. I think France lost 4 million in WWI. Those are people who are not easily replaced. They never returned home to have children (or more if they'd already had one).


There are shades of spirit. Their security services will fuck your shit all up, and they'll do it in pieces.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 12, 2015 07:39 PM (oFCZn)

541 Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (+XMAD)

Thanks Donna. Made my point.

Let the muzzies run to the bayonets.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:39 PM (wVWRM)

542 Imagine the hysterics had I gone

Posted by: Sarah Palin at January 12, 2015 07:40 PM (fBxC6)

543 heya eleven.

all I see in that CH cartoon is dick and balls.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 12, 2015 07:40 PM (OsWis)

544 Let's call those 'No-Go Zones' what they are...they're Colonies.

It's not immigration if you are ceding them territory. It's Colonization.

Posted by: wheatie at January 12, 2015 07:40 PM (AQysw)

545 Charlie Hebdo seems to run a lot of cartoons of Mohammed, the Pope, and a hook-nosed Jew. I looked at the pictures of their staff, and I didn't see anyone on their staff that looked like Mohammed, the Pope, or a hook-nosed Jew. So, like, I was wondering if the magazine ever skewers people that look like THEY do? You know, skinny, incredibly hip sorta-nihilist euro-dweebs?


Posted by: bofh at January 12, 2015 07:40 PM (ggyaL)

546 Paris is news because they killed people like us. Nigeria suffered through a 9/11 equivalent over the weekend and it is hard to find anyone saying anything about it. I am disturbed by this.

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 12, 2015 07:41 PM (fLKzW)

547 O-H...I-O

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at January 12, 2015 07:41 PM (Dwehj)

548 There are shades of spirit. Their security services will fuck your shit all up, and they'll do it in pieces.

Why don't they start in those illegal "no-go" zones in Gay Pairee?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, International Double-Naught Cat Speculator at January 12, 2015 07:41 PM (0HooB)

549 Drudge ran the cartoon, too, like you Ace. Good for you. Meanwhile "fair, balanced and unafraid" Fox did not, and called that guy the prophet Mohammed.

WTF?

Posted by: PJ at January 12, 2015 07:43 PM (cHuNI)

550 Isn't it time for elbows?

In the favorite moose-limb color scheme?

Yellow and GREEN?

Dave?

Posted by: scottst at January 12, 2015 07:43 PM (idA6q)

551 There's link on Drudge about Ted Cruz saying we don't need " mushy middle" running for president.

I'm going to have to listen again to see if he meant Romney.

I broke my humidifier Friday morning. It makes a big difference this time of year. My eyes are burning & red from the heat being on in house.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:43 PM (sj3Ax)

552 To be fair, the frogs fought their asses off in WWI. And I think that's what did them in as a nation.
Posted by: Donna V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:36 PM (+XMAD)


They've also fought their asses off in the years since WWII. Granted many of these campaigns were ultimately defeats but that was more due to political and strategic blunders than a lack of fight. In modern times individual French soldiers and units are known for fighting bravely and well.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 12, 2015 07:43 PM (pAlYe)

553 But they know something is wrong and it has to do with muslims.


That's quite a bit farther than our own leftards are willing to go.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 12, 2015 07:37 PM (0cMkb)

Good points. Remember, it takes a while for a leftist to connect the dots. And many never do.

I'll bet many of the people in that crowd thought that now the terrorists see how strongly we feel about this, they'll leave us alone. Of course, the terrorists will not. And after a while, it will dawn on those people that the terrorists really don't give a good gdamn how they feel about it or how much they march around Paris.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:44 PM (+XMAD)

554 Why don't they start in those illegal "no-go" zones in Gay Pairee?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, International Double-Naught Cat Speculator at January 12, 2015 07:41 PM (0HooB)


The leaders are cowards as are many in the population.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 12, 2015 07:44 PM (oFCZn)

555 He's got the Michelle Obama "Bring Back Our Girls" pout. They forgot the hashtag, though.

Posted by: t-bird at January 12, 2015 07:45 PM (FcR7P)

556 I don't think their is a 'punchline' here. I think it's just a mash-up of memes to both remind their readers without actually having a point. It's too conventional to be clear and make a rational point. Basically, they all smoked ten bowls and then drew the most 'profound' thing that came to mind.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 05:36 PM

This. It's a New Yorker magazine type cartoon. They don't what it's about either.

Posted by: otho at January 12, 2015 07:45 PM (tBSrv)

557 544
Let's call those 'No-Go Zones' what they are...they're Colonies.



It's not immigration if you are ceding them territory. It's Colonization.

Posted by: wheatie at January 12, 2015 07:40 PM (AQysw)
------If you have conceded a "No-Go Zone", you've already lost. You no longer exert sovereign authority over what used to be your own territory in the middle of your own capitol. The only way to reassert your authority is to go house to house and eliminate those who would oppose your authority. There is no other way,

Posted by: Old Blue at January 12, 2015 07:45 PM (vVSOO)

558 550 Isn't it time for elbows?

Posted by: scottst at January 12, 2015 07:43 PM (idA6q)



The offensive tweets to the ESPN staff was pretty damn funny. I like Herbie's retort.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:45 PM (wVWRM)

559 The French were very tough putting down that islamic nonsense in Mali. No more flare ups there, either.

Posted by: navybrat at January 12, 2015 07:45 PM (JgC5a)

560 The leaders are cowards as are many in the population.

I'd like to see them try that here, although I've heard parts of Dearbornistan are also no-go.

That shit wouldn't fly in the South.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, International Double-Naught Cat Speculator at January 12, 2015 07:46 PM (0HooB)

561 I'm surprised the jihadists haven't gone all Gay Paree in Malmo, Sweden and elsewhere in Scandinavia.

They did, however, barbeque a few Volvos in Stockholm a while back.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2015 07:47 PM (FsuaD)

562 Hahahaha. A no go zone in Birmingham would go over like a fart in church.

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 12, 2015 07:47 PM (fLKzW)

563 This. It's a New Yorker magazine type cartoon. They don't what it's about either.

"I think I'll kill myself."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, International Double-Naught Cat Speculator at January 12, 2015 07:48 PM (0HooB)

564 Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2015 07:47 PM (FsuaD)

Car burnings were down 14% this New Years In Paris. Something like only 914 this year.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:49 PM (wVWRM)

565 Fck Charlie. I hope no one buys that rag.... for the next 100 years, every month they publish.

But the islamists.....Fck them even more. I deployed to fight them, and so will my son. And his.

Posted by: stuff he said at January 12, 2015 07:49 PM (VXrjn)

566 I checked out Ace's mustard in the sidebar. It looks delicious.

I wonder if he's bathing in it now?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2015 07:49 PM (FsuaD)

567 Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 12, 2015 07:47 PM (fLKzW)

I take it you roll down the MLK nightly.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:50 PM (wVWRM)

568 563 This. It's a New Yorker magazine type cartoon. They don't what it's about either.

"I think I'll kill myself."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, International Double-Naught Cat Speculator at January 12, 2015 07:48 PM (0HooB)


I'd just like to point out that Mo holding a sign saying that.....would....be....awesome.

And make 10x the point that their lame cartoon did.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 12, 2015 07:50 PM (0cMkb)

569 heya eleven.

all I see in that CH cartoon is dick and balls.


Hat looks pretty ballsy SMFH.

Face is kinda dickish but I think that's just muhammed.

Posted by: eleven at January 12, 2015 07:50 PM (MDgS8)

570 So, like, I was wondering if the magazine ever skewers people that look like THEY do? You know, skinny, incredibly hip sorta-nihilist euro-dweebs?

Posted by: bofh at January 12, 2015 07:40 PM (ggyaL)

Nah. Leftists don't find leftists funny. What's to satirize? They're the most evolved beings on the planet, as far as they're concerned.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:51 PM (+XMAD)

571 BTW one dead already in the Washington DC subway as smoke fills the tunnel. Fire of unknown origin.

Should I say it? Terrorism?

Posted by: PJ at January 12, 2015 07:51 PM (cHuNI)

572 Ugh. I was in a meeting for two hours with someone who wasn't feeling well, and now I'm feeling kinda crappy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 12, 2015 07:52 PM (FsuaD)

573 Guy's got a nusack on his head.

That's the meaning.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 12, 2015 07:52 PM (lG2E3)

574 Nutsack, that is.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 12, 2015 07:53 PM (lG2E3)

575 By the way, Obama didn't go to the Paris rally, because they don't speak Austrian in Paris, so President Ten Putt wouldn't have understood what was being said.

Posted by: An Observation - I use Silver Bullet gun oil at January 12, 2015 07:53 PM (ylhEn)

576 What is with the name "Luz" next to the cartoon character? Is that the name of the cartoonist, or is Luz there as a subtle clue as to who this Moreharmed fella really was? Could it be SATAAANNN?!?!

Posted by: Your Evening Church Lady at January 12, 2015 07:53 PM (OXzvH)

577 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 12, 2015 07:52 PM (lG2E3)

So it's a caricature of MUMR?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:54 PM (wVWRM)

578 Ugh. I was in a meeting for two hours with someone who wasn't feeling well, and now I'm feeling kinda crappy.

Jane .....when I think a cold is coming on I load up on Alkaseltzer +.

Yes......Alkaseltzer +.

I swear by it.

Posted by: eleven at January 12, 2015 07:54 PM (MDgS8)

579 "I think I'll kill myself."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, International Double-Naught Cat Speculator at January 12, 2015 07:48 PM

It works. If the "I think I'll kill myself" thing works, it's a New Yorker cartoon. Oh, and you shouldn't make fun of pigs.

Posted by: otho at January 12, 2015 07:55 PM (tBSrv)

580 and the nose is his peepee.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 12, 2015 07:55 PM (OsWis)

581 You know what this thread needs before I come back....?


Protest babes!!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 12, 2015 07:56 PM (AC0lD)

582 Should I say it? Terrorism?
Posted by: PJ at January 12, 2015 07:51 PM (cHuNI)

They don't know yet. They think it might have just been an electrical malfunction.

I think I've only heard of that happening once before on the Metro. Odd that it would happen again - at this time. Not impossible though, I suppose.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 12, 2015 07:56 PM (+XMAD)

583 564
Car burnings were down 14% this New Years In Paris. Something like only 914 this year.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:49 PM (wVWRM)



Sounds like the yutes are assimilating.

Posted by: rickl at January 12, 2015 07:56 PM (sdi6R)

584 Watching football in the WH! Wiping my butt with waygu beef! Suck it, serfs!

Posted by: Tight End Reggie at January 12, 2015 07:57 PM (5voqw)

585 Leftist: Didja' hear the one about Dubya Bush? He's just like his daddy because they both didn't pull outHAHAHAHAHAAH!

Weftist: Ookay...

Weftist: Didja' hear the one about Margaret Sanger?

Leftist: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 07:57 PM (c3xwz)

586 Posted by: rickl at January 12, 2015 07:56 PM (sdi6R)

Heh.

CBS radio news, if you can believe it.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:58 PM (wVWRM)

587 It works. If the "I think I'll kill myself" thing works, it's a New Yorker cartoon. Oh, and you shouldn't make fun of pigs.

Posted by: otho at January 12, 2015 07:55 PM (tBSrv)


God that was a funny Ace post. Laughed myself sick I did.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 12, 2015 07:58 PM (oFCZn)

588 500 "All is forgiven" is an admission you were wrong to punish someone for some perceived "crime" that then turned out not to be verifiable.


I think you nailed it Anne. That was my first impression too.

Posted by: Stinky Hollyweird Type at January 12, 2015 07:58 PM (JdEZJ)

589 Where is Ace's mustard? I don't see it.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:58 PM (sj3Ax)

590 Nothing says "Religion of Peace" like a burning Citroen in an banlieue!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 12, 2015 07:58 PM (ftVQq)

591 583 564
Car burnings were down 14% this New Years In Paris. Something like only 914 this year.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:49 PM (wVWRM)

Jewish lightning..........

I keed, I keed

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 12, 2015 07:58 PM (b5BZa)

592 My interpretation of the cartoon is that even Mohammed is griefstricken at the massacre of innocent, albeit vulgar, blasphemers. So he is weeping and forgiving them by holding up the sign.

Posted by: PJ at January 12, 2015 07:59 PM (cHuNI)

593 As fucked up as it was for Obama not to go, I wonder why a Republican delegation didn't go. It would have been a pretty powerful signal had Boehner and McConnell for instance shown up together.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 12, 2015 07:35 PM

I said the same thing to my wife. then thought a second and realized they would be crucified by the media for "exploiting a tragedy for partisan purposes". You know that would happen, *spit* f...ing media.

Posted by: Farmer at January 12, 2015 08:00 PM (o/90i)

594 Golfman,
2015 car burnings? It's the 12th, they'll catch up.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 08:00 PM (sj3Ax)

595 ...good cripes. Someone put up a filler thread or something. Blurry art even...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 08:00 PM (c3xwz)

596 It obviously means that Muhammed, you know the REAL Muhammed, not the Muhammed that those evil islamists worship, is crying for the dead innocents, as if to say "I never meant my teachings to be perverted this way!" Pah! Dhimmis! Whats left of Charlie Hebdo is kow-towing to the islamist scum too. Screw "Je suis Charlie." Instead "Je suis Charlie Martel!" Google Charles "The Hammer" Martel. MEN OF THE WEST: If you don't know how to "Gird your loins" for battle, you'd better figure it out quickly.

Posted by: Frank Rosato at January 12, 2015 08:01 PM (CwQ82)

597 588 500 "All is forgiven" is an admission you were wrong to punish someone for some perceived "crime" that then turned out not to be verifiable.

What chu talking about Willis?

Posted by: Patrick Fitzgerald at January 12, 2015 08:01 PM (wVWRM)

598 ...good cripes. Someone put up a filler thread or something. Blurry art even...


Elbows. Elbows. Elbows. Elbows.

Everybody now...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, International Double-Naught Cat Speculator at January 12, 2015 08:02 PM (0HooB)

599 595 ...good cripes. Someone put up a filler thread or something. Blurry art even...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12

Why Phil Donahue is a tampon string

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 12, 2015 08:02 PM (b5BZa)

600 @ 557- We have an 80 mile no go zone at the border between Arizona and Mexico and our gov'tallows it because patrolling it would tear up the ground in the national park.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 12, 2015 08:02 PM (49mCD)

601 ..good cripes. Someone put up a filler thread or something. Blurry art even...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 08:00 PM (c3xwz)
------
I suppose if you use the proper substance the cover cartoon here would be blurry...

Posted by: RioBravo at January 12, 2015 08:02 PM (z27Ny)

602 "Blurry art even..."

Gum Thread?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 12, 2015 08:03 PM (wvEfm)

603 It's a message from the goat side.

Posted by: Achmed at January 12, 2015 08:03 PM (lG2E3)

604
Car burnings were down 14% this New Years In Paris. Something like only 914 this year.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 07:49 PM (wVWRM)


start burning my neighborhood housewives' Suburbans and you will be dropped into the hot grease, so fast you'll have a nice crust before you even know what happened.

Posted by: Steve Kroft at January 12, 2015 08:03 PM (ImzkZ)

605

Je Suis Mallard Fillmore

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2015 08:04 PM (kdS6q)

606 I broke my humidifier Friday morning. It makes a big difference this time of year. My eyes are burning & red from the heat being on in house.
Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:43 PM (sj3Ax)

--

Poor person's humidifier - put bowls of water next to the heating vents.

Posted by: @votermom at January 12, 2015 08:04 PM (cbfNE)

607 Golfman,
Never mind. I saw entire post by you.
Someone posted car burnings in France were down this year, not full post.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 08:04 PM (sj3Ax)

608 Europe's collective memory will go into the black hole again. Next time they will be all pissed and burn candles, and the muzzies will plan a next time.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 12, 2015 08:04 PM (WNERA)

609 Off nasty butt smell Kroft sock

Posted by: stace at January 12, 2015 08:04 PM (ImzkZ)

610 Sorry down 12% from 1,067 from last year.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 08:05 PM (wVWRM)

611

Je Suis Rex Morgan M.D.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2015 08:05 PM (kdS6q)

612 I broke my humidifier Friday morning. It makes a big difference this time of year. My eyes are burning & red from the heat being on in house.
Posted by: Carol
------------------------

Improvise - Put a couple of pots on the stove, bring to boil (no lid), shut them off and wrap a towel around them to keep them worm. If you have electric 'burners', make sure that they have cooled enough to not burn the towel.

Posted by: Randle McMurphy at January 12, 2015 08:05 PM (vPh3W)

613 Is that little NFL minor league game on yet?


Mariotta v some big ten team?

Posted by: eleven at January 12, 2015 08:05 PM (MDgS8)

614 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 12, 2015 08:05 PM (4gN5w)

615 The thing is, attacking Charlie Hebdo and defending the Muslim radicals that shot the place up is a losing proposition. And, in fact, its a useful shibboleth moment. You can tell who's who by how they react to this stuff; President Obama for once in his career was smart enough not to waffle too badly and take the "can't we all just get along" tack this time.

Posted by: French Police at January 12, 2015 08:05 PM (39g3+)

616 Where is Ace's mustard?

Ace's Mustard is opening for Meat Loaf at The Forum in Inglewood for three shows starting this Wednesday.

Posted by: not this shit again at January 12, 2015 08:06 PM (5uPw0)

617 I think they are referring to the French as a whole who did not have much support for their magazine. Come on, the French are worse than we are with their PC. That is why there is the je suis charlie sign being held. They are pointing out the hypocrisy. I think it is brilliant.

Posted by: haddicakes at January 12, 2015 08:07 PM (lD+4C)

618 As a former cartoonist in Paris and a longtime Charlie reader, I would guess that what the cartoon intended to satirize was the fact that Muslims believe that no matter how heinous their crimes, they will be forgiven after death--merely because they are Muslim. They don't have to even confess or repent them, as in Catholicism.

So Charlie was adding one more dig at the hypocrisy of Islam's arrogant and primitive brutality, using their own tragic victimization as the hook. Mild stuff, but any satire at all is fairly brave under the circumstances.

Posted by: Kierkegaard at January 12, 2015 08:07 PM (rpsRg)

619

Je Suis Apartment 3-G

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2015 08:07 PM (kdS6q)

620 Thank you, Votermom.
I bought it in late 2013 & am surprised it lasted as long as it did. Humidifier broke when I couldn't hold on to it & dropped it, full on kitchen floor.
My hands are very weak & I spill & break things all the time.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 08:08 PM (sj3Ax)

621 I am waiting for news broadcasters to start referring to "The Messiah" Jesus or "The Incarnate God-man" Jesus. After all, if they're consistent...

I mean, most of them don't even use "Christ" as a title any more (which basically means messiah, but they don't know that and think its His last name, like Jones).

Posted by: French Police at January 12, 2015 08:08 PM (39g3+)

622 Je suis Charlie Brown

Posted by: Charlie Brown at January 12, 2015 08:08 PM (vPh3W)

623 It is obvious to all of us why Islamics stage terror attacks (they are trying to terrorize people into converting to Islam) - but the vast majority of people in this country don't understand that - at all. Go out and ask not conservatives their opinion of why there are Islamic terror attacks.


Posted by: An Observation - I use Silver Bullet gun oil at January 12, 2015 08:08 PM (ylhEn)

624 Je Suis Le Canard

Posted by: stuff he said at January 12, 2015 08:09 PM (VXrjn)

625 You know what WOULD have been funny and spot on? A cartoon of the martian ambassador from "Mars Attacks" with the same text.

A la "Don't run, we are your friends" Ack-ack... Ack-ack-ack!

Posted by: otho at January 12, 2015 08:09 PM (tBSrv)

626 Oh by the way, read news today: the artist/writer of Asterix is coming out of retirement to do a Charlie Hebdo-themed comic. Muslims watch out; Asterix will punch you out of your sandals.

Posted by: French Police at January 12, 2015 08:09 PM (39g3+)

627 Ace's Mustard is opening for Meat Loaf at The Forum in Inglewood for three shows starting this Wednesday.

Posted by: not this shit again


I heard they were going to play the Incan next week but they cut Ace's Mustard.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 08:10 PM (c3xwz)

628 Damnit, Ace, I just bought the mustard and I only have, like, 20 different kinds of mustard in my pantry already. But I must have the crunchy mustard with seeds and whiskey in it!

Yeah, I really like mustard.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands and crunchy mustard) at January 12, 2015 08:10 PM (+XMAD)

629 Je ne suis French Police.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 12, 2015 08:10 PM (39g3+)

630 It is obvious to all of us why Islamics stage terror attacks (they are trying to terrorize people into converting to Islam) - but the vast majority of people in this country don't understand that - at all. Go out and ask not conservatives their opinion of why there are Islamic terror attacks.



I wouldn't be able to stomache the stupid.

Why does my spellcheck not like stomache that's how it's spelled.

Nope....it's stomach. I'm dumb.

Posted by: eleven at January 12, 2015 08:12 PM (MDgS8)

631 Thank you, #616.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 08:12 PM (sj3Ax)

632 I mean, most of them don't even use "Christ" as a title any more (which basically means messiah, but they don't know that and think its His last name, like Jones).
Posted by: French Police at January 12, 2015 08:08 PM (39g3+)

And H. is his middle initial. It stands for Henry or something.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands and crunchy mustard) at January 12, 2015 08:12 PM (+XMAD)

633

Je Suis Word Jumble

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2015 08:12 PM (kdS6q)

634 Posted by: French Police at January 12, 2015 08:08 PM (39g3+)

I've seen this noted the past few days.

When do they mention Jesus, period?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 08:12 PM (wVWRM)

635 558:crap, I missed it. What was the hate tweet for Heather Cox? Why would anybody hate her? Don't like tall, pretty, red heads?

Posted by: puddleglum@work at January 12, 2015 08:13 PM (20X6f)

636 Posted by: eleven at January 12, 2015 08:12 PM (MDgS

Short for stomach ache.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 08:13 PM (wVWRM)

637 The H stands for Hallelujah.



Hello?

Posted by: eleven at January 12, 2015 08:14 PM (MDgS8)

638 Posted by: puddleglum@work at January 12, 2015 08:13 PM (20X6f)

Why do you have a porn star name?

Or something like that.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 12, 2015 08:14 PM (wVWRM)

639 552 They've also fought their asses off in the years since WWII. Granted many of these campaigns were ultimately defeats but that was more due to political and strategic blunders than a lack of fight. In modern times individual French soldiers and units are known for fighting bravely and well.

Yeah. I like and respect the French. But I do not like and respect their elites. Nor ours.

Posted by: Splunge at January 12, 2015 08:14 PM (qyomX)

640 And H. is his middle initial. It stands for Henry or something.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands and crunchy mustard) at January 12, 2015 08:12 PM


Horatio

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 12, 2015 08:15 PM (4gN5w)

641

Je Suis a Coupon for $1.00 off Tide Detergent

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2015 08:15 PM (kdS6q)

642 Je suis Ace's mustard

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 12, 2015 08:15 PM (oFCZn)

643 632 And H. is his middle initial. It stands for Henry or something.

Haploid. It's supposed to be a Biology joke but I don't get it.

Posted by: Splunge at January 12, 2015 08:16 PM (qyomX)

644 because south park would only run their islam bashing episode once and Charlie never stopped

IIRC South Park wasn't nearly as vile or actually bashing Mo just portraying him (censored by Comedy Central sometimes). I think 2 of the 3 episodes that had Mo were on southparkstudios dot com til they moved to hulu plus. Comedy Central blanked Mo originally and then pulled the episodes after the failed pickup bomb in NYC.

Posted by: DaveA at January 12, 2015 08:16 PM (DL2i+)

645 571:Should I say it? Terrorism?


Not necessarily. The DC Metro is sloppy, corrupt, and disorganized. More than likely it was a electric snafu caused by WMATA incompetence.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at January 12, 2015 08:16 PM (20X6f)

646 Jesus Hallelujah Christ Jr.


Posted by: eleven at January 12, 2015 08:16 PM (MDgS8)

647 Ace's mustard

Otherwise know as Gentleman's Relish.

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 12, 2015 08:17 PM (rwI+c)

648 New one up

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 12, 2015 08:17 PM (c3xwz)

649 Je Suis Boener's liver

Posted by: Fava Beans and a nice Chianti at January 12, 2015 08:17 PM (ahBY0)

650 Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 07:58 PM (sj3Ax)

On the sidebar - it's not "his" it's some Canadian brand he found on Amazon and likes.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands and crunchy mustard) at January 12, 2015 08:17 PM (+XMAD)

651
And H. is his middle initial. It stands for Henry or something.
Posted by: Donna




Hashimoto

An old Jack Douglas joke from "Shut Up and Eat Your Snowshoes"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2015 08:18 PM (kdS6q)

652 MEN OF THE WEST: If you don't know how to "Gird your loins" for battle, you'd better figure it out quickly.

http://tinyurl.com/lozxs9m

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 12, 2015 08:19 PM (xq1UY)

653 Carol, do you wake up with red dry eyes?
I don't know if this will help, but I've found that sleeping in a knitted hat keeps my sinuses from drying out in winter. I pull the hat down over my eyes.

Posted by: @votermom at January 12, 2015 08:19 PM (cbfNE)

654 Posted by: Kierkegaard at January 12, 2015 08:07 PM (rpsRg)

Interesting perspective. And welcome!

What might your opinion be of crunchy mustard?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 08:19 PM (5knmJ)

655 You know you have some serious butt gas when you get beat with a metal stool for letting one slip by:

https://tinyurl.com/mwpooep

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 12, 2015 08:20 PM (OsWis)

656 Fuck him and the horse he rode in on also

Posted by: Nevergiveup


A flying horse, seems a little ambitious but go for it.

Posted by: DaveA at January 12, 2015 08:23 PM (DL2i+)

657 638: You've never read The Silver Chair by CS Lewis?? (The Chronicles of Narnia).

Posted by: puddleglum@work at January 12, 2015 08:24 PM (20X6f)

658 I think the point is that "all is forgiven" is being said not by Mohammad but by the newspaper itself, as Mohammad is stating instead "je suis charlie" in solidarity with those slain. It's another thumbing of the nose at the hypocrisy of religion. I dunno, it seems very French to me......

Posted by: Holly at January 12, 2015 08:24 PM (P1lVg)

659 #596-I see it your way, or a close variation. This is a thumb in the eye and a big "fuck you" to their supporters, particularly those blaming Islam.

Posted by: Motorhead at January 12, 2015 08:25 PM (jc4t8)

660 I think it means "I forgive you for lampooning me, while you're currently lampooning me." That type of thing.

Posted by: Cory at January 12, 2015 08:26 PM (38KH6)

661 They're mocking the belated "sorry's" from the moderate Muslims.

In other words: We Don't Believe Your Lying Muslim Ass When You Apologize.

You have to have a bit of bite and a real cynical attitude about most people true motives.

I can understand what they're getting at. Sort of like how I feel about Republicans about now.

I'm just surprised they didn't include the 3 million people who flooded Paris Sunday. Their "je suis Charlie" falls a little flat also in light of past performance. But I guess they're giving them the benefit of the doubt for now but in about a week or so when it's back to business as usual they might have a few words to say about the French people's flightiness. And lack of commitment to the hard work impelled by hard choices arising from bad situations.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 12, 2015 08:28 PM (RZzX3)

662 Votermom.
When I was in my early 20s I was going to Mass Eye & Ear in Boston & ophthalmologist told me it was very rare for anyone that young to have such dry eyes & that it usually signaled getting rheuyotoid arthritis when I was older.
That ran in my mother's side of the family & Thank God I didn't get that.
Often I'll wake up with my eyes crying. Older brother has dry eyes too & said crying like that is from dry eyes.
I have allergies year round. It's worse outside but I have runny nose constantly.
One doctor gave me prescription for Opcon A & then it was available OTC.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 08:30 PM (sj3Ax)

663 Ralph Peters
... Old Blue
...
Which is what we should have done in Afghanistan


Posted by: Nevergiveup


Well the 3 of you are wrong in good company given that the failed state of Afghanistan is where AlQueda metastasized.

Posted by: DaveA at January 12, 2015 08:30 PM (DL2i+)

664 Donna &&& V,
Is it in Ace's Amazon store?

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 08:33 PM (sj3Ax)

665 The message is subtle, like the p(ee) in swimming......

Posted by: Alaska Paul at January 12, 2015 08:34 PM (Hc+rA)

666
It's okay for CH to hate Muslims, but when anyone on the Right criticizes Muslims, CH turns into Charles Johnson.

Posted by: french cartoonist Rob Lowe at January 12, 2015 08:34 PM (IKE1C)

667 Muslims object to portrayals of al-Masih too. They do mock the crucifix, because they think it was Judas or Simon of Cyrene up there; but they never mock al-Masih.

They protested "Last Temptation of Christ" arm in arm with Bill Donohue.

***

In what way does this apply to my comment?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 12, 2015 08:34 PM (DmNpO)

668 MEN OF THE WEST: If you don't know how to "Gird your loins" for battle, you'd better figure it out quickly.

http://tinyurl.com/lozxs9m

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 12, 2015 08:19 PM (xq1UY)



Or we could just not wear dresses into battle.

Posted by: CM at January 12, 2015 08:34 PM (0NdlF)

669
yay nood beer!

Posted by: french cartoonist Rob Lowe at January 12, 2015 08:35 PM (IKE1C)

670 Donna &&&&& V,
I see the mustard now. Thank you. I know sidebar disappears once we start commenting.
I looked & didn't notice it earlier.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2015 08:36 PM (sj3Ax)

671 You've never read The Silver Chair by CS Lewis?? (The Chronicles of Narnia).

Posted by: puddleglum@work at January 12, 2015 08:24 PM (20X6f)
Ah, I love that book. And Puddleglum's always been a favorite character of mine, especially when he's drunk (or "pretending" to be as he claimed, lol). I also love Glimfeather and quote him a lot "Tu-whoo! Tu-whoo! I saw you two, you flew!"

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2015 08:38 PM (rldyO)

672 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 12, 2015 08:28 PM (RZzX3)



I like this interpretation, hope it's what they're saying.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2015 08:39 PM (rldyO)

673 Posted by: Kierkegaard at January 12, 2015 08:07 PM (rpsRg)

Hmmm, Ergan Caner, a former Mulsim turned Christian, says that Muslims are terrified of allah because the Koran says that allah is as close as the "jugular" -- meaning that at any moment allah may condemn one to Hell. He said that Muslims are never assured of their getting into heaven because allah is very arbitrary. He also said that's why when Muslims hear the true story of Jesus it is a novelty that one can be assured of salvation.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2015 08:43 PM (rldyO)

674 Yes, I agree, Mohammed is not the one speaking of forgiveness.


So yea, maybe they're being sarcastic...oh, sure, you hold up a sign, and voila, everything is fine and dandy.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 08:46 PM (5knmJ)

675 Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2015 08:43 PM (rldyO)

Caner's right.

Terror is at the heart of being Muslim; not even "terror" in the "blowing sh!t up" sense, just existential horror. For instance: there's the concept of "the torment in the grave", where the Muslim believes he will actually *feel* the worms eating his dead flesh after burial. And then there's sura 19 which teaches that everyone, even Muslims, will be tossed into Hell. The hope is that God will pull the Muslims *out* of Hell, but still - there he is, hearing the screams and the flames.

Sam Shamoun has done great work on answering-islam explaining all this.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 12, 2015 08:54 PM (AVEe1)

676 Carol do warm compresses (washcloths) help at all?
Some people say fish oil supplements help ( not sure if I believe that)

Posted by: @votermom at January 12, 2015 08:57 PM (cbfNE)

677 I think the cartoon means that even muhammed is forgiven of his own inspired murders, if he just holds up a 'je suis charlie' sign.

Posted by: lauraw at January 12, 2015 08:59 PM (2JSDI)

678 674 Yes, I agree, Mohammed is not the one speaking of forgiveness.


So yea, maybe they're being sarcastic...oh, sure, you hold up a sign, and voila, everything is fine and dandy.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 08:46 PM (5knmJ)



That sounds about right to me.

Posted by: rickl at January 12, 2015 09:08 PM (sdi6R)

679 The tear then is a crocodile tear. I understand the sentiment of "vomiting" on their new friends when no one supported them in life, BUT, I'd rather people support late than NEVER!

I'm actually impressed that PC France is honoring them in this way. I know iowahawk made fun of the vigils, but the French could have easily condemned CH and cowered in their homes. Remember the terrorists were still at large when those initial rallies were held. I thought it very brave.

Oh, and CH shouldn't condemn their new friends too much, because NO ONE said "Je Suis Lars" when the film-maker was stabbed to death. NO ONE said "Je Suis Rigby" when the British soldier was beheaded in broad daylight. I'm just glad that SOMETHING has finally woken people up. Now maybe Hollande will get his ass kicked out of offce.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2015 09:11 PM (rldyO)

680 "Why don't they start in those illegal "no-go" zones in Gay Pairee?"

Because the residents of those "no-go" zones reliably vote for one of the political parties and that political party protects them from that sort of unpleasantness. That is the same reason that violent gangs in Chicago are essentially immune from police interference.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 12, 2015 09:35 PM (PD6iL)

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Posted by: Tina at January 12, 2015 09:39 PM (GEvG9)

682 Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2015 09:11 PM (rldyO)

Did you say ass?! I don't think I have ever heard you cuss before!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 09:49 PM (5knmJ)

683 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 09:49 PM (5knmJ)

LOL! That must be my Irish grandfather jumping out of me!

PS, I got Theo Van Gogh confused with Lars Vilk. Just wanted to clear that up.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2015 10:00 PM (rldyO)

684 Well, but some von Gogh or other did get drug out and stabbed to death right out in the street though, didn't he? In Holland?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 12, 2015 10:06 PM (5knmJ)

685 To understand the cartoon, I think you have to get outside of the American mindset--which is pretty hard for us to do--and just look at it as context-free as possible. Don't bring anything of your own to the table, but look at other Charlie Hebdo cartoons and try to figure out where they're coming from.

I look at their other stuff, and it's pretty dang harsh. Moreover, a bunch of their buddies have been killed. Hence, I don't think it's likely that this is meant to be a kumbaya cartoon.

The figure is saying "I am Charlie," but (IMO) it is the magazine that's saying, "All is forgiven."

And I think it's a sarcastic message. In other words, the simplistic sign-holding is insufficient against the magnitude of the deeds committed and thus insufficient to elicit forgiveness. As Rhett said of Scarlett, only a child thinks saying "I'm sorry" fixes everything.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at January 12, 2015 10:08 PM (mPYNA)

686 Here's my take (and I spent some time living in Europe, FWIW).

Previously, one of their covers depicted jihadists approaching Mohammed in the afterlife, and he's got a thought bubble above him with something to the effect of "I'm surrounded by idiots". I believe this is a take off of that - that the idiots have 'done it' once again, and that even Mohammed himself is in solidarity with the "Je Suis Charlie" movement because the jihadists are so far afield in how the religion should be practiced. Leftist tripe, yes, but also will anger Islamists on many levels a) depiction of Mohammed b) showing solidarity with the "infidels" c) forgiveness? We have no need for your weak forgiveness.

Posted by: Katja at January 12, 2015 10:31 PM (oi4A+)

687 My thought, as a half occasional satirist?

They're portraying mohammad in a way he would simply never be. Islamists especially are offended by weakness. They are not only showing him, they are showing him to be weak. It is the ultimate insult.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 12, 2015 11:06 PM (QCo5R)

688 Seems pretty clear to me. It's satirizing all the leaders from various Muslim countries who showed up at the big rally last weekend with crocodile tears. Leaders from countries such as Qatar and the Palestinian Authority were there marching as if they gave a shit about free speech or about the rights of non-Muslims, and just because they struck a "Je suis Charlie" pose, we're supposed to forgive and forget all their outrages against basic human rights and Western civilization. We're supposed to be impressed, and say "tout es pardonné, mon ami!" as if we really believe these bastards are sincerely sorrowful that some Western satirists got blown away.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at January 12, 2015 11:31 PM (AcTdG)

689 His hat and nose look like a dick.

Posted by: BB at January 13, 2015 12:45 AM (lcN3W)

690 Kathy from Kansas is right. But I would go a step further. It is poking fun at ALL the vicious critics of Charlie that are now hypocritically showing solidarity. Until people were massacred they were all for silencing Charlie and still are. They have only been temporarily shamed into supporting free speech. In their hearts they despise free speech. They only want to allow speech that they deem appropriate.

Posted by: kraki at January 13, 2015 06:58 AM (krvsp)

691 The cover is a nasty piece of work: it mocks the Je suis Charlies for their mendacity and cowardice, and for their naiveté in believing that their candlelight vigils will surely convince the head-chopping savages of the error of their ways---they will repent and forgive their trespasses. Moreover, millions of Charlies will buy and proudly display the magazine that mocks them.

Posted by: nick at January 13, 2015 08:19 AM (EMQZg)

692 Moreover, in an unknowing act of self-mockery, millions of Charlies will buy and proudly display the magazine that mocks them. In their boundless mendacity, they will point to it as a symbol of themselves, which, again unknowingly, it is.

French enough?

Posted by: nick at January 13, 2015 08:48 AM (EMQZg)

693
If anyone can explain this to me, let me know.

Cereally? It is a cartoon of Mohammed, shedding tears and claiming "I am Charlie".

If that doesn't get the wack job Islamonazis and the Progressives wound up, I don't know what will. Maybe a cartoon of ol' Mo shagging a camel?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at January 13, 2015 12:09 PM (1hM1d)

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