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Transformative: Since 2009, "Government" Has Moved from Voters' Fourth Biggest Concern to Top Problem

Nice work, Reagan of the Left.

Did Reagan actually manage this? I'm gonna look that up. Reagan talked a lot about government being the problem, but I don't know that he actually convinced people to rank "Government" as the nation's number one problem.

We needed the colossal incompetence and distasteful arrogance of the Obama Administration to do that.

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1 First!

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 02, 2015 05:24 PM (3a+CI)

2 Dva!

Posted by: junior at January 02, 2015 05:25 PM (UWFpX)

3 MOAR GUBMINT!!!!

Posted by: Julia at January 02, 2015 05:26 PM (8ZskC)

4 Even LIV starting to see problems w Uncle Sugar.

Posted by: ever at January 02, 2015 05:26 PM (hRV3r)

5 What with Hairy Reid getting mauled by a bear while chasing kiddies through the woods my life is now complete.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 02, 2015 05:26 PM (3a+CI)

6 I wake up from a high fructose induced coma and read about a guy in his garage bending space, two drug addicts in a closet, and another poll.

Skip the waffles, I'm drinking the syrup right from the bottle.

Posted by: Midnight Panhandler at January 02, 2015 05:27 PM (0mTra)

7 We're here to help.

*hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at January 02, 2015 05:28 PM (8ZskC)

8 Any news on that article five convention?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 02, 2015 05:28 PM (R8hU8)

9 Just keep reminding the LIV,

If they can give you all this wonderful stuff, they can just as easily take it away. Or send you away.

Posted by: rd at January 02, 2015 05:28 PM (k19Aq)

10 It's not the amount of government per se, but the lack of skill with which it is applied.

Posted by: El Gobernadore Jeb Bush at January 02, 2015 05:28 PM (8ZskC)

11 Any news on that article five convention?

Right before the Number Six Dance.

Posted by: Taggart at January 02, 2015 05:30 PM (8ZskC)

12 top 20?

Posted by: Cheshirecat at January 02, 2015 05:30 PM (Dwytc)

13 Any news on that article five convention?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 02, 2015 05:28 PM (R8hU



I do not think this is an answer. I can see the convention taken over by a bunch of SJW and professional politicians.

Posted by: rd at January 02, 2015 05:30 PM (k19Aq)

14 government is, get this, the major concern of American voters



Posted by: John of Salisbury at January 02, 2015 05:30 PM (8CdUx)

15 The fusion of news media, Hollywood and government largesse:


Infotainvernment

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 02, 2015 05:31 PM (NeFrd)

16 Made 12 by luck. ^..^(____)~~~
So what are we talking about?

Posted by: Cheshirecat at January 02, 2015 05:31 PM (Dwytc)

17 can we skip this part and just get the part where we get to give ol' Harry a beating?

Posted by: jc at January 02, 2015 05:31 PM (i8c5b)

18 I saw a thing floating around the other day hinting that gosh darn it, parents just can't be trusted to make their kids' lunches. The state mandated lunches are better for the young ones.

It's stories like this that cause people to notice government overreach. Thank goodness the nanny staters never sleep. There may be hope for us yet.

Posted by: Lauren at January 02, 2015 05:33 PM (MYCIw)

19 Government is just the word for things we do together -- like tazing people with heart conditions for jaywalking, or kicking somebody in the face for evading sin taxes on cigarettes.

Posted by: Progressive Trash Ruling Class at January 02, 2015 05:33 PM (ZPrif)

20 I do not think this is an answer. I can see the convention taken over by a bunch of SJW and professional politicians.

Posted by: rd


You are correct, sir. When it was all said and done, there would be constitutional protections for closet poopers.

Posted by: pep at January 02, 2015 05:33 PM (4nR9/)

21 Even though no one is really Letting It Burn, things are getting awfully smoky.

And everyone is starting to notice.

Posted by: rd at January 02, 2015 05:33 PM (k19Aq)

22 Boo!

Posted by: Michael Mann at January 02, 2015 05:33 PM (2/p31)

23 DRUDGE REPORT @DRUDGE_REPORT 2m2 minutes ago
Japan births fall to record low... http://drudge.tw/1D0B8gu

But someday Japan will wake up from it's panty-sniffing, weirdo shut-in phase and ... thanks to xenophobia and racism ... Japan will still be Japanese.

Same can't be said of Europe. Or America.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 02, 2015 05:35 PM (ZPrif)

24 17 can we skip this part and just get the part where we get to give ol' Harry a beating?


Posted by: jc at January 02, 2015 05:31 PM (i8c5b)

Harry was pretty much taken to task in the earlier post. Time to vet on something else.
^..^(____)~~~

Posted by: Cheshirecat at January 02, 2015 05:35 PM (Dwytc)

25 Even though no one is really Letting It Burn, things are getting awfully smoky.

Pfft! As if there's a "Let" so much as "Stop Wasting Effort Trying To Stop It"...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at January 02, 2015 05:36 PM (DT3rQ)

26 20I do not think this is an answer. I can see the convention taken over by a bunch of SJW and professional politicians.

I mean, we got lucky two hundred twenty odd years ago. Does anyone really think this generation of "statesmen" is the equal of that one?

Posted by: pep at January 02, 2015 05:36 PM (4nR9/)

27 But someday Japan will wake up from it's panty-sniffing, weirdo shut-in phase and ... thanks to xenophobia and racism ... Japan will still be Japanese.

Mind you there'll be about 30,000 of them left by that point at this rate...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at January 02, 2015 05:37 PM (DT3rQ)

28 Headline should read, "Transformative: Since 2009, "Government" Has Moved from Voters' Fourth Biggest Concern to, Get This, Top Problem"

Posted by: Null at January 02, 2015 05:38 PM (xjpRj)

29 There's a 125M Japanese. I think current projections are they might get down to 100M by mid-century.

Japan isn't on the verge of disappearing. But they are shrinking in power, numbers, and influence.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 02, 2015 05:39 PM (ZPrif)

30 And tentacle pron will still be tentacle pron.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 02, 2015 05:40 PM (3a+CI)

31 Just remember, a good percentage of those are unhappy with the pace of government expansion and see republicans as the enemy that concerns them

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 02, 2015 05:40 PM (XmOA9)

32 Yes, that poll matches what we've been tracking. From the email, social media and blog comments we've been reading, distrust in government is trending.

But just to be sure, I'll check with my contact at HHS to see if what psychiatrists are documenting in the electronic medical records that are accessible from the Obamacare Hub match my findings.

Posted by: "Phil" from the NSA at January 02, 2015 05:41 PM (ABcz/)

33 Mind you there'll be about 30,000 of them left by that point at this rate...

Are they going to be able to continue supply the world's demand for hentai?

Posted by: CM at January 02, 2015 05:41 PM (0NdlF)

34 "Reagan talked a lot about government being the problem, but I don't know that he actually convinced people to rank 'Government' as the nation's number one problem."

Something that has always bugged me about Reagan is that as a serial candidate, he was a constant fount of facts and studies and anecdotes about government stupidity and government waste -- but then once finally elected, as a sitting President, he backed way off on that line of criticism.

I have heard that attributed to multiple causes.

One was that Reagan felt that the office needed to be protected and strengthened after the disrepute into which Carter had brought it. He wouldn't do certain things which he thought were beneath the dignity of the Presidency, and being too acidic a critic in his public comments was apparently one.

Another is that the voters had saddled him with an oppositional Democratic Congress who loved them some Big Government, and were inclined to cooperate grudgingly with Reagan on some things, just so long as he didn't gore any of their sacred cows or interrupt the flow of pork into their troughs.

And the third reason given is that Reagan pragmatically decided that the external threat of hostile expansionist Soviet communism was more immediate and proximally dangerous than the internal threat of the expanding welfare/regulatory state.

Whatever the actual reasons, it's a genuine shame that the Great Communicator largely quit communicating about the genuine evils and problems of leviathan government. Especially at the time when he had the proverbial bully pulpit from which to speak.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 02, 2015 05:41 PM (noWW6)

35 Finally they see?

Posted by: Carol at January 02, 2015 05:41 PM (sj3Ax)

36 Japan isn't on the verge of disappearing. But they are shrinking in power, numbers, and influence.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 02, 2015 05:39 PM (ZPrif)

As long as there are tentacle pron aficionados, there'll always be a Japan!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 02, 2015 05:42 PM (fL/7/)

37
What continues to pester me is how obama's approvals don't track evenly with "direction of country."

It is masterful how obama and the media separated obama from the USA going down the drain.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 02, 2015 05:43 PM (haxo2)

38 So Prog favorite Ellen DeGeneres posted the exact same Kid Standing on Dog photo on July 1st that Palin did.

Back then the ProgMedia though it was Oh So Cute, kid and dog bonding.

Now it's worse than Hitler cause a Palin did it.


Ben Shapiro retweeted
BiasedGirl @BiasedGirl 7m7 minutes ago
Oh my. ;-) RT @EWErickson: Holy crap. Imagine the outrage if @SarahPalinUSA's kid did *this*. Oh, wait.
https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/551146525129449473/photo/1

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 02, 2015 05:44 PM (ZPrif)

39 back in The Day, it was illegal to depict penetration ( PIV ) in Japanese comic books


but not penetration by octopi tentacles


Tinkers to Evers to Chance... ( one thing leads to another, for you Florida folks )

Posted by: John of Salisbury at January 02, 2015 05:44 PM (8CdUx)

40
I said in 2011 and 2012 that unless we directly connect obama with "direction of country," obama will win.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 02, 2015 05:44 PM (haxo2)

41 Soothsayer,
Limbaugh Theorum?

Posted by: Carol at January 02, 2015 05:44 PM (sj3Ax)

42 I think in the years to come we'll realize we owe a debt of gratitude to the narcissistic obsession that is Barack Obama.

His relentless pursuit of outdated and downright inimical policies mouthed and plead for over the years by Liberal/Progressives and the resultant destruction and chaos that has occurred because of them has brought it to the attention of many who never realized how destructive and dangerous those ideas could be in reality.

Watching an avalanche in a distant country is one thing. Having one fall on your head is another.

The close up perspective gives you the opportunity to fully grasp the terrifying aspects of them. Let alone the reduction in liberty, wealth and health.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 02, 2015 05:45 PM (RZzX3)

43 OT: Tennessee is saving the SEC's bacon and Iowa is being Iowa. I guess getting your ass kicked by an SEC also ran isn't as bad as blowing a huge lead in the fourth QT (Looking at you Pitt. There is a reason I was a Penn State fan growing up, dumbasses).

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at January 02, 2015 05:45 PM (RXp5f)

44 When you can't trust the people who feel you up at airports, who can you trust?

Posted by: --- at January 02, 2015 05:45 PM (MMC8r)

45 Why standing on dogs is worse than an all-powerful government? Explanations always come up a little short.

Posted by: David Rappaport at January 02, 2015 05:45 PM (FZnQH)

46
In fact, I'll bet my left nut that if we delve deep in this poll, you'll find that the reason people rank Govt a top problem is that Congress can't get things done to move the country forward.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 02, 2015 05:46 PM (haxo2)

47 The audits will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: --- at January 02, 2015 05:46 PM (MMC8r)

48 One new Benefits program will destroy those numbers.

Americans love their gubmint cheese.

Posted by: some dope at January 02, 2015 05:46 PM (+kznc)

49 Government's just another way for sayin';

Get up against the wall mother fcuker

And give us all your money

And do what we tell you to do or else.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 02, 2015 05:46 PM (RZzX3)

50 42 Clinger is in my opinion correct in his analysis.
^..^(____)~~~
Once you see what evil look like....

Posted by: Cheshirecat at January 02, 2015 05:47 PM (Dwytc)

51 Jeb will restore our Republic.

Posted by: --- at January 02, 2015 05:48 PM (MMC8r)

52 33 Mind you there'll be about 30,000 of them left by that point at this rate...



Are they going to be able to continue supply the world's demand for hentai?


They might have to start diluting the used panties to homeopathic scales (e.g., one pair of panties in this load of 100,000 has been used).


Posted by: Anachronda at January 02, 2015 05:48 PM (coJ1L)

53 Sprinkles anyone?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 02, 2015 05:48 PM (A4oX7)

54
Limbaugh Theorem, indeed.

The disconnect between obama and all of obama's evils is the Main Problem with The People today.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 02, 2015 05:48 PM (haxo2)

55 46: Yep. There is still a large contingent of tongue bathing Obama cultists. They will NEVER stop believing in The One!!

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at January 02, 2015 05:48 PM (RXp5f)

56 Wow. We have a college bowl playoff, Harry Reid took an ass whoopin', and now this.

Slow down, folks all of this progress is too fast, too furious.

Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2015 05:49 PM (dVmLD)

57 Japan will still be Japanese.

I think it has something to do with their appetite for radioactivity every 60-70 years, keepin that DNA hot.

Posted by: dartist at January 02, 2015 05:49 PM (ahBY0)

58 It seems to me that whenever there is a shift in public opinion such as this, that:

1. The reasons people are dissatisfied with government are along the lines of "government isn't doing enough for me." rather than "I can make responsible decisions for myself and my family better than the government can."

AND

2. Whatever proposed solutions emerge have the result of MORE government rather than BETTER government.



YCMV

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 02, 2015 05:49 PM (NeFrd)

59 OT -

I read this with a certain amount of amusement. Brandon Sanderson, who is a fantasy author that's been mentioned a time or two around here, was having trouble writing his novel 'Shadows of Self'. So instead of writing 'Shadows', he wrote the sequel - 'Bands of Mourning'. Then he went back and wrote 'Shadows'. Both manuscripts have been submitted, and his publisher (Tor) plans to release Bands three months after Shadows.



And for his fans - Shadows is the sequel to 'Alloy of Law'.

Posted by: junior at January 02, 2015 05:49 PM (UWFpX)

60 "What continues to pester me is how obama's approvals don't track evenly with 'direction of country.' It is masterful how obama and the media separated obama from the USA going down the drain."

Obama's schtick of being "outraged" about the constant failures and ineptitudes of the same government of which he is the Commander in Chief might seem dopey to us.

You all know the drill.

No one is angrier than I am! (About stuff I caused to happen.) I'm going to focus "like a laser" on fixing this problem now that it's been brought to my attention! (The attention I normally fix on sports brackets and TV shows.)

But apparently that routine does work to convince certain LIV types that, gosh, maybe all these problems can't be laid at his feet, he's just one man shouldering a superhuman workload and facing adamant opposition. It's amazing he's been able to accomplish as many good things as he has, when you think about it. Hey, the Kardashians are on!

Posted by: torquewrench at January 02, 2015 05:49 PM (noWW6)

61 Boy oh boy, can you imagine the mess this country would be in without a free press and investigative journalism?

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 02, 2015 05:49 PM (fL/7/)

62 Cheer up. Cuomo the Elder is still dead.

Posted by: NYC Parent at January 02, 2015 05:49 PM (HEo6y)

63

It's stories like this that cause people to notice government overreach. Thank goodness the nanny staters never sleep. There may be hope for us yet.
Posted by: Lauren at January 02

We are sliding down the slope. We just haven't reached bobsled speed. Yet.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 02, 2015 05:50 PM (A4oX7)

64 38 So Prog favorite Ellen DeGeneres posted the exact same Kid Standing on Dog photo on July 1st that Palin did.

Portia De Rossia and Sarah Palin...

Posted by: wooga at January 02, 2015 05:50 PM (DTzy9)

65 Americans love their gubmint cheese.

Shouldn't that be "Americans" since there's a lot of newly minted refugees/undocumented Americans getting in on the entitlement gravy train?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 02, 2015 05:51 PM (ABcz/)

66 62
Cheer up. Cuomo the Elder is still dead.

He who laughs last...

Posted by: Abe Vigoda, still alive at January 02, 2015 05:52 PM (coJ1L)

67 HotAir is down?
The N.Koreans have gotten to HotAir? The Bastards!

Posted by: Midnight Panhandler at January 02, 2015 05:52 PM (0mTra)

68 I'm a lifelong Republican, but I think the "Tea Party" extremists in Congress are to blame for voters losing faith in their government.

It's time to reject the politics of hate and cynicism and work together to find real solutions for working families.

Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at January 02, 2015 05:53 PM (Ks4nX)

69 "We needed the colossal incompetence and distasteful arrogance of the Obama Administration to do that."

Hey! We helped, too!

Posted by: GOPe at January 02, 2015 05:54 PM (1CroS)

70 We're more worried about cops and obama's cook
Woof

Posted by: Dogs everywhere at January 02, 2015 05:55 PM (w2xGx)

71 It's for your own good..., so STFU.

Posted by: Progressives everywhere at January 02, 2015 05:56 PM (kgisg)

72 Posted by: Dogs everywhere at January 02, 2015 05:55 PM (w2xGx)


My guess is that any dog at the Palin house is so relaxed and secure that Trig can step all over them and they won't bat an eye. But any dog in Obama's White House sleeps with one eye open!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 02, 2015 05:58 PM (fL/7/)

73 Is it just me or do others find it disturbing that half of the Iowa football team has male pattern baldness?

Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2015 05:59 PM (dVmLD)

74 Yes that tidal wave of a midterm sure killed amnesty and Obamacare.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at January 02, 2015 05:59 PM (HEo6y)

75 I's like to talk with you about what the government can do for you..... over a cup of Hot Cocoa.

Posted by: Pajama Boy at January 02, 2015 05:59 PM (jucos)

76 In fact, I'll bet my left nut that if we delve deep in this poll, you'll find that the reason people rank Govt a top problem is that Congress can't get things done to move the country forward.

Posted by: Soothsayer
----------------------------

Sadly, true. "Republicans block progress."
The average take is that more government will fix things.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2015 06:00 PM (kgisg)

77 I was watching MUMR & know he's got to be on Haldon & think he's locked up.
Maetenloch or whomever kept erasing him & he'd post again.

Posted by: Carol at January 02, 2015 06:00 PM (sj3Ax)

78 http://www.digitalattackmap.com/

Posted by: Midnight Panhandler at January 02, 2015 06:01 PM (0mTra)

79 If 2016 is Bush vs Clinton, I am voting Luap Nor.

Posted by: keena at January 02, 2015 06:01 PM (bnd/4)

80 Is it just me or do others find it disturbing that half of the Iowa football team has male pattern baldness?


Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2015 05:59 PM (dVmLD)


****


Oddly enough, I was just about to make the same observation about their cheerleaders.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 02, 2015 06:02 PM (NeFrd)

81 We top men working on the problem.
Top. Men.

Posted by: Rinos, Progs, Statis, Inc. at January 02, 2015 06:02 PM (d1owD)

82 My guess is that any dog at the Palin house is so relaxed and secure that Trig can step all over them and they won't bat an eye.

But any dog in Obama's White House




knows the " lick" of the oven being turned on.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 02, 2015 06:05 PM (nfmRC)

83 "think he's locked up. "


Beginning to think the same. He's two regular and predictable with his visits, as if on a schedule.


I didn't know they gave asylum inmates internet time but I guess they get a 1/2-hour each day to use the machine.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 02, 2015 06:05 PM (LA7Cm)

84 knows the " lick" of the oven being turned on.

*click. knows the CLICK. F'n keyboard.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 02, 2015 06:06 PM (nfmRC)

85 A bright thing shines through the shit pile of this Administration.

May this distrust grow amongst our young and old to a hatred of all things gubmint (save for the military) until the pendulum swings back with tenfold momentum, smashing the nanny staters into dust, rendering public employee unions a bitter memory and freeing us once again.

Posted by: eureka! at January 02, 2015 06:06 PM (dvZET)

86
Liam Neeson...

and...

the United States of America star in...

Taken 4!


Posted by: Soothsayer at January 02, 2015 06:07 PM (haxo2)

87
What did you expect for 18 trillion?

Posted by: The US of A Goobermint at January 02, 2015 06:08 PM (d1owD)

88 It's not the amount of government per se, but the lack of skill with which it is applied.

Posted by: El Gobernadore Jeb Bush


Yes your lardness, but scientists now believe that there's only a certain amount of skill for applying government. Therefore, the larger the government, the thinner the skill gets spread. Think of the same size spandex pants on a 125 lb yoga instructor, then on a 325 lb student. It's sort of like that.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 02, 2015 06:08 PM (UVfht)

89 Portia De Rossia and Sarah Palin...
Posted by: wooga at January 02, 2015 05:50 PM (DTzy9)


Yes please, with whipped cream.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 02, 2015 06:09 PM (10ydV)

90 ok, the crack techs at Townhall have HotAir back online.

Whew! musatbean the end of year reconfiguration and back up or something.

Have you done your end of year back up yet?
Get yer terabyte external drives now through the Ace of Spades HQ Amazon store.

Support your local blogs, buy stuff. We're Americans, that's what we do!

Posted by: Midnight Panhandler at January 02, 2015 06:14 PM (0mTra)

91 Octopi wall street.

Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2015 06:14 PM (+PKPL)

92 If a bigger burrito is always better, why isn't bigger government always better? Ha! Explain that!

Oh, and give me a large diet soda, too.

Posted by: Lena Dunatethewholeham at January 02, 2015 06:17 PM (FZnQH)

93 I call BS on this.

Not the poll itself, but what it means.

People always say, spending is too high. Then ask them, well should we cut these 5 things and they say, FUCK NO!! You can't cut these things, but those other 5 things that don't affect me at all.

Same with this type of poll. In the abstract, people think govt is too big. But ask them specifically should we reduce the size of govt if it affects you, and all of a sudden it's FUCK NO, only reduce govt if it affects the other guy.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 02, 2015 06:17 PM (0LHZx)

94 Excuse me, I am busy retching over the bizarre love being shown to neo-Marxist bastard Mario Cuomo upon his death.

He was a worthless, evil human being and a lousy governor. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

The population of Hell just went up.

Posted by: Adjoran at January 02, 2015 06:17 PM (QIQ6j)

95 RE: @34, Torque..

I think what happened to Reagan is instructive. He had precious few allies once elected. He was NOT the GOP establishment choice... they basically forced him to take GHWB on as veep. He could only do so much as he was fighting against his own bench, the Donks and the MSM. Even "conservatives" in the House were not on board with the Gipper.

I think it's not a reflection on Reagan as much as a reflection on the built-in train-wreck that Washington DC is and that , institutionally, it will fight with everything it has to thwart outsiders who deem to diminish it or curtail the influence peddling that goes on there.

Bigger fish to fry with the Soviets. He nearly was assassinated early on. So much good happened, but really, he could only do so much. He was plagued by insiders leaking to the press and outright slander and ridicule. One man and a handful of loyal cabinet members can only do so much when every knife was out.

And what Bush 41 did as soon as he was elected proves TO ME, my insticts from the day are correct. ( and I was 18 when Reagan was elected and followed all this stuff close back in the day.. ) D.C. is the problem. Reagan pointed it out. Obama proves the point. Hopefully, it is sinking in like criticism never will. Hopefully, we'll emerge from this administration intact and emboldened to fix the problem(s) of an out of control Federal Leviathan.

Posted by: Yip at January 02, 2015 06:19 PM (84SRe)

96 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Choice
Clinic think President Obama is doing a great job. Bush was the worst President ever and probably worst since Nixon during Vietnam. Bush was a draft dodger in Vietnam because daddy protected him. We are proud to have a president of color that is fair to all peoples of all colors.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 02, 2015 06:20 PM (Sd++4)

97 And a lot of the people who say govt is a problem, say it's a problem because govt isn't doing enough. Much like how a substantial % of people who disapprove of Obamacare, disapprove because govt only controls 80% of health care instead of 100%

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 02, 2015 06:20 PM (0LHZx)

98 If a bigger burrito is always better, why isn't bigger government always better? Ha! Explain that!

Oh, and give me a large diet soda, too.


Posted by: Lena Dunatethewholeham


Well, your sluttiness, think of it this way. What happens when you eat a bigger burrito? Right, you shit more.

Government is like a digestive tract, the more resources we shovel into it, the more shit comes out. Not free shit, just shit.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 02, 2015 06:22 PM (UVfht)

99 Propane tank truck in Arlington, Tx still burning.
Hank Hill hardest hit.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 02, 2015 06:23 PM (nfmRC)

100
Portia De Rossia and Sarah Palin...
Posted by: wooga




Temba, his legs wide.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 02, 2015 06:24 PM (kdS6q)

101 #15, Seamus - outstanding! Not pithy and catchy, obviously, but catches the essence of the thing. Infotainvernment.

Leeeetle problem here, though, my friendsh. America as conceived and as imperfectly yet gloriously realized for generations, requires Americans. To mean the historically distintive mindset and base values (WRT guvamin, self reliance, liberty, etc.) that made America possible (not citizenship per se).

Of course it varies wildly across the land, but in the dominant coasts and urban areas, I would say the key distinctive American mindset elements are rarely seen any more.

There is simply no more default common sense, or sense of restraint or humility, or respect for others' freedom, nor, increasingly any real understanding of basic economics. It's all bigotry, self-dealing, regulatory capture and rent-seeking (out of control now, obviously). Not by all, but by enough that it's about over. A unionized firefighter, a 3rd generation welfare cheat, a pathetic "teacher" produced by the country's insanely degraded educ. establishment, a wealthy "green" entrepreneur/Dem donor, a well-meaning but NPR-stupid "educated" coastal clueless member whose entire (entire) political outlook is built on myth and resentment and baseless self-righteousness - that's a coalition I don't see being overcome.

You might say they actually have "different" "politics" - but no really, not in a bottom-line sense they don't. Not any more. That's once consequence of govt. explosion far out of its historic limits.

Minor factor, but add in the complacent and not very savvy element that has the right outlook and mindset, but cannot recognize the severity of the problem, and is additionally crippled by tribal affiliation/sports fan attachment (GOP "loyalists" and apologists). People who don't understand politics is a means to an end, not an end in itself (as it is for prosperous libs who are rarely directly affected by the disasters they inflict on the country). We have a good representation of those right here in the comments sections.

Personnel is policy in the fed guvamint, and populace is politics. I see a problem with the populace.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2015 06:27 PM (afQnV)

102 Blanco for the anatomy lesson!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 02, 2015 06:27 PM (A4oX7)

103 Mostly, I object to Obama because he steps on dogs-


to make Indonesian Dog Wine.


The 2014 version of White House indonesian Dog Wine is a red-

with the playful insouciance of poodle combined with the sturdy oaky character of the English Bulldog.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 02, 2015 06:28 PM (KBvAm)

104 We still have a long way to go before we are displeased enough to have another 'founding'. Know what I mean?

Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2015 06:29 PM (go5uR)

105 I think government should be far smaller than it is. But, every time we say this, government workers probably read it as "We want you to lose your job."


Posted by: Null at January 02, 2015 06:29 PM (xjpRj)

106
Our message for 2015? The problem of Big Government isn't that it's big, it's that it's not being properly managed.

Preferably by Harvard MBAs from haut monde families with a history of "public service", IYKWIM.

Posted by: The Republicans - The Church of Latter-Day Democrats

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 02, 2015 06:30 PM (kdS6q)

107 Don't tax you. Don't tax me. That that butthead behind the tree.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 02, 2015 06:31 PM (W5DcG)

108 Tax

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 02, 2015 06:32 PM (W5DcG)

109 Blanco for the anatomy lesson!

Whenever the subject of government comes up, I always try to use the least appealing imagery that comes to mind. It was difficult to think of something less appealing than Ms. Dumham, so I went with the gut. Literally.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 02, 2015 06:33 PM (UVfht)

110 It's hard for me to take Gallup polls seriously since Barky's DOJ butt-reamed them and made an example of them.

If you click the link, you see that this was a Gallup poll.

Posted by: wheatie at January 02, 2015 06:33 PM (943iJ)

111 I feel like the government has locked me in a closet and I really, really have to go. I don't have alcohol and the drugged out psycho next to me has a skank tattoo.

And calling Boehner's number will only bring embarrassment and shame.

This is how the government makes me feel.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 02, 2015 06:34 PM (A98Xu)

112 Isn't Government the same organization that brought us the Postal Service, VA Healthcare and the IRS?


Yeh...we need more of that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 02, 2015 06:35 PM (Kr/1Z)

113 look at harry reids face


this is your face on government

Posted by: ThunderB at January 02, 2015 06:35 PM (zOTsN)

114 Funny, I lost several government jobs because, uh, they were no longer needed (one case that decision was taken externally, the other time I made it). Probably a freakish, alien outlier tail-of-the-bell-curve thing, but I actually saw public service as, well, public service. Not "my" job.

That was not an unusual thing a while back. Still exists in the military and a few other sectors. But generally? Uh uh.

Gov. Walker has been an incredible success at being a real, good, governor - improving his state on almost every front, in ways that governors can (OK, he is basically eliminating artificial disastrous crap that was erected by others, but still). Gov. Kasich did OK with many aspects of improving the situation in Ohio early in his first term.

What was the Iraqi oil-filled-moat surrounded by mines backed up by Scuds with VX gas that neither one could cross or even touch (well, Kasich did, and got burned)? Right. Public sector union parasitism when it wears a "public safety" uniform.

Given not-unreasonable (tactially) slippery slope thinking, it's really the same problem as teacher union or prison guard union parasitism, i.e. tackling them will require all of them, not just some of them (Walker got lucky in a way, you'd never pull of his tactic in CA or NY, for example).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2015 06:37 PM (afQnV)

115 Rhomboid,
That was great.

Posted by: Carol at January 02, 2015 06:38 PM (sj3Ax)

116 105 I think government should be far smaller than it is. But, every time we say this, government workers probably read it as "We want you to lose your job."

Posted by: Null at January 02, 2015 06:29 PM (xjpRj)

----------

Term Limits for all government bureaucrat jobs.

People call for term limits for elected officials.
But I would prefer term limits for bureaucrats...10 years, and you're out...and no pensions.

Posted by: wheatie at January 02, 2015 06:38 PM (943iJ)

117 Ghost town tonight huh? Anyone have an update on Cap'n Whitebread?

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 02, 2015 06:38 PM (jucos)

118 Has this been posted?

Police chief 'accidentally' shoots wife...., twice.

http://tinyurl.com/pe5pyp7

BANG!
"Oops..., sorry honey."
BANG!
"Oh..., sorry, again."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2015 06:39 PM (kgisg)

119 I'm going to come to the defense of the Postal Service. First they are actually authorized in the Constitution (Art 1 Sect and they mostly do their job pretty well...well enough, in fact, that they are the final leg of some of the UPS and FedEx deliveries. They would actually be making money if it wasn't for the unfunded pension liability...of the rest of the US.gov (IIRC they would be able to fund their own pensions out of revenues but the treasury takes some of what they earn to fund other programs...big surprise there). They get a bad rap, but the USPS and the US Military are two things that actually work pretty well, all things considered.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 02, 2015 06:40 PM (6fyGz)

120 I'm from the government and I'm here to help

Posted by: Ronaldo Magnus at January 02, 2015 06:41 PM (LoIJo)

121 93 I call BS on this.

Not the poll itself, but what it means.

People always say, spending is too high. Then ask them, well should we cut these 5 things and they say, FUCK NO!! You can't cut these things, but those other 5 things that don't affect me at all.

Same with this type of poll. In the abstract, people think govt is too big. But ask them specifically should we reduce the size of govt if it affects you, and all of a sudden it's FUCK NO, only reduce govt if it affects the other guy.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 02, 2015 06:17 PM (0LHZx)

97 And a lot of the people who say govt is a problem, say it's a problem because govt isn't doing enough. Much like how a substantial % of people who disapprove of Obamacare, disapprove because govt only controls 80% of health care instead of 100%
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 02, 2015 06:20 PM (0LHZx)



Sadly, I think you are correct. I have believed from the beginning that Obama's economic policies were deliberately crafted to force as many people as possible to become dependent on the government.

Once they get food stamps and extended unemployment benefits and despair of ever finding a decent job again, they will never vote to cut those benefits.

Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2015 06:41 PM (sdi6R)

122 And WTF with "bonuses" for govt. workers? What the hell? You want a bonus, get into a real business sector where bonuses are earned based on something concrete. Your "bonus" as a public servant, beyond the psychic income of service, is security and stability - and for a long time now, generous benefits.

I remember several of us scoffing, more or less, at some award that was available to us in an overseas war gig. We weren't ungracious about the offer, but literally couldn't believe such awards were being offered to us when the guys kicking in doors looking for trouble were doing the hard work. We felt excited and lucky to be involved in something important.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2015 06:41 PM (afQnV)

123 You ain't seen nothin' yet!

Posted by: Barack Obama, fundamental transformer at January 02, 2015 06:42 PM (0Ew3K)

124 Generally, I've been pleased with the USPS. Price is cheap. Drop something in the mail, 3 days later it's received.

I keep thinking that junk is a huge overhead, however. I'm inclined, without study, to raise bulk rates.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2015 06:42 PM (kgisg)

125 Rhomboid,
I meant your #101.

Posted by: Carol at January 02, 2015 06:42 PM (sj3Ax)

126 People call for term limits for elected officials.
But I would prefer term limits for bureaucrats...10 years, and you're out...and no pensions.
Posted by: wheatie at January 02, 2015 06:38 PM (943iJ)
^^THIS^^
Politicians come and go, but the bureaucracy is forever. I know FAR TOO many gov employees. Easy street with fat salaries and bloated tax payer funded pensions. Most of them don't even need to report to work. I think they call it telecommuting. It's all bullshit. The only ones who do anything that i can see are the Secret Service guys in my hood.

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 02, 2015 06:42 PM (jucos)

127
can we skip this part and just get the part where we get to give ol' Harry a beating?


Posted by: jc at January 02, 2015 05:31 PM (i8c5b)


New Years Resolution... Always ask the boy if he takes tae kwon do

Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast at January 02, 2015 06:43 PM (LoIJo)

128
I'm watching, teej !!

Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 06:44 PM (dFi94)

129 Moar government means moar queers. And I for one don't see a problem with that. So all you wing nutz need to go find a closet and smoke some crack with a skank who is incontinent.

Posted by: Folsom St. queer at January 02, 2015 06:45 PM (Moh0M)

130 Harry beat himself up yesterday.

Posted by: Carol at January 02, 2015 06:45 PM (sj3Ax)

131 New Years Resolution... Always ask boy if he has an Uncle Vinny or Carmine

Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast at January 02, 2015 06:45 PM (LoIJo)

132 I blame John Boehner. He is a dull, selfish, and lazy cocksucker that only cares about expanding the governments control over our lives.

It's the law of the land.

Well, fuck you.

A pox on him and his family.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility hates big government at January 02, 2015 06:45 PM (XzRw1)

133 GGE, gotta out myself on that one, too. OK, the Post Office is gonna have the pathologies of a giant public sector organization - but in my lifetime experience, it's always performed pretty well for me. Cannot recall a problem with the USPS or its people, ever.

I remember sort of not getting the stand-by Post Office jokes common among stand-up comedians back in the 70s/80s. They were funny given the premise, which was a well-understood one - but the premise was basically false, in my experience.

Anyway, minor point. Let's just try to agree that the Post Office is not exactly the problem with the expansions of govt. and the diminution of liberty and the private sector over the last few decades .....

Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2015 06:46 PM (afQnV)

134 I say give Dingy Harry a morphine drip. For the pain.

Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2015 06:46 PM (9vrWU)

135 Term Limits for all government bureaucrat jobs.



People call for term limits for elected officials.

But I would prefer term limits for bureaucrats...10 years, and you're out...and no pensions.



Posted by: wheatie at January 02, 2015 06:38 PM (943iJ)



The bureaucrats used to get switched out regularly (with every new administration) until the Pendleton Act of 1883.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 02, 2015 06:46 PM (6fyGz)

136 Posted by: Thin veneer of civility hates big government at January 02, 2015 06:45 PM (XzRw1)

-----

Your ideas intrigue me, do you have a newsletter?

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 02, 2015 06:47 PM (A98Xu)

137 I blame John Boehner. He is a dull, selfish, and lazy cocksucker that only cares about expanding the governments control over our lives.


Posted by: Thin veneer of civility

Boehner has always been along for the ride for the money from big donors. He got in trouble with the Republican leadership and the media some 20 years ago for handing out Tobacco PAC money (checks) to Reps on the floor of the House.

Yes, he was that dumb.

And now, he's the Speaker.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... after dark at January 02, 2015 06:50 PM (+1T7c)

138 Oh, and GGE, gotta talk trains with you some times (model kind). Have an O-scale set from my childhood that I'm restoring (having restored, once car at a time). In very good shape. Have a basic set-up around the tree at Christmas now. Saw in a late night thread that you've got some serious model train stuff going on.

Thing is, this year the system works, but weakly (locomotive moves at half of normal full speed). Not sure if it's the track, or maybe the transformer is failing (guy checked it 2 years ago and said it was fine). All this stuff is vintage 50s and 60s.

Gotta go reload some 45ACP for tomorrow's fun action pistol match.

See y'alls later this evening.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2015 06:50 PM (afQnV)

139 135
The bureaucrats used to get switched out regularly (with every new administration) until the Pendleton Act of 1883.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 02, 2015 06:46 PM (6fyGz)



The civil service was created in response to the rampant cronyism that existed before, but I think we can see now that the cure was worse than the disease. At least those old crony hacks didn't have lifetime employment.

Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2015 06:51 PM (sdi6R)

140 UCLA scores first

Go Kansas State!

Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 06:51 PM (dFi94)

141 Anyway, minor point. Let's just try to agree that
the Post Office is not exactly the problem with the expansions of govt.
and the diminution of liberty and the private sector over the last few
decades .....

Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2015 06:46 PM (afQnV)


Oh, the USPS has expanded exponentially, too, but the biggest problem that I have seen is the expansion of "czars" and such, and the way the EPA, et al, create law without legislation (yes, it's legal, sort of, for varying degrees of legal, but legal doesn't mean right). And why, exactly, does any agency outside the FBI need armed agents? Anything requiring law enforcement should be the bailiwick of the FBI IMO.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 02, 2015 06:51 PM (6fyGz)

142 "They get a bad rap, but the USPS and the US Military are two things that actually work pretty well, all things considered."

Perhaps it's just because our local USPS service is the worse that I have ever experienced in this country that I look at the USPS with a jaded eye.
Packages lost, misrouted, and marked as delivered two days before they actually arrive a our house.

A paycheck that was returned to an employer, stamped as "Vacant" by the USPS causes me issues.

A letter carrier that had to be directed to wear a uniform, and stop swearing constantly on his phone headset while walking the neighborhood in the presence of children helps to contribute to that feeling.

When my Amazon shipments go Smartpost, and USPS does the final mile, it goes pear shaped every time.

In out particular community of 1777 homes, USPS is universally agreed to suck.

Your mileage may vary.


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 02, 2015 06:53 PM (Kr/1Z)

143 Yeah, I agree with GGE...the Post Office does work pretty good.

I think the USPS should go to 24/7 service, though.
Instead of cutting back on service...they should expand it.

That would give them an edge over UPS and FedEx.
And they're almost there already...there are 24 hour locations in a lot of big cities.

Posted by: wheatie at January 02, 2015 06:54 PM (943iJ)

144 I think government should be far smaller than it is. But, every time we say this, government workers probably read it as "We want you to lose your job."

That's what I mean anyway.

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 02, 2015 06:54 PM (rwI+c)

145 Oh, and GGE, gotta talk trains with you some times
(model kind). Have an O-scale set from my childhood that I'm restoring
(having restored, once car at a time). In very good shape. Have a basic
set-up around the tree at Christmas now. Saw in a late night thread that
you've got some serious model train stuff going on.



Thing is, this year the system works, but weakly (locomotive moves
at half of normal full speed). Not sure if it's the track, or maybe the
transformer is failing (guy checked it 2 years ago and said it was
fine). All this stuff is vintage 50s and 60s.



Gotta go reload some 45ACP for tomorrow's fun action pistol match.



See y'alls later this evening.



Posted by: rhomboid at January 02, 2015 06:50 PM (afQnV)



Sa-weet! I've just gotten into Z scale, sort of accidentally. As long as the track voltage reaches peak, everything might just need a really good cleaning.

I need to load some .45, too...just to do it. You can never be too rich, too thin (actually that one is wrong) or have too much ammo.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 02, 2015 06:54 PM (6fyGz)

146 In out particular community of 1777 homes, USPS is universally agreed to suck.



Your mileage may vary.







Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 02, 2015 06:53 PM (Kr/1Z)



Sounds like your local office is way overdue for a visit from whatever the Post Office uses for IG.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 02, 2015 06:57 PM (6fyGz)

147 Hi grammie!
Keep pullin' for em. Not a good start but as we like to say around here...
Keep calm and Snyder on.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at January 02, 2015 06:58 PM (XHihg)

148
That's what I mean anyway.


co-signed

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 02, 2015 06:59 PM (haxo2)

149 I say give Dingy Harry a morphine drip. For the pain.
Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2015 06:46 PM (9vrWU)


Only if administered Chinese water torture style.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 02, 2015 06:59 PM (W5DcG)

150 I'm in the country. Mail is RFD. I wouldn't care if they only delivered 3 times a week. Hardly ever go to a post office. When I do they usually piss me off.

Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2015 06:59 PM (9vrWU)

151 Ghost town tonight huh? Anyone have an update on Cap'n Whitebread?

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 02, 2015 06:38 PM
(jucos)


Hello, Horde.

Please accept my apologies. Depression sucks, because it messes with your brain and you sometimes say or do things that, in retrospect, are not smart.

My daughter talked me off the proverbial ledge. I am sure my recent surgery has a lot to do with it.


Posted by: Captain Whitebread on patrol at January 02, 2015 05:12 PM (Hv4rq)

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 02, 2015 07:00 PM (GDulk)

152 Where can I obtain this? http://is.gd/vsSTI3

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 02, 2015 07:01 PM (rwI+c)

153 Posted by: Captain Whitebread on patrol at January 02, 2015 05:12 PM (Hv4rq)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 02, 2015 07:00 PM (GDulk)




Thank God.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 07:01 PM (dFi94)

154 Where can I obtain this? http://is.gd/vsSTI3

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 02, 2015 07:01 PM (rwI+c)



awesome.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 02, 2015 07:02 PM (6fyGz)

155 These new laws are needed:
1. Congress-Max 5 terms and death sentence if hired as bureaucrat or return to D.C in any capacity.
2. Senate-Max 2 terms and death sentence if hired as bureaucrat or return to D.C. in any capacity.
3. Bureaucrat- 2 years and death sentence if caught returning to D.C. in any position.
4. Mandatory military service for any elective office.
Too harsh?

Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2015 07:03 PM (go5uR)

156 Depression sucks, because it messes with your brain




Yes it does.

Yes it does.

Prayers for comfort and clarity and peace of mind.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 07:03 PM (dFi94)

157 OT, but I just read the sidebar article about the guy who is trying to build a warp drive engine in his garage.

I don't know enough physics to have an opinion about his chances, but man, wouldn't it be great if he can pull it off?

112 years ago, a couple of bicycle mechanics achieved controlled heavier-than-air flight, at a time when many highly educated experts said it was impossible, or at the very least would never be practical.

Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2015 07:03 PM (sdi6R)

158 err ... asking for a friend

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 02, 2015 07:03 PM (rwI+c)

159 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 02, 2015 06:53 PM (Kr/1Z)

The office here is very poor as well. Frequent messages on the neighborhood's FB page noting yet another delivery failure. I blame unionization, as the frequent "need" for overtime and other issues certainly seem typical of a union workplace.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 02, 2015 07:03 PM (GDulk)

160 Okay, now I can pile on- re: Harry Reid, I think we could come up with a line of exercise equipment designed especially for politicians like him. I'm thinking:


1. Treadmaul

2. Pummel horse

3. Exercise stompoline

4. Stairstomper

5. ???

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 02, 2015 07:08 PM (NeFrd)

161 Treadmaul and Pummel horse are good.

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 02, 2015 07:11 PM (rwI+c)

162 5. PROFIT!!

Posted by: L, elle at January 02, 2015 07:11 PM (2x3L+)

163 6. CrossbowFlex. Could get Ted Nugent for an endorsement deal.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at January 02, 2015 07:13 PM (V70Ne)

164 Glad to hear all is well with Whitebread...

Posted by: JDub (was BunkerintheBurbs) at January 02, 2015 07:14 PM (X3xYu)

165 OT, but I just read the sidebar article about the guy who is trying to build a warp drive engine in his garage.


Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2015 07:03 PM (sdi6R)


In Omaha, of all places, not far from the future birthplace of James T Kirk (relatively speaking).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 02, 2015 07:14 PM (6fyGz)

166 I once took a dump in the janitor's closet at the gym.

Posted by: Peddy Reid at January 02, 2015 07:15 PM (Dwehj)

167
You should be thanking me.

Posted by: Dr. Chef, Lawyer, Indian Chief Hussein at January 02, 2015 07:16 PM (wAQA5)

168 I feel really sad that Ellie May is gone from this earth. What a sweetie she was.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 07:16 PM (dFi94)

169 If you're here Carol, yes I'm still "working" at the school. The kids have been on break so I check in VERY sporadically when I can. Slaving on three kids is hard when they are home ALL day!!

Posted by: lindafell in her own time zone at January 02, 2015 07:16 PM (LbPGR)

170 155... 4. Mandatory military service for any elective office.

Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2015 07:03 PM (go5uR)

---------

This one is not too harsh, IMO.

Jim Bridenstine, for example, is a Vet....he's mentioned in the sidebar, for proclaiming that he won't vote for Boehner.

Rick Perry is a Vet, too.
He's the only one in the lineup of potential 2016 candidates who is a Vet.

We would still get some assholes, though...as we've seen with John McCain.

Posted by: wheatie at January 02, 2015 07:17 PM (943iJ)

171 You are correct, sir.

No you're both wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/ The-Liberty-Amendments-Restoring- American/dp/1451606273

Posted by: DaveA at January 02, 2015 07:18 PM (DL2i+)

172 170 155... 4. Mandatory military service for any elective office.



Which would exclude any disabled person, such as the new Governor of Texas.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 07:19 PM (dFi94)

173 Getting ready to watch the Knicks play the Pistons?

I guess somebody has to "win" ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2015 07:19 PM (nzKvP)

174 Exercise accident? Oh right, he had another stroke and fell off the treadmill.

Posted by: wth at January 02, 2015 07:19 PM (wAQA5)

175 Mandatory military service for any elective office.



Which would exclude any disabled person, such as the new Governor of Texas.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 07:19 PM (dFi94)

Not to mention most vimen!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2015 07:21 PM (nzKvP)

176
Not looking good, teej. Still a whole lot of time though.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 07:22 PM (dFi94)

177
I once took a dump in the janitor's closet at the gym.
Posted by: Peddy Reid
.......................
How thoughtful of you to get out of the hallway first.

Posted by: EPA employee at January 02, 2015 07:23 PM (wAQA5)

178
Not to mention most vimen!



Most women politicians ought to be excluded, just because. There are some awesome exceptions, of course.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 07:24 PM (dFi94)

179 Jesus, just looking at Clyde's outfit tonight and I am a tad dizzy.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2015 07:24 PM (nzKvP)

180 I have something in my something tray that wants to install Intel Rapid Storage Technology. I don't know what that is. Think I will ignore it.

Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2015 07:25 PM (9vrWU)

181 Come on everyone we know the only reason that Gubernet is our biggest concern is that El Jefe Obama has not communicated his plans properly to us Sheeple. It's knot his fault dat weez 2 stoopid!

Posted by: MarkyMark at January 02, 2015 07:25 PM (tza6L)

182 OT, but I just read the sidebar article about the guy who is trying to build a warp drive engine in his garage.


Sounds like a good way to get off planet when they decide to demolish Earth for an intergalactic highway.

Posted by: CM at January 02, 2015 07:25 PM (0NdlF)

183 grammie winger for president.

Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2015 07:26 PM (9vrWU)

184 183 grammie winger for president.
Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2015 07:26 PM (9vrWU)



Closet. Skeletons. Full of 'em

Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 07:27 PM (dFi94)

185 Closet. Skeletons. Full of 'em

That's why you need a crawlspace.

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 02, 2015 07:27 PM (rwI+c)

186 nood

Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2015 07:28 PM (9vrWU)

187 185 Closet. Skeletons. Full of 'em

That's why you need a crawlspace.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 02, 2015 07:27 PM (rwI+c)


Posted by: grammie winger at January 02, 2015 07:29 PM (dFi94)

188 Scamper little corgis, scamper.

Don't be Willowed

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 02, 2015 07:29 PM (A4oX7)

189 Maetenloch or whomever kept erasing him & he'd post again.
Posted by: Carol at January 02, 2015 06:00 PM (sj3Ax)

MUMR's access is limited and regular, but he also has access to multiple ISPs.

MUMR doesn't respond or engage, and he always did before the banning. I think his posts are written in advance and sent at intervals by some sort of program bot. While we enjoy it when ace changes his posts, I don't think MUMR ever knows the difference.

Posted by: Meremortal at January 02, 2015 07:32 PM (1Y+hH)

190 but man, wouldn't it be great if he can pull it off?

Sure, til the universe implodes.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 02, 2015 07:34 PM (DL2i+)

191 the biggest mistake the right ever did was NOT go all out to expose, dismantle, and utterly destroy the ideology of socialism / communism. instead, post Reagan, when the wall came down, when eastern europe was freed, we just thought the battle against this evil, anti-human ideology was won. well, in the process the leftist anarcho/communist academics regrouped and took over the schools, and every institution that they could. now they have spent the past 30 years infecting the young with this ideology, and it has really taken its toll. you now see young people that don't believe in capitalism, hard work, and the virtue of our system. instead, these young people want hand outs, have bought the altruistic lie, and think that we need to conduct a war on poverty - again (they never learned about the failed war on poverty in school). these kids also think white people invented slavery, and that this is the most evil country on earth. it will another 30 or 40 years to undo this damage, if the country survives. we made a HUGE mistake in not saying NEVER AGAIN and exposing communism for what it was. we should have hammered that home. communism has killed more people than the nazis ever did. where are the victims of communism memorials? where are the victims of communism museums? where? no where, and they are back AGAIN.

Posted by: Mistress NOpe at January 02, 2015 11:03 PM (2/oBD)

192 yeah and war and terrorism has fallen to the cellar how sad is that ?

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