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Overnight Open Thread (12-28-2014)
"Angelina Jolie's entire family recently stepped out on the red carpet to support their mother's new movie, Unbroken. The couple's oldest biological child, who was assigned female at birth, joined brothers Maddox and Pax wearing sharp suits and short haircuts."
"I think you miss one very important point. He has had Al Sharpton to the White House 80, 85 times. Often when he's talking about police issues he has Al Sharpton sitting next to him. Have a poster boy for hating the police, it's Al Sharpton. You make Al Sharpton a close adviser, you're going to turn the police in America against you. You're going to tell the police in America we don't understand you. I saw this man help cause riots in New York; I've heard his anti-police invective first-hand. To have a man who hasn't paid $4 million in taxes, have a man who's spent his career helping to create riots and phony stories about police, to have that man sitting next to you speaks volumes. You know, actions speak louder than words. You put Al Sharpton next to you, you just told everyone you're against the police."
-- Rudy Giuliani on Face the Nation
More: Why Al Sharpton Should be Fired From MSNBC - But Never Will Be and How Al Sharpton Became Obama's Go-To Man on Race
And Bookworm explains why Holding Sharpton et al. accountable for the killings of Ramos and Liu is not the same as the Left's freak-out over Palin's web site in 2011.
Jomah, a 17-year-old Syrian who joined Islamic State last year, sat in a circle of trainees for a lesson in beheading, a course taught to boys as young as 8.Teachers brought in three frightened Syrian soldiers, who were jeered and forced to their knees. "It was like learning to chop an onion," Jomah said. "You grab him by the forehead and then slowly slice across the neck."
A teacher asked for volunteers and said, "Those who behead the infidels will receive gifts from God," recalled Jomah, who didn't want his full name revealed. The youngest boys shot up their hands and several were chosen to participate. Afterward, the teachers ordered the students to pass around the severed heads.
-- From a story on the Danish city of Aarhus' cuddly attitude towards returning jihadis.
"I don't know that a crime has occurred, but a pile of trash in the middle of the street? The Washington Post is making a call over this?"
-- Ferguson Police Department's public relations officer in response to a report that someone ran over a Michael Brown 'memorial' in the street.
The B-movie studio American International Pictures (AIP) hired Miliius as a writer. His first script was a remake of the Dirty Dozen called The Devil's Eight (1969)-eight, because AIP couldn't afford 12 actors. Next George Hamilton asked him to script a biopic of daredevil Evel Kenievel (1971). The subject of compensation arose. What do you want? Hamilton asked. Milius answered: "I want girls, gold, and guns."...It is the mid-1980s. There is a party at the house of screenwriter Paul Schrader. Milius, who wrote Dirty Harry and Apocalypse Now and directed Conan the Barbarian and Red Dawn, is there when Pauline Kael arrives. Kael is the liberal New Yorker film critic. To her, a Milius film is only slightly better than a slime mold.
Milius has had some wine. He has an intermediary tell Kael that he would like a "conference" with her. A message comes back: Kael wants to know if Milius, who in meetings with executives was fond of displaying pistols, is armed.
"Tell her I'm not armed," Milius says. "But I myself am a weapon."
-- From a profile of John Milius by Matthew Continetti
Why the NYPD Has Been Soft on Protesters Thus Far: Lawfare
Okay this isn't the dumbest thing Tyson has ever said since the finger-derived decimal system does influence how we do things e.g. Top 10 lists, 100 best whatever, etc. But it turns out he's wrong on the history which could have been easily checked with a Google search . Which is really the problem with Tyson - he's not dumb but he is lazy and used to coasting on his reputation of being smart. But smart is no replacement for actual specific knowledge.
Newborn Baby Named Jim Beam By His Dad Jack Daniels
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Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
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The group. Never heard of it.
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 10:30 PM (OBxdH)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 28, 2014 10:30 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2014 10:31 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 10:32 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2014 10:33 PM (KCxzN)
"Rudy Giuliani on Face the Nation"
And then there's his day job:
screen.yahoo.com/old-glory-insurance-ad-000000469.html
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 28, 2014 10:34 PM (kdS6q)
"Tell her I'm not armed," Milius says. "But I myself am a weapon."
-- From a profile of John Milius by Matthew Continetti
Filed under "Masterful Quotes".
Posted by: Arbalest at December 28, 2014 10:34 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: MikeH at December 28, 2014 10:34 PM (4OZqu)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:35 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2014 10:35 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:35 PM (9BRsg)
another Chaz Bono in the making
Posted by: MikeH at December 28, 2014 10:35 PM (4OZqu)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2014 10:36 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:36 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2014 10:37 PM (tBSrv)
IIRC, she had a double mastectomy despite not having cancer.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 28, 2014 10:37 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2014 10:37 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2014 10:38 PM (fWLrt)
She had a super-high probability of getting it and the resources to have the very best reconstruction possible.
I won't question her doing that.
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:38 PM (9BRsg)
Congrats/commiserations to the top 10s. ....
I am 9n the right side of the ewok line
Posted by: Sven10077 at December 28, 2014 10:39 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2014 10:38 PM (fWLrt)
Yep, when the HNS Velos (D-16), while participating in a NATO exercise and in order to protest against the dictatorship in Greece, anchored at Fiumicino, Italy, refusing to return to Greece led to much fapping
Posted by: MikeH at December 28, 2014 10:40 PM (4OZqu)
as brevity is the soul of Wit, he was convinced to condense them to 10--despite, not because of, infringing on the Other Ten
Posted by: riding the tiger, chasing the dragon at December 28, 2014 10:40 PM (8CdUx)
She had a super-high probability of getting it and the resources to have the very best reconstruction possible.
I won't question her doing that.
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:38 PM (9BRsg)
Plus her mother and an aunt died from breast cancer and she had the genetic marker for the same kind of cancer. So I think she did the smart thing.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 10:40 PM (wqVD1)
osobkaowex
ojaqegazenuo
waxedeeyisabo
Who? Wut? Are these even regular commenters? Lurkers maybe? I guess I need to spend more time reading comments.
Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2014 10:40 PM (2x3L+)
http://tinyurl.com/nrln2v7
(yeah, you'll have to scroll way down)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (nL0sw)
I hate pop culture. Assigned female means your a female. The post modern world sucks.
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (PQUoE)
Posted by: fluffy at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: riding the tiger, chasing the dragon at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (8CdUx)
Congress passed twelve amendments as part of the Bill of rights.
Eleven of them were adopted.
Tyson is historically ignorant.
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (/YkzI)
http://tinyurl.com/nrln2v7
(yeah, you'll have to scroll way down)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (nL0sw)
Toga! Toga! Toga!
Posted by: MikeH at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (4OZqu)
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2014 10:42 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: A B at December 28, 2014 10:42 PM (lSuTK)
Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 10:42 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 28, 2014 10:42 PM (spNrX)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (/YkzI)
Tyson is just ignorant
Posted by: MikeH at December 28, 2014 10:43 PM (4OZqu)
http://tinyurl.com/nrln2v7
(yeah, you'll have to scroll way down)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (nL0sw)
Well we'll still take it even if it does have the reek of consolation about it.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 10:43 PM (wqVD1)
genetic marker for the same kind of cancer. So I think she did the smart
thing.
---
I wonder if there's *any* chance that the fact that Jolie's biological daughter might have the gene too has contributed to this encouragement toward her being a boy.
Just grasping at straws here, but I just can't see how a toddler sexual identity becomes a "thing," absent some biological/physiological reason that she's sexually dimorphic.
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:44 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2014 10:44 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 10:44 PM (PQUoE)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 10:44 PM (PQUoE)
I hate pop culture. Assigned female means your a female. The post modern world sucks.
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (PQUoE)
Doctors do not "assign gender", they just recognize the obvious.
More on that: http://bit.ly/1xb4UvH
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2014 10:44 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (/YkzI)
Tyson is just ignorant
Posted by: MikeH
---------------
Instead of showing his ignorance with history and religion, he should just stick with science.
Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2014 10:45 PM (fWLrt)
Top 10 Sock puppets:
osobkaowex
ojaqegazenuo
waxedeeyisabo
Who? Wut? Are these even regular commenters? Lurkers maybe? I guess I need to spend more time reading comments.
Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2014 10:40 PM (2x3L+)
All three are probably RMUM, or whatever it is.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2014 10:45 PM (T1005)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 10:45 PM (PQUoE)
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 10:45 PM (BXkFh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 28, 2014 10:45 PM (spNrX)
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2014 10:44 PM (tBSrv)
******
Well, we refer to underwear as a "pair", so.....
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 10:45 PM (o/3Hk)
Stop by your local music store that rents instruments to schools for their bands. They can tell you about violins/violas. They can keep you from throwing money away.
/Last thread...
Posted by: ChrisP at December 28, 2014 10:45 PM (9hZCZ)
Posted by: The Oppressing Hat at December 28, 2014 10:46 PM (/YkzI)
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And you can thank the Patriarchy for that one.
Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2014 10:46 PM (fWLrt)
Posted by: PaleRider -, LF rescue is #8. Thanks all at December 28, 2014 10:46 PM (7w/kf)
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And you can thank the Patriarchy for that one.
Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2014 10:46 PM (fWLrt)
or the Pair-triarchy
Posted by: MikeH at December 28, 2014 10:47 PM (4OZqu)
Sure we do, she's eight years without parental guidance.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 10:47 PM (BXkFh)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 10:45 PM
Whoa, dude. You've just blown my mind. *bong hit*... *ponders universe*
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2014 10:47 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 10:47 PM (1XZj7)
I'm more and more convinced that NdGT is an affirmative action hire.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 28, 2014 10:47 PM (znT2j)
Top 10 Sock puppets: osobkaowex
Who? Wut? Are these even regular commenters? Lurkers maybe?
Posted by: L, elle
Spambot with radomized usernames. Comments get killed, but still show in the rankings.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 28, 2014 10:48 PM (kdS6q)
Both cookware and pizza is involved...
http://bit.ly/1xb5466
Posted by: The Pan-Hat at December 28, 2014 10:48 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:48 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2014 10:46 PM (fWLrt)
*****
Damnit! I knew that was a Patriarchical conspiracy!
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 10:48 PM (xrURQ)
It's her decision, but not what I would've done in her situation. I don't want any surgery unless it can't be avoided.
Besides, with my luck, I'd get cancer somewhere else.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 28, 2014 10:49 PM (0HooB)
I'm more and more convinced that NdGT is an affirmative action hire.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 28, 2014 10:47 PM (znT2j)
Yea, it's a bummer that "Any Women Must Get A Sammich When Asked By A Man" Amendment didn't make it...
Posted by: MikeH at December 28, 2014 10:49 PM (4OZqu)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at December 28, 2014 10:50 PM (uSAVP)
Posted by: PaleRider -, LF rescue is #8. Thanks all at December 28, 2014 10:46 PM (7w/kf)
Remember that the poor kid lives in Lefty Looney Land.
She'll be pressured to go full reverse-trap and then full transsexual.
Posted by: The Cis-Hat at December 28, 2014 10:50 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:50 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 28, 2014 10:50 PM (spNrX)
Posted by: MikeH
-----------------------
It was actually "Get an Ale" and Ben Franklin sponsored it.
Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2014 10:50 PM (fWLrt)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 10:50 PM (PQUoE)
I'm more and more convinced that NdGT is an affirmative action hire.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 28, 2014 10:47 PM (znT2j)
Actually eleven made it.
Posted by: The Hat of Rights at December 28, 2014 10:50 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:48 PM
Oh. My. God. That's right. The universe is indeed a strange and confusing place...
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2014 10:51 PM (tBSrv)
#WarOnBoobehs
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:48 PM (9BRsg)
*******
This must be Matriarchy then. Cuz if anything ever deserved to be called a pair of something, this was it.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 10:51 PM (xrURQ)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 10:51 PM (PQUoE)
http://bit.ly/1xb5idC
Posted by: The Political Beard at December 28, 2014 10:52 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:52 PM (9BRsg)
If you read The Federalist Papers, it was implied. Fucking liberal Judges though.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 10:52 PM (BXkFh)
Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2014 10:53 PM (fWLrt)
Much better to have them concerned with their genitals and fundamental identity rather than just accepting that they have interests different from the typical.
Posted by: --- at December 28, 2014 10:53 PM (MMC8r)
http://bit.ly/1CP6NSc
Posted by: The Look-Rape Hat at December 28, 2014 10:53 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: A B at December 28, 2014 10:42 PM (lSuTK)
Yeah I'm open to the possibility that Shiloh truly does feel herself to be boy and that this isn't just an agenda from the parents.
I remember watching a documentary years ago about how they used to automatically surgically alter babies born with ambiguous genitalia (usually a not-fully-formed penis) and make them into girls. But it turned out that most of the people this was done to ended up either identifying as a man or even getting transsexual surgery even though they were raised as girls and often had no idea what had been done to them after birth. What was interesting was that most of them said that they had felt that they were males from their earliest memories even though everything in their lives said they were female.
So it's possible that what's going on with Shiloh is something real and not just due to the parents.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 10:54 PM (wqVD1)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 28, 2014 10:54 PM (z+4T3)
Posted by: MikeH at December 28, 2014 10:49 PM (4OZqu)
Well, MikeH, right there is the problem with that one. They could not agree on Sammich or Beer and hence it died in committee.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 28, 2014 10:54 PM (MBmtt)
http://bit.ly/1CP6NSc
Posted by: The Look-Rape Hat at December 28, 2014 10:53 PM (/YkzI)
Does it count if I watching her on Red Tube?
Posted by: MikeH at December 28, 2014 10:54 PM (4OZqu)
***
Why not 20? Did the founding fathers not have toes?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 28, 2014 10:55 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 28, 2014 10:55 PM (8HGb7)
Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2014 10:55 PM (fWLrt)
There's a better argument for yanking MSNBC's licence and sending MSNBC's whole team to deliver their crap via YouTube.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2014 10:55 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 28, 2014 10:56 PM (z/Ubi)
Or it could be the obvious, she's a snotty eight year old looking for attention, mostly from her nonexistent parents.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 10:56 PM (BXkFh)
they were males from their earliest memories even though everything in
their lives said they were female.
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My earliest memories of being aware of boys as different (as in, "that boy is cute") was in grade school. Literally. I didn't have any feelings of myself as a sexual entity at four, which I think is when they say Shiloh started on this path.
Obviously you're right that we don't know. But the parents going along with the name change thing when "Shiloh" is already perfectly ambiguous is weird. That seems like bad parenting to me. *shrugs*
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:57 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 10:54 PM (wqVD1)
*Types*
*Deletes*
Srednop
* Types*
*Deletes*
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 10:58 PM (xrURQ)
Probably helped that your last name wasn't Dunham.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2014 10:59 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 10:59 PM (PQUoE)
Or it could be the obvious, she's a snotty eight year old looking for attention, mostly from her nonexistent parents.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 10:56 PM (BXkFh)
Could be. But the fact that she's identified as a boy even as a two year-old makes me wonder if there isn't something real there beyond just kids being obnoxious.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 10:59 PM (wqVD1)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 10:59 PM (1XZj7)
>>>> Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 28, 2014 10:48 PM (kdS6q)
Well, that would explain that. I guess that phenomenon occurs more frequently than I have seen first hand.
Posted by: L, elle at December 28, 2014 11:00 PM (2x3L+)
What's all this fuss about Neil Diamond's imaginary friend?
Posted by: Spam'bop by Chris Hansen at December 28, 2014 11:00 PM (FGEvF)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:00 PM (9BRsg)
Mike or Neil DeGrasse?
Posted by: Apple Fanboi at December 28, 2014 11:00 PM (ENe42)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 28, 2014 11:00 PM (t//F+)
Probably helped that your last name wasn't Dunham.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2014 10:59 PM (AVEe1)
Children are sexual and it is the parents duty to stimulate them.
*fap*fap*fap*
Posted by: Alfred Kinsey at December 28, 2014 11:00 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:01 PM (1XZj7)
Mike or Neil DeGrasse?
--
I'm going with "c" -- a package of Tyson chicken.
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:01 PM (9BRsg)
Obviously you're right that we don't know. But the parents going along with the name change thing when "Shiloh" is already perfectly ambiguous is weird. That seems like bad parenting to me. *shrugs*
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 10:57 PM (9BRsg)
Yeah I'm not saying it's the greatest parenting either. But for kids gender is really about a sense-of-self rather than anything sexual.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 11:01 PM (wqVD1)
Posted by: Rodney King at December 28, 2014 11:01 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: PaleRider -, LF rescue is #8. Thanks all at December 28, 2014 10:46 PM (7w/kf)
Once upon a time, they called such girls "tomboys." It was a passing phase for most of them and nobody made any big deal out of it.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 28, 2014 11:02 PM (+XMAD)
me wonder if there isn't something real there beyond just kids being
obnoxious."
And we know this how? Because her shit for brains parents wanted their kids "sexual identity" be a story for the press? In a two year olds mind they can self identify as a puppy for weeks on end, doesn't make it so.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 11:03 PM (BXkFh)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 28, 2014 11:03 PM (/pOl7)
Mike or Neil DeGrasse?
Posted by: Apple Fanboi at December 28, 2014 11:00 PM (ENe42)
This one: http://tinyurl.com/ndqcn8t
Posted by: Country Singer at December 28, 2014 11:03 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:03 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 11:01 PM (wqVD1)
Why do you think these special little snowflakes are inventing genders left and right?
It is in order to be "special" and identify as a unique snowflake.
Posted by: The Aqueous not-so-crystalline Hat at December 28, 2014 11:03 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 11:04 PM (PQUoE)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 28, 2014 11:04 PM (/pOl7)
I'm sure I would, as fond as I am of Phobos and Deimos.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 28, 2014 11:04 PM (0HooB)
And I guess I'm thrown off that Jolie and Pitt have adopted so many other kids when it sort of seems they don't have their act together on their own flesh and blood.
But, I know I don't really know the story and I guess it's NIMBY.
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:05 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:05 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:05 PM (9BRsg)
And we know this how? Because her shit for brains parents wanted their kids "sexual identity" be a story for the press? In a two year olds mind they can self identify as a puppy for weeks on end, doesn't make it so.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 11:03 PM (BXkFh)
Best not to mention that on Tumblr. There are plenty of "other-kin" that identify as animals, plants, aliens, fictional, and historical characters.
Posted by: The Hat-kin at December 28, 2014 11:06 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: The Aqueous not-so-crystalline Hat at December 28, 2014 11:03 PM (/YkzI)
If I bothered to log into Facebook, I'd probably be changing my gender every other day just for shits and giggles. Of course those dicks probably worked in some algorhythm to prevent you from switching it so much.
Posted by: Buzzion at December 28, 2014 11:06 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 28, 2014 11:06 PM (/pOl7)
98 Apple Fanboi at December 28, 2014 11:00 PM (ENe42)
OK - which Tyson is smarter?
Mike or Neil DeGrasse?
The ones that farm chickens.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 28, 2014 11:06 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Andy Reid, giant candy apple at December 28, 2014 11:07 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:08 PM (ENe42)
Ok, then: http://tinyurl.com/pm6wpuq
Posted by: Country Singer at December 28, 2014 11:08 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:08 PM (swH31)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:08 PM (9BRsg)
John Milius was the basis for John Goodman's character in "The Big Lebowski."
Posted by: JoeF.
I went camping with Milius. I'm in the back of a pickup with John Milius and a live deer. Well, Milius, he grabs the deer by the antlers, looks at it and says, "I'm John Milius! Say it!" Then he squeezes the deer in such a way that a sound comes out of its mouth -- "JhhnnMmmlzzz!"
It wasn't exactly it, but it was pretty good for a deer.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 28, 2014 11:08 PM (kdS6q)
That would be a hate crime.
Posted by: --- at December 28, 2014 11:08 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2014 11:08 PM (W5DcG)
me wonder if there isn't something real there beyond just kids being
obnoxious."
And we know this how? Because her shit for brains parents wanted their kids "sexual identity" be a story for the press? In a two year olds mind they can self identify as a puppy for weeks on end, doesn't make it so.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 11:03 PM (BXkFh)
Angelina mentioned it in an interview in 2008. So it seems to have been already been present even back then.
I'm not asserting that Shiloh's case is completely legit but I think it is a possibility. Based on what I've read over the years gender isn't quite as cut and dried as many seem to think it is. So it's possible that Shiloh falls into the small percentage of borderline cases that we know happen.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 11:09 PM (wqVD1)
<<<
I guess this could explain why we have 12 days of Sir Isaac Newton's Birth and shit.
Posted by: Fritz at December 28, 2014 11:09 PM (dVmLD)
122 This sock stinks - I guess I should lose it...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:08 PM (ENe42)
Let me guess. It smelled like a mixture of Calvin Klein on a hipster and Cult.
Posted by: Buzzion at December 28, 2014 11:09 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 11:09 PM (PQUoE)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 28, 2014 11:09 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:09 PM (9BRsg)
What? She Frenched her brother on national TV for Christ sake.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 11:10 PM (BXkFh)
The flame thread this morning smelled of burnt dog hair and Axe body spray.
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:10 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: LIV in Baltimore at December 28, 2014 11:10 PM (sEUh+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:10 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:05 PM (9BRsg)
***
Sing it. I was brought up believing that what you were given at birth tagged your sexual identity. Now, it is apparently negotiable. I am glad my daughter is 18 and shakes her head and chuckles at all of this crap.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 11:11 PM (OBxdH)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2014 11:08 PM (W5DcG)
ditto.... just barely.... 1959....
Posted by: Big Bad Wolf, Howling in the Woods. at December 28, 2014 11:11 PM (qh617)
Unless they're joking, they need counseling.
Badly.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 28, 2014 11:11 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:12 PM (1XZj7)
Well anythings possible but I think the more likely answer in the simplest, she's being raised by new age freaks.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 11:12 PM (BXkFh)
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2014 11:12 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 28, 2014 11:12 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at December 28, 2014 11:13 PM (P+IZm)
Posted by: --- at December 28, 2014 11:13 PM (MMC8r)
they got vajay-jays, I should know, I checked a few and yep, vajay-jay every time
Posted by: Lena Dunham at December 28, 2014 11:13 PM (sEUh+)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at December 28, 2014 11:13 PM (HDwDg)
Did I ever tell you about the time Milius went hunting? Milius decides he's going to hunt down all four of the Banana Splits. He stalks and kills every one of them with a machette.
They all begged for their lives -- except Fleagle.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 28, 2014 11:14 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:14 PM (9BRsg)
I dunno . Even if Shiloh is unambiguously female, I don't think there's anything wrong with letting a girl dress like a boy or vice versa, as long as they do things like insist she use the correct bathroom. I don't see anything wrong with letting a kid choose a new name to go by. My name isn't Jennifer but I went by Jenny for much of my life (my own name is both my grandmothers' so that complicated it). Shiloh will either outgrow it or she won't.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:14 PM (swH31)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:15 PM (1XZj7)
I'm guessing they didn't want any problems during adoption and kept that stuff on the down-low.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 28, 2014 11:15 PM (0HooB)
In English tradition (even Babyonian which ID'd 60 (5 x 12) as the real big number like 100 is to base ten) most things were based on dozens. This was switched around with the Enlightenment, and even more with adoption of the metric system in Europe.
So, NDGTBBQ+ is dismissing as a whim of history a system of mathematics that derives its existence on the very thing which he supposedly bases his major claim to importance on: to whit, SCIENCE.
So I bet we would have 17 basic rights instead, if the founding fathers had an unclean fetish for prime numbers, right dickhead?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 28, 2014 11:15 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2014 11:12 PM (BXkFh)
******
Probably something more like her other siblings are guys, and she would like to identify with them to fit in. Granted, in the past this would not have ever been an issue. Brave new World now.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 11:15 PM (xrURQ)
Mike or Neil DeGrasse?
--
I'm going with "c" -- a package of Tyson chicken.
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:01 PM (9BRsg)
Thread winner.
Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 11:16 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:16 PM (1XZj7)
I brought this one up a couple days ago. I couldn't help but laugh.
Have you seen the pics of the "memorial?" It was literally a pile of trash in the middle of a residential street.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:16 PM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 11:09 PM (wqVD1)
"Gender" used to be just a synonym for biological sex.
Women have two X chromosomes and develop female genitalia as well as physical and actual physiological attributes attributed therewith.
Men have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome and develop male genitalia as well as physical and actual physiological attributes attributed therewith.
There are cases where there is neither XX nor XY (e.g. XXY, X0, &c.).
There are cases where hormonal imbalances affect the development of genitalia or perhaps even brain structure in utero contrary to the presence or lack of a Y chromosome.
But "gender" in the modern parlance is a "social construct" meant to explain how there is no difference between a biological male and a biological female. Even there, biological sex is being declared a "social construct"... unless it is useful to declare that kids are "born that way"
More on this insanity:
http://politicalhat.com/tag/gender/
Posted by: The Pollitical Hat at December 28, 2014 11:18 PM (/YkzI)
I mean as parents, not stuff they did before. Angelina definitely went through a bad wild stage, but since she adopted her son, she settled down, did tons of charitable work/giving and seems to be pretty level as Hollywood parents go.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:18 PM (swH31)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:16 PM (lDfK
Sounds like the perfect memorial to me.
Posted by: Buzzion at December 28, 2014 11:18 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Lena Dunham at December 28, 2014 11:13 PM
I could have some vajay-jays around here right now, IYKWIMAITKD
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2014 11:19 PM (KCxzN)
The girl has always wanted her hair cut like a boy, and to dress like a boy, etc....her parents did not do it willy nilly, like the article suggests. Jolie said early on that she was the same way at that age and is not alarmed by it.
I do think Brangelina is helping to make it a thing by announcing the name change, but I don't think this is something they've done to the kid on purpose. And frankly, she was bound to pop up with "My name is John" at some point in public, so maybe they're just trying to get out in front of it.
I don't see what the big deal is, and am not sure I'd do anything any differently than they're doing. What should they do, force her to wear dresses? I think maybe I'd tell her that since she shares a name with a very bloody battlefield, she need not worry about it being too feminine, but really, is it so bad that she get to pick her own name?
She ain't the first female by a long shot to ever wear a tuxedo to a red carpet event.
What I don't understand about this sort of thing is why can't she just be a female who likes male stuff?
It's scary to me that they all seem to assume nowadays that because they "identify" with stereotypical male or female, they have to "be" that gender. (And I am referring now to older people, not young Shiloh.) If they were REALLY okay with themselves, wouldn't they just say, hey, this is who I am. When you insist on fully changing your gender, aren't you just buying in to the whole gender stereotype thing??
I most assuredly "identified" more with boys when I was younger. I was very aware of the differences between boys and girls and was always impatient with my prissy girl cousins.
I didn't like babydolls, I would have much preferred short hair and pants had it been allowed, I liked playing outside better than inside (albeit it, I preferred being up a tree reading to running around like the boys) I was way more in to those little green army men than Barbies.
I am not very feminine at all. I have always driven a truck, not a car, I am a baseball addict, the only TV I watch is sports, I only have long hair cuz Thor likes it, other than a slight phase when I left home at 18 and on my wedding day, I never wore makeup until this Spring, I have more fingers one on hand than pairs of shoes, never had the slightest interest in having kids... I could go on and on.
But none of that means I want to be a man. I'm just a chick that likes dude stuff more than chick stuff, overall.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:19 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: --- at December 28, 2014 11:19 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: The Pollitical Hat at December 28, 2014 11:18 PM (/YkzI)
So what you're saying is that PIV...is homosexual rape.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 28, 2014 11:19 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 28, 2014 11:20 PM (/pOl7)
So anyways, Milius would put on a white tie and tails and walk his pet cobra through the park on a leash. He named the cobra 'Beverly'. He taught it how to fetch and dial a phone.
But then one day, it bit the maid. So with tears in his eyes, Milius had to shoot the maid.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 28, 2014 11:20 PM (kdS6q)
Oh we're not even at the "waiting" stage yet.
But the family calls every day to make sure
.
Wife tool the holidays off, so we've just been chilling.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at December 28, 2014 11:20 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 28, 2014 11:20 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:20 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2014 11:21 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:22 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: fluffy at December 28, 2014 11:22 PM (Ua6T/)
I agree with much of what you say, but I'd draw the line at letting them choose new names. While I didn't like my name much, I would have been choosing new names for myself every 6 months as a kid. And I liked those dippy hippy names when I was a child, so I would have been "Rainbow" for 6 months and "Starlight" for 6 months - and no, just no. They keep the name they're given until they are adults and then if they still hate it and want a new name, they can change it legally.
Otherwise, it just gets too ridiculous.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 28, 2014 11:23 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 11:23 PM (PQUoE)
I hope he gets booed or the graduates turn their back to him.
Posted by: Buzzion at December 28, 2014 11:23 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Y-not at December 28, 2014 11:23 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 11:15 PM (xrURQ)
EXACTLY.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:23 PM (SmzxV)
If I had 12 fingers would fapping be better?
hmmmm
Posted by: LIV in Baltimore at December 28, 2014 11:10 PM (sEUh+)
Optimal is seven fingers, two tentacles, and a tongue on each hand.
Don't ask me how I know this.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2014 11:24 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:19 PM (SmzxV)
******
*Golf Clap* for the whole post, but you obviously know you were raised very differently than these kids.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 11:24 PM (xrURQ)
If a twelve year old has doubts about her sexuality, you deal with it. Privately.
A TWO YEAR OLD cannot have doubts about her sexuality. No ifs ands or buts.
You simply don't cut her hair & dress her like a boy (especially to be "socially aware" or whatever the fuck Jolie wants to be), or you may just CREATE a few issues...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:24 PM (YiBot)
We better hope the AFC sends N.E. Don't want to see a "Broncos vs. Anybody" Super Bowl again.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:25 PM (1XZj7)
My family moved away when we were 11, and I lost contact with her.
It wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn that she ended up as a lesbian.
On the other hand, I can't help wondering how our lives might have been very different if we were together a couple of years longer.
Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 11:26 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 11:26 PM (PQUoE)
Worse yet. Once you start throwing around terms lime "transgender" you're basically looking at a 50% suicide rate. And we do tons od surgeries even though the evidence shows they do jack Diddily to help that. (They're the wrong solution for the wrong problem.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at December 28, 2014 11:27 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:28 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2014 11:28 PM (MQEz6)
The girl has always wanted her hair cut like a boy, and to dress like a boy, etc....her parents did not do it willy nilly, like the article suggests. Jolie said early on that she was the same way at that age and is not alarmed by it.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:19 PM (SmzxV)
In ages past, she'd just be labeled a Tomboy.
In this brave new world, she will now be pressured to be a "he." Not jut be a Tomboy, or prefer playing with boys, &c., but outright be a trans-gendered "boy".
The child will not be allowed to go back because that would support the idea that kids before puberty do in fact go through phases, including perhaps that of a Tomboy. This contradicts the narrative that "gender" is a social construct and cis-gendered individuals are oppressors who force non-cis-gendered individuals to act cis.
That kid's life is going to be messed up.
Posted by: The Pollitical Hat at December 28, 2014 11:28 PM (/YkzI)
A TWO YEAR OLD cannot have doubts about her sexuality. No ifs ands or buts.
You simply don't cut her hair dress her like a boy (especially
to be "socially aware" or whatever the fuck Jolie wants to be), or you
may just CREATE a few issues...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:24 PM (YiBot)
Hemingway's mom dressed him as a girl for years. Which is why he ended up so well adjusted and shit.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 28, 2014 11:28 PM (t//F+)
NDT is a buffoon.
Clown should just stop trying to be a snarky, witty deuschbag and stick to managing planetariums.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 28, 2014 11:28 PM (bKSy7)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2014 10:31 PM
And howdy from chilly IL. We had a nice few days in AZ, but there's a cold front coming in here in IL and I have to work tomorrow. UGH.
Be well u Morons.
Posted by: Farmer at December 28, 2014 11:29 PM (o/90i)
I was raised by Holy Rollers, so short hair and pants were not on the table, but if the kid wants her hair short, so what? Pants, really, girls can't wear them ?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:29 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 28, 2014 11:29 PM (Lqy/e)
It seems like they waited a while and probably already went through a few names before announcing it. And I still don't see the harm if you're not legally changing names (my parents didn't legally change mine, and I use it in real life now, and use Jenny on the internet since it's basically anonymous) even if the kid does try on a few names at first. I guess I would limit it to actual names and just say "I'm not calling you Starfire, deal" if it were me.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:29 PM (swH31)
If a twelve year old has doubts about her sexuality, you deal with it. Privately.
A TWO YEAR OLD cannot have doubts about her sexuality. No ifs ands or buts.
You simply don't cut her hair dress her like a boy (especially to be "socially aware" or whatever the fuck Jolie wants to be), or you may just CREATE a few issues...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:24 PM (YiBot)
Don't confuse sexuality with gender. Not the same thing. And I don't recommend indulging a two year old's whims on how they want to dress or wear their hair.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 11:30 PM (wqVD1)
Posted by: hepcat at December 28, 2014 11:31 PM (IeR2g)
"
I've got a good friend that's a lesbian. We've been tighter than thieves for a decade and a half. She's into guns and liquor and smacking the bitches around.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:31 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 11:31 PM (PQUoE)
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 28, 2014 11:31 PM (Lqy/e)
As the future stay at home dad, I'm willing to roll with "gender roles" having some social construct to it.
But that doesn't mean what the left wants it to.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at December 28, 2014 11:32 PM (HDwDg)
Hemingway was a mess, but Victorian parents frequently dressed children of both genders in dresses until they were about 3.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 28, 2014 11:32 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 28, 2014 11:32 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Sunny Leone at December 28, 2014 11:32 PM (FGEvF)
and she had the genetic marker for the same kind of cancer. So I think
she did the smart thing.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 10:40 PM (wqVD1)
It would be sadly ironic if she developed breast cancer anyway, in some small shred of breast tissue left behind.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2014 11:33 PM (zBx8A)
In this brave new world, she will now be pressured to be a "he.
My point is that we are all assuming, or rather the article implies, that it's her parents that are forcing this.
I do not believe they are.
I think they're just rolling with it.
I think they will be fine if she wakes up when she's 16 and says pass me the lipstick and frilly dresses.
I think they'll be fine with it if she decided she wants a penis.
I guess I'm not sure what else we think they should do. Forcing her to grow her hair out and wear only dresses will not be helpful, IMHO.
I do not for one minute think they're forcing this on her.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:33 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:35 PM (swH31)
Posted by: Sunny Leone at December 28, 2014 11:32 PM (FGEvF)
Yet pseudo-random song and dance numbers breaking out in every Bollywood movie is mandated by law...
Posted by: Daler Mehndi's Hat at December 28, 2014 11:35 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 28, 2014 11:35 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at December 28, 2014 11:35 PM (PQUoE)
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2014 10:47 PM (tBSrv)
Pants: singular on top, plural at the bottom.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2014 11:36 PM (zBx8A)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:29 PM
I thought I was the only one...I'm a recovering Southern Baptist...I don't touch the stuff these days
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2014 11:36 PM (KCxzN)
Me, too! John? Alright fine, down South we give our girls boys names quite often, but I'd draw the line at what I think of as hippie names!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:36 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:36 PM (swH31)
"One day an instructor told George Lucas that a film of his could not be
shown because it would make the other students feel inadequate. Milius
punched the instructor in the face."
Posted by: irright at December 28, 2014 11:37 PM (DtNNC)
I do not believe they are.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:33 PM (SmzxV)
Now-a-days, in Leftist circles, she will be pressured to be a "he".
A "cis" who comes out as "trans" is lauded.
Someone who had identified as the other sex who decides that they really are the gender they were born as are condemned as heretics, or worse.
Posted by: The Cis-Hat at December 28, 2014 11:38 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2014 11:36 PM (KCxzN)
Oh, child, Southern Baptists got nothin' on Pentecostals...
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:38 PM (SmzxV)
I get you. (And I was typing & posting before your very well articulated post).
From what I gathered, this all started at two, correct? Did Mom & Dad "help" this little adventure along?
Can you honestly say that you have any memories from that age? My earliest memory is about 4 - and I think I may have made that up in my own mind. Even if I didn't, it is so foggy & vague, it has to be only half-true. ..
Look, I love me a tomboy (references available upon request), and I won't argue the fact that they (you?) exist - but I just won't accept that a two, four, six or eight year old is capable of making the decision of being identified as a sex he/she wasn't born into.
Slippery slopes & all...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:39 PM (YiBot)
I just love the way these modern believers of science choose to ignore
it when it comes to sex. Its hard coded in your DNA. You don't get to
choose it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 28, 2014 11:29 PM (Lqy/e)
There are a lot of things being conflated here, and it's worth considering where they come from. There's your basic DNA sex -- which is typically XX or XY, but can end up with a variety of (thankfully rare) issues like XXY or X0. There are exposures in the womb (such as hormones, toxins, drugs, or other stressors) which can modify normal sexual development in the brain and body, as well as innate or physical developmental abnormalities which more usually result in things like ambiguous genitalia -- as Maet noted @79, the DNA and brain development are normally on-track.
That leads to a gender at birth, and only then do you start overlaying the original gender at birth with social constructs, training, upbringing, and psychological issues.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2014 11:40 PM (T1005)
I think the angst comes because there are young people still in there prime looping off breasts and removing uteri because a test told them they have a "higher" chance for breast cancer.
(I forget the exact BRCA numbers but it's far from certain. And the way it works there's a heavy element of environment and chance involved )
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at December 28, 2014 11:40 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 28, 2014 11:41 PM (z/Ubi)
LOL!
Honestly, I do not think the child has said she thinks she's a boy, or even that she wants to be one any further than dressing and playing like one.
Boyz have all the cool toys, their clothes are infinitely more comfortable and they are SO MUCH EASIER to deal with.... I don't blame her one bit.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:41 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2014 11:41 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 28, 2014 11:29 PM (Lqy/e)
Not quite true. There is physical gender, self-perceived gender as well as genetic gender. Usually these are all consistent but under certain hormonal conditions the genes affecting sex may not fully be expressed. There's also good evidence that a certain level of testosterone is needed during male fetal development in order to masculinize the brain. Without that (or with a bolus of testosterone during female fetal development) and you get gender inconsistency.
Real actual biological science sometimes gets complicated.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 11:41 PM (wqVD1)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:38 PM (SmzxV)
******
Time for the old joke. "When I go fishing with A Southern Baptist, I always take another Southern Baptist friend with me. Otherwise, the first guy would drink all my beer".
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 11:41 PM (xrURQ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:42 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:38 PM (SmzxV)
That's quite exotic to me.
If the US mirrored the neighborhood I grew up in, it would be roughly 65% Catholic, 33% Lutheran and 2% Jewish. I was shocked when I found out, at about age 12 or so, that the US was predominately Protestant. Why, how could that be?
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 28, 2014 11:43 PM (+XMAD)
"It wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn that she ended up as a lesbian.
"
I've got a good friend that's a lesbian. We've been
tighter than thieves for a decade and a half. She's into guns and liquor
and smacking the bitches around.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:31 PM (1XZj7)
Hangin' with the right kind of lesbian can be an absolute blast. "Holy shit, look at the ass on the one in the red shorts." "Oh, yeah...." "After that, I need a drink -- you want another of those?" (....doesn't matter which one of you says what.....)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2014 11:44 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:38 PM
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2014 11:44 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 28, 2014 11:44 PM (Lqy/e)
Gotta sneak out early. Lest all the beer gone when you get to the store.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:44 PM (1XZj7)
So there are like three bowl games tomorrow, I think.
Who has tomorrow off though?
Posted by: Y-not
/raises hand
Of course I work 11:50 to 8:20, except for Sunday. Then its 10:00PM to 8:20AM. Of course Friday makes up for it because my weekend starts at 6:20 AM.
So yeah, I might watch a college game tomorrow, but then again maybe not.
Haven't watched a single bowl game yet this year, was really only going to watch 4 or 5 and those bowls haven't played yet. There's what? 38 bowls, with teams that have .500 records playing in them?
Meh
Posted by: Gmac - Still pondering something... at December 28, 2014 11:44 PM (4pjhs)
I have pretty clear memories of being two. I can describe some things pretty clearly, but somehow they get filed wrong. For example, one time I was describing what I *thought* was the only time my dad had worn a costume for Halloween. My mother was insisting he'd never worn one, I was positive he must have because I remembered him in something long and dark like a dress with a funny hat and I was dressed like a Princess and a few more details before it dawned on my mom that I was describing my dad's graduation from medical school when I was two. I was dressed up, my dad was indeed wearing a funny hat and a gown.
Tl:dr kid memories are fascinating
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:46 PM (swH31)
We once had a bachelor party for Milius. He ate the entire cake before we could tell him there was a stripper in it.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 28, 2014 11:46 PM (kdS6q)
I agree on many things...but I think them saying this started when she was 2 is very believable.
She probably didn't want to play with dolls at that age, she probably pitched a fit when they put a skirt on her instead of pants. I have nieces who did that.
I have a niece who went around telling everyone she was daddy's little boy when she was 4. We all thought it was hysterical.
What we didn't do was assume she was going to need an operation when she grew up!
That's what throws me nowadays.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:46 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2014 11:47 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:47 PM (1XZj7)
In fact it was essential to have them be boys and girls so they could fit into the roles society had for them.
Children go through war, loss, abandonment, loosing families, hunger...you name it. Generally what makes them capable of becoming (mostly) complete adults is that they have a society or individuals that can show them how to be adults.
When they are instead raised to be sacrifices to-, or justification for-, or experiments of some utopian vision of the world of tomorrow, then you get severely damaged people.
Most of them miserable, some of them predators on the rest of society, most of them working their pain out on anyone weak enough not to resist.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 28, 2014 11:47 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 28, 2014 11:47 PM (0HooB)
You must have grown up in my neighborhood. Except now you can add 1% Hindu/Sikh because of all of the Indians who live here and work at GE.
Posted by: bossy barbara at December 28, 2014 11:47 PM (F2IAQ)
Episcopalians don't recognize the Office of The Pope.
Baptists don't recognize one another in a liquor store.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 28, 2014 11:48 PM (RzZOc)
http://tinyurl.com/nrln2v7
(yeah, you'll have to scroll way down)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (nL0sw)
I just know I'm Flounder
Posted by: Weirddave at December 28, 2014 11:49 PM (KAmzK)
Carrier has a 65% lifetime risk of breast cancer. A mastectomy reduces the risk by 90 to 95%, so gets the risk of cancer down to single digits essentially.
Posted by: Aviator at December 28, 2014 11:50 PM (3rrMW)
tighter than thieves for a decade and a half. She's into guns and liquor
and smacking the bitches around.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:31 PM
What's she doing tomorrow night? I could get cleaned up by sundown..
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2014 11:50 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 11:41 PM (wqVD1)
Not really.
The vast majority of people with XX chromosomes are women who think they are women and like men. The vast majority of people with XY chromosomes are men who think they are men and like women.
There are variations from the norm. Sometimes people aren't born either XX or XY. Sometimes conditions in utero can put brain structure, or even physical genitalia, at odds with their chromosomes. But they are exceptions too the norm. Even then, having a feminine mind does not make a boy a full fledged girl.
The Left use the fact that there are variations from the norm to declare that there is no norm. No one, they declare, are actually straight, or cis-gendered, or even a biological male or female -- that all becomes a "social construct".
Posted by: The Cis-Hat at December 28, 2014 11:50 PM (/YkzI)
30 24 I mentioned it on a few earlier threads, but Congrats (?) to Ace and the rest of Delta House COBs.
http://tinyurl.com/nrln2v7
(yeah, you'll have to scroll way down)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 28, 2014 10:41 PM (nL0sw)
I just know I'm Flounder
Posted by: Weirddave at December 28, 2014 11:49 PM (KAmzK)
What does that make Gingy?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2014 11:50 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 28, 2014 11:43 PM (+XMAD)[/i}
OMG, I am cracking up over here!
I was 21 years old before I realized there were white Catholics.
I mean, I was vaguely aware that Irish people were mostly Catholic, but I thought that was in Ireland.
The only Catholics I had ever met were black folks in NOLA, Cajuns ( who at least in my family are all olive skinned) and Mexicans in SoCal.
NO CLUE.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:50 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:51 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:51 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:51 PM (SmzxV)
That's what throws me nowadays.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:46 PM (SmzxV)
***
Me too. I am not an Engineer or a Doc, but the amount of surgery and Hydraulics/Pneumatics it would take to do a good Addadictamy seems daunting. I get stuck on where the fluid required would reside.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 28, 2014 11:51 PM (xrURQ)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 28, 2014 11:51 PM (z/Ubi)
Maet @ 196
------------------
Sorry, buddy, but i'll have to ask for a schooling here...
My mind sees it as:
Gender - you're born with either male or female genitalia (except in rare circumstances). You can't change that.
Sexuality - I'll concede that this is not always a preference. I guess i consider it "sexual proclivity" for lack of a better term.
Shit!
I always wanted the ONT to be fun & no thinkin' & stuff, but I don't mind this - how do you distinguish between gender & sexuality?
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:51 PM (YiBot)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:52 PM (SmzxV)
Tyson is a smug, supercilious man who needs to stop believing his own press.
(Oh, and hello, Miss Tammy.)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 28, 2014 11:52 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 28, 2014 11:52 PM (kdS6q)
The key term the is "lifetime" 20somethings and early 30s going through the process strikes me as a bit extreme.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at December 28, 2014 11:53 PM (HDwDg)
Eh, everything is far from certain. Her chances of developing cancer weren't 100% and they're not 0 now, but it seems clear that in her case (not mine, even though I'm the daughter of a breast cancer survivor, not in most people's cases) the risk of going through the surgery was greatly outweighed by how much the surgery lowered her chances of developing cancer.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:53 PM (swH31)
She wasn't in her 20s or early 30s when she had it done, though, nor did she recommend that 20-34-year-olds get it done?
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:54 PM (swH31)
Don't confuse sexuality with gender.
Maet @ 196
------------------
Sorry, buddy, but i'll have to ask for a schooling here...
My mind sees it as:
Gender - you're born with either male or female genitalia (except in rare circumstances). You can't change that.
Sexuality - I'll concede that this is not always a preference. I
guess i consider it "sexual proclivity" for lack of a better term.
Shit!
I always wanted the ONT to be fun no thinkin' stuff, but
I don't mind this - how do you distinguish between gender
sexuality?
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:51 PM (YiBot)
Funny, I always figured that sex is which bathroom you use, and gender gets you slapped....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2014 11:55 PM (T1005)
Have you ever been to Chicago or Milwaukee or most Midwestern states? There are Catholic and Lutheran churches every few blocks and attended by mostly whites. The blacks are usually Baptist.
Posted by: bossy barbara at December 28, 2014 11:55 PM (F2IAQ)
I grew up in Southern Baptist territory, during the days when the Catholics were considered apostate and the mainlines were at least suspect. The first time I set foot in a Catholic church was as a teen, when I was a pallbearer at the funeral of my friend's father. The ceremony was beautiful, and it was the first step toward questioning the SBC.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 28, 2014 11:56 PM (rJUlF)
"What's she doing tomorrow night? I could get cleaned up by sundown.
Slow down. I know exactly where's she at and you're not her type.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:56 PM (1XZj7)
Serioulsy, do any of the new bits work at all?
That's another thing I just do not get.
You are not really ever gonna a real man or woman, so what is the actual fucking point?
Don't get me wrong, more power to 'em.... I'm not judging them at all, other than being pissed that our insurance costs are spiking because we have to cover their operations, I don't have a problem with it.
I just don't get it. At all. (I mean why they go through the operation)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:56 PM (SmzxV)
I'm not saying she was or did. But apparently someone decreed every event must be turned into a lesson in this crazy world, so people are fighting over the one to learn here.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at December 28, 2014 11:56 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 28, 2014 11:57 PM (t//F+)
Oh yes, I have for sure, since then. That's why I was so stunned!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:58 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:58 PM (1XZj7)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:56 PM (SmzxV)
I don't, either. These days, there's a lot I don't get.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 28, 2014 11:58 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 28, 2014 11:58 PM (Lqy/e)
Right, I just don't get why the lesson learned isn't "Research your family history, ask about BRAC genes, and listen to your doctor"?
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 28, 2014 11:59 PM (swH31)
But some memories from as early as two may be recall able.
I don't remember anything before the age of 4.
I'll look at pictures of me at 2 or 3 and try to recall something and it's just not there to recall.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 28, 2014 11:59 PM (bKSy7)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 11:56 PM
Never hurts to ask. Thanks for the candor.
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2014 11:59 PM (KCxzN)
So embarrassing.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:59 PM (SmzxV)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet)
I don't necessarily disagree. What she did is not irrational and is supportable. Each patient's personal decision.
Posted by: Aviator at December 29, 2014 12:00 AM (3rrMW)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/o6zx976
I really despise these f*ckers.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:01 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 12:01 AM (6chcw)
Yea, Ash Wednesday, scene of another embarrassing episode on my part.
I wiped Thor's ashes clean off his fo'head, not realizing what it was.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:01 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2014 12:02 AM (1XZj7)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 28, 2014 11:41 PM (wqVD1)
While that's true, you have to wonder how many of these transgender kids are the way they are because of genuine hormonal or genetic imbalances and how many are conflating a temporary identification with the opposite sex with the belief that they are girls stuck in boys bodies and vice versa. If they have parents who harshly punish them for identifying with the opposite sex, that could be emotionally scarring. However, it could also be that if they have parents with a political agenda who applaud and reward them for being "transgressive" or what have you - well, then they are under pressure, as Hat said, to continue to identify themselves as transgender. That too can be very damaging (I'm not saying that is the case with Jolie's kid.) It bothers me because children are being used as pawns in these gender and sexuality wars.
The worst case I can think of was one highlighted by Stacy McCain. A boy was adopted by two lesbians who decided to raise him as a girl. They had pictures of themselves with their "girl" and he was the most miserable looking little kid I ever saw. Apparently, their whole reason for adopting a boy was so they could "prove" that gender is entirely a social construct and not innate. And I also suspect it might just be a way of getting back at hated males.
If that kid ends up seriously crazy and kills himself as a result, I won't be at all surprised. It's PC child abuse.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:02 AM (+XMAD)
"ON TWITTER, THERE IS MUCH DEBATE OVER THE QUESTION OF IDRIS ELBA AS
JAMES BOND. My take: There is no Bond but Connery. Others are free to
play Bond, as I once played Indiana Jones at a law school Halloween
party. The relationship between them and James Bond is much like the
relationship between me and Indiana Jones. Except, of course, that
Jones and I are at least both professors."
Heh.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 12:02 AM (T1005)
About the gender posts: my 13 y/o daughter is a tomboy and I love it. Easy to buy clothes and she doesn't have to pick from the skanky options that seem to be everywhere. She wears lipstick for the dances, has a lot of boy *friends* and likes herself. That's what counts.
Posted by: bossy barbara at December 29, 2014 12:03 AM (F2IAQ)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2014 12:04 AM (RzZOc)
If I'm 21 and could die at 42, I'd whack and pluck those bitchez off and out in a heartbeart.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:04 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:01 AM (SmzxV)
Oh, no, I tried that too, but 16 high school aged boys dodge fast. They have practice.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 29, 2014 12:04 AM (t//F+)
Liked your tomboy rant...I grew up in a similar manner. Hated dolls (both mine and my sister's, to her dismay).
Loved playing with my toy soldiers...
Go figure.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:04 AM (OsWis)
I'll answer that with a story.
PBS ran a documentary about a women getting the BRCA test and deciding what to do. She directed the documentary and it became clear it was really just a self justification for her decision. Everyone who chose her path was happy. Everyone who didn't died.
All these people want to justify their choices. And supporting or critiquing Jolie is how they do that (even, as you note, she's a rare case in many respects)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at December 29, 2014 12:04 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:56 PM (SmzxV)
*******
Me either. So, you have a fake schlong that needs to be pumped up, and you get no sexual sensation from it. And, it takes a few surgeries and costs you 25K to arrive here.
Bottom line, I'm glad I was born in the early 60s and never have to personally deal firsthand with this shit.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 29, 2014 12:04 AM (OBxdH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:04 AM (U93Mr)
So they saw the child as a mere experiment. That is just sick.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 29, 2014 12:05 AM (rJUlF)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at December 29, 2014 12:05 AM (HDwDg)
Drain Bamage is nothing to worry about, Fry Miend.
I've had it for years.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:06 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 29, 2014 12:06 AM (Lqy/e)
JAMES BOND
He was great as Stringer Bell and as John Luther, but I can't see him as Bond.
Posted by: fluffy at December 29, 2014 12:06 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 29, 2014 12:06 AM (t//F+)
Hey girl! I love that story... so perfect for who you became!
Nice to "see" you!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:07 AM (SmzxV)
I used to have bad hand-writing, now I have my own font.
tomorrorw noches, mi amigoes
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 29, 2014 12:07 AM (KCxzN)
Granny florist could lose it all.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/o6zx976
I really despise these f*ckers.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:01 AM (OsWis)
It seems pretty clear to me where the line should be drawn -- if you have a thing on a shelf, anyone that comes in your door can buy it. But if you offer to do something for pay, it is tantamount to slavery to force you to do it except under the circumstances you choose.
Unfortunately, I cannot predict what the courts will rule in this misbegotten age.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 12:09 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at December 29, 2014 12:09 AM (aO9cR)
So if a young black girl likes to play with young white boys ,
Is she an Uncle Tomboy ?
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 12:09 AM (kbjhH)
I am sticking with the chickens and will ID using plumbing. These 13 word identifiers are making my head hurt and NSAIDS cause me bleeding issues.
Can't ID as a 1 or 0? Well obviously you are a 10. Get used to it!
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 29, 2014 12:09 AM (uPxUo)
The florist will lose.
Gay marriage has become a super right along side abortion.
Fuckers have twisted the constitution until it resembles a pretzel more than a foundational governing document.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2014 12:10 AM (bKSy7)
Almost makes up for the annihilation my Raiders suffered at the hands (and forehead) of Peyton and the Donks.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:10 AM (OsWis)
Just as you don't care about certain things men care about intensely.
If you have the desire to keep things clean, god bless but don't expect men to have the same urge and drive over it that you do and demanding that a man do so is a recipe for strife.
And Men; she's just not going to care or know as much about certain things you do nor understand your excitement about them. Putting women down about it is a recipe for strife.
But then this has been going on since the last Ice Age.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:10 AM (RZzX3)
Yep. Jolie's mother died in her 50s, I think 52? I can't imagine saying "Nah, I'll take the 40% chance of no cancer and keep my boobs". I can see waiting til the baby-makin' days are done, like Jolie did, but not much longer.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 29, 2014 12:10 AM (swH31)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:02 AM (+XMAD)
There are far sadder stories:
http://tinyurl.com/jw8t4yn
The problem is that the Left and the Leftist "doctors" are so gung-ho to declare a person trans-gender or trans-sexual, that they ignore all indications to the contrary.
This is because admitting that someone acting like the other gender may just be going through a phase and is really cis-gendered after all. This runs counter to the Leftist narrative and would justify treating a "trans" person as not really being "trans."
Posted by: The Cis-Hat at December 29, 2014 12:11 AM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 29, 2014 12:11 AM (rJUlF)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:11 AM (OsWis)
Amen! The niece who told everyone she was Daddy's little boy is still a tomboy, who sports a lil makeup now and then.
She used to love to enter beauty pageants when she was oh I guess about 8 or 9, and we could never figure out why, because she refused to wear dresses any other time.
Turns out she liked to ride on the floats and waive at people.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:12 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:12 AM (U93Mr)
So embarrassing.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 28, 2014 11:59 PM (SmzxV)
That's great!
A Catholic friend of mine married a Baptist and he said that after his first mass, he felt like he had been at exercise class. "You sit, you stand, you kneel, you stand, you kneel, you sit- there's no time to get a proper nap in, everyone's popping up and down like a jack in the box."
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:13 AM (+XMAD)
That's what I remember reading years ago...
I have very vague memories of moving from Michigan to Virginia (3?). *
I think I remember jumping off grandma's porch in MI into the snow and being stuck up to my neck (or was that just a story I heard 100 times?).
I remember my father - maybe. He was killed weeks after I turned four. He was always at sea when I was a kid. Were those memories made up? Stories mom & sisters told me? Who knows? I certainly don't remember Cuba, and we left there before I turned three...
I know that I got in trouble around 4 or 5 for comparing "parts" with a neighbor girl - neither of us knew what we were looking at, but we were curious who had what!
I know that I didn't "identify" or care what I was...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 12:14 AM (ILmoZ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:15 AM (SmzxV)
My Ravens will try to accommodate you, but I'm not sanguine that we'll be there long either.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 12:15 AM (KAmzK)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:16 AM (U93Mr)
No lie!
Plus, I was wondering when the preaching was ever gonna start!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:16 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 29, 2014 12:17 AM (qrn54)
Posted by: bossy barbara at December 29, 2014 12:17 AM (F2IAQ)
As it turns out, I do not give a flying fuck about cleaning either!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:18 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:19 AM (SmzxV)
First you have to understand the concept of age at the time of the memory.
I have memories that I think are from when I was 2-3 but I can't be sure because I don't remember knowing how old I was. I'm just guessing by thinking back from when I did know my age (or could figure it from the point I was in school)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:19 AM (RZzX3)
Ladies; men don't clean or care about cleaning to the degree you all do. (generally)
Just as you don't care about certain things men care about intensely.
If
you have the desire to keep things clean, god bless but don't expect
men to have the same urge and drive over it that you do and demanding
that a man do so is a recipe for strife.
And Men; she's just not
going to care or know as much about certain things you do nor understand
your excitement about them. Putting women down about it is a recipe for
strife.
But then this has been going on since the last Ice Age.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:10 AM (RZzX3)
Actually, I'm the cleaning nut in our relationship.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 12:19 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:19 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:21 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:18 AM (SmzxV)
******
You are an unusually rare gem among broads (allow me that one). Then again, I hope you already knew that.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 29, 2014 12:22 AM (o/3Hk)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:23 AM (OsWis)
shredded - What year did you leave Cuba?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:16 AM (U93Mr)
I haven't got the story, myself, yet -- but it wasn't the Cuban part of Cuba.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 12:23 AM (T1005)
I'm watching the opening credits for Guardians of the Galaxy. The guy is grooving to his Walkman, singing "Come and Get Your Love" into a makeshift microphone (a live rat(?) clenched in his fist), while punching and kicking other rats.
Good so far...
Posted by: Moron What's Bein' Entertained at December 29, 2014 12:24 AM (PK3rX)
I fell in the Tallulah River when I was 18 months old and I remember being pulled above the water by a man in a green shirt.
I should say I remember the green shirt, I am not really sure I have a clear memory that I was under water, but I can vividly remember being very cold and lifted up and the green shirt.
I can also remember falling down some steps in a stroller and my mama said that happened when I was two.
I have very specific memories of being in a specific home at Christmas, which would have been when I was three and I have several memories of that.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:24 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 12:25 AM (kbjhH)
So they saw the child as a mere experiment. That is just sick.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 29, 2014 12:05 AM (rJUlF)
THIS, x1000. Most of the children that I have seen being raised by two moms are experiments, or toys, or accessories. Baster babies who are there to "prove" that mom and mom are such wonderful, loving parents that there couldn't be anything wrong with "gay marriage."
Of course, most lesbians I have come across haven't managed to stay "married" for more than about 5 years, and couldn't keep it clean until then, either.
So who pays? The kids. Every damned time.
Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at December 29, 2014 12:25 AM (g+qqc)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 29, 2014 12:10 AM (swH31)
From what I just read, Jolie's chances of developing breast cancer, based on that gene, were something like 87%. Odds for ovarian cancer were more like 50/50. Based on that data, her decisions seem to me to be highly, one might almost say coldly (and I don't mean that as anything other than a compliment) logical.
Posted by: CQD at December 29, 2014 12:26 AM (G8YYJ)
I'm pretty sure it was ' 68 or '69, Mike. Back when Gitmo was just a baby making island for stranded sailors.
*I forgot to add in the memory of moving from Michigan - pretty sure I told it before...
Mom, with four screaming kids in the Vista Cruiser, lost Dad's johnboat off the roof on the Pennsylvania turnpike - I remember her standing on the side of the road in hysterics as 100 cars ran over what was now a flat piece of aluminum foil. I think I was three.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 12:26 AM (ywtnG)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:21 AM (OsWis)
There is much comfort to be found in playing Spoiler, especially for a hated rival.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:26 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 28, 2014 11:56 PM
Nice to see another Baptist here. And nice to see you are doing well after your latest health issues.
I was American Baptist, I think there was a big split over slavery.
The latest pastor who did Mom's funeral is good, we like him.
Posted by: Farmer at December 29, 2014 12:26 AM (o/90i)
The only memory I can just barely recall before the age of 4 was when my mother was attacked in the hallway of our apartment building, which happened when I was 3.
Otherwise pictures are all I have to tell the tale of anything before 4.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2014 12:27 AM (bKSy7)
I was 2-1/2 years old.
Something like that leaves a mark.
Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at December 29, 2014 12:27 AM (g+qqc)
Awful.
I recall seeing a special about the guy whose penis was burned off during an "experimental" circumcision that went wrong. That was in the '50's. The decision was made to raise him as a girl and give him female hormones, while his twin brother was raised as a boy. A sexologist at Johns Hopkins, John Money, encouraged his parents to do that. They were plain blue collar people - they wanted what was best for their child and they were inclined to believe a professor and an "expert" knew what he was talking about. The child wasn't told what had happened. The thing is, he always knew, somehow, that he wasn't a girl. He hated dolls, hated dresses, and always wanted to do girl stuff.
John Money wrote lying articles saying that the kid was perfectly content as a girl and the case proved gender was entirely taught. That was exactly what academics and feminists wanted to hear in the late '60's and early '70's.
Eventually, the girl who was really a guy found out the truth and immediately, tossed out the female hormones and started living as a guy. He had a fake penis implanted and even got married to a woman. The pictures they showed of him showed a normal looking guy, with a mustache.
But he ended up committing suicide too.
So much for social experiments.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:28 AM (+XMAD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 29, 2014 12:22 AM (o/3Hk)
You are allowed anything you want!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:28 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:16 AM (U93Mr)
Why would anyone leave paradise?
Goin' to Eden, brother.
Posted by: Space Hippie at December 29, 2014 12:29 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Your Average Democrat at December 29, 2014 12:29 AM (UVfht)
Posted by: navybrat at December 29, 2014 12:29 AM (JgC5a)
I remember the horrified look on her face when she saw car and daughter rolling backwards. Into a UPS truck.
In San Francisco.
She said I had a huge grin on my face.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:29 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Your Average Democrat at December 29, 2014 12:29 AM (UVfht)
**********
IMPOSSIBLE! No true democrat gets up in the morning..... you are lying.
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at December 29, 2014 12:30 AM (aO9cR)
Love that Milius-Kael story. Wish there was info about how the discussion (if there was one) went. Would like to think JM bitchslapped Pauline pretty hard. ;-)
Re my condition: went to see my doc yesterday morning, and *she* was out sick. Set now for Tuesday at 9:30am definite, her or an assistant. But I'm feeling better-- lots and lots of water.
And re Angelina Jolie, here's how I look at things: she's *not* promoting her son/daughter in public. What she *is* promoting is "Unbroken," which by all accounts is a pretty decent Christian film. IMHO that's what counts, not whatever strange ideas she may or may not have about children and gender.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2014 12:30 AM (/7rmH)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:30 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 29, 2014 12:32 AM (UVfht)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:32 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:29 AM (OsWis)
*drools*
Posted by: Harry Reid at December 29, 2014 12:33 AM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2014 12:33 AM (bKSy7)
Same here. I don't want it to be nasty, but I don't care if it's real tidy. I don't like gross, but messy doesn't phase me. I don't even see that things are a mess til they're really, really messy or when someone comes over. Thor and I never seem to put things away.
I have a housekeeper now, thank God.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:33 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:34 AM (OsWis)
Oh, I remember reading about that! That one was so much worse than some. At least with the truly borderline ones, doctors genuinely don't know which way things will turn out. With that poor man, he was unambiguously a mutilated male.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 29, 2014 12:34 AM (swH31)
You are allowed anything you want!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:28 AM (SmzxV)
******
Thank you Ma'am. I'm just gonna take break and sit back here in the AOS smoke break area before responding to this one. Hoo boy!
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 29, 2014 12:34 AM (xrURQ)
Vary interesting.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2014 12:33 AM (bKSy7)
So we should all remember being born.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 12:34 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 12:35 AM (kbjhH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:35 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:35 AM (OsWis)
Oh, imagine how fun it was for you, rolling backwards! I'd have ate that up, too.
Beating the Niners is a GOOD thing. I haven't forgiven them for eating the Packers alive a few years back.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:36 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2014 12:37 AM (/7rmH)
Or, that's the theory.
It is the retrieval system that you learn, not the actual formation of the memories.
Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at December 29, 2014 12:37 AM (g+qqc)
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* recalls, as a kid, the chain slipping on my bicycle *
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:37 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 29, 2014 12:37 AM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 12:23 AM (T1005)
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Dude! Do you know how much mileage I've gotten out of showing people my "green card" ??? (It's an old ecurity card to get on base for contractors - actually green in color).
And SMFH just reminded me of the time Mom left me & older brother in the car. We were headed to the old Kellogg cereal factory in Battle Creek & she left the engine running - he threw me over the back seat, my head hit the shifter, we went bAckwards.
I can still see the look on her face as we went into the ditch...
I was was three at the oldest. Seriously, I just remembered that!
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 12:37 AM (5S0JC)
Neither parent were keen on my driving anything of theirs, even ten years later.
Parents.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:38 AM (OsWis)
Did they not have you pee in a cup at the lab or anything? Or is it just females that they do that for?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:38 AM (SmzxV)
His hands were cold!
Posted by: navybrat at December 29, 2014 12:38 AM (JgC5a)
Posted by: tcn
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As my BIL would say, "My memory is fine. It's my recollection that doesn't work so well."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:38 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at December 29, 2014 12:39 AM (aO9cR)
Figure Tuesday morning I'm in for urine, blood and getting my prostate fresh-squeezed.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2014 12:39 AM (/7rmH)
I wouldn't say traumatic, necessarily, but unusual. I remember being scared of something (I don't know what) in the memory of my dad's graduation is posted earlier, which is probably part of why I filed it into "Halloween" at some point---scared + dressed up + dad dressed funny + dark.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 29, 2014 12:39 AM (swH31)
That would be incredible but alas I don't believe the brain is sufficiently developed at that stage to be able to retain long term memories.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2014 12:39 AM (bKSy7)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:39 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:40 AM (RZzX3)
Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at December 29, 2014 12:37 AM (g+qqc)
That must be like dreams. I can remember a dream when I wake up if I actively think about it over and over. If I don't do that then it will fade away into unreadable random access memory.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 12:40 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 29, 2014 12:41 AM (swH31)
playing in the backyard with a box, about three years old. Which would have been 1969 or 1970.
And from the same time period, my Dad and Grandpa remodeling our kitchen and building an additional bedroom and bathroom onto our house.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2014 12:41 AM (/7rmH)
I vividly remember standing there and looking up at people's legs and being scared.
A friend's father died when she was 2 and she swears she can remember him. Her mom took her older sisters to church on Sunday mornings and she stayed at home with her dad. She said she remembers sitting on his lap while he read the comics to her and he would take Silly Putty and press it into the comic strips so the picture would come off on the putty. (Remember doing that?) I think that's a nice memory. It's the only one she has of him.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:41 AM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
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Same here. If I don't do not mull it over, speak about, it fades very quickly.
What amuses me, is how my brain can create fairly elaborate dream places, where I have never been.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:42 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:40 AM (RZzX3)
*******
You go to the same strip club as me?
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at December 29, 2014 12:42 AM (aO9cR)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 12:43 AM (5S0JC)
She needs to convert to Islam. Problem solved.
Posted by: Country Singer (backsliding Southern Baptist) at December 29, 2014 12:43 AM (nL0sw)
Thus the memories are stored randomly with no markers for retrieval.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:43 AM (RZzX3)
The joyriding in SF is one of the earliest memories I have, when I was five (1974).
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:44 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 29, 2014 12:45 AM (3jmxp)
She'd always leave the keys and we'd sometimes go for a little spin around te parking lot. I'm really long legged, but very short-waisted, so I couldn't see over the dashboard real good, which meant that I'd put one of the younger ones on my lap and let them steer while I did the gas and brakes.
We never hit anything, and she never found out til years later. I'd say I was about 9 years old.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:45 AM (SmzxV)
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
Posted by: navybrat at December 29, 2014 12:45 AM (JgC5a)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:46 AM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:42 AM (U93Mr)
Maybe they are a mixture of places you have been and places you have seen on TV and movies. Or read about in books.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 12:47 AM (W5DcG)
The mental pic I have of you and the other midget cruising around the block is priceless!
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:47 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Country Singer (backsliding Southern Baptist) at December 29, 2014 12:48 AM (nL0sw)
You don't have a fever or anything, right?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:48 AM (SmzxV)
Close, he (who is still a great friend) had a Sicilian Father and an English mother.
Was your Irish side from Ulster?
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 12:48 AM (kbjhH)
Posted By: navybrat at December 29, 2014 12:45 AM (JgC5a)
Just like everybody else.
I have some other things that everyone has one of. Want to see?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:49 AM (RZzX3)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:23 AM (OsWis)
What problem do you have with those smells?!? My place in D.C. pretty much smelled like that all the time due to the ... ahem, social get-togethers in the evenings.
Posted by: Barney Frank at December 29, 2014 12:49 AM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: fluffy at December 29, 2014 12:06 AM (Ua6T/)
In order to make that believable, they would have make certain that "James Bond" was regarded within MI6 as a title, not a person. As in: "OK, Joe, for the purposes of this operation you will be identified as James bond. That will be your work name."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2014 12:49 AM (zBx8A)
Posted by: Country Singer (backsliding Southern Baptist) at December 29, 2014 12:49 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Bertram
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Perhaps..., but they are not places that I recognize. I assume that it is same for most people. It's just remarkable that the brain starts spinning these...., tales..., including surroundings.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:49 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 29, 2014 12:50 AM (FMbng)
Congrats (?) to Ace
http://tinyurl.com/nrln2v7
Posted by: Country Singer
Best Group Blog:
Hot Air: a news and commentary site without peer for its intellect, depth and breadth
Best Blogger in a Group Blog:
Noah Rothman of Hot Air: Didn't miss a beat after moving from Mediaite
Nope. Not best, not even adequate -- at least from a nominally conservative point of view.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 29, 2014 12:50 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2014 12:50 AM (/7rmH)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:50 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 12:40 AM (W5DcG)
Yeah, how many times have you woken up after a really weird or funny dream, said to yourself, "Good Lord, I have to remember that one!" and then you get busy with other things, get to work, say to a co-worker, "I had the craziest dream last night..." and then you stop, because you can't remember it any more. All you know is that it was a crazy dream.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:51 AM (+XMAD)
Figure Tuesday morning I'm in for urine, blood and getting my prostate fresh-squeezed.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2014 12:39 AM (/7rmH)
Tell me more.
Posted by: Barney Frank at December 29, 2014 12:51 AM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:51 AM (RZzX3)
Thus, it is all conjecture.
Posted by: navybrat at December 29, 2014 12:51 AM (JgC5a)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 12:52 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Country Singer (backsliding Southern Baptist) at December 29, 2014 12:48 AM (nL0sw)
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Wow.
You just reminded me that I was sitting in front of the TV for the moon landing.
Do I actually remember that? I know Mom has a pic of the TV footage somewhere... is that where the memory comes from?
Mind. Blown.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 12:52 AM (5S0JC)
I know! I hate that.
I'd like to remember some of those dreams.
I know in a lot of them I was having fun.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:53 AM (RZzX3)
I think it has more to do with our brains are still not fully developed at that age to be able to move short term memories to long term storage.
Our brains are like the worlds worst librarians before about the age of 3 or 4.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2014 12:53 AM (bKSy7)
Posted by: Donna
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Yup. That's how it goes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:53 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:51 AM (+XMAD)
I tend to remember the truly crazy ones. Like the one where I was giving birth out of my armpit and James Earl Jones was the father.
Posted by: Country Singer (backsliding Southern Baptist) at December 29, 2014 12:53 AM (nL0sw)
I thought of another early memory: getting my ears pierced when I was three! I don't remember going into the place to get it done, or getting the first ear done, but I remember very clearly the moment right after that first piercing, and fighting like hell to keep them away from that second ear (I lost). Not fun.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 29, 2014 12:53 AM (swH31)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 12:53 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Kreplach
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Presumably the neural pathways are still being sorted out and trained.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:54 AM (U93Mr)
The vast majority of people with XX chromosomes are women who think they are women and like men. The vast majority of people with XY chromosomes are men who think they are men and like women.
There are variations from the norm. Sometimes people aren't born either XX or XY. Sometimes conditions in utero can put brain structure, or even physical genitalia, at odds with their chromosomes. But they are exceptions too the norm. Even then, having a feminine mind does not make a boy a full fledged girl.
Which is why I said it *sometimes* gets complicated. And a 'vast majority' may still include a non-trivial percentage of cases that don't fall so neatly into the above pattern.
And I really don't care what leftist academics think about this. Because that's really about politics - not science.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 29, 2014 12:54 AM (wqVD1)
That must be like dreams. I can remember a dream when I wake up if I actively think about it over and over. If I don't do that then it will fade away into unreadable random access memory.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 12:40 AM (W5DcG)
I've stopped doing it but I used to write down details about my dreams as soon as I woke up. That's how I still remember some of them many years later. I did it because I always wanted to write screenplays and/or fiction books and thought that dreams can sometimes provide some good content for that. Wrote a few treatments based on some of them that I hope to try to do something with at some point in the future, but, like so many things in life, I never seem to have the time.
Posted by: Slappy at December 29, 2014 12:54 AM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: SMFH
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Sad, really. We never had a chance...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:55 AM (U93Mr)
I think it has more to do with our brains are still not fully developed at that age to be able to move short term memories to long term storage.
Posted by: Kreplach
I'm counting on it.
Posted by: Lena Dunham
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 29, 2014 12:55 AM (kdS6q)
That's a bit solipsistic.
Is this really real or are we all just figments of our imagination!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:55 AM (RZzX3)
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 12:35 AM (kbjhH)
P.J.O'Rourke is Irish but not Catholic. His grandfather got pissed off at the church and converted to Methodism.
Steve, did the colonscopy go OK?
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:56 AM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 12:57 AM (W5DcG)
Gender - you're born with either male or female genitalia (except in rare circumstances). You can't change that.
Sexuality - I'll concede that this is not always a preference. I guess i consider it "sexual proclivity" for lack of a better term.
Shit!
I always wanted the ONT to be fun no thinkin' stuff, but I don't mind this - how do you distinguish between gender sexuality?
Posted by: shredded chi at December 28, 2014 11:51 PM (YiBot)
Um you just made that very distinction in your comment. And the existence of male and female homosexuality proves that gender and sexual preference are not perfectly correlated.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 29, 2014 12:57 AM (wqVD1)
Somewhere between 7-10 items.
Beyond that number some items will fade away.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:58 AM (RZzX3)
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I've thought the same. "Damn.., that would make a great short story."
The only one I recall was about a Kuwati refugee making a living by hanging on the back of a garbage truck.
I wonder what I had for dinner that night?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 12:58 AM (U93Mr)
Child, I could tell some stories about those days. A lot of my family had all moved en masse from Deliverance territory (Rabun County GA) down to Atlanta.
It was a like a whole 'nuther planet to us, and our poor neighbors never knew what hit 'em.
We were especially enamored of the buggies in the grocery store, which none of us had ever seen before. There wasn't always a car around, so we'd bring them home and of course we were supposed to take them back to the store, but we weren't always in a real hurry to do so, especially if no adults were around.
My older brothers took a twin mattress, all the pillows in the house, the couch cushions and God know what else, drug all that and two buggies up on the roof, lined the buggies with the padding and spent hours pushing each other off the roof.
I do not know how we lived, I really don't, but I tell you what, they all made fearless Marines!!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 12:58 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Country Singer (backsliding Southern Baptist) at December 29, 2014 12:59 AM (nL0sw)
They feature not being able to walk, run or drive properly.
Always going up or down things like stairs or hills.
And distressingly my teeth always seem to be missing or falling out.
I don't think I have had a cool dream in my life.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2014 12:59 AM (bKSy7)
All else is folly.
Posted by: navybrat at December 29, 2014 12:59 AM (JgC5a)
Since I'm anonymous to all but a few of you, I'll reluctantly admit that I fell asleep with the TV on "E" last week .
I woke up in the middle of a vivid dream of me dating Kim Kardashian. This is not a joke.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:00 AM (5S0JC)
Here is "Prime Mover" by Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love Connection:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtnCcWOS7y8
Posted by: The Poliltical Hat at December 29, 2014 01:00 AM (/YkzI)
Good night and be good to each other.
Posted by: bossy barbara at December 29, 2014 01:00 AM (F2IAQ)
I remember my sister and I getting in a barrel (one at a time) and rolling each other down this hill.
Freaking hilarious when you climbed out at the bottom.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 01:01 AM (RZzX3)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 01:01 AM (SmzxV)
That, and my friends and I like to beat up officers' kids...
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 01:01 AM (OsWis)
Since I'm anonymous to all but a few of you, I'll reluctantly admit that I fell asleep with the TV on "E" last week .
I woke up in the middle of a vivid dream of me dating Kim Kardashian. This is not a joke.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:00 AM (5S0JC)
Did she invite you back to her place in the Shire in Hobbiton?
Posted by: Buzzion at December 29, 2014 01:02 AM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 12:57 AM (W5DcG)
That's definitely true. I can't stand when you have random people from your past appear in your dream and them being there makes absolutely no sense. For example, I recently had a dream where I was looking for my lost cat, which got out of my house, and suddenly I'm in my grandparents' neighborhood and was joined on the search by one of my co-workers from 10 years ago who I hadn't seen since then and one of my high school friends who I hadn't seen in probably 20 years.
Posted by: Slappy at December 29, 2014 01:02 AM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:51 AM (+XMAD)
My dreams are a blend of mayhem and control. I somehow know when I'm dreaming, so if the dream seems real and gets too off the charts I'll find myself saying in the dream "screw it, I'll wake up and this shit will never have happened. They say you usually don't dream in color, but I do a lot, and have the ability to go back to a dream if I wake up. I usually remember my dreams no matter how crazy they are.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 29, 2014 01:02 AM (FMbng)
Fun times.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 01:03 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Kreplach
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I haven't had what I would call a 'pleasant' dream in decades. Most of mine are pretty neutral, but tend to the weird. Not disturbing..., just inexplicable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:03 AM (U93Mr)
I can remember thinking it was so odd that they could pinpoint an exact spot on the moon to land on, but they were never sure exactly where they'd be in the ocean, and that didn't make any sense to me.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 01:04 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 12:53 AM (RZzX3)
This was really funny. I once had an extremely sexy XXXX dream featuring a lawyer I used to work with. And I was so startled when I woke up because while I liked the guy (he was a young associate, not an asshole), I had never found him physically attractive and he was married anyway. It's not like I had had a crush on him or anything.
I remembered that dream though -all too well! That morning, he came up to me at work to talk about a project we were both working on and I couldn't help it - I turned beet red, remembering what "we" had done in my dream. He said, "Donna, are you OK?" and I just nodded. But I tried to avoid him after that, because every time I talked to him, I'd think of that dream and get weirdly embarrassed! I knew it was ridiculous but I couldn't help it!
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 01:04 AM (+XMAD)
It was Ex-Lax. Next thing I know I am being wrapped in sheets onto a exam table at the base ER. They totally immobilized me to pump my stomach.
I am claustrophic to this day. Strangely though I work in a hospital.
Posted by: Cheri at December 29, 2014 01:05 AM (ZFPMM)
#1- similar to going thru e-mails deciding which information to delete and which to retain
#2- overnight thinking of solutions to situations that have yet to be resolved.
But the subconscious mind doesn't have a language feature, so all of the "language" is "visual" so to speak.
Lots of symbolism, hard to decipher.
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 01:05 AM (kbjhH)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 01:06 AM (OsWis)
AH, we must be cousins somewhere along the line!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 01:06 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 29, 2014 01:06 AM (swH31)
At least 1024. Consider a finger as a bit (say, bent or straight). You have 10 to play with. 2^10 = 1024
Yes, I've done it.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 29, 2014 01:06 AM (Gp6a2)
So far he's behaved exactly like a Latin leftist would behave. Probably cause that's what he is.
Posted by: costanza defense at December 29, 2014 01:06 AM (zwdxl)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 01:07 AM (OsWis)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, T
But do they recognize one another in the ONT?
LMAO
Crap, this place seems like it's infested w/ Baptists and Joos!
Posted by: Farmer at December 29, 2014 01:08 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:08 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 01:08 AM (OsWis)
Having commies in the White House and the Vatican at the same time sucks donkey balls...
Posted by: navybrat at December 29, 2014 01:09 AM (JgC5a)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 01:10 AM (W5DcG)
Tired of this dude. Though I'm sure tomorrow it'll be explained how he
didn't mean what he clearly meant. Or something.
So far he's behaved exactly like a Latin leftist would behave. Probably cause that's what he is.
Posted by: costanza defense at December 29, 2014 01:06 AM (zwdxl)
The warm-mongers know they are losing; argument from authority, using the Climate Science gang, is wearing real thin. So, voila! a new authority.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2014 01:10 AM (zBx8A)
I don't dream as much as I used to, because I do not sleep very well any more.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 01:10 AM (SmzxV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:08 AM (U93Mr)
I'm thinking the Comcast kind, where you hear the sound but the picture goes out.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 29, 2014 01:10 AM (FMbng)
For the last year, I've been having dreams of my classmates in school. AS THEY LOOKED THEN.
Last year was a reunion (I couldn't got) and though during the day I didn't/don't think about them much every now and then for the last year I've had a dream of at least one of them.
Like I was touching base.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 01:10 AM (RZzX3)
Vary interesting.
Or monumental ones. My earliest memory is my mom sitting me down in front of the big RCA console TV and making me watch what was on.
I was 2 years and a couple months old at the time.
On the TV? It was Neil Armstrong landing on the moon. It's my earliest memory, but I remember it clearly.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:10 AM (KAmzK)
Posted by: Slappy at December 29, 2014 01:11 AM (Am9Tn)
Yeah, the worst dreams are the ones where someone is coming after me, trying to shoot or stab me and I can't run. I'm trying to run behind a tree or car or into a building and my legs are paralyzed and I can't do it.
I have that dream fairly frequently and it's always upsetting.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 01:11 AM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 29, 2014 01:11 AM (RZzX3)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 29, 2014 01:02 AM (z/Ubi)
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I don't know what that means, but I can only surmise by the root word "Hobbit" in there that you are a bigger nerd than I.
And no. We lived together in said dream. We were quite happy. And this was before she was married to the "rapper" with two rows of teeth in his lower jaw.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:12 AM (5S0JC)
Posted by: Cheri at December 29, 2014 01:13 AM (ZFPMM)
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Yup. Had those. Often, I can't find the strength to steer, or stop an automobile I am driving.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:13 AM (U93Mr)
I've had a bazillion dreams about not being able to find my car.
I might be looking for it in a giant parking lot or a tiny parking lot or just on the street. But I cannot find it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 01:14 AM (W5DcG)
I used to have dreams where my teeth would fall out in multiples. Like I'd sneeze, and my upper teeth would fly out or I'd move my tongue around my back teeth and they'd all come out. Didn't hurt, no blood, but I'd be so embarrassed.
And I always had dreams where I'd realize I'd gone through half my day without a top on, or with no skirt or whatever.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 29, 2014 01:15 AM (SmzxV)
That's the pitch the greenies have used to recruit third world socialists to the eco-cult for 40 years.
Posted by: costanza defense at December 29, 2014 01:15 AM (zwdxl)
Posted by: Cheri
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Dunno. It is very hard to imagine..., well, I suppose it can't be 'imagined'. I expect plenty of studies have been done on the topic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:15 AM (U93Mr)
Last night I dreamt that Ross Perot had walked into a store in the south, thinking to buy an RC cola to decide whether to buy the company. But he got flustered at the counter and wound up ordering a Dr. Pepper instead. Maybe there's a virus going around.
And don't get me started on the one many years ago that involved Lt. Colonel Oliver North, Voodoo Master of Illusion. That one was just plain weird.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 29, 2014 01:15 AM (Gp6a2)
Nothing yet. Doctor couldn't make my Saturday AM appointment. Going in again for urine, blood and a prostate honk-honk on Tuesday morning.
Will let y'all know what the prognosis is Tuesday evening.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2014 01:15 AM (/7rmH)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:16 AM (KAmzK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 01:17 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Tammy
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Hmm. Tell me more...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, faking Psychologist credentials at December 29, 2014 01:17 AM (U93Mr)
A lifetime ago, I learned a method of counting on my fingers - I think I can only get to 99.
I'm sure someone here knows the name for that.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:17 AM (5S0JC)
I can remember a dream when I wake up if I actively think about it over
and over. If I don't do that then it will fade away into unreadable
random access memory.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 12:40 AM (W5DcG)
Yeah, how many times have you woken up after a really weird or funny
dream, said to yourself, "Good Lord, I have to remember that one!" and
then you get busy with other things, get to work, say to a co-worker,
"I had the craziest dream last night..." and then you stop, because you
can't remember it any more. All you know is that it was a crazy dream.
Posted by: Donna V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 12:51 AM (+XMAD)
One of my strangest dreams (from my teens) was a weird melange of Star Wars and Traveler (the game). In Traveler, there is a thing called a "variable sword" which is much like a lightsaber (but slightly more plausible).
Anyway, I've got a variable sword, and I'm being pursued through a spaceship's corridors by a guy who has this peculiar weapon. What it does is, he points it in a particular direction, dials in a distance and radius, pulls the trigger, and a sphere of that radius disappears with a "pop". Obviously, this is seriously bad news if it happens to include some body parts you were particularly fond of. But it's a particularly good weapon to have on a spaceship, because it doesn't blast anything past its target point.
So, I'm in a panic, running down this anonymous corridor, having been near-missed by this horror before, trying to find a safe haven. I hit entry buttons randomly as I run, but nothing seems to work. Then I spot a door up ahead that I know will open just as my opponent rounds the corner behind me and starts dialing. I sprint like hell and it opens when I hit "enter" and I dive inside. The sign on the door reads "Men".
So, door closed and I'm panting. Now I'm fucked -- there's no way out, and he's out there. I hear a "pop" from a stall behind me -- the bastard's shooting through the door.
I have to do something fast, so I dial the variable sword out to almost the width of the corridor and swing it through the door. Then I take a couple of steps back and try to rush and kick through the door for surprise.
The good news is, I'd cut through the door at shoulder height and the lower part of the door slammed into the hallway and caught my opponent unprepared.....the bad news is that I hit the remaining third of a door face-first and ended up stunned in the hallway myself half on-top of him. Fortunately, variable swords are much more adaptable in such circumstances than the nightmare weapon he was carrying......
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:17 AM (T1005)
I used to have a dream about finding out I really hadn't graduated from high school and had to go back for another semester. I was whatever age I really was at the time, but all my old classmates were still in high school and still looked the same as they did when they were seniors in high school. Nothing had changed but me and I was absolutely horrified to be back.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 01:18 AM (+XMAD)
Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2014 01:19 AM (bKSy7)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, faking Psychologist credentials at December 29, 2014 01:20 AM (U93Mr)
Dreams are definitely influenced by outside sources.
Since I'm anonymous to all but a few of you, I'll reluctantly admit that I fell asleep with the TV on "E" last week .
I woke up in the middle of a vivid dream of me dating Kim Kardashian. This is not a joke.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:00 AM (5S0JC)
The horror!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:21 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:16 AM (KAmzK)
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Well, I saw your post & wasn't going to say anything.
But now that you bring it up, Damn, you're old.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:21 AM (5S0JC)
He just really doesn't like capitalism.
Posted by: costanza defense at December 29, 2014 01:21 AM (zwdxl)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:21 AM (U93Mr)
But not quite as scary as the Full House spinoff dream.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 29, 2014 01:22 AM (swH31)
Y'all take care.
Posted by: Country Singer (backsliding Southern Baptist) at December 29, 2014 01:23 AM (nL0sw)
It was introduced by host Robert Osborne as a "myth".
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2014 01:23 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:08 AM (U93Mr)
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Posted by: Helen Keller at December 29, 2014 01:24 AM (aO9cR)
Posted by: Slappy at December 29, 2014 01:24 AM (Am9Tn)
Problem is...I never know beforehand which dreams will actually happen.
So it's nothing I can depend on, with anykind of surety.
I guess I am lucky...most of my dreams are either fun or something pleasurable.
Which is a good thing, because the bad dreams tend to weird me out and stay with me a long time.
Sometimes I dream in chapters, with the subsequent dreams picking up where the last one left off.
Posted by: wheatie at December 29, 2014 01:25 AM (943iJ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:08 AM (U93Mr)
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Posted by: Helen Keller at December 29, 2014 01:25 AM (aO9cR)
I had those too. I think they came from the old denture cream commercials where the old guy bites into corn on the cob and his dentures slip.
Being wholly or partially nude too - yep. Nightmares tend to be about either being utterly humiliated in public or about being in grave danger and helpless.
I'm sorry I didn't have more of the sexy dreams, even if I was embarrassed by them the next day. At least they were fun at the time
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 01:25 AM (+XMAD)
On the TV? It was Neil Armstrong landing on the moon. It's my earliest memory, but I remember it clearly.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:10 AM
You got me beat. I can remember when my Dad dropped me off at his folks farm when my brother was being born. I was 2 yrs, 9
mnhts.
Posted by: Farmer at December 29, 2014 01:25 AM (o/90i)
In the dream I'm always worried about electric and telephone lines, when initiating flight.
I realize that it's because of my big city upbringing.
have had the dream, occasionally for over 20 years.
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 01:25 AM (kbjhH)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:26 AM (KAmzK)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at December 29, 2014 01:27 AM (+XMAD)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2014 01:28 AM (/7rmH)
It screwed me up for a long time and my parents nearly brought me to a professional because of it after I told them about the nightmare. Worst of all, I had the nightmare several more more times in the next few months but -- and I'm sure you've all experienced this -- forced myself to wake up when the dream started, which felt like you do when you're under water and struggling to get your head above the water line. Thankfully, I have not had the dream since then but I'll never forget it.
Posted by: Slappy at December 29, 2014 01:28 AM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:08 AM (U93Mr)
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Posted by: Stevie Wonder at December 29, 2014 01:28 AM (aO9cR)
But now that you bring it up, Damn, you're old.
HA! Looks neck and neck to me. April '67. You?
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:29 AM (KAmzK)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 29, 2014 01:30 AM (swH31)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2014 01:08 AM (U93Mr)
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Posted by: Ray Charles at December 29, 2014 01:30 AM (aO9cR)
Well, I saw your post wasn't going to say anything.
But now that you bring it up, Damn, you're old.
HA! Looks neck and neck to me. April '67. You?
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:29 AM (KAmzK)
My lawn -- you should not be on it.....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:31 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone
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Youngest of four here - I'm 99 percent sure my mother actually did this on multiple occasions.
A basically single mom, different times, Navy commissary, but still...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:31 AM (3mOji)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2014 01:31 AM (RzZOc)
"Peter Gibbons: What would you do if you had a million dollars?
Lawrence: I'll tell you what I'd do, man: two chicks at the same time, man.
Peter Gibbons: That's it? If you had a million dollars, you'd do two chicks at the same time?
Lawrence: Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I were a millionaire I could hook that up, too; 'cause chicks dig dudes with money.
Peter Gibbons: Well, not all chicks.
Lawrence: Well, the type of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.
Peter Gibbons: Good point.
Lawrence: Well, what about you now? What would you do?
Peter Gibbons: Besides two chicks at the same time?
Lawrence: Well, yeah.
Peter Gibbons: Nothing.
Lawrence: Nothing, huh?
Peter Gibbons: I would relax... I would sit on my ass all day... I would do nothing.
Lawrence: Well, you don't need a million dollars to do nothing, man. Take a look at my cousin: he's broke, don't do shit."
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:33 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:33 AM (KAmzK)
I strongly believe that blind people dream in braille.
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 01:34 AM (kbjhH)
mnhts.
Posted by: Farmer at December 29, 2014 01:25 AM (o/90i)
I have a couple of memories from when I was two - not full-fledged memories with context but more like very detailed snapshots.
One was my father getting into his carman ghia one morning to leave for work, another one was of some boys playing on an ivy-covered hill behind our house, and also one of somebody giving me a fox stuffed toy. All of these happened at a house that my parents moved away from before I was three so I know I must have been two when they happened. My mother didn't believe I could actually remember anything that far back until I was able to perfectly describe the scenes with specific details from the old house.
I was actually surprised later to find out that most people don't really remember much before five. I have tons of memories before that. In fact in the Maet archives kindergarten doesn't appear until Volume II.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 29, 2014 01:35 AM (wqVD1)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:29 AM (KAmzK)
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Heh.
Looks like you have me by a month, old man. Of course, I was about three weeks late, so..?
Tell you what - I'll buy you a shot and we both kick the kids off our lawns!
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:36 AM (tzSAX)
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 01:25 AM (kbjhH)
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Me too. ...And also flapping my arms really hard, to keep in the air.
Posted by: wheatie at December 29, 2014 01:38 AM (943iJ)
Ye Olde Lawn. Verily, remove thineselves, forthwith!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2014 01:38 AM (RzZOc)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:31 AM (T1005)
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Talk about stealing a man's thunder!
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:38 AM (tzSAX)
I set up some targets in the backyard, went over safety & instructions. He started hitting the targets reliable after a while. Then my 6 yo son had a go. Finally my 5 yo daughter wanted a try, it was a bit big for her so I had to set up something for her to balance the rifle on.
http://tinypic.com/r/ajksqx/8
Posted by: lindafell at December 29, 2014 01:38 AM (LbPGR)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:26 AM
Sure, I've had recurring dreams. I'm an old bastard. What's fun is you can direct them in different ways if you've had them before.
Posted by: Farmer at December 29, 2014 01:39 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 29, 2014 01:26 AM (KAmzK)
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Not that weird.
Same thing happens to me...I remember thinking, "Oh, I'm back in this one again".
But it usually continues on, with new stuff happening.
Posted by: wheatie at December 29, 2014 01:43 AM (943iJ)
My lawn -- you should not be on it.....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:31 AM (T1005)
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Talk about stealing a man's thunder!
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:38 AM (tzSAX)
No, that would be Jim @512....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:43 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 29, 2014 01:35 AM (wqVD1)
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Same here...just snippets of things.
And sensations. I remember the sensation of crawling and getting tangled up in my dress...and getting frustrated with it.
Posted by: wheatie at December 29, 2014 01:47 AM (943iJ)
My first memory is being pulled up out of the water at the beach at our little in town lake. I was probably 3 or so. I remember before that when Mom went in the hospital and brought home my first younger brother. I was really young then - I was born March 1958 and he was November 1959, so that's pretty young to remember, but it was a big deal.
I also remember the next 4 younger bros being brought home.
I remember Neil Armstrong on the moon very well - we used to watch all the space trips, and after Dad bought the telescope, I remember trying to see the rockets in orbit and on the moon. I think that was mostly to keep us occupied during the long long periods nothing happened on the TV.
So I am older than dirt and y'all can get off MY lawn.
j/k
Posted by: alamogordo at December 29, 2014 01:48 AM (mk9G5)
I may be mistaken but didn't you get tired of Life is Beautiful thread to leave & use HA instead Tuesday?
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 01:48 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:31 AM (T1005)
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Talk about stealing a man's thunder!
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:38 AM (tzSAX)
No, that would be Jim @512...
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:43 AM (T1005)
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I have always liked Jim! I didn't want to drag a good man down to our level.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:52 AM (1S9oZ)
At least we can run the grill and laugh at all the young 40 sumpthins, who're too young to play Jarts.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2014 01:53 AM (RzZOc)
My long term infrequently reoccurring dream involves invasion. Over the yesrs I've been trapped in invasions of East Germans flying helicopters that look like grasshoppers, space aliens, cartoon NAZIs dropping sharks from zeppelins, and anything else you can't think of.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 29, 2014 01:54 AM (Gp6a2)
My lawn -- you should not be on it.....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:31 AM (T1005)
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Talk about stealing a man's thunder!
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:38 AM (tzSAX)
No, that would be Jim @512...
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:43 AM (T1005)
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I have always liked Jim! I didn't want to drag a good man down to our level.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 01:52 AM (1S9oZ)
Birthdates are easy -- he's got a whole lot of wickedness and depravity to go before he's down to our level.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 01:57 AM (T1005)
Oooh Jarts! Grandma had a set at her cabin on a different lake than the one I almost drowned in.
Us kids used to play with them. Of course, when we were probably not old enough for these new helicopter parents, we used to be able to light off fire crackers all by ourselves also. With a lit cigarette one of the adults would supply us. Oh, Bad Parenting! OOH!
I also remember the adults being crazy with bottle rockets and shooting them at each other from the dock in the lake.
And Jim, I would happily share my lawn with you. Have a nice fire ring set up on the deck and you and hubby and I could watch the stars and moon and imagine old Neil up there.
Posted by: alamogordo at December 29, 2014 01:57 AM (mk9G5)
464 Did she invite you back to her place in the Shire in Hobbiton?
Posted by: Buzzion at December 29, 2014 01:02 AM (z/Ubi)
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I don't know what that means, but I can only surmise by the root word "Hobbit" in there that you are a bigger nerd than I.
And no. We lived together in said dream. We were quite happy. And this was before she was married to the "rapper" with two rows of teeth in his lower jaw.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 20
I would have just used "did she invite you back to her hobbit hole" but that goes too much into innuendo so I had to go extra nerd. It's a reference to last years South Park finale where it kept getting mentioned that Kim kardashian was actually a hobbit and it was just photoshop that made her look hot.
Posted by: Buzzion at December 29, 2014 01:57 AM (z/Ubi)
I also remember Mom and Dad letting us watch Elvis on Ed Sullivan as well as the Beatles.
And dancing the twist at Grandpa's when he got his movie camera.
8 millimeter and I need to go to Dad's and borrow his to record our old home movies onto DVD one of these days.
Posted by: alamogordo at December 29, 2014 02:00 AM (mk9G5)
464 Did she invite you back to her place in the Shire in Hobbiton?
Posted by: Buzzion at December 29, 2014 01:02 AM (z/Ubi)
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I don't know what that means, but I can only surmise by the root word "Hobbit" in there that you are a bigger nerd than I.
And no. We lived together in said dream. We were quite happy. And
this was before she was married to the "rapper" with two rows of teeth
in his lower jaw.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 20
I would have just used "did she invite you back to her hobbit hole"
but that goes too much into innuendo so I had to go extra nerd. It's a
reference to last years South Park finale where it kept getting
mentioned that Kim kardashian was actually a hobbit and it was just
photoshop that made her look hot.
Posted by: Buzzion at December 29, 2014 01:57 AM (z/Ubi)
I actually played DD with the original 3-volume boxed set.....and you get the nerd award for that reference.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:00 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Farmer at December 29, 2014 02:01 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 02:03 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:03 AM (T1005)
You guys win. Capital N nerds...
And yes, even at a mere 47 I know what jarts are (were?), played with them, and have scars to prove it. I may even be able to find the exact set at Mom's house next time I'm over there...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:06 AM (1S9oZ)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:07 AM (T1005)
And I thought I was a nerd for spending my lawnmower snow shoveling earnings on my stamp collection.
You guys win. Capital N nerds...
And yes, even at a mere 47 I know what jarts are (were?), played
with them, and have scars to prove it. I may even be able to find the
exact set at Mom's house next time I'm over there...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:06 AM (1S9oZ)
Today, they're either a collector's item or reason for a visit from the ATF nazis.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:08 AM (T1005)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 02:08 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 02:09 AM (OsWis)
She looks like that black guy from the variety shows in the early 70's?
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:10 AM (1S9oZ)
wait...
I had jarts.
nov 1968 here.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 02:08 AM (OsWis)
Mark well the boundaries of yon grassy verge.....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:10 AM (T1005)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:11 AM (1S9oZ)
Jarts
Check the camping section of your local surplus store for tent pegs that look like large nails. I have a set of 12" long pegs that are actually 12" nails.
A couple of pieces of cardboard, paint and some silicone glue, and a bit of filing on the tip, and ... instant fun.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 29, 2014 02:12 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 02:12 AM (OsWis)
I'll have a last drink in your honor before I check out...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:12 AM (1S9oZ)
533
She looks like that black guy from the variety shows in the early 70's?
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:10 AM (1S9oZ)
She got the name at birth and comes from English/(Scotch-Irish) stock....but, yeah, you got the reference.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:13 AM (T1005)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 02:14 AM (OsWis)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 29, 2014 02:14 AM (z/Ubi)
Shit!
Flip Wilson, right?
It just hit me as soon as I hit "post"
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:11 AM (1S9oZ)
Yep. Me, with a tan that looks like three days drowned.....and my sister's middle name comes from a Flip Wilson character.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:14 AM (T1005)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 02:16 AM (OsWis)
When people complain about the content here, many commenters suggest using the Hot Air button on their computer.
In other words, if you don't like it, leave.
I was making an apparently weak joke about not liking the amount of trolls and other a$$holes that are becoming more common on this otherwise great site.
Thanks for noticing, I'll go back to lurking.
By the by, I appreciate your information on how to keep rose bushes healthy.
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 02:16 AM (kbjhH)
Why not leave if you aren't happy here? I'm sure your HA community loves you.
I looked & it was Seamrog, posts #283 & # 302 in Ace's repost of CAC Life Is Beautiful
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 02:17 AM (sj3Ax)
C'mon, cthulhu - I'm your favorite turd... don't shit me! You're not serious.
I was just trying to be ONT funny.
My first thought was actually a Joe Jackson song, second was Flip Wilson, then a quick wiki search just confused my simple mind...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:19 AM (1S9oZ)
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 02:21 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:22 AM (T1005)
I'll have a last drink in your honor before I check out...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:12 AM
Be well my friend. And other Morons...sleep like we can avoid the sciatica...
Posted by: Farmer at December 29, 2014 02:24 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 02:24 AM (kbjhH)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 29, 2014 02:25 AM (OsWis)
546
C'mon, cthulhu - I'm your favorite turd... don't shit me! You're not serious.
I was just trying to be ONT funny.
My first thought was actually a Joe Jackson song, second was Flip
Wilson, then a quick wiki search just confused my simple mind...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:19 AM (1S9oZ)
No, weird as it sounds, I'm completely serious and you guessed right. [You might recall that my own name is somewhat awkward.] While my sister's hair is darker, her pallor is lighter because she doesn't wear shorts all the time and lives in Oregon.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:27 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:22 AM (T1005)
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Well, G**gle is an ass, but the video you referenced loads fine on my cheap phone (and is damn funny!) - maybe clear your cache?
I say that like I know what I'm talking about - hah!
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:28 AM (1S9oZ)
It's her decision, but not what I would've done in her situation. I don't want any surgery unless it can't be avoided.
I with you. Major surgery on a probability? Hello?
Posted by: bill-o at December 29, 2014 02:29 AM (AWwDY)
Godwin alert - as with the guy with the toothbrush mustache, everything we really needed to know about Obama was in his books. I read enough of them to know, but apparently 53% or so of the American electorate did not.
No surprise there.
Posted by: JEM at December 29, 2014 02:29 AM (o+SC1)
nor are pseudonyms, hiding behind a true statement.
If you don't know who you are, how can you be someone?
Leave Carol out of this.
Posted by: seamrog at December 29, 2014 02:33 AM (kbjhH)
552 Interesting....The Market Ticker will no longer show posts if I
don't accept Google Adsense, and the video @541 won't load. Is Google
getting feisty about the people it owns?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:22 AM (T1005)
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Well, G**gle is an ass, but the video you referenced loads fine on my cheap phone (and is damn funny!) - maybe clear your cache?
I say that like I know what I'm talking about - hah!
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:28 AM (1S9oZ)
My software is loaded with "do not track" and "do not show advertising" and "do not disclose personal info" add-ons. And two things just dropped in the last couple of days that used to work. I may be changing emails soon.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:33 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 29, 2014 02:14 AM (z/Ubi)
Not really actionable by itself unless captain*arizona is a known shit-stirrer/troll.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 29, 2014 02:37 AM (wqVD1)
Dude - you're picking at nits...
I'm not even paying enough attention to care, but she tends to change devices often. Carol is cool. Don't fuck with her.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:42 AM (1S9oZ)
I just got back, and wasn't on the previous thread, but that captain arizona guy was trolling hard a few nights ago.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:44 AM (1S9oZ)
560
Dude - you're picking at nits...
I'm not even paying enough attention to care, but she tends to change devices often. Carol is cool. Don't fuck with her.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:42 AM (1S9oZ)
Do you ever read your email?
And Carol also loses internet connectivity regularly, and changes hashes. If it sounds like Carol, it's most likely Carol. Who is a well-regarded 'ette and a sweetheart.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:46 AM (T1005)
Maet,
I just got back, and wasn't on the previous thread, but that captain arizona guy was trolling hard a few nights ago.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:44 AM (1S9oZ)
Trolls troll harder if they're not banned today.....and he'll probably get banned sometime.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 02:47 AM (T1005)
Dude - you're picking at nits...
I'm not even paying enough attention to care, but she tends to change devices often. Carol is cool. Don't fuck with her.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:42 AM (1S9oZ)
Based on the ip address I believe that hash is the real Carol.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 29, 2014 02:49 AM (wqVD1)
From the "here we go again" dept:
Australian planes spot objects in sea in AirAsia search area, Indonesian official says - @AP
Posted by: Meremortal at December 29, 2014 02:51 AM (1Y+hH)
Jokes are not same typed, nor is sarcasm, unless spoken & tone of voice.
Sarcasm is lost in typed words
I lost rose advice when I dropped iPad Air.
Don't touch roses now, although we had warm days here in Zboston area. They're confused w/60 day temperatures. War, weather is good for us, but not for roses.
A blanket of snow is good for them.
I'm going to try to sleep all night because Ihavd been awake for 24 hours!
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 02:53 AM (sj3Ax)
which one? My real one, I guess?
Apparently, the new phone doesn't alert me when i get a new message...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:56 AM (1S9oZ)
Of course, if I actually make something happen from it (other than proof-of-concept one-offs), it can't be in California.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 03:01 AM (T1005)
Well, I guess I read my email when someone yells at me...
which one? My real one, I guess?
Apparently, the new phone doesn't alert me when i get a new message...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 02:56 AM (1S9oZ)
Yells?
The godkids' parents tried to have us join them at Cirque du Soleil today....except they tried to reach us by cellphone, which is the least effective means of contacting us -- landline or email might've worked. C'est la vie.....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 03:05 AM (T1005)
Posted by: USS Excelsior at December 29, 2014 03:07 AM (z/Ubi)
I thought you were upset for some reason...
now? I'm done with my favorite ONT ever, but i'll email you. I kinda want to call you tomorrow anyway.
G'night. Love you, man.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 03:12 AM (1S9oZ)
Did I get overly sensitive here all of a sudden?
I thought you were upset for some reason...
now? I'm done with my favorite ONT ever, but i'll email you. I kinda want to call you tomorrow anyway.
G'night. Love you, man.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 29, 2014 03:12 AM (1S9oZ)
I'm never really upset/slighted, and generally not insulted/puzzled.....and can recall few instances of being panicked/caring. Sleep well, and I'll catch you on the flip-flop.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2014 03:20 AM (T1005)
Jolie's mother died of breast and ovarian cancer at the age of 57. Her maternal grandmother died of ovarian cancer at 45. Jolie herself carries the BRCA gene that strongly predisposes a woman to early-onset breast cancer. IMHO, her decision was a no-brainer.
Thanks to all for a most interesting chat.
Posted by: Brown Line at December 29, 2014 03:26 AM (a5bF3)
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 03:45 AM (sj3Ax)
Funny, I never get that feeling when reading comments from the morons here.
Posted by: rickl at December 29, 2014 05:08 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 06:15 AM (0Nyv4)
I'm equally sure his fanbois will shower him with fulsome praise for "ending" the war in Afghanistan. Might even get him another Affirmative Action Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 29, 2014 06:40 AM (yAC3X)
Yeh, that one still takes the cake for pre-emptive idiocy.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 06:43 AM (0Nyv4)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 06:43 AM
It was the equivalent of me winning an Academy Award for taking the Universal Studios Tour....
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 29, 2014 06:45 AM (yAC3X)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:14 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: MrScribbler
Congratulations!
Can I get your autograph? Um, asking for a friend.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2014 07:14 AM (ne36z)
Posted by: Vic
Holidays still thru Thursday. In some minds.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2014 07:15 AM (ne36z)
(I see The Political Hat already pointed this out with a bit of commentary. See post #29.)
Posted by: FireHorse at December 29, 2014 07:17 AM (KTXxI)
Posted by: mindful webworker, eh? at December 29, 2014 07:20 AM (y4bHB)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 07:21 AM (0Nyv4)
Posted by: Vic
Chompin' at the bit this morning, Vic? Eager to lay a whole bunch o' news on us?
Git 'er done, cobs! Swing them doors open for the Vic-a-lanche!
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 29, 2014 07:24 AM (yAC3X)
The floor is sticky, too. And crunchy.
Posted by: mindful webworker, uh... at December 29, 2014 07:24 AM (y4bHB)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:28 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:29 AM (u9gzs)
The floor is sticky, too. And crunchy.
That ain't spilled cokes and food.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2014 07:29 AM (ne36z)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:28 AM
I think the lure of being able to work with the sainted Poppin' Fresh outweighed any grief the commenters gave Malor, Vic.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 29, 2014 07:30 AM (yAC3X)
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 29, 2014 07:31 AM (Aoayx)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:31 AM (u9gzs)
already have a morning post.
Posted by: Vic
If they wouldn't have, you'd be posting to a near empty room.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2014 07:34 AM (hpmES)
Where else could one get the banhammer for typing the word "revolution," Vic?
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 29, 2014 07:34 AM (yAC3X)
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 29, 2014 07:34 AM (Aoayx)
Good morning all. I see we have no morning thread, and not even a line to say that there's no thread-thread.
Anyway, I'm off to my late aunt's unveiling.
Make it a better one!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 29, 2014 07:35 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: mindful webworker - oh? at December 29, 2014 07:35 AM (y4bHB)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:36 AM (u9gzs)
This place needs a revamp anyway. Droom needs to be moved to Sports & Leisure. Benk needs to be moved to Travel & Fitness.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 29, 2014 07:38 AM (Aoayx)
Be a smarty...join the Platinum Party.
Just sayin'
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 07:38 AM (0Nyv4)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:38 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:40 AM (u9gzs)
No refresh addon?
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 29, 2014 07:41 AM (Aoayx)
Just sayin'
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
Use your gourd, stay with Cardboard.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2014 07:41 AM (hpmES)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:42 AM (u9gzs)
For my health and sanity, I ignore Benk's news dump. links.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 29, 2014 07:43 AM (Aoayx)
Automatic refresh that you can set to any time you want. Why reach for keys when you dont have to.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 29, 2014 07:44 AM (Aoayx)
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 29, 2014 07:45 AM (Aoayx)
Buddhist militancy sparks concern... Rise of new generation...
and
"PROF: 'Lost generation' can't fix anything... Living in disposable world... Expect everything to 'just work'...
and off course, most concerning,
POLL: JEB SURGES TO TOP...
Posted by: mindful webworker - ug at December 29, 2014 07:45 AM (y4bHB)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:46 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:47 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/ZXiLdd
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:47 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Erowmero at December 29, 2014 07:47 AM (go5uR)
http://is.gd/HeJzSw
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:47 AM (u9gzs)
yeah
The Marching Morons
or the later adaptation Idiocracy
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 29, 2014 07:48 AM (Aoayx)
http://is.gd/OSGeB6
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:48 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/ckOOcG
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:48 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/tJE6c6
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:48 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:49 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/wN72mQ
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:49 AM (u9gzs)
I've got just a few minutes 'til the hour. Don't they post right on the hour?
Hahahahaha I crack myself up.
Posted by: mindful webworker - ha at December 29, 2014 07:49 AM (y4bHB)
http://is.gd/lzJoo4
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:49 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/jmya2f
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:49 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:50 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/VVCW2w
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:50 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/hrVSyO
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:50 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:51 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2014 07:51 AM (Zmw74)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:51 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 29, 2014 07:51 AM (Aoayx)
http://is.gd/TuiyQL
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:51 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/7sEEw1
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:52 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/TeFbaL
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:52 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/apv8rw
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:52 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 07:52 AM (sj3Ax)
http://is.gd/oUoCQM
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:52 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:53 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:53 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/ha8A41
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:53 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 29, 2014 07:53 AM (V70Uh)
http://is.gd/QnArt7
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:53 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/o3gXI4
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:54 AM (u9gzs)
Million Man Ass Stomp.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2014 07:54 AM (hpmES)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:54 AM (u9gzs)
Pfft.
That's silly. When any of my important stuff breaks, I go to the Apple Store. Those guys can fix stuff.
Okay, sure sometimes I don't let them because I'd rather get an upgrade, but they totally could fix stuff if I let them.
Posted by: Derp at December 29, 2014 07:56 AM (0xTsz)
1st Amendment only covers the Guttenberg press.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2014 07:56 AM (hpmES)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 29, 2014 07:56 AM (go6ud)
Vic,
How are you??
I've been worried, as have many others, about you.
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 07:52 AM (sj3Ax)
I'm fine, I've been here for the last three days.
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:57 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 07:57 AM (0Nyv4)
Apple does plumbing?? Who knew?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2014 07:58 AM (hpmES)
Some Posters are referring to your passing comment the other eek about difficulty with your hands from Chemo.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 07:58 AM (0Nyv4)
I'm willing to bet McCain & Graham got to Scott Brown who couldn't be elected Dogcatcher now. I
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 07:59 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 07:59 AM (u9gzs)
Thanks, Vic!
Vic news is done. Sun is staining to rise. Pets are hungry. I have run out of excuses to stay in bed. (The chill of the bedroom doesn't count.)
Posted by: mindful webworker - now? at December 29, 2014 08:00 AM (y4bHB)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 08:01 AM (u9gzs)
Okay, Apple Store and my landlord both know how to fix stuff.
So I'm set.
Good thing my student loans are keeping me renting this tiny place, otherwise I could buy a house and have to learn how to fix stuff!
*moment of realization almost occurs but then my phone beeps because someone retweeted my pic of my Starbucks cup with my name misspelled*
Posted by: Derp at December 29, 2014 08:04 AM (0xTsz)
Posted by: mindful webworker - not yet? at December 29, 2014 08:07 AM (y4bHB)
Are you going through chemo now?
I have in 2002 & I lost every single hair on my body, except on my arms, the one place I woud like to lose it. I had mouth sores & couldn't eat.
I'm sure I don't have to tell you different combos cause different side effects.
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 08:07 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 08:08 AM (0Nyv4)
http://tinyurl.com/lnmrhh7
Sharpton is a liar, a race baiter, a demagogue and a tax cheat. Anyone with sense knows that Politicians are either using him as a tool or are frightened that if they critique him they will be the called racist. Anyone who uses him as an authority on race relations lacks credibility. 80 plus viisits to the WH? !!The former aide to DeBlasio's wife worked with Sharpton. MSNBC gives him a show?
Al Sharpton is a need of prayers-for a new heart and a right spirit within him
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 29, 2014 08:09 AM (Dj3AB)
Vic,
Are you going through chemo now?
I have in 2002 I lost every single hair on my body, except on
my arms, the one place I woud like to lose it. I had mouth sores
couldn't eat.
I'm sure I don't have to tell you different combos cause different side effects.
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 08:07 AM (sj3Ax)
No I completed it several years ago. The Doc said I would have problems with my hands and feet for about 6 months. After a year he finally told me it would probably never go away.
And each type of chemo effects you different. I had colon cancer and the stuff for that gives you the hand/feet problem. Other chemo will cause hair loss and nausea. Luckily I didn't have any of that.
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 08:11 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: John McScratch at December 29, 2014 08:12 AM (y4bHB)
I have never understood why the alphabets thought they had to put Lying Al on the news 3 or 4 times a week. His only claim to fame was breaking the law and getting people killed.
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 08:13 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at December 29, 2014 08:18 AM (3ZtZW)
Thank God. I knew you had numb hands from it & was afraid you were going through it again when you wrote last week you couldn't type because of chemo.
The only long term problem I have from it is I can't eat chicken I used to eat it all the time.
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 08:18 AM (sj3Ax)
I haven't protested anything else.
But now I'm fighting mad.
How am I going to tell my daughter that the gov't has declared these things to be evil?
Why do I even want to live in a place that has gone this far into insanity??
http://moonbattery.com/?p=53788
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 29, 2014 08:19 AM (0xTsz)
I can type but I can't feel the keys very well so I miss getting the first or last letter in a lot of words.
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 08:20 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 08:22 AM (u9gzs)
he only form of protest in recorded history, where the site of the protest is cleaner at the end of the protest then prior to the arrival of the protestors.
Can you imagine if the Watts riots were conducted by Tea Party Protestors?
Property values in the area would have jumped 10% after the protests.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 08:22 AM (0Nyv4)
That's french, you know.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2014 08:23 AM (0Nyv4)
How am I going to tell my daughter that the gov't has declared these things to be evil?
Why do I even want to live in a place that has gone this far into insanity??
http://moonbattery.com/?p=53788
You can have my sprinkles when you pry them from my cold, dead hands!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2014 08:23 AM (mZLmb)
Posted by: Vic at December 29, 2014 08:24 AM (u9gzs)
Care for a game of lawn darts?
Posted by: Helix aspersa at December 29, 2014 08:24 AM (HKvMD)
Posted by: RoyL at December 29, 2014 08:24 AM (wdHQo)
"unstructive" (ie,"instructive")
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 29, 2014 08:34 AM (Dj3AB)
Posted by: AnnaS at December 29, 2014 08:39 AM (P+I7L)
I'm going to wait for CS to call me back
Posted by: Carol at December 29, 2014 08:45 AM (sj3Ax)
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