Early Morning Thread 12/27/14: Strother Martin edition. [krakatoa]

Apologies for a content-free thread. The post-gun show report has some unfinished business, and the ham recipes I promised are not ready either, as I cannot read my wife's handwriting.

The communication failure is most certainly my own fault; her elegant script too beauteous for heathern * eyes such as mine to ken.

* as we would say in "the Craig".**

** well honestly, as only one person would say, but it was so cute I had to steal it from her.

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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Sunday, December 28, 2014. On this day in 1869 William F. Semple patented chewing gum.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:27 AM (u9gzs)

2 The US Chamber of Commerce wants the GOP to pay back their help by opening the borders and giving business some tax breaks. Piss on them.

http://is.gd/4iUg8u

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:28 AM (u9gzs)

3 JEB Bush plans on releasing a bunch of e-mails from when he was Gov of FL. He thinks it will improve his chances of becoming President. I say no more Bushes.

http://is.gd/ykiSAb

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:28 AM (u9gzs)

4 Kim Jong Un calls Obama a monkey.

http://is.gd/woKEGn

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:28 AM (u9gzs)

5 Rick Perry is eyeing 2016 as well.

http://is.gd/JyE0Si

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:28 AM (u9gzs)

6 It's about time. A Ferguson protestor has been charged with arson for setting fire to a convenience store.

http://is.gd/JcK21O

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:29 AM (u9gzs)

7 Obama is courting Republicans for a free trade agreement that the Dems do not want.

http://is.gd/XKd7aj

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:29 AM (u9gzs)

8 The SS is blaming Bush for their failures. I note that all these failures occurred under Obama.

http://is.gd/tx5PdE

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:29 AM (u9gzs)

9 Egypt has banned the movie Exodus over what they call "historical inaccuracies".

http://is.gd/OXtFR2

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:29 AM (u9gzs)

10 A gang of three men broke into Castel Gadolfo and robbed it and assaulted the Mother Superior.

http://is.gd/P5FKFX

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:30 AM (u9gzs)

11 Aircraft diverted to Albuquerque after a black man began singling loudly and referenced Ferguson.

http://is.gd/IO09R3

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:30 AM (u9gzs)

12 Indiana is getting set to pass a religious freedom bill to protect religious people from militant gays.

http://is.gd/x3K6jw

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:30 AM (u9gzs)

13 Three card monte scam artists are back in NYC thanks to de Blasio.

http://is.gd/mGNkXH

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:31 AM (u9gzs)

14 The new Global Warming scare tactic straight out of the EPA. Yes we have idiots in charge of the EPA.

http://is.gd/hTuf0Z

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:31 AM (u9gzs)

15 The new crop of congressional Republicans plan to put the brakes on the EPA.

http://is.gd/L4vjKC

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:31 AM (u9gzs)

16 New research shows that raising cigarette taxes has no significant impact on discouraging smoking. No shit.

http://is.gd/vTWyTf

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:31 AM (u9gzs)

17 Another worthless poll touts JEB Bush.

http://is.gd/y191q4

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:32 AM (u9gzs)

18 Politicians are happy to buy votes with raises for city employees but someone has to pay the bills.

http://is.gd/AzSqYx

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:32 AM (u9gzs)

19 Both parties are planning a push next year to tax internet purchases.

http://is.gd/B0fMpG

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:32 AM (u9gzs)

20 Singapore Airlines has lost another aircraft.

http://is.gd/ZXiLdd

That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:33 AM (u9gzs)

21 Handwriting will go bad if all you do is type.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:33 AM (u9gzs)

22 I can see.
It's a miracle!

Welcome back Vic! Hope you're doing okay fellow seasoned individual.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 06:37 AM (jGqoT)

23 22 Welcome back Vic! Hope you're doing okay fellow seasoned individual.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 06:37 AM (jGqoT)

I was back yesterday, just didn't have any links.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:38 AM (u9gzs)

24 Thanks Vic! Early thread and early news. Who on earth hasn't heard of the three card monte scam?? Some guy lost several 100 dollars....

Posted by: Molly k. at December 28, 2014 06:40 AM (j8ieS)

25 Yeah, well, day late and a dollar short.
The more things change...

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 06:40 AM (jGqoT)

26 BTW, local governments don't tax the crap out of cigarettes to discourage smoking. They do it for the same reason they raise taxes on everything; money.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:40 AM (u9gzs)

27 My handwriting was illegible in high school. And tiny. I learned how to print fast in drafting which is all I do except for signing checks or other stuff. My wife made me learn how to type. The two finger pecking on a Selectric drove her crazy.

Posted by: Lester at December 28, 2014 06:40 AM (2UPXV)

28 Good Morning, thread.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 06:41 AM (vcADg)

29 Actually Vic it is AirAsia which is based out of Malaysia who lost an Airbus A320-219 that entered service in 2008.

162 passengers and crew aboard.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 28, 2014 06:42 AM (spNrX)

30 "
My handwriting was illegible in high school. And tiny. I learned how to
print fast in drafting which is all I do except for signing checks or
other stuff."

Ditto. Can't hand-write for shit. I'll make a pretty print for you though. It has to be the start-stop of printing that saves me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 06:43 AM (vcADg)

31 I should have said another airline in Singapore.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:46 AM (u9gzs)

32 It's going to be another miserable weather day here. Rainy and cold.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:48 AM (u9gzs)

33

DAY 782

681 to go (754 to Inauguration Day 2017)

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 28, 2014 06:49 AM (CMkNk)

34

Hey Vic! Glad to see you back!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 28, 2014 06:50 AM (CMkNk)

35 24
Thanks Vic! Early thread and early news. Who on earth hasn't heard of
the three card monte scam?? Some guy lost several 100 dollars....

Posted by: Molly k. at December 28, 2014 06:40 AM (j8ieS)

de Blasio is going to be a disaster for NYC.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:50 AM (u9gzs)

36 Good morning everyone! And good morning to you Vic, I am glad to see that you are back to work!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2014 06:50 AM (60Vyp)

37 27 Posted by: Lester at December 28, 2014 06:40 AM (2UPXV)

I had atrocious writing well into my 20's, much to the consternation of my artist dad, who had impeccable penmanship. He actually re-taught me how to write. It's much better except when I'm in a rush.

Thanks, dad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 28, 2014 06:51 AM (CMkNk)

38 Supposed to see sunshine here today but it is a tad bit chilly. 18 degrees right now.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 06:51 AM (jGqoT)

39 Morning, COJ.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 06:52 AM (vcADg)

40 Apologies for a content-free thread.

Since when does that require an apology around here?

Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 06:53 AM (sdi6R)

41 It's 54F and raining here.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 06:53 AM (u9gzs)

42
As to polling, a) we're a year away and b) polls are meant to influence public opinion, not reflect it.

First viable as-conservative-as-possible candidate should be backed to the hilt to snuff out the GOP-e.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 28, 2014 06:54 AM (CMkNk)

43 "Since when does that require an apology around here?"

No kidding. Did we start apologizing around here...?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 06:57 AM (vcADg)

44 The GOPe is doing everything they can to ensure we get another RINO. I have voted for my last RINO, I say no more. The GOPe can go straight to Hell and do not pass GO.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 07:01 AM (u9gzs)

45 I am so glad Vic is back. Thank you, Vic, for your news. We missed you and we were worried! I would also like to thank J.J. Both of you contribute so much.

Posted by: Chilling the most at December 28, 2014 07:01 AM (wWs6x)

46 First viable as-conservative-as-possible candidate should be backed to the hilt to snuff out the GOP-e.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 28, 2014 06:54 AM

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. You funny man, J.J.

It's Jeb's Turn to lose to a worthless, unqualified America-hating Democrat candidate with a sanitized history in '16. Dubya says so!

Hell, I'm betting Bush III can get Great Americans like Rube-io and Fuckabee to unite behind his candidacy. Who could ask for more?

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 28, 2014 07:02 AM (yAC3X)

47 Cold rain with a high of 42 today in my part of Texas. I gave the ducks the day off.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 28, 2014 07:04 AM (iCLff)

48 "I say no more."

Agree. Romney was the last one. Thinking I was helping the country from itself.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:04 AM (vcADg)

49 If they hand me another GOPe global statist to vote for I'm writing in Palin/West.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 07:05 AM (jGqoT)

50 Unless the GOP fixes the shitty primary schedule we will get nothing but RINOs nominated by liberal blue States. And that is the way they want it.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 07:06 AM (u9gzs)

51 " And that is the way they want it."

As I understood it, and I could be all wet, several Southern states including Texas were moving their primaries to March 1. No?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:08 AM (vcADg)

52 @51- RK

Seems I saw folks here talking about that a few days ago.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 07:10 AM (jGqoT)

53 51 As I understood it, and I could be all wet, several Southern states including Texas were moving their primaries to March 1. No?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:08 AM (vcADg)

That is an exercise in futility. When one State moves its primary up they all follow suit. The date of the SC primary is set by the legislature which is Republican controlled. I think they actually moved it all the way up to Feb last time.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 07:11 AM (u9gzs)

54 39>> Morning RK! Might try to get out your way today and shoot some clays.

If the GOPe foists another helping of RINO on us for 2016, I'll just vote local and ignore the national ballot. And I'm damn sure not giving them any money.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2014 07:14 AM (60Vyp)

55 Well, then what? I believe the idea is to try to start influencing the nomination process earlier than times past. Not letting Iowa and NH have the control they have had until now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:16 AM (vcADg)

56 I suspect the only way we'll ever see Moron-friendly candidates for major offices is to have a third party rise up and establish a haven for conservatives.

Yeah, yeah, I know Teh Great Pundits have already decreed that such a thing would be futile, that we must all bend over and take whatever barely-disguised liberal the GOPe wants to foist on us.

So '16 will give us what I think of as the Soviet Choice: vote for a Democrat, or be truly rebellious and vote for a Democrat.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 28, 2014 07:18 AM (yAC3X)

57 The head of the SC Republican Party has already said the 2016 primary will likely be in Feb.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 07:19 AM (u9gzs)

58 He actually re-taught me how to write. It's much better except when I'm in a rush.

Thanks, dad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 28, 2014 06:51 AMH

My dad's scribbling was worse than mine. The bank finally got used to his illegible checks but only because they could read the numbers. And he wrote everything on the back of discarded envelopes. And he hated telephones. If you wanted to talk to him you had to go see him.

Posted by: Lester at December 28, 2014 07:20 AM (2UPXV)

59 You know what really sux?
Waking up on a Saturday, to find out that your refrigerator has shit the bed.

You know what's great?
Finding a Lowes that can deliver a new refrigerator on a Sunday, at 11:30am.

Yeah us!

Oh...
And G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2014 07:22 AM (0Nyv4)

60 You know, it's almost like there are a number of people conspiring,,, and contributing,,, to see to it that we only have all powerful central govt statists in office.
Nah, that's just idiot, crazy talk.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 07:23 AM (jGqoT)

61 " is to have a third party rise up and establish a haven for conservatives."

The thing about third parties, they work in parliamentary systems. Pluralities, coalitions, etc. We don't really have that in our federal system.

Now, this doesn't mean we endeavour for one and face many an election in pain.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:25 AM (vcADg)

62 @59

Hehehehe.

What was the old one and what is the new one?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:27 AM (vcADg)

63 45 I am so glad Vic is back. Thank you, Vic, for your news. We missed you and we were worried! I would also like to thank J.J. Both of you contribute so much.
Posted by: Chilling the most at December 28, 2014 07:01 AM (wWs6x)

Vic brings the hard-hitting news. I just kvetch, kibitz and kaffee-klatch.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 28, 2014 07:27 AM (CMkNk)

64 So, we endeavour to persevere then?

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 07:28 AM (jGqoT)

65
The party and the personalities can do whatever they want. In theory it's the people that actually cast the votes. Cheating and stupid people notwithstanding.

(**cue Mr. Scribbler to howl with laughter and castigate me**)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 28, 2014 07:29 AM (CMkNk)

66 "So, we endeavour to persevere then?"

Yes, and the candy is not for eating. Just for looking through.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:29 AM (vcADg)

67 "What was the old one and what is the new one? "

Old one was a ten year old GE Profile.
We did all the kitchen appliances in Profile when we bought the house.
In the ten years since, the Over Range Microwave has died three times, and still overheats if you use it more then ten minutes.
The Dishwasher rattles, and vibrates.
And the Fridge, whose crisper drawers have never stayed on the rails since the original purchase just gave up the ghost.
Didin't even call a repair shop. Just said "Time for you to go".
New unit is a rather simple Samsung, without any water/ice dispenser systems.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2014 07:32 AM (0Nyv4)

68 55 Well, then what? I believe the idea is to try to start influencing the nomination process earlier than times past. Not letting Iowa and NH have the control they have had until now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:16

IIRC, Nat'l party rules no states can have primary before March 6. Back in 2011 Missouri state law was for primary to be held in Feb. The state senate couldn't pass a bill to change the law so MO repub's went with caucus system that wasn't done until June or July. If MO had stayed with Feb. primary they would have lost half their delegates. Seems fcuk'd up to me.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 28, 2014 07:33 AM (6hrmc)

69 Kvetching, kibitzing and kaffee-klatching are also important in the grand scheme of things.
At least if they mean what I think they mean. Well, the last two any way.
Kvetching? I haven't a clue.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 07:34 AM (jGqoT)

70 69 Kvetching? I haven't a clue.
Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 07:34 AM (jGqoT

Kvetch is Yiddish for complain. But it's more colorful.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 28, 2014 07:35 AM (CMkNk)

71 That's sorta an indictment, VIA.

Good luck with the new. I find Sammie stuff to be pretty good.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:37 AM (vcADg)

72 Thanks J.J.
'Cept now I've already learned my one new thing today.
May as well go back to bed.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 07:39 AM (jGqoT)

73 " If MO had stayed with Feb. primary they would have lost half their delegates"

Now, now, seems that's a part of it. I don't know all the details on that. But, there are party rules to that effect.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:39 AM (vcADg)

74 Sears used to have a good refrigerator but they switched suppliers and the new ones aren't WAS. My brother went through two of them back to back before giving up a couple of years ago. Mine is about 20 years old now and still going strong. I would be scared to go buy a new one now.

The fact is when I bought my washer and dryer last time and did some research I saw a lot of comments that no American appliances were any good now.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 07:42 AM (u9gzs)

75 "Kvetching, kibitzing and kaffee-klatching"

JJ, Never, school me here.

Kvetching is....well.....vomiting.

Kibitzing is........living, eating together.

Kaffee-klatching? No idea.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:42 AM (vcADg)

76 My font is the sarcasm font.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 28, 2014 07:44 AM (0xTsz)

77 "That's sorta an indictment, VIA. "

Yup.

At the time of purchase, even Consumer Reports spoke well of the Profile line of appliances.
But...it seems that the 3-6 year reliability figures were not yet available.

Now, most of the comments are that they suffer from a very short life span.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2014 07:44 AM (0Nyv4)

78 J.J. Sefton: "Vic brings the hard-hitting news. I just kvetch, kibitz and kaffee-klatch."

and kountdown.

News and entertainment features! Yay morning threads!

Morning, Glories! Cold and dark in my corner of the world. feels like December, oddly enough.

Posted by: mindful webworker in Winter at December 28, 2014 07:45 AM (pQplJ)

79 One other thing on American appliances. There are only 2 or 3 manufacturers still making them.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 07:46 AM (u9gzs)

80 " I would be scared to go buy a new one now."

Got a 20 year Maytag refrigerator now. Works fine and I'm shit about cleaning the coils. Similarly old GE and Hotpoint washer and dryer. Tore the dryer down a few years ago and replaced the motor. We came up a few screws extra and never figured out where they went. Works fine still.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:47 AM (vcADg)

81 Interestingly, Mrs VIAs late Great-Aunts small refrigerator, built in about 1956 is still chugging away in her home, which was built in the same year.

I have seen running units of that age going for near $3,000.00, due to the retro-look, and the people who seek it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2014 07:47 AM (0Nyv4)

82 Good morning all. Nice to see you back Vic.

The fact is when I bought my washer and dryer last
time and did some research I saw a lot of comments that no American
appliances were any good now.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 07:42 AM (u9gzs)This may be true but the boss's wife has an LG washing machine. Takes the repairman two weeks to get parts (from Korea I think). Hard to believe in today's world.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 28, 2014 07:47 AM (8ufJT)

83 the idea is to try to start influencing the nomination process earlier than times past. Not letting Iowa and NH have the control they have had until now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:16

73 " If MO had stayed with Feb. primary they would have lost half their delegates"

Now, now, seems that's a part of it. I don't know all the details on that. But, there are party rules to that effect.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:39

RK, just how do those party rules reconcile with your earlier comment that party is trying to influence early primaries? Losing half your delegates if you go ahead one of 3 chosen states sounds like punishment not encouragement.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 28, 2014 07:50 AM (6hrmc)

84 And our Amana fridge will be on its 21st year come March.

*knocks on wood*

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 28, 2014 07:50 AM (8ufJT)

85 Mom had Fridgidaire stuff. Lasted the entire time I was growing up. And those few times we could afford a pot roast, what she could do to one in the deep well on the stove.
Guess it was kinda like a crock pot before there were crock pots.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 07:52 AM (jGqoT)

86 *wheh* saved from the barrel by tags in my nic.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 28, 2014 07:53 AM (6hrmc)

87 "Losing half your delegates if you go ahead one of 3 chosen states sounds like punishment not encouragement."

That is a problem. Does the public sentiment trump the money and influence?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 07:55 AM (vcADg)

88 Trying to load the main page here or at WZ, I get a full screen pop up fishing for my YouTube password. Just me or is anyone else seeing this?

Posted by: mindful webworker - sumpin phishy at December 28, 2014 07:55 AM (tHAoL)

89 >>At the time of purchase, even Consumer Reports spoke well of the Profile line of appliances. But...it seems that the 3-6 year reliability figures were not yet available.

CR just doesn't give a crap about long term anything, as near as I can tell.

I had a subscription to their site for a long time, but it was the same thing again and again: they would rate something high and the comments would be full of reports of very low reliability.

>>New unit is a rather simple Samsung, without any water/ice dispenser systems.

Did you read the reviews at Lowe's site? There was one brand, and it may have been Samsung, that had people complaining about how hard it was to get it repaired. Can't remember fer shurr, but I slowly backed away from it.

I wanted a water dispenser without the ice, since that takes up so much room. There were a couple, but they weren't what we wanted in other ways. Got one that doesn't take up half the fridge, though.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 28, 2014 07:56 AM (0xTsz)

90 I'll chime in with a welcome back also Vic.

That is all.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at December 28, 2014 07:59 AM (zLOJ1)

91 Not seeing it on my fone mindful though WZ never seems to quit flashing like it's still loading.
Then again, I don't have a u tube password.
And no, I'm not gonna suggest anyone go there and search True North - Almost Tried if you haven't heard it.

Do you want it on your tombstone, you almost tried?

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 08:01 AM (jGqoT)

92 >> Just me or is anyone else seeing this?

Not me. Both load fine.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 28, 2014 08:01 AM (0xTsz)

93 "complaining about how hard it was to get it repaired"

So many new brands are run off a board. Repairmen buy boards, try replacing a board, doesn't fix the problem. They've taken the board out of the package and, then, they can't return the board. $100-200 for the board.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 08:02 AM (vcADg)

94 59 You know what really sux?
Waking up on a Saturday, to find out that your refrigerator has shit the bed.

You know what's great?
Finding a Lowes that can deliver a new refrigerator on a Sunday, at 11:30am.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2014 07:22 AM (0Nyv4)

Don't worry. We'll fix that.

Posted by: The Commissar of Appliances at December 28, 2014 08:03 AM (sdi6R)

95 I am not having a problem with WZ.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 08:04 AM (u9gzs)

96 Twenty! It's twenty degrees F it says here! No wonder the furnace keeps cooking.

We just had several near-60° days. I don't mind the cold - I survived fourteen winters in Chicago - as much as I mind the wild variation. Unfortunately, "wild weather variations" is the Oklahoma state motto.

Posted by: mindful webworker - likes warmth at December 28, 2014 08:06 AM (tHAoL)

97 "wild weather variations"

Don't send that shit down here.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 08:08 AM (vcADg)

98 So the YouTube fishing is just me? Weird. Still dont trust it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - hmmm at December 28, 2014 08:08 AM (tHAoL)

99 Well that was weird.
Fone went from looking like I had about 50% charge to almost dead in the blink of an eye so I gotta git.

Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 28, 2014 08:10 AM (UXHfL)

100 >> Unfortunately, "wild weather variations" is the Oklahoma state motto.

Ours is "lots of weather variations that all involve high humidity or actual rain".

Louisiana--the Soggy State

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 28, 2014 08:11 AM (0xTsz)

101 Holy crap
It's 65 degrees out here!!!!
I have to run to car heater just to survive

Anywho, I hope da bears don't screw up and win today
If they get the 7th pick they can get the safety from Alabama

Posted by: Navycopjoe got 2 Kimbers for Xmas at December 28, 2014 08:14 AM (/88SZ)

102 81 Interestingly, Mrs VIAs late Great-Aunts small refrigerator, built in about 1956 is still chugging away in her home, which was built in the same year.

I have seen running units of that age going for near $3,000.00, due to the retro-look, and the people who seek it.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2014 07:47 AM (0Nyv4)

When I was in college in the late 70s, our suite had an old 50's refrigerator.

It had a tiny freezer and the door handle had broken off, but you could still use it like a bottle opener to open the door.

I hated having to throw it out at the end of the semester, because it still worked fine.

Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 08:15 AM (sdi6R)

103 Cursive is no longer being taught in school - because nothing above what used to be 3rd grade level is being taught by the "education" system. This is not an accident.

Ignorant people are much easier to control. All a part of fundamentally changing America.

Posted by: An Observation at December 28, 2014 08:17 AM (ylhEn)

104 I grew up in schools that still taught old-fashioned penmanship. I was terrible at cursive. Wondered, what is it about the girls that they can have such pretty hand?

As a grown-up, and a would-be cartoonist, I managed to improve my writing greatly, but if I get to writing to hastily - thoughts overrunning hand - it reverts to my fourth-grade scrawl.

Vic is right (of course) about keeping your hand in. Handwriting's a different frame of mind than typing, too. I spent several years writing each morning in a journal. Why ever did I quit? Oh, yeah.. I got the habit of reading some blog's morning threads....

Posted by: mindful webworker - on topic at December 28, 2014 08:18 AM (tHAoL)

105 the deep well on the stove.

Guess it was kinda like a crock pot before there were crock pots.

My father's aunt had one of those. As a kid, I was fascinated by it. She made soups and stews in it. Wouldn't mind having one now.

Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 08:18 AM (l7hog)

106 "So many new brands are run off a board. Repairmen
buy boards, try replacing a board, doesn't fix the problem. They've
taken the board out of the package and, then, they can't return the
board. $100-200 for the board.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2014 08:02 AM (vcADg)"

I had a Bosch dishwasher that I bought to replace the rusted old one that came with the house. After about 5 years it died and the appliance repairman said it would need a new board. The price of the Bosch replacement board was more than it cost me for a brand new Whirlpool dishwasher which was the second cheapest dishwasher at Lowes. The new Whirlpool dishwasher is almost as quiet as the Bosch, cleans the dishes just as well, has more convenient controls and less irksome dish racks and cost about a third of what the Bosch did.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 28, 2014 08:22 AM (PD6iL)

107 104
Wondered, what is it about the girls that they can have such pretty hand?

Posted by: mindful webworker - on topic at December 28, 2014 08:18 AM (tHAoL)

Yeah, I can always tell girls' handwriting.

Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 08:23 AM (sdi6R)

108 1
Good Morning Morons. Today is Sunday, December 28, 2014. On this day in 1869 William F. Semple patented chewing gum.

Posted by: Vic

Sidewalks and the undersides of everything have never been the same since.

Posted by: Gmac- Pondering...something... at December 28, 2014 08:26 AM (baiNQ)

109 "100
>> Unfortunately, "wild weather variations" is the Oklahoma state motto.

Ours is "lots of weather variations that all involve high humidity or actual rain".

Louisiana--the Soggy State

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 28, 2014 08:11 AM (0xTsz)"

I have been told that the Texas motto is, "Don't like the weather? Wait five minutes." But I think that, at least in North Texas, the motto is, "Pity the people who have to wait all year to get four seasons. We will get that in a week."

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 28, 2014 08:26 AM (PD6iL)

110 >>brand new Whirlpool dishwasher which was the second cheapest dishwasher at Lowes

I need a new one.

Was puzzled when looking at Lowe's site..some of them seem to run for a looong time. The "quick" setting is over an hour??

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 28, 2014 08:28 AM (0xTsz)

111 Being at heart a child of the 19th Century, I had pretty decent flowing script as a kid and loved writing and drawing with crow quill dip pens. But the cartoonist/drafter instinct drove me to printing instead of cursive and that's pretty much all I can take notes in now.

I bought a pack of Spencerian penmanship practice books and I intend to get my handwriting back to splendiferous -- or at least legible -- form.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 08:29 AM (KH1sk)

112 >>"Pity the people who have to wait all year to get four seasons. We will get that in a week."

Wow, you get four? We're so poor we only get 3. And they're all uphill...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 28, 2014 08:30 AM (0xTsz)

113 Wondered, what is it about the girls that they can have such pretty hand?
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You remember when you were outside taking potshots at squirrels with a slingshot?...., they were busy doing civilized things.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 28, 2014 08:33 AM (U93Mr)

114 Obnoxious A-Hole: "I have been told that the Texas motto is, 'Don't like the weather? Wait five minutes.'"

That was Will Rogers, and he was talking about Oklahoma.

Poor Texans. Had to steal from Oklahoma - how pathetic is that?

Posted by: mindful webworker - never met a man Will Rogers wouldn't like at December 28, 2014 08:37 AM (tHAoL)

115 I have copies of letters written to family members back in the 1840's.

The penmanship is excellent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 28, 2014 08:39 AM (U93Mr)

116 I recently attended a real estate settlement. On one loan document the buyers were told they needed to print their names legibly, then sign legibly, and the name in print had to look different from the signature, but both had to be legible. Yeah, that's going to be a problem for a lot of people.

Posted by: biancaneve at December 28, 2014 08:39 AM (AJaBe)

117 My father was a southpaw and he had a nice hand. Now I think about it all the southpaws I've known have a nice hand. A bit surprising when you think about the awkward way they have to hold their hands to write.

I bought a pack of Spencerian penmanship practice
books and I intend to get my handwriting back to splendiferous -- or at
least legible -- form.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 08:29 AM (KH1sk)
Thomas Jefferson's penmanship is what I aspire to. Look up his hand written Declaration of Independence, or some of his letters. Nice, clear script, easy to read, small to conserve expensive paper.

Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 08:42 AM (l7hog)

118 All of which raises the perennial question, how do pharmacists ever manage to read prescriptions?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 28, 2014 08:42 AM (U93Mr)

119 Was puzzled when looking at Lowe's site..some of them seem to run for a looong time. The "quick" setting is over an hour??

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 28, 2014 08:28 AM (0xTsz)

When they know you can't buy dishwasher detergent that actually gets the dishes clean. the manufacturers make up for it with rinse time!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 28, 2014 08:45 AM (fL/7/)

120 I'm having sweet potato pecan pancakes with maple syrup. Just dropping some food porn for your Sunday morning delectation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 08:45 AM (KH1sk)

121 My cursive writing got kind of sloppy. I noticed that when I was taking notes in college classes.

So I made a decision to start printing upper and lower case letters. I reasoned that handwriting is meant to communicate, so I determined that mine should be readable.

Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 08:46 AM (sdi6R)

122 Best place to find good ham?

Either side of a hog's ass! Monin' rons. making Venison tamales today.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at December 28, 2014 08:47 AM (uSAVP)

123 Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 08:42 AM (l7hog)

My father's penmanship was beautiful and elegant.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 28, 2014 08:47 AM (fL/7/)

124 Our LG fridge has never given us a problem. Must be five years old or more. fyi

Posted by: mindful webworker - never met a man Will Rogers wouldn't like at December 28, 2014 08:48 AM (tHAoL)

125 Narcissistic pseudo-scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson spent Christmas childishly trolling Christians on Twitter.

http://tinyurl.com/lbyvmc4

Posted by: Foul Harold at December 28, 2014 08:49 AM (Uj/f4)

126 My favorite Texas weather line ......

Does the wind in Texas always blow this way? Nope. Sometimes it blows the other way.

Posted by: RustyG at December 28, 2014 08:49 AM (34Xjk)

127 My handwriting was never pretty but it was legible, something appreciated by the ladies in the typing pool. (This was a while back.) Now that I don't have deadlines, I can enjoy the process of writing script. Fountain pens or dip pens, good bottled ink and taking my time. It's still not artistic but not bad and the physical process is pleasant. I'm also getting persnickety about paper. Definitely worth the 'trouble' and time. My typing sucks anyway.

Being about Vic's age, I was damn good pressing cuniform into my clay tablets.

Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2014 08:50 AM (FvdPb)

128 Thomas Jefferson really didn't have that good of a handwriting. What you see on the DOI was done by a professional writer named Timothy Matlack,

http://is.gd/hbXgvJ

http://is.gd/OrLBtt

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 08:52 AM (u9gzs)

129 Thomas Jefferson's penmanship is what I aspire to. Look up his hand written Declaration of Independence, or some of his letters. Nice, clear script, easy to read, small to conserve expensive paper.
Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 08:42 AM (l7hog)
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I did! His looks so spare and elegant it seems modern. Not like that lace wigged fop Hancock's!

Mine looks more like Teddy Roosevelt's small, crabbed scratchings, with added cartoons. Presidential, yes, but...

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 08:52 AM (KH1sk)

130 I'll bet Bob Cratchit had good handwriting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 28, 2014 08:56 AM (U93Mr)

131 47 Cold rain with a high of 42 today in my part of Texas. I gave the ducks the day off.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 28, 2014 07:04 AM (iCLff)

48 and grey here on SE Texas coast. How has your season gone? We haven't sniffed a good day since teal season.

Posted by: RustyG at December 28, 2014 08:56 AM (34Xjk)

132 Being about Vic's age, I was damn good pressing cuniform into my clay tablets.

Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2014 08:50 AM (FvdPb)

But, you should see Vic's chisel work if you really want to be impressed!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 28, 2014 08:59 AM (fL/7/)

133 Heh. http://is.gd/MGJoZB

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 28, 2014 09:00 AM (rwI+c)

134

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 28, 2014 09:00 AM (fL/7/)

135 But, you should see Vic's chisel work if you really want to be impressed!
Posted by: Hrothgar
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No doubt, but have you seen his cave drawings?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 28, 2014 09:02 AM (U93Mr)

136 127 My handwriting was never pretty but it was legible, something appreciated by the ladies in the typing pool.

Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2014 08:50 AM (FvdPb)

When my dad was released from the hospital (years ago) I took notes from what the nurse was telling me.

She saw them and exclaimed that my handwriting looked like a woman's. She meant it as a compliment and I took it as such.

Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 09:04 AM (sdi6R)

137 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2014 09:05 AM (KCxzN)

138 127>> I think writing by hand in permanent ink, on paper that was scarce and fairly expensive drove a lot of people to thoughtfully consider what they were going to say, and arrange their thoughts in writing cohesively. Writing legibly would be an imperative.

As opposed to just typing a screed on a keyboard like so many of our 'elites' do today.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2014 09:05 AM (60Vyp)

139 No doubt, but have you seen his cave drawings?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 28, 2014 09:02 AM (U93Mr)

No, but I understand the colors are simply fabulous!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 28, 2014 09:10 AM (fL/7/)

140 Vic, I'll respond to your examples with this:

http://tinyurl.com/oxn8opu

It isn't the best sample of his hand I've seen but I like it. The sentiment expressed has something to with it, too.

Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 09:12 AM (l7hog)

141 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2014 09:05 AM (60Vyp)

I dusted off and cleaned the old Waterman fountain pen and used it to write the few Christmas cards I sent this year. My penmanship needs a lot of work, but it was legible and I felt that the handwritten word would be so much more personal than that from my dot matrix printer.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 28, 2014 09:14 AM (fL/7/)

142 140 It isn't the best sample of his hand I've seen but I like it. The sentiment expressed has something to with it, too.

Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 09:12 AM (l7hog)

That looks like the same example I used.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 09:14 AM (u9gzs)

143 My handwriting is every bit as good as my sewing skills.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 28, 2014 09:16 AM (U93Mr)

144 Here's a nice one:

http://tinyurl.com/lo7tju4

I asked Santa for this. He may yet come through for me. I'd practice penmanship every day if I had this.

http://dave-beach.tripod.com/thomas_jefferson_lap_desk.htm

Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 09:16 AM (l7hog)

145 Writing legibly would be an imperative.
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As was spelling. No dictionaries at hand.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 28, 2014 09:17 AM (U93Mr)

146 A disabled friend at work asked my to write a note on the inside of a book he was giving as a gift. The youngsters in the office were amazed at my ability to write such pretty script (it wasn't that pretty). That's kind of disheartening.

On the upside, these kids can really type. I remember when it was a point of pride for men to NOT know how to type. I was often asked to type papers; maybe I took it as a point of pride to only hunt and peck. These days they get those fast twitch muscles trained right outta the womb.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 09:21 AM (KH1sk)

147 Book thread is up.

Posted by: mindful webworker - clarion at December 28, 2014 09:25 AM (tHAoL)

148 This is interesting. They've discovered what happened to the lost colony of Roanoke. DNA testing has confirmed the remains of Virginia Dare.

http://tinyurl.com/ntbl4xe

Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 09:26 AM (l7hog)

149 Retread, I have something similar. It really works and has an influence on your script. Besides, they just look so cool.

Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2014 09:27 AM (FvdPb)

150 JTB, I have better uses for that kind of money but....I just want it.

Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 09:32 AM (l7hog)

151 Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 09:26 AM (l7hog)
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But...but...slavery was introduced to the New World by Europeans!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 09:33 AM (KH1sk)

152 Yeah, and noble savages never killed more than they could eat.

Posted by: Retread at December 28, 2014 09:48 AM (l7hog)

153 26 BTW, local governments don't tax the crap out of cigarettes to discourage smoking. They do it for the same reason they raise taxes on everything; money.

Next you're going to tell us that speed limits aren't there for our safety.

Posted by: despair at December 28, 2014 09:49 AM (dcY7v)

154 "de Blasio is going to be a disaster for NYC."

Every 25 years or so they lose their minds and it's "Festival! Festival!"

Posted by: despair at December 28, 2014 09:52 AM (dcY7v)

155 153 Next you're going to tell us that speed limits aren't there for our safety.

Posted by: despair at December 28, 2014 09:49 AM (dcY7v)

They aren't here in my little hick town. They are also revenue builders.

Posted by: Vic at December 28, 2014 09:53 AM (u9gzs)

156 Every 25 years or so they lose their minds and it's "Festival! Festival!"

You are not of the body.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 28, 2014 09:59 AM (rwI+c)

157 27
My handwriting was illegible in high school. And tiny. I learned how to
print fast in drafting which is all I do except for signing checks or
other stuff. My wife made me learn how to type. The two finger pecking
on a Selectric drove her crazy.

My handwriting was illegible until fairly recently, when my Russian professor made me practice a lot of Cyrillic cursive. Now my handwriting is good, but I make the most amazing typos (handwritingographic errors?) if my attention wanders.

In school, I took to printing when I got involved with computing, so I still mostly print.

Posted by: Anachronda at December 28, 2014 09:59 AM (coJ1L)

158 Every 25 years or so they lose their minds and it's "Festival! Festival!"

Carousel! Carousel!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 10:07 AM (KH1sk)

159 146
On the upside, these kids can really type. I remember when it was a point of pride for men to NOT know how to type. I was often asked to type papers; maybe I took it as a point of pride to only hunt and peck. These days they get those fast twitch muscles trained right outta the womb.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 09:21 AM (KH1sk)

Yeah, I'm probably of the last generation of men who did not learn typing in high school.

Back then, only girls took typing, because it was assumed that they would become secretaries.

Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 10:10 AM (sdi6R)

160 "Mine is about 20 years old now and still going strong. I would be scared to go buy a new one now."

My old fridge (Kitchen Aide) was dying a couple of years ago after 21 years of use. I replaced it with a Samsung, bigger and with an ice maker. I told the salesman I'm set for another 20 years. He laughed at me.

Posted by: despair at December 28, 2014 10:14 AM (dcY7v)

161 Back then, only girls took typing, because it was assumed that they would become secretaries.
Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2014 10:10 AM (sdi6R)
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Everyone had to take typing in my high school, because everyone had to type papers. Unfortunately typing never took to me.

Had to take typing in tech school too. My friend and I were the last to graduate from our typing class. My friend was so bad, with his stiff clawed typing style, that they had to lower the standards just to let him leave for his next duty station.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 10:18 AM (KH1sk)

162 FWIW, my sainted mother said, son you should take typing. Another case where I regret not following her advice. Besides all the hot wimmenz were in the typing class.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 28, 2014 10:35 AM (fL/7/)

163 Early resolutions: No flying on AirAsia and no watching Neil deGrasse Tyson shows. I like flying and I like science but that pair of "no's" have me a little worried.

Posted by: goon at December 28, 2014 11:12 AM (gNTQS)

164 deGrasse Tyson did do a very good Nova episode on Clyde Tombaugh. He showed real respect and was touched by how much this farm kid accomplished with his homemade telescope.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 28, 2014 11:19 AM (KH1sk)

165 @116 - if it is legible it is not my signature.

Good to see Vic back in harness.

Posted by: JEM at December 28, 2014 11:25 AM (K6Ziy)

166 @161 - I was never a good typing student but a decade of writing code turned me into a demon fast one.

I find phones like the one I'm pecking at now frustrating because this whole message would have been done in 1/20 the time on a real keyboard.

Posted by: JEM at December 28, 2014 11:28 AM (K6Ziy)

167 Greetings:

Having spent 30 some odd years in what's loosely referred to as the printing industry, don't get me started on people who think they know something about typography.

First of all, legibility is the typographer's primary responsibility to the reader.

Posted by: 11B40 at December 28, 2014 12:19 PM (evgyj)

168 Gee, not too many people know who Strother Martin was. A great character actor. Could look down right disreputable.
My handwriting is terrible, and getting worse with the advent of the computer. While in college my College Advisor, Prof Henry Wisser, once said of my writing in a Blue Book (don't you know what the is either?) it was like an epileptic rooster going across a sandy barnyard. That was 50 yrs ago. Imagine what my writing is like now!

Posted by: lynn at December 28, 2014 01:20 PM (AjrEe)

169 The house we bought had a HUGE restaurant grade Kitchenaid fridge/freezer. Woud have cost us five grand to replace. ONE chip died and naturally it was the ONE chip they couldn't replace any more.

Ended up buying a smaller one for under two grand and we'll add shelving in the leftover space.

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170 Escort girls http://REGMODELS.RU

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