Early Morning Thread, 12/27/14

Early Morning Thread, 12/27/14 - Ham. [krakatoa]

So on Christmas morning, I mentioned the ham that went on the smoker.

We've done some good ones before. But this was possibly the best thing I've ever done with a pig.

8 days in a cure my wife created called "Gingerbread".

1 day in a water bath (with the water refreshed twice).

3 hours in the smoker at 225 with a steady diet of cherry wood chunks.

1 hour rest, then an hour in the oven @ 325 with a simple raspberry/ginger glaze applied in 3 coats.

I only wish we'd bought a bigger ham. I will not make that mistake again.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:34 AM

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1 Morning 'rons and ettes.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 27, 2014 07:31 AM (8ufJT)

2 I cooked ham yesterday but it looked nothing like that.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 27, 2014 07:32 AM (8ufJT)

3 Looks damn tasty.

Posted by: HH at December 27, 2014 07:32 AM (Ce4DF)

4 Oh, pretty.

I can almost taste it.

Did you buy a special kind of ham, or just take an ordinary one and transform it into something wonderful?

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 07:32 AM (0xTsz)

5

DAY 781

682 to go (755 to Inauguration Day 2017)

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2014 07:36 AM (CMkNk)

6
Is it kosher?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2014 07:36 AM (CMkNk)

7 That's a fine looking ham. Maybe the best I've ever seen.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 07:40 AM (WHIPH)

8 *licks monitor*

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 07:42 AM (sdi6R)

9 So krak, do you deliver?

Posted by: HH at December 27, 2014 07:42 AM (Ce4DF)

Posted by: scif at December 27, 2014 07:43 AM (t+ssG)

11 Nothing like US raised Wild Boar or Pig and there are 1 pig for every man woman and child in the country about 350 million at all times.
If you have not harvested a wild one try it..The muscle looks like beef, a rich red color.
And if your ever in Statesville, NC, check out 3 little pigs BBQ.

Posted by: Corky at December 27, 2014 07:43 AM (/WmRg)

12 rickl for the win

Posted by: Tmitsss at December 27, 2014 07:44 AM (Pa9vP)

13 >>Is it kosher?

Ummm...

How could it not be?

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 07:44 AM (0xTsz)

14 "Is it kosher?
"

He gave it a bath.
what?

Posted by: scif at December 27, 2014 07:45 AM (t+ssG)

15 Was a fresh ham. Which is surprisingly hard to find.

Posted by: krakatoa at December 27, 2014 07:48 AM (eCtnP)

16 >>Was a fresh ham. Which is surprisingly hard to find.

Not around this blog...

*rimshot*

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 07:50 AM (0xTsz)

17 Are there any leftovers?

Where do you live? We'll be right over .....

Posted by: dissent555 at December 27, 2014 07:51 AM (yR6A1)

18 14 He gave it a bath.
what?

Posted by: scif at December 27, 2014 07:45 AM (t+ssG)

Mikvah glazed ham. Now THAT is an idea whose time has come!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2014 07:52 AM (CMkNk)

19 In keeping with today's theme, here's a link or two from the Free Bacon.

Underachiever of the Year is an elderly woman with a walker:

http://tinyurl.com/lo3nn8w

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 07:53 AM (0xTsz)

20 Well, linking to news at the WFB would have worked better if they had any news up.

Chinese flew a plane:

http://tinyurl.com/mkhwukp

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 07:57 AM (0xTsz)

21 In other bacon news:

>>An Ashland woman accused of walking onto the Framingham Police Department and throwing sausage and bacon says God told her to go "feed the pigs."

...

>>"It's clear she may need help," Wareham said.

Well, who hasn't heard that?

http://tinyurl.com/obcpa8c

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 07:58 AM (0xTsz)

22 Krak, what were the side dishes?

Posted by: m at December 27, 2014 07:59 AM (G891H)

23 " ... from the Free Bacon."

Now, THIS has potential.

Posted by: dissent555 at December 27, 2014 08:00 AM (yR6A1)

24 Hillary story is funny. It's a little odd (or maybe not) how little buzz she generates.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:03 AM (WHIPH)

25 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 27, 2014 08:03 AM (u82oZ)

26 Throwing sausage and bacon at the police to 'feed the pigs' is cannibalism, isn't it?

Posted by: Retread at December 27, 2014 08:04 AM (l7hog)

27
Underachiever of the Year is an elderly woman with a walker.

Death Warmed Over!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 27, 2014 08:04 AM (EPaen)

28 Go Hokies!

Posted by: Zuke at December 27, 2014 08:05 AM (xzEeG)

29 Krakatoa: very very nice. Do you prefer bone in ham or bone out? Not sure how that would affect taste.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 27, 2014 08:07 AM (l0lja)

30 Also, someone posted a simple bacon curing recipe a year or so ago. Was that here on the pork thread?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 27, 2014 08:08 AM (l0lja)

31
That ham needed a bacon wrap in order to be considered kosher... just sayin'.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 27, 2014 08:08 AM (EPaen)

32
So it seems that Bernie Sanders is getting more serious about running.

Jeez, with a field consisting of him, Lizzy and Hillary, any candidate who even is halfway decent at faking being conservative should be able to beat any of them.

Unfortunately, we will not be allowed to have one.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2014 08:09 AM (CMkNk)

33 The fact that Muslims don't eat pork tells me all I need to know about their 'god'.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 27, 2014 08:10 AM (l0lja)

34 Looks incredible! BTW, did you finish it in the oven for convenience sake, or to keep it moist? I'm thinking you could have finished the ham on the smoker if you decreased the temperature/increased the time.

Posted by: WVinMN at December 27, 2014 08:11 AM (pGeKK)

35 This pork talk got me thinking about pozole, a traditional New Year's Eve dish my grandmother always made.

"Pork soup??" my husband asked when I brought it up.

Most of the recipes I found online have lots of pepper and peppers in it, which would make it tasty and very different from the way we ate it!

This is almost bland enough:

http://tinyurl.com/k5n7uxh

We'd put oregano on top, and lots of Monterey Jack cheese. Maybe diced tomatoes and someone would add avocado...probably other stuff I'm forgetting. Just little bowls of toppings so you can choose your own.

And J.J., it has kosher salt in it, so it must be kosher, right?

My 9 year old loves soup. If I tell him we can add potatoes, he'll get on board with this recipe...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 08:13 AM (0xTsz)

36 Yeah, Krak,

When you go to that much trouble, get the biggest ham that will fit in the smoker.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 27, 2014 08:16 AM (V70Uh)

37 "This pork talk got me thinking about pozole"

Never heard of it. Sounds good, however.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:16 AM (WHIPH)

38 Looked up pozole.

A Mexican hominy. Many, many different ways to do it. Never had hominy either to my knowledge.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:18 AM (WHIPH)

39 33 The fact that Muslims don't eat pork tells me all I need to know about their 'god'.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 27, 2014 08:10 AM (l0lja)

Well, to be fair, Jews don't eat pork either.

A better metric is how Muslims treat dogs. My guess is that dogs took an instinctive dislike to old Mo.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 08:18 AM (sdi6R)

40 Morning all.

G-D ( figuratively) does this Jew love a good ham!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 08:19 AM (nzKvP)

41 Zuke with the proper priorities FTW! Good luck to use on finishing w/ a winning record vs Cinci today. It's been a tough year to be a Hokie.

Foghorn: I prefer bone-in for flavor, but there's no doubt that boneless is generally easier to prep, cook, & slice.

We didn't waste anything though. Dogs got treats from the skin which was removed prior to curing, and the gristly bits from the cooked bone.

Bone was used yesterday in making ham soup which turned out to be a surprisingly big hit with baby Soraya. She is getting old enough to develop preferences in what she eats. We chopped up the veg & ham bits from the soup, and she ate over 3 ounces before finally calling no mas.

m: Sides were mashed potatoes with chopped up onions & mushrooms that were sauteed than added.

A basic herb dressing that was essentially a savory bread pudding. (My wife kills it at all things bready).

Steamed asparagus with Hollandaise.

And from the ham drippings I made a rich smokey gravy using a white roux (using ham & bacon grease instead of butter) and a little heavy cream to thicken it up.

Posted by: krakatoa at December 27, 2014 08:21 AM (eCtnP)

42 Damn, krak'....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:22 AM (WHIPH)

43 Posted by: krakatoa at December 27, 2014 08:21 AM (eCtnP)

Looks great. You live far from NJ?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 08:22 AM (nzKvP)

44 Beautiful looking ham.

I prefer a smoked pork butt as it is further away from the pigs anus. Speaking of which-

Obama hopes to enlist GOP in push for trade pact, despite Democratic resistance
I might have to start voting dem.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 27, 2014 08:23 AM (XzRw1)

45 I don't recall seeing any followup to the pre-holiday Ham Alert that was widely covered. When that piglet virus hit early in the season, pork producers with untouched herds held on to them, feeding them up to a heretofore-unheard-of size. And HoneyBaked found out that the hams were too big to fit in the spiral slicing machines! They were frantically looking for smaller hams, in November.

Never heard how that turned out. We got ours. Expensive, as usual, but not noticeably higher than last year. You'd think we'd have a government department keeping an eye on these national security situations. Maybe it's a secret.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 27, 2014 08:28 AM (xq1UY)

46 I was looking at the "decade-specific words in song titles" link from the ONT.

1920s: Blues, Pal, Sweetheart, Rose, Mammy

2010s: We, Yeah, Hell, F**k, Die

Nope. Nothing wrong with the culture.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 08:28 AM (sdi6R)

47 North Korea calls Obama a monkey

http://tinyurl.com/moe4xu8

>>It wasn't the first time North Korea has used crude insults against Obama and other top U.S. and South Korean officials. Earlier this year, the North called U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry a wolf with a "hideous" lantern jaw...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 08:30 AM (0xTsz)

48 The weathermen were on the ball in their forecast. 60's yesterday, snowing like hell today.

Posted by: Soona at December 27, 2014 08:32 AM (V3IoZ)

49 It does strike me odd that ham is so expensive considering how much of it there is running around.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:32 AM (WHIPH)

50 Looks damn good, Krak!

Morning all!

That Pozole looks a bit like the soup they have at Chili's - it's a spicy sausage and chicken soup with hominy... actually, very good.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2014 08:33 AM (/9Mak)

51 "snowing like hell today."

Where at, Soona?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:33 AM (WHIPH)

52 It does strike me odd that ham is so expensive considering how much of it there is running around.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:32 AM (WHIPH)

Some people say the same thing about "Pussy".

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 08:33 AM (nzKvP)

53 WVinMN: I have an electric smoker that only goes up to about 275 if I recall correctly, so the intent was always to finish in the oven. Hard to get a good glaze in the smoker at that temp.

I like smoking over charcoal, but it is hard to beat the temperature consistency and humidity control you get with a decent electric or propane smoker. In the end, the meat generally just allows smoke to penetrate until it reaches 130 degrees, so after that point, you risk the bark taking on some unappetizing characteristics if you keep adding wood bits to the smoker. So it's always fine to pull meat from any smoker & finish in the oven. As a bonus, your house smells incredible.

Honestly was surprised the ham got essentially done in the smoker -- I figured it would have taken an extra hour at 325 to get to 150 internal temp. Wife is sure I have somehow unlocked the "microwave" easter egg of the smoker.

That's why I had to rest it for an hour before putting it in for the glaze. I let it cool down to 135 internal, and then it reheated to 145ish while glazing.

For a ham you don't expect to last more than a week in the fridge (and this one will be lucky to survive 4 days), pulling it out at 145 internal is plenty fine.

There was maybe 6 oz of meat that looked questionable at the deepest part closest to the bone, but that just went in the soup.

Posted by: krakatoa at December 27, 2014 08:34 AM (eCtnP)

54 "That Pozole looks a bit like the soup they have at Chili's"

Really? I'll have to give it a go.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:34 AM (WHIPH)

55 Now if I called Obama a monkey, I would be labeled a racist.

But in the interest of multiculturalism, we must embrace North Korea's diversity.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 27, 2014 08:35 AM (V70Uh)

56 It does strike me odd that ham is so expensive considering how much of it there is running around.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
..............
It's a loss-leader in grocery stores around here during the holidays. We bought a smoked butt for $1.18 a pound for Christmas eve... shanks were 88 cents a pound!

And I still have a turkey in the freezer from around Thanksgiving that was 99 cents a pound.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2014 08:35 AM (/9Mak)

57 51 "snowing like hell today."

Where at, Soona?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:33 AM (WHIPH)

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Oklahoma City and points west.

Posted by: Soona at December 27, 2014 08:35 AM (V3IoZ)

58 "Some people say the same thing about..."

Much higher maintenance.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:35 AM (WHIPH)

59 Countdown to Afghani "lone wolf" attack...

http://tinyurl.com/kx6o5sj

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 08:37 AM (0xTsz)

60 Looks delicious. Definitely use a bigger ham next time. There is always plenty available for sale.

Posted by: Mr.Wu at December 27, 2014 08:39 AM (PD6iL)

61 "Oklahoma City"

Holy shit. Just checked weather. Snow and sleet where I'm supposed to be headed today.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:40 AM (WHIPH)

62 Recipe?

Posted by: Poppa B at December 27, 2014 08:40 AM (Y8FMA)

63 "Mr.Wu"

*I wouldn't buy from this guy*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:41 AM (WHIPH)

64 Countdown to Afghani "lone wolf" attack...
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 08:37 AM

But...but...but...Choom Boy says the war is over!

Are you one of those H8ers who dares to disagree with the Mocha Messiah?

(If anyone ever disproved the "stopped clock is right twice a day" theory, it's him -- I can't think of a single instance when he hasn't lied like a rug about something important.)

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 27, 2014 08:41 AM (yAC3X)

65 47
Earlier this year, the North called U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry a wolf with a "hideous" lantern jaw...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 08:30 AM (0xTsz)

Well, the AoSHQ Style Guide requires that we call him a horse rather than a wolf, but otherwise it's spot on.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 08:42 AM (sdi6R)

66 That ham looks amazing.

We went to a holiday party a week ago where they served a nice, deeply-smoked ham. I asked for the bone to take home so I could make split-pea soup. It came out awesome. To me, the key to good split-pea soup starts with a hambone from a good smoked ham. Looks like you have a great hambone for soup there.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2014 08:43 AM (tCODv)

67 Anyone heard from Vic?

Posted by: freaked at December 27, 2014 08:43 AM (JdEZJ)

68 Mrs.A-Hole made a wonderful cherry pie for Christmas. She used frozen cherries and cooked the filling herself instead of using the canned cherries and she made her own crust from scratch.

Cherry pie is the best pie of all and this was the best cherry pie I have ever had. She is a treasure. I am a bit sad for all of you who do not have a wife as wonderful as mine.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 27, 2014 08:44 AM (PD6iL)

69 This is why humans are better than animals; a wolf wouldn't have bothered with the raspberry/ginger glaze.

Posted by: dippity do at December 27, 2014 08:44 AM (3MNCs)

70 Well, the AoSHQ Style Guide requires that we call him a horse rather than a wolf, but otherwise it's spot on.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 08:42 AM

I like horses, and would therefore prefer not to see them denigrated this way.

Instead, one might say of a particularly ugly horse that it is "John Kerry-faced."

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 27, 2014 08:45 AM (yAC3X)

71 Holy shit. Just checked weather. Snow and sleet where I'm supposed to be headed today.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:40 AM (WHIPH)

--------------------

If it's north and east of here,then, yeah, you're going to get some white stuff.

Posted by: Soona at December 27, 2014 08:46 AM (V3IoZ)

72 http://www.tommyeats.com
/tommyeats/2013/06/bacon-at-home.html

It's one long string. Still trying to find unsmoked pork belly in this berg.

Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2014 08:46 AM (RZLOH)

73 >>The weathermen were on the ball in their forecast. 60's yesterday, snowing like hell today.
Posted by: Soona

Yup. Looks like the balmy weather is gone for awhile.

Posted by: Aviator at December 27, 2014 08:46 AM (3rrMW)

74
I woke up with a raspberry ginger glazed pig once.

Posted by: Bill Clinton, Former Preznit at December 27, 2014 08:47 AM (wCuR+)

75 Actually south and west. But Accu' is showing weather there this morning.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:48 AM (WHIPH)

76 The reason NK doesn't call kerry horserace is because they have mistakenly eaten all the horses in NK

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 08:48 AM (nzKvP)

77 yum

Posted by: m at December 27, 2014 08:49 AM (G891H)

78 YUM!!

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 08:49 AM (0FSuD)

79 >>I woke up with a raspberry ginger glazed pig once.
Posted by: Bill Clinton, Former Preznit

Hard to believe....that it was just once.

Posted by: Aviator at December 27, 2014 08:49 AM (3rrMW)

80 I was given some Luther's Smithfield ham slices and some sweet potato biscuits by my son's father in law in VA.

Talk about good stuff!

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 08:51 AM (0FSuD)

81 74
I woke up with a raspberry ginger glazed pig once.
Posted by: Bill Clinton, Former Preznit at December 27, 2014 08:47 AM (wCuR+)

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I've woken up with a few that had shanks.

Posted by: Soona at December 27, 2014 08:51 AM (V3IoZ)

82 "6

Is it kosher?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2014 07:36 AM (CMkNk)"

I seem to recall a story from Israel a few years back that some kibbutz was raising swine and selling the meat as "penguin". Apparently they did not lack for buyers.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 27, 2014 08:51 AM (PD6iL)

83 6

Is it kosher?

I am going to call in goat and try some.

Posted by: Mohamed, the goat fucker at December 27, 2014 08:52 AM (0FSuD)

84
Usually it's just the regular pig.

Posted by: Bill Clinton, Former Preznit at December 27, 2014 08:52 AM (wCuR+)

85 @ 80 ?
Luther's Smithfield ?

Would that not be Luder's

Posted by: Corky at December 27, 2014 08:53 AM (/WmRg)

86 "6

Is it kosher?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 27, 2014 07:36 AM (CMkNk)"

I seem to recall a story from Israel a few years back that some kibbutz was raising swine and selling the meat as "penguin". Apparently they did not lack for buyers.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 27, 2014 08:51 AM (PD6iL)

In Israel they call all pork and non-kosher meats "WHITE MEAT" and it works out great for those of us who "wish" to partake and feel "Less" quilty. It became very popular with the huge Russian Aliyah to Israel 25 years ago

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 08:54 AM (nzKvP)

87 Send these pics to Twitter.com/justicewillett. He'll make ya ham famous.

Posted by: Kt(great) at December 27, 2014 08:56 AM (Bl4dy)

88 @85

Luter's Smithfield Ham. Eating a piece right now!

http://tinyurl.com/k4ra7q8

Posted by: Mohamed, the goat fucker at December 27, 2014 08:56 AM (0FSuD)

89 off goat fucker sock

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 08:57 AM (0FSuD)

90 "63
"Mr.Wu"

*I wouldn't buy from this guy*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 27, 2014 08:41 AM (WHIPH)"

Pay no attention to the rags in the corner of the pen.

Posted by: Mr.Wu at December 27, 2014 08:57 AM (PD6iL)

91 all of you who do not have a wife as wonderful as mine.

Tip of the hat, as backhoe used to say, and let's do "Wife Wars" sometime.
'Ettes are fulsome (I have pics!) in their spousal praise, but except for the odd braggart now and again who shall remain nameless, we don't usually "do" wives.

What a flame-war that would make.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 27, 2014 08:58 AM (xq1UY)

92 I haven't had this much fun since the pigs ate my little brother.

Anyone else remember that saying?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 08:59 AM (0FSuD)

93 Must be a southern saying. Never heard that one.

Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2014 09:00 AM (RZLOH)

94 Funeral today in Queens NY for Officer Ramos.Police in Blue as far as the eye can see. To bad DeCommio is gonna be there. Maybe he will be on time today. The prick was late for the wake

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 09:02 AM (nzKvP)

95 I hear thunder...

No, that is not a metaphor for our times, it's just raining.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 09:02 AM (0xTsz)

96 There is some kosher treatment of a goose that approximates pork, I guess, but a few years ago there was some talk of a ruminant creature in Indonesia that was entirely piglike except, you know, not a pig. Great things were expected of it.

I never saw the followup. All talk of Indonesian ruminants suddenly ceased, 2008.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 27, 2014 09:04 AM (xq1UY)

97 94
Funeral today in Queens NY for Officer Ramos.Police in Blue as far as
the eye can see. To bad DeCommio is gonna be there. Maybe he will be on
time today. The prick was late for the wake

I wonder if the OWS pussies will show up?

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 27, 2014 09:04 AM (XzRw1)

98 @93

No doubt. ha ha.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:04 AM (0FSuD)

99 >>FEMINIST FIASCO FESTIVUS

Tim Blair:

http://tinyurl.com/p63rl3h

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 09:05 AM (0xTsz)

100 Fredo flying in to the funeral of the slain Police Officer today....oh wait no he isn't. but he will finally release a statement....urh not that either??????

Never mind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 09:05 AM (nzKvP)

101 All this talk about ham is making me think about cooking a pig.

I think maybe next year I'll have a pig picking between Christmas and New Years.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:06 AM (0FSuD)

102 Yowza, that's one nice looking ham there, krak.

And Greetings to teh Horde. Maybe we'll get lucky and hell will take today off.

Hope springs eternal...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 27, 2014 09:06 AM (0HooB)

103 Not only will De Blasio be there today, he will speak. The family of Ramos had a strange press conference days ago where at times it was hard to tell who was being supported when the non-family members spoke.

Posted by: Baldy at December 27, 2014 09:07 AM (+35FH)

104 I wonder if the OWS pussies will show up?

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 27, 2014 09:04 AM (XzRw1)

I would hope even they know how stupid that would be, but you can always hope they don't. You want to put a fork in them? that would do it with the public.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:07 AM (0FSuD)

105 That's a damn fine looking ham.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 09:07 AM (rwI+c)

106 "55
Now if I called Obama a monkey, I would be labeled a racist.

But in the interest of multiculturalism, we must embrace North Korea's diversity.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 27, 2014 08:35 AM (V70Uh)"

Weren't the Russians projecting a laser image of Obama's face turning into a monkey's face on the side of the US embassy in Moscow a few months ago?

If I didn't know better I would be tempted to call all these commies racists but I know that the progressives have an involved explanation of why anything the left does is entirely innocent, proper and correct while in reality as a conservative Republican it is actually I who is the racist.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 27, 2014 09:08 AM (PD6iL)

107 This is an outstanding post I just found linked at Neo-Neocon. It's by Yaacov ben Moshe, entitled "A Jew Who Says Merry Christmas":

https://tinyurl.com/oe2zlxn

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 09:08 AM (sdi6R)

108 Pozole is a traditional dish in many states in Mexico, including Guerrero.

When we go to Acapulco, every Thursday, most of the restaurants have 'Jueves Pozolero' or Pozole Thursday as a lunch special.

Being pork and hominy, it starts out very bland, but there are all kinds of variations with greater or lesser spice.

Posted by: Aunt Ralph at December 27, 2014 09:09 AM (QaxQM)

109 If you're consistently late for things it's a form of passive aggressiveness. or narcissism. Either you don't want to show up somewhere or you want to make an appearance like some kind of movie star. I expect with De Blasio-depending on the circumstances-it's either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2014 09:11 AM (Dj3AB)

110 The SCOAMT don't do "white" cop funerals. He'd lose his narrative if he did.

Posted by: Soona at December 27, 2014 09:11 AM (V3IoZ)

111 110
The SCOAMT don't do "white" cop funerals. He'd lose his narrative if he did.

Posted by: Soona at December 27, 2014 09:11 AM (V3IoZ)

THIS is the truth. Send Joey the clown, he speaks white.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:13 AM (0FSuD)

112 Beer can chicken is the cooks favorite, one can for the chicken and 5 cans for the cook

Posted by: LaZrtx at December 27, 2014 09:13 AM (jVM6/)

113 "92
I haven't had this much fun since the pigs ate my little brother.

Anyone else remember that saying?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 08:59 AM (0FSuD)"

I heard it as "I haven't laughed so hard since the pigs ate my little brother" from some guy who grew up on a farm in the northern Midwest. Of course, that was in the Army and he was a crusty old sargent who had been in a long time so it is possible he had picked it up over the years.

Plenty of colorful expressions in the Army. One of my favorites was, "That was slicker than snot on a glass door knob" when something worked out well, particularly better than expected.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 27, 2014 09:18 AM (PD6iL)

114 raspberry ginger glazed pig, that's how Hillary got Chelsea

Posted by: LaZrtx at December 27, 2014 09:19 AM (jVM6/)

115 We use to own a farm and my dad always cured a ham from the fall for the next Christmas. It hung in the shed for almost a year in cheese cloth. He had to scrap off the maggots every so often. When he took it down it was hard as a rock and had to be soaked in water for days.

Damn it was good. Yes, of course, we are from Virginia.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:20 AM (0FSuD)

116 Here's an article that lists the 3 representatives Obama sent to Michael Brown's funeral.

http://tinyurl.com/mv4e7ny

Let's compare that with who, if anyone, he sends today.

Wash Times link

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 09:20 AM (0xTsz)

117 Kosher pig?

Would these count?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulefoot

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at December 27, 2014 09:21 AM (M6Vhk)

118 That was a good post, rick. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2014 09:21 AM (Dj3AB)

119 It would be fitting if they closed the doors at the start of the service and told anyone arriving late that it was just to bad, especially to someone that had a personal hand in his death because of his rhetoric.

Back to the ham...

That looks delicious, I may have to do that next weekend.
I have a smoker that I can ramp to 375 and higher, as evidenced by a few pork experiments that even the dog wouldn't/couldn't eat. I swear, I didn't realize ribs could turn into planks of charred meat.

Today's cooking fun is a pair of roasts that will be wrapped inside tin foil with onions, carrots, garlic, mushrooms and a few other ingredients, maybe even bacon. Cooking time should be till the internal temp hits 160 and they get pulled off.

Posted by: Gmac- Pondering...something involving a Chinese invention that goes BOOM at December 27, 2014 09:21 AM (baiNQ)

120 Ham, bacon, sausages . . .

The pig is a quite tasty animal. As compensation for being sooo tasty, God gave the pig a 30-minute orgasm.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 27, 2014 09:21 AM (JO9+V)

121 Anyone else remember that saying?

We had a variation of that saying back home in Alabama:

"Where did (insert appropriate cousin's name here) go?"

"He went to shit and the hogs ate him."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 27, 2014 09:22 AM (0HooB)

122 114
raspberry ginger glazed pig, that's how ~~Hillary~~Humma got ~~Chelsea~~ Hillary

Posted by: LaZrtx at December 27, 2014 09:19 AM (jVM6/)

FIFY

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:22 AM (0FSuD)

123 >>Being pork and hominy, it starts out very bland, but there are all kinds of variations with greater or lesser spice.

We only had it New Year's Eve. The hominy is really good at soaking up alcohol, to the disappointment of some who were not trying to stay sober.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 09:23 AM (0xTsz)

124 while in reality as a conservative Republican it is actually I who is the racist.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 27, 2014 09:08 AM (PD6iL)

I certainly trust you didn't watch "A Christmas Story of White Privilege," Adolph.

Posted by: Bobs House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 27, 2014 09:23 AM (yxw0r)

125 This pork talk got me thinking about pozole, a traditional New Year's Eve dish my grandmother always made.

Pozole is stupidly easy to make and delicious, so-

it's definitely in my wheelhouse.

The kiddos love it.

We use dried guajillo peppers usually in ours. Though I've made it with other types of dried peppers(ancho, new mexico) and it always comes out good.

So, don't get too hung up on pepper types.

Get your butcher to cut a five pound pork shoulder or boston butt into one inch cubes and your about half way there. (like said- stupidly easy to make).

The garnish is a lot of fun for the kids and adults as you can customize your bowl of pozole.

We use: thin sliced raw cabbage, sliced radishes, thin sliced raw onion, lime wedges to squeeze and mexican oregano to sprinkle.

A great Fall or Winter dish.

Hey, Krak,

How's about coughing up your cure and glaze recipes?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 27, 2014 09:24 AM (KBvAm)

126 They are expecting 25,000 police at this funeral. With the VP there I'll bet no one will be allowed to carry their service weapon.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:24 AM (0FSuD)

127 126 They are expecting 25,000 police at this funeral. With the VP there I'll bet no one will be allowed to carry their service weapon.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:24 AM (0FSuD)

To be fair, you don't want Choo-Choo Joe anywhere near a loaded firearm.

Posted by: Bobs House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 27, 2014 09:26 AM (yxw0r)

128 Last night I took a ham-bone and the hard-cured rind and soaked pinto beans, and finely diced carrot and onion and cooked it in a pressure cooker for an hour at 15 pounds pressure.

I had thirds and am mildly unhappy that I didn't use more beans. There is just something about beans and ham bone.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 27, 2014 09:27 AM (t//F+)

129 They are expecting 25,000 police at this funeral. With the VP there I'll bet no one will be allowed to carry their service weapon.

They will, however, be issued sporks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 27, 2014 09:27 AM (0HooB)

130 127
To be fair, you don't want Choo-Choo Joe anywhere near a loaded firearm.

Posted by: Bobs House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 27, 2014 09:26 AM (yxw0r)

I hear he's an expert on shotguns.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 09:28 AM (sdi6R)

131 That pork looks pretty darn good. For Christmas, I smoked a pork butt
with hickory chips on the grill at 250F for 3 hours and finished it
covered in the oven for 2 1/2 more at 275F. Best pork I ever made, so
far. Dry rub of hot NM red chile powder, brown sugar, dry mustard,
granulated onion and garlic, salt and pepper. No glaze, the rub crusts
wonderfully on the scored fat on the top and tastes sweet, smoky and
salty.

Posted by: huerfano at December 27, 2014 09:28 AM (bAGA/)

132 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 27, 2014 08:51 AM (PD6iL)

Which seems a strange choice since I'm pretty sure penguin wouldn't be kosher either. Not 100% positive, but pretty sure.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2014 09:29 AM (GDulk)

133 >>We use: thin sliced raw cabbage, sliced radishes, thin sliced raw onion, lime wedges to squeeze and mexican oregano to sprinkle.

Radishes! That's one we used that I forgot.

Like I said, ours was bland bland bland but still somehow yummy.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 27, 2014 09:29 AM (0xTsz)

134 That looks like a really tasty ham and the side dishes sound excellent. Unfortunately, I don't have a smoker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2014 09:31 AM (Dj3AB)

135 I had thirds and am mildly unhappy that I didn't use more beans. There is just something about beans and ham bone.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 27, 2014 09:27 AM (t//F+)

My city slicker wife does not like pintos. My country mom always made a pot in the fall. Soak dry beans a day or so, put ham bone in, cook for a day or so, serve with chopped onions and maybe a little ketchup.

Good cheap protein.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:32 AM (0FSuD)

136 I have a ham bone in the freezer. Gonna make red beans and rice for New Year's Day instead of black-eyed peas.

Posted by: no good deed at December 27, 2014 09:32 AM (w3a0Z)

137 Re pigs eating people, I used to hear it this way:

Q: Where's Joe?

A: He went to pee and the pigs ate him.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 27, 2014 09:33 AM (lG2E3)

138 I just thought that this was a really nice essay from "The Anchoress" on cultivating post Christmas silence:

http://tinyurl.com/op2j3aj

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2014 09:33 AM (Dj3AB)

139 So what time is the police funeral? I suspect at least Fox will cover it. Any streaming links that we could watch it on?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:34 AM (0FSuD)

140 @138

That was nice. I forget about her blog, she is very good.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:35 AM (0FSuD)

141 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 27, 2014 09:22 AM (0HooB)

Aw, man!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 27, 2014 09:35 AM (lG2E3)

142 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 27, 2014 09:18 AM (PD6iL)

My dad says that (without the doorknob part) but it can be either sarcastic or complimentary. Now I wonder if he picked it up in the Air Force.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 27, 2014 09:35 AM (GDulk)

143 OK. Dammit, a leaf blower on the Saturday after Christmas at 9 AM.

Fucking assholes.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:37 AM (0FSuD)

144 We could totally eat that pig.

http://youtu.be/B2rX3y6Rf9o

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at December 27, 2014 09:41 AM (bUmSq)

145 Sometime next year, I'm gonna finally break down and buy a Caja China roasting boxes

Posted by: The Dude at December 27, 2014 09:42 AM (SyKbw)

146 Unfortunately, I don't have a smoker.

That is unfortunate, FS. They're a lot of fun and produce tasty treats that other types of cooking just can't. If you enjoy grilling, you might like one.

Food, smoke and poking fire with a stick. It doesn't get much better...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 27, 2014 09:43 AM (0HooB)

147 Here's a rather sweet commercial about the Christmas Truce in WWI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWF2JBb1bvM

A moment of grace among the horror of the trenches.

Not possible since then as all of our following wartime enemies- have been marxist(Communist, Nazi), Fascist Shintoism, Islamist -

the philosophies of which are all unforgiving eliminationist.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 27, 2014 09:44 AM (KBvAm)

148 138 I just thought that this was a really nice essay from "The Anchoress" on cultivating post Christmas silence:

http://tinyurl.com/op2j3aj

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 27, 2014 09:33 AM (Dj3AB)

That was nice. Thanks.

I've had a pretty quiet Christmas. I live alone and nobody gave me any presents, but I've had a merry Christmas nonetheless. It's one of those things that improves with the perspective of age.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 09:47 AM (sdi6R)

149 I see a new fundamental WeirdDave post yet this one still sends alive. So confusing!

I'll just say this here, anyway...

Morning, Glories!

Soona? Just a light dusting of snow up here north of Tulsa, everything looks frosted. Fine midst of snow still falling. Looks nice for a third day of Christmas.

Posted by: mindful webworker - awake again at December 27, 2014 09:54 AM (Y42RP)

150 Nip, Pintos can have an off taste, even if you soak and rinse them for a day or two.
Maya Coba beans and navy beans are a little more bland, and she might stand for them. If you don't mind the pasty texture you can also try lentils. You can also try garbanzos.

My big issue is gas, so I soak my beans for two days at least to try and convert those inedible sugars.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 27, 2014 09:59 AM (t//F+)

151 I live alone and nobody gave me any presents

Actually, that was wrong. My boss's wife gave me some homemade chocolate chip cookies, which were very good.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 10:01 AM (sdi6R)

152 Looks amazing.

I love to play with the grill and smoker. I need to experiment more with brines and cures. One thing has me stumped .......
What is the purpose of the one day water bath?

Posted by: RustyG at December 27, 2014 10:03 AM (34Xjk)

153

you're alone, eh?

jerk!

Posted by: rickl's cats at December 27, 2014 10:04 AM (XK/4h)

154 Hey Krak, would you be able to share the recipe for that cure? Sounds fun.

Posted by: dan-O at December 27, 2014 10:05 AM (D0bIN)

155
My big issue is gas..

Me too. I'd like to eat more beans but they're not worth the trouble.

Posted by: Slippery When Soothsayer at December 27, 2014 10:07 AM (XK/4h)

156 153

you're alone, eh?

jerk!
Posted by: rickl's cats at December 27, 2014 10:04 AM (XK/4h)

Right. I'm sitting on the edge of my seat, literally.

Because Kira is occupying most of it.

Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 10:07 AM (sdi6R)

157 Your body gets used to them, and gas becomes less of an issue. They're a darn-near perfect food for diabetics (the fiber wipes out half the carbs).

'Course, I'm also a dad, so farting is in the job description.

Posted by: Bobs House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 27, 2014 10:59 AM (yxw0r)

158 "He went to pee and the pigs ate him."
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 27, 2014 09:33 AM (lG2E3)

Was he from Deadwood?

Posted by: Paid for by "Pigs Promoting Weak Bladders" PAC at December 27, 2014 11:13 AM (pBEH2)

159 Ancient Egyptian pharaohs were embalmed with less effort.

A+ for perseverance and flavor.

Posted by: King Toot-N-Common at December 27, 2014 11:24 AM (pBEH2)

160 I'll put together the recipes for tomorrow.

The bath is to remove some of the salt from the ham.

In a cure or brine (in a nutshell, brines use less salt, and aren't done as long as curing which often uses actual curing salts which have nitrate or nitrites in them), you use salt to help carry flavor and moisture and tenderizing agents into the meat.

That's why store-bought cured hams are so salty. If you soak them in water, you draw out the salt without removing flavor that has spent the last several days marrying itself to the meat, and their is no net loss in moisture. The longer you soak in fresh water, the more salt you remove. Changing out the water allows you to keep removing salt, as once the soaking water reaches a salinity balance with the meat, you aren't doing anything.

Posted by: krakatoa at December 27, 2014 11:42 AM (eCtnP)

161 Interesting. Thanks for the reply and l'll be watching for the recipe.

Posted by: RustyG at December 27, 2014 12:05 PM (34Xjk)

162 Pozole seems to have come up several times. I made a big batch on Christmas, Michoachan style. 3 main ingredients, 7 garnishes. I'll post a photo on Twitter a little later.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at December 27, 2014 12:42 PM (qahv/)

163 I used about the same garnishes as Naturalfake, but the supermarket ran out of radishes, so I used turnips the second day.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at December 27, 2014 12:46 PM (qahv/)

164 That looks soooo good, krak!

Posted by: Y-not at December 27, 2014 02:10 PM (9BRsg)

165 Krak,

Dont know if I would rather reproduce with it or reproduce it...

In case I do the latter...please post complete recipe for the Morons ok?

PPCR

Posted by: PeppermintPattysClitring at December 27, 2014 06:52 PM (iu4n/)

166 Escort girls http://REGMODELS.RU

Posted by: Tina at December 28, 2014 03:55 AM (WprBO)

167 That looks good!

Posted by: food junkie at December 28, 2014 06:00 PM (dMVEi)

168 Did I miss the recipe posting?
Please, pretty please.

Posted by: Muzjik at December 29, 2014 04:24 PM (lHUYh)

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