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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | A Time to be Thankful [Y-not]Happy Boxing Day! By now most of us are surrounded by the remnants of our Christmas (and Hanukkah) celebrations. Here at Casa Y-not we are having our Christmas dinner later today, but I imagine most of you are stuffed to the gills from yesterday's festivities.![]() Open thread to count your blessings. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
First again! I'll go summon the corgis
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 02:36 PM (vVSOO) 2
Pretty quiet in here.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 02:38 PM (vVSOO) 3
I sounded the corgi whistle.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 02:38 PM (vVSOO) 4
I am thankful that we have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House
Posted by: John McCain at December 26, 2014 02:38 PM (LoIJo) 5
*runs in panting, ears flapping and tail wagging*
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 02:38 PM (/Ho8c) 6
They must be too busy going after the burritos. Free food after all.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 02:38 PM (vVSOO) 7
I'm also going to be thankful if Mr Y-not doesn't burn the house down while frying the arancini for today's "Christmas" dinner!
Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2014 02:39 PM (9BRsg) 8
I'm thankful for warmth. And pie.
Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 02:39 PM (z9qsk) 9
I am thankful for my new bride, and getting to see Helter Skelter in my lifetime...
Posted by: Charles Manson at December 26, 2014 02:39 PM (LoIJo) 10
Nice post Y-not. I am thankful for still having a job.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 02:39 PM (q8+L+) 11
Thank God my cat's not green.
Posted by: DaveA at December 26, 2014 02:39 PM (DL2i+) 12
Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 02:40 PM (kff5f) 13
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Thank God my cat's not green. Posted by: DaveA at December 26, 2014 02:39 PM (DL2i+) -----I dunno. That might be kind of cool. A conversation starter, if you will. Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 02:40 PM (vVSOO) Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 26, 2014 02:40 PM (OMTVG) 15
Pretty thankful 2014 is over.
Posted by: Garrett at December 26, 2014 02:40 PM (nDU7D) 16
I'm thankful to know that there are all you Morons out there--maybe not all hope for 'Murca is lost.
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 02:40 PM (/Ho8c) 17
Howdy, new, new thread.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 02:40 PM (MMWhx) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 02:41 PM (kff5f) 19
I'm thankful for a stupid electorate.
Posted by: Braraka O'Preezy at December 26, 2014 02:41 PM (z9qsk) 20
Our cat is just stupid. And annoying. And not green.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 02:41 PM (vVSOO) 21
I am thankful that with the midterms over, I don't have to placate the base any longer
Posted by: John Boehner at December 26, 2014 02:41 PM (LoIJo) Posted by: St Paddy's Day at December 26, 2014 02:41 PM (3ZtZW) 23
Foxy Boxing Day would be so much better.
Posted by: Garrett at December 26, 2014 02:41 PM (nDU7D) 24
how lucky I was to have a mom and dad who raised me with love and wisdom
Amen. Parents: the friends who beat you so you don't get sodomized in prison later. Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at December 26, 2014 02:42 PM (MbqmP) 25
I am thankful for John C. Garand.
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 02:42 PM (/Ho8c) 26
Amen. Parents: the friends who beat you so you don't get sodomized in prison later.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage So, something like friendly monkeys? Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 02:43 PM (/Ho8c) 27
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how lucky I was to have a mom and dad who raised me with love and wisdom " Boom. Isn't it funny how the nuclear family works out. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 02:43 PM (MMWhx) 28
I'm thankful for my cats. And Kate Upton.
Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 02:44 PM (z9qsk) 29
Parents: the friends who beat you so you don't get sodomized in prison later.
Wow that's worth stealing Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 26, 2014 02:44 PM (FIrEF) 30
Thankful that for 50 years Chuck Cecil broadcast his radio show "The Swingin' Years". Happy Boxing Day Birthday, Chuck!
http://tinyurl.com/no73cxy Till this February when radio station KKJZ did Something to piss him off and he left. KKJZ claims "technical difficulties", yet Chuck's show can still be heard online (which despite posting here now is not an option for me) on Fridays 88.3 fm WPPB - Eastern Long Island! http://tinyurl.com/olpwbab KKJZ, what kinda technical difficulties? From Chuck's home studio in Ventura to Long Beach Cali? Not to Long Fucking Island! COULD IT BE YOUR SPONSORING A LITTLE "JAZZ TRIP" TO CASTRO'S CUBA BRINGING U. S. CASH TO COMMIES? Posted by: OK, thanks, bye at December 26, 2014 02:44 PM (ucB75) 31
" the friends who beat you so you don't get sodomized in prison later."
Well, I guess there is that. No sodomy=good. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 02:44 PM (MMWhx) 32
After he took a 3 year hiatus in the business world, I was able to convince Boy928 to complete his BSACS in Chemistry this semester. I was proud as he took his graduation walk.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 26, 2014 02:45 PM (rwI+c) Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 26, 2014 02:45 PM (XzRw1) 34
I had great childhood too. Mom is gone now, but dad is still here. It's amazing how that nuclear family works out. Kinda like that is how it should be.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 02:45 PM (q8+L+) 35
>>>Isn't it funny how the nuclear family works out.
I wouldn't know. Hell, most of the time I don't know what *any* members of my large-ish family are doing - and we all live fairly close together Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at December 26, 2014 02:45 PM (3ZtZW) 36
I'm thankful for golf courses and eight balls.
Posted by: Berry Kalikimaka at December 26, 2014 02:46 PM (wAQA5) 37
I had a very nice, laid back Christmas with some extended family, and kind of realized that my kids have picked up some extra grandparents, which is pretty sweet.
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 26, 2014 02:46 PM (wBFBl) 38
My mom and I were remarking on how important a good family is, actually.
I mentioned that (contra a certain in-law) the biggest problem I have on employment background checks is if the person running it falls asleep because it's so boring. Most of that is due to a mom and dad who, yes, "beat [me] so [I wouldn't] get sodomized in prison later." Not that I got spanked a whole lot as a kid, but when I deserved it- I got it. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 02:46 PM (kff5f) 39
An interesting bit of news -
In a practice started by Gov. Reagan, some of California's governors have issued dozens of pardons each Christmas (Wilson and Schwarzenneger only issued a little over a dozen pardons each over their entire time in office, and Davis issued none). All of the pardons are directed to nonviolent criminals who have served their time, and lived productive lives since then. The pardons basically restore certain rights that they would otherwise be denied. Brown issued 105 yesterday... ... and then withdrew one. It appears the guy - who was to be pardoned for a teenage drug conviction - had entered into a consent settlement in May of last year with the Feds over accusations of financial misdeeds. Posted by: junior at December 26, 2014 02:47 PM (UWFpX) 40
>>>Nog Kitteh
That sounds like some abandoned Numenorean fortress that Frodo and the Fellowship had to avoid so they wound up in Moria Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at December 26, 2014 02:47 PM (3ZtZW) 41
I've been employed all year, which is nice.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2014 02:47 PM (vbb1N) 42
"I wouldn't know."
I got a brother and sister within 100 miles of me. What are they doing? Shit if I know. I'm minding my business. All I know. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 02:47 PM (MMWhx) 43
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Pretty thankful 2014 is over. Posted by: Garrett ^THIS^ Mainly because while this year had its good times it mostly sucked. Posted by: Gmac- Pondering...something involving a Chinese invention that goes BOOM at December 26, 2014 02:47 PM (baiNQ) 44
I am thankful that the most significant celebration of my country's dominant religion is a very pleasant thing indeed.
And I hope it remains dominant for a very long time. Merry Christmas! [from a Jew, in case you didn't know] Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 02:47 PM (Zu3d9) 45
Or as they say, "Your kids already have friends. What they need from you is a parent."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 02:48 PM (kff5f) Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 02:50 PM (rc7Bk) 47
[from a Jew, in case you didn't know]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 02:47 PM (Zu3d9) And renowned anti-Semite. (That will stop being funny only shortly before ace banning himself from the blog does). Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 02:52 PM (kff5f) 48
I'm grateful for coffee. And $1.70/gal gasoline.
Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 02:53 PM (z9qsk) 49
For what are you most thankful?
My hubby survived cancer. Will be really thankful when the d@mn chemo is done..... Posted by: Lizzy at December 26, 2014 02:53 PM (ABcz/) 50
And I am thankful for the bottle of Bailey's I just noticed in the fridge! Origin unknown at this time. Hmm.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 02:54 PM (q8+L+) 51
Yeah, I count my blessing, NOW get off my lawn.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 02:54 PM (0FSuD) 52
And I am thankful for the bottle of Bailey's I just noticed in the fridge! Origin unknown at this time. Hmm. Posted by: Infidel Look carefully for a clear plastic string attached to the bottle. Somebody might be trying to snag an Infidel. Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 02:55 PM (/Ho8c) Posted by: blessings at December 26, 2014 02:56 PM (UWFpX) 54
Middle Daughter is due in August. Just found out about it last night. They sent me a Christmas card that said:
*clears throat* "Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle all the way Oh what fun it is to say a baby's on the way!" (they have given me permission to make a big deal of it.) Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2014 02:56 PM (6fyGz) 55
I am grateful for all my invisible friends. And even the invisible trolls. Don't ever change.
Posted by: ALH at December 26, 2014 02:57 PM (EFzXp) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 02:57 PM (kff5f) 57
And I am thankful for the bottle of Bailey's I just noticed in the fridge! Origin unknown at this time. Hmm.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 02:54 PM (q8+L+) Be sure to check the date on it. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2014 02:57 PM (6fyGz) 58
Nuke family is very important. But beating kids is wrong, I don't care what a kid does you don't hit them. Same goes for dogs.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 02:57 PM (0LHZx) 59
@54 Middle Daughter is due in August. Just found out about it last night. They sent me a Christmas card that said:
*clears throat* "Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle all the way Oh what fun it is to say a baby's on the way!" (they have given me permission to make a big deal of it.) ---------------------- Congrats! Posted by: blessings at December 26, 2014 02:57 PM (UWFpX) 60
First Grandbaby?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 02:57 PM (kff5f) No, but the second one from the kid who said she was never going to have kids at all. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2014 02:58 PM (6fyGz) 61
Congrats, GGE!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 26, 2014 02:58 PM (ABcz/) 62
Nuke family is very important. But beating kids is wrong, I don't care what a kid does you don't hit them. Same goes for dogs.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo "Beating" and "spanking" are not quite the same. But I can respect your different opinion. Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 02:59 PM (/Ho8c) Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 02:59 PM (MQEz6) 64
"Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to say a baby's on the way!" (they have given me permission to make a big deal of it.) Posted by: GGE of the Moron Yay! Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 02:59 PM (xgvvD) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:00 PM (MMWhx) 66
LOL. It's just weird. I used to make my own but can no longer find one ingredient. I bought a bottle to have for desert on Christmas eve as I didn't bake this year. Just went to grab a brewski and there are 2 bottles in there.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:00 PM (q8+L+) 67
Congratulations, GGE!
Posted by: ALH at December 26, 2014 03:00 PM (EFzXp) 68
I'm also extremely thanksfilled for all the pigs who died this year to make my life more delicious.
I am definitely not thankful at all that my otherwise lovely wife has nixed the idea of trawling the craigslist for free bunnies & guinea pigs. Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at December 26, 2014 03:00 PM (MbqmP) 69
I'm also thankful for Ace and all of you goofs (and goofettes)!
Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2014 03:00 PM (9BRsg) 70
Congrats to somebody having a baby. I've lost track.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:01 PM (MMWhx) 71
I am thankful for John C. Garand. Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 02:42 PM (/Ho8c) and John Moses Browning (pbuh). OK, youngest son is dragging me off to the game store. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil! Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2014 03:01 PM (6fyGz) 72
I'm thankful for the 18 inches of snow the mountains are supposed to get tomorrow. Ski season has sucked so far this year.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 03:01 PM (0LHZx) 73
Oh, GGE, sorry.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:01 PM (MMWhx) 74
(they have given me permission to make a big deal of it.)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2014 02:56 PM (6fyGz) I hate you! Was hoping recently married son would tell us wife was expecting, but alas no news. She's a "professional woman" so in all due course. Also was hoping oldest son would axe long time girl friend the question, but alas again, nothing. Fish or cut bait boys. No, don't start back with the puns. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:02 PM (0FSuD) 75
But beating kids is wrong, I don't care what a kid does you don't hit them. Same goes for dogs.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo I. Would. Have. Owned. You. if you would have been my parent. Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 03:02 PM (xgvvD) 76
I'm also extremely thanksfilled for all the pigs who died this year to make my life more delicious.
--- I'm thankful for Charlie Brown Di's advice on how to roast this pork rib roast, which I am not going to bother tying into a "crown." Going to fry and gobble the Italian rice balls while the pork roasts. Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2014 03:02 PM (9BRsg) 77
Moo Moo has kids?
Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:02 PM (MQEz6) Posted by: Meremortal at December 26, 2014 03:02 PM (1Y+hH) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:03 PM (MMWhx) Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 03:03 PM (0LHZx) 81
Proverbs 13:24, Moo Moo.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at December 26, 2014 03:04 PM (MbqmP) 82
Yeah, Baily's has cream in it. I just discovered a handle of it in one of my bars. I have a bad feeling it's five years old.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:04 PM (0FSuD) 83
I thank heaven for little girls.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at December 26, 2014 03:05 PM (MOjUR) 84
Many blessing on Mother-to-be and Baby ... and Proud Grandpa ...
Posted by: Adriane the Pagan Holiday of Saturnalia Critic ... at December 26, 2014 03:05 PM (P+IZm) 85
Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 03:02 PM (xgvvD)
Yup. Threat of bodily harm is the ultimate (and sometimes only) way to gain compliance. And there is nothing wrong with it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 03:05 PM (Zu3d9) 86
" John Moses Browning"
Heh. Santa gave Mr Y-not a 50 cal shell bottle opener this year. http://www.bullets2bandages.org/50-caliber-bullet-bottle-opener/ Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2014 03:05 PM (9BRsg) 87
I'm thankful to be working a job I love in a State I love in a Country I love with the woman I love. Other then that meh!!
Posted by: NativeNH at December 26, 2014 03:06 PM (bG+xU) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 03:06 PM (kff5f) 89
Thankful for my Mr H. I am so blessed to have him in my life.
Posted by: ALH at December 26, 2014 03:06 PM (EFzXp) 90
But beating kids is wrong, I don't care what a kid does you don't hit them. Same goes for dogs. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
I. Would. Have. Owned. You. if you would have been my parent. Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 03:02 PM (xgvvD) -------------------------------------------- Same here. I pushed the envelope enough with my parents. Without the occasional physical corrections, I would have slashed through that envelope and started tapdancing on the other side. Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 03:06 PM (z9qsk) 91
I looked at dates. The one I bought says best before 12/10. The mysterious one says 10/16. The alcohol will kill any bad stuff. Tasted great after the prime rib.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:06 PM (q8+L+) 92
75 But beating kids is wrong, I don't care what a kid does you don't hit them. Same goes for dogs.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo I. Would. Have. Owned. You. if you would have been my parent. Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 03:02 PM (xgvvD) Parenting by fear is not the way to effectively parent. I want my kids to respect me not be afraid of me. For the most part they are both very well behaved, without me ever having struck them. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 03:06 PM (0LHZx) 93
"And there is nothing wrong with it."
No there is not. Had my ass whipped a lot as a kid. It did make me stop doing stupid shit. And I was dumb. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:07 PM (MMWhx) 94
Picking out the switch you are going to get slapped with is a great way to make it clear who is in control.
Better they learn early. Not learning will get them killed. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:07 PM (0FSuD) Posted by: Fox2! at December 26, 2014 03:07 PM (brIR5) 96
And I was dumb.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:07 PM (MMWhx) Well, you weren't the only one. It amuses me when I hear people talk about the intelligence of children and teenagers. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 03:08 PM (Zu3d9) 97
Saw on FB and Twitter yesterday links to a sobbing article about how Garner's family will face their first Christmas without him
Two families are still in shock after Ramos and Liu were executed by a Sharpton inspired thug 5 days before Christmas So when proggies tell you that criticism of the police does not mean hatred of police, they can go piss up a rope They're using the same bullshit line they used for the Iraq war; "We're against the war but of course we support the troops" after sending links about "atrocities" Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2014 03:08 PM (GrXXa) 98
I have two kids and did not do much by way of spanking, but they knew it was there sitting in its silo, waiting for the launch code.
Mostly I got them to behave by setting limits that made sense and by setting a good example. However, they knew not to make look at the red phone. Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:08 PM (MQEz6) 99
Parenting by fear is not the way to effectively parent. I want my kids to respect me not be afraid of me. For the most part they are both very well behaved, without me ever having struck them.
Just wait until they learn to walk... Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2014 03:09 PM (vbb1N) 100
No there is not. Had my ass whipped a lot as a kid. It did make me stop doing stupid shit. And I was dumb.
This. Ditto. Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:09 PM (q8+L+) 101
Moo Moo, I agree with some of that. I never had to spank my sons, BUT they knew I would. A some point, you are NOT their friend, you are their parent.
These "friend" parents at my school? All their kids were bad news. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:09 PM (0FSuD) 102
I Just saw a segment on Rachael Ray about a guy who mentors kids and he said, "It's easier to raise boys than it is to fix men." Love that. I'm thankful for good fathers everywhere.
Posted by: Dollar Store Sock at December 26, 2014 03:10 PM (c+gwp) 103
94 Picking out the switch you are going to get slapped with is a great way to make it clear who is in control.
Better they learn early. Not learning will get them killed. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:07 PM (0FSuD) You could learn as well sans the physical abuse. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 03:11 PM (0LHZx) Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 03:11 PM (/Ho8c) Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:12 PM (MQEz6) 106
Anybody remember the MASH Boxing Day episode? I know that came from the later seasons, but that always comes to mind when someone mentions Boxing Day.
Posted by: bretzysdude at December 26, 2014 03:12 PM (1brPs) 107
Here's a feel good story. I would take anyone on a cell phone to this court.
Might be fire walled. NY Slime http://tinyurl.com/lnx6ex6 Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:12 PM (0FSuD) 108
Parenting by fear is not the way to effectively parent. I want my kids to respect me not be afraid of me.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 03:06 PM (0LHZx) It's pretty simple: if your kids respect you, go with that. If they disrespect you, beat them until that changes. It's a hell of a lot better than them growing up like the little shits that graffiti on everything, throw rocks through windows, & burn down buildings around here. Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at December 26, 2014 03:12 PM (MbqmP) Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2014 03:12 PM (GrXXa) 110
I guess it depends if you are alpha or beta. I always knew right from wrong, just pushed too much and had to suffer the punishment.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:12 PM (q8+L+) 111
I was my mom's pet but she slapped me once for slammng the door on her.
Disrespect was verboten. It was mostly my ego that was hurt. Posted by: votermom at December 26, 2014 03:13 PM (gqnWk) 112
Most thankful for American womanhood, epitomized in Kate Upton. And for getting laid this year, though she gave me some kind of itch.
Posted by: Sphynx at December 26, 2014 03:13 PM (OZmbA) 113
Feh.
Fucking troll. Anyway, back to thanksgiving. I have two great kids and plenty of fine friends (and a few hot ones). Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (MQEz6) 114
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Oh for pity's sake. It is healthy to fear logical consequences for your actions. Logical consequences, in this context, are modified versions of natural consequences. Running into the street, refusing to wear a seatbelt/submit to a car seat has a natural consequence of great, lasting pain, so it's good, reasonable and loving for parents to use a small, temporary pain to teach their kids to avoid those actions. Same applies to starting fights, mouthing off to the wrong person, generally refusing to live by a certain amount of civilized rules. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (wBFBl) 115
Also was hoping oldest son would axe long time girl friend the question, but alas again, nothing.
Fish or cut bait boys. No, don't start back with the puns. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:02 PM (0FSuD) ************** With respect, there's no good reason outside religion for a male to get married in contemporary America. Getting right with God is paramount if you lean that way, but if you don't, there's no reason to put half your ass(ets) and more on the line for the typical American female. There are always exceptions, but then again, everybody thinks they are the exception. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (vgIRn) 116
My Dad was pretty heavy handed. We just learned to be sneaky about the crap we pulled. I was not heavy handed ( although VERY verbal) with my kids. They turned out ok.
Posted by: NativeNH at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (bG+xU) 117
For clarification. And, Moo Moo, count yourself very lucky. Until I was about 12 or 13 (when "grounding" actually became effective) the only way to get my compliance in some things was a swat from Mom or Dad. And, sure, with my own kids I guess I could weedle and whine and say "pretty please with sugar on it." I could even simply keep telling them to do whatever it is until they do it. But a quick swat to the behind (which rarely even causes pain) is a much faster method, and rarely has to be repeated. I have better things to do in the rearing of my children than have the same fights with them every day. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (kff5f) 118
Wow. Too many things to be grateful for to list. I love your list, though, Y-not.
On Boxing Day Dinner: We'll probably have some of the same things we had for Christmas dinner: Pozole and Garlic Chicken. I guess a lot of people around here are eating Pozole. Supermarket is totally out of radishes until tomorrow. We have to substitute turnips. Heh. Posted by: KTbarthedoor at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (qahv/) 119
physical abuse.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 03:11 PM (0LHZx) You have an interesting talent for taking a defensible contrary position and then being an asshole about it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (Zu3d9) 120
Pain.
The great educator. It doesn't care about age, weight, gender, race, or religion. It just teaches. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (MMWhx) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 03:16 PM (Zu3d9) 122
101 Moo Moo, I agree with some of that. I never had to spank my sons, BUT they knew I would. A some point, you are NOT their friend, you are their parent.
These "friend" parents at my school? All their kids were bad news. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:09 PM (0FSuD) I agree with the parent as friend thing is a bad idea. But not hitting while also disciplining are not mutually exclusive. I set rules, boundaries. If the rules are broken there is punishment but the punishment is not physical. It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other where the kid runs wild or he beaten. There is a happy meddle. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 03:16 PM (0LHZx) 123
Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:12 PM (MQEz6)
Seconded. Anyone who calls (appropriately restrained, of course) spankings "abuse" has no clue of what they speak. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 03:16 PM (kff5f) 124
Parenting by fear is not the way to effectively parent. I want my kids to respect me not be afraid of me. For the most part they are both very well behaved, without me ever having struck them.
Every kid is different. Look at my sister cross eyed, she'd bust out crying. Look at me cross eyed, with no threat of a spanking, and I would have suggested you see an eye doctor. Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 03:18 PM (xgvvD) 125
121 (and a few hot ones).
Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (MQEz6) Do I have to say it? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 03:16 PM (Zu3d9) Sorry, you'll have to accept kbdabear's substitutes. Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:19 PM (MQEz6) 126
With respect, there's no good reason outside religion for a male to get married in contemporary America.
Well, hard to argue that point, but most white upper class folks still give it a try, because it's the right thing to do. That and children from married families have a huge advantage in life. Oh, and we have religion although it is getting less judgmental, not to my liking. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:19 PM (0FSuD) 127
And what do you do when time-outs, go to your room, no tv, grounded all don't work?
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:20 PM (q8+L+) 128
Thankful that my wife's chemo was successful and that she is in remission and that we've had Ace's place with he and the cobs to give us humor and a levity during our months of tribulation.
Posted by: Catmman at December 26, 2014 03:20 PM (aRB23) 129
You could learn as well sans the physical abuse.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 03:11 PM (0LHZx) ---------------------------------------- So you're calling my parents and grandparents abusers? Fuck you! Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 03:20 PM (z9qsk) 130
128 Thankful that my wife's chemo was successful and that she is in remission and that we've had Ace's place with he and the cobs to give us humor and a levity during our months of tribulation. Posted by: Catmman at December 26, 2014 03:20 PM (aRB23 Snoopy Dance! Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:21 PM (MQEz6) Posted by: Big Mike the steam shovel at December 26, 2014 03:21 PM (W6iIX) 132
Y'know what dissuaded me from getting married for a long time? The fact that white girls seemed to want to party and screw indiscriminately until they suddenly decided they wanted to wear white and start a family. Just kind of distasteful to me.
Posted by: Sphynx at December 26, 2014 03:21 PM (OZmbA) 133
Congrats Catmman, that is truly something to be thankful for.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:21 PM (q8+L+) 134
Anyone who calls (appropriately restrained, of course) spankings "abuse" has no clue of what they speak.
It suggests that said person was either physically abused as a child or never spanked themselves, and thus doesn't understand what physical chastisement done is in love looks like. Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2014 03:22 PM (vbb1N) 135
Having been a kid that would push boundaries and parents that didn't spare the rod, I learned that there were consequences to my actions. Far too many special snowflakes in the world today that never got that particular message. They spend entirely too much capital blaming everyone and everything else for their self inflicted misfortunes.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 03:22 PM (vVSOO) 136
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And what do you do when time-outs, go to your room, no tv, grounded all don't work? Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:20 PM (q8+L+) Water boarding or switch? Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:22 PM (0FSuD) 137
128 Thankful that my wife's chemo was successful and that she is in remission
Posted by: Catmman at December 26, 2014 03:20 PM (aRB23) Oo-rah. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 26, 2014 03:23 PM (vgIRn) Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2014 03:23 PM (vbb1N) 139
So you're calling my parents and grandparents abusers? Fuck you!
Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 03:20 PM (z9qsk) Don't hold back, how do you REALLY feel? Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:24 PM (0FSuD) 140
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Or more likely, as noted by CBD above, it indicates that the person is being kind of an ass. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 26, 2014 03:24 PM (wBFBl) 141
For what are you most thankful?
I'm thankful that I got very serious about working out and watching my diet this year. Despite turning 50 this year, I'm in just about the best shape of my life. Lots of hard work and yes, some sacrifice. But I'm 50 and I have a 6-pack. I gotta feel pretty good about that. Posted by: Citizen X-mas at December 26, 2014 03:24 PM (7ObY1) 142
Wooden spoon.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:24 PM (q8+L+) Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2014 03:24 PM (W5DcG) 144
54 Huzzah, GGE!
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2014 03:24 PM (u82oZ) 145
Thankful to be healthy even though living with cancer. Thankful my son's first semester at college was a breeze for him. Thankful my husband and I are happy together and successful in our careers. So very thankful for everything.
Posted by: NCKate at December 26, 2014 03:25 PM (Ib+/H) 146
Y'know what dissuaded me from getting married for a long time? The fact that white girls seemed to want to party and screw indiscriminately until they suddenly decided they wanted to wear white and start a family. Just kind of distasteful to me.
Posted by: Sphynx at December 26, 2014 03:21 PM (OZmbA) ------------------------------------- And even then, the chance of them having an affair is well over 50%. If I had to do over again it would be with an Southeast or East Asian woman. Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 03:25 PM (z9qsk) 147
And what do you do when time-outs, go to your room, no tv, grounded all don't work?
Ask again. Then beg. Then capitulate. Then hand me the keys to the kingdom. Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 03:25 PM (xgvvD) Posted by: irongrampa at December 26, 2014 03:27 PM (jeCnD) Posted by: Electro Monkey at December 26, 2014 03:27 PM (Ua6T/) 150
147 And what do you do when time-outs, go to your room, no tv, grounded all don't work--------------
Social Services won't like my answer. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 03:28 PM (2Aj5D) 151
Wooden spoon.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:24 PM (q8+L+) My mother smacked me with a wooden spoon and it broke. And I laughed. In retrospect that was not a wise decision. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 03:28 PM (Zu3d9) 152
The fleas navidog is cute.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:28 PM (q8+L+) 153
AMC showed White Christmas several times this year and last.
I watch it and like it a lot. It's a new Christmas favorite for me. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 26, 2014 03:29 PM (oFCZn) 154
In retrospect that was not a wise decision.
Did that too. Not good. She just bought stronger wooden spoons. Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:29 PM (q8+L+) 155
109 Eric Garner's daughter posts address of cop at his death
http://tinyurl.com/qbgsjgz Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2014 03:12 PM (GrXXa) Interesting. He had another daughter who went to a memorial for the murdered police officers. This one sounds like a class act. https://tinyurl.com/kf4fpcb Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2014 03:31 PM (zoehZ) 156
My mother smacked me with a wooden spoon and it broke. And I laughed.
In retrospect that was not a wise decision. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 03:28 PM (Zu3d9) --------Similar story with my Mom. Of course in the retelling over these many years, the wooden ruler grew to be a two by four that she had soaked in kerosene for ninety days. Mom used to throw stuff at me when I told that story. And she was a pretty good shot. Still have the knots on my head. Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 03:31 PM (vVSOO) 157
See? I told you I sensed a pointless internet argument brewing. Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 26, 2014 03:31 PM (XK/4h) 158
146 Y'know what dissuaded me from getting married for a long time? The fact that white girls seemed to want to party and screw indiscriminately until they suddenly decided they wanted to wear white and start a family. Just kind of distasteful to me.
Posted by: Sphynx at December 26, 2014 03:21 PM (OZmbA) ------------------------------------- And even then, the chance of them having an affair is well over 50%. If I had to do over again it would be with an Southeast or East Asian woman. Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 03:25 PM (z9qsk) Yeah, sigh. I let a great gal from China slip away. Oh well, at least I got to spend some with her. Grateful for that. Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:31 PM (MQEz6) 159
I have always been partial to Christmas in Connecticut. But then I like Barbara Stanwyck.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:31 PM (q8+L+) Posted by: irongrampa at December 26, 2014 03:31 PM (jeCnD) Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:31 PM (0FSuD) 162
151 Wooden spoon.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:24 PM (q8+L+) My mother smacked me with a wooden spoon and it broke. And I laughed. In retrospect that was not a wise decision. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo Don't know what you call it. Looked like a table tennis paddle with a string stapled to it with a rubber ball on the end. After the string broke Mom thought it would be a neat paddle until she broke it in half over my ass. I think that I had called my little brother either a bastard or a little son of a bitch to her face. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 03:32 PM (2Aj5D) 163
I'm thankful for Hawaiian Christmas vacations that I don't have to pay for, golf, Marthas Vineyard summer vacations that I don't have to pay for, golf, my Nobel Peace Prize, waffles, golf, and a media that would happily blow me at the snap of my fingers.
Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at December 26, 2014 03:32 PM (i0wGQ) 164
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Ever notice the older you get, the smarter your parents become? Posted by: irongrampa at December 26, 2014 03:31 PM (jeCnD At 13 my parents were pretty stupid, by the time I was 25 they sure had smarted up quite a bit. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 03:33 PM (2Aj5D) 165
Does getting thrown into the metal shelves in the garage and beaten on the thighs, arms, face and head with a wooden spoon at age 8 count? I spilled some paint while taking it out to the garbage. Unforgivable, I know.
MADE ME A MAN, I TELL YER!!!!!! I'm not too far away from Moo Moo on this one. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 26, 2014 03:34 PM (vgIRn) 166
Abusers: My mom certainly was, with no exaggeration needed. She's better now mostly because she's frail and elderly. My dad never was, but came off very "Get off my lawn"
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at December 26, 2014 03:34 PM (3ZtZW) 167
Just read in the sidebar about the magma plume that's growing under Oklahoma. Holy shit!
Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 03:35 PM (z9qsk) 168
Ever notice the older you get, the smarter your parents become?
Posted by: irongrampa At 13 my parents were pretty stupid, by the time I was 25 they sure had smarted up quite a bit. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian By the time I was 40, they were geniuses. Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 03:35 PM (xgvvD) 169
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You have an interesting talent for taking a defensible contrary position and then being an asshole about it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 26, 2014 03:14 PM (Zu3d9) So, MMM is actually Neal Boortz? Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik's on vacation at December 26, 2014 03:35 PM (MOjUR) 170
And even then, the chance of them having an affair
is well over 50%. If I had to do over again it would be with an Southeast or East Asian woman. Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 03:25 PM (z9qsk) Yeah, sigh. I let a great gal from China slip away. Oh well, at least I got to spend some with her. Grateful for that. Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:31 PM (MQEz6) I'm thankful for both of you. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:35 PM (AC0lD) 171
I'm not too far away from Moo Moo on this one.
Posted by: Just Some Guy I think what you just described was a "beating," and neither "spanking" nor what I would consider valid corporal punishment. The objective isn't to inflict pain as a punishment, but rather to provide punctuation to a teachable moment. Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 03:37 PM (/Ho8c) 172
Good to know some people prepare their children for a world free from the threat of violence. This will come in handy, never.
Posted by: Garrett at December 26, 2014 03:37 PM (nDU7D) 173
Feel good story. Jet Blue has offered to fly two police officers from every city they fly to, to NYC for police funeral services.
They also are arranging for flights for Chinese officer's family to come from China. JET BLUE! Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:37 PM (0FSuD) 174
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 26, 2014 03:34 PM (vgIRn)
See, *that* was abuse. There's a *huge* difference between that and a couple of swats to a well padded posterior. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 26, 2014 03:37 PM (GDulk) 175
Does getting thrown into the metal shelves in the garage and beaten on the thighs, arms, face and head with a wooden spoon at age 8 count?
Yes. That counts as actual abuse. A spanking is generally on the butt (sometimes the kid wiggles, so you miss by an inch or two). When a man does it, it's usually with his hand unless you've committed An Serious Offense, in which case a switch or belt may enter the picture. When a woman does it, it will 50/50 whether she uses her hand or some form of paddle (my mom liked a fly swatter). The most swats I ever got for one offense (lying to my parents) was 5. Usually it was one or two. The point of a spanking is not actually to cause "harm." It often does not even need to cause *pain* (on the very rare occasions I have to swat either of my kids, no pain is inflicted- it's more of a reminder than I *can* inflict pain if I must). The point of spanking is actual discipline (I, not my child, am in charge. Failing to act as the rules require will lead to consequences. Etc.). I'm sorry that you were beaten as a child, but do not confuse your own beating with actual disciplined spanking. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 03:40 PM (kff5f) 176
Good to know some people prepare their
children for a world free from the threat of violence. This will come in handy, never. Posted by: Garrett That, and the crushing let down when someone doesn't respect their authori-tay Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 03:40 PM (xgvvD) Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2014 03:41 PM (0FSuD) 178
>>>Does getting thrown into the metal shelves in the garage and beaten on the thighs, arms, face and head with a wooden spoon at age 8 count?
Nope. Electrical cords as whips, pots filled with chili or soup, chef's knives thrown at your feet when you're screaming in the corner - those count. But, hear ya, bra Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at December 26, 2014 03:41 PM (3ZtZW) 179
Excellent, AllenG.
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 03:41 PM (/Ho8c) 180
108 Parenting by fear is not the way to effectively parent. I want my kids to respect me not be afraid of me.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 26, 2014 03:06 PM (0LHZx What a fucking joke....... Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 03:41 PM (l1zOH) 181
I'm very sorry for you, Bigby and Some Guy. Horrible.
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 03:42 PM (/Ho8c) 182
Yea, that lying thing will always get you. You learn pretty quick after that.
I caught my daughter lying one time. She knew it was wrong. I think she was about 8. I calmly gave her the choice of being grounded or a spanking. Guess which she picked? No more lies. Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:43 PM (q8+L+) 183
I'm thankful that I don't personally know some of these morons here.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 03:43 PM (l1zOH) 184
Soona, I got more of an impression that they were blaming injection wells. The east Denver/Aurora area used to get a number of 3-4 magnitude temblors in the 1960's when the Rocky Mountain Arsenal was disposing of waste in deep wells. Once they stopped, the earthquakes stopped. But if there is a growing magma plume under that area, that changes everything. And not in a good way. How would you like to have your very own volcano in your backyard? And that could complicate my escape plans for when Yellowstone blows.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 03:44 PM (vVSOO) 185
I posted this Christmas morning, but I'll do it again. What you see there is the luckiest kid in the world. Christmas morning (more years ago than I care to recall), and sitting on that chair is a shiny new Jensen Model 5 steam engine. I played with that thing for years. I'm surprised it never threw a rod, and that my mother endured the periodic shriek of the whistle.
http://tinyurl.com/kyrrjqe Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 26, 2014 03:45 PM (vPh3W) 186
>>And why to Frats have BIG wooden paddles for each pledge?
>>Surely they don't use them? My dad had one of those from his college days. Used to keep it hanging on a hook in the front closet. My mom and dad used to run this game on me (my sister was the angelic type, did not apply to her) whenever I would get in trouble which was often. My mother would never deal out the punishment, that was dad's job. She would just send me to my room and say "Wait until your father gets home." and send me to my room. He would make me stand in a corner facing the wall after making sure I saw the paddle. He would just wave the paddle behind me so I could hear the wind whistling and slap it on his hand. Used to scare the shit out of me. Never hit me with it but he always left me with "Next time .." Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2014 03:46 PM (g1DWB) 187
83 I thank heaven for little girls.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at December 26, 2014 03:05 PM (MOjUR) Cut. Jib. Newsletter? Posted by: Del Joe Morrissey, D-Richmond at December 26, 2014 03:46 PM (+Fae7) 188
Isn't the San Andreas Fault way overdue?
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:47 PM (q8+L+) 189
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I'm sorry you went through that. That sort of abuse is definitely not effective discipline, and doesn't fall under a reasonable definition of spanking. I can see how being physically abused as a kid could make you feel strongly about erring on the side of "no physical punishment". Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 26, 2014 03:47 PM (wBFBl) 190
Sorry, you'll have to accept kbdabear's substitutes.
Posted by: eman at December 26, 2014 03:19 PM (MQEz6) Accept No Substitutes https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/548580722597199873 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/548580914503352322 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/548581349096181761 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/548581763224989696 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/548582006087745538 Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2014 03:47 PM (GrXXa) 191
"
I'm thankful that I don't personally know some of these morons here." Well, you can't always find berries. Good. Bad. In-between. And watch the in-between. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:49 PM (MMWhx) 192
Also, since I've been dragged into the discussion...
Giving spankings (real, disciplined spankings) is no more "parenting by fear" than any other from of corrective discipline. Whether it's "fear" of time-out, groundings, or the switch, all children start obeying out of "fear" of whatever negative consequence is used. The "respect" comes later, when they're able to understand (to some extent, at least) the actual motivation behind the negative consequences- to whit: your love of them and knowledge that withholding the consequence will actually get them into more trouble later. My children do not fear me. They even know the difference in tone of voice so I can use, "Do you need a spanking?" as either a joke OR and actual threat with equal facility. But they also know that when Dad asks, in a serious tone, "Do you need a spanking?" that discussion has ended and they can either comply with the current instruction or get swats. Nineteen times out of 20, they comply. That 20th time, they normally get one quick swat and an admonition not to seek another. Further, disciplined use of spanking can make clear the distinction between "because we say so" or "situational" rules (don't be loud *here*, for instance) and "for your safety" rules (don't touch the electrical outlet). I can spare plenty of time to tell my kids "kids, stop running in my house," and it will be fine. If one of them defies me about how close they play to the fire place, stove, or oven, they're going to get a swat, because I *don't* have plenty of time to teach them the dangers involved. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 03:49 PM (kff5f) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 03:49 PM (l1zOH) 194
Hammer, nice. That is my Grandpa's robe. I still wear it, but with many patches.
Posted by: Infidel at December 26, 2014 03:49 PM (q8+L+) 195
Soona, I got more of an impression that they were blaming injection wells. The east Denver/Aurora area used to get a number of 3-4 magnitude temblors in the 1960's when the Rocky Mountain Arsenal was disposing of waste in deep wells. Once they stopped, the earthquakes stopped. But if there is a growing magma plume under that area, that changes everything. And not in a good way. How would you like to have your very own volcano in your backyard? And that could complicate my escape plans for when Yellowstone blows.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 03:44 PM (vVSOO) ------------------------------------ There's no secret to injection wells. All they are are old dry oil wells drilled no deeper than any other well in the area. And as the article stated, OK has been using fracking for decades, which meansinjection wells have been used for disposal for decades. I used them more times than I can remember when I was working in the OK oilpatch in the early 80's. Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 03:50 PM (z9qsk) 196
Hour and a half or so until the one who cannot be named shows up?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:50 PM (MMWhx) 197
Christmas Eve services I saw a little boy, maybe 5 or 6, sitting in church in his wheelchair. It reminded me how truly thankful I am for my three healthy grandchildren. Sometimes I tend to take these blessings for granted. Thanks for this thread. Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 26, 2014 03:51 PM (dFi94) 198
kbdabear - doing the websearches that the rest of us refuse to do! And posting fap worthy material! *bows in kbdabear's direction* We are truly not worthy!
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 03:51 PM (vVSOO) 199
196 Hour and a half or so until the one who cannot be named shows up?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:50 PM (MMWhx) Talk about berries. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 03:52 PM (l1zOH) 200
And yes, I spank them when necessary. Not often, but it's been known to happen.
Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 26, 2014 03:52 PM (dFi94) 201
Hate that grammie.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:52 PM (MMWhx) 202
>>>I'm very sorry for you, Bigby and Some Guy. Horrible.
Nothing to be sorry for. Non ignara mali, miseris succurrere disco Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at December 26, 2014 03:52 PM (3ZtZW) 203
Thankful for the gift of faith, for my wonderful family, for this place and youse guys, you made me laugh out loud at several inopportune times this last year!
Posted by: Taqyia2Me at December 26, 2014 03:53 PM (Ixqnq) 204
So, MMM is actually Neal Boortz?
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik's on vacation at December 26, 2014 03:35 PM (MOjUR) They do have identical points of view. Haven't heard Neal since he retired from radio. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2014 03:53 PM (W5DcG) 205
Didn't read the entire thread, but how did we go from comments about being thankful to debates on corporal punishment?
I am thankful for the Holy Spirit active in my life and the worldand for my call to ministry. I an thankful for my mother who instilled in me a love for reading and for the many books which make me laugh and learn and admire the brilliancy of the authors and which nurture my faith I am thankful for FenelonSpouse whom I had the good sense to marry over 25 years ago and who is ally against the terrible teen. ;^) He's not really THAT terrrible-mostly. I am glad I am not related to Al Sharpton or Bill DeBlasio. :^) That's just a few thanksgivings. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2014 03:53 PM (Dj3AB) 206
...how lucky I was to have a mom and dad who raised me with love and wisdom. Mom went to Heaven many years ago, but I still have my dad. This past year I have made sure that each and every time we talk, I tell him that I love him and I thank him for all he and my mom did for me.
I'm thankful that my negligent and narcissistic parents live so far away that I don't have to see them much and pretend that I'm grateful. Sorry, but that's the truth, in my case. Posted by: zombie at December 26, 2014 03:54 PM (K4YiS) 207
They do have identical points of view.
Haven't heard Neal since he retired from radio. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2014 03:53 PM (W5DcG He was on that Great American's radio show a week or 2 ago. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 03:55 PM (l1zOH) 208
That kitten looks like our old Mikel cat who died over a year ago at age 18. Mikel was fambly. I miss him a lot, but hey, according to Il Papa we gone meet again t'other side.
Posted by: Erowmero at December 26, 2014 03:55 PM (go5uR) 209
Or single ply kleenex
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Only use single ply when you want to get in touch with yourself. Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 03:56 PM (xgvvD) 210
I am thankful that this year
- when my middle moonbat Princeton inhabiting son started up with his crap at Christmas dinner - I wasn't the one to jump on him. I didn't get a chance to open my mouth when my older son and youngest daughter, previously strident Princeton inhabiting moonbats themselves, jumped on him. It was fun to listen to. Something changed the past few years...wonder what it was. Posted by: trainer at December 26, 2014 03:57 PM (7EbAY) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 03:57 PM (MMWhx) 212
That kitten looks like our old Mikel cat who died over a year ago at age 18. Mikel was fambly. I miss him a lot, but hey, according to Il Papa we gone meet again t'other side.
Posted by: Erowmero at December 26, 2014 03:55 PM (go5uR) ----------------------------------------- I do believe that. Our spirits will meet some how, some way. Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 03:58 PM (z9qsk) 213
198 kbdabear - doing the websearches that the rest of us refuse to do! And posting fap worthy material! *bows in kbdabear's direction* We are truly not worthy!
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 03:51 PM (vVSOO) Pinterest is my friend with that, along with a FB group a few of us have for those Compliance Pics. My fellow Morons have good research skills along with a steady supply of Kleenex Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2014 03:58 PM (GrXXa) 214
Deutsche Bank is open to offers
for its London-based gold vault following the closure of its physical precious metals business, three sources familiar with the matter said on Wednesday. ... it can only hold 1,500 tonnes of gold. Posted by: Gordon Gecko at December 26, 2014 04:00 PM (e8kgV) 215
My wife grew up in a 'tough love' household. She recounted to me, years later, how her own Mother told her Father, "You're not hitting them hard enough" while her Father beat her and her brother. Finally tally? One sociopath brother who has killed once, stabbed some guy 13 times who kinda survived for a while before dying, many decades of drug and alcohol abuse, etc. Another brother alcohol abusing misfit with multiple dui offenses, early grave with liver cancer. Sister borderline personality, can look you in the face and lie. Wasted 1/3rd of her life. Another brother drug and alcohol abuser, ate a bullet after his wife (with infant child) told him to clean up or she was leaving.
It's a fine line. Cross it and ruin a life or lives. Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at December 26, 2014 04:01 PM (zxQ4h) 216
214 Deutsche Bank is open to offers
for its London-based gold vault following the closure of its physical precious metals business, three sources familiar with the matter said on Wednesday. ... it can only hold 1,500 tonnes of gold. Posted by: Gordon Gecko at December 26, 2014 04:00 PM (e8kgV Can we throw all the gold hawkers in there? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 04:01 PM (l1zOH) 217
I am thankful that this made me laugh. I guess I have an odd sense of humor. Someone hired a plane to fly over the Hudson River with an antii DeBlasio slogan.
http://tinyurl.com/qg6fybr I am thankful I had no plans to go into NYC on New Year's Eve and I pray for the safety of the people who will be there. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2014 04:01 PM (Dj3AB) 218
1,500 tonnes of gold .. that's about $60 billion
Posted by: Gordon Gecko at December 26, 2014 04:02 PM (e8kgV) 219
Deutsche Bank is open to offers for its London-based gold vault following the closure of its physical precious metals business, three sources familiar with the matter said on Wednesday. ... it can only hold 1,500 tonnes of gold. Posted by: Gordon Gecko at December 26, 2014 04:00 PM (e8kgV
Can we throw all the gold hawkers in there? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 04:01 PM (l1zOH) ----------------------------------------- Could Glenn Beck do his show in it? Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 04:03 PM (z9qsk) 220
I'm thankful for rape culture, because without it I wouldn't have a job.
Posted by: Sabrina Rubin Erdely at December 26, 2014 04:03 PM (9GG/0) 221
I am thankful I had no plans to go into NYC on New Year's Eve and I pray for the safety of the people who will be there. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2014 04:01 PM (Dj3AB) In the current hyper-charged environment, it may not be pretty. I'll be surprised if something bad doesn't happen. Posted by: Havedash at December 26, 2014 04:04 PM (G1XMn) 222
I'm thankful that I have two good life friends. Not related. One a brother and one a sister. Again, not related. But, I'm closer to them than I am my own brother and sister.
And my firearms. They keep us safe and the stupidity down. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 26, 2014 04:05 PM (MMWhx) 223
It's a fine line. Cross it and ruin a life or lives.
Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at December 26, 2014 04:01 PM (zxQ4h) I think of it as a balance beam. To far either way and you'll fall off. You don't want to beat your children, or even really be too strict (kids should get to be kids). But at the same time, you can't be too lenient. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 04:05 PM (kff5f) 224
Could Glenn Beck do his show in it? Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 04:03 PM (z9qsk) I believe he could. 'Nuff room for him, Pat & Stu Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 26, 2014 04:05 PM (l1zOH) 225
I am thankful for my parents, my sister, my wife, my kids, my friends.
I am thankful for my country. When I am tempted to think it's all going to hell in a handbasket, I remember people who gave up a lot more than I have to protect it. Finally, this day after Christmas, I am thankful that so many Christians in this country don't even care that I'm not Christian: They want me to have a Merry Christmas anyway. I will never understand how to be offended or feel "excluded" by that. Posted by: JPS at December 26, 2014 04:06 PM (goNu/) Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 04:07 PM (xgvvD) 227
Since we are still on the thankful thread, I'm most thankful for my wife of soon to be eleven years. We married late in life and I have been blessed with the most loving woman I have ever known. She is smart, funny, beautiful and a gingy. Her late husband had suppressed her sense of humor for years, and me being a goof ball encouraged her silly side. She took my lead and is now a real jokester and I'm amazed by some of the stuff that she comes up with. We laugh a lot. Even after as long (in some terms) as we've been together, we are very affectionate and not just in private. My only regret is that we didn't meet years ago so that we could have had children, but that's ok. I'm the happiest that I've ever been in my life, and my wife says the same. God has been very, very good to us.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 04:08 PM (vVSOO) 228
If I had to name one thing I'm thankful for, it's modern medicine, because I wouldn't have survived my first day without it. (That's part of the reason I get very up in arms whenever someone talks about third world health care like it's some kind of godsend.)
If I could name a second thing, it would be that I'm so happy to have a wonderful, quirky family who at least try to understand me. (Some of them come pretty close, but I bet I could surprise every one of them if I suddenly lost my brain-mouth filter.) Anyway, I hope everyone had a good Christmas. Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at December 26, 2014 04:08 PM (ThxKk) 229
Could we get Geraldo to open it?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2014 04:07 PM (xgvvD) ----------------------------------------- They'd have to fill it full of dirt first. Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 04:09 PM (z9qsk) Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 26, 2014 04:09 PM (dFi94) 231
I'm thankful for the endless supply of fresh meat.
Posted by: The Barrel at December 26, 2014 04:09 PM (1CroS) 232
Oh, yes, I am thankful for my friends-some of whom have put up with me for 45 years and some who have only put up with me for a couple of years.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2014 04:09 PM (Dj3AB) 233
>>>>It's a fine line. Cross it and ruin a life or lives.
80s/90s a lot of people were all "It stops with me" I do think that that was a good development for Xers who came out of all that and saw a lot of wreckage but there wasn't a lot about what to do after. Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at December 26, 2014 04:10 PM (3ZtZW) 234
I'm thankful that my negligent and narcissistic parents live so far away
that I don't have to see them much and pretend that I'm grateful. Sorry, but that's the truth, in my case. It hurts to read this. Papa Basura has been gone a long time, and the horde can attest to the stories I've made up about him with their input. But at the core of those stories was an angry and occasionally violent man. Mama Basura has been gone a little over two years. She wasn't narcissistic, but was neglectful or at least thoughtless. And yet, I still miss them both. Zombie, I have no knowledge of you, your parents or their relationship with you. So I'll refrain from saying anything more than love them in spite of themselves. If it has to be from afar, well, shit happens. Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 26, 2014 04:10 PM (UVfht) 235
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214 Deutsche Bank is open to offers for its London-based gold vault following the closure of its physical precious metals business, three sources familiar with the matter said on Wednesday. ... it can only hold 1,500 tonnes of gold. Posted by: Gordon Gecko at December 26, 2014 04:00 PM (e8kgV -------- They better keep an eye on William DeVaney! He stole all the gold out of my safe! Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 04:10 PM (vVSOO) 236
215 My wife grew up in a 'tough love' household. She recounted to me, years later, how her own Mother told her Father, "You're not hitting them hard enough" while her Father beat her and her brother. Finally tally? One sociopath brother who has killed once, stabbed some guy 13 times who kinda survived for a while before dying, many decades of drug and alcohol abuse, etc. Another brother alcohol abusing misfit with multiple dui offenses, early grave with liver cancer. Sister borderline personality, can look you in the face and lie. Wasted 1/3rd of her life. Another brother drug and alcohol abuser, ate a bullet after his wife (with infant child) told him to clean up or she was leaving.
It's a fine line. Cross it and ruin a life or lives. Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request My tale of woe is not nearly as bad as what many other folks experienced. That's why I never whine or complain o classify myself as a victim, because so many other people had such worse childhoods. In my case, my parents never ever actively hurt me -- but then again, they didn't actively feed, clothe or care for me either. I was basically in my own -- really, completely on my own -- from the age of seven onwards. The only thing my mother did for me was allow me to sleep in her house, but even that she did so with resentment and reluctance, and occasionally kicked me out (not because she thought I had done anything wrong -- she just wanted to be alone with her man-friends), and sometimes tried to charge me "rent", which I obviously could not pay. She never gave me a cent, either for food or for any other purpose. I had to scrounge to get money. As for dad -- he was off with a new family, and mostly forgot about us. So, it was not active "abuse" -- it was more like constant negligence. The upside, which I appreciated at the time and still do in retrospect, is that I had close to total freedom, and could do whatever I wanted whenever I wanted, with no parental oversight. I was only by the grace of the gods that I was born highly moral and highly introspective, and as result never did anything stupid or dangerous - I used my freedom to better myself and learn about the world, safely. Turned out well! So, all in all, despite what some people might call a hair-raising childhood, I don't think o myself as a victim of abuse, and have no resentments or psychological after-effects as an adult. Posted by: zombie at December 26, 2014 04:11 PM (K4YiS) 237
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I actually don't think it's that fine a line. There's a pretty wide spectrum between "no consequences/not enough consequence" and "overly harsh/inappropriate consequences" and the overly harsh consequences don't have to be physical to be damaging. Honestly, in my experience, the parents who did go overboard with punishment generally did so because of a whole host of other dysfunctions: poor impulse control, inconsistency (trying to make up for ignoring the first forty infractions by really beating the fuck out of their kid for that forty-first one, which is just not how kids work) just plain mental illness, etc. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 26, 2014 04:11 PM (wBFBl) 238
131 Do NOT start passing out numbers...
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 26, 2014 04:12 PM (wOqu6) 239
Thanks Grammie! She is such a wonderful woman!
Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2014 04:13 PM (vVSOO) 240
It's "Monster Ark" on SciFi now.
Posted by: Soona at December 26, 2014 04:15 PM (z9qsk) 241
Hey. On a completely unrelated note...
Does anyone know where I can (legally) get my hands on the first 5 episodes of this season of Agents of Shield? They don't seem to be on the ABC website. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 04:15 PM (kff5f) 242
g'afternoon, 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 26, 2014 04:16 PM (KCxzN) 243
Wow, zombie. Amazing story.
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 04:16 PM (/Ho8c) 244
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I've read that neglect is actually more damaging than extreme abuse, in many cases. Maybe because it's easier for adults to feel okay about moving on from a person who did things that anyone would agree are horrible, things that leave physical scars. A story of neglect gets a lot of people wondering if you just remember your childhood wrong or feel entitled to a "Disney" childhood, which leads to self-doubt. It's pretty terrible, I'm glad you have moved past it. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at December 26, 2014 04:17 PM (wBFBl) Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at December 26, 2014 04:17 PM (3ZtZW) 246
So, all in all, despite what some people might call a hair-raising childhood, I don't think o myself as a victim of abuse, and have no resentments or psychological after-effects as an adult.
Posted by: zombie at December 26, 2014 04:11 PM (K4YiS) Just goes to show that a person does not have to be a product of their environment. Good for you. My respects to you. Posted by: Havedash at December 26, 2014 04:18 PM (G1XMn) 247
Zombie, I have no knowledge of you, your parents or their relationship with you. So I'll refrain from saying anything more than love them in spite of themselves. If it has to be from afar, well, shit happens.
Posted by: Blanco Basura I do my best. I can summon some form of "love" as long as they don't press the issue -- as long as they don[t try to claim retroactively that they were normal parents. As long as they just present themselves as old people, in their final years, I can accept them as that. But when, as happens sometimes, they try to rewrite the past and claim to have been normal middle-class caring parents, that's when I tune out and the flicker of love becomes teeth-grinding tolerance-at-best. I've actually had to say to my elderly mother, "Don't press this topic. Just drop it." She gets confused as to why, but thankfully she usually does drop it. Posted by: zombie at December 26, 2014 04:19 PM (K4YiS) 248
I'm also thanksfilled for alcohol, dear sweet sweet life-giving alcohol, & I'm also grateful for all those wonderful old hits penned by Phil Collins.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at December 26, 2014 04:19 PM (MbqmP) 249
someone watches Agents of Shield?
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at December 26, 2014 04:17 PM (3ZtZW) Yes. I do. So there. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 04:21 PM (kff5f) 250
zombie@236,
I'm so impressed with you, zombie. You are one of the strongest, most independent-minded people in the virtual world I've read. It's inspiring to read how you seem to have thrived in spite of a pretty tough environment. You I will let stay on my lawn. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 26, 2014 04:22 PM (1CroS) 251
I've actually had to say to my elderly mother, "Don't press this topic. Just drop it." She gets confused as to why, but thankfully she usually does drop it.
She did nothing wrong. As you said, she is a narcissist. I may have a bit of experience in this area. Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2014 04:22 PM (Ua6T/) 252
She did nothing wrong. As you said, she is a narcissist. I may have a bit of experience in this area.
Posted by: fluffy at December 26, 2014 04:22 PM (Ua6T/) For me also. Posted by: Baraka O. at December 26, 2014 04:24 PM (z9qsk) 253
Bless you, zombie.
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 26, 2014 04:26 PM (/Ho8c) 254
Nood.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 26, 2014 04:27 PM (kff5f) 255
zombie, thanks for sharing.
we could have a "airing of childhood grievances" thread, but I'm afraid we'd break the inter-web net-tubes... Posted by: AltonJackson at December 26, 2014 04:29 PM (KCxzN) 256
zombie: (if female) warm hug with slight (and brief) genital contact
zombie: (if male) over the shoulder hug with six inch genital separation The survivors are sometimes the strongest. My wife had hundreds attend the church at her (mine too, but those folks were there for her) wedding. Someday there could be thousands at her funeral. She touches lives, every day. But she was the lone survivor of five children. I don't care for those odds. Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at December 26, 2014 04:32 PM (zxQ4h) 257
I do my best. I can summon some form of "love" as long as they don't
press the issue -- as long as they don[t try to claim retroactively that they were normal parents. As usual, you're way ahead of me. Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 26, 2014 04:38 PM (UVfht) 258
206 I'm thankful that my negligent and narcissistic parents live so far away that I don't have to see them much and pretend that I'm grateful. Sorry, but that's the truth, in my case.
Posted by: zombie at December 26, 2014 03:54 PM (K4YiS) Sorry for that bad hand you got dealt. Posted by: m at December 26, 2014 04:56 PM (G891H) 259
I'm thankful that my negligent and narcissistic parents live so far away
that I don't have to see them much and pretend that I'm grateful. Sorry, but that's the truth, in my case. Posted by: zombie at December 26, 2014 03:54 PM --- You know what? That's ok. I do not have a Rockwellian family either. I'm old enough now to be better about setting aside the negatives and focusing on the positives, but for most of my adult life my husband and I had one rule: OUR relationship came first. There were times I did not do the things that the Good Daughter is supposed to do with respect to my family, but I think both husband and self have been good people, who lived our lives using the values we were given by our parents. And building a solid three-decade marriage is a testament to my parents' own example, frankly. Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2014 05:08 PM (9BRsg) 260
I got a chessboard with no pieces. Wait. Sorry. A cheeseboard, and I get to cut my own pieces.
Posted by: dirks strewn at December 26, 2014 05:10 PM (TIgJq) 261
The more I know about other people's families, the more grateful I am for my own. I got a good one.
Posted by: April at December 26, 2014 05:13 PM (FjIA5) Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 26, 2014 05:14 PM (VvOZ5) 263
31 " the friends who beat you so you don't get sodomized in prison later."
Well, I guess there is that. No sodomy=good. Posted by: Ricardo Kill Not so fast. Prison sounds pretty boring otherwise. Not a lot of other stuff to do there. Posted by: Barky McSaladtosser at December 26, 2014 05:15 PM (TIgJq) 264
My face is leaking water. I am so sorry for all of the Morons and ettes that have had lousy childhoods, you are in my prayers. You have grown into people I think are swell.
Posted by: Ms. M at December 26, 2014 06:10 PM (MBEYv) 265
Now for the Special Snowflake Shitstain Erica Garner: You may have the right to tell the address of cop who you blame for your Father's death. I don't think so, but that's neither here nor there. You don't however have the right to give out the name of his relatives. Hope they have good attorneys and sue the hell out of you and only you not you momma and not your sister. Here's to seeing you suffer for you stupid move, b*tch.
Posted by: Ms. M at December 26, 2014 06:38 PM (MBEYv) 266
I'm thankful that I FINALLY got my Texas novel Pilot Point published.
This very single guy is also very thankful that God has practically made me a part of two nearby families. Posted by: WannabeAnglican at December 26, 2014 08:03 PM (CW6pW) 267
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