Tuesday Morning News Dump

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1 not first

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2014 08:50 AM (2Ayux)

2 the corgi whistle has been sounded

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2014 08:50 AM (2Ayux)

3 "What causes American Murders?"

Ummmm.......murderers?

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 08:51 AM (CzJOg)

4 Here, amidst all the awful, I thought the Horde would like this.


http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/museum-of-astronomy-and-related-sciences

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 08:51 AM (mf5HN)

5 Good morning, fappers! Happy Christmas Eve Eve!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 08:52 AM (2Ojst)

6
What Causes American Murders


Racism, Patriarchy, and WalMart

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 08:53 AM (MMC8r)

7 Oh and apparently Sen. Paul is going to be airing Festivus grievances on twitter.

*scurries off to make All The Popcorn*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 08:53 AM (mf5HN)

8 3
"What causes American Murders?"

Minorities?

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 08:53 AM (XzRw1)

9 They'll get my guns when they pry them from the cold second from the top drawer of my dresser and take them to school.

Posted by: Center Right Hard Liner at December 23, 2014 08:54 AM (JdEZJ)

10 Santa is changing out a dead battery in his sleigh.



Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 08:55 AM (MQEz6)

11
Michael Grimm, a Republican who has represented New Yorkers in Congress since 2011, plans to enter a guilty plea Tuesday in federal court, admitting that he helped prepare a fraudulent tax return for a restaurant he partially owned.

His fate will be up to Federal Judge Pamela Chen, however, when she hears the terms of a plea agreement. Grimm was originally charged with 20 separate federal crimes and has been serving his constituents while under the terms of a $400,000 bond granted in the spring.

By pleading guilty to a single tax charge, he will avoid a trial that was scheduled to convene in January. Jurors would heave heard details of Grimm's alleged scheme to hide more than $1 million of his restaurant's sales and wages in order to dodge taxes between 2008 and 2010. He was also accused of hiring illegal immigrants to work for him.

Daily Mail



This would be the douche that some on the Right were up twinking because he thug-life'd a reporter. Corrupt lout. No word from the GOP on whether they intend to do anything about him after he pleads out.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (kdS6q)

12 Guns taken to school?!?

The kid is going to have to learn scuba diving first. Damn canoe.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bucking the wind at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (LFK6k)

13 Hector is here TOO?

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (gfB4n)

14 Hey Andrew, I drank your milkshake!

Posted by: Pennsylvania at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (Ua6T/)

15 I've said good morning at end of ONT but I'll say it again.

Good Morning.

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 08:57 AM (sj3Ax)

16 6
What Causes American Murders

Racism, Patriarchy, and WalMart
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 08:53 AM (MMC8r)

Rush Limbaugh, burnt lasagna, and the vast right-wing conspiracy.

Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 08:57 AM (MQEz6)

17 To the Culture wars article:

None of us really want to be involved in the culture wars, we mostly want to be left alone.

the left will have none of that.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 08:57 AM (HDwDg)

18 'What Causes American Murders'


No sauce with my nuggets.

Posted by: Center Right Hard Liner at December 23, 2014 08:58 AM (JdEZJ)

19 Hi Carol!

Posted by: fluffy at December 23, 2014 08:59 AM (Ua6T/)

20
And:

Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.

Daily Mail




Ok, time for a mercy killing. At least he'll be at peace.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 09:00 AM (kdS6q)

21 "What causes American Murders?"

Al Sharpton, Barack Obama, Eric Holder were all standing in front of microphones before the NY Police officer double murder. So it must be the microphones, right? Or maybe it's some other commonality... can't quite place it.

Posted by: Tales of a Junktown Jerky Vendor at December 23, 2014 09:01 AM (HKvMD)

22 "De Blasio Goes After the Media"

He looked like a guilty school boy trying to talk the principal out of punishing him. He looked cornered, clueless, and hapless.

Buffoon.

Posted by: http://tinyurl.com/1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:01 AM (CzJOg)

23 Dr. Sowell,

The race card may have a "steep price" in terms of violence and societal divisiveness but, on the bright side, it keeps the Af-Ams voting monolithically Democrat at rates that would make Kim Jon-un blush if he were to get them in North Korea.

Omelettes. Eggs.

Posted by: Ed at December 23, 2014 09:02 AM (Xv7f/)

24 20
And:

Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.

Daily Mail




Ok, time for a mercy killing. At least he'll be at peace.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 09:00 AM (kdS6q)

Put him on Gilligan's Island and conk him with a coconut.

He'll snap right out of it.

Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:02 AM (MQEz6)

25 Hector was on last thread.

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:02 AM (sj3Ax)

26 >>>No sauce with my nuggets.

Imma cut a b*tch

Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:03 AM (3ZtZW)

27 I wish I were on Gilligan's Island right now.

Warm, sandy beach and Ginger in a coconut cream pie bikini.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:04 AM (zF6Iw)

28 The majority of Americans support relations with Cuba. What do you dead end hardliners have to say about that?

http://tinyurl.com/ksvpnw7

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:04 AM (cnb+O)

29 Oil at 20/bbl?

What could go wrong?

Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:05 AM (3ZtZW)

30 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:05 AM (kff5f)

31 So, apparently, is the Broncos receiving corps.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:05 AM (kff5f)

32
The Federalist is full of shit heads.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:06 AM (TX2fN)

33 OPEC Leader Vows To Not Cut Oil Production Even If Oil Drops To $20

Oh. Good.

We can roast S'mores over the conflagration. Won't that be fun?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:06 AM (kff5f)

34 The only real passion de Blasio has shown was when he was defending the protestors from the press. A thing he would never do for the police

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 09:06 AM (zOTsN)

35 Confessions Of A Reluctant Culture Warrior

Strong article. Summary: the Left will not allow you to sit out the culture wars.

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2014 09:06 AM (FcR7P)

36 27 I wish I were on Gilligan's Island right now


I've been saying that for over 40 years MPPP. Wouldn't it be lovely?

Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (JdEZJ)

37 Can we all commit to something in 2015, and maybe start a mainstream trend along the way? Can we stop referring to Al Sharpton and Jessah Jackson as Reverends? These two are no more deserving of that title than a street bum.

Definition: Worthy of reverence; entitled to respect mingled with fear and affection.

It seems all either of them want from the title is the "fear" aspect.

Posted by: Havedash at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (G1XMn)

38 Hector likes his nuggets....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (pb82p)

39 A Year Later, The Exchanges Still Stink

The Exchanges will always stink. Like a public swimming pool run by the IRS using NAMBLA members for its janitorial staff.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (kff5f)

40 >>>The Federalist is full of shit heads.

In another coupla years the cobs will find another site to post from. No worries

Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (3ZtZW)

41 Posted by: Tales of a Junktown Jerky Vendor at December 23, 2014 09:01 AM (HKvMD)

Do I get +1 to barter for reading your posts?

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (/Mxso)

42 @35
The culture wars are used by the left to make the right look bad. The hardliners on the right have been getting their asses handed to them in the culture wars the last 20 years.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (cnb+O)

43 28
The majority of Americans support relations with Cuba. What do you dead end hardliners have to say about that?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:04 AM (cnb+O)

I'm willing to do my part: http://tinyurl.com/oekbo45


Posted by: http://tinyurl.com/1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (CzJOg)

44 Watched some of End Of Watch for the first time last night. Actually just the beginning and the end. Seemed like it plays into today's headlines. How was the middle of the movie?

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (3jmxp)

45

Democrats like DeBlasio whining about the media formenting divisiveness is too hypocritically ironic for words. (Or ironically hypocritical, whatever.)

Ya dance with the one whut brung ya.

Posted by: Mitt, a murderer on the loose at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (Xv7f/)

46 "Like a public swimming pool run by the IRS using NAMBLA members for its janitorial staff."




You got an address?

Posted by: H. Reid at December 23, 2014 09:09 AM (pb82p)

47 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:06 AM (kff5f

Eh, the chaos will at least have low gas prices.

Frankly I don't know who to support in this mess, so I'm going to support my pocket book, which says "yay! Low oil!"

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:09 AM (HDwDg)

48 The majority of Americans support relations with Cuba. What do you dead end hardliners have to say about that?

The majority of "Americans" supported putting an ambulatory trash puddle in the White House, too, you gibbering, addle-minded homunculus. If majority ruled, you'd long since have been banned from the internet, only to befoul certain bestiality webpages with your snuffling, sunken-chested puffing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:09 AM (zF6Iw)

49 37 Can we all commit to something in 2015, and maybe start a mainstream trend along the way? Can we stop referring to Al Sharpton and Jessah Jackson as Reverends? These two are no more deserving of that title than a street bum.

Definition: Worthy of reverence; entitled to respect mingled with fear and affection.

It seems all either of them want from the title is the "fear" aspect.

Posted by: Havedash at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (G1XMn)

As long as those two clownfuckers get on TV and are treated with respect this country has no hope.

Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (MQEz6)

50 I need to go to grocery store. I'm making meatballs for Christmas. I think I'll go today instead of tomorrow.

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (sj3Ax)

51 43 28
The majority of Americans support relations with Ginger or Mary Ann.



Fixed that for ya

Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (JdEZJ)

52 40
>>>The Federalist Federalist and Hot Air are full of shit heads.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (XzRw1)

53 Hector likes eating his nuggets....

----

FIFY

Posted by: @JohnTant at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (PFy0L)

54 The majority of Americans support relations with Cuba. What do you dead end hardliners have to say about that?

Do you really want 'the majority of Americans' to matter? No, that would be a disaster to your cause.

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (FcR7P)

55 you gibbering, addle-minded homunculus

The quality snark that keeps me coming back to the hive of scum and villainy.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:11 AM (rwI+c)

56

Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.


Well, at least we know what causes McConaughey's Syndrome.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:12 AM (MMC8r)

57 Ever notice the trolls very rarely switch threads.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:12 AM (Zmw74)

58 Is there some national embargo on mentioning that the NYC cop killer, while crazy, was a MUSLIM???



The only outlet that has mentioned this is Insty.




So, I guess being a Muslim, had nothing to do with him killing the cops. It was work place violence or something.



Are there ANY reporters in the country?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (0FSuD)

59 @48
Yet once again, the hardline right is isolated on an issue. If the majority of people oppose your position, what will your bitching accomplish?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (cnb+O)

60 56

Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.

Well, at least we know what causes McConaughey's Syndrome.
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:12 AM (MMC8r)

Well, that's one proven cause.

Playing the drums while naked is also suspected.

Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (MQEz6)

61 Points at 2014 scoreboard.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (rwI+c)

62 So, I guess being a Muslim, had nothing to do with him killing the cops. It was work place violence or something.



Are there ANY reporters in the country?


Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (0FSuD)


I actually don't think it has much to do with this crime. He did it because he was egged on by the "protesters", not for Allah.

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (/Mxso)

63 59
@48

Yet once again, the hardline right is isolated on an issue. If the
majority of people oppose your position, what will your bitching
accomplish? Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (cnb+O)

Don't be so hasty there, junior. It got Obamacare passed didn't it?

Posted by: http://tinyurl.com/1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (CzJOg)

64 @54
Why do you hardliners like being societal outcasts? How will relations with Cuba, effect you?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (cnb+O)

65 Average Joe sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (rwI+c)

66 Strong article. Summary: the Left will not allow you to sit out the culture wars.

True. I do have problems with the article, but that is the main take away and it's a good one.

I just wish that Freedom Loving atheists would stop for a minute and realize that there *is* no morality outside "traditional religious morality" (by which they normally mean: Judeo-Christian, but I'll be nice and throw in Buddhism and a few others as well).

Unless there is a God (or gods) who approve of one set of behaviors and disapprove of another, there is no reason to be "moral" except for some fuzzy commitment to "getting along with people" or "doing what's best for everyone." But since those are, themselves, moral behaviors and not moral philosophy, that's really not more than saying "People should be moral."

That's great, and all, but since there's no specific philosophy attached to it, what, then is "moral?"

Moral behavior is moral precisely because it is grounded in a philosophy which includes a belief in something not just greater than "ourselves" but greater than mankind taken together, and even greater than all of nature. Only with such a "something" that hates one set of behaviors and loves another does the word "moral" make any sense.

...
...
...
And now I'll stop preaching.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (kff5f)

67 Christmas at the hector house must be a real treat.

Hector: "The majority of unbathed 400lbers in this house support pie. Why won't you cook me a pie, you evil hardliner?!"

Oven: ...

Hector: "Racist!"

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (MbqmP)

68 The majority of Americans also oppose amnesty.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (MMC8r)

69 And Yahoo doing their part for instigate more raciz violence. Yahoo headline. White ex cop shoots and kills a mentally ill black man. Prosecutors do not charge the white ex cop with murder.

Posted by: Havedash at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (G1XMn)

70 @63
The hardline right does have the power, the left does. The comparison is not apt here.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (cnb+O)

71 57 Ever notice the trolls very rarely switch threads.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:12 AM (Zmw74)

Dammit! You jinxed us.

Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (fWAjv)

72 .....If majority ruled, you'd long since have been banned from the internet, only to befoul certain bestiality webpages with your snuffling, sunken-chested puffing.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


Note to self...don't piss off MP4.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bucking the wind at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (LFK6k)

73 How was the middle of the movie?
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (3jmxp)

I wasn't expecting much from the movie, but I liked it. The middle does a good job of showing how the two cops are really close buddies, family stuff, etc.

Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (659DL)

74 Is there some national embargo on mentioning that the NYC cop killer, while crazy, was a MUSLIM???



The only outlet that has mentioned this is Insty.




So, I guess being a Muslim, had nothing to do with him killing the cops. It was work place violence or something.



Are there ANY reporters in the country?
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (0FSuD)


From what I can gather he and his family are phony baloney NOI muslims.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (Zmw74)

75 Nevergiveup,
This one has.

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (sj3Ax)

76 In her village, Hector's wife is known as El Guapo.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (MMC8r)

77 So apparently Wealth of Nation's hasn't been translated into Garsi. "When supply exceeds demand, prices go down." What's so hard to grasp about this?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (5buP8)

78 Little bastid what confiscated Mom's gun: "Mom!"

LBWCMG: "Can you make me a peanut butter sandwich for lunch? The school lunch isn't very filling."

Mom, fingering ankle bracelet: "Sorry, Son."

Mom: "The school lunch is nutritionally complete."

** Looks LBWCMG in the eye **

Mom: "The school knows best."

Posted by: fluffy at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (Ua6T/)

79 My preferred cultural icon? Ginger over Mary Ann, though I'd happily accept either. Thanks for asking.

Posted by: MTF at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (LISuA)

80 @68
The majority oppose amnesty, but support legalization of illegals after certain conditions are met. Even a majority of Republicans support this. A majority also oppose the racist arguments of the hardline right on immigration.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (cnb+O)

81 And:

Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.

Daily Mail




Ok, time for a mercy killing. At least he'll be at peace.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 09:00 AM (kdS6q)



This reminds me of the central flaw of The Vow. As many women have noted, if I wake up after an accident and Channing Tatum is there looking terribly concerned and says "Hi. I'm your husband"? I'm just going with that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (mf5HN)

82 Ooooh, Ginger over Mary Ann.......

Bunk.

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (CzJOg)

83 49.37.

Imagine the reaction of liberals and their media if a Republican President were to ever give the right wing equivalent of Sharpton the same degree of access and respect the Democrats give him.

I can't even think who the right wing equivalent of Sharpton might be. Cliven Bundy?

Video: http://tinyurl.com/nrjv69d

Posted by: Roscoe at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (Xv7f/)

84 New relations with Cuba will help end Communism there, and might even help get rid of it here.

If not, we get to watch it all burn while smoking Cuban cigars, drinking Cuban rum, and banging Cuban hotties.

Totally win-win.

Imagine the trolls exploding when when they see the first Cuban WalMart.

Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (MQEz6)

85 Why are the morning threads always so full of troll shit?

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (MYCIw)

86 Free WiFi at McDonalds.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (rwI+c)

87 @99

The hardline right does, support for comma splice. My medications, are kicking in?

Posted by: Time four pease at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (MbqmP)

88 Yes. +1 to Barter. But you also get +1 to Unarmed Combat and a +1 to Intelligence for being at AoSHQ.

BTW, on Amazon, right now you can buy 100 'vintage' bottle caps for just 14 pre-Nuclear Holocaust dollars. What a bargain!

Posted by: Tales of a Junktown Jerky Vendor at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (HKvMD)

89

If you told me that the Child-Brained Idiot who posted the other day that rhetoric does not cause violence also wrote that garbage piece on Cuba at the Federalist, I'd believe you.

The writing style and intellectual void in the text is remarkably similar to young master Malor's.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (TX2fN)

90

If you told me that the Child-Brained Idiot who posted the other day that rhetoric does not cause violence also wrote that garbage piece on Cuba at the Federalist, I'd believe you.

The writing style and intellectual void in the text is remarkably similar to young master Malor's.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (TX2fN)

91 Dammit! You jinxed us.
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (fWAjv)

yeah sorry, my bad

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (Zmw74)

92 So the mayor of NYC turned on the cops, turned on the media, - exactly who does he represent, and what support does he still have left? The dude is toast.

Posted by: Fritz at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (dVmLD)

93 SCOTUS PPACA argument on Command Day

March 4th = March Forth

Posted by: tmitsss at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (1nj96)

94 So, I guess being a Muslim, had nothing to do with him killing the cops. It was work place violence or something.

Are there ANY reporters in the country?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (0FSuD)


All the recent attacks by muslims have been categorized as 'mentally ill.'

Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (fWAjv)

95 Is there some national embargo on mentioning that the NYC cop killer, while crazy, was a MUSLIM???

1) What evidence is there that he was "crazy?"
B) Since I'm pretty sure he wasn't yelling "Allah snackbar!" while killing the cops, I think (in this particular case) his Mohommedism is secondary (though worth mention, at least)
III) Did I mention that his mom disputes the "crazy" allegation? She says (sorry, no link, heard it on the news this morning) that he was never diagnosed with any mental illness.
iv) Which then suggests "evil" and not "crazy" is the explanation.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (kff5f)

96 Hey, maybe we should make our own PSA and maybe instruct kids to bring in mom and dad's pot stash?

*OK, I know it's not just progressives who smoke, so what's a better idea?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (ABcz/)

97 All the recent attacks by muslims have been categorized as 'mentally ill.'

In fairness ...

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (rwI+c)

98 "Why are the morning threads always so full of troll shit?"


Meds haven't had time to kick in yet.

Posted by: H. Reid at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (pb82p)

99 @84
Its the hardline right who oppose walmart in Cuba.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (cnb+O)

100 85
Why are the morning threads always so full of troll shit?

Their mom wakes them up so she can vacuum and fumigate the basement

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (CzJOg)

101 I opened a new brothel. The goats have all tested clean by a certified veterinarian. Prices for pleasure start at $28. My wife is the blonde at the front of the chorus line.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (LFK6k)

102 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (kff5f)

Sorry, don't agree.

Humans invented morals and the idea that they must be founded on something beyond us.

Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (MQEz6)

103 Why are the morning threads always so full of troll shit?

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (MYCIw)


Because we continue to engage them.

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (/Mxso)

104 Get away, Harry!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (pb82p)

105 80 @68
The majority oppose amnesty, but support legalization of illegals after certain conditions are met. Even a majority of Republicans support this. A majority also oppose the racist arguments of the hardline right on immigration.


---

I call crap on that. What question are they being asked?

Ask them this: "Do you agree that people who break the law in entering the U.S. should have their crimes excused?

Even 80 percent of the Dem base would answer "no" to that.

Posted by: Roscoe at December 23, 2014 09:21 AM (Xv7f/)

106 I Imagine This Person Won't Be Keeping Their Job For Very Long



Two 9-1-1 dispatchers. Reportedly said, "They deserved it". Should give the cops warm fuzzies knowing that they have their backs.

You know, the ones taking the original call and relaying ALL of the pertinent info. Like a possible ambush.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 09:21 AM (k3WXB)

107 Mom! Leave me alone! I'm doing important stuff on the Internet!

Posted by: Time for Hot Pockets at December 23, 2014 09:22 AM (roESk)

108 The International Man of Cocksuckery brings up an interesting point; which American companies would do business in Cuber? I really wouldn't expect Walmart to do so but some others might.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:22 AM (rwI+c)

109 Cuba has many goats. I call it paradise.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:22 AM (LFK6k)

110 speaking of culture wars, Germans are assembling en masse to sing Christmas carols and protest the Islamicization of Europe

response of the German Left? the freedom-loving carolers are "Nazi's in pin-stripes"

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:22 AM (odDZy)

111 "Two 9-1-1 dispatchers. Reportedly said, "They deserved it". Should give
the cops warm fuzzies knowing that they have their backs.
"



I'm going to make a wild guess here......

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:23 AM (pb82p)

112
OPEC Leader Vows To Not Cut Oil Production Even If Oil Drops To $20


So Fuck You, Vlad.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:23 AM (MMC8r)

113 Yes. +1 to Barter. But you also get +1 to Unarmed Combat and a +1 to Intelligence for being at AoSHQ.

Posted by: Tales of a Junktown Jerky Vendor at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (HKvMD)

We also get the "Gun Nut" perk.



Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (/Mxso)

114 Cuba is the Leftist hipster's political wet dream: to enjoy the aesthetics of Communism while suffering none of its costs

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (odDZy)

115 End of Watch was a really good movie. We both enjoyed it. Well acted. Prescient sort of.

Posted by: keena at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (RiTnx)

116
Amazon would do business in Cuba, for starters.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (TX2fN)

117
Amazon would do business in Cuba, for starters.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (TX2fN)

118
Amazon would do business in Cuba, for starters.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (TX2fN)

119 Cuban goats are what mexican goat boys dream about.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (LFK6k)

120 A majority of Americans can't identify where Cuba is on a map so their uneducated opinion on Cuba means nothing to me.

What aggravates me the most is this meme that our embargo has held Cuba back when in fact that they have open relationship with Europe, China, South America , Mexico, Russia and Canada.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (3jmxp)

121 They won't go in to Cuba unless they believe the promise that they can keep their profits. Some European firms have hotels there. But that's it for foreign investment. Others have seen their companies seized and ran into the dirt


I see travel but not business. Like with vietnam.

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (zOTsN)

122 Triple-fire....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:25 AM (pb82p)

123 Wow. That story about the 9/11 dispatchers is absolutely chilling. NYC is falling to pieces right before our eyes. If I'm a cop there, fuck it, I'm sick all month.

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:25 AM (MYCIw)

124 "Two 9-1-1 dispatchers. Reportedly said, "They deserved it".

If true, I don't understand how they were allowed to leave the room under their own power.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:25 AM (zF6Iw)

125 it's just an opportunity for Obama to stick his thumb into the US eye once again

show "solidarity"

shore up the base

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:25 AM (odDZy)

126 Garsi=Farsi. F'ng iPad.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (5buP8)

127 Cuban WalMart People.

Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (MQEz6)

128
Serious stuff from Down Here...

40 years ago on Christmas Eve, Cyclone Tracy hit Darwin in the Northern Territory - 66 people died

Most of the place was evacuated, and people were sent to all different places, including Singapore

Thank you to the US Air Force, who came to help out...

http://goo.gl/N8sIz7

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (b/1aA)

129 108 The International Man of Cocksuckery brings up an interesting point; which American companies would do business in Cuber?

---

I'm sure our associates in Tourism and Leisure activities could be enticed.

Posted by: Hyman Roth at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (Xv7f/)

130 The cop-killer that worked for a Muslim Brotherhood front group? That one? Yeah, no tie-in to the religion of peace there.

Posted by: akula51 at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (R5qgD)

131 Humans invented morals and the idea that they must be founded on something beyond us.

Which then immediately undermines the very idea of morals. Because moral behavior is not defined as "behavior of which the ruling class approves," or calling the Nazis "evil" would be nonsensical. It can't even be "behavior which benefits the majority" because we believe that "the majority" can go hang- I have my Rights.

So how, then, would "moral behavior" be defined? And why would the cave man in the next valley over give a rip about your idea of "morals" when he can kill you, rape your women, and take your stuff?

Either morals ARE and are unchanging, or they are simply suggestions which it does not matter, in the long run, if I obey.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (kff5f)

132 The trolls have been out hot and heavy since the day the two cops in Brooklyn were murdered. Not just here. It's a pattern, I notice, especially since the elections last month.

Somebody is worried.

Posted by: small town girl at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (xkaSw)

133 Hector had to leave. There were some shit blowing flies that he wanted to service.

Posted by: maddogg at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (xWW96)

134 Obama could go on national television and act like a statesman, but that would be opposite his real purpose, which is to divide and conquer

If he could get away with it, he'd put busts of Alinsky and Marx in the Oval Office

I don't wish ill on anyone, but I'll breathe a sigh of relief when this fucker reaches room temp

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (odDZy)

135 Cyclone Tracy hit Darwin

Okay, that's a horrible story, and I'm sorry for the victims and their families.

But that phrase made me smile.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (kff5f)

136 Why are the morning threads always so full of troll shit?

Because this blog is against giving the cops tanks
And their dogs

Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (MaUQj)

137 All the recent attacks by muslims have been categorized as 'mentally ill.'


In fairness ...


I believe that's a feature, not a bug. It's a religion that encourages hate and violence, not introspection and love.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (ABcz/)

138 I actually don't think it has much to do with this crime. He did it because he was egged on by the "protesters", not for Allah.




Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (/Mxso)


And we know this how?
I agree they appear to be wanta be Muslims. Insty's link yesterday said the thug was mugging a pan handler until he found out he was a "Muslim" and they went to a bar and had a beer together.

Muslims don't drink alcohol.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (0FSuD)

139
not to mention open the floodgates for Cuba to export her socialist dregs to the American shores..

there is absolutley no upside for the USA in obama's deal with Cuba, and if anyone tells you different you can tell them I said Fuck You.


Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (TX2fN)

140 @120
You hardliners are isolating yourselves from the America public.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (cnb+O)

141 E-slam has quite a repository of the mentally deranged. It figures.

Posted by: maddogg at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (xWW96)

142 It's a religion that encourages hate and violence, not introspection and love.

You misspelled "death cult."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (kff5f)

143 128. Yo Aussie
I've been to Darwin for a few days
It's like a big city with a small town flair

Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (MaUQj)

144 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (kff5f)

Morals are what we say they are.

We invented them.

We also invented the lie that we did not invent them.

We had to do that in order to make them work.

Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (MQEz6)

145 I'm going to make a wild guess here......




Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:23 AM (pb82p)

I'll take fat Black women for a $1000, Alex.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (0FSuD)

146 @139
How will relations with Cuba, change your life?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (cnb+O)

147 in terms of adherents, Islam is majority nut-case

why? because the Koran validates the nut-cases, and because of that, the nut-cases gleefully get and use the guns

all the sweet little introspective mystic Sufi's stand no chance against Islamic Mafia types

that is why Islam is such a problem

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:31 AM (odDZy)

148 Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (b/1aA)

That's horrible, very high casualties. It must have rolled in out of nowhere.

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:31 AM (/Mxso)

149 So apparently the word of the day today is "hardliners"

So remember kiddies, when you hear the word "hardliners" scream at the top of your lungs.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:31 AM (kff5f)

150 'You hardliners are isolating yourselves from the America public.'

If only!

Oh please don't throw me in the briar patch Mr. Peace.

Posted by: Hardliner center right leftist at December 23, 2014 09:32 AM (JdEZJ)

151 eman

But it clearly doesn't work. Your lies are empty.

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:32 AM (odDZy)

152 Yeah, death cult pretty much nails it.

Re: Morals - Dennis Preager discusses this a lot - probably a video on it somewhere - but he asks a simple question: if your morals are not based on the ten commandments/bible, then what are they based on? What is your source?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (ABcz/)

153 Isolating ourselves from the American public.

You know, like Mary Landrieu.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (659DL)

154 Goodness gracious, am I onna them hardliners????

Posted by: maddogg at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (xWW96)

155 My life, has changed, because, of, the,

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (MYCIw)

156 There are no skankles at my house of Cuban delight. Only one that comes close to that is my wife. Won't stop eating nachos. Someday that bitch will be too fat to fit through the front door.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (LFK6k)

157 146
@139

How will relations with Cuba, change your life?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (cnb+O)

Increased demand will cause the price of hookers to sky rocket.
No more $20 BJ's.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (0FSuD)

158 And we know this how?
I agree they appear to be
wanta be Muslims. Insty's link yesterday said the thug was mugging a pan
handler until he found out he was a "Muslim" and they went to a bar and
had a beer together.

Muslims don't drink alcohol.


Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (0FSuD)


I can't say we know it, only that it doesn't appear to have been a driving factor in the murders. What he posted on tumbler before he committed the crime would probably give us a better idea. From what I understand it was full on anti cop, not jihadist screed.

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (/Mxso)

159 "the America public"?

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (odDZy)

160 Christmas at the hector house must be a real treat.



Hector: "The majority of unbathed 400lbers in this house support pie. Why won't you cook me a pie, you evil hardliner?!"



Oven: ...



Hector: "Racist!"

--

Well done, sir. Well done.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (tsGZY)

161
Cubans are dfferent today. They are thoroughly socialistic. They know no better. And they hate the USA.

obama knows this, that's why he made the deal -- obama doesnt want to spread freedom to Cuba, he wants to infect the USA with anti-American anti-capitalism.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:35 AM (TX2fN)

162 You talking about me??

Posted by: Hardliner Buttslab at December 23, 2014 09:35 AM (JdEZJ)

163 More of my tax money will be used to prop up a communist government. I realize that's a positive for lefty retards .

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:35 AM (3jmxp)

164 if your morals are not based on the ten commandments/bible, then what are they based on?

Isn't that answer what your parents teach you

Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:35 AM (MaUQj)

165 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (kff5f


The "crazy" meme comes from the apparent attempted suicide right before he shot his ex.

Of course I've known a few people who have "attempted" suicide as a method of getting attention with no intent of actually offing themselves. So it is not, by default, crazy.

As for the actual suicide in this case, still not necessarily crazy. He knew he was screwed. He sought to end it "on his own terms."

So merely saying "suicidal=crazy" is not true for how we typically define "crazy"

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (HDwDg)

166 And their dogs

Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (MaUQj)

No dogs!

And you know why.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (Zu3d9)

167 Goodness gracious, am I onna them hardliners????

Coming to AOSHQ and accusing us of being hardliners is like trying to use "funny" in shaming Richard Pryor.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (659DL)

168 I'll post this insight from Bookworm's prison chaplain cousin again because it bears repeating:

"It is not a contradiction to be a Muslim and a murderer, even a mass
murderer. That is one reason why criminals "convert" to Islam in prison.
They don't convert at all; they similarly remain the angry
judgmental vicious beings they always have been. They simply add 'religious' diatribes to their personal invective. Islam does not
inspire a crisis of conscience, just inspirations to outrage."

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (ABcz/)

169 I have relations with Cuba at least twice a week. That's the cute goat with the short horns and large udder.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (LFK6k)

170 Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (MaUQj)

And if you really want a tank, Bannion has an M1A1 in his garage, with a full load of bee-hive rounds.

But he won't share.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (Zu3d9)

171 Morals are what we say they are.

But who is "we?" And why should I care what "you" say about morals?

Morals are not behavior. Behavior can be moral, but morals are ideas- principles. If we "invented them" then they don't actually exist- at least, not to the point you could call them "moral."

Sure, the government could force its collective view of moral behavior on people, but it would have no justification for doing so.

And before you say that you're okay with that, think about what it actually means. Freedom of speech? Made up, because it relies on a MORAL judgement. Therefore government can take it away whenever the majority decides. Freedom of association? Also relies on a moral judgement, so again can be taken away by the government whenever the majority decides.

If morals are made up, then they are invalid- since they would then be self defeating ("everyone" agrees that lying is immoral).

For a case study- look at Islam. Islam is an evil death cult that really does believe in situational (or "made up") morality. That's how the whole world would look if you were correct.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (kff5f)

172 If we learned the hard way that Saddam was keeping the cork in the bottle, just wait until the Castro brothers are gone.

The payback that is going to happen between the Cubanos who stayed and those who left is going to be epic made even worse for being seasoned well with money, racism, rum and machismo.

The Miami Cubanos are going to demand the return of the los abuelos' farms and ocean front property. The Habana Cubanos are going to respond to that ...poorly.

Any doubt which side Comrade Obama is going to support?

Posted by: Hyman Roth at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (Xv7f/)

173 Tsrblke
How is your wife feeling?

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (sj3Ax)

174 @163
How will your tax money be used to prop up Cuba?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (cnb+O)

175 Has trade with China made them not-communist?

I'd say it's just given them the finances to use against us.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (MMC8r)

176 Yes, engagement with communist countries ends communism. Why, I got a raise, all the way up to 4 cents a day for building Hector's blow-up dolls!

Posted by: Chinese Peasant at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (8wPsx)

177 Oh, wow. Putin is looking at putting price controls on bread.
This is not going to turn out well.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (t//F+)

178 Hardliners. I seem to remember a bunch of hardliners fighting a war for independence, founding a nation, and drawing up a Bill of Rights and other documents to specifically enumerate the rights of the individual and limit the power of the government. Damn those hardliners.

Posted by: Tales of a Hardliner Junktown Jerky Vendor at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (HKvMD)

179 My life, has changed, because, of, the,

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM


ex,act,ly,

golf clap

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (2Ayux)

180 I can't say we know it, only that it doesn't
appear to have been a driving factor in the murders. What he posted on
tumbler before he committed the crime would probably give us a better
idea. From what I understand it was full on anti cop, not jihadist
screed.




Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (/Mxso)

I totally agree, BUT his going to a radical mosque is not news?


http://tinyurl.com/mbuamdq

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (0FSuD)

181 http://tinyurl.com/m93hxc7


In fact, there's less hard evidence for any mental illness than there is for 'radicalization', at least to the extent that Brinsley appears to have posted on his Facebook page the Koranic soundbite about 'striking fear into the enemies of Allah'. Nevertheless, the preferred explanation is that Brinsley was mentally ill, just like the guy who beheaded a coworker in Oklahoma was mentally ill, and the Sydney bloke who took those hostages at the coffee shop was mentally ill, and the son of the Canadian Refugee Board honcho who killed a soldier at the Canadian War Memorial was mentally ill. They were also all Muslim. Oh, and the fellow in France who ran down 11 people with his car while shouting 'Allahu Akbar!' only yesterday has already been pronounced mentally ill. By sheer coincidence, he was Muslim, too.

Mark Steyn

Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (fWAjv)

182 Heh heh. Hard liner. Heh heh heh.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (2Ojst)

183 I come from a long line of Hardliners. There was Daddy Hardliner, Momma Hardliner, and little Baby Hardliner.
There was also the Bubba Hardliner side of the family, but we don't like to talk about them much.

Posted by: R W Hardliner at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (JdEZJ)

184 @161
How will diplomatic relations with Cuba change your life?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (cnb+O)

185
OF COURSE obama is gonna propose some sort of "stimulus" package for Cuba

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (TX2fN)

186 "communist government"

isn't it a Leninist dictatorship

this is what Obama's Government is "engaging"

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (odDZy)

187 MPPPP @48: C'mon, open up. Take off the kid gloves. Let the troll know what you really think.

Posted by: mindful webworker at large at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (Gjw1J)

188 166. No dogs!
And you know why.....

Hardliner!!!!!

Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (MaUQj)

189 Average Cuban salaries before The Great USA/Cuba Relations Pact of 2014: $17 a month.

Average Cuban salaries after The Great USA/Cuba Relations Pact of 2014: $17 a month.


Posted by: Lady in Black at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (tsGZY)

190 Boring troll is boring.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (kff5f)

191 @175
China is Fascist, not Communist.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (cnb+O)

192 Hi aussie! Is it Christmas eve on your side of the world?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (ABcz/)

193 Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (sj3Ax

I think she's still having nightmares about the exam she got to check for dilation .

I think she's ready to be not pregnant anymore (or as she puts it "to meet our little girl.") However, they offered her a procedure that "Sometimes" starts labor, but since it was apparently more painful than the exam she opted to wait. (I didn't object, because, as I noted, my mom is a Christmas birthday, and I don't want to do anything that increases the odds of another family member complaining about that.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:41 AM (HDwDg)

194 And, if we should normalize relations with Cuba because that will make them do whatever, why then not do the same with North Korea?

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:41 AM (MMC8r)

195 Imma just repost this here, so we can all glory in the wisdom of the troll:

"China is Fascist, not Communist."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:41 AM (kff5f)

196
A few of my European rellies have regular holidays in Cuba and they love it

Fly there, straight to the resort, stay with same language speaking people for 7 days, never venture out of the resort and the only Cubans they see are resort staff

They don't care about the politics, they love the very cheap holiday plus the suntan...

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (b/1aA)

197 "why not do the same with North Korea"

their beaches suck and they don't smoke weed

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (odDZy)

198 Boring, troll, is, boring.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014


You were short some punctuation there, Allen

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (2Ayux)

199 And if you really want a tank, Bannion has an M1A1 in his garage, with a full load of bee-hive rounds.

But he won't share.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (Zu3d9)



*narrows eyes*

Heads up, Horde. A position in the alextopia upper legions may soon arise.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (mf5HN)

200 The Troll just out- retarded itself.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (3jmxp)

201 So, who's going to fess up that they saw The Hardliners open for the Sex Pistols at the Palladium in 1978?

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (tsGZY)

202 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (kff5f)

The morals we invented have to be presented as things we did not invent.

Morals come from us but they won't work for most people unless they are convinced they came from something other than us.



Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (MQEz6)

203 My favorite goat I call Randy Paul. She ain't no isolationist, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (LFK6k)

204 China is Fascist, not Communist.

And Hector flounders like a fool.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (MMC8r)

205 "why not do the same with North Korea"

their beaches suck and they don't smoke weed
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (odDZy)


Besides, it's hard to have diplomatic relations with a radioactive pile.


Wait... that only what I *wish* would happen to the NORKs.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (kff5f)

206 Round eye troll who stand with hand in pocket feel cocky.

Posted by: Chairman Mao at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (8wPsx)

207 Why can't he be both - mentally ill and a radical Muslim?
It seems that his religion is the match that released the powder keg of crazy.
I mean, you think those bloodthirsty ISIS guys mutilating infidels in Iraq are sane?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (ABcz/)

208 Tsrblke,
The baby will come when she's ready. I hope for your sake it's not on Christmas.

She's just anxious?

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:44 AM (sj3Ax)

209 aussie

no offense to your family, but that kind of free-loading is repulsive

it only benefits the Leninist regime

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:44 AM (odDZy)

210 This reminds me of the central flaw of The Vow. As
many women have noted, if I wake up after an accident and Channing Tatum
is there looking terribly concerned and says "Hi. I'm your husband"?
I'm just going with that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (mf5HN)

Lol. This already made my day.

Posted by: Viv Savage at December 23, 2014 09:44 AM (HRo7B)

211 How will your tax money be used to prop up Cuba?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (cnb+O)

I rest easy at night, knowing that my betters will only use the voluntary tax donations we make to our beneficent government for a good purpose in helping a Castro run Cuba assume its rightful place in the New World Order!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (fL/7/)

212 Hector is still here? Why isn't someone banning it?

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (sj3Ax)

213 199. A position in the alextopia upper legions may soon arise.

Don't you mean upper shelf?
Oh wait.......

Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (MaUQj)

214
143 NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank*

Hi there and it is a special place.. andI must post some headlines from the Northern Territory News - some of them are priceless

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (b/1aA)

215 The majority of people believe that the government should give free stuff to everyone. Only you hardline right-wingers oppose something so sensible.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (bHnlE)

216 Let's eat Grandma.

Let's eat, Grandma.

Commas save lives.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (2Ojst)

217 I wonder if TFG read the papers and found out he is sending 1300 more combat troops to Iraq. That'll put a sad-face on his first luau I'm sure.

Posted by: MTF at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (LISuA)

218 Morals come from us but they won't work for most people unless they are convinced they came from something other than us.

You're arguing in a circle here, and it's a) really frustrating and b) nonsensical.

So a different way, then: if morals "come from us" please explain how and from whence they came? And why the vast majority of the human race would have such incredibly compatible views of morality?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (kff5f)

219 Damn it, that was supposed to be under a troll sock.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (bHnlE)

220 Some other troll, or the same troll with a fake nic, made the same or a similar not communist but fascist claim a while back about another communist regime

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (Zmw74)

221
eventually obama will hand over Guantanamo

obama has a lot still to do in the next 2 years -- things, bad things, will be occuring very rapidly from now on

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (TX2fN)

222 Really enjoying watching Wilhelm DeStalino squirm.

I just wish it hadn't taken such a tragedy...

Posted by: Citizen X at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (7ObY1)

223 How will your tax money be used to prop up Cuba?

Foreign aid.

And you'll be leading the demand.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (MMC8r)

224 Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (ABcz/)

And perfectly sane but violent people will gravitate to Islam because:

IT IS VIOLENT!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (Zu3d9)

225 Commas save lives.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (2Ojst)


Or at least sanity.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (kff5f)

226 ISNA is very big on college campuses. Thru their Muslim Student Association. I don't think he read Arabic as he claimed. His family seems more Nation of Islam than real islam. But the ISNA connection is important and must be explored. Because they were the ones getting young members to join the Garner Ferguson protests



What if he were a "community organizer"? Who was he talking to on the phone before he did it?

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (zOTsN)

227 >>>andI must post some headlines from the Northern Territory News - some of them are priceless

Is it like your version of Florida?

Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (3ZtZW)

228
Meanwhile over at Reason.com, "Secondary Metabolites! Nom nom!":

Don't Try to Blame "Rhetoric" for the Deaths of Officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos

Jesse Walker is Reason's Books Editor and author of The United States of Paranoia.




This excuse is now officially a trend. Next step, #hashtag!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (kdS6q)

229 I totally agree, BUT his going to a radical mosque is not news?


http://tinyurl.com/mbuamdq

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (0FSuD)


I think it's news. The media however only reports on this type of peripheral information if it supports their agenda. Here it doesn't, which I guess was your point.

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (/Mxso)

230 Just wait for the castor bros to empty the jails again with another clueless dem in the White House

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:48 AM (Zmw74)

231 *narrows eyes*

Heads up, Horde. A position in the alextopia upper legions may soon arise.


/materializes next to AtC with gallon of spiked eggnog

How you doin'?...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 23, 2014 09:48 AM (DT3rQ)

232 ...if I wake up after an accident and Channing Tatum
is there looking terribly concerned and says "Hi. I'm your husband"?
I'm just going with that.


Like a screen door in a hurricane!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:48 AM (ABcz/)

233 Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:44 AM (sj3Ax)

We're both anxious.

She's also tired of the back aches, breathing problems, etc. etc. etc.

Given that the procedure in question ("stripping the membranes") only has a *chance* of starting labor, I doubt we'll take the doc up on the offer even if nothing happens by the next appointment (which would still be 4 days before her due date.)

Although, the chance to score a tax break this year is pretty tempting .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (HDwDg)

234 Let's eat Grandma.

Don't knock it till you've tried it.

Posted by: Zombie George Burns at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (HKvMD)

235 Can the Cubans promise me they'll kill every cedar tree in Central Texas?

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (MYCIw)

236 Heads up, Horde. A position in the alextopia upper legions may soon arise.

*FedExs piece of dark chocolate mint cheesecake with mini york peppermint patties*

My wife made this for me, but you can have some.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (kff5f)

237
148 Heralder

The cyclone was heading elsewhere, then suddenly veered in towards Darwin

Nothing like that had happened before - of course we have had plenty of cyclones up north but the whole region is sparsely populated

So this cyclone hits the major city in the north of OZ...

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (b/1aA)

238 I saw Wilhem DeStalino open for Tony Bennett at Carnegie Hall, Christmas 1998

Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (3ZtZW)

239 Al Sharpton, Communist Groups Say They Wont Abide By De Blasios Call For Protest Moratorium Until After Slain Cops Funerals



De Blasio seems to forgotten hes dealing with media whore.

Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:50 AM (Zmw74)

240 Can the Cubans promise me they'll kill every cedar tree in Central Texas?

No!

Those make good firewood. Also good furniture.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:50 AM (kff5f)

241 Bob Belcher,
It's pretty hard to out retard yourself like the troll has.

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (sj3Ax)

242
Rason exists only to scream at others for overreacting.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (TX2fN)

243 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (kff5f)

Is he suggesting an alternative to a theistic origin?

Because then I would argue that rights are a natural condition of humanity.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (Zu3d9)

244 240 Can the Cubans promise me they'll kill every cedar tree in Central Texas?

No!

Those make good firewood. Also good furniture.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:50 AM (kff5f)

Cedar closets.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (2Ojst)

245 Al Sharpton, Communist Groups Say They Wont Abide By De Blasios Call For Protest Moratorium Until After Slain Cops Funerals

Wait, are they COMMUNIST or FASCIST?

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (MMC8r)

246 Stripping the membranes hurts like a bitch, from what all my girlfirends tell me. All my babies have come early so I don't have any personal experience there.

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (MYCIw)

247 De Blasio is just another clueless, leftard, know nothing dumbass. Nothing more.

Posted by: maddogg at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (xWW96)

248 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (kff5f

Most humanists I know insist that humans are self-perfectible and that morals come from somewhere in there.

Ask them though where our logic comes from that makes us better than mere animals and they get stuck. Horribly Horribly stuck.

Or that fall back to a sort of Nietzsche/Singer type idea that we're really not better. (In which case we have no morals. Game, set, checkmate.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (HDwDg)

249 Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:50 AM (Zmw74)

Part of me wants to see a protest at one of the funerals.

As I mentioned yesterday, I think the cops would go ballistic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)

250 Well. we call it cedar, but what I'm really talking about is the accursed Ashe Juniper. I don't care if that evil tree cures cancer, I want them all dead. Ahhhhchoooo! *grabs inhaler*

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (MYCIw)

251 All just synonyms for Monarchy.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (OCcU9)

252 The cyclone was heading elsewhere, then suddenly veered in towards Darwin


Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (b/1aA)


That's terrible. My thoughts are with you all on this anniversary.

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (/Mxso)

253 If Sharpton protests at a funeral, I want MSNBC shut down.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (MMC8r)

254 news you can use:

according to the trees, the earth has been cooling for 2,000 years:

http://tinyurl.com/q5w2rph

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (odDZy)

255 >>Al Sharpton, Communist Groups Say They Wont Abide By De Blasios Call For Protest Moratorium Until After Slain Cops Funerals


Yeah, and how cynical was that request? "Please stop...until after the funerals. Then feel free to start up again."

What a tool de Blasio for not saying enough is enough, just end the protest full stop before it gets worse. It's no longer a protest when there's a body count.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (ABcz/)

256
192 Lizzy

Yes it's Christmas Eve here and it's 2am - should be tucked up in bed!

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (b/1aA)

257 Two 9-1-1 union dispatchers. Reportedly said, "They deserved it". Should give
the cops warm fuzzies knowing that they have their backs.



You know, the ones taking the original call and relaying ALL of the pertinent info. Like a possible ambush.

More accurate.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (XzRw1)

258 I think Hector burned out with that last stupid.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (MMC8r)

259 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (HDwDg)

I have always been puzzled by that logic. Is it really irrational to assume that even in the absence of a divine origin we are not different than the animals?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (Zu3d9)

260 Part of me wants to see a protest at one of the funerals.

As I mentioned yesterday, I think the cops would go ballistic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)

yeah but deep down the protesters know that and ultimately they are gutless bastards, so I doubt they would do that. But we will see

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:54 AM (Zmw74)

261 Is he suggesting an alternative to a theistic origin?

Because then I would argue that rights are a natural condition of humanity.
Posted by:CBD


He seems to be making a humanist argument (we "made them up"). And Rights *are* a natural condition of humanity, but only because morals are as well.

Or that fall back to a sort of Nietzsche/Singer type idea that we're really not better. (In which case we have no morals. Game, set, checkmate.)
Posted by: tsrblke


Shhhhh!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:54 AM (kff5f)

262 Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (MYCIw)

She about rolled off the table during the check. I thought she was going to pass out honestly.

I dunno if her doctor thought she knew what was coming, didn't want to warn her for fear she'd tense up or just spaced on that.

When he said "the stripping will hurt worse than that" she said "yeah...I'll pass."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:54 AM (HDwDg)

263 @204
The Communists in China have morphed into Fascism. They are state capitalists with a national nationalist ideology. That's Fascism.

Stop being ignorant and realize things change.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:54 AM (cnb+O)

264 Rev. Al goes Full Westboro.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:55 AM (MMC8r)

265 Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (ABcz/)

Context is everything.

To most liberals living in Western "Civilization", the violent acts of a radical muslim are obviously those of someone that is mentally ill. Since religion is a meaningless concept to these liberals, the muslim connection has no bearing on the whacko diagnosis.

To muslims living in a muslim "civilization", the violent acts of a radical muslim are obviously those of someone that is a true defender of the faith and thus cannot be the result of mental illness.

To the few sane people living in the tattered mess that once was Western Civilization, and still able to connect the dots in spite of years of government and media propaganda, it is clear that the violent acts of a radical muslim are obviously those of someone that is mentally ill, with a direct causal connection to islam, a religion that fosters exactly this kind of aberrant behavior.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 09:55 AM (fL/7/)

266 *hiccup*

Posted by: John Boehner at December 23, 2014 09:55 AM (XzRw1)

267 Is it really irrational to assume that even in the absence of a divine origin we are not different than the animals?

Actually... yes. Because the primary thing that sets us apart from the animals is Reason. But Reason cannot logically arise from non-reason.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (kff5f)

268 So, no one has asked the important question regarding normalization: Who will Obama select as the ambassador to Cuba? Who will be the first ambassador to Cuba in over 50 years?

I am betting Jay-Z or Russell Simmons. Maybe Danny Glover? Maybe Ed Asner?

And who will Cuba send to U.S. as an ambassador?

I am betting Elian Gonzalez.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (iAUf+)

269 Part of me wants to see a protest at one of the funerals.
As I mentioned yesterday, I think the cops would go ballistic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)


I think they would want to, but their innate respect for the solemnity of the occasion would keep them in line.

Which is a pity, because I'd love to see Sharpton get a hickory shampoo from a mounted NY cop.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (zF6Iw)

270 Nevergiveup,
Did you read story under that one at WZ? Ed Shultz is trying to compare SCOAMT & Cuba to Reagan & "tear down this wall."

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (sj3Ax)

271 i don't mind walmart start ups in Cuba. Although I do hope they remember Cuba has a history of stealing Business' and property.

Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (nqBYe)

272 Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:54 AM (cnb+O)

Absolutely!

I think, sense have made here you, and applaud, not when bravery out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (Zu3d9)

273 Complain all you want, but the hardline right lost on Cuba. Most Republicans support diplomatic relations with Cuba.

You lose again!

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (cnb+O)

274 Some other troll, or the same troll with a fake nic, made the same or a similar not communist but fascist claim a while back

about another communist regime
Posted by: Nevergiveup


About D.C.?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (k3WXB)

275 239
Al Sharpton, Communist Groups Say They Wont Abide By De Blasios Call For Protest Moratorium Until After Slain Cops Funerals






Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:50 AM (Zmw74)


I happened to find myself in Union Square last night (much to my chagrin) and several groups of slack-jawed lackwits were roaming through the Christmas market singing protest "songs", using phrases like "I can't breathe".

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (/Mxso)

276 I think Hector burned out with that last stupid.
Posted by: ---

Hector owns the Berkeley Pit of stupid. http://tinyurl.com/k99n7x2

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (LFK6k)

277 Actually... yes. Because the primary thing that sets us apart from the animals is Reason. But Reason cannot logically arise from non-reason.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (kff5f)

That's very Aquinasian. Aquinian. You sound like Aquinas.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (2Ojst)

278 "Two 9-1-1 dispatchers. Reportedly said, "They deserved it".

If true, I don't understand how they were allowed to leave the room under their own power

---------------

Everyone involved knows which side the managers et al would come down on. If for no other reason than to avoid becoming the next target of protests, lawsuits etc.

Posted by: Chico Esquella at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (K44uE)

279 i am happy that Cuba thug leadership will have an opportunity to steal more property while allowing their citizenry nothing more than the allotted porridge.

Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (nqBYe)

280
209 Feh

Hi and I totally agree with you

I wasn't too happy because they always whinge about the cost of coming to OZ to see me and my lovely country

They only want the suntan ...couldn't care less about the politics

Not my favourite rellies

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (b/1aA)

281 Just becasue the hardline right dominates online, does not mean you have that much influence in real life. Most of you are isolated angry shut ins.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (cnb+O)

282 I used to be a hardliner, until I tried ComfyBalls.

ComfyBalls: This is one edge worth losing.

Posted by: Fritz at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (dVmLD)

283 all we are saaaaying....

is give those thugs a chance .
Not the cuban people , but the lovely leaders of the dictatorship to prosper.

Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (nqBYe)

284 "isolated angry shut ins"

lol

you wish

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (odDZy)

285 I guess it's open season on protestors in NYC then.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (XzRw1)

286 "...their innate respect for the solemnity of the occasion would keep them in line."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (zF6Iw)

Then you haven't spent enough time around progs (and lucky you!), because they don't give a rat's ass for anything other than their goals. As Nevergiveup pointed out, they do however know that they would get the shit beaten out of them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (Zu3d9)

287 I'll take fat Black women for a $1000, Alex.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (0FSuD)


Answer must be in the form of a question.

Who is consistently, gratuitously racist?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 23, 2014 10:00 AM (1xUj/)

288 No, Hector's back with more stupid.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:00 AM (MMC8r)

289 Absolutely!
I think, sense have made here you, and applaud, not when bravery out



Master Yoda!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:00 AM (k3WXB)

290 eventually obama will hand over Guantanamo



obama has a lot still to do in the next 2 years -- things, bad things, will be occuring very rapidly from now on

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (TX2fN)

Every day I wonder if that idiot Juan McCain looks in the mirror and says to himself, "Maybe, just maybe I should have told people that they should be scared to death of a Barack Obama in the White House?"

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (fL/7/)

291 I have always been puzzled by that logic. Is it really irrational to assume that even in the absence of a divine origin we are not different than the animals?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (Zu3d9)


Strictly speaking: probably not.

But it becomes really hard to articulate how we became different.

Evolution can't design. It can only select from the randomness of mutation.

Now it may have selected the hyper intelligence of humans (Personally I'm not convinced, but whatever) but it can't explain why that intelligence (And the logic derived from it) is better than the raw competition of animals.

Put differently, you merely have to assert it's better. You can start with that as an assertion, but it's more or less unprovable.

Unless you can prove it, in which case, go ahead.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (HDwDg)

292 That's very Aquinasian. Aquinian. You sound like Aquinas.

Naaa. I'm a Sagittarius.






Actually, I've never read Thomas Aquinas. I probably should one of these days. But it is a recurring theme in philosophy. I'm pretty sure that Socrates would have agreed with Aquinas.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (kff5f)

293
227 Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb

"Is it like your version of Florida?"

Well I hadn't thought of that, but yes!

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (b/1aA)

294 I don't know about the NYC rioters, but the Ferguson mob was infiltrated by CAIR, Answer and Palestinians. Between and the Brown family ("burn this $#%^% up!!!") I didn't see anyone innate respect for cops or a sense of propriety.

I want peace for the family of the slain officers, but *if* the protesters show up it will go a long way in demonstrating who they really are. Harder for the MSM to cover up the ugliness.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (ABcz/)

295 Not my favourite rellies

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (b/1aA)

How about me?

I have been there once, and had a glorious time. You live in a great place.

[I'll make the bed every day, and cook too!]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (Zu3d9)

296 Stalin was a Fascist! No really . The hard liners just wanted to give communism a bad name. Wake up people!

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (3jmxp)

297 Then you haven't spent enough time around progs (and lucky you!), because they don't give a rat's ass for anything other than their goals. As Nevergiveup pointed out, they do however know that they would get the shit beaten out of them.

I think MP4 was referring to the Cops. Not the protestors.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:02 AM (kff5f)

298 Oh, great, another local cop kills a dog. This time it was a K9 doggie that killed the pet dog. Geez.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:02 AM (ABcz/)

299 So the thugacaracy of Cuba will be rewarded for theft of their citizens property, making cuban citizenry lose any opportunity of rising from their alloted allowance in life.

Yay for Cuban leadership!

Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:02 AM (nqBYe)

300 http://dontpkethebear.com/kid-writes-santa-an-angry-letter-then-gets-this-response/

Letter to Santa- pretty funny

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:03 AM (Zmw74)

301 give peas a chance i say!

Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:03 AM (nqBYe)

302 Harder for the MSM to cover up the ugliness.


Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (ABcz/)


Nah, it'll just be a few "bad apples".

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 10:03 AM (/Mxso)

303 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (Zu3d9)

I think you misunderstood me, CBD. I mean the cops' respect for the occasion would keep them in line instead of going full Chicago on the OWS scum.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (zF6Iw)

304 301 give peas a chance i say!
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:03 AM (nqBYe)

Visualize whirled peas.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (2Ojst)

305 @296
Stalin was a Communist. The Chicoms stopped being Communist a while back. They are a state capitalist economy, with a nationalist ideology propping up the regime. They are Fascist by any definition. Do the research on Fascism and China's current system. See if I am wrong, I dare you.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (cnb+O)

306 How can we be isolated when we're all here together?

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (0xTsz)

307 reward Castros regime!

who cares about the thousands floating up on american shores , running from the lovely leaderships threats?

Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (nqBYe)

308 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (kff5f)

You would probably like Thomas Aquinas. Very logical in his own way. He was the intellectual underpinning (pro and con) for much of what we call philosophy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (Zu3d9)

309 Well, at least it's not the communists any more.

Posted by: Guy Hanging on the Wall in Chinese Prison at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (MMC8r)

310 I guess it's open season on protestors in NYC then.



Bag limit?
Um, asking for a friend.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (k3WXB)

311 I think you misunderstood me, CBD. I mean the cops' respect for the occasion would keep them in line instead of going full Chicago on the OWS scum.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (zF6Iw)


I agree, however, I also think several of them would follow the protesters to another location and start cracking skulls.

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (/Mxso)

312 Madness of the Modern Leftist
The Daily Caller @DailyCaller
Students Rally Around Peer With 'No Sympathy' For Dead Cops At $60,000-A-Year Brandeis trib.al/5hb6ZPU

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (ZPrif)

313 ]who cares about the thousands floating up on american shores , running from the lovely leaderships threats?

More wives for Hector!

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (MMC8r)

314 How come the animal kingdom still uses the finders keepers and might makes right structure. Don't they know they are suppose to evolve out of these 'anti morals' ?

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (3jmxp)

315 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (zF6Iw)

I misunderstood.

Sorry.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (Zu3d9)

316 "What causes American Murders?"

Ummmm.......murderers?


Posted by: 1bulwetweft


I'm thinking the answer is "the Patriarchy." It and Whitey are pretty much the cause of everything bad that's ever happened or will happen.

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (/Ho8c)

317 I think the protestors will not be at risk from the cops




They won't show. Blue flu. There will be areas and neighborhoods they simply won't go to anymore. Like Bed Stuy. They want less police, they'll get it.

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (zOTsN)

318 Bag limit?

Varmint. No limit.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (XzRw1)

319 Gee, if only they were fascists...

Posted by: Guy Shot Trying To Escape Cuba on an Innertube at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (MMC8r)

320 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (kff5f

Aquinas followed from Aristotle.

So kinda.

If you grant evolution, then order did indeed arise out of chaos. The humanists might argue that it shows reason can form out of nonreason (again, I disagree, but playing devil's advocate here.)

It still leaves you with the inevitable problem: how do you judge reason as "better" absent mere assertion? You can't.

You can probably get close with utilitarian arguments, but those still require a value distinction that has no actual basis.

You can however get to it via an appeal to an outside source (i.e. God.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (HDwDg)

321 >>Students Rally Around Peer With 'No Sympathy' For Dead Cops

Yeah, did you see her name?
She also hates America so much. Is she even an American?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (ABcz/)

322 255

It's no longer a protest when there's a body count.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (ABcz/)


Only angry, hardline, right-wingers would focus on two brutal murders rather than admit that the protests have been mostly peaceful.

Posted by: Time for douching at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (bHnlE)

323 You would probably like Thomas Aquinas. Very logical in his own way.

That's what I've heard.

And I know that, for instance, CS Lewis drew heavily on Aquinas for Mere Christianity (the first 3rd of the book focuses on what Christian Apologists call "general revelation"). But I rarely read non-fiction. I tend to think of reading as an escape, and non-fiction rarely lets me escape.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (kff5f)

324 Lizzy,
Who are Answers?

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (sj3Ax)

325 Oh, great, another local cop kills a dog. This time it was a K9 doggie that killed the pet dog. Geez.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:02 AM (ABcz/)
***********
WHEN ARE RACIST POLICE DOGS GOING TO STOP KILLING DOGS OF COLOR?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (32Ze2)

326 I think you misunderstood me, CBD. I mean the cops' respect for the occasion would keep them in line instead of going full Chicago on the OWS scum.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (zF6Iw)

I agree, however, I also think several of them would follow the protesters to another location and start cracking skulls.

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (/Mxso)

Gee I am not so sure about that. Feelings are as hot as I have ever seen or heard in NYC. I can easily see things spinning quickly out of control.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (Zmw74)

327 ok, my real thoughts.

Cuban citizens actually had to run after Castros reign of fear , theft, rounding up dissenters.

Cuban people that didn't drop to their knees fast enough.. well Who cares right?

theft , murder.

but hey it's been fifty years (like Castro is dead right!)

ok nevvermind about his kind hearted brother, He IS a good guy!

He is!

ok so not so srs, just fkn mad as hell.

reward the fks, The cuban people WILL prosper! we just Know that!

Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (nqBYe)

328 They won't show. Blue flu. There will be areas and neighborhoods they simply won't go to anymore. Like Bed Stuy. They want less police, they'll get it.

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (zOTsN)


Now would be the time for real men of the cloth in Bed-Sty to publicly hold rallies in support of all lives, not just black ones.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:08 AM (zF6Iw)

329 After reading the dump, I don't care any more. More precisely, I don't fucking care anymore, I'm fucking sick and tired of it all.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:08 AM (U93Mr)

330 Although, the chance to score a tax break this year is pretty tempting .
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (HDwDg)

I'm right there with you, tsrblke! Wife is scheduled to be induced on the 29th if the little guy doesn't decide to join us before then.

Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:08 AM (659DL)

331 I've unintentionally entered the retard loop. Luckily it's easy to extract oneself.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (3jmxp)

332
295 CharlieBrown'sDildo

Hello, cousin!

Can you cook?

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (b/1aA)

333 They won't show. Blue flu. There will be areas and
neighborhoods they simply won't go to anymore. Like Bed Stuy. They
want less police, they'll get it.

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (zOTsN)


I was thinking about that last night. Since the people in the neighborhoods do not want to be policed and think any application of the law is racism, stop policing them entirely. See what happens to the already astronomical black on black crime rates.

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (/Mxso)

334 Morning Horde.


Rand Paul is airing Festivus grievances on twitter. Pretty funny. Couple little swipes at Santorum and Rubio.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (da5Wo)

335 I see Revvin' Al has told DeBolshevik that he will not abide his call to delay protests until after the cops' funerals because shut up. Lie down with dogs . . .

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (XUKZU)

336 I'm thinking the answer is "the Patriarchy." It and Whitey are pretty much the cause of everything bad that's ever happened or will happen.
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (/Ho8c)

White, straight, cis-gendered conservative males. The root of all evil.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (2Ojst)

337 >>Calls for calm after incidents in France injure over 20

"Unrelated attacks"

"appeared to be 'unbalanced' and not motivated by religion or politics"

"It was undetermined if religion provoked his actions."

"insisted there is no link"

UPI article. Even if you didn't know what was going on, there would be subtle clues...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (0xTsz)

338 329
After reading the dump, I don't care any more. More precisely, I don't
fucking care anymore, I'm fucking sick and tired of it all.

Bottle up the anger and frustration. It will come to good use during the burning times.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (XzRw1)

339 aw, fk it, i'm going to go outside stand in the cold air and erase this bastard ideas from my head.

Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (nqBYe)

340 @299
Whine all you want, but you hardliners have lost on the Cuba issue. Even most Republican support normalization of relations.

You lose again!

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (cnb+O)

341 I'm right there with you, tsrblke! Wife is scheduled to be induced on the 29th if the little guy doesn't decide to join us before then.

Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:08 AM (659DL)



Congrats Mainah! Boy or girl?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (da5Wo)

342 Rand Paul is airing Festivus grievances on twitter. Pretty funny. Couple little swipes at Santorum and Rubio.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (da5Wo

Is he wearing a sweater borrowed from his old man screaming for the return of the gold standard and demanding an audit of the Fed? If he's not, he can STFU as well. Crazy scum bag.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (U93Mr)

343 DRUDGE REPORT @DRUDGE_REPORT 5m
How the U.S. helped Cuban spy impregnate wife... http://drudge.tw/13tsnfn

Obama had American fly the dude's sperm to Cuba. The dude we had locked for life as a Cuban spy. Two consecutive life terms for espionage. In jail since 1998.

But released by Obama 8 months after his wife got pregnant, thx to America flying his sperm to Cuba.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (ZPrif)

344
Yeah you know what?

These morning news dumps suck. Nothing personal, Benk, but your morning kick in the balls every day ruins my morning and is bad for my health.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (TX2fN)

345 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (zF6Iw)

Yup. I misunderstood.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (Zu3d9)

346 If you grant evolution, then order did indeed arise out of chaos.

I do not grant a Darwinian rise of life. Once life gets here, I'm fine with "evolution" (though even that term is hard to pin down, I've found many people who believe in "evolution" believe in it differently).

But that gets into a whole 'nother discussion.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (kff5f)

347 @334
Rand Paul is standing up to the hardline right. He is a hero to many libertarian and center-right types tired of hardline bullies.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (cnb+O)

348 Aquinas followed from Aristotle.

-
That Greek homo Aristotle stole it from Africa!

Posted by: Revvin' Al at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (XUKZU)

349 Speaking of not wanting to be policed. I grew up in this really weird little hippy commune/ coal mining town in Colorado.

A strange combination of people, to be sure. Anyway, somehow the queen hippie got elected mayor, and as her first order of business she disbanded the (2 member) police force. The town was very excited not to have anyone busting their pot parties and issuing speeding tickets.

The county, however, was less excited about having to deal with inevitable issues that arise in a town that doesn't have any cops.

After she was run out of office after some scandal that I no longer remember, the new mayor decided that having no cops was just silly. So we got one. Progress!

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (MYCIw)

350 Bottle up the anger and frustration. It will come to good use during the burning times.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (XzRw1)

I seem to be out of empty containers, care to share with me?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (U93Mr)

351 It's always nice when a regime takes off the Boot of Communism and puts on the Slightly-Different-Color Boot of Fascism.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (MMC8r)

352
Who are you, anyway, Benk?

Where did you come from?? One day you suddenly appeared and WHAM! we're getting kicked in the balls by you every morning.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (TX2fN)

353 Part of me wants to see a protest at one of the funerals.

As I mentioned yesterday, I think the cops would go ballistic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)



I think they would want to, but their innate respect for the solemnity of the occasion would keep them in line.
===========

I should remind you that you will never, ever be able to under-estimate the evil, stupidity and pure unfiltered assholeness of the left.

The same people who have disrupted operas, sporting events, shut down malls, blocked streets and freeways--they have not one fucking shred of respect for any one else.

Fred Phelps is a Democrat.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (5yHi1)

354 See

the troll spells fascism correctly and ID'd it as a primarily economic theory.

Its a commenter posing as a troll

Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (3ZtZW)

355 Alright. Time to work at work...

BBL.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (kff5f)

356 Unless you can prove it, in which case, go ahead.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (HDwDg)

Thank you for understanding that "design" is the worst word possible to use to describe evolution.

It is certainly possible that evolution provided a unique structure in the human brain. There are plenty of unique traits; why not a soul?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (Zu3d9)

357 My 2¢ less tax:

Just as physics is inherent to the physical universe, so is morality inherent in personality self-awareness.

Recognizing self and other will lead to moral righteousness. On any planet, anywhere in Creation.

As 'other' includes Deity conception, the Creator will be acknowledged as the one who 'built in' the facts, meanings, and values of life, but such faith-understanding is not requisite to discerning things, relationships, and righteousness.

For me, the Commandment is, Love God as your Father, but the second like unto it, love your neighbor as yourself, can be understood even in ignorance of the first part.

Am I being muddy here? Trying to be commentarily concise on a gigantic issue, while twiddling with this virtual keypad instead of real typing.

Posted by: mindful webworker - theologian, philosopher, janitor at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (UOsvH)

358 I've found many people who believe in "evolution" believe in it differently

-
I'm a big bang evolutionist. I believe the more you bang, the more you evolve.

Posted by: Tghe Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (XUKZU)

359 Humans are animals, but they are animals that can design, build, craft, draw, write, speak, contemplate, sow, harvest, communicate, philosophize, and socialize, just like all the other animals do!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (fL/7/)

360 Good!


Medal of Honor Recipient, Army staff sergeant Clint Romesha DENIES Michelle Obama for SOTU Address

Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (fWAjv)

361 It is my understanding that the protesters are already harassing the officers families. I think I saw something on Twitter about it.

Posted by: Trunk Monkey, Aiming His Torpedo at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (32Ze2)

362 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (HDwDg)

And it is discussions such as this that expose the flaws in the internet.

God created bars specifically for these chats.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (Zu3d9)

363 @324
Rand Paul is a hero standing up to hardline thugs.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (cnb+O)

364 I think I'll go find breakfast. My frontal lobes need a break.


Hmmm, applewood smoked goat bacon. Tasty.

Posted by: fairweatherbill gatekeeper of pestilence at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (LFK6k)

365 Gee. You'd think Castro would meet the definition of 'hardliner,' wouldn't you?

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (MMC8r)

366 360 Good!


Medal of Honor Recipient, Army staff sergeant Clint Romesha DENIES Michelle Obama for SOTU Address
Posted by: RWC

Something terrible will happen to him or his immediate family. Just sayin.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (U93Mr)

367 Congrats Mainah! Boy or girl?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (da5Wo)

Boy. We're hoping his 2 year old sister will be a calming influence on him. Right? Right!? yeah, unlikely. heh.

Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (659DL)

368 "lost"?

Obama acted unilaterally

we'll see who "loses," troll

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (odDZy)

369 Well the troll is a Paulinian...no surprise there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (Zmw74)

370 Speaking of not wanting to be policed. I grew up in this really weird little hippy commune/ coal mining town in Colorado.

-
Which one?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (XUKZU)

371 My movies make great gifts! Let my gift be yours!

Posted by: Jerry Lewis at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (LhMb4)

372
Is he wearing a sweater borrowed from his old man screaming for the return of the gold standard and demanding an audit of the Fed? If he's not, he can STFU as well. Crazy scum bag.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (U93Mr)



*ahem*

Might I suggest, my friend, the decaf?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:17 AM (da5Wo)

373 371 My movies make great gifts! Let my gift be yours!
Posted by: Jerry Lewis at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (LhMb4)

Within the week Jerry Lewis had hosted a telethon, La La Nice Lady.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:17 AM (U93Mr)

374 It's always nice when a regime takes off the Boot of Communism and puts on the Slightly-Different-Color Boot of Fascism.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (MMC8r)

I will really worry when they bring out the Red-Stiletto of Facism.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (fL/7/)

375 Heralder ... I could not agree more. Then, resist the urge to rebuild for them.


It does not bother me when people shit in their own nests. It pisses me off to the point of violence when they come to shit in MY nest.


I remain convinced this is one reason that Progressives/Communists/Socialists/Fascists cling to the notion of everything and everybody being "connected". Without that connection, it's really easy to just turn one's back to the stupid
bastards.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (1vFHw)

376 Boy. We're hoping his 2 year old sister will be a calming influence on him. Right? Right!? yeah, unlikely. heh.

Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (659DL)



Hahahahahahahahahahahaha


You're expecting a 2 yr old girl to be a calming influence? Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (da5Wo)

377 @369
You are neo-con Islamic as kisser anti-Latino black hating racist loser!

Rand Paul is giving us who oppose the neocon-socon-nativist axis of evil a voice to resist your evil agenda.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (cnb+O)

378 *ahem*

Might I suggest, my friend, the decaf?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:17

You mean my half-caf aint cutting it. Sorry BC. I'm just in one of those moods.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:19 AM (U93Mr)

379 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (Zu3d9

Because by definition a soul exists beyond matter.

And evolution is an entirely material process.

Now if you define soul as "reasoning capability" sure, you could randomly throw something together that gets that. But you're still hard pressed to argue why it's "better."

Cockroaches out compete us.
Viruses live in far more extreme environments.
Many animals are better hunters.

The humanists have two choices: declare reason to be the ultimate good (with no basis other than personal preference) or declare animals and man to be roughly equivalent (the Singer path.)

As for "design" I've spent enough time with tenured biochemists who act like nature is an intelligent designer, I'm fully aware of that obvious contradiction.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:19 AM (HDwDg)

380 Congrats, Mainah!

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:19 AM (sj3Ax)

381 I think they would want to, but their innate respect for the solemnity of the occasion would keep them in line.



Besides, it's best served cold.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:20 AM (k3WXB)

382 gosh, what do those Chinese CPC officials call themselves these days, and what is their logo? it's right there in front of my eyes, but I can't see it

it must be more complex, it's got to be some kind of trick

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:20 AM (odDZy)

383 Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

You're expecting a 2 yr old girl to be a calming influence? Lol.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (da5Wo)

Hahaha, I know, pipedream. She's going to have him belting out Frozen songs and bossing him around like there's no tomorrow.

Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (659DL)

384 Congrats, Mainah!
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:19 AM (sj3Ax)

Thanks, Carol!

Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (659DL)

385 Great White Snark.

Oak Creek

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (MYCIw)

386
You are neo-con Islamic as kisser anti-Latino black hating racist loser!



NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (MMC8r)

387 Rand Paul is giving us who oppose the neocon-socon-nativist axis of evil a voice to resist your evil agenda.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (cnb+O)



*waves*

HI HECTOR!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (da5Wo)

388 Hahaha, I know, pipedream. She's going to have him belting out Frozen songs and bossing him around like there's no tomorrow.
Posted by: Mainah


Tea parties.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:23 AM (k3WXB)

389 Because the primary thing that sets us apart from the animals is Reason.

-
That and indoor plumbing.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:23 AM (XUKZU)

390 God created bars specifically for these chats.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (Zu3d9)


You make it out here, and the first drink is on me.

I'll even spring for the Microdistilled whiskey (but we'd have to go to that place, since it's only served in house.)

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (fL/7/

Balderdash.
What other animal describes the cosmos? What other animal does philosophy?
What other animal has invented the internet.

Animals have skills we often do not understand or cannot comprehend (after all we're linguistic creatures, most animals could only be described as such in the broadest meaning of the term).

But to declare they do the same things as us is anthropomorphism of the worst kind.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (HDwDg)

391 Hector hates nativists?

What did the indians ever do to him?

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (MMC8r)

392
Tea parties.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:23 AM (k3WXB

dresses, nail polish, teen age girl friends who are hawt. Could be worse.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (U93Mr)

393 and perfect elbows

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (odDZy)

394 Oak Creek

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I know a lot of Colo. coal towns but not that one.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (XUKZU)

395 see you morons later

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (U93Mr)

396 382 gosh, what do those Chinese CPC officials call themselves these days, and what is their logo? it's right there in front of my eyes, but I can't see it

it must be more complex, it's got to be some kind of trick

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:20 AM (odDZy)


Thinking that CPC officials are "Communist" is as stupid as thinking members of ISIS are "Islamic", which is something I expect from knuckle-dragging, hard-line, right-wingers.

Posted by: Time for douching at December 23, 2014 10:25 AM (bHnlE)

397
dresses, nail polish, teen age girl friends who are hawt. Could be worse.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (U93Mr)

That wasn't creepy at all.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:25 AM (2Ojst)

398 @383
They can call themselves communist all they want, but China is a Fascist regime. Look up the definition of Fascism and study China's system, then get back to me.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:25 AM (cnb+O)

399 lol

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:25 AM (odDZy)

400
Good night everyone - bedtime here

Have a wonderful yesterday and see you tonight when I get back from Midnight Mass ...

Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 10:26 AM (b/1aA)

401 See you, MH. Be well.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:26 AM (zF6Iw)

402 If you can't argue facts, argue definitions.

If you can't argue definitions, shout nativist/hardliner/racist/bigot/homophobe as loud as you can.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:27 AM (MMC8r)

403 Birth order/ gender order is a strange thing.

My kids go boy girl boy girl

The older girl is the girliest girly girl ever except when it comes to playing video games with the boys. Then she turns into a tomboy super nerd. Actual conversation I overheard yesterday:

6 y/o girl "She can one hit kill Kaos? If that's true it would be so awesome!"

9 y/o boy "Well, according to this, she's done it once before, so it is definitely a possibility."

Nerds. NERDS. How did this happen?

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:27 AM (MYCIw)

404 Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:27 AM (MYCIw)

I should be so lucky!

My kid is probably going to be some artist or something.

Or worse: an English major!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:28 AM (HDwDg)

405 Great White,

It's about 20 miles from Steamboat.

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:29 AM (MYCIw)

406 @402
You lost on the cuba relations issue, deal with it.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:29 AM (cnb+O)

407 If you can't win, assert.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:29 AM (MMC8r)

408 OK horde, I'm out. The Mossberg needs to be broken down and given some TLC from deer season.

I've been neglect in my duties towards that thing, and it's time to make it right.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:30 AM (HDwDg)

409 there was no "loss" for hardliners

Obama acted unilaterally

i.e. there was no contest

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:30 AM (odDZy)

410 The economy grew at 5% last quarter and the stock market is at 18,000.

What do you losers have to say now?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (cnb+O)

411 I'm off, too, all. Got to see if I can salvage something from this 50K-odd lump I call a book.

See you tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (zF6Iw)

412 Must maintain your weapons. Keep your eyes peeled for rampaging Italicans, too.

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (/Ho8c)

413 Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (659DL)


Borrow one of BCochran's daughters....I am sure that they are perfectly well behaved and will be a tremendously calming influence.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (Zu3d9)

414 Then she turns into a tomboy super nerd. Actual conversation I overheard yesterday: 6 y/o girl "She can one hit kill Kaos? If that's true it would be so awesome!"
9 y/o boy "Well, according to this, she's done it once before, so it is definitely a possibility."

Nerds. NERDS. How did this happen?



That's not nerd. That's gamer.
Nerds would be arguing the relative force of Thor's hammer and the physics required to make Hadji's carpet fly.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (k3WXB)

415 If you can't win, change the subject.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (MMC8r)

416 Well the troll is a Paulinian...no surprise there

Meh. Average Joe is whatever seems to get the biggest response today.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (rwI+c)

417 City to file charges against Black Lives Matter for Mall of America protests. Good.

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (sj3Ax)

418 I think Hector burned out with that last stupid.

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Hector's got reserves of stupid that a normal man cannot even begin to fathom.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (XUKZU)

419 @409
The majority of Americans, even Republicans support his move.

You lost!

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (cnb+O)

420 My kid is probably going to be some artist or something.
Or worse: an English major!



Better than a theatre major.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:33 AM (k3WXB)

421 Haha, you never know what they'll end up liking. It's funny seeing their minds work though. My older daughter is hilarious. She told me the other day that she wants to be a doctor and a mommy so she should probably be a pediatrician. If I squint, I can sort of see her logic.

She'll probably end up fronting a punk band or something.

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:33 AM (MYCIw)

422 It's about 20 miles from Steamboat. \

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I know Steamboat well.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:33 AM (XUKZU)

423 Leave Hector alone

Retard Lives Matter!

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 10:34 AM (3jmxp)

424 If you can't explain, claim the victory of consensus.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:34 AM (MMC8r)

425 Or worse: an English major!
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:28 AM (HDwDg)


***********

*looks around furtively*


Yeah! Dang English majors!!!


*scuttles away quietly (like a pair of ragged claws across the floors of silent seas)*

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 23, 2014 10:34 AM (vgIRn)

426 I guess the troll didn't read that all the new "job creation" ( see low paying semi-part time) is going to illegals?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:34 AM (Zmw74)

427 Balderdash.

What other animal describes the cosmos? What other animal does philosophy?

What other animal has invented the internet.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (HDwDg)

Um....that was my point. Why are you rejecting the possibility that evolution has a hand in our uniqueness?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (Zu3d9)

428 RickB, true. Of course, those arguments typically come if they're playing Lego Marvel Super Heros.

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (MYCIw)

429 Why are humanists so often inhumane? Maybe they're like vegetarians.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (XUKZU)

430 Bye MisHum!

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (sj3Ax)

431 *pointing at Bob's House of Flannel Shirts*

There goes an English major right there! And it's armed with florid prose and symbolism!

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (/Ho8c)

432 But to declare they do the same things as us is anthropomorphism of the worst kind.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (HDwDg)

Dude, I really thought that the sarc was obvious!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (fL/7/)

433 Howdy Hector. Merry Christmas.


And I hope ANYBODY hassling somebody while burying their dead catches a case of something that involves swelling and leaky discharge. I don't care if the family is burying a cop, thug, or a bystander.

That shit is out of bounds, and a great recipe for making matters worse.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (1vFHw)

434 I was hoping for a quiet day at the hospital today so I could pull some servers off the line for maintenance. Alas, bed census is 96%. The flu ravishes the elderly populace here.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (rwI+c)

435 What other animal has invented the internet.

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Did you just call Al Gore an animal?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (XUKZU)

436
eventually obama will hand over Guantanamo


Hadnt thought of this, but it makes perfect sense.
In some 'negotiation' TFG will hand over Guantanamo for some nebulous concession by the Cubans. Then KSM goes to NYC for his press conference with Billy DeBlasio

Posted by: McCool at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (g5Luu)

437 I guess the troll didn't read that all the new "job creation" ( see low paying semi-part time) is going to illegals?

The troll is an open-borders supposed 'libertarian.' His fun-house mirror reality sees it all as a great success.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:37 AM (MMC8r)

438 I posted this several days ago, on a thread that was at its end. but I thought I;d repost again because I thought some folks would find it uplifting. I did anyway. This is about Augustus Tolton-the son of slaves -who was the first documented AA priest. He served in IL (Chicago and Quincy) in the 1800s and unlike some people we know from Chicago he was a loving, humble servant of God and a person who brought real hope to the people he served. Some Roman Catholics are trying to move forward with his canonization but I think there needs to be some documented miracles. Perhaps Tolton might be a good possible Saint to ask to intercession of God for the change of heart of Al Sharpton, Eric Holder and Barack Obama and that racial tensions be lessened in the US.

http://tinyurl.com/kxq78er

And you don't have to be RC to appreciate this great Christian.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2014 10:37 AM (Dj3AB)

439 "I know Steamboat well."

Ah, well next time you're there, take 20 mile road south and you'll discover the glory that his Really Weird Hippie Land and National Park.

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:37 AM (MYCIw)

440 413. Borrow one of BCochran's daughters..

Hold up
I can have nck boxed up and shipped in 10 min

Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 10:37 AM (MaUQj)

441 Did you just call Al Gore an animal?
Posted by: The Great White Snark


Ol' Globull?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:39 AM (k3WXB)

442 Meant- Move forward with the investigation for possible canonization.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2014 10:39 AM (Dj3AB)

443 for the rest of us with experience in the word, the Chicoms saw some internal splitting in the 80s, but it wasn't fatal

what the older guys wanted to avoid was another Cultural Revolution style turmoil

so Deng and modernizers like Zhao Ziyang started opening doors to wider trade with the west and adopted some western business practices

but in Deng's words, it no longer mattered "whether the cat is white or black, as long as it catches mice"

what mattered was the success of the Communist Party

and it worked: when the old communist Hu died in 89, even the students in Tiananmen marched to show their support for him and his policies

try hard to grok that, troll

the only party in China is the CPC -- modifications are not transitions to something not-communist -- it's just communist "reform" necessary for communist survival

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:39 AM (odDZy)

444 343 DRUDGE REPORT @DRUDGE_REPORT 5m
How the U.S. helped Cuban spy impregnate wife... http://drudge.tw/13tsnfn

Obama had American fly the dude's sperm to Cuba. The dude we had locked for life as a Cuban spy. Two consecutive life terms for espionage. In jail since 1998.

But released by Obama 8 months after his wife got pregnant, thx to America flying his sperm to Cuba.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (ZPrif)



And if a republican had done this? The sperm for cigars meme would be all over Twitter by now.

Posted by: Havedash at December 23, 2014 10:40 AM (G1XMn)

445 Cuba Refuses To Extradite Cop-Killing Black Panther Assata Shakur



Im sure it has nothing to do with Obama being sympathetic to Shakurs cause.

AKA Joanne Chesimard who gunned down a NJ State Trooper

Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:40 AM (Zmw74)

446 @426
Proof to back up your claims.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (cnb+O)

447 Hector is worried. Stressed. Leave him alone. El Gaupo will be driven out of business by cheap Cuban hookers

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (zOTsN)

448 431 *pointing at Bob's House of Flannel Shirts*

There goes an English major right there! And it's armed with florid prose and symbolism!
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (/Ho8c)

Git 'im! Git 'im before he gets allegorical!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (2Ojst)

449
the only party in China is the CPC -- modifications are not transitions to something not-communist -- it's just communist "reform" necessary for communist survival


Precisely. The difference between 'fascist' and 'communist' is just who holds the keys to the storefronts.

Castro and the commies will just get propped up with the inflow of cash and continue on for a few more decades instead of collapsing in a couple of years, and the Cubans get to be killed and imprisoned for the privilege.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:42 AM (MMC8r)

450 No word from the GOP on whether they intend to do anything about him after he pleads out.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (kdS6q)


You probably won't hear much until after Congress convenes in January.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Trade Your Tale of Woe for Genuine Sympathy at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (hLRSq)

451 413 Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (659DL)


Borrow one of BCochran's daughters....I am sure that they are perfectly well behaved and will be a tremendously calming influence.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (Zu3d9)

Apparently you missed the part where he lovingly(?) refers to them as the Drunken Midgets.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (2Ojst)

452 what in the fucking fuck

Leahy has got to be the single slimiest member of the US Senate of the last 100 years

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (odDZy)

453 I just realized, only a couple more days till I can crack open the first bottle of last spring's dandelion wine. A little taste of spring in the winter.

I remember getting a contact buzz while bottling it up. Sure hope it's mellowed a bit over the past 7 months. Well, at least a LITTLE bit!

Posted by: Citizen X at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (7ObY1)

454 Why does hector hate the Cubans so much

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (zOTsN)

455 Tell the troll to do his own research or have his mommy do it for him


Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:44 AM (Zmw74)

456 @443
So you deny China is Fascist, despite the fact their system is Fascist by any definition?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:44 AM (cnb+O)

457 Only a couple weeks until I start brewing again, woot. That's good news.

Posted by: akula51 at December 23, 2014 10:44 AM (R5qgD)

458 Assata Shakur

Is that Ebonics for "ass shaker"?

Posted by: Citizen X at December 23, 2014 10:44 AM (7ObY1)

459 Proof to back up your claims.

http://tinyurl.com/q7jyksd

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (MMC8r)

460 Someone tell the putz that we don't, and never have, drawn much of a distinction between communist and fascists. They are just different sides of the same coin. So he can get off that hobby horse and move on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (Zmw74)

461 Assata Shakur
Is that Ebonics for "ass shaker"?



Stage name.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (k3WXB)

462 Is hector aware how the Cubans look down with disdain on the Central Americans?

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (zOTsN)

463 @455
I did my own research and your claims are BS. I get you are a xenophobe and hate immigrants, but you are not in reality.

How does it feel to be a loser on the Cuba issue?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (cnb+O)

464 445
Cuba Refuses To Extradite Cop-Killing Black Panther Assata Shakur


Columbia will have to look elsewhere for a new prof now.


Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (XzRw1)

465 @462
Cubans look down at white trash as well. What's your point?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:47 AM (cnb+O)

466
































Abbas: If UN proposal fails we will stop all joint operations with Israel

Growing up my kids used to stamp their feet and say similar things. We ignored them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:47 AM (Zmw74)

467 I came out in favor of normalizing with Cuba, but I get the counter-arguments. I really do.


So here's my question ... if Barry would have negotiated some reforms, either regarding human rights or property rights, would that change any minds ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 23, 2014 10:47 AM (1vFHw)

468 How does it feel to be a loser on the Cuba issue?

Ask an average Cuban.

Posted by: akula51 at December 23, 2014 10:47 AM (R5qgD)

469 Stage name.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM


could be worse...

Posted by: Buck Naked, '70's Pron Star at December 23, 2014 10:48 AM (2Ayux)

470
Hector, go wrap a Christmas gift for someone you care for. Go drop some money in the Salvation Army kettle. Go do something nice for someone. You are just being antagonistic here. Hardly the charitable Christmas spirit. You've made references in the past that lead me to believe you come from a faith background. Express that side of you, instead of what you are doing here today. Merry Christmas.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 23, 2014 10:48 AM (dFi94)

471 The Cubans think the Central Americans are no better than the Haitians.

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:49 AM (zOTsN)

472 Sometimes it's a mercy that no one pays attention to my comments.

Have a day, y'all. I'm about to.

Posted by: mindful webworker - nobody at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (THZvf)

473 Channing Tatum is there looking terribly concerned and says "Hi. I'm your husband"? I'm just going with that.

Trying to think of a Luvvie joke after prior Ginger Vs. MaryAnn comments and misreading that as Stockard Channing may have broken my brain this AM.

Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (DL2i+)

474 @471
So?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (cnb+O)

475 Calling people xenophobes who hate immigrants merely for disagreeing with your political POV belies the name, "Time for Peace" you call yourself.

Merry Christmas.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (Dj3AB)

476 Anthropomorphowhat? Isn't that like global warming?

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, former aggravated libertarian at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (cmBvC)

477 I just went outside to throw old cards in recycle bin. I saw kid next door that's home from Marine training in his dress blues. I told him he looked great & thanked him & said some of my friends also wanted me to thank him for volunteering.

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (sj3Ax)

478 lol

troll, you are confused and bedeviled by words

the reality is the the CPC still exists and exercises control to maintain its "socialism"

have there been changes to enable it to survive? yes. is every Chinese a true believer Commiebot? no. but this doesn't change the reality of the PRC

what you're perceiving is the fascistic core of all leftist/socialist systems

don't turn it into a head fake

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:51 AM (odDZy)

479 Will freed Guantanamo detainees resurface on battlefield?


Do bears shit in the woods?

Is the Pope Catholic ( and remember I hate Catholics according to the resident troll)?

Does the Military hate Fredo?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (Zmw74)

480 I hunger.

Posted by: The Barrel at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (DT3rQ)

481 The Castros are as swarthy as your basic Italian. They aren't gonna dig Hectors wife either


Hector you gonna go after the Castros for the racism and classism in Cuba?

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (zOTsN)

482 @478
Fascism is a socialist ideology. What separates it from Communism is the nationalist aspect.

You are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (cnb+O)

483 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (Zu3d9

I'm not rejecting that point, CBD.

But lots of animals have unique traits.
What I'm rejecting is the idea that you can assign our traits as "better" without either: a) question begging or b) appeal to an outside force.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:53 AM (HDwDg)

484 Oh. Dear. I think I drew some blood. Somebody is sensitive.

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:53 AM (zOTsN)

485 You are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (cnb+O)

Jesus, that's like the pot calling the kettle black?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:54 AM (Zmw74)

486 Because this blog is against giving the cops tanks

Two wrongs don't make a right, or a quarterback.

Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2014 10:54 AM (DL2i+)

487 448 431 *pointing at Bob's House of Flannel Shirts*

There goes an English major right there! And it's armed with florid prose and symbolism!
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (/Ho8c)

Git 'im! Git 'im before he gets allegorical!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (2Ojst)




*Escaped. Had a drink. It was a good drink. "I am having a good drink," I said. After a while I went out and walked back to the hotel in the rain.*

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 23, 2014 10:54 AM (vgIRn)

488 @ 481
Supporting diplomatic relation with a country is not an endorsement of their system.

Either way, you lost on this issue!

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:54 AM (cnb+O)

489 Hector doesn't even know what his argument is any more.

And we never did.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:55 AM (MMC8r)

490 Hi, I'm Global Warming! Nice to meet you! I'm sooooo hot right now...

Posted by: Anthropomorphic Global Warming at December 23, 2014 10:55 AM (2Ojst)

491 hector

no, you're just tilting at windmills

if you want to know what to call the Chinese system, ask the Chinese

here's what they tell us: the PRC, and they belong to the CPC

go argue some other issue

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (odDZy)

492 @484
The only blood you drew was your own. You lost on the Cuba issue and all you are doing is banging your head on the wall.

You lost, deal with it.

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (cnb+O)

493 Hector what about the racism and nativism of Cuba. You got work to do son

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (zOTsN)

494 I really like that Reluctant Culture War article. Thanks for posting that, BenK.

I prefer a very secular government, myself. (You don't have to be an atheist to feel that way.) And although I was never "for" gay marriage, it was primarily b/c I felt the alternatives (civil unions and the like) addressed the supposed "need" for SSM -- and if they didn't, contract law could be amended to do so. As a conservative, I gravitate toward tradition and I dislike re-defining words/concepts that have served us fine for hundreds of years. Prior to the Prop 8 nonsense in California (which happened when I was living there), I would consider myself pretty much neutral on gay marriage --- but leaning against it for the reasons stated.

I thought that the "socons" who were warning against the attack on religion were over-reacting. And I assumed that part of it was that we just fundamentally disagreed about inserting religion/Christianity into daily government.

Then Prop 8 happened and a wave of nonsensical court decisions across the country.

And now I find within my own party that it is becoming A Matter Not To Be Discussed to want to keep traditional marriage. Suddenly *I'm* supposed to be shamed into silence for opposing SSM.

The long and short of it is that I was wrong and the socons were right. The SSM movement *is* about attacking religious freedom. Even more basic than that, it is about trying to insert government-imposed cultural views into the family unit. I have little doubt that today's parents experience constant push-back from schools and governments when they try to teach their kids basic things about human sexuality, marriage, and the like.

This infuriates me, as I am sure it will lead to a backlash.

The other day when we were talking about leading with economic issues, I was reminded about the "truce! truce!" brigade on the Right. "Management-styled" Republicans - and also Libertarians - who want to silence any talk of social issues.

I reject that.

I do NOT want to lead with social issues, but I do not want to toss out "socons" either.

Ideally, we can find a solid conservative candidate who has traditional values and let him or her run on pocketbook and security issues, but trust that he's going to try to put some of the genies back in the bottle.

Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (9BRsg)

495 Oh. Dear. I think I drew some blood.
Somebody is sensitive.
Posted by: ThunderB


Sweep the leg!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (k3WXB)

496
Either way, you lost on this issue!


Nu-UH!



(Your turn.)

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (MMC8r)

497 @491
You deny then that the system in China is Fascist?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (cnb+O)

498 What I'm rejecting is the idea that you can assign
our traits as "better" without either: a) question begging or b) appeal
to an outside force.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:53 AM (HDwDg)

Did I say that?

I am simply suggesting that a unique trait -- a brain that supports free will and a soul -- is not out of the question.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:57 AM (Zu3d9)

499 Hector do you really think Cuna wants the help of you and your wife?

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:57 AM (zOTsN)

500 DO YOU DENY THE CHINESE SYSTEM IS CHINESE?!?

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (MMC8r)

501 sted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (fL/7/)

You have no idea what I've been forced to read the last few months.

There are people who believe that shit.

There are also people who think that humans (a linguistic group) can understand what a non-linguistic concept of death would look like. (How is that even possible?)

As such they feel confident saying things like (rough paraphrase here) "Wolves have no concept of death, we know this because 'death' is linguistic, and wolves aren't therefore they can't understand what 'death' is." Then going on and saying "wolves have a telos about roaming and shit."

That makes no sense. If survival instinct in a thing (and I think it is) then animals surely have some idea of "not surviving" even if it's a non-linguistic notion that we can't even begin to comprehend.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (HDwDg)

502
Dear Santa:

All I want for Christmas is a "report troll" button with someone paying attention on the other end.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (kdS6q)

503 Cuba, as it currently exists, would starve your wife and make her a whore

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (zOTsN)

504 oh, and even Cultural Revolution types were banging on in nationalist terms about the great Chinese nation

just like Soviet shills banged on about Mother Russia

same old, same old

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (odDZy)

505 Ideally, we can find a solid conservative candidate who has traditional values and let him or her run on pocketbook and security issues, but trust that he's going to try to put some of the genies back in the bottle.



Sounds good to this socon.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 23, 2014 10:59 AM (dFi94)

506 Just having the first coffee so may be still out of it but....

5.0% GDP growth? Hmmmm. If so, there's your peak for this cycle, I predict.

If I was a NYC cop...wait, that could never happen so never mind. I'd walk off that job now.

NoKo web outage...that's it? Prezzy Pinprick strikes again?

Why does Saudi Arabia sound like a petulant child? "YOU cut production, and YOU cut production, WE aren't cutting production."

OK, more coffee...

Posted by: Meremortal at December 23, 2014 10:59 AM (1Y+hH)

507
Dear Santa:

All I want for Christmas is a "report troll" button with someone paying attention on the other end.


Ho ho ho.

Ho ho ho ho ho!!!!


HO HO HO HO HO HO HO
HO HO HO HO HO HO HO
HO HO HO HO HO HO HO
HO HO HO HO HO HO HO
HO HO HO HO HO HO HO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Santa Ace at December 23, 2014 10:59 AM (MMC8r)

508 448 431 *pointing at Bob's House of Flannel Shirts*



There goes an English major right there! And it's armed with florid prose and symbolism!

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (/Ho8c)



Git 'im! Git 'im before he gets allegorical!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (2Ojst)




*Escaped. Had a drink. It was a good drink. "I am having a good
drink," I said. After a while I went out and walked back to the hotel in
the rain.*

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains


ZOMG! It's from the elite Hemmingway Division!

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:59 AM (/Ho8c)

509 @494 "Ideally, we can find a solid conservative candidate who has traditional values and let him or her run on pocketbook and security issues, but trust that he's going to try to put some of the genies back in the bottle.

Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (9BRsg)"

How will you create the perfect society socons want without government force?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:00 AM (cnb+O)

510 tfp, just read my comments, I'm bored with this

how about Leahy's flying sperm to that Cuban spy?

why stop there, why not fly jihadi sperm back to Afghanistan?

that'll show 'em

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:00 AM (odDZy)

511 How will you create the perfect society socons want without government force?

We'll have Fidel do it!

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 11:01 AM (MMC8r)

512 animals surely have some idea of "not surviving" even if it's a non-linguistic notion that we can't even begin to comprehend.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (HDwDg)

The existence of a survival instinct does not in any way suggest the existence of some concept of failure of that instinct.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:01 AM (Zu3d9)

513 @503
I don't live in Cuba, not my problem.

You lost, deal with it!

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:01 AM (cnb+O)

514 They've finally found the bastards responsible for global warming.

http://tinyurl.com/pyuzzdt

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 11:02 AM (8aCQe)

515 But I guess you're ok with that

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:02 AM (zOTsN)

516 How will you create the perfect society socons want without government force?



This is just nonsense. Utterly.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 23, 2014 11:02 AM (dFi94)

517 *pulls out can of Raid... sprays thread vigorously... sweeps up body of dead troll... feeds to pet iguana*

Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (9BRsg)

518 tsr ...


... I'd say anybody that's seen hogs slaughtered knows that at least those animals have a concept of death.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (1vFHw)

519 Merry Christmas all!

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (UhRGU)

520 They've finally found the bastards responsible for global warming.

http://tinyurl.com/pyuzzdt
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 11:02 AM (8aCQe)



*POINTS WILDLY*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (mf5HN)

521 grammie!

spot on as usual

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (odDZy)

522 Look who is supporting a racist nativist rape culture now


I guess it's Hector

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (zOTsN)

523 You lost, deal with it!

I know you are, but what am I?

Posted by: PeeWee Herman, eo-con Islamic as kisser anti-Latino black hating racist loser at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (MMC8r)

524 @515
You lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You lost!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (cnb+O)

525 ground squirrels! I knew it! those BASTARDS

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (odDZy)

526 NoKo web outage...that's it? Prezzy Pinprick strikes again?

OK, more coffee...
Posted by: Meremortal



That, or AOL went down.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (k3WXB)

527 I am simply suggesting that a unique trait -- a brain that supports free will and a soul -- is not out of the question.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:57 AM (Zu3d9)


:shrug:
you asked Why are you rejecting the possibility that evolution has a hand in our uniqueness?

I specifically noted in several places that I don't reject that particular point. I merely find it irrelevant.
God makes the rules, he's free to have given us souls via evolution or free to have raised us above animals after the fact as it were. Neither is outside the realm of possibility.

Except to note two things: 1) as I said, souls extend beyond the material, evolution does not. Not entirely sure how to jive those two (doesn't make it impossible just hard to grasp.

2) there's a tension between the idea of "Free will" and the evolutionary reliance on chemical interactions (which is somewhat determinalisitic.) That is to say: if we're only the products of evolution, then we're really just giant chemical processing machines, which seems to me at first glance to undercut any notion of free will. I can't entirely discount it though because I haven't really spent a ton of time thinking about it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (HDwDg)

528 #494

Good post, Y-Not. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (Dj3AB)

529 @522
Then you must love the Cuban regime then! Why are you mad about diplomatic relations with them then?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (cnb+O)

530 496
Either way, you lost on this issue!

Nu-UH!



(Your turn.)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (MMC8r)


Yuh-huh, nativist hard-liner neocon.

Posted by: Time for douching at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (bHnlE)

531

Trending at National Review:

In New York City, Responsibility Lies with the Killer Alone
By Charles C. W. Cooke - Hogwarts

Whatever one's view of the police writ large, to call for the execution of individual officers is uncivilized and it is dumb, and it deserves to invite strict condemnation on the grounds of taste alone. If anybody started talking about "dead cops" near me, I would of course leave rather quickly.

But, and so on.


Argue with someone advocating killing cops? Moi? No, I shant. I shall simply slink away like a -- well -- a slink.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (kdS6q)

532 How will you create the perfect society socons want without government force?

-
Easy. Stop subsidizing immorality.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (8aCQe)

533 nood "I'd Hit It" art up.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 11:06 AM (k3WXB)

534 Can I request an AOS avalanche for a good cause? A Roanoke TV station is having a contest for top 12 charities. Vote for Lost Fantasy Rescue. The gal saves a LOT of dogs and cats on a shoestring budget.

http://tinyurl.com/p5xdh46

Posted by: PaleRider at December 23, 2014 11:06 AM (7w/kf)

535 Sweep the leg!

FINISH HIM!!

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 11:06 AM (rwI+c)

536
You lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You lost!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (cnb+O)

Nu-UH!!!!!!!

Nu-UH!!!!!!!

Nu-UH!!!!!!!

Nu-UH!!!!!!!

Nu-UH!!!!!!!

TIMES INFINITY!!!!!!!

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 11:06 AM (MMC8r)

537 >>>>*POINTS WILDLY*

Like Steve Martin dancing to Funky King Tut

Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 11:07 AM (3ZtZW)

538 >>Sounds good to this socon.

Grammie

I hope you don't mind me resorting to the short-hand "socon" btw. I never know if that's considered offensive because it is so often used by assholes who are intending it as a slur.

I consider myself a "traditionalist" and sometimes find myself uncomfortable with some of the issues that others want to make part of the national dialogue [as an example: prayer in schools (a really small issue in many ways, but emblematic for me)].

Anyway, I am praying that this election cycle conservatives of many stripes can rally around a couple of strong candidates without damaging them in the primary, because I am not sure I could vote for the ones the GOPe seem to like.

Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 11:07 AM (9BRsg)

539 The Rubber-Glue technique. If do right, no defense.

Posted by: Kesuke Miyagi at December 23, 2014 11:07 AM (rwI+c)

540 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:01 AM (Zu3d9)

Perhaps.

But claiming some greater understanding of a wolves telos, while simultaneously claiming it can't understand death seems to be a bit of a contradiction, no?

(The arugment I'm bitching about is couched in the idea of a wolf caught in a trap and chewing off it's leg to escape. The idea that there is a concept of "Failure to survive" was baked into the whole argument. I find the entire argument to bullshit.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 11:08 AM (HDwDg)

541
*POINTS WILDLY*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD


I think I'm detecting a penchant for dramatic display.

That's especially cute in tiny people.

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 11:08 AM (/Ho8c)

542 @532
"Easy. Stop subsidizing immorality.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (8aCQe) "

What immorality are we subsidizing?

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:08 AM (cnb+O)

543 >>Easy. Stop subsidizing immorality.

Thread-winner

Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 11:08 AM (9BRsg)

544 Voted, Pale Rider.

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 11:09 AM (/Ho8c)

545 Hector supports rape in the Cuban regime and rape. Cause he really likes rape

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:09 AM (zOTsN)

546 You lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!



You lost!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (cnb+O)


Hahahahahaha!

Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 11:10 AM (/Mxso)

547 I'd be content to just stop subsidizing anyone with stolen wealth. Do, do not, or depend on the kindness of friends.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 11:10 AM (rwI+c)

548 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (HDwDg)

I made no distinction between evolution and the hand of God. I see nothing that would suggest that the existence of evolution (a fact...not a theory) supposes the non-existence of God.

How do you know that God didn't set the universe in motion, then simply sit back and watch until some unique evolution-driven combination of chemical interactions was the perfect backdrop for a soul.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:10 AM (Zu3d9)

549 SQUIRRELPHOBIA

AP: Reacting to the latest news that ground squirrels are major contributors to global warming, an EarthFirst spokesman described the ground squirrel leadership on "high alert" amid concerns about a possible backlash against offending rodents.

#IWillChaseNutsWithYou

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:10 AM (odDZy)

550 Cuba is screwed. They are about to be infected with American influence. In 5 years the whole place will the equivalent of a giant islandic border town.

They'll be importing mules for the girlie shows.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 23, 2014 11:11 AM (1Y+hH)

551 Hoden angst

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:11 AM (zOTsN)

552 Cause he really likes rape

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:09 AM (zOTsN)

Maybe in the abstract, but he seems rather impotent to me.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:12 AM (Zu3d9)

553 Cuba is not going to be the next Monaco.

It's going to tbe the next Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 23, 2014 11:14 AM (1Y+hH)

554 interesting take on fembots and the NYPD

http://tinyurl.com/m35t3nh

Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:14 AM (odDZy)

555 >>Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM

Thanks.

Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 11:14 AM (9BRsg)

556 CBD,

Good point. Maybe not so much PIV rape, but more like using slobber-soaked dildos made from Duplo blocks, or whatever childrens' toys the ward nurses accidentally leave in his cell after the nightly injections.

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 11:15 AM (/Ho8c)

557 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:10 AM (Zu3d9


I don't.
In fact I grant that likelihood.

There are certain tensions to a purely materialistic approach to evolution that I can't quite work out. Doesn't mean they can't. After all, I don't have the mind of God.

I'd note that we've drifted off topic. The original context was "how to the secular humanists find a basis for morality"

I noted that they have a weak basis for it because ultimately they have to make a value judgment that I think cannot be supported solely by facts.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 11:15 AM (HDwDg)

558 Hector is off rehydrating for more spittle.

Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 11:15 AM (MMC8r)

559 I should have given him a trigger warning

Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:21 AM (zOTsN)

560 So. Health care providers in the military system are being punished for whistleblowing regarding problems in that system.
Over 300 veterans died languishing while being denied care. Executives presiding over this got bonuses.
Obamacare is screwing over the middle class.
And pres boyfriend is airlifting spysperm to Cuba?

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 23, 2014 11:23 AM (Spluw)

561 why stop there, why not fly jihadi sperm back to Afghanistan?


What they do on the way down after being tossed off the ramp at 40000 feet is Allah's business.

Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2014 11:26 AM (DL2i+)

562 I'd note that we've drifted off topic.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 11:15 AM (HDwDg)

Shocking.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:26 AM (Zu3d9)

563 And pres boyfriend is airlifting spysperm to Cuba?

Is that like carrying coal to Newcastle?

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 11:27 AM (rwI+c)

564 They've finally found the bastards responsible for global warming.


...
*POINTS WILDLY*


AARRGHWHOOOO, WOOOF, WOOF

Posted by: Teh Neighbors Dawg at December 23, 2014 11:29 AM (DL2i+)

565 No open thread yet?

Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 11:32 AM (sj3Ax)

566 "Posted by: Time for peace"


You remind me of the awful poodle like lap dog I used to be unfortunate enough to live next door to. Whenever the idiotic owners let it out, it was "yap, yap, yap" all night.


Your posts are nothing more than pathetic yaps for attention. As I've posted before, nobody gives a flying flip what you think. By all means, please continue. While your repetitive yaps are boorish, I think it is a good thing to expose the typical liberal lunacy that you represent.


You know who really lost? Liberal talking points; see last election results. Deal with it. If we are so wrong, how come you are a minority in both houses of Congress now? That's got to hurt. Here's some exclamation points for you! Merry Christmas troll!!!

Posted by: Trollnip at December 23, 2014 11:47 AM (TaO1J)

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