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Tuesday Morning News Dump
- What Causes American Murders
- The Race Card's Steep Price
- NYPD: Tension Like It Was In The 70s
- The Campus-Rape Frenzy
- SCOTUS To Hear Obamacare Subsidy Challenge In March
- De Blasio Goes After The Media
- Cuomo Killed Lots Of Jobs By Pointlessly Banning Fracking
- A Year Later, The Exchanges Still Stink
- Anti-Gun Nuts Want To Get In On The Cop Killing Conversation
- No Words For This Kind Of Stupidity
- Confessions Of A Reluctant Culture Warrior
- Russia Starts Bailing Out Banks
- Yes, Of Course We Should Lift The Cuban Embargo
- OPEC Leader Vows To Not Cut Oil Production Even If Oil Drops To $20
- I Imagine This Person Won't Be Keeping Their Job For Very Long
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2014 08:50 AM (2Ayux)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2014 08:50 AM (2Ayux)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 08:51 AM (CzJOg)
http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/museum-of-astronomy-and-related-sciences
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 08:51 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 08:52 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 08:53 AM (MMC8r)
*scurries off to make All The Popcorn*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 08:53 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 08:53 AM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Center Right Hard Liner at December 23, 2014 08:54 AM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 08:55 AM (MQEz6)
Michael Grimm, a Republican who has represented New Yorkers in Congress since 2011, plans to enter a guilty plea Tuesday in federal court, admitting that he helped prepare a fraudulent tax return for a restaurant he partially owned.
His fate will be up to Federal Judge Pamela Chen, however, when she hears the terms of a plea agreement. Grimm was originally charged with 20 separate federal crimes and has been serving his constituents while under the terms of a $400,000 bond granted in the spring.
By pleading guilty to a single tax charge, he will avoid a trial that was scheduled to convene in January. Jurors would heave heard details of Grimm's alleged scheme to hide more than $1 million of his restaurant's sales and wages in order to dodge taxes between 2008 and 2010. He was also accused of hiring illegal immigrants to work for him.
Daily Mail
This would be the douche that some on the Right were up twinking because he thug-life'd a reporter. Corrupt lout. No word from the GOP on whether they intend to do anything about him after he pleads out.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: fairweatherbill bucking the wind at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (LFK6k)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (gfB4n)
Posted by: Pennsylvania at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 08:57 AM (sj3Ax)
What Causes American Murders
Racism, Patriarchy, and WalMart
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 08:53 AM (MMC8r)
Rush Limbaugh, burnt lasagna, and the vast right-wing conspiracy.
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 08:57 AM (MQEz6)
None of us really want to be involved in the culture wars, we mostly want to be left alone.
the left will have none of that.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 08:57 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Center Right Hard Liner at December 23, 2014 08:58 AM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: fluffy at December 23, 2014 08:59 AM (Ua6T/)
And:
Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.
Daily Mail
Ok, time for a mercy killing. At least he'll be at peace.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 09:00 AM (kdS6q)
Al Sharpton, Barack Obama, Eric Holder were all standing in front of microphones before the NY Police officer double murder. So it must be the microphones, right? Or maybe it's some other commonality... can't quite place it.
Posted by: Tales of a Junktown Jerky Vendor at December 23, 2014 09:01 AM (HKvMD)
He looked like a guilty school boy trying to talk the principal out of punishing him. He looked cornered, clueless, and hapless.
Buffoon.
Posted by: http://tinyurl.com/1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:01 AM (CzJOg)
The race card may have a "steep price" in terms of violence and societal divisiveness but, on the bright side, it keeps the Af-Ams voting monolithically Democrat at rates that would make Kim Jon-un blush if he were to get them in North Korea.
Omelettes. Eggs.
Posted by: Ed at December 23, 2014 09:02 AM (Xv7f/)
And:
Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.
Daily Mail
Ok, time for a mercy killing. At least he'll be at peace.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 09:00 AM (kdS6q)
Put him on Gilligan's Island and conk him with a coconut.
He'll snap right out of it.
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:02 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:02 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:03 AM (3ZtZW)
Warm, sandy beach and Ginger in a coconut cream pie bikini.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:04 AM (zF6Iw)
http://tinyurl.com/ksvpnw7
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:04 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:05 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:05 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:05 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:06 AM (TX2fN)
Oh. Good.
We can roast S'mores over the conflagration. Won't that be fun?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:06 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 09:06 AM (zOTsN)
Strong article. Summary: the Left will not allow you to sit out the culture wars.
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2014 09:06 AM (FcR7P)
I've been saying that for over 40 years MPPP. Wouldn't it be lovely?
Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (JdEZJ)
Definition: Worthy of reverence; entitled to respect mingled with fear and affection.
It seems all either of them want from the title is the "fear" aspect.
Posted by: Havedash at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (G1XMn)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (pb82p)
The Exchanges will always stink. Like a public swimming pool run by the IRS using NAMBLA members for its janitorial staff.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (kff5f)
In another coupla years the cobs will find another site to post from. No worries
Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (3ZtZW)
Do I get +1 to barter for reading your posts?
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (/Mxso)
The culture wars are used by the left to make the right look bad. The hardliners on the right have been getting their asses handed to them in the culture wars the last 20 years.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (cnb+O)
The majority of Americans support relations with Cuba. What do you dead end hardliners have to say about that?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:04 AM (cnb+O)
I'm willing to do my part: http://tinyurl.com/oekbo45
Posted by: http://tinyurl.com/1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (CzJOg)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (3jmxp)
Democrats like DeBlasio whining about the media formenting divisiveness is too hypocritically ironic for words. (Or ironically hypocritical, whatever.)
Ya dance with the one whut brung ya.
Posted by: Mitt, a murderer on the loose at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (Xv7f/)
You got an address?
Posted by: H. Reid at December 23, 2014 09:09 AM (pb82p)
Eh, the chaos will at least have low gas prices.
Frankly I don't know who to support in this mess, so I'm going to support my pocket book, which says "yay! Low oil!"
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:09 AM (HDwDg)
The majority of "Americans" supported putting an ambulatory trash puddle in the White House, too, you gibbering, addle-minded homunculus. If majority ruled, you'd long since have been banned from the internet, only to befoul certain bestiality webpages with your snuffling, sunken-chested puffing.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:09 AM (zF6Iw)
Definition: Worthy of reverence; entitled to respect mingled with fear and affection.
It seems all either of them want from the title is the "fear" aspect.
Posted by: Havedash at December 23, 2014 09:07 AM (G1XMn)
As long as those two clownfuckers get on TV and are treated with respect this country has no hope.
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: freaked at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (XzRw1)
Posted by: @JohnTant at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (PFy0L)
Do you really want 'the majority of Americans' to matter? No, that would be a disaster to your cause.
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2014 09:10 AM (FcR7P)
The quality snark that keeps me coming back to the hive of scum and villainy.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:11 AM (rwI+c)
Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.
Well, at least we know what causes McConaughey's Syndrome.
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:12 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:12 AM (Zmw74)
The only outlet that has mentioned this is Insty.
So, I guess being a Muslim, had nothing to do with him killing the cops. It was work place violence or something.
Are there ANY reporters in the country?
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (0FSuD)
Yet once again, the hardline right is isolated on an issue. If the majority of people oppose your position, what will your bitching accomplish?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (cnb+O)
Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.
Well, at least we know what causes McConaughey's Syndrome.
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:12 AM (MMC8r)
Well, that's one proven cause.
Playing the drums while naked is also suspected.
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (rwI+c)
Are there ANY reporters in the country?
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (0FSuD)
I actually don't think it has much to do with this crime. He did it because he was egged on by the "protesters", not for Allah.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (/Mxso)
@48
Yet once again, the hardline right is isolated on an issue. If the
majority of people oppose your position, what will your bitching
accomplish? Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (cnb+O)
Don't be so hasty there, junior. It got Obamacare passed didn't it?
Posted by: http://tinyurl.com/1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (CzJOg)
Why do you hardliners like being societal outcasts? How will relations with Cuba, effect you?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (rwI+c)
True. I do have problems with the article, but that is the main take away and it's a good one.
I just wish that Freedom Loving atheists would stop for a minute and realize that there *is* no morality outside "traditional religious morality" (by which they normally mean: Judeo-Christian, but I'll be nice and throw in Buddhism and a few others as well).
Unless there is a God (or gods) who approve of one set of behaviors and disapprove of another, there is no reason to be "moral" except for some fuzzy commitment to "getting along with people" or "doing what's best for everyone." But since those are, themselves, moral behaviors and not moral philosophy, that's really not more than saying "People should be moral."
That's great, and all, but since there's no specific philosophy attached to it, what, then is "moral?"
Moral behavior is moral precisely because it is grounded in a philosophy which includes a belief in something not just greater than "ourselves" but greater than mankind taken together, and even greater than all of nature. Only with such a "something" that hates one set of behaviors and loves another does the word "moral" make any sense.
...
...
...
And now I'll stop preaching.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (kff5f)
Hector: "The majority of unbathed 400lbers in this house support pie. Why won't you cook me a pie, you evil hardliner?!"
Oven: ...
Hector: "Racist!"
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (MbqmP)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Havedash at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (G1XMn)
The hardline right does have the power, the left does. The comparison is not apt here.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:12 AM (Zmw74)
Dammit! You jinxed us.
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
Note to self...don't piss off MP4.
Posted by: fairweatherbill bucking the wind at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (LFK6k)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:08 AM (3jmxp)
I wasn't expecting much from the movie, but I liked it. The middle does a good job of showing how the two cops are really close buddies, family stuff, etc.
Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (659DL)
The only outlet that has mentioned this is Insty.
So, I guess being a Muslim, had nothing to do with him killing the cops. It was work place violence or something.
Are there ANY reporters in the country?
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (0FSuD)
From what I can gather he and his family are phony baloney NOI muslims.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (Zmw74)
This one has.
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (5buP8)
LBWCMG: "Can you make me a peanut butter sandwich for lunch? The school lunch isn't very filling."
Mom, fingering ankle bracelet: "Sorry, Son."
Mom: "The school lunch is nutritionally complete."
** Looks LBWCMG in the eye **
Mom: "The school knows best."
Posted by: fluffy at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: MTF at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (LISuA)
The majority oppose amnesty, but support legalization of illegals after certain conditions are met. Even a majority of Republicans support this. A majority also oppose the racist arguments of the hardline right on immigration.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:16 AM (cnb+O)
Rory Curtis, 25, from Redditch, suffered a serious brain injury and woke from a six-day coma speaking to nurses in fluent French. He was also convinced he was Matthew McConaughey.
Daily Mail
Ok, time for a mercy killing. At least he'll be at peace.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 09:00 AM (kdS6q)
This reminds me of the central flaw of The Vow. As many women have noted, if I wake up after an accident and Channing Tatum is there looking terribly concerned and says "Hi. I'm your husband"? I'm just going with that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (CzJOg)
Imagine the reaction of liberals and their media if a Republican President were to ever give the right wing equivalent of Sharpton the same degree of access and respect the Democrats give him.
I can't even think who the right wing equivalent of Sharpton might be. Cliven Bundy?
Video: http://tinyurl.com/nrjv69d
Posted by: Roscoe at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (Xv7f/)
If not, we get to watch it all burn while smoking Cuban cigars, drinking Cuban rum, and banging Cuban hotties.
Totally win-win.
Imagine the trolls exploding when when they see the first Cuban WalMart.
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Time four pease at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (MbqmP)
BTW, on Amazon, right now you can buy 100 'vintage' bottle caps for just 14 pre-Nuclear Holocaust dollars. What a bargain!
Posted by: Tales of a Junktown Jerky Vendor at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (HKvMD)
If you told me that the Child-Brained Idiot who posted the other day that rhetoric does not cause violence also wrote that garbage piece on Cuba at the Federalist, I'd believe you.
The writing style and intellectual void in the text is remarkably similar to young master Malor's.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (TX2fN)
If you told me that the Child-Brained Idiot who posted the other day that rhetoric does not cause violence also wrote that garbage piece on Cuba at the Federalist, I'd believe you.
The writing style and intellectual void in the text is remarkably similar to young master Malor's.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (TX2fN)
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 09:15 AM (fWAjv)
yeah sorry, my bad
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (Zmw74)
Posted by: Fritz at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (dVmLD)
Posted by: tmitsss at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (1nj96)
Are there ANY reporters in the country?
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:13 AM (0FSuD)
All the recent attacks by muslims have been categorized as 'mentally ill.'
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (fWAjv)
1) What evidence is there that he was "crazy?"
B) Since I'm pretty sure he wasn't yelling "Allah snackbar!" while killing the cops, I think (in this particular case) his Mohommedism is secondary (though worth mention, at least)
III) Did I mention that his mom disputes the "crazy" allegation? She says (sorry, no link, heard it on the news this morning) that he was never diagnosed with any mental illness.
iv) Which then suggests "evil" and not "crazy" is the explanation.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (kff5f)
*OK, I know it's not just progressives who smoke, so what's a better idea?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (ABcz/)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:19 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: H. Reid at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (pb82p)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (cnb+O)
Why are the morning threads always so full of troll shit?
Their mom wakes them up so she can vacuum and fumigate the basement
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (CzJOg)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (LFK6k)
Sorry, don't agree.
Humans invented morals and the idea that they must be founded on something beyond us.
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (MYCIw)
Because we continue to engage them.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (/Mxso)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:20 AM (pb82p)
The majority oppose amnesty, but support legalization of illegals after certain conditions are met. Even a majority of Republicans support this. A majority also oppose the racist arguments of the hardline right on immigration.
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I call crap on that. What question are they being asked?
Ask them this: "Do you agree that people who break the law in entering the U.S. should have their crimes excused?
Even 80 percent of the Dem base would answer "no" to that.
Posted by: Roscoe at December 23, 2014 09:21 AM (Xv7f/)
Two 9-1-1 dispatchers. Reportedly said, "They deserved it". Should give the cops warm fuzzies knowing that they have their backs.
You know, the ones taking the original call and relaying ALL of the pertinent info. Like a possible ambush.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 09:21 AM (k3WXB)
Posted by: Time for Hot Pockets at December 23, 2014 09:22 AM (roESk)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 09:22 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:22 AM (LFK6k)
response of the German Left? the freedom-loving carolers are "Nazi's in pin-stripes"
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:22 AM (odDZy)
the cops warm fuzzies knowing that they have their backs.
"
I'm going to make a wild guess here......
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:23 AM (pb82p)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:23 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Tales of a Junktown Jerky Vendor at December 23, 2014 09:18 AM (HKvMD)
We also get the "Gun Nut" perk.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (/Mxso)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (odDZy)
Posted by: keena at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (RiTnx)
Amazon would do business in Cuba, for starters.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (TX2fN)
Amazon would do business in Cuba, for starters.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (TX2fN)
Amazon would do business in Cuba, for starters.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (TX2fN)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (LFK6k)
What aggravates me the most is this meme that our embargo has held Cuba back when in fact that they have open relationship with Europe, China, South America , Mexico, Russia and Canada.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (3jmxp)
I see travel but not business. Like with vietnam.
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 09:24 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:25 AM (pb82p)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:25 AM (MYCIw)
If true, I don't understand how they were allowed to leave the room under their own power.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:25 AM (zF6Iw)
show "solidarity"
shore up the base
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:25 AM (odDZy)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (MQEz6)
Serious stuff from Down Here...
40 years ago on Christmas Eve, Cyclone Tracy hit Darwin in the Northern Territory - 66 people died
Most of the place was evacuated, and people were sent to all different places, including Singapore
Thank you to the US Air Force, who came to help out...
http://goo.gl/N8sIz7
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (b/1aA)
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I'm sure our associates in Tourism and Leisure activities could be enticed.
Posted by: Hyman Roth at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: akula51 at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (R5qgD)
Which then immediately undermines the very idea of morals. Because moral behavior is not defined as "behavior of which the ruling class approves," or calling the Nazis "evil" would be nonsensical. It can't even be "behavior which benefits the majority" because we believe that "the majority" can go hang- I have my Rights.
So how, then, would "moral behavior" be defined? And why would the cave man in the next valley over give a rip about your idea of "morals" when he can kill you, rape your women, and take your stuff?
Either morals ARE and are unchanging, or they are simply suggestions which it does not matter, in the long run, if I obey.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:26 AM (kff5f)
Somebody is worried.
Posted by: small town girl at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (xkaSw)
Posted by: maddogg at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (xWW96)
If he could get away with it, he'd put busts of Alinsky and Marx in the Oval Office
I don't wish ill on anyone, but I'll breathe a sigh of relief when this fucker reaches room temp
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (odDZy)
Okay, that's a horrible story, and I'm sorry for the victims and their families.
But that phrase made me smile.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (kff5f)
Because this blog is against giving the cops tanks
And their dogs
Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (MaUQj)
In fairness ...
I believe that's a feature, not a bug. It's a religion that encourages hate and violence, not introspection and love.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:14 AM (/Mxso)
And we know this how?
I agree they appear to be wanta be Muslims. Insty's link yesterday said the thug was mugging a pan handler until he found out he was a "Muslim" and they went to a bar and had a beer together.
Muslims don't drink alcohol.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (0FSuD)
not to mention open the floodgates for Cuba to export her socialist dregs to the American shores..
there is absolutley no upside for the USA in obama's deal with Cuba, and if anyone tells you different you can tell them I said Fuck You.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (TX2fN)
You hardliners are isolating yourselves from the America public.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: maddogg at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (xWW96)
You misspelled "death cult."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (MaUQj)
Morals are what we say they are.
We invented them.
We also invented the lie that we did not invent them.
We had to do that in order to make them work.
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 23, 2014 09:23 AM (pb82p)
I'll take fat Black women for a $1000, Alex.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (0FSuD)
How will relations with Cuba, change your life?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (cnb+O)
why? because the Koran validates the nut-cases, and because of that, the nut-cases gleefully get and use the guns
all the sweet little introspective mystic Sufi's stand no chance against Islamic Mafia types
that is why Islam is such a problem
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:31 AM (odDZy)
That's horrible, very high casualties. It must have rolled in out of nowhere.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:31 AM (/Mxso)
So remember kiddies, when you hear the word "hardliners" scream at the top of your lungs.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:31 AM (kff5f)
If only!
Oh please don't throw me in the briar patch Mr. Peace.
Posted by: Hardliner center right leftist at December 23, 2014 09:32 AM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:32 AM (odDZy)
Re: Morals - Dennis Preager discusses this a lot - probably a video on it somewhere - but he asks a simple question: if your morals are not based on the ten commandments/bible, then what are they based on? What is your source?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (659DL)
Posted by: maddogg at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM (LFK6k)
@139
How will relations with Cuba, change your life?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (cnb+O)
Increased demand will cause the price of hookers to sky rocket.
No more $20 BJ's.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (0FSuD)
I agree they appear to be
wanta be Muslims. Insty's link yesterday said the thug was mugging a pan
handler until he found out he was a "Muslim" and they went to a bar and
had a beer together.
Muslims don't drink alcohol.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:29 AM (0FSuD)
I can't say we know it, only that it doesn't appear to have been a driving factor in the murders. What he posted on tumbler before he committed the crime would probably give us a better idea. From what I understand it was full on anti cop, not jihadist screed.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (/Mxso)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (odDZy)
Hector: "The majority of unbathed 400lbers in this house support pie. Why won't you cook me a pie, you evil hardliner?!"
Oven: ...
Hector: "Racist!"
--
Well done, sir. Well done.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (tsGZY)
Cubans are dfferent today. They are thoroughly socialistic. They know no better. And they hate the USA.
obama knows this, that's why he made the deal -- obama doesnt want to spread freedom to Cuba, he wants to infect the USA with anti-American anti-capitalism.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:35 AM (TX2fN)
Posted by: Hardliner Buttslab at December 23, 2014 09:35 AM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:35 AM (3jmxp)
Isn't that answer what your parents teach you
Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:35 AM (MaUQj)
The "crazy" meme comes from the apparent attempted suicide right before he shot his ex.
Of course I've known a few people who have "attempted" suicide as a method of getting attention with no intent of actually offing themselves. So it is not, by default, crazy.
As for the actual suicide in this case, still not necessarily crazy. He knew he was screwed. He sought to end it "on his own terms."
So merely saying "suicidal=crazy" is not true for how we typically define "crazy"
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:28 AM (MaUQj)
No dogs!
And you know why.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (Zu3d9)
Coming to AOSHQ and accusing us of being hardliners is like trying to use "funny" in shaming Richard Pryor.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (659DL)
"It is not a contradiction to be a Muslim and a murderer, even a mass
murderer. That is one reason why criminals "convert" to Islam in prison.
They don't convert at all; they similarly remain the angry
judgmental vicious beings they always have been. They simply add 'religious' diatribes to their personal invective. Islam does not
inspire a crisis of conscience, just inspirations to outrage."
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:36 AM (LFK6k)
And if you really want a tank, Bannion has an M1A1 in his garage, with a full load of bee-hive rounds.
But he won't share.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (Zu3d9)
But who is "we?" And why should I care what "you" say about morals?
Morals are not behavior. Behavior can be moral, but morals are ideas- principles. If we "invented them" then they don't actually exist- at least, not to the point you could call them "moral."
Sure, the government could force its collective view of moral behavior on people, but it would have no justification for doing so.
And before you say that you're okay with that, think about what it actually means. Freedom of speech? Made up, because it relies on a MORAL judgement. Therefore government can take it away whenever the majority decides. Freedom of association? Also relies on a moral judgement, so again can be taken away by the government whenever the majority decides.
If morals are made up, then they are invalid- since they would then be self defeating ("everyone" agrees that lying is immoral).
For a case study- look at Islam. Islam is an evil death cult that really does believe in situational (or "made up") morality. That's how the whole world would look if you were correct.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (kff5f)
The payback that is going to happen between the Cubanos who stayed and those who left is going to be epic made even worse for being seasoned well with money, racism, rum and machismo.
The Miami Cubanos are going to demand the return of the los abuelos' farms and ocean front property. The Habana Cubanos are going to respond to that ...poorly.
Any doubt which side Comrade Obama is going to support?
Posted by: Hyman Roth at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (Xv7f/)
How is your wife feeling?
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (sj3Ax)
How will your tax money be used to prop up Cuba?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (cnb+O)
I'd say it's just given them the finances to use against us.
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Chinese Peasant at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (8wPsx)
This is not going to turn out well.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (t//F+)
Posted by: Tales of a Hardliner Junktown Jerky Vendor at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (HKvMD)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:33 AM
ex,act,ly,
golf clap
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (2Ayux)
appear to have been a driving factor in the murders. What he posted on
tumbler before he committed the crime would probably give us a better
idea. From what I understand it was full on anti cop, not jihadist
screed.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:34 AM (/Mxso)
I totally agree, BUT his going to a radical mosque is not news?
http://tinyurl.com/mbuamdq
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (0FSuD)
In fact, there's less hard evidence for any mental illness than there is for 'radicalization', at least to the extent that Brinsley appears to have posted on his Facebook page the Koranic soundbite about 'striking fear into the enemies of Allah'. Nevertheless, the preferred explanation is that Brinsley was mentally ill, just like the guy who beheaded a coworker in Oklahoma was mentally ill, and the Sydney bloke who took those hostages at the coffee shop was mentally ill, and the son of the Canadian Refugee Board honcho who killed a soldier at the Canadian War Memorial was mentally ill. They were also all Muslim. Oh, and the fellow in France who ran down 11 people with his car while shouting 'Allahu Akbar!' only yesterday has already been pronounced mentally ill. By sheer coincidence, he was Muslim, too.
Mark Steyn
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (2Ojst)
There was also the Bubba Hardliner side of the family, but we don't like to talk about them much.
Posted by: R W Hardliner at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (JdEZJ)
How will diplomatic relations with Cuba change your life?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:39 AM (TX2fN)
isn't it a Leninist dictatorship
this is what Obama's Government is "engaging"
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (odDZy)
Posted by: mindful webworker at large at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (Gjw1J)
Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (MaUQj)
Average Cuban salaries after The Great USA/Cuba Relations Pact of 2014: $17 a month.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (tsGZY)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (kff5f)
China is Fascist, not Communist.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:40 AM (ABcz/)
I think she's still having nightmares about the exam she got to check for dilation
.
I think she's ready to be not pregnant anymore (or as she puts it "to meet our little girl.") However, they offered her a procedure that "Sometimes" starts labor, but since it was apparently more painful than the exam she opted to wait. (I didn't object, because, as I noted, my mom is a Christmas birthday, and I don't want to do anything that increases the odds of another family member complaining about that.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:41 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:41 AM (MMC8r)
"China is Fascist, not Communist."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:41 AM (kff5f)
A few of my European rellies have regular holidays in Cuba and they love it
Fly there, straight to the resort, stay with same language speaking people for 7 days, never venture out of the resort and the only Cubans they see are resort staff
They don't care about the politics, they love the very cheap holiday plus the suntan...
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (b/1aA)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (odDZy)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014
You were short some punctuation there, Allen
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (2Ayux)
But he won't share.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (Zu3d9)
*narrows eyes*
Heads up, Horde. A position in the alextopia upper legions may soon arise.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (3jmxp)
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (tsGZY)
The morals we invented have to be presented as things we did not invent.
Morals come from us but they won't work for most people unless they are convinced they came from something other than us.
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (LFK6k)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (MMC8r)
their beaches suck and they don't smoke weed
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:42 AM (odDZy)
Besides, it's hard to have diplomatic relations with a radioactive pile.
Wait... that only what I *wish* would happen to the NORKs.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Chairman Mao at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (8wPsx)
It seems that his religion is the match that released the powder keg of crazy.
I mean, you think those bloodthirsty ISIS guys mutilating infidels in Iraq are sane?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:43 AM (ABcz/)
The baby will come when she's ready. I hope for your sake it's not on Christmas.
She's just anxious?
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:44 AM (sj3Ax)
no offense to your family, but that kind of free-loading is repulsive
it only benefits the Leninist regime
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:44 AM (odDZy)
many women have noted, if I wake up after an accident and Channing Tatum
is there looking terribly concerned and says "Hi. I'm your husband"?
I'm just going with that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 09:17 AM (mf5HN)
Lol. This already made my day.
Posted by: Viv Savage at December 23, 2014 09:44 AM (HRo7B)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:37 AM (cnb+O)
I rest easy at night, knowing that my betters will only use the voluntary tax donations we make to our beneficent government for a good purpose in helping a Castro run Cuba assume its rightful place in the New World Order!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (fL/7/)
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (sj3Ax)
Don't you mean upper shelf?
Oh wait.......
Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (MaUQj)
143 NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank*
Hi there and it is a special place.. andI must post some headlines from the Northern Territory News - some of them are priceless
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (b/1aA)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (bHnlE)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: MTF at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (LISuA)
You're arguing in a circle here, and it's a) really frustrating and b) nonsensical.
So a different way, then: if morals "come from us" please explain how and from whence they came? And why the vast majority of the human race would have such incredibly compatible views of morality?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (bHnlE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (Zmw74)
eventually obama will hand over Guantanamo
obama has a lot still to do in the next 2 years -- things, bad things, will be occuring very rapidly from now on
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (TX2fN)
I just wish it hadn't taken such a tragedy...
Posted by: Citizen X at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (MMC8r)
And perfectly sane but violent people will gravitate to Islam because:
IT IS VIOLENT!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:45 AM (2Ojst)
Or at least sanity.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (kff5f)
What if he were a "community organizer"? Who was he talking to on the phone before he did it?
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (zOTsN)
Is it like your version of Florida?
Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (3ZtZW)
Meanwhile over at Reason.com, "Secondary Metabolites! Nom nom!":
Don't Try to Blame "Rhetoric" for the Deaths of Officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos
Jesse Walker is Reason's Books Editor and author of The United States of Paranoia.
This excuse is now officially a trend. Next step, #hashtag!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (kdS6q)
http://tinyurl.com/mbuamdq
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:38 AM (0FSuD)
I think it's news. The media however only reports on this type of peripheral information if it supports their agenda. Here it doesn't, which I guess was your point.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:47 AM (/Mxso)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:48 AM (Zmw74)
Heads up, Horde. A position in the alextopia upper legions may soon arise.
/materializes next to AtC with gallon of spiked eggnog
How you doin'?...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 23, 2014 09:48 AM (DT3rQ)
is there looking terribly concerned and says "Hi. I'm your husband"?
I'm just going with that.
Like a screen door in a hurricane!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:48 AM (ABcz/)
We're both anxious.
She's also tired of the back aches, breathing problems, etc. etc. etc.
Given that the procedure in question ("stripping the membranes") only has a *chance* of starting labor, I doubt we'll take the doc up on the offer even if nothing happens by the next appointment (which would still be 4 days before her due date.)
Although, the chance to score a tax break this year is pretty tempting
.Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Zombie George Burns at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (HKvMD)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (MYCIw)
*FedExs piece of dark chocolate mint cheesecake with mini york peppermint patties*
My wife made this for me, but you can have some.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (kff5f)
148 Heralder
The cyclone was heading elsewhere, then suddenly veered in towards Darwin
Nothing like that had happened before - of course we have had plenty of cyclones up north but the whole region is sparsely populated
So this cyclone hits the major city in the north of OZ...
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (b/1aA)
Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (3ZtZW)
De Blasio seems to forgotten hes dealing with media whore.
Weasel Zippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:50 AM (Zmw74)
No!
Those make good firewood. Also good furniture.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:50 AM (kff5f)
It's pretty hard to out retard yourself like the troll has.
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (sj3Ax)
Rason exists only to scream at others for overreacting.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (TX2fN)
Is he suggesting an alternative to a theistic origin?
Because then I would argue that rights are a natural condition of humanity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (Zu3d9)
No!
Those make good firewood. Also good furniture.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:50 AM (kff5f)
Cedar closets.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (2Ojst)
Wait, are they COMMUNIST or FASCIST?
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: maddogg at December 23, 2014 09:51 AM (xWW96)
Most humanists I know insist that humans are self-perfectible and that morals come from somewhere in there.
Ask them though where our logic comes from that makes us better than mere animals and they get stuck. Horribly Horribly stuck.
Or that fall back to a sort of Nietzsche/Singer type idea that we're really not better. (In which case we have no morals. Game, set, checkmate.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (HDwDg)
Part of me wants to see a protest at one of the funerals.
As I mentioned yesterday, I think the cops would go ballistic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (OCcU9)
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (b/1aA)
That's terrible. My thoughts are with you all on this anniversary.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (/Mxso)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (MMC8r)
according to the trees, the earth has been cooling for 2,000 years:
http://tinyurl.com/q5w2rph
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (odDZy)
Yeah, and how cynical was that request? "Please stop...until after the funerals. Then feel free to start up again."
What a tool de Blasio for not saying enough is enough, just end the protest full stop before it gets worse. It's no longer a protest when there's a body count.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (ABcz/)
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (b/1aA)
the cops warm fuzzies knowing that they have their backs.
You know, the ones taking the original call and relaying ALL of the pertinent info. Like a possible ambush.
More accurate.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (XzRw1)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (MMC8r)
I have always been puzzled by that logic. Is it really irrational to assume that even in the absence of a divine origin we are not different than the animals?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (Zu3d9)
As I mentioned yesterday, I think the cops would go ballistic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)
yeah but deep down the protesters know that and ultimately they are gutless bastards, so I doubt they would do that. But we will see
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:54 AM (Zmw74)
Because then I would argue that rights are a natural condition of humanity.
Posted by:CBD
He seems to be making a humanist argument (we "made them up"). And Rights *are* a natural condition of humanity, but only because morals are as well.
Or that fall back to a sort of Nietzsche/Singer type idea that we're really not better. (In which case we have no morals. Game, set, checkmate.)
Posted by: tsrblke
Shhhhh!
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:54 AM (kff5f)
She about rolled off the table during the check. I thought she was going to pass out honestly.
I dunno if her doctor thought she knew what was coming, didn't want to warn her for fear she'd tense up or just spaced on that.
When he said "the stripping will hurt worse than that" she said "yeah...I'll pass."
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:54 AM (HDwDg)
The Communists in China have morphed into Fascism. They are state capitalists with a national nationalist ideology. That's Fascism.
Stop being ignorant and realize things change.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:54 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 09:55 AM (MMC8r)
Context is everything.
To most liberals living in Western "Civilization", the violent acts of a radical muslim are obviously those of someone that is mentally ill. Since religion is a meaningless concept to these liberals, the muslim connection has no bearing on the whacko diagnosis.
To muslims living in a muslim "civilization", the violent acts of a radical muslim are obviously those of someone that is a true defender of the faith and thus cannot be the result of mental illness.
To the few sane people living in the tattered mess that once was Western Civilization, and still able to connect the dots in spite of years of government and media propaganda, it is clear that the violent acts of a radical muslim are obviously those of someone that is mentally ill, with a direct causal connection to islam, a religion that fosters exactly this kind of aberrant behavior.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 09:55 AM (fL/7/)
Posted by: John Boehner at December 23, 2014 09:55 AM (XzRw1)
Actually... yes. Because the primary thing that sets us apart from the animals is Reason. But Reason cannot logically arise from non-reason.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (kff5f)
I am betting Jay-Z or Russell Simmons. Maybe Danny Glover? Maybe Ed Asner?
And who will Cuba send to U.S. as an ambassador?
I am betting Elian Gonzalez.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (iAUf+)
As I mentioned yesterday, I think the cops would go ballistic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)
I think they would want to, but their innate respect for the solemnity of the occasion would keep them in line.
Which is a pity, because I'd love to see Sharpton get a hickory shampoo from a mounted NY cop.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (zF6Iw)
Did you read story under that one at WZ? Ed Shultz is trying to compare SCOAMT & Cuba to Reagan & "tear down this wall."
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (nqBYe)
Absolutely!
I think, sense have made here you, and applaud, not when bravery out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (Zu3d9)
You lose again!
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (cnb+O)
about another communist regime
Posted by: Nevergiveup
About D.C.?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (k3WXB)
Al Sharpton, Communist Groups Say They Wont Abide By De Blasios Call For Protest Moratorium Until After Slain Cops Funerals
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 09:50 AM (Zmw74)
I happened to find myself in Union Square last night (much to my chagrin) and several groups of slack-jawed lackwits were roaming through the Christmas market singing protest "songs", using phrases like "I can't breathe".
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (/Mxso)
Posted by: ---
Hector owns the Berkeley Pit of stupid. http://tinyurl.com/k99n7x2
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (LFK6k)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (kff5f)
That's very Aquinasian. Aquinian. You sound like Aquinas.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 09:57 AM (2Ojst)
If true, I don't understand how they were allowed to leave the room under their own power
---------------
Everyone involved knows which side the managers et al would come down on. If for no other reason than to avoid becoming the next target of protests, lawsuits etc.
Posted by: Chico Esquella at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (K44uE)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (nqBYe)
209 Feh
Hi and I totally agree with you
I wasn't too happy because they always whinge about the cost of coming to OZ to see me and my lovely country
They only want the suntan ...couldn't care less about the politics
Not my favourite rellies
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (b/1aA)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Fritz at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (dVmLD)
is give those thugs a chance .
Not the cuban people , but the lovely leaders of the dictatorship to prosper.
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (odDZy)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 09:56 AM (zF6Iw)
Then you haven't spent enough time around progs (and lucky you!), because they don't give a rat's ass for anything other than their goals. As Nevergiveup pointed out, they do however know that they would get the shit beaten out of them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:59 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 23, 2014 09:30 AM (0FSuD)
Answer must be in the form of a question.
Who is consistently, gratuitously racist?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 23, 2014 10:00 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:00 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:00 AM (k3WXB)
obama has a lot still to do in the next 2 years -- things, bad things, will be occuring very rapidly from now on
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 09:46 AM (TX2fN)
Every day I wonder if that idiot Juan McCain looks in the mirror and says to himself, "Maybe, just maybe I should have told people that they should be scared to death of a Barack Obama in the White House?"
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (fL/7/)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (Zu3d9)
Strictly speaking: probably not.
But it becomes really hard to articulate how we became different.
Evolution can't design. It can only select from the randomness of mutation.
Now it may have selected the hyper intelligence of humans (Personally I'm not convinced, but whatever) but it can't explain why that intelligence (And the logic derived from it) is better than the raw competition of animals.
Put differently, you merely have to assert it's better. You can start with that as an assertion, but it's more or less unprovable.
Unless you can prove it, in which case, go ahead.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (HDwDg)
Naaa. I'm a Sagittarius.
Actually, I've never read Thomas Aquinas. I probably should one of these days. But it is a recurring theme in philosophy. I'm pretty sure that Socrates would have agreed with Aquinas.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (kff5f)
227 Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb
"Is it like your version of Florida?"
Well I hadn't thought of that, but yes!
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (b/1aA)
I want peace for the family of the slain officers, but *if* the protesters show up it will go a long way in demonstrating who they really are. Harder for the MSM to cover up the ugliness.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (ABcz/)
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 09:58 AM (b/1aA)
How about me?
I have been there once, and had a glorious time. You live in a great place.
[I'll make the bed every day, and cook too!]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (3jmxp)
I think MP4 was referring to the Cops. Not the protestors.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:02 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:02 AM (ABcz/)
Yay for Cuban leadership!
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:02 AM (nqBYe)
Letter to Santa- pretty funny
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:03 AM (Zmw74)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:03 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (ABcz/)
Nah, it'll just be a few "bad apples".
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 10:03 AM (/Mxso)
I think you misunderstood me, CBD. I mean the cops' respect for the occasion would keep them in line instead of going full Chicago on the OWS scum.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:03 AM (nqBYe)
Visualize whirled peas.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (2Ojst)
Stalin was a Communist. The Chicoms stopped being Communist a while back. They are a state capitalist economy, with a nationalist ideology propping up the regime. They are Fascist by any definition. Do the research on Fascism and China's current system. See if I am wrong, I dare you.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (0xTsz)
who cares about the thousands floating up on american shores , running from the lovely leaderships threats?
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (nqBYe)
You would probably like Thomas Aquinas. Very logical in his own way. He was the intellectual underpinning (pro and con) for much of what we call philosophy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Guy Hanging on the Wall in Chinese Prison at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (k3WXB)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (zF6Iw)
I agree, however, I also think several of them would follow the protesters to another location and start cracking skulls.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (/Mxso)
The Daily Caller @DailyCaller
Students Rally Around Peer With 'No Sympathy' For Dead Cops At $60,000-A-Year Brandeis trib.al/5hb6ZPU
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (ZPrif)
More wives for Hector!
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (3jmxp)
I misunderstood.
Sorry.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (Zu3d9)
Ummmm.......murderers?
Posted by: 1bulwetweft
I'm thinking the answer is "the Patriarchy." It and Whitey are pretty much the cause of everything bad that's ever happened or will happen.
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (/Ho8c)
They won't show. Blue flu. There will be areas and neighborhoods they simply won't go to anymore. Like Bed Stuy. They want less police, they'll get it.
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Guy Shot Trying To Escape Cuba on an Innertube at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (MMC8r)
Aquinas followed from Aristotle.
So kinda.
If you grant evolution, then order did indeed arise out of chaos. The humanists might argue that it shows reason can form out of nonreason (again, I disagree, but playing devil's advocate here.)
It still leaves you with the inevitable problem: how do you judge reason as "better" absent mere assertion? You can't.
You can probably get close with utilitarian arguments, but those still require a value distinction that has no actual basis.
You can however get to it via an appeal to an outside source (i.e. God.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (HDwDg)
Yeah, did you see her name?
She also hates America so much. Is she even an American?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (ABcz/)
It's no longer a protest when there's a body count.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 09:53 AM (ABcz/)
Only angry, hardline, right-wingers would focus on two brutal murders rather than admit that the protests have been mostly peaceful.
Posted by: Time for douching at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (bHnlE)
That's what I've heard.
And I know that, for instance, CS Lewis drew heavily on Aquinas for Mere Christianity (the first 3rd of the book focuses on what Christian Apologists call "general revelation"). But I rarely read non-fiction. I tend to think of reading as an escape, and non-fiction rarely lets me escape.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (kff5f)
Who are Answers?
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2014 10:02 AM (ABcz/)
***********
WHEN ARE RACIST POLICE DOGS GOING TO STOP KILLING DOGS OF COLOR?
Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:04 AM (zF6Iw)
I agree, however, I also think several of them would follow the protesters to another location and start cracking skulls.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 10:05 AM (/Mxso)
Gee I am not so sure about that. Feelings are as hot as I have ever seen or heard in NYC. I can easily see things spinning quickly out of control.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (Zmw74)
Cuban citizens actually had to run after Castros reign of fear , theft, rounding up dissenters.
Cuban people that didn't drop to their knees fast enough.. well Who cares right?
theft , murder.
but hey it's been fifty years (like Castro is dead right!)
ok nevvermind about his kind hearted brother, He IS a good guy!
He is!
ok so not so srs, just fkn mad as hell.
reward the fks, The cuban people WILL prosper! we just Know that!
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:07 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (zOTsN)
Now would be the time for real men of the cloth in Bed-Sty to publicly hold rallies in support of all lives, not just black ones.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:08 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:08 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 09:49 AM (HDwDg)
I'm right there with you, tsrblke! Wife is scheduled to be induced on the 29th if the little guy doesn't decide to join us before then.
Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:08 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (3jmxp)
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (b/1aA)
neighborhoods they simply won't go to anymore. Like Bed Stuy. They
want less police, they'll get it.
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (zOTsN)
I was thinking about that last night. Since the people in the neighborhoods do not want to be policed and think any application of the law is racism, stop policing them entirely. See what happens to the already astronomical black on black crime rates.
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (/Mxso)
Rand Paul is airing Festivus grievances on twitter. Pretty funny. Couple little swipes at Santorum and Rubio.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:06 AM (/Ho8c)
White, straight, cis-gendered conservative males. The root of all evil.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (2Ojst)
"Unrelated attacks"
"appeared to be 'unbalanced' and not motivated by religion or politics"
"It was undetermined if religion provoked his actions."
"insisted there is no link"
UPI article. Even if you didn't know what was going on, there would be subtle clues...
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (0xTsz)
After reading the dump, I don't care any more. More precisely, I don't
fucking care anymore, I'm fucking sick and tired of it all.
Bottle up the anger and frustration. It will come to good use during the burning times.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (XzRw1)
Posted by: willow at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (nqBYe)
Whine all you want, but you hardliners have lost on the Cuba issue. Even most Republican support normalization of relations.
You lose again!
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:08 AM (659DL)
Congrats Mainah! Boy or girl?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:09 AM (da5Wo
Is he wearing a sweater borrowed from his old man screaming for the return of the gold standard and demanding an audit of the Fed? If he's not, he can STFU as well. Crazy scum bag.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (U93Mr)
How the U.S. helped Cuban spy impregnate wife... http://drudge.tw/13tsnfn
Obama had American fly the dude's sperm to Cuba. The dude we had locked for life as a Cuban spy. Two consecutive life terms for espionage. In jail since 1998.
But released by Obama 8 months after his wife got pregnant, thx to America flying his sperm to Cuba.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (ZPrif)
Yeah you know what?
These morning news dumps suck. Nothing personal, Benk, but your morning kick in the balls every day ruins my morning and is bad for my health.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (TX2fN)
Yup. I misunderstood.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (Zu3d9)
I do not grant a Darwinian rise of life. Once life gets here, I'm fine with "evolution" (though even that term is hard to pin down, I've found many people who believe in "evolution" believe in it differently).
But that gets into a whole 'nother discussion.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (kff5f)
Rand Paul is standing up to the hardline right. He is a hero to many libertarian and center-right types tired of hardline bullies.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Revvin' Al at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (XUKZU)
A strange combination of people, to be sure. Anyway, somehow the queen hippie got elected mayor, and as her first order of business she disbanded the (2 member) police force. The town was very excited not to have anyone busting their pot parties and issuing speeding tickets.
The county, however, was less excited about having to deal with inevitable issues that arise in a town that doesn't have any cops.
After she was run out of office after some scandal that I no longer remember, the new mayor decided that having no cops was just silly. So we got one. Progress!
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 10:10 AM (XzRw1)
I seem to be out of empty containers, care to share with me?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:12 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (MMC8r)
Who are you, anyway, Benk?
Where did you come from?? One day you suddenly appeared and WHAM! we're getting kicked in the balls by you every morning.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (TX2fN)
As I mentioned yesterday, I think the cops would go ballistic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)
I think they would want to, but their innate respect for the solemnity of the occasion would keep them in line.
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I should remind you that you will never, ever be able to under-estimate the evil, stupidity and pure unfiltered assholeness of the left.
The same people who have disrupted operas, sporting events, shut down malls, blocked streets and freeways--they have not one fucking shred of respect for any one else.
Fred Phelps is a Democrat.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (5yHi1)
the troll spells fascism correctly and ID'd it as a primarily economic theory.
Its a commenter posing as a troll
Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (kff5f)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:01 AM (HDwDg)
Thank you for understanding that "design" is the worst word possible to use to describe evolution.
It is certainly possible that evolution provided a unique structure in the human brain. There are plenty of unique traits; why not a soul?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (Zu3d9)
Just as physics is inherent to the physical universe, so is morality inherent in personality self-awareness.
Recognizing self and other will lead to moral righteousness. On any planet, anywhere in Creation.
As 'other' includes Deity conception, the Creator will be acknowledged as the one who 'built in' the facts, meanings, and values of life, but such faith-understanding is not requisite to discerning things, relationships, and righteousness.
For me, the Commandment is, Love God as your Father, but the second like unto it, love your neighbor as yourself, can be understood even in ignorance of the first part.
Am I being muddy here? Trying to be commentarily concise on a gigantic issue, while twiddling with this virtual keypad instead of real typing.
Posted by: mindful webworker - theologian, philosopher, janitor at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (UOsvH)
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I'm a big bang evolutionist. I believe the more you bang, the more you evolve.
Posted by: Tghe Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (fL/7/)
Medal of Honor Recipient, Army staff sergeant Clint Romesha DENIES Michelle Obama for SOTU Address
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey, Aiming His Torpedo at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (32Ze2)
And it is discussions such as this that expose the flaws in the internet.
God created bars specifically for these chats.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (Zu3d9)
Rand Paul is a hero standing up to hardline thugs.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (cnb+O)
Hmmm, applewood smoked goat bacon. Tasty.
Posted by: fairweatherbill gatekeeper of pestilence at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (LFK6k)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (MMC8r)
Medal of Honor Recipient, Army staff sergeant Clint Romesha DENIES Michelle Obama for SOTU Address
Posted by: RWC
Something terrible will happen to him or his immediate family. Just sayin.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (da5Wo)
Boy. We're hoping his 2 year old sister will be a calming influence on him. Right? Right!? yeah, unlikely. heh.
Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (odDZy)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (Zmw74)
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Which one?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Jerry Lewis at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (LhMb4)
Is he wearing a sweater borrowed from his old man screaming for the return of the gold standard and demanding an audit of the Fed? If he's not, he can STFU as well. Crazy scum bag.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (U93Mr)
*ahem*
Might I suggest, my friend, the decaf?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:17 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Jerry Lewis at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (LhMb4)
Within the week Jerry Lewis had hosted a telethon, La La Nice Lady.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:17 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:13 AM (MMC8r)
I will really worry when they bring out the Red-Stiletto of Facism.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (fL/7/)
It does not bother me when people shit in their own nests. It pisses me off to the point of violence when they come to shit in MY nest.
I remain convinced this is one reason that Progressives/Communists/Socialists/Fascists cling to the notion of everything and everybody being "connected". Without that connection, it's really easy to just turn one's back to the stupid
bastards.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (1vFHw)
Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:16 AM (659DL)
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
You're expecting a 2 yr old girl to be a calming influence? Lol.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (da5Wo)
You are neo-con Islamic as kisser anti-Latino black hating racist loser!
Rand Paul is giving us who oppose the neocon-socon-nativist axis of evil a voice to resist your evil agenda.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (cnb+O)
Might I suggest, my friend, the decaf?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:17
You mean my half-caf aint cutting it. Sorry BC. I'm just in one of those moods.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:19 AM (U93Mr)
Because by definition a soul exists beyond matter.
And evolution is an entirely material process.
Now if you define soul as "reasoning capability" sure, you could randomly throw something together that gets that. But you're still hard pressed to argue why it's "better."
Cockroaches out compete us.
Viruses live in far more extreme environments.
Many animals are better hunters.
The humanists have two choices: declare reason to be the ultimate good (with no basis other than personal preference) or declare animals and man to be roughly equivalent (the Singer path.)
As for "design" I've spent enough time with tenured biochemists who act like nature is an intelligent designer, I'm fully aware of that obvious contradiction.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:19 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:19 AM (sj3Ax)
Besides, it's best served cold.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:20 AM (k3WXB)
it must be more complex, it's got to be some kind of trick
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:20 AM (odDZy)
You're expecting a 2 yr old girl to be a calming influence? Lol.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (da5Wo)
Hahaha, I know, pipedream. She's going to have him belting out Frozen songs and bossing him around like there's no tomorrow.
Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Mainah at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:18 AM (cnb+O)
*waves*
HI HECTOR!
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 23, 2014 10:22 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Mainah
Tea parties.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:23 AM (k3WXB)
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That and indoor plumbing.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:23 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:15 AM (Zu3d9)
You make it out here, and the first drink is on me.
I'll even spring for the Microdistilled whiskey (but we'd have to go to that place, since it's only served in house.)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:14 AM (fL/7/
Balderdash.
What other animal describes the cosmos? What other animal does philosophy?
What other animal has invented the internet.
Animals have skills we often do not understand or cannot comprehend (after all we're linguistic creatures, most animals could only be described as such in the broadest meaning of the term).
But to declare they do the same things as us is anthropomorphism of the worst kind.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (MMC8r)
Tea parties.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:23 AM (k3WXB
dresses, nail polish, teen age girl friends who are hawt. Could be worse.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (U93Mr)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (odDZy)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (U93Mr)
it must be more complex, it's got to be some kind of trick
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:20 AM (odDZy)
Thinking that CPC officials are "Communist" is as stupid as thinking members of ISIS are "Islamic", which is something I expect from knuckle-dragging, hard-line, right-wingers.
Posted by: Time for douching at December 23, 2014 10:25 AM (bHnlE)
dresses, nail polish, teen age girl friends who are hawt. Could be worse.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (U93Mr)
That wasn't creepy at all.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:25 AM (2Ojst)
They can call themselves communist all they want, but China is a Fascist regime. Look up the definition of Fascism and study China's system, then get back to me.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:25 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:25 AM (odDZy)
Good night everyone - bedtime here
Have a wonderful yesterday and see you tonight when I get back from Midnight Mass ...
Posted by: aussie at December 23, 2014 10:26 AM (b/1aA)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:26 AM (zF6Iw)
If you can't argue definitions, shout nativist/hardliner/racist/bigot/homophobe as loud as you can.
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:27 AM (MMC8r)
My kids go boy girl boy girl
The older girl is the girliest girly girl ever except when it comes to playing video games with the boys. Then she turns into a tomboy super nerd. Actual conversation I overheard yesterday:
6 y/o girl "She can one hit kill Kaos? If that's true it would be so awesome!"
9 y/o boy "Well, according to this, she's done it once before, so it is definitely a possibility."
Nerds. NERDS. How did this happen?
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:27 AM (MYCIw)
I should be so lucky!
My kid is probably going to be some artist or something.
Or worse: an English major!
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:28 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:29 AM (MYCIw)
You lost on the cuba relations issue, deal with it.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:29 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:29 AM (MMC8r)
I've been neglect in my duties towards that thing, and it's time to make it right.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:30 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:30 AM (odDZy)
What do you losers have to say now?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (cnb+O)
See you tomorrow.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (/Ho8c)
Borrow one of BCochran's daughters....I am sure that they are perfectly well behaved and will be a tremendously calming influence.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (Zu3d9)
9 y/o boy "Well, according to this, she's done it once before, so it is definitely a possibility."
Nerds. NERDS. How did this happen?
That's not nerd. That's gamer.
Nerds would be arguing the relative force of Thor's hammer and the physics required to make Hadji's carpet fly.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (k3WXB)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (MMC8r)
Meh. Average Joe is whatever seems to get the biggest response today.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (sj3Ax)
-
Hector's got reserves of stupid that a normal man cannot even begin to fathom.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:32 AM (cnb+O)
Or worse: an English major!
Better than a theatre major.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:33 AM (k3WXB)
She'll probably end up fronting a punk band or something.
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:33 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:33 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 23, 2014 10:34 AM (3jmxp)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:34 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:28 AM (HDwDg)
***********
*looks around furtively*
Yeah! Dang English majors!!!
*scuttles away quietly (like a pair of ragged claws across the floors of silent seas)*
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 23, 2014 10:34 AM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:34 AM (Zmw74)
What other animal describes the cosmos? What other animal does philosophy?
What other animal has invented the internet.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (HDwDg)
Um....that was my point. Why are you rejecting the possibility that evolution has a hand in our uniqueness?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (sj3Ax)
There goes an English major right there! And it's armed with florid prose and symbolism!
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:24 AM (HDwDg)
Dude, I really thought that the sarc was obvious!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (fL/7/)
And I hope ANYBODY hassling somebody while burying their dead catches a case of something that involves swelling and leaky discharge. I don't care if the family is burying a cop, thug, or a bystander.
That shit is out of bounds, and a great recipe for making matters worse.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (1vFHw)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (XUKZU)
eventually obama will hand over Guantanamo
Hadnt thought of this, but it makes perfect sense.
In some 'negotiation' TFG will hand over Guantanamo for some nebulous concession by the Cubans. Then KSM goes to NYC for his press conference with Billy DeBlasio
Posted by: McCool at December 23, 2014 10:36 AM (g5Luu)
The troll is an open-borders supposed 'libertarian.' His fun-house mirror reality sees it all as a great success.
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:37 AM (MMC8r)
http://tinyurl.com/kxq78er
And you don't have to be RC to appreciate this great Christian.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2014 10:37 AM (Dj3AB)
Ah, well next time you're there, take 20 mile road south and you'll discover the glory that his Really Weird Hippie Land and National Park.
Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2014 10:37 AM (MYCIw)
Posted by: NCJ *save a cop-donate a tank* at December 23, 2014 10:37 AM (MaUQj)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:39 AM (k3WXB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2014 10:39 AM (Dj3AB)
what the older guys wanted to avoid was another Cultural Revolution style turmoil
so Deng and modernizers like Zhao Ziyang started opening doors to wider trade with the west and adopted some western business practices
but in Deng's words, it no longer mattered "whether the cat is white or black, as long as it catches mice"
what mattered was the success of the Communist Party
and it worked: when the old communist Hu died in 89, even the students in Tiananmen marched to show their support for him and his policies
try hard to grok that, troll
the only party in China is the CPC -- modifications are not transitions to something not-communist -- it's just communist "reform" necessary for communist survival
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:39 AM (odDZy)
How the U.S. helped Cuban spy impregnate wife... http://drudge.tw/13tsnfn
Obama had American fly the dude's sperm to Cuba. The dude we had locked for life as a Cuban spy. Two consecutive life terms for espionage. In jail since 1998.
But released by Obama 8 months after his wife got pregnant, thx to America flying his sperm to Cuba.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 23, 2014 10:11 AM (ZPrif)
And if a republican had done this? The sperm for cigars meme would be all over Twitter by now.
Posted by: Havedash at December 23, 2014 10:40 AM (G1XMn)
Im sure it has nothing to do with Obama being sympathetic to Shakurs cause.
AKA Joanne Chesimard who gunned down a NJ State Trooper
Weasel Zippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:40 AM (Zmw74)
Proof to back up your claims.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (zOTsN)
There goes an English major right there! And it's armed with florid prose and symbolism!
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (/Ho8c)
Git 'im! Git 'im before he gets allegorical!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (2Ojst)
the only party in China is the CPC -- modifications are not transitions to something not-communist -- it's just communist "reform" necessary for communist survival
Precisely. The difference between 'fascist' and 'communist' is just who holds the keys to the storefronts.
Castro and the commies will just get propped up with the inflow of cash and continue on for a few more decades instead of collapsing in a couple of years, and the Cubans get to be killed and imprisoned for the privilege.
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:42 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 08:56 AM (kdS6q)
You probably won't hear much until after Congress convenes in January.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Trade Your Tale of Woe for Genuine Sympathy at the Outrage Outlet! at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (hLRSq)
Borrow one of BCochran's daughters....I am sure that they are perfectly well behaved and will be a tremendously calming influence.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:31 AM (Zu3d9)
Apparently you missed the part where he lovingly(?) refers to them as the Drunken Midgets.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (2Ojst)
Leahy has got to be the single slimiest member of the US Senate of the last 100 years
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (odDZy)
I remember getting a contact buzz while bottling it up. Sure hope it's mellowed a bit over the past 7 months. Well, at least a LITTLE bit!
Posted by: Citizen X at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:43 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:44 AM (Zmw74)
So you deny China is Fascist, despite the fact their system is Fascist by any definition?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:44 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: akula51 at December 23, 2014 10:44 AM (R5qgD)
Posted by: Citizen X at December 23, 2014 10:44 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (Zmw74)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (k3WXB)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (zOTsN)
I did my own research and your claims are BS. I get you are a xenophobe and hate immigrants, but you are not in reality.
How does it feel to be a loser on the Cuba issue?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (cnb+O)
Cuba Refuses To Extradite Cop-Killing Black Panther Assata Shakur
Columbia will have to look elsewhere for a new prof now.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 23, 2014 10:46 AM (XzRw1)
Cubans look down at white trash as well. What's your point?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:47 AM (cnb+O)
Abbas: If UN proposal fails we will stop all joint operations with Israel
Growing up my kids used to stamp their feet and say similar things. We ignored them
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:47 AM (Zmw74)
So here's my question ... if Barry would have negotiated some reforms, either regarding human rights or property rights, would that change any minds ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 23, 2014 10:47 AM (1vFHw)
Posted by: akula51 at December 23, 2014 10:47 AM (R5qgD)
Posted by: Buck Naked, '70's Pron Star at December 23, 2014 10:48 AM (2Ayux)
Hector, go wrap a Christmas gift for someone you care for. Go drop some money in the Salvation Army kettle. Go do something nice for someone. You are just being antagonistic here. Hardly the charitable Christmas spirit. You've made references in the past that lead me to believe you come from a faith background. Express that side of you, instead of what you are doing here today. Merry Christmas.
Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 23, 2014 10:48 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:49 AM (zOTsN)
Have a day, y'all. I'm about to.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nobody at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (THZvf)
Trying to think of a Luvvie joke after prior Ginger Vs. MaryAnn comments and misreading that as Stockard Channing may have broken my brain this AM.
Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (DL2i+)
So?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (cnb+O)
Merry Christmas.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (Dj3AB)
Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, former aggravated libertarian at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (cmBvC)
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 10:50 AM (sj3Ax)
troll, you are confused and bedeviled by words
the reality is the the CPC still exists and exercises control to maintain its "socialism"
have there been changes to enable it to survive? yes. is every Chinese a true believer Commiebot? no. but this doesn't change the reality of the PRC
what you're perceiving is the fascistic core of all leftist/socialist systems
don't turn it into a head fake
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:51 AM (odDZy)
Do bears shit in the woods?
Is the Pope Catholic ( and remember I hate Catholics according to the resident troll)?
Does the Military hate Fredo?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (Zmw74)
Posted by: The Barrel at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (DT3rQ)
Hector you gonna go after the Castros for the racism and classism in Cuba?
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (zOTsN)
Fascism is a socialist ideology. What separates it from Communism is the nationalist aspect.
You are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (cnb+O)
I'm not rejecting that point, CBD.
But lots of animals have unique traits.
What I'm rejecting is the idea that you can assign our traits as "better" without either: a) question begging or b) appeal to an outside force.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:53 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:53 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:52 AM (cnb+O)
Jesus, that's like the pot calling the kettle black?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 23, 2014 10:54 AM (Zmw74)
Two wrongs don't make a right, or a quarterback.
Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2014 10:54 AM (DL2i+)
There goes an English major right there! And it's armed with florid prose and symbolism!
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (/Ho8c)
Git 'im! Git 'im before he gets allegorical!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (2Ojst)
*Escaped. Had a drink. It was a good drink. "I am having a good drink," I said. After a while I went out and walked back to the hotel in the rain.*
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 23, 2014 10:54 AM (vgIRn)
Supporting diplomatic relation with a country is not an endorsement of their system.
Either way, you lost on this issue!
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:54 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:55 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Anthropomorphic Global Warming at December 23, 2014 10:55 AM (2Ojst)
no, you're just tilting at windmills
if you want to know what to call the Chinese system, ask the Chinese
here's what they tell us: the PRC, and they belong to the CPC
go argue some other issue
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (odDZy)
The only blood you drew was your own. You lost on the Cuba issue and all you are doing is banging your head on the wall.
You lost, deal with it.
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (zOTsN)
I prefer a very secular government, myself. (You don't have to be an atheist to feel that way.) And although I was never "for" gay marriage, it was primarily b/c I felt the alternatives (civil unions and the like) addressed the supposed "need" for SSM -- and if they didn't, contract law could be amended to do so. As a conservative, I gravitate toward tradition and I dislike re-defining words/concepts that have served us fine for hundreds of years. Prior to the Prop 8 nonsense in California (which happened when I was living there), I would consider myself pretty much neutral on gay marriage --- but leaning against it for the reasons stated.
I thought that the "socons" who were warning against the attack on religion were over-reacting. And I assumed that part of it was that we just fundamentally disagreed about inserting religion/Christianity into daily government.
Then Prop 8 happened and a wave of nonsensical court decisions across the country.
And now I find within my own party that it is becoming A Matter Not To Be Discussed to want to keep traditional marriage. Suddenly *I'm* supposed to be shamed into silence for opposing SSM.
The long and short of it is that I was wrong and the socons were right. The SSM movement *is* about attacking religious freedom. Even more basic than that, it is about trying to insert government-imposed cultural views into the family unit. I have little doubt that today's parents experience constant push-back from schools and governments when they try to teach their kids basic things about human sexuality, marriage, and the like.
This infuriates me, as I am sure it will lead to a backlash.
The other day when we were talking about leading with economic issues, I was reminded about the "truce! truce!" brigade on the Right. "Management-styled" Republicans - and also Libertarians - who want to silence any talk of social issues.
I reject that.
I do NOT want to lead with social issues, but I do not want to toss out "socons" either.
Ideally, we can find a solid conservative candidate who has traditional values and let him or her run on pocketbook and security issues, but trust that he's going to try to put some of the genies back in the bottle.
Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (k3WXB)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (MMC8r)
You deny then that the system in China is Fascist?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (cnb+O)
our traits as "better" without either: a) question begging or b) appeal
to an outside force.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:53 AM (HDwDg)
Did I say that?
I am simply suggesting that a unique trait -- a brain that supports free will and a soul -- is not out of the question.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:57 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:57 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (MMC8r)
You have no idea what I've been forced to read the last few months.
There are people who believe that shit.
There are also people who think that humans (a linguistic group) can understand what a non-linguistic concept of death would look like. (How is that even possible?)
As such they feel confident saying things like (rough paraphrase here) "Wolves have no concept of death, we know this because 'death' is linguistic, and wolves aren't therefore they can't understand what 'death' is." Then going on and saying "wolves have a telos about roaming and shit."
That makes no sense. If survival instinct in a thing (and I think it is) then animals surely have some idea of "not surviving" even if it's a non-linguistic notion that we can't even begin to comprehend.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (HDwDg)
Dear Santa:
All I want for Christmas is a "report troll" button with someone paying attention on the other end.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (zOTsN)
just like Soviet shills banged on about Mother Russia
same old, same old
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (odDZy)
Sounds good to this socon.
Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 23, 2014 10:59 AM (dFi94)
5.0% GDP growth? Hmmmm. If so, there's your peak for this cycle, I predict.
If I was a NYC cop...wait, that could never happen so never mind. I'd walk off that job now.
NoKo web outage...that's it? Prezzy Pinprick strikes again?
Why does Saudi Arabia sound like a petulant child? "YOU cut production, and YOU cut production, WE aren't cutting production."
OK, more coffee...
Posted by: Meremortal at December 23, 2014 10:59 AM (1Y+hH)
Dear Santa:
All I want for Christmas is a "report troll" button with someone paying attention on the other end.
Ho ho ho.
Ho ho ho ho ho!!!!
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HO HO HO HO HO HO HO
HO HO HO HO HO HO HO
HO HO HO HO HO HO HO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Santa Ace at December 23, 2014 10:59 AM (MMC8r)
There goes an English major right there! And it's armed with florid prose and symbolism!
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:35 AM (/Ho8c)
Git 'im! Git 'im before he gets allegorical!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 23, 2014 10:41 AM (2Ojst)
*Escaped. Had a drink. It was a good drink. "I am having a good
drink," I said. After a while I went out and walked back to the hotel in
the rain.*
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains
ZOMG! It's from the elite Hemmingway Division!
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 10:59 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (9BRsg)"
How will you create the perfect society socons want without government force?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:00 AM (cnb+O)
how about Leahy's flying sperm to that Cuban spy?
why stop there, why not fly jihadi sperm back to Afghanistan?
that'll show 'em
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:00 AM (odDZy)
We'll have Fidel do it!
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 11:01 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 10:58 AM (HDwDg)
The existence of a survival instinct does not in any way suggest the existence of some concept of failure of that instinct.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:01 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:01 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 11:02 AM (8aCQe)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:02 AM (zOTsN)
This is just nonsense. Utterly.
Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 23, 2014 11:02 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (9BRsg)
... I'd say anybody that's seen hogs slaughtered knows that at least those animals have a concept of death.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (1vFHw)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (UhRGU)
http://tinyurl.com/pyuzzdt
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 11:02 AM (8aCQe)
*POINTS WILDLY*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:03 AM (odDZy)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: PeeWee Herman, eo-con Islamic as kisser anti-Latino black hating racist loser at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (odDZy)
OK, more coffee...
Posted by: Meremortal
That, or AOL went down.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (k3WXB)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 10:57 AM (Zu3d9)
:shrug:
you asked Why are you rejecting the possibility that evolution has a hand in our uniqueness?
I specifically noted in several places that I don't reject that particular point. I merely find it irrelevant.
God makes the rules, he's free to have given us souls via evolution or free to have raised us above animals after the fact as it were. Neither is outside the realm of possibility.
Except to note two things: 1) as I said, souls extend beyond the material, evolution does not. Not entirely sure how to jive those two (doesn't make it impossible just hard to grasp.
2) there's a tension between the idea of "Free will" and the evolutionary reliance on chemical interactions (which is somewhat determinalisitic.) That is to say: if we're only the products of evolution, then we're really just giant chemical processing machines, which seems to me at first glance to undercut any notion of free will. I can't entirely discount it though because I haven't really spent a ton of time thinking about it.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (Dj3AB)
Then you must love the Cuban regime then! Why are you mad about diplomatic relations with them then?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (cnb+O)
Either way, you lost on this issue!
Nu-UH!
(Your turn.)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 10:56 AM (MMC8r)
Yuh-huh, nativist hard-liner neocon.
Posted by: Time for douching at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (bHnlE)
Trending at National Review:
In New York City, Responsibility Lies with the Killer Alone
By Charles C. W. Cooke - Hogwarts
Whatever one's view of the police writ large, to call for the execution of individual officers is uncivilized and it is dumb, and it deserves to invite strict condemnation on the grounds of taste alone. If anybody started talking about "dead cops" near me, I would of course leave rather quickly.
But, and so on.
Argue with someone advocating killing cops? Moi? No, I shant. I shall simply slink away like a -- well -- a slink.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (kdS6q)
-
Easy. Stop subsidizing immorality.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (8aCQe)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 23, 2014 11:06 AM (k3WXB)
http://tinyurl.com/p5xdh46
Posted by: PaleRider at December 23, 2014 11:06 AM (7w/kf)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 11:06 AM (rwI+c)
You lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You lost!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (cnb+O)
Nu-UH!!!!!!!
Nu-UH!!!!!!!
Nu-UH!!!!!!!
Nu-UH!!!!!!!
Nu-UH!!!!!!!
TIMES INFINITY!!!!!!!
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 11:06 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Bigby's Coin-Rubbing Thumb at December 23, 2014 11:07 AM (3ZtZW)
Grammie
I hope you don't mind me resorting to the short-hand "socon" btw. I never know if that's considered offensive because it is so often used by assholes who are intending it as a slur.
I consider myself a "traditionalist" and sometimes find myself uncomfortable with some of the issues that others want to make part of the national dialogue [as an example: prayer in schools (a really small issue in many ways, but emblematic for me)].
Anyway, I am praying that this election cycle conservatives of many stripes can rally around a couple of strong candidates without damaging them in the primary, because I am not sure I could vote for the ones the GOPe seem to like.
Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 11:07 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Kesuke Miyagi at December 23, 2014 11:07 AM (rwI+c)
Perhaps.
But claiming some greater understanding of a wolves telos, while simultaneously claiming it can't understand death seems to be a bit of a contradiction, no?
(The arugment I'm bitching about is couched in the idea of a wolf caught in a trap and chewing off it's leg to escape. The idea that there is a concept of "Failure to survive" was baked into the whole argument. I find the entire argument to bullshit.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 11:08 AM (HDwDg)
*POINTS WILDLY*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD
I think I'm detecting a penchant for dramatic display.
That's especially cute in tiny people.
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 11:08 AM (/Ho8c)
"Easy. Stop subsidizing immorality.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 23, 2014 11:05 AM (8aCQe) "
What immorality are we subsidizing?
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:08 AM (cnb+O)
Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 11:08 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 11:09 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:09 AM (zOTsN)
You lost!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Time for peace at December 23, 2014 11:04 AM (cnb+O)
Hahahahahaha!
Posted by: Heralder at December 23, 2014 11:10 AM (/Mxso)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 11:10 AM (rwI+c)
I made no distinction between evolution and the hand of God. I see nothing that would suggest that the existence of evolution (a fact...not a theory) supposes the non-existence of God.
How do you know that God didn't set the universe in motion, then simply sit back and watch until some unique evolution-driven combination of chemical interactions was the perfect backdrop for a soul.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:10 AM (Zu3d9)
AP: Reacting to the latest news that ground squirrels are major contributors to global warming, an EarthFirst spokesman described the ground squirrel leadership on "high alert" amid concerns about a possible backlash against offending rodents.
#IWillChaseNutsWithYou
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:10 AM (odDZy)
They'll be importing mules for the girlie shows.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 23, 2014 11:11 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:11 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:09 AM (zOTsN)
Maybe in the abstract, but he seems rather impotent to me.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:12 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 23, 2014 11:14 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Feh at December 23, 2014 11:14 AM (odDZy)
Posted by: Y-not at December 23, 2014 11:14 AM (9BRsg)
Good point. Maybe not so much PIV rape, but more like using slobber-soaked dildos made from Duplo blocks, or whatever childrens' toys the ward nurses accidentally leave in his cell after the nightly injections.
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 23, 2014 11:15 AM (/Ho8c)
I don't.
In fact I grant that likelihood.
There are certain tensions to a purely materialistic approach to evolution that I can't quite work out. Doesn't mean they can't. After all, I don't have the mind of God.
I'd note that we've drifted off topic. The original context was "how to the secular humanists find a basis for morality"
I noted that they have a weak basis for it because ultimately they have to make a value judgment that I think cannot be supported solely by facts.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 11:15 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: --- at December 23, 2014 11:15 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 23, 2014 11:21 AM (zOTsN)
Over 300 veterans died languishing while being denied care. Executives presiding over this got bonuses.
Obamacare is screwing over the middle class.
And pres boyfriend is airlifting spysperm to Cuba?
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 23, 2014 11:23 AM (Spluw)
What they do on the way down after being tossed off the ramp at 40000 feet is Allah's business.
Posted by: DaveA at December 23, 2014 11:26 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 23, 2014 11:15 AM (HDwDg)
Shocking.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2014 11:26 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 23, 2014 11:27 AM (rwI+c)
...
*POINTS WILDLY*
AARRGHWHOOOO, WOOOF, WOOF
Posted by: Teh Neighbors Dawg at December 23, 2014 11:29 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Carol at December 23, 2014 11:32 AM (sj3Ax)
You remind me of the awful poodle like lap dog I used to be unfortunate enough to live next door to. Whenever the idiotic owners let it out, it was "yap, yap, yap" all night.
Your posts are nothing more than pathetic yaps for attention. As I've posted before, nobody gives a flying flip what you think. By all means, please continue. While your repetitive yaps are boorish, I think it is a good thing to expose the typical liberal lunacy that you represent.
You know who really lost? Liberal talking points; see last election results. Deal with it. If we are so wrong, how come you are a minority in both houses of Congress now? That's got to hurt. Here's some exclamation points for you! Merry Christmas troll!!!
Posted by: Trollnip at December 23, 2014 11:47 AM (TaO1J)
Posted by: Tina at December 24, 2014 01:22 AM (dm/wE)
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