What Exactly Has North Korea Done That Progressives Don't Do Every Single Day?

A professor blogged a criticism of a teaching assistant, who'd discussed gay marriage in her classroom, but then shut down all dissent, claiming dissent to be illegitimate (per his claim).

Result? The university is "investigating" him and has suspended him from all teaching duties.

arquette University has suspended with pay and barred from campus the tenured professor who criticized a graduate student instructor in a personal blog, pending an investigation into his conduct.
John McAdams, an associate professor of political science at Marquette, last month wrote a controversial blog post accusing a teaching assistant in philosophy of shutting down a classroom conversation on gay marriage based on her own political beliefs. He based the post on a recording secretly made by a disgruntled student who wished that the instructor, Cheryl Abbate, had spent more time on the topic of gay marriage, which the student opposed. McAdams said Abbate, in not allowing a prolonged conversation about gay marriage, was "using a tactic typical among liberals," in which opinions they disagree with "are not merely wrong, and are not to be argued against on their merits, but are deemed 'offensive' and need to be shut up."
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McAdams shared the text of an email he received from Richard Holz, dean of the Helen Way Klinger College of Arts and Sciences.
"The university is continuing to review your conduct and during this period -- and until further notice -- you are relieved of all teaching duties and all other faculty activities, including, but not limited to, advising, committee work, faculty meetings and any activity that would involve your interaction with Marquette students, faculty and staff," Holz wrote.

Apparently the academy is no longer the place for academic debate.

Posted by: Ace at 06:47 PM

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1 You can debate all you want... You just have to agree with them...

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 18, 2014 06:49 PM (Bn6aD)

2 Just in the nick of time. The other thread seems to have stalled out.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 06:50 PM (sdi6R)

3 Head exploding in 5-4-3-2-1......

Posted by: Kim Jong at December 18, 2014 06:51 PM (Xg82m)

4 Corgis summoned.

Posted by: Rubber-banded Baby Lamb at December 18, 2014 06:52 PM (0NdlF)

5 WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME ALL ALONE ON THE LAST THREAD???

Posted by: AL SHARPIE at December 18, 2014 06:53 PM (JdEZJ)

6 Apparently the academy is no longer the place for academic debate

Universities, particularly the expensive hoity-toity ones, have degenerated into indoctrination centers pushing propaganda.

There are only three reasons to go college:

1. You can't get a job without a degree now-a-days

2. STEM subjects necessitate it

3. You make connections (it's not what you know but who you know).

Unless you can get into a really well connected school, it is best to avoid the ones that aren't well known for their STEM programs. Instead, go to community college half time, and then finish up your last two years at a local state college, so that you can get the degree.

Posted by: The Hooded Hat at December 18, 2014 06:53 PM (lN8KC)

7 They are mentally weak and emotionally fragile. When you give a weak man power, he quickly becomes a tyrant.

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 18, 2014 06:53 PM (fMQoG)

8 shut up, she explained

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 06:54 PM (zOTsN)

9 The kid recorded the conversation so the usual "lie and cover up!" defense has been abandoned In this instance. They've gone straight to "move along, nothing to see here".

Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 06:54 PM (Txwwy)

10 He's being investigated for Suspicion of Harboring Unapproved Thoughts

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 06:54 PM (8ZskC)

11 And the U of Michigan Prof that had a screed about HATING Republicans will get................a raise most likely. Higher Ed is a fucking cesspool filled of a group think ideology and close minded fascists.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 18, 2014 06:54 PM (KBIDy)

12 The higher education system in this country needs to be crushed. Forget about donating to political candidates. Donate to conservative lawyers who will go sue-happy against these institutions. Hit 'em hard and often and don't let up. When enough of them suffer major, debilitating financial losses, maybe things will change.

Posted by: joefl65 at December 18, 2014 06:55 PM (UFV5W)

13 Fuck Free Speech.

Posted by: The American Left at December 18, 2014 06:55 PM (ZPrif)

14 Some more of that phony "Outrage" we were just discussing....

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 18, 2014 06:55 PM (Bn6aD)

15 they will not engage in a battle of wit because they know they are unarmed

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 06:55 PM (zOTsN)

16 I said it earlier, but Hollywood is constantly caving to special grievance groups, such as CAIR, the LGBT groups, etc. Just this time the offended group used the subtlety of a sledgehammer. Usually it's executed with social media campaigns and boycotts.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 06:55 PM (ABcz/)

17 Well done, Marquette. Well done.

Don't make our mistake though. We were way to easy on Galileo.

Posted by: The Roman Catholic Inquisition at December 18, 2014 06:56 PM (8ZskC)

18 Most countries don't have Free Speech, you know.
It's actually America that is the weird one with how we fetishize Free Speech.
Most of Europe doesn't have Free Speech and look at them, they're doing fine.

Posted by: The American Left at December 18, 2014 06:56 PM (ZPrif)

19 Can we get the Norks to hack these guys?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2014 06:57 PM (W5DcG)

20 University used to be a place where it's safe to explore ideas. Now it's a place where you're safe from ideas. And safe from any consequences from your actions, so long as you only harm the other.

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at December 18, 2014 06:57 PM (PGXA8)

21
Let me take a puff of my pipe, and sit here quietly while I contemplate this matter...

/strokes chin thoughtfully

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 06:57 PM (+cLwS)

22 The kid recorded the conversation so the usual "lie and cover up!"
defense has been abandoned In this instance. They've gone straight to
"move along, nothing to see here".

Body cameras for teachers! Tongues up, don't refute.

Posted by: pep at December 18, 2014 06:58 PM (4nR9/)

23 >>...Richard Holz, dean of the Helen Way Klinger College of Arts and Sciences.

Which is his middle name, "butt" or "ass"?

Posted by: Aviator at December 18, 2014 06:59 PM (3rrMW)

24
Alternate post title:

How The Left Is Turning Everything Into The Forbidden N-Word

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 06:59 PM (+cLwS)

25 You are on fire today Ace!

I always enjoy your dissection of the thought processes and motivations of people in the context latest outrage. I think you are dead on.

Thanks for all you do.

Posted by: Brian at December 18, 2014 06:59 PM (rxSnE)

26 WTF?

Posted by: Socrates at December 18, 2014 06:59 PM (8ZskC)

27 Body cameras for teachers! Tongues up, don't refute.
Posted by: pep at December 18, 2014 06:58 PM (4nR9/)

I Can't Think !!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2014 06:59 PM (W5DcG)

28 Progressive lives matter!

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 18, 2014 07:00 PM (Bn6aD)

29 You know, I never thought that gay marriage would be the way fascism would come to America. People are doing all sorts of batshit crazy things in its name.

I'm old enough to remember when people like Harvey Milk were against the whole idea and considered anybody who brought it up to be bigoted and homophobic.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 07:00 PM (L2xDv)

30 19 Can we get the Norks to hack these guys?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2014 06:57 PM (W5DcG)

I'm sure ISIS would be willing to hack them.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 07:00 PM (sdi6R)

31 Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at December 18, 2014 06:57 PM (PGXA

You are free from freedom.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 07:00 PM (lZ1M5)

32 Just the beginning

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 18, 2014 07:00 PM (Txwwy)

33 Absolutely shameful what happened to this professor.
Even though he has tenure he needs to apply someplace else-like Francisian (sp?) Univ of Steubenville or Hillsdale or another more conservative college that actually exists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 07:01 PM (Dj3AB)

34 Correction: Context [of the] latest outrage.

Posted by: Brian at December 18, 2014 07:01 PM (rxSnE)

35 The Student Loan program has been one long Government Bailout.

It has to stop.

Make colleges cosign for all student loans...and they will stop cranking out these worthless degrees.

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 07:01 PM (Dlofw)

36 How do you say "Shut Your Piehole" in Latin?

Because I bet it would look great on the Official Marquette Seal.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 07:01 PM (8ZskC)

37 ...dean of the Helen Way Klinger College of Arts and Sciences.

Any relation to Maxwell Klinger of Toledo?

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:02 PM (XzRw1)

38 Make colleges cosign for all student loans...and they will stop cranking out these worthless degrees.
Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 07:01 PM (Dlofw)

They probably want "single payer" for college.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2014 07:02 PM (W5DcG)

39 You Will Be Assimilated. Refusal To Assimilate Is Hate Speech And Will Be Punishable By Death.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at December 18, 2014 07:02 PM (Opyrm)

40 26 WTF?
Posted by: Socrates at December 18, 2014 06:59 PM (8ZskC)
================================

All you do is ask questions!

Posted by: Plato at December 18, 2014 07:02 PM (Txwwy)

41 Yup that is true NK is not doing all that much different than the liberal mafia on most College Campuses and I could easy laugh at that and that liberal Hollywood getting hoisted on their own pittard, HOWEVER, this involves the whole Country and I do NOT choose to go down with the ship

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 07:02 PM (nzKvP)

42 "The university is continuing to review your conduct and during this period -- and until further notice -- you are relieved of all teaching duties and all other faculty activities, including, but not limited to, advising, committee work, faculty meetings and any activity that would involve your interaction with Marquette students, faculty and staff," Holz wrote.

What? No teaching, no committee work, no faculty meetings? Woot! Why didn't I know it was that easy to get out of that bullshit? That's like being forbidden to file income taxes!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 07:03 PM (oKE6c)

43 cpl klinger

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 18, 2014 07:03 PM (fIv/H)

44
Lately I've been often thinking of things in terms of how they shrink my universe.

Speech code, for instance, makes mine and your's worlds smaller. Another example: death diminishes your universe (or wolrd, same idea).

Anything that takes something away from you, be it a word or a idea or a loved one, makes your world smaller.

And my world is getting mighty small these days. I don't know about you, but I'm getting tired of it.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:03 PM (+cLwS)

45 Jesuits = commies

Commies = approved speech only or off to the camps with you

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 07:03 PM (l9mF2)

46 cpl klinger

Well He was a cross dresser....

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 18, 2014 07:04 PM (Bn6aD)

47 Dean Dick Holes

Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2014 07:04 PM (w32Yh)

48
Body cameras for teachers! Tongues up, don't refute.
Posted by: pep at December 18, 2014 06:58 PM (4nR9/)

TRIGGER WARNING! TRIGGER WARNING!

ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE OF ACADEMIA! CHILLING EFFECT! RIGHT TO PRIVACY! BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2014 07:04 PM (TIIx5)

49 Great post, compelling and rich.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 18, 2014 07:04 PM (9sMMW)

50 Holz, Dick.

Posted by: Garrett at December 18, 2014 07:04 PM (d8S42)

51 I once had colleague who got rung up for banging one of his students (only arts types get to do that with impunity), and he too was banned from doing any of the crap the rest of us had to put up with all the time.

The administration seemed to think that was a crushing punishment, but the rest of us viewed us as being required to motorboat Kate Upton. That'll teach him!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 07:05 PM (oKE6c)

52
obama un-doing things that I hold near and dear to my heart is shrinking my world.

obama is taking things away from me of which he has No Right to do so.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:06 PM (+cLwS)

53 Thankfully with social media we can get around the overly lenient First Amendment and render you unemployable if you say something hate-based, conservative, or ignorant online. Hate Speech isn't Free Speech!

First Amendment doesn't say we can't organize pressure groups to spy on all your social media and organize digital lynch mobs to get you fired!

Progress!!

Posted by: The American Left at December 18, 2014 07:06 PM (ZPrif)

54 "The university is continuing to review your conduct and during this period -- and until further notice -- you are relieved of all teaching duties and all other faculty activities

Next investigatory step: See if he floats.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 07:06 PM (8ZskC)

55 It's like liberals are really fascists or something.

Someone should write a book about it.

Posted by: blaster at December 18, 2014 07:06 PM (Rx8ML)

56 The professor will get his job back. We have elected republicans and ... well. Shit I think he is screwed.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 18, 2014 07:06 PM (WNERA)

57 The Student Loan program has been one long Government Bailout.

It has to stop.

Make colleges cosign for all student loans...and they will stop cranking out these worthless degrees.

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 07:01 PM (Dlofw)

Better yet, defer tuition until after graduation, with the college taking a certain percentage of the graduate's earnings for a certain number of years.

Posted by: The Percentile Hat at December 18, 2014 07:06 PM (lN8KC)

58 Hey Cheryl! Wanna dance? Maybe a night on the town will help you get over yourself.

Posted by: Lowell George is Awesome at December 18, 2014 07:06 PM (Txwwy)

59 38...They probably want "single payer" for college.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2014 07:02 PM (W5DcG)

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Some have been calling for that for years...for state colleges.

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 07:07 PM (Dlofw)

60 Hands Up, Don't Think!

Posted by: Garrett at December 18, 2014 07:07 PM (d8S42)

61 I'm old enough to remember when people like Harvey
Milk were against the whole idea and considered anybody who brought it
up to be bigoted and homophobic.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 07:00 PM (L2xDv)

He found time to comment on public affairs in between cornholing boys he'd found at the Greyhound station? Where did he find the time?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 07:07 PM (oKE6c)

62 35 The Student Loan program has been one long Government Bailout.

It has to stop.

Make colleges cosign for all student loans...and they will stop cranking out these worthless degrees.
Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 07:01 PM (Dlofw)

Exactly. It's a taxpayer subsidy to the higher educational system. It also enables colleges to keep increasing their tuition.

If the student loan program went away, colleges would have to lower their tuition to what students and their parents could actually afford through savings and work.

That would also force colleges to cut out the dead wood, such as "studies" programs. A lot of Marxist professors would find themselves unemployed.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 07:08 PM (sdi6R)

63 Well, North Korea is the ideal they are striving for, after all.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2014 07:08 PM (OCcU9)

64 I remember the TAs in my 100 level philosophy courses fucking with the mush head moral relativists. Pretty much every discussion ended with the leftist students admitting the nazis had some good ideas.

Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2014 07:08 PM (w32Yh)

65
More to the point, every time the Left takes away a word or even a football team's name, they make our world smaller.

Conversely, with our diminishing world comes their increasing power. I do not like this equation.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:08 PM (+cLwS)

66 It's a Jesuit school. So naturally the Catechism of the Catholic Church is hate speech there

Posted by: spade at December 18, 2014 07:09 PM (ASgYA)

67 Students loans used to be a gov bail out.
Now they are not allowed to be discharged in normal bankruptcy.

Posted by: navybrat at December 18, 2014 07:09 PM (JgC5a)

68 38...They probably want "single payer" for college.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2014 07:02 PM (W5DcG)

Actually, I doubt it. The government is notoriously tight with bucks for things like that (see, e.g., the VA, Indian reservations). Universities are much better off being able to shake down alumni.

With guaranteed subvention comes guaranteed ceilings, and a buttload of government control. And if there's one thing universities don't like, it's interference by anyone outside the university.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 07:09 PM (oKE6c)

69 Did this part get by people:

"last month wrote a controversial blog post accusing a teaching assistant..."

It may simple be against Marquette policy for faculty to publicly post something like that. Basically, it's a "you suck" to one of the teaching assistants in another department, in public. It may be against Marquette rules to do that. If it is, the suspension is warranted. You break the rules, you take your lump.

Posted by: zerk at December 18, 2014 07:11 PM (dFBkj)

70 America 2014 is awesome. You are allowed to say anything you want -- as long as you are independently wealthy and don't need a job or income! Or if you are a paid political commentator or stand-up comedian.

Why, there are literally hundreds of people in America who can say whatever they want without fear of retribution.

The other 320 million of us have to use fake names on the internet.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 07:11 PM (ZPrif)

71 DePaul University in Chicago has been doing this for years. DePaul has been taken over by muzzies also and I'm not sure how that will play out long term, since lefties are hard pro-gay and muzzies, well........

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 07:11 PM (l9mF2)

72 I'm still imagining all the MSNBC talking heads who were invited to the WH Christmas party Tuesday night. (Fox had three, including Megyn Kelly.)'

Can you imagine that hive of socialists, spittle-spraying mouth-breathers, angry leftists, and that guy Madcox loose in our White House? And Al F*cking Sharpton. Sigh.

Barry and Mooch must have been in their element.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2014 07:11 PM (FsuaD)

73 Finally read the post.

That should have been:

Hands Up, Don't Refute!

Posted by: Garrett at December 18, 2014 07:12 PM (HYl8S)

74 AND it's none other than Obama's signature on the very bill that made student loans non dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Posted by: navybrat at December 18, 2014 07:12 PM (JgC5a)

75 It may be against Marquette rules to do that. If it is, the suspension is warranted. You break the rules, you take your lump.
--
Are you joking? It's ok if Marquette has a rule banning the public criticism of Marquette staff?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 07:12 PM (ZPrif)

76 Its going to be pretty funny when this guy sues the school for wrongful termination.

Yeah, I know, they haven't done it yet. But the weekend is almost here.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 18, 2014 07:13 PM (UbPsx)

77 Exactly. It's a taxpayer subsidy to the higher educational system. It also enables colleges to keep increasing their tuition.

If the student loan program went away, colleges would have to lower
their tuition to what students and their parents could actually afford
through savings and work.

That would also force colleges to cut out the dead wood, such as
"studies" programs. A lot of Marxist professors would find themselves
unemployed.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 07:08 PM (sdi6R)

A (not so) modest proposal: charge for units in inverse proportion to the amount of money brought into the university through overheads on grants and bequests.

Little known fact: most universities fund a lot of their ongoing operations through the overheads on Federal grants brought in (mostly) by science and engineering faculty. So if someone wants to study in those departments, which pull a lot more than their weight, that student's tuition should be lower than those wishing to study some risible bullshit that never brings a dime into the place (yeah, I'm looking at you, Gender Studies). Make those students pay the full freight, the fully burdened cost of the physical plant, salaries, and benefits for faculty and administrators involved in that department.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 07:13 PM (oKE6c)

78 That same Marquette professor had previously been suspended for disputing the fake 1in 5 women are raped on campus lie -- Left said it was sexual harassment.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 07:14 PM (ZPrif)

79 Students are just the conduit between the school treasury and a river of sweet gub'mint cash. It doesn't matter what the students are taught or whether they have a snowball's chance of ever earning enough to pay it back. Just keep processing those financial aid packages and don't worry too much about the poor chumps who will have to repay their six-figure loans on the income earned with a degree in Societal Gender Dialectics.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 07:14 PM (8ZskC)

80 Prof: "Liberals typically end debate by shutting people up."
Liberals: "WE DO NOT! YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG! STAY AWAY FROM CAMPUS UNTIL YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND!!!!!!"

Posted by: Filly at December 18, 2014 07:14 PM (ZWmKk)

81 I wonder what the JEF and his minions have in mind for 2015?

You just know they'd love to have complete control of the internet. Shut down all conservative blogs, any conversation whatsoever that doesn't Conform.

I've tried, tried, tried in the past to get this through my lib sister's head. She still believes in "freedom of speech....except...." I've given up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2014 07:15 PM (FsuaD)

82 As a conservative, I'm a strong supporter of free speech. But it's important for college students to learn that homophobia and intolerance are not acceptable.

College administrators are very intelligent, and they understand the difference between free speech and extremist rhetoric.

Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at December 18, 2014 07:15 PM (Ks4nX)

83 So you are saying 2 Masters in Poetry and Creative Writing would not be a wise choice?

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at December 18, 2014 07:15 PM (jucos)

84 The administration seemed to think that was a crushing punishment, but the rest of us viewed us as being required to motorboat Kate Upton. That'll teach him!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 07:05 PM (oKE6c)

As many an offshore oilfield worker has said, "Don't threaten me with beer and p****."

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 07:16 PM (lZ1M5)

85 Say all you want about communism, but their indoctrination is free.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 18, 2014 07:16 PM (9miVc)

86 72: Jane, we'll never get the smell of taint out of the White House.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 07:16 PM (ucDmr)

87
Did we ever find out who Liberal Larry was?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:16 PM (+cLwS)

88 Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein

Please shut your whore mouth.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 18, 2014 07:17 PM (9sMMW)

89 We need conservative retirees to audit as many classes as possible at their amla maters, and to take liberal profs and TA's to the woodshed. It's going to be the only way to see liberal thought challenged in the classroom.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 18, 2014 07:17 PM (UbPsx)

90 67 Students loans used to be a gov bail out.
Now they are not allowed to be discharged in normal bankruptcy.

Posted by: navybrat at December 18, 2014 07:09 PM (JgC5a)

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Which is basically...enslavement...Government Enslavement.

The whole concept of 'student loan' originated in the private sector.
But it was parents who took out a loan, to give their kids a college education.

Then, the government wanted to take the parents out of the equation.
So they came up with the 'Government Student Loan'...which gives loans to young people who have No Assets, No Jobs and No Credit Rating.

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 07:17 PM (Dlofw)

91 Posted by: zerk at December 18, 2014 07:11 PM (dFBkj)
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One of the fun things about this Kafkaesque moment is he wasn't actually accused of anything at all. He received a suspension notice without naming the crime or accuser, though the letter writer helpfully included a copy of Marquettes anti-harassment policy.

Volokh got a bit more out of them after the fact, but still nothing definitive.

Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 07:17 PM (Txwwy)

92 Well, in "The Orphan Master's Son," which I recently read, the Norks send a couple of "techs" when you are weak and old, or just ill, and drain you of most all your blood, the blood going into blood bags for use by others.

And of course you die.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 18, 2014 07:17 PM (vSxTY)

93
If Ace is still around...

the next rape post needs to include this self-defense video for rape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsxNC0vcKZE

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:18 PM (+cLwS)

94 17
Well done, Marquette. Well done.

Don't make our mistake though. We were way to easy on Galileo.

Posted by: The Roman Catholic Inquisition at December 18, 2014 06:56 PM (8ZskC)
False. Please don't this myth. http://tinyurl.com/oz92smv

Posted by: Filly at December 18, 2014 07:18 PM (ZWmKk)

95 I've been painting all damn day and now that it's dry, surprise the paint company gave me flat paint, not semigloss and all that work has literally been useless. Did I mention I've had all 4 kids with me in an empty house? I want to scream. And shoot up Pittsburgh paint with a paint gun.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2014 07:18 PM (I8YqV)

96 Please shut your whore mouth.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 18, 2014 07:17 PM (9sMMW)

Wonder what would happen if you asked a gender studies major to get something for you off a tall shelf? You being a guy, and the student being an angry feminist.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2014 07:18 PM (FsuaD)

97 *don't SPREAD

Posted by: Filly at December 18, 2014 07:18 PM (ZWmKk)

98 Opinions Expressed in Social Media
--------------------------

Publicly opposing Affirmative Action
=
Racist. Bigotry. Unfit to work in Corporate America or any position in federal, state, or local government.

Publicly doubting a Rape Accusation
=
Sexist. Sexual harassment by proxy. Unfit to work in Corporate America or any position in federal, state, or local government.

Publicly opposing Gay Marriage
=
Bigotry. Homophobia. Unfit to work in Corporate America or any position in federal, state, or local government.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 07:19 PM (ZPrif)

99
I look forward to the day that the govt has nothing to do with student loans which is the real reason leftism has taken over higher ed in this country. Otherwise, people would make a cost-benefit calculation and womyns studies programs would be no more.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 07:19 PM (NtzGn)

100 95
I've been painting all damn day and now that it's dry, surprise the
paint company gave me flat paint, not semigloss and all that work has
literally been useless. Did I mention I've had all 4 kids with me in an
empty house? I want to scream. And shoot up Pittsburgh paint with a
paint gun.

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2014 07:18 PM (I8YqV)

*slides large glass of ice cold Pinot Grigio through USB port*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2014 07:20 PM (FsuaD)

101 Coincidentally, Megyn Kelly is also invited to my Christmas party.

Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 07:20 PM (Txwwy)

102 College administrators are very intelligent, and they understand the difference between free speech and extremist rhetoric.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at December 18, 2014 07:15 PM (Ks4nX)
*********
So very true my friend. Young people only think they are being responsible with their freedoms, but I trust the Educrats to know and do what's best.

Posted by: Samuel Oliver Caleb Kingsley at December 18, 2014 07:20 PM (jucos)

103 Don't ask for whom the bell tolls . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 18, 2014 07:21 PM (JO9+V)

104
hillary clinton is gonna win in 2016 on the promise she's gonna forgive all student loans

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:21 PM (+cLwS)

105 104 why not, it won't be much over 1.2 trillion

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 18, 2014 07:22 PM (WNERA)

106 What's coming up in 2015?

I think that Barky will use this Sony Hack as a reason to take over more control of the Internet.

For 'security' reasons, of course.
Never let a crisis go to waste.

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 07:22 PM (Dlofw)

107 They've shot themsleves in the foot. In their race to support a liberal grad student against a TENURED professor, they sacrifice both academic freedom and tenure at the altar of political correctness. Tenure has been under growing pressure anyway, it's reason for existence being questioned in contemporary society - and here is a university putting another nail in the coffin lid. Hell, next they'll be doing away with faculty senates - and that would be a Godsend for sure!

Posted by: Geoffreys at December 18, 2014 07:22 PM (UBuCJ)

108 92
Well, in "The Orphan Master's Son," which I recently read, the Norks
send a couple of "techs" when you are weak and old, or just ill, and
drain you of most all your blood, the blood going into blood bags for
use by others.

And of course you die.

Norkcare!

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:23 PM (XzRw1)

109 Maybe I am an old fogey, but I remember a time when one had a disagreement with one's colleagues, one went to the administration to discuss it.

Instead of posting the disagreement on the town bulletin board for everyone to read.

If this professor felt this strongly about the teaching assistant's performance, then why not bring it up with superiors?

Posted by: Jen the original at December 18, 2014 07:24 PM (cPPlg)

110 6: You can't get a job without a degree now-a-days

Yes you can. In the IT world anyway, certifications can work just fine (CCNA, MCSE, etc). I'm speaking from personal experience anyway.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 18, 2014 07:24 PM (20X6f)

111 I think that Barky will use this Sony Hack as a reason to take over more control of the Internet.

I think his string pullers masterminded the hack.

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:25 PM (XzRw1)

112
Ha.

OT: That Sony Films Prez had to meet with Sharpie Sharpton to grovel at the magnificence of cultural piety.

The agreed upon dollar amount payoff is currently unknown.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 07:25 PM (NtzGn)

113 It almost makes me think Marquette's being punked.

On the other hand, I look forward to the time when I won't be able to speak my mind without being put in jail.

Posted by: Uncle Bob at December 18, 2014 07:26 PM (3GFMN)

114 Jimi Hendrix recorded a song once called "Machine Gun". Listening to it right now. Machine Gun. Where is the outrage?!

Posted by: Killer Joe Biden at December 18, 2014 07:26 PM (Txwwy)

115 I've always been a live and let live type on the subject of homosexuality but this non-stop, aggressive, in your face bullying makes me want to start putting my investment money into closet manufacturers.

Posted by: LGoPs at December 18, 2014 07:27 PM (Ld9R0)

116 112

Ha.

OT: That Sony Films Prez had to meet with Sharpie Sharpton to grovel at the magnificence of cultural piety.

The agreed upon dollar amount payoff is currently unknown.

Jizya or an indulgence?

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:27 PM (XzRw1)

117 Ok I'm protest watching team America tonight since it requires nothing more than throwing on a Netflix movie in my pjs it is perfect.

After that I will continue my march through netflix available James Bond films.

Posted by: Lea at December 18, 2014 07:27 PM (/bd0t)

118 If this professor felt this strongly about the teaching assistant's performance, then why not bring it up with superiors?
---
It was a national news story when the lecturer banned the student, at a Catholic university, from arguing that gay marriage was wrong.

He was commenting on a national news story. That happened to involved a co-worker. Who he probably had never met.

Blogs aren't a new thing.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 07:28 PM (ZPrif)

119 THE AGREED UPON DOLLAR AMOUNT PAYOFF IS CURRENTLY UNKNOWN?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 18, 2014 07:28 PM (V70Ne)

120 If this professor felt this strongly about the teaching assistant's performance, then why not bring it up with superiors?

Posted by: Jen the original at December 18, 2014 07:24 PM (cPPlg)

It's probably the only way he could get his opinion (or side of the story) out there for public consumption. If he had quietly gone to the administration, he'd still be suspended and under investigation, only then he'd also be having to deal with rumors that he was molesting coeds. By putting his thoughts out in the public forum, he's ahead of the shady accusations and rumors game.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2014 07:28 PM (nL0sw)

121 Well, in "The Orphan Master's Son," which I recently read, the Norks
send a couple of "techs" when you are weak and old, or just ill, and
drain you of most all your blood, the blood going into blood bags for
use by others.

Oh, that's what I want if I'm on the receiving end of that: a bag of someone's sick blood.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 07:28 PM (0HooB)

122 If this professor felt this strongly about the teaching assistant's performance, then why not bring it up with superiors?

Posted by: Jen the original at December 18, 2014 07:24 PM (cPPlg)

With a TA? Call him into your office, and kick his ass into next week. No need to waste time with the administration. A shitty letter in his jacket from you and his career is dog meat.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 07:28 PM (oKE6c)

123 If this professor felt this strongly about the teaching assistant's performance, then why not bring it up with superiors?

Because leftists can't be reasoned with.

Quote from blogpost in question:

The student first complained to the office of the Dean of Arts & Sciences, and talked to an Associate Dean, one Suzanne Foster. Foster sent the student to the Chair of the Philosophy Department, saying that department chairs usually handle such cases. The chair, Nancy Show, pretty much blew off the issue.

Letting students know about their institution's intellectual integrity is a public service.

Posted by: Rubber-banded Baby Lamb at December 18, 2014 07:29 PM (0NdlF)

124 Forgot to include the blogpost link:
http://mu-warrior.blogspot.in/2014/11/marquette-philosophy-instructor-gay.html

Posted by: Rubber-banded Baby Lamb at December 18, 2014 07:29 PM (0NdlF)

125
And so I climbed into the cab and then I settled down inside.
He asked me if I'd seen a road with so much dust and sand.

What's the song??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:30 PM (+cLwS)

126 Message from Dick Holz, dean of Klinger College?

Obviously made-up names. You've been trolled, professor. Go back to work.

Posted by: Edgar Allan Schmoe at December 18, 2014 07:31 PM (b9G3D)

127 110: Bingo. Go to a good trade school learn and learn a trade. Certified welders start at $40.00 an hour around here. This without the debt load a useless degree in political science carries. But, these precious little snowflakes would rather live in moms basement and piss and moan forever. When tshtf these little entitled shitbags will be screwed.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 07:31 PM (ucDmr)

128
"Yes you can. In the IT world anyway, certifications can work just
fine (CCNA, MCSE, etc). I'm speaking from personal experience anyway."

This is the drum Mike Rowe has been beating. Plenty of jobs out there in skilled labor for those who want them-- they're just not very glamorous.

Posted by: Filly at December 18, 2014 07:31 PM (ZWmKk)

129 111 I think that Barky will use this Sony Hack as a reason to take over more control of the Internet.

I think his string pullers masterminded the hack.

---------

You have to 'crucify' one, to make an example out of them.

Isn't that the O-credo?

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 07:31 PM (Dlofw)

130 I've been everywhere.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 07:31 PM (ZPrif)

131 >> Foster sent the student to the Chair of the Philosophy Department, saying that department chairs usually handle such cases. The chair told her she didn't have a leg to stand on.

Posted by: Uncle Bob at December 18, 2014 07:32 PM (3GFMN)

132
...man.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:32 PM (+cLwS)

133 "This without the debt load a useless degree in political science carries. "

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2014 07:32 PM (R8Md3)

134 Jizya or an indulgence?<<<<<<<<<<<

Protection money.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 07:32 PM (NtzGn)

135 This without the debt load a useless degree in political science carries.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 07:31 PM (ucDmr)

*ahem*

B.S PoliSci

Then again, I don't work in that field, either.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2014 07:33 PM (nL0sw)

136 Rats are 'taking over' Vogue's new World Trade Center officeVogue recently changed into 1 World Trade Center notwithstanding infestation

Staff told not to eat during their desks as 'droppings found on keyboards'

Anna Wintour 'not certain she wants to work there due to vermin'

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:33 PM (XzRw1)

137 Three distinct eras in academia.

1950s-1960s: the left insist upon campus "free speech" rights, in order to assist their agenda of gaining eventual control.

1970s-2000s: the Gramscian "Long March Through The Institutions". The left slowly and steadily leverage "free speech rights" to gain the upper hand on campuses. Faculty and administrative bodies come under nearly complete leftist control, as do curricula.

2000s-present-foreseeable future: the left begin to steadily extirpate free speech rights which might imperil their current tight grip of the campuses.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 07:33 PM (noWW6)

138 And no debt load.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2014 07:33 PM (nL0sw)

139 Anna Wintour 'not certain she wants to work there due to vermin'

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:33 PM (XzRw1)

Oh, the irony.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2014 07:33 PM (nL0sw)

140 Another effective way to deal with a TA: enter the classroom where he's got a section in progress, and stand at the back.

He'll get the message.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 07:34 PM (oKE6c)

141 Anna Wintour 'not certain she wants to work there due to vermin'
Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:33 PM (XzRw1)

Pot, kettle

Posted by: Uncle Bob at December 18, 2014 07:34 PM (3GFMN)

142 "Anna Wintour 'not certain she wants to work there due to vermin'"

We won't work anywhere around that bitch either.

We have _standards_.

Posted by: Vermin at December 18, 2014 07:34 PM (noWW6)

143 Oh my

Not that anybody cares, but, according to the hollywood reporter, whoppee Goldberg and Rosie O'Donnell got into a screaming match, their words, about racism

Goldberg said she thought the stories about target that the mooch told was not about racism and Rosie disagreed. And then whoppee said she would not be dictated to by a white lady about racism. And then the fur flew

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 07:34 PM (zOTsN)

144 *high five's country singer* Hey all those poli sci classes help us make high quality comments here, right? RIGHT? *sobs*

Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2014 07:34 PM (R8Md3)

145 Right, the Left championed Free Speech when they were the minority. Now that they are in charge they ruthlessly crush the minority.

Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a big enough rock.

The Left found their rock.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 07:34 PM (ZPrif)

146 What Exactly Has North Korea Done That Progressives Don't Do Every Single Day?

The progressives haven't thrown people they consider traitors to Dear Leader to hungry, live dogs.....yet

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 07:35 PM (Dj3AB)

147 The chair told her she didn't have a leg to stand on.

Posted by: Uncle Bob at December 18, 2014 07:32 PM (3GFMN)

So it was a one-legged chair?
Unless we're referring to the chairman, of course.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 07:35 PM (oKE6c)

148 127, 128: my cousin is a heavy machinery dude (backhoes, bulldozers, cranes, etc) and he is in high demand because he is a hard worker and very good at what he does. The key word is "worker".

Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 18, 2014 07:35 PM (20X6f)

149 And then the fur flew
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 07:34 PM (zOTsN)

That's an... Interesting choice of words

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 07:35 PM (lZ1M5)

150 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 07:01 PM (Dj3AB)

Nope, he needs to stay and fight - which is what he plans on doing. Apparently MU violated its own rules by doing this and he has excellent legal representation.
The left wins when conservatives just give up and move on. I hope he wins and I hope he embarrasses the hell out of them, the alumni stop writing checks and he gets a nice fat check from them.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands but not hot pink armpit hair) at December 18, 2014 07:36 PM (+XMAD)

151 "Which is basically...enslavement...Government Enslavement. "

Yes. This. That's the objective.

"Communism and Socialism are just euphemisms for Monarchy" - somebody said this in a thread (last week?), and it's still true.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2014 07:36 PM (OCcU9)

152 137 Three distinct eras in academia.

You missed one:

1970-1980: Marijuana and Queen wipe out any semblance of political dialogue

Posted by: Uncle Bob at December 18, 2014 07:36 PM (3GFMN)

153 The confederacy of dumbasses at this school can't possibly think this won't backfire on them, can they? This is a tenured professor whose First Amendment rights are clearly being trampled, and the school isn't going to have to come off some coin for it?

Posted by: UGAdawg at December 18, 2014 07:36 PM (c+vBe)

154 It wasn't taking a private dispute public.

The suspended prof read about the lecturer banning arguments for traditional marriage in the news. He then wrote a blog post on his blog where he blogs about stuff in the news.

He found out about the gay marriage brouhaha at Marquette the same way we did - from the news.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 07:37 PM (ZPrif)

155 "With a TA? Call him into your office, and kick his ass into next week. No need to waste time with the administration. A shitty letter in his jacket from you and his career is dog meat."

Um, male prof.

Lesbian female TA.

Not quite the pushover power gradient one might imagine.

Double tick in the "diversity" box.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 07:37 PM (noWW6)

156
Didn't Bloomberg, of all people, give a commencement speech last Summer about college campuses needing to be more tolerant?

I guess that message was not received.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:37 PM (+cLwS)

157 Goldberg said she thought the stories about target that the mooch told was not about racism and Rosie disagreed. And then whoppee said she would not be dictated to by a white lady about racism. And then the fur flew
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 07:34 PM (zOTsN)

You might want to rephrase that.

Posted by: Uncle Bob at December 18, 2014 07:38 PM (3GFMN)

158 154: That's where Fredo finds out everything.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 07:38 PM (ucDmr)

159 The fur stays

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 07:39 PM (zOTsN)

160 Rosie O'Donnell has also said that she wouldn't risk seeing the The Interview because of the 9/11-style attack threat. Which is kinda funny, considering she's a truther. Who exactly does she thing would attack the movie theater?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 07:39 PM (ABcz/)

161 Damn, Secundus. You're too fast for this old codger.

Posted by: Uncle Bob at December 18, 2014 07:39 PM (3GFMN)

162 Didn't Bloomberg, of all people, give a commencement speech last Summer about college campuses needing to be more tolerant?

... of the right people.

Posted by: Rubber-banded Baby Lamb at December 18, 2014 07:39 PM (0NdlF)

163 I've been painting all damn day and now that it's dry, surprise the paint company gave me flat paint, not semigloss and all that work has literally been useless. Did I mention I've had all 4 kids with me in an empty house?

Benefits of semigloss over flat? Few. I have this same argument with daughter with multiple sons. The glossier the paint the easier it is to see flaws. It's only 'slightly' easier to clean semigloss then flat. Buy some TSP and take a deep breath.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at December 18, 2014 07:39 PM (zxQ4h)

164 Posted by: Lauren at December 18, 2014 07:34 PM (R8Md3)

In my case it pretty well went like this:

Employer: We would really like it if you have a degree.

Me: In what?

Employer: We don't care, as long as you have a Bachelor's. We'll reimburse your tuition.

Me: If I finish that PoliSci degree I started in 1990, will that suffice? I mean, it's not anywhere near relevant to what I do.

Employer: We don't care what it's in. It's a degree and that boosts our "percentage of employees with at least a Bachelors."

Me: No problem! GI Bill plus company paid tuition reimbursement. No debt!

Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2014 07:39 PM (nL0sw)

165 Who exactly does she thing would attack the movie theater?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 07:39 PM (ABcz/)

Well, there's a gutsy stance and no mistake. She's refusing to watch the movie the studio isn't releasing?

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 07:40 PM (lZ1M5)

166
speaking of lambs...

is that pasty-ass Brian Lamb still on CSPAN?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:40 PM (+cLwS)

167 A historically men's Catholic university has an entire college named for a Jewish woman. I suspect that a politically correct agenda has been going on at Marquette for a few years now.

Posted by: bergerbilder at December 18, 2014 07:41 PM (8MjqI)

168 A law should be passed requiring all university professors to wear Mao jackets and that cap too.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2014 07:41 PM (oFCZn)

169 I think we should put women in charge of the universities. Then college life would be just one big "yes dear."

Posted by: Uncle Bob at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (3GFMN)

170 Who exactly does she thing would attack the movie theater?
___
Robo Dick Cheney.

Have you see the size of his weapon?

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (5DM9u)

171 Who exactly does she thing would attack the movie theater?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 07:39 PM (ABcz/)

Well, there's a gutsy stance and no mistake. She's refusing to watch the movie the studio isn't releasing?
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 07:40 PM (lZ1M5)

To add: I want everyone to know I refuse to sleep with Jessica Biel. Nuh-uh. You can't make me.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (lZ1M5)

172 When Whoopi Goldberg is making more sense than you are, it's time to shut up.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands but not hot pink armpit hair) at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (+XMAD)

173 Rosie said she is raising a black child and has an equal say in what is racism. Whoppee said she is not black herself, and therefore cannot trump what Whoppee says is racism

FTR whoppee said the target thing was not racism

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (zOTsN)

174
this is why I liked THE GIVER so much

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (+cLwS)

175 >>Well, there's a gutsy stance and no mistake. She's refusing to watch the movie the studio isn't releasing?

This was before the movie was puled.
Just thought it was funny, her reacting to a threat based on what she considers a hoax, an inside job. I mean, does she think it's a US government plot against Sony or something?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (ABcz/)

176 You're right, Donna. He should stay and fight. That was my initial reaction-just get away from the people trying to make his life so miserable.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (Dj3AB)

177 168: That cap is quite dapper.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (ucDmr)

178 I think that Barky will use this Sony Hack as a reason to take over more control of the Internet.

An Alex Jones type might even postulate that a group close to Barky actually did the hacking for this very purpose.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2014 07:43 PM (W5DcG)

179 Until conservatives do something about the left's continued outrages they will continue.

Has anyone asked Gov Walker what he will do? We need a leader for 2016. It is time that someone shows they have a backbone.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2014 07:43 PM (5DM9u)

180 Rosie said she is raising a black child and has an equal say in what is racism.
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (zOTsN)

That kid is going to be effed up

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 07:44 PM (lZ1M5)

181 A law should be passed requiring all university professors to wear Mao jackets and that cap too.

And the Little Red Book.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at December 18, 2014 07:45 PM (Dwehj)

182 "The Student Loan program has been one long Government Bailout. It has to stop."

Stop? Sheesh. It's about to get infinitely worse.

Look at Liz Warren carefully.

One of the most dangerous poison arrows in Lieawatha's quiver is that she is essentially proposing to, as President, write off all of the federalized student loans on the books, which is the overwhelming majority of them now.

Don't underestimate the political traction that would have with a bunch of debt-sodden snowflakes who are realizing they've totally boned their own lifetime economic prospects in exchange for worthless degrees in Whatever Studies.

Waving a "fresh start" in front of them could help take Warren all the way into the White House.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 07:45 PM (noWW6)

183 What Exactly Has North Korea Done That Progressives Don't Do Every Single Day?

The left wants North Korea's society. Oh, as they will tell you, they'll run it better. But make no mistake, this is where their unmitigated drive for power is going. And they know it and do not care.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2014 07:46 PM (5DM9u)

184 Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (ABcz/)

Ok, I wasn't aware.

But you're right, it's still funny. I wonder if she has nightmares of MechanoDickCheney chasing her

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 07:46 PM (lZ1M5)

185 Rosie said she is raising a black child and has an equal say in what is racism.

The new phone books are here!

Posted by: Navin Johnson at December 18, 2014 07:46 PM (Dwehj)

186 My brother (ahem) has a faculty position, although not in the undergraduate campus. Although he is politically conservative and is generally known as such, he usually does not push a conservative agenda in his official capacity. The Newtown kneejerk gun grab was one notable exception. There has not been any official blowback from any conservative comments, but he knows to play it close to the vest. On his personal time he is pretty much a wise ass.

Posted by: Elvis Muldoon at December 18, 2014 07:47 PM (NeFrd)

187 146
What Exactly Has North Korea Done That Progressives Don't Do Every Single Day?

I haven't heard about a US citizen strapped to a stake and then mortared to death.

Then there are the machine gun squads that cut grandparents in half.

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:48 PM (XzRw1)

188 "Has anyone asked Gov Walker what he will do? We need a leader for 2016. It is time that someone shows they have a backbone."

The last guy from Wisconsin who was on a national ticket turned out to have anything *but* a backbone.

Getting crudely pushed around by borderline-retard Joey Choo-Choo on national television, sheesh.

Perhaps Walker is made of tougher stuff. Gonna have to see proof.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 07:48 PM (noWW6)

189 Ugh, they actually argued who had more race cred, and therefore, more moral authority in judging cases of supposed racism? What an ugly, progressive spectacle. Glad it was caught on tape for all to see just how silly this all has become.

Maybe if they came up with some victim class point system, so we could finally understand the whole victim/grievance hierarchy - maybe even have people proudly wear their victim total points value so that we could settle these things more quickly.....

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 07:48 PM (ABcz/)

190 Marquette is a bit distant from liberal land Its freakin Jesuit

Posted by: righter at December 18, 2014 07:49 PM (aR91B)

191 There has not been any official blowback from any conservative comments, but he knows to play it close to the vest.
***
If you could go back in time to say 1992, and tell people that within a couple of decades we would be lionizing pedophiles like Harvey Milk and conservatives would have to closet themselves I wonder what the average politically aware individual would say?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2014 07:49 PM (5DM9u)

192 Fire can't melt steel.

Posted by: Navin Johnson at December 18, 2014 07:49 PM (Dwehj)

193 Waving a "fresh start" in front of them could help take Warren all the way into the White House.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 07:45 PM (noWW6)

Okay, so who actually holds the note on all that debt? The Feds?

So if it IS written off, what happens? Fed revenues drop, right? Plus what used to be a performing asset, or whatever they're called, suddenly gets zeroed out.

Dollar undoubtedly takes a hit. I'm not good at this. I bolt pipes together for a living.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 07:49 PM (lZ1M5)

194 And the U of Michigan Prof that had a screed about HATING Republicans will get................a raise most likely. Higher Ed is a fucking cesspool filled of a group think ideology and close minded fascists.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 18, 2014 06:54 PM

^ OK, that's why I come here, someone usually has already said what I'm going to say. Saves time by not having to post.

Posted by: Farmer at December 18, 2014 07:50 PM (o/90i)

195 I haven't heard about a US citizen strapped to a stake and then mortared to death.

Then there are the machine gun squads that cut grandparents in half.

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:48 PM (XzRw1)

SOON

Posted by: Berkeley Bolsheviks at December 18, 2014 07:50 PM (lN8KC)

196 Dollar undoubtedly takes a hit. I'm not good at this. I bolt pipes together for a living.
***
Basically as the government takes on more debt, every asset that individuals hold becomes worth less. It is taxation by inflation, and the left is banking on 51% of the population being too stupid to notice.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2014 07:51 PM (5DM9u)

197 Vote for us! With the House, and maybe also the Senate, we'll be able to stop Pres. Warren's illegal executive actions...

... right after we finally get a settlement on our law suit of former Pres. Obama's illegal actions. That should be coming, any year now...

Posted by: GOP monkeys, fucking a football at December 18, 2014 07:51 PM (qfd4W)

198 the left is banking on 51% of the population being too stupid to notice.
Posted by: 18-1

Safe bet.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 18, 2014 07:52 PM (V70Ne)

199 190
Marquette is a bit distant from liberal land Its freakin Jesuit

I graduated from a Jesuit university. Many Jesuit's are commies.

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:52 PM (XzRw1)

200 Jesuits were famous for their investigations during the Inquisition
These really don't seem to be progressives

Posted by: righter at December 18, 2014 07:52 PM (aR91B)

201 Many Jesuit's are commies.

Posted by: Pete Sakes at December 18, 2014 07:52 PM (XzRw1)

A few excommunications will fix that...

Posted by: Pope Francis at December 18, 2014 07:53 PM (lN8KC)

202 Jesuits are super liberal. See Georgetown

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 07:53 PM (zOTsN)

203 Once upon a time, Marquette's mascot was the "Warriors". It's Wisconsin after all, and there were/still are native americans in the state.

They are now the Golden Eagles.

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 07:53 PM (l9mF2)

204 I graduated from a Jesuit university. Many Jesuit's are commies.
Posted by: Pete Sakes

See: the marxist currently in Rome.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 18, 2014 07:54 PM (V70Ne)

205 Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2014 07:43 PM (5DM9u)

Marquette is a private university, not a state school. I don't think there is much Walker can do about it.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands but not hot pink armpit hair) at December 18, 2014 07:54 PM (+XMAD)

206 204: That Marxist in Rome probably ran with Che back in the day.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 07:56 PM (ucDmr)

207
The big headline on drudge right now is about the IRS protecting their own paychecks.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 07:56 PM (NtzGn)

208 To the surprise of no one, Brian Williams's show tonight did a propaganda bit for Cuba, having a reporter there drive around with a tour guide in a restored (and admittedly beautiful) candy apple red Bel-Air and talking to people happy to end the embargo. And you will not be surprised it is blatant and pandering.

Posted by: LizLem at December 18, 2014 07:57 PM (LiMbk)

209 180
Rosie said she is raising a black child and has an equal say in what is racism.

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 07:42 PM (zOTsN)

That kid is going to be effed up

Rosie's oldest adopted child is Parker, who is now a student at the Citadel. She was apparently furious that he wanted to attend there and later serve in the military.

I wonder what life is like for poor Parker O'Donnell at the Citadel. Hazing was probably a relief after life under that hag Rosie's roof.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2014 07:58 PM (FsuaD)

210 Yeah that's why they were called God's Soldiers or God's Marines

Posted by: righter at December 18, 2014 07:59 PM (aR91B)

211 Oh, please. The Pope is not a Marxist. If he were a Marxist he would not believe in the foundational RC beliefs that he does.He would not believe Jesus is Lord. He would not believe in the real presence in the Eucharist . He would not believe in heaven. He is influenced by his background and is more politically liberal than previous Popes, but lets not mischaracterize him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 07:59 PM (Dj3AB)

212 "A law should be passed requiring all university professors to wear Mao jackets and that cap too.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis"

It seems only fair. Maybe extend it to all government employees, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2014 08:00 PM (OCcU9)

213 182 "The Student Loan program has been one long Government Bailout. It has to stop."

Stop? Sheesh. It's about to get infinitely worse.

Look at Liz Warren carefully.

One of the most dangerous poison arrows in Lieawatha's quiver is that she is essentially proposing to, as President, write off all of the federalized student loans on the books, which is the overwhelming majority of them now.

Don't underestimate the political traction that would have with a bunch of debt-sodden snowflakes who are realizing they've totally boned their own lifetime economic prospects in exchange for worthless degrees in Whatever Studies.

Waving a "fresh start" in front of them could help take Warren all the way into the White House.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 07:45 PM (noWW6)

I've been saying this and also how her message about Wall Street very well could gain significant traction with wide swathes of the electorate. People are still pissed as hell about Wall Street and her nostrums will resonate.

People sniff at her but she's dangerous.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2014 08:01 PM (oFCZn)

214 Jesuits wouldn't even let anyone into their society until 1946 who EVER had a Jewish relative

Posted by: righter at December 18, 2014 08:01 PM (aR91B)

215 Hey folks the original 1938 version of A Christmas Carol is on TCM right now.

Loving it.

Posted by: spypeach at December 18, 2014 08:01 PM (/vbEv)

216 Just fyi - Gov Walker of Wisconsin attended Marquette but did not finish his degree.

That was one of many items that stuck in the left's craw when he passed his budget repair plan - that he dared to tell college grads how their compensation should be structured.

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 08:01 PM (l9mF2)

217 And the U of Michigan Prof that had a screed about HATING Republicans will get................a raise most likely.

Don't forget the applause for being "brave" and "speaking truth to power"

Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2014 08:02 PM (w32Yh)

218 Um, male prof.

Lesbian female TA.

Not quite the pushover power gradient one might imagine.

Double tick in the "diversity" box.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 07:37 PM (noWW6)
Good point. I hadn't read the article.
Still, I'd call her in, and ask her for her side of the story, and speak generically about the requirements of a TA, being careful not to say anything quotable.

Then I'd drop in on her sections. Repeatedly. And not say a word.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 08:02 PM (oKE6c)

219
the 1965 Magoo version of A Christmas Carol is still excellent

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 18, 2014 08:02 PM (+cLwS)

220 It's beginning to look a lot like Cuba, everywhere I go.

Posted by: Navin Johnson at December 18, 2014 08:03 PM (Dwehj)

221 I'm getting ready to hit "Unbroken" (the book) again tonight. I can't believe it's taken me so long to get around to it. I want to read it before I see the movie.

I keep a stack of books on my bedside table that I'm working through. Then I hand them off to my husband.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2014 08:04 PM (FsuaD)

222 'Night, all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2014 08:04 PM (FsuaD)

223 and look at their strong connections to Opus Dei
I mean if you think the Jesuits are commies ......... who isn't?

Posted by: righter at December 18, 2014 08:04 PM (aR91B)

224 213
People sniff at her but she's dangerous.
-------------------------------------------------

Since the Wall St boys fund the presidential campaigns of democrats, exactly who will be funding Liawatha? The special snowflakes who want their student loans to disappear don't have the kind of money to donate that she needs,

Or will she Lie to the students, and lie to the Wall St. boys? So basically another Obama?

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 08:04 PM (l9mF2)

225 When I was there back in the day, the school was actually considered fairly conservative, at least when compared with the reeducation camp in Madison. The Jesuits were liberal, but I don't remember them mixing politics with academics much. The only hard-core lefty I remember was a Western Civ TA who sang the praises of Communism. When I pointed out that Communism didn't seem to work so good in the real world, he gave me a condescending little smile and said, "It hasn't been tried yet."

Yeah, he was a dick. But he didn't dock my grade or kick me out of the class because he didn't like what I said. And the curriculum was still heavy on the Dead White Males of Western Civ - the Shakespeare class I took was outstanding. And I have no idea what that professor's political beliefs were or how he felt about gays or the GOP or abortion or anything - because he just talked about Shakespeare.

The place has changed, that's for sure. I'm glad I was an undergrad before PC had taken over. When I went back to grad school (George Washington U) 10 years later, the rot had set in.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands but not hot pink armpit hair) at December 18, 2014 08:05 PM (+XMAD)

226 "using a tactic typical among liberals," in which opinions they disagree with "are not merely wrong, and are not to be argued against on their merits, but are deemed 'offensive' and need to be shut up."

WORD.

Posted by: Nazi's at December 18, 2014 08:05 PM (HRo7B)

227 Thanks, spypeach, got it on here too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2014 08:05 PM (OCcU9)

228 Even the vultures won't pick at this rotting carcass.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb (Draft Sheriff Clarke '16) at December 18, 2014 08:06 PM (BZAd3)

229 I'm getting ready to hit "Unbroken" (the book) again tonight.

You won't be able to put it down. Enjoy.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at December 18, 2014 08:06 PM (Dwehj)

230 MY favorite "Christmas Carol" is 1951 with Alistair Sim
I was at a meeting the other day when the speaker asked us about favorite Christians traditions. I said "It's a tradition to have Alistair Sim 's version of the story. It's not my favorite part of it, however, to have FenelonSpouse say most of the lines before they actually happen. That part of it is a tradition I could do without. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 08:07 PM (Dj3AB)

231 Pope really doesn't seem to like capitalism.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 08:07 PM (ZPrif)

232 Since the Wall St boys fund the presidential campaigns of democrats, exactly who will be funding Liawatha?

The Wall St. boys. Duh.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 08:08 PM (oKE6c)

233 219 the 1965 Magoo version of A Christmas Carol is still excellent
--------------------------------------------

I loved that one! Wasn't Magoo's voice done by Thurston Howell the Third from Gilligans Islsnd?

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 08:08 PM (l9mF2)

234 righter, I'm a Roman Catholic and I've studied church history for years. You are badly mistaken about the Jesuit order. There are some decent Jesuits still but the order overall is a sink of dissent and yes, Socialist sympathy.

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 08:09 PM (5dip8)

235 If you need to have an opinion, the professor will issue one to you!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 18, 2014 08:09 PM (fL/7/)

236 Jim Backus.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at December 18, 2014 08:09 PM (Dwehj)

237 We could probably provide electricity to the entire world just by hooking up the spinning corpses of those who signed the Declaration of Independence to a crude generator.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 18, 2014 08:11 PM (wBwCW)

238 Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 08:08 PM (l9mF2)

Magoo is good too. I still remember the undertaker and the washerwoman and some other crook singing
"La, La. la la la la la"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 08:11 PM (Dj3AB)

239 223 and look at their strong connections to Opus Dei

Huh? I'm not aware of any Jesuit-Opus Dei connections. Opus Dei is relatively new compared to the Society of Jesus and is quite conservative. The Jesuits certainly are not -not since Vatican II at least.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands but not hot pink armpit hair) at December 18, 2014 08:12 PM (+XMAD)

240 Yay thank you Hans Gruber - Jim Backus was the actor who's name I couldn't quite remember.

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 08:12 PM (l9mF2)

241 >>> I loved that one! Wasn't Magoo's voice done by Thurston Howell the Third from Gilligans Islsnd?

IMDB confirms it was Jim Backus.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2014 08:12 PM (qnnKk)

242 The best version of The Christmas Carol is "Blackadder's Christmas Carol." So much awesomeness.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 18, 2014 08:12 PM (V70Ne)

243 231 Pope really doesn't seem to like capitalism.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 08:07 PM (ZPrif)

Liberation Theology breaks out of South America!

Posted by: MikeH at December 18, 2014 08:13 PM (4OZqu)

244 242 The best version of The Christmas Carol is "Blackadder's Christmas Carol." So much awesomeness.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 18, 2014 08:12 PM (V70Ne)

"I have a cunning plan!"

Posted by: MikeH at December 18, 2014 08:14 PM (4OZqu)

245 The best version of The Christmas Carol is "Blackadder's Christmas Carol." So much awesomeness.

I could watch them all, longing for simpler times...

Posted by: spypeach at December 18, 2014 08:14 PM (/vbEv)

246 Opus Dei is a pro-traditional Roman Catholic organization.

The Jesuits are off on the far left side of socialism/progressiveism and commiedom.

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 08:14 PM (l9mF2)

247 I wonder what life is like for poor Parker O'Donnell
at the Citadel. Hazing was probably a relief after life under that hag
Rosie's roof.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2014 07:58 PM (FsuaD)

My hope is that he found a home in the Corps!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 18, 2014 08:15 PM (fL/7/)

248 Posted by: GOP monkeys, fucking a football at December 18, 2014 07:51 PM (qfd4W)

And best of all, if we elect Republican majorities in the Congress and control the White House for a couple of terms, then we 'll begin to straighten out this Constitutional crisis, swearsies!

Posted by: Hrothgar GOPe Spokesliar at December 18, 2014 08:17 PM (fL/7/)

249 *ahem*
B.S PoliSci
Then again, I don't work in that field, either.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 18, 2014 07:33 PM

Same here. Tho I do work in my minor field, history. I wonder if PoliSci majors are over represented here vs the general population? I suspect so.

Posted by: Farmer at December 18, 2014 08:18 PM (o/90i)

250 I didn't know about Parker O'Donnell. Good on him.

Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 08:19 PM (lZ1M5)

251 I find when people use the word "trigger" out of context (gun or Roy Rogers references are both acceptable) in that leftist speech shutdown thing that gives me flashbacks and basically feels like I'm being bored all over again.

Posted by: dirks strewn at December 18, 2014 08:20 PM (TIgJq)

252 "IMDB confirms it was Jim Backus."

-"What can go wrong with an Old Fashion?"

Posted by: Corona at December 18, 2014 08:21 PM (fh2Y7)

253 "And best of all, if we elect Republican majorities in the Congress and control the White House for a couple of terms, then we 'll begin to straighten out this Constitutional crisis, swearsies!"

Wow ! Really ? My hope in the future is restored ! Yay !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2014 08:21 PM (OCcU9)

254 250 I didn't know about Parker O'Donnell. Good on him.
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 08:19 PM (lZ1M5)

Ah, I wish every lefty with kids would have the same thing happen to them - that their little darlings would rebel against them by joining the military, voting for conservatives, reading Mark Steyn, dissing Obama... oh the tears and wailing "Where did we go wrong?"

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands but not hot pink armpit hair) at December 18, 2014 08:24 PM (+XMAD)

255 Jesuits are also extremely political. They used to be the most intellectual. Now they are the most liberal

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 08:26 PM (zOTsN)

256 Jesuits created the theological underpinning for "Liberation Theology ". Remember Jeremiah wright?

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 08:29 PM (zOTsN)

257 John Paul II recognized liberation theology as commie clap trap,and condemned it and told the Jesuits to settle down. Well, now one of them is pope

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 08:30 PM (zOTsN)

258 Well, the US hasn't got laogai for those who don't respect their authoritah.

It just has prisons where you get raped in the ass.

We're clearly more civilised than those North Koreans.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 08:33 PM (AVEe1)

259 Remember Jeremiah wright?

Posted by: ThunderB

Jeremiah Wright isn't even Catholic.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 18, 2014 08:33 PM (wr4LJ)

260 Yes I know but he borrowed some aspects of liberation theology from the Jesuits. Remember the defrocked catholic priest he pals around with

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 08:34 PM (zOTsN)

261 >>Ah, I wish every lefty with kids would have the same thing happen to
them - that their little darlings would rebel against them by joining
the military...

My nephew did this. My SIL is a hippy-dippy boomer artist (sweet, not rabid) and her son, who was always spazzy and undisciplined decided to enlist rather than go to college. Kid had the good sense to understand that he needed an environment with boundaries, that fostered self-discipline, etc.. He's doing great, and SIL came around because she sees how much he's matured.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2014 08:34 PM (ABcz/)

262 Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 08:30 PM (zOTsN)
*****
Pope John Pauls trip to central and South America in the late 70's was a thing of beauty. His dressing down of the marxist Priests.... publically was awesome. Needed to be done.

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at December 18, 2014 08:36 PM (jucos)

263 Father Pflager

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 08:36 PM (zOTsN)

264 John Paul iI was the last real pope.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 08:38 PM (ucDmr)

265 Pflager is a jesuit

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 08:38 PM (zOTsN)

266 odd

The literary sources of Haven Monahan’s glitch in the matrix email www.unz.com/isteve/the-literary-sources-of-haven-monahans-glitch-in-the-matrix-email/

Chuck Ross at the Daily Caller got an email from a reader pointing out that one section of UVA dream date / gang rapist / figment of Jackie’s imagination Haven Monahan’s Glitch in The Matrix email received by Jackie’s crush Ryan/”Randall” five days after theoretically organizing Jackie’s mass violation was lifted from an old Dawson’s Creek TV episode.

More Googling reveals that much of the email is a pastiche of lines lifted from sentimental websites.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 08:38 PM (ZPrif)

267 230 MY favorite "Christmas Carol" is 1951 with Alistair Sim
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 08:07 PM (Dj3AB)

Grew up with it, wonderful movie. As I got older and more curmudgeonly I began to get a little cranky about the arbitrary deviations from the original story. Not sure why movie people feel they have to reimagine great tales, as if they could improve on them.

Posted by: Uncle Bob at December 18, 2014 08:38 PM (3GFMN)

268 230 MY favorite "Christmas Carol" is 1951 with Alistair Sim

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2014 08:07 PM (Dj3AB)

Mine, too. It's very atmospheric.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 08:38 PM (sdi6R)

269 False. Please don't this myth.
Posted by: Filly

Thank you.

/I'm agnostic so not necessarily pro- every Catholic statement in every century, but I'm a lot less pro-bullsh!t

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 08:39 PM (AVEe1)

270 263. It's Father Michael Pfleger of Chicago.

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 08:40 PM (5dip8)

271 Now is the time when I tell my communist joke. Well, one of them, anyway.

*Ahem*

Unlike in Capitalism, Communist countries understand that people really are their greatest resource.

That's why they won't let them leave.

Posted by: Lewis at December 18, 2014 08:41 PM (r+YX+)

272 "The Devil Wears Prada" really was one of the best Streep movies. Probably *the* best movie about the fashion world.

walks away from smouldering ManCard, lets it explode behind me

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 08:41 PM (AVEe1)

273 MY favorite "Christmas Carol" is 1951 with Alistair Sim

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
---------------

Hands down the best. I have it on DVD, I also re-read the story every Christmas. Restores perspective.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2014 08:42 PM (/GgDU)

274 That's it

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 08:43 PM (zOTsN)

275 Rosie's oldest adopted child is Parker, who is now a student at the Citadel. She was apparently furious that he wanted to attend there and later serve in the military.

That's fantastic.If she adopts any more, she'll give us a whole Tea Party.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 08:43 PM (b4b5c)

276
260 Yes I know but he borrowed some aspects of liberation theology from the Jesuits. Remember the defrocked catholic priest he pals around with
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 08:34 PM (zOTsN)

Ah yes pfather pfleger.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 18, 2014 08:44 PM (z/Ubi)

277 Damn it. There is a football game on tonight that should draw 10's of viewers.

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at December 18, 2014 08:44 PM (jucos)

278 "I wear the chain I forged in life," replied the Ghost. "I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it. Is its pattern strange to you?"
Scrooge trembled more and more.
"Or would you know," pursued the Ghost, "the weight and length of the strong coil you bear yourself? It was full as heavy and as long as this, seven Christmas Eves ago. You have laboured on it since. It is a ponderous chain!"

Just saying....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2014 08:44 PM (/GgDU)

279 Eh, I'll re-laminate your man card, boulder toilet hobo; that was a good flick.

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 08:44 PM (5dip8)

280 >>"McAdams's position and Abbate's status imply a kind of sacred relationship between the two," Buck said via email. Yet "McAdams did nothing to help Abbate grow as a person, [and] instead he did everything to stomp her down as a person. He didn't just violate the trust implied in the special relationship, he made a public mockery of it."

He violated the sacred honor, uh, sacred relationship between a professor and a TA.

*faints*

Public mockery of a special relationship?

*faints again*

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 18, 2014 08:44 PM (0xTsz)

281 The people who are enabling Abbate not to "grow as a person" are those standing between Abbate's professional conduct and the consequences of that conduct.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 08:47 PM (AVEe1)

282 Corporations and parents keep this college degree circus in place.

It can't go on forever.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 08:48 PM (MQEz6)

283 276 Ah yes pfather pfleger.
--------------------------------------

Unfortunately Pfather Pfleger has not been defrocked. He is still a priest in the Chicago Archdiocese, and with the new Bishop in town (Cardinal George retired - new Bishop is a leftie from Seattle) Pfleger's stock is higher than ever.

Posted by: Boots at December 18, 2014 08:49 PM (l9mF2)

284 "McAdams did nothing to help Abbate grow as a person, [and] instead he did everything to stomp her down as a person."

That's bad?

Somebody apparently has never been to boot camp.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 18, 2014 08:50 PM (yxw0r)

285 Father Pfleger, Louis Farrakhan, Frank Marshall Davis, stir, shake, voila! a Rev. Wright hate shake.

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 08:50 PM (5dip8)

286 Corporations and parents keep this college degree circus in place.

It can't go on forever.

That's why the left is so desperate to make college loans dischargeable via bankruptcy. Rinse, repeat.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 08:51 PM (IJCgF)

287 It can't go on forever.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 08:48 PM (MQEz6)
********
I think that the bubble is close to popping now. 30k a year for a mid level university is too much. Who can afford it with this economy in depression

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at December 18, 2014 08:53 PM (jucos)

288 "walks away from smouldering ManCard, lets it explode behind me"

The then-girlfriend rented it one time years ago and sat down watching it. I was in the room but not all that interested, working or playing on the internet. I began to start picking up on the dialogue, then I started paying attention to it. Before I knew it I was sitting there watching it with her.

It is a good movie. Something I had zero interest in and was trying to ignore completely grabbed my attention and held it for two hours.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 08:54 PM (BNIaE)

289 Universities got this far by marketing their product as vital to getting a job.

Next they should market their product as vital to our country. Maybe put a Blue Eagle on the diploma. That should do the trick.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 18, 2014 08:54 PM (xWPj1)

290 Posted by: Mama AJ at December 18, 2014 08:44 PM (0xTsz)

"...Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. Unless someone hurts our feelings. Then we're totally unfriending all you h8ters."

Posted by: The Founding Cishets at December 18, 2014 08:56 PM (lZ1M5)

291 "There is a football game on tonight that should draw 10's of viewers."

Titties and Jag-offs. Epic suck.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 08:57 PM (BNIaE)

292 Next they should market their product as vital to our country. Maybe put a Blue Eagle on the diploma.

Hammer & sickle.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 08:59 PM (IJCgF)

293 Titties and Jag-offs

Sounds like a bad porno. With those two teams, they'd be sure to miss the target at that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, texans fan at December 18, 2014 09:00 PM (AVEe1)

294 Anyway I'm at the stage of the Houston calendar where the rallying cry is "gee, I wonder how the Rockets are doing"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, texans fan at December 18, 2014 09:01 PM (AVEe1)

295 I have a question on the Cuba trade...

One of the Cubans traded was in Jail, on a Lifetime sentence....

Did Obama Pardon him? Because if not, he did not have the Constitutional, or LEGAL Authority, to essentially release him.

GITMO detainees, as 'Prisoners of War' are under his authority... as Commander in Chief... but this guy was a Civilian...

So.... just how does Obama get off trading this guy, WITHOUT a Pardon?

Because, it sounds to me like Obama just engineered a Jail Break.

Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 18, 2014 09:01 PM (f0pWu)

296 That's bad?

Somebody apparently has never been to boot camp.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 18, 2014 08:50 PM (yxw0r)

My thoughts as well. Jesus, THAT'S bad to you? Where the hell were you raised... in a Nerf house?

Posted by: The Founding Cishets at December 18, 2014 09:01 PM (lZ1M5)

297 Because, it sounds to me like Obama just engineered a Jail Break.
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 18, 2014 09:01 PM (f0pWu)

Who's gonna stop me? You?

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 18, 2014 09:03 PM (lZ1M5)

298 My favorite two little speeches in Devil Wears Prada are when. Stanley Tucci tells her to get over herself, she was lucky to have the job and she needed to improve or get canned. And the speech by Meryl Streep when they were discussing a layout and the Andy character thought it was stupid and she was above it all

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 09:03 PM (zOTsN)

299 272 "The Devil Wears Prada" really was one of the best Streep movies. Probably *the* best movie about the fashion world.

walks away from smouldering ManCard, lets it explode behind me

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 08:41 PM (AVEe1)

You are OK.... just tell people you were... doing research.... on the opposition...

Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 18, 2014 09:03 PM (f0pWu)

300 Prada is about a special snowflake getting her first real job

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 09:04 PM (zOTsN)

301 286 Corporations and parents keep this college degree circus in place.

It can't go on forever.

That's why the left is so desperate to make college loans dischargeable via bankruptcy. Rinse, repeat.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 08:51 PM (IJCgF)

That's a one trillion dollar bomb.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 09:04 PM (MQEz6)

302 So the bowl games begin on Saturday. Are we gonna get our yahoo bowl pick em league?

Posted by: Buzzion at December 18, 2014 09:04 PM (z/Ubi)

303 Alright, none of my fellow mackerel-snappers want to play. But Chavez the Hugo, why was JPII the last real Pope? Now, I've thought about the Pius XII theory, the Pius X theory, etc. but never have I heard a trad who would claim JPII yet jettison Benedict XVI. What am I missing here?

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 09:05 PM (5dip8)

304 "Prada is about a special snowflake getting her first real job"

It's really not so much a fashion movie as it is a business movie. And Streep is one wicked badass businesswoman.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 09:06 PM (BNIaE)

305 That's a one trillion dollar bomb.

Toss it on the unfunded liabilities pile. One more can't hurt. /s

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 09:07 PM (IJCgF)

306 I hated the Andy characters friends and boyfriend who gave her shit about doing her job and making fun of it

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 09:08 PM (zOTsN)

307 Maybe because Benedict XVI quit, and quit before grooming a successor who was up to the job at that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 09:08 PM (AVEe1)

308 Okay, my other communist joke is actually a Cold War joke, and goes something like this:

A Soviet general and a U.S. general are at some b.s. conference or other, and they get to bragging about their troops and their preparedness for war.

The Soviet general says, "For rations, our soldiers in the field get 2500 calories a day."

The U.S. general replies, "Why, the U.S. soldier in the field gets 3500 calories a day."

The Soviet general, incredulous, responds, "That's impossible! No one can eat that many beets."

Posted by: Lewis at December 18, 2014 09:12 PM (r+YX+)

309 307: Beat me to it.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 09:12 PM (ucDmr)

310 That's why the left is so desperate to make college loans dischargeable via bankruptcy. Rinse, repeat.

Let's not be too quick to dismiss their arguments.

Posted by: Stanford Oliver Cantor-Koch at December 18, 2014 09:14 PM (cfLE7)

311 Yes, BXVI's abdication was and still is a shock, to me anyway. Bergoglio had gotten the second- highest number of votes at the 2005 Papal election too, so Benedict was not unaware of what would happen after he abdicated the office.
But JPII was less a doctrinally-traditional Catholic than many think, though he was not as leftist as many prelates. He did many things that angered (reasonably, in my opinion) believing Catholics.
Overly elastic ecumenism, sometimes to the point of religious indifferentism, was the biggest complaint.

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 09:17 PM (5dip8)

312 If you are an Alistair Sim fan check out "Green for Danger". He plays a detective investigating a murder in a hospital in WWII Britain. He has a wonderfully ghoulish attitude toward his job.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at December 18, 2014 09:19 PM (M6Vhk)

313 I got a million of'em. Don't make me prove it.

Posted by: Lewis at December 18, 2014 09:20 PM (r+YX+)

314 Very late to the thread- but in the matter of Sony vs NK :

I don't believe there ever was a terrorist security threat issued, no Fed security agencies seem concerned ( to my knowledge anyway)-

What they DO have is a hacked cache of exec email. I think they caught a BIG fish of sorts to be released with the release of the movie - that's why Paramont caved too.

This has nothing to do with security and everything to do with a bunch of preening weasels covering themselves.

Posted by: Daisy at December 18, 2014 09:21 PM (bYST5)

315 Why would anyone even question the validity of gay marriage. An ancient institution that's been with us since before Obama in a couple states.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 18, 2014 09:22 PM (06U11)

316 Actually, I think student loans should be dischargeable by bankruptcy. Otherwise it's a form of debt slavery.

This presumes that the banks who made the loans and the colleges who accepted them as payment are left holding the bag in case of default, and there is no government bailout. This would keep banks on their toes as far as who they loan money to, and the colleges as far as who they accept as students.

Of course, this further presupposes that there are no affirmative action policies declaring that everybody has a "right" to higher education, no matter their academic achievement or ability to pay.

My fantasy world is a very pretty place. I also hope Santa brings me a unicorn for Christmas.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 09:29 PM (sdi6R)

317 I like the idea that the university be on the hook for a portion of the student-loan, if the student can't pay.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 09:30 PM (AVEe1)

318 This has nothing to do with security and everything to do with a bunch of preening weasels covering themselves.

You misspelled "terrified paedophiles"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 09:31 PM (AVEe1)

319 Ohferchrissakes, you Catholics. The last two thousand years of Popes have turned up some real characters, you've had guys who made the Kardashians look sane.

You may not have had anything truly exciting in the Bishopric of Rome for a while, and granted this one looks to be a little less than optimal, but in the Popery Continuuum he's nowhere near the fringes.

Posted by: JEM at December 18, 2014 09:31 PM (o+SC1)

320 I've been watching part 1 of Ascension for a few minutes now, and there have been no hints of megalodons or giant octopii yet.

Is this really a SyFy movie?

Posted by: I'll settle for a Nazi Doomtrooper! at December 18, 2014 09:33 PM (klIaI)

321 When Pope Benedict resigned I thought he was at death's door or something. But he's still hale & healthy, right?
Maybe it really was a coup.

Posted by: @votermom at December 18, 2014 09:36 PM (cbfNE)

322 JEM, sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah,we've had some real beauts as Pope (hello, Borgias!) but there is a real argument that a doctrine/pastoral approach rupture is breaking out by design under Pope Francis. This isn't the place for that argument, I know, so I'll take it elsewhere. Again, though, you really don't know the history and implications of the problem.

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 09:38 PM (5dip8)

323 " But he's still hale healthy, right?"

Well, he's 87.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 09:39 PM (BNIaE)

324 319 JEM

Art thou familiar with physically impossible acts?

Posted by: seamrog at December 18, 2014 09:39 PM (VzM5r)

325 The U.S. Census Bureau statistics tell us that there are at least 151,671 different last names and 5,163 different first names in common use in the United States. Some names are more common than others. There are 46,191 people named John Smith in the United States.

Posted by: Smith, John NMI at December 18, 2014 09:40 PM (/f+7g)

326 87 is not that old by Papal standards. It's usually like SCOTUS - stay til you drop dead.

Posted by: @votermom at December 18, 2014 09:41 PM (cbfNE)

327 I read the full article at the link about the professor. It certainly sounds like TA Abbate was spouting the generally accepted liberal propaganda on gay marriage - and, then, shut down the debate when a student disagreed with her. On the other hand, it sounds like Assoc. Prof. McAdams criticized her on his blog - but never attempted to speak with her privately. The punishment against him seems quite extreme, though. I hope, as mentioned above, that he has good legal counsel and fights this. He did not behave "perfectly" in this case, but this is how conservatives begin to take back the college campuses - and, the ones willing to do it, may be abrasive and "imperfect".

Posted by: Jen at December 18, 2014 09:41 PM (msAGT)

328 "There are 46,191 people named John Smith in the United States."

That's it? Out of 300 mil plus I would have expected a lot more people with that name.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 09:42 PM (BNIaE)

329 Posted by: Daisy at December 18, 2014 09:21 PM (bYST5) --- I agree. I wonder what dirt they are afraid will come out? Who are they truly afraid of upsetting? Gays and Jews, blacks and women, or 3 of the four, in the person of King Barry?

Posted by: Baldy at December 18, 2014 09:42 PM (+35FH)

330 'Ascension' really sucked...and sucked bad.

It was a mis-mash of various old worn out themes, with really badly researched 60's themes.
It was essentially a rewrite of historical 60's fashion and technology.

It leaves you hanging at the end, with no resolution...of anything.

It is a pilot in search of a series, or a second mini-series.
They called it 'Season One' for a reason.

They threw in a lot of sex to try to make it more palatable...and failed.

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 09:43 PM (Dlofw)

331 I'm not Catholic and I don't know nothin' about Popin'. I didn't know what to think of Benedict but, now, having this guy, I do know what I think about him.

He was okay.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 09:44 PM (BNIaE)

332 Drudge has this: "CLOONEY TRIES TO RALLY H'WOOD AROUND SONY... DEVELOPING... "

I don't know if this means around Sony-the-cowards, or around Sony-the-guys-sitting-on-the-movie.

If the latter, we might be treated to the rare spectacle of an otherwise-obnoxious liberal doing the right thing, like how Sontag supported Rushdie.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 09:47 PM (AVEe1)

333 Benedict picked up alot of financial rocks and gay relationship rocks within the hierarchy. And they never forgave him for it

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 09:48 PM (zOTsN)

334 "'Ascension' really sucked...and sucked bad. It was a mis-mash of various old worn out themes"

What, in modern Hollyweird, is *not* a "mis-mash of various old worn out themes"?

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 09:48 PM (noWW6)

335 "I also hope Santa brings me a unicorn for Christmas."

I've been getting a lump of coal in my stocking every year, without fail, since age three.

This last year I suddenly got a decrepit piece of celery instead.

Federal regulations and all.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 09:50 PM (noWW6)

336 330: Yea, I haven't seen the third one yet. I was underwhelmed at the first 2.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 18, 2014 09:52 PM (20X6f)

337 334 "'Ascension' really sucked...and sucked bad. It was a mis-mash of various old worn out themes"

What, in modern Hollyweird, is *not* a "mis-mash of various old worn out themes"?

--------

Heh. Good point.

But this one took Suckage to a whole new level.
And I hate that it gave some sort of credence to the old bullshit about the Moon Landings being fake.

It even threw in 'Carrie' to try to be more interesting.
Carrie in a can.

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2014 09:53 PM (Dlofw)

338 "Some names are more common that others."

There can be only one Kim Jong-un.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/world/asia/kim-jong-un-north-korea-name-ban.html

Posted by: Smith, John NMI at December 18, 2014 09:54 PM (/f+7g)

339 Catholic Marquette University..

Posted by: gonzotx at December 18, 2014 09:54 PM (PacaG)

340 And I hate that it gave some sort of credence to the old bullshit about the Moon Landings being fake.

The best part of "Interstellar" is how they had the perky HR-type girl argue that point at McConaughey. The movie really could have just stopped there.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 09:55 PM (AVEe1)

341 I'm not Catholic either, but I note that Benedict liked cats, while Francis likes socialism. That's all I need to know.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 09:55 PM (sdi6R)

342 "Jesuits created the theological underpinning for 'Liberation Theology'. Remember Jeremiah wright?"

Jeremiah Wright's churchly underpinnings are a WHOLE LOT more weird and race-loaded than ordinary lefty Catholicism.

Spend some time, if you dare, snooping around the theological works of the Rev. James Cone.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 09:56 PM (noWW6)

343 There can be only one Kim Jong-un.

Do they duke it out, Highlander or The One style?

Posted by: Rubber-banded Baby Lamb at December 18, 2014 09:56 PM (0NdlF)

344 Maybe in the next Hot Tub Time Machine movie the guys will go back to 1946 and make sure Truman nukes the Soviet Union into radioactive ash.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 09:57 PM (MQEz6)

345 Maryknoll. That will be all.

Posted by: Erowmero at December 18, 2014 09:57 PM (go5uR)

346 LOL At all these douchebag celebrities up in arms about the assault on the 1st Amendment.

Enjoy your shit sammiches since you voted for this shit asshole.

Posted by: thathalfrican at December 18, 2014 10:00 PM (R5HRU)

347 The sidebar article, "Nothing Succeeds Like Liberal Secession: Blue America Without Red America Would Be A Basket Case" is worth a read.

I still dislike the red state/blue state paradigm foisted on us by the leftist media, and the way conservatives unquestioningly accept it and keep repeating it. Obviously, the colors should be reversed. It's a good article, though.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 10:00 PM (sdi6R)

348 I thought it was a terrible job to be an instructor or even tenured staff at a University when I was in college. You train for up to 15 years to get your degree, you have to do peon work for little pay to earn an opening, you wind up trying to arrange a teaching schedule that you have to defend against the department chair's buddies because they don't want to teach basic classes either, and then you deal with a bunch of mouthbreather who don't get it, won't get it, or ask embarrassing questions because you don't get it either.

Let's face it, the age of the Elder Font of Wisdom that we all were taught about in the books from Wilson's administration are long gone. The age when you could be cool and hip and knowledgeable and get tail or ready-made acolytes is gone too.
What we have now is identity politics, battling shibboleths, and pressure to pass the athletes and the children of the well connected no matter how dismal the grades.
One wrong step and the best you can hope for is English 083 or teaching "Elements of Sociology" to women studies majors who are also looking to take you down like a redwood.

Of course the bitch shut down debate. Any and all actual debate is toxic, and a chance to make a wrong statement and have your career destroyed and never work again.
One.fucking.word.wrong.
Of course the bitch was propounding. Failing to be sufficiently enthusiastic will side-track your career and you will never get time to do the basic research to continue to publish.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2014 10:00 PM (t//F+)

349 " but I note that Benedict liked cats"

Now you're shaking my faith.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 10:02 PM (BNIaE)

350 I bet the Norks got the pedobear emails and texts and easily figured out the crude code those douchecanoes were using.

I bet even the Norks threw up a little bit.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:02 PM (MQEz6)

351 I still dislike the red state/blue state paradigm foisted on us by the leftist media, and the way conservatives unquestioningly accept it and keep repeating it. Obviously, the colors should be reversed. It's a good article, though.
Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 10:00 PM (sdi6R)

******
So, Red America would be a basket case without Blue America? I think not.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 18, 2014 10:03 PM (5kNXS)

352 'sup? when are we gonna turn NK to glass? seems like it would be a mercy for most of the poor bastids who have to live there.

Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2014 10:04 PM (6uib1)

353 Breaking: Up to 8 children stabbed in Cairns, Australia

Posted by: Baldy at December 18, 2014 10:04 PM (+35FH)

354 I'm watching the news, they're talking about this latest clusterflop, and I'm thinking I miss the old outrage a day stuff. What's going now has degenerated way past farce. We're at the zoo now, or the circus.

Posted by: ALH at December 18, 2014 10:05 PM (btTLZ)

355 "Up to 8 children stabbed in Cairns, Australia"

?

School?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 10:05 PM (BNIaE)

356 351
So, Red America would be a basket case without Blue America? I think not.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 18, 2014 10:03 PM (5kNXS)

No, "Red America" should be the Democrat urban areas. The Democrats are the real Reds.

Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 10:06 PM (sdi6R)

357 Looks like Liberation Theology came to be in 1955 in South America. Black Liberation Theology came to be in 1966 in the United States and is derivative

And yes, I denounce myself

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 10:06 PM (zOTsN)

358 "The age when you could be cool and hip and knowledgeable and get tail or ready-made acolytes is gone too. What we have now is identity politics, battling shibboleths, and pressure to pass the athletes and the children of the well connected no matter how dismal the grades."

Pressure to pass the athletes, the children of the well connected, and the "diversity admission" crew.

Pity the poor assistant profs without tenure having to deal with this Sword of Damocles constantly over their heads.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 10:06 PM (noWW6)

359 We're at the zoo now, or the circus.
Posted by: ALH at December 18, 2014 10:05 PM (btTLZ)

******

Definitely not my Circus, or my Clowns.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 18, 2014 10:06 PM (eLjug)

360 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 10:05 PM (BNIaE)- Apparently a house.

Posted by: Baldy at December 18, 2014 10:06 PM (+35FH)

361 The Modern Day idiots that we know as the LIVs see Government as Parent.

Posted by: cm9000 at December 18, 2014 10:07 PM (8zCR+)

362 Eight children?

WTF?

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:08 PM (MQEz6)

363 No, "Red America" should be the Democrat urban areas. The Democrats are the real Reds.
Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2014 10:06 PM (sdi6R)

******

OK, got it now. Thanks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 18, 2014 10:08 PM (5kNXS)

364 Breaking: Up to 8 children stabbed in Cairns, Australia

Posted by: Baldy at December 18, 2014 10:04 PM

What???

Posted by: otho at December 18, 2014 10:08 PM (tBSrv)

365 361 The Modern Day idiots that we know as the LIVs see Government as Parent.
Posted by: cm9000 at December 18, 2014 10:07 PM (8zCR+)

Sadly, that extends to highly trained folks, even scientists.

They live under the NPR spell.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:09 PM (MQEz6)

366 Okay, I need to stop this. Or post on the thread topic. But Catholic girls just wanna have fun.
ThunderB, you seem to know more about Church machinations than 95 percent of Catholics. You're still oversimplifying, though. This is a deeper problem than Vatican finances, or homosexual clerics and their self-protective and loose "network." And those are DEEP problems.
Benedict XVI was one of the 'progressive' theologians at Vatican II. He may have had regrets/maturation of thought over the years as CDF head and Pope. And yes, as someone else said above, he was "okay." I loved and and still love him. I think he did terrible damage by abdicating, though, and I know the Church's problem is ultimately theological- not the "gay Mafia," not corrupt people who will always exist, with us and elsewhere. But who do we believe God is, and what that means- there's the rub.

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 10:10 PM (5dip8)

367 Australian stabbing story:

http://tinyurl.com/lnqpprj

Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 10:11 PM (MMC8r)

368 "Up to 8 children stabbed in Cairns, Australia"

I am told that since evil handguns were removed from the hands of ordinary Australians by their beneficient and far-sighted government, the country has been transformed into an exemplar of blessed safety.

What could possibly have gone wrong?

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2014 10:11 PM (noWW6)

369 Back in the Stone Age when I was in college (the 1990's), the left was big on "diversity" - including its bedrock "diversity of opinion". Now that they are the dominant voice in the country, not so much.

It's almost like they were full of sh*t with the whole diversity thing all along.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 18, 2014 10:11 PM (QCo5R)

370 RE: Stabbing Deaths of 8 Kids --- Neighbours said the children lived there with their stepfather. Murray St is a diverse multicultural area with a mix of both private and public housing in a western suburb of Cairns (Australia).

http://preview.tinyurl.com/p7lgq25

Posted by: Baldy at December 18, 2014 10:12 PM (+35FH)

371 Lady S your post was so interesting and informative I had to read it over more than a few times to make sure I got it. I am not Catholic and would not presume to speak for Catholics but my hubby attended a Jesuit university and we became familiar. And I have tremendous affection for some Jesuits. Truly. I could never speak to doctrine, only the more mundane and secular like politics and gossip

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 10:15 PM (zOTsN)

372 payday loans online payday loans payday loans
loans online
Posted by: payday loans at December 18, 2014 10:11 PM (1BOnK)

Not even a link? You are not worth that Nickel you think you just earned.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 18, 2014 10:15 PM (5kNXS)

373 Can you buy a machine for sale with a payday loan?

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:16 PM (MQEz6)

374 Pretty scant info on the stabbings. Just 8 kids and some unknown woman with wounds as well from a residential house.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 10:18 PM (BNIaE)

375 Can you buy a machine for sale with a payday loan?

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:16 PM (MQEz6)
Only if you're rockin' a lace wig!

Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2014 10:18 PM (6uib1)

376 I consider Liberation Theology political, not doctrine

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 10:18 PM (zOTsN)

377 So, any betting pool on when the ONT comes up?

Posted by: The Overnight Hat at December 18, 2014 10:19 PM (lN8KC)

378 I was taught that Liberation Theology was an attempt to either reconcile the teachings of Christ with the teachings of International Socialism, or a way to use the Catholic faith as cover for destroying the underpinnings of traditional society and turning the elements that had the most to gain and the most to contribute in support of the then current power structure against the the society itself.

It depends on if you are for it or agin it.

Traditionally the societies of Latin America have been very traditional and self sustaining in that the societies settle into "areas of influence". Families, villages, and regions tend to have a sort of traditional role in the power structure and pass it down among them. When true revolution appeared, for example in the early 1800's, it was in large part because the Spanish crown started re-assinging power to groups and individuals that benefited the Spanish crown instead of the oligarchies in the colonies that had been focused on benefiting themselves.
I thought the main thrust of Liberation Theology was to set up the concept of "this stuff should belong to me instead because me and my friends deserve it, God and Marx say so." But I am an evil, cynical sinner.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2014 10:19 PM (t//F+)

379
And, to tell you the truth, I've been drinking Mate all afternoon
and it is affecting the flow of words. I have become loquacious. I'm
not sure if I will be able to sleep tonight.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2014 10:19 PM (t//F+)

380 376 Can you buy a machine for sale with a payday loan?

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:16 PM (MQEz6)
Only if you're rockin' a lace wig!
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2014 10:18 PM (6uib1)

It's around here someplace!

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:20 PM (MQEz6)

381 So, any betting pool on when the ONT comes up?

#twoweeks

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 10:20 PM (Osdie)

382 378 So, any betting pool on when the ONT comes up?
Posted by: The Overnight Hat at December 18, 2014 10:19 PM (lN8KC)

Ask Willow.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:20 PM (MQEz6)

383 372. Well, since you and I have argued a bit here before on other topics (maybe we were both in a bad mood?) for you to call my post interesting just made my day. Thank you! You are well-informed about many topics here at the HQ. When I've had a pissy day I may argue again but tonight, may I nudge your favorite beverage through the port?

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 10:21 PM (5dip8)

384 "So, any betting pool on when the ONT comes up?"

Thirty minutes. But I won't much partake. Not the drink. It's the tired.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 10:21 PM (BNIaE)

385
380
And, to tell you the truth, I've been drinking Mate all afternoon
and it is affecting the flow of words. I have become loquacious. I'm
not sure if I will be able to sleep tonight.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2014 10:19 PM (t//F+)

What is Mate?

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:22 PM (MQEz6)

386 Traditionally the societies of Latin America have been very traditional and self sustaining in that the societies settle into "areas of influence". Families, villages, and regions tend to have a sort of traditional role in the power structure and pass it down among them. When true revolution appeared, for example in the early 1800's, it was in large part because the Spanish crown started re-assinging power to groups and individuals that benefited the Spanish crown instead of the oligarchies in the colonies that had been focused on benefiting themselves.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2014 10:19 PM (t//F+)

Which is the same reason that the American Revolution got started.

Posted by: The Revolutionary Hat at December 18, 2014 10:22 PM (lN8KC)

387 NO ONT! NO PEACE! NO ONT! NO PEACE! throws Molotov cocktail

Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 18, 2014 10:22 PM (20X6f)

388 "American Sniper" looks good.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 10:23 PM (BNIaE)

389 352: Peaches, turning NK to glass, would be good for job growth. Think of all the squeegee jobs that would pop up. They use the streets for toilets there you know.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 10:24 PM (ucDmr)

390 "NO ONT! NO PEACE! NO ONT! NO PEACE! throws Molotov cocktail"

Ferguson's over.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 10:24 PM (BNIaE)

391 Lady S I will take a Sidecar please! No Molotov

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 10:25 PM (zOTsN)

392 AOL is running a story about Whoopi Goldberg and Rosie O'Donnell having an argument on the show. Wonder what that is meant to distract us from?

Posted by: ALH at December 18, 2014 10:25 PM (btTLZ)

393 About the only thing good about working night shift this time of year is that it is slow. All the fussy fascists are all out of town.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 18, 2014 10:25 PM (20X6f)

394 They use the streets for toilets there you know.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 10:24 PM (ucDmr)
probably not a huge big deal when you use rocks and dirt for food . . .

Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2014 10:25 PM (6uib1)

395 391: so I did let a crisis go to waste. Damn.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 18, 2014 10:26 PM (20X6f)

396 We demand immediate release of the ONT and all people in prison except white dudes even the ones with long hair and who are otherwise cool or we will destroy this Taco Bell with a single unified blast of Unity Waves.

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:26 PM (MQEz6)

397 AOL is running a story about Whoopi Goldberg and Rosie O'Donnell having an argument on the show. Wonder what that is meant to distract us from?
Posted by: ALH at December 18, 2014 10:25 PM (btTLZ)

*******

It was basically an argument over which on has more privilege points with regard to talking about racism, as I understand it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 18, 2014 10:27 PM (z2f1n)

398 Is There Something About Ampersands?

Posted by: cm9000 at December 18, 2014 10:27 PM (8zCR+)

399 Is There Something About Ampersands?

Posted by: cm9000 at December 18, 2014 10:27 PM (8zCR+)
haven't had one in 2-3 years now. you get used to it . . .

Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2014 10:28 PM (6uib1)

400 395: Wouldn't that be a little hard on the glass?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 10:29 PM (ucDmr)

401 &

Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:29 PM (MQEz6)

402 it's up . . . hat got frist

Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2014 10:30 PM (6uib1)

403 I don't know, I've had some alcohol, but in my family we enjoy tis clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQOWp3tLb2s

Posted by: stace at December 18, 2014 10:30 PM (ImzkZ)

404 ONT

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2014 10:30 PM (BNIaE)

405 Sidecar. Got it.
(consults bartender guide. Hoists.)

Posted by: LadyS at December 18, 2014 10:30 PM (5dip8)

406 What is Mate?
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2014 10:22 PM (MQEz6)

Mate is -yerba mate- is a type of Paraguayan tea. It is made from the leave of shrub related to holly and has caffeine in it. It grows in Paraguay and Argentina.
You can buy it around, health food stores tend to have it. It tastes sort of like green tea.
The lady at work who grew up in Argentina watched me make it and informed me that I needed to put a lot more in and add a bunch of sugar to make it traditional. I would have caught fire and detonated using her recipe.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2014 10:31 PM (t//F+)

407 It was basically an argument over which on has more privilege points with regard to talking about racism, as I understand it.

Let me tell you about being authentically black.
--Joe Biden

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 10:31 PM (Osdie)

408 Jimmah Carter was just on my tv. Why the fuck is that twatwaffle relavent again? Cover for commies?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 18, 2014 10:31 PM (ucDmr)

409 379 kindltot

Funny you should mention that.

I was reading "Hot Gate" by John Ringo today and he brought up that cultural point in a futuristic sci-fi book.

Never heard of the author til I checked out the book thread.

It's worth reading the trilogy, Troy Rising.

Posted by: seamrog at December 18, 2014 10:32 PM (VzM5r)

410 He says that about Gaia when he goes to the Global Warming conventions.

Here was another amusing response:

"Too bad his soul doesn't influence his foreign policy."

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