Phone Numbers Provided by Jackie for Her Imaginary Boyfriend Were Created on Website That Enables Cellphone Spoofing

That is, it's actually a computer website that can pretend that it's sending texts from a cellphone of a number the user makes up and assigns to the spoof account.

This explains how the Mystery Man "Drew" sent texts to Jackie's friends, despite not actually existing:

Today the Washington Times adds significant new detail to the story. It turns out the cell numbers provided by Jackie, "are registered to Internet services that...can be used to redirect calls to different numbers or engage in spoofing." The site, known as Pinger, is an app that allows people to text for free but it can also be used to set up free texting accounts on the web. It's at least possible then that the accounts Jackie's friends were texting were not connected to a phone at all. Told about the source of the texts, one of Jackie's friends, Alex Stock, tells the Times, "That definitely raises some red flags."

This raises a possibility which I must stress is merely a possibility, a possible explanation for some contradictory claims.

I wouldn't offer this speculation, because I'll get killed by the SJWs, except that it's so obvious it's essentially right there on the surface.

Sabrina Rubin Erdely has claimed that she in fact contacted "Randall" (now identified as Ryan) but he said he would not comment on the story "out of loyalty to his frat."

Ryan, for his part, says he never spoke with Erdely, and that she never contacted him at all. He says he would have spoke to her if Erdely had asked.

So, given this business with the spoofed cell phone numbers: Is it possible that Sabrina Rubin Erdely was tricked into thinking she was texting with Ryan when in fact she was just communicating with spoofed accounts run by someone else?

I don't know. That scenario would permit both Ryan and Erdely to be telling the truth, as it appeared to them, and yet be in complete contradiction with one another. Ryan would say "Erdely never contacted me," and would be truthful, and Erdely would say "I contacted Ryan but he refused to be interviewed," and would not be lying, though she would be wrong.

Even if that were true, I don't know if that totally lets Erdely off the hook. I don't know if you just assume you've gotten through to an interview subject without any kind of actual confirmation of that.

Spooky:

I'll mention this again -- STEPHEN GLASS'S MIDDLE NAME IS RANDALL.
It's turtles all the way down on this one, people.
-- Phinn

Posted by: Ace at 08:27 PM

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1 At what point does law enforcement get involved in this story?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 16, 2014 08:30 PM (pDSxN)

2 That implies ace that she never spoke to him, just texts. That's irresponsible at best.

Posted by: tsrblke (phone) at December 16, 2014 08:31 PM (HDwDg)

3 I really don't care. The whole story is just a concoction designed to support a fake narrative. The people involved need to spend some time in jail.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 16, 2014 08:31 PM (60Vyp)

4 Sabrina wanted it to be true so she did what had to be done to make it true.

Posted by: joncelli at December 16, 2014 08:31 PM (ENczY)

5 I'm confused.

Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2014 08:32 PM (MDgS8)

6 Is this Jackie Mackie Paisley?

I am Mongo.

Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2014 08:33 PM (MDgS8)

7 That implies ace that she never spoke to him, just texts. That's irresponsible at best.

Posted by: tsrblke (phone) at December 16, 2014 08:31 PM (HDwDg)

IDK lel WTF txt me bro

Posted by: Totes legit cell phone text message at December 16, 2014 08:33 PM (lN8KC)

8 This Jackie person seems batshit crazy.

Posted by: jmel at December 16, 2014 08:34 PM (cfFqn)

9 Sabrina Rubin Erdely has claimed that she in fact contacted "Randall"
(now identified as Ryan) but he said he would not comment on the story
"out of loyalty to his frat."

Is it possible that Sabrina Rubin Erdely was tricked into thinking she was texting with Ryan when in fact she was just communicating with spoofed accounts run by someone else?

I'll mention this again -- STEPHEN GLASS'S MIDDLE NAME IS RANDALL.

It's turtles all the way down on this one, people.

Posted by: Phinn at December 16, 2014 08:34 PM (i5GO4)

10 Maybe they're all dumb whores?

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 16, 2014 08:34 PM (9sMMW)

11 4 Sabrina wanted it to be true so she did what had to be done to make it true.

Posted by: joncelli at December 16, 2014 08:31 PM (ENczY)

For, roughly, the fourth time.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizarro World at December 16, 2014 08:35 PM (UtwNa)

12 I knew it! It's Rapey Tuesday!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 08:35 PM (FsuaD)

13 That's my alternative theory, anyway.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 16, 2014 08:35 PM (9sMMW)

14 It's amazing what reporters can dig up when they do a little investigating, isn't it!

Posted by: Jay at December 16, 2014 08:35 PM (hL/0E)

15 Why would law enforcement get involved? We know that she refused to speak to them and never filed charges. So they couldn't get her for false filing or for lying to them.

Civil courts seem to be more likely to get involved eventually if someone decides that she has defamed them.

Posted by: agesilaus at December 16, 2014 08:36 PM (kfwh8)

16 And I made 72 Million over a couple of lunch breaks.

Posted by: Mo Islam at December 16, 2014 08:36 PM (jucos)

17 I most humbly suggest that "Jackie" be put in the stockade and rotten tomatoes be thrown at her.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 08:36 PM (CpRK8)

18 Sabrina Rubin Erdely has claimed that she in fact contacted "Randall" (now identified as Ryan) but he said he would not comment on the story "out of loyalty to his frat."

He not only said she didn't talk to him, but that the only Greek letters he knew were as a result of mathematics classes. In other words, he's not even in a fraternity.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 16, 2014 08:36 PM (nL0sw)

19 Oh yeah...This is Jackie UVA Jackie...

N/M

Color me Mongo.

I wish I had said that in the first place.

Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2014 08:36 PM (MDgS8)

20 This is a type of Switch Rape, no?

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2014 08:36 PM (oqa5u)

21

So, given this business with the spoofed cell phone numbers: Is it possible that Sabrina Rubin Erdely was tricked into thinking she was texting with Ryan when in fact she was just communicating with spoofed accounts run by someone else?

Let's see:

Sabrina Rubin Erdely has claimed that she in fact contacted "Randall" (now identified as Ryan)

Does Erdly specify the type of contact? Was it via text (in which the first italicized quote makes sense) or did she speak to "Randall", and therefore heard a voice?

If voice, then who was she really speaking to? Was it really "Randall", or someone impersonating "Randall"? This makes a difference.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 16, 2014 08:37 PM (FlRtG)

22 Dude, you may be on to something. Jackie may actually be the biggest POS in this whole affair.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 16, 2014 08:37 PM (3a584)

23 Eh you're giving erdley too much of the benefit of the doubt ace. I figure she just made up that she contacted him. She's demonstamrated that she's a liar. Jackie of course is also a liar. But in the case of who owns which lie this one falls on the lying journalist.

And I do love the little caveat about how pinger can also be used for free texting. Who has a cellphone plan that doesn't include free texting? Better question, what 19 year old college student doesn't have free texting?

Posted by: Buzzion at December 16, 2014 08:37 PM (z/Ubi)

24 Not this shit again, I lost interest a long time ago. Nothing will happen to that skank.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 16, 2014 08:37 PM (ucDmr)

25 ...and it's about time we got back to rape.

Posted by: garrett at December 16, 2014 08:37 PM (oqa5u)

26 I'm still gonna go with "Jackie" is Sabrina's alter ego.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 08:37 PM (FsuaD)

27 I knew it! It's Rapey Tuesday!

I fucking hate when that happens.

Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2014 08:37 PM (MDgS8)

28 off the hook?

ERD's bad faith reporting goes deeper than that

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 16, 2014 08:37 PM (yHNS+)

29 Why would I thoroughly investigate a story that rang true to me any my lesbian friends?

Posted by: Sabrina Rubin Erdely at December 16, 2014 08:38 PM (9sMMW)

30 Renda is the one who introduced Erdely and Jackie.
She was an intern for UVA President Sullivan.
She testified before Congress in the spring when she told Jackie's story (changed the name to Jenna then).
And she worked at the White House.

Renda tells her own implausible story of being raped on campus as a freshman and never reporting it to the police.

Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC 7h
An interview with UVA Jackie's friend, Emily Renda.
Daily Callerhttp://tinyurl.com/mzojc7w

Renda, who brought Jackie’s story to Erdely’s attention, says that whereas she was “shoved around” by a couple of guys who she says were frustrated by an op-ed she wrote about her own sexual assault, Jackie reported her bar attack before she began speaking out openly on campus about her alleged gang-rape at the Phi Kappa Psi house.

Renda said that Jackie faced “retaliatory harassment” for her claims that she was gang-raped, not because she was giving sexual assault awareness presentations on campus.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 16, 2014 08:38 PM (ZPrif)

31 If you text a fake cellphone number in the forest and no one texts you back...did you really text?

Posted by: Billy Blaze at December 16, 2014 08:38 PM (HRo7B)

32 Do you know if they contacted George Glass?

Posted by: Marcia Brady at December 16, 2014 08:38 PM (jucos)

33 Nuke Rolling Stone from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2014 08:39 PM (+ED9B)

34 A. Saw Ryan interviewed on CNN about an hour ago, so this has really entered MSM.

B. I so want Jackie and Erdely to go away in shame. And to stay away. I'm sick of this circus of mental illness and SJW activism thru journalism.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2014 08:39 PM (ABcz/)

35 too much rape, not enough elbows

Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:39 PM (4OZqu)

36 "Jackie" should be prosecuted for false rape report. Or MAYBE that is why she did NOT report a rape, so she could play her game and not be prosecuted.

Bottom line? This is one crazy bitch.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2014 08:39 PM (0FSuD)

37 "out of respect to Jackie, we did not contact her friends for comment."

There is nothing that will let Erderly off the hook. Bad journalism is bad journalism...including allowing a lie to perpetrate without following up claims.

Posted by: SGT York at December 16, 2014 08:39 PM (zh7yG)

38 Friends don't let friends weave tangled webs.

Posted by: Spider at December 16, 2014 08:39 PM (fBxC6)

39 Is this the kind of case where someone could require the NSA to produce the meta data for those numbers?

Or the server logs from the web site?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 16, 2014 08:40 PM (pDSxN)

40 <<This is a type of Switch Rape, no?>>

You mean Rape and Switch?

Posted by: SGT York at December 16, 2014 08:40 PM (zh7yG)

41 37
"out of respect to Jackie, we did not contact her friends for comment."

"So we made her friends sound like cold-hearted assholes in the RS article."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 08:40 PM (FsuaD)

42 When we first tangle a weave we are deceived.

Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2014 08:40 PM (MDgS8)

43 I repeat, Ryan needs to give seminars in How Not To Stick Your Dick In Crazy.

I wonder how many zeros will be on the check RS will be writing to the friends.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at December 16, 2014 08:40 PM (IrByp)

44 I'm not following ace. The Sexton article is about fake text messages from the imagined Drew to "Jackies" friends. What does it have to do with Erdely and this Ryan guy?

Posted by: lowandslow at December 16, 2014 08:40 PM (BXkFh)

45 Kinda weird how Jackie's friends full names are being reported openly by WashPost -- but not Jackie's last name. The friends smeared as shallow, uncaring idiots and rape culture supporters.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 16, 2014 08:40 PM (ZPrif)

46 I think just having this post is rape!!! because victim!!!!

Posted by: Shrill, angry, fugly wymns studies prof. at December 16, 2014 08:41 PM (HRo7B)

47 The spoofed texts idea is possible, given that it's almost certain Jackie did that earlier with her own friends. But I'm skeptical. I'm pretty sure that Erdley made up big chunks of this story on her own, and see no reason to suspect that Jackie spoofed some texts from "Randall".

Posted by: junior at December 16, 2014 08:41 PM (UWFpX)

48 Who has a cellphone plan that doesn't include free texting?
Posted by: Buzzion
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Me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 08:41 PM (/GgDU)

49 I think Erdely was talking to her inner voices during most all of her story.

Jackie just provided a starting point or framework.

The rest was all Fantasy Island with no Tatu.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2014 08:41 PM (RZzX3)

50 I'll mention this again -- STEPHEN GLASS'S MIDDLE NAME IS RANDALL.It's turtles all the way down on this one, people.

Posted by: Phinn at December 16, 2014 08:34 PM

I'm thinking the same thing. It's all like a a remake of the "Hack Heaven" unravelling. With a rewrite. Lots of parallels.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2014 08:41 PM (tBSrv)

51 <<Nuke Rolling Stone from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.>>

Fuckin' a.

Posted by: SGT York at December 16, 2014 08:41 PM (zh7yG)

52 Saw Ryan interviewed on CNN about an hour ago, so this has really entered MSM.

Ryan? That bastard.

Posted by: garrett loves Cake Girl at December 16, 2014 08:42 PM (oqa5u)

53 A girl I don't know says she was raped by 5 to 9 dudes in a frat house whose location had to be pointed to her and I'm supposed to check THAT story out before I ruin everyone's lives? Not in my world.

Posted by: Sabrina Rubin Erdely at December 16, 2014 08:42 PM (9sMMW)

54 Did anyone else see the ABC interview of "Ryan"?

He has to be Pajama Boy's boyfriend. My gheydar when nuts.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2014 08:42 PM (0FSuD)

55 In related news, NYT is laying off about 100 people.
Think any of these news orgs and publications have figured out that they're losing money because they have devolved into biased, tabloid crap like this RS story?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2014 08:42 PM (ABcz/)

56 I'm pretty sure Rolling Stone is inhabited by a staff of face-sized camel spiders. With greasy ponytails.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 08:42 PM (FsuaD)

57
48 Who has a cellphone plan that doesn't include free texting?
Posted by: Buzzion
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Me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 08:41 PM (/GgDU)

See the following better question.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 16, 2014 08:43 PM (z/Ubi)

58 At what point does law enforcement get involved in this story?

Sorry, we're real busy overlooking stuff.

Posted by: Eric Holder at December 16, 2014 08:43 PM (FcR7P)

59 In related news, NYT is laying off about 100 people.
--
I hear Breitbart is hiring.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 16, 2014 08:43 PM (ZPrif)

60 Let me tell you a couple of things about Ederly and Glass.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 16, 2014 08:43 PM (53CCM)

61 Oh my God, Clark, Superman was here! You just missed him. How is it that you're never in the same place at the same time?

Posted by: Sabrina Rubin Erdely at December 16, 2014 08:44 PM (b4b5c)

62 Hammer there are free apps that let you text for free.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2014 08:44 PM (0FSuD)

63 I knew it! It's Rapey Tuesday!

I fucking hate when that happens.
Posted by: eleven

So is tomorrow Wilding Wednesday?

Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 08:44 PM (kW1lr)

64 Rolling stone: WTFIs that? A periodical or something?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 16, 2014 08:44 PM (ucDmr)

65 I'm pretty sure Rolling Stone is inhabited by a staff of face-sized camel spiders. With greasy ponytails.

I object, that is a slur against camel spiders to compare them with that Cheeto eating dope Chukkkles of Gangrene Foosballs.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 08:44 PM (CpRK8)

66 Bad journalism is bad journalism...including allowing a lie to perpetrate without following up claims.
Posted by: SGT York at December 16, 2014 08:39 PM (zh7yG)

Erdely's writing wasn't journalism, that was straight up Science Fiction.

The woman got criticized for making up stuff by Stephan Glass for crying out loud.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2014 08:44 PM (RZzX3)

67 The Rolling Stone sure ain't Kalle Blomkwist

Posted by: Jack at December 16, 2014 08:45 PM (53CCM)

68 I'm really starting to think that nothing at all happened that night on campus.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 16, 2014 08:45 PM (rwI+c)

69 Why didn't someone tell my ass about texting free and shit like dat?

Posted by: Crystal Gale at December 16, 2014 08:46 PM (0FSuD)

70 Erdely's writing wasn't journalism, that was straight up ~~Science Fiction~~ bodice ripper fantasy--for the 50 Shades of Grey crowd.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 08:46 PM (FsuaD)

71 I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!!

Posted by: Jackie: in ur house boilin' ur bunneh at December 16, 2014 08:47 PM (V70Ne)

72 68
I'm really starting to think that nothing at all happened that night on campus.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 16, 2014 08:45 PM (rwI+c)

WHAT?

"Something happened in that house'"! Mike Nifong told me.

Posted by: Nancy Grace, CNN Bitch at December 16, 2014 08:47 PM (0FSuD)

73 Think any of these news orgs and publications have figured out that they're losing money because they have devolved into biased, tabloid crap like this RS story?
Posted by: Lizzy
-----------------------

No. Zero self-awareness.
Happily, the local Gannett rag has sent me a subscription offer..., *with* a postage paid reply envelope. I have every intent of penning a nice letter explaining why I will not be subscribing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 08:47 PM (/GgDU)

74 There is nothing that will let Erderly off the hook. Bad journalism is bad journalism...including allowing a lie to perpetrate without following up claims.

Posted by: SGT York at December 16, 2014 08:39 PM (zh7yG)

Pfffft.....that's chickenshit. She fumbled the narrative. That's her crime. They could give a shit if she lied, or not. She got caught, and stupidly.

..and, it would seem now, repeatedly.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizarro World at December 16, 2014 08:48 PM (UtwNa)

75 "Dammit Jim, I'm a veterinarian, not a miracle worker. This horse is dead."

(should have included a Trigger warning in case Roy Rogers is lurking).

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 16, 2014 08:48 PM (NeFrd)

76 Time to see what a disaster Ascension episode two is all about.

http://youtu.be/R9cNtrrCP0E

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 08:49 PM (CpRK8)

77 I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!!
Posted by: Jackie: in ur house boilin' ur bunneh
------------------------------

lol

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 08:49 PM (/GgDU)

78 No. Zero self-awareness.
Happily, the local Gannett rag has sent me a subscription offer..., *with* a postage paid reply envelope. I have every intent of penning a nice letter explaining why I will not be subscribing.

Don't get too right-wingy.

I'm just sayin. They'll only ignore you.

Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2014 08:49 PM (MDgS8)

79 One thing does check out in the story. There is a university of Virginia.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2014 08:50 PM (tBSrv)

80 You know what pisses me off? All the frats and sororities had to cancel their Christmas parties. Less raping before Christmas is good.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2014 08:50 PM (0FSuD)

81 Corgi corgi corgis!

Posted by: CM at December 16, 2014 08:50 PM (0NdlF)

82 Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is coming on.

My very, very guilty pleasure.

Speaking of ho's.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 08:50 PM (FsuaD)

83 (should have included a Trigger warning in case Roy Rogers is lurking).
Posted by: Seamus
-----------------

When they stuffed Trigger, they took away his trigger, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 08:50 PM (/GgDU)

84 Bullshit is what it is.

Posted by: eman at December 16, 2014 08:51 PM (MQEz6)

85 79
One thing does check out in the story. There is a university of Virginia.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2014 08:50 PM (tBSrv)

Actually, it is simply called "The University"

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2014 08:51 PM (0FSuD)

86 This movie is a remake.

Posted by: Mary Mapes at December 16, 2014 08:51 PM (fBxC6)

87 Damn. Ace got stomped by the ONT.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 08:52 PM (FsuaD)

88 Time to see what a disaster Ascension episode two is all about.

Oh, just about to watch it now..... does it suck out loud?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2014 08:52 PM (ABcz/)

89 I love it when a good progressive narrative falls apart and they all scatter like cockroaches do when you turn the light on.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2014 08:52 PM (RZzX3)

90 What interests me most is the use of a fake cell number to txt in college. Man that would have saved me hours of screening the answering machine, and paying per-use for *69. Caller ID was a hell of an invention in my later single years.

Posted by: JDub (was BunkerintheBurbs) at December 16, 2014 08:52 PM (X3xYu)

91 Later, all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 08:52 PM (FsuaD)

92 76 Time to see what a disaster Ascension episode two is all about.

http://youtu.be/R9cNtrrCP0E

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 08:49 PM (CpRK

Watched about 30 minutes of it last night.

*click* Fucking sucked.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizarro World at December 16, 2014 08:52 PM (UtwNa)

93 You know, I've watched every single Columbo and I could never figure out the murderer until the very end.

Posted by: Sabrina Rubin Erdely at December 16, 2014 08:53 PM (b4b5c)

94 I kan haz raep stry? lel

Posted by: Totes legit cell phone text message at December 16, 2014 08:54 PM (lN8KC)

95 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizarro World at December 16, 2014 08:52 PM (UtwNa)

Doesn't that mean the melanin is being sucked out of your skin?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2014 08:54 PM (RZzX3)

96 What was the rag (The Globe?) that published the Bat Boy story with picture years back? Who knew that they would turn out to be more accomplished journalists than these hacks. At the very least they were entertaining.

Posted by: Cheri at December 16, 2014 08:54 PM (ZFPMM)

97 Weekly World News

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2014 08:55 PM (RZzX3)

98 I knew it! It's Rapey Tuesday

Call me old fashioned, but I prefer tuna Thursdays.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 16, 2014 08:57 PM (sDapq)

99 Hello, is this Mr. Hertz? Am I in contact with Dick Hertz? I was given your number by Amanda Hugankiss. I needed Amanda Hugankiss badly...to get in touch with you, Dick.

Posted by: Sabrina Rubin Erdely at December 16, 2014 08:58 PM (b4b5c)

100 59 In related news, NYT is laying off about 100 people.
--
I hear Breitbart is hiring.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 16, 2014 08:43 PM (ZPrif)

Breitbart won't be hiring them.

Posted by: rickl at December 16, 2014 09:01 PM (sdi6R)

101 After what she did to those priests in Philly, I wouldn't give Erdley any slack at all.

Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 09:04 PM (TETYm)

102 He has to be Pajama Boy's boyfriend. My gheydar when nuts.

I wonder if one of the grrrlllz involved may have once saw a cute guy, hit on him then he turned her down because ghey?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 16, 2014 09:07 PM (0HooB)

103
Jackie isn't necessarily batshit crazy--she's just what a "normal" high school girl is these days.

A lot of them do this spoof crap--it's part of "cyberbullying" too.

She didn't want to go to stinky old UVa, she wanted to go to Brown and be Patch Adams (now she wants to be a social worker--and next week she's gooing to be a race car).

She wanted Randall to be her boyfriend, like, YESTERDAY!

So she did what little high school queens do. She created a drama they could all play on their "smart" phones.

And she played for three years, into an advocacy group, and on to Rolling Stone.

How was she still enrolled by then? Mind: Boggled.

Posted by: barbarausa at December 16, 2014 09:24 PM (Sq/lh)

104 THEN WHO WAS RAPIST??!?!?!?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 16, 2014 09:41 PM (Y5I9o)

105 @54 - Did anyone else see the ABC interview of "Ryan"?
He has to be Pajama Boy's boyfriend. My gheydar when nuts.

Me, too...but, remember, "Jackie" had a crush on "Ryan" according to "Ryan" - who, although not at all interested in her, spent a great deal of time texting her "boyfriend" and trying to find out who her "boyfriend" was (very odd behavior). The whole story is a huge mess of unchecked gossip...but, then, so is Diane Feinstein's Senate report on CIA torture....

Posted by: Jen at December 16, 2014 09:52 PM (msAGT)

106 A lot of them do this spoof crap--it's part of "cyberbullying" too.

Posted by: barbarausa at December 16, 2014 09:24 PM (Sq/lh)

Good thing Rubin Erdley isn't familiar with the culture of late adolescent girls. You know, the way a reporter interviewing one ought to be.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 16, 2014 10:22 PM (oKE6c)

107 Me, too...but, remember, "Jackie" had a crush on "Ryan" according to "Ryan" - who, although not at all interested in her, spent a great deal of time texting her "boyfriend" and trying to find out who her "boyfriend" was (very odd behavior).
Posted by: Jen at December 16, 2014 09:52 PM (msAGT)

Extremely odd behavior. No normal guy would hydrolyze a single molecule of ATP trying to find out who the boyfriend was of a girl he wasn't interested in. Why would he care?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 16, 2014 10:25 PM (oKE6c)

108 _83 - (should have included a Trigger warning in case Roy Rogers is lurking).
Posted by: Seamus

Roy's Twitter account has been pulled
Where is Roy?

Posted by: CO at December 16, 2014 10:34 PM (TiOn5)

109 Jackie Jackie you're the girl for me
857-630 Ni-ee-i-ee-i-een.

Posted by: Tommy Rapey Two-tone at December 16, 2014 10:59 PM (bnBpD)

110
Jay Guevara, it's a big thing in NoVA high school "culture"--I have two kids just safely out of it, boy and girl.

and both boys and girls do this crap. They are all plugged into gadgets 24-7. She could have been in the same room spoofing them, and no one would have known but her.

same possibility with SRE--she could have been right there with Jackie spoofing her. They spoof better when they're with the mark, because they can talk to them at the same time as themselves.

It's a creepy kid thing, and completely believeable to me as a mom re kids in their first few weeks of college.

Posted by: barbarausa at December 16, 2014 11:04 PM (Sq/lh)

111 Talk about dodging a bullet, I almost tweeted Jackie

Posted by: Anthony Wiener at December 16, 2014 11:06 PM (bnBpD)

112 If Erdely hadn't already been involved in no less than three phony or very doubtful stories before this one, your theory might be worthy of consideration.

But she had a story withdrawn from her college paper for fabricating it. Her first rape tale for Rolling Stone was withdrawn when the 'victim' recanted. Then she did another story about an American female soldier allegedly raped in Iraq which doesn't add up, either, although it has not been withdrawn or completely refuted - yet.

Plus, before the UVA story even came out, she was working on a screenplay of it for a movie proposal. She was looking to cash in big.

Rolling Stone editors claimed, when early questions on this story arose, that they had been in touch with the accused and that they did indeed exist - odd since Jackie gave completely different names to her friends on the night of September 28, to the U admins a year later, and to Erdely this year, and NONE of them are real people.

RS had to know about the fraud. They were part of it, and the editor in question was not fired or demoted.

Posted by: Adjoran at December 16, 2014 11:34 PM (QIQ6j)

113 "Is it possible that Sabrina Rubin Erdely was tricked into thinking she was texting with Ryan when in fact she was just communicating with spoofed accounts run by someone else?"

That was my conjecture shortly after I read that all the friends said they hadn't heard from RS. If Jackie was tricking her friends with the Mystery Man, it wouldn't be much of a step to do the same when the reporter asked for contact info to follow up with her friends.

Posted by: Alex at December 16, 2014 11:52 PM (7Yy8M)

114 Weekly World News once did a story where the residents of an old folks' home when berserk on Viagra and raped the entire nursing staff.

THAT was more convincing than the UVA story...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at December 17, 2014 12:31 AM (XO6WW)

115 More likely spoof account run by Jackie to send and answer fake texts to get boys attention.

Erdeley never texted or called or talked to anyone.

Posted by: Brainpimp at December 17, 2014 12:55 AM (zosQc)

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Posted by: Regmodels.ru at December 17, 2014 01:20 AM (2188m)

117 I know what this is about, but unless I am not quite awake (I went to bed way too early... so am up at 4am) - I don't see anywhere in Ace's post a mention of what this is about.

Posted by: Baldy at December 17, 2014 04:10 AM (+35FH)

118 How was she still enrolled by then? Mind: Boggled.
Posted by: barbarausa at December 16, 2014 09:24 PM (Sq/lh)
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If she switched her major to sociology, it would be pretty easy. You don't have to be bright to get a degree in sociology. (It's what Michelle Obama majored in at Princeton, BTW). Lots of easy gut classes. Nothing like being a pre-med, which is what Jackie was supposed to be in her first year (when she was failing most of her classes).

Plus, do you really think the SJW's at UVA were going to expel a student who'd been a "victim" of a violent gang rape on campus? Not in a million years.

Jackie's imaginary rape solved a whole lot of problems for her. It gave her a new set of sympathetic friends, it gave her a free pass for failing her first-year classes, it gave her an excuse to change from a hard major to a gut major, it even got her on the cover of Rolling Stone . . . (okay, maybe that last one wasn't so great, but the others sure were).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 17, 2014 06:54 AM (2ruKl)

119
I imagine she WAS failing most things, if she was spending so much effort being so many different people to try to get a (maybe closeted gay?) boy to be her accessory.

her parents can't afford Brown. Can they afford this?

Hope she is charged for false report, and gets some kind of reality-check inducing comeuppance.

mind, boggled in general by this whole thing. the "higher" ed bubble can't burst soon enough.

Posted by: barbarausa at December 17, 2014 08:09 AM (Sq/lh)

120 THEN WHO WAS PHONE?

Posted by: Pinger at December 17, 2014 09:18 AM (Y92Nd)

121 Plus, before the UVA story even came out, she was working on a screenplay of it for a movie proposal. She was looking to cash in big.

Yeah, that sounds like a real blockbuster--

GANG RAPE -- starring Amy McAdams and Jake Glyllenhall.

GANG RAPE -- First she was raped at a frat party. Then she was raped by the patriarchy.

GANG RAPE -- Prepare to be raped

Posted by: Phinn at December 17, 2014 10:05 AM (2RVA8)

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