Early Morning Thread 12/7/14: Six and Three is Nine edition [krakatoa]

Welcome to decision day for the FBS selection committee. You can bet they were wishing a few of yesterday's game's had gone differently. I have little pity though: It should have been an 8 game playoff from the get go. This 4 game playoff was an exercise in trying to placate moneyed interests rather than the interests of the actual players, coaches & fans.

So, pretty much exactly what we deserve, given our voting habits.

Off to Chicago today. With just a wee bit of luck, it'll be a quick in and out, with no lasting damage, then back home by Wednesday evening.

I may not be a fan of their politics, but God help me, I love their hot dogs. Portillo's will get their due this week.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:42 AM

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1 Surely not

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:39 AM (sTzSd)

2 Helooooooooo

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:40 AM (sTzSd)

3 Tick tock

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:40 AM (sTzSd)

4 There are no comments displayed but I don't think I am first.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 07, 2014 07:40 AM (PD6iL)

5 Wake up!

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:40 AM (sTzSd)

6 3 teams - 1 playoff spot

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:41 AM (sTzSd)

7 I wonder if I can get this thread to 1000 comments by myself

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:43 AM (sTzSd)

8 Look squirrel!

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:44 AM (sTzSd)

9 Chicago is one city that makes me hope the Muslims do succeed in smuggling a nuke into this country. Philadelphia is another. As for Detroit, it is too late, there would be no point in nuking it.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 07, 2014 07:44 AM (PD6iL)

10 Barky is a SCOAMF

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:44 AM (sTzSd)

11
Greetings, Erf Peeps!

I see that the NASA's New Horizon spacecraft to explore Pluto via a flyby was successfully awakened yesterday evening. Its closest approach will occur in mid-July.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 07:45 AM (/dvmK)

12 Yep. A good dog with neon green relish, wrapped with fries in paper. Especially after a good day/night of indulgence.

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 07:45 AM (8ikIW)

13 Miss Piggy is now off the lobby trough to get her some of that sweet, sweet dirty money.

Posted by: Havedash at December 07, 2014 07:46 AM (G1XMn)

14
Is it too much to ask for both The New Republic and Rolling Stone to be burned to the ground, their sites salted and their ashes scattered to the four winds by this time next year?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 07:47 AM (/dvmK)

15 I live to close to Chicago to hope for any major damage to it. I do wish that the people that flee from it because it is a shithole would quit coming into the suburbs to try and create Chicago lite. " All of the taxes, less color"

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 07:48 AM (8ikIW)

16 I wonder how Choom Boy's widdle froat feels today. Does acid reflux keep him from golfing? From issuing executive orders? Most important: does it keep him from fundraising?

Now that Bitch McConnell has another Senator on his team, maybe we can open those borders completely and approve all President Historic First's© appointees real soon!

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 07, 2014 07:49 AM (yAC3X)

17
Well, at least Ms. Piggy needn't return to Louisiana - ever - after yesterday's smashup.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 07:49 AM (/dvmK)

18 Barky's sore throat- I have been fighting this same problem for more than two and a half years. 3 surgeries and 1 laser treatment and a shitload of medication. A sore throat for 2.5 years is not awesome.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:50 AM (sTzSd)

19 10 Barky is a SCOAMF

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 07:44 AM (sTzSd)

Easy now. The man child is sick with a sore throat. Gonorrhea of the tonsils has got to be nasty so ease off him till he feels better.

Posted by: Anonymous Scandi Hobo who doesn't want to be turned into jerky at December 07, 2014 07:50 AM (u5scc)

20 I told Reggie I could take the whole thing.

Posted by: King Baraka at December 07, 2014 07:50 AM (BLFGI)

21

DAY 761

702 to go (775 to Inauguration Day 2017)

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2014 07:52 AM (CMkNk)

22
73 years on . . .

REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2014 07:53 AM (CMkNk)

23 @14 - NYT first.

Posted by: JEM at December 07, 2014 07:53 AM (ZBGyR)

24 The professional progressives, pretentious old crappy magazines and idiot college presidents such as at UVa are blowing themselves up all over the place. It has been a pretty good week. I hope all damaged parties sue the devil out of them for fun and profit.

Posted by: Lester at December 07, 2014 07:53 AM (2UPXV)

25 23 @14 - NYT first.
Posted by: JEM at December 07, 2014 07:53 AM (ZBGyR)

Very nice building. Maybe we can hoist the AOSHQ jolly roger over top?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2014 07:54 AM (CMkNk)

26 Chilly house Winter survival tip

Get out of bed when the furnace shuts off. That's when the place is warmest.

Morning, Glories!

Posted by: mindful webworker & the cold toes at December 07, 2014 07:55 AM (ftdxp)

27
#CollapsingCampusRapeStories

AKA

#LyingLiarsGottaLie

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 07:55 AM (/dvmK)

28 Malevolent Magazines?

Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2014 07:55 AM (JdEZJ)

29
23 @14 - NYT first.
Posted by: JEM at December 07, 2014 07:53 AM (ZBGyR)

Works for me. A Christmas trifecta!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 07:56 AM (/dvmK)

30 Ghosts of Pearl Harbor must moan over the state of the nation. I know we the living do.

Posted by: mindful webworker & wars past at December 07, 2014 07:58 AM (ftdxp)

31 This morning Chicago news was reporting a chlorine gas problem at a hotel and quite a few people hospitalized.

The kicker is that the hotel was hosting the Midwest Fur Fest, a convention for those who dress up as furry characters.

Sure hope our own Ewok is safe.

https://tinyurl.com/kogeab7 (link to Chicago Tribune)

Posted by: Mustbequantum at December 07, 2014 08:00 AM (MIKMs)

32 73 years ago.

Posted by: eman at December 07, 2014 08:00 AM (MQEz6)

33 Its odd to think that WW2 started only 20 years before I was born. I never really thought about it that way before.

Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2014 08:04 AM (JdEZJ)

34 A pack and a half of Kools a day will do that to anyone's throat.

Posted by: dr kill at December 07, 2014 08:06 AM (jRgO6)

35 ....."it's that shitbox Dodge'".....

Posted by: redenzo at December 07, 2014 08:06 AM (WCnJW)

36 Posted by: dr kill at December 07, 2014 08:06 AM (jRgO6)

See my comment at #18.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 08:08 AM (sTzSd)

37
Hello from Way Down Here and "Tora Tora Tora" is on one of the movie channels - it's on every December 7th I reckon

Storms again tonight - my dear son was booked on a flight home to the Gold Coast at 6.25pm so we picked him up from his Dad's place ( my dear ex is very crook with cancer and has just had more surgery so the boy was here visiting)

Mega storm, roads flooded, lightning strikes everywhere but we got him to the airport in time

Arrived home and son rang, flight was cancelled butluckily he'd scored the last seat on another airline leaving at 8pm

He said that heaps of people were at the other airline's service desk, trying to get flights - he booked it online..

Sydney storms - all bloody week!
http://goo.gl/PdMWm4

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 08:10 AM (U+r+e)

38 "28
Malevolent Magazines?

Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2014 07:55 AM (JdEZJ)"

Mendacious Malevolent Magazine Mendicants

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 07, 2014 08:13 AM (PD6iL)

39 aussie is an 'ette?

How you doin'?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 07, 2014 08:14 AM (V70Uh)

40 "Sore throat," eh?

So that's what they're calling lines of blow these days ...

Believe nothing, kids.

Posted by: Jane58 at December 07, 2014 08:15 AM (oLZsm)

41 Good morning, horde.

A lot of nice coverage over at Stars and Stripes this morning. Link in nick.

Posted by: Y-not at December 07, 2014 08:15 AM (9BRsg)

42
Candy Crowley put out to pasture (or is it sty?) by CNN.

Her fifteen minutes of fame running interference for Barky were shameful, but she is incapable of feeling shame.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 08:17 AM (/dvmK)

43 I fear we have awaked a sleeping moron, and given him terrible resolve. . .

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2014 08:17 AM (fIv/H)

44 This 4 game playoff was an exercise in trying to placate moneyed
interests rather than the interests of the actual players, coaches
fans.
---

I really hate this National Championship nonsense. It and the insane focus on the Heisman Trophy are killing many of the nice traditions in college football. They've ruined things like the Rose Bowl, for me anyway.

Posted by: Y-not at December 07, 2014 08:18 AM (9BRsg)

45 Does anyone know if Wisconsin covered the spread?

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 08:20 AM (8ikIW)

46 Raining?
No golf.
Guess, I'll go to the doctor to have my throat checked out...
Else, golf.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Jackson suggested that Obama have the diagnostic test done on Saturday afternoon because the president had free time in his schedule. Rain kept Obama off the golf course, where he spends most Saturdays when the weather permits.

thegatewaypundit

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 07, 2014 08:22 AM (IXrOn)

47 I fear we have awaked a sleeping moron, and given him terrible resolve. . .

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2014 08:17 AM

Today, January 20, 2009, is a day that will live in infamy....

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 07, 2014 08:22 AM (yAC3X)

48
I really hate this National Championship nonsense. It and the insane focus on the Heisman Trophy are killing many of the nice traditions in college football.

I don't follow sports much -- football, NASCAR and hockey whenI do -- so I was astonished last week when I checked out the college football conferences and how much they've changed membership.

All in pursuit of baksheesh and a football championship (I suppose) whose title games still are not worthy of the name. Eight teams minimum, and don't give me the "stoojent athletes' studies will suffer" nonsense.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 08:23 AM (/dvmK)

49 Does anyone know if Wisconsin covered the spread?

It was around a three point spread FOR Wisconsin, so I don't think they covered the spread. Unless we get into that alternate universe thingy.

Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2014 08:24 AM (yjnf0)

50 @44 Y-not

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way.
After an amazing season, Ohio State and Oregan are NOT rewarded with the RoseBowl game.
Me thinks that the football gods will not be amused.

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at December 07, 2014 08:25 AM (1M/xn)

51
White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Jackson suggested that Obama have the diagnostic test done on Saturday afternoon because the president had free time in his schedule. Rain kept Obama off the golf course, where he spends most Saturdays when the weather permits.

Esophageal chlamydia can be a bitch...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 08:26 AM (/dvmK)

52 >>Does anyone know if Wisconsin covered the spread?

Cruel.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2014 08:26 AM (g1DWB)

53 Unless we get into that alternate universe thingy.

Posted by: RickZ

Maybe Wis. could claim they were raped by Ohio St.?

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 08:26 AM (8ikIW)

54 did you know that undrinkablewattoflye is an anagram for weirdflunkyonatablet?

Posted by: dr kill at December 07, 2014 08:27 AM (jRgO6)

55
39 Grampa Jimbo

Hi there, and very definitely an 'ette!

However my dear mother always said I should have been a bloke because of my love of car racing, cricket, rugby, and cycling...

And my lack of love of knitting, sewing, crocheting, etc

I can sew on a button though...

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 08:27 AM (U+r+e)

56 Sorry that the Yemen hostages got killed, but i am extremely pleased that we are now paying kidnappers with lead and not danegeld. I wish i had confidence that we could keep it up.

Posted by: Mann at the IPCC at December 07, 2014 08:27 AM (aEFlV)

57
Does anyone know if Wisconsin covered the spread?

Port whine cheese spread, perhaps.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 08:28 AM (/dvmK)

58 @45 Bruce

The spread was 4.5.
The over/under was 54.
Ohio State covered that by themselves.
Woody Hayes had a great day in heaven last night!

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at December 07, 2014 08:28 AM (1M/xn)

59 Smoking and heartburn. how do they work?

Posted by: dr kill at December 07, 2014 08:29 AM (jRgO6)

60 Bruce
I hear you neighbor. All these dem's escaping shitcago
moving into nice Repub. suburbs are really pissing me off. Had a guy stop by the house trying to drum up votes for his run for a seat on the DuPage county board as a democrat. He lives in Bensenville, and he said he had a plan to reduce the noise from O'Hare.
Hey asshole it is the democrats that shoved that O/Hare expansion down our throats. Chicago annexed parts of Bensenville so they could build new runways.
Oh, he lost.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 08:30 AM (FIrEF)

61 Posted by: dr kill at December 07, 2014 08:27 AM (jRgO6)

That was pretty freaking impressive right there. I don't even have snark for that. Wow.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 07, 2014 08:31 AM (sTzSd)

62 I watch the Wis games because usually Illinois does not have a good team, and the Bears are doing god knows what. They were playing well this season. I tuned in last night and saw it was 33-0. Then I saw that is was still the second quarter. So, being the good fan that I am, I went to bed. I saw the score this morning. I guess that's why I don't bet on sports teams.

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 08:31 AM (8ikIW)

63 I hear Team Fatbutt lost their playoff last night.

Posted by: --- at December 07, 2014 08:31 AM (MMC8r)

64

Replace This is Target! with AOSHQ!

too early?

http://tinyurl.com/mhumcdz

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 07, 2014 08:32 AM (IXrOn)

65 Picked up the Blues Brothers soundtrack on LP just a couple of days ago.

Posted by: --- at December 07, 2014 08:33 AM (MMC8r)

66 Welcome to the Hellmouth, krak. I grew up not far from the original Portillo's. Probably grew out a bit, too, lol. And there was no way of knowing it would become this huge chain. It was just a little white shack hot dog stand.

Posted by: Dollar Store Sock at December 07, 2014 08:33 AM (c+gwp)

67 Damn it's early

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2014 08:33 AM (W6Tct)

68 Maybe Wis. could claim they were raped by Ohio St.?

They were raped by Ohio State

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 08:33 AM (FIrEF)

69 The McDonald's ads on the site are in Spanish for me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 07, 2014 08:34 AM (H/dWx)

70
It's summer Down Under!

And it's BBQ time - so here is a very scientific study about what your choice of steak on the barbie says about you///

http://goo.gl/NpJ1lF

Me, I prefer some snags and even some prawns...

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 08:35 AM (U+r+e)

71 "I can sew on a button though..."

Ironically, I've got a button I need sewn.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 07, 2014 08:35 AM (H/dWx)

72
Its odd to think that WW2 started only 20 years before I was born. I never really thought about it that way before.

Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2014 08:04 AM (JdEZJ)
6 years before I was born. Mom and dad married in November 1942, dad in uniform. Dad shipped out soon after that to England, then to Africa, taking part in the Southern Invasion. Wounded twice, came home in Oct '45 and restarted his life. I was born in June of '47. Most of the kids I grew up had fathers and uncles who fought in WW2. Our connection to that war was very real and personal.

Posted by: thatcrazyguy at December 07, 2014 08:36 AM (TPimP)

73
9 Chicago is one city that makes me hope the Muslims do succeed in smuggling a nuke into this country. Philadelphia is another. As for Detroit, it is too late, there would be no point in nuking it.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 07, 2014

Well since we are a bit frisky this morning. May I suggest:
Madison
Berkeley
Ann Arbor
Austin
Boston
St. Louis
Minneapolis

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2014 08:36 AM (W6Tct)

74 um... snags?

Posted by: mindful webworker & autralianishness at December 07, 2014 08:37 AM (ftdxp)

75 "As for Detroit, it is too late, there would be no point in nuking it..."

---
Not sure about that.

Judging from the photos comparing present day Hiroshima with present day Detroit, getting nuked might actually help Detroit.

Posted by: Raspail at December 07, 2014 08:37 AM (4HYng)

76 Dollar Store Sock
I always forget if the first Potillos was in Villa park or Addison?

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 08:37 AM (FIrEF)

77 Some interesting steak names in that article, aussie.

What's a Scotch filet?

I didn't see NY Strip, which is what I tend to get.

Posted by: Y-not at December 07, 2014 08:38 AM (9BRsg)

78
71 Ricardo Kill

Hi, and I'd love to sew that button for you, however - Pacific Ocean!!!!

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 08:39 AM (U+r+e)

79
"snags" is sausages, I believe...

If so, great choice, aussie!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 08:40 AM (/dvmK)

80 This 4 game playoff was an exercise in trying to placate moneyed interests rather than the interests of the actual players, coaches & fans.

I was fine with the BCS process.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 07, 2014 08:40 AM (rwI+c)

81 " Pacific Ocean!"

Yeah, there is that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 07, 2014 08:40 AM (H/dWx)

82 via instapundit

Before Rolling Stone Was Conned By "Jackie" They Fell for "Billy"

http://www.bigtrial.net/2014/12/before-rolling-stone-was-conned-by.html

good grief
a sick pattern at the rolling stone?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 07, 2014 08:40 AM (IXrOn)

83
64

Replace This is Target! with AOSHQ!

too early?

http://tinyurl.com/mhumcdz
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 07, 2014 08:32 AM (IXrOn)

Dude was awesome. I was waiting for, "God's will, my Team Leader, would you and I alone without more help could serve these bargain hunters!"

Posted by: Dollar Store Sock at December 07, 2014 08:41 AM (c+gwp)

84 Dollar Store Sock

I always forget if the first Potillos was in Villa park or Addison?

Posted by: Cicero Skip

Villa Park. In the same parking lot as "Big R" a store similar to a Kmart. If you went shopping at the Big R with you mom on a Saturday, you might come out and find a coupon for the hot dogs and fries combo 4 for a dollar. Oh nirvana! Best Saturday lunches ever. Fast food restaurants were few and far between at the time.

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 08:41 AM (8ikIW)

85 Have the votes of the dead been fully counted in Louisiana yet? #MakeAllVotesCount!

Posted by: Zombie Mary Landrieu at December 07, 2014 08:41 AM (6um35)

86 Have the votes of the dead been fully counted in Louisiana yet? #MakeAllVotesCount!

Posted by: Zombie Mary Landrieu at December 07, 2014 08:41 AM (6um35)

87 ""snags" is sausages, I believe..."

Yep. Learned that bit of Aus-English from my shooting buddies down south.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 07, 2014 08:41 AM (H/dWx)

88 snags: Had no idea so looked it up. Aussie shorthand for sausages.

Well since we are a bit frisky this morning. May I suggest:
Madison
Berkeley
Ann Arbor
Austin
Boston
St. Louis
Minneapolis

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2014 08:36 AM (W6Tct)

What the hell? You want to leave Dearborn unscathed? With all those muzzie Fifth Columnists?

Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2014 08:41 AM (yjnf0)

89
74 mindful webworker

Aussie for sausages...

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 08:41 AM (U+r+e)

90 FBS selection board may have a tough day today, figuring out which teams will join Ohio State in the playoff.

Posted by: MTF at December 07, 2014 08:42 AM (6um35)

91 To kids born recently, the Vietnam War is as distant as WWI was to me, and as distant as the Civil War was to my Grandfather.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 07, 2014 08:43 AM (rwI+c)

92 Regarding that steak article, I love a good T bone, and I never clog the pipes by ordering a salad at a steak house.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 08:43 AM (FIrEF)

93 Most of the kids I grew up had fathers and uncles who fought in WW2. Our connection to that war was very real and personal. Posted by: thatcrazyguy at December 07, 2014 08:36 AM

Same here.

Godfather was a Navy combat photographer in the Pacific, and father was stationed at Pearl until November, '41 when he was sent stateside to recover from a plane crash. Flew PBYs on antisub patrol off the coast of CA during the war...bombed a couple of whales....

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 07, 2014 08:43 AM (yAC3X)

94
77 Y-not

Hello, and thank you for your great posts too!

Scotch fillet is what you call ribeye steak (I think)

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 08:43 AM (U+r+e)

95 Actually, doing the maths, the First World War was considerably closer to me than Vietnam would be to a kid born today.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 07, 2014 08:44 AM (rwI+c)

96 Scotch fillet is what you call ribeye steak (I think)

Posted by: aussie

Probably my favorite on the grill

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 08:44 AM (8ikIW)

97 I think the college football playoffs should be like the basketball. Top 64 teams get in. But then, since #65 complains, there should be a play-in game for the 64th seed.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 07, 2014 08:45 AM (NeFrd)

98 "..bombed a couple of whales...."

Better safe than sorry.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 07, 2014 08:46 AM (H/dWx)

99

my fav steaks (but, really depends on what's on sale, or what I'm in the mood for)

filet mignon
t-bone
prime rib

pretty equally

but, a nicley marinated flank steak is awesome - for fajitas and the like

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 07, 2014 08:46 AM (IXrOn)

100 Oh, ugh. Cold, grey morning, like a zombie channeling Madonna. slow motion twerking like an audio tape playback on a recorder with dying batteries.

ughly.

Posted by: The Crashing of Usher Castle at December 07, 2014 08:46 AM (fBRR+)

101 Oh and when I order the steak rare, that means don't f'ng make it medium. Cook it just enough to kill any bacteria on the outside, it's not a slab of ground meat.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 08:46 AM (FIrEF)

102 I see Bing has a picture of the Arizona Memorial today,

Just another day for Gurgle.

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 08:47 AM (8ikIW)

103
79 Krebs v Carnot

Just love that lovely aroma of snags on the barbie - if it wasn't 1am here, I'd fire up the thing and put some on right now...

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 08:48 AM (U+r+e)

104 Google; I wish I could quit them but they are still the best search engine out there for my purposes.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 07, 2014 08:48 AM (rwI+c)

105
97 I think the college football playoffs should be like the basketball. Top 64 teams get in. But then, since #65 complains, there should be a play-in game for the 64th seed.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 07, 2014 08:45 AM (NeFrd)

Ever so slightly OT:

We are the NFL's National Football Conference Southern Division and we agree!

We agree! We agree! We agree!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 08:48 AM (/dvmK)

106 Good morning. I'll think of something to say eventually. Whether it will be worth reading or not is another story.

Posted by: rickl at December 07, 2014 08:48 AM (sdi6R)

107
101 Oh and when I order the steak rare, that means don't f'ng make it medium. Cook it just enough to kill any bacteria on the outside, it's not a slab of ground meat.
----------------------------------------------------

Hear, hear. As we used to say in Texas, knock its horns off, wipe its butt, and serve it up.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 07, 2014 08:49 AM (sYUHT)

108
98 "..bombed a couple of whales...."
Better safe than sorry.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 07, 2014 08:46 AM (H/dWx)

In many ways, this is the story of Mary Landrieu...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 08:49 AM (/dvmK)

109 While I agree about an 8-team playoff, it won't solve any problems. They have 68 teams in the NCAA basketball tournament, yet every year, we have to listen to all the whining about why this team or that wasn't picked.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 07, 2014 08:50 AM (g4VbG)

110 Better safe than sorry. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 07, 2014 08:46 AM

Closest he came to combat during the patrols was an order to haul ass up the CA coast (200 miles or so) when a Japanese sub shelled an oilfield near Santa Barbara. Naturally, sub was long gone when they got there. Damage to the oilfield was minimal.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 07, 2014 08:50 AM (yAC3X)

111 >>Scotch fillet is what you call ribeye steak (I think)

It *might* be NY Strip based on the picture which shows a boneless steak.

Interesting that the Ribeye they show looks different from what I'm used to seeing here. The bone is protruding from the steak like a lollipop.

Posted by: Y-not at December 07, 2014 08:51 AM (9BRsg)

112 Cook it just enough to kill any bacteria on the outside, it's not a slab of ground meat.

Posted by: Cicero Skip

I went to a chain restaurant, the server asked how I wanted my burger and I said Medium. The server said they could only do medium well and well done. Whatever. Then she comes back with my ice tea and to save me time, she says, she squeezed my lemon in the tea for me. With her fingers that have been handling money and clearing dishes,

Um thanks a lot, Can I lick the floor in the bathroom now?

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 08:51 AM (8ikIW)

113
109 While I agree about an 8-team playoff, it won't solve any problems. They have 68 teams in the NCAA basketball tournament, yet every year, we have to listen to all the whining about why this team or that wasn't picked.
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 07, 2014 08:50 AM (g4VbG)

A corollary to the adage, "when everybody is special, then nobody is special"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 08:52 AM (/dvmK)

114 95 Actually, doing the maths, the First World War was considerably closer to me than Vietnam would be to a kid born today.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 07, 2014 08:44 AM (rwI+c)

*does math(s)*

Hmm. Using 1975 as the end of the Vietnam War, 2015 will be a tie for me. I was born in 1958.

Posted by: rickl at December 07, 2014 08:52 AM (sdi6R)

115 Hot dogs are great and all, but when I'm in Chicago, Italian beef is where it's at. Portillo's has good beef, but ANY beef is good beef when you can't get it anywhere else.

Posted by: Rex at December 07, 2014 08:52 AM (shQsB)

116 Most of the kids I grew up had fathers and uncles who fought in WW2. Our connection to that war was very real and personal.
Posted by: thatcrazyguy
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Same here.
And most of the men in the neighborhood.
Every now and then when the adults were talking, some war story would be obliquely told. Nothing unsuitable for children, generally something ironic or amusing.

Of course, Korea was still a very fresh experience. None of us as children understood or appreciated the fact that were surrounded by combat vets.

Once, a fellow addressed my scout group and discussed his experiences (the parts that a twelve year old could grasp) in a German POW camp.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2014 08:53 AM (U93Mr)

117 >>Godfather was a Navy combat photographer in the Pacific, and father was stationed at Pearl until November, '41 when he was sent stateside to recover from a plane crash. Flew PBYs on antisub patrol off the coast of CA during the war...bombed a couple of whales....

The area around me is covered with bunkers and sub watching posts. A U-boat was sunk off the coast of RI after it sunk a merchant ship off Point Judith. Still a popular dive spot.

German subs were all over the east coast.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2014 08:54 AM (g1DWB)

118 Grandpa was in WWII and Korea. Dad went to Nam. I went to college and failed but am doing ok now. Thanks Dad and Grandpa!

Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2014 08:54 AM (JdEZJ)

119 I always take time out to think of relatives that served, those that survived and those that did not, and of those that never had the chance thanks to the Germans.

Personally if there's going to be nukes flying one might hope Washington, DC is at the top of the list followed closely by NY City, LA, Morder on the Lake and other hives of Democrat degeneracy.

Posted by: Gmac- who is tired of all this at December 07, 2014 08:54 AM (baiNQ)

120
99 but a nicley marinated flank steak is awesome - for fajitas and the like

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I used to live in northern Virginia. There was a restaurant called Rio Grande/uncle Julio's that made the best fajitas. They were sold and went to shit, but I would give my left kidney for their beef fajita marinade recipe.

Posted by: Coasting at December 07, 2014 08:55 AM (93bH6)

121 Sausages. Well why don't you just say so?

Everything in Brit and Aussie is in code. If it's not silly words like boot, lorry, lift, spanner, it's infantilizations like brekkie and barbie.

I'm glad American isn't like that, by Godfrey.

Posted by: mindful webworker - culchuh buff at December 07, 2014 08:56 AM (ftdxp)

122 To kids born recently, the Vietnam War is as distant as WWI was to me, and as distant as the Civil War was to my Grandfather.
Posted by: toby928
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Two of my g-grandfathers were Civil War vets.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2014 08:57 AM (U93Mr)

123 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?! NO!! It's not over, until WE say it's over!!

Posted by: Bluto at December 07, 2014 08:57 AM (sYUHT)

124
Once, a fellow addressed my scout group and discussed his experiences (the parts that a twelve year old could grasp) in a German POW camp.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2014 08:53 AM (U93Mr)

My sixth grade teacher, Mr. Dixon, had been an AAF pilot of a B-24 Liberator and spent a year as a POW in a German camp. He seldom spoke of it and never provided any details when he did. To do so would not have been germane to his task on hand, I guess.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 07, 2014 08:57 AM (/dvmK)

125 I totally deserved the Heisman Trophy. That Marshall Faulk dude never amounted to anything.

Posted by: GinoTorretta at December 07, 2014 08:58 AM (V70Uh)

126 Every father in the neighborhood when I grew up (60s) was a vet of WWII or Korea, or both. Even my minister had been a tailgunner in a B-24. And NONE of them talked about it with us, as we ran around playing model war or bangbang war. Which we did constantly.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 07, 2014 09:00 AM (sYUHT)

127
111 Y-not

Yes the ribeye has that bone poking out - that's how we know it's a ribeye steak!

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 09:00 AM (U+r+e)

128 Posted by: Gmac- who is tired of all this at December 07, 2014 08:54 AM

Would be nice to think that the liberal shitweasels would reap what they've sown without the rest of us getting hurt, but that's not how any of this works.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 07, 2014 09:01 AM (yAC3X)

129 Once, a fellow addressed my scout group and discussed his experiences (the parts that a twelve year old could grasp) in a German POW camp.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2014 08:53 AM (U93Mr)

Back in Catholic grade school about 6th or 7th grade (1967?), one of my classmate's father came to give us a talk on his experiences as a POW of the Japanese (he was on the Bataan Death March). Quite eye opening for us kids (whose parents almost never talked about the horrors of the war). The talk also explained why he walked so stiff: He had a broken back from Japanese torture.

Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2014 09:01 AM (yjnf0)

130 so aussie's mouth waters when she sees a bone poking out? hello, Expedia? book me a freighter to Oz!

Posted by: goatexchange at December 07, 2014 09:02 AM (sYUHT)

131 German subs were all over the east coast.
Posted by: JackStraw
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For the first 6 months, they enjoyed almost free rein off of the East coast. At least 70 ships lost to subs off of the the NC coast.

My mother (who was in Charleston) talked of being able to see night time explosions at sea off the coast.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2014 09:02 AM (U93Mr)

132 My dad joined the Navy in 1940 when the draft started, because he didn't want to go into the Army. I presume he had heard enough horror stories about WWI. Also, his father had been in the Navy during WWI.

His ship was based in Pearl Harbor, but he missed the attack. He was ferrying a squadron of fighter planes to Midway when the news came. He said he saw Pearl a week before and a week after the attack.

Posted by: rickl at December 07, 2014 09:02 AM (sdi6R)

133
121 mindful webworker

I'm educating you on Aussie culture - that's my job here !

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 09:03 AM (U+r+e)

134 Villa Park. In the same parking lot as "Big R" a store similar to a
Kmart. If you went shopping at the Big R with you mom on a Saturday, you
might come out and find a coupon for the hot dogs and fries combo 4 for
a dollar. Oh nirvana! Best Saturday lunches ever. Fast food restaurants
were few and far between at the time.

That was a little A frame hut on North Ave. right? I see there are a few of us from the area.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 09:03 AM (ahBY0)

135 And NONE of them talked about it with us, as we ran around playing model war or bangbang war. Which we did constantly.
Posted by: goatexchange
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Toy soldiers, tanks, planes, were all in abundance.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2014 09:04 AM (U93Mr)

136 >>> Is it too much to ask for both The New Republic and Rolling Stone to be burned to the ground, their sites salted and their ashes scattered to the four winds by this time next year?

I prefer a slower, crueler slide into the dust. Maybe hang in there long enough for Stephen Glass to buy them both for a dollar.

Posted by: fluffy at December 07, 2014 09:04 AM (Ua6T/)

137 I prefer a slower, crueler slide into the dust.
----------------

Suck the 'intellectual' and financial coffers dry.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2014 09:05 AM (U93Mr)

138 * scurries off to get ready for Church *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2014 09:06 AM (U93Mr)

139 WWII started today and a lot of us are here today because Harry dropped the nuke. My father - 3 years fighting in Europe - was on his way to the Pacific when it occurred. Harry was a hero to a lot of GIs. A democrat with guts. Strange.

Posted by: oldgeezer at December 07, 2014 09:07 AM (Y6I8M)

140 For the first 6 months, they enjoyed almost free rein off of the East coast. At least 70 ships lost to subs off of the the NC coast.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2014 09:02 AM (U93Mr)

I've mentioned this before: On the island of Ocracoke, in the Outer Banks, there is a cemetery with British seamen (identified and unknown) who are buried there after their bodies washed up on shore after their ships were sunk in the Battle of the Atlantic. That cemetery is (as far as I know) the only land in the US considered to be foreign soil that is not an embassy. Every morning and night, the local Coasties raise and lower the Union Jack with full military honors. I've been privileged to see the ceremony hauling down the Union Jack (never was on the island early enough for the flag raising).

Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2014 09:08 AM (yjnf0)

141 126 Every father in the neighborhood when I grew up (60s) was a vet of WWII or Korea, or both. Even my minister had been a tailgunner in a B-24. And NONE of them talked about it with us, as we ran around playing model war or bangbang war. Which we did constantly.

I once brought home a draw give had done in first grade, a plane or ship in flames. My progressive minded mother told me I shouldn't do that, lest it disturb a vet, or some such.

I confined my war porn to home after that.

Posted by: fluffy at December 07, 2014 09:08 AM (Ua6T/)

142 Want to play a game of Global Thermonuclear War?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 07, 2014 09:09 AM (V70Uh)

143
130 goatexchange

What makes me think you're not talking about steak bones? *shocked face*

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 09:09 AM (U+r+e)

144 "And NONE of them talked about it with us"

My uncle fought in the Pacific. Army. Phillipines mainly. He would only talk sparingly of it but I do remember the one time he told us about an ambush they laid for the Japanese. They were ordered to hold fire until "the could literally reach out and touch them" in his words. Dense jungle fighting.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 07, 2014 09:10 AM (H/dWx)

145 139 WWII started today and a lot of us are here today because Harry dropped the nuke. My father - 3 years fighting in Europe - was on his way to the Pacific when it occurred.
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You got that right! my dad commanded a 40mm AAA unit in the Philippines when the war ended. def invasion fodder. thanks Harry!

Posted by: goatexchange at December 07, 2014 09:10 AM (sYUHT)

146 When I was in 8th grade in 1964, the Father of one of my classmates was invited to come to school to talk about D Day. he was Airborne, and brought his Garand to school. Can't imagine that happening today

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 09:10 AM (FIrEF)

147 That was a little A frame hut on North Ave. right? I see there are a few of us from the area.

Posted by: dartist

Yes. It looked similar to a dog house on wheels. In the newer Portillos they usually have a picture of the first "store"

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 09:11 AM (8ikIW)

148 >>For the first 6 months, they enjoyed almost free rein off of the East coast. At least 70 ships lost to subs off of the the NC coast.

And if you tell that to most kids today they think you're nuts. My little state was hugely involved in the WWII effort, mostly Navy focused given our orientation toward the ocean. Seabees were founded on one side of the bay, huge Navy base and the training base for PT boat captains on the other. Today that base is a marina and people walk by the monuments and historical markings as if they weren't there.

I think I'll take the dog for a walk down by the monuments today. Seems fitting.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2014 09:12 AM (g1DWB)

149 I see there are a few of us from the area.
dartist at December 07, 2014 09:03 AM

Well I grew up in Cicero, and live in Elmhurst now.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 09:13 AM (FIrEF)

150 WWII started today

I've always dated WWII as starting in 1931, when the Japanese invaded Manchuria. Don't forget our riverboat, the USS Panay, was sunk by the Japanese on the Yangtze River in 1937.

Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2014 09:13 AM (yjnf0)

151 In the past, the Democrats used to use Rape Hoax, i.e.. that

All Black Men wanted to rape White Women and used false accusations of rape against Black Men-

in order to gain and hold power.

Now, the Democrats use Rape Hoax, i.e.. that-

All Young White Men want to rape Any Woman and use false accusations against Young White Men

in order to gain and hold power.

The Democrats never change they are an evil party led by evil people manipulating stupid/ignorant people.

They need to be driven out of American politics and influence-

as they only divide the country, sow hate, and cripple us as a nation.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2014 09:14 AM (KBvAm)

152
76 Dollar Store Sock
I always forget if the first Potillos was in Villa park or Addison?

Villa Park. 83 & St. Charles-ish is the one I'm thinking of. Unless I'm wrong, which is always possible.

Posted by: Dollar Store Sock at December 07, 2014 09:14 AM (c+gwp)

153 My uncle joined the Marines a few years before the war and ended up in Hawaii in the Mounted or Horse Marines. I wish I could find more info on them but there's not much out there. Hawaii had to be a fun place in the late 30s. He was there when Pearl was attacked and then fought and was wounded on Saipan. I ended up with his house when he passed so I'm extra proud to hope his spirit is still visiting and hitting my liquor cabinet from time to time. I'll be pulling one up for Unc later.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 09:15 AM (ahBY0)

154 Imperial Japan is now long gone.

Replaced by Hello Kitty and J-Pop.

Posted by: eman at December 07, 2014 09:15 AM (MQEz6)

155
More pics of the storms today in Sydney - more of what we've experienced for the past week...

http://goo.gl/Fm5rSX

And as I posted this I just thought how fortunate we were, compared to those poor people in the Philippines, who are going through some horrific times because of that typhoon...I will stop whinging about these comparatively harmless storms we're having daily

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 09:15 AM (U+r+e)

156 Oh, Bruce answered already. Sorry!

Posted by: Dollar Store Sock at December 07, 2014 09:16 AM (c+gwp)

157 150
I've always dated WWII as starting in 1931, when the Japanese invaded Manchuria. Don't forget our riverboat, the USS Panay, was sunk by the Japanese on the Yangtze River in 1937.

Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2014 09:13 AM (yjnf0)

I wonder how future historians will date the start of WWIII. Maybe it's already begun and we just don't know it yet?

Posted by: rickl at December 07, 2014 09:16 AM (sdi6R)

158 Ribeye, baby!

I'm adventurous and carefree.

Now, I'm off to harpoon a whale or something....

Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2014 09:19 AM (KBvAm)

159 I was in H.S. when the film "Tora Tora Tora" came out. Me and my best friend saw it at the drive-in and really enjoyed it. The next day we were telling my friends' father about the film. Turns out he was there when it happened. He was a civilian worker, and told us since there was nothing they could do, he and his fellow workers sat up on a hillside and watched the attack. Then helped clean up for the next number of weeks.

He also told us of the dangers of being out at night the next few days after the attack. Apparently people were quite jumpy, assuming Japan was going to invade the Islands.

Posted by: HH at December 07, 2014 09:19 AM (Ce4DF)

160 >>> I wonder how future historians will date the start of WWIII. Maybe it's already begun and we just don't know it yet?

Someone put it at June 5, 1968.

Posted by: fluffy at December 07, 2014 09:21 AM (Ua6T/)

161 Well I grew up in Cicero, and live in Elmhurst now.

You could nearly walk to my house, depending where you are in Elmhurst. I hate to get too detailed here but Red Dragon has the best Chinese food in the area.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 09:22 AM (ahBY0)

162 157 150
I've always dated WWII as starting in 1931, when the Japanese invaded Manchuria. Don't forget our riverboat, the USS Panay, was sunk by the Japanese on the Yangtze River in 1937.

Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2014 09:13 AM (yjnf0)

I wonder how future historians will date the start of WWIII. Maybe it's already begun and we just don't know it yet?
Posted by: rickl at December 07, 2014 09:16 AM (sdi6R)

Old-fashioned invasion, conquest, annexation seems to be gone due to nuclear weapons and international trade.

Sadly, religious fanatics don't give a shit.

Posted by: eman at December 07, 2014 09:23 AM (MQEz6)

163 Villa Park. 83 St. Charles-ish is the one I'm thinking of. Unless I'm wrong, which is always possible.

That's where Portillos is now. I believe the original was further west on North Ave. Maybe around Ardmore?

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 09:25 AM (ahBY0)

164 dartist's uncle
thatcrazyguy's dad
mrscribbler's godfather (whale bomber)
freaked's dad and granddad
Gmac's relatives
KrevsvCarnot's sixth grade teacher
goatexchange's father, neighborhood dads and minister
RickZ's classmate's father
rickl's dad
oldgeezer's father
The Brit sailors at Ocracoke
Ricardo Kill's father in the dense jungle
JackStraw's memorials

And I'll add in my own dad- Field Artillery at Anzio and on into southern France and Germany at the end.

Thanks one and all for the service and sacrifices.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 07, 2014 09:28 AM (NeFrd)

165 How long until remembering Pearl Harbor is officially racist? I'm sure it probably already is in various academic and urban-hipster corners.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 07, 2014 09:29 AM (yxw0r)

166 http://instagram.com/p/wTmPRqzYXW/ Here is what Chicago looked like this morning.

Posted by: Jeffrey Carter (@pointsnfigures) at December 07, 2014 09:31 AM (LnE5F)

167 Remember Pearl Harbor today.
http://pointsandfigures.com/2014/12/07/remember-pearl-harbor/

Posted by: Jeffrey Carter (@pointsnfigures) at December 07, 2014 09:32 AM (LnE5F)

168 Thanks one and all for the service and sacrifices.

To all of them and your dad Seamus. IIRC Sefton has a relative who served in Saipan as well.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 09:33 AM (ahBY0)

169 Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2014 09:14 AM (KBvAm)

Exactly right, the playbook of evil never changes.

There are many more examples of Dem-then and Dem-now that could be cited.

It's why I prefer burn, salt, scatter.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 07, 2014 09:33 AM (OCcU9)

170 I doubt that this planet will ever see another wide national effort for right versus wrong such as our parents engaged in during the early 1940's. Perhaps the nature of mass communications of the day had something to do with it. Not as fractured and fragmented as current society. Maybe just a different definition of "we" was in vogue.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 07, 2014 09:33 AM (NeFrd)

171 @datist #183. Original Portillos was on St. Chas Road in VP. I went to high school with Dick's kids. He just sold the chain to a PE company for $1B.

Posted by: Jeffrey Carter (@pointsnfigures) at December 07, 2014 09:33 AM (LnE5F)

172 Seamus Muldoon,

I didn't mention my Dad and his four brothers who survived the war; one of my favorite uncles by marriage also survived the war in Europe. One uncle was at Hickam Field on December 7th. One uncle spoke so many languages (my father's family came here from the Austro-Hungarian Empire) he was in Army Intelligence in Europe.

My dad served 22 years, from 1940 to 1962. He was delayed in being discharged in '62 thanks to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2014 09:34 AM (yjnf0)

173 @datist #183. Original Portillos was on St. Chas
Road in VP. I went to high school with Dick's kids. He just sold the
chain to a PE company for $1B.

Posted by: Jeffrey Carter (@pointsnfigures)

I had read that he sold it to. I hope the PE doesn't fcuk with it.

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 09:35 AM (8ikIW)

174 I had read that he sold it to...should be too

Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2014 09:36 AM (8ikIW)

175 If you assume a 17-year-old enlisted in '45 at the tail end of the war, that man (youngest of WWII vets) would be 86 or 87 years old now.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 07, 2014 09:39 AM (NeFrd)

176
News from the Northern Territory here in OZ

Clever person who rearranges spice jars in the supermarket...to spell certain words beloved by some who frequent this place...

http://goo.gl/Ozq2KE

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 09:40 AM (U+r+e)

177 Jeffrey...that's quite a few of us here within drinking distance.

Like someone said up thread, every dad in my area was in WW2 when we were kids. I remember one year someone dressed us up in Navy, Marine and Army costumes for Halloween and the dads mock arguing who was better. So many stories gone now.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 09:41 AM (ahBY0)

178 Holee smokes. A billion. Wow.

Posted by: Dollar Store Sock at December 07, 2014 09:42 AM (c+gwp)

179 What's forgotten today is that many of the men who fought in WW2, were first generation Americans, such as my dad. His parents immigrated from what was Austria-Hungary (as did my mom's parents). They went off to war to possibly fight and kill cousins, uncles or family members they never met. And, yet, they went. And got the job done. And, as has been mentioned many times, did not talk about their experiences very much. My dad passed away in 2003, still bearing the scars on his back from an incoming artillary shell in France. I am forever grateful to him and his comrades in arms for keeping us free. It's a shame that so many in my generation did not share that sentiment. However, all the "kids" I grew up with all feel as I do. I guess growing up in a small town in the 50's does that. 22 years years after my dad was discharged, his son received his draft notice.

Posted by: thatcrazyguy at December 07, 2014 09:42 AM (TPimP)

180 176
Clever person who rearranges spice jars in the supermarket...to spell certain words beloved by some who frequent this place...

http://goo.gl/Ozq2KE

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 09:40 AM (U+r+e)

Heh.

Posted by: rickl at December 07, 2014 09:44 AM (sdi6R)

181
If you assume a 17-year-old enlisted in '45 at the tail end of the war,
that man (youngest of WWII vets) would be 86 or 87 years old now.

My dad is the last one left around here and he's 90. Not many of that generation left.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 09:46 AM (ahBY0)

182
Bedtime here so...

Have a wonderful yesterday everyone, and it's Monday here!

Snakes in the bedroom..

http://goo.gl/8JB2uA

Nightynight all!

Posted by: aussie at December 07, 2014 09:46 AM (U+r+e)

183 Thanks as always, aussie, for your messages from the future!

Posted by: rickl at December 07, 2014 09:47 AM (sdi6R)

184 night aussie. Have a nice tomorrow.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 09:48 AM (ahBY0)

185 My father's company shipped out to the Philippines just before Pearl Harbor.
He had a leave because his mother was ill.
His company ended up in the Bataan Death March.
He ended up starting the war by guarding Japanese-Americans outside SF.
Later, he was running around Belgium during the Battle of the Bulge.

Posted by: Neo at December 07, 2014 09:53 AM (e8kgV)

186 If we had empathized more with the Japanese, Pearl Harbor might never happened.

Posted by: Bill's coat tail at December 07, 2014 09:53 AM (xvd51)

187 A large part of my dad's unit's function was counter artillery, identifying and trying to neutralize German artillery units in support of ground operations. While he was at Anzio he got to inspect an unexploded shell from one of the German big Bertha railroad guns. Huge caliber with some type of double rifling grooves.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 07, 2014 09:56 AM (NeFrd)

188 You could nearly walk to my house, depending where you are in Elmhurst.

I have been known to walk south to that area on occasion. Usually to recover one of the kids and their car after partying too much.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 09:57 AM (FIrEF)

189 My father's company shipped out to the Philippines just before Pearl Harbor.
He had a leave because his mother was ill.
His company ended up in the Bataan Death March.

Talk about luck, damn. There's a small town here that named the main drag through it Bataan for all the guys who got caught up in the Death March. Hard to imagine the brutality.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 09:58 AM (ahBY0)

190 Bataan for all the guys who got caught up in the Death March. Hard to imagine the brutality.

And today we have ISIS, who we are supposed to empahasize with. ckuf you Hillary

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 10:03 AM (FIrEF)

191 From Dad's diary-

Apr 11, 1944

"Bomb Disposal brought in an unusual specimen today, a 280 mm dud. It has 12 longitudinal rotating strips instead of the usual band. Length: about 3 1/2 ft. Wt: over 500 lbs. Range is unknown but it is bound to be a very long range gun."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 07, 2014 10:04 AM (NeFrd)

192 Stated working at a die shop in 1971 where we had, one guy that was a POW in Germany.
One guy that was a tail gunner in Europe, and he Worked right next to a German uboat POW that wound up picking oranges in Arizona. Just about every older guy there was a vet.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 10:07 AM (FIrEF)

193 I've always felt we should have handled 9/11 like we did to end the war with Japan. These assholes will drag two generations of 18 year olds through that shithole sandbox before it's over if they have their way.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 10:09 AM (ahBY0)

194 From Dad's diary-

Apr 11, 1944

Nice, what a great thing to have.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 10:10 AM (ahBY0)

195 193 I've always felt we should have handled 9/11 like we did to end the war with Japan. These assholes will drag two generations of 18 year olds through that shithole sandbox before it's over if they have their way.
Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 10:09 AM (ahBY0)

These kinds of open-ended wars can't be good for recruitment, retention, or morale.

Posted by: rickl at December 07, 2014 10:19 AM (sdi6R)

196 Nice, what a great thing to have.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 10:10 AM (ahBY0)

****

Yeah, every time I read it I find some little pearl. For instance, this [Dad sometimes flew in a little two seater artillery observation plane- this is at Anzio again]:

26 Mar 1944- Had my first "Cub" ride along the front the 25th. Very quiet. A 155 shell came buzzing very close to the plane to add to the interest."

27 Mar 1944- Just to show how close those things can come, a plane from 1st Armd was hit by a 155 today. Both men killed, plane total wreck.

I astonishes me how matter of fact-ly he describes certain close calls.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 07, 2014 10:23 AM (NeFrd)

197 Seamus...My dad was born in 24 and I kid him that he's so old that he was 4 when Wyatt Earp died. His Grandfather was around during the Civil War. I hope you have someone to pass your dad's stuff down to preserve history. My dad gave me a little .32 Beretta that he took off of a German soldier that is in such good shape it doesn't look like it was ever fired. Has the slip of paper signed by his company commander releasing it tucked into the holster. I would love to fire it but I can't bring myself to do it.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 10:44 AM (ahBY0)

198 Go to johnnies on north av in elm hurst for an Italian beef!

Posted by: Pj at December 07, 2014 10:48 AM (TH6yl)

199 Go to johnnies on north av in elm hurst for an Italian beef!

Or make your own!
http://www.hungrybrowser.com/phaedrus/m0402F04.htm#3

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 10:57 AM (ahBY0)

200 Go to johnnies on north av in elm hurst for an Italian beef!
Johnnies is in Elmwood park.
And if I want to eat bread with 3 slices of Italinan beef I would go to Johnnies.
My Aunt worked there for awhile. She was told to put the beef on the bread and kind of fluff it up so it looks like there is more.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 07, 2014 10:57 AM (FIrEF)

201 Has the slip of paper signed by his company commander releasing it tucked into the holster. I would love to fire it but I can't bring myself to do it.

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I agree, it somehow wouldn't seem right. In one passage, my dad mentions watching an artillery battery in action and describes the howitzers as "beautiful, if a gun can be described with that word." Maybe there is a symbolism in your dad's German gun remaining silent that is fitting.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 07, 2014 11:03 AM (NeFrd)

202 Blessings to all the offspring of the veterans. Here's my Dad's story. He was WWII Pacific Theater: On a date with a nurse, they were out in a Jeep and got ambushed by 6 Japanese. None of the attackers lived (they would not surrender). Anyway, the nurse took an ear off each of them for trophies. He never went out with that nurse again. ( Pop didn't do the ear thing )

Posted by: Tom_Ohio at December 07, 2014 11:06 AM (Zz48T)

203 New Pearl Harbor thread.

Posted by: dartist at December 07, 2014 11:08 AM (ahBY0)

204 My hometown was HQ for the Atlantic Seaboard destroyer fleet at that time, so I grew up in the 50s with stories about the submarine threat, especially the one off Point Judith. The dads of some of my friends were WW II Navy and Marine vets so we heard some carefully worded stories about the war. They didn't make it 'glorious' but it was damn eye-opening and more than kids' history books ever explained.

My parents and grand parents ran a nursing home, not rehab but for those needing 24 hour care. One of the patients was a Navy Captain who just barely survived Pearl Harbor. He went into early dementia after retirement and spent the last weeks of his life reliving the attack, screaming for hours at a time at the horror and loss. Let's just say that made an impression on a youngster.

Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2014 11:36 AM (FvdPb)

205 There's a Portillo's on Lake Street in Bloomingdale, near the 290/53 interchange.

I typed that with a Chicago accent.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 07, 2014 12:35 PM (Dhdnu)

206 And in consideration of our Aussie lassie friend posting from Down Under, I present for her honor and fellow AoS denizens' education the lyrics to the Aussie Barbeque song:

When the summer sun is shining on Australia's happy land

Round countless fires, in strange attire in many solemn bands

Of glum Australians watching as the lunch goes up in flames

By the smoke and the smell you can plainly tell, that it's barby time again

When the steaks are burning fiercely, when the smoke gets in your eyes

When the snacks all taste like fried toothpaste and your mouth is full of flies

It's a national institution, it's Australian through and through

So come on mate and grab your plate, let's have a barbeque!

The Scots eat lots of haggis, the French eat snails and frogs

The Greeks go crackers on their mousakkas, and the Chinese love hot dogs

The Welshmen love to have a leek, the Irish like their stew

But you just can't beat that half-cooked meat at an Aussie barbeque

When the steaks are burning fiercely, when the smoke gets in your eyes

When the snacks all taste like fried toothpaste and your mouth is full of flies

It's a national institution, it's Australian through and through

So come on mate and grab your plate, let's have a barbeque

There's flies stuck to the margarine, the bread has gone rock hard

The kids are fighting and the mossies are biting, who forgot the Aeroguard?

There's bull ants in the eskie, and the beer is running out

And what you saw in Mom's cole slaw, you just don't talk about

When the steaks are burning fiercely, when the smoke gets in your eyes

When the snacks all taste like fried toothpaste and your mouth is full of flies

It's a national institution, it's Australian through and through

So come on mate and grab your plate, let's have a barbeque

And when the barby's over and your homeward way you wend

With a queazy tummy on the family dummy, many lonely hours you'll spend

You might find yourself reflecting, like many often do

Come rain or shine that's the bloody last time that you'll have a barbeque!

When the steaks are burning fiercely, when the smoke gets in your eyes

When the snacks all taste like fried toothpaste and your mouth is full of flies

It's a national institution, it's Australian through and through

So come on mate and grab your plate, let's have a barbeque

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