EMT: 12/06/14 - Heading to the Gun Show Edition. [krakatoa]

Happy Saturday, early risers.

Dallas wasn't horrible. The weather sucked. The job took longer than it should have. I ended up staying an extra day I didn't need to playing email tag with people who apparently don't know the rules of the game.

But the hotel was nice. (Platinum Premiere for Marriott does have its perks.) And the Tom Ka Gai and Phở I enjoyed at the Indian & Vietnamese restaurants right next to the work site really hit the spot. And I got to catch the final episode of Foo Fighters's HBO series "Sonic Highways" -- if you love geeking out on local music scenes, I definitely recommend watching it.

Today is the big day for moving on from the Taurus TCP as a CCW. I've given it a lot of thought, read lots of reviews, and double checked the cash supply.

Depending on the prices today, I'm getting one of 2 pistols.

I'll fill you guys in on the final selection next week, after I've had a chance to either affirm or regret my choice at the range.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:32 AM

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1 I guess someone has to start things off...Good Morning!

Posted by: Molly k. at December 06, 2014 07:29 AM (yJLQ2)

2 Caturday starts early.

Posted by: Ook? at December 06, 2014 07:29 AM (E/isQ)

3 Damn its early.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 06, 2014 07:31 AM (A7LEa)

4
*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 06, 2014 07:31 AM (1hhNr)

5 And raining here again.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 06, 2014 07:31 AM (A7LEa)

6 Good morning.
The pic is stretching the margins.
Thanks for the new thread.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 07:32 AM (KeRzR)

7 Good morning Molly.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 06, 2014 07:32 AM (A7LEa)

8 And Teej.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 06, 2014 07:33 AM (A7LEa)

9 You can bet that *militarized thug cat* is just itchin' to shoot a dog.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 06, 2014 07:34 AM (tyrpf)

10 The cats who like to go onto the screened in porch before daylight showed no enthusiasm for it this am. I guess they are sick of the rain too.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 06, 2014 07:34 AM (A7LEa)

11 "MORE LAWS"

Posted by: Di blasio at December 06, 2014 07:35 AM (WCnJW)

12 Ah, the gun show....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 07:35 AM (jEhvI)

13 Tangonine was posting in the ONT so he's back safe.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 06, 2014 07:36 AM (A7LEa)

14 I get to vote today

I get to vote today.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 06, 2014 07:36 AM (0xTsz)

15 Morning right back at ya FH.
And to you miss Molly.
Yeah, and all the rest of you knot heads, yayhoos, hooligans, scamps and imps that show up too.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 07:37 AM (KeRzR)

16 Need to play the Hillabilly's hillbilly theme song to wake everyone up!

Hillabilly 2016!!!

Posted by: USA at December 06, 2014 07:37 AM (m8hf7)

17 Here's some gun related news -- Daily Mail has some info on how the Austin shooter was taken down.

By a cop using a S and W 40 cal handgun from 312 feet away; a one handed shot, no less.

http://tinyurl.com/p5on5qq

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 06, 2014 07:38 AM (tyrpf)

18 Today would be a good to do some target practice if it wasn't raining, did I say I'm sick of so much rain.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 06, 2014 07:38 AM (A7LEa)

19 Good luck on the new CCW piece, hope you find the one you want at a good price.

Good morning pixel people, raining but warm, 64, this AM. I'm heading out back to my bike barn to do some connector reconditioning on one of my XS1100's that 'suddenly' developed issues shortly after it arrived. Its all good though because I love to tinker with them.

Coffee first, then fun fun fun chasing electrical gremlins.

Posted by: Gmac- who is tired of all this at December 06, 2014 07:38 AM (baiNQ)

20 White girl don't riot alot.

Posted by: Di blasio at December 06, 2014 07:38 AM (WCnJW)

21 14 Mama AJ,

Do you get to vote against Edwin Edwards, too?

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 06, 2014 07:40 AM (tyrpf)

22 check these out ,
depending on skill level and daily use,
very dependable and concealable...
Your skill level and control of Buck Fever will determine shot placement.

Bersa Thunder 380 cc model, Accurate

Experienced?

Beretta 32 Tom Cat..

2 models to use everyday...
c
You probably can get both for the price of some other model that's just an upsale...from the local Gunshop sales warrior who read a manual..

Posted by: Chauncey from Owen at December 06, 2014 07:40 AM (/WmRg)

23 A 104 yd shot with a semi auto pistol.
Wonder how much drop a .40 cal has at that range.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 07:40 AM (KeRzR)

24 " from 312 feet away"

Damn.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 07:42 AM (jEhvI)

25 "Depending on the prices today, I'm getting one of 2 pistols."

So what are they? Don't we get a vote? Don't you value our opinion?......I'm beginning to feel like a victim here.

Posted by: BignJames at December 06, 2014 07:43 AM (j7iSn)

26 Moar gun news, this time bad -- Remington is recalling almost 8 million Model 700 and Model 7 rifles for a trigger problem:

http://tinyurl.com/pschqus

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 06, 2014 07:43 AM (tyrpf)

27 Mama AJ, we know we can count on you to vote your gender!

Posted by: Loopy Lefties of La. at December 06, 2014 07:44 AM (tHAoL)

28 Probably not much drop at 100 yds teej but he would just need to shoot center mass for a hit anyhow.

Posted by: Gmac- who is tired of all this at December 06, 2014 07:44 AM (baiNQ)

29 "Remington is recalling almost 8 million Model 700 and Model 7 rifles for a trigger problem:"

Sounds like Remington alright.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 07:46 AM (jEhvI)

30 Bruce Willis makes 314 ft shots all the time...
Most have trained to 225 feet or 75 yards with 9mm FS
But Bruce get's paid to make those shots.

Posted by: Chauncey from Owen at December 06, 2014 07:46 AM (/WmRg)

31 And today Mary 'All my homies are racist!' Landriue squares off against Cassidy in LSU Stadium.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2014 07:47 AM (X8n03)

32 Read about that yesterday GnuBreed.
I've only fired one model 700. It was a .338 Lapua and was, of course, set up for distance stuff. The trigger wasn't factory specs as you can imagine.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 07:47 AM (KeRzR)

33 .40 doesn't have .357 Sig's flat trajectory, so a 100 yard stop is extra incredible.

I've been carrying a P229 for a while, but Santa's convinced me to switch to a P224. Sig's DA/SA with a decocker isn't for everyone, but the Sig short reset triggers are pretty incredible.

Posted by: Chupacabras at December 06, 2014 07:49 AM (o7UW9)

34 Morning, Glories!

Gun thread is up early today, I see.

(Never too early?)

Posted by: mindful webworker at December 06, 2014 07:49 AM (tHAoL)

35 Several places are reporting that the latest American hostage, Luke Somers, a photojournalist, was killed during an attempted rescue.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 06, 2014 07:50 AM (tyrpf)

36 Just against Mary.

I may skip in and out of the voting booth.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 06, 2014 07:50 AM (0xTsz)

37 From ABC

But soon intelligence reports came in that Somers and the other hostage had died of gunshot wounds from their captors, who shot them as operators from the U.S. Navy's SEAL Team Six bore down on the hostage site and killed AQAP fighters holding the freelance photojournalist, the counter-terrorism official told ABC News.

A defense official said that initial reports indicated Somers had been shot by his captors, but was still taken to the American amphibious ship USS Makin Island just offshore. It's unclear when exactly Somers died.

U.S. and Yemeni counter-terrorism forces had been inserted into the country by rotary aircraft and no American special operations forces were injured in the raid, the official said. Six AQAP fighters were killed.

Posted by: USA at December 06, 2014 07:51 AM (m8hf7)

38 "U.S. and Yemeni counter-terrorism forces had been inserted into the country by rotary aircraft"

Absolute first I've heard of this.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 07:54 AM (jEhvI)

39
G'morning, all!

Our Scout troop is marching in a Christmas Parade this morning under cloudy skies and temperatures in the mid-40s. Should be fun, as the yoots hand out candy to folks in the crowd as we go. Cooking a turkey with trimmings later as we host friends here tonight for dinner. Tomorrow we'll begin decorating the house for the season.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 06, 2014 07:55 AM (/dvmK)

40 "Sounds like Remington alright.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill"

My Remington R1 is solid and awesome. Function has been excellent so far (500 rnds). I love it. Of course it's a 1911, a proven design. They seem to have made a real effort at QC in the production of this line.

My 750 was returned when the gas block FELL OFF the thing at the range. Two spot welds, and they failed. Remington returned my purchase price.

I won't be looking at Remington for new purchases, but I can't deny the R1 is an awesome gun. I love it.

Posted by: Mrs. Ida Lowry at December 06, 2014 07:56 AM (zMehU)

41

DAY 760

703 to go (776 to Inauguration Day 2017)

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 06, 2014 07:57 AM (CMkNk)

42 Good morning morons! I'm here in beautiful San Antonio to pick up my chocolate lab puppy. Then I get to take him on a 3 hour plane ride back to Baltimore. Wish me luck.

Posted by: Timon at December 06, 2014 07:57 AM (18nnK)

43 Conservative Treehouse has some video showing Mike Brown's stepdad saying that he would start a riot before he got up on stage and urged the crowd to "burn this bitch down".

Sounds like premeditated incitement to riot to me.

http://tinyurl.com/mavuufs

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 06, 2014 07:58 AM (tyrpf)

44 Good luck on your pistol selection

Posted by: Sven10077 at December 06, 2014 07:58 AM (1mrHO)

45 Up anyway, since trying to get to sleep again at @ 6:00 AM would result in sleeping in until eleven or so and wasting much of the day. So here I am with coffee and munchies seeing what the world is like, as opposed to finishing In The Stormy Red Sky by David Drake.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 06, 2014 07:59 AM (/mTq0)

46 BTW it has rained more here in the past 24 hours than most of the previous month.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 06, 2014 08:00 AM (/mTq0)

47 Okay, found someone on the webz, so you know it's accurate, that said about a foot of drop at 100 yds for the .40 cal. Depending on bullet weight of course.
12.3" on the Hydra Shok load he mentioned.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 08:02 AM (KeRzR)

48 Dog limps into the saloon. Says, "I'm lookin' for Sheriff Cat. He shot my paw!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 06, 2014 08:02 AM (NeFrd)

49 Somers was to be killed today,but the South African hostage was to be released tomorrow. It sounds like the SA group had already coughed up a $3 million ransom. Now they're both dead.

Posted by: @votermom at December 06, 2014 08:02 AM (u6lbc)

50 Might be better to read the book exdem13 and let the world slither on by.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2014 08:03 AM (X8n03)

51 48 Dog limps into the saloon. Says, "I'm lookin' for Sheriff Cat. He shot my paw!"
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 06, 2014 08:02 AM (NeFrd)

I shot the pussy,
but I did not shoot no deputy (dawg). . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 06, 2014 08:03 AM (CMkNk)

52 50
Might be better to read the book exdem13 and let the world slither on by.
---------------
Gotta go Xmas shopping today, Net plus stores in 3 counties.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 06, 2014 08:05 AM (/mTq0)

53 Hey, St. Nick didn't forget about me. A bag of candy and fruit stuck in my shoe this morning.

A tradition brought in by the Mrs. I'd never heard of such a thing. Those Catholics sure like their holidays.

Posted by: mindful webworker at December 06, 2014 08:06 AM (tHAoL)

54 "My Remington R1 is solid and awesome."

I'm glad you got a good one. I do have one good one myself in the 7615. Most of the horror stories I hear involve long guns and in particular the 700. Neighbor back home had a 700 completely lock up while he was sighting it in. Couldn't get the bolt open with a mallet while mounted in a vise.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:06 AM (jEhvI)

55 Endem,
It's rained here everyday this week and been so dreary.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at December 06, 2014 08:07 AM (A7LEa)

56 "12.3" on the Hydra Shok load he mentioned".

So a head shot became a center mass shot.
Still, steady hand.

Posted by: MarkY at December 06, 2014 08:08 AM (SPhXE)

57 http://deadline.com/2014/12/ obama-movie-first-date-cast-1201309705/

"Obama Romance Movie In Works - Who Will Play YoungBarack?"

I soooo can't wait to see this one.

Not.

These hollywood idiots make me want to yak.

Posted by: Mrs. Ida Lowry at December 06, 2014 08:08 AM (zMehU)

58 A mopey, drunk, crying figure resplendent in bright orange skin stands on his desk and sings to the surrounding members of the House.

I won't legislate.

(I won't legislate.)

Or use the Power of the Purse

(Use the Power of the Purse)

My constituents

(My constituents)

Are kind of like a curse

(Are kind of like a curse)

If as the Speaker I can't be free

To kill jobs and wages with Amnesty

I say Fuck the Base

i say fuck the Base

Fuck the Baaa-aase

In the ass

(In the squeaker)

Not the cooter

(But the pooper)

Posted by: Boehner Pan - The Musical at December 06, 2014 08:08 AM (KBvAm)

59 "about a foot of drop at 100 yds for the .40 cal."

I would expect that or so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:09 AM (jEhvI)

60 exdem13 be safe. Between the usual Holiday mob there is the SJW mob.

Use all methods of escape if confronted with the SJW mob. Even if it means lubricating your undercarriage with their blood. Your life is most important to you and do you really want to be like a St. Louis Bosnian?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2014 08:09 AM (X8n03)

61 Any sign of Vic?

Coffee ready...

Posted by: USA at December 06, 2014 08:10 AM (m8hf7)

62 The Barrel sure had a lot of moron traffic in the last 24 hours, so I thought I'd call in a specialist to make sure it is safe for occupancy. Here's what he had to say:

"I lost my best droplight and a little bit of my soul just trying to look into that..thing."

"The scientists say that nothing, not even light, can escape a black hole. Black holes, you have competition."

"I think CERN might be interested. Also the CDC, the EPA, and FEMA."

"I'm a cooper, Jim, not a miracle worker."

"This thing has more stretch marks than Octomom."

"You'll be hearing from my lawyer."

Sigh, that went well.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 06, 2014 08:10 AM (tyrpf)

63 Well yeah be careful with the Barrel today.

After Cicero pasted the whole thread into the comment box followed by Sharkman in the ONT doing a classic paste without using Notepad; either its full or frisky for more.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2014 08:13 AM (X8n03)

64 58
A mopey, drunk, crying figure resplendent in bright orange skin
stands on his desk and sings to the surrounding members of the House.

=============

Kick it, man, with the mad beats.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 06, 2014 08:13 AM (/mTq0)

65 Geez, another one. This time some former coach talking about the cfb playoff.
They start talking about Baylor and don't even consider that they have a game today.
I don't know if Britz will be able to play. If not, that will hurt against a team like Baylor.
Still, it's not like it's Iowa St @ TCU.
Baylor is playing a team who, if they win, will share the Big 12 title. And have a legitimate case to be in the playoff,,, given a few key losses today of course.
cough** Bama **cough** FSU **cough** OSU

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 08:14 AM (KeRzR)

66 "I'm glad you got a good one. I do have one good one
myself in the 7615. Most of the horror stories I hear involve long guns
and in particular the 700. Neighbor back home had a 700 completely lock
up while he was sighting it in. Couldn't get the bolt open with a mallet
while mounted in a vise.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill"

Indeed, like I said the 750 I had was terrible.

The R51 looked great on paper and I was hoping to look at that as my next purchase but they really screwed that one up also.

Sorry, as much as I love the R1, Remington is off my list period.

Speaking of 1911s, anyone have the American Trigger (ATC) on their 223 or 308 sporting rifles? I have one, and it's a great trigger, very much like the SA 1911 trigger.

Posted by: Mrs. Ida Lowry at December 06, 2014 08:15 AM (zMehU)

67 Moving on from the TCP.
Hmm.

Glock 42?
Walther PPS?
S&W Shield?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at December 06, 2014 08:17 AM (9tzvc)

68
I think it's time for a grassroots Tea Party mass rally on DC - not to protest the Dems, but to protest our own alleged party. Ironically, the same ones we gave a landslide victory to. Truth of it is, unlike 2010, I knew going in to the voting booth that in return for our votes, we would get gang ass-raped and a Niagara Falls-sized bukakke.

Someone up there needs a smack in the teeth. Hard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 06, 2014 08:18 AM (CMkNk)

69 Steady indeed MarkY.
I wouldn't even attempt that shot... with that pistol.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 08:22 AM (KeRzR)

70 "Someone up there needs a smack in the teeth. Hard.
"

The House and Senate need to get rid of Boener and McConnell.

When will they?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:22 AM (jEhvI)

71
Hello from Way Down Here and it's raining..

Read this in the Daily Mail - this bloke has escaped his Islamic terrorist captors - he was kidnapped by them 2 years ago!

This is the feel good story of the day for me.. sadly the other photographer he was with was too crook to escape
http://goo.gl/40hPQG

The Religion of Peace in action again and again and again, showing the world just how peaceful they are...

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 08:25 AM (U+r+e)

72 60
exdem13 be safe. Between the usual Holiday mob there is the SJW mob.
======================

The new Hobbitmobile-to-be is an '02 Corolla with American craftsmanship, including airbags that weren't made in Viet Nam, the PRC, or wherever else Takata shipped the jobs. I can leave SJWs in the dust....assuming that their lazy goblin butts are even out in this weather.

More to the point, I will be in Warren County, Butler County, and (northern) Hamilton County today along the Great Miami, where the citizens mostly vote GOP and the police know the proper way to administer a chokehold, but choose not to because a SW .357 or 9mm para slug results in less paperwork.

The main trouble as of this past week are the trailer park hobos. Not at all far from CPT Charles me a single-wide hobo Awalked into the domicile of another single-wide hobo B and set B's pants on fire while B was wearing them. Hobo A is currently in the county lockup wondering why nobody got the joke.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 06, 2014 08:25 AM (/mTq0)

73 "When will they?"

Not gonna hold my breath.
Not gonna do it.
Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 08:25 AM (KeRzR)

74 g'evenin', aussie

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 06, 2014 08:25 AM (KCxzN)

75 Most of the horror stories I hear involve long guns
and in particular the 700.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:06 AM (jEhvI)

If you are a gunnie you are (or should be) familiar with Walls of the City; he bought a brand-new Remington 700 and had a hell of a time getting it right. If it hasn't already been sold I know where you can get a pretty good deal on a Remington 700 SPS Varmit in .243 Winchester...

(start from the bottom) http://www.wallsofthecity.net/tag/remington-700-sps-varmint

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 08:27 AM (6fyGz)

76 Good luck, Krak! A cc piece is intensely personal. I rotate a g27 and a P239.

Posted by: EC at December 06, 2014 08:27 AM (doBIb)

77 For CCW, I picked up a Springfield XDS in 9mm.

I am very, very pleased with it.

Posted by: name at December 06, 2014 08:28 AM (d0Bxo)

78 Hobo A is currently in the county lockup wondering why nobody got the joke.

Maybe because roasted chestnuts is supposed to be a song?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2014 08:28 AM (X8n03)

79 So Rolling Stone's "apologizes" for its BS story.

But same BS story is still up on its website.

Huh?

Posted by: USA at December 06, 2014 08:30 AM (m8hf7)

80 "Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture."

Yeah, yeah, yeah..........not the hill to die on. I got it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:31 AM (jEhvI)

81 I never had a bit of trouble with my 700 in 30-06. Never. It was a laser beam as well.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 06, 2014 08:32 AM (rwI+c)

82 "But same BS story is still up on its website."

It's not a rape story but rape stories are still important. Or something.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:32 AM (jEhvI)

83 On the other hand I couldn't be happier with my Marlin 795 even though I heard all kinds of horror stories about Marlin after they got acquired by Remington (including one with a barrel about 30 degrees off, or at least that's where the front sight was). I have a Mossberg 100 ATR in 30-06 that may not be a tack driver (that might just be me) but it shoots minute of Bambi at 100 yards.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 08:32 AM (6fyGz)

84 and Good Morning.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 06, 2014 08:32 AM (rwI+c)

85 Hello, aussie....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:33 AM (jEhvI)

86 Wow, folks, nobody mentioned the bonus bit:

"...the police sergeant who fired a crazed gunman square in the chest from 312 feet away while holding the reins of two horses in one hand."

And whistling "Yellow Rose."

Posted by: mindful webworker at December 06, 2014 08:33 AM (tHAoL)

87 Just voted. Bye bye Cathy Bates' Cajun sister.

Posted by: Secundus at December 06, 2014 08:34 AM (ayzM7)

88 "...minute of Bambi..."
Okay, consider that one in the public domain.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 08:34 AM (KeRzR)

89 "I heard all kinds of horror stories about Marlin"

I've really never heard much bad about Marlin.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:34 AM (jEhvI)

90 ABC also has an article up:
Timeline: How US Missed the Chance to Rescue Luke Somers
"Officials denied rumors of dithering over the operation..."
http://tinyurl.com/qxvm63e

Posted by: duke at December 06, 2014 08:35 AM (enhDu)

91 Daughter and Son In Law just picked up a matched pair of S/W SD pistols, one in .40 and one in 9mm.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 08:35 AM (6fyGz)

92
A word concerning the removal of 5" of heavy, wet snow that was NOT on the delivery schedule.

I have no printable word.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2014 08:35 AM (jeCnD)

93 86 Wow, folks, nobody mentioned the bonus bit:

"...the police sergeant who fired a crazed gunman square in the chest from 312 feet away while holding the reins of two horses in one hand."

And whistling "Yellow Rose."
Posted by: mindful webworker at December 06, 2014 08:33 AM (tHAoL)

I thought he was whistling the Hillabilly's new theme song!

Hillabilly 2016!!!

Posted by: USA at December 06, 2014 08:35 AM (m8hf7)

94 "I heard all kinds of horror stories about Marlin"

I've really never heard much bad about Marlin.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:34 AM (jEhvI)

after they got acquired by Remington

don't forget that part. Of course I heard the horror stories from the Remington h8rz so there is that.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 08:36 AM (6fyGz)

95 "I never had a bit of trouble with my 700 in 30-06."

I'm again glad you got a good one. There have been quite a few bad ones.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:37 AM (jEhvI)

96 I'm in awe about that Austin policeman's aim. I'm pretty good with a handgun (or used to be), but I freely admit the one hundred-yard shot I succeeded at was luck (Ruger Bearcat).

Posted by: Empire1 at December 06, 2014 08:37 AM (cZpnO)

97
74 AltonJackson

Hi there on this rainy night in Sydney *waves*

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 08:37 AM (U+r+e)

98 I'm looking forward to taking my novel Pilot Point to another gun show next Saturday.

Doesn't every author take their work on a Gun Show Tour?

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at December 06, 2014 08:38 AM (vFmT2)

99 "False but accurate" ... I think that's the Dan Rather phrase I was trying to think of yesterday.

Posted by: mindful webworker at December 06, 2014 08:39 AM (tHAoL)

100 Saw a conductor and 3 passengers were stabbed on an Amtrak train going through Michigan. So if anyone was wondering how they could make that experience worse, here's your answer.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 06, 2014 08:40 AM (OMULS)

101 Is team stupid going to ask the SCOAMF
to actually produce the alleged EO/EA's
he signed or are they in on the whole deceit?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 06, 2014 08:41 AM (RdW4K)

102 Dan Blather, who after the Korean War was over tried to join the Marines and got booted, on the faux TANG memos - "Fake but accurate."

WannabeAnglican, not often. Which reminds me should get back to writing. Kinda stalled at 62k words, need to re-engage.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 06, 2014 08:41 AM (X8n03)

103
85 Ricardo Kill

Hi there, and I'm just deciding if it's bed time - or not

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 08:42 AM (U+r+e)

104 : Ian S. at December 06, 2014 08:40 AM (OMULS)

Which exprience?

Getting stabbed or riding Amtrak?

Posted by: Secundus at December 06, 2014 08:42 AM (ayzM7)

105
optics...

OH, HELL NO --- PUT THE CHAIRS EXTRA-CLOSE TOGETHER: HHS asks GOP: Keep us away from Gruber.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is asking lawmakers not to seat ObamaCare consultant Jonathan Gruber next to Medicare's top official when the two testify on Capitol Hill next week.

HHS Assistant Secretary for Legislation Jim Esquea wrote to the House Oversight Committee with the request, stating that government witnesses are "almost always afforded an opportunity" to sit alone or with other federal officials.

cowards

instapundit

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 06, 2014 08:44 AM (IXrOn)

106 "Hi there, and I'm just deciding if it's bed time - or not"

Nah, what, it's like Saturday night there, right? Stay up and party.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:45 AM (jEhvI)

107 I'm again glad you got a good one. There have been quite a few bad ones.

Was that a recent deal? Mine was a '83 BDL if I remember correctly.

I miss that gun, even though I rarely shot it.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 06, 2014 08:45 AM (rwI+c)

108
We're seriously thinking about postponing our trip to the US next year..

Until after that deadsh*t President is gone - it's dreadful that this person and his crew are so keen to start a bloody race war - how to make people like us think twice about going to your lovely country

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 08:45 AM (U+r+e)

109 "...conductor and 3 passengers were stabbed on an Amtrak train..."

I can't help but think there's an inherent flaw in the whole public mass transportation idea. Said flaw being, of course, the "public mass" part.

Posted by: mindful webworker - private drive at December 06, 2014 08:46 AM (kca06)

110
"...minute of Bambi..."

Okay, consider that one in the public domain.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 08:34 AM (KeRzR)

When I sighted it in I was putting all of the shots in the 9 ring at 100 yards so I was happy with it. Of course then Range Partner, who regularly shoots at 300 yards, put a full mag (5 rds) in the 10 and pronounced it "not bad" so like I said, it might just be me.

I'm thinking about putting a Boyds wooden stock on it just because I love the looks of walnut and blue steel, but the synthetic stock definitely is lighter.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 08:46 AM (6fyGz)

111 "Was that a recent deal? Mine was a '83 BDL if I remember correctly."

00's.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:49 AM (jEhvI)

112 The policeman story reminds me of something. Decades ago, I was at the range with a friend who was a policeman, rest his soul, and at one point he pulled his backup gun, a .38 detective snubby, and took one shot at a milk jug at 100 yards. Boom! The thing just jumps up to the amazement of all. He just put the gun back in his pocket and didn't say a word.

Later I was talking to him and he laughed and said he had no idea where the bullet was going to go but didn't want everyone else to know that.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 06, 2014 08:50 AM (rwI+c)

113 "Fake but accurate" - thanks, Anna Puma.

Cognitive dissonance as a lifestyle.

I see that motto emblazoned on the Democrat party coat of arms.

Posted by: mindful webworker - cronkited as a kid at December 06, 2014 08:50 AM (kca06)

114
Far as I'm concerned the best carry gun is the one that fits your hand.

Never mind who makes it, how it feels to shoot is the prime criteria.

Unless that is right you are looking at a lot of disappointment.

As mentioned several times here, my carry piece is the 1911A1--it fits my hand like no other pistol or revolver ever has. Even to the milspec grips.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 06, 2014 08:50 AM (jeCnD)

115 "We're seriously thinking about postponing our trip to the US next year.."

Where you looking to go?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:51 AM (jEhvI)

116 I prefer the walnut too GGE.
Of course, they take some extra work to turn em into tack drivers but, the pretty factor...
Gotta recharge the fone.
Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 06, 2014 08:51 AM (KeRzR)

117
106 Ricardo Kill

Hey we had the party during the day - a big birthday party for three of the Old Aussie Bloke's rellies in Kiama - lovely little seaside town

Kiama...

http://goo.gl/NoL9wg

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 08:51 AM (U+r+e)

118 "a .38 detective snubby"

There's a lot to be said for a little .38.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 08:53 AM (jEhvI)

119
115 Ricardo Kill

We wanted to follow the blues music history trail - from south up to Chicago
With a stop in NYC so I can finish my shopping trip which was rudely interrupted last time we were there because we had to fly home..my heart was broken !

And my suitcase still had room in it...

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 08:55 AM (U+r+e)

120 Aussie, just donct go near our "troubled" states, and stick to the civilized ones.

Oklahoma - race riot free since 1929.

Posted by: mindful webworker travel services at December 06, 2014 08:55 AM (kca06)

121 There's a lot to be said for a little .38.

Ja. I gave Boy928, a musician, a Taurus 605 for his pocket when he plays bad venues. 5 rounds of .357HP can give someone a bad day.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 06, 2014 08:55 AM (rwI+c)

122 Yes, the caliber is where I always start (OK, not always - I bought a Garand a'cuz I wanted a Garand - which just happens to shoot M2 Ball WHICH IS AWESOME... but I digress)

So, what caliber are you looking at for your CCW?

So far I'm all .45ACP

I accept the tradeoffs, but I rest well knowing that I'm throwing a lot of weight.

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 06, 2014 08:56 AM (zurJC)

123
120 mindful webworker

Thanks and you're hired as our trip organiser then!

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 08:57 AM (U+r+e)

124 "5 rounds of .357HP can give someone a bad day."

I hate thinking along those lines. I really hate thinking about actually USING a CCW, but with that said:

That was pretty funny...

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 06, 2014 08:57 AM (zurJC)

125 122 Posted by: RobM1981 at December 06, 2014 08:56 AM (zurJC)

One of the nice things about the .45 ACP is as a subsonic round overpenetration is seldom a problem with anything but FMJ...

also takes nicely to a silencer.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 06, 2014 08:58 AM (/4AZU)

126 Krak, if the budget is substantial, I fully recommend any of the commander size 1911 Kimbers. The wife carries a raptor and I carry an ultra carry II.

Had to change out the grips for the hogue grip that has rubber going around the back of the grip. It's a lot more comfortable to shoot that way, and easier to hold.

Wife also sometimes carries a 9mm XD with 3" barrel and likes it a lot also.

Had bad luck and really don't recommend james bond's gun. actually walther ppk-s ... nothing but trouble as it won't feed more than two or three bullets in a row. Great size and light, but a little light in stopping power as 380.

I don't carry out in the country, but feel naked without it in the city (Houston).

Posted by: Mephitis at December 06, 2014 09:00 AM (GLwVs)

127 Substitute Country-Western for Blues music history trail to start with. Or Bluegrass. Bluegrass is cool.

Posted by: mindful webworker travel services at December 06, 2014 09:01 AM (kca06)

128 "Ja. I gave Boy928, a musician, a Taurus 605 for his pocket"

Two goods on you. Taurus. And revolver.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 09:03 AM (jEhvI)

129 Just voted for the lie of the year at Politifact. Curiously, only 2 of Obama's whoppers are in the running.

Posted by: LASue at December 06, 2014 09:04 AM (8Ljms)

130 Tread went limp.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 09:08 AM (jEhvI)

131
Bedtime it is

Later this morning we're off to see the V8 Supercars at Homebush (Olympic Park street circuit) - love those cars!
However , the Old Aussie Bloke who is not interested in car racing, drags himself along because - beautiful women!

He is partial to the tall beautiful model types (female) who are trackside, or draped across all the hotted up cars, vintage cars etc in the exhibition area

Keeps him happy....

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 09:09 AM (U+r+e)

132
Forgot to say goodnight!

Have a wonderful yesterday everyone!

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 09:09 AM (U+r+e)

133 Kiama Blowhole, Aussie?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2014 09:10 AM (t//F+)

134 Good luck on your new pistol purchase.

Re: the Remington 700 has so many of the things made since the 1960's that it is entirely possible to get a lemon. Even worse, many have been amateur gunsmithed, not cleaned regularly, or otherwise buggered up. As the partnership (used to be called Cerebus) that owns the Freedom Group including Remington is desperate to sell it off--they made the recall.

The past controversy is over the Walker trigger with a good description of the issues in http://tinyurl.com/phwsq5y
Remington went its own way and departed from the old Mauser type triggers that were common for bolt actions.

Read the story about the new Pro Mark triggers being recalled--it had a NC lawsuit where "Thar was walking by the home of the rifle's owner when he was cleaning it, and the gun went off. " THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO CLEAN A GUN WITH A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER. Saw this claim by the individual who shot it repeatedly--he essentially and the family of the deceased is blaming Remington for the individual's idiocy.

I have spent time rebuilding old military bolt actions for a hobby for a while--I have seen attempts on these old triggers to alter the trigger and/or sear surfaces can result in accidental discharge. Even Mauser type triggers can fire unexpectedly if the trigger and sear surfaces are improperly stoned (so called hair trigger) from any sort of impact. Even safeties that cam the firing pin back can fail if one of the cocking piece lugs snap (this is hardened steel which can make it brittle over time).

Floating firing pin designs such as the AR 15 and most shotguns can discharge from momentum such as a fall or a car crash even. Thus, every gun is to be considered loaded, when carrying out administrative purposes such as cleaning, ensure that the gun is pointed at a backstop sufficient to stop a bullet, ALWAYS open the chamber and check for a round--I insert a pinkie to feel and make it a habit to even check revolver cylinders when opened by touch as well as sight.

Never mechanically monkey with a trigger system unless you are damn sure of what you are doing and that you test your work afterwards trying to make the system fail. A two stage military trigger is there for a purpose--trying to make it a one stage is not a good idea. If you must, buy an aftermarket one-stage trigger which are generally available from the likes of Jewell, Timney, etc. Generally, leave them alone too.

Your trigger should not push off, go off when you let it drop on its butt, hit it with an open palm on the side, etc. Lever guns should not have the hammer push off in full or half cock. Know your rifles and even "gasp" take it apart for cleaning from time to time. Gunk and other stuff can make a safe gun unsafe.

End Rant

Posted by: wg at December 06, 2014 09:10 AM (egDro)

135
And forgot to post the V8 Supercars link...

http://goo.gl/RsDdH

Posted by: aussie at December 06, 2014 09:10 AM (U+r+e)

136 SEC Championship at 3PM. If all the favorites win today, Bama will play FSU in the first round of the playoff.

Roll Tide, Roll!

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 06, 2014 09:10 AM (rwI+c)

137 Night, Aussie.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 06, 2014 09:12 AM (jEhvI)

138 Correction--the NC guy guilty of the Negligent Discharge has repeatedly made the claim that he was cleaning the gun and it went off. Not repeatedly shooting as my sentence could have been read. Regard it as a negligent sentence.

Family originally thought that their daughter had been shot on purpose but decided to forgive the shooter and sue Remington for 150 million dollars.

Posted by: wg at December 06, 2014 09:14 AM (egDro)

139 Nude Politician Thread

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 06, 2014 09:15 AM (rwI+c)

140 That's quite a fence TFG is building at what used to be the Peoples House. You cant tour any more, and pretty soon you wont be allowed to even see it from a distance.

Posted by: MTF at December 06, 2014 09:16 AM (6um35)

141 Timon,
Who is the breeder? I had a Chocolate Lab about 20 years ago when I was in SA.

Posted by: lindafell at December 06, 2014 09:19 AM (LbPGR)

142 "A two stage military trigger is there for a
purpose--trying to make it a one stage is not a good idea. If you must,
buy an aftermarket one-stage trigger which are generally available from
the likes of Jewell, Timney, etc. Generally, leave them alone too.

...

End Rant

Posted by: wg"

No rant at all - this is exactly the trigger I was asking about above. Thus my 308 sporting rifle has a trigger that breaks much like the 1911 sa trigger, and I just feel this is a better trigger for accuracy, obviously just my opinion of course.
And this isn't a battle rifle, or any sort of assault rifle; I don't plan on assaulting anything with it, of course. Nor would I want to, the thing weighs a ton!
But I would love to see others opinions on this choice...

Posted by: Mrs. Ida Lowry at December 06, 2014 09:21 AM (zMehU)

143 In most happy news, Boy928 will graduate from college next Saturday after an effin 3 year hiatus in which he took no classes at all, even though he was only a couple of cred hours short of getting his Bachelors degree in Chemistry. Mrs928 and I applied maximum pressure for this. Now all my children will be college graduates, yay us!

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 06, 2014 09:22 AM (rwI+c)

144 @68

Set the date for April 1st?

Posted by: Tj at December 06, 2014 09:28 AM (FBjP7)

145 Good morning. I don't feel like talking politics, so I'll hang out here as long as this thread is viable.

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2014 09:36 AM (sdi6R)

146 Or "prop up the corpse", as it were.

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2014 09:37 AM (sdi6R)

147 Of course everyone runs for the nood.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 09:42 AM (6fyGz)

148 It's the Moron way. I'm not even going to think about who to support for President until next summer.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 06, 2014 09:42 AM (rwI+c)

149 I'm not going to be here very long though, I have two Christmas parties today so I have to get ready to go pretty soon.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 09:43 AM (6fyGz)

150 Correction--the NC guy guilty of the Negligent
Discharge has repeatedly made the claim that he was cleaning the gun and
it went off. Not repeatedly shooting as my sentence could have been
read. Regard it as a negligent sentence.

Family originally thought that their daughter had been shot on
purpose but decided to forgive the shooter and sue Remington for 150
million dollars.

Posted by: wg at December 06, 2014 09:14 AM (egDro)

Bad as suing Ford for the drunk drivers. If you pull the trigger on a loaded chamber, unless the firearm is defective or the safety is on the gun WILL go off. Every time. Hence the need for the Four Rules.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 09:45 AM (6fyGz)

151 Conservative Treehouse has some video showing Mike Brown's stepdad saying that he would start a riot before he got up on stage and urged the crowd to "burn this bitch down".

It also says they had already been informed of the decision?

If true, then it was all theater.

Posted by: --- at December 06, 2014 09:49 AM (MMC8r)

152 If true, then it was all theater.

Posted by: --- at December 06, 2014 09:49 AM (MMC8r)

Of course it was.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 09:50 AM (6fyGz)

153 OK, I'm off to the party. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 06, 2014 09:51 AM (6fyGz)

154 way early party eh ?

Posted by: chamuco fries at December 06, 2014 10:09 AM (qQk+U)

155 If true, then it was all theater.

It's not the only thing. So was NASA's Orion test flight yesterday:

https://tinyurl.com/kh3n2ne

Yeah, I know, the Guardian is a left-wing Brit rag. But that article was written by a Popular Mechanics writer, who is American as far as I know, and is pretty much dead bang on.

The first manned Orion flight is currently scheduled for 2022, assuming that the SLS rocket gets built. That's eight years from the first test flight to the first manned flight. In the 1960s we went from a suborbital Mercury flight to a moon landing in eight years.

Orion and SLS are government jobs programs. Actually doing anything in space is a secondary concern.

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2014 10:18 AM (sdi6R)

156 Old school, but the Sig P232 .380 makes a nice CCW. Simple, no safety, slim. In the movie Out of Sight, which I believe was Jennifer Lopez's breakout movie, she carries one, and is a Federal marshall. It is a gift to her from her dad, a Miami detective, retired.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 06, 2014 10:20 AM (BV+J6)

157 Saw a conductor and 3 passengers were stabbed on an Amtrak train going through Michigan. So if anyone was wondering how they could make that experience worse, here's your answer.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 06, 2014 08:40 AM (OMULS)

And of course, as of this morning, he hasn't been identified. 44 years old from Saginaw. Passengers reported he had been acting "strangely", so they reported it to the conductor. The train employees radioed Chicago(where they had originated from) and Chicago recommended they stop at the next crossing and police were alerted. So when they pulled into Niles, MI, Mr. Passenger argued with the conductor, pulled out a knife, stabbed him , then randomly began stabbing passengers. I"ve read two different reports, one was the passengers subdued him and one was the police put him on the floor.

By the way, Amtrak has been granted permission to increase train speed on this route to max.100mph. Of course, they need to do some upgrades first, but apparently the train hits those speeds periodically now.

Joy.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 06, 2014 10:24 AM (oOlEN)

158 See also this post yesterday at Transterrestrial Musings:

http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=57981

I first linked the Guardian article there yesterday, and Rand later updated his post with a quote from it.

My favorite comment was from wodun, who I have seen commenting here occasionally:

The disconnect is that while you were unexcited for this launch due to your knowledge of what is really going on, the average uninformed person was really excited by it because of their ignorance of what is really going on. NASA is grubering people on this and it may pay off in the short term but if/when the program fails, there will be some people who remember NASA's claims and it will damage support for the agency.

"NASA is grubering people on this". That was brilliant.

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2014 10:36 AM (sdi6R)

159 Anybody had any experience with the Canik TP9SA?

Posted by: Mongerel at December 06, 2014 10:50 AM (YqWfw)

160 I assume the Horde is familiar with the Civilian Marksmanship Program? Website is http://thecmp,org

The held a lottery for seats in 12 classes in 2015 where you get to build a Special grade M1 Garand under the instruction of their gunsmiths. I won a seat in a January class - now I know how Charley Bucket felt. WOOT!

Class is held in Anniston AL (~65 miles north of BHM, where I live). While I'm there, I'll probably check their store.

Posted by: butch at December 06, 2014 11:16 AM (HLx1C)

161 Congratulations, butch!

I also get e-mails from CMP. No idea why.

*whistles innocently*

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2014 11:20 AM (sdi6R)

162 M&P Shield for CCW.

Posted by: Sam at December 06, 2014 11:22 AM (sO6CM)

163 Butch .... Major congrats on the class! Serious envy here. Got my Garand almost 30 years ago through the CMP. The thing is more accurate than I will ever be. Let us know when you take the class and what the store is like. Charlie Bucket indeed.

Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2014 11:41 AM (FvdPb)

164 Ballistic Nutcracker
http://preview.tinyurl.com/kz4ndox

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 06, 2014 12:55 PM (A1Dcl)

165 17 Here's some gun related news -- Daily Mail has some info on how the Austin shooter was taken down.

==
Daily Mail covers our news better than our own media. I've been trying all week to find out what gun that cop used.

Posted by: stace at December 06, 2014 01:37 PM (ImzkZ)

166 Escort girls http://regmodels.ru

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