Morning Thread (12-3-2014)

Hump day.

Or as they call it on the left, "shut up, racist!"

Posted by: Andy at 06:22 AM




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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, December 02, 2014. On this day in 1984 a cloud of poison gas leaked from the Union Carbide plant in Bhopal, India, killing an estimated 4,000 people (estimates vary). The company made a huge financial settlement and a number of the plant officials went to jail.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:23 AM (u9gzs)

2 Foist?

Posted by: Waht? at December 03, 2014 06:23 AM (h0T3E)

3 The Taliban is ramping up attacks in front of the US draw down in Afghanistan later this year. The government of the Western world MUST learn that you can not play patty cake with these vermin. The only way to stop them is to permanently eradicate ALL of them.


http://is.gd/AOenV2

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:23 AM (u9gzs)

4 The national debt has passed the $18T mark under Obama. It was $10T when he took office and since we cut the military budget by 50% it sure as hell ain't going to them.


http://is.gd/ueYLam

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:24 AM (u9gzs)

5

DAY 757

706 to go (779 to Inauguration Day 2017)


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:24 AM (CMkNk)

6 Common Core is doing more than imposing federal control of math and English in the US. It is collecting psychological and personal data on children to go into a permanent government database. This abortion of a program must be terminated and ALL these records eliminated. The federal government has no role in education under the Constitution. Be sure to read this article because it will surely piss you off. But make sure you have taken your heart meds before reading it.


http://is.gd/TcD81p

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:24 AM (u9gzs)

7 Yay! Fresh thread smell!

Posted by: captslaq at December 03, 2014 06:24 AM (ZtDd3)

8 Bown's stepfather is being "investigated". BFD. It will be a story when he is prosecuted. But this should also piss you off this morning in this BS article from AP.


Brown, 18, who was black and unarmed, was killed Aug. 9 by Darren Wilson, who is white. Wilson, who resigned from the Ferguson department last weekend, had told the grand jury his life was being threatened, but some witnesses said Brown was trying to surrender.


IOW AP refuses to change the BS meme that a black unarmed angel was killed by a white policeman and some people said he was trying to surrender. While that is technically accurate (partially) it is totally misleading to the point of being a lie. First off he was a thug high on drugs attacking the police officer. Second off that "trying to surrender" crap has already been proven a perjorous lie by both forensic evidence and multiple eyewitness accounts.


All of the rioting and mayhem, including murder, I lay directly at the feet of the news media in this country. People in the news media who write crap like this should be prosecuted for incitement to riot.


http://is.gd/Qh4qrg

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:24 AM (u9gzs)

9 Boner has already surrendered on Obama's illegal amnesty and sold us out. Fund now, fight later is his motto. The RNCe just does not give a shit about the base or the 70% of the public who oppose amnesty.


http://is.gd/IHD9UC

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:25 AM (u9gzs)

10 And Jeff Sessions is not happy about the sellout. He says they are breaking 2014 campaign promises. (no shit)


http://is.gd/15EShA

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:25 AM (u9gzs)

11 Some more Obama in your face crap. The Treasury IG says yes there are thousands of docs showing the IRS [illegally] shared taxpayer information with the WH, but those docs can not be revealed because of privacy concerns. I would be satisfied if they simply prosecuted Louis Lerner and whoever at the WH was getting these docs. Or in lieu of that, fire everybody at the IRS who is in a supervisory position and permanently blackball them from government employment forever.


http://is.gd/DMe2Tc

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:25 AM (u9gzs)

12 Say it isn't so, Truman Capote's "In Cold Blood" was a pack of lies? Folks you do not get accurate history from movies or novels.


http://is.gd/vvqqnb

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:25 AM (u9gzs)

13 Ray Rice's wife shovels out some more dirt on the Ravens and their management. But not to worry, the Senate is using their lame duck session to "investigate" wife abuse in the NFL. I'm sure that is in the Constitution somewhere or they would not be doing this.


http://is.gd/XiJF1M

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:26 AM (u9gzs)

14 RIP Bobby Keys at 70.


http://is.gd/qHJRqW

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:26 AM (u9gzs)

15 Standby for candy bar prices to skyrocket. Hershey is considering removal of high fructose syrup and replacing it with sugar in its candy bars. The reason they went to the syrup sweetener to begin with was government policy on sugar to artificially keep the price high.


http://is.gd/mpTzrg

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:26 AM (u9gzs)

16 Frustration with Obama and a shitty congress are causing the push for an Article V convention to pick up steam. I am all for that despite what some of the nay-sayers here say.


http://is.gd/GalIRn

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:27 AM (u9gzs)

17 The Gaystapo insanity continues with court support for insanity.


A Maine court has awarded the family of a transgender "girl" $75,000 in a settlement of "her" discrimination lawsuit against a school district where administrators made "her" use a staff, not student, bathroom.


He also said the school must give this freak access to the bathroom of "her" choice. This judge should be removed from the bench and kicked out of the State. Perhaps the school should sue this judge in federal court.


http://is.gd/U42gWZ

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:27 AM (u9gzs)

18 Ferguson schools let hundreds of students out to protest riot without telling their parents. I guess they had to have some way of getting some people in the streets besides Oakland commies.


http://is.gd/rWN0Em

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:27 AM (u9gzs)

19 Liberals are so stupid they don't even see how stupid they are and how stupid their statements sound.


Immigration Activist: Obama Was So Committed To Working With Congress On Amnesty That He Had To Lie About His Executive Powers


He has to lie about everything you ignorant scrunt. This so-called immigration activist is Marielena Hincapiť and all I can find about her is she is an "immigrant" from Columbia who went to law school here and pushes legalization of illegals and who appears to be a really hard-core leftist.


http://is.gd/IlPOZg

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:28 AM (u9gzs)

20 Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said in congressional testimony today that the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, will not apply to illegal aliens who are allowed to stay and work in the United States as a result of President Obama's executive action.


IOW they are exempt from the stuff, unless they live in a State that allows it. I don't believe a word of anything this asshole says.


http://is.gd/90y6wd

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:28 AM (u9gzs)

21 Black rioters were screaming "kill the white people" around the hammer attack say eyewitnesses, but according to police it is not a hate crime. For this reason ALL hate crime laws should be repealed.


http://is.gd/DneVKU

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:29 AM (u9gzs)

22 Obama wants $6B to fight Ebola. Note that this article does not mention how he illegally diverted millions in funds from communicable disease programs for his "social justice" projects. I say congress should tell him to divert funding from these black communist programs back to the CDC communicable disease programs. But that will never happen, especially when the press will not even tell the people what he did.


http://is.gd/r2fMlF

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:29 AM (u9gzs)

23 Senate Dems push Obama's latest union labor lawyer through the committee. Remember, Dirty Harry has blocked filibusters in the Senate so this appointment will likely go through.


http://is.gd/uwN5g1

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:29 AM (u9gzs)

24 Senate Republicans appear to be gearing up to fight the EPA's illegal land grab and abuse of regulatory authority. SCOTUS has already shut this down once. There should be some provision in these SCOTUS rulings that say that the government can not come back and do essentially the same thing the ruling prohibited. I would advocate that they rule that should they do this that the department head will be personally responsible for all legal fees in subsequent fights.


http://is.gd/Ti7inS

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:30 AM (u9gzs)

25 "Hands UP!"
No government shut down. We must budget, there must be a budget. How else will we know how much we are spending if we don't budget.

So we will pass a budget so we know what is in it.

Posted by: Entfremdung Politik at December 03, 2014 06:30 AM (ksUZo)

26 Ramirez


http://is.gd/MwvYj0

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:30 AM (u9gzs)

27 IBD excoriates the Obama task force on Ferguson and his lying statements.


http://is.gd/jrgl0D

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:30 AM (u9gzs)

28 Obama's illegal amnesty order also includes secret provisions for "catch and release" of illegals. IOW, we are not just going to amnesty the 30M+ already here. We are going to amnesty every illegal who comes in the country. In essence we no longer have a border on the South side of the country. But I am sure this will apply to white German Christians seeking asylum so they can home school their children. <sarc>


http://is.gd/13cRyf

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:30 AM (u9gzs)

29 Late Breaking: The House is moving to approve a bill that will extend the so-called expired tax cuts ($45B) until the end of the year. This is not necessarily a "good thing" people. I linked to an article a few weeks ago that discussed these tax breaks and it is larded up with crony corruption for a few large corporations. This discussion of "individuals" is simply not true according to the previous article. What needs to happen is to reduce the overall tax rate on ALL corporations and businesses and END specific breaks tied to individual companies.


http://is.gd/n5yqqO

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:31 AM (u9gzs)

30 Not all officer-involved police killings are reported to the FBI for tabulation in national statistics??? I am not sure what to make of this.


http://is.gd/BiiFib

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:31 AM (u9gzs)

31 Vic: "Today is Tuesday, December 02, 2014."

Either Vic has taken up residence in the past or my cell is from the future. If we can't trust Vic on the date...

2nd day in a row; someone reboot the Vic clock.

Posted by: mindful webworker - bugz apper at December 03, 2014 06:31 AM (AY/TT)

32 The Daily Deals


http://is.gd/aM2MxW



That's it for today folks. It's supposed to hit 70H here today which would ordinarily make me hit the porch rocker since there are few of these days left. But alas I have an early Dr appointment tomorrow so can't do that.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:31 AM (u9gzs)

33 Ammo Alert

I left three alerts for 22r at Cabela's, with free shipping at the bottom of the ONT.

Hope they are still in stock, because that is some good pricing for some areas of the US.

And free shipping on single boxes less then $100.00 is almost unheard of.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 03, 2014 06:32 AM (wPA9Q)

34 Morning. Passed 61k words on story. Cats are fed. So time for my breakfast I think.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 06:33 AM (I9oW4)

35 People in the news media who write crap like this should be prosecuted for incitement to riot.

Riots sell newspapers and drive up television viewers, resulting in higher revenues. You some sort of anti-capitalist commie Vic?

/sarcasm

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at December 03, 2014 06:35 AM (zxQ4h)

36 Morning, all. Just back from a six-day vacation to find the country as screwed up as ever.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2014 06:35 AM (zF6Iw)

37
Whether you kill someone for their money or because of their pigmentation, the result is the same - a dead victim.

In a real world, the motive for the killing is meaningless. But, liberalism.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:35 AM (CMkNk)

38 36 Morning, all. Just back from a six-day vacation to find the country as screwed up as ever.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2014 06:35 AM (zF6Iw)


Dude, it's more screwed up but I appreciate your optimism.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:36 AM (CMkNk)

39
People in the news media who write crap like this should be prosecuted for incitement to riot.

Like William Randolph Hearst and the Spanish-American War? Yellow journalism, recognize the symptoms.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 06:37 AM (I9oW4)

40 RIP Bobby Keys at 70.http://is.gd/qHJRqW

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:26 AM

Talented saxophonist. Played with some big names.

Posted by: otho at December 03, 2014 06:38 AM (tBSrv)

41 31
Vic: "Today is Tuesday, December 02, 2014."



Either Vic has taken up residence in the past or my cell is from the future. If we can't trust Vic on the date...



2nd day in a row; someone reboot the Vic clock.

Posted by: mindful webworker - bugz apper at December 03, 2014 06:31 AM (AY/TT)

LOL, I started writing this before midnight and forgot to update the auto-field.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:39 AM (u9gzs)

42
"Hands up. Don't shoot."


- - Mitch McConnell & John Boehner

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:39 AM (CMkNk)

43 Obama's search for justice is a license to steal if you are a certain minority because a certain minority has been oppressed by the majority and the majority owes the certain minority.

Posted by: Entfremdung Politik at December 03, 2014 06:39 AM (ksUZo)

44 18 Ferguson schools let hundreds of students out to protest riot without telling their parents.

Didn't they also coach them on how to protest?

Posted by: FCF at December 03, 2014 06:41 AM (kejii)

45 42


"Hands up. Don't shoot."





- - Mitch McConnell John Boehner

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:39 AM (CMkNk)


I just can't understand how they are going to explain their strategy. Impeachment is off the table and now evidently defunding is also off thew table. What weapons do they have left, more hot air?

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:43 AM (u9gzs)

46 44 18 Ferguson schools let hundreds of students out to protest riot without telling their parents.

Didn't they also coach them on how to protest?
Posted by: FCF at December 03, 2014 06:41 AM (kejii)



Dear Mr. Kotter:

Please excuse Juan as he sprained his ankle mixing Molotov cocktails.

Signed,

Epstein's mother

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:45 AM (CMkNk)

47 45 Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:43 AM (u9gzs)

Vic, they never intended to repeal Obamacare. In other words, THEY LIED.

Even before the election, we knew this would happen. That's the sad part. We didn't even have the imagination to delude ourselves this time around.

Bastards have to go.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:47 AM (CMkNk)

48 "Hands up. Don't shoot."
- - Mitch McConnell John Boehner
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:39 AM


They don't even have the gonadic circumference to be that open about their willingness to surrender.

Ain't "Republicans" wonderful?

But oh, we can work up Outraged Outrage about some overrated Scientist of Color or a jackass who, like everyone else in Choom Boy's orbit, followed orders and lied to support his Mocha Messiah.

I have a feeling legislation to grant President Historic First official full-Duvalier status would pass both houses on Congress...with Boner and Bitch McConnell leading the cheers.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 06:49 AM (yAC3X)

49 45 Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:43 AM (u9gzs)

By the way, Levin spent significant time blasting McConnell. He even played one of Turtleboy's campaign ads pledging to repeal Obamacare.

It's absolutely painful and infuriating to listen to it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:50 AM (CMkNk)

50 Song dedication to all those doing the Ferguson

http://youtu.be/MZjAantupsA

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 06:51 AM (I9oW4)

51 #twoyears
and then we'll know.

Posted by: Entfremdung Politik at December 03, 2014 06:51 AM (ksUZo)

52 The second thing I can't understand their strategy on is how they keep expecting us to keep voting for the treasonous assholes.



That steam for an Art V convention just upped a couple of notches in my boiler.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:52 AM (u9gzs)

53 Hmmmmm
Question: were any dogs shot while making this morning thread?
If not I can plan a raid

Posted by: policiadearmadajose at December 03, 2014 06:54 AM (O55aB)

54 Btw
Morning all

Posted by: policiadearmadajose at December 03, 2014 06:54 AM (O55aB)

55 52 That steam for an Art V convention just upped a couple of notches in my boiler.
Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:52 AM (u9gzs)


I'm glad you're mulling it over. It's our only peaceful way out. The minor problem is crafting the necessary amendments that will do the trick and getting them passed.

The big problem is time. I don't think we have enough left to enact the needed legislation before the entire shithouse goes up in flames.

But we have to try.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:56 AM (CMkNk)

56 May I be allowed a minute to gripe? ;^)

I have to go to a meeting that will take me an hour and a half to get to and which will take all of the other participants 30 minutes or less to get to I will be using a car that doesn't work so well. It's a denominational meeting. I will hope that during our prayer time our supervisor will not pray that we have justice in Ferguson-meeting that the DOJ decides to bring Wilson up on criminal charges. I'm for justice-justice for the shop owners who were burned out by a group of anarchists.

Your prayers for all of us-and I actually like my supervisor and the other clergy-would be appreciated

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2014 06:56 AM (FS3xS)

57 Did you read the article on Drudge about Limousine Liberal, Russell Brand? He's living in an expensive apartment in London, owned by an off-shore landlord (Tax evading), and out protesting rents in London. There's hypocrites world wide.

Posted by: ALH at December 03, 2014 06:57 AM (btTLZ)

58 56 May I be allowed a minute to gripe? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2014 06:56 AM (FS3xS)


No.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 06:57 AM (CMkNk)

59 FenelonSpoke, may the Lord of Hosts grant you the wisdom to know when to start smiting with the jawbone of a Democrat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 06:58 AM (I9oW4)

60
@16 Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:27 AM (u9gzs)

I'm with you on that Vic. Lets get it on.

Good morning all!

Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 06:59 AM (FGZtn)

61 Today's celebrity birthdays:

Illinois (commie hotbed)
Gen. George McClellan (NJ Gov #24, chickenshit)
Charles Pillsbury (tee hee)
Andy Williams (lunar tributary)
Bobby Allison (84 wins)
Ozzy Osbourne (off the rails)
Mickey Thomas (65 today - http://youtu.be/32ScTb6_KHg )
Julianne Moore (http://youtu.be/d4uv0eD5Ufg )
Daryl Hannah (where?)
Terri Schiavo (would have been 51 today - RIP)
Brendan Fraser (where?)
Holly Marie Combs (where?)
Anna Chlumsky (survived a Hollywood childhood)

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 06:59 AM (uJ59D)

62 The second thing I can't understand their strategy on is how they keep expecting us to keep voting for the treasonous assholes.

Because next time, they'll swear, really, truly, on their mother's grave to hew to conservative principles. And instead of treating them like the treasonous assholes they are - which means not voting for any one of them and doing everything possible to primary them out - conservatives will be browbeaten, shamed or deluded enough to think that this time, they really mean it.

Tell me how staying home and letting the Dems sweep the last election cycle would produce any better results than what we have now.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2014 06:59 AM (zF6Iw)

63
If I may, exactly who the fuck is Russell Brand?



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:00 AM (CMkNk)

64 61 Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 06:59 AM (uJ59D)

I didn't know George McClellan was a Joo!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:01 AM (CMkNk)

65 "The Treasury IG says yes there are thousands of docs showing the IRS
[illegally] shared taxpayer information with the WH, but those docs can
not be revealed because of privacy concerns."



This hole goes as deep as they feel like digging.


I'm convinced the sharing of information went both ways and that it got all the way down to handing over new voter registrations to the IRS for auditing.


Let's just call it personal experience.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 03, 2014 07:01 AM (xSCb6)

66 63
If I may, exactly who the fuck is Russell Brand?

Commie Asshole who got rich & famous by marrying Katy Perry.

Posted by: ALH at December 03, 2014 07:02 AM (btTLZ)

67 Sorry - any worse results than what we have now.

Need moar tea.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2014 07:02 AM (zF6Iw)

68 61 Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 06:59 AM (uJ59D)

Mickey Thomas. The voice on "Fooled Around and Fell in Love," one of the seminal tunes from Sefton's senior year in high school.

(**wistful sigh**)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:02 AM (CMkNk)

69 Russel Brand, English twit and celebrity. But mainly a twit.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 07:03 AM (I9oW4)

70 Has anyone ever noticed that Art Garfunkel hasn't aged one bit?

Posted by: Ruth at December 03, 2014 07:03 AM (XDMAg)

71
45 I just can't understand how they are going to explain their strategy.

They know they don't have to explain their strategy. The 24 hour liberal media will create out of thin air multiple life threatening stories that will distract the average voter and viola! its too late to address.

Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 07:05 AM (FGZtn)

72 LOL Thanks, Anna-

Since most of the people there are probably Democrats there are going to be a lot of jawbones to choose from ;^). I'm a Democrat too-officially but I think I'll just keep my jawbone quiet. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2014 07:06 AM (FS3xS)

73 "6 Common Core is doing more than imposing federal control of math and English in the US. It is collecting psychological and personal data on children to go into a permanent government database. This abortion of a program must be terminated and ALL these records eliminated. The federal government has no role in education under the Constitution. Be sure to read this article because it will surely piss you off. But make sure you have taken your heart meds before reading it. "

Thanks for bringing this up, Vic. We parents who understand the perils of CC are struggling to get anyone to grasp on to the danger that lies ahead.

Posted by: Ruth at December 03, 2014 07:07 AM (XDMAg)

74 Vic-It's Wednesday the 3rd Trust me on this. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2014 07:07 AM (FS3xS)

75 66 63
If I may, exactly who the fuck is Russell Brand?

Commie Asshole who got rich & famous by marrying Katy Perry.
Posted by: ALH at December 03, 2014 07:02 AM (btTLZ)


The things you miss when you become a mature adult, right?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:07 AM (CMkNk)

76 JJ @ 68

I had no idea that was him. Wow.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:08 AM (uJ59D)

77 You welcome FenelonSpoke.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 07:08 AM (I9oW4)

78 70 Has anyone ever noticed that Art Garfunkel hasn't aged one bit?
Posted by: Ruth at December 03, 2014 07:03 AM (XDMAg)


He drinks the menstrual fluid of pubescent goats. Like Dick Clark. He tempted fate by going cold turkey and look what happened.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:09 AM (CMkNk)

79 74
Vic-It's Wednesday the 3rd Trust me on this. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2014 07:07 AM (FS3xS)


See #41

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:10 AM (u9gzs)

80 76 JJ @ 68

I had no idea that was him. Wow.
Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:08 AM (uJ59D)


It's one of those tunes that immediately takes me back to a specific place and time.

Might have to give a listen in a bit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:10 AM (CMkNk)

81 >>> Has anyone ever noticed that Art Garfunkel hasn't aged one bit?

You should see him at my place.

Posted by: Madame Tussaud at December 03, 2014 07:12 AM (Ua6T/)

82 I fixed something this morning for breakfast I haven't fixed in a long time. An 8" skillet full of corn bread. I only ate half of it but I keep thinking of going back and eating the rest now.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:14 AM (u9gzs)

83
It's one of those tunes that immediately takes me back to a specific place and time.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:10 AM (CMkNk)

Thats one of those tuneswe called buckle rubbin music. A different time.

Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 07:14 AM (FGZtn)

84
Did anyone listen to the statement from Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark, re Ferguson?


WOW! This guy should be attorney general. Totally ripped Holder to shreds.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:15 AM (CMkNk)

85
By the way, David Clark is black.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:16 AM (CMkNk)

86 84 - Yea I watched that last night J.J. Good stuff right there. I agree with Megan and think we'll see that gentleman on the national stage soon enough. I'm hoping so.

Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 07:16 AM (FGZtn)

87 Morning.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 07:17 AM (YgRX8)

88 Neighbor just came over to get the keys to my car. Grandson has my truck, neighbor has been "borrowing" the car morning and afternoon for two weeks because she took her car to a fly-by-night repair outfit. So I sit with no vehicle at all. again.


This shit is getting old.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:17 AM (u9gzs)

89 If I may, exactly who the fuck is Russell Brand?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton



A no talent, brit poofter.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2014 07:18 AM (jx3vA)

90 "He drinks the menstrual fluid of pubescent goats. Like Dick Clark. "

Anyone know where I can score some??

Posted by: Ruth Ruben at December 03, 2014 07:19 AM (XDMAg)

91 86 - What is it with Milwaukee and their law enforcement? Both Sheriff David Clark and Chief Ed Flynn are way to far on the right for Milwaukee. I like them both.

Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 07:19 AM (FGZtn)

92 Today's soul stealing ginger brought to you by Firefox.

http://tinyurl.com/otuqj33

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 07:20 AM (I9oW4)

93 Privacy concerns with the IRS are BS. I'm positive they could get waivers from some victims. It's all smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at December 03, 2014 07:21 AM (IVgIK)

94 86 Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 07:16 AM (FGZtn)

I will say it now and probably get blasted, but Dave Clark has the chops to be president, if not some position on the national stage.

And I don't give a damn that he wasn't a governor. He has the demeanor, common sense and ability to communicate. He's said all the right things about Ferguson and Holder and hopefully that means he's right-thinking on all the key issues.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:21 AM (CMkNk)

95 There's a simple solution to Common Core.

Home skooling.

But seriously, with computers and the Intertubes, home schooling IS feasible.

On the "Social Justice" thing, I occasionally read the prayer petitions at church. I'm just reading a script. But it's amazing how the word "social" constantly gets edited-out. I just cannot get my tongue to spit it out.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 03, 2014 07:23 AM (V70Uh)

96 Vic @ 88

You're a far more generous soul than I am. Why can't they rent one like everyone else? Just tell them something's come up and you're going to need it for the next few weeks.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:23 AM (uJ59D)

97 93
Privacy concerns with the IRS are BS. I'm positive they could get waivers from some victims. It's all smoke and mirrors.


Posted by: typo dynamofo at December 03, 2014 07:21 AM (IVgIK)

I don't believe a damn thing that comes out of this administration.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:24 AM (u9gzs)

98 @94 You won't get blasted my me. He'd get my vote. Similar to Alan West but without some of the "edge" that West carries.

Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 07:24 AM (FGZtn)

99 Now all company's or businesses, that get Gov grant's, recipients of tax deferrals, non-profits Fed Jobs, etc, must have numbers of minorities or significant management percentages for minorities....Preferably AM's...

That's it!!!!!

Wife came home last night and was passed over for VP job ,, by unqualified minority....

She asked when does a BA degree in communications trump her Masters in Business and experience ?

Had to sit here down and explain her the way things are and what's to come of the future.

Next she will have an all Black Crew in the building..

Racist? This is just the way things are...

Jeh Johnson was on a news clip just after our little seminar on the topic of the Complete Black Affirmative Action Agenda, followed by the Black Caucus..
Finally the light is on.






Posted by: Chauncey from Owen at December 03, 2014 07:26 AM (/WmRg)

100 An Article V Convention might have meant something when we had a political class that respected the constitution and was law abiding but it is clear that any law the Dems/GOPe don't want to follow, will not be followed.

We have also seen crafty lawyers and judges pervert the clear meaning of laws to work their will.

So in this fanciful Article V convention we manage to pass a balanced budget amendment, does anyone really believe politicians would really adhere to it?

Not a snowballs chance in hell.

Every law has been perverted when it suits the powers that be.

Why would any law in an Article V Convention be different?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2014 07:27 AM (e1TGP)

101 96 You're a far more generous soul than I am. Why
can't they rent one like everyone else? Just tell them something's come
up and you're going to need it for the next few weeks.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:23 AM (uJ59D)


Well, when she gets back from taking her daughters to school this morning I have to tell her that tomorrow I have that early Dr's appointment and she will have to make other arrangements.

As for renting a car it's even worse than that. Her husband is in NC working an outage and she/they scheduled these repairs knowing that he would be gone with one of their vehicles and she would be left with none. AND mechanically the truck worked fine. These are fender bender repairs.

Bad decision

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:28 AM (u9gzs)

102 Dave Clark has the chops to be president

Well, as Bradley said to Patton, I'd leave myself a little leeway.
He could certainly do some "Serious Damage" at DOJ. The good kind.
And then we'd all be feeling...glad all over.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 03, 2014 07:28 AM (xq1UY)

103 Chauncey @ 99

I'd give the EEOC a call if I were you.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:29 AM (uJ59D)

104 99 Posted by: Chauncey from Owen at December 03, 2014 07:26 AM (/WmRg)


SCOTUS ruled that crap illegal years ago. She should sue.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:30 AM (u9gzs)

105 Bad decision

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:28 AM (u9gzs)


Stupid should hurt.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 03, 2014 07:31 AM (JO9+V)

106 Wife came home last night and was passed over for VP job ,, by unqualified minority....



At which point she steps back and lets them fail. No sabotage, but no help.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2014 07:32 AM (jx3vA)

107 102 Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 03, 2014 07:28 AM (xq1UY)


I did have a few caveats in my post, but the word "chops" IMHO about Sheriff Clark is accurate.

He's real. In any case, we're all getting way ahead of ourselves and projecting things on the man, but what he said and the way he said it should have been coming out of McConnell's and Boehner's mouths.

That's why I'm all hot and horny for someone like Clark. Grasping at any straws for anyone with even a scintilla of courage and leadership ability.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:32 AM (CMkNk)

108 And an Article V Convention should have already been called for a balanced budget amendment as earlier this year Michigan made 34 states calling for a balanced budget amendment.

Boehner is said to be "studying" it.

Again the clear meaning of the law is being perverted.

Boehner and congress have no control over whether to call for a convention it must be called but they won't.

So there goes your Article V convention.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2014 07:33 AM (e1TGP)

109 Why would any law in an Article V Convention be different?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2014 07:27 AM (e1TGP



Give Congress more power to impeach an unlawful President. Fix the courts by taking the appointments out of the feds and giving it to the States.. And make it absolutely clear that any power not specifically listed in the Constitution for the feds is forbidden. Write a clause to sunset all programs that are already there and not approved.


I would also give the State the power to impeach a President by a majority vote of the State legislators.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:33 AM (u9gzs)

110 Vic @ 101

"taking her daughters to school"... no taxpayer-funded school buses there?

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:34 AM (uJ59D)

111 I'm at the airport heading for New Orleans. Anybody need voodoo powder, grave dust, or chicken bone crosses?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 03, 2014 07:35 AM (labbd)

112 103
Chauncey @ 99



I'd give the EEOC a call if I were you.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:29 AM (uJ59D)


The EEOC is currently full of social justice blacks. They are a major part of the problem, not a solution.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:35 AM (u9gzs)

113 108 So there goes your Article V convention.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2014 07:33 AM (e1TGP)


John Boehner has absolutely ZERO to do with Article V.

It is a convention of the states to propose amendments to the Constitution that specifically BYPASSES Congress. The Founders, particularly George Mason knew it would be the only safety valve in case and in the event that DC became corrupt, as it has.

Forget Boehner, and get on the bus.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:36 AM (CMkNk)

114 IT'S A DAMN DAVE CLARK FIVE JOKE DAMMIT.
I like it like that.
Catch us if you can.
Bits and Pieces.

Cuban heels stomping "Glad All Over," the song that prompted guitar-paying dads from coast to coast to yell up the stairs, "You gonna play that damn thing, or just stomp on the floor all night?"

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 03, 2014 07:36 AM (xq1UY)

115 Wait a sec...is Laura W a member of her own race?

I thought she was just a mutant.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 03, 2014 07:36 AM (/4AZU)

116 Dear Vic,
Thats a full house..
You got your ear to the ground.

Posted by: Chauncey from Owen at December 03, 2014 07:36 AM (/WmRg)

117 Re: Article V

...and undo the goddamned 17th Amendment.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:36 AM (uJ59D)

118 111 I'm at the airport heading for New Orleans. Anybody need voodoo powder, grave dust, or chicken bone crosses?
Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 03, 2014 07:35 AM (labbd)

Bad Joo-Joo = Schumer
Good Joo-Joo = Bibi

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:37 AM (CMkNk)

119 110
Vic @ 101



"taking her daughters to school"... no taxpayer-funded school buses there?

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:34 AM (uJ59D)

That is the "other" issue, they used to ride the school bus, I don't know why they no longer do.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:38 AM (u9gzs)

120 I'm at the airport heading for New Orleans.
Anybody need voodoo powder, grave dust, or chicken bone crosses?
Posted by: All Hail Eris



Ya mon.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2014 07:39 AM (jx3vA)

121 All Hail Eris, care for me to jet down from Jackson? Crawl the French Quarter? Check the cemetery for Democrat zombie voters? Cafe du Mond?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 07:39 AM (I9oW4)

122 @113

Ok, the threshold for a Convention has been reached.

There are now 34 states calling for a federal balanced budget amendment which triggers an Article V convention to amend the constitution.

Now what?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2014 07:40 AM (e1TGP)

123 The other issue is MY truck. Grandson borrowed it for a few hours to move furniture. We are on the second day now.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:40 AM (u9gzs)

124 122 There are now 34 states calling for a federal
balanced budget amendment which triggers an Article V convention to
amend the constitution.



Now what?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2014 07:40 AM (e1TGP)

The article I linked to said two-dozen. Not yet enough.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:41 AM (u9gzs)

125 Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, December 03, 2014. On this month in 1982 Charlotte Kemp was Playmate of the Month.
NSFW
http://playmate.uw.hu/pictures/8212.jpg

Posted by: Alternative Universe Vic at December 03, 2014 07:42 AM (zxQ4h)

126 The other issue is MY truck. Grandson borrowed it for a few hours to move furniture. We are on the second day now.

You never should have invented the wheel, Vic.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2014 07:42 AM (zF6Iw)

127 That is the "other" issue, they used to ride the school bus, I don't know why they no longer do.

One of two things - (a) either the kids are getting bullied, etc. on the bus (happened to me a lot) and she's just trying to protect them, or (b) like a lot of parents these days, she's spoiling her kids by chauffeuring them everywhere.

Until I was old enough to drive myself to school, I always had to take the bus. My parents had jobs and didn't have time to drive me everywhere.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:43 AM (uJ59D)

128 Rickb
Sorry about your wife.
Since she's just been thru the process, maybe she should float her resume around some other orgs?

Posted by: Y-not at December 03, 2014 07:43 AM (9BRsg)

129 Ok, the threshold for a Convention has been reached.

There are now 34 states calling for a federal balanced budget amendment which triggers an Article V convention to amend the constitution.

Now what?



Now we outlaw democrats.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2014 07:44 AM (jx3vA)

130 127 One of two things - (a) either the kids are getting
bullied, etc. on the bus (happened to me a lot) and she's just trying to
protect them, or (b) like a lot of parents these days, she's spoiling
her kids by chauffeuring them everywhere.



Until I was old enough to drive myself to school, I always had to
take the bus. My parents had jobs and didn't have time to drive me
everywhere.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:43 AM (uJ59D)


Also could be that one or both have been banned from the bus. They do that at the drop of a hat here. I haven't asked.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:44 AM (u9gzs)

131 19 Liberals are so stupid they don't even see how stupid they are and how stupid their statements sound.


Immigration Activist: Obama Was So Committed To Working With Congress On Amnesty That He Had To Lie About His Executive Powers


Sounds like something a cheating spouse would say:
"Baby, you were being so jealous that I HAD to lie."

Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2014 07:44 AM (cbfNE)

132 122 Now what?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2014 07:40 AM (e1TGP)


I don't know where you live but maybe you should call your state reps to see where they stand on Article V. I know there is a web page somewhere but if you live in a red state, or a blue state with a GOP state legislative majority, you (and that goes for all of us) need to get on the blower and put the pressure on.

Read Levin's "Liberty Amendments."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:45 AM (CMkNk)

133 Whoops. That was Chauncey's wife. Didnt tead far enough up thread.

Posted by: Y-not at December 03, 2014 07:45 AM (9BRsg)

134 I'd give the EEOC a call if I were you.Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:29 AM (uJ59D)------------I like your optimism.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 03, 2014 07:46 AM (KlVdw)

135 51 #twoyears
and then we'll know.

Posted by: Entfremdung Politik at December 03, 2014 06:51 AM (ksUZo)

Ready!

Posted by: Jeb! 2016 at December 03, 2014 07:47 AM (bHnlE)

136 Also could be that one or both have been banned from the bus. They do that at the drop of a hat here. I haven't asked.

Yeah, that could be it as well.

Given some of the horror stories these days about assaults and other incidents on school buses these days, I'd be tempted to do some chauffeuring myself.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:47 AM (uJ59D)

137 Aw Anna, I'm gonna be booked solid for the next few days. WWII conference (Normandy). Darnit, we need to bump up the date on NoLaMoMe!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 03, 2014 07:47 AM (labbd)

138 @124

That's because some states have supposedly rescinded their calls for a convention for a balanced budget amendment.

There is no provision in the constitution for rescinding an amendment petition.

So once again the law is what the establishment says it is.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2014 07:47 AM (e1TGP)

139 I doubt EEOC would weigh in on a VP job anyway. Once you hit that level there are a lot of "other duties as assigned" and soft qualifications that it's hard to prove discrimination.

Posted by: Y-not at December 03, 2014 07:48 AM (9BRsg)

140 I like your optimism.
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 03, 2014 07:46 AM (KlVdw)


A long shot, I know, but you never know...

also, why not call some of the local news organizations and raise a stink about being passed over for a minority? As has been recently shown to us again, there's nothing our MSM likes better than a good old-fashioned race war.

Posted by: Gran at December 03, 2014 07:49 AM (uJ59D)

141 In honor of today I'm gonna hump something.

Posted by: Doge at December 03, 2014 07:49 AM (JdEZJ)

142 Well we could meet up by the PT boat you know. An MTO Higgins built 78ft torpedo boat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 07:49 AM (I9oW4)

143 Vic, IMO your neighbors are taking advantage of your generosity. Stop letting them.
Also tell the grandson he's not too old to get whupped if he doesn't bring the truck back pronto, gas tank full!

Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2014 07:50 AM (cbfNE)

144 @100

Gee, it's kinda like most all of our government is really working together. Where R's and D's really spell WE. And American voters are just chumps. One day the average American will catch on and the burning will began. I hope it starts with their bagboys, the media.

Posted by: case at December 03, 2014 07:50 AM (VctSv)

145 Right with you, J.J.Sefton.
I'd rather vote for an ex-dogcatcher from podunk, as long as he/she respected the constitution and was law abiding, than any blankety-damn professional politician.
Look what the same old nose-holding-and-voting-Republican got us - we, and our country, betrayed again.
If not Article 5, then Party 3rd !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2014 07:51 AM (OCcU9)

146 From the Department of Bending Over Backward to Avoid Stating the Obvious:

My favorite part of the hammer attack post-mortem was Chief Wiggum's assurance there is no reason to believe the attacks were related to the fact the victim was Bosnian.

Well no shit, Chief. Heckuva job there ....

Dare I ask if anyone pondered whether there is evidence he was attacked because he was white, or am I racist to even harbor such unhelpful thoughts?

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 07:52 AM (bS6uW)

147 When I was in school inside the city there were no buses. Parents took you or you walked. most people walked.


And she just brought the car back. One of the daughters is in Jr. High now across town and the bus has HS students on it too and she doesn't want her on that bus. The other is in a different school. Anyway, I told her she will have to make other arrangements tomorrow.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:52 AM (u9gzs)

148 145 If not Article 5, then Party 3rd !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2014 07:51 AM (OCcU9)


GOP - take it back or take it down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:52 AM (CMkNk)

149 I was bullied on the bus too. It resulted in two black eyes for the bully and three days suspension for us both.

Posted by: freaked at December 03, 2014 07:54 AM (JdEZJ)

150 149 I was bullied on the bus too. It resulted in two black eyes for the bully and three days suspension for us both.
Posted by: freaked at December 03, 2014 07:54 AM (JdEZJ)


Bet you weren't bullied ever again.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:54 AM (CMkNk)

151 143
Vic, IMO your neighbors are taking advantage of your generosity. Stop letting them.

Also tell the grandson he's not too old to get whupped if he doesn't bring the truck back pronto, gas tank full!

Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2014 07:50 AM (cbfNE)

He learned from his mother. Drive it forever and bring it back with both tanks empty and something broke. At least that is what was going on when he borrowed the car.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:55 AM (u9gzs)

152 Ben Carson for President.
He has all of the right qualifications.

Posted by: Entfremdung Politik at December 03, 2014 07:55 AM (yFr2R)

153 Me or hubby chaffeur the kids to school. The issue is that since it's a charter school, the school district jerks us around with the schedule. Takes an hour plus to get to the school (15 min away) and they make the charter kids of all ages ride with the public school high schoolers.
Since dropping the kids off isn't out of the way, we just do it ourselves.

Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2014 07:55 AM (cbfNE)

154 Nope JJ. Not for the next 3 years of HS.

Posted by: freaked at December 03, 2014 07:55 AM (JdEZJ)

155 Wife came home last night and was passed over for VP job ,, by unqualified minority...

**************

Not to rub salt in the wound, but there are actually people who make a living at being unqualified minorities.

I had a black female brought in as my boss, and checked her CV. She hadn't lasted at any company more than two years, but at the same time, hadn't sued anyone. Which led us to believe she was making a killing in severance packages.

Sure enough, when she failed at my company after less than two years, she was sent packing with a full year's salary.

Typical severance was one week for every year of service.


Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 03, 2014 07:55 AM (yxw0r)

156
@ 146

What difference, at this point, does it make?!?1!?!?!1!!!??

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 03, 2014 07:56 AM (HSmrB)

157 I would vote for Ben Carson. He's intelligent, calm, thoughtful, and preaches personal freedom, responsibility and accountability. We could do far worse.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 07:57 AM (bS6uW)

158 Dare I ask if anyone pondered whether there is evidence he was attacked because he was white , or am I racist to even harbor such unhelpful thoughts?



The shouted statements, "Kill whitey!", by the black yutes had no bearing on whether the attack was racial.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2014 07:57 AM (jx3vA)

159 152 Ben Carson for President.
He has all of the right qualifications.
Posted by: Entfremdung Politik at December 03, 2014 07:55 AM (yFr2R)


He's been squishy on the 2nd Amendment and that is a major deal-killer for me. Supposedly he has backtracked on that, but I have to wait and see.

I like the guy but let's wait and see. So far it's Cruz, Walker, Pence, Lee, Haley and Jindal as the field I'd like to choose from.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:57 AM (CMkNk)

160 152
Ben Carson for President.

He has all of the right qualifications.

Posted by: Entfremdung Politik at December 03, 2014 07:55 AM (yFr2R)

A lot of unknowns for him, but we already know he doesn't support the second amendment. That is a major strike.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:57 AM (u9gzs)

161 Carson's 2nd Amendment comments are indeed very troublesome.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 07:59 AM (bS6uW)

162 146 Dare I ask if anyone pondered whether there is evidence he was attacked because he was white, or am I racist to even harbor such unhelpful thoughts?
Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 07:52 AM (bS6uW)


He was an Hispanic-Bosnian. No hate crime.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:59 AM (CMkNk)

163 Morning, all!

After reading all of Vic's links (the summaries) I'm feeling a bit....depressed.
Such madness. *sigh*

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:00 AM (ABcz/)

164 Carson does sound pretty good except for that 2A thing. He would get the Cain / Cosby / Thomas treatment though, guilty or not.

Posted by: freaked at December 03, 2014 08:00 AM (JdEZJ)

165 GOP - take it back or take it down.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton



+1000. Amen.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2014 08:00 AM (jx3vA)

166 Carson would make a fine sidekick for Cruz.

Posted by: freaked at December 03, 2014 08:01 AM (JdEZJ)

167 Why do we need a balanced budget amendment ?
Didn't Pelosi and the Dems pass PAYGO ?
where all spending increases must be accompanied by taxes or budget cuts elsewhere ?

Posted by: McCool at December 03, 2014 08:01 AM (nCSwS)

168 161 Carson's 2nd Amendment comments are indeed very troublesome.
Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 07:59 AM (bS6uW)


You're a damn good politician.

Troublesome = deal-killer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:02 AM (CMkNk)

169 Ben Carson doesn't support the 2nd amendment, Bronko Bama doesn't support the constitution at all....

Damn shame America can't find anyone who back limited government in any way...

Posted by: Sven10077 at December 03, 2014 08:02 AM (eKy6k)

170 167
Why do we need a balanced budget amendment ?

Didn't Pelosi and the Dems pass PAYGO ?

where all spending increases must be accompanied by taxes or budget cuts elsewhere ?



Posted by: McCool at December 03, 2014 08:01 AM (nCSwS)


That was passed long ago and has been ignored ever since.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:02 AM (u9gzs)

171 So far it's Cruz, Walker, Pence, Lee, Haley and Jindal as the field I'd like to choose from.

I like Carson more than all of them. Cruz maybe, but he's probably unelectable. Walker is the best of the rest. No thanks on Pence, Lee, Haley and Jindal.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:02 AM (bS6uW)

172 "The "land inside the 8 lane death strip" just does not give a shit about"

Fixed that headline comment for you, Vic.

The reality is that (for a number of very strange "reasons") making everyone who can get here "Legal" is widely seen as a "good thing" here in Potowmakland. In fact, there is a strong current of thought that the concept of "border" is a bad thing...

Posted by: anon a mouse at December 03, 2014 08:03 AM (/jpU8)

173 171 Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:02 AM (bS6uW)


What have you got against Haley? She is the best of the lot and the most conservative gov in the country.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:04 AM (u9gzs)

174 That was passed long ago and has been ignored ever since.

I ask the question facetiously . . .why doesn't the GOP just use this previous legislation (grandstanded by the Dems) right back against them.

Balanced budget is really just an extension of PAYGO
(it seems to me)

Posted by: McCool at December 03, 2014 08:06 AM (nCSwS)

175 "Dare I ask if anyone pondered whether there is evidence he was attacked because he was white, or am I racist to even harbor such unhelpful thoughts?"

Yes.

Next Q?

Posted by: anon a mouse at December 03, 2014 08:06 AM (/jpU8)

176 It's not a "hate crime" to murder a white man.

The so-called Justice Dept. and the so-called Media should make that clear to everyone.- The No Soup For You Nazi.

Posted by: case at December 03, 2014 08:06 AM (VctSv)

177 So far it's Cruz, Walker, Pence, Lee, Haley and Jindal as the field I'd like to choose from.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:57 AM


I don't see any of these having the gonadic circumference to do the job right. Cruz, in particular, was silent when Bitch McConnell was re-upped as party "leader" in the Senate, and seems to be "positioning" himself for the run. Which means caving to the GOPe.

Haley is a "maybe," but the other four just don't seem to have the goods.

Right now, I'm hoping some as-yet unnamed candidate will come to the fore. Someone who doesn't squish out or pledge only tepid support for basic principles.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for one of them if they are picked. Just can't get enthusiastic about them.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 08:06 AM (yAC3X)

178 171 So far it's Cruz, Walker, Pence, Lee, Haley and Jindal as the field I'd like to choose from.

I like Carson more than all of them. Cruz maybe, but he's probably unelectable. Walker is the best of the rest. No thanks on Pence, Lee, Haley and Jindal.
Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:02 AM (bS6uW)


Cruz is "unelectable?" How so? Seems to me if he were the nominee he'd win.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:07 AM (CMkNk)

179 VIA, thanks for the .22lr sale info. I picked up a brick of the Thunderbolt and a brick of the Winchester LE for the Old man for Christmas. It has been so hard to find at a decent price here and the shortages happened right after I bought our Takedown, so maybe we can actually afford to put a few rounds through it now.

Posted by: DangerGirl at December 03, 2014 08:07 AM (Oqufv)

180
171 Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:02 AM (bS6uW)

I'm ebtting on Walker. I like Carson but he's not going to be electable even if he changed his stance on 2A.

Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 08:07 AM (FGZtn)

181 "....we cut the military budget by 50%..."

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:24 AM (u9gzs)

Bullshit.

We all hate Obama, but pulling these numbers out of *somewhere* doesn't help.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:07 AM (Zu3d9)

182 There was a rally in support of Mikey Brown in my town last night. Can't believe at this late remove anybody would support that a-hole, but there it is.

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 03, 2014 08:07 AM (3ZtZW)

183
Oh boy. Here we go with the Hatfield-McCoy candidate feud. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:08 AM (CMkNk)

184 "I ask the question facetiously . . .why doesn't the GOP just use this
previous legislation (grandstanded by the Dems) right back against them."

I'm. So. Afraid.

Posted by: Johnny Boner at December 03, 2014 08:08 AM (YgRX8)

185 "The Martian" by Andy Wier won the 2014 Goodreads in the sci-fi category. "Lines of Departure" by Marko Kloos came in dead last in the sci-fi category, but at least it went to the final round.


Larry Correia's "Monster Hunter: Nemesis" came in tenth in the horror category.


https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-books-2014

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 03, 2014 08:09 AM (6fyGz)

186 182 There was a rally in support of Mikey Brown in my town last night. Can't believe at this late remove anybody would support that a-hole, but there it is.
Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 03, 2014 08:07 AM (3ZtZW)


He should be supported.

On a pole with the sign "This is what happens when you smoke dope, act like a thug and refuse to be educated."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:09 AM (CMkNk)

187 That's why I'm all hot and horny for someone like Clark. Grasping at any straws for anyone with even a scintilla of courage and leadership ability.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 07:32 AM (CMkNk)

Right there with ya. Plus, and in the minds of the lefties, this is racist, but it would be the ultimate jack slap to the left if the right actually elected a competent black to prominent office. Could you imagine what would happen to the left if the right elected a black person as president who actually fixed the shit. Game eff'n over.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 03, 2014 08:09 AM (BZAd3)

188 PAYGO is a fine example of why if a balanced budget amendment by a miracle was passed there would have to be provisions for a major auditing firm to audit the budget and not leave it up to congress.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:10 AM (u9gzs)

189 181 Bullshit.

We all hate Obama, but pulling these numbers out of *somewhere* doesn't help.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:07 AM (Zu3d9)

Not bullshit. That came from the original sequester bill.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:12 AM (u9gzs)

190 >>>>but it would be the ultimate jack slap to the left if the right actually elected a competent black to prominent office

Would be, but I think Obama kicked that ladder away by his actions. First and Last black Prez.

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 03, 2014 08:12 AM (3ZtZW)

191 I'm betting whoever gets the repub nod will campaign as a conservative, win the nomination, go more to the center during the general election, turn into a squish the minute he wins then govern as a progtard.

Everyone will be happy until the day after the inauguration.

Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 03, 2014 08:14 AM (U7H1n)

192 Would be, but I think Obama kicked that ladder away by his actions. First and Last socialist black Prez.
Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 03, 2014 08:12 AM (3ZtZW)

FIFY

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 03, 2014 08:14 AM (BZAd3)

193 Walker, Cruz whatever. I just want someone that will take the likes of Hairy Reed and shove Nancy P up his ass. I really, really want someone that will fix the stupid of the last 6 years AND make them pay just a little for their wrecklessness. I know, I know - I can dream can't I?

Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 08:15 AM (FGZtn)

194 So, the question about Obama;s need for $6 Billion to fight ebola is....is this to be used overseas or here in the U.S. All along he's been more concerned about Africa. I've lost track of how many of our soldiers are currently "fighting" ebola in Africa. Think we'd ever hear about it if any of them got sick?

Oh yeah, and this from Sharyl Attkisson:CDC: More Than 1,400 People in U.S. Being Actively Monitored for Ebola http://sharylattkisson.com

And the MSM is currently occupied with investigating some snarky Republican staffer for insulting Obama's kids.....

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:16 AM (ABcz/)

195 I like all of the above from what I've seen. I think Cruz in unelectable because the Tea Party narrative (false though it may be) seems to have gained traction with the electorate if the polls are to be believed.

I like Haley, Brown and Perry for the same reasons I like Sarah Palin: good conservative instincts, but not blowing me away intellectually (not saying any of them are unintelligent, I just need to see more from them). The political results in their respective states are a huge plus, though.

I would vote for anyone on that list, I'm just expressing my preference for Carson provided he comes around on the 2A, which is of course core or no deal.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:16 AM (bS6uW)

196 Ben Carson...
Local Doctor, who is held in high esteem here in the Baltimore area.

Lots of discussion concerning his stance on 2A at one of Maryland's largest shooting forums, which I am a member of.

http://tinyurl.com/n945tyv

Read it if you wish.

I am still mostly of the mind that if a white, successful surgeon, with no political experience were to express an interest in the Office of President of the United States, most people would look at him, and suggest he seek some other career path.

But, he certainly gets high points for integrity, honesty, and open debate.

Who knows....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 03, 2014 08:16 AM (wPA9Q)

197 I would vote for Ben Carson. He's intelligent, calm, thoughtful, and preaches personal freedom, responsibility and accountability. We could do far worse.

He has the character to be president, but not the resume.

Posted by: --- at December 03, 2014 08:18 AM (MMC8r)

198 The Hump Day dance is your chance to do the hump!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2014 08:18 AM (2Ojst)

199 Undoubtedly the $6 billion is to be used in Africa the US with it's white privilege doesn't need any help.

Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2014 08:18 AM (v5UtH)

200 Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:12 AM (u9gzs)

The WH proposed about $495 billion. That's not even close to a 50% reduction.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:19 AM (Zu3d9)

201 196 But, he certainly gets high points for integrity, honesty, and open debate.

Who knows....
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 03, 2014 08:16 AM (wPA9Q)


White, black or purple. I could care fuck-all. As long as they think and would act like I would. To hell with politicians and lawyers. I want real actual people, people who have at least run a lemonade stand, to lead the country.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:19 AM (CMkNk)

202 He has the character to be president, but not the resume.

I don't disagree.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:19 AM (bS6uW)

203 I've been a bit scarce lately, as I started a new job on Monday, and it looks like I'm going to be pretty busy. This is a good thing, but unfortunately I won't be able to hang out with you jackwagons as much.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2014 08:19 AM (2Ojst)

204 "VIA, thanks for the .22lr sale info."

DG,
glad I could help. That's why, when I se em' I toss them up to the Horde.

For those that missed them, three links at the bottom of the ONT to good prices on 22r, with free shipping.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 03, 2014 08:20 AM (wPA9Q)

205 At this point, I want Cruz, simply because he's the only one who's demonstrated that he would/could have the balls to actually roll back a lot of what Obama has done - including cutting back out of control agencies like EPA, IRS, and HHS.

Like the koala, he has no f$#Ls left to give for any of Obama's changes.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:20 AM (ABcz/)

206 202 He has the character to be president, but not the resume.

I don't disagree.
Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:19 AM (bS6uW)


Character (and known positions on the key issues) IS the resume.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:20 AM (CMkNk)

207 Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:12 AM (u9gzs)

And...if you add up the contingency funding and other assorted additions, you get a lot more.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:21 AM (Zu3d9)

208 Cruz is my number one pick.

Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2014 08:22 AM (cbfNE)

209 Character (and known positions on the key issues) IS the resume.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:20 AM (CMkNk)

I think you are mostly correct, but the leviathan needs to be managed better, and we need a strong executive skilled in controlling organizations.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:22 AM (Zu3d9)

210 209 I think you are mostly correct, but the leviathan needs to be managed better, and we need a strong executive skilled in controlling organizations.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:22 AM (Zu3d9)


If by control you mean "shrink/dismantle" then I agree, kiddo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:23 AM (CMkNk)

211 He has the character to be president, but not the resume.

Surgeon General? Head of VA? Medical degree isn't necessary to oversee the dismantling of all the new federal agencies created by Obamacare or any of the pre-existing redundant federal agencies...

Yeah, I'm a fantacist.

Posted by: HR drinking coffee at December 03, 2014 08:23 AM (ImIut)

212 Congrats on the new job, Insomniac!!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:24 AM (ABcz/)

213 While Illinois (chicago actually) is a hotbed of Commies, it's also the state that provided us RWR (go Dixon!) and also the GOP convention which brought us Abe Lincoln.

Posted by: TheThinMan at December 03, 2014 08:24 AM (8oe0E)

214 200 CBD

OK, I had my 50% wrong (from memory)



50% of the "sequestration" was to be taken from the military. From Military.com


Sequestration is part of the Budget Control Act that mandates $1.2
trillion in cuts across federal agencies to include $500 million to the
military over the next decade. Congress wrote sequestration into
legislation to provide motivation for Congress to agree to a deficit
reduction plan to replace the federal spending cuts. When they failed to
reach such an agreement, sequestration was triggered on March 1.



But if you go read the actual US Code that was written most of Obama's Social Justice programs were exempted.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:24 AM (u9gzs)

215 Posted by: HR drinking coffee at December 03, 2014 08:23 AM (ImIut)

Preach it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:24 AM (Zu3d9)

216 >>At this point, I want Cruz, simply because he's the only one who's demonstrated that he would/could have the balls to actually roll back a lot of what Obama has done - including cutting back out of control agencies like EPA, IRS, and HHS.

Despite his lack of charisma this is why I'm leaning Walker at the moment. Cruz talks a good game but he hasn't actually accomplished anything. Walker actually has rolled things back with a very divided state house and he's got executive experience. And I'm kind of done with electing senators to the presidency.

Still early. I'm sure they will all be called RINOs before the election.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2014 08:25 AM (g1DWB)

217 Ammo Alert



I left three alerts for 22r at Cabela's, with free shipping at the bottom of the ONT.



Hope they are still in stock, because that is some good pricing for some areas of the US.



And free shipping on single boxes less then $100.00 is almost unheard of.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 03, 2014 06:32 AM (wPA9Q)




And meanwhile my back order through Midway has been cancelled since their supplier can't say when they will have the same 1400 round buckets of .22 that Gander Mountain was selling here at their grand opening just a few months ago.

I will believe the ammo shortage is over when I can go down to Wal*Mart on any day of the week and buy a 555 round box of .22LR for less than $25, just like I used to be able to do before Choom-boy got elected.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 03, 2014 08:25 AM (6fyGz)

218 213 While Illinois (chicago actually) is a hotbed of Commies, it's also the state that provided us RWR (go Dixon!) and also the GOP convention which brought us Abe Lincoln.
Posted by: TheThinMan at December 03, 2014 08:24 AM (8oe0E)


A long time ago, in a country far, far away . . .

And yet you never know.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:25 AM (CMkNk)

219 "Character (and known positions on the key issues) IS the resume."

also "shrink/dismantle"

^^^^^these^^^^^

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2014 08:25 AM (OCcU9)

220 FenelonSpoke, may the Lord of Hosts grant you the wisdom to know when to start smiting with the jawbone of a Democrat.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2014 06:58 AM (I9oW4)



and the people say AMEN

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 03, 2014 08:25 AM (6fyGz)

221 >>>If I may, exactly who the fuck is Russell Brand?
<<<

A limey dirtbag masquerading as a comedian.

Posted by: Fritz at December 03, 2014 08:25 AM (UzPAd)

222 Character (and known positions on the key issues) IS the resume.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:20 AM

Maybe it's just me, but I would definitely like to see some actual results from a prospective candidate's actions before I could show much interest. They can all talk a good game, but let's have a display of effort before we get too enthusiastic.

Hell, I wouldn't even care if it was failed effort. I just want to see that the next nominee believes in something enough that he puts it on the line.

That seems to disqualify most of the so-called favorites right out of the box....

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 08:26 AM (yAC3X)

223 "Surgeon General? Head of VA?"

This was a missed opportunity by Obozo, in my opinion.

Yes, Carson would have probably declined the nomination.
But, it would have shown Obozo as capable of making non-partisan decisions, with the interest of the nation as his first concern.

And...Carson would have been damn good at either position.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 03, 2014 08:27 AM (wPA9Q)

224 I'm on board with whichever Moron suggested that in response to Obama's illegal amnesty, the Republicans defund everything and the pass a budget piece by piece, making sure that only those programs of actual value get funded.
Like, money NIH and HHS money spent on ebola research and NOT millions for Gruber's consulting fees.

Guess I'm a fantacist, too...

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:27 AM (ABcz/)

225
Skewed by Italians!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:27 AM (CMkNk)

226 Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:24 AM (ABcz/)

Thanks, Lizzy! I think it's going to be a good gig. Things were not going well at the last place, so it was a big relief to land this new position.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2014 08:28 AM (2Ojst)

Posted by: --- at December 03, 2014 08:28 AM (MMC8r)

228 11 I would be satisfied if they simply prosecuted Louis Lerner and whoever at the WH was getting these docs. Or in lieu of that, fire everybody at the IRS who is in a supervisory position and permanently blackball them from government employment forever.[/]
======================

Seems very reasonable to me.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:28 AM (LISuA)

229

Oh, balls....

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 08:28 AM (yAC3X)

230 I knew this was a right-leaning blog, but this is ridiculous!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2014 08:28 AM (2Ojst)

Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 03, 2014 08:28 AM (Knixy)

232 Barrel. You guys need to learn to put the italic killer in your nick so if you miss it it is still killed.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:29 AM (u9gzs)

Posted by: --- at December 03, 2014 08:29 AM (MMC8r)

234 MrScribbler...I want you inside me.

Posted by: The Barrel at December 03, 2014 08:29 AM (2Ojst)

235
Well, hello, MrScribbler!

Posted by: The Barrel at December 03, 2014 08:29 AM (cbfNE)

236
Barrel! Oh barrel! Where are you?

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:29 AM (LISuA)

237
Look, if leftists in office can fuck things up intentionally or not, surely a decent conservative citizen in office can right the ship by common sense.

But maybe since the pooch has already been pre-screwed, maybe it's impossible.

I'm just thinking if they can take a blowtorch to the Constitution, shouldn't we be able to burn down (metaphorically) the bureaucracy????


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:30 AM (CMkNk)

238 I think you are mostly correct, but the leviathan needs to be managed better, and we need a strong executive skilled in controlling organizations.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:22 AM (Zu3d9)

He doesn't have to control them himself. Probably Reagan's greatest talent was picking exceptional people to do the wrenching for him.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 03, 2014 08:30 AM (BZAd3)

239 208 Cruz is my number one pick.Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2014 08:22 AM (cbfNE)



My number one pick is my nose.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 03, 2014 08:30 AM (BLFGI)

240 239 208 Cruz is my number one pick.Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2014 08:22 AM (cbfNE)



My number one pick is my nose.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 03, 2014 08:30 AM (BLFGI)


I the words of Dr. Johnny Fever, "BOOGER!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:31 AM (CMkNk)

241 This shit is getting old.


Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 07:17 AM (u9gzs)



Riding mower!

Posted by: Zombie George Jones at December 03, 2014 08:31 AM (uSAVP)

242 Italicans!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 03, 2014 08:31 AM (wPA9Q)

243 Having grown up in Central Illinois near New Salem, I was force fed a diet of just how "great" Abe Lincoln was. Despite the fact that I was home
schooled.

I can assure you that Lincoln was no conservative. If you get into his early writings while he was a lawyer in and around the central counties of Illinois, you might make the claim that he was a big gub'mint socialist.

Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 03, 2014 08:31 AM (U7H1n)

244 MP4 is back from vacation and yet we get no story? What the hell?!

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:32 AM (LISuA)

245
Character, Shrink, Dismantle '16


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:32 AM (CMkNk)

246 I still would prefer we leave conservative people in congress there. We have too few in Congress and moving them to the WH is self-defeating even if they win. I would prefer that we pick candidates from Governors, preferably from a Red State.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:32 AM (u9gzs)

247 National Enquirer would make their Hillary! rehab story more believable if they weren't also pushing a "US Navy recovers flying saucer" story on the same page.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:33 AM (LISuA)

248 Lincoln slept here.

Posted by: Captain David Derickson at December 03, 2014 08:33 AM (VctSv)

249 Yes, Carson would have probably declined the nomination.

But, it would have shown Obozo as capable of making non-partisan
decisions, with the interest of the nation as his first concern.


Which of course he's not, because the best interest of the nation isn't anywhere on the list of things he's interested in.



http://youtu.be/4327HSXY56k

Posted by: HR drinking coffee at December 03, 2014 08:34 AM (ImIut)

250 Character, Shrink, Dismantle '16

Nothing would be finer. Unfortunately it will probably be Rope, Chair and Rafter as usual.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:35 AM (bS6uW)

251 247 National Enquirer would make their Hillary! rehab story more believable if they weren't also pushing a "US Navy recovers flying saucer" story on the same page.
Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:33 AM (LISuA)


Need I remind you the the Enquirer took down the Silky Pony.

But still, "Bill Clinton's Love Child Cloned From Lewinsky Dress Semen. . . by Aliens on UFO using Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa's DNA"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:35 AM (CMkNk)

252 >>I'm just thinking if they can take a blowtorch to the Constitution,
shouldn't we be able to burn down (metaphorically) the bureaucracy????


Yes, of course. The only problem is that doing this puts a lot of entrenched, partisan bureaucrats out of work/power - and they will not go easily or quietly. Lord knows how many Lois Lerners there are currently employed by us who have spent decades wielding power and pleasing their political friends (like the Clintons). Which is why reform is a joke. They'd just hunker down and wait for the next administration. They need to go - and whomever actually does this will be absolutely destroyed by the unions, the Dems and the MSM in the process. Who is willing to do that?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:35 AM (ABcz/)

253 I would put a "Shrink/Dismantle 2016" magnet on my car. The Obamavoters who work in my building are too stupid to realize it's mocking them.

Posted by: HR drinking coffee at December 03, 2014 08:35 AM (ImIut)

254 I would prefer that we pick candidates from Governors, preferably from a Red State. Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:32 AM

Got someone in mind, Vic?

At least this might overcome my objection to would-be candidates who can talk a great game but go limp when it's time to put some effort into getting things done.

Remember: Choom Boy talked real nice and got his base all excited. He never did a friggin' thing, though.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 08:35 AM (yAC3X)

255 My current hope is that when Jeb is finally in the White House and the GOP has both houses of Congress that then the Republican leadership will stand up to the liberals and really kick some ass!



/sarc

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 03, 2014 08:35 AM (fL/7/)

256 Wow, what with the Department of Labor files on all American workers, the Dept. of Education database on students, the IRS databases, the EPA databases, etc etc, thank the lord above nobody has unified all that information in one place! Just imagine the files on each and every citizen that could be created.

Posted by: NSA Utah Data Center at December 03, 2014 08:36 AM (LISuA)

257 247
National Enquirer would make their Hillary! rehab story more believable
if they weren't also pushing a "US Navy recovers flying saucer" story on
the same page.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:33 AM (LISuA)



But is it POSSIBLE that the US Navy recovered a flying saucer? And the answer is, "YES!"

Posted by: Ancient Aliens guy at December 03, 2014 08:36 AM (yxw0r)

258 "And meanwhile my back order through Midway has been cancelled since their supplier can't say when they will have the same 1400 round buckets of .22 that Gander Mountain was selling"

I have two backorders with Sportsman's guide that have rolled into almost a year of being back ordered.

Of course, the one is for ten bricks that they offered with no purchase limit.
So, I am perfectly willing to wait those out.

The buckets?

Not once have I been able to even get in an order, let alone go into back order.

When Cabela's opened the Christiana Delaware store, they pulled in every piece of 22r inventory that was in Cabela's warehouse system for the event.

Sold out in four hours.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 03, 2014 08:36 AM (wPA9Q)

259 GMB, I have copies of most of his early speeches, some of his legal briefs, most of his letters. Where do you find a tendency toward Socialism in Lincoln's works?

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2014 08:36 AM (2cS/G)

260 " then the Republican leadership will stand up to the liberals"


Heh.


You make joke.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 08:37 AM (YgRX8)

261 Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:35 AM (ABcz/)

Hell hath no fury like an entrenched bureaucrat with no responsibility for performance or accountability for incompetence but with a really sweeeet lifetime pension indexed to inflation.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 03, 2014 08:38 AM (fL/7/)

262 But still, "Bill Clinton's Love Child Cloned From Lewinsky Dress Semen. . . by Aliens on UFO using Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa's DNA"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 03, 2014 08:35 AM


Damn, I miss the Weekly World News!

Even went to NYC to see the Bat Boy musical*....

* it sucked.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 08:38 AM (yAC3X)

263 MP4 is back from vacation and yet we get no story? What the hell?!

Pony up the bucks for platinum membership.

But here's a little story that I've told before: one day, the ferociously omnisexual actress Tallulah Bankhead was at a party. One guest, knowing of her reputation for sleeping with almost anyone who asked, casually mentioned that he'd like "a little pussy."

"Oh, darling, so would I,"
Bankhead shot back. "Mine's as big as my handbag!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2014 08:38 AM (zF6Iw)

264 Maria Bartiromo is giving me a pro-business boner.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:39 AM (bS6uW)

265 Need I remind you the the Enquirer took down the Silky Pony.


That's why I actually read the story-- with the Enquirer you can never tell, and they might indeed have a story there.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:39 AM (LISuA)

266 >>>My current hope is that when Jeb is finally in the White House and the GOP has both houses of Congress that then the Republican leadership will stand up to the liberals and really kick some ass!<<<

This order is on hold until the GOPe can find new funding to get new clown shoes.

Posted by: Fritz at December 03, 2014 08:39 AM (UzPAd)

267
264 Maria Bartiromo is giving me a pro-business boner.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 03, 2014 08:39 AM (bS6uW)


Word.

Posted by: Joey Ramone at December 03, 2014 08:39 AM (2Ojst)

268 Sorry for the driveby, but I actually have to work. Bastards!


Have a good one.

Posted by: DangerGirl at December 03, 2014 08:39 AM (Oqufv)

269 >>....thank the lord above nobody has unified all that information in one
place! Just imagine the files on each and every citizen that could be
created.


*AHEM*

Don't forget about me!

And unlike the NSA datacenter in some flyover state, you have no idea how many DC bureaucrats can access me!!

Posted by: Obamacare Hub at December 03, 2014 08:39 AM (ABcz/)

270 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2014 08:38 AM (zF6Iw)
===========================

annnnnnd... that's Hollywood!

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:40 AM (LISuA)

271 "Tallulah Bankhead"


Full throttle, baby.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 08:42 AM (YgRX8)

272 I just can't understand how they are going to explain their strategy. Impeachment is off the table and now evidently defunding is also off thew table. What weapons do they have left, more hot air?

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 06:43 AM (u9gzs)


Apparently, their mighty weapon will be some kind of "we don't approve of what the Preezy did" non-binding, faux-legal, silliness.

And then give the Dims everything they want.

I knew this would be the case when Boehner retained the Speaker's post

because this what he did after 2010 - lay down like a dog begging for mercy.

But still I had hope.

The message of the voters was very clear - stop Obama, get the economy going, stop amnesty,

But, hey-

telling Obama you disapprove of him burning down the middle class while you hand him more matches-

well, that's almost as good.

Thanks for nothing you gin-soaked, dumb, orange-skinned, shit-eating worm.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 03, 2014 08:43 AM (KBvAm)

273 91 86 - What is it with Milwaukee and their law enforcement? Both Sheriff David Clark and Chief Ed Flynn are way to far on the right for Milwaukee. I like them both.
Posted by: Talibill at December 03, 2014 07:19 AM (FGZtn)

With ya on clark, Flynn on the other hand is a little to cozy with the lefty mayor and is a gun grabber.

Posted by: wisconbowhunter at December 03, 2014 08:43 AM (NloOc)

274 Right now, I'm hoping some as-yet unnamed candidate
will come to the fore. Someone who doesn't squish out or pledge only
tepid support for basic principles.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for one of them if they are picked. Just can't get enthusiastic about them.


Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 08:06 AM (yAC3X)



How about this one?


https://www.facebook.com/PresidentNotTheBossOfYou

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 03, 2014 08:43 AM (6fyGz)

275 252 I've been wondering about that. We need to figure out a way to make bureaucrats self-deport from their jobs. But how?

Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2014 08:44 AM (cbfNE)

276 No wonder nothing useful gets done in Washington. Per the White House, when somebody says he changed the law it's a meaningless colloquialism.

Posted by: Fritz at December 03, 2014 08:45 AM (UzPAd)

277 "Thanks for nothing you gin-soaked, dumb, orange-skinned, shit-eating worm."


And there you have it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 08:45 AM (YgRX8)

278 Got someone in mind, Vic?

At least this might
overcome my objection to would-be candidates who can talk a great game
but go limp when it's time to put some effort into getting things done.

Remember: Choom Boy talked real nice and got his base all excited. He never did a friggin' thing, though.


Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 08:35 AM (yAC3X)


As I said, I like Haley, then there is Perry if he can overcome the lies being spread by the MFM, the Dems, and the RINOs of the RNCe. Also a few months ago someone mentioned Martinez as a good pick. But I don't know much about her.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:45 AM (u9gzs)

279 When I'm President, I look forward to-

getting blackout drunk every night with Speaker Boehner.

*hoists bottle of cheap-ass bourbon*

*Dook*

*Dook*

*Dook*

Posted by: Drinky Clinton at December 03, 2014 08:46 AM (KBvAm)

280 >>We need to figure out a way to make bureaucrats self-deport from their jobs. But how?

Step 1: Eliminate public sector unions.
Step 2????

This is why Walker has such appeal - as Jack Straw mentioned up-thread.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:47 AM (ABcz/)

281
But still, "Bill Clinton's Love Child Cloned From Lewinsky Dress Semen. . . by Aliens on UFO using Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa's DNA"

You forgot Judge Crater.

Posted by: Snowman at December 03, 2014 08:47 AM (brIR5)

282 True Admissions Time ...


The Boehner Strategy is why I didn't bother to vote last time. Just don't think it matters.


I'll watch the first couple weeks of the new Congress, just to see if anything changes. If not, I won't bother in 2016 either.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 03, 2014 08:48 AM (Oz2Jh)

283 OK, off to bed now. Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 03, 2014 08:48 AM (6fyGz)

284 Posted by: naturalfake at December 03, 2014 08:43 AM (KBvAm)

What's maddening about these fools taking defunding off the table is that the dire predictions of the destruction of the Republican party if they "shut down" government never came to pass.

Remember the short government shut down? Yeah....neither did the voters, who handed the Republicans a huge victory the very next year!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:48 AM (Zu3d9)

285 "*hoists bottle of cheap-ass bourbon*"


Wouldn't they make a pair. Drinky and Dumbass.

*arrange nicknames per your own mileage*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 08:48 AM (YgRX8)

286 I like Haley, Brown and Perry for the same reasons I like Sarah Palin:
good conservative instincts, but not blowing me away intellectually (not
saying any of them are unintelligent, I just need to see more from
them).

--

Perry stepped on his wanker a time or two last time around, so I can see where one might get that impression. But Nikki Haley does not come across as lackluster or unintelligent. In fact, I find her highly charismatic, and always cheerful. She's well reasoned, thoughtful, conservative and kind. She has a great presence. I'd be thrilled if she ran.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 03, 2014 08:49 AM (tsGZY)

287 But Nikki Haley does not come across as lackluster or unintelligent. In fact, I find her highly charismatic, and always cheerful. She's well reasoned, thoughtful, conservative and kind. She has a great presence. I'd be thrilled if she ran.


Posted by: Lady in Black at December 03, 2014 08:49 AM (tsGZY)


Sacred honor compels me to...

Posted by: Will Folks at December 03, 2014 08:51 AM (2Ojst)

288 What's maddening about these fools taking defunding off the table is
that the dire predictions of the destruction of the Republican party if
they "shut down" government never came to pass.

--

Makes me wonder if they're really, truly afraid of the MFM, or if they just hide behind that cloak to further this soft tyranny.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 03, 2014 08:51 AM (tsGZY)

289 >>Lizzy at December 03, 2014 08:47 AM (ABcz/)

If we could accomplish Step 1 everything else could fall into place.

I think we overlook the enormous power of the permanent bureaucracy and focus too much on politicians sometimes. Politicians come and go but bureaucrats are forever.

And they are overwhelmingly liberal democrats. Liberal democrats are the party of big government and like minded bureaucrats are their allies.

Think about it. When we talk about cutting government what we are really talking about is cutting the bureaucracy. So why would these people ever support our cause?

Get rid of public sector unions, make getting rid of bureaucrats easy and you take away enormous power from the left.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2014 08:54 AM (g1DWB)

290 I do not wonder at all. Fully believe Boehner, McCain, et al collude with Obama on things they personally desire yet the base despises ... such as amnesty.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 03, 2014 08:54 AM (Oz2Jh)

291 Remember the short government shut down? Yeah....neither did the voters, who handed the Republicans a huge victory the very next year!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:48 AM (Zu3d9)


Yeah, that's the thing. Especially, when you've just been given a big ass mandate.

It's just good politics to wield the power heavily in the first six months to one year for the things your base wants,

after that focus on wedge issues to screw your opponents during voting season.

Honestly, if I can get this. They should be able to. And it's something the Dims do every single time.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 03, 2014 08:54 AM (KBvAm)

292 @259

Do you have his writings 1832-1858?

There are several passages there where his socialistic tendencies come to the fore.

He advocates several times during his early career for the gub'mint to give money to this or that person for this or that reason.

It is dull tiresome reading but it is there.


Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 03, 2014 08:55 AM (C8x6r)

293 Senators, especially first-term senators, need NOT apply.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 03, 2014 08:55 AM (V70Uh)

294 287 Sacred honor compels me to...

Posted by: Will Folks at December 03, 2014 08:51 AM (2Ojst)


It compels you to get the shit kicked out of you if she was my wife.

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 08:55 AM (u9gzs)

295 Not knowing anything about Bankhead, I went straight to Wikipedia (my authoritative source on anything frivolous), and found she described herself once as "ambisextrous".

That's a great word.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:55 AM (LISuA)

296 Which nicely makes the case that they are colluding.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2014 08:56 AM (OCcU9)

297 Yes, I should have most of those. I've read most of them, never got the impression you got. Any particular era, case, political race you can point to?

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2014 08:56 AM (2cS/G)

298 Yesterday, as mentioned earlier here by others, Sheriff Clarke basically covered an entire platform of conservative thought in his interview with Megyn Kelly. And he made it sound like he had command of element of what he was talking about.

I hope he doesn't slip below the surface and that he gets some time in the spotlight so we can see the depth of his substance.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 03, 2014 08:56 AM (BZAd3)

299 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 03, 2014 08:48 AM (Zu3d9)

Rush made a very good point yesterday, in that the GOPe surrendering pre-emptively on the budget essentially defangs all the new (and old) conservatives in the Congress and keeps them from doing anything to slow the pork laden gravy train. I think same argument goes with amnesty!

I hate these traitorous scum.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 03, 2014 08:56 AM (fL/7/)

300 >>>There are several passages there where his socialistic tendencies come to the fore.

Yep. At the time, GOP was the progressive element in American politics.

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 03, 2014 08:58 AM (3ZtZW)

301 It compels you to get the shit kicked out of you if she was my wife.


or, even if she weren't. That's one guy whose picture from a hospital room the world would cheer. What a piece of scum.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 08:59 AM (LISuA)

302 Boner has already surrendered on Obama's illegal amnesty and sold us out.

-
We've been bruised, betrayed, 'Bammered and Bonered.

It is amazing that both major parties have decided to rule against the will of the American people.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 03, 2014 08:59 AM (ee9LE)

303 OT


Big day at work this morning. #2 guy flew down to make an announcement about "restructuring". The big auditorium, video conferencing rooms, and all other venues are full and they aren't letting anyone else in. I'm back at my desk waiting for the livestream they promised to set up. Rumor is our entire site is on the block, moving the HQ elsewhere.


Merry Christmas!

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 08:59 AM (GQ8sn)

304 "It is amazing that both major parties have decided to rule against the will of the American people."


They have the best interests of D.C. in mind, not the people.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 09:00 AM (YgRX8)

305 Not knowing anything about Bankhead, I went straight to Wikipedia (my authoritative source on anything frivolous), and found she described herself once as "ambisextrous".

She once said about sex (quoting from memory, here), "Darling, I don't know what I am. The conventional position gives me claustrophobia and all the others give me either a stiff neck or lockjaw."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2014 09:01 AM (zF6Iw)

306 Mitch McConnell is to meet privately with the JEF today to provide a sloppy blow job stern words to this tyrant.

#bonedweare

Posted by: Ebola at December 03, 2014 09:01 AM (XzRw1)

307 Shit. Sorry, EC. Been there, got the tee-shirt.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 09:01 AM (YgRX8)

308 Over at HotAir... Sebelius essentially echoing Gruber.

The arrogance of the elite left is breathtaking. And those who follow them appear indeed too stupid to realize that Gruber and ilk are talking about them.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 03, 2014 09:01 AM (BZAd3)

309 Off viral sock.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 03, 2014 09:01 AM (XzRw1)

310 @252 Lizzy..no politician will EVER be willing to do that, that's why We the People have Pitchforks. (or their modern-day equivalents) Well you DO have a pitchfork, right?

Posted by: just another bitter clinger at December 03, 2014 09:02 AM (+f598)

311 It is amazing that both major parties have decided to rule against the will of the American people.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 03, 2014 08:59 AM (ee9LE)
Look, it has been my contention for most of my adult life that ALL politicians are whores. It's just a matter of degree. If one considers them just that, you won't be disappointed.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 03, 2014 09:02 AM (TPimP)

312 Shit. Sorry, EC. Been there, got the tee-shirt.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 09:01 AM (YgRX



We've all been waiting since October.

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:02 AM (GQ8sn)

313 Posted by: naturalfake at December 03, 2014 08:54 AM (KBvAm)


Look at the bright side, with this strategy, Boehner and McConnell won't be disinvited from any A-list Christmas parties, and won't miss a single free bar during the holidays!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 03, 2014 09:03 AM (fL/7/)

314 Even went to NYC to see the Bat Boy musical*....

* it sucked.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 08:38 AM (yAC3X)


Hey! I'm half-bat and half-boy.

I play stickball and eat moths a-a-a-a-and that's about it.

You were expecting "The Sound of Music", maybe?

Posted by: Bat Boy at December 03, 2014 09:04 AM (KBvAm)

315 While he was a lawyer, traveling the Tazewell, Peoria, and Woodford County Circuit. You might also look into the sections that cover Sangamon and Champaign County.

This is a recurring theme with Lincoln.

Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 03, 2014 09:04 AM (C8x6r)

316 Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 03, 2014 08:58 AM (3ZtZW)

At that time, there was no GOP. It came later. But Socialism like tendencies (or Progressivism) is as old as the hills in American politics. Lincoln was more of a crony capitalist in those days, I believe, as was nearly everyone in those far more innocent times. Mostly he was trying to get government money to build railroads someplace, because that was how fortunes were being made. It had nothing to do with his political philosophy, I wouldn't think, unless you want to hold him to a very strict (almost impossible) standard.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 09:05 AM (LISuA)

317 My current hope is that when Jeb is finally in the White House and the GOP has both houses of Congress that then the Republican leadership will stand up to the liberals and really kick some ass!

-
And then the Tooth Fairy will fund my 401(k).

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 03, 2014 09:06 AM (ee9LE)

318 Look at the bright side, with this strategy, Boehner and McConnell won't be disinvited from any A-list Christmas parties, and won't miss a single free bar during the holidays!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 03, 2014 09:03 AM (fL/7/)


Yeah, it's amazing how much influence the opportunity to suck down a few cocktail weenies and free drinks wields over these losers.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 03, 2014 09:07 AM (KBvAm)

319 Boehner and McConnell are trying to create a "we tried" image while they still have the cover of "only controlling 1/2 of 1/3 of the Federal Govt".


This shit will not change, even if they win the White House.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 03, 2014 09:07 AM (Oz2Jh)

320 308 Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 03, 2014 09:01 AM (BZAd3)

"they mean those teabaggers"...

right Moonbat they mean *me* the political creed that was not invited to any of the closed door meetings, the one party ramrod convention etc etc

not *you* the *moderate non-socialist* "JFK" Democrat.....

"yeah uh exactly...when does Duh View come on?"

Check the TV Guide for "Electrolyte Power Hour"

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 03, 2014 09:07 AM (/4AZU)

321 You were expecting "The Sound of Music", maybe?
Posted by: Bat Boy at December 03, 2014 09:04 AM


Naaaahhhh...what I was hoping for was "My Fair Bat Boy." Or at least "The Bat Boy and I."

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 09:07 AM (yAC3X)

322 Sebelius essentially echoing Gruber.

-
Yeah, the reason we don't like Ocare is we're economically illiterate. We're so damn dumb we think paying more for less is a bad thing.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 03, 2014 09:09 AM (ee9LE)

323 "This shit will not change, even if they win the White House."

No, it won't. With the GOPe in firm control of the Congressional Republicans and a loaded primary system.

I don't know, folks. I don't know.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 09:09 AM (YgRX8)

324 More on the Boner sellout. He may even go to Pelosi to get votes since it looks like House conservatives are up in arms.


http://is.gd/c5uwnv

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 09:10 AM (u9gzs)

325 Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 03, 2014 09:02 AM (TPimP)


I agree that almost all politicians are whores, but I wish they were cheap whores!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 03, 2014 09:10 AM (fL/7/)

326 I'll look, but I highly doubt I'll find Socialism as one of his core beliefs, pretty sure I would have noticed that by now.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2014 09:11 AM (2cS/G)

327 Obama is now planning an illegal gun control decree. We didn't fight him on his illegal illegal alien decree, so why not.

Shame about all those damn boating accidents.

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2014 09:12 AM (BPMYx)

328 Well that's it.


#2 guy just confirmed it. Our entire location has been cancelled.


Merry Christmas y'all. I'm done!



Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)

329
*sings*

All's I want is a cave so dark
Lots of moths to eat in the park
Hanging by my feet is a lark!
Ohhh, wouldn't it be loverly?

Posted by: My Fair Bat Boy at December 03, 2014 09:13 AM (KBvAm)

330 326 Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2014 09:11 AM (2cS/G)

You're going to find a proto-populism that is not rhetorically too different from the current "3d way" fucks.

Sorry Linc...trust me I wish it were not so.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 03, 2014 09:13 AM (/4AZU)

331 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed typist at December 03, 2014 09:13 AM (M1uf/)

332 328 Well that's it.


#2 guy just confirmed it. Our entire location has been cancelled.


Merry Christmas y'all. I'm done!





Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)


Damn, EC. I'm really sorry about that.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2014 09:13 AM (2Ojst)

333 Every single thing that Abe Lincoln ever wrote.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln1?view=toc

Much of it is boring as heck but it is all here.

Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (C8x6r)

334 or as they call it in gop leadership offices "ok, fine, we'll shut up"

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (kso21)

335 Yeah, pretty much by definition, murder is a hate crime. And as Sefton says above, the motive isn't the crime.

The "hate crime" legislation seemed very thoughtcrime-ish at the time of its passing.

Posted by: T. Jeff at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (/Ho8c)

336 More on the Boner sellout. He may even go to Pelosi to get votes since it looks like House conservatives are up in arms. Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 09:10 AM

And where are the high-minded, Constitution-loving "Republicans" willing to tell Mr Chee-To to get his nicotine-stained butt in gear and -- just for once -- put up a fight for something he claims to believe in?

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (yAC3X)

337 What does that mean, EC? Laid off, transferring? Either way, sorry to hear it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (2cS/G)

338 No surprise Vic. He did it a couple other times last year. All the usual Senators crossed the aisle as well.


Like I said ... I'll give the new Congress two weeks. After than, I'm done with the Republican Party. I'll pitch away my vote to those dirty no-good pot-smoking Libertarians, or just save the gas and stay home.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (Oz2Jh)

339 "Obama is now planning an illegal gun control decree."

Okay, first I've heard mention of this. Any details?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (YgRX8)

340 lol @ my fair bat boy

Posted by: T. Jeff at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (/Ho8c)

341 Sorry EC. Amazing how major companies are still laying people off right and left, small businesses the same if not closing completely, and after all that unemployment is decreasing and the economy is growing!

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (u9gzs)

342 Posted by: My Fair Bat Boy at December 03, 2014 09:13 AM

Bravo!

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2014 09:15 AM (yAC3X)

343 Recovery Winter, yay !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2014 09:16 AM (OCcU9)

344 How many times have I told you? Thats Mr. Racist to you, Cob

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2014 09:16 AM (l1zOH)

345 #2 guy just confirmed it. Our entire location has been cancelled.


Holy crap, EC.

How long until the office shuts down?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed typist at December 03, 2014 09:16 AM (M1uf/)

346 What does that mean, EC? Laid off, transferring? Either way, sorry to hear it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2014 09:14 AM (2cS/G)



Everyone in my division is no longer an employee in the very near future. Special projects that are dear to the company will have time and resources to finish and then shut down. Very select few will get a chance to move to the alternate sites in another state and abroad. I don't think I'm going to be one of them.

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:16 AM (GQ8sn)

347 Sorry EC. Prayers for you.

Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2014 09:16 AM (cbfNE)

348 Aw, man, EC! So sorry to hear that.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2014 09:18 AM (ABcz/)

349 Shit, EC.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2014 09:18 AM (YgRX8)

350 Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 08:59 AM (GQ8sn)

Even jobs at Umbrella Corp aren't safe from the ravages of the Obama Economy apparently.

Good luck EC.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 03, 2014 09:18 AM (HDwDg)

351 Interesting family, the Bankheads. Not only was the father the Speaker of the House, but her older sister appears to have married eight times, three different times to one guy, and lived with a woman at one point as well (if the internet actually being coy can be believed). Supposedly, Tallulah's last word was "bourbon".

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 09:18 AM (LISuA)

352 EC that sucks. Sorry to hear that.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2014 09:18 AM (l1zOH)

353 Sorry to hear it EC, I hope you land on your feet.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 03, 2014 09:19 AM (/4AZU)

354 Mornin' Horde.

Re: Lincoln-as-socialist--Turtledove's "Southern Victory" series takes note of that...after the Confederacy's victory (and his resultingly failed Presidency) he winds up traveling as basically a Socialist/Marxist lecturer. You can imagine the repercussions of this down the road...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 03, 2014 09:19 AM (DT3rQ)

355 wow- sorry for the news EC. are you folks being offered a chance to move and keep your jobs?

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 09:19 AM (LISuA)

356 Hump Day. What we really need is a very special Federal holiday called Hemp (rope) Day.

Posted by: L. Post at December 03, 2014 09:19 AM (Wuv+a)

357 Even jobs at Umbrella Corp aren't safe from the ravages of the Obama Economy apparently.



Zombie futures aren't looking so hot right about now.


Wishing Mila would come visit.

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:19 AM (GQ8sn)

358 Ahh never mind got trolled my an old article. The point still stands, but they're just talking about his claims from last years SOTU.

Although let's all look at huffpo's claim here and hold them to it when Obama decides he's not bound by any stinkin holds on his authoritah.

"It was an acknowledgement on the president's part that Congress has little appetite to revisit the issue of gun control, especially in an election year. Instead, any changes to gun policy at this point will likely require executive action. Although Obama's presidential powers only grant him the authority to approve modest reforms, one of the measures signed by the president earlier this month would strengthen background checks for gun purchasers, with a particular focus on mental health."

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2014 09:19 AM (BPMYx)

359 Sorry, man. Been there, it's neither fun nor easy, but after a while it worked out to actually be a good thing for me. Good luck.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2014 09:19 AM (2cS/G)

360 Sorry to hear that EC.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2014 09:20 AM (g1DWB)

361 My new enemy are the critters that voted to keep Boehner as Speaker. I'm certain its a loooong list.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 03, 2014 09:21 AM (XzRw1)

362 Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:19 AM (GQ8sn)

Well sorry to hear about the suckiness. I raise a day drink to you.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 03, 2014 09:22 AM (HDwDg)

363 The "hate crime" legislation seemed very thoughtcrime-ish at the time of its passing.

Worse than that, it was saying that some lives (or at least some murders) were more valuable than others.

If I were murdered today and my body draped with a confederate flag and "f*ck whitey" painted all over it- that would still not be a "hate crime."

Yet if some black or hispanic thug tries to beat the life out of me and I defend myself with lethal force, I will be called a racist, and the National DOJ will "investigate" to see if I just committed a "hate crime."

It's yet more institutionalized racism. Of African or Meso-American decent? You're super-duper special. Of Asian or European decent? "F*ck you."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed typist at December 03, 2014 09:22 AM (M1uf/)

364 I've read all the common ones, of course, but I put them in the context I believe they belong in. Essentially the nation, and the Constitution, were a sick joke being played on every man who believed in freedom. All men are free, except these men, because they're not really men at all.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2014 09:22 AM (2cS/G)

365 Condolences, EC. FWIW, our long term prospects look shaky as well.

Posted by: Republican Majorities at December 03, 2014 09:22 AM (Oz2Jh)

366 Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 03, 2014 09:13 AM (/4AZU)
===================

seriously, that history has to be read in context and you're just playing into the Democrat fucks who want to claim Lincoln as a proto-Progressive. My own sister gives me this ignorant shit all the time, trying to convince me the GOP was good but is now evil. Don't play along (unless you also believe this, in which case have at it).

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 09:23 AM (LISuA)

367 Sorry to hear that, EC.

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2014 09:23 AM (BPMYx)

368 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed typist at December 03, 2014 09:22 AM (M1uf/)

Maybe you needs to run around with a South African Flag draped on your shoulders. Proudly displaying how wonderful the white guilt is that drips from you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2014 09:23 AM (l1zOH)

369 Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 03, 2014 09:21 AM (XzRw1)

Face it, you kcufed up! You trusted us!

Love
John Orange Boner and Mitch Turtle McConnell

Posted by: GOPe at December 03, 2014 09:25 AM (fL/7/)

370 Shout out to my homey EC. Stay strong my brotha'. Been hangin' by a thread myself.

Posted by: The Constitution at December 03, 2014 09:26 AM (Oz2Jh)

371 Maybe you needs to run around with a South African Flag draped on your
shoulders. Proudly displaying how wonderful the white guilt is that
drips from you.


No. Then I'd just be accused of supporting Apartheid. Or selecting "the one African country with a significant white population."

Heck, if I draped myself in the Mexican flag, I'd be told I was guilty of "cultural appropriation."

What the SJWs don't seem to understand is that, if I'm going to suffer the punishment anyway, there's no reason for me *not* to be a racist. The carrot-and-stick only works if both are present.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed typist at December 03, 2014 09:27 AM (M1uf/)

372 Hey, EC, I guess I missed it previously- what is it that you do? And what region are you in?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed typist at December 03, 2014 09:28 AM (M1uf/)

373 At least you got a formal announcement EC. I just kept going along and ... poof ... suddenly realized I was dead.


Not even sure when it happened. M. Knight even thinks that shit is crazy.

Posted by: The Republic at December 03, 2014 09:29 AM (Oz2Jh)

374 Hey, EC, I guess I missed it previously- what is it that you do? And what region are you in?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed typist at December 03, 2014 09:28 AM (M1uf/)



I'm a scientist with Umbrella Corporation in NC.

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:30 AM (GQ8sn)

375 Sorry to hear, EC. That sucks.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2014 09:30 AM (zF6Iw)

376 Sorry to hear it EC, best wishes for you & yours.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2014 09:31 AM (OCcU9)

377 Well, I don't feel so bad for coming back to my desk instead of standing outside the auditorium trying to hear what's happening inside. I'm sitting down at least.

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:32 AM (GQ8sn)

378
What the SJWs don't seem to understand is that, if I'm going to suffer the punishment anyway, there's no reason for me *not* to be a racist. The carrot-and-stick only works if both are present.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed typist at December 03, 2014 09:27 AM (M1uf/

Allen, I don't care for carrots, guess I'm f*cked like you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2014 09:32 AM (l1zOH)

379 everybody knows the dump is up. Right?

Posted by: Vic at December 03, 2014 09:33 AM (u9gzs)

380
I'm a scientist with Umbrella Corporation in NC.

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:30 AM (GQ8sn

I'm a mad scientist with F*ck You Corporation in NC.

FIFY

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2014 09:33 AM (l1zOH)

381 Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:30 AM (GQ8sn)

Good luck. It tough out there, although you had more lab experience than I did, so you might have an easier go out at it.

I know the Other Umbrella Corps near me are hiring more experienced researchers.

If you don't mind driving over some hippie protestors on your way into work.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 03, 2014 09:33 AM (HDwDg)

382 I'm a scientist with Umbrella Corporation in NC.

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:30 AM (GQ8sn)


I'm going to assume that that means you're in some part of the biomedical industry.

Obamacare sure stuck a knife in the neck of that industry.

Sorry, EC.


See. This is the sort of thing Orange Worm and TurtleBoy could be working on-

helping more Americans work and have jobs.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 03, 2014 09:34 AM (KBvAm)

383 I don't believe the GOP is evil in the way a moonbat would, but they have at the very least become enablers of evil by being lying, spineless democrat-lite squishes.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2014 09:36 AM (OCcU9)

384 I'm going to assume that that means you're in some part of the biomedical industry.

Obamacare sure stuck a knife in the neck of that industry.



I'm in pharma R&D.


The grand irony is that our company had a direct involvement with o-care. We were part of PhRMA that whored ourselves to pimp o-care in return for a place at the table with our goods. A lot of dems in our field for some reason. I hope they choke on their vomit.

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:37 AM (GQ8sn)

385 EC
That sux.

Good luck, and prayers that it works out.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 03, 2014 09:38 AM (wPA9Q)

386 Very sorry to hear about that, EC. Best wishes and many blessings.

Posted by: T. Jeff at December 03, 2014 09:39 AM (/Ho8c)

387 Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:37 AM (GQ8sn)

There was a part of PhRMA that didn't whore itself out for a place at the table?

Boy are Americans really going to be pissed when they find out that the only thing keeping new drugs in production was the price dumping to the US.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 03, 2014 09:41 AM (HDwDg)

388 88 Neighbor just came over to get the keys to my car. Grandson has my truck, neighbor has been "borrowing" the car morning and afternoon for two weeks because she took her car to a fly-by-night repair outfit. So I sit with no vehicle at all. again.

Vic- Your problem is simple - your vehicles [strike]are [/strike] appear to be simply too reliable. I am confident that if you dig around in them a little, you will find mysterious intermittent problems that 'randomly' prevent them from starting. Hint: I think it's a periodically loose coil wire on the car, and a fuel-pump fuse that falls out by itself on the
truck. Maybe it's just cold weather/ hot weather/ humidity that causes these problems cause they DO go away by themselves later in the day....if the vehicle sits in your driveway. It's a mystery why they won't start some mornings when someone comes to borrow them. Too bad you don't have the money to have a shop spend unknown hours tracking down those problems. Lucky you, being retired and all, can just wait till they decide to start.

Sincerely,

An experienced car-loaner.

Posted by: Who Me? at December 03, 2014 09:41 AM (a5F9g)

389 Ocare is the end of pretty much every aspect of the medical care industry as it has been known.

I'm very sorry for you and others like you, EC, but confess I don't have much sympathy for those reaping the logical harvest of the votes sown for the Communist in Chief.

Posted by: T. Jeff at December 03, 2014 09:42 AM (/Ho8c)

390 There was a part of PhRMA that didn't whore itself out for a place at the table?


It was a horrible, self-serving deal.

Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:44 AM (GQ8sn)

391 Posted by: EC at December 03, 2014 09:44 AM (GQ8sn)

most of the deals with the devil government are.

Dear god, I just realized we're probably going to have to choose between corportist and corportist light in 2016. We're boned.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 03, 2014 09:47 AM (HDwDg)

392 391
Dear god, I just realized we're probably going to have to choose between corportist and corportist light in 2016. We're boned.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 03, 2014 09:47 AM (HDwDg)



I'm not seeing any "light" at this point.

And sorry, EC.

Posted by: rickl at December 03, 2014 10:01 AM (zoehZ)

393 366 Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 09:23 AM (LISuA)

I am trained in history thanks, in context his stuff speaks to the notion of crony capitalism at a minimum and frankly a larger role of the government in the common affairs of man than I'm comfy with.

Am I saying he and Marx were pen pals?

Nope, I am saying he has more in common with Clinton than Reagan.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 03, 2014 10:09 AM (/4AZU)

394 Nope, I am saying he has more in common with Clinton than Reagan.


OK: Evidence?

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 11:38 AM (LISuA)

395 394 Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 11:38 AM (LISuA)

Dear lord I've gone over this here several times.

The "trans-continental" railroads were hotbeds of graft, corruption, and kickbacks and probably the second major abuse of Eminent Domain after the canal system.

Lincoln was a fan of "the American System", the American System was the idea that the community chest should and would be used for "public works" and overt kickbacks.

Alexander Hamilton(like Lincoln on the whole a personal hero of mine) was enraged by British Mercantilism so long as he was on the paying side of the equation, once in a position to benefit from the system he was in favor of importing the mechanism to the United States.

Lincoln was a Whig to his core, and being a Whig meant he valued "public works", central banks, and the games the banks play on the back of the common man to "protect the economy."

Lincoln was a "3d way" guy in the sense he saw a HUGE role for the Government as "will of the people" in regulating and controlling where private business would and could go.

You can trace a straight line from his abuses of power to Obama's flouting of the law.

Lincoln started his administration decrying that he could do ANYTHING outside of congressional power to stop slavery(and understand I support wholeheartedly the revulsion at slavery the abolitionists engendered) and voila like magic just 4 short years later he could do so by edict as "commander in chief" without redress to jury....

America's dictatorial Presidents were "Jackson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, and Obama."

Each of those cocksuckers decided "I am the state."

I happen to greatly admire three of the six, and hate deeply 3 of the six.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 03, 2014 11:57 AM (/4AZU)

396 So, no evidence. Just rants.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 12:34 PM (LISuA)

397 396 Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2014 12:34 PM (LISuA)

Oh horse****.

I'm not re-writing my goddamned 30,000 words explaining his graft and corruption as a lawyer for, and political ally of the railroads MTF.

The American System was a "thing" and it was part and parcel of the Whig platform for ~30 years openly and a subtle cornerstone of the Federalists until it slowly merged in the "National Republican Party" which together with the Anti-Masonic party morphed into the Whigs.

The Whigs
http://tinyurl.com/4feu3e

The American System

http://tinyurl.com/dxcht8

Abe Lincoln was the prototype of the Chicago Machine politician....

Chicago electioneering is part of what got him the nod to run in 1860.

The American system liked high tariffs leading to higher consumer prices, high public land prices "for more revenue", the hearty support of "the Bank of the United States" (which shoehorned state economies into a game of thrones style winner takes all patronism) and for Abe the kicker "internal improvements" that seldom worked as advertised were always less efficient than private ventures and were a graft machine par excellence....

The Canadians used parts of the American system(with all the baggage) in their National Policy Plan of the 1870s.

I am saying he has a lot more in common with Beijing Billy than he does with Marx or Engels but the fact is he was a huge proponent of concentration of power, and by mid war he saw himself as the arbiter of Federal power period.

You can argue he HAD to feel this way b/c "by golly the ACW" you can argue that he was somehow "uniquely qualified like a Lawyerly rather than Martial Cincinnatus" and only used his ill-gotten by Constitutional parameters powers for good but what is silly to argue is his love for genuine free markets or his reticence at the use of wide power.

Lincoln had no grief with the idea that the people should "have to pay more" for their goods because favored businessmen needed "protected" and the feds should hand out the community chest on graft ridden "Rube Goldberg Works."

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 03, 2014 01:09 PM (/4AZU)

398 Ummm... it's Thursday.

Posted by: Waht? at December 04, 2014 06:27 AM (h0T3E)

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