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Surprise!
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 01, 2014 02:41 PM (Bn6aD) Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 01, 2014 02:41 PM (HSmrB) 3
Trickle up misery Posted by: Justamom's stealing hubby's pad at December 01, 2014 02:41 PM (Sptt8) 4
Good freaking lord, they can't even do eugenics properly.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 02:42 PM (HDwDg) 5
By the way, academic establishment:
I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO. And for that I sit in exile. I regret nothing. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 02:42 PM (HDwDg) 6
This is what communists are good at, killing people. We are well on our way to being a banana republic.
Posted by: ALH at December 01, 2014 02:44 PM (yAPdC) 7
I thought the clip would be the SCOAMTT said about rewarding friends and punishing enemies. So preznitential. Posted by: Justamom's stealing hubby's pad at December 01, 2014 02:44 PM (Sptt8) 8
December 04, 2009
We've got 5 years to save world says Australia's chief scientist Professor Penny Sackett THE planet has just five years to avoid disastrous global warming, says the Federal Government's chief scientist. Prof Penny Sackett yesterday urged all Australians to reduce their carbon footprint. ... sorry I'm late. Posted by: SMOD at December 01, 2014 02:44 PM (e8kgV) 9
I wonder which sorts of medical care people are putting off?
Dentistry and psychiatry, maybe? Not going in for bronchial or flu-like maladies? Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 02:44 PM (3ZtZW) 10
If people are putting of medical care -- what are they doing about dental care?
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 02:45 PM (ZPrif) 11
It's always been about redistributing wealth.
Posted by: Garrett at December 01, 2014 02:45 PM (a7LQR) 12
"Guess I won't have that mole looked at this month"?
Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 02:45 PM (3ZtZW) 13
Who could POSSIBLY have forseen this? I mean, aside from anyone and everyone who warned about this and was called either a racist or a monster.
Phuck Obama and the Dems, I hope they have lost the vote for a generation or more over this. They let the mask slip and shatter on the floor, hopefully everyone got a good, long look at what Progressives really are. Posted by: acethepug at December 01, 2014 02:45 PM (37xk6) 14
If you like your cancer, you can keep your cancer.
Posted by: Garrett at December 01, 2014 02:46 PM (a7LQR) 15
It’s a remarkable shift: after Obamacare’s redistribution of wealth, the middle class is actually delaying medical care due to high costs at a higher rate than the poorest section of the country, which is highly subsidized by taxpayers.
Feature, not bug. Posted by: toby928(C) at December 01, 2014 02:46 PM (rwI+c) Posted by: Thomas Friedman at December 01, 2014 02:46 PM (s9AKD) 17
My underlying condition has been getting worse since 2008, my Wannaownagunosis.
I have been self-treating with M1911 and 230 grains, AR15 in 55 grains, and .308 in 168 grains. Posted by: self-treater at December 01, 2014 02:46 PM (fBW52) 18
Who's laughing now?
Posted by: Trained Witchdoctor at December 01, 2014 02:46 PM (AvP4a) 19
At some point the Kulaks have had enough health care.
Posted by: Barky I Numbnuts at December 01, 2014 02:47 PM (8ZskC) 20
>>>> Obama came into office to take money from groups that didn't vote for him and give it to groups that voted for him
He's punishing everyone who didnt vote for him because we disappointed him so much or something. Posted by: L, elle at December 01, 2014 02:47 PM (Aivl/) 21
So is the media covering this story? No you say? I guess they're too busy covering a GOP staffer who insulted the obama girls...
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 01, 2014 02:47 PM (Bn6aD) 22
So the Rich and the Poors get medical care, while the middle class gets screwed.
It's not an accident that the Democrat coalition is basically the Rich and the Poors -- while the white middle class votes Republican. What's Obama's governing philosophy again? Punish your Enemies and Reward your Friends. Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 02:47 PM (ZPrif) Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 01, 2014 02:47 PM (/4AZU) 24
Obama came into office to take money from groups that didn't vote for him and give it to groups that voted for him.
All national elections boil down to this. Legalized theivery. Taking from Peter, for Paul. That is the sole reason the national socialist government even exists in 2014, the federal government of the Constitution having long since hit the waste basket of history. Posted by: Banana Republic at December 01, 2014 02:48 PM (hKyl0) 25
Trickle-up poverty.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2014 02:48 PM (rlESj) Posted by: Y-not on the phone at December 01, 2014 02:48 PM (9BRsg) 27
What..... cant afford federally mandated insurance.???? Cant afford the IRS (its a tax) penalties for NOT having insurance???? Why Ive got just the single payer solution right here. Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2014 02:48 PM (NaV4z) 28
JT Marlin upgrades National Shaman Registry Corp. to STRONG BUY.
Posted by: JT Marlin at December 01, 2014 02:48 PM (8ZskC) 29
>>>>This is what communists are good at, killing people.
Yeah. The trick here is targetting it correctly. Traditionally you'd just set up a war and rake in everybody what doesn't cooperate, but I think that'd tend to get too many of their own. Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 02:48 PM (3ZtZW) 30
And does anyone know what's going to happen to the middle class by not going to the doctor so often?
A healthier middle class. Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 02:48 PM (zexrO) 31
If the races were reversed, the left would going ballistic over this, accusing the president of RACIAL GENOCIDE!!1!!!1!
Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2014 02:48 PM (K4YiS) 32
Barky sucks.
Posted by: Killerdog at December 01, 2014 02:49 PM (u/ZMh) 33
So much for bending the cost curve.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at December 01, 2014 02:49 PM (OWjjx) Posted by: John McCain at December 01, 2014 02:49 PM (LoIJo) 35
Go long on Red Pills.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 01, 2014 02:49 PM (rwI+c) 36
David Burge @iowahawkblog
Issues (0) People (0) Groups (0) http://www.msnbc.com/search/zemir%20begic Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 02:49 PM (ZPrif) 37
And does anyone know what's going to happen to the middle class by not going to the doctor so often?
A healthier middle class. Also, millions of new jobs. Posted by: Debbie Wassermouth-Shithead at December 01, 2014 02:49 PM (8ZskC) 38
33 So much for bending the cost curve.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at December 01, 2014 02:49 PM (OWjjx) Something's getting bent (over) for sure, but it ain't the cost curve. Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2014 02:50 PM (rlESj) Posted by: Woody Woodchipper at December 01, 2014 02:50 PM (UVfht) 40
This is going to piss off the doctors. Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2014 02:50 PM (1Y+hH) 41
And so he seeks to make us all slaves and property of the almighty State, beholden to our government for food, medicine, and all the necessities of life, and he expects us to all thank him. This president thinks he's Pharaoh.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 01, 2014 02:50 PM (iIzG7) 42
Who could have foreseen that a community organizer who spend his life rabble rousing and trying to force others to pay for "the poor", a guy who partners with a shakedown artist like Al Sharpton, would institute a plan that steals from the middle class to subsidize "the poor"?
Obama is just Sharpton with a better delivery. He's nothing but a race hustler. Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2014 02:50 PM (g1DWB) 43
Let's just skip the euphemisms and make it official:
Starting now: - If you are black or an illegal immigrant, health care is FREE for you. - If you are "white" or otherwise privileged, the cost of your health care is calibrated to be exactly 110% of the amount you can afford. So: go die. Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2014 02:50 PM (K4YiS) Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 02:51 PM (3ZtZW) Posted by: EC at December 01, 2014 02:51 PM (GQ8sn) 46
41 And so he seeks to make us all slaves and property of the almighty State, beholden to our government for food, medicine, and all the necessities of life, and he expects us to all thank him. This president thinks he's Pharaoh.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 01, 2014 02:50 PM (iIzG7) The Pharaoh didn't have a phone, so he can suck it! Posted by: King Barry at December 01, 2014 02:51 PM (rlESj) 47
Communism is most efficient with a rapidly declining population
Posted by: Iosif Stalin at December 01, 2014 02:51 PM (LoIJo) 48
oh, please, you know the MSM will be more than happy to blame the doctors, the hospitals, and the insurance companies. Nothing wrong with your health care premiums and deductibles going up, it makes consumers of health care more cost conscious.
Posted by: mallfly at December 01, 2014 02:51 PM (bJm7W) 49
Those 3000% premium reductions can't come soon enough.
Posted by: Garrett at December 01, 2014 02:51 PM (a7LQR) 50
Allen G.
Came up with SCOAMF & changed to SCOAMT. He's got it right. I still don't get why people voted for the empty suit, despite the few times he told the truth. Bankrupt coal plants, under his plan energy prices would necessarily skyrocket & what did he say about people clinging to God & guns. Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 02:51 PM (sj3Ax) 51
You lie!
Posted by: Joe Wilson, R-SC at December 01, 2014 02:51 PM (jfUIE) 52
Of course this is the outcome. Anyone and everyone that is not a liberal jackass in healthcare knew this. Hey how do ya like "Free Lunch"? Tastes like shit doesn't it?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 01, 2014 02:52 PM (Zmw74) Posted by: ALH at December 01, 2014 02:52 PM (yAPdC) 54
Obama is just Sharpton with a better delivery.
Posted by: JackStraw I WANT TO SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND?? Posted by: Al Sharptobama at December 01, 2014 02:52 PM (K4YiS) 55
Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 02:52 PM (M1uf/) Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 01, 2014 02:52 PM (iIzG7) 57
And when was the last time a middle-class person filled one of my divots???
Posted by: King Putt at December 01, 2014 02:52 PM (LoIJo) 58
Is this the plan to get the middle class to support "single payer"?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 01, 2014 02:52 PM (W5DcG) 59
If you want to see an MRI machine there will be a museum.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2014 02:52 PM (8ZskC) 60
So is the media covering this story? No you say? I guess they're too busy covering a GOP staffer who insulted the obama girls...
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! Would you believe, local crime story? Posted by: Mindless bitch at the Wash post at December 01, 2014 02:53 PM (Spluw) Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at December 01, 2014 02:53 PM (evdj2) 62
Trsblke
Do you know baby's sex? Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 02:53 PM (sj3Ax) 63
At least we stopped losing five hundred billion jobs a week!!!
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 01, 2014 02:53 PM (ttJ2z) 64
My Daughter is one of them. Can't afford health care. None of the plans are affordable. At this point She pays for Her own Doctor visits..... Doesn't really have that much so if a
catastrophic" event were to happen she will be at their mercy... Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 01, 2014 02:53 PM (Bn6aD) Posted by: Anderson Cooper at December 01, 2014 02:53 PM (LoIJo) Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 01, 2014 02:53 PM (iIzG7) Posted by: Lizzy at December 01, 2014 02:53 PM (ABcz/) 68
4 Good freaking lord, they can't even do eugenics properly.
Posted by: tsrblk Depends on who's defining "properly." Exterminate the fit -- eliminate the survival gap! Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2014 02:53 PM (K4YiS) 69
42 Obama is just Sharpton with a better delivery.---ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Posted by: Banana Republic at December 01, 2014 02:54 PM (hKyl0) 70
Democrat's wrath is constantly descending on the rich and landing on the middle class.
Posted by: X at December 01, 2014 02:54 PM (KHo8t) 71
14 If you like your cancer, you can keep your cancer.
Posted by: Garrett Subsidized threadwinner! Posted by: zombie at December 01, 2014 02:54 PM (K4YiS) Posted by: Borders Language Culture at December 01, 2014 02:54 PM (XzRw1) 73
Have I ever told you the one about "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan"?
Posted by: Shecky Soetoro at December 01, 2014 02:54 PM (LoIJo) 74
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I thought the clip would be the SCOAMTT said about rewarding friends and punishing enemies. So preznitential. Not that I had much hope to begin with considering that he's a Socialist, but the minute Ear Leader referred to those who didn't vote for him as "his enemies" I knew all hope was lost. Posted by: Citizen X at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (7ObY1) 75
The left wants people to die.They have said so openly.
Posted by: steevy at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (v5UtH) 76
Back in the ole 20th century it was the "defectives" what were exterminated first, then the dissident, then selected groups both ethnic and social/religious, if you lump em all together in broad outline.
The 21st is shaping up to reverse the sequence, I guess. Records will be broken, Comrades! Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (3ZtZW) 77
Good freaking lord, they can't even do eugenics properly.
The Ruling Class will always need helots. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (8ZskC) Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (sj3Ax) Posted by: --- at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (MMC8r) 80
Well, in a small way, that's happened in my family. I haven't seen the eye doctor in years. We've already hit the lowered FSA max for the year (again), and thus I am delaying that appointment until next year (again) when hopefully we have enough spare FSA funds to be able to pay for the items. It may seem small, but that tax break really makes a few stretch items become affordable.
On a more serious note, my father-in-law has been avoiding seeing the doctor due to the expense for pain and unexplained bruising in his upper leg that has been slowly moving. This despite his half-brother having a leg amputated due to blood clots a few years ago. Needless to say, Mrs. SoCon and I are dreading that phone call that we know might occur sometime sooner rather than later. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (+/C3g) 81
I get to give Christian healthcare ministries the first real test thanks to this arm. But so far I'm loving my choice to drop "regular" health insurance.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (M1uf/) 82
What could be better than Government run healthcare???
Posted by: VA Adminstrator at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (LoIJo) Posted by: Sarah Palin at December 01, 2014 02:55 PM (XzRw1) 84
on the other hand, I hear Hillary has made a very good deal for a hip replacement with Caterpiller.
Posted by: mallfly at December 01, 2014 02:56 PM (bJm7W) 85
Gallup misspelled bourgeois as "middle class", they'll need some remedial time in the camps for introspection and denouncing their own.
Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2014 02:56 PM (OSgHz) 86
The kicker? A majority of the middle class would nevertheless vote for the same shit tomorrow, if an election were held.
Posted by: Banana Republic at December 01, 2014 02:56 PM (hKyl0) 87
...and we keep paying our taxes like the fucking rubes that we are.
Posted by: Garrett at December 01, 2014 02:56 PM (a7LQR) 88
I put off all medical expenses until absolutely necessary. I had to have teeth extracted simply because the agony was unbearable, and the client (a clinic which does oral surgery) said, "Okay, you need to get in the chair."
Some folks are truly decent when your chips are down. Democrats, not so much. Posted by: Null at December 01, 2014 02:56 PM (xjpRj) 89
The intent is to make health care unaffordable for the middle class so they demand single payer.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 02:56 PM (ZPrif) Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 02:56 PM (ZKzrr) 91
What a revoltin' development this is! Nobody coulda predicted this!
Posted by: Chester A. Riley at December 01, 2014 02:56 PM (4+IgA) 92
44 **middle finger**
"...and the middle class" Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 02:51 PM (3ZtZW What is a half breed Urologist for $200 Bigby? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 02:57 PM (l1zOH) Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at December 01, 2014 02:57 PM (evdj2) 94
If the middle-class is looking for some relief on this, they had better not wait for the cavalry to arrive
Posted by: Ambassador Stephens at December 01, 2014 02:57 PM (LoIJo) 95
Seriously, though I think this is the first generation of American's to have worse teeth than their parents.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 02:58 PM (ZPrif) 96
Not that we should trust the GOP or anything, but it is very possible that in 2016, we will see a complete reversal of political fortune with a GOP president coming into power with a filibuster proof senate. The Obama era has decimated the middle class which is the biggest voting block. We'll see if the GOP can capitalize. I for one am optimistic, and I'm optimistic that Obamacare will be dismantled. I'm not sure what will take its place, but I hope it will be something more conservative and market-oriented.
Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 02:58 PM (gmeXX) 97
Fuck Obama
Posted by: Lauren at December 01, 2014 02:58 PM (nhWB9) 98
This is me. I am this person. Do I even count in this country anymore? I don't even feel like making a joke anymore.
Posted by: Dick "I'm a Dick" Durbin at December 01, 2014 02:58 PM (9ng2u) 99
"put off seeking medical treatment ... due to high costs." Harsh as it sounds, the only way we will ever get reasonably priced health care is for more of us to be parsimonious in seeking it. Insurance distorts the price signals, and leads to overuse of the health care system. As long as people go to the doctor over every little sniffle, we'll continue to see ridiculously high doctor fees.
My GP charges $800 for the routine annual checkup! A few months ago, I went to an immediate-care clinic for an obviously infected animal bite. In a visit lasting less than one minute, the doctor merely looked at it (did not touch or test,) prescribed antibiotic, and billed me $206! The biggest problem in health care today is price inflation at the provider. Posted by: gp at December 01, 2014 02:58 PM (mk9aG) 100
This is going to piss off the doctors.
Only the ones who can't retire early. ............ My doc is retiring as of the end of the year.. he's younger than me! Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 01, 2014 02:58 PM (4+IgA) Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 01, 2014 02:58 PM (XzRw1) 102
Charles Barkley to be charged with rape in 5,4,3,2,
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 01, 2014 02:58 PM (R8hU8) 103
This is going to piss off the doctors.
They knew this long ago. The only ones who don't care are "Staff" DRs in Hospitals Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 01, 2014 02:58 PM (Zmw74) Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2014 02:59 PM (g1DWB) 105
I pay an extra $924 a year now thanks to Obamacare. You're welcome, freeloaders
Posted by: brak at December 01, 2014 02:59 PM (Tj+s6) 106
Deductibles and out of pocket costs, what the hell do those mean?
I have pretty decent insurance and when I picked up my one prescription last week, the pharmacist told me it would be cheaper if I used the store's pharmacy card rather than my insurance. When I say cheaper, I mean it was almost exactly half the cost. Needless to say, I went with that option. I know, I know anecdata but still. It made me wonder a. just how much of a subsidy those with insurance are paying to those on Medicaid, etc. and ii. just how much of a sucker I am for still working and striving and trying (badly) to take care of myself. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at December 01, 2014 02:59 PM (mf5HN) 107
I go to the doctor for one reason. To get my ibuprophen 800 perscription re-filled. He always asks when the last time I had a full physical exam. I tell him six months. Always.
They're doctors, people. Their livelyhood depends on finding something wrong with you. And they WILL find something wrong with you. The only time I actually go to a doctor for treatment is when something bad (and, no, not the flu, or a cold, or a headache, etc.) is happening. Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 02:59 PM (zexrO) 108
The object wasn't to loot the middle class. The object was to destroy the health care system so the government can take over.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2014 02:59 PM (u9gzs) 109
>>>but it is very possible that in 2016, we will see a complete reversal of political fortune with a GOP president coming into power with a filibuster proof senate.
Threadwinner because *snort* bwahahaha Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 02:59 PM (3ZtZW) 110
Yes, so-called single payer is the end game. Destroying the economy, country and lives are just a bonus. By the by, SCOAMTT. Tyrant Traitor. IMHO Posted by: Justamom's stealing hubby's pad at December 01, 2014 02:59 PM (Sptt8) Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:00 PM (sWgE+) 112
Remember how the media treated Joe after his dissent.
Posted by: redenzo at December 01, 2014 03:00 PM (WCnJW) 113
If the middle class die, they die
Posted by: Ivan Drago Suzlberger at December 01, 2014 03:00 PM (LoIJo) Posted by: Old Woman shouting at a Party Official from a transit camp at December 01, 2014 03:00 PM (l3vZN) 115
@8 December 04, 2009
We've got 5 years to save world says Australia's chief scientist Professor Penny Sackett THE planet has just five years to avoid disastrous global warming, says the Federal Government's chief scientist. Prof Penny Sackett yesterday urged all Australians to reduce their carbon footprint. ... sorry I'm late. ----------------- Someone (Trump, maybe) should publicly call out people who do this, and very publicly make them a bet. If civilization has not come crashing down due to climate change at the end of the period specified, then the person who made the announcement will donate a large chunk of money to the charity of Trump's choice. And vice versa if civilization is suddenly in bad shape due to climate change. Publicly pressure the person (which Trump is good at) in public until they either accept the bet or renounce their claim. And then keep the bet in the public eye for the duration. I bet it would shut a lot of these alarmists up... Posted by: junior at December 01, 2014 03:00 PM (UWFpX) 116
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 02:56 PM (ZKzrr
Or go concierge. Which always struck a poor cord with me too. "Want to keep seeing me? Then fork over a big fat check." The setup with Obamacare almost encourages that level of extortion. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 03:00 PM (HDwDg) 117
The 21st is shaping up to reverse the sequence, I guess.
They're trying to get the "defectives" in utero (and they concentrate on black neighborhoods...huh). Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:01 PM (ZKzrr) 118
"put off seeking medical treatment ... due to high costs." Harsh as it sounds, the only way we will ever get reasonably priced health care is for more of us to be parsimonious in seeking it. Insurance distorts the price signals, and leads to overuse of the health care system. As long as people go to the doctor over every little sniffle, we'll continue to see ridiculously high doctor fees.
Posted by: gp That only works if most or all health care seekers are not in possession of things that tend to subsidize such practices. Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2014 03:01 PM (Spluw) 119
We'll see if the GOP can capitalize.
I'm doubtful. Besides which, we are still just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Rooting for the home team while the stadium burns. Darth Math still says we're boned. Posted by: toby928(C) at December 01, 2014 03:01 PM (rwI+c) 120
If you want to see an MRI machine there will be a museum.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 01, 2014 02:52 PM (8ZskC) Or a veterinary hospital. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 01, 2014 03:01 PM (W5DcG) 121
On the bright side, 20 million of (formerly) illegal aliens will soon be receiving health care, mostly at public expense. So the amount of actual health care being provided will be going up, even if it means you personally are receiving less but paying more. So everybody is happy about that, right?
Posted by: George Orwell at December 01, 2014 03:01 PM (1BQGO) 122
Carol,
I didn't come up with SCOAMF. I just adopted it as something that bore repeating, and was always on topic. I changed it to SCOAMT after Benghazi. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 03:01 PM (M1uf/) 123
I'd happily shop at a grocery store that loudly refused to accept EBT cards.
Posted by: X at December 01, 2014 03:01 PM (KHo8t) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2014 03:01 PM (OCcU9) 125
I'm still stuck trying to find a reply to the 'no friends and pointless life' remark that struck me so deeply.
at the moment, I'm mostly numb from food overdose, but having a pointless life I see no need to go to the doctor. Why would I? If only I could find enough rage to take a few liberals with me when I go, but no, what what be the point? The dilemma is paralyzing. Posted by: Fredericks of Hodunk, we're on the map at December 01, 2014 03:02 PM (0mp5c) 126
Why aren't the Native Americans building hospitals?
...or at least adding them onto their Casinos? They could be making heap big serious wampum. Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2014 03:02 PM (3TkfW) 127
>> I go to the doctor for one reason. To get my ibuprophen 800 perscription re-filled.
Why do you do that? Posted by: Aviator at December 01, 2014 03:02 PM (3rrMW) 128
None of this is surprising. He was an anti-American, commie bastard from the get go
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2014 03:02 PM (1Jaio) 129
I'd happily shop at a grocery store that loudly refused to accept EBT cards.
- Are they legally allowed to do that? Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 03:02 PM (ZPrif) 130
It appears the insurance plans of the entire middle-class were taken for a midnight stroll through Fort Marcy Park
Posted by: Vince Foster at December 01, 2014 03:03 PM (LoIJo) 131
BTW when Obamacare was being 'debated' and voted on, many here madesolemnstatements that if others coerced into paying for their medical care they would forgoe that care.
I remember Seamus laughing at the idea, saying O sure when you have cancer you'll just sit tight. Right, sure you will. Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 03:03 PM (3ZtZW) 132
I'd happily shop at a grocery store that loudly refused to accept EBT cards.
---- You think the rich liberals shop at grocery stores that have a lot of EBT customers, like Trader Joe's. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:03 PM (gmeXX) 133
Jack Straw,
That's true, he's just like Sharpton & also looks older than he is. Sharpton looks like hell. Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:03 PM (sj3Ax) 134
The fact that someone from the Free Shit Army that sits on their ass will get better quality health insurance than the guy that has a good paying job and busts his ass every day is incredibly disgusting.
A husband and wife could together make over six figures but be forced to forego health care, but the welfare queen on Medicaid in the projects has the luxury to take her kids to the doctor every time they get a sniffle. Conservatives really need to bust out the populism more often. Posted by: McAdams at December 01, 2014 03:03 PM (4a2Pr) 135
As long as someone provides free condoms and birth patrol, I'm good with it.
Posted by: Bruce at December 01, 2014 03:04 PM (8ikIW) 136
I'd happily shop at a grocery store that loudly refused to accept EBT cards. - Are they legally allowed to do that?
Posted by: Costanza Defense The next crux point will be when health care providers are forced to take medicrap. Don't believe me? look North to Canada. Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2014 03:04 PM (Spluw) 137
Feh. Who cares?
We're one EBT system failure from complete anarchy. I suggest spending any extra sheckles on armament and ammo. Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 01, 2014 03:04 PM (XzRw1) 138
You ain't got 'cause someone took from you. Who did? Democrats!
Posted by: toby928(C) rants Populist at December 01, 2014 03:04 PM (rwI+c) 139
Obama is just Sharpton with a better delivery. He's nothing but a race hustler.
Posted by: JackStraw Calypso Louis with a better delivery is more like it, got to get more Muslim vibe in there. Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2014 03:04 PM (1Y+hH) 140
This administration would never do anything to harm the American people for purely political motives
Posted by: Agent Terry at December 01, 2014 03:04 PM (LoIJo) 141
Conservatives really need to bust out the populism more often.
---- Second look at Santorum? I kid, but it was his populism that made him appealing to me in that patethic 2012 field against Obama. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:05 PM (gmeXX) Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2014 03:06 PM (3TkfW) Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 03:06 PM (M1uf/) 144
Hey, if we hugely increase the demand for something suddenly, I tell you, the price will plummet!
Trust me, I'm an economist! Posted by: Jon Gruber at December 01, 2014 03:07 PM (HBAcW) 145
A husband and wife could together make over six figures but be forced to forego health care, but the welfare queen on Medicaid in the projects has the luxury to take her kids to the doctor every time they get a sniffle.
In a sane world, this would be the death knoll for the welfare state. Sadly, "sane world" and "welfare state" tend not to go together. Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 01, 2014 03:07 PM (DT3rQ) 146
Why do you do that?
Posted by: Aviator at December 01, 2014 03:02 PM (3rrMW) -------------------------------------- Ibuprophen 800 is an excellent anti-inflammatory drug. I'm not a big fan of all the antibiotics that are being handed out like candy. Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 03:07 PM (zexrO) 147
Why would they refuse EBT? It's a revenue stream for many retailers, including the evvvvvvvviiiiiilllll Walmart. As long as the stupid Quest (online EBT) system doesn't crap out.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2014 03:08 PM (Spluw) 148
I need an emotional support piggie.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 01, 2014 03:08 PM (W5DcG) Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 03:08 PM (3ZtZW) 150
I'm glad the riot inciter was arrested. Now how about arrests for perjury? Know about the poor man hammered to death by the juveniles? Gateway Pundit has a video with the narrator saying the perps were yelling kill white people kill the white guy. Thanks, everyone who perpetuates the hands up lie. That is the street my dad and grandma lived on. Posted by: Justamom's stealing hubby's pad at December 01, 2014 03:08 PM (Sptt8) 151
Time for amnesty!
Posted by: ANNOYING GUY WHO COULDN'T OPEN COMMENTS AT WORK at December 01, 2014 03:08 PM (q177U) 152
Conservatives really need to bust out the populism more often.
A "conservative populist" party would lay waste to both existing parties. Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 01, 2014 03:09 PM (DT3rQ) 153
Suck it whitey
Posted by: Reverend Wright at December 01, 2014 03:09 PM (LoIJo) 154
I'm doubling down on red and blue pills cuz Obama in a lab coat told me to.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 01, 2014 03:09 PM (oDCMR) 155
I need an emotional support piggie.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr I may be open to an offer. Check out the preceeding thread. Posted by: Rosie at December 01, 2014 03:09 PM (Spluw) 156
A husband and wife could together make over six figures but be forced to forego health care,
Ask me how I know this to be true! Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 03:09 PM (M1uf/) 157
Wha?
14 If you like your cancer, you can keep your cancer. Posted by: Garrett at December 01, 2014 02:46 PM (a7LQR Too Funny!! Posted by: Regular Guy at December 01, 2014 03:09 PM (XYKz+) 158
Hands off my stuff!
Posted by: toby928(C) rants Populist at December 01, 2014 03:10 PM (rwI+c) 159
President Obama's approval rating has dipped below 40 percent on the heels of his controversial decision to take executive action on immigration, according to Tuesday poll.
Some 54 percent of Americans surveyed by Quinnipiac University disapprove of the president, while 39 percent approve. That's approaching the president's all-time low of 38 percent approval in December 2013, during the botched HealthCare.gov rollout and anger over revelations about National Security Agency surveillance. The president's numbers are underwater with every party, gender, or age group other than Democrats and voters under 30 years old. A majority of voters say they're happy Republicans seized control of the U.S. Senate, and a plurality say any resulting gridlock would be the president's fault. Posted by: SMOD at December 01, 2014 03:10 PM (e8kgV) 160
I'm still stuck trying to find a reply to the 'no friends and pointless life' remark that struck me so deeply.
*shoves apple pie through USB* and ii. just how much of a sucker I am for still working and striving and trying (badly) to take care of myself. I deeply regret going to math camp the summer I was 14 instead of being an indiscriminate whore. Bad choices, man. I made bad choices. Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:10 PM (ZKzrr) Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:10 PM (C278+) 162
A "conservative populist" party would lay waste to both existing parties.
---- Didn't you just describe the tea party? Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:10 PM (gmeXX) Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 01, 2014 03:10 PM (kdS6q) Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2014 03:11 PM (1Y+hH) 165
Someone say 'populist'?
Posted by: Huck at December 01, 2014 03:11 PM (HBAcW) 166
and a plurality say any resulting gridlock would be the president's fault.
---- President Bush's? Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:11 PM (gmeXX) 167
What America needs is a $2B EBT website. Justice I say and long overdue.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 01, 2014 03:11 PM (oDCMR) 168
Only way to really push a cost curve down is to push the demand curve down.
Posted by: spongeworthy at December 01, 2014 03:11 PM (YLZjm) 169
It never happened.
Steve Sailer @Steve_Sailer 2m Alpha Game: The UVA rape hoax http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-uva-rape-hoax.html?spref=tw Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 03:12 PM (ZPrif) 170
It never happened. Steve Sailer @Steve_Sailer 2m Alpha Game: The UVA rape hoax http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-uva-rape-hoax.html?spref=tw
Posted by: Costanza Defense The shit that assholes in authority will believe. Posted by: Duke lacrosse team at December 01, 2014 03:12 PM (Spluw) 171
look for the NO EBT label. don't patronize those who collude.
Posted by: X at December 01, 2014 03:13 PM (KHo8t) 172
Ibuprophen 800 is an excellent anti-inflammatory drug.
Is it different than taking four 200mg ibuprofen tablets? Is the prescription just because of the Obamacare rule about not being able to use your pre-tax dollars for OTC medications? Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:13 PM (ZKzrr) 173
I deeply regret going to math camp the summer I was 14 instead of being an indiscriminate whore. Bad choices, man. I made bad choices.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:10 PM (ZKzrr) *nods even more sagely* Once upon a time, I said to some pathetic twat who was wailing at me but what about the children that I took active steps to not have my own children to care for so why would she think I would care for hers? This was met with a blank stare of utter incomprehension. Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at December 01, 2014 03:14 PM (mf5HN) 174
123, Calvin's in Baton Rouge loudly proclaims they don't take EBT.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 01, 2014 03:14 PM (hUQVp) 175
Or go concierge.
Which always struck a poor cord with me too. "Want to keep seeing me? Then fork over a big fat check." The setup with Obamacare almost encourages that level of extortion. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 03:00 PM (HDwDg I have a friend who went the concierge route a couple of years ago and she loves it. She doesn't mind the $1800 she had to pay up front, because of the amount of attention she has received. Visits with the doctor or physician's assistant last at least an hour. The first visit they mailed her something like ten pages of health history and questionnaire to fill out , then the doctor sat and reviewed each item one by one with her. She has had numerous tests(yes, some of those are probably in the realm of unnecessary, but they are tests that would be diagnostic in the insurance world, for which she is paying far less). She has been seen by a licensed nutritionist for several visits, who designed a program for her to reduce her weight(she looks fantastic now), which reduced her blood pressure and blood lipids/tryglycerides. She goes in three or four times a year for blood testing to see if she is maintaining. One visit demonstrated much higher blood sugar, she then met again with the nutritionist who pointed out that she was eating too much fruit...subsequent blood test was back to normal. She says what she likes the best is the time she gets with each professional. She doesn't feel like they are not listening to her or they are simply on a production line. She has 24 hr. access to a professional at the office for advice on sudden symptoms, etc. She maintains an insurance policy to cover catastrophic events, surgeries, etc. but really likes the $150 she pays per month(first year, all money up front, thereafter monthly ) as she feels she couldn't begin to get the care she gets at the cost she pays if she had straight up insurance. Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2014 03:14 PM (euPfy) 176
So does this mean Carrot Top will no longer be consuming copious quantities of teh plastic surgery? I hope not, I always enjoy watching Carrot Top do those crazy things with his face. He is like the new Jackie Gleason but only freakier and with red hair and stuff.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 01, 2014 03:14 PM (oDCMR) 177
Only way to really push a cost curve down is to push the demand curve down.
Or push the supply up, or decrease the overhead of the field. Posted by: toby928(C) rants Populist at December 01, 2014 03:14 PM (rwI+c) 178
Didn't you just describe the tea party?
Trying to remain an "independent force" and not a proper political party was a huge error--one I'm not sure can be rectified, given the length of time the statists have had to prepare. Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 01, 2014 03:15 PM (DT3rQ) 179
This was met with a blank stare of utter incomprehension.
Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at December 01, 2014 03:14 PM (mf5HN) Ahh...the ever popular "Resting DumbFuck Face". Posted by: BCochran1981 Esq. at December 01, 2014 03:15 PM (da5Wo) 180
It never happened.
Color me stunned. Congratulations SJWs- I now basically assume any accusation of sexual assault coming out of a university, and any claim of bigotry (racist/sexist/homophobic graffiti, etc.) is false. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 03:16 PM (M1uf/) 181
134 ...
A husband and wife could together make over six figures but be forced to forego health care, but the welfare queen on Medicaid in the projects has the luxury to take her kids to the doctor every time they get a sniffle. ... Posted by: McAdams at December 01, 2014 03:03 PM (4a2Pr) ______________________ Heh. Been a long time since anyone with a choice called me "doctor." Next! Posted by: Drunk Sawbones at December 01, 2014 03:16 PM (uqV2n) Posted by: toby928(C) rants Populist at December 01, 2014 03:16 PM (rwI+c) 183
REASON: Is The UVA Rape Story A Gigantic Hoax? If so, who will be held accountable?http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/199074/
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 03:16 PM (ZPrif) 184
White people not getting health care? Priceless!
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 01, 2014 03:17 PM (53CCM) 185
a plurality say any resulting gridlock would be the president's fault.
Posted by: SMOD at December 01, 2014 03:10 PM (e8kgV) We'll take care of that! Posted by: MFM at December 01, 2014 03:17 PM (W5DcG) 186
Or push the supply up, or decrease the overhead of the field.
Posted by: toby928(C) rants Populist at December 01, 2014 03:14 PM (rwI+c) That's some voodoo economics shit right there. And it sounds suspiciously like Math. Posted by: BCochran1981 Esq. at December 01, 2014 03:17 PM (da5Wo) 187
She maintains an insurance policy to cover catastrophic events,
---- Can you still get catostrophic coverage? Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:17 PM (gmeXX) 188
Is it different than taking four 200mg ibuprofen tablets? Is the prescription just because of the Obamacare rule about not being able to use your pre-tax dollars for OTC medications?
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:13 PM (ZKzrr) ---------------------------------------- It really has nothing to do with price or tax exempt status. It has everything to do with effectiveness. One bottle of 50 will last me 2-3 years. I only use it when asperin or OTC drugs don't work anymore. Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 03:17 PM (zexrO) 189
A husband and wife could together make over six figures but be forced to forego health care, but the welfare queen on Medicaid in the projects has the luxury to take her kids to the doctor every time they get a sniffle.
Conservatives really need to bust out the populism more often. Posted by: McAdams at December 01, 2014 03:03 PM (4a2Pr) She has to find a doc that takes Medicaid. More and more doctors are dropping out because they can't stay in practice on Medicaid's reimbursement. And once you become known as a Medicaid doc, the word spreads in the hood, and it's not long before that is the majority of your patient load. Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2014 03:18 PM (euPfy) 190
Thanks Allen G.
How's your arm feeling? I associate SCOAMT (F) with you because you post it all the time. Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:18 PM (sj3Ax) 191
REASON: Is The UVA Rape Story A Gigantic Hoax? If so, who will be held accountable?http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/199074/
Posted by: Costanza Defense Us. And probably, only us. Posted by: Every fraternity at UVA at December 01, 2014 03:19 PM (Spluw) 192
You can bend the demand curve down by killing 100 million people
Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at December 01, 2014 03:19 PM (32Ze2) 193
Posted by: Costanza Defense
----- The story absolutely requires skepticism. One of the articles linked in that Reason article is the best on it. Basically, the author says could it have happened - sure. Did it - probably not. I guess at this point, the person in the story will forever remain anonymous that way the story is never proven ... but never disproven. It had its intended effect. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:20 PM (gmeXX) 194
You can bend the demand curve down by killing 100 million people
Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy that's my line! Posted by: Ag uy from Obama's neighborhood at December 01, 2014 03:20 PM (Spluw) 195
One bottle of 50 will last me 2-3 years. I only use it when asperin or OTC drugs don't work anymore.
Is it chemically different than OTC ibuprofen? Google is telling me no, but I don't think it understands my question. Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:22 PM (ZKzrr) 196
They have us where the hair is crisp, folks.
I know several people who are delaying doctor's appointments because of this dreckmeister. A lot of Democrats who are angry (they didn't listen to any conservative news outlets, so they were blindsided). The whole scheme is to rob the middle class and spread our money around to Leftists' clients/moochers. Posted by: Beverly Cooper at December 01, 2014 03:22 PM (IdR3U) 197
emotional support pig?
emotional rescue by the strolling bones is much more effective. just load up your iThingy with iTunes and head bob your way through life. We will never die. Posted by: Fredericks of Hodunk, we're on the map at December 01, 2014 03:22 PM (0mp5c) 198
And we can increase the supply by importing the fine Doctors from Pock-Eeee-Stahn.
Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at December 01, 2014 03:23 PM (32Ze2) 199
She maintains an insurance policy to cover catastrophic events,
---- Can you still get catostrophic coverage? Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:17 PM (gmeXX) Yes, she has a huge deductible.....I call that catastrophic coverage now, because you still have to pay thousands of dollars before insurance kicks in. But once it does, then they cover hospital charges, doctor charges, etc. at 80%, which you would need for say a heart surgery, gall bladder, cancer treatment, etc. Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2014 03:23 PM (euPfy) 200
President Gaylord is laughing up his sleeve at all the honkies getting screwed. Couldn't care less about collateral damage (non-honkies), either.
Posted by: Beverly Cooper at December 01, 2014 03:23 PM (IdR3U) 201
I deeply regret going to math camp the summer I was 14 instead of being an indiscriminate whore. Bad choices, man. I made bad choices.
Posted by: HR needs donuts This one time at band camp...... Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:23 PM (NT0fV) 202
So the rich just pay out of pocket, and the poor get more free stuff and the middle class gets it in the pooper?
Sound vaguely familiar. Posted by: Colleges and Universities at December 01, 2014 03:23 PM (vgIRn) 203
And don't forget....Obama also slipped in an increase in the Medicare tax for high wage earners to pay for part of Obamacare. So, we can now incrementally tax people higher through payroll taxes to give more to the nonworking whose only job is to show up on election day and vote for more free stuff.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at December 01, 2014 03:23 PM (OWjjx) 204
Fredo is on his way to destroying the US Military and the US Healthcare System. Both were the best in the World before he took over
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 01, 2014 03:24 PM (Zmw74) 205
Yes, she has a huge deductible.....I call that catastrophic coverage now, because you still have to pay thousands of dollars before insurance kicks in. But once it does, then they cover hospital charges, doctor charges, etc. at 80%, which you would need for say a heart surgery, gall bladder, cancer treatment, etc.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2014 03:23 PM (euPfy) ---- But do they offer true catostrophic coverage like they used to (Major Medical?). High deductible is still expensive. At one time, you could get major medical that had about a $25,000 deductible. I'm not sure that is available any more - but maybe I'm wrong. I had it when I was young and in grad school. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:24 PM (gmeXX) 206
Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2014 03:23 PM (euPfy) I'm looking at 40-50K for my surgery. Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:24 PM (C278+) 207
GotNews guy, smart dude. Kinda crazy, but he understands how to play the game. Jiu-jitsu the bastards. Pick fights.
Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson 14m You've got to understand. I don't get upset when liberal journalists attack me. I see it as the free advertising that it is. #Ferguson Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson 11m I couldn't buy ad space in the papers that write freely about me. Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 03:24 PM (ZPrif) 208
oh so much snark.
This is not the hill to die on, especially after the election, we should work with obama on his illegal "spit in your face" "the worst is yet to come based on our weakness" amnesty. signed xxoo Mitt Romney* * seriously, limbaugh reported that that's basically what foot off the gas, Mr. resume said. Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 01, 2014 03:25 PM (kso21) 209
This is, I think, slowly sinking in, that the Democrats just looted 85% of the country for the benefit of 5%. Chucky Schumer figured it all out and is trying to get way out in front of the mob; the other Democrats are going to be sprinting that way soon (if you are in front of the mob is that because you are being chased or you are leading them?)
Only the obtuse and way-too-young-to-know-better White House staffers are disdaining what a political creature with highly refined wind direction detection abilities is saying. Should be fun. Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 01, 2014 03:25 PM (hLRSq) 210
If you have REAL pain, and you don't want anything stronger, there is a great advantage to not swallowing 4 200mg ibu every 4 hours. 16 pills a day gets old.
Especially if you've got a crazy flu and it hurts to swallow. Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 03:25 PM (uqV2n) 211
Fredo is on his way to destroying the US Military and the US Healthcare System. Both were the best in the World before he took over
Before Obama.. ..after Obama. Posted by: Fredericks of Hodunk, we're on the map at December 01, 2014 03:25 PM (0mp5c) 212
$6000 deductibles, how do they work?
signed, xxoo the liberals who accused you of wanting people to die in the street (as was, apparently, the case before obamacare) by opposing 404care Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 01, 2014 03:25 PM (kso21) 213
..Ibuprofen 800 is an excellent anti-inflammatory drug. I'm not a big fan of all the antibiotics that are being handed out like candy.
Posted by: Soona Same as taking 4 200mg over the counter store brand ibuprofen. Posted by: Aviator at December 01, 2014 03:25 PM (3rrMW) 214
Second look at Santorum?
I kid, but it was his populism that made him appealing to me in that patethic 2012 field against Obama. Posted by: SH Yea, the problem is his calling card were weird SoCon issues that even most in the Religious Right were uncomfortable with. That's what would have defined his campaign, even Santorum himself said he wanted to use his Presidential campaign to talk about the moral dangers of married couples using birth control. I think too many equate conservative populism with "culture war" issues, I view effective populism from the Right as "look at this new class of parasites that are living high on the hog off your sweat" Posted by: McAdams at December 01, 2014 03:26 PM (4a2Pr) 215
It's not even about the costs of healthcare per se, it's the cost of everything. Responsible people, by their nature, will have fewer kids. Rinse and repeat for a few generations, and import third world labor to minimize teens seeking entry level jobs, and you'll have a vote-proof socialist hellhole.
Posted by: robschr at December 01, 2014 03:26 PM (rPSqu) 216
There are a lot of unbelieveable facts in the UVA story, but the biggest one for me was that she stayed at UVA.
Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:27 PM (gmeXX) Posted by: Trained Witchdoctor at December 01, 2014 03:27 PM (AvP4a) 218
Good news! Thanks to Teh Won, I now have maternity benefits, "free" contraception, and newborn care.
None of which I need, obviously. Gotta love the Age of Obama. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 01, 2014 03:27 PM (FsuaD) 219
How's your arm feeling?
It hurts, and I may have damage to the tendons/ligaments in my elbow. I have an appointment with the Orthopedist tomorrow afternoon. It's amazing the number of tasks I didn't realize took two functional arms... Thank you for asking. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 03:28 PM (M1uf/) 220
200mg over the counter store brand ibuprofen.
There was one time I was on a road trip and grumping about the per-pill price difference between the purse-size bottle I was purchasing and the 1000-pill bottle I had at home, and realized that for most of human history you couldn't get that kind of pain relief for a week's wages. Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:29 PM (ZKzrr) 221
It's amazing the number of tasks I didn't realize took two functional arms... So much for some "Strange". Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:29 PM (C278+) 222
This is, I think, slowly sinking in, that the Democrats just looted 85% of the country for the benefit of 5%. Chucky Schumer figured it all out and is trying to get way out in front of the mob; the other Democrats are going to be sprinting that way soon
#TooLateBitchez #MillstonesR-Us #FreeFittings Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:29 PM (NT0fV) 223
so should i start up a chicken ranch to barter for health care now?
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:30 PM (nqBYe) 224
Allen G,
Same orthopedist you saw last Tuesday that said your arm wasn't broken? How was drive to work? Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:30 PM (sj3Ax) 225
look for the NO EBT label. don't patronize those who collude.
Posted by: X at December 01, 2014 03:13 PM (KHo8t) Never seen one. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 01, 2014 03:30 PM (W5DcG) 226
>>The left wants people to die.They have said so openly.
It's not so much that we want people to die as it is that some lives are more valuable than other, more deserving of limited healthcare expenditures. . . . . OK, we do want people to die. Posted by: Ezekiel Emanuel at December 01, 2014 03:30 PM (ABcz/) 227
I am starting to think Biden would be a better president. Yeah, it's that bad
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 01, 2014 03:31 PM (6/J77) 228
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:30 PM (nqBYe) Depends on if you have chickens or "chickens". Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:31 PM (C278+) 229
I think too many equate conservative populism with "culture war" issues, I view effective populism from the Right as "look at this new class of parasites that are living high on the hog off your sweat"
---- You are right in that it may have defined his campaign. In a campaign about Obamacare, he could have talked about it - though certainly the media would want to only talk about his socon issues. Of course, I think that would have been a plus (obviously others differ). I didn't necessarily agree with his no-tax plan for manufacturers (because I think it should appply to all businesses), but at least it would appeal to blue collar workers, which Mitt was not going to do. I didn't think he was a great candidate, just the best in a crappy field (once it was down to Mitt and Santorum). And I thought he was the better candidate against Obama whereas Mitt was not (because of Obamacare). I think Mitt would have been a better candidate against Obama in 2008. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:31 PM (gmeXX) Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 01, 2014 03:31 PM (hUQVp) 231
hey remember when we thought the skies the limit if we hunkered down, flew right, worked hard?
not so much. Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:32 PM (nqBYe) 232
I thought Baraka bought his self pretty good impeachment insurance with Biden as VP. I am no longer sure
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 01, 2014 03:32 PM (6/J77) 233
I think the obvious solutions are:
1] Find a guy that's really really good at Excel spreadsheets to adjust the maths, and 2] Get everybody on Dr. Black's Soopah-food Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 03:32 PM (3ZtZW) 234
President Obama early next year will try to force employers to pay their workers more overtime by limiting which workers can be called managers.
LET IT BE WRITTEN, LET IT BE SO! Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 01, 2014 03:32 PM (Zmw74) Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at December 01, 2014 03:32 PM (VLfid) 236
If you have REAL pain, and you don't want anything stronger, there is a great advantage to not swallowing 4 200mg ibu every 4 hours. 16 pills a day gets old.
Especially if you've got a crazy flu and it hurts to swallow. Everclear & oj. Most bang for your buck. Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:32 PM (NT0fV) 237
How about an executive order that dictates what equipment a state's NG can use in responding to riots?
Posted by: President Obama at December 01, 2014 03:33 PM (81puj) 238
Is it chemically different than OTC ibuprofen? Google is telling me no, but I don't think it understands my question.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:22 PM (ZKzrr) --------------------------------------- I'm sure it's the same chemical formula. I have just found that the shock of a sudden dose of 800 mlg's is best for my purposes. And I repeat that I only use it when all the other over-the-counter drugs quit working. The same thing might not work for you. Plus, it's easier on my stomach for some reason. Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 03:33 PM (zexrO) 239
>>I am starting to think Biden would be a better president. Yeah, it's that bad
Biden would be much less damaging. It's that simple. Provided he replaced Obama's cabinet and other WH advisers. Posted by: Lizzy at December 01, 2014 03:33 PM (ABcz/) 240
oh, kids about those bday presents, you want a doctor visit to fix your tooth or a toy?
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:33 PM (nqBYe) 241
Guy who doesn't read the comments,
Allen G. Corrected me. I apologize! Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:34 PM (sj3Ax) 242
I'm sure it's the same chemical formula. I have just found that the shock of a sudden dose of 800 mlg's is best for my purposes.
---- When you get down to it, there is no reason it should not be available OTC. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:34 PM (gmeXX) 243
I am starting to think Biden would be a better president. Yeah, it's that bad
Posted by: The Jackhole Ya think that Val jarrett couldn't figure out how to jam her hand up his ass too? he's a vicious, lazy shit that never held a real job in his life. Sound like anyone we know? There's a reason obama picked him, and we use the insurance gag to make us feel better. Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2014 03:34 PM (Spluw) 244
Here's the thing:
People no longer even argue- Why is it my job to take care of your lazy ass when I work like a dog just to stay in the middle class? I mean, its just assumed by the Dims and Reps that they have a right to your income. The haggling point is simply how much. I don't want people starving to death in the streets, but honestly that's just about it. You want more than some kind of Purina Human Chow to keep you alive? Get off your ass and work. Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2014 03:34 PM (0cMkb) 245
On Sunday, the Chicago Archbishop who has been described as Pope Franciss American messenger praised President Barack Obamas executive amnesty and expressed concerns about the privacy of illegal immigrants who will be coming out of the shadows.
Me no likie this Popie Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 01, 2014 03:34 PM (Zmw74) Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:34 PM (C278+) 247
>>And I thought he was the better candidate against Obama whereas Mitt was not (because of Obamacare). I think Mitt would have been a better candidate against Obama in 2008.
Santorum wouldn't be the better candidate in a race where he was the only candidate. Seriously, do people not remember Santorum's actual record? Wearing sweater vests and talking non-stop about loving the baby Jesus does not make you a conservative. Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2014 03:34 PM (g1DWB) 248
Same orthopedist you saw last Tuesday that said your arm wasn't broken?
Of course. And, in his (and consequently- my) defense: the *shoulder* feels just fine, and I didn't notice a problem with the elbow (or, rather, the problem didn't seem unusual) until Friday. How was drive to work? Not bad, actually. It's the left arm that's damaged, and I drive an automatic, so as long as things don't get crazy, I'm fine. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 03:35 PM (M1uf/) Posted by: Hell at December 01, 2014 03:35 PM (XYKz+) 250
Now he wants to do the same thing with ObamaPay. Except he doesn't have a congress to steam roll it through. So I guess he'll have to go Dictator again. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2014 03:35 PM (NtzGn) 251
Depends on how you define "pain relief".
"Cramps go away." Booze doesn't really work. Trust me, I try. Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:35 PM (ZKzrr) 252
Come to think of it, "Logan's Run" had the right idea.
We'll just start with it set at age 75 - you all know I wouldn't want to live past 75 - and adjust it as needed. Posted by: Ezekiel Emanuel at December 01, 2014 03:35 PM (ABcz/) Posted by: Rev Dr Dumb Bunnies at December 01, 2014 03:35 PM (cNiT0) 254
But do they offer true catostrophic coverage like they used to (Major Medical?). High deductible is still expensive. At one time, you could get major medical that had about a $25,000 deductible. I'm not sure that is available any more - but maybe I'm wrong. I had it when I was young and in grad school.
Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:24 PM (gmeXX) I don't know for sure, but I doubt it would be exactly like the Major Medical of old. The ACA demands that all policies have all this extraneous coverage, which is what drives the premiums up even if the policy already had a high deductible. Men can' t pay less than women, no preexisting condition clause etc. So , in short, no. Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2014 03:36 PM (euPfy) 255
obama-sometimes you might just wanna take a pill for that.
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:36 PM (nqBYe) Posted by: Barup bump at December 01, 2014 03:37 PM (XYKz+) 257
MA soon to be former governor Deval Patrick wanted an indictment of Officer Wilson DESPITE not knowing facts!
We must start testing people before they vote. He's a mini-me of SCOAMT but he is a SCOAMF. Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:37 PM (sj3Ax) 258
235,
Not a surprise. i still don't think Mary wins even with 200% turnout at the St Louis Cemetery polling place. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 01, 2014 03:37 PM (hUQVp) 259
Every time I drink coffee I get a stabbing pain in my eye.
Posted by: toby928(C) tees it up at December 01, 2014 03:37 PM (rwI+c) 260
It hurts, and I may have damage to the tendons/ligaments in my elbow.I have an appointment with the Orthopedist tomorrow afternoon.It's amazing the number of tasks I didn't realize took two functional arms...Thank you for asking.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 03:28 PM (M1uf/) ------------------------------------------ Didn't someone say that you sprained it from fapping to hard? Maybe I heard that wrong. It was on this blog. Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 03:38 PM (zexrO) 261
>>oh, kids about those bday presents, you want a doctor visit to fix your tooth or a toy?
Heh. Just got my eyes examined and opted for the cheaper, non-bifocal contact lenses. I didn't even price new glasses. Yay, Obamacare! Posted by: Lizzy at December 01, 2014 03:38 PM (ABcz/) 262
Hey I'll give my doc's number Dr. Vinnie Boom Bots!
Posted by: No Respect at December 01, 2014 03:38 PM (XYKz+) Posted by: toby928(C) tees it up at December 01, 2014 03:38 PM (rwI+c) 264
Every time I drink coffee I get a stabbing pain in my eye.
Try putting down the pen when you pick up the mug. Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 01, 2014 03:38 PM (ZKzrr) 265
Only way to really push a cost curve down is to push the demand curve down.
Or push the supply up, or decrease the overhead of the field. Posted by: toby928(C) rants Populist at December 01, 2014 03:14 PM (rwI+c) ---- or.... how bout the Fed just leave everybody the fuck alone. Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2014 03:38 PM (NaV4z) 266
Ask you doctor if he accepts Obamacare or Medicaid. If he says yes, find one who doesn't. Let the providers eat welfare cake.
Posted by: X at December 01, 2014 03:39 PM (KHo8t) 267
I'm not a president but I play one.
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 01, 2014 03:39 PM (bJm7W) Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:39 PM (C278+) 269
Santorum wouldn't be the better candidate in a race where he was the only candidate. Seriously, do people not remember Santorum's actual record?
Wearing sweater vests and talking non-stop about loving the baby Jesus does not make you a conservative. ----- Yes, I remember his actual record. Yes, I have doubts about his conservatism. But I know he would not appoint someone to the court who would defend Roe v. Wade - which is something I cannot say about Mitt. I also know he was outspoken about Obamacre - and was credible on it, something Mitt lacked due to Romneycare and all his talk about 50 state waivers. In a race against Obamacare, I thought he would have been a better candidate than Mitt. I can't prove it of course, but we know Mitt lost a winnable election and we know he had faults (47%, etc.). Would Santorum have won - I have no idea. Would he have performed worse than Mitt - possible, though I doubt it. Mitt was the wrong candidate for the election he was in. Santorum was the other choice. It was a weak field. I wish others had thrown their hat in the ring. But hopefully it killed the Mitt candidacy once and for all. I actually grew to like Mitt much more than when the race started. But I was always concerned with the type of judges he would appoint. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:39 PM (gmeXX) 270
Howie Carr is playing clips of Allem West giving four examples of black on white crime. Nothing that made national headlines, news or riots.
Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:39 PM (sj3Ax) 271
Didn't someone say that you sprained it from fapping to hard? Maybe I heard that wrong. It was on this blog.
If so they were kidding or lying. I fap right-handed. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 03:40 PM (M1uf/) 272
Come to think of it, "Logan's Run" had the right idea.
We'll just start with it set at age 75 - you all know I wouldn't want to live past 75 Posted by: Ezekiel Emanuel Challenge accepted! BTW, how do you feel about making it to your next birthday???? Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:40 PM (NT0fV) Posted by: toby928(C) tees it up at December 01, 2014 03:40 PM (rwI+c) 274
On Sunday, the Chicago Archbishop who has been described as Pope Franciss American messenger praised President Barack Obamas executive amnesty and expressed concerns about the privacy of illegal immigrants who will be coming out of the shadows. Me no likie this Popie
Posted by: Nevergiveup Yet another reason that the leadership of the Church should never be trusted. I remember swearing repeatedly that they did not want an amnesty in any way. These are the same assholes who were onboard with Obamacare; until he shanked them and did the abortion gag. because he needed a fall guy for the woman vote, and the stodgy Church was a perfect target. yes, I'm a practicing Catholic. Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2014 03:40 PM (Spluw) 275
I'm shocked that I've been taken for some kind of teetotaler. If I had surgery and was on prescription pain meds, my goal would be to get to ibu800 as soon as possible, stepping down 200mg at a time till I got to no ibuprofen. At which point booze is the last step off the pain med ladder.
For one thing, I've successfully controlled my booze addiction before. I have not done so with some prescription pain med I've never taken. More to the point, the whole point of getting healthy is so I can drink again! Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 03:40 PM (uqV2n) 276
"We'll just start with it set at age 75 - you all know I wouldn't want to live past 75 - and adjust it as needed."
And then comes the "altering of the deal" - I really like that part. So much fun watching as the realization sinks in and the expressions change to dismay, horror, and resignation. Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 01, 2014 03:40 PM (hLRSq) Posted by: Ebenezer Obama at December 01, 2014 03:41 PM (lN8KC) 278
When you get down to it, there is no reason it should not be available OTC.
Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:34 PM (gmeXX) ---------------------------------------- In Thailand I got the 600 over-the-counter. BUT......That was Thailand. Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 03:41 PM (zexrO) 279
i know 3 families on medicaid.
i see them use the health care emergency room at the chance they might be sick with anythin.going.around or a any ache or pain. seems inefficient and costly. Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:41 PM (nqBYe) 280
C'mon face it no one gets outa here alive.
Posted by: Life at December 01, 2014 03:41 PM (XYKz+) 281
Ask you doctor if he accepts Obamacare or Medicaid. If he says yes, find one who doesn't. Let the providers eat welfare cake.
---- I think this will eventually take care of itself, as many of the good doctors already no longer accept medicaid/medicare. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:42 PM (gmeXX) 282
274 On Sunday, the Chicago Archbishop who has been described as Pope Franciss American messenger praised President Barack Obamas executive amnesty and expressed concerns about the privacy of illegal immigrants who will be coming out of the shadows. Me no likie this Popie
Posted by: Nevergiveup Not to worry. It'll all be over soon. Posted by: St. Malachy at December 01, 2014 03:42 PM (vgIRn) 283
*emergency room
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:43 PM (nqBYe) 284
seems inefficient and costly.
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:41 PM (nqBYe) Not for them... Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-armed typist at December 01, 2014 03:43 PM (M1uf/) 285
OT
A Michigan woman returned home today after being released on personal recognizance bond after she was arrested by Secret Service for carrying a purple and silver 9mm handgun on her hip in front of the White House during a protest. She was charged with carrying a handgun without a license(although previous articles claimed it was unregistered, ammo was unregistered, etc.(remember this is DC). The DC judge remanded her to the custody of her uncle with the stipulation she receive mental health care, participate in a mental health treatment plan and take any prescribed medications. Her family said that she had taken a CPL class in Michigan, but did not know if she ever pursued a CPL license. Her family said she carried all the time....... http://tinyurl.com/nd5oopk Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2014 03:43 PM (euPfy) 286
Joseph is a fruitful bough.
Posted by: Bob Marley at December 01, 2014 03:44 PM (rwI+c) 287
280 C'mon face it no one gets outa here alive.
Posted by: Life at December 01, 2014 03:41 PM (XYKz+) What? What have you heard? HELP ME! Posted by: No One at December 01, 2014 03:44 PM (84oau) 288
Obamacare is obviously a disaster. But I'm not sure this poll is proof, since it seems like this poll could partly be explained by increased uses of "high deductible plus HSA" plans. I mean I've gotten an HSA and tried to cut down on how much healthcare I am consuming so that I can keep the money that gets put in the HSA every year instead of spending it on trips to the doctor that I can get away with skipping. So if someone asked me if I had "put off going to the doctor because of cost" I think I'd have to say yes. But it wouldn't be because of obamacare (which, as I said, is a total and obvious disaster).
Posted by: mr.midnight at December 01, 2014 03:46 PM (Kv/xV) 289
269 Santorum wouldn't be the better candidate in a race where he was the only candidate. Seriously, do people not remember Santorum's actual record?
Wearing sweater vests and talking non-stop about loving the baby Jesus does not make you a conservative. ----- Yes, I remember his actual record. Yes, I have doubts about his conservatism. But I know he would not appoint someone to the court who would defend Roe v. Wade - which is something I cannot say about Mitt. I also know he was outspoken about Obamacre - and was credible on it, something Mitt lacked due to Romneycare and all his talk about 50 state waivers. In a race against Obamacare, I thought he would have been a better candidate than Mitt. I can't prove it of course, but we know Mitt lost a winnable election and we know he had faults (47%, etc.). Would Santorum have won - I have no idea. Would he have performed worse than Mitt - possible, though I doubt it. Mitt was the wrong candidate for the election he was in. Santorum was the other choice. It was a weak field. I wish others had thrown their hat in the ring. But hopefully it killed the Mitt candidacy once and for all. I actually grew to like Mitt much more than when the race started. But I was always concerned with the type of judges he would appoint. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:39 PM (gmeXX) LOL Santorum?? How is his social conservatism going to play out here in the New Babylon??? Posted by: Give Me A Freakin Break! at December 01, 2014 03:46 PM (XYKz+) 290
Not to worry. It'll all be over soon. Posted by: St. Malachy at December 01, 2014 03:42 PM (vgIRn) I'm empty Posted by: St Cosmas at December 01, 2014 03:46 PM (84oau) 291
Allen, i probably shouldn't say anything. I go to the doc about every 10 years for something.or.other.
cut off tip of finger? just neosporin and duct tape it up! Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:46 PM (nqBYe) Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:47 PM (NT0fV) 293
Big meeting at White House with race rabble rousers, Sharpton among them.
Local Boston radio host Howie Carr linked story from Enquirer that Hillary is a drunk & going to rehab, but will tell media she's going to a spa. Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:47 PM (sj3Ax) 294
269 Santorum wouldn't be the better candidate in a race where he was the only candidate. Seriously, do people not remember Santorum's actual record?
Wearing sweater vests and talking non-stop about loving the baby Jesus does not make you a conservative. ----- Yes, I remember his actual record. Yes, I have doubts about his conservatism. But I know he would not appoint someone to the court who would defend Roe v. Wade - which is something I cannot say about Mitt. I also know he was outspoken about Obamacre - and was credible on it, something Mitt lacked due to Romneycare and all his talk about 50 state waivers. In a race against Obamacare, I thought he would have been a better candidate than Mitt. I can't prove it of course, but we know Mitt lost a winnable election and we know he had faults (47%, etc.). Would Santorum have won - I have no idea. Would he have performed worse than Mitt - possible, though I doubt it. Mitt was the wrong candidate for the election he was in. Santorum was the other choice. It was a weak field. I wish others had thrown their hat in the ring. But hopefully it killed the Mitt candidacy once and for all. I actually grew to like Mitt much more than when the race started. But I was always concerned with the type of judges he would appoint. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:39 PM (gmeXX) LOL Right! Posted by: Life at December 01, 2014 03:47 PM (XYKz+) 295
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:46 PM (nqBYe) Can you go to the dr.'s for me Weds. then? Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:47 PM (C278+) 296
C'mon face it no one gets outa here alive. Posted by: Life at December 01, 2014 03:41 PM (XYKz+)
-------------------------------------------- From what I here on tv and others is that if you quit smoking, you'll live forever. Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 03:48 PM (zexrO) 297
287 280 C'mon face it no one gets outa here alive.
Posted by: Life at December 01, 2014 03:41 PM (XYKz+) What? What have you heard? HELP ME! Posted by: No One at December 01, 2014 03:44 PM (84oau Right? LOL Posted by: Life at December 01, 2014 03:48 PM (XYKz+) 298
wrg, as long as it isn't cancer, chemo, sure.
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:48 PM (nqBYe) 299
I stand corrected. Mitt was a great candidate. Santorum was pro-life. We never elect pro-lifers in this country.
Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:48 PM (gmeXX) 300
here=hear
Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 03:49 PM (zexrO) Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:49 PM (nqBYe) 302
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:48 PM (nqBYe) Good, I don't want to go. Evaluation for triple bypass surgery. Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:49 PM (C278+) 303
oh, i be not birthin no babies either!
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:50 PM (nqBYe) 304
291 Allen, i probably shouldn't say anything. I go to the doc about every 10 years for something.or.other.
cut off tip of finger? just neosporin and duct tape it up! Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:46 PM (nqBYe) I'm an iodine man myself. Posted by: skull and bones at December 01, 2014 03:50 PM (XYKz+) Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2014 03:50 PM (NaV4z) 306
Wow, Morning Joe went on a tear this am about Ferguson.
Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:50 PM (sj3Ax) 307
Mitt was the wrong candidate for the election he was in. Santorum was the other choice. It was a weak field. I wish others had thrown their hat in the ring. But hopefully it killed the Mitt candidacy once and for all. I actually grew to like Mitt much more than when the race started. But I was always concerned with the type of judges he would appoint. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:39 PM (gmeXX) LOL Right!
Posted by: Life He couldn't keep hold of a Senate seat in PA. There's no way he could have been viable nationally., Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2014 03:51 PM (Spluw) 308
Good, I don't want to go. Evaluation for triple bypass surgery.
Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:49 PM (C278+) let me look. uh hmm nope can do. you might actually have a bad consequence if i sit in for you. Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:51 PM (nqBYe) 309
I'm an iodine man myself.
Posted by: skull and bones at December 01, 2014 03:50 PM (XYKz+) --- Mercurochrome for the wiiiwwweeeeeeeooooooooowwwww THAT HURTS!!!. Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2014 03:51 PM (NaV4z) Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (3ZtZW) 311
nope can do. you might actually have a bad consequence if i sit in for you. Ahh, no heart. Got it. Posted by: wrg500 at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (C278+) 312
nope can do. you might actually have a bad consequence if i sit in for you.
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:51 PM (nqBYe) --- Depends on what theyre bypassing.... Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (NaV4z) 313
Mercurochrome for the wiiiwwweeeeeeeooooooooowwwww THAT HURTS!!!.
Posted by: fixerupper Who else remembers "Indian Paint"? Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (Spluw) 314
I'm an iodine man myself.
Posted by: skull and bones at December 01, 2014 03:50 PM (XYKz+) --- Mercurochrome for the wiiiwwweeeeeeeooooooooowwwww THAT HURTS!!!. Monkey Blood FTW! Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (NT0fV) Posted by: toby928(C) at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (rwI+c) 316
299 I stand corrected. Mitt was a great candidate. Santorum was pro-life. We never elect pro-lifers in this country.
Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:48 PM (gmeXX) Santorum would have made a great HS principle in 1957 Posted by: skull and bones at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (XYKz+) 317
He couldn't keep hold of a Senate seat in PA. There's no way he could have been viable nationally.,
---- Yeah, well neither could Mitt. Only one of these do we know with certainty. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 03:53 PM (gmeXX) 318
Hmm home made antibiotic's
Posted by: skull and bones at December 01, 2014 03:53 PM (XYKz+) 319
Romney's(spit) Republican strategy: Give complete amnesty to all that are here illegally. Brilliant!
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 01, 2014 03:53 PM (XzRw1) 320
He couldn't keep hold of a Senate seat in PA. There's no way he could have been viable nationally.,
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2014 03:51 PM (Spluw) -------------------------------------- His socialistic tendencies showed when he signed MassCare. He had no moral high ground when discussing conservative values. That's what killed his chances. Posted by: Soona at December 01, 2014 03:54 PM (zexrO) 321
Monkey Blood FTW!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (NT0fV) ---- You PC'd that one up... huh.... Posted by: fixerupper at December 01, 2014 03:54 PM (NaV4z) 322
315 I'm an iodine man myself.
Straight into the whiskey. Posted by: toby928(C) at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (rwI+c) Iodine can kill a charging rino at 60 paces. Posted by: skull and bones at December 01, 2014 03:55 PM (XYKz+) Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:55 PM (NT0fV) 324
269
Santorum wouldn't be the better candidate in a race where he was the only candidate. Seriously, do people not remember Santorum's actual record? ----- Yes, I remember his actual record. Yes, I have doubts about his conservatism. But I know he would not appoint someone to the court who would defend Roe v. Wade - which is something I cannot say about Mitt. Posted by: SH The thing is, Santorum started out as a pro-choice Republican that was against Right to Work laws. He wasn't quite the rock ribbed conservative many gave him credit for. Whatever his true convictions, Santoum conservatism would have turned off more than just the "middle" I think many Republicans would leave the Party if the focus was going to be on abortion and birth control. I just don't believe there's this huge voter base of super religious voters that sits out elections unless Republicans turn up the abortion dial. Santorum lost his last Senate race by nearly 20 points in his home state, that's enough of a test run to tell me were were looking at a train wreck that had implications beyond just the Presidential race. Posted by: McAdams at December 01, 2014 03:57 PM (4a2Pr) 325
Romney sucks & I can't believe he actually said that!
Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:57 PM (sj3Ax) 326
Straight into the whiskey.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 01, 2014 03:52 PM (rwI+c) I got off the whiskey train years ago I'm a bourbon man. Bakers mmmm when I can get it Posted by: skull and bones at December 01, 2014 03:57 PM (XYKz+) 327
Help! Something has a hold of my leg! Pulling me back down!
Posted by: Crab in a bucket of Socialist Crabs at December 01, 2014 03:57 PM (nbGZj) 328
You PC'd that one up... huh....
Always called it mokey blood. Never could spell Mercurochrome until I was much older. LOL. Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:57 PM (NT0fV) 329
wrg500, i'd go with you if you lived close.
Posted by: willow at December 01, 2014 03:57 PM (nqBYe) 330
So . . . anybody else seeing the employer mandates screw up their finances yet? My premiums tripled.
Posted by: Hal at December 01, 2014 04:00 PM (hmPdt) 331
SH,
Mitt ran for governor as stepping stone to run for president. He didn't run for reelection because he couldn't win. Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 04:00 PM (sj3Ax) 332
232 I thought Baraka bought his self pretty good impeachment insurance with Biden as VP. I am no longer sure
Posted by: The Jackhole He was born into the correct gene pool, half breed. That trumps all crime and white guilt. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 04:01 PM (vPh3W) 333
Local Boston radio host Howie Carr linked story from Enquirer that Hillary is a drunk & going to rehab, but will tell media she's going to a spa.
Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2014 03:47 PM (sj3Ax) Mmm, Betty Ford clinic? They probably have a First Ladies room.... Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2014 04:03 PM (euPfy) 334
323 Hmm home made antibiotic's
Red Man chewin' tobacco and Old Grandad whisky. Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 03:55 PM (NT0fV) Grandpa Misanthrope believed in Redman, he also believed in Oxydol detergent and Christian Brothers Brandy. He lived to be 96. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 04:04 PM (vPh3W) 335
Romney couldn't hold on to the Governorship in his own state, no way he was going to get elected nationally.
Posted by: Two Can Play That Game at December 01, 2014 04:04 PM (nbGZj) 336
SH,
Mitt ran for governor as stepping stone to run for president. He didn't run for reelection because he couldn't win. ----- ??? Its not that I disagree - just don't know why you are bringing it up? My point was Mitt could win nationally - evidenced by his loss. I think Santorum and his populism, clear ability to speak out againt Obamacare, and his pro-life bona fides would have made him a better candidate. Obvious, McAdams and others think socon policies are negatives. I just disagree and I don't think there is a lot of evidence to support McAdams on that belief. Its old news - so it doesn't matter. I brought it up because someone said something about populism. And I do think conservatives should adopt a lot of populist type policies - chiefly going after corporate cronyism. 2016 will produce a much better field. Onward and upward. Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 04:06 PM (gmeXX) 337
nood beatings.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2014 04:06 PM (NT0fV) 338
Sometimes I get exercise and eat my veggies. Once in a while I even wash my cracks.. aint letting no mrsa , ebola and flesh eating anything get a hold on me. and yeah keeping the house clean is up on my list also albeit to the horror and dismay of the feminist meme of men wanting to keep women down as housewives. Those twisted sisters fucked up households pretty good, with the help of the Proglodites!!
Posted by: skull and bones at December 01, 2014 04:06 PM (XYKz+) Posted by: SH at December 01, 2014 04:06 PM (gmeXX) 340
A Michigan woman returned home today after being released on personal recognizance bond after she was arrested by Secret Service for carrying a purple and silver 9mm handgun on her hip in front of the White House during a protest.
I'd hit it. Purple and silver though... /shrugs Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 01, 2014 04:09 PM (DT3rQ) 341
I brought it up because someone said something about populism. And I do think conservatives should adopt a lot of populist type policies - chiefly going after corporate cronyism. 2016 will produce a much better field. Onward and upward.
Posted by: SH You're certainly onto something here. Notice that the most crass sort of populism by the leftis adored, while if it occurs on the right, there's a sudden out break of elitist denunciation. Bernie the communist sanders and Princess Running Joke and the occurapists get a pass while Sarah Palin and the Tea party are vilified. And note that the left goes quiet about the tassles on their lunatic fringe. The GOP crucifies theirs. Posted by: Blue Hen at December 01, 2014 04:10 PM (Spluw) 342
335.
What does it say though that Romney crushed Santorum in the primaries? And that Santorum dropped out before he faced his own state of PA in the primary because he was going to lose to Romney? He didn't want the humiliating loss. Did Santorum win a single state that wasn't a caucus? I don't think either were Romney or Santorum were strong candidates, but I have absolutely zero doubt that Romney would have outperformed Rick Santorum. If Santorum was more mainstream on social issues, I think he really could have been a good option and did seem to have a better connection to working class people, but he had some really weird stances that he only seemed to double down on. Posted by: McAdams at December 01, 2014 04:11 PM (4a2Pr) 343
Bonk, bonk on the head! Bonk! Bonk!
Posted by: Feral Black Chill'uns That Hate White Gr'ups at December 01, 2014 04:13 PM (nbGZj) 344
He said as much in 2008, in a brief moment of candor.
It might have been brief, but it was there for all to see...if they had bothered to pay attention. Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 02, 2014 03:33 AM (9srI4) Processing 0.03, elapsed 0.046 seconds. |
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