Veterans' Day 2014

To everyone who has ever worn the uniform, "thank you" doesn't seem like nearly enough, but we're saying it today anyway.

And contra the rambling mindthoughts of some hipster doofus carnival barker standing outside the circus tent of fail known as Salon.com, each and every one of you who served honorably is a hero.

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Fittingly, George W. Bush's new book, 41: A Portrait of My Father, was released today.

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Posted by: Andy at 06:33 AM




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1 Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 11, 2014 06:35 AM (V70Uh)

2 Amen, Andy.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 11, 2014 06:35 AM (wVWRM)

3
A very happy Veteran's Day with a special shout-out to the 27th Infantry Division (my late uncle's) and the 11th Armored Division (liberators of Mauthausen).

G-d bless you all.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 06:37 AM (CMkNk)

4 Wow Andy sneeks in early and I am late.



Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, November 11, 2014 Veterans Dayl




Too bad I have no Hooters around here.



http://is.gd/0m0I6J

Posted by: P. Cline at November 11, 2014 06:39 AM (u9gzs)

5 BTW, be sure to put your flag out this morning.

Posted by: P. Cline at November 11, 2014 06:41 AM (u9gzs)

6

DAY 735

728 to go (801 to Inauguration Day 2017)


Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 06:42 AM (CMkNk)

7 Mornin', fappers! Profound gratitude to all our vets!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 11, 2014 06:43 AM (mx5oN)

8


Here's the film of Geo H.W. Bush getting rescued by a sub after bailing out of that Avenger

http://youtu.be/om4u_DxyJxE

Amazing that there was a guy with a motion picture camera on that sub to capture future POTUS 41

Posted by: kilo6 at November 11, 2014 06:45 AM (/xCkt)

9 To our Vets- thanks for giving us America!

Posted by: MTF at November 11, 2014 06:45 AM (TcePY)

10 Nice picture....

we are not allowed to name our vehicles anymore...

no personalizing the equipment...can't humiliate the opfor....

BUT I'll bet the Veterans community gets to vote when they're dead in Chicago...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at November 11, 2014 06:46 AM (/4AZU)

11 Amen.

Proud to be the cousin of two airmen and a Marine, granddaughter of a soldier and a Coastie, and friend to many veterans from all the branches. We're the land of the free because of the brave, and I hope we never forget that.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at November 11, 2014 06:47 AM (iuQS7)

12 I've decided in a simple rule: anything the Progs want, do the opposite. Success, peace and plenty will surely follow.

Posted by: MTF at November 11, 2014 06:48 AM (TcePY)

13 This is one "holiday" that should be observed 365 days a year. Except during years when it should be observed for 366 days. Never forget that we owe veterans thanks for...everything. But I'm preaching to the choir here.

O/T, but I am damn curious: does anyone know anything about that costume Choom Boy is/was wearing while sucking up to the Heathen Chinee? Looks like the outfits those "Heaven's Gate" wackos were sporting before they offed themselves....


Posted by: MrScribbler at November 11, 2014 06:48 AM (PoKIA)

14 Morning fellow vets. 20 yr veteran of 2d Ranger Bn(A). and 10th SFG(A) and 96th Civil Affairs Bn(A) and never fired my weapon in combat. Oh but we trained to be ready. Train, train, train, runnin' all day long.

Hooah!

Posted by: sawhorse at November 11, 2014 06:53 AM (jm3+c)

15 TFG is a better GOP national chairman than Prince. Here's proof: the GOP reversed two generations of losses at the state legislative level.


http://bit.ly/1xeMDOQ

Posted by: MTF at November 11, 2014 06:54 AM (TcePY)

16 Thanks to all our veterans, especially those in the Red Arrow Brigade.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 11, 2014 06:55 AM (3B+O8)

17 Thank you to all those who have served and serve now.


In awesome news, not only did my state representative here in Texas file a bill to get rid of in-state tuition for illegals, he's also filing a Constitutional Carry bill.

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 11, 2014 06:56 AM (FZxI4)

18 :salute:

Posted by: trailortrash at November 11, 2014 06:58 AM (xllDV)

19 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.
John 15:12-13

For those who put themselves at mortal risk for this country and all she stands for, for principles of human dignity, even for families and generations not yet born, no words of gratitude could serve well enough.

Thank you.

Posted by: mindful webworker at November 11, 2014 06:58 AM (bVtr0)

20 Thank you, Vets!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:00 AM (odIDF)

21 Thanks to all the Vets for their service.

My father and my uncles all did their best as young Jewish men to stop Hitler, and my Presbyterian uncle served in the Navy was well

In today's Upper Room Daily Devotional a former Marine writes about "soul rest.":

http://tinyurl.com/nqpdpuc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 11, 2014 07:07 AM (QlprU)

22 Have a good day, 'rons.

Posted by: DangerGirl at November 11, 2014 07:08 AM (FZxI4)

23 De-lurking to express my eternal gratitude to those who have served in the finest military in human history.

Posted by: hoosierma at November 11, 2014 07:09 AM (7b7uD)

24 To everyone who has ever worn the uniform, "thank you" doesn't seem like nearly enough, but we're saying it today anyway.


Amen. Thank you.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2014 07:11 AM (4Ofi/)

25 The folks at Salon are the first ones to dive under a desk and yell "Call the Marines!"

Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 07:12 AM (MQEz6)

26 DangerGirl: Among the other joys in voting this year, two items, homestead exemptions for vets and spouses. Checked yes on those with more enthusiasm than the Republican straight ticket.

I should salute my Uncle Ed, who marched across the mud and mire of Europe, and was preparing for the invasion of Japan. Thanks to Nuclear Science! he lives today, to see generations of descendants raised in peace and prosperity. God bless you, Ed, and thanks for being the grandfather my kids never had.

Also honor to my grandfathers and grand-uncles who served in WWI, including Ed's father, who never fully recovered from a whiff of mustard gas.

Posted by: mindful webworker at November 11, 2014 07:13 AM (b0NwW)

27 The folks at Salon are the first ones to dive under a desk and yell "Call the Marines!"



"I'm sorry. No one is available to take your call. Everyone is in mandatory diversity training. Please call back next week."

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2014 07:15 AM (4Ofi/)

28 " "thank you" doesn't seem like nearly enough, but we're saying it today anyway.
"


No, it doesn't. Too early in the morning to get emotional. Dammit. Must be this front coming in.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:16 AM (odIDF)

29 Happy Veterans Day to my uncles from WW2 who have passed on but inspired me to enlist and all Vets who have ever served. Veterans are the one thing that can never waver my faith in America. May God Bless one and all. Why isn't today a national holiday?

Posted by: dartist at November 11, 2014 07:17 AM (ahBY0)

30 No, it doesn't. Too early in the morning to get emotional. Dammit. Must be this front coming in.



Cold as a mother-in-law's love.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2014 07:18 AM (4Ofi/)

31
As horrible as WWI was, most who served and their families, did not see their sacrifices as wasted. This was the lefty poets and commies who, as they always do, rewrote the narrative.

Posted by: The Progs at November 11, 2014 07:18 AM (iQIUe)

32 Seconded, respectfully and emphatically!

Posted by: goon at November 11, 2014 07:18 AM (gNTQS)

33 There's a nice story about five threads down over at Weasel Zippers on Joni Earnst, and how she spent the aftermath of her election in Iowa. Hint: think National Guard duty.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 11, 2014 07:19 AM (3B+O8)

34 Dead vets have the same rights as any other dead Chicagoan.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at November 11, 2014 07:19 AM (G8NCu)

35 Why isn't today a national holiday?



Is in my city. City gov is shut down today.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2014 07:20 AM (4Ofi/)

36 To all our vets:

Thank you for your service. I am grateful for your sacrifice.

Posted by: hadoop at November 11, 2014 07:20 AM (2X7pN)

37
Yes, thank you.

I'll call my dad today. He's been hanging with his submarine buddies this past week.

My flag is hanging.


McCain's new book also released today:

Thirteen Soldiers: A Personal History of Americans at War

John McCain's evocative history of Americans at war, told through the personal accounts of thirteen remarkable soldiers who fought in major military conflicts, from the Revolutionary War of 1776 to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 11, 2014 07:22 AM (IXrOn)

38 "Why isn't today a national holiday?"

Well, good question.


Had three uncles in the war. Two fought the hardest, roughest, meanest, fight across the wide Pacific. The other took a German grenade right in the ass in France.

One of the uncles showed me a gold-filled tooth they would bust out of the dead Japanese. Everybody did it. And they'd do it to you.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:22 AM (odIDF)

39 4th Infantry Division

Past, present, and future.

pic of me and my battles in link.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at November 11, 2014 07:24 AM (OsWis)

40 Here's a job for the GOP in January.

Veterans get vouchers for care in any and every hospital and the VA gets reamed, steamed, and dry-cleaned.

Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 07:25 AM (MQEz6)

41 Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.
In fact, it's cold as Hell.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at November 11, 2014 07:25 AM (lG2E3)

42 why yes, I would totes stump for Allen West.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at November 11, 2014 07:26 AM (OsWis)

43 "Why isn't today a national holiday?"

Of all days, this should be the one that everything is closed, including stores. People really need to reflect.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 11, 2014 07:26 AM (IXrOn)

44 @38

The Japanese did far worse.

Posted by: Gran at November 11, 2014 07:26 AM (LCIE3)

45 Google won a 60 year lease to Moffett Field in Mountain View for a paltry sum, including the exclusive right to use it's 1,000 acres for R&D space, home to private jets for Google's bigwigs and a private golf course. Is it any coincidence that Google recently displaced Goldman Sachs as the largest lobbying spender in Washington?

Unbelievable. What a scam.


http://tcrn.ch/1ytUGEr

Posted by: MTF at November 11, 2014 07:26 AM (TcePY)

46 Morning!

Thanks to all you vets.. I'm looking at a very old black and white picture of my father in uniform just before he set sail for north Africa as a tank gunner.

After they kicked Rommel's ass in No. Africa it was on to Italy. I have another picture of him and his crew with an Italian family.. all with big smiles.

Thanks to you all.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 11, 2014 07:27 AM (b/lt+)

47 @39

Thank you.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:27 AM (odIDF)

48 Last Sunday they aired the entire documentary by Ken Burns "The War". Even though I've seen most of it in parts, seeing each one back to back was even better. They should be showing it in schools.

Posted by: dartist at November 11, 2014 07:27 AM (ahBY0)

49
Here's the film of Geo H.W. Bush getting rescued by a sub after bailing out of that Avenger


Bill Clinton received a back injury after a chubby coed fell on him at a pot party at Oxford.

Barack has a nasty callous on his putting hand.

So many of our presidents have been 'in the shit,' as they say.

Posted by: --- at November 11, 2014 07:28 AM (MMC8r)

50 "Veterans get vouchers for care in any and every hospital and the VA gets reamed, steamed, and dry-cleaned."

It'll never happen. Insufficient opportunities for graft.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 11, 2014 07:28 AM (lG2E3)

51 "@38



The Japanese did far worse."


Yeah. It was bad. And worse happened for sure.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:28 AM (odIDF)

52 Why isn't today a national holiday?


The United States has no national holidays.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 11, 2014 07:28 AM (xq1UY)

53 50,

yup

Posted by: SMFH at it all at November 11, 2014 07:29 AM (OsWis)

54 My MIL was a very kindly, loving woman to everyone.
When her daughter became a single mom because her deadbeat husband took off, she had the rest of family living with her and she did a huge amount in raising her grandchildren. So in some cases- and probably not a few-a mothers in law's love is not cold at all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 11, 2014 07:30 AM (QlprU)

55 Just bought Bush's book.

Between that and Sharryl Attkinson's book, I'm set for the next month.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at November 11, 2014 07:30 AM (OsWis)

56 50 "Veterans get vouchers for care in any and every hospital and the VA gets reamed, steamed, and dry-cleaned."

It'll never happen. Insufficient opportunities for graft.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 11, 2014 07:28 AM (lG2E3)

Yes.

Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 07:31 AM (MQEz6)

57 The United States has no national holidays.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 11, 2014 07:28 AM (xq1UY)


Do tell.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 07:31 AM (V+kmg)

58 Thanks as well to the families that stay behind and wait, and hope and pray, then wait some more .

Posted by: grammie winger at November 11, 2014 07:34 AM (3B+O8)

59 Bill Clinton's dick got bent at the Battle of Kotex Ridge.

Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 07:34 AM (MQEz6)

60 Thanks to all our veterans, especially those in the Red Arrow Brigade Big Red One.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 11, 2014 06:55 AM (3B+O


FIFY ;-)

Many happy returns to you and your son.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 07:34 AM (V+kmg)

61 Thank you vets and happy Veteran's Day!

Special shout out to my old shipmates from USS Enterprise CVN-65 ("Big E") Reactor Dept. It was a privilege to serve under "Uncle Ronnie" (Reagan) as our CIC. Haze gray and underway!

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at November 11, 2014 07:35 AM (gfB4n)

62 Thank you vets for your limitless sacrifice to this great nation.

Thank you also to my dad (RIP) who left his hearing in the South Pacific in WWII yet still raised 7 kids.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at November 11, 2014 07:35 AM (PiGvm)

63 Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 07:34 AM (V+kmg)


Thank you Sean.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 11, 2014 07:36 AM (3B+O8)

64 "
Bill Clinton's dick got bent at the Battle of Kotex Ridge."


Heh. That was like a we ago.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:37 AM (odIDF)

65 @64



"Week"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:38 AM (odIDF)

66
My work had a breakfast for those that are veterans. It was pretty good. Gave us a little gift bag of stuff too.

I always feel a little embarrassed at veteran's day. I didn't really do much. the only thing I was in danger of was boredom as we went in circles on the USS Nimitz in the Gulf. I have far greater respect for the people on the front lines, compared to the twits I worked with. (Seriously, if those fuckers hadblown one more fuseby sprayingthe electrical socketswith a pressure washer one more time, there would've been blood.)

Posted by: nnptcgrad at November 11, 2014 07:38 AM (wrS2o)

67 My Dad served in Burma in WWII.

He flew supplies to the Chinese and other folks fighting the IJA.

C-47's vs. the Himalayas.

Not much margin for error.

As far as I know he only drew his sidearm once in order to gently persuade a Chinese fellow to get his shit out if the road so a convoy could keep moving.



Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 07:40 AM (MQEz6)

68 "Bill Clinton's dick got bent at the Battle of Kotex Ridge."



Bumper sticker material.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2014 07:40 AM (4Ofi/)

69 Thank you, all. Flags are out in the front and back yards.

Posted by: NCKate at November 11, 2014 07:40 AM (U98jm)

70 Bill Clinton's dick got bent at the Battle of Kotex Ridge.


I always thought it was the Battle of Hill 36D.

I learn something new everyday here!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 07:40 AM (V+kmg)

71 Amazing that there was a guy with a motion picture camera on that sub

This, evidenced by myriad documentaries on Those Channels, is a source of constant amazement to WWII veterans. My dad was a Battle Baby, and "The Last Man Out of Krinkelt" (TM). He has just about seen himself in the field any number of times, at a moment when, for a few hours, he was as alone as anyone in the war.

His comment is always sonof AY bitch. Where the Hell were these guys? We never saw 'em. Nobody in our outfit had a movie camera. Who took that movie?

He and I have about decided that it's all captured German footage...

Which in the case of Bush's sub, would speak highly of German cameramen.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 11, 2014 07:41 AM (xq1UY)

72 "C-47's vs. the Himalayas.
"


The "Hump."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:41 AM (odIDF)

73 Take this for what it's worth from a civilian:

/salutes respectfully

All of you...thank you.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at November 11, 2014 07:41 AM (m9V0o)

74 Veteran's Day IS a federal Holiday.

Posted by: P. Cline at November 11, 2014 07:42 AM (u9gzs)

75 Bill Clinton's dick got bent at the Battle of Kotex Ridge.


I always thought it was the Battle of Hill 36D.
I learn something new everyday here!


This here smart military blog is on top of it!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2014 07:42 AM (4Ofi/)

76 "As far as I know he only drew his sidearm once in order to gently
persuade a Chinese fellow to get his shit out if the road so a convoy
could keep moving.
"



And, "Please, Sir, do move out of the road. Thank you."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:44 AM (odIDF)

77 A federal holiday and a National Holiday are not the same thing. Youse could look it up, were youse so inclined.

Like 100% voter turnout, National Holidays are usually in honor of a Dear Leader. Be careful, in this life, what you wish for.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 11, 2014 07:45 AM (xq1UY)

78 I've never known how to respond to the "thank you"s that get voiced today (or on any day, really).

I did what was asked, when I was called (after 9/11, I dropped out of my senior year at Penn State to enlist as a rescue swimmer), and then got out to finish school.

I understand the gratitude, truly, I do. It's just uncomfortable actually facing someone expressing it...

Maybe that's just me.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 11, 2014 07:46 AM (Rz4ly)

79 67 My Dad served in Burma in WWII.

He flew supplies to the Chinese and other folks fighting the IJA.

C-47's vs. the Himalayas.

Not much margin for error.

As far as I know he only drew his sidearm once in order to gently persuade a Chinese fellow to get his shit out if the road so a convoy could keep moving.



Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 07:40 AM (MQEz6)
-------------
eman,
My dad was in the ACE in Burma and also "Flew the Hump". He told me we sold whole factories to the Chinese and the warlords would leave them on the side of the road, unassembled. Just having the materiel was a testament to their power. Fighting the Japanese was secondary to the internal warfare.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 11, 2014 07:47 AM (QBm1P)

80 Here's a photo of me and my submarine back in the day...since it's in dry dock you get a good feel for their actual size.

http://is.gd/7JCiul

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 11, 2014 07:49 AM (eBNjM)

81 Shit, way OT, thought I still had pizza, but I don't.


Space heaters are doing yeoman's work this morning.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 07:50 AM (odIDF)

82 Bill Clinton was cited for valor in the Battle of Kotex Ridge.

From his Citation.

"The Co-eds had formed a defensive perimeter around the coffee table and futon. Spotting a potential weakness in the line and with no regard for his safety, Private Clinton penetrated the perimeter with relentless smooth talk and witty jokes directed at Blonde One and Blonde Two. Maneuvering between them, Clinton drove a wedge into the perimeter allowing friendly forces to advance."

Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 07:51 AM (MQEz6)

83
Bill Clinton was a medic. He told Gennifer Flowers to put ice on that lip.

Great advice. Life saver.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 07:51 AM (CMkNk)

84 Real heros cry softly into their sweater while watching the rain.

Posted by: Totally Not Chris Hayes at November 11, 2014 07:52 AM (Nfdkj)

85
Actually Bill Clinton scored a direct hit with his Mk 1 Hillbilly Semen Projector.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 07:52 AM (CMkNk)

86 Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 11, 2014 07:46 AM

Nearsider, I always just reply with the truth, namely that it was an honor and a privilege to serve.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 11, 2014 07:54 AM (knoK7)

87 Happy Veterans Day!
I hope somebody punches Jane Fonda in the mouth today.

Posted by: jennytoyou at November 11, 2014 07:54 AM (DEniQ)

88 79 67 My Dad served in Burma in WWII.

He flew supplies to the Chinese and other folks fighting the IJA.

C-47's vs. the Himalayas.

Not much margin for error.

As far as I know he only drew his sidearm once in order to gently persuade a Chinese fellow to get his shit out if the road so a convoy could keep moving.



Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 07:40 AM (MQEz6)
-------------
eman,
My dad was in the ACE in Burma and also "Flew the Hump". He told me we sold whole factories to the Chinese and the warlords would leave them on the side of the road, unassembled. Just having the materiel was a testament to their power. Fighting the Japanese was secondary to the internal warfare.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 11, 2014 07:47 AM (QBm1P)

High five!

Yeah, I wonder how much blood and treasure was dumped down a hole.

Actually, best not to know.

Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 07:54 AM (MQEz6)

89 I lurk, and have been locked out of comments forever, so imagine my joy (thank you, Pixy!) to learn that the problem has been fixed. So glad it's today, when I can say THANK YOU to all serving and have served. That includes my darling nephew who served in Fallujah and my father who fought in WWII and was in the unit first over the bridge at Remagen into Germany. Two of the finest men it has been my privilege to know.
Thank you again, for all you have done and still do to keep our country and its people safe.

Posted by: Biblio at November 11, 2014 07:54 AM (7o8VY)

90 O/T, but I am damn curious: does anyone know anything about that costume Choom Boy is/was wearing while sucking up to the Heathen Chinee? Looks like the outfits those "Heaven's Gate" wackos were sporting before they offed themselves....


I think it is traditional (Well, Qing Dynasty) Chinese male costume.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 11, 2014 07:55 AM (ysjk/)

91
Levin was en fuego yesterday. Totally napalmed Gruber, read an emotional segment from Martin Greenfield's "Measure of a Man" and had an extensive interview with Sharyl Atkisson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 07:55 AM (CMkNk)

92 My mom and I dropped off 5 large bags full of clothes and toiletries yesterday at a collection point for homeless vets. The clothes were my dad's, himself a 20 year vet, who just won't be needing them any more.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 11, 2014 07:57 AM (TjHOJ)

93 Bill Clinton was a medic. He told Gennifer Flowers to put ice on that lip.



At least he wasn't a coach and told her to rub some dirt on it.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2014 07:58 AM (4Ofi/)

94 I understand the gratitude, truly, I do. It's just uncomfortable actually facing someone expressing it...

Maybe that's just me.

And me, but it's one of the reasons I'm not liking the vouchers for any hospital thing. In my experience, there is far more respect for patients at the VA than any of the hospitals around here. If they would truly get rid of the thieves in management and let nurses and docs do their jobs, treatment would be much better for everyone. IMHO from my experiences only.

Posted by: dartist at November 11, 2014 07:58 AM (ahBY0)

95 I think it is traditional (Well, Qing Dynasty) Chinese male costume.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 11, 2014 07:55 AM


In that case, not sure Choom Boy is qualified to wear it....

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 11, 2014 07:59 AM (PoKIA)

96 A blessed Veterans Day to all those who put it all on the line for us and to their families who sacrifice so they may do so

A special thank you to my Dad, God Bless him, a marine who earned the Purple Heart in two tours in Vietnam
I miss you Daddy.

And Happy Birthday to my grandfather, who was so proud of this country and the liberty we stand for.

Posted by: ginaswo at November 11, 2014 07:59 AM (+X1qa)

97 My Army experience was a mix of Hogan's Heroes and F-Troop, for the most part. Two years on a one Unit base at the top of a cliff overlooking a perfect German town. Maybe twice a year we'd have someone above LTC on post, the rest of the time we were in our own little world. Also, we were the only MLRS unit in Germany at the time, so nobody knew what the hell we should be doing, so they just assumed we were doing everything right.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2014 07:59 AM (2cS/G)

98 Loved Megyn Kelly's Freudian slip: Mike Fuckabee.

So true.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 08:00 AM (CMkNk)

99 I heart Fuckabee.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at November 11, 2014 08:02 AM (Cdl5U)

100 Happy Veteran's Day

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 114 days until spring training at November 11, 2014 08:02 AM (u8GsB)

101 Good Morning,
God Bless our Veterans!

A few weeks ago I was out & came home to find a message looking for my late father, the man mentioned 334th (I have note but can't find it right now) in Germany in 1945. It was late & I called man the next day & left him a message that my father passed away in 1988. He called me back & I asked if he had served in the Army with my father, but he had not. He was looking for pictures of when the Germans surrendered to the U.S. & he said some had cameras & had pictures of Nazi planes flying in to surrender.

That call finally prompted me to ask my older brother if my father had seen the camps & he had.

My brother told me I have to watch Band of Brothers because it's very close to stories my father told him about the war.

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 08:03 AM (sj3Ax)

102
Quite a bit to like about Megyn Kelly.

But remember - behind every woman, no matter how hot, is some poor SOB just sick of putting up with her shit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 11, 2014 08:03 AM (PFjNT)

103 98 Loved Megyn Kelly's Freudian slip: Mike Fuckabee.

So true.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 08:00 AM (CMkNk)

who amongst us hasn't said it?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 114 days until spring training at November 11, 2014 08:03 AM (u8GsB)

104 To all who have served and are serving now, thank you.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at November 11, 2014 08:05 AM (mf5HN)

105 33
There's a nice story about five threads down over at Weasel Zippers on
Joni Earnst, and how she spent the aftermath of her election in Iowa.
Hint: think National Guard duty.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 11, 2014 07:19 AM (3B+O

****************************
At one point a few years ago (maybe 2011 or 2012) there were 5 Senators (or maybe members of Congress) on Reserve duty. They did their 2 weeks with ISAF HQ in Afghanistan during their recess. Although ISAF HQ was certainly not the most dangerous place in the country by any stretch of the imagination, at least they got into theater and saw something of how things were working so they were beter informed. I assume they got a bunch of high-level briefings and met some NATO allies as well as Afghans. Lindsey Graham was one of them. Don't think I ever knew who the other 4 were.

Posted by: Shareef at November 11, 2014 08:06 AM (5f5bM)

106 Off, sock!

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 11, 2014 08:06 AM (5f5bM)

107 87;

The fact we observe Veteran's day, and not communist day IS Jane Fonda's punch in the mouth.

Posted by: TheSev at November 11, 2014 08:07 AM (3Vv0F)

108 I say Fuckabee all the time. But then I am never in front of the TV camera, so I can allow myself bad habits.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 11, 2014 08:08 AM (V70Uh)

109 Heartfelt thanks to all of those who served and continue to serve and to my dad, who served in Germany during the reconstruction.

My husband and I strive to teach our daughter the many important history and civics concepts that are no longer taught in school. At the top of the list is how much we owe those who serve and the sacrifices they make to ensure our freedom.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at November 11, 2014 08:08 AM (54JS6)

110 103 who amongst us hasn't said it?
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 114 days until spring training at November 11, 2014 08:03 AM (u8GsB)


True, but my reach is only slightly larger than MSNBC, where as Megyn is heard by tens of thousands.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 08:09 AM (CMkNk)

111 BTW, be sure to put your flag out this morning.
Posted by: P. Cline
------------------

24, 7, lighted.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 11, 2014 08:10 AM (l1zOH)

112 101 My brother told me I have to watch Band of Brothers because it's very close to stories my father told him about the war.
Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 08:03 AM (sj3Ax)


Hi Carol. I'm no fan of Ken Burns' politics, but "The War" is very much worth watching. The experiences of the vets are just gut-wrenching.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 08:11 AM (CMkNk)

113 My Army experience was a mix of Hogan's Heroes and F-Troop, for the most part. .
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2014 07:59 AM (2cS/G)


Damn Redlegs. ;-)

Thank you.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 08:11 AM (V+kmg)

114 My brother told me I have to watch Band of Brothers because it's very close to stories my father told him about the war.
Posted by: Carol
------------------

Worth every minute.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 11, 2014 08:12 AM (l1zOH)

115 My professors at West Point were from classes in the 60s and 70s. I knew guys who had been spit on in the airport when they came back from Vietnam (anybody who says it didn't happen is a sad sack of shit). The stories they told of what the Army was like, and how they were treated - well, it wasn't pretty.

I cannot imagine what they think about how veterans are respected today. They must feel very gratified that the country has not forgotten, and goes out of their way to remember them. Bill Clinton - whatever else about the man - is on TV asking people to help vets get jobs.

Most days I think where are we going, and what are we doing in this handbasket?

But not today. Not today.

It was my honor to serve.

Posted by: blaster at November 11, 2014 08:13 AM (Rx8ML)

116
Okay, fellow babies. Check back later.

G-d bless all the veterans here and everywhere. It's your day - every day.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2014 08:13 AM (CMkNk)

117 g'mornin', 'ron

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 11, 2014 08:14 AM (2Ayux)

118 or " 'rons"

need moar kauphy

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 11, 2014 08:15 AM (2Ayux)

119 My pleasure.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2014 08:16 AM (2cS/G)

120 Big salute to all the vets.

*everyone stands up in the cornfield*

"Saaaalute!"

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 11, 2014 08:16 AM (M6Vhk)

121 Yay veterans past and present!!!

We are a grateful nation.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 11, 2014 08:18 AM (NeFrd)

122 Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell,
They that had fought so well
Came thro' the jaws of Death
Back from the mouth of Hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honor the charge they made,
Honor the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:19 AM (da5Wo)

123 I would like to thank our Commander and Chief Barack Obama on this Veterans Day. He has done tremendous work in extracting us from Bushes Wars in the Middle East and now we are free to send our Men and Women in the Military to important humanitarian missions around the world. Barack truly has their best interests at heart

Posted by: Samuel Oliver Caleb Kingsley at November 11, 2014 08:19 AM (jucos)

124 Heh, nonetheless. Thanks, Lincolntf.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:19 AM (odIDF)

125 Posted by: blaster at November 11, 2014 08:13 AM

When did you graduate, blaster?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 11, 2014 08:20 AM (knoK7)

126 Thanks for the Flag reminder.

Salutes around!...

Posted by: 1C1 nee 272, now 2152 at November 11, 2014 08:20 AM (4DCSq)

127 124 Heh, nonetheless. Thanks, Lincolntf.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:19 AM (odIDF)



Ricardo! You get your bewb fix last night in the ONT?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:20 AM (da5Wo)

128 @125 - late 80's.

Posted by: blaster at November 11, 2014 08:21 AM (Rx8ML)

129 There I was. In the shit. Up to my knees in resined-up bongs and copies of Mao's Little Red Book. All I had was a phone, a pen, and the will to survive.

Posted by: Generalissimo Barack Obama at November 11, 2014 08:21 AM (DrWcr)

130 Some poor SOB went into a Bobby Flay joint, and asked the waitress for her rec. for a bottle of wine. She produced one, and the guy asked her how much. She replied "37.50."
He got a bill for over 4K.
It sounds like he argued it down to 2K. I would have said f-off. Let missy here work it off.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 11, 2014 08:22 AM (5buP8)

131 I did my (short) time in another country's military (RCAF) many decades ago, but as a fairly new American would like to offer my salute to the US military. Especially my two stepsons and FIL (deceased). RIP Ira.

Posted by: WingNut at November 11, 2014 08:23 AM (gpoVQ)

132 My Dad was in the Field Artillery at Anzio. He buzzed St. Peter's Basilica (no fly zone) in an observation plane the day after Rome was liberated from the Nazis, during the pope's address. Oddly enough, he never told us kids about that incident.

He also never talked about seeing the death camps, though I believe he did. Oddly enough his diary dropped off to almost nothing after they entered Germany. Will probably never know why. May have been because they were moving pretty darn fast at that stage of the war, may have been something else.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 11, 2014 08:23 AM (NeFrd)

133 @125 - late 80's.

Posted by: blaster at November 11, 2014 08:21 AM


Would've just missed you, then. Early 90's here.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 11, 2014 08:23 AM (knoK7)

134 Mike Hammer,
Band of Brothers is on HBO on demand until January 1, 2016.

I'll watch an episode tomorrow.
I've seen parts of it, but when it was already on & never at the beginning.

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 08:25 AM (sj3Ax)

135 "You get your bewb fix last night in the ONT?"


The bra model? Or did I miss something? Because I do miss things.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:25 AM (odIDF)

136 Dad - USAAF, WWII
Me - Army, Cold War
Son - Nuclear Officer, USN

So, we've managed to go air, land and sea. Guess a grandkid needs to come along and be a space cadet or something.

Happy Veterans Day, all.

Posted by: Timothy Fountain at November 11, 2014 08:25 AM (3r2wi)

137 Constantine's Basilica.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 11, 2014 08:25 AM (Cdl5U)

138 The bra model? Or did I miss something? Because I do miss things.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:25 AM (odIDF)


Ha!

I assume you mean the Ette that posted hers with the cupcake.

And I posted a link to a series of Jennifer Lawrence gifs.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:26 AM (da5Wo)

139 America:

Home of the free because of the brave.

Heartfelt thanks to all you lovable lugs (and luggetts) who serve or served.

Posted by: Lloyd Loar at November 11, 2014 08:27 AM (TaO1J)

140 "WingNut"



You Canuckistanian?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:27 AM (odIDF)

141 135 "You get your bewb fix last night in the ONT?"


The bra model? Or did I miss something? Because I do miss things.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:25 AM (odIDF)

They were real. And they were spectacular.

Posted by: Generalissimo Barack Obama at November 11, 2014 08:27 AM (DrWcr)

142 On Veterans Day out here in bat country, they set off a 7- round cannon salute at 0600 every year to wake the heathen civilians. There was a malfunction this year with only 4 getting fired and only one report from the first shell's detonation. Faulty ammunition is my guess.

I consider it an ill omen.

Posted by: What rock doth yonder window break? at November 11, 2014 08:27 AM (LfWon)

143 When can their glory fade?

O the wild charge they made!

All the world wondered.

Honor the charge they made,

Honor the Light Brigade,

Noble six hundred.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:19 AM (da5Wo)

BC, that poem was in our English book back when I was in grade school in around 1970.
What do you think the chances are that ANY grade school kid would see that poem now? It really grinds my gears.

THANK YOU VETERANS. THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 11, 2014 08:27 AM (wtvvX)

144 I would like to thank the US 89th ID that liberated my Father in Law from Buchenwald. His association and work with his American Liberators allowed him to eventually immigrate to the US to become an American. The best gift that he could have ever been given came from the US and it's military. Thank you Veterans. Please allow yourselves to enjoy being honored. What you do for us is truly remarkable

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 11, 2014 08:28 AM (jucos)

145 Lindsey Graham was one of them. Don't think I ever knew who the other 4 were.


Posted by: Shareef at November 11, 2014 08:06 AM (5f5bM)


Graham was a JAG. A damn lawyer who IIANM his only overseas service was in Germany as an adviser on military law.

Posted by: Vic at November 11, 2014 08:29 AM (u9gzs)

146 Out damned sock!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 11, 2014 08:29 AM (DrWcr)

147 We had that Edna St. Vincent Millay thing in our Literature book in grade school in the late 70's. We also had Van Gogh plates in the back.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 11, 2014 08:30 AM (Cdl5U)

148 BC, that poem was in our English book back when I was in grade school in around 1970.
What do you think the chances are that ANY grade school kid would see that poem now? It really grinds my gears.

THANK YOU VETERANS. THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 11, 2014 08:27 AM (wtvvX)



I never saw it until I was an adult. It's one of my favorite poems. Maybe my favorite.

And yes, as others have said, "thanks" isn't near enough but it's all I've got and I give it freely and sincerely.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:30 AM (da5Wo)

149 Morning all.

Today I remember my Father: LT. Colonel Nevergiveup US Army Attached to the 4th Marines Iwo Jima 476th Amphibian Truck Company

And If you catch the NYC Parade today look for a "average size" ok some would say short Commander USN marching up 5th Ave. representing NOSC NYC and Portsmouth Naval Hospital

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2014 08:30 AM (M0mf2)

150 "Why isn't today a national holiday?"

I always feel weird making a big deal out of today because I feel like making an ostentatious public display today is for other people to see how much you care, but what you do the other 364 days a year is the real thing (I feel the same way about Valentine's Day).

It's probably good to have one public day so people who didn't grow up around veterans or have any in their families can get some f'n knowledge. But really, it should be a year-round thing.

Posted by: HR at November 11, 2014 08:30 AM (hO8IJ)

151
Today, I held in my hands and read the sheet of paper upon which was
printed my Grandfather's original Invasion letter from Eisenhower.

Remember today that the old men you see driving too slowly,
misunderstanding (and perhaps disliking) how the world has changed
around them and needing help to walk or hear were tigers seventy years
ago.
They freed a continent and stopped a genocide, in many
cases before they were old enough to have finished college or drink a
beer.
They faced the worst humanity had to offer and emerged not unscathed, but victorious.
Happy Veteran's Day to those who lend perspective to our daily struggles, if we'll let them.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 11, 2014 08:31 AM (Rz4ly)

152 Is today the day we honor douchebag Salon bloggers?

Posted by: --- at November 11, 2014 08:31 AM (MMC8r)

153 And If you catch the NYC Parade today look for a "average size" ok some would say short Commander USN marching up 5th Ave. representing NOSC NYC and Portsmouth Naval Hospital
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2014 08:30 AM (M0mf2)


It's not the size of the man in the fight it's the size of the fight in the man.

::: fist bump :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 08:32 AM (V+kmg)

154 Is today the day we honor douchebag Salon bloggers?

Posted by: --- at November 11, 2014 08:31 AM (MMC8r)

****

Ignore that loser.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 11, 2014 08:32 AM (NeFrd)

155 And I posted a link to a series of Jennifer Lawrence gifs.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:26 AM (da5Wo)

Definitely one of your more marginally honorable actions of late!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 11, 2014 08:33 AM (F2IAQ)

156 I think J.J. Sefton left, but I saw his comment to watch Ken Burns. I'll see if it's on demand.

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 08:33 AM (sj3Ax)

157 "They were real. And they were spectacular."



Ah, shit. Went back and looked and I still don't find them. Oh, well, I am kinda dumb.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:34 AM (odIDF)

158 152 Is today the day we honor douchebag Salon bloggers?
Posted by: --- at November 11, 2014 08:31 AM (MMC8r)

I say we give them as much regard as we would a festering pile of elephant shit. Maybe a bit less.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 11, 2014 08:35 AM (DrWcr)

159 Is today the day we honor douchebag Salon bloggers?

Posted by: --- at November 11, 2014 08:31 AM (MMC8r)


It is human nature to mock things we fear or do not understand.

In his case, he doesn't understand reality.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 08:36 AM (V+kmg)

160 "Band of Brothers is on HBO on demand until January 1, 2016."


Carol, watch.


Have something to wipe your eyes with handy. You won't regret or forget.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:36 AM (odIDF)

161 It's probably good to have one public day so people who didn't grow up around veterans or have any in their families can get some f'n knowledge. But really, it should be a year-round thing.

Posted by: HR at November 11, 2014 08:30 AM (hO8IJ)



You're right and I think that's true of almost all holidays. We should be thankful year round. We should celebrate the birth and the resurrection of Christ year round. We should show our significant others how much we love them year round. We should take pride in the founding of this country year round.

But I think it's good to have a single day to crystallize those thoughts and emotions. A day for us to not just live it as individuals, but to celebrate it as a nation.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:36 AM (da5Wo)

162 Graham was a JAG. A damn lawyer who IIANM his only overseas service was in Germany as an adviser on military law.


Posted by: Vic at November 11, 2014 08:29 AM (u9gzs)

**************************
Well, credit where it's due, especially on Veterans' Day. They could have done their 2 weeks in the Pentagon.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 11, 2014 08:37 AM (5f5bM)

163 How many people will Google infect with Ebola for $1?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 11, 2014 08:37 AM (Cdl5U)

164 Let me be clear. Back when I was dating composite white women in college, I uh, took part in some, uh, protests against the glorification of the military.

But, uh, let's be clear, I have , um, evolved on this issue.

Is that OK, Val? Can I hit the links now?

Posted by: Teh Won at November 11, 2014 08:38 AM (7ObY1)

165 My daughter learned the official armed forces service songs in choir in second grade at the local public school. She has PT from time to time during PE led by some of the local service personnel. She loves it. Her plan is to be a veterinarian in the military when she grows up. School is closed today in honor of Veterans Day.
I love small town Texas.

Posted by: DrC at November 11, 2014 08:38 AM (XRYHY)

166 In his case, he doesn't understand reality.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 08:36 AM (V+kmg)

Like most liberals, he can't comprehend that reality might, just might, get in the way of his grand plans for the universe, and worse yet, that reality is a stone cold bitch!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 11, 2014 08:38 AM (F2IAQ)

167 My father was shot down over Italy, captured and was at Stalag Luft I and IV. They had a cup of potatoes and a cup of tea a day. They would not send them home until they gained weight fearing the travel would harm them. May God forgive the writer at Salon.

Posted by: Tj at November 11, 2014 08:39 AM (FBjP7)

168 Graham was a JAG. A damn lawyer who IIANM his only overseas service was in Germany as an adviser on military law.


Posted by: Vic at November 11, 2014 08:29 AM (u9gzs)

**************************
Well, credit where it's due, especially on Veterans' Day. They could have done their 2 weeks in the Pentagon.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 11, 2014 08:37 AM (5f5bM)


hey I dislike Graham, but he choose to put on a Uniform and I am not going to disparage him for that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2014 08:39 AM (M0mf2)

169 At least elephant dung would be good for something after composting.

Posted by: DJ_sock_rat_eez at November 11, 2014 08:39 AM (T+Chm)

170 That robot on Drudge seems to be learning crane.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 11, 2014 08:39 AM (Cdl5U)

171 Carrol, I agree with Sefton on "The War". The interviews with actual Vets and war footage are pretty impressive.

Posted by: dartist at November 11, 2014 08:40 AM (ahBY0)

172 May God forgive the writer at Salon.
Posted by: Tj at November 11, 2014 08:39 AM (FBjP7)

G-D might, but I will not!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2014 08:40 AM (M0mf2)

173 "My father was shot down over Italy, captured and was at Stalag Luft I and IV."



Bless him, Tj. God, what stories he must have had.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:40 AM (odIDF)

174 Morning Bannion! A sincere thank you to you and Nearsider and all the Moron vets.

Found out something interesting not long ago. I have Army in my family. One of my great grandfathers was a Capt in the Army in WWI. Cavalry. Which back then, of course, still meant actually on horseback. Served in France. (Good lord did he hate them when he came back.) Apparently his responsibility was munitions. He was in charge of the mule train and the soldiers who took munitions to the front lines.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:40 AM (da5Wo)

175 WingNut"

You Canuckistanian?

that ... and became an American in time to vote again TFG in '12

Posted by: WingNut at November 11, 2014 08:41 AM (gpoVQ)

176 WingNut"

You Canuckistanian?

that ... and became an American in time to vote again TFG in '12

Posted by: WingNut at November 11, 2014 08:41 AM (gpoVQ)

177 A special shout out to Hunter Biden on Veteran's Day! Those who snort also serve.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2014 08:41 AM (2cS/G)

178 I want more stories, but go get some free food.
http://is.gd/Anodtq

Posted by: HR at November 11, 2014 08:41 AM (hO8IJ)

179 Her plan is to be a veterinarian in the military when she grows up. School is closed today in honor of Veterans Day.
I love small town Texas.
Posted by: DrC at November 11, 2014 08:38 AM (XRYHY)


When the time comes...MAKE SURE she does NOT talk to an Army recruiter.

Make sure she talks to a Army HEALTH SERVICES recruiter.

They're different, and she'll get exactly what she wants. With a regular recruiter....ummm....not so much.

They are very persuasive.

Which is how I ended up enlisting in the Infantry initially.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 08:41 AM (V+kmg)

180 Is today the day we honor douchebag Salon bloggers?



Sixth Sunday of every month.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2014 08:41 AM (4Ofi/)

181 Marching up 5th Ave is really a great day. Get to spend time with guys and gals in my Unit and also meet many of the old Vets who are just great to meet and talk to. Especially the really old ones. It means so much to them. It's such a great Honor to talk to them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2014 08:42 AM (M0mf2)

182 "and became an American in time to vote again TFG in '12"


What you do in the RCAF? And, congrats on the move south.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:42 AM (odIDF)

183 The hilarious thing about the Salon writer is how spectacularly douchey he looks and how so many people focused on that. It probably killed him to know all his carefully planned affectations were laughed at endlessly.

Idiot.

Posted by: seems legit at November 11, 2014 08:42 AM (A98Xu)

184 A special shout out to Hunter Biden on Veteran's Day! Those who snort also serve.
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2014 08:41 AM (2cS/G)


Thanks. Thank a lot.

Fun fact: French Roast burns a little bit more than Breakfast Blend when it shoots out of your nose.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 08:42 AM (V+kmg)

185 Why didn't Hunter stick with glue like his old man?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 11, 2014 08:44 AM (Cdl5U)

186 Dammit, I got shit banging around. Not in the good way.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:44 AM (odIDF)

187 But I think it's good to have a single day to crystallize those thoughts and emotions. A day for us to not just live it as individuals, but to celebrate it as a nation.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:36 AM (da5Wo)

I was going to write a Barky snark in response, but decided not on this day!

A shared day of celebration as a nation is exactly what we need to bind us together, especially when if it causes us to pause for a minute or two and reflect on the sacrifices made to keep us free from the enemies that would willingly do us great harm.

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 11, 2014 08:44 AM (F2IAQ)

188 hipster doofus carnival barker

That's hipster douchebag doofus carnival barker douchebag to you, sir.

Posted by: David Masciotra at November 11, 2014 08:45 AM (Dwehj)

189 Oddly enough, Google has a Veteran's Day themed picture on their home page.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 11, 2014 08:46 AM (NeFrd)

190 In his case, he doesn't understand reality.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 08:36 AM (V+kmg)

I disagree. The writer understands why we honor those who serve. He made a conscious decision to mock the concept of self-defense, the martial spirit within a culture, the men whose choose to sublimate their own desires to protect others....

He isn't ignorant....he is evil.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2014 08:46 AM (Zu3d9)

191 Ah, nothing like taking that first gulp of coffee

...and pouring it on yourself because you didn't put the lid tightly on the travel mug.

Maybe I can write an article for Salon on how it was JUST LIKE combat or something.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 08:46 AM (0xTsz)

192 Washington Nearsider.
That comment was perfect about old men now who were the Tigers that saved a continent.

We must respect our elders. I was brought up to respect them, kids today, not so much.

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 08:47 AM (sj3Ax)

193 "Idiot."



Fuck him. I know we're not supposed to say "fuck" here anymore.


So fcuk him.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:48 AM (odIDF)

194 He isn't ignorant....he is evil.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2014 08:46 AM (Zu3d9)



He's a whiny little bitch crying for attention.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:48 AM (da5Wo)

195 Obligatory on this day:

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Posted by: joncelli at November 11, 2014 08:48 AM (RD7QR)

196 I disagree. The writer understands why we honor those who serve. He made a conscious decision to mock the concept of self-defense, the martial spirit within a culture, the men whose choose to sublimate their own desires to protect others....

He isn't ignorant....he is evil.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2014 08:46 AM (Zu3d9)


We'll disagree.

I think he's like most typical liberals, ignorant, closed-minded and intolerant. He doesn't understand the things you mention because he has been told since he was an infant that they're icky and not worthy of examining. Nor are his biases worth examining from time to time because (to him) they are so self-evidently correct. He has never once in his entire cosseted life ever been asked to examine a single assumption he's ever had.

Ergo, my point stands. He doesn't understand anything he's taking about and doesn't want to.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 08:49 AM (V+kmg)

197 I haven't served but Dad did in the Korean War (USAF) and my uncle was an engineer in the ETO. God bless all who served.

Posted by: joncelli at November 11, 2014 08:49 AM (RD7QR)

198
Many thank veterans for their sacrifices, but few if any thank the American taxpayer for funding our medical care. As a recipient of fantastic VA cancer care, I thank one and all for the opportunity to live longer and witness another Veteran's Day. Thank you one and all. All is well!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 11, 2014 08:50 AM (3/wAJ)

199 (Good lord did he hate them when he came back.)

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:40 AM (da5Wo)

Horses? The French? Both?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 11, 2014 08:50 AM (GDulk)

200 Ah, nothing like taking that first gulp of coffee
...and pouring it on yourself because you didn't put the lid tightly on the travel mug.

Maybe I can write an article for Salon on how it was JUST LIKE combat or something.
Posted by: Mama AJ



Titled: Incoming!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2014 08:50 AM (4Ofi/)

201 "Oddly enough, Google has a Veteran's Day themed picture on their home page"


They do.



And Bing which has been so much better than Google on dates like this.............has a castle?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:50 AM (odIDF)

202 What you do in the RCAF? And, congrats on the move south.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:42 AM (odIDF)

well, after they discovered I was nearsighted AND colorblind ... limiting my choices - Medic.

Posted by: WingNut at November 11, 2014 08:51 AM (gpoVQ)

203 I never really got over sharting myself in front of everybody in Mrs. McGillicuddy's 4th grade Christmas pageant. Sigh.

Posted by: David Masciotra at November 11, 2014 08:51 AM (Dwehj)

204 Good morning, smart military pixels. Thank you to all who have served.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 11, 2014 08:51 AM (JtwS4)

205 201 With a moat full of poppies. Click on some things.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 11, 2014 08:52 AM (Cdl5U)

206 A by-product of some recent Army buddy get-togethers has been the reliving of forgotten stories. One example, this summer a bunch of us got together at the Cape. One guy showed up on his motorcycle, and I was checking it out. I told him that I had never set foot on a motorcycle, and that I was sure I would wipe out if I ever tried. Half an hour later, my buddy Joe calls me over to where everyone is sitting around looking at photo albums and asks me pointedly..."Lincolntf, have you ever ridden a motorcycle in your life?'". I started answering "No way, I'd kill myself on one of those things..." and everyone started cracking up laughing. There, right on the picnic table, is a photo of us at a bonfire with some of the German locals, and I'm smack in the middle of the picture, behind the group, shirtless, whizzing by on a motorbike. One heckuva party, they tell me.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2014 08:52 AM (2cS/G)

207 Thanks to all who served and are serving.

Even my husband, despite the snarky email he just sent me.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 08:52 AM (0xTsz)

208 179
She'd make a pretty good 11A or 11B. She is 8 years old and can do 10 good push-ups. Right now she is happy to have a pair of BDU's that fit fairly well that were given to her by the diminutive little captain across the street. She wears them on career day.

Posted by: DrC at November 11, 2014 08:52 AM (XRYHY)

209 Ergo, my point stands. He doesn't understand anything he's taking about and doesn't want to.

Evil, willfully stupid, either way undeserving of the sacrifices of others. Honestly I'm done distinguishing, but then I never claimed to be a terribly good person myself.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Corrective Phrenologist at November 11, 2014 08:52 AM (naUcP)

210 Horses? The French? Both?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 11, 2014 08:50 AM (GDulk)



Lol. The French. He loved horses and the outdoors period. After he came back, he ended up working as a hunt guide up in Canada for a while.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:52 AM (da5Wo)

211 So, Glenn Beck is once AGAIN dying of a horrible disease. ZOMG he really means it this time guyz!.

And there are gullible people who still fall for this huckster's shizzle.

Generallisimo Francisco Franco in reverse.

This just in: Glenn Beck is still alive.

Posted by: Guy Who Doesn't Give a Shit at November 11, 2014 08:52 AM (7ObY1)

212 "has a castle"


Apologies.


Tower of London poppy field.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:53 AM (odIDF)

213 USS Nitro. 1971-72
USS Luce 72-75
USS Canopus. 75-76

I had a lot of fun and some damn hard times. Volunteer not drafted. To all other vets thanks for your service

Posted by: NativeNH at November 11, 2014 08:54 AM (IRPf1)

214 Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2014 08:52 AM (2cS/G)


Hahahaha. Since you obv survived it, excellent story.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:54 AM (da5Wo)

215 " Click on some things."



Yeah, figured that out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 08:54 AM (odIDF)

216 The note for the Bing photo says it is the Tower of London with an installation of ceramic poppies commissioned to commemorate the beginning of WWI so yes, it is appropriate for the day-even though you have to read about it to find out.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 11, 2014 08:54 AM (QlprU)

217 Um, you're welcome? I never know how to respond when people tell me thanks for serving. It's such a tradition in our family I'm not even sure I had a choice in the matter other than what branch I'd join.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at November 11, 2014 08:55 AM (IbjZr)

218 It all started as Armistice Day when the Great War ended on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.

Posted by: McCool at November 11, 2014 08:55 AM (nCSwS)

219 Yeah, BC, it's so funny to hear all the stories after twenty-plus years. About ten of us are fast friends again, it's been really cool the last few years.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2014 08:56 AM (2cS/G)

220
Hello from Way Down Here and it's Wednesday already

Our Remembrance Day is not a public holiday however there were events right around the country in commemoration - at work we did stop at 11am and hold the minute silence - the Remembrance Day event in Canberra was on the big telly in the waiting room

The big day here is ANZAC Day, 25th April and the big buildup is on for the 100th anniversary of the Gallipoli landings on that day

The History Channel right now is showing a programme on the ANZAC landing on Gallipoli ....

Thank you to all the allied forces, past and present!

Posted by: aussie at November 11, 2014 08:57 AM (lOFeH)

221 He has never once in his entire cosseted life ever been asked to examine a single assumption he's ever had.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 11, 2014 08:49 AM (V+kmg)

Ah...but late at night, when he isn't in the warm cocoon of progressive thought, he looks at himself and knows, deep in his soul, that he cannot do the things that real men do for him every day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2014 08:58 AM (Zu3d9)

222 Beck => Emotitainment


"What you are about to hear is the fusion of enlightenment and entertainment and emotion. But mostly..."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 11, 2014 08:58 AM (NeFrd)

223 Huh. You can actually purchase one of the ceramic poppies used in the Tower of London display.

..............

Damn. They're sold out.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 08:59 AM (da5Wo)

224 Daily Mail on the subject of the moat-full-of-poppies:

http://is.gd/8JTAgD

Oh, and thanks joncelli, I was just thinking about posting that.

Posted by: DJ_sock_rat_eez at November 11, 2014 08:59 AM (T+Chm)

225 Charlotte Observer? NOT ONE FUCKING WORD ABOUT VETERANS DAY.



But we did get a football story that stated the obvious, The Panthers Suck.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2014 08:59 AM (0FSuD)

226
It all started as Armistice Day when the Great War ended on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.

I find it hard to read about that war because it was such a stupid squandering of young life. European countries had sent observers to our Civil War and Russian - Japanese war in 1905. People should have understood what industrialized war was going to look like.

But French military doctrine still held that a battle was won with elan and cavalry charges.

Millions of dead, and then the need to re-fight it two decades later.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 11, 2014 09:00 AM (JtwS4)

227 ...knows, deep in his soul, that he cannot do the things that real men do for him every day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2014 08:58 AM (Zu3d9)

And hates them for it. I think that's one of the attributes of progressives. Instead of being encouraged to do better/try harder they simply hate those who do.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 11, 2014 09:00 AM (GDulk)

228 My dad was drafted during Vietnam. Served mostly in Germany.

Few years back, he was on the phone with USAA and the rep politely asked him what rank he was when he separated.

"Private."

"Oh."

I guess that was not the answer she was expecting, being used to people who volunteered and stayed in a little longer.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 09:00 AM (0xTsz)

229 We shall not sleep, though poppies grow

In Flanders fields.


Posted by: joncelli

When I was in grade school in the early 60s they held a poppy poster contest each year and the teacher would read that poem. I actually won once and got my picture in the local paper. My 15 minutes of fame came early. I wonder if schools do anything like that anymore, I sure was proud.

Posted by: dartist at November 11, 2014 09:00 AM (ahBY0)

230 Is that what Beck's email was yesterday about? It said I could watch live, free, no credit card required,

What is he dying of?

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 09:00 AM (sj3Ax)

231 "The big day here is ANZAC Day, 25th April and the big buildup is on for
the 100th anniversary of the Gallipoli landings on that day"


Hello, aussie.


I give my Aussie gun buddies a salute on ANZAC day. They're usually charged up to hit the range.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 09:01 AM (odIDF)

232 >>Damn. They're sold out.

Of all 888,246?


Wow.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 09:02 AM (0xTsz)

233
231 Ricardo Kill

Good onya mate *smiley face*

Posted by: aussie at November 11, 2014 09:03 AM (lOFeH)

234 Happy Veterans Day from a citizen who is VERY appreciative of our freedom and knows who's responsible for it.

Posted by: zeera at November 11, 2014 09:04 AM (HD3d3)

235 1. Happy Veterans Day

2. Fuck Salon

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 11, 2014 09:04 AM (0LHZx)

236 Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 11, 2014 09:00 AM (JtwS4)

One thing I found interesting from Guns of August was that WWI was set up by an earlier conflict (and of course the Napoleonic War was pretty much a world war). It looks like Europe pretty much *needs* to tear itself apart every 50 years or so.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 11, 2014 09:05 AM (GDulk)

237 Interesting how these little testosterone-allergic hipster bitches like this Salon omega-male get the vapors on Veterans Day.

They like the Cheetos and Weed 'libertarians' are repulsed by rough men willing to hold the line for the sake of freedom.

And are oblivious to the fact without the patriotic society that they live in, they would be beaten to death by the strong for their share of resources.

Enabling pansies: another payment in the price of freedom.

Posted by: John YaYa at November 11, 2014 09:05 AM (Qgr71)

238 Of all 888,246?


Wow.
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 09:02 AM (0xTsz)



Yup. At 25pounds a piece....times 888,246...do the conversion...

Wow.

$35,221,840

Website says that 10% of every poppy, plus all net proceeds, will be distributed between 6 service charities.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 09:05 AM (da5Wo)

239 Is that what Beck's email was yesterday about? It said I could watch live, free, no credit card required,

What is he dying of?

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 09:00 AM (sj3Ax)


He's not dying of something, that is what is email was about.

I think it is unfair to say that he is claiming to be dying of some disease. He had said on the air some time ago that he was having issues with vision etc.

His announcement now is that he has recovered from the ailment, but that this brush with mortality - or perhaps worse, losing his mental faculties, an almost Alzheimer's like state - has changed his focus. Which happens.


Posted by: blaster at November 11, 2014 09:06 AM (Rx8ML)

240 "Good onya mate *smiley face*"



One day we'll all go toss a pint at the pub in the arvo.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 09:07 AM (odIDF)

241
The krautish tabloid Bild says there's speculation that Obama and Putin are close to a deal where we turn out back on eastern Ukraine and he gives us some help on getting a nuclear deal with Iran.

I'm sure there's no way Obama will get snookered.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 11, 2014 09:07 AM (JtwS4)

242 Thing that bugs me... In movies it seems like characters who are veterans are always messed up. They're alcoholics or can't keep a relationship or just plain messed up in the head. It's always he went to war and came back home and got divorced or got involved with a gang or wakes up every night screaming about the atrocities he saw "over there".

Just once I'd like to see a movie where the veteran went to war, came back, became an accountant, got married and lived happily ever after.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 11, 2014 09:09 AM (0LHZx)

243 Blaster,
Someone else posted Beck was dying. I didn't watch it.
Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 09:10 AM (sj3Ax)

244 Bless him, Tj. God, what stories he must have had. Thank you Ricardo, he wouldn't tell much. Last year when he passed away all he wanted was a military funeral and to be buried in a Veterans cemetery. Because the CIC was playing games with cut backs we were told no that you had to be "special" for the ceremony. My brother-in-law, retired Army called the Commander and said is 10 months in a concentration camp special enough for you? Taps with a bugle is beautiful.

Posted by: Tj at November 11, 2014 09:10 AM (FBjP7)

245 Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 09:00 AM (0xTsz)

My dad enlisted in the 1950s.

When he finally made Private (1st Class), his sergeant said, "Don't let the power go to to your head."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2014 09:10 AM (Zu3d9)

246 Re Beck, he says some things.

Remember his thoughts after the hemorrhoid surgery years ago?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 11, 2014 09:10 AM (odIDF)

247 On the Beck thing, I said this last night in the ONT and I'll say it again here...

My view is this, I have no idea what illness Beck was/is suffering from, or indeed if he was at all, only he and his doctors know that...but him being reluctant to talk about what the illness was/is isn't unusual to me.

So I'll simply wish him luck and offer up prayers for his wellbeing and that of his family.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 09:11 AM (da5Wo)

248 Good morning!


Thanks to all our veterans, past and present.

Posted by: EC at November 11, 2014 09:11 AM (GQ8sn)

249
One thing I found interesting from Guns of August was that WWI was set up by an earlier conflict (and of course the Napoleonic War was pretty much a world war). It looks like Europe pretty much *needs* to tear itself apart every 50 years or so.

Yeah, Guns of August is a great, if depressing book.

The way I was taught the background is that Bismarck was a strong chancellor under a weak Kaiser. He orchestrated a series of interlocking and sometimes incompatible alliances which were able to keep the peace as long as he was there to pull the strings. When he died all of Europe went to war for reasons they didn't understand because their treaties compelled them to.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 11, 2014 09:11 AM (JtwS4)

250 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 11, 2014 09:11 AM (kff5f)

251 Who posted the Virginia Tech link in the sidebar?

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 09:11 AM (0xTsz)

252 Thank you to all who serve or have served!

My dad served in the army during Korea. Hw was stationed in WA where he was a psychiatric nurse treating soldiers with PTSD.

My f-i-l was a marine during WWII. He was a supply sergeant in the southern US.

A friend of mine from h.s. is career Air Force. She's a colonel in charge if medical logistics, I believe.

Posted by: Andy Reid at November 11, 2014 09:12 AM (9BRsg)

253
A wonderful read

"The Great War" by Les Carlyon, an Aussie author, and it's an account of the Aussies in WW1

I'm not sure if it's still available but I bought my copy at a used book sale for a couple of $$

Sorry about being so Aussie centric on an American blog....

Posted by: aussie at November 11, 2014 09:12 AM (lOFeH)

254 Morning all. Gotta go out soon.

Here's something for Veterans Day; let's call it a tribute to all who serve...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR87LsmXzBs


Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2014 09:12 AM (/mTq0)

255 @243. Carol I know you were responding to someone else. Trying to get you the straight scoop.

Posted by: blaster at November 11, 2014 09:12 AM (Rx8ML)

256 Veterans- thank you for your service, and coming home.
Family of Veterans- thank you for lending us your fathers/mothers/sisters/brothers/children. My best birthday present ever is still when the US Army returned my brother home safely and in more-or-less one piece.

To all of you- God bless you.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 11, 2014 09:13 AM (kff5f)

257 I served because I was pissed off, it was my pleasure
nowadays I downplay it all except for 11/10 (MCBD) and 11/11 (Vets Day) because its fun to call up old buddies and lie to eachother about how great we like to pretend we were

Posted by: chelsea danger at November 11, 2014 09:14 AM (xMZ4W)

258 Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 09:11 AM (0xTsz)

I just assume that if there is no name attached to the link, that it is Ace.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2014 09:14 AM (Zu3d9)

259
Sorry about being so Aussie centric on an American blog....

Oh, we love your upside-down perspective.

I've always thought Aussies and Americans have a lot in common, being the people that got thrown out of Europe and made a fresh start on a new continent.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 11, 2014 09:15 AM (JtwS4)

260 Can someone point me to where I would find Ken Burns "The War"?

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 09:15 AM (sj3Ax)

261 253 -- aussie -- Don't worry about it...

...we're all 'centric' in our own ways.

(But I managed to include the 'roos in the video I found <#254>

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2014 09:15 AM (/mTq0)

262 After the USA liberated Western Europe in WWII, kept its forces there, held the nuclear sword over their heads, and made them unite against the Commies, the Western Europeans haven't even tossed sausages and croissants at each other.

Their days of fighting each other are over.

Western Europe is fading away, to be replaced by a messy semi-Caliphate.

Posted by: eman at November 11, 2014 09:15 AM (MQEz6)

263 @242

May I suggest the 1946 Academy Award winner for best picture and true tear jerkier.


http://tinyurl.com/3tvxw2d


Opening clip


http://tinyurl.com/mlep3zj

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2014 09:15 AM (0FSuD)

264 They played an interview (or at least part of one) on NPR this morning with GWB talking about his book and his father. It was a surprisingly good interview, at least what they played for the radio.

http://tinyurl.com/ok9g9eu

Posted by: Hal at November 11, 2014 09:15 AM (hmPdt)

265 A salute to my fellow veterans of the Devils in Baggy Pants and the Hounds of Hell. Two of finest fighting units the world has known. Keep your feet and knees together, bounce the rubble, and pass the beer.

Posted by: Assassin6 at November 11, 2014 09:16 AM (FfukH)

266 Posted by: aussie at November 11, 2014 09:12 AM (lOFeH)

Don't know about the others, but I like that you have different info sources we can look into. Appreciate it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 11, 2014 09:16 AM (GDulk)

267
240 Ricardo Kill

Yes, have a few, chug a lug, down the hatch and she'll be sweet!

Posted by: aussie at November 11, 2014 09:16 AM (lOFeH)

268 Okaaaay... that smiley was unintentional in 261...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2014 09:16 AM (/mTq0)

269 Question to the vets:

How do you feel about all the "Veterans Eat Free" or "20% off for Veterans" deals that seem to be everywhere on 11/11?

I find it kind of a cheap marketing gimmick to make the rubes think "wow, company XYZ really cares, must be a good company to do business with or work for". Maybe for small mom and pop businesses it's more genuine but when Target is doing a "10% off with Military ID" promotion, it seems cheap and not at all genuine.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 11, 2014 09:17 AM (0LHZx)

270 Fuckabee, philosophically, is ipso facto fucknotbee.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at November 11, 2014 09:18 AM (eeB0/)

271 236
One thing I found interesting from Guns of August was that WWI was set up by an earlier conflict (and of course the Napoleonic War was pretty much a world war). It looks like Europe pretty much *needs* to tear itself apart every 50 years or so.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 11, 2014 09:05 AM (GDulk)


Yesterday I got an e-mail from Amazon featuring a new book about the Italo-Ottoman War of 1911-12. I had heard about the Balkan Wars in 1912 and 13, but I'd never heard of this one. Apparently it was the first war in which airplanes were used. That looks like a Bleriot monoplane on the cover.

https://tinyurl.com/ldrawul

Posted by: rickl at November 11, 2014 09:18 AM (zoehZ)

272 Thanks to all the veterans , especially my father, Korea, WWII and Vietnam. God Bless you all.

Posted by: gracepmc at November 11, 2014 09:18 AM (xvd51)

273 Sorry to go off track here, but can I just complain about this teacher who was removed from her teaching position without pay and may lose her job permanently-rightfully, I think. Aside from the racist comments I really think it's bad, bad thing to have as an English teacher someone who uses the slang/poor grammar of "I'm a call you a cracker."

And how hard is it for teachers to realize that if you tweet and post things on Facebook that are really inappropriate there may be consequences?
You want to do racist rants and wish that people die put it in your own personal journal at home.
Good grief!:

http://tinyurl.com/qyaebvt

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 11, 2014 09:19 AM (QlprU)

274 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 11, 2014 09:17 AM (0LHZx)

Don't know about other places but Lowe's and Home Depot give 10% off to veterans every day. Veterans used to be able to get discounts at hotels and such as well but now it seems like AARP (and maybe AAA) are the only ones that get discounts.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 11, 2014 09:19 AM (GDulk)

275 From Salon last night: "Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as "heroes." The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible."

I'll let Demi speak to this as she did in "A Few Good Men".

From another lawyer asking her why she wanted to put up a ferocious defense for two accused marines: "Why do you like them so much?"

Demi: "Because they stand on a wall while I sleep and say, 'No one will harm you'."

Posted by: RM at November 11, 2014 09:20 AM (fRppw)

276 Thanks, Blaster!

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 09:20 AM (sj3Ax)

277 My dad enlisted in the 1950s.

When he finally made Private (1st Class), his sergeant said, "Don't let the power go to to your head."


My dad was a Marine in Vietnam, and never made it past lance-Corporal because of some... subordination issues (he was never technically insubordinate. Technically).

They promoted him to full Corporal just a few weeks before his enlistment was up, mostly as a going-away present.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 11, 2014 09:20 AM (kff5f)

278 >>I just assume that if there is no name attached to the link, that it is Ace.

Yeh, but it doesn't sound like Ace.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 09:20 AM (0xTsz)

279 @269. I am not so cynical about it.

Even if it is mere marketing, that means that they realize that it is a positive thing.

Posted by: blaster at November 11, 2014 09:20 AM (Rx8ML)

280 Happy Veteran's Day to all in the horde who served. I'm taking a newbie shooter out to the range this morning; hopefully I won't qualify for a Purple Heart by the end of the day!

Posted by: PabloD at November 11, 2014 09:21 AM (roESk)

281 Posted by: Tj at November 11, 2014 09:10 AM (FBjP7)

God bless your brother!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 11, 2014 09:21 AM (F2IAQ)

282 249 -

Another great book on the topic is "Dreadnought" by Robert K. Massie.

In some ways, the Great War was a response to previous conflicts (including mostly the German humiliation of the french in 1871). Massie lays out the case that in a lot of ways it was that the respective powers had convinced themselves their new war machines would give them an edge over their enemies, so they wanted and needed to test them out.

Both sides had convinced themselves that it would be a short war.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 11, 2014 09:22 AM (Dj0WE)

283 Carol, click the link at the top to check the schedule in your area.

http://www.pbs.org/thewar/

Posted by: dartist at November 11, 2014 09:22 AM (ahBY0)

284 I, too, would like to thank all Veterans, past and present. Except my CO and 1st SGT at A 1/508 82d ABN in 1981. They were two unmitigated assholes.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet at November 11, 2014 09:22 AM (k733B)

285 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Marginally Honorable Chairman at November 11, 2014 09:11 AM (da5Wo)

Yes, thanks, BCochran.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 11, 2014 09:22 AM (QlprU)

286 [This was sent to me by an Australian cousin who fought for all six years of WWII. He's in his early 90s, and still going strong. it's sort of sappy, but still....]

THE FINAL INSPECTION

The soldier stood and faced God,
Which must always come to pass
He hoped his shoes were shining,
Just as brightly as his brass.

'Step forward now, you soldier,
How shall I deal with you?
Have you always turned the other cheek?
To My Church have you been true?'

The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
'No, Lord, I guess I ain't.
Because those of us who carry guns
Can't always be a saint.

'I've had to work most Sundays,
And at times my talk was tough.
And sometimes I've been violent,
Because the world is awfully rough.

'But, I never took a penny
That wasn't mine to keep...
Though I worked a lot of overtime,
When the bills got just too steep.

'And I never passed a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fear.
And sometimes, God, forgive me,
I've wept unmanly tears.

'I know I don't deserve a place,
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around,
Except to calm their fears.

'If you've a place for me here, Lord,
It needn't be so grand.
I never expected or had too much,
But if you don't, I'll understand.'

There was a silence all around the throne,
Where the saints had often trod.
As the soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.

'Step forward now, you soldier,
You've borne your burdens well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets,
You've done your time in Hell.'

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2014 09:23 AM (Zu3d9)

287 Re: military discounts. Same trip this past summer, me and another guy, who stayed in and retired last year after 25 years, were at a True Value hardware store, buying a mountain of fishing gear, bait, etc. when the guy I was with asked about a military discount and began taking out an ID card, the lady said "Oh, I already put it in for you guys, don't worry about it.". I thought that was nice, we weren't wearing any Army gear, she must have just overheard snippets of conversation.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 11, 2014 09:23 AM (2cS/G)

288 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 11, 2014 09:19 AM (QlprU)

She thought she was the specialist snowflake.

Unfortunately for her, teachers like her are a dime a dozen in DFW.

5-2 odds she sues the ISD.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 11, 2014 09:23 AM (kff5f)

289 The Best Years of Our Lives is excellent. I lose it every time I watch it.

Posted by: seems legit at November 11, 2014 09:23 AM (A98Xu)

290 It pisses me off that illegal aliens go to the ER & get better treatment than most of our Veterans.

My older brother goes to the VA here in either Bedford or Boston & he has no complaints.

My father always went to the VA in Boston. He loved the card he got there.

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 09:24 AM (sj3Ax)

291 My grandpa was a Marine in WWI, served at Belleau Wood among other places. Almost never talked about it, but he was decorated for running into no-mans-zone and collecting the wounded and dead.

My uncles served in WWII, including one who was diabetic, so he ended up serving in the glider corps because they were the only ones who would take him. Another uncle flew over Italy.

Neither one talked about it.

My dad, luckily, was young enough to miss WWII and old enough to miss Korea, but he did his time as well, and ended up stationed in Fairbanks, from which he mustered out and moved, sanely, to Anchorage, whereupon I was born.

I was Army Corps of Engineers for six years.

I think the good Lord daily for the proud history of service in my family, and the good people they defended, and the freedom for which so many paid dearly.

Posted by: tcn in AK, almost at November 11, 2014 09:24 AM (g+qqc)

292 It pisses me off that illegal aliens go to the ER & get better treatment than most of our Veterans.

No shit. My grandfather (RIP) was retired military and he basically made us swear we would never take him to a VA hospital.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 11, 2014 09:25 AM (DrWcr)

293
259 Bandersnatch

" I've always thought Aussies and Americans have a lot in common, being the people that got thrown out of Europe and made a fresh start on a new continent "

Definitely, and we have been a melting pot type of place ever since the Brits decided to transport their unwanted prisoners here...

My bestest friend, has as her relative, the first female Jewess to arrive in the
Second Fleet - we visited this pioneer prisoner's grave a few years back

Posted by: aussie at November 11, 2014 09:26 AM (lOFeH)

294 237
Interesting how these little testosterone-allergic hipster bitches like this Salon omega-male get the vapors on Veterans Day.

They like the Cheetos and Weed 'libertarians' are repulsed by rough men willing to hold the line for the sake of freedom.

And
are oblivious to the fact without the patriotic society that they live
in, they would be beaten to death by the strong for their share of
resources.

Enabling pansies: another payment in the price of freedom.



Posted by: John YaYa at November 11, 2014 09:05 AM (Qgr71)

************************
This is a rant I go on frequently. The idiot weasels do not comprehend that if they do away with the rule of law and replace it with the rule of man, which they are hell-bent to do, it is the weak in society who lose, not the strong. There are tens of millions of us who are armed, trained, and know how to work as an organization. We will always be OK, no matter how bad things get. So will the gangs and the Mafia. This Salon puke would have to seek the protection of men like us in order to function day to day, and what of value does he add to the world that someone would pay him to do it if the sh*t hit the fan? The leftists carry and spread the seeds of their own destruction, if we let them. And they owe their very existence to us and to our fealty to the Constitution, although they are too stupid to realize it and try to undermine it every day.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 11, 2014 09:26 AM (5f5bM)

295 277 -

I knew a few guys who had the opposite happen, because some dickhead CO decided he needed to exert HIS power.

The UCMJ makes it pretty easy to have some excuse to accuse somebody of insubordination or some other similar offense. I had a CO who wasn't going to make Major, so he decided to take down as many real soldiers as he could.

To this day, he's probably the one person on this planet I would punch in the face if I ever saw him again. Most everyone else who has ever offended, I can forgive, but not that prick.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 11, 2014 09:27 AM (Dj0WE)

296 Oh, and I will see your devils in baggy pants and raise you fury from the sky.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet at November 11, 2014 09:27 AM (k733B)

297 Say what you will about Facebook, but I'm happy it has helped me reconnect with a lot of my old military buddies. I'm cracking up at some of the pics they have posted today.

Posted by: no good deed at November 11, 2014 09:28 AM (w3a0Z)

298 284 -

A freakin' men. Most everyone you ever served with is worth being honored.

But not everyone.


Posted by: BurtTC at November 11, 2014 09:29 AM (Dj0WE)

299 Dump's up, bitchez!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 11, 2014 09:30 AM (DrWcr)

300 Posted by: BurtTC at November 11, 2014 09:27 AM (Dj0WE)

Proving that the apple does not fall far from the tree (and that the Army today is way more PC than the Marines of the 60s & 70s), my brother earned himself some kind of administrative punishment (I don't remember what, exactly), but part of his punishment was that he was forbidden from being sarcastic in the hearing of one specific officer.

Before that, during training, he dared ask a question during a briefing and received some brain-dead answer. His response, "I love this plan! I'm glad to be a part of it!"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 11, 2014 09:31 AM (kff5f)

301
261 Cpt Charles


Now I'm crying - just saw your link in your previous post...

Posted by: aussie at November 11, 2014 09:31 AM (lOFeH)

302 284 Was that in Panama?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 11, 2014 09:31 AM (Cdl5U)

303 Insomniac,
My brother has no complaints at the VA here in Massachusetts. He goes there all the time. He's said if they don't have a specialist on the staff they'll get one from a private practice or another hospital.

My grandfather fought in WWI & died of brain cancer, among others, at Soldiers Home in city next to mine. That was in 1971

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 09:34 AM (sj3Ax)

304 O/T, but I am damn curious: does anyone know anything about that costume Choom Boy is/was wearing while sucking up to the Heathen Chinee? Looks like the outfits those "Heaven's Gate" wackos were sporting before they offed themselves....

-
Twitchy had some Photoshop fun with that.

http://tinyurl.com/pm6ucqy

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 11, 2014 09:34 AM (yqHDv)

305 The thing that enraged me about my CO was this. He was very active in the Evangelical community around Fort Bragg. Very devout, very committed. When I arrived at my unit in mid 1981, a shiny new PV-2 fresh out of Airborne School, I found a bit later that he had been telling members of the unit that I was "not a real Christian" because I was Mormon. The arrogance, chutzpah, insensitivity and just pure cluelessness of that is still breathtaking to me. Can you imagine the effect that had on me as a brand new soldier to have the CO specifically calling me out like that. I wish to god that I had made a complaint against him for religious discrimination, but I was young and foolish. I still seethe when I think about it, though.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet at November 11, 2014 09:35 AM (k733B)

306 Thank you to all veterans for your service! My father in law spent the Depression on a gunboat in China. My boyfriend's father was in both WWII and Korea. He was also at Pearl Harbor. Like many veterans, he didn't talk much about his experiences.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 11, 2014 09:35 AM (Lqy/e)

307
266 Polliwog etc

Thanks so much , now I've discovered bitly (thanks NDH) I'll be blasting you with links ....

Posted by: aussie at November 11, 2014 09:36 AM (lOFeH)

308 The Great White Snark,
I saw a picture yesterday at WZ of all thr world leaders wearing same jacket.
SCOAMT looks like an idiot in it & he bowed to China's leader!

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 09:37 AM (sj3Ax)

309 The cupcake picture from Bebe


http://tinypic.com/r/oqkpe9/8

Posted by: Cicero Skip at November 11, 2014 09:37 AM (FIrEF)

310 John Bolton is on FNC right now.
I was about to turn it off.

Posted by: Carol at November 11, 2014 09:38 AM (sj3Ax)

311 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 11, 2014 09:17 AM (0LHZx)


ran across article (History, Hubris, and Home Depopt) that I read last night at the Greenie Board (linked from CDR Salamander) that discusses parts of this.


my thoughts, if they offer it's a good thing, you never have to accept.

Posted by: dDan at November 11, 2014 09:39 AM (hwYmz)

312 251 Who posted the Virginia Tech link in the sidebar?
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 09:11 AM (0xTsz)

God dammit, when I graduated Tech was still reasonably sane. PC advances everywhere. So much for my alumni contributions.

Posted by: joncelli at November 11, 2014 09:40 AM (RD7QR)

313 I find it kind of a cheap marketing gimmick to make
the rubes think "wow, company XYZ really cares, must be a good company
to do business with or work for". Maybe for small mom and pop businesses
it's more genuine but when Target is doing a "10% off with Military ID"
promotion, it seems cheap and not at all genuine.



Thoughts?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 11, 2014 09:17 AM (0LHZx)
I disagree, and it is not cheap and it is appreciated. Moo Moo I am beginning to think you are a cynic.

I like the airlines letting on soldiers in uniform on first ALL year long.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2014 09:41 AM (0FSuD)

314 A great song for Vets Day is
A Pittance of Time - Terry Kelly
http://tinyurl.com/5t6lqc


Posted by: McCool at November 11, 2014 09:42 AM (TQxRy)

315 Posted by: dDan at November 11, 2014 09:39 AM (hwYmz)

have to run,bbl

Posted by: dDan at November 11, 2014 09:42 AM (hwYmz)

316 301 -- aussie -- Welcome to the club.

That video helps me remember that America is not alone...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR87LsmXzBs

...honor your friends before you honor yourself.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2014 09:43 AM (/mTq0)

317 251 Who posted the Virginia Tech link in the sidebar?
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2014 09:11 AM (0xTsz)


Whoops. That was me. Forgot to tag it.

Posted by: krakatoa at November 11, 2014 09:48 AM (eCtnP)

318 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 11, 2014 09:19 AM (GDulk)

T-Mobile gives a veterans discount. I don't think they advertise it, but I get one on my monthly bill.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at November 11, 2014 09:48 AM (IbjZr)

319 My dad when to VPI when it was all military. He got called up in 38. At the time there were only 1200 commission regular army officers in the country. He spent three years training people at Ft Stewart, then off to Trinidad, yeah tough duty, and back to general staff at the new Pentagon, more tough duty. Single officer with a car in DC during the war. I am sure he never got laid.




He got called up for Korea, back to Pentagon and got his retired reserves the week before the call up for the Cuban Missile crisis. People forget we mobilized for that.



Got offered a Regular Army commission, instead of Reserve officer, turned it down. Colonel's in the 50's didn't make jack shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2014 09:49 AM (0FSuD)

320 222 Beck => Emotitainment


"What you are about to hear is the fusion of enlightenment and entertainment and emotion. But mostly..."
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 11, 2014 08:58 AM (NeFrd)


with sponsors

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 114 days until spring training at November 11, 2014 09:50 AM (u8GsB)

321 Thanks to all who came before, and thanks to all Americans who pay taxes into a defense system of tremendous opportunity and merit for those who are lucky enough to serve.

Honor the military by protecting its culture. It's the last think tank of common sense, the last incubator of real-world ideals. Lives depend on this, but the progressive left is attempting to gender neutralize, over-sensitize, and culturally sterilize the institution(s). Do not let them.

Posted by: 0302 at November 11, 2014 09:57 AM (N6eLE)

322 To my colleagues of the VII Corps Artillery, God Bless and have a memorable day!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 11, 2014 10:22 AM (08Znv)

323 The USA Navy has believed in AGW climate change for over ten years, should we all believe ?

Posted by: Tighter at November 11, 2014 10:38 AM (u4OEB)

324 God Bless all who serve.

Posted by: seamrog at November 11, 2014 10:54 AM (8YoW+)

325 Here's to:

My Dad: Minuteman Missile Jock, 22-year Air Force Vet;

My Great Uncle (RIP): US Army, participated in the liberation of the PI in WWII;

My Maternal Grandfather (RIP): Fought in WWII in Europe with the Army;

My Best Friend: Jarhead in the 70s.

And, last and least: Me, Boring Supply Officer on a Boring Supply Ship in Bremerton, 1989 - 1992.


Thank you to everyone here who served, and to your families. God Bless You All.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 11, 2014 11:06 AM (rXB/r)

326 Thank you to each and everyone of you who is serving now and has served. There aren't enough words to sufficiently express my gratitude and my awe for all you've done.

Yet another reason to love the South.....all of the restaurants around here comp Vets meals, Wal-Mart is giving out coffee, cupcakes and gift cards to them, all those electric type signs that businesses have now are scrolling messages thanking and naming the local Vets, everywhere you look you see how much people around here revere our heroes..... and yes, I said HEROES.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2014 12:01 PM (6P3Qb)

327 Thanks to all that served.

In particular, my dad (101st, Vietnam, 66-67)
My grandfathers:
My father's father had to fight for a waiver from his draft exempt job to enlist, while married with kids- served in the Army in the Pacific.

My Mother's father served on Long Island (was at Montauk Light when the Germans landed saboteurs on LI) and later the Pacific.

My Great Grandfather served in the infantry in France in WWI, and was seriously wounded by Phosgene gas. He died in his late 20's.

Posted by: elliot at November 11, 2014 12:54 PM (j+v9A)

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