New York Daily News Cover Blasts Obama
Update: At Congressional Hearings, Panel Says 100-150 People From Ebola-Infected Countries Enter the US, Per Day

Everyone's thinking it. They blast it in 44-font type.

Via Twitchy:


Their editorial on #EbolaCare is here.


The American health-care systemís failure to prepare for Ebola became even more terrifyingly evident with the revelation that a Dallas nurse traveled by air after treating a patient who ultimately died from the virus.

Amber Joy Vinson began running a fever the day after her flight, putting her on the edge of communicability when she crowded among fellow passengers. Tests later confirmed that she carried the lethal microbe.

Still struggling to get command of the countryís response to Ebola more than six months after the current outbreak started in West Africa, Centers for Disease Control Director Thomas Frieden was left to spell out a principle that should have been set weeks or months ago -- and backed up with stringent enforcement.

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Later on Wednesday, after cancelling a congressional campaign trip to Connecticut, President Obama said that the U.S. would become more aggressive in coordinating the national response to Ebola, including sending a CDC team to any hospital with a confirmed Ebola case.

But, by stopping short of issuing mandatory protocols, the President again fell back on the catch-as-catch-can system that produced such disastrous results in Dallas. He did so at the peril of health-care providers and the public -- because trust that individual hospitals here, there and everywhere would perform superbly is decidedly misplaced.

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Neither Obama nor Frieden had the sense to issue directives with the firm, clear quality of standards sought by National Nurses United, representing thousands of nurses across the country.

The webinars the bureaucrats have posted for health-care professionals to watch (on their own time, if they feel like it) specify that the personal protective equipment is best utilized by "dedicated staff with years of training," per the Daily News.

We have "dedicated staff with years of training." They're at the various speciality infectious disease treatment centers, such as the CDC's unit at Emory, or the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

And where were they when ebola came to America?

This is the bureaucratic mindset in practice.

A bureaucrat sends out a memo, an email, and tells people "Follow the below protocols in ebola cases" and considers his job done.

Hey, he sent out a memo. That's his job. Sending out memos. Can't say he didn't do his job.

Here's how a non-bureaucrat views this situation:

We have a serious public health crisis. We have known since March that ebola was back, and in subsequent months the disease infected people at an exponential rate. As full-blown epidemics do.

They suffered a 70% death rate for ebola infections in West Africa. (Here in the States, supposedly we will only have a 50% death rate-- but I'm not confident that the "experts" are right about that.)

Now, given the fact that ebola is raging across West Africa, killing thousands of people, would anyone who is serious about epidemic containment think, back in, say, June, "Well, we sent out a memo and posted an instructional video. Our work here is done."

No. Back in June, the CDC should have offered hospitals a major crash course in ebola containment. They should not have relied upon their previous memos. They should have actually checked and followed up with hospitals to ensure that people knew at least the basics of containment.

And when Duncan was diagnosed with ebola, they should have sent out a team of experts to oversee the hospital's handling of the matter or simply taken over treatment of Duncan themselves.

After disaster has already struck -- and after six months of the disease spreading exponentially -- the Commander in Golf Togs finally announces:


President Obama said that the U.S. would become more aggressive in coordinating the national response to Ebola, including sending a CDC team to any hospital with a confirmed Ebola case.

Congratulations on doing on October 15th what you should have done on March 25th.


Meanwhile, Hot Air notes that the LA Times is also complaining about this bumbling Keystone Cops performance.

The LA Times:

Even as U.S. health authorities continue to tell Americans not to worry about the Ebola virus, their assurances are being undercut by the increasingly obvious deficiencies in domestic planning. Thomas Frieden, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has repeatedly been forced to back away from his calming assertions that U.S. hospitals were ready for the disease and that the nationís quarantines were more effective than those in Africa and would keep any infected people at home.

We've now seen what happens when the nation is faced with one ebola patient.

Ed asks: What happens when there's ten?

Liberia is on the edge of collapse. If the economy simply stops, millions of people will have no food, and furthermore, they'll be in a deadly hot zone.

At some point, if this contagion is not halted where it is the most widespread, we will be faced with thousands of people very rationally trying to get the hell out of Liberia.

Unfortunately, many of them will be infected, so their flight will serve no purpose except to put other populations at risk.

I'm of course hoping we can stop ebola from spreading in Liberia -- but at the current time, cases are increasing, and increasing at a rate of one doubling every three weeks.

Update: What if ten people come at once?

How about this: What if 100 actual ebola cases come over the course of 2-3 days?

Rep. Cory Gardner: (Dr. Frieden) I think you mentioned there were approximately 100 to 150 people a day coming into the United States from the infected areas.

Dr. Tom Frieden: Thatís my understanding, yes.

Gardner: ANd, Mr. Wagner you admitted we're screening 94% of those people?

John P. Wagner: As of today that covers about 94%.

Gardner: So if 94% are being covered, that means somewhere between two and three thousand people a year are coming into this country without being screened from the infected areas?

1, I don't believe the 94% figure like I've come to disbelieve the "extremely low probability" claims, and 2, that "screening" now consists of two ineffectual steps: taking someone's temperature by an inaccurate remote sensor, and asking them where they've been the past 21 days.

Thomas Eric Duncan passed his temperature check and furthermore lied about whether he'd come into contact with ebola.

So, supposedly, 94% of arrivals from ebola infected countries are being put through multilayered screening, neither part of which works.

Oh, by the way, we now know you can actually have a fever and also be at high risk for ebola and yet still get on a plane.

Posted by: Ace at 02:18 PM




Comments

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1 Too little, too late

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 02:13 PM (vPh3W)

2 The Ebola has got the italicans!

Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2014 02:13 PM (DrWcr)

3 Italicanitus! Run for your lives!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2014 02:15 PM (JO9+V)

4 Pretty sure the Republicans caused Ebola with their budget cuts cause they hate People of Color.

Thanks a lot, Dick Cheney!

Posted by: Democrat-Media Industrial Complex at October 16, 2014 02:15 PM (ZPrif)

5

Damned Italics spreading ebola all over the place ...

Posted by: imp at October 16, 2014 02:15 PM (XIXZz)

6 I demand a travel ban for Italicans.

Posted by: Senator Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 02:15 PM (0xTsz)

7 Best and the brightest our gov't is best and the brightest.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 02:16 PM (sgrzZ)

8 "Ebola ... threatening to sink the Obama presidency."

It appears that Operation 'Incoherent Resolve' has already done that.

Posted by: Sam Donaldson at October 16, 2014 02:16 PM (e8kgV)

9 Diiiiiid I doooo that?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 02:16 PM (vPh3W)

10 Only 100 people a day flying into the U.S. from West Africa.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 16, 2014 02:16 PM (b6koZ)

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:16 PM (RJMhd)

12 Fact Sheets for everybody!

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 16, 2014 02:16 PM (X+nFp)

13

Ebola stops italicans, dead.

Posted by: imp at October 16, 2014 02:17 PM (XIXZz)

14 I watched the hearings on CSPAN a little this morning. It doesn't take long to realize how frucking stupid most of our elected officials are. Also, the bureaucrats.

Posted by: huerfano at October 16, 2014 02:17 PM (bAGA/)

15 I frickin love that cover.

Oh and maybe this FiXX song fits better:


The deception with tact
Just what are you trying to say
You've got a blank face, which irritates
Communicate, pull out your party piece
You see dimensions in two
State your case with black or white
But when one little cross
Leads to shots, grit your teeth
You run for cover so discreet
Why don't they

Do what they say
Say what you mean
One thing leads to another
You told me something wrong
I know I listen too long
But then one thing leads to another

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:17 PM (RJMhd)

16 I don't really get the headline. When I say "Get a grip", I'm telling someone to calm down and not overreact. Is the headline speaking to us, the public? If so, I don't see how it blasts Obama. I'm guessing I'm just missing it somehow.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 02:18 PM (8GKDa)

17
On second thought maybe we shouldn't have had most of our carriers in a bay at Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2014 02:18 PM (mgE2f)

18 Hey, he sent out a memo. That's his job. Sending out memos. Can't say he didn't do his job.


Some sh&t about results.

Posted by: fluffy at October 16, 2014 02:18 PM (Ua6T/)

19
I heard some of Obama's speech last night. Bland, blithering platitudes about ebola that anyone familiar with the news knows. Great use of the bully pulpit.

Also, I am among those who is pretty sure that the conventional wisdom is insufficient. I would rather have our premises questioned than be non-reassuringly reassured.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2014 02:18 PM (JtwS4)

20
they are going to legally, mandatorily, quarantine returning military from the region

they have the authority, but will not legally andmandatorily quarantine health care professionals who came in contact with infected patients

the medical professionals get to self monitor and self quarantine

and they get to spread it

see, the constitutional scholar in chief is not worried about the legalities of quarantining the troops.

but rather than exercise his power as executive, and ban flights and order legal mandatory quarantines, he would rather dither.. And vote present. And shift the blame to other people. He would rather act like the professor in the faculty lounge

and this is the deadly story of Obama

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2014 02:18 PM (zOTsN)

21 When they asked for my Ebola policy, I thought they said foreign policy. Since doing stupid is my default, they presumed I wanted them to do nothing.

Solid B+.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 16, 2014 02:18 PM (sDapq)

22

irright, that's because they couldn't put "WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK ARE YOU THINKING????" on the cover.

Posted by: imp at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (XIXZz)

23 >>>>The webinars the bureaucrats have posted for health-care professionals to watch (on their own time, if they feel like it)

My office does contact tracing for other diseases, mostly STDs, although I'm certain we'd be called up for this kind of work if, especially, somebody presented at our clinic like they sometimes do.

No one has pointed to any of these videos, nor informed us where any gear might be. I think I know, just not positive.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (3ZtZW)

24 "Mission Accomplished"

Posted by: USS Abraham Lincoln at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (e8kgV)

25 If George W. Bush had jumped on this problem his first day lot office, we'd have a cure by now but he was more interested in bombing Brown people.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (SJos8)

26 What scares me is that 13% of the patients in W. African show no fever or signs of the disease till blood starts squirting out of them.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (sgrzZ)

27 Obama got a set of grips. Right before the last round of 18.

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (VndSC)

28 As a commenter at Weasel Zipper said ,the only thing he could "get a grip" on is a golf club. Personally I think he surrounds himself with incompetents (like his CDC director) in hopes of looking competent in comparison. It is not working. People are realizing they have been fooled, and they don't like it.

Posted by: Chilling the most at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (wWs6x)

29 If so, I don't see how it blasts Obama.


"U.S. response still chaotic"

Posted by: fluffy at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (Ua6T/)

30
Dr. Hussein Obola, Nurse Killer.

Posted by: wth at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (wAQA5)

31

Is Cruz the only one with balls to try suggest calling Congress back to vote on a travel ban?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:20 PM (IXrOn)

32 Congratulations on doing on October 15th what you should have done on March 25th
____________________

LOL. Having done it? He hasn't done squat yet. All he's done is SAY he's going to do it.

But I admire your optimism. The triumph of hope over experience!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2014 02:20 PM (HvsPx)

33 see if that closes it

Posted by: ms. docweasel at October 16, 2014 02:20 PM (t57ij)

34 Anybody know if Children Hospital's had any EBOLA preparedness?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 16, 2014 02:20 PM (b6koZ)

35
@16 - I also have seen it used as "get control of the situation or Wake Up!".

Might be one of those regional difference things.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2014 02:20 PM (mgE2f)

36 We do have a need for test subjects on Ebola vaccines. I nominate the CDC and State Department political appointees and the White House Ebola czar as test crash dummies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 16, 2014 02:20 PM (u82oZ)

37 Given we've had months to get ready, the CDC's demonstration of incompent response should be bone chilling. How can we even suppose they will ever get containment correct.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at October 16, 2014 02:20 PM (uvjrz)

38 I seem to recall that the MSM and Democrats declared "Bush's" Katrina response a failure when FEMA had not acted within their own specified standard of three days.
Days, not weeks, or months.
And Bush or Brownie never had the gal to say something like, "Hey, those nursing home residents who drowned? Yeah, this was not the best way to handle it. We've just put a policy in place to not let that happen again."

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 02:21 PM (D/504)

39 37 Given we've had months to get ready, the CDC's demonstration of incompent response should be bone chilling. How can we even suppose they will ever get containment correct
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We're assigned to fix that

Posted by: 404Care software gurus at October 16, 2014 02:21 PM (VndSC)

40


he won't lead

he won't follow

and he won't get out of the way

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2014 02:21 PM (zOTsN)

41 Bring out yer reassured!

Posted by: The Reassured Collector at October 16, 2014 02:21 PM (sDapq)

42 Golf doesn't have a clock.

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2014 02:21 PM (YefT0)

43 Next up:

Terrorist gets ahold of some ebola-infected bedsheets and "medical waste," and puts it into a backpack with a suicide bomb, making an "Ebola Bomb," and blows himself up on the subway or in Times Square, coating everyone with his shredded body and with ebola virus, all mixed up in a bloody mess.

Posted by: zombie at October 16, 2014 02:22 PM (K4YiS)

44 Obama's CDC

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at October 16, 2014 02:22 PM (rwI+c)

45 #AbundanceOfCaution, people! They couldn't be doing any more for us.

For themselves, sure, but not for us.

Posted by: elaine at October 16, 2014 02:22 PM (Y0Piu)

46 Obola

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2014 02:22 PM (zOTsN)

47 >>>Here's how a non-bureaucrat views this situation:

Still reading this part, but interjecting at the outset that public health, as such, isn't easily monetized so having non-bureaucrats running it is kind of a non-starter.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 02:22 PM (3ZtZW)

48 Ace, your time thing (Oct 15 vs Mar 25) could have just about been referenced for the ISIS thing too.

Posted by: jb at October 16, 2014 02:22 PM (AyEGG)

49 This is one of the rare times when hindsight wisdom is completely reasonable.

yeah, duh, we expect CDC to be staffed by go getters who take things like ebola seriously.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 16, 2014 02:22 PM (udzve)

50 Obama can't stop flights from Liberia. The racist teabaggers politicized the issue of the border when they fear mongered about Dreamers bringing disease in. Now Obama's hands are tied.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2014 02:23 PM (SJos8)

51 The triumph of hope over experience!


In many ways, the story of most 2nd marriages.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 16, 2014 02:23 PM (JO9+V)

52 Then it's easy to believe
Somebody's been lying to me
But when the wrong word
Goes in the right ear
I know you've been lying to me
It's getting rough, off the cuff
I've got to say enough's enough
Bigger the harder, he falls
But when the wrong antidote
Is like a bulge on the throat
You run for cover in the heat


Why don't they do what they say, say what they mean



( sorry but damn if this song doesn't fit.)

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:23 PM (RJMhd)

53 Obama's safety protocol is simply to yell "Gardez loo!" as he empties the ebola effluvia out the window onto the crowded street below.

Posted by: zombie at October 16, 2014 02:23 PM (K4YiS)

54 #Fact Sheet

That hashtag should fix everything right up. No problemo.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 16, 2014 02:23 PM (X+nFp)

55 #AbundanceOfCaution, people!

Nope, #AbundanceOfProcrastination

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 02:23 PM (D/504)

56 I'd be satisfied with trained professionals who had common sense. From what I've heard, none of these nurses would have been infected if they had just skipped Nursing School and read a Michael Crichton novel.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 02:24 PM (2cS/G)

57 Terrorist gets ahold of some ebola-infected bedsheets and "medical waste," and puts it into a backpack with a suicide bomb, making an "Ebola Bomb," and blows himself up on the subway or in Times Square, coating everyone with his shredded body and with ebola virus, all mixed up in a bloody mess.
Posted by: zombie
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Don't put it past them. An infected suicide bomber shedding virus might just consider that.

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2014 02:24 PM (VndSC)

58 29
If so, I don't see how it blasts Obama.


"U.S. response still chaotic"

Posted by: fluffy at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM
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Yeah, I just mean the big-type "Get a grip" stuff doesn't make sense to me.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 02:24 PM (8GKDa)

59 Perhaps We have a built in assumption that govt agencies that have One Job, should have a handle on the in and outs of its function.
We believe they actually acknowledge how a disease progresses and take those risks srsly we were wrong.

when mr.s shmuck has been saying we cannot close the avenues of those countries affected because somehow this is damaging to ___?

what exactly?
has anyone asked those in Power why closing down the avenues afforded by open borders is Fair for anyone?
If they are concerned i suggest they send Those willing and capable to assist the countries in need More of what They NEED.

without exposing the whole world to death of its own citizenry all in the name of ____?

fair?
niceties?
do those really count if 10 die here ?
twenty?
what is the acceptable loses for This govt to be fair ?

our children or one of theirs?

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:24 PM (nqBYe)

60 Obama's safety protocol is simply to yell "Gardez loo!" as he empties
the ebola effluvia out the window onto the crowded street below.


He doesn't speak Austrian.

Posted by: HR, deliriously feverish at October 16, 2014 02:25 PM (/kI1Q)

61 Stop yelling at him, Daily News. He's doing the best he can, bless his heart.

Posted by: jd at October 16, 2014 02:25 PM (HuzS0)

62 41
Bring out yer reassured!


Posted by: The Reassured Collector at October 16, 2014 02:21 PM (sDapq)
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OK, that's funny.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 02:25 PM (8GKDa)

63 When people ask why is American Leadership in the World Important? THIS

When people ask why is a strong Military important? THIS

When people ask why must America always be the Worlds Policemen? BECAUSE WHO THE FUCK ELSE IS GOING TO DO IT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 02:25 PM (M0mf2)

64 You crackers are just afraid of the Black Man's superior viruses!

Posted by: zombie at October 16, 2014 02:25 PM (K4YiS)

65 Gee, I hope that this colossal clusterfuck doesn't damage the faith of Leftards in the magical competence of big government.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2014 02:25 PM (5Zuk/)

66 I don't really get the headline. When I say "Get a grip", I'm telling someone to calm down and not overreact.



And start doing your damn job!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 02:26 PM (jbo6O)

67 I'm srs about the Question they are Not asked about Why they think keeping borders open makes any sense .

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:26 PM (nqBYe)

68 The CDC is confused. They had ONE JOB, but they thought it was to find out what made lesbians' asses look fat.

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2014 02:26 PM (VndSC)

69 I'm sure our erstwhile commenter "The Progs" will be by any moment to chastise us for our hysteria and recommending we all take a midol because we're upset over the poor handling of this situation.

Posted by: Heralder at October 16, 2014 02:26 PM (/Mxso)

70
It's the ISO9000 presidency. It's about repeatable, documentable steps.

1. Do everything wrong.
2. Act real smug about it.
3. Witness disastrous results.
4. Lie about them.

Works every time in every situation.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2014 02:26 PM (JtwS4)

71 Michael Crichton was a doctor who didn't let the system destroy his sense of imagination.

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2014 02:26 PM (YefT0)

72

The good thing is that absent a MAJOR mutation, the virus does not survive outside the body more than a few hours. Terrible, and enough to spread, but limits the "dirty bomb" issue with med waste.

The REAL problem/danger is these ISIS dipshits get themselves infected on purpose (almost guaranteed with any fluid contact---it's that virulent) "for Allah", coming over here while asymptomatic and THEN blowing themselves up in a mall or a stadium.

Instant overwhelming of resources. Try manditorily quarantining 300+ separate households.

We can't even stop a lone nurse from traveling.

We're fucked. For real. Just a matter of time.

Posted by: imp at October 16, 2014 02:27 PM (XIXZz)

73 Maybe this is the problem: CDC has redefined "disease" to include things like obesity, car crashes, and cigarette-smoking.

Maybe they should rename themselves Centers for Vice Control (CVC) or Centers for Citizens Behavior Control (CCBC).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 02:27 PM (D/504)

74 Terrorist gets ahold of some ebola-infected bedsheets and "medical waste," and puts it into a backpack with a suicide bomb, making an "Ebola Bomb,"


Work accidents will involve said bomb maker drowning in his own bloody diarrhea next to the back pack.

Posted by: fluffy at October 16, 2014 02:27 PM (Ua6T/)

75
>>As a commenter at Weasel Zipper said ,the only thing he could "get a grip" on is a golf club. Personally I think he surrounds himself with incompetents (like his CDC director) in hopes of looking competent in comparison. It is not working. People are realizing they have been fooled, and they don't like it.
.
.
.
.Remember, Obama is smarter than everyone so he really doesn't need competent people in those jobs because he can do it better himself. That can only happen after he reads about it in the papers though.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2014 02:27 PM (dflEi)

76 find out what made lesbians' asses look fat.

Butter

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2014 02:27 PM (YefT0)

77 This Frieden guy is a regular Dr. Mengele with a comb-over.

Why don't we just put Bozo the Clown in charge?

Bozo! Hey Bozo! Has anybody seen Bozo?

There he is. Someone toss him a baton and the circus big hat.

Queue the circus music and vomiting, diarrhea spouting clowns.

Now send those clowns on flight across the country. Weeeeeeeeee!

Oh and let in all the clowns that want to come here from West Africa. It's not a party until you let the disease source come in droves!

Hooray! Hooray! for Ebola and the incompetent clown show!

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2014 02:27 PM (GGCsk)

78
My daughter is an ER nurse. She is not happy.
My friend is a Haz Waste Transportation Inspector for the FAA. He is scared to death.
I am a nobody to Dr. Hussein. I am pissed.

Posted by: wth at October 16, 2014 02:28 PM (wAQA5)

79 As a commenter at Weasel Zipper said ,the only thing he could "get a grip" on is a golf club.

Posted by: Chilling the most at October 16, 2014 02:19 PM (wWs6x)


...or Reggie Love

Posted by: The Hat don't play Spades... at October 16, 2014 02:28 PM (lN8KC)

80

That clock they are trying to run out has gone nuclear.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:28 PM (IXrOn)

81 >>>Yeah, I just mean the big-type "Get a grip" stuff doesn't make sense to me.

He only finds out stuff when he reads it in the papers

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 02:28 PM (3ZtZW)

82 Given we've had months to get ready, the CDC's demonstration of incompent response should be bone chilling. How can we even suppose they will ever get containment correct.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at October 16, 2014 02:20 PM (uvjrz)



To get Containment Right, they'd Start With Quarantining West Africa!

Posted by: rd at October 16, 2014 02:28 PM (J7NUM)

83 We have some Ebola information on our CDC website. So don't go acting like we've all been asleep here.

Posted by: Tom "Brownie" Frieden, Director at October 16, 2014 02:28 PM (5Zuk/)

84 Yeah, I just mean the big-type "Get a grip" stuff doesn't make sense to me.



If you were a fireman at a large warehouse fire, and you started panicking, if your chief said, "GET A GRIP", he'd mean, calm down, don't panic, and do your job. Put out the fire.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 02:28 PM (jbo6O)

85 Obola zombies everywhere.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at October 16, 2014 02:29 PM (jtgkZ)

86

But, like Rush said today. They'll keep returning to the Democrat Party, because "it's more like them."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:29 PM (IXrOn)

87 >>find out what made lesbians' asses look fat.
<<

Too much oily fish?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2014 02:29 PM (GGCsk)

88 In the four facilities that they have to handle things like Ebola, they have a total of 10 FUCKING BEDS! Seriously.

Can`t remember where I saw that, probably by the cobs on Twitter.

We. Are. Boned.

Posted by: bayou city on the tablet at October 16, 2014 02:29 PM (AJrbR)

89 I agree with iiright. I thought it was protecting Obama until I saw the red part. Even Obama's face is neutral when you know the press has tons of positive and negative Obama pics to use.

Posted by: Shoot Me at October 16, 2014 02:29 PM (EQcfE)

90 Work accidents will involve said bomb maker drowning in his own bloody diarrhea next to the back pack.

Posted by: fluffy at October 16, 2014 02:27 PM (Ua6T/)


This was the plot of an episode of NCIS or was it The Unit or maybe another show.
Some jihadis infect a "Western" looking jihadi infiltrator to go back into the US. Easy because he looks like he's from Wisconsin or Oregon.

Ofcourse, the tv government people are smart and catch him before the end of the show.

Posted by: EC at October 16, 2014 02:29 PM (GQ8sn)

91 Still struggling to get command of the country's response to Ebola more than six months after the current outbreak started in West Africa, Centers for Disease Control Director Thomas Frieden was left to spell out a principle that should have been set weeks or months ago --and backed up with stringent enforcement.


*********

Six months?

The Ebola Outbreak started in Guinea -December of 2013.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:30 PM (RJMhd)

92 Am I the only one who thinks the "Get a grip" is an odd usage? It's definitely possible that I've just always just inferred a different meaning to the phrase than everyone else does.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 02:30 PM (8GKDa)

93 >>find out what made lesbians' asses look fat.


Too much oily fish?


Clam based diet.

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 16, 2014 02:30 PM (rwI+c)

94 >>>>the virus does not survive outside the body more than a few hours

So why disinfect after a few hours? Why require clean up crews wear PPE?

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 02:30 PM (3ZtZW)

95 I guess the first seal has been broken.


When Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard and Ric Flair show up, we will know that the Four Horsemen are here.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at October 16, 2014 02:31 PM (+Fae7)

96

Man, I seriously thought that this guy could just touch these people and heal them. Jeez, I feel so let down!


Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Bunnies, PhD JD MA BS BA AAS CHRM ITL CCNA ISIS at October 16, 2014 02:31 PM (cNiT0)

97 The American health-care system's failure to prepare for Ebola became
even more terrifyingly evident with the revelation that a Dallas nurse
traveled by air after treating a patient who ultimately died from the
virus.



This is not true. Bush had put in many new protocols with the CDC just for events like this. In addition to robbing the CDC budget allocation for these events, he canceled all of Bush's protocols.


The ONLY thing Obama cares about is "social justice" which a version of communism that favors black and hates whitey.


All of this current Ebola shit can be laid directly at his feet. That includes naming an incompetent shit as the director of the CDC.

Posted by: Vic at October 16, 2014 02:31 PM (T2V/1)

98 ot

This Friday, the first lady will be in Florida for a Commit to Vote rally with gubernatorial candidate Charlie Crist, and next Tuesday will appear in Minnesota with Governor Mark Dayton and Senator Al Franken.

This really is a freak show.

h/t the weeklystandard.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:31 PM (IXrOn)

99 Man, I seriously thought that this guy could just touch these people and heal them.

Only scrofula.

Posted by: HR, deliriously feverish at October 16, 2014 02:31 PM (/kI1Q)

100 So the government have now commissioned a study, to learn why a fleet of planes that the USA bought for the Afghan Air Force at a cost of 486 million dollars have now all been sold off for scrap, yielding proceeds of 32 thousand dollars.

Let me take a wild stab at a guess here.

The government study is probably NOT going to conclude that the source of this colossal waste was... government.

So, further, on the subject of government waste, anyone remember the colossal amount of money that the feds poured into "bioterrorism preparedness" after 9/11 and the anthrax mail attacks?

Where did all of those uncountable billions of dollars go?

A pandemic and a deliberate release of a bioweapon have very considerable overlap in terms of how they spread, and how they have to be countered.

And yet it appears that this massive flood of public money was poured out, and then totally evaporated, and left no trace.

In terms of producing any durable, capable, organized means of response to rapidly spreading infections, whether naturally occurring or deliberate, the country is back to starting from near scratch.

Top. Men.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2014 02:32 PM (noWW6)

101 22

irright, that's because they couldn't put "WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK ARE YOU THINKING????" on the cover.
Posted by: imp at October 16, 2014 02:1

You forgot fuck, fuckity fuck, for fuck sake you fuck stick.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 02:32 PM (vPh3W)

102 Following the logic, our government should start subsidizing all expense paid vacations for any Americans who want to visit West Africa. Because that would be good for the epidemic or something.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2014 02:32 PM (GGCsk)

103 Here in the States, supposedly we will only have a 50% death rate



Only 50%. Shit, for a minute there I thought we had a problem.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 02:32 PM (SLea8)

104 The webinars the bureaucrats have posted for health-care professionals to watch (on their own time, if they feel like it) specify that the personal protective equipment is best utilized by "dedicated staff with years of training," per the Daily News.

We have "dedicated staff with years of training." They're at the various speciality infectious disease treatment centers, such as the CDC's unit at Emory, or the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

And where were they when ebola came to America?

This is the bureaucratic mindset in practice.

A bureaucrat sends out a memo, an email, and tells people "Follow the below protocols in ebola cases" and considers his job done.

Hey, he sent out a memo. That's his job. Sending out memos. Can't say he didn't do his job.

********

^ This.

Give 'em HELL.

This a thousand times over.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:32 PM (RJMhd)

105 Obama hates white people.

Posted by: Katrina at October 16, 2014 02:32 PM (NUCTk)

106 Remember how quickly and efficiently the government sealed off the neighborhood when they found out that ET was staying at that kid's house? I want that government.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2014 02:33 PM (5Zuk/)

107
If "get a grip" means resign, I wholeheartedly agree.
Or jump off a bridge. Or move to Sierra Leone.

Posted by: wth at October 16, 2014 02:33 PM (wAQA5)

108 And when Duncan was diagnosed with ebola, they should have sent out a team of experts to oversee the hospital's handling of the matter or simply taken over treatment of Duncan themselves.

******

And this gawd damn it.


Absolutely correct.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:33 PM (RJMhd)

109 A Yale University student who
recently returned from Liberia has been admitted to Yale-New Haven
Hospital, where he is in isolation and being evaluated for Ebola-like
symptoms.




















































Two Yale students
who had been conducting research in the West African country where
Ebola is widespread returned on Saturday, Oct. 11 and have been kept in
voluntary sequestration, Laurence Grothier, Director of Communication
for Mayor Toni Harp, said this morning.. . .
Last week, Malloy declared a public health emergency in the state as a precaution, which granted the commissioner of the state Department of Public Health the authority to quarantine and isolate people whom she "reasonably believes has been exposed to the Ebola virus."
http://tinyurl.com/mm4xz6z
Taxachusettes gets it.



Posted by: flounder at October 16, 2014 02:33 PM (sDapq)

110 OK, I am heading to the barrel.

Posted by: flounder at October 16, 2014 02:34 PM (sDapq)

111 >>>he Commander in Golf Togs finally announces:


hey, some recognition!



eleventy

Posted by: Golf Togs at October 16, 2014 02:34 PM (W6iIX)

112 The New York Daily News is exasperated that a man with no managerial skills is not competently managing.


Thanks guys! Tried to tell you that back when you were putting him on your cover like you were Tiger Beat and he was some pop star, but you were to busy squeeing and mooning over his picture.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Igor Brand Pitchforks and Torches at the Outrage Outlet! at October 16, 2014 02:34 PM (hLRSq)

113 If you were a fireman at a large warehouse fire, and
you started panicking, if your chief said, "GET A GRIP", he'd mean,
calm down, don't panic, and do your job. Put out the fire.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 02:28 PM
-----------------------------------

Yeah, I get that that must be the meaning here, it just doesn't read right to me. Anyway, I've just probably always had a slight misunderstanding of the phrase.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 02:34 PM (8GKDa)

114 88 In the four facilities that they have to handle things like Ebola, they have a total of 10 FUCKING BEDS! Seriously.

Can`t remember where I saw that, probably by the cobs on Twitter.

We. Are. Boned.
Posted by: bayou city on the tablet at October 16, 2014 02:29 PM (AJrbR)

It's 18, I saw that last night on CNN. Most hospitals have ISO rooms but they are made to contain TB so they have neg pressure only.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 16, 2014 02:34 PM (b6koZ)

115
At some point, if this contagion is not halted where it is the most
widespread, we will be faced with thousands of people very rationally
trying to get the hell out of Liberia.

Unfortunately, many of them will be infected, so their flight will serve no purpose except to put other populations at risk.





(Chalking up his pool cue, and leaning over the pool table) "Now, watch this break!"

Posted by: The Grim Reaper at October 16, 2014 02:35 PM (SLea8)

116

#AbundanceofCaution, bigby, naturally.

Should say "on dried surfaces", but it is a virus, and thus is hardier than bacteria so some could still be active for longer. Usually over in Africa, though, the UV robot is sent in shortly after the patient dies so the room can be reused quickly. They are overloaded in Africa. You can't allow a decontamination period run when you've got people literally liquefying in the streets.

Posted by: imp at October 16, 2014 02:35 PM (XIXZz)

117 And when Duncan was diagnosed with ebola, they should have sent out a team of experts to oversee the hospital's handling of the matter or simply taken over treatment of Duncan themselves.


By the insanity of cthulhu, I assumed they did. I think everyone assumed they did.

Maybe not the full out Outbreak mode, but surely the CDC hustled experts onto a plane and zipped them to Dallas where the people who specialize in infectious disease took over from the doctors for whom this is not their life work.

I mean, duh, of course they did. That's why the CDC exists.

Naive fool, that I am, I really assumed that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Beware the Jazz Hands at October 16, 2014 02:35 PM (mf5HN)

118 I'm of course hoping we can stop ebola from spreading in Liberia -- but at the current time, cases are increasing, and increasing at a rate of one doubling every three weeks.


******

It's actually worse in Sierra Leone.

That's the place with the highest R (can't type it here) value.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:35 PM (RJMhd)

119


"When Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard and Ric Flair show up, we will know that the Four Horsemen are here."

LET ME TELLA YA SOMETHIN TULLY BLANCHAD!!!



Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Bunnies, PhD JD MA BS BA AAS CHRM ITL CCNA ISIS at October 16, 2014 02:35 PM (cNiT0)

120 The New York Daily News is exasperated that a man with no managerial skills is not competently managing.





Thanks guys! Tried to tell you that back when you were putting him
on your cover like you were Tiger Beat and he was some pop star, but you
were to busy squeeing and mooning over his picture.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Igor Brand Pitchforks and Torches at the Outrage Outlet! at October 16, 2014 02:34 PM (hLRSq)


Well said.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 02:36 PM (SLea8)

121 >>>I don't really get the headline. When I say "Get a grip", I'm telling someone to calm down and not overreact. Is the headline speaking to us, the public? If so, I don't see how it blasts Obama. I'm guessing I'm just missing it somehow.

hm, that's not how I read it-- I read it as "Get a grip on your government, Mr. President."

But now that you point it out, it's easily suceptible to your interpretation.

Posted by: ace at October 16, 2014 02:36 PM (/FnUH)

122 We have "dedicated staff with years of training." They're at the various speciality infectious disease treatment centers, such as the CDC's unit at Emory, or the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

---

so , you are there but
what does it Take for them to be effective?

hey how about getting on the bus next to the guy with ebola?

I heard that was a totally safe practice!

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:36 PM (nqBYe)

123 Have you guys looked at the organizational structure of the CDC.

Someone is the *acting* director of blankety , blank.

Now why are they only the "acting" director?

Find that out and then shit your pants.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:37 PM (RJMhd)

124 98

Seriously, have you seen and heard Mark Dayton? He makes Jesse Jackson seem articulate.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 16, 2014 02:37 PM (R5UOB)

125 It's obvious that the Obama Administration is as interested in keeping Ebola out of this country as they are interested in offshore drilling. Lots of bureaucratic window dressing, but no effective action.


I'm not even puzzled by that. I AM puzzled at how they haven't done much of anything to stomp out the outbreak in West Africa.


Let's keep in mind that this administration has a history of trying to intentionally create a crisis (Fast and Furious) comes to mind, has literally been arrogant enough to say "Never let a crisis go to waste", and that the explicit strategy of Fabian Socialists involves creating upheaval so that they can remake America into their socialist Utopia (in other words, to "transform America").

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 02:37 PM (/q6+P)

126 We should just give the CDC more money. I'm sure that will fix everything.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2014 02:37 PM (g1DWB)

127 Orthogonal processes only work when the underlying steps work. Multiple layers are covering some politicians ass.

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2014 02:37 PM (YefT0)

128 Flounder, come to me.

Posted by: barrel at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (R5UOB)

129 I think I will stay in my MOPP gear thank you very much.

This administration has completely squandered CDC's credibility so no one believes their pronouncements. Which means chaos is close at hand and probably killed people who don't know they are dead yet.

Monsters the likes of which we haven't seen since I am not sure if I want to make a certain analogy. But it is getting close.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (waEDw)

130 Be careful of anything the Daily News prints. It ain't on our side

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (M0mf2)

131 Sure, it's easy to focus on the negatives, like this NYDN issue chose to do.

But, it takes a real Newspaper,with a crack team of investigative reporters to point out the positive effects.

The UN is announcing that the epidemic of global obesity may be taking a downturn soon.

http://tinyurl.com/ol26xpc

Posted by: Village Idiot'sApprentice at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (ziM/C)

132 That cover warms all of the dark corners of my black heart.

Finally, after 6 years of fellatio, somebody decided enough was enough.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (0HooB)

133 Ace:

"Here in the States, supposedly we will only have a 50% death rate--but I'm not confident that the "experts" are right about that."

I don't blame you for mistrusting the experts, but look at the cases so far. Of those deliberately brought in from Africa, already sick, two are basically out of the woods; one (we're not hearing much about) is in very dicey shape but still hanging on after a month.

Then we have the three cases we weren't expecting (but damn well should have been). Duncan died, and infected two others (that we know of). One of these has been upgraded to Good condition; the other, it's too early to say but she's getting the best care I know of.

With due caution about the statistics of small numbers, that's six patients so far. One died, one might very well die, and for one it's too early to say but I bet, and hope, she lives.

None of this is to say the government is doing great here. Nigeria's did a lot better, relative to the hand they were dealt and their resources.

Posted by: JPS at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (Himdy)

134 106 Remember how quickly and efficiently the government sealed off the neighborhood when they found out that ET was staying at that kid's house? I want that government.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2014 02:33 PM (5Zuk/)



Dutch was the President then, and only an evil government could seal off an entire neighborhood to try and catch that lovable little ET. If Obama had been President then, the government would have been trying to protect ET from the racist teabaggers that were hunting ET for their main course at their NASCAR BBQ.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (+Fae7)

135 110
OK, I am heading to the barrel.


Posted by: flounder


say hello to Mohammed, Jugdish, Sydney and Clayton...

Posted by: Doug Niedermeyer at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (NUCTk)

136 I mean, duh, of course they did. That's why the CDC exists.



Naive fool, that I am, I really assumed that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Beware the Jazz Hands at October 16, 2014 02:35 PM (mf5HN)

Can't believe everything you see on TV. A show about CDC experts sitting in their cubicles, surfing porn, and picking their noses, while realistic, is not very captivating.

Posted by: flounder - from the barrel at October 16, 2014 02:39 PM (sDapq)

137 "Get a Grip"

I thought it was referring to his golf game.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 16, 2014 02:39 PM (R5UOB)

138 The UN is announcing that the epidemic of global obesity may be taking a downturn soon.

http://tinyurl.com/ol26xpc
Posted by: Village Idiot'sApprentice at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (ziM/C)

by controlling diet and Ebola, but mostly Ebola

Posted by: MikeH at October 16, 2014 02:39 PM (NfnJU)

139 By the insanity of cthulhu, I assumed they did. I think everyone assumed they did.

Maybe not the full out Outbreak mode, but surely the CDC hustled experts onto a plane and zipped them to Dallas where the people who specialize in infectious disease took over from the doctors for whom this is not their life work.

I mean, duh, of course they did. That's why the CDC exists.

Naive fool, that I am, I really assumed that.
Posted by: alexthechick - Beware the Jazz Hands at October 16, 2014 02:35 PM (mf5HN)

!exactly!

1 fkn job.
one
uno

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:39 PM (nqBYe)

140 No one has a Twitter account yet for something like "YouHadOneJobCDC".

Posted by: Senator Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 02:39 PM (0xTsz)

141 But now that you point it out, it's easily suceptible to your interpretation.

Posted by: ace at October 16, 2014 02:36 PM (/FnUH)

So, it's a great cover. Gets both sides to pick up a copy.

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2014 02:39 PM (YefT0)

142 The UN is announcing that the epidemic of global obesity may be taking a downturn soon.

http://tinyurl.com/ol26xpc Posted by: Village Idiot'sApprentice at October 16, 2014 02:38 PM (ziM/C)


Vomiting blood tends to help with the appetite. Silver lining!

Posted by: Heralder at October 16, 2014 02:39 PM (/Mxso)

143 the CDC spent a half a billion $ on bike paths,

so we got that going for us

Posted by: Joe Biden, War Chief at October 16, 2014 02:40 PM (W6iIX)

144 The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)

they need to rewrite their name.

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:40 PM (nqBYe)

145 Where the hell are Bob Slydell and Bob Porter when you need them?

Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2014 02:40 PM (ISfVI)

146 Unlike all the disaster flicks, this is a very slow moving bio-disaster.

It is taking 3 weeks for the rate of infection to double, not hours.

But if feels like a disaster flick

Posted by: rd at October 16, 2014 02:40 PM (J7NUM)

147 Find that out and then shit your pants.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:37 PM (RJMhd)

Don't be coy. Spit it out. I'd like to shit my pants while I am still in the barrel.

Posted by: flounder - from the barrel at October 16, 2014 02:41 PM (sDapq)

148 I've had people ask me why they don't have teams with tunnels, like ET. I told them, that was NASA.

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2014 02:41 PM (YefT0)

149 First off, all of these seemingly precise and finite limits being assigned to Ebola are all speculative. Based on patients where authorities were able to trace infection dates, incubation rates, etc. Most Ebola victims are dying in the bush somewhere. If you think gripping a handrail with "Ebola fluid" on it will kill you in three hours and be harmless in 4 hours, you're basing that on nothing but anecdotes. Same with the 21 day (or 42 day) "clear" period. Feel free to bathe in their fluids on day 22 or day 43, I'll wait until there's a bit more evidence in.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 02:41 PM (2cS/G)

150 "...they should have sent out a team of experts to oversee the hospital's handling of the matter..."

Ace,

You are operating under the assumption that the CDC has these "experts." I am less and less confident that these people actually exist in the CYA bureaucracy that the CDC has become.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2014 02:41 PM (Zu3d9)

151 C- camera
D-dopey smiles
C-clutz

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:41 PM (nqBYe)

152 I've got my forsythia. I'm all set.

Posted by: Average Jen at October 16, 2014 02:41 PM (dWRQ8)

153 147 Flounder

Please... don't.

Posted by: Barrel at October 16, 2014 02:41 PM (R5UOB)

154 Maybe this is the problem: CDC has redefined "disease" to include things like obesity, car crashes, and cigarette-smoking.



Maybe they should rename themselves Centers for Vice Control (CVC) or Centers for Citizens Behavior Control (CCBC).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 02:27 PM (D/504)

________
Rename it Centers for Democrat Control and send them to Ferguson.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 02:42 PM (SLea8)

155 I thought it was referring to his golf game.

I thought it was in reference to the Aerosmith album from a few years back.

Except TFG probably doesn't know who they are unless they sing the moslem call to prayer.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2014 02:42 PM (0HooB)

156 Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 02:41 PM (2cS/G)

Sorry, Gabe says you are being hysterical.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2014 02:42 PM (Zu3d9)

157 My friends, you don't have to be afraid of 100 West Africans a day flying into the country.

Posted by: John McCain at October 16, 2014 02:42 PM (Zq4s7)

158

The mutation o a long incubation period and an uncertain infective period is going to allow this virus to spread geomertically. If they are wrong, and you can spred the virus while "asymptomatic" (more or less), then we have no means of quarantining anyone, and we can all expect to be infected at some point.

Can't wait until the small towns in the Pac NW start putting up roadblocks.

Posted by: imp at October 16, 2014 02:42 PM (XIXZz)

159 WHO recommends 42 days of quarantine and where is the CDC getting the 21 days?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 16, 2014 02:42 PM (b6koZ)

160 Argh. I forgot one missionary and one NBC cameraman in #133. So, eight cases treated in the US. Still very numbers from which to draw conclusions, but I'm relieved that we have survivors among them.

Posted by: JPS at October 16, 2014 02:42 PM (Himdy)

161 cdc= the real disease is those who dislike eating their peas.

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:42 PM (nqBYe)

162 hm, that's not how I read it-- I read it as "Get a grip on your government, Mr. President."



But now that you point it out, it's easily suceptible to your interpretation.





Posted by: ace at October 16, 2014 02:36 PM
--------------------------------------------------

I guess my Obama Derangement Syndrome just made me want a less ambiguous BIG-TYPE bitch slap of His Royal Suckitude.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 02:43 PM (8GKDa)

163 Chalking up his pool cue, and leaning over the pool table) "Now, watch this OUTbreak!" <<<<<<<<

FIFY

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2014 02:43 PM (mgE2f)

164 125 It's obvious that the Obama Administration is as interested in keeping Ebola out of this country as they are interested in offshore drilling. Lots of bureaucratic window dressing, but no effective action.


I'm not even puzzled by that. I AM puzzled at how they haven't done much of anything to stomp out the outbreak in West Africa.


Let's keep in mind that this administration has a history of trying to intentionally create a crisis (Fast and Furious) comes to mind, has literally been arrogant enough to say "Never let a crisis go to waste", and that the explicit strategy of Fabian Socialists involves creating upheaval so that they can remake America into their socialist Utopia (in other words, to "transform America").

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 02:37 PM (/q6+P)

They didn't plan this crisis.

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2014 02:43 PM (YefT0)

165 And yet both of these newspapers would endorse Obama for re-election if he were running next month.

Fuck them all.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 16, 2014 02:43 PM (0LHZx)

166 Good news! We're about to win the war on overpopulation!

Posted by: CDC at October 16, 2014 02:43 PM (SLea8)

167 Maybe I should have skipped the heart surgery ...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 16, 2014 02:43 PM (x4eKB)

168 i really believed cdc was a govt agency that probably was interested in doing srs work.

i guessed wrong.

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:44 PM (nqBYe)

169 They didn't plan this crisis.
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2014 02:43 PM (YefT0)

__________

They didn't. But they will take advantage of it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 16, 2014 02:44 PM (0LHZx)

170 hey!


which one of you jokers suggested we'd be better off w/ agent #86, Maxwell Smart, in charge?

I'll sick the NSA on you

Posted by: Joe Biden, War Chief at October 16, 2014 02:44 PM (W6iIX)

171 As a barometer, the Daily News usually can't wait to put on its knee pads for Baracco Il Magnifico. But at this point I'm less concerned about toldja so than bleeding from the eyeballs.

Posted by: NYC Parent at October 16, 2014 02:44 PM (HEo6y)

172 Definitely the people we want taking over our healthcare system!

Posted by: Norcross at October 16, 2014 02:44 PM (tmDTL)

173 The CDC is a hopeless pile of junk.

So far our most potent weapon against Ebola has been pure dumb luck.

Posted by: Lori at October 16, 2014 02:44 PM (azOe7)

174 So, 18 beds for ebola treatment but the Feds have collectively bought enough ammo to shoot everyone a hundred times over and everyone from the FBI to the Senate Lunchroom staff has their own SWAT team.

Priorities.

Posted by: B at October 16, 2014 02:44 PM (jg1FQ)

175 Yeah, well, Gabe's an idiot in more ways than one, I guess.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 02:45 PM (2cS/G)

176 Barack Hussein Ebola and his VP, Joe Virus, put all their trust in Comb-Over Mengele to save us from those Librarians!

Posted by: zombie at October 16, 2014 02:45 PM (K4YiS)

177 First off, all of these seemingly precise and finite limits being assigned to Ebola are all speculative. Based on patients where authorities were able to trace infection dates, incubation rates, etc. Most Ebola victims are dying in the bush somewhere. If you think gripping a handrail with "Ebola fluid" on it will kill you in three hours and be harmless in 4 hours, you're basing that on nothing but anecdotes. Same with the 21 day (or 42 day) "clear" period. Feel free to bathe in their fluids on day 22 or day 43, I'll wait until there's a bit more evidence in.
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 02:41 PM (2cS/G)


I still want to know how long the incubation period is for that missing 2%.

Posted by: alexthechick - Beware the Jazz Hands at October 16, 2014 02:45 PM (mf5HN)

178 The government should nationalize the CDC. Cleary the free market has failed.

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 16, 2014 02:45 PM (rwI+c)

179 I saw some of friedens testimony this afternoon. he is answering questions in a lawyerly, Sunday morning talkshow way. he refused answers to some questions.
he acted like koskinen.

he said he had not had a chance to review the transcript of the call between ebola amber joy vinson and cdc. really? how could that not have been at the top of his list of things to do. we all know the only reason he did not is so he could deny knowledge of its contents.

we have to start talking about words and consequences. the first word we should discuss is "traitor."

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 02:45 PM (iBXmZ)

180
Welcome back, Capt. Whitebread.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2014 02:45 PM (mgE2f)

181 So, it's a great cover. Gets both sides to pick up a copy.

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2014 02:39 PM
-----------------------------------

AH! Your theory appeals to my evil-capitalist innards.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (8GKDa)

182 My Queen, you were right when you proclaimed, "Outside is trying to kill us all."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (0HooB)

183 C-ausing
D-aily
C-onfusion

Posted by: the CDC at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (afb/S)

184 So far our most potent weapon against Ebola has been pure dumb luck.

and a fanatical devotion to the Pope!

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (rwI+c)

185 168 i really believed cdc was a govt agency that probably was interested in doing srs work.

i guessed wrong.
Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:44 PM (nqBYe)

____________

Obama has politicized things so much, every agency is now a political arm of the DNC. The IRS is the worst offender, but even innocuous agencies like the National Parks Service is now a political arm. Remember what they did during the "shutdown"? If park rangers are now foot soldiers for the DNC, so is everyone else who draws a paycheck from Uncle Sam (and yes this includes a good chunk of the military as well, unfortunately).

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (0LHZx)

186 @97 "All of this current Ebola shit can be laid directly at his feet. That includes naming an incompetent shit as the director of the CDC"


People keep missing the point that the CDC director is NOT incompetent. He is doing EXACTLY what he was put there to do. The problem lies in the ideological agenda of those who put him there, and we will get nowhere until that message gets out, loud and clear. Which brings us back to another thing you said:


'The ONLY thing Obama cares about is "social justice" which a version of communism that favors black and hates whitey.'


Uh huh. Now stand back and accept your persecution for DARING to say that.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (/q6+P)

187 The first and most obvious step is to stop travel into the US from the affected countries. They won't take the most obvious step.

Posted by: despair at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (j3FnZ)

188 This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Who knew Clancy was such a visionary? And a weaponized Ebola was a significant theme in Rainbow Six. I don't remember the body count from that ebola version being very low in the book.

Posted by: Admiral Penfold Painter at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (Fbt5B)

189 What's the over/under on how many cases in the US it will take before TFG caves and bans commercial air service from West Africa?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (sjdRT)

190 "Maybe I should have skipped the heart surgery ..."

Welcome back.
Glad to see your Nic!!

How ya feeling?

Posted by: Village Idiot'sApprentice at October 16, 2014 02:47 PM (ziM/C)

191 HO recommends 42 days of quarantine and where is the CDC getting the 21 days?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 16, 2014 02:42 PM (b6koZ)



TFG is only international when it serves him.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:47 PM (IXrOn)

192 I think we can safely eliminate Dr. Lurie's position. She is supposed to be in charge of the response team to pandemic threats. I did see her briefly on CBS yesterday, but she is clearly missing in action.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2014 02:47 PM (JKNZq)

193 Vomiting blood tends to help with the appetite.
Silver lining!



Liquid insides supresses your appetite!
Profit!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 02:47 PM (jbo6O)

194 This is an example of the best and brightest from the CDC.

http://tinyurl.com/q7skd6m

Posted by: rd at October 16, 2014 02:47 PM (J7NUM)

195 Have I mentioned that my spacebar is operating about like the CDC?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (ziM/C)

196 Breaking: The CDC is asking airline workers in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone to ask all passengers if they've traveled to Guinea, Liberia, or Sierra Leone within the past 21 days.

Posted by: Seedy See at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (nlQae)

197 IIRS when it was confirmed that Duncan had Ebola, the CDC did dispatch a 10 person team.

A few doctors, a few people to do contact trace. And ONE media person.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (waEDw)

198 >> I did see her briefly on CBS yesterday, but she is clearly missing in action.

What did she say?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (D/504)

199 from DailyKos: "Testimony from public health officials in the Senate a few weeks ago and subsequent media follow up has pointed out a serious deficit for public health funding. In fact, NIH Director Francis Collins said, point blank "if we had not gone through our 10-year slide in research support, we probably would have had a vaccine in time for this that would've gone through clinical trials and would have been ready." These reports led House Democrats to call for a hearing on the lack of funding for the Ebola crisis."

[and if Gore had been President, the Trade Center attack wouldn't have happened. Scientific opinion changes from time to time but left-wing delusions live on for ever.]

Posted by: mallfly at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (bJm7W)

200 My friends, our tax dollars are better spent exploring the hows and whys of lesbian obesity and the relationships destroyed by same.

Posted by: John McCain at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (Zq4s7)

201 Is the Daily News saying "get a grip..." to obama or are they trying to convey that's what Obama is saying to the American public?

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (v0/PR)

202 I thought this was funny.

John Ondrasik @johnondrasik

Anyone else concerned the CDC director is a robot?



More like a Soros/Jarrett/Obama hand-puppet... They take turns.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:49 PM (IXrOn)

203 The first and most obvious step is to stop travel into the US from the affected countries. They won't take the most obvious step.
Posted by: despair at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (j3FnZ)


Actually no that's only the third step.

1) STOP all travel out of the infected areas
2) STOP all travel into and thru any transit points
3) NOW- STOP all travel into the US from infected areas

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 02:49 PM (M0mf2)

204 179 "I saw some of friedens testimony this afternoon. he is answering questions in a lawyerly, Sunday morning talkshow way. he refused answers to some questions.
he acted like koskinen. ..."


He couldn't even answer basic questions as to how much stuff and how many people are going to and from West Africa. So he's not really even trying to handle the outbreak over there.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 02:49 PM (/q6+P)

205 no one on the panel testifying before congress could even say how many flights go into or out of the affected countries every day. how can frieden argue how essential commercial air travel is if he does not know how many flights there are?

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 02:49 PM (iBXmZ)

206 Maybe I should have skipped the heart surgery ...

And miss all this?

Good to see you back Cap'n, although hanging out here will probably impede your recovery.

You do get a Get Out of Teh Barrel coupon good for several uses or until Teh Barrel decides its had enough of you.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2014 02:49 PM (0HooB)

207 Open the pod bay doors, Hal.

Obama, clad only in a hazmat suit, drifts away into open space.

-----------------------------

There, I feel better already.

Posted by: zombie at October 16, 2014 02:49 PM (K4YiS)

208 No no Captain Whitebread, glad you had surgery.

But the important question is - Did You Have The Fish?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 02:50 PM (waEDw)

209
Well, at least the "photograph Obama with a halo" meme has been busted.

He looks well and truly befuddled in that picture.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2014 02:50 PM (JtwS4)

210 Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 02:49 PM (M0mf2)


look at you, #banBossy

Posted by: Joe Biden, War Chief at October 16, 2014 02:50 PM (W6iIX)

211 For the CDC to say it was a "poor" decision to let that Nurse fly is one of the biggest understatements I ever heard. They should all be fired and jailed just for that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 02:50 PM (M0mf2)

212 "We're back!"

-The Gods of the Copybook Headings

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Igor Brand Pitchforks and Torches at the Outrage Outlet! at October 16, 2014 02:50 PM (hLRSq)

213 As a barometer, the Daily News usually can't wait to put on its knee pads for Baracco Il Magnifico. But at this point I'm less concerned about toldja so than bleeding from the eyeballs.

Posted by: NYC Parent at October 16, 2014 02:44 PM (HEo6y)


Why not both?

Posted by: エボラちゃん at October 16, 2014 02:50 PM (lN8KC)

214 Find that out and then shit your pants.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 16, 2014 02:37 PM (RJMhd)

Do not recommend...trust me.

Posted by: Al Roker at October 16, 2014 02:51 PM (o2Jt2)

215 Obama, clad only in a hazmat suit, drifts away into open space.


meh, he would just think he was filming a new Gravity movie scene

Where's Clooney? he asks.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:51 PM (IXrOn)

216 >>>Argh. I forgot one missionary and one NBC cameraman in #133. So, eight cases treated in the US.

Theoretically, as a 3rd iteration we should be brewing up 16 more as we type.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 02:51 PM (3ZtZW)

217 Maybe not the full out Outbreak mode, but surely the CDC hustled experts onto a plane and zipped them to Dallas where the people who specialize in infectious disease took over from the doctors for whom this is not their life work.

I mean, duh, of course they did. That's why the CDC exists.

Naive fool, that I am, I really assumed that.
Posted by: alexthechick - Beware the Jazz Hands at October 16, 2014 02:35 PM (mf5HN)

Yeah, but that would have taken time away from their attack on gunzzz.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 16, 2014 02:51 PM (ms3It)

218 Over / under on CDC's email server's hard disk mysteriously crashing?

Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2014 02:51 PM (cbfNE)

219 They had enough money. It was their priorities. They would rather pursue "social justice" goals with research money

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2014 02:51 PM (zOTsN)

220 Welcome back, Capt. Whitebread.


What Guy said.

Posted by: fluffy at October 16, 2014 02:51 PM (Ua6T/)

221 110 OK, I am heading to the barrel.
Posted by: flounder at Octobe

Probably safer there if the CDC or TFG hasn't touched it

Glad your back Capt. WB

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 02:51 PM (vPh3W)

222 Breaking: The CDC is asking airline workers in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone to ask all passengers if they've traveled to Guinea, Liberia, or Sierra Leone within the past 21 days.
Posted by: Seedy See at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (nlQae)


If they are in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone then the answer is "yes" you knuckleheads.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Igor Brand Pitchforks and Torches at the Outrage Outlet! at October 16, 2014 02:52 PM (hLRSq)

223 frieden also would not answer where he got the idea that maintaining commercial travel was responsible for protecting the fledgling democracies in the hot zone. the chairman asked him a couple a times and effing frieden simply ignored him.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 02:52 PM (iBXmZ)

224 'The ONLY thing Obama cares about is "social justice" which a version of communism that favors black and hates whitey.'



He shouldn't have backed a disease that kills more blacks than whites then.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 02:52 PM (jbo6O)

225
One of the things about Congress when they have a witness is they won't ask simple yes and no questions and force an answer repeatedly.

Ex: if 2 more "Duncans" enter and infect 4 more nurses would you recommend we ban flights and persons from West Africa?

No? then if 4 more "Duncans" enter and infect 16 more nurses would you recommend we ban flights and persons from West Africa?

Show his complete idiocy when he never says yes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2014 02:52 PM (mgE2f)

226 WTF is the CDC working for? The American populace? Prove it. They haven't taken one step that indicates that they're working in our best interest when in come to infectious disease. That's their sole mission, and they've failed miserably. How long would any of us hold a position with such incompetence?

Posted by: Upgrayedd, running my pimp game at October 16, 2014 02:52 PM (rGAnP)

227 Welcome Capt Whitebread! Hope you are feeling better every day.

Posted by: @votermom at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (cbfNE)

228 218 Over / under on CDC's email server's hard disk mysteriously crashing?
Posted by: @votermom a

Why do you ask? Have subpoenas been issued?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (vPh3W)

229 Is there anybody left in Sierra Leone, Guinea or Liberia who hasn't been exposed to ebola?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (g1DWB)

230 Breaking: The CDC is asking airline workers in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone to ask all passengers if they've traveled to Guinea, Liberia, or Sierra Leone within the past 21 days.
Posted by: Seedy See at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (nlQae
--

why of course Not!

Posted by: Duncan at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (nqBYe)

231 Seeing that we had that major smallpox and anthrax scare due to the CDC back in June, I have great confidence in them now.

Posted by: Heralder at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (/Mxso)

232 LA Times? The ones who still sit on a video of Obama and some radical? The ones who agitated, obfuscated and lied to get Obama elected?

Posted by: despair at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (j3FnZ)

233 If they are in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone then the answer is "yes" you knuckleheads.

Shouldn't this be a Ben Roethlisberger sock?

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (rwI+c)

234 To help curtail the spread of Ebola, the White House announced today that it is imposing a travel ban on all members of Conservative-leaning PACs.

Posted by: Seedy See at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (nlQae)

235 Oh and hey --

Ace, if you need to escape the encroaching ebola zombies, you can stay .... in my garage for about 21 days. But you gotta help me clean if out, yo.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (3ZtZW)

236 Welcome back Captain Whitebread!


My Queen, you were right when you proclaimed, "Outside is trying to kill us all."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2014 02:46 PM (0HooB)


*POINTS WILDLY*

Posted by: alexthechick - Beware the Jazz Hands at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (mf5HN)

237 I mentioned this yesterday and earlier today, but got busy and didn't have a chance to follow up.

Why doesn't our team, especially Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, step up to the plate and declare that the CDC and the Obama administration are incompetent?

Perry can bring in private sector experts, make preparations for more patients, put in common sense protocols, restrict travel, in short do everything the federal government should be doing.

Show leadership. Give the people confidence that top men are in charge.

This would do more to swing people to the right and reclaim Perry's spot in the succession to president than anything else.

If Romney did went to the microphones in the same sense for the country, rallying private enterprise to establish isolation units, experts and protocols, he would further the idea that it's not a bad thing to have competent people in charge.

Use the crisis to show people what the difference is between a liberal and a conservative.

Make them afraid to ever elect another liberal.

Fuck.

Why do I even have to explain this shit?

Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (u2a4R)

238 now obama is talking about nationalizing the guard so aid will get to ebola faster. WTF?

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (iBXmZ)

239 I predict Obama will issue the travel ban a few days before the election. Early enough to boost a few donks over the finish line, but far too late to contain the epidemic.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (ltlSX)

240 Obama annoyed by weak Ebola response from France, Italy and others

Speaking to reporters after an emergency meeting with top aides on Wednesday, the president put his personal annoyance on full display as he portrayed the international response to the crisis as hesitant and shortsighted and warned that it endangered American national security.




What a surprise. It's everyone else's fault. Dr. Barry just can't do it all himself

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (1Jaio)

241 Update: At Congressional Hearings, Panel Says 100-150 People From Ebola-Infected Countries Enter the US, Per Day
--Ace



yep

Laura I was talking about this. She couldn't believe how high it was.

Neither could I.

But, then, I was just being silly.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (IXrOn)

242 @164 "They didn't plan this crisis."


Never let a crisis go to waste.


Also, that's kind of like saying that if I don't ever change the oil in my car, even when the oil light comes on, that I'm still not "planning" on having a catastrophic engine failure.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (/q6+P)

243 If they are in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone then the answer is "yes" you knuckleheads.

*headdesk*

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (0HooB)

244 I think we can safely eliminate Dr. Lurie's
position. She is supposed to be in charge of the response team to
pandemic threats. I did see her briefly on CBS yesterday, but she is
clearly missing in action.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2014 02:47 PM (JKNZq)


Witness protection.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (SLea8)

245 Breaking: The CDC is asking airline workers in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone to ask all passengers if they've traveled to Guinea, Liberia, or Sierra Leone within the past 21 days.
Posted by: Seedy See at October 16, 2014 02:48 PM (nlQae

of course not!

Posted by: Nurse at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (nqBYe)

246 Dallas now trying to legally quarantine at risk health care workers. Which the CDC won't do

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (zOTsN)

247 In lighter news, I approve of #gamerfruit.

Ah, ye Internets.

Posted by: CM at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (0NdlF)

248 cdc, telling you your wedding plans set precedence over the health of 130 other people plans.

Posted by: Nurse at October 16, 2014 02:55 PM (nqBYe)

249 The CDC said that they were going to try to contain ebola. That's good enough for government work.

Posted by: Soona at October 16, 2014 02:55 PM (JbuGO)

250 "If they are in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone then the answer is "yes" you knuckleheads."

Not necessarily.

If one is in an airport an any of those countries, the key question would be "Are you intending to fly FROM here, to someplace else?".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2014 02:55 PM (ziM/C)

251 This is the same administration who couldn't get the VA fixed, even though TFG used its disarray as a fucking campaign issue. They left veterans to die at home while doctors and administrators fiddled the records to earn bonuses while not doing their one job: provide medical care to veterans.

Why will this be different? And the asshats in Congress have done NOTHING to fix the VA and will do NOTHING to fix the CDC.

They think they can wait this out. its a "political storm", they think. Its the midterms, and all the political fever that comes with midterms, they think.

When people are dying in the streets maybe they will finally realize the difference.

Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2014 02:55 PM (LISuA)

252 "Relentless Air Strikes"? Shep get a grip

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 02:55 PM (M0mf2)

253 I predict Obama will issue the travel ban a few days before the election. Early enough to boost a few donks over the finish line, but far too late to contain the epidemic.
Posted by: mugiwara at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (ltlSX)



yep - wouldn't put it past him

I wouldn't be shocked if all of a sudden Tahmooressi miraculously gets released from Mexican jail.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:56 PM (IXrOn)

254 Shep needs a vacation. To Liberia

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2014 02:56 PM (zOTsN)

255 Calling Dr. Lister, Dr. Snow, Dr. Lister.

Calling Dr. Lister, Dr. Snow, Dr. Lister.

Posted by: zombie at October 16, 2014 02:56 PM (K4YiS)

256 >>If they are in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone then the answer is "yes" you knuckleheads.

Heh.

But seriously, let's cede responsibility for protecting our country from incoming cases of Ebola to the overworked/frightened governments and airline personnel in Africa. Because I'm sure protecting Americans is at the top of their To Do list. Unlike, say, our own government.

The stupid...flames on my face!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 02:56 PM (D/504)

257 Have there been any updates on Duncan's family lately? They were pretty chatty with Anderson Cooper before they were moved to quarantine in that "gated community." If they are still healthy, why haven't we heard any reports about them?

Posted by: not the mama at October 16, 2014 02:56 PM (5dxeo)

258 The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

Posted by: Shemp Smith at October 16, 2014 02:56 PM (W5DcG)

259 Even now, Top Men are working around the clock, looking for ways to blame the GOP for the Ebola outbreak.

Let the blamecasting begin!

Posted by: Blake at October 16, 2014 02:57 PM (WuGBT)

260 Fire Frieden.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 02:57 PM (KJWdN)

261
He shouldn't have backed a disease that kills more blacks than whites then.
Posted by: rickb223

Oh we are still early in the game. The fat lady hasn't even gone to her dressing room yet. (Insert Moochelle jokes here)

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 02:57 PM (vPh3W)

262
I think we can safely eliminate Dr. Lurie's
position. She is supposed to be in charge of the response team to
pandemic threats. I did see her briefly on CBS yesterday, but she is
clearly missing in action.



Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2014 02:47 PM (JKNZq)

Witness protection.


Posted by: Jay Guevara

----

More like - Witless Protection

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 02:57 PM (waEDw)

263 239 "I predict Obama will issue the travel ban a few days before the election. Early enough to boost a few donks over the finish line, but far too late to contain the epidemic."


Plausible. But you left out the part where everything he said he was doing, or will do later, turns out to be either a complete sham or an empty promise.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 02:57 PM (/q6+P)

264 to bad Obama's cdc guy didn't ask everyone to go shopping or something, Than people would take notice!

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:57 PM (nqBYe)

265 Remember about a month ago when Bob Beckel predicted the Donks had a big October surprise coming? Something to do with national security.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (sjdRT)

266 no pain - no gain

Posted by: ebola at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (nqBYe)

267 This ebola thing is a hoax. All you need to get over it is vitamins and exercise.

Posted by: Tom Cruise at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (dWRQ8)

268 They're eating people in the Superdome!

Posted by: Shep Smith, totally not gay at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (HstNY)

269 224 He shouldn't have backed a disease that kills more blacks than whites then.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 02:52 PM (jbo6O)


Why do you think he is against blocking travel from the effected zones in Africa and allowing it here? That is the only reason it is killing more blacks, it is still centered in Africa.

Posted by: Vic at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (T2V/1)

270 Gee the air strikes have dropped 14 whole bombs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (M0mf2)

271 Barack: Val, let's f*ck this country up so bad it'll take the GOP twenty years to put it back the way it was.

Valerie: No.

Barack: No?

Valerie: Thirty years, and it'll never be the same.

Barack: You the boss.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (KJWdN)

272 WTF is the CDC working for?

Posted by: Upgrayedd, running my pimp game at October 16, 2014 02:52 PM (rGAnP)


A cushy retirement package.

Posted by: You typical Civil Servent Master at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (lN8KC)

273 What size bullet is most effective on Ebola?

Askin' for a National Guard Friend

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (ziM/C)

274 I think we can safely kiss Halloween good-bye.

Election day, Thanksgiving, Black Friday, and Christmas not looking too good either.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 02:59 PM (waEDw)

275 The Ebola Outbreak started in Guinea -December of 2013.

-
Dig deep enough and you will always find an Italian.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2014 02:59 PM (XUKZU)

276 Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (sjdRT)

i remember, but i don't think This is what they were planning.

how can This help the jerk?

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:59 PM (nqBYe)

277
Gardner: ANd, Mr. Wagner you admitted we're screening 94% of those people?
John P. Wagner: As of today that covers about 94%.


I love the Fallacy of Exactness. You take a made up number and give it a decimal point and it looks exact.

If we know with certainty that we're screening 94%, that means we know the exact number we're not screening. Why wouldn't we screen them?

Because we don't know how many there actually are. Which means a bogus statistic.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2014 02:59 PM (JtwS4)

278 224 "He shouldn't have backed a disease that kills more blacks than whites then."


His actions suggest that he's looking to "right that wrong".

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 02:59 PM (/q6+P)

279 Lurie basically said the same sort of stuff that Frieden says. I just happened to recognize her face from that article talking about the Ebola czar. It was a lot like watching Susan Rice talk.

And the cover should have said "Get a Clue"

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2014 02:59 PM (JKNZq)

280 well, it seems to me that the proper thing to do is scatter potential Ebola patients to hospitals throughout the country in order to reduce the concentration of the disease in any one place.

Posted by: mallfly at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (bJm7W)

281 I still want to know what Obama promised those African leaders back in early August when British Airways saw the outbreak and started to prohibit flights.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (KJWdN)

282 Election day, Thanksgiving, Black Friday, and Christmas not looking too good either.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 02:59 PM (waEDw)

Well I am hoping Election Day is going to be berry berry good to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (M0mf2)

283 >>I predict Obama will issue the travel ban a few days before the election.

Not so sure. Obama is nothing if not stubborn. And he hasn't lifted one finger to stop immigrants flooding across our border. I think it would take something significant - maybe multiple unions going on strike (nurses, airline personnel, border patrol agents).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (D/504)

284 Hate to point out obvious, but you know what terrorists are thinking:
Lets send 100 infected sleepers to USA. After 2 weeks, we announce the verifiable routes of 10 infected- we give 'em $ for 2weeks of travel on airplanes, Tell one to get a job at fast food. Tell one to hang out in shopping mall. At 2 weeks, we you tube their travels and the USA grind to a halt.

Posted by: scott at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (7S1U8)

285 268 They're eating people in the Superdome!
Posted by: Shep Smith, totally not gay
---------------------------



Oooooh. On my way.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (VndSC)

286 I think we can safely kiss Halloween good-bye.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 02:59 PM (waEDw)


Thanks to me, you won't need an expensive costume this Halloween!

Posted by: Ebola-chan at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (lN8KC)

287 Gee Ace, why do you doubt what the government is telling us? Just because they lie about everything else, and have been caught lying multiple times on ebola? Sheesh.

Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (xWW96)

288 Is there anybody, anybody at all, connected with this Administration who has the faintest idea of how to do his job?

It's a rhetorical question.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (SLea8)

289 It troubles me by realizing just how absent Rick Perry seems to be with this whole thing in TX.

Posted by: Soona at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (JbuGO)

290 I don't want to die yet

Posted by: jewells45loves her Royals! at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (l/N7H)

291 "Why doesn't our team, especially Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, step up to the plate and declare that the CDC and the Obama administration are incompetent?"

Perry was on the newswires yesterday with vague blather about how "the system is working, something something".

Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (noWW6)

292 I'll never forget the horror in my childhood of hearing the fire sirens going off, the telephone ringing, and my father informing us our school was on fire. He had served as a volunteer fireman for about a decade, but had left active duty, still on the call list. He grabbed his keys and headed to the school, while I went up to my second floor window and watched a corner of the school in flames.

Half an hour later, he was back. Only about 25% of the school was now on fire, but he announced, 'They lost it.' They did. It burned completely to the ground. By morning, just a pile of smoking rubble.

It was an extremely narrow window of opportunity to control the fire. So it will be with Ebola.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (Zq4s7)

293 Oh we are still early in the game. The fat lady hasn't even gone to her dressing room yet. (Insert Moochelle jokes here)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 02:57 PM (vPh3W)


well, since there are not any vaccines abailable and onl a handful of medical facilities, education and discipline are going to be essential to surviving the obamapocalypse. low literacy is not your friend in these circumstances.

looting is in the obamapocalypse only gets you through the weekend.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (iBXmZ)

294 >Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 02:59 PM (nqBYe)<



I agree - I didn't mean this was their surprise. Its gonna have to be a doozy to overcome this cluster fark.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (sjdRT)

295 ebola could care less what nationality or ethnic group you belong to.

it's equality all a round.

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2014 03:01 PM (nqBYe)

296 Obama is a decent person, and a person that you do not have to be scared as President of the United States.

And my underwear is too tight.

Posted by: John McCain at October 16, 2014 03:01 PM (8A6wH)

297 288 Is there anybody, anybody at all, connected with this Administration who has the faintest idea of how to do his job?

It's a rhetorical question.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
---------------------------

Yo. over here!

Posted by: WH janitor with the plunger at October 16, 2014 03:01 PM (VndSC)

298 How many millions has Liberian Ebola dude already cost the American taxpayer? Are we up to tens of millions yet?

What % of that Dallas hospital staff are now at home under quarantined -- it's 50-70 people, right?

How has that hurt the care of the other people sick there?

We can't have the entire medical system in a major city taken out by one guy.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 16, 2014 03:01 PM (ZPrif)

299 Hate to point out obvious, but you know what terrorists are thinking:
Lets
send 100 infected sleepers to USA. After 2 weeks, we announce the
verifiable routes of 10 infected- we give 'em $ for 2weeks of travel on
airplanes, Tell one to get a job at fast food. Tell one to hang out in
shopping mall. At 2 weeks, we you tube their travels and the USA grind
to a halt.


Posted by: scott at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (7S1U


Yep. World Series? Super Bowl? You bet.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:01 PM (SLea8)

300 As some have pointed out on the previous thread.

The head of the CDC needs to be fired.
And replaced with
Former Mayor Ray Nagin.

A man with clear leadership skills,and the ability to operate successfully in a high tempo, crisis environment.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2014 03:01 PM (ziM/C)

301 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2014 02:55 PM (ziM/C)


They have to be in those countries to answer a question asked of them by airline personnel in those countries. If they are not from those countries then they have travelled to them, even if they are passing through to someplace else.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Igor Brand Pitchforks and Torches at the Outrage Outlet! at October 16, 2014 03:01 PM (hLRSq)

302 maybe we should sick Lois Lerner on it?

She' proven to be a real go to girl

Posted by: Joe Biden, War Chief at October 16, 2014 03:01 PM (W6iIX)

303 Meanwhile these Liberian fucks are suing the hospital and calling America for not saving the life of their lying, Ebola-spreading relative.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (ZPrif)

304 Test results should be back by 4:00ish for the person in Yale New Haven hospital with ebola like symptoms...his fever is down...hopefully the tests will come back negative.

Posted by: KWdreaming at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (8QW0x)

305 If I dress as Ebola for Halloween, what are the odds a SWAT team shoots me and my dog?

Posted by: Seedy See at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (nlQae)

306 And my underwear is too tight.

Posted by: John McCain at October 16, 2014 03:01 PM (8A6wH)

You need the grande size of Depends.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (SLea8)

307 "Have there been any updates on Duncan's family lately? They were pretty chatty with Anderson Cooper before they were moved to quarantine in that 'gated community.'"

Memory Hole Estates.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (noWW6)

308 Gee is shep one fuckin idiot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (M0mf2)

309 Calling Dr. Lister, Dr. Snow, Dr. Lister.


Dr Fine and I will be substituting for them today.

Posted by: Dr. Howard at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (Ua6T/)

310 Just wait till they bring out their big guns, like Jamie Gorelick.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (KJWdN)

311 Is there anybody, anybody at all, connected with this Administration who has the faintest idea of how to do his job?

Bo can crap on the lawn like a champ.

Posted by: HR, deliriously feverish at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (/kI1Q)

312
"Surprise!!"

Posted by: October at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (hmAXB)

313 well, it seems to me that the proper thing to do is scatter potential Ebola patients to hospitals throughout the country in order to reduce the concentration of the disease in any one place.

==========

Decentralization is to be sought after in everything except governmental control.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 03:02 PM (3ZtZW)

314 The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

I can't believe this is an inspirational quote. It's absolutely meaningless. Tautology at its best. Yet it is touted as something to be admired. Only f#cking ret@ard$ would considerate anything but political pablum.

Posted by: Upgrayedd, running my pimp game at October 16, 2014 03:03 PM (rGAnP)

315 How about Rudy in charge at CDC. Proven crisis management skills. People would react with relief I think.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2014 03:03 PM (sjdRT)

316 Laura I was talking about this. She couldn't believe how high it was.



Neither could I.



But, then, I was just being silly.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (IXrOn)


And they are still issuing visas right and left to non-citizens.

Posted by: Vic at October 16, 2014 03:03 PM (T2V/1)

317 Half an hour later, he was back. Only about 25% of the school was now on fire, but he announced, 'They lost it.' They did. It burned completely to the ground. By morning, just a pile of smoking rubble.

It was an extremely narrow window of opportunity to control the fire. So it will be with Ebola.Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (Zq4s7)Excellent example, and very appropriate.

Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2014 03:03 PM (xWW96)

318 @237


Amen! All excellent points!! Maybe we'll see something from Perry before long, but there may be legal restrictions.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 03:03 PM (/q6+P)

319 CNN has found it's angle: Ebola is spreading from a Texas hospital.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2014 03:03 PM (TUdDL)

320 I really, really want to know what ValJar is going to do about ebola.

Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2014 03:04 PM (xWW96)

321 So should I set up a GoFundMe to create that commercial?

The commercial selling pre-cut shrink wrap that is people shaped. Person sandwiches themselves between two of the pre-cut sheets while someone else uses a hair dryer to shrink and seal?

That way raise so much money can escape to that Chilean island that has the Hobbit bungalows?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 03:04 PM (waEDw)

322 I don't expect Mitt to do much. He holds no Office, is running for none. I suppose he could throw himself on the pyre as a sacrificial lamb to be consumed by the media, but apart from private charity he can't really do much. Perry not only could be effective, but should be effective for his own political self-interest.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 03:04 PM (2cS/G)

323 268
They're eating people in the Superdome!

Posted by: Shep Smith, totally not gay at October 16, 2014 02:58 PM (HstNY)

flashback lol

Posted by: flounder - from the barrel at October 16, 2014 03:04 PM (sDapq)

324 Remember about a month ago when Bob Beckel predicted the Donks had a big October surprise coming? Something to do with national security.

-
Maybe the ISIS has chemical weapons that W was too dumb to find story from a couple of days ago?

Or, as the NYT was saying, these are not the weapons of mass destruction Bush was looking for.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2014 03:04 PM (XUKZU)

325 Hate to point out obvious, but you know what terrorists are thinking:
Lets send 100 infected sleepers to USA. After 2 weeks, we announce the verifiable routes of 10 infected- we give 'em $ for 2weeks of travel on airplanes, Tell one to get a job at fast food. Tell one to hang out in shopping mall. At 2 weeks, we you tube their travels and the USA grind to a halt.
Posted by: scott at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (7S1U



Clancy discussed it as well. driving a truck loaded with explosives into a building and vaporizing yourself is different than some suicide ebola jhadi infecting himself and suffering a slow lingering existence for 30 days.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 03:04 PM (iBXmZ)

326 284 for that you wouldn't need to actually have any infected sleepers. Just on your say so everything would start shutting down.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 03:05 PM (3ZtZW)

327 Well now we know how to get the media to do their fcuking job; threaten their lives with a virulent disease.

That's gotten their attention.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2014 03:05 PM (KK+mC)

328 199 from DailyKos: "Testimony from public health officials in the Senate a few weeks ago and subsequent media follow up has pointed out a serious deficit for public health funding. In fact, NIH Director Francis Collins said, point blank "if we had not gone through our 10-year slide in research support, we probably would have had a vaccine in time for this that would've gone through clinical trials and would have been ready." These reports led House Democrats to call for a hearing on the lack of funding for the Ebola crisis."
_______________________________________

What utter bull$hit. During that "10-year slide" the CDC's budget nearly doubled. They've had billions to spend on developing a vaccine, and they've pissed the money away on anti-smoking ad campaigns, bike paths, studies on domestic violence, anti-obesity campaigns and a mountain of other irrelevant PC $hit. And for fiscal year 2014, the Republicans in congress gave the CDC even MORE money than Obama had requested for it in his budget.

It is ludicrous for these idiots to try and blame their gross incompetence and their complete lack of preparation for this very foreseeable situation on a lack of money. It's not money the CDC lacks -- it's f*cking common sense.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2014 03:05 PM (HvsPx)

329 Will this be the crisis that will "force" elections to be cancelled in a few weeks?

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at October 16, 2014 03:05 PM (25KoS)

330 The US Army and USMC have NBC response teams complete with decontamination showers, etc. They've had these for decades.

How is it that the CDC hasn't lobbied congress to have 100 or more Mobile Critical Isolation and Decontamination facilities built, and stored all around the country?

The nurses in Dallas should have been trained by the crew of one of these vehicles, within 24 hours of confirmation.

The nurses in Dallas should have come out of the Ebola room/ward, right into the decontamination showers (in the portable unit) and been sprayed down before they so much as touched a glove to take it off.

Who's going to pay for all of this kind of thing? We are. And we will gladly pay. THIS is what taxes are for. THIS is the first job of our government - defend the nation.

Not study fat lesbians. Not build 50 foot video screens. Not name facilities after senators.

Our president should be impeached, yes, but he's hardly the only one. There are MD's in congress, for crying out loud. Surely they have full knowledge of the influenza's and plagues that have decimated... no, decimated means "10%," have TRIPLE AND QUADRUPLE DECIMATED whole nations.

If nothing else, surely they knew that ebola, anthrax, and so many other horrible diseases can and will be weaponized - and will find their way into the hands of the lunatics like ISIS.

Congress is shameful. They have thrown our children under the bus, just to secure their own power.

Let's see how this plays out. Let's pray that it stops soon.

Posted by: RobM1981 at October 16, 2014 03:05 PM (zurJC)

331
"If you were a fireman at a large warehouse fire, and

you started panicking, if your chief said, 'GET A GRIP', he'd mean, calm down, don't panic, and do your job. Put out the fire."

"GET A GRIP" fits onto the page in huge type; "GROW THE FUCK UP" doesn't.

Posted by: Brown Line at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (xgyfF)

332 A better, less confusing headline would have been:

"FOR GOD'S SAKE, DO YOUR JOB!"

Followed two weeks later by another photo of Obama, after more inevitable ebola deaths caused by his ineffectual flailing around, with:

"WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU??"

That might begin to break through the thick skulls at least some New York City liberals.

Posted by: Observer-in-Chief at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (+DIGX)

333 >>>Thanks to me, you won't need an expensive costume this Halloween!

I'm going as a plague doctor anyway.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (3ZtZW)

334 How about Rudy in charge at CDC. Proven crisis management skills. People would react with relief I think.

TFG putting somebody in charge who's actually competent?

That makes sense, so forget it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (0HooB)

335 Clancy discussed it as well. driving a truck loaded with explosives into a building and vaporizing yourself is different than some suicide ebola jhadi infecting himself and suffering a slow lingering existence for 30 days.Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 03:04 PM (iBXmZ) Some guys will suffer anything to get laid.

Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (xWW96)

336 You might want to clear your cache before you criticize me.
Not that it will help.

We own you, America.

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GOOGLE overtakes GOLDMAN in political donations... http://drudge.tw/1qDxdvZ

Posted by: Mark Fuckerberg at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (ZPrif)

337 "What % of that Dallas hospital staff are now at home under quarantined -- it's 50-70 people, right?"

Dr. Betsey McCaughey quoted a figure that said that based on the Duncan case, it takes 20 healthcare workers to handle one Ebola victim.

With the majority of those HCWs being highly trained, not easily replaced intensive care specialists.

And 2 of the 20 were infected with Ebola themselves in the process. So, a 10% rate.

This _so_ does not scale.

Numbers like that mean that if there is an outbreak with just a few thousand Ebola victims nationwide, the USA's entire hospital system goes on diversion.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (noWW6)

338 obama's handling of ebola is so bad I am starting to worry that he is negotiating with the russians to target ourselves with our own nukes.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (iBXmZ)

339 but look at the picture of that cute little Ebola. It looks like a little worm! and we love worms! They
are soooo cute and wriggly!

Posted by: PETA at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (QdqbP)

340 And the head of the TSA suddenly decides it's time to retire.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-10-16/tsa-administrator-john-pistole-to-retire-at-end-of-year

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (8A6wH)

341 It was an extremely narrow window of opportunity to control the fire. So it will be with Ebola.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at October 16, 2014 03:00 PM (Zq4s7)

The same thing is true with chemical reactions. You've got seconds to deal with a reaction that is about to take off. Look at the ceiling of any synthetic chemical laboratory or the upper reaches of any fume hood and see the shit that has been shot up there.
Experienced chemists keep an ice bucket to hand to slap under a flask to buy them time to figure out how to defuse the situation. If you don't have one ready, prepare to see green (or whatever color) shit dripping from the ceiling. Again.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:07 PM (SLea8)

342 Did you notice how Obama went on about "hugging and kissing" the nurses and workers who'd worked with ebola patients at Emory?

I had a conversation with my liberal mom about the need to apply quarantines and travel bans and her response was to start talking about "the way people shunned AIDS patients."

That's the only thing libs can really process: whose feelings are being hurt, and how can we make you feel all better about yourself?

Posted by: Average Jen at October 16, 2014 03:07 PM (dWRQ8)

343 Scratch that. He got a Job in academia..natch.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 16, 2014 03:07 PM (8A6wH)

344 I'm liking the hashtag #EbolaCare.

Ties all the ineptness together.

President Ebola.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 16, 2014 03:08 PM (+fgie)

345 obama's handling of ebola is so bad I am starting to worry that he is negotiating with the russians to target ourselves with our own nukes.
Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 03:06 PM (iBXmZ)

Outstanding

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2014 03:08 PM (M0mf2)

346 I think my headline would have been:

"PULL YOUR INCOMPETENT COMMUNIST RETARD HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSHOLE, FUCKSTICK!!!!!"


But, yeah, the New York Daily News' one works, too.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 16, 2014 03:08 PM (rXB/r)

347 "If I dress as Ebola for Halloween, what are the odds a SWAT team shoots me and my dog?"

Are you in Baltimore?
if you, a Cop is gonna punch your lights out at a public bus stop right across the street from an active surveillance camera.
And another is gonna slit your dogs throat.

And after that, the local kids are gonna take your bag of candy.

And your new i-phone.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2014 03:08 PM (ziM/C)

348 It would not have mattered if the CDC had mobile CCA units for deon.

From the 28th to the 30th, the Dallas hospital did not know Duncan had Ebola. So for two days staff at the hospital was not following the vaunted CDC protocols that we know are flawed..

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 03:08 PM (waEDw)

349 A certain cob would say that Ace and The Daily News are being "silly"

Posted by: kbdabear at October 16, 2014 03:08 PM (aTXUx)

350 Posted by: RobM1981 at October 16, 2014 03:05 PM (zurJC)


Well said.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:09 PM (SLea8)

351 I doubt those pics all the papers are showing are actually the ebola virus.

Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2014 03:09 PM (xWW96)

352 it seems to me that the proper thing to do is scatter potential Ebola patients to hospitals throughout the country in order to reduce the concentration of the disease in any one place.

Brilliant!

Posted by: The CDC at October 16, 2014 03:09 PM (rwI+c)

353 OH, SURE, WINGNUTS, BUT WHAT ARE *YOU* GONNA DO ABOUT THE FAT LESBIANS?!?!

Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 03:10 PM (MMC8r)

354 I had a conversation with my liberal mom about the
need to apply quarantines and travel bans and her response was to start
talking about "the way people shunned AIDS patients."



Posted by: Average Jen at October 16, 2014 03:07 PM (dWRQ


Avoiding people with fatal diseases? Crazy.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:10 PM (SLea8)

355 >>How about Rudy in charge at CDC. Proven crisis management skills. People would react with relief I think.

I was thinking Mitt.

Either would be an improvement.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 03:11 PM (0xTsz)

356 I see some news outlets are mentioning the bridesmaids and other contacts, including Ebola Amber's Mama (who flew on commercial plane to Dallas and now back in Ohio?) are in voluntary quarantine. We know how well that works!

But no one but the UK Daily Mail is mentioning that Ebola Amber had a slight fever before she went to Ohio. Oh, and that retail store in Cleveland where she and five other friends visited, as otherwise she felt so crappy she stayed home...well, Cleveland won't tell (from another source) the name of the retail store as they don't want either panic or the store "blackballed." Great! This story just gets better and better and better. While Mama may not have been contagious nor maybe will ever get ebolized, she flew on two flights. Retail store contaminated maybe by a sneeze or maybe not. I know if I was shopping I'd want to know if I needed to watch for symptoms, no?

For the eleventyith billionith time, here, once again, is the story all morons and Ace and the press in America should read and question if TWO flights of passengers should be warned of Ebola Amber, not just the one flight. But the additional flight from Dallas to Ohio on 10/10/14:

http://tinyurl.com/pe8qs9c


Think of this, my morons: possibly two plane-loads of people, crew, and those at gates, restaurants, etc on the two days she traveled could have been exposed. Ok. Let that set in: potentially over 200 passengers alone if it is correct and she had a fever for both flights (as many, many viruses are considered infections with a 'low grade" temp). You with me? Over 200 people....and one entire flight, if this story is true, not knowing they were exposed yet and to be watching for symptoms.

Meanwhile, the genius MENSA CDC is asking for passengers on the flight from Cleveland to Dallas on the Frontier flight to call them at 1-800-YOU-May-have-ebola please watch for symptoms. Now, you'd "think" a government agency, with all the power of the world (as the CDC is in control of flight bans, not preznit Le Roi)...well, you'd "think" they could acquire the flight manifest and notify these patients, no? Vs hoping every single patient on that plane reads the news and sees the number and will call. So, meanwhile, Joe the Dude Who Buys Lobsters With Foodstamps is off surfin or something as he took the flight from Dallas to his lair in California. He starts feeling puny but tries to shake it off with his medical marijuana, obtained by his food stamps. Has one of his lobster rolls and starts puking blood. Whoa, he says, that was one bad lobster, dude. He smokes some more weed. Falls asleep. Goes surfin but has a really bad day as he keeps crapping in the water. Bummer. Feels really gnarly at this point and staggers home to his condo (paid for by parents). Erupts in dual projectile vomit and exploding diarrhea just as his roommate and ten other dudes arrive for the bong party. They freak out but don't call the ambulance as, buzz-kill. They roll him up in the rug and party on as no one has heard of ebola and if they had they would think it is a new brand at the medical marijuana store from Fiji.

The sheer and total incompetence of the CDC, to place blame, then not, then place blame again, then, today, say "they are open for ideas" when this expertise is what they are paid and trusted for. Well, for once I have no words, my flying monkeys. We are all on our own until a travel freaking ban which will probably be Texas before countries in W. Africa.

May the force be with you that is neither projectile or exploding out an orifice. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Ebola Czarina at October 16, 2014 03:11 PM (dMEBN)

357 Jay

That's what's killing us, that kind of brainless political correctness they mistake for actual thinking.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:11 PM (KJWdN)

358 Still no travel ban, right.

F 'em.


F 'em all to hell.

Posted by: RWC - he who likes guns and boobehs and has a goatee at October 16, 2014 03:12 PM (fWAjv)

359 "Thomas Eric Duncan passed his temperature check and furthermore lied about whether he'd come into contact with ebola."


Somewhat besides the point, but NeoNeoCon says her research indicated that Duncan's Ebola contact was not diagnosed as having had the disease until after he was here. So he didn't even have to lie.


If true, that's even worse, BTW. It means he didn't do ANYTHING against the rules, and they let him waltz on in here unimpeded. There's still NOTHING to prevent the NEXT Duncan, and they may already be here.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 03:12 PM (/q6+P)

360 That's the only thing libs can really process: whose
feelings are being hurt, and how can we make you feel all better about
yourself?

Posted by: Average Jen at October 16, 2014 03:07 PM
-----------------------------------------

That's exactly right. Any people who contract the disease here in the U.S. and die, have died precisely because we didn't want to hurt West African's feewings.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 03:12 PM (8GKDa)

361 Clancy discussed it as well. driving a truck loaded
with explosives into a building and vaporizing yourself is different
than some suicide ebola jhadi infecting himself and suffering a slow
lingering existence for 30 days.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 03:04 PM (iBXmZ)

Of course, the obvious solution is to infect yourself, prance around the countryside until you start feeling really lousy, THEN drive the truck loaded with explosives into something and vaporizing yourself.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:12 PM (SLea8)

362 Yep. World Series? Super Bowl? You bet.



What is the window between contagious & puddle of goo?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 03:13 PM (jbo6O)

363 "How about this: What if 100 actual ebola cases come over the course of 2-3 days?"

The answer to this is that our healthcare system will completely collapse. And for all intents and purposes we will be no better off than the third world countries we ridicule.

We do have the best facilities, doctors etc. in the world, but it is fragile, and when it comes to risking exposure to family, healthcare workers will start to stay home, there aren't enough beds in containment units, and people will stop coming to the hospital for normal stuff.

I live a few blocks from a hospital in central NJ, my wide is having a baby in mid december, am I going to take her there for the c-section and 4 days of hospital stay. Am I going to go there with Ebola patients? Fuck no... I'm not sure what we're going to do in that case, but not checking into the hospital thats for sure.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at October 16, 2014 03:13 PM (n/ogz)

364 >>>doubt those pics all the papers are showing are actually the ebola virus.

Its an artist's rendition based on testimony of a witness.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 03:13 PM (3ZtZW)

365 >Posted by: Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 03:11 PM (0xTsz)<



Mitt occurred to me too Mama. He be great, I'm sure. However, in order to take the job, he'd demand the authority to do the job. For example, the authority to stop commercial air service to West Africa.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2014 03:13 PM (sjdRT)

366 355 >>How about Rudy in charge at CDC. Proven crisis management skills. People would react with relief I think.

I was thinking Mitt.

Either would be an improvement.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 03:11 PM (0xTsz)

_______

Hell, Bo would be an improvement.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:13 PM (SLea8)

367 The good thing is that absent a MAJOR mutation, the virus does not
survive outside the body more than a few hours. Terrible, and enough to
spread, but limits the "dirty bomb" issue with med waste.



Where did you get that few hours number. The scientific test done on Ebola Zaire (the bad human strain) showed that it could survive for 41 days on a dry surface at room temperature.

Posted by: An Observation at October 16, 2014 03:14 PM (ylhEn)

368 "Did you notice how Obama went on about 'hugging and kissing' the nurses and workers who'd worked with ebola patients at Emory?"

Yeah. I also noticed that there were no photos of this purported act.

Tthe powers that be are telling us that it's perfectly safe to sit right next to someone who is hot with Ebola, just as long as they're not vomiting or crapping.

OK then. Let's see the jugeared messiah go to Emory and sit at bedside with Nurse Amber. Live on camera. For a while.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2014 03:14 PM (noWW6)

369 Of course, the obvious solution is to infect yourself, prance around the countryside until you start feeling really lousy, THEN drive the truck loaded with explosives into something and vaporizing yourself.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:12 PM (SLea

i don't know, projectile vomiting and diarahea seem to be a pretty good weapon too

Posted by: Joe Biden, War Chief at October 16, 2014 03:15 PM (W6iIX)

370 Mitt occurred to me too Mama. He be great, I'm sure.
However, in order to take the job, he'd demand the authority to do the
job. For example, the authority to stop commercial air service to West
Africa.


Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2014 03:13 PM (sjdRT)

__________

Is Barky stupid enough to let himself be shown up that badly? He did let Clinton take over a press conference, so he's pretty stupid, but I can't believe he'd be stupid enough to let Romney fix his fuckup.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:15 PM (SLea8)

371 Of course, the obvious solution is to infect yourself, prance around the countryside until you start feeling really lousy, THEN drive the truck loaded with explosives into something and vaporizing yourself.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:12 PM (SLea


No, then you go to a mall and blow yourself up and get bodily fluids everywhere you can.

Posted by: alexthechick - Beware the Jazz Hands at October 16, 2014 03:15 PM (mf5HN)

372 Jihadis can infect themselves, wait until they are so sick they are staggering and spewing, then put on a suicide vest and bail out of a Cessna 300 feet over a filled football stadium. Damn, I could do well at the terrorism game.

Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2014 03:15 PM (xWW96)

373 "the CDC is in control of flight bans, not preznit Le Roi"

Frieden: Barack, we need to get around to flight bans.

Obama: Can't be done. (Fore!) I made promises to Ernest and Ellen, you know that.

Frieden: Erm, no.

Obama: It's one world, Tom. Am I right?

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:16 PM (KJWdN)

374 Torquewrench you forgot one major condition.

Sit at her bedside without a space suit on. Much like Clippy the clipboard guy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 03:16 PM (waEDw)

375 Now the thing I fear is that they'll stop telling us what's going on with the others who had contact.

I'm thinking they're going to go to restricting info MORE rather than being more open. Because even though Frieden did it wrong, they have told us about new cases. And he's getting slammed.

So the new thing will be patient privacy regs and they can't say who has it who doesn't or where they are.

It's probably going on right now but of course we don't know about it and the Media has lost all ability to track down stories. (unless it's a conservative/tea party/republican.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2014 03:16 PM (KK+mC)

376 >Is Barky stupid enough to let himself be shown up
that badly? He did let Clinton take over a press conference, so he's
pretty stupid, but I can't believe he'd be stupid enough to let Romney
fix his fuckup.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:15 PM (SLea<

Not under normal circumstances. No. But I'm afraid we're heading for distinctly non-normal circumstances.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2014 03:17 PM (sjdRT)

377 Posted by: Joe Biden, War Chief at October 16, 2014 03:15 PM (W6iIX)

I meant as a way for a Ebola-carrying terrorist to avoid dying a slow, painful, lingering death.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:17 PM (SLea8)

378 that retail store in Cleveland where she and five other friends visited,

where she presumably tried on clothes.

great, just fucking great

Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2014 03:17 PM (LISuA)

379 356 "...The sheer and total incompetence of the CDC, to place blame, then not, then place blame again, then, today, say "they are open for ideas" when this expertise is what they are paid and trusted for. Well, for once I have no words, my flying monkeys. We are all on our own until a travel freaking ban which will probably be Texas before countries in W. Africa."


I don't think you're properly interpreting what the CDC guy is saying. When he says they are "open for ideas", that's standard bureaucrat-speak for "Fuck you, we'll do as we please, asshole. Who do you think you are?"

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 03:17 PM (/q6+P)

380 You are all jealous because he is better dressed than you!

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz THX1138 at October 16, 2014 03:17 PM (3M75m)

381 "246 Dallas now trying to legally quarantine at risk health care workers. Which the CDC won't do
Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2014 02:54 PM (zOTsN)"

Which is what they should have done days ago. Forget about the CDC letting her fly from Cleveland for a moment. That's bad enough. What's worse in my view is that Amber Vinson was allowed to leave Dallas at all.

Seriously? You've just been at extremely high risk of being exposed to Ebola and might be infected, and you think it's a good idea to travel across country to plan your damn wedding????

Seriously? Haven't you heard of the phone? FaceTime? E-mail? For the next 30-40 days, you should have been staying at home, avoiding people as much as you could, only going in to work if the Hospital cleared you. You shouldn't have traveled across country -not for anything, and not to plan a damn wedding. But no, you just had to go plan for your special day with Mom.

Hi Ma-Ma, I love you. Good to see you. Here, I brought you some hemorrhagic fever virus!

Hi Honey! i can't wait for our special day! What say we go back in the bedroom and have a little trial run for that special night. I got some special stuff from the Old Country to pass along to you!

The CDC bureaucrats are a bunch of idiots, but Amber Vinson and whoever told her it would be a-ok to hop on a plane and head to Ohio are even bigger idiots......

Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at October 16, 2014 03:17 PM (1o4B5)

382 Here's a good story.

Chris Weidman, Long Island native, UFC middle-weight champion and general all-around good guy, saved his elderly neighbor's life today. An old lady fell through a glass table and he just happened to hear her screams from down the street cause he was cleaning out his car, and went over to see what the noise was and found her covered in blood and in shock.

MMAFighting.com @MMAFighting
Chris Weidman details harrowing encounter that rescued elderly neighbor (@shaunalshatti) sbnation.com/e/6753538

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 16, 2014 03:18 PM (ZPrif)

383 353 OH, SURE, WINGNUTS, BUT WHAT ARE *YOU* GONNA DO ABOUT THE FAT LESBIANS?!?!
Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 03:10 PM (MMC8r)

Buy them a treadmill?

Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 03:18 PM (sgrzZ)

384 So female nurses are sick? Looks like Obama has a war on women!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 03:18 PM (l1zOH)

385 Not under normal circumstances. No. But I'm afraid we're heading for distinctly non-normal circumstances.


Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2014 03:17 PM (sjdRT)

True. I'd be thrilled if he finally evinced some adult behavior, but I doubt his ego would let him take that hit unless half the country was bleeding from the eyes, including him.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:18 PM (SLea8)

386 Tthe powers that be are telling us that it's perfectly safe to sit right next to someone who is hot with Ebola, just as long as they're not vomiting or crapping.

----
You can't get it sitting next to an infected person, but if you are infected, you can pass it to someone sitting next to you.

Wrap your head around that statement.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 03:18 PM (jbo6O)

387 According to WHO when someone infected with Ebola sweats, what comes out of the pores are not complete copies of the Ebola virus.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 03:18 PM (waEDw)

388 387 According to WHO when someone infected with Ebola sweats, what comes out of the pores are not complete copies of the Ebola virus.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at Oct

And I for one am not ready to tempt fate anymore. Thats a young persons job.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 03:20 PM (l1zOH)

389 "I must catch up with my People, for I am their LEADER!!!"

Posted by: Precedent O IS a bad joke... at October 16, 2014 03:21 PM (f0pWu)

390 Tthe powers that be are telling us that it's perfectly safe to sit right
next to someone who is hot with Ebola, just as long as they're not
vomiting or crapping.



So ... I have a question. How do you know that the person next to you is about to vomit or crap?

I'm asking for the Japanese Prime Minister the Bush 41 ralphed on.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:21 PM (SLea8)

391 Romney allowed to take a job in the Obama Admin when he might show what competence looks like? Fat chance that. Better odds that Obama will eventually say he had a plan to deal with this months ago but knew the Repubs would never let it go into effect.

Posted by: mallfly at October 16, 2014 03:22 PM (bJm7W)

392 What's the difference between "exponential" increase and "geometric" increase?

I would think that a contagion wouldn't double, it would double, quardruple, and so on

Example; if one infected person on average came into dangerous contact with five others ...

1,5,25,125,625,3125,15625,78125 ...

Obviously some would come in contagious contact with more and some fewer than 5 others

Posted by: kbdabear at October 16, 2014 03:22 PM (aTXUx)

393 Maybe Michelle O is in charge of the Ebola response. It cures obesity so let Ebola Move.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 16, 2014 03:23 PM (wrS2o)

394 And I for one am not ready to tempt fate anymore. Thats a young persons job.



At this late stage of my game, if I was a cat, I wouldn't be gambling on how many lives I have left.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 03:23 PM (jbo6O)

395 So, has Jugears said yet that he is going to pivot and focus like a laser on ebola? 'Cause that would definitely make me feel reassured. *spit*

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 16, 2014 03:23 PM (ms3It)

396 we're fucked.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (HEa5q)

397 A side point, but did anybody else notice that now we're suddenly using Ms Vinson's MIDDLE name? As observed in the movie "Conspiracy Theory", there's no clearer way to show that somebody is being demonized than by using their middle name.

"Amber Joy Vinson". Potentially the Typhoid Mary of today.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (/q6+P)

398 Why does Obama's face look so weirdly asymmetrical in this photo? One eye looks a good half-inch higher than the other one. Is this the first unretouched photo we've ever seen of the guy?

Posted by: Average Jen at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (dWRQ8)

399 >>I still want to know how long the incubation period is for that missing 2%.
Posted by: alexthechick

Don't be silly. It's only 2%. How much problem could that cause?
/

Posted by: Aviator at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (3rrMW)

400 I'd be damned curious to know the number of people their vaunted ebola screening has actually stopped from flying to the U.S. Barring those visibly bleeding, I'd guess near zero. Of course, they'd never willingly admit the true number, but I'd like to see the question asked of the official White House bullshitter du jour.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (8GKDa)

401 Maybe when Prez Obola's voters start dying from ebola it will finally dawn on them that he does not and never did have their interests at heart.

Fundamentally changing America means different things to different people. Prez Obola's definition is not the hopey changey can't we all just get along vision that the dummies in the 52% had in mind.

Posted by: WhyMe at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (l9mF2)

402 360 That's the only thing libs can really process: whose
feelings are being hurt, and how can we make you feel all better about
yourself?

Posted by: Average Jen at October 16, 2014 03:07 PM
-----------------------------------------

That's exactly right. Any people who contract the disease here in the U.S. and die, have died precisely because we didn't want to hurt West African's feewings.


Posted by: irright at October 16, 2014 03:12 PM (8GKDa)


Negligent Homicide.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (f0pWu)

403 OH, SURE, WINGNUTS, BUT WHAT ARE *YOU* GONNA DO ABOUT THE FAT LESBIANS?!?!

Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 03:10 PM (MMC8r)

Buy them a treadmill?

Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 03:18 PM (sgrzZ)

************

How about initiate a travel restriction of high calorie food to their mouths?

Posted by: Elinor, who usually looks lurkily at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (95xxa)

404 396 we're fucked.



Thread winner!

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (VndSC)

405 10:15 am || Receives the Presidential Daily Briefing
11:00 am || Meets with Secretary of Defense Hagel



Busy busy busy busy

Posted by: RWC - he who likes guns and boobehs and has a goatee at October 16, 2014 03:25 PM (fWAjv)

406 The bureaucracy is infested with leftists.

Leftists have a sense of entitlement, and the concept of a meritocracy (ie, having to do your fucking job or pay the penalty) is anathema to them.

They look around themselves and enjoy the perks, the benefits, and are secure because they've built the system to never demand that price for failure. They spend the money on toys, pamper themselves, tick the boxes on the forms and go back to downloading porn because they know they'll never get fired even if they DO get caught someday.

One end of the bureaucracy protects the other, and they have a good laugh over pulling the wool over the eyes of the rubes back home while they live like kings. The only time they're efficient or innovative is when a small-government grass-roots movement comes along that threatens their gravy train, and then its full-bore assassination and cover-up across the whole corrupt power structure.

So when you get a real-world threat, they'll cover it up as long as possible, deflect, BS, lie, obfuscate and eventually just let it explode. And they still won't pay a price, and they'll continue with their boutique issues and make-work and keep stacking the deck to protect that sweet money that comes with no strings.

Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 03:25 PM (MMC8r)

407 Dukakis, yeah that Dukakis, is pals with the Boston Bomber buddy. Wtf?

Dukakis says he's a good boy.

TwitchyTeam @TwitchyTeam 12m
'Dept. of WTF!' Guess which Dem took the stand for Tsarnaev pal Robel Phillipos (Hint: It's BIZARRE) http://bit.ly/ZGwbs3

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 16, 2014 03:25 PM (ZPrif)

408 re 398: the Alfred E Neuman effect. What, me worry?

Posted by: mallfly at October 16, 2014 03:26 PM (bJm7W)

409 Quit giving the Jihadis ideas. These are not creative people but they are smart enough to follow suggestions. STFU

Posted by: An Observation at October 16, 2014 03:26 PM (ylhEn)

410 399 >>I still want to know how long the incubation period is for that missing 2%.
Posted by: alexthechick

Don't be silly. It's only 2%. How much problem could that cause?
/
Posted by: Aviator at

Some of you morons are SO DEMANDING

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 03:26 PM (vPh3W)

411 Of course, the obvious solution is to infect yourself, prance around the countryside until you start feeling really lousy, THEN drive the truck loaded with explosives into something and vaporizing yourself. Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:12 PM (SLea


--------------------------------------------------


Think about it. It wouldn't work. Explosived are nothing but very hot, expanding gases. Extreme heat would kill most of the virus. And a truck full of explosives would create a tremendous amount of heat.

One stick of dynamite stuck up the ass would work much better as far as the spreading of the virus is concerned.

Posted by: Soona at October 16, 2014 03:26 PM (JbuGO)

412 We have "dedicated staff with years of training." They're at the various
speciality infectious disease treatment centers, such as the CDC's unit
at Emory, or the University of Nebraska Medical Center.


I'm much too smart to be risking my life around ebola. That shit's scary.

Posted by: CDC expert at October 16, 2014 03:26 PM (A6vWB)

413 Anyone who puts a "hard number" on Ebola infection/transmission rates is either a liar or a fool. Those are known unknowns.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 03:26 PM (2cS/G)

414 Yeah, let's risk killing American children with Ebola and EV68 because-

Mark Zuckerman and the Chamber of Commerce want cheap labor and the Democrats want a new voting population.

Awesome.


The blood of American children is already on their hands from EV68

they want to up that to thousands if not millions with Ebola-


just so they don't have to pay Americans American wages and the Dims can remain in power.


Well hey, gotta crack a few eggs, right?

Posted by: naturalfake at October 16, 2014 03:27 PM (0cMkb)

415 Dukakis just testified as a character witness in the Boston Bomber buddy trial.

Carl Stevens @carlwbz
Dukakis,to reporters outside the courthouse, describes Phillipos as "law abiding", believes "he has a bright future." #wbz #marathonbombing

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 16, 2014 03:27 PM (ZPrif)

416 whitebread - also glad you're back! don't let the bad news get to your refurbed ticker!

Posted by: geezer der mensch at October 16, 2014 03:28 PM (6aFlV)

417 OH, SURE, WINGNUTS, BUT WHAT ARE *YOU* GONNA DO ABOUT THE FAT LESBIANS?!?!



Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 03:10 PM (MMC8r)



Buy them a treadmill?



Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 03:18 PM (sgrzZ)



************



How about initiate a travel restriction of high calorie food to their mouths?

Posted by: Elinor, who usually looks lurkily at October 16, 2014 03:24 PM (95xxa)
______________
How about ignoring them? Who cares whether they're fat or not? That's their business, and their problem. We have one or two teeny weeny problems of our own.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:28 PM (SLea8)

418 They suffered a 70% death rate for ebola infections in West Africa.
(Here in the States, supposedly we will only have a 50% death rate-- but
I'm not confident that the "experts" are right about that.)


We have a sample of three currently to learn from. Two walked out the fromnt door. The third went up a chimney. There's no meaningful way to make predictions from that.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2014 03:29 PM (A6vWB)

419 383 353 OH, SURE, WINGNUTS, BUT WHAT ARE *YOU* GONNA DO ABOUT THE FAT LESBIANS?!?!
Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 03:10 PM (MMC8r)

Buy them a treadmill?
Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 03:18 PM (sgrzZ)

*********
Until they lose the weight and grow their hair out. Then buy them a camcorder.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at October 16, 2014 03:29 PM (vgIRn)

420 Dukakis just testified as a character witness in the Boston Bomber buddy trial.


This just in: the Boston Bomber buddy just testified as a character witness in Dukakis's trial.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:29 PM (SLea8)

421 I love how the cocksucker brought up that health care workers are underpaid yesterday.

Yeah, 'cause that's what were fu&*ing concerned about right now you worthless piece of shit.

Posted by: RWC - he who likes guns and boobehs and has a goatee at October 16, 2014 03:30 PM (fWAjv)

422 Well DUH!!!
http://tinyurl.com/lrowh3u
Male brains wired to ignore food in favor of sex. Damn, I'm not a scientist and I could of told them that.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 03:30 PM (sgrzZ)

423 The government functionaries are nuts. NYC 911 operators were instructed not to announce "Ebola" over radio calls to first responders, so as to avoid public panic since so many people listen in on police calls. Instead, the press release said, the operators will say "F/T" (has a Fever and Traveled recently to west Africa).

Thanks for nothing you mindless nimrods.

Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2014 03:30 PM (LISuA)

424 President Ebonics is now President Ebola

Posted by: TexasJew at October 16, 2014 03:30 PM (X8di8)

425
The only "grip" that Obama has is a firm grip on Reggie Love's love muscle.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at October 16, 2014 03:31 PM (wdHk6)

426 Question - can you test positive for the ebola virus even if you are asymptomatic or do you have to be suffering symptoms? Can't they test all of those who worked with Duncan to see if they are positive for the virus? Or is the 21-42 day incubation for it showing up in bloodwork?

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at October 16, 2014 03:31 PM (LMKjz)

427 The bureaucracy is infested with leftists.


This. Among all my friends there is one liberal, and he is ... a government bureaucrat.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:32 PM (SLea8)

428 354 I had a conversation with my liberal mom about the
need to apply quarantines and travel bans and her response was to start
talking about "the way people shunned AIDS patients."

Posted by: Average Jen at October 16, 2014 03:07 PM (dWRQ

You should have told mom that to get HIV, you had to get screwed by an AIDS patient, but to be at risk for picking up Ebola, all you have to do is get screwed by a liberal bureaucrat -and screwing people is the job description of a liberal bureaucrat.......

Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at October 16, 2014 03:32 PM (1o4B5)

429 I'm a better virus than the ebola virus.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 16, 2014 03:32 PM (dWRQ8)

430 413 Anyone who puts a "hard number" on Ebola infection/transmission rates is either a liar or a fool. Those are known unknowns.
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 03:26 PM (2cS/G


Exactly. Basically, we just don't know exactly what we're up against, and it's time for the powers that be to admit it.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:33 PM (SLea8)

431 Posted by: PAgirlinNC at October 16, 2014 03:31 PM (LMKjz)

You be talking all sciency and stuff!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 16, 2014 03:33 PM (o3MSL)

432 People complain that nothing was put in place despite six months advance warning. What did you expect? Hussein has had years to get that growth next to his nose excised, and it's still there.

Posted by: Edgar Allan Schmoe at October 16, 2014 03:34 PM (boKM5)

433 All I know is if the dualing projectile vomits and exploding diarrhea become mainstream I am going to stay in my castle. Not sure what the magic number will be. But with Ebola Amber I'd say we will be damn lucky if we don't read, in, oh, two weeks or so, of hundreds with symptoms.

Right now people are going to panic if they know someone from W. Africa much less visited there recently (why I have no idea as this has been going on since spring. Let's see: It's summer! Let's go get us some ebola and visit grandma!). On this line of thought, my little pumpernickel, why are these damn countries allowing people in to visit other than aide?

Meanwhile, you are an ED nurse, doc, EMT, or at reception. I can guarantee by this weekend there will be: influenza type symptoms that are real, possibly children with the Entero 68/69, drug seekers, hypochondriacs with ebola, and real potential ebola patients. This is not counting the gang-bangers or stabbings over a pork chop, or car accidents, or cutting off your hand with a saw. Oh, no, my sweets. It is going to be Dante's Hell on Wheels. We posted a list of anthrax symptoms but if Hypochondriac Helen came in she was still seen and treated or whatever.

The wisdom to ban the W. African ebola countries to the USA is not just to add 100 plus more flights of potentially contagious people to spread their special brand of love...but to not shut down our emergency departments and hospitals and isolation beds until this disease is ruled out: and right on top of the start of influenza.

Sheer incompetence and stupidity is this administration. If libs cannot see this through their rosy unicorn-farht haze, then it is hopeless. THanks for the links, Ace. I will read them after I call my reps who will agree with me as they are Republicans. I agree with Cruz, bring back Congress and represent your constituents. Call yours today.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Ebola Czarina at October 16, 2014 03:34 PM (dMEBN)

434 So, supposedly, 94% of arrivals from ebola infected countries are being
put through multilayered screening, neither part of which works.


And so you've hit on one of the prime differences between Americans and progressives/moderates.

We want to be safe, with the usual caveats the real world imposes.

They want a lot of flash and dance to make them feel like they're safe.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2014 03:34 PM (A6vWB)

435 This. Among all my friends there is one liberal, and he is ... a government bureaucrat.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:32 PM (SLea


******

I have a few. They all live in nice, new apartment buildings in DC, and to a one, they posted on FB about how much they enjoyed their Columbus Day off.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at October 16, 2014 03:34 PM (vgIRn)

436 Don't be silly. It's only 2%. How much problem could that cause?

----

hmmmmm....... 8 billion multiplied by .02 is........????

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 16, 2014 03:34 PM (NaV4z)

437 I'm a better virus than the ebola virus.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 16, 2014 03:32 PM (dWRQ



In fact, I'm a better pathogen than Ebola...


I'm killing a whole country!!!!


How's many pathogens can say that?

*preens*

*points nose in air*

*preens some more*

Posted by: Barky O'Jugears at October 16, 2014 03:35 PM (0cMkb)

438
I was wrong about the pictures. Heres a glamor shot of our little buddy.
http://tinyurl.com/q5kq4gp

Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2014 03:35 PM (xWW96)

439 YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!!!


http://tinyurl.com/k5uybad



NEW YORK - 911 emergency dispatchers in New York have been instructed not to use the work 'Ebola' over the radio.

Posted by: RWC - he who likes guns and boobehs and has a goatee at October 16, 2014 03:35 PM (fWAjv)

440 I'm a better virus than the ebola virus.
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 16, 2014 03:32 PM (dWRQ


---------------------------------------------------


The leftist/marxist virus. I agree. It's now systemic in the national body. We're bleeding out. And I am more worried about this virus than I am about ebola.

Posted by: Soona at October 16, 2014 03:36 PM (JbuGO)

441 428 354 I had a conversation with my liberal mom about the
need to apply quarantines and travel bans and her response was to start
talking about "the way people shunned AIDS patients."
***

Let me guess, the thought of being in a Starbucks with CCW permit holders terrifies her though.

Posted by: B at October 16, 2014 03:36 PM (jg1FQ)

442 I was wrong about the pictures. Heres a glamor shot of our little buddy.
http://tinyurl.com/q5kq4gp
Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2014 03:35 PM (xWW96)

----

Heh..... LITERALLY looks like the stick figure from Disturbeds "Down With The Sickness Video".

Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2014 03:37 PM (NaV4z)

443 AlextheChick, you know that fortune cookie I got recently.

"A small lucky package is on its way to you soon."

Ebola is a small package and meeting me would be lucky for it... *thud*

Or the boots come with Avian Flu attached. *erk*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 03:37 PM (waEDw)

444 Ain't no party like a Ebola party, cause a Ebola party don't stop.


Posted by: E Bola at October 16, 2014 03:38 PM (k79LC)

445 People dying in agony in a bloody forth is interesting but what we really want to know is this: Will Ebola affect Obama and the Dems?

Posted by: Demopundit at October 16, 2014 03:39 PM (Xv7f/)

446 I had a lot of fun socking ebola for a couple of weeks, but as I figured, it ain't funny no more.

Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2014 03:39 PM (xWW96)

447 Headline on Drudge: Africa stems Ebola via border closings, luc.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:39 PM (SLea8)

448 2% of 380 million [rough guess of number of people legal and illegal in the US] would be

7,600,000.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 03:39 PM (waEDw)

449
E-bola

E-wok

Coincidence?

Posted by: Guy who notices things at October 16, 2014 03:40 PM (Xv7f/)

450 Absolute mind-numbing illogical insanity:

CDC says Vinson should've taken a charter plan instead of flying commercial but continues to INSIST that West Africans should still be allowed to fly commercial into our country because charter flights alone won't provide the requisite medical supplies and personnel into those hot zones.

Posted by: KatDance at October 16, 2014 03:41 PM (AQp1V)

451 447Headline on Drudge: Africa stems Ebola via border closings, luc. Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:39 PM (SLea

Racist.

Posted by: Heralder at October 16, 2014 03:41 PM (/Mxso)

452 From the article linked on Drudge:Nigeria is another
success story. It had 20 cases and eight deaths after the virus was
brought by a Liberian-American who flew from Liberia to Lagos, Nigeria's
commercial capital of 21 million people, in July. Nearly 900 people
were potentially exposed to the virus by the traveler, who died, and the
disease could have wreaked havoc in Africa's most populous nation. Instead,
Ebola appears to have been beaten, in large part through aggressive
tracking of Ebola contacts, with no new cases since Aug. 31. WHO,
the U.N. health agency, called it "a piece of world-class
epidemiological detective work." The organization is set to declare an
end to the outbreak in Nigeria on Monday.

Hell, we need the Nigerians to help us out, because our idiots couldn't pour piss out of a boot with directions on the heel.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:41 PM (SLea8)

453 Hell, I kissed and hugged doctors and nurses that handled an Ebola patient.

Hell, I married Michelle...You think I'm afraid of a little virus.


XOXO
JEF

Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2014 03:42 PM (k79LC)

454 What's the difference between "exponential" increase and "geometric" increase?


It's the difference between n^2 and 2^n.

So after 2 weeks, n^2 becomes 4, and 2^n is 4.

After 10 weeks, n^2 becomes 100, while 2^n becomes 1,024.

What you described was exponential. (5^n)

Posted by: CM at October 16, 2014 03:42 PM (0NdlF)

455 449
E-bola

E-wok

Coincidence?
Posted by: Guy who notices things

E Cig
E Booze
You might be onto something.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 03:42 PM (vPh3W)

456 Is the WH behind CDC reluctance to ban flights?

http://tinyurl.com/psjvxvk

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:42 PM (KJWdN)

457 Travel ban from Endor!

Don't even let them 'Woks on the Intertubes.

Posted by: Senator Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 03:42 PM (0xTsz)

458 I know why the sidebar rabbit is incredulous. He's been reading the ebola threads.

Posted by: rickl at October 16, 2014 03:43 PM (zoehZ)

459 end to the outbreak in Nigeria on Monday.
Hell, we need the Nigerians to help us out, because our idiots couldn't pour piss out of a boot with directions on the heel.
Posted by: Jay Guevara

So you are saying those emails from Nigeria are worth my while?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 03:43 PM (vPh3W)

460 CDC says Vinson should've taken a charter plan instead of flying commercial but continues to INSIST that West Africans should still be allowed to fly commercial into our country because charter flights alone won't provide the requisite medical supplies and personnel into those hot zones. Posted by: KatDance at October 16, 2014 03:41 PM (AQp1V)

I'm not sure what "commercial flights" entails. Does it cover FedEx planes too? Otherwise,I was unaware airlines delivered aid via carry on.

Posted by: Heralder at October 16, 2014 03:43 PM (/Mxso)

461 I'll give some good news on this crap day.


By Grabthars Hammer, Galaxy Quest is now available on Netflix streaming.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 16, 2014 03:43 PM (0xez3)

462 Don't you mean 44-point type?
Actually the giant headline typeface size was traditionally 72-point type (72 points=1 inch) but nowadays it can be anything.

/pedant

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (fIv/H)

463 Will Ebola affect Obama and the Dems?

Posted by: Demopundit at October 16, 2014 03:39 PM (Xv7f/)



We are pleased to announce that the American people are 110% behind Obama and his party. Keep up the good work!

Posted by: 2014 Vote Counters at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (0NdlF)

464 The most amazing thing about this?

There is no apparent link to Jamie Gorelick.

Posted by: Virus. Yeah, we mutate at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (Q9qpj)

465 Michael Crichton was a [del]doctor[/del] writer with a medical degree who didn't let [del] the system [/del] medical school destroy his sense of imagination.

Posted by: Guy who notices different things at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (Xv7f/)

466 This is a list of Congressmen/women who want or do not want travel bans to countries in W. Africa with ebola (note, they need to add Senator Rubio as one who wants temporary travel bands, so this list is missing at least one).



http://tinyurl.com/l6rodyu



If your rep is not on this list, yea or nay, call them and ask why. If they don't want the travel ban ask why (just for the heck of irritating them) and see if they parrot the CDC.

This is war. They all took oaths to protect this country and citizens.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Ebola Czarina at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (dMEBN)

467 Commodus Hussein Obama: The people are my children. And I shall pull them to my bosom and embrace them tightly...

Senator Ted "Gracchus" Cruz: Have you ever embraced someone dying of Ebola Sire?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (dvRYt)

468 you know that fortune cookie I got recently.

"A small lucky package is on its way to you soon."


The last fortune cookie I got said 'An attractive guest will bring joy to your home.'

Which is to say, I'm pretty sure they're bullshit.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (A6vWB)

469 The things you RethugliKKKan teabaggers all hate most come from Africa- Ebola and black people.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (r0ZMQ)

470 Barack Ebola.....

Posted by: FU52 at October 16, 2014 03:45 PM (CzTBs)

471 AP Headline (from Drudge Link):

"Africa Stems Ebola Via Border Closings, Luck"

Yes, luck. That's what we need. Luck.

It can't just be border closings... can it?!?

Posted by: Dang at October 16, 2014 03:45 PM (MNq6o)

472 "Meanwhile, you are an ED nurse, doc, EMT, or at reception. I can guarantee by this weekend there will be: influenza type symptoms that are real, possibly children with the Entero 68/69, drug seekers, hypochondriacs with ebola, and real potential ebola patients."

And: frequent-flyer "homeless" winos and junkies and schizos, who constantly cycle in and out of urban emergency rooms. Typically being taken there in ambulances.

Probably the fastest modality for spreading any infectious disease is to get it into that population.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2014 03:45 PM (noWW6)

473 School kids are being evacuated out of Ohio school due to exposure to the traveling nurse.

If kids start getting Ebola...

If that doesn't trigger a backlash, Obama should just declare himself Emperor for life.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb (Psalm 109:7-8) at October 16, 2014 03:45 PM (BZAd3)

474
What's the difference between "exponential" increase and "geometric" increase?


It's the difference between n^2 and 2^n.

So after 2 weeks, n^2 becomes 4, and 2^n is 4.

After 10 weeks, n^2 becomes 100, while 2^n becomes 1,024.

What you described was exponential. (5^n)

Posted by: CM at October 16, 2014 03:42 PM (0NdlF)








I was told that there would be no math on this blog.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2014 03:45 PM (TIIx5)

475 464 The most amazing thing about this?

There is no apparent link to Jamie Gorelick.
Posted by: Virus. Yeah, we mutate at Octob

We are still early into this investigation.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen at October 16, 2014 03:46 PM (vPh3W)

476 455 449
E-bola

E-wok

Coincidence?
Posted by: Guy who notices things

E Cig
E Booze
You might be onto something.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian in the lab of the utility muffin research kitchen

---

E-gad

Posted by: Radeaminit at October 16, 2014 03:46 PM (Xv7f/)

477 Couldn't we necklace the southern border with ebola victims and solve our illegal immigration problem? Two birds - One Stone.

Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at October 16, 2014 03:46 PM (oDCMR)

478 >>There is no apparent link to Jamie Gorelick.

That's just because she's been sulking in her room since Bezos didn't take her advice and fund Vox.

Posted by: Senator Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 03:47 PM (0xTsz)

479 2% of 380 million [rough guess of number of people legal and illegal in the US] would be

7,600,000.


Obviously this means we need 10 million south american and african immigrants this year, to make up for future voter losses.

Posted by: DNC strategist at October 16, 2014 03:47 PM (A6vWB)

480 469 The things you RethugliKKKan teabaggers all hate most come from Africa- Ebola and black people.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (r0ZMQ)
Flawed logic. You come from VT.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 03:48 PM (sgrzZ)

481 Winter is co

Posted by: Sean Bean at October 16, 2014 03:49 PM (rwI+c)

482 The Obola Administration

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 16, 2014 03:49 PM (X+nFp)

483 Well they said goodbye to their families
Said goodbye to their friends
With the fever dreams in their heads
They left their West Africa country counties dead....

All are black and none are white
And ain't to proud to shit on your floor tonight
With blind faith in the TSA you know that they just might
Ebola' in the U.S.A, hey


E O Bola in the U.S.A.
E O Bola in the U.S.A.
E O Bola in the U.S.A., yeah, yeah
Dyin in the U.S.A.

Posted by: John Cougar Ebolencamp at October 16, 2014 03:50 PM (NaV4z)

484
I guess it will just have to become a political problem before they ever do anything. It doesn't seem there is one logical person that has Oblahblah's ear.

Of course, the countries of Africa know to close their borders. We're boned.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2014 03:50 PM (mgE2f)

485 Winter is co



Gonna get hot.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 03:50 PM (jbo6O)

486 >>That's just because she's been sulking in her room since Bezos didn't take her advice and fund Vox.

Speaking of Vox, they have post explaining why a travel ban is stupid.

JuiceVox.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2014 03:50 PM (g1DWB)

487 I love fernandez's place; I love it here too but for different reasons.


he has a good piece up today.



obama should consider that if he has lost control of events he may have lost control of ebola in America. if ebola in America cascades out of control he may find himself impeached an d out of a job before valentines day.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 03:50 PM (iBXmZ)

488 I agree with the poster who said that Obama will probably put a travel ban in place right before the election.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2014 03:50 PM (n4T5x)

489 Ebola is not just a river in Africa. Time to be serious about isolating contagion away from US as far as possible.

Posted by: SarahW at October 16, 2014 03:51 PM (Lbv/k)

490 So those scenes from the Andromeda Strain--with a team of scientist of some kind in hazmat suits proceeding with extreme caution were not accurate?
What can I believe then?

Posted by: Northernlurker (AKA TGinTV) at October 16, 2014 03:51 PM (AkoL+)

491 George W. Bush was held personally responsible for everything that didn't go right when hurricaine Katrina hit New Orleans. The MFM complained relentlessly about everything FEMA did.

Okay, MFM, here's your chance to be consistent. If you are devoted to the truth, to getting the story out, to speaking truth to power... eh, who am I kidding, it's the MFM.

Posted by: mr_jack at October 16, 2014 03:52 PM (O7l6D)

492 Ye gads, Paul Mirengoff over on Powerline is agreeing with Shep Smith that we should not panic over Ebola.

After all its only TWO nurses and they are isolated.

Well yeah if that is all you know sure don't panic. But Pham's boyfriend might have it. And Ebola Joy went jet-setting.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 03:53 PM (waEDw)

493 Pic on Twitter of my colleague Bernie Sanders marching with nurses in Oakland protesting Ebola.

"Stop Ebola. Don't Blame Nurses. Protect Them. Hazmat suits. Optimal Safety Standards "

Posted by: Senator Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 03:53 PM (0xTsz)

494 "Dr. Frieden insisted that if we ban travel from the three Ebola-stricken countries, exposed people can just slip into nearby countries and fly from there, and we will be unable to monitor them here."

No they won't. Cote d'Ivoire has banned all flights. Kenya, too. Probably others. I don't know the current status of Guinea or Burkina Faso.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:53 PM (KJWdN)

495 Ever seen a guy with a 104 fever and explosive diarrhea climb a 12 foot barbed wire fence? Nope. Build the fence.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 03:54 PM (2cS/G)

496 >>>I would think that a contagion wouldn't double, it would double, quardruple, and so on

Depends on the contagion. Measles is more infectious than ebola, for example. Its just that ebola kills, unlike measles.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 03:54 PM (3ZtZW)

497 478
>>There is no apparent link to Jamie Gorelick.

Your next Ebola Czar....

Posted by: SarahW at October 16, 2014 03:54 PM (Lbv/k)

498 Can someone send a tweet to this idiot? Takes dumb blonde to a whole new level:

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=256062

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2014 03:54 PM (n4T5x)

499 After all its only TWO nurses and they are isolated.

Other than the jet setting, and the moving around normally in public, yeah, totes isolated.

Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 03:55 PM (MMC8r)

500 Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:53 PM (KJWdN)

I maybe wrong, but I thougt I heard that most African countries had banned flight into and from the infected countries.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 03:55 PM (sgrzZ)

501 The most amazing thing about this?

There is no apparent link to Jamie Gorelick.

____________


She's warming in the bullpen. She's the closer for the Grim Reapers.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:56 PM (SLea8)

502 To: Media
From: Press Office, DOE
Re: Virus nomenclature

It has come to our attention that reference to the Ebola virus as originating in sub-Saharan Africa could be understood as a "code" intended to suggest or convey that viruses originating in such places are different from or even inferior to viruses originating in other places, viz. Northern Europe and so is suggestive of a racist purpose or effect.

Accordingly and henceforth, the Ebola virus shall be referred to as an "undocumented immigrant of pathogenic persuasion and non-specific origin."

Posted by: Department of Euphemisms at October 16, 2014 03:56 PM (Xv7f/)

503

Blood out my eyballs, Ebola on the ground.
This land was a nation, this land made me proud
And son, I'm just sorry, there's no living for you now
Blood out my eyballs, Ebola on the ground.
Blood out my eyballs, Ebola on the ground.



Read more: John Mellencamp - Rain On The Scarecrow Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Posted by: John Cougar Ebolencamp at October 16, 2014 03:56 PM (NaV4z)

504 I just wonder how many Chidren's Hospital are equipped to handle EPOLA, most of the Hospitals being reported on seem they are just for Adults.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 16, 2014 03:56 PM (b6koZ)

505 >>George W. Bush was held personally responsible for everything that didn't go right when hurricaine Katrina hit New Orleans. The MFM complained relentlessly about everything FEMA did.

But that was totes different because Bush hated blacks and Obama doesn't hate people in Tex---oh shit.

Look, Perry still has a racist rock!

Posted by: MSM at October 16, 2014 03:56 PM (0xTsz)

506 Ever seen a guy with a 104 fever and explosive diarrhea climb a 12 foot barbed wire fence? Nope. Build the fence.


Pretty sure I saw that on Ripley's or maybe That's Incredible! (talk about a blast from the past)

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 16, 2014 03:56 PM (X+nFp)

507 I think of the panic that happened when some spinach wasn't washed properly and some (I don't remember how many) got sick or died from e coli.

Spinach was unavailable for a few months.

Ebola? Eh, No biggie.

Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2014 03:56 PM (k79LC)

508 I maybe wrong, but I thougt I heard that most African countries had banned flight into and from the infected countries.

African countries can't be racist.

Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 03:57 PM (MMC8r)

509 Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:53 PM (KJWdN)

Here ya go, from Drudge. Link in name.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:57 PM (SLea8)

510 Ebola isn't a policy Obama invented, but if it spreads in the US to any significant degree, and it can be shown that he's the one behind Frieden's reluctance to ban flights to/from western Africa, he's toast. The Dems, who already think him toxic, will have plausible deniability that hey, no hard feelings against this historic amazing intelligent handsome articulate black guy, but we need someone with better leadership skills and energy right now. I think they'll abandon him.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:57 PM (KJWdN)

511 I'm shocked to learn the CDC doesn't actually proceed like this.

http://tinyurl.com/o72o33r

Posted by: Northernlurker (AKA TGinTV) at October 16, 2014 03:58 PM (AkoL+)

512 What's the difference between "exponential" increase and "geometric" increase?

Nothing.

If the person using the phrase has no math background (see reporters, government officials) it just means some measured quantity so getting large fast and those words sound scary.

If the person talking actually knows what they're talking about, the terms are more or less interchangeable. Say I have two cases one week, 4 that got sick the next week while the first two died, 8 that those got sick the third week, while the 4 died, and so forth.

The 2, 4, 8, 16, etc that are sick is growing exponentially (put another way. in proportion to the number currently sick), but they aren't the same people, because in my example all the previous sick are dying. The number of dead 2+4+8+16+ ... is a geometrically increasing series.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2014 03:58 PM (A6vWB)

513 Look, Perry still has a racist rock!

Posted by: MSM at October 16, 2014 03:56 PM (0xTsz)


IIRC, he didn't even HAVE the rock; he just visited the place that had it. Apparently just driving by slowly would have been enough to indict him.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 03:58 PM (SLea8)

514 406 Posted by: --- Yes. Growing up in Northern VA the phrase; Good enough for government work was used when you did something half assed as in you weren't proud of your work because it would barely suffice. Today, it is the ethos of the entire beaurocracy which serves itself, giving jobs to friends and family, promotions and contracts to each other and lower than ever standards. We still want to think they are civil servants-they believe they are, which lets them feel and act as our betters; our leaders. When people say they want their country back, they want to put representatives in charge of fixing this. Real oversight. Ours.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 16, 2014 03:59 PM (Vp1dQ)

515 "Dr. Frieden insisted that if we ban travel from the three Ebola-stricken countries, exposed people can just slip into nearby countries and fly from there, and we will be unable to monitor them here."

---

He ought to know. Duncan came into the U.S. through Belgium.

Posted by: Lt. Duh at October 16, 2014 03:59 PM (Xv7f/)

516 Posted by: Guy who notices different things at October 16, 2014 03:44 PM (Xv7f/)

Use s for strikethrough delete.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2014 04:00 PM (KK+mC)

517 If the person using the phrase has no math background (see reporters,
government officials) it just means some measured quantity so getting
large fast and those words sound scary.


My favorite is "quantum leap," which is of course the smallest possible increment in a quantity, but our betters who use the expression think it means a huge leap.

Idiots.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 04:00 PM (SLea8)

518 I don't know how many more Texas residents will have to be infected before Perry does something, but I hope it's not many.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 04:01 PM (2cS/G)

519 It's a good thing for Obama and the people who installed him (Ayers, Soros) that I'm: (1) sane, and (2) Christian. Otherwise I'd be having murderous thoughts. Especially if any of my numerous relatives and friends down in Dallas are killed by this awful thing.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 16, 2014 04:01 PM (afLO3)

520 Well I've been walkin' the streets up and down
Racing through the burning fevers at night
I'm so confused, my mind is on fire
Hey I'm so weak, won't somebody shut off that light

I need a liver that don't have Ebola
I need a liver that don't have Ebola
I need a liver that don't have Ebola
Some nurse that knows the meaning of a
Hey hit the highway

Posted by: John Cougar Ebolencamp at October 16, 2014 04:01 PM (NaV4z)

521 My favorite is "quantum leap," which is of course
the smallest possible increment in a quantity, but our betters who use
the expression think it means a huge leap.

Idiots.



What about an exponential quantum leap?

Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2014 04:02 PM (k79LC)

522 The Dems, who already think him toxic, will have
plausible deniability that hey, no hard feelings against this historic
amazing intelligent handsome articulate black guy, but we need someone
with better leadership skills and energy right now. I think they'll
abandon him.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 03:57 PM (KJWdN)

_______
The Party line will be we need a woman (Hillary, Fauxcahontas?) to save us from the problems facing us, with no mention of Barky whatever, as though the problems just arose on their own, unbidden, kinda like an asteroid strike.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 04:02 PM (SLea8)

523 I wanna know if we have some secret stash of zmapp or similar that obama and his flunkies think they are gonna have access to if ebola gets loose.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 04:03 PM (iBXmZ)

524 "CDC says Vinson should've taken a charter plan instead of flying commercial..." Yeah, because with what low-echelon health care workers in this country earn, their travel option of choice is always, "Hey, let's put a G-IV on the old debit card..."

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 16, 2014 04:03 PM (XO6WW)

525 And now the cover up begins.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2014 04:03 PM (KK+mC)

526 Better than "Get a grip" would have been Pete from Shaun of the Dead shouting at Shaun, "Sort your shit out, mate!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at October 16, 2014 04:03 PM (PMGbu)

527 Anybody got a list of countries where they expect tanks will be on the street [meaning martial law] before this is all over? I expect pretty much along the upper half of Africa, some parts of Europe. Could see something in the US but I'm betting localized, such as parts of Texas. In Africa mostly for enforced quarantine, but elsewhere because rioting mobs.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)

528 Posted by: John Cougar Ebolencamp

Yer killin' me.

Posted by: HR, deliriously feverish at October 16, 2014 04:04 PM (/kI1Q)

529 >>IIRC, he didn't even HAVE the rock; he just visited the place that had it. Apparently just driving by slowly would have been enough to indict him.

Pretty sure he had it in a cage on the top of his car during a road trip.

Posted by: MSM reporter applying for job at Vox at October 16, 2014 04:04 PM (0xTsz)

530 Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 04:03 PM (iBXmZ) <<<<

Count on it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2014 04:04 PM (mgE2f)

531 I wanna know if we have some secret stash of zmapp or similar that obama and his flunkies think they are gonna have access to if ebola gets loose.

That plan at the end of Doctor Strangelove?

Yeah, that.

Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 04:04 PM (MMC8r)

532 Anybody got a list of countries where they expect tanks will be on the street [meaning martial law] before this is all over?

I'm sort of expecting tanks in Hamburg, but for a totally different epidemic.

Posted by: HR, deliriously feverish at October 16, 2014 04:04 PM (/kI1Q)

533 yeah, well when you have piles of ebola infected corpses plausible deniability is not so useful. if it happens on your watch it is your problem.

we have consequences for treason.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 04:05 PM (iBXmZ)

534 "When people say they want their country back, they want to put representatives in charge of fixing this. Real oversight. Ours."

---
And then those same "people" go an elect Dumb and Dumber twice and re-elect corrupt and incompetent incumbents to office at rates that would have made the old Soviet Politboro blush in embarrassment.

The "people" get the government they deserve. Good and hard.

Posted by: Lt. Duh at October 16, 2014 04:05 PM (Xv7f/)

535 "Rest assured that our system is working as it should."

Posted by: Gov. Rick Perry - October 15,2014 at October 16, 2014 04:05 PM (NUCTk)

536 Vox's reporting is grounded in empirical data and Ezra Klein is one of the most thoughtful and honest journalists working today.

Posted by: jonathan chait at October 16, 2014 04:06 PM (HstNY)

537 519 It's a good thing for Obama and the people who installed him (Ayers, Soros) that I'm: (1) sane, and (2) Christian.
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 16, 2014 04:01 PM (afLO3)

***********
Yeah, about that, we're gonna need copies of your pastor's sermons for the past few years. Mm-kay? That'd be great.

Posted by: The Gubment at October 16, 2014 04:06 PM (vgIRn)

538 Ye gads, Paul Mirengoff over on Powerline is agreeing with Shep Smith that we should not panic over Ebola.

Posted by: Anna Puma


I absolutely loath that kind of sanctimonious hall-monitor act.

Who the fuck is calling *for* panic? Who exactly is asking everyone to loose their shit?

No one.

Further, is there ever a time one should advocate panic? When exactly does that help things?

Self-indulgent hand waving. Mirengoff should know better.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 16, 2014 04:06 PM (6RoUP)

539 Feckless and slightly queer Boehner needs to call a border closure vote right now.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at October 16, 2014 04:06 PM (XzRw1)

540 >>Can someone send a tweet to this idiot? Takes dumb blonde to a whole new level: http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=256062

Pair this with the Slate writer who announced she was disturbed that so many of the healthcare professionals providing care in Africa were icky Christians missionaries.

You just can't win with these people.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 04:06 PM (D/504)

541 Its an artist's rendition based on testimony of a witness.

-
I don't know, officer. It was dark and it happened so fast and he was wearing a hoody. Hade Skittles and Arizona Ice Tea, too.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2014 04:07 PM (XUKZU)

542 So...what supplies are you ordering from Amazon?

I have food, drinks, some gloves and masks stockpiled.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 04:07 PM (0xTsz)

543 Vox's reporting is grounded in empirical data and Ezra Klein is one of the most thoughtful and honest journalists working today.
Posted by: jonathan chait at October 16, 2014 04:06 PM (HstNY)

klein's definition of empirical data is data from emperor obama.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 04:08 PM (iBXmZ)

544 Back in June,

President Ebola and his plague-o-leftwits should've closed travel from the hot zones.

. as in period, as in anything less was infectiously stupid.

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2014 04:08 PM (DL2i+)

545 So is this art???

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/it-bag-lionel-daviet-15.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:08 PM (waEDw)

546 Jay

I don't know -- Dems I talk to, including women, say Hillary isn't "inspiring." She's a pragmatic bounder from Arkansas, aging poorly, and fattening. Her husband is a smooth-talking philanderer. Warren is an acceptable ideologue, but she's unattractive and pretty much a harridan. They're holding out for better options but sigh when Hillary's name comes up.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 04:08 PM (KJWdN)

547 So I call up my doctor
I say, "Give me shot for Ebola"
He said , "You don't need no shot, you need to grow up son"
I said, "Growing up leads to growing old and then to dying
And dying to me don't sound like all that much fun"
So I said

I fight Ebola, Ebola always wins
Well, I fight Ebola, Ebola always wins
Well, I've been doing it since I was a young kid, I come out grinnin'
Well, I fight Ebola, Ebola always wins


Posted by: John Cougar Ebolencamp at October 16, 2014 04:08 PM (NaV4z)

548 oh my

Eliana Johnson @elianayjohnson

In Apr intv CDC's Tom Frieden said ecigs are greater threat than infectious diseases. That explains a lot!


NRO the corner tweets

She links an LATimes story.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 04:09 PM (IXrOn)

549 I got an email notifying me about a web video CE.

The jokes on them. I was out buying supplies for my cabin.

Posted by: Daybrother at October 16, 2014 04:09 PM (cttli)

550
ohoh

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 04:09 PM (IXrOn)

551 On Instapundit: California school evacuated amid ebola scare after student who MAY have shared a flight with Texas nurse vomits in class.


Let the panic begin.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 04:09 PM (jbo6O)

552 America. Get a grip.

Posted by: Shemp Smith at October 16, 2014 04:09 PM (W5DcG)

553 Perdue's recent comments regarding outsourcing made the perfect Nunn ad for the LIVs. Good job David.

Posted by: Adam at October 16, 2014 04:09 PM (HstNY)

554 Here ya go, from Drudge. Link in name.

Is the nurse pointing a MAC9 at the patients head?

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 16, 2014 04:09 PM (rwI+c)

555 >>Ye gads, Paul Mirengoff over on Powerline is agreeing with Shep Smith that we should not panic over Ebola.

Shep Smith lecturing others not to panic?

That's rich.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 04:10 PM (D/504)

556
The ebola virus looks like the obama logo. Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2014 04:10 PM (mgE2f)

557 545

Sure, look at the precision of that tan line. The elbows are also expertly done.

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 04:10 PM (KJWdN)

558 artisanal ette, please don your spacesuit.

Good luck.

Posted by: CM at October 16, 2014 04:11 PM (0NdlF)

559 >>>So...what supplies are you ordering from Amazon?

Amazon? I'm getting a case of single malt for disinfection purposes.

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 04:11 PM (3ZtZW)

560

The fact that Frieden was attacking e-cigs to begin with shows he's all political. This was all about big money donations to the "right" groups.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 04:12 PM (IXrOn)

561 >>On Instapundit: California school evacuated amid ebola scare after student who MAY have shared a flight with Texas nurse vomits in class.
Let the panic begin.

You know what? I don't blame them. At least the school was taking responsibility for its students health and not just calling the CDC.

In the absence of competence from, or trust in, the federal government agencies responsible to managing this we're going to see more of it.

Call it an epidemic of an abundance of caution.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 04:12 PM (D/504)

562 Artisanal Barrel.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 04:12 PM (0xTsz)

563 In Apr intv CDC's Tom Frieden said ecigs are greater threat than infectious diseases. That explains a lot!


***********

Freiden is a prog of the first order. Every job he's had has been in bureaucracy, and his bio is simply littered with terms like "tax," "mandate," "secret," "require" and "unknowingly."

He was Bloomberg's health enforcer on salt, soda, secret diabetic A1C reporting, secret HIV reporting, etc.


Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at October 16, 2014 04:12 PM (vgIRn)

564 @356 But no one but the UK Daily Mail is mentioning that Ebola Amber had a slight fever before she went to Ohio
---------------------

ABC is. They're also mentioning that the she called the CDC asked whether it was okay for her to fly with the mild fever... and was given the go ahead.

Posted by: junior at October 16, 2014 04:12 PM (UWFpX)

565 >>>Let the panic begin.

*You're* the one encouraging panic!

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 04:13 PM (3ZtZW)

566 America. Get a grip.

Posted by: Shemp Smith


I have a grip. On this baseball bat.

Shall we test it, rabbit-head?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 16, 2014 04:13 PM (6RoUP)

567 Call your Congressmen. Stop Obamabola now!







(Trying out new bumper sticker ideas.)

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 04:13 PM (2cS/G)

568 Further, is there ever a time one should advocate panic? When exactly does that help things?


Statistically more people survive when they think only of themselves. Also, it is imperative to bring all bodies to orgasm simultaneously.

Posted by: Hawkwind at October 16, 2014 04:13 PM (rwI+c)

569 he won't lead

he won't follow

and he won't get out of the way


Are you saying he's going to run for a 3rd term as a Republican?

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2014 04:13 PM (DL2i+)

570 artisanal ette, please don your spacesuit.

Good luck.
Posted by: CM at October 16, 2014 04:11 PM (0NdlF)


I've got a barrel within a barrel. It's where my distillery is... So, I'm good.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 04:14 PM (IXrOn)

571 Why would bureaucrats like Freiden ever solve problems? Once they do they're out of a job.

Better to look for new make-work, like promoting the 'Lesbian Fat Reduction Program', etc.

Posted by: --- at October 16, 2014 04:14 PM (MMC8r)

572 artisanal 'ette, should be aware the last person in the barrel took a shit in there. Just keep up against the side.

Posted by: Heralder at October 16, 2014 04:14 PM (/Mxso)

573 Just got FB update from Captain Whitebread. He is recovering well and should be going home tomorrow.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 16, 2014 04:14 PM (GDulk)

574 he won't lead



he won't follow



and he won't get out of the way


Making him sound like some nefarious bowel blockage. Or a kidney stone.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:14 PM (waEDw)

575
I don't know -- Dems I talk to, including women,
say Hillary isn't "inspiring."

Posted by: Feh at October 16, 2014 04:08 PM (KJWdN)


There's our problem right there. We're hiring a CEO, not a guru. I don't want inspiration; I want a competent executive. Bore me with quiet competence.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 04:14 PM (SLea8)

576 Further, is there ever a time one should advocate panic? When exactly does that help things?

I've been advocating panic since 2008. Of course most people figure "he's just a democrat, how bad can he be?"

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2014 04:15 PM (A6vWB)

577 *You're* the one encouraging panic!
Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet


Nope. Just know that you take 1 rumor, mix with a metric shit ton of LiV's and watch the results.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 04:15 PM (jbo6O)

578 >>In Apr intv CDC's Tom Frieden said ecigs are greater threat than infectious diseases. That explains a lot!

Yes, they've redefined "disease" to include vices and reckless behavior. Getting in a car crash is covered by the CDC. So is obesity.

These are not infectious diseases that they should be preventing or controlling.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 04:15 PM (D/504)

579 Hello, Horde. I'll be released from the hospital tomorrow. Thanks for all you've done.

Also, the prayers for hot nurses? Answered.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the phone at October 16, 2014 04:16 PM (N0Z/x)

580 Paul Mirengoff over on Powerline is agreeing with Shep Smith


I see his problem right there.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 04:16 PM (SLea8)

581 Use your wheels, it is what they are for. If no wheels are available, metal, not organic limbs, should be used.

Think only of yourself.

Posted by: Hawkwind at October 16, 2014 04:16 PM (rwI+c)

582 *sneaks a beer in for Captain Whitebread*

Remember do not eat the fish.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:16 PM (waEDw)

583 566 America. Get a grip.

Posted by: Shemp Smith

I have a grip. On this baseball bat.

Shall we test it, rabbit-head?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 16, 2014 04:13 PM (6RoUP)


********
Shep just needs to be done with it. Come out, quit, and get overpaid for a poorly rated show on MSNBC, get fired after two years, and retire to a darling little cottage in Key West.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at October 16, 2014 04:16 PM (vgIRn)

584 in all seriousness, I saw someone mention that frieden had worked as a community organizer for a time. is that true?

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 04:16 PM (iBXmZ)

585 Artisanal Barrel.
Posted by: Mama AJ at October 16, 2014 04:12 PM (0xTsz)



*burccup*

I never left.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 04:17 PM (IXrOn)

586 572 artisanal 'ette, should be aware the last person in the barrel took a shit in there. Just keep up against the side.
Posted by: Heralder at October 16, 2014 04:14 PM (/Mxso)

The pile is in the corner.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 16, 2014 04:17 PM (sgrzZ)

587 Yes, they've redefined "disease" to include vices
and reckless behavior. Getting in a car crash is covered by the CDC. So
is obesity.



Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2014 04:15 PM (D/504)



How about touring the ghetto? Or is that covered under "reckless behavior?"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 04:17 PM (SLea8)

588 Please, please, please,
if you read only one article about ebola today,
let it be this one:

http://tinyurl.com/k5ts2eo

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 16, 2014 04:17 PM (afLO3)

589 @363 I live a few blocks from a hospital in central NJ, my wide is having a baby in mid december, am I going to take her there for the c-section and 4 days of hospital stay. Am I going to go there with Ebola patients? Fuck no... I'm not sure what we're going to do in that case, but not checking into the hospital thats for sure.
--------------------

Call the paramedics from your home. Explain that your wife suddenly went into labor, and she's delivering *RIGHT NOW*! That actually happened with the twins in my family. My Dad delivered the first one, and the paramedics arrived in time to deliver the second.

Outside of special circumstances (C-Section, etc...) there's no reason why you absolutely must deliver at the hospital. The primary reason to do so is for better access to care. But if there's good reason to believe that's not the case (i.e. epidemic...), I don't think there's any reason why you *must* go.

Posted by: junior at October 16, 2014 04:17 PM (UWFpX)

590 Awww, liberals don't want to hurt someone's feelings ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjmWv82HHQs

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at October 16, 2014 04:17 PM (wT9UL)

591 Heck of a job, Frieden!

Posted by: Oblahblah at October 16, 2014 04:18 PM (EOMLX)

592 What about an exponential quantum leap?
Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2014 04:02 PM (k79LC)


--------------------------------------------


How about, bigger than a shitload.

Posted by: Soona at October 16, 2014 04:18 PM (JbuGO)

593 Thanks for all you've done.
Also, the prayers for hot nurses? Answered.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread



Woot woot! Good to hear!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 04:18 PM (jbo6O)

594 492 Ye gads, Paul Mirengoff over on Powerline is agreeing with Shep Smith that we should not panic over Ebola.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 03:53 PM (waEDw)

If the towel boy at Shep's bathhouse got it, you'd see a level of hysteria from Shep that would make his Katrina drama look downright wooden

Posted by: kbdabear at October 16, 2014 04:18 PM (aTXUx)

595 "So Egon, how big is this Twinkie?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:18 PM (waEDw)

596
Ever seen a guy with a 104 fever and explosive diarrhea climb a 12 foot barbed wire fence? Nope. Build the fence.
..........................
We should welcome with open arms those who work so hard to come here.

Posted by: Luis Gutierrez at October 16, 2014 04:19 PM (wAQA5)

597 "And then those same "people" go an elect Dumb and Dumber twice and
re-elect corrupt and incompetent incumbents to office at rates that
would have made the old Soviet Politboro blush in embarrassment.

Yep. Very frustrating. No; maddening actually.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 16, 2014 04:19 PM (Vp1dQ)

598 My favorite is "quantum leap," which is of course the smallest possible increment in a quantity, but our betters who use the expression think it means a huge leap.

Idiots.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 04:00 PM (SLea

Then I'm an idiot too because that's what I thought it meant.

On the plus side, I don't go through life insisting that I'm anyone's better.

Posted by: suitably adequate at October 16, 2014 04:19 PM (DvOSv)

599 Do not attempt to rescue friends, relatives, loved ones
You have only a few seconds to escape
Use those seconds sensibly or you will inevitably die
Think only of yourself

Posted by: Hawkwind at October 16, 2014 04:20 PM (rwI+c)

600

Amber to CDC: I'm one of the Ebola index patient's nurses. Running a bit of a fever. I've got this plane ticket to Cleveland. What do you think?

CDC: Any projectile vomiting? Explosive diarrhea? Blood oozing from pores or eyeballs? Writhing in agony?

Amber: Well... no...

CDC: You're good to go.

Posted by: Lt. Duh at October 16, 2014 04:20 PM (Xv7f/)

601 Ever seen a guy with a 104 fever and explosive diarrhea climb a 12 foot barbed wire fence? Nope. Build the fence.

He might fly over it. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 04:20 PM (SLea8)

602 Stop complaining about Freiden. The only problem is he doesn't have enough money or power.
Except for that part about being worthless and dangerously incompetent he's done a pretty good job so far.

Posted by: Daybrother at October 16, 2014 04:20 PM (qsjlg)

603 It's nice Ace gave us a "Workout window."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 04:20 PM (IXrOn)

604
..... crap. Now Ive got writers block....

Posted by: John Cougar Ebolencamp at October 16, 2014 04:20 PM (NaV4z)

605 @370 Is Barky stupid enough to let himself be shown up that badly? He did let Clinton take over a press conference, so he's pretty stupid, but I can't believe he'd be stupid enough to let Romney fix his fuckup.
------------------

In the run-up to the 2012 election, I heard through the rumor mill that the White House administration was panicking at the thought of Romney winning the election and then being able to claim credit for the recovery that the administration *knew* was just around the corner. I suspect that Obama would never pick Mitt to head the CDC for the exact same reason. He thinks the government is going to beat this, and he has the chance to look good. There's no way he's going to give his former political rival a chance to steal the spotlight from him.

Posted by: junior at October 16, 2014 04:20 PM (UWFpX)

606 Also, the prayers for hot nurses? Answered.

Heh. Glad to hear it. Get better!

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2014 04:21 PM (A6vWB)

607 Daily Mail: "The recommended 21-day quarantine period for the Ebola virus is not long
enough to contain the spread of the disease, a new study has warned."


The science is settled. Unlike everyone's concerns.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 16, 2014 04:21 PM (SLea8)

608 Awareness and sharing of information do not equal panic, they equal an infringement on the MSM's purview, thus Shep and company's Chip Diller routine.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2014 04:21 PM (2cS/G)

609 Hey John Cougar, I am pretty sure Gaylord Focker has a pretty pink Ebola house all set aside for you.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:21 PM (waEDw)

610 "So Egon, how big is this Twinkie?"


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:18 PM (waEDw)


http://tinyurl.com/8qmsdok

Posted by: Peter Venkman at October 16, 2014 04:21 PM (1aUjs)

611 "599. Think only of yourself..."

We call that a campaign theme.

Posted by: David Axelrod at October 16, 2014 04:22 PM (Xv7f/)

612 The recommended 21-day quarantine period for the Ebola virus is not long enough to contain the spread of the disease, a new study has warned."

----


So.... should we wait till 28 Days Later???

Oh.... wait...

Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2014 04:22 PM (NaV4z)

613 nood

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2014 04:22 PM (jbo6O)

614 Posted by: junior at October 16, 2014 04:17 PM (UWFpX)

How wide is she? P:

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2014 04:22 PM (KK+mC)

615 I guess the JEF did it

USA

#BREAKING Obama issues executive order calling up reserve troops to combat Ebola in Africa

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 04:23 PM (IXrOn)

616 I guess the JEF did it

USA

#BREAKING Obama issues executive order calling up reserve troops to combat Ebola in Africa

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2014 04:23 PM (IXrOn)

617 Whitebread is gonna be posting upskirts in the ONT

#twoweeks

Posted by: Bigby's Sock Puppet at October 16, 2014 04:24 PM (3ZtZW)

618 How about, bigger than a shitload.


Posted by: Soona

Would that be a metric shitload?

Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2014 04:24 PM (k79LC)

619 The Center for the Control of Disease Perception.

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2014 04:24 PM (DL2i+)

620 Hey John Cougar, I am pretty sure Gaylord Focker has a pretty pink Ebola house all set aside for you.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:21 PM (waEDw)

----


Thanks!! I'll "Check it Out"......

Posted by: John Cougar Ebolencamp at October 16, 2014 04:24 PM (NaV4z)

621 Outside of special circumstances (C-Section, etc...) there's no reason why you absolutely must deliver at the hospital. The primary reason to do so is for better access to care. But if there's good reason to believe that's not the case (i.e. epidemic...), I don't think there's any reason why you *must* go.

Posted by: junior


The problem is if for whatever the reason the fetus suddenly drops its heart rate it will need a crash C-Section. Minutes count.
Not saying it isn't your call but there are risks giving birth at home.

Posted by: Daybrother at October 16, 2014 04:24 PM (5tww6)

622 Re: those telling Americans to get a grip.

Has this administration done one thing to engender confidence in its basic competence or good will toward the American people?

Name it and be specific.

Posted by: Northernlurker (AKA TGinTV) at October 16, 2014 04:25 PM (AkoL+)

623 And now, in little old Belton, Texas, we have 3 schools closed due to a family on the same flight as the nurse with the fever. One family member has been considered as "high risk" due to sitting 3 feet away from the nurse on the plane. The family has 2 children, one in middle-school and one in elementary school. Belton ISD has closed both of those schools, plus a day-care that transports students to and from the elementary school each day. The family has voluntarily quarantined itself, and the district is figuring out how to clean the schools and buses. BISD reports that the schools will be closed tomorrow (10-17) as well, and hopes that they will be able to open on Monday. Superintendent Kincannon emailed parents this morning about the closings, after being informed by the CDC (late Wednesday night) that it was "re-evaluating" the status of the family. She conveyed her frustration with the CDC in her email.

Posted by: BG in Texas at October 16, 2014 04:26 PM (ZGW/b)

624 What is 44-font type?
44 point? (header looks much larger)


?????????

Posted by: why????? at October 16, 2014 04:26 PM (zYgqi)

625 589 @363 I live a few blocks from a hospital in central NJ, my wide is having a baby in mid december, am I going to take her there for the c-section and 4 days of hospital stay. Am I going to go there with Ebola patients? Fuck no... I'm not sure what we're going to do in that case, but not checking into the hospital thats for sure.
***************


Natural birth at home in the tub. NJ being a prog state, midwives and doulas are probably illegal, but there's always an underground.

Had both of ours at home. One six weeks early. No problems.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at October 16, 2014 04:27 PM (vgIRn)

626 no more troops for ebola.



no good reason aside from some from of treason.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 04:27 PM (iBXmZ)

627 What aren't they telling us?

Jim Sciutto @jimsciutto 12m
Just in: POTUS signs Executive Order authorizing deployment of National Guard & Reservists to support #Ebola ops in West Africa

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 16, 2014 04:28 PM (ZPrif)

628 congress has to stop sending more troops to africa.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 04:29 PM (iBXmZ)

629 "Dr. Frieden insisted that if we ban travel from the three Ebola-stricken countries, exposed people can just slip into nearby countries and fly from there, and we will be unable to monitor them here."

---

He ought to know. Duncan came into the U.S. through Belgium.
Posted by: Lt. Duh at October 16, 2014 03:59 PM (Xv7f/)

How? He still has to have a passport and travel visas. He has to go through customs and flight check ins. He could have stopped off at 12 different countries on his way here, and everyone of those countries would have been recorded.

His country of origin will still be apparent when he boards the flight and when he goes through customs.

Traveling by ship here, same....unless he is on some freighter, and jumps off when he gets here. Still, it would take days to get here and Mr.Ebola will be liquidfied by then.

I'm thinking that they Feds' know and have cast a blind eye to a black mark underground railroad of sorts where people are flying or boating to South America and then making their way into the US from there.

If the man had half a brain, he might realize that if someone is infected with Ebola, a trip like I just described is going to mean they are dead before they ever get here.

Instead, he keeps advocating for allowing Ebola carries to be brought here in the most direct manner possible.

Posted by: Jen at October 16, 2014 04:29 PM (H2RaY)

630 Would be tyrants tend to dispatch suspect troops as far from the capitol as possible before making moves to seize power.

Of course I could be overly paranoid.

It could be as simple as this President wants Guard troops to bring the disease back to their home towns.

You know, I will take would be tyrant over homicidal maniac.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:30 PM (waEDw)

631 Oh, and the Daily Mail...

For God's sake, Get A Grip! is what Obama is saying to us. They just didn't put a bubble around it coming out of his mouth.

Posted by: Jen at October 16, 2014 04:30 PM (H2RaY)

632 If someone emptied a 100-round magazine at me and I dodged 94% of the bullets, it might still sting a little.

Posted by: Norcross at October 16, 2014 04:30 PM (tmDTL)

633 Eeee-bo-la! *cough shart bletch cough* Eeee-bo-la!

Posted by: Ricola guy at October 16, 2014 04:31 PM (wAQA5)

634 I wonder how much ebola blood and fluid the muzzies are gathering and freezing for future use. And that's not a high-tech process either.

Posted by: Soona at October 16, 2014 04:33 PM (JbuGO)

635
FU bozo, I quit.

Posted by: sane National Guard troops at October 16, 2014 04:41 PM (wAQA5)

636 @614 How wide is she? P:
------------------

Do I need to talk to AtC about borrowing the Ravage?

/glare

Posted by: junior at October 16, 2014 04:41 PM (UWFpX)

637 Texas and Ohio shall pay for disappointing me in 2004.

Eat my *ss.

Posted by: John Kerry at October 16, 2014 04:42 PM (8A6wH)

638 238 now obama is talking about nationalizing the guard so aid will get to ebola faster. WTF?
Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 02:53 PM (iBXmZ)
* * *

Holy crap! Remember that executive order he issued back in 2010? The one that gave him the power to take over the states' National Guard units in an "emergency"?

http://tinyurl.com/mly7dce

Lots of us freaked out at the time, since we knew Obama's always been itching to declare martial law; it's the only way he can complete the coup and attain TOTAL power.

I fear this ebola situation may soon become the crisis he's been waiting for.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 16, 2014 04:42 PM (afLO3)

639 Welcome back, Captain Whitebread! Just got home from my own cardiac adventure Monday nite. Man, nothing like a medically compromised immune system these days, is there?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 16, 2014 04:44 PM (XO6WW)

640 Jihadis can infect themselves,

Why bother, there's plenty of travelers who can be easily touched. It's bad enough that draining a quart from a recent corpse, chilling it, out of the hot zone and onto the hand rails at Heathrow could kill plenty of infidels and wreck Global Civilization.

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2014 04:47 PM (DL2i+)

641 398 Average Jen


"Why does Obama's face look so weirdly asymmetrical in this photo? One eye looks a good half-inch higher than the other one. Is this the first unretouched photo we've ever seen of the guy?"


He takes after his spirtual father.

Posted by: Please let me introduce myself.. at October 16, 2014 04:48 PM (8A6wH)

642 630 Would be tyrants tend to dispatch suspect troops as far from the capitol as possible before making moves to seize power.

Of course I could be overly paranoid.

It could be as simple as this President wants Guard troops to bring the disease back to their home towns.

You know, I will take would be tyrant over homicidal maniac.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:30 PM (waEDw)
*****************
Remember that this is the creep who stood on the floor of the Illinois Senate a few years back and gave a speech about why infanticide -- killing breathing, squirming, squawling babies -- should be kept legal in Illinois. The man is COLD -- lacking in all normal human empathy -- sick, psycho, warped -- I don't put anything past him.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 16, 2014 04:51 PM (afLO3)

643 There is no apparent link to Jamie Gorelick.

That we know of...
yet.

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2014 04:56 PM (DL2i+)

644 Also chortle.

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2014 04:57 PM (DL2i+)

645 They just didn't put a bubble around it coming out of his mouth.
Posted by: Jen at October 16, 2014 04:30 PM (H2RaY)


That's so hawt.

Posted by: Reggie Love at October 16, 2014 04:59 PM (vgIRn)

646 "491 George W. Bush was held personally responsible for everything that didn't go right when hurricaine Katrina hit New Orleans. The MFM complained relentlessly about everything FEMA did.

Okay, MFM, here's your chance to be consistent. If you are devoted to the truth, to getting the story out, to speaking truth to power... eh, who am I kidding, it's the MFM.
Posted by: mr_jack at October 16, 2014 03:52 PM (O7l6D)"

In the midst of Katrina, Lib talking heads on TV were making snide comments like, "Republicans don't do hurricanes."

Well, I think its safe to say, "Democrats don't do viruses."

Think we'll see the MSM use a line like that???

Nahh...........

Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at October 16, 2014 05:06 PM (1o4B5)

647 Would be tyrants tend to dispatch suspect troops as far from the capitol as possible before making moves to seize power.

Of course I could be overly paranoid.

It could be as simple as this President wants Guard troops to bring the disease back to their home towns.

You know, I will take would be tyrant over homicidal maniac.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 16, 2014 04:30 PM (waEDw)

yeah cling to the "it is incompetence not maliciousness" aphorism is a full time job these days.

Posted by: n at October 16, 2014 05:07 PM (iBXmZ)

648 I was led to believe Barack Obama is a better infectious disease manager than the CDC. Not to mention a better military strategist than the Pentagon. He's got this covered.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at October 16, 2014 05:20 PM (ufrZ6)

649 Maybe the CDC knows that their small team and 17-20 ebola beds aren't going to be enough. They were hoping the hospitals across the country would get the crash course, I guess.

That's probably going to be necessary since the administration is seeding the country with people from ebola zones.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at October 16, 2014 05:27 PM (whxbn)

650 If the hospitals can't handle it, then obviously the government will have to step in and run the hospitals.

Posted by: Horatio Bologna at October 16, 2014 05:34 PM (mRbV0)

651 Ebola: A nurse's perspective:

http://tinyurl.com/mcbpz8q


Give this to your next denier.

Great explanation of "droplet" vs "airborne" and very well written horror story of facts.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Ebola Czarina at October 16, 2014 06:11 PM (dMEBN)

652
Keep in mind that under ObamaCare, Health Care resources are being CUT, so reserves are less present when needed.

The man is an incompetent, evil, stupid, useless scumbag, worse even than Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Occam's Tool at October 17, 2014 03:28 PM (OcQfO)

653
Alex the Chick: your assumption would be wrong, as the Doctors from the CDC would have to be state licensed and approved to practice in that hospital before they could "take over."

Regs are great for emergencies.

Posted by: Occam's Tool at October 17, 2014 03:31 PM (OcQfO)

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