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WSJ Op-Ed: Hey, Conservatives, Stop Beating Up on Crony Capitalism
He actually, out of his own mouth, seems to equate "big business" with "crony capitalism." I guess we're not debating the terminology any longer.Amid the fight for the soul of the Republican Party, some elements of the GOP coalition have become overtly hostile to Big Business. Defeating crony capitalism has become the battle cry of libertarian conservatives. The Export-Import Bank has become the latest in a long line of targets that include highway funding, terrorism risk insurance and "too big to fail" banks. Big Business wants immigration reform and higher academic standards for elementary and secondary schools--policy priorities that drive the hard right into conniptions. ... What would happen if Big Business decided to change sides? What would happen if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing pro-business Democrats?Ah, so it's hardball, then. Well here's another question, then: What if the GOP began pushing a business tax break for small and mid-sized business to be paid for by a tax increase on big business? So long as we're talking about Things We Each Could Do.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: jwb7605 at July 21, 2014 07:44 PM (ZALPg)
Posted by: Ronster at July 21, 2014 07:45 PM (vPP2c)
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 07:45 PM (TETYm)
Posted by: kathysaysso at July 21, 2014 07:46 PM (jPT60)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 21, 2014 07:46 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (ASn1R)
--The "reform" and the "standards" conflict.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (GW/jL)
Has it ever been defined?
Because it was coined by the Left as a way to demonize Capitalism.
Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (1hodj)
You like your chances better with "small government" Republicans or with Dems who have been in Big Labor' pocket for decades?
Posted by: Austin Danger Powers at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (oPQ6g)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 07:49 PM (ASn1R)
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at July 21, 2014 07:49 PM (dMSj2)
Posted by: Evil Midnight Troll What Trolls At Midnight at July 21, 2014 07:50 PM (dUGHS)
Good start. How about we get rid of all subsidies as well. No farms, no oil, no green energy bullshit.
The freer the market the better.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 07:51 PM (g1DWB)
WSJ isn't Big Government.
WSJ is HUGE All-Controlling Government.
If you watch the mediocre Canadian Sci-Fi series Continuum with the exceptionally sizzling canuckette Rachel Nichols, you know the future has a "Corporate Congress."
That's what the WSJ wants.
WSJ is pro-fascism, yet weirdly anti-regulation.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:51 PM (HY/zQ)
Because crony capitalism!
There wouldn't be any cronyism if we get rid of capitalism!!
Posted by: dumbass low-info millenial at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (1hodj)
Agreed. If they want to play hardball, let's play hardball. If the CoC thinks they can bully us into submission, let's see what happens when they see a bidding war break out between -two- parties over who can tax big businesses higher than the other.
Posted by: Crude at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (/IrCS)
In other words, 'crony capitalism' is corruption in government.
Honest government is where all laws are administered equally without special exemptions for special friends of government. Where all laws apply equally to everyone even government officials. Where paying bribes to government officials for special favors gets both the bribe payer and the bribe taker a long prison sentence.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (NKlr4)
Read "common core is awesome you stupid idiots!"
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 07:54 PM (g1DWB)
A candidate who espouses a return to a level playing field will attract a huge number of the so-called independents, and probably energize the base.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 21, 2014 07:54 PM (QFxY5)
It's exactly because THIS type of bullshit the libertarian candidate in 2016 will spoil the election. People are sick of it and they want a third option.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:54 PM (HY/zQ)
Right! That's why socialism is way better.
Posted by: dumbass low-info millenial at July 21, 2014 07:55 PM (1hodj)
Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (1hodj)
Even if true, it's a real phrase that means something. It's ok to rail against it, because people understand that ____ capitalism != capitalism.
Posted by: HoboJerk, Re-branded at July 21, 2014 07:55 PM (E8IHS)
Didn't big business and Wall Street throw a shit ton of cash at Obama? Don't they already send money both ways?
Posted by: Xander Crews at July 21, 2014 07:55 PM (vlOFh)
you guys could hold something for me while I move back and forth
thatd be cool
Posted by: navycopjoe at July 21, 2014 07:56 PM (YS3vj)
Posted by: J. Immelt at July 21, 2014 07:56 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:54 PM (HY/zQ)
That's Perry's biggest weakness in 2016, imo. He's a bit too much of a cronyist. Not the worst kind, but he certainly gives favors to big companies to lure them into Texas.
Posted by: HoboJerk, Re-branded at July 21, 2014 07:56 PM (E8IHS)
Posted by: Fritz at July 21, 2014 07:56 PM (3wLHY)
Didn't big business and Wall Street throw a shit ton of cash at Obama? Don't they already send money both ways?
Posted by: Xander Crews at July 21, 2014 07:55 PM (vlOFh)
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They buy anyone that can be bought, which is most everybody.
Posted by: Dave S. at July 21, 2014 07:57 PM (UvR6d)
Crony capitalism is where you use the power of government to enrich your friends, and yourself. You don't tell business how to operate, or what to make as long as you get your cut.
Fascism is where the government tells business what to make, and how to make it. Fascist government doesn't care if the business makes a profit, or if the business owner makes a profit, and if the business owner gets to be too much of a pest, you just replace him with someone else.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 07:57 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: navycopjoe at July 21, 2014 07:57 PM (YS3vj)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)
Crony capitalism has two words in it, fascism only one.
You're welcome.
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at July 21, 2014 07:58 PM (dMSj2)
The Nazis had snappier uniforms ...
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 21, 2014 07:58 PM (TTOGv)
higher academic standards for elementary and secondary schools
That one always bugs me, I mean besides the stupid populism of it - who is against high academic standards?
But the standards can be whatever you want them to be, make them Einsteinian, there has to be actual teachers there and actual students to understand them... you want higher achievement, that is a different ball game and will take a break of the mostly public school monopoly.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2014 07:58 PM (cbUUP)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 07:58 PM (MMC8r)
Well, the point is that both crony capitalism and fascism is basically partnership with the government.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:59 PM (HY/zQ)
Because at heart I'm all for a free marketplace with no government meddling whatsoever.
Posted by: W. Buffett at July 21, 2014 07:59 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Caliban at July 21, 2014 08:00 PM (2ArJQ)
thatd be cool
Maybe if you ask Charlie Brown ... submissively, a'course ...
Posted by: Adriane ... at July 21, 2014 08:01 PM (TTOGv)
For instance, Costco. They're eager to be obama's partners. It benefits both parties -- obama has control over the giant retailer, and Costco's competition goes away.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:01 PM (HY/zQ)
Posted by: doug the head at July 21, 2014 08:01 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:01 PM (MMC8r)
This might take out the whole Upper Midwest
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vibrator_DeLight.JPG
Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (cZmyL)
Then you would start trading shirt buttons for food biscuits.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (NKlr4)
er, corporate partnership with the govt
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (HY/zQ)
What is your bidding, my master.
Posted by: toby928(C) at July 21, 2014 08:02 PM (QupBk)
They already have.
What would happen if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing pro-business Democrats?
Ditto.
Posted by: The Free Market Hat at July 21, 2014 08:03 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 21, 2014 08:03 PM (uhAkr)
he made the jump to fascism.... tutti pronto. Because it wasn't much of a jump
Posted by: doug the head at July 21, 2014 08:04 PM (8CdUx)
(I don't hate EXIM, of all the crap in DC - the one place that fights our trade wars, is self -funded, and is small - catches heat. How about OPIC or ITA if you want some blood?)
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:04 PM (TETYm)
Posted by: Benito Mussolini at July 21, 2014 08:04 PM (lN8KC)
Or at least in it's purist form, it is.
You make a good product...people will choose to buy it.
Cronyism is a corruption of Capitalism.
It's paying off government officials to grant you...something...either a grant, or a contract, or something that gives you an edge over your competitors.
So...cronyism is the opposite of what capitalism is supposed to be.
The term 'Crony Capitalism' hurts the cause of capitalism, by making it sound like the cronyism is the fault of capitalism.
When in fact...there is even more cronyism in a socialistic form of government.
Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:06 PM (1hodj)
They've become huge fundraising machines for ANTI-business Democrats, so kind of wonder what kind of threat is "back off or we'll keep doing what pisses you off"
Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (aTXUx)
This link goes to al-Jazeera, but: http://tinyurl.com/pwaqyqz
Anyway if Nader could also get it through his head that the Israelis are not his enemy either, he might be worth listening to again.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (3kZUM)
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (8MjqI)
Has it ever been defined?
Because it was coined by the Left as a way to demonize Capitalism.
Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 07:47 PM (1hodj)
It is corporatism.
Corporatism is when labor, business, farmer, &c. is brought into the fold of the state for the aims and benefit of the state, and where said labor, business, farmer, &c. is benefited in turn by the state for their service.
Corporatism is a way of organizing the economic life of a country under the direction of the state. It is the state that creates a corporatist economy, not the free market.
Posted by: Benito Mussolini at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (lN8KC)
It's all a symptom of government having too much control. Every business, no matter what size, has to fight an every increasing monster of bureaucracy and rules from an ever increasing alphabet of agencies.
Shrink the size of government and you shrink their control and the need to lobby them for favors.
Pretty simple equation.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:07 PM (0LHZx)
Speaking of corporate d-bags and the people who suffer them...
Here in MA, NH, and ME there's a popular and growing supermarket chain Market Basket -- a family business.
Today in stores all over, shelves are bare. Why? Because the beloved CEO was ousted by his cousins. The employees are revolting! I've never seen anything like it. Employees are calling in sick; store managers are risking their jobs by openly demanding the return of "Artie."
It sucks for me because now I have to shop at the inferior Stop And Shop.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:08 PM (HY/zQ)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:08 PM (PEIly)
I dare you to name any three. I don't think they exist.
And will only accept names of those who support business generally. A Democrat who routinely screws the productive sector, but favors grants and guaranteed subsidies for the solar company his brother owns or the factory in which he owns a 30% share, is NOT a pro-business Democrat.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 21, 2014 08:08 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Cloward-Piven jumping through Alinsky's Overton Window at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (jYxCp)
Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (/kBoL)
Regulate the fuck out of the guy in the garage tinkering with the better mouse trap and BIG MOUSE TRAP, Inc. will never have anything to worry about.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (0LHZx)
I believe that some hostility toward big business and preferential
treatment for those who are connected is the surest path to winning the
presidency in 2016.
A candidate who espouses a return to a level
playing field will attract a huge number of the so-called independents,
and probably energize the base.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Absolutely agree. People are tired of it.
Tell the WSJ that they should follow their hearts and do just what they suggest. It's time to call their bluff.
Posted by: pep at July 21, 2014 08:10 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Combine Honnete Ober Advancer Mercantiles at July 21, 2014 08:10 PM (lN8KC)
That is still vote buying, influence peddling, just with a different bunch of cronies.
Government is supposed to be neutral, not bailing out the failures, or restricting the successes, or trying to make everything 'fair'.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:10 PM (NKlr4)
Crony Capitalist. Those who use Government to change the rules for THEM, for economic gain... ie all are NOT equal before the Law... as they get exemptions and special deals.
Republican Party... supposed to be in favor of... and defenders of... the REPUBLIC.
GOPe, in favor of Crony Capitalism...
So we see the problem....
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (84gbM)
Semantics are for a-holes.
Look, obama is a tyrant, right? But he really doesn't act like the typical tyrant, does he?
Well, the fascism we suffer today under obama is the same dealio -- fascism...with a smile. Plus, The People are oblivious to the frying pan they reside in.
Times are different today. People are Dumb.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (HY/zQ)
I dare you to name any three. I don't think they exist.
And will only accept names of those who support business generally. A Democrat who routinely screws the productive sector, but favors grants and guaranteed subsidies for the solar company his brother owns or the factory in which he owns a 30% share, is NOT a pro-business Democrat.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 21, 2014 08:08 PM (iIzG7)
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There are lots of pro **BIG** Business Democrats. All of them except the extreme far left support Big Business.
On the other hand you will find ZERO Democrats who support small business.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: doug the head at July 21, 2014 08:04 PM (8CdUx)
"Jump to"? I created the Fascist movement, the Fascist ideology, and the Fascist Party, and literally wrote the encyclopedia entry on Fascism (scurrilous rumors that Gentile was the author notwithstanding).
Posted by: Benito M. at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (FEKsH)
Pretty simple equation.
Posted by: JackStraw
Uhhhhhhh, let's not go overboard here.
Posted by: Morton's Steak House at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (4nR9/)
You're telling me, they stink on ice!
Posted by: Louis XVI at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (dUGHS)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (HY/zQ)
Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (/kBoL)
For a start, people who aren't cruel.
It is cruelty to impose overly high standards upon people who cannot meet them. It might be callous and unthinking cruelty, like Bush's "No Child Left Behind"; or it might just be sadism, like when "literacy tests" were imposed on Jim Crow blacks and not so much on their equally-at-least-bumpkin redneck neighbors.
The educational system needs to understand that people don't start out with the same abilities and potential.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (3kZUM)
Posted by: toby928(C) at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:12 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:09 PM (/kBoL)
Absolute proof of Crony Capitalism????
I paid more in Taxes last year as an independent contractor..... than General Electric.... as I have for a number of years...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (84gbM)
happen if the Chamber of Commerce suddenly stopped being a huge
fundraising machine for the Republican Party and started financing
pro-business Democrats?
Well, the corrupting influence of their money would go to the Dems, who are evil anyway, so no biggie. And Americans would finally have an alternative party to vote for.
I say let's do this.
Posted by: Methos at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (hO9ad)
"Could Democrats make a coalition of big business and labor work? "
Sure. Read Atlas Shrugged, and The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. They'll grant cheap loans, waivers, and tax credits to "too big to fail" firms, import cheap labor, and make effectively impractical to strike without Administration permission, or effectively impractical to resist a strike without Administration permission.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (HZLYB)
Well, the fascism we suffer today under obama is the same dealio -- fascism...with a smile. Plus, The People are oblivious to the frying pan they reside in.
Times are different today. People are Dumb.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:11 PM (HY/zQ)
You wanted Galt's Gulch
You'll settle for Jackson's Whole
You'll get "Brave New World"
Posted by: Mustafa Mon at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (PEIly)
What they are into is being BFF with the president who will make life a living hell for anyone who tries to challenge their supremacy.
It's not so much they like Democrats, they like the party that likes regulation. And it happens to be the Democrats. If Republicans came out tomorrow and said we'll regulate twice as much, they'd all be Republicans tomorrow as well.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:14 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: pug at July 21, 2014 08:14 PM (uT0LN)
Crony capitalism. The Third Reich was big-time corporatist.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 21, 2014 08:14 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:14 PM (NKlr4)
Corporatism is when labor, business, farmer, c. is brought into the fold of the state for the aims and benefit of the state, and where said labor, business, farmer, c. is benefited in turn by the state for their service.
Corporatism is a way of organizing the economic life of a country under the direction of the state. It is the state that creates a corporatist economy, not the free market.
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No...what you've described here, TPH, is Statism and Socialism.
The Corporations are doing what they can to survive in the socialistic burdens that the State has created.
The same corruptions occur in totally socialist countries...as a way to survive, on the part of the Corporations.
And as a way for the corrupt governments to profit from their positions of power.
Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:15 PM (1hodj)
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 08:15 PM (8MjqI)
Posted by: Harry Reid, Searchlight Strangler at July 21, 2014 08:15 PM (7+fAS)
Posted by: Bronco Bammy at July 21, 2014 08:16 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:16 PM (/kBoL)
Posted by: Prezit Urkel X at July 21, 2014 08:16 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Hitler's Brain in a Jar at July 21, 2014 08:17 PM (7+fAS)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at July 21, 2014 08:17 PM (jtgkZ)
This doesn't happen in S. America or Europe or Asia. Today's 10 biggest companies in those areas are the same 10 biggest companies as 10 years ago or 50 years ago.
And it's happening in the US as well. Too big to fail = too big to give a fuck about innovation and meeting customer needs.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (0LHZx)
The Fed prints money out of thin air for large banks to borrow almost or at no interest which they pour into the stock market, REITs, MBS derivatives or Auto Loan derivatives. If they fail the taxpayer covers their losses but they keep the windfalls minus the kickbacks to politicians and bureaucrats
Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:13 PM (84gbM)>>>
GE, along with Goldman Sachs, is really trying to take over the government - at least in regards to their own area. They are making the Corporatist play.
Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (/kBoL)
You want Corporatism? I give you... Ethanol Subsidies.
It raises food prices... it makes food into fuel that we already have... and it does nothing energy wise, but make cars run worse (less gas mileage, while no real energy net gain once you grow it, ship it, and process it).
But try to get rid of it? And suddenly Famers are all in on the Government subsidy band wagon...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:19 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:19 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: M. Zuckerberg at July 21, 2014 08:19 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (0LHZx)
********
Hellooooooooo......
Posted by: Government Motors at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (jucos)
So if you are a big time CEO, consider the matrix of results;
Support Democrats, Democrats Win: The economy does worse, but you get major favors out of the government, that accrued to YOUR company, not your competitors.
Support Democrats, Republicans Win:The economy does better, you get neither helped nor hurt by the government
Support Republicans, Republicans Win: The economy does better, you might get small favors out of the government.
Support Republicans, Democrats Win: The economy does worse. The government actively comes after you and aides your competitors.
It is no surprise that big business is slowly but surely trending left...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (5DM9u)
Meanwhile... the stockholders of the Fed Reserve Bank... which is a SECRET group....
Takes a 6% cut right off the top of Fed Res Profits...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (8RZhE)
There's a world of difference between being pro-business and "giving us the business."
Posted by: Keith Arnold at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (iIzG7)
"Number 6A? I'm not familiar with that one."
"Thats where we go ridding into town, a whoopin everything within an inch of it's life. Except the boys of course."
"You spare the boys?"
"Hell No! We ass-rape the shit out of them at the Number 6A ball later that night!"
Posted by: Gay Mafia Crony Capitalist Taggert at July 21, 2014 08:21 PM (PEIly)
You want Corporatism? I give you... Ethanol Subsidies.
It raises food prices... it makes food into fuel that we already have... and it does nothing energy wise, but make cars run worse (less gas mileage, while no real energy net gain once you grow it, ship it, and process it).
But try to get rid of it? And suddenly Famers are all in on the Government subsidy band wagon...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:19 PM (84gbM)
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I'll see your ethanol subsidies and raise you a military cut. Oh what's that? You want to cut military spending? FUCKING COMMIE!!!! Don't you know how many jobs depend on the military? FUCKING COMMIE!!
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:21 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2014 08:21 PM (BAS5M)
When a man who is about to take over the federal govt tells you he's gonna eliminate the "bubbles and bursts" in the market and eliminate the "winners and losers" business environment, you'd be wise to believe him.
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:21 PM (HY/zQ)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (5DM9u)>>>
It's not so slow.
Posted by: gm at July 21, 2014 08:22 PM (/kBoL)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:22 PM (MMC8r)
********
Hellooooooooo......
Posted by: Government Motors at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (jucos)
That's nothing or so says Fiat
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 08:22 PM (HVff2)
All Government Subsidies are socialistic policies, Romeo13.
All of them.
It is taking from some people to give to other people.
That's socialism.
Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (1hodj)
Real freedom includes the freedom to crash and burn. And then try again. And again. And again.
In other news, AMC is showing all the Jurassic Park movies tonight. And that's cool.
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (5hsHQ)
Posted by: thunderb at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (qdKd9)
At least defense of the country is a Government function mandated by the Constitution...
Still don't see where Congress gets to tell me what I have to buy.... or what Producers have to make.
But that ship sailed a lonnnnnggg time ago.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: HAL at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (s7QM/)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:18 PM (0LHZx)
********
Hellooooooooo......
Posted by: Government Motors at July 21, 2014 08:20 PM (jucos)
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I can't for the life of me understand why anyone buys a GM. Put aside the fact that's it's run by the govt, what the fuck makes someone choose a Chevy over a Honda or Toyota? It's like saying hmmm, for the same price I can eat a nice steak or I can eat dog shit. I think I'll go with the dog shit.
Are Americans that fucking stupid to not realize they are buying pure junk?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)
I think of capitalism as free market. I think of crony capitalism as the Libtards giving hand outs to their preferred businesses/ideology. Solyndra comes to mind.
Posted by: Guido at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (VwjGX)
Of the four companies, 3 have been around less than 20 years. The fourth up until a decade or so ago was run by one of the most prominent Republicans in the country.
Business hasn't necessarily gone Democrat because they became in love with lefty ideas. They did it because DC has ever more control over their corporate lives.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (g1DWB)
I think theChamber of Commerce vastly overestimates the amount of control the DNC has overthe cimmunists they caucus with.
You want to jump CoC let's jump.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 08:25 PM (HY/zQ)
Coming! SWIDT? HAHAHAH, you'll take it and like it...
Posted by: Gay Mafia Crony Capitalist Hollywood Freak at July 21, 2014 08:25 PM (PEIly)
More.... its making rules that you have to do something as a business...
Like make so much gas, with so much ethanol... whether your customers want it or not.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 21, 2014 08:25 PM (84gbM)
They're worried that the GOPe is in danger of becoming irrelevant and they'll have no counterweight to the Dems who start talking about taxing and regulating THEM until their stock options go tits up or forces them to move everything overseas
Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:26 PM (aTXUx)
with lefty ideas. They did it because DC has ever more control over
their corporate lives.
And the money to fill their pockets.
A big government is a corrupt government.
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:26 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: thunderb at July 21, 2014 08:23 PM (qdKd9)
Don't knock Ivy League or the bovine Bloviator will go ape, errr mean cow shit
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 08:27 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: kbdabear at July 21, 2014 08:26 PM (aTXUx)
What editorial?
Posted by: Guido at July 21, 2014 08:27 PM (VwjGX)
Posted by: Twatter at July 21, 2014 08:27 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:27 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: Coolpapa at July 21, 2014 08:28 PM (1eFP9)
Posted by: Coolpapa at July 21, 2014 08:28 PM (1eFP9)
Exactly. payback for contribution to the Libtard agenda.
Posted by: Guido at July 21, 2014 08:29 PM (VwjGX)
Posted by: thunderb at July 21, 2014 08:30 PM (qdKd9)
No overhead spent of snappy uniforms.
Posted by: DaveA at July 21, 2014 08:30 PM (DL2i+)
Of the four companies, 3 have been around less than 20 years. The fourth up until a decade or so ago was run by one of the most prominent Republicans in the country.
Business hasn't necessarily gone Democrat because they became in love with lefty ideas. They did it because DC has ever more control over their corporate lives.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2014 08:24 PM (g1DWB)
____________
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Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 08:30 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:06 PM (1hodj)
When in fact...there is only cronyism in a socialistic form of government.
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 21, 2014 08:30 PM (o3MSL)
Smith's discussion of why surplus labor goes into the 'cartage trade' really hit me 'cuz it applied to me personally.
Friedman is easier to read, mostly.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:31 PM (NKlr4)
Crony Government.
Posted by: Coolpapa at July 21, 2014 08:28 PM (1eFP9)
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THIS!
Ding. Ding. Ding.
Someone finally gets it.
Cronyism is corruption. Period.
The fact that is happens in a country which is supposed to be embracing capitalism...doesn't mean that it is 'because of capitalism'.
The term 'Crony Capitalism' was coined by Leftists to demonize capitalism.
Posted by: wheatie at July 21, 2014 08:32 PM (1hodj)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 21, 2014 08:32 PM (1UzRc)
BAD GOOD
crony capitalism Big Business
Illegal Undocumented
Handout Access
Blur the lines enough and you can get away with anything and tar your opponent for anything because the words are no longer recognizable and apply to reality according to whoever has the bigger megaphone.
The schools and the media. I repeat, the schools and the media.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 08:32 PM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (jucos)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (NKlr4)]/i]
Which leads us right back to: The most honest government, is the smallest government.
Because human nature.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (6S1sD)
Crony Government.
Posted by: Coolpapa at July 21, 2014 08:28 PM (1eFP9)
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^^THIS!!!!^^^^
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (6S1sD)
Posted by: BobinTx at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (JiUtI)
...it's when a bunch of elites at the top determine outcomes for everyone...what you call it doesn't matter.
Posted by: CanaDave at July 21, 2014 08:35 PM (5Aom+)
Speaking of which, Carlos Slim has his slimy ass in the news today ("We should all work just three days a week!"), and it begs the question: Why isn't he in Guadalajara exploiting all these workers that are the building blocks of the 21st Century Economy? If they're that fucking good, why isn't Mexico the engine of Tomorrow?
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:35 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 21, 2014 08:33 PM (jucos)
It is. Because half the population is helpless, naive and beyond stupid. Hardcore Fascism not required, in this case.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at July 21, 2014 08:36 PM (6S1sD)
Posted by: CanaDave at July 21, 2014 08:35 PM (5Aom+)
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It DOES matter because that's what influences the LIVs and the fashionable "swing" voters. [cf. "Hope" and "Change"]
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 08:36 PM (Y5I9o)
Then the liberals write the rules, take over the language, and all of a sudden it's not just doing arithmetic it has to be done 'the right way' as defined by liberals. . and then schools start teaching morality which should be left to the churches, but churches are bad because that morality is bad.
The left's long march through the institutions was deliberate, methodical, and designed to get us to where we are now, and the conservatives never saw it coming. Like being murdered by a baloney slicer, one little sliver at a time.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:37 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:38 PM (MMC8r)
...well, I should say then that it doesn't matter to someone who doesn't want to be a slave to it.
Posted by: CanaDave at July 21, 2014 08:38 PM (5Aom+)
Posted by: Illegal Alien at July 21, 2014 08:38 PM (rCS6C)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days
left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)
Fundamentally identical, but the Left threw the word around so much in the Bush years that fascism to most people now means conservative and/or insufficiently jubilant about homosexuals marrying.
Posted by: mugiwara at July 21, 2014 08:39 PM (3a584)
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:37 PM (NKlr4)-----------------Newsletter?
Posted by: Dexter Morgan at July 21, 2014 08:39 PM (XtIgv)
You want to jump CoC let's jump.
Posted by: sven10077
I think the CoC over estimates the power they have with small business men. A couple a leading questionnaires and a small fee for a few networking events do not a power base make. A real Conservative play would be to demand a review of those bullshit questions.
Raise a red flag like - end withholding or make health care a personal deduction and lets see how the CoC handles it.
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:39 PM (TETYm)
Posted by: The Country's Patience at July 21, 2014 08:40 PM (jucos)
http://tinyurl.com/mw46rkr
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:40 PM (PEIly)
And Google, and Big Hollywood, and Facebook too? Who would have thought?
And lets not forget all of Big Green! Boy oh boy, has Al Gore and all of his cronies cashed in on the government teat.
Posted by: Jack at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM (53CCM)
Everything about LIbEraliSm sounds good...
....then comes flight test.
*prang*
They never seem to ring it out and push the envelope in college. Huh......
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM (6S1sD)
Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-434 days
left until climate chaos) at July 21, 2014 07:53 PM (HY/zQ)
Shiny, stompy boots
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM (TETYm)
Posted by: Gay Fascist at July 21, 2014 08:43 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 08:37 PM (NKlr4)
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Common Core in and of itself isn't a problem. In fact, there are some ways it could be very good, since in many ways it gives teachers freer rein to do what needs to be done.
The problem is that most teachers are not that good. Worse, many are activist-minded cogs in the machine.
So what CC is doing is essentially freeing up the people who are in the system already to further disseminate their propaganda and blend it in with teaching materials.
This doesn't HAVE to happen; very little in CC that I've seen mandates this. But that's what will happen--Personnel is policy. Just like the IRS, the schools have already weaponized themselves; they don't need CC to do that. All it does is give them cover to implement.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 08:44 PM (Y5I9o)
In my defense a used Chevy Aveo was all I could afford at the time. I looked.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 08:44 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM
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Indeed. Smartly designed and well-pressed uniforms are really a must, amiright?
Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:45 PM (XtIgv)
Posted by: Donna and V. at July 21, 2014 08:45 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: S. Spielberg at July 21, 2014 08:46 PM (GW/jL)
AMC Pacer.
WAGON!!!!!
My pills, my pills...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:46 PM (PEIly)
Ok
Let's talk about the academic media complex. That's what drives common core. Forcing people to buy your product, nd your ideology
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (zOTsN)
http://tinyurl.com/mw46rkr
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 08:40 PM
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Why steal new panties?
Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (XtIgv)
Posted by: Illegal Alien at July 21, 2014 08:38 PM (rCS6C)
Uh huh huh, huhuhuhuhuh.
Hard.
Huh huh huhuhuhuhuh.
Heeheeheeheeheehee.
Posted by: Beavis and Butt-Head at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Hrothgar
At some point in the future, when we are herded by wise, eternal robots. The fourth law of robotics will be to give some love to guy who rubs the robots' feet and Asimov's decedents.
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (TETYm)
Posted by: Dave S. at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (UvR6d)
Just the everyday ordinary shitweasellery and trough-lining of the Beltway, then. Nothing to see here, move along.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2014 08:49 PM (noWW6)
Akin's district you say? I really need to throw a Missouri Moron Meetup.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 08:50 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM (XtIgv)
The mansion staff trade off every 60 minutes until Delicious!
Posted by: Gay Fascist at July 21, 2014 08:51 PM (PEIly)
You may be aware of this, but Eisenhower warned about both of these in his famous farewell address. But it's pretty rare to hear this quote from that speech:
"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 21, 2014 08:51 PM (J0IP0)
Akin's district you say? I really need to throw a Missouri Moron Meetup.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 08:50 PM (HDwDg)
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I joined the Yahoo group a few weeks back just in case one gets lined up.
Posted by: Dave S. at July 21, 2014 08:52 PM (UvR6d)
Here is an example of how that perspective distortion effects people. Twenty some years ago I was a bouncer at the topless bar where Anna Nicole Smith danced before she became famous. One of the waitresses decided to become a dancer and the other bouncers and I discussed her decision - we thought she was OK looking - but nothing special. A few days later after Judo practice we were in a mall in Houston having lunch and looking at the girls in the mall. There were perhaps 2000 people total in the main concourse of the mall having lunch. Suddenly the room quieted noticeably and every male head turned to look at this stunning beauty who had just walked in. I nudged my friend who had his back to the scene and said "Check her out." He said "Wow she is really fine." As she got closer we realized it was the waitress we had been discussing at the bar. When Anna Nicole Smith at her young best looks normal to you - you have lost perspective.
Posted by: An Observation at July 21, 2014 08:53 PM (ylhEn)
Posted by: Liberace at July 21, 2014 08:54 PM (PEIly)
So those of us without TV cannot participate in the progression of beauty and perfection towards God.
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:55 PM (TETYm)
Posted by: Try getting 87 octane from oil sands at July 21, 2014 08:56 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:56 PM (TETYm)
It's also important to understand that presentation in movies and media is a controlled, and massaged, environment. Professional hair, makeup, trainers, wardrobe, lighting, and editing can make less-remarkable people standouts.
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 08:57 PM (MMC8r)
How did I miss that?
Fucking Lie-Bot.
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 08:57 PM (fsLdt)
The sooner the GOP wises up, the better.
In other news, the sooner we get footage of Sasquatch tittyfucking Nessie...
Posted by: CAC at July 21, 2014 08:57 PM (5fVHU)
So those of us without TV cannot participate in the progression of beauty and perfection towards God.
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:55 PM (TETYm)
--That probably goes double for the Interwebz.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 08:58 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:47 PM
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Word. Gotta love a lady with a full hamper.
Posted by: ...what're you lookin' at? at July 21, 2014 08:58 PM (hvewj)
Big business is on our side? Really?
Toss aside the crony capitalism aspect of it. I didn't the political donation breakdown of large corporations has been favorable to Republicans in decades.
Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:01 PM (V641o)
So those of us without TV cannot participate in the progression of beauty and perfection towards God.
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:55 PM (TETYm)
--That probably goes double for the Interwebz.
Posted by: logprof
I'm pretty sure Aquinas would hold that the internet was taking humanity in reverse.
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:01 PM (TETYm)
Posted by: tlc, real airline pendant at July 21, 2014 09:02 PM (iViyu)
Posted by: Baraka at July 21, 2014 09:02 PM (GW/jL)
I don't do the group much. Problems with my yahoo account.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:03 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at July 21, 2014 09:03 PM (eAJwE)
Big business is on our side? Really?
Toss aside the crony capitalism aspect of it. I didn't the political donation breakdown of large corporations has been favorable to Republicans in decades.
Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:01 PM (V641o)
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Most people think this due to half-recalled High School propaganda about the GOP in the 1920's leading to the crash. Think about it: The Dems are all Jimmy Stewart, and the GOP is Mr. Potter. That's the script most people have, and it's a hard narrative to break.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 09:04 PM (Y5I9o)
Recently sat on a plane from Dallas to DC. My seatmate was Sean Lee of the Cowboys. He was stunning.
Or have I botched the analogy?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 21, 2014 09:04 PM (9y18Y)
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:05 PM (JdEZJ)
Or have I botched the analogy?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 21, 2014 09:04 PM (9y18Y)
--Well, if it was the latter half of last season he was useless to his team.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:06 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron
I'm long on copper tubing.
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:06 PM (TETYm)
the GOP in the 1920's leading to the crash. Think about it: The Dems
are all Jimmy Stewart, and the GOP is Mr. Potter. That's the script
most people have, and it's a hard narrative to break.
Yeah, I know that's the standard narrative from the 1950s. I wouldn't have expected it from the Wall Street Journal, though...at least without a caveat. People who read that editorial are political junkies and are perfectly aware the donations from very many (and, I think, most) large corporations lean Dem.
Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:07 PM (V641o)
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:07 PM (HDwDg)
Norman mailer was short smelly and pearled as though he loved in a tree or middle earth somewhere
Brad Pitt died his hair, needs to bath and has acne scars
Kelly Rippa is flat as a board, has a massive head, and really needs a sammich
Most of the people you see on TV don't even really look like you think they do
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:08 PM (zOTsN)
I don't do the group much. Problems with my yahoo account.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:03 PM (HDwDg)
****
You too, huh. I was getting emails until a couple of weeks ago, when volume apparently went through the roof and they were seen as spam.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 21, 2014 09:08 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: RWC at July 21, 2014 09:09 PM (QUZnq)
Get over it guys. Just roll with it. You can smear Obama as one with impunity.
Posted by: HoboJerk at July 21, 2014 09:09 PM (GSl5X)
Posted by: holygoat at July 21, 2014 09:10 PM (9FUuj)
Posted by: HoboJerk at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (GSl5X)
Can you imagine the tidal wave of innovation and productivity that would be released if business taxes were eliminated?
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (8MjqI)
And pushing the priorities of his firm's paying clients.
He says:
"Big Business wants immigration reform and higher academic standards"
On his firm's client list: "Immigration Voice" and "Strong American Schools".
Immigration Voice == H-1B visa mill
Strong American Schools == backed by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, proponents of Common Core
By the way, one of the founding partners of this firm, Ed Gillespie, is standing as the GOP candidate for Senate in Virginia against Warner.
Senators become lobbyists, lobbyists become Senators, the shitweasel revolving door of the Beltway never ceases to rotate.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (noWW6)
Let me also argue that disputes like that are you get into when you mix politics into other areas. Sarah Silverman wouldn't hesitate to make fun of the right. I can understand people not liking her. She's also starting to age.
Arguing that she isn't hot, though, puts you on the wavelength as liberals who try to argue that Dennis Miller was never funny or Charleton Heston wasn't that big of an actor. It's just not believable.
Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (V641o)
Posted by: effit at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (knfPD)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:12 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at July 21, 2014 09:13 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:13 PM (GW/jL)
She has to balance the yin of Megyn wearing pants yang.
Posted by: RWC at July 21, 2014 09:13 PM (OYOmf)
Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.
The marketing.
Posted by: Phinn at July 21, 2014 09:14 PM (i5GO4)
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:14 PM (TETYm)
She just isn't.
Your definition of hot needs to be recalibrated.
My standards aren't all that high.
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:14 PM (fsLdt)
In other words, 'crony capitalism' is corruption in government.
Honest government is where all laws are administered equally without special exemptions for special friends of government. Where all laws apply equally to everyone even government officials. Where paying bribes to government officials for special favors gets both the bribe payer and the bribe taker a long prison sentence.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 07:52 PM (NKlr4)
Actually the first part is the spoils system.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 21, 2014 09:15 PM (oFCZn)
Arguing that she isn't hot, though, puts you on the wavelength as liberals who try to argue that Dennis Miller was never funny or Charleton Heston wasn't that big of an actor. It's just not believable.
Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (V641o)
--Agreed.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:15 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 21, 2014 08:32 PM (1UzRc)
Easy. Follow the money. The big business folks pushing this shit are all heavily invested in developing all the new technology they want to use with it. Computer programs designed to test the kids on their skills daily and provide immediate feedback, monitoring equipment that measures student interest in a lesson based on body language, tracking students from one place to another, etc and so on. That fucked Bill Gates has funded all the development and promotion of the CC shit and he's invested in all the curriculum and tech on the other end. It's basically big business designing the education system in such a ways as to provide themselves constant demand for their products no services.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at July 21, 2014 09:15 PM (qFpRI)
I had a yahoo account back in the day for a listserv. It's how I got my Gmail account back when you needed an invite.
So my Gmail became my yahoo backup, linking my Yahoo id to both.
Anyway, spam started appearing in folders that were for auto sorting the listserv stuff, which should have been impossible, I suspect yahoo was in on ot, especially when my account spammed my friends with no log on
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:16 PM (HDwDg)
Weasel Zippers @weaselzippers 17m
La Raza President: "Un-American" Anti-Illegal Immigration Protesters "Cloaked Their Hatred In Patriotism" http://shar.es/NVhrr
Posted by: Costanza Defense at July 21, 2014 09:16 PM (ZPrif)
Fanatical voting block, just a guess. Volunteer labor.
Did I win?
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:16 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at July 21, 2014 09:17 PM (ZPrif)
Nice catch.
And we all know who pays for the grease.
Posted by: DaveA at July 21, 2014 09:18 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 21, 2014 09:18 PM (dULJN)
Posted by: Elaine Boozler at July 21, 2014 09:19 PM (GW/jL)
http://tinyurl.com/msosqfr
and saying "nope, not hot" is like saying the Sun rises in the West in an astronomy class where you're still trying to argue the Sun actually circles around the Earth.
Just because a chick is not blond does not mean she isn't hot.
Posted by: AD at July 21, 2014 09:19 PM (V641o)
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (NLEgK)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (MMC8r)
Yep. And Microsoft are out there telling K-12 technology officials up and down the country that in order to be "Common Core ready", they all need to implement Windows 8 immediately.
Note that, as usual, the bullshit is impeccably bipartisan. The Bush family are all in for Common Core, and a ton of the groundwork for CC was laid by George Dubya.
The fact that Neil Bush owns a digital courseware company that provides Common Core to schools? Left discreetly unmentioned at all times. You and I, as members of the serf class, are not expected to notice or understand the doings of Our Betters.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 21, 2014 09:21 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (NLEgK)
___________
Just slightly less hard than understanding that anti-ILLEGAL immigration is different than anti-Iimmigration.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 09:21 PM (0LHZx)
She was at the height of "hot" at that time, or so we were told.
I was disappointed, she was a tall, average looking, wearing too much make-up.
Girls her age, from the neighborhood totally outclassed her.
I guess hype works.
Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 09:21 PM (v9TmF)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at July 21, 2014 09:21 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:23 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (NLEgK)
Strike that first 'pro-business' with pro 'free market' and I'd agree with you.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:23 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:24 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: southdakotaboy at July 21, 2014 09:24 PM (yh4lQ)
Lovely.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 09:24 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:25 PM (JdEZJ)
Silverman is that thin as a rail body type. Many people think that's attractive. It's not my preference, is that ok?
I mean i'd hit it, screen door, hurricane all that.
But if we're fantasizing, i'd Ike someone with curves.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 21, 2014 09:26 PM (HDwDg)
Honestly.....I'd give her a 7.
Which isn't "hot". Plus the ugly inside lowers the score even more.
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:26 PM (fsLdt)
-Luis Guittierez
Awful lot of talk about 'punishing' folks since the fuckstick came into power.
Posted by: RWC at July 21, 2014 09:27 PM (OYOmf)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at July 21, 2014 09:27 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Epobirs at July 21, 2014 09:20 PM (NLEgK)
Strike that first 'pro-business' with pro 'free market' and I'd agree with you.
How hard is it to be against any govt subsidies of business what so ever? How about treat everybody the same, with no carve outs for crony capitalism.
Posted by: Jack at July 21, 2014 09:28 PM (53CCM)
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 21, 2014 09:30 PM (dULJN)
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:31 PM (GW/jL)
BTW, it's unAmerican to oppose Diversity and Affirmative Action.
It's also unAmerican to oppose Gay Marriage.
It's also unAmerican to oppose Women's Reproductive Health.
It's also unAmerican to oppose economic justice.
It's a new America. And there's a new group of unAmericans .. you.
Fundamental Transformation, baby!
Posted by: Socialist Party of America at July 21, 2014 09:31 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:31 PM (Mogjf)
thing...I was kind of disappointed. She was just a regular looking
woman. But had I not known who she was, I would have just though, kinda
hot looking tall chick.
Remember Claudia Christian from Babylon 5?
Not terribly remarkable when you'd see her in person, but when someone took a picture, it was really strange. Everyone around her would look normal (aka, bad). Her face, however, would light up and she'd be perfect.
Photogenic bones structure, camera awareness, and proper makeup, I guess.
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Arthur Cognomen, too extreme for Colorado at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (dkesm)
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 21, 2014 09:30 PM (dULJN)
Perv.
I keed =)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (fsLdt)
Did I win?
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus
I was going for purpose and values, but I'd accept fanatics.
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (TETYm)
"My secret lust for right-wing women"
http://tinyurl.com/pszykxe
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:33 PM (HVff2)
Ya, I'm with the guy...wait, let me look. . .
bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 09:11 PM (8MjqI)
Ya, him, what he said.
Corporations, business doesn't pay taxes, they collect them.
The disruption to the economy would be chaos until it all shook out.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:33 PM (NKlr4)
It wouldn't be the first time someone on the WSJ backed something stupid. Most of them are also gung-ho on amnesty.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (QhD3Y)
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 21, 2014 09:30 PM (dULJN)
Perv.
I keed =)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:32 PM (fsLdt)
Easy, bud.
Posted by: A. Agassi at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (GW/jL)
Honestly.....I'd give her a 7.
Which isn't "hot". Plus the ugly inside lowers the score even more.
-
How thick are the lenses in my beer goggles?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (Mogjf)
http://tinyurl.com/msosqfr
Sorry, but to me a woman has to be pretty to be "hot." Probably because my mother was pretty.
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (8MjqI)
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 09:35 PM (TETYm)
Posted by: pointsnfigures at July 21, 2014 09:35 PM (LnE5F)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at July 21, 2014 09:34 PM (QhD3Y)
yeah, i'm totally done with the wsj. shitweasels, every last one of 'em. dailymailonline is the only thing i trust anymore.
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (8lmkt)
Over the grunting?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:33 PM (HVff2)
--I have never watched an entire tennis match in my life, and not a single set of hers. But in terms of looking good for the camera, she's a babe to me.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (GW/jL)
That is a factor. Worth up to 5 points depending on thickness.
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:37 PM (JdEZJ)
Hot chicks are a dime a dozen. No matter who the flavor of the month is, Kate Upton, Christina Hendricks, Jessica Alba, just pick one, doesn't matter. Go into any high end bar in Miami, LA, NYC, DC or a dozen other big cities and I can guarantee you can find 5 hotter women.
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 09:37 PM (5hsHQ)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:38 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (8lmkt)
--Ever since they put Taranto behind a paywall a few weeks ago, I've had no cause to visit that site.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:38 PM (GW/jL)
Between the legs, arms or boobehs she would crush you to death my friend, lol
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)
Hell, Fort Collins has more hot women per square mile than most places I've lived.
Posted by: Arthur Cognomen, too extreme for Colorado at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (dkesm)
Between the legs, arms or boobehs she would crush you to death my friend, lol
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)
--The anger is part f the fun, right?
Hello, Katerina Witt!
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (QKbPo)
Gina. Carano.
Be right back. Something just popped up.
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 09:41 PM (5hsHQ)
Posted by: Jean at July 21, 2014 08:41 PM
------------------
Indeed. Smartly designed and well-pressed uniforms are really a must, amiright?
Posted by: Nazi Clothier at July 21, 2014 08:45 PM
"
And Jodhpurs. Must have.
Posted by: HAL at July 21, 2014 09:41 PM (s7QM/)
Hell, Fort Collins has more hot women per square mile than most places I've lived.
Posted by: Arthur Cognomen, too extreme for Colorado at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (dkesm)
--FSU in the '90s. Damn, so many tanned and taut asses wearing short-shorts with "FSU" on the bum jogging and walking around.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:42 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 09:37 PM (5hsHQ)
well, I know you're being modest, DC, but I'm sure they seek you out. like moths to a flame, eh?
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:42 PM (8lmkt)
by beer nuts.
No one is ugly at closing time, to my memory's regret. Lotta good times, tho.
Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 09:42 PM (v9TmF)
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:36 PM (GW/jL)
you wanna google some bikini pics before you go all in on that. and, if it still works for you, i ain't judgin'
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:43 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:43 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 09:44 PM (8MjqI)
Marilyn Monroe said the same thing, she could be Norma Jean, or Marilyn, turn it on or off.
If one were ever to believe in extra sensory perception (PSI) that would be an example I'd believe, or another one is the ability of a confidence man to get inside your head, or a really good salesman. Even criminals sometimes have the power to beguile the innocent. Politicians do it all the time.
Is it a real psychic ability? Damnfino!
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:44 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:44 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 09:45 PM (MMC8r)
Between the legs, arms or boobehs she would crush you to death my friend, lol
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:39 PM (HVff2)
--The anger is part f the fun, right?
Hello, Katerina Witt!
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:40 PM (GW/jL)
Oh yeah
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:45 PM (HVff2)
The character she played was a tart. In real life, she's fairly shy and quiet. Married to one guy for years, two kids, and not outspoken at all.
I always thought the girl was pretty and still do. However, she was wasn't considered anything special in high school (as evidenced by the fact she hung out with me and people like me).
I still find it amusing to see her described as a super-hot wild women by people who project her TV personality on her real personality.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (oWhIO)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (jucos)
Posted by: --- at July 21, 2014 09:45 PM (MMC8r)
--Heh, my dad and Jonah Goldberg pretty much hit on that independently: why in the Ocean's 11 movies did the music stop an the action cut to slow-mo when Julia's character descended a staircase?
Not that hot, Fat Tire Lips
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:48 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:49 PM (zOTsN)
Or like James Garner as Maverick or Rockford.
Or Gene Hackman.
How much of the fictional character is the writer, the director, and the actor? We love the fictional character without ever knowing the actor.
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 09:49 PM (NKlr4)
Hiya, Peaches! And yes, all the wimmenz love me. More so since Cougar locked me up for good. Odd, that.
Note to single morons: go buy a cheap gold or silver band at Target. Then go to the nearest bar. Then just relax and let the wimmenz do what they do.
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 09:50 PM (5hsHQ)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:50 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:50 PM (HVff2)
No guys ever talk about Julia Roberts.
She was sexy in that Erin Brockovitch thing tho...
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:51 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:47 PM (8lmkt)
Hell yeah I'd vote for him & send him some money
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:52 PM (HVff2)
The more to blow ya logprof
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 21, 2014 09:50 PM (HVff2)
--I'd prefer a natural set of DSL like Laurie Dhue's.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 09:52 PM (GW/jL)
Now that's HOT!
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 09:53 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:53 PM (zOTsN)
-
Fascism: The elite dress in uniforms.
Crony capitalism: The elite dress in suits that look like uniforms.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 21, 2014 09:53 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:53 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:43 PM (zOTsN)
****
And there ya have it, for 90 percent of men out there. Great comment.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:51 PM (fsLdt)
It was the push up bra and low cut tops....certainly not her face.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (GrtrJ)
Just watched AZ Gubernatorial GOP Debate.
Gabe Malor is gonna lose his mind, cuz I liked Sndrew Thomas the best and he may do well! He is the former embattled Atty who with Sherif Joe traded accusations investigations lawsuits & fines vs Maricopa Cohnty Board of Supervisors and drove Gabe nuts then
But he is far and away best on immigration issue/ all aspects
He cited the CIS study showing all the job creation has find to legal & illegal immigrants
He is a loose cannon but IMO he is pointed in the right direction He recognizes AZ is make or break situation if border not secured and isnt afraid of a fight with the media He is virulently anti CommonCore.
Doug Ducey is my 2nd choice, current State Trez, talks tough on border but unlike Thimas doesn't want a fence Agsinst CommonCore promises no new taxes
Scott Smith former mayor of Mesa is a total Bush Rove Republican. He was proud to cite his work with head of EPA in DC to help alleviate a regulation. He wants to make deals He fully supports common core under its new name but its common core and he is a lets be sensible we can't do this of that or anything really on illegal aliens He kept talking about the children He also supported the increased sales tax
Christine Jones is a GoDaddy exec. with lots of managed talking points but is IMO a deal maker like Brewer do nothing would change there
Our current Sec State is running as well can't recall his name but he seems to be the type who would let himself get rolled in the deal making and was a weaker seeming version
of Ducey
A former CA GOP Congressman is an also ran
Posted by: ginaswo at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (b2DNm)
Fascism: mass produced stompy boots
Crony capitalism: hand made Italian tassle loafers
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (8lmkt)
Yeah, I get why Gates and various others are pushing it. I don't get why this guy, who seems to be a generic enabler for rent-seeking, is so crazy for it.
Cui bono? Not many people, really.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (GrtrJ)
ACTING!!!
Posted by: Teh Oscar Voters at July 21, 2014 09:55 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 09:56 PM (0AKks)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:54 PM (GrtrJ)
Yeah.....I knew it was the cleavage.
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 09:56 PM (0AKks)
Heh. Saw those guys in concert here in Texas about 2006-2007. Still put on a hell of a show.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (GrtrJ)
lip reduction , lip enhancement
ass reduction , ass enhancement
whoever created Mrs. Potatohead was a visionary.
Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (v9TmF)
Cool.
I just figured it fit with the drift the thread had taken.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 09:59 PM (0AKks)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:01 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:02 PM (1Mxs7)
lip reduction , lip enhancement
ass reduction , ass enhancement
whoever created Mrs. Potatohead was a visionary.
Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 09:57 PM (v9TmF)
--Have you seen the cover of the latest Jennifer Lopez album? Well, I've only seen ads for it, which are splashed around the entrances to the local HMV stores. They're, uh, very distracting, airbrushing or no. What is pathetic, though, is that the woman has to be 46 or 47 or thereabouts an still tarting up for a night on the town. She's pretty naturally beautiful, but after multiple marriages has no offspring to pass along her genes an will probably die alone encased in botox and silicone.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 10:02 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 10:04 PM (zOTsN)
she's 44, has 2 children (with Skeletor), doesn't drink and, as far as I can tell, does everything right. ????
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:04 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:02 PM (1Mxs7)
Right?
I noticed that too.
The economy has been upgraded from good to excellent comrades.
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:05 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 10:05 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:05 PM (JdEZJ)
They'd get more appointments to the Fed.
What do I win?
Posted by: TexasDan at July 21, 2014 10:07 PM (pZOPx)
Bill Clinton has a mistress the secret service call "the energizer" as in battery operated bunny
I know you're shocked
Posted by: Thunderb at July 21, 2014 10:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:08 PM (fsLdt)
It's an investment... we're investing BILLIONS and getting back MILLIONS and we'd be lunatics to end this policy.
And he's right... so long as a Billion is less than a Million. If that isn't true, this entire argument seems absurd.
Posted by: gekkobear at July 21, 2014 10:08 PM (k3qzM)
she's 44, has 2 children (with Skeletor), doesn't drink and, as far as I can tell, does everything right. ????
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:04 PM (8lmkt)
--Heh, all those hours in checkout lines and I was never clued in that she had offspring?
Well, I for one am glad she became a gene donor.
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 10:08 PM (GW/jL)
Our entire county runs on cash under the table.
Want a lawn mowed? cash.
Want a house built? cash.
F 'em.
Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:09 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: TexasDan
Well TexasDan, you win a year's supply of organic, sustainable gluten-free algae cakes and an extra month of funemployment. Prizes courtesy of the US Camber of Crony Capitalism and the federal Ministry of Plenty.
Posted by: Wink Blinkman at July 21, 2014 10:10 PM (dUGHS)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 21, 2014 10:10 PM (cZmyL)
Posted by: Cyrus at July 21, 2014 10:12 PM (GW/jL)
So, the things I was supposed to remind my husband to get at Walmart this morning, I never remembered. Until two minutes ago, when he remembered and told me what they were.
And then he tested me. He asked me who the lead singer, keyboardist and bassist for Duran Duran were. I was right on all three.
Why, oh why can't that useless information about 80's music that is taking up space in my head be replaced by more useful crap?
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:13 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Wink Blinkman at July 21, 2014 10:10 PM (dUGHS)
I think this is the part where I gratefully accept my prize before it gets even worse.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (pZOPx)
Posted by: Wink Blinkman at July 21, 2014 10:10 PM (dUGHS)
I think this is the part where I gratefully accept my prize before it gets even worse.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (pZOPx)
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (5hsHQ)
===================================
I fixed it. And I agree- it woukd be great. Drive out those progs, and bring Democrats back from the brink, even while returning GOP economic policy to Main Street.
Posted by: MTF at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (6um35)
Posted by: Erowmero at July 21, 2014 10:15 PM (go5uR)
O_0
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:15 PM (fsLdt)
Anyhoo....., my favorite trick is making a list, then leaving the list on the kitchen counter.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:15 PM (1Mxs7)
The horde lies in wait, watching the countdown clock ticking off the seconds. Refresh
Like supreme predators concealed in the underbrush near a dwindling water hole, refresh.
Knowing that this time they're gonna be first.
Refresh
The hamsters labor to spin the wheel..Refresh
ad revenue increments incrementally with every refresh
soon
refresh
soon
refresh
minutes away
refresh
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:16 PM (NKlr4)
If not it should be.
Whoreywood should be sued for false advertising.
They should, also, set aside funds to buy their "stars" personality.
asshole enhancement
Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 10:16 PM (v9TmF)
302 Julia Roberts -- Darby Shaw "Pelican Brief"
Simpering victim from start to finish.
"The pelican is the hero of the story." Baaaaarrrrrf!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at July 21, 2014 10:16 PM (Pk0vQ)
First!
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:05 PM (JdEZJ)
Now that's funny, right there.
Posted by: Jack at July 21, 2014 10:17 PM (53CCM)
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:17 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:17 PM (3HAAY)
Yeah, we text shopping lists, but we were discussing in bed last night before we went to sleep and I was too lazy to get up and text him. My bad.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:17 PM (GrtrJ)
Someone smart here please tell me the diff between crony capitalism and fascism.
(Laying aside the smart part, and with apologies for the double post above)
Fascism requires an authoritative leader. Crony Capitalism, on the other hand, is so easy a community organizer can do it.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 21, 2014 10:18 PM (pZOPx)
If not it should be.
It should be and is.
I always ask for plasticized paper in the supermarket.
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:18 PM (fsLdt)
http://tinyurl.com/lj6k5el
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:18 PM (1Mxs7)
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:14 PM (5hsHQ)
no, because it's not, like, an hour ago. ont is late, as usual these days. it's like they want to give the cold shoulder to those of us suffering behind enemy lines on the left coast.
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:18 PM (8lmkt)
http://youtu.be/3Qg3rQfeZv4
Posted by: The Streets at July 21, 2014 10:19 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:21 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:21 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: EC at July 21, 2014 10:21 PM (0WxOd)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:21 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:22 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:22 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 10:22 PM (v9TmF)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:23 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:24 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: mugiwara at July 21, 2014 10:24 PM (3a584)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:24 PM (fsLdt)
Not a thing, just an observation.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (3HAAY)
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (8MjqI)
Posted by: seamrog at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (v9TmF)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:25 PM (3HAAY)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:26 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: Hektor at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (8lmkt)
*calculates range, windage on eleven *
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (1Mxs7)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (3HAAY)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 10:27 PM (0AKks)
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 21, 2014 10:28 PM (v3BJ5)
Posted by: matthewjohn at July 21, 2014 10:28 PM (r4W5l)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (fsLdt)
labor work? How could the Republicans survive as a purely
populist/libertarian political party?
Posted by: matthewjohn at July 21, 2014 10:28 PM (r4W5l)
Rick Perry says, I don't fuckin' think so.
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: matthewjohn at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (r4W5l)
He's the one that voluntarily and of his own free will performs fellatio on total strangers, no?
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:30 PM (5hsHQ)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (PEIly)
So? What's your fuckin' problem?
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:30 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (PEIly)
Multi-party fascism. Controlling the strings of government/industrial power. The only concern among the is "who" is calling the shots.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (3HAAY)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (0AKks)
He's the one that voluntarily and of his own free will performs fellatio on total strangers, no?
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:30 PM (5hsHQ)
I think you mean that Hector, who is a sucker of cock by choice, sucks cock by choice.
Posted by: T. Nuttall at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (GW/jL)
labor work?
I'm thinking the NEW Democrat party would be mostly hard line Marxist Leninists, and the realigned GOP would be 'moderate' democrats, and the rest of us would be SOL
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:24 PM (fsLdt)
never fake n00d.
you owe the horde 50. Push mfer!
Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:32 PM (x3YFz)
hard line Marxist Leninists, and the realigned GOP would be 'moderate'
democrats, and the rest of us would be SOL
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (NKlr4)
so, no changes?
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:32 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (PEIly)
In other words, Monday.
Posted by: The Great Big Fires at July 21, 2014 10:33 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with dilated pupils at July 21, 2014 10:33 PM (1Mxs7)
Maybe ... maybe not. I work around quite a few Union Tradesmen - being an Engineer and all. It's crazy, after a couple beers, how many of them absolutely HATE the current Democratic Party - but don't feel they have anywhere else to go.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 21, 2014 10:33 PM (v3BJ5)
hard line Marxist Leninists, and the realigned GOP would be 'moderate'
democrats, and the rest of us would be SOL
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:31 PM (NKlr4)
so, no changes?
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:32 PM (8lmkt)
Welcome to us!
Posted by: Europe at July 21, 2014 10:33 PM (GW/jL)
Rut-roh. Feisty peaches. We're at defcon 3, effective immediately. Take all necessary measures to protect yourselves.
For me, that involves hiding behind something heavy and covering my groin.
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (5hsHQ)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:29 PM (PEIly)
So? What's your fuckin' problem?
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:30 PM (8lmkt)
shoot, I'm in love.
Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (x3YFz)
So, is HE sideways when he takes the flaming pineapple,or is the PINEAPPLE sideways when he gets it up his poop sqweeker?
Asking for a friend...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (PEIly)
You forgot about the rusty barbed wire. Always, rusty barbed wire.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (3HAAY)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:34 PM (fsLdt)
bullshit.
I didn't see it.
Do it again.
Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (3HAAY)
Concertina. Saw 'em open for the Honey Badgers back in the 80s. I don't actually remember it, but I got the ticket stubs.
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:36 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 10:36 PM (8MjqI)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:35 PM (GrtrJ)
/hat tip and small bow to DG
Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:36 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (fsLdt)
Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our
industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution
during recent decades.
In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more
formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is
conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed
by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing
fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the
fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a
revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs
involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for
intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds
of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal
employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we
should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that
public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological
elite.
--same President, same speech, very next line. How about that Ike.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: The Great Fries at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (GW/jL)
The pineapple is sideways.
You forgot about the rusty barbed wire. Always, rusty barbed wire.
You are absolutely correct. I amend.
Hector can get fucked sideways with a flaming pineapple wrapped in rusty barbed wire, followed by an isopropyl alcohol enema.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (3HAAY)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (0AKks)
Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:38 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:39 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:39 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (v3BJ5)
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (NKlr4)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:38 PM (x3YFz)
we got your 6, buddy. and, hey, anyone here remember when the ONT got posted at 7 PDT sharp. before all the loose shit came about?
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:41 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (PEIly)
*******
Ehhh, been there and done that. This attracts skanks that wanna play while on the road. No thank you.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 21, 2014 10:41 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Joe Cynicus Maximus at July 21, 2014 10:40 PM (NKlr4)
probably out walking his cat
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (PEIly)
No, time to wind it up: http://youtu.be/7J0QdXBY0wo
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (0AKks)
Ok. I'm going to walk the cat, and I damn sure expect the ONT to be up when I get back.
"Honest, miss, I was just walking my cat. I like to let him explore a little. I really don't know why he jumped up on your window sill. But I had to get him own. Sorry, it took a little longer than I expected."
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (8MjqI)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (3HAAY)
Posted by: J. Conrad at July 21, 2014 10:43 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (3HAAY)
why would anyone wait that long?
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:44 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:44 PM (PEIly)
Posted by: logprof at July 21, 2014 10:44 PM (GW/jL)
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2014 10:45 PM (JdEZJ)
50 for the fake n00d
50 for faking the 50
and 50 more for the 50 I did for him.
PUSH!
Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 10:45 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:46 PM (PEIly)
Dr. Helen Smith over at jpmedia.com weighs in.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 21, 2014 10:46 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:47 PM (3HAAY)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at July 21, 2014 10:47 PM (jtgkZ)
Posted by: toby928(C) at July 21, 2014 10:47 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Slapweasel at July 21, 2014 10:48 PM (z3Qlv)
Posted by: tsj017 at July 21, 2014 10:48 PM (EXsvS)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:37 PM (PEIly)
*******
Ehhh, been there and done that. This attracts skanks that wanna play while on the road. No thank you.
All depends on what you're looking for. If you want a wife, that play won't work. If you just need to get your pencil wet, it just might.
Just remember: don't be a dummy, come on her tummy
Posted by: DC in Airports and Hotels at July 21, 2014 10:48 PM (5hsHQ)
Posted by: Dana Barrett at July 21, 2014 10:49 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: eleven at July 21, 2014 10:49 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2014 10:49 PM (3HAAY)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at July 21, 2014 10:42 PM (PEIly)
*****
Married chick, somewhere between 35 and 50, who is just looking at a one nighter away from hubby. Scores anywhere from a 4 to a 7 on the hotness scale, but quals as skank because married.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 21, 2014 10:52 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Peaches at July 21, 2014 10:04 PM (8lmkt)
She hasn't done me yet.
I think the problem a lot of people have with her is that she is a publicity whore.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 21, 2014 10:55 PM (+Fae7)
at this point: has this gone so far beyond mockable that it's not funny?
I mean the first few times you see Erkel look tough, you snicker, but after the 1,500th take, your brow starts to furrow.
I don't know 1 single American male that would be "intimidated" by Barack Obama.
Posted by: TangoNine at July 21, 2014 11:00 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at July 21, 2014 11:05 PM (IKYcF)
Posted by: Mistress Overdone at July 22, 2014 01:50 AM (2/oBD)
Posted by: Patrick Strei at July 22, 2014 06:10 AM (iVZfD)
Posted by: Vic at July 22, 2014 06:44 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: burt at July 22, 2014 09:07 AM (yp2Xd)
Mike Castle called to say he's shocked, just shocked.
Posted by: Born Free at July 22, 2014 12:05 PM (xL8Hf)
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