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Whistle Blower Allegation: VA Tampered With Records To Hide Deaths Due To Wait Times
To their credit, CNN has owned this story and they've broken more news on it...according to an employee the VA is still engaging in a cover up and altering records to hide their murderous incompetence (auto-play video but worth a full read)
It was one of [VA employee Pauline] DeWenter's roles to call veterans when appointments became available to schedule them to get a consultation. Sometimes when she made those calls, she'd find that the veteran had died, so she would enter that on their records. But at least seven times since last October, records that showed that veterans died while waiting for care -- records which DeWenter personally handled and had entered in details of veterans' deaths -- were physically altered, or written over, by someone else, DeWenter said in an exclusive interview with CNN. The changes, or re-writes, listed the veterans as living, not deceased, essentially hiding their deaths. The alterations had even occurred in recent weeks, she said, in a deliberate attempt to try to hide just how many veterans died while waiting for care, by trying to pretend dead veterans remain alive.From Gabe's morning post the VA still is in denial about the extent of its problems. Seriously, tear it down. If this was a private hospital system, men and women in windbreakers with initials on the back and badges hanging from their necks would be swarming into offices, removing boxes of files and probably frog marching people out in handcuffs. But hey, it's the government so professional courtesy and wait for more IG reports. Added: Senate Democrats just don't care about dead veterans.
This image from Sen. Coburn's VA oversight report is absolutely brutal. http://t.co/qAUeimMDdO pic.twitter.com/jAxKBsTUP1
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) June 24, 2014
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)But does not surprise me at all.
Posted by: navybrat at June 24, 2014 10:11 AM (JgC5a)
Posted by: Vic at June 24, 2014 10:11 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther), Ah, F it. at June 24, 2014 10:12 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 24, 2014 10:12 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:12 AM (GQ8sn)
I've got to hand it to you, Vic. You sure know how to bring the funneh.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 24, 2014 10:12 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Vic at June 24, 2014 10:11 AM (T2V/1)
Yes. Those are medical records they are fucking with. Fraud is fraud.
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:13 AM (GQ8sn)
You'll trade 5 terrorists for a deserter (and possible traitor), but you can't be bothered to make sure our wounded warriors receive the care they need.
F*ck That Guy.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther), Ah, F it. at June 24, 2014 10:13 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther), Ah, F it. at June 24, 2014 10:14 AM (PYAXX)
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Posted by: eman at June 24, 2014 10:14 AM (MQEz6)
They were expenses.
Merit increases for reducing expenses.
The VA, Indian schools, management of the reservations, military medicine in general, these are all things that the government continues to screw up.
And now with a malevolent executive at the top, the modus vivendi is to lie and obscure.
It will get worse. I'm surprise that CNN has done this, but pleasantly so.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding the comfy chair at June 24, 2014 10:14 AM (RFeQD)
The alterations had even occurred in recent weeks, she said, in a deliberate attempt to try to hide just how many veterans died while waiting for care, by trying to pretend dead veterans remain alive.
My God.
It only gets worse, the more you know.
Jail time. For life. Even that is too decent for what some of these people have committed.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 24, 2014 10:15 AM (IXrOn)
Government fucking with medical records? Good thing that could never happen with Obamacare.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2014 10:15 AM (g1DWB)
.... but Chelsea gets its gender reassignment therapy.
Something is seriously seriously fucked in this country.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 24, 2014 10:15 AM (nELVU)
I know, I know, like a baby on 1,000 count sheets.
I despair, I despair.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at June 24, 2014 10:15 AM (mf5HN)
The fact that nobody's being frog-marched is all the proof I need that the game is completely rigged.
Posted by: Chupacabras at June 24, 2014 10:16 AM (+hPIb)
Not like anyone with any relationship with the VA hasn't known it was crap for decades. Every veteran I ever knew avoided the VA if they could. The true scandal is that it's been allowed to be so bad for so long...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, expecting to get hit by lightning for this at June 24, 2014 10:16 AM (rt3TY)
There's something wrong with the types of people who run these agencies (wanton sense of entitlement fostered by a complete lack of responsibility maybe?) The only solution is to remove and imprison them, and then destroy the infrastructure that allows this kind of evil to take root.
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 24, 2014 10:16 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 10:16 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at June 24, 2014 10:17 AM (mvenn)
Exactly.
The Federal Government isn't even pretending to be legitimate anymore. Unfortunately, there's no Governor who's quite willing to say that, and private citizens can't really lead the necessary charge.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther), Ah, F it. at June 24, 2014 10:17 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: RWC at June 24, 2014 10:17 AM (fWAjv)
Scum need to be SWATed at 2:30 am.
I am all out of sympathy.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, expecting to get hit by lightning for this at June 24, 2014 10:17 AM (rt3TY)
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:12 AM (GQ8sn)
Only after you kick wedges under the doors and nail the windows shut soVA management dies in the fire.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 24, 2014 10:17 AM (rXcBX)
There, done, let's start breaking it up and fixing it.
Posted by: tsrblke, Professional Medical Ethicist at June 24, 2014 10:18 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2014 10:15 AM (g1DWB)
I work in a place where you can't even have scratch paper and a pen in certain areas.
Back dating? You're fired.
Crossing out stuff without initials and reason? Hit the bricks, pal.
Hiding and forging data? What size speculum do you take?
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:18 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at June 24, 2014 10:18 AM (mvenn)
Correction- your client is the one who cuts the check, which means not the Veterans in the VA, not the American Indians w/ the Bureau of Indian Affairs, and not the patients in ObamaCare.
The client is Congress and the President in all cases.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther), Ah, F it. at June 24, 2014 10:18 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Harry Reid at June 24, 2014 10:19 AM (QupBk)
I know, I know, like a baby on 1,000 count sheets.
I despair, I despair.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting
There's a lot of ruin in a country. We are about to find out just how much.
We have a malevolent executive at the top, and they take their cues from his example.
There have always been people in government like this, but now it is epidemic.
How do they look in the mirror? How do any of us look in the mirror some days.
We let this happen. For years and years, grinding down what was American civilization. The Academy, Democrats, the Media....they are laughing at us.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding the comfy chair at June 24, 2014 10:19 AM (RFeQD)
Hey, did you get your PhD? Last I knew (before the 'proud expectant father' bit) was still PhD(c).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther), Ah, F it. at June 24, 2014 10:20 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 10:16 AM (t3UFN)
****
Is that better than the implants?
Posted by: S. Muldoon at June 24, 2014 10:20 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:20 AM (DrWcr)
It should have been used as an example of why we don't want the gov't anywhere near health care.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2014 10:21 AM (g1DWB)
You cant fix that with speeches and questioning witnesses and hearings and laws.
Complete upheaval and replacement is the only way to rid ourselves of this monster.
Luckily, it will kill itself with its own debt.
Posted by: eman at June 24, 2014 10:21 AM (MQEz6)
----
We heard that if we didnt build those terrorists state of art medical, educational, recreational, and nutritional programs.... we were torturing them.
But.... A decorated Marine sits in a Mexican jail, tied down to a cot, confined to his cell for days on end...... gets a > from Dear Leader.
Fuck that guy indeed.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 24, 2014 10:21 AM (nELVU)
This cannot continue.
Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at June 24, 2014 10:21 AM (E6eh3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 10:16 AM (t3UFN)
****
Is that better than the implants?
Posted by: S. Muldoon at June 24, 2014 10:20 AM (mvenn)
I hear it's less expensive, but not as good for the surrounding teeth.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:21 AM (DrWcr)
What pains me the most is, nothing is going to change.
The VA is has been broken for years, longer than I've been alive. The republicans won't deal with it, and the democrats are too tied to government run healthcare to acknowledge the problem.
At this point a starting point would be to fire 90% of the staff (especially the administrators, it's harder to fire the actual medical staff, and it's not clear they're the problem).
And that might not even fix it. You very much might have to scrap the whole thing and start over.
And since any transition period is (by the nature of transition) going to be tough, no one in DC is going to want to do it.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:21 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: no good deed at June 24, 2014 10:22 AM (v+Cr1)
Something is seriously seriously fucked in this country.
****
This outrage goes down a little easier if you think of it not as "gender reassignment surgery" but as "castration".
Posted by: S. Muldoon at June 24, 2014 10:23 AM (mvenn)
Ms. O'Connor: Not at all, sir.
Elijah Cummings: No, you just keep on trying your best and being all sweet like. You go girl!
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 10:23 AM (BAS5M)
I was exaggerating for the sake of making a point.
Indeed, the point I made was only half accurate anyway.
The libs seem to want to claim that "experts" are an important coinage, but I've been running around for years saying the VA was varying forms of broken (although I never thought it was this bad).
My common retort to idiots who wanted socialized medicine was "have you seen the VA!?"
And I'm roundly considered the department crazy.
Go to conferences: That crazy guy.
The left only believes in the power of credentials if those credentials say the right things.
Past that you'll just be an exiled coot.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:25 AM (HDwDg)
If we are going to keep the VA we are going to have to start limiting who is eligible . I want combat veterans and service related injuries or illnesses to get priority. I appreciate the service of the two year veteran who served stateside but whether the VA should continue to provide lifetime care for conditions unrelated to service at the expense of others has to be addressed. Though its the other third rail .
Posted by: Bob Belcher at June 24, 2014 10:26 AM (LBF29)
I believe I forwarded a possible solution.
And since any transition period is (by the nature of transition) going to be tough, no one in DC is going to want to do it.
I'm not actually sure it would be "tough" for the people who should matter (and who would matter if the BMM would do it's f*cking job).
Kill the VA.
Take it's budget.
Search for Secret Doors.
Wait, no.
Kill the VA.
Take it's budget.
Turn it into an insurance company (better- pay a private insurer to handle it).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther), Ah, F it. at June 24, 2014 10:28 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 24, 2014 10:28 AM (7HjKx)
Posted by: JackStraw
Because they define the terms of the debate in the Media, and control the terms of the debate in the Media. They control the language, the epistemology, and influence how many Americans actually think.
Jeff Goldberg dwells on this routinely at "Protein Wisdom".
I once followed the blog "Tigerhawk" where the proprietor, an alleged "conservative" thought Ezra Klein was a "smart liberal".
Ezra Klein is a childish hack. He's a fucking man child who should be slapped. He's a puppet on the end of strings, like most of the idiotic media hacks that dominate TV and the Left Blogosphere.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding the comfy chair at June 24, 2014 10:29 AM (RFeQD)
And that might not even fix it. You very much might have to scrap the whole thing and start over.
And since any transition period is (by the nature of transition) going to be tough, no one in DC is going to want to do it.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:21 AM (HDwDg)
Didn't the VA fire the medical staff who refused to go along with the cover up?
That's an actual question, I seem to recall there was at least one case of that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at June 24, 2014 10:30 AM (mf5HN)
http://tinyurl.com/pykwjhx
Coburn's claim that more than 1,000 veterans may have died in the decade since 2001 as the result of hospital mismanagement and neglect is based on a story from the Center for Investigative Reporting this past April. The center found that the VA had paid out more than $200 million to settle wrongful death claims by nearly 1,000 families.
Posted by: RWC at June 24, 2014 10:31 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: effit at June 24, 2014 10:31 AM (UeOYb)
...the other door is labelled "Morgue".
Posted by: S. Muldoon at June 24, 2014 10:31 AM (mvenn)
Transitions never go on without a hitch.
Once we get past it, it would most certainly be better for the people who matter (i.e. the vets.) but during the transition (especially with an openly hostile enemy, i.e. the bureaucrats) it'd be a bumpy ride.
The dems would start to care then, they'd find stories of people lost in paperwork mix ups, or the like and air them 24/7.
Remember, for the dem's it's not about the vets, it's about maintaining any illusion that the VA ever had good healthcare (spoiler: it didn't.) so they can push socialized medicine.
As I said before: Bernie Sander's (I-diot) is the last person who should be heading up a committee to investigate the VA. He's incapable of giving up his pipe dream of socialized medicine.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:31 AM (HDwDg)
to start limiting who is eligible . I want combat veterans and service
related injuries or illnesses to get priority. I appreciate the
[]Posted by: Bob Belcher"
No. Why would we? Government is corrupt, inefficient and self serving, always in every single case from now until the end of forever and a week. This is not alterable or negotiable.
There is a need for some government, for things like having a name to put on the money, establishing and protecting borders and a small few other things, ok fine. But what things that is must remain limited, controlled and monitored.
Any breach of this scope will mushroom into massive corruption, greed, graft and criminality. As we are seeing now.
Keep the state out of the healthcare business. Allow vets to be treated by private industry, in the interests of caring for them well.
There is no acceptable sentence that begins with 'If we are going to keep the VA...' other than ' we are going to be screwed.'.
And all that goes for Obamacare as well.
Posted by: Simon White-Thatch Potentloins at June 24, 2014 10:32 AM (NnjE8)
It's almost as if they're ashamed at their indifference or something.
Nah! That can't be it.
Posted by: elaine at June 24, 2014 10:32 AM (Y0Piu)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 24, 2014 10:32 AM (kcPAW)
Hey now. There is no need to level such a heinous and scurrilous insult towards c*nts.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, expecting to get hit by lightning for this at June 24, 2014 10:32 AM (rt3TY)
That's an actual question, I seem to recall there was at least one case of that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at June 24, 2014 10:30 AM (mf5HN)
Yes. It was the Chief Psychiatrist in St. Louis. He was removed from his position when he made complaints.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:32 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 10:32 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: DHS Forkliftig Ammo Into Warehouses at June 24, 2014 10:32 AM (UeOYb)
Toe shoes??
Law suits??
WTF planet am I on??
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2014 10:33 AM (GXZgZ)
Point of no return...
Straw that broke the camel's back...
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at June 24, 2014 10:33 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2014 10:34 AM (GXZgZ)
Carolyn Maloney, D-Fucking Moron, just totally beclowned herself by going on a rant that this whole IRS scandal was just a result of the IRS trying to figure out the charitable status of these groups based on a law Congress passed. Issa had to interrupt her and point out that these groups are not given charitable status.
Emily Latela never mind response.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2014 10:34 AM (g1DWB)
And on another personal note, I have now gotten a taste of what hell might be like. It's going to involve have a massive sinus headache and chasing a small dog from room to room-a dog which continually barks and growls for over an hour and a half because it's only met you once and is too petrified to have leash put it to go for a walk while its "grandparents " are at some college orientation meeting and the "mother" (college graduate) is on some date an hour away. Yes, I'm sorry it's scared and I tried to be a nice as possible but the daughter should have had a date near her home- date which involved dog walking She's only had the dog for a couple of weeks. It shouldn't have been left alone with a stranger.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 24, 2014 10:34 AM (lLdbc)
It's been alleged, but I don't know the specifics.
But given that the truth seems to be worse than every allegation, it's probably even worse than we suspect.
In the lab, several of our collaborators used to hold dual appointments at the VA (it was a way for the university to boost their salary.) As such they'd get access to the research resources there (a way for the VA to hang on to doctors.) Even in something simple like rodent housing the oversight just wasn't there.
And when it was found out that there was some..shall we say...regulatory non-compliance, the guy responsible just up and left to another institution and no one seemed to care.
But if I had done that, I'd be facing fines, and probably a 3 year NIH ban (if my school's animal program wasn't shut down and I wasn't summarily executed by them.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:35 AM (HDwDg)
Carolyn Maloney, D-Fucking Moron, just totally beclowned herself by going on a rant that this whole IRS scandal was just a result of the IRS trying to figure out the charitable status of these groups based on a law Congress passed. Issa had to interrupt her and point out that these groups are not given charitable status.
Emily Latela never mind response.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2014 10:34 AM (g1DWB)
Got a link?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:35 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2014 10:33 AM (GXZgZ)
Tort World, a dark terrible place, created to make tort lawyers rich.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 24, 2014 10:35 AM (rXcBX)
Point of no return...
Straw that broke the camel's back...
Per Dave Burge:
My car in your living room is why I need a bigger bar tab.
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2014 10:36 AM (GXZgZ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 10:37 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 10:37 AM (9+ccr)
Was that before or after Cochran Medical center in St. Louis forgot to properly sterilize equipment and exposed hundreds or so Vets to HIV and HepC?
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:37 AM (HDwDg)
Here is the live stream.
http://www.politico.com/livestream2/
Not on CSPAN, they are doing hearings on Obama's lawless border crap today. Not enough channels for all of these hearings.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2014 10:38 AM (g1DWB)
At least that's what it sounded like outside in the parking lot.
Posted by: Marybeth at June 24, 2014 10:38 AM (orDe0)
Here is the live stream.
http://www.politico.com/livestream2/
Not on CSPAN, they are doing hearings on Obama's lawless border crap today. Not enough channels for all of these hearings.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2014 10:38 AM (g1DWB)
Thanks. I guess I've missed it then. I'm sure it will show up on youtube sooner or later.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:39 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 10:39 AM (BAS5M)
Elijah wept.
Posted by: Citizen X at June 24, 2014 10:40 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:37 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:41 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 10:41 AM (v0/PR)
WTF could *possibly* happen to someone wearing toe shoes?
I mean other that humiliation.
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2014 10:42 AM (GXZgZ)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2014 10:42 AM (g1DWB)
All you have to do is ignore the supplications of the elderly and ill long enough and they just go away - easy-peasy!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Read The Despondent * Daily Avertiser for Our Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at June 24, 2014 10:43 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 10:43 AM (BAS5M)
Got her WH script ready as do the Dems...
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 10:43 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Citizen X at June 24, 2014 10:40 AM
Seriously?
I turned it off when he started speaking
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 24, 2014 10:43 AM (WRseu)
I mean other that humiliation.
Public exposure as a douchebag would seem to be the primary hazard there...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, expecting to get hit by lightning for this at June 24, 2014 10:43 AM (rt3TY)
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 10:43 AM (v0/PR)
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2014 10:44 AM (GXZgZ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 10:43 AM (BAS5M)
Giving nonanswers, until pressed by Issa at the end.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:44 AM (DrWcr)
The apparently forgot to prewash in cleaning solution.
Back then they claimed that sterilization still happened, just not to procedure exactly, but still sufficiently.
The story just sorta disappeared. (it was 2010, Miderterms happened, news, etc.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:44 AM (HDwDg)
100X Yes!
This is fraud and reckless disregard.
With a body count, fraudulently obtained bonuses, etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 24, 2014 10:44 AM (yCMP5)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at June 24, 2014 10:45 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 10:45 AM (BAS5M)
Pffffffttttt.
I'd be surprised if we even got $1 of the bonus money back.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:45 AM (HDwDg)
Back then they claimed that sterilization still happened, just not to procedure exactly, but still sufficiently.
The story just sorta disappeared. (it was 2010, Miderterms happened, news, etc.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:44 AM (HDwDg)
Autoclave, muthafucka, do you speak it?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:46 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 10:43 AM (BAS5M)
She answers immediately the questions from Dems, and obfuscates when asked a question from a Repub.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at June 24, 2014 10:46 AM (BZAd3)
His second bite at the apple was a weep fest. He was so choked up with worry over Koskinen's reputation after years of service through republican and democrat administrations. It was truly gag worthy.
Posted by: no good deed at June 24, 2014 10:46 AM (v+Cr1)
Posted by: effit at June 24, 2014 10:47 AM (UeOYb)
More fuel for the rage-fire. Chicago suburban library used for child porn and library management and local cops try to cover it up.
Oh, SMOD where is thy merciful sting?
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 24, 2014 10:47 AM (rXcBX)
Turn them loose.
Even if they get good people on a vendetta, the carnage would be so profound that 1) whistleblowers will never be fucked with again and 2) the need for whistleblowers would drop significantly.
Posted by: grognard at June 24, 2014 10:47 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther), Ah, F it. at June 24, 2014 10:47 AM (PYAXX)
A Sudanese woman was re-arrested a day after a local court overturned her death sentence for apostasy, her lawyer said.
Meriam Yehia Ibrahim, 27, was detained today by members of Sudan's national intelligence and security services at the airport in the capital, Khartoum, as she tried to board a flight to leave the country, Elshareef Ali, a member of her legal team who witnessed the event, said by phone. Her husband, Daniel Wani, and two children were also taken into custody, he said.
http://tinyurl.com/mtynkro
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 10:50 AM (v0/PR)
He didn't even want to say that Obama said there was not a smidgen of corruption. He hemmed and hawed and said he 'recalled' hearing he said that.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2014 10:50 AM (DHJbx)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 24, 2014 10:50 AM (0HooB)
of service through republican and democrat administrations.
---
You mean..... just like Scooter Libby ??
Posted by: Bruce Willis at June 24, 2014 10:50 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: fixerupper at June 24, 2014 10:50 AM (nELVU)
Right? "What are all these vets complaining about?" - Quothe the DemonRats. "At least it isn't a long helicopter ride to the morgue.
What a national disgrace. At some point, we'll finally have another Battle of Athens (http://tinyurl.com/kdqfla9), and the scum in charge of this country may finally get the message.
But, nothing will change, even then.
Fuck.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 24, 2014 10:50 AM (TM1p8)
library used for child porn and library management and local cops try to
cover it up.
Oh, SMOD where is thy merciful sting?
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 24, 2014 10:47 AM (rXcBX)
I've got one that will beat that.
Local story of a day care and mentoring program fronting as a child pr0n ring. Four arrested (including one army soldier), police looking for a fifth person.
Fucking sick.
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:50 AM (GQ8sn)
If you hung onto C-Span last night after Issa gaveled a recess, you heard Koskinen hold forth with the press. He was smooth, eloquent and in command of many facts. The contrast between that display and his testimony in response to R questions was hugely stunning.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 10:51 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: effit at June 24, 2014 10:51 AM (UeOYb)
Local story of a day care and mentoring program fronting as a child pr0n ring. Four arrested (including one army soldier), police looking for a fifth person.
Fucking sick.
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:50 AM (GQ8sn)
Perverts like that need to be put down.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:52 AM (DrWcr)
Perverts like that need to be put down.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:52 AM (DrWcr)
Via woodchipper.
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:52 AM (DrWcr)
Via woodchipper.
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Feet first.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 24, 2014 10:53 AM (0AKks)
I assume this is what was meant by "Sterilization."
Viruses are resilient fuckers though, so I can see why you'd want to take steps to remove any remaining tissue on the tools.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:53 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:52 AM (DrWcr)
Via woodchipper.
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Feet first.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 24, 2014 10:53 AM (0AKks)
On the slow setting.
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Megan at June 24, 2014 10:54 AM (RzowE)
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 24, 2014 10:47 AM (rXcBX)
Hey, don't expect me to be cleaning up your mess.
Your monkeys.
Your circus.
Posted by: SMOD don't play like that at June 24, 2014 10:54 AM (mf5HN)
They're reporting here that an assistant principle at a high school "exposed himself to an uncover officer" in a park.
My wife an I agreed it sounded like a soliciting bust, but for some reason they're not reporting it as such.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:55 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Erowmero at June 24, 2014 10:55 AM (go5uR)
Posted by: effit at June 24, 2014 10:55 AM (UeOYb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 24, 2014 10:56 AM (kcPAW)
Posted by: elaine at June 24, 2014 10:56 AM (Y0Piu)
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 10:56 AM (v0/PR)
Posted by: Null at June 24, 2014 10:56 AM (DuH+r)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:57 AM (DrWcr)
* Protect against invasion from without
* Protect Natural Rights of Life, Liberty, and Property
How's our Government doing on those? Not so hot? Well, they're trying to do other things, let's see how they're doing on those- they must be doing them well if they're ignoring their legitimate duties, right?
* Reduce Poverty
* Care for the Elderly
* Educate Children
* Provide "needed infrastructure."
Oh, you mean they suck at all those, too!?
Hmm...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther), Ah, F it. at June 24, 2014 10:57 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: elaine at June 24, 2014 10:58 AM (Y0Piu)
Why, it's almost like a large federal government eventually becomes unanswerable to it's citizens!
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:58 AM (HDwDg)
Fixing the VA will be harder, but it's the right thing to do.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 24, 2014 10:58 AM (m+bD3)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2014 10:59 AM (DHJbx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 24, 2014 10:56 AM (kcPAW)
Did you get an I voted sticker? Because you better have gotten an I voted sticker.
In my opinion, that's the only reason left to vote.
Posted by: SMOD don't play like that at June 24, 2014 10:59 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: elaine at June 24, 2014 10:59 AM (Y0Piu)
Fixing the VA is only possible if the government had sane hiring and firing practices.
They do not.
Therefor it's not just "hard" it's impossible.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:59 AM (HDwDg)
My wife an I agreed it sounded like a soliciting bust, but for some reason they're not reporting it as such.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 10:55 AM (HDwDg)
There's a greenway trail in the city where my work is that is rife with homosexuals hooking up for anonymous action. It's gotten so bad that the city had to shut down parts of it. UC cops have been making busts on the trails. The pervs just openly approach whomever happens to be walking the trail, thinking they're there for the buttsecx. And on other parts of the trail, there are muggings and knockout games going on.
Awesome!
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 11:00 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: effit at June 24, 2014 11:00 AM (UeOYb)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:00 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 24, 2014 11:01 AM (rXcBX)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:01 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: MTF at June 24, 2014 11:01 AM (DSz++)
The same site reports 23.4 million living veterans in the U.S.
So, if the V.A. is such a paragon of healthcare delivery, why are only 78 percent of low-income vets enrolled? Where are they getting their care? Is there a maldistribution of facilities? Is there real or perceived dissatisfaction with care received in the VA system? Are some of them covered under private healthcare through an employer or other avenue? Does the VA system suck so badly that some of these vets are going without care as an alternative?
More importantly, what will happen when the entire country is placed under a system with virtually the same design, and there is no other option?
Posted by: S. Muldoon at June 24, 2014 11:01 AM (mvenn)
In my opinion, that's the only reason left to vote.
I only go to the doctor's office to get the lollipop and sticker.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:02 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: elaine at June 24, 2014 11:02 AM (Y0Piu)
A lot of the rest areas in MA are closed for the same reason.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2014 11:02 AM (DHJbx)
Posted by: effit at June 24, 2014 11:02 AM (UeOYb)
They did say "12 others (or maybe 14, whatever) were rounded up as part of the sting."
It just seemed odd to me that they kept pushing it as "indecent exposure" (which I guess it was, and that's apparently what they charged him with.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 11:02 AM (HDwDg)
exposure" (which I guess it was, and that's apparently what they charged
him with.)
Bets on how long he stays employed and gets to keep his pension?
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Fritz at June 24, 2014 11:04 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 24, 2014 11:04 AM (5OoYm)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at June 24, 2014 11:04 AM (mf5HN)
"The Tea Room Trade."
Classic Bioethics Case discussion.
Doubly so since it happened at WashU.
The author pretended to be a "lookout" for the people, but meanwhile noted what cars they came from.
Then later (pretending to be a Public Health worker) went to their homes and interviewed them about other things (But was really assessing if they were married, had kids, etc.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 11:05 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 24, 2014 11:05 AM (MUSw3)
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:05 AM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 24, 2014 11:04 AM (5OoYm)
I think he was out of the room at the time.
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 11:05 AM (v0/PR)
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 11:07 AM (v0/PR)
Posted by: elaine at June 24, 2014 11:07 AM (Y0Piu)
-Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 24, 2014 11:04 AM (5OoYm)
He's not very good at it. Issa is a clumsy interrogator and a MSM favorite, showing (R) scolds.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:07 AM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 11:07 AM (HDwDg)
The main reasons Veterans prefer the VA to civilian hospitals is they feel they are better understood, and appreciated.
Obviously not everybody, but I know guys who would not go anywhere else.
gIwo
Posted by: BurtTC at June 24, 2014 11:07 AM (m+bD3)
A lot of the rest areas in MA are closed for the same reason.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2014 11:02 AM (DHJbx)
This is normal, natural, acceptable, and even morally superior behavior, which should be taught to children starting in kindergarden.
Posted by: Kevin Jennings at June 24, 2014 11:08 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: effit at June 24, 2014 11:08 AM (UeOYb)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 24, 2014 11:09 AM (5OoYm)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:09 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: elaine at June 24, 2014 11:09 AM (Y0Piu)
Posted by: Rep. Horsford at June 24, 2014 11:09 AM (DrWcr)
Fixing the VA will be harder, but it's the right thing to do.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 24, 2014 10:58 AM (m+bD3)
======================================
I couldn't disagree more strongly. Sacrificing the health and welfare of all veterans just to save "things the VA does that civilian hospitals do not do" is crazy talk. It's akin to saying "there are things the private economy doesn't do well, so lets nationalize everything".
There is a compromise somewhere that allows America to sell off these facilities to a business that knows how to properly serve customers, give veterans vouchers they can use at any hospital of their choice nationwide, like Mayo or wherever and, if there are legitimately some specialities where a particular VA hospital has a specific practice that isn't available elsewhere, we can use some of the budget riches now being squandered to bribe some great hospital into replicating that practice.
But sacrifice everyone else in favor of a keeping a proven failure open? Let people die like this, just for the sake of a socialist dream like the VA?
Screw that.
Posted by: MTF at June 24, 2014 11:10 AM (DSz++)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 11:10 AM (9+ccr)
Classic Bioethics Case discussion.
Doubly so since it happened at WashU.
The author pretended to be a "lookout" for the people, but meanwhile noted what cars they came from.
Then later (pretending to be a Public Health worker) went to their homes and interviewed them about other things (But was really assessing if they were married, had kids, etc.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 11:05 AM (HDwDg)
Wait what the actual fuck?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at June 24, 2014 11:10 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:11 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 24, 2014 11:13 AM (WGm5T)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 11:05 AM (HDwDg)
Sounds like the guy had an agenda in mind when he started his study.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2014 11:13 AM (DHJbx)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:14 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: D.Artist at June 24, 2014 11:14 AM (ahBY0)
We're hosed.
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 11:14 AM (v0/PR)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 24, 2014 11:16 AM (LZv9Z)
-Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:14 AM (BAS5M)
I followed Mr. Werfel around and touched nothing.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:16 AM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2014 11:16 AM (DHJbx)
Yes, if you travel our national highways overnight, like say on a
Cannonball Run cross-country, good luck finding a rest stop with
unlocked bathrooms. Thank you deviant perverts!
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:11 AM (BAS5M)
SC has closed most of the rest stops along I-20 and I-26 because of homosexuals and the trouble that occurred as they populated the rest stops. The only rest stops open now are the ones that have live workers there.
Posted by: Vic at June 24, 2014 11:16 AM (T2V/1)
obama's VA.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-459 days left) at June 24, 2014 11:17 AM (xSfiX)
Posted by: maddogg at June 24, 2014 11:17 AM (xWW96)
half of me kinda feels that theyre covering it only so they cant be accused of not covering it because they see their ratings and they know ultimately they have a business to run
until they actually start holding the people at the top accountable and start tying these scandals and incompetence to left wing ideology were still kinda doomed
Posted by: sound awake at June 24, 2014 11:18 AM (fKOqs)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 24, 2014 11:19 AM (dQoSM)
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:20 AM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 11:20 AM (9+ccr)
Perverts like that need to be put down.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 10:52 AM (DrWcr)
Via woodchipper.
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Feet first.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 24, 2014 10:53 AM (0AKks)
On the slow setting.
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)
While being sprayed down with lemon juice.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 24, 2014 11:21 AM (TIIx5)
Cannonball Run cross-country, good luck finding a rest stop with
unlocked bathrooms.
If only there was some sort of private sector solution to this failure of government, like, oh, I don't know, truck stops or McDonalds or something.
Posted by: lolHR at June 24, 2014 11:21 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Fritz at June 24, 2014 11:21 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Svetlana Olga Chernomyrdin-Kharzin at June 24, 2014 11:21 AM (Ks4nX)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 24, 2014 11:21 AM (TIIx5)
After receiving paper cuts all over their bodies.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:22 AM (DrWcr)
Kurds were asking the WH for help with ISIS weeks before they invaded half of Iraq. No reply.
WTF is our intel pimp-hand doing?
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 11:22 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Lauren at June 24, 2014 11:24 AM (KVJ/h)
They are only accountable to the Federal Government, which means not accountable at all.
No Entity can self police its own actions indefinitely... yet that is the situation now in the US.
The People need to be able to Sue the Government directly... and people in the Government PERSONALLY, for hurting them.
We have placed the Government ABOVE the Law... which flies in the very face of the ideal of a Republic.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2014 11:25 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:25 AM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 11:25 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 11:22 AM (GQ8sn)
Gathering info on us.
Just saw an RFP for a system to take accumulated cellphone data and merge it all into a linked network analytic.Basically, they are going to pull everything using Stingrays, etc, and draw a nice big picture of everyone talking to everyone.
Posted by: grognard at June 24, 2014 11:25 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Brown at June 24, 2014 11:26 AM (9AQdP)
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:26 AM (lq3Ak)
Kurds were asking the WH for help with ISIS weeks before they invaded half of Iraq. No reply.
WTF is our intel pimp-hand doing?
Posted by: EC at June 24, 2014 11:22 AM (GQ8sn)
OT... just like DHS and White House knew MONTHS ago that our borders were going to be flooded with illegal children....
They are crashing the system.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2014 11:26 AM (84gbM)
WTF is our intel pimp-hand doing?
I'm using that hand to surf the internet. Artistic sites and such. Researching universal standards of feminine beauty. [wink wink]
Posted by: Intel Pimp Hand at June 24, 2014 11:26 AM (BAS5M)
Yeah if I were leader of the senate I would worry about a private business name and not about vets.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 24, 2014 11:27 AM (HVff2)
These are some truly stupid people.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2014 11:27 AM (g1DWB)
Reckless Disregard for Human Life
Conspiracy to Defraud the Public
Manslaughter
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 24, 2014 11:27 AM (EtvVh)
It has a Wikipedia page if you don't believe me.
I got it more or less right though.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 months! at June 24, 2014 11:28 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: sweet.... ish at June 24, 2014 11:28 AM (KGD6Q)
Posted by: chiefjaybob at June 24, 2014 11:28 AM (0svkF)
Posted by: grognard at June 24, 2014 11:25 AM (/29Nl)
You always put your resources down against the enemy you fear most....
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2014 11:28 AM (84gbM)
Cannonball Run cross-country, good luck finding a rest stop with
unlocked bathrooms.
___________________________________________________
The summer between my freshman sophmore years in high school, one of our guidance councellors was fired because he got caught blowing someone at a local public restroom near a recreational fishing area.
Posted by: Countrysquire, pulling for Pepe at June 24, 2014 11:29 AM (eEBON)
I hope he's got one of those guns from the Fifth Element though. He'll need it.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2014 11:29 AM (DHJbx)
Posted by: Vic at June 24, 2014 11:16 AM (T2V/1)
Homosexuals? Troubles? Nah couldn't be
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 24, 2014 11:30 AM (HVff2)
john kerry goes to Iraq and asks the Kurds to jump on a sinking ship -- join the Iraqi govt...which will include ISIS, if kerry and obama have their way
Kurds should send john kerry back in a crate to send the right message to obama.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-459 days left) at June 24, 2014 11:32 AM (xSfiX)
Posted by: Vic at June 24, 2014 11:16 AM (T2V/1)
Homosexuals? Troubles? Nah couldn't be
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 24, 2014 11:30 AM (HVff2)
They're all wonderful, enlightened, morally superior people. Didn't you get the memo?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:32 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 24, 2014 11:33 AM (5OoYm)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2014 11:28 AM (84gbM)
It's not like they haven't been telling us what they are going to do for decades. Bill Ayers spelled it out. Now they must think they have the critical numbers of police and military to do their dirty work for them.Stingrays, in particular, are bad juju. For anyone not familiar with the term, they are a box that mimics a cell tower. Your phone connects with it and sends information to it. There's no way to tell if you're connected to a Stingray, and no way to have that info expunged if they capture your data.They are being provided/purchased by the feds and given to local law enforcement, in addition to being used by the feds themselves.
Anyone conservative minded person would be wise to avoid any sorts of obvious entanglements with the information superhighway, especially wireless.
Posted by: grognard at June 24, 2014 11:34 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: effit at June 24, 2014 11:34 AM (UeOYb)
Posted by: Countrysquire, pulling for Pepe at June 24, 2014 11:34 AM (eEBON)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 24, 2014 11:33 AM (5OoYm)
Nah, she'd have to study hard to reach stupid
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 11:35 AM (t3UFN)
http://tinyurl.com/l29cjd6
SSG Ryan Pitts to receive Medal of Honor.
Plus, first hand accounts of the battle and how the military is possibly mishandling (surprise-given current climate) its aftermath.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at June 24, 2014 11:35 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 24, 2014 11:35 AM (5OoYm)
Case in point, the hashtag #bornperfect which wants to make sexual conversion therapy illegal.
Ironically , the hastag creator is a lesbian. Because women don't go back and forth in their sexuality, ever.
But interesting choice: born perfect. They really see themselves as superior beings.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2014 11:36 AM (DHJbx)
Your comment looks like Hitler, and I feel personally violated.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2014 11:36 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 11:37 AM (v0/PR)
Which isnt all the surprising considering how incompetent the Obama regime is.
Weasel Zippers
Own it baby
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 11:37 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:37 AM (DrWcr)
...four if you count the NSA.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:37 AM (lq3Ak)
They closed it for a few years IIRC then moved some guy in in a trailer or something as a caretaker.
Posted by: JEM at June 24, 2014 11:37 AM (o+SC1)
Ironically , the hastag creator is a lesbian. Because women don't go back and forth in their sexuality, ever.
But interesting choice: born perfect. They really see themselves as superior beings.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 24, 2014 11:36 AM (DHJbx)
Good God.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:38 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:38 AM (DrWcr)
Either they are too stupid to understand the concept of client-server computing, OR, they figure the American people are, by and large, too stupid to understand it, so it can be swept under the rug if they concentrate on the workstation hard drive.
Not mutually exclusive. They have no interest in informing themselves OR in asking the right questions, nor will they receive answers.
Posted by: grognard at June 24, 2014 11:39 AM (/29Nl)
Andy addressed this a few days ago. It's worth going back and reading it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2014 11:40 AM (QFxY5)
So psychological help should be illegal, but chopping off your dick because you think you're a girl? Just fine.
Got it.
Posted by: grognard at June 24, 2014 11:40 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: JEM at June 24, 2014 11:41 AM (o+SC1)
...four if you count the NSA.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:37 AM (lq3Ak)
225 And what about the servers? Backups? This is IT 101. Fuck, this pisses me off.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:38 AM (DrWcr)
They discussed them last night. Apparently, you only get space for 6000 e-mails on the server.
And the Sonasoft backup contract was with the IRS' chief counsel office only.
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 11:42 AM (v0/PR)
So be it. Burn down the VA, and scatter its ashes amongst the wolves... then blow up the wolves!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 24, 2014 11:42 AM (m+bD3)
It's worse than you think. From what I gather the employee is supposed to print any email they think pertinent to government business, save it in a file and then turn over to the National Archive.
Only the IRS counsels office has electronic backup. Some 3000 attorneys.
Posted by: Golfman at OIB at June 24, 2014 11:43 AM (xJvb5)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2014 11:43 AM (QFxY5)
And the Sonasoft backup contract was with the IRS' chief counsel office only."
-Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 11:42 AM (v0/PR)
Thank you, Tami. I missed that last night.
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:44 AM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: Golfman at OIB at June 24, 2014 11:44 AM (xJvb5)
And the Sonasoft backup contract was with the IRS' chief counsel office only.
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 11:42 AM (v0/PR)
I guess I missed that discussion. That is absolutely ridiculous.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:44 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 11:44 AM (9+ccr)
Each IRS employee had storage space for 6k emails on the server. Once an employee got close to the limit, they got prompted to archive off emails.
Apparently, Lois Lerner archived her excess emails to her hard drive. Which then awkwardly failed.
The backups were put on a tape drive, which was recycled after 6 mos. More than 6 mos had passed after Lerner's HD crashed and the missing emails were "discovered" and so the tape backups had already been overwritten.
This is what I understand so far.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:45 AM (BAS5M)
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/349929.php#349929
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2014 11:43 AM (QFxY5)
The IRS would not accept half-assed IT structure like that as an excuse from a business that couldn't produce records.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:46 AM (DrWcr)
2 Isn't that a felony? I want somebody to go to jail.
There are all kinds of felonies going on here. The one I want to see most prosecuted is the one of getting bonuses and pay bumps for their work.
They were receiving those benefits because they were doctoring their records. So I believe that would either qualify as fraud, or perhaps as "theft by conversion". or both.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 24, 2014 11:46 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 11:47 AM (t3UFN)
But I thought Hopenchange was gonna fix the VA. He said so in 2007-8 because Boooosh. From what I gather, the Law of Unintended consequences made shit worse. To lower the dreadful Booosh waiting times, SCOAMF and Shinseki devised a bonus plan for those that reduce waiting times. So, govt. workers being the lazy type, rather than actually reducing wait times through improved SERVICE, just fudged the numbers. See also unemployment numbers, inflation numbers, GDP numbers, etc.
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262 at June 24, 2014 11:47 AM (9Bdcz)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:47 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: effit at June 24, 2014 11:48 AM (UeOYb)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 24, 2014 11:48 AM (5OoYm)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:48 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: elaine at June 24, 2014 11:49 AM (Y0Piu)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:49 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Golfman at OIB at June 24, 2014 11:49 AM (xJvb5)
Posted by: Disgruntled Veteran at June 24, 2014 11:49 AM (nQjHM)
Bush lost e-mails regarding the targeting by the IRS of Conservative groups? I did not know that...
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 11:49 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 11:49 AM (v0/PR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 11:50 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 24, 2014 11:50 AM (5OoYm)
They're just soldiers...not union members or activists. Let's put this in perspective!
Posted by: Democrat Party at June 24, 2014 11:50 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Jen at June 24, 2014 11:50 AM (3PBRb)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:51 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 11:51 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Countrysquire, pulling for Pepe at June 24, 2014 11:52 AM (eEBON)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:52 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Choo Choo Biden at June 24, 2014 11:52 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 11:53 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 11:53 AM (t3UFN)
RIP Terry Richardson. One of the UK's top stunt men, Terry Richards, who starred in more than 100 films including Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark has died aged 81.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-27978446
Posted by: War Pug at June 24, 2014 11:53 AM (lJm99)
Posted by: Whoopie bumping turtles w/Moochelle at June 24, 2014 11:53 AM (5buP8)
Hello from Way Down Here on another cold winter night in Sydney...
OT as usual as you very inconsiderately are living in the past!
Just browsing through the UK Daily Mail and I noticed the following little stories
An American visitor to London had his head kicked in by apparent Muzzies who objected to this bloke swigging alcohol while walking down the street - Londonistan it is now...
Two lovely Labradors poisoned in their own yard by some sicko dropping poison over the fence
And our lovely monarch Queen Elizabeth is in Northern Ireland and looking great - goodness that woman is always out and about - what an inspiration for women of a certain age
Posted by: aussie at June 24, 2014 11:53 AM (EGwwB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 11:53 AM (t3UFN)
If he didn't have BOOOOSH he'd have to invent him. The left will always have an Emmanuel Goldstein.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 24, 2014 11:53 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:54 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Adam at June 24, 2014 11:54 AM (G8ga7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2014 11:53 AM (t3UFN)
If Fredo didn't have black skin he be some ambulance chasing attorney with a drug habit.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 24, 2014 11:54 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2014 11:56 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2014 11:56 AM (v0/PR)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at June 24, 2014 11:56 AM (9+ccr)
They're all wonderful, enlightened, morally superior people. Didn't you get the memo?
Case in point, the hashtag #bornperfect which wants to make sexual conversion therapy illegal.
Ironically , the hastag creator is a lesbian. Because women don't go back and forth in their sexuality, ever.
But interesting choice: born perfect. They really see themselves as superior beings.
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And you know where that puts the rest of us.
I'm sure they'll have a solution to the problem of imperfect people . . . .
But yeah, let's pretend they're all nice people like on Modern Family . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 24, 2014 11:56 AM (VjL9S)
My worst experience at the WPB VA is walking through the main entrance and seeing Hussein's doctored photo. It's a choke and puke moment.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at June 24, 2014 11:56 AM (nQjHM)
Posted by: WaPost/NY Times editiorial super genius! at June 24, 2014 11:57 AM (5buP8)
'Course not - why should they? Dead vets don't vote - either way - and a lot of them likely weren't "reliable" voters for Democraps while still alive. So...
Posted by: J.S.Bridges at June 24, 2014 11:57 AM (SNtFV)
Posted by: elaine at June 24, 2014 11:57 AM (Y0Piu)
http://tinyurl.com/ld9n2mo
David Brock, Chairman of Media Matters For America (MMFA) -- the George Soros/John Podesta created organization designed to protect progressive politicians from media reports -- has sent a letter to 'the media' advising them that the Washington Free Beacon practices unethical journalism, particularly in regards to recent reports about a 1970s Hillary Clinton's defense of a rapist by attacking the 12-year-old victim.
Love the grumpy pic they used.
Posted by: RWC at June 24, 2014 11:58 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Slapweasel at June 24, 2014 11:58 AM (lq3Ak)
So be it. Burn down the VA, and scatter its ashes amongst the wolves... then blow up the wolves!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 24, 2014 11:42 AM (m+bD3)
I find your faith in government.... cute.
Posted by: KG at June 24, 2014 12:04 PM (p7BzH)
CNN doesn't deserve credit. They will never link the scandal to Barack Obama.
You know, Barack Obama. The current President of the United States? The head of that impenetrable netherworld known as the Executive Branch to which the Department of Veterans Affairs belongs?
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 24, 2014 12:05 PM (K1SnB)
in asking the right questions, nor will they receive answers.
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Because, there is one.
One they don't want you to know.
There are at least 3 Republicans who are in the to/from address line.
Look at who has been quiet despite being in a position to actually get results.
This is a line that goes directly up to Boehner.
If--IF--the Republicans had any intent to actually do something, they wouldn't allow the Dems any slack whatsoever--Issa would be calling them to order, calling them out and naming their ploy, interrupting them every time they attempt to deflect or defend.
This is a raw abuse of power and only a brutal and raw use of power will call it to heal--anything less than shutting off the mics tells you they don't intend to tame this corruption.
There is no reason to let the Dems completely derail this issue UNLESS you have an agreement of "good cop/bad cop."
That's the game, here.
This is about as real as last Monday's WWE show.
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 24, 2014 12:07 PM (VjL9S)
I hate to say this but it's so obvious-- all the black members of the
committee do is vomit all over the proceedings. God forbid any of this
gets close to their god Obama.
If any lib ever uses the phrase "house slave" or "house n*****" about a black conservative, just utter the words "Elijah Cummings".
Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 24, 2014 12:18 PM (XO6WW)
head of that impenetrable netherworld known as the Executive Branch to
which the Department of Veterans Affairs belongs?"
No...! No! The King is being misled by his evil counselors!
Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 24, 2014 12:20 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 24, 2014 12:21 PM (XO6WW)
computing, OR, they figure the American people are, by and large, too
stupid to understand it, so it can be swept under the rug if they
concentrate on the workstation hard drive."
Most of these people don't understand jack beyond the parliamentary nuances and favor-trading they do every day...
Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 24, 2014 12:22 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Koskinen's alien wife with vertical lids at June 24, 2014 01:37 PM (ytSri)
"...there are things the VA does that civilian hospitals do not do..."
Yes, indeedy - in recent years, chiefly, they've become rather expert in failing to actually schedule appointments and/or render needed (though expensive) care to their primary clientele, thus greatly increasing the likelihood of said clientele dying very soon - not (yet,anyway...) too many civilian hospitals "delivering" that sort of "service", I think...
"...and
lots of Veterans who do not want to go to civilian hospitals, with good
reason."
Also very true - mostly on account of a) said Veterans' being told by their Gubment that their having served honorably entitles them to needed health care at very low cost via a VA facility, and b) said Vets' further expectation - also based on Gubment statements/documentation - that said low-cost (to them) care via the VA will be rendered promptly and at a comparable or greater level of quality to that obtainable from a civilian facility.
Of course, it's clear that in recent times, the Gubment has been lying to said Vets about b), but, you know...
Posted by: J.S.Bridges at June 24, 2014 02:38 PM (SNtFV)
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