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Saturday Car Thread 04/19/14 - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse & Countrysquire]

In a rush today but didn't want to leave you hanging.

Here's a few photos for you to discuss. Some of you have seen them, others have not.

I spotted this in a Hardees parking lot:


This is for sale just down the street from me. Check out those wheels!

Here's another view of that one.

I was behind this on the interstate for several miles. Wanna know how I know he was hauling taller than 13' 6"?

He tapped the brakes before every single overpass and every single sign.


Then there's this '57 Thunderbird which pulled in $60k at a recent Barrett-Jackson auction.

Wow!

And here's one of the ugliest cars I've seen in some time:


Here's a pretty little gal for the Morons:



Please feel free to send any complaints or commendations to us at Twitter: Nied's Dead Horse and Countrysquire.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 03:21 PM




Comments

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1 A gold Bugatti Veryon? So Puff Daddy needed a tax dodge?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:23 PM (JgpFm)

2 Now here is a car block. Literally. But is it art?

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/selection-du-weekend-84-4.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:24 PM (JgpFm)

3 That's Sandra Bullock in a car. I really like that car now.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at April 19, 2014 03:27 PM (Qp0nB)

4 I don't like that wrapped stuff on cars, just bugs me for some reason.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 19, 2014 03:27 PM (hJauc)

5 Is that Sandra? I'm not sure about it.
If it is, I have long wanted to teach her a lesson...

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 19, 2014 03:28 PM (X3xYu)

6 61 Falcon, big tire pimp mobile, expensive Bugatti, and monster truck going to show.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 03:28 PM (T2V/1)

7 I am surprised the 57 T-Bird didn't bring in more. There must be something pulling it down.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 03:29 PM (T2V/1)

8 I am not a fan of donk rides. Put some proper wheels on that Buick and it might be nice.

Posted by: steveegg at April 19, 2014 03:30 PM (o44nj)

9 Do those hoopty rims have drum brakes behind them?

Posted by: johnd01 at April 19, 2014 03:30 PM (r0+v0)

10 What 62 ford falcon with after market hood?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:30 PM (0FSuD)

11 Now here is a car block. Literally. But is it art?

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/selection-du-weekend-84-4.jpg


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:24 PM (JgpFm)


Looks like a parking garage accident.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 03:31 PM (yh0zB)

12 >>> And here's one of the ugliest cars I've seen in some time:

I'd drive it.

Posted by: fluffy at April 19, 2014 03:31 PM (Ua6T/)

13 Is that a "power bulge" in that Falcon hood? Good God.

A 289 (/302) fits under with room to spare; neither Falcon or Mustang was engineered to support the weight (let alone torque) of any V8, let alone blocks of the tank-hull class. Either someone welded up a lot of gussets and doublers, or the doors fly open when you punch it.

Falcons weren't broken in until you could see through the floorboards. This one is setting up so pretty on what it had instead of suspension, that same someone must have remade the spring perches. On a car made of sheet metal (not the body -- the car -- that's a lot of pounding.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 03:32 PM (xq1UY)

14 12 >>> And here's one of the ugliest cars I've seen in some time:

I'd drive it.

Posted by: fluffy at April 19, 2014 03:31 PM (Ua6T/)

No, your pimp would drive it, you would be hanging out the window showing your big tits.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:32 PM (0FSuD)

15 A cement truck in a parking garage accident.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:35 PM (JgpFm)

16 11 Now here is a car block. Literally. But is it art?
--------
Whatever it is, I like that little blue "truck" up on the eighth floor. I bet it would be an economical little work truck. Probably an IDI diesel, easy to run on homemade bunker fuel.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 19, 2014 03:37 PM (vztUc)

17 >>> No, your pimp would drive it, you would be hanging out the window showing your big tits.

No one wants to see my hairy moobs.

I would gladly take that back with a full tank if I could burn through a couple dozen laps on a track.

Posted by: fluffy at April 19, 2014 03:38 PM (Ua6T/)

18 I have a couple of friends at the 50th in Charlotte who are saying the new 2015 Mustang looks better in person than it does in pics. I'm talking myself out of a new base model GT coupe with the Brembos and 6MT...cause I really don't need it...and I really don't want a car payment...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 03:38 PM (yh0zB)

19 @ 13


yeah, body twist is common on unibody designs. Mopar makes/made various stiffeners to counteract the torque on their B bodies.

Done right, it's unobtrusive and effective.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 03:40 PM (SAMxH)

20 Whatever it is, I like that little blue "truck" up
on the eighth floor. I bet it would be an economical little work truck.
Probably an IDI diesel, easy to run on homemade bunker fuel.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 19, 2014 03:37 PM (vztUc)



Looks kind of like a Triumph 10: http://tinyurl.com/pa97egh

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 03:41 PM (yh0zB)

21 Happy 50th Anniversary to the Mustang

http://tinyurl.com/lweyun9

Some elbows in too there for click bait

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 03:41 PM (aTXUx)

22 Ford GT40 Barn find.

http://tinyurl.com/mpwo2ur

That Bugatti the red headed step child of the GT40.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 19, 2014 03:42 PM (BJpOW)

23 I had a '61 Falcon about 20 years ago. I never in a million years thought anybody could "hotrod" a '61 Falcon. It was a fun car to own, but it was lacking in the power. I did enjoy 3 on the tree shifter confusing the hell out of people when they saw it.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 19, 2014 03:43 PM (Yx4EH)

24 Yikes GGE, Brandon MS Ford dealer wants $62k for a 2014 Mustang GT Premium. I will keep my paid for autographed by Shelby GT500 I think. Or see how much the dealer will offer me for it...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:43 PM (JgpFm)

25 The wheels on the Buick look like ass.

Posted by: Dick (@DicksTrash) at April 19, 2014 03:46 PM (GrtrJ)

26 That 62 Falcon would need some beefing up to handle the torque, but the 2nd gen 64 through 66 would have no problem since many came with a 289 option, and the Mustang was built on the Falcon platform

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 03:49 PM (aTXUx)

27 The wheels on the Buick look like ass.

***

And it is otherwise a beautiful car. WTH were they thinking?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 19, 2014 03:49 PM (DmNpO)

28 With the Mention of the Mustang GT 500 i was going to make a comment that Hertz used to rent them. Binged for info and found out they still do. I know what I want for Christmas now.

http://tinyurl.com/n7bt833

Posted by: The Hickster at April 19, 2014 03:49 PM (BJpOW)

29 Some elbows in too there for click bait





Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 03:41 PM (aTXUx)



Nice. One quibble...the Mustang II was not on the same chassis as a Pinto, I don't care what Wikipedia tells you. Shared some suspension components with, but not the same chassis; it was bigger and closer to the Maverick chassis but there again, not quite the same. Common misconception.

http://www.mustangii.net/questions.asp#pinto

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 03:49 PM (yh0zB)

30 Times must be rough if that 57 T-Bird only brought 60K, even though it looks like Barbie's T-Bird or a Mary Kay car

Must have been bidders who didn't want to look teh ghey driving it

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 03:50 PM (aTXUx)

31 That Bugatti is gorgeous with a proper paint job. I'm not into the newly discovered metal paints.

I'm sure that goes down great in the middle east - probably a Sheik's car.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 19, 2014 03:52 PM (pgQxn)

32 Brandon MS Ford dealer wants $62k for a 2014
Mustang GT Premium. I will keep my paid for autographed by Shelby GT500 I
think. Or see how much the dealer will offer me for it...


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:43 PM (JgpFm)



Holy hell, go find another dealer. The MSRP on it is a bit over 35K, so unless he gold plated the damn thing he's crazy as an outhouse rat. Heck the Shelby convertible MSRP is only 60K.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 03:53 PM (yh0zB)

33
My brother had a 63.5 Falcon Sprint. 260 v8, 4-speed and 3:54 rear end. Those Falcons sported Fairlane suspension components and bigger brakes.

Everything worked well with itself, the engine torque curve, trans ratios, suspension, etc all collaborated.

Not a world beater for speed, 105 was tops, but a perfect sweetheart to drive.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 03:54 PM (SAMxH)

34 Love the '57 T-bird!
Except for the pink color.
Tho' it would go over big in San Francisco...

Posted by: navybrat at April 19, 2014 03:54 PM (JgC5a)

35 My 08 coupe with $2k scarcity fee was only $48k. So me getting another unless I win the lottery are Slim and None.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:55 PM (JgpFm)

36 Looks kind of like a Triumph 10: http://tinyurl.com/pa97egh
-------
Hey, GGE. How've you been. Happy belated b-day to the son (I think that was you?).

Not sure about the Triumph 10 thing, but maybe. When I googled that term or related, all I got was cars & wagons, and some running shoes & skateboard trucks.
Did find a link where someone was shoving an LS corvette engine in one an old Triumph wagon, though.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 19, 2014 03:56 PM (vztUc)

37 My 08 coupe with $2k scarcity fee was only $48k. So me getting another unless I win the lottery are Slim and None.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:55 PM (JgpFm)


You won't get a new one with an autograph on it, that's for damn sure.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 03:56 PM (yh0zB)

38 Hey, GGE. How've you been. Happy belated b-day to the son (I think that was you?).



Not sure about the Triumph 10 thing, but maybe. When I googled that
term or related, all I got was cars wagons, and some running shoes
skateboard trucks.

Did find a link where someone was shoving an LS corvette engine in one an old Triumph wagon, though.



Posted by: shredded chi at April 19, 2014 03:56 PM (vztUc)


Actually you're early for one and late for the other. Eldest son's B-day is the 2nd and youngest son's B-day is tomorrow.

There's a guy here in NC that has a collection of the TR-10 (not the official Triumph name for them, but that is what they are commonly referred to), he's got the saloon (sedan), the estate wagon, the pickup and the van. An LS engine in one would be madness...in a good way...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 03:59 PM (yh0zB)

39 That black convertible for sale..........yeah, pimp-mobile.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 04:01 PM (xx0aH)

40 27 The wheels on the Buick look like ass. 

*** 

And it is otherwise a beautiful car. WTH were they thinking?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 19, 2014 03:49 PM (DmNpO)
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Probably "gov't paid the rent & put food in the fridge, might as well spend my unemployment check on these sweet dubs!"

I denounce myself.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 19, 2014 04:01 PM (vztUc)

41 Sorry, may not be a convert but just a fabric covering. Still pimp-mobile.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 04:02 PM (xx0aH)

42 Nice. One quibble...the Mustang II was not on the same chassis as a Pinto, I don't care what Wikipedia tells you. Shared some suspension components with, but not the same chassis; it was bigger and closer to the Maverick chassis but there again, not quite the same. Common misconception.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 03:49 PM (yh0zB)

As a fellow Moron who believes in accuracy and integrity, and since you've told far more people who see it here that I fucked up that fact, I've updated the post with attribution to you and a linky to your blog in the attribute

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:02 PM (aTXUx)

43 Probably "gov't paid the rent & put food in the fridge, might as well spend my unemployment check on these sweet dubs!"

I denounce myself.


***

I don't think so, because there are a number of beautiful cars at that business. What I think might have happened is that they are targeting the folks you referenced above.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 19, 2014 04:04 PM (DmNpO)

44 @26 There was a 427 option on the semi-unibody Fairlane, too, but that doesn't mean you couldn't tear one in two if you revved it before engaging the clutch. A Boss 302 could rip a 14" gash in a '67 Mustang engine cradle. Ask how I know.

The whole package of sub-frame connectors and Shelby and Monte Carlo braces was under $200, and they weren't too hard to install. Made you wonder why the factory didn't put them in. What a difference.

The "Futura" V8 Falcons often got called "the poor man's Mustang." And then you'd laugh, because, like, the Mustang was the poor man's Mustang. But you sure could have a lot of fun with one, breathed on a little, stiff shocks and stuff. The Comets were an even better sleeper, looked just like Grandma's, until they spoilt it with that drag-racing program. After that, everybody wanted to see what Grandma's Comet would do.

Best sleeper ever was the Lark with the Avanti R2 engine.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 04:04 PM (xq1UY)

45 Actually you're early for one and late for the other. Eldest son's B-day is the 2nd and youngest son's B-day is tomorrow.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 03:59 PM (yh0zB)


My mom's b-day is the 2nd and my niece's is tomorrow.

To make this applicable to the car thread, my brother used to own a '67 Chevelle.

Posted by: Vendette at April 19, 2014 04:08 PM (7yt0b)

46 66 and 67 Chevy Novas with the LT-1's were great sleeper street cars too, along with the 67 to 69 Dodge Darts with the 340

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:10 PM (aTXUx)

47 and since you've told far more people who see it
here that I fucked up that fact



Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:02 PM (aTXUx)



uhhhh...sorry...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 04:11 PM (yh0zB)

48 Best sleeper ever was the Lark with the Avanti R2 engine.

Posted by: Stringer
-------------------------------

Hard to argue that. There was a time when you could put together a 'supercar' for fairly low $. Two-door sedan Chevy Bel-Air, with 409, 4spd, and posi options checked, nothing else. No radio, no A/C, rubber floor mats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:11 PM (aDwsi)

49 Does anybody know anything about Auto Parts Warehouse? I am looking for a replacement transmission control computer for a 1991 Honda Accord and they have a variety of "remanufactured" replacements - no idea what the differences are between them or if they are any good.

The original factory version had a couple weak spots - that is why I need to replace mine - so just getting a used one might be not be a good idea.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 19, 2014 04:12 PM (pljWy)

50 Nice pic of a 2005 Mustang

http://tinyurl.com/mnp8zld

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:12 PM (aTXUx)

51 My mom's b-day is the 2nd and my niece's is tomorrow.


Posted by: Vendette at April 19, 2014 04:08 PM (7yt0b)



My twin nephews also have a birthday on the 2nd, my Dad's is the 10th, my youngest grand-daughter is also tomorrow, youngest grandson's is the 22nd. April is a month for birthdays it seems.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 04:12 PM (yh0zB)

52 66 and 67 Chevy Novas with the LT-1's were great sleeper street cars too, along with the 67 to 69 Dodge Darts with the 340

Posted by: kbdabear
--------------

I was very partial to the Novas with L76, 365 hp 327.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:13 PM (aDwsi)

53 Gorgeous pic of a 66 Mustang convertible

http://tinyurl.com/mlumscr

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:13 PM (aTXUx)

54 The original factory version had a couple weak spots
- that is why I need to replace mine - so just getting a used one might
be not be a good idea.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 19, 2014 04:12 PM (pljWy)


Re-manufactured is broken and repaired, so there's a chance they fixed the original weak spot...but only a chance.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 04:14 PM (yh0zB)

55 Brother converted straight six Maverick shift from tree to floor. I said no way but it worked. Admirable. Then he got a real Mustang.

Posted by: Cryptocon at April 19, 2014 04:15 PM (cgWjy)

56 Yet another GM related safety issue that did not prompt a recall. Even though it caused vehicles to lose their power steering. But these same idiots hyperventilated over Toyota.

http://tinyurl.com/nqq3tl2

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 04:16 PM (JgpFm)

57 >>> Nice pic of a 2005 Mustang

There's a car in that photo?

Posted by: fluffy at April 19, 2014 04:16 PM (Ua6T/)

58 My twin nephews also have a birthday on the 2nd, my Dad's is the 10th, my youngest grand-daughter is also tomorrow, youngest grandson's is the 22nd. April is a month for birthdays it seems.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 04:12 PM (yh0zB)


Said brother (owner of the Chevelle) was born on the 7th. I should have been a mid-April baby, but sis and I arrived in March.


Nice pic of a 2005 Mustang

http://tinyurl.com/mnp8zld

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:12 PM (aTXUx)


I do not look as good in front of the SO's '06.

Posted by: Vendette at April 19, 2014 04:17 PM (7yt0b)

59 Re-manufactured is broken and repaired, so there's a chance they fixed the original weak spot...but only a chance.

Posted by: GGE
-------------------
FWIW, a number of factory replacement parts are pieces that fell out of production for one reason or another, and were reworked at the production plant to be sold as replacement parts. Those pieces are not called 'Reman', because they were never sold or put into service before they were 'remanufactured'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:18 PM (aDwsi)

60 Not a car but my scooter porn for the day. My '10 model Heritage Softail.

http://tinyurl.com/mpweyv5

Posted by: Dick (@DicksTrash) at April 19, 2014 04:20 PM (GrtrJ)

61 52 deg. and drizzly. I feel a nap coming on.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:20 PM (aDwsi)

62 I was very partial to the Novas with L76, 365 hp 327.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:13 PM (aDwsi)

The 66 and 67 came out with the L76 and it was a beast. A friend of mine built his 66 Nova using the LT-1 from a wrecked 69 Camaro

The 68 and 69 Nova SS had either the LT-1 or the 396 with the M22 Stone Crusher or the 400 hydromatic 3 speed

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:21 PM (aTXUx)

63 Did you see this at the New York Auto Show? An electric vehicle to replace the horse drawn carriages. Right...

http://tinyurl.com/ph5uo3q

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 04:21 PM (JgpFm)

64 *sniffs*
*detects the odious taint of troll in the air*

WTF? Someone trolling a car thread?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:21 PM (aDwsi)

65 Heh. A car thread troll.

Love it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 19, 2014 04:22 PM (DmNpO)

66 The banhammer is swift...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:22 PM (aDwsi)

67 Heh. A car thread troll.

Love it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's
----------------

I could understand if the troll was slamming...,oh..., MOPAR.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:23 PM (aDwsi)

68 Sometimes I type things but don't press post. Such as, for that last picture.

Posted by: Up With People at April 19, 2014 04:24 PM (pf+hU)

69 There's a car in that photo?

Look behind the boobs and hips. Behind the boobs and hips.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 04:24 PM (N0lXV)

70 and if you need to get that Mustang washed...



http://tinyurl.com/llvc5rd

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 04:26 PM (yh0zB)

71 And GGE just stole the souls of everyone who clicked on that link... think we could get a few non-chemical redheads?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 04:27 PM (JgpFm)

72 Hard to argue that. There was a time when you could put together a 'supercar' for fairly low $. Two-door sedan Chevy Bel-Air, with 409, 4spd, and posi options checked, nothing else. No radio, no A/C, rubber floor mats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:11 PM (aDwsi)

The Biscaynes in battleship gray usually driven by insurance company adjusters were great starter cars. I think Chevy even offered the options for for the 409 and then the 396 in the Biscaynes and Bel-Airs before they came out with the Impala SS


Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:28 PM (aTXUx)

73 http://tinyurl.com/llvc5rd

A few of those girls have a bit of meat on the bones. Got some curves.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 04:28 PM (N0lXV)

74 I do not look as good in front of the SO's '06.

Posted by: Vendette at April 19, 2014 04:17 PM (7yt0b)



I'm sure that SO would disagree.

darn, I missed the troll?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 04:28 PM (yh0zB)

75 kbd - Yeah, I knew a guy (and I forget whether Biscayne or Bel-Air) who had a 409, three-on-the-column.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:31 PM (aDwsi)

76 GGE - It amounted to a tiny wrinkle in time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:32 PM (aDwsi)

77 GGE - Condensed version: If you disapprove of Mr. Obama's presidency you are, ipso facto, a racist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:34 PM (aDwsi)

78
Be careful about slamming Mopars.


Just a friendly reminder.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 04:35 PM (SAMxH)

79 "In a rush today but didn't want to leave you hanging."

Heh. There's a religious joke in there.



Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 19, 2014 04:36 PM (9W+0f)

80 Dubs on that otherwise gorgeous Buick GS?

Jesus Wept

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:36 PM (aTXUx)

81 Mustang question: Was it ever available with the 240 V8

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:36 PM (aDwsi)

82 Not a Mopar, not even a car. But it does have 4wheels and I've never seen it.

http://tinyurl.com/n27olba

Posted by: tbodie at April 19, 2014 04:37 PM (1zmtP)

83 Just a friendly reminder.

Posted by: irongrampa
--------------

I figured that would get a rise out of you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:38 PM (aDwsi)

84 No cars were stolen at the All Ginger Car Wash

But countless souls will never be returned to their rightful owners

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:38 PM (aTXUx)

85 I think the 240 V8 was a flathead.

Mustang did have the 260.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 04:39 PM (xq1UY)

86 And for those of you from the George Jetson generation:

http://tinyurl.com/pjg4ha7

Posted by: tbodie at April 19, 2014 04:42 PM (1zmtP)

87 Dad liked cars so the first car I remember was a 55 Chevy Sport Coupe with 265 V8, black with a white top. When mom's dad died we got the 61 Impala "White Whale" until dad came home with the 65 Impala Super Sport, black with a white top. Then the 68 Impala Sport Coupe, black with a white top. Detect a trend?

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 19, 2014 04:42 PM (USdns)

88
Losing your soul to a ginger isn't entirely a BAD thing.


Speaking from personal experience.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 04:42 PM (SAMxH)

89 Mustang did have the 260.

Posted by: Stringer
-------------

I knew that there was a small V8, I recalled 240, but see now it was a 221. The quest then, was 221 ever put in the Mustang?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:42 PM (aDwsi)

90 GGE - Condensed version: If you disapprove of Mr. Obama's presidency you are, ipso facto, a racist.


***

Yet he used considerably more words to say what you just said in one sentence.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 19, 2014 04:42 PM (DmNpO)

91 Saw a 71 Maverick with hood intakes at a thrift store just now. Very nice shape-- classic plates, so somebody's taking care of it.

Posted by: --- at April 19, 2014 04:42 PM (MMC8r)

92 A Maverick Grabber it was, now that I've refreshed my memory.

Posted by: --- at April 19, 2014 04:44 PM (MMC8r)

93 Mopar was to front suspensions as Delco was to car stereos and Lucas was to wiring harnesses

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:44 PM (aTXUx)

94 Yet he used considerably more words to say what you just said in one sentence.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's
------------------

That is because I did not use four or five paragraphs of rationalizations, false premises, false assumptions, and projected self-loathing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:46 PM (aDwsi)

95 I don't see the 221 listed as a 'stang motor. See it was dropped in 1963 anyway.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 04:46 PM (N0lXV)

96 Mopar was to front suspensions as Delco was to car stereos and Lucas was to wiring harnesses

Posted by: kbdabear

You got something against torque bar suspensions, buddy?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:47 PM (aDwsi)

97 Wow, just got a flyer in the mail from a Ford dealership 50 miles away. Promising $2k over KBB and I see the value they are quoting is less than $22k.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 04:47 PM (JgpFm)

98 85 I think the 240 V8 was a flathead.

Mustang did have the 260.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 04:39 PM (xq1UY)

The 64 1/2 intro model had the 260, they tossed that for the 289 when production of the 65s came out

IIRC, the Ford flathead was 239 cubic inches

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:49 PM (aTXUx)

99 Heh. I wonder if anyone every hot-rodded a 221? Knowing American youth, I think I can safely guess 'Yes'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:49 PM (aDwsi)

100 Mavericks had one of the worst fuel cap/fill setups ever, similar to early Mustangs but worse.

Impossible to fill one without spilling fuel on the bumper.

I had a Maverick in snow country though and the donuts were awesome, esp with 4 people in the car.

Posted by: scottst at April 19, 2014 04:49 PM (Fp9Vt)

101 I did my daughters brakes today. WTH is wrong with the current generations males? I'm still working on both my daughters cars even they both have husbands.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 19, 2014 04:49 PM (BJpOW)

102 Dammit, I just want a vehicle inspector in the Houston/Harris County area willing to take the obdII computer's word for it and ignore those shiny "test pipes" where the previous owner removed the cats on my pos 98 Camaro, grumble grumble grumble.

Posted by: Bob in Houston at April 19, 2014 04:50 PM (b7AU3)

103 I'm still working on both my daughters cars even they both have husbands.

Posted by: The Hickster
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They need the time for texting...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:51 PM (aDwsi)

104 Geez. Pop a cold one so I could take the doggeh out back & I missed a desperate troll? Didn't i see mention of one on the garden thread, too?
I miss all the fun. Maybe I should stop trying to live IRL.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 19, 2014 04:51 PM (vztUc)

105 You got something against torque bar suspensions, buddy?


Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:47 PM (aDwsi)

Oh not at all, I kind of enjoyed weighing 160 lbs and having the car list like a 300 lb sumo wrestler owned it

Don't ask me about Mopar ball joints and tie ends.. just don't

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:51 PM (aTXUx)

106 I'm still working on both my daughters cars even they both have husbands.


Posted by: The Hickster at April 19, 2014 04:49 PM (BJpOW)

You ought to invite them over to help. Make it one of those difficult to refuse invites.

Posted by: Retread at April 19, 2014 04:52 PM (cHwk5)

107 Losing your soul to a ginger isn't entirely a BAD thing.


Speaking from personal experience.


Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 04:42 PM (SAMxH)



Having lost my soul to at least two so far, I must agree whole-heartedly.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 04:52 PM (yh0zB)

108 There's a radical hotrod guy here who is building something with the baby 60 horse Ford V-8. Wikipedia says 136 cubes. The car looks like an aircraft, but not as much as the one posted earlier.

Posted by: scottst at April 19, 2014 04:52 PM (Fp9Vt)

109
Ford flathead displacements, iirc, ranged from 136 to 337.

Mercury used a 255 cid, that made them very popular.

Lincoln was top dog.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 04:53 PM (SAMxH)

110 Don't ask me about Mopar ball joints and tie ends.. just don't

Posted by: kbdabear
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* sits quietly. waits for IG to step up to the plate *

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:53 PM (aDwsi)

111
You got something against torque bar suspensions, buddy?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 04:47 PM (aDwsi)



60-62 Chevy/GMC pickups had them, too.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 19, 2014 04:53 PM (yh0zB)

112 I did not know Ford offered a 4.2l V8 in 1980 for the Mustang as well as the LTD.

Apparently good mileage but beaten by a hamster in a wheel for power.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 04:54 PM (N0lXV)

113 102 RockAuto.com has cat for that car for $128. It's where I buy all my parts and I'm always impressed by their selection and prices.

Posted by: scottst at April 19, 2014 04:55 PM (Fp9Vt)

114 102 Dammit, I just want a vehicle inspector in the Houston/Harris County area willing to take the obdII computer's word for it and ignore those shiny "test pipes" where the previous owner removed the cats on my pos 98 Camaro, grumble grumble grumble.

Posted by: Bob in Houston at April 19, 2014 04:50 PM (b7AU3)

Even a small exhaust leak will alter the backpressure and throw off the O2 sensor enough to make the engine run rich enough to burn your eyes

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 04:55 PM (aTXUx)

115 You ought to invite them over to help. Make it one of those difficult to refuse invites.>>

Might work with one of them the other I'd likely end up dropping the car on though.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 19, 2014 04:55 PM (BJpOW)

116 92
A Maverick Grabber it was, now that I've refreshed my memory.

Posted by: --- at April 19, 2014 04:44 PM (MMC8r)

Here is the 1972 Maverick Grabber. Yes it has hood intakes, but they are only ornaments. Not functional. From the thread you should be able to guess how I know.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/338342.php

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 04:56 PM (T2V/1)

117
Any tie rod needs regular lubrication, contrary to what the manufacturer tells you. Using parts with lube capability will forestall many unfortunate occurrences.

Torsion bars need to be used in a properly maintained suspension--ie the shocks should be adequate and the bar adjustment correct.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 04:59 PM (SAMxH)

118 Nood up.

Posted by: tbodie at April 19, 2014 04:59 PM (1zmtP)

119 Tell you what is sure to have happened, Hammer: Bonneville. Studebaker made one V8 block, in (counts on fingers) five different displacements. In what we have come to call the "post-production era," some unstable individuals have gone hunting for LSR classes where there is a record open, and built stock-size engines that never were. Thus the 232 Avanti. You destroke, see, and boy do they rev.

I'm unwilling to believe Ford guys don't do that too.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 05:00 PM (xq1UY)

120 Heh. Re Ford 221. Check the banner at the top of this Hot Rod. Stop the presses!
http://tinyurl.com/o9hxz8m

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 05:00 PM (aDwsi)

121
It should be further noted that lubing appropriate suspension parts and not running the car into deep potholes or over curbs is considered proper driving procedure.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 05:03 PM (SAMxH)

122 Tell you what is sure to have happened, Hammer: Bonneville. Studebaker made one V8 block, in (counts on fingers) five different displacements.
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As far as I know ( and I may be wrong) Pontiac only built designed *one* V8. Not sure about cubes, but 326, 389, 421 come to mind..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 05:03 PM (aDwsi)

123 Scottst@113, yeah found some replacements but it means a minimum of $200 for the cats, whatever for the labor if my fat ass has trouble getting the car up high enough to get them installed on the end of the long tubes, then whatever to have a nerd retune the 'puter to run with them rather than without.

kbdabear@114, the only exhaust leaks on it is the big one at the end of the single outlet SLP "Big Mouth" exhaust, My 99 Tahoe exhaust smells worse and its got all its cats and all 4 of its O2s, car has been tuned to run mid 12s like it is and until its LS1 finds its final resting place in my other project car, I need to be able to move it around from place to place without spending a ton of cash, just bitchin in general, I knew what I was getting into with it.

Posted by: Bob in Houston at April 19, 2014 05:08 PM (b7AU3)

124 The Mercury flathead had a good reputation for longevity. We used to seek them out to transplant into our dump trucks, when the piston-holes finally wore oblong. They were reputed to have larger main bearings. There was a time, in this country, when you could make a living with a single-axle truck rated at 90 HP.

I have also seen them find a home in Caterpillar model 60's.

I have a big 1953 truck with a Reo Gold Comet, 331 c.i., rated 124 HP. It was King of the Road.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 05:09 PM (xq1UY)

125 The 69 Firebird was available with two versions of a 400 cbi engine.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 05:09 PM (T2V/1)

126 122 - Hmmm. found a table, needs verification:
287
317
347
370
389
421
326
428
400
350
455

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 19, 2014 05:10 PM (aDwsi)

127 I think the 240 cu in ford in the Mustang was a straight 6 cyl. The 260 V8 was the smallest V8 in a mustang

Posted by: Cicero Skip at April 19, 2014 05:10 PM (FIrEF)

128 Truck engines did not follow in the same line as the car engines.

In fact some folks would take truck engines and put them in stock cars for more torque.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 19, 2014 05:14 PM (JS0vr)

129 Yes the 240 was a straight 6. Friend of mine had one in his Maverick.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 05:17 PM (T2V/1)

130 Posted by: scottst at April 19, 2014 04:55 PM (Fp9Vt)

I've found stuff there that I never thought I'd be able to get as cheaply. (figured factory parts at triple price)

And they have a well designed easy to use site. No repeatedly entering your freaking make, model, engine etc. just drill down the menus.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 19, 2014 05:19 PM (JS0vr)

131 just as an aside; nood up.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 19, 2014 05:20 PM (JS0vr)

132 Mustang was designed around the 200 Six, and in 1969 they offered it as a 250.
The 240 was based on the 170. I'd been told the pickup-truck 300 was a big 200, but on-line resources say it was based on the 240. I had bad luck with the 240.

A Mustang 200 with tri-power would have been a very pleasant car to drive.
Six weight: 285 pounds.
289: 465 pounds
390: 560 pounds.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 05:22 PM (xq1UY)

133 Greetings car experts.

My 6 year old VW Eos needs new tires. It's a low-mileage car (only 29,600 miles) and mostly used for errands around town and pleasure trips in the country. Any suggestions on how to find the right tires for it?

I know how to find the size etc, but what I'm looking for is how to identify tires that will have good ride characteristics (quiet road noise and good handling) at a competitive (ie: cheap) price.

I've seen some tires at Costco for about $350/4 (with something like a 65K mi tread warranty). My dealer quoted me close to $500/4 for a iirc 30K mi tread tire.

Posted by: Y-not at April 19, 2014 05:24 PM (zDsvJ)

134 I should add that I don't think I need 80000 mile lifetime tires. But I do want quiet tires.

Posted by: Y-not at April 19, 2014 05:24 PM (zDsvJ)

135 I spotted this in a Hardees parking lot:

An uncle of mine had one of those, but it was the six-cylinder with a column shift. That thing seemed bulletproof, it just kept on going and going.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 19, 2014 05:28 PM (q1EOg)

136 y-not
Tire Rack dot com has a good tire selector

Posted by: Cicero Skip at April 19, 2014 05:31 PM (FIrEF)

137 I know how to find the size etc, but what I'm looking for is how to identify tires that will have good ride characteristics>>

Unless you spend big bucks and aren't racing you probably wont notice the ride characteristics between common tires. Tire wear warranties will give some clue as to how hard the tire is. To increase wear resistance the tire "rubber" tends to be harder so will feed back road roughness a little more.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 19, 2014 05:31 PM (BJpOW)

138 Almost forgot: sidebar on "Pit Stops, then and now." Sure takes me back.
For one thing, by rule a modern F1 cannot exceed two hours duration.
The 1950 Indy 500 was about five hours long. You had time for a break.

Then again, maybe drinking milk at the end of one, and showering in Moet at the other, had something to do with the motivation.

When the new, exciting Cosworth Fords replaced Offenhausers, the price tag of $50,000 per engine suitably impressed us all. Now, the base budget for one year in F1 is a billion. Makes for very fast pit stops. Good racing? Only occasionally.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 19, 2014 05:35 PM (xq1UY)

139 My experience with high mileage tires is the rubber gets real hard as the tire ages and traction got away. Had a 1980 full size Merc. wagon with tire that looked like new but could not accelerate for shit in any accumulation of snow.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at April 19, 2014 05:35 PM (FIrEF)

140 Correct me if I am wrong. Tires with a greater mileage rating uses a harder rubber compound which translates to a bit more of a noisy ride?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 05:48 PM (JgpFm)

141 The wheels on the Buick look like ass.


Posted by: Dick (@DicksTrash) at April 19, 2014 03:46 PM (GrtrJ)

If the car was otherwise good, and priced right, I'd love to buy it. Then show up with the cash, and a set of 215-75R15's on steel wheels, swap on the good wheels, then make a heap of the donk rims in the guy's yard, pour gasoline on 'em and light it. Then drive off, whistling.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2014 05:52 PM (6z+tx)

142 ...then make a heap of the donk rims in the guy's yard, pour gasoline on 'em and light it.

I never understood the appeal of that look. Large diameter wheels with a really, really low-profile tire?

My opinion only, but a person that "customizes" their car that way has to be a Grade A moron.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 19, 2014 06:22 PM (q1EOg)

143 I'm inching closer to building an old Ford model A. I have a line on a pretty clean '31 coupe, so I'll have a nice steel body to play with. In a perfect world I would find a clean roadrunner body for that 440 6-pack motor I have, but that may take awhile.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 19, 2014 06:32 PM (FMbng)

144 Thank you, car people!

Posted by: Y-not at April 19, 2014 06:38 PM (zDsvJ)

145 Well, off to the shop to try to finish the brake job on the Suburban.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2014 06:51 PM (6z+tx)

146 Anyone who drives a pickup truck is a racist redneck who hates our President. Unless they are an oppressed Hispanic who came here for better economic opportunities and is now exploited by a racist system that ultimately only benefits the Wall Street machine and its "international bankers".

A nice ideologically correct car is either a Prius, a Leaf, or a Subaru Forester station wagon. All three vehicles have space for bumper stickers where you may proclaim your allegiance to the progressive cause like loyal citizens should.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at April 19, 2014 07:09 PM (Pb41/)

147 If you like cars and live in OC, check out Cars and Coffee 7:30 every Saturday morning at the Mazda HQ near the El Toro "Y" (parking at Taco Bell HQ next door). Couple hundred classic cars (varies from week to week), old and new. Also coffee and donuts.

Posted by: OCBill at April 19, 2014 07:09 PM (VCCXE)

148 1. Dead ford abandoned next to some pos crossover designed by people that use dental floss as blinders.

2. Colored persons ebt car.

3. Professional idiots limo, slow as hell and dangerous at any speed.

4. Homo San Fran bathhouse bedroom.

5. Sandnegro douchbag drifting machine.

6. Some good looking bitch that probably likes guys with tats.



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