Open Thread for Politics 4-19-14 [WeirdDave]

Well, the garden thread was supposed to be a parody sing along themed one, but that went south in a hurry. However, it just so happens I have a song I wrote to the tune of “Bonnie Blue Flag” back when the Tea Party was new, and that one goes great in an OT political thread. Here's the original song if you're not familiar with it, it was almost as popular as “Dixie” in the CSA. From the movie Gods and Generals:

"We are a band of brothers
And native to the soil,
Fighting for the property
We gained by honest toil;
And when our rights were threatened,
The cry rose near and far--
"Hurrah for the Gadsden Flag
Fly proudly from our spar!"

CHORUS: Hurrah! Hurrah!
Individual rights hurrah!
Hurrah for the Gadsden Flag
Fly proudly from our spar.

While the D.C elite,
Were faithful to their trust,
Like friends and like brothers
Both kind were we and just;
But now, when Federal treachery
Attempts our rights to mar,
We hoist on high the Gadsden Flag
Fly proudly from our spar.--CHORUS

First gallant Rick Santelli
cried out from the exchange,
The people followed quickly,
rejecting this new "change".
Alaska's native daughter,
inspired many more
All raised on high the Gadsden Flag
Fly proudly from our spar.--CHORUS

Ye men of valor, gather round
The banner of our fight;
From home to halls of Congress
The statist foe we smite.
We shall oppose the president,
his cronies and his tzars;
Now rally round the Gadsden Flag
Fly proudly from our spar.--CHORUS

And then in old Virginia--
progressives met their fate--
Along with blue New Jersey
showed reforms can not wait;
Impelled by their example,
Now other states prepare
To hoist on high the Gadsden Flag
Fly proudly from our spar.--CHORUS

Then cheer, boys, cheer;
Raise the joyous shout,
The two-ten midterms proved our case
There is no remaining doubt;
And let another rousing cheer
For freedom's light be given,
"Don't tread on me" from the Gadsden Flag
Flies proudly from our spar.--CHORUS

Then here's to our Republic,
Strong are we and brave;
Like patriots of old we'll fight
Our rule of law to save.
And rather than submit to shame,
To die we would prefer;
So cheer for the Gadsden Flag
Fly proudly from our spar.--CHORUS

Open thread

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:26 AM

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1 Oh lord, you've done it now. I see flame war all day.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 09:59 AM (T2V/1)

2 Slow commentary today.

Posted by: Cato at April 19, 2014 10:04 AM (J+mig)

3 BTW WeirdDave, I have two covers of that song. One by Bobby Horton and another by the Rebelairs.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 10:08 AM (T2V/1)

4 Are comments down?

Posted by: Y-not at April 19, 2014 10:12 AM (zDsvJ)

5 No

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 10:15 AM (T2V/1)

6 Full Bush LongBows!

Posted by: DaveA at April 19, 2014 10:16 AM (DL2i+)

7 Since I have the soapbox practically to myself I'd like to let y'all in on a little secret before I take off into the beautiful day outside.

President Obama and all his little minions are bad people.

There, I've finally got that off my chest and I feel loads better. Thanks for listening.

Posted by: MTF at April 19, 2014 10:19 AM (F58x4)

8 I am not sure my great great grandfather would be too happy about the Bonnie Blue Flag song being rewritten with a Yankee flag mentioned.

http://tinyurl.com/kmwx5sn

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 10:19 AM (0FSuD)

9 >>6 Full Bush LongBows!

Golf and cheerleading are both sports!

Posted by: Y-not at April 19, 2014 10:20 AM (zDsvJ)

10 1 Oh lord, you've done it now. I see flame war all day.

Should liven up the day then, no? Besides, I said not one thing about Southern mores. I just like the tune, so I stole it. There's a great scene in The Horse Soldiers where the corps of cadets marches out against John Wayne's Yankee cavalry (playing Bonnie Blue Flag). The Yanks, unwilling to fire on children, retreat. One of them drags a Southern drummer boy up to Wayne "I've captured one sir! What should I do?". Wayne roars "Spank him!".

Posted by: Weirddave at April 19, 2014 10:20 AM (N/cFh)

11 Posted by: MTF at April 19, 2014 10:19 AM (F58x4)

It's pretty amazing how many people are unable to wrap their heads around something that basic and obvious.

Posted by: Cato at April 19, 2014 10:20 AM (J+mig)

12 10 One of them drags a Southern drummer boy up to Wayne "I've captured one sir! What should I do?". Wayne roars "Spank him!".

Posted by: Weirddave at April 19, 2014 10:20 AM (N/cFh)

I remember that movie and that scene. Loved it.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 10:22 AM (T2V/1)

13 128 from thread below >>But on second thought, why spends tens of thousands fighting an illegal
executive order for a low margin fast food joint? Shut it down and tell
Obama to kiss your ass. Instead of a normal wage they will get zero
wage.

Vic, might as well move the discussion up here. That's what the already announced closed places said in plain English. With many more to come, if they cannot get a waiver.

So what else will happen? Traffic will go way up for going off base to get their fast food fixes, dumping many extra pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere thereby displeasing Gaia. Not to mention the increased costs to military personnel to have to do extra driving. And their kids will now need to be transported off base to find starter jobs, or do without.

And keep in mind they are trying to kill off the commissaries as well.

The genius of the Progressives should leave us all in awe, or something.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 19, 2014 10:26 AM (5n7tL)

14
Welcome to "the mode of communication employed by the right wing to convey their fringe stories into legitimate subjects of coverage by the mainstream media"

Posted by: King Leonidas at April 19, 2014 10:26 AM (e8kgV)

15 WHOA! French Actresses Cat Fight!

"Hollande's affair: Catherine Deneuve and Sophie Marceau in war of words over President's relationship with Julie Gayet" (h/t Drudge)

LINK (Independent-UK) http://preview.tinyurl.com/kn5lxfe

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 10:26 AM (JBggj)

16 One last Drudge link to warm your hearts. Antonin Scalia is a great American:

http://cbsloc.al/1mlmYie

Posted by: MTF at April 19, 2014 10:26 AM (UjSt7)

17 New stompy stomp up

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 10:27 AM (T2V/1)

18 Since I'll be busy this weekend, here is a preemptive Happy Easter to everyone!

http://politicalhat.com/?p=5598

Posted by: The Easter Hat at April 19, 2014 10:27 AM (AymDN)

19 @10

I am just fucking with you. It is a good tune and yes I DO have a Bonnie Blue flag on my car.

Happy Easter! Lent is over at noon, drink up!

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 10:28 AM (0FSuD)

20 OT for the OT thread: The Real History of Science Fiction starts tonite on BBCA at 10 PM.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at April 19, 2014 10:30 AM (Nk6GS)

21 And keep in mind they are trying to kill off the commissaries as well.

The genius of the Progressives should leave us all in awe, or something.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 19, 2014 10:26 AM (5n7tL)

I don't expect they will ever see any waivers. It will be just like the Keystone Pipeline.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 10:30 AM (T2V/1)

22 I know several people who were extras in "Gods and Generals". Parts of it were filmed not all that far from The Casa de Monkey. Although MD was a Union state, I've heard that CSA sympathies ran deep in my part of the State.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 19, 2014 10:32 AM (jucos)

23 22
I know several people who were extras in "Gods and Generals". Parts of
it were filmed not all that far from The Casa de Monkey. Although MD was
a Union state, I've heard that CSA sympathies ran deep in my part of
the State.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 19, 2014 10:32 AM (jucos)

If I recall my history correctly MD largely sided with the South and considered itself a southern State. The State legislature was considering a vote for secession and Lincoln had the entire legislature arrested and jailed to prevent that.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 10:43 AM (T2V/1)

24 Reposted from the now-abandoned morning thread:

110 For something to do on a gloomy mid-atlantic Saturday morning, some fun from a progressive website. How progressive are you?

http://tinyurl.com/bwpcphd

I scored 62. Staunchly conservative or something like that. Ha!

Posted by: golfman60 in NC browsing on Opera at April 19, 2014 09:56 AM (vVOWk)

I scored 86, "extremely conservative".

Huh. I thought a lot of my 0 and 10 answers reflected more libertarian positions.

Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2014 10:44 AM (sdi6R)

25 The cemetery in eastern MD where my parents are buried has both U.S. and Confederate flags on the veterans' graves.

Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2014 10:46 AM (sdi6R)

26 Rickl. If you're not a full blown prog, you must be an evil conservative.

Posted by: golfman60 in NC browsing on Opera at April 19, 2014 10:53 AM (vVOWk)

27 The tune was originally known as "the Irish Jaunting Cart". The number of lyrics written to it is long. One version is "The Irish Volunteer".

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 19, 2014 10:58 AM (DM5Ao)

28 On a much lighter note, for those of you who like the GS cookies called Samoas Keebler has a new cookie out now that tastes almost the same. It is a coconut cookie with the coconut stuff on the inside instead of the outside.

You can have the same cookie without the bad political connections.,

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 11:25 AM (T2V/1)

29 If I recall my history correctly MD largely sided
with the South and considered itself a southern State. The State
legislature was considering a vote for secession and Lincoln had the
entire legislature arrested and jailed to prevent that.
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Yes. And the Baltimore Riot on April 19, 1861 with the intent of cutting RR service (troop trains) from the North to Washington DC.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 11:32 AM (JBggj)

30 Yes. And the Baltimore Riot on April 19, 1861 with the intent of cutting RR service (troop trains) from the North to Washington DC.

Which gave us the casualties of the war (not counting the soldier who died after Ft. Sumter surrendered, that was an accident, not combat).

Posted by: Weirddave at April 19, 2014 11:37 AM (N/cFh)

31 I am looking into putting together a first aid kit/med supply stash for the household. Can anyone point me towards a list of necessities?

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 19, 2014 11:45 AM (pljWy)

32 A survey meant to gauge interest among enlisted women for submarine service is going out to the fleet.

Every enlisted woman in the Navy will receive an invitation to take the voluntary survey, which asks questions about everything from their career aspirations to their opinion on how switching to subs would affect their career.

The survey was sent to reservists March 31 and to active-duty women a day later — more than 57,000 enlisted women, all told.

The task force overseeing the integration of the silent service’s enlisted ranks had received about 8,000 responses as of April 9.

???

The only question should be: Does having women on Subs make us a better fighting Force, Yes or NO. Nothing else matters

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2014 11:50 AM (t3UFN)

33 31

Red CRoss recommended. This is pretty close to what we had in our kit at work (that I had to enventory monthly)

http://tinyurl.com/bxr9z6w

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 11:52 AM (T2V/1)

34 31 I am looking into putting together a first aid kit/med supply stash for the household. Can anyone point me towards a list of necessities?
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 19, 2014 11:45 AM (pljWy)

Duct tape. Great for when surgical re-attachment just isn't an option.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 19, 2014 11:52 AM (oMKp3)

35 Grey Fox,

http://tinyurl.com/m9prean

Covers scrapes to unnatural holes in your body.

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 11:53 AM (QeH9j)

36 It seems the Canucks are a tad pissed off at the Long Legged Mac Daddy because of the XL pipeline delay.

But hey! More oil trains for the LLMD's butt boi Buffet and higher fuel costs for us. What a great country.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 19, 2014 11:53 AM (thLL8)

37 32 The only question should be: Does having women on Subs make us a better fighting Force, Yes or NO. Nothing else matters

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2014 11:50 AM (t3UFN)

It should have less impact than putting them on Aircraft Carriers. Submarines have almost zero privacy so less chance of them getting pregnant.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 11:54 AM (T2V/1)

38 To the Red Cross list I would add

Anti-diarrhea medications
Anti-fungals
Antihistamines
Eye wash

Posted by: grammie winger at April 19, 2014 11:55 AM (oMKp3)

39 Yes or NO. Nothing else matters

It's about abortion!

Posted by: N.O.W. at April 19, 2014 11:55 AM (xx0aH)

40 I am looking into putting together a first aid kit/med supply stash for the household. Can anyone point me towards a list of necessities?

Many common antibiotics can be purchased at pet med supply houses. They are exactly the same as human prescription meds at 1/10 the cost and no scrip required. Go figure.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 19, 2014 11:56 AM (thLL8)

41 38 Posted by: grammie winger at April 19, 2014 11:55 AM (oMKp3)

Didn't think about eyewash because we had separate eyewash stations.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 11:56 AM (T2V/1)

42 I've heard super glue is good to have in a first aid kit. Good for closing and sealing cuts, etc.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 11:57 AM (xx0aH)

43 Seems my list doesn't include any medications.

Posted by: RWC at April 19, 2014 11:59 AM (QeH9j)

44 Many common antibiotics can be purchased at pet med supply houses. They are exactly the same as human prescription meds at 1/10 the cost and no scrip required. Go figure.

Many antiinflammatories, steroids, pain meds, anti seizure meds, etc Exactly the same at least in the case of most canine medications. Not so for feline meds. Cats are weird and so are their biological systems.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 19, 2014 11:59 AM (oMKp3)

45 Thanks, all.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 19, 2014 12:01 PM (pljWy)

46 42 I've heard super glue is good to have in a first aid kit. Good for closing and sealing cuts, etc.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 11:57 AM (xx0aH)

True and you can reattach broken tooth caps. Super glue and Duct tape are a must in a first aid kit.

If you have room, Kotex are good to have. Will absorb more blood from a large wound.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 12:05 PM (0FSuD)

47 After watching that Indian PSA at the sidebar I have to take the poo to the loo.

Posted by: Juan McCain at April 19, 2014 12:15 PM (GgPam)

48 Where's all the young boys at?

Posted by: Hairy Reid at April 19, 2014 12:15 PM (GgPam)

49 Kind of slow.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 12:19 PM (xx0aH)

50
I have just received word that a friend of my daughter and son inlaw, has committed suicide. He's a young father and has 2 little ones at home. A very sweet young man, he had been suffering from depression. Please pray if you would. Thank you all.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 19, 2014 12:23 PM (oMKp3)

51 I just took a look at RDBrewer's Disney+Wheddon+Firefly link.

Mal holds a sword. No revolvers in Disney's Brave New World?

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 12:24 PM (JBggj)

52 Sorry to hear, G.W.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 12:25 PM (xx0aH)

53 Disney Firefly animation twitter is linked in the AOSHQ sidebar.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 12:27 PM (JBggj)

54 I was a wilderness EMT so I carry a lot of prescription shit in my dop kit, besides my first aid kit.

Cipro, Z pack, Lomotal, Hydrocodone 7-325, Percadin, Phenergan suppositories(when you have really bad nausea/food poisoning you can not keep a pill down), Chelxaral sp? antibiotic for flesh wounds, cough drops, at LEAST two dose packs Methaprozone, good for any inflammation, Transaderm Scoop patches for sea sickness, tooth repair kit, Valium, ear plugs, matches, thermometer, small leatherman, glasses repair kit. Aspirin, Advil, a small bottle of iodine, it will purify water, 3 drops to a quart. Bandaids, etc.

Some Vaseline in a tube and that's about it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 12:29 PM (0FSuD)

55 50 Posted by: grammie winger at April 19, 2014 12:23 PM (oMKp3)

Prayers

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 12:29 PM (T2V/1)

56 @54

Oh, and super glue and a small maglite with duct tape wrapped around it and extra batteries.

Eagle scouts are not to be toyed with.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 12:33 PM (0FSuD)

57 Stompy Boots Saturday

http://pix77.com/sexy-girls-in-boots/hot-girls-in-boots-33

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 12:33 PM (aTXUx)

58 It seems the Canucks are a tad pissed off at the Long Legged Mac Daddy because of the XL pipeline delay.
Darn right! I was going to get a job polishing pipeline but now Obama's ruined those plans until 2015!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 19, 2014 12:34 PM (hn5v5)

59 @57

Hey, that's the same girl that brings in my trash can.

WTF? Who took her picture?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 12:34 PM (0FSuD)

60 Sorry about the news of the suicide of the friend of your daughter and son-in-law. Prayers for his family and friends. Depression is a cruel disease.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2014 12:35 PM (XyM/Y)

61 23 -

Not true. Lincoln did not have the entire legislature arrested. Some members of the state legislature MIGHT have been arrested, as various rabble rousers during that time were.

The state legislature actually voted down secession.

I know a lot of people still think Lincoln was a monster, but it doesn't help your case when you use false information.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2014 12:37 PM (BeSEI)

62
51 I just took a look at RDBrewer's Disney+Wheddon+Firefly link.Mal holds a sword. No revolvers in Disney's Brave New World?
Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 12:24 PM (JBggj)

Mal does use a sword in one episode for a duel. Also look closer. On his right leg is his holstered pistol.

Posted by: buzzion at April 19, 2014 12:44 PM (LI48c)

63 61 Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2014 12:37 PM (BeSEI)

The book I read simply said they arrested the legislature. Here is a writeup from the State archives,

True the initial vote failed. But they intended to remeet for more action. Lincoln had the Army arrest the "pro-southern" members of the legislature which was probably a plurality.

http://tinyurl.com/lr2v7km

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 12:46 PM (T2V/1)

64 I much prefer Bonnie Red Flag.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 19, 2014 12:48 PM (Dwehj)

65 This article say "pro-secessionists" made up app 2/3 of both houses.

http://tinyurl.com/llyr73z

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 12:50 PM (T2V/1)

66 Another Stompy Boots Saturday Open Thread Compliance Pic

http://pix77.com/sexy-girls-in-boots/hot-girls-in-boots-25

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 12:53 PM (aTXUx)

67 "The state legislature actually voted down secession."

The legislature voted against secession and voted against re-opening RR links to the North. The state representatives wanted a neutral state, denying the North the ability to stage military operations from Maryland. Lincoln figured enough was enough and crashed the party with fixed bayonets and arrest warrants.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 12:53 PM (JBggj)

68 Mal does use a sword in one episode for a duel. Also look closer. On his right leg is his holstered pistol.
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I don't see a gun, an ammo belt or a grenade anywhere. And what's with the cutlass? I recall the duel episode, the sword was either an epee or rapier of some sort. I'm thinking that we're about to get Sinbad in Space instead of a true Firefly II.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 12:58 PM (JBggj)

69 I don't see a gun, an ammo belt or a grenade anywhere. And what's with the cutlass? I recall the duel episode, the sword was either an epee or rapier of some sort. I'm thinking that we're about to get Sinbad in Space instead of a true Firefly II.
Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 12:58 PM (JBggj)

Well the artwork is fake anyways. And the gun is there. You see that belt he's wearing? That's the belt for his gun. He doesn't wear a belt to keep his pants up. That's what the suspenders are for, because he wears a gun belt. the holster is hard to see because its the same color as his coat. But it is there, as is his holstered gun.

Posted by: buzzion at April 19, 2014 01:02 PM (LI48c)

70 68 And what's with the cutlass?

HEY!!!
I have my cutlass mounted about 5ft away
don't make me cut a fool!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:07 PM (krmE0)

71 LOL @ ace's easter egg tea and & stationary for the kids.

I'd take the stationary and draw a giant penis on it and give it to the idiot that thought of this plan.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 01:08 PM (x3YFz)

72 gm, I was just thinking about you
me and nck were watching a fan react video of the bears/packers game

we are hoping they meet last week with 15-1 records
settle it again

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:10 PM (krmE0)

73 speaking of easter....
why is it chicks always eat the chocolate bunny ears first and put the rest in the fridge until it becomes a science experiment?

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:12 PM (krmE0)

74 He doesn't wear a belt to keep his pants up. That's what the suspenders
are for, because he wears a gun belt. the holster is hard to see
because its the same color as his coat. But it is there, as is his
holstered gun.
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Uh huh. And where does he tuck away his Sinbad cutlery when he's singing a song? In a .... scabbard? I just can't imagine Disney coming out with a gun-slinging, grenade-tossing, blood-dripping space western.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 01:12 PM (JBggj)

75 If I hear 1 more Pat Tillman story I'm going to kill a kitten.

FF happens. It's unfortunate, regrettable, and sad. But when ONE guy is a poster child for it, it makes my skin crawl.

When you're trying to take cover behind a pebble and there's bullets whizzing past your head, you act on the last best intel you received.

It's a 'wrong place/wrong time' 'life ain't fair' 'shit happens when things go boom' event. It is what it is.

Investigations into it are generally quick and to the point: bad info. No one shoots a friendly on purpose.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 01:16 PM (x3YFz)

76 the corps of cadets marches out against John Wayne's Yankee cavalry

Doesn't VMI or the Citadel have a battle honor on the Corps of Cadets flag for doing just that?

Of course, it's a CSA battle honor.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 19, 2014 01:16 PM (cHwSy)

77 I've got ninety-nine problems but a birch ain't one of them. Isn't that right, Chief?

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at April 19, 2014 01:17 PM (Mogjf)

78 Proves the camera crew wasn't gay ...

NEWS/ Kate Upton Was Nervous to Shoot The Other Woman Bikini Scene: "A Bunch of People Were Staring at Me"

http://tinyurl.com/kqxfead

Posted by: kbdabear at April 19, 2014 01:18 PM (aTXUx)

79 75 When you're trying to take cover behind a pebble

ha!!! reminds me of when my cats try to hide behind my iPhone while getting ready to pounce

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:18 PM (krmE0)

80 speaking of easter....
why is it chicks always eat the chocolate bunny ears first and put the rest in the fridge until it becomes a science experiment?

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:12 PM (krmE0)

Not this chick. Any chocolate bunny handed to me is done for.

Posted by: Vendette at April 19, 2014 01:19 PM (7yt0b)

81
75 "No one shoots a friendly on purpose."
And yet I saw that very thing on a thread right here yesterday

Posted by: MAx at April 19, 2014 01:21 PM (b7yum)

82 VMI. Battle of New Market 1864. Franz Sigel, a political choice (Grant wanted John Sedgewick to command the Shenandoah operation) came a cropper.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 01:21 PM (JBggj)

83 @76

The Battle of New Market, Yankees routed by college kids.

http://tinyurl.com/quajqy

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 01:24 PM (0FSuD)

84 76 Doesn't VMI or the Citadel have a battle honor on the Corps of Cadets flag for doing just that?

Of course, it's a CSA battle honor.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 19, 2014 01:16 PM (cHwSy)

Don't know about fighting union cavalry (or VMI) but Citadel cadets were involved in numerous military actions during the late unpleasantness. That includes the initial action against Fort Sumter.

They have what is known as "battle streamers" as I recall.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 01:24 PM (T2V/1)

85 74 He doesn't wear a belt to keep his pants up. That's what the suspenders
are for, because he wears a gun belt. the holster is hard to see
because its the same color as his coat. But it is there, as is his
holstered gun.
======
Uh huh. And where does he tuck away his Sinbad cutlery when he's singing a song? In a .... scabbard? I just can't imagine Disney coming out with a gun-slinging, grenade-tossing, blood-dripping space western.
Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 01:12 PM (JBggj)

Well they're not. Because that image is just fan art anyways.

I was just pointing out that yes Mal is armed with his gun.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 19, 2014 01:25 PM (LI48c)

86 80 T was like that when I gave her normal sized ones
now I buy these giant bunnys and its the ears go fast

I have to toss them at the girls to ensure I don't lose fingers

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:25 PM (krmE0)

87 Interesting read in the sidebar. Always wondered what Cuppola had planned for the "Godfather" prequels.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 01:28 PM (xx0aH)

88 I was just pointing out that yes Mal is armed with his gun.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 19, 2014 01:25 PM
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Buzz, no one has greater respect for your expertise in all things Firefly than I do. Huzzah for Buzz!

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 01:29 PM (JBggj)

89 Battle of New Market Day at VMI.

Dixie on bagpipes!

http://tinyurl.com/kc5lbgd

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 01:31 PM (0FSuD)

90 VMI Rat day.

Look how young this kids are. Note Women rats!!

http://tinyurl.com/krzrgk2

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 01:38 PM (0FSuD)

91 Chi-town Jerry,we're at Sobelmans in MKE. Good call!!!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 19, 2014 01:48 PM (OYe5i)

92 It's not politics...
but guess who just received their Federal C&R license in the mail about ten minutes ago.

Go ahead.....guess.

20 days from application to receipt of license.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 19, 2014 01:53 PM (hDwVv)

93 Does a C&R do anything past allowing you to receive some firearms directly? I guess you don't have to submit to background checks afterward?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 02:04 PM (xx0aH)

94 To whomever posted that "Always Faithful" link in the sidebar, thank you.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 19, 2014 02:06 PM (vztUc)

95 It's not politics...
but guess who just received their Federal C&R license in the mail about ten minutes ago.

Go ahead.....guess.

20 days from application to receipt of license.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 19, 2014 01:53 PM (hDwVv)

Gratz!

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 02:31 PM (x3YFz)

96 Ricardo
Pretty much what you said.
But the firearms in question must be C&R eligible.

Nicest thing is the direct shipment from an out of state location,directly to my home.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 19, 2014 02:32 PM (hDwVv)

97 VMI Rat day.

Look how young this kids are. Note Women rats!!

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 01:38 PM (0FSuD)

Every time I see an O-2 or a butterbar I think: "cheeze and crackers, we're in the hands of babes."

But some of them do pretty well. Some.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 02:33 PM (x3YFz)

98 We'll see. There's no doubt Christianity is growing fast in China.

It's already in the top 10 largest Christian nations by raw #s. And there's decent odds it could become #1 in our lifetime.

This is raw #s, not %.

China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years | via @Telegraph http://fw.to/seAOZck

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:34 PM (ZPrif)

99 And yet I saw that very thing on a thread right here yesterday

Posted by: MAx at April 19, 2014 01:21 PM (b7yum)

You're making a mistake. Not equivalent. Even remotely.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 02:34 PM (x3YFz)

100 ha!!! reminds me of when my cats try to hide behind my iPhone while getting ready to pounce

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 19, 2014 01:18 PM (krmE0)

cats? (shakes his head in sorrow for Navy) sigh...

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 02:36 PM (x3YFz)

101 we'll see
---
Christian congregations in particular have skyrocketed since churches began reopening when Chairman Mao’s death in 1976 signalled the end of the Cultural Revolution.

Less than four decades later, some believe China is now poised to become not just the world’s number one economy but also its most numerous Christian nation.

“By my calculations China is destined to become the largest Christian country in the world very soon,” said Fenggang Yang, a professor of sociology at Purdue University and author of Religion in China: Survival and Revival under Communist Rule.

“It is going to be less than a generation. Not many people are prepared for this dramatic change.”

China’s Protestant community, which had just one million members in 1949, has already overtaken those of countries more commonly associated with an evangelical boom. In 2010 there were more than 58 million Protestants in China compared to 40 million in Brazil and 36 million in South Africa, according to the Pew Research Centre’s Forum on Religion and Public Life.

Prof Yang, a leading expert on religion in China, believes that number will swell to around 160 million by 2025. That would likely put China ahead even of the United States, which had around 159 million Protestants in 2010 but whose congregations are in decline.

By 2030, China’s total Christian population, including Catholics, would exceed 247 million, placing it above Mexico, Brazil and the United States as the largest Christian congregation in the world, he predicted.

“Mao thought he could eliminate religion. He thought he had accomplished this,” Prof Yang said. “It’s ironic – they didn’t. They actually failed completely.”

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:36 PM (ZPrif)

102 No, congrats, VIA. That takes some hassle out of it. You a big collector of milsurps?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 19, 2014 02:39 PM (xx0aH)

103 “Mao thought he could eliminate religion. He thought he had accomplished
this,” Prof Yang said. “It’s ironic – they didn’t. They actually failed
completely.”

***

That's only ironic if you're Alanis Morrisette.

Posted by: cool arrow at April 19, 2014 02:39 PM (7XKHI)

104 China is already 6th or 7th largest Christian nation, in raw #s, with about 70M, about 5% of China.

Top 5 are
US
Brazil
Mexico
Philippines
Nigeria

Due to population growth Nigeria will rise in coming decades.

Nigeria is 5th most Christian and 6th most Muslim. Which is why I predict Nigeria will not survive as a country and will have to split into two countries along religious lines. Honestly they should do so now and save the bloodshed. The longer they wait to split, the bloodier the civil war will be.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:41 PM (ZPrif)

105
Butterbars.

Armed with a map, arguably the most dangerous species existing today.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 02:42 PM (SAMxH)

106 That's only ironic if you're Alanis Morrisette.

I can't believe that song got as big as it did. I mean, shit, a no talent hack like myself and it just blew up. That's the ironic part.

Posted by: Alanis Morisette at April 19, 2014 02:43 PM (xx0aH)

107 I'm somewhat surprised that Hindu Nationalists have been better at suppressing Christianity in India than Chicoms have in China.

But it's probably a fight fire with fire situation.\

I do expect increasing push back from the Chicoms -- they already fought one civil war over Christianity -- Taiping Rebellion, incredibly bloody.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:44 PM (ZPrif)

108 Butterbars.

Armed with a map, arguably the most dangerous species existing today.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 02:42 PM (SAMxH)

Your platoon will either find a battalion of the enemy, likely right in the middle of them, or wander in the woods for weeks.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 02:45 PM (x3YFz)

109 @ 108

Only wandered the better part of a day, until we sat him down and explained map reading and orientation.

Did fine after that, but we missed our objective.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 02:48 PM (SAMxH)

110 There is significant historical evidence, and my anecdotal experience that most service crosses and medals of honor are conferred following this statement from an NCO to an officer:

"I wouldn't do that if I were you, sir."

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 02:49 PM (x3YFz)

111 In Nigeria the growth in Christianity (and Islam) is due to the insanely high fertility rate and population growth. Nigeria is set to be 3rd largest nation after India and China.

In China the growth of Christianity is mostly due to conversions.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:49 PM (ZPrif)

112 China is already 6th or 7th largest Christian nation, in raw #s, with about 70M, about 5% of China.
====
South Korea is getting up there, too.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2014 02:50 PM (JBggj)

113 In Nigeria the growth in Christianity (and Islam) is due to the insanely high fertility rate and population growth. Nigeria is set to be 3rd largest nation after India and China.

In China the growth of Christianity is mostly due to conversions.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:49 PM (ZPrif)

our population growth rate is nil. hmmm wonder why? Wouldn't be the free abortions,would it?

It costs $0 to kill a child in this nation and about $50K to adopt one.

Orphanages no longer exist... "remanded to child services" where the kids are abused for government $$.

Ace asked how fd up this country is? Well, start with that.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 02:55 PM (x3YFz)

114 Yeah, but SKorea's population is only 50M (and shrinking due to no babies). SK is about 1/3rd Christian now and my understanding is that % is fairly stable. The days of super growth are in the past. So SKorea has about 15M Christians.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 02:55 PM (ZPrif)

115 "You a big collector of milsurps? "

No, just starting out.

Retired Navy with a very large collection of Milsurp hand tools.
But they always discouraged people from giving Snipes firearms.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 19, 2014 02:55 PM (hDwVv)

116 we tried to adopt domestically. Couldn't. A firewall of red tape, lawyers and liberal do-gooders stood between us.

$50k. at least.

My wife and I have, between us, more degrees than a thermometer, perfect credit scores, no criminal history whatsoever. Income is quite sufficient.

but: nope. No white people are allowed to adopt.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 02:58 PM (x3YFz)

117 Nigeria will not survive as a country and will have to split into two countries along religious lines. Honestly they should do so now and save the bloodshed.

They tried in the late 60's - it was called "Biafra"

Posted by: Fox2! at April 19, 2014 02:59 PM (cHwSy)

118 Got a couple of Enfields. Had a Carcano and a Ishapore that I gave to my dad. Always thought I needed to get a K31 and a Moisin of some kind. Want a Springfield. Could probably stand some old S.A. Mausers too.

Posted by: Alanis Morisette at April 19, 2014 02:59 PM (xx0aH)

119 Sock fail.

Posted by: Alanis Morisette at April 19, 2014 02:59 PM (xx0aH)

120 In most countries a large minority, and usually a majority, of people are inherently religious. They are seeking something.

For the religious seekers of the world it's increasingly coming down to two choices: Christianity or Islam.

Islam does the best at preventing other religions getting a foothold in territories where it is dominant -- mainly by murdering Christians, Buddhist, Hindus, atheists, etc.

Christianity does the best, by far, at conversions.
Hinduism and Judaism do very poor at conversions since they both are more ethnic religions than universal religions.

Buddhism is somewhat holding it's own, but it has a hard time resisting conversions from Christianity and bullying from Islam.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:00 PM (ZPrif)

121 tango -- that does suck.

The Left wants open borders -- except for adoptions.
You are allowed to just bring a baby into the country no questions asked -- as long as you do it illegally and your family goes on Medicaid and food stamps.

No paperwork or $ for an anchor baby.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:03 PM (ZPrif)

122 No paperwork or $ for an anchor baby.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:03 PM (ZPrif)

Technically, an anchor baby can't be brought into the country, it must be born in this country; however, in the spirit of love, this is probably no longer a requirement!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 19, 2014 03:10 PM (o3MSL)

123
In my safe deposit box are 2 .36 cal Navy Colts. One I bought from a seller and the other at a garage sale.

The garage sale Colt was wrapped in some kind of paper, heavily tarred. The nice old lady said that it was a family possession, she didn't know what it was, just that it was "some sort of gun" and she didn't want it around.

I paid her $25 for it.

Took 3 weeks of cleaning to discover what was underneath the protective coating.

I had it verified by Colt as authentic but never got around to having it evaluated--yet.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 03:13 PM (SAMxH)

124 122 Hrothgar at April 19, 2014 03:10 PM (o3MSL)

I wonder if future generations will be able to understand the theoretical underlying tension in the film Starman given that he was just here for love folks...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2014 03:13 PM (TE35l)

125 But some of them do pretty well. Some.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 02:33 PM (x3YFz)

Key word. Some.

I think you have to admire their effort. The military just needs to give up on the physical shit, let them break code, etc.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:14 PM (0FSuD)

126 Fastest growing religions by births per yr
#4 and #5 are being rapidly swallowed by Christianity and Islam.

1. Christianity 22,708,799
2. Islam 21,723,118
3. Hinduism 13,194,111
4. Ethnoreligionists 4,098,003
5. Animists 3,985,506

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:14 PM (ZPrif)

127 Maybe this will summon a new thread. Or strike many in the Horde blind.

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/selection-du-weekend-84-39.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:15 PM (JgpFm)

128 I paid her $25 for it.

Took 3 weeks of cleaning to discover what was underneath the protective coating.

I had it verified by Colt as authentic but never got around to having it evaluated--yet.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 03:13 PM (SAMxH)

Robbing widow women. Just another Republican H8ter.

I H8te you for finding it before I did.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:15 PM (0FSuD)

129 127 Maybe this will summon a new thread. Or strike many in the Horde blind.

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/selection-du-weekend-84-39.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 19, 2014 03:15 PM (JgpFm)

Is this the answer to "where the white women at"

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:16 PM (0FSuD)

130 126 Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:14 PM (ZPrif)

I wonder where "enviro-religionists" would rank if they'd admit what they are?

Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2014 03:17 PM (TE35l)

131 I paid her $25 for it.

Took 3 weeks of cleaning to discover what was underneath the protective coating.

I had it verified by Colt as authentic but never got around to having it evaluated--yet.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 03:13 PM (SAMxH)

I am sure you got a pistol permit for the purchase right?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:17 PM (0FSuD)

132 "Technically, an anchor baby can't be brought into the country, it must be born in this country; however, in the spirit of love, this is probably no longer a requirement!"

They can only be brought into the country as "Internal Stores load"

Once they shift to "hanging off an external hardpoint" while in the US, they get to stay.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 19, 2014 03:18 PM (hDwVv)

133 Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2014 03:13 PM (TE35l)

All you need is love.

Love is all you need!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 19, 2014 03:18 PM (o3MSL)

134 The five fastest growing religions by conversions (new adherents per year, in millions):

1. Christianity 2,501,396
2. Islam 865,558
3. Buddhism 156,609
4. Sikhism 28,961
5. Baha'is 26,333

Hinduism sucks at conversion -- the world's biggest ethnic religion.

As India's birth rate keeps coming down, the conversion advantage that Christianity and Islam have over Hinduism will really start to change India.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:18 PM (ZPrif)

135 131 Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:17 PM (0FSuD)

Not needed if it is a black powder Colt 1851 or 1861 Navy .36...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2014 03:19 PM (TE35l)

136 My son got his MBA at Duke. All the Asian students showed up with a pregnant wife. Drop one first semester, then drop one at graduation.

The graduation need babysitters.

MBA?? Make Baby in America!

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:20 PM (0FSuD)

137 Yeah, a fair bit of the growing non-religions are really eco-culters.

Their #s are small, but they have a huge effect since they a concentrated among the Ruling Class.

Environmentalism is basically the State religion in most of the West at this point.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:21 PM (ZPrif)

138 135 131 Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:17 PM (0FSuD)

Not needed if it is a black powder Colt 1851 or 1861 Navy .36...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2014 03:19 PM (TE35l)

Cool, I still hate you! What a neat gun.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:21 PM (0FSuD)

139 @ 131

"Pistol permit".

That's cute.

Seriously, historical and muzzle loading firearms made before 1898 are exempt. This covers replicas also.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 03:22 PM (SAMxH)

140 The Left wants open borders -- except for adoptions.
You are allowed to just bring a baby into the country no questions asked -- as long as you do it illegally and your family goes on Medicaid and food stamps.

-
I saw P-Lousi washing the feet of illegal aliens like Abortion Jesus. I'll bet her hands were dirtier than their feet.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at April 19, 2014 03:22 PM (Mogjf)

141 I figure I'll just stir the pot a little and tug on AtC's and MWR's capes a little. Did you see where the SciFi channel has a new movie on tonight called "Big Ass Spider"? Lots bigger than a face sized spider.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 19, 2014 03:23 PM (vVSOO)

142 Car thread up

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 19, 2014 03:24 PM (ojnk6)

143 Hinduism loses almost 700k adherents per year due to conversion.

The 13M Hindu babies each year make up for it. But that birthrate keeps going down.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:25 PM (ZPrif)

144 It should have less impact than putting them on
Aircraft Carriers. Submarines have almost zero privacy so less chance of
them getting pregnant.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2014 11:54 AM (T2V/1)

Several years ago, a sub returned from deployment to San Diego. When it came back in, something like 60% of the crew had the clap. Fearing all the jokes about "80 guys go out and 40 couples come back" were true, an investigation was done. Important to note that this sub did not make any liberty port calls. Turns out, someone had brought an inflatable "friend" on board and "she" had gotten passed around.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 19, 2014 03:26 PM (vn9w4)

145 "Pistol permit".

That's cute.

Seriously, historical and muzzle loading firearms made before 1898 are exempt. This covers replicas also.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 19, 2014 03:22 PM (SAMxH)

In NC ALL pistol transfers, private or public require a "pistol permit" issued by the Sheriff.

No exceptions.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:27 PM (0FSuD)

146 Environmentalism has done well converting the Ruling Class, but history suggests organized religion will figure out a way to respond and co-opt that.

Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism are all millenia old -- modern Environmentalism is only about 50, and you're already seeing a fair bit of pushback.

The big, old religions have a track record of surviving and defeating threats like Environmentalism.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:30 PM (ZPrif)

147 In India, Christianity has spread the most among the poorest, most despised underclasses. They have the least invested in the Hindu system. They also have the highest birth rates.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:33 PM (ZPrif)

148 The military just needs to give up on the physical shit, let them break code, etc.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:14 PM (0FSuD)

Wait.

Let me put on my reflective belt and make sure my sleeves aren't rolled up.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 03:39 PM (x3YFz)

149 In NC ALL pistol transfers, private or public require a "pistol permit" issued by the Sheriff.

No exceptions.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 19, 2014 03:27 PM (0FSuD)

wow.

I've traded firearms for labor and vice versa over the years. I have (at the bottom of the reservoir, due to that unfortunate fishing incident) about 10 totally untraceable weapons.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 03:41 PM (x3YFz)

150 The big, old religions have a track record of surviving and defeating threats like Environmentalism.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:30 PM (ZPrif)

Environmentalism doesn't offer much except getting rich if you are an eco-procurer like Al Gore, or the thought that you can think you are doing good for generations you will never live to see as you huddle in the dark and cold of your cave.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 19, 2014 03:43 PM (o3MSL)

151 Change of socks.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 19, 2014 03:45 PM (Mogjf)

152 Yeah, I hope nobody scrimped on heating oil or coal or wood back in the 1910s or 1810s so I can have extra power for my XBox, SUV, and iPhone.

That would have been a really stupid sacrifice to make.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 03:51 PM (ZPrif)

153
Environmentalism doesn't offer much except getting rich if you are an eco-procurer like Al Gore, or the thought that you can think you are doing good for generations you will never live to see as you huddle in the dark and cold of your cave.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 19, 2014 03:43 PM (o3MSL)

The kids (as in the 18-24) are already rebelling.

Popcorn, anyone?

Having said that, it's the googleytes and glassholes that think they're smart, but aren't, who'll have the toughest time.

Posted by: tangonine at April 19, 2014 03:56 PM (x3YFz)

154 Yeah, crazy cults like Environmentalism can sweep into power for a generation or two -- much harder to last for hundreds or thousands of years.

The Eco-jihadis have been remarkably successful at converting the Ruling Class. A lot of it is that it's basically a warmed over nature cult so it's tapping into some pagan, animist religiosity.

But Christianity has a pretty good history of defeating pagans and animists.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 19, 2014 04:07 PM (ZPrif)

155 Asian students from Duke become good productive citizens

That's not the problem we're facing

It's the dependent shitheads I'm worrying about

Posted by: TexasJew at April 19, 2014 04:35 PM (U+u4A)

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