Surprise: CTU Head Karen Lewis Rallied the Occupy Crowds

"For the children." Don't forget this. It's for the children.

I'm also re-posting this stuff from the previous post, because I added it late.

What Are They Striking Over? Not pay. They're specifically striking in opposition to 1, strict evaluations of their performance and 2, shockingly, their demand that bad teachers, previously laid off for poor performance, be rehired.

Let me note this very obvious but underappreciated fact: The most loyal troopers for any union are the worst performing at their actual jobs. And the union, in return, is most loyal to them.

Think about it: People who are doing their jobs well do not need the union as much, if at all. They might be pro-union, but at the end of the day, people who are good at their jobs know two things:

1. It is unlikely they will be fired or laid off. Well, in a normal economy it's unlikely. Even in this economy, it's less likely.

2. Even if they were, for some reason, fired or laid off, they would have a reasonable expectation of finding new employment after a short time of unemployment. Again, with the caveat: In a normal economy.

So, who really, really needs the union to fight like hell for bad workers? The bad workers do, of course.

And who then provides the unions with their most fervent shock troops? The bad workers-- because they are under small illusion about their employability without a union fighting to keep them in their jobs, despite their incompetence.

This is why the unions are so against evaluations and performance review -- while there are good teachers in the union, the good teachers are not the real clients of the union.

The real clients of the union are the bad teachers.

Consider performance-based pay. Now, in any group, one third of the people will get more money. One third will neither get less nor get more. One third will, in a regime in which pay is based on performance, get less.

So, in any union, there should not really be a firm opinion on merit-based pay. There is no overwhelming majority against it, nor for it. It breaks pretty evenly into pro/neutral/anti.

And yet the teachers unions are always stridently against merit-based pay. Why? Because their real clients are the bottom-feeders, the most marginal of workers.

The higher-performers know they really don't need the union -- and the union knows they know that.

Their dedicated shock troops, their most fervent street-beaters, are those who know that without a union, they wouldn't have a job, period.

I look at these videos of angry, spit-foaming chanters in the street and I don't hear their stupid rhymes. I hear one thing: I'm hanging by a thread and I know it.

Posted by: Ace at 04:11 PM

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1 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2012 04:13 PM (6o4Fb)

2
Surprise!

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2012 04:13 PM (9Q7Nu)

3 My God, it's full of fat.

Posted by: Dang at September 11, 2012 04:13 PM (R18D0)

4 Let's not be hasty to jump to conclusions here.

Posted by: David Frum, no-conflict conservative at September 11, 2012 04:13 PM (60GaT)

5 Surprise: CTU Head Karen Lewis Rallied the Occupy Crowds
—Ace

"For the children." Don't forget this. It's for the children.

_________________

She should probably wear a bra--"for the children!"

Posted by: tasker at September 11, 2012 04:14 PM (r2PLg)

6 Talk to the hand, if you can get it to stay still long enough.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2012 04:14 PM (d0Tfm)

7 Shorter Karen Lewis: Bring more Ho-Hos.

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 11, 2012 04:14 PM (Iyg03)

8 Is this a quasi-doublepost?

Posted by: toby928© at September 11, 2012 04:14 PM (QupBk)

9
Super PAC needs to make an ad:

Show these bloated toothless slugs.

Two Words:

Ungrateful.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2012 04:14 PM (9Q7Nu)

10 Well this is a HELL of a lot better than those stupid fuckin' cheerleader pictures you assholes post.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at September 11, 2012 04:15 PM (jucos)

11 I bet she makes quite an "impression"

in the Earth's crust.

Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2012 04:15 PM (5H6zj)

12 Free birth control and sex change operations for the children!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 11, 2012 04:15 PM (/YJYi)

13 I guess it's a re-emphasis on low performers, and the morbidly obese, but mostly, the obese.

Posted by: toby928© at September 11, 2012 04:15 PM (QupBk)

14 I hear one thing: I'm hanging by a thread and I know it.

Is there a NOOSE? Say it Ace. SAY IT!!!!

Posted by: Chris Matthews, Racial Dogwhistle Detector at September 11, 2012 04:16 PM (QKKT0)

15 or an ad showing this, then showing Obama's comments on OWS, then his no-comment on this situation, or something.

wacist

Posted by: JParker at September 11, 2012 04:16 PM (60GaT)

16 You know, despite everything that's bad in the country and world right now, there's one thing that gives me so much joy. What is it?

I'm filled with hope and light and joy to know that I'm witnessing the downfall of the modern labor union, ESPECIALLY public sector unions. All I have to do is meditate on that, and suddenly the shit sandwch we get served with every new employment report starts to taste like ambrosia.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at September 11, 2012 04:16 PM (4df7R)

17 Karen, ya know what else goes "from the bottom up"? An enema. Ya might want to give one, or a dozen or so, a shot because you are full of shit.

Posted by: Dang at September 11, 2012 04:16 PM (R18D0)

18 8 Is this a quasi-doublepost?
Posted by: toby928© at September 11, 2012 04:14 PM (QupBk)

____________________

Half hearted and one handed...

Wait!!

Don't tell me Ace Fapped to THAT!!

Posted by: tasker at September 11, 2012 04:16 PM (r2PLg)

19 Listen to her at 0:54 say "These people owe a lot to the people on the street, you don't make money by yourself". In other words, "You didn't build it".

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 11, 2012 04:17 PM (QB3JR)

20
today's "educators," ladies and gentlemen

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2012 04:17 PM (9Q7Nu)

21 10, Rosie, welcome to the Sharp-Elbow-Free Zone.

Posted by: jakeman at September 11, 2012 04:17 PM (96M6e)

22 I still think a lot of this is orchestrated theater. To achieve what, I don't know now, but I expect we'll find out.

Not to go all Fred Thomson on y'all, but I don't think Tinkerbull even takes a dump without a plan.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at September 11, 2012 04:17 PM (BIJKO)

23 She so fat, when she wears a Malcolm X jacket helicopters try to land on her.

Posted by: USS Diversity at September 11, 2012 04:17 PM (0CiTm)

24 Mmmm. Karen Lewis.

Posted by: The Guy Who Used To Dig Janet Napolitano But Now Digs Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (QKKT0)

25 Don't tell me Ace Fapped to THAT!!

The slow "blade" penetrates the flab.

Posted by: gurney halleck at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (QupBk)

26 What a freakin cow. Guess it'sdifficult to get your make-up on correctly when your head is one big fat bubble.

Posted by: Infidel at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (O/fK8)

27 Honest to God, this bottom up bullshit is everywhere. Also, Karen Lewis got no business making fun of anyone's lisp.

Posted by: huerfano at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (bAGA/)

28
In every season, Jack Bauer uncovers some anti-American scumbag in CTU.

Posted by: Z Ryan at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (YvuFk)

29
Look for my Karen Lewis bio-pic coming in 2013! Naturally I will be playing Karen Lewis. Got a space onthe mantel for my Oscar!

Posted by: Tyler Perry at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (wIgpo)

30 Consider performance-based pay. Now, in any group, one third of the people will get more money. One third will neither get less nor get more. One third will, in a regime in which pay is based on performance, get less.

That assumes the performance being graded on a curve (to make up for the non-normal distribution, compared to society at large, of the below-par workers in a shitty field).

Education majors are the bottom of the barrel. Most of them are sub-par and most of them are incompetent and unable to carry out their basic tasks, which are fairly simple and straightforward. It's not totally their fault. Most are too dumb to be able to perform their jobs well.

Teacher's unions are strong because most teachers are idiots. Lowest mean scores of any department. LOWEST. And yet we allow these near-retards to make decisions on what standard curricula should be? WTFFF?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (X3lox)

31 Is it hypocritical for someone who makes way over six figures to be down here with us?

Posted by: Said no OWS protestor ever at September 11, 2012 04:19 PM (/YJYi)

32 Correct response from Rahm (I know he won't give it):

"The Chicago Teachers' Union is striking over the following things: a mere 16% raise over 4 years. Objective evaluation standards which will help ensure that your children are receiving the best possible education. The fact that Chicago refuses to re-hire teachers already found, even under the current lax standards, to be poor performers.

So I have negotiated with the private schools and charter schools within the city. It will be tight, but your children will at least receive some amount of instruction from these fine institutions until the current dispute is resolved. The money that would be going to pay the teachers over this period will be diverted to defray the costs of the charter schools and private schools."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 04:19 PM (8y9MW)

33 do we have a snappy comeback using stuff like this when libs say "trickle down?"

like "pissing up" maybe. piss-in-your-face economics

Posted by: JParker at September 11, 2012 04:19 PM (60GaT)

34 That's no moon...

Posted by: cajun carrot at September 11, 2012 04:19 PM (UZQM8)

35 Thank you Karen for keeping me master of my domain.

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 11, 2012 04:19 PM (fLk7W)

36 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 04:19 PM (8y9MW)

37 "You don't make money by yourself" sounds a lot like "You didn't build that.." Can we fire them all like Reagan did? In related news ... flashback 1988 - Dukakis up 17, young Republican in panic mode (I was 19.)

Posted by: Mac Gootbone at September 11, 2012 04:20 PM (XCSw/)

38 this womyn is bat shit crazy

Posted by: phoenixgirl, still angry & ever vigilant at September 11, 2012 04:20 PM (U+ve5)

39 It falls right in to the SCOAMT and his regimes philosophy. This is the era of the loser.

Posted by: Soona at September 11, 2012 04:20 PM (Np7es)

40 CTU? We put bacon on it!

Posted by: KFC at September 11, 2012 04:21 PM (FUozQ)

41

In the video, Lewis said:

"...An equitable distribution of wealth...is the American Way."

*cough*
*gag*
Oh Lord, we simply have got to win this election this year.

Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 04:21 PM (LdrIf)

42 I had quite a few teachers like her when I was a kid. Fat, angry, sloppy and slovenly in appearance. The classroom was always cluttered and on the edge of spinning out of control. And these "teachers" ALWAYS sucked.

I can see why they're scared of having to meet some standards.

Posted by: Dang at September 11, 2012 04:21 PM (R18D0)

43 19 countrysquire,

You did that is the hot new mantra....

Guess the CTU Adylum is being briefed by express snail.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 04:21 PM (LRFds)

44 She's so fat that it takes her 10 minutes just to take a leak and that's because it takes her so long to line the holes up.

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 11, 2012 04:21 PM (QB3JR)

45 Rahm remember what happened when the Daley machine failed to clear the streets of snow. If the CTU keeps striking as they have, do like Reagan.

"Members of the Chicago Teachers Union, you have 48 hours to return to your schools. Failure to comply will result in automatic termination of all pay and benefits including retirement. Plus a ten year ban on any city department hiring you."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 04:21 PM (FsGME)

46 There will always be a need in this world for the drawers of water and the storers of fat.

Posted by: Stuff Jefferson Said, Vol III anotated at September 11, 2012 04:22 PM (QupBk)

47 27 Honest to God, this bottom up bullshit is everywhere. Also, Karen Lewis got no business making fun of anyone's lisp.
Posted by: huerfano at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (bAGA/)

In their world, change supposedly comes from the bottom up.

In my world, change comes from the bottom line.

Must be nice for them...

Posted by: cajun carrot at September 11, 2012 04:22 PM (UZQM8)

48 37

the problem is from what i understand Bush turned things all the way around at the 1988 RNC and led from there

not saying Romney-Ryan can't pull it off -- it's still real close -- but i have been getting nervous cuz they can't seem to pull into any consistent lead, they're always a little behind

Posted by: JParker at September 11, 2012 04:22 PM (60GaT)

49 41 wheatie,

or get the divorce.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 04:22 PM (LRFds)

50 She's so fat, her belt size is equator.

Posted by: CUS at September 11, 2012 04:22 PM (84pE9)

51 That bitch has her own event horizon.

Posted by: Cicero at September 11, 2012 04:22 PM (QKKT0)

52 CTU? Place has more moles than a prairie field.

Posted by: Jack Bauer at September 11, 2012 04:23 PM (B/VB5)

53 >>"These people owe a lot to the people on the street, you don't make money by yourself". In other words, "You didn't build it".

Precisely. This is a perfect opportunity to hang the CTU strike around Obama's neck. A commercial with a nice side-by-side of Lewis and Obama telling small business owners "you didn't build that" would be quite nice.

Posted by: angler at September 11, 2012 04:23 PM (SwjAj)

54 Man, CTU has really gone to pot without Jack Bauer.

Posted by: JDTAY at September 11, 2012 04:23 PM (a0nis)

55 Ace of Spades--now with more anti-FAP!

Posted by: tasker at September 11, 2012 04:23 PM (r2PLg)

56 Behold the face of Chicago politics. Anyone surprised by the thuggery of the Obama administration need look no further. This is the well from which it sprung.

Did I say "well"? I meant "hell".

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 11, 2012 04:23 PM (P6QsQ)

57 this womyn is bat shit crazy
Posted by: phoenixgirl, still angry ever vigilant at September 11, 2012 04:20 PM (U+ve5)

Don't you be thinkin' that gettin' me thinkin' about yummy bat guano quesadillas will stop me from fightin' for the chillens!

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:23 PM (ggRof)

58 I'll bet she sounds like a gooey chainsaw when she sleeps.

Posted by: Cicero at September 11, 2012 04:23 PM (QKKT0)

59 That woman is literally living off the Fat of the Land. Living Large is what I'm saying.

Posted by: Speller at September 11, 2012 04:23 PM (J74Py)

60 Being an ugly, fat, angry and stoopid commie is no way to go through life.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2012 04:24 PM (vbh31)

61 Karen Lewis? Lightweight.

Posted by: Michael Moore at September 11, 2012 04:24 PM (96M6e)

62 Some idiot in the background is holding up a sign that says, "Capitalism is failing, Socialism is the alternative."

Just the optics they need.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2012 04:24 PM (d0Tfm)

63
MWR,
I'm not sure we are getting rid of public service unions but hope you are right.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (R8hU8)

64 Some idiot universe is missing it's-

Jabba the Hut.

Posted by: tasker at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (r2PLg)

65 Meta double-post.

Did I use "meta" right?

Posted by: eleven at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (KXm42)

66 I'll bet she uses a dialing wand.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (ZPuY0)

67 Funny how those Occupy protests where they ranted about taking power away from "the machine"... were run by "the machine"...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (XvHmy)

68 If Obama hasn't come out to do some organizin' on their account, you know their goose is cooked.

You don't strike a few weeks into a new school year, and you don't turn down a raise in a fucked economy like this.

There will be no mercy. Only reason Rahm is pissed is he's gonna have to go Walker on his own...

Posted by: cajun carrot at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (UZQM8)

69 O/T -- Does CAC know another dem nominee for congress from MD 1resigned over voter fraud?

http://bit.ly/QFegvW

Posted by: RushBabe at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (tQHzJ)

70 Damnit -

^its^

Posted by: tasker at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (r2PLg)

71 55 Ace of Spades--now with more anti-FAP!

I saw what you *didn't* do there.

Posted by: jakeman at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (96M6e)

72 I wonder what the odds are she could fit into a Volt. And if by some miracle and hydraulic assist it could move under its own power.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (tf9Ne)

73 "Members of the Chicago Teachers Union, you have 48 hours to return to
your schools. Failure to comply will result in automatic termination of
all pay and benefits including retirement. Plus a ten year ban on any
city department hiring you."

-------

That last sentence? - never gonna happen in Chicago. The city charter specifically requires incestuous graft and corruption.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 11, 2012 04:25 PM (P6QsQ)

74 I don't want to say she's fat, but I heard that Karen Lewis's existence is forcing scientists to recalculate the gravitational pull of the earth.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 04:26 PM (8y9MW)

75 Content so nice it appears twice!

Seriously, you make a very good point. The people screaming the loudest are those who know that they'll be the first to go.

Posted by: cranky-d at September 11, 2012 04:26 PM (GsXbZ)

76 "The Chicago Teachers' Union is striking over the following things: a mere 16% raise over 4 years. Objective evaluation standards which will help ensure that your children are receiving the best possible education. The fact that Chicago refuses to re-hire teachers already found, even under the current lax standards, to be poor performers. So I have negotiated with the private schools and charter schools within the city. It will be tight, but your children will at least receive some amount of instruction from these fine institutions until the current dispute is resolved. The money that would be going to pay the teachers over this period will be diverted to defray the costs of the charter schools and private schools."

---------------------------------------------------

I hate to disagree with you here, but the assumption that Rahm is against the unions is false. One doesn't get to be CoS in the SCOAMT regime and then go on to become the mayor of Chicago without being one with the unions.

Posted by: Soona at September 11, 2012 04:26 PM (Np7es)

77 Ha. There is a vid of the protest that shows them doing what they do.

At first i was impressed that they had homemade signs....until you notice that the 'homemade' signs are duplicated many times over. Basically a copy of an original.

Fail.

Posted by: RWC at September 11, 2012 04:26 PM (7Ab5Q)

78 This union president is my kind of scum: fearless and inventive.

Posted by: Jabba the Hutt at September 11, 2012 04:26 PM (QKKT0)

79 You know, so you've got this woman, Karen Lewis right. And she's big. Bigger than me even. And she's assertive, and this frightens the right wing. Shakes 'em up a bit. They don't like a fat black woman speaking Truth to Power because it threatens their corporate agenda. And that's why Obama wins in November

Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 11, 2012 04:26 PM (60GaT)

80 Time to put on my comfortable shoes and walk the line.

Posted by: Barak Huuuussein at September 11, 2012 04:26 PM (84pE9)

81 That bitch has her own event horizon.

And her own gravitational field, too. I'm surprised the camera crew was able to escape it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2012 04:27 PM (d0Tfm)

82 Did I use "meta" right?Posted by: eleven

Ace is just making us jump through his hoops.

Next you will be Twattering "OMFGBBQ! ICYMI: I'M SO GOP - SAID NO ONE EVER!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2012 04:27 PM (NRwWP)

83 Somewhere a personal scooter is enduring a living hell.

Posted by: Cicero at September 11, 2012 04:27 PM (QKKT0)

84 I wish I could show my solidarity with these heroic and valiant teachers fighting the man but it's rubber ducky time for me!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at September 11, 2012 04:27 PM (/YJYi)

85 JParker #33 the Scots say "Piss up yer kilt!"

Posted by: Speller at September 11, 2012 04:27 PM (J74Py)

86 Karen Lewis believes in 3 things : socialism, Marxism, and meats.

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:27 PM (fLk7W)

87 I'm filled with hope and light and joy to know that
I'm witnessing the downfall of the modern labor union, ESPECIALLY public
sector unions. All I have to do is meditate on that, and suddenly the
shit sandwch we get served with every new employment report starts to
taste like ambrosia.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter

I pray you are correct.
If the unions go, the money laundering to the dems goes.
Also a lot of voter fraud goes, and if the voter fraud goes, the dems go.
I think it's a three legged stool the dems sit on. The media, unions and "education".

Posted by: Dang at September 11, 2012 04:27 PM (R18D0)

88 Maybe we can convince Augusta National to let Myz Lewis in? Would that make it all better?

Posted by: jakeman at September 11, 2012 04:27 PM (96M6e)

89 I don't want to say she's fat, but I heard that Karen Lewis's existence
is forcing scientists to recalculate the gravitational pull of the
earth.

The center of the Earth's gravity is shifted 3 inches in her direction.

Posted by: eleven at September 11, 2012 04:28 PM (KXm42)

90 What is with the spastic hand gestures?

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 11, 2012 04:28 PM (ZPuY0)

91 She should 'Occupy' a treadmill.

Posted by: Robviously at September 11, 2012 04:28 PM (Ojkb+)

92 Irony Alert: She never could have gotten that fat in a communist system.

Posted by: Cicero at September 11, 2012 04:28 PM (QKKT0)

93 Lewis is obviously: (a) a Hut, and (b) a Marxist. Moreover, apparently she self-identifies as African-American.
For the record, I am a peg-legged Polynesian lesbian FTM.

Posted by: Thorvald at September 11, 2012 04:28 PM (1V6Pv)

94 She so fat, when she played basketball any ball passed to her would go into orbit.

Posted by: CUS at September 11, 2012 04:28 PM (84pE9)

95 Look for my Karen Lewis bio-pic coming in 2013! Naturally I will be playing Karen Lewis. Got a space onthe mantel for my Oscar!

Posted by: Tyler Perry at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (wIgpo)

Eh, you can have that role.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at September 11, 2012 04:28 PM (6LvlL)

96 Are they all bloated and fat like that? I hate to be so superficial, but so many of these corpulent teachers are swollen like giant rotting flotsam, ripe with filth and disease.

Posted by: Max Power at September 11, 2012 04:29 PM (q177U)

97 Why wasn't Romney talking about this two weeks ago!?

Posted by: Reality Czech at September 11, 2012 04:29 PM (/YJYi)

98
So that bad jobs report stayed in the news cycle for, what, 3/4's of one day?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2012 04:29 PM (9Q7Nu)

99 I wash myself with a rag, on a stick.

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (QupBk)

100
still waiting for The Balls...

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (9Q7Nu)

101 26 What a freakin cow. Guess it'sdifficult to get your make-up on correctly when your head is one big fat bubble.

Posted by: Infidel at September 11, 2012 04:18 PM (O/fK

What? Never heard of paint rollers?

Posted by: KFC at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (FUozQ)

102 Well, she does "occupy" a MacDonald's every morning.

Posted by: dantesed at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (1zsuM)

103
(no homo)

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (9Q7Nu)

104 Sometimes I wonder, "why did my parents bother raising me to be honest and industrious?"

Because, here I am, if I don't work, I don't eat. Worse, I'm stupid enough to insist on working for myself. I don't even get the luxury of just having to show up to collect a paycheck--I have to go out and make that paycheck happen.

And that bitch, making far more than I do, is without a worry. Because she has no compunction against taking what she didn't earn.

Am I a sap, a punk, a rube, a fool for playing by the rules?

What good are the rules when people like this are the only ones that seem to win?

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (imtbm)

105 I hate to disagree with you here, but the assumption that Rahm is
against the unions is false. One doesn't get to be CoS in the SCOAMT
regime and then go on to become the mayor of Chicago without being one
with the unions.

Two things:

1- I acknowledged he'd never make the statement. Of course he's on their side- or would be if he could find a way that wouldn't cost him more politically.

2- It's not impossible that they kind of caught him off guard on this one. He may have thought that the "rehire the already fired teachers" was as much a throw-away as the 24% increase demand, and thought that he could at least get continued negotiation by giving the teachers a pass on the first year's eval.

I don't think there's any disagreement that this looks bad for Rahm.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (8y9MW)

106 reminds me of fraggle rock....the trash heap has spoken

Posted by: phoenixgirl, still angry & ever vigilant at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (U+ve5)

107 This is very true, thank you for stating it so plainly.

Posted by: jocon307 at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (QDPDH)

108 another dem nominee for congress from MD 1resigned over voter fraud

Greatly exaggerated. * cough *

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (vbh31)

109 Off, Colonel Sandersock!

Posted by: jwpaine at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (FUozQ)

110 kill...me

Posted by: Karen Lewis' Hoveround at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (r7buw)

111 so many of these corpulent teachers are swollen like giant rotting flotsam, ripe with filth and disease.

Pure Poetry, Man.

Posted by: Austin Powers at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (PHb2k)

112 Nothing shows liberal hypocrisy quite as well as when teachers unions get a hair up there ass like this. For the kids, of course. Romney would be wise to push school choice hard.

Also, this is sending a shiver down Wisconsin's spine right now, I am sure.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (BfZ1r)

113 @19- Country Squire... good catch, heard the same thing.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (eNURf)

114 3 Hez b'allah members arrested in Mexico.

Sure am glad our borders are the safest they have ever been.

Posted by: RWC at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (7Ab5Q)

115 michelle really needs to talk to this person....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, still angry & ever vigilant at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (U+ve5)

116 So the thieves that run chicago are trying to steal from the teachers who are also thieves but they will continue to go on voting for them?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (05RcU)

117 Mama Winger, was riffing off what Reagan did. Last sentence probably never happen unless Rahm stays in power for a decade. If he squashes this ill-timed strike and gets the kids back in school, the voters just might vote him in for that long in appreciation since they would not have to deal with their juvenile crime-wave.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (FsGME)

118 Karen Lewis fun fact:

In a previous contract negotiation, one of Karen's adversaries once scoffed, "The world doesn't revolve around you!" Karen took it as a challenge.

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (RuVpG)

119 What good are the rules when people like this are the only ones that seem to win?

You wanna be her? That's winning?

Posted by: eleven at September 11, 2012 04:32 PM (KXm42)

120 Lewis? Isn't that french for Smegma Queen?

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at September 11, 2012 04:32 PM (SzAZ7)

121
Am I a sap, a punk, a rube, a fool for playing by the rules?

Yes.

btw, a bunch of us are going all bizzarro-mirror-universe if this election goes the wrong way.

If you can't beat them...

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2012 04:32 PM (9Q7Nu)

122 Karen Lewis?
Rahm Emmanuel?

Emmanuel Lewis!

Wheels within wheels, people.
Lemme put on some Giorgio Moroder.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2012 04:32 PM (NRwWP)

123 God forbid Karen ever decides to take a trip to Guam!

Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at September 11, 2012 04:32 PM (WGmy2)

124 In march 2010, I was desperate, desperate to stop Obamacare.

I emptied my checking account, jumped in my car, and headed to DC to personally lobby Congress, and obviously I was not alone.

The desperation I felt, I see in these peoples' eyes.

Desperation is the correct descriptor for this filthy mob.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone buffoon at September 11, 2012 04:32 PM (9Wbta)

125 Successful Teachers of America: You didn't build that. Lard-ass here, OWS and President Walking Shoes did.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 11, 2012 04:33 PM (i0vBR)

126 Am I a sap, a punk, a rube, a fool for playing by the rules?
Yes, remember John Galt

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 11, 2012 04:33 PM (R8hU8)

127 another dem nominee for congress from MD 1resigned over voter fraud

She only voted in Florida to help a friend out. But she can't remember if she voted for Obama twice. Toss her in jail, heck build a stockade to put her in and let her neighbors throw rotten vegetables at her.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 04:33 PM (FsGME)

128
If you can't beat them...

join them in their utter disregard for societal rules and etiquette and then beat them

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2012 04:33 PM (9Q7Nu)

129 96
Are they all bloated and fat like that? I hate to be so superficial, but
so many of these corpulent teachers are swollen like giant rotting
flotsam, ripe with filth and disease.

Imagine the health care costs for these "women?" Michelle, paging Michelle bring some lettuce and carrots to Chicago stat...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 04:34 PM (W2Z3C)

130 How many children has Karen Lewis consumed in her lifetime? Yeesh!

Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:34 PM (WGmy2)

131 this is sending a shiver down Wisconsin's spine right now, I am sure.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (BfZ1r)

-----------
The difference in the way the two adjoining states have handled their coddled teachers unions could not be more stark. Taxpayers in Illinois are looking with envy across the border, and wondering, "where's OUR Scott Walker?"

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 11, 2012 04:34 PM (P6QsQ)

132 I'll believe it's For The Children when public school teachers are willing to work for the same pay and benefits that my private, Christian school teachers made, or, well, didn't make is more accurate. Yeah, I grew up surrounded by people who actually viewed teaching as a ministry. I know the difference between those who claim it is and those who live it.

Funnily enough, the schools I attended always scored in the top 10% on standardized testing, despite having no money at all. This leads me to the conclusion that it can be done.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD you know you want me at September 11, 2012 04:35 PM (VtjlW)

133 How long did she yell before the "mic checks" started repeating her heavy breathing?

Mic check! "MIC CHECK!"

*huff...huff...ha-hang onna second...* "WHOOSH! WHOOSH! HANG ON A SECOND!"

Posted by: reason at September 11, 2012 04:35 PM (W2YA6)

134 Their dedicated shock troops, their most fervent street-beaters, are those who know that without a union, they wouldn't have a job, period.

_________________

I think Ace might be having a hard time.

Posted by: tasker at September 11, 2012 04:35 PM (r2PLg)

135 Just be glad you don't go to sleep every night in mortal fear of either being eaten while asleep or being smothered if she happens to roll over in the night.

Posted by: Mr Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:35 PM (/YJYi)

136 >>I still think a lot of this is orchestrated theater. To achieve what, I don't know now, but I expect we'll find out.

Possibilities:

1. The Rush Theory. This was organized with the blessing of the unions, Rahm, and the White House. They've secretly already reached a deal. Obama gets to come in and with a lot of theater brokers a deal to save the children.

2. A "Sister Soulja" moment. Obama told Rahm to play hardball. Obama will come out against "unreasonable" union demands, echoing his convention speech that we're all going to have to give up a little. Maybe make a play for independents, knowing that he'll be sticking his finger only in the eyes of people who'll vote for him anyway.

3. It's a swing state theory. He'll side with the unions, knowing it's unpopular with the public at large. While the union antics in Wisconsin and New Jersey hurt the unions, they didn't in Ohio, a must-have state. Maybe he figures standing up for the CTU will help him in Ohio.

4. Random chaos theory. This was not planned or orchestrated. This is toxic for Obama. He wants nothing to do with it.

I'm going with #4.

Posted by: angler at September 11, 2012 04:36 PM (SwjAj)

137 this is sending a shiver down Wisconsin's spine right now, I am sure. Posted by: Dave S. at September 11, 2012 04:31 PM (BfZ1r) -----------The difference in the way the two adjoining states have handled their coddled teachers unions could not be more stark. Taxpayers in Illinois are looking with envy across the border, and wondering, "where's OUR Scott Walker?"
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 11, 2012 04:34 PM (P6QsQ

One could only hope...

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at September 11, 2012 04:36 PM (nTgAI)

138 Speaking of going bizarro earth... I'm one of the uncounted in the U6 since I self-employ and I don't currently have a contract.

After November, I may just go the SSDI route depending on the outcome.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone buffoon at September 11, 2012 04:36 PM (9Wbta)

139 A friend of mine was a union steward for a while, and he hated it for this very reason. Not only did he get tired of having to advocate for employees who deserved disciplinary action, but he was sometimes afraid that they would take some of their misplaced anger out on him or his family when things didn't go the way they wanted.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 11, 2012 04:36 PM (dN5sa)

140 That bitch hasn't missed many meals has she?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 11, 2012 04:36 PM (9TTOe)

141 angler, it sure as hell isn't your #3! this will NOT play well in OH (or Pennsy)

no. way. on. earth.

but . . . I wouldn't put #1 or #2 past these scumbags

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 11, 2012 04:37 PM (J6kXj)

142 btw, a bunch of us are going all bizzarro-mirror-universe if this election goes the wrong way.

Again, I seek clarity on this point. If we go bizzarro-mirrorverse, that means I have to shave, take off the go-go boots and be nice, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD you know you want me at September 11, 2012 04:37 PM (VtjlW)

143 So that bad jobs report stayed in the news cycle for, what, 3/4's of one day?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2012 04:29 PM (9Q7Nu)

-------------------------------------------------

Which was my point in the other thread. This has all the accrutraments of being a giant squirrel. Much like the embassy breach in Egypt. Cloward-Piven, baby.

Posted by: Soona at September 11, 2012 04:37 PM (QcPo7)

144

'Public Service Union'....or....'Public Sector Union'...

They're...'Government Unions', either way.
Government Employee Unions.

Calling them 'Public Service Unions' makes them sound like they are doing us some public service, out of the goodness of their hearts.
They're not.
They're selfish parasites...with an over-inflated sense of self worth.

So I think we should try to refer to them as 'Government Unions', whenever possible.

Some people still don't even know that these Unions exist!
And then, when they hear that term 'Public Service Union'...they go, "Oh well, that sounds okay. They're doing publice service work".
guh.

Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 04:38 PM (LdrIf)

145 I believe we've identified a new type of double post.

Posted by: Andy at September 11, 2012 04:38 PM (5Rurq)

146 Just started reading "Witness" by Whittaker Chambers.

People forget that the unions were started by the Communist Party.

And that "Organize" was CP codespeak for "Destroy"......

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 11, 2012 04:38 PM (P6H+d)

147 Greatly exaggerated. * cough *

Do tell. I'm not from around there.

Posted by: RushBabe at September 11, 2012 04:38 PM (tQHzJ)

148 Which was my point in the other thread. This has all the accrutraments of being a giant squirrel. Much like the embassy breach in Egypt. Cloward-Piven, baby.
Posted by: Soona at September 11, 2012 04:37 PM (QcPo7)

________________

Correct.

Posted by: tasker at September 11, 2012 04:38 PM (r2PLg)

149 If we go bizzarro-mirrorverse, that means I have to shave, take off the go-go boots and be nice, right?

Well, let's not go overboard here.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 04:38 PM (8y9MW)

150 That bitch hasn't missed many meals has she?
---
Country Kitchen Buffet closes when she comes into town.

Posted by: CUS at September 11, 2012 04:38 PM (84pE9)

151 I hear one thing: I'm hanging by a thread and I know it.

If you can find the thread that will support Karen Lewis, we'll have space elevators in no time.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 11, 2012 04:39 PM (ZPuY0)

152 Kailash, when it rises.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 11, 2012 04:39 PM (xo33Y)

153 89 eleven,

She's banned from high speed rail for 2 reasons:

1) the train's engine dies after each pull

2) the national geologic survey can't track the mid grade seismic impact fast enough to give warnings.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 04:39 PM (LRFds)

154 I think they really overestimate how much people love public school teachers.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 11, 2012 04:39 PM (T0NGe)

155 Why is it that these union leaders are such fat asses?

Posted by: booter at September 11, 2012 04:39 PM (5KRL6)

156 >>>I'm also re-posting this stuff from the previous post, because I added it late.

Two things:
1. When did posting stuff twice require a reason around here?
1. When did posting stuff twice require a reason around here?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 11, 2012 04:40 PM (0q2P7)

157 > A "Sister Soulja" moment. Obama told Rahm to play hardball. Obama will
come out against "unreasonable" union demands, echoing his convention
speech that we're all going to have to give up a little. Maybe make a
play for independents, knowing that he'll be sticking his finger only in
the eyes of people who'll vote for him anyway.

The probability of this explanation is as small as the probability an unattended bon-bon will last 10 seconds in Karen Lewis's field of vision.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 11, 2012 04:40 PM (dN5sa)

158 149 alleng,

I don't want atc to have a goatee...

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 04:40 PM (LRFds)

159 That bitch hasn't missed many meals has she?

She'll tell you it's herd-i-tary. More likely herd-and-dairy.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2012 04:40 PM (vbh31)

160 And somewhere in Chicago there's a sprung, tire flattened Rascal breathing its last...

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at September 11, 2012 04:41 PM (eNURf)

161 145 I believe we've identified a new type of double post.
Posted by: Andy

It's really more of a poat and a half.

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 11, 2012 04:41 PM (QB3JR)

162 Again, I seek clarity on this point. If we go bizzarro-mirrorverse, that means I have to shave, take off the go-go boots and be nice, right?
P

Like that's gonna happen.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 11, 2012 04:41 PM (9TTOe)

163 Why did they appoint Fat Bastard's sister head of CTU?

Posted by: jwpaine at September 11, 2012 04:41 PM (FUozQ)

164 I don't want atc to have a goatee...

Is that what they're calling it now?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 11, 2012 04:41 PM (8y9MW)

165 I can't believe I'm losing to this guy.

Posted by: Mitt Romney's Dukakis moment in the debates at September 11, 2012 04:41 PM (60GaT)

166
It's no wonder these bastids want to get rid of any accountability. When 79% of 8th graders in Chicago public schools aren't proficient in reading, teachers don't want to have their pay tied to their performance.
85% of the students in Chicago public schools are hispanic or black. So once again, why do Democrats hate children of color?

Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:41 PM (WGmy2)

167 btw, a bunch of us are going all bizzarro-mirror-universe if this election goes the wrong way.

I plan to actively seek a Galt solution.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 11, 2012 04:41 PM (0q2P7)

168
Again, I seek clarity on this point. If we go bizzarro-mirrorverse, that means I have to shave, take off the go-go boots and be nice, right?

Don't you dare, besides you are supposed to be setting up a new brave world.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at September 11, 2012 04:41 PM (R8hU8)

169 It is September 11. The contrast of these people against that backdrop is horrifying in a whole different way. Most people have taken pay cuts up the wazoo. A lot of people were fired, some are underemployed to just put food on the table.

A new round of layoffs is coming to a defense contractor near you. And these people have the audacity to hope that they are better than every other American citizen?

The optic, the narrative is a horrible failure. How long will America's teachers put up with this? I ask this because right now the Chicago teachers are reflecting on every single teacher in this county. They are doing a wonderful job of uniting America....America wants them all fired and replaced.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 11, 2012 04:42 PM (oZfic)

170 Pavlich, Townhall

Taxpayers to Lose $25 Billion on Auto Bailout, Not $3.3 billion

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2012 04:42 PM (BAnPT)

171 I'm not sure these teachers are getting much sympathy from Parents who have to scramble to find someone to watch their little darlings.

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 11, 2012 04:42 PM (W2Z3C)

172 "Why did they appoint Fat Bastard's sister head of CTU?"

now THAT is funny, right there.

HAH! Well played, indeed.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at September 11, 2012 04:42 PM (eNURf)

173 Do tell. I'm not from around there.

My post probably needed a sarc tag.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2012 04:42 PM (vbh31)

174 How many children have fallen from Karen's gaping maw into one of the folds of her fat? Someone should check.

Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:42 PM (WGmy2)

175 I don't want atc to have a goatee...>>

You're making a large assumption as to where the goatee is aren't you?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 11, 2012 04:43 PM (tf9Ne)

176 Does this piano drapery make my ass look fat?

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:43 PM (dN5sa)

177 "How many children has Karen Lewis consumed in her lifetime? Yeesh!"

Sometimes I think she is a ruse that has gone too far. Years ago, a couple kids got together inside a costume, and wanted to see how far they could go to get the teachers to do all sorts of insane crazy shit.

As the years have progressed, not only have the kids grown, but the number of kids who found out about the ruse and "wanted in" on the joke have also grown. So there's probably hiding underneath this massive Karen Lewis costume two high school juniors, and a handfull of various other 4th - 7th graders, all romping around, snickering, as they put on this massive charade.

Posted by: reason at September 11, 2012 04:43 PM (sPO/s)

178 Quoting #122: "Karen Lewis?
Rahm Emmanuel?

Emmanuel Lewis!"

The image that came to mind was Vizier Jafar mating with Ursula the sea witch. Yikes!

Posted by: Mr_Write at September 11, 2012 04:43 PM (VJUQK)

179 @132 alexthechick

I echo everything you just said. Every single word.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 11, 2012 04:43 PM (P6QsQ)

180 167 MtM,

We can have a lot of fun being janitors....

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 04:43 PM (LRFds)

181 Where is che che when we need a good cry.

Posted by: Soona at September 11, 2012 04:44 PM (QcPo7)

182
So it would be interesting to view the crime statistics while these 400,000 children are off from school. I wonder if there's any change.

Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:44 PM (WGmy2)

183 The image that came to mind was Vizier Jafar mating with Ursula the sea witch. Yikes!
Posted by: Mr_Write at September 11, 2012 04:43 PM (VJUQK)

That shits funny right there.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 11, 2012 04:44 PM (9TTOe)

184 I can't believe I'm losing to this guy.

Posted by: Mitt Romney's Dukakis moment in the debates

He just can't help himself, given to Mandate and malleability.

"On day one, I will ACT to repeal ObamaCare." Mitt's latest revision.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2012 04:45 PM (BAnPT)

185 why are these dumbass lardasses so self-confident. What makes them think they are sympathetic people, that they're "workers" who have it rough?

Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 11, 2012 04:45 PM (QxSug)

186
Where is che che when we need a good cry.

Were all those stories really true? Does anyone know?

Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:45 PM (WGmy2)

187 175 buzzsaw,

Or I've made a big assumption where it isn't....

Hey-o

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 04:45 PM (LRFds)

188
I don't know. Karen Lewis could look pretty hot. (if she were slathered in BBQ, spinning on a rotiserrie with an apple in her mouth.)

Posted by: Is what JQ Public is thinking... at September 11, 2012 04:45 PM (NBj0d)

189 Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:42 PM (WGmy2)

Hey, I thought nurses were supposed to be compassionate and stuff. Leave the viciousness to the lawyers. We're professionals.

Posted by: Cicero at September 11, 2012 04:45 PM (QKKT0)

190 Lewis reminds of about a 500 pound heavier version of the Viceroy from The Phantom Menace.

Posted by: RWC at September 11, 2012 04:46 PM (7Ab5Q)

191 Or I've made a big assumption where it isn't....

Hey-o>>

Touche'

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 11, 2012 04:46 PM (tf9Ne)

192 Nothing shows liberal hypocrisy quite as well as when teachers unions get a hair up there ass like this.

Quitean unfortunate turn of phraseto use in a Karen Lewis post.

Posted by: RushBabe at September 11, 2012 04:47 PM (tQHzJ)

193 Can you imagine if you were a kid in her class and managed to really piss her off?

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2012 04:47 PM (vbh31)

194 I'd make sweet love to that big squishy fat sack.

Posted by: Baron Harkonnen at September 11, 2012 04:47 PM (R18D0)

195 Anyone that thinks this is a ploy is mistaken. Not that it won't be spun in the best possible light but that's sledding uphill. These groups are disgusting, and people recognize it instinctively regardless of whatever spin they get.

This is legit in my opinion. The unions are desperate generally and don't mind showing dems that they are still relevant. That's what they are reduced to, more or less. Their greatest leverage is against the left, maybe their only leverage in some cases.

You see what Walker was able to do in Wisconsin and I think it is time to push education hard now.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 11, 2012 04:47 PM (RYVE/)

196 99 I wash myself with ~~a rag~~ an ewok, on a stick.

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:30 PM (QupBk)

FIFY

Posted by: jwpaine at September 11, 2012 04:47 PM (FUozQ)

197 193 Ms. Brown 8th grade algebra. Arythmia attack. <----formerly evil.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 04:48 PM (LRFds)

198 Karen 'Antoinette' Lewis was having lunch with Michelle 'Marie' Obama.

My brain just shattered and I can't finish it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 11, 2012 04:49 PM (FsGME)

199
170Pavlich, Townhall

Taxpayers to Lose $25 Billion on Auto Bailout, Not $3.3 billion

$35 Billion...is the figure they've been using on FBN.
Charles Payne, Stuart Varney, Cavuto, Lou Dobbs....have been saying "$35 Billion Loss on theAuto Bailout" whenever they talk about it.

But hey, when we're $16 Trillion in Debt....what's a few billion here and there.

Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 04:49 PM (LdrIf)

200 Irony Alert: She never could have gotten that fat in a communist system.

It's Chicago. I'd say she did.

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at September 11, 2012 04:49 PM (GBXon)

201 Round up all these bitches whiners moaners complainers agitators and free stuff sycophants and put them on a chartered Norweigian Cruise Line floatilla and ship them overseas to a nice socialist nanny state country.

If nobody wants to take them, fuck it....sink the ships.

Sharks gotta eat too...

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at September 11, 2012 04:49 PM (ovpNn)

202 There is one point that the teachers have about evaluations, and it's that if you're in a gangbanger ghetto school where half your students barely even come to class, let alone do the minimal work required, then student performance will be poor regardless of teacher effort.

In other words, how is it just to evaluate a teacher's competence on the basis of student achievement, when a significant percentage of your students don't care to learn?

That said, there's a large conversation that needs to be had about the home/family culture of schools that contain significant numbers of those students. But no one will touch that with a 1,000-ft pole due for fear of being called racist or worse. So the status quo continues unabated...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at September 11, 2012 04:49 PM (aPRLO)

203 Quoting Dave S.: "You see what Walker was able to do in Wisconsin and I think it is time to push education hard now."

My heart's with your statement, Dave, but this is Chicago, Illinois, and this place is the LAST place in the country that will try something that actually works. I predict another 10-20 more years of decline until something ever changes in the Windy city.

Posted by: Mr_Write at September 11, 2012 04:50 PM (VJUQK)

204 198 ap,

Roasted toddler, and chilled puppy...

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 04:51 PM (LRFds)

205 One thing you will never read in the news.
'TEACHER KAREN LEWIS ARRESTED FOR SEDUCING STUDENT'

Posted by: polynikes at September 11, 2012 04:51 PM (m2CN7)

206 Hey, remember me? I'm a piece of crap.

Posted by: John Edwards at September 11, 2012 04:51 PM (SzAZ7)

207 Does this mean Karen Lewis will not be the featured cheerleader pic on Saturday?

Posted by: Ammo Dump at September 11, 2012 04:51 PM (YYyqq)

208 Watching these idiot union teachers makes me appreciate my high school. I didn't think much of it at the time, but actually is one of the higher ranked public schools nationally and in a non-union state.
Hindsight, and all that.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 11, 2012 04:52 PM (xo33Y)

209
It would be funny if Rush was right. If this strike started off as some scam so Oblahblah could ride in on his white ass (Joe Biden) and save the day. All the top people are involved in the plan (Karen, Rahm, Barry, Arne, and Val), but the underlings don't have a clue. So when Karen tells the teachers that they are going to settle (after getting the high sign from King Choom), and the rank and file Unionistas who have drank the Kook-aid want to continue with the strike (because they really think this strike is about them), hilarity will ensue. I don't know if that will happen, but a girl can dream. I love watching blue on blue violence. I'm sick that way.

And yeah, those kids are screwed anyways. It doesn't matter what the outcome of this strike is.

Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:52 PM (WGmy2)

210 something you will likely read in the news.

'TEACHER KAREN LEWIS ARRESTED FOR CRUSHING STUDENT'

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 11, 2012 04:52 PM (tf9Ne)

211 I can't help how weed give a sister a bad case of the munchies.

When I'm chooming, don't pay to get near my maw. Know what I'm saying?

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:52 PM (dN5sa)

212 >>>We can have a lot of fun being janitors....

Then we'd have to join a union. I'm out on that one.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 11, 2012 04:52 PM (0q2P7)

213
Does this mean Karen Lewis will not be the featured cheerleader pic on Saturday?

Her elbows are too sharp, and she definitely would leave cracker crumbs in the bed...

Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:53 PM (WGmy2)

214 That said, there's a large conversation that needs to be had about the home/family culture of schools that contain significant numbers of those students. But no one will touch that with a 1,000-ft pole due for fear of being called racist or worse. So the status quo continues unabated...
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at September 11, 2012 04:49 PM (aPRLO)

-----------------------------------------------

But, but, we can't discuss social issues. It'll turn off the moderates.

Posted by: Soona at September 11, 2012 04:53 PM (QcPo7)

215 Let the bus drivers teach. Can't hurt.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 11, 2012 04:54 PM (Cc9g8)

216 Though this could be a headline you could see in the future.
'TEACHER KAREN LEWIS ARRESTED FOR THREATENING AND YELLING AT STUDENTS TO "GET INTO MY BELLY!!"

Posted by: polynikes at September 11, 2012 04:54 PM (m2CN7)

217 >>>It would be funny if Rush was right.

Rush was cutting off the pass. If that was there plan, it's now politically infeasible.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 11, 2012 04:55 PM (0q2P7)

218 212 MtM,

Nah we'll go to Montana no union. Chase bears, hop the border visit free folks. Then we can play mind games with the party members.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2012 04:55 PM (LRFds)

219 A waist is a terrible thing to mind.

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:55 PM (SzAZ7)

220 Her elbows are too sharp, and she definitely would leave cracker crumbs in the ~~bed~~ pallet rack...

Posted by: Cicero at September 11, 2012 04:56 PM (QKKT0)

221
Let the bus drivers teach. Can't hurt.

This! Yes! bus drivers, lunch ladies, and janitors. You know, people that actually work!

Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:56 PM (WGmy2)

222 >>Yes.

>>btw, a bunch of us are going all bizzarro-mirror-universe if this election goes the wrong way.

>>If you can't beat them..
===========
Right there with you. I know I'm smarter than these leaches. The only worry I have is they win on having so much experience at it.
I'll learn. I'm a quick study.
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>>After November, I may just go the SSDI route depending on the outcome.
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I figure I should be able to do that and/or welfare. I don't know how a self-employed can. But, I'll figure out a way.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 11, 2012 04:56 PM (imtbm)

223 They've realized that in this economic climate they look very bad asking for a lot more money when they are the most highly paid.

Since they are all apparently excellent at "crafting the right narrative" they've now come up with the additional "for the children" stuff but all they want is the money and everyone sees this.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 11, 2012 04:56 PM (oZfic)

224 Mmmmmm....flotillas...

Anybody feel like running me to Taco Bell?

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 04:57 PM (sPO/s)

225 203 Quoting Dave S.: "You see what Walker was able to do in Wisconsin and I think it is time to push education hard now."

My heart's with your statement, Dave, but this is Chicago, Illinois, and this place is the LAST place in the country that will try something that actually works. I predict another 10-20 more years of decline until something ever changes in the Windy city.
Posted by: Mr_Write at September 11, 2012 04:50 PM (VJUQK)

------

Oh yeah. Talking more about taking this issue national, to various campaigns. All the talk about needing more funding for education should be challenged with frank talk about where the teachers unions interest lie, and where the parents, kids, and societies interests lie.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 11, 2012 04:57 PM (QbKVX)

226 132 "Learning" happens when cultivated at home. Regardless of income, students who study diligently at home do learn and achieve academic excellence as well as self respect with the personalized work ethic. Even if the parents aren't involved except to enforce home study in the student's private schedule. My parents did not help us with homework until high school freshman year when my dad helped us to "get" Algebra.

Given what public educator UNIONS have done to public education curriculum and presentational manner this past half
century, they could keep the children in school 9 hrs. a day, 6 days a
week, year round without summer off. The kids would NOT learn very
effectively unless they practice/rehearse at home those academic lessons
taught at school, and the parents be held responsible for their children's diligence.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 11, 2012 04:58 PM (BAnPT)

227
Though this could be a headline you could see in the future.
'TEACHER KAREN LEWIS ARRESTED FOR THREATENING AND YELLING AT STUDENTS TO "GET INTO MY BELLY!!"

BUT FIRST YOU MUST BLOW ME!!!!!

Posted by: KAREN LEWIS'S LITTLE MAN IN THE BOAT at September 11, 2012 04:58 PM (WGmy2)

228 Can we fire them all like Reagan did?

What's all this "we" bullshit? Everybody pisses and moans about federal involvement in schools, we should at least be consistent. This is a Chicago problem and the federal government has no business firing non-federal employees. Local governments can fuck things up well enough on their own, there is no reason for a whole new layer of government dumbasses to get involved.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 11, 2012 04:58 PM (+lsX1)

229 Come to me, my sexy little chocolate minx.

Posted by: Michael Moore at September 11, 2012 04:58 PM (dN5sa)

230 Come to me, my sexy little chocolate minx.
Posted by: Michael Moore at September 11, 2012 04:58 PM (dN5sa)Oh that's just nasty!

Posted by: runningrn at September 11, 2012 04:59 PM (WGmy2)

231 Cracker crumbs?

Hell, the entire bed would be reduced to kindling.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 11, 2012 04:59 PM (dN5sa)

232
216Though this could be a headline you could see in the future.
'TEACHER KAREN LEWIS ARRESTED FOR THREATENING AND YELLING AT STUDENTS TO "GET INTO MY BELLY!!"

Or...

Karen Lewis, nailing up a Sign that says: 'MISSING CHILD'.
With a smashed, small child wedged into her butcrack.

Posted by: wheatie at September 11, 2012 05:00 PM (LdrIf)

233 These are great. Become a teacher PSA parodies...
http://tinyurl.com/9y4nl7o http://tinyurl.com/8k6rbe3
http://tinyurl.com/9btgcnl http://tinyurl.com/23ocj45

Posted by: Dang at September 11, 2012 05:00 PM (R18D0)

234 @229 - Giddy up, you pot-bellied stallion!

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 05:01 PM (sPO/s)

235 Maybe if they'd donea better job of educating their students all those years ago, there would be more taxpayer dollars in the kitty to meet their exorbitant demands.

But uneducated people whose mommas are on welfare tend to perpetuate the cycle.

And you know who doesn't pay taxes? People on welfare.

Diminishing pool of contributors ends up with less money to go around a generation later......

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 11, 2012 05:02 PM (P6H+d)

236 Karen Lewis is so fat that the Chicago school systems pays her the salary of ten normal sized teachers.

Posted by: polynikes at September 11, 2012 05:02 PM (m2CN7)

237 What's all this "we" bullshit? Everybody pisses and moans about federal involvement in schools, we should at least be consistent. This is a Chicago problem and the federal government has no business firing non-federal employees. Local governments can fuck things up well enough on their own, there is no reason for a whole new layer of government dumbasses to get involved.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 11, 2012 04:58 PM (+lsX1)

Bingo! An Illinois problem, but still "Bingo!" The feral government has no business dicking around with any of this.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2012 05:02 PM (X3lox)

238 So put me some knowlege. Is this the same city that a Community Organizer and his terrorist buddy spent around 100 million dollars of the Annenberg Challenge to improve schools?

Now we know why Solyndra ended the way it did.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at September 11, 2012 05:02 PM (UU0OF)

239 Quoting Dave S: "Oh yeah. Talking more about taking this issue national, to various
campaigns. All the talk about needing more funding for education should
be challenged with frank talk about where the teachers unions interest
lie, and where the parents, kids, and societies interests lie."

I agree.

Posted by: Mr_Write at September 11, 2012 05:03 PM (VJUQK)

240 DAMN!

Another Hideous Beast of a liberal female visual.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU ACE?

are you trying to turn all the men gay?

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at September 11, 2012 05:04 PM (ovpNn)

241 Karen Lewis isso dumb that she thought the Head Start program was an affirmative action track and field event.

Posted by: polynikes at September 11, 2012 05:04 PM (m2CN7)

242 I was told the Annenberg Challenge was a hot dog eating contest.

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 05:05 PM (SzAZ7)

243 Karen Lewis is so ugly inside that all of her organs have demanded to be transplanted.

Posted by: polynikes at September 11, 2012 05:06 PM (m2CN7)

244 Unions are for losers. They provide loser job security paycheck security.

Posted by: TexBob at September 11, 2012 05:06 PM (XzkCL)

245 Occupy Golden Corral™!

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 05:08 PM (R18D0)

246 Toilets scream when they see Karen Lewis coming.

Posted by: Soona at September 11, 2012 05:09 PM (QcPo7)

247 OT but related to the Occupy movement. I was just notified that a FB friend (who has been lured to the dark side) is attending an " Occupy Israel" Rally. Anyone know much about this Occupy movement? More of the same stuff we see in anti-Israel protests? I'm growing seriously concerned about this kid. I think he's gone over the cliff.

Posted by: Ragnell at September 11, 2012 05:09 PM (iqQbh)

248
DAMN!

Another Hideous Beast of a liberal female visual.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU ACE?

are you trying to turn all the men gay?

It's really a self-help exercise for Ace. He's trying to stay on the wagon...

Posted by: Marv Cloggenstein, Mary's smarter, better looking brother at September 11, 2012 05:09 PM (WGmy2)

249 Unions are for losers.

Posted by: TexBob

If I give you money, will you go tell my boss what I want?

Posted by: The Union Label at September 11, 2012 05:10 PM (R18D0)

250 Karen Lewis is so fat that the Chicago school system school lunch program had to apply for a cease and desist order against her.

Posted by: polynikes at September 11, 2012 05:10 PM (m2CN7)

251 >>It would be funny if Rush was right.

He sort of hinted today that it might not have been a true prediction. I inferred that maybe it wasn't a prediction - it was a dare. Goad him into wading into the issue.

I could see the reasoning. Either way, Obama loses something. If he sides with the unions, he risks the toxic backlash. If he sides with the taxpayers, he pisses off the union. Lose-lose. Which is probably why Carney says Obama has "no comment" on the issue.

Posted by: angler at September 11, 2012 05:10 PM (SwjAj)

252
"I'm hanging by a thread and I know it."

I disagree. What they're saying is, "Nobody will pay me what I want based on my merit, so I'm going to try to get whatever I can through force." They're what Rand called "second-handers."

If the liberal wants something to happen, they lobby the government to force other people to pay for, or do, stuff. If a conservative wants something to happen, they do it themselves. If it's providing something people with something theyactually want, they will pay for it, and that translates to "starting a company."

Posted by: Optimizer at September 11, 2012 05:11 PM (As94z)

253 OT Fuck the arab spring!

Posted by: Honey Badger the Dense Rethuglican Nazi Bastard at September 11, 2012 05:11 PM (GvYeG)

254 Karen Lewis is to dieting as Karen Lewis is to teaching.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at September 11, 2012 05:16 PM (YYyqq)

255 They reject performance evaluations and demand to be rehired no matter how badly they fuck up?

So, basically, the same theme as Obama 2012.

Must be a Chicago thing.

Posted by: Gen. Scoundrel at September 11, 2012 05:16 PM (G0g/M)

256 'Cuz I'm hot butted!
Check it and see!
Got a waistline of a hundred and three!
C'mon, baby, you can do more than fap!
'Cuz I'm hot butted! Hot butted!

Posted by: Karen Lewis at September 11, 2012 05:18 PM (tq6K2)

257 OWS is hand in glove with the NYC teachers unions. They organized filed trips to it, got credit for participating in it, teacher are the propaganda arm of the progressive movement. They are very proud of that.

Posted by: thunderb at September 11, 2012 05:20 PM (Dnbau)

258 My city's school system has several schools ranked as in decline(ie failing)- and the number is growing. The solution? Allow the teachers in the declining schools to transfer to those schools which are not rated as poor; then hire first year teachers and stick the lambs into the roughest inner-city schools (rated as declining)and of course, fail to do the logical thing by not seeking out experienced and successful teachers, and recruiting them to your city. Take the Principals of failing schools and promote them to the Central Office with a nice raise. Makes sense to me!

Posted by: Ragnell at September 11, 2012 05:20 PM (iqQbh)

259 Well, the real irony here is that any vote for Obama in November -- and that includes when someone doesn't vote -- is a de facto ballot for Karen Lewis and the CTU to be in charge of the entire country.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at September 11, 2012 05:21 PM (f8XyF)

260 30
Education majors are the bottom of the barrel. Most of them are sub-par and most of them are incompetent and unable to carry out their basic tasks, which are fairly simple and straightforward. It's not totally their fault. Most are too dumb to be able to perform their jobs well.
Teacher's unions are strong because most teachers are idiots. Lowest mean scores of any department. LOWEST. And yet we allow these near-retards to make decisions on what standard curricula should be? WTFFF?

To be a teacher you are not an education major. K-6 is Liberal Arts. 7-12 the field you teach. THEN you get into the education program and effectively get a Masters in Education (I had to take 3 more classes for the Masters). Also, to get into the Credential Program you have to have above a 3.0.

Not all of us teachers are idiots. I was hardly the lowest in my fields GPA. I would like to see where you are getting your data from.

I think Ace hit the nail on the head

Just an FYI, teaching is not as easy as some seem to think it is. When I first started teaching we got a new teacher that used to work for Northrop as an aeronautics engineer. He became a teacher because he thought it would be easier than what he was doing, less stress etc. His words. He lasted a 4 months. Went back to Northrop. According to him teaching was harder than his job at Northrop.

Posted by: Thorisin at September 11, 2012 05:23 PM (xMq47)

261 Normally I eat teachers union riff-raff for lunch, but in Ms. Lewis's case I'll have to wait until Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Chris Christie at September 11, 2012 05:23 PM (dN5sa)

262 Rush's slut comments garnered not only SCOAMF's attention, but a personal phone call. Chicago, home-town schools he blew a 100 million on, and former COS Rahm is mayor of, NO COMMENT.

Glad he has priorities.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at September 11, 2012 05:26 PM (UU0OF)

263 You know who could blow up their plans if this indeed was a plot?

Sarah Palin.

All she has to do is suggest some collusion and it's over.

Just like she did with the "Dump Biden" talk.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 11, 2012 05:35 PM (imtbm)

264 205 One thing you will never read in the news. 'TEACHER KAREN LEWIS ARRESTED FOR SEDUCING STUDENT'

Posted by: polynikes at September 11, 2012 04:51 PM (m2CN7)

True. But she's screwing them. And their parents, too.

Posted by: jwpaine at September 11, 2012 05:39 PM (FUozQ)

265 > Chicago, home-town schools he blew a 100 million on

Try $4 billion in the last four years (more than $10,000 per pupil).

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 11, 2012 05:39 PM (dN5sa)

266
Not all of us teachers are idiots. I was hardly the lowest in my fields GPA. I would like to see where you are getting your data from.

Did I say "all"? I said "most" and I meant it. The data (for mean GRE scores, say) is sitting on the ETS website for anyone to see. I first ran into the figures when I got my own GRE scores back and saw the means for all grads on the back. That was many, many years ago. I was absolutely astonished at how shitty the education scores were. Lower math scores than English grads. Those rankings have not changed over the years. The education departments are the biggest jokes at every university - and that's saying something seeing all the joke departments that universities like to have around.

If you don't believe me go check out the scores yourself at ETS. Or look on the back of your own GRE results.

Not all teachers are awful, but most are and, on average, they suck donkey shit and don't deserve even half the pay they get. Not even close. Further, they fuck up kids with their own stupidity. Again, not all, obviously but MOST.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2012 05:45 PM (X3lox)

267 Interesting reading: 2010 College-Bound Seniors PDF http://is.gd/GYLWKz

Table 25:
Intended College Major Critical Reading Mathematics Writing

Education 481 486 477
Engineering 531 587 516
Military Sciences 501 504 469
Legal Professions & Studies 511 506 499

Posted by: toby928© at September 11, 2012 05:46 PM (QupBk)

268 Format Fail

Posted by: toby928© at September 11, 2012 05:46 PM (QupBk)

269 What I wanna know is: How big a hole did they have to put in Karen Lewis's bedroom wall to get her outside and loaded on the truck so she could attend the protest?

Posted by: jwpaine at September 11, 2012 05:47 PM (FUozQ)

270 They should have been a tad suspicious when Karen Lewis kept referring to her students as "Happy Meals."

Posted by: jwpaine at September 11, 2012 05:50 PM (FUozQ)

271 Mean GRE scores (2011):

Intended Major: Verbal, Quantitative, Anlytical Writing

EDUCATION: 151, 148, 3.9
Arts - Performance Arts: 153, 150, 3.8
English Language, Literature: 157, 148, 4.3

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2012 05:53 PM (X3lox)

272 We don't have the GRE in California. It's the CBEST and CSET. Funny thing is my degree is in computers (which is a math heave degree) but I did poorly in the math section of the CBEST. The problem was I was used to using calculators for the basic math functions so it wasn't the best score.

Simple fact is that some are bad teachers but to say most given the number of teachers out there I would say is something of an exaggeration. Not all of us are left wing loons. I do tend to keep my political leanings to myself though.
Like I said, I think Ace hit the nail on the head.

Posted by: Thorisin at September 11, 2012 05:56 PM (xMq47)

273 I am guessing "Edcuation" is what we call "Liberal Arts" in California

Posted by: Thorisin at September 11, 2012 05:58 PM (xMq47)

274
"For the children." Don't forget this. It's for the children.

Yeah, that's what Mohammed and Jerry Sandusky said, too...

Wait...I'm confused. Am I insulting the CTU by making them rub shoulders with those two, or is it he other way around?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at September 11, 2012 06:00 PM (1hM1d)

275 Michelle needs to talk to Karen about eating more fresh organic vegetables.

Posted by: Long Island at September 11, 2012 06:04 PM (kzp9t)

276 I am guessing "Edcuation" is what we call "Liberal Arts" in California

Posted by: Thorisin at September 11, 2012 05:58 PM (xMq47)

No. Those are graduate departments, not undergrad. The GRE is for graduate school - Graduate Record Exam. The word "major" in the table is a bit of a mistake but that's the word that ETS uses.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2012 06:14 PM (X3lox)

277 Posted by: Thorisin at September 11, 2012 05:23 PM (xMq47)

I agree. A former Dupont Chemist left the teaching field after 2 years. Despite his background and high intelligence, he lacked the ability to teach his area of expertise and manage his classroom. Although earning a Masters in the academic field has become more frequent in many secondary schools, a strong academic background does not guarantee success in teaching, even when working with the gifted. Another point to consider is that not everyone lands a position in a strong college prep school. Many teachers struggle with classes full of inner-city students prone towards major behavioral disorders, no self-control, often violent, and no positive parental influence to provide reinforcement at home. Some Principals, practicing CYA with their communities enforce a "pass everyone" policy (an unwritten rule) on their faculty, and threaten teachers who refuse to cooperate. For these same reasons some administrators fail to back faculty attempting to introduce accountability into their classrooms. In all, it is a big shock for people who show up expecting to have short working hours and long summers goofing off, with little stress. Any top-rated teacher spends at least 12-14 hours a day on their classes. It does not end when their students leave the classroom. Many of them are on the road with academic- related teams on the weekends and after school.

The unions have done nothing to correct the obstacles towards improving classrooms. They collect money to donate to left -wing causes, while preventing school systems from recruiting top-ranked teachers, by enforcing the seniority hiring rule. As a result ,the only contribution the unions have enforced is the entrenchment of dead wood faculty who insist that the length of their teaching existence, should justify why they should be given perks. the unions do nothing to promote teachers who produce high test scores and student academic awards. Instead, they often appear to ignore these producers.

Posted by: Ragnell at September 11, 2012 06:16 PM (iqQbh)

278 Oh thats right. I forgot about the GRE exam. I didnt have to take it.

Thanks for the info

Posted by: Thorisin at September 11, 2012 06:17 PM (xMq47)

279 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2012 06:14 PM (X3lox)

True. I took the GRE for graduate studies in History. There is no comparison between the scores required for acceptance into my university's graduate History program and that of a M.ED. Rather than focusing on high academic skills and knowledge, I've observed that a masters in Education demands strong time management skills. Most graduate programs provide classes during the day, while students conduct research at night. Instead, an M.ed program is set up around teachers required to work during the day, coach and grade papers for several hours. Afterwards they must organize their time to attend classes at night, and research, organize and implement all those action plans to improve their schools. It is a matter of organization, but not necessarily high academic ability.

Frankly, I think the requirement to obtain a Masters to continue teaching should be altered to the field taught instead of Education. Too many secondary school teachers lack a strong background in their subject area. I doubt the unions would agree.

Posted by: Ragnell at September 11, 2012 06:46 PM (iqQbh)

280 278 It depends on your program. Many states DO require applicants for a M.ED program to take the GRE. However, they don't require the higher level scores found in most graduate programs. Yet, those programs are not dealing with students working the hours of teachers.

Another thing to keep in mind is the comparison of salaries vs. hours required of a university or college professor. Yes, professors have to produce research to survive. However, once they obtain tenure, their teaching/time requirements don't approach the demands of elementary/secondary level teachers. So those higher GRE requirements, can give students university jobs that pay more with less stress and lower working hours.

Posted by: Ragnell at September 11, 2012 06:58 PM (iqQbh)

281 177
"How many children has Karen Lewis consumed in her lifetime? Yeesh!"

Sometimes I think she is a ruse that has gone too far. Years ago, a
couple kids got together inside a costume, and wanted to see how far
they could go to get the teachers to do all sorts of insane crazy shit.

As the years have progressed, not only have the kids grown, but the
number of kids who found out about the ruse and "wanted in" on the joke
have also grown. So there's probably hiding underneath this massive
Karen Lewis costume two high school juniors, and a handfull of various
other 4th - 7th graders, all romping around, snickering, as they put on
this massive charade.

Posted by: reason at September 11, 2012 04:43 PM (sPO/s)

----------The Beast of Monsieur Racinehttp://www.amazon.com/Beast-Monsieur-Racine-Tomi-Ungerer/dp/0374405700

Posted by: Mary in LA at September 11, 2012 07:12 PM (9wOfB)

282 On a post with CTU in the title, it took 54 comments before anyone made a Jack Bauer reference.

This blog has gone to hell.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at September 11, 2012 07:17 PM (xUI0P)

283 They shut down streets in the loop again. Hindering people from getting home. There is no difference between the teachers union and the Occuturds.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2012 07:34 PM (dF3bG)

284 They never should have gotten rid of me...

Posted by: Bill Buchanan at September 11, 2012 07:36 PM (PMGbu)

285 "The most loyal troopers for any union are the worst performing at their actual jobs."

That was my experience. The ones who were drunk at the desks or asleep or simply had a big chip on their shoulder that said fuck you, if you think you can come in here to my cubicle and ask me to do fucking anything.

Also, some were mentally ill.

And they would tell me to quit working so fast or I would make them look bad!

I said to the head guy once how shocked I was at this and he said, look, this is the employer of last resort. These people would be on welfare if they didn't have this job. At least they have to do something.

Posted by: pj at September 11, 2012 08:14 PM (DQHjw)

286 If I bought her a HoneyBaked Ham for Thanksgiving, would she agreed to stop the strike?

How about two?

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