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Obama's Remarks: I Am Boldly Authorizing The Next President To Deal With This Problem, And In Futherance of This Daring Strategy, I Am Also Punting To a New Commission To Be Named Later
PS I really want to raise taxes

First of all, he's proposing less deficit reduction than Ryan. $4.4 trillion versus $4 trillion in the Obama plan. And here's the cute thing: Obama is suddenly talking about 12 year windows, instead of the standard 10, as Ryan did.

So he chose 12 years, probably because he wanted to get the number up to the $4 trillion range.

Further, Obama's plan as far as Medicare consists, as far as I can tell, merely ordering the agency to keep spending at no greater than a .5 or 1% rate of growth.

Um, look, this is his same idea with "bending the curve" with Medicare; there he stole a half trillion from the program to pay for the health care of other people, and then simply asserted that stealing the money from the program would force costs down such that nothing would be lost.

1, this is silly, because the government is what you call a soft touch on these matters. Cost discipline gets imposed by the end-user. It will not be imposed by a government which desperately needs the votes of the end user.

Without actually suggesting any concrete ways to reduce Medicare's costs, he just basically says "I will magically make it cost less."

2, if stealing $500 billion from Medicare would magically force costs down so that no user experiences a net reduction in actual services, why should Ryan's proposal not have a similar property? Furthermore, Ryan's plan at least has a plausible mechanism by which it is possible to imagine prices being forced down (a private insurer, probably requiring higher co-pays and deductibles, which in turn makes the end-user more cost-sensitive and drives down price where it has to be driven down-- at the actual point of sale, not weeks afterwards when Medicare sends out a check for services already rendered.

3, I seem to notice him saying that if his proposed order to reduce Medicare costs does not reduce costs (which it won't, same as it didn't with ObamaCare -- premiums are going up, not down) by the year 2023, then, get this, he will authorize "the Commission" (I think the Medicare trustees or something) to propose further means of reducing costs.

Get that? If, in 12 years, his plan hasn't worked yet, he'll actually call for a third-party blue-ribbon commission to propose some more changes.

Oh, and guess what? His big idea for closing the deficit is 1 cutting defense spending and 2 increasing taxes.

Bonus: He also says that if, in 2014, two years after the next election, the CBO's projection doesn't show "the share of the deficit as a fraction of GDP" falling (note that is a lenient way to view it), he is willing to go so far as authorizing the President and Congress to consider further "spending cuts" and "spending reductions."

What?

Get that? If what he's doing (which is nothing) doesn't work, he will reconvene two years post-election to kick it around some more.

I should note that the New Democratic Style Guide is to refer to any typical tax deductions as "tax expenditures" and hence, eliminating those (and thereby increasing taxes) is no longer a "tax increase," but a "spending reduction."

That's the new speak, man. Better get used to it.

"A Balanced Approach:" 12 year window, huh?

Obama's 12-yr plan: tax hikes now, more spending now, and then spending cuts in the last 5 years.

Yup, tax increases for 7 years and promise we'll start cutting spending like a mofo those last five years!!!!11! Swearsies!!!

Thanks to soothsayer for that.

Oh, he says that we can't cut spending right now because of this precarious recovery we supposedly have; we don't want to disrupt that.

But the tax increases? Oh, they won't fuss no one.

Another bonus: At the end of the speech, the bullshitty "uplift" part, he used the word "quagmire," but he pronounced it, en francais, I guess, as "quogmire."

Like, we're in a quogmire in Pokistohn.


Posted by: Ace at 03:15 PM




Comments

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1 Obama: we spent our way into this mess, and dammit, we'll spend our way out of it.

Posted by: where's the whiskey at April 13, 2011 03:17 PM (emozk)

2 When will this ridiculous flirtation of redistributive progressivism die it's necessary death?

Posted by: Johnny at April 13, 2011 03:18 PM (mhmc7)

3 it'll end in tears.

Posted by: negentropy at April 13, 2011 03:19 PM (27KAF)

4 and italics

Posted by: negentropy at April 13, 2011 03:19 PM (27KAF)

5
Obama's 12-yr plan: tax hikes now, more spending now, and then spending cuts in the last 5 years.

Brilliant!

Posted by: Soothsayer 6 of 8 at April 13, 2011 03:19 PM (uFokq)

6 Get that? If, in 12 years, his plan hasn't worked yet, he'll actually call for a third-party blue-ribbon commission to propose some more changes.
HE will call??? Freudian Slip by President for Life Obama? or does he somehow not know that he can only get 2 terms of Office (oh, wait, its in the Constitution, which he has no apparent knowledge of).

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2011 03:20 PM (NtXW4)

7 Well.. that's that I guess. All solved.. What a leader he is!

can we move on to world peace now?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 13, 2011 03:20 PM (f9c2L)

8 4
it'll end in tears.

And in chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 13, 2011 03:20 PM (9hSKh)

9 Transcript? Because if you are not paraphrasing too broadly and BARRY said HE will authorize any damn thing in 12 years I want that publicized as widely as possible. I know he would dearly love to become a president for life ala Chavez but the public wont like that.

Posted by: palerider at April 13, 2011 03:20 PM (dkExz)

10 Like Monica Crowley said on, eh, Hannity the other night when talking about Trump, Birthers, and Obama's unreleased transcripts: "It would be nice to know if he ever took microeconomics and what grade he got."
Indeed.

Posted by: Beagle at April 13, 2011 03:20 PM (sOtz/)

11 My God.

This man is a complete buffoon. At no point did I get the sense that he even vaguely understood the words he was reading off the teleprompter. It was as plain as the nose on his face - he had no intellectual grasp at all of what he was talking about.

Posted by: Killface at April 13, 2011 03:21 PM (rGcVx)

12 Does anyone even watch this fool anymore?
And BTW: damn, that spammer got in fast!

Posted by: Log Cabin at April 13, 2011 03:21 PM (S0Rj0)

13 Oops, probably O'Reilly. With Alan Colmes I think.

Posted by: Beagle at April 13, 2011 03:21 PM (sOtz/)

14 Those who gave up on these numbers long ago are way ahead of the rest of us. We'll all still end up in the same poor house, but those already resigned to it have had much less stress in the intervening time. They will be the ones smiling at the reunion of all us desperate clingers.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 13, 2011 03:22 PM (71LDo)

15 Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2011 03:20 PM (NtXW4)

Beat me to it.

So it's worse of a non-plan "plan" than the Ryan plan. The Ryan plan is for 10 years (read: 5 Congresses and at least two presidents) out. For more deficit reduction. Without taxes.

If the Republicans would be willing to actually challenge the idiot-in-chief, this is such a slow, hanging, curve there is no excuse for them not to hit it out of the park. Just say it that way: "The President offered less debt reduction over more time with an increase in taxes."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 13, 2011 03:23 PM (8y9MW)

16 That wasn't a speech, though it was specious. Close enough, I guess.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 03:23 PM (G/MYk)

17 btw, here's one reason we have to get runaway spending under control:

China blocks coastal waters, enlarges military

All the interest we pay on the money China lends to us goes into the Chi-Com military.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 13, 2011 03:23 PM (9hSKh)

18 13: I am thankful that Rush and some of the bloggers watch Barry and distill things so I can know what the JEF said w/o having to subject myself to listening to him.

Posted by: palerider at April 13, 2011 03:24 PM (dkExz)

19 Watched the first half. Listened to second half. Full of the same old crap.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 13, 2011 03:24 PM (xMT+4)

20 OMG!

Seriously, check out this pick of BO giving his speech.

They really do believe he is GOD!

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 03:24 PM (penCf)

21 On the Budget Comm.'s Path to Prosperity:


"One vision has been championed by Republicans in the House of
Representatives and embraced by several of their party’s presidential
candidates. It’s a plan that aims to reduce our deficit by $4 trillion
over the next ten years, and one that addresses the challenge of
Medicare and Medicaid in the years after that.


Those are both worthy goals for us to achieve. But the way this
plan
achieves those goals would lead to a fundamentally different America
than the one we’ve known throughout most of our history."

{entire text}




Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:24 PM (uVLrI)

22 He's just a shithead. Everything else is just commentary.

Posted by: ParisParamus at April 13, 2011 03:25 PM (1fwTy)

23 Ironically I'm teaching revenue forecasting in my public sector budgeting in a couple hours.

I'd love some hard numbers and figures to work with from this speech today that show how his forecasts will work. But alas... I get to make them up instead. Something tells me things won't be so rosy when I'm done with them.

Posted by: Doc at April 13, 2011 03:25 PM (yw9rS)

24 #21 The way the photo caught the light silhouettes make it look as if Obama has wings.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 13, 2011 03:25 PM (9hSKh)

25 You have to spend money to cut spending, you know.

Also, the best way to cure a headache is to hit yourself in the head with a brick. Little-known fact.

If only half the country weren't below average we wouldn't have this problem.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 03:25 PM (bxiXv)

26 He's completely post-modern. There is no objective reality, reality is whatever he needs it to be at the moment.

Posted by: Heorot at April 13, 2011 03:26 PM (Nq/UF)

27 I don't think the poll numbers will move as much as he thinks. People are catching on to his only ability... platitudes.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 13, 2011 03:26 PM (u8JAM)

28 ace, why don't you call it like it is, "Obama's Reading"?

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at April 13, 2011 03:26 PM (WRLu+)

29 Roll tape of Obama promising to "cut the deficit in half" by the end of his first term.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 13, 2011 03:26 PM (0fzsA)

30 ...The top 2 percent are costing us 500 billion a year in tax cuts!!!
(or some such twaddle)

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 13, 2011 03:27 PM (xMT+4)

31 It wasn't a presidential speech by any means, from the way he started
with shutouts to his demeanor to his way he attacked House members and
came close to uttering that their vision of our country is unAmerican. The speech also seemed personal whenever he displayed passive-aggressive anger towards the Republicans.

I'll be looking to see what the reaction is out of the House once they finish work on defunding this ObamaCare slush fund, since Obama was mainly taking-aim at them.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:28 PM (uVLrI)

32 Those are both worthy goals for us to achieve. But the way this
plan
achieves those goals would lead to a fundamentally different America
than the one we’ve known throughout most of our history.

And someone call him on the BS, now, please. The cradle-to-grave nanny-state Federal Government welfare United states has only been in existence (really) for the last 50 years or so. That's far from "most of our history."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 13, 2011 03:28 PM (8y9MW)

33 Yeah, I think I'll opt out

Posted by: Phoenixgirl at April 13, 2011 03:28 PM (ZdDyM)

34 Help me out here with some math. Obama claimed in his speech that Republicans wanted to give him, a rich guy, a $200K tax break. Last I checked, the president gets paid $400k per year. That seems, how do I put this, like bullshit.

This clown just says whatever he thinks will fire up his base and scare seniors.

Posted by: Otter at April 13, 2011 03:28 PM (TMB3S)

35 Andddd.....
1 Trillion of the 'cuts' is in Interest Payments on the debt itself? While not cutting the Principle of said debt? and in fact, with the debt still increasing?
Does this idiot NOT understand the basics of Compound Interest?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2011 03:28 PM (NtXW4)

36 The left know what they are doing. Lefty progs talk likethey are going to cut the deficit; but then they go on an all-out spending binge.TAX! Taxes to the rescue. Remove money from the private sector and funnel it into the government and call it "fairness".

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 13, 2011 03:28 PM (0fzsA)

37 Is he saying he's still going to be president in 12 years?

Jesus, we're doomed!!!

Posted by: EC at April 13, 2011 03:29 PM (GQ8sn)

38 We be spammin!

Posted by: the spammers what be spammin at April 13, 2011 03:29 PM (AYDSU)

39 From the textbook I use in my budgeting class, these are it's "guidelines for revenue and expenditure forecasting".

Understanding Tax Fundamentals
Clear Time Graphs
Transparency
Clear Task/Cost Inputs
Clear Sourcing of Data
Constant Monitoring

I know it was a speech and not a budget, or any formal document explaining the costs/revenues (not that there will be one) but I think PrezBO whiffed on all of the above.

Posted by: Doc at April 13, 2011 03:29 PM (yw9rS)

40 Thanks m80sB. Drat he didn't say *he* would authorize something in 12 years. Basically its the same old crap he spouted before Obamacare was passed. I just *love* the TAX spending costs.

Posted by: palerider at April 13, 2011 03:29 PM (dkExz)

41 Heh. I just got gave the government a spending decrease by taking a deduction on my taxes.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 13, 2011 03:30 PM (Z1jiu)

42 Senator DeMint:

“The President made it absolutely clear today that Democrats will cling
bitterly to deficit spending until our nation is bankrupt. After
offering an unserious budget just a few months ago, the President
offered new platitudes but the same old policies. He’s still pushing for
trillion dollar tax increases that would destroy jobs and cripple our
economy. He still wants to add trillions in new spending to our $14
trillion mountain of debt without a credible plan to ever balance the
budget. This failed tax spend Democrat agenda stands in stark
contrast to the serious and detailed plans that Republicans have offered
to save entitlement programs before they go bankrupt, cut wasteful
Washington spending, and reform our tax code so our economy can grow and
create jobs. The President admitted we have a spending problem, but his
solution is always the same: spend more, tax more, borrow more.
Americans have rejected this failed Democrat spending agenda, and
Republicans will continue to lead the way back to American prosperity.”

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:30 PM (uVLrI)

43 How he gives those speaches with astraight face is amazing. He can't believe his own bullshit.

Posted by: Talibill at April 13, 2011 03:30 PM (WEWGu)

44 He does the shiftiest old trick ever, using dollar amountsversus percentages of various wholes interchangeably to make the bad guys look "bad" and thehimself look responsible. He's got nothing.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 13, 2011 03:30 PM (xMT+4)

45 Posted by: Otter at April 13, 2011 03:28 PM (TMB3S)

Since we don't, unfortunately, prevent the President from having any source of outside income, he's still getting royalties from "his" two books. I'm sure that still brings in some money. Also, I believe that Moochelle gets money from some of her "causes" so it's easy to believe they're making well more than "just" 400K/yr.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 13, 2011 03:30 PM (8y9MW)

46 The 12 year thing is fucking bullshit.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 13, 2011 03:30 PM (1fB+3)

47 OMG!

Seriously, check out this pick of BO giving his speech.

They really do believe he is GOD!


Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 03:24 PM (penCf)

This picture creeped me out more than his entire speech (they gave him wings, as Kratos said)

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 03:31 PM (penCf)

48 Actually the best way to cure a headache is to lop your head off. No more headache.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 13, 2011 03:31 PM (yQWNf)

49 "Get that? If, in 12 years, his plan hasn't worked yet, he'll actually
call for a third-party blue-ribbon commission to propose some more
changes."

Ace, I know you are upset but I think you might want to rework this sentence. In twelve years he won't be president, he should be private citizen obama and he has no more power to call a commission than you do. \

Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:31 PM (k1rwm)

50 it'll end in tears blood

Posted by: 82nd Airborne Dad at April 13, 2011 03:31 PM (XGLac)

51

Another bonus: At the end of the speech, the bullshitty "uplift" part, he used the word "quagmire," but he pronounced it, en francais, I guess, as "quogmire."
Like, we're in a quogmire in Pokistohn.
BUT SARAH PALIN IS TEH STOOPID 'CUZ SHE SAID "SQUIRMISH"!!!!111!1!!!!eleventy!!1

Posted by: typical fucking moonbat douche at April 13, 2011 03:31 PM (IoUF1)

52 And GOP how about NO COMPRIMISE

Posted by: Phoenixgirl at April 13, 2011 03:31 PM (ZdDyM)

53 It's nice that Obama didn't even bother to consult with reality for his speech. It may surprise him to learn that his party lost huge in nov. 2010 and will be shellacked even worse in 2012.

His only hope is that his deal with Trump to become the next H. Ross Perot works out to save his skin.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 13, 2011 03:32 PM (QxSug)

54 41
Thanks m80sB. Drat he didn't say *he* would authorize something in 12
years. Basically its the same old crap he spouted before Obamacare was
passed. I just *love* the TAX spending costs.

The "plan" he's offering has a window of 12yrs, which is outside the budget window of 10yrs. He's also asking for another panel to craft a bipartisan solution when he had Bowles-Simpson do that last year.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:32 PM (uVLrI)

55 Wonce you start bombing you just can't turn it off. It's intoxicating. It's like you're God.

Posted by: b+rry at April 13, 2011 03:33 PM (ny5uA)

56 Come on Obama - why pussy foot around. If you remove all money from the private sector and funnel it into government coffers you can do away with the deficit tomorrow! The nation will be destroyed - but so what. All property and money belong to the government. We serfs just need to get on board with Obama's soaring rhetoric.
Rich folks who provide private sector jobs must be punished!

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 13, 2011 03:33 PM (0fzsA)

57 For some unexplained reason i can remember every word of every speech obama has given

Posted by: nine coconuts at April 13, 2011 03:33 PM (DHNp4)

58 If you like your commission you can keep your commission but I didn't like my commission so I'm replacing them until they say exactly what I want to hear.

Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:33 PM (k1rwm)

59 Senator DeMint: “The President made it absolutely clear today that Democrats will cling
bitterly to deficit spending until our nation is bankrupt."


LOL. Now THAT's how you do it. A few direct labels of "Liar" would have really helped, but I love what he did with bitter clingers.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 03:34 PM (G/MYk)

60 So He believes He'll still be around in 12 years dictating to us?

Posted by: willow at April 13, 2011 03:34 PM (h+qn8)

61 Posted by: nine coconuts at April 13, 2011 03:33 PM (DHNp4)

Put. The Valurite. Down.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 13, 2011 03:34 PM (8y9MW)

62 43 - Miss80sbaby. Thanks. DeMint nailed Obama.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 13, 2011 03:35 PM (0fzsA)

63 Zerohedge:
$38 Billion In Cuts? Make That $353 Million

Posted by: Truman North at April 13, 2011 03:35 PM (+gfwN)

64 at least he didn't try to lay ground work for seizing 401K's and IRA's. Or did he?

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 13, 2011 03:36 PM (QxSug)

65 Romeo13 -- negative interest?

Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2011 03:36 PM (WkuV6)

66 So, why haven't I heard any mention from the talking heads about:

"The most fortunate among us can afford to pay a little more. I don't need another tax cut," he said.

Why aren't they asking why he and his wife haven't given extra in their taxes? Why didn't they donate all royalties from their book? Why isn't he donating half of his fundraising monies to pay down the debt?

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 03:36 PM (penCf)

67 It's not wings or angels or sun's rays; it's actually the atomized bullshit from the purple lips of Jugears McFalsehood.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 03:36 PM (gJNMj)

68 Swearsies!!!!!

Posted by: Mortis at April 13, 2011 03:36 PM (I8CPt)

69 sort of OT --some things GOP could do wrt to debt ceiling that wouldn't upset me:

1. Raise it just enough for 2-3 more months at current burn rate --to give time to craft a serious strategy

2. Have another public input opportunity for folks to ask what they want the GOP to ask for in return

3. write several bills with conservative desire legislation and attach increased debt ceiling to each. Let Reid and Obama pick which one to agree to.
a) Obamacare repeal
b) Ryan's budget plan
c) national voter ID law. Make states end same day registration/voting and require either a mailed to precinct address voter verification card or a PICTURE ID which includes an address within the precinct. We DONT have to make it easy for the marxists to cheat.
d) appropriations bills will be broken up by department instead of being one giant goody bag.
e) raise SS age and start with those born in 1948. Stop kowtowing to effing ARRP
f) make child SSI payments vouchers not cash
g) make EITC payments health savings vouchers not cash
h) corporate tax break for using E-verify (I'd like surcharge for not but it can come to same thing)
i) allow states to implement a parental E-verify for brick and mortar schooling and only have to provide home schooling packets for parents that don't comply.
j) allow states to make it illegal to go to an emergency room for routine medical care.

Posted by: palerider at April 13, 2011 03:37 PM (dkExz)

70 Obama in 2009 - We cannot spend as we please. I'm going to cut the deficit (I inherited -- of course he actually says this) in half.
Obama in 2011 - Yo, rich folk. Pay up. Your time is here.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 13, 2011 03:37 PM (pLTLS)

71 Yo dawg,
I hear you like commissions, so I'm putting a commission in the commission to determine which commission we need!

Posted by: xzibit at April 13, 2011 03:37 PM (DHNp4)

72 If he did say he's going to be around twelve years from now then someone ought to grab the sound bite before the overzealous press scrubs the comment completely.

Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:37 PM (k1rwm)

73 we're in a quogmire in Pokistohn

But we're shooting down flying tanks in Libya. On both sides.

Posted by: any mmoron within booze range at April 13, 2011 03:38 PM (6rX0K)

74 66 Romeo13 -- negative interest?
Posted by: Jean at April 13, 2011 03:36 PM (WkuV6)
At 3000% in all 57 States???? that really adds up FAST!

Posted by: Barrak Obama, Mathematical Sooper Genius at April 13, 2011 03:38 PM (NtXW4)

75 Did he deliver his speech from a Barcalounger? The poor man works so hard.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:38 PM (+vkOU)

76 The most fortunate among us can afford to pay a little more. I don't need another tax cut," he said.
Mr. President even many wealthier folks, don't have tax payer funded vacations, jets , dinners and tax funded homes.
so yeah YOU can afford to pay more, to bad you don't.

Posted by: willow at April 13, 2011 03:38 PM (h+qn8)

77 64
Zerohedge:
$38 Billion In
Cuts? Make That $353 Million

I don't think that's right, and I've never heard another analyst say that. At tops it's somewhat above $28B with the minimum being $15B.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:38 PM (uVLrI)

78 38 Is he saying he's still going to be president in 12 years? Jesus, we're doomed!!!
Posted by: EC at April 13, 2011 03:29 PM (GQ8sn)
Actually you get to like it eventually. Poverty is prosperity. Taxes are contributions. Ignorance is education. Spending is investment. War is kinetic military action.

Posted by: Winston Smith at April 13, 2011 03:39 PM (ny5uA)

79 Why not ask teachers to give up more. The average teacher walks away in twenty years with a pension worth over a million dollars on the backs of the NY tax payer. All, tax free, all. These frickin stupid hippies who could not get a private sector job are all millionaires and he wants to make sure they stay that way, even if they bankrupt the state and the nation.

Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:40 PM (k1rwm)

80 Posted by: ParisParamus at April 13, 2011 03:25 PM (1fwTy)

Thank you Rabbi Hillel!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 03:40 PM (LH6ir)

81 You guys need to stop freaking out about this "Obama thinks he'll still be President in 12 years" thing.

We've been involved in some really tough negotiations with him recently, and he's agreed to step down in 11 years and 363 days, unless he decides that the country really needs him or he doesn't really want to or something.

Posted by: John Boehner at April 13, 2011 03:40 PM (2jQGY)

82 12 years, 10 years, 7 years, whatever. A cup of coffee will be $12 by that time.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 13, 2011 03:40 PM (Z1jiu)

83 Over fourteen different bridges have collapsed in the last hour, because the Republicans failed to act on the President's speech. Why do they hate bridges so much?

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:40 PM (+vkOU)

84 Oui!

Deed you call me, mon cherie!

Posted by: Quog Mire' at April 13, 2011 03:40 PM (jkSbV)

85 Soro's ,Micheal Moore, Gates,Immelt, you Heard Dear Leader,. Pay up!
oh right that doesn't mean you.

Posted by: willow at April 13, 2011 03:41 PM (h+qn8)

86 Jonah Goldberg:

"...I thought it was a breathtaking tour de force of dishonesty and
tendentiousness for all the reasons covered around here. It was also
just weird and annoying. A small gripe: he keeps saying 'win the future'
like it’s a phrase A) everybody understands and B) everyone has a
positive reaction to. Neither is the case.

More substantially, Obama’s speech was just plain reactionary. It was an
amazing about face for a guy who ran in 2008 on a 'yes we can' message
of fundamentally “transforming” America. Now the philosophical thrust of
his approach is that we must not change the America we 'grew up with.'
Uh ok. I guess his 2012 slogan will be 'Let’s All Go Down With the Ship —
Together!' "

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:41 PM (uVLrI)

87 10 year program, 12 year program, doesn't matter. No government promise to cut spending "down the road" has ever been kept. It doesn't matter who is doing the promising, it simply will not happen.

That is why I am waiting on what this 2012 budget will be, not 2013 or down the road. I want to see what 2012 is. If we do not do "real cuts" and major cuts it is all BS.

As for Obama, I hope nobody expected anything other than a pack of lies. I just wish the Republicans would call him on it. The Dems did 8 years (and still counting) of "Bush lied" when Bush never told a single lie. Obama lies every time he opens his mouth. And the only time a Republican called him on it the Party wanted to strangle him.

Posted by: Vic at April 13, 2011 03:41 PM (M9Ie6)

88 Yes let's erase billions worth of debt by hammering teachers.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 03:41 PM (gJNMj)

89 PS I really want to raise taxesPss...can I go golfing now? It's National Golf Day. What is it with you assholes always criticizing me? At least give me that.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 13, 2011 03:42 PM (pLTLS)

90 as soon as I no longer am president and do not need your votes, and most likely there will be a change to republican administration, we will need to make very hard choices.

Posted by: leperous at April 13, 2011 03:42 PM (Q6qGS)

91 27
He's completely post-modern. There is no objective reality, reality is whatever he needs it to be at the moment.

He's posst-reality.

And a shithead.

Posted by: Tex at April 13, 2011 03:43 PM (DhStW)

92
When have these 5-8-10-12 year plans EVER lasted past the next election?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2011 03:43 PM (9daa6)

93 Ace, thanks for watching that pointless crap and providing a quick synopsis.
I refuse to watch the ignorant reprobate,he gives me dyspepsia.

Posted by: gary gulrud at April 13, 2011 03:43 PM (/g2vP)

94 I hate this man so much.

I also hate my fellow Americans who put such a supremely unqualified dolt in the White House.

Posted by: tsj017 at April 13, 2011 03:43 PM (4YUWF)

95 Mmmmm Mmmmm, this is sure some good paste.

Posted by: Present Obama as a child at April 13, 2011 03:44 PM (O/onO)

96 89
Yes let's erase billions worth of debt by hammering teachers.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 03:41 PM (gJNMj)
well they have million dollar tax free pensions. Regular private sector people don't come anywhere near that. In fact many can't even fund their pensions and he's given private sector the ability to stop funding pensions. So the teachers are the rich and they should be taxed on those pensions cause they got them on my back and every other NYer's back and they don't' deserve them, our school system was once the first in the nation and they have ruined the NY School System.

Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:44 PM (k1rwm)

97 He who reads this is deemed a shrew !!!

Posted by: Rémy Legaludec at April 13, 2011 03:44 PM (SZy+Y)

98 Obama's in 2012 Campaign Mode. He should be treated accordingly.

Posted by: nickless at April 13, 2011 03:45 PM (MMC8r)

99 More contradictions over the years from Obama via Jake Tapper.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 13, 2011 03:45 PM (pLTLS)

100 93 When have these 5-8-10-12 year plans EVER lasted past the next election?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2011 03:43 PM (9daa6)
Bah.... we had many worthy 5 Year Plans!

Posted by: U.S.S.R. at April 13, 2011 03:45 PM (NtXW4)

101 Bonus: He also says that if, in 2014, two years after the next election, the CBO's projection doesn't show "the share of the deficit as a fraction of GDP" falling (note that is a lenient way to view it), he is willing to go so far as authorizing the President and Congress to consider further "spending cuts" and "spending reductions."
So congress needs his permission to even consider spending cuts?
Wow...

Posted by: Randy at April 13, 2011 03:46 PM (D0PNd)

102 Relax, fellas. Barry knows where I am and he will use me like there's no tomorrow. Which there may not be, once he really gets going.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve Printing Press at April 13, 2011 03:46 PM (+vkOU)

103
Next Seven Years: WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Spending is fun!

Year Eight: Okay, now we're serious.

Year Eight Plus One Day: WHEEEEEEEEEE!!!! Spending is fun!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 13, 2011 03:46 PM (jkSbV)

104 I love the Drudge headline.

Biden Falls Asleep During Obama Debt Speech?


Bwhahahahahah


Posted by: mpfs at April 13, 2011 03:46 PM (iYbLN)

105 My CoMISSION will beon a MISSION,
To dispense with the WISHIN'
That our lives weren'tGone FISHIN
While the ECONOMY got hit with NUCLEAR FISSION
Caled DEBT - UH! - Me CON, YOU CON
Destroyed like a fiscal UCONN
With a SLAM on the BULLDOGS
So YOU DOGS get NUTHIN!.....
SameAsItEverWas.....

Sorry. Bambi's talks always bring out the rapper in me.

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote, super genius at April 13, 2011 03:46 PM (dOOBu)

106 "No government promise to cut spending "down the road" has ever been kept."

Posted by: Vic at April 13, 2011 03:41 PM (M9Ie6)


This is what we all need to focus on. They are all liars in Washington, and if we don't put their feet to the fire they will keep bullshitting us with platitudes and complex long-range plans that never seem to pan out as planned.

This is not a complex or difficult issue. On the contrary, it is quite simple. The government spends more than we send them. That has to end. Anything more is unnecessary blather designed to confuse the stupid voters (us).


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 03:47 PM (LH6ir)

107 I blessedly timed my errands while Preznit Stumblefuck was speechifying. I was listening to Rush play the first part of the speech (and delivering excellent snark).

Just came back from reading the comments at Politico. They're about 50/50 intelligent, fed-up conservatives, and clueless hipsters, who can absolutely be counted on to vote for their messiah in '12.

And now I have another headache.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2011 03:47 PM (UOM48)

108 I would be willing to trade a 10% tax increase for a look at ALL of B+rrys birf, school, employment, visa, drivers,tax, and college records.

Posted by: torabora at April 13, 2011 03:47 PM (ny5uA)

109 curious,

Go over to Hot Air and check out the latest shenanigans the California Teachers are up to.

Posted by: mpfs at April 13, 2011 03:47 PM (iYbLN)

110 Mmmmm Mmmmm, this is sure some good paste.

President Playdoh McStuntgrowth strikes again.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:47 PM (+vkOU)

111 101 93 When have these 5-8-10-12 year plans EVER lasted past the next election?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2011 03:43 PM (9daa6)
Bah.... we had many worthy 5 Year Plans!
Posted by: U.S.S.R. at April 13, 2011 03:45 PM (NtXW4)
And History tells us they worked so well for Uncle Joe Stalin (according to my childhood Mentors) that we are going one better... a 12 Year Plan!

Posted by: Barrak Obama at April 13, 2011 03:47 PM (NtXW4)

112 I wonder if Barky is going to closely follow the Blue Ribbon Commission in 2024 from his retirement on your dime in Lahore?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 13, 2011 03:48 PM (yQWNf)

113 The reason he has to have another panel to craft another effin solution is the same reason he has so many damn czars. The motherfucker is stoopid, so he needs other people to think for him then tell him what he thinks.
And, when I say stoopid, I mean bumfucking ignorant as hell. The reason he's gotten so bone-ass skinny is because he's alwayspulling so much shit out of his ass. Where the hell does he get his numbers from, and does the ignoramous actually believe that we believe he knows what the hell he's talking about? I don't evenbelieve he reads these speeches before hespews them fromTOTUS. That's why he can't reasonably answer questions he gets in his campaign stops. It's why he tries to laugh them off, and makes condescending bullshit remarks back to people. Hell, he can't give an answer, because he doesn't understand a coherant question.
I don't know how you guys watch that sick fuck. He's the smarmiest, most ignorant waste of skin that has ever set foot in the WH. I don't mean just presidents. I mean any half-ass human that has ever darkened it's doors.Hell, the damn dogs and cats are more intelligent.Even the fucking rodents that dwell there.

Posted by: Steph at April 13, 2011 03:49 PM (AkdC5)

114 who in the hell writes His shit sammiches?

Posted by: willow at April 13, 2011 03:49 PM (h+qn8)

115 Obama's 12 year plan sounds a lot like Mao's 5 year plan. Fundamental Transformation, indeed.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 13, 2011 03:49 PM (71LDo)

116 "Tax code expenditures"

That is Democrat slang for "Rear entry, no lube"

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:49 PM (+vkOU)

117 I gotta admit, when Obama was talking aboot the Republican deficit reduction plan, my dick was harder than Chinese arithmetic as I saw visions of a New York sidewalk in December: A pin-striped pant leg, shoes clad in brilliant white spats, stepping over the frozen body of a destitute senior...

Workhouses where a nimble-fingered child sits at his sewing machine, coughing a bloody-tinged tubercular froth into the handkerchief his mother gave him before being sent to the penal colony for stealing an apple core from a Park Avenue rubbish bin...

A retarded boy mopping his sweat-stained brow, then lowering his broad, rounded shoulder to the wheel, powering the belt-driven ceiling fans on a plantation porch as condensation lazily zigzags down the side of my sterling silver mint julep cup...

So I rushed over to read Paul Ryan's budget plan -

WHAT? WE'RE NOT DOING THAT?!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 13, 2011 03:50 PM (Y0wFY)

118 I wouldn't say that DeMint nailed Obama with this statement. DeMint's statement was good, and he threwthe "bitter clingers" bit right back at Obama, but I want to see someone respond with some cussing. I want to see some real emotion from the right, not just politi-speak. Where's the fire in the belly? DeMint's statement was vanilla ice-cream with a few sprinkles thrown in. Personally, I'm tired of this gentle verbal jousting. We are in the fight for our way of life. I want to seeour leaders, and potential leaders, yell, scream, fuss, cuss, stomp, spit, and generally pitch a fit!

Posted by: Havedash at April 13, 2011 03:50 PM (sFD5n)

119 @116
Well, if he starts using rhetorical devices like "we are on a Long March," I'm going underground.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:51 PM (+vkOU)

120 When have these 5-8-10-12 year plans EVER lasted past the next election?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2011 03:43 PM (9daa6)
I've been fascinated by your five year plan for the last fifteen and a half years!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 03:51 PM (bxiXv)

121 Ha Ha EoJ killing it again!

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 03:51 PM (gJNMj)

122 And now I have another headache.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2011 03:47 PM (UOM4

Start drinking, eventually you'll learn to associate hating Obama with happiness.

Posted by: joncelli at April 13, 2011 03:51 PM (RD7QR)

123
Posted by: Havedash at April 13, 2011 03:50 PM (sFD5n)

I like it. I think it would probably even poll well, at this point.

Posted by: blue star at April 13, 2011 03:51 PM (4OCrT)

124 Posted by: Havedash at April 13, 2011 03:50 PM (sFD5n)
I'd like to see Representative Col. Alan Wests response to this... speech...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2011 03:51 PM (NtXW4)

125 I don't get it. How does Obama authorize anything to happen in 12 years?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 13, 2011 03:52 PM (9eDbm)

126 oh and you can say all you want so what if Glenn Beck is gone. Well, they won, you want to think it's a mutual decision, go ahead. But, if you listen to Beck enough he's giving you clues to let you know that it wasn't. And, he's not on the air this week is he?

A lot of regular people quipped after the speech "oh wow I can't wait to hear what beck thinks about the speech, oh, wait, he's not on anymore".

Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:52 PM (k1rwm)

127 He does not have the authority to hold Congress to anything on this issue and he can't change budget windows through wishful thinking. Congress can change how they budget through budgetary process reform, but it doesn't change the facts of the situation.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:52 PM (uVLrI)

128

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 13, 2011 03:50 PM (Y0wFY)
ROTFLMAO! You're killing me!

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 03:52 PM (G/MYk)

129 120 @116 Well, if he starts using rhetorical devices like "we are on a Long March," I'm going underground.
Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:51 PM (+vkOU)
\Wolverine!

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2011 03:52 PM (NtXW4)

130 Americans have rejected this failed Democrat spending agenda, and
Republicans will continue to lead the way back to American prosperity.”

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:30 PM (uVLrI)


That's not what we learned over the weekend, Mr. DeMint.......you guys agreed to the smoke and mirrors plan that puts us $780 BILLION HIGHER than the 09 levels.

We don't trust you anymore.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 13, 2011 03:53 PM (UK9cE)

131 They really don't care if you don't trust them anymore.

Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:54 PM (k1rwm)

132 What does the standard Imperial uniform look like in the Empire of Jeff? I'm hoping for something out of the 1980 movie "Flash Gordon."

Also, are orphans and widows served at the Imperial mess? I like mine medium rare.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:55 PM (+vkOU)

133 If only half the country weren't below average we wouldn't have this problem.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 03:25 PM (bxiXv)

I see what you did there. Funny.

Posted by: JollyRoger at April 13, 2011 03:55 PM (NCw5u)

134 Yes let's erase billions worth of debt by hammering teachers.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 03:41 PM (gJNMj)
Mabe if fewer teachers thought that it is their God-given right to suck on the public teat by virtue of their cutting and pasting of canned lesson plans from the internet foisted on the American public as actual teaching, we would be less inclined to beat the crap out of them when necessary.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 03:55 PM (LH6ir)

135 Yes let's erase billions worth of debt by hammering teachers.
Posted by: USS Diversity

It's trillions, not billions.
Yes. let's hammer teachers, and any state/local worker contributing to this goernmental special interest complex.
We need to hammer everything in order to have any hope of avoiding being Ireland or Greece

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2011 03:55 PM (6rX0K)

136 I don't know why I'm even upset it's rather absurd to be. He rarely says anything He means . He should be called sir fibs alot.
What amtters at this point is what we see the Republicans DO.

Posted by: willow at April 13, 2011 03:55 PM (h+qn8)

137 Been cleaning house and then mostly lurking. Doesn't seem that I really missed anything by not watching Barky Bitch give another (God, when will it end) speech. Same o, same o.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 03:55 PM (5FMhB)

138 All aboard the DOOM train, children. All are welcome.

If you join my cult, for a limited time only, you get a nifty WE ARE SO BONED t-shirt.

Posted by: Monty at April 13, 2011 03:55 PM (4Pleu)

139 139
All aboard the DOOM train, children. All are welcome.



If you join my cult, for a limited time only, you get a nifty WE ARE SO BONED t-shirt.

Throw in a Bacon-of-the Month club membership, and I'm there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2011 03:57 PM (UOM48)

140 If you join my cult

Do I have to join? I was hoping to be assimilated, or just infected, like a zombie.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:57 PM (+vkOU)

141 Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:52 PM (k1rwm)

Give me a break. This weird Beck love is getting creepy. And the paranoiac ranting about some secret cabal of cable network owners who want him killed is getting a little scary. If he can draw an audience, then he will have a show.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 03:57 PM (LH6ir)

142 this woman should be prosecuted not fired. In this day and age, this had to be deliberate.

Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:57 PM (k1rwm)

143 139

Monty, I am so in.

WAF.

Posted by: shillelagh at April 13, 2011 03:57 PM (Oz4Bj)

144 /starts to sing...
Doom Train, sounding louder
Everyone get on the Doom Train...
eeeeeaaaaa oooooooooo aaaccchhhhkkkkkkk

Posted by: Bill the Cat Stevens at April 13, 2011 03:57 PM (NtXW4)

145 88
...That is
why I am waiting on what this 2012 budget will be, not 2013 or down the
road. I want to see what 2012 is. If we do not do "real cuts" and major
cuts it is all BS.

Framework draft

I believe this is the mark-up version. It has to pass to House before it gets more specific.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:58 PM (uVLrI)

146 Yes let's be like Brazil Mr. President , Lets' drill here drill now.

Posted by: willow at April 13, 2011 03:58 PM (h+qn8)

147 130 120 @116 Well, if he starts using rhetorical devices like "we are on a Long March," I'm going underground.
Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:51 PM (+vkOU)
\Wolverine!
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2011 03:52 PM (NtXW4)

Thats too easy. Look out for "Great Leap" or "Lean Forward" or "We're putting everyone on communial farms, taste starvation plebes." Those are usually the dog whistle dead giveaways.

Posted by: JollyRoger at April 13, 2011 03:58 PM (NCw5u)

148 @89 We appreciate you wanting to bail us out! Keep the tax-free(state) checks coming! 90k/year pensions plus all the golden bennies you can eat is cheap recompense
for our selfless work on behalf of your spawn.

Posted by: Teachers in IL at April 13, 2011 03:58 PM (JZBti)

149 What does the standard Imperial uniform look like in the Empire of Jeff? I'm hoping for something out of the 1980 movie "Flash Gordon."
I want all the women's apparal to copy those in "Flesh Gordon". And then I want Dear Leader to make me young again.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 03:59 PM (5FMhB)

150 I picture Monty standing in a dark haunted house, as an eerie blazing light streams out of the black attic, saying "Go into the Doom! Go into the Doom! All welcome! All welcome!"

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 03:59 PM (+vkOU)

151 Obama Lies, America Dies!

Posted by: Guy Fawkes - contantly picking lib scabs at April 13, 2011 03:59 PM (Z1jiu)

152 Biden apparently kept drifting

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:59 PM (uVLrI)

153 @65 I quit paying into my 401(k) 3 years ago, and could not be happier, as any shared plan with the govt is a plan which can be compromised. One of these days I am going to take the penalty and pull my money out of my IRA, too. It is better to have -10% then have it absorbed into SS. This is the way he will shore up SS, he just can't say it yet, but the liberals cannot take money that has no strings attached to the government away, as easily.

Posted by: The Great and Secret Show at April 13, 2011 03:59 PM (mu7mM)

154 142
Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:52 PM (k1rwm)

Give
me a break. This weird Beck love is getting creepy. And the paranoiac
ranting about some secret cabal of cable network owners who want him
killed is getting a little scary. If he can draw an audience, then he
will have a show.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 03:57 PM (LH6ir)
oh geez i only commented about what a co worker said. What secret cabal of network owners want him killed? I never hear anything about this where did you hear this? And my co workers comment was that she wanted to know what he thought about the speech. She doesn't have any creepy beck love, I don't know anyone who does. I mean he's a fat little man with glasses, there is nothing sexy about him.

Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:59 PM (k1rwm)

155 My original thought was to go with a series of 5 year plans. My advisors almost had a fit and I'm still trying to figure out why.

Posted by: Obama at April 13, 2011 04:00 PM (1URKd)

156 what? now we're commenting soothsayer comments
wow, just wow
(it goes back a long way b/w me and him, just ignore me)

Posted by: YRM (We're Screwed Aren't We?) at April 13, 2011 04:00 PM (UzBwz)

157 Like, we're in a quogmire in Pokistohn.

That's PhakEEEStahn.

Can we please get some adults in Washington? I'm tired of amateur hour.

Posted by: Iblis at April 13, 2011 04:01 PM (9221z)

158 I am proud of Mr. Obama and his strategy to make the US more like the USSR. I drink glass of Vodka to you Mr. Obama !!!!

Posted by: Vlad Lenin at April 13, 2011 04:01 PM (SZy+Y)

159 DeMint: “The
President made it absolutely clear today that Democrats will cling bitterly to
deficit spending until our nation is bankrupt."

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 13, 2011 04:02 PM (tvs2p)

160 Automatic Tax Hike Trigger. I missed that one.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 13, 2011 04:02 PM (Z1jiu)

161 Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:59 PM (k1rwm)
Don't worry about NJRacist's ranting.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 13, 2011 04:02 PM (c45xH)

162 Can we please get some adults in Washington? I'm tired of amateur hour.
Posted by: Iblis at April 13, 2011 04:01 PM (9221z)
Can you just imagine the 'shop talk' amongst the Secret Service Agents??? Gotta be EPIC!

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2011 04:03 PM (NtXW4)

163 Let me be clear: This is a three-step plan:
1. Tax the rich.
2. ???
3. Profit!!!

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 13, 2011 04:05 PM (zgZzy)

164 objective headline of the day

Posted by: Chuckit at April 13, 2011 04:05 PM (G+sxF)

165 Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:59 PM (k1rwm)

I was exaggerating to make my point. He's a talk show host, and a pedant at that. He isn't a font of brilliant analysis; he's just a bit of a populist.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 04:05 PM (LH6ir)

166 Posted by: curious at April 13, 2011 03:57 PM (k1rwm)

Welcome to the wonderful world of socialized medicine.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 04:05 PM (5FMhB)

167 He didn't take questions did he?

Cause I want to know why this is still happening:

Airstrikes by U.S. in Libya continue despite announced shift to support role

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 04:05 PM (penCf)

168 President Obama today faced the issue of debt head on today. A fearless plan of tax increases on the wealthy, military cuts, and medicare solvency that will reduce the budget by a whopping 4 trillion dollars over the next dozen years. George, just how courageous is this plan?

Posted by: Diane Sawyer at April 13, 2011 04:06 PM (UMRed)

169 Greg to tell us why us brave conservatives should back this plan in 3...2...1...

Posted by: YRM (We're Screwed Aren't We?) at April 13, 2011 04:06 PM (UzBwz)

170 So....

Pretend spending cuts seven years from now.

Bold.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 13, 2011 04:06 PM (gDbxE)

171 From a retarded 52%er at Politico (grab a barf bag and a bottle of Valu-Rite):

President Obama is right! We cannot expect seniors, and the disabled,
to pay more for their healthcare- just so Republicans can give their
rich friends more taxcuts!For 11 years now, the rich have gotten
HUGEtaxcuts!11 years seems long enough!

I'm ready for the camps. When do the trucks begin arriving?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2011 04:06 PM (UOM48)

172 Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 13, 2011 04:02 PM (c45xH)

Eh?

What happened? You slapped daddy's dick out of your ass long enough to type for a few seconds?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 04:07 PM (LH6ir)

173 Posted by: Diane Sawyer at April 13, 2011 04:06 PM (UMRed)
YahooNews already salivating all over this

Posted by: YRM (We're Screwed Aren't We?) at April 13, 2011 04:07 PM (UzBwz)

174 Automatic Tax Hike Trigger. I missed that one.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes

What??? If we spend too much taxes automatically increase? Is this a gag?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2011 04:07 PM (6rX0K)

175 My favorite part:

Out: I am calling for new taxes

In: I am calling for spending reductions in the tax code

Be sure to update your Democrat to English translator and use this opportunity to make sure that the following are up to date:

Terrorism- Man Caused Disasters
War- Kinetic Military Action
Spend- Invest

Posted by: Prez'nit Vacation at April 13, 2011 04:07 PM (3nrx7)

176 President Obama is right! We cannot expect seniors, and the disabled, to pay more for their healthcare - just so Republicans can give their rich friends more taxcuts! For 11 years now , the rich have gotten HUGE taxcuts ! 11 years seems long enough!

"Also, I just pooped myself!"

Posted by: Monty at April 13, 2011 04:08 PM (4Pleu)

177 No kidding--million dollar pensions and lessons off the Internet. My wife must be at the wrong school. I really don't get her votes for Republicans and NRA membership. Something is incongruent here.
Oh, well, off to helpfree Mumia.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 04:08 PM (gJNMj)

178 He isn't a font of brilliant analysis; he's just a bit of a populist.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 04:05 PM (LH6ir)
Beck's analysis among the sharpest around. He usually identifies the meat of the problem and explains it in terms that most people can understand easily. There are but a few in the public arena who even come close to Beck's analytical prowess.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 04:08 PM (G/MYk)

179 Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2011 04:06 PM (UOM4
part of the 52% but doesn't sound like a squishy indy to me, just an idiotic lefty who has no sense of History or consequences, ask Herber Hoover just how great taxing the rich worked...NOT

Posted by: YRM (We're Screwed Aren't We?) at April 13, 2011 04:08 PM (UzBwz)

180 Dr. Price is defending the 2012 Budget before the Rules Committee, and he's getting support from Rules.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 04:08 PM (uVLrI)

181 168
He didn't take questions did he?

Cause I want to know why this is still happening:

Airstrikes by U.S. in Libya continue despite announced shift to support role


Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 04:05 PM (penCf)

Silly girl. That's Smart Diplomacy™ right there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2011 04:08 PM (UOM48)

182 Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 04:08 PM (G/MYk)
*facepalm*

Posted by: YRM (We're Screwed Aren't We?) at April 13, 2011 04:09 PM (UzBwz)

183 The president speaks, says very little
It was rather embarrassing in what it did offer: negotiations with Joe Biden, more defense cuts and taxes on the rich. How utterly trite.You knew he was going nowhere by the fist half of his speech which was a condescending review of how we spilled so much ink:





But after Democrats and Republicans committed to fiscal discipline
during the 1990s, we lost our way in the decade that followed. We
increased spending dramatically for two wars and an expensive
prescription-drug program — but we didn’t pay for any of this new
spending. Instead, we made the problem worse with trillions of dollars
in unpaid-for tax cuts — tax cuts that went to every millionaire and
billionaire in the country; tax cuts that will force us to borrow an
average of $500 billion every year over the next decade.




He left out the part in which he spent trillions in his first two years. He mostly wants us to know it’s not his fault:





When I took office, our projected deficit was more than $1 trillion.
On top of that, we faced a terrible financial crisis and a recession
that, like most recessions, led us to temporarily borrow even more. In
this case, we took a series of emergency steps that saved millions of
jobs, kept credit flowing, and provided working families extra money in
their pockets. It was the right thing to do, but these steps were
expensive, and added to our deficits in the short term.


Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 04:09 PM (penCf)

184 Boner on hannity

Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2011 04:09 PM (RebBV)

185 He didn't take questions did he?Cause I want to know why this is still happening:Airstrikes by U.S. in Libya continue despite announced shift to support role
Posted by: momma

Why are ANY airstrikes happening, unless they are to actually enforce a no-fly zone or prevent a humanitarian disaster?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2011 04:09 PM (6rX0K)

186 Cause I want to know why this is still happening


Same reason why Gitmo's still open. Obama is a liar.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 04:10 PM (zgZzy)

187 Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 04:08 PM (gJNMj)

So your study of teachers has an n of 1.

Impressive. You must be a teacher of statistics.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 04:10 PM (LH6ir)

188 175 Automatic Tax Hike Trigger. I missed that one.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes

What??? If we spend too much taxes automatically increase? Is this a gag?
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2011 04:07 PM (6rX0K)

Sounds like the liberal plan of feeding the beast codified. I propose, and I know this is probably the 3 martini lunch and sleeping pills talking, but how about if we miss our spending goals, we quit spending. Automatically. Eventually I know my plan will happen, its just the Chinese who get to say when the automatic cuts begin.

Posted by: JollyRoger at April 13, 2011 04:12 PM (NCw5u)

189 Didn't Preznit Indonesia say he would cut taxes?

Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2011 04:12 PM (RebBV)

190 Shut up and listen America. This thing in your rectum ain't no tinkertoy. I'm fixing to ride you all the way to the abyss. I know some of you feel like cheering, but keep it down. It's the anguish of patriots and the death throes of liberty that really get me off.

Posted by: O with his O face on at April 13, 2011 04:12 PM (AYDSU)

191 Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 04:08 PM (G/MYk)

I don't see it, but I also didn't watch or listen enough to have a good sample of his stuff. What I heard was a slightly paranoid populist who seemed always to hint at hidden agendas and nefarious purposes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 04:12 PM (LH6ir)

192 When I took office, our projected deficit was more than $1 trillion. On top of that, we faced a terrible financial crisis and a recession that, like most recessions, led us to temporarily borrow even more. In this case, we took a series of emergency steps that saved millions of jobs, kept credit flowing, and provided working families extra money in their pockets. It was the right thing to do, but these steps were expensive, and added to our deficits in the short term.
Posted by: momma

Did I leave out starting yet another war, bombing the Gulf of Mexico economically and beign a all purpose douche?

Posted by: The Manufactured Messiah at April 13, 2011 04:12 PM (6rX0K)

193 Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 04:09 PM (penCf)
he didn't mention how we went from 500 billion a year in deficits under Dubya to almost 2 trillion in deficits under him; or that he spent more then Washington to Dubya combined

Posted by: YRM (We're Screwed Aren't We?) at April 13, 2011 04:12 PM (UzBwz)

194 Obama Calls For Automatic Tax Increases If Deficit Isn’t CurbedIn anticipation of the unlikelihood of reaching a deal if Republicans
hold firm to a no-tax stance, Obama’s plan calls for a “debt fail-safe”
mechanism that would kick in on October 1, 2013, if the deficit is not
declining as a percentage of the gross domestic product by then.
Significantly, this fail-safe would trigger not only across-the-board
spending cuts (with Social Security, Medicare and certain programs for
the poor exempted) but also an automatic tax hike through reductions in
“spending through the tax code”—meaning tax expenditures.
The tax component is in there, a senior administration official said in
a briefing, “to provide the appropriate incentive for everyone to act.”

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 04:13 PM (penCf)

195 I have listened to the president's proposal, and just when I think he can't be any more stupid . . . HE TOTALLY REDEEMS HIMSELF!!!

Posted by: John Boneyfingers at April 13, 2011 04:13 PM (zgZzy)

196 Hensarling: I left the White House meeting with Obama thinking, "I
skipped lunch for this?"

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 04:13 PM (uVLrI)

197 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 04:12 PM (LH6ir)
AGREED

Posted by: YRM (We're Screwed Aren't We?) at April 13, 2011 04:13 PM (UzBwz)

198 do as I say not as I do
-Obama

Posted by: YRM (We're Screwed Aren't We?) at April 13, 2011 04:14 PM (UzBwz)

199 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 04:10 PM (LH6ir)

The problem with the "Let's take away the teachers' pensions" is that those plans work differently state-by-state and are, indeed, state programs. So, unless USSD's wife is, specifically, an NY Teacher, your statement about "million dollar, untaxed" pensions is probably incorrect.

Here in TX, you get some percent (80, maybe?) of the average of your 3 highest paid years. For life. And you're still allowed to purchase insurance from the Teachers Retirement System health plan. I do not believe that income is un-taxed, either.

However, the point does, indeed, remain that public sector employees' retirement benefits are, in general, far too generous, and good place to start balancing our budgets would be with those retirement benefits.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 13, 2011 04:15 PM (8y9MW)

200 Is this the jump the shark moment? I am skeptical that the indies are going to buy even a small part of this weak tea.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 13, 2011 04:15 PM (gDbxE)

201 Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 04:09 PM (penCf)

All that to say "It's Bush's fault". What a douche.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 04:15 PM (5FMhB)

202 Yeah, screw the rich!!! Now where did I put my million-dollar bill?

Posted by: John Kerry at April 13, 2011 04:16 PM (zgZzy)

203 This is what happens when you elect an invertebrate to the White House.

We need some kind of constitutional amendment to require that eligibility for Presidential office demand you at least belong to the class Mammalia.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 04:16 PM (+vkOU)

204 MFM (drooling on itself): Ohhhhh what a bold plan by our Dear Leader! He bravely spells out tough decisions that must be made and save us all from the EVIL Republicans. He's just sooooooo wonderful he should be president for life

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 13, 2011 04:16 PM (1Jaio)

205 Is this the jump the shark moment? I am skeptical that the indies are going to buy even a small part of this weak tea.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)

See the rant on indies yesterday. Most of them are indies because they are weak willed, dumb, lazyand vain.

Posted by: The Manufactured Messiah at April 13, 2011 04:17 PM (6rX0K)

206 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 04:07 PM (LH6ir)
Good to see your Klan robe doesn't interfere with your typing.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 13, 2011 04:18 PM (c45xH)

207 Yeah, screw the rich!!! Now where did I put my million-dollar bill?
Posted by: John Kerry

Just keep the screws away from the teak on my 'boat'.

Posted by: Sen. Lurch (D-Cambodia) at April 13, 2011 04:18 PM (6rX0K)

208 Dude! So much blather and nothing substantial to say. I thought he was supposed to be presenting his spending plan, contra Ryan.
All I heard was blah-blah-blah-”reduction in tax code spending” (i.e. our taxes need to go up), and the big finish where he contended that this added up to 4 trillion saved over 10 years; 2 million from spending reductions in, er, spending, 1 trillion in interest savings, and another trillion via tax increases...
Did I miss something or am I just that dense?

Posted by: Bob Reed at April 13, 2011 04:19 PM (2dlWi)

209 like most recessions, led us to temporarily borrow even more.

That is a lie.

There was nothing temporary about it--they took the Crapulus and the '09 budget and made it the new baseline. Just as we knew they would.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 13, 2011 04:19 PM (gDbxE)

210 Give me a break. This weird Beck love is getting creepy. And the
paranoiac ranting about some secret cabal of cable network owners who
want him killed is getting a little scary. If he can draw an audience,
then he will have a show.

At the time of his cancellation, he had higher ratings than all other news programs in his slot COMBINED.

I suspect from here on in the commies and their corporate suck-ups will have more money and more decisionmaking power than anyone who isn't a commie, and they're going to ride this sucker all the way down, right to the point where we can't afford to buy cat food to eat and have to resort to eating cats.

Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at April 13, 2011 04:19 PM (xynpv)

211 If your blood pressure can stand it, Boehner is on Hannity talking about "our plan to raise the debt limit".

Yay! He's bravely leading us into boldly giving Obama more money and claiming he's saved us again.

Posted by: Damiano at April 13, 2011 04:20 PM (3nrx7)

212 resort to eating cats.

There's a resort where you eat cats?

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 13, 2011 04:20 PM (UqKQV)

213 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 13, 2011 04:07 PM (LH6ir)
Good to see your Klan robe doesn't interfere with your typing.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama
Yeah, Klan robes reallyinterfere withyour voting too. Oh wait.... voting was hampered by the club wielding New (and improved!) Black Panthers.

Posted by: Sen. Lurch (D-Cambodia) at April 13, 2011 04:21 PM (6rX0K)

214 “unfunded tax cuts” is akin to the pay-go legerdermaine, where they just ignore it when it’s inconvenient...
This requires pushback, for sure. We can’t allow them to hijack the language to cement the notion that somehow all the money in our economy is property of the government, and they graciously decide how much to allow us to keep.
We have to demand an explanation, along the lines of a simple question: “Jay Carney, can you explain what the President means, what is the difference between a ‘funded’ and ‘unfunded’ tax cut?”
Because, as Jeff at Protein Wisdomalways notes, this is a question of twisting the language to suit a propagandistic purpose. But in this case it provides an excellent point of departure for a larger discussion on liberty in general. If people agree that the government can’t decide what one is allowed to keep of one’s earnings, then it wouldn’t be too great a leap to proving to them that their rights are a function of their being, and not bestowed on them by the government.
But, then, I’m a racist a priori, I guess, for not automatically swooning over ObaMao’s speecifying.

Posted by: Bob Reed at April 13, 2011 04:21 PM (2dlWi)

215 Let me be clear: I got nuthin', but Ryan's plan is terrible.

Posted by: Barry Obudget at April 13, 2011 04:21 PM (zgZzy)

216 I pretty much think anyone who "blames bush" after themselves practically doubling the deficit and pretends the Dems didn't take over Congress in 2006/2007 should probably be fired, *lightly* killed, and served in a white wine sauce at $100 a plate, proceeds going to pay down the deficit.

Look at spending and deficits pre-Dem takeover and post-Dem takeover. Anyone who votes for Democrats now is a tax sponge or a fucking idiot, or both.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 04:21 PM (bxiXv)

217 Boehner is on Hannity talking about "our plan to raise the debt limit"

There is no hill to die upon. That would not be pragmatic.

Somehow the House won't be quite ready to really push for Ryan's plan, the time won't be quite right... Just wait a little longer.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 04:22 PM (+vkOU)

218 resort to eating cats.There's a resort where you eat cats?
Posted by: SantaRosaStan

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Posted by: Sen. Lurch (D-Cambodia) at April 13, 2011 04:22 PM (6rX0K)

219 186 He didn't take questions did he?Cause I want to know why this is still happening:Airstrikes by U.S. in Libya continue despite announced shift to support role
Posted by: momma

Why are ANY airstrikes happening, unless they are to actually enforce a no-fly zone or prevent a humanitarian disaster?
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2011 04:09 PM (6rX0K)

And where are ourGOP leaders on this? Damn it! The left beat GWB senseless for 8 years for trying to protect us from muslim savages. Now jug-ears has our military bombing Libya so the same sombitches that we are fighting elsewhere can take over a whole country! And Bohner, et al, has nothing to say about it. I'm really begining to despise this bunch of pansies. Also, I knew when the media was throwing out all the headlines of how Bohner really took Reid and Obama to the cleaners, that it was really the other way around. ARGH!!!

Posted by: Havedash at April 13, 2011 04:23 PM (sFD5n)

220 There's a resort where you eat cats?

There will be. There will be.

Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at April 13, 2011 04:24 PM (xynpv)

221 Get that? If, in 12 years, his plan hasn't worked yet, he'll actually
call for a third-party blue-ribbon commission to propose some more
changes.

So, President for Life then?

Posted by: toby928™ at April 13, 2011 04:24 PM (GTbGH)

222 218
...Somehow the House won't be quite ready to really push for Ryan's plan,
the time won't be quite right... Just wait a little longer.

Ryan tutored them for months, so I expect them to be ready. This is a hill to die on.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 04:24 PM (uVLrI)

223 The phrase "spending reductions in the tax code" should be added to the very long Articles of Impeachment for the Indonesian. It is an intentional lie (if one can term a nonsensical phrase a "lie" - though we know what the retard means) that shows nothing but contempt for America and the American governmental organization. Displays of contempt for our nation and our institutions is impeachable, as it goes against the whole "protect and defend the Constitution" clause of the oath.

Of course, the GOP has let the Indonesian get away with calling welfare checks dispensed by the IRS "tax cuts" so they almost encouraged the America-hater to jump to this new level of contemptuous verbiage.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 04:25 PM (G/MYk)

224 Give me a break. This weird Beck love is getting creepy. And the paranoiac ranting about some secret cabal of cable network owners who want him killed is getting a little scary. If he can draw an audience, then he will have a show.

He's the only voice in the tv news business to take a risk and tell us in easily understood terms what this regime in the WH now is really up to. Everything that's coming to pass now, he was warning us aboutfour years ago. I've come to trust what he says. Same goes for Rush and Levin.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 04:26 PM (5FMhB)

225 Romney blasts out a response....
“President Obama’s proposals are too little, too late. Instead of supporting spending cuts that lead to real deficit reduction and true reform of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, the President dug deep into his liberal playbook for ‘solutions’ highlighted by higher taxes. With over 20 million people who are unemployed or who have stopped looking for work, the last thing we should be doing is raising taxes on job-creators, entrepreneurs, and small business owners across America.”
Hitting back hard at deWon, are you? I mean that was so detailed, and illuminating.

Posted by: Steph at April 13, 2011 04:27 PM (AkdC5)

226 >>So, President for Life then?

Yes. For yours.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2011 04:27 PM (TMB3S)

227 >>Hitting back hard at deWon, are you? I mean that was so detailed, and illuminating.

As opposed to who's detailed rebuttal?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2011 04:28 PM (TMB3S)

228 Hitting back hard at deWon, are you? I mean that was so detailed, and illuminating.


Don't worry, he'll fold fall in line soon enough.

Posted by: The GOP at April 13, 2011 04:28 PM (zgZzy)

229 As opposed to who's detailed rebuttal?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2011 04:28 PM (TMB3S)
Anyone that could pull that drivel out their ass, but you're right. He did make a half-assed appearance for a change.

Posted by: Steph at April 13, 2011 04:29 PM (AkdC5)

230 Huh. Automatic taxes. So drive the country into the dirt and raise taxes---redistributing income. Of course, that drives the american economy farther into the dirt until Utopia is reached? Is that the idea?

Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2011 04:32 PM (RebBV)

231 Of course his plan will work. He has an awesome pants crease!

Posted by: David Brooks at April 13, 2011 04:32 PM (xUqWT)

232 He's the only voice in the tv news business to take a risk and tell us in easily understood terms what this regime in the WH now is really up to. Everything that's coming to pass now, he was warning us aboutfour years ago. I've come to trust what he says. Same goes for Rush and Levin.
yep

Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2011 04:33 PM (RebBV)

233 Huh. Automatic taxes. So drive the country into the dirt and raise taxes---redistributing income. Of course, that drives the american economy farther into the dirt until Utopia is reached? Is that the idea?
Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2011 04:32 PM (RebBV)

You got it, hon. Say, what are you doing after 2012?

Posted by: Barak the Hussein at April 13, 2011 04:35 PM (5FMhB)

234 You want spending reductions in the tax code? Fire the IRS.

Posted by: California Tower at April 13, 2011 04:35 PM (QF8uk)

235 I am kind of heartened that Oblabla is NOT making a decent attempt to appear to triangulate. Now if we can just get a decent GOP candidate to oppose him.

Posted by: palerider at April 13, 2011 04:36 PM (dkExz)

236 Andddd.....
1 Trillion of the 'cuts' is in Interest Payments on the debt itself?
While not cutting the Principle of said debt? and in fact, with the debt
still increasing?
Does this idiot NOT understand the basics of Compound Interest?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 13, 2011 03:28 PM (NtXW4)
And he can do that with interest rates certain to rise as the NPV of Treasuries falling with each round of QE! Wait, what??

Posted by: ExExZonie at April 13, 2011 04:42 PM (xUqWT)

237
228 >>Hitting back hard at deWon, are you? I mean that was so detailed, and illuminating. As opposed to who's detailed rebuttal?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2011 04:28 PM (TMB3S)
Screw the detailed rebuttals! I'll stand with the person who calls this post turtle a damned fool, ignorant poser, pansie-assed nancy-boy who's never lifted his hand to do a damned thing in his life, a socialist commie, half whiterace-bater, a hypocrite, a liar, and a disgrace to the office of the president! Where's the GOP version of Charlie Sheen...less the coke and women, of course. Screw the gentile wordsmithing. I want to see a GOP warlock let lose with aflaming torpedo of truth!

Posted by: Havedash at April 13, 2011 04:44 PM (sFD5n)

238 I checked the comments on the NYT coverage of the speech. His liberal base is eating it up--no critical thought whatsoever.

Posted by: Grim at April 13, 2011 04:45 PM (gyNYk)

239 How he gives those speaches with astraight face is amazing. He can't believe understand his own bullshit.

Posted by: Talibill at April 13, 2011 03:30 PM (WEWGu)
FIFY

Posted by: ExExZonie at April 13, 2011 04:46 PM (xUqWT)

240 I have not yet begun to bone you!

Posted by: John Paul Obama at April 13, 2011 04:50 PM (XBM1t)

241 Here's my "Roadmap" on steroids

Eliminate:

Dept of Education
Dept of Energy
Dept of Labor
Dept of Agriculture
Dept of Homeland Security
Dept of HHS
Dept of Transportation
Dept of HUD

Defund the EPA, OSHA, FDA, USDA, etc.

Suspend
Medicare. Any senior who can afford it can buy insurance, otherwise
they get vouchers to do the same.

Stop Social Security. Any senior who
needs income that badly can apply for charity (see below).

Stop Medicaid. Offer insurance vouchers pending drug tests.

Stop welfare. Offer dollar-for-dollar tax credits to charities to help support indigent people who are worthy!

End food stamps, rent subsidies, and a zillion other forms of wealth transfer.

Cut regulations by 2/3! Drill baby drill! Watch our economy grow again!

Posted by: ExExZonie at April 13, 2011 04:53 PM (xUqWT)

242 153
Biden apparently kept driftingPosted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 03:59 PM (uVLrI)

Why does the Bamster hate befuddled old timers?

Posted by: ya2daup at April 13, 2011 04:58 PM (FcKXR)

243 President Wimpy: I'll gladly spend more today for a spending cut next Tuesday.

Speaker Boehner: Make it Sunday and you've got yourself a deal!

Posted by: Joe at April 13, 2011 05:04 PM (6M1XE)

244 12 years? Maybe he sees himself as the next FDR.

Posted by: Anony at April 13, 2011 05:04 PM (Yigvc)

245 3, I seem to notice him saying that if his proposed order to reduce Medicare costs does not reduce costs (which it won't, same as it didn't with ObamaCare -- premiums are going up, not down) by the year 2023, then, get this, he will authorize "the Commission" (I think the Medicare trustees or something) to propose further means of reducing costs.


I'm no math whiz.... but it kinda sounds like Obama expects to be in office for a lot longer than the 2-term Presidential limit allows.
But I'm told their are like 53 states or something, so what do I know?

Posted by: krakatoa at April 13, 2011 05:06 PM (MruVg)

246 242 Also everything for the "arts" as well as Pell grants, etc. I also want state vouchers for parents who can't send their kids to public schools because they suck.

Posted by: dagny at April 13, 2011 05:09 PM (RebBV)

247 This would not be happening if Mike Castle were in the Senate.


See, I told you this was Palin's fault.

Posted by: Lisa Murkookski, crack whore of the tundra and "head" of the RINO caucus at April 13, 2011 05:12 PM (onxiv)

248 154
@65 I quit paying into my 401(k) 3 years ago, and could not be happier,
as any shared plan with the govt is a plan which can be compromised.
One of these days I am going to take the penalty and pull my money out
of my IRA, too. It is better to have -10% then have it absorbed into
SS. This is the way he will shore up SS, he just can't say it yet, but
the liberals cannot take money that has no strings attached to the
government away, as easily.


I'm telling you, the only thing that's safe is gold in a strong box buried on a desert island.

Posted by: Long John Silver at April 13, 2011 05:18 PM (onxiv)

249 Paul Ryan's Response

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 05:19 PM (uVLrI)

250 Pockistahn. Pocki-Pocki-Pockistahn.

I'm a super-smarty. What's that? No, I won't release my college transcripts.

Pocki-Pocki-Pockistahn. Smarty, smarty me.

Posted by: Jugears McFuckStick at April 13, 2011 05:53 PM (QcFbt)

251 The French pronunciation would be quog meer. Saying quog mire is just plain fucking retarded.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 13, 2011 06:02 PM (mHQ7T)

252 Obama: Malaise for thee but not for me.

Posted by: Rocks at April 13, 2011 06:05 PM (Q1lie)

253 All aboard the DOOM train, children. All are welcome. If you join my cult, for a limited time only, you get a nifty WE ARE SO BONED t-shirt.
Posted by: Monty at April 13, 2011 03:55 PM (4Pleu)
What about those of us who were the founding members of DOOM!? Wait, don't tell me, we're just boned.

Posted by: steveegg at April 13, 2011 06:14 PM (o44nj)

254 When have these 5-8-10-12 year plans EVER lasted past the next election?
How quickly you forget...and abit of advice for Obamaif and when blaming the richno longer works you can try blaming the wreckers.

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