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GOP Officials Just Can't Quit Making Racial Jokes About Barack and Michelle Obama
Rusty DePass is under fire for his Michelle Obama gorilla comment on Facebook. The gorilla comment has been since followed by DePass issuing an apology by saying “[t]he comment was clearly in jest”. DePass, a GOP activist and former chairman of his state’s elections commission, wrote of the First Lady Michelle Obama on Facebook this weekend. First, an aide to state Attorney General Henry McMaster had authored a Facebook post about the escape of a gorilla from Riverbanks Zoo Friday. DePass then posted the following response on Facebook: “I’m sure it’s just one of Michelle’s ancestors - probably harmless”. DePass reportedly told WIS News thereafter: “I am as sorry as I can be if I offended anyone. The comment was clearly in jest."Um, yes, it was clearly in jest, which is immaterial. All jokes are "in jest," by definition. Letterman's tween-rape-fantasy jokes are also "in jest." That doesn't change the fact that some jokes rely on taboo, offensive, or over-the-line suggestions to make their "in jest" point. Funny ha-ha number two:
Newscoma posted details of a racist email sent from Sherri Goforth, legislative aid for Sen. Diane Black (R-Gallatin). The email depicts the Presidents of the United States with President Barack Obama as a pair of eyes in a black background. I spoke with Sherri Goforth minutes ago to confirm she sent this email. She confirmed she had sent it and also said she had received a letter of reprimand from her superiors but said she will stay on the job. ... “I went on the wrong email and I inadvertently hit the wrong button,” Goforth told NIT. “I’m very sick about it, and it’s one of those things I can’t change or take back.”"Wrong button." Okay. Eh, I don't feel like launching into a lecture. Either you think this is acceptable public behavior or you don't. I guess I'd point out that the MSM, and a good fraction of the public, has this image of Republicans as racists, and some Republicans are far more to blame for this state of things than the MSM. So, yeah, slam the MSM for bias and all that or for highlighting Republican scandals of this sort while giving Democrats a pass. There's truth in that. But no one should have any illusions that this stuff isn't exactly made up out of thin air, and we have a lot of our fellow conservatives and Republicans to thank.
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KILL THEM!!!!!!!
Posted by: Ahmadinejad at June 16, 2009 03:58 PM (ngD76)
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Well, how about this joke then.
I was noticing all the talk about Michelle's arms. All of the flattering comments, all of the fawning praise. Yet, I wonder what the press would say if Laura Bush had arms like Michelle Obama.
I can see it now: President's Wife Does Steroids.
I was noticing all the talk about Michelle's arms. All of the flattering comments, all of the fawning praise. Yet, I wonder what the press would say if Laura Bush had arms like Michelle Obama.
I can see it now: President's Wife Does Steroids.
Posted by: Jack at June 16, 2009 04:01 PM (Ss83y)
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Call me when they start throwing Oreos at him.
Posted by: Michael Steele at June 16, 2009 04:02 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: TiNa48 at June 16, 2009 04:04 PM (rcAOq)
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According to the 'non-believers', aka democrats, we all evolved from the ape so the man simply told the truth about O'Dumbo's not far removed from theapemate.
Posted by: Scrapiron at June 16, 2009 04:04 PM (1kwr2)
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Its true. This crap doesn't help and its a sorry reflection on some folks mindset. Firing offense, if you ask me.
Posted by: Fred at June 16, 2009 04:04 PM (O7Waf)
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Two words "Gilded Sasquatch" - people who live in glass houses and all that...
For the record, I thought the Gilded Sasquatch comment was hysterical
For the record, I thought the Gilded Sasquatch comment was hysterical
Posted by: BuckNutty at June 16, 2009 04:04 PM (ZY6M2)
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In before the inevitable racists show up to tell us that this is no big deal.
Seriously- what the hell were they thinking? Sure, jokes are just jokes, but when you are in a position to represent a group- the Republican party in this case- making even borderline racist jokes is not acceptable.
Fire the both of them- if not for the nature of the "joke",then for being too fucking stupid and irresponsible to belong in any position of responsibility.
Seriously- what the hell were they thinking? Sure, jokes are just jokes, but when you are in a position to represent a group- the Republican party in this case- making even borderline racist jokes is not acceptable.
Fire the both of them- if not for the nature of the "joke",then for being too fucking stupid and irresponsible to belong in any position of responsibility.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 04:05 PM (plsiE)
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I don't know if I would call them GOP "officials" - a legislative aid and a former elections commission chairman - but yes those were definitely tasteless and offensive and shouldn't have been said. You would never see the real Republican party leaders say those things or spreading those emails on facebook or whatever.
I would also consider the timing. After Letterman's "jokes" MSM seems to be saying "well, Republicans make racial jokes so there!"
I would also consider the timing. After Letterman's "jokes" MSM seems to be saying "well, Republicans make racial jokes so there!"
Posted by: Adrienne at June 16, 2009 04:06 PM (13T2s)
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fucking imbeciles.
time for a directive from steele to all GOPers: STFU with teh racist horseshit you fuckign idiots.
time for a directive from steele to all GOPers: STFU with teh racist horseshit you fuckign idiots.
Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 16, 2009 04:07 PM (5r0Tz)
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This post doesn't invite racial humor at all, no sirree.
Posted by: Ace's Ban Hammer, hovering like the sword of Damacles at June 16, 2009 04:08 PM (wU8X9)
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It is true. My sister votes liberal for the sole reason that -- thanks in large part to comments made by various family members -- that Republicans are a bunch of bigoted country club jackets who wear salmon pink jackets without irony and talk about the "blacks."
Posted by: Scout at June 16, 2009 04:08 PM (7Uoki)
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These idiots are juvenile and need to be fired. There isn't any acceptable excuse for people in their positions that justifies their behavior.
Posted by: laddy at June 16, 2009 04:09 PM (kcuW8)
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Idiots, the both of them, and anyone who makes excuses for them is just as big an idiot.
Posted by: Phil Smith at June 16, 2009 04:09 PM (n+cpx)
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That means no more Klingon jokes!
Posted by: Michelle Obama's bat'leh at June 16, 2009 04:09 PM (E+oQ7)
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I agree with Ace, that stuff is just weapons grade stupid. I also despise the "if I offended anyone" shitick - listen moron, you KNOW someone was offended, so either offer a straight up apology or don't (which is also advice Letterman SHOULD have followed).
Posted by: Harry Callahan at June 16, 2009 04:10 PM (fagDq)
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To #8 Ido believe those are rasict and horrible jokes. Don't want you to think I'm racist because I said the thing about them not being GOP officials.
Posted by: Adrienne at June 16, 2009 04:10 PM (aa5rL)
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I don't see the problem. Ace is obviously a crypto race baiter for posting this. Oh, and ban Blazer.
Posted by: Nigel, the Racial Purity Troll at June 16, 2009 04:11 PM (wU8X9)
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We need this like a Clorox enema. We should demand that these idiots resign, or immediately begin impeachment proceedings. Way to confirm the racist stereotypes that some swing voters have about the party, assholes. We can't expect people to consider the Republican party to be the "party of ideas" when we're making racist monkey and black guy jokes. There should be a zero-tolerance policy for this type of idiocy.
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 16, 2009 04:11 PM (fWF4Q)
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Fire them.
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at June 16, 2009 04:13 PM (w41GQ)
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Can we just ditch the fucking GOP PLEASE? Nobody wants to vote Republican anyway.
Posted by: Rip at June 16, 2009 04:13 PM (3jqN0)
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If monkeys, apes and gorillas were white, there would be no problem making a comparison with humans.
Even so, as a child, parents and others would frequently exclaim that I was bouncing, climbing, etc. around like a monkey.
And you're right, comparing Michelle Obama to any animal, except a Unicorn, dolphin, cheetah, (you know, some thing thrilling) is totally unacceptable.
OTOH, she looks like a Klingon female after plastic surgery. Kraplachg!
Even so, as a child, parents and others would frequently exclaim that I was bouncing, climbing, etc. around like a monkey.
And you're right, comparing Michelle Obama to any animal, except a Unicorn, dolphin, cheetah, (you know, some thing thrilling) is totally unacceptable.
OTOH, she looks like a Klingon female after plastic surgery. Kraplachg!
Posted by: Jack at June 16, 2009 04:13 PM (Ss83y)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at June 16, 2009 04:13 PM (wnU1W)
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And I am digging up all the info I can on all of you wingnuts so that we can get you fired from your jobs for being racist creationists!
Posted by: Irish Rose at June 16, 2009 04:15 PM (wnU1W)
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Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 04:05 PM (plsiE)
What you said +
It's not like a day goes by that this administration does not do something completly off the wall that you could either joke about or just flat out ridcule with crushing tons of sarcasm.
What you said +
It's not like a day goes by that this administration does not do something completly off the wall that you could either joke about or just flat out ridcule with crushing tons of sarcasm.
Posted by: Roadking at June 16, 2009 04:15 PM (5iCsF)
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Ridiculous and pathetic.
The funny thing is Newscoma there who got the scoop on the second "funny ha ha"is linked on my own personal blog. She's very much a small time lib bloggerwho I keep in contact with because she is most definately good people, all politics aside. She's very civil,doesn't descend into hackery, and is sincere on what she believes.
So it's a friend who broke this, and while I know this is... not of the good...I can't help but be a little happy for her. (I know I'm asking for a flaming. So be it.)
But if you're pissed about the whole thing, take it out on the jackasses who deserve it.
The funny thing is Newscoma there who got the scoop on the second "funny ha ha"is linked on my own personal blog. She's very much a small time lib bloggerwho I keep in contact with because she is most definately good people, all politics aside. She's very civil,doesn't descend into hackery, and is sincere on what she believes.
So it's a friend who broke this, and while I know this is... not of the good...I can't help but be a little happy for her. (I know I'm asking for a flaming. So be it.)
But if you're pissed about the whole thing, take it out on the jackasses who deserve it.
Posted by: Lee at June 16, 2009 04:16 PM (TxTIh)
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We need to bring the same level of pressure to bear on them that we are on Letterman and we need to be public about it. This is just beyond stupidity it is like E=MC^2 where M = Mentally and C = Challenged.
Posted by: chad at June 16, 2009 04:16 PM (dW/T/)
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I hope that this does not become another 'we are all going to hell' string.
Posted by: Jack at June 16, 2009 04:16 PM (Ss83y)
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I don't know if I would call them GOP "officials" - a legislative aid and a former elections commission chairman
Yeah, but any time this happens, the MSM elevates the offender into The Chief Spokesman For The Republican Party.
Remember Ted Haggard? He was some preacher who got caught sword-swallowing a couple of other guys, so the MSM made him out like he was a Major Figure of the Religious Right. I never heard of the guy before the scandal, and I'm a so-con, so you know how desperate the left and their MSM allies were to make sure the entire GOP got tarred.
Yeah, but any time this happens, the MSM elevates the offender into The Chief Spokesman For The Republican Party.
Remember Ted Haggard? He was some preacher who got caught sword-swallowing a couple of other guys, so the MSM made him out like he was a Major Figure of the Religious Right. I never heard of the guy before the scandal, and I'm a so-con, so you know how desperate the left and their MSM allies were to make sure the entire GOP got tarred.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 16, 2009 04:17 PM (FnH/u)
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Scrapiron, I totally agree that the descended from apes thing is a valid joke to make about folks who believe in evolution. However, it really needs to be done to white liberals in at least equal measure if one wants to make that defense.
Still this is nothing compared to where race relations are going in this country once Barry's approval drops past 52%. Because that will of course prove that we're not post racial after all (any more) and need more racial healing, best achieved by bowing to Barry. And that will occur when folks are least willing to take that crap any more.
Still this is nothing compared to where race relations are going in this country once Barry's approval drops past 52%. Because that will of course prove that we're not post racial after all (any more) and need more racial healing, best achieved by bowing to Barry. And that will occur when folks are least willing to take that crap any more.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2009 04:17 PM (wU8X9)
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Yes, these asswipes made ridiculous, unacceptable "jokes." But anyone who thinks racism is confined to the conservative side of the political aisle is intellectually bankrupt.
Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at June 16, 2009 04:17 PM (voIlD)
Posted by: Dang Straights at June 16, 2009 04:20 PM (Haq+B)
Posted by: Unicles at June 16, 2009 04:20 PM (Bmhek)
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we get hammered for this crap so often you'd think our ppl would get their heads out of their asses, but no, they don't!
the largest single political group in the country are conservatives, we should be running everything, but it's shit like this that the MSM uses against us to make ppl believe we are something we aren't.
if you aren't a racist, don't make stupid jokes
if you are a racist, we don't want you.
the largest single political group in the country are conservatives, we should be running everything, but it's shit like this that the MSM uses against us to make ppl believe we are something we aren't.
if you aren't a racist, don't make stupid jokes
if you are a racist, we don't want you.
Posted by: shoey at June 16, 2009 04:21 PM (IRh55)
Posted by: palin steele at June 16, 2009 04:21 PM (VDj74)
Posted by: Unicles at June 16, 2009 04:21 PM (Bmhek)
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So no more Klingon jokes? What about gorilla-suit wearing Klingons?
Posted by: Schreiber at June 16, 2009 04:21 PM (1rnfz)
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Posted by: OregonMuse at June 16, 2009 04:17 PM (FnH/u)
Yes, I remember and I agree with you about that. Very true.
Yes, I remember and I agree with you about that. Very true.
Posted by: Adrienne at June 16, 2009 04:22 PM (/w2u8)
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OT, but anyone watching Glenn Beck? He's got this huge freaking salmon on his desk, and he's pulling the backbone out of it to show that politicians have no spine. Have to say that's a first. Man goes a long way to prove a point.
Posted by: Ombudsman at June 16, 2009 04:22 PM (fWF4Q)
Posted by: Unicles at June 16, 2009 04:22 PM (Bmhek)
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Yes Republicans are all racists and Obama is exactly the man to heal them. Don't mind us, we'll be fine without you.
Posted by: Dinner Jacket and the Mullahs at June 16, 2009 04:22 PM (wU8X9)
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To #8 Ido believe those are rasict and horrible jokes. Don't want you to think I'm racist because I said the thing about them not being GOP officials.
I didn't.
Even if they're not technically "officials", the point still stands.- one is a GOP activist and former official, the other works for one as an aidefor an official. If they do stupid, racist shit, it reflects not just on them but on the party and/or official they serve.
On my Offense-O-Meter, these jokes don't really score that exceptionally high (no "N-word" at least), but there was nothing at all to be gained in sharing them- but definitely something to lose.
And while I think Obama has turned out to be a gutless, naive, dishonest, cluelessand overall lousy President, he still is the POTUS. Even if one doesn't have much respect the man, at least a little respect for the position is in order.
I didn't.
Even if they're not technically "officials", the point still stands.- one is a GOP activist and former official, the other works for one as an aidefor an official. If they do stupid, racist shit, it reflects not just on them but on the party and/or official they serve.
On my Offense-O-Meter, these jokes don't really score that exceptionally high (no "N-word" at least), but there was nothing at all to be gained in sharing them- but definitely something to lose.
And while I think Obama has turned out to be a gutless, naive, dishonest, cluelessand overall lousy President, he still is the POTUS. Even if one doesn't have much respect the man, at least a little respect for the position is in order.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 04:23 PM (plsiE)
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I never understand even slightly racist jokes. That aspect of thought never enters my mind. Right now the GOP should be busy fighting the racism that has been caused by BHO. They shouldn't be adding to it. Racism, in all forms, is disgusting and only reflects the character of the person thinking it. It bolsters the group they are trying to make fun of/insult, IMHO.
Once I was in a store and my son was climbing on everything so I said, 'Hey monkey, plant it.' The non-white person beside me jumped down my throught and told me that I was a racist bitch and that I had offended her greatly. She knew I was talking to my son. She knew I was comparing him to a monkey because he was climbing. So I asked her what was wrong with comparing my son to an animal and she just kept up with her rant. I was so disgusted but I also felt extreme pity for this woman. She wanted to push me to the point where I would say something like that. Instead, I complimented her outfit, wished her a good day, and walked away.
I think that people are racist because they have no self-worth. But, I also think that some people need to find racism in the world to give them an excuse (in their own mind) for their unhappiness. I cringe when I hear black on black racism just as I cringe when I hear white on black racism or vice-versa. Unfortunately I have heard a lot more black on white racism lately. I refuse to listen to any of it.
Yeah, once again I am all over the place, and have forgotten my point, but hopefully you get my drift.
Once I was in a store and my son was climbing on everything so I said, 'Hey monkey, plant it.' The non-white person beside me jumped down my throught and told me that I was a racist bitch and that I had offended her greatly. She knew I was talking to my son. She knew I was comparing him to a monkey because he was climbing. So I asked her what was wrong with comparing my son to an animal and she just kept up with her rant. I was so disgusted but I also felt extreme pity for this woman. She wanted to push me to the point where I would say something like that. Instead, I complimented her outfit, wished her a good day, and walked away.
I think that people are racist because they have no self-worth. But, I also think that some people need to find racism in the world to give them an excuse (in their own mind) for their unhappiness. I cringe when I hear black on black racism just as I cringe when I hear white on black racism or vice-versa. Unfortunately I have heard a lot more black on white racism lately. I refuse to listen to any of it.
Yeah, once again I am all over the place, and have forgotten my point, but hopefully you get my drift.
Posted by: momma at June 16, 2009 04:23 PM (penCf)
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Some Republicans just don't get it.
Posted by: Caesar's wife at June 16, 2009 04:23 PM (PD1tk)
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I still want attention, though!
Posted by: Kim Jong Il at June 16, 2009 04:24 PM (wU8X9)
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@33 "This 'scandal' deserves a shrug. Ignore it."
I agree. Reprimand the fuckers in question, but c'mon -- Rusty DePass? Sherri Goforth? These are NOBODIES. Let's not make them household names as somehow "representative" of the entire GOP.
I agree. Reprimand the fuckers in question, but c'mon -- Rusty DePass? Sherri Goforth? These are NOBODIES. Let's not make them household names as somehow "representative" of the entire GOP.
Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at June 16, 2009 04:24 PM (voIlD)
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These guys (racist and/or stupid though they are) are NOT "far more responsible" for the racist stereotype of the right than the MSM. The MSM fabricated that out of whole cloth; the fact the some people actually fit the stereotype is nothing.
I repeat, nothing.
I mean, remember the whole "Bush hates black people because he caused Katrina" thing? Does this do "far more damage" to the conservative image than that? And there isn't even a reflected grain of truth in that smear.
Stories like this are a convenient illustration; without relentless and decades-long cultivation of that racist image, this story wouldn't be worth anything.
I repeat, nothing.
I mean, remember the whole "Bush hates black people because he caused Katrina" thing? Does this do "far more damage" to the conservative image than that? And there isn't even a reflected grain of truth in that smear.
Stories like this are a convenient illustration; without relentless and decades-long cultivation of that racist image, this story wouldn't be worth anything.
Posted by: Ella at June 16, 2009 04:25 PM (gQ4Zh)
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So, yeah, slam the MSM for bias and all that or for highlighting
Republican scandals of this sort while giving Democrats a pass. There's
truth in that. But no one should have any illusions that this stuff
isn't exactly made up out of thin air, and we have a lot of our fellow
conservatives and Republicans to thank.
Trouble is, they're never going to go away. There are racist and sexist and anti-semitic pigs on either side of the aisle, or at least in some way associated with either side of the aisle. 95% of the time, the media will play up the ones on the right. All we can do is shame the ones who spout this crap unmercifully and make sure we highlight when the left does it as well.
Republican scandals of this sort while giving Democrats a pass. There's
truth in that. But no one should have any illusions that this stuff
isn't exactly made up out of thin air, and we have a lot of our fellow
conservatives and Republicans to thank.
Trouble is, they're never going to go away. There are racist and sexist and anti-semitic pigs on either side of the aisle, or at least in some way associated with either side of the aisle. 95% of the time, the media will play up the ones on the right. All we can do is shame the ones who spout this crap unmercifully and make sure we highlight when the left does it as well.
Posted by: Frank Black at June 16, 2009 04:25 PM (PcwVT)
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Maybe they haven't figured out that the whole fuckin' WORLD is on Facebook?
And the other half receives email?
Sheesh!
And the other half receives email?
Sheesh!
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 16, 2009 04:26 PM (ZGhSv)
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39 "[Glenn Beck's] got this huge freaking salmon on his desk, and he's pulling the backbone out of it to show that politicians have no spine."
Well, NOW I'm convinced. It just took some visuals.
Well, NOW I'm convinced. It just took some visuals.
Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at June 16, 2009 04:26 PM (voIlD)
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I hate when folks like this are nominally on my side. Time for a gigantic fucking cluebat, and firings post-haste.
Posted by: Pavel at June 16, 2009 04:26 PM (UFpcQ)
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Lee at June 16, 2009 04:16 PM (TxTIh)
Screw that - the flaming is reserved for the guy's who told the jokes. Good for her for pointing it out and good for you for backing her up based on what is right regardless of political affiliation.
To me that's what sets us apart from the libs.
Screw that - the flaming is reserved for the guy's who told the jokes. Good for her for pointing it out and good for you for backing her up based on what is right regardless of political affiliation.
To me that's what sets us apart from the libs.
Posted by: Roadking at June 16, 2009 04:27 PM (5iCsF)
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This shit is fuckin' dissapointing. It's also why I do not call myself a Republican nor consider myself one. The party needs a purge alright....just not of the moderates. Time to pull another WFB, Jr. and toss the racists over the starboard bow once again.
Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at June 16, 2009 04:27 PM (OkrJ4)
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[Would someone delete this spam post from a 2007 thread?]
Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2009 04:28 PM (8PGHt)
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Also, of note.
NO ONE ever complained about racism when people compared George Bush to chimpanzees.
If it isn't racist to make chimp jokes about President Bush, why is it racist to make chimp jokes about Michelle Obama?
Aside from sex, genetically Bush and Obama are 100% the same.
Bush is just as human as Michelle Obama, though I doubt Michelle thinks so.
NO ONE ever complained about racism when people compared George Bush to chimpanzees.
If it isn't racist to make chimp jokes about President Bush, why is it racist to make chimp jokes about Michelle Obama?
Aside from sex, genetically Bush and Obama are 100% the same.
Bush is just as human as Michelle Obama, though I doubt Michelle thinks so.
Posted by: Jack at June 16, 2009 04:29 PM (Ss83y)
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Asshats. That's all.
Posted by: MDH3 at June 16, 2009 04:30 PM (CZcCo)
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For pete's sake, people, how about a little perspective?
Edward Kennedy killed a woman; I'm supposed to bite my fingernails over some dummy's tasteless, but innocuous, remarks?
No one was injured, everyone. We can all save our outrage for something else. Move along, people. Nothing to see, here.
For pete's sake, people, how about a little perspective?
Edward Kennedy killed a woman; I'm supposed to bite my fingernails over some dummy's tasteless, but innocuous, remarks?
No one was injured, everyone. We can all save our outrage for something else. Move along, people. Nothing to see, here.
Posted by: Unicles at June 16, 2009 04:30 PM (Bmhek)
Posted by: palin steele at June 16, 2009 04:30 PM (xGIqT)
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I'll worry about this "scandal" the minute the Dhimmicrats worry about a White House that fires Inspector Generals, and the Enablers that cover it up.
Posted by: UncleFacts at June 16, 2009 04:31 PM (vZVv7)
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Don't those two know that the enemy is watching and waiting for anything that can be used against us? And once something is found, we'll never hear the end of it?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 16, 2009 04:32 PM (ZGhSv)
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you know, we all make jokes. i thought the michelle obama joke was funny.
but is it ok for sonia sotomayor to say that latina are smarter than white men? that isn't racist?
hell, that ain't even funny.
and robert byrd? does he get a pass because he is from WVa we all know he's the only one from there with all his teeth? see? isn't that a terrible comment, too?
but is it ok for sonia sotomayor to say that latina are smarter than white men? that isn't racist?
hell, that ain't even funny.
and robert byrd? does he get a pass because he is from WVa we all know he's the only one from there with all his teeth? see? isn't that a terrible comment, too?
Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 16, 2009 04:32 PM (bqIyQ)
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If you absolutely positively MUST make jokes like this, would it be too much fucking trouble to just say them, quietly, to one or two people, rahter than emailing/facebooking/tweeting, orblurting themin front of a whole bunch of people? And if you must taint the whole conservative movement with a racial joke, could you at least make it funny?
Posted by: buzz at June 16, 2009 04:33 PM (kwhut)
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Yes, these asswipes made ridiculous, unacceptable "jokes." But anyone who thinks racism is confined to the conservative side of the political aisle is intellectually bankrupt.
No one thinks that. I personally know of a couple very loyal Dems who didn't vote for Obama based soley on his race. I don't doubt for a second that there were at least a few racially insensitive e-mails and jokes told amongst the Hillary camp during the primaries.
However it's much more likely to make news when it happens on the Republican side, and is going to be more damaging.That may not be fair, but that's the way it is- conservatives justcan't get away with the same things that get swept under the rug when done by liberals.
The best way to fight the stereotype of "racist Repubicans" is not to act the stereotype out though.
No one thinks that. I personally know of a couple very loyal Dems who didn't vote for Obama based soley on his race. I don't doubt for a second that there were at least a few racially insensitive e-mails and jokes told amongst the Hillary camp during the primaries.
However it's much more likely to make news when it happens on the Republican side, and is going to be more damaging.That may not be fair, but that's the way it is- conservatives justcan't get away with the same things that get swept under the rug when done by liberals.
The best way to fight the stereotype of "racist Repubicans" is not to act the stereotype out though.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 04:34 PM (plsiE)
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Meanwhile, back in reality...
Barack Obama, terrorist-sympathizer-in-chief, is making us less safe, destroying our economy, and raiding our treasury.
Meanwhile, back in reality...
Barack Obama, terrorist-sympathizer-in-chief, is making us less safe, destroying our economy, and raiding our treasury.
Posted by: Unicles at June 16, 2009 04:34 PM (Bmhek)
65
Same old crap. No matter how pure we are, no matter how we cull the herd we will always be the racist bigoted homophobes. That is a tool the left loves to use on us and we fall for it everytime. They Control our speach by making it a crime to offend anyone. Thus we have Political Correctness. A former Grand Vizer of the KKK represents West Va as senato but we are the racists. Black on white crime 90% vs white on black crime 10% but we are the racists. Bullshit. Quit apologizing. That I'm aware of the racial overtones of using the phrase, "calling a spade a spade" is a joke. Flintstone's "we'll have a gay old time"has beenredefined.
This shit is bogus. I quit apologizing for being a white Catholic male a long time ago. People have a right to free speach but no right to not be offended. Just the right to answer back and show their disapproval. Quit letting the Dems define us.
This shit is bogus. I quit apologizing for being a white Catholic male a long time ago. People have a right to free speach but no right to not be offended. Just the right to answer back and show their disapproval. Quit letting the Dems define us.
Posted by: Dan at June 16, 2009 04:34 PM (qfb86)
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What about Playboy's "Top 10 Republican Women I'd Like To Rape"?
This is just stuff the other side gets a free pass on. Like blatantly racist cartoons about Condoleezza Rice, photoshopping Joe Lieberman in blackface, Jeremiah Wright muttering darkly about "them Joos", etc.
Double-standard. You're soaking in it.
This is just stuff the other side gets a free pass on. Like blatantly racist cartoons about Condoleezza Rice, photoshopping Joe Lieberman in blackface, Jeremiah Wright muttering darkly about "them Joos", etc.
Double-standard. You're soaking in it.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 16, 2009 04:34 PM (FnH/u)
67
Well, you'll have to excuse the f#@k out of me, my outrage meter must be broken. Must be the 8 years of Bush=Hitler jokers, or Palin sexist jokes, before and after the GD election. Feh.
Posted by: L at June 16, 2009 04:34 PM (fssBB)
68
These two people are too stupid to be associated with the Republican party.Ditch them now. And Ditch the RINOS while your at it.
Posted by: maddogg at June 16, 2009 04:35 PM (OlN4e)
69
61 - I hear you. We could go on and on about racist jokes by Biden, Hillary, Hollings, etc., people who are a lot higher on the political food chain than aides to State Reps. But there is a double standard, and like it or not it's not going anywhere anytime soon. So let's just deal with it.
Posted by: buzz at June 16, 2009 04:37 PM (kwhut)
70
there's plenty of things for those worthless paid staffers of the GOP to talk about.
Such as Conyers wife taking a plea deal for corruption and bribery.
Detroit --Detroit City Councilwoman Monica Conyers has been
offered a plea deal by the federal government in connection with a
corruption investigation at City Hall, four sources with knowledge of
the deal confirmed.
The federal authorities have told Conyers
they want an answer by the end of today, but the wife of U.S. House
Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers hasn't made up her mind,
sources said. The bribery-related charge that Conyers could plead to
carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, although she
probably would receive less time. Two sources who have spoken with Conyers said she is reluctant because she doesn't want to serve time in jail.
Conyers mostly ignored reporters when she left City Hall in an
unmarked car after 3 p.m. en route to her weekly television show "Ask
the Councilwoman With Monica Conyers." But when asked if she would
accept a plea, she murmured that The Detroit News was "full of (it)."
Conyers
seemed to briefly allude to the allegations during a live broadcast of
her show on WHPR-TV (Channel 33). She acknowledged that she's been in
the news, but challenged detractors, saying, "If you aren't praying for
me, then you are just adding to the problem."
"First and
foremost, I am a child of God," Conyers said. "All these things going
on right now, I believe in my heart, God will deliver me from."
Later
in the show, Conyers brushed off a caller who asked directly what she
thought about the "latest scandal" involving Synagro. "I don't have a
thought," she said.
Steve Fishman, Conyers' attorney, declined to comment.
Conyers
was not identified in federal court documents nor by developer Rayford
W. Jackson when he pleaded guilty Monday to bribery conspiracy charges
in federal court, but sources say Conyers is the official known as
"Council Member A." Jackson pleaded guilty to paying more than
$6,000 in bribes to an unnamed member of Detroit City Council in
connection with a $1.2 billion sludge contract approved in late 2007.
He admitted to using a courier on four separate occasions to deliver
bribes to "Council Member A" -- the same council member that former
Synagro official James R. Rosendall Jr. earlier admitted to bribing.
Conyers,
who showed up to the regularly scheduled meeting City Council meeting,
declined to speak to reporters and was primarily silent during the
meeting except to pitch a community event this afternoon. She looked
worried.
After Conyers left the meeting, Councilman Kwame
Kenyatta said he hoped those involved in the scandal are identified
soon. He said he's upset about being lumped in with someone who's
allegedly taken a bribe.
Such as Conyers wife taking a plea deal for corruption and bribery.
Detroit --Detroit City Councilwoman Monica Conyers has been
offered a plea deal by the federal government in connection with a
corruption investigation at City Hall, four sources with knowledge of
the deal confirmed.
The federal authorities have told Conyers
they want an answer by the end of today, but the wife of U.S. House
Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers hasn't made up her mind,
sources said. The bribery-related charge that Conyers could plead to
carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, although she
probably would receive less time. Two sources who have spoken with Conyers said she is reluctant because she doesn't want to serve time in jail.
Conyers mostly ignored reporters when she left City Hall in an
unmarked car after 3 p.m. en route to her weekly television show "Ask
the Councilwoman With Monica Conyers." But when asked if she would
accept a plea, she murmured that The Detroit News was "full of (it)."
Conyers
seemed to briefly allude to the allegations during a live broadcast of
her show on WHPR-TV (Channel 33). She acknowledged that she's been in
the news, but challenged detractors, saying, "If you aren't praying for
me, then you are just adding to the problem."
"First and
foremost, I am a child of God," Conyers said. "All these things going
on right now, I believe in my heart, God will deliver me from."
Later
in the show, Conyers brushed off a caller who asked directly what she
thought about the "latest scandal" involving Synagro. "I don't have a
thought," she said.
Steve Fishman, Conyers' attorney, declined to comment.
Conyers
was not identified in federal court documents nor by developer Rayford
W. Jackson when he pleaded guilty Monday to bribery conspiracy charges
in federal court, but sources say Conyers is the official known as
"Council Member A." Jackson pleaded guilty to paying more than
$6,000 in bribes to an unnamed member of Detroit City Council in
connection with a $1.2 billion sludge contract approved in late 2007.
He admitted to using a courier on four separate occasions to deliver
bribes to "Council Member A" -- the same council member that former
Synagro official James R. Rosendall Jr. earlier admitted to bribing.
Conyers,
who showed up to the regularly scheduled meeting City Council meeting,
declined to speak to reporters and was primarily silent during the
meeting except to pitch a community event this afternoon. She looked
worried.
After Conyers left the meeting, Councilman Kwame
Kenyatta said he hoped those involved in the scandal are identified
soon. He said he's upset about being lumped in with someone who's
allegedly taken a bribe.
Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 16, 2009 04:38 PM (5r0Tz)
71
To paraphrase George Carlin - Isn't a "republicans are raaaacist" story sort of a "Dog Bites Man" story?
As such doesn't the very brouhaha made negate the premise?
As such doesn't the very brouhaha made negate the premise?
Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 16, 2009 04:38 PM (ruzrP)
72
Much ado about nothing.
Posted by: flenser at June 16, 2009 04:39 PM (mSIF/)
73
Sorry. My sensitivity meter is pegged. Just over-sensitized, I guess.
Posted by: Dennis at June 16, 2009 04:39 PM (M+g5S)
74
@63 "No one thinks that. "
Yes, SOME people -- certain lefties with ideological blinders on -- actually DO think that. To say that "no one" thinks that is oversimplification.
Yes, SOME people -- certain lefties with ideological blinders on -- actually DO think that. To say that "no one" thinks that is oversimplification.
Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at June 16, 2009 04:40 PM (voIlD)
75
You know what? No.
I have no idea who Rusty DePass or Sherri Goforth are, but I'm not going to impugn their characters by abeling them racists just so the evil moonbat Leftists like me.
I won't sacrifice DePass or Goforth and offer them up to the slaughter just make amends. From what I've learned about the Left, I'm quite sure DePass and Goforth are far better people, their stupid judgement notwithstanding, than ANY Democrat Leftist Moonbat out there feigning outrage and disgust.
You know what? No.
I have no idea who Rusty DePass or Sherri Goforth are, but I'm not going to impugn their characters by abeling them racists just so the evil moonbat Leftists like me.
I won't sacrifice DePass or Goforth and offer them up to the slaughter just make amends. From what I've learned about the Left, I'm quite sure DePass and Goforth are far better people, their stupid judgement notwithstanding, than ANY Democrat Leftist Moonbat out there feigning outrage and disgust.
Posted by: Unicles at June 16, 2009 04:41 PM (Bmhek)
76
if you aren't a racist, don't make stupid jokes
if you are a racist, we don't want you.
I would also add, if you don't know how to be funny, don't make jokes.
Sometimes it's more a lack of a sense of what's funny that gets people in trouble.
if you are a racist, we don't want you.
I would also add, if you don't know how to be funny, don't make jokes.
Sometimes it's more a lack of a sense of what's funny that gets people in trouble.
Posted by: Eleven at June 16, 2009 04:41 PM (7DB+a)
77
I agree. Reprimand the fuckers in question, but c'mon -- Rusty DePass? Sherri Goforth? These are NOBODIES. Let's not make them household names as somehow "representative" of the entire GOP.
They were nobodies. It's not up to us whether they get made household names; they did that all on their own.
Blame the media for a double standard all you want, but the fact remains that if these two idiots didn't publish racist shit in e-mails and on Twitter, they'd still be nobodies. Unfortunately, it's not only their own reputation that got damaged.
They were nobodies. It's not up to us whether they get made household names; they did that all on their own.
Blame the media for a double standard all you want, but the fact remains that if these two idiots didn't publish racist shit in e-mails and on Twitter, they'd still be nobodies. Unfortunately, it's not only their own reputation that got damaged.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 04:41 PM (plsiE)
78
by the way, Dick Durbin has been caught red-handed insider trading. And I'm going to be chastised by the likes of him?
As Obama once said, "Just words?"
Yes, that's right; they're just words.
by the way, Dick Durbin has been caught red-handed insider trading. And I'm going to be chastised by the likes of him?
As Obama once said, "Just words?"
Yes, that's right; they're just words.
Posted by: Unicles at June 16, 2009 04:43 PM (Bmhek)
79
Why are the Republicans out of power? Because they expend energy on stupidity like this, and leaning across the aisle to smooch some socialist ass. We need to jack up the Republican party and runa new one in underneath them. Instead of doing what is needed to get the leftists out of power and protect the country, they seem to have time for usless crap lile sending off color bullshit to Facebook and in emails to other feckless dumbsters. Fuck them. Fire their asses.
Posted by: maddogg at June 16, 2009 04:43 PM (OlN4e)
80
"But no one should have any illusions that this stuff isn't exactly made
up out of thin air..."
I don't know anyone who has any such illusions. And I seriously doubt you know any such people.
Also, your lecture won't ever stop one lefty hollering "RACSIST!".
So if there was a point to this lecture I don't see it.
up out of thin air..."
I don't know anyone who has any such illusions. And I seriously doubt you know any such people.
Also, your lecture won't ever stop one lefty hollering "RACSIST!".
So if there was a point to this lecture I don't see it.
Posted by: Agnostic at June 16, 2009 04:43 PM (t1KUe)
81
However it's much more likely to make news when it happens on the Republican side, and is going to be more damaging.That may not be fair, but that's the way it is- conservatives justcan't get away with the same things that get swept underthe rug when done by liberals.
The reason we can't "get away with it" is that there are far too many Republicans eager to be the enforcers of the lefts double standard. Look at the Trent Lott nonsense for example. Sure, Lott was a big government squish, but you don't smear your own to curry favor with your enemies. Unless you're the stupid party.
The reason we can't "get away with it" is that there are far too many Republicans eager to be the enforcers of the lefts double standard. Look at the Trent Lott nonsense for example. Sure, Lott was a big government squish, but you don't smear your own to curry favor with your enemies. Unless you're the stupid party.
Posted by: flenser at June 16, 2009 04:45 PM (mSIF/)
82
Better news : John Ensign R-NV about to admit an extramarital affair, according to the Washington Post. http://tinyurl.com/mtemkv
Posted by: ricky at June 16, 2009 04:45 PM (UkL5l)
83
Someone here wrote, when Obama had been elected, that when websites could go up comparing Obama to a chimp [like so many pics of W did, for so long] *then* it would be a post-racial America.
Guess not.
Guess not.
Posted by: Evil midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at June 16, 2009 04:45 PM (taJZA)
84
Eject them. Repudiate them with the Founders' own words and philosophies. Tell them to eat shit and fuck themselves. Problem solved.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at June 16, 2009 04:46 PM (YQXyA)
85
@ 77 "They were nobodies."
Their names aren't Dick Cheney or Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney or Rush Limbaugh. If any one of those personalities had made the "jokes," it would be legitimate headline news. Two absolute nobodies (in the context I just explained) getting the kind of attention this blog entry is alotting them is, IMO, hyperventilating.
Their names aren't Dick Cheney or Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney or Rush Limbaugh. If any one of those personalities had made the "jokes," it would be legitimate headline news. Two absolute nobodies (in the context I just explained) getting the kind of attention this blog entry is alotting them is, IMO, hyperventilating.
Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at June 16, 2009 04:47 PM (voIlD)
86
Put me in the no big deal camp. We're not going to lose any black votes. A poll a few weeks ago indicated that Obama's unfavorable among black s was a big 0%. I'm sure that individual blacks disapprove but the black vote belongs to Obama, period, therefore we have nothing to lose. By emphasizing this, we acknowledge that racism trumps every other issue. Obama and the Democrats have hollered racist about every disagreement with Obama and our response here tells them that it is working. Obam is corrupt, incompetent, dishonest to an extent that is ltierally putting the existence of the country at stake? No problem. His opponents are racists. If we falgelate ourselves we are merely empowering them.
And afterall, does anybody remember Crazy Jerry Wright's House 'o Hate? That was hateful speech and they got a pass on it. This is not.
I charge them with stupidity for which they deserve to be fired but that is all.
I sometimes think we should embrace racist speech but not racism. That would remove their biggest arrow form their quiver. And nmow would be the time to do it. We have nothing to lose.
And afterall, does anybody remember Crazy Jerry Wright's House 'o Hate? That was hateful speech and they got a pass on it. This is not.
I charge them with stupidity for which they deserve to be fired but that is all.
I sometimes think we should embrace racist speech but not racism. That would remove their biggest arrow form their quiver. And nmow would be the time to do it. We have nothing to lose.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 16, 2009 04:47 PM (xxgag)
87
Dumb fuckers. If this is what stands between Ogabe and the apocalypse, I'm building an ark.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 04:48 PM (xVKXy)
88
here's the final obama sellout of the protesters in the street trying to literally change the regime:
As for the disputed presidential elections in
Iran, Obama said it won't make that much difference to the US what the
eventual outcome is."The
difference in actual policies between Ahmadinejad and Moussavi in terms
of their actual policies may not be as great as advertised," he said.
"I think it's important to understand that either way we are going to
be dealing with a regime in Iran that is hostile to the US. We have
long-term interests in not having them with nuclear power and funding
terrorism."
As for the disputed presidential elections in
Iran, Obama said it won't make that much difference to the US what the
eventual outcome is."The
difference in actual policies between Ahmadinejad and Moussavi in terms
of their actual policies may not be as great as advertised," he said.
"I think it's important to understand that either way we are going to
be dealing with a regime in Iran that is hostile to the US. We have
long-term interests in not having them with nuclear power and funding
terrorism."
Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at June 16, 2009 04:48 PM (5r0Tz)
89
I don't know what to make of this. I hate that we have idiots who make jokes that are obviously racist. But I also hate that the left got away with ChimpyBush jokes for so many years because Bush resembled a monkey.
What the fuck is the difference other than one is being compared to a Gorilla and one is being compared to a chimp?
I guess the difference is one was elected, the other is not, except for the spook picture, that is just flat out racist.
I don't know, people are people and people will always be stupid.
Can we bring up Bird yet?
What the fuck is the difference other than one is being compared to a Gorilla and one is being compared to a chimp?
I guess the difference is one was elected, the other is not, except for the spook picture, that is just flat out racist.
I don't know, people are people and people will always be stupid.
Can we bring up Bird yet?
Posted by: Uniball at June 16, 2009 04:50 PM (27iEn)
90
Dumb post, dumber comments. FYNQ.
Posted by: Pelvis at June 16, 2009 04:52 PM (LlaBi)
91
You know what? No.I have no idea who Rusty DePass or Sherri Goforth are, but I'm not going to impugn their characters by abeling them racists just so the evil moonbat Leftists like me. I won't sacrifice DePass or Goforth and offer them up to the slaughter just make amends. From what I've learned about the Left, I'm quite sure DePass and Goforth are far better people, their stupid judgement notwithstanding, than ANY Democrat Leftist Moonbat out there feigning outrage and disgust.
I didn't know who they were either. Perhaps they're the nicest,most awesomepeople you could ever meet, and don't have a racist bone in their bodies.
That doesn't change the fact what they did was incredibly stupid and irresponsible in a way that harmed the reputation of the Republican party and those they represent.
They fucked up and should be fired- this sort of idiocy can't be tolerated.
I didn't know who they were either. Perhaps they're the nicest,most awesomepeople you could ever meet, and don't have a racist bone in their bodies.
That doesn't change the fact what they did was incredibly stupid and irresponsible in a way that harmed the reputation of the Republican party and those they represent.
They fucked up and should be fired- this sort of idiocy can't be tolerated.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 04:52 PM (plsiE)
92
You know why I hate Jooos? Because I offered to suck one of for $84 and he wouldn't take my money.
Said he didn't roll that way, but I bet it was because he was trying to get $100 out of me.
Said he didn't roll that way, but I bet it was because he was trying to get $100 out of me.
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 04:53 PM (qSWxU)
93
Maybe you should just list the jokes about Obama that Republicans are allowed to tell. Then we can just write "#3!" and all have a good laugh.
Ace, I think the PC virus is getting to you. The other side will scream RACIST at us NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. There's no need to help them.
Ace, I think the PC virus is getting to you. The other side will scream RACIST at us NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. There's no need to help them.
Posted by: lmg at June 16, 2009 04:54 PM (Qt4Y7)
Posted by: yambles at June 16, 2009 04:55 PM (rxaXW)
Posted by: Dan at June 16, 2009 04:55 PM (qfb86)
96
These are disgusting, not funny jokes.
But the people who made them are nobodies, and I don't think the national press needs to involve itself in every disgusting, racist joke made for the next 4 years.
David Plouffe is still Obama's speechwriter even though he posted on Facebook a picture of himself cupping the breast of his boss's Secretary of State. That was disgusting and chauvinistic and laughed off by the powers that be.
But the people who made them are nobodies, and I don't think the national press needs to involve itself in every disgusting, racist joke made for the next 4 years.
David Plouffe is still Obama's speechwriter even though he posted on Facebook a picture of himself cupping the breast of his boss's Secretary of State. That was disgusting and chauvinistic and laughed off by the powers that be.
Posted by: MayBee at June 16, 2009 04:56 PM (2tgMk)
97
Many blue-collar democratic voters tend to be narrow-minded morons.
But we need their votes. So we excuse their racism in the Democratic party. You Republicans should try that.
But we need their votes. So we excuse their racism in the Democratic party. You Republicans should try that.
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 04:57 PM (x4c0h)
98
Nigel,
Not really down with you there.
We do need to point out the constant racism of the left, the institutional racism and sexism that is taught in academics, the victim culture of the left that is totally counter to what the Rev Martin Luther King was preaching about.
We need this it be in their face and the racists of the left need to be shamed.
Those two idiots who sent out those emails need to be fired. If they worked for me, and they sent it out on my company email and time, I would fire them.
Not really down with you there.
We do need to point out the constant racism of the left, the institutional racism and sexism that is taught in academics, the victim culture of the left that is totally counter to what the Rev Martin Luther King was preaching about.
We need this it be in their face and the racists of the left need to be shamed.
Those two idiots who sent out those emails need to be fired. If they worked for me, and they sent it out on my company email and time, I would fire them.
Posted by: Uniball at June 16, 2009 04:58 PM (27iEn)
99
That doesn't change the fact what they did was incredibly stupid and
irresponsible in a way that harmed the reputation of the Republican
party
>>>> The Republican Party doesn't need any help harming themselves. The Republicans are the Larry, Moe, and Curlies of contemporary politics and I don't owe them a thing.
irresponsible in a way that harmed the reputation of the Republican
party
>>>> The Republican Party doesn't need any help harming themselves. The Republicans are the Larry, Moe, and Curlies of contemporary politics and I don't owe them a thing.
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 16, 2009 04:58 PM (xxgag)
100
It's not only racist, it's mean and immature. It allows others to lump us all together as a bunch of crazy, racist militia people.
I work on our local tea party committee and it is a lot of work and dedication to our country. I don't appreciate being lumped in with ignorant people who don't think before they open their mouths.
It is a waste of time to make fun of your opponents in a personal way, no matter which side is doing it. It clouds the real issues.
I work on our local tea party committee and it is a lot of work and dedication to our country. I don't appreciate being lumped in with ignorant people who don't think before they open their mouths.
It is a waste of time to make fun of your opponents in a personal way, no matter which side is doing it. It clouds the real issues.
Posted by: Texmom at June 16, 2009 04:59 PM (VQIM4)
101
Oh great. Another great moment in "conservative" humor, brought to you the Aryan National Lampoon .
On a couple of occasions I have receive these sort of unsolicited watermelon-patch-at-the-White-House "joke" emails from purported "fans." The retarded fucks apparently think that since I try to do funny and I'm not down with Obama, I will find their stupid minstrel show crap a big laff riot. When it happens, I enjoy sending a personalized email response inviting to the sender to stop reading my blog, and to go fuck themselves with a soldering iron.
On a couple of occasions I have receive these sort of unsolicited watermelon-patch-at-the-White-House "joke" emails from purported "fans." The retarded fucks apparently think that since I try to do funny and I'm not down with Obama, I will find their stupid minstrel show crap a big laff riot. When it happens, I enjoy sending a personalized email response inviting to the sender to stop reading my blog, and to go fuck themselves with a soldering iron.
Posted by: iowahawk at June 16, 2009 04:59 PM (veL4N)
102
BTW, immediately before Obama got the nomination, a Liberal called into Rush predicting an increase in Racist activity and a swelling of KKK etc ranks if he were elected. And that scared the shit out of that Lib, cuz a backlash is OK *as long as its healthy for the nation* and racist shit ain't.
My point is the racist shit was predictable and isn't us but we're getting tagged anyway - and that isn't good for the nation either. We need to fight that stereotype, forcefully, and NOW dammit.
My point is the racist shit was predictable and isn't us but we're getting tagged anyway - and that isn't good for the nation either. We need to fight that stereotype, forcefully, and NOW dammit.
Posted by: Evil midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at June 16, 2009 05:00 PM (taJZA)
103
I don't know what to make of this. I hate that we have idiots who make jokes that are obviously racist. But I also hate that the left got away with ChimpyBush jokes for so many years because Bush resembled a monkey.What the fuck is the difference other than one is being compared to a Gorilla and one is being compared to a chimp?
You're being obtuse. Intentionally racist comparisons of blacks to monkeys / apes goes back quite a long time, and you know it.
Jokes about someone's facial characteristics are in a completely different league than those focusing on a person's race. A joke comparing Obama to Dumbo for having large ears? OK. Comparing Obama to a monkey? Not OK. It's not that difficultto figure out where the line is.
You're being obtuse. Intentionally racist comparisons of blacks to monkeys / apes goes back quite a long time, and you know it.
Jokes about someone's facial characteristics are in a completely different league than those focusing on a person's race. A joke comparing Obama to Dumbo for having large ears? OK. Comparing Obama to a monkey? Not OK. It's not that difficultto figure out where the line is.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 05:01 PM (plsiE)
104
Sorry but this doesn't deserve some ashes and sackcloth treatment. Apologies are sufficient. Yeah, it was stupid and racist. But it's not like it was one of the Presidential candidates sitting there listening to racist comments for 20 years, ora President ata dinner,listening to a comedienne make racist comments, or a well-known Liberal talk show host degrading women, or a radio talk show host making racist comments about a team or...
If the Dems/Libs make a big deal of this it will turn into a back and forth of who can dig up the worst comments from both sides...a total waste of time.
And no it won't destroy the Repubs or Conervatives...there are much more important things going on today and the MSM knows it. It has to spend its time abetting The One's Health Care For All and covering up his other mistakes. And trust me, I'll lay money that at some point either Obama or one of his associates makes a racist or misogynist gaffe.
If the Dems/Libs make a big deal of this it will turn into a back and forth of who can dig up the worst comments from both sides...a total waste of time.
And no it won't destroy the Repubs or Conervatives...there are much more important things going on today and the MSM knows it. It has to spend its time abetting The One's Health Care For All and covering up his other mistakes. And trust me, I'll lay money that at some point either Obama or one of his associates makes a racist or misogynist gaffe.
Posted by: Deanna at June 16, 2009 05:01 PM (bg/3n)
105
I'm with Hollowpoint; there's no point in impugning them as "racists", which gets tossed around so fucking much as to render it meaningless and stupid, but those two should walk the plank for being fucking dumbasses by saying stupid shit while in a position of responsibility. I'm tired of excusing childish behavior by purported grownups in an official capacity. Fuck them.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 16, 2009 05:01 PM (Vlq0g)
106
Here's the thing: There is enough political ammunition from the economic front ALONE to keep everyone busy, so I don't get the juvenile crap.
I mean apart from momma's "titties" moment from this morning. That's different.
Yeah, I'm pathetic.
I mean apart from momma's "titties" moment from this morning. That's different.
Yeah, I'm pathetic.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 16, 2009 05:02 PM (B+qrE)
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Holy crap--is that actually Burge up there at #101?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 16, 2009 05:05 PM (B+qrE)
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But no one should have any illusions that this stuff isn't exactly made up out of thin air, and we have a lot of our fellow conservatives and Republicans to thank.
For what??? Being in the MINORITY when it comes to the "funny ha-ha's"?
Quite frankly, the DePass and Goforth postings don't amount to shit compared to the visceral hatred spewed by the Dems during GW's tenure.
Here's just a sampling of an anti-war protester's depiction of Colin Powell:
http://tinyurl.com/lg4sw5
They also 'entertained' us with depictions of Bush with guns pointed at his head, Palin hung in effigy, and hoisting signs making fun of the 9/11 victims and profane insults toward the military. I'm supposed to be indignant over a couple of swipes at Michelle Obama?
FUCK. THAT.
For what??? Being in the MINORITY when it comes to the "funny ha-ha's"?
Quite frankly, the DePass and Goforth postings don't amount to shit compared to the visceral hatred spewed by the Dems during GW's tenure.
Here's just a sampling of an anti-war protester's depiction of Colin Powell:
http://tinyurl.com/lg4sw5
They also 'entertained' us with depictions of Bush with guns pointed at his head, Palin hung in effigy, and hoisting signs making fun of the 9/11 victims and profane insults toward the military. I'm supposed to be indignant over a couple of swipes at Michelle Obama?
FUCK. THAT.
Posted by: SFC MAC at June 16, 2009 05:06 PM (dX8Ae)
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Just accept that the minorities, and remember they are a minority, won't ever play ball and won't ever come over to the GOP, so concentrate on the needs of white people who form the GOP's base. Whatever the GOP does to appease minorities it will never be enough so just write them off and build an all-white coalition.
Go back to Stormfront, douchebag. It's not about appeasement, it's about standing up for individual rights- not those of a particular racial demographic.
Go back to Stormfront, douchebag. It's not about appeasement, it's about standing up for individual rights- not those of a particular racial demographic.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 05:06 PM (plsiE)
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Props for teh post, Ace. These folks should be canned.
Here's my problem, though; and it's been touched on by other comments- why is it that everything is suddenly RAAAACIST!!!111eleventy? As mentioned above Chimpy McHitler=Bush=acceptable joke vs. Michelle looks like an ape=horrible racist comment & proof that all Republicans are KKK scum (while ignoring that Byrd is a D).
Further, the MSM is demanding that "aids are terminated for a racist email" vs. reporting on "Palin's feud with Letterman over a joke"
The double standard is deafening. Personally, I despise political correctness. Yes, there are many jokes that lack taste & are innappropriate, but this should not be used as political leverage. All that is gained is the further dumbing-down of our society while the facts of which party has consistently supported racism, opposed equal rights & progess and currently has a KKK member in Congress continue tobe ignored.
Here's my problem, though; and it's been touched on by other comments- why is it that everything is suddenly RAAAACIST!!!111eleventy? As mentioned above Chimpy McHitler=Bush=acceptable joke vs. Michelle looks like an ape=horrible racist comment & proof that all Republicans are KKK scum (while ignoring that Byrd is a D).
Further, the MSM is demanding that "aids are terminated for a racist email" vs. reporting on "Palin's feud with Letterman over a joke"
The double standard is deafening. Personally, I despise political correctness. Yes, there are many jokes that lack taste & are innappropriate, but this should not be used as political leverage. All that is gained is the further dumbing-down of our society while the facts of which party has consistently supported racism, opposed equal rights & progess and currently has a KKK member in Congress continue tobe ignored.
Posted by: Damiano at June 16, 2009 05:07 PM (ROnvz)
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Hollowpoint,
I would put money on Beyonce, Vanessa Williams, and Halle Berry having never been compared to a Gorilla.
I took it as a comment about her facial characteristics, just like Bush looked like a monkey.
I agree with you though, it is too close to being a racist comment to make, even if he was only referring to what she looks like, not her race.
I would put money on Beyonce, Vanessa Williams, and Halle Berry having never been compared to a Gorilla.
I took it as a comment about her facial characteristics, just like Bush looked like a monkey.
I agree with you though, it is too close to being a racist comment to make, even if he was only referring to what she looks like, not her race.
Posted by: Uniball at June 16, 2009 05:09 PM (27iEn)
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No amount of racism from the dems makes the slightest bit of difference. It is a waste of time saying anything about it, especially, "They do it, too...."
Forget it.
Republicans and conservatives have been tarred--ha!--with the racism brush even when it is not deserved. Anybody who thinks the two parties are equivalent on this issue has the brains of a sea cucumber.
Figure this:Since the dems are going to LIE about stuff reps and cons do, make it up out of whole cloth, it follows that it would be a GOOD IDEA not to give them anything to work with. And, hell, what does it cost to not be that stupid? Although the price is apparently a bit steep for these two morons.
Forget it.
Republicans and conservatives have been tarred--ha!--with the racism brush even when it is not deserved. Anybody who thinks the two parties are equivalent on this issue has the brains of a sea cucumber.
Figure this:Since the dems are going to LIE about stuff reps and cons do, make it up out of whole cloth, it follows that it would be a GOOD IDEA not to give them anything to work with. And, hell, what does it cost to not be that stupid? Although the price is apparently a bit steep for these two morons.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at June 16, 2009 05:10 PM (PTrIN)
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Young boys do it for me. Especially the blonde, blue eyed ones.
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 05:11 PM (qSWxU)
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It's not about appeasement, it's about standing up for individual rights- not those of a particular racial demographic.
'Zactly. Or any other demographic for that matter. This point should be the foundation of conservative thought, but some of the current rinoid nomenklatura just don't get it.
'Zactly. Or any other demographic for that matter. This point should be the foundation of conservative thought, but some of the current rinoid nomenklatura just don't get it.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 16, 2009 05:11 PM (B+qrE)
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The Republican Party doesn't need any help harming themselves. The Republicans are the Larry, Moe, and Curlies of contemporary politics and I don't owe them a thing.
If you don't aren't a GOP activist or employed by a GOP official, then no, you don't owe them anything.
But if you're employed as an aide to a GOP official or are a GOP activist- yeah, you do have some responsibility not to help harm the party by doing needlessly stupid, unnecessaryshit.
If you don't aren't a GOP activist or employed by a GOP official, then no, you don't owe them anything.
But if you're employed as an aide to a GOP official or are a GOP activist- yeah, you do have some responsibility not to help harm the party by doing needlessly stupid, unnecessaryshit.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 05:12 PM (plsiE)
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Great. Just effing great.
Ensign gets caught doing the Edwards shuffle....
Ensign gets caught doing the Edwards shuffle....
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 16, 2009 05:15 PM (B+qrE)
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Speaking of Vanessa Williams. Remember her Penthouse photos? Whoa, what a world class babe.
Definately NSFW: http://tinyurl.com/pjnmcr
Definately NSFW: http://tinyurl.com/pjnmcr
Posted by: Uniball at June 16, 2009 05:16 PM (27iEn)
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It's passing strange that these stories always seem to originate in the South . I guess it's truly the core area of racial hatred in the U.S.
Hey , ya know what ? It's fucking bullshit .
La raza anyone ?
Kill haole day ?
White mans greed runs a world in need .
Black panthers ?
Wise latina ?
Cracker, honkie , spic , beaner, greaser , kike.
Everyone is racist to some degree . This is just the newest opportunity to bash "those people", meaning southerners. We're no more or less racist than any other ethnic or geographic group . Fuck white guilt . All it's gotten us is an anti American socialist in the white house .
I refuse to play this game .
Hey , ya know what ? It's fucking bullshit .
La raza anyone ?
Kill haole day ?
White mans greed runs a world in need .
Black panthers ?
Wise latina ?
Cracker, honkie , spic , beaner, greaser , kike.
Everyone is racist to some degree . This is just the newest opportunity to bash "those people", meaning southerners. We're no more or less racist than any other ethnic or geographic group . Fuck white guilt . All it's gotten us is an anti American socialist in the white house .
I refuse to play this game .
Posted by: aubrey at June 16, 2009 05:16 PM (vJZ+j)
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Fucking Ensign, stupid fucking idiot.
Posted by: Uniball at June 16, 2009 05:17 PM (27iEn)
Posted by: iowahawk at June 16, 2009 05:17 PM (veL4N)
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The aide should be fired. There is absolutely no excuse for that "joke" and she shouldn't be screwing around sending jokes while on the job anyway.
'Guess we can't do anything about the first person if he's not employed for the GOP, but the attempt at humor was lame and stupid.
Now, as for comparing the FLOTUS to a mythical creature or space alien, personally I don't find the complaints that those jokes are inherently racist compelling... but, then again, I wasn't raised to believe that black people are inferior people (who might be more closely related to primitive organisms) nor do I have any knowledge as to which human race a Klingon or Wookiee is meant to resemble. (JarJar Binks, on the other hand, was the most racist depiction I've seen on a major motion picture in a really long time... What were they thinking?!) Same thing with Sasquatch. It's not part of any phylogenetic tree I know so I see absolutely no bearing on a Sasquatch and any particular human being or racial group.
But incidents like these two do make it more likely that Ace will make us cut out the Michelle jokes, which would be a real shame in my book.
'Guess we can't do anything about the first person if he's not employed for the GOP, but the attempt at humor was lame and stupid.
Now, as for comparing the FLOTUS to a mythical creature or space alien, personally I don't find the complaints that those jokes are inherently racist compelling... but, then again, I wasn't raised to believe that black people are inferior people (who might be more closely related to primitive organisms) nor do I have any knowledge as to which human race a Klingon or Wookiee is meant to resemble. (JarJar Binks, on the other hand, was the most racist depiction I've seen on a major motion picture in a really long time... What were they thinking?!) Same thing with Sasquatch. It's not part of any phylogenetic tree I know so I see absolutely no bearing on a Sasquatch and any particular human being or racial group.
But incidents like these two do make it more likely that Ace will make us cut out the Michelle jokes, which would be a real shame in my book.
Posted by: Y-not at June 16, 2009 05:18 PM (sey23)
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The motherfuckers that called Bush a chimp for 8 years have a problem with the hairless chewbacca being compared to a gorilla? Too fucking bad; break out the nano violin.
Posted by: The Great Satan™ at June 16, 2009 05:20 PM (knIKF)
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Hey, Iowahawk --
What ever happened to the Iowahawk gear you were going to do... I think it was before Christmas?
My 25th anniversary is coming up and I don't want to have to go to the local McDs to get those collectible Hamburglar drink glasses. An Iowahawk mug would do really nicely.
What ever happened to the Iowahawk gear you were going to do... I think it was before Christmas?
My 25th anniversary is coming up and I don't want to have to go to the local McDs to get those collectible Hamburglar drink glasses. An Iowahawk mug would do really nicely.
Posted by: Y-not is not stalking Iowahawk, promise! at June 16, 2009 05:20 PM (sey23)
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"You're being obtuse. Intentionally racist comparisons of blacks to monkeys / apes goes back quite a long time, and you know it."
Watch Asians playing blackjack sometime. When they want a face card, they yell "monkey!". Do you know why they do that? It's because the Jack, Queen, and King feature a white person, and they think white people look like monkeys.
Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about, fuckers, and if any of you have spent time in Asia you know exactly what I was talking about. I returned from Asia significantly more...ardent in my racial beliefs because of the anti-white sentiment (note I did not say racism) I experienced there.
"why is it that everything is suddenly RAAAACIST!!!111eleventy?"
Because you fuckers never fight back and it always works.
"Go back to Stormfront, douchebag."
You know why I don't go to Stormfront? Because they cover the stories the MSM ignores - mostly black on white murder and rape (Channon Christian & Chris Newsom, for example) - and it makes me want to puke, I can't bear to read them. That is why I don't go to Stormfront.
Watch Asians playing blackjack sometime. When they want a face card, they yell "monkey!". Do you know why they do that? It's because the Jack, Queen, and King feature a white person, and they think white people look like monkeys.
Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about, fuckers, and if any of you have spent time in Asia you know exactly what I was talking about. I returned from Asia significantly more...ardent in my racial beliefs because of the anti-white sentiment (note I did not say racism) I experienced there.
"why is it that everything is suddenly RAAAACIST!!!111eleventy?"
Because you fuckers never fight back and it always works.
"Go back to Stormfront, douchebag."
You know why I don't go to Stormfront? Because they cover the stories the MSM ignores - mostly black on white murder and rape (Channon Christian & Chris Newsom, for example) - and it makes me want to puke, I can't bear to read them. That is why I don't go to Stormfront.
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 05:21 PM (qSWxU)
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Watch Asians playing blackjack sometime. When they want a face card, they yell "monkey!". Do you know why they do that? It's because the Jack, Queen, and King feature a white person, and they think white people look like monkeys.
So that means we should emulate them?
So that means we should emulate them?
Posted by: Y-not at June 16, 2009 05:22 PM (sey23)
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Jokes about someone's facial characteristics are
in a completely different league than those focusing on a person's
race. A joke comparing Obama to Dumbo for having large ears? OK.
Comparing Obama to a monkey? Not OK. It's not that difficultto
figure out where the line is.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 05:01 PM (plsiE)
I disagree with the example. Bush was called a chimp, so I call Obama a chimp. It has nothing to do with his fucking race. I'd call him a chimp even if he was white. I don't care if people used to call black people monkeys. They used to also say they're stupid. Does that mean I can't call Obama a fucking dumbass anymore? No. I'll be more than happy to be civilized to Dem politicians if Dems are civilized with our politicians. They're not, and they're considerably worse than we are, so Ogabe gets no pass from me.
in a completely different league than those focusing on a person's
race. A joke comparing Obama to Dumbo for having large ears? OK.
Comparing Obama to a monkey? Not OK. It's not that difficultto
figure out where the line is.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2009 05:01 PM (plsiE)
I disagree with the example. Bush was called a chimp, so I call Obama a chimp. It has nothing to do with his fucking race. I'd call him a chimp even if he was white. I don't care if people used to call black people monkeys. They used to also say they're stupid. Does that mean I can't call Obama a fucking dumbass anymore? No. I'll be more than happy to be civilized to Dem politicians if Dems are civilized with our politicians. They're not, and they're considerably worse than we are, so Ogabe gets no pass from me.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 05:24 PM (xVKXy)
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Moloch, I'm one of those blue collar people .
My mom was an academic and my father an army officer .
I'm blue collar by choice and inclination .
I hope you choke on your next mouthful of caviar .
Fuck off J.P. Morgan .
My mom was an academic and my father an army officer .
I'm blue collar by choice and inclination .
I hope you choke on your next mouthful of caviar .
Fuck off J.P. Morgan .
Posted by: aubrey at June 16, 2009 05:25 PM (vJZ+j)
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o/t
Lead story on ABC Radio News was John Ensign's (R, Nevada) affair with a staffer.
No mention of Little Dick Durbin's insider trading.
Lead story on ABC Radio News was John Ensign's (R, Nevada) affair with a staffer.
No mention of Little Dick Durbin's insider trading.
Posted by: Iblis at June 16, 2009 05:25 PM (9221z)
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You know what we do at our skinhead parties? Suck each other off, mostly.
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 05:27 PM (qSWxU)
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Whip your selves all you like,you can't shed enough blood to satisfy the people on the other side who are drinking it.You can crawl on hands and knees till the bone shows and you are still what you are to the "we won crowd" they ain't gonna let you forget it and their never going to take their collective foot off your throats.
If the MSM has branded you a racist you don't have to confirm that to them,they've done it for you and no word of denial from you will move them and inch.
I'm old,I ain't got a lot of time here or anywhere else,so I'll let the people who have a lot of time do the a-- kissing for me and while I'm at it I'll tell those on the other side to kiss mine.
If the MSM has branded you a racist you don't have to confirm that to them,they've done it for you and no word of denial from you will move them and inch.
I'm old,I ain't got a lot of time here or anywhere else,so I'll let the people who have a lot of time do the a-- kissing for me and while I'm at it I'll tell those on the other side to kiss mine.
Posted by: Nug Tun at June 16, 2009 05:27 PM (Q+z3h)
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Attn morons who don't already know this:
"Nigel Tufts" AKA "Adriana Lima" is actually a troll/moby named Dickie Warman, a Canadian left-wing asshole who's pretending to be a Stormfront racist asshole in order to bait other commenters into making racist remarks so he can report to his authorities what racist scum we are.
He is best either ridiculed or ignored.
"Nigel Tufts" AKA "Adriana Lima" is actually a troll/moby named Dickie Warman, a Canadian left-wing asshole who's pretending to be a Stormfront racist asshole in order to bait other commenters into making racist remarks so he can report to his authorities what racist scum we are.
He is best either ridiculed or ignored.
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 16, 2009 05:29 PM (FnH/u)
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Dumb bastards, scumbag idiots making jokes like that, they aren't even funny let alone something you should even consider as a politician. Good lord, reprehensible morons.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 16, 2009 05:33 PM (PQY7w)
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No, Oregon, I'm the most dominant internet commenter in world history ... I also own the Guiness World Record for largest rectum. It stretches 1 ft 3 inches in diameter ... large enough to fit a midget in there with a little lube.
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 05:34 PM (qSWxU)
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Thanks for the heads up OregonMuse. I just don't understand why a cocksucking nazi antagonist is tolerated here. If I wanted to read the ravings of cross-eyed buck-toothed hermaphrodite I'd go to any number of leftwing blogs; I want to read the rantings of drooling morons in peace.
Posted by: The Great Satan™ at June 16, 2009 05:35 PM (knIKF)
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He is best either ridiculed or ignored.
So the airstrike might be overkill?
So the airstrike might be overkill?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 16, 2009 05:38 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 05:41 PM (ao5cQ)
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The gorilla couldn't have been one of Michelle's ancestors, anyway.
Prob'ly a cousin, six times removed.
Darwin said so
Prob'ly a cousin, six times removed.
Darwin said so
Posted by: franksalterego at June 16, 2009 05:43 PM (GKyIE)
Posted by: Unicles at June 16, 2009 05:43 PM (Bmhek)
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aubrey,
I wouldn't be bothered by some twit who can't spell border and who seems to be unclear on the concept of illegal immigration, as opposed to legal immigration.
Then again, I just discovered that I've been wrong about my sexual orientation these past 40+ years, so what do I know?
aubrey,
I wouldn't be bothered by some twit who can't spell border and who seems to be unclear on the concept of illegal immigration, as opposed to legal immigration.
Then again, I just discovered that I've been wrong about my sexual orientation these past 40+ years, so what do I know?
Posted by: Y-not is not stalking Iowahawk; mtcmtauth= at June 16, 2009 05:46 PM (sey23)
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Maybe someone with a better memory than I have could name the verses, but I recall a whole lot of teaching in church and Sunday School about how what was done in secret would be shouted from rooftops. And besides which, Jesus always knew. Always. No matter how careful you were to make sure no one knew your shameful secret, Jesus knew. The moral lesson was very clear... don't do anything that you don't want people to know about... don't say anything about anyone that you wouldn't want them to hear.
It's not a bad way to live.
And it's a VERY good way to stay out of trouble.
It's not a bad way to live.
And it's a VERY good way to stay out of trouble.
Posted by: Synova at June 16, 2009 05:46 PM (NxP4A)
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What fucking world do people live who think it's not racist to compare black people to monkeys or apes?
You can couch it in some sort of tit for tat over the Bush=Chimp thing but that requires either being ignorant of or ignoring hundreds of years of racial crap in this country.
As for the fact that blacks don't vote Republicans so who cares? Again, what the fuck? When did basic human decency become a utilitarian virtue?
You can couch it in some sort of tit for tat over the Bush=Chimp thing but that requires either being ignorant of or ignoring hundreds of years of racial crap in this country.
As for the fact that blacks don't vote Republicans so who cares? Again, what the fuck? When did basic human decency become a utilitarian virtue?
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 05:52 PM (iTt2X)
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So ... of all the shit to hit Obama on ... these dumbfucks have nothing to do but spend all day sending a bunch of racist emails back and forth?
Fire them for general incompetency, never mind the race thing.
And as far as the ChimpyBush thing ... well I'll admit to replacing Bush with Obama a few times just to see the leftists squeal about it.
But I wouldn't be doing that crap from the RNC. Fair or not, you know how it's going to be played.
As far as the one where you can only see their eyes in the dark? C'mon. Straight up (unfunny) bigotry.
So stupid. There are a million things I don't like about King Obama and his fat, skank wife. Their black skin ain't one of them.
Fire them for general incompetency, never mind the race thing.
And as far as the ChimpyBush thing ... well I'll admit to replacing Bush with Obama a few times just to see the leftists squeal about it.
But I wouldn't be doing that crap from the RNC. Fair or not, you know how it's going to be played.
As far as the one where you can only see their eyes in the dark? C'mon. Straight up (unfunny) bigotry.
So stupid. There are a million things I don't like about King Obama and his fat, skank wife. Their black skin ain't one of them.
Posted by: Warden at June 16, 2009 05:56 PM (QoR4a)
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What fucking world do people live who think it's not racist to compare black people to monkeys or apes?
I don't agree but I appreciate the sentiment, which is whyI try to compare Hussein to a sack of shit and not a gorilla, unless it's an anorexic gorilla with big ears. Let me also note that blacks don't have a monopoly on lynching soI don't want to be called a racist whenI say "hang that treasonous liberal shitstain."
I don't agree but I appreciate the sentiment, which is whyI try to compare Hussein to a sack of shit and not a gorilla, unless it's an anorexic gorilla with big ears. Let me also note that blacks don't have a monopoly on lynching soI don't want to be called a racist whenI say "hang that treasonous liberal shitstain."
Posted by: The Great Satan™ at June 16, 2009 05:57 PM (knIKF)
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Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 05:52 PM (iTt2X)
What fucking world do people live who think it's not racist to compare black people to monkeys or apes?
People who are firm believers in context?
You
can couch it in some sort of tit for tat over the Bush=Chimp thing
I'm not couching anything. Are you saying it's impossible for me to call Obama a chimp without being racist?
but
that requires either being ignorant of or ignoring hundreds of years of
racial crap in this country.
First, I'm not American (though I don't think it makes a difference; even if I was, I didn't enslave or discriminate against black people and thus do not think I should be held responsible just because my theoretical ancestors may have been guilty of it, which in reality they were not because they've been in east europe for as far back as I remember). But if you follow this logic and if you're gonna say I'm just using excuses to hide my racism, at least have the decency to answer my original argument:
1. Black people were also called stupid. As in mentally inferior (to white people in particular).
2. Due to the history of racism, which includes considering blacks to be mentally deficient, is it OK to make insults regarding Obama's intelligence? If yes, how is it different from calling him a chimp?
What fucking world do people live who think it's not racist to compare black people to monkeys or apes?
People who are firm believers in context?
You
can couch it in some sort of tit for tat over the Bush=Chimp thing
I'm not couching anything. Are you saying it's impossible for me to call Obama a chimp without being racist?
but
that requires either being ignorant of or ignoring hundreds of years of
racial crap in this country.
First, I'm not American (though I don't think it makes a difference; even if I was, I didn't enslave or discriminate against black people and thus do not think I should be held responsible just because my theoretical ancestors may have been guilty of it, which in reality they were not because they've been in east europe for as far back as I remember). But if you follow this logic and if you're gonna say I'm just using excuses to hide my racism, at least have the decency to answer my original argument:
1. Black people were also called stupid. As in mentally inferior (to white people in particular).
2. Due to the history of racism, which includes considering blacks to be mentally deficient, is it OK to make insults regarding Obama's intelligence? If yes, how is it different from calling him a chimp?
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 05:58 PM (xVKXy)
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"What fucking world do people live who think it's not racist to compare black people to monkeys or apes?'
I am aware of this past, but in what fucking world has a "black" person ever been President of the United States? I am sick of this shit.
I think that the Michelle jokes are unacceptable, but if put in context, comparing Barack "I like to fling shit, shriek, and beat my chest like all liberals do" Obama to an ape is acceptable.
"As for the fact that blacks don't vote Republicans so who cares? Again,
what the fuck? When did basic human decency become a utilitarian
virtue?"
Agree with that completely.
I am aware of this past, but in what fucking world has a "black" person ever been President of the United States? I am sick of this shit.
I think that the Michelle jokes are unacceptable, but if put in context, comparing Barack "I like to fling shit, shriek, and beat my chest like all liberals do" Obama to an ape is acceptable.
"As for the fact that blacks don't vote Republicans so who cares? Again,
what the fuck? When did basic human decency become a utilitarian
virtue?"
Agree with that completely.
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 06:00 PM (GvgvT)
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I used to be OK with being around black people, but they kept cummingin my asseven though they promised not to. The also never tipped. Is a 50 cent tip really too much to ask when I only charge $5 to be the bottom?
Also, their big yummy cocks stretched my anus too much.
Also, their big yummy cocks stretched my anus too much.
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 06:02 PM (plsiE)
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So, yeah, slam the MSM for bias and all that or for highlighting Republican scandals of this sort while giving Democrats a pass. There's truth in that. But no one should have any illusions that this stuff isn't exactly made up out of thin air, and we have a lot of our fellow conservatives and Republicans to thank.
Not defending that stupid shit, but I just wonder why the media neverevereverever reports the same kind of stupid shit when the Democrats do it.
And don't tell me they don't.
Not defending that stupid shit, but I just wonder why the media neverevereverever reports the same kind of stupid shit when the Democrats do it.
And don't tell me they don't.
Posted by: FUBAR at June 16, 2009 06:03 PM (J5Srq)
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On a complete tangent....
The idiocy that some races weren't as evolved as other races was the Global Warming of its day.
It was the height of science and reason, along with Eugenics, no one questioned the Truth of the scientific consensus of Evolution and Darwinism except for those very pesky Christians. I've heard, and would love to confirm, that compared to the brief mention of Evolution in the "Inherit the Wind" textbook, the bits of consensus wisdom about breeding better people and inherited traits in that textbook were significant.
And who would be so anti-science as to question it? Why so hostile against Science?
A little bit of understanding about inherited traits and people were all over that... sloth and moral weakness were considered inherited, poverty was considered genetic, and people who were not white European were *definitely* considered less evolved and genetically inferior. The "enlightened" in our own country were looking for (and finding) test cases to prove in order to force sterilization of the morally and mentally weak. The foundation of Planned Parenthood was to encourage Black women to stop breeding. The cases of sterilization without consent on Indian reservations is completely shocking.
This was SCIENCE.
And it was consensus... unquestioned by modern and forward thinkers who weren't afraid to embrace the truths Science gave us and reject the superstitions of the people who came before.
Of course it was all entirely an excuse to embrace pre-existing racial attitudes about superiority and inferiority and all under the unassailable auspices of Science and Progress.
The idiocy that some races weren't as evolved as other races was the Global Warming of its day.
It was the height of science and reason, along with Eugenics, no one questioned the Truth of the scientific consensus of Evolution and Darwinism except for those very pesky Christians. I've heard, and would love to confirm, that compared to the brief mention of Evolution in the "Inherit the Wind" textbook, the bits of consensus wisdom about breeding better people and inherited traits in that textbook were significant.
And who would be so anti-science as to question it? Why so hostile against Science?
A little bit of understanding about inherited traits and people were all over that... sloth and moral weakness were considered inherited, poverty was considered genetic, and people who were not white European were *definitely* considered less evolved and genetically inferior. The "enlightened" in our own country were looking for (and finding) test cases to prove in order to force sterilization of the morally and mentally weak. The foundation of Planned Parenthood was to encourage Black women to stop breeding. The cases of sterilization without consent on Indian reservations is completely shocking.
This was SCIENCE.
And it was consensus... unquestioned by modern and forward thinkers who weren't afraid to embrace the truths Science gave us and reject the superstitions of the people who came before.
Of course it was all entirely an excuse to embrace pre-existing racial attitudes about superiority and inferiority and all under the unassailable auspices of Science and Progress.
Posted by: Synova at June 16, 2009 06:04 PM (NxP4A)
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Lighten up. Someone sent me the email. I laughed mostly out of surprise at how un-PC it was. And I got over it.
Posted by: HawaiiLwyr at June 16, 2009 06:06 PM (TLh3z)
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Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 05:58 PM (xVKXy)
What context exactly make it okay?
As for not being an American I think that makes a difference. Not because you have some magical moral authority (my impoverished Irish ancestors who came here 40 years after the Civil War didn't own any slaves) but foreigners may not be aware of the societal meaning of certain things.
Certain insults are related to specific times and places. For example, the whole shoe thing in the Mideast was a new one on me. It's just not the same in the US.
Americans however know exactly the history of comparing blacks to apes and monkeys.
What context exactly make it okay?
As for not being an American I think that makes a difference. Not because you have some magical moral authority (my impoverished Irish ancestors who came here 40 years after the Civil War didn't own any slaves) but foreigners may not be aware of the societal meaning of certain things.
Certain insults are related to specific times and places. For example, the whole shoe thing in the Mideast was a new one on me. It's just not the same in the US.
Americans however know exactly the history of comparing blacks to apes and monkeys.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 06:07 PM (iTt2X)
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"Certain insults are related to specific times and places. For example,
the whole shoe thing in the Mideast was a new one on me. It's just not
the same in the US.
Americans however know exactly the history of comparing blacks to apes and monkeys."
Isn't what you said here kind of contradictory in this "post-racial" age? "Certain insults are related to specific times and places...Americans however know exactly the HISTORY...".
Context = Barack Obama is POTUS
the whole shoe thing in the Mideast was a new one on me. It's just not
the same in the US.
Americans however know exactly the history of comparing blacks to apes and monkeys."
Isn't what you said here kind of contradictory in this "post-racial" age? "Certain insults are related to specific times and places...Americans however know exactly the HISTORY...".
Context = Barack Obama is POTUS
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 06:10 PM (GvgvT)
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What context exactly make it okay?
The bush = chimp context.
As for not being an American
I think that makes a difference. Not because you have some magical
moral authority (my impoverished Irish ancestors who came here 40 years
after the Civil War didn't own any slaves) but foreigners may not be
aware of the societal meaning of certain things.
I am perfectly aware of the societal meaning of it, as it's not the first time it's popped up. I just think that the left calling bush a chimp overrides it. Just because some racists were using it as a racist slur doesn't mean me or others are using it for the same reason. I already explained why I'm using it: payback for bush. You can either accept it, whether you like it or not, or you can keep smearing us as racists just because you don't like it. And anyway, it's not much different from Ace calling Michelle a wookie (which are fairly ape-like) or a klingon.
Certain
insults are related to specific times and places. For example, the
whole shoe thing in the Mideast was a new one on me. It's just not the
same in the US.
Americans however know exactly the history of comparing blacks to apes and monkeys.
I notice there's a distinct lack of an answer to the "obama is an idiot" question I asked, which is identical to comparing blacks to apes and monkeys in every relevant way.
The bush = chimp context.
As for not being an American
I think that makes a difference. Not because you have some magical
moral authority (my impoverished Irish ancestors who came here 40 years
after the Civil War didn't own any slaves) but foreigners may not be
aware of the societal meaning of certain things.
I am perfectly aware of the societal meaning of it, as it's not the first time it's popped up. I just think that the left calling bush a chimp overrides it. Just because some racists were using it as a racist slur doesn't mean me or others are using it for the same reason. I already explained why I'm using it: payback for bush. You can either accept it, whether you like it or not, or you can keep smearing us as racists just because you don't like it. And anyway, it's not much different from Ace calling Michelle a wookie (which are fairly ape-like) or a klingon.
Certain
insults are related to specific times and places. For example, the
whole shoe thing in the Mideast was a new one on me. It's just not the
same in the US.
Americans however know exactly the history of comparing blacks to apes and monkeys.
I notice there's a distinct lack of an answer to the "obama is an idiot" question I asked, which is identical to comparing blacks to apes and monkeys in every relevant way.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 06:16 PM (xVKXy)
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"And anyway, it's not much different from Ace calling Michelle a wookie (which are fairly ape-like) or a klingon."
I don't care much for that. Reallly, I prefer to stay away from commenting on Michelle unless the media is fawning over her. BTW, checkout manolith for the hottest women in politics.
I don't care much for that. Reallly, I prefer to stay away from commenting on Michelle unless the media is fawning over her. BTW, checkout manolith for the hottest women in politics.
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 06:22 PM (GvgvT)
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Context = Barack Obama is POTUS
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 06:10 PM (GvgvT)
I don't believe in the redemptive power of Obama to absolve all.
American isn't as racist as the left says it is but that's not to say there hasn't been and still is racism in this country.
Obama's election doesn't change that fact.
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 06:10 PM (GvgvT)
I don't believe in the redemptive power of Obama to absolve all.
American isn't as racist as the left says it is but that's not to say there hasn't been and still is racism in this country.
Obama's election doesn't change that fact.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 06:28 PM (iTt2X)
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Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 06:28 PM (iTt2X)
I think he means that obama = potus = fair game to chimp jokes
I think he means that obama = potus = fair game to chimp jokes
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 06:29 PM (xVKXy)
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The bush = chimp context.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 06:16 PM (xVKXy)
That's not context, it's justification.
Calling a white man a chimp simply isn't the same as calling a black man one.
Even in post racial society (which is more an aspirational notion than a likely future given human history), it's still simply not the same.
Given inter-racial marriage rates, there may come a day when race is meaningless but today isn't that day.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 06:16 PM (xVKXy)
That's not context, it's justification.
Calling a white man a chimp simply isn't the same as calling a black man one.
Even in post racial society (which is more an aspirational notion than a likely future given human history), it's still simply not the same.
Given inter-racial marriage rates, there may come a day when race is meaningless but today isn't that day.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 06:31 PM (iTt2X)
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{{{{YAWN}}}}
Somebody wake me when hillbilly secretary gets a late night TV show or elected to a senate seat from WV.
Somebody wake me when hillbilly secretary gets a late night TV show or elected to a senate seat from WV.
Posted by: turtle at June 16, 2009 06:32 PM (N5Xhz)
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I am so sick of overplayed racism I no longer give a shit. Obama could not do more to destroy this country if he were doing it on purpose with thousands helping him. ......Oh, he is doing it on purpose. So who do I hate?
43% of whites
66% of Hispanics
56% of women
54% of catholics
63% of asians
78% of jews
90% of blacks
25% of evangelicals
http://tinyurl.com/l33ovo
My job is almost gone, house is worth less, my retirement savings are half gone, inflation is coming, now health benefits will be taxed to give illegals government insurance. I hate democrats and anybody who supports them.. Their feelings get hurt by a little name calling?. Too bad. Fuck them, fuck their parents, fuck their race, and fuck the horse they rode in on.
43% of whites
66% of Hispanics
56% of women
54% of catholics
63% of asians
78% of jews
90% of blacks
25% of evangelicals
http://tinyurl.com/l33ovo
My job is almost gone, house is worth less, my retirement savings are half gone, inflation is coming, now health benefits will be taxed to give illegals government insurance. I hate democrats and anybody who supports them.. Their feelings get hurt by a little name calling?. Too bad. Fuck them, fuck their parents, fuck their race, and fuck the horse they rode in on.
Posted by: Snookered at June 16, 2009 06:33 PM (h3PdB)
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I think he means that obama = potus = fair game to chimp jokes
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 06:29 PM (xVKXy)
I still don't buy it. Obama is black (in a social sense, not necessarily in a purely racial sense). There's no escaping that.
Given the history of race relations in this country, it's simply not the same as calling a white man a chimp
Try this...go up to a random white guy and call him a chimp, monkey or ape. Then try it with a a black guy. I'm willing to be you will get very different reactions because of who they are and what that means in the context of 200+ years of history.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 06:29 PM (xVKXy)
I still don't buy it. Obama is black (in a social sense, not necessarily in a purely racial sense). There's no escaping that.
Given the history of race relations in this country, it's simply not the same as calling a white man a chimp
Try this...go up to a random white guy and call him a chimp, monkey or ape. Then try it with a a black guy. I'm willing to be you will get very different reactions because of who they are and what that means in the context of 200+ years of history.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 06:34 PM (iTt2X)
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POTUS=fair game. exactly.
After the chimp cartoon controversy, I saw a commenter at the NYT say "You will have to pry out of my cold, dead hands my right to compare a politician to an ape". It is at that point that I was finally proud of my country : )
I'm going to say it: I don't think that Michelle Obama looks that bad (she isn't the hawtest as the press would lead you to believe). I think that the Obama's are more intelligent than most americans (white or black or whatever), I just think that Barack should've have taken more Math classes (and History classes, and classes in Constitutional Law) and that they, as liberals, are generally misinformed.
Thinking that someone is inferior because of the color of their skin is racism.
On that point, and I know some of you will think I am racist by even bringing it up (though it may just be ignorance, when did we start confusing the two?), but how is pointing out a salient characteristic racist as in the black background cartoon? What if the caption were "The Most Transparent Administration Ever"?
After the chimp cartoon controversy, I saw a commenter at the NYT say "You will have to pry out of my cold, dead hands my right to compare a politician to an ape". It is at that point that I was finally proud of my country : )
I'm going to say it: I don't think that Michelle Obama looks that bad (she isn't the hawtest as the press would lead you to believe). I think that the Obama's are more intelligent than most americans (white or black or whatever), I just think that Barack should've have taken more Math classes (and History classes, and classes in Constitutional Law) and that they, as liberals, are generally misinformed.
Thinking that someone is inferior because of the color of their skin is racism.
On that point, and I know some of you will think I am racist by even bringing it up (though it may just be ignorance, when did we start confusing the two?), but how is pointing out a salient characteristic racist as in the black background cartoon? What if the caption were "The Most Transparent Administration Ever"?
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 06:37 PM (GvgvT)
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That's not context, it's justification.
They justification pretty much describes the context.
Dude A calls Obama a chimp.
Dude B calls Obama a chimp.
Dude A calls Obama a chimp because Obama's black.
Dude B calls Obama a chimp as payback for Bush.
See where the context comes in? The reason (or justification, if you will) of why you're calling Obama a chimp pretty much dictates the context.
Calling a white man a chimp simply isn't the same as calling a black man one.
I'm not calling "a black man" a chimp. I'm calling the Democrat President a chimp. His race is irrelevant.
Even
in post racial society (which is more an aspirational notion than a
likely future given human history), it's still simply not the same.
Yes it is. I agree that it's not a post racial society though, hence the double standard.
And for the third time, is it OK to call Obama a moron? If yes, how is it different from calling him a chimp in light of a past of America in which black people were considered dumb?
They justification pretty much describes the context.
Dude A calls Obama a chimp.
Dude B calls Obama a chimp.
Dude A calls Obama a chimp because Obama's black.
Dude B calls Obama a chimp as payback for Bush.
See where the context comes in? The reason (or justification, if you will) of why you're calling Obama a chimp pretty much dictates the context.
Calling a white man a chimp simply isn't the same as calling a black man one.
I'm not calling "a black man" a chimp. I'm calling the Democrat President a chimp. His race is irrelevant.
Even
in post racial society (which is more an aspirational notion than a
likely future given human history), it's still simply not the same.
Yes it is. I agree that it's not a post racial society though, hence the double standard.
And for the third time, is it OK to call Obama a moron? If yes, how is it different from calling him a chimp in light of a past of America in which black people were considered dumb?
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 06:37 PM (xVKXy)
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Try this...go up to a random white guy and call him a chimp, monkey or
ape. Then try it with a a black guy. I'm willing to be you will get
very different reactions because of who they are and what that means in
the context of 200+ years of history.
Which says what about my intentions and the intentions of others who call Obama a chimp? That's right: nothing. Meaning dictates racism.
ape. Then try it with a a black guy. I'm willing to be you will get
very different reactions because of who they are and what that means in
the context of 200+ years of history.
Which says what about my intentions and the intentions of others who call Obama a chimp? That's right: nothing. Meaning dictates racism.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 06:41 PM (xVKXy)
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"Try this...go up to a random white guy and call him a chimp, monkey
or ape. Then try it with a a black guy. I'm willing to be you will get
very different reactions because of who they are and what that means in
the context of 200+ years of history."
So who is causing the problem here?
"because of who they are"
Isn't that a bit prejudiced?
or ape. Then try it with a a black guy. I'm willing to be you will get
very different reactions because of who they are and what that means in
the context of 200+ years of history."
So who is causing the problem here?
"because of who they are"
Isn't that a bit prejudiced?
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 06:41 PM (GvgvT)
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Oh please, this is cause for excitement? If Michelle was white the joke would still be insulting yet somehow not rascist.
As for the second gag, are we going to retroactively have a hissy fit about the movie 'Hair' in which the same gag was used in a dance sequence in a darkened tunnel. Not to mention the endless Bugs Bunny cartoons and others of the sort using the same sort of gag. But do those not count because Bugs isn't black?
It's time to learn you can never win with people whose first instinct is to play the race card. Everything is somehow to be interpreted racially and you're always guilty. The only working reaction is to tell them to screw themselves if they can't take a joke. I refuse to walk on eggshells for offenses I never committed to people I've never met.
As for the second gag, are we going to retroactively have a hissy fit about the movie 'Hair' in which the same gag was used in a dance sequence in a darkened tunnel. Not to mention the endless Bugs Bunny cartoons and others of the sort using the same sort of gag. But do those not count because Bugs isn't black?
It's time to learn you can never win with people whose first instinct is to play the race card. Everything is somehow to be interpreted racially and you're always guilty. The only working reaction is to tell them to screw themselves if they can't take a joke. I refuse to walk on eggshells for offenses I never committed to people I've never met.
Posted by: epobirs at June 16, 2009 06:42 PM (g6ryf)
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Whoop-de-fucking doo. Back to ruining the country.
Posted by: MlR at June 16, 2009 06:46 PM (0vdx6)
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Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 06:37 PM (xVKXy)
Are you going to pretend that monkey/ape/gorilla insults don't have a special place in America's past?
Many groups have been considered stupid or intellectually inferior, so I'd say the sting isn't quite the same.
Are you going to pretend that monkey/ape/gorilla insults don't have a special place in America's past?
Many groups have been considered stupid or intellectually inferior, so I'd say the sting isn't quite the same.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 07:00 PM (iTt2X)
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 07:01 PM (iTt2X)
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 07:06 PM (x4c0h)
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About Gilded Sasquatch:
Ace is not an fing senator, and its clearly not as racially tinted. I mean, if she was exactly the same but white, we would call her a Yeti.
Ace is not an fing senator, and its clearly not as racially tinted. I mean, if she was exactly the same but white, we would call her a Yeti.
Posted by: Scandi Dirt at June 16, 2009 07:13 PM (x47Ed)
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Are you going to pretend that monkey/ape/gorilla insults don't have a special place in America's past?
They have as special a place as "mentally deficient" does. That is, they should not be used to smear an entire race but are fair game when used against the leader of a group of people who use them against yours.
Many groups have been considered stupid or intellectually inferior, so I'd say the sting isn't quite the same.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 07:00 PM (iTt2X)
So it's an issue of originality now? Give me a break. And it's still off anyway, because ape has been used as an insult against more than just blacks (the irish and jews, off the top of my head, I'm sure I could find more if I wasn't terminally lazy).
They have as special a place as "mentally deficient" does. That is, they should not be used to smear an entire race but are fair game when used against the leader of a group of people who use them against yours.
Many groups have been considered stupid or intellectually inferior, so I'd say the sting isn't quite the same.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 07:00 PM (iTt2X)
So it's an issue of originality now? Give me a break. And it's still off anyway, because ape has been used as an insult against more than just blacks (the irish and jews, off the top of my head, I'm sure I could find more if I wasn't terminally lazy).
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 07:25 PM (xVKXy)
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Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 07:25 PM (xVKXy)
You realize that blacks take special offense to monkey/ape references and yet you are pretty excited about finding a loophole that let's you call one specific man a monkey or an ape.
How come?
You realize that blacks take special offense to monkey/ape references and yet you are pretty excited about finding a loophole that let's you call one specific man a monkey or an ape.
How come?
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 07:34 PM (iTt2X)
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You realize that blacks take special offense to monkey/ape references
and yet you are pretty excited about finding a loophole that let's you
call one specific man a monkey or an ape.How come?
I'm not "excited" about anything. The only emotion I have right now is annoyance at your rush to flippantly call me and others racist over this. As far as I remember, the only time I actually called Obama a chimp was when I made a collage similar to the Bush one with different obama expressions next to similar monkey expressions (a collage that I seem to have lost, sadly).
And "blacks" routinely take special offense at a lot of things. Some consider any criticism of Obama to be racist. Some consider Ace's wookie/klingon jokes to be racist. Feel free to do that "call a white man/black man a wookie/klingon" test of yours to confirm it if you want. Most blacks are very sensitive to being called just about anything by white people and routinely take any attack on them as racism (and yes, I witnessed and experienced this routinely as I went to a mostly black high school and my city has a decently sized black population). If I went out of my way to not do anything some blacks might find offensive I wouldn't be allowed to call Obama anything at all and a world where I can't call obama a drooling mentally deficient cockholster isn't a world I want to raise my kids in. I don't call blacks as a race names. I don't call specific blacks names because of their race. I don't use insults that are explicitly racist (IE: the N word). That's all I should be reasonably expected to do.
and yet you are pretty excited about finding a loophole that let's you
call one specific man a monkey or an ape.How come?
I'm not "excited" about anything. The only emotion I have right now is annoyance at your rush to flippantly call me and others racist over this. As far as I remember, the only time I actually called Obama a chimp was when I made a collage similar to the Bush one with different obama expressions next to similar monkey expressions (a collage that I seem to have lost, sadly).
And "blacks" routinely take special offense at a lot of things. Some consider any criticism of Obama to be racist. Some consider Ace's wookie/klingon jokes to be racist. Feel free to do that "call a white man/black man a wookie/klingon" test of yours to confirm it if you want. Most blacks are very sensitive to being called just about anything by white people and routinely take any attack on them as racism (and yes, I witnessed and experienced this routinely as I went to a mostly black high school and my city has a decently sized black population). If I went out of my way to not do anything some blacks might find offensive I wouldn't be allowed to call Obama anything at all and a world where I can't call obama a drooling mentally deficient cockholster isn't a world I want to raise my kids in. I don't call blacks as a race names. I don't call specific blacks names because of their race. I don't use insults that are explicitly racist (IE: the N word). That's all I should be reasonably expected to do.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 07:56 PM (xVKXy)
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Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 07:56 PM (xVKXy)
Not all insults are created equal. You seem to get that. I think it's pretty clear that monkey/ape comparisons are pretty universally understood to be over the line and have been for a long, long time.
To pretend otherwise, just to score some payback for Bush insults seems beyond idiotic.
More to the point however, you are not necessarily the issue. People in public life, representing, however limited their role, a political party have no need to go near these lines.
Not all insults are created equal. You seem to get that. I think it's pretty clear that monkey/ape comparisons are pretty universally understood to be over the line and have been for a long, long time.
To pretend otherwise, just to score some payback for Bush insults seems beyond idiotic.
More to the point however, you are not necessarily the issue. People in public life, representing, however limited their role, a political party have no need to go near these lines.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 08:04 PM (iTt2X)
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"the stultifying envies of herd men who whine about illegal immigration"
I'm screenshotting that one. Told you this was a crypto blog, it's crawling with illegal immigration supporters and race hustlers, and now I've got proof. This loser thinks objecting to illegal immigration is "whining" and those who do so are envious "herd men".
Ace, ban this Marxist piece of shit, there is no fucking way you can justify an illegal immigration supporter commenting here, uh-uh, no way. This fucker insults working men while making excuses for criminals who have invaded your country and have no loyalty whatsoever to the USA. Your fucking country is going bankrupt because of cocksuckers like Moloch, and I'm the fucking problem here?
Enjoy paying for the health, education, incarceration, and pensions of people who haven't paid a dime of taxes, fuckers, you deserve it. No, wait, let's go one step further - you deserved to get snuffed out for not mounting any defense whatsoever to the raep of your country.
I'm screenshotting that one. Told you this was a crypto blog, it's crawling with illegal immigration supporters and race hustlers, and now I've got proof. This loser thinks objecting to illegal immigration is "whining" and those who do so are envious "herd men".
Ace, ban this Marxist piece of shit, there is no fucking way you can justify an illegal immigration supporter commenting here, uh-uh, no way. This fucker insults working men while making excuses for criminals who have invaded your country and have no loyalty whatsoever to the USA. Your fucking country is going bankrupt because of cocksuckers like Moloch, and I'm the fucking problem here?
Enjoy paying for the health, education, incarceration, and pensions of people who haven't paid a dime of taxes, fuckers, you deserve it. No, wait, let's go one step further - you deserved to get snuffed out for not mounting any defense whatsoever to the raep of your country.
Posted by: Nigel Tufts at June 16, 2009 08:08 PM (qSWxU)
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"People in public life, representing, however limited their role, a political party have no need to go near these lines."
This is true.
Drew, do you really think that Johnny or I are racist because we would like to call the President of the United States an ape or are you trying to say that we should pick our battles and unfortunately, this isn't the "post-racial" era that we were sold?
This is true.
Drew, do you really think that Johnny or I are racist because we would like to call the President of the United States an ape or are you trying to say that we should pick our battles and unfortunately, this isn't the "post-racial" era that we were sold?
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:11 PM (GvgvT)
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The thing is... if we Democrats let enough illegals in, we can pay them benefits with your money and keep the votes for ourselves.
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 08:12 PM (x4c0h)
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shit, why did i need to be stuck behind Nigel?
Guess it's better than being the last dude "stuck behind" Nigel.
Guess it's better than being the last dude "stuck behind" Nigel.
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:13 PM (GvgvT)
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Nigel, just find a black man/apeman joke, laugh laugh laugh, and hammer another 6-pack.
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 08:15 PM (x4c0h)
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Moloch is a concern troll. Spread the word.
At least he's calling us you Republicans now. His mobery was annoying.
At least he's calling us you Republicans now. His mobery was annoying.
Posted by: toby928 at June 16, 2009 08:16 PM (PD1tk)
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"Wow. You can't compete in the marketplace against barely literate workers?"
Faggot: speak het. Sentences featuring periods at the end, we've covered this. And trust me, I work in a vastly more intellectually demanding field than just about anyone, I get paid good money for my freakish ability to reason - in English et en francais, mon chum - despite the near-total ban on white anglophones here in Quebec. I'm just way too talented to discriminate against, they need me more than I need them. Now fuck off and don't ever speak again unless I specifically instruct you to do so.
Hey everyone: Moloch is an illegal immigration supporter. Run him the fuck out of this joint, he's harming America.
Faggot: speak het. Sentences featuring periods at the end, we've covered this. And trust me, I work in a vastly more intellectually demanding field than just about anyone, I get paid good money for my freakish ability to reason - in English et en francais, mon chum - despite the near-total ban on white anglophones here in Quebec. I'm just way too talented to discriminate against, they need me more than I need them. Now fuck off and don't ever speak again unless I specifically instruct you to do so.
Hey everyone: Moloch is an illegal immigration supporter. Run him the fuck out of this joint, he's harming America.
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"Wow. You can't compete in the marketplace against barely literate workers?"
That reminds me of the line :"You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?"
That reminds me of the line :"You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?"
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Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:11 PM (GvgvT)
What I'm saying is, why would you want to do this?
This isn't some new PC, super sensitive thing, this is an insult that's hundreds of years old and is pretty much universally recognized as a racist depiction of blacks.
Even if this were a post-racial age, this wouldn't be cool simply because unlike Obama and his worshipers we should know history didn't start on January 20th, 2009.
My guess is it will never be cool and personally I can live with that.
If we elect a Jew as President, will it suddenly be cool to depict him with a big, crooked nose because his election will mean we've moved past antisemitism?
My guess is that will never be cool because the imagery and what it means has been around too long and is too loaded.
What I'm saying is, why would you want to do this?
This isn't some new PC, super sensitive thing, this is an insult that's hundreds of years old and is pretty much universally recognized as a racist depiction of blacks.
Even if this were a post-racial age, this wouldn't be cool simply because unlike Obama and his worshipers we should know history didn't start on January 20th, 2009.
My guess is it will never be cool and personally I can live with that.
If we elect a Jew as President, will it suddenly be cool to depict him with a big, crooked nose because his election will mean we've moved past antisemitism?
My guess is that will never be cool because the imagery and what it means has been around too long and is too loaded.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 08:22 PM (iTt2X)
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" I get paid good money for my freakish ability to reason - in English et en francais, mon chum - despite the near-total ban on white anglophones here in Quebec."
Heh. It's no wonder that you are so obsessed with ethnicity: you're a minority!
Heh. It's no wonder that you are so obsessed with ethnicity: you're a minority!
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:23 PM (GvgvT)
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Not all insults are created equal. You seem to get
that. I think it's pretty clear that monkey/ape comparisons are pretty
universally understood to be over the line and have been for a long,
long time.
I'd replace that with "broadly believed to be over the line in America". "Understood" implies there's a rational mechanism behind it (there isn't). I have a low opinion of humanity in general so you'll forgive me if I don't really care about what they think on every freaking issue.
To pretend otherwise, just to score some payback for Bush insults seems beyond idiotic.
You don't get it. I'm not pretending otherwise. I DO NOT CARE. I have not been given adequate reasons to not use it therefore I'm using it. And no, you have not. You've pretty much acted like this guy, coming up with a new lame argument when the previous one doesn't work. That some people think it must be racist regardless of why I'm doing it is immaterial.
More
to the point however, you are not necessarily the issue. People in
public life, representing, however limited their role, a political
party have no need to go near these lines.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 08:04 PM (iTt2X)
I agree, not because I think it's wrong but because politicians need to be likable and stay popular with the idiot drooling masses who vote based on superficial appearances rather than substance and competence. However, the point I responded to was directed at people like me, not politicians.
that. I think it's pretty clear that monkey/ape comparisons are pretty
universally understood to be over the line and have been for a long,
long time.
I'd replace that with "broadly believed to be over the line in America". "Understood" implies there's a rational mechanism behind it (there isn't). I have a low opinion of humanity in general so you'll forgive me if I don't really care about what they think on every freaking issue.
To pretend otherwise, just to score some payback for Bush insults seems beyond idiotic.
You don't get it. I'm not pretending otherwise. I DO NOT CARE. I have not been given adequate reasons to not use it therefore I'm using it. And no, you have not. You've pretty much acted like this guy, coming up with a new lame argument when the previous one doesn't work. That some people think it must be racist regardless of why I'm doing it is immaterial.
More
to the point however, you are not necessarily the issue. People in
public life, representing, however limited their role, a political
party have no need to go near these lines.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 08:04 PM (iTt2X)
I agree, not because I think it's wrong but because politicians need to be likable and stay popular with the idiot drooling masses who vote based on superficial appearances rather than substance and competence. However, the point I responded to was directed at people like me, not politicians.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 08:23 PM (xVKXy)
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I don't know what toby believes, except what he divines in his shit every day. But I believe this country gives us all the greatest opportunity to succeed, by taking from the productive and giving to the unproductive.
That's why us Democrats love to keep people on welfare. For the votes.
That's why us Democrats love to keep people on welfare. For the votes.
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 08:24 PM (x4c0h)
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"What I'm saying is, why would you want to do this?"
I don't. But I am sick of being held intellectually captive because my skin isn't the right color.
And I don't think that portraying Barack Obama (or Edward Kennedy, for that matter) as a shrieking, shit flinging, chest-beating lib-oops, ape- should be off-limits.
I don't. But I am sick of being held intellectually captive because my skin isn't the right color.
And I don't think that portraying Barack Obama (or Edward Kennedy, for that matter) as a shrieking, shit flinging, chest-beating lib-oops, ape- should be off-limits.
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:37 PM (GvgvT)
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OK, I'll come clean: I crave latino cock, mostly because it is less expensive than white cock. That is the specific reason why I, Moloch, am an illegal immigration supporter. Flooding America with twelve million illegal penises willing to be sucked cheaply might very well be the greatest thing that has ever happened in my life, hell, I "keep 6" at the border sometimes to help smuggle them into America.
I do admit I'm a bit embarrassed to be an illegal immigration supporter, that's why I'm so desperately trying to change the topic and try to paint all illegal immigration opponents as emittered angry white people. I'm an ethnic by the way, with a grudge against white people, in case that wasn't obvious.
So, to summarize, I, Moloch, crave affordable latino cock, and that is why I, Moloch, am a big, big illegal immigration supporter.
I do admit I'm a bit embarrassed to be an illegal immigration supporter, that's why I'm so desperately trying to change the topic and try to paint all illegal immigration opponents as emittered angry white people. I'm an ethnic by the way, with a grudge against white people, in case that wasn't obvious.
So, to summarize, I, Moloch, crave affordable latino cock, and that is why I, Moloch, am a big, big illegal immigration supporter.
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 08:37 PM (qSWxU)
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"universally recognized as a racist depiction of blacks."
Apparently not recognized universally as a depiction of politicians.
Apparently not recognized universally as a depiction of politicians.
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:42 PM (GvgvT)
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I don't know what toby believes
Well duh. You didn't get that slackjaw by concentrating, moby dickweed.
Well duh. You didn't get that slackjaw by concentrating, moby dickweed.
Posted by: toby928 at June 16, 2009 08:43 PM (PD1tk)
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Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:42 PM (GvgvT)
No, it's not a universal depiction of politicians.
Are you honestly dense enough to think you can separate Obama's race from his political position anyway?
I don't think you are and yet you are making that argument.
No, it's not a universal depiction of politicians.
Are you honestly dense enough to think you can separate Obama's race from his political position anyway?
I don't think you are and yet you are making that argument.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 08:45 PM (iTt2X)
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And yes, the comment about Michelle was dumb and probably racist.
I'm sorry, I know the cartoons that you are referring to Drew, but in my mind there is a huge disconnect, conceptually, between a black person and an ape (hence the "probably racist").
I'm sorry, I know the cartoons that you are referring to Drew, but in my mind there is a huge disconnect, conceptually, between a black person and an ape (hence the "probably racist").
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:47 PM (GvgvT)
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Well, virgil that's the kind of racism that's gonna kill us Democrats. We need the Latino vote. They're the future. They make babies like crazy.
Stick with the monkey jokes.
Stick with the monkey jokes.
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 08:48 PM (x4c0h)
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It's a shame they didn't joke about the obama girls getting knocked up at a Nats game. That would have been ok, right?
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Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 08:45 PM (iTt2X)
I liked to think that we could do it here without one of our own jumping on our back over it.
I liked to think that we could do it here without one of our own jumping on our back over it.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 08:52 PM (xVKXy)
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"No, it's not a universal depiction of politicians."
Did I say "universal depiction" or "recognized universally as a depiction"?
"Are you honestly dense enough to think you can separate Obama's race from his political position anyway?"
"Political position"? Do you mean station or policy? Policy: I can separate the two, I hate his political position(s). Station: You have a point. And so do I.
Did I say "universal depiction" or "recognized universally as a depiction"?
"Are you honestly dense enough to think you can separate Obama's race from his political position anyway?"
"Political position"? Do you mean station or policy? Policy: I can separate the two, I hate his political position(s). Station: You have a point. And so do I.
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:53 PM (GvgvT)
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I liked to think that we could do it here without one of our own jumping on our back over it.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 08:52 PM (xVKXy)
Depends on what you mean by it.
Ace has a pretty tight policy on the racial stuff in comments.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 08:52 PM (xVKXy)
Depends on what you mean by it.
Ace has a pretty tight policy on the racial stuff in comments.
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Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 08:53 PM (GvgvT)
Bully for you and your ability to separate the two. Most people don't or chose not to simply because they find comparing blacks to apes and monkeys offensive no matter your intent.
It's like a little kid running around yelling hell and when his parents tell him not to curse he claims he's talking about the biblical Hell, so it's not a curse.
You're engaging in sophistry because you are just jonesing to call a black guy a monkey and they claim it's not what everyone knows it is.
Bully for you and your ability to separate the two. Most people don't or chose not to simply because they find comparing blacks to apes and monkeys offensive no matter your intent.
It's like a little kid running around yelling hell and when his parents tell him not to curse he claims he's talking about the biblical Hell, so it's not a curse.
You're engaging in sophistry because you are just jonesing to call a black guy a monkey and they claim it's not what everyone knows it is.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 09:00 PM (iTt2X)
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Why I am so offended! Time to beg Rev. Wright for forgiveness and to send cards to all those bitter people clinging to their religion and guns.
You people need to grow a pair and cowboy up.
Or go join Meagan McCain you whimps.
What's the difference between Michelle Obama and a gorilla?
About five pounds.
You people need to grow a pair and cowboy up.
Or go join Meagan McCain you whimps.
What's the difference between Michelle Obama and a gorilla?
About five pounds.
Posted by: Thomas Jackson at June 16, 2009 09:01 PM (B8gqF)
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Nigel
We can use your kind in the Democratic party. You'd fit in good in Rev Wright's church.
We can use your kind in the Democratic party. You'd fit in good in Rev Wright's church.
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 09:06 PM (x4c0h)
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Depends on what you mean by it.Ace has a pretty tight policy on the racial stuff in comments.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 08:57 PM (iTt2X)
It = separate Obama's race from his political position (be it policy or position as president.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 16, 2009 08:57 PM (iTt2X)
It = separate Obama's race from his political position (be it policy or position as president.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 09:08 PM (xVKXy)
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Drew, please refer to my comment at "8:37".
And the comment that you seem to have read some of at "8:53".
"jonesing to call a black guy a monkey and they claim it's not what everyone knows it is."
You got me there. Like when I talk to my cousin every weekend, I can barely restrain myself.
And the comment that you seem to have read some of at "8:53".
"jonesing to call a black guy a monkey and they claim it's not what everyone knows it is."
You got me there. Like when I talk to my cousin every weekend, I can barely restrain myself.
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at June 16, 2009 09:10 PM (GvgvT)
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How dare this guy make jokes about a well dressed, articulate and CLEAN guy like Barack who's a credit to his race
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 16, 2009 09:11 PM (93F13)
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Rembre when HOWArd Cosell said LOOK at that monkey RUN about daryl green. He Was a Democrat.
Posted by: polyspurwing at June 16, 2009 09:12 PM (G4vFF)
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I don't understand you people. The libtards have done the following:
*an unrepentent klansman in lauded as the conscious of the senate
*jane hamescher puts Michael Steele in blackface and is invited to party at the white house
*several cartoonists draw Condaleeza Rice as a buck-tooth Aunt Jemima
*the prez of NOW wishes that Clarence Thomas gets high blood pressure and dies
*they hung Palin in effigy, and Obots wore "Palin is a cxnt" t-shirts at rallies
*rev Wright said "them Jews won't let Obama talk to me"
*Perez Lavanderia calls Prejean a b@itch and a cxnt
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. For all of this racist, gutter behavior, these people are lauded by their fellow libtards and get a standing ovation for their courage and audacity.
Two unknowns send a stupid joke and your knee jerk reaction is to note how conservatives bring this on themselves. Stop the handwringing. Maybe if y'all stopped believing that republicans are racists, then you could convince others of that fact. How about this? The next time someone calls you a racist, how about you get angry at them and tell them to STFU? My favorite response to libtards is "I refuse to be lectured on morality by gutter rats."
Just for the record, the Sharpton crowd thinks ALL whites are racists (basically any nonblack). The libtards just give them stuff.
*an unrepentent klansman in lauded as the conscious of the senate
*jane hamescher puts Michael Steele in blackface and is invited to party at the white house
*several cartoonists draw Condaleeza Rice as a buck-tooth Aunt Jemima
*the prez of NOW wishes that Clarence Thomas gets high blood pressure and dies
*they hung Palin in effigy, and Obots wore "Palin is a cxnt" t-shirts at rallies
*rev Wright said "them Jews won't let Obama talk to me"
*Perez Lavanderia calls Prejean a b@itch and a cxnt
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. For all of this racist, gutter behavior, these people are lauded by their fellow libtards and get a standing ovation for their courage and audacity.
Two unknowns send a stupid joke and your knee jerk reaction is to note how conservatives bring this on themselves. Stop the handwringing. Maybe if y'all stopped believing that republicans are racists, then you could convince others of that fact. How about this? The next time someone calls you a racist, how about you get angry at them and tell them to STFU? My favorite response to libtards is "I refuse to be lectured on morality by gutter rats."
Just for the record, the Sharpton crowd thinks ALL whites are racists (basically any nonblack). The libtards just give them stuff.
Posted by: BlackRedneck at June 16, 2009 09:16 PM (Mh30H)
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I seem to recall the NAACP blaming Bush for not passing hate crime laws and accusing him of a racist murder, but heavens to Betsy should we joke about Obama and his glamorous significant other. We have to be quiet about Rev Wright according to party leader McCain and we hear the same refrain now. Why? When the other side acts like responsible individuals and show some respect I will respond. Till then I take great pleasure in acting just the way they do, actually I haven't made a giant paper mache doll nor attempted to firebomb a democrat meeting nor rioted when their leaders speak. But one lives in hopes that someday Hamas will acquire a small nuclear tactical warhead and deposit it in the midst of a Joy Behar laugh fest while the president yukking it up.
Posted by: Thomas Jackson at June 16, 2009 09:32 PM (B8gqF)
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Posted by: royalmewigs at June 16, 2009 09:43 PM (WGEuO)
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I loathe white people, but good god I love white cock. I'm not sure what I'm doing at a nearly conservative blog, seeing as how I'm a race hustling faggot ethnic who supports illegal immigration, but...oh, right, white people support the GOP, and I go where white cock goes.
I'm sort of the white man's psycho ex girlfriend, simultaneously hating the white man and craving his cock, following him everywhere he goes screaming iloveyouihateyouiloveyouihateyou. I can't compete with the white man, so naturally I support race quotas.
Ace, can you ban me? I'm a hardline leukophobic and really don't belong at this site, it couldn't be more obvious I'm a "sleeper cell" sent here by Axelrod to keep an eye on you honkies. Well, gotta go, Jorge and Gilberto are coming over to play "pole vault" - you don't want to know.
I'm sort of the white man's psycho ex girlfriend, simultaneously hating the white man and craving his cock, following him everywhere he goes screaming iloveyouihateyouiloveyouihateyou. I can't compete with the white man, so naturally I support race quotas.
Ace, can you ban me? I'm a hardline leukophobic and really don't belong at this site, it couldn't be more obvious I'm a "sleeper cell" sent here by Axelrod to keep an eye on you honkies. Well, gotta go, Jorge and Gilberto are coming over to play "pole vault" - you don't want to know.
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 09:45 PM (qSWxU)
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This place kills me.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2009 09:53 PM (xVKXy)
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That's really rude. Why are you hijacking my nick?
This website is kind of a circle jerk.
I think I'll go over to Daily Kos to be with my own kind and hate on some Jews.
This website is kind of a circle jerk.
I think I'll go over to Daily Kos to be with my own kind and hate on some Jews.
Posted by: Moloch at June 16, 2009 10:03 PM (x4c0h)
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Yes, these dumbasses should be fired.
No, I do not excuse the MSM, nor do I accept their perfectionist double-standard. They DON'T cover Dem malfeasance the way they do Rep dumbassery. If they did, the stereotype would have to break in favor of the "some people are just dumbasses" observation.
You know who doesn't need any help? The damned MSM, that's who doesn't need any help.
Accepting the meme that Republicans have to be perfect is more of the problem than a couple of dumbasses.
No, I do not excuse the MSM, nor do I accept their perfectionist double-standard. They DON'T cover Dem malfeasance the way they do Rep dumbassery. If they did, the stereotype would have to break in favor of the "some people are just dumbasses" observation.
You know who doesn't need any help? The damned MSM, that's who doesn't need any help.
Accepting the meme that Republicans have to be perfect is more of the problem than a couple of dumbasses.
Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at June 17, 2009 12:08 AM (or0jG)
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the fuck up morons. This political correctness/ skating on thin ice bullshit has actually inhibited racial/political interaction. It may be difficult, maybe impossible, to have honest discourse while adhering to this PC nonsense. This old person is going to present one of many areas - comedy. Go back to the 1960s, 70s and maybe in the 80. Listen to early Mel Brooks, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, very early Lenny Bruce, Redd Foxx and many others. Ah! They would have been shunned, humiliated and banned (well, some were banned and arrested) in the current brave new world. Social and political satire made people laugh and think. You might not have agreed with everything said but these words allowed for civil discourse and respect of several views, much more so than with the PC Police, the fake reverends and especially the loony left. In fact, almost everyone united against the far, far let because they knew they were nuts. Hum... is the far left responsible for today's climate, which, in my opinion, wanted to create a divide as wide as an ocean between different groups. There was much more tolerance as opposed to the "you are with us or against us" mentally now. I suspect the loons studied "Rules for Radicals" because the climate of hate and name calling was one of the main blueprints for 'tards to take over. Bright side - let them rant and rave and hope "joe six pack" figures out that they are insane.
Posted by: Chucky Daley at June 17, 2009 12:51 AM (06ZpM)
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Sorry, I meant to say grow the fuck up morons. And the comedy wasn't the demeaning, vicious vitriol or gangster sickness being spewed today
Posted by: Chucky Daley at June 17, 2009 01:02 AM (06ZpM)
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I think you're way more likely to hear Democrats targetted for spouting sexist stuff than using racist language. And the MSM does actually call them on it. Remember both Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton's treatment in the recent primaries and election? And people on both sides of the aisle were pissed. And the MSM did comment on it. Hell, Saturday Night Live was doing skits about it.
Posted by: Laura at June 17, 2009 02:05 AM (kdm3W)
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Two words "Gilded Sasquatch" - people who live in glass houses and all that...
For the record, I thought the Gilded Sasquatch comment was hysterical
Posted by: BuckNutty at June 16, 2009 04:04 PM (ZY6M2)
Nah. sasquatch is used as an insult to someone's hairiness and/or overly creature-like physical characteristics.
Monkey/ape/whatever has been used as a racist term to describe black people, at least in the past, so totally different.
There's no way to interpret Rusty DePass' "joke" as anything but racist. Guy's a douchebag (and not even funny either)
Two words "Gilded Sasquatch" - people who live in glass houses and all that...
For the record, I thought the Gilded Sasquatch comment was hysterical
Posted by: BuckNutty at June 16, 2009 04:04 PM (ZY6M2)
Nah. sasquatch is used as an insult to someone's hairiness and/or overly creature-like physical characteristics.
Monkey/ape/whatever has been used as a racist term to describe black people, at least in the past, so totally different.
There's no way to interpret Rusty DePass' "joke" as anything but racist. Guy's a douchebag (and not even funny either)
Posted by: mandible claw at June 17, 2009 05:20 AM (QKrrS)
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Did Charles Johnson write this post? WTF?
The first "joke" was just stupid. But the second joke (actually, a forwarded email) was pretty funny, in my opinion.
Do you honestlybelieve that Congressman Bobby Rush (a former Black Panther) and Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee (just to name two black elected officials off the top of my head) don't have black stafferswho regularly makejokes about white peopleand Asians, or forward the occasional Black Nationalist email? Of course they (almost certainly) do. But that wouldn't be considered "newsworthy" to the MSM.
Hell, the fact that the (black) Attorney General of the United States (who was appointed by a black President who attended a racist and anti-Semitic black church for 20 years) recently overruled career lawyers and dismissedlegal actionagainst armed Black Panther thugs who harassed white voters with racial slurs at a Pennsylvania polling place last November isn't considered "newsworthy" to the MSM either.
We need to stop this counter-productive in-fighting over bad jokes and politically-incorrect emails forwarded by people no one has ever heard of, and focus on the fact that the current administration is, you know, runningour Constitution through a fucking shredder.
The first "joke" was just stupid. But the second joke (actually, a forwarded email) was pretty funny, in my opinion.
Do you honestlybelieve that Congressman Bobby Rush (a former Black Panther) and Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee (just to name two black elected officials off the top of my head) don't have black stafferswho regularly makejokes about white peopleand Asians, or forward the occasional Black Nationalist email? Of course they (almost certainly) do. But that wouldn't be considered "newsworthy" to the MSM.
Hell, the fact that the (black) Attorney General of the United States (who was appointed by a black President who attended a racist and anti-Semitic black church for 20 years) recently overruled career lawyers and dismissedlegal actionagainst armed Black Panther thugs who harassed white voters with racial slurs at a Pennsylvania polling place last November isn't considered "newsworthy" to the MSM either.
We need to stop this counter-productive in-fighting over bad jokes and politically-incorrect emails forwarded by people no one has ever heard of, and focus on the fact that the current administration is, you know, runningour Constitution through a fucking shredder.
Posted by: Andy at June 17, 2009 07:47 AM (vQdwt)
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Ok, racist jokes are a sad reality of life -- probably never going to get rid of them. Just like ethnic jokes, gay jokes, joking about women -- never going to go away, might as well just acknowledge that they exist, that they probably won't go away, and it's incredibly crass poor manners to be saying them in public. Give the rude ass people who think it's somehow okto act like gutter snipes and not be polite a major slap down for just that -- being uncivil, entitlementcreeps.
What I findunacceptable about this is that two people working for a political party, knowing full well that it was a stupid thing to do and just rude as freaking hell, went ahead and pulled this shit. For being rude,stupid mofos they should be censured and perhaps fired. And then anytime the party of the opposition pulls this sort of shit, they should get called on the carpet too, in exactly the same manner: like the oreo incident with Michael Steele, the allusion to a very lame ass "beaner" joke by our resident, the comments concerning "those Joos" or calling Italians "garlic noses", and just the presence of Sen. Robert Byrd. And that's just the tip of the iceberg -- the misogyny is pretty rife too.
What I findunacceptable about this is that two people working for a political party, knowing full well that it was a stupid thing to do and just rude as freaking hell, went ahead and pulled this shit. For being rude,stupid mofos they should be censured and perhaps fired. And then anytime the party of the opposition pulls this sort of shit, they should get called on the carpet too, in exactly the same manner: like the oreo incident with Michael Steele, the allusion to a very lame ass "beaner" joke by our resident, the comments concerning "those Joos" or calling Italians "garlic noses", and just the presence of Sen. Robert Byrd. And that's just the tip of the iceberg -- the misogyny is pretty rife too.
Posted by: unknown jane at June 17, 2009 09:03 AM (EpmMs)
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I know I'm in the minority here, but I just don't see "racist" jokes as some sort of horrific social crime. They are, after all, JOKES.
There is a difference between someone saying something politically-incorrect in jest about a black politician, and, say, a neo-Nazi rally where people are seriously calling for the reinstatement of slavery and referring to blacks as sub-human animals.
One is a joke, the other is serious. That's the difference. Get it?
And again, if you don't think that blacks make fun of whites and Asians on a semi-regular basis, you don't know what the hell you are talking about. The difference is that no one seems to give a shit about "racist" jokes against whites and Asians made by blacks, whereas everyone goes all "Two Minutes Hate" against any white person who says anything politically-incorrect about blacks.
Why this double-standard? It's largely because of the MSM. They have conditioned the sheeple to react one way in one scenario, while reacting in a completely different way in another scenario. The MSM is the problem. Let's fight the real enemy, not each other.
There is a difference between someone saying something politically-incorrect in jest about a black politician, and, say, a neo-Nazi rally where people are seriously calling for the reinstatement of slavery and referring to blacks as sub-human animals.
One is a joke, the other is serious. That's the difference. Get it?
And again, if you don't think that blacks make fun of whites and Asians on a semi-regular basis, you don't know what the hell you are talking about. The difference is that no one seems to give a shit about "racist" jokes against whites and Asians made by blacks, whereas everyone goes all "Two Minutes Hate" against any white person who says anything politically-incorrect about blacks.
Why this double-standard? It's largely because of the MSM. They have conditioned the sheeple to react one way in one scenario, while reacting in a completely different way in another scenario. The MSM is the problem. Let's fight the real enemy, not each other.
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Posted by: Knemon at June 17, 2009 10:02 AM (vavy5)
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I don't get why the cartoon was ' racist'?
Doesn't 'racist' mean 'hateful'? This joke references race, but it doesn't seem hateful to me, am I wrong?
The Michelle Obama was in bad taste, but if the Dems are so very pro-evolution, anti-creation- AND if Michelle has chosen to 'put herself out there, on the national stage( just like the Palins). The according to the lefty line of thinking doesn't Michelle then DESERVE the joke??
The left assures us that Sarah, Bristol, and Willow Palin all deserve the 'slut, and knocked up' jokes because the right espouses abstinence and morality, and because they 'put themselves out there'.
I don't get the difference.
Does the mere fact of being black allow for no humor at all? If I were the target of either of these 'racist' jokes, I would not be offended. If the cartoon were a group of black folks on a white background with only eyes showin' I might not laugh my ass off, but I wouldn't be OFFENDED.
I didn't find the Sarah is 'slutty looking' funny- but I wasn't OFFENDED.
Doesn't 'racist' mean 'hateful'? This joke references race, but it doesn't seem hateful to me, am I wrong?
The Michelle Obama was in bad taste, but if the Dems are so very pro-evolution, anti-creation- AND if Michelle has chosen to 'put herself out there, on the national stage( just like the Palins). The according to the lefty line of thinking doesn't Michelle then DESERVE the joke??
The left assures us that Sarah, Bristol, and Willow Palin all deserve the 'slut, and knocked up' jokes because the right espouses abstinence and morality, and because they 'put themselves out there'.
I don't get the difference.
Does the mere fact of being black allow for no humor at all? If I were the target of either of these 'racist' jokes, I would not be offended. If the cartoon were a group of black folks on a white background with only eyes showin' I might not laugh my ass off, but I wouldn't be OFFENDED.
I didn't find the Sarah is 'slutty looking' funny- but I wasn't OFFENDED.
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