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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | An Inconvenient Coldening: Record-Breaking 12-Month Global Temperature Plunge Wipes Out Nearly All of "Dangerous, Permanent" Rise in Temperatures over the Last CenturyOver the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on. No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.The article goes on to note that cold is more damaging, both to animals and human prosperity and happiness (as if that last one matters, huh?), than warmth. Well, fuckin' duh, huh? Stupid goddamned motherfuckers. I can't wait to hear the spin. And to hear, inevitably, that the models were "slightly off" and it turns out excesss CO2 cause Ice Ages, not hothouses. Different models, different theories... but the conclusion is always the same: Human industry and even existence itself is a scourge that must be eliminated before we all melt to death/freeze to death/suffer in dangerously-lukewarm seasonal "sweater weather" to death. Icy Skull pic borrowed from TShirtStudio.com. Tachyonshuggy: If only there was some heat source that you could trace this to. . . It would have to be massive, though. On the order of our own sun.Or at least approximately the size of Rhode Island. Everything's approximately the size of Rhode Island. For very large values of "approxmately." Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
yep. The response will eventually be about climate change to cooling rather than warming which we're still causing and so we have to take these steps which are identical and just happen to coincide with a socialist/leftist fantasy of worldwide takeover.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 27, 2008 07:43 PM (3+3kx) 2
Do what I do:
Step 1: Adopt as many dogs as you can. Step 2: Feed them the richest diet possible (Dinty Moore is a good base, but feel free to add in various spices, etc.) I'm going to open a Methane Credits Distribution Network. For all those who want to save the Earth, but are afraid to do what is necessary. Posted by: Dogstar at February 27, 2008 07:44 PM (FgxdU) 3
Thanks for the Nobel, suckers.
Posted by: Al Gore at February 27, 2008 07:47 PM (Tk5HT) 4
Take it easyman , Gaia's just menopausal .
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 27, 2008 07:48 PM (Bivii) 5
Someone needs to take a copy to McVain HQ and ask him if he's really willing to create policy around the Gorebal Warming fraud, a policy that will open up such a potential for abuse and corruption it will make Enron look kosher.
Posted by: adamthemad at February 27, 2008 07:49 PM (kIjlp) 6
See this is how I know God has a sense of humor. It's the "Gore must be in town" phenomena on a global scale.
Posted by: Gabriel at February 27, 2008 07:50 PM (1Ug6U) 7
I'm going to open a Methane Credits Distribution Network. For all those who want to save the Earth, but are afraid to do what is necessary.
My Doberman does her part. Seems like hardly an hour goes by where she doesn't sit down and let one reverberate off the hardwood floor. Oh- and if I'm to participate, I want my credits paid in Summit Extra Pale Ale. Increases my methane production by 400%. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2008 07:51 PM (v8vVW) 8
If only there was some heat source that you could trace this to. . .
It would have to be massive, though. On the order of our own sun. Posted by: tachyonshuggy at February 27, 2008 07:52 PM (IVUjc) 9
The fuck is wrong with you Ace? You're committing treason by going against Al Bore's word!
Posted by: Kaitian at February 27, 2008 07:54 PM (S5mm4) 10
Oh, I'm sure they'll find a way to explain that this year was cold because of El Nino or some shit, but all those times it was warmer than usual due to cyclic changes? Dirty, filthy, capitalist CO2.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2008 07:54 PM (v8vVW) 11
So, the eco-hippies simply need to stop referring to global warming, and just whine knowingly about climate change. The concerts and conferences don't need to be cancelled, or anything.
Posted by: tasteslikechicken at February 27, 2008 07:55 PM (cnK8T) 12
I imagine that in the coming years the AGW theories will simply be bent around the facts on the ground until they can justify their bullshit theories with anything. We could be living in a world frozen like a fucking icicle and they will still be telling us AGW is the truth.
Pride is a powerful thing. The AGW warming people will be turned into Baghdad Bob's before its all over. That's a sad, disgracefulthing for a scientist to be. Posted by: Dr. Chopper at February 27, 2008 08:00 PM (xvIpv) 13
They'll simply morph this into "Climate Change". See, the way you're using the filthy SUVs you're causing the Earth to react radically.....we'll destabilize the entire planet!! It's going to be one extreme or the other...super cold then super hot!
Posted by: JavaJoe at February 27, 2008 08:06 PM (Am6n/) 14
My Doberman does her part. Seems like hardly an hour goes by where she doesn't sit down and let one reverberate off the hardwood floor. I think it's hilarious when they scare themselves. Posted by: Rinnie at February 27, 2008 08:09 PM (JgJ2h) 15
Those carbon offsets worked! Even better than we hoped!
We saved the world! We saved the world!!! Now put us in charge of everything. Posted by: leftwing twit at February 27, 2008 08:13 PM (8HSPd) 16
Gore has always been at war with the coming Ice Age!
Posted by: Big Brother at February 27, 2008 08:16 PM (70HCY) 17
The more I see these graphs of long-term climate change, the more "climate" begins to look like "weather".
Posted by: lmg at February 27, 2008 08:23 PM (cHcxA) 18
Who says God doesn't have a sense of humor, huh? I mean, this is funny shit. Global Warming hysteria to Global Cooling hysteria in one year. If I were God I'd screw with the therma-stat myself. Posted by: Electric Ferret at February 27, 2008 08:25 PM (OhXwN) 19
Everybody remembers Eisenhowers warning about the, military-industrial complex, shoot, it has become the siren call of some. Few if any recall and it is never repeated the second of the two specific warning he made in that very same speech: The prospect of domination of the nations scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. (emphasis added) The scientific-technological elite, Eisenhower truly was prescient. Read the speech, it could have been written today. DKK Posted by: LifeTrek at February 27, 2008 08:27 PM (H+/DW) 20
It's the enda' the world I tellya, the end a' the world.
Nah, it's jest a itty bitty ice age we're enterin', kids. So throw a couple cord a' hobos in the farplace and warm yer backsides g-o-o-o-d. Posted by: ricpic at February 27, 2008 08:28 PM (o03rx) 21
It's because I turned down the thermostat in one of my houses by a degree. Single-handedly reduced carbon emissions by 37%.
Posted by: Al Gore at February 27, 2008 08:38 PM (6GK9U) 22
This is why there has been a concerted effort to switch the term from "global warming" to "climate change." No matter what happens, it's our fault.
Posted by: brak at February 27, 2008 08:39 PM (oR96t) 23
there needs to be credential consequences for the AGW grant whores who've been pushing this shit
Posted by: Frank G at February 27, 2008 08:44 PM (Ydps9) 24
Screw climate change , make it CLIMATE INJUSTICE, hire some lawyers and sue every corporation on Earth on Gaia's behalf ....... we have a victim here lawyers , get on it already !
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 27, 2008 08:49 PM (Bivii) 25
Remember this little money grubbing twit?
http://www.weather.com/blog/weather/8_11392.html Don't worry, the white-toothed faggot weatherdouches will be back on the treadmill crying about how the US is killing everybody. Fuck them. Ah, googly eyed Natalie Allen lecturing me on global changing of the climate. How quaint. Posted by: E. Buzz Miller at February 27, 2008 08:53 PM (vFeQi) 26
I also like how the global warming lobby has made "deniers" their catch phrase. Look at those comments on the site, we're all deniers! Cast the heretics out!
Posted by: brak at February 27, 2008 08:54 PM (oR96t) 27
Okay, but I'm still gonna do yoga to offset my excessive use of Rave hairspray.
Posted by: Joanie at February 27, 2008 08:55 PM (Yyy1m) 28
Icy Skull..........genius.
Posted by: Ann at February 27, 2008 09:01 PM (qxm5a) 29
Does this mean the ski seasons are gonna be longer? 'Cause that'd be totally awesome.
Posted by: atheistica at February 27, 2008 09:04 PM (jvG2F) 30
Oh my God! Global Cooling killed Captain America! You bastards!!
Posted by: VRWC Agent at February 27, 2008 09:05 PM (Z3AmO) 31
This is no surprise to me. None whatsoever. Weather changes every minute. Climate is statistical weather. The climate warms then cools. The climate cools then warms. Rinse repeat. Believe me, warm is better.
Posted by: Hank Rearden at February 27, 2008 09:10 PM (eXk2G) 32
Wait, there is an explanation for this. Every 100 or so years, Helen Thomas opens her legs wide so that a team of eunuchs can clean her snootch. These are specially selected blind eunuchs whose sense of smell and revulsion has been surgically removed.
That explains the current cold climate. Posted by: Tushar D at February 27, 2008 09:17 PM (DWXGz) 33
God, what a bunch of bedwetting dipshits.
Posted by: Chicken Little at February 27, 2008 09:21 PM (86d60) 34
God dammit!
The schadenfreud is offset by the fact that, hey, it's fucking cold! I wanted to believe... drinking Margheritas on the beach in January, watching the little bikinis stroll by... My balls turned blue this morning and fell off. Damn you hippies! Damn you and your electric cars! Posted by: Entropy at February 27, 2008 09:21 PM (HgAV0) 35
The Earth's climate varies over time? Say it ain't so!
Posted by: Slowking Man at February 27, 2008 09:25 PM (M5wXk) 36
I wanted to believe... drinking Margheritas on the beach in January, watching the little bikinis stroll by...
Hah. It was 82 degrees here today and cloudless. I'm sunburned all over. Posted by: Gabriel at February 27, 2008 09:29 PM (1Ug6U) Posted by: doubleplusundead at February 27, 2008 09:32 PM (68v+0) 38
Just look at the comments at the article to see some of the idiocy if this info gets out. But but, the info comes from known "deniers". But, it's only one year worth of info. But we're still above the norm in the US (by 0.035 C).
Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2008 09:34 PM (pKBEW) 39
The polar bears could not be reached for comment -- they were all huddling in expedient ice caves while throwing their endless supply of idiot environmentalists on the fire so they wouldn't freeze to death.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 27, 2008 09:37 PM (5hXBq) 40
As long as this Global Cooling makes the Texas summer 10 degrees cooler, then it will get no flack from me.
Call Newsweek! Seems the seventies are back, baby! Posted by: Stormy70 at February 27, 2008 09:37 PM (Y+o71) 41
Climate changes? Huh.
Posted by: The Assyrian Empire at February 27, 2008 09:37 PM (SXBHu) 42
No matter what happens, it's our fault.
Sounds like my last girlfriend. Or what my last girlfriend would have said if she had existed..... Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 27, 2008 09:45 PM (Ds4I5) 43
It was 82 degrees here today and cloudless. I'm sunburned all over.
Posted by: Gabrielat February 27, 2008 09:29 PM I wish it was like that here. Here, people have been bitching about the weather for weeks: "When's spring going to get her, Calix?" "Could you cut me another truckload of firewood sometime, Calix?" "What the fuck have you done to the weather this time, Calix?" "Give me a ride to work, Calix, I don't like driving in the snow." "Have you been propitiating the ancient and powerful Snow Goons again, Calix?" "Please stop propitiating the ancient and powerful Snow Goons, Calix." "Calix, your Snow-Goon minions are driving icicles under my fingernails..." I swear, it never ends. Posted by: Calix at February 27, 2008 09:47 PM (8d3U/) 44
"Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history."
And Baghdad, by God, has some recorded history behind it. Posted by: profligatewaste at February 27, 2008 09:48 PM (SSTpc) 45
Recorded history to the believers is about four years, or since Bush got re-elected.
Why is it that they didn't really scream as loud when Billy was in the WH? Hadn't analyzed all that data yet? Went to se a show at the planetarium the other day, How to Build a Planet. Guess what, no mention at all of GW. None. Guess what the program said caused the temperature changes of the Earth? It was amazing, but how close the Earth is to the sun. I would never have believed it, I thought it was the plastic bags at Krogers. Posted by: E. Buzz Miller at February 27, 2008 09:59 PM (vFeQi) 46
Ace:
Stupid goddamned motherfuckers. I can't wait to hear the spin. This comment strikes to the heart of this problem. We have a movement which will knowingly sacrifice any reason, (Stupid goddamned motherfuckers) for their own political gain ( Spin, from Stupid goddamned motherfuckers) Actually Ace you should have heaped it on a bit more, I ran out of your quotes to further categorize this anomaly Posted by: NortonPete at February 27, 2008 09:59 PM (fVuwW) 47
Tushar D, you bastard, do you have any idea how hard it is to clean vomit from a keyboard?
Posted by: ticticboom at February 27, 2008 10:03 PM (VWyYr) 48
Don't fret. In 5 months it will be July 27th, there will have been a week of 85+ degree temps, and the news will be full of "sweltering" reporters asking if it has to do with Global Warming.
Posted by: Dr. Remulak at February 27, 2008 10:10 PM (A6ntC) Posted by: A Sarcastic Ankylosaurus at February 27, 2008 10:13 PM (SXBHu) 50
Tushar D:
Thanks for forcing me to go to the bathroom for a little "alone time." Having, uh, "drained" my resources, my wife will be sorely disappointed tonight (for reasons other than the usual). She'll be okay with it. She knows I'm powerless over Helen and her snootch. Posted by: Crimso at February 27, 2008 10:24 PM (8qhO6) 51
The MSM has thus far given us two (2) global warming scares and two (2) impending ice age predictions as far as I know. All four are IMHO the result of children playing with statistical tools that should be resevered for adults. You call it weather, I call it noise, and looking too closely for trends in the noise is always a recipie for making an ass of yourself.
Posted by: John Galt at February 27, 2008 10:33 PM (F5RrO) 52
Our planet already is in an Ice Age, we are just in an interglacial warm period. These icy times really go back only to about 3 million years ago. This present situation is very unusual for the Earth. Usually the Earth is much warmer. Warmer than the Medieval Warm Period. We may be in an Ice Age death spiral where, in some year, we pass some unknown critical value and the Earth does not warm up, the glaciers do not retreat, they keep going until there is nowhere else to go.
Far fetched? It has happened before. In a few centuries we may have to install huge mirrors in space to increase the heat flux to the Earth. Posted by: eman at February 27, 2008 10:34 PM (Mnuc8) 53
Entropy,
That was some funny shit you wrote earlier about the beach and bikini's. I'm still laughing my ass off! Posted by: CDR M at February 27, 2008 10:36 PM (TJoU6) 54
Gores latest book THE ATTACK ON REASON shows this twit is the one who is unreasonible so his book should show him on the front cover and reading UNREASONIBLE IDIOT
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 27, 2008 10:36 PM (Suq7y) 55
I would like to point out that the Global Warminating priesthood has always been quite proud of their various climate models.....they enjoy feeding the alarming numbers to a more than willing press. Any bets on how many of these pophisticated models predicted this?
Posted by: Steve at February 27, 2008 10:37 PM (7eAh8) 56
You know, we need a flaming skull instead of an icy skull, becuase... how the hell else are we going to keep warm? HUH?
GOSH DARN IT!!! Posted by: sithson at February 27, 2008 10:37 PM (lIsCq) 57
See this is how I know God has a sense of humor. It's the "Gore must be in town" phenomena on a global scale.
That's the first thing that leapt to my mind too. I think it was God's response to the Nobel prize. "What, me sending a perpetual blizzard to follow him everywhere he goes wasn't enough of a clue? You're gonna give him a freaking NOBEL for his shit? Alright. That does it. No more Mr. Nice Deity. You're all too stupid for anything less than an Ice Age now." Qwinn Posted by: Qwinn at February 27, 2008 10:46 PM (MN787) 58
But, but.... scientific conscensus!!
Posted by: Skynet at February 27, 2008 10:53 PM (oLULt) 59
It's easy enough to follow what the eco-hippies are going to say - they all hang out at realclimate.org and act smug. Their official line on this story is that the earth is stil dangerously warming and their models predicted it would get colder but it's all stil the fault of capitalism. (I'm not even paraphrasing much - go see for yourself).
Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2008 11:28 PM (pg/HS) 60
Dogstar LOL we have 2 dobermanns. The Dinty Moore would pretty much bring downthe house.
That Iams dry food in the green bag has quite the effect too. Posted by: funky chicken at February 27, 2008 11:48 PM (I+jPP) 61
And yeah, the heat just kicked on here, and it's predicted to be well below freezing tonight.
In Montgomery, AL. I want my global warming dammit. Posted by: funky chicken at February 27, 2008 11:50 PM (I+jPP) 62
Just look at the comments at the article to see some of the idiocy if this info gets out. But but, the info comes from known "deniers". But, it's only one year worth of info. But we're still above the norm in the US (by 0.035 C).
Posted by: bonhomme at February 27, 2008 09:34 PM (pKBEW) Jeez, getting to be your very own Michael Crichton storybook idiot. Posted by: funky chicken at February 27, 2008 11:54 PM (I+jPP) 63
I just turned the heat on here in Palm Beach. Its gotta be in the low 60's outside and plunging fast. Feels like it'll be in the low 50's by morning.
The good news is that my Florida real estate will eventually be worth millions as the glaciers engulf the north. Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 28, 2008 12:02 AM (5hXBq) 64
Everything's approximately the size of Rhode Island. For very large values of "approxmately" [sic].
Maybe. Maybe not. Posted by: California at February 28, 2008 12:25 AM (ROU8v) 65
It just went from mid-80s here in SW Florida to near freezing tonight. Damn global cooling!
Posted by: Laddy at February 28, 2008 12:54 AM (4ehH+) 66
Global warming.....we hardly knew ye.
Well, the leftists have to go back to the drawing board for another scam crises to try and sink capitalism in general and the US in particular. So what's the next crisis?All of the best ones seem to have already been played: ozone hole (check), global cooling (check), run out of oil by 1997...thanksJimmah(check), eggs (check), meteor impact(check), milleniummeltdown (check), movie popcorn (check), mercury in vaccinations (check), having c-sections (check), not having c-sections...thanksSilky Pony(check), trans fats (check), cell phone brain cancer (check), ethanol bio fuels...screw $4 gas, I'm pissed about $6 milk...assholes (check), pesticide alar on apples (check), DDT ban in Africa...thanks for all the dead kids you pricks (check). Posted by: Rob Roy at February 28, 2008 01:12 AM (VYTKv) 67
Did Al Gore's computer model predict this?
Well, he has a solution. He'll do the same thing he did to the middle age's mini-iceage. What's the soviet term for deleting history that doesn't fit the agenda? Posted by: joeindc44 at February 28, 2008 01:26 AM (KXG07) 68
Nooooooooo!!!!! I own a boat dammit I was looking forward to a much longer boating seas on the Long Island Sound! BTW Ace, you're invited to come along if you can bring some bikini clad talent out for a day's cruise. (snicker)
Seriously though, let's not fall into the same trap of claiming victory on the basis of a single year's decreased temperature. The schadenfreude certainly is enjoyable though. Posted by: Chief Clancy Wiggum at February 28, 2008 01:35 AM (7gCh5) 69
I'm in Rhode Island. It's fucking cold. What does that tell you?
Posted by: Pablo at February 28, 2008 01:52 AM (yTndK) 70
Well, the leftists have to go back to the drawing board for another scam crises to try and sink capitalism in general and the US in particular. So what's the next crisis?All of the best ones seem to have already been played: Universal Health Care. < much better than Global" > Posted by: Loser presidental candidate that hates America at February 28, 2008 01:53 AM (1Rg5g) 71
How could you Morons need any more proof of catastrophic man-made global warming that real-world observations of global cooling? I mean, c'mon, climate change, dude.
Isn't it obvious to you deniers that the climate is changing rapidly and that man is the cause of it like I saw on MTV last night. I mean, shit, dudes. Life. Man. Climate. Fuck. Doooood! Posted by: Andy at February 28, 2008 02:22 AM (eqdpD) 72
So God sees this sticker on the Earth thermostat that says "Do notfuck around with the thermostat. -A. Gore, Nobel Laureate". Well shit, you know what happens next, right?
Just like whenthe old lady says "You really don't need any more Scotch tonight." Suddenly, for some strange reason, I do. Posted by: sherlock at February 28, 2008 02:31 AM (ojW85) 73
I think the "great awakening" should have started many months ago when the CO2 curve could not be made to follow the "model". CO2 levels were increasing AFTER the warming period in question, not before or at the same time. A few climatologists -- very few -- who weren't smoking dead hobos realized in a moment of clairity -- "Hey, this global warming shit is a crock!"
But perhaps something more concrete: the models have been predicting this or that catastrophe, especially increases in hurricane number and intensity, which never turned up. But that didn't stop them ... they were right back at it the next year ... and the next year ... you have to admire the persistence even if the science is a crock. Reminds one of Linus and the Great Pumpkin. This year, our models are really, really sincere and now you'll all be very sorry you didn't revert to living like it was 1200 AD. I was especially amused at the Congressmen flying to Greenland to get a "sense" of global warming. Greenland did not get its name because some stupid Viking couldn't spell "snow". It was green once, ice-covered before that -- kind of runs in cycles like the ice age cycle that has been going on now for millions of years (and won't end, according to one climatologist who may also be full of bullshit, until North America runs into Europe). This act of science piracy must not go unpunished. Every idiot with a PhD (or less) that threw in with this sham science must surrender their degree forthwith -- on penalty of being forced to watch "The View". But, of course, this was never about "science" and only the gullible and stupid fell for it. This was an exercise in backdoor socialism and if this doesn't work they'll try something else. Posted by: PrairieWind at February 28, 2008 03:22 AM (DM0G/) 74
Geek trivia: alt.rhode_island was the first Usenet newsgroup dedicated to a state. Its original purpose was to spot items described as "the size of Rhode Island."
Posted by: S. Weasel at February 28, 2008 06:10 AM (9jA8/) 75
Any bets on how many of these sophisticated models predicted this?
Posted by: Steve Great point, Steve. I hope someone asks at every climate change press conference why their model didn't predict the rapid cooling of 2007. Then I hope they're asked what their models have predicted that did turn out to be true. Posted by: klrtz1 at February 28, 2008 06:11 AM (rwY2X) 76
It's a typical arctic day here in Northeast Ohio. This morning it's a frigid 7 degrees, we just got through a whole shit load of snow fall the past two days, and more is on the way tomorrow. I had to plow a foot of "global warming" off my driveway yesterday. Can someone please take that fucking Nobel Prize (which is a joke anyway) back from Algore, and smack him upside his fat head?
Posted by: sfcmac at February 28, 2008 07:31 AM (j2ckd) 77
They'll simply morph this into "Climate Change"
It's been done. Some hippy-dippy idiot nephew of my hubby's boss was arguing with him about AGW some time ago. Recently hubby pointed out that the entire premise was crumbling, and the dude said he'd look into it and get back to him. So he does a little googling around to his favorite granola-molesting websites and comes back with "global warming CAUSES global cooling." Which is bad. Global cooling is bad, and it's our fault. I don't give a shit, as long as mankind adapts with advanced technology, and the polar bears are exterminated before the pack ice reaches Long Island Sound. Posted by: lauraw at February 28, 2008 08:36 AM (DbybK) 78
Laura,
It would be interestting if someone did a Lexis Nexis searchand countedevery anecdotal news story about global warming that appearedin 2007, such as drowning polar bears or starving plovers. Since we now know that 2007 wasn't warm, all those stories would be bullshit, establishing a figure for how much hot air is behind global warming alarmism. Posted by: George Turner at February 28, 2008 09:52 AM (h4hvT) 79
I thought that the watermelons had a winning strategy with theGreat Industrial WasteCauses Declining Spermcount Crisis. It wasvaguely plausible, with a generally aging population and associateddeclining sperm counts,its hard to prove or disprove and is amenible to statistical manipulation,positively demandsgovernment controls,and hits a guy right in the nuts.
What more could a crypto-commie big stater want? Posted by: toby928 at February 28, 2008 10:45 AM (evdj2) 80
'Someone?'
Posted by: lauraw at February 28, 2008 10:48 AM (QE7YO) 81
Great comment at the linked story, by hokkoda:
500 years ago in their effort to prove the Earth was at the center of the universe, the Church sponsored numerous Rube Goldberg style machines. The only way to prove their Earth-centric beliefs was to build machines that showed the crazy movement of planets as seen from the Earth. Turns out, it was really just a bunch of things moving in circles around THE SUN. Elegant, simple, easy peasey. The people who proposed an alternative to dogma? "Revolutionaries", and they were locked up or excommunicated or both. Flash forward 500 years. Massively complex computer models try to predict what is an elegantly simple natural machine, applying all sorts of rules and machinations to prove man-made climate change. Turns out it's just that pesky sun again. And the people who reject the dogma -- "deniers" -- a link to Nazi Holocaust "deniers", an explicit reference. They're banned from conferences, decried as lunatics or fringe or puppets of Big Oil. Posted by: krakatoa at February 28, 2008 10:50 AM (3Ewoh) 82
toby, the declining sperm count thing doesn't work for enviro-leftists because they're not at all happy with human propagation. Less people = good for Gaia.
Posted by: lauraw at February 28, 2008 10:55 AM (QE7YO) 83
Does this mean I can go back to using more than one square?
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2008 11:08 AM (t+mja) 84
lauraw: "I don't give a shit..."
I love the sound of AoS chicks talking dirty in the morning. It sounds like... victory. Posted by: Dogstar at February 28, 2008 11:17 AM (FgxdU) 85
Problem is the politicians are all on the bandwagon now. The Athenians allowed themselves one politician to banish each year to some foreign borehole. We need a similar practice, or perhaps a prominent meathook, to engenderhonesty and integrity on the part of our public servants.
Posted by: Gary Gulrud at February 28, 2008 12:02 PM (R//Ib) 86
Rhode Island? Shit, my wife's feet are TWICE the size of Rhode Island.
Posted by: fulldroolcup at February 28, 2008 12:03 PM (NEDy9) 87
Hey Dogstar: Do you need help with your dog-methane project? Because I've got a boy-dog over here who doesn't need to be fed rich foods to produce searing plumes of vapor that can dissolve glass.
Just let him out in the woods every now and then and he will gather his own materials. Posted by: lauraw at February 28, 2008 12:19 PM (QE7YO) 88
Cat turds = dog caviar...
Posted by: Dogstar at February 28, 2008 12:30 PM (FgxdU) 89
They seem the claim thatjust a teenie wenie rise in tempeture will cuase world wide cataserpy and distruction when all their doing is lying
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 28, 2008 12:59 PM (4v/PL) 90
Well, they've been planning for this for some time. Haven't you noticed that it's not "global warming" any more? Now it's "climate change". Any change in the climate is man-made, and thus we must never leave our caves.
Posted by: TheMongbat at February 28, 2008 01:10 PM (X5nRP) 91
OMG I need to stop thinking I'm brilliant. No less than 7 other people have made the same deep observation as I did (above). Next time I'll read all the comments before I shoot out a nugget of genius.
Posted by: TheMongbat at February 28, 2008 01:12 PM (X5nRP) 92
"Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases."
So am I understand the earth no longer has a fever? Also does this meanAl will have to make a few changes toAn Inconvenient Truth? Posted by: adk46er at February 28, 2008 03:33 PM (1yuOD) 93
Don't you realize the only way to save ourselves is to sacrifice these alarmists to the climate gods?
Winter is bad enough without having to listen to Albore and his acolytes. Posted by: MarkD at February 28, 2008 04:12 PM (MMy4A) 94
AL GORE and ASSUALT ON REASON yeah AL GORE YOU STUPID MINDLESS BRAYING NINCOMPOOP IM FREZZING MY TAILFEATHERS OFF SQUAWK SQUAWK
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Hmmm. "Dailytech" huh? The article you cite from, you stupid goddamned motherfucker, itself refers to sources reporting the very opposite of what is claimed.
From the NASA website: The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis. 2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the "El Niño of the century". The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum and the equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Niño-La Niña cycle. Hadley: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/hadleycentre/obsdata/ Posted by: ergastularius at February 28, 2008 07:19 PM (fuBmI) 96
Ergie, ergie, ergie. You read, but you do not understand. Hadley center's best estimate anomaly for January 2007 was indeed high: +0.632 C from the norm. What you did not understand is that January 2008 showed their best estimate anomaly to be: +0.037 from the norm. That means the Earth temperature for the month of January 2008 was a whopping 0.037 degrees above the "perfect" norm temperature. Another way to look at it is Hadley's numbers show January 2008 was 0.595 degrees C cooler than January 2007.
Hadley's monthly data. How to read monthly data. Posted by: bonhomme at February 28, 2008 08:56 PM (pKBEW) Posted by: person who appreciates irony at February 29, 2008 11:29 AM (Qydbb) 98
"The article you cite from, you stupid goddamned motherfucker"
Can I be so bold to suggest that in the futureyou refrain from calling people you disagree with names? Once you've called someone a stupid motherfucker its difficult to then have anintelligent exchange of ideas. Posted by: adk46er at February 29, 2008 01:25 PM (1yuOD) 99
Only a "stupid goddamned motherfucker" would look at a temperature anomaly like this and claim global warming is fully denounced.
Posted by: ergastularius at February 29, 2008 05:41 PM (fuBmI) 100
fully
Heh. Posted by: toby928 at February 29, 2008 09:34 PM (evdj2) 101
You need to point out where I wrote thatglobal warming is fully denounced since I don't recall doing so...from the attached link the statement you should be either agreeing ordisagreeing with is:
Whether solar activityis a larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. Posted by: adk46er at March 01, 2008 06:17 PM (1yuOD) 102
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