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Thread below the Gardening Thread: Taxing [KT]
April 15 this year falls on a Saturday. So it might be logical to assume that would push the tax-filing deadline back to Monday the 17th. No, because that's the day that Washington, D.C., will observe Emancipation Day this year. That refers to emancipation from slavery, not taxes . . .Happy Easter Weekend! Or Happy Passover. This is the third year in a row that the tax deadline has been later than the 15th. But, to most people, the 15th is still "Tax Day". Hope you have something better to do today than your taxes. Or someone else's taxes.
Via Maggie's Farm, why make it so difficult to Render unto Caesar? Even economists can't do their own taxes. "I owe about a year's salary". Heh.
Some guides have expressed the opinion that since the verb rack comes from an instrument that stretches people (not in a fun way), this word should be used in settings which are related to strain, torture, and stress. And since wrack comes from a background of nautical destruction, this word should be used to indicate either wreckage (storm-wracked) or destruction (wrack and ruin). . . .Either word kinda works for me in the case of tax preparation. Anybody out there enjoy the experience? Local and state taxing authorities can get creative with taxes, too. Make that "fees" in the case of my local government. And will California's newest transportation taxes really mean pothole relief this time? Electric car owners get a surprise, too. Any creative taxes where you live?
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Emancipation day,how apt.
Posted by: steevy at April 15, 2017 11:13 AM (r/0kC)
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Anecdotally, I have heard many more people complaining about "owing money" than getting their annually expected "refund".
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 15, 2017 11:17 AM (Uxokn)
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I love filling out forms, always have. Yes, I colored inside the lines too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 15, 2017 11:18 AM (EZebt)
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Every year I let H & R Block and Turbo Tax battle it out on line.
The results are never even close to Dollars owed between the two. And it's not consistent from year to year.
One year Turbo Tax gets the best return, the next year it's Block.
And after they sell you on the idea that they're software is the most reliable, they send you a pop up window every 5 screens to try to upsell a Tax defense program.... You know... Just in case.
Just in case their program is crap! And you get audited.
Flat Tax me Bro.....
The results are never even close to Dollars owed between the two. And it's not consistent from year to year.
One year Turbo Tax gets the best return, the next year it's Block.
And after they sell you on the idea that they're software is the most reliable, they send you a pop up window every 5 screens to try to upsell a Tax defense program.... You know... Just in case.
Just in case their program is crap! And you get audited.
Flat Tax me Bro.....
Posted by: Patrick Albanese at April 15, 2017 11:19 AM (BDFQ6)
Posted by: Patrick Albanese at April 15, 2017 11:20 AM (BDFQ6)
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Giraffe has baby.
Horde speechless.
Horde speechless.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:20 AM (YsLaz)
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A Peon in the Dark Ages, was a peasant who owed his Lord Labor for being able to work.
For most, it was ONE DAY A WEEK of labor... so 1/6th of his Labor, was taken by his Lord...
With income taxes, Soc Sec Taxes, State income taxes, and sales taxes... we can be taxed well over HALF of our income, which directly correlates to time... or Labor...
If we do not pay our taxes, we can have our property taken from us, or even jailed....
So, when does taxation make you worse off than a Peasant.... bordering on slavery?
For most, it was ONE DAY A WEEK of labor... so 1/6th of his Labor, was taken by his Lord...
With income taxes, Soc Sec Taxes, State income taxes, and sales taxes... we can be taxed well over HALF of our income, which directly correlates to time... or Labor...
If we do not pay our taxes, we can have our property taken from us, or even jailed....
So, when does taxation make you worse off than a Peasant.... bordering on slavery?
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 11:21 AM (NgKpN)
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I get to think about my taxes all year, yay for me!
"Estimated taxes" or "eff you mother effer for being self-employed and opting out of the system we created for you!"
"Estimated taxes" or "eff you mother effer for being self-employed and opting out of the system we created for you!"
Posted by: shibumi at April 15, 2017 11:21 AM (FkAXz)
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i can understand paying something....but honestly.....the gov't taking huge amounts of something they have nothing to do with.....it's confiscatory....especially with all the other stuff you have to pay for to do business.....licenses, inspection fees...all things made up for the gov't to get a piece of the pie.....it's maddening
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 15, 2017 11:21 AM (0O7c5)
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How about a day that emancipates us from DC? Call it, "Hasta la Bye-bye, Parasites!" Day...
How about a day that emancipates us from DC? Call it, "Hasta la Bye-bye, Parasites!" Day...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 15, 2017 11:21 AM (5ZRXN)
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The tax year should run from November 1 to October 31.
Taxes should be due the Thursday before the first Tuesday (after a Monday) in November.
They should be paid in cash or check (or bank transfer). No withholding.
Preferably, they should be paid in person to the elected representatives for your precinct at whatever level is appropriate. (Though the logistics on that quickly get unmanageable for federal or state taxes.)
THAT is how you reform the tax laws.
Taxes should be due the Thursday before the first Tuesday (after a Monday) in November.
They should be paid in cash or check (or bank transfer). No withholding.
Preferably, they should be paid in person to the elected representatives for your precinct at whatever level is appropriate. (Though the logistics on that quickly get unmanageable for federal or state taxes.)
THAT is how you reform the tax laws.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2017 11:21 AM (T4/mx)
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I was about to leave a comment in the last thread saying, "here I am! Must be time for the thread to die." But before I could get to it, the thread died. I don't have those Willow skills I guess.
Gooood morning, world of Morons! Jesus loves you!
♥
Paying taxes (or at least filing) is mandatory. Voting is not. Require taxes be paid, or at least filed, at the polling place on election day. This will not only encourage folks to better realize taxes and votes are related, it might get a few folks out to vote who otherwise wouldn't. What could go wrong?
OH, no, wait! I know. You get one vote for every dollar you pay in taxes. What could go wrong?
No, no, I've got it... never mind... I lost it...
* heads back to the coffee pot *
Gooood morning, world of Morons! Jesus loves you!
♥
Paying taxes (or at least filing) is mandatory. Voting is not. Require taxes be paid, or at least filed, at the polling place on election day. This will not only encourage folks to better realize taxes and votes are related, it might get a few folks out to vote who otherwise wouldn't. What could go wrong?
OH, no, wait! I know. You get one vote for every dollar you pay in taxes. What could go wrong?
No, no, I've got it... never mind... I lost it...
* heads back to the coffee pot *
Posted by: mindful webworker - taxiing at April 15, 2017 11:21 AM (Gjw1J)
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I would venture to guess that most of the people who actually celebrate Emancipation Day don't pay taxes.
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2017 11:22 AM (sdi6R)
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The paperwork (and computer work) is really nerve-racking to me. How
about you? Anybody been yearning for a flat tax lately? Do you see
other kinds of tax simplification on the horizon
It took me all day to do my taxes this year and that was with a computer program. There is always something that gums up the works.
As for the "flat tax" all the different versions I have seen would be a massive tax increase for most workers. Most people see that 8% flat tax and think it would be a cut. They don't realize that is 8% of their gross with no deductions.
about you? Anybody been yearning for a flat tax lately? Do you see
other kinds of tax simplification on the horizon
It took me all day to do my taxes this year and that was with a computer program. There is always something that gums up the works.
As for the "flat tax" all the different versions I have seen would be a massive tax increase for most workers. Most people see that 8% flat tax and think it would be a cut. They don't realize that is 8% of their gross with no deductions.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 11:22 AM (mpXpK)
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April is an excellent mother. She just guided her calf , who was trying to nurse from in front of her udders between her legs, by quietly moving her front leg in a ballerina lift, to the side of the calf and gently pushed it into better position to her side.
Posted by: Jen at April 15, 2017 11:22 AM (ZgC02)
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6 Giraffe has baby.
Horde speechless.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:20 AM (YsLaz)
Pix, or...
6 Giraffe has baby.
Horde speechless.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:20 AM (YsLaz)
Pix, or...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 15, 2017 11:23 AM (5ZRXN)
Posted by: Giraffe Mom at April 15, 2017 11:23 AM (Ndje9)
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This is the third year in a row that the tax deadline has been later than the 15th.
It's that damned Monday Holiday Law, ruining all our institutions. Again.
It's that damned Monday Holiday Law, ruining all our institutions. Again.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 15, 2017 11:23 AM (H5rtT)
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Giraffe has baby.
Horde speechless.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:20 AM (YsLaz)
You missed the prior thread, evidently.
It got covered. From Dinsey films to furries. And everything in between.
Horde speechless.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:20 AM (YsLaz)
You missed the prior thread, evidently.
It got covered. From Dinsey films to furries. And everything in between.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 11:24 AM (Pz4pT)
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Also... I wish there were boxes we could check to determine the uses of our tax money. Just two would make me happy:
[ X] defense
[ ] welfare
What are the odds that if that happened, there would be much more cash for defense than for social programs?
[ X] defense
[ ] welfare
What are the odds that if that happened, there would be much more cash for defense than for social programs?
Posted by: shibumi at April 15, 2017 11:24 AM (FkAXz)
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PDT said that he wished that he had done taxes first, then healthcare/insurance.
I wonder, though if he didn't just want people to be able to look at one more crap year of Obamatax before he implements his plan.
Also, why is it always represented that the government shutdown "costs" money? Labor costs are the number one expensive line item in any budget. That's why corporations lay people off/ downsize/ fire people: to save money.
If we let the government shutdown happen for say two months, that is a savings of the salries of 3 million people.
That should take care of your tax collection deficit.
I wonder, though if he didn't just want people to be able to look at one more crap year of Obamatax before he implements his plan.
Also, why is it always represented that the government shutdown "costs" money? Labor costs are the number one expensive line item in any budget. That's why corporations lay people off/ downsize/ fire people: to save money.
If we let the government shutdown happen for say two months, that is a savings of the salries of 3 million people.
That should take care of your tax collection deficit.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 15, 2017 11:24 AM (Uxokn)
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I'm for the Fair Tax.
As long as the 16th Amendment is not repealed , the Flat Tax is just the baseline for non-flat taxation.
After four election cycles all of the rent-seekers will have their deals in place with the politicians, who will see the money coming to them from both ends. And the taxpayers will be holding the short end of the stick once again, and our liberties will be sold once again.
As long as the 16th Amendment is not repealed , the Flat Tax is just the baseline for non-flat taxation.
After four election cycles all of the rent-seekers will have their deals in place with the politicians, who will see the money coming to them from both ends. And the taxpayers will be holding the short end of the stick once again, and our liberties will be sold once again.
Posted by: Minuteman at April 15, 2017 11:26 AM (A3b6q)
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Also... I wish there were boxes we could check to determine the uses of our tax money. Just two would make me happy:
[ X] defense
[ ] welfare
What are the odds that if that happened, there would be much more cash for defense than for social programs?
Posted by: shibumi at April 15, 2017 11:24 AM (FkAXz)
Or let's just put a vote on the thing...
Who gets a raise this year:
1. Teachers
2. Military Personnel
3. Civilian Employees
4. Congresscritters
[ X] defense
[ ] welfare
What are the odds that if that happened, there would be much more cash for defense than for social programs?
Posted by: shibumi at April 15, 2017 11:24 AM (FkAXz)
Or let's just put a vote on the thing...
Who gets a raise this year:
1. Teachers
2. Military Personnel
3. Civilian Employees
4. Congresscritters
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 11:27 AM (Pz4pT)
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Speaking of Tax Day...in case you don't think the Post Office has a sense of humor (or at least irony), I bought a sheet of these:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gktt9hv
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gktt9hv
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 11:28 AM (ZO497)
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PDT said that he wished that he had done taxes first, then healthcare/insurance.
Well actually ObamaCare was a tax. The most massive tax in the nations history.
So he did kinda start with a tax first. Which got no where.
PDT said that he wished that he had done taxes first, then healthcare/insurance.
Well actually ObamaCare was a tax. The most massive tax in the nations history.
So he did kinda start with a tax first. Which got no where.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 15, 2017 11:29 AM (HTdUD)
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Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 15, 2017 11:24 AM (Uxokn)
This just pisses me off...
Why can't they do BOTH???? There are thousands of staffers working for Congress... and the Bills go through different committees......
What Congress can't vote on two things in the same week? or Month?
The only limitations they have, are the ones they placed on themselves...
Its crap.
This just pisses me off...
Why can't they do BOTH???? There are thousands of staffers working for Congress... and the Bills go through different committees......
What Congress can't vote on two things in the same week? or Month?
The only limitations they have, are the ones they placed on themselves...
Its crap.
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 11:29 AM (NgKpN)
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I don't want my ratings to plunge. I'd better get pregnant again.
Posted by: April the giraffe at April 15, 2017 11:30 AM (vRcUp)
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Also... I wish there were boxes we could check to determine the uses of our tax money. Just two would make me happy:
[ X] defense
[ ] welfare
What are the odds that if that happened, there would be much more cash for defense than for social programs?
Posted by: shibumi
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You underestimate the influence of the media, and the mindset of the public.
They would go for the benefits. Big time, is my guess.
[ X] defense
[ ] welfare
What are the odds that if that happened, there would be much more cash for defense than for social programs?
Posted by: shibumi
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You underestimate the influence of the media, and the mindset of the public.
They would go for the benefits. Big time, is my guess.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 11:30 AM (ZO497)
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When I'm feeling ornery, I file my family's returns on paper, handwritten. Make those IRS clerks work!
Extra-ornery is NOT rounding to the nearest dollar. Dollars and cents MFers, do you speak it!
Extra-ornery is NOT rounding to the nearest dollar. Dollars and cents MFers, do you speak it!
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2017 11:30 AM (JO9+V)
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Who gets a raise this year:
1. Teachers
2. Military Personnel
3. Civilian Employees
4. Congresscritters
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Yep, that's an easy one too.
1. Teachers
2. Military Personnel
3. Civilian Employees
4. Congresscritters
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Yep, that's an easy one too.
Posted by: shibumi at April 15, 2017 11:31 AM (FkAXz)
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I don't want my ratings to plunge. I'd better get pregnant again.
Posted by: April the giraffe
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Hey, I'm down with that, sister.
Posted by: April the giraffe
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Hey, I'm down with that, sister.
Posted by: Octomom at April 15, 2017 11:31 AM (ZO497)
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Extra-ornery is NOT rounding to the nearest dollar. Dollars and cents MFers, do you speak it!
Posted by: Count de Monet
Oh, yeah. Me, too.
'Every penny matters' is the message I want conveyed with my tax return.
Posted by: Count de Monet
Oh, yeah. Me, too.
'Every penny matters' is the message I want conveyed with my tax return.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 15, 2017 11:32 AM (HTdUD)
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Wracktum.
Posted by: Barry Manilow at April 15, 2017 11:32 AM (vRcUp)
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I'm for the Fair Tax.
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Biggest problem with that is that it would remove a lot of the ability of the congresscritters to pick winners and losers and thereby, ah, encourage contributions. That just doesn't work for the Rynos and the Pelosis.
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Biggest problem with that is that it would remove a lot of the ability of the congresscritters to pick winners and losers and thereby, ah, encourage contributions. That just doesn't work for the Rynos and the Pelosis.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 15, 2017 11:33 AM (QfQ1Q)
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27 I don't want my ratings to plunge. I'd better get pregnant again.
Posted by: April the giraffe at April 15, 2017 11:30 AM (vRcUp)
Heh. I was just about to mention that when I turned it on earlier this morning after someone mentioned that the baby's legs were visible, there were 330,000 viewers. It steadily climbed to 1,200,000 at the time of the birth, and now it's down to 278,000. Everyone's off to seek out the next internet sensation.
Posted by: April the giraffe at April 15, 2017 11:30 AM (vRcUp)
Heh. I was just about to mention that when I turned it on earlier this morning after someone mentioned that the baby's legs were visible, there were 330,000 viewers. It steadily climbed to 1,200,000 at the time of the birth, and now it's down to 278,000. Everyone's off to seek out the next internet sensation.
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2017 11:33 AM (sdi6R)
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You underestimate the influence of the media, and the mindset of the public.
They would go for the benefits. Big time, is my guess.
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I imagine this as something on your tax form. How many members of the free shit army actually pay taxes?
They would go for the benefits. Big time, is my guess.
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I imagine this as something on your tax form. How many members of the free shit army actually pay taxes?
Posted by: shibumi at April 15, 2017 11:33 AM (FkAXz)
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PSA: Sonic has half-priced cheeseburgers on Tax Day, Tuesday the 18th. All Day.
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2017 11:34 AM (JO9+V)
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I imagine this as something on your tax form. How many members of the free shit army actually pay taxes?
Posted by: shibumi
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It would certainly be an interesting experiment.
Posted by: shibumi
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It would certainly be an interesting experiment.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 11:35 AM (ZO497)
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37 PSA: Sonic has half-priced cheeseburgers on Tax Day, Tuesday the 18th. All Day.
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2017 11:34 AM (JO9+V)
That's good to know. There's a Sonic near where I work, and I go there for lunch occasionally.
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2017 11:34 AM (JO9+V)
That's good to know. There's a Sonic near where I work, and I go there for lunch occasionally.
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2017 11:36 AM (sdi6R)
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I want a state law that allows taxpayers to write off city and county tickets against property tax.
That will never happen of course.
That will never happen of course.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:37 AM (ii4h0)
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What Congress can't vote on two things in the same week? or Month?
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Because they are lazy, worthless old ticks on the hide of the Beast?
Yeah I know. But Trump can't do it without them.
Every government employee has a version of a 401k plan called Thrift Savings. It is a retirement savings They have the option of taking a low-interest loan from that plan and then paying it back. Most have over 10k in there. They could use that to pay bills for 2 months.
If I was PDT , I would grease the skids on that TSP loan process and then let the whole thing shut down for 2 months with the exception of medical care (VA, etc.). Lay 'em off. They won't starve. Lay off the courts and prosecutors and law enforcement , unless they have a statute that will run in a case or something similar.
Prove that most of government service is a giant unemployment program for the chronically unemployable.
What Congress can't vote on two things in the same week? or Month?
===
Because they are lazy, worthless old ticks on the hide of the Beast?
Yeah I know. But Trump can't do it without them.
Every government employee has a version of a 401k plan called Thrift Savings. It is a retirement savings They have the option of taking a low-interest loan from that plan and then paying it back. Most have over 10k in there. They could use that to pay bills for 2 months.
If I was PDT , I would grease the skids on that TSP loan process and then let the whole thing shut down for 2 months with the exception of medical care (VA, etc.). Lay 'em off. They won't starve. Lay off the courts and prosecutors and law enforcement , unless they have a statute that will run in a case or something similar.
Prove that most of government service is a giant unemployment program for the chronically unemployable.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 15, 2017 11:38 AM (Uxokn)
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I'm for the Fair Tax.
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Biggest problem with that is that it would remove a lot of the ability of the congresscritters to pick winners and losers and thereby, ah, encourage contributions. That just doesn't work for the Rynos and the Pelosis.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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The problem there is the repeal of the 16th, which would be *necessary*. I don't see that happening. No way.
Which leaves the Flat Tax as the most likely alternative. Vic's caveats above apply.
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Biggest problem with that is that it would remove a lot of the ability of the congresscritters to pick winners and losers and thereby, ah, encourage contributions. That just doesn't work for the Rynos and the Pelosis.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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The problem there is the repeal of the 16th, which would be *necessary*. I don't see that happening. No way.
Which leaves the Flat Tax as the most likely alternative. Vic's caveats above apply.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 11:38 AM (ZO497)
Posted by: John Roberts at April 15, 2017 11:39 AM (ufi/n)
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43; thanks alot ya gutless prick.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 15, 2017 11:40 AM (KP5rU)
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Extra-ornery is NOT rounding to the nearest dollar. Dollars and cents MFers, do you speak it!
Posted by: Count de Monet
a) perfect nick for that comment.
2) Minnesota does not speak "cents" on their tax forms. The ".00" is already filled in on every line.
C) But at withholding time? You bet we're taking every last penny we can from you every other Friday, peasant!
Posted by: Count de Monet
a) perfect nick for that comment.
2) Minnesota does not speak "cents" on their tax forms. The ".00" is already filled in on every line.
C) But at withholding time? You bet we're taking every last penny we can from you every other Friday, peasant!
Posted by: mikeski at April 15, 2017 11:43 AM (ml2c/)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 11:45 AM (vRcUp)
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The thing to realize about no withholding is a large percentage of the tax paying population will not be saving up to pay taxes at the end of the year and will either be on a permanent payment plan year after year, or will have their pay garnished, which is about the same as having a withholding, but at 25%
If you are cool about that, then no problemo.
If you are cool about that, then no problemo.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:45 AM (ii4h0)
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Washington, D.C., will observe Emancipation Day this year.
They're going to emancipate us? Hot, dog!
They're going to emancipate us? Hot, dog!
Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2017 11:46 AM (eeTCA)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:47 AM (0tfLf)
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Fair Tax is RynoTax. Flat Tax would force Congresscritters to vote on a single number. No hiding, no pawning it off on somebody.
Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2017 11:49 AM (HwVbl)
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I don't think changing withholding would have any impact on how people voted for "taxes". The people who vote for all these taxes are not the ones paying them already.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 11:49 AM (mpXpK)
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12:30 A.M. April 16th in Phat Boi country. Guess he decided not to spark one off today, after all.
12:30 A.M. April 16th in Phat Boi country. Guess he decided not to spark one off today, after all.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 15, 2017 11:51 AM (HTdUD)
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The thing to realize about no withholding is a large percentage of the tax paying population will not be saving up to pay taxes at the end of the year and will either be on a permanent payment plan year after year, or will have their pay garnished, which is about the same as having a withholding, but at 25%
If you are cool about that, then no problemo.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:45 AM (ii4h0)
Unfortunately, this is true. Made worse by the fact that we have zero incentive to save money in this current structure because of zero interest rates on saving and a tax penalty on what you do save if it makes any interest at all.
I have several friends in their late fifties who have only a couple of months income saved, they are relying on a govt. pension and SS once they retire.
It boggles my mind.
If you are cool about that, then no problemo.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:45 AM (ii4h0)
Unfortunately, this is true. Made worse by the fact that we have zero incentive to save money in this current structure because of zero interest rates on saving and a tax penalty on what you do save if it makes any interest at all.
I have several friends in their late fifties who have only a couple of months income saved, they are relying on a govt. pension and SS once they retire.
It boggles my mind.
Posted by: Jen at April 15, 2017 11:51 AM (ZgC02)
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BurtTC.
Yeah. I did miss it. Just got up.
Had note from daughter.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:47 AM (0tfLf)
Unacceptable!
Your punishment is to go back and read the whole thread, then report back here how funny each of us was.
Yeah. I did miss it. Just got up.
Had note from daughter.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:47 AM (0tfLf)
Unacceptable!
Your punishment is to go back and read the whole thread, then report back here how funny each of us was.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 11:52 AM (Pz4pT)
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My solution to the aggravation has been to let the accountant handle all the tax stuff, with the guideline that at the end of the tax year, I do not want to end up owing the government much money.
The accountant, of course, doesn't care for this strategy, but it saves me from going into a total rage. Twice I had to write large checks to Uncle Sam and I said, "Never again."
It does cost some money, but the relief from stress and frustration is well worth it. Not to mention that I can spend the time that would be devoted to taxes making money by doing something I enjoy.
The accountant, of course, doesn't care for this strategy, but it saves me from going into a total rage. Twice I had to write large checks to Uncle Sam and I said, "Never again."
It does cost some money, but the relief from stress and frustration is well worth it. Not to mention that I can spend the time that would be devoted to taxes making money by doing something I enjoy.
Posted by: RM at April 15, 2017 11:52 AM (U3LtS)
56
I have several friends in their late fifties who
have only a couple of months income saved, they are relying on a govt.
pension and SS once they retire.
It boggles my mind.
Posted by: Jen at April 15, 2017 11:51 AM (ZgC02)
Granted, I haven't added to my IRA in the last 8 years because I fully expected it to be "adopted" as part of the coming bail out of state, federal and union pensions.
have only a couple of months income saved, they are relying on a govt.
pension and SS once they retire.
It boggles my mind.
Posted by: Jen at April 15, 2017 11:51 AM (ZgC02)
Granted, I haven't added to my IRA in the last 8 years because I fully expected it to be "adopted" as part of the coming bail out of state, federal and union pensions.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:55 AM (ii4h0)
57
Washington, D.C., will observe Emancipation Day this year.
They're going to emancipate us? Hot, dog!
Posted by: t-bird
I was emancipated from my hot dog!
They're going to emancipate us? Hot, dog!
Posted by: t-bird
I was emancipated from my hot dog!
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 15, 2017 11:55 AM (vRcUp)
58
Ok.
Sigh...
But first Mrs Diogenes says I have to do my chores.
But having said that, I am sure the thread measures up to the Horde's typically low Saturday morning standards.
Sigh...
But first Mrs Diogenes says I have to do my chores.
But having said that, I am sure the thread measures up to the Horde's typically low Saturday morning standards.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:56 AM (0tfLf)
59
Called upon for an emergency vet run, so I posted the Gardening Thread early.
Carry on here if you have non-gardening stuff in mind.
See ya in a while.
Carry on here if you have non-gardening stuff in mind.
See ya in a while.
Posted by: KT at April 15, 2017 11:57 AM (qahv/)
60
They're going to emancipate us? Hot, dog!
Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2017 11:46 AM (eeTCA)
Begun agun, the mustard vs ketchup wars have.
Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2017 11:46 AM (eeTCA)
Begun agun, the mustard vs ketchup wars have.
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 15, 2017 11:57 AM (JO9+V)
61
Gardening thread up.
Posted by: HH at April 15, 2017 11:58 AM (DrCtv)
62
I was emancipated from my hot dog!
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner
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Oh, you don't want that? Pass it over here.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner
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Oh, you don't want that? Pass it over here.
Posted by: Chaz Bono at April 15, 2017 11:59 AM (ZO497)
63
Nationwide anti Trump rallies today to demand that he release his tax information.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2017 12:00 PM (IqV8l)
64
will either be on a permanent payment plan year after
year, or will have their pay garnished, which is about the same as
having a withholding, but at 25%
If you are cool about that, then no problemo.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Might force a change to American saving and budgeting. Which is certainly needed.
year, or will have their pay garnished, which is about the same as
having a withholding, but at 25%
If you are cool about that, then no problemo.
Posted by: Kindltot
===
Might force a change to American saving and budgeting. Which is certainly needed.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 15, 2017 12:00 PM (Uxokn)
65
Oh, you don't want that? Pass it over here.
Posted by: Chaz Bono
"It's just a penis. It has no special gifts or use for me...I just want to have all the right parts. I am also tired of tucking the damn thing in all the time."
Posted by: Chaz Bono
"It's just a penis. It has no special gifts or use for me...I just want to have all the right parts. I am also tired of tucking the damn thing in all the time."
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 15, 2017 12:01 PM (vRcUp)
66
12 OH, no, wait! I know. You get one vote for every dollar you pay in taxes. * heads back to the coffee pot *
Posted by: mindful webworker - taxiing at April 15, 2017 1
How about only net payers of taxes get to vote. Poor Fsa wouldn't be able to pull more bucks from our hard working wallets anymore. The whole point of "landowners" handing the franchise. Oh yeah but raaayyyycist. I denounce myself.
Posted by: mindful webworker - taxiing at April 15, 2017 1
How about only net payers of taxes get to vote. Poor Fsa wouldn't be able to pull more bucks from our hard working wallets anymore. The whole point of "landowners" handing the franchise. Oh yeah but raaayyyycist. I denounce myself.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 15, 2017 12:01 PM (hscyr)
67
Speaking of Tax Day...in case you don't think the Post Office has a sense of humor (or at least irony), I bought a sheet of these:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gktt9hv
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 11:28 AM (ZO497)
Viewing that image brings to mind some questions about tricorne hats. What was the rationale behind their design? How did they come to be popular? And were they as commonly worn as depicted in the picture? What is the significance of the symbols seen on some of them? Did they go all floppy when it rained? And why did they fall out of use?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gktt9hv
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 11:28 AM (ZO497)
Viewing that image brings to mind some questions about tricorne hats. What was the rationale behind their design? How did they come to be popular? And were they as commonly worn as depicted in the picture? What is the significance of the symbols seen on some of them? Did they go all floppy when it rained? And why did they fall out of use?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 15, 2017 12:02 PM (0deF2)
Posted by: Bratwurst over hotdogs! at April 15, 2017 12:06 PM (+wjl1)
69
>>>Viewing that image brings to mind some questions about tricorne hats.
I was told there'd be no hatspeech on this blog.
I was told there'd be no hatspeech on this blog.
Posted by: Safety Space Dance at April 15, 2017 12:07 PM (vRcUp)
70
Oh good.
Soros is wasting more money on anti-Trump rallies.
Great plan. They should definitely stick to this.
American's are definitely not reaching maximum protest-fatigue.
Definitely.
Soros is wasting more money on anti-Trump rallies.
Great plan. They should definitely stick to this.
American's are definitely not reaching maximum protest-fatigue.
Definitely.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 15, 2017 12:09 PM (Uxokn)
71
Did they go all floppy when it rained?
It looks like they would channel the water, like a gutter, to spill on one's nose.
It looks like they would channel the water, like a gutter, to spill on one's nose.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 12:10 PM (vRcUp)
72
Nationwide anti Trump rallies today to demand that he release his tax information.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
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I would like to see the returns of the noisemakers.
Also:
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How about only net payers of taxes get to vote. Poor Fsa wouldn't be able to pull more bucks from our hard working wallets anymore. The whole point of "landowners" handing the franchise. Oh yeah but raaayyyycist. I denounce myself.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
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That's a tax plan that I could endorse.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
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I would like to see the returns of the noisemakers.
Also:
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How about only net payers of taxes get to vote. Poor Fsa wouldn't be able to pull more bucks from our hard working wallets anymore. The whole point of "landowners" handing the franchise. Oh yeah but raaayyyycist. I denounce myself.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
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That's a tax plan that I could endorse.
Posted by: Chaz Bono at April 15, 2017 12:10 PM (ZO497)
73
Hotdog vs bratwurst vs kielbasa.
Discuss.
Discuss.
Posted by: weekend grill master at April 15, 2017 12:11 PM (+wjl1)
74
April 15th is too complex for us little folk. It should be simplified, government style, to the second Tuesday after the second Monday in April.
Posted by: geoffb5 at April 15, 2017 12:11 PM (d3wbb)
75
Viewing that image brings to mind some questions about tricorne hats.
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Next up: Lace wigs
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Next up: Lace wigs
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 12:11 PM (ZO497)
76
April 15th is too complex for us little folk. It should be simplified, government style, to the second Tuesday after the second Monday in April.
Posted by: geoffb5
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Couldn't we tie it to the full moon?
Posted by: geoffb5
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Couldn't we tie it to the full moon?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 12:12 PM (ZO497)
77
I put mustard on hot dogs, ketchup on bratwurst, and mayonnaise on kielbasa.
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2017 12:13 PM (sdi6R)
78
Ok.
Sigh...
But first Mrs Diogenes says I have to do my chores.
But having said that, I am sure the thread measures up to the Horde's typically low Saturday morning standards.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:56 AM (0tfLf)
It does.
Sigh...
But first Mrs Diogenes says I have to do my chores.
But having said that, I am sure the thread measures up to the Horde's typically low Saturday morning standards.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2017 11:56 AM (0tfLf)
It does.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 12:13 PM (Pz4pT)
79
And in other weird news...
BBC is reporting that Pepe the Frog, is now starting to influence the French Election, as US and Brit meme artists go to work...
So, yes... a US Frog, influencing French Politics..
Somehow... appropriate....
BBC is reporting that Pepe the Frog, is now starting to influence the French Election, as US and Brit meme artists go to work...
So, yes... a US Frog, influencing French Politics..
Somehow... appropriate....
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 12:13 PM (NgKpN)
80
I put... ketchup on bratwurst, and...
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2017 12:13 PM (sdi6R)
Communist.
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2017 12:13 PM (sdi6R)
Communist.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 12:14 PM (Pz4pT)
81
I'll bet Soros has a silken, gold embroidered, diamond studded pussy hat.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 12:14 PM (vRcUp)
82
Meanwhile, my great dilemma for a Saturday morn is whether Thurston Moore solo albums are overindulgent or just the right amount of indulgent.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 12:15 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 15, 2017 12:16 PM (AxNKq)
84
Wheee
Posted by: ThunderB at April 15, 2017 12:16 PM (AxNKq)
85
82 Meanwhile, my great dilemma for a Saturday morn is whether Thurston Moore solo albums are overindulgent or just the right amount of indulgent.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 12:15 PM (Pz4pT)
No Thurston is overly indulgent! right Lovey?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 12:15 PM (Pz4pT)
No Thurston is overly indulgent! right Lovey?
Posted by: Thurston Howell III at April 15, 2017 12:16 PM (NgKpN)
86
BBC is reporting that Pepe the Frog, is now starting to influence the French Election, as US and Brit meme artists go to work...
It is a French name, I guess (Pepe le Pew). I always pronounce it "Peep".
It is a French name, I guess (Pepe le Pew). I always pronounce it "Peep".
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 12:21 PM (vRcUp)
87
Viewing that image brings to mind some questions about tricorne hats. What was the rationale behind their design? How did they come to be popular? And were they as commonly worn as depicted in the picture? What is the significance of the symbols seen on some of them? Did they go all floppy when it rained? And why did they fall out of use?
I believe that they originated as a military variant of the late 17th century round-brimmed hat - the brim got in the way of shouldering a musket with the new drills used with flintlocks, so it was pinned up out of the way. Entered the civilian world as a fashion statement during one of those endless European wars, not sure when.
They were pretty much the standard dress hats for a long time, I believe. Quakers wore the old brimmed hats and for work common, round brimmed, floppy hats were common for field workers, while sailors and such-like wore knitted caps. People did not go bare-headed as a rule. So you wore a work hat suited to what you were doing, but for social ocassions, unless you were a Quaker you probably wore a tricorne.
I believe that there were variants in how they were worn - military ones were formed in such a way that there was no point directly over the right shoulder (musket drill again), civilian ones were worn, at least sometimes, as shown in the picture. The "symbols" you are looking at are the sewing/tapes holding up the brim. People did wear cockades in their hats from time to time, though.
I think they were shellacked, so they were waterproofed to some extent, though over time and with wear they might have started drooping.
As for why they fell out, as far as I know it was just fashion. They were replaced by bicorn hats and the top hat with a small brim and taller, flat crown I believe.
I believe that they originated as a military variant of the late 17th century round-brimmed hat - the brim got in the way of shouldering a musket with the new drills used with flintlocks, so it was pinned up out of the way. Entered the civilian world as a fashion statement during one of those endless European wars, not sure when.
They were pretty much the standard dress hats for a long time, I believe. Quakers wore the old brimmed hats and for work common, round brimmed, floppy hats were common for field workers, while sailors and such-like wore knitted caps. People did not go bare-headed as a rule. So you wore a work hat suited to what you were doing, but for social ocassions, unless you were a Quaker you probably wore a tricorne.
I believe that there were variants in how they were worn - military ones were formed in such a way that there was no point directly over the right shoulder (musket drill again), civilian ones were worn, at least sometimes, as shown in the picture. The "symbols" you are looking at are the sewing/tapes holding up the brim. People did wear cockades in their hats from time to time, though.
I think they were shellacked, so they were waterproofed to some extent, though over time and with wear they might have started drooping.
As for why they fell out, as far as I know it was just fashion. They were replaced by bicorn hats and the top hat with a small brim and taller, flat crown I believe.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 15, 2017 12:21 PM (bZ7mE)
88
79 And in other weird news...
BBC is reporting that Pepe the Frog, is now starting to influence the French Election, as US and Brit meme artists go to work...
So, yes... a US Frog, influencing French Politics..
Somehow... appropriate....
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 12:13 PM (NgKpN)
--That is awesome!
The Kekistani diaspora will triumph!
BBC is reporting that Pepe the Frog, is now starting to influence the French Election, as US and Brit meme artists go to work...
So, yes... a US Frog, influencing French Politics..
Somehow... appropriate....
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 12:13 PM (NgKpN)
--That is awesome!
The Kekistani diaspora will triumph!
Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2017 12:22 PM (GsAUU)
89
My turn for a question: What the heck is this Kekistan thing?
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 15, 2017 12:24 PM (bZ7mE)
90
53 I have several friends in their late fifties who
have only a couple of months income saved, they are relying on a govt.
pension and SS once they retire.
It boggles my mind.
Posted by: Jen at April 15, 2017 11:51 AM (ZgC02)
Anyone who is depending on SS for retirement is in truly bad shape. If I had to depend on nothing but SS I would be starving.
have only a couple of months income saved, they are relying on a govt.
pension and SS once they retire.
It boggles my mind.
Posted by: Jen at April 15, 2017 11:51 AM (ZgC02)
Anyone who is depending on SS for retirement is in truly bad shape. If I had to depend on nothing but SS I would be starving.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 12:25 PM (mpXpK)
91
47 The thing to realize about no withholding is a large percentage of the tax paying population will not be saving up to pay taxes at the end of the year and will either be on a permanent payment plan year after year, or will have their pay garnished, which is about the same as having a withholding, but at 25%
If you are cool about that, then no problemo.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:45 AM (ii4h0)
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I'm very cool with that. It would make people extremely aware of all the money government confiscates. Plus it would teach some hard lessons to a lot of people who seem to have no sense of responsibility for their own finances.
It's also a good way to get more fiscally responsible people in congress.
If you are cool about that, then no problemo.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:45 AM (ii4h0)
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I'm very cool with that. It would make people extremely aware of all the money government confiscates. Plus it would teach some hard lessons to a lot of people who seem to have no sense of responsibility for their own finances.
It's also a good way to get more fiscally responsible people in congress.
Posted by: Soona at April 15, 2017 12:25 PM (Fmupd)
92
As for why they fell out, as far as I know it was just fashion. They were replaced by bicorn hats and the top hat with a small brim and taller, flat crown I believe.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 15, 2017 12:21 PM
The bicorn which replaced the tricorn was eventually replaced by the unicorn hat.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32117/
As for why they fell out, as far as I know it was just fashion. They were replaced by bicorn hats and the top hat with a small brim and taller, flat crown I believe.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 15, 2017 12:21 PM
The bicorn which replaced the tricorn was eventually replaced by the unicorn hat.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32117/
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2017 12:32 PM (IqV8l)
93
I've used TaxAct from 2nd Story Software for about 15 years and it makes filing my fairly straight forward taxes a one evening effort.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:36 PM (LTHVh)
94
If you are cool about that, then no problemo.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:45 AM (ii4h0)
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You have to combine it with the payment coming the Thursday before election day. Which would take some time to shift.
In the meantime, you make withholding work so that noone gets a refund (unless they have a drastic life-change during the year) - everyone will have to pay something on tax day.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:45 AM (ii4h0)
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You have to combine it with the payment coming the Thursday before election day. Which would take some time to shift.
In the meantime, you make withholding work so that noone gets a refund (unless they have a drastic life-change during the year) - everyone will have to pay something on tax day.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2017 12:36 PM (T4/mx)
95
89 My turn for a question: What the heck is this Kekistan thing?
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 15, 2017 12:24 PM (bZ7mE)
--Relax and enjoy.
https://youtu.be/iOBMbAme1UY
(Kek was an Egyptian deity who resembled a frog or a toad.)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 15, 2017 12:24 PM (bZ7mE)
--Relax and enjoy.
https://youtu.be/iOBMbAme1UY
(Kek was an Egyptian deity who resembled a frog or a toad.)
Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2017 12:38 PM (GsAUU)
96
I've used TaxAct from 2nd Story Software for about 15 years and it makes filing my fairly straight forward taxes a one evening effort.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:36 PM (LTHVh)
Same here. Price goes up every year, but for convenience, I don't care about price.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:36 PM (LTHVh)
Same here. Price goes up every year, but for convenience, I don't care about price.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 12:39 PM (Pz4pT)
97
Tax Day...ugh. Uncle Sugar is taking me to the woodshed this year. Maybe I'll be helping to pay for more MOABs, so there's that.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2017 12:41 PM (Tyii7)
98
Granted, I haven't added to my IRA in the last 8 years because I fully expected it to be "adopted" as part of the coming bail out of state, federal and union pensions.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:55 AM (ii4h0)
The fact that the IRS knows exactly what investments you have in your IRA or other retirement account and how much they are to the penny always made me suspicious. What a great wealth leveling tool they have created for the worker bees!
Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2017 11:55 AM (ii4h0)
The fact that the IRS knows exactly what investments you have in your IRA or other retirement account and how much they are to the penny always made me suspicious. What a great wealth leveling tool they have created for the worker bees!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 15, 2017 12:43 PM (gwPgz)
99
Kek was an Egyptian deity who resembled a frog or a toad.
I thought Kek was that guy with the margin-busting election maps.
I thought Kek was that guy with the margin-busting election maps.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at April 15, 2017 12:43 PM (Tyii7)
100
You have to combine it with the payment coming the Thursday before election day. Which would take some time to shift.
In the meantime, you make withholding work so that noone gets a refund (unless they have a drastic life-change during the year) - everyone will have to pay something on tax day.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2017 12:36 PM (T4/mx)
Let me repeat my suggestion, to give the FSA some perceived skin in the game: gross up welfare benefits by, say, 10%, and then tax them back down to where they are now, and make welfare recipients pay back that 10% (either writing a check, or paying in cash if they don't have a checking account).
They'd be no worse off financially, but the pain of peeling off greenbacks that they once had, but now don't, would provide them with some perspective on taxes.
In the meantime, you make withholding work so that noone gets a refund (unless they have a drastic life-change during the year) - everyone will have to pay something on tax day.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2017 12:36 PM (T4/mx)
Let me repeat my suggestion, to give the FSA some perceived skin in the game: gross up welfare benefits by, say, 10%, and then tax them back down to where they are now, and make welfare recipients pay back that 10% (either writing a check, or paying in cash if they don't have a checking account).
They'd be no worse off financially, but the pain of peeling off greenbacks that they once had, but now don't, would provide them with some perspective on taxes.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 12:44 PM (SRKgf)
101
99 Kek was an Egyptian deity who resembled a frog or a toad.
I thought Kek was that guy with the margin-busting election maps.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at April 15, 2017 12:43 PM (Tyii7)
--Heh, that was CAC. Cac is also ancient Roman for shit, which no doubt is the origin of the Spanish caca.
I thought Kek was that guy with the margin-busting election maps.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at April 15, 2017 12:43 PM (Tyii7)
--Heh, that was CAC. Cac is also ancient Roman for shit, which no doubt is the origin of the Spanish caca.
Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2017 12:45 PM (GsAUU)
102
Same here. Price goes up every year, but for convenience, I don't care about price.
I've been writing off losses from the crash for years and the software keeps up with it for me. Next year will be the last Depression losses carryforward I'll be able to use.
I've been writing off losses from the crash for years and the software keeps up with it for me. Next year will be the last Depression losses carryforward I'll be able to use.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:47 PM (LTHVh)
103
Heh, I see some Youtube users whose avatars are Pepe with long blonde hair like Marine Le Pen. 
Posted by: logprof at April 15, 2017 12:51 PM (GsAUU)
104
I'm also about to lose all my mortgage interest deductions so I will get soaked in a couple of years.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:51 PM (LTHVh)
105
I'm also about to lose all my mortgage interest deductions so I will get soaked in a couple of years.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:51 PM (LTHVh)
My kids are growing out of dependent status (although very much still dependent, in real life terms), so I've got that to look forward to.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:51 PM (LTHVh)
My kids are growing out of dependent status (although very much still dependent, in real life terms), so I've got that to look forward to.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 12:52 PM (Pz4pT)
106
That baby giraffe is looking much mo stable. It shuffles pretty comfortably around.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:54 PM (LTHVh)
107
104
I'm also about to lose all my mortgage interest deductions so I will get soaked in a couple of years.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:51 PM (LTHVh)
I lost mine long long ago. But look at it this way. Every dollar of mortgage interest only returns about 20 cents.
I'm also about to lose all my mortgage interest deductions so I will get soaked in a couple of years.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:51 PM (LTHVh)
I lost mine long long ago. But look at it this way. Every dollar of mortgage interest only returns about 20 cents.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 12:54 PM (mpXpK)
108
Free at last, free at last. Thank Gaia almighty, I'm free at last.
Posted by: Baby April at April 15, 2017 12:55 PM (Tyii7)
109
I lost mine long long ago. But look at it this way. Every dollar of mortgage interest only returns about 20 cents.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 12:54 PM (mpXpK)
Itemized deductions always seem to be of minimal benefit to me, but every little bit helps.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 12:54 PM (mpXpK)
Itemized deductions always seem to be of minimal benefit to me, but every little bit helps.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 15, 2017 12:56 PM (gwPgz)
110
Tithing is now my largest deduction, as it should be I guess.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:57 PM (LTHVh)
111
Guess any day later for tax day is better, but screwing it all up for a non holiday is nuts. Just make it a day not on anyones holiday schedule
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2017 12:58 PM (Ot7+c)
112
Mom tried to drop me on my head during my birf. I'm thinking of filing a complaint with Zoological Services.
Posted by: Baby April at April 15, 2017 12:59 PM (Tyii7)
113
106 That baby giraffe is looking much mo stable. It shuffles pretty comfortably around.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:54 PM (LTHVh)
They grow up so fast.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:54 PM (LTHVh)
They grow up so fast.
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2017 01:00 PM (sdi6R)
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Hey mindful, the answer to your question I've seen twice the next morning is ne Kansas/nw Mo.
Posted by: teej at April 15, 2017 01:01 PM (yBWAd)
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The Federal taxes aren't too bad. I normally come close or pay a small amount. I did get a small refund this year as I'm still withholding as single but filing as married. (I havent gotten around to changing my last name yet either).
But Oregon taxes! It's the most f**ked mess you've ever seen. I dont live there but the company I work for is in the state. I telecommute so I get all of it back, except the days I go into the office. There's a full page of crap deductions and exemptions you have to wade through. It sucks even when computerized.
And every penny I get goes immediately for property taxes on two places here. Still need to pay off one, which will take my husband's entire SS check. And this is part of the reason both places go up for sale as soon as we finish clean up and repairs. We're done with this. Let some other fool give this county money.
But Oregon taxes! It's the most f**ked mess you've ever seen. I dont live there but the company I work for is in the state. I telecommute so I get all of it back, except the days I go into the office. There's a full page of crap deductions and exemptions you have to wade through. It sucks even when computerized.
And every penny I get goes immediately for property taxes on two places here. Still need to pay off one, which will take my husband's entire SS check. And this is part of the reason both places go up for sale as soon as we finish clean up and repairs. We're done with this. Let some other fool give this county money.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 15, 2017 01:01 PM (Lqy/e)
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Al Green is Easter
Posted by: Cosmic Charlue at April 15, 2017 01:04 PM (1dH2d)
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I got hammered for John Roberts tax for not buying something, and Philadelphia owns me a refund that tax guy says I wouldn't get if I tried.
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2017 01:04 PM (Ot7+c)
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Property taxes are indeed the killer. People in my county who have never paid a dime in taxes in their lives keep voting for levies that I don't want but end up paying for anyway. Grrr.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2017 01:06 PM (Tyii7)
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Communist.
Posted by: BurtTC
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*dammit*
The April allocation of Mickey Spillane quotes has already been used up.
Posted by: BurtTC
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*dammit*
The April allocation of Mickey Spillane quotes has already been used up.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 01:07 PM (ZO497)
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Why is there still afterbirth stuff hanging out of April's hoo-ha?
Posted by: lindarose at April 15, 2017 01:08 PM (JNDQi)
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Property taxes are indeed the killer. People in my county who have never paid a dime in taxes in their lives keep voting for levies that I don't want but end up paying for anyway. Grrr.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2017 01:06 PM (Tyii7)
Yep. Another 1/2 cent for the chidren and their skools? Sure, why not. What could it possibly hurt.
You do love the chidren... don't you?
Or hey, fancy police cruisers don't pay for themselves, you know.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2017 01:06 PM (Tyii7)
Yep. Another 1/2 cent for the chidren and their skools? Sure, why not. What could it possibly hurt.
You do love the chidren... don't you?
Or hey, fancy police cruisers don't pay for themselves, you know.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2017 01:10 PM (Pz4pT)
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We are behind on both places, so it's a fight to keep them out of foreclosure. The county has been helpful with the amount of time we have to pay it. But every year, they jack up the taxes. One place has so many restrictions on it that it's almost unusable.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 15, 2017 01:11 PM (Lqy/e)
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The discussion of tricornes and bicornes got me looking up hats on Wikipedia, which led me to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_Hat_Riot
First World Problems, 1922 style.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_Hat_Riot
First World Problems, 1922 style.
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2017 01:11 PM (sdi6R)
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Property taxes are indeed the killer. People in my county who have never paid a dime in taxes in their lives keep voting for levies that I don't want but end up paying for anyway. Grrr.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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It is our largest our largest single expense.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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It is our largest our largest single expense.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 01:13 PM (ZO497)
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Why is there still afterbirth stuff hanging out of April's hoo-ha?
Oh, that's what's left of the pizza I had delivered on Thursday.
Oh, that's what's left of the pizza I had delivered on Thursday.
Posted by: Baby April at April 15, 2017 01:13 PM (Tyii7)
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I got hammered for John Roberts tax for not buying something, and Philadelphia owns me a refund that tax guy says I wouldn't get if I tried.
Posted by: Skip
Skip - you don't have to pay the OCare tax - just leave that line empty.
Don't believe me - look it up.
Posted by: Skip
Skip - you don't have to pay the OCare tax - just leave that line empty.
Don't believe me - look it up.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 15, 2017 01:14 PM (HTdUD)
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Or hey, fancy police cruisers don't pay for themselves, you know.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Greenways, we must have greenways!
The city is currently building a 1 1/2 mile hiking path, for $3,000,000. Next up: We need money for teacher salaries! Tax must go up!
Posted by: BurtTC
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Greenways, we must have greenways!
The city is currently building a 1 1/2 mile hiking path, for $3,000,000. Next up: We need money for teacher salaries! Tax must go up!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 01:15 PM (ZO497)
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Ok
I just saw about 5 folks roll in to Boston Logan airport
Paralyzed folks and amputees, with their race wheels
Here for the Boston ai
Ok
I just saw about 5 folks roll in to Boston Logan airport
Paralyzed folks and amputees, with their race wheels
Here for the Boston ai
Posted by: ThunderB at April 15, 2017 01:19 PM (aZP8r)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 15, 2017 01:20 PM (aZP8r)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 15, 2017 01:20 PM (aZP8r)
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Or hey, fancy police cruisers don't pay for themselves, you know.
Posted by: BurtTC
I don't know about where you live, but all the police departments and State Troopers here are converting to Ford Explorer SUV's as cruisers.
What now passes for a normal size Sedan is no longer big enough.
Posted by: BurtTC
I don't know about where you live, but all the police departments and State Troopers here are converting to Ford Explorer SUV's as cruisers.
What now passes for a normal size Sedan is no longer big enough.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at April 15, 2017 01:22 PM (S6Pax)
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The city is currently building a 1 1/2 mile hiking path, for $3,000,000.
Yeah, my city spent almost two years who knows how much money to widen a main thoroughfare for...bike paths. Local businesses on that road lost thousands of dollars each to this wonderful civic endeavor. And now? Nobody uses the bike paths.
Yeah, my city spent almost two years who knows how much money to widen a main thoroughfare for...bike paths. Local businesses on that road lost thousands of dollars each to this wonderful civic endeavor. And now? Nobody uses the bike paths.
Posted by: Baby April at April 15, 2017 01:24 PM (Tyii7)
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new giraffe sock off. sheesh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2017 01:24 PM (Tyii7)
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104 I'm also about to lose all my mortgage interest deductions so I will get soaked in a couple of years.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:51 PM (LTHVh)
Talk about a stupid tax policy...
OK, you pay less taxes if you are in debt for your home... but NOT if you OWN your own home...
but its supposed to be there to incentivize home ownership....
When in reality, it incentivizes debt....
/facepalm
Posted by: Grump928(C) Comma Master at April 15, 2017 12:51 PM (LTHVh)
Talk about a stupid tax policy...
OK, you pay less taxes if you are in debt for your home... but NOT if you OWN your own home...
but its supposed to be there to incentivize home ownership....
When in reality, it incentivizes debt....
/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 01:27 PM (NgKpN)
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Greenways, we must have greenways!
The city is currently building a 1 1/2 mile hiking path, for $3,000,000. Next up: We need money for teacher salaries! Tax must go up!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 01:15 PM (ZO497)
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UN Agenda 21 bullshit. It's one of the few things Glenn Beck got right. Look it up. It'll scare the shit out of ya.
The city is currently building a 1 1/2 mile hiking path, for $3,000,000. Next up: We need money for teacher salaries! Tax must go up!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2017 01:15 PM (ZO497)
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UN Agenda 21 bullshit. It's one of the few things Glenn Beck got right. Look it up. It'll scare the shit out of ya.
Posted by: Soona at April 15, 2017 01:30 PM (Fmupd)
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And my little town in Central Calif? Just declared Bankruptcy...
Why? They overpaid for a sewer and water plant because of State Regulation...
and... oh... even though we are out of the drought, and they are letting water run to the Sea right now, my little town is still can't water our lawns more than 2 days a week... because the Water plant uses Well water ONLY...
Why? They overpaid for a sewer and water plant because of State Regulation...
and... oh... even though we are out of the drought, and they are letting water run to the Sea right now, my little town is still can't water our lawns more than 2 days a week... because the Water plant uses Well water ONLY...
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 01:33 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2017 01:33 PM (7dpmG)
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132 Yeah, my city spent almost two years who knows how
much money to widen a main thoroughfare for...bike paths. Local
businesses on that road lost thousands of dollars each to this wonderful
civic endeavor. And now? Nobody uses the bike paths.
Posted by: Baby April at April 15, 2017 01:24 PM (Tyii7)
Same thing here. Those bike paths have been in for over ten years and I have never seen a single bike on them. My understanding is there was federal matching grants and a chance for pocketing some.
much money to widen a main thoroughfare for...bike paths. Local
businesses on that road lost thousands of dollars each to this wonderful
civic endeavor. And now? Nobody uses the bike paths.
Posted by: Baby April at April 15, 2017 01:24 PM (Tyii7)
Same thing here. Those bike paths have been in for over ten years and I have never seen a single bike on them. My understanding is there was federal matching grants and a chance for pocketing some.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 01:34 PM (mpXpK)
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136 And my little town in Central Calif? Just declared Bankruptcy...
Why? They overpaid for a sewer and water plant because of State Regulation...
and... oh... even though we are out of the drought, and they are letting water run to the Sea right now, my little town is still can't water our lawns more than 2 days a week... because the Water plant uses Well water ONLY...
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 01:33 PM (NgKpN)
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You're still free to move. Myself? I could not support that kind of crazy.
136 And my little town in Central Calif? Just declared Bankruptcy...
Why? They overpaid for a sewer and water plant because of State Regulation...
and... oh... even though we are out of the drought, and they are letting water run to the Sea right now, my little town is still can't water our lawns more than 2 days a week... because the Water plant uses Well water ONLY...
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 01:33 PM (NgKpN)
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You're still free to move. Myself? I could not support that kind of crazy.
Posted by: Soona at April 15, 2017 01:39 PM (Fmupd)
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Anyone know if the baby identifies as a boy or girl yet?
Posted by: lindarose at April 15, 2017 01:44 PM (JNDQi)
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Same thing here. Those bike paths have been in for over ten years and I have never seen a single bike on them. My understanding is there was federal matching grants and a chance for pocketing some.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
Yup. Same here. They push for trails, walking and biking, and no one uses them. The bicycles, when you do see them, are out in the street making a nuisance of themselves riding two abreast and blocking traffic.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
Yup. Same here. They push for trails, walking and biking, and no one uses them. The bicycles, when you do see them, are out in the street making a nuisance of themselves riding two abreast and blocking traffic.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 15, 2017 01:45 PM (HTdUD)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2017 01:47 PM (7dpmG)
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Fat Boy Little Man didn't test his new nuke. Instead he put some big fake Bottle Rockets on trucks. Pence shows up tomorrow to blow a rasberry from our side of the DMZ. China won't buy coal and won't sell oil.
Isn't this a win?
Isn't this a win?
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 15, 2017 01:51 PM (bQxkN)
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Why is there still afterbirth stuff hanging out of April's hoo-ha?
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Let's ask the expert.
Jen?
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Let's ask the expert.
Jen?
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 15, 2017 01:52 PM (Uxokn)
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Anyone know if the baby identifies as a boy or girl yet?
Posted by: lindarose
Gay activists try to argue that homosexuality is "natural" by claiming there are gay animals. But doesn't that delegitimize the transgender movement since there are no transgender animals?
Posted by: lindarose
Gay activists try to argue that homosexuality is "natural" by claiming there are gay animals. But doesn't that delegitimize the transgender movement since there are no transgender animals?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 01:53 PM (vRcUp)
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I'm not ghey. I'm a giraffe.
Posted by: Baby April at April 15, 2017 01:55 PM (Tyii7)
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Gay activists try to argue that homosexuality is "natural" by claiming there are gay animals. But doesn't that delegitimize the transgender movement since there are no transgender animals?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 01:53 PM (vRcUp)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphiprioninae#Reproduction
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 01:53 PM (vRcUp)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphiprioninae#Reproduction
Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2017 01:56 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 01:56 PM (vRcUp)
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We animals fart in the general direction of the gender warriors.
Posted by: Baby April at April 15, 2017 01:57 PM (Tyii7)
150
Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2017 01:56 PM (8nWyX)
So Nemo is a tranny? The things I learn here.
So Nemo is a tranny? The things I learn here.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 02:00 PM (vRcUp)
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141 Same thing here. Those bike paths have been in for over ten years and I have never seen a single bike on them. My understanding is there was federal matching grants and a chance for pocketing some.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
Yup. Same here. They push for trails, walking and biking, and no one uses them. The bicycles, when you do see them, are out in the street making a nuisance of themselves riding two abreast and blocking traffic.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 15, 2017 01:45 PM (HTdUD)
Ah, so that bike path shit is not just a California thing then? We have signs on some major streets that say cyclists can use the whole lane. Great idea, as some of the signs are on steep up grades where the speed limit is 40 mph. Grrrr.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
Yup. Same here. They push for trails, walking and biking, and no one uses them. The bicycles, when you do see them, are out in the street making a nuisance of themselves riding two abreast and blocking traffic.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 15, 2017 01:45 PM (HTdUD)
Ah, so that bike path shit is not just a California thing then? We have signs on some major streets that say cyclists can use the whole lane. Great idea, as some of the signs are on steep up grades where the speed limit is 40 mph. Grrrr.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:00 PM (SRKgf)
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Tax guy did my taxes, I don't know anything more about the subject that Tim Geithner
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2017 02:01 PM (Ot7+c)
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Gay activists try to argue that homosexuality is "natural" by claiming there are gay animals. But doesn't that delegitimize the transgender movement since there are no transgender animals?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 01:53 PM (vRcUp)
So ... what about animals that practice cannibalism? Natural? Desirable?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 01:53 PM (vRcUp)
So ... what about animals that practice cannibalism? Natural? Desirable?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:02 PM (SRKgf)
154
Goose stepping soldiers has long been a thing for totalitarian armies. Appropriately, the NORKs have invented their own even sillier bouncing goose step
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 15, 2017 02:03 PM (bQxkN)
155
Here's a true life Weekly World News/Lifetime Movie Channel story.
http://mississippiherald.com/jackson-husband-wife-shocked-dna-test-reveals-biological-twins/
http://mississippiherald.com/jackson-husband-wife-shocked-dna-test-reveals-biological-twins/
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 15, 2017 02:04 PM (Nwg0u)
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Sweet job if you can get it
libertyunyielding maxine waters caught paying hundreds of thousands to daughter in campaign
libertyunyielding maxine waters caught paying hundreds of thousands to daughter in campaign
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2017 02:04 PM (Ot7+c)
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We animals fart in the general direction of the gender warriors.
Posted by: Baby April
10% of animals are gay, and that may include you. Maybe you should change your name to Gaypril.
Posted by: Baby April
10% of animals are gay, and that may include you. Maybe you should change your name to Gaypril.
Posted by: Alfred Kinsey at April 15, 2017 02:06 PM (vRcUp)
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143 Fat Boy Little Man didn't test his new nuke. Instead he put some big fake Bottle Rockets on trucks. Pence shows up tomorrow to blow a rasberry from our side of the DMZ. China won't buy coal and won't sell oil.
Isn't this a win?
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Maybe not a win yet, but definitely a first down.
Isn't this a win?
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Maybe not a win yet, but definitely a first down.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 15, 2017 02:07 PM (Nwg0u)
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I don't know about where you live, but all the police departments and State Troopers here are converting to Ford Explorer SUV's as cruisers.
What now passes for a normal size Sedan is no longer big enough.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at April 15, 2017 01:22 PM
My employer appreciates that.
I don't know about where you live, but all the police departments and State Troopers here are converting to Ford Explorer SUV's as cruisers.
What now passes for a normal size Sedan is no longer big enough.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at April 15, 2017 01:22 PM
My employer appreciates that.
Posted by: F.N.G. at April 15, 2017 02:07 PM (tj7nx)
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10% of animals are gay, and that may include you. Maybe you should change your name to Gaypril.
Posted by: Alfred Kinsey at April 15, 2017 02:06 PM (vRcUp)
I was on Gaypril (actually the generic) for like two weeks when I had strep. Gave me the worst shits.
Posted by: Alfred Kinsey at April 15, 2017 02:06 PM (vRcUp)
I was on Gaypril (actually the generic) for like two weeks when I had strep. Gave me the worst shits.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2017 02:09 PM (8nWyX)
161
Here's a true life Weekly World News/Lifetime Movie Channel story.
http://mississippiherald.com/jackson-husband-wife-shocked-dna-test-reveals-biological-twins/
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
The best part of that story is the very last sentence.
http://mississippiherald.com/jackson-husband-wife-shocked-dna-test-reveals-biological-twins/
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
The best part of that story is the very last sentence.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 02:12 PM (vRcUp)
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154 Goose stepping soldiers has long been a thing for totalitarian armies. Appropriately, the NORKs have invented their own even sillier bouncing goose step
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The NoRocKettes
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The NoRocKettes
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 15, 2017 02:12 PM (Nwg0u)
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151 Ah, so that bike path shit is not just a California
thing then? We have signs on some major streets that say cyclists can
use the whole lane. Great idea, as some of the signs are on steep up
grades where the speed limit is 40 mph. Grrrr.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:00 PM (SRKgf)
It was a federal program so I assume it is nationwide.
thing then? We have signs on some major streets that say cyclists can
use the whole lane. Great idea, as some of the signs are on steep up
grades where the speed limit is 40 mph. Grrrr.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:00 PM (SRKgf)
It was a federal program so I assume it is nationwide.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 02:14 PM (mpXpK)
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My cpa is worse than my it jerk.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2017 02:17 PM (7dpmG)
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Tax advice: If you are not doing your own taxes, don't just go to a CPA, go to a tax attorney, that way, is things turn ugly, you way you have attorney - client privilege.
Posted by: navybrat at April 15, 2017 02:19 PM (w7KSn)
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It was a federal program so I assume it is nationwide.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 02:14 PM (mpXpK)
I should have guessed. It's stupid enough to have arisen with the Obama Administration.
Of course, that kind of stupidity is a chip shot for California.
The thing is, WTF actually uses bicycles for transportation? I'd guess the demographic is white males under age 30. Exclusively. You'd think that the race baiters and feminists would have a cow about spending money on such wretched refuse.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 02:14 PM (mpXpK)
I should have guessed. It's stupid enough to have arisen with the Obama Administration.
Of course, that kind of stupidity is a chip shot for California.
The thing is, WTF actually uses bicycles for transportation? I'd guess the demographic is white males under age 30. Exclusively. You'd think that the race baiters and feminists would have a cow about spending money on such wretched refuse.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:22 PM (SRKgf)
167
Where has Jen been?
Posted by: lindarose at April 15, 2017 02:26 PM (JNDQi)
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The thing is, WTF actually uses bicycles for transportation? I'd guess the demographic is white males under age 30. Exclusively.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:22 PM (SRKgf)
It probably depends on where you are, but you might be surprised. I used to do grocery runs to Kroger on the bike back when I was using it pretty much exclusively for commuting, and I know quite a few other people from different demographics who did too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:22 PM (SRKgf)
It probably depends on where you are, but you might be surprised. I used to do grocery runs to Kroger on the bike back when I was using it pretty much exclusively for commuting, and I know quite a few other people from different demographics who did too.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2017 02:29 PM (8nWyX)
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166 I should have guessed. It's stupid enough to have arisen with the Obama Administration.
The thing is, WTF actually uses bicycles for
transportation? I'd guess the demographic is white males under age 30.
Exclusively. You'd think that the race baiters and feminists would have a
cow about spending money on such wretched refuse.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:22 PM (SRKgf)
The current mess was put in place by Obama in 2014, but the whole program has been in place for much longer than that.
The thing is, WTF actually uses bicycles for
transportation? I'd guess the demographic is white males under age 30.
Exclusively. You'd think that the race baiters and feminists would have a
cow about spending money on such wretched refuse.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:22 PM (SRKgf)
The current mess was put in place by Obama in 2014, but the whole program has been in place for much longer than that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2017 02:31 PM (mpXpK)
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You're still free to move. Myself? I could not support that kind of crazy.
Posted by: Soona at April 15, 2017 01:39 PM (Fmupd)
Can't blast my 88 year old Mom out of this town... we tried...
Sometimes, you are stuck places by circumstance...
Posted by: Soona at April 15, 2017 01:39 PM (Fmupd)
Can't blast my 88 year old Mom out of this town... we tried...
Sometimes, you are stuck places by circumstance...
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 02:36 PM (NgKpN)
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Virginia Plain is very epic
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2017 02:40 PM (1dH2d)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2017 02:41 PM (vRcUp)
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When I was young
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 15, 2017 02:42 PM (1dH2d)
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We already have bike paths, they're called sidewalks.
If a biker hits a pedestrian his penalty is the same as if he were driving a car.
But no. In my old neighborhood they widened a major through street to two lanes, great. One year later Mayor Knumbnuts painted bike lane stripes on same billion dollar street rendering it to the same POS it originally was.
If a biker hits a pedestrian his penalty is the same as if he were driving a car.
But no. In my old neighborhood they widened a major through street to two lanes, great. One year later Mayor Knumbnuts painted bike lane stripes on same billion dollar street rendering it to the same POS it originally was.
Posted by: gNewt at April 15, 2017 02:43 PM (sUMfc)
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Can't blast my 88 year old Mom out of this town... we tried...
Sometimes, you are stuck places by circumstance...
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 02:36 PM (NgKpN)
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One word: Chloroform. When she wakes up in central TX, she'll never know the difference.
Can't blast my 88 year old Mom out of this town... we tried...
Sometimes, you are stuck places by circumstance...
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 02:36 PM (NgKpN)
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One word: Chloroform. When she wakes up in central TX, she'll never know the difference.
Posted by: Soona at April 15, 2017 02:44 PM (Fmupd)
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Chloroform is a little radical but yeah, unless she's tack sharp, just create an atmosphere at the new place that will be familiar and comfortable. The transition will be rather smooth.
Don't talk about it just do it.
Don't talk about it just do it.
Posted by: gNewt at April 15, 2017 02:50 PM (sUMfc)
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We could learn a lot from the fish. They don't need bicycle paths.
Posted by: Sally Kohn at April 15, 2017 02:50 PM (vRcUp)
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I just can't imagine any broad sweeping federal tax reform. No corp/personal deductions are going away imo. About the only thing I see is a reduction in the corp tax rate, maybe. The uniparty is just too strong.
Btw, we really need a new political party. I've finally come to it. This big tent idea is a crock. We can't get anything done when we don't agree as a party what we should do. Right?
Btw, we really need a new political party. I've finally come to it. This big tent idea is a crock. We can't get anything done when we don't agree as a party what we should do. Right?
Posted by: Matty at April 15, 2017 02:54 PM (Vfg5+)
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177 We could learn a lot from the fish. They don't need bicycle paths.
Posted by: Sally Kohn at April 15, 2017 02:50 PM (vRcUp)
We don't need them either, but we have them anyway.
Posted by: Sally Kohn at April 15, 2017 02:50 PM (vRcUp)
We don't need them either, but we have them anyway.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2017 02:54 PM (SRKgf)
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178 I just can't imagine any broad sweeping federal tax reform. No corp/personal deductions are going away imo. About the only thing I see is a reduction in the corp tax rate, maybe. The uniparty is just too strong.
Btw, we really need a new political party. I've finally come to it. This big tent idea is a crock. We can't get anything done when we don't agree as a party what we should do. Right?
Posted by: Matty at April 15, 2017 02:54 PM (Vfg5+)
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When the world collapses onto itself it might be feasible. Until then, the people who have power are not going to relinquish it.
178 I just can't imagine any broad sweeping federal tax reform. No corp/personal deductions are going away imo. About the only thing I see is a reduction in the corp tax rate, maybe. The uniparty is just too strong.
Btw, we really need a new political party. I've finally come to it. This big tent idea is a crock. We can't get anything done when we don't agree as a party what we should do. Right?
Posted by: Matty at April 15, 2017 02:54 PM (Vfg5+)
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When the world collapses onto itself it might be feasible. Until then, the people who have power are not going to relinquish it.
Posted by: Soona at April 15, 2017 03:00 PM (Fmupd)
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One word: Chloroform. When she wakes up in central TX, she'll never know the difference.
Posted by: Soona at April 15, 2017 02:44 PM (Fmupd)
Sadly? She's been to Central Texas and would know the difference...
Less Spanish spoken there... /facepalm
Posted by: Soona at April 15, 2017 02:44 PM (Fmupd)
Sadly? She's been to Central Texas and would know the difference...
Less Spanish spoken there... /facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at April 15, 2017 04:43 PM (NgKpN)
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I got hit with a thumb tax..oweee.
Posted by: saf at April 15, 2017 06:47 PM (+zN6H)
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