Sunday Night Overnight Open Thread (9/11/16) [Mis. Hum.]

New York City's World Trade Center (WTC) was a complex of 7 buildings and opened for business on April 4, 1973. The "Twin Towers", 1 World Trade Center was 1,368 feet tall, 2 World Trade Center was 1,362 feet tall. At that time they were the tallest buildings in the world. Little did the architects and contractors know that their creation would be a target of destruction.


On February 26, 1993, a rented truck containing approximately 1,300 pounds of nitrate-hydrogen gas enhanced bomb laced with cyanide was driven to the WTC. It was parked in a garage beneath 2 WTC building. The truck bomb exploded at 12:18 PM. The explosion left a crater 200 feet by 100 feet. As a result of this explosion, 6 people were killed and over 1,000 injured.


There were a number of terrorists responsible for this attack. 6 of the 7 directly charged are currently in U.S. prisons.

The devastation was a calling card left by Islamic terrorists.The WTC was repaired. On March 29, 1993 the WTC re-opens.


Fast forward 8 years and 197 days.

At 8:46 AM September 11, 2001 hijacked American Airlines Flight 11 is flown into the north tower of the WTC.

At 9:03 AM United Airlines Flight 175, another hijacked flight, is flown into the south tower of the WTC.


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Unable to retreat from floors above the plane strikes numerous occupants fall to their deaths.

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American Airlines Flight 77 the third flight hijacked that morning hit the Pentagon.


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The 4th and final plane hijacked that morning was United Airlines Flight 93. It is believed that the intended target was the U.S. Capitol. This plane crashed at 10:03 AM near Shanksville, Pa. after passengers attempted to take control from the hijackers.

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Flight 93 Memorial.


2,996 people were killed and over 6,000 were injured 15 years ago. 265 perished on the 4 planes. 125 died at the Pentagon and 2,606 in and around the WTC.


The excuses and rationalization for these attacks over the years have been amazing. One of the the excuses is that those "poor" middle eastern folks are poor and uneducated.

The master mind of Al Qeda, Osama bin Laden certainly didn't fit into that category.

Using the fruits of his family's success - a personal fortune estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars - he developed Al Qaeda into a militant trans-national network.


As the years roll by the conspiracy theories abound. Another reason to avoid FaceBook.


Make no mistake about what drives these people. It is hate. It is hate for everything Western. Rumiyah, Islamic State's online magazine, refers to Australia as "a land cloaked in darkness and corrupted by kufr, fornication, and all forms of vice."

How do you win in the arena of ideas when these people want to conquer or kill you?

The next time someone tells you that Islam is the Religion of Peace. You respond by telling them that they have been striking at the West for 1400 years.


Today's date is now known National Day of Service

In case you missed Ace and Weirddave covering this story. Who the hell thought this was a good idea? Who the hell thought this was funny? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. This.


Tonight's ONT brought to you by Love of Country.


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1 And yet the Muslims still have not paid for this outrage.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:14 PM (SRKgf)

2 Hi ONT.
Thank you MisHum

Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:14 PM (6IPEM)

3 2nd!!!!

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 10:14 PM (3hIZX)

4 Fourth!!!!

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 10:14 PM (3hIZX)

5 hi

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at September 11, 2016 10:14 PM (R5HRU)

6 Always remember - never forget.

Posted by: Dear Departed at September 11, 2016 10:15 PM (gwG9s)

7 How do you win in the arena of ideas when these people want to conquer or kill you?


You don't. You them - all of them - first.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:15 PM (SRKgf)

8 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12490

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 11, 2016 10:16 PM (vBeA5)

9 Evening all.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 11, 2016 10:16 PM (heN73)

10 This must have been a hard ONT to write up

Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:16 PM (6IPEM)

11 Deplorable men raising Old Glory.......Hillary will end their deplorable love of Country.

Posted by: !Deplorable Lives Matter! at September 11, 2016 10:17 PM (RO6kX)

12 'Lo, 'rons.....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 11, 2016 10:17 PM (EzgxV)

13 Islam is no longer our main enemy per se, our main enemy is an elite wedded to a suicidal combination of globalism and multiculturalism.

They must be stopped.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 10:18 PM (+lv+r)

14 Still angry.



Newspeople were announcing the new Syrian Peace deal and mentioning the 500,000 dead. I found an upside to that little tidbit of news.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:19 PM (uFqpT)

15 Islam is no longer our main enemy per se, our main enemy is an elite wedded to a suicidal combination of globalism and multiculturalism.

They must be stopped.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 10:18 PM (+lv+r)

Our greatest enemy is other Americans. Specifically, Progressive scum Americans.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 11, 2016 10:20 PM (heN73)

16 @15

You speak the truth.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 10:21 PM (+lv+r)

17 10 This must have been a hard ONT to write up
Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:16 PM (6IPEM)

Hi Elle. It was. Most ONTs are usually pretty light and fun. Just couldn't create one that was silly and fun.

Damn Progs haven't learned anything from history, Munich & NYC for example.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 10:23 PM (voOPb)

18 Never forgive. Never forget.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 11, 2016 10:23 PM (0mRoj)

19 13
Islam is no longer our main enemy per se, our main enemy is an elite
wedded to a suicidal combination of globalism and multiculturalism.



They must be stopped.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 10:18 PM (+lv+r)


The enemy within is almost always more dangerous than the enemy without.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 11, 2016 10:23 PM (HalrA)

20 Fire doesn't melt steel. Ellen agrees.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at September 11, 2016 10:24 PM (gwG9s)

21 Howdy, ONT.......

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 10:25 PM (y8GsO)

22 16 @15

You speak the truth.

Posted by: Kreplach


Yep. There is nothing necessary about the continuing terror attacks in this country since 9/11. They could have easily been prevented were it not for their prog scum enablers. The Tsarnaevs should never have been granted citizenship. Leftard Americans are truly the greater threat.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 10:25 PM (dtWKK)

23 Our greatest danger is having a president who is willing to ride it out.. go with the flow.. King Putt has done nothing.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 11, 2016 10:25 PM (UpGcq)

24 If a pic of one of the jumpers had to be posted, it should have been the one of the couple holding hands...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki, Certified Deplorable at September 11, 2016 10:25 PM (kP16F)

25 Evening. How are My fellow Deplorables ?

Posted by: donna at September 11, 2016 10:26 PM (O2RFr)

26 Well done, Mis Hum...


Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 10:26 PM (Enq6K)

27 Is that WTC flag still missing? I know it was for years.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 10:27 PM (y8GsO)

28 15 years later both Iran and North Korea are well on their way to having nuclear bombs.

Posted by: ALH at September 11, 2016 10:28 PM (Z56vq)

29 Are the people who jumped included in the death toll?

I always assumed so, but I guess I never thought to investigate it

Posted by: TickledPink at September 11, 2016 10:28 PM (F5hTl)

30 Next time anything happens, Medina.

Then the moon rock.

Then we get really nasty.

All muzzies understand is force. Being nice to them only cause them to further violence.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at September 11, 2016 10:28 PM (6N+OU)

31 When Spain had the terrorist attack in Madrid, they promptly voted in a Muslim sympathizer.

Seven years later, America did the same thing.

Now we are worried about transgendered bathrooms while terrorists are being shipped in from Syria by the President at record pace.

Sad.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:29 PM (tvyXw)

32
Prayers for the fallen
Ammo for the warriors
Never forget
Never forgive

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 11, 2016 10:29 PM (LuZz8)

33 What a weird, surreal day it was.
A lot of mixed emotions for me.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:29 PM (6IPEM)

34
Never forget.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 10:30 PM (5o5ek)

35 Well done Mis Hum. Thanks.


Will never forget Todd Beamer and his compatriots on Flight 93.

Let's Roll


I'll leave y'all to it tonight.


Endeavor to Persevere!!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 11, 2016 10:30 PM (mvenn)

36 Sadly, 9/11 was the most successful attack islam ever carried out. Since then, they have gone from pretty much silent in America to building mosques liek they were going out of style. muslim immigration to America has shot through the roof. muslims have been given free reign to attack anyone, anywhere and Western elites bend themselves into pretzels trying to defend islam. A guy named hussein was put into the Oval Office - twice - even after being both ineligible and unqualified and having the most pathetic (not to mention criminal) first term one can imagine.

It's truly sad (and pathetic) but that's how things have played out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 10:31 PM (zc3Db)

37 I have mentioned before that my ex BIL's cousin was a NYC cop for many years and lost friends and coworkers on 9/11. She will not talk about that day.

She has moved back to Wisconsin to care for her mother, but visits NY frequently. She loves Trump and says all the cops do too.

They despise Hillary and hate, hate, hate DeBlasio.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 10:31 PM (P8951)

38 Why hasn't the JEF freed the 1993 terrorists? What makes them so special?

Posted by: torabora at September 11, 2016 10:31 PM (Lh0b8)

39 "Are the people who jumped included in the death toll?"


I would think they would have to be. They went into that building that morning and did not survive.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 10:31 PM (y8GsO)

40 I work with a guy who was on the 23rd floor that day and said the most horrific thing was the sound of the bodies hitting the ground.

He was tearing up all day today.

Bastards!

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 10:32 PM (+lv+r)

41 Fuck 'em, up the ass, with a large wood pole, in front of their friends.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at September 11, 2016 10:32 PM (IqgQx)

42 I watched United 93 last night. I'm still pissed about what happened, probably even more pissed about the pusillanimous reactions to it, because we ought to know better.

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 10:32 PM (C47HG)

43
What a weird, surreal day it was.
A lot of mixed emotions for me.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:29 PM (6IPEM)
---------------

Dig it. I got my hiney out of bed early, drove 45 minutes to a memorial ceremony that started at 7:46 a.m., came home, and found Hillary in the curb. Not that it's all about me, but it has been a day of unexpected twists and turns.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 10:33 PM (5o5ek)

44
Just stay away from hillary's hamper of horribles.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 11, 2016 10:33 PM (ODxAs)

45 Projection, thy name is Progressive.

Progressive thy party is Democrat.

And as Ralph Cramden said to Trixie Norton,

"If the shoe fits, take it off."

Posted by: 80's music fan at September 11, 2016 10:33 PM (PHcLa)

46 islam is incompatible with western civilization. PERIOD.

So the deplorable said, so it is written.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at September 11, 2016 10:33 PM (6N+OU)

47 Never forgive. Never forget.

Shit. One out of two?

Posted by: Hillary! at September 11, 2016 10:33 PM (mxCgt)

48 I hope I live to see it. One of the most important goals I hope to see happen in this country is a thorough cleaning of our colleges and universities, one in which the leftist, anti-American professors lose their jobs for good.

I'm not optimistic in seeing this happen but I always hold out the hope.

Posted by: Sasquatch the Original trans-Wookie at September 11, 2016 10:34 PM (saE69)

49 Are the people who jumped included in the death toll?

I always assumed so, but I guess I never thought to investigate it
Posted by: TickledPink at September 11, 2016 10:28 PM (F5hTl)

Yes. Plus the article I read the other day said the medical examiner had to rule on the CoD of all the dead, and the jumpers were not ruled as suicides because they were forced to jump by the acts of their murderers. Shudder.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 10:34 PM (ozZau)

50 Make no mistake about what drives these people. It is hate. It is hate for everything Western.

And so-called "Western" leaders have opened the floodgates for Islamic immigration. This is the greatest act of treason in human history. I keep asking, how many of them are secret converts?

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2016 10:34 PM (sdi6R)

51 I can clearly remember almost everything about that day.

It doesn't seem so long ago.

It's a shock to me that my niece, born a year after 9/11 (on the 7th - her parents were praying she would not be late and arrive on the 1 year anniversary of the attack) is now a freshman in hs.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 10:34 PM (P8951)

52 Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:29 PM (tvyXw)

In case you didn't see my last reply to you last night re: moving to Texas, I came here from the Detroit area. Was there 25 years before I got here. Got sick of the Democrats, unions and crybaby GOPers myself, and bailed. Here I am.

If I can do it, anybody can.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 11, 2016 10:34 PM (heN73)

53
The really pitiless, mean, vengeful part of my character thinks we should name September 11th as "National Nuke The Barbarians Day" where we just keep irradiating the rubble in Mecca on an annual basis, while setting up outdoor big screen TVs next to the tailgate party for the live broadcast.

The more civilized part of me thinks we should exercise restraint, and just use the one nuke.



Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 11, 2016 10:35 PM (LuZz8)

54 Dare I ask what LGF posted today? Has it completely jumped the shark?

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 10:35 PM (C47HG)

55 39 Why hasn't the JEF freed the 1993 terrorists? What makes them so special?
Posted by: torabora at September 11, 2016 10:31 PM (Lh0b

Don't give him any ideas.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 10:35 PM (voOPb)

56 @42

Like I said, I assumed so.

I just wasn't sure if there were some idiots that minced words and considered the jumpers "suicides," as a technicality.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 11, 2016 10:35 PM (F5hTl)

57 And so-called "Western" leaders have opened the floodgates for Islamic
immigration. This is the greatest act of treason in human history. I
keep asking, how many of them are secret converts?
---

If you search "Muslims in Obama Administration," well, it seems like there's quite a few.

As in "taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood."

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:36 PM (tvyXw)

58 "What a weird, surreal day it was. "



It was. I lived at the end of a runway at DFW at the time. I had gotten up late didn't realize anything was going on. I got a phone call friend telling to "get away from the fcuking airport" to quote. I flipped on the TV and in just a minute or two the second one hit.

The gasps and silence of the on-air folks was biting.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 10:37 PM (y8GsO)

59 "Rumiyah, Islamic State's online magazine, refers to Australia as 'a land
cloaked in darkness and corrupted by kufr, fornication, and all forms
of vice.'"

::: discreetly checks air fares to Sydney :::

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 10:37 PM (noWW6)

60 The picture of the American flag draped over the Pentagon, with military member and fire fighters saluting it while the building was still smoking, still moves me. I can't find a good one or I would post it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 11, 2016 10:37 PM (2qfyT)

61 @49

I'm glad to hear that.

Not glad it happened, of course, but you know what I mean.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 11, 2016 10:37 PM (F5hTl)

62 At least the flag got returned. Hope they find the mysterious person of interest. The story will be interesting.

Proudly extended my personal record of not catching fish this weekend. I will not bore you with the story of how she who shall remain nameless caught a 12 inch rainbow trout trolling a dry fly while moving to a new cast location.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 11, 2016 10:37 PM (FtrY1)

63 I work with a guy who was on the 23rd floor that day and said the most horrific thing was the sound of the bodies hitting the ground.
...

There's a video from that day that has that sound on it. It's unforgettable. I can't imagine being there, much less seeing and hearing it in person. Holy cow.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 10:37 PM (ozZau)

64 Yes. Plus the article I read the other day said the medical examiner had to rule on the CoD of all the dead, and the jumpers were not ruled as suicides because they were forced to jump by the acts of their murderers. Shudder.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 10:34 PM (ozZau)


Nobody knew who any of the jumpers were. Not more than a handful, at least. There was a movie made about one guy - The Falling Man - and it was a reporters attempts to identify one person. He made many mistakes along the way and I'm not entirely convinced that he ever found out the guy's real identity.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 10:37 PM (zc3Db)

65 My heart goes out to the survivors of all those who died on that day.

The House has passed a bill allowing them to sue Saudi Arabia, and although Obama is thinking of vetoing it, there are enough votes to override his veto, the first time that has ever happened during his presidency.

Also, two of the family members of those killed at Benghazi have filed suit against Hillary, and she hasn't bothered to have her lawyers respond. They may win by default.

Lots of good news, finally.

Posted by: ALH at September 11, 2016 10:38 PM (Z56vq)

66 I can clearly remember almost everything about that day.



It doesn't seem so long ago.



It's a shock to me that my niece, born a year after 9/11 (on the 7th
- her parents were praying she would not be late and arrive on the 1
year anniversary of the attack) is now a freshman in hs.

Posted by: DonnaV. deplorably brandishing
ampersandsso there at September 11, 2016 10:34 PM
(P8951)

So can I. We lived in CT at the time and my husband worked in Manhattan. He had taken the day off but our kids left for school and didn't know he was at home. I'll never forget their voices when their schools allowed them to call home.

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 10:38 PM (Enq6K)

67 Hillary called to tell us our jingoistic talk is deplorable. Then she had a seizure and the phone hit the floor. Justice.

Posted by: MTF at September 11, 2016 10:39 PM (/m8T6)

68 The "National Day of Service" infuriates me. Maybe I missed it - Did Obama mention this in his final 9-11 statement like he usually does?

Obama tries to make every holiday a national day of service. Thanksgiving? Go work in a food kitchen and "give back". 9-11? Go clean up an inner-city park or paint a school.

It's intentional, attempting to tell us we should be tolerant on a day we need to remember, especially the anger.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2016 10:39 PM (NOIQH)

69 Charles Johnson is a case study in what happens when you sit on a bicycle seat post whilst snapping pictures of tug boats.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 10:39 PM (+lv+r)

70 "The gasps and silence of the on-air folks was biting."

Perhaps in honor of Fedzilla's perpetual ineptitude at the basic governmental task of ensuring things like this don't happen, they should have instead blurted out the immortal newscaster "Keep on fucking that chicken" line.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 10:39 PM (noWW6)

71 48
I hope I live to see it. One of the most important goals I hope to see
happen in this country is a thorough cleaning of our colleges and
universities, one in which the leftist, anti-American professors lose
their jobs for good.



I'm not optimistic in seeing this happen but I always hold out the hope.

Posted by: Sasquatch the Original trans-Wookie at September 11, 2016 10:34 PM (saE69)


I'm working on something that I think will help. I've thought everything through and I'm thrilled with my ideas. We'll see how it goes....

Since I knew I'd be attacked by the SJW crowd anyways, I've decided to go all out and piss them off as much as I can while bringing great value to others. I have nothing to lose.



Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:39 PM (uFqpT)

72 But the important question...how did that mattress sale go?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 11, 2016 10:39 PM (kumBu)

73
Dare I ask what LGF posted today? Has it completely jumped the shark?
Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 10:35 PM (C47HG)
--------------------

It's jumped so far that I saw one of Cahrles's tweets quoted at Daily Kos today. The meme about this making Hillary more sympathetic and admirable. Yup, it's a thing among those people.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 10:40 PM (5o5ek)

74 9/11 was my first What Were You Doing When You Heard The News moment.

I was asleep and had a friend call me and tell me to turn on Fox News. I never turned off the TV for 3 weeks after that.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:40 PM (6IPEM)

75 @68

Says the man who's done jack and shit his entire miserable dog eating life.

God I hate that asshole.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 10:40 PM (+lv+r)

76 good evening
what another sad anniversary

Posted by: chemjeff at September 11, 2016 10:40 PM (uAvJJ)

77 September 11th comes up often in the Long War between the West & islam.

9/11/1565 - the Turks lost the siege of Malta, and their bid to control the western Mediterreanean
9/11/1683 - The Turks lost the siege of Vienna, and the "Great War" against the Ottoman Empire began
9/11/1695 - The Turks lost the Battle of Zenta, which marked the effective end of the war
9/11/1877 - The Turks beat back the Russians at the battle of Plevna, but lost the subsequent siege, and with it, nearly all their European territory
9/11/1923 - The Turks burn the Greek city of Smyrna, up to 100,000 Christians died in the fire that lasted 3 days.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 10:40 PM (7qAYi)

78 @ Jukin,#30.

We're of the same mind. With apologies to Mis Hum, who very somberly and respectfully posted tonight's heartfelt ONT, I'll ask whoever feels like taking a moment, to click on where I left a comment this morning, which pre-mirror's Jukin's, but expands on it a bit, as well.

Of course, this brought a response from a butt-hurt muzzie out there, and of course you know, I could not leave the gauntlet there, untouched and unresponded. So, I did.

Here's the post and thread:

http://neanderpundit.com/?p=7923

Plus, Og (the host there) is a Good Guy, and a blogger from the old days, who has never faltered in his steadfast goodness. Even though he doesn't comment here, he's a Moron in every right way of the word.

So, I don't mind asking y'all to make his sitemeter spin off the pin, just this once?

The exchange was too much to copy n' paste here, too. Got a 505 error when I tried, even edited.

Anyway, good thought, Jukin. Good thought.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 11, 2016 10:41 PM (v5iqM)

79 The attackers were predominantly Saudi, as everyone probably recalls. I'm sure the Wahabi imams were shocked anyone took their teachings literally and they probably modified their invective.

Not.

Posted by: MTF at September 11, 2016 10:41 PM (/m8T6)

80 But the important question...how did that mattress sale go?

A towering success.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2016 10:41 PM (rwI+c)

81 9/11/1565 - the Turks lost the siege of Malta, and their bid to control the western Mediterreanean
9/11/1683 - The Turks lost the siege of Vienna, and the "Great War" against the Ottoman Empire began
9/11/1695 - The Turks lost the Battle of Zenta, which marked the effective end of the war


Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 10:40 PM (7qAYi)


Julian or Gregorian?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 10:41 PM (zc3Db)

82 What, you people still bitching about this?

Don't make me bring up the Crusades again!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at September 11, 2016 10:42 PM (fgOnp)

83 Yep. There is nothing necessary about the continuing terror attacks in this country since 9/11. They could have easily been prevented were it not for their prog scum enablers. The Tsarnaevs should never have been granted citizenship. Leftard Americans are truly the greater threat.
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 10:25 PM (dtWKK)


And those who do manage to perpetrate such outrages should be executed forthwith. That Tsarnaev and Hasan are still breathing is a crime.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:42 PM (SRKgf)

84 I'm watching a History Channel special right now about how the flag in that photo was replaced with a phony then then the phony traveled the world without anyone knowing it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 11, 2016 10:42 PM (SEXy3)

85 And those who do manage to perpetrate such outrages should be executed forthwith. That Tsarnaev and Hasan are still breathing is a crime.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:42 PM (SRKgf)


Hear, hear!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 10:42 PM (zc3Db)

86 Re "the enemy within" I've long stopped thinking of them as loyal opposition, folks who just disagree, etc. They consider us enemies, and they get a vote. I suggest we do they same and comport ourselves accordingly.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 11, 2016 10:43 PM (sqpGi)

87 57
If you search "Muslims in Obama Administration," well, it seems like there's quite a few.

As in "taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood."
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:36 PM (tvyXw)


Muslim immigration INCREASED after 9/11 during the BUSH administration. And let's not even get into Europe.

This sickness, treason, or insanity--call it what you will-- is not limited to Obama and the Democrats. I wish it were. It would be easier to fix.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2016 10:43 PM (sdi6R)

88 By the way, those that jumped in addition to all those who perished in other ways on 9/11 are listed as "homicides". There was talk in some circles of having the jumpers listed as "suicides" but the ME stopped that right quick.

Fuck Islam!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at September 11, 2016 10:44 PM (lQqij)

89 I was working at a local tv station at the time.

So, so horrific.

To this day I can't watch the people jumping.

The other thing that ripped me apart inside were the people looking for their loved ones- all of the posters, with pictures of loved ones who were never found. THAT upsets me to this day as well.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:44 PM (tvyXw)

90
Called my wife and said " you might want to watch this".



Also -

Who was the Facebook dipshit that donated several million to Hillary last week?

HA ha , mfkr.

Posted by: Mortimer - deplorably drunk at September 11, 2016 10:45 PM (zu88C)

91 73


Dare I ask what LGF posted today? Has it completely jumped the shark?

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 10:35 PM (C47HG)


I actually went there. There were less than 100 comments on the BIGGEST news story of the year.


The first thread here mentioning Hillary's collapse had over 1200 comments, 1500 on another, a Yahoo Canada story had 9000 comments, HotAir had over 200 comments which seems like a lot for them these days.




And the pop-up at LGF asking for donations as soon as you arrive at the site just encourages visitors, I'm sure.



In a way, it is sad, because after 9/11 I was looking a Muslim hate site and found that place, which rocked back then.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:45 PM (uFqpT)

92 I can't remember a day that I felt such a conflict of emotion. Anger coupled with sadness and grief with such sense of loss and an awareness that the world changed that day permanently for our country.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:45 PM (6IPEM)

93 Daughter H was in the Pentagon that day and had walked through that area not ten minutes before the plane hit. I left work drove home and Mrs H and i tried to confirm her status without success (basically no local phone service) until my son in Florida called to say that she had been able to get a call out of the DC area to him and was OK and he relayed that to me. She came by the house later when she was able to get away much to our joy.

I will Never Forget, and I will Never Forgive!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (wCEn4)

94 And it was that dumbfuck Bush that started Islam is a religion of peace bullshit.

I'd say after the Kennedies, the Bushs have got to be the most destructive political family.

Papa begat the rapist and the lesser begat the SCOAMF.

Two incompetents and two fucking disasters of Presidents.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (+lv+r)

95 I've had the TV on in the background all day, and laze about watching quite a bit. Checked tvguide.com often thought the day.

Not a peep about 9-11. Not one word. On over two dozen channels that I get with the rabbit ears. Not even PBS. Despicable.

Posted by: Chi at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (5Erk9)

96 In a way, it is sad, because after 9/11 I was looking a Muslim hate site and found that place, which rocked back then.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:45 PM (uFqpT)



May the MSM follow LGF into irrelevance.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (SRKgf)

97 In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging.

Should the political winds shift in an ugly direction, I will stand with Muslims.

If we fail to let the terrorists win, then the terrorists will have won!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (fgOnp)

98 80
But the important question...how did that mattress sale go?



from my post on the other thread....


The mattress store people should take advantage of this situation by
filming a commercial for their "Post 9/11 near death Presidential
Candidate Sale" with a Bill Clinton look a like lovingly placing a
deathlike Hillary on one of their comfortable, affordable mattresses.


They can only go up....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (uFqpT)

99 81 - Julian, I think.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (7qAYi)

100 Not a peep about 9-11. Not one word. On over two dozen channels that I get with the rabbit ears. Not even PBS. Despicable.

Posted by: Chi at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (5Erk9)



Deplorable, even.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:47 PM (SRKgf)

101 74 9/11 was my first What Were You Doing When You Heard The News moment.


At work as a Fed Contractor (State Dept.). Saw the planes hit WTC on TV. Walked back to my office, co worker got another TV somewhere, turned it on and saw the Pentagon in flames. Gathered my stuff, the alarms went off at DoS, and got the hell out of there. Eventually got home by subway. The station at the Pentagon was closed but you could smell the burning. Got home, got a beer, and sat on my balcony. It was so quiet. I live near a metro station, near the beltway, and there is always air traffic here. Not that day. It was quiet.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 11, 2016 10:48 PM (2qfyT)

102 The mattress store people should take advantage of this situation by
filming a commercial for their "Post 9/11 near death Presidential
Candidate Sale" with a Bill Clinton look a like lovingly placing a
deathlike Hillary on one of their comfortable, affordable mattresses.
They can only go up....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (uFqpT)



They should have a dead pool for Hillary. Guess the day on which she croaks, and you get mattresses for the price of one!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:48 PM (SRKgf)

103 81 - Julian, I think.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (7qAYi)


It was really a bit of a joke from a couple of threads ago.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 10:48 PM (zc3Db)

104 >>What do the blacks give back? Their EBT cards? The least they could do
is clean up their own goddamned inner city park, over which they strew
trash.

Never liked "give back" because it assumes you were given something and owe it to give back to someone else. Almost every holiday statement Obama has made is about being tolerant, giving back, our duty to take care of others and how all religions are the same blah blah blah. Well, except for his Eid message, of course.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2016 10:48 PM (NOIQH)

105
Notice how the media didn't bring up today Trump's claim that muslims celebrated in NY/NJ on 9/11.

Because it's true.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:48 PM (8LCz6)

106 "And it was that dumbfuck Bush that started Islam is a religion of peace bullshit."

You may rest assured that the reason why you've never seen replays of the more horrifying live video from that day is precisely because of the Bushes trying to mollify their longtime Gulf Arab patrons.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM (noWW6)

107 National Geographic did an excellent documentary, "Inside 9-11" some years ago. Recommended, provided you have enough blood pressure medicine.

Today, I doubt such a film could be made, unless it started with "America deserved it."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM (AroJD)

108
Today's date is now known National Day of Service

----------------------

Something else Trump needs to change before the next one rolls around.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM (5o5ek)

109 Before 9/11, muslims went pretty much unnoticed in society & by politicians.
You never saw muslim holidays on calendars before 9/11.
Before 9/11, islamic terrorists were a stock villain in movies.

9/11 worked out pretty well for them.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM (7qAYi)

110 Should the political winds shift in an ugly direction, I will stand with Muslims.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (fgOnp)



Hey, Clem, we'll need one more rope! We've got another customer!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM (SRKgf)

111 Notice how the media didn't bring up today Trump's claim that muslims celebrated in NY/NJ on 9/11.

Because it's true.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:48 PM (8LCz6)


And they NEVER show the footage of the palis handing out candy and celebrating.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM (zc3Db)

112 This sickness, treason, or insanity--call it what you will-- is not limited to Obama and the Democrats. I wish it were. It would be easier to fix.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2016 10:43 PM (sdi6R)


Frankly, I've never stopped blaming Bush for the incompetent way he conducted almost every aspect of the ME conflict, but the Democrats were (surprise) even worse.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM (wCEn4)

113 I celebrate when Western newspeople die...usually with chocolate.



I learned that from the Palestinians on 9/11. See, maybe I'm not such an Islamophobic knuckle-dragger after all.....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:50 PM (uFqpT)

114 Does anybody remember when LGF highlighted "Tillies' story" a gripping account of a regular's experience on 9/11. She worked in Tower 2 and wrote of seeing the plane hit Tower 1, of taking the stairs all the way down, of seeing the 2nd tower fall and trying desperately to reach her apartment. She also wrote of the coworkers who were lost.

It was a permanent link on the sidebar there until the vindictive shit erased it, along with all the other things that once made that site worthwhile.

I remember Tillie made her way back to her hometown in Missippissi.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 10:50 PM (P8951)

115
A bunch of irredeemable reprobates, we are!

And deplorables.

But I like Reprobates, better.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:51 PM (8LCz6)

116 "...FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging"

Yeah, tell me about it!

Posted by: Hillary at September 11, 2016 10:51 PM (fgOnp)

117 A bunch of irredeemable reprobates, we are!

And deplorables.

But I like Reprobates, better.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:51 PM (8LCz6)

****

See my proud NIC.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 10:51 PM (YLidQ)

118 "To this day I can't watch the people jumping.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:44 PM (tvyXw) "

I have tried to put myself in the shoes of the guy who took the "Falling Man" picture.

On one hand, it's such an awful image - it encapsulates the hopelessness of those trapped in the building. It's raw, visceral...you want to look away in horror.

But the photographer was also helpless to do anything about it. He did the only thing he could - memorialize the last moments of a man who had to make a terrible, unfathomable choice. Preserve that moment for history, to help us never forget how monstrous this event truly was.

Side note: The AP photog who took that picture, Richard Drew, was also present at RFK's assassination. He certainly seems to have lived an interesting, if somewhat star-crossed, life.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 11, 2016 10:52 PM (kumBu)

119
There is nothing necessary about the continuing terror attacks in this country since 9/11. They could have easily been prevented were it not for their prog scum enablers.
Posted by: Yuimetal




Sure don't remember many Shinto-American terrorist attacks 15 years after Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 10:52 PM (kdS6q)

120
The other thing that ripped me apart inside were the people looking for their loved ones- all of the posters, with pictures of loved ones who were never found. THAT upsets me to this day as well.
---------------------

I'll never forget those people either. News anchors were being good to them, giving them time to hold up a picture of their loved one and give a name and where they should be and ask for information. I'll never forget one guy who looked absolutely drained and torn between hanging onto the last thread of hope and surrendering to despair, holding a picture of his wife.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 10:52 PM (5o5ek)

121 Sort of OT:

Hillary has a body double. Outed in the Daily Mail in the UK in July- her name is Theresa Barnwell.

Betcha we saw her today.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:52 PM (tvyXw)

122 A bunch of irredeemable reprobates, we are!

And deplorables.

But I like Reprobates, better.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 10:51 PM (8LCz6)



I think it's better to echo Hillary's exact word, and call ourselves the "Old Deplorables," to mirror the "Old Contemptibles" of WWI.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:52 PM (SRKgf)

123 My neighbor's husband was in the first tower struck....above the strike. He was able to call her and she drove to her kids' schools so they could talk to their father.

He was an amateur hockey player, and a few months later we attended a fundraiser hockey game to raise money for her kids' education. Some of the NY Rangers came and played.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2016 10:54 PM (Zu3d9)

124 Yes. Plus the article I read the other day said the
medical examiner had to rule on the CoD of all the dead, and the jumpers
were not ruled as suicides because they were forced to jump by the acts
of their murderers. Shudder.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 10:34 PM (ozZau)


One of my college professors was a friend of a Bishop or Cardinal who had to give Mass for some of the 9/11 jumpers, and helped him write the sermons for it. They reached the same conclusion, that it couldn't be called suicide, because they were stuck in a no-win situation due to the actions of their murderers. He distributed a copy of the sermon for us to read, I believe on the first 9/11 anniversary. It was really something.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 11, 2016 10:54 PM (HalrA)

125 According to Dubya, al-Qaeda hates us for our freedom. Shouldn't they only mildly dislike us now?

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 11, 2016 10:54 PM (ggtda)

126 The other thing that ripped me apart inside were the people looking for their loved ones- all of the posters, with pictures of loved ones who were never found. THAT upsets me to this day as well.
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 10:44 PM (tvyXw)

Yeah. Those tattered posters, with the photos of the loved missing ones, smiling and happy, just tore me up too.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 10:55 PM (P8951)

127
110 Before 9/11, muslims went pretty much unnoticed in society & by politicians.
You never saw muslim holidays on calendars before 9/11.
-------------------

George and Laura hosted the first White House Eid el Futr dinner after 9/11. I hope Trump ends that tradition.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 10:55 PM (5o5ek)

128 >>>Hillary has a body double.

Eeewww i just threw up a little in my mouth

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 10:56 PM (voOPb)

129
But the important question...how did that mattress sale go?

...

They closed down for at least the next few days.

I might have time to drive over there tomorrow, and I have to be in the vicinity of it Tues. anyway so I can check.

But it's a mattress store. A family owned mattress store. Not sure it's worth the effort even for a driveby look.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 10:56 PM (ozZau)

130 Does anyone remember the name of the standup comic/comedy writer who realized after 9/11 that liberals really did hate America? I can't recall who it was.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 11, 2016 10:56 PM (nlpeo)

131 "Sure don't remember many Shinto-American terrorist attacks 15 years after Pearl Harbor."

It would have been incredibly funny if in some alternate reality there had been a Republican president other than the hapless Dubya.

Who after 9/11 had announced that he was immediately and totally halting all immigration of Muslims, and interning in remote interior camps all Muslims currently in the USA.

Citing as specific policy precedent for that action what the great Democratic hero Franklin D. Roosevelt had done with Japanese immigrants during WWII.

Wouldn't *that* have been a firecracker in the henhouse?

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 10:56 PM (noWW6)

132 Frankly, I've never stopped blaming Bush for the incompetent way he conducted almost every aspect of the ME conflict, but the Democrats were (surprise) even worse.
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM
******
Same here.
He just delegated everything to Rumsfeld and Cheney and then just checked out. He was given tremendous benefit of the doubt by both parties, nearly everyone, going into that.

He squandered all that trust and good will.
Only to watch Barky outdo him in the area of incompetence, laziness, and foolishness


Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:57 PM (6IPEM)

133 That reminds me, time to check on Chuckles' GFM campaign.

His goal is 10k and he set up the campaign about 16 months ago.

Today his campaign is at, *drumroll*, $4,739. Over a year in and he's still not half way.

Back in the old days, before Chuckles went insane, he'd probably have met that goal in a month, tops.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 11, 2016 10:57 PM (cC/ZB)

134 "And they NEVER show the footage of the palis handing out candy and celebrating.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM (zc3Db) "

Remember the pictures of Americans dancing and celebrating after hearing about Hiroshima, or the Bhopal disaster, or the Indonesian tsunami? Oh, right, we don't do that. My bad.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (kumBu)

135 130 >>>Hillary has a body double.
Eeewww i just threw up a little in my mouth
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 10:56 PM (voOPb)



Imagine the scene when they were casting a Hillary body double:

"We've decided you're the perfect body double for Hillary Clinton."

"I am not! I'm just retaining water! Take that back!"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (SRKgf)

136

Also the anniversary og benghazi


Well well well

Dan Abrams at lawnewz.com has penned a column. About how to dump Hillary. Cites DNC bylaws, Article 2 Section 7

New nominee is selected by a special meeting of the DNC

Didn't I hear they were meeting tonight

Is this the night of the long knives?

Posted by: ThunderB at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (TqfuN)

137 Tonight's ONT brought to you by Love of Country.

God bless America.

Bush should have sent Marine delegations with support groups to the ME to impress our concern upon them and eliminate their thoughts of terrorism.

Posted by: gNewt....forever censored at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (c80mr)

138 124 My neighbor's husband was in the first tower struck....above the strike. He was able to call her and she drove to her kids' schools so they could talk to their father.
_______

I can't imagine the pain in doing that.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (voOPb)

139 89 The other thing that ripped me apart inside were the people looking for their loved ones- all of the posters, with pictures of loved ones who were never found. THAT upsets me to this day as well.
=========================

When my neighbor and friend died at the trade center investigators weren't able to find any part of his body to bury. They identified some of his DNA a few years ago, but that's it.

We all try not to get stuck on it though; what's the point? His family is thriving, thank God, which is what would matter most to him and we all remember him vividly and talk about him frequently. His youngest child wrote her college application essay last year about her loving relationship with her father, via her family memories. It just about broke my heart to read it, but it was a happy message she was trying to convey.

Of course, other families in my town weren't so resilient. And some lives have never rebounded from the attack and those terrible days and weeks that followed.

Posted by: MTF at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (/m8T6)

140 I honestly believe the tide is turning.



And we haven't even hit the bursting of the debt bubble yet. The US still owes $90 to $200 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities that will NEVER be paid.



And we think people are pissed off now. Wait until all of the socialist promises turn to dust.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (uFqpT)

141 BTW, the ONLY decent thing the NYT has done in the last half century (at least) was publish those brief biographies of every single person who died in the attacks.

Every murdered victim wasremembered as an individual, with interests, hobbies, loved ones, friends, with no political agenda or bias involved.

For once, the Times did something decent.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 10:59 PM (P8951)

142 "Sure don't remember many Shinto-American terrorist attacks 15 years after Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 11, 2016 10:52 PM (kdS6q) "

Don't let your guard down. When they finally finish perfecting the mech suits, they'll strike back.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 11, 2016 10:59 PM (kumBu)

143 "Theresa Barnwell"


Gosh, she does look a lot like Hillary. Except younger in the pics I can find.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 10:59 PM (y8GsO)

144 I was at work in N. VA and heard about the 1st plane as I went into a meeting. Came out of the meeting and everyone was talking about the second plane as well as the rumors of additional planes out of contact (additional targets). A lot of people I worked with had spouses, etc, in DC, such as SS agent, producer for a cable news network who was freaking out because she was sent to the national mall for a live report. It was crazy with no internet and cell service (overloaded) and not knowing whether to go further west in case more was to come after Pentagon attack (and stay at friends) or attempt heading back home to Arlington. Got home only minutes before they closed 66 and then watched them airlift people from smoking Pentagon from our living room window (was on 18th floor facing DC). Just sat there in disbelief and horror waiting for the next strike, listening to the sirens of numerous emergency vehicles all over the place. We even watched Bush's helicopter arrive at the WH surrounded by 8 (?) other helicopters. Will never forget.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2016 10:59 PM (NOIQH)

145 George and Laura hosted the first White House Eid el Futr dinner after 9/11. I hope Trump ends that tradition.
Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 10:55 PM (5o5ek)



Better to follow a tradition set by Vlad Tepich.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:59 PM (SRKgf)

146
I'm a bit surprised the muslims didn't kill anyone today?

In fact, the muslims havent been killing us lately.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (8LCz6)

147 Cardinals about to take the lead.

Please NBC, don't pan to McLame.

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (C47HG)

148 Well, here's my 9/11 story.

It was my freshman year of college, not even 2 weeks into being away from my family for the first time.

I had an 8-8:50 am class, but I went to breakfast beforehand. The TVs in the dining hall all had different programs on, ESPN, local news, The Today Show. I distinctly remember watching the Today Show and they showed what a beautiful September day it was.

Went to class, which went as usual. We were dismissed a bit late, maybe around 8:52-53 and as we were leaving, another student came in the classroom, and I vaguely heard him talking to the professor about something that had happened, but thought nothing of it.

I walked back to my dorm, and as I walked to my room, I noticed some students gathered in the lounge, watching TV, but I didn't pay attention to what was on the TV. It struck me as odd, as most students had their own TV, so the lounge was rarely used, and that early in the morning, it seemed very, very strange. Again, thought little of it.

When I walked into my room, around 9:00, my roommate had it on. I was there in time to see the second plane crash into the second tower. She left maybe a half hour later, and I went out to the lounge to watch with everyone else, and then news broke about the Pentagon.

I had an 11 o clock biology lab, that I was certain was going to be cancelled. It wasn't. The last coverage I saw was the North tower collapsing.

I remember hearing rumblings about flights being halted, flights currently in the air being re-directed, and major buildings being evacuated. The most distinct feeling I remember, other than grief of course, was how much I wanted to go home, how much I wished I was with my family. I worried about a nuclear bomb, or terrorists targeting a military center near my home.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (F5hTl)

149 Every 9/11 we should unleash hell on a Muslim terrorist target or targets. Planning for the next one should start on every 9/12 . I want them to dread that date.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (MNgU2)

150 I, too, consider the left the much worse enemy. Leftists everywhere think we deserve to be punished, and that's just fine with them. They can mea culpa and virtue signal all over the place because, after all, it's statistically unlikely they or theirs will be among the victims.

The rest of us can just die, as collateral to their stupid America is Bad cause. They figure we have it coming. (For being such deplorables, both individually and as a country.) I really hate them for that. I really do.

Posted by: Alana at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (ASfgM)

151 Until all of those supposedly moderate Muslims who are supposedly integrated into our society come together as a group and state unequivocably that they will work tirelessly to end the murderous reign of their compatriots who are, in fact, doing exactly what their "religion" tell them to by murdering us and ours, I will not trust a single one of them to even clean my toilets, let alone work alongside me or live in my neighborhood. And if that is racist or zenophobic, so be it. No Muslims have paid even an ounce of their blood to atone for the murders of Americans on American soil, let alone the brutal attacks which have taken place overseas.

Police your own, then tell me you belong to a religion of peace. It has yet, over the past 1400 years, to demonstrate even a remote interest in peace or harmony. Until then, fuck them all and may they rest in hell for eternity.

/rant off

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (+YMhA)

152 "That reminds me, time to check on Chuckles' GFM campaign."

I would contribute to a GFY campaign for Cahlres.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (noWW6)

153 *collateral damage

Posted by: Alana at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (ASfgM)

154 Gosh, she does look a lot like Hillary. Except younger in the pics I can find.
--

Yep. And that Daily Mail reports that she quit her job to be Hillary's double.

THAT is who we saw coming out of the apartment today.

/fyi, I got this at a site that makes infowars look like Fox News. But it makes sense.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:01 PM (tvyXw)

155 @141

The sad thing is that the rest of the world is in even worse financial shape.

There is enough real or conjured money to pay of the gargantuan amount of debt floating around the world.

There is going to be a reset.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 11:01 PM (+lv+r)

156
Bush should have sent Marine delegations with support groups to the ME to impress our concern upon them and eliminate their thoughts of terrorism them.

Posted by: gNewt....forever censored at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (c80mr)


FIFY.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:01 PM (SRKgf)

157 He squandered all that trust and good will.

Any admiration I once had for the guy is kaput.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2016 11:01 PM (Tyii7)

158 I guess I'm one of those deplorables. Where's my basket?

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 11, 2016 11:02 PM (+YMhA)

159
What do we know about Martin Shkreli, former CEO of Turing Pharmaceuticals?

According to a CNN reporter: He shouted, "Why are you so sick!" when Hillary Clinton walked out of Chelsea's apartment.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 11:02 PM (5o5ek)

160 Make no mistake about what drives these people. It is hate. It is hate for everything Western.

I would have to respectfully disagree with this. It isn't so much their hate (though they have that) but their thirst for utter power and total domination. That is what the koran outlines more than anything. The drive to take over the world and to make non-muslims sorry they even exist. It isn't specifically anti-Western. It's generally anti-non-muslim, which is even worse.

They are jealous of us because of our strength and because they have been getting their asses kicked over and over and over by a pipsqueak Western nation with so few people that it defies reason. They are shamed by their weakness (as well they should be) and the only way for them to alleviate their shame is through revenge.

But the muzzie thirst for state power and total control has little to do with the West. If the West didn't exist the muzzies would still be attacking every non-muzzie around the same way.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:02 PM (zc3Db)

161 two of the family members of those killed at Benghazi have filed suit against Hillary, and she hasn't bothered to have her lawyers respond.

How fitting.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2016 11:03 PM (w/iDp)

162 Until all of those supposedly moderate Muslims who are supposedly integrated into our society come together as a group


I'll save a booth at the diner for them.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:03 PM (SRKgf)

163 >>>You may rest assured that the reason why you've never seen replays of the more horrifying live video from that day is precisely because of the Bushes trying to mollify their longtime Gulf Arab patrons.


Now with fracking, nobody should have any motive to appease the Muslims. They have no leverage. If only we could have discovered this decades ago.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:03 PM (dtWKK)

164 I wonder why Sharyl Attkinson's website isn't working.

Posted by: Heidi at September 11, 2016 11:04 PM (tsLLe)

165 "We even watched Bush's helicopter arrive at the WH surrounded by 8 (?) other helicopters."

Having seen Obama's aerial motorcade fly past while he's been out here snorking up money from Silly Valley oligarchs, a gaggle of ten-ish rotorcraft is entirely ordinary for him.

Including V-22 Ospreys, one of the most expensive things to fly in the entire Pentagon inventory.

I worked out the cost per flight hour figures. Staggeringly high.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 11:04 PM (noWW6)

166 "Does anyone remember the name of the standup comic/comedy writer who realized after 9/11 that liberals really did hate America? I can't recall who it was.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 11, 2016 10:56 PM (nlpeo) "

I feel like there were more than one. Dennis Miller IIRC was pretty much the type to hit both sides of the aisle until 9/11 made him realize that one side truly was worse.

Maybe Larry Miller, also?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 11, 2016 11:05 PM (kumBu)

167 Very OT:

The "alt right" is now saying that Drudge has a symbol he puts out to alert people that something big is going down. It's this: ' on the top left of the page.

It's there right now.

WTF?

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:05 PM (tvyXw)

168
I've had my fill of Republicans like George Bush. Both of them. And Cheney.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:05 PM (8LCz6)

169 132 Frankly, I've never stopped blaming Bush for the incompetent way he conducted almost every aspect of the ME conflict, but the Democrats were (surprise) even worse.
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2016 10:49 PM
******
Same here.
He just delegated everything to Rumsfeld and Cheney and then just checked out. He was given tremendous benefit of the doubt by both parties, nearly everyone, going into that.

He squandered all that trust and good will.
Only to watch Barky outdo him in the area of incompetence, laziness, and foolishness


Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:57 PM (6IPEM)

Just for the record , I think that's a bunch of bull shit .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at September 11, 2016 11:05 PM (MNgU2)

170 earlier ace said 'I think she's going to drop out -- and Trump can't beat any other person.' but don't you think voters would punish the democrats for switching candidates so late? of course i don't mean dems but the so called 'independents' and liv - who would they replace her with?
(reposted since i lost connection before)

Posted by: anon2020 at September 11, 2016 11:06 PM (yCcA0)

171 133
He squandered all that trust and good will.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 10:57 PM (6IPEM)

Waitaminute...I certainly have big problems with several aspects of Bush's handling of post-9/11, mainly the creation of the Dept of Homeland Security and several aspects of the Patriot Act and the notion of long-term nation-building.

But to say he squandered trust and good will...FEH! There was an enormous segment of this country on the Left that never gave him any trust or good will at all. I was in college when 9/11 happened, and the knives were out for the GOP almost instantly.

And look at the constant obstruction at least from 2003 onwards -- it's a miracle he was able to pull the surge off that left things relatively stable until Obama came in and trashed it all in the name of peace-- the Vietnam story all over again. If the Left in this country hadn't been waiting since the beginning for the slightest misstep, we'd probably have used a heavier hand but be in a much better position now -- Iraq, too.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at September 11, 2016 11:06 PM (L54EB)

172 I was living in Boulder at CU Boulder. The next day in class I remember a professor allowing a Muslim to filibuster and dominate the room on his claim the videos of the Palestinans were faked and old footage. And Muslims across the world love America.

Ugh! *spit*

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:06 PM (H8Bf9)

173 Every 9/11 we should unleash hell on a Muslim terrorist target or targets. Planning for the next one should start on every 9/12 . I want them to dread that date.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (MNgU2)


Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

Posted by: gNewt....forever censored at September 11, 2016 11:07 PM (c80mr)

174 BTW, the ONLY decent thing the NYT has done in the last half century (at least) was publish those brief biographies of every single person who died in the attacks.

Every murdered victim wasremembered as an individual, with interests, hobbies, loved ones, friends, with no political agenda or bias involved.

For once, the Times did something decent.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 10:59 PM (P8951)

yes, my husband brought that paper with him into our marriage, and I read every single one of those bios. I got misty almost everyday reading them.

They were very moving and of course the coverage of the whole event was outstanding.

Then a few years later I cancelled the subscription, and had the pleasure of telling the polite worker on the phone it was because of the traitorous stories they were doing.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 11:07 PM (ozZau)

175
...'....

^

that's my symbol to alert y'all I'm about to make a great comment

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:07 PM (8LCz6)

176 What is still left to be said about TFG that hasn't already been said? He is disgusting.


http://tinyurl.com/gvpml6z

Posted by: MTF at September 11, 2016 11:07 PM (/m8T6)

177 Does anyone remember the name of the standup comic/comedy writer who realized after 9/11 that liberals really did hate America? I can't recall who it was.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 11, 2016 10:56 PM (nlpeo)


Evan Sayet

(And David Mamet also, but he's not the one you were asking about).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:08 PM (zc3Db)

178
God love you, all those who still defend the Bushes. God love ya.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:08 PM (8LCz6)

179 Rick Rescorla

Posted by: Deplorable Man at September 11, 2016 11:08 PM (wNJkU)

180 that's my symbol to alert y'all I'm about to make a great comment

It's your ASCII equivalent of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2016 11:08 PM (rwI+c)

181 @168

Yeah, that whole crew, sans Bolton, needs to blow away.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 11:08 PM (+lv+r)

182 The "alt right" is now saying that Drudge has a symbol he puts out to alert people that something big is going down. It's this: ' on the top left of the page.
It's there right now.
WTF?
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:05 PM (tvyXw)
******
I'm not seeing any symbol on Drudge. Where did you get that from? Brietbart?

Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 11:08 PM (6IPEM)

183 May the MSM follow LGF into irrelevance.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 10:46 PM (SRKgf)


Newspapers are already in collapse. And given how liberal the newspapers in my area are, good riddance.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:09 PM (+lVUW)

184
George Bush was a lousy president.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:09 PM (8LCz6)

185 "I was living in Boulder at CU Boulder. The next day in class I remember a
professor allowing a Muslim to filibuster and dominate the room on his
claim the videos of the Palestinans were faked and old footage."

Ummmmmm... THE Ward Churchill?

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 11:09 PM (noWW6)

186 In June of 2002, Mayor Guliani gave the commencement address for tiny little Shanksville HS. They had sent him a letter and asked if he would. He did. For all his faults, he's a solid dude.

http://old.post-gazette.com/nation/20020601shanksville3.asp

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 11, 2016 11:09 PM (87EDE)

187 "Including V-22 Ospreys, one of the most expensive things to fly in the entire Pentagon inventory."


I can see it, even expensive as it was, as a valuable special operations machine. It can do something special. But if you just need troops or cargo schlepped around there were/are several other good helos in the class that could do so at much, much less.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 11:09 PM (y8GsO)

188 God bless America.



Bush should have sent Marine delegations with support groups to the
ME to impress our concern upon them and eliminate their thoughts of
terrorism.
---
i thought that's why we had SLBMs....

let them do the haj over glass in the dark because it's glowing

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 11, 2016 11:10 PM (dbgcV)

189 "Yeah, that whole crew, sans Bolton, needs to blow away."

In re Bolton having been hired on in that administration: "Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then."

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 11:10 PM (noWW6)

190 We MADE them do it. We left them no choice.

Posted by: Michael Moore at September 11, 2016 11:11 PM (n3hky)

191 My dad was just over the Atlantic leaving from Paris when the order was made to ground flights. Fortunately, his flight had not reached the point of no return but the plane still had to fly around for a while (those jets aren't engineered to land with an almost full fuel supply) before returning to Paris. Perhaps surprisingly the Parisians were very welcoming to Americans who wound up stranded there.

Me, I was at Maryland at the time and the news did not hit until later when I got home from campus. It was a double-whammy for Maryland because the attacks took the lives of students/alumni and just two weeks later a nasty tornado ripped through campus.

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 11:11 PM (C47HG)

192 I'm not seeing any symbol on Drudge. Where did you get that from? Brietbart?
---

I can see it on my page on my desktop. It's in the far upper left hand corner. Looks like a piece of lint. But it's there.

This is the message I read on a really, really disreputable conspiracy site:

Don't
ask how I know and obviously ignore at your own risk, but for years now
Drudge has had a signal, a bit of a secret code, to alert various
people that something massive is about to go down. People have paid him
to give them a few hours head start, so to speak.

Today for the first time ever he has used that signal.

The signal?

A ` symbol in the upper left corner of the page. Go look for yourself.

It looks innocuous, but...

Well... This is a friendly heads up.

Best of luck everyone.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:11 PM (tvyXw)

193 Your Government considers your death at the hands of terrorists an acceptable loss.

Posted by: Deplorable Man at September 11, 2016 11:11 PM (wNJkU)

194 The "signal" is a small "`" in the upper left corner. It's there now, and is supposed to be an alert (to the those in the know) that he's getting word from his sources that something big is happening.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 11, 2016 11:11 PM (DW+jj)

195 >>>THAT is who we saw coming out of the apartment today.


So Hillary may be recuperating in some remote hospital somewhere in the Swiss Alps for all we know.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:11 PM (dtWKK)

196 Watch for it. Dems will demand Trump stop all campaigning while Hillary recovers.

Posted by: pat at September 11, 2016 11:11 PM (4MSOz)

197 The symbol is on my monitor. Thought is was one more something screwed in my laptop. Never know what you bring back from la zona rosa.

Posted by: gNewt....forever censored at September 11, 2016 11:12 PM (c80mr)

198 Hillary has a body double.

Awww, man. This isn't gonna turn out like that stupid movie "Dave", is it?

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2016 11:12 PM (qJhUV)

199 I use Bing as my default search site, but I'm becoming completely disgusted with their newsfeed at the bottom of the page.
A negative headline for Trump is there for days. A negative headline about Hillary is gone in a couple of hours. For instance, the Hillary collapse episode was there, and gone 2 hours later.

Yahoo is just as bad. I can't find a way to use Bing for searches but not have their liberal agenda forced on me. Any ideas?

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:12 PM (+lVUW)

200 Regarding the body double, take a look at any recent video of the Hillary you've come to know and love, then look at the Chelsea's apartment "Hillary". To my admittedly untrained eye, I'd say close but no cigar. There's one good left side profile that just doesn't look like Hillary at all.

Good thing we've got early (and often) voting enshrined in our Constitution!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2016 11:12 PM (wCEn4)

201 For all of the Bush bashers here, please remember that while he made poor choices, he did actually know wrong from right. His instincts in the aftermath of 9/11 were spot on, and we were much assured and calmed by his specific actions. What he did after? Not so much, but at least he tried.

Consider what the alternative would have been.

President Gore? He would have hid under a table until his mommy showed up to tell him what to do and change his underpants.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 11, 2016 11:12 PM (+YMhA)

202 Posted by: TickledPink at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (F5hTl)

My story? I was asleep when the towers were hit, but before they fell. I was in college, living at home, and off that day, so I slept in like usual. Walked past a TV with the burning towers without thinking about it, and thought they must have been doing a retrospective on the last WTC bombing. Grabbed a coke, sat down, drank a few sips... and once the caffeine hit my bloodstream and I absorbed the news, I promptly sprayed the living room TV.

Ran to get my mom with a "holy shit, did you see this", and that's when she laid the rest of it on me, the Pentagon attack, that there was at least one more plane in the air (nobody knew it'd gone down yet), etc.

We spent the rest of the day trying to get in contact with a family friend in DC who worked in the Pentagon at the time, and thanks to the way the phone system crashed, we weren't able to find out anything until about 10 PM that night. It also took every ounce of persuasive power my mom could muster to keep me from running off to the nearest military recruiter.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 11, 2016 11:13 PM (HalrA)

203 Shibumi, my spidey senses have been bothering me all night.

Posted by: Alana at September 11, 2016 11:13 PM (ASfgM)

204 170 earlier ace said 'I think she's going to drop out -- and Trump can't beat any other person.' but don't you think voters would punish the democrats for switching candidates so late? of course i don't mean dems but the so called 'independents' and liv - who would they replace her with?
(reposted since i lost connection before)

Posted by: anon2020 at September 11, 2016 11:06 PM (yCcA0)

The Dims are floating trial balloons out there through David Schuster. His last tweet was from a dim who said Hillary has to be the one to make the decision to drop out and that they are in uncharted political waters.

I believe the dims are at a catch-22 situation. If she drops out for health reasons then the party and media will get hammered by Trump and Americans because they would be viewed as lying and covering up for her. If she stays in she is lost.

Trump is running unopposed.

Today was evidence of God's work exposing evil for His Children to see one last time. He smote her where it would hurt her the worst.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:13 PM (H8Bf9)

205
Bush had no balls to support Bolton. Or that weasel Gonzales, or that other weasel Scooter Libby. Or Rumsfeld. Or Ashcroft, who was a decent man.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:13 PM (8LCz6)

206 And... the signal from Drudge appeared yesterday.

Search "drudge the signal." You might end up at godlike productions.

Question: Is there a possibility that they *planned* on Hillary's event today and she is going to be permanently replaced? Because she is not alive any more?

/yes, I know this is super crazy. many apologies.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:13 PM (tvyXw)

207 196
Watch for it. Dems will demand Trump stop all campaigning while Hillary recovers.

Posted by: pat at September 11, 2016 11:11 PM (4MSOz)


You can recover from soul rot and death??

Posted by: Peter at September 11, 2016 11:14 PM (n3hky)

208 Had a post disappear. That was weird.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at September 11, 2016 11:14 PM (heN73)

209
Posted by: anon2020 at September 11, 2016 11:06 PM (yCcA0)

---------------------

Anon, I'll repost my response. Lots of NeverTrumpers and Atrumpists are thronging forth on this with the odd notion that, say, Jeb, Kasich, or Cruz would be thrashing Hillary right now and would then proceed to thrash her replacement, but that Trump alone can lose to a Democrat. I just won't believe that without evidence, and in this race I don't think it can be gotten.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 11:14 PM (5o5ek)

210 200
Regarding the body double, take a look at any recent video of the
Hillary you've come to know and love, then look at the Chelsea's
apartment "Hillary". To my admittedly untrained eye, I'd say close but
no cigar. There's one good left side profile that just doesn't look like
Hillary at all.



Good thing we've got early (and often) voting enshrined in our Constitution!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2016 11:12 PM (wCEn4)


Big Brother will never die, Comrade. (Even if they have to go back and airbrush the slightly different features of the double into every picture.)

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 11, 2016 11:15 PM (HalrA)

211 Never know what you bring back from la zona rosa.
Posted by: gNewt....forever censored


Hopefully a burrito or nine.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2016 11:15 PM (V3IFq)

212 @206

I said it was planned/staged from the jump.

But, I doubt Hillary is deceased.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 11, 2016 11:16 PM (F5hTl)

213 Here is the quandry faced by the DNC:

If they decide to ditch Hill and Hill doesn't want to go quietly into the night (and I can't imagine she would agree to it) and they override her to select Biden or Kaine the womyn who had their hearts set on voting for the First Vagina President will be angry at the prospect of having to vote for a white guy. I can already hear the sound of millions of Cat Ladies screeching. Some would get over it; others would not, especially if Hill resists. They can't afford to alienate womym any more than they can afford to lose the black vote.

They could, I suppose, put in Corey Booker, but the 2nd black president is not a breakthrough like electing the first woman would be.

They engineered things so Hill could be coronated. It's not going to be easy to dump her now.

Live by identity politics, die by them too.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:16 PM (P8951)

214 The RoP thing did it for me. I was incensed at the time and still can't forgive it.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (Tyii7)

215 Any ideas?

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:12 PM (+lVUW)

DuckDuckGo is a stupid name but they seem to be reliable.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (wCEn4)

216 Yahoo is just as bad. I can't find a way to use Bing for searches but not have their liberal agenda forced on me. Any ideas?

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:12 PM (+lVUW)



DuckDuckGo.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (SRKgf)

217 Yeah, that whole crew, sans Bolton, needs to blow away.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 11:08 PM (+lv+r)


I disagree. Cheney and Rumsfeld were key. Bush's first term was pretty good - though I lay it on his feet to be taking the most complicated, convoluted, stupidest way of dealing with the swift invasion victory of Iraq. It was his second term, when Rummie and Cheney were no longer his main advisors, when Bush really went off the rails into leftist-land. It was when Colon Powell and then Condi Rice became his goto advisors and all of their bullshit - though, again, Bush had this tendency from the start, anyway, and was always a bit at odds with Cheney and Rumsfeld. Also the Valerie Plame crap that was allowed to drag on for over a year ... which Powell conveniently said nothing about and Bush later DID nothing about.

It was Bush's second term that was a total disaster. His first was pretty decent, though he only did the minimal possible in fighting the muzzies and never got around to dealing with Iran, at all.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (zc3Db)

218 You can recover from soul rot and death??
Posted by: Peter at September 11, 2016 11:14 PM (n3hky)


You can if you repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.

But you don't recover from Parkinson's. I wonder how many of her deleted emails were about experimental Parkinson's treatments. How many babies did she kill for embryonic stem cell treatments?

Posted by: Iblis at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (rP2JJ)

219 Trump is running unopposed.

Today was evidence of God's work exposing evil for His Children to see one last time. He smote her where it would hurt her the worst.
Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:13 PM (H8Bf9)

He's not running unopposed. There's the Green Party & Team Weed, and Evan McMuffins.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (7qAYi)

220 "I can see it, even expensive as it was, as a valuable special operations
machine. It can do something special. But if you just need troops or
cargo schlepped around there were/are several other good helos in the
class that could do so at much, much less."

In the context of escorting Marine One with the POTUS aboard, a case could perhaps be built for having an Osprey around as high-speed Presidential medevac. (Or to get out of the blast radius in case of inbound nuke faster than a helo could do it.)

They don't need four or five of the things all accompanying the aerial motorcade. Especially when the Ospreys are having to slow way down to operate at speeds compatible with the actual helicopters that they are accompanying. The rotor disk loading of the Osprey platform makes it grossly inefficient in that airspeed regime.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (noWW6)

221 I'll briefly chime in with my 9-11 memories. I was in highschool and will never forget sitting in class watching it, while my teacher had his feet up on his desk reading a newspaper.

I wanna say I remember him saying before the first tower fell; "Those building are made pretty sturdy to withstand impact."

Then they fell, I was tripping balls all day. I only wish I could say it was from taking some drug, not because of a very dark day in American history.

God Bless.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (R5HRU)

222
Is it possible that Soros has the tech to reanimate the dead?

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (8LCz6)

223 Hillary's not dropping out.



Becoming President is her only reason to live. I said in a previous thread, she'd have the entire Democratic leadership killed before letting them take this away from her.



Leave the race because of a fall and some coughing.....against Donald Trump....over her DEAD body....literally...that's the ONLY way she's leaving the contest.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (uFqpT)

224 194 The "signal" is a small "`" in the upper left corner. It's there now, and is supposed to be an alert (to the those in the know) that he's getting word from his sources that something big is happening.


It must be the story about dolphins recorded having a conversation 'just like people' for the first time. It's up now.

Posted by: Flipper at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (fgOnp)

225 Thinking of the events 15 years past seems to remove any charity in my heart for the Hillary, hmmm....I need to meditate on this.

Posted by: The irredeemable garbone at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (9dH/8)

226 Shibumi, my spidey senses have been bothering me all night.
Posted by: Alana at September 11, 2016 11:13 PM (ASfgM)

The tilde on drudge.

Here we go.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 11, 2016 11:18 PM (Iy6JT)

227 In retrospect, I would take a Gore Presidnecy.

We wouldn't have needlessly squandered blood and treasure and we would not have the SCOAMF.

But as they say, hind sight.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 11:18 PM (+lv+r)

228 The RoP thing did it for me. I was incensed at the time and still can't forgive it.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (Tyii7)



I still view that as one of the most treasonous public statements by a president in our history!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2016 11:18 PM (wCEn4)

229 Ok, it gets even stranger.

There is another site called "veritas radio." Seems like run of the mill conspiracy.

They have the same symbol in same place as Drudge.

WTF?

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:18 PM (tvyXw)

230 207 196
Watch for it. Dems will demand Trump stop all campaigning while Hillary recovers.

Posted by: pat at September 11, 2016 11:11 PM (4MSOz)

And his reply should be, "I wish Hillary the best and hope she recovers soon; however, I have a duty to continue reaching out to the American people, since I am physically capable of doing so."

And it took me 5 seconds to think of that. It's not tough to come up with a response.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:18 PM (P8951)

231 CNN is looking like a bunch of worms and termites now. All their BS comes tumbling down.

Posted by: pat at September 11, 2016 11:18 PM (4MSOz)

232 Today was evidence of God's work exposing evil for His Children to see one last time. He smote her where it would hurt her the worst.
Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:13 PM (H8Bf9)

I have been praying all day that God would save the United States.

Posted by: ALH at September 11, 2016 11:18 PM (Z56vq)

233 CB, saw that you bought a Savage. I've got one and they are good budget guns. Good choice. Might feel a bit plastic-y but they are perfectly functional and accurate.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 11:19 PM (y8GsO)

234 I see the symbol on Drudge. I also see that he put up the reversed Hillary video as a "Close Up Different Angle." Sigh.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT Hobbit at September 11, 2016 11:19 PM (nvMvs)

235 It must be the story about dolphins recorded having a conversation 'just like people' for the first time. It's up now.
Posted by: Flipper


Apparently they type pretty well too.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2016 11:19 PM (V3IFq)

236 It couldn't possibly be a code error or a typo? A tag left over from where someone was going to put in a headline, but hit "ESC" to drop it, but hit " ' " instead like I do because I have fat fingers?

Oh well, and I didn't buy extra cat-food. I'm boned.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 11:19 PM (e9hKK)

237 "It was his second term, when Rummie and Cheney were no longer his main
advisors, when Bush really went off the rails into leftist-land. It was
when Colon Powell and then Condi Rice became his goto advisors and all
of their bullshit"

Just bad staffing all around.

Here's a particular gem: Paul Bremer.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 11:19 PM (noWW6)

238 201 For all of the Bush bashers here, please remember that while he made poor choices, he did actually know wrong from right. His instincts in the aftermath of 9/11 were spot on, and we were much assured and calmed by his specific actions. What he did after? Not so much, but at least he tried.

Consider what the alternative would have been.

President Gore? He would have hid under a table until his mommy showed up to tell him what to do and change his underpants.
Posted by: tcn in AK



This! For all of Bush's faults, he was the right man on that day. I shudder at what Gore would have done.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 11, 2016 11:20 PM (87EDE)

239 George Bush was a lousy president.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's


Ayup. Yet liberals, with their BDS, were able to convince us that he was somehow "conservative". To this day I wonder if it was really all a ruse to prevent us selecting someone who really was conservative.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:20 PM (dtWKK)

240 @204
that makes sense. of course dems will vote for anyone with a D next to their name, but I cannot believe dropping out this late will not hurt the dem party's credibility

Posted by: anon2020 at September 11, 2016 11:20 PM (yCcA0)

241
Either hillary is the reanimated dead, or she's Animitronic, you know, like at Disney world.

or West World.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:20 PM (8LCz6)

242 Becoming President is her only reason to live. I said in a previous thread, she'd have the entire Democratic leadership killed before letting them take this away from her.


That also works.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:21 PM (SRKgf)

243
Wolfowitz and Paulsen were terrible people to be around Bush.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:21 PM (8LCz6)

244 @217

And the coup de grace was the dumbfuck not getting a status of forces agreement with the Iraqi goverment greasing the wheels for the SCOAMF to bug out.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 11:22 PM (+lv+r)

245 227 In retrospect, I would take a Gore Presidnecy.

We wouldn't have needlessly squandered blood and treasure and we would not have the SCOAMF.

But as they say, hind sight.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 11:18 PM (+lv+r)

Then why in hell do you come to this website?

Nobody, not even the progressives, wanted that hack anywhere near the oval office.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 11, 2016 11:22 PM (+YMhA)

246 They engineered things so Hill could be coronated. It's not going to be easy to dump her now.

Live by identity politics, die by them too.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:16 PM (P8951

what about state ballots? Arent they set?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 11:22 PM (voOPb)

247
I'd love to stick around, but I got up early this morning and I've got to get up early tomorrow morning. Be well, friends.

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 11, 2016 11:22 PM (5o5ek)

248 GW was pretty much a no borders man....

Posted by: E.T. at September 11, 2016 11:22 PM (c+7Ko)

249 This! For all of Bush's faults, he was the right man on that day. I shudder at what Gore would have done.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 11, 2016 11:20 PM (87EDE)



This. Hell, Gore came unglued at just losing the election. If he'd been President on 9/11, he'd have probably come out to press conference with a parrot on his shoulder.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:22 PM (SRKgf)

250 Once again, I realize that this sounds insane but... the body double makes sense. It did not seem like Hillary to me when she came out of that building. And she does look significantly lighter- not sure why they didn't give the double padding.

All of this is so bizarre. Not even sure if the person who will be attending the debates will be Hillary.

Also, I saw some open palm comparisons of this woman and Hillary. They're not the same; Hillary has a pretty short life line, and this woman has a long one. Very different hand lines.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:23 PM (tvyXw)

251 204
170 earlier ace said 'I think she's going to drop out -- and Trump can't
beat any other person.' but don't you think voters would punish the
democrats for switching candidates so late? of course i don't mean dems
but the so called 'independents' and liv - who would they replace her
with?

(reposted since i lost connection before)



Posted by: anon2020 at September 11, 2016 11:06 PM (yCcA0)



The Dims are floating trial balloons out there through David
Schuster. His last tweet was from a dim who said Hillary has to be the
one to make the decision to drop out and that they are in uncharted
political waters.



I believe the dims are at a catch-22 situation. If she drops out for
health reasons then the party and media will get hammered by Trump and
Americans because they would be viewed as lying and covering up for her.
If she stays in she is lost.



Trump is running unopposed.



Today was evidence of God's work exposing evil for His Children to
see one last time. He smote her where it would hurt her the worst.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:13 PM (H8Bf9)


If POTUS goes to a non-Dem, there's no reason not to jail Hillary, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, the executive team at the IRS, etc. etc. etc. They've been playing the Big Lie and stonewalling for eight years, because they thought the party would never end, and there's enough dirt to put the lot of 'em in the pen.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 11, 2016 11:23 PM (EzgxV)

252 It couldn't possibly be a code error or a typo? A tag left over from where someone was going to put in a headline, but hit "ESC" to drop it, but hit " ' " instead like I do because I have fat fingers?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 11:19 PM (e9hKK)


If you look at the source you see that it's a simple backtick right before the title tag. Might be a fat finger (since there's a tab in front of it and the backtick is right over the tab key).

I'd say, "Meh".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:23 PM (zc3Db)

253
All we needed was to prevent the future mohammed attas from coming here, and to bomb the training sites over there.

Bush really didn't seal up the borders or halt immigration from muslim countries.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:24 PM (8LCz6)

254 We wouldn't have needlessly squandered blood and treasure and we would not have the SCOAMF.


Why not? He may not have followed Gore directly, but he's young enough to bide his time (under Party orders, of course) and contaminate the White House later.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:24 PM (SRKgf)

255 Rush made a comment about Cruz in response to a caller that inquired why did you today and why don't you aggressively support Cruz like that more often?

Rush responded, he did something. Meaning he went out and attacked his opponent and attacked his opponent. (Something Trump was doing every day).


In retrospect Cruz, who I desperately wanted, doesn't have the chutzpah to defeat the Dims.

Posted by: gNewt....forever censored at September 11, 2016 11:24 PM (c80mr)

256 From Drudge:
"She embraces child -- despite 'pneumonia'... "


She's such a phony and a liar that that thought never even crossed my mind. Funny.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:24 PM (dtWKK)

257 This. Hell, Gore came unglued at just losing the election. If he'd been
President on 9/11, he'd have probably come out to press conference with a
parrot on his shoulder.
---

Nah. He'd come out in arabic garb and announce that he converted and made Islam the national religion.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:24 PM (tvyXw)

258 128 >>>Hillary has a body double.

Eeewww i just threw up a little in my mouth
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 10:56 PM (voOPb)


So the lazy thing can't even do her own falling down?

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:24 PM (+lVUW)

259 I still view that as one of the most treasonous public statements by a president in our history!

I just remember it being the most inappropriate and incongruous declaration that could possibly have been uttered, given the magnitude of the travesty that had just taken place on American soil.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2016 11:24 PM (Tyii7)

260 At the time I liked Bush, and even while in retrospect my views on several aspects of him have soured, I still generally like the guy.

As I see it now, the problem overall was the GOP establishment. Yes, Bush was a big part of bringing that back, and I don't like that. But as far as establishment people go, if we were going to have one of them, we could've done worse (cf. GOP 2000 primary candidates)

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at September 11, 2016 11:25 PM (L54EB)

261 By the way, did anyone think to Hillary a breathalyzer test, or are we sure she has a degenerative brain disease?
I'm going with both.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:26 PM (+lVUW)

262 245 227 In retrospect, I would take a Gore Presidnecy.


This, not in retrospect but in the here and now, is fucking insane.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 11, 2016 11:26 PM (87EDE)

263 what about state ballots? Arent they set?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 11:22 PM (voOPb)

I believe so.

" Not even sure if the person who will be attending the debates will be Hillary."

The body double would have to not only look like Hill but sound like her too. Imitating that screech and cackle?

Maybe they can make up Meryl Streep and have her do it.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:26 PM (P8951)

264 I wouldn't piss on some of you guys right now if you were on fire. A 9/11 thread turned into a Bush bash thread is fucking sickening. I'm done with this place and the present set of commenters. Good fucking riddance.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at September 11, 2016 11:26 PM (MNgU2)

265 And his reply should be, "I wish Hillary the best and hope she recovers soon; however, I have a duty to continue reaching out to the American people, since I am physically capable of doing so."

And it took me 5 seconds to think of that. It's not tough to come up with a response.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:18 PM (P8951)

****

Thoughts and prayers for her to recover from the incredibly debilitating disease she must have. I can only imagine her suffering, and wish her well as she struggles back onto the campaign trail.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:26 PM (YLidQ)

266 15. Yes, and this:

" 'The enemy,' retorted Yossarian with weighted precision, 'is anyone who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he is on...' " -- Catch-22, Joseph Heller.

Posted by: Hank at September 11, 2016 11:26 PM (O40cn)

267 And the coup de grace was the dumbfuck not getting a status of forces agreement with the Iraqi goverment greasing the wheels for the SCOAMF to bug out.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 11:22 PM (+lv+r)


Bush went out of his way to be as gracious to Barky as possible and to leave every issue open for Barky to weave his magic with ... because Bush was really such a dumb f**k. He had people in his own cabinet (the aforementioned Condi Rice and Powell - out of cabinet, but not by much) basically endorsing Barky's campaign and Bush didn't say squat. And as nice as Bush was, constantly, to Barky, Barky would just call him names, blame him for everything and make up shit about Bush. And Bush never said squat about that, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:27 PM (zc3Db)

268
Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 11:19 PM (noWW6)

Colon Powell, Condi Rice, and Paul Bremer were in a trifecta fail class all by themselves!


Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2016 11:27 PM (wCEn4)

269 185 "I was living in Boulder at CU Boulder. The next day in class I remember a
professor allowing a Muslim to filibuster and dominate the room on his
claim the videos of the Palestinans were faked and old footage."

Ummmmmm... THE Ward Churchill?
Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 11:09 PM (noWW6)

No not that class. But I was there for The Ward Churchill chronicles. The local radio dug up some shady stuff on him

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:28 PM (H8Bf9)

270
The "alt right" is now saying that Drudge has a
symbol he puts out to alert people that something big is going down.
It's this: ' on the top left of the page.

It's there right now.

WTF?


Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:05 PM (tvyXw)


I mentioned that the other day here. It's the accent mark (`). Read about it on another site. But it's been there so long that it either means nothing or Drudge is trolling.

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 11:28 PM (Enq6K)

271 I wouldn't piss on some of you guys right now if you were on fire. A 9/11 thread turned into a Bush bash thread is fucking sickening. I'm done with this place and the present set of commenters. Good fucking riddance.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at September 11, 2016 11:26 PM (MNgU2)

****

Helluva flounce, Joey. I give it a 9.6. Don't let the door hitcha and all that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:29 PM (YLidQ)

272 And the coup de grace was the dumbfuck not getting a status of forces agreement with the Iraqi goverment greasing the wheels for the SCOAMF to bug out.

Posted by: Kreplach


There are plenty of problems with his two terms in office. That's not one of them. SCOAFM predicated his entire election on leaving Ay-Rack as soon as poss.

The status was going to be broken inevitably.

Bush's mistake was entering the optional war knowing that it was bound to become so unpopular that his successor would do just that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2016 11:29 PM (V3IFq)

273 Barky fucked up the SOFA

Not Bush

Posted by: ThunderB at September 11, 2016 11:29 PM (1b5uZ)

274 Oh come on. I put a lot more faith in my spidey senses than I do an apostrophe that has appeared exactly ONCE in forever in the corner of Drudge.

Posted by: Alana at September 11, 2016 11:29 PM (ASfgM)

275 234 I see the symbol on Drudge. I also see that he put up the reversed Hillary video as a "Close Up Different Angle." Sigh.


I don't see how anyone can look at that video and see fainting or pneumonia. It looks so obvious that she has a serious neurological problem. It looks like it would look if you were moving someone both of whose legs had fallen asleep.

If you focus on the people around her, who are helping her into the van, there is something very strange. No one looks in the direction of her face. It would be natural to look at the person you are trying to help, especially to say "we are going to move you to the van, get ready" but nothing of the sort happens.

Instead it is like they were moving a wax dummy.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 11, 2016 11:29 PM (fgOnp)

276 This has been such a strange and sad and weird day. It's always been a somber day, added to that Hillary's weird 'help me, I'm falling' to 'hey, it's a beautiful day in NY' two hours later is pretty damn bizarre.

Posted by: IC at September 11, 2016 11:29 PM (KTFfX)

277 Drudge's supposed "Bat Signal" has been up since Sept. 8th. The story is again this is a warning to those in the know (who pay big bucks) that something YUGE is about to go down.

Some little innocuous thing the backtick would be the way you'd do something like this. Alone, it could be anything.

It's also something I might come up with to pull people's chains just for fun. Start some rumor that I have some "secret signal", then activate it just to see what happened.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 11, 2016 11:30 PM (DW+jj)

278 My first vote I could cast was for GWB. I don't regret it.


He was a flawed president, especially in his second term, but he was a good man.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at September 11, 2016 11:30 PM (R5HRU)

279
Why are people so loyal to Bush? He wasn't loyal to us.

Bush never cared about Conservatism. And for the last 8 years, hasn't shown he cares for the nation.


Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:30 PM (8LCz6)

280 @254

Well you can never know the future but I believe the SCOAMF would still be a south side agitaor or possibly an Illinois state senator but for the war.

The war radicalized the democrat party.

There was such a thing as a conservative and moderate democrat before the war after it they have all become Marxist fascist unamerican shit heels.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 11:30 PM (+lv+r)

281 @141: "For once, the Times did something decent."

Churches, too. Declaring that the jumpers were choosing 15 seconds more of life, rather than committing suicide, so they could be buried in religious cemeteries.

I can't imagine the shitstorm that would have followed had they not, but still...they did it without prompting.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 11, 2016 11:30 PM (ggtda)

282 I supported Bush every step of the way. I thought he was a good man, a tough man, and that he had a long plan to turn it around. I believe, except for the quick win, everything he did paved the way for the hell we are in.

Imperialism is the answer.

Posted by: gNewt....forever censored at September 11, 2016 11:30 PM (c80mr)

283 I think GWB is a good man, just was an inadequate president.

He seems to have bought into the whole Religion of Peace BS. I am sure he still believes that to this day. He fought a politically correct war based on that flawed sentiment and lost it bc of that. He had 8 yrs to win it and end it. He should never have left the outcome to Obama.

I'm not arguing that Gore would have been preferable.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (6IPEM)

284
Nobody is saying Bush wasn't a decent man. Just a lousy president.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (8LCz6)

285 >>"Does anyone remember the name of the standup comic/comedy writer who
realized after 9/11 that liberals really did hate America? I can't
recall who it was.


Was it Evan Sayet?
Also, think actor Ron Silver woke on 9-11, was even friends with Ann Coulter.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (NOIQH)

286 On had a friend who was on a driving trip in Canada on 9/11. The borders were closed and no one was allowed to reenter the US. So she and her friend had to stay longer in Canada. The horror! Just kidding.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (+lVUW)

287 In retrospect Cruz, who I desperately wanted, doesn't have the chutzpah to defeat the Dims.





Posted by: gNewt....forever censored at September 11, 2016 11:24 PM (c80mr)


He's great at articulating points, and has a great voting record, but just doesn't attack the media head-on the way that's needed these days, and he doesn't defend himself from their attacks. They've been building an aura of slime around him since he stepped into the public eye, and he simply hasn't done enough to dispel it. He'd have been a great candidate 20 years ago, but our NeoPravda media would chew him up and spit him out.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (HalrA)

288 Bush really didn't seal up the borders or halt immigration from muslim countries.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's

Nope. He's Jeb's brother, so what do you expect?

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (dtWKK)

289 Fuck, Cheatriots win.

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (C47HG)

290 Damn, this thread went off the rails.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (y8GsO)

291 **sees missed AZ FG**

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Posted by: Roger Goodhell at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (H9MG5)

292
obama is also a lousy president AND and a very bad man.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (8LCz6)

293 #239 agreed...and Trump, whatever he really is, is no conservative.

Posted by: torabora at September 11, 2016 11:31 PM (Lh0b8)

294 FWIW About 30 min ago, Drudge tweeted, "Will she survive?"

Posted by: scrood at September 11, 2016 11:32 PM (3b9U4)

295 Clinton just cancelled Monday and Tuesday fundraisers. Wednesday in Vegas still on, for now.

Just out of curiosity, I wonder if anyone in the MSM really believes pneumonia is her issue, or her only issue?

Posted by: MTF at September 11, 2016 11:32 PM (/m8T6)

296 logprof,

Yup

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at September 11, 2016 11:32 PM (R5HRU)

297 Bush never cared about Conservatism. And for the last 8 years, hasn't shown he cares for the nation.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:30 PM (8LCz6)

*****

For the last 8 years he has done what every former President should. STFD and STFU.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:32 PM (YLidQ)

298 Trump should send her a "Life Alert" pendant

Posted by: ThunderB at September 11, 2016 11:33 PM (1b5uZ)

299 Being a free and independent people, we are not obligated to defend a president because he is of our ideological tribe. We can discuss him freely. There is no moral obligation to support one set of philosophical, much less political values.

That's what "alt-right" is all about.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 11, 2016 11:33 PM (Iy6JT)

300 267: I don't think I will hold W being a decent human being against him. He wasn't a very good President but on 9/11, he was what we, as a nation, needed. I like the guy. That doesn't equate to thinking he was a good President, but I like the guy.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 11, 2016 11:33 PM (87EDE)

301 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775004204805005313

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775004378012983296

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775004558254891008

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775004691893805056

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775004824098201600

Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2016 11:33 PM (Ya7zs)

302 Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at September 11, 2016 11:26 PM (MNgU2)

I hope you reconsider, Joe. I don't always agree with you, but I enjoy your comments.

For the record, as exasperated as I sometimes was with Dubya, I have no regrets about voting for him when I consider who he ran against. I have no doubt that he is, at heart, a good man. The troops loved him.

The left and the media were on a mission to destroy him ever since the SCOTUS decision re: the election. They eventually succeeded. I just wish he had fought back instead of ignoring them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:33 PM (P8951)

303 >>The war radicalized the democrat party.

That and the 2010 defeat of the dems that voted obamacare

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 11:33 PM (voOPb)

304 Imperialism is the answer.
Posted by: gNewt


It is and was but not with the current American electorate.

They gave up on Iraq in less than 5 years.

No way in hell they would be up for colonial occupation.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2016 11:34 PM (V3IFq)

305 For the last 8 years he has done what every former President should. STFD and STFU.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:32 PM (YLidQ)


That's fine when the next President isn't an America-hating traitor.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:34 PM (zc3Db)

306
No, Trump is no conservative. Trump couldn't even define conservatism if you asked him. But he inadvertently agrees with me on most things, which is more than most Republicans these days.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:34 PM (8LCz6)

307 295
Clinton just cancelled Monday and Tuesday fundraisers. Wednesday in Vegas still on, for now.





Posted by: MTF at September 11, 2016 11:32 PM (/m8T6)


Good for her. Hillary can place bets on how long she'll live.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 11:34 PM (uFqpT)

308 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775005537977204736

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775005786816802816

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775005932229128192

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775006085367361537

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/775006243651985408

Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2016 11:34 PM (Ya7zs)

309 Joe, I wouldn't get pissed. GWB did good things, more than the current set of bumble-fcuks, if the wake of 9/11.

But he did some really dumb shit too in the following years.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 11:35 PM (y8GsO)

310 Posted by: cthulhu at September 11, 2016 11:23 PM (EzgxV)

The next week will be interesting. I will not be getting much sleep until a dim candidate and Hillary are resolved. If the DNC big wigs are freaking out then I'm a but anxious myself because every option is now on the table when trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars are at stake.

That video was a game changer. Shit just got real.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:35 PM (H8Bf9)

311 "It's also something I might come up with to pull people's chains just
for fun. Start some rumor that I have some 'secret signal', then
activate it just to see what happened."

Ha! Ha! You big kidder.

the chair is against the door

john has a long mustache

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2016 11:35 PM (noWW6)

312 298 Trump should send her a "Life Alert" pendant
Posted by: ThunderB at September 11, 2016 11:33 PM (1b5uZ)

***Snort**

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 11:35 PM (voOPb)

313 HILLARY HAD A CONTROLLED COLLAPSE!!!!11!!

Posted by: Pete Carroll at September 11, 2016 11:35 PM (Ya7zs)

314
Why should former presidents shut up? Especially today when we have a terrorist occupying the White House.

It' a silly tradition in light of what's going on.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:36 PM (8LCz6)

315 That's fine when the next President isn't an America-hating traitor.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:34 PM (zc3Db)

****

What should Bush, very specifically, done about that? Show your work.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:36 PM (YLidQ)

316 136

Also the anniversary og benghazi


Well well well

Dan Abrams at lawnewz.com has penned a column. About how to dump Hillary. Cites DNC bylaws, Article 2 Section 7

New nominee is selected by a special meeting of the DNC

Didn't I hear they were meeting tonight

Is this the night of the long knives?
Posted by: ThunderB at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (TqfuN)


If Hillary is forced out, then that new candidate will have to start fundraising from scratch. Hillary will have to return all of her donations to the donors, she cannot give any of that money to the new nominee.

All of the advertising that she bought will be cancelled, and all of those ads will be available for purchase to everyone else.

All of the things and people that were paid for with the "Primary" money, will now have to be paid for with "General Election" money, and there will be little to nothing for advertising.

Also, Bill and Hillary have a huge slush fund and cadre of lawyers that will take the Democrat party down if they have to. Remember, it's all about the Clinton's money.

Posted by: Deplorable Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:36 PM (1JnAL)

317 logprof's back around?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 11:37 PM (y8GsO)

318 If you want to have some fun, any of you amateur cryptoanalysts, see if you can find any "code" hidden in the text of Drudge's page. :-) There are several techniques for hiding messages in larger texts, very simple. See if you can spot any.

For instance
Up in
Canada
Kitchens are important
You know
Of all
Umpires, Jake was the best.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 11, 2016 11:37 PM (DW+jj)

319 Patriots could go 4-0 without Brady. This was the toughest game on the schedule and honestly I can't believe our offense held up to the Cards' D. Dolphins and Bills are always a tough out but it's the Texans who will be the toughest game in this stretch. Then it's #12's turn to show the league what deflated balls look like.

Big ups to Larry Fitzgerald in this game. I was yelling "make it stop" at my TV on the last Cards drive. Unreal catch and runs from 11.

GG Cardinals.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 11, 2016 11:37 PM (Iy6JT)

320 284
Nobody is saying Bush wasn't a decent man. Just a lousy president.



I don't think anybody here is saying he was a great President, with the exception of one week (9/11 and the week after).

He is a decent man.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 11, 2016 11:37 PM (87EDE)

321 He seems to have bought into the whole Religion of Peace BS. I am sure he still believes that to this day. He fought a politically correct war based on that flawed sentiment and lost it bc of that. He had 8 yrs to win it and end it. He should never have left the outcome to Obama.
...

Yep, and he did win it, but politely and ethically left the status of forces up to Obama.

In hindsight, what we all need to keep in mind after the last 40, 50 years or so is that the Dems have gone communist, and will deliberately lose wars just for political reasons. It's the definition of evil, and they WILL take that road every time if they think they can benefit politically.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 11:37 PM (ozZau)

322 on 9/11, he was what we, as a nation, needed

Agreed. I just can't for the life of me wrap my arms around some of what followed. I suppose it serves no constructive purpose to rehash the past in that respect.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 11, 2016 11:38 PM (Tyii7)

323
If it makes Joe H feel any better, I'll say George Bush was 1000X better than obama. But he was still a lousy president.



Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:38 PM (8LCz6)

324 Anyone else watching the Star Trek marathon on BBS America?

Just watched the Mirror, Mirror episode with Bearded Spock, Evil Grin Scarred Sulu, Bare Midriff Uhura, Hot Captain's Woman in his bunk...

And of course one of the best lines ever uttered on tv ...

"Your agonizer, please"

Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2016 11:38 PM (Ya7zs)

325 I'm not giving back my dacha.

Posted by: Bernie at September 11, 2016 11:38 PM (ANVXm)

326 I see flaming skulls in our futures this week kids.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 11, 2016 11:39 PM (Iy6JT)

327 Hillary has a body double.

Eeewww i just threw up a little in my mouth

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 10:56 PM (voOPb)


Also with cankles?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (oqkO3)

328 Okay, I'll plead ignorance. What the F does the JEF mean? I'm pretty sure it's aimed at Obama.

Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (ragzU)

329
Maybe Bush shoulda said hey obama you cant use the IRS like that.

Or Bush shouldve said hey obama, you can't lie to the American people about what's going on.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (8LCz6)

330 257 This. Hell, Gore came unglued at just losing the election. If he'd been
President on 9/11, he'd have probably come out to press conference with a
parrot on his shoulder.
---

Nah. He'd come out in arabic garb and announce that he converted and made Islam the national religion.
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 11, 2016 11:24 PM (tvyXw)


Hell, Bush all but did that himself.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (sdi6R)

331 297:For the last 8 years he has done what every former President should. STFD and STFU.


I agree!

Posted by: Jimmah Carter at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (87EDE)

332 >>Big ups to Larry Fitzgerald in this game. I was yelling "make it stop" at my TV on the last Cards drive. Unreal catch and runs from 11.

No shit
Posted by: Last year's Packer playoff team

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (voOPb)

333 We all actually agree about GWB.
How bout that?

Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (6IPEM)

334 Hey Ricardo Kill and Puffy Scamper!

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (C47HG)

335 I always argued Iraq was about Iran as well.

When TFG ignored the Green Revolution in Iran shortly after he stepped into office, Iraq became a mistake in hindsight, which is sad and tragic.

I wonder what the world world look like if we aided the Green Revolution in Iran and kept the strong men dictators in power besides Iraq.

Conclusion:.the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrated the government when Obama was elected.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (H8Bf9)

336 It means
Jug
Eared
Fuck

Pretty apt once you look at him.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 11, 2016 11:41 PM (Iy6JT)

337 What should Bush, very specifically, done about that? Show your work.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:36 PM (YLidQ)


Nobody stopped him from talking, especially when Barky was lying and blaming shit on him for the first 5 years. Nobody stopped Bush from, perhaps, saying that Barky's World Traitor Tour for the first two years - where he went around the world and blamed everything on America - was un-American. In fact, such a display by the President should be grounds for impeachment.

There was tons of stuff Bush could have spoken about. But he didn't. And this was not with any "normal" Presidency. This was with an America-hating traitor trying to prostrate America before the world - mostly the third world.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:41 PM (zc3Db)

338 Jug Ear Fuck

Posted by: Chi at September 11, 2016 11:41 PM (5Erk9)

339 306


No, Trump is no conservative. Trump couldn't even define
conservatism if you asked him. But he inadvertently agrees with me on
most things, which is more than most Republicans these days.





Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:34 PM (8LCz6)


And the biggest thing is Trump is not part of the Establishment that could have simply refused to raise the debt ceiling at several points the last 8 years.


Anyone here can go back to the joy and jubilation of the last mid-terms. That lasted all of 2 weeks if that before it was business as usual.

The US is bankrupt. There's $90 to $200 Trillion in unfunded liabilities that will never be paid, the dollar as a reserve currency is being eroded, the debt is rocketing higher and higher. I think Trump may be the only one who could start doing what's needed to fix things while not giving a f$ck about the howling from the media.


Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 11:41 PM (uFqpT)

340 Police your own, then tell me you belong to a religion of peace. It has yet, over the past 1400 years, to demonstrate even a remote interest in peace or harmony. Until then, fuck them all and may they rest in hell for eternity.

/rant off
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 11, 2016 11:00 PM (+YMhA)

But you know they are a religion of peace - that's why everyone from a Christian nation is stampeding to immigrate to a Muslim nation. If it were otherwise, then the immigration would be the other way around.

Everyone is trying like heck to get away from evil white people and Christians, don't cha know!

Posted by: Jade Sea at September 11, 2016 11:41 PM (IbfhZ)

341 And we haven't even hit the bursting of the debt bubble yet. The US still owes $90 to $200 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities that will NEVER be paid.
And we think people are pissed off now. Wait until all of the socialist promises turn to dust.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (uFqpT)


I have a pension, a paid for house, and other assets. If social security goes belly up I'll be okay. My nephews and their wives, who are pro democrat and liberalism, are going to be completely screwed, when whatever has to happen to social security, happens.

And liberals like them are not saving for retirement. The people I know who are putting money into their own retirement funds seem to be the conservatives.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (+lVUW)

342 Besides temporary tax cuts and one SCOTUS jurist, which we had to fight for by the way, I cannot think of a any other positive thing to come out of the bush presidency.

And on that note, good night.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (+lv+r)

343 Just watched the Mirror, Mirror episode with Bearded
Spock, Evil Grin Scarred Sulu, Bare Midriff Uhura, Hot Captain's Woman
in his bunk...



And of course one of the best lines ever uttered on tv ...



"Your agonizer, please"



Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2016 11:38 PM (Ya7zs)

Yeah, I watched it. Spock looked like Charlie Chan in that episode.

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (Enq6K)

344 "Hey Ricardo Kill and Puffy Scamper!"



We had you on milk cartons. What you been up to?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (y8GsO)

345 "George Bush was a lousy president."

Kerry voter?

Posted by: navybrat at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (w7KSn)

346 Hey, logprof. Long time.

Posted by: Chi at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (5Erk9)

347 Bush's biggest failing was never pushing back so much as an inch on the leftist full-court press against him. He was rendered so toxic by the nonstop attacks, it poisoned the republican brand for the next two elections. He took the high road and it got him nowhere. THAT is what laid the groundwork or candidate Trump.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (Iy6JT)

348 328 Okay, I'll plead ignorance. What the F does the JEF mean? I'm pretty sure it's aimed at Obama.
Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (ragzU)


--Jug-Eared Fuck

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 11:43 PM (C47HG)

349 What should Bush, very specifically, done about that? Show your work.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:36 PM (YLidQ)


Also, it would have been nice for him to tell his sitting SecState that she has no business saying what a fine President the Indonesian Retard would be. Condi should have been tossed from the cabinet for that. Seriously.

But you probably think it's cool for a sitting SecState to assure the nation that an opposition party, America-hating, Indonesian-raised piece of shit is fine and will make a dandy President? Right? You thought that was just lovely, I'm sure.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:43 PM (zc3Db)

350 tcn in AK I've always liked you.

*wink and fingergun*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at September 11, 2016 11:44 PM (Iy6JT)

351 O/T but a school bus crash at the Denver airport killed the driver and injured a bunch of others.

A high school football team from my neighborhood was returning from a game in Chino, CA.

How do you feel about high school football, your kids flying to a game 1,000 miles and four states away?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at September 11, 2016 11:44 PM (U6f54)

352 And SCOAMF means Stuttering Clucsterfuck of a Miserable Failure.

There is a team in the Moron fantasy football league named SCOAMF = JEF, but I don't know the poster off-hand.

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 11:44 PM (C47HG)

353 They forgot that Australia also has bunyips and dropbears.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 11, 2016 11:44 PM (6FqZa)

354 Hillary has a body double.

If only I'd married someone hot...

Posted by: Bill at September 11, 2016 11:45 PM (ANVXm)

355 Hi, MH! Nice win by the Pack today,although the end was a nailbiter.

"What the F does the JEF mean?"

Jug earred f*ck.

And TFG is That F*cking Guy (coined by Ace)

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:45 PM (P8951)

356 Mis Hum,

Outstanding ONT. You rose to this demanding occasion. Well Done.

Btw, your comment @138.....I agree. That Mothers strength of character was exceptional in those circumstances.

Evenin Horde Oh Plenty....

Never Forget. Never Forgive.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at September 11, 2016 11:45 PM (U+rJD)

357 293 #239 agreed...and Trump, whatever he really is, is no conservative.

============

297 Bush never cared about Conservatism.

============

One thing that is clear is that there is not now agreement on what "conservative" means.

GOPe intellectuals consider Bush to be a conservative, and believe that mass immigration and free trade with countries to which our factories have moved is "conservative." Paul Ryan is counted as a conservative by these folks. Under this reasoning, securing the border and enforcing immigration laws runs counter to conservatism.

And Trump's core message, negotiating trade deals for the benefit of American workers rather than for the ease of global businesses and formulating immigration policy from the perspective of the best interest of America as a nation, is considered not conservative, but rather populist or nationalist. But to me, that is conservative.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 11, 2016 11:45 PM (fgOnp)

358 >>They engineered things so Hill could be coronated. It's not going to be easy to dump her now.


Eh, the important thing is to win. Win at all costs. Obama's legacy is at stake here. I would not be surprised if they want Hillary to have a public breakdown just as much as we do to justify shoehorning in someone else, like good ol' Joey Biden.

If you believe that Hill and Bill are ruthless, and have the goods on too many people to be defied (especially at the risk of an untimely death), then the only way to get her removed without incurring her wrath is on a gurney, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2016 11:46 PM (NOIQH)

359 I don't know Publius, I am getting out my cardano grill and my skytail and starting to decode away.

I am also getting out my letter frequencies list for Indo-European languages. Um, is Drudge Portuguese by any chance? It's important.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2016 11:46 PM (e9hKK)

360 Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (+lVUW)



I'm thrilled for you and yours that are preparing. I'm also very happy that they type of people that I care most about, that America will need in the future are very well armed.



I honestly do think everything will be alright in the future. Bloody as all hell. But alright after that.





Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 11:46 PM (uFqpT)

361 336
It means

Jug

Eared

Fuck

Thanks to all who answered. Makes total fucking sense.

Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2016 11:46 PM (ragzU)

362 Okay, from here on out I am going to have Scott Adams (the Dilbert cartoonist) pick my lottery numbers.

He wrote this on April 29.

Under normal circumstances it would be deeply irresponsible for a cartoonist to give a medical diagnosis to a stranger he hasn't met. I trust you to ignore my medical opinions. I do this to build a record of my persuasion-related predictions and to show you the method.

I give Clinton a 50% chance of making it to November with sufficiently good health to be considered a viable president. Judging from her performance on the campaign trail, she is managing her health effectively to get the job done. But I would think most people who run for president end up sacrificing their health in some measure. The big question is how much buffer she has left.



Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2016 11:47 PM (tewYv)

363 318 If you want to have some fun, any of you amateur cryptoanalysts, see if you can find any "code" hidden in the text of Drudge's page. :-) There are several techniques for hiding messages in larger texts, very simple. See if you can spot any.

For instance
Up in
Canada
Kitchens are important
You know
Of all
Umpires, Jake was the best.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 11, 2016 11:37 PM (DW+jj

I'm with you on Drudge speaking in code.

He has been linking to the successful head transplants and other just out of the public's reach type of technology along with Hillary this cycle.

Drudge has seen and lived through some serious shit. There is a reason why he gives few interviews.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 11, 2016 11:47 PM (H8Bf9)

364 We had you on milk cartons. What you been up to?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (y8GsO)

--Heh, mostly I've been employed the past few months.

Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 11:48 PM (C47HG)

365 I found Drudge's big story!!

"@nytimes 11m
Gwyneth Paltrow has a new clothing line, but don't call her a designer "

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2016 11:48 PM (V3IFq)

366 Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 11, 2016 11:45 PM (fgOnp)

Which makes my point that the conservative label has been stretched to mean so many different, mutually exclusive things that it has essentially become meaningless.

Now given the poor brand recognition that conservatism has nationally, the question becomes, "so why don't we just let those a-holes keep it and find a new label to put on the box of our ideas?"

We're not conservatives in the historical sense, and we never were. As Reagan once put it, our ideas are still the newest thing in the history of man's relation to man, the idea that people can govern themselves without the input of a small elite in a distant capitol.

We're still the radicals.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 11, 2016 11:48 PM (HalrA)

367 275 I don't see how anyone can look at that video and see fainting or pneumonia. It looks so obvious that she has a serious neurological problem. It looks like it would look if you were moving someone both of whose legs had fallen asleep.

If you focus on the people around her, who are helping her into the van, there is something very strange. No one looks in the direction of her face. It would be natural to look at the person you are trying to help, especially to say "we are going to move you to the van, get ready" but nothing of the sort happens.

Instead it is like they were moving a wax dummy.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 11, 2016 11:29 PM (fgOnp)


I don't know whether she has a neurological problem. We do know that her campaign lied to us today when they first said she became overheated and then later came back with the pneumonia excuse.

Even if she does have pneumonia, the Democrats had no intention of revealing it. Today's events forced their hand.

I believe that her underlying health problems, whatever they may be, are more serious and longstanding than pneumonia caused by allergies.

I'm not too surprised either that they tossed her into the van with little or no discussion. It was a crisis situation and their job is to get her to physical safety, not talk her through things. Besides, she was semi-conscious at best.

Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT Hobbit at September 11, 2016 11:49 PM (nvMvs)

368 I'm glad you've asked for my thoughts regarding Hillary's medical event today. I've contacted the commission for presidential debates to ensure HEPA air filters are installed to remove any allergens from the air, or pneumonia bacteria, to help Hillary breathe easy and protect the public in attendance.

Further, I've asked that the temperature be lowered to 60°, and a fountain of Gatorade installed on her podium, to hell ensure she doesn't suffer another overheating scenario.

Finally, a screen will be installed on stage to allow her significant personal medical staff to be nearby for any medical emergency while avoiding any negative optics. An ambulance will be on standby, with law enforcement blocking off the route to Chelsea's apartment, where Hillary goes for treatment after all significant medical emergencies.

With the measures in place, I feel confident we can avoid distracting the public from these silly health rumors, and allow the candidates to be chosen based on the issues. Thank you.

Posted by: Donald Trump at September 11, 2016 11:49 PM (erjhy)

369 Also, it would have been nice for him to tell his sitting SecState that she has no business saying what a fine President the Indonesian Retard would be. Condi should have been tossed from the cabinet for that. Seriously.


Ah, the Colin Powell dipsy-doodle. Darkyhood trumps Americanhood.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:49 PM (SRKgf)

370 If you've got an interesting story, just post it. I don't see the point of a symbol, unless it is intended for emphasis, like the flaming skull.

` is pretty lame compared to the flaming skull, though.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:49 PM (dtWKK)

371 What should Bush, very specifically, done about that? Show your work.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:36 PM (YLidQ)

Also, it would have been nice for him to tell his sitting SecState that she has no business saying what a fine President the Indonesian Retard would be. Condi should have been tossed from the cabinet for that. Seriously.

But you probably think it's cool for a sitting SecState to assure the nation that an opposition party, America-hating, Indonesian-raised piece of shit is fine and will make a dandy President? Right? You thought that was just lovely, I'm sure.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:43 PM (zc3Db)

****

The context of the question was what Bush should have done in the last 8 years, not while he was in office.

Reading comprehension is not really your thing, is it?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:50 PM (YLidQ)

372 Now given the poor brand recognition that conservatism has nationally, the question becomes, "so why don't we just let those a-holes keep it and find a new label to put on the box of our ideas?"

It is not so much the recognition of the brand as the damage to it.

Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2016 11:50 PM (tewYv)

373 Overall, Hillary gave me the most happiness, excitement and laughter on 9/11 that I've had in 15 years, so in that sense, today was a good day.



"Never forgive, Never forget." Always. It never even has to be said, it's just understood. And I still look forward to revenge in the future.



Good night all. Thanks.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 11:51 PM (uFqpT)

374 347 Bush's biggest failing was never pushing back so much as an inch on the leftist full-court press against him."

I agree with that. Bush is a Texan, but I think that refusal to fight back against the Left was more a reflection of his East Coast well-bred WASP elite family heritage Attacking the media seemed ungentlemanly and crude to him - he was above such attacks. But the media does not play by Queensbury rules.

Trump is not a gentleman, and thank God because that is not what we need right now. We need a fighter.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 11, 2016 11:51 PM (P8951)

375 How do you feel about high school football, your kids flying to a game 1,000 miles and four states away?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at September 11, 2016 11:44 PM (U6f54)



Thank God they didn't waste that money on the library or education! At least somebody's got their priorities straight around here.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:52 PM (SRKgf)

376 Regarding the tick mark on the upper left corner of Drudge. Some poster up above noted there was also a tick mark on a UFO conspiracy page named "veritas radio". If you go there you'll find their tick mark is a link to Trump's campaign site.

So, is it possible that the tick mark on Drudge is just a show of support for Trump?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 11, 2016 11:52 PM (T/cxb)

377 Look at Drudge's picture choices and arrangements. I've read several articles on the fun he has with pictures. Ann Althouse sees all sorts of sublimal messages in his picture arrangements.

Right now, he's got a picture of Donald with his thumb up and pointing up RuPauls bottom side.

I don't notice shit like that, because I don't pay it much attention, but damned if Althouse didn't convince me that indeed Drugde has fun with pictures.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 11, 2016 11:52 PM (DW+jj)

378 They threw her in like a bag of rags. "Get this shit outta here!"

Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2016 11:52 PM (ragzU)

379 There was tons of stuff Bush could have spoken about. But he didn't. And this was not with any "normal" Presidency. This was with an America-hating traitor trying to prostrate America before the world - mostly the third world.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016
******
Yeah, this is my biggest problem with this man. He loves this country so much that he can't be bothered to stand up in defense of it not even once in the last 7+ yrs during all the traitorous Barky years? But he feels the need to make a statement along with all his family and not attend the Repub convention and say one word in favor of our nominee?

This country has been kind and generous to the Bush family. They don't seem to recognize that.





Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 11:52 PM (6IPEM)

380 It is not so much the recognition of the brand as the damage to it.





Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2016 11:50 PM (tewYv)


Well, yeah. That poor brand recognition is due to the damage they've done to it. I may have articulated the point poorly.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 11, 2016 11:53 PM (HalrA)

381 He's not running unopposed. There's the Green Party & Team Weed, and Evan McMuffins.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2016 11:17 PM (7qAYi)


So, unopposed, then?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2016 11:53 PM (oqkO3)

382 378 They threw her in like a bag of rags. "Get this shit outta here!"
Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2016 11:52 PM (ragzU)



They should recruit Secret Service agents from former garbagemen. They've got that move down cold.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:53 PM (SRKgf)

383 "--Heh, mostly I've been employed the past few months."


Congrats then.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 11, 2016 11:53 PM (y8GsO)

384 I'm a structural engineer.

There are only a handful of structures built the way the towers were built--with a very strong, very redundant exterior skin. They effectively had a nearly continuous external steel load-bearing wall.

No one builds this way because it's stupid expensive, fairly inefficient, and has tiny window openings. The WTC architect was reportedly afraid of heights, and it was his decision to create a structure with small windows and a strong exterior wall to create a sense of safety for the building's users.

Here's my point: Virtually no other structural system would survive the kind of damage those towers took, plus the fire, for as long as those towers stood. The unintended and very favorable result of the architect's selection of structural system was ultimately the preservation of life as there was substantial time for those who could to make an exit from those buildings. I'm calling it Providential until someone proves otherwise.

Final thought; even though I ought to have been able to look objectively at those towers and know they were coming down, I was the same as everyone else that day: glued to the set and just hoping they wouldn't, and as shocked as anyone when they did.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 11, 2016 11:54 PM (TqXWc)

385 "She embraces child -- despite 'pneumonia'..." - Drudge

"Wir danken unserem Führer!"

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at September 11, 2016 11:55 PM (J8/9G)

386 The Falling Man reignites my hatred for islam every time I see it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 11, 2016 11:56 PM (4HySM)

387 The Bush family are Whigs at heart. In both countries' senses of the word.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 11, 2016 11:56 PM (6FqZa)

388 I don't think it's a coincidence...
: |

That Hillary's campaign logo...
: | 8

Looks like directions to a hospital
8 |

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 11, 2016 11:56 PM (V3IFq)

389 The context of the question was what Bush should have done in the last 8 years, not while he was in office.

Reading comprehension is not really your thing, is it?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:50 PM (YLidQ)


You don't know what the word "Also" means?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:57 PM (zc3Db)

390 367 I'm not too surprised either that they tossed her into the van with little or no discussion. It was a crisis situation and their job is to get her to physical safety, not talk her through things. Besides, she was semi-conscious at best.
Posted by: Michael the Deplorable TEXIT Hobbit at September 11, 2016 11:49 PM (nvMvs)


I would agree with this if she were under attack. She was not under attack. It was not a security crisis, it was a health crisis. No one was shooting at them. And the place was packed with LEO. They didn't need to quickly toss her into the van like a sack of potatoes.

I suspect it was because she was unconscious and unresponsive. Or it may be that, as rumored, subordinates are instructed not to look her in the eyes.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 11, 2016 11:58 PM (fgOnp)

391 To hell with islam and its goat-fucking prophet and its pathetic little god.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 11, 2016 11:58 PM (4HySM)

392 You don't know what the word "Also" means?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2016 11:57 PM (zc3Db)

***

Sure. You wanted to change the topic. Good Lord, you are tiresome.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:59 PM (YLidQ)

393 Or it may be that, as rumored, subordinates are instructed not to look her in the eyes.

It's my understanding that the ones who disobey that directive are tuned into stone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 11, 2016 11:59 PM (T/cxb)

394 " They threw her in like a bag of rags. "Get this shit outta here!"



It wasn't very graceful. Sack of taters to get out of sight ASAP.

As others have said, there wasn't any real surprise or confusion in the process. They've done it before and know the routine.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 12, 2016 12:00 AM (y8GsO)

395 We need to get Jack Klugman on this case.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 12, 2016 12:00 AM (z+83z)

396 "turned into stone."

I really should learn to type.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 12, 2016 12:00 AM (T/cxb)

397 About Bush and the ME wars - back then a question was how do we know we have won?

When it becomes an accompanied tour.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 12:00 AM (P/kVC)

398 The Falling Man reignites my hatred for islam every time I see it.

And that's why the MSM and the ruling class don't want you to see it.

The Sunnis are the bastards who actually did it, but the Shi'ites who chant "death to America" all over the world are mainly sorry they didn't do it first.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 12, 2016 12:00 AM (6FqZa)

399 341
And we haven't even hit the bursting of the debt bubble yet. The US
still owes $90 to $200 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities that will NEVER
be paid.

And we think people are pissed off now. Wait until all of the socialist promises turn to dust.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 11, 2016 10:58 PM (uFqpT)



I have a pension, a paid for house, and other assets. If social
security goes belly up I'll be okay. My nephews and their wives, who
are pro democrat and liberalism, are going to be completely screwed,
when whatever has to happen to social security, happens.



And liberals like them are not saving for retirement. The people I
know who are putting money into their own retirement funds seem to be
the conservatives.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2016 11:42 PM (+lVUW)


You think you have a pension -- if it's from the government, they're bankrupt; if it's corporate, it's "underfunded" [i.e. bankrupt]. You have a house, but the state levies property taxes to enjoy what you supposedly own. Hopefully, your "other assets" aren't stocks, bonds, or products of the financial industry -- 'cause all of those are only holding their price points because the Fed is printing money to buy them.

OF COURSE, liberals are not saving for retirement -- they intend to confiscate their well-being from you through sheer political power. Why should they set anything aside when they figure you'd only seize it if you ever gained power? -- that's what they've been doing.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 12:00 AM (EzgxV)

400 387 The Bush family are Whigs at heart. In both countries' senses of the word.


Heh!! Your right! I hadn't thought of that.

You know, the Whig Party still exists, sort of.

http://www.modernwhig.org/

Posted by: Jimmah Carter at September 12, 2016 12:00 AM (87EDE)

401 >>>This country has been kind and generous to the Bush family. They don't seem to recognize that.



Read my lips oops wrong Bush?


When your royalty you don't recognize the peasants

Posted by: Mis. Hum. at September 12, 2016 12:01 AM (voOPb)

402 If you were going to use a "secret Bat Signal" type of thing, the way it would work is this. You'd have a pre-arranged meeting or "dead drop" point. You send the signal. When your intended recipients see the signal, that means go to the pre-arranged meeting place or drop point, where the actual information would be given.

For example: All right boys, you will drive by my house every day. If you see the curtains of the left-most window half pulled, with a flower pot on the sill in the middle, that's the signal.

When you see that signal, you will go to a phone booth at the corner of blah-blah and so-and-so, at precisely 8PM that evening. You will receive a call shortly after. That will give you instructions. The instructions might be code words for some pre-arranged meeting place.

I'd make the call and simply say "Blue", which means we meet at Meeting Place A. If I say "Red", we meet a place B, etc, etc.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 12, 2016 12:01 AM (DW+jj)

403 Hrothgar, Jay, and anyone else who suggested DuckDuckGo, thanks. I've set it and it looks good. It looks good.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2016 12:02 AM (+lVUW)

404 "George Bush was a lousy president."

Kerry voter?

Posted by: navybrat


That doesn't follow. We all agree McCain was a horrible candidate. That doesn't mean we support Obama.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 12, 2016 12:02 AM (dtWKK)

405 Off second worst President evah sock!

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 12, 2016 12:02 AM (87EDE)

406 >>>They threw her in like a bag of rags. "Get this shit outta here!"

Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2016 11:52 PM (ragzU)
They should recruit Secret Service agents from former garbagemen. They've got that move down cold.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2016 11:53 PM (SRKgf)
<<<




Good thing her cankles are so "sturdy", otherwise they might have snapped a foot off the way she was dragging them, and they slapped against the van.

Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at September 12, 2016 12:02 AM (H9MG5)

407 Yeah, but Trump's a doody-head...


@AP
The AP has deleted a tweet of video of Hillary Clinton after the 9/11 memorial ceremony as we no longer have distribution rights.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 12:03 AM (V3IFq)

408 You're

Posted by: Mis. Hum. at September 12, 2016 12:03 AM (voOPb)

409 So, is it possible that the tick mark on Drudge is just a show of support for Trump?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 11, 2016 11:52 PM
---

Maybe?

But I read that the Drudge mark was supposed to be a heads up that something big was going down.

Is it true?

Who knows. Drudge might be trolling us, or maybe whatever is supposed to happen has not happened yet. Could even be a wikileaks thing.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 12, 2016 12:04 AM (tvyXw)

410 All right, time to call it a night.

'Night!

Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2016 12:04 AM (C47HG)

411 Yeah I personally like W but it was very tedious being a Bush supporter.

I used to say if you tried to carry water for them, they'd take your bucket and punch a hole in the bottom then hand it back.

I believe that W could not believe that the Democrats would use the war on terror as a political football. Yet even after it was abundantly clear he didn't change.

The result is that the lesson is smashmouth wins.

Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2016 12:04 AM (tewYv)

412 @AP
The AP has deleted a tweet of video of Hillary Clinton after the 9/11 memorial ceremony as we no longer have distribution rights.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 12:03 AM (V3IFq)


Hah!

That's also why you can't find any video, anymore, of the ayatollah being upended and tossed onto the ground during his funeral procession ... copyright ... sure ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 12:05 AM (zc3Db)

413 That Bing news feed has been bugging the hell out of me. Their getting rid of the headline about Hillary not being able to stand up, was the last straw.
I saw the video. She couldn't even make it 3 feet to get into the car, they surrounded her as she collapsed at the car door.

Remember all the questions about McCain's health. There's something wrong with her and it isn't pneumonia. Bing, like everyone else in the media, doesn't want to look at it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2016 12:06 AM (+lVUW)

414 @AP
The AP has deleted a tweet of video of Hillary Clinton after the 9/11 memorial ceremony as we no longer have distribution rights.



How Stalin of them.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 12, 2016 12:06 AM (87EDE)

415 I believe that W could not believe that the Democrats would use the war on terror as a political football. Yet even after it was abundantly clear he didn't change.

The result is that the lesson is smashmouth wins.

Posted by: blaster


Yeah, it's not like his dad had any experience with that sort of thing...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 12:07 AM (V3IFq)

416 I'd make the call and simply say "Blue", which means we meet at Meeting Place A. If I say "Red", we meet a place B, etc, etc.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

So is it Blue or Red?!?

Posted by: scrood at September 12, 2016 12:07 AM (3b9U4)

417 Yeah, this is my biggest problem with this man. He loves this country so much that he can't be bothered to stand up in defense of it not even once in the last 7+ yrs during all the traitorous Barky years? But he feels the need to make a statement along with all his family and not attend the Repub convention and say one word in favor of our nominee?

This country has been kind and generous to the Bush family. They don't seem to recognize that.


Yeah and nay.

If Bush said anything, the story would become 'Racist Bush hates Black President'.

If Bush endorsed Trump, it would be 'Trump intends to continue Bush's War in Iraq.'

When you don't control the narrative, say nothing. Especially don't say 'I'm not a witch.' even if it's true.

Posted by: Adriane the Talkative Critic ... at September 12, 2016 12:07 AM (AoK0a)

418 That's also why you can't find any video, anymore, of the ayatollah being upended and tossed onto the ground during his funeral procession ... copyright ... sure ...


Tearing apart the corpse is a traditional rite of muslim funeral practices involving prominent leaders.

Savages.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 12, 2016 12:07 AM (4HySM)

419 413: Bing = Microsoft.

Fascism has its "advantages".

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 12, 2016 12:08 AM (87EDE)

420 She has knee-monia. Makes it hard to walk more than six steps at once.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 12, 2016 12:08 AM (6FqZa)

421 Tickmark on drudge looks like a typo in html. It appears before the title tag.

Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2016 12:08 AM (tewYv)

422 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 12, 2016 12:01 AM (DW+jj)

I think Hillary is in critical condition right now. That episode going down on 9/11 would cause a freak out if the public knew she was in critical condition.

That was a damn body double they trotted out there for national security reasons on many levels. The woman is much skinnier, where's the hand bag on the opposite arm, zero secret service around her. The press still has not seen her.

I would not be surprised if she was on life support right now.

Hence the Drudge signal.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:08 AM (H8Bf9)

423 >> So is it Blue or Red?!?

Green.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 12, 2016 12:08 AM (DW+jj)

424 "So is it Blue or Red?!?"



Purple. Didn't they brief you on this?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 12, 2016 12:09 AM (y8GsO)

425 But I read that the Drudge mark was supposed to be a heads up that something big was going down.
Is it true?
Who knows. Drudge might be trolling us, or maybe whatever is supposed to happen has not happened yet. Could even be a wikileaks thing.


No idea, to be honest. Just figured the simpler explanation might make more sense. For all I know, it's a signal that he's being taken over by alien symbiotes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 12, 2016 12:09 AM (T/cxb)

426 329
Maybe Bush shoulda said hey obama you cant use the IRS like that.

Or Bush shouldve said hey obama, you can't lie to the American people about what's going on.
Posted by: Mister Magoo's at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (8LCz6)

Nope. Not up to him, and honestly, his time is past.

Now if the other idiot fucks who have held office would also sit down and shut up, we would be in business.

Do you really want JEF explaining life to Trump? Get real.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2016 12:10 AM (+YMhA)

427 I don't see a "drudge signal". All I see on Drudge is the usual headline of Little Mrs Stumbly and, below that, the much more feminine RuPaul.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 12, 2016 12:10 AM (6FqZa)

428 It's not a tick mark, it's just a bug on the screen.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 12, 2016 12:10 AM (z+83z)

429 That was a damn body double they trotted out there for national security reasons on many levels. The woman is much skinnier, where's the hand bag on the opposite arm, zero secret service around her. The press still has not seen her.

I would not be surprised if she was on life support right now.

Hence the Drudge signal.
Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:08 AM (H8Bf9)


But the 'body double' woman talked. You can check out the vid. That's Hillary's voice.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 12, 2016 12:10 AM (fgOnp)

430 I'm a structural engineer.

There are only a handful of structures built the way the towers were built--with a very strong, very redundant exterior skin. They effectively had a nearly continuous external steel load-bearing wall.

No one builds this way because it's stupid expensive, fairly inefficient, and has tiny window openings. The WTC architect was reportedly afraid of heights, and it was his decision to create a structure with small windows and a strong exterior wall to create a sense of safety for the building's users.

Here's my point: Virtually no other structural system would survive the kind of damage those towers took, plus the fire, for as long as those towers stood. The unintended and very favorable result of the architect's selection of structural system was ultimately the preservation of life as there was substantial time for those who could to make an exit from those buildings. I'm calling it Providential until someone proves otherwise.

Final thought; even though I ought to have been able to look objectively at those towers and know they were coming down, I was the same as everyone else that day: glued to the set and just hoping they wouldn't, and as shocked as anyone when they did.
Posted by: TexasDan at September 11, 2016 11:54 PM (TqXWc)


It also meant that you could have no interior walls aside from the elevator shaft.

Of course, take out floors keeping the exterior walls in place and eventually the walls will buckle and the building will collapse down on itself, which is what happened.

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 12:10 AM (vBeA5)

431 Gotta be awake in 5 hours. Night all.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 12:11 AM (YLidQ)

432 Just dropping in...
This country has been kind and generous to the Bush family. They don't seem to recognize that.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 11, 2016 11:52

I'm plenty pissed off at the Bushes, but shouldn't we reserve our fire for the Clintons?

Chi,
So today I'm getting the idea you aren't in the HillaryFanClub?



Posted by: Farmer at September 12, 2016 12:11 AM (o/90i)

433 Gulp, is it Green or Purple?

BRB, I gotta fuel up the vehicle. I've got a lot of driving to do.

Posted by: scrood at September 12, 2016 12:11 AM (3b9U4)

434 Remember all the questions about McCain's health. There's something wrong with her and it isn't pneumonia. Bing, like everyone else in the media, doesn't want to look at it.
Posted by: nerdygirl



@NBCPolitics 30 Sep 2008
1 in 4 chance McCain may not survive 2nd term http://tinyurl.com/4vcrc3

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 12:11 AM (V3IFq)

435 Hey, Sanofi-Pasteur has gotten permission to release the first anti-dengue vaccine in Brazil, the Philippines and Mexico.

this is really big

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2016 12:12 AM (e9hKK)

436 It also meant that you could have no interior walls aside from the elevator shaft.

Of course, take out floors keeping the exterior walls in place and eventually the walls will buckle and the building will collapse down on itself, which is what happened.
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 12:10 AM (vBeA5)


I was in WTC from time to time, and you are right, some of the office space which was fixtured for cubicles was basically wide open compared to a normal building.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 12, 2016 12:13 AM (fgOnp)

437 Posted by: TexasDan at September 11, 2016 11:54 PM (TqXWc)

Thanks for that perspective.

We took our little boy there in ~1998 to the restaurant, Windows on the World. The top floor windows were floor to ceiling, bigger than those in the rest of the tower. When we got off the elevator, our son ran straight to the closest window, which made my sister-in-law gasp. It was a scary view at first, but the kid loved it. He was thrilled with the entire evening we spent there.

Of course the attacks were horrifying to any normal person, but that tiny connection made it a little more personal to our kid.

I'm still pissed about Munich 1972, so Hillary was a nice distraction from the forboding I usually feel on this date. I always expect something bad to happen.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 12, 2016 12:13 AM (ozZau)

438 Was there confirmation they took her to chelseys apmt?.... the photo op outside later does not look like her. would not be surprized if hills in icu somewhere....

Posted by: E.T. at September 12, 2016 12:14 AM (c+7Ko)

439 ` is pretty lame compared to the flaming skull, though.



Posted by: Yuimetal at September 11, 2016 11:49 PM (dtWKK)

Maybe its a sign, like the 'star' in/outside the 'P' on the cover of Penthouse/Playboy/whatever it was thirty years ago.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 12:15 AM (P/kVC)

440 Hillary is sleeping one off at her dear daughter's place in Manhatten. The only reason she would faint in the heat is if she tied one on the evening before and hadn't gotten enough water the following day....

See? I can rumor monger too.

Who the hell knows?

I don't think the post-apartment Hillary is fat enough, but then, I have been avoiding looking at that bitch for months now, so she may have dropped a pantsuit size or two on the road.

Let's wait until we see her schedule the next few days, hey? I don't want her to go away mad, just to go away.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2016 12:15 AM (+YMhA)

441 @384....

Those with ANY education or understanding of the relevant sciences present that day at the Towers always reach the same conclusion.

The Towers EXCEEDED anyone's reasonable expectation for structural integrity longevity that day.

Literally 10000's of thousands of lives were saved because of how robust the Towers really were.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at September 12, 2016 12:15 AM (U+rJD)

442 Best thing for Trump to do would be to sympathize with Hillarys' condition. And leave it at that. Let the MSM make the next move. I'm positive they'll overshoot.

Posted by: Corona at September 12, 2016 12:15 AM (ragzU)

443 They threw her in like a bag of rags. "Get this shit outta here!"
----------

I think that they were eager as hell for the van to get there. They were probably aware of the fact that she could not stand unaided, and were prepared to help her in as quickly as possible, though they had not anticipated the collapse.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 12:16 AM (9mTYi)

444 >>I'm still pissed about Munich 1972, so Hillary was a nice distraction
from the forboding I usually feel on this date. I always expect
something bad to happen.

Was wondering what attack might happen today. Think maybe the cars w/fuel tanks they found parked next to Notre Dame and a synagogue in Marseilles could have been the plan?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 12:16 AM (NOIQH)

445 It's hard to compare Hillary from sighting to sighting because some of her ridiculous outfits are like she's wearing a frigging tent.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 12, 2016 12:16 AM (fgOnp)

446 The context of the question was what Bush should have done in the last 8 years, not while he was in office.



Reading comprehension is not really your thing, is it?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 11, 2016 11:50 PM (YLidQ)

Maybe started his own 'Bush Global Initiative' and offered poly-sci scholarships and publish position papers on current events.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 12:17 AM (P/kVC)

447 I've been away for a while. Well away from commenting that is. But I read you every day. Just wanted you all to know I love you morons.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at September 12, 2016 12:18 AM (kI9U5)

448 A hell of a lot of structure was lost when the planes went in. All that remained was for the heat to soften the steel. Then, look out below.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 12:18 AM (9mTYi)

449 Hillary lost a quick 50 pounds. There is also people that make a living being doubles for famous people including the voice.

This is not Hillary.

https://mobile.twitter.com/trumptup2016/status/775035114107514880/photo/1


Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:19 AM (H8Bf9)

450 very OT :

A strange, difficult day. Found out the an extended family member was abused by her father, or at least claimed to be. She was seriously messed up, so I'm not sure what to believe.

Also found out that my Aunt died. We have a very small family, and after my Mom died, she, her husband, and both of her kids- my cousins- totally dropped me. Calls not returned, no holiday cards, I don't exist. Never told me when her husband died, and to be honest, it was a strange coincidence that I found her death notice.

The funeral is tomorrow. I don't like these people, they have no use for me [black sheep conservative vs. wanna be limousine liberals]. I was not invited to the funeral, and do not plan on going.

Is this the right thing to do? I have had NO contact with any of these people in four years.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 12, 2016 12:19 AM (tvyXw)

451 It also meant that you could have no interior walls aside from the elevator shaft.

Of course, take out floors keeping the exterior walls in place and eventually the walls will buckle and the building will collapse down on itself, which is what happened.
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 12:10 AM (vBeA5)


No structure over just a few floors has interior load bearing walls. You see them in wood and CMU, but with steel and concrete the goal is to open up the usable floor.

But most steel and concrete frames have discrete load bearing elements--individual columns. When one column gets removed, a large area of floor is suddenly unsupported, and it's unlikely in the extreme that the resulting distribution of load to the other columns can be sustained.

This is why Murrah collapsed to the degree it did (Oklahoma City bombing). The bomb was not enough to take out 75% of that frame, but it took out some of it, and the rest fell like dominoes.

The WTC had column "trees" as the exterior skin--short, squat columns with "branches" connecting each to its neighbors. It had an incredible ability to share and redistribute load around those awful, gaping holes. Seriously, there are almost zero structures built like that. I once heard there were three total, but we're going by my memory of second hand information. Point is it's jaw-dropping the rarity of that system, and everything else would have pancaked virtually instantly (again, think Murrah for a more typical instance).

Posted by: TexasDan at September 12, 2016 12:20 AM (TqXWc)

452 No idea, to be honest. Just figured the simpler explanation might make more sense. For all I know, it's a signal that he's being taken over by alien symbiotes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 12, 2016 12:09 AM (T/cxb)


Reptilian shape-shifters creating 3-D illusion of reality from the rings of Saturn.

Posted by: gNewt....forever censored at September 12, 2016 12:20 AM (c80mr)

453 The Towers EXCEEDED anyone's reasonable expectation for structural integrity longevity that day.

Literally 10000's of thousands of lives were saved because of how robust the Towers really were.
Posted by: Hillbillyking at September 12, 2016 12:15 AM (U+rJD)

Most buildings, nearly all, are overbuilt for their purpose. That is built into the Building Code. Redundancy means safety, and after all the various collapses and building failures, even under duress, the Code recognizes that.

A building like the WTC would have had extra scrutiny when built, and any architect and/or engineer who stamped any drawings or specs would have demanded that it were overbuilt in order to stave off lawsuits, etc.

Yes, lives were saved by that, but by the same token, it took a completely unexpected structural disaster to bring them down. One that should never have happened.

I fear for many other buildings and occupants in the future, because these Muslim fucks will not stop trying. They hate us more than they love their children or their lives. You cannot reason with that, just kill it with fire, from space if necessary, and so far we have not had the resolve to do so.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2016 12:20 AM (+YMhA)

454 >>This is not Hillary.



https://mobile.twitter.com/trumptup2016/status/775035114107514880/photo/1



Don't know about the double, but I figured she was alone as a way to prove she could walk unassisted - as staged as the little girl running up to her.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 12:20 AM (NOIQH)

455 If POTUS goes to a non-Dem, there's no reason not to jail Hillary, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, the executive team at the IRS, etc. etc. etc. They've been playing the Big Lie and stonewalling for eight years, because they thought the party would never end, and there's enough dirt to put the lot of 'em in the pen.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 11, 2016 11:23 PM (EzgxV)


You left off Comey.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2016 12:21 AM (+lVUW)

456 The first time I visited NYC, I had a drink at Windows on the World. The view was spectacular.

And it was a place where out-of-towners could gape at the skyline. I wanted to look up at the skyscrapers when I was on the ground, but stop and gaze up to admire the Manhattan canyons and you'll get run over by the crowd. You'll also advertise that you are a Tourist From the Sticks.

Funny, I immediately started walking around twice as fast as I normally walk - just keeping up with the sidewalk traffic.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 12:21 AM (P8951)

457 I've had a grim foreboding of a terrible doom for days now. That itchy, twitchy feeling you get on the back of the neck, that reflexive flinch that you make before you even know you're about to get hit.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 12:21 AM (GokoV)

458 i dont think that was hills..... why would let the real hills do the photo op with the kid and risk her falling flat on her face in front of the world?. ... even if they pumped her full of meds. seems awful risky.

Posted by: E.T. at September 12, 2016 12:21 AM (c+7Ko)

459 Drove to JFK to go to work the night of the 10th for a JFK-GEO trip that left at midnight. Always marveled at the twin towers going across the Verrazano bridge. Flight to Georgetown, Guyane was uneventful, arriving at around 6 am. Quick turn and we headed back north to JFK. Just south of Puerto Rico ATC told us to contact company. They informed us that New York ATC had closed their airspace due to the two airliners hitting the twin towers and we were to proceed to Baltimore. Shortly thereafter we were told all US airspace was closed and we turned back south. Headed back to comply with ATCs instruction to all aircraft on frequency to land at the nearest suitable airport which would have been San Juan. Newly minted captain, a total company man, called the company and asked what should he do? I argued that we had no choice but to land in San Juan. Company wanted us to return to GEO to save $ and not have to pay for hotels for the pax. While he was kissing the companies ass ATC came on and said all aircraft on the frequency Land NOW! Asskisser wanted to go all the way back to GEO and I did everything but grab the controls to follow ATC to Land Now at San Juan. I asked to hold in San Juan airspace to try and convince the jack wagon we no longer had any choice in the matter. While we were holding ATC asked us what were our intentions. I grabbed the mic and said we were still trying to decide. They said to hurry up as we were the last airplane in their airspace and that they were going to evacuate the center as soon as we were down or clear of their airspace. New captain numb nuts decided we were going back to GEO. when we landed and were waiting for transportation to the hotel we were surrounded by Guyanese laughing and clapping about the attack on America and we spent the next several days in that hell hole.

Flew back to JFK when ATC opened American airspace and on final you could see the smoke rising from the WTC site. Everything I had been watching on TV for days became very, very real. Driving home I pulled in line at the Verrazano toll booth behind a truck carrying flattened cars stacked on top of each other. When the truck pulled away my car was covered with dust from the WTC site and I felt ill knowing what the dust might contain and grieving at what had happened to my fellow Americans.

When I finally got home I hugged my little girl tighter than I had ever before and I never talked to that sniveling little sonofabitch new captain company man for the next 10 years.

Always Remember, Never Forget.

Posted by: Alf767 at September 12, 2016 12:22 AM (qGI+A)

460 My point is if Hillary had a serious moment on 9/11 at the event and they did not trot out a healthy ringer, people would rightfully panic like as in an attempt on her life.

I hope I'm wrong, but my gut tells me she is in bad shape somewhere.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:22 AM (H8Bf9)

461 334 Hey Ricardo Kill and Puffy Scamper!
Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2016 11:40 PM (C47HG)


Sup?!

Posted by: Deplorable Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 12:22 AM (1JnAL)

462 The only reason she would faint in the heat is if she tied one on the evening before and hadn't gotten enough water the following day....


If she can't keep her shit together for less than an hour it takes to make a public appearance, she must really be in lousy shape.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 12, 2016 12:24 AM (dtWKK)

463 The 9/11 attack was designed to kill about 50,000. So was the 1993 attack, which it mercifully did not. My thought at the time was to react as if it were the larger number. Meet intention with intention, because when their plans fizzle, that's lucky for us, not them.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 12, 2016 12:24 AM (VdICR)

464 That itchy, twitchy feeling you get on the back of the neck

*shifty-eyes*

Posted by: well-planted deer tick at September 12, 2016 12:24 AM (XooQI)

465 I was not invited to the funeral, and do not plan on going.

Is this the right thing to do? I have had NO contact with any of these people in four years.
Posted by: shibumi


I wouldn't go.

But then again, I hate people, places, and things.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 12:24 AM (V3IFq)

466
I think Dr. Lisa Bardack jokes should become a meme. "I've concluded that he has a mild case of acne." -- Dr. Lisa Bardack on the Elephant Man

Posted by: iforgot has pix of 911 memorial in nic at September 12, 2016 12:24 AM (5o5ek)

467 Is this the right thing to do? I have had NO contact with any of these people in four years.

Yes, it's the right thing to do. They have excluded you and continue to exclude you.

They're probably going to talk shit about you no matter which course of action you do take, of course.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 12, 2016 12:26 AM (T/cxb)

468 454 >>This is not Hillary.



https://mobile.twitter.com/trumptup2016/status/775035114107514880/photo/1



Don't know about the double, but I figured she was alone as a way to prove she could walk unassisted - as staged as the little girl running up to her.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 12:20 AM (NOIQH

When is the last time you can remember Hillary being THAT alone? Years? Months?

I can't remember.

The press still has not seen her since that photo op and they were kept away and are being kept away.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:26 AM (H8Bf9)

469 Pepe the Irredeemable,

If Ward Churchill and Liawatha screwed they could have some lovely Indian children who aren't really Indians.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2016 12:26 AM (+lVUW)

470 Shibumi you go to a funeral for the family and for yourself.

If you don't want to go and they don't want you to be there, light a candle, say a prayer and go buy someone dinner or someone who needs a visitor.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2016 12:26 AM (e9hKK)

471
Chi,
So today I'm getting the idea you aren't in the HillaryFanClub?
------------------
Gee, whatever gave you that idea?


Aa couple hours ago, I heard a horrible cryING - like Tucker was in serious pain. I just up & ran to his couch (yeah, yeah), but he wasn't there.
Then I heard it again and realized it was coming through the open bathroom window. OH SHIT! A pit bull or something must've wandered in through the broken fence!

I grabbed the flashlight and ran out back. When I fanally found him, he had a giant possum in his mouth, shaking it around like maraca.
I think that makes number 4 or 5, I lost count.
I just let him play with it & came back in the house. Relieved, to say tbe least. Took an hour for my heart to lower back down out of my throat.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 12:27 AM (5Erk9)

472 Is this the right thing to do? I have had NO contact with any of these people in four years.
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 12, 2016 12:19 AM (tvyXw)


Any chance your cousins were led into this behavior by their Aunt and did not necessarily approve?

I would attend, simply because I think death is the time to rise above all the pettiness--and generally it's a lifetime of it--and acknowledge the connections of family and blood.

Your cousins may do something unkind in which case you'll have done your duty and be free of them. Or they may be overcome by your willingness to set aside their past actions and show honor to their mom.

Can't know unless you go, as with so much of life.

I attended a funeral of a man who knew he was dying, and who wrote out a message to be read. In it he apologized to someone for not attending the funeral of their spouse. It was a remarkable moment, hearing these words written by a man who knew he was passing, to someone he knew would be there, about when he callously missed the funeral of this person's spouse.

I, personally, will not be missing any funerals after hearing that. It was one of the boldest, most honest, albeit posthumous, apologies i have ever heard. I'd rather learn from it than have to write one of those myself.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 12, 2016 12:28 AM (TqXWc)

473 No, that isn't Hillary. But then, why be so upset about it? We are better off without that witch.

Really, even though we know they trotted out a fake (where are the Secret Service guys?), we have no idea what happened and what will happen, so....

Let's just hope she is getting the medical attention she should get and that the media finally asks what she is dying from and she goes away from the public eye for good.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2016 12:28 AM (+YMhA)

474 >>When is the last time you can remember Hillary being THAT alone? Years? Months?
I can't remember


I can't, either. At minimum, she always has SS detail + Huma right next to her or behind her.

Haven't seen Huma in any of the pics or video today....

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 12:28 AM (NOIQH)

475 Good evening roonz and roonettez. I remember.

Posted by: GGE of the Deplorable Horde, NC Chapter at September 12, 2016 12:28 AM (UDw5w)

476 If you don't want to go and they don't want you to be there, light a candle, say a prayer and go buy someone dinner or someone who needs a visitor.
Posted by: Kindltot


*damn, i should have written that*

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 12:29 AM (V3IFq)

477

it was a strange coincidence that I found her death notice.


Do not go. If there are ever any repercussions, mention, with a very slight sadness, that they dropped you [4] years ago, and said nothing about tomorrow's funeral.

You will then see what to do based on what happens.

Posted by: HOWARD DEAN (sniffing) at September 12, 2016 12:29 AM (FlRtG)

478 Uncle Palpatine, I hadn't seen you for a while, and was wondering if you were OK.

I know, the place I work has been extra stressed the last month. Not sure how much of that is bad personal choices on part of the personnel, and how much has been projection on my part, but it has been extra emo with a side of butthurt.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2016 12:30 AM (e9hKK)

479 448 A hell of a lot of structure was lost when the planes went in. All that remained was for the heat to soften the steel. Then, look out below.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc



THATS A LIE!!!!

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell, Theoretical Physicist at September 12, 2016 12:30 AM (87EDE)

480 When I first saw her trotting out from Chelsea's, I thought that it couldn't possibly be her. She looked so ill earlier, now she was smiling and laughing. Husband said they must keep some good shit at Chelsea's to get her to look like that. I thought it was Chelsea dressed like her mother, wig and all. I don't know what they did to her there, but I never felt good when I had pneumonia.

Posted by: Abby Coffey at September 12, 2016 12:30 AM (HBU7W)

481 469 Pepe the Irredeemable,

If Ward Churchill and Liawatha screwed they could have some lovely Indian children who aren't really Indians.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2016 12:26 AM (+lVUW)

Ha! What a pair they would make on the public stage. A large part of me wishes this match would materialize.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:30 AM (H8Bf9)

482 Well, to go OT, (heh) I successfully got my big coal-fired boiler moved. Decided last night, as I was trying to go to sleep, that I was over-thinking it. Today, I simply used my tractor to skid it over the ground on a succession of planks. Wasn't quite that easy, since I'd push it off one plank, then have to pick up the leading edge of the boiler with the loader, and slip the freed-up plank under the skids. Rinse and repeat. Took about 3 hours to move the darned thing on a 25-foot diagonal path, but it's now right where I want it, and sitting level. Woo-Hoo!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 12:31 AM (oqkO3)

483 Tillie's Story, posted at Free Republic since dipshit bicycle boy at LGF took the original down.

http://tinyurl.com/gpxpz6h

Posted by: Bob in Houston-Vast Right Wing Basket of Deplorable! at September 12, 2016 12:31 AM (b7AU3)

484 I wouldn't go.



But then again, I hate people, places, and things.
--

Thank you for your input Weft. As is turns out, I hate people, places and things as well.

Plus...I don't like them. They were never really nice to me as a child, only tolerated me as an adult. I don't feel comfortable going to a place where I have to console people I dislike.

Now, an interesting thing to report: When the Aunt's husband died, he was buried in the same local cemetery as my parents. Before he died, he said that he did not want to be buried with his wife.

She is now being buried in a national cemetery about 70 miles away; she's not a veteran, and I have no idea why she's going there.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 12, 2016 12:31 AM (tvyXw)

485 Woo-Hoo!

Congrats on a job well done.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 12, 2016 12:31 AM (T/cxb)

486 Kindltot - it's more just a generalized angst. Not for me or mine. It's weird.

Life's good - busy with work and the shop and the kiddos and my angel. Taking a break from the 'nieces' for a while. Lotta needless complications.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 12:32 AM (GokoV)

487 Did find a really nice walking stick. Heh...I've got my shillelagh for the late night walks, and this new (to me) black oak stick (looks like a knobkerrie) for daytime use. Sucks, getting old, but you do get some neat new accessories.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 12:34 AM (GokoV)

488 AOP, what are you doing with a coal-fired boiler? You going to start a mill or a power plant?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2016 12:34 AM (e9hKK)

489 474 >>When is the last time you can remember Hillary being THAT alone? Years? Months?
I can't remember


I can't, either. At minimum, she always has SS detail + Huma right next to her or behind her.

Haven't seen Huma in any of the pics or video today....
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 12:28 AM (NOIQH

That is indeed odd as well. But Huma is Brotherhood and if she showed up to the memorial, she could have brought dangerous shame to her family in the ME. That could be plausible for Huma being absent.

No doubt Shit got real today.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:35 AM (H8Bf9)

490 Posted by: Bob in Houston-Vast Right Wing Basket of Deplorable! at September 12, 2016 12:31 AM (b7AU3)

Thank you for finding that, Bob. I have cut and copied it.

The pony-tailed dickwad can't erase history.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 12:35 AM (P8951)

491 If Ward Churchill and Liawatha screwed they could have some lovely Indian children who aren't really Indians.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2016 12:26 AM (+lVUW)

Ha! What a pair they would make on the public stage. A large part of me wishes this match would materialize.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:30 AM (H8Bf9)


I think the Fauxcahoochie has past its "sell by" date for that to work out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 12:35 AM (oqkO3)

492 Most buildings, nearly all, are overbuilt for their purpose. That is built into the Building Code. Redundancy means safety, and after all the various collapses and building failures, even under duress, the Code recognizes that.

A building like the WTC would have had extra scrutiny when built, and any architect and/or engineer who stamped any drawings or specs would have demanded that it were overbuilt in order to stave off lawsuits, etc.

Yes, lives were saved by that, but by the same token, it took a completely unexpected structural disaster to bring them down. One that should never have happened.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2016 12:20 AM (+YMhA)


No, they're not overbuilt at all. We design specifically to the limit of the code; I won't have a job if I design something that costs $.25/square foot more than the next guy, because I throw extra on top for good measure.

Code forces (wind, earthquake) are the 100-year return maximums, and come from the best estimates we can come up with for what those would be--it's a straightforward combination of measured data and statistics. there's not a thing in there about planes hitting buildings.

Federal standards now have some additional redundancy (have to be able to remove any individual column and not have progressive collapse) and some have specific blast criteria.

A plane full of jet fuel will still be an awful hit on buildings designed that way, because of both the impact and the fire.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 12, 2016 12:35 AM (TqXWc)

493 "I have cut and copied it."

I meant copied and pasted it into a Word document.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 12:36 AM (P8951)

494 Before he died, he said that he did not want to be buried with his wife.

Ahh, twoo wuv. *snif*

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 12, 2016 12:36 AM (6FqZa)

495 Huma probably passed out candy to her relatives on 9/11.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 12:37 AM (P8951)

496 457 I've had a grim foreboding of a terrible doom for days now. That itchy, twitchy feeling you get on the back of the neck, that reflexive flinch that you make before you even know you're about to get hit.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 12:21 AM (GokoV)

---

You too?

This was the day I knew I was going to war.

Not exactly an easy day to forget, y'all...heh.

Posted by: SMFH at my irredeemable self... at September 12, 2016 12:38 AM (rlfds)

497 My point is if Hillary had a serious moment on 9/11
at the event and they did not trot out a healthy ringer, people would
rightfully panic like as in an attempt on her life.



I hope I'm wrong, but my gut tells me she is in bad shape somewhere.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:22 AM (H8Bf9)


Did 'Hillary' pop out of Chelsea's apartment before or after the one and only video of her getting tossed into the like a side of beef came out?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 12:38 AM (P/kVC)

498 Oh, and did have a funny Texas thing happen. Went to check on the shop at about 4 yesterday morning. Had a dude in there earlier, working on a gas heater.

Called him up, in spite of the hour. 'Did you forget something in the shop?' 'Why?' 'Because if you didn't, then a customer left me a Springfield XP as a tip.' Dude was there in 20 minutes.... dumbass.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 12:38 AM (GokoV)

499 AOP - Improves his carbon footprint.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 12:38 AM (OLNwX)

500 AOP, what are you doing with a coal-fired boiler? You going to start a mill or a power plant?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2016 12:34 AM (e9hKK)


Heat for my shop building. I had radiant heating pipes installed in the concrete floor when it was built. Coal can be had real cheap around here. The mines are grandfathered into selling it to small users at the same price paid by the electrical utilities. Just show up with a truck...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 12:39 AM (oqkO3)

501 Thanks for reposting Tillie's Story. That was one of the first pieces I ever read at *mumblegrumblespit*. Glad it was saved from the purge.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 12, 2016 12:39 AM (6FqZa)

502 John has a long mustache.

Posted by: Feeble beep at September 12, 2016 12:39 AM (IqV8l)

503 I've had a grim foreboding of a terrible doom for days now. That itchy, twitchy feeling you get on the back of the neck, that reflexive flinch that you make before you even know you're about to get hit.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants


Pffft. I've felt that way continuously for the past 7.5 years.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 12, 2016 12:39 AM (dtWKK)

504 Thank you everyone for your input. I do appreciate it. ((hugs))

This is the wife of my Mom's brother. My Mom told me that when people started to pass away, they would drop out of my life. I was prepared for this, and it wasn't a surprise.

Whenever faced with a decision like this, my Mom would say "What would Grace Kelly/Jackie O do?"

To that I would answer... not go. Not classy to be a gate crasher.

These people are not in my life, they were never really particularly kind to me, and cut me out of their life for no reason; they did the same to my other cousin. This all came up in a conversation with my Godfather, who knows them; he though a different woman from his late wife's family died. We looked her up; she passed on august 28th. Then, just to confirm it was just her (the two women have the same first name) I looked up my aunt and found out she died on Labor Day.

All very, very bizarre.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 12, 2016 12:40 AM (tvyXw)

505 Called him up, in spite of the hour. 'Did you forget something in the shop?' 'Why?' 'Because if you didn't, then a customer left me a Springfield XP as a tip.' Dude was there in 20 minutes.... dumbass.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 12:38 AM (GokoV)

---

I would make my soldiers regret the day they were born when they did that shit.

Posted by: SMFH at my irredeemable self... at September 12, 2016 12:40 AM (rlfds)

506 @430....

Cite any other examples of Modern Jet Passenger Planes plunging into a Skyscraper......Hmmm....any?

So what's a reasonable frame of reference for "what should've, would've, could've" happened?"

MMQBing how the Towers Engineers Failed on 9/11 is simply disingenuous.

The Towers lasted long enough that the body count was less than 3000. Given that 50000plus were there normally....it could've been soooo much worse.

If they'd have built a substandard structure, we'd be remembering 10000's of thousands more.

The point is, the buildings EXCEEDED expectations in an Unforeseeable Event, even in retrospect.

Pretty Fuckin Good Engineering, all things considered.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at September 12, 2016 12:40 AM (U+rJD)

507 Called him up, in spite of the hour. 'Did you forget something in the shop?' 'Why?' 'Because if you didn't, then a customer left me a Springfield XP as a tip.' Dude was there in 20 minutes.... dumbass.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 12:38 AM (GokoV)


That's pretty funny.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 12, 2016 12:40 AM (TqXWc)

508 99% confident now it was a double. Left side profile is not even close to Hillary.

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CsGqA0mWAAEAYoO.jpg

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:42 AM (H8Bf9)

509 >>>Don't know about the double, but I figured she was alone as a way to
prove she could walk unassisted - as staged as the little girl running
up to her.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 12:20 AM (NOIQH<<<




Yeah. Not sure about the double either.



I picture her in a heap, on the floor of Chelsea's place, as one of her crew brings out a "special medical kit" that's prepped for just such emergencies. They remove from the kit a massive syringe filled with adrenaline, that they then plunge into the atrophied black mass that should be a human heart. Her eyes bulge open, and she starts spinning around on the floor, whoop-whoop-whooping like Curly from the Three Stooges.



Now that she's conscious they know they have a limited window to get her downstairs for a photo-op, so they rush her outside where she is greeted by the little girl, she barks out a few words, and is whisked away once again for one of her usual restorative baths in the blood of 100 virgins.

Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at September 12, 2016 12:42 AM (H9MG5)

510 Sorry here is the link. It was a body double.

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CsGqA0mWAAEAYoO.jpg

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:44 AM (H8Bf9)

511 I'd like to see a gait analysis between the real Hillary and the person that bounded out of the apartment door this afternoon.

Also, she's being held up already at the start of that video. Her handler has her by the armpit, not the elbow, and she's leaning on that post, knees locked.

If you watch her feet, she gets dragged the entire way from that post into the van. You can see the sole of her right foot from the first stumble until it disappears in the crowd.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 12, 2016 12:44 AM (TqXWc)

512 And I heard my first radio spot for Gary Johnson. All he said was I will fight for you so give me your vote.

Dude, could you be any more vapid and vague?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 12:44 AM (et0bf)

513 >>...All very, very bizarre.

Estranged family can be tricky. My mom had in issue when her only sister died where her son treated her as if she had only shown up to the funeral to grab her stuff. ot kinda ugly with him and two of my aunt's closest friends treating her like an invader/pickpocket the whole time.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 12:44 AM (NOIQH)

514 shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people

You have to do what is your heart. I'd show up to show you love the family. Just me. Might lead to some reconciliation.

Posted by: Farmer at September 12, 2016 12:45 AM (o/90i)

515 99% confident now it was a double. Left side profile is not even close to Hillary.

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CsGqA0mWAAEAYoO.jpg

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:42 AM (H8Bf9)


Nose and cheeks look different. And fewer wrinkles on the one in the left pic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 12:45 AM (oqkO3)

516
The hard coal's called bituminous,
Or is that anthracite?
Stalactites grow down from caves,
Or do I mean stalagmites?
Those fluffy clouds are nimbus -
No - wait - they might be cumulus.
And that kid who was raised by wolves -
Was he Remus - or Romulus?

Posted by: Shel at September 12, 2016 12:45 AM (OLNwX)

517 99% confident now it was a double. Left side profile is not even close to Hillary.

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CsGqA0mWAAEAYoO.jpg
Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable


99% wrong.

She's wearing black glasses in the shot left and the color of the glasses is bleeding into the background. Plus the resolution on both pix has been reduced to less than adequate.

She a shitty enough candidate that you don't need to be engaging in fantasies.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 12:45 AM (V3IFq)

518 Mowgli Shel.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2016 12:47 AM (e9hKK)

519 Why would Hills cancel monday and tuesday events - she looked pretty good coming out of Chelsey's.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 12:48 AM (P/kVC)

520

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CsGqA0mWAAEAYoO.jpg

Is this link correct? It always fails for me: "DNS Server could not be found"

Posted by: Arbalest at September 12, 2016 12:49 AM (FlRtG)

521 Gary Johnson. Because dude weed lmao.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 12, 2016 12:49 AM (6FqZa)

522 471


Chi,

So today I'm getting the idea you aren't in the HillaryFanClub?

------------------

Gee, whatever gave you that idea?





Aa couple hours ago, I heard a horrible cryING - like Tucker was in
serious pain. I just up ran to his couch (yeah, yeah), but he
wasn't there.

Then I heard it again and realized it was coming through the open
bathroom window. OH SHIT! A pit bull or something must've wandered in
through the broken fence!



I grabbed the flashlight and ran out back. When I fanally found him,
he had a giant possum in his mouth, shaking it around like maraca.

I think that makes number 4 or 5, I lost count.

I just let him play with it came back in the house. Relieved,
to say tbe least. Took an hour for my heart to lower back down out of my
throat.



Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 12:27 AM (5Erk9)


He's certainly doing it for your stress level lately. It'd be nice if he gave it a rest for a while.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 12:49 AM (EzgxV)

523 Is this link correct? It always fails for me: "DNS Server could not be found"
Posted by: Arbalest


You have to add the letters 'eye em gee' in the place of the underscore ___.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 12:50 AM (V3IFq)

524 she looked pretty good coming out of Chelsey's.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 12:48 AM (P/kVC)

---

Phrasing!

Ugh.

Posted by: SMFH at my irredeemable self... at September 12, 2016 12:50 AM (rlfds)

525 Heh. Radiant heat. When my parents built their first house, my dad had radiant heat designed in. Oil-fired boiler.

I recall as a kid padding into the bathroom, and how deliciously warm the tile floor was.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 12:51 AM (OLNwX)

526 517 99% confident now it was a double. Left side profile is not even close to Hillary.

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CsGqA0mWAAEAYoO.jpg
Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable

99% wrong.

She's wearing black glasses in the shot left and the color of the glasses is bleeding into the background. Plus the resolution on both pix has been reduced to less than adequate.

She a shitty enough candidate that you don't need to be engaging in fantasies.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 12:45 AM (V3IFq)

Look at the nose. Not even close. That is not her profile and you don't lose 50 pounds in an hour. This was damage controll because she is so freaking sick. Forget how bad a candidate she is. I'm talking health failing on 9/11.

Add ___ in the space to make twing.


Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:51 AM (H8Bf9)

527 You have to do what is your heart. I'd show up to show you love the family. Just me. Might lead to some reconciliation.


Posted by: Farmer at September 12, 2016 12:45 AM
---

Thank you Farmer. And to everyone else who is saying 'just go,' I really admire the kindness and forgiveness in your heart.

Unfortunately, I'm not in this place with these people, so I should stay away.

They are social climbers, and I'm not the type of person they want in their life. If I was fabulously wealthy, well, that would be a different story. Although I've been estranged from them for four years, I've been treated badly by them my entire life; they did the same thing to my Dad. Neither one of us did anything to harm them; we were just too "blue collar" for their comfort.

So... I will sit this one out. And maybe, when I'm at a better place, say a prayer for my Aunt.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 12, 2016 12:51 AM (tvyXw)

528 Heya Chi.

Hi Cooth.

Stun collar in Tucker's future?

Posted by: SMFH at my irredeemable self... at September 12, 2016 12:51 AM (rlfds)

529

WCL: Thanks. I did not realize that those letters had to be removed, even from inside a string.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 12, 2016 12:52 AM (FlRtG)

530 The point is, the buildings EXCEEDED expectations in an Unforeseeable Event, even in retrospect.

Pretty Fuckin Good Engineering, all things considered.
Posted by: Hillbillyking at September 12, 2016 12:40 AM (U+rJD)

Yep.

A trivia note: A few years ago I read the baseball classic "The Boys of Summer" about the 1950's Brooklyn Dodgers. The right fielder, Carl Furillo, became a construction worker after his baseball career was done and at the time he was interviewed for the book he was working with his crew on building the Twin Towers.

A construction worker with a WS ring. Imagine any current Dodger -or any pro athlete today - putting on a hard hat and picking up his lunch pail and going to work like any Joe Sixpack.

Players were, of course, underpaid in those days. But most came from blue collar people and returned to the world of blue collar people when they left the bigs, although a few went on to college and lucrative careers. Today, a few years in the majors and smart money management means you can spend the rest of your life sitting on your ass on the beach after you retire - even if you're not a big star.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 12:52 AM (P8951)

531 99% confident now it was a double. Left side profile is not even close to Hillary.



https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CsGqA0mWAAEAYoO.jpg



Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:42 AM (H8Bf9)

Aw, Hills pushed her nose in on the rocker panel.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 12:52 AM (P/kVC)

532 And I heard my first radio spot for Gary Johnson. All he said was I will fight for you so give me your vote.

Dude, could you be any more vapid and vague?


Posted by: Anna Puma
****

(Holds up sign)
Will fight for weed.

Posted by: Gary Johnson at September 12, 2016 12:52 AM (hVdx9)

533 No idea, to be honest. Just figured the simpler explanation might make more sense. For all I know, it's a signal that he's being taken over by alien symbiotes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 12, 2016 12:09 AM (T/cxb)

Reptilian shape-shifters creating 3-D illusion of reality from the rings of Saturn.

Posted by: gNewt....forever censored at September 12, 2016 12:20 AM (c80mr)


I'll just leave this here:

Shape Shifting Reptilians are People Too

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mcefood

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 12:53 AM (vBeA5)

534 AOP, they have the annual Great Oregon Steam-Up her on the last weekend of each July and the first weekend of August. They do a lot of steam engines and have a steam powered mill.

I thought I was the rare guy who liked sawmills, but I was watching the bleachers fill up this year with rapt visitors all the way through the demonstration.

They also have a steam engine parade, but that has been going more to gas tractors and Rumley Oil Pulls and D-6 Cats recently, I have been told it is because of the requirement for each steam engine to get a boiler certification.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2016 12:53 AM (e9hKK)

535 Good night Rons and Ettes. Looking forward to the interesting week ahead and praying for our Country!

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 12:53 AM (H8Bf9)

536 Shape Shifting Reptilians are People Too
--

So glad I wasn't the one who had to introduce the Reptilian angle...

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 12, 2016 12:54 AM (tvyXw)

537 huh. The Langoliers is viewable on Youtube

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 12, 2016 12:54 AM (6FqZa)

538 (Holds up sign)
Will fight for weed.
Posted by: Gary Johnson at September 12, 2016 12:52 AM (hVdx9)

I still think he's taking more votes from Hill than from Trump.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 12:54 AM (P8951)

539 512 And I heard my first radio spot for Gary Johnson. All he said was I will fight for you so give me your vote.

Dude, could you be any more vapid and vague?
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 12:44 AM (et0bf)


Depends on if he was stoned during the commercial or not.

Posted by: buzzion at September 12, 2016 12:55 AM (z/Ubi)

540 It's official:

Clinton cancels campaign trip to California

http://tinyurl.com/h7jlhrv

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 12:55 AM (vBeA5)

541 I took the 50,000 number to come from population density and the assumption that they would fall during a regular day without time to evacuate. I read it a long time ago and I don't have any special knowledge on it.

The 1993 attack had a chemical element IIRC. The explosion was hot enough to burn it up, but not hot enough to crumble the base. Very lucky. They picked the corner nearest to the other tower, so that one of the towers would fall into the other. Smartly planned, poorly done. And not treated like an act of war by the US.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 12, 2016 12:55 AM (VdICR)

542 I've got it! Those are all clones of Hillary, but they have a short shelf life. When one breaks down, out comes a new one.
The process is expensive and difficult, but the real Hillary has been in a coma since 2012.

Posted by: Tilikum Irredeemable Killer Assault Whale-Skeet Surfer at September 12, 2016 12:56 AM (hVdx9)

543 The funeral is tomorrow. I don't like these people, they have no use for me [black sheep conservative vs. wanna be limousine liberals]. I was not invited to the funeral, and do not plan on going.
Is this the right thing to do? I have had NO contact with any of these people in four years.
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 12, 2016 12:19 AM

Just MHO but I'd go. Family is family. IMHO go and be proud. You will be the better person.

Posted by: Farmer at September 12, 2016 12:56 AM (o/90i)

544 Today, a few years in the majors and smart money management means you can spend the rest of your life sitting on your ass on the beach after you retire - even if you're not a big star.

And that's why we have those turds in the NFL throwing up a metaphorical finger at the US. They think they're not going to step back down to the rest of us.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 12, 2016 12:56 AM (6FqZa)

545 Heh. Radiant heat. When my parents built their first house, my dad had radiant heat designed in. Oil-fired boiler.

I recall as a kid padding into the bathroom, and how deliciously warm the tile floor was.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 12:51 AM (OLNwX)


My garage has radiant heat, operated by a 40-gallon domestic water heater burning natural gas, with a small Grundfos circulating pump. Has worked trouble-free for the 18 years I have been here.


The coal-fired "boiler", technically not a boiler, since it runs at atmospheric pressure, has enough capacity to heat the shop, the garage, and the house, which has hot-water baseboard heaters. But I will just plumb it up to the shop first.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 12:56 AM (oqkO3)

546 The first plane hit my best friend's office.
It was filled with a frsh batch of interns on their first day.
He was 10 minutes late that morning...
Nobody (who was there) in his firm made it out of their offices that day.

Remembering isn't the problem.

It's finding temperance that is difficult.

Posted by: garrett at September 12, 2016 12:57 AM (X0y+B)

547 Help. I had some Youtube crap which I'd left running and it got around to Wang Chung. I've now got "Dance Hall Days" running in my head and it won't come out!

Help.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 12, 2016 12:57 AM (DW+jj)

548 I thought I was the rare guy who liked sawmills, but I was watching the bleachers fill up this year with rapt visitors all the way through the demonstration.
----------

My grandfather was a farmer, but he also had a small sawmill. It was initially steam powered, but by the time I was old enough to visit, it used a gasoline engine. At the time, he was still using mules exclusively for farming.

Prior to the gasoline engine, the farm community relied on the steam whistle to announce noon. Different days.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 12:58 AM (OLNwX)

549 351 O/T but a school bus crash at the Denver airport killed the driver and injured a bunch of others.

A high school football team from my neighborhood was returning from a game in Chino, CA.

How do you feel about high school football, your kids flying to a game 1,000 miles and four states away?
Posted by: the littl shyning man at September 11, 2016 11:44 PM (U6f54)


I still have a hard time seeing Little League baseball games on television much less high school football.

Posted by: Deplorable Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 12:58 AM (1JnAL)

550 well, it is time for bed.

Joe, I hope you take some time off and reconsider. Hope to see you soon. But if not, I understand.

good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at September 12, 2016 12:59 AM (uAvJJ)

551 520




https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CsGqA0mWAAEAYoO.jpg



Is this link correct? It always fails for me: "DNS Server could not be found"



Posted by: Arbalest at September 12, 2016 12:49 AM (FlRtG)


The hamsters always sub underscores for I M G.

Not finding a DNS Server is another issue.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 12:59 AM (EzgxV)

552 So if we are dealing with clones of Hillary!, her melting into goo during a debate won't be because she is a witch then. Gotcha.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 12:59 AM (et0bf)

553 The coal-fired "boiler", technically not a boiler, since it runs at atmospheric pressure, has enough capacity to heat the shop, the garage, and the house, which has hot-water baseboard heaters. But I will just plumb it up to the shop first.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
------------

What is the practical temperature limit for pipes-in-slab?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:00 AM (OLNwX)

554 Stun collar in Tucker's future?
Posted by: SMFH
----------------
Nah.
It just scared the bejeezus out of me because it was so loud and sounded just like a hurting dog. He can go out there and hunt/kill whatever he wants. I'd rather he do that than lie in the window barking at UPS trucks.
Besides, he gets pretty proud of himself (I do too, honestly).

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 01:00 AM (5Erk9)

555 I wonder if radiant heat in the floor wouldn't be a good idea if I follow through and put tile in the bathroom floor.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2016 01:01 AM (e9hKK)

556 What is the practical temperature limit for pipes-in-slab?
Posted by: Mike Hammer

I mean, lower than radiator systems, no?. My baseboard system runs at 180 deg. F.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:01 AM (OLNwX)

557 If you are tired and/or sick to the stomach after trying to analyze all the footage of the flaccid lady in the vacuum cleaner bag...

A little palette cleanser:

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/selection-du-weekend-209-45.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 01:01 AM (et0bf)

558 And that's why we have those turds in the NFL throwing up a metaphorical finger at the US. They think they're not going to step back down to the rest of us.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 12, 2016 12:56 AM (6FqZa)

And how many of those idiots end up broke because they've spent millions on bling, whores and lavish houses. Or trusted " a friend" to give them investment advice.

"Hey, this Nigerian prince who emailed me says that if I send money to him, I'll make millions...."

That's why I said "smart money management."

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 01:03 AM (P8951)

559
NHS chiefs warn that hospitals in England are on the brink of collapse

http://tinyurl.com/gwrtnvd

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 12, 2016 01:04 AM (IqV8l)

560 528
Heya Chi.



Hi Cooth.



Stun collar in Tucker's future?

Posted by: SMFH at my irredeemable self... at September 12, 2016 12:51 AM (rlfds)


Hello, Sweetie!!! Did you have a nice Labor Day? What with the sell the aquarium/paint the house/sail to Alaska/do 60+ hours of CPE clusterfark, it's been quite the month.....but I'm happily looking forward to doing stuff in the coming week -- once I'm over the sick and the cleaning ladies have scrambled everything.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:04 AM (EzgxV)

561 I wonder if radiant heat in the floor wouldn't be a good idea if I follow through and put tile in the bathroom floor.


Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2016 01:01 AM (e9hKK)

Donald Trump recommends plastic tubing - no joints and the neighborhood thugs won't steal it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 01:05 AM (P/kVC)

562 It's official:
Clinton cancels campaign trip to California
http://tinyurl.com/h7jlhrv
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 12:55 AM

SURPRISE!

All this BS from her doc Lisa Bartok is suspicious. This campaign just lies continuously.

Posted by: Farmer at September 12, 2016 01:05 AM (o/90i)

563 *waves to SMFH*

Go Raiders right?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 01:05 AM (et0bf)

564 What is the practical temperature limit for pipes-in-slab?
Posted by: Mike Hammer

I mean, lower than radiator systems, no?. My baseboard system runs at 180 deg. F.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:01 AM (OLNwX)


Definitely less. Maybe 90-100 degrees? They tell me the trick is to use a blending valve to recirculate the bulk of the water* in the slab, just trickling in enough hot from the boiler to maintain that temperature.


*the system will be filled with water/glycol mix, as both the house and garage systems are. I don't even want to think about the consequences of pure water freezing in either the boiler or the slab.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 01:06 AM (oqkO3)

565 540
It's official:



Clinton cancels campaign trip to California



http://tinyurl.com/h7jlhrv

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 12:55 AM (vBeA5)


Wow. Her illness is more important to her than cash.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:07 AM (EzgxV)

566 Hey everybody.

Not sure what you all think of the name, but my community calls today "Patriot Day" and has been holding a concert at our largest park every year.

In the meantime, it's always something... I'm supposed to be dieting, but I keep getting 'addicted' to bad-for-me food treats. Now it's Jelly Belly beans. The coconut flavor in particular is to die for...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:07 AM (OKox0)

567 A little palette cleanser:

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/selection-du-weekend-209-45.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 01:01 AM (et0bf)


Awww...lambs and puppies!


Oh, it's "palate cleanser". Damn autocucumber!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 01:09 AM (oqkO3)

568 Autocucumber is going to be the dearth of us.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:09 AM (OKox0)

569 "Pneumatic" "Pneumonia" with no mention of anything electrical neurological is part of a pattern of weak and inadequate responses. It's fucking insulting to our intelligence.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 12, 2016 01:10 AM (VdICR)

570 10 pm alphabet channel Hildabeast canceling left coast visits this week.

Posted by: torabora at September 12, 2016 01:11 AM (Lh0b8)

571 >>Wow. Her illness is more important to her than cash.

Unfortunately California would stuff her pockets if she were laying flat in a casket.

Posted by: JEM at September 12, 2016 01:11 AM (TppKb)

572 Autocucumber is going to be the dearth of us.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:09 AM (OKox0)


Heh. Well-plaid.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 01:12 AM (oqkO3)

573

" ... clones of Hillary!!1! ..."


I strongly doubt that the Clinton Campaign is using doubles for Hillary!1!!!!! ...

... OTOH, I've spent the last 2 days fighting "north" midwestern progressive liberals on Facebook. I post links, photos, video clips, they evade the information. Real mind-control tards. They simply cannot address information counter to that which they believe.

Therefore, I believe that there is an infinitesimal-yet-non-zero probability that a double for Hillary exists, and might be used for extremely brief, low attendance (by true-believers only), brief-statement, no questions, look-I'm-still-alive-and-doing-fine appearances.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 12, 2016 01:13 AM (FlRtG)

574 Clinton cancels campaign trip to California

http://tinyurl.com/h7jlhrv


>>>She was supposed to campaign in San Francisco and Los Angeles to start this week, and tape an appearance for the "Ellen," show.


Maybe she was afraid that Ellen would ask her about the rumors about her and Huma.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 12, 2016 01:13 AM (dtWKK)

575 Definitely less. Maybe 90-100 degrees?
-----------
I was actually wondering about potential coefficient of expansion difficulties. What is the tubing made of?

----

*the system will be filled with water/glycol mix, as both the house and garage systems are. I don't even want to think about the consequences of pure water freezing in either the boiler or the slab.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

-------
Okay, well, that is way different, as my system is pressurized plain water via a regulator from the city water supply, 12 psi. It has frozen however (blizzard of '93) when power was out for some days. Predictable results, cracked boiler, ruptured line. I now keep kerosene heaters and fuel on hand in the event of a repeat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:13 AM (mxCgt)

576 AOP, Tom Hanks you! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:15 AM (OKox0)

577
Wow. Her illness is more important to her than cash.
Posted by: cthulhu
--------------------
That's when you KNOW it serious.

BTW, I hope ace or the cobs don't run with this body double conspiracy. I think by law we would have to lose the "smart" out of smart military blog.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 01:15 AM (5Erk9)

578 Tubing in the slab is PEX.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 01:15 AM (oqkO3)

579 If she is bailing on Ellen, that is a big thing. Guess they need to find another body to download Hillary! into.

As long as the auto-cucumber doesn't have a thing that goes up! we should be okay. Maybe.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 01:16 AM (et0bf)

580 557
If you are tired and/or sick to the stomach after trying to analyze all
the footage of the flaccid lady in the vacuum cleaner bag...

A little palette cleanser:

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/ 2016/09/selection-du-weekend-209-45.jpg


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 01:01 AM (et0bf)


Another excuse to roll out this one -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMq8XS4LhE

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:16 AM (EzgxV)

581 Mmm, mmm, mmm. Hillary, girl, we got to talk.

Posted by: Donna Brazile at September 12, 2016 01:16 AM (dtWKK)

582 I remember one weird 9/11 story: some dude who worked in the Twin Towers skipped work to spend the day with his mistress, who lived on Long Island.They spent the morning in the sack, with no TV or radio on. His wife, worried as hell and with no knowledge of his girlfriend, called his cell phone after the Towers fell. She asked him if he was OK. He said, I'm fine, dear, just got out of a meeting, everything is OK, why do you ask?

She filed for divorce the next day.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 01:16 AM (P8951)

583 Tubing in the slab is PEX.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----

Okay. No sweat then.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:16 AM (mxCgt)

584 BTW, I hope ace or the cobs don't run with this body double conspiracy. I think by law we would have to lose the "smart" out of smart military blog.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 01:15 AM (5Erk9)


Hell of it is, you know they would do it, if they thought they could get away with it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 01:17 AM (oqkO3)

585 BTW, I hope ace or the cobs don't run with this body double conspiracy. I think by law we would have to lose the "smart" out of smart military blog.
Posted by: Chi
-------

It is, I am afraid, wishful thinking.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:18 AM (mxCgt)

586 >>>A little palette cleanser:


Turpentine?

Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at September 12, 2016 01:19 AM (dtWKK)

587 BTW, I hope ace or the cobs don't run with this body double conspiracy. I think by law we would have to lose the "smart" out of smart military blog.
Posted by: Chi
-------

It is, I am afraid, wishful thinking.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:18 AM (mxCgt)


I'll just leave this here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hundred_Days_of_the_Dragon

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 01:19 AM (vBeA5)

588 Cthulhu I kept waiting for the sunflowers to shoot poison darts at the guy, "Feeders of Baaaaaaa!!!!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 01:20 AM (et0bf)

589 Mmm, mmm, mmm. Hillary, girl, we got to talk.
Posted by: Donna Brazile


Hard to do when Hil's just swallowed her tongue for the third time that day...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:20 AM (OKox0)

590 In the meantime, it's always something... I'm supposed to be dieting, but I keep getting 'addicted' to bad-for-me food treats. Now it's Jelly Belly beans. The coconut flavor in particular is to die for...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:07 AM

Just stop it, they're not that good. Go buy pretzels and dip them in creamy cheddar cheese. That will fix it, I'm sure.

Posted by: Farmer at September 12, 2016 01:20 AM (o/90i)

591 The video on Drudge has vanished.

Posted by: navybrat at September 12, 2016 01:20 AM (w7KSn)

592 BTW, I hope ace or the cobs don't run with this body
double conspiracy. I think by law we would have to lose the "smart" out
of smart military blog.



Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 01:15 AM (5Erk9)





Hell of it is, you know they would do it, if they thought they could get away with it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 01:17 AM (oqkO3)

...Any of a hundred Hillary lies...

"Hillary is not sick"
"That is not a body double"
That sure was easy.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 01:20 AM (P/kVC)

593 Farmer, hmmmmmmmmm....... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:21 AM (OKox0)

594 Not sure what you all think of the name, but my community calls today "Patriot Day" and has been holding a concert at our largest park every year.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:07 AM (OKox0)

--------------------------
I don't like it at all. Maine and Mass. have long celebrated Patriot's (Patriots') Day on April 19. This infringes on it.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 12, 2016 01:21 AM (NUqwG)

595 BTW, I hope ace or the cobs don't run with this body double conspiracy. I
think by law we would have to lose the "smart" out of smart military
blog.
---

Actually, it's not a double. It's her clone. They wanted to put her soul in it, but she said no, knowing that once she did that, they didn't need to keep her alive.

/or she's a Reptellian.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 12, 2016 01:22 AM (tvyXw)

596 588
Cthulhu I kept waiting for the sunflowers to shoot poison darts at the guy, "Feeders of Baaaaaaa!!!!"


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2016 01:20 AM (et0bf)


Heh. The Fiancee was running a marathon of TOS in the other room earlier tonight.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:22 AM (EzgxV)

597 591 The video on Drudge has vanished.
Posted by: navybrat at September 12, 2016 01:20 AM (w7KSn)

The links to it are still working. Hell, it's posted on the NY Times website.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 01:23 AM (P8951)

598 Good night, horde.

It's already Monday morning. ugh....

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 01:24 AM (P8951)

599
Hell of it is, you know they would do it, if they thought they could get away with it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----------------------
Of course. And, as Arbalest said, there's possibly one out there, but they didn't trot her out today.
She had another "episode," was given time & a JFK cocktail, then whisked away.

*I'm going to use a neighbor's scale tomorrow to get an idea of shipping weight so I can at least get an estimate. I'll get back to you sometime in the afternoon .

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 01:24 AM (5Erk9)

600 AOP - Also, pumps. Bell & Gossett Model 100's here, three of them. By god, I'm attached to those things. They've become like old friends. I have picked a couple out of the discard pile at the local recyclers. I keep two rebuilt ones on hand at all times. If one develops a weepy seal or bad bushing, I just plug in one that I have rebuilt sitting on the shelf.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:25 AM (J3phO)

601 Chi had mentioned pedometers the other day -- http://sellout.woot.com/plus/pedometerama? ref=so_cnt_wp_7#ref=sellout.woot.com/ content/plus@7.14/368x366

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:26 AM (EzgxV)

602
The video on Drudge has vanished.

Posted by: navybrat at September 12, 2016 01:20 AM (w7KSn)


https://vid.me/UjS5

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2016 01:26 AM (P/kVC)

603 Yeah, video has been removed by the user lol

Posted by: BuckIV at September 12, 2016 01:27 AM (CLfqv)

604 Farmer, hmmmmmmmmm....... ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:21 AM

OK, I'm done w/ the pretzels in cheddar cheese. Nite all, thanks for fun on the ONT. Work beckons tomorrow.

Posted by: Farmer at September 12, 2016 01:29 AM (o/90i)

605 The video on Drudge has vanished.

Posted by: navybrat


Drudge's link is still there. However the youtube user who posted it removed it, probably because of all the blowback he was getting at posting a reversed video.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 12, 2016 01:29 AM (dtWKK)

606 455
If POTUS goes to a non-Dem, there's no reason not to jail Hillary,
Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, the executive team at the IRS, etc. etc.
etc. They've been playing the Big Lie and stonewalling for eight years,
because they thought the party would never end, and there's enough dirt
to put the lot of 'em in the pen.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 11, 2016 11:23 PM (EzgxV)



You left off Comey.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2016 12:21 AM (+lVUW)


And then there's the thought of just JDAM'ing Soros in his bed and pretending that the US Government had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:29 AM (EzgxV)

607 Yeah, video has been removed by the user lol

Posted by: BuckIV at September 12, 2016 01:27 AM (CLfqv)


Maybe somebody bought the copyright to the video, and is trying to suppress it by way of lawyers' letters?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 01:30 AM (oqkO3)

608 Not sure what you all think of the name, but my community calls today "Patriot Day" and has been holding a concert at our largest park every year.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 12, 2016 01:07 AM (OKox0)

--------------------------
I don't like it at all. Maine and Mass. have long celebrated Patriot's (Patriots') Day on April 19. This infringes on it.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 12, 2016 01:21 AM (NUqwG)


How about "Kill the Bastards!" Day?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 01:31 AM (vBeA5)

609 Yeah, video has been removed by the user lol>>>

Did the Clinton Foundation find a "poor" person deserving help to finally spend some of their cash on?

Posted by: Willy J. at September 12, 2016 01:31 AM (9/8em)

610 582 I remember one weird 9/11 story: some dude who worked in the Twin Towers skipped work to spend the day with his mistress, who lived on Long Island.They spent the morning in the sack, with no TV or radio on. His wife, worried as hell and with no knowledge of his girlfriend, called his cell phone after the Towers fell. She asked him if he was OK. He said, I'm fine, dear, just got out of a meeting, everything is OK, why do you ask?

She filed for divorce the next day.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 12, 2016 01:16 AM (P8951)


LOL.

Posted by: rickl at September 12, 2016 01:31 AM (sdi6R)

611 She's canceled two appearances....this is an indication that there's a problem they can no longer avoid dealing with.

Will she make it to the debates? Or will she have to cancel those, too? At her age, once you get sick and down, you almost never get up again.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 01:31 AM (GokoV)

612 G'night T and everyone else leaving or that has left.
I was trying to pick up Slapweasel's task of greeting/farewelling everyone, but I just don't have it in me today.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 01:31 AM (5Erk9)

613 Good night, horde.

It's already Monday morning. ugh....

Posted by: Donna&&&&V


Can't get to sleep. It's like Christmas Eve. Can't wait to see what happens to her tomorrow.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 12, 2016 01:32 AM (dtWKK)

614 How about "Kill the Bastards!" Day?>>>

Or classical "Decimate Day"

Posted by: Willy J. at September 12, 2016 01:33 AM (9/8em)

615 How about "Kill the Bastards!" Day?
Posted by: The Political Hat
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Day of Unrequited Vengefulness

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:33 AM (J3phO)

616 In an odd twist I want the MSM lies to keep Hillary's candidacy afloat until election day. If shes out I think the Dems have a better chance.

Posted by: Willy J. at September 12, 2016 01:36 AM (9/8em)

617 If Bin Laden hadn't emboldened and directed Islamic rage towards us, I wonder if we'd have to deal with the Omar Mateens, Tsarnaevs, Nidal Hassans, ISIS, shoe bomber, and all the other terrorist scum that came out of the woodwork since 9/11. I liked the good old days, when we just ignored each other.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 12, 2016 01:38 AM (dtWKK)

618 Can't get to sleep. It's like Christmas Eve. Can't wait to see what happens to her tomorrow.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 12, 2016 01:32 AM (dtWKK)


If you consider Hillary's "pneumonia" to be the first seal of the apocalypse...

Posted by: The Apocalyptic Hat at September 12, 2016 01:39 AM (vBeA5)

619 In other news, https://www.yahoo.com/news/ california-nears-adoption- energy-saving-rules-computers- 020526404.html

For anyone who is not familiar with semiconductors, there is a certain energy cost in flipping a bit. Quantum mechanics says that there is a definite lower bound to this cost.

So, if California is looking to lower energy costs, it must insist that users either flip fewer bits or flip them less often.

I'm sure that Silicon Valley will thrive when it must choose less capable computers or slower ones.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:41 AM (EzgxV)

620 610
582 I remember one weird 9/11 story: some dude who worked in the Twin
Towers skipped work to spend the day with his mistress, who lived on
Long Island.They spent the morning in the sack, with no TV or radio on.
His wife, worried as hell and with no knowledge of his girlfriend,
called his cell phone after the Towers fell. She asked him if he was OK.
He said, I'm fine, dear, just got out of a meeting, everything is OK,
why do you ask?



She filed for divorce the next day.

Posted by: DonnaV. deplorably brandishing
ampersandsso there at September 12, 2016 01:16 AM
(P8951)



LOL.

Posted by: rickl at September 12, 2016 01:31 AM (sdi6R)


Being dishonorable allowed him to live another day -- were he faithful, he might have been pulverized in the debris as so many better men (and women) were.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:44 AM (EzgxV)

621 I liked the good old days, when we just ignored each other.
Posted by: Yuimetal
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But we didn't ignore them. We helped train them, arm them and prop up their leaders. And tured a blind eye to the fact that islam is a seventh century death cult.
And they certainly havenot been ignoring the us...

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 01:44 AM (5Erk9)

622 >>>So, if California is looking to lower energy costs, it must insist that users either flip fewer bits or flip them less often.


640MHz ought to be fast enough for anybody.

Posted by: Bill Gates at September 12, 2016 01:45 AM (dtWKK)

623 #617

Bin Laden was just one of many. According to 'The Looming Tower', most of the plotters didn't think much of Bin Laden as a operations planner but found him useful as a figurehead. The pace of activity had been building since before Bin Laden became a big name in jihadist circles and though the details would have played out differently, the conflict was inevitable. The fanaticism and will to power had been there for centuries and the oil money made it their other big export.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 01:46 AM (IdCqF)

624 I liked the good old days, when we just ignored each other.
Posted by: Yuimetal
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To paraphrase, You may not be interested in Islam, but Islam is interested in you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:46 AM (J3phO)

625 So, if California is looking to lower energy costs, it must insist that users either flip fewer bits or flip them less often.
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So, we'll have our flops issued to us.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2016 01:48 AM (J3phO)

626 I'm sure that Silicon Valley will thrive when it must choose less capable computers or slower ones.

Go for it, California!

Posted by: Arizona at September 12, 2016 01:48 AM (T/cxb)

627 G'night T and everyone else leaving or that has left.
I was trying to pick up Slapweasel's task of greeting/farewelling everyone, but I just don't have it in me today.
Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 01:31 AM

You have done a good job. I still hope Slap will stop by, always enjoyed him.

Bedtime here, all you Deplorables. Be well.

T

Posted by: Farmer at September 12, 2016 01:48 AM (o/90i)

628 @603 Yeah, video has been removed by the user lol
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It's still up on the Twitter site. And CNN's story has a link to the video on Twitter.

Of course, in the story that CNN ran, they only show the segment of the video that shows Hillary standing while waiting. The story doesn't include the part of the video where she's unable to stand on her own two feet while being moved to the van. But anyone who reads the online article and clicks the video linked halfway through the article can see the entire thing.

Posted by: junior at September 12, 2016 01:50 AM (YCyzO)

629 The point is, the buildings EXCEEDED expectations in an Unforeseeable Event, even in retrospect.

Pretty Fuckin Good Engineering, all things considered.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at September 12, 2016 12:40 AM (U+rJD)


The Twin Towers were designed to take an impact from a jet. Seeing that jets routinely flew right by the area and that the Empire State building had been hit by one earlier.

IIRC, the story on the weakness came from them not using asbestos-based flame retardant on the beams and the retardant they used burned away from the fire.

Also, people at the World Trade Center didn't expect the first tower to fall because they told people to go back up the second tower after the initial hit.

That said, the second tower was hit in the corner, which made it particularly bad. I figured that that tower was coming down because of that. I don't know if that was a big issue since I've never seen anyone say too much about it but my thought when I saw it was that hitting the corner was much more devastating to the integrity of the structure than a straight-on hit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 01:56 AM (zc3Db)

630 622
>>>So, if California is looking to lower energy costs, it must
insist that users either flip fewer bits or flip them less often.





640MHz ought to be fast enough for anybody.

Posted by: Bill Gates at September 12, 2016 01:45 AM (dtWKK)


Yeah, I was there -- it was "640K of memory ought to be enough for anyone". The original IBMPC had a 4.77MHz 8088 (16-bit processor choked to 8-bits), something less than 640K of RAM (until you stuffed it), and a SSDD 5.25" floppy disk -- and cost a couple of grand before a hard disk.

A Raspberry Pi 3 has a 1.2GHz 64-bit quad-core processor, 1G of RAM, and a SD card of 16/32G for $35.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:56 AM (EzgxV)

631 I'm sure that Silicon Valley will thrive when it must choose less capable computers or slower ones.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:41 AM (EzgxV)


Just on average, right?

They can sell whatever they want outside of California.

Inside of California, they will get all the capacity because they are the ones who deserve it, right? As for everyone else in California... ain't the serfs supposed to not waste time on their iPhones and shut up while they serve their masters organic arugila in quaint little hippie restaurants?

Posted by: The Anti-Arugila Hat at September 12, 2016 01:57 AM (vBeA5)

632 I strongly doubt that the Clinton Campaign is using doubles for Hillary!1!!!!! ...

Posted by: Arbalest at September 12, 2016 01:13 AM (FlRtG)


Yeah ... I wouldn't go with that "double" argument, either. Seems much too far-fetched with no real upside to it, anyway.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 01:58 AM (zc3Db)

633 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 12, 2016 01:58 AM (T/cxb)

634 If Bin Laden hadn't emboldened and directed Islamic rage towards us, I wonder if we'd have to deal with the Omar Mateens, Tsarnaevs, Nidal Hassans, ISIS, shoe bomber, and all the other terrorist scum that came out of the woodwork since 9/11. I liked the good old days, when we just ignored each other.
Posted by: Yuimetal


I wonder if Pakistan and the House of Saud hadn't funded and encouraged them, that we would have stupidly tripped into the wrong wars that couldn't be won with the current electorate.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2016 01:58 AM (V3IFq)

635 631
I'm sure that Silicon Valley will thrive when it must choose less capable computers or slower ones.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 01:41 AM (EzgxV)



Just on average, right?



They can sell whatever they want outside of California.



Inside of California, they will get all the capacity because
they are the ones who deserve it, right? As for everyone else in
California... ain't the serfs supposed to not waste time on their
iPhones and shut up while they serve their masters organic arugila in
quaint little hippie restaurants?

Posted by: The Anti-Arugila Hat at September 12, 2016 01:57 AM (vBeA5)


I'll give you a hint -- all the computation will be outsourced to remote facilities in third-world countries, and it'll be streamed back to passive idiot devices in the US.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 02:01 AM (EzgxV)

636 #630

Actually, it's apocryphal. Nobody has ever been able to point to where the supposed quote originated. An issue of Byte from the same era has a short article from Gates suggesting the ability to access greater amounts of memory would one of the major features of the progressing micro business. It was understood that nearly everything was limited by that factor but costs and available tech were what they were at the moment.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 02:03 AM (IdCqF)

637 And then there's the thought of just JDAM'ing Soros in his bed and pretending that the US Government had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: cthulhu


I prefer redition to Malaysia, where he is beaten to death on the tarmac or lives his last days in a cockroach infested hole, when I'm feeling merciful.

Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2016 02:03 AM (ngn8T)

638 There are many interesting limits on computation that physics sets. This area is not something I know that much about. But there are limits on how much computional power you can pack into a volume of space, and how fast one can do operations. These limits are YUGE compared to what we can do now.

There an interesting number. 10^93. That is a limit to the number of operations (or bits). Anyway, this number exceeds something that a computer the mass of the earth, in the volume of the earth, could compute in the 4.5 billion year lifetime of the earth. :-)

Anything above that is called a "transcomputational number". There are known problems that exceed the transcomputational limit, and are thus considered "practically impossible".

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 12, 2016 02:03 AM (DW+jj)

639 G'night, Blanco.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 02:05 AM (5Erk9)

640 In case you missed it, the world's seventh largest shipping company, Hanjin, just went bankrupt. Ports all over the world are refusing to let their ships dock before they know how they'll get paid.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 02:05 AM (EzgxV)

641 Publius - it's 42. Deep Thought tokd me so.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 02:07 AM (EcmoH)

642 629
The Twin Towers were designed to take an impact from a jet. Seeing that jets routinely flew right by the area and that the Empire State building had been hit by one earlier.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 01:56 AM (zc3Db)


Nitpick, but the Empire State Building was hit by a B-25 in 1945, not a jet. That was a twin-engine propeller plane that was puny compared to a modern jet airliner.

Posted by: rickl at September 12, 2016 02:08 AM (sdi6R)

643 638
There are many interesting limits on computation that physics sets. This
area is not something I know that much about. But there are limits on
how much computional power you can pack into a volume of space, and how
fast one can do operations. These limits are YUGE compared to what we
can do now.

There an interesting number. 10^93. That is a limit
to the number of operations (or bits). Anyway, this number exceeds
something that a computer the mass of the earth, in the volume of the
earth, could compute in the 4.5 billion year lifetime of the earth. :-)


Anything above that is called a "transcomputational number". There are
known problems that exceed the transcomputational limit, and are thus
considered "practically impossible".


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 12, 2016 02:03 AM (DW+jj)


There's an intriguing theory that a black hole's "event horizon" has to do with quantum limits on data transmission per square centimeter more than conventional physics' models.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 02:09 AM (EzgxV)

644 Yeah ... I wouldn't go with that "double" argument, either. Seems much too far-fetched with no real upside to it, anyway.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 01:58 AM (zc3Db)

Generally, i would agree.

However, after seeing a few conspiracy theories in recent years proven right (gold, silver and LIBOR manipulation, to name a few), I rule out nothing at this point.

Posted by: Country Boy at September 12, 2016 02:10 AM (W/Si3)

645 There an interesting number. 10^93. That is a limit to the number of operations (or bits).

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 12, 2016 02:03 AM (DW+jj)


Meh. Not even a google.

10^40 is the largest "physical" number. The average number of electrons in the universe ... the ratio of sizes largest to smallest ... lots of measures of physical extent seem to come in around 10^40 as the limit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 02:10 AM (zc3Db)

646 Late night greetings from the middle of the country.

This great country, which can be made greater again.

Not gonna read 600+ comments right now. Maybe later.

I've mentioned this every year, but here it is again.

We had no TV at home, and knew nothing about what was going on until Milady and I drove into town. I know just where we were on our commute when I turned on the radio.

The first we heard was some substitute for Limbaugh saying he was stuck in Florida, and was all right. Curious.

Next a news guy started talking about closing refineries in the southwest. WTF?

Then a news guy gave that rarest of things, a succinct re-cap for folks just tuning in: "The World Trade Centers are gone." Just like that.

I didn't know how, didn't know about the planes, or anything else yet, I would pick that up as we turned around and drove back home. I just knew one thing: the bastards said they would do it, and they did. Damn them.

Sat down with our three mostly-grown kids at home and told them what we knew. I told them, this is your generation's Pearl Harbor. Everything changes after this. Fifteen years later, that seems to have been right, even if the after-effects of the ongoing, often pitifully-fought war on Islam differ from the all-out war on Japan and Germany.

We all drove to town and opened our then-sorta-closed little cafe for the day - had a few friends drift in - and watched numbly as the TV played out the fall of the towers over and over, and got the details on the Pentagon and Flight 93.

There's one other thing I thought, as the day wore on: That's it? That's all you got? You pitiful, cowardly punks!
Maybe a weird kind of feeling, but as big a dent as they put in the country, it was only a dent. God bless America.

"The World Trade Centers are gone." Yeah, I'm not likely to forget that in a hundred lifetimes.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the war goes on at September 12, 2016 02:11 AM (Gzt/W)

647 Oh and by the way, that was a missile launch off the coast of LA back in 2010.

Posted by: Country Boy at September 12, 2016 02:12 AM (W/Si3)

648 Does anybody know whether or not Hill Force One has clearance to land at Moffett Field?

(Hillary. as you may know, a few months ago finally leased a 737 for private use after so many complaints that she was abusing military transport. She renamed and repainted the plane "Hill Force One.")

I know for a fact that when Trump came to the Bay Area, he landed at SFO (because I saw his motorcade existing the SFO tarmac along a side exit).

But I have this suspicion that, either because O-Bomb-a grants her official permission or because she's a former Sec of State or whatever that she has clearance to land her private 737 at Moffett Field (military air field south of SFO), because mere civilian airports are beneath her status.

But...maybe not. Anybody have a clue?

If (and that's still a big IF) Hillary "recovers" from her "pneumonia" tomorrow, she's scheduled for an 8am liftoff from NY to the SF Bay Area.

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:12 AM (jBuUi)

649 O/T but a school bus crash at the Denver airport killed the driver and injured a bunch of others.

A high school football team from my neighborhood was returning from a game in Chino, CA.

How do you feel about high school football, your kids flying to a game 1,000 miles and four states away?
Posted by: the littl shyning man

I went to hs in Utah, driving overnight to games or matches in Co (Fruita), Southern UT, Nevada, Idaho, or Wyoming was normal. I was well prepared for wrapping up in my wobbie and sleeping on a bus before the Army.

Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2016 02:13 AM (ngn8T)

650 existing the SFO tarmac = exiting the SFO tarmac

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:13 AM (jBuUi)

651 "457 I've had a grim foreboding of a terrible doom for days now..."
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 12:21 AM (GokoV)



Yeah, same here, turned out it was just forgotten a load of laundry still in the washer from last Thursday.

Posted by: Bob in Houston-Vast Right Wing Basket of Deplorable! at September 12, 2016 02:13 AM (b7AU3)

652 Nitpick, but the Empire State Building was hit by a B-25 in 1945, not a jet. That was a twin-engine propeller plane that was puny compared to a modern jet airliner.

Posted by: rickl at September 12, 2016 02:08 AM (sdi6R)


True, but the point was that they were well aware of the danger of being hit by airplanes - commercial jets as those were what were regularly flying right over that spot. And the lights on the tops of those skyscrapers show that everyone was aware of planes and buildings ... just not intentional rammings so much.

Anyone who flew into Kennedy before must remember coming in near Manhattan and seeing how close the Trade Centers were. I remember being surprised by that once, many, many, many years ago.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 02:14 AM (zc3Db)

653 I forgot, our basketball team flew to DC every year to play demantha in some big tournament.

Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2016 02:14 AM (ngn8T)

654 "Seeing that jets routinely flew right by the area and that the Empire State building had been hit by one earlier."

Design spec for jet impact for the WTC was a Boeing 707.

Another thing about the 9/11 attacks is that the two hijacked 767s were going *fast*. Considerably faster than a jet under ATC guidance would normally be flying as it passed over Manhattan at approach or departure altitude.

Kinetic energy. Square of velocity.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 02:15 AM (noWW6)

655 In case you missed it, the world's seventh largest shipping company, Hanjin, just went bankrupt. Ports all over the world are refusing to let their ships dock before they know how they'll get paid.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 02:05 AM (EzgxV)


Soon-to-be new Top 40 song: "I'd Like To Get You On A No Boat To China".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 02:15 AM (oqkO3)

656 Is it possible that Soros has the tech to reanimate the dead?

Posted by: Mister Magoo's


That's my worry. That he will decide this election is too valuable to lose, so he will drop a few billion and assemble the finest medical minds on the planet in order to rejuvenate Hillary by November. When they're done with her, she'll have a 200 IQ and be able to beat Michael Phelps in the 200 yard medley.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 12, 2016 02:17 AM (dtWKK)

657 #642

It was an assassination attempt on Doc Savage, who rented the 85th and 86th floors.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 02:17 AM (IdCqF)

658 Good morning, mindful.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 02:17 AM (5Erk9)

659 zombie I think Mon/Tues Hillbeast CA events are canceled, so there shouldn't be any landings anywhere in CA.


Mild amusement in seeing the gymnastics the various wings of the statist/racist fanatics' campaign (AKA the "Democrats") - the "press", the campaign itself - will engage in this week to present this bizarre, stupid, and vile thing as a viable candidate.


Isn't pneumonia contagious? Was "diagnosed" 2/3 days ago? And yet close contact with zillions of people took place thereafter? Is this a misunderstanding of the facts or the "so what?" of it, or is this ..... yet another case of America entering Soviet, North Korean, Iranian revolutionary territory? (where official and quasi-official organs and people actually, publicly, pretend to believe the most ridiculous things)

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2016 02:17 AM (QDnY+)

660 457 I've had a grim foreboding of a terrible doom for days now..."
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 12:21 AM (GokoV)

A friend of mine has been doing a lot of traveling this year because she has a gut feeling that it's her last chance to do so before something happens.

Posted by: Country Boy at September 12, 2016 02:18 AM (W/Si3)

661 Gee, even I forgot (until just this moment) that I have these pictures posted at zombietime:

http://www.zombietime.com/wtc_9-13-2001/

Rare photos of Ground Zero taken at the World Trade Center site shortly after 9/11

"These photos were taken at Ground Zero, the World Trade Center site in New York, in September of 2001.

They were taken by someone named "Ed" who was allowed into the area by a member of the emergency response crew, at a time when all civilians -- including most journalists -- were forbidden to enter the area. As a result, these photos are among the few close-ups ever taken of the World Trade Center site so soon after the 9/11 attacks."

They're actually,. chronologically, the "first" pictures ever posted on my site. (Though I actually didn't upload them until after I had published a couple other reports.)

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:18 AM (jBuUi)

662 #652

The worst was supposed to be the old Hong Kong airport, which had a landing path between two rows of residential buildings. P.J. O'Rourke semi-seriously claimed you could make eye contact with people in their apartments.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 02:20 AM (IdCqF)

663 Isn't pneumonia contagious? Was "diagnosed" 2/3 days ago? And yet close contact with zillions of people took place thereafter? Is this a misunderstanding of the facts or the "so what?" of it, or is this ..... yet another case of America entering Soviet, North Korean, Iranian revolutionary territory? (where official and quasi-official organs and people actually, publicly, pretend to believe the most ridiculous things)

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2016 02:17 AM (QDnY+)


If the pneumonia is viral or bacterial, it could be contagious. If it is due to her having aspirated beverages or stomach contents, no.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 02:21 AM (oqkO3)

664 Old Hong Kong airport was a hoot - landing aircraft would make a fairly sharp turn almost around buildings (I think there were bright orange landmark signs at various points on the surrounding hills for pilots to confirm they were on the track).


Last time I was there the new (Lantao Island) airport was just being graded - 20 years? Wow.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2016 02:22 AM (QDnY+)

665 659 zombie I think Mon/Tues Hillbeast CA events are canceled, so there shouldn't be any landings anywhere in CA.

Posted by: rhomboid


I haven't seen official confirmation of that yet. Just a "recommendation" from her "doctor" that she needs to "rest" for a couple days. But I just checked the secret URL for one of the fundraisers and it STILL to this moment claims that Hillary will be in attendance (and since some people are forking out $50,000 for the privilege of sitting in the same room as her, there will be pissed off donors if she's a no-show).

If you (or anyone) has confirmation that the Calif trip is canceled, please post the link here!

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:23 AM (jBuUi)

666 Hello?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 02:23 AM (EzgxV)

667 Thanks, AOP. Haven't checked the doc's statement to see if that sort of detail is in the "diagnosis". But given the coughing fits ..... certainly seems like a biological and not physical version.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2016 02:23 AM (QDnY+)

668 I'll give you a hint -- all the computation will be outsourced to remote facilities in third-world countries, and it'll be streamed back to passive idiot devices in the US.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 02:01 AM (EzgxV)


Yet again, I am reminded of de Tocquville's most prescient work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Regime_and_the_Revolution

Posted by: The Not-so_Revolutionary Hat at September 12, 2016 02:24 AM (vBeA5)

669 sorry zombie, lazy, but it's in various spots - I recall seeing an AFP tweet from tonight to that effect, which would fit into the normal newsfeed category.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2016 02:24 AM (QDnY+)

670 so if'n you check AFP's feed or whatever it's called, it should be there - and I saw the story linked at 3 or 4 websites (but didn't pursue the links)

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2016 02:25 AM (QDnY+)

671 666
Hello?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 02:23 AM (EzgxV)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cO49cmcAYs

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 02:25 AM (EzgxV)

672 If the pneumonia is due to her being ill, a compromised immune system, then it's likely not contagious, either. Right now, we're all colonized with bacteria that could cause pneumonia if our immune systems didn't keep them check.

That happened to my father after his prostate surgery several years ago. We caught in time and got him to the hospital again before it got too bad.

If it's due to some virulent bug that most of our immune systems haven't figured out yet, then it can be contagious.

So I take pneumonia as a likely sign she's indeed in very poor health and her immune system is compromised. It could be comprised by some drugs she's having to take as well.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 12, 2016 02:25 AM (DW+jj)

673 662 #652

The worst was supposed to be the old Hong Kong airport, which had a landing path between two rows of residential buildings. P.J. O'Rourke semi-seriously claimed you could make eye contact with people in their apartments.
Posted by: Epobirs


I landed at Kai Tak -- twice.

And what P.J. O'Rourke said was true -- you passed just a few yards over and next to residential apartments. On one of my landings in a 747 I waved at an old Hong Kong lady hanging up laundry on her roof -- and she waved back!

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:26 AM (jBuUi)

674 666 Hello?
Posted by: cthulhu
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Is it me you're looking for?

Posted by: Lionel Rit-Chi at September 12, 2016 02:26 AM (5Erk9)

675 647 Oh and by the way, that was a missile launch off the coast of LA back in 2010.
Posted by: Country Boy at September 12, 2016 02:12 AM (W/Si3)


No, it wasn't. It was just an airplane. The contrails from airplanes and rockets look completely different.

I checked out NASASpaceflight.com that night (a forum for space geeks), and the commenters were laughing their asses off about it. If it was really a missile, they would have been discussing technical details.

Posted by: rickl at September 12, 2016 02:27 AM (sdi6R)

676 Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:18 AM (jBuUi)

Those pictures look like photos of smashed erector sets...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 02:28 AM (vBeA5)

677 674
666 Hello?

Posted by: cthulhu

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Is it me you're looking for?

Posted by: Lionel Rit-Chi at September 12, 2016 02:26 AM (5Erk9)


It might be. Have you cleaned Tucker up after gnawing his 'possum?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 02:29 AM (EzgxV)

678 I was very close to "ground zero" just a few weeks after 9/11, I'll always remember the smell. Like wet steel, or something, metallic, acidic, sour.


Vaguely recall tentative hope that the country might be serious when it finally got punched in the nose, that was dashed by 2006 or so. In fact the lack of seriousness turned out to be more widespread than it had appeared previously.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2016 02:30 AM (QDnY+)

679 "The worst was supposed to be the old Hong Kong airport, which had a landing path between two rows of residential buildings."

There are some startling videos on the net of old Kai Tak.

British Airways flew the Concorde in there a few times when HK was still a crown colony. Just to prove the principle, I suppose. The noise inside the adjacent buildings would have been shatteringly loud.

Not that it would have been particularly quiet to begin with.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 02:31 AM (noWW6)

680 Chi #658: "Good morning, mindful."

Howdy, Chi. More like about to be good night for me - been another long, crazy day.

-

Re the planes hitting the WTC & the engineering for an accidental hit -- not only were the planes going full-throttle on purpose, they were fully-fueled for cross-country trips. Hard to engineer for that double whammy.

Saw some video today, from early in the day - guy talking about explosions like a bomb in the lobby at ground level, blowing out all the windows. I think that was the jet fuel explosion traveling down the elevator shafts. What a horrid mess. One of the few blessings was that because of how they were built, they more-or-less collapsed straight down instead of keeling over worse than they did and hitting more of Manhattan.

Also caught a video today that I'd never seen - a montage of the jumpers. Couldn't stand to keep watching after the first dozen or so.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the war goes on at September 12, 2016 02:31 AM (Gzt/W)

681 cthulhu #666: Hello?

You misspelled "o Hell."

Posted by: mindful webworker - numerologically at September 12, 2016 02:32 AM (Gzt/W)

682 Ah, you were right, rhomboid -- dammit:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/09/11/ clinton-overheating-spell-may-intensify-focus-health/90231436/

Clinton cancels trip to California after 'overheating' spell, pneumonia diagnosis

"...Clinton's physician, Lisa Bardack, said she had pneumonia and was recovering, though on Sunday night spokesman Nick Merrill said the candidate canceled plans to go to California on Monday and Tuesday...."

That totally screws me up! Drat. I had this whole thing planned out.

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:36 AM (jBuUi)

683 The main link at Drudge goes to a Daily Mail article claiming Hillary's current trip/events have been cancelled, if someone's still looking for that.

Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2016 02:38 AM (3Liv/)

684 680
Also caught a video today that I'd never seen - a montage of the jumpers. Couldn't stand to keep watching after the first dozen or so.
Posted by: mindful webworker - the war goes on at September 12, 2016 02:31 AM (Gzt/W)


Keep in mind that a lot of them didn't deliberately jump. Crowds of people pressed up against the broken windows trying to get some air, and were inadvertently pushed out by the people behind them.

Posted by: rickl at September 12, 2016 02:38 AM (sdi6R)

685 Also caught a video today that I'd never seen - a montage of the jumpers. Couldn't stand to keep watching after the first dozen or so.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the war goes on at September 12, 2016 02:31 AM (Gzt/W)


Just seeing the people hanging out of the windows and on the side of the building 80 or 90 stories up sends chills through my spine. How bad do things have to be inside to get normal people to just climb out on the ledge at that height?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 02:38 AM (zc3Db)

686 @655 In case you missed it, the world's seventh largest shipping company, Hanjin, just went bankrupt. Ports all over the world are refusing to let their ships dock before they know how they'll get paid.
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On Saturday, I heard on TV that a Federal judge granted them bankruptcy protection. This was apparently enough to get ports in the US to start unloading their freighters.

Given that Hanjin is a Korean company, I'm not sure what a US Federal judge would have to do with it. But that's what the story seemed to indicate.

Posted by: junior at September 12, 2016 02:40 AM (YCyzO)

687 Nah, cooth. But he is way overdue for a bath.
Heck, I just left the carcass out there for him to play with. If a cat doesn't drag it off overnight, I'll toss it in the AM.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 02:42 AM (5Erk9)

688 There's a video from that day that has that sound on
it. It's unforgettable. I can't imagine being there, much less seeing
and hearing it in person. Holy cow.

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at September 11, 2016 10:37 PM (ozZau)

CBS aired that on the one year anniversary. Someone was making a documentary that day of one of the firefighters in the area who saw the crash and headed straight for the building. They explained that they mostly edited out people on fire coming out of the elevators due to respect for the victims and too much for TV. They went on to warn they couldn't edit out the sound of the bodies landing because there were too many of them.

Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2016 02:42 AM (3Liv/)

689 CBS aired that on the one year anniversary. Someone was making a documentary that day of one of the firefighters in the area who saw the crash and headed straight for the building. They explained that they mostly edited out people on fire coming out of the elevators due to respect for the victims and too much for TV. They went on to warn they couldn't edit out the sound of the bodies landing because there were too many of them.

Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2016 02:42 AM (3Liv/)


That documentary was the French brothers who were following a guy through the process of becoming a fireman. his first day on the job as a full-fledged fireman was 9/11. Very powerful documentary. I've only seen it aired once.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 02:44 AM (zc3Db)

690 That documentary was the French brothers who were following a guy through the process of becoming a fireman. his first day on the job as a full-fledged fireman was 9/11. Very powerful documentary. I've only seen it aired once.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 02:44 AM (zc3Db)

Do you recall the name of the doc? I'd like to see it, since of course MSM would never show any of that to us, and we deserve to be able to see what really happened that day.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 12, 2016 02:46 AM (CS7jF)

691 Anyone been on drudge the last few minutes?

The video of Hillary collapsing he has linked on the banner seems to have been removed. Wonder why?

Posted by: Doc at September 12, 2016 02:46 AM (Vgl4t)

692 683 The main link at Drudge goes to a Daily Mail article claiming Hillary's current trip/events have been cancelled, if someone's still looking for that.
Posted by: Methos


Got it already. But that's for pointing me to that article anyway, because it has a really good embedded video of the "drag into the van" moment in slow-motion and zoomed-in, so you can really really see in good detail the legs buckling, the muscular collapse, and the the shoe-tops dragging along the pavement as she is chucked head-first and face-down into the van.

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:47 AM (jBuUi)

693 The Naudet Brothers.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 02:47 AM (zc3Db)

694 Does it make me a bad person to note that the black vehicle that HillDog was loaded into today looked more like a hearse than a regular secret service vehicle?

So, who replaces her?

Posted by: Sharkman at September 12, 2016 02:48 AM (CS7jF)

695 The video of Hillary collapsing he has linked on the banner seems to have been removed. Wonder why?

Posted by: Doc at September 12, 2016 02:46 AM (Vgl4t)


Apparently the video Drudge linked was the reversed, or mirror___ one. The real one can be found readily on Youtube.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 02:48 AM (oqkO3)

696 The Naudet Brothers.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 02:47 AM (zc3Db)


Thank you.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 12, 2016 02:49 AM (CS7jF)

697 But that's for = But thanks for

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:49 AM (jBuUi)

698 We will postpone the election and I'll fill in as President.

I got this. No worries.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at September 12, 2016 02:50 AM (2yfcr)

699 It is simply titled 9/11, Shark.
Serch 9/11 documentary & should come right up.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 02:50 AM (5Erk9)

700 695 The video of Hillary collapsing he has linked on the banner seems to have been removed. Wonder why?

Posted by: Doc at September 12, 2016 02:46 AM (Vgl4t)

Apparently the video Drudge linked was the reversed, or mirror___ one. The real one can be found readily on Youtube.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


GO to this Daily Mail article for the very good slo-mo version (along with regular-speed as well):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3784098/ Hillary-Clinton-s-doctor-revealed-68-year-old-pneumonia.html

(Remove space from URL)

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:51 AM (jBuUi)

701 Got it already. But that's for pointing me to that article anyway, because it has a really good embedded video of the "drag into the van" moment in slow-motion and zoomed-in, so you can really really see in good detail the legs buckling, the muscular collapse, and the the shoe-tops dragging along the pavement as she is chucked head-first and face-down into the van.

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:47 AM (jBuUi)


Looks more like bored cops tossing a passed-out drunk into a paddy wagon, than doctors and Secret Service agents helping a distressed candidate into her transport, doesn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 02:51 AM (oqkO3)

702 Well, time for me to hit the rack. Take care, all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2016 02:53 AM (oqkO3)

703 "Looks more like bored cops tossing a passed-out drunk into a paddy
wagon, than doctors and Secret Service agents helping a distressed
candidate into her transport, doesn't it?"

Where are the Baltimore PD when we really need them?

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 02:55 AM (noWW6)

704 GO to this Daily Mail article for the very good slo-mo version (along with regular-speed as well
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Zombie,
That's probably the one I saw earlier where you can see that metalks rod fall out of her pants leg...

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 02:55 AM (5Erk9)

705 G'night AOP.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 02:56 AM (5Erk9)

706 "Just seeing the people hanging out of the windows and on the side of the
building 80 or 90 stories up sends chills through my spine. How bad do
things have to be inside to get normal people to just climb out on the
ledge at that height?"

I figure I wouldn't have ever taken a job up there, but if I had, I'd have had under my desk a box with a glass hammer, a helmet, and a reserve chute.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 02:57 AM (noWW6)

707 Should I go dolphin smooth or gheyish stubble when I take the oval office?

I figure I'll be there for a few years with this Constitution Crisis shaping up and lawyers and shit.

The NRO, The Blaze, and Red State have my back.

Jump on the Ryan Express!

Posted by: Paul Ryan, Hero.... President at September 12, 2016 02:58 AM (2yfcr)

708 Thank you.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 12, 2016 02:49 AM (CS7jF)


Evidently, CNN just bought the rights to it in October, added a little to it and renamed it "9/11 Fifteen Years Later". They aired it twice yesterday, it seems. I'm sorry that I missed it. I think I saw the title on the guide but skipped it because I figured it was something else.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 02:58 AM (zc3Db)

709 I figure I wouldn't have ever taken a job up there, but if I had, I'd have had under my desk a box with a glass hammer, a helmet, and a reserve chute.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 02:57 AM (noWW6)


Yeah, that seems pretty reasonable now.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 02:59 AM (zc3Db)

710 Looks more like bored cops tossing a passed-out drunk into a paddy wagon, than doctors and Secret Service agents helping a distressed candidate into her transport, doesn't it?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


What they call the ol' heave-ho.

Somewhere out there MUST BE someone who has ANOTHER video of this moment -- there can't have been just two people with iPhones. Probably a whole bunch of them.

But...they're probably Hillary supporters, so they're INTENTIONALLY not posting the video online because they know it will make her look bad. But I predict that someone just WON'T be able to resist showing the Hillary-collapse video to a friend, and then it will leak out. It will be from a different angle and will be even more shocking than this angle.

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 03:00 AM (jBuUi)

711

Ola creatures of the night.

Thank you to all who have served in whatever capacity to make our country safe and great.

Thank you to Bruce H., my best friend, DMAT Medical Commander who was on scene in the rubble from day 1-26 and who is now dying from pulmonary fibrosis.

Thank you AOS for pissing in the NFL's mouth.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 03:03 AM (qul7b)

712 That's probably the one I saw earlier where you can see that metalks rod fall out of her pants leg...
Posted by: Chi


Wow, I hadn't notice that before until you mentioned it. But I just rewatched the slow-mo part, and indeed, some weird little metal object either falls out of her pants leg, or inexplicably pops out of something and falls next to her pants leg.

Anybody in New York right now? Because that object was unnoticed and is likely STILL LYING THERE IN THE GUTTER!

I swear, if I was in NY, I would head out RIGHT NOW with a flashlight and talk the subway down there and search for that mystery object.

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 03:05 AM (jBuUi)

713 "Yeah, that seems pretty reasonable now."

Another thing that seems reasonable: helicopters for fighting high-rise fires. They're already used in fighting wildland fires. And in Manhattan, you have a permanent massive water supply *right there* for helos to dip.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 03:05 AM (noWW6)

714 talk the subway = take the subway

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 03:06 AM (jBuUi)

715 "talk the subway = take the subway"

In New York City, subway talks to YOU!!!

Often in a slurred unintelligible mumble.

Or a sharply barked imperative. "Yo' money and phone, now!"

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 03:11 AM (noWW6)

716 That sound -- it wasn't me hitting the wall. It was the wall hitting me, I swear.

Just watched a 15min vid of a doc diagnosing Hillary with Parkinson's.

I just keep thinking of that line from Doctor Who...

"Don't you think she looks tired?"

Good night, Gracies.

Posted by: mindful webworker - say o'nora at September 12, 2016 03:13 AM (Gzt/W)

717
I swear, if I was in NY, I would head out RIGHT NOW with a flashlight and talk the subway down there and search for that mystery object.
Posted by: zombie
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I don't know if the slo-MO has audio, but you can Cleary hear it in the full speed.
And, sorry, but it's been discussed since early today, so it's not there. I think the last I reat was that her handlers (oR just the media, BIRM) are claiming it was a piece of her glasses. No. Way. That was a large, heavy cchunk of steel, probably from her exoskeleton.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 03:14 AM (5Erk9)

718 Night all.

Here is a little Hillary Clinton mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQranYUmcE

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 03:15 AM (vBeA5)

719 .

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 12, 2016 03:16 AM (vBeA5)

720 713
Another thing that seems reasonable: helicopters for fighting high-rise fires. They're already used in fighting wildland fires. And in Manhattan, you have a permanent massive water supply *right there* for helos to dip.
Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 03:05 AM (noWW6)


I remember watching TV coverage that day and seeing helicopters flying around the buildings. I thought they were going to rescue people from the roof.

Posted by: rickl at September 12, 2016 03:16 AM (sdi6R)

721 G'night mindful and The Sleepy Hat.

Posted by: Chi at September 12, 2016 03:19 AM (5Erk9)

722 "That was a large, heavy cchunk of steel, probably from her exoskeleton. "

I thought the newest model Terminators were made from that liquid metal type of stuff.

No way Skynet would let a t-200 model run for POTUS. Too hard to upgrade the software.

????

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at September 12, 2016 03:26 AM (d76uN)

723 720
713

Another thing that seems reasonable: helicopters for fighting
high-rise fires. They're already used in fighting wildland fires. And in
Manhattan, you have a permanent massive water supply *right there* for
helos to dip.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 03:05 AM (noWW6)



I remember watching TV coverage that day and seeing helicopters
flying around the buildings. I thought they were going to rescue people
from the roof.

Posted by: rickl at September 12, 2016 03:16 AM (sdi6R)


I imagined tying tablecloths together and trying to parachute out. I'm somewhat surprised that there wasn't a survivor that did this -- even though the chance of success would be less than 50%.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 03:29 AM (EzgxV)

724

One of The Beast's shoes came off in the gutter. NYPD had to recover it as the Resuscitation Mobile took off without it...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 03:33 AM (qul7b)

725 I'm starting to think I need a rematch.

Posted by: Stubborn Jar of Pickles at September 12, 2016 03:36 AM (VdICR)

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 12, 2016 03:45 AM (dbgcV)

727 If you ever needed further proof that there is a God in heaven:

Kate Upton outs herself as a conservative

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/11/ supermodel-kate-upton-destroys-nfl-players-disrespecting-america-photo/

Kat'e open letter to the NFL:

"In my opinion, the national anthem is a symbolic song about our country. It represents honoring the many brave men and women who sacrifice and have sacrificed their lives each and every single day to protect our freedom. Sitting or kneeling down during the national anthem is a disgrace to those people who have served and currently serve our country. Sitting down during the national anthem on September 11th is even more horrific. Protest all you want and use social media all you want. However, during the nearly two minutes when that song is playing, I believe everyone should put their hands on their heart and be proud of our country for we are all truly blessed."

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 03:46 AM (jBuUi)

728 Kat'e = Kate's

Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 03:46 AM (jBuUi)

729 so *THAT's* how you do that...

sorry.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 12, 2016 03:47 AM (dbgcV)

730 "I remember watching TV coverage that day and seeing helicopters flying
around the buildings. I thought they were going to rescue people from
the roof."

I have a vague recollection that the roof exits were locked. Not that the NYC command authorities were going to allow any unrehearsed rooftop rescues anyway. Safety first!

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 03:48 AM (noWW6)

731 A favorite.....https://youtu.be/kJIVuinJlsU?t=40m51s



Somehow, the spire of gold isn't in California....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 12, 2016 04:01 AM (EzgxV)

732 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2016 04:02 AM (0G2eQ)

733 Does anybody know whether or not Hill Force One has clearance to land at Moffett Field?
Posted by: zombie at September 12, 2016 02:12 AM (jBuUi)
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The FBO (operations) are now run by a subsidiary of Google. I am sure they will let her land there.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 12, 2016 04:08 AM (NUqwG)

734 Morning, everyone.

Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of my life.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 12, 2016 04:12 AM (F5hTl)

735 Mornin'

Is the witch still alive?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 04:16 AM (WlGX+)

736 734 Morning, everyone.

Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of my life.

My mom watched that "story," as they called them. Those words always take me back to my childhood, playing on the floor of the TV room while my mom did the ironing and watched her stories.


Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 04:20 AM (WlGX+)

737 Till someone gets her broomstick

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2016 04:27 AM (0G2eQ)

738

Who would replace her, and could The Orange Crust defeat them?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 04:32 AM (qul7b)

739 "Is the witch still alive?"

I am having a hard time believing that seething pile of vice, avarice, greed, and hatred, was ever alive.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at September 12, 2016 04:34 AM (d76uN)

740 Yeah sleep ain't happening. Watched a 30 minute video of a retired doctor laying out the Hillary has Parkinson's for the last 10 years. Unreal that the slime in DC always cover their own at the expense of the people they serve, both parties had to have known this.

Now we have a potential clusterfuck on our hands while the DNC Overlords decide if the rubes will catch on that she is completely unfit. and Fuck the body double or symptom free Clinton as well that appeared.

God help us.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 04:39 AM (H8Bf9)

741 Well the moment of truth is almost here.Friday evening I was looking on line at a artist drawing of what I'm working on and now think the way I was told to do it is wrong. There is another piece to go on before the one in question. Putting the extra piece on would make the second half easier, but the side done will have to come off.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2016 04:43 AM (0G2eQ)

742 738

Who would replace her, and could The Orange Crust defeat them?
Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 04:32 AM (qul7b)

The DNC can meet and vote on a replacement I believe. We are in no mans land.

The trust in the Parties and media are fine if she drops out or they force her out. This is a revenge for being betrayed election.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 04:45 AM (H8Bf9)

743

Well Skip, developing a trans-light speed star destroyer has many challenges. Have you considered just having whom ever told you how to do it executed?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 04:46 AM (qul7b)

744 As I wrote yesterday the thing I regret on 9/11/01 was I heard reports live but all video I ever saw was taped, and all I had to do was quit work for the day ( once I saw live tv it would have ended) and walk across the street to a hospital to watch it.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2016 04:47 AM (0G2eQ)

745 It was the job supervisor (I work for sub contractors now).

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2016 04:52 AM (0G2eQ)

746

Liz Hurley bikini and less photo spread:

http://tinyurl.com/hx3wd73

Please pour single malt through the USB for tips...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 04:54 AM (qul7b)

747 I would love to see that but the only single malt I have now is a travel bottle, I'm drinking Johnny Walker red.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2016 04:58 AM (0G2eQ)

748

For you Skip, gratis...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 05:00 AM (qul7b)

749 Well should go pack lunch and get to work, its been bugging me to see the plans, which seem to mostly on the supervisor's phone.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2016 05:01 AM (0G2eQ)

750 Ftl propulsion will never be, you fools.....

Fold space, as the Guild do.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at September 12, 2016 05:03 AM (EcmoH)

751

It's five a.m. and the thrill is gone.
All circuits are busy, can't log on.
mumble, grumble, gun's still warm
Where are you?

Hitman on the loose, cash running low
morning fog, need a cup of joe
gotta keep movin, sirens in my head
Jefferson still lives, old Adams said
I can feel in now, it was pointless she said

feel like I'm slipping into the Twilight Zone.

Posted by: Mun Day at September 12, 2016 05:06 AM (4sOzC)

752 Posted by: Mun Day at September 12, 2016 05:06 AM (4sOzC)

I give you a solid B+

Posted by: Buraq O at September 12, 2016 05:18 AM (d76uN)

753 In you can't be fucking serious news...

"(CNN)Feeding into the alt-right narrative questioning Hillary Clinton's personal health, Sunday's near-fainting spell, caught on camera, is more than enough to make her fervent opponents a little lightheaded. The social media commentary following the episode demonstrated more glee than concern. But neither emotion is warranted.

As it turns out, fainting spells (and near-fainting) are quite commonly seen in healthy people. The information we have favors Clinton's wobbly moment as nothing unusual, particularly since we now know she's battling an infection."

Posted by: Kreplach at September 12, 2016 05:22 AM (+lv+r)

754

And when she went to her knees in the gutter the two shore-patrolmen simply frog tossed her into the paddy wagon cell of the ScruntMobile...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 05:28 AM (qul7b)

755 Posted by: Kreplach at September 12, 2016 05:22 AM (+lv+r)

The narrative must be maintained!

Posted by: Joe Gobbles, editor in chief, The Armored Bear Newspaper. Berlin, April 1945 at September 12, 2016 05:31 AM (d76uN)

756 Why does Hilary have pneumonia? Blood clots, fainting, pneumonia are all bad things when together. Is there some underlying edema tats causing fluid build up.

Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2016 05:36 AM (ngn8T)

757 '756 Why does Hilary have pneumonia?'

She gets it from the babies that she eats after their stem cells are injected into her spleen...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 05:38 AM (qul7b)

758 As expected, Hilda's cancelled her trip to the west coast.

Wash Times:
http://tinyurl.com/jlbskeq

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 05:39 AM (97XyN)

759 "As expected, Hilda's cancelled her trip to the west coast. "

It takes a brave and strong woman with sacred honor to counter that pig trump by cancelling her trip. Such a move would put a normal person in the grave.

Posted by: eric e. at September 12, 2016 05:45 AM (d76uN)

760 "In you can't be fucking serious news..."

This is why I said yesterday that the fallout will be limited. The networks won't show the video, which leaves them free to mischaracterize it as they wish.

If the actual video gets to the Dem retard voters, I think it's game over for the Hildabeast.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 05:46 AM (97XyN)

761 You know what this thread needs? Pneumonia!

*coughs, hacks, spits, blows nose and tosses tissues around*

You're deplorable.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 12, 2016 05:54 AM (ZFUt7)

762 753 In you can't be fucking serious news...

"(CNN)Feeding into the alt-right narrative questioning Hillary Clinton's personal health, Sunday's near-fainting spell, caught on camera, is more than enough to make her fervent opponents a little lightheaded. The social media commentary following the episode demonstrated more glee than concern. But neither emotion is warranted.

As it turns out, fainting spells (and near-fainting) are quite commonly seen in healthy people. The information we have favors Clinton's wobbly moment as nothing unusual, particularly since we now know she's battling an infection."
Posted by: Kreplach at September 12, 2016 05:22 AM (+lv+r

And she was looking like a hip version of the crypt keeper with her dark blue anti-seizure sun glasses.

DC and the media really do find us irredeemable.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 05:56 AM (H8Bf9)

763 Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, September 12, 2016. On this day in 490 BC (conventionally accepted date). The Athenians and a few Plataean allies, defeated the first Persian invasion force of Greece at the Battle of Marathon. This is considered the turning point in the wars between Greece and the Persians (who later became the muzzies). This battle has also been considered the event that presaged the rise of Greece and the start of Western Civilization.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

764 From MH's write up on 9-11 above on the first WTC explosion:


The explosion left a crater 200 feet by 100 feet. As a result of this explosion, 6 people were killed and over 1,000 injured.


There were a number of terrorists responsible for this attack. 6 of the 7 directly charged are currently in U.S. prisons.



Those two sentences do not go together and show some serious WTF that both Obama and Bush are to blame for. These muzzie savages were responsible for mass murder. WTF are they still doing wasting air and being above ground 23 years later? Shit, they haven't even been tried yet. And yes, the feds do have a death penalty. (no link needed)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

765 Scankles has canceled plans for campaigning in CA today and tomorrow after her so-called "medical episode" yesterday. Her campaign blamed her passing out and collapse on pneumonia. I give that blame 100 Pinocchios. She has serious medical problems that do not involve pneumonia or Parkinson's disease. But as you can see from the way this Fox article is written they are spinning for all it's worth and the MFM is dutifully printing it.


http://fxn.ws/2c4zy76

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

766 Fox headline has "new poll; Scankles ahead by 10 points". Gee you would think this really means something she is slaughtering Trump in the polls. That is exactly what they want you to think. When you dig down a little in the article you find it is a poll by the WaPo (yeah, no bias there) and it is for registered voters. "Likely voters" gives an 8% lead.


But the article contains no breakdown on percentages used to calculate the poll bias and normalization of numbers. After diligent search I found those numbers. They used a 34-24-33 breakdown. That is ludicrous. And to show you how this really impacts the end product all you have to do is to look at how it impacts immigration. That is the key issue which gave us Trump to begin with and after their normalization Scankles actually leads Trump on this. Keep that in mind when you remember that 70% of Americans want to end the massive immigration we have now. Morons should be aware that you must take all polls with a ton-grain of salt and when they do not give the party breakdown they are hiding something.


http://fxn.ws/2ciPct4

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

767 ISIS has developed means of defeating the electronic tracking of Western intelligence. Thanks to the western press telling them everything about how they were being tracked they were able to come up with means to get around it. However, you can't blame it all on the press. They would have never got the info to begin with if politicians like Obama didn't give it to them for political reasons.


http://fxn.ws/2chtTGR

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

768 Here is a complicated story from WA State of a woman who has been convicted of "buying guns for her son" who was a felon. He was subsequently killed in a shootout at her home by police. I do not like the smell of this case, which I originally got from Fox so I pulled around until I got this local article. On the surface if this write-up is true there was probably no grounds for the case to begin with. Her story, which is likely true, was that she bought these guns legally for herself. Her son who also lived there simply grabbed them. It is hard to say based solely on what the press says but it looks like this was a travesty and a stacked anti-gun liberal jury. What say the Morons?


http://bit.ly/2cFToCj

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

769 Selected retards around the NFL kneeled to show support for dishonoring the national anthem. May they be blessed with the Dixie Chick success.


http://fxn.ws/2c2mKJQ

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

770 Miss Arkansas wins the PC political contest for 2017.


http://fxn.ws/2cS6AaF

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

771 Tim Scott has submitted a bill to make Fort Sumter a national park because "its where the Civil War began". I have supported Tim Scott in the past but I see no need for this designation. I would sure like to see what "hidden benefits" this would bring. First off, the war beginning at Ft Sumter is a myth. The official first shots were fired in FL, not at Ft Sumter. And a lot of historians cite the wars in "bleeding Kansas" as the start. And second off, the sites listed here that will be part of this park are already set-aside as national monuments. So what is the difference between a park and monument?


http://fxn.ws/2cR9qNb

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

772 A story from Lima, Peru illustrates a violation of "The Wizard's Second Rule" from The Sword of Truth series. That rule is routinely violated by politicians, as is shown here. The rule reads, " Harm can result from good intention". But I really do question them intentionally planting crabgrass.


http://bit.ly/2cBzQR3

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

773 "As it turns out, fainting spells (and near-fainting) are quite commonly seen in healthy people. The information we have favors Clinton's wobbly moment as nothing unusual, particularly since we now know she's battling an infection." -- CNN

Yeah ... happens all the time. I can't even count the number of times I've been walking on the street in the summer and people are just dropping left and right. Every so often you see a car go right off the road because the healthy driver just fainted. At family dinners we usually have 3 or 4 people slumped over the table, out cold, by the end of the night. It's not even worth trying to rouse them since another one or two are just going to faint and fall out of their chairs within the next half hour, anyway.

Everybody faints. All the time. It's like you can't walk outside without seeing 2 or 3 people face down in the street right in front of you.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 12, 2016 06:00 AM (zc3Db)

774 Amazon is planning a move to open 100 new local stores nationwide. So how does this affect the Morons so that I post it here? It means that your mail order stuff from Amazon will now be subject to sales tax if one of these stores is located in your State. I have already been hit with SC sales tax on Amazon because they built an Amazon distribution center (not a store) in Columbia.


http://aol.it/2c8Sn7N

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

775 I have no love for Target but this was really really stupid and shows how totally messed up tort law is in this country. Carla Denise Garrison of Anderson, SC has been awarded $4.6M in damages because she stupidly slapped a hypodermic needle out of her daughter's hand. The daughter had picked the needle up in a Target Parking lot. First off, did Target employees put the needle there? No, of course not. Should they be held accountable for what other people do in their parking lot 24/7? No. Should they be held accountable for the mother being stupid and trying to slap the needle out of her daughter's hand instead of calmly taking the needle out of here hand while restraining her? No. And here is the final rub, the basis for the suit is the woman had to be bedridden for a few days after taking a prophylactic drug. Another case of stupid plaintiff, a stupid jury, and stupid law, used to extort money from a totally innocent store. If it were up to me I would eliminate all tort law in the US except for violation of a written contract. But you know who pays for this kind of crap in the end don't you?


http://fxn.ws/2cgCivI

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

776 RINO Rubio is trying to build his bonafieds before this election.


http://fxn.ws/2cRtbnI

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

777 Funny story of the day. It's raining catfish. Funny but could have been bad. Maybe this woman should sue too.


http://fxn.ws/2c8emvJ

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

778 Chinese airline deemed racist after giving a truthful warning to passengers going to London. PC strikes again.


http://fxn.ws/2cPwvNk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

779 A muzzie migrant being deported from England goes berserk on airplane. Obama says "I've got an idea, let's import another 500,000 here".


http://dailym.ai/2c1diGE

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

780 Replace Scankles on the Democrat ticket?


Left-wing journalist David Shuster reported the news based on conversations with Democratic operatives.


LOL, aren't they all left-wing?


http://bit.ly/2cChjUq

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

781 BB Radio will discuss Scankles' health and gaffes today.


http://bit.ly/2cG3R0D

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

782 Heritage doubles down on bashing the relatively new use of lame duck sessions to pass bills that the taxpayers hate. Morons should keep in mind that Obamacare was originally passed during a lame duck session.


http://bit.ly/2cG3WBA

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

783 And Obama wants that unconstitutional UN Gun Control Treaty ratified post haste. Hopefully there isn't much chance of this, or maybe he is pushing this for the lame duck session.


http://bit.ly/2cx5W2V

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

784 The networks won't show the video, which leaves them free to mischaracterize it as they wish. 



CBS streaming, known as CBSN, has the video. They even highlighted the area in which Hillary is standing. So I imagine they used that footage over the 'regular' network at some time.

I emailed my wife the video link yesterday, who watched it immediately. She ran into someone about noon, who she knows hates Hillary too.

'See the video yet?' my wife was asked.

'Of course' my wife answered.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 12, 2016 06:03 AM (ZFUt7)

785 Walter Williams once again discusses the lies of the MSM and race mongers concerning black poverty and crime. Yes, he and other have said these things over and over again but it is like he is a lonely voice crying out in the wilderness.


http://bit.ly/2cCnqs6

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

786 Ramirez


http://bit.ly/1qd89lF


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

787 From that CNN article addressed by Kreplach


As it turns out, fainting spells (and near-fainting) are quite commonly seen in healthy people.


I addressed that yesterday. No they are not "quite common". People fainting while standing at near attention for extended period of time happens a lot, but I would not call it "common". People fainting while walking is rare and indicates a severe medical problem.


But we ARE talking CNN here. Why report the truth when you can lie for your mentors.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:07 AM (mpXpK)

788 That's it for today folks. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party 


Good work. All lies. Hey, get rid of this for me, would you?

*Hands Vic pneumococcal ridden tissue*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 12, 2016 06:08 AM (ZFUt7)

789 I got the walking pneumonia,
And the I ain't now way tired blues

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:10 AM (8ikIW)

790 I do feel bad for Shillary.
I looked and acted the exact same way once...

After my bachelor party

She must have a hell of a hangover today!

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:11 AM (8ikIW)

791 So Hillary's campaign stops this week have been increased from 4 to zero?

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 12, 2016 06:12 AM (J+eG2)

792 ♪ Walking Pneumonia, my darlin',
You'll come a-walking, Pneumonia, with me ♪

Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 12, 2016 06:14 AM (ZFUt7)

793 Trump should off to push the debates back a few days, until she feels better. And, get them off of football nights

Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2016 06:14 AM (ngn8T)

794 765 Scankles has canceled plans for campaigning in CA today and tomorrow after her so-called "medical episode" yesterday. Her campaign blamed her passing out and collapse on pneumonia. I give that blame 100 Pinocchios. She has serious medical problems that do not involve pneumonia or Parkinson's disease. But as you can see from the way this Fox article is written they are spinning for all it's worth and the MFM is dutifully printing it.


http://fxn.ws/2c4zy76

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

Vic, lots of theories on her condition, what do you think it is? (I think she is terminal)

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 06:16 AM (H8Bf9)

795 "Trump should off to push the debates back a few days, until she feels better. "

Move them all to the Arizona desert.

Daytime
Outside
Standing
No sitting.

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 12, 2016 06:16 AM (J+eG2)

796 793
Trump should off to push the debates back a few days, until she feels better. And, get them off of football nights

Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2016 06:14 AM (ngn8T)

Yes, just like McShitty who then lost to Obama.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:16 AM (mpXpK)

797 Either that, or Trump should donate a Hoveround.


With her campaign logo on both sides.

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 12, 2016 06:17 AM (J+eG2)

798 I addressed that yesterday. No they are not "quite common". People fainting while standing at near attention for extended period of time happens a lot, but I would not call it "common". People fainting while walking is rare and indicates a severe medical problem.


But we ARE talking CNN here. Why report the truth when you can lie for your mentors.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:07 AM (mpXpK)

It did happen to me once. When I was maybe 14 in Boy Scouts we were doing a flag raising ceremony at the local city hall. I was one of the buglers and we were all standing at attention. It was pretty darn hot out and the sun was brutal. The mayor or city politician guy decided to talk for an extended period of time. I was trying to stay perfectly still out of respect, and all of a sudden the world went sideways. Not a big deal, although I did miss the bugle call. Later, my dad told me the key is to shift your weight from foot to foot a bit to help keep blood flowing while standing in one spot for a long period of time.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 06:18 AM (WV3Yp)

799 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK

Of course only 24% of the voters will be republican and likely republican voters in the general election.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 06:19 AM (H8Bf9)

800 794 Vic, lots of theories on her condition, what do you think it is? (I think she is terminal)

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 06:16 AM (H8Bf9)

I do not know but I know what it ain't. It ain't pneumonia, she may have that as a side effect of other things but that is not what caused her to pass out while walking. It ain't Parkinson's as a lot of people are guessing. I am very familiar with those symptoms from personal observation of two different people and those are not her symptoms.
What she has is some kind of serious neurological problem. If I were in that buisness I would not issue her a life insurance policy and a medical insurance policy would cost her an arm and a leg.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:20 AM (mpXpK)

801 "I have no love for Target but this was really really stupid and shows how totally messed up tort law is in this country."

Target's management no doubt believed the totalitarian alligator would eat them last. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 06:20 AM (97XyN)

802 Trump could hire a Stairlift company to come out to Hillary's home for an estimate.

In a service truck with big Stairlift logos on the side.


And a Medical Supply House van just parked in front of the house as well.

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 12, 2016 06:22 AM (J+eG2)

803 I've fallen and I can't get up!

(Also, I sharted. But only a little bit.)

Posted by: Hildabitch! at September 12, 2016 06:24 AM (97XyN)

804 What she has is some kind of serious neurological problem. If I were in that buisness I would not issue her a life insurance policy and a medical insurance policy would cost her an arm and a leg.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:20 AM (mpXpK)

The interesting thing here is that this has to be some form of chronic condition, and given their wealth, they have access to some of the best care available on the planet- and yet they and the pres are still having to do the full court FDR press to keep it from everyone.
I just find it kind of sickening after how they treated McCain, who despite being not one of my favorite people, got his injuries from serving this country, and was and is in arguably better health that Hillary.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 06:25 AM (WV3Yp)

805 798 Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 06:18 AM (WV3Yp)


Yes, that is the kind of thing I have seen on two different occasions. Also, you had just completed an action where you were taking deep breaths and blowing that bugle. That is similar to and old game that kids used to play long ago. Spin around and around, squat down and blow hard into your thumb holding your breath. We called it the pass-out game.


The two times that I have seen in my life when it was not an intentional game both involved standing at "attention" for an extended period of time in formation. Two times in 60+ years is not common.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:25 AM (mpXpK)

806 801 Target's management no doubt believed the totalitarian alligator would eat them last. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 06:20 AM (97XyN)

As I said, I have no love for Target, but I have pure hate for anti-gun bullshit, whether it comes from the government are a stupid jury in a liberal blue State.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:28 AM (mpXpK)

807 Hilary,. Don't lock your knees.

Posted by: Jean at September 12, 2016 06:28 AM (ngn8T)

808 The first thing any rational woman does, after being diagnosed with pneumonia and passing out in the street, is visit her pregnant daughters luxury apartment and spread pneumococcal germs about.

You people are deplorable.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 12, 2016 06:29 AM (ZFUt7)

809 Oops, the Target thing was SC, not Washington and not a gun, which was also covered above. Getting confused here. Hope I don't ass out.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:29 AM (mpXpK)

810 804 I just find it kind of sickening after how they
treated McCain, who despite being not one of my favorite people, got his
injuries from serving this country, and was and is in arguably better
health that Hillary.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 06:25 AM (WV3Yp)

He has that evil "R" after his name (even though he doesn't deserve it)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:31 AM (mpXpK)

811 "Hope I don't ass out."

I've done that more times than I care to mention. But most of those times I was drunk. So there's that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 06:31 AM (97XyN)

812 Getting confused here. Hope I don't ass out.


Posted by: Vic


The first sign is dropping your P's.


Quick! Get him to the someplace other then a hospital!!

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:31 AM (8ikIW)

813 I've had pneumonia and I've had seasonal allergies. The idea that any competent doctor would mistake one for the other strikes me as absurd.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 06:34 AM (IdCqF)

814 Quick! Get him to the someplace other then a hospital!!
Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:31 AM (8ikIW)

*looks around*

Hey, there's a Chili's!

*grabs feet*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 06:34 AM (WV3Yp)

815 When they hauled her wobbly carcass into the van, I'm reminded of an A-Team episode.

B.A. Baracus shoots her with a tranquilizer. The van pulls up, they drag her in for questioning.

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:35 AM (8ikIW)

816 812
The first sign is dropping your P's.


Quick! Get him to the someplace other then a hospital!!


Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:31 AM (8ikIW)

I too have serious nerve damage, it is called Chemo induced neuropathy. It affects typing, among other things.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:35 AM (mpXpK)

817 Hey, there's a Chili's!



*grabs feet*



Posted by: Aetius451AD

Hang on. Vic's mumbling something....

It sounds like Hooters

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:36 AM (8ikIW)

818 Looks like we are caught up for a few minutes. I am going to go fix some breakfast. Be back shortly.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:37 AM (mpXpK)

819 Grunt.

I'm up at this hour to take my mom to have her cataracts reassigned or something.

Phone charged, Kindle charged, snacks for me packed and a couple real books packed too.

You guys jump in the bag and then we'll be all set.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 12, 2016 06:38 AM (gTQoY)

820 I too have serious nerve damage, it is called Chemo induced neuropathy. It affects typing, among other things.

I'm sorry for that Vic. I'm not making fun of you. If it wasn't for spell check, my posts would be even more confusing. I can spell like a wiz, but my damn fingers don't know that.

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:39 AM (8ikIW)

821 I'm old enough to remember when it was racist to say Hillary was sick.

Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2016 06:39 AM (ACqhm)

822 They leave her literally propped up against a post while they fetch the Clintensive Care Unit van, which was not standing by because she wasn't expected to leave yet.

Her medical team tries to move her forward and she goes completely rigid from the neck down. Her legs splay out in opposite directions. She topples over hard enough to almost bring down the phalanx of medical personnel she always has with her because reasons. Then they pick her up and actually toss her into the back seat like a side of beef, as a shoe and part of her exoskeleton go flying off.

Yeah. Sounds like pneumonia.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 06:40 AM (WlGX+)

823 Hope your mom is okay, Mama AJ.

Posted by: ALH at September 12, 2016 06:41 AM (Z56vq)

824 800 794 Vic, lots of theories on her condition, what do you think it is? (I think she is terminal)

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 06:16 AM (H8Bf9)

I do not know but I know what it ain't. It ain't pneumonia, she may have that as a side effect of other things but that is not what caused her to pass out while walking. It ain't Parkinson's as a lot of people are guessing. I am very familiar with those symptoms from personal observation of two different people and those are not her symptoms.
What she has is some kind of serious neurological problem. If I were in that buisness I would not issue her a life insurance policy and a medical insurance policy would cost her an arm and a leg.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 06:20 AM (mpXpK

I watched a detailed interview of 30 minutes with a retired doctor who lays out in painful scary detail that his conclusion is Parkinson's since at least 2005, which I linked below. Dr. Ted Noel I believe is his name. Very detailed stuff for 30 minutes. Personally I think it is several things one of them Bengali subcortical vascular dementia with Parkinson's as a symptom and seizures. She is really screwed up.

Appreciate your morning news posts Vic. Be well.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtIzH9HoC8

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 06:41 AM (H8Bf9)

825 The thing I found humorous about the video is how they just prop Hillary Clinton up on a cement pillar while the van appears. The agents all act like, 'here we go again'.

I've read articles for months about how her campaign is keeping the media out of sight of her boarding and disembarking planes, and getting in and out of limos. Thank G-d somebody caught the truth on video.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 12, 2016 06:42 AM (ZFUt7)

826 And love.

Pneumonia and love.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 12, 2016 06:42 AM (gTQoY)

827 >>>>But the article contains no breakdown on percentages used to calculate
the poll bias and normalization of numbers. After diligent search I
found those numbers. They used a 34-24-33 breakdown. That is ludicrous.
And to show you how this really impacts the end product all you have to
do is to look at how it impacts immigration. That is the key issue which
gave us Trump to begin with and after their normalization Scankles
actually leads Trump on this. Keep that in mind when you remember that
70% of Americans want to end the massive immigration we have now. Morons
should be aware that you must take all polls with a ton-grain of salt
and when they do not give the party breakdown they are hiding something.

.
.
.
.They had to pull a 10 point Dem margin to show her in the lead? That should be criminal. They didn't even have a 10 point spread in 2008 when obama was running.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 12, 2016 06:42 AM (iONHu)

828 Hillary spends a lot of money every week on her campaign. Blanket saturation of the TV market isn't cheap.

Not being able to hold fund raisers will hurt her.

Posted by: ALH at September 12, 2016 06:44 AM (Z56vq)

829 "The agents all act like, 'here we go again'.
"

You get the definite feeling that this type of event has occurred out of the spotlight numerous times before.

If this were a first time, isolated incident, you would expect a great deal of alarm, an elevated sense of urgency, and a straight shot to a full blown medical facility.

This resembles another episode of crazy Uncle Bob shitting himself at the Thanksgiving table....

Again.

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 12, 2016 06:45 AM (J+eG2)

830 So next up for Shill will be an appearance on Kimmel where she does the same vault that Kerry Strug did.
And sticks a one legged landing!!

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:47 AM (8ikIW)

831 "Not being able to hold fund raisers will hurt her."

Can't you afford 79 cents a week to feed a starving hillaroid?

Posted by: S. Struthers at September 12, 2016 06:47 AM (d76uN)

832 I've known people with Parkinson's. It is not Parkinson's.

Some kind of neurological disorder is more likely.

Anybody see the interview she did on CNN with Chris Cuomo, immediately beforehand? She was hushed, sickly looking and had to keep stopping in the middle of sentences to swallow hard, and looked like she was having difficulty doing it.

And that was a taped interview (so coughing fits could be edited out or cough-filled segments re-taped) with the friendliest of friendly presstitutes.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 06:47 AM (WlGX+)

833 From PJMedia, apparently HRC tested out the 'deplorable' in some interview a few days before. I remember a few elections where 'rethuglikkkans' was the big insult. Very young people thought it was clever.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 12, 2016 06:47 AM (MIKMs)

834 >>>>Yes, that is the kind of thing I have seen on two different occasions.
Also, you had just completed an action where you were taking deep
breaths and blowing that bugle. That is similar to and old game that
kids used to play long ago. Spin around and around, squat down and blow
hard into your thumb holding your breath. We called it the pass-out
game.


The two times that I have seen in my life when it was
not an intentional game both involved standing at "attention" for an
extended period of time in formation. Two times in 60+ years is not
common.
.
.
.
.I saw one guy drop once. We were having a uniform inspection of the Flight Deck in our Whites in July in the middle of the friggin Persian Gulf. He planted his face on the deck and ruined his whites.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 12, 2016 06:50 AM (iONHu)

835 Listening to the radio this morning and read some headlines at news sites The Hillary campaign/MSM is doubling down with the pneumonia story and gin with it full bore. I'd like to say "Do they actually believe Americans are that stupid?" but the reality is around 60% are either that stupid or are more than happy to go along with the deception.

Posted by: Ripley at September 12, 2016 06:50 AM (1BQGO)

836 After the "episode", they probably had to take the Shillmobile to a do it yourself wash place for a inside pressure wash.
I bet it was nasty inside.

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 06:52 AM (8ikIW)

837 Man, the media sure is strangely uncurious about the little prop girl outside Chelsea's apartment.

If anyone with an (R) after their name pulled that stunt, she and her entire family would be under the media microscope, and every bit of dirt on any of them would be front page news. If there was no dirt, they'd make some up.

Yet, we don't even know the little prop girl's name.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 06:52 AM (WlGX+)

838 The dims and the DNC must be shitting themselves about what to do. Throw Hillary under the bus.? Who will get selected as the nominee? Where and who will attend the secret DNC meeting to elect the nominee? The infighting. The foreign and global interests the Clintons owe White House Debts to and who will shoulder that burden for the them? The media with egg and poo all over their faces after yesterday and THE VIDEO. The fact that people are so cynical and distrustful like myself, the idea of a body double is even being entertained.

Not enough popcorn in the world.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 06:52 AM (H8Bf9)

839 Not being able to hold fund raisers will hurt her.Posted by: ALH



Not to mention the fact that contributions might just dry up now. If the possibility exists she'll be replaced, donors might hold their dollars until the smoke clears.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 12, 2016 06:53 AM (ZFUt7)

840 I personally think she has epilepsy. Some of the drugs used to treat it are brutal with their side effects, Tegratol being the number one choice to control seizures has a number of side effects that she is exhibiting. Coughing dizziness, loss of balance, swelling, confusion, etc.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 12, 2016 06:57 AM (iONHu)

841 Yet, we don't even know the little prop girl's name.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 06:52 AM (WlGX+)

Of course not because somebody might interview her about the meeting and she may let something slip.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 06:57 AM (H8Bf9)

842
Hillary doesnt have Parkinsons or pneumonia.

She has LIABETES.


Liarbetes.


Get it?


Liabetes.

Posted by: M Magoo's at September 12, 2016 06:57 AM (qnG85)

843 #837

I'd keep an eye out for new film or TV venues with a prominent role for such a child. The payoff.

Or perhaps we'll hear about her being hospitalized with pneumonia, if they need to further commit to the cover story.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 06:58 AM (IdCqF)

844 "Man, the media sure is strangely uncurious about the little prop girl outside Chelsea's apartment.
"

If the Hillary campaign put out photos of her backpacking in the Adirondacks Sunday afternoon the MSM wouldn't be suspicious. They would be remarking what a strong woman she is.

Posted by: Ripley at September 12, 2016 06:58 AM (1BQGO)

845 Liabetes.

Crone's Disease.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 06:58 AM (WlGX+)

846 840 I personally think she has epilepsy. Some of the drugs used to treat it are brutal with their side effects, Tegratol being the number one choice to control seizures has a number of side effects that she is exhibiting. Coughing dizziness, loss of balance, swelling, confusion, etc.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 12, 2016 06:57 AM (iONHu)

Epilepsy could likely be a symptom of something far worse. She is terminal right before our eyes. She looked 95 in those blue seizure proof sun glasses next to people her age.

She is going down, has been going down for a long time IMO, and is in the last stages or whatever it is.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:01 AM (H8Bf9)

847 I read where Mittens' former campaign chief took this opportunity to call on Trump to release his taxes. Because reasons.

I am SO sorry I ever defended Mittens from Hairy Reid's spurious tax attacks.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 07:01 AM (WlGX+)

848 #840

Some acquired form, from injury or late in life onset? There's no way it would have remained under wraps if she'd had it since the Arkansas days.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 07:01 AM (IdCqF)

849 On a non-Scankles topic; amazon has a sale on the original Conan books. All for only 99 cents.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 07:04 AM (mpXpK)

850

Prop Girl already admitted to the hospital with neisseria meningitis...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 07:04 AM (qul7b)

851 847 I read where Mittens' former campaign chief took this opportunity to call on Trump to release his taxes. Because reasons.

I am SO sorry I ever defended Mittens from Hairy Reid's spurious tax attacks.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 07:01 AM (WlGX+)

Trillions and Trillions of dollars riding on a Hillary win.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:05 AM (H8Bf9)

852 There's no way it would have remained under wraps if she'd had it since the Arkansas days.


I don't know. It's amazing what's been kept under wraps since the Arkansas days.

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 07:05 AM (8ikIW)

853 Both my wifes parents had Parkinson's. If I hadn't been told that I never would have guessed. The only clues I ever picked up was the gelatin they added to beverages to thicken them. I never observed any tremors.

But they both caught pneumonia and died from that.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 12, 2016 07:08 AM (ZFUt7)

854 Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:08 AM (s0LuT)

855 I''m a little dizzy this AM listening to the Left spin The FAB tail

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:09 AM (s0LuT)

856 >>
Yet, we don't even know the little prop girl's name.


I would imagine she's the daughter of someone on Hillary's campaign staff or a donor who lives in Chelsea's building. Whenever Hillary has a public meeting w/an "everyday American" it turns out to be a campaign volunteer, or someone high up in a sympathetic org like Planned Parenthood or a teacher's union, etc. They are always plants, always well-connected to er or an activist cause.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 07:10 AM (NOIQH)

857 846 Epilepsy could likely be a symptom of something far
worse. She is terminal right before our eyes. She looked 95 in those
blue seizure proof sun glasses next to people her age.



She is going down, has been going down for a long time IMO, and is in the last stages or whatever it is.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:01 AM (H8Bf9)

Instead of campaigning she should harken down to that Methodist church she is claiming as her church in DC and do some serious praying for her sins which are multitudinous.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 07:11 AM (mpXpK)

858 >>>>There's no way it would have remained under wraps if she'd had it since the Arkansas days.


I don't know. It's amazing what's been kept under wraps since the Arkansas days.
.
.
.
.Pneumonia my ass. The press might try to cover this up with that story but people who have seen the video know it isn't that.

I honestly don't see how they thought this was not going to happen in a public place at some point. I mean come on, every single person on the planet has a cell phone with video capabilities on it.

They might be able to manage and block the press because they are compliant little sheep around hillary and bill, but they are not going to be able to stop the hundreds of cell phone videos going whenever she is in public like yesterday.

If it wasn't this time and this guy it would have been filmed sooner or later by someone else. You literally can't keep secrets like this in this day and age with everyone having a cell phone and using it 24/7.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 12, 2016 07:11 AM (iONHu)

859 I would imagine she's the daughter of someone on
Hillary's campaign staff or a donor who lives in Chelsea's building.
Whenever Hillary has a public meeting w/an "everyday American" it turns
out to be a campaign volunteer, or someone high up in a sympathetic org
like Planned Parenthood or a teacher's union, etc. They are always
plants, always well-connected to er or an activist cause.




Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 07:10 AM (NOIQH)


Reminds me of Potemkin Villages.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 12, 2016 07:12 AM (J+mig)

860 >>
I''m a little dizzy this AM listening to the Left spin The FAB tail


Yep, it's walking pneumonia, and hey, they should both release more medical info...Moving along...

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 07:12 AM (NOIQH)

861 Have to laugh at the InfoWars brigade claiming it was Hillary's "stunt double" that emerged from Chez Chelsea. Because "she wasn't even dressed the same" and "her ass looked smaller."

Um, she was there for two hours. She changed her clothes. (and certainly her shoes!) This ain't rocket science. And her ass was still ginormous.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 07:13 AM (WlGX+)

862 Reminds me of Potemkin Villages.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 12, 2016 07:12 AM (J+mig)


Yeah but at least you can get a good deal on a Cadillac?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:13 AM (s0LuT)

863

My vote is she has Lewy Body Dementia with various % amounts of the unholy trinity of Alzheimers, Parkinson's and Central Syncope Syndrome, which cascade down from LBD. Without a doubt some Wernicke Korsakoff encephalopathy too from the decades of boozing.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 07:14 AM (qul7b)

864 Ya know I went to Dental School so my diagnosis is that she is old and ugly.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:14 AM (s0LuT)

865 "Have to laugh at the InfoWars brigade claiming it was Hillary's "stunt double" "

Yeah, that's just dumb.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 07:15 AM (97XyN)

866 Looking at the wiki page for walking pneumonia (called "atypical pneumonia) it looks like they just went to webmd and picked something that had sort of fuzzy symptoms that could in general fit whatever they wanted or happened.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 07:16 AM (WV3Yp)

867 So far, everyone I have talked to recognizes the probability of some sort of chronic medical condition rendering Hillary incapable of fulfilling the roll of POTUS.

Yet according to the Press, it's all roses and skittle flavored Unicorn shit.

I sort of imagine the roll of the Press has become similar to the crew and staff of the Titanic on that fateful night.


"We mustn't alarm the passengers"

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 12, 2016 07:16 AM (J+eG2)

868 The video that is headlining Drudge that has apparently been "removed by the user"--which video is that? Is it the video of her collapsing, or something different? It's been that way for a few hours now.

Posted by: LivingInABlueState at September 12, 2016 07:17 AM (m+Fo1)

869 I've also read that a side effect of antidepressant usage is Parkinson's. I know both my wife's parents took what they referred to as 'happy pills'.

I could see Hillary taking antidepressants for decades.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 12, 2016 07:17 AM (ZFUt7)

870 Ya know what surprises me the most about yesterday? That she did not crap her pants when she fainted. Or maybe she did?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:17 AM (s0LuT)

871 Instead of campaigning she should harken down to that Methodist church she is claiming as her church in DC and do some serious praying for her sins which are multitudinous.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 07:11 AM (mpXpK)

Agreed.

But she needs to be delivered and baptized again at the very least before praying for forgiveness of sins.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:17 AM (H8Bf9)

872 864 Ya know I went to Dental School so my diagnosis is that she is old and ugly.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:14 AM (s0LuT)

But how are her teeth? I am pretty sure I would not want to see her in a chair and have to stare down that maw. Some things a man was not meant to look upon.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 07:18 AM (WV3Yp)

873 865
"Have to laugh at the InfoWars brigade claiming it was Hillary's "stunt double" "



Yeah, that's just dumb.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 07:15 AM (97XyN)

I wouldn't rule anything out. Some body double nobody ever heard of dies from sudden-onset multiple old-age related disorders, and Hillary Clinton makes a miraculous recovery.

I used to know an old Cuban man in FL who swore up and down that there had been at least 3 different Fidel Castros over the years...

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 12, 2016 07:18 AM (J+mig)

874 Now she's sick and that makes her awesome.

If you said she was sick before you were a hater.

It's hard to keep up.

Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2016 07:18 AM (ACqhm)

875 North Korea said on Sunday a push for further sanctions following its fifth and biggest nuclear test was laughable

Gotta agree with North Korea on this one!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:19 AM (s0LuT)

876 Trump was just on Fox & Friends. He smartly treaded carefully when asked about Hillary's health. All Trump would say is that "he does not know" but "we have to find out what's going on" and that he "hopes she gets well soon and is back on fate campaign trail".

Also...Had a fresh physical done last week and he'll be releasing detailed numbers later this week.

BTW, I would like to know the medications that BOTH Trump and Hillary are on.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 12, 2016 07:19 AM (U4VYC)

877 Twitter was fun last night. As Hillary's story changed, so changed the support from her Biggest Fans. First, everyone asking about her health was belittled as conspiracy theorists. Then she was over heated, as was perfectly normal for someone wearing.....and I'm not making this up.....body armor, and a bra. This was exacerbated by the sweltering temperature, and oppressive humidity, (77 f, and 38%). Matty Iglesias, Paul Krugman, and one other recognizable name all chimed in on how unbelievably hot it was.

Her gaggle of presstitutes weren't notified, because Hillary was being super polite, and didn't want her departure to detract from the solemn occasion. And finally it was revealed that she has pneumonia. Now she was gravely ill, but resolutely soldiering on. Presidential. Relatable. And how mean the right was for even bringing attention to her obvious illness! "Wow", said a couple different tweets....If they weren't voting for Hillary before, they sure were now!

I expect the neck snapping reversals, and changes to stories to continue this morning.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 12, 2016 07:20 AM (qcEkj)

878 Some things a man was not meant to look upon.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 07:18 AM (WV3Yp)

Tel me about it!LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:20 AM (s0LuT)

879

She changed clothing because she pooped 'em when she went down.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 07:20 AM (qul7b)

880 The news talking heads are out trying to bait Trump into commenting on Hillary's health.

Trump and his team have been told to stay on message this week: The Deplorables.

Wise strategy.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:20 AM (H8Bf9)

881 My wall calendar tells me today is National Day of Encouragement.

Um...WTF is that?

But I would like to participate by encouraging Hildebeeste to stay in the race, make as many public appearances as possible, let the press film her at all times, and do the debates standing up.

Just doing my civic duty.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 07:20 AM (WlGX+)

882 Oh my aching ass. Look at what ABC has to do with their poll to give hillary a 8 point lead over Trump:

"Partisan divisions are 34-24-33 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents,in the full sample,and 36-28-31 among likely voters."

Ain't no way that is going to happen in November. They are literally cooking the books to show hillary in the lead.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 12, 2016 07:20 AM (iONHu)

883 Ya know I went to Dental School so my diagnosis is that she is old and ugly.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:14 AM (s0LuT)

---

Shit! That's funny.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 12, 2016 07:21 AM (U4VYC)

884 Now she's sick and that makes her awesome.

If you said she was sick before you were a hater.

It's hard to keep up.

Posted by: blaster

On WZ there's a piece on some "female progressive writer" that male media don't appreciate affect of heat on women.

"I'm so dizzy my head is spinning,
Like a whirlpool it never ends"

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 07:22 AM (8ikIW)

885 "The news talking heads are out trying to bait Trump into commenting on Hillary's health."

He should send flowers and a fruit basket.

Posted by: Ripley at September 12, 2016 07:22 AM (1BQGO)

886 >>But how are her teeth? I am pretty sure I would not want to see her in a
chair and have to stare down that maw. Some things a man was not meant
to look upon.


Ugh, that one yellow front tooth (the left one)!

Before the "overheating" Hillary looked like death warmed over. There are days where it appears she has been rolled out of bed and dressed, and that's it - flat hair, no make-up, not 100% alert. It really is a "weekend at Bernie's" candidacy.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 07:22 AM (NOIQH)

887 #852

Not really. It was largely all put out there but those already in the bag for whoever the Dems nominated refused to even consider it.

I wasn't strongly aligned either way back in the '92 election period but remember believing that much of it was just made up tabloid BS. Nowadays, much of it is fairly well documented. Nothing of the sort needed to prosecute for corruption but so many accounts from people who were there and are in agreement despite not having known each other well. (Hitchens said he knew of a woman Bill had attacked but who wasn't among those known publicly and certain damning aspects of her account were notable in that they were not yet known to most. Bill's penchant for biting his victim's on the lip, for instance.)

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 07:23 AM (IdCqF)

888 The humidity in NYC at 9 am yesterday was a paltry 39%.

How many times did the lying, treasonous press tell us it was "humid?"

Shit, here at the edge of the Great Lakes, we'd almost kill for 39%.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 07:23 AM (WlGX+)

889 She changed clothing because she pooped 'em when she went down.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 07:20 AM (qul7b)

Ooorrr... her medics had to rip her shirt away to get the paddles against her chest.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 12, 2016 07:23 AM (U4VYC)

890 But she needs to be delivered and baptized again at the very least before praying for forgiveness of sins.Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:17 AM (H8Bf9)


Then the church would have to be fumigated, sanitized, and re-consecrated.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 12, 2016 07:24 AM (ZFUt7)

891 "On WZ there's a piece on some "female progressive writer" that male media don't appreciate affect of heat on women."

And as someone here commented right after that.


Almost as if placing women in Afghanistan, or in combat fighting vehicles could be problematic.

Maybe even hot engineering spaces on ships.


Trigglypuff....either women are delicate flowers of virtue, deserving of special treatment due to their unique physiological requirements..
Or they are just like men.

Pick a story, and stick to it.

M'Kay?

Posted by: Deplorable VIA at September 12, 2016 07:25 AM (J+eG2)

892 Most of the national news has buried the Hillary story, Headlining the football stories. Just saying Hillary has canceled some events because of a health issue.....nothing to see here, move along....

Posted by: Colin at September 12, 2016 07:25 AM (hIWCG)

893 He should send flowers and a fruit basket.

With chocolates wrapped in foil that say "deplorables"

Posted by: bananaDream at September 12, 2016 07:25 AM (Ag8Mw)

894 Before the "overheating" Hillary looked like death warmed over. There are days where it appears she has been rolled out of bed and dressed,

In the CNN interview immediately beforehand, she looked like she had been literally plopped into her chair, legs awkwardly splayed out in front of her. Given the way her legs seized up in the video...WTF IS WRONG WITH HER?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 07:25 AM (WlGX+)

895 Before the "overheating" Hillary looked like death warmed over. There are days where it appears she has been rolled out of bed and dressed, and that's it - flat hair, no make-up, not 100% alert. It really is a "weekend at Bernie's" candidacy.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 07:22 AM (NOIQH)

She really does look like shit. All that money and THAT is the best they can do?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:26 AM (s0LuT)

896 Ooorrr... her medics had to rip her shirt away to get the paddles against her chest.

Posted by: Serious Cat


Prayers for the medics that had to see that.

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 07:26 AM (8ikIW)

897 She look like she buys all her cloths in the tent department The of Ramsey Outdoor Store.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:27 AM (s0LuT)

898 Meanwhile has anyone heard a peep out of bill?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:28 AM (s0LuT)

899 Rhetorical question:

69 yr old female patient displays symptoms of overheating and walking pneumonia and NO ONE thinks to take her to the hospital?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2016 07:28 AM (pREVk)

900 69 yr old female patient displays symptoms of overheating and walking pneumonia and NO ONE thinks to take her to the hospital?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2016 07:28 AM (pREVk)

Well a Hospital has one major drawback: They actually keep records

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:29 AM (s0LuT)

901 Trump this morning says he hopes Hillary feels well.
(Something like that - tv paraphrased)

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 12, 2016 07:30 AM (Om16U)

902 She look like she buys all her cloths in the tent department The of Ramsey Outdoor Store.

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Ha. My dad would refer to buying from "Omar the Tentmaker"

A look up said there was a 1922 film by that name. But also urban dictionary says it's "the section in clothing store for heavier ladies"

Who knew my dad was so with it back in the 60's?

Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 07:31 AM (8ikIW)

903 895 Before the "overheating" Hillary looked like death warmed over. There are days where it appears she has been rolled out of bed and dressed, and that's it - flat hair, no make-up, not 100% alert. It really is a "weekend at Bernie's" candidacy.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 07:22 AM (NOIQH)

She really does look like shit. All that money and THAT is the best they can do?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:26 AM (s0LuT)

She looks 95. And she looks like she is very sick belonging in a assisted medical retirement home.

My grandmother lived to be late 90's and she looked better than Hillary.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:31 AM (H8Bf9)

904 The Hekawi appreciate the VNN!!

Posted by: Chief Wild Eagle at September 12, 2016 07:31 AM (22uju)

905 #869

I would expect it to be the other way around, with Parkinson's patients likely to be prescribed antidepressants.

There is a side effect called tardive dyskinesia, which can manifest as trembling hands and might be mistaken for Parkinson's. I've had to read and sign forms warning of this.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 07:33 AM (IdCqF)

906 Who knew my dad was so with it back in the 60's?
Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2016 07:31 AM (8ikIW)


Sigh yeah...We all don't usually realize our Dad's were right about most things till it is to late.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:33 AM (s0LuT)

907 69 yr old female patient displays symptoms of overheating and walking pneumonia and NO ONE thinks to take her to the hospital?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2016 07:28 AM (pREVk)

It's the constantly changing story that is just bug nuts crazy to me:
1) She just "stumbled" as she got into the car! Lol! She was just a bit overheated and needed some AC. It's really warm there!
2) (Two hours later) See! She is fine! She is even talking to random, cute, passing children and looks in great health!
3) (Two hours later) She has walking pnuemonia! How heroic that she can even get her wasted, disease ridden body out of bed, let alone go to a tribute to a day that we all knew was George W's fault anyway!
4) How heroic! What Iron Will!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 07:33 AM (WV3Yp)

908 My grandma lived to 105 and she looked better than Hillary. Didn't use a walker till she hit 99. Hardy Italian peasant stock.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 07:34 AM (WlGX+)

909 We're haters for thinking she's sick, which then made her sick.

VAR conspiracy, uh huh.

At the outpatient surgery place with my mom...

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 12, 2016 07:36 AM (8Unxl)

910 It's the constantly changing story that is just bug nuts crazy to me:
1) She just "stumbled" as she got into the car!



Stumbled? I watched the video. Just as she takes a step towards the vehicle, she goes limp like she'd been hit with a tazer. I'll bet THAT'S when she filled her Depends.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2016 07:36 AM (pREVk)

911 Trump is scheduled on at least 2 morning shows this morning (CNBC and Fox and Friends)

All eyes and ears shall be upon him.

Hope Kellyanne has him prepped. Just wish her well and pivot to "deplorables," Donald. PLEASE.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 07:36 AM (WlGX+)

912 900 69 yr old female patient displays symptoms of overheating and walking pneumonia and NO ONE thinks to take her to the hospital?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2016 07:28 AM (pREVk)

Well a Hospital has one major drawback: They actually keep records
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:29 AM (

Which may explain why she is fading so quickly before our eyes. She always kept a small circle of doctors who could not provide the treatment and medications she needed 10 years ago or more.

Going to get proper testing and medical care done as a Senator would have risked her future political career and 100's of millions of dollars in graft and grift to the Foundation.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:36 AM (H8Bf9)

913 Lol. I am looking through youtube and saw a "The Adventures of Phillip Marlowe" episode called "The Panama Hat" and the first thing I thought of was "Is Hat posting youtube videos now?"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 07:37 AM (WV3Yp)

914 I sort of wonder what the real diagnosis actually is.

Posted by: MTF at September 12, 2016 07:37 AM (/m8T6)

915 "I wouldn't rule anything out. Some body double nobody ever heard of dies from sudden-onset multiple old-age related disorders, and Hillary Clinton makes a miraculous recovery."

I think it's not possible that the person making the appearance outside Chelsea's was someone other than Hillary. Not possible.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 07:38 AM (97XyN)

916 Hillary is to be know as the "iron lady" (has that phase already be used by others? Anyway she will overcome illness, and become a great fighting president. Strong and confidence radiating from her.....

Now for our reading of this not the MFM....

Posted by: Colin at September 12, 2016 07:39 AM (hIWCG)

917 Trump campaign handling this well - Kellyanne Conway on MSNBC steering clear of commenting on her health, just well wishes that she's back on the campaign trail soon.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 07:39 AM (NOIQH)

918 #902

We used to joke about a clothing line from Canvas Specialties. There were the company that made the big red and white striped sideshow tent belonging to the guy I worked for during much of my teens. It was 40x80 if all three sections were used.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 07:39 AM (IdCqF)

919 Which may explain why she is fading so quickly before our eyes. She always kept a small circle of doctors who could not provide the treatment and medications she needed 10 years ago or more.

Going to get proper testing and medical care done as a Senator would have risked her future political career and 100's of millions of dollars in graft and grift to the Foundation.
Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:36 AM (H8Bf9)

Her doctor, from what I read, has not maintained her certification. She's still allowed to practice medicine but I guess it's a problem with getting insurance, etc.

Best cast is she hangs in there until the end of October and then collapses so that the Dems are out of choices.

Posted by: GOPe and NRO at September 12, 2016 07:39 AM (Ee2nz)

920 I think it's not possible that the person making the appearance outside Chelsea's was someone other than Hillary. Not possible.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 07:38 AM (97XyN)

At first I say it is impossible from a plausibility standpoint, but the left these days seems to have the Stalin style guide out for a lot of things.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (WV3Yp)

921 Rememeber in 2004 when John Kerry (the media) applauded him for campaigning with walking pnuemonia?

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (H8Bf9)

922 910 Stumbled? I watched the video. Just as she takes a step towards the vehicle, she goes limp like she'd been hit with a tazer
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Her upper body, I agree. But it looked like her legs were twitching, also as if she were having a seizure of some sort.

Posted by: MTF at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (/m8T6)

923 Off sock.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (Ee2nz)

924 I think it's not possible that the person making the appearance outside Chelsea's was someone other than Hillary. Not possible.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 07:38 AM (97XyN)


I think it's highly improbable, but wouldn't rule it out. There's some strangers that look a whole lot alike out there, and it wouldn't be the first time someone famous had a within-makeup-range-perfect double. That said, it's far more likely that they just cranked her up with high-powered medicinal go-juice to put on a song and dance routine.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (J+mig)

925 By the By I am sitting here in my Office at NMC Portsmouth and my "Team" is already 15 minutes late. They better be bringing me coffee

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (s0LuT)

926 But it looked like her legs were twitching, also as if she were having a seizure of some sort.
Posted by: MTF at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (/m8T6)

Maybe she was just trying to shake out the Shart

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 12, 2016 07:41 AM (s0LuT)

927 Her doctor, from what I read, has not maintained her certification. She's still allowed to practice medicine but I guess it's a problem with getting insurance, etc.

Best cast is she hangs in there until the end of October and then collapses so that the Dems are out of choices.
Posted by: GOPe and NRO at September 12, 2016 07:39 AM (Ee2nz)

No Shit?!?!

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:42 AM (H8Bf9)

928 I think it's highly improbable, but wouldn't rule it out. There's some strangers that look a whole lot alike out there, and it wouldn't be the first time someone famous had a within-makeup-range-perfect double. That said, it's far more likely that they just cranked her up with high-powered medicinal go-juice to put on a song and dance routine.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (J+mig)

Which, if true, cannot be good for her. The lady is nearly 70 for goodness sake. She is seriously going to either win the presidency or put herself in the ground.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 07:43 AM (WV3Yp)

929 Back on the WTC for a moment. Remember a few years ago, when Obama/Clinton et al overthrew the Egyptian military government briefly, and let their buddies in the MB take over? There was all this talk that the Egyptians were going to formally ask TFG to let the Blind Sheik go, and that the idiot President was actually going to do it.

Thank heavens the world dodged that problem, and the Egyptian Army said "Enough!" to mob rule.

Posted by: MTF at September 12, 2016 07:43 AM (/m8T6)

930 Trump campaign handling this well - Kellyanne Conway on MSNBC steering clear of commenting on her health, just well wishes that she's back on the campaign trail soon.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 07:39 AM (NOIQH)

Yep, just keep talking about how you hope she gets well enough to campaign. The subtle knife twist that she isn't healthy enough to get out of the house.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 12, 2016 07:44 AM (Ee2nz)

931 SKYPE meeting today at 2:00 regarding our now 2-month long "work entirely from home" experiment.

Fingers crossed. Our owner/president was in a pissy mood late last week over a few slightly tardy responses to e-mails. Not that that has anything to do with whether one as working at home or i an office. But still, worried.

We've worked our butts off to make this experiment work and it has worked VERY well. I'm nervous about this meeting.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 12, 2016 07:44 AM (WlGX+)

932 Her upper body, I agree. But it looked like her legs were twitching, also as if she were having a seizure of some sort.




Seizure or CNS reboot.
Her legs were twitching from trying to hold up her carcass. She went limp like a hammer hit cow at the slaughterhouse.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2016 07:44 AM (pREVk)

933 Which, if true, cannot be good for her. The lady is
nearly 70 for goodness sake. She is seriously going to either win the
presidency or put herself in the ground.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2016 07:43 AM (WV3Yp)


I don't think either they or she cares if she lives far past inauguration. Just long enough that she could hand over the reins to Generic Communist without sparking any kind of crisis of leadership, and maybe make a Supreme Court appointment before expiring.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 12, 2016 07:45 AM (J+mig)

934 >>69 yr old female patient displays symptoms of overheating and walking pneumonia and NO ONE thinks to take her to the hospital?

One could think that maybe Hillary has a private medical set-up to take care of these events...because they happen so often.

When she left the 9-11 event, she was holding the hand of her doctor - wow, why was her doctor there by her side? She was picked up in a black van, not her usual SUV - was that an ambulance/modified SS vehicle for medical emergencies? Did she really go right to Chelsea's? Her press gaggle was prevented from following her and left in the dark on her whereabouts for over 90 minutes.



Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2016 07:45 AM (NOIQH)

935 #931

Make sure the hand puppet is in good shape and ready.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 07:46 AM (IdCqF)

936 dump

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 12, 2016 07:46 AM (mpXpK)

937 924 I think it's not possible that the person making the appearance outside Chelsea's was someone other than Hillary. Not possible.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 12, 2016 07:38 AM (97XyN)

To be fair, people quit their day jobs to appear as performers as a body and voice double as famous people for events.

I would assume the same holds true for famous totalitarians.

The fact that people are entertaining it speaks to the level of mistrust towards the Clintons and the media.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:46 AM (H8Bf9)

938

Looking at the closeups, I would say the thing that hit the ground was a case for injection meds, autoinjectors or bottles and syringes. High riskers often have a pocket kit even if they have mics around.

Or possibly a cigar case...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 12, 2016 07:46 AM (qul7b)

939 Maybe Hillary! can work from home!

Posted by: Weasel at September 12, 2016 07:46 AM (6xtq3)

940 The arrogance of running when you are a physical disaster. That's what inspires me about Democrats.

With proper care Hillary could have lived until she's 80. Aspiration pneumonia is a fucking killer when you are treating it properly. It's too little too late, I fear. Even her limited schedule was far too much. She needed to stop months ago.

Posted by: I love Science in the ass at September 12, 2016 07:46 AM (svFmG)

941 hat said, it's far more likely that they just cranked her up with high-powered medicinal go-juice to put on a song and dance routine.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (J+mig)

That's my theory. They hop her up on drugs long enough to make appearances. But, they can't keep doing that forever. I would say there's a good chance she dies during an event.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 12, 2016 07:48 AM (Ee2nz)

942 I think it's highly improbable, but wouldn't rule it out. There's some strangers that look a whole lot alike out there, and it wouldn't be the first time someone famous had a within-makeup-range-perfect double. That said, it's far more likely that they just cranked her up with high-powered medicinal go-juice to put on a song and dance routine.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 12, 2016 07:40 AM (J+mig)

Yeah.. but to look AND sound like each other? Not possible. Only identical twins can pull that off.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 12, 2016 07:50 AM (U4VYC)

943 One very noticeable thing about the whole event is that nobody in the protective grouping around her looked at all surprised. As Ace pointed out, from the looks on everyone's faces the collapse looked like a usual, everyday event.

At Chelsea's apartment they hid her from view when she was trying to get into the vehicle, as they normally do. I wonder if they have to lift her in by hand every time...

Posted by: MTF at September 12, 2016 07:51 AM (/m8T6)

944 The DNC meetings. That's where I'd like to be a fly in the wall today.

Posted by: Pepe the Irredeemable, founder of the fn-right at September 12, 2016 07:55 AM (H8Bf9)

945 So, yesterday I slept much of the day away. Today, when I actually have work for once I wake up after only three hours. The work is a short walk from Union Station (L.A City Hall complex) so I hope taking the train makes the days less fatiguing than last week. The commute by car can be two hours on the lousier traffic days. (There are no good traffic days if you have to anywhere near downtown. Just bad and worse.)

Posted by: Epobirs at September 12, 2016 08:00 AM (IdCqF)

946 "Watched a 30 minute video of a retired doctor laying out the Hillary has Parkinson's for the last 10 years."

An anonymous commenter purporting to be a doc, over at Prof Reynolds's place, was suggesting instead the similar malady of progressive supranuclear palsy.

Since Hillary lacks tremor during intentional movements such as reaching out to take a supporter's hand, as would be characteristic in Parkinson's.

PSP would be equally dangerous and disqualifying.

It also predisposes to aspiration pneumonia in exactly the same way that Parkinson's predisposes patients to it.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 12, 2016 03:04 PM (noWW6)

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