ONT 8/18/16 DIY edition [krakatoa]

So a couple days ago I pimped my brother's books here. The response was amazing, and he is very much appreciated. Thank you very much. Of course, if this is new information to the graveyard shift, check out that post, and see if you can't help his numbers.

One thing I didn't mention on that thread, because, well, I didn't know, was that any reviews on Amazon would be appreciated as well. According to him:

The reviews not only let people know that books were read and liked, but also very much help in the ranking system so when people do a general search, those pop up nearer to top. It's not the only thing that modifies the ranking, but it does have a significant impact.
No need to game the system and add reviews if you didn't read the book or novella. We are all above such things. Well, most of us. But if you read it, he'd appreciate reviews, even bad ones. He's a new author and appreciates constructive input.

On to the regular ONT content, which is less content than point your fingers and laugh at my cheapness and pain.

Not your correspondent. Yet.

I sit here humbled once again in my ongoing travails as a DIY handiman. Home ownership is a hell of a thing, especially in the age of Obama. But it's mine in spirit, if not exactly in tax law, and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay anyone to do something I should be able to do myself.

The past few weeks have been busy. I had to replacing the pool pump. (I know, you weep already for the poverty of chez krakatoa). Built some raised beds. Am in the process of re-vamping the home network.

This week our 20 year old Maytag went south when the washing machine drum stopped spinning. I figure, how expensive can that be to fix? Well, I find to my delight it's just a basic 10 amp 250v glass fuse that has blown on the motor control board. Ok, sez I, I'm getting off real cheap. Then I notice the fuse is soldered in, and I decide to do a little interweb 'slootin.

Well, it turns out you can't just replace the fuse. The fuse blowing is an indicator you've got bigger problems, either on the board (250 bucks), or the motor (200 bucks). The recommended fix is a conversion to a new motor/control board combo for only 300 bucks.

My friend who works in HVAC (yes, the same crappy friend from the free book thread) tells me that in this scenario, technically, yes it's a fuse, but it's actually being used as a resister, and yes, soldering in a new fuse is a waste of time. He also called me a cheap bastard with a flinty heart and smelly feet.

Full disclosure: my feet don't stink that bad if I bathe regularly. Yes, I have a flinty heart, but I blame my friend for it, so I think we can call that a draw.

I am a cheap bastard though. Ask anyone. Yes, I live in a house with an indoor pool, but you wouldn't believe the deal we got on this place. The one repair that came up I didn't attack myself was when my HVAC went down. Leaking coolant somewhere. I'm under warranty, but still had to argue with them over whether a leaky coolant tube counted as "equipment" under their 10 year equipment warranty, and explain to them that I would not be paying for the 4 extra visits it took for them to actually show up with the right equipment and find the leak. You can understand why I am hesitant to bring in third parties for repairs.

So I gambled on a 50 dollar used controller board off Ebay instead of dealing w/ a repair man. I figured I had a 50/50 chance of it working. And for once, I lucked out. Got it in today, plugged it in with minimal effort, and the drum spins.

Then I decide to push my luck since its already partially disassembled, and figure I'll put on the nice door boot we ordered a couple months ago since the current one is pretty dirty.

How hard could that be, right?

Pretty got-damned impossible if you don't have a set of locking pliers, that's how hard.

One finger has a nasty blood blister. On another I bent the nail back on, and while not bleeding, it hurts. And the washing machine sits still disassembled and useless until I buy the right tool for the job.

The right tools, cursing you later regret, at least double the expected time, and real blood, sweat and tears are the hidden expenses involved with DIY.

So in the next couple weeks my brother comes down and we frame out my basement, re-floor the sunroom from the studs up, and maybe even work on a deck extension and a knock-sensor replacement for my 20 year old car. I'm a sucker for punishment. But it still beats the hell out of my day job.

Check my moron math then: 2 fingers down = 2 extra fingers of Scotch.

On second thought, don't check my math. Sweet oblivionousness beckons.

Oh, and re. the caption on the pic up there? A leak has sprung up in my garage roof. So... yeah. It could get that ugly.

For the rest of the DIY theme: Well, today was really busy and painful, both with paying work, and home repair work.

So you you'll just have to DIY some entertaining links.

If you are really hard up, you can always go check out the blog of a guy that really knows how to ONT.

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1 Nuke it all.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 10:39 PM (0mRoj)

2 First?

Posted by: Weirddave at August 18, 2016 10:39 PM (N8hFs)

3 Howdy, y'all!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 10:40 PM (EzgxV)

4 Nearish to first

Posted by: TexasDan at August 18, 2016 10:40 PM (FnuZG)

5 Well, hello there ONT.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2016 10:40 PM (/hxGw)

6 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 18, 2016 10:41 PM (KCxzN)

7 There are no studs in a floor.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2016 10:42 PM (/hxGw)

8 7 There are no studs in a floor.
Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2016 10:42 PM (/hxGw)

There are studs in a farm.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 10:42 PM (0mRoj)

9 That guy in the picture, I actually did that wiring houses back in my early 20s.

We were doing the finish work, and I was up in a hot attic doing something -- I think I was wiring an air handler for the 2nd story.

I tripped over something and stepped off the joist and put my foot through the sheetrock.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 10:42 PM (DW+jj)

10 You can buy a used washing machine for less than $200.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 18, 2016 10:42 PM (MNgU2)

11 Howdy from Texas!

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at August 18, 2016 10:42 PM (nvMvs)

12 7 comments in, and the horde is already workin' my tits.

Posted by: krakatoa at August 18, 2016 10:43 PM (RCS9o)

13 So in the next couple weeks my brother comes down and we frame out my basement, re-floor the sunroom from the studs up, and maybe even work on a deck extension and a knock-sensor replacement for my 20 year old car.

I keep telling myself that I should clean the bathroom one of these weekends. Ha! Who am I kidding?

Posted by: rickl at August 18, 2016 10:44 PM (sdi6R)

14 Joist is the word you are looking for.

Which is close to Joust.

Which is an awesome video game.

I want a battle ostrich and a shock lance.


Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2016 10:44 PM (/hxGw)

15 Howdy, beloved Horde!

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2016 10:44 PM (xVuS6)

16 Not a DIYer. I'm actually decent with my hands, I just don't have the knowledge. What little I learned in shop class is now a distant, faded memory.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 10:44 PM (0mRoj)

17 It's just a light massage.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 18, 2016 10:45 PM (MNgU2)

18 DIY projects in the name of avoiding repair or build projects outsourcing have netted me some great toys over the years - MIG welder, plasma cutter, various saws, drill press, nail guns, etc. All I needed to learn I found on the Internets. I gained skills and the hubs likes buying me tools for gifts. Win. Win.

Posted by: Hazchic at August 18, 2016 10:45 PM (ljtnt)

19 DYI sucks, but you learn a lot and it's sometimes cheaper.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 10:45 PM (obSfm)

20 12 7 comments in, and the horde is already workin' my tits.
Posted by: krakatoa at August 18, 2016 10:43 PM (RCS9o)

Don't look at me, I'm all in favor of your nuking plan.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 10:46 PM (0mRoj)

21
There are no studs in a floor.
Posted by: garrett



He's trying to claim Man-Points -- while complaining about ruining his manicure.

Being a bit fuzzy on proper carpentry nomenclature might not be the critical issue here.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2016 10:46 PM (kdS6q)

22 So they're finally admitting that they forked over $400 million to get back hostage sailors?

What they haven't explained is why they didn't just have Moose frown and hold up a hand-scrawled cardboard sign that reads, "Give our sailors back."

...Or does that not really accomplish anything?

Posted by: RKae at August 18, 2016 10:46 PM (CYNno)

23 I want a battle ostrich...

Name it after me...

Posted by: Glenn at August 18, 2016 10:47 PM (y0er3)

24 And don't say the "b" word!

Posted by: Bossy at August 18, 2016 10:47 PM (CYNno)

25 Erev tov, y'ins!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 10:48 PM (kP16F)

26 The thing about DIY is you have to have a sense as to when exactly you are out of your depth.
The other part is money vs. pain.
I have put in about 5 garbage disposals in my life, so I know I can do it, but if I have the $ to pay someone else to do it for me, and why should I have all the fun?

Posted by: navybrat at August 18, 2016 10:48 PM (w7KSn)

27 There are no studs in a floor.>>>

How are we supposed to know what he has buried under there?

Posted by: Willy J. at August 18, 2016 10:49 PM (CDowr)

28 Hey all, how's it going?

Posted by: Farmer at August 18, 2016 10:50 PM (o/90i)

29 Fun, yeah. I installed a garbage disposal by myself. Those fvckers are heavy and awkward.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 10:51 PM (obSfm)

30 Good evening, Horde!

It's that time of year again: ramping up for the 3rd Annual Southwest Ohio Moron Meetup.

Scheduled for October 22nd in the Dayton area.

Want to be kept in the loop?

Drop me a line at swohmome@mail.com (and please include your nic).

Posted by: ibguy at August 18, 2016 10:51 PM (vUcdz)

31 BTW,
Brent (crude) now within a buck and change of it's 12 month high.

Remember when Brexit was going to wreck oil prices?

Good times, good times...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 18, 2016 10:51 PM (C9pBZ)

32 Our educational system is dominated by females. 1 male teacher in the pre-k thru 5th grade. What a fucking joke. On top of the fact of decouraging father involvement at the schools.

No wonder our boys are failing.

I'm super pissed at the school meeting I attended.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 10:51 PM (WqEER)

33 I'm not bad at DYI but I'm slow. What takes me all day, a professional does in a couple of hours or less. I don't mind paying for my time.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 18, 2016 10:51 PM (MNgU2)

34 I have put in about 5 garbage disposals in my life, so I know I can do it, but if I have the $ to pay someone else to do it for me, and why should I have all the fun?

I can do a sink-monster in my sleep. Plumbing comes naturally to me.

I'm ok with electricity.

Carpentry is what really causes me to lose my shit, mostly because I measure twice and still fuck it up somehow.

Posted by: krakatoa at August 18, 2016 10:52 PM (RCS9o)

35 I have put in about 5 garbage disposals in my life, so I know I can do it, but if I have the $ to pay someone else to do it for me, and why should I have all the fun?

Posted by: navybrat

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I have an entire Spalding-Gray-styled monologue about changing garbage disposals.

It's like the people making sinks NEVER thought anyone would put a garbage disposal on there; in fact, they'll be angry if you do. It's such a headache that I always think I'm illegally attaching pirate merchandise onto the sink.

Just had to change my porch lights. Same deal.

Every time I DIY, I run into the fact that all this stuff is designed by lunatics and complete fucking idiots.

Posted by: Bossy at August 18, 2016 10:52 PM (CYNno)

36 My LG Washer stopped working and I replaced the "main board" myself. The outfit I bought the part from (RepairClinic) also had helpful YouTube videos on how to do it.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at August 18, 2016 10:53 PM (J9FkY)

37 That picture hurts! I did that once, just getting something out of my mom's attic. Horrible moment of thinking the leg was broken and how the heck were they going to get me out and down the stairs. Just a bad bruise at the knee that hurt like the devil and lasted for months. So, be careful up there Krak!
And greetings, horde, long time lurker here and very occasional poster. Just want to ask y'all to keep our Louisiana folks in your prayers. It's very bad over there still.

Posted by: Miss Sippi at August 18, 2016 10:53 PM (ByoS/)

38 Uh......hey there.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 18, 2016 10:53 PM (s7n0C)

39 >>Carpentry is what really causes me to lose my shit, mostly because I measure twice and still fuck it up somehow.



Get a new tape.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2016 10:53 PM (/hxGw)

40 The thing I learned about putting in garbage disposals is that I must not have any children around me, because I will be constantly swearing a blue streak.

Posted by: navybrat at August 18, 2016 10:53 PM (w7KSn)

41 I tried DIY on my car when I was about 20.

I got over it pretty quickly.

One time I was talking to a customer at work about home repairs. He showed me his checkbook and said, "This is my toolbox."

Same here. It's simply ridiculous for me to spend hours struggling, screaming, and cursing, when I can pay someone to do it in 10 minutes.

Posted by: rickl at August 18, 2016 10:54 PM (sdi6R)

42 There are no studs in a floor.>>>

How are we supposed to know what he has buried under there?
Posted by: Willy J.

----

"Tear up the planks! Here! Here! It is the beating of his hideous heart!"

Posted by: RKae at August 18, 2016 10:54 PM (CYNno)

43 30 Fun, yeah. I installed a garbage disposal by myself. Those fvckers are heavy and awkward.
Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 10:51 PM (obSfm)

What do you got, a Clarkman?

Posted by: David Puddy at August 18, 2016 10:54 PM (7qAYi)

44 The New Washing machines such BALLS because they don't use as much water and they have to use less energy.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 18, 2016 10:54 PM (dKiJG)

45 what a great ont.
i love diy.

you morons were a huge help over the years, what with learning to paint with a sprayer, giving advice on towing a truck and info on my 7mm. still have to construct my clothesline. having a new home is a dream come true.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 18, 2016 10:55 PM (K5zCh)

46 >>It's simply ridiculous for me to spend hours struggling, screaming, and cursing, when I can pay someone to do it in 10 minutes.


The Paolo is glad to help you, my friend.

Posted by: Paolo at August 18, 2016 10:55 PM (/hxGw)

47 In my neck of the woods, it seems most handymen can't be bothered to make money. I have a girlfriend that's been trying to get someone to mount her stupid flat screen for a couple months now.

And I'll probably end up doing it. Because nobody told me that sometimes you have female friends you arent trying to sleep with but still need to do stuff for.

Posted by: Chupacabra at August 18, 2016 10:55 PM (McglG)

48 When I lived in the city, I used to say "if you want something done right, pay someone who knows what they're doing."

I live in the country now. If you want something done at all, you do it yourself.

Posted by: major major major major at August 18, 2016 10:55 PM (fA/Ij)

49 My washing machine and dryer were both built in 1958. Installed in the basement by the previous owner. I "inherited" them whne I moved in a couple decades ago.

To this day, the work perfectly. Zero problems.

(Well, that's not entirely true: the dryer has a couple of weird quirks about the timer settings, but as loing as you know to just turn it "On" and futz around remembering which timing setting works, you're fine.)

I think these were made just before the final triumph of planned obsolescence.

Posted by: zombie at August 18, 2016 10:55 PM (jBuUi)

50 If you're looking for a book on American soccer with a conservative slant, try Rory Miller's 100 Most Influential people in the history of American soccer.

It subtly lays to waist the misconception that soccer was built here by liberals. From Reagan to Kissinger to the conservative owners who lost hundreds of millions to get MLS off the ground, it's the only book to acknowledge this.

Posted by: Rory at August 18, 2016 10:56 PM (Wd0WT)

51 I tried DIY on my car when I was about 20.

I got over it pretty quickly.

----

I really miss my ol' '62 Skylark. Yup. Them were the days. Could work on it without cussing!

Now everything's INTENTIONALLY made to stop you.

Fuck you, modern auto manufacturers. Fuck you.

Posted by: RKae at August 18, 2016 10:56 PM (CYNno)

52 and futz around = and NOT futz around

Posted by: zombie at August 18, 2016 10:56 PM (jBuUi)

53 Google redneck repairs to see some hilarious DIY.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 18, 2016 10:56 PM (MNgU2)

54 I've heard that Maytags are a beyotch to repair.

Posted by: @votermom at August 18, 2016 10:56 PM (7lVbc)

55 I can do a sink-monster in my sleep. Plumbing comes naturally to me.



I'm ok with electricity.
>>>

Electricity used to scare me. Then I realized it is just plumbing with electrons (assuming there are no 3 way switches). Electrons come in and need to be drained. Switches are just valves. Not probably a perfect system but gets me through most projects.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 18, 2016 10:56 PM (CDowr)

56 38 That picture hurts! I did that once, just getting something out of my mom's attic. Horrible moment of thinking the leg was broken and how the heck were they going to get me out and down the stairs. Just a bad bruise at the knee that hurt like the devil and lasted for months. So, be careful up there Krak!
And greetings, horde, long time lurker here and very occasional poster. Just want to ask y'all to keep our Louisiana folks in your prayers. It's very bad over there still.
Posted by: Miss Sippi at August 18, 2016 10:53 PM (ByoS/)

Too bad y'all don't meet the correct demos for the immediate federal emergency asistance and airtime for charities to raise money.

If only we had some medium for government officials and leaders to bring attention to it....

Prayers for y'all from a fellow southerner.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 10:57 PM (WqEER)

57 Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 10:44 PM (0mRoj)

If you are good with your hands then you can fix anything.

I just replaced the socket in a light fixture. Never did it in my life, had no idea what the fuck I was doing, but with some careful observation and thought I got it done.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2016 10:57 PM (Zu3d9)

58 I am in the travails of home repair as well.

Re-flooring the entire house in vinyl plank. On the second floor this involves removing carpet, which, no big deal, but I'm a) a moron and b) an engineer, so I'm adding a reinforcing layer of sanded 1/4 plywood above the existing sheathing, offset from the existing joints, and glued and nailed. It's an awesome way to end squeaks and make the floor much, much stronger.

On the ground floor I'm busting tile off the slab and grinding it smooth. By hand.

Completely repainting the interior of the house.

Probably messing with the entire kitchen.

Looking at replacing all our windows, which are terrible single pane jobs from the 80's. And not with replacement windows, because they don't actually flash with the exterior waterproofing system, and I'm a flashing/counter-flashing kind of guy. Take that however you want.

And so to install windows the right way, I have to take off the siding. And the siding is crap anyway, and there's no housewrap so--I'm wrapping the house in Tyvek's new reflective house wrap that creates a radiant barrier.

It only creates a radiant barrier if you have a 3/4" air cavity, and I like the idea of rain screen systems anyway, so I'm cooking up my own rain screen system using hardiboard.

Finally, and this is the best part, the only stair in my home is a spiral stair, which is fine and the kids love it, but you cannot carry anything large up the stairs, and it's going to hurt resale. Also why we got the house cheap.

So I'm bumping out the back wall (the spiral stair is there because the guy before me added the second floor and did not plan correctly for his stair) and adding a proper two-run stair. But. Because I am both a moron and an engineer, I'm making the area under the intermediate landing a storm shelter, with CMU walls and a concrete lid. And some sort of steel frame door, which is my excuse for buying a welder.

Amazingly, my wife is more or less on board with all this. I just have to finish before my daughter graduates and therefore we have out of town guests and a graduation party in May of next year.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 18, 2016 10:57 PM (FnuZG)

59 If it has tits or tyres, you're going to have problems with it...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 10:57 PM (kP16F)

60 Prayers for you and yours Miss Sippi, and welcome.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 10:58 PM (obSfm)

61 I did that in 89 in my house in Phoenix. I had orders to Korea and was I was about to move out for a renter to move in. I was running cable through the rest of the house when some sweat got into my eyes. Went to wipe them out and stepped off the joist.

Posted by: Bill R. at August 18, 2016 10:59 PM (jKUeC)

62 Dumbest DIY thing I ever foolishly tried was finding a hand-held belt sander in some trash pile somewhere, and taking it home and plugging it in to see if it worked.

Damn thing blew out the fuses all over the house and fried a whole length of wiring inside the wall, necessitating an expensive repair.

After that, I had those newfangled "built-in circuit-breaker" type wall outlets.

Posted by: zombie at August 18, 2016 10:59 PM (jBuUi)

63 You can buy a used washing machine for less than $200.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 18, 2016 10:42 PM (MNgU2)


Indeed! And if the washer Krak is fixing is a front loader, and it sounds like it is, the best thing to do with it is take out into the woods, load it full of Tannerite, and shoot at it with a 30-06 until it goes Bang!. Then buy a decent top loader. I made the mistake, once, of buying a front-loader, and it gave me nothing but grief. Top-loaders are much more fault-tolerant.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2016 10:59 PM (oqkO3)

64 People have jobs to make a living. I believe in hiring people.

Oh I try the dyi projects. But they usually don't turn out to well.

Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 18, 2016 11:00 PM (voOPb)

65 27
The thing about DIY is you have to have a sense as to when exactly you are out of your depth.

The other part is money vs. pain.

I have put in about 5 garbage disposals in my life, so I know I can
do it, but if I have the $ to pay someone else to do it for me, and why
should I have all the fun?

Posted by: navybrat at August 18, 2016 10:48 PM (w7KSn)


Garbage disposals are a pain in the ass because you're flopping around on the floor with your head and hands in an undersink cabinet, not because they're difficult as such. If you could work on one seated comfortably in a chair with plenty of space all around, they'd be a walk in the park.
And part of my particular problem is that I remember the moment I screwed myself in a conversation with the cabinetmaker. Our north-side kitchen countertops are actually 3-1/2" deeper front-to-back than standard. This has numerous benefits and was an outstanding idea I found in a remodeling book. This was accomplished essentially by throwing a 2x4 behind the cabinets and making the exposed side panel larger.


The cabinets are (left to right) little drawers, undersink, dishwasher, pot/pan drawers. Because they're just moved away from the wall, we didn't have to go with custom drawer sizes for all the drawers -- good idea. Because the dishwasher sits on the floor and goes to the countertop, it's space is full depth -- good idea. Because the undermount sink has extra countertop to sit in, all the controls don't bump the backsplash and there's plenty of counter in front of the sink -- good idea....

But because the undersink cabinet doesn't go all the way back to the wall, all that space for dispensers and faucets and airgaps and the like.....are in a tiny crevice behind the sink and garbage disposal. Bad idea.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:00 PM (EzgxV)

66 48 In my neck of the woods, it seems most handymen can't be bothered to make money. I have a girlfriend that's been trying to get someone to mount her stupid flat screen for a couple months now.

And I'll probably end up doing it. Because nobody told me that sometimes you have female friends you arent trying to sleep with but still need to do stuff for.
Posted by: Chupacabra at August 18, 2016 10:55 PM (McglG)

A dozen sammichs seems fair.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:00 PM (WqEER)

67 Carpentry is what really causes me to lose my shit, mostly because I measure twice and still fuck it up somehow.

Posted by: krakatoa at August 18, 2016 10:52 PM (RCS9o)

After you cut it too short the first time measuring again will not help.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 18, 2016 11:00 PM (P/kVC)

68 DIY-ers here! Although I think we'll pay $omeone el$e to install AC next year.

Yeah, got to $ave $ave $ave for that.

We renovated the main bath last year-- looked great! Bonus: it *still* looks great! (I hate plumbing but can manage it...also tile, wall texture and paint...)

Posted by: JQ Flyover at August 18, 2016 11:00 PM (044Fx)

69 Well I could always use a few more reviews on my book from those who have read it. And if you haven't read it yet, please buy it?

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2016 11:00 PM (wg0zd)

70 I learned how to do car repairs on my first automobile, a 1970 Plymouth Valiant. It was already 15 years old when I bought it. It was easy to see where everything was and how to get to it; you could even see some of the driveway underneath when you opened the hood.

Now I have a 2012 Focus. If anything should go wrong, someone is getting paid, because I either can't find the problem or can't reach it if I find it.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 18, 2016 11:01 PM (s7n0C)

71
I can do a sink-monster in my sleep. Plumbing comes naturally to me.
Posted by: krakatoa



Toilets.

Not a lot of parts, minimal special tools, no *zzzZap!* danger or whirling mechanicals to rip off your arm. And as long as there's no water damage to the "studs" in the floor to repair, straightforward.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2016 11:01 PM (kdS6q)

72 (RepairClinic) also had helpful YouTube videos on how to do it.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at August 18, 2016 10:53 PM (J9FkY)

RepairClinic is truly phenomenal in this regard.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 18, 2016 11:01 PM (FnuZG)

73 51 If you're looking for a book on American soccer with a conservative slant, try Rory Miller's 100 Most Influential people in the history of American soccer.

It subtly lays to waist the misconception that soccer was built here by liberals. From Reagan to Kissinger to the conservative owners who lost hundreds of millions to get MLS off the ground, it's the only book to acknowledge this.
Posted by: Rory at August 18, 2016 10:56 PM (Wd0WT)

Lamar Hunt greatest Sportsman ever, Tennis, Football and Soccer, I am glad I got to met him Leaving Crew Stadium, he would thank people for coming and shake their hands.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (dKiJG)

74 The other DIY thing I can personally recommend is an automotive Data Reader. The thing you plug in to the analytical port under your dash, down by your legs.
90% of the time whenever your engine light comes on, it is a minor issue, like a cylinder mis firing one time. But the engine light stays on, so get one that has the ability to turn off the light on the dash.
They are pretty cheap.

Posted by: navybrat at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (w7KSn)

75 35
I have put in about 5 garbage disposals in my life, so I know I can
do it, but if I have the $ to pay someone else to do it for me, and why
should I have all the fun?



I can do a sink-monster in my sleep. Plumbing comes naturally to me.



I'm ok with electricity.



Carpentry is what really causes me to lose my shit, mostly because I measure twice and still fuck it up somehow.

Posted by: krakatoa at August 18, 2016 10:52 PM (RCS9o)


I proudly wear the title of Wood Butcher, and my preferred design style is nicknamed "Elefantes Bailandos".

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (EzgxV)

76 People have jobs to make a living. I believe in hiring people.

Oh I try the dyi projects. But they usually don't turn out to well.
Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 18, 2016 11:00 PM (voOPb)

I never really learned how to fix anything. I thought it was all boring, especially peering at a car engine. I read books.

So no matter how minor something is I try to do myself, it takes probably 4 times longer than someone with some knowledge. And I'm too old to start learning now, have too much other stuff I need to figure out.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (heN73)

77 One DIY project that looked easy to me was some concrete work. I was wrong.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (MNgU2)

78 Fun, yeah. I installed a garbage disposal by myself. Those fvckers are heavy and awkward.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 10:51 PM (obSfm)



What do you got, a Clarkman?

1.5 horse power and since I'm an 'ette ata bout 115, fucker was heavy to mount under the sink.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (obSfm)

79 Do they make top-loading washing machines big enough for sleeping bags?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (kP16F)

80 Toilets.

Yup. Simple. And pretty much the same since grandpa's day. Haven't yet been computerized, thank God.

Posted by: RKae at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (CYNno)

81 Teh last DIY project I tried was marriage.

Epic Fail.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:03 PM (WqEER)

82 Measure twice.
Cut once.
Swear, scream, blaspheme.
Go back to the lumber section of the home improvement store.
Start over.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:03 PM (0mRoj)

83 Toilets are a cinch.
I could do ten of them while still busting my a** on one garbage disposal.

Posted by: navybrat at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (w7KSn)

84 Hey everybody. :-)

I wish Home Depot had a "I don't know what the #&$@ I'm doing" section...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (OKox0)

85 I'm not a DIY guy at all. My wife always calls a handyman for all but the tiniest projects. I can do electrical stuff though and also for decades have fixed people's computers in exchange for them doing things that I would botch up if I tried.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (nvMvs)

86 A cable channel just ran an old fifties film noire movie with Humphrey Bogart.
Humphrey's character's name? Dick Steele!
And the movie wasn't even porn.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (+lVUW)

87 Wait, you have a pool INSIDE your house??

I thought only movie stars and NBA players had that kind of thing.

How much does this Ooen Blogger gig pay, anyway?

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (805dc)

88 I had thought at one point in my life I was done fixing crappy cars. I had a good job and could afford cars that were newer. Then my girls got old enough to drive and I was back on under cars swearing and bitching all over again.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 18, 2016 11:05 PM (CDowr)

89 I proudly wear the title of Wood Butcher, and my preferred design style is nicknamed "Elefantes Bailandos".
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (EzgxV)

Dancing elephants?

I don't get it.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:05 PM (0mRoj)

90 Posted by: Eisenhorn at August 18, 2016 10:53 PM (J9FkY)

Repair Clinic is a great site. Bought stuff for my dryer, lawnmower and weed eater there. Got the wrong part for lawnmower (my bad) abd they did the exchange with no hassle.

Posted by: tbodie at August 18, 2016 11:05 PM (Oy2Ew)

91 9:06 p.m.?

Is this the Tantric ONT?

Posted by: andycanuck at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (LdMbv)

92 One nice thing about screwing up a cut of wood is that there's always a use for scrap.

Posted by: Chupacabra at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (McglG)

93 Al Gore has an indoor pool, IIRC...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (kP16F)

94 81 Teh last DIY project I tried was marriage.

Epic Fail.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:03 PM (WqEER)

Hard to succeed when the other party engages in sabotage.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (0mRoj)

95 WikiLeak's lawyer just fell in front of a train.


From the last thread. Is this true?

Posted by: Bernette at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (3LwCF)

96 84 Hey everybody. :-)

I wish Home Depot had a "I don't know what the #&$@ I'm doing" section...
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (

That's the entire store until you can find the section with the part you are looking for.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (WqEER)

97 Brent (crude) now within a buck and change of it's 12 month high.

A good part of that is due to the dollar losing value in recent weeks. I'm not complaining though.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (nvMvs)

98 *Same here. It's simply ridiculous for me to spend hours struggling, screaming, and cursing, *

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: tbodie at August 18, 2016 11:07 PM (Oy2Ew)

99 87 Wait, you have a pool INSIDE your house??


He forgot to mention it was inflatable.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:07 PM (0mRoj)

100 83 Toilets are a cinch.
I could do ten of them while still busting my a** on one garbage disposal.
Posted by: navybrat at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (w7KSn)
-----------

With advice from the horde, my husband and I replaced our garbage disposal this spring.

Don't ask how many weeks it took though.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2016 11:07 PM (805dc)

101 50 My washing machine and dryer were both built in 1958. Installed in the basement by the previous owner. I "inherited" them whne I moved in a couple decades ago.
...
I think these were made just before the final triumph of planned obsolescence.
Posted by: zombie at August 18, 2016 10:55 PM (jBuUi)

We have a dishwasher like that-put in in 1980, when the previous owner remodeled the 1957 kitchen, and it's still working well today. Thirty six years is a pretty good run for an appliance. (It's a Kitchenaide, which had pretty much convinced me that that's the longest lived appliance out there. Our previous house had a 1980's Kitchenaide refrigerator that is still going. Hardy gear.)

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:07 PM (ezHMO)

102 ya dude, you car battery may not be in the engine compartment any more....

Posted by: Jake at August 18, 2016 11:07 PM (zPqbI)

103 All you need now is a car carousel like Mitt and you'll be on a gravy train with biscuit wheels.

Posted by: Chupacabra at August 18, 2016 11:07 PM (McglG)

104 91 9:06 p.m.?

Is this the Tantric ONT?
Posted by: andycanuck at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (LdMbv)

Check back in seven hours.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:08 PM (0mRoj)

105 I've done a bit of DIY around the house over the years although it was always a combination of hope and prayer. But I'm not flexible enough to work under the sink or at ground level anymore. Unless there are three strong men and a boy to help me up, it ain't happening.

Posted by: JTB at August 18, 2016 11:08 PM (V+03K)

106 A good part of that is due to the dollar losing value in recent weeks. I'm not complaining though.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at A

It's all good until the FAB confiscates your retirement or 401k- 'cause fairness.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 11:09 PM (obSfm)

107 good evening everyone
has anyone heard from chavez? how is he doing?

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:09 PM (uAvJJ)

108 RepairClinic FTW.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at August 18, 2016 11:09 PM (044Fx)

109 I had one of those 45 year old dryers that worked great, until it flipped its shit and turned into Christine.

And believe me, it's awesome shopping for a new one when your basement doorways are 24".

Posted by: Chupacabra at August 18, 2016 11:10 PM (McglG)

110 105 . Unless there are three strong men and a boy to help me up, it ain't happening.
Posted by: JTB at August 18, 2016 11:08 PM (V+03K)

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Harry Reid at August 18, 2016 11:11 PM (0mRoj)

111 Bing search for:

wikileaks lawyer dead +train

and there are a bunch of links (including a Daily Kos one!) about it.

I don't see any MSM sources reporting it yet.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 18, 2016 11:11 PM (LdMbv)

112 Posted by: Bernette at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (3LwCF)

I googled - and yeah, it's looks like it.

The Clintons= Murder, Inc.

And just watch the f'ing msm ignore it. Trump dick punched a baby!!!!!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:11 PM (P8951)

113 I'm afraid the hugo has joined the Choir Invisible, chemjeff...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 11:11 PM (kP16F)

114 Yeesh, the Focus. I drove one of those for a week as a "loaner" from the autoshop. I suppose it did get me from A to B but it didn't handle well.

a song for the Mercury Topaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQqDcjU_MRk

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 18, 2016 11:11 PM (6FqZa)

115
Indeed! And if the washer Krak is fixing is a front loader, and it sounds like it is, the best thing to do with it is take out into the woods, load it full of Tannerite, and shoot at it with a 30-06 until it goes Bang!. Then buy a decent top loader. I made the mistake, once, of buying a front-loader, and it gave me nothing but grief. Top-loaders are much more fault-tolerant.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2016 10:59 PM (oqkO3)

Sears has replaced the Drum of my Front loader twice it cost them 1,500 each time, I get the extended warranty. They could have just given me a new one and saved themselves a crapload of money, but noooo

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 18, 2016 11:11 PM (dKiJG)

116 A good part of that is due to the dollar losing value in recent weeks"

Ah ha. See, BREXIT does equal "bad"...

heh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 18, 2016 11:11 PM (C9pBZ)

117 We have a dishwasher like that-put in in 1980, when the previous owner remodeled the 1957 kitchen, and it's still working well today. Thirty six years is a pretty good run for an appliance. (It's a Kitchenaide, which had pretty much convinced me that that's the longest lived appliance out there. Our previous house had a 1980's Kitchenaide refrigerator that is still going. Hardy gear.)

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:07 PM (ezHMO)
----------

My parents have a fridge from the 70s in their basement, still going strong. Of course the lights blink and the house shudders when it kicks in, but it keeps going.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (805dc)

118 Ignored The Horde, he did!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (kP16F)

119 My biggest pet peeve on DIY projects: the assholes who make parts differ by maybe a millimeter, so when you're buying parts, you think they're the same, but later find out that they're just a smidgen larger or smaller.

Grrrrr.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (SRKgf)

120 107 good evening everyone
has anyone heard from chavez? how is he doing?
Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:09 PM (uAvJJ)

He posted earlier. He has a bladder infection. He'll be OK.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (P8951)

121 78
Fun, yeah. I installed a garbage disposal by myself. Those fvckers are heavy and awkward.


Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 10:51 PM (obSfm)





What do you got, a Clarkman?

1.5 horse power and since I'm an 'ette ata bout 115, fucker was heavy to mount under the sink.


Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (obSfm)


Hint: Save little 1-foot cutoffs of lumber from projects. When you have to reinstall a garbage disposal, build a little Jenga under it with your wood scraps -- if you're not trying to hold the goddamned thing up with one hand while you engage the locking ring, it's a lot less stressful.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (EzgxV)

122 Chavez posted last thread that it turned out to be a bladder infection.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (DW+jj)

123 >>>77 One DIY project that looked easy to me was some concrete work. I was wrong.

yes.
i am very thankful for concrete guy.
my wish list includes concrete countertops throughout,
and lots of stamp work outside.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (K5zCh)

124 Went to Trump rally tonight in Charlotte. Started off talking about the natural disaster in Louisiana . Says when one state hurts all states hurt.

When he talks I never get the vibe that he is just BSing .

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 18, 2016 11:13 PM (BS8yt)

125 84
Hey everybody. :-)



I wish Home Depot had a "I don't know what the #$@ I'm doing" section...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (OKox0)


They do. It's the whole store.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:13 PM (EzgxV)

126 I'm afraid the hugo has joined the Choir Invisible, chemjeff...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 11:11 PM (kP16F)


Our Moron Chavez the Hugo is doing OK. Bladder infection, and high blood pressure. A course of antibiotics, and he will be well soon.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2016 11:13 PM (oqkO3)

127 I saw Aliens in downtown Newark NJ. I went by myself and was the only white guy in the house. One of the best movie experiences in my life.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 18, 2016 11:14 PM (EZebt)

128 I got soapstone counters within the last year. I'd strongly suggest looking at those before going with anything else.

Posted by: Chupacabra at August 18, 2016 11:14 PM (McglG)

129 94 81 Teh last DIY project I tried was marriage.

Epic Fail.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:03 PM (WqEER)

Hard to succeed when the other party engages in sabotage.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:06 PM (

Tell me about it. Speaking of which, a guy I know recently spent a night in jail because his wife locked herself with his keys and their 5 year old in the bedroom because she did not agree with plans. He wanted to leave and take the child to go swimming. He got through and when he returned home from a day with the extended family, cops were there to arrest him and spent the night in jail. Because she told them he forced his way in.

So now he is out his house he paid for. Has a TPO and the wife is playing the victim claiming she did not want to press charges to make him feel guilty.

He did not do shit and even if found innocent that will follow him around forever. Fucking Bullshit!

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:14 PM (WqEER)

130 Replaced 3 Badger Garbage disposals in rental houses. Easiest thing in the world. One collar neck screw, 3 electrical connections, and one hose clamp for the output.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 18, 2016 11:14 PM (YLidQ)

131 I worked with the trim carpenter (my uncle) 1 day. He sent me in the attic to put some bridging between the ceiling joists to use as nailers for the kitchen cabinets. Yeah. I fell through the sheetrock. Went back to framing that afternoon. I was 14. This was 1963.

Posted by: Eromero at August 18, 2016 11:15 PM (zLDYs)

132 Julian Assange is not my favorite person - but I hope he's made it damn clear that he's got a Plan B lined up in case he has a sudden, "unforseen" accident.

If not, he's a dead man walking.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:15 PM (P8951)

133 Especially if they can make you a farmhouse sink out of the same slab.

Posted by: Chupacabra at August 18, 2016 11:15 PM (McglG)

134 Get ready for my next DIY project!

*wink*

Posted by: Hope Solo at August 18, 2016 11:16 PM (WqEER)

135 Old six cylinder Chevy cost about ten dollars and thirty minutes to change the plugs. F150 you can't touch yourself and cost about seven hundred dollars for coils and plugs. You must do this at about a hundred and twenty thousand.

Posted by: gNewt....panhandlers never seem to not have their hands out ~ at August 18, 2016 11:16 PM (tBswe)

136 Fun, yeah. I installed a garbage disposal by myself. Those fvckers are heavy and awkward.

Posted by: Infidel at August 18, 2016 10:51 PM (obSfm)



Pro tip: if necessary, use a car jack to lift the disposal, turn it to engage the locking ring, remove the car jack. Easy peasy.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:16 PM (SRKgf)

137 Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:14 PM (WqEER)

It's not an uncommon tactic. Plus, with the combined "white knight" tendencies of cops generally combined with primary aggressor statutes, it d

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:16 PM (0mRoj)

138 I have a Maytag Washer and Dryer. I have blown the circuit card in the dryer twice, the first time while it was still under warranty, and the washer once. Both at the same time about two years ago.

It turns out that a surge of power after a blackout can fry the circuit cards.

So, SOP at casa de Jimbo is open the circuit when not in use.

It's a good thing my circuit breaker panel is in the hallway.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at August 18, 2016 11:16 PM (4+VII)

139 84 Hey everybody. :-)

I wish Home Depot had a "I don't know what the #&$@ I'm doing" section...
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (OKox0)


LOL

Same for lowes, menards & fleet farm

Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 18, 2016 11:16 PM (voOPb)

140
Especially if they can make you a farmhouse sink out of the same slab.>>>

That would be a thick ass slab.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 18, 2016 11:17 PM (CDowr)

141 Yeah, I use those Badgers too.
The problem is the install, flat on your back, not much room to work, can't see around the back end, heavy, awkward, etc.
I know, bitch, bitch, bitch...

Posted by: navybrat at August 18, 2016 11:17 PM (w7KSn)

142 good evening everyone
has anyone heard from chavez? how is he doing?
Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:09 PM

Why are you asking that? Has he mentioned some problem?

Posted by: Farmer at August 18, 2016 11:17 PM (o/90i)

143 The hell? To continue, it doesn't take much to get a guy locked up for DV even if it's 100% bogus.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (0mRoj)

144 119 My biggest pet peeve on DIY projects: the assholes who make parts differ by maybe a millimeter, so when you're buying parts, you think they're the same, but later find out that they're just a smidgen larger or smaller.

Grrrrr.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (SRKgf)


Do you not own a hammer my friend?

Try a deadblow hammer. Non-marring, to minimize the evidence.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (FnuZG)

145 89
I proudly wear the title of Wood Butcher, and my preferred design style is nicknamed "Elefantes Bailandos".

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:02 PM (EzgxV)



Dancing elephants?



I don't get it.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:05 PM (0mRoj)


It's too bad I can't link pictures. I've got a little cage around my air conditioning compressor to keep it from getting bumped while we move carts around the garden.....you can also stand on it. I've got a little rack to keep our plastic pots on for plants we intend to give away. You could also stack sacks of concrete on it. I've got a tool rack for rakes, shovels, hoes, etc. -- it could probably support a ton. I decked our attic so we could use it for storage.....with 3/4 plywood. I tend to use 4x4s where others might put 1x2s....

If something is sufficiently massive, it doesn't have to be built particularly well.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (EzgxV)

146 MidAmeriCon II/Worldcon Report II:

No outrageous SJWisms encountered today. The natives seem very strange, and like to talk in hissy stage whispers while sitting behind me at panel sessions, and they have not yet mastered the mystical arts of microphone and speaker, but they have not shown any signs of overt hostility.

One snarky Trump comment today, and one invocation of the Name Of Trump, but that one gets a pass as it was in reference to how you shouldn't talk politics if you're trying to build your brand. Zero snarky Hillary comments, of course.

I received electronic signals from our own Political Hat, but the Sprint Lords declined to deliver them in a timely manner.

The expedition continues.

Posted by: filbert at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (s5o+q)

147 98 *Same here. It's simply ridiculous for me to spend hours struggling, screaming, and cursing, *

Trigglypuff got her hand inside of your pants?

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (gyKtp)

148 Okay, my replacement of a water heater pressure valve now seems tawdry. Still, it was cheap.

Got the vacuum leak in the car duct taped until the part is available.

I see you dishwasher! Don't make me gut you!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (FtrY1)

149 He forgot to mention it was inflatable.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:07 PM


Rumor has it he's dolled it up nicely.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (OF/aZ)

150 142 good evening everyone
has anyone heard from chavez? how is he doing?
Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:09 PM

Why are you asking that? Has he mentioned some problem?
Posted by: Farmer at August 18, 2016 11:17 PM (o/90i)

He bled out through his urethra.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:19 PM (0mRoj)

151 having a new home is a dream come true.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 18, 2016 10:55 PM (K5zCh)

That is terrific

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:19 PM (uAvJJ)

152 I used to think the Vince Foster stuff wasn't true. I now believe it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2016 11:19 PM (+lVUW)

153 When I first heard Ryan Lochtes Olympic robbery story I thought, honestly anything to steal the limelight from Phelps right? Then it turns out to be true! The lying drunk ahole who is way too old to be doing this shit, is now front center for being a lying ahole and not a robbery victim. But you know what? US being the US, he will parlay this into a reality show and will likely be a congressman in CA in the not too distant future! Maybe run for president someday.

Posted by: keena at August 18, 2016 11:20 PM (RiTnx)

154 So, I was checking the attic fan, the one that didn't work, when my foot slipped off of the joist and went through the ceiling and into the living room.

"Hello Dear!" I called out to my wife sitting below.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at August 18, 2016 11:20 PM (4+VII)

155 It's from April 23, 2016 I just noticed...

I've linked the original source in my sock that seems to be a MSM local news-site for Hampstead, UK. [BTW, a QC Queen's Counsel is a lawyer who is good enough to represent the Crown/government in court cases.] It's loading slowly on my p.c.; I don't know if because of traffic to the site or it has a ton of ads running on it. (I've got various adblockers.)

============
One of the UK's most respected international criminal lawyers who was representing Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has died after being hit by a train in West Hampstead.

Married father of two John Jones, QC, worked at renowned legal chambers, Doughty Street and died last Monday morning. Police say they are not treating the death as suspicious.

The 48-year-old barrister has been described as "a giant in his field" by colleagues, who said that his death is "a monumental loss to the cause of international justice and human rights."

Posted by: andycanuck at August 18, 2016 11:21 PM (LdMbv)

156 152 I used to think the Vince Foster stuff wasn't true. I now believe it.
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2016 11:19 PM (+lVUW)

We are living in House of Cards now. Seriously.

Posted by: keena at August 18, 2016 11:21 PM (RiTnx)

157 good evening everyone

has anyone heard from chavez? how is he doing?

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:09 PM


He posted an update in the am thread -- Bladder infection and HBP.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2016 11:22 PM (gyKtp)

158 YouTube is your friend, I like ChrisFixit and the PABST Boys for fixing cars. The PABST Boys are pretty funny.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 18, 2016 11:22 PM (dKiJG)

159 If something is sufficiently massive, it doesn't have to be built particularly well.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (EzgxV)

A bit like brutalist architecture, then?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:22 PM (0mRoj)

160
It's simply ridiculous for me to spend hours struggling, screaming....
Posted by: rickl



Hey, you think you've got it bad? I've got to walk out of here alone!

Posted by: Just the Punchline

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2016 11:22 PM (kdS6q)

161 We are living in House of Cards now. Seriously.

Or Game of Thrones.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 18, 2016 11:23 PM (6FqZa)

162 Well, my bil was scoped yesterday and his esophagus is raw and enflamed. I am praying my head off that that is the reason he's been coughing up blood.

The results of the biopsy will be in on Monday. I'm frightened. I'm hoping that the results will be OK and that they can tube feed him until he puts on more weight and is healthy again. But - 6'0" men don't get down to 92 lbs because nothing is wrong with them.

He's wearing boys clothes - men's sizes don't fit on him anymore.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:23 PM (P8951)

163 I really miss doing basic work on my car. I could do tune ups, replace a gasket, put in new filters, etc. VW beetles, a 1961 Mercury Comet (I REALLY miss that), a 71 Chevy truck. SIGH. Now I'm hard pressed to check the oil. F'ing government regulations and car makers!

Posted by: JTB at August 18, 2016 11:23 PM (V+03K)

164 Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:23 PM (P8951)

That's rough, Donna. I'm sorry.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:24 PM (0mRoj)

165 My best friend's dad does/did appliance repair. He's getting slowly out of it as more new appliances are being bought and used. He says more and more the number one prescription for a malfunctioning appliance is to replace the main board.....which as krak" said are hundreds of dollars apiece. If replacing the main board doesn't fix the problem, you can't then return them once they've been removed from the sealed packaging.

Well, since each maker, depending on year and model, could have their own entirely different board design you never know what you're walking into and as an independent he can't possibly afford to buy and inventory a large variety which may not ever get used.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:24 PM (G9xtI)

166 Hey, is that leaking five year old HVAC system a Rheem, perchance?

If it is, do a search for Rheem Class-Action Lawsuit.

You'll be glad you did.

Posted by: J. Wilde at August 18, 2016 11:24 PM (ii843)

167 137 Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:14 PM (WqEER)

It's not an uncommon tactic. Plus, with the combined "white knight" tendencies of cops generally combined with primary aggressor statutes, it d
Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:16 PM (0mRoj

I'm aware. But that's the thing is that men are not aware until they spring the trap that has taken months to years for them to set. By the time one does the research it is too late.

Then men/fathers cannot form interest groups to lobby for fair treatment and/or speak out against the double standards destroying the lives of children and fathers because the courts will take away their children.

It's really sad that men actually do more damage than the crazy ones because of the white knight element.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:24 PM (WqEER)

168 163 I really miss doing basic work on my car. I could do tune ups, replace a gasket, put in new filters, etc. VW beetles, a 1961 Mercury Comet (I REALLY miss that), a 71 Chevy truck. SIGH. Now I'm hard pressed to check the oil. F'ing government regulations and car makers!
Posted by: JTB at August 18, 2016 11:23 PM (V+03K)

It is a royal pain in the ass now. Even changing an air filter is a cramped, complicated procedure.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:25 PM (0mRoj)

169
He posted earlier. He has a bladder infection. He'll be OK.

Posted by: DonnaV (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (P8951)

oh that is a relief
Why are you asking that? Has he mentioned some problem?



Posted by: Farmer at August 18, 2016 11:17 PM (o/90i)

he mentioned last night that he was pissing blood. not healthy.

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:25 PM (uAvJJ)

170 and my DIY projects turn out about as well as my cooking. so, I tend to pay professionals.

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:25 PM (uAvJJ)

171 Do you not own a hammer my friend?

Try a deadblow hammer. Non-marring, to minimize the evidence.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (FnuZG)


My favorite: the asshole who owned Chez Merde before us used two different size fittings on a faucet. One was 3/8" and the other 1/4". I'm underneath the sink, upside down, putting on braided steel connections. One goes on, no problem. The other one is a bitch, with fluent and creative Anglo-Saxon accompanying my unsuccessful efforts to thread it. Finally I switch the two, and realize that the problem is that the fittings for the hot and cold sides are not the same size.

More Anglo-Saxon while I go to the store to make the fittings the same size, after which no problem.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:25 PM (SRKgf)

172 I'll take computer advice from cooth, but I'm not letting him anywhere near my bonfire! Horizontal shear and all that...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 11:26 PM (kP16F)

173
Married father of two John Jones, QC, worked at Police say they are not treating the death as suspicious.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 18, 2016 11:21 PM (LdMbv)

Oh yeah. People just kinda get hit by trains all the time.

Amazing all these weird accidents that happen to people who cross the Clintons in some way.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:26 PM (P8951)

174 Michael the TEXIT Hobbit, I sure wish you were closer than Texas! I decided to perform some difficult DIY computer repair this week, i.e. changing a laptop battery. Got the battery only to discover I have this *^% Asus that requires you take off the entire back, then pry up the entire front, and disconnect three ribbon connectors. To change the battery. Do I have the tools or the patience or the skill for that mess? I do not. Who in the world thought that was a good design?

Posted by: Miss Sippi at August 18, 2016 11:26 PM (ByoS/)

175 Those magnesium VW blocks were so soft if one wasn't careful while installing exhaust manifold/muffler he could just tap right through the side wall. Yes he could.

Posted by: gNewt....panhandlers never seem to not have their hands out ~ at August 18, 2016 11:26 PM (tBswe)

176 Things I can fix on my own car (2001 Ford Escape)
Change the battery, change the air filter, refresh the wiper fluid, change out the wiper blades, top off the radiator or oil, turn off the dash warning lights, change out the headlights and turn signals.
After that, hello mechanic.

Posted by: navybrat at August 18, 2016 11:27 PM (w7KSn)

177
I wish Home Depot had a "I don't know what the #$@ I'm doing" section...
Posted by: qdpsteve



End of Aisle 5. Right behind the Lesbians arguing over which color tiles to buy for the kitchen sink back-splash.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2016 11:27 PM (kdS6q)

178 Donna I am so sorry

best wishes for your bil

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:27 PM (uAvJJ)

179 159
If something is sufficiently massive, it doesn't have to be built particularly well.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (EzgxV)



A bit like brutalist architecture, then?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:22 PM (0mRoj)


A lot like brutalist architecture, but somehow it seems more cheery when made out of wood instead of concrete.....and made to persevere instead of offend.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:27 PM (EzgxV)

180 OMG. There's going to be a Chappaquiddick movie, shooting starts after Labor Day, and no less than hyperliberal Jeffrey Wells says it pulls no punches (he's read the final draft script). Here's the link for anyone who wants to read about it:

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2016/08/the-sorrow-and-the-pity/

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:27 PM (OKox0)

181 Same shit. Different day.

Or were you not talking about me?

Sorry. Coffee-break over now. Back to standing on my head.

Posted by: zombie hugo chavez at August 18, 2016 11:27 PM (LdMbv)

182 It's really sad that men actually do more damage than the crazy ones because of the white knight element.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:24 PM (WqEER)

Ayup. Case in point: VAWA.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:28 PM (0mRoj)

183
My parents have a fridge from the 70s in their basement, still going strong. Of course the lights blink and the house shudders when it kicks in, but it keeps going.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (805dc)

Lol, I bet that's a bit jarring at night! How are you doing?

Would appreciate prayers for my kid-she's got severely low blood pressure, anemia and has started blacking out. Massive tests today, and waiting for the results.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (ezHMO)

184 He's wearing boys clothes - men's sizes don't fit on him anymore.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:23 PM

Prayers up for him Donna.
T

Posted by: Farmer at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (o/90i)

185
no less than hyperliberal Jeffrey Wells says it pulls no punches
--------------------

What does that mean coming from a liberal?

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (5o5ek)

186 Thanks, Insomniac and chemjeff.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (P8951)

187 considering i tend to disagree with you chemjeff, your "terrific" comment was very nice. thanks.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (K5zCh)

188 LOLs to Cactus, Laurie, cthulhu and Mis. Hum. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (OKox0)

189 185
no less than hyperliberal Jeffrey Wells says it pulls no punches
--------------------

What does that mean coming from a liberal?
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (5o5ek)

Mary Jo's exposed for the opportunistic, conniving slut she really was.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:30 PM (0mRoj)

190 Thanks, Farmer.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:30 PM (P8951)

191 iforgot, good point. Still, I'm shocked a project about Chappaquiddick ever even got greenlit by a Hollywood studio.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:30 PM (OKox0)

192 162 Well, my bil was scoped yesterday and his esophagus is raw and enflamed. I am praying my head off that that is the reason he's been coughing up blood.

The results of the biopsy will be in on Monday. I'm frightened. I'm hoping that the results will be OK and that they can tube feed him until he puts on more weight and is healthy again. But - 6'0" men don't get down to 92 lbs because nothing is wrong with them.

He's wearing boys clothes - men's sizes don't fit on him anymore.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:23 PM (P8951)

Oh my gosh, Donna, I am so sorry. Prayers for him and you.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:30 PM (ezHMO)

193 After 50 years of home ownership and doing DIY from day one - things 've learned: Blood renews by itself; Band-Aid brand is the best; Neosporin (the big tube) is a must. Order 10% more of everything and NEVER wallpaper with your "other". Keep your tetanus shot up to date and if sweat soldering water pipes above your head - DON'T LET HOT SOLDER DRIP INTO YOUR NOSTRILS.

Posted by: oldgeezer at August 18, 2016 11:31 PM (kS5kg)

194 {{Moki}}. Good luck

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 18, 2016 11:31 PM (6FqZa)

195 I just gave away a 1968 Frigidaire Freezer that was still going strong. Just ran out of places to put it.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2016 11:31 PM (/hxGw)

196 171
Do you not own a hammer my friend?



Try a deadblow hammer. Non-marring, to minimize the evidence.



Posted by: TexasDan at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (FnuZG)



My favorite: the asshole who owned Chez Merde before us used two
different size fittings on a faucet. One was 3/8" and the other 1/4".
I'm underneath the sink, upside down, putting on braided steel
connections. One goes on, no problem. The other one is a bitch, with
fluent and creative Anglo-Saxon accompanying my unsuccessful efforts to
thread it. Finally I switch the two, and realize that the problem is
that the fittings for the hot and cold sides are not the same size.



More Anglo-Saxon while I go to the store to make the fittings the same size, after which no problem.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:25 PM (SRKgf)


Ha-ha!!! Yes, I've seen that -- it may have been a "thing" for about two weeks in 1955, 'cause we've got it in our house, too.
And, BTW, if one gets a dead-blow hammer from Harbor Freight (NTTAWWT), it will eventually fail and dump all its lead shot on the floor -- probably at an extremely inconvenient time. Just be aware, and never use it in a position where this will be a huge problem.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:31 PM (EzgxV)

197 {{{boulder terlit hobo}}}

Thanks. I admit, I'm scared.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:32 PM (ezHMO)

198 One stoopid commenter at Hollywood Elsewhere floats the idea she's read that Mary Jo Kopechne was actually in the back seat, and when Ted and "Cricket" (his actual squeeze of the time) took off in the car, they had no idea Mary Jo was back there.

So in other words, it was all a giant misunderstanding. Whee!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:32 PM (OKox0)

199 My favorite: the asshole who owned Chez Merde before us used two different size fittings on a faucet. One was 3/8" and the other 1/4". I'm underneath the sink, upside down, putting on braided steel connections. One goes on, no problem. The other one is a bitch, with fluent and creative Anglo-Saxon accompanying my unsuccessful efforts to thread it. Finally I switch the two, and realize that the problem is that the fittings for the hot and cold sides are not the same size.

More Anglo-Saxon while I go to the store to make the fittings the same size, after which no problem.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:25 PM (SRKgf)


Wheee! I lived in Indonesia for a few years. I bought about 15 of every fitting I needed, because it was always a game of luck getting a decent fit even when the fittings were theoretically the same size.

My favorite so far is the house I bought which had been owned by an electrical engineer, who thought, I gather, that he had special powers over electricity.

He had a heater mat rigged up under the entry carpet which pulled power from the furnace, such that every time the furnace came on, the heater mat got juice. The wire snaked into the return vent where I kid you not he had literally used a campbell's soup can as a junction box.

Which is better than the taped-together wires spliced in the attic, laying in the blown-in insulation.

The crown jewel was the rheostat he added to a ceiling fan to control the fan speed. You need another switch leg for that, but he didn't want to pull wire. So he used the ground wire for a switch leg. I found this out by grabbing it, of course, because why would the ground wire be hot?

Posted by: TexasDan at August 18, 2016 11:32 PM (FnuZG)

200 162 Well, my bil was scoped yesterday and his esophagus is raw and enflamed. I am praying my head off that that is the reason he's been coughing up blood.

The results of the biopsy will be in on Monday. I'm frightened. I'm hoping that the results will be OK and that they can tube feed him until he puts on more weight and is healthy again. But - 6'0" men don't get down to 92 lbs because nothing is wrong with them.

He's wearing boys clothes - men's sizes don't fit on him anymore.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:23 PM (P8951)

You are in my prayers.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 18, 2016 11:32 PM (dKiJG)

201 182 It's really sad that men actually do more damage than the crazy ones because of the white knight element.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:24 PM (WqEER)

Ayup. Case in point: VAWA.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:28 PM (0mRoj

A dirty secret that lawyers hide is that the VAWA act applies to men if they site it in court. At least in my state and even has it on a .gov site reminding men of their rights.

Guess what? Lawyers never site it and laugh at you if you ask them to with proof.

SMFH

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:32 PM (WqEER)

202 Donna, OMG. Prayers up.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:33 PM (OKox0)

203 I've love if Columbo could get after HillyBilly. And set one of his clever traps. If I had a magic wand, that's what I'd make come true.

After some other little wishes, of course. I'm sure you can guess what those might involve.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:33 PM (DW+jj)

204 92 and 6' is... not good. Good luck, Donna

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 18, 2016 11:33 PM (6FqZa)

205 "I just gave away a 1968 Frigidaire Freezer that was still going strong. "



That's practically a classic.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:34 PM (G9xtI)

206 Would appreciate prayers for my kid-she's got severely low blood pressure, anemia and has started blacking out. Massive tests today, and waiting for the results.
Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (ezHMO)

Oh man. Hang in there Moki. Health stuff with your kids is scary shit. Been there and done that a couple of times.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:34 PM (0mRoj)

207
Toilets are a cinch. I could do ten of them while still busting my a** on one garbage disposal.
Posted by: navybrat



Toilet: Gravity is your friend and works with you to seal the wax gasket and affix the unit to the floor.

Disposal: Gravity hates you and wants cause leaks, rip the unit off the bottom of the sink and drop it on your face.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2016 11:34 PM (kdS6q)

208 183


My parents have a fridge from the 70s in their basement, still going
strong. Of course the lights blink and the house shudders when it kicks
in, but it keeps going.



Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2016 11:12 PM (805dc)



Lol, I bet that's a bit jarring at night! How are you doing?



Would appreciate prayers for my kid-she's got severely low blood
pressure, anemia and has started blacking out. Massive tests today, and
waiting for the results.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (ezHMO)


How severely low? In college, my resting blood seep was 95/60 -- it really didn't get any higher until I began my career in accounting.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:34 PM (EzgxV)

209 After that ordeal with my mother, I can empathize with you Donna. I wish I had something good to say, but all I can say is I empathize.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:35 PM (DW+jj)

210 Cactus, yup. Men have to find lawyers who are empathetic to the men's rights movement, basically.

There's not many of them, but they are out there.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:35 PM (OKox0)

211 Posted by: concrete girl at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (K5zCh)

you are quite welcome. I hope you enjoy your house. it can be a pain but it also feels great to have a place that is actually yours.

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:35 PM (uAvJJ)

212 Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/766316417599680512

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Posted by: kbdabear at August 18, 2016 11:35 PM (GrXXa)

213 Ceiling legs are watching you masturbate.

Posted by: eleven at August 18, 2016 11:35 PM (qUNWi)

214 Malena Morgan has some incredible tasteful DIY work online.

You are welcome

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:35 PM (WqEER)

215 Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (ezHMO)

Moki, is this your daughter who is studying biology? That is so awful I am so sorry

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:36 PM (uAvJJ)

216 More Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/766317012024893441

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Posted by: kbdabear at August 18, 2016 11:36 PM (GrXXa)

217 We have a couple 1950s propane fridges up at my family's cabin that are still running strong. I'm sure it helps that they only get used 6 months a year. But buying new is very expensive so the main one has a rubber truck hood latch that replaced the broken original.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 18, 2016 11:36 PM (CDowr)

218 Gravity is indeed the friend of toilets and elimination functions in general.

NASA has spent no telling how much trying to design a decent zero-g toilet.

Just imagine diarrhea in zero-g.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:37 PM (DW+jj)

219 208-cthulhu, her standing heart rate this morning was 60/45. She's normally around 100/60, but it's been lower. The anemia, fever and blacking out are what is giving us pause. She's already been through kidney reconstruction, and I am praying that's going strong. None of the rest of us can donate to her. She'd have to go on a waiting list.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:37 PM (ezHMO)

220
Show-off easy repair:

Fix a leaky faucet by flipping the washer on the stem. To use when females are about or you don't have that size washer in your kit/don't want to do a Home Depot run.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2016 11:37 PM (kdS6q)

221 Even More Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/766317620702228480

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Posted by: kbdabear at August 18, 2016 11:38 PM (GrXXa)

222 218 Gravity is indeed the friend of toilets and elimination functions in general.

NASA has spent no telling how much trying to design a decent zero-g toilet.

Just imagine diarrhea in zero-g.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:37 PM (DW+jj)

A nice brown sphere. Like a coconut.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:38 PM (0mRoj)

223 >>>193...and if sweat soldering water pipes above your head - DON'T LET HOT SOLDER DRIP INTO YOUR NOSTRILS.
Posted by: oldgeezer at August 18, 2016 11:31 PM

omg, did this really happen?!!

Posted by: concrete girl at August 18, 2016 11:38 PM (K5zCh)

224 >> Malena Morgan has some incredible tasteful DIY work online.


She's "retired" now, isn't she? IIRC, she was incredibly high maintenance. She was a hottie, though.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:38 PM (DW+jj)

225 Sorry to hear, donna v.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:39 PM (G9xtI)

226
Moki, is this your daughter who is studying biology? That is so awful I am so sorry
Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:36 PM (uAvJJ)

Yep-except she added organic chemistry as a major as well. She loves it. You and Boulder and Peaches were some of my stalwarts praying her through before-I can never thank you enough for that. And I'm so sorry to have to ask for more.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:40 PM (ezHMO)

227 RE: that controller board off ebay...

Our appliance repair guy (motto: "For when you really have no clue how to even begin") recommends buy them instead of the brand new factory version. There are outfits that rebuild/rehab blown boards, and their re-dos are pretty reliable. Another plus is that if your appliance is more than 10 years old, they probably don't even make that controller board anymore.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at August 18, 2016 11:41 PM (o7l6R)

228 We have a couple 1950s propane fridges up at my family's cabin that are still running strong. I'm sure it helps that they only get used 6 months a year. But buying new is very expensive so the main one has a rubber truck hood latch that replaced the broken original.

Willy J if those are Servels be da,n careful of the CO2 potential

Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 18, 2016 11:41 PM (voOPb)

229 The crown jewel was the rheostat he added to a ceiling fan to control the fan speed. You need another switch leg for that, but he didn't want to pull wire. So he used the ground wire for a switch leg. I found this out by grabbing it, of course, because why would the ground wire be hot?

Posted by: TexasDan at August 18, 2016 11:32 PM (FnuZG)



While I'm tracing an electrical problem at Chez Merde I take a panel cover off. A bare copper wire is staring me in the face. I assume it's a leftover and not connected, but years in research had taught me to check and not assume anything, so I slap a voltmeter on it. Turns out, it's hot.

It was only an inch from the cover plate. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:41 PM (SRKgf)

230 DIY.....yeah, I'm in the middle of that. Gotta install new sheetrock on three of the walls in the master bedroom.

'Cause I'd had to tear 'em out, to get to the termite-riddled wood beneath.

Successfully killed the bugs a few weeks ago, but am going around looking for, and finding damage of their former presence. And undertaking repairs thereto.

So, I've used pressure treated lumber instead of ordinary, cheap pine studs, which requires that I rip about 1/64th or so from one narrow side of the stud, so it'll be the same dimension as the damaged and destroyed original studs. This'll let the new sheetrock lay flat and true.

Taping and floating non-tapered joints in sheetrock, in such a manner as to be unnoticed and undetectable seams under the texture and paint, is a boring, monotonous, repetitive and ultimately filthy, dusty and annoying pain the ass, too.

I've got every stick of furniture from the master bedroom divided between the other two bedrooms, and am sleeping on the sofa while I get this done.

Fortunately, I'm a temporary bachelor while doing all this, as herself is overseas, tending to her ailing mom in Belfast.

Now all I've gotta do is get it done before her return.

But, I can do the work. And thankful of it, otherwise this would be somewhere between a $5k and $10k repair bill. But, I'll have it done for less than $200 in materials, not counting two gallons of a paint, as of yet undecided tone.

But, all in all. I truly look forward to when the day comes that I can return to life aboard a sailboat. In my experience, they're less work to maintain than a house, and in that, I'm truly not kidding, not even a little.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2016 11:41 PM (v5iqM)

231 MG. There's going to be a Chappaquiddick movie, shooting starts after Labor Day, and no less than hyperliberal Jeffrey Wells says it pulls no punches (he's read the final draft script).

Interesting. I wonder how they will know what the dialogue was during the 9 hours that the cowardly, drunk Teddy, hid out with his pals and left the girl to drown.
Oops. I referred to the victim as a "girl". That will upset the SJW's more than the fact that their abortion loving hero left her under water for 9 hours without reporting the accident.

Question: Did Teddy leave her in the water for 9 hours because she didn't want to get nailed for drunk driving? Or did he let her drown because she "knew something"?

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2016 11:41 PM (+lVUW)

232 And just watch the f'ing msm ignore it. Trump dick punched a baby!!!!!
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:11 PM (P8951)

He was hung. It punched back. Definitely a Republican.

Posted by: The Donald at August 18, 2016 11:42 PM (960oq)

233 Diarrhea in zero-g? That would be like the Kessel Runs in 12 parsecs, yes!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 11:42 PM (kP16F)

234 "We have a couple 1950s propane fridges up at my family's cabin that are still running strong."




Can you even but a new propane refridgerater anymore?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:42 PM (G9xtI)

235 In one of the Apollo transcripts, I think it was Apollo 16, but I'm not sure, there was a humorous episode that is recorded amongst the three astronauts.

The "toilet" facilities consisted of basically a plastic bag. Well, someone had a little accident and there was a turn floating in the capsule.

They all denied it was their own. Someone was lying, of course.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:42 PM (DW+jj)

236 So - today I had to pick up a print job that was sent to an outside company - a small business located on a busy street with lots of small businesses and restaurants. Stupidly, I left the Post-It with the exact address on it on my desk, but I'm kinda familiar with the neighborhood so I figured I'd just drive slow and I'd see it. I went up and down a 6 block area twice, looking hard, before I saw it. I knew I must have been pissing off the people behind me because I was driving slow - but what else can you do when you are looking for a business? You have to drive slow. I finally spotted a little dinky sign - the printing place is in the basement of what used to be a church and is now a hair salon/spa.

I parked my car 2 blocks away, picked up my order and when I got back to my car, there was a cop car idling behind it and he walked up to me and told me someone had reported me for driving "erratically." I said, "I wasn't driving erratically, I was driving slowly because I was trying to find a business." He took my license and I sat in my car for 15 minutes while he did a back ground check. (My last speeding ticket was 25 years ago.)

He gave it back to me, finally and thank God, didn't ticket me. I don't blame the cop - he has to check out these things. It's annoying that some asshat behind me was so pissed off he called the friggin' cops on me. sheesh, I can be irritated when I'm stuck behind someone who is going too slow, but I don't think, "I'm gonna report this person!!"

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:43 PM (P8951)

237 224 >> Malena Morgan has some incredible tasteful DIY work online.


She's "retired" now, isn't she? IIRC, she was incredibly high maintenance. She was a hottie, though.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:38 PM (DW+

I don't know about the backstory. She is a freaking firecracker. She does yoga videos. She is sexy as hell. Goes off like the 4th of July. Perfect Vulva.

Talks like a retard but nobody is perfect

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:43 PM (WqEER)

238 Just imagine diarrhea in zero-g.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:37 PM (DW+jj)


Extra thrust.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:43 PM (SRKgf)

239 Donna and Moki, prayers for both of you.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2016 11:43 PM (+lVUW)

240 Then I decide to push my luck since its already partially disassembled, and figure I'll put on the nice door boot we ordered a couple months ago since the current one is pretty dirty.

How hard could that be, right?

Pretty got-damned impossible if you don't have a set of locking pliers, that's how hard.


Trying to pull that spring over the hook? Locking pliers won't do it, either. I sliced my knuckle to the bone when the pliers slipped off.

Turns out a simple phillips screwdriver will do the trick. Slip it through the ring and rest the tip on the other end hook, lever it up and the ring will slip right on easy-peasy.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2016 11:45 PM (0KfYo)

241 "But, all in all. I truly look forward to when the day comes that I can return to life aboard a sailboat. In my experience, they're less work to maintain than a house, and in that, I'm truly not kidding, not even a little. "



Now that's a bold statement.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:45 PM (G9xtI)

242 nerdygirl, hmm. Wells does say the script contains some made-up scenes to hopefully help explain things.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:45 PM (OKox0)

243 So there's turds in space?

Do space turds freeze then boil then freeze then boil?.....

Posted by: eleven at August 18, 2016 11:45 PM (qUNWi)

244 Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:37 PM (ezHMO)

That's so awful! Prayers for her and you.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:45 PM (P8951)

245 Willy J if those are Servels be da,n careful of the CO2 potential>>>

Not sure if they are but the the cabin is so leaky air wise I can't imagine it's a problem. Also no one sleeps in that building. But thank you for the warning since they have always been there since I was a kid and I would have never thought to check. Probably worth a detector just to be safe.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 18, 2016 11:45 PM (CDowr)

246 219
208-cthulhu, her standing heart rate this morning was 60/45. She's
normally around 100/60, but it's been lower. The anemia, fever and
blacking out are what is giving us pause. She's already been through
kidney reconstruction, and I am praying that's going strong. None of the
rest of us can donate to her. She'd have to go on a waiting list.

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:37 PM (ezHMO)


Oof. Yeah, that's low. As I said, 100/60 doesn't scare me much, 'cause I did that.

Now for a random thought. My BP is now high -- and at one point I was taking hydrochlorothiazide to combat that. It's a diuretic. The idea is that you pee out water and salt, your blood volume decreases, and your blood pressure goes down. Could you maybe use the same effect in reverse -- i.e. have her down a few mineral waters and/or gatorades -- so that her blood volume goes up?

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:46 PM (EzgxV)

247 I miss the sense of satisfaction from doing a house or car repair or building something. When you have little ability, each success is a minor triumph. I can still get that satisfaction when tying fishing flies (not important but fun) and especially hand loading ammo and maintaining firearms.

Posted by: JTB at August 18, 2016 11:46 PM (V+03K)

248 Well, since each maker, depending on year and model, could have their own entirely different board design you never know what you're walking into and as an independent he can't possibly afford to buy and inventory a large variety which may not ever get used.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:24 PM (G9xtI)


Precisely. And the circuit boards are all but impervious to normal troubleshooting techniques. At least with automobiles, they all have to be OBDII compliant, which means that one $39 code reader can read trouble codes from all makes of car. There is no such standard with appliances.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2016 11:46 PM (oqkO3)

249 What does that mean coming from a liberal?
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 18, 2016 11:29 PM (5o5ek)

Mary Jo's exposed for the opportunistic, conniving slut she really was.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:30 PM (0mRoj)


So, Hillary wrote the script?

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2016 11:46 PM (+lVUW)

250 nerdygirl, LOL.

I admit there's no script or movie that could be made, that could fully express what a loathesome piece of shit Teddy was.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:47 PM (OKox0)

251 So which tool is the most useful:

1) cordless drill

2) reciprocating saw

3) impact driver

4) oscillating saw

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:47 PM (SRKgf)

252 Disposal: Gravity hates you and wants cause leaks, rip the unit off the bottom of the sink and drop it on your face.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2016 11:34 PM (kdS6q)

Boobs: Gravity hates you.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:48 PM (P8951)

253 So which tool is the most useful:
1) cordless drill
2) reciprocating saw
3) impact driver
4) oscillating saw
Posted by: Jay Guevara


5) Functional credit card

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:48 PM (OKox0)

254 After my last failed DIY project, I was thinking about becoming a hobo riding the trains and maybe writing about it with photographs for an update of the 21st century.

After looking into it, I discovered the young people and invaders have ruined it. It's not what it used to be in the glory days.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 18, 2016 11:49 PM (WqEER)

255 230
So, I've used pressure treated lumber instead of ordinary, cheap
pine studs, which requires that I rip about 1/64th or so from one narrow
side of the stud, so it'll be the same dimension as the damaged and
destroyed original studs. This'll let the new sheetrock lay flat and
true.






Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2016 11:41 PM (v5iqM)


Isn't that what they make planers for?

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:49 PM (EzgxV)

256 Can you even but a new propane refridgerater anymore?>>>

Yes and not just little RV ones.

http://propanerefrigerator.us/dometic-propane-refrigerator.html

Posted by: Willy J. at August 18, 2016 11:49 PM (CDowr)

257 36 My LG Washer stopped working and I replaced the "main board" myself. The outfit I bought the part from (RepairClinic) also had helpful YouTube videos on how to do it.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at August 18, 2016 10:53 PM (J9FkY)


Those guys are great. Pictures, diagrams, and videos. Decent prices, too.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 18, 2016 11:49 PM (0KfYo)

258 and when Ted and "Cricket" (his actual squeeze of the time) took off in the car, they had no idea Mary Jo was back there.

So the story will be that Teddy only had one tramp, oops, I mean girlfriend?
No one's going to buy that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2016 11:50 PM (+lVUW)

259 Now for a random thought. My BP is now high -- and at one point I was taking hydrochlorothiazide to combat that. It's a diuretic. The idea is that you pee out water and salt, your blood volume decreases, and your blood pressure goes down. Could you maybe use the same effect in reverse -- i.e. have her down a few mineral waters and/or gatorades -- so that her blood volume goes up?
Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:46 PM (EzgxV)

That's exactly what the doc is having her do until we get the results back, and know exactly what we need to do. Good call!

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:50 PM (ezHMO)

260 Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:47 PM (SRKgf)

I bought a vacillating saw once but it could never give me a straight line.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:50 PM (0mRoj)

261 Evening horde. Long time no see on the ONT.

*scrollin up

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at August 18, 2016 11:50 PM (hlMPp)

262 195 I just gave away a 1968 Frigidaire Freezer that was still going strong. Just ran out of places to put it.
Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2016 11:31 PM (/hxGw)


Dad has a 1957 Frigidaire top freezer in the basement. Still running in 2006. Still is, I believe, but I refuse to step foot in Cook fucking County ever, ever again.

Sorry, folks.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 18, 2016 11:50 PM (72N6L)

263 @248, AOP

On many household appliances, the digital ones have troubleshooting codes that flash when you do a special button-press combination... It is pain, though!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 11:51 PM (kP16F)

264 nerdygirl, that stupid theory was what one commenter at the original blog post was floating.

No mention of whatever crazy theory the actual script will float to try and excuse Teddy.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:51 PM (OKox0)

265
Question: Did Teddy leave her in the water for 9 hours because she didn't want to get nailed for drunk driving? Or did he let her drown because she "knew something"?
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2016 11:41 PM (+lVUW)
------------------

Djever hear that joke about Teddy Kennedy's handlers talking to him?

"Uh, Senator, Mary Jo is pregnant. What would you like to do about that?"

"We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 18, 2016 11:51 PM (5o5ek)

266 Pedialyte...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 18, 2016 11:51 PM (kP16F)

267 Night all, thanks for the prayers, and DIY tips-the Horde is awesome!

Posted by: Moki at August 18, 2016 11:52 PM (ezHMO)

268 IIRC, on the Shuttle (and what they do on the ISS I'm not sure, but likely the same) is freeze dry turds, by exposure to vacuum. The dried shit was returned to earth. Urine was just dumped, I think.

I don't know what the big deal about not just dumping the shit was.

Anyway, for the womyn astronauts they had to design a special thing for them to pee. The men just peed in a funnel, with suction. But with women, that suction might clamp down on 'em, and cause problems, so they had to put air holes in or something.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:52 PM (DW+jj)

269 Can you even but a new propane refridgerater anymore?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:42 PM (G9xtI)

Sure.
http://www.warehouseappliance.com/

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 18, 2016 11:52 PM (P/kVC)

270 I'm back on line after about a two-week unplanned Internet vacation -- my wifi hotspot's battery decided to become about twice its normal size, and I was afraid to use it. Had a horrid time trying to replace it, as no one carries hotspot batteries locally, and the first place I ordered from still has it on back-order. But the second place got it to me in four days (!) with free shipping, so I'm back on.

Though that may not be a totally good thing -- I had two weeks of only very spotty news, which did help my mood.

Not my writing, though, since I use the 'net for research, so I guess it was kind of a wash.

Posted by: Empire1 at August 18, 2016 11:52 PM (5WTFJ)

271 Just had an idea:

Anyone here ever troll Hillary supporters, or worshippers of some liberal politician, in real life? I just realized, it would be easy for at least some of them.

So you're at a restaurant with your friend and her moronic Hillary-supporting girlfriend. Is she eating meat? Tell her Hillary just came out in favor of vegan diets and that she won't eat meat anymore. Watch her suddently decide to push aside her expensive cut of beef.

Is she drinking iced tea? Tell her Hillary just announced that tea millers are some of the worse violators of "Fair Trade" agreements. Watch her order some water to drink instead.

Am thinking this could be fun in the future...

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:57 PM (OKox0)

272 well good night all
sweet dreams
and prayers to all of our hurting morons and their families


Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2016 11:57 PM (uAvJJ)

273 Good story krakatoa. Liked it and missed the books 2 days ago. Downloaded em just now.

Posted by: NJRob at August 18, 2016 11:58 PM (o1h4V)

274
*smacks ISP with dead-blow hammer*

Maybe this will work...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2016 11:58 PM (OLNwX)

275
I had two weeks of only very spotty news, which did help my mood.
-----------------

I've put myself on a low-news diet and I feel a wee tad lobotomized. It's odd being in this zone with all the cheery lofovos who get the news from Facebook and think it would be nice if everything was free. FREE!

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 18, 2016 11:58 PM (5o5ek)

276 "http://www.warehouseappliance.com/"

"http://propanerefrigerator.us/dometic-propane-refrigerator.html"



*saves links......makes notes*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:59 PM (G9xtI)

277 It's reported that Allahpundit = Josh Barro???


So DNC runs Hot Air?


Is this true? Did Ace know?

Posted by: Fiftytwo at August 18, 2016 11:59 PM (UaYoL)

278 274
*smacks ISP with dead-blow hammer*

Maybe this will work...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2016 11:58 PM (OLNwX)

Er, that's not exactly what they mean when they talk about brute force hacking.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2016 11:59 PM (0mRoj)

279 Isn't that what they make planers for?

Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:49 PM (EzgxV)Isn't that what they make planers for?



Cooth, I set up the fence on the table saw, and was able to make repetitive cuts on about fifteen full and partial studs, in less time than it would've taken to even get the planer off of it's rack on the wall, set up it's stand, adjust for that on-edge feed of the studs, and then need a 2nd person to catch the full length studs as I pushed 'em through the machine.

Conversely, big ol' cast iron Craftsman 10" saw with carbide finish blade, set the fence just exactly right, and I could feed the wood through about 4x as fast as the planer could handle, and the saw didn't budge a bit. Plus, the much larger table made handling and managing the wood far easier, withal.

Now, if I had been surfacing the "flats" of the studs, the planer would've been the better tool for the job. But, I was ripping off a whisper of wood from the narrow dimension of the 2"x4", pretty much as fast as I could run 'em through the blade.

This time anyway, table saw for the win.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2016 11:59 PM (v5iqM)

280
Ah. Better.
Now I'll try, again, to post link to today's 'Pickles' cartoon:
http://www.gocomics.com/pickles

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:00 AM (OLNwX)

281 I've put myself on a low-news diet and I feel a wee tad lobotomized. It's odd being in this zone with all the cheery lofovos who get the news from Facebook and think it would be nice if everything was free. FREE!


Free?....What savings.

By Grabthar's Hammer.

Posted by: eleven at August 19, 2016 12:00 AM (qUNWi)

282 >> Talks like a retard but nobody is perfect

I had to look her up. Purely because of my desire to hope she's reformed and become a paragon of virtue and doesn't do bad things any more, of course.

She's retired, but is doing web camming. And some stalker got her after, threatening to kill her. He was going to shoot her and live stream it. The FBI caught him. He was real piece of work, looked like he was from Deliverance.

Anyway, she got in some epic fight with another little hottie of a pornstar. They "worked" together. But then got into a feud.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 12:01 AM (DW+jj)

283 >>>Can you even but a new propane refridgerater anymore?

Yes you can RK

Got a new gas stove for the cabin. Electronic ignition uses 2 9-volt batteries.

My old 1950 standing pilot light stove pretty died of old age

Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 19, 2016 12:01 AM (voOPb)

284
I've been through two new high efficiency top loader washers in the last four years. Each lasted about two years before blowing the main control board. The self diagnostics were worse than useless; they were misleading and lead me to replace good components. The first was a Samsung, the second a Maytag Centennial.

After the second one failed I bought a used 10 year old Maytag with no electronics.

Posted by: Frankly at August 19, 2016 12:01 AM (t4BAs)

285 "So which tool is the most useful:

1) cordless drill

2) reciprocating saw "




One of those two. Probably the drill. Just pick it up and go do a little job. No finding an outlet, stringing cord. Recip still has huge cred' though.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 12:03 AM (G9xtI)

286 bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 19, 2016 12:04 AM (GdFQh)

287 I had a ceiling that looked JUST LIKE THAT!!!

Posted by: MathMom at August 19, 2016 12:04 AM (vm3Uc)

288 my next project will be to cap my chimney long before winter comes. i've been studying and comparing different types.

but i will have the chimney sweep guy come first.

after all that it will be time to get wood...lots.
i love a good fire.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 12:04 AM (K5zCh)

289 Ceiling legs are watching you masturbate.
And the ceiling fan is cheering you on!

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2016 12:04 AM (LdMbv)

290 Reciprocating saw. Hard to dismember the hooker without it.

Posted by: Peter North at August 19, 2016 12:05 AM (FYrz1)

291 251 So which tool is the most useful:

1) cordless drill

2) reciprocating saw

3) impact driver

4) oscillating saw
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:47 PM (SRKgf)


I got along with my Bosch jigsaw for years and years. Admittedly I'm a cheap bastard, but if you want one saw that will do nearly everything, if perhaps not in an ideal way, the jigsaw is it.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 19, 2016 12:05 AM (FnuZG)

292
Anyone here ever troll Hillary supporters, or worshippers of some liberal politician, in real life?
-----------------

That sounds hilarious. The trouble is, the Hillary supporters I know are of the oblivious type.

"Hillary says tea millers abuse Fair Trade."

"What's fare trayed?"

"It's -- why did you say you're supporting Hillary?"

"It's time for a woman to be president."

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 12:05 AM (5o5ek)

293 Can you even but a new propane refridgerater anymore?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:42 PM (G9xtI)


I'm sure you can. Certainly for RV's. Basically, there is nothing that can go wrong with the absorption cooling unit; it's a sealed pressure vessel, and as long as it's kept upright, and heat applied to the chimney, it will cool. I have heard that balky fridges of the Servel type can be "fixed" by turning them upside down for a while, and then setting them back upright, and leaving them sit for 24 hours before attempting to restart. I have no idea if it works.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:06 AM (oqkO3)

294 If I have to buy a new washing machine for the house, I'm going to the place that sells the coin-op units, and buy one with the coin mechanism removed.

Top loader, with internal mechanisms lifted from a D-7 Cat, I think.

All the "pretty" machines they sell at the big box stores remove dollars from wallets better than they remove stains from clothes.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2016 12:06 AM (v5iqM)

295 I wish Home Depot had a "I don't know what the #$@ I'm doing" section...
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 18, 2016 11:04 PM (OKox0)


They do. And the people there all wear orange. [grumble, grumble, grumble]

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2016 12:06 AM (ry34m)

296 iforgot, LOL. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2016 12:07 AM (OKox0)

297 Kindltot, that would explain a lot... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2016 12:07 AM (OKox0)

298 which tool is the most useful:

1) cordless drill

Posted by: gNewt....panhandlers never seem to not have their hands out ~ at August 19, 2016 12:07 AM (tBswe)

299 >>>There is no such standard with appliances.

Guess NSA will have something to tell the FTC or some other alphabet agency about

Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 19, 2016 12:07 AM (voOPb)

300 Got a new gas stove for the cabin. Electronic ignition uses 2 9-volt batteries.>>>

Did not know they made ones that had batteries for ignition. My plan was a regular 120v like I have at the house and a car battery and inverter. the 2 9volts since all I care about is the ignition not the clock makes more sense.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 19, 2016 12:07 AM (CDowr)

301
248
Well, since each maker, depending on year and model, could have their
own entirely different board design you never know what you're walking
into and as an independent he can't possibly afford to buy and inventory
a large variety which may not ever get used.



Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 18, 2016 11:24 PM (G9xtI)





Precisely. And the circuit boards are all but impervious to normal
troubleshooting techniques. At least with automobiles, they all have to
be OBDII compliant, which means that one $39 code reader can read
trouble codes from all makes of car. There is no such standard with
appliances.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2016 11:46 PM (oqkO3)


Actually, it's rather startling to find out how few actual manufacturers we have left -- AC units by York, Coleman, Luxaire, and Guardian are actually made by a company called "Johnson Controls". Water heaters [Reliance, State, Lochinvar, U.S. Craftmaster, American, and AO Smith are all actually AO Smith] and garbage disposers [aw, screw it -- http://www.appliance411.com/parts/make.shtml ] are similarly single-sourced but multiply-named.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:08 AM (EzgxV)

302 Those swimmers were robbed based on US standards. In Latin countries it's common that they will force tourists to pay the property owner for alleged damages or they will take you to jail if they are honest or threaten you with harm if they're not.

In this case it was armed security guards that demanded the swimmers cough up money to pay for alleged damages.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 12:08 AM (MNgU2)

303 MidAmeriCon II/Worldcon Report II:

No outrageous SJWisms encountered today. The natives seem very strange, and like to talk in hissy stage whispers while sitting behind me at panel sessions, and they have not yet mastered the mystical arts of microphone and speaker, but they have not shown any signs of overt hostility.

One snarky Trump comment today, and one invocation of the Name Of Trump, but that one gets a pass as it was in reference to how you shouldn't talk politics if you're trying to build your brand. Zero snarky Hillary comments, of course.

I received electronic signals from our own Political Hat, but the Sprint Lords declined to deliver them in a timely manner.

The expedition continues.
Posted by: filbert at August 18, 2016 11:18 PM (s5o+q)


Clearly, you avoided the explicit SJW panels.

This is a relatively new thing. Oh, there have been SJWs and panels filled with them, but no panel that was explicitly so.

Also, apparently the new writing team for Doctor Who will feature less Whites, straights, and men... so of course the Doctor Who panels loved the idea.

Voting tomorrow on choosing the 2018 WorldCon site between San Jose (CA) and New Orleans.

Also voting tomorrow for the NASFiC convention (North American convention held when the WorldCon is outside of North America) between Valley Forge (PA), and San Juan (Puerto Rico).

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 19, 2016 12:08 AM (NHISB)

304 One of those two. Probably the drill. Just pick it up and go do a little job. No finding an outlet, stringing cord. Recip still has huge cred' though.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
-------------

If those are the choices, then, yeah, the drill (motor). A set of varied screwdriver bits and nut-driver bits round out the utility.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:08 AM (OLNwX)

305 "my next project will be to cap my chimney long before winter comes. i've been studying and comparing different types. "



You mean like a new "cap" around the top?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 12:09 AM (G9xtI)

306
Djever hear that joke about Teddy Kennedy's handlers talking to him?

"Uh, Senator, Mary Jo is pregnant. What would you like to do about that?"

"We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 18, 2016 11:51 PM (5o5ek)


Yeah, I've heard that joke.
I just hate it that he got away with what he did. He barely even got a slap on the wrist. Anyone else who did something like leave the scene of an accident where someone died, would have the book thrown at them.

The voters of Mass. should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 19, 2016 12:10 AM (+lVUW)

307 So which tool is the most useful:



2) reciprocating saw


Posted by: University Sex Studies Professor at August 19, 2016 12:10 AM (CDowr)

308 305 "my next project will be to cap my chimney long before winter comes. i've been studying and comparing different types. "



You mean like a new "cap" around the top?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 12:09 AM (G9xtI)

Like busting a cap in its ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2016 12:12 AM (0mRoj)

309 302 Those swimmers were robbed based on US standards. In Latin countries it's common that they will force tourists to pay the property owner for alleged damages or they will take you to jail if they are honest or threaten you with harm if they're not.

In this case it was armed security guards that demanded the swimmers cough up money to pay for alleged damages.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 12:08 AM (MNgU2)

I remember in Europe how you had to pay to use the bathroom, and how foreigners can't believe you don't have to pay to use the bathroom at McDonald's.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 19, 2016 12:13 AM (dKiJG)

310 You mean like a new "cap" around the top?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
--------------

I suspect he means a flue cap, i.e. screen.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:13 AM (OLNwX)

311 Cthulhu, that's been going on for a very long time. Used to be, you could use a JC Whitney catalog to cross-reference car parts (don't know if they're even around any more) and get a big-name, high price car part with the same part number for a much lower price but with a less prestigious name.

Posted by: Empire1 at August 19, 2016 12:14 AM (5WTFJ)

312 But with women, that suction might clamp down on 'em, and cause problems, so they had to put air holes in or something.
Former HQ regular, E.R. nurse Running RN, told us how when women came into Emergency with a wine bottle being used as a dildo stuck in there, they would drill a little hole in the bottom of the bottle to break the suction effect. Same principle I'd imagine in space even if no one can here you scream there.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2016 12:14 AM (LdMbv)

313
The voters of Mass. should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 19, 2016 12:10 AM (+lVUW)
-----------------------

If the script "pulls no punches," it would be nice for the Massholes to be included. Final scene of Ted grinning as he's re-elected in the customary landslide with a dissolve to Mary Jo's gravestone?

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 12:14 AM (5o5ek)

314 >>>305 You mean like a new "cap" around the top?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 12:09 AM

yes...per the home inspection, there isn't one...?!?
the old man who lived here put an insert in the fireplace (good) but never built any fires. i'm not a heater type of girl.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 12:15 AM (K5zCh)

315 Just as a passing comment, I have what must be one of the first 'modular' tools. An early 50's reciprocating saw which is driven by attaching a 1/4" drill.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:16 AM (OLNwX)

316 279
Isn't that what they make planers for?



Posted by: cthulhu at August 18, 2016 11:49 PM (EzgxV)Isn't that what they make planers for?





Cooth, I set up the fence on the table saw, and was able to make
repetitive cuts on about fifteen full and partial studs, in less time
than it would've taken to even get the planer off of it's rack on the
wall, set up it's stand, adjust for that on-edge feed of the studs, and
then need a 2nd person to catch the full length studs as I pushed 'em
through the machine.



Conversely, big ol' cast iron Craftsman 10" saw with carbide finish
blade, set the fence just exactly right, and I could feed the wood
through about 4x as fast as the planer could handle, and the saw didn't
budge a bit. Plus, the much larger table made handling and managing the
wood far easier, withal.



Now, if I had been surfacing the "flats" of the studs, the planer
would've been the better tool for the job. But, I was ripping off a
whisper of wood from the narrow dimension of the 2"x4", pretty much as
fast as I could run 'em through the blade.



This time anyway, table saw for the win.





Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX



Posted by: Jim at August 18, 2016 11:59 PM (v5iqM)


By contrast, my Craftsman 10" "table saw" is a wee little benchtop thing with some optional wobbly legs. It sits on a Black+Decker workbench most of the time, but has it's own little wobbly-legged stand (and bag for catching sawdust) for when it's "fully deployed".

Not quite a cast-iron table saw.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:17 AM (EzgxV)

317 It's reported that Allahpundit = Josh Barro???
That was reported several weeks ago but it looks like it's not the case from the brief research that I did on it.

Binging around I found an atheist site that gave Allahpundit's birthday as 1972 while Barro's is in 1984; and I think (but don't know for a fact I admit) that Allahpundit has been to events like CPAC as himself and if he were Barro, I'm sure he would have been outed on it because of Barro being a known-MSM personality.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2016 12:17 AM (LdMbv)

318
New topic. Since people were talking about the Netflix show Stranger Things, I watched a coupla episodes. Then I read the plot on wiki and watched the final episode. It didn't much thrill me. Supposedly a second season is on the way, but I think I'll pass. I can see what the writers are trying to do, but it's a few steps short of brilliantly different for my tastes.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 12:18 AM (5o5ek)

319 *smacks ISP with dead-blow hammer*

Maybe this will work...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2016 11:58 PM (OLNwX)


My father knew the guy who invented (or at least got a patent on) the dead-blow hammer, back around 1950-something. I still have one of the originals. I tried searching for information on the Web, but drew a blank. I do know that he called it the "No Bounce" hammer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:19 AM (oqkO3)

320 Cthulhu, that's been going on for a very long time. Used to be, you
could use a JC Whitney catalog to cross-reference car parts (don't know
if they're even around any more) and get a big-name, high price car part
with the same part number for a much lower price but with a less
prestigious name.>>>

Never used JC Whitney. But today I do use Rock Auto and Parts Geek. If I don't need the part that day and can wait maybe 5 days. I usually save 50% at least compared to O'Reilly or NAPA..

Posted by: Willy J. at August 19, 2016 12:19 AM (CDowr)

321 312: On an ONT a while back, we got to joking about "things women put up their hoohas".

According to the ER stats, it's usually men who accidentally sit down on things after getting out of the shower and get it stuck up their stupid asses.

Women rarely do that. But they do get things stuck in their vaginas, and you can find "tales from the ER" stories about it.

One I remember is one women who was super fan of Donny Osmond back in the day. She got a rolled up picture of Donny stuck up there somehow.

Sticking the open end of a bottle up those orifices is indeed dangerous because of the suction.

The professionals know better, which explains why the bottles go wide-end first. Or they have holes drilled in. Amateurs don't know this.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 12:20 AM (DW+jj)

322 "No Bounce" hammer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Filled with lead shot, perhaps?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:20 AM (OLNwX)

323 " Amateurs don't know this. "

But you.... do.

Posted by: navybrat at August 19, 2016 12:21 AM (w7KSn)

324 >> But you.... do.

A friend told me.

And anyone who tells you different is a liar! It's libel and slander, I tell you. I doth protest. A lot. I protest much.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 12:23 AM (DW+jj)

325
311
Cthulhu, that's been going on for a very long time. Used to be, you
could use a JC Whitney catalog to cross-reference car parts (don't know
if they're even around any more) and get a big-name, high price car part
with the same part number for a much lower price but with a less
prestigious name.


Posted by: Empire1 at August 19, 2016 12:14 AM (5WTFJ)


Used to be, if you had 80% of a market, the Feds would anti-trust your ass. Now, so long as the graft continues to flow, it's all good.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:23 AM (EzgxV)

326
Meanwhile, in Soviet Russia - the Riga 8 Washing Machine:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB2w65sowNE

Leaking open tub of water + extension cord. What's not to like?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 19, 2016 12:23 AM (kdS6q)

327 Cooth, I used to have that same Craftsman plastic 10" table saw....just that mine had the Hitatchi label on it. Exact same piece, though.

And exact same wobbly probs, too.

A good compromise, is a Bosch, Rigid, or DeWalt, folding, portable 10" Contractor's Table Saw.

I've used the DeWalt, and it's for all intents and purposes, as steady as the cast-iron Craftsman, and it's ..... portable! Plus, you can fold the legs, and stow the saw on the wall at about 1/3 of the Craftsman's footprint.

Highly recommended, actually.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2016 12:24 AM (v5iqM)

328 Amazing all these weird accidents that happen to people who cross the Clintons in some way.

Posted by: DonnaV (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 18, 2016 11:26 PM (P8951)


Watch out for the Kirchners too.

Posted by: Alberto Nisman at August 19, 2016 12:24 AM (ry34m)

329 Filled with lead shot, perhaps?>>>

Like a Remington 870?

Hillary joke.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 19, 2016 12:24 AM (CDowr)

330 Remember the fine upstanding lady who tried to smuggle a handgun in her cooch while visiting her boyfriend in prison?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 12:24 AM (MNgU2)

331 And never criticize Rock Concert in front of Don!

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2016 12:26 AM (LdMbv)

332 317
It's reported that Allahpundit = Josh Barro???

That was reported several weeks ago but it looks like it's not the case from the brief research that I did on it.



Binging around I found an atheist site that gave Allahpundit's
birthday as 1972 while Barro's is in 1984; and I think (but don't know
for a fact I admit) that Allahpundit has been to events like CPAC as
himself and if he were Barro, I'm sure he would have been outed on it
because of Barro being a known-MSM personality.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 19, 2016 12:17 AM (LdMbv)


Ace and Allahpundit and [IIRC] Carol used to go to movies together.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:27 AM (EzgxV)

333 Filled with lead shot, perhaps?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:20 AM (OLNwX)


Yes, fine lead shot. Maybe #7, at a guess. The hammer head is a steel tube, to which a smaller, flattened tube was brazed, to act as a socket for the handle. Caps were brazed to the end of the head, which had studs on them to accept standard soft-face hammer faces.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:28 AM (oqkO3)

334 Ricardo kill,
They use propane/electric(they can switch back and forth between) refrigerators in RV's. We replaced our old fridge about two years ago so I know they still make them.

Posted by: lindafell de spair -racist, redneck, sexist, bitter clinger, Moron in TEXIT! at August 19, 2016 12:29 AM (xVgrA)

335 TV remote controls and cell phones have been retrieved. In one tale, one woman just used her vagina as a special pocket. She'd put stuff up there all the time for safekeeping and got some weird, maybe car keys stuck up there.

And there was one tale of a woman from Scotland who had a 5" dildo stuck up there *for years*. She said she "forgot about", and it was causing some urinary problem. They found on examination. How the hell she could forget something like that, I don't know.

And it looks like any boyfriends or husband she might have would have run into it so to speak. She likely had nobody to do that. Long dry spell.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 12:29 AM (DW+jj)

336 Interesting.


Holy crap is hot air dead.


Went over there after i heard. Five-ten comments per article. Worse than jeb state...

Posted by: Fiftytwo at August 19, 2016 12:30 AM (UaYoL)

337
Meanwhile, in Soviet Russia - the Riga 8 Washing Machine:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB2w65sowNE

Leaking open tub of water + extension cord. What's not to like?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 19, 2016 12:23 AM (kdS6q)
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When they're constructing the Happy Fun Camps, that POS will get the Hillary Seal of Approval.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 12:32 AM (5o5ek)

338 At one time, we had a propane-fueled air conditioner. It was physically large. Probably 3 ton unit, or so. Bryant, if I recall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:32 AM (OLNwX)

339 Former HQ regular, E.R. nurse Running RN, told us how when women came into Emergency with a wine bottle being used as a dildo stuck in there, they would drill a little hole in the bottom of the bottle to break the suction effect.

Women out there are reduced to using wine bottles to pleasure themselves, BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO POOR TO BUY DILDOS. If I'm elected president, I'm going to add dildos to the list of free shit that people should get from the taxpayers.

Posted by: Hillary at August 19, 2016 12:33 AM (+lVUW)

340 327
Cooth, I used to have that same Craftsman plastic 10" table saw....just
that mine had the Hitatchi label on it. Exact same piece, though.



And exact same wobbly probs, too.



A good compromise, is a Bosch, Rigid, or DeWalt, folding, portable 10" Contractor's Table Saw.



I've used the DeWalt, and it's for all intents and purposes, as
steady as the cast-iron Craftsman, and it's ..... portable! Plus, you
can fold the legs, and stow the saw on the wall at about 1/3 of the
Craftsman's footprint.



Highly recommended, actually.





Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2016 12:24 AM (v5iqM)


At the moment, I am possibly OVER-provisioned for table saws -- as mine currently collects more dust than sawdust. One thing about table saws, however -- they're right up there with lathes and mills for danger. I had a gf whose grandmother's boyfriend, 70 years old, lost part of two fingers to a table saw. After 20+ years together, he thought it was tame and they understood each other -- instead, it pounced on the opportunity.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:36 AM (EzgxV)

341 Good riddance to Hot Air. I put a custom filter in AdBlock Plus to permanently kill the FaceButt and Twatter plugin-ins and thus don't see any of it on the increasingly rare visits I make there. I said to hell with them when they went to the ZuckerBorg system. Amongst other reasons.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 12:36 AM (DW+jj)

342
Meanwhile, in Soviet Russia - the Riga 8 Washing Machine:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB2w65sowNE

Leaking open tub of water + extension cord. What's not to like?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 19, 2016 12:23 AM (kdS6q)
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But srsly, I thought I'd hang in for the next video that auto-loaded and saw people with an odd little machine outdoors at night. JESUS CHRIST it was a chicken-plucker. Drop in a dead chicken (I hope it was dead) and ... ugh.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 12:36 AM (5o5ek)

343 18 DIY projects in the name of avoiding repair or build projects outsourcing have netted me some great toys over the years - MIG welder, plasma cutter, various saws, drill press, nail guns, etc. All I needed to learn I found on the Internets. I gained skills and the hubs likes buying me tools for gifts. Win. Win.
Posted by: Hazchic at August 18, 2016 10:45 PM (ljtnt)


You got a plasma cutter? I WANT A PLASMA CUTTER. How much did you pay for that baby?

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 12:37 AM (RLdcX)

344 At one time, we had a propane-fueled air conditioner. It was physically large. Probably 3 ton unit, or so. Bryant, if I recall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:32 AM (OLNwX)


Yeah, the "outside" plumbing of absorption cooling units is huge compared to the heat exchanger in the "cold" side. And all made of welded steel tube, because there are fairly high internal pressures. IIRC, they contain hydrogen, helium, and ammonia, and the thermodynamic cycle depends upon the differential solubility of the former two in ammonia at high temperature, and low temperature.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:37 AM (oqkO3)

345 I put this on Twitter, but I know alot of y'all don't do teh tweets.

I ordered something from Amazon the other day and saw a new box for delivery. Deliver to an Amazon Locker? Hmm. Deliveries can be a pain because they go to the Apartment Office and trying to find someone there can take a few days/tries as they aren't open when I get off work (10:30pm), and I generally work 7 days a week.

Is there one near me? Sure as shit there's one in the Grocery store I always go to around the corner from me. I haven't noticed this. I go there 2-3 times a week, so this is probably really new. So now I'm really curious. So if you order something and have it delivered to that locker they send you and email with a barcode and boom! You get your shit! Sold!

So Set the order and then the next day after work (I had to pick up some water anyway), I drop by to scout it out. Sure as shit it's where I thought it would probably be. Where they had the old magazine/book rack. Cool! My shit will be here tomorrow Maybe I can snag it before work (It was a new tool). Wake up today and sure as shit there's an email saying it's been delivered (10am ish) and there's a barcode!

So I leave 15 min early for work so I can hit the locker (and the liquor store because I was light on Val-u-rite) and still make it to work if there's some funkyness. Open up my mail as I walk up. Put Phone infront of scanner. Wait a few. It's not opening shit. Kind of move the phone around a little. BEEP! Your locker is to your left and is open. Enjoy your Delivery! Sure as shit a locker just to my left has popped open and there's my new pair of channel locks (In an envelope of course). So I snag them, put them in my back pocket and head on to pick up the Val-u-Rite.

FUCKING AMAZING! WE LIVE IN THE FUTURE! I DON'T HAVE TO INTERACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE TO BUY SHIT FROM AMAZON! SQUEEEEE!

oh and if you are wondering, you have 3-5 business days to pick it up, and if you don't they return it and refund it fully. HOLY SHIT. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

Posted by: Zakn at August 19, 2016 12:38 AM (d2pTe)

346 "I know they still make them."


Thank you, linda. Still checking out the links.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 12:38 AM (G9xtI)

347
Josh Barro lives in Queens, New York, is gay, and supports same-sex marriage. He is also an atheist. He identifies as neoliberal and Republican. A former aide of Barack Obama included Barro on a short list of Obama's favorite columnists. He is engaged to be married to Zachary Allen, chairman of TIPAH Consulting and former Democratic National Committee official. His favorite ice creme flavor is strawberry.



Almost fits. However, Allahpundit's favorite flavor is vanilla.

But eerily close. Like doppelgangers.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 19, 2016 12:38 AM (kdS6q)

348 330 Remember the fine upstanding lady who tried to smuggle a handgun in her cooch while visiting her boyfriend in prison?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 12:24 AM (MNgU2)


Please tell me she had the safety on.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 19, 2016 12:39 AM (+lVUW)

349 Amen publius.

Posted by: Fiftytwo at August 19, 2016 12:39 AM (UaYoL)

350 "ZuckerBorg"! Doubleplusgood, publius! Another one I'll have to remember!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 19, 2016 12:40 AM (kP16F)

351 You got a plasma cutter? I WANT A PLASMA CUTTER. How much did you pay for that baby?

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 12:37 AM (RLdcX)


There are some plans, and Youtubes for DIY plasma cutters out there. I have entertained the idea of trying it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:40 AM (oqkO3)

352
334
Ricardo kill,

They use propane/electric(they can switch back and forth between)
refrigerators in RV's. We replaced our old fridge about two years ago so
I know they still make them.

Posted by: lindafell de spair -racist, redneck, sexist, bitter clinger, Moron in TEXIT! at August 19, 2016 12:29 AM (xVgrA)


For more fun and games, I understand that it's common to use LP gas (for a gas BBQ) to recharge auto AC systems south of the border. The pressure characteristics are similar, there's no corrosion issues, and it works. That AC leaks become fire hazards is just a quirk.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:40 AM (EzgxV)

353
Posted by: Zakn at August 19, 2016 12:38 AM (d2pTe)

---------------

Let's get devious now. How can the Democrats fuck that up? Because sure as shit, they'll try.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 12:40 AM (5o5ek)

354 Women out there are reduced to using wine bottles to
pleasure themselves, BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO POOR TO BUY DILDOS. If I'm
elected president, I'm going to add dildos to the list of free shit that
people should get from the taxpayers.

Posted by: Hillary at August 19, 2016 12:33 AM (+lVUW)

I blame Food deserts.

Posted by: The Cucumber at August 19, 2016 12:41 AM (CDowr)

355 Amazon actually sells plasma cutters. They are low end machines, from a quick look. $300 and up, roughly.

I remember, when I was thinking of getting one, the ones of that size were around $600+

You're gonna need compressed air to run one. CFM requirements are around 3 - 4 for that size, I see.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 12:42 AM (DW+jj)

356 347
Josh Barro lives in Queens, New York, is gay, and supports same-sex marriage. He is also an atheist. He identifies as neoliberal and Republican. A former aide of Barack Obama included Barro on a short list of Obama's favorite columnists. He is engaged to be married to Zachary Allen, chairman of TIPAH Consulting and former Democratic National Committee official. His favorite ice creme flavor is strawberry.



Almost fits. However, Allahpundit's favorite flavor is vanilla.

But eerily close. Like doppelgangers.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 19, 2016 12:38 AM (kdS6q)


Ah, someone else found HotGas.net

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 12:42 AM (RLdcX)

357 I had a gf whose grandmother's boyfriend, 70 years old, lost part of two fingers to a table saw. After 20+ years together, he thought it was tame and they understood each other -- instead, it pounced on the opportunity.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:36 AM (EzgxV)



Exactly so. There are some jobs though, that only a well set-up table saw can do. Same with a lathe.

But, I know that they're never a "friend", or tame in any way. I don't depend on guards or other devices, as the worst injuries I've seen are with folks made complacent by trust in such.

Instead, I keep fingers and arms well clear of the damn blade, use a push stick or other feed-assist tools, and just "stay afraid" of the thing, regardless of my nominal confidence level.

Power tools in general, are all conspiring to kill ya.

Just like on a motorcycle. Ride like you're invisible, that no one can see you. And anyone who *can* see you, is thus trying to kill you.

In short. Complacency kills. Sometimes, even when ya've done everything just right, too.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2016 12:42 AM (v5iqM)

358 350: I can't claim credit for it, I heard it somewhere. Hell, I might have first seen it here from someone. :-)

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 12:43 AM (DW+jj)

359 There are some plans, and Youtubes for DIY plasma cutters out there. I have entertained the idea of trying it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:40 AM (oqkO3)


I am good at welding but not good at building shit like that, plus finances are a problem

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 12:44 AM (RLdcX)

360 Another thing I remember. The good ones will come with their own pressure regulator and dryer/filter.

The nozzles absolutely do not like dirt or water or oil in the air supply, so filtering and drying are crucial.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 12:45 AM (DW+jj)

361 I had a gf whose grandmother's boyfriend, 70 years old, lost part of
two fingers to a table saw. After 20+ years together, he thought it was
tame and they understood each other -- instead, it pounced on the
opportunity.



Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:36 AM (EzgxV)
>>>

My grandfather was missing a few digits for the same reason. Since he was also one of the men who taught me about tools. I have always kept a reasonable fear of the dangerous ones. He basically said the same thing that he lost his fingers because he was too comfortable with the saw.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 19, 2016 12:47 AM (CDowr)

362 Plasma cutters are a wonderful thing, and it's the revolution in solid-state electronics, heavy-current solid state that allow them to be so relatively inexpensive.

They make a pencil-thin arc, which runs a temp of 7000F. But it's so small, there's very little total heat input to the melt.

That 7000F arc just vaporizes the tinniest little sliver of a kerf.

And the solid state inverter control system allows for high frequency and waveform control to keep the arc going. Without that, that tiny little arc couldn't be easily maintained.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 12:48 AM (DW+jj)

363 Working around things like band saws and Lathes you always need to really be paying attention like a motherfucker. Those things will take your fingers, hands, arm, and even your life.

Vividly remember waiting on a part getting machined in bumfuck Iowa on an old Lathe operator get teary eyed telling me about his regret on not reminding his friend to be careful with his long hair 5 minutes before it got wrapped up in the work drawing him in and killing him.

At work they have a video at work where it recommends Wearing gloves when working around rotating equipment. Every year I pipe up and tell everyone DO NOT DO THIS.

Posted by: Zakn at August 19, 2016 12:49 AM (d2pTe)

364 For more fun and games, I understand that it's common to use LP gas (for a gas BBQ) to recharge auto AC systems south of the border. The pressure characteristics are similar, there's no corrosion issues, and it works. That AC leaks become fire hazards is just a quirk.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:40 AM (EzgxV)


There are several brands available here in Canada, and have been for years. Typically a blend of 80% propane, and 20% isobutane, plus leak-disclosure dye, or sealant, or compressor lube. It works just fine. I have it in the A/C of my '88 Suburban right now, and it blows cold. Your typical auto A/C contains perhaps 1 to 2 pounds weight of refrigerant. The hydrocarbon blend is combustible, so a slight hazard exists. The fuel tank of your vehicle can contain from 80 to 300 pounds of gasoline, so a slight hazard exists...


https://www.amazon.com/Cans-RED-Refrigerant-Freon-Replacement/dp/B00DJDYMEA

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:49 AM (oqkO3)

365 @358, publius

Yeah... I just GoOgled it -- it's been around for a while but I'd not heard of that one til now, believe it or not!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 19, 2016 12:50 AM (kP16F)

366
an odd little machine outdoors at night. JESUS CHRIST it was a chicken-plucker. Drop in a dead chicken (I hope it was dead) and ... ugh.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle



Ivan apparently also likes to use his washing machines to grind and press fruit for cider:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vToqH5fh9g

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 19, 2016 12:51 AM (kdS6q)

367
He is engaged to be married to Zachary Allen, chairman of TIPAH Consulting and former Democratic National Committee official. His favorite ice creme flavor is strawberry.

-------------------

Your post made me just for the heck of it google Chris Hughes and Sean Eldridge. How I rejoice in the political downfall of that couple.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 12:51 AM (5o5ek)

368 G-Ma Bell.............you're good at welding?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 12:52 AM (G9xtI)

369 Good night horde.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 19, 2016 12:52 AM (P8951)

370 The defining trait of a lefty, secret lefty (pretending to be a "true con", or a weirdo/freak is a man who effusively praises/obsesses about their cat(s).


A normal, real man can love his cat or cats in general, but he doesn't talk about it more than once a month and NEVER in nis profile.

Posted by: Fiftytwo at August 19, 2016 12:54 AM (UaYoL)

371 368 G-Ma Bell.............you're good at welding?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 12:52 AM (G9xtI)

At least I think so. Been doing it for years. Except stick welding, tore up my shoulder and can't lift my left arm anymore. With a MIG welder I can do everything one handed

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 12:55 AM (RLdcX)

372 Don't like TIG welding. Too many flash burns and TIG is really "shrill"

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 12:58 AM (RLdcX)

373
Ivan apparently also likes to use his washing machines to grind and press fruit for cider:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vToqH5fh9g
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 19, 2016 12:51 AM (kdS6q)
-------------------

Ivan has himself a Russian little life there.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 12:58 AM (5o5ek)

374
And good night, all. Big day at work tomorrow.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 01:00 AM (5o5ek)

375 Here is a link to a pdf document by a guy who built his own plasma cutter. He used a plasma torch head that can be found on eBay, and built the power supply out of readily-available components that can mostly be sourced from scrap.


http://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F %2Fwww.metalwebnews.com%2Fhowto%2Fplasma%2 Fplasnator.pdf


Remove double-spaces.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 01:00 AM (oqkO3)

376 On the Mountain Men show on History channel one set of guys has some early 1900s belt drive wood planer. It looked like a piece of equipment made specifically for removing peoples limbs. Spinning spoked wheels and gears with no guards just waiting to eat flesh and bone. Life used to be way more dangerous. Still is on farms.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 19, 2016 01:01 AM (CDowr)

377 "Don't like TIG welding. Too many flash burns and TIG is really "shrill"


Never done MIG or TIG. Always stick. It's hard until you get the "knack." Kinda like a bicycle.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:01 AM (G9xtI)

378 Never done MIG or TIG. Always stick. It's hard until you get the "knack." Kinda like a bicycle.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:01 AM (G9xtI)


Then you should try FluxCore. Combines MIG with Stick, sweet

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 01:04 AM (RLdcX)

379 "On the Mountain Men show on History channel one set of guys has some early 1900s belt drive wood planer. It looked like a piece of equipment made specifically for removing peoples limbs."



I saw that. Wouldn't stand within 10ft of it myself. Whirling dervish.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:04 AM (G9xtI)

380 I always wanted to learn "Heli-arc", but have never gotten around to it. This damned arthritis is a pain.

A neighbor of mine who had a massive stroke was a TIG magician. Another neighbor actually had a big, ancient TIG machine, but couldn't use it. He could only use for it stick.

Anyway that neigbor who could do it would use the other's machine to do some Heli-arcing for all of us around.

With aluminum, he could make some of the most beautiful beads you ever saw. Perfectly symmetrical little "circles", even lapping. It was just beautiful.

Now, poor guy couldn't weld anything.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 01:05 AM (DW+jj)

381 "Then you should try FluxCore. Combines MIG with Stick, sweet"


How do you know so much about welding?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:05 AM (G9xtI)

382 300 Got a new gas stove for the cabin. Electronic ignition uses 2 9-volt batteries.>>>

Did not know they made ones that had batteries for ignition. My plan was a regular 120v like I have at the house and a car battery and inverter. the 2 9volts since all I care about is the ignition not the clock makes more sense.
Posted by: Willy J. at August 19, 2016 12:07 AM (CDowr)

I was thinking about getting an inverter. I do run 12v lights at the cabin along with LP lights.

Brown Appliance is the maker of the stove. A little pricey but i should have it the rest of my days

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 19, 2016 01:06 AM (voOPb)

383 I'm out ... not normally a nightwalker anyway, though I do normally read the ONT with my morning coffee. Just excited to be back on line, and wanted to share it with the Horde. Fare thee well, and see you again after sunrise.

Posted by: Empire1 at August 19, 2016 01:08 AM (5WTFJ)

384 My washing machine and dryer were both built in 1958. Installed in the basement by the previous owner. I "inherited" them whne I moved in a couple decades ago.

To this day, the work perfectly. Zero problems.

(Well, that's not entirely true: the dryer has a couple of weird quirks about the timer settings, but as loing as you know to just turn it "On" and futz around remembering which timing setting works, you're fine.)

I think these were made just before the final triumph of planned obsolescence.
Posted by: zombie at August 18, 2016 10:55 PM (jBuUi)


I LOL'ed out loud at this post! zombie, zombie, zombie, this is the scene in the movie when they all break down.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad timings but you wrote this script...

Posted by: Max Power at August 19, 2016 01:08 AM (QCc6B)

385 They make modern planers and mills that simply use a chainsaw modded into a mount. Put it in, do your thing, take out. Don't even require engine power other than the saw.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:09 AM (G9xtI)

386 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 01:05 AM (DW+jj)


I've done some aluminum TIG welding, that requires patients. My "beats" were never very pretty, but they held what I was welding. Like I said, I really don't like TIG, not even with an automatic feeder

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 01:09 AM (RLdcX)

387 The fourth member of the Apollo 16 crew: Mr Hankey.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 01:12 AM (6FqZa)

388 Nite Horde

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 19, 2016 01:14 AM (voOPb)

389 I suck at welding. But I do fail other peoples welds because I have an AWS CWI cert. I keep telling myself I should learn more about the actual art of welding. But not much for classes near me and not many projects that I cant hack my way through.

Posted by: Willy J. at August 19, 2016 01:15 AM (CDowr)

390 "The fourth member of the Apollo 16 crew: Mr Hankey."


Roger Hankey. Marine. Korea veteran. Flew Corsairs in their balls out while Migs were swarming.


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:16 AM (G9xtI)

391 Nite MH.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 01:17 AM (OLNwX)

392 Hasta, MH....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:17 AM (G9xtI)

393 How do you know so much about welding?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:05 AM (G9xtI)


I don't know if I "know" all that much about welding, I was certified, but since I tore my shoulder to shreds (ripping off my long and short bicep muscle from my shoulder and taking the rotator cuff with it) I haven't welded very much in years, except for MIG, which I can do with just my right arm

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 01:18 AM (RLdcX)

394 357
I had a gf whose grandmother's boyfriend, 70 years old, lost part of
two fingers to a table saw. After 20+ years together, he thought it was
tame and they understood each other -- instead, it pounced on the
opportunity.



Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 12:36 AM (EzgxV)





Exactly so. There are some jobs though, that only a well set-up table saw can do. Same with a lathe.



But, I know that they're never a "friend", or tame in any way. I
don't depend on guards or other devices, as the worst injuries I've seen
are with folks made complacent by trust in such.



Instead, I keep fingers and arms well clear of the damn blade, use a
push stick or other feed-assist tools, and just "stay afraid" of the
thing, regardless of my nominal confidence level.



Power tools in general, are all conspiring to kill ya.



Just like on a motorcycle. Ride like you're invisible, that no one
can see you. And anyone who *can* see you, is thus trying to kill you.



In short. Complacency kills. Sometimes, even when ya've done everything just right, too.





Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX



Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2016 12:42 AM (v5iqM)


It's one of the things that I've tried to pass along to the godkids. There are different levels of danger. Respect every power tool, but know that a scrollsaw has a few possibilities for danger.....a properly set-up bandsaw, some more; a skillsaw, quite a few more....joiners/planers are just outright dangerous -- and mills, lathes, and table saws should have a plan going-in, a plan coming-out, contingency plans, mitigation plans -- and plotted-out, resourced, and practiced emergency plans. I had to slap the emergency stop on my mini-mill just today (the workpiece pulled off the table into the tool, jamming the tool) -- I could have just stared at it, but I knew what needed to happen.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 01:18 AM (EzgxV)

395
363
Working around things like band saws and Lathes you always need to
really be paying attention like a motherfucker. Those things will take
your fingers, hands, arm, and even your life.



Vividly remember waiting on a part getting machined in bumfuck Iowa
on an old Lathe operator get teary eyed telling me about his regret on
not reminding his friend to be careful with his long hair 5 minutes
before it got wrapped up in the work drawing him in and killing him.



At work they have a video at work where it recommends Wearing gloves
when working around rotating equipment. Every year I pipe up and tell
everyone DO NOT DO THIS.

Posted by: Zakn at August 19, 2016 12:49 AM (d2pTe)


Here's where it gets scary -- everyone telling those stories these days is over 50. Anyone under 30 has no fucking clue and thinks that Knowledge started in 1985.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 01:22 AM (EzgxV)

396 Oh, and here's a moronosaurus on No Man's Sky:
https://___ur.com/gallery/xeKHfZv

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 01:23 AM (6FqZa)

397 (replace ___ with i m g,)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 01:23 AM (6FqZa)

398 >>>343 18 DIY projects in the name of avoiding repair or build projects outsourcing have netted me some great toys over the years - MIG welder, plasma cutter, various saws, drill press, nail guns, etc. All I needed to learn I found on the Internets. I gained skills and the hubs likes buying me tools for gifts. Win. Win.
Posted by: Hazchic at August 18, 2016 10:45 PM (ljtnt)


You got a plasma cutter? I WANT A PLASMA CUTTER. How much did you pay for that baby?
Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 12:37 AM (RLdcX)

i l-o-v-e stuff like this too.
lucked out in my house deal, got a huge air compressor, pipe cutter/threader (?) thingy that looks like a vice, a hedge trimmer and a riding lawnmower/tractor.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 01:23 AM (K5zCh)

399 " (ripping off my long and short bicep muscle from my shoulder and taking the rotator cuff with it)"



*stares*



How'd you do that?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:24 AM (G9xtI)

400 Cooth, glad you survived the mini-mill mishap, intact.

Point is though, as tool using apes, we've got to train the next generation to make sawdust and metal shavings, every bit as much as shredding on the video console or phone app.

Somewhere, a machinist, tool & die maker, carved out the molds or press-dies for the shells which constitute the latest apple, Samsung, LG, etc, fone.

And, etc.

We've already lost two generations worth of industrial memory though.

With that, I'm off to snoozeville.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2016 01:26 AM (v5iqM)

401 My grandfather was missing a few digits because he worked in a cannery.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 01:28 AM (K5zCh)

402 There are some people who are just accident prone, and have no business around machinery and saws and that kind of that. Two neighbors around here were like that.

It's just carelessness somehow, and they just can't see to learn to watch out.

One of these guys actually nearly cut off his hand with a chain saw. You know how he did that? And I'm not joking. The "blade" was dull, requiring great pressure. So he just put his hand on top of the running bar to push down harder. I'm not making that up. He actually did that.

The other fellow I'm thinking about was missing the ends of more fingers than not. He was a farmer, and most of those cut-off finger ends came from greasing a combine. Well, oiling the chains, which requires to be running. He just was too careless around all the moving parts, all the chains and belts and all that.

The first guy's trouble, was he always tried to go fast. When he was working, he'd try to go wide open. I remember my father warning about him. Stay away from him when he gets to working, he's too damn dangerous.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 01:29 AM (DW+jj)

403 My grandfather was missing a few digits because he worked in a cannery.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 01:28 AM (K5zCh)


I thought those canned chicken fingers tasted a little off!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 01:30 AM (oqkO3)

404 373


Ivan apparently also likes to use his washing machines to grind and press fruit for cider:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vToqH5fh9g

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 19, 2016 12:51 AM (kdS6q)

-------------------



Ivan has himself a Russian little life there.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 19, 2016 12:58 AM (5o5ek)


Saint Petersburg, Russia, a couple of years ago -- visiting the "Cossacks' Cathedral": chickens and cats in the yard, and a guy refurbing the back-end of a pickup truck into a trailer. The actual building is in semi-ruins and unsafe to enter. Out in back, there is a monument to the last Czar.

Honestly, it was one of the best parts of our visit.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 01:31 AM (EzgxV)

405 'Sup, y'all. Just in from karaoke night at the bar...where the KJ sucks so bad that I wound up running the show for 45 minutes, because he was playing darts.


Captain Whitebread, if you're out there, ever thought of moving to Augusta, GA? Cuz, damn karaoke in this city sucks.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 01:32 AM (GUBah)

406 OK, so this happened. I came across another photo of Hillary overreacting to the balloons at the Dem convention and suddenly realized where I'd seen that behavior before.

I know a lady who was in a bad car wreck and suffered some brain damage. She reacts like that to unexpected stimuli.

She also has the following trait. Sometimes she exhibits the behavior of someone very drunk after only a couple of drinks. Not always, sometimes. Random.

Posted by: Hildepockets at August 19, 2016 01:33 AM (ZXR6+)

407
The first guy's trouble, was he always tried to go fast. When he was working, he'd try to go wide open. I remember my father warning about him. Stay away from him when he gets to working, he's too damn dangerous.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 01:29 AM (DW+jj)


Just for you, publius:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwGrC0KicSo

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 01:35 AM (oqkO3)

408 Yikes, off Hildesock

Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 01:36 AM (ZXR6+)

409 400
Cooth, glad you survived the mini-mill mishap, intact.



Point is though, as tool using apes, we've got to train the next
generation to make sawdust and metal shavings, every bit as much as
shredding on the video console or phone app.



Somewhere, a machinist, tool die maker, carved out the molds
or press-dies for the shells which constitute the latest apple, Samsung,
LG, etc, fone.



And, etc.



We've already lost two generations worth of industrial memory though.



With that, I'm off to snoozeville.



Hasta la nite nite, Horde!





Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX





Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2016 01:26 AM (v5iqM)


There wasn't much of a question of me getting hurt -- I try to ensure that there is a tool or guards to get wrecked before my tender carcass is involved. But you are absolutely correct in that our youth needs to comprehend this stuff -- and generally doesn't.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 01:38 AM (EzgxV)

410 How'd you do that?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 19, 2016 01:24 AM (G9xtI)


slinging steel frames for F-150

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at August 19, 2016 01:39 AM (RLdcX)

411 I know a lady who was in a bad car wreck and suffered some brain damage. She reacts like that to unexpected stimuli.



She also has the following trait. Sometimes she exhibits the
behavior of someone very drunk after only a couple of drinks. Not
always, sometimes. Random.

Posted by: Hildepockets at August 19, 2016 01:33 AM (ZXR6+)

One of the actually useful training items you are forced to go through in the military involves Traumatic Brain Injury. Here's a little bit on the symptoms:
http://tinyurl.com/mnzqule

Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 01:40 AM (GUBah)

412 To put it another way, Hillary! exhibits symptoms of "mild" TBI.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 01:43 AM (GUBah)

413 Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 01:40 AM (GUBah)

Hmmmm,

Thanks.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 01:44 AM (ZXR6+)

414 Goodnight everybody. Happy weekend and thanks for the great chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at August 19, 2016 01:46 AM (OKox0)

415 Speaking of DIY, I am about finished my wiring job on the '73 Super Beetle. All exterior lamps are functional now, as are all the dash lamps and indicators. I found a DPDT relay, and wired it such that the oil pressure switch on the engine gives a ground to the relay coil when the engine is not running. One set of contacts on this relay feeds the oil pressure warning lamp in the cluster, so it acts as it did before, to warn of oil pressure failure. The other set of contacts in the relay supplies 12 volts to the yet-to-be-installed electric fuel pump, so that the fuel pump will not run if the engine has no oil pressure. Such a provision is standard on modern cars with electric pumps as a safety measure, so the pump will stop pumping gasoline if the car is in a wreck. As a fillip, I took the "Fasten Seat Belt" warning lamp, which had long been non-working due to lack of seat switches, and simply connected it parallel with the oil pressure warning lamp. So it will illuminate when the key is turned on, and go out once the engine starts. Not that it is needed, mind you, since I use my seat belts out of habit, but it's there in the dash, and making it work pleases me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 01:49 AM (oqkO3)

416 good night.

Posted by: thank you ace at August 19, 2016 01:50 AM (j6qoi)

417 AOP: Hard on Equipment. Thanks, that was a hoot.

I've known more than a couple who were hard on equipment. And the line about greasy tools.

That was a source of friction between dear old Dad and I. He thinks that worrying about keeping things clean while working is just superfluous. And I cannot stand to have a greasy tool in my hand.

Now, grease guns. I actually bought my own grease gun and hid it from him, because he would get grease all over it, and himself. I couldn't stand to pick it up.

And he'd get pissed at me when he'd see me get a rag and clean off a tool he had just used.

He's not accident prone, he just doesn't care about grease and dirt and thinks it's silly and dandified to do so.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 19, 2016 01:56 AM (DW+jj)

418 The Maetenblog has no new content since 8/16. I hope he is enjoying the everlasting fuck out of his vacation/retirement -- he well-deserves it after having soldiered-on providing hundreds and hundreds of ONTs with awesome content, while also guarding them from snaky evil malware and trolls in the small hours of the morning.



Maet had to personally rejigger the code for TB3K to put a lid on Ira -- that's not a skillset that is easy to find.



I think that ONT's should have a Maetenloch plaque mounted near the top. Not quite a flaming skull, but a marker.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 01:56 AM (EzgxV)

419 AOP- I once recounted here cursing a generator that would not start. Checking every thing twice, pulled plug to check ignition, and only got one very weak spark, but was not surprised by that, as it was a recoil starter and difficult to observe the gap while yanking on the starter.

Somewhere in there a little bulb went off in my head reminding me that I *might* have drained the oil after last use, and not refilled on account of being unsure of whether it would be winter temps or summer temps when used again.

Checked the sump, yep. Empty. That's when I checked the manual, and sure enough, it had a low oil shut-down.

So, all of the time I am cursing the SOB, it is busy saving me from myself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 02:08 AM (RrDm2)

420 Hard on equipment- had a friend who, while working, if he was through with a tool, he would just drop it on the concrete floor when he reached for something else. Drove me crazy to watch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 02:12 AM (RrDm2)

421 A little early for me but Good Morning Everyone. Can't wait to have regular net service back and not depend on these wifi hotspots.

Getting good signal right now but most of the time it blows.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 02:20 AM (T2v4p)

422 Back to Malena Morgan. Why in the hell is somebody that perfect, outside of talking like a partily deaf retarded person, not having kids. Why?!?! She is literally flawless.

Why are so many beautiful women refusing to have babies? They get tattoos but refuse to committed to children. This is very flawed on so many levels.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:23 AM (WqEER)

423 421 A little early for me but Good Morning Everyone. Can't wait to have regular net service back and not depend on these wifi hotspots.

Getting good signal right now but most of the time it blows.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 02:20 AM (T2v4p

They know everything about you now Tim. EVERYTHING.

The hotspots are not safe.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:25 AM (WqEER)

424 238 Just imagine diarrhea in zero-g.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 18, 2016 11:37 PM (DW+jj)

Extra thrust.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 18, 2016 11:43 PM (SRKgf)


Now you've got me thinking about the fire extinguisher scene in Gravity.

She could have used diarrhea to fine-tune her maneuvers.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2016 02:26 AM (sdi6R)

425 DIY story from today, before I go to bed.

I just put a small fridge in my boat. I put it in the space under the stove. There was storage there, but I took off the doors, ripped out the 1 shelf, and used a zip saw to widen the hole by about an inch on two sides. Made a little platform for it to sit on and slid it right in. There's still some gaps around it, so I figured I'd just frame it out.

Went to home depot to buy some simple trim to make the frame. I figured out that I'd need 7 feet. Found some that would work, took it to the register, it rings up at $2.40/ft. "Uh, it's supposed to be $.97/ft". The cashier pages someone from lumber, and I say I'll meet him back there. Go back, see that the piece I had had been in the wrong slot, and the $.97 one was too narrow. Look around, find some other trim that's $1.40. About that time, the lumber guy arrives carrying the 1st piece of trim from the front. "My mistake" I tell him and grab the new trim.

Back to the cashier. She rings me up for 11 ft. Huh? Damn, I hadn't even looked, and I mean, come on, it's freaking OBVIOUS that it's 11 ft.

Back I troop to the lumber section, measure 7 ft, cut it on the little workbench they have for just that purpose, and back to the front.

Now the cashier is laughing (kindly) at me, and for some reason she discounts it to the .$97 price. I thank her, grin, and leave.

Go home, pull out the compound miter saw, and start measuring and cutting. Cut 1. good. Cut 2. great. Cut 3. perfect. Cut 4....hey, y'know, if I just flip the board I don't have to reset the saw between cuts. Cool!

This works fine for square wood, but notso hotso with beveled trim, which I have. And now I don't have enough to make 4 sides, and I wouldn't have a square, I'd have a ziz zag.

*sigh*

Back to HD, go back and grab what I need, get back up front and it's the same cashier. I shake the wood at her. "Know what this is?" "no" "It's the same 4' of wood that I swore I wouldn't need earlier, so I went back and cut it off!"

She laughs(kindly again), but gives it to me for $.97 again. Nice lady, I like her.

Rest of the cuts went fine, everything's square, I stained it no problem and I'm good to go. Tomorrow I'll install it.

That's about how most of my DIY projects go. I get them done, yea, but....

Posted by: Weirddave at August 19, 2016 02:27 AM (N8hFs)

426 422
Why are so many beautiful women refusing to have babies? They get tattoos but refuse to committed to children. This is very flawed on so many levels.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:23 AM (WqEER)


Somebody linked this article in an afternoon thread. I think you'll find the answer there.

https://tinyurl.com/pmsfbsw

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2016 02:32 AM (sdi6R)

427 Posted by: Weirddave at August 19, 2016 02:27 AM (N8hFs)


The important question here is, "Hey, Mr. 1%, what kind of boat do you have that you can put that big of a reefer on it?"

Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 02:34 AM (GUBah)

428 The hotspots are not safe.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:25 AM (WqEER)

This computer is going into the Vermillion River once I get my regular service back. There is absolutely nothing on it except FF and some maps.

Still I want to be safe just in case this thing becomes self aware.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 02:35 AM (T2v4p)

429 425 DIY story from today, before I go to bed.

I just put a small fridge in my boat. I put it in the space under the stove. There was storage there, but I took off the doors, ripped out the 1 shelf, and used a zip saw to widen the hole by about an inch on two sides. Made a little platform for it to sit on and slid it right in. There's still some gaps around it, so I figured I'd just frame it out.

Went to home depot to buy some simple trim to make the frame. I figured out that I'd need 7 feet. Found some that would work, took it to the register, it rings up at $2.40/ft. "Uh, it's supposed to be $.97/ft". The cashier pages someone from lumber, and I say I'll meet him back there. Go back, see that the piece I had had been in the wrong slot, and the $.97 one was too narrow. Look around, find some other trim that's $1.40. About that time, the lumber guy arrives carrying the 1st piece of trim from the front. "My mistake" I tell him and grab the new trim.

Back to the cashier. She rings me up for 11 ft. Huh? Damn, I hadn't even looked, and I mean, come on, it's freaking OBVIOUS that it's 11 ft.

Back I troop to the lumber section, measure 7 ft, cut it on the little workbench they have for just that purpose, and back to the front.

Now the cashier is laughing (kindly) at me, and for some reason she discounts it to the .$97 price. I thank her, grin, and leave.

Go home, pull out the compound miter saw, and start measuring and cutting. Cut 1. good. Cut 2. great. Cut 3. perfect. Cut 4....hey, y'know, if I just flip the board I don't have to reset the saw between cuts. Cool!

This works fine for square wood, but notso hotso with beveled trim, which I have. And now I don't have enough to make 4 sides, and I wouldn't have a square, I'd have a ziz zag.

*sigh*

Back to HD, go back and grab what I need, get back up front and it's the same cashier. I shake the wood at her. "Know what this is?" "no" "It's the same 4' of wood that I swore I wouldn't need earlier, so I went back and cut it off!"

She laughs(kindly again), but gives it to me for $.97 again. Nice lady, I like her.

Rest of the cuts went fine, everything's square, I stained it no problem and I'm good to go. Tomorrow I'll install it.

That's about how most of my DIY projects go. I get them done, yea, but....
Posted by: Weirddave at August 19, 2016 02:27 AM (N8hFs

I was reading this thinking it led to boobs or something at the end for a reward for the hard work.

DIY projects when completed deserve a reward.

Men should go on strike.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:36 AM (WqEER)

430 423
421 A little early for me but Good Morning Everyone. Can't wait to have
regular net service back and not depend on these wifi hotspots.



Getting good signal right now but most of the time it blows.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 02:20 AM (T2v4p



They know everything about you now Tim. EVERYTHING.



The hotspots are not safe.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:25 AM (WqEER)


I've got to say that da pr0n I get generically served tends toward droopy older chicks with unhappy scowls and tats being drilled by uninterested 'roid-bent weightlifters....I'd rather read the front page of the NYT. Is that really what the various corporate panopticons see in me? They don't see how someone like Cake Girl -- delighted to be with someone -- is infinitely more appealing???


I've gotten so I just don't chase secondary links.....

Posted by: cthulhu at August 19, 2016 02:38 AM (EzgxV)

431 This computer is going into the Vermillion River once I get my regular service back. There is absolutely nothing on it except FF and some maps.

Still I want to be safe just in case this thing becomes self aware.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 02:35 AM (

It is self aware, we are not.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:39 AM (WqEER)

432 Somebody linked this article in an afternoon thread. I think you'll find the answer there.



https://tinyurl.com/pmsfbsw

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2016 02:32 AM (sdi6R)


OK, I'm not that far in and the first question I have for liberals is, "Please tell me what is the existential difference between a "consciousness-raising-group" and "raising awareness"?

Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 02:41 AM (GUBah)

433 Why are so many beautiful women refusing to have babies? They get tattoos but refuse to committed to children. This is very flawed on so many levels.
---

Perhaps they are simply terrified of the future. The world is a scary place and is changing rapidly. Children born now might end up in a world ruled by Islam. Or a world with one government. Or a world where they will lead a third world existence in America.

If these women don't feel good about their own future, how can they in good conscience bring another life into the world?

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 19, 2016 02:42 AM (tvyXw)

434 little bill....

Posted by: it's the bad man song at August 19, 2016 02:45 AM (j6qoi)

435 If these women don't feel good about their own future, how can they in good conscience bring another life into the world?


Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 19, 2016 02:42 AM (tvyXw)



Or, it could just be that they aren't thinking beyond next week and don't want any "burdens" on their party lifestyle.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 02:45 AM (GUBah)

436 426 422
Why are so many beautiful women refusing to have babies? They get tattoos but refuse to committed to children. This is very flawed on so many levels.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:23 AM (WqEER)

Somebody linked this article in an afternoon thread. I think you'll find the answer there.

https://tinyurl.com/pmsfbsw
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2016 02:32 AM (sdi6R)

rickl, thanks for the link. It gave me the sadz and I felt like the tattooed lady with a scowling face while getting drilled by the steroid gym rat on a dirty porn.As Cooth laid out a few spots above.

We are getting boned in other words.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:54 AM (WqEER)

437 Hey Kids


waddit I miss?

Posted by: jc at August 19, 2016 02:55 AM (iRJ+A)

438 One good thing about not being connected? You are not connected. Way too much doom and gloom out here and if it doesn't effect you, you are lucky.

I'll survive not reading Ace or CTH or Drudge oe even reading my mail.

Good to take breaks like this. Refreshes the mind.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 02:55 AM (T2v4p)

439 anybody see this article today?


http://judgybitch.com/ 2016/08/16/ reblog-research-find-that-as-a- group-only-men-pay-tax/

Posted by: jc at August 19, 2016 02:58 AM (iRJ+A)

440 waddit I miss?

I miss my uncle's root beer floats.

One of those little hole in the wall food manufactures that got bought up by somebody 20 + years ago.

Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 02:58 AM (AoK0a)

441 433 Why are so many beautiful women refusing to have babies? They get tattoos but refuse to committed to children. This is very flawed on so many levels.
---

Perhaps they are simply terrified of the future. The world is a scary place and is changing rapidly. Children born now might end up in a world ruled by Islam. Or a world with one government. Or a world where they will lead a third world existence in America.

If these women don't feel good about their own future, how can they in good conscience bring another life into the world?
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at August 19, 2016 02:42 AM (tvyXw

Don't they know that they will be forced to have babies with the hordes of Islam to carry their future jihadists in their wombs. And the Chinese Army is pretty motivated by rape babies in America as well.

Point is future would be better if they woke up and realized they have been lied to and start making babies with Americans and chilling the fuck out with the destruction of the patriarchy BS.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:59 AM (WqEER)

442 I miss my uncle's root beer floats.



One of those little hole in the wall food manufactures that got bought up by somebody 20 + years ago.

Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 02:58 AM (AoK0a)

====Hey There. How are things with you?

Posted by: jc at August 19, 2016 03:01 AM (iRJ+A)

443 438 One good thing about not being connected? You are not connected. Way too much doom and gloom out here and if it doesn't effect you, you are lucky.

I'll survive not reading Ace or CTH or Drudge oe even reading my mail.

Good to take breaks like this. Refreshes the mind.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 02:55 AM (T2v4p

True dat, Tim. I have a phobia of the mail. It is my only irrational fear I have, it is the mail. I don't do mail, yet it still comes, which is why I fear it.

I go months without checking the mailbox and only to empty it. If it's important I figure a officer of the law will deliver it or a person will send it certified.

Hate.The.Mail.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 03:04 AM (WqEER)

444 Point is future would be better if they woke up and
realized they have been lied to and start making babies with Americans
and chilling the fuck out with the destruction of the patriarchy BS.



Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 02:59 AM (WqEER)

=====strange but like likely true -- those women have succeeded in emasculating their men -- which means they have lost respect for those men -- which means their biology will tell them to breed with their conquerors (the victors) because the victors will be more masculine.
No, I don't think women like that would even understand their own behavior because one of the things they deny is the reality of basic biology.

Posted by: jc at August 19, 2016 03:06 AM (iRJ+A)

445 ====Hey There. How are things with you?

Been less acrobatic. Painting kitchen wall & tripping over various piles of stuff as we move from wall to wall.

Went to vacuum the dust off of the skil saw & kicked the dinging thing with bare feet. Toe still hurts.

You?

Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 03:09 AM (AoK0a)

446 Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 03:04 AM (WqEER)

I have an old yahoo mail account that I havent used in ages. Last time I checked there were over 350K spam mails in there.

You would think that after so long, yahoo would close abandoned accounts.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 03:10 AM (T2v4p)

447 Ummmm....... Root Beer Float. Ummm.......

Darn diabetes anyway.

Most of the good stuff is gone.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 03:11 AM (T2v4p)

448 You?



Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 03:09 AM (AoK0a)

====I'm a busy character. Things are going pretty good, but hectic. As it should be.

Posted by: jc at August 19, 2016 03:12 AM (iRJ+A)

449 OK, some good news (at least for me) before I head to bed: had an appointment with the cardiologist today. I'm being taken off the Plavix and as long as I keep losing the weight and my numbers stay good, I may be off the Coreg and Lipitor in the next six months as well, leaving me only on a maintenance dose of aspirin.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 03:13 AM (GUBah)

450 "Gingham Peach"

We were finishing up some patchwork on the wall during prep & the hubby picked up a crowbar & exclaimed "you realize that yellow is the same color as this (DeWalt) crowbar!?!"

Oy.

The part we have finished looks much less ... harsh ...

Ceiling and south & west walls will be white.

: -))
I'm sure there are people for whom DeWalt yellow is a go to color. Just not us ...

Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 03:15 AM (AoK0a)

451 Country Singer - mucho good news!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 03:17 AM (AoK0a)

452 anyone got thoughts on a good scope for an AR-30A1 in 338 Lapua?

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2016 03:22 AM (sUQ21)

453 450
Ceiling and south & west walls will be white.
Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 03:15 AM (AoK0a)


So painting one wall a different color is a thing now? The way I was raised, the ceiling is always white and all of the walls are the same color, whatever that is.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2016 03:23 AM (sdi6R)

454 Or, it could just be that they aren't thinking beyond next week and don't want any "burdens" on their party lifestyle.
Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 02:45 AM (GUBah)

The one's I know don't have time for children--too busy with building a business, yoga, trips around the world. What they don't realize is that their parents did all that and still had kids. By the time they see that they should have had a family, it is far too late. Feminists lied to them when they said they could have it all, so now they choose the thinnest, weakest part and leave the real good stuff alone.

Women are not too smart, as a group. I should know. I'm one of them. But, I have a kid. So, there's that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 19, 2016 03:25 AM (+YMhA)

455 or one for an M99 in 416 Barrett?


Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2016 03:26 AM (sUQ21)

456 Ace of Spades, 2004 Aug 19
Bear Drinks 36 Beers; Passes Out
with the
Top Ten Signs a Bear May Be Drunk
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/041971.php

*

Just passing by on the way to bed 'way late, and thought I'd drop that here instead of simply breaking out of lurkdom to say...

Good night, Gracies!

Posted by: mindful webworker - history is calling at August 19, 2016 03:29 AM (dkrmM)

457 So painting one wall a different color is a thing now? The way I was raised, the ceiling is always white and all of the walls are the same color, whatever that is.

Been doing accent walls since I owned in stead of rented, but in this case...

The south wall of the kitchen has the open arch that leads into the addition, with the family room inline.

The East and south walls of the family room will be painted white ... some day. They are presently picture window on steroid walls & we hope to reduce the windows as the summer heat is miserable.

The west wall of the kitchen opens into an interior hallway and we are painting that white next week. It is now a "sand" or off-white & it always looks dirty & dingy.

So the white just telescopes into the next part of the house on those 2 sides...

Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 03:39 AM (AoK0a)

458 "Accent walls" is a new concept to me. How do you decide which wall is to be painted a different color?

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2016 03:46 AM (sdi6R)

459 No rules.

In the blue room, 3 walls have some sort of break for a door or window. They are 2 tone gray. The 4th wall - ha - is one of the narrow walls & it is a deep blue. The ceiling is white.

In the old master bedroom the south and west walls were beige & the north & east walls were off white, but the north wall had a little cubby-hole that we had the dresser / mirror set back in. It was magenta wash (i.e. not a solid color - different amounts of magenta paint & water sponged on fairly randomly). Saw the color combo in a magazine & thought they went well together...

Magenta is a strong color, but you only see a little "peeking" out behind the dresser / mirror. If there were any more, I'd have to wear sunglasses indoors.
: -))

Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 03:59 AM (AoK0a)

460 "Accent walls" is a new concept to me. How do you decide which wall is to be painted a different color?

Accent walls is one of those "gay" things that actually works, like putting pineapple on pizza.

Posted by: eleven at August 19, 2016 04:00 AM (qUNWi)

461 >>>I'm sure there are people for whom DeWalt yellow is a go to color. Just not us ...

Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 03:15 AM (AoK0a)<<<

Sounds perfect for Friday's morning art thread!

Posted by: Dora Wheeler, Slash, some chick in a yellow dress, and some yellow horses at August 19, 2016 04:01 AM (H9MG5)

462 Yellow must be used very conservatively.

It works but only if it's..."just right".

Posted by: eleven at August 19, 2016 04:02 AM (qUNWi)

463 I should say "judiciously" rather than "conservatively."

Posted by: eleven at August 19, 2016 04:03 AM (qUNWi)

464 That's it I'm done. You'all can carry on.

Just popping in.

Posted by: eleven at August 19, 2016 04:05 AM (qUNWi)

465 In the new, old house master bedroom, no accent wall: 4 sage green walls & white ceiling.

The only way into the bedroom (unless you break a window) is through the family room, so the west & north wall of the family room will be the same green as the master bedroom. Again, sort of a telescoping effect. As you look in that direction, you see different walls with the same color...

Posted by: Adriane the Root Beer Critic ... at August 19, 2016 04:08 AM (AoK0a)

466 462 Yellow must be used very conservatively.
Posted by: eleven at August 19, 2016 04:02 AM (qUNWi)


Not in the art threads it isn't.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2016 04:17 AM (sdi6R)

467 I've fixed a few of those correspondent through the ceilings, but mostly its plumbers.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2016 04:24 AM (bksJQ)

468 OK, I'm going back to bed. Thanks for your explanation, Adriane. I'm sure it makes sense to someone who has a grasp of aesthetics.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2016 04:25 AM (sdi6R)

469 Accent walls are fine, designers are using them everywhere in offices. But I draw the line on pineapple on pizza.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2016 04:44 AM (bksJQ)

470 Sadly the tale of modern home appliances. When I was growing up, and even to some extent when I first got out of the navy and was out on my own home appliances like washers, dryers, and refers were like tanks. They were big, ugly, heavy, mechanical monsters that were reliable as hell. Didn't have many bells and whistles but what it did have worked.


Now they are all unreliable shit. And DIY? Hell no, even if you could find the parts locally servicing them is damn near impossible. When my original Kenmore washer went bad after about 15 years wifey wanted to replace both the washer and dryer. The next two failed after 5 years. Research through Internet sources told me that there are no "good" ones anymore unless you get a super expensive one actually made in Japan.


So I no longer even try for quality. I get the cheapest thing I can find and have adapted the "throw-away" mode which the eco-nazis so deplore. And now my refrigerator is slowly collapsing one piece at a time and based on what happened to my older brother, there isn't any of them worth a crap anymore unless you buy a super expensive commercial grade appliance.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 05:27 AM (mpXpK)

471
*cough-cough-cough-cough,, fart/squirt-cough-cough,, cough*

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 19, 2016 05:30 AM (5SyvP)

472 'Morning, horde.

"Flinty heart and smelly feet". That was harsh, krak. I wouldn't let him swim in my pool any more, if I were you.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 05:50 AM (eXCbD)

473 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 05:27 AM (mpXpK)

*** The first GE refrigerator Dad bought...in 1950...was still going strong when we gave it away...in 2002.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 05:52 AM (eXCbD)

474 After 31 years of marriage and 29 years of home ownership, DIY is a concept we still struggle with. My part of the struggle was to learn to live with and walk around the disassembled washing machine in the middle of the den on my way to the laundromat. We have finally reached the part in the learning curve where it is easier to either hire someone or buy a new one. Except for the garbage disposal. I have been instructed that I am to dispose of everything in the trash bin before using the disposal. Because we are not going to go through that again...

Posted by: Usedtocould at August 19, 2016 05:53 AM (VCqKl)

475 And now my refrigerator is slowly collapsing one piece at a time and based on what happened to my older brother, there isn't any of them worth a crap anymore unless you buy a super expensive commercial grade appliance. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 05:27 AM (mpXpK)

I have a two year old Samsung frig I bought at Lowe's for under a grand. Super energy efficient. It will pay for itself in energy efficiency alone in four years. Energy efficiency I saw on lower electric bill, not the govmint sticker.

So, if you look at it from that perspective alone it makes sense to dump the dinosaur refrigerator.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 05:54 AM (ZnIt3)

476 Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 03:13 AM (GUBah)

Now that there is some really good news.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 05:54 AM (eXCbD)

477 475 I have a two year old Samsung frig I bought at
Lowe's for under a grand. Super energy efficient. It will pay for itself
in energy efficiency alone in four years. Energy efficiency I saw on
lower electric bill, not the govmint sticker.



So, if you look at it from that perspective alone it makes sense to dump the dinosaur refrigerator.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 05:54 AM (ZnIt3)

But will it last 20+ years?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

478 Good Morning Morons. Today is Friday, August 19, 2016. On this day in 1692 in Salem, Province of Massachusetts Bay, five people, one woman and four men, including a clergyman, were executed by hanging after being convicted of witchcraft.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

479 Obama's designated liar said yesterday that, indeed, the $400M was payment contingent on releasing the US hostages, but it wasn't a ransom. Now how's that for double-talk. Incredible that they can say wildly stupid crap like this and are not laughed out of the room.


http://tinyurl.com/j68dsq7

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

480 You know that stupid bulb that always burns out Inside old refrigerators? Not anymore. All led's that should last 25 years.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 05:59 AM (ZnIt3)

481 Republican FEC members are warning that once again the corrupt Democrats on the FEC are trying to regulate political speech on the Internet. The Internet is the last piece of public communication that the Democrats do not have in their back pocket and they want it. They will keep trying until they get it too. There should be a way to remove this corrupt commission from appointment by anyone in Washington and given to the States. Or better yet, eliminate them entirely.


http://tinyurl.com/j4u4qbd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

482 Those two US swimmers have been indicted in Brazil for making false charges.


http://tinyurl.com/gotzy5e

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

483 Zika is spreading in Miami even more. Two problems here open borders allowing people from the contaminated areas to enter the country and the still lasting insane ban on DDT.


http://tinyurl.com/j8astol

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

484 Obama's "refugees" are lawyering up and suing now. They say the schools they are being sent to in PA are inadequate. They are represented by out friends in the ACLU. I say if they loose make the ACLU and Obama "personally" pay all legal costs. And one other thing, send them all back to their country of origin and tell them they may seek the fine schools there.


http://tinyurl.com/jcxqtj2

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

485 Trump apologizes for "some" of the remarks he has made about Hispanics. He should not do this as the corrupt Democrats will just use it to attack him. But take note you new name astroturfing Scankles trolls, he is not walking back his opposition to amnesty and open borders.


http://tinyurl.com/jp36s4m

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

486 Obama has succeeded in stacking the immigration courts with open border liberals and the public has not heard a peep about this from the MFM but it is coming out now.


http://tinyurl.com/jct3joy

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

487 Travel magazine rates the most unfriendly cities in the US. Leading out the top nasties here all of them are in blue States and they are heavy Democrat oppressed areas. So what was the friendliest city? Charleston, SC. On a side note here I have figured out what is making Fox's web site virtually unusable now and it is not auto-play videos which I have blocked. It is their articles in "features and faces" which somehow have been rigged to cycle in and out automatically and each time one of them changes it resets the page which then reloads.


http://tinyurl.com/jl5js96

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

488 Soros hacks reveals that he tried to buy enough lawyers to go before the Supremes on Obama's illegal amnesty case to influence the court ruling.


http://tinyurl.com/z3jtcqw

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

489 Scankles told the FBI that Colon Powel told her to use private e-mail. Another obvious lie. Wasn't that what they sent Martha Stewart to jail for?


http://tinyurl.com/zsdrcjm

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

490 Baltimore cover-up. 80% more drugs taken from Baltimore Pharmacies than what was reported. Was this due to the corrupt MFM or the corrupt city government?


http://tinyurl.com/zfgn37p

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

491 Everything is racism to professional race baiters. Even misbehaving Olympic athletes.


http://tinyurl.com/z64r6zs

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

492 Liberal Democrat rag WaPo wants you to get rid of your A/C to save the planet from the AGW myth. I say shut down your BS rag and save energy instead.


http://tinyurl.com/z2bmcdt

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

493 Obamanite thug spits in Native American's face and beats him savagely because he was wearing a Washington Redskins sweater.


http://tinyurl.com/hhpvwc5

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

494 Gun grabbers use everything in their power to further their aim to disarm the American public in violation of the Constitution. Now they want guns confiscated from elderly Americans. And Obama has already taken steps in that direction.


http://tinyurl.com/jupjrd6

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

495 Health insurance rates are going through the roof again next year thanks to Obmacare. Isn't it wonderful to pay this tax?


http://tinyurl.com/zao75cv

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

496 Heritage asks what's wrong with Obama new rules for all trucks big and small. Why ask what? Everything about it is wrong.


http://tinyurl.com/hcg6o5r

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

497 Heritage identifies even more cases of vote fraud.


http://tinyurl.com/h5g7kdt

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

498 IBD reveals what killed Radio Shack and you will not believe this crap. It was China and the UN control of international, and yes local, postal rates for shipping. I bet you did not know that the UN sets US postal rates for packages shipped in from other countries did you.


http://tinyurl.com/htlwuwa

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

499 Ramirez


http://tinyurl.com/h66oy9k


That's it for today folks. Folks, I will be hitting the road in a few hours for GA. Will be back Sunday afternoon. So there will be no VNN Saturday or Sunday morning. No cell phone or Internet service where I am going.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

500 Republican FEC members are warning that once again the corrupt Democrats on the FEC are trying to regulate political speech on the Internet. The Internet is the last piece of public communication that the Democrats do not have in their back pocket and they want it. They will keep trying until they get it too. There should be a way to remove this corrupt commission from appointment by anyone in Washington and given to the States. Or better yet, eliminate them entirely. 


In my first one hundred days in office I intend to increase their regulatory power. There is a vast right wing conspiracy on the internet. People who are pretending to be someone who they are not. People who speak out against the government. This has to end.

Posted by: Hilarity Clinton at August 19, 2016 06:04 AM (ZnIt3)

501 >>>here should be a way to remove this corrupt
commission from appointment by anyone in Washington and given to the
States. Or better yet, eliminate them entirely.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)<<<




If only we had a special power... some super ability to cut off funding for such things.


Bah... that's crazy talk.

Posted by: Congress at August 19, 2016 06:05 AM (H9MG5)

502 My Medicare supplement now costs as much as my full coverage used to before I retired.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:07 AM (eXCbD)

503
Been married all my life (got married at 18, it's been over 32 yrs now), bought a house right out of the gate. After 10 yrs or so, rented it out moved out of state for work, bought another house there. eventually sold first house and put profit down against loan on second house. Moved back after ~ 19 yrs, built a new home with low maintenance in mind. Oh and paid cash for it too. I can attest that with all the home ownership problems, in the long run it's still the best way to go.

Posted by: Kudzu King at August 19, 2016 06:07 AM (5SyvP)

504 "No cell phone or Internet service where I am going."

Wow! You found the map to Paradise!

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:08 AM (eXCbD)

505 >>>Everything is racism to professional race baiters. Even misbehaving Olympic athletes.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)<<<



When everyone is super racist, no one will be.

Posted by: Syndrome at August 19, 2016 06:10 AM (H9MG5)

506 Posted by: Kudzu King at August 19, 2016 06:07 AM (5SyvP)

Thank you for that. I'm about to buy a home for the first time solo. Scares the sgut out of me but I'm really excited.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:10 AM (eXCbD)

507 But will it last 20+ years?Posted by: Vic We Have No Part

Posted by: Hila at August 19, 2016 06:12 AM (ZnIt3)

508 Ryan Lochte makes me so mad I could spit. From the comments I'm reading, I'm not alone. He might be better off going back to Brazil and facing the music there.

Dumbass got drunk and did stupid things. Ran out of money after paying for the damage and had to call Mommy for more. Lied to Mommy about being robbed. Mommy was the first to report it to the police. Poor Ryan got trapped in his own web of lies.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:13 AM (eXCbD)

509 But will it last 20+ years?Posted by: Vic

Don't care. If it lasts 10 years it will have cost me less than $100 per year while saving $400 per year in electric. Early for math, but that seems like a good deal.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 06:15 AM (ZnIt3)

510 502
My Medicare supplement now costs as much as my full coverage used to before I retired.


Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:07 AM (eXCbD)

Mine too. In fact, my original healthcare with my old company I had to payments at all and no copay. Before I turned 65 my medial insurance was running about $5,000 a year not counting the company contributions and I had big copays on everything.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:18 AM (mpXpK)

511 504
"No cell phone or Internet service where I am going."

Wow! You found the map to Paradise!


Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:08 AM (eXCbD)

Actually having no phone coverage is a PITA. I have to walk up a hill down the road to get cell phone coverage.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:20 AM (mpXpK)

512 Vic, I stumbled across a Medicare supplemental policy that has NO copays, no minimums, no nothing. They swore when I took it out I would never pay a cent for medical expenses. For two years they've been right. $150/mo. isn't bad for that level of coverage.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:24 AM (eXCbD)

513 Ryan Lochte makes me so mad I could spit. From the comments I'm reading, I'm not alone. He might be better off going back to Brazil and facing the music there.

Dumbass got drunk and did stupid things. Ran out of money after paying for the damage and had to call Mommy for more. Lied to Mommy about being robbed. Mommy was the first to report it to the police. Poor Ryan got trapped in his own web of lies.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:13 AM (eXCbD)


Meh. I don't imagine he thought his mother would report it - obviously. Just bad luck and getting stuck in an awful situation. I'm not sure why he didn't just tell the cops the real story ... but it's not as if he tarnished the reputation of a country whose cops proudly warned everyone before the games that they weren't going to be on the job and you come at your own risk.

I make this out to be a big nothingburger.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:24 AM (zc3Db)

514 Is Sigouney Weaver talking about K street?

Posted by: Yuimetal at August 19, 2016 06:25 AM (mL2BD)

515 There are a lot of cell phone signal boosters on Amazon, Vic. Do you know if they work?

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:26 AM (eXCbD)

516 Actually having no phone coverage is a PITA. I have to walk up a hill down the road to get cell phone coverage.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:20 AM (mpXpK)


LOL. So you're now in the same phone situation that people were in back around the turn of the century.

I used to live in a place where there was a dead cell spot in my apartment and I had to walk outside about 20 yards to get a signal.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:26 AM (zc3Db)

517 509 Don't care. If it lasts 10 years it will have cost
me less than $100 per year while saving $400 per year in electric. Early
for math, but that seems like a good deal.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 06:15 AM (ZnIt3)

I find it hard to believe that you are saving $400 a year in electricity on a refer unless your old one was a real POS. No refer draws that much current to begin with. The biggest loads in your house are the A/C and the hot water heater. The dryer and stove draw a lot of current but they are used so infrequently that they don't amount to much over a month.

My old refrigerator that I moved out to the pool shed stayed plugged in an on all the time. During the Winter when the pool was shutdown and the only power use was the pole light and the refer my electricity bill was only about $15/month and that was at a commercial rate of 10 cents/kw. The light was a 300W incandescent too.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:27 AM (mpXpK)

518 Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 06:27 AM (Ozsfq)

519 I make this out to be a big nothingburger.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:24 AM (zc3Db)
Unfortunately, the Brazilians don't. They indicted two of the swimmers.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:28 AM (eXCbD)

520 The biggest loads in your house are the A/C and the hot water heater. The dryer and stove draw a lot of current but they are used so infrequently that they don't amount to much over a month.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:27 AM (mpXpK)


Blow dryers are pretty huge draws, too ... but unless you have someone with really big hair they aren't used all that much.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:28 AM (zc3Db)

521 On the Lochte link, one of the commenters mentioned that his mother is Cuban of African descent.
So I think he may not only have the White Privilege, he has the super White Hispanic Privilege.

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2016 06:28 AM (8ikIW)

522 In case anyone's wondering about Tim in Illinois, he's fine. Says no net service right now.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:29 AM (eXCbD)

523 Unfortunately, the Brazilians don't. They indicted two of the swimmers.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:28 AM (eXCbD)


Brazil just wants the world to have no doubts about its "shithole" status.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:29 AM (zc3Db)

524 512
Vic, I stumbled across a Medicare supplemental policy that has NO
copays, no minimums, no nothing. They swore when I took it out I would
never pay a cent for medical expenses. For two years they've been right.
$150/mo. isn't bad for that level of coverage.


Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:24 AM (eXCbD)

My supplement has no copays for medical and once I hit $365 out of pocket I will have no copays for drugs. But I am still paying for medical for wife. She hasn't hit 65 yet.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:30 AM (mpXpK)

525 I used to live in a place where there was a dead cell spot in my apartment and I had to walk outside about 20 yards to get a signal.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:26 AM (zc3Db)
________________________________

I've got a trailer house on the Tennessee river (camping out/weekend party spot) and the only cell signal is just off the front poarch, leaning over the rail by the steps. Strange...

Posted by: Kudzu King at August 19, 2016 06:30 AM (5SyvP)

526 I've got a trailer house on the Tennessee river (camping out/weekend party spot) and the only cell signal is just off the front poarch, leaning over the rail by the steps. Strange...

Posted by: Kudzu King at August 19, 2016 06:30 AM (5SyvP)


Kin of takes you back to the days of rabbit ears on the TV and having to have them positioned juuuust riiight ... and no one moving.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:32 AM (zc3Db)

527 I've got a trailer house on the Tennessee river
(camping out/weekend party spot) and the only cell signal is just off
the front poarch, leaning over the rail by the steps. Strange...





Posted by: Kudzu King

Ha. My buddy has a lake house by Hayward, Wi. You get a cell signal doing the same type of thing. We call it the cell phone hokie pokie

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2016 06:32 AM (8ikIW)

528 515
There are a lot of cell phone signal boosters on Amazon, Vic. Do you know if they work?


Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:26 AM (eXCbD)

What would probably work would be getting a repeater and mounting up in the top of a tree about 50 foot above the ground. But that is a LOT of trouble due to having to run power up the tree. And my "tree climbing" days have long passed.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:32 AM (mpXpK)

529 Kin of takes you back to the days of rabbit ears on
the TV and having to have them positioned juuuust riiight ... and no one
moving.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

And tin foil on the end of the ears

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2016 06:33 AM (8ikIW)

530 This house is actually a house-within-a-house. The original cottage was limestone block construction. When you're in the old part of the house, within those limestone walls, there isn't even a hint of a ghost of a tower.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:33 AM (eXCbD)

531 520 Blow dryers are pretty huge draws, too ... but unless you have someone with really big hair they aren't used all that much.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:28 AM (zc3Db)

I don't own a blow dryer. Almost bald now anyway.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:35 AM (mpXpK)

532 Unfortunately, the Brazilians don't. They indicted two of the swimmers.
Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:28 AM (eXCbD)


Actually no. The Police suggested indictment, but no indictments have been brought yet. And Loche of course is back in the US and the other guy under "possible" indictment Feigen has agreed to donate $10,800 to a charity and be allowed to leave Brazil ( which under Brazilian Law is legal for minor crimes).

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 06:35 AM (Ozsfq)

533 And tin foil on the end of the ears

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2016 06:33 AM (8ikIW)


Heh.

I remember attaching all sorts of things ... and leaning books up against them, having to hold onto them ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:35 AM (zc3Db)

534 Ryan Lochte makes me so mad I could spit. From the comments I'm reading, I'm not alone. He might be better off going back to Brazil and facing the music there.

Dumbass got drunk and did stupid things.


What difference, at this point, does it make???

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 19, 2016 06:37 AM (mL2BD)

535 and the other guy under "possible" indictment Feigen has agreed to donate $10,800 to a charity and be allowed to leave Brazil ( which under Brazilian Law is legal for minor crimes).

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 06:35 AM (Ozsfq)


I hope he donates it to the "Fvck Brazil" charity.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 06:37 AM (zc3Db)

536 532 Actually no. The Police suggested indictment, but no
indictments have been brought yet. And Loche of course is back in the
US and the other guy under "possible" indictment Feigen has agreed to
donate $10,800 to a charity and be allowed to leave Brazil ( which under
Brazilian Law is legal for minor crimes).

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 06:35 AM (Ozsfq)

Actually yes, see the link above.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

537 I said above that two of the swimmers had been "indicted". That was a quote from a story I read earlier and now can't find. However, they have been released to return to the US after payment of a $10,000 "fine".

The law in Brazil works in strange and wondrous ways.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:38 AM (eXCbD)

538 Oh, oh! Was they any report from Chavez the hugo after his run to the doctor yesterday?

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:40 AM (eXCbD)

539 A senior Muslim cleric in Russia has suggested that universal female genital mutilation (FGM) would be a positive development, after a rights group released a report denouncing the practice earlier this week.
Female genital mutilation does not pose health risks and does not contradict the dogmas of Islam, said Mufti Ismail Berdiyev, the head of the North Caucasus Muslim Coordination Center.

Berdiyev said Wednesday that if FGM could be applied to all women, that would be very good. FGM does not stop women from fulfilling their ordained role of motherhood, he added, and if all women were circumcised, there would be less fornication.

Well less fornication, I am sure all left wingers are for that ha? Hey I got an idea, lets import more Muslims to the USA and also get pissie about Trump and work to elect more left wingers like The FAB. I mean what could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 06:41 AM (Ozsfq)

540 Actually yes, see the link above.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

Actually no, many of the reports are wrong

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 06:42 AM (Ozsfq)

541 Is it morning?

I must alert everyone on the intertubes that they are wrong!

Cuz they are.


BBL

Posted by: eleven at August 19, 2016 06:43 AM (qUNWi)

542 Whoa...wait. From Vic's news link: "Police in Rio de Janeiro Thursday indicted two Olympic swimmers..."

Police? POLICE??? Since when do police indict anyone.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:43 AM (eXCbD)

543 Whoa...wait. From Vic's news link: "Police in Rio de Janeiro Thursday indicted two Olympic swimmers..."

Police? POLICE??? Since when do police indict anyone.
Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:43 AM (eXCbD)

they don't, which is why much of the reporting from RIO is wrong. I 'suspect" Loche may be indicted at some point since he fled the Country, unless he also forward a "donation", a very sizable one to some Charity? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 06:46 AM (Ozsfq)

544 Here's my favorite part of the Lyin' Ryan, Ver. 2.0 story:

"They told the other swimmers to get down on the ground, they got down on the ground. I refused. I was like, "We didn't do anything wrong so I'm not getting down on the ground." And then the guy pulled out his gun, he cocked it, put it to my forehead and said "get down." I was like, I put my hands up. I was like "whatever." He took our money, he took my wallet."

And I was like, whateva, dudes. I'm from America, and I was like stuck up 12 times in the last month, dudes. We get stuck up for breakfast, like just to get our blood flowin'.

*swallows a handful of bullets, shits razor wire*

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 19, 2016 06:48 AM (gyKtp)

545 Hillary Clinton told FBI investigators last month that Gen. Colin Powell, her predecessor as secretary of state, suggested that she use a personal email account for State Department business.

That is the 3 year olds gambit: " He made me do it" while pointing at his older brother! LMAO

And we are losing to this Bitch? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 06:48 AM (Ozsfq)

546 they don't, which is why much of the reporting from
RIO is wrong. I 'suspect" Loche may be indicted at some point since he
fled the Country, unless he also forward a "donation", a very sizable
one to some Charity? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Jesse Jackson wakes up. Ears alert.

To The Internet!!

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2016 06:49 AM (8ikIW)

547 If you watch the video of the swimmers walking onto the drive of the gas station carefully, you will see one of them try the door on the yellow car. Was grand theft auto on their program as well?

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:49 AM (eXCbD)

548 540
Actually yes, see the link above.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:38 AM (mpXpK)



Actually no, many of the reports are wrong

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 06:42 AM (Ozsfq)


The one above is from Fox. They initially reported a few days ago that they had recommended indictment. Now they are reporting they have been indicted.

If other sources are still reporting "recommended" how do we know they are accurate? Do you have some super secret source that is more reliable than Fox?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:50 AM (mpXpK)

549 I'm at perhaps a dangerous place emotionally. I have so much contempt for the world that I think Lochte's creative attempt to get out of a sticky situation is pretty funny.

Posted by: Yuimetal at August 19, 2016 06:50 AM (mL2BD)

550 I'm at perhaps a dangerous place emotionally. I have
so much contempt for the world that I think Lochte's creative attempt
to get out of a sticky situation is pretty funny.

Posted by: Yuimetal

Pbbhhhh. Amateurs

XOX
Shillary

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2016 06:52 AM (8ikIW)

551 When so much of the world is scummy, you need to recalibrate your intuitions as to what constitutes acceptable behavior. It's not like Lochte did something to the Amish.

Posted by: Yuimetal at August 19, 2016 06:55 AM (mL2BD)

552 If Lochte is to have any hope at all of coming out of this not completely covered in sgut he needs to stand up NOW and say this: "I'm sorry. I did a horrible thing. I was drunk and stupid. There is no excuse for my behavior. I apologize to the citizens of Brazil. the citizens of the United States and most importantly to the Olympic community. I was wrong and I beg your forgiveness."

But he won't.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:55 AM (eXCbD)

553 I was wrong and I beg your forgiveness."

Oh yeah, and I'm bisexual. And I may have been molested by one of my coaches when I was younger.....

Posted by: Bruce at August 19, 2016 07:00 AM (8ikIW)

554 The one above is from Fox. They initially reported a few days ago that they had recommended indictment. Now they are reporting they have been indicted.

If other sources are still reporting "recommended" how do we know they are accurate? Do you have some super secret source that is more reliable than Fox?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:50 AM (mpXpK)


Look I don't give a rat's ass about them and Fox often "borrows" other News sources like they all do. They have not been indicted by the Prosecutor no matter what the Police recommended.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 07:03 AM (Ozsfq)

555 Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 06:55 AM (eXCbD)

As long as Lochte ends it with, "but first you will blow me" then I'm with you.

Apologize to the citizens of Brazil? Puh-leeease. And he owes no apology to me or any other American. As to "the Olympic community" ... they can all take a flying leap. The "Olympic Community" could never see their way clear to spend even two minutes just faking a memorial to the Munich victims. They had time to bawl about other crap but for the terrorist hit on the Olympics .. they have been silent for almost 50 years running. Fuck them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:04 AM (zc3Db)

556 Thank you Vic. Great VNN.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 19, 2016 07:04 AM (u82oZ)

557 A Chabad hassid was stabbed on Friday afternoon by a Muslim man in Strasbourg, France.

Hatzalah volunteers called to the scene treated the wounded man, who was reportedly stabbed in the stomach, then transferred him to the hospital in moderate condition.

Police believe the stabbing was an antisemitic attack. One report indicates that the police have arrested the stabber, and brought him in for questioning.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 07:05 AM (Ozsfq)

558 You all know that soon terms like "handyman, fireman, policeman," are going to be outlawed. In a few years under Hillary, everyone will have to think carefully when they speak, not to break some stupid law and end up at a "fun camp".

Posted by: Colin at August 19, 2016 07:05 AM (tVUA+)

559 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:04 AM (zc3Db)

*** I'm fully aware of the infuriating response of the IOC to the Israeli attack in Munich.

How does that excuse Lochte?

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 07:07 AM (eXCbD)

560 508 Ryan Lochte makes me so mad I could spit. From the comments I'm reading, I'm not alone. He might be better off going back to Brazil and facing the music there.

Dumbass got drunk and did stupid things. Ran out of money after paying for the damage and had to call Mommy for more. Lied to Mommy about being robbed. Mommy was the first to report it to the police. Poor Ryan got trapped in his own web
of lies.

Hey Vic you will understand this. That is exactly how that kid from SC ended up on Oprah talking about his car being damaged by Lizardman awhile back. Lie to your mama and she believes you when no one else will.

Posted by: tmitsss at August 19, 2016 07:12 AM (wNJkU)

561 >>>499 Folks, I will be hitting the road in a few hours for GA. Will be back Sunday afternoon. So there will be no VNN Saturday or Sunday morning. No cell phone or Internet service where I am going.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 06:04 AM (mpXpK)<<<

But... But... There's always dial-up! C'mon, even *I* have an ancient laptop with a built-in 56k modem! There's always a way!

** feels onset of DTs **

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 19, 2016 07:12 AM (jV8Mq)

562 How does that excuse Lochte?

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 07:07 AM (eXCbD)


He doesn't need an excuse. He did a stupid thing and his mom got him into trouble. Okay. He didn't hurt anyone. He didn't besmirch the reputation of a shithole. He didn't make any allegations against any actual people. He doesn't need to apologize to anyone, mostly because he's lucky that he's back in the America (welll, the American Socialist Superstate, to be precise) now.

The Brazilians have every right to extort cash out of the guys who were unlucky enough to not get out of there. That's how they do things down there. That's the danger of traveling abroad to shitholes. They can do anything they want to you and if you give them half a reason then you have to face the consequences.

But the idea that Lochte needs to apologize to anyone is beyond the pale, so far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:12 AM (zc3Db)

563 But the idea that Lochte needs to apologize to anyone is beyond the pale, so far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:12 AM (zc3Db)


Yeah I think he does.

1) He was representing the USA
2) He vandalized private property
3) he lied
4) AND AND AND He hung his "Friends" out to dry and twist in the wind and ran home

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 07:15 AM (Ozsfq)

564 560 Hey Vic you will understand this. That is exactly
how that kid from SC ended up on Oprah talking about his car being
damaged by Lizardman awhile back. Lie to your mama and she believes you
when no one else will.

Posted by: tmitsss at August 19, 2016 07:12 AM (wNJkU)

Good old Lizardman. Haven't heard much about that one for a while.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 07:17 AM (mpXpK)

565 561 But... But... There's always dial-up! C'mon, even *I* have an ancient laptop with a built-in 56k modem! There's always a way!

** feels onset of DTs **


Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 19, 2016 07:12 AM (jV8Mq)

LOL, there is a dial-up phone there but local calls only. Doesn't do me much good since almost all of my calls would be long distance.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 07:19 AM (mpXpK)

566 Chicago Tribune: firm run by Donald Trump's campaign chairman directly orchestrated a
covert Washington lobbying operation on behalf of Ukraine's ruling
political party, attempting to sway American public opinion in favor of
the country's pro-Russian government, emails obtained by The Associated
Press show. Paul Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, never disclosed
their work as foreign agents as required under federal law.

Got to keep Trump in the headlines in a bad way, Hillary is resting this weekend and probably will be raring to go on Monday?? Of course nothing about the Clinton's in the news.....

Posted by: Colin at August 19, 2016 07:21 AM (tVUA+)

567 1) He was representing the USA

He was not representing the USA any more than you or I do when we are somewhere abroad. We don't have actual "national teams" like pretty much every other country does. The Olympics, to us, is just a private affair, not a governmental one.

2) He vandalized private property

Yeah. That's wrong.

3) he lied

And? He didn't accuse any person. He made a general lie to try and worm his way out of a sticky situation (of his own making, of course). This was not a false rape accusation that cost some poor guy his life. This was just a tale spun to try and make everything go away.

I don't know why those guys didn't just hit Phelps up for some cash. He must be loaded and I'm sure he would understand needing to bail his buddies out of some stupidity.

4) AND AND AND He hung his "Friends" out to dry and twist in the wind and ran home

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 07:15 AM (Ozsfq)


That's between Lochte and his friends. No one else. Any of them could have told the truth right from the beginning, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:22 AM (zc3Db)

568 And in a related news to keep Hillary out of the headlines, kunckle cracking is good for you...

Posted by: Colin at August 19, 2016 07:24 AM (tVUA+)

569 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:22 AM (zc3Db)

*** Your moral code is evidently a lot more flexible than mine. Lying to someone demands an apology. Period.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 07:25 AM (eXCbD)

570 Interesting comparison of news aggregation sites. I follow two of them...Drudge and BadBlue. Drudge has the Lochte story headlined this morning. Not a word on BadBlue.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 07:26 AM (eXCbD)

571 Lochte's just the latest incarnation of Celebrity Dumbass. There aren't deep implications for Humanity in any of it, and I'm not finding any reason to give a shit what problems he's caused himself.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 19, 2016 07:28 AM (3hIZX)

572 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:22 AM (zc3Db)

???

How was he not representing the USA? I don't care if his event was over? Remember when the USA Hockey team destroyed a few rooms they were in in a past Olympics after their events were over?

And it is pretty clear he was drunk off his ass and destroyed property. If he had not, why would he have lied? You admit he lied and then give him a pass?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 07:28 AM (Ozsfq)

573 Chicago Tribune: They don't feel the administration (City Hall) has their back,"
McCarthy said. "And every police officer I see basically says two things
to me.
"They say, 'Man, do we miss you. And B: 'If that's what they did to you, what would they do to me if I made a mistake?'


No sh*t, who would have thought that....

Posted by: Colin at August 19, 2016 07:29 AM (tVUA+)

574 Happy Friday. For those interested Tom Woods is the guest on the latest episode of the Milo Yiannopoulos show:

http://www.podcastone.com/the-milo-yiannopoulos-show

Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at August 19, 2016 07:29 AM (BDZWU)

575 @517. "...the only power use was the pole light and the refer my electricity bill was only about $15/month..." -Vic

Really? When was this? My pole light costs me $35 a month. I'm getting ripped-off.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at August 19, 2016 07:34 AM (K2SnJ)

576 How was he not representing the USA? I don't care if his event was over?

No, he was no sort of representative of America. He was just taking part in a competition. You seem to think the Olympics is some sort of official diplomatic event. It isn't. It's just a private competition that is run by Eurotrash who think everything in the world comes down to nationalism - and not nationalism about anything important but just silly, stupid sorts of nationalism. We don't think that way in America.

Remember when the USA Hockey team destroyed a few rooms they were in in a past Olympics after their events were over?

No, I don't, but I'll trust you on that.

And it is pretty clear he was drunk off his ass and destroyed property.

It happens. I've done it myself in college. So? That's a minor legal issue, and it isn't remedied by having wads of money extorted to some "charity".

If he had not, why would he have lied? You admit he lied and then give him a pass?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2016 07:28 AM (Ozsfq)


I just don't care much about his lie. It was a fairly innocuous lie. You and creeper think it was some major offense. Okay. We shall disagree on that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:34 AM (zc3Db)

577 Further to my recommendation that Lochte apologize, you may not think he needs to but it is the only way he comes out of this with any part of his reputation intact.

Of course, he can be an asshole and refuse to apologize. In which case he will be seen for the asshole he is.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2016 07:39 AM (eXCbD)

578 answer: james gang, "walk away"

is that the question?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 19, 2016 07:40 AM (WTSFk)

579 Drudge has a report about trying to curtail cow emissions... serious article from Bloomburg....Show a picture of a device to attach to a cow: I kid you not! Looks funny as hell!

In Argentina, home to over 50 million cows, researchers from the Argentina National Institute of Agricultural Technology (INTA) are attempting to use "methane backpacks," plastic contraptions attached to cows, to capture methane from a cow's digestive tract. The technology is in its early stages, but so far the backpacks have been able to extract 300 liters of methane a day, enough to power a car or refrigerator, according to INTA.

Posted by: Colin at August 19, 2016 07:50 AM (tVUA+)

580 575 Really? When was this? My pole light costs me $35 a month. I'm getting ripped-off.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at August 19, 2016 07:34 AM (K2SnJ)

That's about the normal charge if you get one installed by the utility. I put up my own pole and wired it from a breaker panel I had installed for my pool, the pool shed, and the light. But I get stuck with changing the light bulb when it burns out. I have a telescoping pole with a 'light grabber" on it that I use. I still have to stand in the back of my pickup to reach it though.


The pole is getting to be in bad shape now and I will have to change it soon. I am thinking of going to a shorter pole and installing two (one on each side) twin fluorescent 75 watt equivalent flood lights. They will last longer and use less KW.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 07:52 AM (mpXpK)

581 462 Yellow must be used very conservatively.

It works but only if it's..."just right".
Posted by: eleven at August 19, 2016 04:02 AM (qUNWi)

Yes. On a Ferrari.

Morning Horde.

Posted by: Golfman at August 19, 2016 07:52 AM (b6FQn)

582 dump

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 07:54 AM (mpXpK)

583 I am thinking of going to a shorter pole and installing two (one on each side) twin fluorescent 75 watt equivalent flood lights. They will last longer and use less KW.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 07:52 AM (mpXpK)


Fluorescents are total dogshit. They lose wattage pretty quickly and they just generally blow. You're better off going with LEDs. They will last and their light won't dim with time.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:54 AM (zc3Db)

584 In Brazil a judge sort of reviews the police reports and issues the equivalent of subpoena/warrants/etc. - all the investigation tools, to include holding for questioning. Then another layer decided to prosecute and arrest you.

All of which is the good news if your in trouble. The bad news is when the Judge Dress look alike, military motorcycle cops pick you up, do no paperwork, and drive you out somewhere quiet in the hills.

Posted by: Jean at August 19, 2016 07:54 AM (ngn8T)

585 583 Fluorescents are total dogshit. They lose wattage
pretty quickly and they just generally blow. You're better off going
with LEDs. They will last and their light won't dim with time.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 07:54 AM (zc3Db)

I have been using fluorescent floodlights on my front porch for about 5 years now and had no problems with them. As for LEDs we get a LOT of lightning and power surges here. LEDs are more susceptible to power surge failure than the florescents.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 08:11 AM (mpXpK)

586 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 08:11 AM (mpXpK)

Okey doke. Just my two cents. I tried fluorescents and absolutely hated them. I'm not wild about LED light but I like the low, low maintenance on them and the wattage savings are crucial in case power goes and I need to use the generator.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 08:16 AM (zc3Db)

587 Dishwasher crapped out with a cryptic PC (or something code). Googled it, found out it is probably a bad switch panel.
Found a youtube on how to replace. Bought a brand new switch panel for $120 plus shipping.

Took about 30 minutes to swap out the old for new.

Made me very happy - for some reason it has stopped making a thumping noise it used to make, so double bonus.

Posted by: Kevin at August 19, 2016 03:33 PM (Pw5Jq)

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