Emergency ONT - Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

I have no idea if an ONT is on the way, but here's a fresh thread to tide you over.

I watched an ABC 'In An Instant' episode tonight about the Aggie bonfire collapse in 1999. I had forgotten about it but boy, oh boy, were there some heart-wrenching stories told.

In case you've forgotten about it, you can read the story here, from April 2000.

When it was over, 12 young lives had been lost and 27 people had been injured. At a school for engineering, a flawed design was employed, over and over, despite warnings.

It's all so senseless.

BTW, I've never been a fan of ABC's '20/20' program but this new 'In An Instant' series is one of the best shows on tv. It's endlessly gripping and fascinating, and not in that sense that you feel you're being deliberately manipulated. They basically just let those who were part of the story tell the tale.

You should check it out some night.

So, that's it. Here's hoping for better content before the night is through.

Have a great night.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:53 PM




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1 Oh thank God

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 23, 2016 11:59 PM (jR7Wy)

2 Howdy, y'all!

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at July 23, 2016 11:59 PM (nvMvs)

3 How are you, Eris?

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at July 24, 2016 12:00 AM (nvMvs)

4 Evening.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at July 24, 2016 12:01 AM (WDg5t)

5 th

Say nothing
Do nothing
Be nothing
There is nothing
you will not understand
-Old wise guy

Posted by: mindful webworker - nothing in particular at July 24, 2016 12:01 AM (5a8XA)

6 fist

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 24, 2016 12:01 AM (oAY8z)

7 Be content with content.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2016 12:01 AM (IqV8l)

8
I have no idea if an ONT is on the way



Probably.

Like rush hour buses. Don't see one for an hour, then *zoom* three in a row.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:01 AM (kdS6q)

9 Top Ten....and I took the time to read all of the content, too!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


p.s. Thanks, CBD!

Posted by: Jim at July 24, 2016 12:01 AM (v5iqM)

10 last thread was just getting good

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 24, 2016 12:02 AM (oAY8z)

11 Wow. It was that long ago? Yeesh.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:02 AM (hVdx9)

12 As long as there's no Yo-know-who.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 24, 2016 12:02 AM (EZebt)

13 Correction/edit, thanks NDH!

And I can't keep Federal alphabet agencies straight, either. Go figure?

Apologies to NDH, natch.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 24, 2016 12:02 AM (v5iqM)

14 DNC are some dirty bastards, but we knew this!!

Posted by: lousagirl at July 24, 2016 12:03 AM (9plvG)

15 I'm doing fantabulously, Michael, thanks for asking. And yourself?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 24, 2016 12:03 AM (jR7Wy)

16 As are the media, lying liars lie

Posted by: lousagirl at July 24, 2016 12:04 AM (9plvG)

17 Great Bon Scott's toilet paper! That's alotta toothpicks.

Posted by: derit at July 24, 2016 12:04 AM (ewfUZ)

18 Jim, your kitty litter setup is awesome.

But to go to all that trouble, why not just teach your kittehs to poop in the toilet?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 24, 2016 12:04 AM (EZebt)

19
And a new trailer for the Doctor Strange *snore* -- oh, sorry. Dozed off there for a moment:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSzx-zryEgM

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:04 AM (kdS6q)

20 There's nothing wrong with a 6-hour chess thread.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 24, 2016 12:05 AM (tEhtH)

21
And this is a good one, so if a real ont ont appears, it gets reposted:

The new Trek TV series has a name and a ship:

Star Trek: Discovery

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqm9HSYbf0o

Based on concept art the legendary Ralph McQuarrie did for the proposed Star Trek: Phase II show of the 70s that got canceled at the last minute in favor of doing Star Trek:TMP.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:06 AM (kdS6q)

22 But OregonMuse, aren't you supposed to contact your doctor if it goes on for longer than four hours?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 12:06 AM (q7T0y)

23 There's nothing wrong with a 6-hour chess thread.


Posted by: OregonMuse


6 hours? There were really only 12 moves.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 24, 2016 12:06 AM (Cz05v)

24 OregonMuse, what's the longest that a chess game has lasted? I mean one where the opponents are sitting down facing each other?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 24, 2016 12:06 AM (jR7Wy)

25 18 Jim, your kitty litter setup is awesome.

But to go to all that trouble, why not just teach your kittehs to poop in the toilet?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 24, 2016 12:04 AM (EZebt)



Because I can control my own craftsmanship, but not the cat's crapsmanship.

That, and the cats need unfettered accesss, even when there'd be guests in house, and especially if said guests forgot to leave the toilet in cat-ready condition.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 24, 2016 12:06 AM (v5iqM)

26 Speechless.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 24, 2016 12:07 AM (vQc5t)

27 everybody good?

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 24, 2016 12:07 AM (0O7c5)

28 I blame the lack of Social Justice for the collapse!

Posted by: Critical Bonfire Studies Major (with a minor in tree hugging) at July 24, 2016 12:07 AM (vBeA5)

29 Great Bon Scott's toilet paper! That's alotta toothpicks.

***

Indeed.

The entire design hinged on the strength of one center pole upon which all other logs were dependent for their support. That center pole snapped like a toothpick in three places.

That linked article will make you shake your head.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 24, 2016 12:07 AM (SEXy3)

30 There's nothing wrong with a 6-hour chess thread.


Posted by: OregonMuse
****

It sure didn't help my erection.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:08 AM (hVdx9)

31 that was in '99? i totally remember that...so sad

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 24, 2016 12:08 AM (0O7c5)

32 The Never-Trump fucks at this point are all in for Hillary. They will have to live with that. Fuck Um.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 24, 2016 12:08 AM (Y/5qL)

33 Laurie David's Cervix: The new Trek TV series has a name and a ship: Star Trek: Discovery...

Can anyone watch that and not think of the similar scene from Galaxy Quest?

* leaning heavily to one side in my chair *

Posted by: mindful webworker - nothing in particular at July 24, 2016 12:08 AM (5a8XA)

34 Howdy, y'all!!!


When I consider that Maet's daytime job is head of cybersecurity for the NSA, and CDR-M is chief of worldwide US military response 9 to 5, I am a tad concerned when the ONT fails to post on time.......

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:09 AM (EzgxV)

35 32 cm9000, they were always for hillaty

Posted by: lousagirl at July 24, 2016 12:10 AM (9plvG)

36 Howdy, y'all!!!


When I consider that Maet's daytime job is head of cybersecurity for the NSA, and CDR-M is chief of worldwide US military response 9 to 5, I am a tad concerned when the ONT fails to post on time.......


Posted by: cthulhu
****

Relax. They had to take care of something at a Super 8.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:10 AM (hVdx9)

37 Cooth, you blew their cover! Now they'll be coming for you!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 24, 2016 12:10 AM (jR7Wy)

38 I hope your kittehs are grateful!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 24, 2016 12:10 AM (EZebt)

39 Relax. They had to take care of something at a Super 8.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:10 AM (hVdx9)
----
All part of the COOP training. Every hooker contingency is covered.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 24, 2016 12:11 AM (jR7Wy)

40 that was in '99? i totally remember that...so sad

***

The show featured the mother of one of the victims, Tm Kerlee. Mrs. Kerlee explained how she and her husband had been the ones to inform her son, in the hospital, that there was nothing that could be done to save his life.

I don't know if I've ever heard anything so sad, but her composure, graciousness, and faith are awe-inspiring.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 24, 2016 12:11 AM (SEXy3)

41 In before alec complains we're off topic...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Guy at July 24, 2016 12:11 AM (vyqqu)

42 As much as I dislike Trump, the people saying he's worse than Hillary make me think they are insane.
BTW, I mentioned I dislike Trump not out of virtue signaling, but to show I'm not some over the top fan boy.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:12 AM (hVdx9)

43
Can anyone watch that and not think of the similar scene from Galaxy Quest?
Posted by: mindful webworker



Living in the post ST:TNG era, by flipping the nacelle pylons to below the secondary hull, the ship gets a Federation/Klingon hybrid vibe.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:12 AM (kdS6q)

44 32
The Never-Trump fucks at this point are all in for Hillary. They will have to live with that. Fuck Um.


Posted by: cm9000 at July 24, 2016 12:08 AM (Y/5qL)


Zerohedge says the Kochs support her. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-23/ koch-brothers-now-supporting-often- confused-hillary-clinton -- Square that circle.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

45 Star Trek Shmar Trek. Bring back "Quark"!

Posted by: FireHorse at July 24, 2016 12:14 AM (zMWBb)

46 Well. Let's just not pin all our hopes on friction overcoming horizontal shear...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 12:14 AM (kP16F)

47 24 OregonMuse, what's the longest that a chess game has lasted? I mean one where the opponents are sitting down facing each other?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 24, 2016 12:06 AM (jR7Wy)


This one:

The longest tournament chess game (in terms of moves) ever to be played was Nikolic-Arsovic, Belgrade 1989, which lasted for 269 moves and took 20 hours and 15 minutes to complete a drawn game. At the time this game was played, FIDE had modified the fifty-move rule to allow 100 moves to be played without a piece being captured in a rook and bishop versus rook endgame, the situation in Nikolic versus Arsovic. FIDE has since rescinded that modification to the rule.

Yow. Keep in mind, this is from the modern era. There may be games from before timed games that were longer.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 24, 2016 12:14 AM (tEhtH)

48 35 years ago I was taking flight lessons and getting certified for night flying. We happened to fly over College Station and the bonfire was in full swing. It was mighty impressive from 4000 feet.

Posted by: davo at July 24, 2016 12:14 AM (sMLEE)

49 "Based on concept art the legendary Ralph McQuarrie did"

With shitty new scripts! Stay tuned!

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 12:14 AM (noWW6)

50 Zerohedge says the Kochs support her. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-23/ koch-brothers-now-supporting-often- confused-hillary-clinton -- Square that circle.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

*****

OK, that's it! Those fuckers are right off my Christmas card list!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 24, 2016 12:15 AM (YLidQ)

51 38.... I'm sure they are.

Truth be told, I built it when their predecessor, Harley was still alive. And he was a 12 year old mature cat when we moved into the house.

He'd lived the previous seven years aboard boat with me, but before that in San Antonio, he had a similar custom cat box room, enclosed within a cabinet out in the garage, which opened into the laundry room in the house.

So, when we got Bonnie n' Scamp, the cat bathroom was already here awaiting them.

It works, the box get scooped once or twice a day, and there's never an odor.

Works for the human occupants, too. No box to trip over anywhere, or be unsightly out in the open.

I'm happy enough with it.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 24, 2016 12:15 AM (v5iqM)

52 "Zerohedge says the Kochs support her."

If that is true, then F them too.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:15 AM (hVdx9)

53
Zerohedge says the Kochs support her.
Posted by: cthulhu



Zerohedge also says Space Lizards live inside the Hollow Earth.

Which, while in itself true, does not automatically validate the other odd things they say.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:15 AM (kdS6q)

54 The linked article points out that they had no professional engineer oversight, by design.

Something oxymoronic about that, but cannot quite put my finger on it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2016 12:16 AM (P/kVC)

55 So the Wonder Woman movie trailer released. That of course must mean it's getting massive dislikes because the Internet is just full of woman haters that would never like a female centric superhero movie.

Right?


https://youtu.be/5lGoQhFb4NM

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 12:17 AM (C/jFU)

56 I was watching this as well. I feel these were the unfortunate events that shook the nightly news before our Islamic friends took over that duty.

Posted by: Backtoga at July 24, 2016 12:17 AM (uMqI7)

57
With shitty new scripts! Stay tuned!
Posted by: torquewrench



The inevitable shovelfuls of SJW propaganda in the scripts will be difficult to endure.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:17 AM (kdS6q)

58 Laurie David's Cervix: Living in the post ST:TNG era, by flipping the nacelle pylons to below the secondary hull, the ship gets a Federation/Klingon hybrid vibe.

Bu.. bu.. but...

In space, no one can say which way is "up."

Maybe it was the ship designation was painted on the bottom of... oh, never mind.

Can't get rid of Trek. It just keeps klinging on.

Posted by: mindful webworker - upside downish at July 24, 2016 12:17 AM (5a8XA)

59 Zerohedge says the Kochs support her.
Posted by: cthulhu

Zerohedge also says Space Lizards live inside the Hollow Earth.

Which, while in itself true, does not automatically validate the other odd things they say.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:15 AM (kdS6q)
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Well, the Kochs do run the secret Nazi Antarctic Base at the entrance to Pellucidar, so I'd give this theory some credence.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 24, 2016 12:19 AM (jR7Wy)

60 THIS IS NOT THE CHESS THREAD.

Posted by: Owl Lick at July 24, 2016 12:19 AM (IqV8l)

61 The linked article points out that they had no professional engineer oversight, by design.

Something oxymoronic about that, but cannot quite put my finger on it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast
---------------

I observed a classic Warren Truss bridge constructed by a group of Civil students. Damn thing was just over a creek on campus, for pedestrian traffic. You could have driven a tank over it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2016 12:19 AM (mxCgt)

62 44 32
The Never-Trump fucks at this point are all in for Hillary. They will have to live with that. Fuck Um.


Posted by: cm9000 at July 24, 2016 12:08 AM (Y/5qL)


Zerohedge says the Kochs support her. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-23/ koch-brothers-now-supporting-often- confused-hillary-clinton -- Square that circle.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

++++

They are Libertarians. Capital 'L' Libertarians. They like free trade and open borders. They would prefer low tax / low regulation to go with their open borders, but open borders come first.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 24, 2016 12:19 AM (R+30W)

63 Shocked the Koch brothers are supporting Clinton Kaine.

Shocked I tell ya.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 24, 2016 12:19 AM (vQc5t)

64 BTW, I linked a friend of mine into the pet thread. If some variation of "Tiff" comments on this thread, she's likely real.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:20 AM (EzgxV)

65 Kochs for Hillary? Maybe. These days when I hear of completely, implausibly, *bad* things, I tend to believe them... because they are usually true.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2016 12:22 AM (mxCgt)

66 The Occurrence at Owl Lick Creek spoiler: the chess thread was just a drea-- ...ack, gurgle!

Posted by: derit at July 24, 2016 12:22 AM (ewfUZ)

67 I used to like Star Trek: The Animated Series.

Then again, I also liked the cartoon that had Laverne & Shirley in the Army. Their sergeant was a pig.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 24, 2016 12:22 AM (zMWBb)

68 I'm doing fine, Eris. Thanks.

I went off to read the story. Very sobering. I got my second degree from A&M in 1982 (chemical engineering) but was a two-percenter because my studies were difficult and I didn't care for the rah-rah. Still, it's a great school and I enjoyed my time there.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT Hobbit at July 24, 2016 12:22 AM (nvMvs)

69 61
The linked article points out that they had no professional engineer oversight, by design.



Something oxymoronic about that, but cannot quite put my finger on it.



Posted by: Burnt Toast

---------------



I observed a classic Warren Truss bridge constructed by a group of
Civil students. Damn thing was just over a creek on campus, for
pedestrian traffic. You could have driven a tank over it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2016 12:19 AM (mxCgt)


Roberto, the guy who normally helps me turn my delusions into reality, refers to it as "elefantes bailandos". My stuff is built for dancing elephants.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:22 AM (EzgxV)

70 I like the new ST ship. It does look like it can inflict some hurt.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:23 AM (hVdx9)

71 I just learnt what 'pellucid' meant yesterday. Apparently it's per-lucid, so 'very clear, transparent'.

Basically I've been replaying Star Control 2 a lot, and there are Pellucid Planets in it, so that's why I looked it up.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2016 12:23 AM (6FqZa)

72 Just think! As we speak, Maet is assembling millions and millions of Yoko pictures...

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 12:24 AM (q7T0y)

73
I like the new ST ship. It does look like it can inflict some hurt.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale


Why can't it deliver niceness?

Posted by: Space Hippie at July 24, 2016 12:24 AM (IqV8l)

74 Koch Bros., not the haberdashers, are having a fight with Hillary.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/opff43f

Posted by: gNewt.....don't like Ryan....better call Paul at July 24, 2016 12:25 AM (Ok9RO)

75 Any explanation as to why these comic book movies are being set in the past?

OK, it's only the two trailers I actually watched, but Skull Island seems to be Vietnam-era, and Wonder Woman is WW(?!)I.

Posted by: nostalgia at July 24, 2016 12:25 AM (rLrEx)

76 So did Clinton pick Kaine as her VP on the hope that LIV BLM types will think Kayne West is her runningmate?

Posted by: Willy J. at July 24, 2016 12:26 AM (mRvs9)

77 My stuff is built for dancing elephants.
Posted by: cthulhu
--------------

The deck that I built off our last house will still be standing after the house eventually falls.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2016 12:26 AM (mxCgt)

78 the kochs are supporting her.....inspite of zerohedge reporting it

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 24, 2016 12:27 AM (0O7c5)

79 If that is true, then F them too.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:15 AM (hVdx9)


Yes, f* them in particular.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 24, 2016 12:28 AM (tEhtH)

80 Just think! As we speak, Maet is assembling millions and millions of Yoko pictures...
Posted by: qdpsteve
-----------

*alarm!*

Wait... what is the critical mass for Yoko compilations?!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2016 12:28 AM (mxCgt)

81 72 qdpsteve, no yoko/Hillary pics haha

Posted by: lousagirl at July 24, 2016 12:28 AM (9plvG)

82 74 Koch Bros., not the haberdashers, are having a fight with Hillary.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/opff43f

Posted by: gNewt.....don't like Ryan....better call Paul at July 24, 2016 12:25 AM (Ok9RO)

++++

Check the date. Story is more than a year old.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 24, 2016 12:28 AM (R+30W)

83 75 Any explanation as to why these comic book movies are being set in the past?

OK, it's only the two trailers I actually watched, but Skull Island seems to be Vietnam-era, and Wonder Woman is WW(?!)I.
Posted by: nostalgia at July 24, 2016 12:25 AM (rLrEx)


Yeah Wonder Woman is set in WW1. And if it's good I don't give a fuck what time period they set it in.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 12:29 AM (C/jFU)

84 Test

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:30 AM (hVdx9)

85 75 Any explanation as to why these comic book movies are being set in the past?
OK, it's only the two trailers I actually watched, but Skull Island seems to be Vietnam-era, and Wonder Woman is WW(?!)I.

Posted by: nostalgia at July 24, 2016 12:25 AM (rLrEx)


I have a theory on that:

It's because the SJW assholes and progressive crybullies have fucked everything up so badly that people (and Hollywood) are getting tired of having to put up with their bullshit - so it's a lot easier to set a movie in the past so you don't have to kowtow to every special little snowflake and pet cause.

This theory is totally true because I made it up just now.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 24, 2016 12:31 AM (tEhtH)

86 77
My stuff is built for dancing elephants.

Posted by: cthulhu

--------------



The deck that I built off our last house will still be standing after the house eventually falls.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2016 12:26 AM (mxCgt)



I (Roberto) built a cubical cage to ensure wheelbarrows and such coming down the main path wouldn't ding our AC compressor coils. Next thing you know, Roberto's standing on it to trim passionflower vines....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:31 AM (EzgxV)

87 So did Clinton pick Kaine as her VP on the hope that LIV BLM types will think Kayne West is her runningmate?

Posted by: Willy J. at July 24, 2016 12:26 AM (mRvs9)


Is Clem Kardouchian on the ticket, too?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2016 12:31 AM (htBb9)

88 84 Test

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:30 AM (hVdx9)

++++

What did you say?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 24, 2016 12:31 AM (R+30W)

89 Aaaand I probably won't watch it after reading this crap from the guy in charge.
On the actors they want:
"There's a few people that we like and we want to carry on what Star Trek does best, which is being progressive. So it's fascinating to look at at all of these roles through a color blind prism and a gender-blind prism."

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:32 AM (hVdx9)

90 Aha! My hash changed from the power bump from this afternoon's T-storm.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2016 12:32 AM (htBb9)

91 What did you say?



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
****

That pixy can go die in a fire.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:32 AM (hVdx9)

92 Just think! As we speak, Maet is assembling millions and millions of Yoko pictures...


Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 12:24 AM



Here's something groovy to tide you over!


https://youtu.be/HdZ9weP5i68

Posted by: otho at July 24, 2016 12:32 AM (EWg9n)

93 The male lead (co-star?) in Wonder Woman is *Chris Pine*?

So, could be good, can't really be *great*.

Everything he does seems to be a tipsy frat boy imitating Jerry Lewis.

The new Star Trek ship looks like an old Klingon ship. Was kind of hoping they'd go post-TNG, but they're re-enacting TOS *again*.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2016 12:33 AM (wB8Tg)

94 85 75 Any explanation as to why these comic book movies are being set in the past?
OK, it's only the two trailers I actually watched, but Skull Island seems to be Vietnam-era, and Wonder Woman is WW(?!)I.

Posted by: nostalgia at July 24, 2016 12:25 AM (rLrEx)

I have a theory on that:

It's because the SJW assholes and progressive crybullies have fucked everything up so badly that people (and Hollywood) are getting tired of having to put up with their bullshit - so it's a lot easier to set a movie in the past so you don't have to kowtow to every special little snowflake and pet cause.

This theory is totally true because I made it up just now.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 24, 2016 12:31 AM (tEhtH)



Prediction: on this thread or sometime in the future someone is going to declare that they are setting it in the past so they can more easily show how sexist and awful men are.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 12:34 AM (C/jFU)

95 Reading the Aggie obits, and nearly all the guys were Eagle Scouts. What a loss

Posted by: NCKate at July 24, 2016 12:35 AM (9Pufo)

96 I saw Power Bump open for the Electric Light Orchestra at the Hippodrome in '79.

Posted by: good shew at July 24, 2016 12:35 AM (rLrEx)

97 85 75 Any explanation as to why these comic book movies are being set in the past?
OK, it's only the two trailers I actually watched, but Skull Island seems to be Vietnam-era, and Wonder Woman is WW(?!)I.

Posted by: nostalgia at July 24, 2016 12:25 AM (rLrEx)

I have a theory on that:

It's because the SJW assholes and progressive crybullies have fucked everything up so badly that people (and Hollywood) are getting tired of having to put up with their bullshit - so it's a lot easier to set a movie in the past so you don't have to kowtow to every special little snowflake and pet cause.

This theory is totally true because I made it up just now.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 24, 2016 12:31 AM (tEhtH)

++++

My guess would be that it is part of their effort to rewrite history, but I haven't seen either movie, so I really am guessing.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 24, 2016 12:35 AM (R+30W)

98 The new Star Trek ship looks like an old Klingon ship. Was kind of hoping they'd go post-TNG, but they're re-enacting TOS *again*.

Posted by: Merovign,
****

I actually like it, but I thought all the previous Federation ships seemed pompous and faggy.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:35 AM (hVdx9)

99
Wonder Woman is WW(?!)I.
Posted by: nostalgia


That makes a tiny bit of sense. Wonder Woman started out as WWII Nazi smasher propaganda. That's why you saw that in the first season of the Lynda Carter TV series. Good v Eeeeevil absolute moral demarcation and so on.

But WWI? Amazon Island could probably just gaf about which unrepresentative European Imperial power controls Belgium.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:38 AM (kdS6q)

100 98 The new Star Trek ship looks like an old Klingon ship. Was kind of hoping they'd go post-TNG, but they're re-enacting TOS *again*.

Posted by: Merovign,
****

I actually like it, but I thought all the previous Federation ships seemed pompous and faggy.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:35 AM (hVdx9)



Kiss my ass.

*launchs quantum torpedoes and fire pulse phasers*

Posted by: USS Defiant at July 24, 2016 12:38 AM (C/jFU)

101 The new Star Trek should've had the Spaceballs' Winnebago make a cameo appearance.

You know. Class the joint up a little bit. Plus, a triple crossing of the threads.

Now, there's some reviews I'd enjoy reading.

"It was like there was a great disturbance in the farce, and then, silence."



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 24, 2016 12:38 AM (v5iqM)

102 Prediction: on this thread or sometime in the future someone is going to declare that they are setting it in the past so they can more easily show how sexist and awful men are.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 12:34 AM (C/jFU)

++++

That was my favorite part about Mad Men. At least in the beginning. As they moved further into the '60s, they got more "enlightened" and I lost interest.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 24, 2016 12:38 AM (R+30W)

103 74 Koch Bros., not the haberdashers, are having a fight with Hillary.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/opff43f


One would thing Bing would list something a little more current as their number one preview.

Here's one from the Guardian, not that I put much stock in them but they're, saying the Koch's are going to Hillary. Well, the world's going to Shinola so why not?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zu83bhs



Posted by: gNewt...don't like Ryan..better call Paul at July 24, 2016 12:40 AM (Ok9RO)

104
The entire design hinged on the strength of one center pole upon
which all other logs were dependent for their support. That center pole
snapped like a toothpick in three places.


They still do it-unofficially, as the insurance cost is what made AM pull the plug after the '99 tragedy. It seems they've learned a lot from what happened. I actually approve. We've come to fetishize absolute safety, which makes human progress impossible. Every time you step on an airliner for am easy, safe, cost to cost flight, you're flying on the bodies of thousands who died in the 40s,50s and 60s to make it possible. There's real value in AM's "other education" concept, and Bonfire is a part of that. ESPN did a story on the now Bonfire a couple of years ago:

http://tinyurl.com/psvvwkf

It seems they learned their lessons.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 24, 2016 12:41 AM (N8hFs)

105 Kiss my ass.

*launchs quantum torpedoes and fire pulse phasers*

Posted by: USS Defiant
****

Not bad for an "escort vessel".

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:41 AM (hVdx9)

106
Here's one from the Guardian, not that I put much stock in them but they're, saying the Koch's are going to Hillary.

The Guardian says Hillary's choice of Kaine shows she is the adult in the room.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2016 12:42 AM (IqV8l)

107 I have a theory that the SJW's in particular, and the Left in general have been unleashed and irrevocably emboldened by the Obergefell/i] decision... Can I get a job at Zero Hedge now?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 12:42 AM (kP16F)

108 So what was the outcome of the investigation into the Aggie Bonfire tragedy? Did anybody get blamed? Were there any reforms instituted?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2016 12:42 AM (htBb9)

109 Club for Growth on the Hillary cider wagon yet?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 24, 2016 12:42 AM (NUqwG)

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 12:42 AM (kP16F)

111
I actually like it, but I thought all the previous Federation ships seemed pompous and faggy.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale



And, I kid you not, on the media boards atm there's bitching about how the new ship looks too angular and aggressive, while a "real" Trek ship should be following and rounded. They're using the "ship as mother" metaphor too.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:42 AM (kdS6q)

112
These are the folks who want you to believe Trump and Republicans are neo-Nazis who hate joos:

FromaceyA@dnc.org
To: MARSHALL@dnc.org, MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org
Date: 2016-05-05 12:23
Subject: Re: No shit

AMEN
Amy K. Dacey | Chief Executive Officer
Democratic National Committee 430 S. Capitol Street, SE Washington, D.C. 20003 202-528-7492 (c) | 202-314-2263 (o) DaceyA@dnc.org

On 5/5/16, 1:33 AM, "Brad Marshall" wrote:
>It's these Jesus thing. >

>> On May 5, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Brad Marshall wrote: >>
>> It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to
>>ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he
>>has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could
>>make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps
>>would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 24, 2016 12:43 AM (EZebt)

113 And, I kid you not, on the media boards atm there's bitching about how the new ship looks too angular and aggressive, while a "real" Trek ship should be following and rounded. They're using the "ship as mother" metaphor too.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
****

The Federation has always seemed wimpy to me.
I like the new look. The question is whether it has the stones to back up the look.
I wouldn't be surprised if they cave on the design because of the SJWs.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:46 AM (hVdx9)

114 Looking-glass II showed up today, dual 4-core Xeons, 12G RAM, yada, yada, yada. We'll see if I can light II up before I.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:46 AM (EzgxV)

115 The Guardian says Hillary's choice of Kaine shows she is the addled one in the room.

They can expect a bill for my services. And don't pay me in money with the queen on it!

Posted by: derit at July 24, 2016 12:46 AM (ewfUZ)

116 Oh and USS Defiant:
"In 2375, the Breen destroyed the USS Defiant during the Second Battle of Chin'toka."

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:48 AM (hVdx9)

117 The Guardian says Hillary's choice of Kaine shows she is the adult in the room.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2016 12:42 AM (IqV8l)


She may be the adult in the room. That just makes her win all the more dreadful.

Posted by: gNewt...don't like Ryan..better call Paul at July 24, 2016 12:48 AM (Ok9RO)

118 113 And, I kid you not, on the media boards atm there's bitching about how the new ship looks too angular and aggressive, while a "real" Trek ship should be following and rounded. They're using the "ship as mother" metaphor too.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
****

The Federation has always seemed wimpy to me.
I like the new look. The question is whether it has the stones to back up the look.
I wouldn't be surprised if they cave on the design because of the SJWs.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:46 AM (hVdx9)


They'll appease them by making all the bad asses women or gay.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 12:48 AM (C/jFU)

119
And a report on the Guardians of the Galaxy 2 trailer shown at Comic Con, and apparently drugs were involved while writing the script. Drugs like peyote.

You will not believe the Marvel deep cut Starlord's daddy turns out to be:

http://tinyurl.com/zhwhwt2

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:48 AM (kdS6q)

120 I just watched 10 Cloverfield Lane.

Damn. Awesome.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2016 12:48 AM (CS7jF)

121 I should also note that today was a Roberto day and -- as usual -- it kicked my ass.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:48 AM (EzgxV)

122 That makes a tiny bit of sense. Wonder Woman started out as WWII Nazi smasher propaganda. That's why you saw that in the first season of the Lynda Carter TV series. Good v Eeeeevil absolute moral demarcation and so on.

But WWI? Amazon Island could probably just gaf about which unrepresentative European Imperial power controls Belgium.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:38 AM (kdS6q)


Amazonian's were of Greek legend, so they would have been in the area of Greece and the Ottoman Empire.

Makes sense from that point.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 24, 2016 12:50 AM (1JnAL)

123
I have a theory that the SJW's in particular, and the Left in general have been unleashed and irrevocably emboldened by the Obergefell/i] decision... Can I get a job at Zero Hedge now?


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 12:42 AM (kP16F)


The SJW's are just the latest iteration of the Cultural Marxist Left. From Alinsky to Hillary; from Ayers to Obama. It just goes on and on.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 24, 2016 12:50 AM (Y/5qL)

124 Space X's ship has a nice rounded look.

Posted by: gNewt...don't like Ryan..better call Paul at July 24, 2016 12:51 AM (Ok9RO)

125 They'll appease them by making all the bad asses women or gay.

Posted by: Buzzion
****

So a bunch of gay badass women.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:51 AM (hVdx9)

126 Can we get some officially sanctioned ONT rules? Not before 9:00 ET; not after 12:00 ET. No provisionals without mentioning the flake.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2016 12:52 AM (EzgxV)

127 Posted by: USS Defiant

Whatever your military merits, you looked like a wood chip.

Posted by: uncomfortable truths at July 24, 2016 12:52 AM (rLrEx)

128 Speaking of Wonder Woman:

http://tinyurl.com/Wonder-Woman-Kills-It

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2016 12:53 AM (CS7jF)

129 One of the problems with "OldTrek" is they always end up retconning or glossing over a lot of ST history, which is looking pretty ragged at this point.

I guess that kind of always happens, but meh.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2016 12:53 AM (wB8Tg)

130 The new Star Trek ship looks like an old Klingon ship. Was kind of hoping they'd go post-TNG, but they're re-enacting TOS *again*.

Posted by: Merovign,
****

I actually like it, but I thought all the previous Federation ships seemed pompous and faggy.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 12:35 AM (hVdx9)


It's based on the "new Enterprise" that was designed for Star Trek: Phase II:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jt7q2ww

Posted by: To boldly go where no Hat has gone before! at July 24, 2016 12:54 AM (vBeA5)

131 @123, cm9000

Yes, but the Obergefell decision set a precedent that the Constitution can be used for social engineering. That's a sea change!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 12:55 AM (kP16F)

132 Leave it to the Greeks to be utterly unaware of an island. populated exclusively by hot women, within mere miles of their own borders.

Posted by: Antikythera mechanism at July 24, 2016 12:57 AM (rLrEx)

133
Amazonian's were of Greek legend, so they would have been in the area of Greece and the Ottoman Empire.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper



But in the Grecian Time of Legends Anatolia would have been -- Trojan I guess. If the Amazons are going to get all pms about someone, it would be them.

And in the historical Greek era, that area was Greek colonies or culturally Greek up until the Moslem conquest. If it's personal, WW should be in Mecca wrecking things. Like that'll happen.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:58 AM (kdS6q)

134 Gay badass women... I'm good with that as long as they're "femmes"!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 12:58 AM (kP16F)

135 They'll appease them by making all the bad asses women or gay.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 12:48 AM (C/jFU)


Well all the new Star Wars movies have gone Kick Ass Disney Princess....

Where all the Evil folks are Men... all the Heroes are Women... except for the needed BLACK sidekick...

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at July 24, 2016 12:58 AM (qf6WZ)

136 Yes, but the Obergefell decision set a precedent that the Constitution can be used for social engineering. That's a sea change!


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 12:55 AM (kP16F)


You might want to study Roe v Wade circa 1972.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 24, 2016 12:58 AM (Y/5qL)

137 Woof.

Posted by: Elizabeth at July 24, 2016 01:04 AM (/wm8n)

138 Okay, this is hilarious:

http://tinyurl.com/Sausage-Party-Red-Band-Trailer

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2016 01:05 AM (CS7jF)

139 And a report on the Guardians of the Galaxy 2 trailer shown at Comic Con, and apparently drugs were involved while writing the script. Drugs like peyote.

You will not believe the Marvel deep cut Starlord's daddy turns out to be:

http://tinyurl.com/zhwhwt2
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 12:48 AM (kdS6q)

Hmmm, that is different. At this point, shark jumping may need to be discussed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:05 AM (3ZoRf)

140 You might want to study Roe v Wade circa 1972.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 24, 2016 12:58 AM (Y/5qL)

Yeah, Roe is bad, but I still say Obegefell is the Dred Scott of our time...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 01:06 AM (kP16F)

141 "The new Star Trek should've had the Spaceballs' Winnebago make a cameo appearance."

The effects boffins at ILM, back in the day, for the ragtag Rebel fleet in _Return of the Jedi_, stuck in a bunch of stuff in the distant background like old gym shoes.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 01:08 AM (noWW6)

142 I'm "contributing" tonight from an 8" Windows tablet with a tiny Bluetooth keyboard... It's not going well!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 01:09 AM (kP16F)

143 141 "The new Star Trek should've had the Spaceballs' Winnebago make a cameo appearance."

The effects boffins at ILM, back in the day, for the ragtag Rebel fleet in _Return of the Jedi_, stuck in a bunch of stuff in the distant background like old gym shoes.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 01:08 AM (noWW6)

Let me guess, Lucas took out all this fun stuff when he did his special editions.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:09 AM (3ZoRf)

144 Star Trek? Star Wars?

Meh.

Here's Dark Star, in all it's hilarity:

http://tinyurl.com/Dark-Star-Full-Movie

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2016 01:10 AM (CS7jF)

145 Zerohedge says the Kochs support her.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-23/
koch-brothers-now-supporting-often- confused-hillary-clinton -- Square
that circle.
---

Future conversation:

shibumi: Those Koch Brothers are the worst.

liberal co-workers: I hate them with every fiber of my being.

shibumi: yeah. you know they're supporting hillary, right?

liberal co-workers: you're lying. they would never support her.

shibumi (smiling): yeah, they are. it's in The Guardian. who would have thought that you and the Koch Brothers have the exact same political views.

/co-workers would hate me, but it might be worth it.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at July 24, 2016 01:10 AM (tvyXw)

146 The effects boffins at ILM, back in the day, for the ragtag Rebel fleet in _Return of the Jedi_, stuck in a bunch of stuff in the distant background like old gym shoes.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 01:08 AM (noWW6)



And if they ever release a 4k tech copy of that movie, those artifacts won't be so distant and indistinct in that background!

Un. Intended. Consequences. (but hilarious!)



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 24, 2016 01:11 AM (v5iqM)

147 I went to five Bonfires as a student, years before this accident. They used to be built right there on campus, not too far from my dorm.

Yep, it's a pyro's most fervent dream. The drinking age was 18 back then, so we could have drinks like grownups while watching that thing light up, then burn down for hours. Simple pleasures and good times.

Posted by: stace at July 24, 2016 01:11 AM (ozZau)

148 #55 But... but... she's a gurrrrrrrl...!

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 24, 2016 01:11 AM (Kucy5)

149
shibumi (smiling): yeah, they are. it's in The Guardian. who would have thought that you and the Koch Brothers have the exact same political views.
***
Hillary represents the establishment...personified.

Basically, if you think you are on a great course right now she's your woman. Trump said this a bit, I think it would be a great point to hammer home...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 24, 2016 01:14 AM (pibXr)

150 "Let me guess, Lucas took out all this fun stuff when he did his special editions."

No doubt. Although he had not been made aware of all (any?) of these insider effects-shop in-jokes in the first place, and would never have authorized any of them to begin with, so he may have missed one or two.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 01:14 AM (noWW6)

151
141 "The new Star Trek should've had the Spaceballs' Winnebago make a cameo appearance."

The effects boffins at ILM, back in the day, for the ragtag Rebel fleet in _Return of the Jedi_, stuck in a bunch of stuff in the distant background like old gym shoes.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 01:08 AM (noWW6)


One of the asteroids in Empire is a potato.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 01:14 AM (C/jFU)

152 But is this art???

http://www.e2046.com/p/25478

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 01:15 AM (fr2Vz)

153 I saw the WW movie trailer... it looked pretty decent. It looked like perhaps they were going too much to the Captain America well (this might be canon, I have not read the comics.) It was at least refreshing for them not to set it during WWII.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:15 AM (3ZoRf)

154
Got the ship designs mixed up. The RMQ B-70 Enterprise was for the proposed Star Trek: Planet of Titans movie, not the Star Trek: We're Running out of Colons TV series:

memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Planet_of_the_Titans

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 01:16 AM (kdS6q)

155 152 But is this art???

http://www.e2046.com/p/25478
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 01:15 AM (fr2Vz)

Yes, it qualifies. Two quibbles:
1) The sword not being held bothers me. Did she drop it? Is she summoning it to her hand via the force?

2) The face is kind of creepy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:18 AM (3ZoRf)

156 Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at July 24, 2016 01:10 AM (tvyXw)

I'm really looking forward to the reactions of all the people like harry Reid who've been smearing the Kochs as worse than Hitler for years. Their slander was so silly and over the top, I want to see them have to eat what they vomited up. Just for entertainment.

Posted by: stace at July 24, 2016 01:19 AM (ozZau)

157 Oh, now I see what you did there NDH.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 24, 2016 01:19 AM (vQc5t)

158
Their slander was so silly and over the top, I want to see them have to eat what they vomited up. Just for entertainment.
Posted by: stace at July 24, 2016 01:19 AM


They'll just change the subject as they always do.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2016 01:20 AM (IqV8l)

159 154
Got the ship designs mixed up. The RMQ B-70 Enterprise was for the proposed Star Trek: Planet of Titans movie, not the Star Trek: We're Running out of Colons TV series:

memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Planet_of_the_Titans
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2016 01:16 AM (kdS6q)

I remember seeing that a loooong time ago. To it's credit, it does have a sleeker look than the bloated Enterprise from Next Generation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:20 AM (3ZoRf)

160 Actually a fusion of the McQuarrie and Ken Adam concepts of an Enterprise with a flat delta body did make it into the Next Gen series in "The Best of Both Worlds Pt II" as one of the damaged ships left at Wolf 359.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 01:21 AM (fr2Vz)

161 They'll just change the subject as they always do.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2016 01:20 AM (IqV8l)

Yeah true. The Demedia memory hole is so effective it can suck in a whole fleet of starships.

Posted by: stace at July 24, 2016 01:23 AM (ozZau)

162 Aestius, when have the Fae not be at least a little bit creepy? As for the sword, perhaps it is wielded by magic?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 01:23 AM (fr2Vz)

163 You wanna know a ship design from sci-fi that made a huge impression on me as a kid: The Cygnus from The Black Hole. The movie might have been campy crap, but I loved the look of that ship. Gothic cool. Plus I just loved the parts where they explore the ship (The Captain walking through the abandoned crew quarters.)

The ship had a very gothic kind of feel that I have not seen much before or since. The anti-sleek.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:25 AM (3ZoRf)

164 The way the media memory holes uncomfortable facts for the democrats would give Stalin a boner.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 01:25 AM (C/jFU)

165 Cygnus was the Eiffel Tower in space.....

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 01:28 AM (fr2Vz)

166 The Summer Faerie Princess needs a belly button dangle...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 01:28 AM (kP16F)

167
163 You wanna know a ship design from sci-fi that made a huge impression on me as a kid: The Cygnus from The Black Hole. The movie might have been campy crap, but I loved the look of that ship. Gothic cool. Plus I just loved the parts where they explore the ship (The Captain walking through the abandoned crew quarters.)

The ship had a very gothic kind of feel that I have not seen much before or since. The anti-sleek.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:25 AM (3ZoRf)


There's a game on Steam called Battlefleet Gothic: Armada.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 01:28 AM (C/jFU)

168 I'm really looking forward to the reactions of all the people like harry
Reid who've been smearing the Kochs as worse than Hitler for years.
Their slander was so silly and over the top, I want to see them have to
eat what they vomited up. Just for entertainment.
---

The only ones that would EVER show the contrast of what Reid said about the Koch brothers than and what he says now would be the media. And the media will do NOTHING to harm their Queen in waiting.

They will pretend that Reid etc. always liked the Koch's, and that the Kochs always loved Hillary.

So it is written, so it shall be done.

/of course, that won't stop anyone from doing a video of their contrasting positions from then until now... and posting them all over Democrat sites... hint hint people.

Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at July 24, 2016 01:29 AM (tvyXw)

169 165 Cygnus was the Eiffel Tower in space.....
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 01:28 AM (fr2Vz)

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:31 AM (3ZoRf)

170 I'm really looking forward to the reactions of all the people like harry Reid who've been smearing the Kochs as worse than Hitler for years. Their slander was so silly and over the top, I want to see them have to eat what they vomited up. Just for entertainment.

Posted by: stace


Might be too far to presume that the MSM is going to ask them in direct terms. Particularly without a carefully pre- negotiated 'talking points' memo.

imho, the Koch bros nonsense was nothing more than red-meat waving for the leftist base. The average, a-policital voter and the independents didn't know or care who they are.

I think the wikileaks DNC "keep them ignorant" email is far, far more tillable soil.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 01:32 AM (VY8H5)

171 You wanna know a ship design from sci-fi that made a huge impression on me as a kid: The Cygnus from The Black Hole. The movie might have been campy crap, but I loved the look of that ship. Gothic cool. Plus I just loved the parts where they explore the ship (The Captain walking through the abandoned crew quarters.)

The ship had a very gothic kind of feel that I have not seen much before or since. The anti-sleek.


Posted by: Aetius451AD
****

I thought that was a good movie and liked the ship too.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 01:34 AM (hVdx9)

172 Still visiting with my 90 year old Dad at his place in the Ozarks. After thoroughly beating my ass in cards (Shanghai) we knocked back a few on his back deck and then we watched Flags of Our Fathers tonight. During the movie he retold his WWII story as a B-29 pilot recruit but the war ended before he could complete training.

He later asked me if I ever saw his older brother's (my Uncle Rich) letters to home from WWII as a sniper over in Europe (France, Germany, Holland, Belgium). I said no and he went to his office and came back with a 3 ring binder of letters from January 29, 1944- May 25, 1945. Wow...I never knew.

Just wondering if there is any interest here at Ace's place for me to post so others can also read a WWII soldiers letters to back home?

RIP Uncle Rich



Posted by: Alf767 at July 24, 2016 01:36 AM (qGI+A)

173 "Ignorance Is Bliss"... That would be a good campaign slogan for The Haggard Queen, yes?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 01:36 AM (kP16F)

174 I thought that was a good movie and liked the ship too.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 01:34 AM (hVdx9)

The movie has... issues. The setting and tone at times feel like horror, quite a bit for a Disney movie. However, they also mix in at various points the wacky droids, which usually kind of derailed the tenor that they had set up to that point. Mix in a sound track that does very well for the dark parts, but feels strained during the action sequences (kind of a rip off of Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica.)

Plus, the ending just kind of goes weird. What exactly did Maximilian and Reinhardt do at the end there?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:37 AM (3ZoRf)

175 In space there is no need for the sleekness seen with Discovery 1, but grid work ship designs means lots and lots and lots of hidden nooks where a micro-meteorite or even debris from the ship itself could nick something and be impossible to find.

Better to make a ship sleek with panels designed to absorb and dissipate impacts.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 01:37 AM (fr2Vz)

176 Watched Batman vs Superman today. They put Wonder Woman in a photo from 1918 in there. So some fore back shadowing.

Posted by: Willy J. at July 24, 2016 01:38 AM (mRvs9)

177 Odd, on the Wikipedia page for The Black Hole, there is mention of Disney's plan to remake the movie. No updates since securing a writer for the script in 2013.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:40 AM (3ZoRf)

178 You wanna know a ship design from sci-fi that made a huge impression on me as a kid: The Cygnus from The Black Hole. The movie might have been campy crap, but I loved the look of that ship. Gothic cool. Plus I just loved the parts where they explore the ship (The Captain walking through the abandoned crew quarters.)

The ship had a very gothic kind of feel that I have not seen much before or since. The anti-sleek.


Posted by: Aetius451AD


I barely remember seeing it as a kid. I did like a lot and am sure if I watched now, I'd be disappointed.

I think Maximilian stole the stole. It was a mechanical demon like no other.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 01:40 AM (VY8H5)

179 Anything that travels interstellar space at a reasonable pace is going to need a mighty "ablation shield"!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 01:41 AM (kP16F)

180 One major plus Wonder Woman has going for it. It's not directed by Zack Snyder.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 01:41 AM (C/jFU)

181 I remember most of the publicity for The Black Hole being "OMG, Disney made a movie that's rated PG!!"

Outside of that, the reviews were lackluster. Wasn't until Splash in 1984 when people said Disney had finally found the magic "not just for kids" movie formula.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 01:41 AM (q7T0y)

182 Poor Anthony Perkins - death by Cuisinart

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 01:42 AM (fr2Vz)

183 Still visiting with my 90 year old Dad at his place in the Ozarks. After thoroughly beating my ass in cards (Shanghai) we knocked back a few on his back deck and then we watched Flags of Our Fathers tonight. During the movie he retold his WWII story as a B-29 pilot recruit but the war ended before he could complete training.

He later asked me if I ever saw his older brother's (my Uncle Rich) letters to home from WWII as a sniper over in Europe (France, Germany, Holland, Belgium). I said no and he went to his office and came back with a 3 ring binder of letters from January 29, 1944- May 25, 1945. Wow...I never knew.

Just wondering if there is any interest here at Ace's place for me to post so others can also read a WWII soldiers letters to back home?

RIP Uncle Rich


Posted by: Alf767
****

I would love to see them myself.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 01:42 AM (hVdx9)

184 175 In space there is no need for the sleekness seen with Discovery 1, but grid work ship designs means lots and lots and lots of hidden nooks where a micro-meteorite or even debris from the ship itself could nick something and be impossible to find.

Better to make a ship sleek with panels designed to absorb and dissipate impacts.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 01:37 AM (fr2Vz)

I am not arguing with practicality. I just thought it was kind of a beautiful idea- and different. Plus, this is Sci-fi, they can always come up with something. Shields.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:42 AM (3ZoRf)

185 Just wondering if there is any interest here at Ace's place for me to post so others can also read a WWII soldiers letters to back home?

RIP Uncle Rich
Posted by: Alf767
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'Interest' would be an understatement. Post away!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2016 01:44 AM (w/iDp)

186 Anything that travels interstellar space at a reasonable pace is going to need a mighty "ablation shield"!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki


The 'Alcubierre drive' won't need one. The small amt of space stuff will be warped around the ship.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 01:45 AM (VY8H5)

187 Just wondering if there is any interest here at Ace's place for me to post so others can also read a WWII soldiers letters to back home?

RIP Uncle Rich



Posted by: Alf767 at July 24, 2016 01:36 AM (qGI+A)


I, for one, would like to read them. Muldoon posted reports from his father's experiences in the Italian campaign.


It's important that first-hand documents like that be preserved and published.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2016 01:45 AM (htBb9)

188 Alf767, I'd say "yes" to your query about interest here at the HQ for WWII letters from your relative.


Our resident punster and one of the HQ medical staff Muldoon serialized his father's war diary from action in Italy with the field artillery. He usually put a segment each day in the early morning thread.


So - please consider, as you read through the letters, posting excerpts and factual context (if you have it, or can find it - and that may be a wonderful black hole of research pulling you in ....).


Just one moron's view.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2016 01:45 AM (QDnY+)

189 The movie has... issues. The setting and tone at times feel like horror, quite a bit for a Disney movie. However, they also mix in at various points the wacky droids, which usually kind of derailed the tenor that they had set up to that point. Mix in a sound track that does very well for the dark parts, but feels strained during the action sequences (kind of a rip off of Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica.)

Plus, the ending just kind of goes weird. What exactly did Maximilian and Reinhardt do at the end there?


Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Even as a kid I liked that it wasn't the typical Disney fluff (loved Johnny Quest because bad guys actually died). The bots were cool too.
Read the book... a long time ago. Max and Reinhardt merge and become one because of the black hole or something. It was a type of punishment if you will.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 01:45 AM (hVdx9)

190 RIP Uncle Rich



Posted by: Alf767 at July 24, 2016 01:36 AM (qGI+A)

Sure, I would love to see them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:45 AM (3ZoRf)

191 Shields. SHIELDS!!!!!!

Posted by: Capt. Hikaru Sulu USS Excelsior at July 24, 2016 01:46 AM (WDg5t)

192 Still waiting for the "real" ONT...

Posted by: mindful webworker - tapping foot impatiently at July 24, 2016 01:47 AM (rNruR)

193 I think this is the real ONT...

unless, of course, folks want to see lots more Yoko.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 01:48 AM (q7T0y)

194 Huh, the music was done by John Barry, of James Bond fame.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:48 AM (3ZoRf)

195 Seems to me the ideal starship design would be a sphere, unless technical considerations imposed by the drive precludes that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2016 01:48 AM (htBb9)

196
Poor Anthony Perkins - death by Cuisinart

Janet Leigh's revenge.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2016 01:48 AM (IqV8l)

197 The sword is creeped out by the creepy face and is actively trying to get away.

Posted by: reason at July 24, 2016 01:49 AM (nKoz8)

198 Current (an foreseeable future) Comic book movies are guided by the successful formula thats been demonstrated over the last decade plus. Raimi Spiderman, Nolan Batman, Iron Man, X-Men, Deadpool, The Avengers etc.....(Hope Suicide Squad joins the list)

Origin....Crisis...(more Crisis, sometimes)....Redemption/Perseverance. Intro/tie in the next batch of Heroes etc...reboot whenever. Tell same story over again cause people will pay to see it.

They all follow the same formula. Done correctly, its a proven money maker.

But of course, the formula ain't nothin new.

Richard Donner set the standard 38 years ago.

Evenin y'all....hope all is well with the Horde oh Plenty.

Btw, the VINCENT toy kicked ass....very cool.

Also had the TBH record/read along book as a kid. Star Wars, Star Trek, an Old school G.I.Joe too. Late 70's, early 80's. Mattel record player I think. Ugly fuckin tan color, but built like a tank.

Wow, haven't thought of any of that in many years.

Any of the Horde remember those?

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 24, 2016 01:49 AM (LQE71)

199 195 Seems to me the ideal starship design would be a sphere, unless technical considerations imposed by the drive precludes that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2016 01:48 AM (htBb9)

Reminds me of Ringo's Troy books: the battlestations he conceives in them are inflated molten asteoids, that he moves with an ORION drive. A fun book series.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:50 AM (3ZoRf)

200 "he retold his WWII story as a B-29 pilot recruit but the war ended before he could complete training."

It's amazing that any of the B-29 crew pipeline ever finished training.

Per the recollections of a pilot who entered the B-17 sequence as a recruit, then got yanked and put into the B-29 training, at a time when the manuals were still being written as the plane was built, the B-29 was a whole different ball game.

Far more complex. So much stuff to remember, and so much that could go wrong.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2016 01:50 AM (noWW6)

201 Oh, Alf767, and speaking for myself again, I'd love to hear your dad's story on B-29 training.


A good friend's father just completed training and was on his first deployment - as a pilot of an SB-2C dive-bomber on a fleet carrier - bound from Pearl to Ulithi when the emperor's recorded message over Japanese radio ended the festivities.


His scrapbook - with excellent photos, including the "classified" one showing him ditching his F-8 Bearcat a few years after the war - had the words "just too late" penned under the last photo of his SB-2C on the carrier deck.


So - consider that as well.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2016 01:50 AM (QDnY+)

202 Still visiting with my 90 year old Dad in the Ozarks. After thoroughly beating my ass at cards (Shanghai) we tossed back a few on his deck and then watched Flags of our Fathers. During the movie he recounted his story as a B-29 pilot recruit (which I've always known) but the war ended before he could complete training.

Later he asked me if I ever knew about his big brother (and my Uncle Rich's) letters to home from Belgium, Germany, Holland and France as a sniper during WWII. I said I had no idea and he came back with a 3 ring binder of letters from January 29, 1944-May 25, 1945.Wow...

If ther is any interest here at Aces's place, I'll be glad to post the letters which is fascinating story from WWII.

RIP Uncle Rich

Posted by: Alf767 at July 24, 2016 01:52 AM (qGI+A)

203 I've read that a practical interstellar vessel might actually have a scoop-like bow, (instead of some sort of shield) to collect the interstellar medium (mostly hydrogen atoms, I suppose) and add it to its fuel supply as reactive mass...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 01:53 AM (kP16F)

204 Reminds me of Ringo's Troy books: the battlestations he conceives in them are inflated molten asteoids, that he moves with an ORION drive. A fun book series.

Posted by: Aetius451AD


Yep. Why build a ship when large rocks are just waiting to be abused?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 01:53 AM (VY8H5)

205 Anyone here ever see Ronald Reagan's last major film, "The Killers" from 1964?

I know he played one of the bad guys (and slaps the crap out of Angie Dickinson).

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 01:53 AM (q7T0y)

206 Splash in 1984

I was too young to quite understand why i loved that movie, but old enough to really love that movie for various wrong reasons.

Posted by: reason at July 24, 2016 01:53 AM (nKoz8)

207 Seems to me the ideal starship design would be a sphere, unless technical considerations imposed by the drive precludes that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2016 01:48 AM (htBb9)


Whereas H. Beam Piper would agree with you, David Drake would state that "a spherical ship can't aim its guns together in a volley even if God himself were laying them."

Posted by: Kindltot at July 24, 2016 01:54 AM (ry34m)

208 reason, my favorite scene in Splash:

Eugene Levy desperately chasing and throwing water on a woman walking down the street (and who's with her jealous husband), whom he *thinks* is the escaped Darryl Hannah... but who isn't. LOL.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 01:55 AM (q7T0y)

209 204 - I got mah eye on you...

Posted by: SMOD at July 24, 2016 01:56 AM (nKoz8)

210 Whereas H. Beam Piper would agree with you, David Drake would state that "a spherical ship can't aim its guns together in a volley even if God himself were laying them."

Posted by: Kindltot at July 24, 2016 01:54 AM (ry34m)


So, basically they are War Balls?

Posted by: The Spherical Hat at July 24, 2016 01:56 AM (vBeA5)

211 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 24, 2016 01:58 AM (T/cxb)

212 Perhaps these spherical ships could fire volleys if the came in pairs...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 01:59 AM (kP16F)

213 Heh, yes!

Eugene Levy and John Candy. Every movie was better with those two.

Posted by: reason at July 24, 2016 02:00 AM (nKoz8)

214 Splash best scene:

Hanna's character nom's into a lobster, shell and all, with Hanks trying to ignore it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 02:01 AM (VY8H5)

215 210 - no, they are Space Balls!

Posted by: reason at July 24, 2016 02:01 AM (nKoz8)

216 Thanks guys, sorry if I posted my question twice, I got the Internet connection lost message after my first try. Just skimmed through some of the letters and damn if I didn't get all teary eyed. Uncle Rich was a great guy and my Dad will be thrilled in the am that other people want to read about his experiences during WWII. Thanks again.

Posted by: Alf767 at July 24, 2016 02:03 AM (qGI+A)

217 I gotta go with Darryl trashing the TV store.

Posted by: reason at July 24, 2016 02:04 AM (nKoz8)

218 210 - no, they are Space Balls!

Posted by: reason
****

Space Balls? Oh, sh*t. There goes the planet.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 02:04 AM (hVdx9)

219 Whereas H. Beam Piper would agree with you, David Drake would state that "a spherical ship can't aim its guns together in a volley even if God himself were laying them."

Posted by: Kindltot at July 24, 2016 01:54 AM (ry34m)


Heh. Bound by 18th-Century thinking, Drake is. I wouldn't expect interstellar ships to have "guns" as such at all. Reaction and all that, you know. Particle-beam weapons, maybe. Missiles, most likely. Weapons, in any case, so powerful, that a direct hit equals a kill. And if the opponents' vessel has adequate shields, if one gun cannot pierce them, neither can a whole battery. Better to have a diversity of weapon types, so if one type fails to get the job done, another may. Backups, of course. But a whole battery of guns, firing a broadside? Nope.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2016 02:05 AM (htBb9)

220 Spherical ship could do a death blossom with having to spin around.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2016 02:05 AM (IqV8l)

221 Oh, Lady Ghostbusters down to #5 so far this weekend. That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:06 AM (3ZoRf)

222 AOP -

The slow blade penetrates the shield.

True in Dune, and in....well....other matters, in my experience.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 24, 2016 02:08 AM (KHrVb)

223 You know, the spherical space ship thing's been done.

Twice.

They aren't nearly as good in practice as they are in theory.

Posted by: Anniken Skywalker at July 24, 2016 02:09 AM (nKoz8)

224 The new Ghostbusters will definitely be a flop.

That won't stop the studios from doubling down however. "We need moar transwhatevers!!!1!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:09 AM (q7T0y)

225 Drake was envisioning manually directed and fired plasma cannon along the lines of the English/Spanish technology split during the period just prior to and during the Spanish Armada.
It makes for a rousing tale, but it makes certain assumptions about technology and human ability.


Posted by: Kindltot at July 24, 2016 02:09 AM (ry34m)

226 It depends upon which era of Piper you might be talking about in his TFH. Now Damnthing and other ships in Space Pirates had missiles and guns. Plus the odd Hell Burner if you were really cheesed at someone.

Then there is Saberhagen's Beserker planetoids that had missiles, beam weapons, and all other kinds of 'fun' to deal with Bad Life.

A spherical planetoid allows for almost no blind spots left uncovered. But if like Drake is thinking 'Ship of the Line' of course the whole broadside won't be able to bear. But enough will to ream any ship design like the space battleship Yamato's axial design from one of that ship's many blind spots. Unless the planetoid's captain allows the Wave Motion Gun to lock on. Then it's well nice knowing you.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:11 AM (fr2Vz)

227 Ghostbustys will win tons of Oscars. Because women.

Posted by: reason at July 24, 2016 02:12 AM (nKoz8)

228
221 Oh, Lady Ghostbusters down to #5 so far this weekend. That's gonna leave a mark.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:06 AM (3ZoRf)


That's about what I expected. With Star Trek Beyond and another ice age movie it was going to be at best number 4. The only chance it had was secret life of pets and ice age splitting the family/kids movie audience.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 02:12 AM (C/jFU)

229 Spherical ship could do a death blossom with having to spin around.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.


Nahmbah One, get the cleaning crew in here again to clean up the screen!

And my knickahs!

Posted by: Weft Luke Picard at July 24, 2016 02:12 AM (VY8H5)

230 Anna, I have a deep love for Bujold's "gravitic implosion lance" and the discussion of technology affecting the standoff for battle distances.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 24, 2016 02:14 AM (ry34m)

231 reason, eh.

I think the Academy is far more likely to go gaga over this civil war movie that's coming out soon, "The Birth Of A Nation."

(No, NOT a remake of D.W. Griffith's film. Thank God.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:14 AM (q7T0y)

232 I'd had it with sci-fi years ago after suffering through watching "Babylon 5" with the lovely and long-suffering Mrs Ryoiki...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 02:14 AM (kP16F)

233 224 The new Ghostbusters will definitely be a flop.

That won't stop the studios from doubling down however. "We need moar transwhatevers!!!1!!" :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:09 AM (q7T0y)

Yeah, 144 million stated budget (and I am sure they spent a ton on advertising too) and already less than half the opening total.

Someone should lose their job. They can do their social programming all they want, the film actually has to be good though.

Although it is kind of interesting to ask: if they had not made it into a political/social chew toy with their marketing and response to critics of the trailers, would it have done better or worse?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:15 AM (3ZoRf)

234 Aetius, good question. Some of the new GB's baggage was installed there by the marketing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:15 AM (q7T0y)

235 Aetius raises an interesting question:

If a premise shits the bed but no one's in the room, does it make a mess?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 24, 2016 02:16 AM (KHrVb)

236 As for Ghostbusted... Star Trek with approximately 200 fewer theater screens pulled in on opening $5.5 million versus $4.5 million for the other film.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:17 AM (fr2Vz)

237 Kateurday Emergency ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/756912500231303170

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/756912607144120320

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/756912719903592448

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/756912856998768640

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/756912971742343169

Posted by: kbdabear at July 24, 2016 02:17 AM (Fiycx)

238 232 I'd had it with sci-fi years ago after suffering through watching "Babylon 5" with the lovely and long-suffering Mrs Ryoiki...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 02:14 AM (kP16F)

Babylon 5 is another one that you never want to watch again if you liked it the first time around.

Did you ever give Farscape a watch? IMO, possibly the best original science fiction show in the past 20 years.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:17 AM (3ZoRf)

239 I've seen the trailer for Ice Age: Collision Course... It's got a spaceship in it!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 02:18 AM (kP16F)

240 More Kateurday Emergency ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/756913178316070912

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/756913300806438912

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/756913428455952385

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/756913552779247616

Posted by: kbdabear at July 24, 2016 02:18 AM (Fiycx)

241 Night folks. Off to the snoozer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2016 02:18 AM (htBb9)

242 Actually, I am predicting that some #BLM "the story of our oppression" flick will get slapped together and released just under the deadline for this season's consideration.

It will pick up a nom in every category and several wins.

Because last year.

Posted by: reason at July 24, 2016 02:18 AM (nKoz8)

243 Coming soon to a theater in Japan - Godzilla Resurgence

https://youtu.be/hNwORVbNN-s

Be interesting to see how the fans react to Anno's concept of the big glowing lizard.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:19 AM (fr2Vz)

244 @220...

We need a modern incarnation of the Gunstar spreadin a little Deathblossom Love.

$15mil for that sequence alone in the reboot. At least.

I guess the owner of the movie rights figures Hwood would fuck up a reboot and disgrace the original. Probably a safe bet.

Grig's got shotgun.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 24, 2016 02:20 AM (LQE71)

245 Alf767, I'd be more than interested, I'd build threads around them. Email me at my nic at the gee, mail! Thingy and we can plan it out.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 24, 2016 02:20 AM (N8hFs)

246 I'm looking forward to Godzilla's "coming out as trans" flick and he's heretofore known as Godzilette.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:21 AM (q7T0y)

247 @238, Aetius

Sounds familiar. I probably have. The missus is a big sci-fi fan...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 02:21 AM (kP16F)

248 Hollywood is also way, WAY overdue for a good new western.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:21 AM (q7T0y)

249 qdpsteve, Japan was way ahead of that curve with all the movies with the Son of Godzilla.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:21 AM (fr2Vz)

250 Anna, the Son was a mixed-up goofy sort, eh? Always letting down his old man? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:22 AM (q7T0y)

251 249 qdpsteve, Japan was way ahead of that curve with all the movies with the Son of Godzilla.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:21 AM (fr2Vz)

Wasn't that Godzuki?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:23 AM (3ZoRf)

252 Although it is kind of interesting to ask: if they had not made it into a political/social chew toy with their marketing and response to critics of the trailers, would it have done better or worse?

Posted by: Aetius451AD


Legit question.

With Feig as EP? No.

The problem that the few neutral critics have mentioned is that there is too much ad-libbed dialogue.

The actors didn't know their characters well enough to pull it off. So even if Feig hired the likes of Paul Rudd, Jim Gaffigan, Kevin Hart, and Bill Burr it still would have suck the sewers of the Bronx on a hot, wet night.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 02:24 AM (VY8H5)

253 246 - God-zhe-ra. The new face of cis-fi.

Posted by: reason at July 24, 2016 02:24 AM (nKoz8)

254 Just be very, very happy Japan has never cursed us with their secret, all-time scariest godforsaken creature of death and destruction:

GodzYoko!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:24 AM (q7T0y)

255 reason, there you go.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:25 AM (q7T0y)

256 Godzuki was a horrible American cartoon comic sidekick for Godzilla. Minira is one of the names given to the Son of Godzilla.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:25 AM (fr2Vz)

257 If a premise shits the bed but no one's in the room, does it make a mess?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 24, 2016 02:16 AM (KHrVb)


Is it possible for an idea to be asinine, jujune, and just plain wrong without a critical listener to critique it? Is poor conception, misunderstanding of premise, history, and basic understanding of logic and cause and effect IN ITSELF a flaw, or must it be observed as being "so wrong and stupid that it cannot be fixed, only paved over"?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 24, 2016 02:28 AM (ry34m)

258 Godzilla with tits and heels... Nothing would surprise me at this point!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 02:29 AM (kP16F)

259 Bob Eggleton does a lot of Godzilla art and other stuff

http://www.bobeggleton.com/mainframe2.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:30 AM (fr2Vz)

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 02:31 AM (kP16F)

261 Yo.

Back to Wonder Woman...I'm thinking the producers went with WWI because Captain America's first movie was set in WWII. Maybe they didn't want to go to that well.

The trailer looks great.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 24, 2016 02:31 AM (rJUlF)

262 Call me Caitzilla.

Posted by: Godzilla with tits and heels at July 24, 2016 02:32 AM (nKoz8)

263 Zettai, Godzilla's tearing up another city, when he suddenly comes across a Dress Barn location... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:32 AM (q7T0y)

264 Kindltot-

There are some 'works of art' like that. Recall P.J. O'Rourke discussing the fall of the ussr. He mentioned that in red square, I think it was, tourists could openly buy art that the soviet authorities used to 'critique with bulldozers.' That phrase stuck with me - there really are some works of art that require earthmoving equipment as a response.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 24, 2016 02:32 AM (KHrVb)

265 243 Coming soon to a theater in Japan - Godzilla Resurgence

https://youtu.be/hNwORVbNN-s

Be interesting to see how the fans react to Anno's concept of the big glowing lizard.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:19 AM (fr2Vz)

Honestly, aside from the glowing, it looks pretty much exactly like the classic Godzilla movie I remember seeing, just with modern, updated bargain basement effects.

Probably more fun than the recent big budget one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:32 AM (3ZoRf)

266 252 Although it is kind of interesting to ask: if they had not made it into a political/social chew toy with their marketing and response to critics of the trailers, would it have done better or worse?

Posted by: Aetius451AD

Legit question.

With Feig as EP? No.

The problem that the few neutral critics have mentioned is that there is too much ad-libbed dialogue.

The actors didn't know their characters well enough to pull it off. So even if Feig hired the likes of Paul Rudd, Jim Gaffigan, Kevin Hart, and Bill Burr it still would have suck the sewers of the Bronx on a hot, wet night.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 02:24 AM (VY8H5)


A lot of reviews seem to be of the opinion that "the actors were decent. The story was shit." I almost wonder if someone at Sony saw the early cut and went " oh god this is shit!" And decree pushing the feminism angle was its only hope.

I think it probably would have wound up the same way even if they didn't go all out on the "if you don't like it you hate women" angle.

And the story is Feig's fault. He's the one that wanted the full reboot and no connection to the original.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 02:33 AM (C/jFU)

267 I never felt accepted as a pupa. Now that my transition is complete, i truly feel like myself.

I'm so happy, I could level a major city!

Posted by: Mothra at July 24, 2016 02:35 AM (nKoz8)

268 Amadeus

Salieri tells the priest a personal story.

https://youtu.be/3-esvGwDHCY

Although the movie was perfectly cast, the play featured Ian McKellan, Tim Curry, and Jane Seymore.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 24, 2016 02:35 AM (VdICR)

269 Belgium
January 8, 1945

Dear Folks,

You probably were surprised to get your own letter back but I wanted to write and had no paper so I used the back of yours.

These Belgium people sure are nice to us, they haven't much for themselves but what they have they share gladly with us.

There will be a request in every letter so you can keep the boxes coming. I could use a new pipe right now as I broke the stem off mine.

If you can't read this writing it's because I am writing it on the back of a cow and the critter won't stand still.

We have about 8 inches of snow and it's still coming down. We get pretty good food but it can't compare with home cooking. When I get home you will be busy cooking all the things I would like to have again. The cookies were still very good because you wrapped them well.

The fudge was good. Believe it or not but I made some the other day. We took over a house in a captured town and I was cook for the day. We picked up a few extra rations including sugar and cocoa so I made the boys some fudge.

We were up at the front for a while and they dropped a few shells on us but for every one they sent over we sent a hundred back.

I am wearing a dish towel for a scarf so please send me one.

So long, Rich

Posted by: Alf767 at July 24, 2016 02:38 AM (qGI+A)

270 Are you haters trying to de-reptilise my authetic self?

Posted by: Caitzilla at July 24, 2016 02:38 AM (kP16F)

271 And the story is Feig's fault. He's the one that wanted the full reboot and no connection to the original.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 02:33 AM (C/jFU)

I do not even think the idea of the women cast was a terrible idea, on it's face. I think it was the deliberate pissing on the fans of the originals that was the real kicker.

Obviously you could not do a direct sequel. Murray seems to have no desire to do it and Harrold Ramis is dead. If you were going to d o it with a new cast, trying to pull in the fans of the old one seemed to be a wise move to make, from a money side of things.

Reboots make money because you have a core of fans of the originals who want to see what you did with it. Reboots do not work if you look at everything that made the original popular, and then say, ok let's get rid of all of this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:38 AM (3ZoRf)

272 The fault lies entirely with Feig. First for having no idea about the premise. And then no one willing to say 'hey! this really stinks and we need think on it.'

As Comic Book Girl 19 on YouTube commented about the original Ghostbusters, Gozer was supposed to have been the first boss monster they encounter 20 minutes into the film and then they realized they would need a $300 million budget for the whole movie. So they set their sights lower and made it about how it all started.

Apparently no one told Feig to stop. And he apparently never told the actresses to stop at any time. So you have dog vomit on the screen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:38 AM (fr2Vz)

273 Hey! What am I? Chopped liver?

Posted by: Rodanielle at July 24, 2016 02:40 AM (kP16F)

274 260
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 02:31 AM (kP16F)
-------------------------
! ! !

Posted by: Marcel Marceau at July 24, 2016 02:40 AM (T/5A0)

275 Rodan!?

You got your goose cooked with your mate in that giant pool of molten lava. You're now rotisserie at Wal-Mart.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2016 02:41 AM (fr2Vz)

276 If you can't read this writing it's because I am writing it on the back of a cow and the critter won't stand still.

Posted by: Alf767 at July 24, 2016 02:38 AM (qGI+A)

Well, the cow has a guy poking it with a pen! You'd move too.

Great stuff.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:41 AM (3ZoRf)

277 there really are some works of art that require earthmoving equipment as a response.

I know just the sculpture to test this theory on!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 24, 2016 02:42 AM (T/cxb)

278 Caitzilla is an inspiration for us all!

Posted by: 90% of the giant monster villains in the Power Rangers universe at July 24, 2016 02:43 AM (nKoz8)

279 The true, final critic of flawed logic is nature and reality.

Having said that, even existentialism and solipsism quail in the face of large, diesel powered equipment.

Palpatine, if you have the chance, find Iain Banks' Against a Dark Background
( http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/0316036374 ).

One of the bit players is a gang of solipsist mercenaries. They wear Day-Glo cammos. At one point the main character decides to take a powder after watching the driver of the squad APC start scowling at a fountain while pensively revving the engine.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 24, 2016 02:43 AM (ry34m)

280 Re: 260

I don't know how that happens, but I do it all. the. time.

Posted by: Rodanielle at July 24, 2016 02:44 AM (kP16F)

281 Blanco -

Architecture wise - Boston City Hall. The architect and everyone who didn't resort to lethal violence to stop the thing proved themselves enemies of Man. In a just and same nation, we'd have purged them four generations amd destroyed all trace that such monsters ever existed.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 24, 2016 02:46 AM (KHrVb)

282 If you can't read this writing it's because I am writing it on the back of a cow and the critter won't stand still.

Posted by: Alf767


Have you tried playing Katy Perry? I've heard they recognize their own.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 02:46 AM (VY8H5)

283 I don't recall ever doing the "sock" thing here. It feels.....empowering!

Posted by: Rodanielle at July 24, 2016 02:47 AM (kP16F)

284 Palpatine, you're not a fan of brutalism I take it. ;-)

I've seen the pictures of Boston City Hall. I've read that when a lot of people first saw that thing... they moved somewhere else.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:47 AM (q7T0y)

285 Just remember, never "sock" Ace.

Posted by: Guy who should knoow better at July 24, 2016 02:48 AM (nKoz8)

286 Architecture wise - Boston City Hall. The architect and everyone who didn't resort to lethal violence to stop the thing proved themselves enemies of Man. In a just and same nation, we'd have purged them four generations amd destroyed all trace that such monsters ever existed.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 24, 2016 02:46 AM (KHrVb)

Yep, that's one big pile of ugly. Remind me why we got rid of the deco look from the Empire State building again?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:49 AM (3ZoRf)

287 Qdp -

Course they moved. Look at that building - it's like the nazis and Aztecs teamed up.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 24, 2016 02:50 AM (KHrVb)

288 The audience has noticed the pattern of reboots, of mining old material without any real regard for it. Maybe they were a lightning rod for a pattern finally recognized, but they deserved it. Paul Feig's obvious contempt for nerds, his prime audience at this point, makes him uniquely unqualified in a way that should have been spotted before pre-production.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 24, 2016 02:51 AM (VdICR)

289 Looks like Scotland's "First Minister" is playing in la-la land when it comes to Brexit...

http://bit.ly/2aDuHGl

Posted by: The Hatxit at July 24, 2016 02:52 AM (vBeA5)

290 Architecture wise - Boston City Hall.

I was walking past that with my girlfriend and she said "oh, that's brutalist".

Being foreign type Italian she often had an interesting way of turning a phrase in American and I thought she had just done that.

Brutalism is a style defined by building with raw (brut, in French) concrete. It's just that the results are always brutal in the colloquial sense.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 24, 2016 02:52 AM (mgbwf)

291 A lot of good new superhero movie trailers at www.firstshowing.net.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Barky at July 24, 2016 02:52 AM (DbK5n)

292 Palpatine, yup.

There are some fairly recent architects who weren't insane; William Perreira (who designed Irvine) comes to mind.

OTOH we're stuck today with Frank Gehry and his wavy lines. Geez.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:53 AM (q7T0y)

293 Here it is: http://preview.tinyurl.com/jeakby8

Bulldozer to remove it, followed by bleach to disinfect the pedestal it sits on. Or at least Chlorox wipes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 24, 2016 02:54 AM (T/cxb)

294 Been geeking out on Star Trek stuff I never knew about.
Yamato class ships? Invincible class? Holy shite!

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 02:54 AM (hVdx9)

295 Anybody who builds that way has a grudge against humanity, and is sufficiently evil to make his venegance last for decades.

Honestly, think how many millions of souls died, just a little, every time the walked past, saw, or remembered that place.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 24, 2016 02:55 AM (KHrVb)

296 What is it with TV news helicopter pilots, and tits and heels? We've got "Zoe Tur" who strangled Ben Shapiro to within an inch of his life during a live interview, and also xyzir former competitor pilot in the LA market, and I've read recently an "eye-in-the-sky" chopper pilot in Boston has got tits and heels now too...

Posted by: Rodanielle at July 24, 2016 02:55 AM (kP16F)

297 How unpopular was the architectural style of brutalism back in the day?

Prince freakin' Charles actually at one point spoke out about it, begging architects to abandon it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 02:56 AM (q7T0y)

298 Begone, president NickleFucker sock!

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2016 02:57 AM (DbK5n)

299 Obligatory Godzilla mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65rW_SIzg0

Posted by: The Kaiju's Hat at July 24, 2016 02:58 AM (vBeA5)

300 You all have a good night.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 02:58 AM (3ZoRf)

301 Last time I was in Boston there was a large homeless encampment in the plaza at City Hall... Oh, and remember the Central Art? Yeah, I tore that down myself!

Posted by: Rodanielle at July 24, 2016 02:58 AM (kP16F)

302 Gotta say goodnight all, thanks for the fun chat. Happy Sunday!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2016 03:05 AM (q7T0y)

303 Now living authentically again as that strip of bare skin on a Japanese school girl's thighs

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 03:05 AM (kP16F)

304 Oyasumi nasai mina san!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 03:24 AM (kP16F)

305 Oyasumi nasai mina san!
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 24, 2016 03:24 AM (kP16F)[/i


Odd. That's not Anna Puma's hash.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 24, 2016 03:25 AM (mgbwf)

306 TCM is showing The Street Fighter. Its wonderfully cheesy. The Return of The Street Fighter is next.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 24, 2016 03:32 AM (nQNVp)

307 OK, this is annoying. My Chrome browser tells me to use alt +

Did someone decide that two handed shortcuts are more efficent than one backspace?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 24, 2016 03:33 AM (mgbwf)

308 That was alt + a back arrow. Pixy hates me too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 24, 2016 03:34 AM (mgbwf)

309 Now living authentically again as that strip of bare skin on a Japanese school girl's thighs

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki


Man, find a goat or something.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 03:37 AM (VY8H5)

310 For being a cheesy, low budget 1974 Japanese fight movie,The Street Figher is pretty gory. I like it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 24, 2016 03:40 AM (nQNVp)

311 Night all.

Here is "Starless" by King Crimson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAAqAnCBNKQ

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 24, 2016 03:41 AM (vBeA5)

312 Now living authentically again as that strip of bare skin on a Japanese school girl's thighs

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki

Man, find a goat or something.


Posted by: weft cut-loop
****
You got something against sheep?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at July 24, 2016 03:41 AM (hVdx9)

313 Don't know if this is true, relevant, or funny:

@vaidehisachin 3h

The sound of a gunshot brought down the trousers of the Pakistani defence minister - they talk of nuclear bombs

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2016 03:42 AM (VY8H5)

314 Watch, what? Television? I thought that was... actually probably could see that on the internet. Though, with cable television down I may be ending the internet in the next year or so. And stopping my smart phone program sooner, just going to land-line... even that straight to messaging. I doubt if I'll miss all that much.

I wonder how long before a lot more people start ditching some of this as well. It's addictive. What it adds is less than what it seems, to me, to take away and cost. Enjoy your show. I'll... I'm not sure? Maybe I'll get out more often. Or just enjoy a quieter life until I end.

What, prey tell, does a story about a collapse of a huge bonfire have to do with me? Or you? Maybe you have ties, though. I have no ties or cares. I'm more concerned about my neighbors.

Posted by: Doom at July 24, 2016 04:16 AM (4JtYT)

315 We had yellow clouds today. Started in the morning. Didnt think it was a fire since I smelled no smoke and saw nothing on the news, but apparently there was/is a big one. It's so hot I pity the firefighters and of course the people and animals fleeing for their lives.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:20 AM (iQIUe)

316 Someone really needs to ban the creepy obsessed stalker.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2016 04:23 AM (C/jFU)

317 Man, find a goat or something.

Posted by: weft cut-loop
****
You got something against sheep?

Just leave me out of it !!!

Posted by: The Chicken ... at July 24, 2016 04:23 AM (AoK0a)

318 #266

Plus ad-libbing was one of the great strengths of the original. Bill Murray's part had originally been created for John Belushi and Murray had some gaps to fill in. Some of his most memorable lines were not in the shooting script.

It seems like Feig has a standing resentment of every movie he ever felt like an outsider when watching with straight guys and is determined to avenge himself. Even if it means shitcanning his career instead of sticking to the highly successful niche he'd carved out for himself, comedies aimed mainly at women but not painful for the guys who lost the coin flip for who chose the night's flick.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 04:28 AM (IdCqF)

319 174 Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2016 01:37 AM (3ZoRf)

The ending was a representation of Dante's Inferno/Purgatory. Reinhardt became literally a Demonic Prince. If you read the novelization of it, it explains that the crew is flattened into a molecular pancake and they are in "heaven" via Kate's ESP(n.)

The comic book adaptation took the shuttle "making it" literally and had Maximillian/Reinhardt chasing the Crew in a new universe.

My son loved the Black Hole, and had it been on time, it would have been at worst a year after SW:ANH.

The Black Hole was a weird mix of the very old and some very innovative tech, of course it stumbled badly in some ways and is one of those films that HD treats unkindly.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 24, 2016 04:29 AM (SzZnW)

320 I, for one, was never surprised by the bonfire tradegy. I say that as one who employs many TAMU grads. Good kids, one and all.

But, when you have to teach a ME grad what the hell CFM means ...

Srsly, I knew CFM meant cubic feet per minute when I was 10 cleaning the air filters on lawn mowers.

These people are designing stuff that keeps you from dying every day. All day.

Think on that for a moment ...

Posted by: Bayou City's iPad at July 24, 2016 04:30 AM (lQSMb)

321 Over 20,000 acres now. When I came out of the gym Saturday morning, it smelled like there was an open wood fire nearby.

A friend in Sylmar said they were getting ash fall and the sun shining through the haze reminded him of some of the awful air pollution in Shanghai.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 04:31 AM (IdCqF)

322 325 Posted by: Bayou City's iPad at July 24, 2016 04:30 AM (lQSMb)

My foster family are engineers.

Their view on why Aggie Bonfire occurred(and they are LA Tech Alums) was a severe complacency and "well we got away with this again let's try harder to make it fail!" being a subconscious impulse.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 24, 2016 04:33 AM (SzZnW)

323 326 Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 04:31 AM (IdCqF)

Sounds intense, I worry about Mexifornia deciding State Policy is making a tinderbox.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 24, 2016 04:34 AM (SzZnW)

324 Coverage from the local paper:
http://www.signalscv.com/section/36/article/154746/

Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 04:35 AM (IdCqF)

325 318 Posted by: Doom at July 24, 2016 04:16 AM (4JtYT)

Cord cutters untie!

I am giving serious thought to spiking all Web Based entertainment next.

Aggie Bonfire matters b/c it was a failure of good people who misunderstood knowing what they know for knowing what is really in play, and the destruction of tradition by assholes who want a tissue paper world.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 24, 2016 04:36 AM (SzZnW)

326 The name they've slapped on the fire makes it sound very ominous: The Sand Fire. Like we have flammable sand here. It started near the Sand Canyon exit from the 14 Freeway that spurs off the 5 shortly before entering the Santa Clarita Valley and heads out toward the Antelope Valley, so Palmdale, Lancaster, Edwards Air Force Base.

Back in the day, even if you never had a reason to go to anything in the Antelope Valley, it was where you passed through on the way to Las Vegas depending on where you were starting. A few years back they finally connected the 210 to the 15, making for a much simpler route that many preferred even if it was a fair bit longer.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 04:41 AM (IdCqF)

327 339 Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 04:41 AM (IdCqF)

They name more shit every year, I figure soon they will name breezes and farts.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 24, 2016 04:42 AM (SzZnW)

328
Wonderful. The DOJ is suing towns to try to force them to grant permits for mosques to be built.

https://goo.gl/hOryTT

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:42 AM (iQIUe)

329 342 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2016 04:42 AM (iQIUe)

Yup, if one didn't know any better you'd think the US State Religion is Jihadi Jim Braying....

Posted by: sven10077 at July 24, 2016 04:45 AM (SzZnW)

330 Sven, I think I understood your comment,if so I agree with it.

I don't think anyone wants to be an idiot, they just are because they are taught by those like themselves.

I hate that I am lumped into the tail of the boomers. I was raised by the greatest generation. NO ONE who never had grease under their nails coul ever be anything other than a clerk. That is harsh, and I realize it, but if you really love something, you will spend your entire life doing it.

From the ground up. I did.

Posted by: Bayou City's iPad at July 24, 2016 04:50 AM (lQSMb)

331 322 #266

Plus ad-libbing was one of the great strengths of the original. Bill Murray's part had originally been created for John Belushi and Murray had some gaps to fill in. Some of his most memorable lines were not in the shooting script.

It seems like Feig has a standing resentment of every movie he ever felt like an outsider when watching with straight guys and is determined to avenge himself. Even if it means shitcanning his career instead of sticking to the highly successful niche he'd carved out for himself, comedies aimed mainly at women but not painful for the guys who lost the coin flip for who chose the night's flick.


Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 04:28 AM (IdCqF)



Is Feig actually gay? I mean I figure he probably is but everything he does comes across as hating men too much to even be attracted to one himself. If anything he would probably be preferred to be banged by a woman with a strap-on.

Posted by: buzzion at July 24, 2016 04:53 AM (bMG0w)

332 347 Posted by: Bayou City's iPad at July 24, 2016 04:50 AM (lQSMb)

Amen, I was raised by people just older than the Boomers, although technically I guess mom in Oct of 45 was one rest her soul.

Our culture is stupid and addicted to magic thinking, failure is the handmaiden of progress. We have to allow engineers the room to fail so they can grow and test new paradigms. The loss of life while tragic pales in comparison to some other engineering disasters.

The modern western left are at heart cargo-cultists, they think this species of upright chimps with forethought magically woke up one day and voila had internet, flight, and a slew of other technical marvels. The narcissism in "only now matters" drives me to the verge of insanity. Our species is at most 300,000-1,000,000 years old, and it is only in the last 5500 years or so we have documented historical proof of a record.

There was a LOT of hard work, and failure in getting to this 5500 year old span, and there are a lot of immutable truths to the human condition big thinkers with big ideas that never work think they can magically undo.

Sorry to be a downer, I just think when we leave it will be with a whimper not with a bang.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 24, 2016 04:59 AM (SzZnW)

333 349 Posted by: buzzion at July 24, 2016 04:53 AM (bMG0w)

Peg(ged) Leg Pete...

Can you imagine John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart looking down from heaven at this mess?

Posted by: sven10077 at July 24, 2016 05:00 AM (SzZnW)

334 #349

Well, IMDB says he has been married to a woman since 1994 but he is as affected a personality as I've ever seen. Such types were generally assumed to be closeted in the past when it wasn't publicly acceptable. No children are mentioned, so perhaps the wife is a beard.

He may not be gay but he makes himself out to be someone who was never comfortable in the company of typical straight men. He recently wrote a piece, I suppose intended as satire, in which he insisted men were not funny. The caricature he painted of 'men' struck me as saying more about himself than his subject. I've never fit his profile of 'men' but that doesn't change the fact that despite both of us liking MST3K and some other stuff in common, that his personality would really start to get on my my nerves with prolonged contact.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 05:12 AM (IdCqF)

335 Sven, I don't think you're being a downer necessarily. I find myself in that frame of mind often.

I look around and imagine the chaos resulting from a massive internet outage.

I figure something like 40% of us would say good, the other 60% would become catatonic.

That doesn't bode well, especially since that other 60% can vote.

Posted by: Bayou City's iPad at July 24, 2016 05:22 AM (lQSMb)

336 here we go!

Posted by: the truth at July 24, 2016 05:25 AM (DjBCL)

337 I'm bored and can't sleep. Somebody go poke Vic.

Posted by: Bayou City's iPad at July 24, 2016 05:25 AM (lQSMb)

338 where is that yo ..guy?

Posted by: the truth at July 24, 2016 05:26 AM (DjBCL)

339 So, I watched most of "Return of the Streefighter". I'll look upthread to see who to blame ;-)


It's interesting how many Tarantino scenes have been inspired by that. But it's not as if he didn't pay hommage by having Clarence take Alabama to a Streetfighter trilogy in his first script.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 24, 2016 05:27 AM (mgbwf)

340 math is your friend

the gov'nt is lying.

Posted by: the truth at July 24, 2016 05:27 AM (DjBCL)

341 OK, it was Puddleglum.

*pushes thumb across nose Bruce Lee style*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 24, 2016 05:28 AM (mgbwf)

342 "the gov'nt is lying."

Posted by: the truth at July 24, 2016 05:27 AM (DjBCL)

Liar.

Posted by: Thor's Staple Gun at July 24, 2016 05:31 AM (FoWDu)

343 Time to make the coffee
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2016 05:36 AM (bksJQ)

344 I tried to get a job with the government but they said I was too honest.

Posted by: Joe Isuzu at July 24, 2016 05:40 AM (WDg5t)

345 Mornin' Glories!

311 Night all.

Here is "Starless" by King Crimson:


Always loved that clip. Too bad the lyrics weren't finalized yet and Wetton kinda winged it there. But Good Lord in Heaven, the INTENSITY.

Bruford was fucking insanely good.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 24, 2016 05:41 AM (WlGX+)

346 It is morning isn't it? Good Morning then. Hopefully I can get more accomplished than the nothing I did yesterday.

I'm setting a low bar.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 24, 2016 05:45 AM (WVsWD)

347 " I tried to get a job with the government but they said I was too honest."

Ok. Seen that joke a thousand times but I still laugh at it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 24, 2016 05:47 AM (WVsWD)

348 346 It is morning isn't it? Good Morning then. Hopefully I can get more accomplished than the nothing I did yesterday.

I had a nice big to-do list yesterday, all of them involving going outdoors. Then I stayed inside all day due to the sweltering inferno outside.

Now I have an even bigger to-do list and it's going to be even hotter today.

Decisions, decisions...

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 24, 2016 05:49 AM (WlGX+)

349 Decisions, decisions...

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 24, 2016 05:49 AM (WlGX+)

I had stuff to do inside. Spent most of yesterday outside with Kids on the Slip and Slide, in the small Pool we have and hosing them down.

Even nailed my Wife with a Water Balloon on the back of the head.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 24, 2016 05:53 AM (WVsWD)

350 I watched Clinton Cash on Britebart, it wasn't anything I didn't suspect .but pretty damning if you didn't know

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2016 05:53 AM (bksJQ)

351 Even nailed my Wife with a Water Balloon on the back of the head.


I read the first 4 words of that sentence and thought "good for you"!!



Posted by: Bruce at July 24, 2016 05:55 AM (8ikIW)

352 Posted by: Bruce at July 24, 2016 05:55 AM (8ikIW)

No comment.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 24, 2016 05:59 AM (WVsWD)

353 Someone tell Buzzion that it is safe....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Am Yisrael Hai at July 24, 2016 05:59 AM (AZl0B)

354 Wanna little butter n yo coffee?
some coconut oil too?
All these questions they be asking
don't know what I wanna do.
But one thing they don't ax,
is if I wanna pay the tax,
so off to work to pay,
yankee reconstruction tax today.

later!


Posted by: Eromero at July 24, 2016 05:59 AM (zLDYs)

355 "Someone tell Buzzion that it is safe...."

???

What did we miss?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 24, 2016 06:00 AM (WVsWD)

356 CBD -

How do I know it is safe?

You should have taken better care of your teeth, Mr. Brown......

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 24, 2016 06:02 AM (KHrVb)

357 Engineering schools seem destined to embarrass themselves. Iowa State, a bastion of engineering education, built a dorm back in the 80s that leaned so badly they had to demolish it.

'Morning, horde.

Posted by: creeper at July 24, 2016 06:03 AM (pFp74)

358 The new GhostBustiers is a flop?

Sounds like they need a better seamstress.

Oh wait, it's Busters; well, in that case

I ain't afraid of no bust.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2016 06:05 AM (gyKtp)

359 So is Munich being ignored this morning? Not enough victims to satisfy the presstitutes?

Posted by: creeper at July 24, 2016 06:05 AM (pFp74)

360 In a nearby town we had one of those wastes of taxpayer dollar situations where inner-city yoots were supposed to be taught the construction trade by refurbishing old abandoned houses. The recipient of this taxpayer largesse was one of those fly-by-night storefront ghetto churches, who would then hire and deploy the "instructors."

Hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars were funneled into this project. They "refurbished" exactly one house. Which immediately collapsed because the scam-artist instructors, who didn't have a clue what they were doing, removed a critical support beam.

I'll see if I can find a newspaper clip, it was funny in an infuriating way.



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 24, 2016 06:09 AM (WlGX+)

361 Odd. No smell of smoke and clear skies here. Yet people who are much farther from the fire are talking about the red moon and other effects. I guess the wind is very persistently blowing just that direction.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 06:09 AM (IdCqF)

362 So is Munich being ignored this morning? Not enough victims to satisfy the presstitutes?

Posted by: creeper at July 24, 2016 06:05 AM (pFp74)

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/

More worried about how the muzzie killed himself than anything else.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 24, 2016 06:09 AM (WVsWD)

363 So is Munich being ignored this morning? Not enough victims to satisfy the presstitutes?



Even more so with Kabul and Baghdad.

Eh, some brown people killing brown people. Not much heart wrenching we can pull out of that.
Like the killings in Chicago etc.
Put it up for a 10 minute cycle.
We got a smiling Pantsuit pic to show off.

Posted by: Bruce at July 24, 2016 06:13 AM (8ikIW)

364 So they're finally acknowledging he was an adherent of the Religion of Penis.

Posted by: creeper at July 24, 2016 06:14 AM (pFp74)

365 Posted by: creeper at July 24, 2016 06:14 AM (pFp74)

No. That was me. If anything they German press is doubling down on the "unknown motive"

mekel bellt!!

Die presse, auf befehl!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 24, 2016 06:18 AM (WVsWD)

366 What is higher in the Islamic world? The mass murder rate or the birth rate? At times it seems like they should be running out of people to murder but these same place still have expanding populations while much of the world is contracting.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 24, 2016 06:20 AM (IdCqF)

367 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 24, 2016 06:22 AM (hyuyC)

368 They're acknowledging nothing but the conservative white males with guns are to blame.

Posted by: Fash the Nationalist at July 24, 2016 06:23 AM (dF02i)

369 ZeroHedge has an intersting article on bullshit.

http://tinyurl.com/j8dlbfs

Posted by: creeper at July 24, 2016 06:30 AM (pFp74)

370 Doesn't seem like this can end well. The madder we get, the more they lie. The more they lie, the madder we get. I'm beginning to have a new appreciation of the phrase "spiraling out of control".

Not sure we make it to November.

Posted by: creeper at July 24, 2016 06:34 AM (pFp74)

371 The night the bonfire collapsed coincided with a fierce meteor shower. It was cloudy in Houston so we had gone to Galveston and got a room at the Flagship in the hopes the sky was clear.

One of our sons, who was a student at A&M Galveston at the time had gone to CS to be with friends working the bonfire build. When we awoke to that news or hearts damned near stopped. One of his friends had jumped off that pile minutes before it fell. A son of the owner of the company I work for also missed it by minutes.

Gig 'em. That was a tough deal for A&M and the friends and families that were impacted.

Posted by: DanMan at July 24, 2016 08:08 AM (XUgfZ)

372 There was another engineering design failure ending in a death at TAMUG, their sailing vessel Cynthia Woods.

http://www.soundingsonline.com/news/coastwise/239412-new-report-new-theory-for-keel-failure

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at July 24, 2016 08:12 AM (EMi53)

373 Maybe they could do a show on how the social welfare programs in the USA engineered the middle class into the ditch?

Posted by: torabora at July 24, 2016 08:50 AM (QQRAy)

374 There was another engineering design failure ending in a death at TAMUG, their sailing vessel Cynthia Woods.

http://www.soundingsonline.com/news/coastwise/239412-new-report-new-theory-for-keel-failure

***

Ugh. I don't even remember this event. I wonder if the boat manufacturer is still in business

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 24, 2016 09:19 AM (SEXy3)

375 Before I put TAMU behind me, the height limit for the bonfire stack was 69 feet. As I recall it "accidentally" made it to 109 feet my senior year.

Posted by: Marooned at July 24, 2016 01:23 PM (XhyuK)

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