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Viggo Johansen, "Silent Night" (1891)

Posted by: rdbrewer at 11:55 AM




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1 Yayyyy Christmas Tree

Posted by: Bruce at December 21, 2015 11:56 AM (8ikIW)

2 Why the hell would you put a Christmas tree in the middle of the room? Now you have to decorate the whole damned thing.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 11:57 AM (XiVKO)

3 Pretty.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 21, 2015 11:57 AM (326rv)

4 Nice.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 11:57 AM (nGyiN)

5 Ahhhh.

Posted by: HH at December 21, 2015 11:57 AM (DrCtv)

6 Guess which ornament I am.

Posted by: Waldo at December 21, 2015 11:57 AM (326rv)

7 Everyone in that painting is dead.

Posted by: Chupacabra who reminds you that life is short at December 21, 2015 11:58 AM (XiVKO)

8 Everyone in that painting is dead.
Posted by: Chupacabra who reminds you that life is short

Bite me.

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas past at December 21, 2015 11:59 AM (326rv)

9 Viggo? Isn't he that ghost guy from Ghostbusters II?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 11:59 AM (nGyiN)

10 He was good in A Perfect Murder.

Posted by: Roscoe at December 21, 2015 11:59 AM (lHpdV)

11 Candles. I bet that ceiling needed repainting after that little episode.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 21, 2015 12:00 PM (F+xWX)

12 Okay where is the kwanza tree ?

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:00 PM (/dSsq)

13 Everyone in that painting is dead.


Posted by: Chupacabra who reminds you that life is short at December 21, 2015 11:58 AM (XiVKO)



They're all ghosts? How did he get them to pose like that?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 21, 2015 12:00 PM (493sH)

14 @TheQuietMan

With particle accelerators.

Posted by: Chupacabra who reminds you that life is short at December 21, 2015 12:00 PM (XiVKO)

15 Doesn't look very silent.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:01 PM (AkOaV)

16 Candles. I bet that ceiling needed repainting after that little episode.



Why were people so much more competent back then?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:01 PM (Q1QrS)

17 Bet their pockets are filled with posey.

Posted by: Garrett at December 21, 2015 12:01 PM (bcdMv)

18 Subtitle: Just Prior to the Candles Catching the House on Fire.

Then it was really, really silent.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 21, 2015 12:01 PM (LUgeY)

19 Why were people so much more competent back then?
Posted by: rickb223


They hadn't yet discovered social justice.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 12:02 PM (FkBIv)

20 Very beautiful; Thanks

For those that didn't see it and have an interest this is a somewhat modern-1990's anyway- Christian song,

"Faith Can Light a Candle" (Greg Long)

Don't you ever give into all the darkness around you...faith can light a candle in the darkest night."

It would be good for a longest night of the year service too..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:02 PM (qES5k)

21 Why were people so much more competent back then?

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they actually weren't. plenty died from fuck ups.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 21, 2015 12:02 PM (F+xWX)

22 O, Christmas Tree!

Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 12:02 PM (d4uu4)

23
18 BBoy

Well, after all the screaming.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at December 21, 2015 12:02 PM (TPjwz)

24 If they'd have been singing "O Tannenbaum", they'd already be dead.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 12:03 PM (4WhSY)

25 I wish I had that painting. That's exactly what my family did on Christmas Eve right before we went to bed. Gathered around the tree and sang Silent Night.

Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 12:03 PM (Fmupd)

26 Why the hell would you put a Christmas tree in the middle of the room? Now you have to decorate the whole damned thing.
Posted by: Chupacabra
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Yeah.

Bah. Humbug.

Posted by: Scrooge at December 21, 2015 12:03 PM (9mTYi)

27
Viggo Johansen*, "Silent Night" (1891)

*"The Scourge of Carpathia"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:04 PM (kdS6q)

28 #20

Forgot the link for the song:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gmm9rjz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:04 PM (qES5k)

29 I think there are presents on the tree.

Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 12:04 PM (d4uu4)

30
I've got to admire the mad skills or chutzpah of anyone-

who puts a dead tree covered with lit candles in the middle of their living room.


Posted by: naturalfake at December 21, 2015 12:05 PM (0cMkb)

31 Even with the three months of Christmas we've had this year, I still have more Christmas Spirit than Star Wars spirit.

Seriously, is there any item that doesn't have a SW tie-in right now?

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 12:05 PM (XiVKO)

32 Nu är det jul igen, och nu är det jul igen, och julen varar än till påska.

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:05 PM (dFi94)

33 Looks like the celebration of climate change. Imprison them

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 12:05 PM (voOPb)

34 O Come All Ye Faithful playing now on FBC Radio. Just the right thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:05 PM (9mTYi)

35 Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 12:03 PM (Fmupd)

What a lovely custom and memory to have!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:05 PM (qES5k)

36 Gorgeous.

Posted by: MTF at December 21, 2015 12:06 PM (TxJGV)

37 Haroomph!

I knew that poor Fir when it was only a seed!

Posted by: Treebeard at December 21, 2015 12:06 PM (bcdMv)

38
This is the time of year when children and parents are shot dead while in their homes decorating trees bc some gangbanger couldnt shoot straight.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 12:06 PM (iQIUe)

39 Somewhat O/T: Katie Pavlich on outnumbered and looking good.

Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 12:06 PM (Fmupd)

40 Seriously, is there any item that doesn't have a SW tie-in right now?

Evidently not

http://www.graphicarmor.com/star-wars-condoms/star-wars-yoda-condoms

Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 12:06 PM (uZNvH)

41
Viggo Johansen

From 1888 to 1906, he taught at the Artists Academy's School for Women. He then became a professor there until 1920.



*giggity*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:06 PM (kdS6q)

42 And there's a bust of a guy set high atop a wooden column in the right rear corner. Which is a little weird.

Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 12:06 PM (d4uu4)

43 Wow... soaring discants

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:06 PM (9mTYi)

44 Even with the three months of Christmas we've had this year, I still have more Christmas Spirit than Star Wars spirit.

Seriously, is there any item that doesn't have a SW tie-in right now?



When you have to hide Stormtroopers, remember Tampax!
White, up tight, and outta sight!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:07 PM (Q1QrS)

45 *flushes toilet*

Posted by: Hillary Redham Clinton at December 21, 2015 12:07 PM (7v/r5)

46 My favorite tree is Charlie Browns "tree." It started out puny, but when the Kids decorated, it was beautiful... I think there was a metaphor in there somewhere....

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:07 PM (/dSsq)

47 Is that a mirror or a picture in the left corner? Because it looks like an evil ghost and is freaking me out.

Posted by: Lea at December 21, 2015 12:07 PM (lIU4e)

48 Problematic!

Posted by: Locally sourced eco warrior at December 21, 2015 12:08 PM (k8tEg)

49 Nah, they can't be ghosts.

Otherwise the Mother's reflection wouldn't show up in that mirror on the left.

They're ZOMBIES.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 21, 2015 12:08 PM (wtvvX)

50
Lovely scene.

Now, if I only had a nice plate of Lebkuchen and a cup of eggnog.


Mmmmmm, lebkuchen.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 21, 2015 12:08 PM (0cMkb)

51
The Kardashians, like most rich people, hire specialist to put up and decorate their trees. And of course, thy are super gaudy yet they act all proud of them like they chopped the sucker down themselves.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 12:08 PM (iQIUe)

52 Once more, without all the little Swedish ding-dongs


Nu ar det jul igen, och nu ar det jul igen, och julen varar an till paska.



What we sing when we dance around the tree on Christmas Eve. Usually tipsy by then. That's what this Scandi family appears to be doing.

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:08 PM (dFi94)

53 My favorite tree is Charlie Browns "tree." It started out puny, but when the Kids decorated, it was beautiful... I think there was a metaphor in there somewhere....



Adults ruin everything.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:09 PM (Q1QrS)

54 >>>47 Is that a mirror or a picture in the left corner? Because it looks like an evil ghost and is freaking me out.
Posted by: Lea at December 21, 2015 12:07 PM (lIU4e)

I think it's a doorway, and a real person standing in it.

Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 12:09 PM (d4uu4)

55 "Our Prince of Peace"

A "Loving Grace" devotional:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gscfght

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:09 PM (qES5k)

56 So far no sightings of Han Solo selling Star Wars themed Depends. So there is that.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:09 PM (nGyiN)

57 I use a rescue tree that was slated for the paper mill then I wipe my ass with the needles.

Posted by: Locally sourced eco warrior at December 21, 2015 12:09 PM (k8tEg)

58 30
I've got to admire the mad skills or chutzpah of anyone-

who puts a dead tree covered with lit candles in the middle of their living room.


Posted by: naturalfake at December 21, 2015 12:05 PM (0cMkb)


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Did it every year when I lived with my German wife in Germany. No big deal.

Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 12:10 PM (Fmupd)

59 I want to know what the little tune is that Kris Kringle sings along with the Dutch orphan, in Miracle on 34th Street.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:10 PM (9mTYi)

60 People being proud of their outsourced holiday decorations are like the guy that enters his new Audi R8 in car shows.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 12:10 PM (XiVKO)

61 "Everyone in that painting is dead.
"


Happy Art Thread, everyone.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 12:10 PM (TsYtU)

62 Nu ar det jul igen, och nu ar det jul igen, och julen varar an till paska.

Gud Jul! Grammie and everyone else here!

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:10 PM (/dSsq)

63 >>>I think it's a doorway, and a real person standing in it.
Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 12:09 PM (d4uu4)

Well, maybe not a doorway, but a real person.

Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 12:10 PM (d4uu4)

64 Seriously, is there any item that doesn't have a SW tie-in right now?

Evidently not

http://www.graphicarmor.com/star-wars-condoms/star-wars-yoda-condoms



Six kids showing in that picture. Someone needed those condoms!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:11 PM (Q1QrS)

65 What, more trees?

Morning, Glories, except it's afternoon now I guess back east.

I plowed through the morning thread, got to the end and saw the call for Doom.

I read the article linked at the top of the Doom thread, and had some comments to make, but by that time BenK had dumped so I skipped Monty's Doom text and all the comments.

I read some BenK links and then plowed through the comments there and by that time this Art was up.

Which is where I wanted to be anyway.

I left a comment on the ONT, thoughts about the Nutcracker's broad political incorrectness. Nobody noticed or cared, because Star Wars.

Rather than re-post that, here's the link:
http://bit.ly/non-pc-nutcracker

Now, I should be able to catch up on this thread in just a few...

Posted by: mindful webworker - Merry Almost Christmas at December 21, 2015 12:11 PM (O+0DS)

66 Jay Cost (who writes well and often says smart stuff) is pretty optimistic about the GOP race.

Stepping back for a minute from individual issues and the ups and downs of the campaigns he thinks the top candidates (Cruz, Rubio and Trump) have enough in common that, regardless of who gets the nod, you can say they will all force the GOPe to become less corrupt and more conservative.


http://tws.io/1Ywoo7M

Posted by: MTF at December 21, 2015 12:11 PM (TxJGV)

67 Subtitle of painting: The Borden Family in happier times, before Lizzie made them famous.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 12:11 PM (7v/r5)

68 Car went up on the sidewalk in Vegas, killed someone and injured 35+ others, appeared to be deliberate. Any news on this? Saw it on drudge.

Sounds Palestinian.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (ubByS)

69 It amazes me that these braniacs think it is a good idea to put a large number of refugees in small towns. Suddenly, your area goes from 1% muslim to 75% muslim.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (iQIUe)

70
I've got to admire the mad skills or chutzpah of anyone-



who puts a dead tree covered with lit candles in the middle of their living room.







Posted by: naturalfake at December 21, 2015 12:05 PM (0cMkb)








The only thing more flammable than a dead pine tree is a washtub full of gasoline surrounded by road flares and piles of magnesium shavings.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (OMTVG)

71 That is a mirror in the corner. Reflecting the image of the blond woman in the dark blue dress with the white ... the word escapes me .. what ever it is around her neck.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (nGyiN)

72 I GIVE rocks.
Your children will thank me later.

Posted by: Locally sourced eco warrior at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (k8tEg)

73 Love this! Most apropos for this time of the year. Merry Christmas everyone.

Posted by: IC at December 21, 2015 12:13 PM (a0IVu)

74 Oh, by the way.

I whipped up a batch of George Washington's Eggnog

last night.


That's right, bitchez!

The Father of Our Country left his eggnog recipe to posterity.

Now I can be simultaneously full of Christmas and Patriotic spirit!

And it is tasty.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 21, 2015 12:13 PM (0cMkb)

75 68 Car went up on the sidewalk in Vegas, killed someone and injured 35+ others, appeared to be deliberate. Any news on this? Saw it on drudge.

All I read was the Woman was from Oregon and Her name was Latesha...

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:13 PM (/dSsq)

76 Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:08 PM (dFi94)

Translation? Is "paska" Easter or just a false cognate?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 21, 2015 12:13 PM (GDulk)

77 Yoda condoms?

"Father children, you will not!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:13 PM (nGyiN)

78 Christmas is no long celebrated in Sweden because...cultural sensitivity.

Posted by: fly gal at December 21, 2015 12:13 PM (8TdcF)

79 71 That is a mirror in the corner. Reflecting the image of the blond woman in the dark blue dress with the white ... the word escapes me .. what ever it is around her neck.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (nGyiN)



Nailed it.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:13 PM (Q1QrS)

80 It's probably full of dicks, naturalfake.

That guy was covered in them.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 12:13 PM (XiVKO)

81 * recalls a Star Trek Transporter Christmas tree ornament*

I think Hallmark made a series of them. Let's see if I can find a picture...

Here it is. It was lighted internally.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:14 PM (9mTYi)

82 Happy Art Thread, everyone.

=====

all of your electric lights are made by Chinese slaves!

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 21, 2015 12:14 PM (F+xWX)

83 What we sing when we dance around the tree on Christmas Eve.

My Swedish is a little rusty/lot/nonexistent ;^) What does it mean?

When do they serve the Swedish pancakes with the lingonberries? :^) When I was a kid an area a couple of miles up the road from me was filled with people from various countries in Scandinavia. One of the things they sold was batter in a box for Swedish pancake and they also sold ligonberries. I loved that-particularly the thinner pancakes. You can still get the thinner, crepe type pancakes at I-Hop, but it's not as good as I remember my mother making.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:14 PM (qES5k)

84
Here it is. It was lighted internally.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Oops, link http://preview.tinyurl.com/pahuhzg

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:14 PM (9mTYi)

85 Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (ubByS)

last I heard, drunk woman in her 20s with a 3 year old in the backseat is what the cops were saying.

Although not black-out drunk -- they think it may have been deliberate.

Who knows

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:15 PM (AkOaV)

86 The back story of the safe driver of the year: http://tinyurl.com/za46lhp

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:15 PM (oKE6c)

87 The only thing more flammable than a dead pine tree is a washtub full of gasoline surrounded by road flares and piles of magnesium shavings.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (OMTVG)



Which just happens to be exactly how the naturalfake's make their traditional Christmas decoration.


We've moved more times than you can imagine...

Posted by: naturalfake at December 21, 2015 12:15 PM (0cMkb)

88 46 My favorite tree is Charlie Browns "tree." It started out puny, but when the Kids decorated, it was beautiful... I think there was a metaphor in there somewhere....
Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:07 PM (/dSsq

You can accomplish goals without government assistance/hand outs and bail outs

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 12:16 PM (voOPb)

89 >>>The only thing more flammable than a dead pine tree
is a washtub full of gasoline surrounded by road flares and piles of
magnesium shavings.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (OMTVG)


And even that is a close-run thing.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:16 PM (oKE6c)

90 Posted by: fly gal at December 21, 2015 12:13 PM (8TdcF)

Yes; they have to do it in the closet, I expect, Damn shame! I don't know anything about Saints from Sweden but they should probably be appealed to by the RC folks for intercession.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:16 PM (qES5k)

91
Viggo Johansen - "Glade jul" 1891

The painting was started in Christmas 1890 but it was April 1891 before Johansen was finished.

The intervening months required that the studio's windows be covered to block out spring sunlight. The candles had to be repeatedly relit and the models reposed. As time went by, the fir tree died and fresh branches were attached. On top of the long-term efforts to maintain the Christmas spirit in the room, the children pictured had measles in turn.

http://www.hirschsprung.dk/Image.aspx?id=97col=6


Merry Danish Xmas!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:16 PM (kdS6q)

92 Whooaa!

Posted by: Fireman Bill at December 21, 2015 12:16 PM (DL2i+)

93 45 *flushes toilet*
Posted by: Hillary Redham Clinton at December 21, 2015 12:07 PM (7v/r5)




Heh. We should get some mileage out of this. And not just 5,280 foot-long DQ curlers.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 21, 2015 12:16 PM (vgIRn)

94 George Washington's Eggnog

Really? *runs to google*

BTW, that doesn't look like a doorway, but I'm undecided on the real ghost/evil mirror ghost/evil mirror picture question..

Posted by: Lea at December 21, 2015 12:16 PM (lIU4e)

95 Five little kids in the house? No way in hell that is a silent night. Damn leftist propaganda.

Posted by: NotCoach at December 21, 2015 12:16 PM (rsudF)

96
Happy Art Thread, everyone.



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all of your electric lights are made by Chinese slaves!

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 21, 2015 12:14 PM (F+xWX)







Happiness is a Warm Sweatshop


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 21, 2015 12:17 PM (OMTVG)

97 The Father of Our Country left his eggnog recipe to posterity.

Can you leave it for us? :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:17 PM (qES5k)

98 "The only thing more flammable than a dead pine tree is a washtub full of
gasoline surrounded by road flares and piles of magnesium shavings."


Wondered the same thing and then an old timer learned me. They only lit the candles for a short period of time in the evening and had a bucket handy. Put everything out before bed.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 12:17 PM (TsYtU)

99 Happiness is a Warm Sweatshop

It's a job....

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (/dSsq)

100 Has anyone else heard of the Chinese town where they make all the Christmas stuff? The whole place is decorated year round, but they have no idea WTH Christmas even is.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (XiVKO)

101 That is a mirror in the corner. Reflecting the image of the blond woman in the dark blue dress with the white ... the word escapes me .. what ever it is around her neck.
______________

She looks to me like either a maid servant or a female relative, with her arms folded, admiring the celebration.

Posted by: fly gal at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (8TdcF)

102 O' Tannenbaum

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (so+oy)

103 Who else out there, in the field of Republican candidates, is loudly calling Herself a liar?

Can Trump win with this in the general election?

Saying she lied about Benghazi, she lied about Whitewater, she lied about the cattle futures, she lied about the emails, she lied about everything, and she will never stop lying.

Is this a winning theme?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (U6f54)

104 Oh, so that's what was in the briefcase.

Posted by: Jules Winfield at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (JOG+K)

105 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (GwIKd)

106 Bigby: I bet that ceiling needed repainting after that little episode.

My brother-in-law would always get the tree for my mother-in-law's house - famously always just a little too tall for the room. The green skidmarks on the ceiling were like a permanent Christmas decoration.

Milady retorts, we did re-paint the ceiling many times after Christmas.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Jolly Holly Daze at December 21, 2015 12:19 PM (O+0DS)

107 Charlie Brown message is Have Faith

Posted by: artemis at December 21, 2015 12:19 PM (AwPyG)

108 @86 Jay

The cousin says this is not like her, she's an overachiver.

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If Obama had a daughter, wait he does. I think Malaria has a better mustache tho

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 12:19 PM (voOPb)

109 Christmas danish?

what would that be? eggnog? candy cane?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 21, 2015 12:19 PM (F+xWX)

110 O' Tannenbaum

Should be called O tannen-bomb... That sucker is gonna light up like the fourth of July...

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:19 PM (/dSsq)

111 My illegal in Maryland "assault rifle" is in at the gun shop. Only a lib could define a .22 as an assault rifle.

Posted by: V the K at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (O7MnT)

112 Is this a winning theme?
Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (U6f54

yes.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (voOPb)

113 I'm really starting to think Trump will get the nom.

I would say if the primary was tomorrow, that's who I would vote for, but it's for me more like voting for a hand grenade to be lobbed at the ruling class.

I just straight up don't like Cruz, and he's done such a 180 on immigration, he might as well be Rubio.

Shame Jeff Sessions isn't running.

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (BTKKR)

114 If you want to know what our family looks like on Christmas Eve, take a gander. Substitute the dining room table with a Christmas tree, then imagine a young child with candles on their head. This is why I am the way I am. Explains a lot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNNuItCUeto

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (dFi94)

115 Seriously, is there any item that doesn't have a SW tie-in right now?

"Chup, we are your fathers!"

Posted by: Ghey campells "dad's" what need punching at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (bA+CL)

116 The tree is pretty. But it really has little to do with the event that ushered in mankind's ultimate Freedom from human rulers.

With the birth of The Christ, all men have intrinsic dignity and worth - because God lives in them through Him. That was not the case before.

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (r4pNb)

117 Though President Petulant's resting bitch-face is better than Malia's.

And, whew, that's really saying something.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (XiVKO)

118 112 Is this a winning theme?
Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (U6f54

yes.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (voOPb)

Yeah, I think so. For example, a lot of my millennial friends are for the first time hearing about the Rose lawfirm.

I said, "oh yeah, google the billing records if you want to hear a funny story."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (AkOaV)

119 Freshly overhauled Netbook does't like this thread at all.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 12:21 PM (TsYtU)

120 President Obama said in a radio interview airing on Monday that Donald J. Trump, a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination, is exploiting the resentment and anxieties of working-class men to boost his campaign. Mr. Obama also argued that some of the scorn directed at him personally stems from the fact that he is the first African-American to hold the White House.

Demographic changes and economic stresses, including "flatlining" wages and incomes, have meant that "particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck," Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.

Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords Schultz at December 21, 2015 12:21 PM (e8kgV)

121 114 If you want to know what our family looks like on Christmas Eve, take a gander. Substitute the dining room table with a Christmas tree, then imagine a young child with candles on their head. This is why I am the way I am. Explains a lot.

My Grand Daughter dresses up as Lucia on the 13th of December....

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:21 PM (/dSsq)

122 Maybe you should have keelhauled the Netbook...

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:21 PM (nGyiN)

123 The only thing more flammable than a dead pine tree is a washtub full of gasoline surrounded by road flares and piles of magnesium shavings.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 21, 2015 12:12 PM (OMTVG


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You forgot the cat and the four year old with matches.

Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 12:21 PM (Fmupd)

124 I just straight up don't like Cruz, and he's done such a 180 on immigration, he might as well be Rubio.

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (BTKKR)

Oh come on -- I'm not even really a Cruz fan, but that is a gross mischaracterization.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:21 PM (AkOaV)

125 "After we finish out pagan tree-worship dance, one of you children will have the honor of being the blood sacrifice!"

"Yaaaay!!!"

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:22 PM (kpqmD)

126 Do you get credit for recycling if you take that tree back out to the woods after the holidays and duct tape it back onto the stump?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 21, 2015 12:22 PM (NeFrd)

127 Demographic changes and economic stresses, including "flatlining" wages and incomes, have meant that "particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck," Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.
Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords Schultz at December 21, 2015 12:21 PM (e8kgV)


I saw that. Note Obama's use of the word "bargain" there. Sounds very... SJW'y to me.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:22 PM (AkOaV)

128 naturalfake: The Father of Our Country left his eggnog recipe to posterity.

You gonna post the recipe, or a link, or just tease us?

Posted by: mindful webworker - Merry *hic* Christmas at December 21, 2015 12:22 PM (O+0DS)

129 120 President Obama said in a radio interview airing on Monday that Donald J. Trump, a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination, is exploiting the resentment and anxieties of working-class men to boost his campaign. Mr. Obama also argued that some of the scorn directed at him personally stems from the fact that he is the first African-American to hold the White House.

Demographic changes and economic stresses, including "flatlining" wages and incomes, have meant that "particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck," Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.



I read this earlier... He also stood up for BLM....

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:22 PM (/dSsq)

130 Snf. Snffffffffff. Got a little dusty in here.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 21, 2015 12:22 PM (RD7QR)

131 Viggo Johansen was pretty good as Aragorn.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:22 PM (kpqmD)

132 In the new Star Wars movie, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher appear to be the same age.

Ford is 14 years older than Fisher. Holy crap the drugs caught up with Fisher.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2015 12:23 PM (jhqr1)

133 Candles. I bet that ceiling needed repainting after that little episode.

That's a time-lapse painting. The candles weren't really that bright.

Posted by: t-bird at December 21, 2015 12:23 PM (ZxmMG)

134 On top of the long-term efforts to maintain the Christmas spirit in the room, the children pictured had measles in turn.


Subsubtitle: The Measles Tree.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 21, 2015 12:23 PM (LUgeY)

135 Viggo played a pretty awesome Satan in The Prophecy, too.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 12:23 PM (XiVKO)

136 My Swedish is a little rusty/lot/nonexistent ;^) What does it mean?

Superficially, written Swedish appears incomprehensible, but when I was in Sweden I found if you sound out the words you can make out a bit of it from English and German cognates.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:24 PM (oKE6c)

137 My Grand Daughter dresses up as Lucia on the 13th of December....



Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:21 PM (/dSsq)
============================================

It's a beautiful tradition, especially when they bring you breakfast in bed. Without lighting the bedroom on fire.

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:24 PM (dFi94)

138 There's a less dark image of the painting that brings out more of the details at wikigallery.

http://tinyurl.com/z9flpkp

Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 12:24 PM (d4uu4)

139 osted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (dFi94)

I'm glad you are the way you are!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:24 PM (qES5k)

140 Carrie Fisher as General Organa, it was pretty jarring. Either she was hitting the bottle before every shot or she suffered a stroke. The way she said her lines.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:25 PM (nGyiN)

141 In the new Star Wars movie, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher appear to be the same age.

I was wondering who that pretty young thing was!

Posted by: Hillary! at December 21, 2015 12:25 PM (ZxmMG)

142 It's all the electro-shock Fisher's been through.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 12:25 PM (XiVKO)

143 Why aren't there minorities or Syrian refugees in that painting? I find it quite offensive.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 21, 2015 12:26 PM (9vLZK)

144 Demographic changes and economic stresses, including "flatlining" wages and incomes, have meant that "particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck," Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.


"Bargain?" WTF?

I guess this is where he lefthandedly admits the new economy isn't as good as what it replaced, but I somehow get the feeling that even he doesn't understand what was written out for him to say.

*sigh* I miss capitalism...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 21, 2015 12:26 PM (LUgeY)

145 Thank you Fenelon. I was thinking of you last night, and praying that things would go well.

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:27 PM (dFi94)

146 That is a mirror in the corner. Reflecting the image of the blond woman in the dark blue dress with the white ... the word escapes me .. what ever it is around her neck.


*****


Woman at the left has her arms crossed, no? Both of the women around the tree have their hands down holding a child's hand.

I think it's a doorway with an onlooker.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 21, 2015 12:27 PM (NeFrd)

147 Okay the Wiki version. It is another woman. She is standing in the corner where it seems they moved things for the tree because she is standing before what looks like two paintings and a vase on a column.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:27 PM (nGyiN)

148 "Bargain?" WTF?

Don't You see.... We're not accepting obamas new "normal."

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:27 PM (/dSsq)

149 Viggo Johansen, "Silent Night" (1891)

That family has Christmas contained.

Posted by: t-bird at December 21, 2015 12:27 PM (ZxmMG)

150 Carrie Fisher as General Organa, it was pretty jarring. Either she was hitting the bottle before every shot or she suffered a stroke. The way she said her lines.

Yep. I noticed that. Significant smoker's voice too.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2015 12:27 PM (jhqr1)

151
ID-ing the perps:

In the painting, it's Christmas at home in Amaliegade Copenhagen with the family Johansen, who dance around the Christmas tree in the living room.

The artist's wife Martha is seen at the front between the daughters Ellen, small Nann and Helene Christensen from Skagen. Whose hand is held by eldest son Fritz remains a secret, but though Johansen was busy in front of the easel it was probably Viggo himself who was behind the tree. In the corner is Martha's aunt.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:28 PM (kdS6q)

152 Carrie Fisher as General Organa, it was pretty jarring. Either she was hitting the bottle before every shot or she suffered a stroke. The way she said her lines.


Old: A long time ago, In a Galaxy far, far away.....

New: Not so long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.......

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:28 PM (Q1QrS)

153
Thank you Fenelon. I was thinking of you last night, and praying that things would go well.


Did I miss something?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 21, 2015 12:28 PM (X6fMO)

154 127 Demographic changes and economic stresses, including "flatlining" wages and incomes, have meant that "particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck," Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.
Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords Schultz at December 21, 2015 12:21 PM (e8kgV)


I saw that. Note Obama's use of the word "bargain" there. Sounds very... SJW'y to me.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:22 PM (AkOaV)


The fact of the matter is that American Men are now at a competitive disadvantage for jobs in much of America.

Entire Industries have gone bilingual. If you don't speak Spanish in Construction... or certain Indian or Pakistani Languages in IT... you can and will be passed over for many jobs (not all, but many)...

There is a reason statistics show that almost all of the job 'created' in the Obama economy went to immigrants.

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 12:28 PM (f7rv6)

155 120 President Obama said in a radio interview airing on Monday that Donald J. Trump, a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination, is exploiting the resentment and anxieties of working-class men to boost his campaign. Mr. Obama also argued that some of the scorn directed at him personally stems from the fact that he is the first African-American to hold the White House.

Demographic changes and economic stresses, including "flatlining" wages and incomes, have meant that "particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck," Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.



So, let's review the bidding. He accuses Trump of playing to working-class men. Obama would never play to one demographic, nosir.


Then he plays the race card; "you can't criticize me, I'm black(ish), you know."


Last, he implies that blue-collar workers used to get a handout back when, kinda like the EBT card so ubiquitous among Obama's favored demographic.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:28 PM (oKE6c)

156 "particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck," Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.

Bargain? Five million Americans lost manufacturing jobs after China permanent most favored trade status got pushed by the 'other' Clinton - Bill. Five million went from homeowners to renters in the same time period.

Bargain, my ass.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 12:29 PM (7v/r5)

157 I'd also like to say, I freaking loved the new Star Wars movie!

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2015 12:29 PM (jhqr1)

158 Candles. I bet that ceiling needed repainting after that little episode.


That's why I use LEDs in all my most important works.

Posted by: Thomas Kinkade, Painter of Diode-Emitted Light at December 21, 2015 12:29 PM (8ZskC)

159 Actually, my Danish Stepmom still observes the 'tree with real candles' and singing "Nu har vi jul igen" just as shown in this painting.

And yes the candles are only 4 inches tall and are extinguished after being closely watched for 10 minutes at most.

Posted by: Aunt Ralph at December 21, 2015 12:29 PM (6VG2o)

160 No gathering of people looks right unless there is at least one black man. An asian or mexican is suitable as garnish, but a black is essential.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 21, 2015 12:30 PM (9vLZK)

161 I just straight up don't like Cruz, and he's done such a 180 on immigration, he might as well be Rubio.

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (BTKKR)

Oh come on -- I'm not even really a Cruz fan, but that is a gross mischaracterization.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

###################



I really don't think so, he's part of that Texas "Hispandering" that Rick Perry did as well. Perry also had no idea the rest of the country felt so strongly which is why he got flattened

I guess the point in his favor is at least he now seems to understand the grassroots find this position unacceptable and has adapted, but if you do research on past positions, he was very much a Chamber of Commerce conservative

I'll vote for him if he gets the nom, but he won't win the general

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:30 PM (BTKKR)

162
So, 1891, eh?

Here's a pretty dress Mama might have worn:

http://goo.gl/mbFL6u

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 21, 2015 12:31 PM (X6fMO)

163 Re Obama, I love the cognitive dissonance amongst leftists. Obama's the best thing since shoelaces, the economy is thriving, etc.


But every Democrat candidate has a plan to get the economy back on its feet.


WTF?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:31 PM (oKE6c)

164 "Nu har vi jul igen"

Please don't summon the Old Ones on such a happy holiday.

Thank you.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2015 12:31 PM (jhqr1)

165 >>>She looks to me like either a maid servant or a female relative, with her arms folded, admiring the celebration.
Posted by: fly gal at December 21, 2015 12:18 PM (8TdcF)

I buy that.

Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 12:31 PM (d4uu4)

166 No gathering of people looks right unless there is at least one black man. An asian or mexican is suitable as garnish, but a black is essential.


#TwoGuys!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:32 PM (Q1QrS)

167
The fact of the matter is that American Men are now at a competitive disadvantage for jobs in much of America.
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And yet president AA has to lecture us that bust-your-ass blue collar jobs wont get you a "bargain" anymore?

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at December 21, 2015 12:32 PM (bA+CL)

168 Blue Collar White men have a problem? So then the murder rate for Blue Collar White men must be much higher than for the special snowflakes in Chicago right???????

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:33 PM (gf8BH)

169 Carrie Fisher as General Organa, it was pretty jarring. Either she was hitting the bottle before every shot or she suffered a stroke. The way she said her lines.

Yep. I noticed that. Significant smoker's voice too.
Posted by: bonhomme

___________

It was so strange and out of place, it would have probably been better to have used late 90's CGI to recreate her instead of the real Carrie Fisher

Far and away the oddest part of the whole movie, she only had a few lines but even those they couldn't seem to make her not sound like a drunk stroke victim

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:33 PM (BTKKR)

170 re: the woman in Vegas

Daily Mail has pictures of her car... holy shit did that oldsmobile hold up well. Hit 32 people and barely looks dented up?

I hit a turkey going 25 mph with my Dodge pickup 10 years back and damn near totaled the thing. A fucking turkey.

...Anyways...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:33 PM (AkOaV)

171 >>>151
ID-ing the perps:

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:28 PM (kdS6q)

Cool.

Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 12:33 PM (d4uu4)

172
Our 2013 Christmas Tree with candles on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SihEnrDwiNM

Man, does that ever look peaceful and Christmasy.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:33 PM (kdS6q)

173
But every Democrat candidate has a plan to get the economy back on its feet.


WTF?


Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:31 PM (oKE6c)


Just shows they don't even believe their OWN Propaganda...

As a cartoon I saw recently pointed out....

Obama says the Syrian 'refugees' are just like the Pilgrims...

But the Left believes the Pilgrims came to Kill the Indians, and steal their Land...

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 12:34 PM (f7rv6)

174 Carrie Fisher as General Organa, it was pretty jarring. Either she was hitting the bottle before every shot or she suffered a stroke. The way she said her lines.


Um, youze aware I did a play called Wishful Drinking?

Get it???

Posted by: Cary Anne Bobbie Fisher at December 21, 2015 12:35 PM (9vLZK)

175 All I gotz to say to you Christianists is..........CRUSADES!!!

Oh, yeah, we are SO gonna audit this Viggo Mortensen guy for this.

Posted by: Barry HUSSEIN at December 21, 2015 12:35 PM (YdOYw)

176 168 Blue Collar White men have a problem? So then the murder rate for Blue Collar White men must be much higher than for the special snowflakes in Chicago right???????
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:33 PM (gf8BH)




So next he'll be proposing a handout to them, jobs training, encouraging employers to hire them, telling the EEOC to get on the case, etc., right? Right?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:35 PM (oKE6c)

177 >>You forgot the cat and the four year old with matches.

Heh. There's got to be a good story there...


So Trump is attacking Hillary's likely health issues - glad someone is finally drawing attention to this!

Donald Trump says Democratic presidential front-runner
Hillary Clinton's regular absences from the campaign trail are a sign
that she doesn't have the "stamina" to be president.
"She
goes out and she sees you guys for about 10 minutes, she sees you for a
little while, it's all rehearsed and staged...They'll
pick a couple of people out of the audience that are like, you know,
100 percent. She'll sit around a little plastic table, they'll talk to
the people for a while. It's ridiculous. And then she goes away for five or six days and you don't see her. She goes to sleep."

Posted by: Lizzy at December 21, 2015 12:35 PM (NOIQH)

178 Nice obama mentions those blue color workers as he vacations with the millionaires in Hawaii... Always thinking of the little people...

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 12:35 PM (/dSsq)

179 Generalissima Orgazmo

Posted by: Cary Anne Bobbie Fisher at December 21, 2015 12:35 PM (9vLZK)

180 Re Obama, I love the cognitive dissonance amongst leftists. Obama's the best thing since shoelaces, the economy is thriving, etc.


But every Democrat candidate has a plan to get the economy back on its feet.


WTF?


Or the Imbecile/Socialist Bernie Sanders: he's been up in DC reliably voting as the anti-American Socialist that he is for the past 25 years or so, but things are so bad today that he's innocent of causing anything because he's been in DC reliably voting as the anti-American Socialist that he is.

I swear, the Prog/Com Left should all be institutionalized.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 21, 2015 12:35 PM (LUgeY)

181 Far and away the oddest part of the whole movie, she only had a few lines but even those they couldn't seem to make her not sound like a drunk stroke victim


Now don't you be hatin' on drunk stroke victims.

*hic*

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at December 21, 2015 12:35 PM (8ZskC)

182 I loved his work in The Lord of the Rings. And Brokeback Mountain.

Posted by: Advo at December 21, 2015 12:36 PM (7vbG1)

183 Dems lacking a real plan. Feature not a bug.

From 1995
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nmodej5

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:36 PM (nGyiN)

184 Shame Jeff Sessions isn't running.
Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (BTKKR)

Session isn't
Who is Sessions backing? It isn't Rubio.

Eventually amnesty will be passed. Who is the guy to delay it the longest? My guess is Cruz.

I'd also vote for Trump to say f*ck you to Bill Kristol, Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 12:36 PM (voOPb)

185 "...where they are no longer getting the same bargain..."

The author wanted to evoke the image of Trade Union Bargaining.

Obama isn't an author. He is just a-whore. And over paid at that.

Posted by: reader at December 21, 2015 12:37 PM (CzhL0)

186 Just shows they don't even believe their OWN Propaganda...



As a cartoon I saw recently pointed out....



Obama says the Syrian 'refugees' are just like the Pilgrims...



But the Left believes the Pilgrims came to Kill the Indians, and steal their Land...





Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 12:34 PM (f7rv6)

I had the same thought; they obviously DON'T believe their own propaganda, so temporarily at least, in my eternal dilemma - are leftists cynical or delusional? - "cynical" temporarily pulls into the lead. Again.
Love the Syrian "refugees"/ Pilgrim point. Well done.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:37 PM (oKE6c)

187 Daily Mail has pictures of her car... holy shit did that oldsmobile hold up well. Hit 32 people and barely looks dented up?


Unfortunately for Mary Jo, floating isn't their strong suit.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at December 21, 2015 12:37 PM (8ZskC)

188 Our 2013 Christmas Tree with candles on it

======================================



Beautiful! We switched over to electric lights somewhere in the 70's I think. But the real candles are the best.

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:38 PM (dFi94)

189 115 Seriously, is there any item that doesn't have a SW tie-in right now?

"Chup, we are your fathers!"
Posted by: Ghey campells "dad's" what need punching at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (bA+CL)

Chickenhawk Noodle, most likely. Or Cream of Sum Yung Boi.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:38 PM (kpqmD)

190 Venite adoremus Dominum.

Posted by: Sid Caesar at December 21, 2015 12:39 PM (7UEuN)

191 Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.

Isn't he supposed to be on vacation right now?? Why isn't he working on his putz?

Posted by: fly gal at December 21, 2015 12:40 PM (8TdcF)

192 "amnesty will be passed"

No longer matters. Just like Obamacare. They will build a fence to try and stem the flood of people heading south. More opportunity and better climate. A new gold rush.

Posted by: opinion at December 21, 2015 12:40 PM (CzhL0)

193 Or the Imbecile/Socialist Bernie Sanders: he's been up in DC reliably voting as the anti-American Socialist that he is for the past 25 years or so, but things are so bad today that he's innocent of causing anything because he's been in DC reliably voting as the anti-American Socialist that he is.

I swear, the Prog/Com Left should all be institutionalized.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 21, 2015 12:35 PM (LUgeY)



I watched the Democrat debate, and concluded a) the Sanders is totally unhinged, and b) his robotic gesticulations when making a point (playing the vertical piano) would drive me crazy about two weeks into a Sanders Administration.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:40 PM (oKE6c)

194 Why isn't he working on his putz?

Michelle has it in her clutch purse.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:41 PM (nGyiN)

195 Carrie Fisher has been clean and sober for many years now. Not saying her using and drinking didn't take it's toll, but one also has to consider that she's getting old.

Trust me. Old age does strange things to people.

Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 12:41 PM (Fmupd)

196
Amazon: $5 off $25 Hooters gift cards

Begins at 11:10am EST

Hooters Code: HOOTERS5




"Here you go Gramdma. Don't forget to tip. Those implants ain't cheap."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:41 PM (kdS6q)

197 191 Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.
Isn't he supposed to be on vacation right now?? Why isn't he working on his putz?
Posted by: fly gal at December 21, 2015 12:40 PM (8TdcF)




They probably just recycled an old one.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:41 PM (oKE6c)

198 Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:27 PM (dFi94)

Thanks very much; I did a recap on last night ONT.
The prayers really helped. It was fine. The combative guy looked angry but I complimented him on his cute toddler and what was he going to do-punch me in the nose ? LOL. I also got to pray with a woman who came who is officially a member but I had never met so God was good! I have colleagues I also regularly reach out to for prayer so between that and the horde the pyres were flying which I really appreciate

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:41 PM (qES5k)

199 I watched the Democrat debate, and concluded a) the Sanders is totally unhinged, and b) his robotic gesticulations when making a point (playing the vertical piano) would drive me crazy about two weeks into a Sanders Administration.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:40 PM (oKE6c)

Sanders makes me laugh with his over the top theatrics. Just on style points alone.

Hillary, who dresses and acts like a Romulan, is less enjoyable to watch.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:41 PM (AkOaV)

200 146 That is a mirror in the corner. Reflecting the image of the blond woman in the dark blue dress with the white ... the word escapes me .. what ever it is around her neck.


*****


Woman at the left has her arms crossed, no? Both of the women around the tree have their hands down holding a child's hand.

I think it's a doorway with an onlooker.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 21, 2015 12:27 PM (NeFrd)

It's the vengeful spirit of the child-murdering witch that used to live in that house until she was hanged by nearby villagers. Now she watches...and waits...

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:42 PM (kpqmD)

201 I have heard about the town in China where they make all the Christmas merch.
Turns out Christianity is in decline all over the world, except China, where it is growing, despite state disapproval.

Posted by: navybrat at December 21, 2015 12:42 PM (Xodlv)

202 Uh oh...

One blog, SuperStation95, did report the woman screamed 'Allahu Akbar,' while driving into the crowd, but that information hasn't been substantiated by police or reported in other media outlets.


Name still not released.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 12:42 PM (7v/r5)

203 Shame Jeff Sessions isn't running.
Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:20 PM (BTKKR)

Session isn't
Who is Sessions backing? It isn't Rubio.

Eventually amnesty will be passed. Who is the guy to delay it the longest? My guess is Cruz.

I'd also vote for Trump to say f*ck you to Bill Kristol, Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
#############

Endorsements don't mean much to me, no question he would eventually endorse Jeb Bush if it came to that.

Cruz is an open borders guy, if you want to believe his conversion is real, fine, but it was definitely a late conversion.

He's on the record wanting to double immigration from places like Mexico, says birthright citizenship is in the Constitution, endorsed a plan for people here now to be made legal resident without deportation, etc

Hell, Cruz only recently rescinded his Candadian citizenship, he would be the only "President" not born on US soil. It makes sense he supports a very open door policy towards immigration

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:43 PM (BTKKR)

204 Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 12:37 PM (oKE6c)

I'm convinced that the Left is like a lot of people on religion...

Most speak the right words... and REALLY believe in those words... but never think about what they really mean... ie how it all fits together.

Its like my Mom being a solid Methodist, and being totally anti gun and anti violence... when if you take the WHOLE new Testament, Jesus was not a wimp.

But they pick and chose what platitudes they want... until it becomes an unworkable philosophy....

This, is the Left... they believe in platitudes.. but never contemplate how they fit into a workable philosophy.

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 12:43 PM (f7rv6)

205 Insomniac, work in some Star Wars and she is actually a dead Sith looking for revenge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:43 PM (nGyiN)

206 The prayers-not pyres. Darn autocorrect. The "let it burn" crowd hasn't suggested a pyre for me yet! ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:43 PM (qES5k)

207 Meanwhile, LaShay Hardaway, Holloways cousin, said: This is not like her. Shes a very successful woman, shes always been successful, shes an overachiever.

Its not her character. We are all trying to figure out what happened. Something very tragic must have taken place in her life because this is not her.

This is not something she would ever do. We are so sorry for those families affected by this

Sheria Agum, another of Holloways cousins, said: Shes sweet, shes a loving mother. Shes a very strong mum

Miss Agum added that she last saw Holloway a month ago and after that she changed her number. Holloways mother told her she had not heard from her since and she went off the radar

Miss Agum said that Holloway had been staying in Texas until recently but upon her return to the West coast she noticed a change in her character.

She said: I have never seen my cousin like that. Her whole attitude changed. She was having problems down there. When she came back she was different

Hum? Change in character? Something happened to her? In Texas? A conversion maybe?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:43 PM (gf8BH)

208
Name still not released.
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 12:42 PM (7v/r5)

The vegas thing? No, its been released. 20something year old black chick from the pacific northwest with a 3 year old kid in the backseat.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:44 PM (AkOaV)

209 202 Uh oh...

One blog, SuperStation95, did report the woman screamed 'Allahu Akbar,' while driving into the crowd, but that information hasn't been substantiated by police or reported in other media outlets.


Name still not released.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 12:42 PM (7v/r5)


But... but... MSN says they already ruled out Terrorism...

Just like the UC Merced Stabby Stabby guy...

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 12:44 PM (f7rv6)

210 Holloway became a Koranic Pod-Person?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:44 PM (nGyiN)

211
Hell, Cruz only recently rescinded his Candadian citizenship, he would be the only "President" not born on US soil. It makes sense he supports a very open door policy towards immigration
Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:43 PM (BTKKR)

Did you have the same concerns about McCain not being born on US soil?

I'm not sure if you're trolling or what, but these talking points are kind of ... lame.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:45 PM (AkOaV)

212 Miss Agum added that she last saw Holloway a month ago and after that she changed her number. Holloways mother told her she had not heard from her since and she went off the radar



There's your sign!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:45 PM (Q1QrS)

213 I wasn't around earlier for the DOOM post so I'll write about it here.

Monty is right when he says that artists (and authors, other creative types) dislike the market system for their goods. But he's a bit off about why. There are some who are elitist and frustrated that their genius is unrecognized, but that's not the main concern.

The problem for creative people is that we're good at being creative, and rarely any good at marketing or sales. So we make the goods then... we have to sell them, which not only are we no good at, but it takes away time and energy from our real job of creating, not to mention that most of us are introverted and feel wrong, embarrassed, and uncomfortable at sales and self promotion.

So its not a rejection of an economic system per se, its just an impediment to our work. Every minute I spend promoting my books is a minute I'm not writing. And I hate doing it. And I'm not any good at it, and it feels just... wrong.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 12:46 PM (39g3+)

214 212 Miss Agum added that she last saw Holloway a month ago and after that she changed her number. Holloways mother told her she had not heard from her since and she went off the radar



There's your sign!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:45 PM (Q1QrS)

she could have just been a depressed / unhappy person who hated her family and people and just ... snapped.

who knows?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:46 PM (AkOaV)

215 Carrie Fisher has been clean and sober for many years now. Not saying her using and drinking didn't take it's toll, but one also has to consider that she's getting old.

Trust me. Old age does strange things to people.
Posted by: Soona
##########

Harrison Ford seemed to have no issues and being roughly the same age, and I'm sure he's thrown back a few in his day. He was the strongest part of the movie

Fisher must have had too many crazy parties with Ted Kennedy and messed herself up bad on something more than alcohol.

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:46 PM (BTKKR)

216 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:41 PM (qES5k)
================================================


It's always a good thing to not get punched in the nose while doing church stuff. I'm glad that the evening went well, and that hearts were drawn towards God. You do good things with great faithfulness.

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:46 PM (dFi94)

217 The tree is pretty. But it really has little to do with the event that ushered in mankind's ultimate Freedom from human rulers.

With the birth of The Christ, all men have intrinsic dignity and worth - because God lives in them through Him. That was not the case before.
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff
...........
Betcha you're a barrel of fun at Christmas parties...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 21, 2015 12:47 PM (so+oy)

218 205 Insomniac, work in some Star Wars and she is actually a dead Sith looking for revenge.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:43 PM (nGyiN)

So...a Star Wars Holiday Special reboot?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:47 PM (kpqmD)

219 Name still not released.
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 12:42 PM (7v/r5)


Name and pic release:

Lakeisha N. Holloway, 24, of Portland

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:48 PM (gf8BH)

220 The prayers-not pyres. Darn autocorrect. The "let it burn" crowd hasn't suggested a pyre for me yet! ;^)

In your context, the tongues of flame should be a very different sort--may you be so fortunate!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 21, 2015 12:48 PM (9krrF)

221 215 Carrie Fisher has been clean and sober for many years now. Not saying her using and drinking didn't take it's toll, but one also has to consider that she's getting old.

Trust me. Old age does strange things to people.
Posted by: Soona
##########

Harrison Ford seemed to have no issues and being roughly the same age, and I'm sure he's thrown back a few in his day. He was the strongest part of the movie

Fisher must have had too many crazy parties with Ted Kennedy and messed herself up bad on something more than alcohol.
Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:46 PM (BTKKR)

Carrie Fisher did more coke than Freud. Hollywood lore has it that John Belushi (!) was telling her to slow the fuck down with the blow.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:48 PM (kpqmD)

222 she could have just been a depressed / unhappy person who hated her family and people and just ... snapped.

who knows?



Read #207. Family members all state she wasn't like that.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:49 PM (Q1QrS)

223 "Viggo Johansen"

Viggo Johnson is right!


*Still dialing this damn thing in*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 12:49 PM (g3IQs)

224 >>One blog, SuperStation95, did report the woman screamed 'Allahu Akbar,' while driving into the crowd...

So...(if true) would this make it a jihadi attack 3 days after the last time Obama reassured us there is no credible threat...and then went to see Star Wars movie w/Star Wars characters visiting the WH? You just can't satire Obama anymore - truth is weirder and more cartoonish than anything the Onion could think up

Posted by: Lizzy at December 21, 2015 12:49 PM (NOIQH)

225 209 202 Uh oh...

One blog, SuperStation95, did report the woman screamed 'Allahu Akbar,' while driving into the crowd, but that information hasn't been substantiated by police or reported in other media outlets.


Name still not released.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 12:42 PM (7v/r5)


If she were a pro-lifer or Christian she'd be all over the press by now.

Posted by: Iblis at December 21, 2015 12:49 PM (9221z)

226 This is not something she would ever do.

Obviously she did though.

Posted by: Lea at December 21, 2015 12:49 PM (lIU4e)

227
I watched the Democrat debate, and concluded a) the Sanders is totally unhinged, and b) his robotic gesticulations when making a point (playing the vertical piano) would drive me crazy about two weeks into a Sanders Administration.


Somebody mentioned their support for Sanders to me the other day. After the obligatory joke about "feel the Bern!" (you mean like an STD?), I called him a human howler monkey, shitting in his hands and throwing it at the evil one-percenters. It didn't go over well, as you can imagine, but I don't really care.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 21, 2015 12:49 PM (X6fMO)

228 We have a Christmas tradition of setting the tree up outside (before we decorate), and putting candles on it. We use aluminum foil to hold the candles in place. Then we light them at night. It's always raining on Christmas here, so they don't last all that long. This year, we'll bring the tree in afterwards and decorate it properly in the living room.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 21, 2015 12:49 PM (5HBd1)

229
212 Miss Agum added that she last saw Holloway a month ago and after that she changed her number. Holloways mother told her she had not heard from her since and she went off the radar



There's your sign!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:45 PM (Q1QrS)


------------------


It's BLM rage, ROP, or both.

Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 12:50 PM (Fmupd)

230 Harry Paratestes: ...I'm not sure if you're trolling or what...

I'm fairly sure.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Jolly Trollydaze at December 21, 2015 12:50 PM (O+0DS)

231 Name and pic release:

Lakeisha N. Holloway, 24, of Portland

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:48 PM

Thanks. The Brits had the name before American press. Ever notice that happens a lot?

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 12:51 PM (7v/r5)

232 "Viggo Johansen"

Viggo Johnson is right!



I must agree!!
--Howard Johnson!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:51 PM (Q1QrS)

233 Speaking of promotions. Running an ad with Amazon for Golden Isis. So far 1,300+ have seen the ad. Two have clicked. And no one has puurchased.

So I know what Taylor is talking about.

And starting tomorrow, Princess will be free again for download.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:52 PM (nGyiN)

234 31 Even with the three months of Christmas we've had this year, I still have more Christmas Spirit than Star Wars spirit.

Seriously, is there any item that doesn't have a SW tie-in right now?


Posted by: Chupacabra

My comments? Wait, wtf?

Posted by: Darth Strewn at December 21, 2015 12:52 PM (QdAXQ)

235 Did you have the same concerns about McCain not being born on US soil?

I'm not sure if you're trolling or what, but these talking points are kind of ... lame.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

#########

McCain was born in a Naval hospital on a US military base to American parents.

Cruz was born in Canada as a Canadian citizen

Regardless if you think that meets the "natural born" requirement, it's going to be an electoral problem for Cruz.

If Obama had been found to have been born in Kenya, he would have issues at the ballot box even though his mother was an American citizen.

That's not my issue with Cruz, but he'll lose votes over it, guaranteed

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:52 PM (BTKKR)

236 This is not something she would ever do.

It's not who she was.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 12:52 PM (FkBIv)

237 Did you have the same concerns about McCain not being born on US soil?

I'm not sure if you're trolling or what, but these talking points are kind of ... lame.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:45 PM (AkOaV)


I did...

Very simply.... I don't believe that the Founding Fathers intended someone with DUAL CITZENSHIP to ever be Commander in Chief...

Because at the time, Citizenship could and did lead to charges of Treason, and the Death Penalty.

Heck, the War of 1812 was partly fought because the SONS of British Citizen Fathers, were being impressed into the British Navy... because England considered them English Citizens... and thus subject to being impressed.

Thus, the Natural Born clause... to ensure the Commander in Chief would never have any possible issue on that subject.

Now, I will admit, I hold a very minority view on this subject... and one our Legal Establishment won't even consider...

but this is the same legal establishment that somehow makes growing Feed, to give to your OWN chickens, somehow INTERSTATE (ie between the States) Commerce...

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (f7rv6)

238 Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas says his national authority proposes to change its name on passports it issues to State of Palestine.


yeah? then the USA should not except them and should kick their ass's right out of the Country

Sigh but of course the USA will not...not with Fredo in the White House

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (gf8BH)

239 Insomniac, Ewoks roasting over an open fire???

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (nGyiN)

240 Read #207. Family members all state she wasn't like that.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:49 PM (Q1QrS)

I read the article. They say she changed recently, and if you notice -- the good things being said about her come from cousins. Her mom (or the cousin speakin on behalf of the mom?) says the daughter changed her phone number and didnt give her new number to her mom and "went off the radar".

That seems very odd.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (AkOaV)

241 Thanks, GW for the kind words.

He probably wouldn't have punched me even if he felt like it. His wife and baby were there, but he said "I'm _______" and crossed his arms. I wasn't about to say "Should I call you Sith Lord?" at a service for Christmas, He has an e-mail with "Sith" in it; I think I shared that. Merovign who signs his handle here with "Sith" in it would be much preferable to this particular Sith. Merovign is a really nice guy Everybody in his family says this guy flies off the handle. I am praying God will direct me how to deal with him a little more in the New Year. He needs healing

Now I feel like _____ having caught my son's virus
but God brought me through!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (qES5k)

242 Download Chrome and it appears to download properly. Nothing.

Reboot. Nothing.


Creeping around on Firefox.

Just thinking out loud.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (g3IQs)

243
Carrie Fisher did more coke than Freud. Hollywood lore has it that John Belushi (!) was telling her to slow the fuck down with the blow.


She also had a lot of relationship problems after Star Wars, because of the sudden celebrity. She did a lot of drugs to, in effect, destroy the Leia character ("I don't want anybody to be able to say they laid Leia!"), which was also a reason she took the Blues Brothers role, in an effort to get away from SW.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (X6fMO)

244 hat's not my issue with Cruz, but he'll lose votes over it, guaranteed
Posted by: Tobasco

Yeah, yours. Thanks for that insight.

Go collect your pineapple.

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas past at December 21, 2015 12:54 PM (326rv)

245 "With the birth of The Christ, all men have intrinsic dignity and worth - because God lives in them through Him. That was not the case before."

- "Betcha you're a barrel of fun at Christmas parties..." - Chi-Town

Right.. because Christians are horrible drab, mean-spirited wretches. Godless Left-wingers will be proud of your astute analysis.

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at December 21, 2015 12:54 PM (r4pNb)

246 239 Insomniac, Ewoks roasting over an open fire???
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (nGyiN)

Hoth frost nipping at your nose

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:54 PM (kpqmD)

247 MP4 - Somebody mentioned their support for Sanders to me the other day. After the obligatory joke about "feel the Bern!" (you mean like an STD?), I called him a human howler monkey, shitting in his hands and throwing it at the evil one-percenters. It didn't go over well, as you can imagine, but I don't really care.
..........
The most wonderful thing about the fervent Bernie supporters is very many of them hate Hillary with a passion and will not vote for her.

So, the more Hillary-bots shit on Sanders, the more Dems will be staying home on election day - assuming Hillary gets the nomination, that is.. which is probably almost guaranteed.

Now, if only we had a candidate who could take advantage of that!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 21, 2015 12:54 PM (so+oy)

248 Why the hell would you put a Christmas tree in the middle of the room? Now you have to decorate the whole damned thing.


Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 11:57 AM (XiVKO)

It's a Scandinavian thing (although maybe others too). There are a lot of Danish traditions involving dancing and singing around the tree.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 21, 2015 12:55 PM (i2Lsf)

249 read the article. They say she changed recently, and if you notice -- the good things being said about her come from cousins. Her mom (or the cousin speakin on behalf of the mom?) says the daughter changed her phone number and didnt give her new number to her mom and "went off the radar".

That seems very odd.



Doesn't sound like she hated her family. Does sound like something fundamentally changed in her life.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:55 PM (Q1QrS)

250 Carrie in Blues Brothers as the jilted love interest was awesome.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:55 PM (nGyiN)

251 Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (f7rv6)

It's unclear if Cruz was ever granted citizenship by Canada. He certainly made no positive steps (passport, national health card, etc) to ever claim it.

Obama OTOH, would be a British subject by birth, no? And what's his legal status in Indonesia?

Either way -- it doesn't matter at this point. Very since Van Buren, we've gone with the "natural-born means the opposite of naturalized" definition. Even though I think the older definition that you cite is more right than wrong.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:55 PM (AkOaV)

252 Six U.S. troops were killed in a suicide attack near Bagram Airfield, Afghanistan, on Monday, Military Times has learned.

What the FUCK are we doing there...We are NOT fighting.

Fight or Bring them Home, NOW!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:56 PM (gf8BH)

253 Doesn't sound like she hated her family. Does sound like something fundamentally changed in her life.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:55 PM (Q1QrS)

Could be.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:56 PM (AkOaV)

254 Lighten up, Francis.. geez louise.. you're harshing my mellow here..

Have a hot toddy, why don't ya..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 21, 2015 12:56 PM (so+oy)

255 The most wonderful thing about the fervent Bernie supporters is very many of them hate Hillary with a passion and will not vote for her.

They say that on an internet forum but who knows what they will do in the voting booth.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 12:56 PM (FkBIv)

256 Insomniac, do we really want to try and rewrite that song for Star Wars?

Let'em slay, let'em slay, let'em slay

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:56 PM (nGyiN)

257 The most wonderful thing about the fervent Bernie supporters is very many of them hate Hillary with a passion and will not vote for her.

So, the more Hillary-bots shit on Sanders, the more Dems will be staying home on election day - assuming Hillary gets the nomination, that is.. which is probably almost guaranteed.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 21, 2015 12:54 PM (so+oy)


_____

Meh. That's the whole PUMA thing again from 2008. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now. No matter who is on the ballot with a "D" next to the name, liberals will vote for that person.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 12:57 PM (0LHZx)

258 They say that on an internet forum but who knows what they will do in the voting booth.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 12:56 PM (FkBIv)

Bring a towel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:57 PM (gf8BH)

259 "Fight or Bring them Home, NOW!"

yes, but it demeans the military

for Obama and the Dems, that's a feature not a bug

Posted by: Feh at December 21, 2015 12:57 PM (2Wmrt)

260 Fight or Bring them Home, NOW!
Posted by: Nevergiveup


Sure glad they didn't have their boots on the ground, eh Barack?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 12:58 PM (FkBIv)

261 I'm a Republican who studies politics closely, therefore I am able to see opportunities that ordinary folks might miss.

When our friends on the Democratic side reveal that Rubio is their worst fear while Trump would be the easiest opponent to defeat, we should take that information and use it to our advantage.

We may disagree with the Democrats on certain issues, but that doesn't mean they would lie about election strategy.

Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at December 21, 2015 12:58 PM (Ui7Rt)

262 "Fight or Bring them Home, NOW!"

yes, but it demeans the military

for Obama and the Dems, that's a feature not a bug
Posted by: Feh at December 21, 2015 12:57 PM (2Wmrt)

What demeans the Military

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:58 PM (gf8BH)

263 Meh. That's the whole PUMA thing again from 2008. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now. No matter who is on the ballot with a "D" next to the name, liberals will vote for that person.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew

Mini-moo made a cogent point. Go figure. I agree with you on this.

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas past at December 21, 2015 12:58 PM (326rv)

264 I read the article. They say she changed recently, and if you notice -- the good things being said about her come from cousins. Her mom (or the cousin speakin on behalf of the mom?) says the daughter changed her phone number and didnt give her new number to her mom and "went off the radar".

That seems very odd.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:53 PM (AkOaV)


This young lady is 24? Many serious mental illnesses begin around that age, and that's what devastates family members. Someone they knew disappears, replaced by this person they don't know.


With the right treatment, they can return to a more or less normal life, but way way way too many people don't get the right treatment.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 21, 2015 12:59 PM (Dj0WE)

265 Very simply.... I don't believe that the Founding Fathers intended someone with DUAL CITZENSHIP to ever be Commander in Chief...

Posted by: BB Wolf

+1

I definitely feel it violates what the Founder's intended.

A Cuban migrant worker has a kid in Canada and is a dual citizen up until just a few years ago. Not an American "natural born citizen" in my opinion.

No court would take away the Presidency, but the Founder's put that clause in there for a reason.

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:59 PM (BTKKR)

266 "Fight or Bring them Home, NOW!"


That's exactly what ISIS wants us to do.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 21, 2015 12:59 PM (LUgeY)

267 Read #207. Family members all state she wasn't like that.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 12:49 PM (Q1QrS)


Her cousin said 'mum', which is a britishism...

Is this another black/british random violent act, like the guy at the college? That would be kind of weird.

Posted by: Lea at December 21, 2015 12:59 PM (lIU4e)

268 which was also a reason she took the Blues Brothers role, in an effort to get away from SW.

I do not understand actors and their need to avoid being cast in a certain role type. Jim Carrey was brilliant playing goofy lunatic funny guys then suddenly he had to do serious parts. The list of comic actors who've done this is endless: Robin Williams, Steve Martin, etc, etc, etc. Its ridiculous.

You're good at this, do your job. Groucho never felt like he had to break out of the Marx Brothers and establish himself as Julius Marx, serious actor. Humphrey Bogart never felt ruined or trapped as an actor because everyone cast him as a tough guy.

You got a great part and people love it? Great, work it. Make your career. Stop thinking you have to do other stuff or you're "typecast" and can't get real work. ALL work is real. That's why guys like Michael Caine and Nicholas Cage work constantly. They do not care about the role, they care about the job. They aren't trying to make a carefully sculpted career, they're just trying to work.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 01:00 PM (39g3+)

269 Meh. That's the whole PUMA thing again from 2008. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now. No matter who is on the ballot with a "D" next to the name, liberals will vote for that person.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
......
I'm sure that is possible, but Hillary doesn't have the charisma of Obama.. and, being white, African Americans will not be coming out in record numbers like they did for him either.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 21, 2015 01:00 PM (so+oy)

270 i'm guess the danish guy cut down the tree and put it up

evidence?

http://wapo.st/1YrQrus

Posted by: Feh at December 21, 2015 01:00 PM (2Wmrt)

271 Fight or Bring them Home, NOW!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:56 PM (gf8BH)


Yep.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 21, 2015 01:00 PM (WWdgA)

272 What the FUCK are we doing there...We are NOT fighting.



Fight or Bring them Home, NOW!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 12:56 PM (gf8BH)
===============================================

This makes me see red.

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 01:00 PM (dFi94)

273
Right.. because Christians are horrible drab, mean-spirited wretches. Godless Left-wingers will be proud of your astute analysis.
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff




I pulled your name out of the hat this year, so I'm your Secret Santa.

What size hair shirt do you wear? I want to make sure it fits.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 01:00 PM (kdS6q)

274 They blew up Alderaan
Pa rum pa pum pum
They shot at Luke and Han
Pa rum pa pum pum

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:01 PM (kpqmD)

275 Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 12:52 PM (BTKKR)

Uhh... again, if natural born means the opposite of naturalized (as everyone claimed when Obamas birth situation was brought up) then Cruz is just as eligible as Obama.

If natural born means "born to two US citizen parents on US soil" then Van Buren, McCain, Obama, and Cruz (and probably others who have been or have run for president) are/were ineligible.

And again, it's unclear if Canada ever considered Cruz a citizen, but he never made any steps to claim citizenship in Canada as far as I know.

I don't think it'll cost him a single vote either way, nor do I think it will cause him any issues in the campaign.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:01 PM (AkOaV)

276 i've heard from kids under 12 that hillary is unpopular with them because "she lies about everything"

interesting

Posted by: Feh at December 21, 2015 01:01 PM (2Wmrt)

277 The most wonderful thing about the fervent Bernie supporters is very many of them hate Hillary with a passion and will not vote for her.

------

They say that on an internet forum but who knows what they will do in the voting booth.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 12:56 PM (FkBIv)


Yeah, in '08 we were told Hilary supporters would NOT vote for Obama. We see how that turned out.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 21, 2015 01:01 PM (Dj0WE)

278 Unfortunately for Mary Jo, floating isn't their strong suit.
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at December 21, 2015 12:37 PM (8ZskC)


I thought there was an air pocket? She suffocated? Which IMHO is worse than drowning.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 01:01 PM (voOPb)

279 A Cuban migrant worker has a kid in Canada and is a dual citizen up until just a few years ago. Not an American "natural born citizen" in my opinion.

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You forgot the part about the mother being a US citizen. Which means even if the birth takes place on the moon, the baby is a natural born citizen. If one parent is a US citizen at the time of the baby's birth, the baby is a natural born US citizen. End of story.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:01 PM (0LHZx)

280 Col. Robin Olds to President Lyndon Johnson, "Win the g**damn war!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 01:01 PM (nGyiN)

281 I definitely feel it violates what the Founder's intended.

A Cuban migrant worker has a kid in Canada and is a dual citizen up until just a few years ago. Not an American "natural born citizen" in my opinion.



"I was present at his birth"
- Barack's granny who never left Kenya and has never been to Hawaii.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 01:01 PM (Q1QrS)

282 I'm sure that is possible, but Hillary doesn't have the charisma of Obama.. and, being white, African Americans will not be coming out in record numbers like they did for him either.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 21, 2015 01:00 PM (so+oy


But, but, but..... I thought Hillary was born a poor black child.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (voOPb)

283 No matter who is on the ballot with a "D" next to the name, liberals will vote for that person.

No, they won't-necessarily. I wasn't a PUMA and not a Hillary supporter but I was disgusted with what happened with the caucuses and for many things about Obama, of course and I haven't voted for a democrat since them. Who knows-Trump in some ways might appeal to them. I think he's right to trash Hillary.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (qES5k)

284 If natural born means "born to two US citizen parents on US soil" then Van Buren, McCain, Obama, and Cruz (and probably others who have been or have run for president) are/were ineligible.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:01 PM (AkOaV)

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It's actually only 1 US citizen parent. Which means both Cruz and Obama (assuming he was born in Kenya) are natural born and meet the standard to be prezzie.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (0LHZx)

285 Her cousin said 'mum', which is a britishism...

Is this another black/british random violent act, like the guy at the college? That would be kind of weird.
Posted by: Lea at December 21, 2015 12:59 PM (lIU4e)

I thought it was just the reporter quoting the "mum", probably something to do to an accent (either black vernacular or pacific northwest or some combination of the two).

Hell, I have absolutely no accent (heh) and "mom" and "mum" sound almost the same when I say them.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (AkOaV)

286 African Americans will not be coming out in record numbers like they did for him either.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry


If they can be whipped up into a frenzy. And the whippin' ain't started in earnest yet.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (FkBIv)

287 Back in the day peasants believed in the Divine Right of kings. Now liberals want to believe that about me.

I file this desire under "stuff white liberals/LIVs like".

Posted by: Barry, Roi du Soleil, digite du merde at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (9vLZK)

288 Unnamed witness...

The witness went on to say "As this unfolded, the only thing I recall as this happened is the insane sound of her car accelerating and the voice from the car was screaming "Allah Akbar!" I've heard the sound enough times on the news that I was waiting for a bomb to blow up or guns to start firing. "

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (7v/r5)

289 The Founding Fathers were simply trying to make sure that anyone who was president was never citizen of another nation before becoming a US citizen. You can tell they did so because the clause that the "natural born" part is found in gives an exemption to people before a certain year - the US didn't exist before a certain point, so necessarily people couldn't have been born US citizens.

I know there are more than a few people who argue and insist until they die that it means two parents, only in the US, but that's not the meaning and intent of the founders and it does not apply to the law.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (39g3+)

290 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 12:55 PM (AkOaV)

Yep.... bird has flown... barn door open... as it were...

But yes, Obama was born a dual Brit US Citizen, if the guy on his birth cert was his real father (the guy he looks NOTHING like)....

And he was adopted by Soetoro in Indonesia... actual name change... which would bring on Indonesian citizenship... and by Standard practice would have changed his birth cert in Hawaii (which is why I think the original is gone, and as Law permits, he had his lawyer change it back as an adult after both parents were dead)...

Whole thing will be an interesting book for some historian someday.... but does not matter to the political establishment of today...

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (f7rv6)

291 It's actually only 1 US citizen parent. Which means both Cruz and Obama (assuming he was born in Kenya) are natural born and meet the standard to be prezzie.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (0LHZx)

yes, that's the definition we use now. Which was my point.

"natural born" being used as the opposite of "naturalized."

So if you can get a SS number without a green card, you are eligible to run for president in other words.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (AkOaV)

292 That's exactly what ISIS wants us to do.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 21, 2015 12:59 PM (LUgeY)

I don't give a rat's ass what ISIS wants....

All they are is bate at this point.

They serve no purpose what so ever.

The only thing we "Control" are the 2 bases we are on parts of Kabul, and that Kabul is only sometimes.

It's bullshit

I am happy to fight, but this is BULLSHIT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (gf8BH)

293 "Col. Robin Olds to President Lyndon Johnson, "Win the g**damn war!"


Word. Do it right or go home.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (g3IQs)

294 Hey art threaders, for Christmas, here's a link to my comic from a couple of years back. Hardly scripturally accurate, but intended as mostly-light-hearted yet reverent.

[NB that I am not repeating my long, rambling three-part comment from Sunday's book thread.]

Journey to Bethlehem
http://bit.ly/1p0lYeT

Sample panel for the timid:
http://bit.ly/the-innkeeper

Posted by: mindful webworker - comically at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (O+0DS)

295 If they can be whipped up into a frenzy. And the whippin' ain't started in earnest yet.
............
Certainly.. and Trump being the nominee would help that quite a bit as well..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (so+oy)

296
I be votin' for Hillary cause she has the Hillary phone, Hillary monthly check, Hillary Section 8 housing, Hillary food stamps, Hillary WIC, Hillary EITC, and she don't be putin' black folk in jail for minor stuff like lootin', robbin', or stealin'.

Posted by: Rachael Jeantel at December 21, 2015 01:05 PM (OiFtZ)

297 No, they won't-necessarily. I wasn't a PUMA and not a Hillary supporter but I was disgusted with what happened with the caucuses and for many things about Obama, of course and I haven't voted for a democrat since them. Who knows-Trump in some ways might appeal to them. I think he's right to trash Hillary.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (qES5k)

_____

Will 100% of Bernie sycophants vote for Hillary? No. But the vast, vast, vast majority will. Those who won't probably wouldn't have voted Hillary in the first place and would have voted for Socialist or Green parties or written in Karl Marx or some shit.

Point is Hillary won't lose any votes by shitting on Bernie.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:05 PM (0LHZx)

298 "What demeans the Military"

putting them in harm's way without ever intending to do what it takes to help them win

it's demoralizing

but Obama and the Dems can play the situation however they want: 1) we're there doing things! we're committed! or 2) this is a holdover mess from McChimpy Bushitler, it's not our fault! isn't war terrible? etc

they are cynics, and our soldiers pay the price

Posted by: Feh at December 21, 2015 01:05 PM (2Wmrt)

299 "Nu har vi jul igen"

Otherwise known as Newt the Happy Hooligan

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 21, 2015 01:05 PM (i2Lsf)

300 I'm sure that is possible, but Hillary doesn't have the charisma of Obama.. and, being white, African Americans will not be coming out in record numbers like they did for him either.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

This is valid. But one doesn't negate or prove the other. Sanders is the one they feel that they can talk about out loud. In the end, will they vote in lockstep as they usually do, vote for da bolshevik, or stay home?

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas past at December 21, 2015 01:05 PM (326rv)

301 I am happy to fight, but this is BULLSHIT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (gf8BH)
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Yep. Which is why the low number of re-ups.

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 01:06 PM (dFi94)

302 "What size hair shirt do you wear?"

I'll take Cashmere. Thanks.

Why you think understanding where your basic Freedoms come from is somehow self flagellating is odd.

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at December 21, 2015 01:06 PM (r4pNb)

303 If they can be whipped up into a frenzy.

I still don't see it happening. They turned out to help a brother get to the White House, of course they were gonna vote for Obama. But after this economy, the way things are? I don't see the big turnout for Hillary. And I believe, without hard evidence, that Trump would pull in a lot more black votes than people expect.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 01:06 PM (39g3+)

304 i'm voting for hillary because it's payback time you patriarchal cisnormative oppressive joy-killing racist christian white bitches

Posted by: BLM at December 21, 2015 01:07 PM (2Wmrt)

305 It's actually only 1 US citizen parent. Which means both Cruz and Obama (assuming he was born in Kenya) are natural born and meet the standard to be prezzie.



Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:03 PM (0LHZx)

Actually, under the original Legal standards when the Constitution was written...

Citizenship followed your FATHER's bloodline... and only the Mother's if you were a bastard unacknowledged by your Father.

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 01:07 PM (f7rv6)

306 Hoth frost nipping at your nose
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:54 PM (kpqmD)


My little niece said she wanted to watch the 'Christmas star wars' and it took her mom a minute to figure out she meant empire : )

Posted by: Lea at December 21, 2015 01:07 PM (lIU4e)

307 I like that painting. Good pick.

Posted by: Hillary's alcholic depression at December 21, 2015 01:08 PM (Z+7WE)

308 Anybody watch that ISIS video linked in the sidebar?

Say what you will about the fuckers...they sure as shit know what they are fighting for AND are committed to their cause. It's very disturbing how well done that video is.

I feel like Bagdadi is Voldemort and we are being led by Cornelius Fudge.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 21, 2015 01:08 PM (PFy0L)

309 - Cervix

Here - let me refresh your memory..

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at December 21, 2015 01:09 PM (r4pNb)

310 Holy crap. It's like 12:15 and we're still doing the Art thread.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:10 PM (g3IQs)

311 Journey to Bethlehem

http://bit.ly/1p0lYeT



Sample panel for the timid:

http://bit.ly/the-innkeeper

Posted by: mindful webworker - comically at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (O+0DS)
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I liked that. I liked it a lot. Thank you.

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 01:10 PM (dFi94)

312 But after this economy, the way things are?

Low unemployment. Low interest rates. High stock market.

The numbers may be fudged but they are the numbers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 01:10 PM (FkBIv)

313 NOW...They can NOT rule out terrorism

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 01:11 PM (gf8BH)

314 306 Hoth frost nipping at your nose
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:54 PM (kpqmD)

My little niece said she wanted to watch the 'Christmas star wars' and it took her mom a minute to figure out she meant empire : )
Posted by: Lea at December 21, 2015 01:07 PM (lIU4e)

That's adorable.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:12 PM (kpqmD)

315 The Father of Our Country left his eggnog recipe to posterity.

Can you leave it for us? :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 12:17 PM (qES5k)


Certainly.

Here's it is with recommendations for the liquors (which you don't have to take all that seriously:

Rittenhouse rye is a good choice
Jamaican rum you need for the awesome flava so try Hamilton Pot Still Black Rum or get Smith & Cross (it's much easier to find)
The sherry should be a sweeter one.

Ugh. Pixyware sux. I can't simply cut and paste, so:

1 qt cream
1 qt milk
12 tbs sugar
12 eggs
1 pint brandy
1/2 pint rye whisky
1/2 pint Jamaican rum
1/4 pint sherry

These are George Washington's directions:

"Mix liquor first, then separate yolks and whites of eggs, add sugar to beaten yolks, mix well.
Add milk and cream, slowly beating. Beat whites of eggs until stiff and fold slowly into mixture. Let set in cool place for several days. Taste frequently."


Sorry about the delay. Work I must.

and as a reminder Pixyware sux.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 21, 2015 01:12 PM (0cMkb)

316 I suspect many Bernie "voters" are rather "supporters" who think hes keen but don't go out and actually vote.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 01:12 PM (39g3+)

317 Vegas driver identified as 24 year old Lakeisha N. Holloway of Portland. No report yet regarding "what the fuck?"

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:13 PM (8/DeP)

318 This is valid. But one doesn't negate or prove the other. Sanders is the one they feel that they can talk about out loud. In the end, will they vote in lockstep as they usually do, vote for da bolshevik, or stay home?

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas past at December 21, 2015 01:05 PM (326rv)

I'll take vote in lockstep in % that would embarrass the old soviet block

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 21, 2015 01:13 PM (QPdNE)

319 The key to winning African-American votes is simple: Embrace Diversity and denounce the extremists.

This applies to our wonderful Immigrant Community as well.

Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at December 21, 2015 01:13 PM (Ui7Rt)

320 I love to suck the juuce out of corn cobs and chicken bones. Yet the chicken is an animal and corn is a fruit, although chickens do eat corn. Would their bones still have juice if they ate something other than corn?

Posted by: thoughts of Joe Biden at December 21, 2015 01:13 PM (9vLZK)

321 Posted by: naturalfake at December 21, 2015 01:12 PM (0cMkb)
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I read that as 12 lbs. of sugar, and thought WHOA

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 01:14 PM (dFi94)

322 312 But after this economy, the way things are?

Low unemployment. Low interest rates. High stock market.

The numbers may be fudged but they are the numbers.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 01:10 PM (FkBIv)


It LOW EMPLOYMENT.... we have less people as a percentage working than we have in 40 years..

Low Interest rates... which means no return on SAVING money... which is a BAD thing... as Inflation is greater than Interest...

And a High Stock Market... which is inflated artificially because there is no where else to park money where you can make more than inflation...


ergo, the numbers you use to tout a 'good' economy, is anything but...

Its like saying the Winner of the Football game with the Team who gets the most yards... not the one who scores the most points.... ie.. meaningless numbers...

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 21, 2015 01:14 PM (f7rv6)

323 I suspect many Bernie "voters" are rather "supporters" who think hes keen but don't go out and actually vote.

I've seen more than a few "Bernie" stickers on cars that also have pro-pot stickers, so you may have something here.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 01:14 PM (4WhSY)

324 The key to winning African-American votes is simple: Embrace Diversity and denounce the extremists.

And let them hit you with their cars. That is apparently important, too.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:15 PM (8/DeP)

325 " 24 year old Lakeisha N. Holloway"


Not to stereo-type.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:15 PM (g3IQs)

326 >>i'm voting for hillary because it's payback time you patriarchal
cisnormative oppressive joy-killing racist christian white bitches


Ah, so I guess this means the DNC's check, er, show of financial support of BLM has cleared?

BLM was so bought off.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 21, 2015 01:15 PM (NOIQH)

327 324 The key to winning African-American votes is simple: Embrace Diversity and denounce the extremists.

And let them hit you with their cars. That is apparently important, too.
Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:15 PM (8/DeP)

Indeed. Leaping out of the way would be racist.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:16 PM (kpqmD)

328 ergo, the numbers you use to tout a 'good' economy, is anything but...

I'm not using them. They are.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 01:16 PM (FkBIv)

329 If you look closely at Grandma in the background, you'll see she's stuffing multiple 30 round magazines in her corset.

Posted by: Fritz at December 21, 2015 01:16 PM (UzPAd)

330 To the best of my knowledge US law has always only required one parent be a citizen to pass on birthright citizenship. Whether it was only given through the dad back when only men could vote does not really signify, that was a cultural limitation that has since been discarded.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 01:16 PM (39g3+)

331 I suspect many Bernie "voters" are rather "supporters" who think hes keen but don't go out and actually vote.

I've seen more than a few "Bernie" stickers on cars that also have pro-pot stickers, so you may have something here.
Posted by: Blanco Basura

Bernie is the ideal dem primary candidate; He's the full Biden of dem politics. And why should primary voters settle for some clod that will disappoint them? Think Ralph nader.

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas past at December 21, 2015 01:17 PM (326rv)

332
Journey to Bethlehem


http://bit.ly/1p0lYeT




Sample panel for the timid:

http://bit.ly/the-innkeeper

Posted by: mindful webworker - comically at December 21, 2015 01:04 PM (O+0DS)
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That was really something lovely. God bless you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 21, 2015 01:17 PM (X6fMO)

333 313 NOW...They can NOT rule out terrorism
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 01:11 PM (gf8BH)

Er... but they already ruled out it.

So they're unruling it out?

Can they do that?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:17 PM (AkOaV)

334 Posted by: naturalfake at December 21, 2015 01:12 PM (0cMkb)
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I read that as 12 lbs. of sugar, and thought WHOA



We making moonshine?

(I saw that too. Damn font)

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 01:17 PM (Q1QrS)

335 They're not ruling out ruling it in.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 01:18 PM (FkBIv)

336
George Takei

Don't let Trump fear-mongering provoke measures against unfounded suspicions of 'otherness.'

http://usat.ly/1TZD4Lh

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 01:18 PM (kdS6q)

337 333 313 NOW...They can NOT rule out terrorism
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 01:11 PM (gf8BH)

Er... but they already ruled out it.

So they're unruling it out?

Can they do that?



NFL Ref: Upon further review, ......

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 01:18 PM (Q1QrS)

338 I am happy to fight, but this is BULLSHIT

I should've put a /sarc tag at the end of that comment.

And I wholeheartedly agree. This administration and quite a few others before it seem to have forgotten that the whole idea of fighting a war is to win it. Whatever it is that they're doing now is resulting in wars that end instead, usually with calamitous results and far less stability.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 21, 2015 01:19 PM (LUgeY)

339 I suspect many Bernie "voters" are rather "supporters" who think hes keen but don't go out and actually vote.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 01:12 PM


Not 100% sure of that. He's getting a metric fuckton of money from his "supporters" -- he's running more teevee ads in the NE than anyone but Shrillery, and that ain't cheap.

People who are coughing up the spondulix tend to vote.

That said, I don't think he can beat Shrillery. He'll get some payoff to withdraw and support her. Maybe she'll make Crazy Uncle SecState, like Wilson did William Jennings Bryan.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 21, 2015 01:19 PM (z/vax)

340 Journey to Bethlehem

I liked it

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 01:19 PM (39g3+)

341 Er... but they already ruled out it.

So they're unruling it out?

Can they do that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:17 PM (AkOaV)

Of course

Remmeber San Bernadino was work place violence at first, then gun violence, then ....

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 01:19 PM (gf8BH)

342 Just letting you know, it's beautiful in Hawaii today! Figure I owe you that much, since y'all paid for the trip. See you in about two weeks!

Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at December 21, 2015 01:19 PM (YFFpo)

343 NOW...They can NOT rule out terrorism

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 01:11 PM

But you know they'll try their damnedest. Las Vegas as terrorist target could cripple their economy.

Shame the Senator from that state doesn't wise the f up.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 01:19 PM (7v/r5)

344 >>>304 i'm voting for hillary because it's payback time you patriarchal cisnormative oppressive joy-killing racist christian white bitches
Posted by: BLM at December 21, 2015 01:07 PM (2Wmrt)

Hillary! herself fits some, or all, of those descriptors.

Posted by: m at December 21, 2015 01:20 PM (d4uu4)

345 Anybody watch that ISIS video linked in the sidebar?

Say what you will about the fuckers...they sure as shit know what they are fighting for AND are committed to their cause. It's very disturbing how well done that video is.

I feel like Bagdadi is Voldemort and we are being led by Cornelius Fudgepacker.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 21, 2015 01:08 PM (PFy0L)



FIFY

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 21, 2015 01:20 PM (493sH)

346 They're not ruling out ruling it in.




A witness must have been filming with a phone csm and recorded aloha snackbar!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 01:20 PM (Q1QrS)

347 Cruz will be in Tulsa Wednesday morning "as part of what they're calling the 'Cruz Country Christmas Tour.'"

Not sure if he'll be reading from the "Christmas" books like in his commercial. -heh

Appearing him will be our Congresscritter, the only Oklahoman to vote No on the Omniverous bill.

We probably won't make it, even if we spend the night down at Mom's. But we might try.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Cruz/Bridenstein 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:20 PM (O+0DS)

348 Just to follow-up on a story that lost steam, the black man who drove his car into cops protecting Denver students who decided to hold a spontaneous Ferguson protest downtown in the middle of the day (yeah, stupid) - well, dude was released on bail, promised to provide medical records that confirm he had "and episode" (his excuse for running over 4 cops), and then he disappeared/fled town - poof!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 21, 2015 01:20 PM (NOIQH)

349
"They're not ruling out ruling it in."


That's awesome. Wish I'd thought of that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:20 PM (g3IQs)

350 Can they do that?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:17 PM (AkOaV)

Fuck yea

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 21, 2015 01:21 PM (QPdNE)

351 Don't let Trump fear-mongering provoke measures against unfounded suspicions of 'otherness.'

Forget about the brotherly and otherly love.

https://youtu.be/dfJB-uadMTk

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 01:21 PM (FkBIv)

352 Merry Christmas to all.

Happy New Year too.

May 2016 be remembered for a Democratic presidential candidate being indicted and Ted Cruz being voted in as our next president.

Posted by: dufuss at December 21, 2015 01:21 PM (CIoyl)

353 He's getting a metric fuckton of money from his "supporters"

I think he has a few really rich, dedicated supporters, but most of the people?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 01:21 PM (39g3+)

354 323 I suspect many Bernie "voters" are rather "supporters" who think hes keen but don't go out and actually vote.

I've seen more than a few "Bernie" stickers on cars that also have pro-pot stickers, so you may have something here.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 01:14 PM (4WhSY)

Yeah because nobody who supports decriminalizing pot ever votes. When Colorado, Washington and Alaska voted to legalize it was all a dream.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:21 PM (0LHZx)

355 >>I feel like Bagdadi is Voldemort and we are being led by Cornelius Fudgepacker.


Threadwinner

Posted by: Lizzy at December 21, 2015 01:22 PM (NOIQH)

356 They don't have an "exact" motive yet. So please tell us the unexact motive. They always say this with ROP or a similar politically correct group.

Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 01:22 PM (Fmupd)

357 If Obama had an older daughter, she might look like Lakeisha Holloway.

But then again, if his wife didn't look like Lieutenant Worf, she might look like Patrick Ewing.

I'm not sure what to make of all that, I'll have to wait for the MSM to form their narrative. All I know for sure right now is, racism.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:23 PM (8/DeP)

358
Of course

Remmeber San Bernadino was work place violence at first, then gun violence, then ....
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 01:19 PM (gf8BH)

Right, but I dont think the cops ever said in a presser that they've "ruled out" terrorism.

I'm more laughing at that than anything else.

They hold a presser like 3 hours after an incident and they say "we have ruled our xyz"

How? You've had like 2 hours to investigate and an hour to get make up before your big premier in front of the media? Can can you rule ANYTHING out in that short amount of time?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:23 PM (AkOaV)

359 I suspect many Bernie "voters" are rather "supporters" who think hes keen but don't go out and actually vote.

I've seen more than a few "Bernie" stickers on cars that also have pro-pot stickers, so you may have something here.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 01:14 PM (4WhSY)




I'm only seeing Bernie bumperstickers in the Chicago area. Which helps explain why this area is in such great shape.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 21, 2015 01:24 PM (493sH)

360 I've seen a lot of Bernie stickers at ski resort parking lots. It's comical though when you see a $50K brand new Audi with a Bernie sticker on it. These people really think when Bernie says tax the rich he means someone else, and not people who buy $50K cars.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:25 PM (0LHZx)

361 Could be workplace violence. If you worked on a sidewalk outside a casino.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:25 PM (8/DeP)

362 This latest bombing in Afghanistan is another example of why I'm so damned adamant about keeping my kids out of the military.

It's not a war-fighting organization anymore. It's a social experiment ... with the added bonus of literally being a living target with little room allowed for self-defense. Frankly ... they appear more and more to be living sacrifices to an ideology.

I do not see this shit changing in my lifetime.

Posted by: Irony at December 21, 2015 01:26 PM (Pn0FW)

363 I remember when I first laid eyes on Huma.

She sang, "If you wanna be my lover, you gotta get with my friends!"

And I was like, "F'yeah! Allahu Akhbar! ULULULULULUH!"

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 21, 2015 01:26 PM (9vLZK)

364 How? You've had like 2 hours to investigate and an
hour to get make up before your big premier in front of the media? Can
can you rule ANYTHING out in that short amount of time?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:23 PM


How long does it take to make a phone call from Hawai'i to Nevada?

I'm sure Choom Boy had his flunkies pass The Word to the LV cops, speedy-speedy.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 21, 2015 01:26 PM (z/vax)

365 Vegas killer driver Lakeisha Holloway ominously posted photo of crime scene on FB over 3 years ago
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*tin foil hat on

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 21, 2015 01:26 PM (fWAjv)

366 What incident in Las Vegas is everybody talking about?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 01:26 PM (qES5k)

367 Just letting you know, it's beautiful in Hawaii today! Figure I owe you that much, since y'all paid for the trip. See you in about two weeks!


Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at December 21, 2015 01:19 PM (YFFpo)




You're overworked. Take the next 13 months off

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 21, 2015 01:26 PM (493sH)

368 I've seen a lot of Bernie stickers at ski resort parking lots. It's comical though when you see a $50K brand new Audi with a Bernie sticker on it. These people really think when Bernie says tax the rich he means someone else, and not people who buy $50K cars.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew

They don't "think so"; they know so. They have experts. They have investments. They are largely immune from what they inflict.

Posted by: Shipper John Kerry, captain of the S.S. Deadbeat at December 21, 2015 01:27 PM (326rv)

369 Can can you rule ANYTHING out in that short amount of time?

Yes, but only if you really, really, really want it to be true.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:27 PM (8/DeP)

370 Can can you rule ANYTHING out in that short amount of time?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:23 PM (AkOaV)

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If I tell them to.... why yes.

Posted by: Preznit Obama at December 21, 2015 01:27 PM (fxwne)

371 I can imagine an eyewitness being afraid of Muslim backlash, and the legal team at CAIR putting him/her through the ringer so therefore afraid to give his/her name.

I couldn't imagine it happening 20 years ago, pre-fundamental transformation.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 01:27 PM (7v/r5)

372 >>Can can you rule ANYTHING out in that short amount of time?

Nope. The reflexive "not terrorism" is a sure sign that it may be terrorism. Remember with the PP shooter they knew right away it was right-wing terrorism caused by the undercover PP videos and bloggers.

In these cases I imagine that there is tremendous pressure from DHS and FBI (i.e. Obama) to claim "not terrorism" because narrative. Obama needs his "me time" in Hawaii, not being dragged into another dang speech to calm the rubes.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 21, 2015 01:28 PM (NOIQH)

373 366 What incident in Las Vegas is everybody talking about?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 01:26 PM (qES5k)

The lady driving through the crowd repeatedly.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 21, 2015 01:28 PM (fWAjv)

374 Vegas killer driver Lakeisha Holloway ominously posted photo of crime scene on FB over 3 years ago

Did she have some sort of real/perceived bad experience there?

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 21, 2015 01:28 PM (326rv)

375 What incident in Las Vegas is everybody talking about?

auto-jihad

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 21, 2015 01:28 PM (ZQfW9)

376 Have any of these jackholes listened impartially to a Hillary! speech? The whole thing is fear.

So, kindly fvck off.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 01:29 PM (XiVKO)

377 Police said Lakeisha Holloway, 24, drove her car into a crowd Sunday
near the Paris Las Vegas casino and hotel, killing Jessica Valenzuela,
32. Three other victims are in critical condition.

Imma going out on a limb here and speculate this perp is in a protected class?

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 21, 2015 01:29 PM (j/0iw)

378 Is the Affluenza Kid still on the rung?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (iQIUe)

379 grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 01:10 PM
Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 21, 2015 01:17 PM
Christopher Taylor at December 21, 2015 01:19 PM

Thanks. Glad y'all enjoyed it. I recall it being a load of work, but I had fun doing it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Merry Almost Christmas at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (O+0DS)

380 They don't "think so"; they know so. They have experts. They have investments. They are largely immune from what they inflict.
Posted by: Shipper John Kerry, captain of the S.S. Deadbeat at December 21, 2015 01:27 PM (326rv)

_______

That's not who they are. The people with the army of lawyers and accountants aren't the ones with Bernie stickers. These peeps are the upper middle class, well off but not powerful enough to get out of paying taxes. But these same people are under the belief that earning $200K a year doesn't make them "rich" in the eyes of Bernie.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (0LHZx)

381 374 Vegas killer driver Lakeisha Holloway ominously posted photo of crime scene on FB over 3 years ago

Did she have some sort of real/perceived bad experience there?



Lost her ass in 3 Card Monte.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (Q1QrS)

382 run run run!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (iQIUe)

383 The lady driving through the crowd repeatedly.

I haven't seen anything about that. I'll look.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (qES5k)

384 "What incident in Las Vegas is everybody talking about?"


Some ol' gal ran her car into a crowd on the street.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (g3IQs)

385 ... and you people used to think WE were bad.

Posted by: The Irish at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (Pn0FW)

386 Didn't some Pali terrorist just drive his car into a crowd in Israel recently (September / October-ish, at a bus stop or something like that)?

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (8/DeP)

387 Lakeisha Holloway

So Amish then...

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (/dSsq)

388 What incident in Las Vegas is everybody talking about?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 01:26 PM


Having a Charlie Gibson moment, FS?

Cliff's Notes version: woman in Oldsmobile deliberately plows into pedestrians in Vegas, kills at least one, injures at least 37. Woman is apparently dark-complected. Media backs WAY off, because a) Black Lives Matter (when they're committing an illegal and disgusting act) and b) because there are claims she self-identified as Muzzie.

Silence ensues.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 21, 2015 01:31 PM (z/vax)

389 Was she driving a Jihaudi?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 21, 2015 01:31 PM (NeFrd)

390 Cars are horrifically deadly. Muchso more than guns.

Sadly, I think the terrorists are figuring that out.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 01:32 PM (XiVKO)

391
I brought my bike helmet to Hawaii to provide a good example to children and republican's everywhere about the proper way to ride a pink bicycle.

Posted by: Hussein the Comforter at December 21, 2015 01:32 PM (OiFtZ)

392 In these cases I imagine that there is tremendous pressure from DHS and FBI (i.e. Obama) to claim "not terrorism" because narrative. Obama needs his "me time" in Hawaii, not being dragged into another dang speech to calm the rubes.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 21, 2015 01:28 PM (NOIQH)

But it's just as easy to say, "we're still in the preliminary stages of this investigation. We cannot rule out any motive at this time."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:32 PM (AkOaV)

393 Lakeisha Holloway

----

Any relation to La-a????



(Pronounced "la dash a")

Posted by: fixerupper at December 21, 2015 01:32 PM (fxwne)

394 naturalfake, thanks for the recipe. I'll pass it along to my son to whip up.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Merry *hic* Christmas at December 21, 2015 01:32 PM (O+0DS)

395 Came here to say this:
52 Once more, without all the little Swedish ding-dongs


Nu ar det jul igen, och nu ar det jul igen, och julen varar an till paska.



What we sing when we dance around the tree on Christmas Eve. Usually tipsy by then. That's what this Scandi family appears to be doing.
Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 12:08 PM (dFi94)

So I'll just put up some vid of the swedish dah-who-dorray: http://youtu.be/uUVeIaWfvok

Posted by: Perfectly serious at December 21, 2015 01:33 PM (3fTXW)

396 ... and you people used to think WE were bad.
Posted by: The Irish

And they were right!

Posted by: Papist Bograt at December 21, 2015 01:33 PM (326rv)

397
USAToday

Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman, who unsuccessfully sought the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, says he's getting "a lot" of encouragement to launch another White House bid from Republicans concerned about the prospect of Donald Trump as the 2016 GOP nominee.

This time, to run as an independent.




Here in this best of all possible worlds....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 01:33 PM (kdS6q)

398 Cair-less driving.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 01:33 PM (7v/r5)

399 But it's just as easy to say, "we're still in the preliminary stages of this investigation. We cannot rule out any motive at this time."

They should, but their instructions were to deny any connection to terrorism...

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 01:33 PM (/dSsq)

400 Pic of the misunderstood young lady here:

http://tinyurl.com/hzwh32c

Something's definitely wrong with this story, though. There's no way any 1996 Oldsmobiles are still running.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:34 PM (8/DeP)

401 Having a Charlie Gibson moment, FS?

Nope; Until I got here I was taking a nap, and when I did get here I didn't read all the comment so I gather this happened recently and I missed it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 01:34 PM (qES5k)

402 That's not who they are. The people with the army of lawyers and accountants aren't the ones with Bernie stickers. These peeps are the upper middle class, well off but not powerful enough to get out of paying taxes. But these same people are under the belief that earning $200K a year doesn't make them "rich" in the eyes of Bernie.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (0LHZx)

Yeah. Lots of Bernie stickers around here. Some on very nice cars (some idiot put a bernie sticker on the trunk of his brand new BMW. I mean cmon dude, you're going to ruin the paint. Bumper stickers go on windows.)

Some on less nice cars.

But yeah, I do get a kick out of it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:34 PM (AkOaV)

403 Whenever there is someone who could possibly Muslim involved in any incident, and the FBI/ DHS says "not terrorism" I immediately assume it's ''terrorism."

/soon your 5 oz government chocolate ration will be increased to 2 oz. It is a glorious time to be alive proles!

Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at December 21, 2015 01:35 PM (9JJgN)

404 Yeah, I thought cash-for-clunkers killed off all the cars of that vintage.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 21, 2015 01:35 PM (XiVKO)

405 The Las Vegas bad driver thing doesn't add up. Since when is an Asian woman named "Lakeisha"?

Posted by: Furious George at December 21, 2015 01:35 PM (3GAnN)

406 She was a good girl. She was trying to turn her life Oldsmobile around.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 21, 2015 01:35 PM (NeFrd)

407 ormer Utah governor Jon Huntsman, who unsuccessfully sought the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, says he's getting "a lot" of encouragement to launch another White House bid from Republicans concerned about the prospect of Donald Trump as the 2016 GOP nominee.

This time, to run as an independent.


Because the clown car was just starting to empty out. And it needs that classic performance that Jon brought to the last race.

Posted by: Papist Bograt at December 21, 2015 01:35 PM (326rv)

408 I was hit by crazy Islamist bitch screaming Allah Ahckbar on the Strip! Best friend got knees clipped!


O.O


*grain of salt

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 21, 2015 01:36 PM (fWAjv)

409 Was she driving a Jihaudi?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 21, 2015 01:31 PM (NeFrd)

----

Nope. A domestic.

An Impale-ya

Posted by: fixerupper at December 21, 2015 01:36 PM (fxwne)

410 Huntsman, Kristol is waiting for you.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2015 01:36 PM (FkBIv)

411 If I drove a 20 year old Oldsmobile, I'd probably go insane as well.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:36 PM (0LHZx)

412 >>Didn't some Pali terrorist just drive his car into a crowd in Israel recently

Yeah, happens a lot when they catch 'sudden jihadi syndrome':

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_UNC_SUV_attack
http://tinyurl.com/kdbv33l
http://tinyurl.com/oj4rpoa
http://tinyurl.com/p4e4wcv

Posted by: Lizzy at December 21, 2015 01:36 PM (NOIQH)

413 Was she driving a Jihaudi?

Mini-Kuffir

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 21, 2015 01:36 PM (8ZskC)

414 Had some corn earlier. Feces should be interesting. Will keep y'alls posted.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 21, 2015 01:36 PM (9vLZK)

415 Also the the swedish song means

Now it's Christmas again, Christmas may well last to Easter

Well, not really 'cause there's that fast in between.


Posted by: Perfectly serious at December 21, 2015 01:36 PM (3fTXW)

416 Again, I'm far from convinced it was terrorism by the way. Could have just as likely been a whackadoodle.

I'm sure we'll learn more (well, between the lines. The media will not cover this if it turns out she's a Muslim convert or anything like that.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:37 PM (AkOaV)

417 The Las Vegas bad driver thing doesn't add up. Since when is an Asian woman named "Lakeisha"?
Posted by: Furious George at December 21, 2015 01:35 PM (3GAnN)

----

French Oriental

"Le Geisha". Press messed it up.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 21, 2015 01:37 PM (fxwne)

418 Was she driving a Jihaudi?



Toyota with a gun mount?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 01:37 PM (Q1QrS)

419 >>Cair-less driving.

Or 'driving with CAIR'?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 21, 2015 01:38 PM (NOIQH)

420 The perp had a child in the back seat.

Over/under on whether the child's name is Xcreisha?


Posted by: Joe Mama at December 21, 2015 01:38 PM (j/0iw)

421 Toyota with a gun mount?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 01:37 PM (Q1QrS)

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Oh ..... so she's disabled!!

She has turrets syndrome.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 21, 2015 01:38 PM (fxwne)

422 Business opportunity. Create tree and log fire video for broadcasters with random events. Cat playing with ornament, spark from fire melting into rug, train on track trundling through, kid peeking around corner, parent dropping by late present, cat peeking out of tree.
The trick is to make the events happen juuuust often enough to keep people watching. Because the train would have ads on the boxcars. The presents would be badly wrapped and let you see the product name. Dad would drop the bottle walking through and we would see what he was drinking.
Get busy, starving YouTube artiste!

Any other football stadiums play the burning log fire video on the big screen after the game?

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 21, 2015 01:39 PM (FtrY1)

423 There's no way any 1996 Oldsmobiles are still running.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:34 PM


Olds Aurora, officially not called an "Oldsmobile" at all. Pretty decent car, even if there are no dealerships left to service them. They have almost zero resale value, which makes them attractive to the financially challenged.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 21, 2015 01:39 PM (z/vax)

424 416 Again, I'm far from convinced it was terrorism by the way. Could have just as likely been a whackadoodle.

Agreed..... Probably had a Trump sticker on Her car... At least She did after they put one there....

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 01:39 PM (/dSsq)

425 There's no way any 1996 Oldsmobiles are still running.


Not impossible, but expensive. I passed down to our daughter a big old Olds when she got her drivers license. I felt she was safe in it.

Which proved to be true when a tractor trailer sideswiped it and totaled it.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 01:39 PM (7v/r5)

426 Well she sounds mostly crazy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 01:39 PM (gf8BH)

427 " Since when is an Asian woman named "Lakeisha"?"


Caitlyn, I know you're watching, so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:39 PM (g3IQs)

428 "... and you people used to think WE were bad. "

Ted Kennedy
Yep bad people.

Posted by: opinion at December 21, 2015 01:39 PM (CzhL0)

429 in case this painting strikes anyone as a bit much, I recommend searching for images with the search terms "mug shot"

Posted by: BLM at December 21, 2015 01:39 PM (2Wmrt)

430 As this unfolded, the only thing I recall as this happened is the insane sound of her car accelerating and the voice from the car was screaming Allah Akbar! I've heard the sound enough times on the news and posts on here that I was waiting for a bomb to blow up or guns to start firing. My friends ducked into the Hard Rock Casino which is right by the Paris and waited to see if something else was going to happen. After 30 minutes we went back to the street with total chaos, cops and ambulances shutting everything down and a systematic closure of casinos closely. We were told to leave if able, and not to linger but more and more people gathered to see what was going on.

I thought this shit wouldn't hit Vegas but I am first hand proof that's it's here, in Sin City with evil Islam at its roots! This bitch was crazy and was screaming with both windows down! I didn't notice a kid in the car but after reading the news that a toddler was in there it makes me sick!





http://tinyurl.com/hsa9rfr


*'on the internet' disclaimer

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 21, 2015 01:40 PM (fWAjv)

431 Gonna go out on a limb and guess that it was not her father's Oldsmobile...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 21, 2015 01:40 PM (NeFrd)

432 I thought this shit wouldn't hit Vegas but I am first hand proof that's it's here, in Sin City with evil Islam at its roots! This bitch was crazy and was screaming with both windows down! I didn't notice a kid in the car but after reading the news that a toddler was in there it makes me sick!

Not believing that....

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 01:41 PM (/dSsq)

433 She was singing, "This is not your father's Oldsmobile......".

Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 01:41 PM (Fmupd)

434 And it needs that classic performance that Jon brought to the last race.

Posted by: Papist Bograt at December 21, 2015 01:35 PM


I'm thinking he'd be first in line for the coveted Tepid air endorsement. Unless T-Paw decides to run.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 21, 2015 01:41 PM (z/vax)

435 Is the Affluenza Kid still on the rung?Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 01:30 PM (iQIUe)

Yes! Cuz I'm climbing the Stairway to Heaven!

Posted by: Led Affluenzeppelin at December 21, 2015 01:41 PM (9vLZK)

436 nd it needs that classic performance that Jon brought to the last race.

Posted by: Papist Bograt at December 21, 2015 01:35 PM

I'm thinking he'd be first in line for the coveted Tepid air endorsement. Unless T-Paw decides to run.
Posted by: MrScribbler

Wait one....wasn't this the guy with a couple of hot daughters?

Posted by: Papist Bograt at December 21, 2015 01:42 PM (326rv)

437 Man, this thread is epic.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:42 PM (g3IQs)

438 Love the picture! But one kid accidentally roughhousing and bashing into the tree and it will be a not-so-silent night.

Posted by: LizLem at December 21, 2015 01:42 PM (hvf9s)

439 "allahu akbar!"

ah, a freedom fighter then

Posted by: Feh at December 21, 2015 01:42 PM (2Wmrt)

440 French Oriental

"Le Geisha". Press messed it up.


No, no, no. It was La Geisha because she was from the Spanish part of China.

Don't they know anything? Sheesh...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 21, 2015 01:42 PM (LUgeY)

441 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 21, 2015 01:40 PM (fWAjv)

Going to have to get more then some rando on the internet saying it...

I find it a little hard to believe that she was driving at 45 mph and he could hear he clearly say "allahu akbar" not only once but twice.

Could happen I suppose, but...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:43 PM (AkOaV)

442 Olds was basically a Chevy. Which is basically a Buick which is basically a Pontiac. They were all the same fucking cars just with different badges. Which is why Pontiac and Olds are no longer around, there was no need.
If you want a dealer to work on the car take it to a Chevy dealer, it's as good as an Olds dealer.

Although why anyone would take a 20 year old car to a dealer for service.....mystery.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:43 PM (0LHZx)

443 >>> Seriously, is there any item that doesn't have a SW tie-in right now?

These are not the questions you are looking for...

Posted by: Disney and Lucasfilm, attempting jedi mind tick so you buy more BB-8 crap at December 21, 2015 01:43 PM (hvf9s)

444 Wait one....wasn't this the guy with a couple of hot daughters?

Posted by: Papist Bograt at December 21, 2015 01:42 PM


Well, yeah.

Unfortunately, they're not the ones looking for votes.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 21, 2015 01:44 PM (z/vax)

445 Sudden Jihadette syndrome (tm).

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 01:44 PM (7v/r5)

446 Las Vegas Police Capt. Brett Zimmerman said that while terrorism has been ruled out, but that the crash appears to be intentional.

http://tinyurl.com/olrh75x

Gee. That was quick.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 21, 2015 01:44 PM (8ZskC)

447 Maybe she had a date with a john?

Posted by: opinion at December 21, 2015 01:44 PM (HSAmh)

448 can someone put me some knowledge about why geisha's are white as porcelain? what is up with that?

Posted by: Feh at December 21, 2015 01:44 PM (2Wmrt)

449 Fortunately, I was able to leap into the car and wrest the steering wheel away from the driver.

Posted by: Brian Williams, Back in Charge at December 21, 2015 01:44 PM (3GAnN)

450 448 can someone put me some knowledge about why geisha's are white as porcelain? what is up with that?

Make-up...

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 01:44 PM (/dSsq)

451 *peeks back in*

Auto-puns, more than meets the eye or ear...

*wanders back out*

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/selection-du-weekend-171-26.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 01:44 PM (nGyiN)

452 Uhh... again, if natural born means the opposite of naturalized (as everyone claimed when Obamas birth situation was brought up) then Cruz is just as eligible as Obama.

If natural born means "born to two US citizen parents on US soil" then Van Buren, McCain, Obama, and Cruz (and probably others who have been or have run for president) are/were ineligible.

#############

Van Buren was born in the US to parents who were US citizens (they were in the American colony before it became an Independent nation) so not sure how he could be considered ineligible.

He was the first President not born in the US while it was still a British colony.

Without question, the Founders would have considered Cruz ineligible.

What that means today in a post-Constitutional world is up for debate, but he'll lose votes for it. How many people like the idea of a Canadian-born President?

Trump will probably nuke Cruz with it eventually

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 01:45 PM (BTKKR)

453 "make-up"

I'm shocked

Posted by: Feh at December 21, 2015 01:45 PM (2Wmrt)

454 Las Vegas Police Capt. Brett Zimmerman said that while terrorism has been ruled out, but that the crash appears to be intentional.

http://tinyurl.com/olrh75x

Gee. That was quick.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

There has been a rush to judgement here!!!

Posted by: The "Not Guilty" Project at December 21, 2015 01:46 PM (326rv)

455 Without question, the Founders would have considered Cruz ineligible.

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 01:45 PM (BTKKR)

_______

Without question you don't understand the meaning of natural born citizen.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 21, 2015 01:46 PM (0LHZx)

456 "
can someone put me some knowledge about why geisha's are white as porcelain? what is up with that?"


It's just face-paint. Theatrics. Not a racial thing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:47 PM (g3IQs)

457 Romney was born in Mexico.

Posted by: opinion at December 21, 2015 01:47 PM (HSAmh)

458 454 Las Vegas Police Capt. Brett Zimmerman said that while terrorism has been ruled out, but that the crash appears to be intentional.


Running down People on purpose most certainly is terrorism....

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 01:47 PM (/dSsq)

459 Trump will probably nuke Cruz with it eventually
Posted by: Tobasco

Yeah, cause that mattered oh-so-fucking much eight years ago.

Any other Christian Concerns we should know about?

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 21, 2015 01:48 PM (326rv)

460 Maybe she was just pissed that Miss Colombia had her title taken away.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 21, 2015 01:49 PM (8ZskC)

461 Caitlyn, I know you're watching, so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Huh? Just waitin for my sexual oncologist to lop off my man-tumor.

Maleness is the disease. I am the cure. Pink fluffy tutus and breasts.

Posted by: Caitlyn Cobretti at December 21, 2015 01:49 PM (9vLZK)

462 "*peeks back in*"


This is a wild one.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:49 PM (g3IQs)

463 Clearly, the crazy broad just got out of the new Star Wars and was enraged that her favorite character Admiral Ackbar got but a brief cameo.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 21, 2015 01:49 PM (KGelR)

464 >>> Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman, who unsuccessfully sought the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, says he's getting "a lot" of encouragement to launch another White House bid from Republicans concerned about the prospect of Donald Trump as the 2016 GOP nominee. This time, to run as an independent.

The Utah GOPe throwing Olene Walker (who passed away recently, RIP) under the bus to get Huntsman elected gov instead, is the reason I switched from Repub to Indepenent. Can't stand the man, or the Utah GOPe. May Santa bring them all coal this year.

And yes his daughters may be cute but they are as crazy as pop-pop.

Posted by: LizLem at December 21, 2015 01:49 PM (hvf9s)

465 Cops say she was living in her car for a week before this happened. Also, she had petitioned in October to have her name changed to Paris Paradise Morton. Umm, "Paris Paradise"?

Cops further say she was calm and stoic during her interview. Has told them her motive but they won't share with us because, the narrative, only that she doesn't appear to regret what she did.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:50 PM (8/DeP)

466 How many people like the idea of a Canadian-born President?
_______________________________

If it's Stephen Harper vs. Barack Obama, I am going with Harper.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 21, 2015 01:50 PM (YqcVw)

467 If this was going to be my last act of defiance against "the man" I would have at least rented a high-end car like a Mercedes convertible.

Posted by: Soona at December 21, 2015 01:50 PM (Fmupd)

468
Cops further say she was calm and stoic during her interview. Has told them her motive but they won't share with us because, the narrative, only that she doesn't appear to regret what she did.

So a tea-party trump follower....

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 01:50 PM (/dSsq)

469 And yes his daughters may be cute but they are as crazy as pop-pop.
Posted by: LizLem

So....hawt and crazy? Go on.......

Posted by: The Moron horde at December 21, 2015 01:51 PM (326rv)

470 So I'll just put up some vid of the swedish dah-who-dorray: http://youtu.be/uUVeIaWfvok



Posted by: Perfectly serious at December 21, 2015 01:33 PM (3fTXW)
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Ha! Love it!

Posted by: grammie winger, O Come Emmanuel at December 21, 2015 01:51 PM (dFi94)

471 Remember: What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!

~ Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce, DHS, FBI, Ministry of Trufe

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 21, 2015 01:51 PM (j/0iw)

472 "Caitlyn Cobrett"


Not you. The other "Caitlyin"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:51 PM (g3IQs)

473 465 Cops say she was living in her car for a week before this happened. Also, she had petitioned in October to have her name changed to Paris Paradise Morton. Umm, "Paris Paradise"?



Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:50 PM (8/DeP)


Because when you are living in your car THAT is what's important.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 21, 2015 01:53 PM (fWAjv)

474 Next time I hear some lefty yapping about how white Europeans destroyed the wonderful Native American civilization I'm going to tell them America was just undergoing demographic changes and the Indians should have welcomed it and embraced diversity.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at December 21, 2015 01:53 PM (1BQGO)

475 Has the Kaisch superpac destroyed Trump yet? It's been a month already.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Happy Hysteria-days from teh Outrage Outlet! at December 21, 2015 01:54 PM (hLRSq)

476 Clearly, she drove into the crowd of people because of the lack of federal investment in infrastructure.

Those roads in Vegas need federal dollars to make them safe.

Why is Obama the only one who gets it?



Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 21, 2015 01:54 PM (YqcVw)

477 In her defense, it is pretty hard not to murder with all this privilege and patriarchy everywhere. Could just be the unbearable brightness of whiteness.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 01:54 PM (8/DeP)

478 I had a long deep conversation with Leonardo DiCaprio and I convinced him to convert to Islam!

Posted by: CAIR Bear at December 21, 2015 01:54 PM (9vLZK)

479 >>> Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 01:44 PM (nGyiN)

I have a sudden urge to watch Dumb & Dumber now, hah...

Watched White Christmas and Christmas Vacation this weekend while making presents. And I was a bad Mormon and went to Star Wars last night. Very movie filled weekend!

Posted by: LizLem at December 21, 2015 01:55 PM (hvf9s)

480 >>Thanks. The Brits had the name before American press. Ever notice that happens a lot?

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 21, 2015 12:51 PM (7v/r5)

They don't have to clear every story with the Ministry of Truth first.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 01:55 PM (oKE6c)

481 473 465 Cops say she was living in her car for a week before this happened. Also, she had petitioned in October to have her name changed to Paris Paradise Morton. Umm, "Paris Paradise"?


Stage name. Pole #3.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2015 01:55 PM (Q1QrS)

482 Nood, Ace awake.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:56 PM (KI3QM)

483 I'm pretty sure that sidewalk is a designated "No Auto" zone.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 21, 2015 01:56 PM (NeFrd)

484 Ace. Nood.


*Sighs*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:56 PM (g3IQs)

485 Sorry, I just got back from the ladies room.

Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Hillary at December 21, 2015 01:57 PM (YqcVw)

486
"Be raped by 10 ISIS men and you are converted to Islam."

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 01:57 PM (iQIUe)

487 Cops say she was living in her car for a week before this happened. Also, she had petitioned in October to have her name changed to Paris Paradise Morton

She'll hear from my lawyer about this.

Posted by: Paris Paradise Lefkowitz at December 21, 2015 01:57 PM (8ZskC)

488 Cops further say she was calm and stoic during her interview. Has told them her motive but they won't share with us because, the narrative, only that she doesn't appear to regret what she did.


Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 01:50 PM (/dSsq)



Uh oh. I discounted the ROP references above, but now ... I'm not so sure.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 21, 2015 01:57 PM (oKE6c)

489 ...Huntsman... This time, to run as an independent.

Ah, the "Republicans for Hillary" ticket.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Cruz/Bridenstein 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:57 PM (O+0DS)

490 Ace is awake.

Posted by: HH at December 21, 2015 01:58 PM (DrCtv)

491 Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 01:45 PM (BTKKR)

His father was born a subject of the netherlands, in a formerly dutch colony in what was formerly known as new netherlands. His mother, IIRC, was actually born in the netherlands.

It was a thing at the time... he was claimed by some to be ineligible.

It was decided that Van Buren was a US citizen regardless.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 21, 2015 01:58 PM (AkOaV)

492 Cops further say she was calm and stoic during her interview. Has told them her motive but they won't share with us because, the narrative, only that she doesn't appear to regret what she did.

Posted by: donna at December 21, 2015 01:50 PM (/dSsq)



Goddamnit! I just told the rubes Americans that everything was fine, there were no threats, and some goddamned free-lancer has to go and fuck it up! Didn't she get the memo? Ixnay on the erroristay for a while. Got it?

Posted by: Barry al-Djakarti at December 21, 2015 01:59 PM (oKE6c)

493 Next time I hear some lefty yapping about how white Europeans destroyed the wonderful Native American civilization I'm going to tell them America was just undergoing demographic changes and the Indians should have welcomed it and embraced diversity.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at December 21, 2015 01:53 PM (1BQGO)

Heh. Too bad La Raza did not exist when the Spanish invaded! Would have had better PR in today's history books.

Conquistador: Lopping off our enemies' heads with swords is part of our culture, how dare you question our cultural traditions!

Posted by: LizLem at December 21, 2015 01:59 PM (hvf9s)

494 Next time I hear some lefty yapping about how white Europeans destroyed the wonderful Native American civilization I'm going to tell them America was just undergoing demographic changes and the Indians should have welcomed it and embraced diversity.Posted by: Hand of Count Petof


^^^^^^^^^^Genius


We don't want to create any backlash! Put down those bows.

You didn't distill that firewater. Remember the crusades against the Lakotas. Get off you Elizabeth Warren.

Posted by: Chief CrazyKetchupGiggolo at December 21, 2015 02:02 PM (9vLZK)

495 True story: Once when I was down on my luck and living in a 1970 El Camino I used my last $75 dollars petitioning to have my name changed to Randy Roman Morton.

When things still didn't turn around for me I naturally thought "mass murder." Turns out I was arrested when my Camino ran out of gas fifteen feet from the curb and I just kind of rolled into the back of a cop car with a UNLV sticker. After that I traded sex for Marlboros in the big house until I could get into law school.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 21, 2015 02:04 PM (8/DeP)

496 "...no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck," Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio."

I noticed the word "bargain" also. Presumably he meant "bargain" in the sense that the rules had been changed on them, that the deal they thought they had made in good faith was no longer operative.

But being a statement from Obama, my first reaction was that he felt that they we are all supposed to be good 'workers' in the service of the State upon the basis of 'from each according to his ability, to each according to their need'; and that these men somehow were getting more than 'their fair share' and weren't spreading the wealth around enough.

Posted by: RM at December 21, 2015 02:07 PM (U3LtS)

497 His father was born a subject of the netherlands, in a formerly dutch colony in what was formerly known as new netherlands. His mother, IIRC, was actually born in the netherlands.

It was a thing at the time... he was claimed by some to be ineligible.

It was decided that Van Buren was a US citizen regardless.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes


Who cares if "somebody claimed" this, it's a stupid case to be made which is why it never went anywhere.

Van Buren had Two parents that were American citizens and he was also born in America , he's a natural born citizen, case closed.

The Constitution doesn't say their parents have to be born on American soil. It would have actually been impossible for his parents to have been born in the United States since it didn't exist yet, which is why the Constitution put that provision in there for people that were there before America became an independent nation.

Cruz is a much different story. Not born in the US and a dual citizen.

Posted by: Tobasco at December 21, 2015 02:09 PM (BTKKR)

498 Ref # 416 -- Harry Paratestes 12/21/15, 01:37 PM (AkOaV)
"Again, I'm far from convinced it was terrorism by the way. Could have just as likely been a whackadoodle. {...} "
= = = = = =
Well, see, if you're a Muzzlim you have The Perfect Example right there in Mohammed. *HE* heard voices, y'know (and told his wife he was afraid he was going crazy or being tempted by demons.)

So Lakeisha-Paris Paradise hears voices and knows in her heart that the "right thing to do" is Slay Infidels. Yeah, she's crazy as a bedbug. But crazy/ violent/ low-impulse-control people are RIGHT AT HOME in Islam. Like bees to flowers ... they are drawn to the deeply-disordered "religion" invented by a deeply-disordered "prophet" who used his "divine revelations" to get others to provide him with women and treasure and vengeance against those he perceived as enemies.

Sweet gig, if you're crazy enough...

Posted by: Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah at December 21, 2015 03:53 PM (cuOq3)

499 I suspect this painting is called "Silent Night" because this is the family's first Christmas without their father. His memory is in the corner of their minds like the bust in the corner of the picture, but they have Christmas joy all the same.

Posted by: My Sisters' Brother at December 21, 2015 04:44 PM (gNDl5)

500
"Star Wars" is pureschlock for the masses. They suck it down like they voted forObama. Feck 'em all!

Posted by: uroquoit at December 21, 2015 07:50 PM (l7KgR)

501 No joke, candles on Christmas trees were a major source of house fires, which is why electric tree lights became instantly popular.

Between the two kids at our front, with their backs to us, you can see one present: an unwrapped mini-tower. Cheap parents should have sprung for a monitor, too.

Posted by: Adjoran at December 22, 2015 08:56 AM (QIQ6j)

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