Overnight Open Thread (11-12-2015)

Quote of the Day I

We often read nowadays of the valor or audacity with which some rebel attacks a hoary tyranny or an antiquated superstition.  There is not really any courage at all in attacking hoary or antiquated things, any more than in offering to fight one's grandmother.  The really courageous man is he who defies tyrannies young as the morning and superstitions fresh as the first flowers.

-- G.K. Chesterton, What's Wrong with the World, 1910

Quote of the Day II

As to the court case - Mann vs Steyn - Robert Tracinski notes en passant here that we're now in the fourth year at the District of Columbia Superior Court. I voluntarily submitted to their jurisdiction (I don't live or work in the District of Columbia, and nor does Mann) because I naively assumed they had the minimal competence to adjudicate a 270-word blog post in under half a decade. They don't. It's somewhat frustrating to be trapped in a choked toilet of a "justice" system where everything is actionable but there's never any action.

-- Mark Steyn

Quote of the Day III

The society which scorns excellence in plumbing as a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy: neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water.

-- John Gardner

Glenn Reynolds: It's Time to Repeal the 26th Amendment And Raise The Voting Age to 25

It's bad enough to have to treat college students like children. But it's intolerable to be governed by spoiled children. People who can't discuss Halloween costumes rationally don't deserve to play a role in running a great nation.

Trigger Warning Ahead! Trigger Warning Ahead! Trigger Warning Ahead!

Okay you have all been legally warned....

The Racist Poop Swastika of DOOM Finally Captured on Film!

The scene of the crime - an ordinary unsuspecting unisex bathroom on a day just like any other...

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The lab in which this horror was created and the detritus from its unholy birthing...

poopstika2

Its trail of destruction and defilement...

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OMG THE ABHOMINATION ITSELF AYYYY!!!!!!

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BURN IT DOWN BURN IT ALL DOWN!!!!!!!!!

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So Why Were Black Students - But Not Jewish Students - Up In Arms Over the Poopstika?

Why No One Believes the 'Racial' Incidents on College Campuses Are Real

In order to combat the supposed scourge of "structural racism," it seems that much of it has to be invented. A grossly racist flyer circulated on the campus of Ohio's Oberlin College in 2013 sparked massive campus-wide protests and resulted in cancelled classes. The pamphlet repeatedly used anti-gay, anti-Jewish, and anti-black slurs, and demanded that all these undesirables be locked in "cages," but it turned out to be the work of two liberal activists. One of the hoaxers was a member of the group "White Allies Against Structural Racism." Worse still, the campus administrators knew that this incident was a hoax even as the classes for which their students were paying exorbitant fees to attend were being cancelled.

In 2012, a University of Wisconsin, Parkside student found herself on a racist "hit list" that included the names of a number of African-American students targeted for violence. That list appeared several days after two nooses made out of rubber bands appeared on campus. The incidents exploded in the news and became the focus of an investigation by the Kenosha County District Attorney's office, but that investigation revealed that this student who originally exposed the plot was behind the whole affair. What gave her away was the fact that the only name on the "hit list" spelled correctly was her own.

The student activists on Vassar College's Orwellian-named "Bias Incident Response Team" found themselves busy indeed in November of 2013. They were supposedly combating an epidemic of hateful and insensitive messages directed toward blacks, women, and the transgendered scrawled and spray-painted on student residencies. Guess what? The perpetrators of this act of bias were none other than the members of the anti-bigotry brigade themselves.

Campus Kangaroo Court Convicts Conservative Professor

Academia delenda est.

The VICE Guide To Getting Out of Your Student Loan Debts

Short version: You can't.

How Many Democrats Are Totalitarians?

Well at least 27%.

What If Obama Has a Strategy in the Middle East, and It's Working

And just to continue the bashing...Merit Badges for Millennials

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The Single Best Thing You Can Do For Your Child...

Just might be having them wait an extra year before starting school.

A new study on the mental health effects of kindergarten enrollment ages found strong evidence that a one-year delay dramatically improves a child's self-regulation abilities even into later childhood.

According to the study co-authored by Stanford Graduate School of Education Professor Thomas Dee, children who started kindergarten a year later showed significantly lower levels of inattention and hyperactivity, which are jointly considered a key indicator of self regulation. The beneficial result was found to persist even at age 11.

"We found that delaying kindergarten for one year reduced inattention and hyperactivity by 73 percent for an average child at age 11," Dee said, "and it virtually eliminated the probability that an average child at that age would have an 'abnormal,' or higher-than-normal rating for the inattentive-hyperactive behavioral measure."

The study, aptly titled, "The Gift of Time? School Starting Age and Mental Health," was published Oct. 5, by the National Bureau of Economic Research. A version of the article is also available here as a working paper from the Stanford Center for Education Policy Analysis at the GSE.

The Average Gun Owner Now Owns 8 Firearms

Here's a number to be proud of. The Washington Post is reporting that according to Wonkblog, the average number of firearms in a "typical gun-owning household" has increased to 8.1 firearms. This is a  nearly two-fold increase from data in 1994 which reported the typical household had 4.2 guns.

Which means they now have an 'arsenal' in their 'compound'.

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Holy Shit - They're Buying It!!! So All You Big Mouthed I-Gotta-Correct-Everything Assholes Just Keep Your Damn Pieholes Shut!

It's Going to Be Okay Explained the Co-Pilot to the Scared Young Woman...

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plane2

plane3

And all of you know the name of the co-pilot even if you don't know that you know.

Hey There Baby...Are You Feeling Hawt For a Little Math Action?

Well so are all the other hot single variables at SolveX4U.com.

Yahoo group. That is all.

Come on be a smartie and join the yahoo group party! For the children. Why do you hate children? Are you a micro-aggressing counter-revolutionary saboteur?

And my lo-fi Twitter spew.

Tonight's post brought to you by wrangling the Queen's corgis:

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Notice: Posted by permission of WeHeartMillenials LLC, a division of AceMedia Inc. Please send juicy gossip and offerings to maetenloch at gmail. Otherwise send your prayers to Joe Pesci who can probably get things done. Note that the mannequins are for display only. Do not micro-aggress happy-fun ball. This is a safe place!

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:05 PM




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1 Good evening!

Posted by: speedster1 at November 12, 2015 11:06 PM (1brdf)

2 It's the ONT!

Thanks Maet

Posted by: Bete says it is going to burn, why bother putting it off? at November 12, 2015 11:07 PM (Ojki1)

3 I guess someone already fetched the corgies!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2015 11:08 PM (kGczc)

4 Woot woot ONT

Maet have a great weekend. Lots 'o content to peruse thru

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 12, 2015 11:09 PM (Omh3b)

5 Howdy, y'all....

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2015 11:10 PM (EzgxV)

6 Howdy all.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 12, 2015 11:10 PM (Wo9OY)

7 Zup....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:11 PM (gP0x8)

8 I have a new-found respect for Gene Roddenberry!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2015 11:12 PM (kGczc)

9 So did the woman passenger that gene roddenberry sat down next to survive?

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at November 12, 2015 11:12 PM (3anni)

10 That's too many corgis ugh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 12, 2015 11:13 PM (09Lhy)

11 Maet- nice, as always.


Corgi wrangling is a thing?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon (check out my book) at November 12, 2015 11:13 PM (NeFrd)

12 Didnt know that about Roddenberry.

I could see a career as a royal corgi wrangler. Don't noneed of you cranks get no ideas, right?

Posted by: The Welding Philosopher at November 12, 2015 11:13 PM (o+SC1)

13 People who can't discuss Halloween costumes rationally don't deserve to play a role in running a great nation.

heh

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at November 12, 2015 11:13 PM (Dwehj)

14 Riccardo happy now?

How's it going?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 12, 2015 11:14 PM (gmP76)

15 8

*counts*


Okay, eight. I guess I need to bump my game.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:14 PM (gP0x8)

16 Shit. Good thing they didn't step in it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 12, 2015 11:14 PM (09Lhy)

17 Which one of those Corgis contains Britain's nuclear codes?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon (check out my book) at November 12, 2015 11:15 PM (NeFrd)

18 so many things that shan't be discussed for reasons.

poop

Vice

The Tumbldown of Democrats calling for denier prosecution

Avg firearms - doesn't discuss a single boating accident

Cosmo - I didn't need to see that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 12, 2015 11:16 PM (rSTkb)

19 "How's it going?"


Crap, what'd I miss?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:16 PM (gP0x8)

20 We could use a good corgi wrangler here


So... how many merit badges have you earned, millennials?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:16 PM (39g3+)

21 Happy fun ball is a pussy that needs a safe space.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 12, 2015 11:16 PM (yJmb/)

22 I have a lot fewer than eight firearms. That means that someone out there in the wilderness has more than eight, many more than eight.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at November 12, 2015 11:16 PM (3anni)

23 So did the woman passenger that gene roddenberry sat down next to survive?
No. They ate her just before starting off on the brief hike that got them to the village with the radio.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2015 11:17 PM (xodPA)

24 Things were comparatively calmer at Mizzou today, but we did have an incident in the laughably-described "free-speech zone" that is Speakers' Circle. A group called the Revolutionary Communist Party (no really) got in an argument with a preacher holding a placard saying we should obey authority and submit to law and order, and just as I was passing by the Circle, one of the commies decked the preacher. It would have gotten a lot worse, but his comrades dragged him away.

Of course he should be arrested for assault, but he won't be. If anyone gets thrown in the slammer, it'll be the preacher for his "hurtful speech."

Posted by: T at November 12, 2015 11:17 PM (NctcF)

25 The Queen flies all her dogs on a single plane?

Piker. Real royalty would use a separate plane for each pooch.

Posted by: SCOAMF and Mooch at November 12, 2015 11:17 PM (REdlt)

26 That's nasty. Some filthy pig shat on himself and spread it around like a fucking retarded dog.

Bad doggie! Bad, bad doggie!

Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2015 11:17 PM (3tjn4)

27 I am not seeing the swastika...Looks like a streak of poop to me. Either those kids don't know what a swastika looks like or I don't.

Posted by: pj at November 12, 2015 11:17 PM (cHuNI)

28 So, the plane is limping along on one engine, the pilot is struggling to control the descent and Gene Roddenberry leaves the cockpit to go chat some woman in coach? Hmmmmm...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon (check out my book) at November 12, 2015 11:17 PM (NeFrd)

29 "Which one of those Corgis contains Britain's nuclear codes?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon"

Each one keeps a small part of the code separate from the others. You have to get them to line up in the correct order to find out the whole code.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 12, 2015 11:17 PM (Wo9OY)

30 Seems to me that Corgi-wrangling should be assigned to midgets.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2015 11:17 PM (0yhH4)

31 Oh wait.


I forgot about Mable and Eunice and Trixy and Thumper and Bambi.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:18 PM (gP0x8)

32 Which one of those Corgis contains Britain's nuclear codes?
I could tell you but then I'd have to shed all over you.

Posted by: Corgi 007 at November 12, 2015 11:18 PM (xodPA)

33 Poop Stika... Methinks somebody is upset that the toilet seat was left down and got peed on.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2015 11:18 PM (T78UI)

34 I naively assumed they had the minimal competence to adjudicate a 270-word blog post in under half a decade. They don't. It's somewhat frustrating to be trapped in a choked toilet of a "justice" system where everything is actionable but there's never any action.

Evidently Mark Steyn has decided that annoying the judges in his case can't make matters any worse or slow than they already are.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:18 PM (39g3+)

35 CT

Left this answer in the willowed thread.

Tries to fill in by teaching welding at the local community college,

but because he doesn't have a degree, they won't hire him on and pay him

as a full time teacher, just a once-a-week "assistant" that does all

the real teaching.


Ah regulation. This is a fight I had
with the ignorant about Catholic Schools. They are better in part
BECAUSE they can hire the uncredentialed Case in point- my daughters are
taught science by 2 women with doctorates in SCIENCE not Ed. One has
lots of experience in research chemistry.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at November 12, 2015 11:19 PM (ZY2zO)

36 You missed nothing RK.
You seemed miffed in last thread that ONT wasn't up

Deer opener a week from Saturday. And no snow yet Yay!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 12, 2015 11:19 PM (8PcKC)

37 Force Children to Call a Girl a Boy or GET FIRED

A daycare center in Houston, Texas, a city where an ordinance that would let men use women's bathrooms, has fired two day care workers who refused to lie or to force other children to lie about a six-year old girl whose two male parents insisted be called a little boy.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10368

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2015 11:19 PM (vBeA5)

38 Well, I just wondered, since the wranglers are carrying them like a football.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon (check out my book) at November 12, 2015 11:19 PM (NeFrd)

39 "Happy fun ball is a pussy that needs a safe space."

Say what you may, but, I like Buzzion's style.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:19 PM (gP0x8)

40 Each one keeps a small part of the code separate from the others. You have to get them to line up in the correct order to find out the whole code.

And they bark, each bark a note that indicates a number.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:19 PM (39g3+)

41 I think Queen Lizzy will be still be going after Big Ears bites the dust. She's already reigned longer than Victoria.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 12, 2015 11:19 PM (dvuhZ)

42 that poop thing looks like muzzie artwork to me.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2015 11:20 PM (ucDmr)

43 So, the plane is limping along on one engine, the pilot is struggling to control the descent and Gene Roddenberry leaves the cockpit to go chat some woman in coach? Hmmmmm...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon (check out my book) at November 12, 2015 11:17 PM (NeFrd)


I would expect the pilot in command told him to do it, hoping that at least one crew member might survive the crash, and care for the other survivors.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2015 11:21 PM (0yhH4)

44 Good ONT Maet, thanks.

Infants play with their poop. And so do millennials apparently, but I repeat myself.

Good night horde. What a depressing day, what a stupid time to be alive, and what a stupid and vicious generation.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. (brandisher of ampersands) at November 12, 2015 11:21 PM (P8951)

45 Poop smear is retarded. . .sir. Real retarded. Really.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at November 12, 2015 11:21 PM (3anni)

46 "You missed nothing RK.
You seemed miffed in last thread that ONT wasn't up "


Don't never fret nothing. I ain't worried about a thing.


How's MH?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:21 PM (gP0x8)

47 Squatstika...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon (check out my book) at November 12, 2015 11:21 PM (NeFrd)

48 That's a half assed swastika.

Posted by: Holmes at November 12, 2015 11:22 PM (mcm0N)

49 Corgis, being herding dogs by breeding and instinct, would the Alpha simply herd the others into ....well....a herd?

Or would they all go Wolf, and be a Pack, and not a Herd.

A pack of Corgis. I guess that's the multiple of Moron, after all?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 12, 2015 11:22 PM (McRlu)

50 The burning engine changes positions in that story.

Weird that co-pilots were allowed to wander around the cabin during an emergency. Shouldn't he have helped fly the plane?

Posted by: meh at November 12, 2015 11:22 PM (X1dxr)

51 Re above about planes for royals doggies:

Mark Steyn has repeatedly made the point that POTUS is given more pomp and circumstance as a matter of routine than all of European royalty put together. QE II would be ashamed to spend the money Obama routinely spends on his jaunts about the world.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 12, 2015 11:23 PM (dvuhZ)

52 I think Queen Lizzy will be still be going after Big Ears bites the dust.

I'm pretty sure she's down to drinking the blood of infants to stay alive long enough that Charles never, ever gets the throne.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:23 PM (39g3+)

53 that poop thing looks like muzzie artwork to me.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2015 11:20 PM (ucDmr)


yeah, looks like it was drawn left-handed

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2015 11:23 PM (0yhH4)

54 Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2015 11:19 PM (vBeA5)



World's going mad and it's getting worse every day.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at November 12, 2015 11:23 PM (HalrA)

55 Looks to me like some hipster douchebag was trying to scrawl "Taco Bell" with his own doody right before the gorditas really kicked in.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at November 12, 2015 11:24 PM (Dwehj)

56 Poop observations

I learned not to spread it on walls before I got to grade school. Somewhere along the line the village didn't potty train this person.

Poop spreader has a future at the EPA or an artist with NEA grants

The administration and the students are all children. There are no adults on that campus.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 12, 2015 11:24 PM (7uC+4)

57 Gil Favor and Rowdy Yates : Corgi wranglers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 12, 2015 11:24 PM (FkBIv)

58 that poop thing looks like muzzie artwork to me.

Look, there was no paper so I followed the Koran, then I had to wipe my left hand off somewhere!

Posted by: Muhammad Muhammad Bin Muhammad at November 12, 2015 11:24 PM (39g3+)

59 2 Which one of those Corgis contains Britain's nuclear codes?

*****

The fat one.

Posted by: Holmes at November 12, 2015 11:24 PM (mcm0N)

60 "I would expect the pilot in command told him to do it, hoping that at least one crew member might survive the crash, and care for the other survivors."


So we all go home. Go to bed. Come back tomorrow and hope everything sorted itself out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:25 PM (gP0x8)

61 52 I think Queen Lizzy will be still be going after Big Ears bites the dust.

I'm pretty sure she's down to drinking the blood of infants to stay alive long enough that Charles never, ever gets the throne.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:23 PM (39g3+)


It's a sad day indeed when the Queen of England can't arrange a simple polo accident...

Posted by: Maetenloch at November 12, 2015 11:25 PM (pAlYe)

62 Interesting the plane crash story was told in pictures. That required a textual explanation to explain what the pictures represented.

Kind of like MS Windows that has cute little icons, and a pop up text box you get when you put the mouse cursor on the cute little icon to explain what the icon is intended to represent.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at November 12, 2015 11:25 PM (3anni)

63 Mark Steyn has repeatedly made the point that POTUS
is given more pomp and circumstance as a matter of routine than all of
European royalty put together. QE II would be ashamed to spend the money
Obama routinely spends on his jaunts about the world.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 12, 2015 11:23 PM (dvuhZ)


Negro privilege. The more worthless you are, the more deference you're owed.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 12, 2015 11:25 PM (oKE6c)

64 You poop in the hallway and nobody cares, but if you try to draw on the walls, everybody loses their minds!

Posted by: EPA worker at November 12, 2015 11:25 PM (39g3+)

65 Last year someone broke into the restroom at our community swimming pool and smeared crap all over the place. We think it was some teenagers that had gotten thrown out of the pool previously because they didn't live here and weren't supposed to be using the pool. Shoulda DNA tested 'em...

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 12, 2015 11:25 PM (Wo9OY)

66 Weird that co-pilots were allowed to wander around the cabin during an emergency. Shouldn't he have helped fly the plane?

Yes.

Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at November 12, 2015 11:25 PM (Dwehj)

67 It's a sad day indeed when the Queen of England can't arrange a simple polo accident...

Dozens would be heartbroken!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:26 PM (39g3+)

68 53: my point exactly. idjits can't even get it right. resembles nothing but shit smeared all over. i feel threatened.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2015 11:26 PM (ucDmr)

69 Anybody here have an idea what the recovery time for a broken ankle is? Are you in a boot the whole time?

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 12, 2015 11:26 PM (5q6rm)

70 that poop thing looks like muzzie artwork to me.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2015 11:20 PM (ucDmr)


yeah, looks like it was drawn left-handed
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Also, there was poop on the door handle, meaning the perp didn't wash his/her/xer hands. Muzzies don't wash their hands afterwards either.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 12, 2015 11:26 PM (zn5Cm)

71 Okay, eight. I guess I need to bump my game.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:14 PM (gP0x

Same. Air rifle didn't count.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2015 11:26 PM (T78UI)

72 Any of you guys see the Bills-Jets game?

They have some new thing they're doing on Thursdays, called "NFL Nike Color Rush Campaign" (which I can find almost nothing about). Apparently, it some cockamamy idea that both teams will be clad in solid colors, and this is supposed to be cosmic somehow, or something.

It looked, well, I'm not sure in we can say it in here. Probably can; just not sure. Basically, with the green vs red Christmas colors, they look like Santa's elves. It's embarrassing.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2015 11:26 PM (/q6+P)

73 "Gil Favor and Rowdy Yates : Corgi wranglers."


Word.


Gil will talk your ass out of stupid shit. Rowdy will finish the job.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:27 PM (gP0x8)

74 Seriously, as soon as tickets to Mars become available, I'm done with this fucking planet.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at November 12, 2015 11:27 PM (HalrA)

75 Interesting the plane crash story was told in pictures. That required a textual explanation to explain what the pictures represented.

Kind of like MS Windows that has cute little icons, and a pop up text box you get when you put the mouse cursor on the cute little icon to explain what the icon is intended to represent.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at November 12, 2015 11:25 PM (3anni)


Yes, and yes. That whole Oatmeal story reads like the work of an ill-educated millennial. Interesting story, but really dumbed down.


And the Windows icons have to have explanatory text because they are often obscure as Hell.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2015 11:28 PM (0yhH4)

76 The old girl took care of Diana pretty slick, didn't she? Chuck is blood, can't off him, I guess. Hell, I think I saw a poll where the majority wants Chuck to step down and let William and Kate have it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 12, 2015 11:29 PM (dvuhZ)

77 Seriously, as soon as tickets to Mars become available, I'm done with this fucking planet.

Could you please mail the flag back after you get settled in?

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at November 12, 2015 11:29 PM (Dwehj)

78 It's a sad day indeed when the Queen of England can't arrange a simple polo accident...

Posted by: Maetenloch at November 12, 2015 11:25 PM (pAlYe)


Word.

Posted by: Lyndon LaRouche at November 12, 2015 11:29 PM (4ErVI)

79 @28 and Gene Roddenberry leaves the cockpit to go chat some woman in coach?

How very like James.Tiberius.Kirk.
Was she green?
Was there...Something?
On?
The Wing?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 12, 2015 11:29 PM (xq1UY)

80 The G.K. Chesterton quote on top is exactly what is happening on Universities today. The Left can only destroy.

Posted by: cm9000 at November 12, 2015 11:30 PM (2TUVm)

81 74 Seriously, as soon as tickets to Mars become available, I'm done with this fucking planet.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at November 12, 2015 11:27 PM (HalrA)



I'm with ya.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 12, 2015 11:30 PM (oKE6c)

82 That's what the Naval Observatory bathrooms looks like when the VP is around.

And we've lost count of the "Snickers bars" we've found floating in the pool.

Posted by: disgusted Secret Service agents at November 12, 2015 11:31 PM (REdlt)

83 I agree with Insty, by the way. Voting age needs to go up. The problem is that as the years go by, people are maturing slower and slower. The average 18 year old in 1910 was more mature than the average 25 year old today.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:31 PM (39g3+)

84 Unless something is seriously wrong with that photograph, I don't see a swastika either. A right-angle smear.

What I see is the evidence of a student who was way too heavily in their cups trying to take a late-night crap, and making a really bad job of the aftermath.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 12, 2015 11:31 PM (noWW6)

85 Wow, I'm way behind on my gun collection. Need to work on that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 12, 2015 11:31 PM (GDulk)

86 Hell, I think I saw a poll where the majority wants Chuck to step down and let William and Kate have it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

True. Mostly because they don't want Camilla as queen. She doesn't even publicly use the title Princess of Wales.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 12, 2015 11:31 PM (zn5Cm)

87 Anybody here have an idea what the recovery time for a broken ankle is? Are you in a boot the whole time?

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 12, 2015 11:26 PM (5q6rm)


Me: six weeks in a cast for a broken wrist. I expect an ankle would be the same. It takes that long for the bones to knit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2015 11:31 PM (0yhH4)

88 This ONT is full of shit. Buenos nachos.

Posted by: dogfish at November 12, 2015 11:32 PM (0O2Lr)

89 Hey There Baby...Are You Feeling Hawt For a Little Math Action?

Hey baby, can I orthogonalize your vector to do a Taylor series Expansion around your origns, IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: The Mathmatical Hat at November 12, 2015 11:32 PM (vBeA5)

90 Cato, Mars will be 1000% worse than Arizona. Even with the illegals.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:32 PM (gP0x8)

91
Who Poop this is?

Seriously, who catches their poop in their hand?

I'm guessing it was someone from the EPA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2015 11:32 PM (ODxAs)

92 "
Interesting the plane crash story was told in pictures. That required a
textual explanation to explain what the pictures represented.



Kind of like MS Windows that has cute little icons, and a pop up
text box you get when you put the mouse cursor on the cute little icon
to explain what the icon is intended to represent.





Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski"

That's the alternate text for the pictures, so people with bad eyesight can have their web browser speak the page to them.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 12, 2015 11:33 PM (Wo9OY)

93 "This ONT is full of shit. Buenos nachos."


Dogfish Johnson is right.

Posted by: Ricardo Johnson at November 12, 2015 11:33 PM (gP0x8)

94 That's what the Naval Observatory bathrooms looks like when the VP is around.

"Its enough to make you chat up teenage girls!"
-SS agent with unsuccessfully blurred face

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:33 PM (39g3+)

95 I've long thought I would've done much better in school and life if my mother had delayed my entry into school.

In most districts, there's a cutoff for admission into first grade by date of birth and no necessarily age.

Since my B'day falls in Dec. I was able to enter school a year earlier than otherwise.

A fateful error. The class after me was decidedly my inferior intellectually and I would've been bigger in size. That extra year would've seen me with much better grades and much better socially integrated.

The first of two major actions my parents took that made my life harder than if they'd not made them. The other was moving to the country side when I was ten. This broke all the newly formed and fragile alliances and friendships with all the other kids who lived in town. It was only a year before I was back in class with them but the damage and isolation had been done.

So to all youse parents out there, parenting is filled with pitfalls but delaying your kid when they're young is a good idea and separating them from their friends is not. Word to the wise.

And as for the Number of guns, I see I'm behind. I've already got my eyes on my next firearm. Just as soon as I whittle down my credit card balance. I'm getting it.

And some ammo. Lots of ammo.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 12, 2015 11:34 PM (Xo1Rt)

96 howdy,

I predict a race war of ginormous proportions kicking off in Europe in the next few years.

Posted by: Jake at November 12, 2015 11:34 PM (QelBn)

97 is that peanuts or corn smeared on that door handle? maybe they could ask the community organizer.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2015 11:35 PM (ucDmr)

98 Mate has a shitty job. But someone had to do it.

Yeah, yeah, I'm full of crap.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 12, 2015 11:35 PM (VROg+)

99 I'd say my gun collection was limited to these biceps baby!

But I have the athletic build of an author.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:36 PM (39g3+)

100 Parliament will give the succession to William. Plenty of precedent for doing that sort of thing.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2015 11:36 PM (xodPA)

101 And the Windows icons have to have explanatory text because they are often obscure as Hell.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2015 11:28 PM (0yhH4)
I wonder if any programmers out there can come up with a more efficient system, maybe dump the ten thousand graphic icons and have little 'windows' that can sort of appear when one puts the cursor over a certain place on the screen (or even use some of those weird 'ctrl', 'fn', or 'alt' keys) and have simple one or two word commands in them...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2015 11:36 PM (T78UI)

102 That's the alternate text for the pictures, so people with bad eyesight can have their web browser speak the page to them.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 12, 2015 11:33 PM (Wo9OY)


Then they could have done without the pictures, which are pretty crude, and probably don't properly represent what happened. Was the plane really a Clipper?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2015 11:36 PM (0yhH4)

103 80
The G.K. Chesterton quote on top is exactly what is happening on Universities today. The Left can only destroy.


Posted by: cm9000 at November 12, 2015 11:30 PM (2TUVm)


The H.L. Mencken quote all the way at the top is speaking to me today.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at November 12, 2015 11:36 PM (HalrA)

104 Howdy Jake.

Fairly safe prediction for both Europe & USA

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 12, 2015 11:36 PM (Omh3b)

105 "This ONT is full of shit. Buenos nachos."


Dogfish Johnson is right.
Posted by: Ricardo Johnson

Nietzsche says "shit happens".

Posted by: Ludwig Johnson at November 12, 2015 11:36 PM (zn5Cm)

106 90
Cato, Mars will be 1000% worse than Arizona. Even with the illegals.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:32 PM (gP0x


People can turn a paradise into hell or a hell into paradise.

Start again without the SJW's, and it won't matter if it takes every ounce of sweat just to keep the environment from killing you, it'll be heaven by comparison.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at November 12, 2015 11:38 PM (HalrA)

107 Parliament will give the succession to William. Plenty of precedent for doing that sort of thing.

I would not at all be surprised, he certainly seems like he's being groomed for it. Charles has douchebagged all over the family name, I'm amazed they even let him in the palace.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:38 PM (39g3+)

108 " Wow, I'm way behind on my gun collection. Need to work on that."


You need a good bolt gun.

A decent lever gun.

A good handgun.

A good shotty.

A good pump/semi

A good .22.

And a few extra indulgences. Bkack powder. A nice bolt .22.

Posted by: Ricardo Johnson at November 12, 2015 11:38 PM (gP0x8)

109 You know, this shit-guacamole really, really works on these GOPe shit nachos. Mmm. Perfect just like the "Draft Mitt" movement.

Posted by: huge hewitt at November 12, 2015 11:38 PM (xodPA)

110 So..

The British Monarchy has a bit of disagreement over succession? Man, that has never happened before.

You get a new head of state when they are young, and you have them for a lifetime. If you get a bad one, they are difficult to exchange for another one.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at November 12, 2015 11:38 PM (3anni)

111 I don't even have a safe space left to poop in. *sob*

Posted by: U of M Snowflake at November 12, 2015 11:39 PM (Dwehj)

112 86: Yeah, Duchess of Cornwall, she calls herself, one of the lesser titles. But, by the rules, she is Princess of Wales no matter what she calls herself isn't she?

I think I read something about they may pull something similar if and when Chuck gets the throne. She won't call herself queen consort, and won't be coronated along with the king as queen consorts usually do?

That would be one ugly queen, I must say. With that horseface, she and Kerry ought to get together.

It must be some good stuff, though, from how Chuck was besotted with her. But maybe that's just all the inbreeding showing up.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 12, 2015 11:39 PM (dvuhZ)

113
Then they could have done without the pictures, which are pretty crude, and probably don't properly represent what happened. Was the plane really a Clipper?


Smart internet folks figured out a while back that if you just have words, people skip it, but if you intersperse the words with even crappy pictures like a 3 year old's first reader, then you get eyeballs all the way to the bottom.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:40 PM (39g3+)

114 "Then they could have done without the pictures,
which are pretty crude, and probably don't properly represent what
happened. Was the plane really a Clipper?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"

That's just Oatmeal's style. He's got some good stuff on his page. I love XKCD also, but you wouldn't mistake them for being Rembrandt.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 12, 2015 11:40 PM (Wo9OY)

115 I have seen many times where the older kids in a school class have better developed social skills at an earlier age. But it seems as though it dissipates over time.

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 12, 2015 11:40 PM (5q6rm)

116 The H.L. Mencken quote all the way at the top is speaking to me today.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at November 12, 2015 11:36 PM (HalrA)


That quote "speaks to me" every day.

Posted by: cm9000 at November 12, 2015 11:40 PM (2TUVm)

117 "Nietzsche says "shit happens"."


What does that even mean?

Posted by: Ricardo Johnson at November 12, 2015 11:40 PM (gP0x8)

118 It must be some good stuff, though, from how Chuck was besotted with her. But maybe that's just all the inbreeding showing up.

I've seen better-than-decent evidence and arguments that Chuck is a bit on the fay side and the women are just cover. Either way: jackass.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:41 PM (39g3+)

119 Nietzsche says "A hand in the glove is worth two in a lavatory steamer."

Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2015 11:41 PM (3tjn4)

120 Chesterton says one should fight against trannies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 12, 2015 11:41 PM (FkBIv)

121 Smart internet folks figured out a while back that if you just have words, people skip it, but if you intersperse the words with even crappy pictures like a 3 year old's first reader, then you get eyeballs all the way to the bottom.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:40 PM (39g3+)


Surprised they don't go the Buzzfeed route and make people click each image.

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 12, 2015 11:41 PM (5q6rm)

122 I shall rule with an iron thermometer.

Posted by: Prince Charles of Tampon at November 12, 2015 11:42 PM (Dwehj)

123 Crap.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:42 PM (gP0x8)

124 Smart internet folks figured out a while back that if you just have words, people skip it, but if you intersperse the words with even crappy pictures like a 3 year old's first reader, then you get eyeballs all the way to the bottom.
TL;DR

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2015 11:42 PM (xodPA)

125 Surprised they don't go the Buzzfeed route and make people click each image.

I think there's info showing that tends to annoy and drive people away. Especially the slide shows with ads every 3-4 clicks.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:43 PM (39g3+)

126 They plan on bringing 200ish "Syrians" to bum fuck parts of Idaho. the locals are not very happy about that.

I saw a fat chick in a full face covering walking in Boise this week

way fat, like 5'5" and 240ish

with here pink face cover

are all moslem wimmins fat?

Posted by: Jake at November 12, 2015 11:43 PM (QelBn)

127 Was the plane really a Clipper?

Looked it up, it was a Constellation.

Posted by: meh at November 12, 2015 11:43 PM (X1dxr)

128 "Princess of Wales" is a courtesy title, bestowed upon the wife of the Prince of Wales, which is the title held by the Heir Apparent to the British Throne.


Sort of like "first lady". Not a real title, just an honorific.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2015 11:44 PM (0yhH4)

129 I usually shit in the backyard and wipe my ass with obama care bills. asshole.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2015 11:44 PM (ucDmr)

130 There might have been two of them under there, Jake.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2015 11:44 PM (xodPA)

131 this is a safe place.


That's a likely story.

Interesting the roddenberry story and at the bottom was a link to an article about how coffee is related to poop. ????

We've all become scheise meisters.

And btw, someone needs remedial course if symbol identification. That Poopscrawl looks nothing like a swastika.

It dribbled down the seams between the tiles is all.

Doesn't come close to a swastika.

This whole deal is a hoax and done with malice afore thought.

And if one was particularly tinfoil inclined would think that maybe it was a racial assault on the supposed white infrastructure by well paid and educated 5 th columnists intending to start a racial war.

But I could be wrong.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 12, 2015 11:45 PM (Xo1Rt)

132 So, why the long face?

Posted by: Prince Charles of Tampon at November 12, 2015 11:45 PM (Dwehj)

133 @129. *snorts*

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 12, 2015 11:45 PM (+oRxW)

134 "They plan on bringing 200ish "Syrians" to bum fuck parts of Idaho. the locals are not very happy about that. "



Really? Where?


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:45 PM (gP0x8)

135 Forget it, Jake. It's Burqaville.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2015 11:46 PM (xodPA)

136 I can't figure it out, why do assholes ask questions they already know the answer to?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 12, 2015 11:46 PM (rSTkb)

137 Regarding BDS and the labeling of jewish goods with the Star of David....

Like Lamb? yeeesss?

Go to any Costco and peruse the lamb offerings. All stamped with the HALAL
seal of approval. jihad. isis. whatevers.

Do not buy it, either. . Goose, Gander, some assembly required. All lamb in US is blessed by Allah.

My Easter dinner?

Lamb blessed by Allah?

No. Fing. way.


Posted by: derak at November 12, 2015 11:46 PM (Ktvts)

138 Caustic Conservative.

Back in '98, I involuntarily donated a Honda Gold Wing to the field of medical science, and all I got was these five screws in my left ankle to show for it.

Which raises the question..... what was the nature of your break? Surgery? Screws, plates or wires, or a combination thereof?

I had some severe nerve damage resulting from the surgery, and it required eight months to be able to safely walk again, and a full two years to walk without a limp.

If you want, you can write to the email in my nic. I'll tell you what I went through, if any of it might help you in any way.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 12, 2015 11:47 PM (McRlu)

139 Barbarusa suggested in the last thread, and I think they're right, that the Missou nonsense is supposed to kick off a new Occupy movement for the 2016 election, but I don't think this one is gonna fly. Students don't seem to be connecting, and that whole "shove the reporter away and call for muscle" bit really stinks.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:47 PM (39g3+)

140 114 "Then they could have done without the pictures,
which are pretty crude, and probably don't properly represent what
happened. Was the plane really a Clipper?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"

That's just Oatmeal's style. He's got some good stuff on his page. I love XKCD also, but you wouldn't mistake them for being Rembrandt.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 12, 2015 11:40 PM (Wo9OY)


I'm not sure what all the outrage is over - there are different styles of comics. Some have highly detailed graphics with minimal print while other are more texty with simplified drawings accompanying the print. Look at any comics page in a newspaper and you'll see all styles.

Posted by: Maetenloch at November 12, 2015 11:47 PM (pAlYe)

141 126 They plan on bringing 200ish "Syrians" to bum fuck parts of Idaho. the locals are not very happy about that.

I saw a fat chick in a full face covering walking in Boise this week

way fat, like 5'5" and 240ish

with here pink face cover

are all moslem wimmins fat?
Posted by: Jake at November 12, 2015 11:43 PM (QelBn)




yeesh loads full burkaheds around my home in exile. started referring to them as dementors.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2015 11:47 PM (vb33c)

142 Looked it up, it was a Constellation.

Posted by: meh at November 12, 2015 11:43 PM (X1dxr)


My first airline flight as a little kid was in a Super Constipation.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 12, 2015 11:47 PM (0yhH4)

143 Ooooooo -- A George Carlin reference in last paragraph.

That Meatlocker, he sure gets around.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2015 11:48 PM (gyKtp)

144 Go to any Costco and peruse the lamb offerings. All stamped with the HALAL
seal of approval. jihad. isis. whatevers.


Meat offered to idols, its just meat. But I can see not wanting to put money in the pockets of your enemies, too, which is why Paul left it up to the individual.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:48 PM (39g3+)

145 "So to all youse parents out there, parenting is filled with pitfalls but delaying your kid when they're young is a good idea and separating them from their friends is not. Word to the wise."
-------
Guess military folks shouldn't have kids the, because kids being separated from friends is a fact of life as a military brat.

Posted by: SMFH at November 12, 2015 11:49 PM (zyIlW)

146 I can't figure it out, why do assholes ask questions they already know the answer to?

--
Because if you are an asshole and tell people what to think, they get all hostile and shit.

But if you ask them a question that forces them to think they get all confused first, and then they get all hostile and call you an asshole. See?

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at November 12, 2015 11:49 PM (3anni)

147 138 Caustic Conservative.

Back in '98, I involuntarily donated a Honda Gold Wing to the field of medical science, and all I got was these five screws in my left ankle to show for it.

Which raises the question..... what was the nature of your break? Surgery? Screws, plates or wires, or a combination thereof?

I had some severe nerve damage resulting from the surgery, and it required eight months to be able to safely walk again, and a full two years to walk without a limp.

If you want, you can write to the email in my nic. I'll tell you what I went through, if any of it might help you in any way.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 12, 2015 11:47 PM (McRlu)




Speaking of a life well-lived and all that -- how's the aftermath from the skylight incident going?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2015 11:49 PM (EzgxV)

148 Tim Wilson's views on Prince Charles as the King of England.


https://youtu.be/f6mLLhX1V4w

Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2015 11:50 PM (zt+N6)

149
Tries to fill in by teaching welding at the local community college,
but because he doesn't have a degree, they won't hire him on and pay him
as a full time teacher, just a once-a-week "assistant" that does all
the real teaching.

---------
My dad was a corpsman in the Navy. Served for 22 years. When he joined the civilian world, he had to go to college to get his nursing degree so he could do less at a hospital than the navy had him do in the field.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 12, 2015 11:50 PM (KlVdw)

150 My Easter dinner?

Lamb blessed by Allah?

No. Fing. way.


Posted by: derak

Also, halal certification means the animal was basically tortured to death. There is literally (not figuratively) no aspect of islam that has any merit.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 12, 2015 11:50 PM (zn5Cm)

151 My bacon is blessed by Bubba.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 12, 2015 11:50 PM (FkBIv)

152 Wasn't the plane that Indy flies in the movies a Connie? Those were pretty much everywhere for a while.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:50 PM (39g3+)

153 Damn, this is fun, but I gotta bounce.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 12, 2015 11:50 PM (gP0x8)

154 Evening horde.

Anybody ever tell Maet he works too damn hard?

So. Many. Links.

So. Much. Content.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 12, 2015 11:50 PM (9jeGC)

155 My brother pointed out to me that a clockwise poop swastika should only be an insult to those who use the clockwise swastika as their symbol, the Nazis. I like to think I am smart, but brudder dearest is like my own personal Mycroft.

P.S. A counterclockwise poop swastika would be a stain on Na(t)ive Americans.

P.P.S. Even if the clockwise poop swastika insulted other than Nazis, would not the insulted be the Jews? Is there some self-identification going on based on the medium of artistic expression?

Posted by: Marooned Maroon at November 12, 2015 11:51 PM (9uejt)

156 It's a a Baby Ruth !

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 12, 2015 11:51 PM (dULJN)

157 I get what the article is saying about delaying school entry. But here's the problem. We now have 13 years of required school in this country in order to get a high school diploma. Twelve was bad enough. So the educrats took what used to be a fun play year of K to get kids used to being away from Mommy, and turned it into a high-stakes test environment completely inappropriate for 5-year-olds. So somehow now it takes 13 years to do what used to take 12.

If you compensate for this by delaying school entry, you're also delaying school escape and therefore delaying adulthood. As if these kids aren't infantilized enough, they're going to be stuck raising their hands for permission to go potty when they're 19.

Not sure of the solution though.

Posted by: Rarity at November 12, 2015 11:51 PM (wa4CP)

158 ha...burkaville

Syrians to Twin Falls in South Central ID.

Twin Falls is not where even close to being as liberal as Boise.

Twin Falls is cowboys, dairy farmers, and potato farmers.

Posted by: Jake at November 12, 2015 11:51 PM (QelBn)

159 148: I always loved that. Lauphed my ass off again. King a England!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2015 11:52 PM (ucDmr)

160 145 "So to all youse parents out there, parenting is filled with pitfalls but delaying your kid when they're young is a good idea and separating them from their friends is not. Word to the wise."
-------
Guess military folks shouldn't have kids the, because kids being separated from friends is a fact of life as a military brat.

Posted by: SMFH at November 12, 2015 11:49 PM (zyIlW)



Hello, Sweetie!



23 more questions and 82 pages left.....whoo-hoo!!! How's your script rewrite going?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2015 11:52 PM (EzgxV)

161 Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664852399174062080

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664852816033353728

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664854002090250240

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664854369301602304

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664854672126144512

Posted by: kbdabear at November 12, 2015 11:52 PM (GrXXa)

162 My brother pointed out to me that a clockwise poop swastika should only
be an insult to those who use the clockwise swastika as their symbol,
the Nazis. I like to think I am smart, but brudder dearest is like my
own personal Mycroft.

------------------

Are you saying 'Piss Christ' and 'Elephant Turd Mary' were not, uh, complimentary.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2015 11:54 PM (T78UI)

163 More Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664855210699943936

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664855630822440960

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664856049590116352

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664856269967224832

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/664856484002557952

Posted by: kbdabear at November 12, 2015 11:54 PM (GrXXa)

164 Hey, I understand that circumstances can make certain decisions necessary.

All their decisions were voluntary with no consideration for what it would mean to the kids.

Maybe they thought it was for the best, but I have my doubts.

Who knows, it could've made things worse. Maybe I would've stayed local and not left and then got drafted to Viet Nam and killed over there. Que sabe?

It's not like it keeps me up at night like you guys do.

It was just a passing thought triggered by one of the links.

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 12, 2015 11:55 PM (Xo1Rt)

165 Are you saying 'Piss Christ' and 'Elephant Turd Mary' were not, uh, complimentary.

We weren't real fond of Mapplethorp's work either

Posted by: Bullwhip Manufacturers at November 12, 2015 11:55 PM (39g3+)

166 Posted by: Jake at November 12, 2015 11:43 PM (QelBn)

2009. Airport remote Eastern Washington State. Flying to Hawaii.

87 year old dad, going through TSA. Two knee replacements. Doesn't mince words, alarms going off. Gives 'em a piece of his mind.

Powers that be replace immediately head scrutinizer with 250lb white as can be "muslim" woman in full hijab. Takes control of 6am line of travellers, all to let little old daddy know his time as a force in his small world is overrrrrrr.

Haven't flown since.

Its everywhere.

Posted by: derak at November 12, 2015 11:56 PM (Ktvts)

167 Fun fact I just learned. Kate, among a list, has the title of The Lady Carrickfergus.

Carrickfergus. She ought to use that more.

We ought to give similiar titles to our royalty. What should we dub Obama. Duke of Fuckstick? How about the Kardashians?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 12, 2015 11:56 PM (dvuhZ)

168 Is kindergarten mandatory? When I was that age not many people attended it. I didn't.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 12, 2015 11:56 PM (FkBIv)

169 Posted by: Jake at November 12, 2015 11:51 PM (QelBn)

Well, sure. They punish the (generally) conservative areas, while planting future demoncrat voters.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 12, 2015 11:56 PM (JqEq4)

170 Getting some screws or something Saturday morning. I have a scheduled surgery at that time. Never talked to a surgeon about it personally though, which is why I am asking here, I guess...

Broke my fibula just above the ankle, some ligament damage. ER docs said the way it broke would require some hardware, but didn't get any farther than that in terms of detail.

Orthopedic surgeon is supposed to call me tomorrow in advance of surgery on Saturday. They stuck me in a boot, gave me a bottle of hydrocodone pills, and wheeled me to the door.

It's my right foot, hoping I could be in a walking cast ASAP but I figure we won't be driving anywhere until XMas or so.

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 12, 2015 11:57 PM (5q6rm)

171 Gene Roddenberry survived three plane crashes? In light of that the fact that he didn't want to fly anymore isn't so surprising.

Posted by: Ace's liver at November 12, 2015 11:57 PM (+azJs)

172 Hey cooth.

Turned in my 2nd draft today...should get graded over the weekend and I'll get the feedback Monday in time for the final draft.

Working on some silly-ass discussion post that's due Sunday. I have to watch and comment on a show I have never had the slightest interest in watching.

Anyone ever watch "Arrested Development"?

Posted by: SMFH at November 12, 2015 11:57 PM (zyIlW)

173 Carrickfergus? Great song.

https://youtu.be/ZVuMfSH15vk

Peasall girls, love em

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 12, 2015 11:57 PM (39g3+)

174 Crucifix in urine: Insult to Christians.
Madonna covered with dung: Insult to Christians.

Swastika of poop: Insult to blacks.

Um...

Posted by: Tennesee Ernie Fard at November 12, 2015 11:58 PM (3myMJ)

175 What should we dub Obama. Duke of Fuckstick? How about the Kardashians?
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

Lady Barry of Bathhouse.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 12, 2015 11:59 PM (zn5Cm)

176 Nice one, Sr Maetenloch. Art aside, appreciate the planecrash tale, especially.

Those of you abandoning planet, on your way out, don't let the exit hatch hitcha where the good Lord splitcha. And when we retake things, your starved, scrawny asses go to the back of the line to get back in, m'kay?



Good night, Gracies!

Posted by: mindful webworker at November 12, 2015 11:59 PM (mor4Y)

177 Posted by: Jake at November 12, 2015 11:51 PM (QelBn)

And Mormons. Couldn't be more "in your white privileged Christian face".

You will be forced. Expect it.

Posted by: derak at November 13, 2015 12:00 AM (Ktvts)

178 146
I can't figure it out, why do assholes ask questions they already know the answer to?


Courtroom Lesson #1 for law students.

Posted by: Sixkiller at November 13, 2015 12:00 AM (bfpzm)

179
Hmm, well at least I'm doing better than the average firearms owner, in terms of numbers. Several duplicates, however (and not adding a third Garand, if only for giggles and price appreciation potential, is becoming very difficult). And no Evil Black Rifle.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2015 12:00 AM (QDnY+)

180 >>>Fun fact I just learned. Kate, among a list, has the title of The Lady Carrickfergus.
Carrickfergus. She ought to use that more.
We ought to give similiar titles to our royalty. What should we dub Obama. Duke of Fuckstick?
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 12, 2015 11:56 PM (dvuhZ)<<<

The Lady* Barryfuckus

*that's right, I said it

Posted by: SCOAMF's royal title at November 13, 2015 12:02 AM (REdlt)

181 Moochelle: The Lady Broadbottom.

Who would be the Earl of Douchebgag? (long ago SNL skit, about the Earl of Sandwich's buddy who also was working on something)

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 13, 2015 12:02 AM (dvuhZ)

182
Tranny.
It's just tyranny masquerading without the y.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 13, 2015 12:03 AM (KlVdw)

183 And why all the Charles hate?

Sure he's said some dumb things but hey he's been waiting for Liz to drop dead for 30 years now and the selfish bitch has decided he doesn't deserve to be King for a little bit?

She just wanted to top Victoria (or was it E I?) and because of modern medicine and the fact that she doesn't do shit has allowed her to live a long and useless life.

Anyone tell me where this frozen mug of a meat puppet ever inspired anyone or anything?

not likely. Except for the Brits. And liberals. The loves the Royals. For some reason.

I always thought Chuck should've had his chance but that's about gone now thanks to miss selfish pants.

Wonder how much it costs the Brits for her to lug around her puppies everywhere?

And Now I'll drop the real bomb; Princes Di was a Biatch. She didn't deserve to die as she did but she was planning to really screw up the Royals and the Brits. She was a vicious thoughtless, selfish twit who tried to blackmail the Monarchy and the Monarchy won. Too bad cause she really could've done a lot but she chose to be a "modern" woman or something.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 13, 2015 12:03 AM (Xo1Rt)

184 I have some relatives who converted to Church of Later Day Saints. I don't feel uncomfortable with them.

Now if they had converted to Islam I would be quite uncomfortable. As I do up the road where there is a huge Jenny 0 turkey plant. Wish Hormel would buy it & process pork

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 13, 2015 12:04 AM (P4OkF)

185 Speaking of firearms, I just went shopping for some today. I found a SIG M11 a sweet AR15-style rifle in 7.62mm. Wish I could've afforded to buy 'em but alas....

Definitely considering an AR in 7.62 instead of 5.56 now.

Posted by: Commissar M at November 13, 2015 12:04 AM (Xx2PC)

186 175: I love The Duke of Fuckstick. Adios friends.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 13, 2015 12:05 AM (ucDmr)

187 And why all the Charles hate?


Because he's an amazingly dumb twat, even by Battenburg standards.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 13, 2015 12:05 AM (oKE6c)

188 I always thought Chuck should've had his chance but that's about gone now thanks to miss selfish pants.

Aside from his pontificating about global warming while flying around the planet, pandering to Muslims, and reducing "protector of the faith" to "protector of faith," he's just an overall douchebag.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 13, 2015 12:05 AM (39g3+)

189 The Count of Caulk and The Prince of Paste, Joe Biden.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 13, 2015 12:05 AM (4ErVI)

190 I've got all those merit badges. What do I win?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at November 13, 2015 12:06 AM (fC9RO)

191 Thinking about the prior thread re: millenials.

I'ts no wonder they are the way they are. And certainly there are exceptions to the stereotype. But the stereotype is there for a reason.

Millenials have been raised since birth in households that typically have one parent, with the divorce rate so high. They have never had an example of a loving two parent household, in which the mother and father have to make concessions to one another or to the household in order to save money, etc. The stability of that household has never been there for them. They were raised by a grandparent, or sent to daycare, then preschool, then kindergarten, then school. Where they were given whatever attention by strangers, and then educated by strangers.
They often, especially if male, have been drugged since they were children to make them docile. Boys are not permitted to exhibit normal male exuberance in class or socially, with sports being the only outlet. Those sports, especially football, have been under assault for a decade regarding injuries, concussions, and the all around DANGER they pose to the player.
They have been told since childhood not to be in the sun, not to swim in a pond, not to eat fast food, not to get dirty, they can't go to the playground unless fully supervised, everything at the playground must be super safe, i.e. not much fun, they cannot go outside and simply play in the neighborhood due to stranger danger, they can't be out of an adult's sight less the adult have child services called on them. All of the above things are constantly pointed out and told to be dangerous to the child.
They have been told and trained that all lifestyles are worthy. They have been trained that everyone is equal, except those who had some injustice placed upon them and are therefore special. (People of color, women, gay, lesbian, and all the new types). So they need to be given special privileges, even though they are supposed to be equal. Since they are special, common sense tells the millenial that they are therefore inferior. That somehow, the injustices are their fault(Just like they believe that somehow, it's their fault mom and dad split up).

Girls have been told they can do anything a man can do, even if that activity requires the strength of men. They are told as small children to embrace sexual feelings and that all sorts of sexual pairing is good, acceptable, and normal. They are told to have sex early and often, then at the same time told that all sexual activity involving men is rape. They are dressed up as sluts from an early age and then told to be enraged if they attract attention. If they don't attract attention from males, it's because they are discriminated against.

I could go on and on, but I think most here get the idea. If ever there was an example of how to raise a really screwed up individual into their twenties, I believe the last two generations have mastered it. And we are now living with the results.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 13, 2015 12:07 AM (dzKf1)

192
Well of course disenfranchising most people under 25 would be good for them and the country and the world, and there is precisely zero chance of that happening. Which I assume makes Insty's statement just for show, as surely he also knows this.

And as someone pointed out in ace's last thread, it's not "milennials" who are idiotically and pathetically caving in to demands from stupid, unskilled, unliked freak activists, nor is it those milennials who created the dumbed-down ridiculous alternate reality of most universities and much of society today. The milennials just "staff" the joint, it was designed by much older people.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2015 12:07 AM (QDnY+)

193 Guns?

Who tells the truth on any poll or survey? Someone asks me how many Firearms I have?
None. I do not own any guns!

The doctors office has a question about guns on their stupid history form. What guns?, I do not own any guns.

When I buy a gun at the FFL, I use a credit card, because I already fill out a 4473. Anything else, I use cash. Ammo, cash. Anything else, cash. Except at Christmas, then I can use the "It's a gift."

Posted by: nameless for a reason at November 13, 2015 12:08 AM (vYuKc)

194 ok gotta go


have a nice evening everyone

Posted by: Jake at November 13, 2015 12:09 AM (QelBn)

195 Gonna kiss some butt here...

Maet, You are without a doubt completely wired into the culture and what matters at this most critical time.

I applaud your perspective, your links show how in tune you are with the current zeitgeist. As I roll around the internet, you most certainly synopsize the most important topics of the day. No one on the web does it as well as you.

You should do your own "Drudge".

end of butt kiss.


Posted by: derak at November 13, 2015 12:10 AM (Ktvts)

196 190 >> I've got all those merit badges. What do I win?

Nothing, Alex, until you have the mandated minimum of 42 pieces of flair.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 12:10 AM (gyKtp)

197 I have nothing against Charles , the queen, etc. just hard to respect people who suck off the country's money and they don't do anything. All they do is ceremonial

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 13, 2015 12:11 AM (P4OkF)

198 All true, Jen the Original.

The bulwark of society has always been that the REAL WORLD intrudes at some point. But what if we hand society over to people incapable of caring for it.

Sumbitch going to go down pretty quick.

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 13, 2015 12:11 AM (5q6rm)

199 Woot woot Wild beat Hurricanes in OT. Sorry Nipster

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 13, 2015 12:12 AM (UiGnh)

200
Aha, Jen the original did a more expansive and much more interesting but similar take to mine. Well said.

I recall my astonishment when told by my sister back in the 90s about the mass-drugging of students in elementary school (ritalin?). I could, literally, almost not believe it, it sounded too much like Orwell or Huxley come to life. Of course it was true.

And while completely open to being corrected, it seems to me there is a theme to this pudding. The country that saved and then dominated the world in the mid-20th century, went to the moon, and invented most of the best positive things in the contemporary era, somehow needed to drug a huge% of its young students, and then needed to reinvent how to teach basic subjects (common core)? WTF?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2015 12:13 AM (QDnY+)

201 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 13, 2015 12:14 AM (YJmuy)

202 Sucking off the country's money pretty much describes Washington, doesn't it? And they are probably worse than the Royals.

I mean where they live, there was no recession, full employment, etc, and they wonder what all the fuss is about. Why are all these stupid rubes out there so worried and agitated about the economy.

They're living in lap of luxury, provided by Washington sucking all the blood out of the hinterlands.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 13, 2015 12:14 AM (dvuhZ)

203 Derak sometimes you have to let mgmt know their shit doesn't stink. That they have good shit and you enjoy the crap they produce.


But I think we all agree in where you are coming from

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 13, 2015 12:15 AM (s0Kry)

204 183 And why all the Charles hate?

Sure he's said some dumb things but hey he's been waiting for Liz to drop dead for 30 years now and the selfish bitch has decided he doesn't deserve to be King for a little bit?

She just wanted to top Victoria (or was it E I?) and because of modern medicine and the fact that she doesn't do shit has allowed her to live a long and useless life.

Anyone tell me where this frozen mug of a meat puppet ever inspired anyone or anything?

not likely. Except for the Brits. And liberals. The loves the Royals. For some reason.

I always thought Chuck should've had his chance but that's about gone now thanks to miss selfish pants.

Wonder how much it costs the Brits for her to lug around her puppies everywhere?

And Now I'll drop the real bomb; Princes Di was a Biatch. She didn't deserve to die as she did but she was planning to really screw up the Royals and the Brits. She was a vicious thoughtless, selfish twit who tried to blackmail the Monarchy and the Monarchy won. Too bad cause she really could've done a lot but she chose to be a "modern" woman or something.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 13, 2015 12:03 AM (Xo1Rt)



Queen Elizabeth II served in the British Army during WW2 as a mechanic.


Prince Charles wants to be known as "Defender of all faiths" to kiss muzzie ass.

Posted by: buzzion at November 13, 2015 12:15 AM (zt+N6)

205 172 Hey cooth.

Turned in my 2nd draft today...should get graded over the weekend and I'll get the feedback Monday in time for the final draft.

Working on some silly-ass discussion post that's due Sunday. I have to watch and comment on a show I have never had the slightest interest in watching.

Anyone ever watch "Arrested Development"?

Posted by: SMFH at November 12, 2015 11:57 PM (zyIlW)




One day early!!! Whoo-hoo! You go, girl!!!



Can't help you with the TV show, however -- it sounds like a busted subdivision. Well, actually.... Make sure to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Arrested_Development_%28TV_series%29 and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367279/ before you waste too much time actually watching the damned thing.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 12:15 AM (EzgxV)

206 @ cthulhu.


Brother, my shoulder isn't much better than Caustic Conservative's ankle. Which is to say, I can work, and haul a ladder with my left hand. I've got about 80% movement on my right, and only 50% strength.

And the pain threshold arrives much sooner, and at an unbelievably ferocious intensity. It's not fun.

I'd start a gofundme for surgery, but people would just point and laugh, as I'm neither cute, sexy or marketable in today's media insta-world.

So, I'm working on finding some other avenues to pursue treatment, and it must be found. The shoulder is in bad shape, and I need to get it cut on, before it fully sets as a bum wing.

@ Caustic Conservative.

You won't be able to even *stand* being in the front seat ON EITHER SIDE of the car, for two to three weeks. You'll want to ride in the back, sideways, with your leg up on pillows.

Keep it above your heart as much as possible. When it gets below your heart, your own pulse within the arteries and veins in your leg will cause you to writhe in agony.

That'll go away after a couple or five weeks. Maybe six. Notice I haven't even mentioned rehab yet?

I fired my *rehab* team, wrenched a set of obsolete Campi strap-type pedals onto a Fuji 15 speed, and began my own rehab, starting at 1/2 mile a day. Eight months later, I had it up to 14 miles per day, in 45 to 50 minutes.

That healed up the nerves so I could at least walk, but like I said, overcoming the limp took a full two years.

You need to have 'em set you up with the strongest pain med they'll trust you with, for the first five days to a week after surgery. Then, go down to plain ol' vicodin for pain, until you can downgrade to aspirin or whatever works for you on a non-prescription basis.

But do trust me on keeping the ankle elevated above your heart, whenever possible. Let the family know that you need the sofa for a few months, or OWN the recliner, and pillows on the footrest as necessary.

And be ready for that sideways in the car, ride home from the hospital. With pillows back there to elevate your leg.

I'm not going to sugar coat it. You're in for a hell of a rough few weeks there. My prayers are with you, and I'm sure you've got a Pack of Corgis sending their prayers, too.

By the way. How the damn hell DID you break the thing? Hope it was at least, creative, spectacular and entertaining?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 13, 2015 12:16 AM (McRlu)

207 Well its good night folks. I'll leave you with this beautiful piece by the Peasall Sisters

https://youtu.be/UXt6-AFPZg4

Where no one stands alone.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 13, 2015 12:16 AM (39g3+)

208 Too bad Barry isn't just a ceremonial one.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 13, 2015 12:16 AM (FkBIv)

209 86 Hell, I think I saw a poll where the majority wants Chuck to step down and let William and Kate have it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

True. Mostly because they don't want Camilla as queen. She doesn't even publicly use the title Princess of Wales.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 12, 2015 11:31 PM (zn5Cm)



Parliament can change the law of succession, but that won't do it.

Remember, the Queen is also the Head of State for Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Jamaica, Antigua and Barbuda, Belize, Papua New Guinea, St Christopher and Nevis, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Tuvalu, Barbados, Grenada, Solomon Islands, St Lucia and The Bahamas.

All of them would also have to approve the succession change.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 13, 2015 12:16 AM (Z7G74)

210 My brother, who is just 49, quit teaching college this year. Just couldn't stand dealing with the students and their poor writing skills, no effort, demands for a better grade because they TRIED THEIR BEST.

He got into college administration instead.

Poor bastard.

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 13, 2015 12:16 AM (5q6rm)

211 A Nambu in that arsenal, but no AR? Needs work.

Posted by: CMU VET at November 13, 2015 12:17 AM (ejB0r)

212 OMG THE ABHOMINATION ITSELF AYYYY!!!!!!

Well ... it could be a quarter of a swasticka ... a "swa". Close enough for lefty college kindergartners or government work (BIRM).

Clearly, the artist needs more roughage in his diet. This might be proof that the artist was on that soylent stuff ...

And leaving a smear on the handle ... that's just uncouth. He had a toilet bowl to wash his hands off in - no matter what Salma Hayek says.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2015 12:19 AM (zc3Db)

213 When they come to collect my guns they will get 2.

They were in a car fire but they are still as much a functioning gun as a Pop Tart. They look kinda cool hanging on the wall at the deer camp.

Posted by: Willy J. at November 13, 2015 12:19 AM (wHX4r)

214 The Queen did work in the motor pool during WW2. She'll probably be too old to help in the next one. Probably.

Posted by: free tibet, etc. at November 13, 2015 12:20 AM (lAXNl)

215 Hey

They think they killed jihadi John

Posted by: ThunderB at November 13, 2015 12:21 AM (zOTsN)

216 somehow needed to drug a huge% of its young students, and then needed to reinvent how to teach basic subjects (common core)? WTF?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2015 12:13 AM (QDnY+)

I honestly don't know what came first, the psuedo psychologists that fill the education schools at most colleges that produce teachers and administrators, or the demanding parents who threaten to sue the school for disciplining kids, therefore turning it into one big psycho day care center. If you can't provide enough gym and recess that young kids need, plus a structured environment due to all the restrictions, then the teachers demand (and found an easy out with insisting the boys, especially, be taken to the doctor to get a Rx because in the school's learned opinion, they are hyperactive, ADD, ADHD, etc.)

Posted by: Jen the original at November 13, 2015 12:21 AM (dzKf1)

217
*!*

Idea. Which means someone else has already thought of it. The NRO link about Prof. Swain caused me to think of this.

Excerpt:
"Professor Swain has testified a number of times before the U.S.Commission on Civil Rights, of which I’m a member. It’s plain from her testimony that she suffers from two serious afflictions: speaking plainly and not suffering fools (or foolishness) gladly. I may sometimes disagree with her but she’s learned and always rigorously thoughtful. Clearly, she has no place on today’s college campus. She’s an unsafe space personified."

So, I propose a t-shirt that says, "I Am Not a Safe Space"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 12:21 AM (oFSUK)

218 That gun arsenal would be way worse if there was a derringer!

Posted by: Rolling Stoned at November 13, 2015 12:21 AM (REdlt)

219 Thanks cooth.

Reading the script of one of the episodes is less painful.

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 12:22 AM (zyIlW)

220 Uh, sure she "served" as a mechanic.

C'mon. You and I both know that was strictly for image. She didn't do squat except be seen.

I mean that's their thing and none of our business but still, it's a pretty useless way of life and I think she selfishly clings to power because she doesn't want to give up her position. Little as it means.

And I wonder about how messed up Chuck really is. The Royals play a good game of rumor and innuendo. And against each other a lot of the time.

I know he didn't start sounding weird until much later in life when he got involved in a lot of stuff trying to find some place for himself because the place he was bred to fill was being hogged by his skank mother.

I'd get a little upset about that myself. But he can't come out and say stuff like that so he has to resort to other things to get his licks in.

Oh, Yeah, he wasn't made out to be so dingy until the succession was assured. Strange that, Huh?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 13, 2015 12:22 AM (Xo1Rt)

221 The Queen did work in the motor pool during WW2. She'll probably be too old to help in the next one. Probably.
Posted by: free tibet
-------------------

Also, practiced with a .455 Webley on the palace grounds. If the Huns were going to take Buckingham palace, there would be a price.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 12:25 AM (oFSUK)

222 I'd start a gofundme for surgery, but people would just point and laugh,
as I'm neither cute, sexy or marketable in today's media insta-world.


See this kitten? http://preview.tinyurl.com/o8cebxk

This kitten would love to be petted by Jim, but Jim needs surgery to repair his damaged rotator cuff on his petting arm. Please help make a kitten happy, donate to Jim's gofundme today!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 13, 2015 12:25 AM (YJmuy)

223 The Average Gun Owner Now Owns 8 Firearms

I only have 5. Sorry guys, I'm bringing down the average.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2015 12:26 AM (zc3Db)

224 191 >> Girls have been told they can do anything a man can do, even if that activity requires the strength of men.

Posted by: Jen

Case in point -- As my daughter was exploring her grown-up options, when she was around 13 she suggested to me that she would like to become a mechanic.

I said that's great, it's a valuable skill that will always be in demand. But here's the thing -- A mechanic needs a lot of upper body strength. Your brother, 5 years older, could not break loose headbolts torqued to a lowly 95 foot pounds. Some bolts on a car can go as high as 240 foot pounds. Some jobs just require muscle. And while I have wrestled you and you are definitely strong, you would have to turn it up quite a few notches to be an effective mechanic.

She's now a pediatric nurse.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 12:26 AM (gyKtp)

225 Shakespeare had it all wrong. First let's kill all the college professors

Posted by: Hank at November 13, 2015 12:26 AM (IkSOf)

226 219 Thanks cooth.

Reading the script of one of the episodes is less painful.

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 12:22 AM (zyIlW)




Oh, sorry -- I thought you actually had to watch it. Please ignore that part of previous comment.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 12:29 AM (EzgxV)

227 She's now a pediatric nurse.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 12:26 AM (gyKtp)


nuts are much smaller

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 13, 2015 12:29 AM (vb33c)

228 Thank you much for the cheerful prognosis, Jim!

ER nurse said I was the toughest sumbitch he had seen with that injury in 23 years. But I knew I had a high threshold for that. Worried mostly about how long it will take me to be able to function again, even a little bit, outside. I farm, and had my vet here to vaccinate some cattle. THe concrete lot was clean last week but a little greasy after heavy rain last night. We were pushing a two wheeled cart out of the way by hand since the vet's pickup was only 2 wheel drive and the yard was slippery. I wish I had a sexy lie, but I slipped on cattle shit and fell. Heard it break, the guys I was working with called an ambulance right away. As I laid on the cold concrete, the vet asked me if I was OK. I said yeah, I know what you normally recommend for a broken leg! When the paramedics got my boot off I realized it was closer to my ankle. Got as big as a softball. They really didn't do anything for me in the ER except put me in the boot and send me home until surgery. What should I be asking the orthopedist when I talk to him tomorrow AM?

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 13, 2015 12:30 AM (5q6rm)

229
Jen, though these days my capacity for astonishment and despair is long since exhausted - of course - when I pause to think about this Huxleyesque insanity about drugging school kids, it still drops the jaw.

And though - unlike your average NPR-marinated clueless "liberal" or "moderate" - I again stand ready to be edumucated about something I don't know that makes sense of all this, the collateral issues raise confidence that my initial reaction is sound. Those issues being the cocooning of children in and out of school, the risk-free obsession, the end of childhood as all previous generations knew it, for most. And the wheel-spinning about somehow discovering a new way to teach things that have been taught around the world and in the US for generations.

But to keep to our shared theme, the key thing here is the parents. Accepting this insanity, even for a moment. Of course they were/are often part of it, drugging their kids for their own convenience.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2015 12:31 AM (QDnY+)

230 @222 Blanco Basura,


Thanks, that's a good idea for me to consider.

I'd thought about hanging out at Cougar bars as an escort, but quickly realized I'd have to pay to hand out free samples, so there went that idea.

Plan B? Hell, I'm gonna need a larger alphabet!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 13, 2015 12:31 AM (McRlu)

231 "Some bolts on a car can go as high as 240 foot pounds."
-----------
Pffft.

Try torquing (or even worse, removing) the bolts on an Abrams, especially when removing the breech block.

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 12:32 AM (zyIlW)

232 227 nuts are much smaller

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 13, 2015 12:29 AM (vb33c)

Lol. True.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 12:33 AM (gyKtp)

233 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 13, 2015 12:22 AM (Xo1Rt)


No, the then-Princess Elizabeth did in fact serve in the motor pool. As did her younger sister, Margaret, IIRC. She took her duties seriously, and developed quite a taste for hands-on wrenching, and for years afterwards, she liked to work on the Royal Landrovers at her country estate.


She would not have the adoration she does from the British people if she were a phony like Obama.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 13, 2015 12:33 AM (0yhH4)

234 I remember reading a piece a while back by a woman who hung out with Elizabeth and her sister when they were staying at Windsor Castle back in WWII. She was good friends with them, at least during those years.

She wrote that while at the time, she didn't realize it, now she realizes they had rapid bugout plans for the royal family. And she wasn't included. If the Germans had started to bomb Windsor Castle, they would've whisked away the royals, but left her there to fend for herself.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 13, 2015 12:34 AM (dvuhZ)

235 The Royals play a good game of rumor and innuendo. And against each other a lot of the time.

Against us too!

Posted by: The Mets at November 13, 2015 12:34 AM (FkBIv)

236
POP, hate to be judgemental but, um, your firearm count is shamefully low.

Especially when there are cheap pickins' to be had.

Classic has what sound like nice P-64s for $229 (hear tell Wolfe spring kits can produce a decent trigger pull vs. the 10,000-lb pull that comes standard).

CMP still has service grade Garands for around $730 shipped.

Very good prices for nice tools that are also forms of industrial art.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2015 12:35 AM (QDnY+)

237 Ha ha. An ad for bacon below the header at the top of the page.

Posted by: Chinaacid at November 13, 2015 12:36 AM (atPLq)

238 The Average Gun Owner Now Owns 8 Firearms

I only have 5. Sorry guys, I'm bringing down the average.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2015 12:26 AM (zc3Db)


You are all poseurs.

Posted by: The lake where all those fishing accidents involving guns happen at November 13, 2015 12:36 AM (vBeA5)

239 231 >> Try torquing (or even worse, removing) the bolts on an Abrams, especially when removing the breech block.

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 12:32 AM (zyIlW)

Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.

Archimedes

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 12:37 AM (gyKtp)

240 231 "Some bolts on a car can go as high as 240 foot pounds."
-----------
Pffft.

Try torquing (or even worse, removing) the bolts on an Abrams, especially when removing the breech block.

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 12:32 AM (zyIlW)



I thought briefly of the consequences of not torquing a breech block to spec and got a shiver. Nasty. You really want someone doing that who knows what's what.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 12:38 AM (EzgxV)

241 grrr,
Megyn just had some whiney named Jose on complaining about deportation.

Get this, he "came out'" as an illegal alien 4 yrs ago. Still here and on national tv.

I've seen the daytime thread discussing this. All I'll say, to keep my sanity is WTF DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE WORD ILLEGAL!

There are NO "undocumented immigrants". And this azzhole should be deported immediately.

Posted by: Farmer at November 13, 2015 12:39 AM (o/90i)

242 so was this stupid suffragette movie timed so it could be released in conjunction with hillarys campaign? like that silly geena davis commander in chief show or madam secretary with duchovny's wife?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 13, 2015 12:39 AM (vb33c)

243 She wrote that while at the time, she didn't realize it, now she realizes they had rapid bugout plans for the royal family. And she wasn't included. If the Germans had started to bomb Windsor Castle, they would've whisked away the royals, but left her there to fend for herself.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 13, 2015 12:34 AM (dvuhZ)



You know I bet just about every single head of state and their family have the exact same sort of bugout plans even to this day.

Posted by: buzzion at November 13, 2015 12:39 AM (zt+N6)

244 Thanks, that's a good idea for me to consider.

You're welcome.

Besides, it's about time the horde did something for kittens, considering what we've done to them.

For those of you who don't get the reference: http://preview.tinyurl.com/mhbls2l

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 13, 2015 12:39 AM (YJmuy)

245 I said that's great, it's a valuable skill that will always be in demand. But here's the thing -- A mechanic needs a lot of upper body strength. Your brother, 5 years older, could not break loose headbolts torqued to a lowly 95 foot pounds. Some bolts on a car can go as high as 240 foot pounds. Some jobs just require muscle. And while I have wrestled you and you are definitely strong, you would have to turn it up quite a few notches to be an effective mechanic.

She's now a pediatric nurse.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 12:26 AM (gyKtp)


(removes paste-eating sock)


What automotive mechanics need, far more than upper-body strength, is brains. And some good grounding in electrical and mechanical theory. Doesn't matter how strong one is to torque bolts, if one doesn't know why torquing bolts matters. And any productive mechanic in a shop these days will be using air-operated tools to do the muscle work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 12:40 AM (0yhH4)

246 You know I bet just about every single head of state and their family have the exact same sort of bugout plans even to this day.
Posted by: buzzion at November 13, 2015 12:39 AM (zt+N6)

If you were a head of state with a bugout plan, where would you establish your government-in-absentia? Belize?

Posted by: CausticConservative at November 13, 2015 12:41 AM (5q6rm)

247 Caustic.

The MOST IMPORTANT THING to ask your surgeon, will be to ask 'em to insert a urinary catheter while you're out.

Waking up, you'll be "bursting" to piss, but the muscles won't get the signal to let go, and that bursting becomes a real thing. I didn't know to ask, and so had to endure the insertion in the cold light of day, after being wheeled back to my room. The pain was awful, but the relief was bliss itself.

Second, if you don't care for being laid out, powerless, defenseless and FREEZING HALF TO DEATH in a meat-locker impression of a recovery room, then politely threaten the nurses with mayhem if they fail to cover you with at least two, and maybe even three blankets while in the recovery room. They keep them damn things COLD.

Finally, as your Doc for a sample of the hardware he's installing. You'll want to look at a sample of what's causing you so much pain, so you'll have a target to cuss at.

Oh, and maybe print out my missives here and let your medical staff read 'em? A laugh, if nothing else.

Your break though, sounds just damn awful. I'm glad you had people around to help though. A break like that would leave you crawling for help.

I'm sure you'd have got there, but it wouldn't have been any fun in so doing.

Brother, just hang in there, and take these notes in with you. Hard learned on my end, so I hope it'll help some on yours.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 13, 2015 12:42 AM (McRlu)

248 Good nite morons & Maet see ya sunday

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 13, 2015 12:42 AM (gmP76)

249 240 ft. lbs?

RX-7 flywheel bolt, 350 ft. lbs.

Often people jump on an extension to loosen that nut.

The manual has a procedure for torquing by standing on a pipe extension.

Which I'm sure is a horrific OSHA violation.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 12:43 AM (bLnSU)

250 Mona Lisa Vito talks torque ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9svvLj2xbNc#t=0m25s

Posted by: dead-on balls accurate at November 13, 2015 12:44 AM (X1dxr)

251
245 These automotive mechanic fellers seem like a race of Gods roaming the earth. And they're so handsome too!
Hey AOP
I'm told we'll be almost completely running cordless instead of air power in a very few years.
I use students to do the muscle work hahahahaha

Posted by: MAx at November 13, 2015 12:45 AM (LAliD)

252
heheheh eh heheh... "pipe extension"... heheheh

Posted by: beavis at November 13, 2015 12:45 AM (EWg9n)

253 249 240 ft. lbs?

RX-7 flywheel bolt, 350 ft. lbs.

Often people jump on an extension to loosen that nut.

The manual has a procedure for torquing by standing on a pipe extension.

Which I'm sure is a horrific OSHA violation.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 12:43 AM (bLnSU)




That's retarded. I can understand torquing on an Abrams breech block, but a flywheel?!?!? That's just looking for a redesign with a second bolt.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 12:47 AM (EzgxV)

254 RX-7 flywheel bolt, 350 ft. lbs.

Often people jump on an extension to loosen that nut.

The manual has a procedure for torquing by standing on a pipe extension.

Which I'm sure is a horrific OSHA violation.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 12:43 AM (bLnSU)


And you are going to need some sort of brace to keep the entire engine from rolling over when you stand on that snipe. BTDT with VW engines, which use a similar flywheel nut.


Goes back to brains. A smart mechanic will figure out a way to achieve that torque, without putting himself, the job, or his tools at risk.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 12:47 AM (0yhH4)

255 209 86 Hell, I think I saw a poll where the majority wants Chuck to step down and let William and Kate have it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

True. Mostly because they don't want Camilla as queen. She doesn't even publicly use the title Princess of Wales.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 12, 2015 11:31 PM (zn5Cm)



Parliament can change the law of succession, but that won't do it.

Remember, the Queen is also the Head of State for Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Jamaica, Antigua and Barbuda, Belize, Papua New Guinea, St Christopher and Nevis, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Tuvalu, Barbados, Grenada, Solomon Islands, St Lucia and The Bahamas.

All of them would also have to approve the succession change.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's


Pillow, Staircase, some assembly - probably have to call on the hard drinking younger brothers, the fighter pilot who bangs porn stars and infantry kid who get naked in Vegas - I forget their actual names.

Posted by: Jean at November 13, 2015 12:48 AM (4U131)

256 Hey AOP
I'm told we'll be almost completely running cordless instead of air power in a very few years.
I use students to do the muscle work hahahahaha

Posted by: MAx at November 13, 2015 12:45 AM (LAliD)


Yeah, the cordless tools are indeed getting better.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 12:48 AM (0yhH4)

257 245 >> What automotive mechanics need, far more than upper-body strength, is brains. And some good grounding in electrical and mechanical theory. Doesn't matter how strong one is to torque bolts, if one doesn't know why torquing bolts matters. And any productive mechanic in a shop these days will be using air-operated tools to do the muscle work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 12:40 AM (0yhH4)

This too is of course true. There's been a lot of advancement in mechanic power tools as well in just the last 10 years. But it still takes muscle to rotate a set of tires, for example. There ain't, to date, a power lift option for that.

And I guess I didn't mention that I thought it great that she learn, for her own benefit, as much as possible about working on cars.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 12:50 AM (gyKtp)

258 You ought to see some of the "cheater bars" we rigged back in younger days on the farm with my father. One I remember was the big nut 2"+ holding the disk gangs on a cutting harrow. We didn't have a socket that big, so used this giant pipe wrench. It was made out of some light alloy, and it's still out there somewhere. You couldn't have lifted one that big made out of regular tool steel material.


Anyway, for a cheater bar, we used a long pipe on the end of that big wrench, and that was heavy enough. You had to arrange things just so you had that pipe at the right height to jump up and down on it to break that big nut loose.

Lug nuts on some big rear tractor wheels could get stuck as well, and even the 3/4" impact wrench we had wouldn't budge it, and I'd have to do the jumping up and down on the cheater bar with those as well.

Nearly killed myself a time or two. But that was my job, as a young 'un. Now that I'm old (and arthritic to boot), that's what the current crop of young 'uns is for. But they're too spoiled and stupid.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 13, 2015 12:52 AM (dvuhZ)

259 That's retarded. I can understand torquing on an Abrams breech block, but a flywheel?!?!? That's just looking for a redesign with a second bolt.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 12:47 AM (EzgxV)


No. It's no big deal. Flywheel is doweled to the crank, and one large central nut holds it on. VW air-cooled engines were that way from the get-go. It's called a "gland nut" and it contains a needle roller bearing to support the tip of the transmission input shaft. Actually, it's not a but, but a short stubby bolt that screws into a threaded recess in the end of the crank.


With a shop set up to do them, with the right fixtures, and such, they are trivially easy to work on.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 12:53 AM (0yhH4)

260 Try torquing (or even worse, removing) the bolts on an Abrams, especially when removing the breech block.
Posted by: SMFH
-------------

pfft.
675 ft-lbs

Posted by: Bell Helicopter Jesus Nut at November 13, 2015 12:53 AM (oFSUK)

261 POP, hate to be judgemental but, um, your firearm count is shamefully low.

Especially when there are cheap pickins' to be had.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2015 12:35 AM (QDnY+)


Not judgmental. You are absolutely correct. But I refuse to go through any more stupid background checks. I bought a bunch of 80% paperweights and some parts kits but haven't gotten around to any of them yet. Someday ....

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2015 12:54 AM (zc3Db)

262 197 I have nothing against Charles , the queen, etc. just hard to respect people who suck off the country's money and they don't do anything. All they do is ceremonial
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 13, 2015 12:11 AM (P4OkF)


Except that ritual and ceremony are not nothing and in fact are more important than we like to believe. In a sense the Queen (or King) is the living symbol of the nation's continuity going back centuries. And as a business proposition the royal family is highly profitable for England. The individual royals don't cost that much to support but they bring in a huge amount of tourism from their existence and ceremonial functions. If the royal family didn't exist, the UK would have had to invent them for marketing purposes...

Plus as Mark Steyn has pointed out before the Queen's role in a constitutional monarchy actually has some unique benefits not available in other democratic systems of government.

In theory she has the greatest political power of all yet she is least able to exercise *any* political power on a day-to-day basis. And as the only non-politics-based authority in the government she stands apart and acts as a fail-safe should there be a crisis or a parliamentary meltdown - and also as an implied threat should the government in power run off the rails. But the irony is that any political power she could possibly wield ultimately comes from the moral authority gained by being seen to be studiously non-political and acting solely in the country's best interests.

So while she may have the power to correct for a crisis or a dangerously bad government, she lacks the power to create a governing crisis in the first place or run the country into the ditch.

Posted by: Maetenloch at November 13, 2015 12:55 AM (pAlYe)

263 Hey you bunch of morons.

That is a crappy looking fecal swastika. Looks like they were so pathetic they could not produce enough matter to complete the attack. It is more of a swas or a half a swastika. Imbeciles. You hear of babies doing this in their cribs, but not old enough to leave home. bah. It is simple, do a little DNA and send this felon to punishment of cleaning septic tanks for a year.

I mean, if these little snowflakes, not to offend snowflakes that come from the sky and are beautiful...I prefer to call these simpering sad sacks of hemorrhoidal detritus, whining ninnys vs snowflakes. Or hippie wanna-bes, making their lives of purpose. Unfortunately we, nor they, have mostly no freaking idea what they are protesting against in 2015 vs the Age of Aquarius or Vietnam. And they are segregating themselves? This should go well for the white folks who want to join the parade. Um, I think the word might be segregation...something their ancestors had a legitimate complaint and reason to protest, ya know?

But, what do I know as I am grouchy as an old bear. Not sure I will have the social skillz to make it through the dinners I am expected to looking charming and witty and polite. I might throw food. Or, suddenly over drinks, have a primal scream or two. Because one may ask (and they effng know) I am going barking mad at the length of time it has taken to make this new house a home. Oh, i am grateful. Oh, I like the kind men who are doing this for me. But so distracting for months of noise and dust and, oh,hail, I freely admit they distract me and I am at a loss of what to do to pretend normalcy. I should riot right down the street waving a banner of sorts that I cannot take much more. Red Alert. Now husband is gearing up to paint the blasted bedroom over weekend and prior to MIL's gala (which requires gin for me to get through it even in good times...and i am unsocial because I have stuff to do you old bag. grrr. She will probably make a snarky comment and I will roar like a lion and drive off and leave husband to her saurbraten or whatever it is. She is/was a good cook but probably left out something important like the meat for consumption.

Oh why? Why can't I go on a retreat from everyone (ok, not morons). Just lie in bed with no people biddnig something or hammering or sawing or toxic fumes and dust. Why.

Ok, excuse the whiny Christy who needed to vent. This is the normal one, we are almost done. Well, sort of. Still have boxes and she keeps buying bulbs on sale she has to plant through snow. But otherwise she has not murdered yet. halp. I feel a rage overflowing coming soon (hopefully not at MIL and make a scene. Snap out of it you old bag.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at November 13, 2015 12:55 AM (yG5Nj)

264
heheheh eh heheh... "input shaft"... heheheheh

Posted by: beavis at November 13, 2015 12:56 AM (EWg9n)

265 This too is of course true. There's been a lot of advancement in mechanic power tools as well in just the last 10 years. But it still takes muscle to rotate a set of tires, for example. There ain't, to date, a power lift option for that.

And I guess I didn't mention that I thought it great that she learn, for her own benefit, as much as possible about working on cars.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 12:50 AM (gyKtp)


Seek, and ye shall find:


http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Tire-Wheel-dolly-with-wheel_523000362.html

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 12:58 AM (0yhH4)

266 to support the tip of the transmission input shaft.

Here we go with this "just the tip" nonsense again.

Posted by: traumatized gland nut at November 13, 2015 12:58 AM (X1dxr)

267 With a shop set up to do them, with the right fixtures, and such, they are trivially easy to work on.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 12:53 AM (0yhH4)


Yes, but, stereotypically, 1st and 2nd gen RX-7 owners believe it is illegal to spend money, and you will generally find one laying over the engine while the other pounds on a borrowed 54mm socket.

Also, for reasons unknown, they couldn't spell three words in a row correctly if you put a gun to their head.

Oddly, 3rd gen owners spend money like it was water. And they can spell.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 01:00 AM (bLnSU)

268 pfft.
675 ft-lbs

Posted by: Bell Helicopter Jesus Nut at November 13, 2015 12:53 AM (oFSUK)


There's a good reason for that. My ass might be riding in that helicopter, and i don't want the rotor to fly off without me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 01:00 AM (0yhH4)

269 Why would someone who purportedly supports a widely disrespected group create an image of *their own* symbol in feces?

I mean, that makes no sense. It makes miles more sense for it to be a hoax or a garden-variety looney.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 01:01 AM (bLnSU)

270 I am a Redneck Queen. I deserve and want a comfort dog like a corgi. I think I will "find" one soon. Or get rid of husband to do so. They are such cute doggies. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at November 13, 2015 01:02 AM (yG5Nj)

271 259 That's retarded. I can understand torquing on an Abrams breech block, but a flywheel?!?!? That's just looking for a redesign with a second bolt.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 12:47 AM (EzgxV)


No. It's no big deal. Flywheel is doweled to the crank, and one large central nut holds it on. VW air-cooled engines were that way from the get-go. It's called a "gland nut" and it contains a needle roller bearing to support the tip of the transmission input shaft. Actually, it's not a but, but a short stubby bolt that screws into a threaded recess in the end of the crank.


With a shop set up to do them, with the right fixtures, and such, they are trivially easy to work on.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 12:53 AM (0yhH4)



If it's doweled to the crank, why the ultra-high torque? It would seem to me that design elegance would have machined pins and dowels handle the tolerances, where studs, bolts, and nuts with standard torque (and maybe lock washers) would hold the machining together.



I'm not trying to be stupid here, but I may have to confess to having a natural aptitude for it.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:02 AM (EzgxV)

272 Well, pounds on the breaker bar for the 54mm socket.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 01:02 AM (bLnSU)

273 260 Try torquing (or even worse, removing) the bolts on an Abrams, especially when removing the breech block.
Posted by: SMFH
-------------

pfft.
675 ft-lbs

Posted by: Bell Helicopter Jesus Nut at November 13, 2015 12:53 AM (oFSUK)




And there's another one I can believe.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:03 AM (EzgxV)

274 So have I stumbled into AoS Car Talk forum?

54mm? Geez, monster nuts compared to the 36mm rear axle castle nuts on Type 1 VWs. Or the 27mm bolts used to secure the transmission.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:03 AM (0bkJJ)

275 If it's doweled to the crank, why the ultra-high torque?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:02 AM (EzgxV)


Think operating environment. High-vibration, large masses, high-torque, frequent speed changes, heat and cooling cycles.

It's murder on materials.

Once it starts vibrating, wear accelerates.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 01:06 AM (bLnSU)

276 Shit. I need to buy 7 more.

Funny thing. My middle child was born in November. If we were in Calif. he would have entered kindergarten (good old German word, if you try spelling it ...garden, the spellchecker warns you) a year earlier. As it is, he never had any trouble with school, until he dropped out of High School a week before he turned 18. I had to force him to go take the SAT. He scores a 1540. The fuckers (that is a technical term) take that as an indication of how wonderful the H.S. is.

I get a call from the H.S. My son has been truant. Want to know what I said?

"You drove him away! He is turning 18 within the week. You will do nothing about this." He had a Math teacher that penalized him for having the correct answer but not showing his work. He was doing it in his head. I called the teacher to discuss this. The Motherfucker NEVER returned my call. I was working 60 hour weeks at the time. What am I supposed to do? Call the Principal to conduct a joint meeting?

He now has a Master's Degree in Computer Science from one of the top Universities in the world. Between salary and bonuses and stock grants, he is earning over half a million for the next few years.

So. by all means, hold your children back. Hell, If I had to do it over again, all of them would be home-schooled.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 13, 2015 01:06 AM (1ijHg)

277 Yes, but, stereotypically, 1st and 2nd gen RX-7 owners believe it is illegal to spend money, and you will generally find one laying over the engine while the other pounds on a borrowed 54mm socket.

Also, for reasons unknown, they couldn't spell three words in a row correctly if you put a gun to their head.

Oddly, 3rd gen owners spend money like it was water. And they can spell.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 01:00 AM (bLnSU)


But cheap-ass owners, doing their own repairs, are, by definition, not mechanics. A person actually in the trade, and working in a shop, would have the right tools for the job. I'm sure most general service shops would not even attempt a tear-down on a Mazda rotary engine, but would refer customers to a dealer or a specialty independent shop, either of which would have the right tools.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 01:07 AM (0yhH4)

278 btw, that is half a million PER YEAR for the next few years.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 13, 2015 01:08 AM (1ijHg)

279 Pillow, Staircase, some assembly - probably have to call on the hard drinking younger brothers, the fighter pilot who bangs porn stars and infantry kid who get naked in Vegas - I forget their actual names.
Posted by: Jean at November 13, 2015 12:48 AM (4U131)


It goes QE2-Chuck-William-William's kids-Ginger Army kid that bangs anything- Chuck's brothers and sisters-then their kids-then Ralph.

Diana's sole purpose was to birth a couple of kids to provide heirs, she did so.

William's wife's sole purpose was to birth a couple of kids to provide heirs, she did so. She like Diana is now disposable.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 13, 2015 01:08 AM (Z7G74)

280 These nice people are ignoring you, Christy. It is time to take your special pill and go nite-nite. Here is your blankie, heating pad and some books. Let's go to your safe place toot sweet. xoxo you stinking morons.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at November 13, 2015 01:09 AM (yG5Nj)

281 Once it starts vibrating, wear accelerates.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 01:06 AM (bLnSU)


That explains a lot...

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 13, 2015 01:12 AM (vBeA5)

282 wa-po has a article about the GOP being in panic mode over Trump/Carson/Cruz.

The GOP NEEDS to be in panic mode.

We are pissed.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 13, 2015 01:13 AM (1ijHg)

283 *pulls from shelf Workshop Manual Volkswagen 1200*

Page M-4 just says to tighten the pulley nut after adjusting the play on the fan belt.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:13 AM (0bkJJ)

284 275 If it's doweled to the crank, why the ultra-high torque?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:02 AM (EzgxV)

Think operating environment. High-vibration, large masses, high-torque, frequent speed changes, heat and cooling cycles.

It's murder on materials.

Once it starts vibrating, wear accelerates.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 01:06 AM (bLnSU)




Again, in terms of elegance (and as the son of a make-a-nickel engineer), there is a design issue in using an overtorqued nut on something threaded to combat slippage or vibration in any dimension other than along the threaded whatzit. In other words, you shouldn't use extra torque on a nut to try to halt vibration or slippage in the plane where a washer might be, if the nut had a washer.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:14 AM (EzgxV)

285 If it's doweled to the crank, why the ultra-high torque? It would seem to me that design elegance would have machined pins and dowels handle the tolerances, where studs, bolts, and nuts with standard torque (and maybe lock washers) would hold the machining together.



I'm not trying to be stupid here, but I may have to confess to having a natural aptitude for it.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:02 AM (EzgxV)


I can tell you exactly why, and Merovign did as well. I had a VW Beetle once, and it developed a curious buzzing noise from the engine, every time I went from throttle-on to throttle off. The VW shop said, "flywheel bolt is loose; fix it now, or your engine is toast." So I took the engine out, and sure enough, the bolt was loose. And the dowel pin holes were ovaled out. So.... got the right size drill bit, and carefully drilled 4 new holes between the existing 4, through the flywheel, and into the crankshaft. Put the original dowels, which were hardened steel, into the new holes. Drilled the old holes out a touch oversize, and tapped in four new dowels cut from drill rod.


And torqued that bastard bolt tight! No further problems. Remember that a piston engine reciprocates, and the torque is delivered in pulses. The flywheel is needed to smooth out those pulses, which means you have reversing stresses on those dowel pins.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 01:16 AM (0yhH4)

286 Of Mice and Men.

My computer mouse has been becoming increasingly flaky. I was thinking that the driver may have been corrupted, but figured I'd take a look inside the mouse.

It's probably 10 years old, wired, with roller-ball. I like the feel of the buttons and scroll wheel better than others that I have tried.

Anyhow, here's pic of the inside. Did I mention that I have a cat? Turns out that the ball is perfect for transporting cat hair up into the body. Two views:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/om32cxq
http://preview.tinyurl.com/q7dtkl5

So we're done here right? Well, no.
The upper portion of the mouse is actually two parts. Might as well take a look in there too:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nbq5k7t

Total disassembly/cleaning got things under way again. I re-publish a pic of the perp:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/p2zkxtb



Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 01:17 AM (oFSUK)

287 Nite all, be well.
T.

Posted by: Farmer at November 13, 2015 01:17 AM (o/90i)

288 The GOPe wants the primary process for selecting the presidential candidate to work like the fucking sham they did for the Speaker of the House. Oh sure, you're allowed to have your preferred candidate run for the position and even get some votes, but unless its one of their preferred lapdogs coming out on top they are going to throw a tantrum and stop it until all you backwards stupid voters agree to choose one of the choices they want you to and not someone else.

Posted by: buzzion at November 13, 2015 01:17 AM (zt+N6)

289 274 >> So have I stumbled into AoS Car Talk forum?

Posted by: Anna

Well, it's that or discussing Days Of Rage II -- This Time We Are Really Stupid, with Bill Ayers beating his dick like it owes him money...

Or boobehs. That's always a fashionable topic. Or a fascinating one, n'est-ce pas?

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 01:18 AM (gyKtp)

290 The shit smear looks more like either Dalet (d) or Khaf (kh) from the Hebrew alphabet.

But of course all it really is, is a shit smear. Not from the Hebrew alphabet. Not a swastika. Just a shit smear. Anyone stupid enough to think that was a swastika in the making is insane.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 13, 2015 01:19 AM (wBZ4D)

291 The GOPe created Trump by being abject pussys.

Posted by: Jean at November 13, 2015 01:19 AM (4U131)

292 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 01:17 AM (oFSUK)

How was your cat going to use this to cause your untimely death?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 13, 2015 01:19 AM (1D4Ef)

293 Again, in terms of elegance (and as the son of a make-a-nickel engineer), there is a design issue in using an overtorqued nut on something threaded to combat slippage or vibration in any dimension other than along the threaded whatzit. In other words, you shouldn't use extra torque on a nut to try to halt vibration or slippage in the plane where a washer might be, if the nut had a washer.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:14 AM (EzgxV)


It's not "extra" torque; it's the right specified torque to do the job. No more, no less. Not wrong, just different.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 01:20 AM (0yhH4)

294 East Timor? The Comoros? Surinam? Liechtenstein?

I'm making a list of places I can flee to if, as the current Drudge headline predicts, the GOP follows through on its plan to draft Romney.

If I have to it through an entire Mitt Romney vs. Hillary Clinton campaign season, I'd even consider Chechnya or Anbar Province as preferable to having to endure 8 goddamn months of punditry on THAT accursed election.

Posted by: zombie at November 13, 2015 01:20 AM (jBuUi)

295 Well there's a dignity royalty. A majesty that precludes the likelihood of assassination. If you were to point a pistol at a king or a queen your hands would shakes as though palsied.

Barber: Oh I wouldn't point no pistol at nobody sir.

Well that's a wise policy, as wise policy. But if you did. I can assure you, if you did, that the sight of royalty would cause you to dismiss all thoughts of bloodshed and you would stand... how shall I put it? In awe. Now, a president... well I mean... why not shoot a president?

Posted by: English Bob at November 13, 2015 01:20 AM (REdlt)

296 Yeah, that starting Kindergarten late thing?

I can speak to that.

My birthday is in early January, so (and I remember this) I was almost a whole *year* older than some of the other kids in Kindergarten at Eastlake Elementary School.

I was supposedly ABLE to start at 1/2 days a year before at the hip new "open-plan" school but my Mom "kept me back" and taught me gardening and how to ride a bike without training wheels because she wanted me to go to a "real" school.

I won't deny that I may have had some advantages going through Pre-School (not Day-Care) but on day ONE of Kindergarten, I remember, very vividly, figuring out what I wanted (to be able to READ, no pictures just WORDS!!) and who was gonna help me get that.

Miss Aultley (She became Mrs. Brown when I was her 1 st grade pupil) and Robert.

Robert was a squirmy, smart, sensitive DUDE.

Eh, he was my first boyfriend even BEFORE I got a shiner taking on some 5th graders with him.

Posted by: Deety at November 13, 2015 01:22 AM (EmfUD)

297 285 If it's doweled to the crank, why the ultra-high torque? It would seem to me that design elegance would have machined pins and dowels handle the tolerances, where studs, bolts, and nuts with standard torque (and maybe lock washers) would hold the machining together.



I'm not trying to be stupid here, but I may have to confess to having a natural aptitude for it.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:02 AM (EzgxV)


I can tell you exactly why, and Merovign did as well. I had a VW Beetle once, and it developed a curious buzzing noise from the engine, every time I went from throttle-on to throttle off. The VW shop said, "flywheel bolt is loose; fix it now, or your engine is toast." So I took the engine out, and sure enough, the bolt was loose. And the dowel pin holes were ovaled out. So.... got the right size drill bit, and carefully drilled 4 new holes between the existing 4, through the flywheel, and into the crankshaft. Put the original dowels, which were hardened steel, into the new holes. Drilled the old holes out a touch oversize, and tapped in four new dowels cut from drill rod.


And torqued that bastard bolt tight! No further problems. Remember that a piston engine reciprocates, and the torque is delivered in pulses. The flywheel is needed to smooth out those pulses, which means you have reversing stresses on those dowel pins.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 01:16 AM (0yhH4)




Wouldn't the right solution have been to have hardened steel plates at the end of the crank and on the flywheel, have 8 pins in the first place, and use normal torque? I mean, to torque a nut hard enough to avoid slippage when your materials suck so bad that you're going to oval holes out is putting the the akSENT on the wrong SYLlable.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:22 AM (EzgxV)

298 Should I mention stretch-to-torque bolts here? Or bolts with breakaway heads.

Nah. Probably not.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 01:23 AM (oFSUK)

299 I should have A-paged this manual when I bought it... twice it mentions removing and installing crankshaft pulley and immediately goes to a blank page after mentioning to check for run-out. Where did I leave Muir's idiot book?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:23 AM (0bkJJ)

300 Assembly is the reverse.

Posted by: helpful Hayne manuals at November 13, 2015 01:24 AM (X1dxr)

301 Wouldn't the right solution have been to have hardened steel plates at the end of the crank and on the flywheel, have 8 pins in the first place, and use normal torque? I mean, to torque a nut hard enough to avoid slippage when your materials suck so bad that you're going to oval holes out is putting the the akSENT on the wrong SYLlable.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:22 AM (EzgxV)


In a word, no. There is nothing wrong with the materials used. If the nut is properly torqued, it will never come loose. And the torque figure is right in the standard ballpark for a fastener of that diameter and thread count.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 01:27 AM (0yhH4)

302 A Deety sighting! Quick, how many points is that?

Er... umm... I mean, good evening, Miss Deety.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 13, 2015 01:27 AM (YJmuy)

303 Wouldn't the right solution have been to have hardened steel plates at the end of the crank and on the flywheel, have 8 pins in the first place, and use normal torque? I mean, to torque a nut hard enough to avoid slippage when your materials suck so bad that you're going to oval holes out is putting the the akSENT on the wrong SYLlable.
Posted by: cthulhu
-----------------------

There is an astonishing pressure on engineers to produce things at minimum necessary cost. People go to great lengths to save ten cents here, a nickle there. I am totally confident that the VW engineers could have designed some more expensive way of doing things, that might have been less problematic, but one usually goes with the least expensive, seemingly reliable means.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 01:28 AM (oFSUK)

304 296 Yeah, that starting Kindergarten late thing?

I can speak to that.

My birthday is in early January, so (and I remember this) I was almost a whole *year* older than some of the other kids in Kindergarten at Eastlake Elementary School.

I was supposedly ABLE to start at 1/2 days a year before at the hip new "open-plan" school but my Mom "kept me back" and taught me gardening and how to ride a bike without training wheels because she wanted me to go to a "real" school.

I won't deny that I may have had some advantages going through Pre-School (not Day-Care) but on day ONE of Kindergarten, I remember, very vividly, figuring out what I wanted (to be able to READ, no pictures just WORDS!!) and who was gonna help me get that.

Miss Aultley (She became Mrs. Brown when I was her 1 st grade pupil) and Robert.

Robert was a squirmy, smart, sensitive DUDE.

Eh, he was my first boyfriend even BEFORE I got a shiner taking on some 5th graders with him.

Posted by: Deety at November 13, 2015 01:22 AM (EmfUD)




Hey, Deety -- it's great to see you. I've missed you when we've been at different times.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:28 AM (EzgxV)

305 I can't believe what I am seeing on TV! Cops gunning down nearly a dozen completely unarmed AfricanAmericans! #BlackulasMatter
Oh...and by the way, #CulturalAppropriation.

Posted by: Punching up at November 13, 2015 01:28 AM (NnnZy)

306 Old style mouse?

Q-tips and Rubbing alcohol.

Apply regularly.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 13, 2015 01:29 AM (1ijHg)

307 How was your cat going to use this to cause your untimely death?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster
---------------

Probably by tripping me down the basement stairs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 01:30 AM (oFSUK)

308 The shit smear looks more like either Dalet (d) or Khaf (kh) from the Hebrew alphabet.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 13, 2015 01:19 AM (wBZ4D)


Funny. I was going to say dalet or lahmed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2015 01:30 AM (zc3Db)

309 Posted by: Deety at November 13, 2015 01:22 AM (EmfUD)

Good to hear from you. No K for me, went into 1st grade as an old 6 y.o due to my b-day being just after the cutoff date. It was probably a good thing for me as well; my smart mouth still got me in a regular world of principal 'visits'.

I identify with Calvin, big time.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2015 01:30 AM (gyKtp)

310 Bust out the popcorn, boys and girls!

Video: ISIS Threatens to Attack Russia 'Soon, Very Soon'

Not to mention making theirs wives concubines and children ISIS slaves.

http://tinyurl.com/on2epwy

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 01:30 AM (zyIlW)

311 Should I mention stretch-to-torque bolts here? Or bolts with breakaway heads.

Nah. Probably not.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 01:23 AM (oFSUK)


The new hotness is torque-angle readings. You have a "protractor" of sorts, which fits between your torque wrench and the socket. You torque to X ft-lb, and then Y degrees beyond that. I own one, it wasn't too expensive. I think I needed it for head bolts on a Chevy 6.2 diesel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 01:31 AM (0yhH4)

312 Q-tips and Rubbing alcohol.

Apply regularly.


Posted by: Grampa
-----------------

Grampa, no Q-tips would have helped. Alcohol, perhaps.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 01:31 AM (oFSUK)

313 If you were to point a pistol at a king or a queen your hands would shakes as though palsied.

Thats why you use a pillow.

Posted by: Jean at November 13, 2015 01:32 AM (4U131)

314 The GOP could have the candidate that they want, if only the had Super-Delegates the way the Democraps have.

Too bad.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 13, 2015 01:32 AM (1ijHg)

315

Wouldn't the right solution have been to have hardened steel plates at the end of the crank and on the flywheel, have 8 pins in the first place, and use normal torque?


What would this cost?

Now, compare it to the current design.


Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2015 01:34 AM (FlRtG)

316

The new hotness is torque-angle readings.


ARP.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2015 01:34 AM (FlRtG)

317 I for one am ready to do what's necessary to help the 'ettes in their quest for perfect skin!

Posted by: bill-o at November 13, 2015 01:35 AM (AWwDY)

318 >>>I was going to say dalet or lahmed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 13, 2015 01:30 AM (zc3Db) <<<

I've met the Dalet Lahmed before. He wears some pretty cool pajamas.

Posted by: Joke Biden at November 13, 2015 01:35 AM (REdlt)

319 Russian women would be a step up in slave from Iraqi women.

Posted by: Jean at November 13, 2015 01:37 AM (4U131)

320 A 3ft breaker bar is a handy tool and an excellent improvised weapon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:37 AM (0bkJJ)

321 Anna,

Breaker bar was my bestest friend.

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 01:38 AM (zyIlW)

322 G'night, everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 13, 2015 01:38 AM (YJmuy)

323 And Playboy finally produces something worth reading

http://www.playboy.com/articles/yaya-han-cosplay-playboy

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:40 AM (0bkJJ)

324 Hasta la nite nite, Horde.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 13, 2015 01:40 AM (McRlu)

325 Hey everybody.

Well, I'm sure everyone's just on pins and needles wondering where I was last night so I'll share. First I made the mistake of dropping by Barnes & Noble to pick up a blu-ray because their Criterions are all half off... when I found out, they're also having a massive CD sale; turns out they had TONS of albums I've been meaning to add to my collection for even less than what Amazon is charging these days. I went completely apeshit nuts and bought 23 of the things; I think that's the biggest album buy I've ever made since sometime in 1989 right after Lakewood's Tower Records location opened up.

So by then it was dark and I had a few hours to kill, and even though I've been losing lately, decided to play some $100 no-limit hold'em at Hawaiian Gardens Casino. Long story short, I had one of the best nights I've had in a while and actually was able to pay for my CDs plus a nice little bonus with what I won. :-)

So, sorry to gloat, but had a great time last night. Anybody else had an evening where *everything* just seemed to go right for a change? Nice change of pace, gotta admit.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2015 01:41 AM (ntObR)

326 I recall using a 6' piece of pipe, slipped over a breaker bar, to loosen VW rear hub nuts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 01:41 AM (oFSUK)

327 303 Wouldn't the right solution have been to have hardened steel plates at the end of the crank and on the flywheel, have 8 pins in the first place, and use normal torque? I mean, to torque a nut hard enough to avoid slippage when your materials suck so bad that you're going to oval holes out is putting the the akSENT on the wrong SYLlable.
Posted by: cthulhu
-----------------------

There is an astonishing pressure on engineers to produce things at minimum necessary cost. People go to great lengths to save ten cents here, a nickle there. I am totally confident that the VW engineers could have designed some more expensive way of doing things, that might have been less problematic, but one usually goes with the least expensive, seemingly reliable means.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 01:28 AM (oFSUK)




As the Corporate Controller of several manufacturing firms, I am well aware of the gyrations engineers frequently resort to to chase imaginary hobgoblins.....while also being aware of where costs really lie. In one company, I changed all of our stock eighth-watt resistors to 1% metal film, because the stocking cost of having metal resistors in 1%, 2%, and 5% and carbon in 5%, 10%, and 20% was wildly more than the cost of the resistors -- not to mention the difference in size on layouts and the resultant effect on wave-solder quality. In the same place, I replaced a $5,000 pen plotter with a $20,000 laser plotter -- which decreased board design turnaround by an average of two days per board. You might imagine how quickly that paid off in our 2-man board layout group, to say nothing of R+D time.




I also realize that this was in a time when the emphasis was "design so it worked in the showroom, and we'll worry about maintenance later." As the son of a "make-a-nickel" engineer, however, I'm saying that elegant design would have made the high torque unnecessary, because the problems would have been solved in a more appropriate space. Once "released to the wild", there wasn't a graceful way back to elegance, however.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:42 AM (EzgxV)

328 They changed the line of succession rules to allow girls to get it in birth order, but it only applies to new children. If Kate's first kid would've been a girl, she would been in line behind William, a queen regnant in waiting. As it is now, she is right behind behind the male kid, but his children will before her.

Before, it was "male preference primogeniture", with all the males at the front, girls only getting if the males didn't make it for some reason.

It goes first born to first born, and you only back up one level if all the children at the end of the current chain are exhausted.

Thus for Harry to get it, William and all his children would have to die or otherwise abdicate. If Harry then croaked, it would back up to Chuck's next brother, Andrew.

Only the girls born after the new rule get the benefit of it. Anne still is behind all her brothers.

There have been all sorts of succession rules. I think with the Saudis, the throne passes through all the male brothers before going down to the next generation.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 13, 2015 01:42 AM (dvuhZ)

329 qdpsteve, uh so how is the quest for a 4K camera going?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:43 AM (0bkJJ)

330 Anna, LOL. Thanks for asking. I'm the type who's just got to blow a little bit of cash now and then, even when I'm saving for something else.

It's coming little by little. I am seriouslly thinking about some less expensive units. Will probably be able to rent and make a final choice this summer.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2015 01:44 AM (ntObR)

331 So, I propose a t-shirt that says, "I Am Not a Safe Space"

Posted by: Mike Hammer


Needs moar Brobdingnagian voice:

SAFE SPACES
ARE FOR
SERFS

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 13, 2015 01:45 AM (rSTkb)

332 qdpsteve,

Glad you had a nice evening.

As for the last time everything seemed to go right was back in September.

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 01:45 AM (zyIlW)

333 SMFH, not too long ago then. What happened?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2015 01:46 AM (ntObR)

334 Nothing important...just something.

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 01:47 AM (zyIlW)

335 weft-cut loop, another T-shirt idea:

THE ULTIMATE

[pic of an open, freshly dug grave]

SAFE SPACE

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 13, 2015 01:47 AM (ntObR)

336 Well, time to hit the hay.

Later y'all.

Posted by: SMFH at November 13, 2015 01:48 AM (zyIlW)

337 THE ULTIMATE

[ pic of an open, freshly dug grave ]

SAFE SPACE

Posted by: qdpsteve


Indeed. Saw that on the Twatter earlier.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 13, 2015 01:48 AM (rSTkb)

338 >>>A 3ft breaker bar is a handy tool and an excellent improvised weapon.


Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:37 AM (0bkJJ)<<<

Slid between the rail of the driver seat and console/transmission tunnel. Underneath the triple D-cell Mag-Lite.

Posted by: Justin Case at November 13, 2015 01:50 AM (REdlt)

339
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 13, 2015 12:52 AM (dvuhZ)

I snapped a 7/8" allen wrench with an approximately 10 foot cheater bar a few years ago. Sent me flying. I would have gone much further than the 5-6 feet I went but there was another injection molding machine behind me. I hurt for a few days.

Posted by: Bill R. at November 13, 2015 01:50 AM (jKUeC)

340 From HP Books How to Rebuild Your Volkswagen Air-Cooled Engine.
pg 57

"From the factory, gland nuts are tightened to 217 ft-lb, but some rebuilders use more like 300 ft-lb."

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:51 AM (0bkJJ)

341 I also realize that this was in a time when the emphasis was "design so it worked in the showroom, and we'll worry about maintenance later." As the son of a "make-a-nickel" engineer, however, I'm saying that elegant design would have made the high torque unnecessary, because the problems would have been solved in a more appropriate space. Once "released to the wild", there wasn't a graceful way back to elegance, however.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:42 AM (EzgxV)


What you fail to appreciate, is that the VW (and Mazda, who probably got it from NSU) flywheel fixing is an elegant design. One fastener holds the flywheel on, and that fastener also doubles as the pilot bearing. The crank doesn't have to have a flange formed on the end of it to accommodate six large cap screws. For VW, this enabled them to keep oil in the engine by using a large neoprene lip seal, pressed into the crankcase, with the lip riding on a machined collar on the flywheel. This, at a time when most competing engines used graphited rope pressed into grooves in the engine block and rear main bearing cap. The large torque requirement for the fastener is simply not a problem at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 01:52 AM (0yhH4)

342 I think I shall follow SMFH's lead. Time to catch some Z's for work comes early.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:53 AM (0bkJJ)

343 315

Wouldn't the right solution have been to have hardened steel plates at the end of the crank and on the flywheel, have 8 pins in the first place, and use normal torque?


What would this cost?

Now, compare it to the current design.


Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2015 01:34 AM (FlRtG)




We're talking historical design, not current. Second, you want to take two surfaces, machined flat, and try to clamp them together so hard that they have a meaningful amount of friction?!?!!? Really!???!?? Are we talking van der Waals forces, or does your machining suck?



And if four studs can oval holes when your outlandish over-torque isn't quite torqued enough, can you really say you were using the right materials? I mean, what if you'd machined the surfaces better, so there was half the friction at the specified torque?



Fundamentally, the overtorque looks and smells like a kludge. Increase the number of fixed studs and use a bearing plate of suitable material, and the problem goes away.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:54 AM (EzgxV)

344 ... though a 3ft bar might be a leeeetle long for that location.

Posted by: Justin Case at November 13, 2015 01:54 AM (REdlt)

345 Final parting thought on the VW air-cooled motor. For a design started in the 1930s for the Type 33, it certainly has had longevity. And was still used in a very modified form as late as the Type 4 or the Porsche 912.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:55 AM (0bkJJ)

346 341 I also realize that this was in a time when the emphasis was "design so it worked in the showroom, and we'll worry about maintenance later." As the son of a "make-a-nickel" engineer, however, I'm saying that elegant design would have made the high torque unnecessary, because the problems would have been solved in a more appropriate space. Once "released to the wild", there wasn't a graceful way back to elegance, however.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 01:42 AM (EzgxV)


What you fail to appreciate, is that the VW (and Mazda, who probably got it from NSU) flywheel fixing is an elegant design. One fastener holds the flywheel on, and that fastener also doubles as the pilot bearing. The crank doesn't have to have a flange formed on the end of it to accommodate six large cap screws. For VW, this enabled them to keep oil in the engine by using a large neoprene lip seal, pressed into the crankcase, with the lip riding on a machined collar on the flywheel. This, at a time when most competing engines used graphited rope pressed into grooves in the engine block and rear main bearing cap. The large torque requirement for the fastener is simply not a problem at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 01:52 AM (0yhH4)




OK, that gives me something to chew on.




I'll easily cop to being an inexperienced idiot, but only if things make sense.


Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2015 01:34 AM (FlRtG)




Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 02:01 AM (EzgxV)

347 Final parting thought on the VW air-cooled motor. For a design started in the 1930s for the Type 33, it certainly has had longevity. And was still used in a very modified form as late as the Type 4 or the Porsche 912.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 13, 2015 01:55 AM (0bkJJ)


Yes, Anna. And I think that gland nut design lasted right to the end, although I think they went to six dowels in the Type 4 engines. I had one apart once, from a '72 Transporter. Type 4's were trouble-prone, IMHO. 1600 dual-port is the best of the breed, but the old 36 horse were pretty durable, too, because they didn't make enough power (or enough heat) to destroy themselves.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 02:01 AM (0yhH4)

348 Don't know how the Arbalest reference snuck into 346. Apologies to Arbalest.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 02:06 AM (EzgxV)

349 I voluntarily submitted to their jurisdiction (I don't live or work in the District of Columbia, and nor does Mann) because I naively assumed they had the minimal competence to adjudicate a 270-word blog post in under half a decade.

-- Mark Steyn


We don't have the minimal competence to understand a 20-page US Constitution.

Posted by: Bureaucrats At All Levels of Government at November 13, 2015 02:15 AM (dcIVz)

350 A monkey, an animal-rights organization and a primatologist walk into federal court to sue for infringement of the monkey's claimed copyright. What seems like the setup for a punchline is really happening. It should not be happening.... [D]ismissal of this action is required for lack of standing and failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. Monkey see, monkey sue is not good law -- at least not in the Ninth Circuit.

Posted by: Louis D. Brandeis at November 13, 2015 02:15 AM (e8kgV)

351 A monkey, an animal-rights organization and a primatologist walk into federal court to sue for infringement of the monkey's claimed copyright. What seems like the setup for a punchline is really happening. It should not be happening.... [D]ismissal of this action is required for lack of standing and failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. Monkey see, monkey sue is not good law -- at least not in the Ninth Circuit.

Posted by: Louis D. Brandeis at November 13, 2015 02:15 AM (e8kgV)


If a chimp is a person, than wouldn't #MarriageEquality demand human-chimp marriages be recognized?

Species is just a social construct, after all...

Posted by: Fay Wray at November 13, 2015 02:19 AM (vBeA5)

352 And was still used in a very modified form as late as the Type 4 or the Porsche 912.
Posted by: Anna Puma
---------------

914 also, perhaps?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 02:20 AM (oFSUK)

353

Fundamentally, the overtorque looks and smells like a kludge.

It might be. Or it might be the realization that the original design still had some usable strength left.


Increase the number of fixed studs and use a bearing plate of suitable material, and the problem goes away.

Increasing the number of fixed studs in a circular pattern is a bit costly, pre-CNC. It's an extra operation, and to get all studs to handle equal loads, does require just a bit more precision. Given that the design is likely the original (i.e., 1936 or so), and was for The People's Car, the need to keep costs down was likely quite high.


346 No problem ... copy & paste issue, I suppose.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2015 02:21 AM (FlRtG)

354 331 So, I propose a t-shirt that says, "I Am Not a Safe Space"

Posted by: Mike Hammer

Needs moar Brobdingnagian voice:

SAFE SPACES
ARE FOR
SERFS


Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 13, 2015 01:45 AM (rSTkb)

Safe Spaces are for CHILDREN...

Posted by: BB Wolf at November 13, 2015 02:22 AM (qh617)

355 The first action of the Establishment of the International Court of Justice Climate and Mother Earth will be to sue POTUS Obama for his over use of Air Force One.
He has a carbon footprint that a Sasquatch could live in.

Posted by: Amelia Earhart at November 13, 2015 02:22 AM (e8kgV)

356
Havent you seen the corgis in the riding in the royal Jaguar? They must have some sort of booster seat so they can sit comfortably and still look out the window.

Sadly, as the corgis die off, the queen isnt replacing them any moe due to her own age.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 02:22 AM (iQIUe)

357 Posted by: Fay Wray at November 13, 2015 02:19 AM (vBeA5)


Hometown sweetheart of Cardston, Alberta!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 02:22 AM (0yhH4)

358 914 also, perhaps?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 13, 2015 02:20 AM (oFSUK)


Yeah, the 914-4. The 914-6 used a Porsche engine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 02:24 AM (0yhH4)

359 >>>He has a carbon footprint that a Sasquatch could live in.


Posted by: Amelia Earhart at November 13, 2015 02:22 AM (e8kgV)<<<

**resting active bitch face**

Posted by: Moochelle at November 13, 2015 02:26 AM (REdlt)

360 Safe Spaces are for CHILDREN...

Posted by: BB Wolf at November 13, 2015 02:22 AM (qh617)


*painst "Safe Space" on side of van*

Posted by: Harry Reid at November 13, 2015 02:29 AM (vBeA5)

361 I sent a safe into space once. Used too much nitro. Easy mistake to make.

Posted by: Jimmy the Safecracker at November 13, 2015 02:31 AM (0yhH4)

362 353

Fundamentally, the overtorque looks and smells like a kludge.

It might be. Or it might be the realization that the original design still had some usable strength left.


Increase the number of fixed studs and use a bearing plate of suitable material, and the problem goes away.

Increasing the number of fixed studs in a circular pattern is a bit costly, pre-CNC. It's an extra operation, and to get all studs to handle equal loads, does require just a bit more precision. Given that the design is likely the original (i.e., 1936 or so), and was for The People's Car, the need to keep costs down was likely quite high.


346 No problem ... copy & paste issue, I suppose.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2015 02:21 AM (FlRtG)



Apropos of @341, I'm still trying to imagine this thing as a pilot bearing. I mean, sure, a dessert topping and a floor wax.....I'm trying to find pix online.



Increasing the number of studs would certainly be impressive the first time -- though, at the time, German machinists were the best available.....but they'd have surely built jigs for production, which wouldn't have been that big of a deal.



If I get just a bit more information on this issue, it would be very interesting to bring up at the club. I could easily learn a thing or two.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 02:33 AM (EzgxV)

363 I... thought... space would be safe... but... all... those... hot alien chick's husbands... always... seem... to... catch up with me.

Posted by: James T. Kirk at November 13, 2015 02:35 AM (REdlt)

364 So to all youse parents out there, parenting is filled with pitfalls but delaying your kid when they're young is a good idea and separating them from their friends is not. Word to the wise.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 12, 2015 11:34 PM (Xo1Rt)


As a kid who never attended kindergarten but went straight into first grade, I can understand that first point. My parents sent me to Catholic grade school but didn't really have the money for kindergarten; first grade tuition was a whopping $5 a month. My Mom had a part time job at a Roses Five and Dime, not getting full time employment until after I entered first grade, so I wasn't 'home alone'. But I will say on my first day in first grade, I was sitting at my desk in one of the two first grade classrooms (in my school, each grade had two classrooms, one with a nun and the other with a lay teacher), the one with the lay teacher (Mrs. Linderman, how the hell I remember that I'll never know). So I was looking around the classroom, as it was a new experience, minding my own business and whistling softly out loud. Next thing I know, I'm taken out of her class and tossed into the nun's class. I guess that was the school deciding that I needed a little discipline. Traumatized ever since. Colonel Bogie's March sends me into fits of panic and paranoia.

As to your other point about friendship and children, I'm throwing the bullshit flag. Talk to every military brat who's had to move every two years. You either learn to make new friends or you don't and become isolated. And it's not like you're going to move back to your Dad's prior duty station to reignite friendships. Yet somehow those military dependents all survived such hardship.

Posted by: RickZ at November 13, 2015 02:41 AM (dcIVz)

365

Increasing the number of studs would certainly be impressive the first time ...

Doing it on a mill is easy, provided you always turn the cranks correctly ... every single time ... and therefore, it isn't quite that easy.

Mounting the flywheel on a rotary table on a mill is very much easier, and gives very much better results. There is some setup, but a guide pin might be enough. But it is an extra step.

Putting the same pattern on the end of a crankshaft flange ... for starters, it takes a larger mill to accommodate the length of the crank ... one hole, not a big problem ... 4, 5 or 6 ... more effort, and therefore not cheap.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2015 02:43 AM (FlRtG)

366 There's got to be an interesting history of all the stops/ starts/ headscratching/ teeth-gnashing and other shenanigans that went on at VW between the realization that maybe an air-cooled rear-engined design from the '30s wasn't the apotheosis of compact automotive engineering, and the eventual introduction of the Golf.

Any good books about all this?

Posted by: Kuebelwagen at November 13, 2015 02:46 AM (X1dxr)

367 Migrant summit in chaos as African countries REFUSE to take back Europe's failed asylum seekers

European Union offered more than £1billion in aid to African counterparts
In return, Africa would have to take back thousands of illegal migrants
But the controversial deal was rejected at a summit in Valletta, Malta

Posted by: President Barack "Unexpectedly" Obama at November 13, 2015 02:48 AM (e8kgV)

368 Happy-ish Friday morning, all y'all -

Posted by: Adriane the History Critic ... at November 13, 2015 02:48 AM (jnAIZ)

369 If I get just a bit more information on this issue, it would be very interesting to bring up at the club. I could easily learn a thing or two.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 02:33 AM (EzgxV)


Some pictures:


http://www.mofoco.com/category/VW_Flywheels/c131


You really have to overcome this notion that 250 foot-lbs is "overtorquing". It's not. The hex on that gland nut is 36 mm, and the threaded part has to be at least 28 mm, say an inch and a quarter. Standard torque for a fastener that size is going to be close to 200 ft-lbs, just to get enough stretch in the bolt for it to hold. Because that's why bolts hold things: they are stretched a little, and hold by tension. Stretched within their elastic limit, mostly, although as Mike mentioned earlier, there are "torque-to-yield" fasteners now, which get used once, and are thrown away, once removed. Head bolts on most recent engines are such, now.

Posted by: Jimmy the Safecracker at November 13, 2015 02:57 AM (0yhH4)

370 Off, sock. And then, off to bed for me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 13, 2015 02:59 AM (0yhH4)

371
364 So to all youse parents out there, parenting is filled with pitfalls but delaying your kid when they're young is a good idea and separating them from their friends is not. Word to the wise.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 12, 2015 11:34 PM (Xo1Rt)

As a kid who never attended kindergarten but went straight into first grade, I can understand that first point. My parents sent me to Catholic grade school but didn't really have the money for kindergarten; first grade tuition was a whopping $5 a month. My Mom had a part time job at a Roses Five and Dime, not getting full time employment until after I entered first grade, so I wasn't 'home alone'. But I will say on my first day in first grade, I was sitting at my desk in one of the two first grade classrooms (in my school, each grade had two classrooms, one with a nun and the other with a lay teacher), the one with the lay teacher (Mrs. Linderman, how the hell I remember that I'll never know). So I was looking around the classroom, as it was a new experience, minding my own business and whistling softly out loud. Next thing I know, I'm taken out of her class and tossed into the nun's class. I guess that was the school deciding that I needed a little discipline. Traumatized ever since. Colonel Bogie's March sends me into fits of panic and paranoia.

As to your other point about friendship and children, I'm throwing the bullshit flag. Talk to every military brat who's had to move every two years. You either learn to make new friends or you don't and become isolated. And it's not like you're going to move back to your Dad's prior duty station to reignite friendships. Yet somehow those military dependents all survived such hardship.

Posted by: RickZ at November 13, 2015 02:41 AM (dcIVz)



I was born in the People's Republic of Santa Monica. My dad mostly worked in downtown LA and had family in northern LA county; my mom mostly worked just south of LA and had family in Orange County (to the southeast of LA). Every so often, they'd have a fight where my mom would say, "XXXX, you haven't taken out the trash in two weeks and I'm tired of living next to your stupid relatives" -- to which, my dad would reply, "ok, let's move."




I was such a pain-in-the-ass in first grade (I just know you're all shocked), that I was sent off to second grade for reading and math and allowed to amuse myself with batteries, switches, and light bulbs the rest of the time. This caused quite a quandary at the end of first grade, being that I'd already topped-out 2nd-grade reading and math. This was solved by having me skip second grade, so that I could major in social failure in 3rd grade with a minor in physical inadequacy. That also meant that I've never-to-this-day mastered intermediate fingerpainting, with all that is entailed by that.



When I hit 30, I counted it up -- I'd lived in 30 different residences. I'm now in my 50s. Believe it or not, but some of you who I've never met face-to-face are among my most long-lasting friends.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:00 AM (EzgxV)

372

372 WDYE

Well, it's late ... and you show insufficient wit ... so I'll log off now.

Posted by: Manfred von Brauerei-Mehrwertsteuer, Member, The League of Ugly Shirted Gentlemen at November 13, 2015 03:12 AM (FlRtG)

373 372 I hope you are all enjoying "The Cooth Show".
I'm not.

Posted by: what do you expect? at November 13, 2015 03:07 AM (YVdt5)



Bring your own show, then. Maybe we'll enjoy that more.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:13 AM (EzgxV)

374 Cthulhu, over-elegant is as least as bad as "over-torqued," if not worse, unless you're BMW.

P.S. Torque to bolt sizes.

54mm nut's inside diameter about 1 1/4 IIRC.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nuxj476

Bolt torque varies widely by application. I believe this chart is for fasteners, if you were building a bridge the numbers could be several times this.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 03:16 AM (bLnSU)

375 Bring your own show, then. Maybe we'll enjoy that more.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:13 AM (EzgxV)


OK. I can take care of the cost of hookers... but you'll have to chip in on the blow...

Posted by: The [REDACTED] Hat at November 13, 2015 03:18 AM (vBeA5)

376 OK. I can take care of the cost of hookers... but you'll have to chip in on the blow...

But what if we have COPD?

Posted by: Adriane the Medical Critic ... at November 13, 2015 03:21 AM (jnAIZ)

377
374 Cthulhu, over-elegant is as least as bad as "over-torqued," if not worse, unless you're BMW.

P.S. Torque to bolt sizes.

54mm nut's inside diameter about 1 1/4 IIRC.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nuxj476

Bolt torque varies widely by application. I believe this chart is for fasteners, if you were building a bridge the numbers could be several times this.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 03:16 AM (bLnSU)




Nice, nice, nice -- a peek into a world I've never known. OK, Mero schooled me some. Thanks, Mero!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:22 AM (EzgxV)

378 The 27% totalitarian figure is just for global warming, if asked about say jailing someone who denies gay rights I'm sure it would be 4
65%
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2015 03:23 AM (gviQk)

379 Oh, and the point was that a complex solution is wrong for this application, because it's a non-redundant solution. If something fails it helps other things fail.

One big burly part is going to outlast 8 or 10 finer parts.

I suspect that a lot of options have been tried .

In addition, the rotary eccentric shaft (like a crankshaft) has a small end diameter, and balance is critical. The end housing also has to be removed past its end, so a large mounting area means a multi-part end housing or a multi-part eccentric shaft.

Each interface is another possible source of failure.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 03:23 AM (bLnSU)

380 Shiiiiiiiiit.

I can bring the blow and Val-U-Rite, Hat.
As long as you agree to hang Ira from a branch like a pinata so we can take turns hitting her with a broomstick.
Cthulhu will have to provide the hookers.

Posted by: Eye Of Knut at November 13, 2015 03:24 AM (qe1E5)

381 Also here is Portland Bolt's chart, this is more "test to failure" information and is the several or tens of times higher chart I mentioned.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ocyn9yj

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 03:26 AM (bLnSU)

382 Okay, so, wait, someone's paying for hookers?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 03:27 AM (bLnSU)

383 P.S. whole textbooks have been written on bolts and fasteners. It's actually quite fascinating if you're bored.

Some 100+ year old textbooks have a lot of practically-tested details that can be surprising.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 03:31 AM (bLnSU)

384 Current Ira list: "Posted by: what do you expect? at November 13, 2015 03:07 AM (YVdt5)" [already banned], "Posted by: Eye Of Knut at November 13, 2015 03:24 AM (qe1E5)" [5, 4, 3, 2.....]



You never want to go full previously-banned-nic.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:32 AM (EzgxV)

385 I started kindergarten at 4, as far as I know I was the second youngest in every grade. I went into the military after graduation and was still 17 when I got to England. Life is tough, there are no safe spaces kiddies.

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2015 03:33 AM (gviQk)

386 Silly me, it's Friday the 13 my hopefully lucky day.
I need to get moving and should try to go to work early.

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2015 03:35 AM (gviQk)

387 Um, not so, sir.
Not every name you don't recognize is Ira, man. Don't go full-on MWNF...

Posted by: Eye Of Knut at November 13, 2015 03:36 AM (qe1E5)

388 383 P.S. whole textbooks have been written on bolts and fasteners. It's actually quite fascinating if you're bored.

Some 100+ year old textbooks have a lot of practically-tested details that can be surprising.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 03:31 AM (bLnSU)




There is much more that is known than is in useful rules-of-thumb......and that's the problem, 'cause when you're trying to make a widget, you don't want to overdesign each screw. My rules-of-thumb said that previous examples were over-torqued, but you provided me examples that the rules were different on larger nuts. I'll have to remember this.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:38 AM (EzgxV)

389 OK. I can take care of the cost of hookers... but you'll have to chip in on the blow...

But what if we have COPD?

Posted by: Adriane the Medical Critic ... at November 13, 2015 03:21 AM (jnAIZ)


Speedballs for everyone!

Posted by: The Needly Hat at November 13, 2015 03:38 AM (vBeA5)

390 I can bring the blow and Val-U-Rite, Hat.
As long as you agree to hang Ira from a branch like a pinata so we can take turns hitting her with a broomstick.
Cthulhu will have to provide the hookers.

Posted by: Eye Of Knut at November 13, 2015 03:24 AM (qe1E5)


Ira is a chick?

How many cats does she own?

Posted by: The Unfeline Hat at November 13, 2015 03:39 AM (vBeA5)

391 Interesting note on the fallibility of the web - searches for the world's largest wrench yield many smaller wrenches, but not the QEII's propeller wrench, whose internal diameter is something over four feet.

I have seen pictures of it on the web, but don't ask a search engine!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2015 03:40 AM (bLnSU)

392 387 Um, not so, sir.
Not every name you don't recognize is Ira, man. Don't go full-on MWNF...

Posted by: Eye Of Knut at November 13, 2015 03:36 AM (qe1E5)



You brought his name into the discussion -- you should know better than to do that. How's Tucker?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:41 AM (EzgxV)

393 Jihad JOhn may have gotten whacked by a drone strike reported on ABC news

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2015 03:43 AM (gviQk)

394 You can barely make out the vertical part of the swastika. Line segments are not straight or even enough in their spacing. It should also be rotated by 45 degrees. All in all a very lousy effort.

Rdb will probably make an art thread out of it.

Posted by: fecal art history major at November 13, 2015 03:44 AM (/HwZG)

395
392 387 Um, not so, sir.
Not every name you don't recognize is Ira, man. Don't go full-on MWNF...

Posted by: Eye Of Knut at November 13, 2015 03:36 AM (qe1E5)



You brought his name into the discussion -- you should know better than to do that. How's Tucker?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:41 AM (EzgxV)




Heh. I was born at 3:41 PM in November.....

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:45 AM (EzgxV)

396 Speedballs for everyone!
Posted by: The Needly Hat
--------------------
I think I'll sit this round out - not feel8nflg so well.
I'll be right over here...

Posted by: John Belushi at November 13, 2015 03:45 AM (qe1E5)

397 Vox Media Bans Staff From "Mansplaining"

http://tinyurl.com/o6zj2d7

Posted by: Poe's Hat at November 13, 2015 03:47 AM (vBeA5)

398 So, Jihadi John was droned. Unfortunately, no pictures. Did you see the terrorist in the sidebar getting hit by a rocket?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 03:50 AM (iQIUe)

399 The little domestic terrorists dont want poop swastika's investigated (they know who did it) they want to use it as an excuse to impose mandatory "diversity" training on everyone.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 03:51 AM (iQIUe)

400 I should get Idiocracy and Tropic Thunder......after the CPE gets done.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:52 AM (EzgxV)

401 Why didn't they do a CBF? That would have been more timely and topical. They should publish a guidebook for aspiring activists. "Take metamucil 12 hours before you plan to do the deed. But avoid alcohol consumption, else the medium will be too watery, and may be expelled prematurely. Corn or spinach may be consumed to enhace the richness of the palette."

Posted by: fecal art history major at November 13, 2015 03:56 AM (/HwZG)

402 398 So, Jihadi John was droned. Unfortunately, no pictures. Did you see the terrorist in the sidebar getting hit by a rocket?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 03:50 AM (iQIUe)




SMFH brought one last night. Jihadi interview from some jihadi propagandist, early in the questioning, there's the "fffft" of a mortar......in the middle of the responses, jihadist looks upwards while continuing to talk.....shoulda used the opportunity to relocate.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 03:58 AM (EzgxV)

403
I dont see any swastika either. It looks like a seven.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:01 AM (iQIUe)

404 I don't know how to contact tips to ONT but maybe a week ago saw a bomber literally cut in half and talking, to funny.

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2015 04:04 AM (gviQk)

405 I dont see any swastika either. It looks like a seven.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:01 AM (iQIUe)


It's faint, but it is definitly there.

Posted by: The Poop-free Hat at November 13, 2015 04:08 AM (vBeA5)

406 The little domestic terrorists dont want poop swastika's investigated (they know who did it) they want to use it as an excuse to impose mandatory "diversity" training on everyone.
Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang!
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What would the counselor say at such a session? "Now you white folk may think it's harmless or funny to draw swastikas in poop in the black dorm bathroom. But that causes a lot of pain and anxiety. It's unsanitary and hurtful to them. How would YOU like it if someone drew a poop swastika on YOUR bathroom, you hypocrites? Just don't do it."

Anyone who would do it already knows the arguments of the other side, but doesn't care anyway. So I predict such seminars would not reduce the frequency of these attacks.

Posted by: fecal art history major at November 13, 2015 04:09 AM (/HwZG)

407 A seven is part of a swastika, you gotta judge intent.

Posted by: Jean at November 13, 2015 04:13 AM (4U131)

408 good morning fine people of Moronia. Or is that Moronland? Moronlandia? Fuck. Hope everyone is having a good night. And no shit, it's a Friday the 13th. Fuck it, I wear my lucky pin at all times.Plus my shoe ritual. I gotta check though if I'm up to date on payments to the curandero in the Chihuahuan desert I keep on retainer for "just in case".

Posted by: fastfreefall at November 13, 2015 04:13 AM (q4rKY)

409 It's faint, but it is definitly there.
Posted by: The Poop-free Hat at November 13, 2015 04:08 AM (vBeA5)

=========
I dont see it.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:15 AM (iQIUe)

410 Cripes.

Q: So what do you do for a living?
A: I unload the Queens pooches and luggage to whatever event she is flying too.


There are days it is good to be an American.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at November 13, 2015 04:18 AM (XgfBI)

411
Any one else getting excited about migrating to Peruvia to sit out the great Yellowstone Caldera Eruption/Asteroid Apocalypse?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:19 AM (iQIUe)

412 How about signs saying, "This bathroom is a poo free zone".

Oh wait... that won't work. It's a bathroom.

Posted by: fecal art history major at November 13, 2015 04:19 AM (/HwZG)

413 What's the difference between an asteroid and a meteor? Size?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:20 AM (iQIUe)

414 How about signs saying, "This bathroom is a poo free zone".

Oh wait... that won't work. It's a bathroom.

Posted by: fecal art history major at November 13, 2015 04:19 AM (/HwZG)


That's discrimination!

Posted by: Mr. Hankey at November 13, 2015 04:20 AM (vBeA5)

415 413 What's the difference between an asteroid and a meteor? Size?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:20 AM (iQIUe)



Meteors and meteorites interact with the atmosphere, as in meteorology. Asteroids are just out there somewhere.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 04:21 AM (EzgxV)

416 >>>The really courageous man is he who defies tyrannies young as the morning and superstitions fresh as the first flowers.

Don't lecture me about courage. Get back to us when you have a vagina, G. K.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at November 13, 2015 04:22 AM (/HwZG)

417 What's the difference between an asteroid and a meteor? Size?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:20 AM (iQIUe)


It is whatever it feels like it is, and to deny that makes you a H8r!!1! Don't you go imposing your "astronomical norms" on it!!1!

Posted by: Critical Space Theory Professor at November 13, 2015 04:22 AM (vBeA5)

418 Just 4 guns?

A paltry number.

Posted by: NRA at November 13, 2015 04:23 AM (XgfBI)

419
I think caring for the Queen's dogs would be an excellent job. It was funny to see one of them arrive in a separate Jaguar to an event. Just sat, regally, in the back seat, watching all the people waving and cheering. I saw no snot marks on the inside window, either. I never minded snot marks. I assume b/c dogs are superior they can smell thru glass and were just doing their job - sniffing.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:25 AM (iQIUe)

420
So, the asteroid that killed the dinos and half of life on earth, was a mere 6 miles in diameter? Sheet!

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:27 AM (iQIUe)

421 whatever happened to just plain ol' graffiti and shithouse poetry in public shitters?

Alas, "here I sit all broken hearted..."

Bunch of lazy assed college people

Posted by: fastfreefall at November 13, 2015 04:28 AM (q4rKY)

422 yall have a good a.m. Sun's high enough for the mtb ride. I'm flashing all the V for victory. Fuck yes!

Posted by: fastfreefall at November 13, 2015 04:32 AM (q4rKY)

423 LOL: Queer Vegan Witch Accuses Radical Feminists of "Anti-Trans Violence"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfqb6bq

Posted by: The Popcorn Munching Hat at November 13, 2015 04:32 AM (vBeA5)

424 Remember when ace posted that awful video of the campus bitch slapfest of gays, lesbians, trannies arguing? It was scary. But you have to admit that trannies are trying to muscle in on womyn territory. Look at Jenner who is now getting freaking award as woman of the year who thinks the most important thing about being a woman is wearing a dress. I'm waiting to see more trannie sports stars, winning titles in women categories.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:38 AM (iQIUe)

425 Night all.

Here is "Inward Debate" by Kylesa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRcRmXq0-f0

BTW, Happy Friday the 13th

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 13, 2015 04:40 AM (vBeA5)

426 All these trannies is going to knock out some of the drug testing they do.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 13, 2015 04:40 AM (Xo1Rt)

427
I still wd like to know how you can be a trannie and take all the drugs they take and be active duty.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:44 AM (iQIUe)

428  I saw no snot marks on the inside window, either. I never minded snot marks. I assume b/c dogs are superior they can smell thru glass and were just doing their job - sniffing.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang!

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They were there all right, they were just very faint, like the swastika. And I would think that's a very anxiety filled job. Anything happens to those corgis, even if it's not his fault, the queen might have him flogged and thrown in the tower.

Posted by: Snotto Marx at November 13, 2015 04:45 AM (/HwZG)

429 425 Night all.

Here is "Inward Debate" by Kylesa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRcRmXq0-f0

BTW, Happy Friday the 13th

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 13, 2015 04:40 AM (vBeA5)




Hopefully, a Moron snags the $120M cash Mega jackpot. That would light-up the Horde.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 04:46 AM (EzgxV)

430 What if they drew a smilie face in poop? Who gets fired?

Posted by: Jean at November 13, 2015 04:48 AM (4U131)

431 Jeb!

Last?!

Posted by: the really really big money that wants Jeb! to win, and rinsed penis...gope at November 13, 2015 04:50 AM (KpIPy)

432 I still wd like to know how you can be a trannie and take all the drugs they take and be active duty.
Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang!
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It's just estrogen. It wouldn't cause any cognitive impairment, any more than, say birth control pills, which are also estrogen.

The main effect of estrogen is to eliminate hair loss and change fat distribution to breasts thighs and buttocks, rather than the belly. It also makes men sterile.

Pre-ops may also take androgen blockers such as spironolactone and finasteride, but again, that should have no cognitive impairment.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at November 13, 2015 04:52 AM (/HwZG)

433 Billions of years ago, there was non stop lava flows covering the earth. Why'd they stop?

Princess Anne's dog bit two boys and attacked one of the queen's corgis resulting in it being put down. I think I would have tried to save the little guy.

Anyway, Anne's not in the tower tho she probably shd be.

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:53 AM (iQIUe)

434 430 What if they drew a smilie face in poop? Who gets fired?

Posted by: Jean at November 13, 2015 04:48 AM (4U131)




Based on those photos, we're talkin' some serious amateur-hour poop here. On the floor, on the handle?......how can you be constructing a serious poop narrative if you cannot keep it on the wall in the general vicinity of your poop statement? Asswipe.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 04:54 AM (EzgxV)

435 Then why do trannies act like they have to have these drugs? Why were they so necessary to Manning's health that a court ordered them?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:56 AM (iQIUe)

436
So, what did the poop painter use to paint in poop? His finger?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:57 AM (iQIUe)

437 Asswipe.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 04:54 AM (EzgxV)


I'll bet 10 Hillarity! lies to a Bill Clinton intern that the perp didn't wipe his ass. And I know it's a he because no woman I've ever known is all that big on playing with shit, even mothers with babies in diapers.

Posted by: RickZ at November 13, 2015 04:59 AM (dcIVz)

438 436
So, what did the poop painter use to paint in poop? His finger?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:57 AM (iQIUe)



As noted above @371, I lack the skills to properly analyse such art.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 05:00 AM (EzgxV)

439
If hormones had no cognitive impairment, how to you explain women acting nuts every month?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 05:02 AM (iQIUe)

440 So, what did the poop painter use to paint in poop? His finger?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 04:57 AM (iQIUe)


How else to explain shit on the bathroom door handle?

Seeing as how the pooptika is drawn so bad, you can tell the perp never enjoyed the fun of finger paints as a smaller child (he's just bigger child now). I remember as a kid having four jars of colored finger paint. What I learned, upon pain of death from my Mom, was to finger paint only on paper.

Posted by: RickZ at November 13, 2015 05:05 AM (dcIVz)

441 LOL: Queer Vegan Witch Accuses Radical Feminists of "Anti-Trans Violence"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfqb6bq

Posted by: The Popcorn Munching Hat
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That's a dude. Wouldn't he be a queer vegan warlock?

It's disturbing, he looks so normal, but you realize 99% of what resides between his ears is irrational, sick, self destructive, harmful to society, or just plain useless. His mind rendered crippled by the left. Little better than a vegetable at this point, and nothing can be done about it. A walking talking Terry Schiavo.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 13, 2015 05:06 AM (/HwZG)

442 Yeah, it looks like ISIS is going to have to find another chief executioner and propagandist. Poor babies have to stop catching those hellfire missiles with their teeth. Buy that drone pilot a beer!

Posted by: goon at November 13, 2015 05:07 AM (gy5kE)

443 442 Yeah, it looks like ISIS is going to have to find another chief executioner and propagandist. Poor babies have to stop catching those hellfire missiles with their teeth. Buy that drone pilot a beer!

Posted by: goon at November 13, 2015 05:07 AM (gy5kE)


[ISIS video] "Praise be to Allah....." [commence atrocity]



[ISIS video] "Praise be to Allah....." [commence atrocity]



[ISIS video] "Praise be to Allah....." [commence atrocity]



[ISIS video] "Praise be to Allah....." [commence atrocity]



[non-ISIS video] "Oh, shit....." *BOOM*



Yeah, I'm really gonna miss Jihadi John. Too bad, so sad.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 05:18 AM (EzgxV)

444  Then why do trannies act like they have to have these drugs? Why were they so necessary to Manning's health that a court ordered them?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang!
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That's just ideologically driven bullshit from the court. He doesn't need to to take them, as if he'd go through withdrawl or something, without them. It's not like they're addictive.

He slso claims he needs to grow his hair long. That's equally necessary for his "health".

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 13, 2015 05:20 AM (/HwZG)

445 If hormones had no cognitive impairment, how to you explain women acting nuts every month?

Posted by: Gangster Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 13, 2015 05:02 AM (iQIUe)

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Please forgive me! I apologize. I was strung out on estrogen. Yeah, it was that time of the month.

Posted by: Melissa Click at November 13, 2015 05:29 AM (/HwZG)

446 Well, it's late at night, so.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=615q8Xldr14

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 05:34 AM (EzgxV)

447 Yeah, I'm really gonna miss Jihadi John. Too bad, so sad.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 05:18 AM (EzgxV)

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Good thing abou ISIS is that it encourages these people to self deport. Bad thing is that it encourages faux refugees to attempt to attempt to self import.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 13, 2015 05:34 AM (/HwZG)

448 test

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 13, 2015 05:44 AM (/HwZG)

449 test?

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 13, 2015 05:45 AM (/HwZG)

450 test b c n

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 13, 2015 05:49 AM (/HwZG)

451 NOOOOooooo!!!!!!!!!

I'm struck out!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: RickZ at November 13, 2015 05:50 AM (dcIVz)

452 test test

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 13, 2015 05:50 AM (/HwZG)

453 [/strike]

Posted by: RickZ at November 13, 2015 05:50 AM (dcIVz)

454 I saw the Growing Up tour -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCYXL86rdug -- from an amazingly close vantage.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 05:50 AM (EzgxV)

455 And I feel really emboldened.

Posted by: RickZ at November 13, 2015 05:51 AM (dcIVz)

Posted by: RickZ at November 13, 2015 05:51 AM (dcIVz)

457 Now do italics + bold + strike

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at November 13, 2015 05:56 AM (WVsWD)

458 Yo Peeps!

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2015 06:01 AM (AfsKp)

459 I didn't watch the Jets/Bills game but heard comments about the uniforms. I'm watching NFL Network now and they are talking about the game, obviously. They looked like CFL uniforms. It looked like Saskatchewan vs. Calgary.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 13, 2015 06:05 AM (yIgr7)

460 italics bold strike underscore

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2015 06:05 AM (AfsKp)

461 Ya know sumptin'? Underscoring 'underscore' really underscores the point.

Posted by: Guy Who Loves The Word 'Underscore' at November 13, 2015 06:08 AM (dcIVz)

462 At least it wasn't me.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 06:11 AM (EzgxV)

463 I believe there might be a vacancy or two in the barrel.....

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2015 06:12 AM (EzgxV)

464 G'morning all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 13, 2015 06:15 AM (ptqRm)

465 Vacancy? What do you have to do, copy the whole page into a single comment?

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2015 06:16 AM (AfsKp)

466 test
hmmm......

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at November 13, 2015 06:17 AM (WVsWD)

467 Nice story about gene Roddenberry, but eff the oatmeal.

He's part of the 'Columbus was worse than hitler' social justice worrier crowd.

He can eat a bag of sacrificial Aztec dicks

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at November 13, 2015 07:18 AM (RKQ/v)

468 Poop splatter on the floor and on the toilet door handle and anti-Semitic scrawl on the walls?

That's just about every toilet in the Islamic world.

Except maybe Saudi Arabian prince's palaces. I bet they use toilet paper instead of their left hand.

Posted by: jade_crayon at November 13, 2015 07:19 AM (g9SkC)

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