Overnight Open Thread (3-25-2015)

Busy. Been drinking. Not interested in your complaints. Just be glad you're not getting a punishment ONT. Or my oft threatened Yoko Ono Retrospective Week.

6 Harsh Truths That Will Make You a Better Person

It's brutal, rude, and borderline sociopathic, and also it is an honest and accurate expression of what the world is going to expect from you. The difference is that, in the real world, people consider it so wrong to talk to you that way that they've decided it's better to simply let you keep failing.

...Alec Baldwin was nominated for an Oscar for that movie and that's the only scene he's in. As smarter people have pointed out, the genius of that speech is that half of the people who watch it think that the point of the scene is "Wow, what must it be like to have such an asshole boss?" and the other half think, "Fuck yes, let's go out and sell some goddamned real estate!"

Also:

Is Baldwin's character a jerk or a savior? The genius of the story is that half of you will have completely misunderstood it, and you like mint chutney and food stamps. The secret is at the beginning, at 0:15, where it is revealed that Alec Baldwin doesn't feel any of this, the whole speech is a work. If you were in that room, some of you would understand this as a work, but feed off the energy of the message anyway, welcome the coach's cursing at you, "this guy is awesome!"; while some of you would take it personally, this guy is a jerk, you have no right to talk to me like that, or-- the standard maneuver when narcissism is confronted with a greater power-- quietly seethe and fantasize about finding information that will out him as a hypocrite. So satisfying.


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1 Woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 10:50 PM (YOPoU)

2 Yay ONT time to read

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 10:50 PM (YOPoU)

3 Trifecta

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 10:51 PM (YOPoU)

4 Is it something I said?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 10:51 PM (YOPoU)

5 Where is everyone ? The camps?,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 10:52 PM (YOPoU)

6 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 25, 2015 10:52 PM (KCxzN)

7 Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam
Lovely Spam, Wonderful Spa-a-a-a-am

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 10:52 PM (KH1sk)

8 'Ey, what's all this, then?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2015 10:52 PM (T1005)

9 NINE!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 25, 2015 10:53 PM (16bOT)

10 Willowed... for $500 Alex

Posted by: Yip at March 25, 2015 10:53 PM (84SRe)

11 So..........

Posted by: Barry O. at March 25, 2015 10:53 PM (I8yfx)

12

Ugh. Alex Baldwin is in the new Mission: Impossible.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 25, 2015 10:53 PM (ko4zy)

13 Nice OOT, Maet!


Oh no, no Yoko, okey doke?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 10:54 PM (NeFrd)

14

So...
what's more better parmesan style?

Thick-cut eggplant or thinly cut.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 25, 2015 10:54 PM (ko4zy)

15 Ugh. There's a new Mission Impossible?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 10:54 PM (KH1sk)

16 "Where is everyone ? The camps?,"



Talking recipes down below.

Posted by: Barry O. at March 25, 2015 10:54 PM (I8yfx)

17 But, what about the OWLS???

*dodges spitballs*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 10:55 PM (FsuaD)

18 Alec used to be hot but now he's just fat and pissy.

Posted by: NCKate at March 25, 2015 10:55 PM (D0HJ3)

19
The answer is: thick cut eggplant, but only if it's cooked tender but not mushy

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 25, 2015 10:55 PM (ko4zy)

20 Fuck. Get away, Barry!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 10:55 PM (I8yfx)

21 I remember when Alec was hot. Now he's just....bloated and f*cked up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 10:56 PM (FsuaD)

22 "But, what about the OWLS???"


Got get that sucker, Jane.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 10:56 PM (I8yfx)

23 Wow.

Turns out all you had to do was knock.

Posted by: Garrett at March 25, 2015 10:56 PM (YnCWt)

24 AREC BARWIN??????

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 10:56 PM (MDgS8)

25 No Yoko ..EVER!

Posted by: mpfs, sad today at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (si/E8)

26 It's looking into the camera.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (b4JMJ)

27 So, is Bergdahl still a treasonous defector, or has the Narrative changed?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (FsuaD)

28 Yo horde. I am the ONT whisperer. Or ONT willow. Whatever, when I make my first comment of the day, it makes the ONT appear.

You should be thanking me.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (e+1S5)

29 So...

what's more better parmesan style?



Thick-cut eggplant or thinly cut.>>>

Eggplant processed by a cow and cut up into thick cut steaks.

Posted by: Robinson at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (W2Cji)

30 Owls? Do they taste like chicken?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (YOPoU)

31
It's looking into the camera.

It sees us! It knows we're here!!

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (ko4zy)

32 Can't park a fcukin' car...........but part of the ruling class.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 10:58 PM (I8yfx)

33 I could get behind a Horde Owl Force. They are apex predators. Maybe we could train it to develop a taste for pajambois. And shrinking harridans of all SJW stripes.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 10:58 PM (9iR5/)

34 26
It's looking into the camera.


Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (b4JMJ)


It's still so cute and fuzzy. Hope the mom or dad brings it some food.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 10:58 PM (FsuaD)

35 Coffee?

Posted by: eman at March 25, 2015 10:58 PM (MQEz6)

36 Charlie the Sour Grapes Messenger Girl shakes her groove thang...https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kDFrKRT43o0

Posted by: Bruce Jenner's Plastic Vag at March 25, 2015 10:58 PM (ZgXPR)

37
What's nice is that gas went 8 pennies in the last two weeks. I woulda guessed it was headed the other way.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 25, 2015 10:58 PM (ko4zy)

38 I loved The Shadow, I just wish Alec Baldwin had not been in it.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2015 10:59 PM (t//F+)

39 "Owls? Do they taste like chicken?"


Gamier.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 10:59 PM (I8yfx)

40 Somebody go liberate Mongo "Death from Above" Owlstein and tell him to air drop some Fireball and hobo jerky.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 10:59 PM (KH1sk)

41 Thick for Parm.

Thin for rollitini..

Posted by: Eggplant Answers For Free at March 25, 2015 10:59 PM (YnCWt)

42 Hump Day ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580811568251846656

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580811723600498692

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580811924562137088

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580812098739040256

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2015 10:59 PM (GrXXa)

43 Eggplant processed by a cow and cut up into thick cut steaks.


That's it!

Now why didn't I think of that?

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 10:59 PM (MDgS8)

44 A flock of Great Horned Owls for the HQ. Just imagine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 10:59 PM (FsuaD)

45
yep, Sour Grapes
the dance those girls did was a hoot

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 25, 2015 10:59 PM (ko4zy)

46 Alec Baldwin meat tastes like ass.

Posted by: Pocket Trout at March 25, 2015 11:00 PM (jHvcP)

47 "I could get behind a Horde Owl Force. They are apex predators. Maybe we
could train it to develop a taste for pajambois. And shrinking harridans
of all SJW stripes."



This is all I'm saying. Teach them to key on horn rimmed glasses and ugly chicks.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:00 PM (I8yfx)

48 Angles are a bitch bro.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:00 PM (MDgS8)

49 32 Can't park a fcukin' car...........but part of the ruling class.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 10:58 PM (I8yfx)

Frightening that she would just leave

Drunk?
Alzheimer's?
Just too good?,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:00 PM (YOPoU)

50 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 25, 2015 11:01 PM (UVfht)

51 Either way, you have to sweat your eggplant slices.

Posted by: Eggplant Answers For Free at March 25, 2015 11:01 PM (YnCWt)

52 Maet, if you're in need of a QOTD, this'n will do:

Bergdahl served just like Nidal Hassan did.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 25, 2015 09:33 PM (VpkjW)

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 25, 2015 11:01 PM (Du4AU)

53 Hump Evening ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580918010048839680

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580918314630799360

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580918518528536576

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/580918813346136064

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2015 11:01 PM (GrXXa)

54 >>>Somebody go liberate Mongo "Death from Above" Owlstein

Looks like I missed a new meme. Reader's digest version?

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:01 PM (e+1S5)

55 I missed all the posts today. Is the left wing Perpetual Emotion Machine still operational?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:01 PM (NeFrd)

56 Those owls do have deadly talons and beaks. And their flight is totally silent.

*looks around innocently*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:01 PM (FsuaD)

57 In her defense, Ms. Norton was probably drunk off her ass.

Posted by: Splunge at March 25, 2015 11:01 PM (qyomX)

58 39 "Owls? Do they taste like chicken?"

Gamier.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March

Eagles are stringy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:02 PM (YOPoU)

59 From the last thread:

Somebody linked this video not long ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMG6hHx8FXA

That plane was also turned into confetti on impact. The story of the investigation is fascinating. Definitely watch the whole thing. I started watching and it sucked me right in.

I'm not saying that's what happened here, but this video gives a good account of what the investigators in this case have to work with.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2015 11:02 PM (sdi6R)

60 Eagles are stringy


Oh no you di int.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:03 PM (MDgS8)

61 Mama owl brought the kids a Greater Egret to the nest. That's a very large bird.

Wonder how she'd handle the scalp of Debbie Wassaman-Schultz?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:03 PM (FsuaD)

62 "Just be glad you're not getting a punishment ONT. Or my oft threatened Yoko Ono Retrospective Week."


Oh, cool. Bring it, Maet. I listen to Yoko Ono for fun.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:03 PM (tBSrv)

63 Set of steak knives? What the hell is this? You told me I was a shoe-in for the Worst President Ever award!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at March 25, 2015 11:03 PM (qyomX)

64 55 I missed all the posts today. Is the left wing Perpetual Emotion Machine still operational?
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 2

Yeah, we're still swirling

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:03 PM (YOPoU)

65 Can you imagine the massive therapy today's special snowflakes would need after just 30 seconds of "Blake from Downtown"?

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2015 11:03 PM (GrXXa)

66 Mongo "Death from Above" Owlstein
-----
And his theme song could be Ride of the Valkyries!

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:04 PM (9iR5/)

67 Crap.


I sorta sound like Arec Barwin at work.


I'm an asshole.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:04 PM (I8yfx)

68 Drunk?

Alzheimer's?

Just too good?,
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:00 PM (YOPoU)


My money is on drunk, my second choice is that she thinks that angled parking is stupid and she is going to do it her way, no matter what anyone says and it is not like she will get a ticket anyways.

The two positions are not exclusive by the way

Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2015 11:05 PM (t//F+)

69 Wait, owls are apex predators? What the hell is going on here? Sure owls are apex predators, as long as you don't count anything that weighs more than 15 pounds.

I'm clearly out of the loop. Not the first time. Won't be the last.

Fuck it, I'm gonna shower and do some drinking. Back later. Maybe.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:05 PM (e+1S5)

70 Wonder how she'd handle the scalp of Debbie Wassaman-Schultz?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015

Mayonnaise hair is deadly to birds

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:05 PM (YOPoU)

71 I'm an asshole.


Assholes get coffee.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:05 PM (MDgS8)

72 Interview with "Charlie" (includes horrific Snorky injury) - I bet she's conservative

http://www.wingnuttoons.com/Banana_Conf.html

Posted by: Bruce Jenner's Plastic Vag at March 25, 2015 11:06 PM (ZgXPR)

73 Coffee is for closers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:06 PM (FsuaD)

74 On top of the Yemen/Saudi Arabia news comes this little gem from Bill Gertz. Remember those stolen Libyan airliners from a few months ago?

ISIS attack on Italy coming

http://tinyurl.com/pur3roe

Posted by: Thrawn at March 25, 2015 11:06 PM (Z1b6E)

75 62 I listen to Yoko Ono for fun.

I cut swastikas into my own flesh for fun. You win, bro.

Posted by: Charles Manson at March 25, 2015 11:06 PM (qyomX)

76 The two positions are not exclusive by the way
Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2015 11:05 PM (t//F+)

Cops should've been called and field sobriety tests given. And here Elenor blow on this

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:07 PM (YOPoU)

77 Wait, I thought Yoko Apolo Ono was that speed skater dude from the Olympics, the dude with the soul patch and the bandannas?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:08 PM (NeFrd)

78 An American retired general was on Fox a few days ago, assuring us that the missing Malaysian airliner is somewhere waiting for a major attack on the US.

I'm weary of all the second guessing. And where would the passengers be?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:08 PM (FsuaD)

79 Wait, owls are apex predators? What the hell is going on here? Sure owls are apex predators, as long as you don't count anything that weighs more than 15 pounds.

Haven't you seen Birds?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2015 11:08 PM (0NdlF)

80 I cut swastikas into my own flesh for fun. You win, bro.

Posted by: Charles Manson at March 25, 2015 11:06 PM


I also listen to your album.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:09 PM (tBSrv)

81 I liked that non-human food delivery video.

Outside of work, the closest I come to interacting with humans is commenting here.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2015 11:09 PM (sdi6R)

82 Evening morons. Working hard, as usual.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 25, 2015 11:09 PM (WUYpW)

83 Anybody in the UK? I need a favor...

http://m.ebay.com/itm/191440616928?_mwBanner=1

Posted by: Bruce Jenner's Plastic Vag at March 25, 2015 11:10 PM (ZgXPR)

84 Hooooooorde!!!!


Ok, the 6 harsh truths were awesome. Some crossover and corollary to Cochran's Rules of Life.

Glengarry Glen Ross is always awesome.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:11 PM (GEICT)

85 And Obama isn't finished punishing Israel for Bibi having the temerity to win. Not by a long shot:

US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

http://tinyurl.com/nrrems9

Posted by: Thrawn at March 25, 2015 11:11 PM (Z1b6E)

86 When he went down to dinner in his Sunday best
Excitable boy, they all said
Then he rubbed the pot roast all over his chest
Excitable boy, they all said
Well, he's just an excitable boy

They took in the 4am show at the Clark
Excitable boy, they all said
And he bit the usherette's leg in the dark
Excitable boy, they all said
Well, he's just an excitable boy

He took little Susie to the junior prom
Excitable boy, they all said
then he raped her and killed her when he took her home
Excitable boy, they all said
Well, he's just an excitable boy

After 10 long years, they let him out of the home
Excitable boy, they all said
And he dug up her grave and built a cage with her bones
Excitable boy, they all said
Well, he's just an excitable boy

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2015 11:11 PM (elbY7)

87 Jane D'oh @ 78: "And where would the passengers be?"

Climbing furniture, using safety pins as grappling hooks, all the while staying clear of the monstrous house cats.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 25, 2015 11:11 PM (2OdVw)

88 Hey everybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2015 11:11 PM (elbY7)

89 ONTs been really sucking lately

Posted by: Matt at March 25, 2015 11:12 PM (1MydW)

90 81 I liked that non-human food delivery video.

Outside of work, the closest I come to interacting with humans is commenting here.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2015

I work from home. Some days I'm out of the house other days im in. I'm getting more and more secluded.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:12 PM (YOPoU)

91 Wonder how she'd handle the scalp of Debbie Wassaman-Schultz?
Posted by: Jane D'oh

It would slip right out of the talons. Butter hair you know.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at March 25, 2015 11:12 PM (xrURQ)

92 Steve!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:12 PM (YOPoU)

93 If'n were talkin' raptors, the only answer is the Peregrine.

Has been clocked flying at over 200mph.

Known to eat other birds, INCLUDING OWLS.

* dusts hands *

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (JBzwC)

94 So did the NYT really speculate if Bergdahl would get an honorable discharge?

Posted by: cm9000 at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (8zCR+)

95 Crank! How's the after-hours acute care for chronic conditions gig treating you? Hope you're finding some pearls among the dross.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (NeFrd)

96 94 So did the NYT really speculate if Bergdahl would get an honorable discharge?
Posted by: cm9000 at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (8zCR+)



Yup along with the statement that there's no real interest amongst the public for him to serve time.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (GEICT)

97 58 39 "Owls? Do they taste like chicken?"

Gamier.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March

Eagles are stringy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:02 PM (YOPoU)



Obligatory.

https://youtu.be/TIt89l0VZb0

Posted by: buzzion at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (zt+N6)

98 Oh, cool. Bring it, Maet. I listen to Yoko Ono for fun.

Every man has a women who loves him ... is a very good song.

Posted by: Adriane the Practical ... at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (nSOh+)

99 Owls? Do they taste like chicken?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (YOPoU)


Spotted owls taste like eagle, but a bit less gamey.

Posted by: steveegg at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (cL79m)

100 There are spiders that eat birds.

Just sayin.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:14 PM (MDgS8)

101 Cochran, what is best in life?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 11:14 PM (KH1sk)

102
Yup along with the statement that there's no real interest amongst the public for him to serve time.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (GEICT)


That's certainly true for me.

Hang him immediately.

Posted by: buzzion at March 25, 2015 11:14 PM (zt+N6)

103 93
If'n were talkin' raptors, the only answer is the Peregrine.



Has been clocked flying at over 200mph.



Known to eat other birds, INCLUDING OWLS.



* dusts hands *



There's a great video (from the Owl Cam) that shows a Great Horned Owl diving into Lake Michigan to avoid a pair of Peregrines. It literally swims, using its massive wings, to shore.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:15 PM (FsuaD)

104 Posted by: steveegg at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM (cL79m

Hello Sconnie Moron

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:15 PM (YOPoU)

105 When Gilligan threw a bird at a giant spider it scared it.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11:15 PM (b4JMJ)

106 Can Mongo be set up on a perch in the WH press room and trained to swoop down on the press secretary whenever they lie?

Posted by: Robinson at March 25, 2015 11:15 PM (W2Cji)

107 weft cut-loop @ 93: "If'n were talkin' raptors, the only answer is the Peregrine."

Golden Eagle. Most bad-ass bird on the planet.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 25, 2015 11:15 PM (2OdVw)

108 If you'll be my bodyguard
I can be your long lost pal
I can call you Betty
And Betty when you call me
You can call...me...owl!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:15 PM (NeFrd)

109 101 Cochran, what is best in life?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 11:14 PM (KH1sk)



To crush the enemy, see him driven before you and to hear the lamentations of his women.be

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:16 PM (GEICT)

110 God.


Went back and rewatched Arec.


I suck.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:16 PM (I8yfx)

111 Owl Muldoon has a ring to it ...

Kind of like Tree Harrison and Moonbeam McSwine ...

Posted by: Adriane the Practical ... at March 25, 2015 11:16 PM (nSOh+)

112 OOOkkkkk....where did that come from?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:17 PM (GEICT)

113 103: Jane, I saw that, incredible video. Amazing how they adapt to a situation.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 25, 2015 11:17 PM (ucDmr)

114 Golden Eagle. Most bad-ass bird on the planet.
Posted by: FireHorse


Peregrines have killed Goldens before. Just sayin'...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 25, 2015 11:17 PM (JBzwC)

115 I always thought a restaurant called "Endangered Species" would be a hit.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 25, 2015 11:17 PM (o2yvE)

116 And, get this, we could get T9 to make little Mongo a patch. It could be a talon superimposed over the AoS logo, with the words "Death from Above". Whadya think?

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:17 PM (9iR5/)

117 women.be

crazy

amirite?

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (MDgS8)

118 Went back and rewatched Arec.

I suck.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015

Something more than that bothering you Ricky?.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (YOPoU)

119 Well, the European investigators are closing in on the cause of the Germanwings crash.

They're saying they think it was Bigfoot.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (elbY7)

120 Most badass bird on the planet is easy. It's a Hog. Yup a flying Hog.

The A-10 to be exact.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (GEICT)

121 Pound for pound, the hummingbird is the most bad ass bird on the planet. Crossing the Gulf of Mexico in a single pass, with wings going a gazillion flaps a second on a single tank of sugar water.


If only he could remember the words.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (NeFrd)

122 Hello Sconnie Moron

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:15 PM (YOPoU)


Hey der hey. I'm not in long.

Posted by: steveegg at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (cL79m)

123 I always thought a restaurant called "Endangered Species" would be a hit.

The Freshman, Marlon Brando, Matthew Brodderick, IIRC ...

Posted by: Adriane the Practical ... at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (nSOh+)

124 They're building a Panda Express here. Are they any good?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (b4JMJ)

125 89 ONTs been really sucking lately
Posted by: Matt at March 25, 2015 11:12 PM (1MydW)


So a Yoko fan then. Alright.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (MhQ84)

126 That clip was very motivational. I'm worn out from it though.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 25, 2015 11:19 PM (o2yvE)

127 17
But, what about the OWLS???

well, right now I only see one of the cute fluffy little murder machines, younger sibling Pokie needs to get a move on and start doing a bit more branching before he completely gets left behind.

Posted by: the_Finn at March 25, 2015 11:19 PM (b7AU3)

128 Alex the Grey Parrot...

Posted by: Adriane the Practical ... at March 25, 2015 11:19 PM (nSOh+)

129 Most badass bird on the planet is easy. It's a Hog. Yup a flying Hog.

The A-10 to be exact.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (GEICT)


BCochran and the GAU-8 (but mostly the GAU- for the win.

Posted by: steveegg at March 25, 2015 11:19 PM (cL79m)

130 124 They're building a Panda Express here. Are they any good?
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (b4JMJ)

If anything, at least your colon will be evacuated quickly.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 25, 2015 11:19 PM (Z1b6E)

131 Every man has a women who loves him ... is a very good song.

Posted by: Adriane the Practical ... at March 25, 2015 11:13 PM

Yeah, she's got some good songs. Not a shitload of them, but there are some where her voice suits the tune etc. Mind you, when I play Yoko, it's usually the psycho stuff. I wouldn't recommend Yoko to anybody. You start on the ok sounds, but eventually you develop a tolerance and end up using the hard stuff.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:19 PM (tBSrv)

132 "Something more than that bothering you Ricky?."


Nah. Cleaning my ORD op as we speak.


I've given that speech, minus cussing, before.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:19 PM (I8yfx)

133 125 89 ONTs been really sucking lately

Posted by: Matt at March 25, 2015 11:12 PM (1MydW)

So a Yoko fan then. Alright.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (MhQ84)




SONOFA...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:19 PM (GEICT)

134 Great Horned Owl swims ashore in Lake Michigan to escape Peregrine falcons:

http://tinyurl.com/ps9dv57

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:20 PM (FsuaD)

135 with the words "Death from Above". Whadya think?
Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:17 PM (9iR5/)

******

I do believe that phrase is already spoken for. Evening all.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 25, 2015 11:20 PM (iKG5d)

136 124 They're building a Panda Express here. Are they any good?
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11

I don't care for the bamboo or the shyness. But to each their own. They kind of taste like chicken too

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:20 PM (YOPoU)

137 They're building a Panda Express here. Are they any good?
Posted by: Boss Moss


Depends.

Are you a fan of shitting your pants and/or vomiting?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 25, 2015 11:20 PM (JBzwC)

138 Bada Bing, yeah, that'd be a big hit restaurant name.

Another idea: "Human Flesh To Go."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2015 11:20 PM (elbY7)

139 There are jellyfish called Immortal Jellyfish that are literally immortal.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:20 PM (MDgS8)

140 I'm now clean. In the physical sense.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (e+1S5)

141
Wow, Elenor Holmes Norton, (D) Wash D.C.
Another case of black democratium at work.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (KlVdw)

142 So a Yoko fan then. Alright.


Posted by: Maetenloch at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (MhQ84)


*****


NNNOOOoooooooo........!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (NeFrd)

143 I paralleled a bald eagle flying next to a road I was driving on yesterday. He/she flew 35 mph in level flight covering about 2 miles. Very rural area and I was the only person on the road. No wind blowing and the bird didn't seem to be exerting itself much. Impressive animal.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (xrURQ)

144 Amazing how its someone that has never commented before is bitching about the content.

Posted by: buzzion at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (zt+N6)

145 Any bird that can kill a man is bad-ass in my book. So yeah, eagles and falcons get my props.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (8zCR+)

146 Pound for pound, the hummingbird is the most bad ass bird on the planet. Crossing the Gulf of Mexico in a single pass, with wings going a gazillion flaps a second on a single tank of sugar water.

If only he could remember the words.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (NeFrd)


Uuuurp.

Posted by: Peregrine at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (cL79m)

147 Or perhaps just congressium at work.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (KlVdw)

148 140 I'm now clean. In the physical sense.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (e+1S5)



1 for 2 ain't bad

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:21 PM (GEICT)

149 I want Seamless to be real and to deliver mute hookers.

Posted by: irrigt at March 25, 2015 11:22 PM (DtNNC)

150 Dear Maet, time out or ban Matt. We thankful morons, thankful you are the best Cob, wish not to be punished.

Why don't you think about it while taking the rest of the week off with pay.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:22 PM (YOPoU)

151 Per Wiki (yah, yah, i know):

Peregrine falcons are also occasionally used to scare away birds at airports to reduce the risk of bird-plane strikes, improving air-traffic safety, and were used to intercept homing pigeons during World War II.

*dusts hands again *

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 25, 2015 11:23 PM (JBzwC)

152 I do believe that phrase is already spoken for. Evening all.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 25, 2015 11:20 PM (iKG5d)
-------Well, darn. And a good evening to you as well. I'll have to come up with a different slogan.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:23 PM (9iR5/)

153 121
Pound for pound, the hummingbird is the most bad ass bird on the planet.
Crossing the Gulf of Mexico in a single pass, with wings going a
gazillion flaps a second on a single tank of sugar water.





If only he could remember the words.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (NeFrd)


Actually, there are two types of birds that other birds never mess with -- one is hummingbirds. The fact that they can fly backwards and upside down and their great speed means that they can always end up behind the attacking bird with plenty of time to find just the right spot to mess with tends to act as a deterrent.

And the other type? Woodpeckers. Birds of prey don't like to get in fights where a single strike can break a wing, talon, or skull.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2015 11:23 PM (T1005)

154 >>>ONTs been really sucking lately
Posted by: Matt at March 25, 2015 11:12 PM (1MydW)

So a Yoko fan then. Alright.
Posted by: Maetenloch at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM

Awww, shit. Why must you people taunt happy fun ball? That's not rhetorical, I want a fucking answer. Why?

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:23 PM (e+1S5)

155 Oh, cool. Bring it, Maet. I listen to Yoko Ono for fun.
Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:03 PM

I never knew you were such a sick MFer. Hope you can get well.

Posted by: Farmer at March 25, 2015 11:23 PM (o/90i)

156 Huge on the owl force.




We can do this.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:24 PM (I8yfx)

157 Another case of black democratium at work.
Posted by: Darth Randall at March

Been hanging with Nip Sip?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:24 PM (YOPoU)

158 What it the movie The Birds ever became real? We'd all be doomed, right?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:24 PM (FsuaD)

159 " I want a fucking answer. Why?"


Masturbation.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:25 PM (I8yfx)

160 And the other type? Woodpeckers. Birds of prey don't like to get in fights where a single strike can break a wing, talon, or skull.

And have their own tv show!

Posted by: Adriane the Practical ... at March 25, 2015 11:25 PM (nSOh+)

161 And the other type? Woodpeckers. Birds of prey don't like to get in fights where a single strike can break a wing, talon, or skull.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2015 11:23 PM (T1005)


Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh! Hehehehehehehehehe!

Posted by: Woody Woodpecker at March 25, 2015 11:25 PM (cL79m)

162 I'm stating right now that we split. Team No Yoko and Team Yoko.

If Maet follows through on his threat.....Blog War.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:25 PM (GEICT)

163 Hummingbirds?

Flower sippers.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 25, 2015 11:25 PM (JBzwC)

164 We can do this.


Can we?

Can we??????

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:25 PM (MDgS8)

165 We'd all be doomed, right?
------
I dunno. I do know that I wouldn't want a crow knockin on my noggin.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:26 PM (9iR5/)

166 I found a bird on our front porch that won't be flying anymore. I think the neighbor's cat left it for us.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:26 PM (F2IAQ)

167 What it the movie The Birds ever became real? We'd all be doomed, right?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:24 PM (FsuaD)


We're all gonna die!!!!

Posted by: Doomed guy at March 25, 2015 11:26 PM (cL79m)

168 CAN WE DO THESE????

Posted by: The Rev Al ... at March 25, 2015 11:26 PM (nSOh+)

169 "
Amazing how its someone that has never commented before is bitching about the content."



Fuck. You.

Posted by: Corn Cob at March 25, 2015 11:26 PM (I8yfx)

170 Any bird that can kill a man is bad-ass in my book.

****

Thought exercise: If a hummingbird flew into your arm at full speed which would be the most likely outcome-

1. Puncture wound

2. Crumpled beak

???

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:26 PM (NeFrd)

171 No yoko no shit.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:26 PM (YOPoU)

172 Death before Yoko.
Or, death by Yoko.
No difference, really.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at March 25, 2015 11:26 PM (JgC5a)

173 Team Yoko is outnumbered and outclassed.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:27 PM (MDgS8)

174 >>>1 for 2 ain't bad

That's not what she said.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:27 PM (e+1S5)

175 Team No Yoko!!!!


WHO'S WITH ME??????

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:27 PM (GEICT)

176 What it the movie The Birds ever became real? We'd all be doomed, right?
Posted by: Jane
---------------

#7 shot work pretty well.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:27 PM (F2IAQ)

177 Seagulls are evil bastards. Just like in The Birds. And the little, cute, innocent ones. Just waiting to peck your eyeballs out.

Now, imagine raptors going batshit crazy. Yep, we'd all be doomed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:27 PM (FsuaD)

178 I'm stating right now that we split. Team No Yoko and Team Yoko.

If Maet follows through on his threat.....Blog War.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:25 PM (GEICT)


All we are saying...
Is give peace war a chance!

Posted by: steveegg at March 25, 2015 11:27 PM (cL79m)

179 124
They're building a Panda Express here. Are they any good?


Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (b4JMJ)

Pandas are delicious.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 25, 2015 11:27 PM (o2yvE)

180 Oy.

Back to work ...

Posted by: Adriane the Practical ... at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (nSOh+)

181 That's not what she said.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:27 PM (e+1S5)



Well to you I'm sure she said "Don't worry baby, it happens to every guy from time to time. We'll try again later."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (GEICT)

182 166 I found a bird on our front porch that won't be flying anymore. I think the neighbor's cat left it for us.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March

Mr. Hammers cat framing another innocent creature

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (YOPoU)

183 Death before Yoko.
Or, death by Yoko.
No difference, really.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at March 25, 2015 11:26 PM (JgC5a)


Er, the latter is banned under the Geneva Convention.

Posted by: steveegg at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (cL79m)

184 What is this ONT about?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (I8yfx)

185 Yoko Ono vs. Linda McCartney -- Thunderdome!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (KH1sk)

186 I'm never on time for the ONT.

Hello, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (rJUlF)

187 @123- The Freshman is one of my all-time favorite movies!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (PZ6/M)

188 Husband went out for the paper early one morning, in the dark, a few years ago. A huge, dark, silent thing lands near him, grabs a creature, and flies off.

He's pretty sure it was an owl. Freaked him out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:29 PM (FsuaD)

189 -
158
What it the movie The Birds ever became real? We'd all be doomed, right?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:24 PM

------------

Fight back with DDT. In a few years, their egg shells might get thinner. But probably not.

Posted by: irright at March 25, 2015 11:29 PM (DtNNC)

190 I work from home. Some days I'm out of the house other days im in. I'm getting more and more secluded.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:12 PM

But somehow we found you at Oneida. Showed my wife the pic of us all today. She said you all look like normal folks. LOL

God knows what she expected!

Posted by: Farmer at March 25, 2015 11:29 PM (o/90i)

191 I want Seamless to be real and to deliver mute hookers.

Posted by: irrigt at March 25, 2015 11:22 PM


I'm not paying you for sex. I'm paying you to leave once it's over.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 25, 2015 11:29 PM (KCxzN)

192 "
Team Yoko is outnumbered and outclassed."


Thank God.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:29 PM (I8yfx)

193 Capt!

Long time!

How goes the health???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (GEICT)

194 What is this ONT about?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (I8yfx)
---
Owl assassins and eating endangered species.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (KH1sk)

195 Doesn't Linda McCartney just have one leg?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (b4JMJ)

196 What it the movie The Birds ever became real? We'd all be doomed, right?


***

Erect hundreds of thousands of scarecrows.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (NeFrd)

197 >>>Well to you I'm sure she said "Don't worry baby, it happens to every guy from time to time. We'll try again later."

Heh. Projection ain't just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (e+1S5)

198 Hey CWB good to see you

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (YOPoU)

199 Yoko Ono vs. Linda McCartney -- Thunderdome!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (KH1sk)


Two men enter...
One man leaves
No women leave.

Posted by: steveegg at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (cL79m)

200 Alec Baldwin meat tastes like ass.
Posted by: Pocket Trout at March 25, 2015 11:00 PM (jHvcP)


Blow him first.

Posted by: just a tip from your Uncle Obama at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (a3NCX)

201 184
What is this ONT about?


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (I8yfx)


Atheists vs. Christians. Thunderdome.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (FsuaD)

202 Fight back with DDT. In a few years, their egg shells might get thinner. But probably not.
Posted by: irright


Not is the probably the correct answer. Silent Spring has been repeated fisked. The egg shell claim had no research behind it. Carson made it up.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (JBzwC)

203 Doesn't Linda McCartney just have one leg?
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11:30 PM (b4JMJ)
---
Wrong wife. That was the super-crazy ex.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (KH1sk)

204 What is this ONT about?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:28 PM (I8yfx) Stream of consciousness as near as I can tell.

Posted by: tbodie at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (Ea0JH)

205 "Hello, 'rons and 'ettes."


So, you have no idea what the fuq's going on?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (I8yfx)

206 And the other type? Woodpeckers. Birds of prey don't like to get in
fights where a single strike can break a wing, talon, or skull.


You'd have to be a real weasel to attack a woodpecker.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (UVfht)

207 123
I always thought a restaurant called "Endangered Species" would be a hit.



The Freshman, Marlon Brando, Matthew Brodderick, IIRC ...

Posted by: Adriane the Practical ... at March 25, 2015 11:18 PM (nSOh+)

have to watch it.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (o2yvE)

208 A huge, dark, silent thing lands near him, grabs a creature, and flies off.


****


Chalupacabra.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (NeFrd)

209 Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2015 11:23 PM (T1005)

Beat me to it.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (0NdlF)

210
195 Doesn't Linda McCartney just have one leg?
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015

She's dead, but before death she was missing a boob. His 2nd wife was a hop-along

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (YOPoU)

211 We're all gonna die!!!!
-----
Whatever you do, do not throw that match that you just lit your cigarette with into that pool of gas that you let happen just because you couldn't pay attention.
Kind of a funny story. I was at a convenience store filling up my truck when these two twenty something girls came in and gassed up. They were all giggly and cutting up. Well, when they left, they had forgotten to take the hose out of their car. I hollered and whistled but they kept right on going until they took the hose off the gas pump. They were lucky that the hose was fitted with a break away nozzle. After that they weren't quite so giggly.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (9iR5/)

212 BC!!!

It's going well. My heart's in good shape, I'm losing some wait and the physical therapy people only get six more sessions of trying to kill me.

Still loving the podcast.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (rJUlF)

213 Husband went out for the paper early one morning, in the dark, a few years ago. A huge, dark, silent thing lands near him, grabs a creature, and flies off.
-------------------------------
I had an owl take a pass at the cat while I had him out on a leash. I was standing still in the dark, and the owl apparently didn't realize that I was there, or changed his mind about the cat. At any rate, I felt the whuff of air as he swooped by.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (F2IAQ)

214
163 Hummingbirds?

Flower sippers.


Friggin hippies.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2015 11:32 PM (0NdlF)

215 "Stream of consciousness as near as I can tell.

Posted by: tbodie at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (Ea0JH)"

Hey, fcuk off,

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:32 PM (I8yfx)

216 Birdemic is a film that studies the potential of an avian attack on humanity.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 25, 2015 11:32 PM (8zCR+)

217 I saw Chalupacabra open for the Flying Burrito Brothers.

At least, that's what my dad tells me. I was only three.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at March 25, 2015 11:32 PM (rJUlF)

218 Wail, y'all, I watched Justified and did not take any pleasure in the violence.

Here we go in my best Ava voice: I do want to see the little snit (new one) with the inbred eyes, to get blown to smithereens. Where is smithereens you might ask? Well, it is where I would like to take some people I have encountered today: family (a wee bit passive and irritating and paranoid inducing, fussing over "irrevocable trust" yet changing a few acres for brother (who I want to be happy) and leaving me off call and yada ophra issues I cannot be bothered with. Oh, but I'm a part of trust? Yes, just sigh here, Christy, you ignorant slut, just do whatever the hell you are going to, Mama, as you don't listen to me anyway. pfft I honestly wish I were raised by wolves sometimes.

Oh, and moving lady? And how you are suddenly adding pounds to our move? Well, my husband, who is no math slouch, has your number and you'd best on your pretty toes next Wed.

Oh, and fancy lady who is coming to appraise a treasure or two for my move? Don't effing confuse my tired mind with your emails. I am ready to lock everyone out of my life who even talk to me. Morons are the exception.

I woke up in a perfectly good mood for packing and the rotating fan started flinging feces....and I then look like mooch by noon,but with more hair and less caboose.

I think the folks on Justified have the right idea: bourbon befor noon. I may try that tomorrow and see how many boxes I can pack totally bombed. Hail, nothing will make it there anyway in one piece. I may as well start my mourning.

And if my husband does his daily irritation I may pack him in shrink wrap and stuff him in a box and fed ex him to my son. xoxo Prepare for some type of snark tomorrow. I will be sharpening my claws my flying monkeys. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is back from the brink at March 25, 2015 11:32 PM (TIGDR)

219 What is this ONT about?

Yoko Ono and owls. Have you ever smelled an owl? They smell like Yoko sings.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at March 25, 2015 11:32 PM (o/3Hk)

220 190: Farmer, even me? I never thought of myself as normal. Damn, I must be getting soft.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 25, 2015 11:33 PM (ucDmr)

221 Look.

You fuck with a Woodpecker......

You're gonna get pecked.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:33 PM (MDgS8)

222 212

losing WEIGHT. WEIGHT.

The sad part is, I can't even blame autocorrect.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at March 25, 2015 11:33 PM (rJUlF)

223 "What is this ONT about?"

Brackets. Looks like peregrine falcons, golden eagles, woodpeckers and hummingbirds are in the final four.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 25, 2015 11:33 PM (2OdVw)

224 You'd have to be a real weasel to attack a woodpecker.


Or Putin.
https://twitter.com/_jamesabraham/status/572744095187267584/photo/1

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2015 11:33 PM (0NdlF)

225 When a Harris Teeter opened near us YEARS ago in Brookhaven, ATL, they advertised wild meat: including tiger, lion, you name it.

Husband had a fantasy of hosting a "mystery meat" dinner party. I declined to co-host it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (FsuaD)

226 I never knew you were such a sick MFer. Hope you can get well.

Posted by: Farmer at March 25, 2015 11:23 PM

There's a method to the madness, amigo. After listening to great music for a long time, you get jaded. A binge of Yoko sort of resets your brain and listening to your fave LP's that you've thrashed to death all of sudden sound fresh again. Hell, even polka, accordion and bagpipes sound good.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (tBSrv)

227 177 Seagulls are evil bastards. Just like in The Birds. And the little, cute, innocent ones. Just waiting to peck your eyeballs out.

Now, imagine raptors going batshit crazy. Yep, we'd all be doomed.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:27 PM (FsuaD)

Imagine all the limbs I could break.

Posted by: Steven Seagull at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (Z1b6E)

228 Whatever you do, do not throw that match that you just lit your cigarette with into that pool of gas that you let happen just because you couldn't pay attention.

Kind of a funny story. I was at a convenience store filling up my truck when these two twenty something girls came in and gassed up. They were all giggly and cutting up. Well, when they left, they had forgotten to take the hose out of their car. I hollered and whistled but they kept right on going until they took the hose off the gas pump. They were lucky that the hose was fitted with a break away nozzle. After that they weren't quite so giggly.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (9iR5/)


Pass-through penalty on car 69.

Posted by: NASCAR official at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (cL79m)

229 I'm sure Jesus was a "nice guy" and he "cared a lot" and folks who follow his teachings are "helping the world."

All I can say is, Jesus must have been rebelling against His Dad.

His Dad is a sadistic monster who cannot--and I mean CANNOT--pass up an opportunity to kick me in the nads. Every. Chance. He. Gets.

So, yeah, Jesus gets points but since His Dad runs the show, he's the hippie son who was disowned and can't really do anything other than rap about how your troubles are like, so awesome, man, and this is, like, terrible, and so unfair. Any more Colombian?

Posted by: Null at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (xjpRj)

230 Human Flesh to Go. Who said that? Me likee.

I'll have a leg and some dark meat.



Posted by: Badda Bing at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (o2yvE)

231 How much wood would a woodpecker pecker if a woodpecker could pecker wood?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (NeFrd)

232 A huge, dark, silent thing lands near him, grabs a creature, and flies off.
----------------

Mothman. It's given me the creeps when camping in the mountains of WV.

http://tinyurl.com/rojnc

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (F2IAQ)

233 219 What is this ONT about?

Yoko Ono and owls. Have you ever smelled an owl? They smell like Yoko sings.
Posted by: fairweatherbill at March 25, 2015

Lead, steel or bismuth?,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (YOPoU)

234 And on that note, I'm OOH!



(out of here).

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (NeFrd)

235 I once had some long-past-changin-time drum brake pads that could have given Yoko a run for Lennon's money.

Posted by: irright at March 25, 2015 11:35 PM (DtNNC)

236
MH, "black democratium", I think, is actually a legit mainstream (and accurate, funny) expression when used in proper context. But I understand your reference to a regular commenter. Funny, you and others (buzzion, for example) have called him out a few times, I just sit back and stay quiet, but I think most of the Horde is in agreement with you.

Sad, it sort of is a microcosm of what's been lost (uh, destroyed) in America: the unwritten rules, the context-and-heart-dependent filter to determine what's edgy vs. what's offensive (in the old, meaningful sense). But here in the comments, you can see the good ol' ways still alive, and practiced by such as yourself.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2015 11:35 PM (afQnV)

237 My foundations are falling all around me (world view, not undergarments).

My representative, that bloated wood tick Elijah Cummings, is actually sounding coherent as he grills the Secret Service on their recent string of failures.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 11:35 PM (KH1sk)

238 No Yoko!

Please!! For the love of all that good and kind and decent in the world, please ...

No Yoko {wimper}{sniff}

Posted by: dissent555 at March 25, 2015 11:35 PM (yR6A1)

239 "How much wood would a woodpecker pecker if a woodpecker could pecker wood?"



Yo' mama.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:35 PM (I8yfx)

240 So, you have no idea what the fuq's going on?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (I8yfx)

I stopped in earlier tonight to read the Phil Robertson thread. Then I had to take a break.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at March 25, 2015 11:35 PM (rJUlF)

241 What is this ONT about?

Yoko Ono and owls. Have you ever smelled an owl? They smell like Yoko sings.
Posted by: fairweatherbill at March 25, 2015

Lead, steel or bismuth?,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (YOPoU)


Brimstone.

Posted by: steveegg at March 25, 2015 11:35 PM (cL79m)

242
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:32 PM (I8yfx) .


I am not talking about Maet's work. I was talking about the comments.

Posted by: tbodie at March 25, 2015 11:35 PM (Ea0JH)

243 If we're doing this, I'm on Team Yoko bc I like to win. Every man has his limits, and I want to see some of you beg for mercy to make it stop.

I'm with Maet and I guess, otho and Adrienne too. Go Team Yoko!

Posted by: L, Elle at March 25, 2015 11:36 PM (2x3L+)

244 "The War of Art" is this speech in about 200 pages. Brilliant book by Steven Pressfield.

Posted by: TheDiddy at March 25, 2015 11:36 PM (GT1SH)

245 >>>Well, when they left, they had forgotten to take the hose out of their car. I hollered and whistled but they kept right on going until they took the hose off the gas pump. They were lucky that the hose was fitted with a break away nozzle. After that they weren't quite so giggly.

I've done this. I wasn't drunk or stoned or anything (as far as any of you can prove), just stupid.

When I heard the *thunk* of the quick release, I knew right away what it was.

My second thought was "there's a reason that exists. Because I'm not the first one to do it."

My third thought was "and that fact won't save me from the mockery of these fuckers"

I was right on all counts.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:36 PM (e+1S5)

246 231 How much wood would a woodpecker pecker if a woodpecker could pecker wood?
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (NeFrd)

They would Chuck as much as a woodchuck could

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:36 PM (YOPoU)

247 And on that bombshell, my career is out of here.

Posted by: Zombie Jeremy Clarkson at March 25, 2015 11:36 PM (cL79m)

248 212 BC!!!

It's going well. My heart's in good shape, I'm losing some wait and the physical therapy people only get six more sessions of trying to kill me.

Still loving the podcast.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at March 25, 2015 11:31 PM (rJUlF)



Glad to hear the health stuff is going well.

And thank you.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:37 PM (GEICT)

249 Well, off to bed to get into another terrifying novel that will keep me awake all night.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:37 PM (FsuaD)

250 "I stopped in earlier tonight to read the Phil Robertson thread. Then I had to take a break."


Understand.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:37 PM (I8yfx)

251 Null -- sorry for your loss bro.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:37 PM (MDgS8)

252 "I am not talking about Maet's work. I was talking about the comments."


I missed that totally. What did Maet do?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:38 PM (I8yfx)

253 As long as Maet doesn't post another punishment thread, I'm happy.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at March 25, 2015 11:39 PM (rJUlF)

254 If we're doing this, I'm on Team Yoko bc I like to win. Every man has his limits, and I want to see some of you beg for mercy to make it stop. I'm with Maet and I guess, otho and Adrienne too. Go Team Yoko!

Posted by: L, Elle at March 25, 2015 11:36 PM

Yay! One of us... one of us...

BTW- Yoko does have some good songs.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:39 PM (tBSrv)

255 249
Well, off to bed to get into another terrifying novel that will keep me awake all night.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:37 PM (FsuaD)

Wait Jane! whats your terrifying novelist of choice?

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 25, 2015 11:39 PM (o2yvE)

256 My third thought was "and that fact won't save me from the mockery of these fuckers"
------
Still laughing! *In a mocking sort of way*
And there, but by the grace of God, go I!

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:40 PM (9iR5/)

257 First! That's how long I've been reading the 'harsh truths' piece and the brutal 'hipster' piece it linked to.

Posted by: t-bird at March 25, 2015 11:40 PM (FcR7P)

258 When I heard the *thunk* of the quick release, I knew right away what it was.

My second thought was "there's a reason that exists. Because I'm not the first one to do it."

My third thought was "and that fact won't save me from the mockery of these fuckers"
-------------------------------

* not mocking *
Well...., no doubt others have done it..

* whistles innocently, while staring at the sky *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:40 PM (F2IAQ)

259 BTW- Yoko does have some good songs.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:39 PM (tBSrv)


Good, bad - she's NOT the one with the voice.

Posted by: Ash - Housewares at March 25, 2015 11:41 PM (cL79m)

260 Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2015 11:35 PM (afQnV)

I was being snarky.And I took a cheap shot at Nip.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:41 PM (YOPoU)

261 Good evening. I've been busy. Been drinking. Not interested in your complaints. Wait...!

Here's my contribution to improved man-woman relationships tonight - not? (photo sfw no spiders):

http://tinyurl.com/nuvczbp

Posted by: mindful webworker - need... therapy... beer! stat! at March 25, 2015 11:41 PM (ACs58)

262 "Hell, even polka, accordion and bagpipes sound good."

Polkas and accordions always sound good. Bagpipes? Thats just crazy talk.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 25, 2015 11:41 PM (6yehy)

263 229
I'm sure Jesus was a "nice guy" and he "cared a lot" and folks who follow his teachings are "helping the world."

All I can say is, Jesus must have been rebelling against His Dad.

His
Dad is a sadistic monster who cannot--and I mean CANNOT--pass up an
opportunity to kick me in the nads. Every. Chance. He. Gets.

So,
yeah, Jesus gets points but since His Dad runs the show, he's the hippie
son who was disowned and can't really do anything other than rap about
how your troubles are like, so awesome, man, and this is, like,
terrible, and so unfair. Any more Colombian?


Posted by: Null at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM (xjpRj)


So, what's up? I've seen you drop in a couple of times, but it always seems like a "one-and-done" comment. How's the cat?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2015 11:41 PM (T1005)

264 I pulled the hose out of the car when it was still running.


Yeah.

I did that. Gas all over my front.

Burned like a bitch all the way home.

Shut up.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:42 PM (MDgS8)

265 "I am not talking about Maet's work. I was talking about the comments."


I missed that totally. What did Maet do?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:38 PM (I8yfx) 253 As long as Maet doesn't post another punishment thread, I'm happy.Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at March 25, 2015 11:39 PM (rJUlF) .Maet did the AWESOME ONT and we just don't deserve the goodness that he brings. Plus he threatened another punishment ONT, Yoko Ono themed.

Posted by: tbodie at March 25, 2015 11:42 PM (Ea0JH)

266 252
"I am not talking about Maet's work. I was talking about the comments."


I missed that totally. What did Maet do?


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:38 PM (I8yfx)

motivational piece about real estate or something.a lot of hollering. great cussing.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 25, 2015 11:42 PM (o2yvE)

267 Hellooooo.

Posted by: Big Bird at March 25, 2015 11:42 PM (t2aeH)

268 The agony booth or...THIS. You decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D750pEKhfd0

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 11:42 PM (KH1sk)

269 Later, ONT. I gotta go to bed



Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:42 PM (I8yfx)

270 190: Farmer, even me? I never thought of myself as normal. Damn, I must be getting soft.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 25, 2015 11:33 PM

Yes even you.

She wants to come to the MoMee next year. The nine week old puppy is the reason she didn't make it.

The pup is fun, slowly growing up. She already knows sit and shake at her age. I think that's good. What is normal for that age?

Posted by: Farmer at March 25, 2015 11:43 PM (o/90i)

271 'Night Ricko

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:43 PM (F2IAQ)

272 >>> BTW- Yoko does have some good songs.
Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:39 PM (tBSrv)

Riiight, we can keep those to ourselves. All I heard was some "song" of her wailing and screaming sounding like a cat dying. Nails on a chalkboard type stuff.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 25, 2015 11:43 PM (2x3L+)

273 Not sure why the run on comments. apologies.

Posted by: tbodie at March 25, 2015 11:43 PM (Ea0JH)

274 OK, I'm out

Poland again at 0530

tomorrow night, mi amigos

g'night, Andrew

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 25, 2015 11:43 PM (KCxzN)

275
BTW- Yoko does have some good songs.



I'd rather smell owl shit than listen to that.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at March 25, 2015 11:44 PM (FviSe)

276 What is normal for that age?
Posted by: Farmer
------------

Chewing stuff..., stuff you never imagined that they would chew.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:44 PM (F2IAQ)

277 I was out on the back patio one afternoon getting ready to grill a couple of steaks for me and Mrs. Old Blue when I suddenly catch something out of the corner of my eye. We live in a condo complex with some open area between buildings. We have a boatload of rabbits living in the area. So many that sometimes I see foxes and coyotes in the neighborhood. But I digress. Anyhow what drew my attention was that an eagle had just hit one of said bunny rabbits, but missed. The rabbit hauled ass under a juniper bush and the eagle flew off hungry. I thought it was really cool until I remembered that our cat likes to go out in that open area. I would hate to see our cat wind up as eagle food.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:44 PM (9iR5/)

278 Nite rk

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:45 PM (YOPoU)

279 Evening horde.

What a tragic loss Bruce Jenner passing away during gender reassignment.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 25, 2015 11:45 PM (XAFOu)

280 Here's my contribution to improved man-woman relationships tonight - not? (photo sfw no spiders):


The sign is true. But it's so much tastier when you get a shmexy woman to do it. With a smile.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 25, 2015 11:45 PM (0NdlF)

281 Kidding

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 25, 2015 11:45 PM (XAFOu)

282 Yeah.

I did that. Gas all over my front.

Burned like a bitch all the way home.

Shut up.


Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:42 PM

----------

I know it's Monday-morning-quarterbacking, but perhaps you should have hunted down an extinguisher.

Posted by: irright at March 25, 2015 11:45 PM (DtNNC)

283 The agony booth or...THIS. You decide.


I'm gonna have to go with the agony booth.

Please?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 25, 2015 11:45 PM (UVfht)

284 I missed that totally. What did Maet do?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 25, 2015 11:38 PM (I8yfx)


Consider your fate. Well among other things....

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 25, 2015 11:45 PM (MhQ84)

285 Once had a German Shepard pup chew the handle off a 3lb hammer. Damn I miss that dog.

Posted by: tbodie at March 25, 2015 11:45 PM (Ea0JH)

286 Polkas and accordions always sound good. Bagpipes? Thats just crazy talk.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 25, 2015 11:41 PM

It's all relative. Put on the "Life With The Lions" LP. Then, play some bagpipe music. It sounds like angels.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:46 PM (tBSrv)

287 Evening horde.



What a tragic loss Bruce Jenner passing away during gender reassignment.


RIP Bruce.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:46 PM (MDgS8)

288 The pup is fun, slowly growing up. She already knows sit and shake at her age. I think that's good. What is normal for that age?
Posted by: Farmer at March 25, 2015

Awesome Farmer. I'm sending Abu Nidal Dreamer your way for training

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:46 PM (YOPoU)

289 Took the folks to IHOP tonight...pro tip- if any of your party is a senior everybody's meal is half off.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 25, 2015 11:47 PM (XAFOu)

290 Yes, the passing of Bruce Jenner is a tragedy.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 25, 2015 11:48 PM (8zCR+)

291 I just learned if you hit the percentage sign your message goes to NSA or somewhere. Either that or my Mama has somehow got control of this here keyboard thingie.

I think my message started out that I, Christy Brinkly, aging supermodel who now looks like the Duchess of Alba due to stress, once dated a young man named Pecker. I saw nothing wrong with this at all. But buzz-kill Mama gave it the old third degree and she could not call him that, all high and mighty. So I rolled my eyes and told her his real name and that he'd had the nickname since childnood due to red hair. I mean, duh, Mama. Bite moi. She is kind most of the time. But sometimes, my little morons and 'ettes, some type of weird voodoo passive aggressive jolt of memory of my childhood comes to the surface. I am a good daughter. I don't want her damn money but want her to make good decisions, yada. But! I am a woman. And men are who she trusts (see, brothers). So bite moi. I got enough problems staying out of straight jackets without this family trust crap. I may soon declare myself kidnapped and found after moving van comes to new house (like that chick in CA).

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is back from the brink at March 25, 2015 11:48 PM (TIGDR)

292 Whoever said that bagpipes suck can get beat up and broken-boned...

https://youtu.be/ZDCs7ijNUVM

Posted by: Zombie Bon Scott at March 25, 2015 11:48 PM (cL79m)

293 Oh, Yoko... http://tinyurl.com/mpj6wnr

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at March 25, 2015 11:48 PM (t2aeH)

294 IHOP -- nobody hops after IHOP.



~Jim Gaffigan

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:49 PM (MDgS8)

295 >>>What a tragic loss Bruce Jenner passing away during gender reassignment.

No, that was Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:49 PM (e+1S5)

296 281
Kidding

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 25, 2015 11:45 PM (XAFOu)

hook. line. sinker. almost googled. lol.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 25, 2015 11:49 PM (o2yvE)

297
289 Took the folks to IHOP tonight...pro tip- if any of your party is a senior everybody's meal is half off.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 2

Who you calling senior, sonny?,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:49 PM (YOPoU)

298 Good night Horde, and pleasant dreams! (Not judging -- totally not judging. **narrows eyes**)

Good night, Mongo Owlstein, wherever you are.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 25, 2015 11:49 PM (KH1sk)

299 Once had a German Shepard pup chew the handle off a 3lb hammer. Damn I miss that dog.
Posted by: tbodie
-----------

I'm gonna have to take a picture of the neighbor's German Shepard. Biggest one I've ever known of. He can put his paws on my shoulders, and look down on me. Big damned dog, and sweet as a teddy bear.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:49 PM (F2IAQ)

300 290 Yes, the passing of Bruce Jenner is a tragedy.
Posted by: cm9000 at March 25, 2015 11:48 PM (8zCR+)


Well he went out the way he wanted to - doped up and penis-less.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 25, 2015 11:50 PM (MhQ84)

301 Null, I won't offer prayers BC it's probably the last thing you want to hear and I'm not doing much of it myself.

I'll just say the bad stuff eventually goes away or at least lessens. My thoughts are with you and your lovely kitteh and your work.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 25, 2015 11:50 PM (2x3L+)

302 Bruce Jenner died? Did he get silicone butt poison?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is back from the brink at March 25, 2015 11:50 PM (TIGDR)

303 Woodpeckers are badass*.
But they're not invulnerable. I watched a starling go into a Hairy (Downy?) Woodpecker cavity, kill mom dad & babies, kick the copses out, then take over the home.

Since that day, I deliver justice with my trusty Daisy to any starling that flies onto the compound. They are a nuisance. Officially designated such, in fact. The only bird that nests year round in all fifty states.

*Pileated woodpecker got me into birding. Badass. I think they carry Samuel Jackson's wallet from Pulp Fiction.

Posted by: Tucker at March 25, 2015 11:51 PM (jjHp6)

304 So what do we have to do to piss you off enough to merit the Cher retrospective soundbite punishment?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 25, 2015 11:51 PM (XO6WW)

305 >>>Well...., no doubt others have done it..

Actually no. And the lack of mocking speaks volumes.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:52 PM (e+1S5)

306 When a Harris Teeter opened near us YEARS ago in Brookhaven, ATL, they advertised wild meat: including tiger, lion, you name it.
Husband had a fantasy of hosting a "mystery meat" dinner party. I declined to co-host it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM

LMAO Jane.

Reminds me of when my roommate had a boa constrictor that was going to give birth. I had dibs on one of the offspring.

As it turned out I had to move out-of-town before they were born. I asked my girlfriend, now my wife, if she would watch the snake till I could get it to my new home.

She declined to co-host it.

Posted by: Farmer at March 25, 2015 11:52 PM (o/90i)

307 ruce Jenner died? Did he get silicone butt poison?


He died.


He's dead.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:52 PM (MDgS8)

308 Well he went out the way he wanted to - doped up and penis-less.
Posted by: Maetenloch at March 25, 2015 11:50 P

** giggles**!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:52 PM (YOPoU)

309 Well he went out the way he wanted to - doped up and penis-less.


Posted by: Maetenloch at March 25, 2015 11:50 PM (MhQ84)

or penised up and dope-less.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 25, 2015 11:52 PM (o2yvE)

310
Who you calling senior, sonny?,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:49 PM (YOPoU)

Give me the breakfast sampler....and get off my lawn dagnabbit!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 25, 2015 11:52 PM (XAFOu)

311 Heinz Kraft merger.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11:52 PM (b4JMJ)

312
Why is so angry at religious opinions lately?

I really hope Ace is joining the atheist line-of-thinking that the world be better off without religion.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 25, 2015 11:53 PM (ko4zy)

313 Actually no. And the lack of mocking speaks volumes.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:52 PM (e+1S5)



Well, I mean, that wasn't even sporting.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:53 PM (GEICT)

314 Elton John is performing at Jenner's funeral.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 25, 2015 11:53 PM (XAFOu)

315 I'm gonna have to take a picture of the neighbor's German Shepard. Biggest one I've ever known of. He can put his paws on my shoulders, and look down on me. Big damned dog, and sweet as a teddy bear.Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:49 PM (F2IAQ) .Mine wasn't that big but he had lots of personality and was also ateddy bear.

Posted by: tbodie at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (Ea0JH)

316 Oops. Off, stinky dog sock.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (jjHp6)

317 Bruce Jenner died? Did he get silicone butt poison?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is back from the brink at March 25, 2015 11:50 PM (TIGDR)


Tragically passed during an addaclitome procedure.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (8zCR+)

318 When I was driving over the road, I used to have an old beater that I would keep at the yard. The yard was in a not so nice part of town, so I didn't want to leave my nice car there.
I came back off a run one time and went out to go home and the car wouldn't start. I get under the hood and see that it's not getting any fuel. I start tracing the fuel line back and get to a little rubber hose between the fuel line and the fuel tank. I go into the shop and bum six inches of rubber hose and go replace it.
So, I'm laying under the car and I decide to suck on the hose to prime it. I get a mouthful of gas, turn my head real quick and get gas in my ear. I swear I bounced my head off the frame and the ground about a dozen times each getting out from under the car.
Went to the emergency room because the pain was freaking intense. Doctor told me that the eardrum was a little inflamed, and commented that it was the cleanest ear he had ever seen. Asshole.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (9iR5/)

319 We deserve a Kathy Bates retrospective minus Misery.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (MDgS8)

320

Actually no. And the lack of mocking speaks volumes.
Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor

No mockery here.
Never did that
But ain't gonna laugh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (YOPoU)

321 Just stopped back in to say hello and goodnight..

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (Wo9OY)

322 Any source on the Bruce Jenner news?

Not finding anything at Bing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (elbY7)

323 I'm gonna have to take a picture of the neighbor's German Shepard.
Biggest one I've ever known of. He can put his paws on my shoulders, and
look down on me. Big damned dog, and sweet as a teddy bear.>>>

BIL had a black lab that size. The most dangerous part of that dog was his giant tail wagging and whacking you in the nuts.

Posted by: Robinson at March 25, 2015 11:55 PM (W2Cji)

324 262
"Hell, even polka, accordion and bagpipes sound good."

Polkas and accordions always sound good. Bagpipes? Thats just crazy talk.


Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 25, 2015 11:41 PM (6yehy)


Letter written by Angus McPherson, Freshman, University of Leeds:

Dear Mum,

Though classes have yet to start, you'll be happy to know that I'm settling in well. The food is poor, but ample -- I have yet to find a proper haggis. The dorms are roomy, but there are no proper peat fires to settle in with.

I am a bit concerned about the folks in the rooms adjacent to mine, however. On one side, the fellow shrieks and moans at all hours of the day or night for no apparent reason at all. On the other, it often sounds like he's banging his head against the wall.

The good news is that classes will start soon, and I won't hear them so often. In the meantime, I pay them no mind, and just continue to quietly practice my bagpipes.

Your loving son,

Angus

Posted by: cthulhu at March 25, 2015 11:55 PM (T1005)

325 >>>Well, I mean, that wasn't even sporting.

Yeah, because you're known for laying off the hanging curve.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:56 PM (e+1S5)

326 Bobby Knight was the Alec Baldwin character. Bobby Knight also ran Larry Bird off.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at March 25, 2015 11:56 PM (e8nnW)

327 Yeah, because you're known for laying off the hanging curve.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 25, 2015 11:56 PM (e+1S5)



Laying off the hanging curve.


Is that some sort of hippy pot head code lingo?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 25, 2015 11:57 PM (GEICT)

328 Not finding anything at Bing.
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (elbY7)

*******
Must be trending on Twatter.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 25, 2015 11:57 PM (5qEZd)

329 322 Any source on the Bruce Jenner news?

Not finding anything at Bing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2015 11:54 PM (elbY7)

So the Illuminati got to the MSM as well.


(Just messing around qdpsteve. He/she/it isn't dead.)

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 25, 2015 11:57 PM (XAFOu)

330 I haven't examined the patient yet.

Posted by: Bones McCoy at March 25, 2015 11:57 PM (cL79m)

331 Not seeing Bruce Jenner died anywhere.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11:57 PM (b4JMJ)

332 There's a method to the madness, amigo. After listening to great music for a long time, you get jaded. A binge of Yoko sort of resets your brain and listening to your fave LP's that you've thrashed to death all of sudden sound fresh again. Hell, even polka, accordion and bagpipes sound good.

Posted by: otho at March 25, 2015 11:34 PM

That makes some sense. But I'm never willingly listening to YO for the rest of my life.

Posted by: Farmer at March 25, 2015 11:57 PM (o/90i)

333 Give me the breakfast sampler....and get off my lawn dagnabbit!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March

But first you will blow me
Pis off and
Get off my lawn

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:57 PM (YOPoU)

334 *briiing out your dead!!*


I'm not dead yet!

Posted by: Bridgette Jenner at March 25, 2015 11:58 PM (o2yvE)

335 He's dead.


He died.

Posted by: eleven at March 25, 2015 11:58 PM (MDgS8)

336 RWC, okay.

Jenner does seem incredibly depressed. Can't help but believe having gender reassignment surgery won't help him with that very much.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2015 11:59 PM (elbY7)

337 Hobos will get to tour the Sistine Chapel.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 25, 2015 11:59 PM (b4JMJ)

338 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:57 PM (YOPoU)

So that's the secret code. Much obliged.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 25, 2015 11:59 PM (XAFOu)

339 I think I'll go for a walk!

Posted by: Brucelina Jenner at March 26, 2015 12:00 AM (JO9+V)

340 We have periodic outbreaks of "So and so died". It's a meme, see: Jeff Goldblume

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 12:00 AM (F2IAQ)

341
There is no more Bruce Jenner.

There was, once. But he's gone...into the ether..

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 12:00 AM (ko4zy)

342 So that's the secret code. Much obliged.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 25, 2015 11:59 PM (XAFOu)

As I age, basically my disposition

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:00 AM (YOPoU)

343 >>>Never did that
But ain't gonna laugh

Meh. It was more than a decade ago. I did something stupid. Go ahead and laugh. It's fucking funny.

It would be funnier with a multi-state crime spree or a clown with a tomahawk buried in his head, but the best part is that it happens often enough that every gas nozzle in America has a quick release because dummies like me drive away often enough to make that cost worthwhile.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26, 2015 12:00 AM (e+1S5)

344 -
I'm not dead yet!


Posted by: Bridgette Jenner at March 25, 2015 11:58 PM

--------

You're not fooling anyone.

Posted by: irright at March 26, 2015 12:00 AM (DtNNC)

345 Can we do the operation?
Is the Jenner dead yet?
You know the boys in the ONT
Got a ruinning bet.

Posted by: Dr. Don Henley at March 26, 2015 12:01 AM (cL79m)

346 But I don't want to go on the cart!

Posted by: Brucelina Jenner at March 26, 2015 12:01 AM (JO9+V)

347 One thing that's very true about the Baldwin speech in GGGR:

It's true, 2nd place don't mean nothin' in the real world. When it happens, you're *lucky* if you get steak knives.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:02 AM (elbY7)

348 He's pining for the fjords.

Posted by: irright at March 26, 2015 12:02 AM (DtNNC)

349 346
But I don't want to go on the cart!


Posted by: Brucelina Jenner at March 26, 2015 12:01 AM (JO9+V)

your gonna be dead soon.
*hits him with club*

Posted by: Monty at March 26, 2015 12:02 AM (o2yvE)

350 Jenner does seem incredibly depressed. Can't help but believe having gender reassignment surgery won't help him with that very much.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 25, 2015 11:59 PM (elbY7)

He has to be. The ex used to watch the Kim show when it first came on and they treated him like absolute shit. Gender surgery won't help but living with a fuckwad piece of shit family doesn't help. I actually feel sorry for him. But to each his own.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 26, 2015 12:03 AM (XAFOu)

351 Last time I came in 2nd place at work, good news: I got steak knives.

Bad news: had to pull 'em out of my back first.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:03 AM (elbY7)

352 your gonna be dead soon.
*hits him with club*

Posted by: Monty at March 26, 2015 12:02 AM (o2yvE)


If that's the real Monty and not this Python piker, we're in the terminal stages of bonage.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:04 AM (cL79m)

353 Yeah, that quick release nozzle was pretty clever. Some one came up with an idea that was practical, saved money, and damage. I've seen pictures on the interwebs of people driving down a highway with the nozzle and hose dragging the ground behind them, and they never even notice. Can you imagine getting home and seeing that laying in your driveway?

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:04 AM (9iR5/)

354
"Origins of human alcohol consumption revealed"

Link:
http://tinyurl.com/odt7bw2

Spoiler Alert: Morons been around a long time.

Posted by: tbodie at March 26, 2015 12:04 AM (Ea0JH)

355 >>>Is that some sort of hippy pot head code lingo?

It would be. But I don't have any fucking ganja. Which is very much not cool.

Especially in a week when Cougar, Princess and Beagle are all gone.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26, 2015 12:04 AM (e+1S5)

356 Good news: your gf brought water to the picnic.
Bad news: she drove through a lake.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:05 AM (elbY7)

357 Y'all are horrible people who make me look to see if Bruce died. Horrible. You are lucky that I am too tired to spank you.

He is weird. Will give him that.

And WHY are the Kardashians everywhere? Like herpes, they keep coming back and get into every single story on DM when I want to read about the Royal Fambly or mooch's lack of wighats. I finally had to ask my DIL who those people are. I mean, they are like the Honey Boo Boo family but up nawth.

Well, guess I'd better head off to slumber. More crap awaits me mana. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is back from the brink at March 26, 2015 12:05 AM (TIGDR)

358 Thank you for no Yoko, Maet

Posted by: exhippie at March 26, 2015 12:05 AM (+QdPO)

359 352
your gonna be dead soon.

*hits him with club*



Posted by: Monty at March 26, 2015 12:02 AM (o2yvE)



If that's the real Monty and not this Python piker, we're in the terminal stages of bonage.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:0479m)

Watch this action!!!

Posted by: The Full Monty at March 26, 2015 12:06 AM (o2yvE)

360 I do love my little calico cat, she that domesticated herself and it shows...

But I have to hide my good shoes since she loves nothing more than sharpening her claws on leather shoes. The better the shoes the more she hones in on them

My Florsheim wingtips live in the upper shelf of the closet for that very reason.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2015 12:06 AM (t//F+)

361 In the spirit of Dr. Sheldon Cooper's preevning, I'm going to propose:

he>s and s>he as pronouns for the confused ...

Posted by: Adriane the Practical ... at March 26, 2015 12:07 AM (nSOh+)

362 Especially in a week when Cougar, Princess and Beagle are all gone.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26, 2015 12:04 AM (e+1S5)



Dude, you've been there how long? You got nobody?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 26, 2015 12:07 AM (GEICT)

363 "Origins of human alcohol consumption revealed"
-----
Just off the top of my head, I believe that there are elephants in India that scoop up fermenting fruit off the ground at a certain time of year. Apparently, they get quite toasted. How would you like to be a bouncer at that party?

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:07 AM (9iR5/)

364 Hello Horde! Sinus meds are kicking my ass tonight so I will just leave a little note.....

Jack Butler: "I understand that you little guys start out with your woobies and you think they're great... and they are, they are terrific. But pretty soon, a woobie isn't enough. You're out on the street trying to score an electric blanket, or maybe a quilt. And the next thing you know, you're strung out on bedspreads. That's serious, Ken."

Sleep sweet fellow babies!

Posted by: madamemayhem at March 26, 2015 12:07 AM (WPm3x)

365 341
There is no more Bruce Jenner.

There was, once. But he's gone...into the ether..
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky

As I said to a guy who I knew who became a girl. I was so stoned. All that would come out of my mouth was, "a guy has to do what a guy has to do" and I walked away. Nice 10th year hs reunion

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:08 AM (YOPoU)

366 Watch this action!!!

Posted by: The Full Monty at March 26, 2015 12:06 AM (o2yvE)


You're going to spill that Val-U-Rite. Let me hold that for you.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:08 AM (cL79m)

367 My Florsheim wingtips live in the upper shelf of the closet for that very reason.

Gonna get 'em soon!! Workin' on it.

Posted by: Kindltot's Miss Puss at March 26, 2015 12:08 AM (elbY7)

368 MH, I imagine it especially doesn't help when the guy used to be your high school's star quarterback. ;-)

"So THAT's why he always insisted on pantyhose under his uniform..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:09 AM (elbY7)

369 Dicaprio was pretty motivating in Wolf Of Wall Street. Telephone terrorists!

Posted by: billygoatpuke at March 26, 2015 12:11 AM (l5QMI)

370 Can we do the operation?

Is the Jenner dead yet?

You know the boys in the ONT

Got a ruinning bet.

Posted by: Dr. Don Henley at March 26, 2015 12:01 AM (cL79m)


Heh, Good stuff.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 12:11 AM (8zCR+)

371 Kindltot, when we bought our living room furniture, the salesman assured us that the fabric was "cat resistant". Our cat took that as a personal challenge. The score is now: Cat - 1, Living Room Furniture - 0
And our cat is dumber than a bag of hammers, but she beat the salesman.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:11 AM (9iR5/)

372 As I said to a guy who I knew who became a girl. I
was so stoned. All that would come out of my mouth was, "a guy has to do
what a guy has to do" and I walked away. Nice 10th year hs reunion

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:08 AM (YOPoU)

I love that MH. lol.
Ok. Night all. Kittahs going to lull me to sleep.


Posted by: The Full Monty at March 26, 2015 12:12 AM (o2yvE)

373 Who is Bruce wanting to look like? Taylor Swift? That would be hilarious. Or O.J.

I mean, he won the triathalon or Wheaties or something, right? But wanted to do it as a woman. Ok. This is where I get really mixed up. He is a woman, or is becoming one, to date men. Right? Why can't he just be gay and do this vs surgery and hormones and weird crap. Life is weird, Christy, deal with it and your mother issues. pfft xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is back from the brink at March 26, 2015 12:12 AM (TIGDR)

374
Dang, missed Asheville by a few minutes.

Wanted to thank him for reminding me of CC Lemon, and other beverages in Japan.

On the earlier thread, I meant to mention that he had left off my favorite Japanese beverage (at least by name): Pocari Sweat. Perhaps the all-time poor product name-in translation.

Though I like it. Curiously, I can only recall ever drinking it in Dubai, not in Japan.

If weft is around, he will know about Pocari Sweat.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 12:12 AM (afQnV)

375 Old Blue, yep. Cats love a challenge. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:12 AM (elbY7)

376 Chewing stuff..., stuff you never imagined that they would chew.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2015 11:44 PM

Oh she's an expert at that.

We have tons of dog toys. Tell her no and shove a toy in her mouth to chew on, inside of something inappropriate.

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2015 12:13 AM (o/90i)

377 That makes some sense. But I'm never willingly listening to YO for the rest of my life.

Posted by: Farmer at March 25, 2015 11:57 PM

You haven't lived until you've listened to side-B of "Live Peace In Toronto", all the way through. Trust me.

Posted by: otho at March 26, 2015 12:13 AM (tBSrv)

378 Ixquick is the best search engine & if you use it at work it doesn't remember your previous searches.

I'm sorry I can't credit the Yahoo Group member that recommended in 3013.

It's given more detailed results than I've found on 20 years looking for truth about someone I knew was arrested but Ixquick had more detail than most & I'm horrified I did NOT notice signs of drug, alcoho, ecstasy & other drugs. I found using Ixquick.


Thank you, Maetenloch!

I've taken vacation from news & still read some here or might have Fox (taped early Bill O'Ego ) since Boner sold out.
C

Posted by: Carol at March 26, 2015 12:13 AM (sj3Ax)

379
368 MH, I imagine it especially doesn't help when the guy used to be your high school's star quarterback. ;-)

"So THAT's why he always insisted on pantyhose under his uniform..."
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:09 AM (elbY7

It was a shock since we graduated from a Christian hs. He wasn't a jock more of a dirtball. Never came across as feminine. My wife commented on his sharp elbows. I kept my mouth shut.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:14 AM (YOPoU)

380 My wife has been redecorating the living room lately. When she got ready to buy new sofa / loveseat she added money to the budget for declawing the cats.

Posted by: tbodie at March 26, 2015 12:14 AM (Ea0JH)

381 >>>Dude, you've been there how long? You got nobody?

Nah. No friends, and my only acquaintances are the guys and girls I work out with.

I don't care, I'm just bored. And a nice bowl would pass the time nicely.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26, 2015 12:14 AM (e+1S5)

382 #356

Alternate bad news: it broke.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 26, 2015 12:14 AM (IdCqF)

383 Night all.

Bridge of my nose is bleeding like hell and my story is 'I was at the HQ and scratched my nose with long fingernails.'

Yay me.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 26, 2015 12:15 AM (XAFOu)

384 Epobirs, LOL.
Had to think about it for a minute. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:15 AM (elbY7)

385 Nite Full Monty

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:16 AM (YOPoU)

386 ...Alec Baldwin was nominated for an Oscar for that movie and that's the only scene he's in.
As smarter people have pointed out, the genius of that speech is that
half of the people who watch it think that the point of the scene is
"Wow, what must it be like to have such an asshole boss?" and the other
half think, "Fuck yes, let's go out and sell some goddamned real
estate!"


This is one situation where I have sort of a middle-of-the-road opinion. "Wow, Mr. Fuck You speaks some harsh and necessary truths, and it's an awesome scene, and I'm really glad I don't do the sort of work that he's trying to motivate people to do better." Yeah, I've tried sales work, and I'm just not cut out for it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 26, 2015 12:16 AM (9I2hz)

387 I think Ace should add a cursive script to this here pixy machine. I feel like writing cursive, which is sort of sandscrit to today's scholars. Wut you say?

Oops, husband is calling me from box I stuffed him in for FedEx. Need to apply more paper and shrink wrap. later...

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is back from the brink at March 26, 2015 12:16 AM (TIGDR)

388 I don't care, I'm just bored. And a nice bowl would pass the time nicely.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26, 2015 12:14 AM (e+1S5)



Where are you again? Lexington?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 26, 2015 12:16 AM (GEICT)

389 MH: dirtball eh? Maybe he's hiding from the Feds. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:16 AM (elbY7)

390 Awww, come on now! GlenGary Glen Ross is an anti-capitalist drama. This world is a zero-sum game fallacy closed set where no matter what one does, one can not "make it." Jack Lemmon's character exemplifies this concept in that the only way he could "make it" was to commit a criminal act. The workers are given crappy leads that can't be closed, yet if they do not close them they lose their jobs. No matter what they do, they can't "make it." The rules of this game are rigged, but this isn't real life, and we all have known the salesman that has a network of contacts and the ability to make things happen. In the real world, if someone isn't good at sales he or she ends up in another line of work pretty quickly. It's a brilliant play, but let's not pretend that it isn't anti-capitalism and quite erroneous in its zero-sum-game fallacy here. This play was penned by Mamet before his conservative conversion.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 26, 2015 12:17 AM (2/oBD)

391 >>>Where are you again? Lexington?

Maybe 150 miles northwest of there.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26, 2015 12:17 AM (e+1S5)

392 I don't care, I'm just bored. And a nice bowl would pass the time nicely.
Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26

Just curious as I will be traveling are you in a Motel?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:17 AM (YOPoU)

393 Can we do the operation?

Is the Jenner dead yet?


We have the technology.
We can make him better, stronger, whinier.

Posted by: Dr. Rudy Wells at March 26, 2015 12:18 AM (W5DcG)

394 Bruce Jenner doesn't get a clit


Clits are for closers

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:18 AM (zOTsN)

395 she added money to the budget for declawing the cats.
---------
Myself, I would never do that. We let the cat outside and even though she doesn't wander far, there are predators in the neighborhood. I would never deny her the ability to defend herself for my convenience.
Also, I think that it is mutilation. YMMV, and I'm not going to pontificate. Just my view is all.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:19 AM (9iR5/)

396 Is this the gun thread? I need the gun thread. Must have gun thread.

Finished tricking out my M1A. Only .5 moa at 1K but sexy still.
Nightforce glass, featherweight stock, some other bells and whistles...

Oh, and added another handgun to the boat. S and W hammerless .38 spcl. Got a deal on it couldn't pass it up.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:20 AM (x3YFz)

397 The Alec Baldwin character wouldn't get vey far into that speech with me before he would be picking up his teeth.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 12:20 AM (8zCR+)

398
Actually, qdp, isn't pantyhose under a uniform (for some part of the body) a thing for football or baseball? Dunno, only uniforms I ever put on were ice hockey and volleyball and body armor (where breathable under-armor-type stuff was definitely the call in 110-degree heat).

Carol - Ixquick. Only search engine I've used for years.

Part of my ridiculous, futile, pathetic acts of defiance againstFascist Tech - the big tech companies that fuel so much idiocy, degradation, lawlessness, and destruction through their idiotic political donations and voting (staff). Google, which uses taxpayer-subsidized fuel for its private jet fleet (I think that'sa solid rumor), and has weekly meetings at this utterly disastrous, alien, bizarre White House. Oh - and which rarely acknowledge real, important holidays (Sept. 11, Memorial Day, D-Day) but of course are awash in contemporary fake holidays and crap.

Dunno if Ixquick, at some level, just piggy backs on vile parasites like Google, but as I said, "futile, pathetic" act of defiance .....

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 12:21 AM (afQnV)

399 Awesome Farmer. I'm sending Abu Nidal Dreamer your way for training
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 11:46 PM

Thanks so much. I think I'll let the wife continue w/ the training.

At least she won't grow up to be a Muslim terrorist pilot.

Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2015 12:22 AM (o/90i)

400 Anyone who says Ms. Norton is unfit for driving just wants to see her at the back of a bus.

Posted by: LITTLE DICK Durbin at March 26, 2015 12:23 AM (CZexX)

401 rhomboid, that's what I've read re tights for men. Although Under Armor and other companies seem to have tons of "manly" black footless versions of tights nowadays.

In fact in my neck of the woods, I've found it's not uncommon to catch young teenaged men in public in their athletic uniforms, with these types of tights on and showing under their shorts.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:23 AM (elbY7)

402 389 MH: dirtball eh? Maybe he's hiding from the Feds. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015

No, but the Vice Principal caught him smoking on school grounds. Made him smoke a cigar under a metal waste basket in the boiler room. "Chris" passed the test with out puking his guts. He was a guy at the time.

I heard a couple of years after the reunion he/she wasn't doing well had been beaten up bad a couple of times, drinking and drug problems.

Now we have parents/grandparents forcing this fucking trans shit on kids who are not capable of making those type of decisions. Latest example is Eep Honda and his grandson dressed up as a girl. Rot in hell gramps

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:23 AM (YOPoU)

403 ...I forgot to add that in a good company workers are valued and developed. Salespeople are trained, trained, and trained some more. In the real world, if a whole division, department, of location is failing, there are possibly one or two reasons for such failure. First, it is something endemic, structural, and things need to be streamlined - quick! Second possibility is management. A crappy manager can suck the wind out of a whole department if given the chance, and there is nothing more demoralizing than having a boss that is a walking black hole that sucks the life out of his staff. Errors and mistakes occur in the presence of suppression, and it is management that sets the tone.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 26, 2015 12:23 AM (2/oBD)

404 Anyone who says Ms. Norton is unfit for driving just wants to see her at the back of a bus.

Posted by: LITTLE DICK Durbin at March 26, 2015 12:23 AM (CZexX)


Sooner or later, everybody's under my bus.

Posted by: Teh SCOAMT at March 26, 2015 12:24 AM (cL79m)

405 >>>Just curious as I will be traveling are you in a Motel?

No, I'm home. They're gone. But I do way too much travel and pretty much have the shitty business hotel scene wired. Why do you ask?

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26, 2015 12:24 AM (e+1S5)

406 I had a boss that tried screaming at me once. Only once.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 12:24 AM (8zCR+)

407 400 Anyone who says Ms. Norton is unfit for driving just wants to see her at the back of a bus.
Posted by: LITTLE DICK Durbin at March 26, 2015 12:23 AM (CZexX)

Wager a Jackson that she couldn't make it to the back of the bus

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:24 AM (YOPoU)

408 #390: In the real world, if someone isn't good at sales he or she ends up in another line of work pretty quickly.

Yep, that's about how it went for me. Sales is not my thing; production is.

Unless we're talking about my writing, in which case procrastination and uncertainty are my thing. Come to think of it, this applies to my love life, too.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 26, 2015 12:24 AM (9I2hz)

409 Whoa

Saudi is sending 150k troops,into,Yemen.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:24 AM (zOTsN)

410 test?

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 12:25 AM (7d8Ef)

411 Many years ago a coworker came in with a name, phone# and license# for me. In the mall parking lot, he had come across a driver trying to dislodge her van door hinge from my car's bumper by going in reverse, forward, reverse, obviously trying to drive away. He said he knew the owner, she said she didn't have time. I phoned her after a repair estimate and she screamed that I was trying to take her and that she was the WIFE OF A CONGRESSMAN! Judge didn't care. Got my money. She had a very embarrased lawyer with her.

Posted by: Archie Bunker at March 26, 2015 12:25 AM (GzDYP)

412 oooh, yeah, I'm back!

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 12:25 AM (7d8Ef)

413
Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:19 AM (9iR5/)
.
Cats never go outside so self defense is not an issue.

Posted by: tbodie at March 26, 2015 12:26 AM (Ea0JH)

414 Whoa

Saudi is sending 150k troops,into,Yemen.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:24 AM (zOTsN)


I didn't know the Saudi Army had 150k troops. How many guest fighters are they sending, 149K?

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:27 AM (cL79m)

415 At least she won't grow up to be a Muslim terrorist pilot.
Posted by: Farmer at March 26, 2015 12:22 AM

Cool,on your part. It's law she is coming next year. We are ok on the sitting part still working on the paw shaking. He's 10 months old.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:27 AM (YOPoU)

416 I forgot to add that in a good company workers are valued and developed.


Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 26, 2015 12:23 AM (2/oBD)

Decidedly *not* Northrup Grumman or Lockheed Martin.

Worst companies. Evar.

Double on Lockmart. 'em fuckers need to be hanged in the public square.

I give you the F-35 as an easy example but being in the weeds with their PMs? assholes.

Shit, even assholes are offended that I call Lockmart assholes.

bottom feeding armpit smelly bits of failure... each and every fucking one of them.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:28 AM (x3YFz)

417 Saudi is sending 150k troops,into,Yemen.
Posted by: ThunderB
------------------

See? That's how it is done.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 12:28 AM (F2IAQ)

418 Not to worry, Rhomboid, soon, under net neutrality, all your interwebs will belong to google. Then, all of us here can look forward to a rewarding life at Shrillary's Happy Fun Camp, LLC.
I get the top bunk by the window.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:28 AM (9iR5/)

419 Not sure

Isn't this Yemen thing really an iran/Saudi war?

Yikes.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:29 AM (zOTsN)

420 See? That's how it is done.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


I don't get it.

Posted by: Obama at March 26, 2015 12:30 AM (1vYi0)

421 Saudi is sending 150k troops,into,Yemen.

Posted by: ThunderB

------------------



See? That's how it is done.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 12:28 AM


wow. that was quick

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 12:30 AM (7d8Ef)

422 Not sure

Isn't this Yemen thing really an iran/Saudi war?

Yikes.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:29 AM (zOTsN)


Effectively yes. Is the Quds force in Yemen? That's the $5/gallon question.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:30 AM (cL79m)

423 I didn't know the Saudi Army had 150k troops. How many guest fighters are they sending, 149K?
Posted by: steveegg


Probably conscripts from their slave labor pool with the wives held conveniently without passports..

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 12:31 AM (JBzwC)

424 Air-strikes but 150K troops?

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 12:31 AM (8zCR+)

425 I don't get it.

Posted by: Obama at March 26, 2015 12:30 AM (1vYi0)


You're letting the softballs arc by you. You gotta stay on your toes, toes that is.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 26, 2015 12:31 AM (cL79m)

426 Oh, and their effort to unfuck an overbudget clusterfuck?

SBIRS

over a decade late on delivery and about 20 billion over budget.

lockmart couldn't tie two sticks together without fucking it up and overcharging the taxpayer.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:31 AM (x3YFz)

427 408 #390: In the real world, if someone isn't good at sales he or she ends up in another line of work pretty quickly.

Yep, that's about how it went for me. Sales is not my thing; production is.

Unless we're talking about my writing, in which case procrastination and uncertainty are my thing. Come to think of it, this applies to my love life, too.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 26, 2015

We will start a club next week. My dad was a hell of a salesman. He sold gmc trucks for 20+ years then off to sell school buses and parts. The man knew his customers and what they needed and wanted. He could sell furnace to folks in Phoenix and ice to Eskimos.

Me, hey wanna buy this truck? Hats off to a good honest reputable sales reps

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:32 AM (YOPoU)

428 getting back to rickl from the previous thread where pixy had me banneded:

he was pondering common last words of pilots

"The most frequent last words I have heard on cockpit voice-recorder tapes are, 'Oh Shit,' said with about that much emotion. There's no panic, no scream, it's a sort of resignation: we've done everything we can, I can't think of anything else to do and this is it."
Frank McDermott
Partner, McDermott Associates
Specialists in cockpit voice recorders.

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 12:32 AM (7d8Ef)

429 419
Not sure



Isn't this Yemen thing really an iran/Saudi war?



Yikes.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:29 AM (zOTsN)


Pretty much. And we just got within spittin' distance of hydrocarbon parity.....which means that every other nation on the planet will want a say on how things shake out.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 12:32 AM (T1005)

430 Just got through reading the Germanwings crash update. You people that think the windshield failed need to sit back and think about that. All one would hear is the blast of 500 mph wind. No way could a soft tap at the door be heard.

Those comments in the previous thread were driving me crazy.

Posted by: Soona at March 26, 2015 12:33 AM (GjSGU)

431 They say it's a coalition

Getting a lot of help from Egypt.

We didn't know about the coalition. Seems they have figured out we had picked a side.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:33 AM (zOTsN)

432
T9, "only" .5 MOA @ 1K? You planning to shoot out lit matches sticking out of people's mouths, or what? Sounds good to me. I have a related comment I'll share if there's interest.





Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 12:34 AM (afQnV)

433 >>>I had a boss that tried screaming at me once. Only once.

I've had a few bosses that liked to scream. One of em thought he was a real badass.

I stared right through his head every time, no reaction at all. When he asked me "well, aren't you going to say anything?" I calmly replied "I've been thrashed before. Do you really think you scare me more than a guy that caught a bullet in Fallujah?"

He didn't like that answer. I guess I should have respected his authoritah a little more.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26, 2015 12:35 AM (e+1S5)

434 getting back to rickl from the previous thread where pixy had me banneded:

he was pondering common last words of pilots

"The most frequent last words I have heard on cockpit voice-recorder tapes are, 'Oh Shit,' said with about that much emotion. There's no panic, no scream, it's a sort of resignation: we've done everything we can, I can't think of anything else to do and this is it."
Frank McDermott
Partner, McDermott Associates
Specialists in cockpit voice recorders.
Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 12:32 AM (7d8Ef)

having been in the "oh hell this isn't going to end well" scenario a few times, what could have been my last words consisted of:

"shit"

and

"oh fuck"

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:35 AM (x3YFz)

435 421 Saudi is sending 150k troops,into,Yemen.
---------

TFG hasn't given 150 !seconds of thought to the mater

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:35 AM (YOPoU)

436 Pretty much. And we just got within spittin' distance of hydrocarbon parity.....which means that every other nation on the planet will want a say on how things shake out.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 12:32 AM (T1005)


Not to mention Yemen is on the "safe" side of the Gulf of Aden, and pretty much everything flowing from the Persian Gulf on east to Europe (and the oil to America) flows through said gulf.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:35 AM (cL79m)

437 >>>Wager a Jackson that she couldn't make it to the back of the bus

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:24 AM (YOPoU)<<<

Unless it's a short bus, where I definitely belong.

Posted by: Special Ed Eleanor at March 26, 2015 12:35 AM (CZexX)

438 Soona, we'll never know probably.

I know others think it's stupid, but IMHO black boxes just aren't enough in situations such as several recent crashes. Am thinking that some sort of tamper-proof video transmit-to-cloud system really would be useful at this stage.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:36 AM (elbY7)

439 They say it's a coalition

Getting a lot of help from Egypt.

We didn't know about the coalition. Seems they have figured out we had picked a side.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:33 AM (zOTsN)


You're damn right I did. For the Brotherhood!

Posted by: Kane Obama at March 26, 2015 12:37 AM (cL79m)

440 Judge didn't care. Got my money. She had a very embarrased lawyer with her.
Posted by: Archie Bunker
-----------------------------

Heh. I was in traffic court, when a kid who could not have been more than 20 was called up for 15 mph over the limit. Turns out the kid was driving a Ferrari 308. The kid blurted out to the judge that the only reason that the cop stopped him and gave him a ticket was that the cop was jealous that he could not afford a Ferrari.

The judge stared at the kid a moment and said, "I imagine that he gave you a ticket because of your attitude", *bang*, "$150.00 plus court cost". "Next case."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 12:37 AM (F2IAQ)

441 MH, sounds like Dreamer is doing well.
I think by that time, I had Tucker sitting, lying down, staying, and shaking.
At two, he gets Left & Right correct about 80 percent of the time (shake has turned into hi-five). I walk to the mailbox & he stops 15 feet behind me, sits and just waits. If I say it's OK, we cross the street to visit Shirley so he can get a treat.
Still can't get him to speak on command, tho. Unless it's dinnertime - then he SPEAKS.

If/when we go for walks, I put a leash on him, but never hold it. He just drags it. Never a problem - he stops when I tell him to, sits and waits for me.
Kinda amazing how he picked up so much so quickly, really...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 26, 2015 12:37 AM (jjHp6)

442 They say it's a coalition



Getting a lot of help from Egypt.



We didn't know about the coalition. Seems they have figured out we had picked a side.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:33 AM (zOTsN)


Are there any solid reports of troop movements into Yemen? Air-strikes is all that have been reported so far.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 12:37 AM (8zCR+)

443 Saudi is sending 150k troops into Yemen.



You guys playing Risk?

Posted by: President Flounder at March 26, 2015 12:38 AM (JO9+V)

444 Nope. Saudi has pledged 150 k to the coalition. That's just Saudi

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:38 AM (zOTsN)

445
Wait.

The Saudis have 150K troops?!?

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 12:39 AM (ko4zy)

446 T9, I just retired from Lockheed. I am very proud of some of the things I worked on, like the F-22. With the F-35, they were trying to come up with a plane that fit the Government specs. So was every other aerospace company. They weren't Lockheed specs, they were the Government specs. Lockheed was supposed to build the new helicopter that would have been used by the Navy. We won the contract. But once we started building, the Navy started to changed the specs. It would have come in enormously over budget. That project was cancelled.
And by the way, if you like your GPS, Lockheed is building and launching those satellites.
So before you start bitching about government contractors being idiots, you need to start looking at the government demanding those contracts.
Also, I agree about the F-35. It's almost like the ME-262. Awesome air superiority weapon. Hitler wanted it to have a ground attack role like the Stuka. Delayed its deployment by almost two years, lucky for the Allied Air Force.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:40 AM (9iR5/)

447 I know others think it's stupid, but IMHO black boxes just aren't enough in situations such as several recent crashes. Am thinking that some sort of tamper-proof video transmit-to-cloud system really would be useful at this stage.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:36 AM

That sort of thing is in the works. But, it's gonna be hella expensive, apparently. Who's gonna pick up the bill? Passengers. Prices will go up.

Posted by: otho at March 26, 2015 12:40 AM (tBSrv)

448 Apparently. For comparisons sake, we sent 250k into Iraq in 2003

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:40 AM (zOTsN)

449 Just as a historical note on the Yemeni/Saudi situation, until recently, the border wasn't defined at all, and in some spots, it still isn't.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:41 AM (cL79m)

450
I really really hope Israel was savvy enough to not divulge major secrets to the U.S. govt.

They had to have been, right? Because it would be naive to believe that every U.S. president would be an ally.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 12:41 AM (ko4zy)

451 T9, "only" .5 MOA @ 1K? You planning to shoot out lit matches sticking out of people's mouths, or what? Sounds good to me. I have a related comment I'll share if there's interest.





Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 12:34 AM (afQnV)

as a physicist and a sniper, and having run about with Brandon Webb, Chris Kyle, Nick Irving (and Nick is about 5' even and all muscle... I call him Fireplug... great dude) everyone is picky and shaving 0.005 off moa with kit, technique, skillz, wild rabbits and luck is all the rage ; )

Competitive critters.

When yer actually giving a shit about humidity and pressure and the corialis force, you know the big kids are playing.

To me it's more of a science: balancing barrel twist with round mass.... so many variables... it's addicitve.

Good stuff.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:41 AM (x3YFz)

452 "The most frequent last words I have heard on cockpit voice-recorder tapes are, 'Oh Shit,' said with about that much emotion.
-----------------------------

The 14th Street Bridge crash at National.

Copilot: "If you can get her nose up, she'll fly."
Pilot: "Yeah, I know..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 12:41 AM (F2IAQ)

453 433
>>>I had a boss that tried screaming at me once. Only once.



I've had a few bosses that liked to scream. One of em thought he was a real badass.



I stared right through his head every time, no reaction at all.
When he asked me "well, aren't you going to say anything?" I calmly
replied "I've been thrashed before. Do you really think you scare me
more than a guy that caught a bullet in Fallujah?"



He didn't like that answer. I guess I should have respected his authoritah a little more.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at March 26, 2015 12:35 AM (e+1S5)


I had a boss who needed to scream at his sales guy -- who would have folded like a cheap suit. So he screamed at me (Accounting and Operations) instead -- about things that were the sales guy's responsibility.

And I mean screamed -- face flushed, throbbing forehead vein -- "Close those fucking deals! Get those fucking POs! We need backlog!"

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 12:42 AM (T1005)

454 Anyone who says Ms. Norton is unfit for driving just wants to see her at the back of a bus.

She's already a pseudo congressman.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 26, 2015 12:42 AM (W5DcG)

455
Wow. I can't believe I just typed the above.

But here we are. We have a political terrorist in the White House and I'm here hoping that a foreign nation doesn't trust us. Wow.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 12:42 AM (ko4zy)

456 To me it's more of a science: balancing barrel twist with round mass.... so many variables... it's addicitve.

Good stuff.
Posted by: TangoNine
---------------------------------

Squeezing off the round between heartbeats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 12:43 AM (F2IAQ)

457 otho, I'm sure it will be expensive.

Come to think of it, this will all likely be a major selling point for autonomous, driverless cars as well. They'll be sold as (a) an alternative to flying, and (b) an option that, while taking longer, allows you to relax almost as much as you could on an airliner.

"Sleep, read, watch a movie! Let Google do the driving for you!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:43 AM (elbY7)

458 See, these moslem scum just need good paying jobs and they wont have to fly planes full of people into mountains..Obama said so.

Posted by: People Corp at March 26, 2015 12:43 AM (TzeLs)

459
ThunderB, thanks for your (actual) expert commentary on the Bergdahl thing - and please keep it up as things develop.

And yes, I'd bet at least $17 that "advisers" from IRGC/Quds/intel are in Yemen with the Houthis.

Yemen - starting to feel like the 1970s again. South vs. North, tribe vs. tribe.

And keep in mind, all, that Yemen is the one frontier of the Kingdom that remained "interesting" after the 1950s. Trucial States (now UAE) were under British protection. Oman too, but also kind of not core Saudi interest anyway.

But Yemen "should" have been part of al-Saud's conquests, it's the "one that got away". So I'd expect the Saudis to putserious effort, and bring serious tribal/intrigue game, to this one.

Oh - and Adel al-Jubeir is the Saudi ambassador? Ha! Knew him when he was merely a pup, and on his first gig in DC. Back then Prince Bandar was at the peak of his influence and skill as ambassador. Saudis (and othersfrom that area) do not sendseat-warmers to Washington.Come to think of it, right now we've got fifth-rate "Americans" dominatingthe Beltway, yet many countries still send first-rate types there. Interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 12:44 AM (afQnV)

460 436
Pretty much. And we just got within spittin' distance of hydrocarbon
parity.....which means that every other nation on the planet will want a
say on how things shake out.



Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 12:32 AM (T1005)



Not to mention Yemen is on the "safe" side of the Gulf of Aden, and
pretty much everything flowing from the Persian Gulf on east to Europe
(and the oil to America) flows through said gulf.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:35 AM (cL79m)


What I was trying to imply was that we could ride out a total war in Arabia at the moment....but Europe and Asia would be totally hosed. Many countries would be facing a near-existential threat.....and would likely throw-in with one side or the other.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 12:44 AM (T1005)

461 Another way they'll try and sell driverless cars:

Imagine being able to drink yourself stupid blind at a club right up 'til closing time on the weekend. Then when it's time to go home... just climb in, pass out in the back seat, and gurgle to Google, "take me home."

I can see the upsides. I can see the downsides.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:44 AM (elbY7)

462 According to the CIA Fact book, between the Saudi Regular Army and National Guard the number of ground forces is around 250k.

150k would be a rather large portion to send into Yemen?

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 26, 2015 12:45 AM (GoyxN)

463 Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Sudan


They are calling it "Firmness Storm"


Bwhahahhaha

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:45 AM (zOTsN)

464 and my stock on my M1A is amazing except 1 thing (yeah, there's always that one thing)

the cheek weld isn't the best and I have to give up about 20% eye relief *or* slide forward to an unnatural position.

Not a deal breaker, but perfect is perfect and it must be achieved ; )

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:46 AM (x3YFz)

465 Maybe they meant up to 150k

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:46 AM (zOTsN)

466 441
MH, sounds like Dreamer is doing well.

I think by that time, I had Tucker sitting, lying down, staying, and shaking.

At two, he gets Left Right correct about 80 percent of the
time (shake has turned into hi-five). I walk to the mailbox he
stops 15 feet behind me, sits and just waits. If I say it's OK, we cross
the street to visit Shirley so he can get a treat.

Still can't get him to speak on command, tho. Unless it's dinnertime - then he SPEAKS.



If/when we go for walks, I put a leash on him, but never hold it. He
just drags it. Never a problem - he stops when I tell him to, sits and
waits for me.

Kinda amazing how he picked up so much so quickly, really...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 26, 2015 12:37 AM (jjHp6)


I note the absence of "don't nip the Elder God" on that list of abilities.....

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 12:47 AM (T1005)

467 Saudis (and othersfrom that area) do not sendseat-warmers to Washington.
--------------

What are you trying to say?

Posted by: Caroline Kennedy at March 26, 2015 12:47 AM (F2IAQ)

468 Yemen - starting to feel like the 1970s again. South vs. North, tribe vs. tribe.

And keep in mind, all, that Yemen is the one frontier of the Kingdom that remained "interesting" after the 1950s. Trucial States (now UAE) were under British protection. Oman too, but also kind of not core Saudi interest anyway.

But Yemen "should" have been part of al-Saud's conquests, it's the "one that got away". So I'd expect the Saudis to putserious effort, and bring serious tribal/intrigue game, to this one.

Oh - and Adel al-Jubeir is the Saudi ambassador? Ha! Knew him when he was merely a pup, and on his first gig in DC. Back then Prince Bandar was at the peak of his influence and skill as ambassador. Saudis (and others from that area) do not send seat-warmers to Washington.Come to think of it, right now we've got fifth-rate "Americans" dominating the Beltway, yet many countries still send first-rate types there. Interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 12:44 AM (afQnV)


From Teh SCOAMT's perspective, all that's missing is the IslamoCommunists, combining the religion of Obama's youth and the religion of Obama's adulthood (yes, fellow Morons, there was once such a creature in South Yemen).

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:47 AM (cL79m)

469 They are calling it "Firmness Storm"
Bwhahahhaha
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:45 AM


1) Probably better in the original tongue and...
2) I might very well take that as a jab at my administration if I where BO

So, yeah hahahaha!

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 12:47 AM (7d8Ef)

470 So before you start bitching about government contractors being idiots, you need to start looking at the government demanding those contracts.
Also, I agree about the F-35. It's almost like the ME-262. Awesome air superiority weapon. Hitler wanted it to have a ground attack role like the Stuka. Delayed its deployment by almost two years, lucky for the Allied Air Force.
Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:40 AM (9iR5/)

not going to change my mind. I was one of those contractors subbed to LM.

and they were fuckers from start to finish.

Wife works with the now and yup: fuckers start to finish.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:49 AM (x3YFz)

471 and my stock on my M1A is amazing except 1 thing (yeah, there's always that one thing)

Posted by: TangoNine


Is that an after-market stock?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 12:49 AM (JBzwC)

472 From a military perspective, it is an opportunity to battle harden some troops. War games/exercises don't do that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 12:49 AM (F2IAQ)

473 With the US pretty much out of the picture in the ME, it's going to boil down to Iran versus Saudi Arabia. Who is going to win out? Shia or Sunni? And it could go nuclear with Israel as the wild card. The JEF has f*cked the ME up for the next couple of decades all to have a "legacy".

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:49 AM (9iR5/)

474 that Jesus article was kind of dumb, gotta say. anybody with a sliver of knowledge about Judaism could poke various sized holes in it.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 26, 2015 12:50 AM (9iIQZ)

475
It's terribly difficult to defeat an enemy that scurries away like insects and then blends in with the populations to await for another day.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 12:50 AM (ko4zy)

476 I offended some other LM employee here a couple years back. Surprised she didn't ask me for a charge code before she started defending her shitty company of theivery and incompetence.

yes. I have an axe to grind.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:50 AM (x3YFz)

477 rhomboid what do you know about the Saudi's ability to project ground forces regionally?

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 12:51 AM (8zCR+)

478 otho, I'm sure it will be expensive. Come to think of it, this will all likely be a major selling point for autonomous, driverless cars as well. They'll be sold as (a) an alternative to flying, and (b) an option that, while taking longer, allows you to relax almost as much as you could on an airliner. "Sleep, read, watch a movie! Let Google do the driving for you!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:43 AM

As useful as sat transmitted data would be for airlines and I know that it can be useful for problem solving and safety... I'm unsure I'd be onboard with it. I like cheap air travel and as far as it goes, it's not crash prevention. If I'm going into the ground on a flight, I'm not gonna give a fuck what the data says after I'm dead. The sat system will improve data recovery over black boxes to a degree, but, relative to the expense, is it worth it?

Posted by: otho at March 26, 2015 12:51 AM (tBSrv)

479 *bang*, "$150.00 plus court cost". "Next case."Awesome!

This woman had pictures of another dent in my car and told the judge, "see! she doesn't care and won't even use the money to fix her car!" He explained to her that what mattered was that she had damaged property. Pay for it. She was so pissed she messed up the check, had to rewrite it. I bought a stereo.

Posted by: Archie Bunker at March 26, 2015 12:52 AM (GzDYP)

480 Saudi Arabia is using my sphincter color for its new sand camo...

Posted by: MUMR at March 26, 2015 12:52 AM (1mXtG)

481 Is that an after-market stock?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 12:49 AM (JBzwC)

made of baby gay hair.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:52 AM (x3YFz)

482 What I was trying to imply was that we could ride out a total war in Arabia at the moment....but Europe and Asia would be totally hosed. Many countries would be facing a near-existential threat.....and would likely throw-in with one side or the other.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 12:44 AM (T1005)


Europe, most certainly. Asia, not nearly as much (what do they get out of Europe anyway?).

So, will the pEU throw in with the Mad Mullahs or the Mad Sultans?

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:52 AM (cL79m)

483 So, will the pEU throw in with the Mad Mullahs or the Mad Sultans?
Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:52 AM (cL79m)

Whomever can offer us the most oil, bitte.

Posted by: German "Technocrat" with a Clipboard at March 26, 2015 12:54 AM (Z1b6E)

484 Is that an after-market stock?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 12:49 AM (JBzwC)

it's a a composite I picked up at SHOT 2013 from the springfield armory guys.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 12:54 AM (x3YFz)

485
steveegg, aha! another MidEast geek - though actually that's not my specialty, my obscure ridiculous knowledge is mostly by osmosis from a true expert geek I used to work with.

And yes, "Marxist" South Yemen (Aden) was a true wonder of the late Soviet era. Marxist tribal Sunni qaat-chewing Yemenis ..... one hopes that Trotsky and others are spinning in their graves savoring that one.

The Kingdom has minimal force-projection capacity (naturally), so I'd be shocked if there are anything close to 150K troops actually in/around Yemen or border areas. Also, Pakistan and Sudan as part of the "coalition"? Pakistan maybe - officers/advisers, and recall Saudis hosted Paki troops at one point to boost their infantry power. Sudanese? Most capable Sudanese I've known were Sufi interpreters/helpers for us in various colorful locales.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 12:54 AM (afQnV)

486 The Saudis do not like the instability on their southern border. The Egyptians have had trouble and have had their Army in Yemen before.

Both countries know they have no ally with the king putt regime. Both countries are also on the persian hit list. Both countries also know when push comes to shove, Israel is no enemy.

I would say that a Saudi-Egyptian partition of Yemen is possible.

Likelihood?

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 26, 2015 12:55 AM (GoyxN)

487 We will start a club next week. My dad was a hell of a salesman. He sold gmc trucks for 20+ years then off to sell school buses and parts. The man knew his customers and what they needed and wanted. He could sell furnace to folks in Phoenix and ice to Eskimos.

Me, hey wanna buy this truck? Hats off to a good honest reputable sales reps
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 26, 2015 12:32 AM (YOPoU)

******

Ahhhh, but folks in Phoenix don't need furnaces and Eskimos don't need ice, now do they?

A successful salesperson ( my whole career) listens closely to clients needs and sells ways to fill said needs. Full stop. Nothing more.

If you are able to sell them something they do not need once, you will likely never sell them anything again. One and done artists don't last long in Sales.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 26, 2015 12:56 AM (JVKFK)

488 How do you people keep your nics straight after drinkthirty?

Posted by Not Archie Bunker

Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 26, 2015 12:56 AM (GzDYP)

489
What I'd do is set a trap...an alluring trap.

Operation: Bug Light

You draw them in like a swarm by building, say, a giant cross and a giant star of David memorial in, say, Afghanistan. Surround it by enormous walls. Inside the walls is nothing. It's a trap. It's a pit a mile deep.

They enter and never leave. No one lives to tell the tale.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 12:57 AM (ko4zy)

490
So Saudi Arabia and nine other countries, so that's -- let's see -- a coalition of ten nations, led by a dictatorial American President with an obscure past who hates Israel, has started a war in the Middle East.

Hmmmmm -- seems somehow oddly familiar.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 26, 2015 12:58 AM (kdS6q)

491 Something that big, with all those players, and we didn't know about it

Oh he will have a legacy alright. Not the one he thinks

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 12:58 AM (zOTsN)

492 The Saudi Jordan Egypt Israel axis is reality, sub rosa. Imagine it overt...

Posted by: Some Dude at March 26, 2015 12:58 AM (1mXtG)

493 Ahhhh, but folks in Phoenix don't need furnaces and Eskimos don't need ice, now do they?


Winter was cold in Phoenix this year. Both days were brutal.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2015 12:58 AM (UVfht)

494 Blanco, you almost had to put on long undies eh? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 12:59 AM (elbY7)

495
How do you people keep your nics straight after drinkthirty?


.

When does drinknow become drinkthirty?

Posted by: tbodie at March 26, 2015 12:59 AM (Ea0JH)

496 T9, interesting. Depending on where your wife worked, I may know her, or at least heard of her, depending on which project she was working on.
I can't totally disagree with you, nor can I totally agree with you. Like I said, I've worked on projects that I'm very proud of, like THAAD. I did do some good work there.
Are there idiots? Yes, any corporation that large is going to have their fair share of incompetents ,and unfortunately, they all seem to wind up in management.
But there are some really good, intelligent, and competent people working there who totally believe in what they are trying to accomplish.
You sometimes paint with a very broad brush.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 12:59 AM (9iR5/)

497
cm9000, even tho I made a reference to Saudi power projection capacity in last comment, let me answer you by saying "I don't really know" - just an educated guess based on prior, dated expertise.

But it's a border region (even if undefined, as pointed out by steveegg), so "projection" might be quibbled at by some. The Saudi forces are postured and developed (understandably) for defense. Incl. "defense" WITHIN the borders, against, uh, you know - their own people (National Guard used to have this role).

Mortifying beyond words. Not that long ago, I really could have given a solidly-based answer. Yikes.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:00 AM (afQnV)

498 482
What I was trying to imply was that we could ride out a total war in
Arabia at the moment....but Europe and Asia would be totally hosed. Many
countries would be facing a near-existential threat.....and would
likely throw-in with one side or the other.



Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 12:44 AM (T1005)



Europe, most certainly. Asia, not nearly as much (what do they get out of Europe anyway?).



So, will the pEU throw in with the Mad Mullahs or the Mad Sultans?

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 12:52 AM (cL79m)


Looking at http://tinyurl.com/p3u74mr , I think China would be verrrrry interrrrested in a Saudi v Iran showdown, being that Saudi's their #1 supplier, Iran's #3, Oman's #5, and Iraq's #6.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 01:00 AM (T1005)

499 Blanco, you almost had to put on long undies eh? ;-)

I couldn't wear shorts outside for almost a week.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2015 01:00 AM (UVfht)

500 So Saudi Arabia and nine other countries, so that's
-- let's see -- a coalition of ten nations, led by a dictatorial
American President with an obscure past who hates Israel, has started a
war in the Middle East.

Hmmmmm -- seems somehow oddly familiar.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 26, 2015 12:58 AM (kdS6q)


Sounds almost revelatory.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 01:01 AM (8zCR+)

501 Morraco too. But what are they gonna send? British tourists?

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 01:01 AM (zOTsN)

502 Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 12:54 AM (afQnV)

I just pick up enough info to be really dangerous.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 01:02 AM (cL79m)

503 way back in the day at Elf-1, USMTM, we had to train the saudis.

I was more than once the unfortunate passenger in an enclosed space with one of their lieutenants (ya had to have them on missions due to the SOFA).

....and that's when I wanted so badly to remove my sense of smell.

A new england fisherman at sea for two weeks without a shower smells like a bouquet of honey roses compared to the saudis.

dude.

just.... wow.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 01:02 AM (x3YFz)

504 499
Blanco, you almost had to put on long undies eh? ;-)

I couldn't wear shorts outside for almost a week.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2015 01:00 AM (UVfht)


Criminy!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 01:03 AM (T1005)

505
I'm watching an old episode of McMillan & Wife and they were just in a small twin engine plan. I could see the registration number so I looked it up.

A 1968 Beechcraft Baron. Still in service and owned by someone in North Carolina.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:04 AM (ko4zy)

506
A successful salesperson ( my whole career) listens closely to clients needs and sells ways to fill said needs. Full stop. Nothing more.

If you are able to sell them something they do not need once, you will likely never sell them anything again. One and done artists don't last long in Sales.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty


Just my humble, but there are in fact 2 kinds of successful salesmen.

The first is just as you describe; responsive, helpful, and honest.

The second successful sales person is charismatic, dishonest, and - get this - promoted before any of his/her lies catch up with him/her.

Let's not pretend that all sales positions are filled with angels, or that all companies that employ sales staff are either.

***
And that's not to say I agree with the Glengarry critique above. \

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 01:04 AM (JBzwC)

507
And that, folks, is how I spend my evenings...

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:04 AM (ko4zy)

508 Oh wonderful.

Remember the 2011 Salon Meritage murders in Orange County, California? The worst massacre in OC history.

Anyway, per this OCWeekly article, it looks like the perp, Scott Dekraai, will escape the DP... largely because of messups in the local DAs office.

http://tinyurl.com/q5zs9dj

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 01:05 AM (elbY7)

509 Morroco will send chickens - young homos - who are their main economic income source. US and UK pedos drop huge amounts of money on vacation there. Its the Thailand of the ME.

Posted by: Some Dude at March 26, 2015 01:05 AM (1mXtG)

510 rhomboid, thanks for the answer, I was just wondering what all those billions in military we gave the Saudis got them.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 01:05 AM (8zCR+)

511 Looking at http://tinyurl.com/p3u74mr , I think China would be verrrrry interrrrested in a Saudi v Iran showdown, being that Saudi's their #1 supplier, Iran's #3, Oman's #5, and Iraq's #6.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 01:00 AM (T1005)


Only if it affects the Strait of Hormuz. At the moment, it looks to be a localized proxy war astride the Asia-to-Europe sea lines of communication.

If Iran lets loose the Kilos, mines and speedboats (the latter 2 again), Katie bar the door.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 01:05 AM (cL79m)

512
Luap Nor, excellent point about Egyptian intervention in Yemen (last one in 1960s?).

Some dude (and another commenter earlier, forget who) made a key point: with the US essentially not a factor any longer, or at least not a reliable factor in some astonishing respects, the region will do what the rational thing. It's the Persians vs. the Arabs, with a largely (though not cleanly - esp. in Iraq, believe it or not) Sunni/Shi'a split. Um .... with that Israeli thing thrown in.

Not much daylight between the practical interests of Jerusalem on the one hand and Cairo, Amman, Riyadh, and Abu Dhabi on the other. And less and less with every step down in US competence, interest, or reliability.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:06 AM (afQnV)

513 You draw them in like a swarm by building, say, a giant cross and a giant star of David memorial in, say, Afghanistan. Surround it by enormous walls. Inside the walls is nothing. It's a trap. It's a pit a mile deep.

They enter and never leave. No one lives to tell the tale.
Posted by: Soothsayer's


Fantastic.

Now exactly which fictional country do you conjure to do such a feat?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 01:07 AM (JBzwC)

514
The United Republic of Soothistan, of course.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:08 AM (ko4zy)

515 >>So Saudi Arabia and nine other countries, so that's
-- let's see -- a coalition of ten nations, led by a dictatorial
American President with an obscure past who hates Israel, has started a
war in the Middle East.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix

Sounds almost revelatory.
Posted by: cm9000


That deserves a golf-clap.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 01:08 AM (JBzwC)

516 The ME is now out of control. Once the US abrogated its influence due to JEF, the shit is now hitting the fan. Sunni vs Shia, tribe vs tribe, faction vs faction. WWIII is staring us in the face, the JEF hates Israel, and doesn't want to do anything but golf and fundraise and raise racial tensions in the US. ValJar is rooting for the Iranians, and Kerry is toeing the administration line put out by her. We are well and truly f*cked.
Russia may well be the only stabilizing influence in the ME right now, and they are getting frisky in western Europe.
It's going to be an interesting next two years folks.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 01:10 AM (9iR5/)

517
soothsayer, that's cool! (the aircraft from the TV show)

Keep it up, and you'll be bidding for the honorary Non-military Anna Puma Chair in Aviation Info and Trivia!

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:10 AM (afQnV)

518 If Iran lets loose the Kilos, mines and speedboats (the latter 2 again), Katie bar the door.
Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 01:05 AM (cL79m)

they can frontload a punch but have 0 sustainability.

We call these "48 hour threats" because that's about how long before they go from dangerous to out of resources and infrastructure. They can't keep up a fight is the bottom line.

While we, the good old US of A, have been fighting for about two solid centuries. All infighting aside, we're good at it.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 01:10 AM (x3YFz)

519 The second successful sales person is charismatic, dishonest, and - get this - promoted before any of his/her lies catch up with him/her.

Let's not pretend that all sales positions are filled with angels, or that all companies that employ sales staff are either.

***
And that's not to say I agree with the Glengarry critique above. \

*****

Agreed. To me, your second category are the ones I call One and Done Sales critters. I find that they change companies they work for more than getting bumped up in a current company if this is their style. YMMV.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 26, 2015 01:10 AM (JVKFK)

520
The name is the best part. Operation: Bug Light.

or Bug Zapper.

Bzzzzzzzt!

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:10 AM (ko4zy)

521 I note the absence of "don't nip the Elder God" on that list of abilities....

Posted by: cthulhu
-------------------------
Well, if you try THIS shit again, I'll check your whole leg off!

http://tinyurl.com/ng5n6hs

Posted by: Tucker at March 26, 2015 01:11 AM (jjHp6)

522 Without US leadership the Mideast will become chaos. Obama isn't smart enough to get this, but the people around him are.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 01:11 AM (8zCR+)

523 Precisely, Persian vs Arab. Ironically, Persians are far superior to Arabs in nearly any metric, yet we the US have fucked up (in many ways due to U K and Soviet bS) and ended up In the worst possible position...

Posted by: Some Dude at March 26, 2015 01:11 AM (1mXtG)

524
Keep it up, and you'll be bidding for the honorary Non-military Anna Puma Chair in Aviation Info and Trivia!

Ha!

Mention a weapon or a piece of military hardware here and within a minute a link to it will appear!

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:12 AM (ko4zy)

525 Precisely, Persian vs Arab. Ironically, Persians are far superior to Arabs in nearly any metric, yet we the US have fucked up (in many ways due to U K and Soviet bS) and ended up In the worst possible position...
Posted by: Some Dude at March 26, 2015 01:11 AM (1mXtG)


so maybe we should listen to coulter, invade iran, replace leaders convert to Christianity or reform islam.




Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2015 01:13 AM (gsfK5)

526
Actually, cm9000, the Saudis paid for all that. Gulf sheikhdoms tend to pay for all the nice US and Euro military hardware and training.

It's the Egyptians who get the aid. And in the scheme of things, very defensible expenditure since Camp David, I would argue.

Lots of misconceptions about Ba'athist Iraq's military hardware, too. Mostly paid for, in cash or oil. Some of the cash "borrowed" from Kuwait, S.A., and the Emirates. But cash.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:14 AM (afQnV)

527 Let's see. I am rather heartened by the Saudi leadership and their building a regional coalition to push back iran without us sending people to their shit holes

Interesting times

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 01:14 AM (zOTsN)

528 Another point to ponder.

Has anyone heard the Israelis be critical of Putin/Russia. Has anyone heard of Putin/Russia bark at Israel lately?

The Pentagon last week? declassified documents of the Israeli Nuclear program and not one Israeli howled about it?

prince sandtrap threatens Israel via the useless nations and again no one seems to care. No one that really matters that is.

Being ignored has to hurt the duke of five iron's feelings.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 26, 2015 01:14 AM (GoyxN)

529 To me, your second category are the ones I call One and Done Sales critters. I find that they change companies they work for more than getting bumped up in a current company if this is their style. YMMV.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty


Yes, agree 99.99%.

...Spot me a point, will ya' pal, old friend?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 01:14 AM (JBzwC)

530 Russia may well be the only stabilizing influence in the ME right now, and they are getting frisky in western Europe.

It's going to be an interesting next two years folks.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 01:10 AM (9iR5/)


The Russians aren't exactly stabilizing the Middle East - they need the various Islamokazi factions to target each other (and Israel, and American interests) to keep them from marching on Moscow before they can get their Atlantic coastline.

they can frontload a punch but have 0 sustainability.

We call these "48 hour threats" because that's about how long before they go from dangerous to out of resources and infrastructure. They can't keep up a fight is the bottom line.

While we, the good old US of A, have been fighting for about two solid centuries. All infighting aside, we're good at it.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 01:10 AM (x3YFz)


You're assuming that (a) the US Navy will be allowed to do anything about it and (b) the USN ability against the Boghammers hasn't atrophied like the surface fleet's ASW capabilities.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 01:14 AM (cL79m)

531 522
Without US leadership the Mideast will become chaos. Obama isn't smart enough to get this, but the people around him are.
-------
But with ValJar steering the ship, it would appear that she wants the chaos and Iran to win. Her loyalties are not to the US.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 01:15 AM (9iR5/)

532 Mention a weapon or a piece of military hardware here and within a minute a link to it will appear!
Posted by: Soothsayer's


A rock...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 01:16 AM (JBzwC)

533 The Pentagon last week? declassified documents of the Israeli Nuclear program and not one Israeli howled about it?
Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 26, 2015 01:14 AM


Really? Damn. Link? Anyone?

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 01:16 AM (JDOoY)

534 Tango 9s used condom...

Posted by: Some Dude at March 26, 2015 01:17 AM (1mXtG)

535 Lots of misconceptions about Ba'athist Iraq's military hardware, too. Mostly paid for, in cash or oil. Some of the cash "borrowed" from Kuwait, S.A., and the Emirates. But cash.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:14 AM (afQnV)


"Some" being a relative term, which is the major reason why Saddam Hussein went south in 1990.

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 01:17 AM (cL79m)

536 Gotta go everyone. Thanks for the great chat. See you tomorrow. Hope to have news about the job (but doubt I will).

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 26, 2015 01:17 AM (elbY7)

537 It is clear to all our old allies in the Middle East that we have switched sides and are now irans ally

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 01:17 AM (zOTsN)

538
A rock...

She'd find something. A catapult perhaps.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:17 AM (ko4zy)

539 A rock...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 01:16 AM


Hmmm. Any Palestinian military experts in the audience?

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 01:18 AM (JDOoY)

540 537
It is clear to all our old allies in the Middle East that we have switched sides and are now irans ally
-----
Especially to the Israelis. And the JEF wonders why he couldn't get Bibi kicked out of office.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 26, 2015 01:19 AM (9iR5/)

541 Yes, agree 99.99%.

...Spot me a point, will ya' pal, old friend?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 01:14 AM (JBzwC)

*****

Why, sure. *Adds it to order* No problem!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 26, 2015 01:20 AM (JVKFK)

542 "Really? Damn. Link? Anyone?"

Let me go through my browser history but I think it was a Jerusalem Post Article

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 26, 2015 01:21 AM (GoyxN)

543 Well, I've been up way too long. As Johnny Gomez used to say, "Good fight. Good night."

Posted by: steveegg at March 26, 2015 01:21 AM (cL79m)

544
T9, re Straits of Hormuz, and steveegg's and ctulhu's comments about world oil flows - yes, your "48 hour threat" concept rings true - except .....

Today? I don't mean with the competence and commitment of our actual warriors and intel staff, but with the worldview and competence of national leadership.

Was it "Praying Mantis" back in July 1987? Pretty much a perfect object lesson in national will and international affairs. Iran tried to "horizontally" escalate against Iraq's financiers (Kuwait, S.A). US first reflagged Kuwaiti tankers - very clever move, actually. Then dealt with mine problem. Then, best part, when the Persians displayed the limits of their game savvy - we eliminated most of their navy in a few hours, after they gave us the perfect pretext.

Anyway, this ain't no 1987 USA, the alien mediocrity in the Oval Office ain't no RR, and so .... in extremis, the Persians pulling the very risky "nobody moves or the n***er gets it!" move in Hormuzmight NOT be so easily dealt with.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:21 AM (afQnV)

545 in my defense re: Palestinian military hardware, when I was growing up it was more rocks, less katyushas

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 01:23 AM (JDOoY)

546 Ah, steveegg, see that during my comment typing you hit the same issue re Hormuz. Whether we're talking leadership or military capacity, it's a real question whether in 2015 Iran must take US options re a Hormuz contingency as seriously as they once did.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:25 AM (afQnV)

547 Beg pardon it was Arutzshiva

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193175

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 26, 2015 01:25 AM (GoyxN)

548
I wonder if the word rocket was derived from rock??

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:25 AM (ko4zy)

549 Can't find it now, but wasn't there an episode of Future Weapons where the bald dude parodied his own show and pretended to introduce a rock as a weapon?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 01:25 AM (JBzwC)

550 Thanks, LN

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 01:25 AM (JDOoY)

551 rock

http://tinyurl.com/nmret7s

Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2015 01:28 AM (ZbV+0)

552
WRT rocks as weapons and Palestinians .....

Last night's quote of the day source, PJ O'Rourke, had a classic (of course) on the subject. (from memory)

(writing about the first "intifaada" in 1987)

If this had taken place in Panama, instead of the WestBank, the Israelis would have been driven out in a week. But Palestinians, like most non-baseball cultures,throw like girls.

One of his funniestcomments ever. Which is saying a gigantic amount.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:28 AM (afQnV)

553 I wonder if the word rocket was derived from rock??

Posted by: Soothsayer's


"1610s, from Italian rocchetto "a rocket," literally "a bobbin," diminutive of rocca "a distaff," so called because of cylindrical shape. The Italian word probably is from a Germanic source (compare Old High German rocko "distaff," Old Norse rokkr), from Proto-Germanic *rukkon-, from PIE root *rug- "fabric, spun yarn." "

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 01:28 AM (JBzwC)

554 Let's see. I am rather heartened by the Saudi leadership and their building a regional coalition to push back iran without us sending people to their shit holes

Interesting times
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 26, 2015 01:14 AM (zOTsN)

let's make sure we understand that whabi muzzies are entrenched in saud culture.

They're not your friend.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 01:31 AM (x3YFz)

555
speaking of blunt trauma...

I bought a pair of small expandable batons "keychains" off ebay. You can't sell expandable batons on ebay but the seller listed them as keychains, which they are...

It is illegal for me to buy or own an expandable baton in my state. Yeah, really.

12" long, collapsed it is just under 6". It snaps right out to full length with a quick snap of the wrist. Nice solid feel.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:31 AM (ko4zy)

556
cm9000, if you're still here - puzzled by your comment that the folks "around" the president are smart enough to understand the disaster unfolding in the ME.

I don't see that. Quite the contrary, actually. McDonough, Rice, Kerry ..... still not a name who ever could have worked as my intern, based on substantive gravitas.

Now if you're talking select career types working closely with the political principals at the NSC, State, DOD - sure, I'd think their hair's been on fire forever, but ..... what do you do when the fifth-rate mediocre alien freaks have been empowered, twice, by the voters of what was once the greatest power on earth?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:32 AM (afQnV)

557 Our old allies are hoping the US will return to sanity, much like we here domestically are. They, and we, had best get used to disappointment.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 01:32 AM (8zCR+)

558 #548: I don't know about that, but I know "Rockette" was derived from "Rockefeller".

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 26, 2015 01:33 AM (9I2hz)

559 521
I note the absence of "don't nip the Elder God" on that list of abilities....



Posted by: cthulhu

-------------------------

Well, if you try THIS shit again, I'll check your whole leg off!



http://tinyurl.com/ng5n6hs

Posted by: Tucker at March 26, 2015 01:11 AM (jjHp6)



For those who weren't there, I revved Tucker up quite a bit during my visit with Chi....which included miming a cartoon sneak when Chi was out of the room. Of course, this is the same Cthulhu that once handed the godkids back to their parents at the Jelly-Belly factory in Fairfield, CA....free samples!!!

So, in between whipping Tucker to a froth whenever Chi's back was turned and pretending to be an angel while Chi was around, I did managed to get nipped, lightly, no skin broken, just once. I deserved much, much worse -- and it probably took Chi a week to calm Tucker back down.

But it was fun at the time.

Next time I visit Chi, I'll probably try the total mellow thing with Tucker and see if I can get him to fall asleep on me. I got my cousin's abused psycho rescue dog to watch TV curled up next to me with my arm resting on her (though I couldn't pet her).

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 01:33 AM (T1005)

560 "nobody moves or the n***er gets it!" move in Hormuzmight NOT be so easily dealt with.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:21 AM (afQnV)

one of the best movie lines ever.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 01:34 AM (x3YFz)

561
Last week I was watching a couple vids where people were getting attacked my multiple attackers. It made me wonder what I could use, besides lethal weapons, to help me in that type of situation.

Expandable baton. I have to say, even this little bat- keychain I have now will crack a cranium. Definitely shatter bones.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:34 AM (ko4zy)

562 rhomboid, there are very smart people around the president, and they are very good at their destructive work.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 01:37 AM (8zCR+)

563
"1610s, from Italian rocchetto "a rocket," literally "a bobbin," diminutive of rocca "a distaff," so called because of cylindrical shape. The Italian word probably is from a Germanic source (compare Old High German rocko "distaff," Old Norse rokkr), from Proto-Germanic *rukkon-, from PIE root *rug- "fabric, spun yarn." "

Bravo, weft-puma!
We are now all a bit smarter than when we came in.

btw, I happen to know the abbreviation for "PIE" is proto-indo-european

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:37 AM (ko4zy)

564 Mention a weapon or a piece of military hardware here and within a minute a link to it will appear!

There's several I'd like to mention, but I'm keeping my end of the deal on that 77-year non-disclosure agreement.

Here's what I didn't disclose: http://tinyurl.com/qduk4

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2015 01:38 AM (UVfht)

565
ThunderB (you can't still be here?) - not heartened so much as dumb-struck, that we're at a point where US weakness and worse has driven the Saudis and others to basically get on with it without us.

T9 - a wise experienced guy with deep connections in the Gulf once said to me "America HAS no friends in the Arab world". But, but ..... it's not really the point. We actually have had, and do have, Arab allies who are every bit as much allies as many we have had in other consequential struggles. It's about common interests, not love - or what happens after today's demons are vanquished.

"Yes, Yuri, that's all the A-20s and jeeps we have for you on this shipment. Now give the Krauts hell. Good luck" (slink away casting narrowed hard eyes at your Soviet Lend-Lease logistics coordinator .....)

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:38 AM (afQnV)

566 hi all
ugh
back from a long trip
what a shitty day it's been
how is everyone else doing

Posted by: chemjeff at March 26, 2015 01:40 AM (9GG/0)

567 We actually have had, and do have, Arab allies who are every bit as much allies as many we have had in other consequential struggles. It's about common interests, not love - or what happens after today's demons are vanquished.

"Yes, Yuri, that's all the A-20s and jeeps we have for you on this shipment. Now give the Krauts hell. Good luck" (slink away casting narrowed hard eyes at your Soviet Lend-Lease logistics coordinator .....)

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 01:38 AM (afQnV)

jordancomes to mind. and it's funny you said "Yuri" I have an IDF friend named Yuri ; )

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 01:41 AM (x3YFz)

568 I wonder if the word rocket was derived from rock??

Posted by: Soothsayer's
-------------------

Rockettes? No problem: http://tinyurl.com/pkgwfnj

Wait..., perhaps I misunderstood.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 01:41 AM (F2IAQ)

569 I wonder if the word rocket was derived from rock??

Posted by: Soothsayer's
-------------------

Rockettes? No problem: http://tinyurl.com/pkgwfnj

Wait..., perhaps I misunderstood.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 01:41 AM (F2IAQ)

570
hola, heff

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:41 AM (ko4zy)

571 so maybe we should listen to coulter, invade iran, replace leaders convert to Christianity or reform islam.



Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2015 01:13 AM (gsfK5)

yup. I was all for nuking a few small pissant arab countries immediately after 9-11. Why? To send a message.

War is a numbers game, period. Once a war starts, people are going to die, end of story. The thing is to keep your numbers low, and when you do that the lion's share of the total dead ends up on your enemy. WWII death toll was 50-60 million. We lost around 480,000. That sucks, but its good numbers for us and even some of our allies, because we went there and wrecked shit there.

Had we done nothing in WWII it eventually would have came here, and if we didn't go there the axis powers would have been free to spend less time wrecking shit there. With less resistance they would have rolled through countries leaving garrisons, and been a lot more rested to come fuck with us, and then WE would have the wrecked cities and huge civilian dead. Less there, more here. We would have shared a larger number of the total dead. But since we went there we skated compared to Europe. 50 mil dead there, .5 mil here instead of 30mil dead there and 20 mil dead here.Its a numbers game. The fucking japs killed 100,000 Chinese JUST in the search for the Doolittle raiders.

So..think about 9-11. Between all the scumbags we killed, and the innocent people the scumbags themselves killed, and the pople dying in Syria, etc, we got what, 4-500,000 dead? 600,000? And we lost over 4000 guys in there somewhere.

I would have hit 2 cities with fucking nukes, 1 of them being the Iranian capitol, and the other being that fucking borg cube for a total that's probably less than where we are now anyway. It would have showed those goat fuckers that we mean business and we would burn them from space if they don't cut the shit.

Oh yeah, our 4000 would probably still be alive too. I like those numbers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2015 01:42 AM (FMbng)

572 Twice...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2015 01:42 AM (F2IAQ)

573
I definitely appreciate a good leg.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:43 AM (ko4zy)

574 I definitely appreciate a good leg.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 01:43 AM (ko4zy)


In a chicken yes, in a woman I prefer two.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 26, 2015 01:47 AM (8zCR+)

575 So, if WWIII erupts the night of the NCAA championship. Odds of Barky getting off the sofa?

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at March 26, 2015 01:49 AM (JoIcn)

576 in a woman I prefer two..

Butt it's not legs I'm talking about.

Posted by: tbodie at March 26, 2015 01:49 AM (Ea0JH)

577 The current Middle East situation is far more complicated than the Sunni vs. Shiite paradigm we've grown so used to.

ISIS is a Sunni group.

They're opposed by the Sunni nations Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia... eh, there are more, but you get the idea. Special mention goes to Iraq, which was Sunni under Saddam Hussein's rule but is now Shiite.

They're also opposed by Shiite nations Iran and Iraq.

At the same time, they're supported by Sunni nations like Turkey and the now-lawless Libya, as well as the not-quite-a-nation Palestinians.

Jewish nation Israel opposes ISIS. The ostensibly Christian US supports both ISIS and most of its enemies, as well as its allies, while ISIS considers us an enemy. And we now treat our allies as enemies and our enemies as allies. While our allies got the memo, our enemies didn't. Or, more likely, they did, but they still consider us enemies.

Yeah, like I said... it's complicated.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 26, 2015 01:50 AM (9I2hz)

578 So, if WWIII erupts the night of the NCAA championship. Odds of Barky getting off the sofa?

On his own or propelled by jihadi smuggled nuke?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2015 01:50 AM (UVfht)

579 So, if WWIII erupts the night of the NCAA championship. Odds of Barky getting off the sofa?

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at March 26, 2015 01:49 AM (JoIcn)


I would say pretty good. The enemy probably already set him up with his own cushy bunker so he play his little gay harp and watch shit burn. Just like some other man child tyrant with an IQ of 30 did 2000 years ago.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2015 01:52 AM (FMbng)

580 So, if WWIII erupts the night of the NCAA championship. Odds of Barky getting off the sofa?

odds this improves the U.S. response
FIFY

Posted by: tbodie at March 26, 2015 01:53 AM (Ea0JH)

581 "So, if WWIII erupts the night of the NCAA championship. Odds of Barky getting off the sofa?"

My bookie says he will not take bets made on statistical impossibilities.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 26, 2015 01:54 AM (U7H1n)

582 >>>So, if WWIII erupts the night of the NCAA championship. Odds of Barky getting off the sofa?

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at March 26, 2015 01:49 AM (JoIcn) <<<

Don't be absurd.
I watch tv in bed... with Reggie.

Posted by: Beary O'Brackets at March 26, 2015 01:56 AM (CZexX)

583 now don't be silly.
everyone knows barky doesn't watch TV. he gets all of his info when he reads the newspaper in the morning.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 26, 2015 02:00 AM (9GG/0)

584 If only that Seamless ad were real...

Posted by: sinalco at March 26, 2015 02:01 AM (bqB4w)

585 sinalco yeah i'm kinda thinking that too.
i wouldn't mind at all having takeout delivered to my window via drone

Posted by: chemjeff at March 26, 2015 02:02 AM (9GG/0)

586 i wouldn't mind at all having takeout delivered to my window via drone

*Applebee's stock crashes*

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2015 02:02 AM (UVfht)

587 So, everyone, someone, catch me up (been away from the computer for 10 hours):

What is the consensus at this moment about why the pilot was locked out and couldn't get back into the cockpit?

Options include:

1. The co-pilot was a secret Muslim terrorist who purposely locked him out and then crashed the plane intentionally as an act of terrorism.

2. The co-pilot passed out/had a heart attack/suffered a decompression and couldn't let the other pilot in because he was unconscious.

3. The door just inexplicably jammed and couldn't be opened from either side.

4. The co-pilot was a schizo maniac who locked out the other pilot not for political or religious reasons but because he was personally insane.

5. While the first pilot was off going pee, a terrorist briefly impersonated him by getting up and knocking on the cockpit door, saying to the pilot still in there, "It's me, the pilot, I'm done going pee now, let me back in," and then when the co-pilot cracks open the door, the terrorist rushes in, kills or disables him, then locks the door and crashes the plane.

6. Something else I haven't thought of.

Amongst those options, which one are people saying is the most likely?

Posted by: zombie at March 26, 2015 02:03 AM (K4YiS)

588 "Without US leadership the Mideast will become chaos."

Way too late for that.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at March 26, 2015 02:03 AM (JgC5a)

589 Ahh, I see now it was a stupid question. To make it more interesting, odds of him getting off the sofa if the ME explodes during the Master's?

Not final round mind you, let's say second or third.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at March 26, 2015 02:04 AM (JoIcn)

590 ok good night all.
I have to face a stern talking-to from my chair in the morning.
ugh.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 26, 2015 02:05 AM (9GG/0)

591
I thought it was the co-pilot who was locked out??

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 02:07 AM (ko4zy)

592 My opinion on your Middle East policy, Barack?
It's gold, Barry....gold!!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at March 26, 2015 02:08 AM (JoIcn)

593 591
I thought it was the co-pilot who was locked out??
Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions


Whatever their official titles were -- you know what I mean:

Pilot-y dude #1 who exited the cockpit
Pilot-y dude #2 who remained in the cockpit.

Posted by: zombie at March 26, 2015 02:09 AM (K4YiS)

594 "Amongst those options, which one are people saying is the most likely?"

number one.

Airplane is in perfect condition according to inspection the day before the flight. No mayday.

Posted by: Thor's feather duster at March 26, 2015 02:09 AM (JgC5a)

595 I know I've posted this here more than once, but in the spirit of the question, "Was Jesus a Nonviolent Pacifist?", here's the awesome post-Oderus cover of "West End Girls" by Gwar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5K4Py1L7mc

"Kicking in chairs and knocking down tables", indeed. Check out Jesus kicking the money-changers out of the temple if you don't think there's just a bit of a parallel, there.

Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 26, 2015 02:10 AM (9I2hz)

596 "Not final round mind you, let's say second or third."

My bookie will you only 2-1 odds on that one.

I'll quote you the reason, "youse thinks he wants to watch all those whiteys golf?

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 26, 2015 02:10 AM (U7H1n)

597 587 It was those shape shifting joos who did it!

Yes, yes.....death to America.

Posted by: Ayatollah Kholmeini at March 26, 2015 02:12 AM (JoIcn)

598
zombie, I don't think there's a consensus. Could be wrong.

Think most are waiting for (lots) more info before "serious" speculation gets under way.

I haven't yet gone there, but if you are as diligent as I think and really want to get into the weeds with mostly well informed speculation, go to pprune.net (?) - anyway, easy to find. Professional pilots rumor network.

The "go-to" blog (just comment threads, really) for civil aviation incidents.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 02:12 AM (afQnV)

599 pprune.org, that would be

Posted by: rhomboid at March 26, 2015 02:14 AM (afQnV)

600 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 26, 2015 02:16 AM (UVfht)

601 Hey Zombie and everyones else,

I bought into the Jihadi pilot scenario initally, but it's been a couple days now. If there was any audio that supported this theory with Allah being mentioned on the voice recorder in the last 8 fatal minutes it would have been leaked by now, I would think. The no names of the pilots being mentioned still gives me pause.

I'm not sure anymore.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 26, 2015 02:20 AM (4RRDi)

602 I'm inclined towards it being intentionally crashed, although it's still very early in the investigation.

Motives why? There's examples in the past of crazy/pissed off, financially strapped people, and some whacko muslims who took down planes.

Could the motivation be muslim sympathy? Maybe. I'd say the fact that no pilot names have been released yet is.....odd to say the least.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at March 26, 2015 02:21 AM (JoIcn)

603 Jack Lemon's character should have knocked his teeth out, on the spot. And then pissed on his moaning dumb ass. That would have been inspirational. Anything else is bullshit and hype. Someone comes into your place acting like that, ya' f*ckemup, or at least make them prove that they have more going on than threats from "down town".

Posted by: goon at March 26, 2015 02:22 AM (gNTQS)

604 587
So, everyone, someone, catch me up (been away from the computer for 10 hours):



What is the consensus at this moment about why the pilot was locked out and couldn't get back into the cockpit?



Options include:



1. The co-pilot was a secret Muslim terrorist who purposely locked
him out and then crashed the plane intentionally as an act of terrorism.



2. The co-pilot passed out/had a heart attack/suffered a
decompression and couldn't let the other pilot in because he was
unconscious.



3. The door just inexplicably jammed and couldn't be opened from either side.



4. The co-pilot was a schizo maniac who locked out the other pilot
not for political or religious reasons but because he was personally
insane.



5. While the first pilot was off going pee, a terrorist briefly
impersonated him by getting up and knocking on the cockpit door, saying
to the pilot still in there, "It's me, the pilot, I'm done going pee
now, let me back in," and then when the co-pilot cracks open the door,
the terrorist rushes in, kills or disables him, then locks the door and
crashes the plane.



6. Something else I haven't thought of.



Amongst those options, which one are people saying is the most likely?

Posted by: zombie at March 26, 2015 02:03 AM (K4YiS)


That's focusing the speculation in the wrong place.

Why do we know the names of dead passengers and crew, but not the pilots?

Why did the leaders of France, Germany, and Spain meet before releasing statements at the scene?

Why was this little tidbit leaked, without transcripts and tapes?

The deaths of 150 people are one thing.....but the possible government collusion behind the coverup/controlled reveal is another.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 02:24 AM (T1005)

605 i didn't go read all the comments on the other thread (got home from a meeting, only to have the alarm go off at Resident Evil's side business, so we had to go wait for LAPD to arrive check things out...good news is, something fell over set off the motion detector.)

regarding the theory that the windshield blew out.

the cockpit door is many things, but air tight isn't one of them. if he was locked out, and the plane was diving, smart money says either the other pilot took everyone with them, or there was some other sort of failure.

anyone wanna lay odds that the person at the wheel was a recent convert to the religion of pieces?


Posted by: redc1c4 at March 26, 2015 02:25 AM (Vha1U)

606 Jack Lemon's character should have knocked his teeth out, on the spot. And then pissed on his moaning dumb ass. That would have been inspirational. Anything else is bullshit and hype. Someone comes into your place acting like that, ya' f*ckemup, or at least make them prove that they have more going on than threats from "down town".
Posted by: goon


What an alpha male... *swoon*

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 02:26 AM (JBzwC)

607 601 It's very odd that there's been no release. We're assuming no jihadi motivation because there's no Allahu Ackbar.... But if he's just whispering it or silently saying it, it might not register on the recorder.

I'd feel more inclined to believe in a non-sinister explanation if the guy's name ends up being Gunther Mahlberg. Might still be intentional, but probably less likely.

If it ends up his name is Muhammed bin Muhammed....all bets are off.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at March 26, 2015 02:27 AM (JoIcn)

608 "or-- the standard maneuver when narcissism is confronted with a greater
power-- quietly seethe and fantasize about finding information that will
out him as a hypocrite."

Not any more; now you just fake up a rape charge and get him fired / jailed.

Posted by: SDN at March 26, 2015 02:28 AM (0OFlK)

609 607
601 It's very odd that there's been no release. We're assuming no jihadi
motivation because there's no Allahu Ackbar.... But if he's just
whispering it or silently saying it, it might not register on the
recorder.



I'd feel more inclined to believe in a non-sinister explanation if
the guy's name ends up being Gunther Mahlberg. Might still be
intentional, but probably less likely.



If it ends up his name is Muhammed bin Muhammed....all bets are off.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at March 26, 2015 02:27 AM (JoIcn)


Let me go you one further -- if his name is Gunther Mahlberg, aged 63, 5'8", 280 lbs., then the focus will abruptly change. If his name was Hans Friedenstahl until last year, at which point it became Muhammed bin Muhammed, then the focus will abruptly change another direction. If his name was Johann Schmidt, aged 32, recently had a romantic breakup from his partner of 15 years -- well, then, it's something else.

But we're not being informed of his name.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 02:34 AM (T1005)

610 >>> But we're not being informed of his name.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 02:34 AM (T1005)

Yeah, I keep coming back to this. It's a sticking point.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 26, 2015 02:42 AM (2x3L+)

611
I reckon Airbus would be eager to release his name if they knew it, which they probably do.

Airbus wants this to be anyone's fault but there's. The airline, on the other hand, dreads the fact that one of their pilots was a suicidal maniac, if that's the case.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 02:43 AM (ko4zy)

612
... we're not being informed of his name.


This is the bottom line.

I'm inclined to go with the cracked window theory, and that the glass finally gave up, by sheer coincidence, when only 1 guy was in the cockpit. Even if the pilot and copilot had both been in the cockpit ...

... but if the cracked window theory was known(and apparently, a crack incident had happened earlier, and this plane reputedly was nearing disposal ... there must be a procedure) OR a crack was seen in the window ... why weren't the pilot and/or copilot strapped in, with masks already on?

I'd really like to hear the names.

Posted by: Arbalest at March 26, 2015 02:46 AM (FlRtG)

613
When a plane goes down, everyone; the airline, the manufacturer, the government, and even the airport from it where departed goes immediately into ass-covering mode. Their first interest is to themselves.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 02:46 AM (ko4zy)

614 611


I reckon Airbus would be eager to release his name if they knew it, which they probably do.



Airbus wants this to be anyone's fault but there's. The airline, on
the other hand, dreads the fact that one of their pilots was a suicidal
maniac, if that's the case.





Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 02:43 AM (ko4zy)


I'm assuming you mean "Lufthansa" (the parent company of the airline) everywhere you said "Airbus" (the manufacturer of the airplane).

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 02:47 AM (T1005)

615 Maet, I don't know if you're up or if you will even read this...

...perfect ONT is perfect, thank you. I'm on the cusp of something new and scary and possibly life changing, and the topic is 100% prescient to my situation at this very moment, literally this second. Not a fake literary, a real one. Gotta get back to working on that lifechanging stuff, but I just wanted to pop in and let you know that your timing for this ONT could have not been more perfect, and you are the best.

(Until you do several days in a row of punishment ONTs again, that is. Truly was like gaping into the maw of horror for a bit, hah! But for the moment you are my favorite person.)

Posted by: LizLem at March 26, 2015 02:48 AM (yRwC8)

616 612


... we're not being informed of his name.





This is the bottom line.



I'm inclined to go with the cracked window theory, and that the
glass finally gave up, by sheer coincidence, when only 1 guy was in the
cockpit. Even if the pilot and copilot had both been in the cockpit ...



... but if the cracked window theory was known(and apparently, a
crack incident had happened earlier, and this plane reputedly was
nearing disposal ... there must be a procedure) OR a crack was seen in
the window ... why weren't the pilot and/or copilot strapped in, with
masks already on?



I'd really like to hear the names.



Posted by: Arbalest at March 26, 2015 02:46 AM (FlRtG)


....and the noise in the cabin....

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 02:49 AM (T1005)

617
Back in January, IS called for muslims to carry out more attacks.

6 days ago this: An alleged American ISIS fighter in the Islamic State posted a call to Twitter on Thursday for Muslims to murder Americans (specifically veterans) at patriotic parades and to 'take down' President barack obama.

And recently IS said it will target places such as the Eiffel Tower.

Muslims hear this crap and some will actually do attempt to act out. So when a seemingly perfectly airplane is ditched into the ground at full tilt at a steady descent with evidence of the second pilot being locked out of the cockpit, my first thought is jihad. Call me wacky and paranoid.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 02:53 AM (ko4zy)

618 Owls? Do they taste like chicken?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2015 10:57 PM (YOPoU)


I'm told they taste like Bald Eagle, but you didn't hear that from me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2015 02:54 AM (KefbY)

619
Well, I meant Airbus would be relieved if it turns out it was a muslim maniac, whereas Lufthansa would not.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 02:55 AM (ko4zy)

620 Wonder how she'd handle the scalp of Debbie Wassaman-Schultz?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 25, 2015 11:03 PM (FsuaD)


"Hey kids, I got us some shag carpet!" Owlet: "Sniff, sniff. It smells like mayonnaise."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2015 02:59 AM (KefbY)

621 Interesting info from NYT commenter.

"Scott L
PacNW 1 hour ago

This should answer some of the questions raised in the comments. From The Sydney Morning Herald's current website:

"An Australian A320 pilot, who declined to be named, said the locked flight deck of the aircraft could be entered using an emergency code on a keypad. In the case of the pilot flying the aircraft being incapacitated, the door will automatically open after a set period of time if the correct code is entered.

"However, in the event a pilot flying the aircraft does not want the other pilot to enter the flight deck, the one in the cockpit has the ability to block entry if he reacts before the door would be opened automatically.

"'If the person on the other side of the door says 'no', you can't get in,' the Australian pilot said."

"A 2002 Airbus promotional video showed the reinforced flight deck could be entered after 30 seconds provided the right code was provided in the event of no response from pilots, but there is a manual override on the feature during that period"

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 02:59 AM (JDOoY)

622 621
Interesting info from NYT commenter.

"Scott L
PacNW 1 hour ago

This should answer some of the questions raised in the comments. From The Sydney Morning Herald's current website:

"An
Australian A320 pilot, who declined to be named, said the locked flight
deck of the aircraft could be entered using an emergency code on a
keypad. In the case of the pilot flying the aircraft being
incapacitated, the door will automatically open after a set period of
time if the correct code is entered.

"However, in the event a
pilot flying the aircraft does not want the other pilot to enter the
flight deck, the one in the cockpit has the ability to block entry if he
reacts before the door would be opened automatically.

"'If the person on the other side of the door says 'no', you can't get in,' the Australian pilot said."

"A
2002 Airbus promotional video showed the reinforced flight deck could
be entered after 30 seconds provided the right code was provided in the
event of no response from pilots, but there is a manual override on the
feature during that period"


Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 02:59 AM (JDOoY)


They think of everything!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 03:01 AM (T1005)

623
Yeah, there has absolutely got to be ways for a crew member to open that door. I cannot believe they'd forego emergency planning in the design of the lock.

But I can also understand there existing an override, as you mention above, by the person inside the cockpit just in case the Bad Guys ever got hold of the secret to opening the door from the outside, or held a crew member at gun-knife point to gain entry.

Posted by: Soothsayer's wacky futuristic predictions at March 26, 2015 03:02 AM (ko4zy)

624 Hmmm.... http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/204136/

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 03:04 AM (T1005)

625 IF that info is correct then intentional actions of the first officer would seem to be close to 100% in the odds department. The door was manually locked specifically to prevent re-entry by the other pilot.

Why the leisurely 8 min descent?

Who knows. Maybe dude just wanted to die in the Alps.

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:08 AM (JDOoY)

626 Is he heard on the CVR singing any Julie Andrews?

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:12 AM (JDOoY)

627 >> Is he heard on the CVR singing any Julie Andrews?

Well it's a safe bet he wasn't yodeling Dixie.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2015 03:18 AM (Du4AU)

628 626
Is he heard on the CVR singing any Julie Andrews?


Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:12 AM (JDOoY)


"The Hills Are Alive.....With the Sound of Adhan....."

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 03:19 AM (T1005)

629 i saw this comment over @ the Jawa's on their post for the subject

"6
Asian or a suicide.

With the autopilot engaged,set an altitude of around sea level,
select "open descent" and push the expedite button on the dash. The Air
Bus will fly .80 Mach till indicated airspeed reaches 340 knots
indicated airspeed and will hold that all the way till the selected
altitude. Except that the terrain in that area was 6000 ft. (My level of
experience in the A320-24 years, last 19 as Capt)

Posted by: Bill Cook at March 25, 2015 11:59 PM"

seems reasonable to me.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 26, 2015 03:27 AM (I8nxO)

630

#9834;

"Do,
a deer,
a female deer

Range ,
8 minutes to the alps...

#9835;

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:30 AM (JDOoY)

631 aw darn, those were supposed to be musical notes

dark humor fail

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:31 AM (JDOoY)

632 630


#9834;

"Do,
a deer,
a female deer

Range ,
8 minutes to the alps...

#9835;


Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:30 AM (JDOoY)


"The Lonely Goatherd" -- oh, wait, that's already there! http://tinyurl.com/nhj7sox

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 03:34 AM (T1005)

633 oops "Do" = "Doe"

not even drinking...

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:34 AM (JDOoY)

634 #9835;

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:36 AM (JDOoY)

635 dammit

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:37 AM (JDOoY)

636 Not releasing the pilot's name is pretty damn suspicious. Its going to get to a point where they just can't lie and cover for this shit anymore. You can't trust muslims anymore than you could have Klingons or Romulans on Kirk's enterprise. Not as pilots, not in the military, not in government, nowhere. As far as "peaceful" ones are concerned, yeah fuck them too. Anybody staying in a religion that continually murders in the name of their god and kills like its free and commits the atrocities we're seeing has some serious screws loose. They need to be banned from the west.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 26, 2015 03:48 AM (FMbng)

637 I've seen two other references to what the NYT commenter said (post 621).

Still can't confirm it but bro. is a commercial pilot. I'll ask.

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:51 AM (JDOoY)

638 The pilot was probably Ted Cruz's campaign manager.

That plane crashed harder than Ted's Presidential run.

Ha. Haha.

**crickets** **tumbleweed rolls through set**

We sure do hate that uppity bastard.

Posted by: MSLSD panel tomorrow morning at March 26, 2015 03:53 AM (CZexX)

639 and upon learning of the pilot in question's last name is Hussein:

"Latino Muslim"

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:56 AM (JDOoY)

640 I think, re:T.C., "Uppity Bastard" belongs in the AoSHQ stylebook.

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 03:57 AM (JDOoY)

641 Up, uppity, and away!

Posted by: Super Cruz at March 26, 2015 04:00 AM (CZexX)

642 fun pilot quote from pprune.org:

In the freighter I fly, we manage to make our own coffee, heat our own
meals and use the toilet without the help of an air hostess, all the
whilst complying with our SOP. If a galley and toilet were located
behind the cockpit door and my colleague were to become suicidal, at
least I would have a chance to disable him without being locked out of
the office, as long as he doesnt have over 100ml of toothpaste or
deoderant on him.

Posted by: jammer at March 26, 2015 04:00 AM (JDOoY)

643 since I'm alone here, I'll just hose out the barrel.

/hums "little bit of chicken fried" from the zac brown band.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 04:22 AM (x3YFz)

644 609

And if his name turns out to be Hans Gruber?
Then what?

Posted by: Tucker at March 26, 2015 04:24 AM (BISbA)

645 644
609



And if his name turns out to be Hans Gruber?

Then what?

Posted by: Tucker at March 26, 2015 04:24 AM (BISbA)


@609 points out 3 very different scenarios.....it is fairly obvious that the composition of the flight crew may be very germane to the investigation.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 04:28 AM (T1005)

646 Normally ain't up this late.

Funny bit is 24 years ago at 0230 I'd be slammin the door to my truck, adjusting my campaign hat, walking into the tunnel of the 3711 BMTS with a cup of coffee for the poor bastard pushing 1 on 1 and had to pull CQ.

Humid texas air and the smell of the dining hall team firing up breakfast and fighting off the 30lbs roaches. the rank odor of new uniforms and fear.

Coming in the back door with a key I ain't supposed to have to see if the dorm guard is asleep...

Brings a tear to my eye.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 04:28 AM (x3YFz)

647 You don't know who Hans Gruber is, do you?

Posted by: shredded chi at March 26, 2015 04:30 AM (BISbA)

648 You don't know who Hans Gruber is, do you?
Posted by: shredded chi at March 26, 2015 04:30 AM (BISbA)

Die Hard!

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 04:33 AM (x3YFz)

649 647
You don't know who Hans Gruber is, do you?

Posted by: shredded chi at March 26, 2015 04:30 AM (BISbA)


It didn't immediately hit me, but I'm doing a few things at the same time.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 04:34 AM (T1005)

650 It didn't immediately hit me, but I'm doing a few things at the same time.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 04:34 AM (T1005)

what the hell are you doing at 0230 that doesn't involve bleach and a chainsaw?

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 04:36 AM (x3YFz)

651 what the hell are you doing at 0230 that doesn't involve bleach and a chainsaw?

Posted by: TangoNine
-------------------------
Seeing as it's only 0130 in his world, maybe it's lime and a shovel?
But I learned long ago not to ask those kinds of questions.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 26, 2015 04:40 AM (BISbA)

652 650
It didn't immediately hit me, but I'm doing a few things at the same time.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 04:34 AM (T1005)



what the hell are you doing at 0230 that doesn't involve bleach and a chainsaw?

Posted by: TangoNine at March 26, 2015 04:36 AM (x3YFz)


It's 1:30 here. Using the whole-house fan and not the AC, the temp just hit optimum sleeping -- 63 degrees. I was shutting down the whole-house fan and checking the skylights, windows, and vents -- and making sure the heater will kick in briefly in the morning to help the fiancee wake up. In addition, today is trash day and I was checking that everything normally locked between the garbage area and the street was secure. Then I was shutting down the lights on the far-end of the house since all I'll need to do later tonight is stagger to the next room.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 04:44 AM (T1005)

653 I'd also brewed the fiancee some iced tea for tomorrow that I needed to get in the fridge and....I'm out of beer in the house, so I need to jump out to the garage for some cold ones.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 04:48 AM (T1005)

654 So, yeah, it's like shift-change at Casa de Cthulhu. But I'm back, now.



Who the hell is Hans Gruber?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 04:50 AM (T1005)

655 fyi, regarding above comment
there is a youtube video from airbus explaining the security door in great detail.

The one I saw is for a second generation door, so not clear if all airbus now use this or if some have old version, but

the above is correct -- the man in the cockpit can lock you out, but it has to be an intentional act, not loss of consciousness.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 26, 2015 04:55 AM (LWu6U)

656 Let's see....there's a Canadian conductor.....


Ahhh....Snape in Die Hard.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 05:01 AM (T1005)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 26, 2015 05:02 AM (wlDny)

658 looking at reddit, it really is funny watching those idiots stumble over these facts and try to find an explanation since they are all programmed to believe that terrorism is inconceivable.

comments like people saying our irrational fear of terrorism made the US require security doors that made it impossible to help the poor pilot that must have had a heart attack and slumped over the "steerer" (no i did not make that up.)

other comments saying that if he wanted to kill himself, why didn't he just use a gun instead of taking a whole airplane of people with him.

another one that i liked was where someone listed all the recent murder/suicide pilots and said it was unfortunate that they all "happened" to be muslim. Someone with poor grasp of logic said that those countries are majority muslim, so what else would you expect.... (not understanding the correlation that majority Christian countries do not have these things happening.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 26, 2015 05:02 AM (LWu6U)

659 What an alpha male... *swoon*
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 26, 2015 02:26 AM (JBzwC)


Just honest, not alpha. Hated it when I saw the movie years ago, and hate it still. I stand by my instincts. Those folks were sheep, and they shouldn't have been.

Posted by: goon at March 26, 2015 05:04 AM (gNTQS)

660 Pretty good info here -- complete with photo of switch which co-pilot could use to keep pilot out

http://tinyurl.com/PilotLockedOut

/ my vote? Amish. Again.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 26, 2015 05:12 AM (xQX/f)

661 Why the leisurely 8 min descent?


there was another instance where the pilot programmed the autopilot to drill into the ground. I think in africa, but don't remember exactly.

I think a lot of these people are nuts, and there is no figuring out nuts. but punching 100ft into the computer seems like a way to get it over with and prep for defense. Especially on airbus, where there are a lot of software protections to keep you from doing stupid stuff like stalling.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 26, 2015 05:16 AM (LWu6U)

662 I think pilot leveled plane out at 38,000 feet and took a leak. Co-pilot set autopilot to 6800 feet - a leisurely descent. Plane dropped for eight minutes then leveled off. Meanwhile pilot returns, can not reenter cabin.

Suicide by airplane, a little more then a year after the last time. The pilots names should be the giveaway.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 26, 2015 05:26 AM (xQX/f)

663 662
I think pilot leveled plane out at 38,000 feet and took a leak. Co-pilot
set autopilot to 6800 feet - a leisurely descent. Plane dropped for
eight minutes then leveled off. Meanwhile pilot returns, can not reenter
cabin.



Suicide by airplane, a little more then a year after the last time. The pilots names should be the giveaway.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 26, 2015 05:26 AM (xQX/f)


The pilots' names and histories should be a major focus of the investigation......and I'm really feeling very little confidence in any government concerned to be truthful.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 05:29 AM (T1005)

664 .....and the hurried "NOT terrorism!" from the uninvolved US authorities -- along with the joint press mumble by the Spanish, French, and Germans -- are not raising my confidence level.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 05:31 AM (T1005)

665 And, then, there's the Spanish Inquisition!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 05:32 AM (T1005)

666 Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 05:32 AM (T1005)

667 The pilots' names and histories should be a major focus of the investigation......and I'm really feeling very little confidence in any government concerned to be truthful.

Remember the Egypt Air flight where the last words the pilot said were 'Allah Akbar' before he ditched it in the Atlantic? Our government lied to us about that one, too.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 26, 2015 05:33 AM (xQX/f)

668 667
The pilots' names and histories should be a major focus of the
investigation......and I'm really feeling very little confidence in any
government concerned to be truthful.



Remember the Egypt Air flight where the last words the pilot said
were 'Allah Akbar' before he ditched it in the Atlantic? Our government
lied to us about that one, too.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 26, 2015 05:33 AM (xQX/f)


Yep. I remember that.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 26, 2015 05:36 AM (T1005)

669 So we need a Christian airline. Think of the market potential

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at March 26, 2015 05:41 AM (LWu6U)

670 Best part Of Cruz speech was when he asked audience to imagine a world without a president afraid of uttering the phrase 'radical Islamic terrorism'.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 26, 2015 05:46 AM (xQX/f)

671 And I'm back...

Plenty of work tonight, and lots of comments to catch up on.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 26, 2015 05:48 AM (WUYpW)

672 To paraphrase something I read somewhere, "Perfectly good airplanes don't just fly themselves into the ground."

The regular nature of the descent screams deliberate act. It could have been a lone psychotic, but a Koran-inspired fanatic seemsmuch, much more probable.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 26, 2015 05:51 AM (WUYpW)

673 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 26, 2015 06:02 AM (F1jFR)

674 And so here I am, by myself, talking to myself. The crazy ones don't know they are, do they?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 26, 2015 06:02 AM (WUYpW)

675 Oh, hey VIA.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 26, 2015 06:03 AM (WUYpW)

676 I'm just guessing but I assume there is insurance money paid to surviving members of pilot (or co-pilot) family IF not clear case of suicide. Probably in the million dollar plus range.

You're not gonna get that by sticking a gun in your mouth or driving into a bridge abutment at high speed. Take out a planeload of infidels, score some virgins, and leave your family with some serious coin.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 26, 2015 06:09 AM (xQX/f)

677 I'm still over at Airliners.net, reading their threads on the airplane crash.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 26, 2015 06:12 AM (F1jFR)

678 Just peeked at Airliners.net, it seems they are in a similar information vacuum and stuck at Marshall on did the door lock.

Right now the Rumsfeld Theory holds. About knowing what you don't know. Which in this case is a lot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 26, 2015 06:17 AM (KJLsF)

679 After about 50 years of obfuscation, the UN just recently re-opened an investigation of the Dag Hammarskjold crash in Zambia, 1961. What are the chances some of the investigators were on GermanWings? It's a small world.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 26, 2015 06:21 AM (xq1UY)

680 Corgis, Morning has broke.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 26, 2015 06:31 AM (KJLsF)

681 Oh look...
A NOOD!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 26, 2015 06:32 AM (F1jFR)

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