May 23, 2005

First They Came For The Bloggers
And I didn't speak out, because - Hey! Wait a minute!
Via Debbye of Being American in T.O. and Kate of Small Dead Animals comes the news that Andrew Coyne is being sued for libel by the Chief of Staff of the Canadian Prime Minister, apparently over this or related items. Robot Guy has more.
A commenter at Small Dead Animals points out that the very first sentence in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is this:
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.That's real reassuring, that is. Mind you, Australia doesn't even have such a charter. Fortunately, our Liberal government is actually liberal, in the classical sense. Glenn Reynolds seems to have stickied a post regarding the FEC's proposal to regulate bloggers under the Campaign Finance "Reform" Laws. Don't think it can't happen here. Um, there. Wherever.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at 03:20 PM | Comments (11) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)
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Pixy, thanks for the support. Things are getting ugly up here and, in a bizarre way, losing international face would actually hurt Ontarians a lot more than passively accepting tyranny.
I guess this next question is where globalization becomes a headache.
In what manner do the proposed FEC regulations affect bloggers whose sites (or should that be domains? hosts?) are in other countries?
For example, as we have a Texas connection, do we therefore weigh in on the FEC regulations or does our personal physicial location, e.g., Canada or Australia, dictate which government we fight?
(This isn't an idle question; I'm an American citizen, so I feel it my right and duty to challenge the FEC, but I might have a better case if my Texas connection carries some weight.)
I guess this next question is where globalization becomes a headache.
In what manner do the proposed FEC regulations affect bloggers whose sites (or should that be domains? hosts?) are in other countries?
For example, as we have a Texas connection, do we therefore weigh in on the FEC regulations or does our personal physicial location, e.g., Canada or Australia, dictate which government we fight?
(This isn't an idle question; I'm an American citizen, so I feel it my right and duty to challenge the FEC, but I might have a better case if my Texas connection carries some weight.)
Posted by: Debbye at May 23, 2005 09:55 PM (vMw1f)
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Unfortunately, the way things seem to work is this:
If you are an American citizen living in Canada blogging on a server physically situated in the U.K. (for the sake of an example) paid for and run from Australia, then your blog is subject to the laws of all of those countries, even when - especially when - they are mutually contradictory.
If you piss someone off badly enough.
If you are an American citizen living in Canada blogging on a server physically situated in the U.K. (for the sake of an example) paid for and run from Australia, then your blog is subject to the laws of all of those countries, even when - especially when - they are mutually contradictory.
If you piss someone off badly enough.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 24, 2005 01:03 AM (+S1Ft)
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Thanks, Pixy!
You know me well, and probably anticipated a follow-up question:
Is it a problem if I piss them all off? (hypothtically speaking, of course.)
Except you; I don't want to piss you off.
You know me well, and probably anticipated a follow-up question:
Is it a problem if I piss them all off? (hypothtically speaking, of course.)
Except you; I don't want to piss you off.
Posted by: Debbye at May 24, 2005 03:22 AM (+oU7B)
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Piss them off by all means. But be careful - not cautious, but careful - and consider the facts at hand and the statements you make. Saying that you consider Tim Murphy a loathsome slime-mold isn't actionable. Claiming that he committed a specific act may be.
Also when dealing with a weasel, it may be judicious to employ weasel-words.
Also when dealing with a weasel, it may be judicious to employ weasel-words.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 24, 2005 03:36 AM (+S1Ft)
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Thanks, Pixy. The word "alleged" is my friend.
Weasel: a carnivorous mammal, often used to describe members of Canada's Liberal Party.
Weasel: a carnivorous mammal, often used to describe members of Canada's Liberal Party.
Posted by: Debbye at May 25, 2005 07:36 AM (WKkzE)
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One must be aware of possible defamatory comments. Do you think? You post something that steps on Liberal toes. They post smut or smear comments and then get lawyers to phone and intimidate for a shut-down. That may be when servers in Monrovia or Latvia become useful.. Come to think of it. Censorship has pretty well died. As long as expose stuff is on more than one server or can be zapped to any safe site anywhere in the world, it can always pop up again. TonyGuitar.Blogspot PS I see that tech values are heavy here, but why are excellent bloggers drawn to mu.nu?
Posted by: TonyGuitar at May 28, 2005 10:06 PM (rmMzv)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 28, 2005 11:00 PM (+S1Ft)
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