March 31, 2004
Bloogle
Blogging will be light here at Ambient Irony for the next week or so.
But that does not mean I've left you without reading material! Whether you are looking for edification or entertainment, the growing list of Munuvians (over there --->) is bound to satisfy.
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Tell me is the list going to be growing much more in say the next week. I'm already five behind.
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at March 31, 2004 12:10 PM (CSxVi)
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I'll see if I can work out how to make the official blogroll a bit more flexible so that you can use it. Easier all round that way.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 31, 2004 12:21 PM (+S1Ft)
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Pleeeease tell me you're having a vacation. You deserve it.
Posted by: Jennifer at March 31, 2004 12:57 PM (+ARrk)
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Well, I'm taking some time off work, anyway. But that's so as I can work on MuNu.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 31, 2004 01:26 PM (kOqZ6)
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Shouldn't we be sorted in some fashion? Alphabetized, or divided into bite-size categories (by subject matter, for instance)?
That's probably just me being anal-retentive and silly.
I assume there's a list somewhere that I can copy, so I don't have to build this segment of my new blogroll from scratch. Perhaps I could work on the "bite-size blogroll" problem myself . . .
Posted by: Little Miss Attila at March 31, 2004 07:58 PM (AFscM)
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There are two lists available: http://munuviana.mu.nu/mu.js which is in chronological order, and http://munuviana.mu.nu/nu.js which is alphabetical. We didn't need a bite-size one before now.

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March 30, 2004
Fedora Core 2 Test 2 Released
One bug, two bugs, tar bugs, su bugs,
grep bugs, mew bugs, old bugs, new bugs.
This bug has a little hack,
This bug has a broken stack.
Say! What a lot of bugs to track.
Yes, some are in tar, and some in su.
Some are old. And some are new.
Some in sed, and some in jed.
And some are even in parted.
Why are they in parted, jed and sed?
I do not know. Bugs should be dead!
Some in jpeg, and some in TIFF
This TIFF one has an attached diff.
From there to here, from here to there
Test release bugs are everywhere.
Fedora Core test 2 is available for
x86 and x86-64
It should not be installed where production is hot;
use it only for test, as we say quite a lot.
If you install with the default
SELinux will be the result
SELinux is a form of MAC
For more answers, check the FAQ [*]
By explicitly stating what apps can use
Unwanted accesses it will refuse
[*] http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux -faq-en/
So please test test2 in this mode;
and please test it with your code.
Plus it comes with a new GNOME;
can you test that in your home?
Also X.org is new,
replacing XFree, test it too.
And 3.2.1 of KDE
We need to test, test, test, you see!
So we will test it on our box.
And we will even test out sox.
And we will test it in our house.
And we will test it with our mouse.
And we will test it here and there.
Say! We will test it ANYWHERE!
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Gooddbye Dr Suess, hello Pixy. My daughter's in for a shock at story time tonight.
Posted by: Simon at March 30, 2004 01:51 PM (GWTmv)
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Not mine though - that's the release announcement.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 30, 2004 03:33 PM (kOqZ6)
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Taking the Cake
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w00t! I must have managed that happy dance without realising it!
Posted by: Robert at March 30, 2004 01:56 AM (kXZI6)
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I'm supposed to say Yay now, right?
Posted by: triticale at March 30, 2004 02:34 AM (YmQkS)
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You got it!

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 30, 2004 02:42 AM (+S1Ft)
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Posted by: Debbye at March 30, 2004 11:12 AM (cowNW)
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Good move putting the Frank J fanclub site on mu.nu. This way, at the crucial time you can exert your influence to displace him as ruler of Planet Imao . . . but I'm not supposed to talk about that here, am I?
Scratch all that. Yay!
Posted by: Little Miss Attila at March 31, 2004 08:04 PM (AFscM)
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Rocket Jones and there's a lot of good stuff there. Ted's a bit under the weather, so I think a cheery sing-along is in order.
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March 29, 2004
March 28, 2004
The Fourth Sign
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Posted by: Jim at March 29, 2004 12:44 AM (saeHM)
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Honorable company. I already have a blogfriend among them.
Just everyone's luck that this happens to be a uniquely burdensome weekend, but I am looking forward to making the muve.
Posted by: triticale at March 29, 2004 01:11 AM (MyOec)
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I'm truly honored to be a Mu Nu Alien.
Great -- no, fantastic -- company!
Posted by: Emma at March 29, 2004 01:07 PM (kpNlZ)
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But if this keeps up I'm going to run out of signs!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 29, 2004 02:07 PM (kOqZ6)
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How did you do that? The sign, I mean.
Posted by: Simon at March 29, 2004 03:40 PM (UKqGy)
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See below (under "I Saw the Sign").
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 29, 2004 03:50 PM (kOqZ6)
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In A Pale Kombi*
The Five Ideologies of the Apocalypse:
Communism
Fascism
Environmentalism
Islamism
Post-Modernism
Fasten your seatbelts boys and girls, it's going to be a bumpy decade.
* Probably fried-out too.
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Sixth......nihilism. Or is that redundant?
Posted by: debbie at March 29, 2004 01:44 AM (QWiVc)
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Are there still nihilists around?
Dumb question. Of course there are still nihilists around.
We can strap them on the roof with the other ideological baggage.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 29, 2004 01:48 AM (+S1Ft)
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March 27, 2004
Gadget of the Day
This is just plain nifty. The
Netgear WGT634U may have a dull name, but it is shiny and packed full of goodness.
It's a firewall and a router. It's a 4-port 10/100Mbit ethernet switch. It's a 108Mbit WiFi access point. And if you plug in an external USB disk drive, it's also a file server.
I haven't found an Australian price for it yet, but in the U.S. it retails for around $150.
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That is sweet! Now I have to sabotage my router so Lovely Wife will let me buy it...
Posted by: Jim at March 28, 2004 12:24 AM (saeHM)
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I just HAVE to get one of those... at least one!
Posted by: Madfish Willie at March 28, 2004 10:45 AM (lZgx6)
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I Saw The Sign

(
Ted <
J-Walk <
LetterJames)
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Posted by: Susie at March 27, 2004 03:06 PM (YFpJP)
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TOO cool signage!
I would like to know what I need to do to get my name (or pseudonym) up in THOSE lights. Heh.
Posted by: margi at March 27, 2004 04:09 PM (kpNlZ)
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Ah! At last! Fame! My name in lights! (My plan for Total World Dominations is...out of chocolate.)
Aieeee!
Posted by: Linda at March 30, 2004 10:19 AM (mmKG+)
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Hello. Where you are born?
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March 26, 2004
The History of Munuvia, Part 1
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Posted by: Jennifer at March 26, 2004 02:29 AM (DdBLw)
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Kewl.......more! More, I say!
Posted by: Susie at March 26, 2004 03:35 AM (9PzdO)
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"And there was much rejoicing."
Hoorayyy!
Posted by: Linda at March 26, 2004 03:56 AM (ktJme)
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And lo the fertile soil became a haven for refugees of Blogspot and other technological wastelands. And all who came there were happy and free.
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at March 26, 2004 07:52 AM (UquFN)
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Excellent. More.... More....
Posted by: Ozguru at March 26, 2004 11:23 AM (/acvO)
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And I even get a broomstick. That's tapestry weavers knew their stuff. Bravo.
Posted by: Simon at March 26, 2004 02:48 PM (UKqGy)
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But where's the cheese???
Posted by: Da Goddess at March 26, 2004 04:01 PM (+f6gY)
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March 25, 2004
Thanks A Lot, Sitemeter!
I'd noticed that of late my Sitemeter numbers hadn't been growing very fast. I put it down to my writing being less scintillating that I'd like.
Apparently, though, scintillation is not the issue here:

Grr! Grr, I say!
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That looks like one of those programs you get on exercise bikes at gyms. Or so I've been told.
Posted by: Simon at March 25, 2004 04:00 PM (FUPxT)
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Now that's just WRONG! I stop by EVERY day, so obviously there's a problem with sitemeter...
Posted by: Susie at March 25, 2004 04:18 PM (9PzdO)
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Heck, one of your March 16th posts got 7 comments--between the 16th and the 19th, when you had NO visitors! You must be magic...
Posted by: Susie at March 25, 2004 04:20 PM (9PzdO)
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Wish I had that particular problem.
Posted by: Blueshift at March 25, 2004 05:07 PM (crTpS)
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I'm using four different site tracking services (2 of which came with my site host), and all four have different figures. So don't feel too bad.
Posted by: Alan Kellogg at March 25, 2004 08:21 PM (YEkGz)
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Even when it's working "correctly" it only picks up about 2/3 of the actual visits. It also doesn't snag aggregator hits so anybody reading you off of xml (um...like me) won't count. Plus, if you're loading slow and that graphic never gets loaded the visit doesn't count. And they go through periodic periods of crap in unexplained and mysterious manners.
Then again, it's free.
Posted by: Jim at March 25, 2004 10:29 PM (saeHM)
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Been goin' thru the same shit.
Stat Counter kicks butt.
You should try it.
In the last five days (since I had it installed), it has counted 560 hits, compared to Site Meters 246, in the same amount of time.
Another lady I have blogrolled (My b/f is a Twat) has had the same problem. Site Meter dropped 4000 hits off her total.
What is UP with them, anyway?
Posted by: Stevie at March 26, 2004 01:26 PM (BXUKM)
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Cool. I've put Statcounter on as well. Let's see how it goes!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 26, 2004 05:44 PM (kOqZ6)
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I seem to have pretty good consistency usin' SiteMeter, but unlike most, I have it way up at the top of my page, so that is is one of the first things to load. Besides, I know that I get like 1700 people a minute readin' me on aggregators anyway, so those numbers are just for show to the hometown folks.

Posted by: notGeorge at March 30, 2004 06:05 AM (JCxVY)
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Ignorance::Excuse::No
Microsoft claims that it should not be fined at all because it did not know its behaviour would breach EU law.
I weep.
Hang on, no I don't.
Microsoft has been slapped with a 497-million Euro fine (that's US$613m, £331m, AU$810m) by the EU. Now I loathe the EU at least as much as I loathe Microsoft, but Microsoft has a history of blatant abuse of their effective monopoly position and they've had this coming for years.
It won't stop them, of course. No financial remedy that doesn't bankrupt the company will do that. What will stop them is open source software, a triumph of Marxism over Capitalism. Only in a good way.
Because things are different when your incremental cost (Is that the right term? The cost for producing another copy of something?) is effectively zero. Our first taste of post-scarcity economics. It isn't
really post-scarcity economics, and in a finite universe you can't have pure post-scarcity economics, but it's close.
(Article on
BBC. Yeah, I know, one bunch of weasels reporting on a legal action by a second bunch of weasels against a third bunch of weasels. But what am I to do? It's weasels
all the way down.)
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The only good weasel is a dead weasel...
Posted by: Susie at March 25, 2004 03:45 AM (9PzdO)
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the EU used article 82 of the EC treaty to hang Microsoft.
Any abuse by one or more undertakings of a dominant position within the common market or in a substantial part of it shall be prohibited as incompatible with the common market insofar as it may affect trade between Member States.
Such abuse may, in particular, consist in:
(a) directly or indirectly imposing unfair purchase or selling prices or other unfair trading conditions;
(b) limiting production, markets or technical development to the prejudice of consumers;
(c) applying dissimilar conditions to equivalent transactions with other trading parties, thereby placing them at a competitive disadvantage;
(d) making the conclusion of contracts subject to acceptance by the other parties of supplementary obligations which, by their nature or according to commercial usage, have no connection with the subject of such contracts.
my assumption is that section c. is the one they used to hang Microsoft. however, it is very vague don't you think? so i think that a case could be made that Microsoft didn't know they were breaking any rules. i can't find any warnings issued by the EU either. i doubt very seriously that this judgment will stand up in court.
Posted by: Captain Scarlet at March 25, 2004 06:51 AM (l+gJ0)
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It is a bit vague, yes. Now Intel is certainly known for that c sort of thing. But Microsoft has been known to do a, b, c and d when it suits them.
i doubt very seriously that this judgment will stand up in court.
What court? Can Microsoft appeal this anywhere?
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 25, 2004 11:49 AM (+S1Ft)
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"It won't stop them, of course. No financial remedy that doesn't bankrupt the company will do that."
And what's wrong with bankrupting those criminals? I had some hope (vain, I guess) that the EU would shut them down, or at least ban them from Europe. $613-million is a drop in the bucket.
Posted by: JRW at March 25, 2004 02:07 PM (0BPZ/)
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I didn't say that there was anything wrong with bankrupting them.

Just that anything less in the way of financial remedy wouldn't work. I don't quite advocate bankrupting them...
I do think Bill Gates should have been hit with jail time for contempt of court for his behaviour during the U.S. antitrust case. That would have been interesting.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 25, 2004 02:57 PM (kOqZ6)
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The one thing that hasn't been tried yet to 'fix' Micro$oft is to revoke thier corporate charter
Posted by: skipjack at March 25, 2004 11:45 PM (9h1sW)
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March 24, 2004
Ack! Erk! Eek!
I just looked at my credit card statement.
It seems that when you buy two computers, plus various extra bits and pieces, plus a bunch of anime, and a printer and a couple of office chairs and then some more bits and pieces, that they actually want you to
pay for it. Damn!
Now, my latest pay cheque will take care of it all, but still. The nerve of them, expecting me to pay for things I've bought.
On the other hand: I dropped by the CX computer store in Pitt St just now. I can get 50 DVD-Rs for $59, or 25 for $29. Um, guys...
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Why don't you ask CX if they buy their 50 DVD-R for the same price?
Damn credit card companies have a funny way of catching up with you.
Posted by: Simon at March 24, 2004 04:32 PM (GWTmv)
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Where on Pitt St. I need some more DVD-R's and $59 sounds OK (but $58 sounds even better)..... I am up near Pitt & Bathurst.
Posted by: Ozguru at March 25, 2004 12:54 PM (/acvO)
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Up the other end of town, unfortunately - between Martin Place and Hunter St.
But they have another store on York St behind the QVB.
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Oh, That's Just Lovely
My mail server just died. The one completely reliable box I've had, kerflooie.
Well, let's reboot. Uh,
Kernel panic: Aiee stopping interrupt handler is a bad sign, right?
Let's power off, and... Uh oh.
Try the Fedora rescue mode and... Nope.
Well, let's check the BIOS settings, maybe put it in a safe mode and -
580MB of memory? How can you possibly have 580MB of memory? Let me pull those bad old DIMMs for you.
256MB? Yes? Feeling better now? What's that? You're going to spend the next twenty minutes recovering your journal?
Fine. That's fine. Whatever.
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I really didn't understand much of it, but it sounds scary. And complex. Scarily complex.
Posted by: LeeAnn at March 24, 2004 07:39 AM (HxCeX)
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A dead server is a scary thing. I went through that a few months back. Unfortunately, I was not as lucky as you. The powersupply died and must have surged big time, because both hard drives were completely dead. To make matters worse, I never did get my tape drive to work reliably, so the data loss was rather substantial.
Posted by: Rossz at March 24, 2004 02:34 PM (n5Jbg)
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Yeah, I remember that. I've never had a power supply go like that. Not yet...
I am slowly burning every file I have onto DVD-R. It's time consuming, but I think it's well worth it.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 24, 2004 03:47 PM (kOqZ6)
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Ahh, journal recovery ... nearly as much fun as watching paint dry!
Posted by: Rob at March 24, 2004 08:50 PM (kXZI6)
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From the time it took, I think it was doing a full fsck - though it didn't say so. The only errors it found were on /tmp, so I'm not too worried.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 24, 2004 09:04 PM (+S1Ft)
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Is the Aieee part of the actual error message, or was that reaction on your part?
Posted by: Victor at March 25, 2004 02:13 AM (L3qPK)
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No, the Aiee was part of the error message.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 25, 2004 02:28 AM (+S1Ft)
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As guard against kernel panics, I keep a rubber chicken, a plastic frog, and a picture.
The picture depicts the last server that kernel panicked on me, right after it was kicked down a flight of stairs. All my systems at home behave much better, now.

--Linda
Posted by: Linda at March 26, 2004 04:02 AM (ktJme)
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I'm An Idiot (Again)
I screwed up the secondary DNS for my pixymisa.net domain when I changed ISPs recently. So if you've emailed me recently and it bounced, or I didn't reply, that might be why.
(I just got 15 delayed emails through, but fortunately none of them are from people waiting for a response.)
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How many were SPAM?
Last time I stuffed my mail server (on MacOS X) - I sweated day and night trying to recover it (and add virus filtering). Brought it back up, 80 messages came in according to the logs. None in the mailbox. Spent another 4 hours trying to track them down before remembering to check in the virus/spam reject directory.....
All that effort just so I could receive (and discard) virii and spam?
Posted by: Ozguru at March 25, 2004 01:00 PM (/acvO)
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2, I think.
pixymisa dot net does not seem to have caught the spammers' attention just yet. pixymisa dot com, on the other hand, is about one-third spam. Dealt with very effectively by SpamAssassin.
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March 23, 2004
Printy Comfort
I note that the Canon i990, which I learned the existence of
the very day I got my i965, is
selling for $675, where I paid $480 for my i965.
I take some comfort in that, and also in the fact that the i965 is a very nice printer indeed. If you're after a flexible, reasonably fast inkjet printer with excellent photo quality and CD printing, then either of these, or their little brother the i865, will do the trick.
Unless you live in the U.S., in which case you'll have to settle for the i860 or i960, which are cheaper but lack the ability to print on CDs.
Also, Canon have now announced the
i9900, an A3 (up to 13" by 19"),
eight colour (Black, Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Red, Green, "Photo Cyan" and "Photo Magenta" - what, no blue?) printer for around US$499.
Though it doesn't print on CDs either.
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March 22, 2004
I'll Tell You Why
I was looking for examples of the portal system I'm planning to install at mu.nu, and I found one that was very clean and elegant. So I registered myself there, and started reading. A lot of posts repeating news from Slashdot, and one regarding the recent bombing in Spain.
And the question came:
Now when news and papers here in Europe are all full of this and millions protest against terrorism, it makes my blood pressure going to the sky. I wonder; how can journalists and politicians still be so stupid that all they can say is those same old phrases all over again? "We must fight against terrorism..." And people go to the street....
If only someone would be interested of what these "terrorist" want really??? A piece of land perhaps? Maybe individuality and respect as a human beeings? How difficult would that be arrange? Huh???
I know I'm probably just pissing into the wind, but I replied:
You ask what the terrorists want.
Well, they've stated their desires explicitly many times. You just have to listen to them.
They want Israel destroyed, and the Jews exterminated.
They want America destroyed.
They want the entire world to become an Islamic state.
They want to wipe out freedom of speech, freedom of association and freedom of religion.
They want to subjugate women, to turn them from human beings into chattels.
This is not supposition, this is what they have stated, specifically. This is what they do in their own societies.
Another 200 people have been murdered, and 1500 more injured, with the aim of imposing their views upon the world.
Why do they hate us?
They hate us because we have built a successful society, where theirs has failed. Because our women are independent citizens. Because we disagree with them.
They hate us for our freedom.
They say this themselves. Read any of the dispatches sent out by any of the terrorist groups. Listen to the sermons being given in mosques across the Islamic world.
In their view, we can convert to Islam, be enslaved, or die. They give us no other choices, but we can choose instead to fight.
I wonder how long that post will last there...
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Posted by: Susie at March 23, 2004 04:56 AM (foeQj)
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Oh--I forgot to mention--interesting that he thinks "millions" are protesting, when actual reports indicate it was "thousands"...
Posted by: Susie at March 23, 2004 04:59 AM (foeQj)
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Fuzzy liberal math being taught to our children!
Posted by: Madfish Willie at March 23, 2004 12:30 PM (lZgx6)
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You've gone into the lion's den. Unfortunately you can't teach stupid people who's minds are closed.
Posted by: Simon at March 23, 2004 05:18 PM (UKqGy)
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Yeah, but stupid doesn't automatically mean closed mind. If it makes just one person stop and think about it, it was worth it.
Not that I'm hopeful or anything.
Posted by: Ted at March 23, 2004 09:37 PM (ZjSa7)
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But what about Enron, huh? And Halliburton? And Bush's NG service? Huh? Huh? Huh?
Fucking clueless Lefties piss me off.
Posted by: The Commissar at March 24, 2004 02:51 AM (VpkLq)
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Well, don't fuck 'em then.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 24, 2004 03:06 AM (+S1Ft)
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Bravo! Hurrah! Mindless chest-beating! It's great in here. (Just be careful you don't slip on the drool.)
Posted by: Bugbear at March 24, 2004 07:45 AM (bBbEZ)
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Good post.
I note that according to Lt.Smash, the protest he went to only number in the hundreds (and possibly not even that many).
Posted by: Ozguru at March 24, 2004 08:56 AM (/acvO)
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Bugbear, you're still a putz.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 24, 2004 12:09 PM (+S1Ft)
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And anyway, Bugbear, you putz, where the hell do you get off calling this "mindless chest-beating"?
I know you got a negative score for your reading comprehension test, so I'll say it again in italics: This is what the terrorists themselves say. This is what they do in their own societies.
Putz.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 24, 2004 12:46 PM (+S1Ft)
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because piling on is, well, fun..
Terrorist have also stated...
They want democracy destroyed.
Posted by: jimi at March 25, 2004 01:49 AM (zE10C)
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Very good questions and even better answer. Will the politicians listen, will the idot bleeding hearts who whine and whinge for the "freedom fighters cause" take note. Probably not. Remember the old saying - "!none so blind as those who will not see, and none so deaf as those who will not hear."
Why let truth and facts get in the way of ideology?
Posted by: The Gray Monk at March 25, 2004 04:43 AM (U5kQV)
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Very nice post Pixy, but let us please be mindful that not every Islamic person is a terrorist nor are terroristic sermons bein' given in every mosque. The real tragedy of terrorism is that it has instilled a hatred for a religion and a people in many who were previously ignorant of their existence.
Posted by: notGeorge at March 25, 2004 09:54 AM (JCxVY)
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The protest I covered had less than 100 but it was only New Zealands capital and we can get 80,000 turn out for a LOTR party so that sounds about right.
Posted by: Murray at March 25, 2004 11:08 AM (zAUYo)
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nG:
Not every Muslim is a terrorist, no. But it is almost pretty much standard in the Arab world for sermons to call for the destruction of Israel and the United States.
Islam is a very different religion to Christianity or Judaism. It has not been through a Reformation and Enlightenment the way Christianity has. It is not at all accepting of other opinion. It has been derailed in recent decades by Wahhabism, a particular form of extremist Islam, but even apart from that the history of Islam is not a good one.
Whenever this criticism is raised, people point out the cultural and scientific flowering of Islam during Europe's Dark Ages. Two responses to this: First, much of this was due to their access to Greek and Roman literature and to India; second, what have they done for us in the last thousand years?
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 25, 2004 11:56 AM (+S1Ft)
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Where I live, we have a hell of a lot of venomous snakes. A few are harmless.
Policy here is, if it looks like a snake and moves like a snake, it gets shot as a snake.
Seems to work.
Posted by: Keith at March 26, 2004 01:23 PM (fyrCe)
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There are moderate Muslims, but they don't do a good enough job of voicing their opposition to the extremist garbage. Those who continue to be lukewarm in their opposition to terrorism do indeed risk being mistaken for the poisonous kind of snake.
Posted by: Little Miss Attila at March 31, 2004 08:12 PM (AFscM)
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