Now for something completely odd...
I said in my comments a coupla days ago that I was going to do a post in response to a particular comment, because I had too much I wanted to say for it to qualify as a mere comment...lol.
Then, crap avalanched on top of me all of a friggin' sudden and I just...had had enough for a few minutes. Hell, I don't know why but lately, I seem to have two basic moods...fair to middlin' and pissed. I'm never the most 'cheerful' or 'perky' (gaaaaggg) or 'chipper' person I know to begin with, but I'm usually able to maintain some kinda equilibrium. But, here lately...
Anyway, while I'm in the "fair to middlin'" area, I figgered I'd better go on and do this, before I go back to Pissedthefuckoffville. Ya know?
I have no anger or animosity toward the author of the comment and to be sure this can't be misconstrued in any way as a personal attack, I'm not saying who it is. He can, if he wants, but I'm not trying to start a shit-slingin' contest (I HATE contests...remember?), so I'll leave it at that, okay? Good. And, awaaaay we go.... (I'm the italics...as if ya wouldn't be able to tell.) I'm usually in the same line as you. But I've gotta say: Look at the way he treats his children. Yeah...I have been thinking about him and his kids. First of all, I hope you aren't referring to that lame example that just everybody had to gasp over of him holding his baby over that railing. I mean, cheez-whiz, man, I see people do way worse than that nearly everytime I go....anywhere, really. Parents smacking kids-really HARD- for acting up, yanking 'em up by the arm, slingin' 'em around and shit...I'm sure you've seen it too. Now, that HAS to be worse than what Mike did. That's done in anger. Mike wasn't angry or trying to hurt, or discipline the kid. He was showing him off in an admittedly awkward way. And, Jesus...Mike is otherwise so friggin' 'normal' that that incident should be shocking?...yeah, okay. Second thing about his kids...Now, I know NOTHING about how pedophiles think, but it seems to me that IF Mike was gonna do that kinda shit, he'd...God forgive me...keep it in the family. I mean, who's gonna turn him in that way? Him? Know what I'm sayin'? It just doesn't make sense for him to take such a huge risk like that, especially after what he went through before and seeing as he has kids of his own, now. (I'll be right back. I need a shower, now...*shudder*.) Yes he probably had the worst of all childhoods, much of it is even on record. But at some point we are responsible for ourselves and can't blame things on our upbringing any more. You're right...to an extent. I've heard this before and I cannot understand how, if you're raised by substandard human beings in the first place, you're supposed to have the 'tools' needed for just such a self-fix. What? You think Joe Jackson took time out of his 'stage-fathering to the nth degree' to make sure little Mikey and the rest of those boys had the mental skills to repair the damage he was doing? Siiigh. Please. That cocksucker was too busy chasing the almighty dollar to give a rat's ass who he destroyed in the process, as we can all plainly see. As to what did or didn't happen, hell none of us know and we'll all believe what we want to believe. Truer words have never been typed, Darlin'. Sad, ain't it? But that man is sick very very sick. Who he's become is not ok any more. Agreed and agreed. However...at exactly what decibel does Michael Jackson have to shriek to get help? First of all, this is a situation that has been ongoing for years...years. He's needed help longer than I have, fer piss sake. Then, we've got judges locking up people like Robert Downey Jr. "for his own good, so he can get rehabbed" and Charlie Sheen and even that assnugget Leif Garrett get inventions done for 'em and Mikey? Ah...fuck Mikey. Let's just all stand around and watch him jitter apart. Then, when his behavior becomes outrageous enough, we can use that as 'proof' of accusations of criminal behavior. People, please. The outward manifestations of Mike's 'sickness' are SYMPTOMS...not evidence or proof that he's a pedophile, okay? That's all I'm sayin'. I just know somebody's gonna wanna say something about all his money and all the help available, but to that I'd say: Hanging around with that dipshit Elizabeth Taylor is no way to get 'helped'....she's almost as nutso as he is. And, again...you're expecting a man who was never taught otherwise to see this in himself and be able to know how to fix it. Not fair, I tell ya. Not fair. (Please believe me on this one...I KNOW.) And about freaks. Lennon was wrong. Most of the public actually knows pretty well what it's like. Jesus. I hope to God you're the one who's wrong about that. If the 'public' has any idea at all of how painful it is to be singled out, targeted and labelled a freak, the 'public' sure is an evil, malicious, heartless lot for continuing to do it. (And, I'm not depressed, I'm RIGHT to stay in the house alla time...) Please...if you are indeed correct about that, would you tell me, or just try to explain, 'why'? I really need to be able to grasp an understanding of that. Okay...I'm done. If I got a tad 'vebally vehement', I'd like to point out that it was not directed to the commenter. Every time I got an attack of 'shithouse-mouth' it was directed toward either Joe (Fuck I hate that guy) Jackson or that twat (oops again) Leif Garrett. Lem'me go see if I said anything else...Well, I did call Elizabeth Taylor a dipshit, but that's hardly 'harsh'... Anyhoo...I'm more interested in getting my points across than I am cussing, right now. Not that I can help it when it comes to Mike's (fuckin' asshole of a) father, anyway...You just know the guy's gotta be a piece of shit, if I, the original and very fervent ManFan, hate the sumbitch. And, for some reason, I really, really do. A lot. I'd not only not piss on him if he was on fire, I'd throw gas. He is evil personified. If Michael Jackson is punished for child abuse and his dad isn't...that would be THE most unjust, horrific example of the system gone wrong that I ever want to witness.
(Warning: Tangent Ahead)
I wouldn't, however, be a BIT surprised. After all, we're feeding, clothing, housing and fuckin' supporting John Lennon's murderer. Why? Dear GOD, somebody please tell me WHY that murderin' asshole is still alive. And, how is anyone supposed to have any kinda faith in this 'system' of ours, anyway?
(Specialized little rant here...)
Did any of ya's ('the public' is who I'm 'talking' to here) stop to really think about why OJ ran? And, noooo, I'm not even gonna go there. I'm just asking if anyone tried putting themselves in his place. Or even just tried to imagine what he was dealing with. I know I woulda been completely freaked the fuck out and scared...of the cops. Whether I really did it or not. Think about it. Even if you have no documented history of Domestic Violence, when a spouse is murdered, the first one blamed is the surviving, or last, spouse, if you're seperated. Even if you don't live with the victim anymore, you are still considered a suspect until cleared. Yeah, that is sooo close to "Innocent until proven guilty", isn't it? Yep. So, your spouse is dead, murdered, you have two small children and you KNOW the cops will be up yer ass, more so with any hint of DV in your relationship. What the fuck, man. What's a person supposed to do? You just want to try to start to deal with the fact that your 'person' is dead, which is devastating unless you're mortal enemies, which OJ and Nicole were not. That right there...dead significant person in your life, is traumatic enough, let alone having to try to prove your innocence at the same time. And, just how do you do that...prove you didn't do something? Ever had someone lie about you, like, say...in high school. Maybe say they fucked ya when they didn't? How the hell do you prove something even that simple? You can't. I know. So....how do ya prove innocence when the cops and DA are hell-bent on proving you did do it from the git-go? On top of which, you lived a skewed life because you're a celebrity. Those people don't know how to behave 90% of the time, in simple daily living. So, again, we expect what we consider to be 'normal (again-whatever the fuck that word means) behavior from a not 'normal' person.
Christ...did it ever occur to anybody that we're the ones who create these creatures in the first place? Talk about deifying people. Jesus. We take regular, same-components-as-us people and make them 'special' and kiss their celebrity asses, then expect them to act like we would in ANY given circumstance. Well, how intelligent of us. And, guess what else? We've done it with more than one person and repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity. Okay? Does anybody besides me see a pattern emerging here? Think about it...just who is it, really, who's fucked up? Them, for being so 'special' or us for makin' 'em that way?
(We now return to the Original Tangent, still in progress...)
We've got that soulless piece of shit, Mark Chapman alive and well, when he outright MURDERED John...shit, there's a dude named Robert Oakley Marshall on New Jersey's death row right now for murdering, or having murdered, his wife, Maria, for insurance. When the fuck is stupid New Jersey gonna get around to killin' this asshole? Probably sometime after they get the scam they call auto insurance straightened out. Yeah, right after we have honest politicians to choose from, the Beatles get back together and hell is a Frigidaire dealership. It'll probably be the day BEFORE we instiutue a truly 'just' legal system.
Not to even mention the untold number of truly innocent people who are locked up right this minute.
I'm just a regular, fallible, mortal person and even I don't trust 'the system' to do right by me. I can't even begin to imagine how I'd be thinking (and I use that word loosely in this context) or acting if I were a celebrity. God...it boggles the mind. (Off in the distance, a train is heard approaching....Oh! I do believe it's the next train to Pissedthefuckoffville. Looks like I'mina hafta start packin' up here...) Really, I had no idea I was gonna go on this long. Sheesh. And, I'm not even sure that all of that makes sense, but I promise you it is all related in my tangled little brain, somehow.
I just wish people would lay off other people if they don't have absolute knowledge or proof of...wrongdoing. I mean, damn, the world is a jagged-edged, hurtful enough place in itself, without us adding to each others loads and as one who has had to drag around other people's shit for years, I just want to say that it's not fair, nice or necessary. For me, or OJ or Mike or you or you or you. The world is NOT gonna knock it off. I know that. I also know I can't stand it anymore. The one thing I don't know is what the hell to do about it.
Any suggestions? Peace (Where are those aspirin?)
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Heh. I knew there was a reason I haven't heard from you in the past few days. :-P More once I wake up.
Posted by: Mad William Flint at December 11, 2003 12:53 PM (jRssG)
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Hey Sweetie...I wasn't avoiding you or anything. Especially not 'cause of this silliness. I admit that, yeah, I did skip about a day here, but it had to do with the utter assholery of the contests and numbers and their affect on people. (In other words, when Donnie said he was quitting, I said 'fuck THIS' myself for a bit.) Plus, either I'm developing several distinct, seperate personalities or I've got PMS like a bitch, right now. And, whichever it is, it ain't your fault...I honestly wasn't (and I'm still not) 'pissed' or in any way 'negatively emotional'
about yer comments in reference to Mike. I will, however, also admit to wondering why you so dislike John Lennon, buuut...that's okay, too. Really. It is.
(Oh God...I can feel another 'explanation' coming on...lol. Aw fuck, here we go...)
About John...I don't think he's God. First of all, that would be a step down for a guy who was 'more popular than Jesus', wouldn't it? (That's a joke, a joke I say, Son...) But, really, what John was was a uniquely gifted individual, able to do things with words and music that most other people can't even begin to do, who was muredered-shot in the back, no less-at the young age of 40, fer Christs sake, by a fat, useless, jealous, utterly stupid yet sane (enough) piece of sub-human shit for no discernable reason, whatsoever. That is what made him into a deity. Not me. And, that had to happen, because of the fame Chapman got for killing him. If that loser is now 'famous', John must be elevated to the next level to keep Chapman in his place, which is about 2000 levels under the soles of John's boots. After he's stepped in dog-shit.
And, these aren't my rules...it just seems to be what has happened here. If what that goober Chapman wanted was to expunge John from the face of the earth, he failed...miserably, because all he managed to do was turn John into a legend who transcends even death. But, hell, we're not stupid. If we were, it would have also made Yoko into some kinda hero, which it did not. Matter of fact, it is my considered opinion that if that asshole Chapman REALLY wanted to hurt John while escaping the wrath of John's (real) fans, he'd have shot HER instead. But,that's not what he did and I personally can't stand having to even acknowledge the assholes existence without 'mentioning' John's superiority to that waste of sperm, flesh and oxygen. That's all. I liked John before he was murdered, but after that-BECAUSE of that-I've read more things and spent way more time than I would have just thinking about John and all of it, thereby making him even more real, human and personal to me.
(So, fuck you, Chapman...ya didn't rid the world John Lennon. And, as long as I'm alive I intended to keep it that way. Fuckin' PUNK-ASS.)
Oops...sorry. Almost lost it there. But...at Chapman...not you, MWF.
As for Chapman's insanity, or LACK THEREOF...he was sane enough to hold jobs, acquire handguns and all other manner of shit. He's also sane enough to die for what he did and until he does...this won't end. The longer that piece of shit lives, the bigger John's legend gets. And, I really don't see anything really wrong with that concept.
So, yeah, in a way, you're right. John shouldn't be made into a 'God' and probably wouldn't be to this extent, if he hadn't also been murdered like he was, which he deserved even less than any "God-status" that was conferred upon him on his death.
Kay?
(Seeing as how I'm giggling right this second, this seems like a good time for me to shut up now. Besides, I hafta go post this now...lol. Yes, somewhere in the previous half hour this, too, morphed from a comment into a post.)
about yer comments in reference to Mike. I will, however, also admit to wondering why you so dislike John Lennon, buuut...that's okay, too. Really. It is.
(Oh God...I can feel another 'explanation' coming on...lol. Aw fuck, here we go...)
About John...I don't think he's God. First of all, that would be a step down for a guy who was 'more popular than Jesus', wouldn't it? (That's a joke, a joke I say, Son...) But, really, what John was was a uniquely gifted individual, able to do things with words and music that most other people can't even begin to do, who was muredered-shot in the back, no less-at the young age of 40, fer Christs sake, by a fat, useless, jealous, utterly stupid yet sane (enough) piece of sub-human shit for no discernable reason, whatsoever. That is what made him into a deity. Not me. And, that had to happen, because of the fame Chapman got for killing him. If that loser is now 'famous', John must be elevated to the next level to keep Chapman in his place, which is about 2000 levels under the soles of John's boots. After he's stepped in dog-shit.
And, these aren't my rules...it just seems to be what has happened here. If what that goober Chapman wanted was to expunge John from the face of the earth, he failed...miserably, because all he managed to do was turn John into a legend who transcends even death. But, hell, we're not stupid. If we were, it would have also made Yoko into some kinda hero, which it did not. Matter of fact, it is my considered opinion that if that asshole Chapman REALLY wanted to hurt John while escaping the wrath of John's (real) fans, he'd have shot HER instead. But,that's not what he did and I personally can't stand having to even acknowledge the assholes existence without 'mentioning' John's superiority to that waste of sperm, flesh and oxygen. That's all. I liked John before he was murdered, but after that-BECAUSE of that-I've read more things and spent way more time than I would have just thinking about John and all of it, thereby making him even more real, human and personal to me.
(So, fuck you, Chapman...ya didn't rid the world John Lennon. And, as long as I'm alive I intended to keep it that way. Fuckin' PUNK-ASS.)
Oops...sorry. Almost lost it there. But...at Chapman...not you, MWF.
As for Chapman's insanity, or LACK THEREOF...he was sane enough to hold jobs, acquire handguns and all other manner of shit. He's also sane enough to die for what he did and until he does...this won't end. The longer that piece of shit lives, the bigger John's legend gets. And, I really don't see anything really wrong with that concept.
So, yeah, in a way, you're right. John shouldn't be made into a 'God' and probably wouldn't be to this extent, if he hadn't also been murdered like he was, which he deserved even less than any "God-status" that was conferred upon him on his death.
Kay?
(Seeing as how I'm giggling right this second, this seems like a good time for me to shut up now. Besides, I hafta go post this now...lol. Yes, somewhere in the previous half hour this, too, morphed from a comment into a post.)
Posted by: Stevie at December 11, 2003 04:43 PM (n46BI)
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