Prolific little bitch, today, ain't I?
I've been having an "exchange", of sorts, with Desert Cat. He's been busy as all hell, pummeling me in Livey's comments.
He stopped by here for one, which I answered, which HE then answered. (It's under one of those posts, the "Hello, Life" one, I think...) Anyway, after his long and thoughtful last comment, I wrote him back via "reply" instead of answering him in my comments. It's been a while now and he doesn't seem inclined to answer again so, I'm gonna post my "reply" to him and leave it to you, especially you FOL's (Friends of Livey) who keep coming here and not saying anything, then leaving, although I'm interested in ANY examples ANYONE has. So, here's what I sent to Desert Cat: Thank you for such a detailed reply. I'm writing back to you as a "private" reply, rather than just answering you in my comments, just so ya know. You come across as a very intelligent person, which leads me to be comfortable with trying to continue a dialog with you about this. I do have a question... (probably more than one, if you know me...) Please tell me something and I'm not trying to be a smartass by asking, I truly want to know... What have I done that has been, in your opinion, so bad?Equally as important... when did I do whatever it was? The REASON I've felt and acted like I have toward her is simple... Rob made his feelings toward her quite well known before he died. Specifically, after she did what she did to him in his comments. He was not just angry, he was hurt and told her many, many times to not email, call or comment anymore and she ignored him.
She hurt him more and more and more.
And, she knew she was doing it, whether she could "help it" or not. The very day he did that update (the one that was removed) she said in his comments and at her own place that he was a "drama queen" and would never do "it". And now he's gone.
And and, he said her name in that update. Hers, Jennifer's and, for some reason, Bane's. Bi-polar or not, that's a hell of a thing, don't you think? There's only so far a person can explain away their actions by "blaming" a disease or childhood trauma.
Hell, my own mother moved to Florida with a guy I was dating in high school. (And took to bed several others...)
It was hard, but I got past it.
I grew up at least enough to realize I couldn't spend my life screwing other people over and blaming it on that, ya know?
And, I've been told before that I, too, am bi-polar to an extent.
I take no meds for it, never have, and see no one about it either and I manage to not do the incredibly "odd" things she does. And, truly, what will you say or how will you feel when she does this to you? I firmly believe she will, sooner or later.
Is an "oops, sorry... bi-polar" going to make it so that you can just keep excusing everything she does? I've said it at least a dozen times now, I said it in my "Livey" email, which incidentally, I did NOT send to half the planet (I know who did and why so it's not bothering me), I have no problem with her anymore. I don't feel hate or anger or a sense of "retribution" toward the woman, but, by the same token, I'll not
stand by and listen to her or watch her deny the truth about how Rob felt toward her at the end of his life. I can't. That hurts.
It hurts me, it's already hurt his FAMILY, it'll hurt his memory. I keep in contact with Sam, Stacey, Cat and have even spoken to Willy since I've been home.
To a PERSON they have no problem with anything I've said or done. (And, I'm not "yelling" in using caps, just emphasizing...) I don't use (stupid) proxies when I pop in to her site, like she does mine, I haven't hidden my archives nor do I intend to.
I've never tried to claim anything more than a friendship with Rob.
I love him, yes, but he LIKED me. I could tell by the letters I got back from him in Willingway and by him linking the shit outta me the month of June. What would you do if you were to see someone do to Rob what Livey has done?
Wouldn't you want to make it stop?
Obviously you would, as you're telling me that about her now, right? I don't hate her.
I don't hate you.
Hell, I really don't hate anybody, though females do do shit quite often that makes me chew my back teeth... And Livey has done so very many things that so very many people have been hurt by... when is it going to end?
How is it going to end if someone doesn't MAKE her stop?
Would you be this vehement in your defense of her, in your slamming of the "opposition" (just calling it how I think you see me) if it were someone else doing
whatever it is I'm doing that's got you so pissed?
(Told ya I'd end up asking more than one question...) If you only answer one of these myriad questions, please make it the "what/when have I done" one, okay?
I don't expect you have the rest of your life to answer this and I'd really, truly, to the depths of my soul like to know what specific behavior of mine has engendered such hostility from you. Thank you for at least reading this.
me ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So, since he doesn't seem to want to answer me, I leave it to you.
ESPECIALLY if you're one of her "buddies". You tell me SPECIFICALLY what I've done that's so damned bad. Yes, I did "live" in her archives for a few days and yes, I did copy and paste a LOT of what she wrote. (Not my fault there was so much there. Look to her for it being there AT ALL.) But, all I did in doing that is gather the pertinent posts and comments that tell the story plainly in a condensed form, rather than making people dig through six months of shit (from both sites, hers and his) to get the picture.
(And, for the record, Rob wrote waaaay more than she did, but much LESS about her than she did him.) Also, Desert Cat referred to them as "ex-lovers". I think that's stretching things a bit, for the record. I don't believe they were "lovers" in the truest sense of the word.
If anything I think Rob "threw it to her" ONCE to shut her up back in January, when she was cleaning his house naked, calling him a faggot for not jumping her and saying to him, "Okay, we can fuck now. I'm ready when you are.", which he seemed to have ignored.
She said that much herself SEVERAL times. I also believe Rob inadvertantly fueled her obssession by ignoring her repeated entreaties. He wasn't "playing" hard to get, he didn't WANT to be gotten, period. If you weren't Jennifer, you weren't shit to him. And, the fact is, no matter what they did or didn't do in January it's irrelevant as far as how he felt at the end.
He made that perfectly clear. Would you like to see the comment he HIMSELF left at her place when she "outed" him in his comments? It's smokin' rage, I'm tellin' ya.
Sa-MOKIN'. Whatever you people think I've done that was so damned bad ain't SHIT compared to what I could be doing.
And, even THAT wouldn't be "bad" because it's nothing that hasn't already been published and is sittin' there waiting for whomever cares enough to do a little "research" before flinging names and acting all bad-assed. Facts are facts and I haven't even BEGUN to show them. But, frankly, if alla y'all are gonna keep accusing me of being so vile and evil and having such unfounded hostility, if I'm gonna hafta "pay the price" anyway, I may as well warrant the bullshit. I told you before... y'all ain't doin' your girl Livey any good, here. Now, you either tell me SPECIFICALLY what's been so damned bad or shove the fuck off.
Or, I will make it easy access for anybody who wants the truth, not some "fantasized version" of her spin on it, okay?
And, lem'me tell ya one more thing... if you people think she's fucked up NOW, you'd better be ready if you force MY hand, as has been done to quite a FEW people, lately. Now...
Speak.
Tell me.
I'm fuckin' ASKIN' you to. pee ess....
Just to letcha's know... if you want to insult me, you need to come up with something better than "cunt". Between Rob and I, I've seen and used that word so much it's lost it's meaning to me. May as well call me a pencil.
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Hi Stevie,
Okay, well I have been rummaging through archives, reading your old posts, some of robs and what i can find of Livey's and I am completly blown away by all of it! I guess I am missing a few pieces here and there, but by gawd, she sounds freaking nuts! I don't understand why everyone is defending her when she is clearly an extremly unstable person. Of course I am new to this bloggin thing, but from what I have read....it's a very messed up situation. I am just curious, why is everyone going after you? You seem like someone who would be willing to have a very intelligent conversation with anyone, if they had a problem with anything you said, I don't get it. Anyway, I really like how you write!
Okay, well I have been rummaging through archives, reading your old posts, some of robs and what i can find of Livey's and I am completly blown away by all of it! I guess I am missing a few pieces here and there, but by gawd, she sounds freaking nuts! I don't understand why everyone is defending her when she is clearly an extremly unstable person. Of course I am new to this bloggin thing, but from what I have read....it's a very messed up situation. I am just curious, why is everyone going after you? You seem like someone who would be willing to have a very intelligent conversation with anyone, if they had a problem with anything you said, I don't get it. Anyway, I really like how you write!
Posted by: MissesLutterman at July 06, 2006 03:35 PM (TY9nM)
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Stevie, I'm not at the location where I receive my personal e-mail today. I do have plenty else to worry about most days.
Just a note, I didn't say anything about bipolar in my response below. I don't know Livey personally so I have no idea what the true issues are--I'm certainly no psychologist. But the reason I know anything about BPD (borderline personality disorder) and suspect that may be part of the issue, is that someone quite close to me is a recovered BPD sufferer. It's rather common amongst people who suffered childhood abuse.
This is not about excuses--it's about understanding. You asked the question of me, I endeavored to answer it. I would encourage you to do that google search. A lot of things might begin to make sense, and you may find answers to some of your own questions.
Here is a starting point: http://www.bpdcentral.com/
As to your specific question, that will have to wait until later, unless someone else wants to take an honest crack at it. I have too much to do right now earning my keep. For a starting point, you might want to consider the tone and character of other people's eulogies and remembrances of Rob, and compare them to your writings over the last week or so.
Just a note, I didn't say anything about bipolar in my response below. I don't know Livey personally so I have no idea what the true issues are--I'm certainly no psychologist. But the reason I know anything about BPD (borderline personality disorder) and suspect that may be part of the issue, is that someone quite close to me is a recovered BPD sufferer. It's rather common amongst people who suffered childhood abuse.
This is not about excuses--it's about understanding. You asked the question of me, I endeavored to answer it. I would encourage you to do that google search. A lot of things might begin to make sense, and you may find answers to some of your own questions.
Here is a starting point: http://www.bpdcentral.com/
As to your specific question, that will have to wait until later, unless someone else wants to take an honest crack at it. I have too much to do right now earning my keep. For a starting point, you might want to consider the tone and character of other people's eulogies and remembrances of Rob, and compare them to your writings over the last week or so.
Posted by: Desert Cat at July 06, 2006 04:20 PM (B2X7i)
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Hey you gotdam pencil! :-) Man you and Livey really got a sure 'nuf feud going on haven't you? The shit you guys have written for the last month or so would make one hell of a book. I can see I don't need to encourage you to write what you feel on your blog. I'll bet Rob is sitting on a cloud somewhere looking down and laughing his ass off at the whole ruckus. What do you think? Crack that whip Stevie!
Posted by: Assrot at July 06, 2006 04:43 PM (ARCEn)
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I am someone who misses Rob and I found your site recently while reading Northwoods Woman. I am the person Livey called a "dumbass over at Rob's place." I've been called worse and I can't totally disagree with her. Thanks for your writing, you have an intelligent, unbiased way of presenting things that I enjoy reading.
Posted by: Renee at July 06, 2006 05:23 PM (UnNgJ)
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Standing and applauding....
Posted by: Ruth at July 06, 2006 05:38 PM (kqTXB)
Posted by: Dawn at July 06, 2006 05:41 PM (ZJsIz)
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Misses L., thank you for taking the time to read some. The more ya read, the worse it gets, though, I've gotta warn ya.
Desert Cat... thank you yet again for responding and I'm sorry if I in any way seemed to be impugning your integrity there. My annoyed tone at the end of this post is MUCH more directed to those PISSANTS in Livey's comments and everywhere else other than HERE. (Seems kinda childish and chickenshit to me that they all have soooo much to say, but don't have the cajones to say it to ME, ya know? At least YOU do seem to have 'em and USE 'em, which I (grudgingly) respect.
And, thanks for the link. I will check it out.
And, as for what I've writtwn... I am absolutely beyond certain that I've written nothing the slightest bit harsh, wrong or bad about Rob.
My posts about (or to) him have been straight from my heart. I don't think I'm even CAPABLE of saying bad things about the man. Never did before... why would I start now?
About Livey? Well, I guess maybe some of what I've written wasn't nice, exactly, but it was TRUE, which IS all that matters.
I've even tried like hell (til today) to keep my personal opinions/feelings out of it. No "editorializing" as I reported what happened in Georgia.
If what I said was bad, that's more a reflection on her behavior (and notice I didn't say "idiotic" behavior, even tho that IS the God's-honest truth).
If me telling the facts is bad... I don't know what to tell ya.
Not a whole lotta people think being brutally honest is a bad thing. Rob sure as hell didn't.
I, myself, think that going around lying, starting arguements, making a young boy cry and being an ass is what's bad and if you (in general, not YOU personally) have one iota of self-awareness or sense, you can see immediately that people are reacting badly to your behavior and you CHANGE it, not keep doing it and trying to slough it off to some childhood crap.
All I want to know from ANYONE is what, SPECIFICALLY, I've done TO HER that's so damned "bad".
Telling what she did?
Not spinning it so she looks good?
What?
Making it known that I'll land on her like a sqaud of Navy SEALs if she keeps up her "Rob and I were in loooove" shit and keeps hurting people is what seems to be necessary to me... and several others, I might add.
And, actually, I've been encouraged several times to just go on and SAY IT by members of Rob's family and his friends.
I prefer to wait and see if she forces that to be necessary.
If she wants to shit all over Rob's memory, she's gonna have to go through me to do it and I know of many people who are glad of that fact.
And, I really am sorry if that's too much for her to handle.
She needs to grow a pair and face re-al-i-ty.
For frickin' ONCE in her life.
And, if she IS ever gonna do that, now would be the time.
Because I will NOT let her get away with anything less when it comes to Rob, the man to whom I owe so very much and was able to repay so little.
The one thing I cannot, for the life of me, figure out is why it is I'm the only one willing to stand up for the man when gave so much of himself to so many over the years. And, even if I do have to be, why do so many nimrods feel it so necessary to give me shit for making it known that I will do just that? Un-friggin-believable. (Course, most of the shit-slingers are just the trolls from Rob's site. Hell, man, where's that fuckin' moron jb? He oughta be showing up any goddamned minute now.)
I've been being patient with alla this so far, but, I'm tellin' ya, if I'm gonna have to sit here and see all this stupid shit flying around, I will do something to "deserve" it, which I have yet to do.
Honestly, some goof is trying to sell frggin' tickets to some cat fight crap between her and I.
A whole ass load of other "brave souls" have alla the shit in the world to say everywhere but here, TO ME, after they've been "invited" to time after time.
I swear to God, this shit is like trying to have a rational conversation with a buncha lunatics. Deaf, dumb and blind LUNATICS.
The fact of the matter is that the ONLY thing I give a rat's ass about is Rob and his family and if that nutty bitch (yes, I said that... nutty bitch) keeps her fat yap shut (yeah, I know I just said that, too) about that man, she'll have not one damned thing to worry about from me.
I, too, have better things to do than sit here all damned day, waiting for the next name-calling, uninformed puswad to say something dumb, and no, I don't mean YOU, DC.
Hell man, you're the only one so far with the balls to come say anything to ME. Like I said, I respect you for that. (Even if I don't understand how you can sit there and watch her deny that Rob pretty much hated her when he left us for what she did, outing him in his comments like she did.)
And, for the record, I gave up on her ever "getting the point" when she steadfastly REFUSED to see how shitty a thing that was that she did to the man.
And, everybody else, THAT is how she told Mommie so easily that Rob had "been drinking" (not "slipped", DRINKING, period) again. She thinks it's a GOOD thing to keep repeating all over the freakin' world. (Fuckin' assnugget...)
(Yeah, I know I just said that too... bite me.)
Again... not directed to you personally, DC, just to "the world" at large.
If what the FOL's are waiting for me to do is give her "permission" or leeway to rob Rob of his dignity, I hope they all DO hold their breath waitin' for it so their head's will all explode and this shit can end.
I'll stop when I no longer have a reason to carry on.
And, I will NOT back down from this.
She reeeeeally doesn't want to test me on that, either.
Now...
Assrot, you made me laugh my ASS off, you goof. And, I can't really call this a "feud" because I'm basically staring down an unarmed person. (Yes, much like a "battle of wits" with the same...)
And, Renee... thank you too, for your kind words. I do have a question for ya... Cat was wondering if you're the Renee he and Rob worked with at Kerr-McGee?
And now, I'm gonna go make tacos for dinner.
Just remember, I'll only do as much as I have to, so it's alllll on her now. Balls in her court.
(But, the heavy artillery is in MINE.)
Desert Cat... thank you yet again for responding and I'm sorry if I in any way seemed to be impugning your integrity there. My annoyed tone at the end of this post is MUCH more directed to those PISSANTS in Livey's comments and everywhere else other than HERE. (Seems kinda childish and chickenshit to me that they all have soooo much to say, but don't have the cajones to say it to ME, ya know? At least YOU do seem to have 'em and USE 'em, which I (grudgingly) respect.
And, thanks for the link. I will check it out.
And, as for what I've writtwn... I am absolutely beyond certain that I've written nothing the slightest bit harsh, wrong or bad about Rob.
My posts about (or to) him have been straight from my heart. I don't think I'm even CAPABLE of saying bad things about the man. Never did before... why would I start now?
About Livey? Well, I guess maybe some of what I've written wasn't nice, exactly, but it was TRUE, which IS all that matters.
I've even tried like hell (til today) to keep my personal opinions/feelings out of it. No "editorializing" as I reported what happened in Georgia.
If what I said was bad, that's more a reflection on her behavior (and notice I didn't say "idiotic" behavior, even tho that IS the God's-honest truth).
If me telling the facts is bad... I don't know what to tell ya.
Not a whole lotta people think being brutally honest is a bad thing. Rob sure as hell didn't.
I, myself, think that going around lying, starting arguements, making a young boy cry and being an ass is what's bad and if you (in general, not YOU personally) have one iota of self-awareness or sense, you can see immediately that people are reacting badly to your behavior and you CHANGE it, not keep doing it and trying to slough it off to some childhood crap.
All I want to know from ANYONE is what, SPECIFICALLY, I've done TO HER that's so damned "bad".
Telling what she did?
Not spinning it so she looks good?
What?
Making it known that I'll land on her like a sqaud of Navy SEALs if she keeps up her "Rob and I were in loooove" shit and keeps hurting people is what seems to be necessary to me... and several others, I might add.
And, actually, I've been encouraged several times to just go on and SAY IT by members of Rob's family and his friends.
I prefer to wait and see if she forces that to be necessary.
If she wants to shit all over Rob's memory, she's gonna have to go through me to do it and I know of many people who are glad of that fact.
And, I really am sorry if that's too much for her to handle.
She needs to grow a pair and face re-al-i-ty.
For frickin' ONCE in her life.
And, if she IS ever gonna do that, now would be the time.
Because I will NOT let her get away with anything less when it comes to Rob, the man to whom I owe so very much and was able to repay so little.
The one thing I cannot, for the life of me, figure out is why it is I'm the only one willing to stand up for the man when gave so much of himself to so many over the years. And, even if I do have to be, why do so many nimrods feel it so necessary to give me shit for making it known that I will do just that? Un-friggin-believable. (Course, most of the shit-slingers are just the trolls from Rob's site. Hell, man, where's that fuckin' moron jb? He oughta be showing up any goddamned minute now.)
I've been being patient with alla this so far, but, I'm tellin' ya, if I'm gonna have to sit here and see all this stupid shit flying around, I will do something to "deserve" it, which I have yet to do.
Honestly, some goof is trying to sell frggin' tickets to some cat fight crap between her and I.
A whole ass load of other "brave souls" have alla the shit in the world to say everywhere but here, TO ME, after they've been "invited" to time after time.
I swear to God, this shit is like trying to have a rational conversation with a buncha lunatics. Deaf, dumb and blind LUNATICS.
The fact of the matter is that the ONLY thing I give a rat's ass about is Rob and his family and if that nutty bitch (yes, I said that... nutty bitch) keeps her fat yap shut (yeah, I know I just said that, too) about that man, she'll have not one damned thing to worry about from me.
I, too, have better things to do than sit here all damned day, waiting for the next name-calling, uninformed puswad to say something dumb, and no, I don't mean YOU, DC.
Hell man, you're the only one so far with the balls to come say anything to ME. Like I said, I respect you for that. (Even if I don't understand how you can sit there and watch her deny that Rob pretty much hated her when he left us for what she did, outing him in his comments like she did.)
And, for the record, I gave up on her ever "getting the point" when she steadfastly REFUSED to see how shitty a thing that was that she did to the man.
And, everybody else, THAT is how she told Mommie so easily that Rob had "been drinking" (not "slipped", DRINKING, period) again. She thinks it's a GOOD thing to keep repeating all over the freakin' world. (Fuckin' assnugget...)
(Yeah, I know I just said that too... bite me.)
Again... not directed to you personally, DC, just to "the world" at large.
If what the FOL's are waiting for me to do is give her "permission" or leeway to rob Rob of his dignity, I hope they all DO hold their breath waitin' for it so their head's will all explode and this shit can end.
I'll stop when I no longer have a reason to carry on.
And, I will NOT back down from this.
She reeeeeally doesn't want to test me on that, either.
Now...
Assrot, you made me laugh my ASS off, you goof. And, I can't really call this a "feud" because I'm basically staring down an unarmed person. (Yes, much like a "battle of wits" with the same...)
And, Renee... thank you too, for your kind words. I do have a question for ya... Cat was wondering if you're the Renee he and Rob worked with at Kerr-McGee?
And now, I'm gonna go make tacos for dinner.
Just remember, I'll only do as much as I have to, so it's alllll on her now. Balls in her court.
(But, the heavy artillery is in MINE.)
Posted by: Stevie at July 06, 2006 05:47 PM (IDDjb)
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Ya know, Dawn, it really wouldn't be that God-awful bad if I did.
I reiterate... it's all shit that's already been published and it's all still there (hidden archives notwithstanding) for anyone who wants to do what I did.
It's highly informative and paints the clearest picture ever painted in the history of mankind, and... it's all in their own words. Hers and Rob's.
It would just really be nice if I weren't the only one of Rob's thousands (hell, millions, now) of readers to take the time to find it out, ya know what I'm sayin'?
Then again... this is why Reader's Digest condenses books, huh?
*smile*
I reiterate... it's all shit that's already been published and it's all still there (hidden archives notwithstanding) for anyone who wants to do what I did.
It's highly informative and paints the clearest picture ever painted in the history of mankind, and... it's all in their own words. Hers and Rob's.
It would just really be nice if I weren't the only one of Rob's thousands (hell, millions, now) of readers to take the time to find it out, ya know what I'm sayin'?
Then again... this is why Reader's Digest condenses books, huh?
*smile*
Posted by: Stevie at July 06, 2006 05:54 PM (IDDjb)
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I believe Renee is the one who first posted that Rob had died and that her husband works at KM. A lot of people jumped all over her but I searched for her in Rob's archives and found that it was the same person commenting for YEARS there.
And as far as Yabu's idea: you gotta know my money's on you ;-)
And as far as Yabu's idea: you gotta know my money's on you ;-)
Posted by: Chablis at July 06, 2006 05:57 PM (tMoUV)
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lol... well thank you.
But, jeezus, man... that's "stirring up shit", not anything I've done.
And, I don't know that guy, haven't read him before today, so I'm not sure what to think or exactly how to take that. For now, I'm going with "twisted humor", my favorite kind.
(And, I just got an hour pass on having to make dinner. The guy's all took off to go look at pickups to get an idea of what kind of of pickup Jr. wants to buy soon...)
But, jeezus, man... that's "stirring up shit", not anything I've done.
And, I don't know that guy, haven't read him before today, so I'm not sure what to think or exactly how to take that. For now, I'm going with "twisted humor", my favorite kind.
(And, I just got an hour pass on having to make dinner. The guy's all took off to go look at pickups to get an idea of what kind of of pickup Jr. wants to buy soon...)
Posted by: Stevie at July 06, 2006 06:05 PM (IDDjb)
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Stevie, I wish you would just go ahead and post that email. I think people are misquoting you or taking things out of context. I finished reading most of Livey's posts and she is a certified nut. First, No way did Rob love her. period. That's simple to prove...if he had, it would be evident in his writings. He loved his second wife, that was obvious. He grew to hate Livey, that was obvious.
It's right there, in his own words.
Second, no sane woman goes to a man's home and cleans his house, naked, and tells him "now we can F___." Third, while at catfish's house, she even overheard them talking about her, wanting her to quieten down and leave. She was going around telling everyone to stick their fingers up her azz because she couldn't go to the bathroom. She had just met these people, and she was a guest in their home. That's just disgusting. Fourth, she wrote about all the things I just listed. I read them in her blog, in her words. She sees nothing wrong or abnormal in her actions. That's proof positive.
It's right there, in his own words.
Second, no sane woman goes to a man's home and cleans his house, naked, and tells him "now we can F___." Third, while at catfish's house, she even overheard them talking about her, wanting her to quieten down and leave. She was going around telling everyone to stick their fingers up her azz because she couldn't go to the bathroom. She had just met these people, and she was a guest in their home. That's just disgusting. Fourth, she wrote about all the things I just listed. I read them in her blog, in her words. She sees nothing wrong or abnormal in her actions. That's proof positive.
Posted by: Terry at July 06, 2006 06:14 PM (Ffvoi)
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Oh hell yes Chablis....I am putting the RENT on STEVIE....
Posted by: Ruth at July 06, 2006 06:14 PM (kqTXB)
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Shit! Assrot beat me in calling you a "pencil". Ok, ok, how about this? You are a mechanical pencil out of lead?
Never mind, I'm frik'n exhausted and don't even make sense to myself.
Never mind, I'm frik'n exhausted and don't even make sense to myself.
Posted by: Maeve at July 06, 2006 06:20 PM (b/7xM)
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Thhhhhhhank you, Terry!!
And, that is EXACTLY the kinda shit I copied and pasted outta her (self-defeating) archives.
In her own words, I say again...
(See? I don't need to do a THING to this woman. All I'm prepared to do is shove her own words straight down her throat (and out her ASSHOLE) if she doesn't cut the shit.)
And, that is EXACTLY the kinda shit I copied and pasted outta her (self-defeating) archives.
In her own words, I say again...
(See? I don't need to do a THING to this woman. All I'm prepared to do is shove her own words straight down her throat (and out her ASSHOLE) if she doesn't cut the shit.)
Posted by: Stevie at July 06, 2006 06:20 PM (IDDjb)
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Sadly enough, one cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Simply put, no matter what you objectively report, and what you post of Livey's or Rob's own words won't change anything.
The past is just that, the past. No sense dwelling or living in it, regardless of your good intentions.
Rob himself once said (and it is a common ideal), "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
"That's all I have to say about that." - Forrest Gump
Simply put, no matter what you objectively report, and what you post of Livey's or Rob's own words won't change anything.
The past is just that, the past. No sense dwelling or living in it, regardless of your good intentions.
Rob himself once said (and it is a common ideal), "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
"That's all I have to say about that." - Forrest Gump
Posted by: surfie at July 06, 2006 06:21 PM (Iuf+m)
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If that's true (and I believe it is) then Livey, "Miss-Has-the-BEST-of-Intentions (no matter how badly I act"), is on a teflon turnpike straight there, is she not?
MY intentions are clear.
As long as I'm alive, I will not let her shit on him anymore and get away with it.
Good or bad, I don't give a damn, 'cause God knows they've been called both lately.
MY intentions are clear.
As long as I'm alive, I will not let her shit on him anymore and get away with it.
Good or bad, I don't give a damn, 'cause God knows they've been called both lately.
Posted by: Stevie at July 06, 2006 06:24 PM (IDDjb)
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Whoa. Lot going on while I was at work. Yabu I think is good man but really twisted. I'm just getting to know him myself. My money is on you too though. Hell, I'm giving 10-1 odds to any takers...
Posted by: Libby at July 06, 2006 06:49 PM (DGO1F)
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I agree with everyone else, Stevie, I think you should post the email so all the FOL's (that's what you call them right?) Can see what they have been defending.
If your not going to post it can you send it to me? I would be really interested in filling in the gaps so I can see the whole story...
If your not going to post it can you send it to me? I would be really interested in filling in the gaps so I can see the whole story...
Posted by: Misseslutterman at July 06, 2006 07:18 PM (TY9nM)
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I would also like to see the whole thing!!! I read it as it was happening but it all is a bit foggy now... I have tried going through the archives at Rob's but can't find the post where he went off when she did it....
So if you decide to start emailing that bad boy out, add me to the list!
Curious though that she has just totally shut up on her site.. Cept for that last weird post about Elvis...
So if you decide to start emailing that bad boy out, add me to the list!
Curious though that she has just totally shut up on her site.. Cept for that last weird post about Elvis...
Posted by: ElizabethOfTheSouth at July 06, 2006 07:37 PM (YnIJr)
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Stevie, baby, you asked "The one thing I cannot, for the life of me, figure out is why it is I'm the only one willing to stand up for the man when gave so much of himself to so many over the years." I'll tell you why you (and maybe one other dope) are the only ones going on and on about this - everybody else seems to realize Rob is dead, and he's going to stay that way. His best friend Catfish is moving on, and everybody else seems to moving on as well. That's how life works - we lose people we love, but life still goes on for the rest of us. You've self appointed yourself as the protector of a memory, and I just don't think you need to worry about that. We'll all have whatever memory of Rob we have, and at this point, nothing anyone says or does will change that memory. Just for the record, I'm not a FOL, I think you're both nuts. and love this drama (Rob had a flair for the dramatic as well, he'd be loving this if he was still around).
Posted by: Dennis at July 06, 2006 07:50 PM (UBcvM)
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I've spent the last 24 hours wondering where the hell I'm supposed to find the psychic energy necessary to dig through your archives and compose a thesis titled "The Sins of Steve With Footnotes By Desert Cat", knowing that you have an eight paragraph reply already prepared in your head for every bullet point I might make. But then it occured to me that, given your book-length missives of pre-emptive responses you've already posted, this question feels more like an attempt to draw me into your obsessive maelstrom. And I have no patience for that.
Is there one solitary, isolated event I can point to and say, "there, see? That's what Stevie did!" Probably not, though I could pull a dozen examples if I tried. What Stevie has done to incur the wrath of Desert Cat is to threaten the physical, emotional and mental well being of someone he has come to give a damn about. Repeatedly and ongoingly, with both overt threats and implied, veiled threats.
One of my readers notes that I seem to have a "momma cat" side to my personality. Which is disconcerting, given that I am male. But nonetheless, you don't mess with a momma cat's kittens without getting a face full of claws. Doesn't matter if one of them is sick and walks with a limp. All the more so, in fact.
No, I am not going to dig through your archives and compile a list of times and manners you've breathed your threats. I'm not going to interview the attendees at Rob's funeral to discover what you did and when. I'm not going to page through the phone book looking to call your neighbors to see if I can dig up some additional dirt on you. Those are the acts of a crazy obsessed person. But I am going to download your archives and save them to a couple of CD's. They might make rich fodder for a prosecuting attorney someday.
No one appointed you to the High Office of the Keeper of the Memory and Dignity of Rob Smith but you yourself. You repeatedly state that it is about Rob, but you have made it all about Stevie and her bizarro way of grieving his loss. That in itself is something I find quite distasteful. It never was your job to make Livey stop doing anything. What you're doing is the "wrong way" anyway, if you really gave a damn. But it's not your job to control anyone's behavior except your own, and your children if you have any. I further find it particularly galling when the actions of *any*one force a blogger to give up blogging. Especially when it has served them as a vital channel in their journey toward regaining their own healthy mental and emotional outlook. You of all people should understand that, if you understand why Rob blogged.
There *is* one thing in particular that jumped out at me. I got the very distinct impression that Rob's family is not at all comfortable thinking or talking about his death as a possible suicide. His note was pulled from the front page right away. And numerous people have stated something along the lines of "quit speculating on how he died and honor the man!" Yet you have just posted that you went snooping amongst his neighbors until you found one that told you he died of an overdose? I wonder how that makes his family feel. Oh I know I know, you've probably talked to someone who said "go ahead do what you want." How sincerely, we may never know.
You need to take two steps back, one deep breath, and go grieve Rob's death in a more healthy way. You're angry at Livey for what you perceive she has done. Fine. But your perceptions are not the world. And no one gave you carte blanche to impose them on the world. I'll tell you something: I'm a little tired of your toying with this Sword of Damocles. Post your missive! Get your book length manuscript, "The Sins of Livey Against Rob And How She is Responsible for His Suicide, With Footnotes By Stevie His Obsessed Worshipper", out there for all to see. Let's see your stuff! Get it out there where it can be used to win converts to your religion. If it's so compelling, why hide "The TRUTH"?
Pony up!
"pee ess" (as you say), don't expect me to come back here hourly looking for your latest manuscript in response. I am rapidly tiring of this interchange and I spent far more time this morning than I intended to. Good day!
Is there one solitary, isolated event I can point to and say, "there, see? That's what Stevie did!" Probably not, though I could pull a dozen examples if I tried. What Stevie has done to incur the wrath of Desert Cat is to threaten the physical, emotional and mental well being of someone he has come to give a damn about. Repeatedly and ongoingly, with both overt threats and implied, veiled threats.
One of my readers notes that I seem to have a "momma cat" side to my personality. Which is disconcerting, given that I am male. But nonetheless, you don't mess with a momma cat's kittens without getting a face full of claws. Doesn't matter if one of them is sick and walks with a limp. All the more so, in fact.
No, I am not going to dig through your archives and compile a list of times and manners you've breathed your threats. I'm not going to interview the attendees at Rob's funeral to discover what you did and when. I'm not going to page through the phone book looking to call your neighbors to see if I can dig up some additional dirt on you. Those are the acts of a crazy obsessed person. But I am going to download your archives and save them to a couple of CD's. They might make rich fodder for a prosecuting attorney someday.
No one appointed you to the High Office of the Keeper of the Memory and Dignity of Rob Smith but you yourself. You repeatedly state that it is about Rob, but you have made it all about Stevie and her bizarro way of grieving his loss. That in itself is something I find quite distasteful. It never was your job to make Livey stop doing anything. What you're doing is the "wrong way" anyway, if you really gave a damn. But it's not your job to control anyone's behavior except your own, and your children if you have any. I further find it particularly galling when the actions of *any*one force a blogger to give up blogging. Especially when it has served them as a vital channel in their journey toward regaining their own healthy mental and emotional outlook. You of all people should understand that, if you understand why Rob blogged.
There *is* one thing in particular that jumped out at me. I got the very distinct impression that Rob's family is not at all comfortable thinking or talking about his death as a possible suicide. His note was pulled from the front page right away. And numerous people have stated something along the lines of "quit speculating on how he died and honor the man!" Yet you have just posted that you went snooping amongst his neighbors until you found one that told you he died of an overdose? I wonder how that makes his family feel. Oh I know I know, you've probably talked to someone who said "go ahead do what you want." How sincerely, we may never know.
You need to take two steps back, one deep breath, and go grieve Rob's death in a more healthy way. You're angry at Livey for what you perceive she has done. Fine. But your perceptions are not the world. And no one gave you carte blanche to impose them on the world. I'll tell you something: I'm a little tired of your toying with this Sword of Damocles. Post your missive! Get your book length manuscript, "The Sins of Livey Against Rob And How She is Responsible for His Suicide, With Footnotes By Stevie His Obsessed Worshipper", out there for all to see. Let's see your stuff! Get it out there where it can be used to win converts to your religion. If it's so compelling, why hide "The TRUTH"?
Pony up!
"pee ess" (as you say), don't expect me to come back here hourly looking for your latest manuscript in response. I am rapidly tiring of this interchange and I spent far more time this morning than I intended to. Good day!
Posted by: Desert Cat at July 07, 2006 10:01 AM (xdX36)
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