Another volley...

Well, it's slowing down, but it's not "done" yet, apparently.
And, as long as she keeps trying to defend her brainless, cruel and defenseless actions, I'm gonna keep calling her ass on it.

I just cannot believe how wrong-headed some people can be.

And, yeah, I know she can't un-do what she did, but, for the love of God, I want her to understand just how shitty of a thing she did and make her realize that not only is what she did not at ALL helpful, but doing that to the wrong person could blow up in her face.
And, maybe that what she wants... to have it blow up in her face so she can play "poor little misunderstood me" some more, but if she causes someone to do more damage to themselves or even OFF themselves as a result of her thoughtless behavior, well... what then?

I suppose she'll just blame it on the other person.
Seeing as to how she's totally unable, at this point, to accept the responsibility enough to admit the way she handled this was wrong, I have to try again.

So... here we go AGAIN...
(And, I don't know, honestly, if I'm doing this because some part of me doesn't want to give up on Livey quite yet or because, no matter WHAT else, I just don't want her to fuck with, hurt or do any further damage to Rob. Or both. Rob IS the first priority. I know that much...)

Anyway...

Stevie, as I said, I'm done with this shit.

Well, it doesn't look like it. And, even if you DO stop responding, it's not over until you SEE how bad what you did REALLY was. I am POSITIVE you don't see that yet, because you keep defending it. And, any "I'm sorry"s that are followed by a "but" ain't worth a damn.
When a person is sorry, they're sorry, period. Not "but".
All "but" is is the segway to the shitty excuse for whatever is being hollowly apologized for.
I don't even care about any apologies. Mostly because I'm pretty damned sure Rob doesn't either and it won't change anything, anyway.
And, that's what needs to happen... a CHANGE.
A change in your behavior in the future when it comes to this kinda crap with anybody, let alone Rob.
And, you said yourself that you'll always love Rob for who he could be, not who he is now and that denotes wanting to see changes in a person, SO, if it's good enough for you to request Rob change, you oughta be willing to do so yourself.

Your incorrect assumptions are only adding fuel to the fire and I will not indulge in that shit.

Well, Dear, I don't happen to believe my "assumptions" are incorrect. All I've done is read you since months before you went to Georgia and read Rob for YEARS and I can add 2 and 2 and come up with you're pissed because things didn't work out like you'd hoped they would.
That was strike one for Rob.
His trusting you after that was strike two.
His turning down your persistant efforts to be in his life one way or the other was strike three and that's when you got severely pissed and shot your mouth off.

You just really need to understand that what you did was so wrong that it's damned near criminal. Maybe it even IS. And, if it's not in some context, it oughta be.
And, in fact, treason is illegal, so just be glad Rob's not a country.

From the Oxford American Dictionary...

treason n. treachery toward one's country or it's ruler.
treachery n. betrayal of a person or cause, an act of disloyalty.

So, there ya are.
You did betray Rob. What you did was an act of disloyalty.
And, if ever there was a ruler of a fiefdom (fief n, second definition, "a person's sphere of operation or control"), that is Rob at Gut Rumbles.

And yes indulge was the word I intended.

Well, the way you used it in that first sentence was wrong.
If you meant that that was more than you were willing to discuss, the correct word IS divulge.
If you meant that Rob's behavior in not returning your affection is too weird, kinky or whatever for you to INDULGE in, you should have ended the sentence with the word "in".
I'm just saying...
Sounded incomplete or wrong the way you worded it.
And, that does NOT make understanding you any easier.
For ANYBODY.

His enablers are like blood sucking leeches trying to get more and more information.

Here we go again with this "enablers" shit.
Do you and Bane honestly think that those of us calling "FOUL!!!" on what you did are trying to"enable" Rob to drink? Or condoning it? Or saying that's is just peachy keen wonderful that he slipped?

That is so completely stupid as to be a WILLFUL misunderstanding of the issue.

We're not saying "Aw, Rob. It's okay. You go drink if you want to." At least, I'm not.
And, I don't believe anybody else is, either.
Our collective response to Rob seems to be, "Aw, damn man. Sorry ya tripped there, Buddy. Let us help you regain your feet so you can keep walking on and away from it."
BUT... we've all been so totally blown away by what YOU did, that that's what the prevalent response has been about.
Rob's fine.
Rob's gonna BE fine.
He's one HELL of a lot stronger than you give him credit for.
He doesn't need a nursemaid to wipe his ass for him or tell him every step to take. He knows what to do AND how he has to do it.
Most he might need is a steadying arm to grab onto once in a while and who doesn't need THAT?
You, on the other hand, seem to desperately need help in knowing what "limits" are for and how not to obliterate them, especially out of what LOOKS LIKE a warped sense of entitlement or, worse, revenge.
And, if that's not why ya did it, you need to know that it LOOKS LIKE that's why ya did it.
The LAST thing it looks like is that you were trying to HELP Rob because what you did was the LAST thing an intelligent, caring person would do to help someone in that particular situation.
So, at best, your timing sucks or else your execution of ideas does.
"Right idea, wrong execution" is the phrase, but in this case the IDEA was wrong, too.
Kicking a man in the balls who has made a mistake, especially a mistake that mostly only hurts himself, is just so wrong. So, so wrong.
And, yes, I know about the "reverse psychology" shit of handing a rope or a gun to a person threatening suicide to shut 'em up, shock them out of the behavior, but, Rob is NOT the kind of person that shit works on, now is he?
How you didn't already know that is beyond me.

And, who was it begging you, or holding the gun to your head, when you started disseminating Rob's personal info in the first place?
You say that his "enablers are like blood sucking leeches trying to get more and more information".
Well, who the hell asked you to say whatcha did in the first place?
And, don't bother saying "Rob did" again.
What he did, in your own words, was "dare" you to, not REQUEST you to. There is a VAST difference there.
Hope I'm not "assuming" too much, assuming you DO know the difference (now that it's been pointed out straight to you that there IS one).
And, maybe it's just me, but I don't think many people would come to a person who did what you did for "more (mis)information".
That's just dumb.
PLUS, it was YOU who INVITED me to email you to discuss this further, an invitation I turned down so as not to give you another opportunity to tell someone things Rob hasn't told that person himself.
What I'd like to know is, what is the REAL situation that you've twisted into "his enablers are like bloodsucking leeches trying to get more and more information."
That'd be interesting to get to the bottom of.
Maybe.

Yes I'm sorry I had to do what I did.

No, you're not "sorry" because you're still inisiting you HAD to do it.
No, you did NOT "have to" do that.
If you were truly concerned about Rob, you had plenty of alternatives to "help" him, not the least of which would have been to call Cat, or someone else who lives nearby that Rob likes (if there is anyone besides Cat...) who could have gone to his house and physically checked on him to see how he was and offer REAL help.
Outing him in his comments, spilling your guts about what he told you IN CONFIDENCE, was just a low-class, backstabbing, "typical (pissed off) woman"-ly thing to do.
Until you can accept your own truth about what you did and why, you really need to quit spouting insincere apologies because it's just making you look worse every time you do it.
Really.

I hope you never find yourself in a position to understand.

Fear not. I am absolutely certain I will never be in a position where I feel it necessary to try to hurt (or "help", as you so blindly insist you were doing) someone, to totally destroy their trust in me, by doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of helping them when they need it most.

Please, let it go. For his sake.

Sorry, I can't do that.
For that EXACT reason.
Him.

I swear to God, Livey, if you do something, anything, else to Rob that causes him to further hurt himself or end it all "his own way", you WILL get back the damage you caused... in spades.
Same goes for anybody who pushes this man over the edge.

And, I won't be the only one... willing it on you, wishing it on you, seeing justice in it happening to you and cheering Karma on for giving it back to you and then some.
And, for some of his more rabid "groupies", maybe even lending a hand in it.
And, for the record, I'm not talkin' about physical high school school yard horseshit.
I'm talking about karmic retribution to the nth degree.

So, please... take your own advice.

Leave him ALONE.
For his sake.

P.S. A bit of gratuitous advice it'd behoove you never to forget...

If anybody ever asks you to be part of an intervention, either learn how to do it correctly, or decline.

For whomever's sake.

Posted by: Stevie at 03:56 PM

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